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Title: Tired
Post by: Harold on May 22, 2021, 12:29:35 PM
I am so sick of chew. The money, the cancer, the 'do i have enough until morning?'. Hiding it from my family because I am ashamed, mouth all chewed to hell and yellow teeth. I really just want to be done with it. I am not 100% sure where to even start, i almost feel sick just talking about it.

My name is Harold.
I been dipping for at least 37 years, maybe longer.
Title: Re: Tired
Post by: macattack on May 22, 2021, 01:11:48 PM
I am so sick of chew. The money, the cancer, the 'do i have enough until morning?'. Hiding it from my family because I am ashamed, mouth all chewed to hell and yellow teeth. I really just want to be done with it. I am not 100% sure where to even start, i almost feel sick just talking about it.

My name is Harold.
I been dipping for at least 37 years, maybe longer.

Throw it all away, drain it down the toilet.
Get into august and post your promise to quit.

https://ktcforum.org/index.php?topic=17044.0

Get digits from fellow quitters. KTC provides you with all the tools to be quit, you just have to follow the system and start now. There’s no better time.
Title: Re: Tired
Post by: CTF on May 22, 2021, 01:57:33 PM
I am so sick of chew. The money, the cancer, the 'do i have enough until morning?'. Hiding it from my family because I am ashamed, mouth all chewed to hell and yellow teeth. I really just want to be done with it. I am not 100% sure where to even start, i almost feel sick just talking about it.

My name is Harold.
I been dipping for at least 37 years, maybe longer.

Throw it all away, drain it down the toilet.
Get into august and post your promise to quit.

https://ktcforum.org/index.php?topic=17044.0

Get digits from fellow quitters. KTC provides you with all the tools to be quit, you just have to follow the system and start now. There’s no better time.

@Harold (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=20088)
Great Intro. As someone who is coming up a year away from the stuff I can tell you all the mouth chewed up, hiding it from the family (trust me they know), cancer concerns yellow teeth stuff makes a ton of sense and is a legitimate number of reasons for quitting. Something I haven't thought about in a year is the do I have enough until the morning. God finally saying I am done with this crap and walking away from it, for real, is such a freedom. There is so much upside to quitting and once you get past the physical addiction handling your addiction becomes easier. Stay strong, put in the work and get it done. Make this investment in you. Post your daily promise to the group and be accountable as you step forward away from bullshit.

https://ktcforum.org/index.php?topic=17044.0
Title: Re: Tired
Post by: Athan on May 22, 2021, 02:01:40 PM
I am so sick of chew. The money, the cancer, the 'do i have enough until morning?'. Hiding it from my family because I am ashamed, mouth all chewed to hell and yellow teeth. I really just want to be done with it. I am not 100% sure where to even start, i almost feel sick just talking about it.

My name is Harold.
I been dipping for at least 37 years, maybe longer.

Throw it all away, drain it down the toilet.
Get into august and post your promise to quit.

https://ktcforum.org/index.php?topic=17044.0

Get digits from fellow quitters. KTC provides you with all the tools to be quit, you just have to follow the system and start now. There’s no better time.

@Harold (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=20088)
Great Intro. As someone who is coming up a year away from the stuff I can tell you all the mouth chewed up, hiding it from the family (trust me they know), cancer concerns yellow teeth stuff makes a ton of sense and is a legitimate number of reasons for quitting. Something I haven't thought about in a year is the do I have enough until the morning. God finally saying I am done with this crap and walking away from it, for real, is such a freedom. There is so much upside to quitting and once you get past the physical addiction handling your addiction becomes easier. Stay strong, put in the work and get it done. Make this investment in you. Post your daily promise to the group and be accountable as you step forward away from bullshit.

https://ktcforum.org/index.php?topic=17044.0
Hello Harold (Do you have a purple crayon?)
Our stories are all different. Our stories are all the same.
Good job starting an intro. I do you that you're not a post n ghost. We get a lot of those.
Some start an intro and you never hear from them again. If you've been doing this for 37 years I'm thinking you've tried before. I'm thinkin you've failed before or your wouldn't be here.
If you're tired of the slavery, drink the kood-aid and try freedom the KTC way. I was a slave for 37 years too. I'm free today.
Glad you're here.
Quitting with you today.
Title: Re: Tired
Post by: CTF on May 23, 2021, 03:02:20 PM
I am so sick of chew. The money, the cancer, the 'do i have enough until morning?'. Hiding it from my family because I am ashamed, mouth all chewed to hell and yellow teeth. I really just want to be done with it. I am not 100% sure where to even start, i almost feel sick just talking about it.

My name is Harold.
I been dipping for at least 37 years, maybe longer.

Throw it all away, drain it down the toilet.
Get into august and post your promise to quit.

https://ktcforum.org/index.php?topic=17044.0

Get digits from fellow quitters. KTC provides you with all the tools to be quit, you just have to follow the system and start now. There’s no better time.

@Harold (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=20088)
Great Intro. As someone who is coming up a year away from the stuff I can tell you all the mouth chewed up, hiding it from the family (trust me they know), cancer concerns yellow teeth stuff makes a ton of sense and is a legitimate number of reasons for quitting. Something I haven't thought about in a year is the do I have enough until the morning. God finally saying I am done with this crap and walking away from it, for real, is such a freedom. There is so much upside to quitting and once you get past the physical addiction handling your addiction becomes easier. Stay strong, put in the work and get it done. Make this investment in you. Post your daily promise to the group and be accountable as you step forward away from bullshit.

https://ktcforum.org/index.php?topic=17044.0
Hello Harold (Do you have a purple crayon?)
Our stories are all different. Our stories are all the same.
Good job starting an intro. I do you that you're not a post n ghost. We get a lot of those.
Some start an intro and you never hear from them again. If you've been doing this for 37 years I'm thinking you've tried before. I'm thinkin you've failed before or your wouldn't be here.
If you're tired of the slavery, drink the kood-aid and try freedom the KTC way. I was a slave for 37 years too. I'm free today.
Glad you're here.
Quitting with you today.

@Harold (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=20088)
I am proud of you that you posted your promise today. Rinse and repeat tomorrow.

I am sure you have been down this path before, I mean we all tried to quit in the past right? Here is what's going to be different this time:

1) Keep posting and reach out to people, this site has a ton of people who are here to help.

2) If you are really honest with yourself you know exactly why each past quit didn't stick. Make this one different. Learn from your mistakes and beat this bullshit addiction one day at a time. That's all it takes one day at a time.

3) I'd you feel the urge to cave drink some water, do 5 pushups, take a walk, chew some gum, whatever it takes to wake up tomorrow and post your promise you are nicotine free. My 1st week I tried to go to bed early and sleep as much as possible because if I was unconscious I didn't want to chew. You will know what works for you just keep leaning forward.

4) Things are going to get weird. You will most likely be a dick to people around you while you continue this journey, at least for the next 1-21 days. Let them know what you are doing and apologize in advance. You are going to crave so plan for it and figure out how to keep saying no. You might have dip dreams and it will piss you off. They are weird and just accept them as your brain letting go of the chemicals and habits 37 years of chew has done to you.

5) Good News: You don't have to worry about if you have enough to get through tomorrow. You won't have shitty ass spit cans laying around. In time food will taste better, your sense of smell improves, your mouth will heal and your teeth will whiten.  A month after I quit I went and bought the best whitening tooth paste I could find and I continue to use it today. For me it is a twice/three times daily reminder why I won't chew again.

If you need help or have questions shoot me a private message (PM) and we can exchange numbers if you need or you can send a note to any vet on this site asking for help/support. No need to reinvent the wheel. All of our journeys are unique but the outcome is the same.

Cheers,

CTF 
Title: Re: Tired
Post by: Harold on June 02, 2021, 10:25:55 PM
I am so sick of chew. The money, the cancer, the 'do i have enough until morning?'. Hiding it from my family because I am ashamed, mouth all chewed to hell and yellow teeth. I really just want to be done with it. I am not 100% sure where to even start, i almost feel sick just talking about it.

My name is Harold.
I been dipping for at least 37 years, maybe longer.

Closing in on a couple weeks. I don't really know how to describe it, but definitely not felt like myself. I am so irritable and it's very difficult to focus for long periods. My 'method' seems to be to be triggered (by everything), let the impulse happen and then quickly move on from it. Repeat. I've noticed that I'll go an hour or so and never think about a dip, that's a nice feeling.
Title: Re: Tired
Post by: macattack on June 02, 2021, 11:27:29 PM
I am so sick of chew. The money, the cancer, the 'do i have enough until morning?'. Hiding it from my family because I am ashamed, mouth all chewed to hell and yellow teeth. I really just want to be done with it. I am not 100% sure where to even start, i almost feel sick just talking about it.

My name is Harold.
I been dipping for at least 37 years, maybe longer.

Closing in on a couple weeks. I don't really know how to describe it, but definitely not felt like myself. I am so irritable and it's very difficult to focus for long periods. My 'method' seems to be to be triggered (by everything), let the impulse happen and then quickly move on from it. Repeat. I've noticed that I'll go an hour or so and never think about a dip, that's a nice feeling.

it gets better. It took me until the 150s to really get into cruise control. Even through the early 100s I was having bouts irritability.  Take things ODAAT and now that their is the light of the end of the tunnel.

Title: Re: Tired
Post by: nick-Otine Free on June 03, 2021, 07:58:59 AM
I am so sick of chew. The money, the cancer, the 'do i have enough until morning?'. Hiding it from my family because I am ashamed, mouth all chewed to hell and yellow teeth. I really just want to be done with it. I am not 100% sure where to even start, i almost feel sick just talking about it.

My name is Harold.
I been dipping for at least 37 years, maybe longer.

Closing in on a couple weeks. I don't really know how to describe it, but definitely not felt like myself. I am so irritable and it's very difficult to focus for long periods. My 'method' seems to be to be triggered (by everything), let the impulse happen and then quickly move on from it. Repeat. I've noticed that I'll go an hour or so and never think about a dip, that's a nice feeling.

it gets better. It took me until the 150s to really get into cruise control. Even through the early 100s I was having bouts irritability.  Take things ODAAT and now that their is the light of the end of the tunnel.
Keep doing what your doing Harold! your body is rewiring so the more you fight it the more it will realize nicotine is not your life any more. Be sure to sling your rage here or on your group page if you need to. we have all been there pissed off and feeling like were backed into a corner. the more you Stack the wins the more you forget about how bad the suck is. The Fog kicked my ass, and as mac just said still kicks my Ass from time to time but they are fewer and far inbetween. Keep on roll get digits you can hold others accountable and we can do the same back at you. Brotherhood + Accountability= Success.
Title: Re: Tired
Post by: stillbrewing on June 03, 2021, 02:21:14 PM
I am so sick of chew. The money, the cancer, the 'do i have enough until morning?'. Hiding it from my family because I am ashamed, mouth all chewed to hell and yellow teeth. I really just want to be done with it. I am not 100% sure where to even start, i almost feel sick just talking about it.

My name is Harold.
I been dipping for at least 37 years, maybe longer.

Closing in on a couple weeks. I don't really know how to describe it, but definitely not felt like myself. I am so irritable and it's very difficult to focus for long periods. My 'method' seems to be to be triggered (by everything), let the impulse happen and then quickly move on from it. Repeat. I've noticed that I'll go an hour or so and never think about a dip, that's a nice feeling.

it gets better. It took me until the 150s to really get into cruise control. Even through the early 100s I was having bouts irritability.  Take things ODAAT and now that their is the light of the end of the tunnel.
Keep doing what your doing Harold! your body is rewiring so the more you fight it the more it will realize nicotine is not your life any more. Be sure to sling your rage here or on your group page if you need to. we have all been there pissed off and feeling like were backed into a corner. the more you Stack the wins the more you forget about how bad the suck is. The Fog kicked my ass, and as mac just said still kicks my Ass from time to time but they are fewer and far inbetween. Keep on roll get digits you can hold others accountable and we can do the same back at you. Brotherhood + Accountability= Success.
^^^What he said!^^^
Title: Re: Tired
Post by: FLLipOut on June 03, 2021, 10:39:19 PM
I am so sick of chew. The money, the cancer, the 'do i have enough until morning?'. Hiding it from my family because I am ashamed, mouth all chewed to hell and yellow teeth. I really just want to be done with it. I am not 100% sure where to even start, i almost feel sick just talking about it.

My name is Harold.
I been dipping for at least 37 years, maybe longer.

Closing in on a couple weeks. I don't really know how to describe it, but definitely not felt like myself. I am so irritable and it's very difficult to focus for long periods. My 'method' seems to be to be triggered (by everything), let the impulse happen and then quickly move on from it. Repeat. I've noticed that I'll go an hour or so and never think about a dip, that's a nice feeling.

it gets better. It took me until the 150s to really get into cruise control. Even through the early 100s I was having bouts irritability.  Take things ODAAT and now that their is the light of the end of the tunnel.
Keep doing what your doing Harold! your body is rewiring so the more you fight it the more it will realize nicotine is not your life any more. Be sure to sling your rage here or on your group page if you need to. we have all been there pissed off and feeling like were backed into a corner. the more you Stack the wins the more you forget about how bad the suck is. The Fog kicked my ass, and as mac just said still kicks my Ass from time to time but they are fewer and far inbetween. Keep on roll get digits you can hold others accountable and we can do the same back at you. Brotherhood + Accountability= Success.
^^^What he said!^^^
Harold, you are crushing it, keep it up! 

All I can say is take it one day at a time.  ODAAT.  It is the mindset that will get you through the tough days and will keep you honest on those easier days when you think, meh, you've kicked this thing.  I've been an addict for as long as you.  Hard to imagine yourself as someone who doesn't use tobacco, right?  You'll get there.  Trust me.  Trust us.  Trust the KTC formula.

In the meantime, read everything you can about this addiction and the addiction process - this site has so many great resources.  Look up Wildirish' introduction, he has archived amazing things.

If you need further accountability, pm me.
Title: Re: Tired
Post by: Harold on June 23, 2021, 11:51:42 PM
I am so sick of chew. The money, the cancer, the 'do i have enough until morning?'. Hiding it from my family because I am ashamed, mouth all chewed to hell and yellow teeth. I really just want to be done with it. I am not 100% sure where to even start, i almost feel sick just talking about it.

My name is Harold.
I been dipping for at least 37 years, maybe longer.

Closing in on a couple weeks. I don't really know how to describe it, but definitely not felt like myself. I am so irritable and it's very difficult to focus for long periods. My 'method' seems to be to be triggered (by everything), let the impulse happen and then quickly move on from it. Repeat. I've noticed that I'll go an hour or so and never think about a dip, that's a nice feeling.

Been a month now and things are up and down. In some ways, it's easier than I thought to just quit, but I had no idea how hard staying quit was going to be. I must be honest, this site has been a huge disappointment. My group is 5 or 6 guys, they do not engage at all, they post late in the evenings and offer no support what-so-ever. I have reached out to them individually and have gotten no response. A couple guys have pm'd me but only a couple and only one time. Hopefully things will turn around with my group.
Title: Re: Tired
Post by: Keith0617 on June 24, 2021, 01:10:30 AM
I am so sick of chew. The money, the cancer, the 'do i have enough until morning?'. Hiding it from my family because I am ashamed, mouth all chewed to hell and yellow teeth. I really just want to be done with it. I am not 100% sure where to even start, i almost feel sick just talking about it.

My name is Harold.
I been dipping for at least 37 years, maybe longer.

Closing in on a couple weeks. I don't really know how to describe it, but definitely not felt like myself. I am so irritable and it's very difficult to focus for long periods. My 'method' seems to be to be triggered (by everything), let the impulse happen and then quickly move on from it. Repeat. I've noticed that I'll go an hour or so and never think about a dip, that's a nice feeling.

Been a month now and things are up and down. In some ways, it's easier than I thought to just quit, but I had no idea how hard staying quit was going to be. I must be honest, this site has been a huge disappointment. My group is 5 or 6 guys, they do not engage at all, they post late in the evenings and offer no support what-so-ever. I have reached out to them individually and have gotten no response. A couple guys have pm'd me but only a couple and only one time. Hopefully things will turn around with my group.
Keep plugging along and do what you have to so you stay quit. You have a site full of quitters looking to offer and receive accountability.  Use them. 
Title: Re: Tired
Post by: stillbrewing on June 24, 2021, 02:34:55 AM
I am so sick of chew. The money, the cancer, the 'do i have enough until morning?'. Hiding it from my family because I am ashamed, mouth all chewed to hell and yellow teeth. I really just want to be done with it. I am not 100% sure where to even start, i almost feel sick just talking about it.

My name is Harold.
I been dipping for at least 37 years, maybe longer.

Closing in on a couple weeks. I don't really know how to describe it, but definitely not felt like myself. I am so irritable and it's very difficult to focus for long periods. My 'method' seems to be to be triggered (by everything), let the impulse happen and then quickly move on from it. Repeat. I've noticed that I'll go an hour or so and never think about a dip, that's a nice feeling.

Been a month now and things are up and down. In some ways, it's easier than I thought to just quit, but I had no idea how hard staying quit was going to be. I must be honest, this site has been a huge disappointment. My group is 5 or 6 guys, they do not engage at all, they post late in the evenings and offer no support what-so-ever. I have reached out to them individually and have gotten no response. A couple guys have pm'd me but only a couple and only one time. Hopefully things will turn around with my group.
Keep plugging along and do what you have to so you stay quit. You have a site full of quitters looking to offer and receive accountability.  Use them.
Your quit is your own and your kicking ass!  It sucks that your group won't engage but as Keith said, that support here is endless.  PM me for digits.
Title: Re: Tired
Post by: nick-Otine Free on June 24, 2021, 06:58:22 AM
I am so sick of chew. The money, the cancer, the 'do i have enough until morning?'. Hiding it from my family because I am ashamed, mouth all chewed to hell and yellow teeth. I really just want to be done with it. I am not 100% sure where to even start, i almost feel sick just talking about it.

My name is Harold.
I been dipping for at least 37 years, maybe longer.

Closing in on a couple weeks. I don't really know how to describe it, but definitely not felt like myself. I am so irritable and it's very difficult to focus for long periods. My 'method' seems to be to be triggered (by everything), let the impulse happen and then quickly move on from it. Repeat. I've noticed that I'll go an hour or so and never think about a dip, that's a nice feeling.

Been a month now and things are up and down. In some ways, it's easier than I thought to just quit, but I had no idea how hard staying quit was going to be. I must be honest, this site has been a huge disappointment. My group is 5 or 6 guys, they do not engage at all, they post late in the evenings and offer no support what-so-ever. I have reached out to them individually and have gotten no response. A couple guys have pm'd me but only a couple and only one time. Hopefully things will turn around with my group.
Keep plugging along and do what you have to so you stay quit. You have a site full of quitters looking to offer and receive accountability.  Use them.
Your quit is your own and your kicking ass!  It sucks that your group won't engage but as Keith said, that support here is endless.  PM me for digits.
Maybe they will come around, Maybe the wont. Alot of people get stuck in their head that 100 days on this site and they are cured. they post and ghost and suck the system dry. Roll out after their HOF. Where you, Me, and these bad Ass quitters above me differ is, we will never post a day 1 again. We have freed ourselves and use the other people on this site to help us over the wall when we need it. you will be at day 500 and sadly watch as your group mates make their way back to "try" again. I agreed its easy and hard. Easy to post roll and stay the cource hard to get that itch out of your jaw. Hard to quit the old thoughts of just 1 dip . im at day 177 and the last week i feel like im craving a dip more than i did at day 1 of my quit. I just have the Quit wall of china loaded in my phone so it keeps me balanced as i fight and claw my way away from the cancerous can. I quit with you today friend.
nick ~LTBE- Let Today Be Enough~
Title: Re: Tired
Post by: Addictx3 on June 24, 2021, 11:31:02 AM
I am so sick of chew. The money, the cancer, the 'do i have enough until morning?'. Hiding it from my family because I am ashamed, mouth all chewed to hell and yellow teeth. I really just want to be done with it. I am not 100% sure where to even start, i almost feel sick just talking about it.

My name is Harold.
I been dipping for at least 37 years, maybe longer.

Closing in on a couple weeks. I don't really know how to describe it, but definitely not felt like myself. I am so irritable and it's very difficult to focus for long periods. My 'method' seems to be to be triggered (by everything), let the impulse happen and then quickly move on from it. Repeat. I've noticed that I'll go an hour or so and never think about a dip, that's a nice feeling.

Been a month now and things are up and down. In some ways, it's easier than I thought to just quit, but I had no idea how hard staying quit was going to be. I must be honest, this site has been a huge disappointment. My group is 5 or 6 guys, they do not engage at all, they post late in the evenings and offer no support what-so-ever. I have reached out to them individually and have gotten no response. A couple guys have pm'd me but only a couple and only one time. Hopefully things will turn around with my group.
Keep plugging along and do what you have to so you stay quit. You have a site full of quitters looking to offer and receive accountability.  Use them.
Your quit is your own and your kicking ass!  It sucks that your group won't engage but as Keith said, that support here is endless.  PM me for digits.
Maybe they will come around, Maybe the wont. Alot of people get stuck in their head that 100 days on this site and they are cured. they post and ghost and suck the system dry. Roll out after their HOF. Where you, Me, and these bad Ass quitters above me differ is, we will never post a day 1 again. We have freed ourselves and use the other people on this site to help us over the wall when we need it. you will be at day 500 and sadly watch as your group mates make their way back to "try" again. I agreed its easy and hard. Easy to post roll and stay the cource hard to get that itch out of your jaw. Hard to quit the old thoughts of just 1 dip . im at day 177 and the last week i feel like im craving a dip more than i did at day 1 of my quit. I just have the Quit wall of china loaded in my phone so it keeps me balanced as i fight and claw my way away from the cancerous can. I quit with you today friend.
nick ~LTBE- Let Today Be Enough~
I shot you a PM @Harold (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=20088)  I have some of the same feelings about the site, but we cant control what others do, only what we do. I figure we can try to give others what we wish we had at the beginning, and go from there. Also, like I said in PM, there are some absolute badasses on this site. A few reached out to me in the beginning, and I'd be willing to bet you heard from some as well.

I made a whiney post in the help section about the site yesterday, but I feel like the quit groups  sometimes take away from the sense of community, not add to it. It doesn't matter to me if we quit the same month or not, we are all on the same journey.
Title: Re: Tired
Post by: 69franx on June 24, 2021, 12:04:21 PM
I am so sick of chew. The money, the cancer, the 'do i have enough until morning?'. Hiding it from my family because I am ashamed, mouth all chewed to hell and yellow teeth. I really just want to be done with it. I am not 100% sure where to even start, i almost feel sick just talking about it.

My name is Harold.
I been dipping for at least 37 years, maybe longer.

Closing in on a couple weeks. I don't really know how to describe it, but definitely not felt like myself. I am so irritable and it's very difficult to focus for long periods. My 'method' seems to be to be triggered (by everything), let the impulse happen and then quickly move on from it. Repeat. I've noticed that I'll go an hour or so and never think about a dip, that's a nice feeling.

Been a month now and things are up and down. In some ways, it's easier than I thought to just quit, but I had no idea how hard staying quit was going to be. I must be honest, this site has been a huge disappointment. My group is 5 or 6 guys, they do not engage at all, they post late in the evenings and offer no support what-so-ever. I have reached out to them individually and have gotten no response. A couple guys have pm'd me but only a couple and only one time. Hopefully things will turn around with my group.
Keep plugging along and do what you have to so you stay quit. You have a site full of quitters looking to offer and receive accountability.  Use them.
Your quit is your own and your kicking ass!  It sucks that your group won't engage but as Keith said, that support here is endless.  PM me for digits.
Maybe they will come around, Maybe the wont. Alot of people get stuck in their head that 100 days on this site and they are cured. they post and ghost and suck the system dry. Roll out after their HOF. Where you, Me, and these bad Ass quitters above me differ is, we will never post a day 1 again. We have freed ourselves and use the other people on this site to help us over the wall when we need it. you will be at day 500 and sadly watch as your group mates make their way back to "try" again. I agreed its easy and hard. Easy to post roll and stay the cource hard to get that itch out of your jaw. Hard to quit the old thoughts of just 1 dip . im at day 177 and the last week i feel like im craving a dip more than i did at day 1 of my quit. I just have the Quit wall of china loaded in my phone so it keeps me balanced as i fight and claw my way away from the cancerous can. I quit with you today friend.
nick ~LTBE- Let Today Be Enough~
I shot you a PM @Harold (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=20088)  I have some of the same feelings about the site, but we cant control what others do, only what we do. I figure we can try to give others what we wish we had at the beginning, and go from there. Also, like I said in PM, there are some absolute badasses on this site. A few reached out to me in the beginning, and I'd be willing to bet you heard from some as well.

I made a whiney post in the help section about the site yesterday, but I feel like the quit groups  sometimes take away from the sense of community, not add to it. It doesn't matter to me if we quit the same month or not, we are all on the same journey.
Take advantage of all the people who have reached out to you? I know I sent my digits via PM and have never heard back. Sometimes you have to do some work, other times just respond to the people who have made the effort. Doesn't have to be me, reach out via PM to anyone you feel can/could help support you and your quit. Start with the people posting support in your group EDD. Stay strong stay quit. You will never regret quitting, you will always regret caving.
Title: Re: Tired
Post by: Hill_Monkey on June 24, 2021, 01:38:39 PM
I am so sick of chew. The money, the cancer, the 'do i have enough until morning?'. Hiding it from my family because I am ashamed, mouth all chewed to hell and yellow teeth. I really just want to be done with it. I am not 100% sure where to even start, i almost feel sick just talking about it.

My name is Harold.
I been dipping for at least 37 years, maybe longer.

Closing in on a couple weeks. I don't really know how to describe it, but definitely not felt like myself. I am so irritable and it's very difficult to focus for long periods. My 'method' seems to be to be triggered (by everything), let the impulse happen and then quickly move on from it. Repeat. I've noticed that I'll go an hour or so and never think about a dip, that's a nice feeling.

Been a month now and things are up and down. In some ways, it's easier than I thought to just quit, but I had no idea how hard staying quit was going to be. I must be honest, this site has been a huge disappointment. My group is 5 or 6 guys, they do not engage at all, they post late in the evenings and offer no support what-so-ever. I have reached out to them individually and have gotten no response. A couple guys have pm'd me but only a couple and only one time. Hopefully things will turn around with my group.

I hit a really low, dark period around day 150ish. Was ready to quit this site & delete all the numbers I got from other quitters (we're not real active either).

I got some tough talking to (my intro thread) and I guess that's what it took to power through the rough patch, I'm not saying I'm on cruise control but it's a hell of a lot easier.

Stay focused and power through. I quit with you today. 
Title: Re: Tired
Post by: Natro on June 24, 2021, 04:14:24 PM
I am so sick of chew. The money, the cancer, the 'do i have enough until morning?'. Hiding it from my family because I am ashamed, mouth all chewed to hell and yellow teeth. I really just want to be done with it. I am not 100% sure where to even start, i almost feel sick just talking about it.

My name is Harold.
I been dipping for at least 37 years, maybe longer.

Closing in on a couple weeks. I don't really know how to describe it, but definitely not felt like myself. I am so irritable and it's very difficult to focus for long periods. My 'method' seems to be to be triggered (by everything), let the impulse happen and then quickly move on from it. Repeat. I've noticed that I'll go an hour or so and never think about a dip, that's a nice feeling.

Been a month now and things are up and down. In some ways, it's easier than I thought to just quit, but I had no idea how hard staying quit was going to be. I must be honest, this site has been a huge disappointment. My group is 5 or 6 guys, they do not engage at all, they post late in the evenings and offer no support what-so-ever. I have reached out to them individually and have gotten no response. A couple guys have pm'd me but only a couple and only one time. Hopefully things will turn around with my group.

I hit a really low, dark period around day 150ish. Was ready to quit this site & delete all the numbers I got from other quitters (we're not real active either).

I got some tough talking to (my intro thread) and I guess that's what it took to power through the rough patch, I'm not saying I'm on cruise control but it's a hell of a lot easier.

Stay focused and power through. I quit with you today.
Maybe latch on to an active group. Don't stop posting in your group, but any active group would welcome another member of any month to post along with them.  Add support and see what the older group is going through so you'll be ready for it when you get there. Just my .02
Title: Re: Tired
Post by: Stranger999 on June 25, 2021, 12:48:09 AM
I am so sick of chew. The money, the cancer, the 'do i have enough until morning?'. Hiding it from my family because I am ashamed, mouth all chewed to hell and yellow teeth. I really just want to be done with it. I am not 100% sure where to even start, i almost feel sick just talking about it.

My name is Harold.
I been dipping for at least 37 years, maybe longer.

Closing in on a couple weeks. I don't really know how to describe it, but definitely not felt like myself. I am so irritable and it's very difficult to focus for long periods. My 'method' seems to be to be triggered (by everything), let the impulse happen and then quickly move on from it. Repeat. I've noticed that I'll go an hour or so and never think about a dip, that's a nice feeling.

Been a month now and things are up and down. In some ways, it's easier than I thought to just quit, but I had no idea how hard staying quit was going to be. I must be honest, this site has been a huge disappointment. My group is 5 or 6 guys, they do not engage at all, they post late in the evenings and offer no support what-so-ever. I have reached out to them individually and have gotten no response. A couple guys have pm'd me but only a couple and only one time. Hopefully things will turn around with my group.

I hit a really low, dark period around day 150ish. Was ready to quit this site & delete all the numbers I got from other quitters (we're not real active either).

I got some tough talking to (my intro thread) and I guess that's what it took to power through the rough patch, I'm not saying I'm on cruise control but it's a hell of a lot easier.

Stay focused and power through. I quit with you today.
Maybe latch on to an active group. Don't stop posting in your group, but any active group would welcome another member of any month to post along with them.  Add support and see what the older group is going through so you'll be ready for it when you get there. Just my .02

I agree with Natro.  My group is awesome but I post in other groups too.  Build your own quit chain and keep that chain solid.  Keep an eye out for quit meets in your area.  Nothing gave me a bigger boost than meeting other quitters in person.
Title: Re: Tired
Post by: Harold on August 02, 2021, 11:35:54 PM
I am so sick of chew. The money, the cancer, the 'do i have enough until morning?'. Hiding it from my family because I am ashamed, mouth all chewed to hell and yellow teeth. I really just want to be done with it. I am not 100% sure where to even start, i almost feel sick just talking about it.

My name is Harold.
I been dipping for at least 37 years, maybe longer.

Closing in on a couple weeks. I don't really know how to describe it, but definitely not felt like myself. I am so irritable and it's very difficult to focus for long periods. My 'method' seems to be to be triggered (by everything), let the impulse happen and then quickly move on from it. Repeat. I've noticed that I'll go an hour or so and never think about a dip, that's a nice feeling.

Been around 75 days or so and I am shocked at the power of this addiction. I always considered chew as a nasty habit, 30 days and its broke. I was so wrong, honestly, it's no easier now than day 1, maybe this is just the way it is from now on. I have days where I think about dip 20 or 30 times. Some days are better and I only think about it 5 or 10 times but it's always right there. It starts to wear me down sometimes and I think that I should just say fuck this and go get a dip. Odds are I will never get mouth cancer from it. So far I am winning these battles in my mind but I need some tools to fight. I wish the powers of this site would consider combining groups together, groups of 4 or 5 people don't make sense, put several groups together and lets have 25 people in there battling together. STRENGTH IN NUMBERS!!
Title: Re: Tired
Post by: Zombo Funk on August 02, 2021, 11:41:00 PM
I am so sick of chew. The money, the cancer, the 'do i have enough until morning?'. Hiding it from my family because I am ashamed, mouth all chewed to hell and yellow teeth. I really just want to be done with it. I am not 100% sure where to even start, i almost feel sick just talking about it.

My name is Harold.
I been dipping for at least 37 years, maybe longer.

Closing in on a couple weeks. I don't really know how to describe it, but definitely not felt like myself. I am so irritable and it's very difficult to focus for long periods. My 'method' seems to be to be triggered (by everything), let the impulse happen and then quickly move on from it. Repeat. I've noticed that I'll go an hour or so and never think about a dip, that's a nice feeling.

Been around 75 days or so and I am shocked at the power of this addiction. I always considered chew as a nasty habit, 30 days and its broke. I was so wrong, honestly, it's no easier now than day 1, maybe this is just the way it is from now on. I have days where I think about dip 20 or 30 times. Some days are better and I only think about it 5 or 10 times but it's always right there. It starts to wear me down sometimes and I think that I should just say fuck this and go get a dip. Odds are I will never get mouth cancer from it. So far I am winning these battles in my mind but I need some tools to fight. I wish the powers of this site would consider combining groups together, groups of 4 or 5 people don't make sense, put several groups together and lets have 25 people in there battling together. STRENGTH IN NUMBERS!!
461 days in and I'm right there with you. Some days are rough. As far as groups go, your month is really small and that does suck, but we're all one group of quitters. Post everywhere and get phone numbers and connect outside the forms if you can. I'm proud to quit with you from August '20
Title: Re: Tired
Post by: GS9502 on August 03, 2021, 06:18:24 AM
I am so sick of chew. The money, the cancer, the 'do i have enough until morning?'. Hiding it from my family because I am ashamed, mouth all chewed to hell and yellow teeth. I really just want to be done with it. I am not 100% sure where to even start, i almost feel sick just talking about it.

My name is Harold.
I been dipping for at least 37 years, maybe longer.

Closing in on a couple weeks. I don't really know how to describe it, but definitely not felt like myself. I am so irritable and it's very difficult to focus for long periods. My 'method' seems to be to be triggered (by everything), let the impulse happen and then quickly move on from it. Repeat. I've noticed that I'll go an hour or so and never think about a dip, that's a nice feeling.

Been around 75 days or so and I am shocked at the power of this addiction. I always considered chew as a nasty habit, 30 days and its broke. I was so wrong, honestly, it's no easier now than day 1, maybe this is just the way it is from now on. I have days where I think about dip 20 or 30 times. Some days are better and I only think about it 5 or 10 times but it's always right there. It starts to wear me down sometimes and I think that I should just say fuck this and go get a dip. Odds are I will never get mouth cancer from it. So far I am winning these battles in my mind but I need some tools to fight. I wish the powers of this site would consider combining groups together, groups of 4 or 5 people don't make sense, put several groups together and lets have 25 people in there battling together. STRENGTH IN NUMBERS!!
461 days in and I'm right there with you. Some days are rough. As far as groups go, your month is really small and that does suck, but we're all one group of quitters. Post everywhere and get phone numbers and connect outside the forms if you can. I'm proud to quit with you from August '20
@Harold (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=20088) I'm at 523, and I know what you mean. I still think about dip every now and then. It does get better, though. Just stay the course, my friend. And like Zombo said, jump around and support other groups. Ask for digits with those who support your group. Hell, I'll start. Check your PM.
Title: Re: Tired
Post by: nick-Otine Free on August 03, 2021, 07:28:15 AM
I am so sick of chew. The money, the cancer, the 'do i have enough until morning?'. Hiding it from my family because I am ashamed, mouth all chewed to hell and yellow teeth. I really just want to be done with it. I am not 100% sure where to even start, i almost feel sick just talking about it.

My name is Harold.
I been dipping for at least 37 years, maybe longer.

Closing in on a couple weeks. I don't really know how to describe it, but definitely not felt like myself. I am so irritable and it's very difficult to focus for long periods. My 'method' seems to be to be triggered (by everything), let the impulse happen and then quickly move on from it. Repeat. I've noticed that I'll go an hour or so and never think about a dip, that's a nice feeling.

Been around 75 days or so and I am shocked at the power of this addiction. I always considered chew as a nasty habit, 30 days and its broke. I was so wrong, honestly, it's no easier now than day 1, maybe this is just the way it is from now on. I have days where I think about dip 20 or 30 times. Some days are better and I only think about it 5 or 10 times but it's always right there. It starts to wear me down sometimes and I think that I should just say fuck this and go get a dip. Odds are I will never get mouth cancer from it. So far I am winning these battles in my mind but I need some tools to fight. I wish the powers of this site would consider combining groups together, groups of 4 or 5 people don't make sense, put several groups together and lets have 25 people in there battling together. STRENGTH IN NUMBERS!!
461 days in and I'm right there with you. Some days are rough. As far as groups go, your month is really small and that does suck, but we're all one group of quitters. Post everywhere and get phone numbers and connect outside the forms if you can. I'm proud to quit with you from August '20
@Harold (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=20088) I'm at 523, and I know what you mean. I still think about dip every now and then. It does get better, though. Just stay the course, my friend. And like Zombo said, jump around and support other groups. Ask for digits with those who support your group. Hell, I'll start. Check your PM.
Best ingonre that PM ^^^^ this dude sends , the perfect amount of butthole pictures to make you a little uncomfortable. Hold on tight buddy i battled hard in the 70s funk, which for me hit from days 80-95, ive seen alot of people cave days before their HOF. Our minds tell us crazy amounts of lies not just about dipping. once you square away that lie that is nicotine and the death soil that it is you can go about your 24 hour day free. im feeling really good in my 200s, i stopped fake after my HOF, which if i had to do it over again i would not. It has been crazy hard not feeding that fixation part. but i do feel better. As for cancer we all say the Odds are it wont be us until it is. My uncle stacked those same odds and now is fighting for his life EDD. KTC is one big quit group and we all struggle, After your HOF you can remove the support line and will be all one big roll if thats what your group decideds. I quit with you Harold, you been a pillar in your group and have been kicking ass. you be surprised how many actually look up to you without you even knowing it. I quit with you my Friend!
~nick-217 days LTBE~