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Community => General Discussion => Topic started by: chewie on December 26, 2011, 04:05:00 PM
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General quit discussion, questions, answers, etc.
Guests looking to quit looking for answers are welcome.
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Happy New Year quitters!
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Happy New Year quitters!
Thanks Chewie, You da man.
Period.
P.S. You have no idea how many people you have helped, along with the admin and mod crew.
Just sayin ;)
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Happy New Year quitters!
Thanks Chewie, You da man.
Period.
P.S. You have no idea how many people you have helped, along with the admin and mod crew.
Just sayin ;)
Only an emoticon is necessary:
'worship'
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Happy New Year quitters!
Thanks Chewie, You da man.
Period.
P.S. You have no idea how many people you have helped, along with the admin and mod crew.
Just sayin ;)
Only an emoticon is necessary:
'worship'
+1 to chewie and all the mods. You ALL give countless hours trying to save lives. In the process you piss people off, entertain some, and actually save lives. Literally. Count me as one more...for today anyway. Happy new year, I will be forever grateful for all your service.
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Happy New Year Quitters !!
What's that? Not a quitter yet? Well? Start a new chapter in your life and make page one QUIT !!
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If you're looking for something to keep you entertained for a few minutes, check out these couple of blog posts... the trolls are out in full force and I'm in the mood to deal with them.
KTC, Facebook And The Great American Spit Out
http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/03/ktc- ... -spit-out/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/03/ktc-facebook-and-the-great-american-spit-out/)
Hooch Snuff Review (Chattahoochee Herbal Snuff)
http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/10/hooch-snuff-review/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/10/hooch-snuff-review/)
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If you're looking for something to keep you entertained for a few minutes, check out these couple of blog posts... the trolls are out in full force and I'm in the mood to deal with them.
KTC, Facebook And The Great American Spit Out
http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/03/ktc- ... -spit-out/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/03/ktc-facebook-and-the-great-american-spit-out/)
Hooch Snuff Review (Chattahoochee Herbal Snuff)
http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/10/hooch-snuff-review/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/10/hooch-snuff-review/)
That didn't keep me entertained for a second; it just made me angry . . . . :angry:
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Do smokeless alternatives make it harder to quit? 'help'
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Do smokeless alternatives make it harder to quit? 'help'
If you mean anything with nicotine- then a resounding YES- nicotine replacement therapy makes it harder to quit..actually you are not quitting anything at all- you are still using the substance you are addicted to, you just changed the delivery method. Weaning off of nicotine just prolongs your withdrawal, kind of like torturing yourself for no reason.
If you mean fake dip- then my answer is NO- it does not make it harder. Fake dip it made it much easier for me.
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Do smokeless alternatives make it harder to quit? 'help'
If you mean anything with nicotine- then a resounding YES!!! That just prolongs your withdrawal, kind of like torturing yourself for no reason.
If you mean fake dip- then my answer is NO. Fake dip it made it much easier for me.
Should have been more specific. Fake Dip is what I meant. Just found out Wal-Mart sells Smokey Mtn. Snuff. My way of thinking is if is goes in like a pinch am I cheating myself even though it's fake?
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Do smokeless alternatives make it harder to quit? 'help'
If you mean anything with nicotine- then a resounding YES!!! That just prolongs your withdrawal, kind of like torturing yourself for no reason.
If you mean fake dip- then my answer is NO. Fake dip it made it much easier for me.
Should have been more specific. Fake Dip is what I meant. Just found out Wal-Mart sells Smokey Mtn. Snuff. My way of thinking is if is goes in like a pinch am I cheating myself even though it's fake?
Whatever it takes to keep nicotine and carcinogens out of your mouth. That is the way I see it.
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Do smokeless alternatives make it harder to quit? 'help'
If you mean anything with nicotine- then a resounding YES!!! That just prolongs your withdrawal, kind of like torturing yourself for no reason.
If you mean fake dip- then my answer is NO. Fake dip it made it much easier for me.
Should have been more specific. Fake Dip is what I meant. Just found out Wal-Mart sells Smokey Mtn. Snuff. My way of thinking is if is goes in like a pinch am I cheating myself even though it's fake?
Whatever it takes to keep nicotine and carcinogens out of your mouth. That is the way I see it.
I used fake stuff for my first 200 days or so. It REALLY helped me (at least I think).
One day, I just stopped putting it in. Just like I stopped power eating seeds. Just like I stopped eating peanut MM's by the fist full. Just like I stopped power slamming coffee until 7 pm.
But it took me that long to get secure enough with my quit.
How did I do it? With the help of this site, and the 'One day at a time' mantra.
PM me if you need some help bro.
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Do smokeless alternatives make it harder to quit? 'help'
If you mean anything with nicotine- then a resounding YES!!! That just prolongs your withdrawal, kind of like torturing yourself for no reason.
If you mean fake dip- then my answer is NO. Fake dip it made it much easier for me.
Should have been more specific. Fake Dip is what I meant. Just found out Wal-Mart sells Smokey Mtn. Snuff. My way of thinking is if is goes in like a pinch am I cheating myself even though it's fake?
Whatever it takes to keep nicotine and carcinogens out of your mouth. That is the way I see it.
I used fake stuff for my first 200 days or so. It REALLY helped me (at least I think).
One day, I just stopped putting it in. Just like I stopped power eating seeds. Just like I stopped eating peanut MM's by the fist full. Just like I stopped power slamming coffee until 7 pm.
But it took me that long to get secure enough with my quit.
How did I do it? With the help of this site, and the 'One day at a time' mantra.
PM me if you need some help bro.
I used it for the first 150 days of my quit, and gave it up earlier this month.
Why?
I had been tiring of it as it was, but I saw another quitter with over 1000 days give addict eyes after trying it from the first time since quitting. I decided it was my last piece of my quit that needed to be let go that day.
If you use it from the onset, I don't see an issue in it. But I would not suggest picking it up out of the blue because that could be dangerous.
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New blog post: Ringing In 2012 With Some HUGE Numbers!
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/01/ring ... e-numbers/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/01/ringing-in-2012-with-some-huge-numbers/)
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quit jan 2 been a longggg night
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quit jan 2 been a longggg night
Keep pushing forward, Cat. It sucks before it gets better, but it does get better. Believe me, it's worth the fight! If you need anything send me a pm ASAP.
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Start date 1977- end date 01/01/2012! and it's gonna be a bitch- I office out of my house - I haven't touched a pinch since New Years but am using Smokey Mountain right now until Hootch comes in the mail-
Looking forward only NO RETREAT
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Start date 1977- end date 01/01/2012! and it's gonna be a bitch- I office out of my house - I haven't touched a pinch since New Years but am using Smokey Mountain right now until Hootch comes in the mail-
Looking forward only NO RETREAT
Hey CBird,
Welcome to the fun! You may not think of your quit as "fun" right now but it gets better down the road.
I don't see a roll post in April for you. Head on over there and post, promising not to use any form of nicotine today. Keep your word and do the same tomorrow. You'll be surprised how quickly the quit days will roll up, but remember to focus on quitting TODAY only; it's the only moment you have power to control.
Read everything you can in the WELCOME CENTER. Information is power.
If you need anything, don't hesitate to send me a PM.
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Trying to make it thru day 4. Sure would be easy to run across the street for a can. Ugh! I can make it. I think. No. I know I will.
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Trying to make it thru day 4. Sure would be easy to run across the street for a can. Ugh! I can make it. I think. No. I know I will.
Do all the reading on this site that you can.
Get into chat.
Work out a plan to deal with the craves that will come. Here's something I wrote a little while back that may be of help:
index.php?showtopic=5098 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=5098)
If you need a number or anything else, send me a PM ASAP.
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Trying to make it thru day 4. Sure would be easy to run across the street for a can. Ugh! I can make it. I think. No. I know I will.
Do all the reading on this site that you can.
Get into chat.
Work out a plan to deal with the craves that will come. Here's something I wrote a little while back that may be of help:
index.php?showtopic=5098 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=5098)
If you need a number or anything else, send me a PM ASAP.
day 2 starting, been quit for about 35 hours, gonna keep it going
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Trying to make it thru day 4. Sure would be easy to run across the street for a can. Ugh! I can make it. I think. No. I know I will.
Do all the reading on this site that you can.
Get into chat.
Work out a plan to deal with the craves that will come. Here's something I wrote a little while back that may be of help:
index.php?showtopic=5098 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=5098)
If you need a number or anything else, send me a PM ASAP.
day 2 starting, been quit for about 35 hours, gonna keep it going
Hey, Jake, welcome to the fun! This is the best decision that you'll ever make. Go on over to April and post roll, promising not to use nicotine in any form today. Then keep your word and post again tomorrow . . . .
Read the stuff in the Welcome Center; Information is power!!!
Contact me ASAP if you need anything!!
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This is a hard habit to kick not sure how all of you have done it but i would like some suggestions if anybody has some
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This is a hard habit to kick not sure how all of you have done it but i would like some suggestions if anybody has some
Post Roll Call everyday. Honor your word today. Repat tomorrow.
It really is that simple. Sure it's gonna suck. Suck bad. Suck for a while...but it's worth it.
Follow the welcome center link. Read #4. Read it again. Make sure you understand it. Read it again. Then read #3.
Head over to April quit group and post that Day 1. You'll be surrounded by people in the same boat as you. And better, by living breathing example of how it can be done.
Welcome to the site.
LOOT - Day 2411
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This is a hard habit to kick not sure how all of you have done it but i would like some suggestions if anybody has some
Post Roll Call everyday. Honor your word today. Repat tomorrow.
It really is that simple. Sure it's gonna suck. Suck bad. Suck for a while...but it's worth it.
Follow the welcome center link. Read #4. Read it again. Make sure you understand it. Read it again. Then read #3.
Head over to April quit group and post that Day 1. You'll be surrounded by people in the same boat as you. And better, by living breathing example of how it can be done.
Welcome to the site.
LOOT - Day 2411
And then you get to hang out with some of the best quitters around, including LOOT :unsure:
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day 7 for me and THIS SUCKS!! But i know i can do it cause I WANT TO!! Ive seen you guys talking about this fake chew and that just makes me want the real deal. What is keeping me going is the face i wont have a nasty spit cup with me, clean teeth, my girlfriend wont be afraid to kiss me and the money i will save. I am very glad i found this sight!!
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day 7 for me and THIS SUCKS!! But i know i can do it cause I WANT TO!! Ive seen you guys talking about this fake chew and that just makes me want the real deal. What is keeping me going is the face i wont have a nasty spit cup with me, clean teeth, my girlfriend wont be afraid to kiss me and the money i will save. I am very glad i found this sight!!
Dustin,
Congrats on the week of quit!!! You're on your way to freedom.
You're absolutely right; the first days of quitting do suck. Never forget how bad these days are because you never want to go back to them and start over. Push through this once and it can be behind you completely.
For now it's one day at a time. I see you've posted a Day 1 in April. Keep true to that promise today and repeat it again tomorrow . . . . Each day of quit will erode the grip that nic has on you.
One other thing: You're quitting for yourself. Not for your girlfriend. She will undoubtedly reap benefits from your quit, but you've got to want this for yourself. If you quit for her, you may end up blaming all the difficulties of the quit on her and lash out.
Contact me ASAP, if you need anything.
It's worth the fight!!
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I tried to start a new topic, but was denied. Apologies if this post is in the wrong place, but I tried and failed to quit today.
DAMN! Awoke a 6am and only made it to 1pm before I used the last bit of Kodiak left in my can.
'bang head'
Been dipping on and off for 25+ years...the "off" was a 15 year or so stint as a smoker. My wife and I both quit smoking five years ago. She's still tobacco-free...I didn't even finish my Chantix script before I was back on dip. While I'm glad my lungs are healthier, I really do want to kick nicotine.
I feel like I need something in my lip, and a plan to deal with these first 3 days...hell, honestly the first 3 hours....
Where can I get some of the fake stuff? Is it mail order only?
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I tried to start a new topic, but was denied. Apologies if this post is in the wrong place, but I tried and failed to quit today.
DAMN! Awoke a 6am and only made it to 1pm before I used the last bit of Kodiak left in my can.
'bang head'
Been dipping on and off for 25+ years...the "off" was a 15 year or so stint as a smoker. My wife and I both quit smoking five years ago. She's still tobacco-free...I didn't even finish my Chantix script before I was back on dip. While I'm glad my lungs are healthier, I really do want to kick nicotine.
I feel like I need something in my lip, and a plan to deal with these first 3 days...hell, honestly the first 3 hours....
Where can I get some of the fake stuff? Is it mail order only?
To answer your question about fake go here:
http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp)
Getting at some bigger issues:
If you're going to quit, you need to get rid of every (and I mean every) bit of nicotine in your possession. Toss it; flush it; piss in it, if that is what it takes to keep you away.
Next, this is a nicotine-free site. Also dump the Chantix. It'll only prolong the agony of withdrawal.
We do this one day at a time. I noticed that you didn't post roll yesterday, nor today. Is that correct? If so, trash the stuff and get over to April 2012 and put your name on roll call. Posting roll means that you are making your promise to the group to remain quit for this day. Post roll; keep your promise; do the same tomorrow. The accountability of roll call is key to making this quit stick.
You can chew seeds, gum, red fireballs, etc., to keep the craves at bay until you find some fake stuff. Also, drink lots of water and get plenty of exercise.
Finally, you need a course of action for the times when the craves may get overwhelming. This link provides some advice but you need to get some numbers from people you can call for support.
index.php?showtopic=5098 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=5098)
Contact me ASAP if I can help further. You can do this! And it is worth the fight!!
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something else to get pissed at to start the year: Nicotine patch may boost memory in elderly who are mildly impaired (http://www.latimes.com/health/boostershots/la-heb-nicotine-patch-memory-20120109,0,7510252.story)
and when the pach costs to much i'm sure switchin to smokes or dip will be just fine. so was it big farma or big tabacky that fundid this one?
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something else to get pissed at to start the year: Nicotine patch may boost memory in elderly who are mildly impaired (http://www.latimes.com/health/boostershots/la-heb-nicotine-patch-memory-20120109,0,7510252.story)
and when the pach costs to much i'm sure switchin to smokes or dip will be just fine. so was it big farma or big tabacky that fundid this one?
I love the word, "may."
Farts may also increase your popularity among certain groups of Caucasian males.
:wacko:
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something else to get pissed at to start the year: Nicotine patch may boost memory in elderly who are mildly impaired (http://www.latimes.com/health/boostershots/la-heb-nicotine-patch-memory-20120109,0,7510252.story)
and when the pach costs to much i'm sure switchin to smokes or dip will be just fine. so was it big farma or big tabacky that fundid this one?
I love the word, "may."
Farts may also increase your popularity among certain groups of Caucasian males.
:wacko:
"I might have brought my arrowhead collection... I didn't so I won't bother looking for it!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xI6vo5dQel4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xI6vo5dQel4)
RIP George... miss you.
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New blog post: How Did You Find The Site?
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/01/how- ... -the-site/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/01/how-did-you-find-the-site/)
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something else to get pissed at to start the year: Nicotine patch may boost memory in elderly who are mildly impaired (http://www.latimes.com/health/boostershots/la-heb-nicotine-patch-memory-20120109,0,7510252.story)
and when the pach costs to much i'm sure switchin to smokes or dip will be just fine. so was it big farma or big tabacky that fundid this one?
I love the word, "may."
Farts may also increase your popularity among certain groups of Caucasian males.
:wacko:
"I might have brought my arrowhead collection... I didn't so I won't bother looking for it!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xI6vo5dQel4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xI6vo5dQel4)
RIP George... miss you.
That was excellent, Chewie!!
'crackup' 'crackup'
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Hour 26 of my quit. Tried posting to quit group, but it wasn't showing any replies. Not sure what I was doing incorrectly.
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Hour 26 of my quit. Tried posting to quit group, but it wasn't showing any replies. Not sure what I was doing incorrectly.
Auburn brother, read this index.php?showtopic=50 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50) .
I fixed your roll post over in the April group. You are posted up, go have a look.
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New blog post: How Did You Find The Site?
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/01/how- ... -the-site/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/01/how-did-you-find-the-site/)
nice 2,000, brother.
thanks for all you do and congrats!
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New blog post:Â How Did You Find The Site?
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/01/how- ... -the-site/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/01/how-did-you-find-the-site/)
nice 2,000, brother.
thanks for all you do and congrats!
Congrats Chewie.
BTW...I plan on coming to the site everyday with "gmann, ghey" google search.
First hit brings me here.
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New blog post:Â Â How Did You Find The Site?
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/01/how- ... -the-site/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/01/how-did-you-find-the-site/)
nice 2,000, brother.
thanks for all you do and congrats!
Congrats Chewie.
BTW...I plan on coming to the site everyday with "gmann, ghey" google search.
First hit brings me here.
Thanks boys... tonight I'm gonna party like it's 1999 (cause it is ;) )
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New blog post:  How Did You Find The Site?
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/01/how- ... -the-site/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/01/how-did-you-find-the-site/)
nice 2,000, brother.
thanks for all you do and congrats!
Congrats Chewie.
BTW...I plan on coming to the site everyday with "gmann, ghey" google search.
First hit brings me here.
Thanks boys... tonight I'm gonna party like it's 1999 (cause it is ;) )
Just quit today, Chewie. We'll worry about tomorrow when it gets here.
:D
FUWPYGFSJF
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New blog post: � How Did You Find The Site?
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/01/how- ... -the-site/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/01/how-did-you-find-the-site/)
nice 2,000, brother.
thanks for all you do and congrats!
Congrats Chewie.
BTW...I plan on coming to the site everyday with "gmann, ghey" google search.
First hit brings me here.
Thanks boys... tonight I'm gonna party like it's 1999 (cause it is ;) )
Just quit today, Chewie. We'll worry about tomorrow when it gets here.
:D
FUWPYGFSJF
hey.... I've heard that somewhere before.
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I threw all the cans out of my truck and went to Sheetz without buying a can. It was liberating, but at the same time aggravating. Im doing this quit for me. I'm figurin out my triggers. I'm a grad student, so writing papers, COD, driving and spicy food. I keep telling myself that all the money I save will be used to buy an engagement ring and that's my motivation. Sorry I changed the topic, but I needed to vent. BTW Congrats Chewy, you're an inspiration
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I threw all the cans out of my truck and went to Sheetz without buying a can. It was liberating, but at the same time aggravating. Im doing this quit for me. I'm figurin out my triggers. I'm a grad student, so writing papers, COD, driving and spicy food. I keep telling myself that all the money I save will be used to buy an engagement ring and that's my motivation. Sorry I changed the topic, but I needed to vent. BTW Congrats Chewy, you're an inspiration
Have you joined the April group and posted roll yet? It's the only way to fly when your quitting. The accountability is what you need!
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Posted roll yesterday and I'm fixin on doing right after I post this
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Posted roll yesterday and I'm fixin on doing right after I post this
Nice job, hossman, and welcome to the fun! Quitting is the best decision you'll ever make. The first days will be tough but your life is worth the fight.
If you need anything just send me a PM.
In the meantime go to KillTheCan.org and read everything you can. Information is power.
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Posted roll yesterday and I'm fixin on doing right after I post this
Nice job, hossman, and welcome to the fun! Quitting is the best decision you'll ever make. The first days will be tough but your life is worth the fight.
If you need anything just send me a PM.
In the meantime go to KillTheCan.org and read everything you can. Information is power.
Yeah, it's cool that I can access the forums from my phone. Always able to use that resource.
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I got a three day test starting tomorrow- Got a couple of emergency numbers in the queue but also have a number of projects that will keep me occupied while my wife is out of town. Plenty of Hooch on hand just in case. I'll take it one day at a time.
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I had crazy ass dreams last night. I'm a bit of a sleep walker already so it could get interesting.
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I had crazy ass dreams last night. I'm a bit of a sleep walker already so it could get interesting.
Hey guys, great to have you here and congrats on your great decision to quit.
Your always welcome to post here in general discussion, but might I suggest that you post these type things in your quit group, April 2012.
There are dozens of quitters in there going through the exact same things as you. You'll get more advice and accountability in there.
Again, welcome to the site, and shout out if I can be of assistance.
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Hey Folks, First let me start by apologizing... I have not checked into this site for almost 2 years.... However I recieved an email today that someone had sent me a message... When I finally remembered my log in info "thanks CHEWIE", I found a message from a guy who must have thought I wrote something... Sorry... wasnt me....
But I would like to update you all on my progress since November of 2009... I have been dipless... none, naughta, nothing since November 17th.... I had a few scares with mouth sores and scarring or the "healing process"... but other then that life is good...
I have decided to monitor the site and give words of encouragment when needed... Quitting sucks... But after 31 years of chewing I am glad it is behind me....
Good luck to all of those on their journey, Congrats to all who have succeeded and thanks for keeping this site going!
dipshit
(note spelling... I believe a person spelling their user name dippshit has posted stuff... please do not get us confused)
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Hey Folks, First let me start by apologizing... I have not checked into this site for almost 2 years.... However I recieved an email today that someone had sent me a message... When I finally remembered my log in info "thanks CHEWIE", I found a message from a guy who must have thought I wrote something... Sorry... wasnt me....
But I would like to update you all on my progress since November of 2009... I have been dipless... none, naughta, nothing since November 17th.... I had a few scares with mouth sores and scarring or the "healing process"... but other then that life is good...
I have decided to monitor the site and give words of encouragment when needed... Quitting sucks... But after 31 years of chewing I am glad it is behind me....
Good luck to all of those on their journey, Congrats to all who have succeeded and thanks for keeping this site going!
dipshit
(note spelling... I believe a person spelling their user name dippshit has posted stuff... please do not get us confused)
Hey dipshit,
Thanks for checking in on us, but we're doing just fine. You're right, it was probably someone replying to 'dippshit'. He's a very active quitter here.
You can keep your 'luck'. We don't rely on it here. We make a decision every day. We don't 'hope' and we certainly don't 'try'. We do.
It's great that you are quit. You are quit, right? No nicotine? Anyone can stop dipping. If you didn't know, we are a 100% nicotine free site.
If you're interested in encouraging words, and helping hands, let me offer this:
Find your quit group. Jump around and see if you fit here. I think you might find many encouraging words yourself.
Post roll.
It's what we do.
You should learn what it's about.
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Wow.... okay.... Well let me start by saying I am 100% nicotine free after chewing for 30 years.... Thats right 100%... So that clears that up... As for me wishing you luck... my apology... Was not aware that such words as "luck" or "hope" have such negative effects...
I am sorry that I succeeded and wanted to share my story to maybe help encourage others as I HAVE BEEN THERE... and I KNOW WHAT ITS LIKE...
I also apologize for not knowing the proper protocal for your site... I do not believe that your response was necessary...
So I apologize again... Maybe I will look into the protocal of the site however if responses are all like yours I do not really need that aggravation in my life....
Thanks for your input and POSITIVE feed back on a support site such as this... Nice job!
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Hey Folks, First let me start by apologizing... I have not checked into this site for almost 2 years.... However I recieved an email today that someone had sent me a message... When I finally remembered my log in info "thanks CHEWIE", I found a message from a guy who must have thought I wrote something... Sorry... wasnt me....
But I would like to update you all on my progress since November of 2009... I have been dipless... none, naughta, nothing since November 17th.... I had a few scares with mouth sores and scarring or the "healing process"... but other then that life is good...
I have decided to monitor the site and give words of encouragment when needed... Quitting sucks... But after 31 years of chewing I am glad it is behind me....
Good luck to all of those on their journey, Congrats to all who have succeeded and thanks for keeping this site going!
dipshit
(note spelling... I believe a person spelling their user name dippshit has posted stuff... please do not get us confused)
Hey dipshit,
Thanks for checking in on us, but we're doing just fine. You're right, it was probably someone replying to 'dippshit'. He's a very active quitter here.
You can keep your 'luck'. We don't rely on it here. We make a decision every day. We don't 'hope' and we certainly don't 'try'. We do.
It's great that you are quit. You are quit, right? No nicotine? Anyone can stop dipping. If you didn't know, we are a 100% nicotine free site.
If you're interested in encouraging words, and helping hands, let me offer this:
Find your quit group. Jump around and see if you fit here. I think you might find many encouraging words yourself.
Post roll.
It's what we do.
You should learn what it's about.
thanks for clearing that up dipshit. But only 3 total posts since 2009?????
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Hey Folks, First let me start by apologizing... I have not checked into this site for almost 2 years.... However I recieved an email today that someone had sent me a message... When I finally remembered my log in info "thanks CHEWIE", I found a message from a guy who must have thought I wrote something... Sorry... wasnt me....
But I would like to update you all on my progress since November of 2009... I have been dipless... none, naughta, nothing since November 17th.... I had a few scares with mouth sores and scarring or the "healing process"... but other then that life is good...
I have decided to monitor the site and give words of encouragment when needed... Quitting sucks... But after 31 years of chewing I am glad it is behind me....
Good luck to all of those on their journey, Congrats to all who have succeeded and thanks for keeping this site going!
dipshit
(note spelling... I believe a person spelling their user name dippshit has posted stuff... please do not get us confused)
Congrats on two years. Please disregard any email's with picture's of a 260 lb man wearing assless chaps. Those pictures were only intended to be sent to Dippshit. Thanks in advance.
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Wow.... okay.... Well let me start by saying I am 100% nicotine free after chewing for 30 years.... Thats right 100%... So that clears that up... As for me wishing you luck... my apology... Was not aware that such words as "luck" or "hope" have such negative effects...
I am sorry that I succeeded and wanted to share my story to maybe help encourage others as I HAVE BEEN THERE... and I KNOW WHAT ITS LIKE...
I also apologize for not knowing the proper protocal for your site... I do not believe that your response was necessary...
So I apologize again... Maybe I will look into the protocal of the site however if responses are all like yours I do not really need that aggravation in my life....
Thanks for your input and POSITIVE feed back on a support site such as this... Nice job!
Excellent job on 2 years. We certainly can use and welcome support here.
If my response was a little aggressive, well, understand that we do from time to time, get the occasional troll that likes to pop in once every two years or so, spout off about how he's quit 'dipping' cuz he's on the patch, or using snus or some other kinda BS. A guy who joined two years ago and has three posts just smells fishy.
So my response was at best, skeptical.
But my offer still stands. You have walked the walk. We can always use folks to help the new guys walk it as well.
Seriously, check this place out and see if it 'fits'.
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Ok... Got it... Thanks for explaining that... And I totally understand how you may think that and I apologize if it smells fishy... It probably does not show my posts from 2 years ago when I first contacted this site... I plainly admitted that I actually used "Chantix" to quit... But I was worried about the mouth sores etc... and freaking out... I recieved some great advice from this site back than that helped me calm down and let my body heal itself... anyways... I can see where all you may be suspicious... So I am okay with that...
But make no mistake I am who I am... I got the jeans with the circle permanantly in them to prove it... But since November 17th 2009 I have been nicotine free...
I will try to be more active and look to the veterans who have been on here for guidence as to where I should post things and when... So please any "positive" guidence would be appreciated as I have not been an avid user of this site...
Thanks again for the productive reply...
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Hey Folks, First let me start by apologizing... I have not checked into this site for almost 2 years.... However I recieved an email today that someone had sent me a message... When I finally remembered my log in info "thanks CHEWIE", I found a message from a guy who must have thought I wrote something... Sorry... wasnt me....
But I would like to update you all on my progress since November of 2009... I have been dipless... none, naughta, nothing since November 17th.... I had a few scares with mouth sores and scarring or the "healing process"... but other then that life is good...
I have decided to monitor the site and give words of encouragment when needed... Quitting sucks... But after 31 years of chewing I am glad it is behind me....
Good luck to all of those on their journey, Congrats to all who have succeeded and thanks for keeping this site going!
dipshit
(note spelling... I believe a person spelling their user name dippshit has posted stuff... please do not get us confused)
Congrats on two years. Please disregard any email's with picture's of a 260 lb man wearing assless chaps. Those pictures were only intended to be sent to Dippshit. Thanks in advance.
if you only knew steve... if you only knew...
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Hey Folks, First let me start by apologizing... I have not checked into this site for almost 2 years.... However I recieved an email today that someone had sent me a message... When I finally remembered my log in info "thanks CHEWIE", I found a message from a guy who must have thought I wrote something... Sorry... wasnt me....
But I would like to update you all on my progress since November of 2009... I have been dipless... none, naughta, nothing since November 17th.... I had a few scares with mouth sores and scarring or the "healing process"... but other then that life is good...
I have decided to monitor the site and give words of encouragment when needed... Quitting sucks... But after 31 years of chewing I am glad it is behind me....
Good luck to all of those on their journey, Congrats to all who have succeeded and thanks for keeping this site going!
dipshit
(note spelling... I believe a person spelling their user name dippshit has posted stuff... please do not get us confused)
Congrats on two years. Please disregard any email's with picture's of a 260 lb man wearing assless chaps. Those pictures were only intended to be sent to Dippshit. Thanks in advance.
if you only knew steve... if you only knew...
oh, and dipshit, you can forward my mail to me now if you would like. thank you.
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Forwarded your mail... Thanks!
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two dipshitz??? :blink:
Lord have mercy!
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two dipshitz??? :blink:
Lord have mercy!
he is the reason i have two pp's... 'arse'
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two dipshitz??? :blink:
Lord have mercy!
he is the reason i have two pp's... 'arse'
Two pp's! You could be in a movie!
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New blog post: NBC’s Biggest Loser – Short Cuts Galore
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/01/nbcs ... ts-galore/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/01/nbcs-biggest-loser-short-cuts-galore/)
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New blog post: NBC’s Biggest Loser – Short Cuts Galore
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/01/nbcs ... ts-galore/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/01/nbcs-biggest-loser-short-cuts-galore/)
Well done. Well done.
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New blog post:  NBC’s Biggest Loser – Short Cuts Galore
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/01/nbcs ... ts-galore/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/01/nbcs-biggest-loser-short-cuts-galore/)
Well done. Well done.
Very interesting. Using the patch is like putting a band-aid on a gun-shot wound. I hope we hear from Mr. Messina.
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So...let me ask a question.
Have husband and wife teams done this together before, and what has been the outcome?
My wife joined last night at Day 3. I am so very excited for her. She'll be an April HOF'r like me, just a year behind. I know I was a total ass during the Fog...hopefully I can withstand what she had to put up with.
Any history on this?
Quit on.
~Frazz
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Have you guys seen dissolvable tobacco products?
http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2012/01 ... h_stcathdl (http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2012/01/20/145478833/dissolvable-tobacco-products-draw-fda-scrutiny?ps=sh_stcathdl)
I heard this on my drive into work and I cannot believe big tobacco came out with a product like this. I really hope the FDA does something about it.
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Have you guys seen dissolvable tobacco products?
http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2012/01 ... h_stcathdl (http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2012/01/20/145478833/dissolvable-tobacco-products-draw-fda-scrutiny?ps=sh_stcathdl)
I heard this on my drive into work and I cannot believe big tobacco came out with a product like this. I really hope the FDA does something about it.
It would be a huge mistake to make these little nic "candies" available to people.... 'bang head'
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Have you guys seen dissolvable tobacco products?
http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2012/01 ... h_stcathdl (http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2012/01/20/145478833/dissolvable-tobacco-products-draw-fda-scrutiny?ps=sh_stcathdl)
I heard this on my drive into work and I cannot believe big tobacco came out with a product like this. I really hope the FDA does something about it.
It would be a huge mistake to make these little nic "candies" available to people.... 'bang head'
Just another way to maintain people's addictions when they're in areas where they can't dip or smoke!
Bastards! 'Finger'
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So...let me ask a question.
Have husband and wife teams done this together before, and what has been the outcome?
My wife joined last night at Day 3. I am so very excited for her. She'll be an April HOF'r like me, just a year behind. I know I was a total ass during the Fog...hopefully I can withstand what she had to put up with.
Any history on this?
Quit on.
~Frazz
I think Healthy New me in November (?) is married to someone in June 2010 (Allec?)
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Question . . . I've reading my ass off on the interwebs while in my quit and I noticed another website that is damn near the exact format as Kill the Can. What gives? Is there a difference? It seems odd . . . They even post roll as we do and have a hall of fame. I am so confused. . . .anyone know?
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Question . . . I've reading my ass off on the interwebs while in my quit and I noticed another website that is damn near the exact format as Kill the Can. What gives? Is there a difference? It seems odd . . . They even post roll as we do and have a hall of fame. I am so confused. . . .anyone know?
Go to the beginning and learn some history.
index.php?showtopic=210 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=210)
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Question . . . I've reading my ass off on the interwebs while in my quit and I noticed another website that is damn near the exact format as Kill the Can. What gives? Is there a difference? It seems odd . . . They even post roll as we do and have a hall of fame. I am so confused. . . .anyone know?
Go to the beginning and learn some history.
index.php?showtopic=210 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=210)
What happened to Aquaman?
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Question . . . I've reading my ass off on the interwebs while in my quit and I noticed another website that is damn near the exact format as Kill the Can. What gives? Is there a difference? It seems odd . . . They even post roll as we do and have a hall of fame. I am so confused. . . .anyone know?
Go to the beginning and learn some history.
index.php?showtopic=210 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=210)
What happened to Aquaman?
Yep...
Long story short, we didn't like the way things were being run there so we started our own. We're a take no bullshit (more extreme) version.
As an example over yonder, you can post roll while using the patch, nic gum, etc. Here, that's a cave... plain and simple.
chewie
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Hi. I'm new. Day 4. I found my group, posted roll, and have a lay of the land.
I like the no bullshit, no pansy ass method.
I'm in the fog. Someone talk to me for a minute.
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Hi. I'm new. Day 4. I found my group, posted roll, and have a lay of the land.
I like the no bullshit, no pansy ass method.
I'm in the fog. Someone talk to me for a minute.
Are you able to jump into live chat?
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Hi. I'm new. Day 4. I found my group, posted roll, and have a lay of the land.
I like the no bullshit, no pansy ass method.
I'm in the fog. Someone talk to me for a minute.
Moondawg,
I am on day 346...trust me when I tell you it gets much better, real soon. The best advice I can give you for right now is to exercise and if you have trouble sleeping, cut back on caffeine, and grab some melatonex.
Freedom is the shizz my friend!
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Hi. I'm new. Day 4. I found my group, posted roll, and have a lay of the land.
I like the no bullshit, no pansy ass method.
I'm in the fog. Someone talk to me for a minute.
Glad to have you my man... welcome aboard and congrats on getting completely NIC FREE!!!
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Fuckin a. I'm the only person online. Neat. Oh well, I'll talk to myself.
Hey fucker. Hey. Don't think about dip. I'm trying not to. Don't say try. Trying is what pussies do. Ok. Ok what? Ok I won't try. You won't try to what? I won't try not to think about dip. Wait...
Hey Alabama has the best football team in the history of time. I agree with that. Wait, you ARE talking about the TIDE right? Yes, I'm still you. Who's me? Me. Well then who am I? You. But you're you. I'm me. Got it.
Looks like we got this whole forum to ourselves. Yeah. That's cool. Think if it was like this at Gearslutz. Jesus. That place is nuts sometimes. I bet there's not many gearslutz on here. You're crazy. So are you fucker!
This has been neat. I'm gonna have some coffee. Me too. I think you're cool. Fuck yeah I'm cool. But you're a dork. Yeah, I sort of am.
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Fuckin a. I'm the only person online. Neat. Oh well, I'll talk to myself.
Hey fucker. Hey. Don't think about dip. I'm trying not to. Don't say try. Trying is what pussies do. Ok. Ok what? Ok I won't try. You won't try to what? I won't try not to think about dip. Wait...
Hey Alabama has the best football team in the history of time. I agree with that. Wait, you ARE talking about the TIDE right? Yes, I'm still you. Who's me? Me. Well then who am I? You. But you're you. I'm me. Got it.
Looks like we got this whole forum to ourselves. Yeah. That's cool. Think if it was like this at Gearslutz. Jesus. That place is nuts sometimes. I bet there's not many gearslutz on here. You're crazy. So are you fucker!
This has been neat. I'm gonna have some coffee. Me too. I think you're cool. Fuck yeah I'm cool. But you're a dork. Yeah, I sort of am.
^^^ This guy's gonna fit in just fine around here...
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Hi. I'm new. Day 4. I found my group, posted roll, and have a lay of the land.
I like the no bullshit, no pansy ass method.
I'm in the fog. Someone talk to me for a minute.
Are you able to jump into live chat?
There are folks in live chat ready to chat. I let them know you might stop by. Good discussion in there right now on how nicotine creates the problems you now think it relieves. A feller on day 4 is in there as well. Y'all could cross swords if you're in to that.
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Hi. I'm new. Day 4. I found my group, posted roll, and have a lay of the land.
I like the no bullshit, no pansy ass method.
I'm in the fog. Someone talk to me for a minute.
Glad to have you my man... welcome aboard and congrats on getting completely NIC FREE!!!
HEY! I thought i was all alone
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Fuckin a. I'm the only person online. Neat. Oh well, I'll talk to myself.
Hey fucker. Hey. Don't think about dip. I'm trying not to. Don't say try. Trying is what pussies do. Ok. Ok what? Ok I won't try. You won't try to what? I won't try not to think about dip. Wait...
Hey Alabama has the best football team in the history of time. I agree with that. Wait, you ARE talking about the TIDE right? Yes, I'm still you. Who's me? Me. Well then who am I? You. But you're you. I'm me. Got it.
Looks like we got this whole forum to ourselves. Yeah. That's cool. Think if it was like this at Gearslutz. Jesus. That place is nuts sometimes. I bet there's not many gearslutz on here. You're crazy. So are you fucker!
This has been neat. I'm gonna have some coffee. Me too. I think you're cool. Fuck yeah I'm cool. But you're a dork. Yeah, I sort of am.
Damn...we must be separated at birth...I agree with everything you just said... 'crackup'
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When I try live chat, it wants a different L/P than what I have.
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When I try live chat, it wants a different L/P than what I have.
You have to sign up for chat. It's different. But do use your same username as the forum.
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day 2 here...i have this strong desire not to eat because I fear the cravings that will come afterwards. oh well, my fat ass could use a little trimmin down.
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When I try live chat, it wants a different L/P than what I have.
you actually create a user name and password for chat...You are free to use the same as for the site, but you have to create it separately for chat
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When I try live chat, it wants a different L/P than what I have.
you actually create a user name and password for chat...You are free to use the same as for the site, but you have to create it separately for chat
actually, keep the same username.
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Fuckin a. I'm the only person online. Neat. Oh well, I'll talk to myself.
Hey fucker. Hey. Don't think about dip. I'm trying not to. Don't say try. Trying is what pussies do. Ok. Ok what? Ok I won't try. You won't try to what? I won't try not to think about dip. Wait...
Hey Alabama has the best football team in the history of time. I agree with that. Wait, you ARE talking about the TIDE right? Yes, I'm still you. Who's me? Me. Well then who am I? You. But you're you. I'm me. Got it.
Looks like we got this whole forum to ourselves. Yeah. That's cool. Think if it was like this at Gearslutz. Jesus. That place is nuts sometimes. I bet there's not many gearslutz on here. You're crazy. So are you fucker!
This has been neat. I'm gonna have some coffee. Me too. I think you're cool. Fuck yeah I'm cool. But you're a dork. Yeah, I sort of am.
Welcome moon. Most Bama fans I know do talk to themselves, so although I find it odd myself, you'll have great company amongst yourself like Bamadan and Glad.
I agree, Bama is tied as the best team amongst the teams in the LSU-Bama series that remain 1-1.
Geaux Tigers!
And FUBamadan, this avatar is ghey..
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New blog post: 2011 - The Best Of The KTC Blog
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/01/2011 ... -ktc-blog/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/01/2011-the-best-of-the-ktc-blog/)
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When I try live chat, it wants a different L/P than what I have.
You have to sign up for chat. It's different. But do use your same username as the forum.
Do you like the chat site? If so, why? Haven't tried it but curious.
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When I try live chat, it wants a different L/P than what I have.
You have to sign up for chat. It's different. But do use your same username as the forum.
Do you like the chat site? If so, why? Haven't tried it but curious.
It's how you get to know folks. Check it out.
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When I try live chat, it wants a different L/P than what I have.
You have to sign up for chat. It's different. But do use your same username as the forum.
Do you like the chat site? If so, why? Haven't tried it but curious.
It's how you get to know folks. Check it out.
If it weren't for chat, we wouldn't know about tarp's tranny obsession, or gmanns proclivity for the pean...
just sayin...
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When I try live chat, it wants a different L/P than what I have.
You have to sign up for chat. It's different. But do use your same username as the forum.
Do you like the chat site? If so, why? Haven't tried it but curious.
It's how you get to know folks. Check it out.
If it weren't for chat, we wouldn't know about tarp's tranny obsession, or gmanns proclivity for the pean...
just sayin...
gmann has a van...and candy....he hangs out in chat....just sayin....
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When I try live chat, it wants a different L/P than what I have.
You have to sign up for chat. It's different. But do use your same username as the forum.
Do you like the chat site? If so, why? Haven't tried it but curious.
It's how you get to know folks. Check it out.
If it weren't for chat, we wouldn't know about tarp's tranny obsession, or gmanns proclivity for the pean...
just sayin...
gmann has a van...and candy....he hangs out in chat....just sayin....
Good god, I do love me a tranny every so often
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When I try live chat, it wants a different L/P than what I have.
You have to sign up for chat. It's different. But do use your same username as the forum.
Do you like the chat site? If so, why? Haven't tried it but curious.
It's how you get to know folks. Check it out.
If it weren't for chat, we wouldn't know about tarp's tranny obsession, or gmanns proclivity for the pean...
just sayin...
gmann has a van...and candy....he hangs out in chat....just sayin....
And after too many wine coolers he will spill the story of how he met Chris Hansen Dateline NBC...
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Hopefully the right place to post a question? I have depression/anxiety and on Day 28, last 5 days or so its been hardly bareable. I've tried some jogging, was wondering if anyone else has some tips for this 'stage'. I've talked to a few guys here and they say it happens to some of us...
Thanks.
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When I try live chat, it wants a different L/P than what I have.
You have to sign up for chat. It's different. But do use your same username as the forum.
Do you like the chat site? If so, why? Haven't tried it but curious.
It's how you get to know folks. Check it out.
If it weren't for chat, we wouldn't know about tarp's tranny obsession, or gmanns proclivity for the pean...
just sayin...
gmann has a van...and candy....he hangs out in chat....just sayin....
And after too many wine coolers he will spill the story of how he met Chris Hansen Dateline NBC...
5 posts til it turned. Good job.
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Hopefully the right place to post a question? I have depression/anxiety and on Day 28, last 5 days or so its been hardly bareable. I've tried some jogging, was wondering if anyone else has some tips for this 'stage'. I've talked to a few guys here and they say it happens to some of us...
Thanks.
Post roll. Everyday.
Click on that salmon colored link above that says "Welcome Center" to get the why and how.
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Hopefully the right place to post a question? I have depression/anxiety and on Day 28, last 5 days or so its been hardly bareable. I've tried some jogging, was wondering if anyone else has some tips for this 'stage'. I've talked to a few guys here and they say it happens to some of us...
Thanks.
Post roll. Everyday.
Click on that salmon colored link above that says "Welcome Center" to get the why and how.
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yeah, for some of us with depression and anxiety - like me - this month of quit has been a real rollercoaster. the men and women all over this site - vets and newbies - talk about the fog, the irritability, the frustration, the questions. the projection. (it's pretty obvious about the projection whenever newbies start spraying all over vets and vets call them on it and things blow up. it's kind of entertaining actually. the vets say it's a way to keep the quitter focused on something other than the lack of nicotine, the lack of the habit, etc.)
one thing i'm doing is walking - everybody talks about exercise being good - and that seems to help. (i needed to start walking anyway, so this works.) i also come and read what people have written, look at hall of fame speeches. i text back and forth with some other april quitters.
i think PART of what would be good for me to do is to stop doing so MUCH soul-searching. it's like that's all i can do lately. huge questions about work, purpose of life, kids, marriage, calling, direction, health, blah blah blah. I've been going through a tough few years anyway, and The Quit has helped me feel much more confident and hopeful - but the flip side is the increased FEELING. i mean, i just FEEL THINGS more - there's no nicotine haze, no nicotine buzz, no dipping habituation. this is good ... and it's also like being turned to 11.
if the depression/anxiety gets acute or scary, call the doctor immediately. but then if you know you have depression/anxiety, you may already know to do that.
there is much support in this community.
personal message fellow april quitters. they will reach out to you.
get outside. look at the sky. do something. move.
this too shall pass. i promise. no shit.
bluebonnetman
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Need to figure out what group I belong to. This is not my original username on here. I messaged Chewie to send me the info. I need to come clean with my original group first though. Any suggestions? My quit year was 2009.
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Need to figure out what group I belong to. This is not my original username on here. I messaged Chewie to send me the info. I need to come clean with my original group first though. Any suggestions? My quit year was 2009.
Anewman,
While you are waiting to hear back on your user name/ password, you need to figure out if the door is closed this time.
Read about Tom and Jenny Kern here (http://www.caringbridge.org/mn/tomkern/history.htm)...start from the bottom.
There are links to things that helped me along my journey here (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=4385). Maybe somewhere in those links you will find something that resonates, something that makes you finally close the door.
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Need to figure out what group I belong to. This is not my original username on here. I messaged Chewie to send me the info. I need to come clean with my original group first though. Any suggestions? My quit year was 2009.
Anewman,
While you are waiting to hear back on your user name/ password, you need to figure out if the door is closed this time.
Read about Tom and Jenny Kern here (http://www.caringbridge.org/mn/tomkern/history.htm)...start from the bottom.
There are links to things that helped me along my journey here (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=4385). Maybe somewhere in those links you will find something that resonates, something that makes you finally close the door.
do you remember who any of the quitters were in your original group?
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Need to figure out what group I belong to. This is not my original username on here. I messaged Chewie to send me the info. I need to come clean with my original group first though. Any suggestions? My quit year was 2009.
Anewman,
While you are waiting to hear back on your user name/ password, you need to figure out if the door is closed this time.
Read about Tom and Jenny Kern here (http://www.caringbridge.org/mn/tomkern/history.htm)...start from the bottom.
There are links to things that helped me along my journey here (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=4385). Maybe somewhere in those links you will find something that resonates, something that makes you finally close the door.
do you remember who any of the quitters were in your original group?
KodiakDan, Dean the Coot were a couple of the guys I was with I think.
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Need to figure out what group I belong to. This is not my original username on here. I messaged Chewie to send me the info. I need to come clean with my original group first though. Any suggestions? My quit year was 2009.
Anewman,
While you are waiting to hear back on your user name/ password, you need to figure out if the door is closed this time.
Read about Tom and Jenny Kern here (http://www.caringbridge.org/mn/tomkern/history.htm)...start from the bottom.
There are links to things that helped me along my journey here (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=4385). Maybe somewhere in those links you will find something that resonates, something that makes you finally close the door.
do you remember who any of the quitters were in your original group?
KodiakDan, Dean the Coot were a couple of the guys I was with I think.
Any of these look familiar?
June 2009 index.php?s=a...CODE=whot=2172 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?s=&act=Stats&CODE=who&t=2172)
July 2009 index.php?s=a...CODE=whot=2251 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?s=&act=Stats&CODE=who&t=2251)
Looks like dean and kodiakdan were in different groups. It might take a couple of minutes for each link to load.
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Hopefully the right place to post a question? I have depression/anxiety and on Day 28, last 5 days or so its been hardly bareable. I've tried some jogging, was wondering if anyone else has some tips for this 'stage'. I've talked to a few guys here and they say it happens to some of us...
Thanks.
Post roll. Everyday.
Click on that salmon colored link above that says "Welcome Center" to get the why and how.
rated -
yeah, for some of us with depression and anxiety - like me - this month of quit has been a real rollercoaster. the men and women all over this site - vets and newbies - talk about the fog, the irritability, the frustration, the questions. the projection. (it's pretty obvious about the projection whenever newbies start spraying all over vets and vets call them on it and things blow up. it's kind of entertaining actually. the vets say it's a way to keep the quitter focused on something other than the lack of nicotine, the lack of the habit, etc.)
one thing i'm doing is walking - everybody talks about exercise being good - and that seems to help. (i needed to start walking anyway, so this works.) i also come and read what people have written, look at hall of fame speeches. i text back and forth with some other april quitters.
i think PART of what would be good for me to do is to stop doing so MUCH soul-searching. it's like that's all i can do lately. huge questions about work, purpose of life, kids, marriage, calling, direction, health, blah blah blah. I've been going through a tough few years anyway, and The Quit has helped me feel much more confident and hopeful - but the flip side is the increased FEELING. i mean, i just FEEL THINGS more - there's no nicotine haze, no nicotine buzz, no dipping habituation. this is good ... and it's also like being turned to 11.
if the depression/anxiety gets acute or scary, call the doctor immediately. but then if you know you have depression/anxiety, you may already know to do that.
there is much support in this community.
personal message fellow april quitters. they will reach out to you.
get outside. look at the sky. do something. move.
this too shall pass. i promise. no shit.
bluebonnetman
Thanks, this helped a lot. Just at that point where I'm sitting here and I'm not doing ANYTHING. I don't remember what I use to do? I think back and I was like ahh yeah... I'd take out a big dip and just sit here and during that time it didn't matter what I was doing because dipping was SOMETHING.
I can feel it getting better though. 28 days through and day #28 didn't lay down to take a nap from boredom/exhaustion. Day 21-27 though was one roller coaster ride though!!!
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New blog post: Us Vs. Them In A Nutshell
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/01/us-v ... -nutshell/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/01/us-vs-them-in-a-nutshell/)
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Anyone know where I can order a can of Jake's Mint Chew by a can? All I see on the site is rolls. Chewie's review got me interested in trying but don't really want to buy a whole roll if I don't have to. Anyone else have an opinion on the stuff??
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Need to figure out what group I belong to. This is not my original username on here. I messaged Chewie to send me the info. I need to come clean with my original group first though. Any suggestions? My quit year was 2009.
You have the info now...and I see you have posted up in May...time to come clean.
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Note to mods and admins:
As I see it, when you guys moved into your positions you took on a different sort of responsibility to the group. You moved into a role that is primarily that of being caregivers. Sure there always is some giving and receiving in the mutual accountability that is part of KTC, but by definition, your roles make you more givers than receivers.
I’m pointing this out, not because I know better than you, but merely as a warning. Over the past week or two, I’ve seen some of you come close to “burnout.” To avoid getting emotionally exhausted by constantly giving, you will need to keep connected to those who have helped you with your quits. You may even need to ask some special quit friends to be a listening ear for you. Your own personal support base needs to be strengthened or the loneliness of leadership will exacerbate the funks that we addicts all experience.
Long term and effective service to KTC necessitates this healthy balance of giving and receiving. We’ve all seen the “drama queens” who think they deserve everything given to them on a silver platter. They are self destructive. Be careful that you don’t end up in the opposite extreme of getting too caught up in giving that you fail to receive or seek the support that you need.
If this is something that all of you discuss regularly, please excuse my candidness. But IÂ’ve experienced the dysfunction of burnout firsthand and have helped many others to struggle through it. The recovery process can be rough and itÂ’s best to avoid the need if possible.
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Anyone know where I can order a can of Jake's Mint Chew by a can? All I see on the site is rolls. Chewie's review got me interested in trying but don't really want to buy a whole roll if I don't have to. Anyone else have an opinion on the stuff??
Rated, WalMart sells 'Smokey Mountain Wintergreen' which is pretty good. I dipped mint, and this was the easiest/closest to mint I could find and I actually like it.. Pretty good texture to it, isnt dry..
If anyone has a good site they've ordered from, don't be afraid to share the love!!
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Anyone know where I can order a can of Jake's Mint Chew by a can? All I see on the site is rolls. Chewie's review got me interested in trying but don't really want to buy a whole roll if I don't have to. Anyone else have an opinion on the stuff??
Rated, WalMart sells 'Smokey Mountain Wintergreen' which is pretty good. I dipped mint, and this was the easiest/closest to mint I could find and I actually like it.. Pretty good texture to it, isnt dry..
If anyone has a good site they've ordered from, don't be afraid to share the love!!
Yeah, I tried Smokey Mountain as well and LOVE everything about it except... the "energy" boost. I use to dip to relax so I'd rather have something without the guarana. Other than that, it is the best stuff I've tried. Maybe I'll just buy the roll on Jake's site that has each flavor to try..
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Anyone know where I can order a can of Jake's Mint Chew by a can? All I see on the site is rolls. Chewie's review got me interested in trying but don't really want to buy a whole roll if I don't have to. Anyone else have an opinion on the stuff??
Rated, WalMart sells 'Smokey Mountain Wintergreen' which is pretty good. I dipped mint, and this was the easiest/closest to mint I could find and I actually like it.. Pretty good texture to it, isnt dry..
If anyone has a good site they've ordered from, don't be afraid to share the love!!
Yeah, I tried Smokey Mountain as well and LOVE everything about it except... the "energy" boost. I use to dip to relax so I'd rather have something without the guarana. Other than that, it is the best stuff I've tried. Maybe I'll just buy the roll on Jake's site that has each flavor to try..
As far as I know Jake's only comes in rolls. That said, I'll reach out to the owner and see if there's another alternative. Will let you know.
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I'll vouch for Hooch. It's the best I've had, and I've tried most alternatives. It definitely helped me get through some tough times and now I'm one year and three days free, and i still chew Hooch from time to time, especially when I travel. I just went to KC a few weeks ago for work and brought my Hooch.
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Hey guys. So ive been dip free for 32 days now and am still having trouble going to the bathroom. Fiber and exercise seem to help. Im just curious how long can this last?
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Anyone know where I can order a can of Jake's Mint Chew by a can? All I see on the site is rolls. Chewie's review got me interested in trying but don't really want to buy a whole roll if I don't have to. Anyone else have an opinion on the stuff??
Rated, WalMart sells 'Smokey Mountain Wintergreen' which is pretty good. I dipped mint, and this was the easiest/closest to mint I could find and I actually like it.. Pretty good texture to it, isnt dry..
If anyone has a good site they've ordered from, don't be afraid to share the love!!
Yeah, I tried Smokey Mountain as well and LOVE everything about it except... the "energy" boost. I use to dip to relax so I'd rather have something without the guarana. Other than that, it is the best stuff I've tried. Maybe I'll just buy the roll on Jake's site that has each flavor to try..
As far as I know Jake's only comes in rolls. That said, I'll reach out to the owner and see if there's another alternative. Will let you know.
That would be awesome.. Also, when you contact him can you ask him if there is a different method of paying, or if he will accept an Australian CC.. (obviously I don't have a US cc and cant buy online).. Appreciate it!!
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Anyone know where I can order a can of Jake's Mint Chew by a can? All I see on the site is rolls. Chewie's review got me interested in trying but don't really want to buy a whole roll if I don't have to. Anyone else have an opinion on the stuff??
Rated, WalMart sells 'Smokey Mountain Wintergreen' which is pretty good. I dipped mint, and this was the easiest/closest to mint I could find and I actually like it.. Pretty good texture to it, isnt dry..
If anyone has a good site they've ordered from, don't be afraid to share the love!!
Yeah, I tried Smokey Mountain as well and LOVE everything about it except... the "energy" boost. I use to dip to relax so I'd rather have something without the guarana. Other than that, it is the best stuff I've tried. Maybe I'll just buy the roll on Jake's site that has each flavor to try..
As far as I know Jake's only comes in rolls. That said, I'll reach out to the owner and see if there's another alternative. Will let you know.
That would be awesome.. Also, when you contact him can you ask him if there is a different method of paying, or if he will accept an Australian CC.. (obviously I don't have a US cc and cant buy online).. Appreciate it!!
You don't need to pay for fake man. Just take a pinch of koala bear shit.
I used fake for first few months. Jake's is a good change of pace. In fact, between hooch, Smokey and jakes, it's hard to pick a fave because they're all so different.
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Anyone know where I can order a can of Jake's Mint Chew by a can? All I see on the site is rolls. Chewie's review got me interested in trying but don't really want to buy a whole roll if I don't have to. Anyone else have an opinion on the stuff??
Rated, WalMart sells 'Smokey Mountain Wintergreen' which is pretty good. I dipped mint, and this was the easiest/closest to mint I could find and I actually like it.. Pretty good texture to it, isnt dry..
If anyone has a good site they've ordered from, don't be afraid to share the love!!
Yeah, I tried Smokey Mountain as well and LOVE everything about it except... the "energy" boost. I use to dip to relax so I'd rather have something without the guarana. Other than that, it is the best stuff I've tried. Maybe I'll just buy the roll on Jake's site that has each flavor to try..
As far as I know Jake's only comes in rolls. That said, I'll reach out to the owner and see if there's another alternative. Will let you know.
That would be awesome.. Also, when you contact him can you ask him if there is a different method of paying, or if he will accept an Australian CC.. (obviously I don't have a US cc and cant buy online).. Appreciate it!!
You don't need to pay for fake man. Just take a pinch of koala bear shit.
I used fake for first few months. Jake's is a good change of pace. In fact, between hooch, Smokey and jakes, it's hard to pick a fave because they're all so different.
Is that the trick is it gmann..?? If it is, I'm on the next plane home to get me a scoop of koala shit.. Hahaha! If I had a $ for every Australian joke, I'd be a fucking millionaire!
I actually need to slow down on the fake, I need to get out of the habit of the oral gratification..
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Sort of a new thread here, but I was curious: anyone have an issue where safari (iPad) will just sudnly close without warning. It seems to happen when writing a pm or post reply. All my earth shaking genius just goes POOF! Haven't noticed this on any other site.
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Sort of a new thread here, but I was curious: anyone have an issue where safari (iPad) will just sudnly close without warning. It seems to happen when writing a pm or post reply. All my earth shaking genius just goes POOF! Haven't noticed this on any other site.
At times . . . But I shut her down and when it rebooted, it seemed to fix 'er.
Can you do chat on iPad? I don't seem to be able to.
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Sort of a new thread here, but I was curious: anyone have an issue where safari (iPad) will just sudnly close without warning. It seems to happen when writing a pm or post reply. All my earth shaking genius just goes POOF! Haven't noticed this on any other site.
At times . . . But I shut her down and when it rebooted, it seemed to fix 'er.
Can you do chat on iPad? I don't seem to be able to.
No... chat is flash based so you can't access it on an Apple product (iPad, iPhone, etc.)
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Sort of a new thread here, but I was curious: anyone have an issue where safari (iPad) will just sudnly close without warning.  It seems to happen when writing a pm or post reply. All my earth shaking genius just goes POOF!  Haven't noticed this on any other site.
At times . . . But I shut her down and when it rebooted, it seemed to fix 'er.
Can you do chat on iPad? I don't seem to be able to.
No... chat is flash based so you can't access it on an Apple product (iPad, iPhone, etc.)
Yes. Safari closes without warning. I've lost several self-important manifestos I was hammering out over in the politics thread.
Question: how do I turn off my iPad? Is that the suggested method of fix?
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Sort of a new thread here, but I was curious: anyone have an issue where safari (iPad) will just sudnly close without warning.  It seems to happen when writing a pm or post reply. All my earth shaking genius just goes POOF!  Haven't noticed this on any other site.
At times . . . But I shut her down and when it rebooted, it seemed to fix 'er.
Can you do chat on iPad? I don't seem to be able to.
No... chat is flash based so you can't access it on an Apple product (iPad, iPhone, etc.)
Yes. Safari closes without warning. I've lost several self-important manifestos I was hammering out over in the politics thread.
Question: how do I turn off my iPad? Is that the suggested method of fix?
Hold down the little button on the right side opposite the end with the center button. Holding it down will bring up the turn off iPad option. Slide yes and it will shut down. Repeat to turn on.
This is for the iPad 2.
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Sort of a new thread here, but I was curious: anyone have an issue where safari (iPad) will just sudnly close without warning.  It seems to happen when writing a pm or post reply. All my earth shaking genius just goes POOF!  Haven't noticed this on any other site.
At times . . . But I shut her down and when it rebooted, it seemed to fix 'er.
Can you do chat on iPad? I don't seem to be able to.
No... chat is flash based so you can't access it on an Apple product (iPad, iPhone, etc.)
Yes. Safari closes without warning. I've lost several self-important manifestos I was hammering out over in the politics thread.
Question: how do I turn off my iPad? Is that the suggested method of fix?
Hold down the little button on the right side opposite the end with the center button. Holding it down will bring up the turn off iPad option. Slide yes and it will shut down. Repeat to turn on.
This is for the iPad 2.
I didn't even think about it. Same as iphone, so makes sense. Duh.
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Sort of a new thread here, but I was curious: anyone have an issue where safari (iPad) will just sudnly close without warning.  It seems to happen when writing a pm or post reply. All my earth shaking genius just goes POOF!  Haven't noticed this on any other site.
At times . . . But I shut her down and when it rebooted, it seemed to fix 'er.
Can you do chat on iPad? I don't seem to be able to.
No... chat is flash based so you can't access it on an Apple product (iPad, iPhone, etc.)
Yes. Safari closes without warning. I've lost several self-important manifestos I was hammering out over in the politics thread.
Question: how do I turn off my iPad? Is that the suggested method of fix?
Hold down the little button on the right side opposite the end with the center button. Holding it down will bring up the turn off iPad option. Slide yes and it will shut down. Repeat to turn on.
This is for the iPad 2.
I didn't even think about it. Same as iphone, so makes sense. Duh.
Just to throw in another wrench, Atomic Web browser (emulating firefox) crashes the same way.
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Sort of a new thread here, but I was curious: anyone have an issue where safari (iPad) will just sudnly close without warning.  It seems to happen when writing a pm or post reply. All my earth shaking genius just goes POOF!  Haven't noticed this on any other site.
At times . . . But I shut her down and when it rebooted, it seemed to fix 'er.
Can you do chat on iPad? I don't seem to be able to.
No... chat is flash based so you can't access it on an Apple product (iPad, iPhone, etc.)
Yes. Safari closes without warning. I've lost several self-important manifestos I was hammering out over in the politics thread.
Question: how do I turn off my iPad? Is that the suggested method of fix?
Hold down the little button on the right side opposite the end with the center button. Holding it down will bring up the turn off iPad option. Slide yes and it will shut down. Repeat to turn on.
This is for the iPad 2.
I didn't even think about it. Same as iphone, so makes sense. Duh.
Just to throw in another wrench, Atomic Web browser (emulating firefox) crashes the same way.
Yes, my iPhone and iPad both crash while posting in Safari. Restarting does not seem to help. Been trying Opera mini, but too soon too comment.
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Sort of a new thread here, but I was curious: anyone have an issue where safari (iPad) will just sudnly close without warning.  It seems to happen when writing a pm or post reply. All my earth shaking genius just goes POOF!  Haven't noticed this on any other site.
At times . . . But I shut her down and when it rebooted, it seemed to fix 'er.
Can you do chat on iPad? I don't seem to be able to.
No... chat is flash based so you can't access it on an Apple product (iPad, iPhone, etc.)
Yes. Safari closes without warning. I've lost several self-important manifestos I was hammering out over in the politics thread.
Question: how do I turn off my iPad? Is that the suggested method of fix?
Hold down the little button on the right side opposite the end with the center button. Holding it down will bring up the turn off iPad option. Slide yes and it will shut down. Repeat to turn on.
This is for the iPad 2.
I didn't even think about it. Same as iphone, so makes sense. Duh.
Just to throw in another wrench, Atomic Web browser (emulating firefox) crashes the same way.
Yes, my iPhone and iPad both crash while posting in Safari. Restarting does not seem to help. Been trying Opera mini, but too soon too comment.
I just recently got the iPad. I annotated a large PDF in iannotate and emailed it to myself. Now it's stuck in the outbox and I can't delete it and it won't go away when I reboot. Any ideas?
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Sort of a new thread here, but I was curious: anyone have an issue where safari (iPad) will just sudnly close without warning.  It seems to happen when writing a pm or post reply. All my earth shaking genius just goes POOF!  Haven't noticed this on any other site.
At times . . . But I shut her down and when it rebooted, it seemed to fix 'er.
Can you do chat on iPad? I don't seem to be able to.
No... chat is flash based so you can't access it on an Apple product (iPad, iPhone, etc.)
'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head'
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
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Sort of a new thread here, but I was curious: anyone have an issue where safari (iPad) will just sudnly close without warning.  It seems to happen when writing a pm or post reply. All my earth shaking genius just goes POOF!  Haven't noticed this on any other site.
At times . . . But I shut her down and when it rebooted, it seemed to fix 'er.
Can you do chat on iPad? I don't seem to be able to.
No... chat is flash based so you can't access it on an Apple product (iPad, iPhone, etc.)
'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head'
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
Yeah, that sucks balls.
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Question about avatars . . . .where's the best place to get them. gmann's is super cool.
Mine's a freaking clover. I gotta get cooler than that.
Suggestions??
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Anyone know where I can order a can of Jake's Mint Chew by a can? All I see on the site is rolls. Chewie's review got me interested in trying but don't really want to buy a whole roll if I don't have to. Anyone else have an opinion on the stuff??
Rated, WalMart sells 'Smokey Mountain Wintergreen' which is pretty good. I dipped mint, and this was the easiest/closest to mint I could find and I actually like it.. Pretty good texture to it, isnt dry..
If anyone has a good site they've ordered from, don't be afraid to share the love!!
Yeah, I tried Smokey Mountain as well and LOVE everything about it except... the "energy" boost. I use to dip to relax so I'd rather have something without the guarana. Other than that, it is the best stuff I've tried. Maybe I'll just buy the roll on Jake's site that has each flavor to try..
As far as I know Jake's only comes in rolls. That said, I'll reach out to the owner and see if there's another alternative. Will let you know.
Sweet deal! Thanks Chewie.
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Question about avatars . . . .where's the best place to get them. gmann's is super cool.
Mine's a freaking clover. I gotta get cooler than that.
Suggestions??
Google "something" + avatar.
Like if I loved Spiderman.
Spiderman Avatar
Find a pic I like. Copy paste link.
Kaboom!
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The enemy is getting rich off of selling poison to people.
http://www.altria.com/en/cms/company_an ... Id=1653554 (http://www.altria.com/en/cms/company_announcements/announcement.aspx?src=press_releases&reqId=1653554)
Let's HURT them this year!
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The enemy is getting rich off of selling poison to people.
http://www.altria.com/en/cms/company_an ... Id=1653554 (http://www.altria.com/en/cms/company_announcements/announcement.aspx?src=press_releases&reqId=1653554)
Let's HURT them this year!
189 Million cans of smokeless!!
Taking a look at this report will show you why this poison is legal. Money talks!
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Hey guys! Got my Jake's Mint Chew. I wrote a bit about it and made a video so everyone could see. Sorry I'm not the greatest person to watch or listen to but hopefully it gives some guys an idea what the stuff is since there isn't much info about it. It's personally my favorite!!
Check out the vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrkKW9LXo7o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrkKW9LXo7o)
I'd rather dip this the rest of my life if I have to then deal with the nic bitch! STAY QUIT!
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Jake's Mint Chew
It's drier than the other herbal chews out there. I'm comparing it to Smokey Mountain since most have tried that. Doesn't have the cayenne pepper or guarana, still has a little tingle in the lip though. No need to pack, its very easy to get a pinch. NO MESS AT ALL which is a big plus as the others are sticky.
The feeling in the lip is perfect, doesn't fall apart (I'm on 30 min. right now with the same dip, stays together better than the real thing). There is only a *hint* of wintergreen flavor which is the biggest downfall. Smokey Mountain has it beat on taste but it still doesn't have a *bad* taste either. It's just not as good as Smokey Mountain in this 1 area.
For me, this is a 9/10. Only thing that would make it a 10 would be taking Smokey Mountain's flavor.
Wintergreen - slight taste of wintergreen, can taste mint after a little while.
Cherry - can taste slight bit of cherry but like most fruity gums, it runs out of flavor FAST then it has no taste. Don't recommend this one.
Cinnamon - this is for the people that love the burn/tingle feel!! It tastes like a stick of big red but not quite as strong... the burn is the same but feels like tobacco. I also like it because it doesn't make me want the real thing at all. One person said they couldn't chew this because it was too close to the same well, I dont recall a cinnamon chew so this would be one I'd recommend...for everyone.
I have "Licorice", "Mint Straight", and "Spearmint" to try as well. I'll give flavor reviews for them after I try them.
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Sort of a new thread here, but I was curious: anyone have an issue where safari (iPad) will just sudnly close without warning.  It seems to happen when writing a pm or post reply. All my earth shaking genius just goes POOF!  Haven't noticed this on any other site.
At times . . . But I shut her down and when it rebooted, it seemed to fix 'er.
Can you do chat on iPad? I don't seem to be able to.
No... chat is flash based so you can't access it on an Apple product (iPad, iPhone, etc.)
Yes. Safari closes without warning. I've lost several self-important manifestos I was hammering out over in the politics thread.
Question: how do I turn off my iPad? Is that the suggested method of fix?
Hold down the little button on the right side opposite the end with the center button. Holding it down will bring up the turn off iPad option. Slide yes and it will shut down. Repeat to turn on.
This is for the iPad 2.
I didn't even think about it. Same as iphone, so makes sense. Duh.
Just to throw in another wrench, Atomic Web browser (emulating firefox) crashes the same way.
Yes, my iPhone and iPad both crash while posting in Safari. Restarting does not seem to help. Been trying Opera mini, but too soon too comment.
I just recently got the iPad. I annotated a large PDF in iannotate and emailed it to myself. Now it's stuck in the outbox and I can't delete it and it won't go away when I reboot. Any ideas?
Get an Otterbox Defender for it so you won't damage it when you throw it. That's my solution for the iPhone so far anyways.
*my second retype of this comment due to Safari crashing*
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Sort of a new thread here, but I was curious: anyone have an issue where safari (iPad) will just sudnly close without warning.  It seems to happen when writing a pm or post reply. All my earth shaking genius just goes POOF!  Haven't noticed this on any other site.
At times . . . But I shut her down and when it rebooted, it seemed to fix 'er.
Can you do chat on iPad? I don't seem to be able to.
No... chat is flash based so you can't access it on an Apple product (iPad, iPhone, etc.)
Yes. Safari closes without warning. I've lost several self-important manifestos I was hammering out over in the politics thread.
Question: how do I turn off my iPad? Is that the suggested method of fix?
Hold down the little button on the right side opposite the end with the center button. Holding it down will bring up the turn off iPad option. Slide yes and it will shut down. Repeat to turn on.
This is for the iPad 2.
I didn't even think about it. Same as iphone, so makes sense. Duh.
Just to throw in another wrench, Atomic Web browser (emulating firefox) crashes the same way.
Yes, my iPhone and iPad both crash while posting in Safari. Restarting does not seem to help. Been trying Opera mini, but too soon too comment.
I just recently got the iPad. I annotated a large PDF in iannotate and emailed it to myself. Now it's stuck in the outbox and I can't delete it and it won't go away when I reboot. Any ideas?
Get an Otterbox Defender for it so you won't damage it when you throw it. That's my solution for the iPhone so far anyways.
*my second retype of this comment due to Safari crashing*
It must have something to do with the mobile version of Safari because I haven't had this issues posting with Safari on my Mac. I haven't tried posting with the iphone.
Haha Yota, I also have the Otterbox case for my phone because it gets tossed pretty often. I have a love/hate relationship with Apple.
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Anyone know how to get to the wildcard section... cant seem to find it anywhere
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Anyone know how to get to the wildcard section... cant seem to find it anywhere
index.php?showforum=11 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=11)
Cost of admission is quit...
Good to see you sir.
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Anyone know how to get to the wildcard section... cant seem to find it anywhere
index.php?showforum=11 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=11)
Cost of admission is quit...
Good to see you sir.
How do I get there without using the link? Good to see you too buddy
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Anyone know how to get to the wildcard section... cant seem to find it anywhere
index.php?showforum=11 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=11)
Cost of admission is quit...
Good to see you sir.
How do I get there without using the link? Good to see you too buddy
Go to the main page, scroll down to where it says "NON DIPPING DISCUSSIONS" and you should see it in there.
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Anyone know how to get to the wildcard section... cant seem to find it anywhere
index.php?showforum=11 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=11)
Cost of admission is quit...
Good to see you sir.
How do I get there without using the link? Good to see you too buddy
Go to the main page, scroll down to where it says "NON DIPPING DISCUSSIONS" and you should see it in there.
You're member #31 and can't find the wildcard thread?
No wonder you posted a smooth day 1 in may 12.
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Anyone know how to get to the wildcard section... cant seem to find it anywhere
index.php?showforum=11 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=11)
Cost of admission is quit...
Good to see you sir.
How do I get there without using the link? Good to see you too buddy
Go to the main page, scroll down to where it says "NON DIPPING DISCUSSIONS" and you should see it in there.
You're member #31 and can't find the wildcard thread?
No wonder you posted a smooth day 1 in may 12.
Oh, he's posted "smooth" day 1's in many quit groups.
I bet he still wonders why success is elusive.
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Anyone know how to get to the wildcard section... cant seem to find it anywhere
index.php?showforum=11 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=11)
Cost of admission is quit...
Good to see you sir.
How do I get there without using the link? Good to see you too buddy
Go to the main page, scroll down to where it says "NON DIPPING DISCUSSIONS" and you should see it in there.
You're member #31 and can't find the wildcard thread?
No wonder you posted a smooth day 1 in may 12.
Oh, he's posted "smooth" day 1's in many quit groups.
I bet he still wonders why success is elusive.
Some people make things happen. Some people watch things happen. Some people wonder what happened.
When it comes to quitting, I know which category I'm in. It sounds like Highway is a wondering spectator.
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Anyone know how to get to the wildcard section... cant seem to find it anywhere
index.php?showforum=11 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=11)
Cost of admission is quit...
Good to see you sir.
How do I get there without using the link? Good to see you too buddy
Go to the main page, scroll down to where it says "NON DIPPING DISCUSSIONS" and you should see it in there.
You're member #31 and can't find the wildcard thread?
No wonder you posted a smooth day 1 in may 12.
Oh, he's posted "smooth" day 1's in many quit groups.
I bet he still wonders why success is elusive.
Some people make things happen. Some people watch things happen. Some people wonder what happened.
When it comes to quitting, I know which category I'm in. It sounds like Highway is a wondering spectator.
Well this was a good start fellas... nice to meet you too
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Anyone know how to get to the wildcard section... cant seem to find it anywhere
index.php?showforum=11 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=11)
Cost of admission is quit...
Good to see you sir.
How do I get there without using the link? Good to see you too buddy
Go to the main page, scroll down to where it says "NON DIPPING DISCUSSIONS" and you should see it in there.
You're member #31 and can't find the wildcard thread?
No wonder you posted a smooth day 1 in may 12.
Oh, he's posted "smooth" day 1's in many quit groups.
I bet he still wonders why success is elusive.
Some people make things happen. Some people watch things happen. Some people wonder what happened.
When it comes to quitting, I know which category I'm in. It sounds like Highway is a wondering spectator.
Well this was a good start fellas... nice to meet you too
Ive met you damn every time you came crawling back to this site after caving.
In fact, I'm sick of meeting you.
Plan on doing any quitting, or following any advice this time, or do you plan to just come in here and talk some shit for a while and then being on your way with a fat lip once again?
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Anyone know how to get to the wildcard section... cant seem to find it anywhere
index.php?showforum=11 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=11)
Cost of admission is quit...
Good to see you sir.
How do I get there without using the link? Good to see you too buddy
Go to the main page, scroll down to where it says "NON DIPPING DISCUSSIONS" and you should see it in there.
You're member #31 and can't find the wildcard thread?
No wonder you posted a smooth day 1 in may 12.
Oh, he's posted "smooth" day 1's in many quit groups.
I bet he still wonders why success is elusive.
Some people make things happen. Some people watch things happen. Some people wonder what happened.
When it comes to quitting, I know which category I'm in. It sounds like Highway is a wondering spectator.
Well this was a good start fellas... nice to meet you too
Ive met you damn every time you came crawling back to this site after caving.
In fact, I'm sick of meeting you.
Plan on doing any quitting, or following any advice this time, or do you plan to just come in here and talk some shit for a while and then being on your way with a fat lip once again?
Forgive me for not rolling out the red carpet for a retread caver. May 12 is a strong group. You need them a helluva lot more than they need you.
PS - If you're looking to eschew accountability, there's this other site....
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Anyone know how to get to the wildcard section... cant seem to find it anywhere
index.php?showforum=11 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=11)
Cost of admission is quit...
Good to see you sir.
How do I get there without using the link? Good to see you too buddy
Go to the main page, scroll down to where it says "NON DIPPING DISCUSSIONS" and you should see it in there.
You're member #31 and can't find the wildcard thread?
No wonder you posted a smooth day 1 in may 12.
Oh, he's posted "smooth" day 1's in many quit groups.
I bet he still wonders why success is elusive.
Some people make things happen. Some people watch things happen. Some people wonder what happened.
When it comes to quitting, I know which category I'm in. It sounds like Highway is a wondering spectator.
Well this was a good start fellas... nice to meet you too
Ive met you damn every time you came crawling back to this site after caving.
In fact, I'm sick of meeting you.
Plan on doing any quitting, or following any advice this time, or do you plan to just come in here and talk some shit for a while and then being on your way with a fat lip once again?
Forgive me for not rolling out the red carpet for a retread caver. May 12 is a strong group. You need them a helluva lot more than they need you.
PS - If you're looking to eschew accountability, there's this other site....
I love Jesus
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Anyone know how to get to the wildcard section... cant seem to find it anywhere
index.php?showforum=11 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=11)
Cost of admission is quit...
Good to see you sir.
How do I get there without using the link? Good to see you too buddy
Go to the main page, scroll down to where it says "NON DIPPING DISCUSSIONS" and you should see it in there.
You're member #31 and can't find the wildcard thread?
No wonder you posted a smooth day 1 in may 12.
Oh, he's posted "smooth" day 1's in many quit groups.
I bet he still wonders why success is elusive.
Some people make things happen. Some people watch things happen. Some people wonder what happened.
When it comes to quitting, I know which category I'm in. It sounds like Highway is a wondering spectator.
Well this was a good start fellas... nice to meet you too
Ive met you damn every time you came crawling back to this site after caving.
In fact, I'm sick of meeting you.
Plan on doing any quitting, or following any advice this time, or do you plan to just come in here and talk some shit for a while and then being on your way with a fat lip once again?
Forgive me for not rolling out the red carpet for a retread caver. May 12 is a strong group. You need them a helluva lot more than they need you.
PS - If you're looking to eschew accountability, there's this other site....
I love Jesus
Sorry but if I may...
How many times have we all tried quitting and FAILED? I know I'm just a newbie to this site but away from it I have tried time and time again. This site has helped me shit tons and its great but I am probably on attempt 20 something right now.
You don't know this guy's story. I had different reasons for caving each time and it sucked ass. I don't thing the guy needs more people telling him how much he blows because he can't beat it.
He keeps coming back here for help. Some people never try to quit, at least he's making an attempt even if it has been weak in the past.
Let's face it, we have all been there. For fuck sake just ignore him if you can't get past the fact that he's failed. We have all fucking failed at a lot in our lives, no one is perfect, stop acting like you all are.
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Anyone know how to get to the wildcard section... cant seem to find it anywhere
index.php?showforum=11 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=11)
Cost of admission is quit...
Good to see you sir.
How do I get there without using the link? Good to see you too buddy
Go to the main page, scroll down to where it says "NON DIPPING DISCUSSIONS" and you should see it in there.
You're member #31 and can't find the wildcard thread?
No wonder you posted a smooth day 1 in may 12.
Oh, he's posted "smooth" day 1's in many quit groups.
I bet he still wonders why success is elusive.
Some people make things happen. Some people watch things happen. Some people wonder what happened.
When it comes to quitting, I know which category I'm in. It sounds like Highway is a wondering spectator.
Well this was a good start fellas... nice to meet you too
Ive met you damn every time you came crawling back to this site after caving.
In fact, I'm sick of meeting you.
Plan on doing any quitting, or following any advice this time, or do you plan to just come in here and talk some shit for a while and then being on your way with a fat lip once again?
Forgive me for not rolling out the red carpet for a retread caver. May 12 is a strong group. You need them a helluva lot more than they need you.
PS - If you're looking to eschew accountability, there's this other site....
I love Jesus
Sorry but if I may...
How many times have we all tried quitting and FAILED? I know I'm just a newbie to this site but away from it I have tried time and time again. This site has helped me shit tons and its great but I am probably on attempt 20 something right now.
You don't know this guy's story. I had different reasons for caving each time and it sucked ass. I don't thing the guy needs more people telling him how much he blows because he can't beat it.
He keeps coming back here for help. Some people never try to quit, at least he's making an attempt even if it has been weak in the past.
Let's face it, we have all been there. For fuck sake just ignore him if you can't get past the fact that he's failed. We have all fucking failed at a lot in our lives, no one is perfect, stop acting like you all are.
index.php?showtopic=5937 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=5937)
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Anyone know how to get to the wildcard section... cant seem to find it anywhere
index.php?showforum=11 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=11)
Cost of admission is quit...
Good to see you sir.
How do I get there without using the link? Good to see you too buddy
Go to the main page, scroll down to where it says "NON DIPPING DISCUSSIONS" and you should see it in there.
You're member #31 and can't find the wildcard thread?
No wonder you posted a smooth day 1 in may 12.
Oh, he's posted "smooth" day 1's in many quit groups.
I bet he still wonders why success is elusive.
Some people make things happen. Some people watch things happen. Some people wonder what happened.
When it comes to quitting, I know which category I'm in. It sounds like Highway is a wondering spectator.
Well this was a good start fellas... nice to meet you too
Ive met you damn every time you came crawling back to this site after caving.
In fact, I'm sick of meeting you.
Plan on doing any quitting, or following any advice this time, or do you plan to just come in here and talk some shit for a while and then being on your way with a fat lip once again?
Forgive me for not rolling out the red carpet for a retread caver. May 12 is a strong group. You need them a helluva lot more than they need you.
PS - If you're looking to eschew accountability, there's this other site....
I love Jesus
Sorry but if I may...
How many times have we all tried quitting and FAILED? I know I'm just a newbie to this site but away from it I have tried time and time again. This site has helped me shit tons and its great but I am probably on attempt 20 something right now.
You don't know this guy's story. I had different reasons for caving each time and it sucked ass. I don't thing the guy needs more people telling him how much he blows because he can't beat it.
He keeps coming back here for help. Some people never try to quit, at least he's making an attempt even if it has been weak in the past.
Let's face it, we have all been there. For fuck sake just ignore him if you can't get past the fact that he's failed. We have all fucking failed at a lot in our lives, no one is perfect, stop acting like you all are.
You're in the wrong place, RKO. We don't try or attempt here, we quit.
You know how I know his excuses weren't good enough? No excuse is good enough. I will not dip no matter what. There is no reason to dip, it doesnt solve anything. It just causes slavery and cancer.
If we all had your (shitty) attitude, this site would be full of cavers, not quitters. As a matter fact, there is another site just like that. You may find it more to your liking. It does seem like your goal is to try, whereas ours is to succeed.
As far as 48, dude is a troll. He stops by here every so often, floods the site with nonsense, and then disappears. Wait a bit, then he'll come back and do it all over. He won't succeed until his attitude changes, which by the smartassedness I've seen so far, it hasn't. That tells me he isn here to quit, just stir up more shit, in which case we don't need him.
You, sir, need an attitude change yourself (if success is your goal). Continue taking up for failure if you like, but I'd suggest following success instead.
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Anyone know how to get to the wildcard section... cant seem to find it anywhere
index.php?showforum=11 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=11)
Cost of admission is quit...
Good to see you sir.
How do I get there without using the link? Good to see you too buddy
Go to the main page, scroll down to where it says "NON DIPPING DISCUSSIONS" and you should see it in there.
You're member #31 and can't find the wildcard thread?
No wonder you posted a smooth day 1 in may 12.
Oh, he's posted "smooth" day 1's in many quit groups.
I bet he still wonders why success is elusive.
Some people make things happen. Some people watch things happen. Some people wonder what happened.
When it comes to quitting, I know which category I'm in. It sounds like Highway is a wondering spectator.
Well this was a good start fellas... nice to meet you too
Ive met you damn every time you came crawling back to this site after caving.
In fact, I'm sick of meeting you.
Plan on doing any quitting, or following any advice this time, or do you plan to just come in here and talk some shit for a while and then being on your way with a fat lip once again?
Forgive me for not rolling out the red carpet for a retread caver. May 12 is a strong group. You need them a helluva lot more than they need you.
PS - If you're looking to eschew accountability, there's this other site....
I love Jesus
Sorry but if I may...
How many times have we all tried quitting and FAILED? I know I'm just a newbie to this site but away from it I have tried time and time again. This site has helped me shit tons and its great but I am probably on attempt 20 something right now.
You don't know this guy's story. I had different reasons for caving each time and it sucked ass. I don't thing the guy needs more people telling him how much he blows because he can't beat it.
He keeps coming back here for help. Some people never try to quit, at least he's making an attempt even if it has been weak in the past.
Let's face it, we have all been there. For fuck sake just ignore him if you can't get past the fact that he's failed. We have all fucking failed at a lot in our lives, no one is perfect, stop acting like you all are.
You're in the wrong place, RKO. We don't try or attempt here, we quit.
You know how I know his excuses weren't good enough? No excuse is good enough. I will not dip no matter what. There is no reason to dip, it doesnt solve anything. It just causes slavery and cancer.
If we all had your (shitty) attitude, this site would be full of cavers, not quitters. As a matter fact, there is another site just like that. You may find it more to your liking. It does seem like your goal is to try, whereas ours is to succeed.
As far as 48, dude is a troll. He stops by here every so often, floods the site with nonsense, and then disappears. Wait a bit, then he'll come back and do it all over. He won't succeed until his attitude changes, which by the smartassedness I've seen so far, it hasn't. That tells me he isn here to quit, just stir up more shit, in which case we don't need him.
You, sir, need an attitude change yourself (if success is your goal). Continue taking up for failure if you like, but I'd suggest following success instead.
Can we get an AMEN BROTHER. Spoken like a true quitter.
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Anyone know how to get to the wildcard section... cant seem to find it anywhere
index.php?showforum=11 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=11)
Cost of admission is quit...
Good to see you sir.
How do I get there without using the link? Good to see you too buddy
Go to the main page, scroll down to where it says "NON DIPPING DISCUSSIONS" and you should see it in there.
You're member #31 and can't find the wildcard thread?
No wonder you posted a smooth day 1 in may 12.
Oh, he's posted "smooth" day 1's in many quit groups.
I bet he still wonders why success is elusive.
Some people make things happen. Some people watch things happen. Some people wonder what happened.
When it comes to quitting, I know which category I'm in. It sounds like Highway is a wondering spectator.
Well this was a good start fellas... nice to meet you too
Ive met you damn every time you came crawling back to this site after caving.
In fact, I'm sick of meeting you.
Plan on doing any quitting, or following any advice this time, or do you plan to just come in here and talk some shit for a while and then being on your way with a fat lip once again?
Forgive me for not rolling out the red carpet for a retread caver. May 12 is a strong group. You need them a helluva lot more than they need you.
PS - If you're looking to eschew accountability, there's this other site....
I love Jesus
Sorry but if I may...
How many times have we all tried quitting and FAILED? I know I'm just a newbie to this site but away from it I have tried time and time again. This site has helped me shit tons and its great but I am probably on attempt 20 something right now.
You don't know this guy's story. I had different reasons for caving each time and it sucked ass. I don't thing the guy needs more people telling him how much he blows because he can't beat it.
He keeps coming back here for help. Some people never try to quit, at least he's making an attempt even if it has been weak in the past.
Let's face it, we have all been there. For fuck sake just ignore him if you can't get past the fact that he's failed. We have all fucking failed at a lot in our lives, no one is perfect, stop acting like you all are.
You're in the wrong place, RKO. We don't try or attempt here, we quit.
You know how I know his excuses weren't good enough? No excuse is good enough. I will not dip no matter what. There is no reason to dip, it doesnt solve anything. It just causes slavery and cancer.
If we all had your (shitty) attitude, this site would be full of cavers, not quitters. As a matter fact, there is another site just like that. You may find it more to your liking. It does seem like your goal is to try, whereas ours is to succeed.
As far as 48, dude is a troll. He stops by here every so often, floods the site with nonsense, and then disappears. Wait a bit, then he'll come back and do it all over. He won't succeed until his attitude changes, which by the smartassedness I've seen so far, it hasn't. That tells me he isn here to quit, just stir up more shit, in which case we don't need him.
You, sir, need an attitude change yourself (if success is your goal). Continue taking up for failure if you like, but I'd suggest following success instead.
Can we get an AMEN BROTHER. Spoken like a true quitter.
AMEN to that!
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Anyone know how to get to the wildcard section... cant seem to find it anywhere
index.php?showforum=11 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=11)
Cost of admission is quit...
Good to see you sir.
How do I get there without using the link? Good to see you too buddy
Go to the main page, scroll down to where it says "NON DIPPING DISCUSSIONS" and you should see it in there.
You're member #31 and can't find the wildcard thread?
No wonder you posted a smooth day 1 in may 12.
Oh, he's posted "smooth" day 1's in many quit groups.
I bet he still wonders why success is elusive.
Some people make things happen. Some people watch things happen. Some people wonder what happened.
When it comes to quitting, I know which category I'm in. It sounds like Highway is a wondering spectator.
Well this was a good start fellas... nice to meet you too
Ive met you damn every time you came crawling back to this site after caving.
In fact, I'm sick of meeting you.
Plan on doing any quitting, or following any advice this time, or do you plan to just come in here and talk some shit for a while and then being on your way with a fat lip once again?
Forgive me for not rolling out the red carpet for a retread caver. May 12 is a strong group. You need them a helluva lot more than they need you.
PS - If you're looking to eschew accountability, there's this other site....
I love Jesus
Sorry but if I may...
How many times have we all tried quitting and FAILED? I know I'm just a newbie to this site but away from it I have tried time and time again. This site has helped me shit tons and its great but I am probably on attempt 20 something right now.
You don't know this guy's story. I had different reasons for caving each time and it sucked ass. I don't thing the guy needs more people telling him how much he blows because he can't beat it.
He keeps coming back here for help. Some people never try to quit, at least he's making an attempt even if it has been weak in the past.
Let's face it, we have all been there. For fuck sake just ignore him if you can't get past the fact that he's failed. We have all fucking failed at a lot in our lives, no one is perfect, stop acting like you all are.
You're in the wrong place, RKO. We don't try or attempt here, we quit.
You know how I know his excuses weren't good enough? No excuse is good enough. I will not dip no matter what. There is no reason to dip, it doesnt solve anything. It just causes slavery and cancer.
If we all had your (shitty) attitude, this site would be full of cavers, not quitters. As a matter fact, there is another site just like that. You may find it more to your liking. It does seem like your goal is to try, whereas ours is to succeed.
As far as 48, dude is a troll. He stops by here every so often, floods the site with nonsense, and then disappears. Wait a bit, then he'll come back and do it all over. He won't succeed until his attitude changes, which by the smartassedness I've seen so far, it hasn't. That tells me he isn here to quit, just stir up more shit, in which case we don't need him.
You, sir, need an attitude change yourself (if success is your goal). Continue taking up for failure if you like, but I'd suggest following success instead.
Can we get an AMEN BROTHER. Spoken like a true quitter.
AMEN to that!
The moment you start "trying" is the moment you've made ingesting nicotine an option. We don't give ourselves that option. Period. End of story.
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Anyone know how to get to the wildcard section... cant seem to find it anywhere
index.php?showforum=11 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=11)
Cost of admission is quit...
Good to see you sir.
How do I get there without using the link? Good to see you too buddy
Go to the main page, scroll down to where it says "NON DIPPING DISCUSSIONS" and you should see it in there.
You're member #31 and can't find the wildcard thread?
No wonder you posted a smooth day 1 in may 12.
Oh, he's posted "smooth" day 1's in many quit groups.
I bet he still wonders why success is elusive.
Some people make things happen. Some people watch things happen. Some people wonder what happened.
When it comes to quitting, I know which category I'm in. It sounds like Highway is a wondering spectator.
Well this was a good start fellas... nice to meet you too
Ive met you damn every time you came crawling back to this site after caving.
In fact, I'm sick of meeting you.
Plan on doing any quitting, or following any advice this time, or do you plan to just come in here and talk some shit for a while and then being on your way with a fat lip once again?
Forgive me for not rolling out the red carpet for a retread caver. May 12 is a strong group. You need them a helluva lot more than they need you.
PS - If you're looking to eschew accountability, there's this other site....
I love Jesus
Sorry but if I may...
How many times have we all tried quitting and FAILED? I know I'm just a newbie to this site but away from it I have tried time and time again. This site has helped me shit tons and its great but I am probably on attempt 20 something right now.
You don't know this guy's story. I had different reasons for caving each time and it sucked ass. I don't thing the guy needs more people telling him how much he blows because he can't beat it.
He keeps coming back here for help. Some people never try to quit, at least he's making an attempt even if it has been weak in the past.
Let's face it, we have all been there. For fuck sake just ignore him if you can't get past the fact that he's failed. We have all fucking failed at a lot in our lives, no one is perfect, stop acting like you all are.
You're in the wrong place, RKO. We don't try or attempt here, we quit.
You know how I know his excuses weren't good enough? No excuse is good enough. I will not dip no matter what. There is no reason to dip, it doesnt solve anything. It just causes slavery and cancer.
If we all had your (shitty) attitude, this site would be full of cavers, not quitters. As a matter fact, there is another site just like that. You may find it more to your liking. It does seem like your goal is to try, whereas ours is to succeed.
As far as 48, dude is a troll. He stops by here every so often, floods the site with nonsense, and then disappears. Wait a bit, then he'll come back and do it all over. He won't succeed until his attitude changes, which by the smartassedness I've seen so far, it hasn't. That tells me he isn here to quit, just stir up more shit, in which case we don't need him.
You, sir, need an attitude change yourself (if success is your goal). Continue taking up for failure if you like, but I'd suggest following success instead.
Can we get an AMEN BROTHER. Spoken like a true quitter.
AMEN to that!
Right on Yota..
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Anyone know how to get to the wildcard section... cant seem to find it anywhere
index.php?showforum=11 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=11)
Cost of admission is quit...
Good to see you sir.
How do I get there without using the link? Good to see you too buddy
Go to the main page, scroll down to where it says "NON DIPPING DISCUSSIONS" and you should see it in there.
You're member #31 and can't find the wildcard thread?
No wonder you posted a smooth day 1 in may 12.
Oh, he's posted "smooth" day 1's in many quit groups.
I bet he still wonders why success is elusive.
Some people make things happen. Some people watch things happen. Some people wonder what happened.
When it comes to quitting, I know which category I'm in. It sounds like Highway is a wondering spectator.
Well this was a good start fellas... nice to meet you too
Ive met you damn every time you came crawling back to this site after caving.
In fact, I'm sick of meeting you.
Plan on doing any quitting, or following any advice this time, or do you plan to just come in here and talk some shit for a while and then being on your way with a fat lip once again?
Forgive me for not rolling out the red carpet for a retread caver. May 12 is a strong group. You need them a helluva lot more than they need you.
PS - If you're looking to eschew accountability, there's this other site....
I love Jesus
Sorry but if I may...
How many times have we all tried quitting and FAILED? I know I'm just a newbie to this site but away from it I have tried time and time again. This site has helped me shit tons and its great but I am probably on attempt 20 something right now.
You don't know this guy's story. I had different reasons for caving each time and it sucked ass. I don't thing the guy needs more people telling him how much he blows because he can't beat it.
He keeps coming back here for help. Some people never try to quit, at least he's making an attempt even if it has been weak in the past.
Let's face it, we have all been there. For fuck sake just ignore him if you can't get past the fact that he's failed. We have all fucking failed at a lot in our lives, no one is perfect, stop acting like you all are.
You're in the wrong place, RKO. We don't try or attempt here, we quit.
You know how I know his excuses weren't good enough? No excuse is good enough. I will not dip no matter what. There is no reason to dip, it doesnt solve anything. It just causes slavery and cancer.
If we all had your (shitty) attitude, this site would be full of cavers, not quitters. As a matter fact, there is another site just like that. You may find it more to your liking. It does seem like your goal is to try, whereas ours is to succeed.
As far as 48, dude is a troll. He stops by here every so often, floods the site with nonsense, and then disappears. Wait a bit, then he'll come back and do it all over. He won't succeed until his attitude changes, which by the smartassedness I've seen so far, it hasn't. That tells me he isn here to quit, just stir up more shit, in which case we don't need him.
You, sir, need an attitude change yourself (if success is your goal). Continue taking up for failure if you like, but I'd suggest following success instead.
Can we get an AMEN BROTHER. Spoken like a true quitter.
AMEN to that!
Right on Yota..
excuse me.... need to troll around in here for a bit
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Anyone know how to get to the wildcard section... cant seem to find it anywhere
index.php?showforum=11 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=11)
Cost of admission is quit...
Good to see you sir.
How do I get there without using the link? Good to see you too buddy
Go to the main page, scroll down to where it says "NON DIPPING DISCUSSIONS" and you should see it in there.
You're member #31 and can't find the wildcard thread?
No wonder you posted a smooth day 1 in may 12.
Oh, he's posted "smooth" day 1's in many quit groups.
I bet he still wonders why success is elusive.
Some people make things happen. Some people watch things happen. Some people wonder what happened.
When it comes to quitting, I know which category I'm in. It sounds like Highway is a wondering spectator.
Well this was a good start fellas... nice to meet you too
Ive met you damn every time you came crawling back to this site after caving.
In fact, I'm sick of meeting you.
Plan on doing any quitting, or following any advice this time, or do you plan to just come in here and talk some shit for a while and then being on your way with a fat lip once again?
Forgive me for not rolling out the red carpet for a retread caver. May 12 is a strong group. You need them a helluva lot more than they need you.
PS - If you're looking to eschew accountability, there's this other site....
I love Jesus
Sorry but if I may...
How many times have we all tried quitting and FAILED? I know I'm just a newbie to this site but away from it I have tried time and time again. This site has helped me shit tons and its great but I am probably on attempt 20 something right now.
You don't know this guy's story. I had different reasons for caving each time and it sucked ass. I don't thing the guy needs more people telling him how much he blows because he can't beat it.
He keeps coming back here for help. Some people never try to quit, at least he's making an attempt even if it has been weak in the past.
Let's face it, we have all been there. For fuck sake just ignore him if you can't get past the fact that he's failed. We have all fucking failed at a lot in our lives, no one is perfect, stop acting like you all are.
You're in the wrong place, RKO. We don't try or attempt here, we quit.
You know how I know his excuses weren't good enough? No excuse is good enough. I will not dip no matter what. There is no reason to dip, it doesnt solve anything. It just causes slavery and cancer.
If we all had your (shitty) attitude, this site would be full of cavers, not quitters. As a matter fact, there is another site just like that. You may find it more to your liking. It does seem like your goal is to try, whereas ours is to succeed.
As far as 48, dude is a troll. He stops by here every so often, floods the site with nonsense, and then disappears. Wait a bit, then he'll come back and do it all over. He won't succeed until his attitude changes, which by the smartassedness I've seen so far, it hasn't. That tells me he isn here to quit, just stir up more shit, in which case we don't need him.
You, sir, need an attitude change yourself (if success is your goal). Continue taking up for failure if you like, but I'd suggest following success instead.
Can we get an AMEN BROTHER. Spoken like a true quitter.
AMEN to that!
Right on Yota..
excuse me.... need to troll around in here for a bit
Doing a fine job of it. Of course, we wouldn't expect any less of you.
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Anyone know how to get to the wildcard section... cant seem to find it anywhere
index.php?showforum=11 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=11)
Cost of admission is quit...
Good to see you sir.
How do I get there without using the link? Good to see you too buddy
Go to the main page, scroll down to where it says "NON DIPPING DISCUSSIONS" and you should see it in there.
You're member #31 and can't find the wildcard thread?
No wonder you posted a smooth day 1 in may 12.
Oh, he's posted "smooth" day 1's in many quit groups.
I bet he still wonders why success is elusive.
Some people make things happen. Some people watch things happen. Some people wonder what happened.
When it comes to quitting, I know which category I'm in. It sounds like Highway is a wondering spectator.
Well this was a good start fellas... nice to meet you too
Ive met you damn every time you came crawling back to this site after caving.
In fact, I'm sick of meeting you.
Plan on doing any quitting, or following any advice this time, or do you plan to just come in here and talk some shit for a while and then being on your way with a fat lip once again?
Forgive me for not rolling out the red carpet for a retread caver. May 12 is a strong group. You need them a helluva lot more than they need you.
PS - If you're looking to eschew accountability, there's this other site....
I love Jesus
Sorry but if I may...
How many times have we all tried quitting and FAILED? I know I'm just a newbie to this site but away from it I have tried time and time again. This site has helped me shit tons and its great but I am probably on attempt 20 something right now.
You don't know this guy's story. I had different reasons for caving each time and it sucked ass. I don't thing the guy needs more people telling him how much he blows because he can't beat it.
He keeps coming back here for help. Some people never try to quit, at least he's making an attempt even if it has been weak in the past.
Let's face it, we have all been there. For fuck sake just ignore him if you can't get past the fact that he's failed. We have all fucking failed at a lot in our lives, no one is perfect, stop acting like you all are.
You're in the wrong place, RKO. We don't try or attempt here, we quit.
You know how I know his excuses weren't good enough? No excuse is good enough. I will not dip no matter what. There is no reason to dip, it doesnt solve anything. It just causes slavery and cancer.
If we all had your (shitty) attitude, this site would be full of cavers, not quitters. As a matter fact, there is another site just like that. You may find it more to your liking. It does seem like your goal is to try, whereas ours is to succeed.
As far as 48, dude is a troll. He stops by here every so often, floods the site with nonsense, and then disappears. Wait a bit, then he'll come back and do it all over. He won't succeed until his attitude changes, which by the smartassedness I've seen so far, it hasn't. That tells me he isn here to quit, just stir up more shit, in which case we don't need him.
You, sir, need an attitude change yourself (if success is your goal). Continue taking up for failure if you like, but I'd suggest following success instead.
Can we get an AMEN BROTHER. Spoken like a true quitter.
AMEN to that!
Right on Yota..
excuse me.... need to troll around in here for a bit
Doing a fine job of it. Of course, we wouldn't expect any less of you.
why thank you... its nice to be appreciated
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Anyone know how to get to the wildcard section... cant seem to find it anywhere
index.php?showforum=11 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=11)
Cost of admission is quit...
Good to see you sir.
How do I get there without using the link? Good to see you too buddy
Go to the main page, scroll down to where it says "NON DIPPING DISCUSSIONS" and you should see it in there.
You're member #31 and can't find the wildcard thread?
No wonder you posted a smooth day 1 in may 12.
Oh, he's posted "smooth" day 1's in many quit groups.
I bet he still wonders why success is elusive.
Some people make things happen. Some people watch things happen. Some people wonder what happened.
When it comes to quitting, I know which category I'm in. It sounds like Highway is a wondering spectator.
Well this was a good start fellas... nice to meet you too
Ive met you damn every time you came crawling back to this site after caving.
In fact, I'm sick of meeting you.
Plan on doing any quitting, or following any advice this time, or do you plan to just come in here and talk some shit for a while and then being on your way with a fat lip once again?
Forgive me for not rolling out the red carpet for a retread caver. May 12 is a strong group. You need them a helluva lot more than they need you.
PS - If you're looking to eschew accountability, there's this other site....
I love Jesus
Sorry but if I may...
How many times have we all tried quitting and FAILED? I know I'm just a newbie to this site but away from it I have tried time and time again. This site has helped me shit tons and its great but I am probably on attempt 20 something right now.
You don't know this guy's story. I had different reasons for caving each time and it sucked ass. I don't thing the guy needs more people telling him how much he blows because he can't beat it.
He keeps coming back here for help. Some people never try to quit, at least he's making an attempt even if it has been weak in the past.
Let's face it, we have all been there. For fuck sake just ignore him if you can't get past the fact that he's failed. We have all fucking failed at a lot in our lives, no one is perfect, stop acting like you all are.
You're in the wrong place, RKO. We don't try or attempt here, we quit.
You know how I know his excuses weren't good enough? No excuse is good enough. I will not dip no matter what. There is no reason to dip, it doesnt solve anything. It just causes slavery and cancer.
If we all had your (shitty) attitude, this site would be full of cavers, not quitters. As a matter fact, there is another site just like that. You may find it more to your liking. It does seem like your goal is to try, whereas ours is to succeed.
As far as 48, dude is a troll. He stops by here every so often, floods the site with nonsense, and then disappears. Wait a bit, then he'll come back and do it all over. He won't succeed until his attitude changes, which by the smartassedness I've seen so far, it hasn't. That tells me he isn here to quit, just stir up more shit, in which case we don't need him.
You, sir, need an attitude change yourself (if success is your goal). Continue taking up for failure if you like, but I'd suggest following success instead.
My attitude is SHITTY? SERIOUSLY? I'm on day #38 and I'm saying no to the nic bitch. I'm saying everyone including yourself has TRIED to quit before and FAILED. If you deny that you're a fucking liar.
I have stayed out of most shit but attacking people for trying to a do something good for their life is wrong in my book. Maybe it was the way I was raised. People fail a shit ton in everything before they succeed. Bill Gates didn't become a billionaire after his first idea.
My attitude is far from shitty, sir. If anyone needs a change of attitude it is you. Maybe I'm just the more supportive type and received more love as a child therefore you have to be such a fuckin asshole to everyone.
My mom and dad taught me better.
As for 48 being a troll, that's fine. Let him troll around. Ignore the guy. He wants to quit he will but far from me to say he's not welcome here or any of you for that matter.
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Anyone know how to get to the wildcard section... cant seem to find it anywhere
index.php?showforum=11 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=11)
Cost of admission is quit...
Good to see you sir.
How do I get there without using the link? Good to see you too buddy
Go to the main page, scroll down to where it says "NON DIPPING DISCUSSIONS" and you should see it in there.
You're member #31 and can't find the wildcard thread?
No wonder you posted a smooth day 1 in may 12.
Oh, he's posted "smooth" day 1's in many quit groups.
I bet he still wonders why success is elusive.
Some people make things happen. Some people watch things happen. Some people wonder what happened.
When it comes to quitting, I know which category I'm in. It sounds like Highway is a wondering spectator.
Well this was a good start fellas... nice to meet you too
Ive met you damn every time you came crawling back to this site after caving.
In fact, I'm sick of meeting you.
Plan on doing any quitting, or following any advice this time, or do you plan to just come in here and talk some shit for a while and then being on your way with a fat lip once again?
Forgive me for not rolling out the red carpet for a retread caver. May 12 is a strong group. You need them a helluva lot more than they need you.
PS - If you're looking to eschew accountability, there's this other site....
I love Jesus
Sorry but if I may...
How many times have we all tried quitting and FAILED? I know I'm just a newbie to this site but away from it I have tried time and time again. This site has helped me shit tons and its great but I am probably on attempt 20 something right now.
You don't know this guy's story. I had different reasons for caving each time and it sucked ass. I don't thing the guy needs more people telling him how much he blows because he can't beat it.
He keeps coming back here for help. Some people never try to quit, at least he's making an attempt even if it has been weak in the past.
Let's face it, we have all been there. For fuck sake just ignore him if you can't get past the fact that he's failed. We have all fucking failed at a lot in our lives, no one is perfect, stop acting like you all are.
You're in the wrong place, RKO. We don't try or attempt here, we quit.
You know how I know his excuses weren't good enough? No excuse is good enough. I will not dip no matter what. There is no reason to dip, it doesnt solve anything. It just causes slavery and cancer.
If we all had your (shitty) attitude, this site would be full of cavers, not quitters. As a matter fact, there is another site just like that. You may find it more to your liking. It does seem like your goal is to try, whereas ours is to succeed.
As far as 48, dude is a troll. He stops by here every so often, floods the site with nonsense, and then disappears. Wait a bit, then he'll come back and do it all over. He won't succeed until his attitude changes, which by the smartassedness I've seen so far, it hasn't. That tells me he isn here to quit, just stir up more shit, in which case we don't need him.
You, sir, need an attitude change yourself (if success is your goal). Continue taking up for failure if you like, but I'd suggest following success instead.
My attitude is SHITTY? SERIOUSLY? I'm on day #38 and I'm saying no to the nic bitch. I'm saying everyone including yourself has TRIED to quit before and FAILED. If you deny that you're a fucking liar.
I have stayed out of most shit but attacking people for trying to a do something good for their life is wrong in my book. Maybe it was the way I was raised. People fail a shit ton in everything before they succeed. Bill Gates didn't become a billionaire after his first idea.
My attitude is far from shitty, sir. If anyone needs a change of attitude it is you. Maybe I'm just the more supportive type and received more love as a child therefore you have to be such a fuckin asshole to everyone.
My mom and dad taught me better.
As for 48 being a troll, that's fine. Let him troll around. Ignore the guy. He wants to quit he will but far from me to say he's not welcome here or any of you for that matter.
Well said... Im ok with them giving me attitude, they dont know me so would expect nothing less. The people who do know me have all sent me messages showing thier support and thats all i need for now.
probably the farthest thing from a troll so thats why im trying to laugh all this off
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Anyone know how to get to the wildcard section... cant seem to find it anywhere
index.php?showforum=11 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=11)
Cost of admission is quit...
Good to see you sir.
How do I get there without using the link? Good to see you too buddy
Go to the main page, scroll down to where it says "NON DIPPING DISCUSSIONS" and you should see it in there.
You're member #31 and can't find the wildcard thread?
No wonder you posted a smooth day 1 in may 12.
Oh, he's posted "smooth" day 1's in many quit groups.
I bet he still wonders why success is elusive.
Some people make things happen. Some people watch things happen. Some people wonder what happened.
When it comes to quitting, I know which category I'm in. It sounds like Highway is a wondering spectator.
Well this was a good start fellas... nice to meet you too
Ive met you damn every time you came crawling back to this site after caving.
In fact, I'm sick of meeting you.
Plan on doing any quitting, or following any advice this time, or do you plan to just come in here and talk some shit for a while and then being on your way with a fat lip once again?
Forgive me for not rolling out the red carpet for a retread caver. May 12 is a strong group. You need them a helluva lot more than they need you.
PS - If you're looking to eschew accountability, there's this other site....
I love Jesus
Sorry but if I may...
How many times have we all tried quitting and FAILED? I know I'm just a newbie to this site but away from it I have tried time and time again. This site has helped me shit tons and its great but I am probably on attempt 20 something right now.
You don't know this guy's story. I had different reasons for caving each time and it sucked ass. I don't thing the guy needs more people telling him how much he blows because he can't beat it.
He keeps coming back here for help. Some people never try to quit, at least he's making an attempt even if it has been weak in the past.
Let's face it, we have all been there. For fuck sake just ignore him if you can't get past the fact that he's failed. We have all fucking failed at a lot in our lives, no one is perfect, stop acting like you all are.
You're in the wrong place, RKO. We don't try or attempt here, we quit.
You know how I know his excuses weren't good enough? No excuse is good enough. I will not dip no matter what. There is no reason to dip, it doesnt solve anything. It just causes slavery and cancer.
If we all had your (shitty) attitude, this site would be full of cavers, not quitters. As a matter fact, there is another site just like that. You may find it more to your liking. It does seem like your goal is to try, whereas ours is to succeed.
As far as 48, dude is a troll. He stops by here every so often, floods the site with nonsense, and then disappears. Wait a bit, then he'll come back and do it all over. He won't succeed until his attitude changes, which by the smartassedness I've seen so far, it hasn't. That tells me he isn here to quit, just stir up more shit, in which case we don't need him.
You, sir, need an attitude change yourself (if success is your goal). Continue taking up for failure if you like, but I'd suggest following success instead.
My attitude is SHITTY? SERIOUSLY? I'm on day #38 and I'm saying no to the nic bitch. I'm saying everyone including yourself has TRIED to quit before and FAILED. If you deny that you're a fucking liar.
I have stayed out of most shit but attacking people for trying to a do something good for their life is wrong in my book. Maybe it was the way I was raised. People fail a shit ton in everything before they succeed. Bill Gates didn't become a billionaire after his first idea.
My attitude is far from shitty, sir. If anyone needs a change of attitude it is you. Maybe I'm just the more supportive type and received more love as a child therefore you have to be such a fuckin asshole to everyone.
My mom and dad taught me better.
As for 48 being a troll, that's fine. Let him troll around. Ignore the guy. He wants to quit he will but far from me to say he's not welcome here or any of you for that matter.
Back up cupcake. No need to get all butt hurt.
What is being said here is, we do not 'try'. We do. It's a different mindset.
If you allow the word 'try' in your head, then you are in turn, and in fact, allowing the resulting 'fail' as well. People who TRY can FAIL.
I cannot fail today. I'm not TRYING to quit. I am quit.
Now, as far as Highway goes, retreads like him can either drink the fucking kool aid, or GTFU.
I don't know the dude, but seems like he does an awful lotta 'trying'.
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Nice 38 btw...
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Anyone know how to get to the wildcard section... cant seem to find it anywhere
index.php?showforum=11 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=11)
Cost of admission is quit...
Good to see you sir.
How do I get there without using the link? Good to see you too buddy
Go to the main page, scroll down to where it says "NON DIPPING DISCUSSIONS" and you should see it in there.
You're member #31 and can't find the wildcard thread?
No wonder you posted a smooth day 1 in may 12.
Oh, he's posted "smooth" day 1's in many quit groups.
I bet he still wonders why success is elusive.
Some people make things happen. Some people watch things happen. Some people wonder what happened.
When it comes to quitting, I know which category I'm in. It sounds like Highway is a wondering spectator.
Well this was a good start fellas... nice to meet you too
Ive met you damn every time you came crawling back to this site after caving.
In fact, I'm sick of meeting you.
Plan on doing any quitting, or following any advice this time, or do you plan to just come in here and talk some shit for a while and then being on your way with a fat lip once again?
Forgive me for not rolling out the red carpet for a retread caver. May 12 is a strong group. You need them a helluva lot more than they need you.
PS - If you're looking to eschew accountability, there's this other site....
I love Jesus
Sorry but if I may...
How many times have we all tried quitting and FAILED? I know I'm just a newbie to this site but away from it I have tried time and time again. This site has helped me shit tons and its great but I am probably on attempt 20 something right now.
You don't know this guy's story. I had different reasons for caving each time and it sucked ass. I don't thing the guy needs more people telling him how much he blows because he can't beat it.
He keeps coming back here for help. Some people never try to quit, at least he's making an attempt even if it has been weak in the past.
Let's face it, we have all been there. For fuck sake just ignore him if you can't get past the fact that he's failed. We have all fucking failed at a lot in our lives, no one is perfect, stop acting like you all are.
You're in the wrong place, RKO. We don't try or attempt here, we quit.
You know how I know his excuses weren't good enough? No excuse is good enough. I will not dip no matter what. There is no reason to dip, it doesnt solve anything. It just causes slavery and cancer.
If we all had your (shitty) attitude, this site would be full of cavers, not quitters. As a matter fact, there is another site just like that. You may find it more to your liking. It does seem like your goal is to try, whereas ours is to succeed.
As far as 48, dude is a troll. He stops by here every so often, floods the site with nonsense, and then disappears. Wait a bit, then he'll come back and do it all over. He won't succeed until his attitude changes, which by the smartassedness I've seen so far, it hasn't. That tells me he isn here to quit, just stir up more shit, in which case we don't need him.
You, sir, need an attitude change yourself (if success is your goal). Continue taking up for failure if you like, but I'd suggest following success instead.
My attitude is SHITTY? SERIOUSLY? I'm on day #38 and I'm saying no to the nic bitch. I'm saying everyone including yourself has TRIED to quit before and FAILED. If you deny that you're a fucking liar.
I have stayed out of most shit but attacking people for trying to a do something good for their life is wrong in my book. Maybe it was the way I was raised. People fail a shit ton in everything before they succeed. Bill Gates didn't become a billionaire after his first idea.
My attitude is far from shitty, sir. If anyone needs a change of attitude it is you. Maybe I'm just the more supportive type and received more love as a child therefore you have to be such a fuckin asshole to everyone.
My mom and dad taught me better.
As for 48 being a troll, that's fine. Let him troll around. Ignore the guy. He wants to quit he will but far from me to say he's not welcome here or any of you for that matter.
Well said... Im ok with them giving me attitude, they dont know me so would expect nothing less. The people who do know me have all sent me messages showing thier support and thats all i need for now.
probably the farthest thing from a troll so thats why im trying to laugh all this off
Why don't you put the same kinda effort into keeping the rat shit outta your face?
...again with the word 'try'...
How about a 'DO'?
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Anyone know how to get to the wildcard section... cant seem to find it anywhere
index.php?showforum=11 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=11)
Cost of admission is quit...
Good to see you sir.
How do I get there without using the link? Good to see you too buddy
Go to the main page, scroll down to where it says "NON DIPPING DISCUSSIONS" and you should see it in there.
You're member #31 and can't find the wildcard thread?
No wonder you posted a smooth day 1 in may 12.
Oh, he's posted "smooth" day 1's in many quit groups.
I bet he still wonders why success is elusive.
Some people make things happen. Some people watch things happen. Some people wonder what happened.
When it comes to quitting, I know which category I'm in. It sounds like Highway is a wondering spectator.
Well this was a good start fellas... nice to meet you too
Ive met you damn every time you came crawling back to this site after caving.
In fact, I'm sick of meeting you.
Plan on doing any quitting, or following any advice this time, or do you plan to just come in here and talk some shit for a while and then being on your way with a fat lip once again?
Forgive me for not rolling out the red carpet for a retread caver. May 12 is a strong group. You need them a helluva lot more than they need you.
PS - If you're looking to eschew accountability, there's this other site....
I love Jesus
Sorry but if I may...
How many times have we all tried quitting and FAILED? I know I'm just a newbie to this site but away from it I have tried time and time again. This site has helped me shit tons and its great but I am probably on attempt 20 something right now.
You don't know this guy's story. I had different reasons for caving each time and it sucked ass. I don't thing the guy needs more people telling him how much he blows because he can't beat it.
He keeps coming back here for help. Some people never try to quit, at least he's making an attempt even if it has been weak in the past.
Let's face it, we have all been there. For fuck sake just ignore him if you can't get past the fact that he's failed. We have all fucking failed at a lot in our lives, no one is perfect, stop acting like you all are.
You're in the wrong place, RKO. We don't try or attempt here, we quit.
You know how I know his excuses weren't good enough? No excuse is good enough. I will not dip no matter what. There is no reason to dip, it doesnt solve anything. It just causes slavery and cancer.
If we all had your (shitty) attitude, this site would be full of cavers, not quitters. As a matter fact, there is another site just like that. You may find it more to your liking. It does seem like your goal is to try, whereas ours is to succeed.
As far as 48, dude is a troll. He stops by here every so often, floods the site with nonsense, and then disappears. Wait a bit, then he'll come back and do it all over. He won't succeed until his attitude changes, which by the smartassedness I've seen so far, it hasn't. That tells me he isn here to quit, just stir up more shit, in which case we don't need him.
You, sir, need an attitude change yourself (if success is your goal). Continue taking up for failure if you like, but I'd suggest following success instead.
My attitude is SHITTY? SERIOUSLY? I'm on day #38 and I'm saying no to the nic bitch. I'm saying everyone including yourself has TRIED to quit before and FAILED. If you deny that you're a fucking liar.
I have stayed out of most shit but attacking people for trying to a do something good for their life is wrong in my book. Maybe it was the way I was raised. People fail a shit ton in everything before they succeed. Bill Gates didn't become a billionaire after his first idea.
My attitude is far from shitty, sir. If anyone needs a change of attitude it is you. Maybe I'm just the more supportive type and received more love as a child therefore you have to be such a fuckin asshole to everyone.
My mom and dad taught me better.
As for 48 being a troll, that's fine. Let him troll around. Ignore the guy. He wants to quit he will but far from me to say he's not welcome here or any of you for that matter.
Well said... Im ok with them giving me attitude, they dont know me so would expect nothing less. The people who do know me have all sent me messages showing thier support and thats all i need for now.
probably the farthest thing from a troll so thats why im trying to laugh all this off
Why don't you put the same kinda effort into keeping the rat shit outta your face?
...again with the word 'try'...
How about a 'DO'?
sorry... im not trying to laugh this all off, i am laughing all this off
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Anyone know how to get to the wildcard section... cant seem to find it anywhere
index.php?showforum=11 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=11)
Cost of admission is quit...
Good to see you sir.
How do I get there without using the link? Good to see you too buddy
Go to the main page, scroll down to where it says "NON DIPPING DISCUSSIONS" and you should see it in there.
You're member #31 and can't find the wildcard thread?
No wonder you posted a smooth day 1 in may 12.
Oh, he's posted "smooth" day 1's in many quit groups.
I bet he still wonders why success is elusive.
Some people make things happen. Some people watch things happen. Some people wonder what happened.
When it comes to quitting, I know which category I'm in. It sounds like Highway is a wondering spectator.
Well this was a good start fellas... nice to meet you too
Ive met you damn every time you came crawling back to this site after caving.
In fact, I'm sick of meeting you.
Plan on doing any quitting, or following any advice this time, or do you plan to just come in here and talk some shit for a while and then being on your way with a fat lip once again?
Forgive me for not rolling out the red carpet for a retread caver. May 12 is a strong group. You need them a helluva lot more than they need you.
PS - If you're looking to eschew accountability, there's this other site....
I love Jesus
Sorry but if I may...
How many times have we all tried quitting and FAILED? I know I'm just a newbie to this site but away from it I have tried time and time again. This site has helped me shit tons and its great but I am probably on attempt 20 something right now.
You don't know this guy's story. I had different reasons for caving each time and it sucked ass. I don't thing the guy needs more people telling him how much he blows because he can't beat it.
He keeps coming back here for help. Some people never try to quit, at least he's making an attempt even if it has been weak in the past.
Let's face it, we have all been there. For fuck sake just ignore him if you can't get past the fact that he's failed. We have all fucking failed at a lot in our lives, no one is perfect, stop acting like you all are.
You're in the wrong place, RKO. We don't try or attempt here, we quit.
You know how I know his excuses weren't good enough? No excuse is good enough. I will not dip no matter what. There is no reason to dip, it doesnt solve anything. It just causes slavery and cancer.
If we all had your (shitty) attitude, this site would be full of cavers, not quitters. As a matter fact, there is another site just like that. You may find it more to your liking. It does seem like your goal is to try, whereas ours is to succeed.
As far as 48, dude is a troll. He stops by here every so often, floods the site with nonsense, and then disappears. Wait a bit, then he'll come back and do it all over. He won't succeed until his attitude changes, which by the smartassedness I've seen so far, it hasn't. That tells me he isn here to quit, just stir up more shit, in which case we don't need him.
You, sir, need an attitude change yourself (if success is your goal). Continue taking up for failure if you like, but I'd suggest following success instead.
My attitude is SHITTY? SERIOUSLY? I'm on day #38 and I'm saying no to the nic bitch. I'm saying everyone including yourself has TRIED to quit before and FAILED. If you deny that you're a fucking liar.
I have stayed out of most shit but attacking people for trying to a do something good for their life is wrong in my book. Maybe it was the way I was raised. People fail a shit ton in everything before they succeed. Bill Gates didn't become a billionaire after his first idea.
My attitude is far from shitty, sir. If anyone needs a change of attitude it is you. Maybe I'm just the more supportive type and received more love as a child therefore you have to be such a fuckin asshole to everyone.
My mom and dad taught me better.
As for 48 being a troll, that's fine. Let him troll around. Ignore the guy. He wants to quit he will but far from me to say he's not welcome here or any of you for that matter.
Well said... Im ok with them giving me attitude, they dont know me so would expect nothing less. The people who do know me have all sent me messages showing thier support and thats all i need for now.
probably the farthest thing from a troll so thats why im trying to laugh all this off
Why don't you put the same kinda effort into keeping the rat shit outta your face?
...again with the word 'try'...
How about a 'DO'?
sorry... im not trying to laugh this all off, i am laughing all this off
That's the spirit. You're SURE to have success this time!
Cuz after all, this is one big fuckin' joke around here.
:rustaf1:
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Anyone know how to get to the wildcard section... cant seem to find it anywhere
index.php?showforum=11 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=11)
Cost of admission is quit...
Good to see you sir.
How do I get there without using the link? Good to see you too buddy
Go to the main page, scroll down to where it says "NON DIPPING DISCUSSIONS" and you should see it in there.
You're member #31 and can't find the wildcard thread?
No wonder you posted a smooth day 1 in may 12.
Oh, he's posted "smooth" day 1's in many quit groups.
I bet he still wonders why success is elusive.
Some people make things happen. Some people watch things happen. Some people wonder what happened.
When it comes to quitting, I know which category I'm in. It sounds like Highway is a wondering spectator.
Well this was a good start fellas... nice to meet you too
Ive met you damn every time you came crawling back to this site after caving.
In fact, I'm sick of meeting you.
Plan on doing any quitting, or following any advice this time, or do you plan to just come in here and talk some shit for a while and then being on your way with a fat lip once again?
Forgive me for not rolling out the red carpet for a retread caver. May 12 is a strong group. You need them a helluva lot more than they need you.
PS - If you're looking to eschew accountability, there's this other site....
I love Jesus
Sorry but if I may...
How many times have we all tried quitting and FAILED? I know I'm just a newbie to this site but away from it I have tried time and time again. This site has helped me shit tons and its great but I am probably on attempt 20 something right now.
You don't know this guy's story. I had different reasons for caving each time and it sucked ass. I don't thing the guy needs more people telling him how much he blows because he can't beat it.
He keeps coming back here for help. Some people never try to quit, at least he's making an attempt even if it has been weak in the past.
Let's face it, we have all been there. For fuck sake just ignore him if you can't get past the fact that he's failed. We have all fucking failed at a lot in our lives, no one is perfect, stop acting like you all are.
You're in the wrong place, RKO. We don't try or attempt here, we quit.
You know how I know his excuses weren't good enough? No excuse is good enough. I will not dip no matter what. There is no reason to dip, it doesnt solve anything. It just causes slavery and cancer.
If we all had your (shitty) attitude, this site would be full of cavers, not quitters. As a matter fact, there is another site just like that. You may find it more to your liking. It does seem like your goal is to try, whereas ours is to succeed.
As far as 48, dude is a troll. He stops by here every so often, floods the site with nonsense, and then disappears. Wait a bit, then he'll come back and do it all over. He won't succeed until his attitude changes, which by the smartassedness I've seen so far, it hasn't. That tells me he isn here to quit, just stir up more shit, in which case we don't need him.
You, sir, need an attitude change yourself (if success is your goal). Continue taking up for failure if you like, but I'd suggest following success instead.
My attitude is SHITTY? SERIOUSLY? I'm on day #38 and I'm saying no to the nic bitch. I'm saying everyone including yourself has TRIED to quit before and FAILED. If you deny that you're a fucking liar.
I have stayed out of most shit but attacking people for trying to a do something good for their life is wrong in my book. Maybe it was the way I was raised. People fail a shit ton in everything before they succeed. Bill Gates didn't become a billionaire after his first idea.
My attitude is far from shitty, sir. If anyone needs a change of attitude it is you. Maybe I'm just the more supportive type and received more love as a child therefore you have to be such a fuckin asshole to everyone.
My mom and dad taught me better.
As for 48 being a troll, that's fine. Let him troll around. Ignore the guy. He wants to quit he will but far from me to say he's not welcome here or any of you for that matter.
Well said... Im ok with them giving me attitude, they dont know me so would expect nothing less. The people who do know me have all sent me messages showing thier support and thats all i need for now.
probably the farthest thing from a troll so thats why im trying to laugh all this off
Why don't you put the same kinda effort into keeping the rat shit outta your face?
...again with the word 'try'...
How about a 'DO'?
sorry... im not trying to laugh this all off, i am laughing all this off
That's the spirit. You're SURE to have success this time!
Cuz after all, this is one big fuckin' joke around here.
:rustaf1:
maybe to you, but definitely not to me
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Anyone know how to get to the wildcard section... cant seem to find it anywhere
index.php?showforum=11 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=11)
Cost of admission is quit...
Good to see you sir.
How do I get there without using the link? Good to see you too buddy
Go to the main page, scroll down to where it says "NON DIPPING DISCUSSIONS" and you should see it in there.
You're member #31 and can't find the wildcard thread?
No wonder you posted a smooth day 1 in may 12.
Oh, he's posted "smooth" day 1's in many quit groups.
I bet he still wonders why success is elusive.
Some people make things happen. Some people watch things happen. Some people wonder what happened.
When it comes to quitting, I know which category I'm in. It sounds like Highway is a wondering spectator.
Well this was a good start fellas... nice to meet you too
Ive met you damn every time you came crawling back to this site after caving.
In fact, I'm sick of meeting you.
Plan on doing any quitting, or following any advice this time, or do you plan to just come in here and talk some shit for a while and then being on your way with a fat lip once again?
Forgive me for not rolling out the red carpet for a retread caver. May 12 is a strong group. You need them a helluva lot more than they need you.
PS - If you're looking to eschew accountability, there's this other site....
I love Jesus
Sorry but if I may...
How many times have we all tried quitting and FAILED? I know I'm just a newbie to this site but away from it I have tried time and time again. This site has helped me shit tons and its great but I am probably on attempt 20 something right now.
You don't know this guy's story. I had different reasons for caving each time and it sucked ass. I don't thing the guy needs more people telling him how much he blows because he can't beat it.
He keeps coming back here for help. Some people never try to quit, at least he's making an attempt even if it has been weak in the past.
Let's face it, we have all been there. For fuck sake just ignore him if you can't get past the fact that he's failed. We have all fucking failed at a lot in our lives, no one is perfect, stop acting like you all are.
You're in the wrong place, RKO. We don't try or attempt here, we quit.
You know how I know his excuses weren't good enough? No excuse is good enough. I will not dip no matter what. There is no reason to dip, it doesnt solve anything. It just causes slavery and cancer.
If we all had your (shitty) attitude, this site would be full of cavers, not quitters. As a matter fact, there is another site just like that. You may find it more to your liking. It does seem like your goal is to try, whereas ours is to succeed.
As far as 48, dude is a troll. He stops by here every so often, floods the site with nonsense, and then disappears. Wait a bit, then he'll come back and do it all over. He won't succeed until his attitude changes, which by the smartassedness I've seen so far, it hasn't. That tells me he isn here to quit, just stir up more shit, in which case we don't need him.
You, sir, need an attitude change yourself (if success is your goal). Continue taking up for failure if you like, but I'd suggest following success instead.
My attitude is SHITTY? SERIOUSLY? I'm on day #38 and I'm saying no to the nic bitch. I'm saying everyone including yourself has TRIED to quit before and FAILED. If you deny that you're a fucking liar.
I have stayed out of most shit but attacking people for trying to a do something good for their life is wrong in my book. Maybe it was the way I was raised. People fail a shit ton in everything before they succeed. Bill Gates didn't become a billionaire after his first idea.
My attitude is far from shitty, sir. If anyone needs a change of attitude it is you. Maybe I'm just the more supportive type and received more love as a child therefore you have to be such a fuckin asshole to everyone.
My mom and dad taught me better.
As for 48 being a troll, that's fine. Let him troll around. Ignore the guy. He wants to quit he will but far from me to say he's not welcome here or any of you for that matter.
Well said... Im ok with them giving me attitude, they dont know me so would expect nothing less. The people who do know me have all sent me messages showing thier support and thats all i need for now.
probably the farthest thing from a troll so thats why im trying to laugh all this off
Why don't you put the same kinda effort into keeping the rat shit outta your face?
...again with the word 'try'...
How about a 'DO'?
sorry... im not trying to laugh this all off, i am laughing all this off
That's the spirit. You're SURE to have success this time!
Cuz after all, this is one big fuckin' joke around here.
:rustaf1:
maybe to you, but definitely not to me
Says the serial caver.
We'll just have to see...
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Anyone know how to get to the wildcard section... cant seem to find it anywhere
index.php?showforum=11 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=11)
Cost of admission is quit...
Good to see you sir.
How do I get there without using the link? Good to see you too buddy
Go to the main page, scroll down to where it says "NON DIPPING DISCUSSIONS" and you should see it in there.
You're member #31 and can't find the wildcard thread?
No wonder you posted a smooth day 1 in may 12.
Oh, he's posted "smooth" day 1's in many quit groups.
I bet he still wonders why success is elusive.
Some people make things happen. Some people watch things happen. Some people wonder what happened.
When it comes to quitting, I know which category I'm in. It sounds like Highway is a wondering spectator.
Well this was a good start fellas... nice to meet you too
Ive met you damn every time you came crawling back to this site after caving.
In fact, I'm sick of meeting you.
Plan on doing any quitting, or following any advice this time, or do you plan to just come in here and talk some shit for a while and then being on your way with a fat lip once again?
Forgive me for not rolling out the red carpet for a retread caver. May 12 is a strong group. You need them a helluva lot more than they need you.
PS - If you're looking to eschew accountability, there's this other site....
I love Jesus
Sorry but if I may...
How many times have we all tried quitting and FAILED? I know I'm just a newbie to this site but away from it I have tried time and time again. This site has helped me shit tons and its great but I am probably on attempt 20 something right now.
You don't know this guy's story. I had different reasons for caving each time and it sucked ass. I don't thing the guy needs more people telling him how much he blows because he can't beat it.
He keeps coming back here for help. Some people never try to quit, at least he's making an attempt even if it has been weak in the past.
Let's face it, we have all been there. For fuck sake just ignore him if you can't get past the fact that he's failed. We have all fucking failed at a lot in our lives, no one is perfect, stop acting like you all are.
You're in the wrong place, RKO. We don't try or attempt here, we quit.
You know how I know his excuses weren't good enough? No excuse is good enough. I will not dip no matter what. There is no reason to dip, it doesnt solve anything. It just causes slavery and cancer.
If we all had your (shitty) attitude, this site would be full of cavers, not quitters. As a matter fact, there is another site just like that. You may find it more to your liking. It does seem like your goal is to try, whereas ours is to succeed.
As far as 48, dude is a troll. He stops by here every so often, floods the site with nonsense, and then disappears. Wait a bit, then he'll come back and do it all over. He won't succeed until his attitude changes, which by the smartassedness I've seen so far, it hasn't. That tells me he isn here to quit, just stir up more shit, in which case we don't need him.
You, sir, need an attitude change yourself (if success is your goal). Continue taking up for failure if you like, but I'd suggest following success instead.
My attitude is SHITTY? SERIOUSLY? I'm on day #38 and I'm saying no to the nic bitch. I'm saying everyone including yourself has TRIED to quit before and FAILED. If you deny that you're a fucking liar.
I have stayed out of most shit but attacking people for trying to a do something good for their life is wrong in my book. Maybe it was the way I was raised. People fail a shit ton in everything before they succeed. Bill Gates didn't become a billionaire after his first idea.
My attitude is far from shitty, sir. If anyone needs a change of attitude it is you. Maybe I'm just the more supportive type and received more love as a child therefore you have to be such a fuckin asshole to everyone.
My mom and dad taught me better.
As for 48 being a troll, that's fine. Let him troll around. Ignore the guy. He wants to quit he will but far from me to say he's not welcome here or any of you for that matter.
Well said... Im ok with them giving me attitude, they dont know me so would expect nothing less. The people who do know me have all sent me messages showing thier support and thats all i need for now.
probably the farthest thing from a troll so thats why im trying to laugh all this off
Why don't you put the same kinda effort into keeping the rat shit outta your face?
...again with the word 'try'...
How about a 'DO'?
sorry... im not trying to laugh this all off, i am laughing all this off
That's the spirit. You're SURE to have success this time!
Cuz after all, this is one big fuckin' joke around here.
:rustaf1:
maybe to you, but definitely not to me
Says the serial caver.
We'll just have to see...
serial caver???
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Anyone know how to get to the wildcard section... cant seem to find it anywhere
index.php?showforum=11 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=11)
Cost of admission is quit...
Good to see you sir.
How do I get there without using the link? Good to see you too buddy
Go to the main page, scroll down to where it says "NON DIPPING DISCUSSIONS" and you should see it in there.
You're member #31 and can't find the wildcard thread?
No wonder you posted a smooth day 1 in may 12.
Oh, he's posted "smooth" day 1's in many quit groups.
I bet he still wonders why success is elusive.
Some people make things happen. Some people watch things happen. Some people wonder what happened.
When it comes to quitting, I know which category I'm in. It sounds like Highway is a wondering spectator.
Well this was a good start fellas... nice to meet you too
Ive met you damn every time you came crawling back to this site after caving.
In fact, I'm sick of meeting you.
Plan on doing any quitting, or following any advice this time, or do you plan to just come in here and talk some shit for a while and then being on your way with a fat lip once again?
Forgive me for not rolling out the red carpet for a retread caver. May 12 is a strong group. You need them a helluva lot more than they need you.
PS - If you're looking to eschew accountability, there's this other site....
I love Jesus
Sorry but if I may...
How many times have we all tried quitting and FAILED? I know I'm just a newbie to this site but away from it I have tried time and time again. This site has helped me shit tons and its great but I am probably on attempt 20 something right now.
You don't know this guy's story. I had different reasons for caving each time and it sucked ass. I don't thing the guy needs more people telling him how much he blows because he can't beat it.
He keeps coming back here for help. Some people never try to quit, at least he's making an attempt even if it has been weak in the past.
Let's face it, we have all been there. For fuck sake just ignore him if you can't get past the fact that he's failed. We have all fucking failed at a lot in our lives, no one is perfect, stop acting like you all are.
You're in the wrong place, RKO. We don't try or attempt here, we quit.
You know how I know his excuses weren't good enough? No excuse is good enough. I will not dip no matter what. There is no reason to dip, it doesnt solve anything. It just causes slavery and cancer.
If we all had your (shitty) attitude, this site would be full of cavers, not quitters. As a matter fact, there is another site just like that. You may find it more to your liking. It does seem like your goal is to try, whereas ours is to succeed.
As far as 48, dude is a troll. He stops by here every so often, floods the site with nonsense, and then disappears. Wait a bit, then he'll come back and do it all over. He won't succeed until his attitude changes, which by the smartassedness I've seen so far, it hasn't. That tells me he isn here to quit, just stir up more shit, in which case we don't need him.
You, sir, need an attitude change yourself (if success is your goal). Continue taking up for failure if you like, but I'd suggest following success instead.
My attitude is SHITTY? SERIOUSLY? I'm on day #38 and I'm saying no to the nic bitch. I'm saying everyone including yourself has TRIED to quit before and FAILED. If you deny that you're a fucking liar.
I have stayed out of most shit but attacking people for trying to a do something good for their life is wrong in my book. Maybe it was the way I was raised. People fail a shit ton in everything before they succeed. Bill Gates didn't become a billionaire after his first idea.
My attitude is far from shitty, sir. If anyone needs a change of attitude it is you. Maybe I'm just the more supportive type and received more love as a child therefore you have to be such a fuckin asshole to everyone.
My mom and dad taught me better.
As for 48 being a troll, that's fine. Let him troll around. Ignore the guy. He wants to quit he will but far from me to say he's not welcome here or any of you for that matter.
Try. Try. Try. I've about had it wih try.
Of course, I tried and failed before. The reason I failed is because I tried. I had yet to realize that the decision is mine and mine alone. Just like you right now. And unless you learn it soon, you are destined to fail.
I can try to win the lotto by buying a ticket, then it's completely out my hands. Not this. I promise you that dip will not jump into either of our mouths all by itself. If it gets there, it was put there as a result of a decision we made. A decision to fail at quitting.
I have decided that I will not fail. There is no luck involved. Period.
And all this I tell you out of support. I believe in honesty, not feelings. Sur I could say things that might make you feel better, but that isn't my goal. My goal is to help you succed in quitting. And by telling that trying is good enough, I have not helped one bit. I've only made you feel better. I promise you that once you realize the freedom you have knowing that it is entirely your decision, then you will feel much better than you would at any of my words.
If you want words aimed at making failure feel better, there is a site for that. This place is all about success, even if our honesty doesn't feel good at the moment.
Entirely your choice:
Feel good about failing briefly because someone offered kind words, or feel good about quitting because you have success, helped out by some brutal honesty along the way.
Quit or don't. No try about it.
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Anyone know how to get to the wildcard section... cant seem to find it anywhere
index.php?showforum=11 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=11)
Cost of admission is quit...
Good to see you sir.
How do I get there without using the link? Good to see you too buddy
Go to the main page, scroll down to where it says "NON DIPPING DISCUSSIONS" and you should see it in there.
You're member #31 and can't find the wildcard thread?
No wonder you posted a smooth day 1 in may 12.
Oh, he's posted "smooth" day 1's in many quit groups.
I bet he still wonders why success is elusive.
Some people make things happen. Some people watch things happen. Some people wonder what happened.
When it comes to quitting, I know which category I'm in. It sounds like Highway is a wondering spectator.
Well this was a good start fellas... nice to meet you too
Ive met you damn every time you came crawling back to this site after caving.
In fact, I'm sick of meeting you.
Plan on doing any quitting, or following any advice this time, or do you plan to just come in here and talk some shit for a while and then being on your way with a fat lip once again?
Forgive me for not rolling out the red carpet for a retread caver. May 12 is a strong group. You need them a helluva lot more than they need you.
PS - If you're looking to eschew accountability, there's this other site....
I love Jesus
Sorry but if I may...
How many times have we all tried quitting and FAILED? I know I'm just a newbie to this site but away from it I have tried time and time again. This site has helped me shit tons and its great but I am probably on attempt 20 something right now.
You don't know this guy's story. I had different reasons for caving each time and it sucked ass. I don't thing the guy needs more people telling him how much he blows because he can't beat it.
He keeps coming back here for help. Some people never try to quit, at least he's making an attempt even if it has been weak in the past.
Let's face it, we have all been there. For fuck sake just ignore him if you can't get past the fact that he's failed. We have all fucking failed at a lot in our lives, no one is perfect, stop acting like you all are.
You're in the wrong place, RKO. We don't try or attempt here, we quit.
You know how I know his excuses weren't good enough? No excuse is good enough. I will not dip no matter what. There is no reason to dip, it doesnt solve anything. It just causes slavery and cancer.
If we all had your (shitty) attitude, this site would be full of cavers, not quitters. As a matter fact, there is another site just like that. You may find it more to your liking. It does seem like your goal is to try, whereas ours is to succeed.
As far as 48, dude is a troll. He stops by here every so often, floods the site with nonsense, and then disappears. Wait a bit, then he'll come back and do it all over. He won't succeed until his attitude changes, which by the smartassedness I've seen so far, it hasn't. That tells me he isn here to quit, just stir up more shit, in which case we don't need him.
You, sir, need an attitude change yourself (if success is your goal). Continue taking up for failure if you like, but I'd suggest following success instead.
My attitude is SHITTY? SERIOUSLY? I'm on day #38 and I'm saying no to the nic bitch. I'm saying everyone including yourself has TRIED to quit before and FAILED. If you deny that you're a fucking liar.
I have stayed out of most shit but attacking people for trying to a do something good for their life is wrong in my book. Maybe it was the way I was raised. People fail a shit ton in everything before they succeed. Bill Gates didn't become a billionaire after his first idea.
My attitude is far from shitty, sir. If anyone needs a change of attitude it is you. Maybe I'm just the more supportive type and received more love as a child therefore you have to be such a fuckin asshole to everyone.
My mom and dad taught me better.
As for 48 being a troll, that's fine. Let him troll around. Ignore the guy. He wants to quit he will but far from me to say he's not welcome here or any of you for that matter.
Well said... Im ok with them giving me attitude, they dont know me so would expect nothing less. The people who do know me have all sent me messages showing thier support and thats all i need for now.
probably the farthest thing from a troll so thats why im trying to laugh all this off
Why don't you put the same kinda effort into keeping the rat shit outta your face?
...again with the word 'try'...
How about a 'DO'?
sorry... im not trying to laugh this all off, i am laughing all this off
That's the spirit. You're SURE to have success this time!
Cuz after all, this is one big fuckin' joke around here.
:rustaf1:
maybe to you, but definitely not to me
Says the serial caver.
We'll just have to see...
serial caver???
I give it a week with this big talk, then you'll fade as usual, setting up yet another failure. How long until you learn to shut up and listen? Maybe learn a few things along the way? When you start takin this seriously, showing quitting is more important to you than running that damn mouth, then you will have a chance at success. I see no change in you attitude from all your previuos failures. Why do you expect success this time? Why should we?
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Anyone know how to get to the wildcard section... cant seem to find it anywhere
index.php?showforum=11 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=11)
Cost of admission is quit...
Good to see you sir.
How do I get there without using the link? Good to see you too buddy
Go to the main page, scroll down to where it says "NON DIPPING DISCUSSIONS" and you should see it in there.
You're member #31 and can't find the wildcard thread?
No wonder you posted a smooth day 1 in may 12.
Oh, he's posted "smooth" day 1's in many quit groups.
I bet he still wonders why success is elusive.
Some people make things happen. Some people watch things happen. Some people wonder what happened.
When it comes to quitting, I know which category I'm in. It sounds like Highway is a wondering spectator.
Well this was a good start fellas... nice to meet you too
Ive met you damn every time you came crawling back to this site after caving.
In fact, I'm sick of meeting you.
Plan on doing any quitting, or following any advice this time, or do you plan to just come in here and talk some shit for a while and then being on your way with a fat lip once again?
Forgive me for not rolling out the red carpet for a retread caver. May 12 is a strong group. You need them a helluva lot more than they need you.
PS - If you're looking to eschew accountability, there's this other site....
I love Jesus
Sorry but if I may...
How many times have we all tried quitting and FAILED? I know I'm just a newbie to this site but away from it I have tried time and time again. This site has helped me shit tons and its great but I am probably on attempt 20 something right now.
You don't know this guy's story. I had different reasons for caving each time and it sucked ass. I don't thing the guy needs more people telling him how much he blows because he can't beat it.
He keeps coming back here for help. Some people never try to quit, at least he's making an attempt even if it has been weak in the past.
Let's face it, we have all been there. For fuck sake just ignore him if you can't get past the fact that he's failed. We have all fucking failed at a lot in our lives, no one is perfect, stop acting like you all are.
You're in the wrong place, RKO. We don't try or attempt here, we quit.
You know how I know his excuses weren't good enough? No excuse is good enough. I will not dip no matter what. There is no reason to dip, it doesnt solve anything. It just causes slavery and cancer.
If we all had your (shitty) attitude, this site would be full of cavers, not quitters. As a matter fact, there is another site just like that. You may find it more to your liking. It does seem like your goal is to try, whereas ours is to succeed.
As far as 48, dude is a troll. He stops by here every so often, floods the site with nonsense, and then disappears. Wait a bit, then he'll come back and do it all over. He won't succeed until his attitude changes, which by the smartassedness I've seen so far, it hasn't. That tells me he isn here to quit, just stir up more shit, in which case we don't need him.
You, sir, need an attitude change yourself (if success is your goal). Continue taking up for failure if you like, but I'd suggest following success instead.
My attitude is SHITTY? SERIOUSLY? I'm on day #38 and I'm saying no to the nic bitch. I'm saying everyone including yourself has TRIED to quit before and FAILED. If you deny that you're a fucking liar.
I have stayed out of most shit but attacking people for trying to a do something good for their life is wrong in my book. Maybe it was the way I was raised. People fail a shit ton in everything before they succeed. Bill Gates didn't become a billionaire after his first idea.
My attitude is far from shitty, sir. If anyone needs a change of attitude it is you. Maybe I'm just the more supportive type and received more love as a child therefore you have to be such a fuckin asshole to everyone.
My mom and dad taught me better.
As for 48 being a troll, that's fine. Let him troll around. Ignore the guy. He wants to quit he will but far from me to say he's not welcome here or any of you for that matter.
Well said... Im ok with them giving me attitude, they dont know me so would expect nothing less. The people who do know me have all sent me messages showing thier support and thats all i need for now.
probably the farthest thing from a troll so thats why im trying to laugh all this off
Why don't you put the same kinda effort into keeping the rat shit outta your face?
...again with the word 'try'...
How about a 'DO'?
sorry... im not trying to laugh this all off, i am laughing all this off
That's the spirit. You're SURE to have success this time!
Cuz after all, this is one big fuckin' joke around here.
:rustaf1:
maybe to you, but definitely not to me
Says the serial caver.
We'll just have to see...
serial caver???
I give it a week with this big talk, then you'll fade as usual, setting up yet another failure. How long until you learn to shut up and listen? Maybe learn a few things along the way? When you start takin this seriously, showing quitting is more important to you than running that damn mouth, then you will have a chance at success. I see no change in you attitude from all your previuos failures. Why do you expect success this time? Why should we?
66 posts in one day! You think he might have said at least one thing substantial!?
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Anyone know how to get to the wildcard section... cant seem to find it anywhere
index.php?showforum=11 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=11)
Cost of admission is quit...
Good to see you sir.
How do I get there without using the link? Good to see you too buddy
Go to the main page, scroll down to where it says "NON DIPPING DISCUSSIONS" and you should see it in there.
You're member #31 and can't find the wildcard thread?
No wonder you posted a smooth day 1 in may 12.
Oh, he's posted "smooth" day 1's in many quit groups.
I bet he still wonders why success is elusive.
Some people make things happen. Some people watch things happen. Some people wonder what happened.
When it comes to quitting, I know which category I'm in. It sounds like Highway is a wondering spectator.
Well this was a good start fellas... nice to meet you too
Ive met you damn every time you came crawling back to this site after caving.
In fact, I'm sick of meeting you.
Plan on doing any quitting, or following any advice this time, or do you plan to just come in here and talk some shit for a while and then being on your way with a fat lip once again?
Forgive me for not rolling out the red carpet for a retread caver. May 12 is a strong group. You need them a helluva lot more than they need you.
PS - If you're looking to eschew accountability, there's this other site....
I love Jesus
Sorry but if I may...
How many times have we all tried quitting and FAILED? I know I'm just a newbie to this site but away from it I have tried time and time again. This site has helped me shit tons and its great but I am probably on attempt 20 something right now.
You don't know this guy's story. I had different reasons for caving each time and it sucked ass. I don't thing the guy needs more people telling him how much he blows because he can't beat it.
He keeps coming back here for help. Some people never try to quit, at least he's making an attempt even if it has been weak in the past.
Let's face it, we have all been there. For fuck sake just ignore him if you can't get past the fact that he's failed. We have all fucking failed at a lot in our lives, no one is perfect, stop acting like you all are.
You're in the wrong place, RKO. We don't try or attempt here, we quit.
You know how I know his excuses weren't good enough? No excuse is good enough. I will not dip no matter what. There is no reason to dip, it doesnt solve anything. It just causes slavery and cancer.
If we all had your (shitty) attitude, this site would be full of cavers, not quitters. As a matter fact, there is another site just like that. You may find it more to your liking. It does seem like your goal is to try, whereas ours is to succeed.
As far as 48, dude is a troll. He stops by here every so often, floods the site with nonsense, and then disappears. Wait a bit, then he'll come back and do it all over. He won't succeed until his attitude changes, which by the smartassedness I've seen so far, it hasn't. That tells me he isn here to quit, just stir up more shit, in which case we don't need him.
You, sir, need an attitude change yourself (if success is your goal). Continue taking up for failure if you like, but I'd suggest following success instead.
My attitude is SHITTY? SERIOUSLY? I'm on day #38 and I'm saying no to the nic bitch. I'm saying everyone including yourself has TRIED to quit before and FAILED. If you deny that you're a fucking liar.
I have stayed out of most shit but attacking people for trying to a do something good for their life is wrong in my book. Maybe it was the way I was raised. People fail a shit ton in everything before they succeed. Bill Gates didn't become a billionaire after his first idea.
My attitude is far from shitty, sir. If anyone needs a change of attitude it is you. Maybe I'm just the more supportive type and received more love as a child therefore you have to be such a fuckin asshole to everyone.
My mom and dad taught me better.
As for 48 being a troll, that's fine. Let him troll around. Ignore the guy. He wants to quit he will but far from me to say he's not welcome here or any of you for that matter.
Well said... Im ok with them giving me attitude, they dont know me so would expect nothing less. The people who do know me have all sent me messages showing thier support and thats all i need for now.
probably the farthest thing from a troll so thats why im trying to laugh all this off
Why don't you put the same kinda effort into keeping the rat shit outta your face?
...again with the word 'try'...
How about a 'DO'?
sorry... im not trying to laugh this all off, i am laughing all this off
That's the spirit. You're SURE to have success this time!
Cuz after all, this is one big fuckin' joke around here.
:rustaf1:
maybe to you, but definitely not to me
Says the serial caver.
We'll just have to see...
serial caver???
I give it a week with this big talk, then you'll fade as usual, setting up yet another failure. How long until you learn to shut up and listen? Maybe learn a few things along the way? When you start takin this seriously, showing quitting is more important to you than running that damn mouth, then you will have a chance at success. I see no change in you attitude from all your previuos failures. Why do you expect success this time? Why should we?
66 posts in one day! You think he might have said at least one thing substantial!?
if talking shit on these boards helps keep me away from the can then why stop... You keep saying do whatever it takes to keep the shit out of my mouth...
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Anyone know how to get to the wildcard section... cant seem to find it anywhere
index.php?showforum=11 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=11)
Cost of admission is quit...
Good to see you sir.
How do I get there without using the link? Good to see you too buddy
Go to the main page, scroll down to where it says "NON DIPPING DISCUSSIONS" and you should see it in there.
You're member #31 and can't find the wildcard thread?
No wonder you posted a smooth day 1 in may 12.
Oh, he's posted "smooth" day 1's in many quit groups.
I bet he still wonders why success is elusive.
Some people make things happen. Some people watch things happen. Some people wonder what happened.
When it comes to quitting, I know which category I'm in. It sounds like Highway is a wondering spectator.
Well this was a good start fellas... nice to meet you too
Ive met you damn every time you came crawling back to this site after caving.
In fact, I'm sick of meeting you.
Plan on doing any quitting, or following any advice this time, or do you plan to just come in here and talk some shit for a while and then being on your way with a fat lip once again?
Forgive me for not rolling out the red carpet for a retread caver. May 12 is a strong group. You need them a helluva lot more than they need you.
PS - If you're looking to eschew accountability, there's this other site....
I love Jesus
Sorry but if I may...
How many times have we all tried quitting and FAILED? I know I'm just a newbie to this site but away from it I have tried time and time again. This site has helped me shit tons and its great but I am probably on attempt 20 something right now.
You don't know this guy's story. I had different reasons for caving each time and it sucked ass. I don't thing the guy needs more people telling him how much he blows because he can't beat it.
He keeps coming back here for help. Some people never try to quit, at least he's making an attempt even if it has been weak in the past.
Let's face it, we have all been there. For fuck sake just ignore him if you can't get past the fact that he's failed. We have all fucking failed at a lot in our lives, no one is perfect, stop acting like you all are.
You're in the wrong place, RKO. We don't try or attempt here, we quit.
You know how I know his excuses weren't good enough? No excuse is good enough. I will not dip no matter what. There is no reason to dip, it doesnt solve anything. It just causes slavery and cancer.
If we all had your (shitty) attitude, this site would be full of cavers, not quitters. As a matter fact, there is another site just like that. You may find it more to your liking. It does seem like your goal is to try, whereas ours is to succeed.
As far as 48, dude is a troll. He stops by here every so often, floods the site with nonsense, and then disappears. Wait a bit, then he'll come back and do it all over. He won't succeed until his attitude changes, which by the smartassedness I've seen so far, it hasn't. That tells me he isn here to quit, just stir up more shit, in which case we don't need him.
You, sir, need an attitude change yourself (if success is your goal). Continue taking up for failure if you like, but I'd suggest following success instead.
My attitude is SHITTY? SERIOUSLY? I'm on day #38 and I'm saying no to the nic bitch. I'm saying everyone including yourself has TRIED to quit before and FAILED. If you deny that you're a fucking liar.
I have stayed out of most shit but attacking people for trying to a do something good for their life is wrong in my book. Maybe it was the way I was raised. People fail a shit ton in everything before they succeed. Bill Gates didn't become a billionaire after his first idea.
My attitude is far from shitty, sir. If anyone needs a change of attitude it is you. Maybe I'm just the more supportive type and received more love as a child therefore you have to be such a fuckin asshole to everyone.
My mom and dad taught me better.
As for 48 being a troll, that's fine. Let him troll around. Ignore the guy. He wants to quit he will but far from me to say he's not welcome here or any of you for that matter.
Well said... Im ok with them giving me attitude, they dont know me so would expect nothing less. The people who do know me have all sent me messages showing thier support and thats all i need for now.
probably the farthest thing from a troll so thats why im trying to laugh all this off
Why don't you put the same kinda effort into keeping the rat shit outta your face?
...again with the word 'try'...
How about a 'DO'?
sorry... im not trying to laugh this all off, i am laughing all this off
That's the spirit. You're SURE to have success this time!
Cuz after all, this is one big fuckin' joke around here.
:rustaf1:
maybe to you, but definitely not to me
Says the serial caver.
We'll just have to see...
serial caver???
I give it a week with this big talk, then you'll fade as usual, setting up yet another failure. How long until you learn to shut up and listen? Maybe learn a few things along the way? When you start takin this seriously, showing quitting is more important to you than running that damn mouth, then you will have a chance at success. I see no change in you attitude from all your previuos failures. Why do you expect success this time? Why should we?
66 posts in one day! You think he might have said at least one thing substantial!?
if talking shit on these boards helps keep me away from the can then why stop... You keep saying do whatever it takes to keep the shit out of my mouth...
How did all that shit talking work for you the last time you were a visitor here?
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Anyone know how to get to the wildcard section... cant seem to find it anywhere
index.php?showforum=11 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=11)
Cost of admission is quit...
Good to see you sir.
How do I get there without using the link? Good to see you too buddy
Go to the main page, scroll down to where it says "NON DIPPING DISCUSSIONS" and you should see it in there.
You're member #31 and can't find the wildcard thread?
No wonder you posted a smooth day 1 in may 12.
Oh, he's posted "smooth" day 1's in many quit groups.
I bet he still wonders why success is elusive.
Some people make things happen. Some people watch things happen. Some people wonder what happened.
When it comes to quitting, I know which category I'm in. It sounds like Highway is a wondering spectator.
Well this was a good start fellas... nice to meet you too
Ive met you damn every time you came crawling back to this site after caving.
In fact, I'm sick of meeting you.
Plan on doing any quitting, or following any advice this time, or do you plan to just come in here and talk some shit for a while and then being on your way with a fat lip once again?
Forgive me for not rolling out the red carpet for a retread caver. May 12 is a strong group. You need them a helluva lot more than they need you.
PS - If you're looking to eschew accountability, there's this other site....
I love Jesus
Sorry but if I may...
How many times have we all tried quitting and FAILED? I know I'm just a newbie to this site but away from it I have tried time and time again. This site has helped me shit tons and its great but I am probably on attempt 20 something right now.
You don't know this guy's story. I had different reasons for caving each time and it sucked ass. I don't thing the guy needs more people telling him how much he blows because he can't beat it.
He keeps coming back here for help. Some people never try to quit, at least he's making an attempt even if it has been weak in the past.
Let's face it, we have all been there. For fuck sake just ignore him if you can't get past the fact that he's failed. We have all fucking failed at a lot in our lives, no one is perfect, stop acting like you all are.
You're in the wrong place, RKO. We don't try or attempt here, we quit.
You know how I know his excuses weren't good enough? No excuse is good enough. I will not dip no matter what. There is no reason to dip, it doesnt solve anything. It just causes slavery and cancer.
If we all had your (shitty) attitude, this site would be full of cavers, not quitters. As a matter fact, there is another site just like that. You may find it more to your liking. It does seem like your goal is to try, whereas ours is to succeed.
As far as 48, dude is a troll. He stops by here every so often, floods the site with nonsense, and then disappears. Wait a bit, then he'll come back and do it all over. He won't succeed until his attitude changes, which by the smartassedness I've seen so far, it hasn't. That tells me he isn here to quit, just stir up more shit, in which case we don't need him.
You, sir, need an attitude change yourself (if success is your goal). Continue taking up for failure if you like, but I'd suggest following success instead.
My attitude is SHITTY? SERIOUSLY? I'm on day #38 and I'm saying no to the nic bitch. I'm saying everyone including yourself has TRIED to quit before and FAILED. If you deny that you're a fucking liar.
I have stayed out of most shit but attacking people for trying to a do something good for their life is wrong in my book. Maybe it was the way I was raised. People fail a shit ton in everything before they succeed. Bill Gates didn't become a billionaire after his first idea.
My attitude is far from shitty, sir. If anyone needs a change of attitude it is you. Maybe I'm just the more supportive type and received more love as a child therefore you have to be such a fuckin asshole to everyone.
My mom and dad taught me better.
As for 48 being a troll, that's fine. Let him troll around. Ignore the guy. He wants to quit he will but far from me to say he's not welcome here or any of you for that matter.
Well said... Im ok with them giving me attitude, they dont know me so would expect nothing less. The people who do know me have all sent me messages showing thier support and thats all i need for now.
probably the farthest thing from a troll so thats why im trying to laugh all this off
Why don't you put the same kinda effort into keeping the rat shit outta your face?
...again with the word 'try'...
How about a 'DO'?
sorry... im not trying to laugh this all off, i am laughing all this off
That's the spirit. You're SURE to have success this time!
Cuz after all, this is one big fuckin' joke around here.
:rustaf1:
maybe to you, but definitely not to me
Says the serial caver.
We'll just have to see...
serial caver???
I give it a week with this big talk, then you'll fade as usual, setting up yet another failure. How long until you learn to shut up and listen? Maybe learn a few things along the way? When you start takin this seriously, showing quitting is more important to you than running that damn mouth, then you will have a chance at success. I see no change in you attitude from all your previuos failures. Why do you expect success this time? Why should we?
66 posts in one day! You think he might have said at least one thing substantial!?
if talking shit on these boards helps keep me away from the can then why stop... You keep saying do whatever it takes to keep the shit out of my mouth...
How did all that shit talking work for you the last time you were a visitor here?
Dont know what ur talking about
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Anyone know how to get to the wildcard section... cant seem to find it anywhere
index.php?showforum=11 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=11)
Cost of admission is quit...
Good to see you sir.
How do I get there without using the link? Good to see you too buddy
Go to the main page, scroll down to where it says "NON DIPPING DISCUSSIONS" and you should see it in there.
You're member #31 and can't find the wildcard thread?
No wonder you posted a smooth day 1 in may 12.
Oh, he's posted "smooth" day 1's in many quit groups.
I bet he still wonders why success is elusive.
Some people make things happen. Some people watch things happen. Some people wonder what happened.
When it comes to quitting, I know which category I'm in. It sounds like Highway is a wondering spectator.
Well this was a good start fellas... nice to meet you too
Ive met you damn every time you came crawling back to this site after caving.
In fact, I'm sick of meeting you.
Plan on doing any quitting, or following any advice this time, or do you plan to just come in here and talk some shit for a while and then being on your way with a fat lip once again?
Forgive me for not rolling out the red carpet for a retread caver. May 12 is a strong group. You need them a helluva lot more than they need you.
PS - If you're looking to eschew accountability, there's this other site....
I love Jesus
Sorry but if I may...
How many times have we all tried quitting and FAILED? I know I'm just a newbie to this site but away from it I have tried time and time again. This site has helped me shit tons and its great but I am probably on attempt 20 something right now.
You don't know this guy's story. I had different reasons for caving each time and it sucked ass. I don't thing the guy needs more people telling him how much he blows because he can't beat it.
He keeps coming back here for help. Some people never try to quit, at least he's making an attempt even if it has been weak in the past.
Let's face it, we have all been there. For fuck sake just ignore him if you can't get past the fact that he's failed. We have all fucking failed at a lot in our lives, no one is perfect, stop acting like you all are.
You're in the wrong place, RKO. We don't try or attempt here, we quit.
You know how I know his excuses weren't good enough? No excuse is good enough. I will not dip no matter what. There is no reason to dip, it doesnt solve anything. It just causes slavery and cancer.
If we all had your (shitty) attitude, this site would be full of cavers, not quitters. As a matter fact, there is another site just like that. You may find it more to your liking. It does seem like your goal is to try, whereas ours is to succeed.
As far as 48, dude is a troll. He stops by here every so often, floods the site with nonsense, and then disappears. Wait a bit, then he'll come back and do it all over. He won't succeed until his attitude changes, which by the smartassedness I've seen so far, it hasn't. That tells me he isn here to quit, just stir up more shit, in which case we don't need him.
You, sir, need an attitude change yourself (if success is your goal). Continue taking up for failure if you like, but I'd suggest following success instead.
My attitude is SHITTY? SERIOUSLY? I'm on day #38 and I'm saying no to the nic bitch. I'm saying everyone including yourself has TRIED to quit before and FAILED. If you deny that you're a fucking liar.
I have stayed out of most shit but attacking people for trying to a do something good for their life is wrong in my book. Maybe it was the way I was raised. People fail a shit ton in everything before they succeed. Bill Gates didn't become a billionaire after his first idea.
My attitude is far from shitty, sir. If anyone needs a change of attitude it is you. Maybe I'm just the more supportive type and received more love as a child therefore you have to be such a fuckin asshole to everyone.
My mom and dad taught me better.
As for 48 being a troll, that's fine. Let him troll around. Ignore the guy. He wants to quit he will but far from me to say he's not welcome here or any of you for that matter.
Well said... Im ok with them giving me attitude, they dont know me so would expect nothing less. The people who do know me have all sent me messages showing thier support and thats all i need for now.
probably the farthest thing from a troll so thats why im trying to laugh all this off
Why don't you put the same kinda effort into keeping the rat shit outta your face?
...again with the word 'try'...
How about a 'DO'?
sorry... im not trying to laugh this all off, i am laughing all this off
That's the spirit. You're SURE to have success this time!
Cuz after all, this is one big fuckin' joke around here.
:rustaf1:
maybe to you, but definitely not to me
Says the serial caver.
We'll just have to see...
serial caver???
I give it a week with this big talk, then you'll fade as usual, setting up yet another failure. How long until you learn to shut up and listen? Maybe learn a few things along the way? When you start takin this seriously, showing quitting is more important to you than running that damn mouth, then you will have a chance at success. I see no change in you attitude from all your previuos failures. Why do you expect success this time? Why should we?
66 posts in one day! You think he might have said at least one thing substantial!?
if talking shit on these boards helps keep me away from the can then why stop... You keep saying do whatever it takes to keep the shit out of my mouth...
How did all that shit talking work for you the last time you were a visitor here?
Dont know what ur talking about
Convienent amnesia
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So in other news... we're creeping up on 11,000 members... boo ya!
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So in other news... we're creeping up on 11,000 members... boo ya!
Out-fucking-standing.
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So in other news... we're creeping up on 11,000 members... boo ya!
Out-fucking-standing.
Boo Boo Ya Ya!
Working toward a lot of victories . . . .
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So in other news... we're creeping up on 11,000 members... boo ya!
Out-fucking-standing.
Boo Boo Ya Ya!
Working toward a lot of victories . . . .
Wow. That is awesome!
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So in other news... we're creeping up on 11,000 members... boo ya!
Hahaha... you know neither of those two are gonna let me get the last word
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So in other news... we're creeping up on 11,000 members... boo ya!
Out-fucking-standing.
Boo Boo Ya Ya!
Working toward a lot of victories . . . .
Wow. That is awesome!
Dyn-o-mite!
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So in other news... we're creeping up on 11,000 members... boo ya!
Out-fucking-standing.
Boo Boo Ya Ya!
Working toward a lot of victories . . . .
Wow. That is awesome!
Dyn-o-mite!
BAM
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So in other news... we're creeping up on 11,000 members... boo ya!
Out-fucking-standing.
Boo Boo Ya Ya!
Working toward a lot of victories . . . .
Wow. That is awesome!
Dyn-o-mite!
BAM
Boom shak-a-laka! Sweet.
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What was happening at 2:10 AM this morning to attract 185 users?
Doesn't anyone sleep around here?
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What was happening at 2:10 AM this morning to attract 185 users?
Doesn't anyone sleep around here?
Guilty. I was up parading about the site. The quit is strong with the brotherhood and those interested!
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So in other news... we're creeping up on 11,000 members... boo ya!
Out-fucking-standing.
Boo Boo Ya Ya!
Working toward a lot of victories . . . .
Wow. That is awesome!
Dyn-o-mite!
BAM
Boom shak-a-laka! Sweet.
NBA Jam circa 1993
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What was happening at 2:10 AM this morning to attract 185 users?
Doesn't anyone sleep around here?
Guilty. I was up parading about the site. The quit is strong with the brotherhood and those interested!
This is when all the cool stuff happens that we don't let the others know about...
Crap, broke the first rule of fight club!!!! 'bang head'
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What was happening at 2:10 AM this morning to attract 185 users?
Doesn't anyone sleep around here?
Guilty. I was up parading about the site. The quit is strong with the brotherhood and those interested!
This is when all the cool stuff happens that we don't let the others know about...
Crap, broke the first rule of fight club!!!! 'bang head'
well now the cat is out of the bag
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Hello, I'm a young man who's been dipping for a little over a year now and even though all my friends dip and dipping is a strong part of my lifestyle already, I've seriously been considering quitting. However, I'm still in school and on top of my schoolwork i'm a committed winter/spring athlete and i have a job; I'm worried that quitting right now and the consequent effects of withdrawal would have negative effects on my performance in school and sports, areas that i really have no room for error in. can anyone offer any insight on this?
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Hello, I'm a young man who's been dipping for a little over a year now and even though all my friends dip and dipping is a strong part of my lifestyle already, I've seriously been considering quitting. However, I'm still in school and on top of my schoolwork i'm a committed winter/spring athlete and i have a job; I'm worried that quitting right now and the consequent effects of withdrawal would have negative effects on my performance in school and sports, areas that i really have no room for error in. can anyone offer any insight on this?
So when would be a more convenient time to quit? There is none!
How much longer do you want to risk oral cancer? Not one more moment!
Do you really think that dip helped your performance in school or in sports? It didn't!
My insight: quit now and save your life.
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Hello, I'm a young man who's been dipping for a little over a year now and even though all my friends dip and dipping is a strong part of my lifestyle already, I've seriously been considering quitting. However, I'm still in school and on top of my schoolwork i'm a committed winter/spring athlete and i have a job; I'm worried that quitting right now and the consequent effects of withdrawal would have negative effects on my performance in school and sports, areas that i really have no room for error in. can anyone offer any insight on this?
So when would be a more convenient time to quit? There is none!
How much longer do you want to risk oral cancer? Not one more moment!
Do you really think that dip helped your performance in school or in sports? It didn't!
My insight: quit now and save your life.
How will your Chemotherapy treatments interfere with your athletic performance and school work?
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Hello, I'm a young man who's been dipping for a little over a year now and even though all my friends dip and dipping is a strong part of my lifestyle already, I've seriously been considering quitting. However, I'm still in school and on top of my schoolwork i'm a committed winter/spring athlete and i have a job; I'm worried that quitting right now and the consequent effects of withdrawal would have negative effects on my performance in school and sports, areas that i really have no room for error in. can anyone offer any insight on this?
So when would be a more convenient time to quit? There is none!
How much longer do you want to risk oral cancer? Not one more moment!
Do you really think that dip helped your performance in school or in sports? It didn't!
My insight: quit now and save your life.
How will your Chemotherapy treatments interfere with your athletic performance and school work?
Here's what I read in your above post:
"I don't really want to quit yet."
Those are classic reasons, read: shitty excuses, not to quit right now.
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Hello, I'm a young man who's been dipping for a little over a year now and even though all my friends dip and dipping is a strong part of my lifestyle already, I've seriously been considering quitting. However, I'm still in school and on top of my schoolwork i'm a committed winter/spring athlete and i have a job; I'm worried that quitting right now and the consequent effects of withdrawal would have negative effects on my performance in school and sports, areas that i really have no room for error in. can anyone offer any insight on this?
So when would be a more convenient time to quit? There is none!
How much longer do you want to risk oral cancer? Not one more moment!
Do you really think that dip helped your performance in school or in sports? It didn't!
My insight: quit now and save your life.
How will your Chemotherapy treatments interfere with your athletic performance and school work?
Here's what I read in your above post:
"I don't really want to quit yet."
Those are classic reasons, read: shitty excuses, not to quit right now.
who calls themselves a young man??? sounds a little fishy to me
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I was thinking summer when I don't gave as much responsibility...I mean the majority of you people are grown ass men whose only responsibility is working 9-5. Not to disrespect or anything but instead of bashing me for "not really wanting to quit", is there anyone on here without their head shoved up their asshole that can actually tell me what I can expect during a quit process? Cause that's what I was asking for in the first place and I know damn well it sucks serious dick before it gets better.
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I was thinking summer when I don't gave as much responsibility...I mean the majority of you people are grown ass men whose only responsibility is working 9-5. Not to disrespect or anything but instead of bashing me for "not really wanting to quit", is there anyone on here without their head shoved up their asshole that can actually tell me what I can expect during a quit process? Cause that's what I was asking for in the first place and I know damn well it sucks serious dick before it gets better.
How old are you?
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I was thinking summer when I don't gave as much responsibility...I mean the majority of you people are grown ass men whose only responsibility is working 9-5. Not to disrespect or anything but instead of bashing me for "not really wanting to quit", is there anyone on here without their head shoved up their asshole that can actually tell me what I can expect during a quit process? Cause that's what I was asking for in the first place and I know damn well it sucks serious dick before it gets better.
Read these articles to get a better understanding:
Quitter Stories (http://www.killthecan.org/facts/cancerfacts.asp)
You are a nicotine addict. An addict will always have an excuse to keep using. Tomorrow never comes. The folks on here are fighting in wars, EMT's, firemen, policemen, executives with multi-billion dollar companies, fathers supporting families, going through divorces, burying loved ones - no responsibility at all compared to a student athlete.
The guys below answered the question you asked. Pull your panties out of your crouch and listen. You can choose to make excuses to continue your life of addicted slavery, or you can choose to fight for your freedom. Your choice.
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I was thinking summer when I don't gave as much responsibility...I mean the majority of you people are grown ass men whose only responsibility is working 9-5. Not to disrespect or anything but instead of bashing me for "not really wanting to quit", is there anyone on here without their head shoved up their asshole that can actually tell me what I can expect during a quit process? Cause that's what I was asking for in the first place and I know damn well it sucks serious dick before it gets better.
Nice.
A poor little working student athlete has it so much harder than a working stiff. Right. Your life is way harder than anyone else's. We just can't imagine what it is like working as hard as you do. Does that make you feel special, snowflake?
Truth of the matter is that we've all been where you are, and until you are ready to actually listen to people who are quit and not slaves, there is really very little point in talking to you.
And quitting only sucks if you let it. It ain't fun, but each crave that is defeated is a victory to be celebrated. You get to show everyone how much tougher your will is than your addiction.
But you already knew that, didn't you. Get busy quitting or get busy dying.
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I was thinking summer when I don't gave as much responsibility...I mean the majority of you people are grown ass men whose only responsibility is working 9-5. Not to disrespect or anything but instead of bashing me for "not really wanting to quit", is there anyone on here without their head shoved up their asshole that can actually tell me what I can expect during a quit process? Cause that's what I was asking for in the first place and I know damn well it sucks serious dick before it gets better.
Oh, p.s. If you ever do quit, you'll look back and think the addict you calling us quitters "people with their heads shoved up their assholes" is wonderfully ironic. I know I do.
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I was thinking summer when I don't gave as much responsibility...I mean the majority of you people are grown ass men whose only responsibility is working 9-5. Not to disrespect or anything but instead of bashing me for "not really wanting to quit", is there anyone on here without their head shoved up their asshole that can actually tell me what I can expect during a quit process? Cause that's what I was asking for in the first place and I know damn well it sucks serious dick before it gets better.
Oh, p.s. If you ever do quit, you'll look back and think the addict you calling us quitters "people with their heads shoved up their assholes" is wonderfully ironic. I know I do.
Responsibilities huh?
I am 26, going full time to college, full time job, two young kids (4 years and 18 months), extra job during the summer...
You want to talk with me about responsibilities. And when I quit my daughter was only 6 months old. So along with having to stay up late getting school papers done I was having to wake up half way through the night to care for the her.
If you want to talk about responsibilities yours likely pale in comparison to mine and a lot of others on here.
But guess what I did? Got my head out of my ass and QUIT. This is the irony Dchogs is talking about, its not us with our heads in our asses, but it use to be when all of us where making bullshit excuses to not man up. Might want to start thinking about doing the same for yourself.
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I was thinking summer when I don't gave as much responsibility...I mean the majority of you people are grown ass men whose only responsibility is working 9-5. Not to disrespect or anything but instead of bashing me for "not really wanting to quit", is there anyone on here without their head shoved up their asshole that can actually tell me what I can expect during a quit process? Cause that's what I was asking for in the first place and I know damn well it sucks serious dick before it gets better.
Fuck you. You don't deserve what I have.
But if you REALLY want it...I'll help you get it.
Do you know what 'IT' is?
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Today's my first post here; I'm 34, a Financial Advisor (lots of stress), going through divorce at moment (not as much stress, and will resolve itself in time). I've dipped for too long-1996 was my first chew, basically Skoal on and off for about 4-5 years, and then Kodiak pretty much since then. Quit once, for 4 months, from my 23rd bday (7/20/00) to Thanksgiving night 2000, driving back to NJ from Boston. But, I realize, it's time to give it up. I haven't had problems yet, apart from stained teeth, but I know the odds aren't in my favor.
Right now, because I have a longer drive to my office (due to divorce issues, I left the house before my crazy to-be-ex could do anything), I started getting up to almost a tin a day--too much. What I am doing is taking my intake down gradually-for example, I have 1.5 hr drive each way (Middlesex Cty down to Atlantic City), so yesterday, I chew gum in the car to, and on the way home.
I used to have a few chews during the day--no more.
Yesterday morning, had a client call, and was missing some information-I felt the stress kick up and reached for the tin--ok, not great, but I know the triggers, so I can be aware of them.
Today, on the drive to and from, no chew. Also, just a tiny chew at my desk abt 8:30 (for about 10-15 mins) and nothing else all day. I felt a little funny, but otherwise good--my body felt different, better, and my mouth felt good. Better than in a long time. No chews immediately after meals.
Had some cravings today, but kept myself from going to Wawa. Brushed my teeth in bathroom, drank water, ate some potato chips.
I had one chew tonight, about 945 or so-my plan is to take my intake down to 1 per day, at night, for the duration of this tin, and slowly wean myself off nicotine. I had read good things about this Hooch brand, wintergreen, as a replacement for the Bear. I will have to order some. Please share any comments or feedback as would be appropriate. Ideally, I will bring the Bear down, and use the Hooch in its place, at night, and gradually bring the nic in my system down, and then hopefully, as the nic levels in my blood decrease, I can either continue with chewing gum, and use Hooch for during golf, fishing, etc, where I had Kodiak in the past. Thanks.
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Today's my first post here; I'm 34, a Financial Advisor (lots of stress), going through divorce at moment (not as much stress, and will resolve itself in time). I've dipped for too long-1996 was my first chew, basically Skoal on and off for about 4-5 years, and then Kodiak pretty much since then. Quit once, for 4 months, from my 23rd bday (7/20/00) to Thanksgiving night 2000, driving back to NJ from Boston. But, I realize, it's time to give it up. I haven't had problems yet, apart from stained teeth, but I know the odds aren't in my favor.
Right now, because I have a longer drive to my office (due to divorce issues, I left the house before my crazy to-be-ex could do anything), I started getting up to almost a tin a day--too much. What I am doing is taking my intake down gradually-for example, I have 1.5 hr drive each way (Middlesex Cty down to Atlantic City), so yesterday, I chew gum in the car to, and on the way home.
I used to have a few chews during the day--no more.
Yesterday morning, had a client call, and was missing some information-I felt the stress kick up and reached for the tin--ok, not great, but I know the triggers, so I can be aware of them.
Today, on the drive to and from, no chew. Also, just a tiny chew at my desk abt 8:30 (for about 10-15 mins) and nothing else all day. I felt a little funny, but otherwise good--my body felt different, better, and my mouth felt good. Better than in a long time. No chews immediately after meals.
Had some cravings today, but kept myself from going to Wawa. Brushed my teeth in bathroom, drank water, ate some potato chips.
I had one chew tonight, about 945 or so-my plan is to take my intake down to 1 per day, at night, for the duration of this tin, and slowly wean myself off nicotine. I had read good things about this Hooch brand, wintergreen, as a replacement for the Bear. I will have to order some. Please share any comments or feedback as would be appropriate. Ideally, I will bring the Bear down, and use the Hooch in its place, at night, and gradually bring the nic in my system down, and then hopefully, as the nic levels in my blood decrease, I can either continue with chewing gum, and use Hooch for during golf, fishing, etc, where I had Kodiak in the past. Thanks.
Hey bub...don't take this the wrong way, but you're an addict. So am I.
Throw your shit in the toilet and flush. Stuff your face with Hooch all you want, but there is no 'weening'.
Cold turkey.
Grab your balls.
You can do this, we can help.
Nicotine sucks.
Post roll.
Keep your WORD.
Repeat.
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Today's my first post here; I'm 34, a Financial Advisor (lots of stress), going through divorce at moment (not as much stress, and will resolve itself in time). I've dipped for too long-1996 was my first chew, basically Skoal on and off for about 4-5 years, and then Kodiak pretty much since then. Quit once, for 4 months, from my 23rd bday (7/20/00) to Thanksgiving night 2000, driving back to NJ from Boston. But, I realize, it's time to give it up. I haven't had problems yet, apart from stained teeth, but I know the odds aren't in my favor.Â
Right now, because I have a longer drive to my office (due to divorce issues, I left the house before my crazy to-be-ex could do anything), I started getting up to almost a tin a day--too much. What I am doing is taking my intake down gradually-for example, I have 1.5 hr drive each way (Middlesex Cty down to Atlantic City), so yesterday, I chew gum in the car to, and on the way home.Â
I used to have a few chews during the day--no more.Â
Yesterday morning, had a client call, and was missing some information-I felt the stress kick up and reached for the tin--ok, not great, but I know the triggers, so I can be aware of them. Â
Today, on the drive to and from, no chew. Also, just a tiny chew at my desk abt 8:30 (for about 10-15 mins) and nothing else all day. I felt a little funny, but otherwise good--my body felt different, better, and my mouth felt good. Better than in a long time. No chews immediately after meals.Â
Had some cravings today, but kept myself from going to Wawa. Brushed my teeth in bathroom, drank water, ate some potato chips.
I had one chew tonight, about 945 or so-my plan is to take my intake down to 1 per day, at night, for the duration of this tin, and slowly wean myself off nicotine. I had read good things about this Hooch brand, wintergreen, as a replacement for the Bear. I will have to order some. Please share any comments or feedback as would be appropriate. Ideally, I will bring the Bear down, and use the Hooch in its place, at night, and gradually bring the nic in my system down, and then hopefully, as the nic levels in my blood decrease, I can either continue with chewing gum, and use Hooch for during golf, fishing, etc, where I had Kodiak in the past. Thanks.
Hey bub...don't take this the wrong way, but you're an addict. So am I.
Throw your shit in the toilet and flush. Stuff your face with Hooch all you want, but there is no 'weening'.
Cold turkey.
Grab your balls.
You can do this, we can help.
Nicotine sucks.
Post roll.
Keep your WORD.
Repeat.
No offense taken. I am an addict. And I openly admit it. I wish it never got this way, but it is what it is. But I'm going to do this.
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Today's my first post here; I'm 34, a Financial Advisor (lots of stress), going through divorce at moment (not as much stress, and will resolve itself in time). I've dipped for too long-1996 was my first chew, basically Skoal on and off for about 4-5 years, and then Kodiak pretty much since then. Quit once, for 4 months, from my 23rd bday (7/20/00) to Thanksgiving night 2000, driving back to NJ from Boston. But, I realize, it's time to give it up. I haven't had problems yet, apart from stained teeth, but I know the odds aren't in my favor.Â
Right now, because I have a longer drive to my office (due to divorce issues, I left the house before my crazy to-be-ex could do anything), I started getting up to almost a tin a day--too much. What I am doing is taking my intake down gradually-for example, I have 1.5 hr drive each way (Middlesex Cty down to Atlantic City), so yesterday, I chew gum in the car to, and on the way home.Â
I used to have a few chews during the day--no more.Â
Yesterday morning, had a client call, and was missing some information-I felt the stress kick up and reached for the tin--ok, not great, but I know the triggers, so I can be aware of them. Â
Today, on the drive to and from, no chew. Also, just a tiny chew at my desk abt 8:30 (for about 10-15 mins) and nothing else all day. I felt a little funny, but otherwise good--my body felt different, better, and my mouth felt good. Better than in a long time. No chews immediately after meals.Â
Had some cravings today, but kept myself from going to Wawa. Brushed my teeth in bathroom, drank water, ate some potato chips.
I had one chew tonight, about 945 or so-my plan is to take my intake down to 1 per day, at night, for the duration of this tin, and slowly wean myself off nicotine.  I had read good things about this Hooch brand, wintergreen, as a replacement for the Bear. I will have to order some. Please share any comments or feedback as would be appropriate. Ideally, I will bring the Bear down, and use the Hooch in its place, at night, and gradually bring the nic in my system down, and then hopefully, as the nic levels in my blood decrease, I can either continue with chewing gum, and use Hooch for during golf, fishing, etc, where I had Kodiak in the past. Thanks.
Hey bub...don't take this the wrong way, but you're an addict. So am I.
Throw your shit in the toilet and flush. Stuff your face with Hooch all you want, but there is no 'weening'.
Cold turkey.
Grab your balls.
You can do this, we can help.
Nicotine sucks.
Post roll.
Keep your WORD.
Repeat.
No offense taken. I am an addict. And I openly admit it. I wish it never got this way, but it is what it is. But I'm going to do this.
We're doing this. Flush all nicotine and join us. The only way to quit using is to stop ingesting what you're addicted to. Weening does not work. Most of us tried it, too. Cold turkey. Today. Not another second.
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Today's my first post here; I'm 34, a Financial Advisor (lots of stress), going through divorce at moment (not as much stress, and will resolve itself in time).� I've dipped for too long-1996 was my first chew, basically Skoal on and off for about 4-5 years, and then Kodiak pretty much since then.� Quit once, for 4 months, from my 23rd bday (7/20/00) to Thanksgiving night 2000, driving back to NJ from Boston.� But, I realize, it's time to give it up.� I haven't had problems yet, apart from stained teeth, but I know the odds aren't in my favor.�
Right now, because I have a longer drive to my office (due to divorce issues, I left the house before my crazy to-be-ex could do anything), I started getting up to almost a tin a day--too much.� What I am doing is taking my intake down gradually-for example, I have 1.5 hr drive each way (Middlesex Cty down to Atlantic City), so yesterday, I chew gum in the car to, and on the way home.�
I used to have a few chews during the day--no more.�
Yesterday morning, had a client call, and was missing some information-I felt the stress kick up and reached for the tin--ok, not great, but I know the triggers, so I can be aware of them.� �
Today, on the drive to and from, no chew.� Also, just a tiny chew at my desk abt 8:30 (for about 10-15 mins) and nothing else all day.� I felt a little funny, but otherwise good--my body felt different, better, and my mouth felt good.� Better than in a long time.� No chews immediately after meals.�
Had some cravings today, but kept myself from going to Wawa.� Brushed my teeth in bathroom, drank water, ate some potato chips.
I had one chew tonight, about 945 or so-my plan is to take my intake down to 1 per day, at night, for the duration of this tin, and slowly wean myself off nicotine.� I had read good things about this Hooch brand, wintergreen, as a replacement for the Bear.� I will have to order some.� Please share any comments or feedback as would be appropriate.� Ideally, I will bring the Bear down, and use the Hooch in its place, at night, and gradually bring the nic in my system down, and then hopefully, as the nic levels in my blood decrease, I can either continue with chewing gum, and use Hooch for during golf, fishing, etc, where I had Kodiak in the past.� Thanks.
Hey bub...don't take this the wrong way, but you're an addict. So am I.
Throw your shit in the toilet and flush. Stuff your face with Hooch all you want, but there is no 'weening'.
Cold turkey.
Grab your balls.
You can do this, we can help.
Nicotine sucks.
Post roll.
Keep your WORD.
Repeat.
No offense taken. I am an addict. And I openly admit it. I wish it never got this way, but it is what it is. But I'm going to do this.
We're doing this. Flush all nicotine and join us. The only way to quit using is to stop ingesting what you're addicted to. Weening does not work. Most of us tried it, too. Cold turkey. Today. Not another second.
These fellas are right db. There's no room for nicotine. The best time to start winning back your life, is right now. You must realize that we all are addicted to this junk, and for what? It's a carcinogenic, oncogenic can of bullshit! Throw it out, take the choker off your nutsack, and jump on board.
No doubt it will not be fun. But, looking towards the light, all of us here have done it and survived. You too can do this, it's for your life man. When you decide to post up roll and make that promise to your quit brothers, you take on enormous accountability for that day. This will help you survive. All the tools for success in battling this addiction are located here at KTC, but ultimately it is you who must utilize them.
If you have any extra comments or concerns, or need a number, you can feel free to PM me or any of the other vets whom you've talked with already.
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Today's my first post here; I'm 34, a Financial Advisor (lots of stress), going through divorce at moment (not as much stress, and will resolve itself in time).� I've dipped for too long-1996 was my first chew, basically Skoal on and off for about 4-5 years, and then Kodiak pretty much since then.� Quit once, for 4 months, from my 23rd bday (7/20/00) to Thanksgiving night 2000, driving back to NJ from Boston.� But, I realize, it's time to give it up.� I haven't had problems yet, apart from stained teeth, but I know the odds aren't in my favor.�
Right now, because I have a longer drive to my office (due to divorce issues, I left the house before my crazy to-be-ex could do anything), I started getting up to almost a tin a day--too much.� What I am doing is taking my intake down gradually-for example, I have 1.5 hr drive each way (Middlesex Cty down to Atlantic City), so yesterday, I chew gum in the car to, and on the way home.�
I used to have a few chews during the day--no more.�
Yesterday morning, had a client call, and was missing some information-I felt the stress kick up and reached for the tin--ok, not great, but I know the triggers, so I can be aware of them.� �
Today, on the drive to and from, no chew.� Also, just a tiny chew at my desk abt 8:30 (for about 10-15 mins) and nothing else all day.� I felt a little funny, but otherwise good--my body felt different, better, and my mouth felt good.� Better than in a long time.� No chews immediately after meals.�
Had some cravings today, but kept myself from going to Wawa.� Brushed my teeth in bathroom, drank water, ate some potato chips.
I had one chew tonight, about 945 or so-my plan is to take my intake down to 1 per day, at night, for the duration of this tin, and slowly wean myself off nicotine.� I had read good things about this Hooch brand, wintergreen, as a replacement for the Bear.� I will have to order some.� Please share any comments or feedback as would be appropriate.� Ideally, I will bring the Bear down, and use the Hooch in its place, at night, and gradually bring the nic in my system down, and then hopefully, as the nic levels in my blood decrease, I can either continue with chewing gum, and use Hooch for during golf, fishing, etc, where I had Kodiak in the past.� Thanks.
Hey bub...don't take this the wrong way, but you're an addict. So am I.
Throw your shit in the toilet and flush. Stuff your face with Hooch all you want, but there is no 'weening'.
Cold turkey.
Grab your balls.
You can do this, we can help.
Nicotine sucks.
Post roll.
Keep your WORD.
Repeat.
No offense taken. I am an addict. And I openly admit it. I wish it never got this way, but it is what it is. But I'm going to do this.
We're doing this. Flush all nicotine and join us. The only way to quit using is to stop ingesting what you're addicted to. Weening does not work. Most of us tried it, too. Cold turkey. Today. Not another second.
These fellas are right db. There's no room for nicotine. The best time to start winning back your life, is right now. You must realize that we all are addicted to this junk, and for what? It's a carcinogenic, oncogenic can of bullshit! Throw it out, take the choker off your nutsack, and jump on board.
No doubt it will not be fun. But, looking towards the light, all of us here have done it and survived. You too can do this, it's for your life man. When you decide to post up roll and make that promise to your quit brothers, you take on enormous accountability for that day. This will help you survive. All the tools for success in battling this addiction are located here at KTC, but ultimately it is you who must utilize them.
If you have any extra comments or concerns, or need a number, you can feel free to PM me or any of the other vets whom you've talked with already.
Please make the stupid people SHUTUP !
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New blog post: Canker Sores - In The Mind Of A Former Dipper
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/02/cank ... er-dipper/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/02/canker-sores-in-the-mind-of-a-former-dipper/)
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New blog post: Canker Sores - In The Mind Of A Former Dipper
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/02/cank ... er-dipper/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/02/canker-sores-in-the-mind-of-a-former-dipper/)
Misery loves company. Glad I'm not the only one dealing with this! Canker sores usually hit me when I bite my cheek or lip accidentally. Best remedy for me is Advil (for the pain) and constant rinsing with Listerine.
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New blog post:Â Canker Sores - In The Mind Of A Former Dipper
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/02/cank ... er-dipper/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/02/canker-sores-in-the-mind-of-a-former-dipper/)
Misery loves company. Glad I'm not the only one dealing with this! Canker sores usually hit me when I bite my cheek or lip accidentally. Best remedy for me is Advil (for the pain) and constant rinsing with Listerine.
I run into these occasionally too. I use Advil for the sting they give me as well. What a pain in the ass. I mean lip.
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No chew today-on phone most all day, and in the gym. Attitude seems noticeably different--I feel more 'aggro', not necessarily a starting-a-fight sort of attitude, but an ultraconfident attitude.
I feel great, some close friends have said my voice sounds different. I feel different, like I just want to go smash shit up (in a good way, meaning, kick ass in that what I do, go talk to girls, and generally take care of business. Tell some people who irk me "f*** you". That sort of thing.
I am also noticing my sex drive is WAY up.
Tonight, I am noticing very bad gas-frequent and audible! Fortunately, I am by myself, so I don't have to worry about offending anyone in the immediacy.
Has anyone else experienced gas like this?
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I'm 12 days in and all I want to do is sleep. Tully
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i need some advice taking the first step in not going to the store for another can
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Hi my name is Joe... And I today is day 1 I am coming up on 24 hours and I had a terrible anxiety attack today and I took it out on my family and I feel terrible. Any advice or help would be greatly appreciated!
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i need some advice taking the first step in not going to the store for another can
no offense, but all you have to do is man up. that car ain't going to drive itself to the store. your money isn't going to pop out of your wallet into the cash register. the dip isn't going to put itself in your lip.
you have to take 100 different actions to go to the store, buy dip, and use it. all you need to do is be strong and mentally tough and not do just ONE of those actions. i prefer to stop it before i leave the house.
the real deal, though, is getting support from people who know what you're going through. that's why this place is here. click on the pink welcome center link at the top left corner of the page and read. make sure you know why we post roll. once you know what you'd be signing up for, i'd recommend that you go to the May 2012 quit group and post roll.
you're going to need help in this fight. if you're like most here, you've quit hundreds of times unsuccessfully by yourself. we know how to quit. we know how to fight our addiction. let us show you the way.
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Hi my name is Joe... And I today is day 1 I am coming up on 24 hours and I had a terrible anxiety attack today and I took it out on my family and I feel terrible. Any advice or help would be greatly appreciated!
that can happen when you're going it alone.
if you join up here, you ain't alone anymore as long as you're posting roll and keeping your word.
we can take the worst you can dish out. trust me. we've seen it all before and most likely have DONE it all before ourselves too. do not unload on your family, as tough as that can be. understand that they did not put that tobacco in your pie hole. they are innocent. direct your rage at us. we know what you're going through and can understand; your family has NO IDEA what it is like and will not be able to rationalize why daddy/hubby is being a class A asshole.
click on the pink welcome link at the top left of the page, read everything twice, and then find may 2012 quit group and post roll.
you have the power to make this quit stick.
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Kind of emotional day today. I cracked on the way home from work-about 10 minutes into trip, put one in--and didn't like it. After les than 5 minutes, Spit it out.
6 pack of Hooch wintergreen was waiting for me at home. I have one in my mouth right now.
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Kind of emotional day today. I cracked on the way home from work-about 10 minutes into trip, put one in--and didn't like it. After les than 5 minutes, Spit it out.
6 pack of Hooch wintergreen was waiting for me at home. I have one in my mouth right now.
did you call anyone??? you cracked??? NO YOU FAILED... if you arent going to take your quit seriously then neither are we...
you need to figure out a plan and use the resources available to you on here
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Kind of emotional day today. I cracked on the way home from work-about 10 minutes into trip, put one in--and didn't like it. After les than 5 minutes, Spit it out.Â
6 pack of Hooch wintergreen was waiting for me at home. I have one in my mouth right now.
did you call anyone??? you cracked??? NO YOU FAILED... if you arent going to take your quit seriously then neither are we...
you need to figure out a plan and use the resources available to you on here
Yeah, actually, I called a good friend who has thrown support behind me, and we talked on the phone for about the next hour in the car to get my mind off it-so, thanks for nothing.
Saturday am, had Pancakes with green tea, jonesing for a chew afterwards while I read email and the news, thank goodness for Hooch.
Am I supposed to spit this juice out, or can it be swallowed?
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Kind of emotional day today. I cracked on the way home from work-about 10 minutes into trip, put one in--and didn't like it. After les than 5 minutes, Spit it out.Â
6 pack of Hooch wintergreen was waiting for me at home. I have one in my mouth right now.
did you call anyone??? you cracked??? NO YOU FAILED... if you arent going to take your quit seriously then neither are we...
you need to figure out a plan and use the resources available to you on here
Yeah, actually, I called a good friend who has thrown support behind me, and we talked on the phone for about the next hour in the car to get my mind off it-so, thanks for nothing.
Saturday am, had Pancakes with green tea, jonesing for a chew afterwards while I read email and the news, thank goodness for Hooch.
Am I supposed to spit this juice out, or can it be swallowed?
Dbraunsdorf,
"Ten minutes into your drive home and you cracked". Did you stop at the gas station, or did you have an emergancy stash in your glove box? Either way it is a weak excuse.
This website is not a place for people to "try" to quit. This is a support network for people who have quit nicotine. If you cannot make it 10 minutes in a car without caving, you are not taking your quit serious. You need to deciede if you are going to "try to quit" or "quit".
If you are just trying, continure posting in the quit cafe or intro section and keep spewing your weak excuses.
But when you are ready to quit and are willing to do anything and everything to stay quit, then I encourage you to post roll call in the May 2012 group. Roll call is your daily promise to not use nicotine. It is not a promise to try your best not to use it. There is no excuse to ever use nicotine. So please do not post roll call unless your word means something.
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Kind of emotional day today. I cracked on the way home from work-about 10 minutes into trip, put one in--and didn't like it. After les than 5 minutes, Spit it out.Â
6 pack of Hooch wintergreen was waiting for me at home. I have one in my mouth right now.
did you call anyone??? you cracked??? NO YOU FAILED... if you arent going to take your quit seriously then neither are we...
you need to figure out a plan and use the resources available to you on here
Yeah, actually, I called a good friend who has thrown support behind me, and we talked on the phone for about the next hour in the car to get my mind off it-so, thanks for nothing.
Saturday am, had Pancakes with green tea, jonesing for a chew afterwards while I read email and the news, thank goodness for Hooch.
Am I supposed to spit this juice out, or can it be swallowed?
Dbraunsdorf,
"Ten minutes into your drive home and you cracked". Did you stop at the gas station, or did you have an emergancy stash in your glove box? Either way it is a weak excuse.
This website is not a place for people to "try" to quit. This is a support network for people who have quit nicotine. If you cannot make it 10 minutes in a car without caving, you are not taking your quit serious. You need to deciede if you are going to "try to quit" or "quit".
If you are just trying, continure posting in the quit cafe or intro section and keep spewing your weak excuses.
But when you are ready to quit and are willing to do anything and everything to stay quit, then I encourage you to post roll call in the May 2012 group. Roll call is your daily promise to not use nicotine. It is not a promise to try your best not to use it. There is no excuse to ever use nicotine. So please do not post roll call unless your word means something.
This is some weak ass crap. You "cracked"... is that your excuse to not call it what it is? A FAILURE. I see this crap all the time from cavers... it was only a TINY chew... I only had it in for 5 minutes... oh bull. I didn't realize an addiction only relied on how long or how big of a hit you took. I think I might start doing heroin but only shooting up a little bit at a time... that way it will be ok.
You must be one of these special butterfly's. Scowick has something for these butterfly's that know more than we do about quitting:
:scowick:
Your back at day one because you caved. Failure. Start learning what it means to actually be accountable or quitting won't work for you. And don't give people this "thanks for nothing" crap. I think that about set me off more than your weak excuse for a promise. So you called your buddy AFTER you failed miserably and he had to convince you not to take another chew on the ride? I bet your buddies a nice guy, but obviously he didn't help you quit.
Get with the program, it can save your life if you let it.
P.S. Where is you name on roll call? That one "short" chew that you didn't like turn in to more than you bargained for?
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DBraunsdorf,
You are a piece of shit liar that cracked. Don't give us that crap about it was only 5 minutes. You think my wife would be fine is I only cheated on her for 5 minutes? No! Cheating is cheating and you are back at day one.
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DBraunsdorf,
You are a piece of shit liar that cracked. Don't give us that crap about it was only 5 minutes. You think my wife would be fine is I only cheated on her for 5 minutes? No! Cheating is cheating and you are back at day one.
Tranny in Jersey
your gonna fit right in here....
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DBraunsdorf,
You are a piece of shit liar that cracked. Don't give us that crap about it was only 5 minutes. You think my wife would be fine is I only cheated on her for 5 minutes? No! Cheating is cheating and you are back at day one.
That you Auburn?
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DBraunsdorf,
You are a piece of shit liar that cracked. Don't give us that crap about it was only 5 minutes. You think my wife would be fine is I only cheated on her for 5 minutes? No! Cheating is cheating and you are back at day one.
That you Auburn?
Nope, just a guy from Kentucky that quit dipping 2 days ago. I don't want to hear that guys story about how he didnt like it and spit it out after only five minutes. What a bitch.
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I just signed up to the site, so I really don't know how it works yet so please be easy on the rookie. I am sorry to anounce but I have not officially quit yet. My date is 2-22.2012, so tomorrow is my last day. I have planning this for a few weeks and today the realization of what I'm about to do is starting set in. Any advice?
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DBraunsdorf,
You are a piece of shit liar that cracked. Don't give us that crap about it was only 5 minutes. You think my wife would be fine is I only cheated on her for 5 minutes? No! Cheating is cheating and you are back at day one.
Thanks, Tranny. It takes some stones to say something like this to a computer screen. Fuck you and mind your own business from now on.
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I just signed up to the site, so I really don't know how it works yet so please be easy on the rookie. I am sorry to anounce but I have not officially quit yet. My date is 2-22.2012, so tomorrow is my last day. I have planning this for a few weeks and today the realization of what I'm about to do is starting set in. Any advice?
What makes Feb 22nd so special? What's wrong with today? Why don't you dump your shit, flush your stash and get this thing going?
I appreciate the fact that you're trying to 'psyche yourself up' and be prepared. The problem with that is, you're an addict and you won't quit on the 22nd.
Tomorrow never comes.
Quit today. All you have is right now.
Whatcha think? You in?
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DBraunsdorf,
You are a piece of shit liar that cracked. Don't give us that crap about it was only 5 minutes. You think my wife would be fine is I only cheated on her for 5 minutes? No! Cheating is cheating and you are back at day one.
Thanks, Tranny. It takes some stones to say something like this to a computer screen. Fuck you and mind your own business from now on.
easy children...
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DBraunsdorf,
You are a piece of shit liar that cracked. Don't give us that crap about it was only 5 minutes. You think my wife would be fine is I only cheated on her for 5 minutes? No! Cheating is cheating and you are back at day one.
Thanks, Tranny. It takes some stones to say something like this to a computer screen. Fuck you and mind your own business from now on.
tranny's in the right here, douchebag, and you're in the wrong. you don't like being held accountable to your word, find someplace else to quit. this is the men's department, and we don't carry junior sizes.
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DBraunsdorf,
You are a piece of shit liar that cracked. Don't give us that crap about it was only 5 minutes. You think my wife would be fine is I only cheated on her for 5 minutes? No! Cheating is cheating and you are back at day one.
Thanks, Tranny. It takes some stones to say something like this to a computer screen. Fuck you and mind your own business from now on.
tranny's in the right here, douchebag, and you're in the wrong. you don't like being held accountable to your word, find someplace else to quit. this is the men's department, and we don't carry junior sizes.
Db, your cave is his business, and the business of every other quitter on this site. If you haven't noticed yet, we take this shit very, very seriously. I guess you could say our lives depend on it, couldn't you? They also depend on one another. Accountability is pounded into the head of every newer quitter repeatedly, over and over, like a dead horse, for good reason.
That's our one big secret weapon of mass destruction against the nic bitch.
These pages are filled with champion quitters Db. Once you're ready to get serious and take your quit to the highest level of success then please stay and drink the koolaid. We want your added accountability here.
Read the link in my signature posted by NOLAQ. I don't feel that you're there yet. Are you?
Prove me wrong.
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DBraunsdorf,
You are a piece of shit liar that cracked. Don't give us that crap about it was only 5 minutes. You think my wife would be fine is I only cheated on her for 5 minutes? No! Cheating is cheating and you are back at day one.
Thanks, Tranny. It takes some stones to say something like this to a computer screen. Fuck you and mind your own business from now on.
tranny's in the right here, douchebag, and you're in the wrong. you don't like being held accountable to your word, find someplace else to quit. this is the men's department, and we don't carry junior sizes.
Hey dbraunsDouche,
Have you manned up yet or are you still sucking on the nic bitch like its your binky?
Are you even reading and comprehending what is going on here? It sure don't look like it.
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i need some advice taking the first step in not going to the store for another can
You still here? Or did you cave?
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Hi my name is Joe... And I today is day 1 I am coming up on 24 hours and I had a terrible anxiety attack today and I took it out on my family and I feel terrible. Any advice or help would be greatly appreciated!
Looks like another slipped through the cracks damnit!
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DBraunsdorf,
You are a piece of shit liar that cracked. Don't give us that crap about it was only 5 minutes. You think my wife would be fine is I only cheated on her for 5 minutes? No! Cheating is cheating and you are back at day one.
Thanks, Tranny. It takes some stones to say something like this to a computer screen. Fuck you and mind your own business from now on.
Im sorry for being so harsh but its the truth. If you can't drive 10 minutes in the car without caving in you might as well drive the car over a cliff. If you continue to give in to your cravings then you are heading in the same direction.
Don't act like you would do something if I told you this in person either.
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DBraunsdorf,
You are a piece of shit liar that cracked. Don't give us that crap about it was only 5 minutes. You think my wife would be fine is I only cheated on her for 5 minutes? No! Cheating is cheating and you are back at day one.
Thanks, Tranny. It takes some stones to say something like this to a computer screen. Fuck you and mind your own business from now on.
Im sorry for being so harsh but its the truth. If you can't drive 10 minutes in the car without caving in you might as well drive the car over a cliff. If you continue to give in to your cravings then you are heading in the same direction.
Don't act like you would do something if I told you this in person either.
I've found another reason I like TIJ. :unsure:
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DBraunsdorf,
You are a piece of shit liar that cracked.� Don't give us that crap about it was only 5 minutes.� You think my wife would be fine is I only cheated on her for 5 minutes? No! Cheating is cheating and you are back at day one.
Thanks, Tranny. It takes some stones to say something like this to a computer screen. Fuck you and mind your own business from now on.
tranny's in the right here, douchebag, and you're in the wrong. you don't like being held accountable to your word, find someplace else to quit. this is the men's department, and we don't carry junior sizes.
Db, your cave is his business, and the business of every other quitter on this site. If you haven't noticed yet, we take this shit very, very seriously. I guess you could say our lives depend on it, couldn't you? They also depend on one another. Accountability is pounded into the head of every newer quitter repeatedly, over and over, like a dead horse, for good reason.
That's our one big secret weapon of mass destruction against the nic bitch.
These pages are filled with champion quitters Db. Once you're ready to get serious and take your quit to the highest level of success then please stay and drink the koolaid. We want your added accountability here.
Read the link in my signature posted by NOLAQ. I don't feel that you're there yet. Are you?
Prove me wrong.
Yep... his business and everyone else here.
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/01/us-v ... -nutshell/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/01/us-vs-them-in-a-nutshell/)
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DBraunsdorf,
You are a piece of shit liar that cracked.� Don't give us that crap about it was only 5 minutes.� You think my wife would be fine is I only cheated on her for 5 minutes? No! Cheating is cheating and you are back at day one.
Thanks, Tranny. It takes some stones to say something like this to a computer screen. Fuck you and mind your own business from now on.
tranny's in the right here, douchebag, and you're in the wrong. you don't like being held accountable to your word, find someplace else to quit. this is the men's department, and we don't carry junior sizes.
Db, your cave is his business, and the business of every other quitter on this site. If you haven't noticed yet, we take this shit very, very seriously. I guess you could say our lives depend on it, couldn't you? They also depend on one another. Accountability is pounded into the head of every newer quitter repeatedly, over and over, like a dead horse, for good reason.
That's our one big secret weapon of mass destruction against the nic bitch.
These pages are filled with champion quitters Db. Once you're ready to get serious and take your quit to the highest level of success then please stay and drink the koolaid. We want your added accountability here.
Read the link in my signature posted by NOLAQ. I don't feel that you're there yet. Are you?
Prove me wrong.
Yep... his business and everyone else here.
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/01/us-v ... -nutshell/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/01/us-vs-them-in-a-nutshell/)
Boom. The Chews lays it down...
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DBraunsdorf,
You are a piece of shit liar that cracked.� Don't give us that crap about it was only 5 minutes.� You think my wife would be fine is I only cheated on her for 5 minutes? No! Cheating is cheating and you are back at day one.
Thanks, Tranny. It takes some stones to say something like this to a computer screen. Fuck you and mind your own business from now on.
tranny's in the right here, douchebag, and you're in the wrong. you don't like being held accountable to your word, find someplace else to quit. this is the men's department, and we don't carry junior sizes.
Db, your cave is his business, and the business of every other quitter on this site. If you haven't noticed yet, we take this shit very, very seriously. I guess you could say our lives depend on it, couldn't you? They also depend on one another. Accountability is pounded into the head of every newer quitter repeatedly, over and over, like a dead horse, for good reason.
That's our one big secret weapon of mass destruction against the nic bitch.
These pages are filled with champion quitters Db. Once you're ready to get serious and take your quit to the highest level of success then please stay and drink the koolaid. We want your added accountability here.
Read the link in my signature posted by NOLAQ. I don't feel that you're there yet. Are you?
Prove me wrong.
Yep... his business and everyone else here.
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/01/us-v ... -nutshell/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/01/us-vs-them-in-a-nutshell/)
Boom. The Chews lays it down...
Yep. The chews and tranny laid down.
Great post, chewie.
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Hey, Chewie, the new feature that pops up a window when someone sends a pm is exellent. Thanks for the update!
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Why in the hell does this quit seem to be getting harder all of a sudden! I'm at 44 days and it has been fairly peachy until the past week. I want a dip worse than ever, a I had a dream last night I got one from my workout partner. It was odd, i could taste it and I had crammed so much in my mouth that juice was running down my chin! I woke up in a sweat!
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Why in the hell does this quit seem to be getting harder all of a sudden! I'm at 44 days and it has been fairly peachy until the past week. I want a dip worse than ever, a I had a dream last night I got one from my workout partner. It was odd, i could taste it and I had crammed so much in my mouth that juice was running down my chin! I woke up in a sweat!
Perfectly normal to hit a funk. It'll only last for one or two weeks. Just keep your head down, post roll and keep your word. Hang out here and read or get in chat when the craves hit. Before long, you'll be on cruise control again.
I suggest asking this question I your quit group. I bet other folks in your group are having the same experience and would benefit from such a discussion.
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Why in the hell does this quit seem to be getting harder all of a sudden! I'm at 44 days and it has been fairly peachy until the past week. I want a dip worse than ever, a I had a dream last night I got one from my workout partner. It was odd, i could taste it and I had crammed so much in my mouth that juice was running down my chin! I woke up in a sweat!
Perfectly normal to hit a funk. It'll only last for one or two weeks. Just keep your head down, post roll and keep your word. Hang out here and read or get in chat when the craves hit. Before long, you'll be on cruise control again.
I suggest asking this question I your quit group. I bet other folks in your group are having the same experience and would benefit from such a discussion.
Like Gmann says dip dreams suck and are normal, but you WILL get past this soon! It will be easier to deal it with the next time you have one. Hang in there! Its all WORTH it to get that crap out of your life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Why in the hell does this quit seem to be getting harder all of a sudden! I'm at 44 days and it has been fairly peachy until the past week. I want a dip worse than ever, a I had a dream last night I got one from my workout partner. It was odd, i could taste it and I had crammed so much in my mouth that juice was running down my chin! I woke up in a sweat!
Perfectly normal to hit a funk. It'll only last for one or two weeks. Just keep your head down, post roll and keep your word. Hang out here and read or get in chat when the craves hit. Before long, you'll be on cruise control again.
I suggest asking this question I your quit group. I bet other folks in your group are having the same experience and would benefit from such a discussion.
Like Gmann says dip dreams suck and are normal, but you WILL get past this soon! It will be easier to deal it with the next time you have one. Hang in there! Its all WORTH it to get that crap out of your life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't have near the number of quit days under my belt as these guys but I, too, can attest that it DOES get way better. Stay the course.
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A big Thank You to P. Graves of Naval Hospital Bremerton who recognizes the value of this site and points new quitters here. He (http://www.thenorthwestnavigator.com/news/2012/feb/16/great-american-spit-out-exposes-smokeless-tobacco/) does quit for a living and knows we get it.
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Congrats to KTC on the milestone.
Over 11,000 members!!!
'clap'
And the Quit goes on . . . .
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Congrats to KTC on the milestone.
Over 11,000 members!!!
'clap'
And the Quit goes on . . . .
Thank you sir! Just now putting together a blog post... stay tuned!
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New blog post: Growing Faster Than Ever - 11,000 Members!
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/02/grow ... 0-members/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/02/growing-faster-than-ever-11000-members/)
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Congrats to KTC on the milestone.
Over 11,000 members!!!
'clap'
And the Quit goes on . . . .
Congrats on 11000 members!!!
New member here already sounds like a great group!
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Congrats to KTC on the milestone.
Over 11,000 members!!!
'clap'
And the Quit goes on . . . .
Congrats on 11000 members!!!
New member here already sounds like a great group!
Best place to be if you want to free yourself from that crap!!!! Welcome to the site and congratulations on a great decision Grizz!!! Follow our plan and you too can get your freedom!!!!
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New blog post: Growing Faster Than Ever - 11,000 Members!
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/02/grow ... 0-members/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/02/growing-faster-than-ever-11000-members/)
Congrats KTC and great write-up/analysis Chewie! 'Have a beer'
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Hello everyone, I am on Day 79 and going strong. I still feel the desire every single day for a dip, but, I am holding strong. Problem is, lately I can only sleep in like 2 hour blocks and not very good. Is this normal? Just trying to find out if this is common with the other quitters on here. And yes, it is good to be a quitter :)
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Hello everyone, I am on Day 79 and going strong. I still feel the desire every single day for a dip, but, I am holding strong. Problem is, lately I can only sleep in like 2 hour blocks and not very good. Is this normal? Just trying to find out if this is common with the other quitters on here. And yes, it is good to be a quitter :)
I have found my own answer and figured I would post the info. The lack of nicotine can actually increase or decrease sleep. Depending on the individual. If you cant sleep try these remedies : Cut out the Caffeine, take a warm bath, get a massage, drink herbal tea, listen to soothing music, drink warm milk, don't drink alcohol, exercise, meditate, read a book, avoid naps and get up earlier.
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Hello everyone, I am on Day 79 and going strong. I still feel the desire every single day for a dip, but, I am holding strong. Problem is, lately I can only sleep in like 2 hour blocks and not very good. Is this normal? Just trying to find out if this is common with the other quitters on here. And yes, it is good to be a quitter :)
I have found my own answer and figured I would post the info. The lack of nicotine can actually increase or decrease sleep. Depending on the individual. If you cant sleep try these remedies : Cut out the Caffeine, take a warm bath, get a massage, drink herbal tea, listen to soothing music, drink warm milk, don't drink alcohol, exercise, meditate, read a book, avoid naps and get up earlier.
I like it. That's some good advice!
I've been sleeping in too late after staying up too late.
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Hello everyone, I am on Day 79 and going strong. I still feel the desire every single day for a dip, but, I am holding strong. Problem is, lately I can only sleep in like 2 hour blocks and not very good. Is this normal? Just trying to find out if this is common with the other quitters on here. And yes, it is good to be a quitter :)
I have found my own answer and figured I would post the info. The lack of nicotine can actually increase or decrease sleep. Depending on the individual. If you cant sleep try these remedies : Cut out the Caffeine, take a warm bath, get a massage, drink herbal tea, listen to soothing music, drink warm milk, don't drink alcohol, exercise, meditate, read a book, avoid naps and get up earlier.
I like it. That's some good advice!
I've been sleeping in too late after staying up too late.
no such thing as sleeping in too late.... _
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Hello everyone, I am on Day 79 and going strong. I still feel the desire every single day for a dip, but, I am holding strong. Problem is, lately I can only sleep in like 2 hour blocks and not very good. Is this normal? Just trying to find out if this is common with the other quitters on here. And yes, it is good to be a quitter :)
I have found my own answer and figured I would post the info. The lack of nicotine can actually increase or decrease sleep. Depending on the individual. If you cant sleep try these remedies : Cut out the Caffeine, take a warm bath, get a massage, drink herbal tea, listen to soothing music, drink warm milk, don't drink alcohol, exercise, meditate, read a book, avoid naps and get up earlier.
I like it. That's some good advice!
I've been sleeping in too late after staying up too late.
no such thing as sleeping in too late.... _
Sure there is when you can't get up for work on time.
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Hello everyone, I am on Day 79 and going strong. I still feel the desire every single day for a dip, but, I am holding strong. Problem is, lately I can only sleep in like 2 hour blocks and not very good. Is this normal? Just trying to find out if this is common with the other quitters on here. And yes, it is good to be a quitter :)
I have found my own answer and figured I would post the info. The lack of nicotine can actually increase or decrease sleep. Depending on the individual. If you cant sleep try these remedies : Cut out the Caffeine, take a warm bath, get a massage, drink herbal tea, listen to soothing music, drink warm milk, don't drink alcohol, exercise, meditate, read a book, avoid naps and get up earlier.
I like it. That's some good advice!
I've been sleeping in too late after staying up too late.
no such thing as sleeping in too late.... _
Sure there is when you can't get up for work on time.
Hey, Crucial, you might want to share this info with your quit group. Insomnia is a fairly common problem at your stage in quitting and it may help them as well.
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Question, should a quit plan include caving as the last possible step of the plan when all else has failed?
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Question, should a quit plan include caving as the last possible step of the plan when all else has failed?
Abso-fucking-lootly-not
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Question, should a quit plan include caving as the last possible step of the plan when all else has failed?
Abso-fucking-lootly-not
Caving is not part of a quit; it's the failure of the plan, not part of it!!
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Just saw a nicodermCQ ad. The slogan was "Quit one day at a time."
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Question, should a quit plan include caving as the last possible step of the plan when all else has failed?
Abso-fucking-lootly-not
Caving is not part of a quit; it's the failure of the plan, not part of it!!
I will stick my hand in a damn blender before I cave. Take ANY measure necessary to remain true to your quit!
Just saw a nicodermCQ ad. The slogan was "Quit one day at a time."
How's that for your daily dose of BULLSHIT. 'Finger'
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Question, should a quit plan include caving as the last possible step of the plan when all else has failed?
Abso-fucking-lootly-not
Caving is not part of a quit; it's the failure of the plan, not part of it!!
I will stick my hand in a damn blender before I cave. Take ANY measure necessary to remain true to your quit!
Just saw a nicodermCQ ad. The slogan was "Quit one day at a time."
How's that for your daily dose of BULLSHIT. 'Finger'
Some dude in introductions has a quit plan and step 7 of the plan is to cave.
Caving should never be a part of the plan. Like said before, it's the failure of the plan.
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Just saw a nicodermCQ ad. The slogan was "Quit one day at a time."
'bang head'
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Something to think about over the weekend.
Myth Busters 101: Understanding Nicotine and Stress
There are several myths about nicotine and stress that need to be debunked if you are going to understand whatÂ’s happening in your lives right now. The use of nicotine actually has a seesaw effect in our bodies and minds in relationship to stress, and many quitters experience increased anxiety, rage and nervous tension at the beginning of their quits.
Myth #1 – Nicotine helps me relax.
I used to think that dip helped me to calm down and chill out, especially at the end of a busy day. However, studies have shown that nicotine actually does just the opposite. The physiological and psychological effects of nicotine addiction create a “void” that only the drug can satisfy or fill. It causes an increase in heart rate, blood pressure, respiration, and blood glucose levels. Taking a dip to relax is merely taking a dip to cure a nicotine craving, substituting addiction for relaxation.
Myth #2 – Nicotine gives me pleasure.
One of the reasons that I hung on to dipping so long is that I once thought it provided pleasure or happiness. An addict’s logic can rationalize most anything. Think of it this way: Suppose that every day I undergo a physical beating with a whip which causes intense pain and suffering. However, once every week the beatings are mercifully taken away, and on that day I sit back to soak in the “pleasure” of not being hit. What I’ve done is confused the absence of pain with pleasure. The beatings have conditioned me to equate pleasure with the absence of the abuse. Nicotine addiction does just that. It creates a pain (the craving) that is “removed” when more of the drug is fed into our bodies. It conditions us to think that the absence of the craving equals satisfaction, substituting addiction for pleasure.
Myth #3 – Nicotine helps me deal with stress.
This one was a real eye opener for me. When I was experiencing a difficult situation or intense problem I would always reach for the can. Why? Because I thought it was my ally against stress. When I quit my world came crashing down and I ended up having high levels of anxiety and panic attacks. An addictÂ’s mind might lead one to think that the nicotine was keeping me from all that stuff but in reality it was the cause. Nicotine served as a substitute not a cure. When I dealt with the craves I thought I was dealing with the stress but that was not the case. I never actually handled or solved the stress; I only took the drug and when I needed to face stress without it I discovered that I had always been hiding from my problems, substituting addiction for reality.
Sorry for the length of this but writing about my quit and trying to help others actually fortifies my determination to give nic the finger. Nicotine creates an ugly cycle of bondage in our lives and it needs to be broken by destroying the lies of the addiction.
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New blog post: The First KillTheCan.org Marriage
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/03/the- ... -marriage/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/03/the-first-killthecan-org-marriage/)
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New blog post: The First KillTheCan.org Marriage
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/03/the- ... -marriage/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/03/the-first-killthecan-org-marriage/)
That deserves an applause!!!!
'clap' 'clap'
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New blog post:Â The First KillTheCan.org Marriage
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/03/the- ... -marriage/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/03/the-first-killthecan-org-marriage/)
That deserves an applause!!!!
'clap' 'clap'
Outstanding. A KTC love story...very nice.
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New blog post:Â Â The First KillTheCan.org Marriage
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/03/the- ... -marriage/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/03/the-first-killthecan-org-marriage/)
That deserves an applause!!!!
'clap' 'clap'
Outstanding. A KTC love story...very nice.
Very cool! Congratulations to you, Carter and Ashley! 'clap'
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New blog post: Mint Snuff Review (Oregon Mint Snuff)
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/03/mint ... int-snuff/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/03/mint-snuff-review-oregon-mint-snuff/)
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Please visit Big Savings Wednesday in "Wildcard" at the link below today and post your savings. Let's see how much money Kill The Can has helped us use for our families instead of diverting it to cans of finely chopped cat turds.
index.php?showtopic=262 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=262)
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Please visit Big Savings Wednesday in "Wildcard" at the link below today and post your savings. Let's see how much money Kill The Can has helped us use for our families instead of diverting it to cans of finely chopped cat turds.
index.php?showtopic=262 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=262)
Come on folks, let's get to $200K today.
index.php?showtopic=262 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=262)
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BUMP!!!!
Ok...if you are reading this PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Go Vote for a fellow Quitter to Win this Contest...Vote for Curtis Ansley who is ODT here at KTC... we have been voting twice a day for him but right now he has taken a huge hit and has fallen behind by like 70+ votes...it only takes a second if you have facebook...
If you can Vote Please do!!! Twice a day even!!! So very much appreciated!!!
Let's show people that Quitters can be Winner's too!!!
Vote for Curtis Ansley Please!!! (http://www.facebook.com/Camowraps/app_356796661001035#!/Camowraps/app_356796661001035)
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Please visit Big Savings Wednesday in "Wildcard" at the link below today and post your savings. Let's see how much money Kill The Can has helped us use for our families instead of diverting it to cans of finely chopped cat turds.
index.php?showtopic=262 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=262)
Come on folks, let's get to $200K today.
index.php?showtopic=262 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=262)
We are now at 200K. Let's keep going.
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Thoughts about Day 500
I’m definitely celebrating Day 500 today and saying, “thank you,” to all the folks at KTC who have supported me and quit with me. I’m indebted more than I can express . . . .
But I gotta’ tell you that I’ve been thinking about this “day thing.” Each day of quit is cause for celebration and it’s entirely proper to commemorate each milestone. But I’ve come to the conclusion that the number of days is not what we’re about. Every person who has quit today, whether he is on Day 1000 or on Day 5, is just as successful as I am today. It’s today, the now, that is critical. A cave on Day 1000 or on Day 5 is equally disastrous and a quit on Day 1000 or on Day 5 is equally victorious. In some ways the quit on Day 5 is more of a milestone because each of us can remember the fog and the struggle of those early days. But it’s not the number that is important; it’s the fact that we are quit. The quit is what matters and nothing else.
Quitting is a life lesson. Big Tobacco values us only so far as we can fill its coffers; They donÂ’t care if we are destroyed in the end. But when we quit our eyes are opened to our worth as people and to the foolishness of deliberately introducing poison into our bodies, to the idiocy of destroying who we are. Quitting has shown me that my life is worth fighting for and that yours is as well, and that the essence of being a quit brother or sister is to recognize and honor each person and to join forces in the battle. If you are quit today, I applaud you!
Keep count of your days, of course, but remember your quit begins anew each day!!
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Thoughts about Day 500
I�m definitely celebrating Day 500 today and saying, �thank you,� to all the folks at KTC who have supported me and quit with me. I�m indebted more than I can express . . . .
But I gotta� tell you that I�ve been thinking about this �day thing.� Each day of quit is cause for celebration and it�s entirely proper to commemorate each milestone. But I�ve come to the conclusion that the number of days is not what we�re about. Every person who has quit today, whether he is on Day 1000 or on Day 5, is just as successful as I am today. It�s today, the now, that is critical. A cave on Day 1000 or on Day 5 is equally disastrous and a quit on Day 1000 or on Day 5 is equally victorious. In some ways the quit on Day 5 is more of a milestone because each of us can remember the fog and the struggle of those early days. But it�s not the number that is important; it�s the fact that we are quit. The quit is what matters and nothing else.
Quitting is a life lesson. Big Tobacco values us only so far as we can fill its coffers; They don�t care if we are destroyed in the end. But when we quit our eyes are opened to our worth as people and to the foolishness of deliberately introducing poison into our bodies, to the idiocy of destroying who we are. Quitting has shown me that my life is worth fighting for and that yours is as well, and that the essence of being a quit brother or sister is to recognize and honor each person and to join forces in the battle. If you are quit today, I applaud you!
Keep count of your days, of course, but remember your quit begins anew each day!!
This is brilliant sir. Congratulations on 500 big ones.
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Thoughts about Day 500
I’m definitely celebrating Day 500 today and saying, “thank you,” to all the folks at KTC who have supported me and quit with me. I’m indebted more than I can express . . . .
But I gotta’ tell you that I’ve been thinking about this “day thing.” Each day of quit is cause for celebration and it’s entirely proper to commemorate each milestone. But I’ve come to the conclusion that the number of days is not what we’re about. Every person who has quit today, whether he is on Day 1000 or on Day 5, is just as successful as I am today. It’s today, the now, that is critical. A cave on Day 1000 or on Day 5 is equally disastrous and a quit on Day 1000 or on Day 5 is equally victorious. In some ways the quit on Day 5 is more of a milestone because each of us can remember the fog and the struggle of those early days. But it’s not the number that is important; it’s the fact that we are quit. The quit is what matters and nothing else.
Quitting is a life lesson. Big Tobacco values us only so far as we can fill its coffers; They donÂ’t care if we are destroyed in the end. But when we quit our eyes are opened to our worth as people and to the foolishness of deliberately introducing poison into our bodies, to the idiocy of destroying who we are. Quitting has shown me that my life is worth fighting for and that yours is as well, and that the essence of being a quit brother or sister is to recognize and honor each person and to join forces in the battle. If you are quit today, I applaud you!
Keep count of your days, of course, but remember your quit begins anew each day!!
Outstanding and inspiring!
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Teen smoking an 'epidemic,' new report finds
• Smoking kills more than 1,200 people every day, and every tobacco-related death is replaced by two new smokers under the age of 25 . . . .
• The report criticized tobacco companies for targeting youth, saying the industry spends more than $1 million an hour -- over $27 million per day -- in marketing and promoting tobacco products.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46669027/ns ... 1kS7nm0Cg4 (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46669027/ns/health-addictions/#.T1kS7nm0Cg4)
The full report can be found at www.surgeongeneral.gov (http://www.surgeongeneral.gov)
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Hope this is the right place to post. Going on 25 hours dip free. It's actually easier than I ezpected. Yesterday I was miserable but taday seems better. I'm serious about quitting this chit and am not turning back.
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Hope this is the right place to post. Going on 25 hours dip free. It's actually easier than I ezpected. Yesterday I was miserable but taday seems better. I'm serious about quitting this chit and am not turning back.
kdbu#1 -
Welcome aboard! You certainly can post here, but your home "quit group" is June 2012 index.php?showtopic=6044 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6044) This is based on your quit date.
Glad to have you!
chewie
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New blog post: A Road Trip - The Perfect Time For A Dip? Not Anymore
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/03/a-ro ... t-anymore/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/03/a-road-trip-the-perfect-time-for-a-dip-not-anymore/)
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Hello Everyone,
My name is Shelton and I found this site 9 days ago. I have been quite now for 7 days. You can say I am not very computer savy since I can't figure out how to do the Roll Call thing. Can someone help me with this.
Thanks anyone / everyone.
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Hello Everyone,
My name is Shelton and I found this site 9 days ago. I have been quite now for 7 days. You can say I am not very computer savy since I can't figure out how to do the Roll Call thing. Can someone help me with this.
Thanks anyone / everyone.
Shelton, did you read about posting roll in the WELCOME CENTER? It's the red link at the upper left of your screen.
If you're still having trouble after reading that, contact me ASAP.
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New Member:Â escortdesign92
Web Design For Escorts provides custom web design service for escorts. We create beautiful, custom designs for independent escorts and escort agencies.
These people raise my ire!!!
'Finger'
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New Member:Â escortdesign92
Web Design For Escorts provides custom web design service for escorts. We create beautiful, custom designs for independent escorts and escort agencies.
These people raise my ire!!!
'Finger'
fixed... thanks for pointing it out.
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New Member:Â escortdesign92
Web Design For Escorts provides custom web design service for escorts. We create beautiful, custom designs for independent escorts and escort agencies.
These people raise my ire!!!
'Finger'
fixed... thanks for pointing it out.
DAMNIT!!!!
How the hell am I supposed to get my independent escort business up and going now without a beautiful webpage?
Think he will take payment in barter?
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New Member:Â escortdesign92
Web Design For Escorts provides custom web design service for escorts. We create beautiful, custom designs for independent escorts and escort agencies.
These people raise my ire!!!
'Finger'
fixed... thanks for pointing it out.
DAMNIT!!!!
How the hell am I supposed to get my independent escort business up and going now without a beautiful webpage?
Think he will take payment in barter?
Dammit!
I can't navigate wastepanel's webpage because it's so freakin' shitty!!
All I wanted to do was order an escort from a beautiful, custom designed webpage and now that dream is ruined.
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New Member:Â escortdesign92
Web Design For Escorts provides custom web design service for escorts. We create beautiful, custom designs for independent escorts and escort agencies.
These people raise my ire!!!
'Finger'
fixed... thanks for pointing it out.
DAMNIT!!!!
How the hell am I supposed to get my independent escort business up and going now without a beautiful webpage?
Think he will take payment in barter?
Dammit!
I can't navigate wastepanel's webpage because it's so freakin' shitty!!
All I wanted to do was order an escort from a beautiful, custom designed webpage and now that dream is ruined.
Need a webpage update... I've got your back ;)
http://www.ktcdigital.com (http://www.ktcdigital.com)
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New Member:Â escortdesign92
Web Design For Escorts provides custom web design service for escorts. We create beautiful, custom designs for independent escorts and escort agencies.
These people raise my ire!!!
'Finger'
fixed... thanks for pointing it out.
DAMNIT!!!!
How the hell am I supposed to get my independent escort business up and going now without a beautiful webpage?
Think he will take payment in barter?
Dammit!
I can't navigate wastepanel's webpage because it's so freakin' shitty!!
All I wanted to do was order an escort from a beautiful, custom designed webpage and now that dream is ruined.
Need a webpage update... I've got your back ;)
http://www.ktcdigital.com (http://www.ktcdigital.com)
Do you accept payment in barter?
Shortround-How you doin?
Hiring me as an escort is like navigating my website: It's scary, there's a lot of twists and turns, some dead links, and overall it is a very confusing experience.
I'm trying to change my image. That HBO show "hung" has ruined it for all of us regular escorts. Everybody wants that guy...
I'll have to check my calendar, NOLAQ and Gmann have me booked for the month of May. Last time they did that, the recovery and surgeries cost me nearly as much as they paid me. And I was laid up for 3 months.
I only have one rule: No post diggers (http://www.google.com/#q=post+digger&hl=en&prmd=imvns&source=univ&tbm=shop&tbo=u&ei=aYhjT9OEIJGosAKu-bGcCw&sa=X&oi=product_result_group&ct=image&resnum=2&ved=0CJYBEMwDMAE&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=b25e5d323f051e77&biw=1016&bih=588).
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New Member:Â escortdesign92
Web Design For Escorts provides custom web design service for escorts. We create beautiful, custom designs for independent escorts and escort agencies.
These people raise my ire!!!
'Finger'
fixed... thanks for pointing it out.
DAMNIT!!!!
How the hell am I supposed to get my independent escort business up and going now without a beautiful webpage?
Think he will take payment in barter?
Dammit!
I can't navigate wastepanel's webpage because it's so freakin' shitty!!
All I wanted to do was order an escort from a beautiful, custom designed webpage and now that dream is ruined.
Need a webpage update... I've got your back ;)
http://www.ktcdigital.com (http://www.ktcdigital.com)
Do you accept payment in barter?
Shortround-How you doin?
Hiring me as an escort is like navigating my website: It's scary, there's a lot of twists and turns, some dead links, and overall it is a very confusing experience.
I'm trying to change my image. That HBO show "hung" has ruined it for all of us regular escorts. Everybody wants that guy...
I'll have to check my calendar, NOLAQ and Gmann have me booked for the month of May. Last time they did that, the recovery and surgeries cost me nearly as much as they paid me. And I was laid up for 3 months.
I only have one rule: No post diggers (http://www.google.com/#q=post+digger&hl=en&prmd=imvns&source=univ&tbm=shop&tbo=u&ei=aYhjT9OEIJGosAKu-bGcCw&sa=X&oi=product_result_group&ct=image&resnum=2&ved=0CJYBEMwDMAE&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=b25e5d323f051e77&biw=1016&bih=588).
Are tweezers more your style?
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New blog post: Milestones – Keep Striving Keep Celebrating
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/03/mile ... lebrating/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/03/milestones-keep-striving-keep-celebrating/)
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Saw this interesting bit of news today - Safe For Work (http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-03-21/tobacco-use-killed-6-million-in-2011-cancer-society-says)
Tobacco use killed 6 million in 2011. Why not quit today?
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Hey it's day 3, can't suck worse. Been a few years sinse the last quit
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Hey it's day 3, can't suck worse. Been a few years sinse the last quit
Pause. It was a pause or else you wouldn't be on Day 3. Remember how bad this sucks. If you forget...this will just be a pause too.
Now, follow the Welcome Center link upper left. Read 4. Read 4. Read 4 again. Make sure you understand it. Read #3.
Go to quit groups, find June 12...and post Roll Call.
Welcome to the site. Yell if you need anything.
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Hey it's day 3, can't suck worse. Been a few years sinse the last quit
Pause. It was a pause or else you wouldn't be on Day 3. Remember how bad this sucks. If you forget...this will just be a pause too.
Now, follow the Welcome Center link upper left. Read 4. Read 4. Read 4 again. Make sure you understand it. Read #3.
Go to quit groups, find June 12...and post Roll Call.
Welcome to the site. Yell if you need anything.
Another one slapped but could not comprehend.
Horse, water, no drink
Palm - face plant
FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hey it's day 3, can't suck worse. Been a few years sinse the last quit
Pause. It was a pause or else you wouldn't be on Day 3. Remember how bad this sucks. If you forget...this will just be a pause too.
Now, follow the Welcome Center link upper left. Read 4. Read 4. Read 4 again. Make sure you understand it. Read #3.
Go to quit groups, find June 12...and post Roll Call.
Welcome to the site. Yell if you need anything.
Another one slapped but could not comprehend.
Horse, water, no drink
Palm - face plant
FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But, day 3 really is hard Ready. He'll hit his stride.
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Hey it's day 3, can't suck worse. Been a few years sinse the last quit
Pause. It was a pause or else you wouldn't be on Day 3. Remember how bad this sucks. If you forget...this will just be a pause too.
Now, follow the Welcome Center link upper left. Read 4. Read 4. Read 4 again. Make sure you understand it. Read #3.
Go to quit groups, find June 12...and post Roll Call.
Welcome to the site. Yell if you need anything.
Another one slapped but could not comprehend.
Horse, water, no drink
Palm - face plant
FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But, day 3 really is hard Ready. He'll hit his stride.
That was Sarcasm, for the unsure...
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Hey it's day 3, can't suck worse. Been a few years sinse the last quit
Pause. It was a pause or else you wouldn't be on Day 3. Remember how bad this sucks. If you forget...this will just be a pause too.
Now, follow the Welcome Center link upper left. Read 4. Read 4. Read 4 again. Make sure you understand it. Read #3.
Go to quit groups, find June 12...and post Roll Call.
Welcome to the site. Yell if you need anything.
Another one slapped but could not comprehend.
Horse, water, no drink
Palm - face plant
FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But, day 3 really is hard Ready. He'll hit his stride.
That was Sarcasm, for the unsure...
QUOTE (loot @ Mar 24, 2012, 4:40 pm)
QUOTE (Ready @ Mar 24, 2012, 4:47 pm)
QUOTE (loot @ Mar 23, 2012, 3:52 pm)
QUOTE (Tbenny @ Mar 23, 2012, 7:15 pm)
Hey it's day 3, can't suck worse. Been a few years sinse the last quit
Pause. It was a pause or else you wouldn't be on Day 3. Remember how bad this sucks. If you forget...this will just be a pause too.
Now, follow the Welcome Center link upper left. Read 4. Read 4. Read 4 again. Make sure you understand it. Read #3.
Go to quit groups, find June 12...and post Roll Call.
Welcome to the site. Yell if you need anything.
Another one slapped but could not comprehend.
Horse, water, no drink
Palm - face plant
FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But, day 3 really is hard Ready. He'll hit his stride.
Having a hard time finding quit groups but quit going good. Getting easier for now. Time to begin day five
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I'm only on day 4. Is it normal to feel a rush every now and then? Its not bad (kind of like it) and only lasts a few seconds, almost feels like your inhaling helium balloons...
Dan
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I'm only on day 4. Is it normal to feel a rush every now and then? Its not bad (kind of like it) and only lasts a few seconds, almost feels like your inhaling helium balloons...
Dan
Yeah got it too but starting to fade now at the end of day five. Also it feels like im awake while I'm dreaming at night. Effin wierd
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I'm only on day 4. Is it normal to feel a rush every now and then? Its not bad (kind of like it) and only lasts a few seconds, almost feels like your inhaling helium balloons...
Dan
Yeah got it too but starting to fade now at the end of day five. Also it feels like im awake while I'm dreaming at night. Effin wierd
I experienced stuff like this early on in my quit. Your mind and your body are adjusting to the absence of the nicotine.
You're learning to be the real you all over again!!
Keep going. It's worth the fight; believe me!
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I'm only on day 4. Is it normal to feel a rush every now and then? Its not bad (kind of like it) and only lasts a few seconds, almost feels like your inhaling helium balloons...
Dan
Yeah got it too but starting to fade now at the end of day five. Also it feels like im awake while I'm dreaming at night. Effin wierd
I experienced stuff like this early on in my quit. Your mind and your body are adjusting to the absence of the nicotine.
You're learning to be the real you all over again!!
Keep going. It's worth the fight; believe me!
Keddy,
I don't mind it at all. Its just kind of weird!
If I'm not quit its cause I died. :)
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Hey Benny got some info for you, has a few links for posting roll:
Well here is the deal with KTC, we are basically a cold turkey program, we don't utilize nicotine replacement therapy such as nicorette gum.
We come in each day and promise to our brothers that we will remain quit for the rest of the day, the next day we come and do the same thing.
People come in here and bust balls, they go in the chat and talk about the issues they are having, they call fellow quit group members and ask for help. We remain quit one day at a time.
We have milestones, the biggest and the first is reaching 100 days quit without NRT, this is called the Hall of Fame, the time when you reach HOF is your quit group so if you stopped all nicotine on March 20th you would be in the June 2012 group.
When in your group you post roll call, this is your promise to quit today, tomorrow you come in and repeat. Remember, we are addicts, we are junkies to nicotine, it takes a strong will and assistance to stay quit.
Here is the welcome center
index.php?showforum=13 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13)
Here is how to post roll call
index.php?showtopic=50 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50)
Here is the June quit group
index.php?showtopic=6044 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6044)
Welcome to our group, if you buy into the program it can save your life.
Stay quit my friend.
Bigwhitebeast
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Day 2 cold turkey
Feeling ok fighting the urge off
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Day 2 cold turkey
Feeling ok fighting the urge off
Congratulations on your quit!
Remember, "cold turkey" means no nic patches, gum or tobacco products. Period.
The central part of KTC and its success is posting roll call every day.
Head on over to the WELCOME CENTER (link in red at the upper left of your screen) and read all about posting roll. Then go to the July 2012 group and get started.
Also read everything you can under this link: KillTheCan.org.
Information is power when it comes to quitting.
The initial days of quitting suck, but your life is worth the fight!!
If you need anything else, just shout.
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I don't know what I'm doing?
I found KTC while planning how to quit.
I've taken some steps but still alittle
afraid of caving again. 38 yr of slavery
And I can't fail again.
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I don't know what I'm doing?
I found KTC while planning how to quit.
I've taken some steps but still alittle
afraid of caving again. 38 yr of slavery
And I can't fail again.
You are in the right place.
Go to the welcome center and read, read, read.
Don't be scared. Freedom is worth the fight.
PM me if you need help.
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I don't know what I'm doing?
I found KTC while planning how to quit.Â
I've taken some steps but still alittle
afraid of caving again. 38 yr of slavery
And I can't fail again.
You are in the right place.
Go to the welcome center and read, read, read.
Don't be scared. Freedom is worth the fight.
PM me if you need help.
Day 4 still dip free cant fucking roll call with this fucking ipad
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I don't know what I'm doing?
I found KTC while planning how to quit.Â
I've taken some steps but still alittle
afraid of caving again. 38 yr of slavery
And I can't fail again.
You are in the right place.
Go to the welcome center and read, read, read.
Don't be scared. Freedom is worth the fight.
PM me if you need help.
Day 4 still dip free cant fucking roll call with this fucking ipad
iPad posting instructions: index.php?showtopic=50 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50)
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I don't know what I'm doing?
I found KTC while planning how to quit.Â
I've taken some steps but still alittle
afraid of caving again. 38 yr of slavery
And I can't fail again.
You are in the right place.
Go to the welcome center and read, read, read.
Don't be scared. Freedom is worth the fight.
PM me if you need help.
Day 4 still dip free cant fucking roll call with this fucking ipad
iPad posting instructions: index.php?showtopic=50 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50)
First day off the stuff....I will not let my family or myself down this time!!!
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I don't know what I'm doing?
I found KTC while planning how to quit.Â
I've taken some steps but still alittle
afraid of caving again. 38 yr of slavery
And I can't fail again.
You are in the right place.
Go to the welcome center and read, read, read.
Don't be scared. Freedom is worth the fight.
PM me if you need help.
Day 4 still dip free cant fucking roll call with this fucking ipad
iPad posting instructions: index.php?showtopic=50 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50)
First day off the stuff....I will not let my family or myself down this time!!!
Fighting hard outside running equipment always had a dip in
Staying strong it's fucking hard though
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I quit on 9/21/2006 with the help of this site.
Still clean too!
You guys just starting out can do it! I'm proof of it.
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Anyone else notice that we are approaching 100 Quit Group topics?
That's freakin awesome!
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Anyone else notice that we are approaching 100 Quit Group topics?
That's freakin awesome!
That... rocks!
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New blog post: Your Quit Story - Can It Make You Famous?
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/04/your ... ou-famous/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/04/your-quit-story-can-it-make-you-famous/)
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Is this the appropiate place where we can start a conversation with all members about Spring triggers? I ask because I am 444 days quit and for the past few days I find that as I get back outside doing some spring cleaning and what not that I am more frequently thinking about dipping. It's never serious thought like you want to run to the store or anything, but to be honest the only time in the past 6 to 8 months that I have even thought about nicotine is in the morning when I post roll. Other than that, the thought is usually very far off in my memory banks. I don't know what it is though, perhaps its facing situations a year or so down the road where you have memories of abusing nicotine, or perhaps its boredom in my day to day life. Loot warned about a funk around 400-450 days; I like to think that he just planted a seed in my brain, but still even knowing that, these cravings are here. Anyone care to share some of their bigger triggers, or any long time veterans wish to share a story about how they were faced at some point after their quit that they experienced something similar? Sorry if this all seems like a ramble, its just been that kind of th epast few days. Stay strong everyone and thanks for making KTC what it is, you have all helped to save my life!
-csu
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alright guys, Im 15 yes its sad being that young and already addicted. I really need some support... I quit smoking after a year and I was happy, my doctor already could tell I smoked cause my lungs were getting all clogged up with nasty tar. Im a husky boy from oklahoma and I had dipped recently but it just got worse once I kicked one habit, another, just as deadly one began. I need some emtional support not getting sappy on you guys just need some support. My parents knew I smoked after i told my pops straight out when he asked. I now have started spitting two cans a week! ): I need some help... Some guidance.
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alright guys, Im 15 yes its sad being that young and already addicted. I really need some support... I quit smoking after a year and I was happy, my doctor already could tell I smoked cause my lungs were getting all clogged up with nasty tar. Im a husky boy from oklahoma and I had dipped recently but it just got worse once I kicked one habit, another, just as deadly one began. I need some emtional support not getting sappy on you guys just need some support. My parents knew I smoked after i told my pops straight out when he asked. I now have started spitting two cans a week! ): I need some help... Some guidance.
That's about when I started you better quit now buddy because once your hooked 20 years goes quick and 1000's of dollars waisted on killing yourself. Get off th shit, stay stong
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alright guys, Im 15 yes its sad being that young and already addicted. I really need some support... I quit smoking after a year and I was happy, my doctor already could tell I smoked cause my lungs were getting all clogged up with nasty tar. Im a husky boy from oklahoma and I had dipped recently but it just got worse once I kicked one habit, another, just as deadly one began. I need some emtional support not getting sappy on you guys just need some support. My parents knew I smoked after i told my pops straight out when he asked. I now have started spitting two cans a week! ): I need some help... Some guidance.
That's about when I started you better quit now buddy because once your hooked 20 years goes quick and 1000's of dollars waisted on killing yourself. Get off th shit, stay stong
jake the emotional support you want and need along with a good ass kicking from time to time, is in the quit groups. If you want to quit, you need to introduce your self in the introduce forum and then post day one with your promise you will be quit for that day. Have you spent any time looking around and reading? you need to. do it, today, I can help you but you gotta want this. email me if you have any questions or comments.
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Is this the appropiate place where we can start a conversation with all members about Spring triggers? I ask because I am 444 days quit and for the past few days I find that as I get back outside doing some spring cleaning and what not that I am more frequently thinking about dipping. It's never serious thought like you want to run to the store or anything, but to be honest the only time in the past 6 to 8 months that I have even thought about nicotine is in the morning when I post roll. Other than that, the thought is usually very far off in my memory banks. I don't know what it is though, perhaps its facing situations a year or so down the road where you have memories of abusing nicotine, or perhaps its boredom in my day to day life. Loot warned about a funk around 400-450 days; I like to think that he just planted a seed in my brain, but still even knowing that, these cravings are here. Anyone care to share some of their bigger triggers, or any long time veterans wish to share a story about how they were faced at some point after their quit that they experienced something similar? Sorry if this all seems like a ramble, its just been that kind of th epast few days. Stay strong everyone and thanks for making KTC what it is, you have all helped to save my life!
-csu
Yes... this is the perfect place to talk about this kind of stuff. And even though you've been quit for over a year now, this is the first time you've dealt with spring as a "quitter". Yes, last spring you were quit, but your quit was very new and fresh in your mind. This time around, you're comfortable in your quit so it's different.
This blog post, while written about fall, will give you some insight into what I'm referring to:
http://blog.killthecan.org/2009/10/fall ... -triggers/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2009/10/fall-is-upon-us-here-come-the-seasonal-triggers/)
Bottom line... you've done the right thing by identifying it. That's the first step. There's NOTHING more dangerous to a quit that complacency and comfort.
Quit today.
chewie
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alright guys, Im 15 yes its sad being that young and already addicted. I really need some support... I quit smoking after a year and I was happy, my doctor already could tell I smoked cause my lungs were getting all clogged up with nasty tar. Im a husky boy from oklahoma and I had dipped recently but it just got worse once I kicked one habit, another, just as deadly one began. I need some emtional support not getting sappy on you guys just need some support. My parents knew I smoked after i told my pops straight out when he asked. I now have started spitting two cans a week! ): I need some help... Some guidance.
That's about when I started you better quit now buddy because once your hooked 20 years goes quick and 1000's of dollars waisted on killing yourself. Get off th shit, stay stong
jake the emotional support you want and need along with a good ass kicking from time to time, is in the quit groups. If you want to quit, you need to introduce your self in the introduce forum and then post day one with your promise you will be quit for that day. Have you spent any time looking around and reading? you need to. do it, today, I can help you but you gotta want this. email me if you have any questions or comments.
My little brother. Started when I was 15, just like you now. I'm 45 now, 30 years of a waste of money, and damage to my body.... I sure wish I could talk to me back then, like we can you, right now.
To hell with tobacco. Join us man, I'm 3 days into my quit and its going great. Its hard yes, but nothing you cant do. If I can, you can. Come join our unit and fight with us. Its a war, and every day is a battle. I'll fight with ya. Fight with us now.
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New blog post: 5 Words That Can Kill A Quit: “Can I Bum A Dipâ€
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/04/5-wo ... bum-a-dip/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/04/5-words-that-can-kill-a-quit-can-i-bum-a-dip/)
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New blog post: 5 Words That Can Kill A Quit: “Can I Bum A Dipâ€
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/04/5-wo ... bum-a-dip/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/04/5-words-that-can-kill-a-quit-can-i-bum-a-dip/)
All true hell I'm 54 and have wasted $10s of thousands. Who In their right mind would do that. We all have been doing it, some longer than others but time don't matter. What Matters is that we gain control of our mind and make it right,
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alright guys, Im 15 yes its sad being that young and already addicted. I really need some support... I quit smoking after a year and I was happy, my doctor already could tell I smoked cause my lungs were getting all clogged up with nasty tar. Im a husky boy from oklahoma and I had dipped recently but it just got worse once I kicked one habit, another, just as deadly one began. I need some emtional support not getting sappy on you guys just need some support. My parents knew I smoked after i told my pops straight out when he asked. I now have started spitting two cans a week! ): I need some help... Some guidance.
That's about when I started you better quit now buddy because once your hooked 20 years goes quick and 1000's of dollars waisted on killing yourself. Get off th shit, stay stong
jake the emotional support you want and need along with a good ass kicking from time to time, is in the quit groups. If you want to quit, you need to introduce your self in the introduce forum and then post day one with your promise you will be quit for that day. Have you spent any time looking around and reading? you need to. do it, today, I can help you but you gotta want this. email me if you have any questions or comments.
My little brother. Started when I was 15, just like you now. I'm 45 now, 30 years of a waste of money, and damage to my body.... I sure wish I could talk to me back then, like we can you, right now.
To hell with tobacco. Join us man, I'm 3 days into my quit and its going great. Its hard yes, but nothing you cant do. If I can, you can. Come join our unit and fight with us. Its a war, and every day is a battle. I'll fight with ya. Fight with us now.
Hell Kid you need to quit NOW!!!! its been 2 days since you were lurking around, You know what you need to do QUIT already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't fuck with the bitch another minute or in 15 or 20 yrs you'll look back and say "WHY". Answer YOU kept putting the shit in your face.
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This is really sad...
Minnesota Twins Back Off Plan to Ban Dip (http://kstp.com/news/stories/S2578949.shtml?cat=1)
The Twins had previously decided to ban all tobacco use at its stadium. Now they've gone back on their word and decided dip is ok.
Boo.
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This is really sad...
Minnesota Twins Back Off Plan to Ban Dip (http://kstp.com/news/stories/S2578949.shtml?cat=1)
The Twins had previously decided to ban all tobacco use at its stadium. Now they've gone back on their word and decided dip is ok.
Boo.
Fucking terrible.
Thanks for posting.
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Hello, I've chewed Copenhagen for 14 years, and the last 7 of them it was 2 cans a day. I decided to quit on the 10th of april for my health and my family.
Im on day 4 now and I haven't killed anyone, But man am I sick. Is this normal. I cant get warm, chills, stomach feels like I ate enough for 10 people, my body hurts all over.. WTF.
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Hello, I've chewed Copenhagen for 14 years, and the last 7 of them it was 2 cans a day. I decided to quit on the 10th of april for my health and my family.
Im on day 4 now and I haven't killed anyone, But man am I sick. Is this normal. I cant get warm, chills, stomach feels like I ate enough for 10 people, my body hurts all over.. WTF.
You could be really sick or most likely you're experiencing withdrawal in your own personal way. Everyone goes through the first stages of quitting a little differently. No matter how you spell it, it sucks!!
Could be either but it wouldn't surprise me if it's nic withdrawal.
Tough it out. Your life is worth the fight.
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Hi all. I've been chewing for 5 years. It's time to quit...my teeth are shifting. And my hangovers are terrible. I emptied my last can. I'm bookmarking this page. I know it's going to be tough. Here we go baby.
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Hi all. I've been chewing for 5 years. It's time to quit...my teeth are shifting. And my hangovers are terrible. I emptied my last can. I'm bookmarking this page. I know it's going to be tough. Here we go baby.
You need to go to the welcome center and read about posting roll, read everything you can. You are in the July quitters. PM me with any questions!
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I know this is kind of a bummer question, but does anyone know the overall success rate here? I would think that it is pretty high, but was just curious.
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I know this is kind of a bummer question, but does anyone know the overall success rate here? I would think that it is pretty high, but was just curious.
Not a bummer at all. But a very difficult question to answer quite frankly.
Obviously, not everyone that registers gets/stays quit for the long term. Unfortunately, the only way we "know" if someone is quit is when they're following the program set forth and posting roll on a daily basis. Also unfortunately, many people seem to think that they're "cured" after 100 days (the hall of fame) and drift away from the site thinking they can now go it on their own. Invariably, these people (more often than not) come slinking back to the site a few weeks, months, years later posting a day #1 cause they thought they could have "just one".
Re-reading that, it sounds rather cynical... but I can tell you from a LOT of experience around these parts it's not... it happens all too often.
National "success" rates range anywhere between 5% and 25%. I put success in quotes because it depends on how you define success. I'd say the success rate of our members reaching the hall of fame (100 days) is MUCH higher than that... probably closer to 50%. As for POST-HOF, it's difficult to say because as I alluded to before, when people go away from the site, we can only assume they're still quit.
What I CAN tell you beyond a shadow of a doubt is the folks that put their name on this line index.php?showtopic=3 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=3) (and hundreds others like it on this site) are quit today.
Sorry for the long winded answer... I'm sure it was much more than you were looking for.
chewie
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I know this is kind of a bummer question, but does anyone know the overall success rate here? I would think that it is pretty high, but was just curious.
Not a bummer at all. But a very difficult question to answer quite frankly.
Obviously, not everyone that registers gets/stays quit for the long term. Unfortunately, the only way we "know" if someone is quit is when they're following the program set forth and posting roll on a daily basis. Also unfortunately, many people seem to think that they're "cured" after 100 days (the hall of fame) and drift away from the site thinking they can now go it on their own. Invariably, these people (more often than not) come slinking back to the site a few weeks, months, years later posting a day #1 cause they thought they could have "just one".
Re-reading that, it sounds rather cynical... but I can tell you from a LOT of experience around these parts it's not... it happens all too often.
National "success" rates range anywhere between 5% and 25%. I put success in quotes because it depends on how you define success. I'd say the success rate of our members reaching the hall of fame (100 days) is MUCH higher than that... probably closer to 50%. As for POST-HOF, it's difficult to say because as I alluded to before, when people go away from the site, we can only assume they're still quit.
What I CAN tell you beyond a shadow of a doubt is the folks that put their name on this line index.php?showtopic=3 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=3) (and hundreds others like it on this site) are quit today.
Sorry for the long winded answer... I'm sure it was much more than you were looking for.
chewie
That is what I was looking for, thanks! I am beginning to understand the one day at a time mentality, but it has taken me a few days to get it. Maybe because I am in a fog or maybe I am just a slow learner. :blink: I am quit today and that is all I am going to worry about going forward.
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I know this is kind of a bummer question, but does anyone know the overall success rate here? I would think that it is pretty high, but was just curious.
Not a bummer at all. But a very difficult question to answer quite frankly.
Obviously, not everyone that registers gets/stays quit for the long term. Unfortunately, the only way we "know" if someone is quit is when they're following the program set forth and posting roll on a daily basis. Also unfortunately, many people seem to think that they're "cured" after 100 days (the hall of fame) and drift away from the site thinking they can now go it on their own. Invariably, these people (more often than not) come slinking back to the site a few weeks, months, years later posting a day #1 cause they thought they could have "just one".
Re-reading that, it sounds rather cynical... but I can tell you from a LOT of experience around these parts it's not... it happens all too often.
National "success" rates range anywhere between 5% and 25%. I put success in quotes because it depends on how you define success. I'd say the success rate of our members reaching the hall of fame (100 days) is MUCH higher than that... probably closer to 50%. As for POST-HOF, it's difficult to say because as I alluded to before, when people go away from the site, we can only assume they're still quit.
What I CAN tell you beyond a shadow of a doubt is the folks that put their name on this line index.php?showtopic=3 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=3) (and hundreds others like it on this site) are quit today.
Sorry for the long winded answer... I'm sure it was much more than you were looking for.
chewie
That is what I was looking for, thanks! I am beginning to understand the one day at a time mentality, but it has taken me a few days to get it. Maybe because I am in a fog or maybe I am just a slow learner. :blink: I am quit today and that is all I am going to worry about going forward.
You can beat yourself up about the stupid things you did yesterday, but that won't get you anywhere.
You can make some sort of promise (reasonable or wild) about what you'll do tomorrow, but you aren't there yet.
You can quit now and choose not to put the worm dirt into your mouth today because it's the only moment you have control over.
A successful quit is a series of "nows" strung together.
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I know this is kind of a bummer question, but does anyone know the overall success rate here? I would think that it is pretty high, but was just curious.
Not a bummer at all. But a very difficult question to answer quite frankly.
Obviously, not everyone that registers gets/stays quit for the long term. Unfortunately, the only way we "know" if someone is quit is when they're following the program set forth and posting roll on a daily basis. Also unfortunately, many people seem to think that they're "cured" after 100 days (the hall of fame) and drift away from the site thinking they can now go it on their own. Invariably, these people (more often than not) come slinking back to the site a few weeks, months, years later posting a day #1 cause they thought they could have "just one".
Re-reading that, it sounds rather cynical... but I can tell you from a LOT of experience around these parts it's not... it happens all too often.
National "success" rates range anywhere between 5% and 25%. I put success in quotes because it depends on how you define success. I'd say the success rate of our members reaching the hall of fame (100 days) is MUCH higher than that... probably closer to 50%. As for POST-HOF, it's difficult to say because as I alluded to before, when people go away from the site, we can only assume they're still quit.
What I CAN tell you beyond a shadow of a doubt is the folks that put their name on this line index.php?showtopic=3 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=3) (and hundreds others like it on this site) are quit today.
Sorry for the long winded answer... I'm sure it was much more than you were looking for.
chewie
That is what I was looking for, thanks! I am beginning to understand the one day at a time mentality, but it has taken me a few days to get it. Maybe because I am in a fog or maybe I am just a slow learner. :blink: I am quit today and that is all I am going to worry about going forward.
You can beat yourself up about the stupid things you did yesterday, but that won't get you anywhere.
You can make some sort of promise (reasonable or wild) about what you'll do tomorrow, but you aren't there yet.
You can quit now and choose not to put the worm dirt into your mouth today because it's the only moment you have control over.
A successful quit is a series of "nows" strung together.
hi everyone im in day 2, i am doing the nicotine patch. has anyone tried this or has everyone quit cold turkey? thanks rambos0184
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I know this is kind of a bummer question, but does anyone know the overall success rate here? I would think that it is pretty high, but was just curious.
Not a bummer at all. But a very difficult question to answer quite frankly.
Obviously, not everyone that registers gets/stays quit for the long term. Unfortunately, the only way we "know" if someone is quit is when they're following the program set forth and posting roll on a daily basis. Also unfortunately, many people seem to think that they're "cured" after 100 days (the hall of fame) and drift away from the site thinking they can now go it on their own. Invariably, these people (more often than not) come slinking back to the site a few weeks, months, years later posting a day #1 cause they thought they could have "just one".
Re-reading that, it sounds rather cynical... but I can tell you from a LOT of experience around these parts it's not... it happens all too often.
National "success" rates range anywhere between 5% and 25%. I put success in quotes because it depends on how you define success. I'd say the success rate of our members reaching the hall of fame (100 days) is MUCH higher than that... probably closer to 50%. As for POST-HOF, it's difficult to say because as I alluded to before, when people go away from the site, we can only assume they're still quit.
What I CAN tell you beyond a shadow of a doubt is the folks that put their name on this line index.php?showtopic=3 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=3) (and hundreds others like it on this site) are quit today.
Sorry for the long winded answer... I'm sure it was much more than you were looking for.
chewie
That is what I was looking for, thanks! I am beginning to understand the one day at a time mentality, but it has taken me a few days to get it. Maybe because I am in a fog or maybe I am just a slow learner. :blink: I am quit today and that is all I am going to worry about going forward.
You can beat yourself up about the stupid things you did yesterday, but that won't get you anywhere.
You can make some sort of promise (reasonable or wild) about what you'll do tomorrow, but you aren't there yet.
You can quit now and choose not to put the worm dirt into your mouth today because it's the only moment you have control over.
A successful quit is a series of "nows" strung together.
I have achieved a 100% success ratio by using this site. You can too. It's entirely your choice. That's what matters.
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hi everyone im in day 2, i am doing the nicotine patch. has anyone tried this or has everyone quit cold turkey? thanks rambos0184
Hi Rambo.
Sorry bud, but we don't 'patch' here. This is a strict 100% cold turkey site.
With the patch, you've just changed the delivery method. You haven't Quit yet.
Why don't you tear that patch off, flush your hidden stash, or your trophy can, and try it our way?
From the discussion that is going on in here right now, I can promise you this: if you want to BE Quit, we have a 100% success rate.
Jump in tits deep my friend, and drink the kool aid.
If you need help, or have questions, we're here to provide support like you've never had, but you gotta be 100% nicotine free to get it.
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hi everyone im in day 2, i am doing the nicotine patch. has anyone tried this or has everyone quit cold turkey? thanks rambos0184
Hi Rambo.
Sorry bud, but we don't 'patch' here. This is a strict 100% cold turkey site.
With the patch, you've just changed the delivery method. You haven't Quit yet.
Why don't you tear that patch off, flush your hidden stash, or your trophy can, and try it our way?
From the discussion that is going on in here right now, I can promise you this: if you want to BE Quit, we have a 100% success rate.
Jump in tits deep my friend, and drink the kool aid.
If you need help, or have questions, we're here to provide support like you've never had, but you gotta be 100% nicotine free to get it.
Listen up,
Patch is for covering something up, or a temporary mending. (not fixing)
Rip it off, uncover the wound, let it air out.
Q U I T.
'qt'
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Okay boys, question. And I already know I'm gunna get screamed at by the purists. :D But, can I have a cigar once in awhile?
First of all... I am NOT addicted to cigars. In fact I've never smoked cigs and cant STAND smoking. I will NEVER be a smoker, no way, no how. But on occasion, like maybe once a month, I will enjoy a cigar, with a glass of port after a good meal, with friends around the fire pit or like today, playing golf.
I'm good with my dip quit, have a fresh can of smokey mountain mint chew, which I love... all's good. But it would be nice to have one cigar today. Go or no go?
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Okay boys, question. And I already know I'm gunna get screamed at by the purists. :D But, can I have a cigar once in awhile?
First of all... I am NOT addicted to cigars. In fact I've never smoked cigs and cant STAND smoking. I will NEVER be a smoker, no way, no how. But on occasion, like maybe once a month, I will enjoy a cigar, with a glass of port after a good meal, with friends around the fire pit or like today, playing golf.
I'm good with my dip quit, have a fresh can of smokey mountain mint chew, which I love... all's good. But it would be nice to have one cigar today. Go or no go?
Loppy,
Smoking a cigar is considered a cave. Cigars have nicotine, which you ARE addicted too. Based on the law of addiction (http://www.killthecan.org/robs/law.asp) once you put nicotine in your system one time it will lead to 1). becoming a using addict again or 2). go through day 1-4 nicotine withdrawls again.
In my opinion, no longer being a slave to nicotine is worth giving up the occational stoogie.
And any way you said you "can't STAND smoking". Trust me, you will not miss it as much as you think you will.
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Okay boys, question. And I already know I'm gunna get screamed at by the purists. :D But, can I have a cigar once in awhile?Â
First of all... I am NOT addicted to cigars. In fact I've never smoked cigs and cant STAND smoking. I will NEVER be a smoker, no way, no how. But on occasion, like maybe once a month, I will enjoy a cigar, with a glass of port after a good meal, with friends around the fire pit or like today, playing golf.Â
I'm good with my dip quit, have a fresh can of smokey mountain mint chew, which I love... all's good. But it would be nice to have one cigar today. Go or no go?
Loppy,
Smoking a cigar is considered a cave. Cigars have nicotine, which you ARE addicted too. Based on the law of addiction (http://www.killthecan.org/robs/law.asp) once you put nicotine in your system one time it will lead to 1). becoming a using addict again or 2). go through day 1-4 nicotine withdrawls again.
In my opinion, no longer being a slave to nicotine is worth giving up the occational stoogie.
And any way you said you "can't STAND smoking". Trust me, you will not miss it as much as you think you will.
Nicotine is nicotine no matter in what form it is ingested!
What is the point of quitting one form, if you use another?
The addiction continues . . . .
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Allright, allright... you Nic Nazi's are right. Its just that I cant tell you guys how NON ADDICTED I am to cigars. But saying that... sounds kinda stupid that I even care about one. So, since I dont store or have any, I just wont pick them up this time...
I will however being picking up my customary 18 pack of Bud Light Lime. 18 pack, 18 holes... coincidence? I think not. 'na na'
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Allright, allright... you Nic Nazi's are right. Its just that I cant tell you guys how NON ADDICTED I am to cigars. But saying that... sounds kinda stupid that I even care about one. So, since I dont store or have any, I just wont pick them up this time...
I will however being picking up my customary 18 pack of Bud Light Lime. 18 pack, 18 holes... coincidence? I think not. 'na na'
I hope you are joking.
Drinking that much while playing golf for the first time quit is a bad idea. No one has ever drank 18 beers and then made smart rational decisions.
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Allright, allright... you Nic Nazi's are right. Its just that I cant tell you guys how NON ADDICTED I am to cigars. But saying that... sounds kinda stupid that I even care about one. So, since I dont store or have any, I just wont pick them up this time...
I will however being picking up my customary 18 pack of Bud Light Lime. 18 pack, 18 holes... coincidence? I think not. 'na na'
Please indulge this "Nic Nazi" as you put it and allow me to respond.
The fact that you're rationalizing this by screaming (in a figurative sense) how much you're not addicted to cigars, tells me everything I need to know. You're addicted to cigars.
But don't take it personally... so am I. I haven't had a dip in nearly 2,100 days. Could I conceivably have "just one" cigar while I golf and continue about my way? Sure... I probably could. But that's an incredibly stupid slippery slope to go down... so I don't. And won't... ever.
I've seen countless instances of folks using this line of thinking. It goes like this.
YEAH... I'm quit. This is AWESOME. Fuck nicotine... I'm never going back.
A few weeks later...
Ah... I'm going golfing/fishing/camping (insert activity here) with my buddies. I've always had a cigar in the past. But I quit dipping... but a cigar isn't dipping. I was a DIP addict. One or two cigars a year means I wasn't addicted to cigars... I'll be just fine.
A few weeks later...
Man... that cigar was fucking awesome. But I was able to have just one and that didn't turn into more than one. I'm sure I could just have one dip and be just fine.
A few weeks, moths, years, later...
"Day #1 - Sorry guys... thought I could have just one"
^^^ Don't be that guy. You're smarter than that.
Nic Nazi chewie HEIL QUITLER!!!
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index.php?showtopic=3861 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=3861)
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Allright, allright... you Nic Nazi's are right. Its just that I cant tell you guys how NON ADDICTED I am to cigars. But saying that... sounds kinda stupid that I even care about one. So, since I dont store or have any, I just wont pick them up this time...Â
I will however being picking up my customary 18 pack of Bud Light Lime. 18 pack, 18 holes... coincidence? I think not.  'na na'
Please indulge this "Nic Nazi" as you put it and allow me to respond.
The fact that you're rationalizing this by screaming (in a figurative sense) how much you're not addicted to cigars, tells me everything I need to know. You're addicted to cigars.
But don't take it personally... so am I. I haven't had a dip in nearly 2,100 days. Could I conceivably have "just one" cigar while I golf and continue about my way? Sure... I probably could. But that's an incredibly stupid slippery slope to go down... so I don't. And won't... ever.
I've seen countless instances of folks using this line of thinking. It goes like this.
YEAH... I'm quit. This is AWESOME. Fuck nicotine... I'm never going back.
A few weeks later...
Ah... I'm going golfing/fishing/camping (insert activity here) with my buddies. I've always had a cigar in the past. But I quit dipping... but a cigar isn't dipping. I was a DIP addict. One or two cigars a year means I wasn't addicted to cigars... I'll be just fine.
A few weeks later...
Man... that cigar was fucking awesome. But I was able to have just one and that didn't turn into more than one. I'm sure I could just have one dip and be just fine.
A few weeks, moths, years, later...
"Day #1 - Sorry guys... thought I could have just one"
^^^ Don't be that guy. You're smarter than that.
Nic Nazi chewie HEIL QUITLER!!!
Chewie you made a good point. I too used to enjoy a few cigars a year. I havent had one in longer then I can remember. Through your post I can see how easy it would be to rationalize that one dip. But the main reason I'm replying is "HEIL QUITLER" Thats awesome.
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Allright, allright... you Nic Nazi's are right. Its just that I cant tell you guys how NON ADDICTED I am to cigars. But saying that... sounds kinda stupid that I even care about one. So, since I dont store or have any, I just wont pick them up this time...Â
I will however being picking up my customary 18 pack of Bud Light Lime. 18 pack, 18 holes... coincidence? I think not.  'na na'
Please indulge this "Nic Nazi" as you put it and allow me to respond.
The fact that you're rationalizing this by screaming (in a figurative sense) how much you're not addicted to cigars, tells me everything I need to know. You're addicted to cigars.
But don't take it personally... so am I. I haven't had a dip in nearly 2,100 days. Could I conceivably have "just one" cigar while I golf and continue about my way? Sure... I probably could. But that's an incredibly stupid slippery slope to go down... so I don't. And won't... ever.
I've seen countless instances of folks using this line of thinking. It goes like this.
YEAH... I'm quit. This is AWESOME. Fuck nicotine... I'm never going back.
A few weeks later...
Ah... I'm going golfing/fishing/camping (insert activity here) with my buddies. I've always had a cigar in the past. But I quit dipping... but a cigar isn't dipping. I was a DIP addict. One or two cigars a year means I wasn't addicted to cigars... I'll be just fine.
A few weeks later...
Man... that cigar was fucking awesome. But I was able to have just one and that didn't turn into more than one. I'm sure I could just have one dip and be just fine.
A few weeks, moths, years, later...
"Day #1 - Sorry guys... thought I could have just one"
^^^ Don't be that guy. You're smarter than that.
Nic Nazi chewie HEIL QUITLER!!!
Chewie you made a good point. I too used to enjoy a few cigars a year. I havent had one in longer then I can remember. Through your post I can see how easy it would be to rationalize that one dip. But the main reason I'm replying is "HEIL QUITLER" Thats awesome.
Blew a twelve year quit to hell exactly as you described it. If it's nicotine leave it alone...period.
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Allright, allright... you Nic Nazi's are right. Its just that I cant tell you guys how NON ADDICTED I am to cigars. But saying that... sounds kinda stupid that I even care about one. So, since I dont store or have any, I just wont pick them up this time...Â
I will however being picking up my customary 18 pack of Bud Light Lime. 18 pack, 18 holes... coincidence? I think not.  'na na'
Please indulge this "Nic Nazi" as you put it and allow me to respond.
The fact that you're rationalizing this by screaming (in a figurative sense) how much you're not addicted to cigars, tells me everything I need to know. You're addicted to cigars.
But don't take it personally... so am I. I haven't had a dip in nearly 2,100 days. Could I conceivably have "just one" cigar while I golf and continue about my way? Sure... I probably could. But that's an incredibly stupid slippery slope to go down... so I don't. And won't... ever.
I've seen countless instances of folks using this line of thinking. It goes like this.
YEAH... I'm quit. This is AWESOME. Fuck nicotine... I'm never going back.
A few weeks later...
Ah... I'm going golfing/fishing/camping (insert activity here) with my buddies. I've always had a cigar in the past. But I quit dipping... but a cigar isn't dipping. I was a DIP addict. One or two cigars a year means I wasn't addicted to cigars... I'll be just fine.
A few weeks later...
Man... that cigar was fucking awesome. But I was able to have just one and that didn't turn into more than one. I'm sure I could just have one dip and be just fine.
A few weeks, moths, years, later...
"Day #1 - Sorry guys... thought I could have just one"
^^^ Don't be that guy. You're smarter than that.
Nic Nazi chewie HEIL QUITLER!!!
Chewie you made a good point. I too used to enjoy a few cigars a year. I havent had one in longer then I can remember. Through your post I can see how easy it would be to rationalize that one dip. But the main reason I'm replying is "HEIL QUITLER" Thats awesome.
Blew a twelve year quit to hell exactly as you described it. If it's nicotine leave it alone...period.
"HEIL QUITLER"
Looks lie we need a new avatar!!
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Allright, allright... you Nic Nazi's are right. Its just that I cant tell you guys how NON ADDICTED I am to cigars. But saying that... sounds kinda stupid that I even care about one. So, since I dont store or have any, I just wont pick them up this time...Â
I will however being picking up my customary 18 pack of Bud Light Lime. 18 pack, 18 holes... coincidence? I think not. 'na na'
I hope you are joking.
Drinking that much while playing golf for the first time quit is a bad idea. No one has ever drank 18 beers and then made smart rational decisions.
Don't know what you're talking about. I drank at least that much before I proposed to my wife. Fuck.....never mind.
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Allright, allright... you Nic Nazi's are right. Its just that I cant tell you guys how NON ADDICTED I am to cigars. But saying that... sounds kinda stupid that I even care about one. So, since I dont store or have any, I just wont pick them up this time...Â
I will however being picking up my customary 18 pack of Bud Light Lime. 18 pack, 18 holes... coincidence? I think not.  'na na'
Please indulge this "Nic Nazi" as you put it and allow me to respond.
The fact that you're rationalizing this by screaming (in a figurative sense) how much you're not addicted to cigars, tells me everything I need to know. You're addicted to cigars.
But don't take it personally... so am I. I haven't had a dip in nearly 2,100 days. Could I conceivably have "just one" cigar while I golf and continue about my way? Sure... I probably could. But that's an incredibly stupid slippery slope to go down... so I don't. And won't... ever.
I've seen countless instances of folks using this line of thinking. It goes like this.
YEAH... I'm quit. This is AWESOME. Fuck nicotine... I'm never going back.
A few weeks later...
Ah... I'm going golfing/fishing/camping (insert activity here) with my buddies. I've always had a cigar in the past. But I quit dipping... but a cigar isn't dipping. I was a DIP addict. One or two cigars a year means I wasn't addicted to cigars... I'll be just fine.
A few weeks later...
Man... that cigar was fucking awesome. But I was able to have just one and that didn't turn into more than one. I'm sure I could just have one dip and be just fine.
A few weeks, moths, years, later...
"Day #1 - Sorry guys... thought I could have just one"
^^^ Don't be that guy. You're smarter than that.
Nic Nazi chewie HEIL QUITLER!!!
Chewie you made a good point. I too used to enjoy a few cigars a year. I havent had one in longer then I can remember. Through your post I can see how easy it would be to rationalize that one dip. But the main reason I'm replying is "HEIL QUITLER" Thats awesome.
Blew a twelve year quit to hell exactly as you described it. If it's nicotine leave it alone...period.
"HEIL QUITLER"
Looks lie we need a new avatar!!
When I quit I pondered the same thing. I usually had a cigar or two and vacation no more than 4 a year. My wife even asked early on about cigars and was a little shocked when I said I'll never smoke one again. As my quit grew stronger and I was actually honest with myself, I looked back on my years of dipping something hit me. I would pause or take a break some years for lent, it always started with one cigar on Friday, then one Friday and Saturday and then sometimes two a night by the end. I am addict what ever the delivery I can not have it anymore. Hopefully you didn't do it.
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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 093140.htm (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/04/120402093140.htm)
Interesting read. They've actually isolated the chemical which causes malignant tumours in animal cells, which is a new development since up until now, they knew the use of smokeless caused cancer, but they didn't really understand via which mechanism or chemical process.
Just thought it would be a good read for the nerdier types, or anyone looking for more stay-quit ammunition.
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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 093140.htm (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/04/120402093140.htm)
Interesting read. They've actually isolated the chemical which causes malignant tumours in animal cells, which is a new development since up until now, they knew the use of smokeless caused cancer, but they didn't really understand via which mechanism or chemical process.
Just thought it would be a good read for the nerdier types, or anyone looking for more stay-quit ammunition.
Thanks for posting this! Added it to the KTC Facebook/ Twitter feeds. Much appreciated.
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Thanks for everyone who took part in the "are cigars allowed" discussion below. It inspired this:
New blog post: Cigars And The Quitter
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/04/ciga ... e-quitter/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/04/cigars-and-the-quitter/)
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Thanks for everyone who took part in the "are cigars allowed" discussion below. It inspired this:
New blog post: Cigars And The Quitter
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/04/ciga ... e-quitter/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/04/cigars-and-the-quitter/)
Awesome post man, good read.
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Thanks for everyone who took part in the "are cigars allowed" discussion below. It inspired this:
New blog post:Â Cigars And The Quitter
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/04/ciga ... e-quitter/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/04/cigars-and-the-quitter/)
Awesome post man, good read.
Thank you sir... I appreciate it.
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Hey Guys, you can do it. I did it. I have not made a HOF speech, and I probaby won't. It has been about three years thanks to this website and guys like you. I still have vivid dreams about dipping and I still would LOVE to have another dip. You probably never get over it, but it does get easier. Before I didn't care about the risk of cancer. I watched my gums bleed in the mirror but didn't stop. Today I'm worried that even one dip will take my whole face off.
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Thanks for everyone who took part in the "are cigars allowed" discussion below. It inspired this:
New blog post:Â Â Cigars And The Quitter
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/04/ciga ... e-quitter/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/04/cigars-and-the-quitter/)
Awesome post man, good read.
Thank you sir... I appreciate it.
'clap' 'clap' 'clap'
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Hello ! seems kinda like a dead forum. Its too bad, I was an OG of this forum back in the day. I didn't have too many posts, but I was around and did accomplish the 100 day challenge. Though I had a relapse... It is good to see that this forum is still here, however I hope it can still offer the support that it once did. My Name is Josh, and I want to quit Dip, Hopefully we can help each other in our support to kick the Tin. I want to hear from you ! 'zombie' (only cause im back from the dead)
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Hello ! seems kinda like a dead forum. Its too bad, I was an OG of this forum back in the day. I didn't have too many posts, but I was around and did accomplish the 100 day challenge. Though I had a relapse... It is good to see that this forum is still here, however I hope it can still offer the support that it once did. My Name is Josh, and I want to quit Dip, Hopefully we can help each other in our support to kick the Tin. I want to hear from you ! 'zombie' (only cause im back from the dead)
100 day challenge ?
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Hello ! seems kinda like a dead forum. Its too bad, I was an OG of this forum back in the day. I didn't have too many posts, but I was around and did accomplish the 100 day challenge. Though I had a relapse... It is good to see that this forum is still here, however I hope it can still offer the support that it once did. My Name is Josh, and I want to quit Dip, Hopefully we can help each other in our support to kick the Tin. I want to hear from you ! 'zombie' (only cause im back from the dead)
100 day challenge ?
If you're looking to quit "again", then you didn't accomplish anything, other than to take a break.
Not sure this is the forum you had visited. That said, if you're ready to "quit" (as opposed to "pause") then you're in the right place.
Welcome!
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Hello ! seems kinda like a dead forum. Its too bad, I was an OG of this forum back in the day. I didn't have too many posts, but I was around and did accomplish the 100 day challenge. Though I had a relapse... It is good to see that this forum is still here, however I hope it can still offer the support that it once did. My Name is Josh, and I want to quit Dip, Hopefully we can help each other in our support to kick the Tin. I want to hear from you ! 'zombie' (only cause im back from the dead)
KTC dead? Get a grip buddy. KTC is ever growing, the numbers do not lie. And what do you mean by "way back when"?
Is that when you "took a break" from dipping? Ask anyone here and they're going to laugh and throw hypothetical feces in your face, because you didn't quit shit. In reference to your post, the entire premise of KTC is not a 100-day "challenge". It's an everyday battle to regain control of our lives. We here are addicts (you and me included.)
We'd be glad to bring you into the brotherhood and see you along again, but IMHO I feel that you should: 1, post up a new introduction, stating herein that you have supposedly been here before, that you caved, and are starting again, 2, post in your original group telling them that you've caved if it isn't already known, and 3, post in August 2012 stating that you're a caver and you'd like to join in with their group.
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New blog post: Heartburn When Quitting Dip
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/04/hear ... tting-dip/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/04/heartburn-when-quitting-dip/)
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New blog post: Heartburn When Quitting Dip
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/04/hear ... tting-dip/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/04/heartburn-when-quitting-dip/)
Great article man, I was wondering about heartburn.
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New blog post:Â Heartburn When Quitting Dip
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/04/hear ... tting-dip/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/04/heartburn-when-quitting-dip/)
Great article man, I was wondering about heartburn.
Thank you sir! Always looking for topics... let me know if there's something you'd like me to put together.
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Hello ! seems kinda like a dead forum. Its too bad, I was an OG of this forum back in the day. I didn't have too many posts, but I was around and did accomplish the 100 day challenge. Though I had a relapse... It is good to see that this forum is still here, however I hope it can still offer the support that it once did. My Name is Josh, and I want to quit Dip, Hopefully we can help each other in our support to kick the Tin. I want to hear from you ! 'zombie' (only cause im back from the dead)
100 day challenge ?
If you're looking to quit "again", then you didn't accomplish anything, other than to take a break.
Not sure this is the forum you had visited. That said, if you're ready to "quit" (as opposed to "pause") then you're in the right place.
Welcome!
I am going to agree and say you must have been on another site? If not then you are using a new name which is against the rules here, snice this account only shows two posts. If you were here before under another name you need to let one of us know what your old name was so we can delete this one and you can go back to your other name.
If you are truly ready to quit then you are in the right place. We just need to get some house cleaning in order before you get too far along.
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New blog post:Â Heartburn When Quitting Dip
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/04/hear ... tting-dip/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/04/heartburn-when-quitting-dip/)
Great article man, I was wondering about heartburn.
agree with Sabre .... good article ... thanks
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Hello ! seems kinda like a dead forum. Its too bad, I was an OG of this forum back in the day. I didn't have too many posts, but I was around and did accomplish the 100 day challenge. Though I had a relapse... It is good to see that this forum is still here, however I hope it can still offer the support that it once did. My Name is Josh, and I want to quit Dip, Hopefully we can help each other in our support to kick the Tin. I want to hear from you ! 'zombie' (only cause im back from the dead)
100 day challenge ?
If you're looking to quit "again", then you didn't accomplish anything, other than to take a break.
Not sure this is the forum you had visited. That said, if you're ready to "quit" (as opposed to "pause") then you're in the right place.
Welcome!
I am going to agree and say you must have been on another site? If not then you are using a new name which is against the rules here, snice this account only shows two posts. If you were here before under another name you need to let one of us know what your old name was so we can delete this one and you can go back to your other name.
If you are truly ready to quit then you are in the right place. We just need to get some house cleaning in order before you get too far along.
Wow. Reading posts like this reminds me of the depth of the deception that we ALL used to be consumed in. You're an addict, buddy. Like a heroin user or crack whore. This is a fight for my life, not a 100 day challenge. Good stuff.
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Hello ! seems kinda like a dead forum. Its too bad, I was an OG of this forum back in the day. I didn't have too many posts, but I was around and did accomplish the 100 day challenge. Though I had a relapse... It is good to see that this forum is still here, however I hope it can still offer the support that it once did. My Name is Josh, and I want to quit Dip, Hopefully we can help each other in our support to kick the Tin. I want to hear from you ! 'zombie' (only cause im back from the dead)
100 day challenge ?
If you're looking to quit "again", then you didn't accomplish anything, other than to take a break.
Not sure this is the forum you had visited. That said, if you're ready to "quit" (as opposed to "pause") then you're in the right place.
Welcome!
I am going to agree and say you must have been on another site? If not then you are using a new name which is against the rules here, snice this account only shows two posts. If you were here before under another name you need to let one of us know what your old name was so we can delete this one and you can go back to your other name.
If you are truly ready to quit then you are in the right place. We just need to get some house cleaning in order before you get too far along.
Wow. Reading posts like this reminds me of the depth of the deception that we ALL used to be consumed in. You're an addict, buddy. Like a heroin user or crack whore. This is a fight for my life, not a 100 day challenge. Good stuff.
100 day challenge I thought was the time you first moved in with your girlfriend.
Now quitting can be a challenge of sorts, but it's never ending. Once you start you never stop, not even after 100 days. The nic bitch will challenge you and try to trick you but with the great team assembled within these here walls you will win every challenge. Read everything you can and learn her tricks so you can avoid the pitfalls and you will have a successful quit.
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I received my official KTC camo wristband today. I constant reminder of my quit and what I need to keep focused on. Thanks guys
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Just now in chat while talking to an 18 year old quitter who is struggling:
"a problem + a dip = two problems." yote
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Did anyone notica our new record for online quitters? May 3rd we had 258 online all at once!
Saving lives everday folks!
'clap'
Awesome!
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Hello ! seems kinda like a dead forum. Its too bad, I was an OG of this forum back in the day. I didn't have too many posts, but I was around and did accomplish the 100 day challenge. Though I had a relapse... It is good to see that this forum is still here, however I hope it can still offer the support that it once did. My Name is Josh, and I want to quit Dip, Hopefully we can help each other in our support to kick the Tin. I want to hear from you ! 'zombie' (only cause im back from the dead)
100 day challenge ?
If you're looking to quit "again", then you didn't accomplish anything, other than to take a break.
Not sure this is the forum you had visited. That said, if you're ready to "quit" (as opposed to "pause") then you're in the right place.
Welcome!
I am going to agree and say you must have been on another site? If not then you are using a new name which is against the rules here, snice this account only shows two posts. If you were here before under another name you need to let one of us know what your old name was so we can delete this one and you can go back to your other name.
If you are truly ready to quit then you are in the right place. We just need to get some house cleaning in order before you get too far along.
Wow. Reading posts like this reminds me of the depth of the deception that we ALL used to be consumed in. You're an addict, buddy. Like a heroin user or crack whore. This is a fight for my life, not a 100 day challenge. Good stuff.
100 day challenge I thought was the time you first moved in with your girlfriend.
Now quitting can be a challenge of sorts, but it's never ending. Once you start you never stop, not even after 100 days. The nic bitch will challenge you and try to trick you but with the great team assembled within these here walls you will win every challenge. Read everything you can and learn her tricks so you can avoid the pitfalls and you will have a successful quit.
He seems very serious about quitting with his 2 posts and not actually quitting. But this site is dead and has no support 'Crazy'
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Hello ! seems kinda like a dead forum. Its too bad, I was an OG of this forum back in the day. I didn't have too many posts, but I was around and did accomplish the 100 day challenge. Though I had a relapse... It is good to see that this forum is still here, however I hope it can still offer the support that it once did. My Name is Josh, and I want to quit Dip, Hopefully we can help each other in our support to kick the Tin. I want to hear from you !� 'zombie'� (only cause im back from the dead)
100 day challenge ?
If you're looking to quit "again", then you didn't accomplish anything, other than to take a break.
Not sure this is the forum you had visited. That said, if you're ready to "quit" (as opposed to "pause") then you're in the right place.
Welcome!
I am going to agree and say you must have been on another site? If not then you are using a new name which is against the rules here, snice this account only shows two posts. If you were here before under another name you need to let one of us know what your old name was so we can delete this one and you can go back to your other name.
If you are truly ready to quit then you are in the right place. We just need to get some house cleaning in order before you get too far along.
Wow. Reading posts like this reminds me of the depth of the deception that we ALL used to be consumed in. You're an addict, buddy. Like a heroin user or crack whore. This is a fight for my life, not a 100 day challenge. Good stuff.
100 day challenge I thought was the time you first moved in with your girlfriend.
Now quitting can be a challenge of sorts, but it's never ending. Once you start you never stop, not even after 100 days. The nic bitch will challenge you and try to trick you but with the great team assembled within these here walls you will win every challenge. Read everything you can and learn her tricks so you can avoid the pitfalls and you will have a successful quit.
He seems very serious about quitting with his 2 posts and not actually quitting. But this site is dead and has no support 'Crazy'
That's on us... perhaps we're just not active enough ;)
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New blog post:Â Â Heartburn When Quitting Dip
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/04/hear ... tting-dip/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/04/heartburn-when-quitting-dip/)
Great article man, I was wondering about heartburn.
agree with Sabre .... good article ... thanks
To start, I dipped for the better part of 35 years. The past 5 years, I have had a constant fight with GURD/Heartburn. As of today, I'm at day 7, and the only heartburn felt, was Cinco-De-Mayo (food beer).
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New blog post: And The Winner Is…
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/05/and-the-winner-is/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/05/and-the-winner-is/)
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Hey guys new to the forum and to quiting I'm on day 1!! I just went to the store and bought NICORETE gum with idea that this would be a helpful way to stop chewing, but from what I'm reading here this is not a good way to quit?? I did order some smokeles alternatives now also but should i toss the gum?? 'bang head'
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Hey guys new to the forum and to quiting I'm on day 1!! I just went to the store and bought NICORETE gum with idea that this would be a helpful way to stop chewing, but from what I'm reading here this is not a good way to quit?? I did order some smokeles alternatives now also but should i toss the gum?? 'bang head'
You should toss the gum. You're addicted to nic. It makes no sense to use the drug you're addicted to in order to quit the drug you're addicted to, right?
Nicotine gum does keep someone else profiting off of your decision to "quit" though.
The statistics are clear that your best shot of quitting is to go cold turkey. Using this site and following its time proven methods will raise your chances of being quit to 100%.
Toss the gum and post roll in August 12 quit group today. Let's get it done. We'll help you.
If you haven't already, look up at the WELCOME CENTER link above and go there and read about why we post roll.
I look forward to seeing you post roll and declaring your freedom. I'll not be a slave again. Will you join me?
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Alright gmann!! You got it, gum is tossed :( its gonna be a bitch but im ready!! Thanks for the instant felling of support and communit you guys provide here its really awesome!! (Im going to post roll soon as I find it, just learning how to navigate the forum!) :D
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today is my day one also, i've "quit" before for up to six months but I know now is the time to end it forever, thanks for the support, I know it's going to be rough again.
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I had quit for over 3 months and now have an empty tin of skoal in my car from a few days of use. Anyone ever have a relapse or failure of quitting?
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I had quit for over 3 months and now have an empty tin of skoal in my car from a few days of use. Anyone ever have a relapse or failure of quitting?
I never had a "relapse." I had times when I quit and then wussed out and CHOSE to take a dip.
Relapse makes it sound like you couldn't help it. We are all responsible for our choices here.
Dump the remainder of the tin and go post a day in August. Read about what we do at the WELCOME CENTER link above.
There is absolutely no reason to ever ingest nicotine again.
You can do this.
Yell if you have any questions.
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want2quit, you and me buddy in this together, i've also half assed quiting for a day or two but this time i wanna do it for real. I tossed everything out n have been munching sunflower seeds like im in a tripleheader!! Lets get through this first day n then well get to the next :) Lets both hit our 100 day mark on the same day!
Also Question guys, i feel/look a little heavier today is that because of the seeds or the fact that im not really dehydrated from dippin all day? or both i guess? Do ppl gain weight when they first quit? Im just gonna go to the gym 2 times aday instead of thats the case lol!
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want2quit, you and me buddy in this together, i've also half assed quiting for a day or two but this time i wanna do it for real. I tossed everything out n have been munching sunflower seeds like im in a tripleheader!! Lets get through this first day n then well get to the next :) Lets both hit our 100 day mark on the same day!
Also Question guys, i feel/look a little heavier today is that because of the seeds or the fact that im not really dehydrated from dippin all day? or both i guess? Do ppl gain weight when they first quit? Im just gonna go to the gym 2 times aday instead of thats the case lol!
weight gain is a very real side effect of quitting. That said, you would have to gain over 100 lbs to be as unhealthy as when you were dipping.
Worry about quitting now... you can lose the weight later.
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Although I'm at 11 days right now, and I feel great at times, and like crap at times. There for every day in my head it's day 1. We all must find what it is that gets us going. I wen the first 3 days not telling anyone. Told the wife on day 4, she wanted to know why I had not told her earlier. I said, "I'm doing this for Me and Me alone. THat is the only way I can make it."
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Hi! I am at DAY ONE and really scared!! How can I benefit most out of this site? And about me- I'm 28, female, and want to quit cause it sucks being addicted to something.
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Hi! I am at DAY ONE and really scared!! How can I benefit most out of this site? And about me- I'm 28, female, and want to quit cause it sucks being addicted to something.
Hi. Check out the WELCOME CENTER (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13) above and read all about how this site works and how and why we post roll every day promising to quit.
After that find your quit group, which will be August 2012 because you will hit your 100 days in August.
If you have any other questions feel free to PM me.
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How can I benefit most out of this site?
Get involved. Read everything. Make friends. OWN your quit. For years tobacco owned you... time to turn the tables.
chewie
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New blog post: Another Contest Winner? Yep!
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/05/anot ... inner-yep/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/05/another-contest-winner-yep/)
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Just found this site, with huge dip in my mouth. The 100 benefits of quitting had me laughing my ass off. Because I thought that shit only happened to me!
Been on the dip for 7 years now. Ironically I picked up the habbit in rehab, when I was in kicking some other addications. Great trade off.......
Ordered some fake dip, 3-5 business days it arrives. Then the quitting starts.
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Just found this site, with huge dip in my mouth. The 100 benefits of quitting had me laughing my ass off. Because I thought that shit only happened to me!
Been on the dip for 7 years now. Ironically I picked up the habbit in rehab, when I was in kicking some other addications. Great trade off.......
Ordered some fake dip, 3-5 business days it arrives. Then the quitting starts.
First off.
If your gonna be cruisin around this little quit temple, ferfucksake, spit that shit outta yer mouth. Its like gettin a handy from a tranny in the back of a baptist church while the pastor is preachin' temperance, cmon man.
Second.
Do you really want to quit? Or do you want to think about quitting? Tomorrow never comes dude. How many times have you told yourself you'll do it after your birthday, New Years, Easter, that road trip, inlaw visit or when you get settled in your new job. Whatever the excuse, its all addict talk.
We all know the story. We were all there. We are all still addicts. We can see through your addict talk.
The only difference between you and us is that we know it is imperative to make the decision to quit today. Tomorrow never comes bro. Bottom line. Quit today.
Check out the WELCOME CENTER up and to the left. Read up on how and why we post roll.
Make your promise by posting roll. Keep your promise by not using nicotine today. Repeat every day.
Free yourself.
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Been quit now since 4-20-12 and right now I feel like I'm back in day 2 for the last 3-4 days. Has anyone else had this experience? This has got to pass soon. This time it actually seems a little worse than the fog I first experinced with the nicotine withdrawal. It's fog mixed with a little anger, bitterness, depression, and the like. I can't think. I'm sick to death of fake snuff, seeds, gum, and everything else I shove in my mouth instead of tobacco. Quitting really sucks right now.
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Been quit now since 4-20-12 and right now I feel like I'm back in day 2 for the last 3-4 days. Has anyone else had this experience? This has got to pass soon. This time it actually seems a little worse than the fog I first experinced with the nicotine withdrawal. It's fog mixed with a little anger, bitterness, depression, and the like. I can't think. I'm sick to death of fake snuff, seeds, gum, and everything else I shove in my mouth instead of tobacco. Quitting really sucks right now.
Quitters commonly suffer some angst and "funk" around day 20. I would think you are somewhat close to that. It's normal and should pass within a day or two.
Welcome to the boards.
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Hello, I'm here because I need help quitting. After many failed attempts, it's clear I need help. I've read through the site and am dead serious about doing this. Should I start right away, or take some time to mentally prepare for the suckfest? Any advice is appreciated.
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Hello, I'm here because I need help quitting. After many failed attempts, it's clear I need help. I've read through the site and am dead serious about doing this. Should I start right away, or take some time to mentally prepare for the suckfest? Any advice is appreciated.
Do it. Right now.
You're here because you're motivated. Right now.
If you wait a week to psyche yourself up, that motivation you are feeling right now will most likely be gone. You may as well chalk up another 3 years of slavery. That's the average amount of time until you'll get motivated to "try" again.
A week from now won't be any different in any other way. It won't be easier then than it is right now.
That's right, this won't be easy. It will be difficult. Some days will be downright miserable. But you what? They will also be doable, and you will survive them. And they will be more worth it than you could ever realize right now. Freedom, it tastes great.
Your next step is to take out that last dip your sucking on, toss any cans you may still have (that's right, finishing your current supply will do nothing to help, only risk the chance that today's motivation may fade), and then go post roll.
Roll, you ask? It's our wy of being accountable to each other, and more importantly, ourselves.
Click on the link up top that days "Welcome Center" and read it all. It will give you more depth on why and the whole shebang on how to post roll. Then do it. Repeat tomorrow.
Do it. Right now.
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Hello, I'm here because I need help quitting. After many failed attempts, it's clear I need help. I've read through the site and am dead serious about doing this. Should I start right away, or take some time to mentally prepare for the suckfest? Any advice is appreciated.
Do it. Right now.
You're here because you're motivated. Right now.
If you wait a week to psyche yourself up, that motivation you are feeling right now will most likely be gone. You may as well chalk up another 3 years of slavery. That's the average amount of time until you'll get motivated to "try" again.
A week from now won't be any different in any other way. It won't be easier then than it is right now.
That's right, this won't be easy. It will be difficult. Some days will be downright miserable. But you what? They will also be doable, and you will survive them. And they will be more worth it than you could ever realize right now. Freedom, it tastes great.
Your next step is to take out that last dip your sucking on, toss any cans you may still have (that's right, finishing your current supply will do nothing to help, only risk the chance that today's motivation may fade), and then go post roll.
Roll, you ask? It's our wy of being accountable to each other, and more importantly, ourselves.
Click on the link up top that days "Welcome Center" and read it all. It will give you more depth on why and the whole shebang on how to post roll. Then do it. Repeat tomorrow.
Do it. Right now.
Let's do this.
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Hello, I'm here because I need help quitting. After many failed attempts, it's clear I need help. I've read through the site and am dead serious about doing this. Should I start right away, or take some time to mentally prepare for the suckfest? Any advice is appreciated.
Do it. Right now.
You're here because you're motivated. Right now.
If you wait a week to psyche yourself up, that motivation you are feeling right now will most likely be gone. You may as well chalk up another 3 years of slavery. That's the average amount of time until you'll get motivated to "try" again.
A week from now won't be any different in any other way. It won't be easier then than it is right now.
That's right, this won't be easy. It will be difficult. Some days will be downright miserable. But you what? They will also be doable, and you will survive them. And they will be more worth it than you could ever realize right now. Freedom, it tastes great.
Your next step is to take out that last dip your sucking on, toss any cans you may still have (that's right, finishing your current supply will do nothing to help, only risk the chance that today's motivation may fade), and then go post roll.
Roll, you ask? It's our wy of being accountable to each other, and more importantly, ourselves.
Click on the link up top that days "Welcome Center" and read it all. It will give you more depth on why and the whole shebang on how to post roll. Then do it. Repeat tomorrow.
Do it. Right now.
Let's do this.
Awesome job. Congrats on your newfound freedom!
As a side note, I love this site, not only because it's saved my life, but also because this is not the first time I may have helped save anothers life during my morning constitutional. What other place can make that claim?
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Hello, I'm here because I need help quitting. After many failed attempts, it's clear I need help. I've read through the site and am dead serious about doing this. Should I start right away, or take some time to mentally prepare for the suckfest? Any advice is appreciated.
Do it. Right now.
You're here because you're motivated. Right now.
If you wait a week to psyche yourself up, that motivation you are feeling right now will most likely be gone. You may as well chalk up another 3 years of slavery. That's the average amount of time until you'll get motivated to "try" again.
A week from now won't be any different in any other way. It won't be easier then than it is right now.
That's right, this won't be easy. It will be difficult. Some days will be downright miserable. But you what? They will also be doable, and you will survive them. And they will be more worth it than you could ever realize right now. Freedom, it tastes great.
Your next step is to take out that last dip your sucking on, toss any cans you may still have (that's right, finishing your current supply will do nothing to help, only risk the chance that today's motivation may fade), and then go post roll.
Roll, you ask? It's our wy of being accountable to each other, and more importantly, ourselves.
Click on the link up top that days "Welcome Center" and read it all. It will give you more depth on why and the whole shebang on how to post roll. Then do it. Repeat tomorrow.
Do it. Right now.
Let's do this.
Awesome job. Congrats on your newfound freedom!
As a side note, I love this site, not only because it's saved my life, but also because this is not the first time I may have helped save anothers life during my morning constitutional. What other place can make that claim?
BEST Decision you will ever make!!!!!!!! I was a 30+ year slave and even though its a fight at times, I NEVER want to be a slave ever again!!!!
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New blog post: Bacc Off Review
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/05/bacc-off-review/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/05/bacc-off-review/)
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Just found this site, with huge dip in my mouth. The 100 benefits of quitting had me laughing my ass off. Because I thought that shit only happened to me!
Been on the dip for 7 years now. Ironically I picked up the habbit in rehab, when I was in kicking some other addications. Great trade off.......
Ordered some fake dip, 3-5 business days it arrives. Then the quitting starts.
Just wonder if the herbal stuff is safe. I have a can of Golden Eagle and suggested use is 10 servings per day (20 servings in a can) and no use during pregnancy.
If this stuff is safe and herbal, why the cautions???
:unsure:
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Just found this site, with huge dip in my mouth. The 100 benefits of quitting had me laughing my ass off. Because I thought that shit only happened to me!
Been on the dip for 7 years now. Ironically I picked up the habbit in rehab, when I was in kicking some other addications. Great trade off.......
Ordered some fake dip, 3-5 business days it arrives. Then the quitting starts.
Just wonder if the herbal stuff is safe. I have a can of Golden Eagle and suggested use is 10 servings per day (20 servings in a can) and no use during pregnancy.
If this stuff is safe and herbal, why the cautions???
:unsure:
Dippity,
I'm guessing that the products haven't been tested on pregnant women hence the warning about not using. There are energy stimulants in them, so they probably don't want you overdoing it. I'm sure there's plenty of people here that have ingested this stuff by the gallon within the first couple of days of their quit with no ill effects.
Check out the Welcome Center (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13) and come join us in the rest of the site. PM me if you have any questions, i'd be glad to help.
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poof...
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poof...
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We're approaching 1.5 million posts.
Wow.
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We're approaching 1.5 million posts.
Wow.
Do you think Kdip will get a trophy?
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We're approaching 1.5 million posts.
Wow.
Do you think Kdip will get a trophy?
That would be one he'll of a trophy. T minus 231 to go
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We're approaching 1.5 million posts.
Wow.
Do you think Kdip will get a trophy?
That would be one he'll of a trophy. T minus 231 to go
a countdown might be kinda kewl...
219
trophy anyone?
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We're approaching 1.5 million posts.
Wow.
Do you think Kdip will get a trophy?
That would be one he'll of a trophy. T minus 231 to go
a countdown might be kinda kewl...
219
trophy anyone?
Coming up on 12,000 members as well...
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We're approaching 1.5 million posts.
Wow.
Do you think Kdip will get a trophy?
That would be one he'll of a trophy. T minus 231 to go
a countdown might be kinda kewl...
219
trophy anyone?
Coming up on 12,000 members as well...
183...
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We're approaching 1.5 million posts.
Wow.
Do you think Kdip will get a trophy?
That would be one he'll of a trophy. T minus 231 to go
a countdown might be kinda kewl...
219
trophy anyone?
Coming up on 12,000 members as well...
183...
The neatest thing about this is that the growing numbers represent a lot of victories against nic and big tobacco!!
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We're approaching 1.5 million posts.
Wow.
Do you think Kdip will get a trophy?
That would be one he'll of a trophy. T minus 231 to go
a countdown might be kinda kewl...
219
trophy anyone?
Coming up on 12,000 members as well...
183...
The neatest thing about this is that the growing numbers represent a lot of victories against nic and big tobacco!!
71
Trophy is gonna come and go quick at this mornings roll call.
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We're approaching 1.5 million posts.
Wow.
Do you think Kdip will get a trophy?
That would be one he'll of a trophy. T minus 231 to go
a countdown might be kinda kewl...
219
trophy anyone?
Coming up on 12,000 members as well...
183...
The neatest thing about this is that the growing numbers represent a lot of victories against nic and big tobacco!!
71
Trophy is gonna come and go quick at this mornings roll call.
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Hey Kdip, wanna come see my 1.5 million trophy?
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Hey Kdip, wanna come see my 1.5 million trophy?
'crackup'
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Hey Kdip, wanna come see my 1.5 million trophy?
'crackup'
careful... he might lock the trophy room...
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Hey Kdip, wanna come see my 1.5 million trophy?
'crackup'
careful... he might lock the trophy room...
Worst come on line ever, but...
'Popcorn'
I've been jonesing for a good love story lately.
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gawd, man. I cant stop staring at Kubriks profile picture. jeeezus that is good. LOL
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Nice header, Chewie. You still da man.
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I hope everyone has a safe weekend. Many will party since it's a 4 day weekend. Or maybe go eo a "Memorial Day Blowout" sale. But keep in mind what this weekend is all about. Those things we love to do are only possible because of the men and women who died serving the greatest country in the world. On Monday, and everyday for that matter, remember and give thanks.
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New blog post: Mobile Chat Now Available!
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/05/mobi ... available/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/05/mobile-chat-now-available/)
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man, how long was it for y'all before joyous days came back into the mix?
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last night, the start of day 7, was the hardest for me, so far. Thank god for my wife. Otherwise, i may have went for a can.
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I'm on day 15. I trying to give up the fake shit (smokey mountain) a week ago but needed it Saturday night as I felt I was on the verge of caving. I feel using the fake stuff is keeping the mental addiction alive and want to break with it. I'm also worried about the sugar from the molasses staying next to the teeth for long periods of time. Wasn't worried about all the chemicals in the snuff for 25 years was I? 'Crazy'
Now to my question, does anyone have the insane desire to press on, even press your finger nail into, or apply pressure to their gums where they used to keep the dip? Its almost a nervous tick of mine and I wanted to know when this went away for others? I've noticed my gums are coming back to life and looking more healthy. They used to look inflamed, rough, loose, and almost grey. I also had my teeth cleaned and whitened last week in an effort to seal the deal. I figured I would be less likely to put that shit in my mouth if I would ruin a whitening. As a bonus they found *only* three cavities. Should of read that large print about tooth loss and gum disease on the thousands of cans over the years 'bang head'.
Thanks,
Rob
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I'm on day 15. I trying to give up the fake shit (smokey mountain) a week ago but needed it Saturday night as I felt I was on the verge of caving. I feel using the fake stuff is keeping the mental addiction alive and want to break with it. I'm also worried about the sugar from the molasses staying next to the teeth for long periods of time. Wasn't worried about all the chemicals in the snuff for 25 years was I? 'Crazy'
Now to my question, does anyone have the insane desire to press on, even press your finger nail into, or apply pressure to their gums where they used to keep the dip? Its almost a nervous tick of mine and I wanted to know when this went away for others? I've noticed my gums are coming back to life and looking more healthy. They used to look inflamed, rough, loose, and almost grey. I also had my teeth cleaned and whitened last week in an effort to seal the deal. I figured I would be less likely to put that shit in my mouth if I would ruin a whitening. As a bonus they found *only* three cavities. Should of read that large print about tooth loss and gum disease on the thousands of cans over the years 'bang head'.
Thanks,
Rob
Day 806.
I lived on Hooch Spitfire for the first 200+ days or so. I used it just like I used to dip 'Hagen.
One day...I just didn't put one in. I forgot to. Then I kept forgetting that I 'needed' it.
Eventually, I gave my last can that I had to Norton when he first quit.
I don't use it. I don't feel like I want to 'pack a can'. I don't run my tongue over my gums where I used to keep my dip.
It goes away. Trust me.
But don't expect miracles at Day 15.
Quit today, and keep putting those 'todays' together.
It gets much, much better.
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I'm on day 15. I trying to give up the fake shit (smokey mountain) a week ago but needed it Saturday night as I felt I was on the verge of caving.  I feel using the fake stuff is keeping the mental addiction alive and want to break with it.  I'm also worried about the sugar from the molasses staying next to the teeth for long periods of time.  Wasn't worried about all the chemicals in the snuff for 25 years was I? 'Crazy'
Now to my question, does anyone have the insane desire to press on, even press your finger nail into, or apply pressure to their gums where they used to keep the dip? Its almost a nervous tick of mine and I wanted to know when this went away for others? I've noticed my gums are coming back to life and looking more healthy. They used to look inflamed, rough, loose, and almost grey. I also had my teeth cleaned and whitened last week in an effort to seal the deal. I figured I would be less likely to put that shit in my mouth if I would ruin a whitening.  As a bonus they found *only* three cavities. Should of read that large print about tooth loss and gum disease on the thousands of cans over the years 'bang head'.
Thanks,
Rob
Day 806.
I lived on Hooch Spitfire for the first 200+ days or so. I used it just like I used to dip 'Hagen.
One day...I just didn't put one in. I forgot to. Then I kept forgetting that I 'needed' it.
Eventually, I gave my last can that I had to Norton when he first quit.
I don't use it. I don't feel like I want to 'pack a can'. I don't run my tongue over my gums where I used to keep my dip.
It goes away. Trust me.
But don't expect miracles at Day 15.
Quit today, and keep putting those 'todays' together.
It gets much, much better.
I certainly understand wanting to break free of all dip related chains. I wanted to do the exact same thing....then around 20 something days I decided I wanted to stay quit more than instantly breaking all chains. I was craving hard core and the fake became a big part of my quit arsenal. I used it in stretches through my first year. Like NOLAQ one day you'll just forget about it.
Do what it takes to stay quit.
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man, how long was it for y'all before joyous days came back into the mix?
You'll start catching glimpses of it soon. I had one good day in my first 20 days, and it was just enough to keep me going.
Keep your head down and keep promising us every day that you will not use that day and I promise you, it will get better.
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man, how long was it for y'all before joyous days came back into the mix?
I don't think 'joyous' is ever a part of it. At least I have never noticed that yet.
I guess my example would be when you have an injury or the flu. It bothers you every minute of the day. Then one day you realize it isn't bothering you anymore.
Craving is another story. I'm only 60+ days but there are times everyday where I crave. I don't know if that ever ends.
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I'm on day 15. I trying to give up the fake shit (smokey mountain) a week ago but needed it Saturday night as I felt I was on the verge of caving.  I feel using the fake stuff is keeping the mental addiction alive and want to break with it.  I'm also worried about the sugar from the molasses staying next to the teeth for long periods of time.  Wasn't worried about all the chemicals in the snuff for 25 years was I? 'Crazy'
Now to my question, does anyone have the insane desire to press on, even press your finger nail into, or apply pressure to their gums where they used to keep the dip? Its almost a nervous tick of mine and I wanted to know when this went away for others? I've noticed my gums are coming back to life and looking more healthy. They used to look inflamed, rough, loose, and almost grey. I also had my teeth cleaned and whitened last week in an effort to seal the deal. I figured I would be less likely to put that shit in my mouth if I would ruin a whitening.  As a bonus they found *only* three cavities. Should of read that large print about tooth loss and gum disease on the thousands of cans over the years 'bang head'.
Thanks,
Rob
Day 806.
I lived on Hooch Spitfire for the first 200+ days or so. I used it just like I used to dip 'Hagen.
One day...I just didn't put one in. I forgot to. Then I kept forgetting that I 'needed' it.
Eventually, I gave my last can that I had to Norton when he first quit.
I don't use it. I don't feel like I want to 'pack a can'. I don't run my tongue over my gums where I used to keep my dip.
It goes away. Trust me.
But don't expect miracles at Day 15.
Quit today, and keep putting those 'todays' together.
It gets much, much better.
I certainly understand wanting to break free of all dip related chains. I wanted to do the exact same thing....then around 20 something days I decided I wanted to stay quit more than instantly breaking all chains. I was craving hard core and the fake became a big part of my quit arsenal. I used it in stretches through my first year. Like NOLAQ one day you'll just forget about it.
Do what it takes to stay quit.
Just because you can fly doesn't mean you need to touch the sun, my friend.
Slow down, and keep a steady wing.
Pay attention to your flight, and never forget that you aren't a god.
15 days is fucking awesome, but you are still so very fresh in your quit. Do what's kept you quit for those days now.
If fake stuff is really bothering you, learn how to chew sunflower seeds and pack those in your lip. Use coffee grounds. Clean out your cat box and stick that turd in there. Put anything you want to into your mouth but do not put in that real stuff.
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OK I have a QUESTION ....
I made 2 caps for someone ... I cannot remember who... All I know is that you have a Boy and a Girl. I made a Pink cap and a Lime Green one FOR YOUR KIDS .... Well the caps are finished ... but I cannot recall who I am making these for or where to send them ... So if you are THAT PERSON ... please PM me so I can get these out to you ...
Yeah Yeah ... call it a SENIOR MONENT ... my brain is mush!!
Cheers Mark
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last night, the start of day 7, was the hardest for me, so far. Thank god for my wife. Otherwise, i may have went for a can. In your previous post you asked about feeling joy again? For me my entire adult life (i'm 55) has been about nicotine and the reprogramming is taking time. After 60 days I am still having bad days but the good days are beginning to out number the bad ones.
Shed my wife has also been my best quit contact. Isn't it great!
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last night, the start of day 7, was the hardest for me, so far. Thank god for my wife. Otherwise, i may have went for a can. In your previous post you asked about feeling joy again? For me my entire adult life (i'm 55) has been about nicotine and the reprogramming is taking time. After 60 days I am still having bad days but the good days are beginning to out number the bad ones.
Shed my wife has also been my best quit contact. Isn't it great!
Shed-are you posting roll with August?
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OK I have a QUESTION ....
I made 2 caps for someone ... I cannot remember who... All I know is that you have a Boy and a Girl. I made a Pink cap and a Lime Green one FOR YOUR KIDS .... Well the caps are finished ... but I cannot recall who I am making these for or where to send them ... So if you are THAT PERSON ... please PM me so I can get these out to you ...
Yeah Yeah ... call it a SENIOR MONENT ... my brain is mush!!
Cheers Mark
'crackup'
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Day 2. The first day was all hype. I found this really cool website that is an awsome online community. Everyone is so helpful. Now, let the second guessing begin. Do I really want to quit. If dip were a person, it would be the most attactive stripper wanting to dance on your lap for only $2.00 (a can). Keeping what if's, doubts, and negative self talk down to a minimum is difficult. ARGGGG...
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last night, the start of day 7, was the hardest for me, so far. Thank god for my wife. Otherwise, i may have went for a can. In your previous post you asked about feeling joy again? For me my entire adult life (i'm 55) has been about nicotine and the reprogramming is taking time. After 60 days I am still having bad days but the good days are beginning to out number the bad ones.
Shed my wife has also been my best quit contact. Isn't it great!
Shed-are you posting roll with August?
shed, as a longterm nic user myself (I'm about your age) it took not only my wife but everyone else on here to break my chains of nic addiction. You have a long road ahead of you but its worth every bit of pain you will experience to finally get that crap out of you life!!! Having an understanding and supportive wife from the beginning is great! Mine was more like "show me" and was skeptical in the beginning. She did eventually come around and is very supportive of my quit and what I do on here nowdays.
Kdip - 1368 days clean
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so last night was a huge milestone for me. I was actually able to load up my camping gear in the truck, sit on the deck, and enjoy a beer. I've been deathly afraid of the deck. I couldn't imagine finding joy out there again. I did. i did not stay long but i had a few minutes of joy right before going to bed.
This is pretty big for me. I was sure that my deck sittin joy was GONE
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last night, the start of day 7, was the hardest for me, so far. Thank god for my wife. Otherwise, i may have went for a can. In your previous post you asked about feeling joy again? For me my entire adult life (i'm 55) has been about nicotine and the reprogramming is taking time. After 60 days I am still having bad days but the good days are beginning to out number the bad ones.
Shed my wife has also been my best quit contact. Isn't it great!
Shed-are you posting roll with August?
shed, as a longterm nic user myself (I'm about your age) it took not only my wife but everyone else on here to break my chains of nic addiction. You have a long road ahead of you but its worth every bit of pain you will experience to finally get that crap out of you life!!! Having an understanding and supportive wife from the beginning is great! Mine was more like "show me" and was skeptical in the beginning. She did eventually come around and is very supportive of my quit and what I do on here nowdays.
Kdip - 1368 days clean
yeah, man. I have an amazing wife who i cant thank God enough for. She really helped me through a bad spot. She never has pushed me towards doing this even after quitting smoking herself. once I made the decision, she has been nothing but understanding and supportive and, by Gawd, wouldnt let run down to the store and buy a can on day 7.
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last night, the start of day 7, was the hardest for me, so far. Thank god for my wife. Otherwise, i may have went for a can. In your previous post you asked about feeling joy again? For me my entire adult life (i'm 55) has been about nicotine and the reprogramming is taking time. After 60 days I am still having bad days but the good days are beginning to out number the bad ones.
Shed my wife has also been my best quit contact. Isn't it great!
Shed-are you posting roll with August?
yes, i post roll with August. yeah yeah, i know, im a loser at it.
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last night, the start of day 7, was the hardest for me, so far. Thank god for my wife. Otherwise, i may have went for a can. In your previous post you asked about feeling joy again? For me my entire adult life (i'm 55) has been about nicotine and the reprogramming is taking time. After 60 days I am still having bad days but the good days are beginning to out number the bad ones.
Shed my wife has also been my best quit contact. Isn't it great!
Shed-are you posting roll with August?
yes, i post roll with August. yeah yeah, i know, im a loser at it.
Why are you a "loser at it"?
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last night, the start of day 7, was the hardest for me, so far. Thank god for my wife. Otherwise, i may have went for a can. In your previous post you asked about feeling joy again? For me my entire adult life (i'm 55) has been about nicotine and the reprogramming is taking time. After 60 days I am still having bad days but the good days are beginning to out number the bad ones.
Shed my wife has also been my best quit contact. Isn't it great!
Shed-are you posting roll with August?
yes, i post roll with August. yeah yeah, i know, im a loser at it.
Why are you a "loser at it"?
im not as diligent as maybe I should be at making sure that no matter the cost, I get to a computer and post roll. I'm going to take a beating around these parts for not posting roll, daily. :blink:
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last night, the start of day 7, was the hardest for me, so far. Thank god for my wife. Otherwise, i may have went for a can. In your previous post you asked about feeling joy again? For me my entire adult life (i'm 55) has been about nicotine and the reprogramming is taking time. After 60 days I am still having bad days but the good days are beginning to out number the bad ones.
Shed my wife has also been my best quit contact. Isn't it great!
Absolutely! And, the best thing about it; I know she's been there before and understands my struggles.
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Why do i post Roll In august, anyways?
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Why do i post Roll In august, anyways?
Shed, are you asking why you are in August? or why you post roll?
You are in August because your quit date is May 22. If you are wondering why we post roll - EVERY DAY - then you need to revisit this Giving Your Word (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6318)
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man, how long was it for y'all before joyous days came back into the mix?
I don't think 'joyous' is ever a part of it. At least I have never noticed that yet.
I guess my example would be when you have an injury or the flu. It bothers you every minute of the day. Then one day you realize it isn't bothering you anymore.
Craving is another story. I'm only 60+ days but there are times everyday where I crave. I don't know if that ever ends.
interesting way to look at it. it took me two days to quit being pissed off at such a stupid post but the more in think on it, the more it makes sense.
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Why do i post Roll In august, anyways?
Shed, are you asking why you are in August? or why you post roll?
You are in August because your quit date is May 22. If you are wondering why we post roll - EVERY DAY - then you need to revisit this Giving Your Word (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6318)
no, I'm asking why do I post roll in august. Yes, my quit day is in may so why post roll in August? is it a 3 month milestone of glory? i mean, why August and not May??
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Why do i post Roll In august, anyways?
Shed, are you asking why you are in August? or why you post roll?
You are in August because your quit date is May 22. If you are wondering why we post roll - EVERY DAY - then you need to revisit this Giving Your Word (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6318)
no, I'm asking why do I post roll in august. Yes, my quit day is in may so why post roll in August? is it a 3 month milestone of glory? i mean, why August and not May??
haha, never-mind. that's when I'm an HOFer. i went back and reread and found out all by myself.
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wheres everybody from?
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wheres everybody from?
two minutes of sheer pleasure
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wheres everybody from?
two minutes of sheer pleasure
'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup'
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wheres everybody from?
two minutes of sheer pleasure
'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup'
you little squirt, you
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wheres everybody from?
two minutes of sheer pleasure
'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup'
you little squirt, you
Smartasses aside...you should ask your question here. (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=331)
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Greetings gentlemen, boys and girls. I'm Micah, a 24 year old "chewer" (and previously smoker) who is looking to kick this damn habit.
Now, I'm an avid user of Oliver Twist "chew" bits and I've little experience packing the finer stuff. I ordered a can of Smokey Mtn and I don't know if I can do it... Does anyone know of any stuff that I can "chew" (it has become more psychological now, I think to just chew something) in place of dipping? Maybe like mint leaves? I'm trying to ween myself off of the bits cold, but it's very hard and I'm getting the urge just now thinking about it...
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Greetings gentlemen, boys and girls. I'm Micah, a 24 year old "chewer" (and previously smoker) who is looking to kick this damn habit.
Now, I'm an avid user of Oliver Twist "chew" bits and I've little experience packing the finer stuff. I ordered a can of Smokey Mtn and I don't know if I can do it... Does anyone know of any stuff that I can "chew" (it has become more psychological now, I think to just chew something) in place of dipping? Maybe like mint leaves? I'm trying to ween myself off of the bits cold, but it's very hard and I'm getting the urge just now thinking about it...
Don't be a pussy. Quit cold turkey is the only way . Why stretch it out and fight it, stop looking for reasons to chew. buy some beef jerky, sun flower seeds, gum. those will help alot. Every day is hard when you first quit.
So read as much info on this site as you can and find your quit group . Post roll every day. that is the most important part.
There is no tobacco use on this site at all. no nic either. no nic gum or patches.. so just Man up and kick the nic.
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Easier said than done for some people... I have been off it for a week now and there have been nights where I couldn't sleep, yes, but I think I'm doing pretty well. I don't think I'm a pussy though. There are a lot of people here who use tobacco free non-nicotine dips that I don't think are pussies. Anyway, I think I'm doing fine all in all. Another day closer to quitting and I'm happy. Lately I've been chewing on cough drops (weird, I know, but they seem to help me fight the cravings). B)
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Easier said than done for some people... I have been off it for a week now and there have been nights where I couldn't sleep, yes, but I think I'm doing pretty well. I don't think I'm a pussy though. There are a lot of people here who use tobacco free non-nicotine dips that I don't think are pussies. Anyway, I think I'm doing fine all in all. Another day closer to quitting and I'm happy. Lately I've been chewing on cough drops (weird, I know, but they seem to help me fight the cravings). B)
As long as it doesn't have nic put what ever you want in your mouth.
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wheres everybody from?
two minutes of sheer pleasure
'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup'
you little squirt, you
Smartasses aside...you should ask your question here. (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=331)
:rustaf:
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Easier said than done for some people... I have been off it for a week now and there have been nights where I couldn't sleep, yes, but I think I'm doing pretty well. I don't think I'm a pussy though. There are a lot of people here who use tobacco free non-nicotine dips that I don't think are pussies. Anyway, I think I'm doing fine all in all. Another day closer to quitting and I'm happy. Lately I've been chewing on cough drops (weird, I know, but they seem to help me fight the cravings). B)
As long as it doesn't have nic put what ever you want in your mouth.
Don't tell that to Auburn
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Day 5 - I plan on drinking tonight. If I change my behavior then Skoal is still winning. Skoal doesn't win - I do. If I feel like having some beers I'm having them. I'm mentally tough enough. It's right here for the world to see.
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Day 5 - I plan on drinking tonight. If I change my behavior then Skoal is still winning. Skoal doesn't win - I do. If I feel like having some beers I'm having them. I'm mentally tough enough. It's right here for the world to see.
Completely wrong attitude to take morgan. You are showing your cards, playing against the odds, and letting your opponent cheat, all in the same move.
So many quits have been lost, especially early on like you are, to loose inhibitions. Playing with fire and I hope you are back tomorrow posting day 6.
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Day 5 - I plan on drinking tonight. If I change my behavior then Skoal is still winning. Skoal doesn't win - I do. If I feel like having some beers I'm having them. I'm mentally tough enough. It's right here for the world to see.
Completely wrong attitude to take morgan. You are showing your cards, playing against the odds, and letting your opponent cheat, all in the same move.
So many quits have been lost, especially early on like you are, to loose inhibitions. Playing with fire and I hope you are back tomorrow posting day 6.
Agree with Wedgie. There is nothing to be gained by drinking so early in the quit. I think that is the #1 cave story on these boards.
Answer me this Morgan. Have you ever had a few one night and ended up nailing some chick that you would never even consider talking to when you are sober ?
If the answer is yes, then I would highly suggest forgetting the beer tonight.
Seriously dude, where do you think the idea came from " If I change my behaviour then Skoal is still winning" I will tell you where that idea came from. Your nicotine addicted brain. It knows exactly that the odds increase in nicotines favor if you try and drink so early in your quit.
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Day 5 - I plan on drinking tonight. If I change my behavior then Skoal is still winning. Skoal doesn't win - I do. If I feel like having some beers I'm having them. I'm mentally tough enough. It's right here for the world to see.
Completely wrong attitude to take morgan. You are showing your cards, playing against the odds, and letting your opponent cheat, all in the same move.
So many quits have been lost, especially early on like you are, to loose inhibitions. Playing with fire and I hope you are back tomorrow posting day 6.
Agree with Wedgie. There is nothing to be gained by drinking so early in the quit. I think that is the #1 cave story on these boards.
Answer me this Morgan. Have you ever had a few one night and ended up nailing some chick that you would never even consider talking to when you are sober ?
If the answer is yes, then I would highly suggest forgetting the beer tonight.
Seriously dude, where do you think the idea came from " If I change my behaviour then Skoal is still winning" I will tell you where that idea came from. Your nicotine addicted brain. It knows exactly that the odds increase in nicotines favor if you try and drink so early in your quit.
Nothing good comes from this...
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wheres everybody from?
two minutes of sheer pleasure
'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup'
you little squirt, you
Smartasses aside...you should ask your question here. (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=331)
:rustaf:
I got some brochures for you ass razd........
I did not come here to be made sport of.
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Day 5 - I plan on drinking tonight. If I change my behavior then Skoal is still winning. Skoal doesn't win - I do. If I feel like having some beers I'm having them. I'm mentally tough enough. It's right here for the world to see.
Completely wrong attitude to take morgan. You are showing your cards, playing against the odds, and letting your opponent cheat, all in the same move.
So many quits have been lost, especially early on like you are, to loose inhibitions. Playing with fire and I hope you are back tomorrow posting day 6.
Agree with Wedgie. There is nothing to be gained by drinking so early in the quit. I think that is the #1 cave story on these boards.
Answer me this Morgan. Have you ever had a few one night and ended up nailing some chick that you would never even consider talking to when you are sober ?
If the answer is yes, then I would highly suggest forgetting the beer tonight.
Seriously dude, where do you think the idea came from " If I change my behaviour then Skoal is still winning" I will tell you where that idea came from. Your nicotine addicted brain. It knows exactly that the odds increase in nicotines favor if you try and drink so early in your quit.
Nothing good comes from this...
I made this post b/c it guaranteed I would not dip tonight. I wouldn't have anyway, but I wanted to be sure....
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Day 5 - I plan on drinking tonight. If I change my behavior then Skoal is still winning. Skoal doesn't win - I do. If I feel like having some beers I'm having them. I'm mentally tough enough. It's right here for the world to see.
Completely wrong attitude to take morgan. You are showing your cards, playing against the odds, and letting your opponent cheat, all in the same move.
So many quits have been lost, especially early on like you are, to loose inhibitions. Playing with fire and I hope you are back tomorrow posting day 6.
Agree with Wedgie. There is nothing to be gained by drinking so early in the quit. I think that is the #1 cave story on these boards.
Answer me this Morgan. Have you ever had a few one night and ended up nailing some chick that you would never even consider talking to when you are sober ?
If the answer is yes, then I would highly suggest forgetting the beer tonight.
Seriously dude, where do you think the idea came from " If I change my behaviour then Skoal is still winning" I will tell you where that idea came from. Your nicotine addicted brain. It knows exactly that the odds increase in nicotines favor if you try and drink so early in your quit.
Nothing good comes from this...
I made this post b/c it guaranteed I would not dip tonight. I wouldn't have anyway, but I wanted to be sure....
That's great Morgan. Glad to hear you made it to day 6
I'm sure you have heard the joke about the 2 wolves on the hill looking down at a flock of sheep. The young one says ...let's run down there and fuck a sheep. The older one says .....why don't we walk down, and fuck all of them.
Quiting nicotine isn't a race. It's a one day at a time marathon. You are full of piss and vinegar right now pumped up on adrenaline. That will eventually fade. When it does, you will want to make sure you have everything in place to be able to battle the craves, funks and blues. No need to make it any more difficult than it needs to be by "challenging" yourself with some bullshit obstacle.
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Day 5 - I plan on drinking tonight. If I change my behavior then Skoal is still winning. Skoal doesn't win - I do. If I feel like having some beers I'm having them. I'm mentally tough enough. It's right here for the world to see.
Completely wrong attitude to take morgan. You are showing your cards, playing against the odds, and letting your opponent cheat, all in the same move.
So many quits have been lost, especially early on like you are, to loose inhibitions. Playing with fire and I hope you are back tomorrow posting day 6.
Agree with Wedgie. There is nothing to be gained by drinking so early in the quit. I think that is the #1 cave story on these boards.
Answer me this Morgan. Have you ever had a few one night and ended up nailing some chick that you would never even consider talking to when you are sober ?
If the answer is yes, then I would highly suggest forgetting the beer tonight.
Seriously dude, where do you think the idea came from " If I change my behaviour then Skoal is still winning" I will tell you where that idea came from. Your nicotine addicted brain. It knows exactly that the odds increase in nicotines favor if you try and drink so early in your quit.
Nothing good comes from this...
I made this post b/c it guaranteed I would not dip tonight. I wouldn't have anyway, but I wanted to be sure....
That's great Morgan. Glad to hear you made it to day 6
I'm sure you have heard the joke about the 2 wolves on the hill looking down at a flock of sheep. The young one says ...let's run down there and fuck a sheep. The older one says .....why don't we walk down, and fuck all of them.
Quiting nicotine isn't a race. It's a one day at a time marathon. You are full of piss and vinegar right now pumped up on adrenaline. That will eventually fade. When it does, you will want to make sure you have everything in place to be able to battle the craves, funks and blues. No need to make it any more difficult than it needs to be by "challenging" yourself with some bullshit obstacle.
If you are a sports fan Morgan, you'll know that teams that adapt to their opponents ways more often and more quickly win more than they lose. A football coach changes the gameplan at half time to decide the outcome.
No shame in doing what you have to do to win.
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Day 5 - I plan on drinking tonight. If I change my behavior then Skoal is still winning. Skoal doesn't win - I do. If I feel like having some beers I'm having them. I'm mentally tough enough. It's right here for the world to see.
Completely wrong attitude to take morgan. You are showing your cards, playing against the odds, and letting your opponent cheat, all in the same move.
So many quits have been lost, especially early on like you are, to loose inhibitions. Playing with fire and I hope you are back tomorrow posting day 6.
Agree with Wedgie. There is nothing to be gained by drinking so early in the quit. I think that is the #1 cave story on these boards.
Answer me this Morgan. Have you ever had a few one night and ended up nailing some chick that you would never even consider talking to when you are sober ?
If the answer is yes, then I would highly suggest forgetting the beer tonight.
Seriously dude, where do you think the idea came from " If I change my behaviour then Skoal is still winning" I will tell you where that idea came from. Your nicotine addicted brain. It knows exactly that the odds increase in nicotines favor if you try and drink so early in your quit.
Nothing good comes from this...
I made this post b/c it guaranteed I would not dip tonight. I wouldn't have anyway, but I wanted to be sure....
That's great Morgan. Glad to hear you made it to day 6
I'm sure you have heard the joke about the 2 wolves on the hill looking down at a flock of sheep. The young one says ...let's run down there and fuck a sheep. The older one says .....why don't we walk down, and fuck all of them.
Quiting nicotine isn't a race. It's a one day at a time marathon. You are full of piss and vinegar right now pumped up on adrenaline. That will eventually fade. When it does, you will want to make sure you have everything in place to be able to battle the craves, funks and blues. No need to make it any more difficult than it needs to be by "challenging" yourself with some bullshit obstacle.
If you are a sports fan Morgan, you'll know that teams that adapt to their opponents ways more often and more quickly win more than they lose. A football coach changes the gameplan at half time to decide the outcome.
No shame in doing what you have to do to win.
Came through with flying colors.....never even really came close to worrying about it. Mind is clear and strong. Yes, I'm pretty gung ho on the quit and that may fade and turn into a daily struggle.....but it may not. Right now I'm not worried about the future - I'm worried about today. I'm jacked to quit. Rock on.
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Make a post in the Introduction section Morgan. It's your own personal diary that won't get lost in a General forum like this. It will also get better support.
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Make a post in the Introduction section Morgan. It's your own personal diary that won't get lost in a General forum like this. It will also get better support.
ON IT...TKS
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12,000 Members coming up . . . .
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Quit today. Job is very stressful. I've quit several times and it keeps coming back.
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Day 5 - I plan on drinking tonight. If I change my behavior then Skoal is still winning. Skoal doesn't win - I do. If I feel like having some beers I'm having them. I'm mentally tough enough. It's right here for the world to see.
I had beers all through my quit. I'm working towards day twelve, now. not that i condone this or not. it's just my story. Best of quit to you, my friend!
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Toothpics! that's what i use. I'm a regular friggin beaver, anymore. I go through more wood than a whore at avn event.
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Toothpics! that's what i use. I'm a regular friggin beaver, anymore. I go through more wood than a whore at avn event.
Shed,
According to the spreadsheet, you should be on day 13 today.
What day did you quit?
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Toothpics! that's what i use. I'm a regular friggin beaver, anymore. I go through more wood than a whore at avn event.
Shed,
According to the spreadsheet, you should be on day 13 today.
What day did you quit?
No, its true and that's the day I claim for myself but didn't want to cheat the page because I wore a patch for a few hours that morning before throwing it in the trash, so, I did not claim that day. My last tobacco was on May 22nd. However, I wore a patch for a couple hours on Wednesday the 23rd. That's why the discrepancy.
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Toothpics! that's what i use. I'm a regular friggin beaver, anymore. I go through more wood than a whore at avn event.
Shed,
According to the spreadsheet, you should be on day 13 today.
What day did you quit?
No, its true and that's the day I claim for myself but didn't want to cheat the page because I wore a patch for a few hours that morning before throwing it in the trash, so, I did not claim that day. My last tobacco was on May 22nd. However, I wore a patch for a couple hours on Wednesday the 23rd. That's why the discrepancy.
I may be a quitter, but I aint a cheater. B)
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Toothpics! that's what i use. I'm a regular friggin beaver, anymore. I go through more wood than a whore at avn event.
Shed,
According to the spreadsheet, you should be on day 13 today.
What day did you quit?
No, its true and that's the day I claim for myself but didn't want to cheat the page because I wore a patch for a few hours that morning before throwing it in the trash, so, I did not claim that day. My last tobacco was on May 22nd. However, I wore a patch for a couple hours on Wednesday the 23rd. That's why the discrepancy.
I may be a quitter, but I aint a cheater. B)
Not saying you are a cheater.
Just saying that the day that you decide to quit is day 1.
For example, I quit at 1 pm on a Wednesday. I claimed that as day 1.
If you quit at 11:30 pm, you could technically post a day 2 the next morning.
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Toothpics! that's what i use. I'm a regular friggin beaver, anymore. I go through more wood than a whore at avn event.
Shed,
According to the spreadsheet, you should be on day 13 today.
What day did you quit?
No, its true and that's the day I claim for myself but didn't want to cheat the page because I wore a patch for a few hours that morning before throwing it in the trash, so, I did not claim that day. My last tobacco was on May 22nd. However, I wore a patch for a couple hours on Wednesday the 23rd. That's why the discrepancy.
I may be a quitter, but I aint a cheater. B)
Not saying you are a cheater.
Just saying that the day that you decide to quit is day 1.
For example, I quit at 1 pm on a Wednesday. I claimed that as day 1.
If you quit at 11:30 pm, you could technically post a day 2 the next morning.
if thats the case, Im day 14 tomorrow at 12:30. LOL
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Toothpics! that's what i use. I'm a regular friggin beaver, anymore. I go through more wood than a whore at avn event.
Shed,
According to the spreadsheet, you should be on day 13 today.
What day did you quit?
No, its true and that's the day I claim for myself but didn't want to cheat the page because I wore a patch for a few hours that morning before throwing it in the trash, so, I did not claim that day. My last tobacco was on May 22nd. However, I wore a patch for a couple hours on Wednesday the 23rd. That's why the discrepancy.
I may be a quitter, but I aint a cheater. B)
Not saying you are a cheater.
Just saying that the day that you decide to quit is day 1.
For example, I quit at 1 pm on a Wednesday. I claimed that as day 1.
If you quit at 11:30 pm, you could technically post a day 2 the next morning.
if thats the case, Im day 14 tomorrow at 12:30. LOL
hehe, and more than happy to claim two weeks!! :D
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New blog post: 12,000 Members And Growing!
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12,000 Members 'clap'
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got in a heated politics discussion with the wife tonight. talk about a fucking serious trigger. I will avoid such discussions in the future
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I feel like any minute now something terrible is going to happen. A craving SO bad that I will either cave or literally cripple from the pain. My last morsel of nicotine was 52 hours ago. So far the only side effect I have had is excessive irritability and difficulty concentrating. I haven't been sick or in pain. I do crave every now and then but I am able to overcome to urge to dip. For me "the suck" will be over tomorrow, but I am nervous that since my "suck" hasn't sucked that I am going to to have some sort of delayed reaction I guess. I have been taking Restoril for a while because of sleep issues I have, maybe that is a contributor as to why I have had limited sypmtoms... I am excited though... I have made it this far... There is no reason I need to go back to dip.........................
I just need to rip some heads off at work.... 'bang head'
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I feel like any minute now something terrible is going to happen. A craving SO bad that I will either cave or literally cripple from the pain. My last morsel of nicotine was 52 hours ago. So far the only side effect I have had is excessive irritability and difficulty concentrating. I haven't been sick or in pain. I do crave every now and then but I am able to overcome to urge to dip. For me "the suck" will be over tomorrow, but I am nervous that since my "suck" hasn't sucked that I am going to to have some sort of delayed reaction I guess. I have been taking Restoril for a while because of sleep issues I have, maybe that is a contributor as to why I have had limited sypmtoms... I am excited though... I have made it this far... There is no reason I need to go back to dip.........................
I just need to rip some heads off at work.... 'bang head'
hang tough but and be prepared for the "suck" to not go away when you expect it to. that could cause a point of failure. day 15 here, and suck still pops in and shows its ugly self. it about ruined me on day 7
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I feel like any minute now something terrible is going to happen. A craving SO bad that I will either cave or literally cripple from the pain. My last morsel of nicotine was 52 hours ago. So far the only side effect I have had is excessive irritability and difficulty concentrating. I haven't been sick or in pain. I do crave every now and then but I am able to overcome to urge to dip. For me "the suck" will be over tomorrow, but I am nervous that since my "suck" hasn't sucked that I am going to to have some sort of delayed reaction I guess. I have been taking Restoril for a while because of sleep issues I have, maybe that is a contributor as to why I have had limited sypmtoms... I am excited though... I have made it this far... There is no reason I need to go back to dip.........................
I just need to rip some heads off at work.... 'bang head'
hang tough but and be prepared for the "suck" to not go away when you expect it to. that could cause a point of failure. day 15 here, and suck still pops in and shows its ugly self. it about ruined me on day 7
Start ripping!! Pm me or Let's exchange #'s ! You suck helps me!
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I feel like any minute now something terrible is going to happen. A craving SO bad that I will either cave or literally cripple from the pain. My last morsel of nicotine was 52 hours ago. So far the only side effect I have had is excessive irritability and difficulty concentrating. I haven't been sick or in pain. I do crave every now and then but I am able to overcome to urge to dip. For me "the suck" will be over tomorrow, but I am nervous that since my "suck" hasn't sucked that I am going to to have some sort of delayed reaction I guess. I have been taking Restoril for a while because of sleep issues I have, maybe that is a contributor as to why I have had limited sypmtoms... I am excited though... I have made it this far... There is no reason I need to go back to dip.........................
I just need to rip some heads off at work.... 'bang head'
hang tough but and be prepared for the "suck" to not go away when you expect it to. that could cause a point of failure. day 15 here, and suck still pops in and shows its ugly self. it about ruined me on day 7
Start ripping!! Pm me or Let's exchange #'s ! You suck helps me!
I got your number just cant call/text. I live on Guam so I am 14 hours + of EST, its difficult to get in touch with the states.... ill be home soon though!
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I feel like any minute now something terrible is going to happen. A craving SO bad that I will either cave or literally cripple from the pain. My last morsel of nicotine was 52 hours ago. So far the only side effect I have had is excessive irritability and difficulty concentrating. I haven't been sick or in pain. I do crave every now and then but I am able to overcome to urge to dip. For me "the suck" will be over tomorrow, but I am nervous that since my "suck" hasn't sucked that I am going to to have some sort of delayed reaction I guess. I have been taking Restoril for a while because of sleep issues I have, maybe that is a contributor as to why I have had limited sypmtoms... I am excited though... I have made it this far... There is no reason I need to go back to dip.........................
I just need to rip some heads off at work.... 'bang head'
hang tough but and be prepared for the "suck" to not go away when you expect it to. that could cause a point of failure. day 15 here, and suck still pops in and shows its ugly self. it about ruined me on day 7
Start ripping!! Pm me or Let's exchange #'s ! You suck helps me!
I got your number just cant call/text. I live on Guam so I am 14 hours + of EST, its difficult to get in touch with the states.... ill be home soon though!
can email me at drogers@thinkesc.com (http://mailto:drogers@thinkesc.com), if that helps
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I'm on day 43, has anyone experienced a change in stool color to a almost yellow?
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I'm on day 43, has anyone experienced a change in stool color to a almost yellow?
cant say that I have
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I'm on day 43, has anyone experienced a change in stool color to a almost yellow?
cant say that I have
Being this is the first day here I won't giggle cause you done thrown out the use of "stool."
I'm nothing close to a medical professional so take this for what it is, just an opinion.
Lot's of crazy things happen to your body in the beginning. What type of oral subsitutes are you using?? Gum, fireballs, jolly ranchers, jerky, fake dip, sunflower seeds??? Could be something along them lines that you are overloading on that's caused the change.
I had excessive burping for quite some time... finally figured out that there is some ingredient in sugar free gum that can cause gas...that combined with taking in more air while chewing said gum. Being I was chewing about 3 packs a day I was one gassed up SOB.
Like I said, crazy shit happens in the beginning. However, you know you better than anybody. If it's something you are concerned about go see a doc.
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I'm on day 43, has anyone experienced a change in stool color to a almost yellow?
If you are sure it isn't due to something you ate then it is likely caused by a number of things, none of which are good (liver, pancreas, or intestinal diseases) - go see a doctor asap
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I'm on day 43, has anyone experienced a change in stool color to a almost yellow?
Retrieved from:
http://altmedicine.about.com/od/getting ... stools.htm (http://altmedicine.about.com/od/gettingdiagnosed/a/stools.htm)
Yellow Stool
"Yellow stool can indicate that food is passing through the digestive tract relatively quickly. Yellow stool can be found in people with GERD (gastroesophageal reflux disease). Symptoms of GERD include heartburn, chest pain, sore throat, chronic cough, and wheezing. Symptoms are usually worse when lying down or bending. Foods that can worsen GERD symptoms include peppermint, fatty foods, alcohol, coffee, and chocolate.
Yellow stool can also result from insuffient bile output. Bile salts from the liver gives stool its brownish color. When bile output is diminished, it often first appears as yellow stool. If there is a greater reduction in bile output, stool lose almost all of its color, becoming pale or grey.
If the onset is sudden, yellow stool can also be a sign of a bacterial infection in the intestines."
Pretty much from the other sites I have read it is either something benign and not really cause for concern, or a deadly infection that will probably cause the doctor to quarantine you as they run screaming to call the Center for Disease Control.... I think you should be ok.
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I'm on day 43, has anyone experienced a change in stool color to a almost yellow?
Retrieved from:
http://altmedicine.about.com/od/getting ... stools.htm (http://altmedicine.about.com/od/gettingdiagnosed/a/stools.htm)
Yellow Stool
"Yellow stool can indicate that food is passing through the digestive tract relatively quickly. Yellow stool can be found in people with GERD (gastroesophageal reflux disease). Symptoms of GERD include heartburn, chest pain, sore throat, chronic cough, and wheezing. Symptoms are usually worse when lying down or bending. Foods that can worsen GERD symptoms include peppermint, fatty foods, alcohol, coffee, and chocolate.
Yellow stool can also result from insuffient bile output. Bile salts from the liver gives stool its brownish color. When bile output is diminished, it often first appears as yellow stool. If there is a greater reduction in bile output, stool lose almost all of its color, becoming pale or grey.
If the onset is sudden, yellow stool can also be a sign of a bacterial infection in the intestines."
Pretty much from the other sites I have read it is either something benign and not really cause for concern, or a deadly infection that will probably cause the doctor to quarantine you as they run screaming to call the Center for Disease Control.... I think you should be ok.
Esophageal reflux is very common to new quits. We are usually ingesting more volume of food, drinking more coffee, and in the words of rolln - eating things that are hot as fuck.
Other causes are quite serious - things that cause jaundice. Are the whites of your eyes yellow? Are your gums turning yellow? If this is the case, you should visit your Dr. today.
Take all this for what it is worth. We know a lot about shit, but we are not the internal medicine dept of johns hopkins. I would advise you to talk with your Dr.
Vadge
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Swell, all this SUCK and now i gotta worry about yellow turds. Is there anything else i should know? Is something i need gonna fall off?
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Swell, all this SUCK and now i gotta worry about yellow turds. Is there anything else i should know? Is something i need gonna fall off?
Your sanity for the first few days..
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Got a friend says hes quitting smoking, I told him to go to whackthepack. My question is should I sign up there as well to help support him or just do it here. I would rather be here because of my own addictions but have quit both at the same time. I do want to support every one I can, what do I do????
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Got a friend says hes quitting smoking, I told him to go to whackthepack. My question is should I sign up there as well to help support him or just do it here. I would rather be here because of my own addictions but have quit both at the same time. I do want to support every one I can, what do I do????
Do it. I think WTP has less traffic than here so the more the merrier. We're all nicotine addicts in the end, delivery method doesn't really matter.
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It's day 8 for me, about to be day 9 in 1.5 hours.... My mouth fucking hurts... Why? There are no sores or anything and the pain feels like its in the bones like right where my teeth should be sitting in them... Cause for concern or cause for relief? Idk... but I also know day 8 was a rough one. Definitely got hit hard with the cravings, and my mind always goes to this scary place of like "if I take one dip now ill be alright, it's only one hiccup" or "hey if I take a dip I don't have to tell anyone and can keep going" ... Ultimately I talk myself out of it because I can't lie to the guys in my quit group. They trust me, and I trust them. If either of us betray that the whole relationship will fall apart... plus we have had too many cavers since I joined 8 days ago... AH I hate this shit... sorry if this is in the wrong forum, I just figured it was pretty general
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It's day 8 for me, about to be day 9 in 1.5 hours.... My mouth fucking hurts... Why? There are no sores or anything and the pain feels like its in the bones like right where my teeth should be sitting in them... Cause for concern or cause for relief? Idk... but I also know day 8 was a rough one. Definitely got hit hard with the cravings, and my mind always goes to this scary place of like "if I take one dip now ill be alright, it's only one hiccup" or "hey if I take a dip I don't have to tell anyone and can keep going" ... Ultimately I talk myself out of it because I can't lie to the guys in my quit group. They trust me, and I trust them. If either of us betray that the whole relationship will fall apart... plus we have had too many cavers since I joined 8 days ago... AH I hate this shit... sorry if this is in the wrong forum, I just figured it was pretty general
That's how I got through it, make that promise by posting roll every day. Remember, take it one day at a time. I have had some of the same thoughts and still do but I am able to fight them off better. I've been quit for 33 days and if I can stay quit for 33, I can go for 34 and so on. I don't want to start over and I definitely don't want to let the other guys down in my group so stay strong and stay quit!!
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It's day 8 for me, about to be day 9 in 1.5 hours.... My mouth fucking hurts... Why? There are no sores or anything and the pain feels like its in the bones like right where my teeth should be sitting in them... Cause for concern or cause for relief? Idk... but I also know day 8 was a rough one. Definitely got hit hard with the cravings, and my mind always goes to this scary place of like "if I take one dip now ill be alright, it's only one hiccup" or "hey if I take a dip I don't have to tell anyone and can keep going" ... Ultimately I talk myself out of it because I can't lie to the guys in my quit group. They trust me, and I trust them. If either of us betray that the whole relationship will fall apart... plus we have had too many cavers since I joined 8 days ago... AH I hate this shit... sorry if this is in the wrong forum, I just figured it was pretty general
Eor my mouth hurt so bad for about 4 weeks I was sure that I had quit too late! My tongue hurt to touch anything. Went to the dentist 2 times and Dr. once both kept telling me that I was fine. I'd have to go back and see when it started but I'd say from day 20 to 50 my tongue was sore and mouth ached. What we have done to our bodies over the years we are lucky if we only have these minor irritations to go through.
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It's day 8 for me, about to be day 9 in 1.5 hours.... My mouth fucking hurts... Why? There are no sores or anything and the pain feels like its in the bones like right where my teeth should be sitting in them... Cause for concern or cause for relief? Idk... but I also know day 8 was a rough one. Definitely got hit hard with the cravings, and my mind always goes to this scary place of like "if I take one dip now ill be alright, it's only one hiccup" or "hey if I take a dip I don't have to tell anyone and can keep going" ... Ultimately I talk myself out of it because I can't lie to the guys in my quit group. They trust me, and I trust them. If either of us betray that the whole relationship will fall apart... plus we have had too many cavers since I joined 8 days ago... AH I hate this shit... sorry if this is in the wrong forum, I just figured it was pretty general
Eor my mouth hurt so bad for about 4 weeks I was sure that I had quit too late! My tongue hurt to touch anything. Went to the dentist 2 times and Dr. once both kept telling me that I was fine. I'd have to go back and see when it started but I'd say from day 20 to 50 my tongue was sore and mouth ached. What we have done to our bodies over the years we are lucky if we only have these minor irritations to go through.[/QUOTE]
Eor, I gave you my number in the chat room last week. USE IT!!!!
We are all in this together, when you start craving text us it works.
thanks woosel
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Oh I crave for day 8. As I sit here behind my desk I can't even imagine making it through my first day today. My Lord I never thought it it would be so hard. Wish me luck.
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Oh I crave for day 8. As I sit here behind my desk I can't even imagine making it through my first day today. My Lord I never thought it it would be so hard. Wish me luck.
There is no 'luck' here. There is no 'try'. We don't rely on 'hope'.
We fuckin quit. You either CHOOSE to Quit, or you do NOT choose to Quit.
And yes, Quit is a fucking noun around here. It is a living, breathing thing that we protect every day, ALL Day.
Get in to September 2012. Post your word. It's like looking me in the eye and shaking my hand and promising not to use nicotine in ANY form...for today.
We'll worry 'bout tomorrow, tomorrow.
The question is, are you IN or OUT?
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I haven't been yelled at like that since Basic Training. .......I love it. Hell yes Im in. Just having a really tuff go right now. Today is Day 1 of the rest of my life as far as Im concerned.
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I haven't been yelled at like that since Basic Training. .......I love it. Hell yes Im in. Just having a really tuff go right now. Today is Day 1 of the rest of my life as far as Im concerned.
Go to the Welcome Center. Also check your Inbox (1). If you're really fucked up, click on Live Chat.
You can do this. I'm proof.
-Nolaq Day 819
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I haven't been yelled at like that since Basic Training. .......I love it. Hell yes I'm in. Just having a really tuff go right now. Today is Day 1 of the rest of my life as far as I'm concerned.
Go to the Welcome Center. Also check your Inbox (1). If you're really fucked up, click on Live Chat.
You can do this. I'm proof.
-Nola Day 819
NOLAQ I think this one has balls, Its about time the past few newbies have been eunuchs
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It's day 8 for me, about to be day 9 in 1.5 hours.... My mouth fucking hurts... Why? There are no sores or anything and the pain feels like its in the bones like right where my teeth should be sitting in them... Cause for concern or cause for relief? Idk... but I also know day 8 was a rough one. Definitely got hit hard with the cravings, and my mind always goes to this scary place of like "if I take one dip now ill be alright, it's only one hiccup" or "hey if I take a dip I don't have to tell anyone and can keep going" ... Ultimately I talk myself out of it because I can't lie to the guys in my quit group. They trust me, and I trust them. If either of us betray that the whole relationship will fall apart... plus we have had too many cavers since I joined 8 days ago... AH I hate this shit... sorry if this is in the wrong forum, I just figured it was pretty general
Eor my mouth hurt so bad for about 4 weeks I was sure that I had quit too late! My tongue hurt to touch anything. Went to the dentist 2 times and Dr. once both kept telling me that I was fine. I'd have to go back and see when it started but I'd say from day 20 to 50 my tongue was sore and mouth ached. What we have done to our bodies over the years we are lucky if we only have these minor irritations to go through.
When you say mouth hurting and tongue sore, what exactly do you mean. I'm experiencing some of that but only in one place on my tongue. Thoughts? I'm on day 8 of my quit.
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It's day 8 for me, about to be day 9 in 1.5 hours.... My mouth fucking hurts... Why? There are no sores or anything and the pain feels like its in the bones like right where my teeth should be sitting in them... Cause for concern or cause for relief? Idk... but I also know day 8 was a rough one. Definitely got hit hard with the cravings, and my mind always goes to this scary place of like "if I take one dip now ill be alright, it's only one hiccup" or "hey if I take a dip I don't have to tell anyone and can keep going" ... Ultimately I talk myself out of it because I can't lie to the guys in my quit group. They trust me, and I trust them. If either of us betray that the whole relationship will fall apart... plus we have had too many cavers since I joined 8 days ago... AH I hate this shit... sorry if this is in the wrong forum, I just figured it was pretty general
Eor my mouth hurt so bad for about 4 weeks I was sure that I had quit too late! My tongue hurt to touch anything. Went to the dentist 2 times and Dr. once both kept telling me that I was fine. I'd have to go back and see when it started but I'd say from day 20 to 50 my tongue was sore and mouth ached. What we have done to our bodies over the years we are lucky if we only have these minor irritations to go through.
When you say mouth hurting and tongue sore, what exactly do you mean. I'm experiencing some of that but only in one place on my tongue. Thoughts? I'm on day 8 of my quit.
It was my whole fricking mouth. I walked around with my mouth open and my tongue out didnt want it to touch anything. It just vanished as quick as it came.
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Im glad to see that it's certain that I have balls. I most certainly do and I think anyone on this site that has made the commitment to be a quitter must have some sizable balls as well. Maybe just not as big as mine. LOL. Anyways, its great to be here and know that we all have help when we need it. Day 2 and going strong. This Bitch is the toughest Bitch around but her Fat Ugly Ass is going DOWN. FUCK YOU NIC BITCH.
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Im glad to see that it's certain that I have balls. I most certainly do and I think anyone on this site that has made the commitment to be a quitter must have some sizable balls as well. Maybe just not as big as mine. LOL. Anyways, its great to be here and know that we all have help when we need it. Day 2 and going strong. This Bitch is the toughest Bitch around but her Fat Ugly Ass is going DOWN. FUCK YOU NIC BITCH.
Great stuff!
Love the energy and excitement!!!!
Stay strong...you will need it!
Stay focused.....things will get confusing and focus and determination pull you thru!
Stay QUIT......need I say anymore???
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Got my mind made up......started when I was 15 and I'm turning 50 on the 19th of June.....So, the 18th will be my last day. This is it baby, no more having to run to 7-11 at 11 PM, no more having to find my can at 4 in the morning when I wake up to pee, no more sore lip. I've fuckin had it. wish me luck?
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Got my mind made up......started when I was 15 and I'm turning 50 on the 19th of June.....So, the 18th will be my last day. This is it baby, no more having to run to 7-11 at 11 PM, no more having to find my can at 4 in the morning when I wake up to pee, no more sore lip. I've fuckin had it. wish me luck?
The mookie blaylocks. I wonder who else gets it...
Welcome, sir. You don't need luck if you're quit. Just make the decision and be done.
Please read the W E L c O M E link you'll find above. It'll tell you why we post roll call and how to do it. Yell if any questions.
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Got my mind made up......started when I was 15 and I'm turning 50 on the 19th of June.....So, the 18th will be my last day. This is it baby, no more having to run to 7-11 at 11 PM, no more having to find my can at 4 in the morning when I wake up to pee, no more sore lip. I've fuckin had it. wish me luck?
The mookie blaylocks. I wonder who else gets it...
Welcome, sir. You don't need luck if you're quit. Just make the decision and be done.
Please read the W E L c O M E link you'll find above. It'll tell you why we post roll call and how to do it. Yell if any questions.
What's so special about the 18th that's it's worth losing the motivation you have right now and wasting another 5 years on the crap? Do it. Do it now. Next week won't be easier. Slowly cutting back over the next week won't either. It's time. Right now.
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Got my mind made up......started when I was 15 and I'm turning 50 on the 19th of June.....So, the 18th will be my last day. This is it baby, no more having to run to 7-11 at 11 PM, no more having to find my can at 4 in the morning when I wake up to pee, no more sore lip. I've fuckin had it. wish me luck?
The mookie blaylocks. I wonder who else gets it...
Welcome, sir. You don't need luck if you're quit. Just make the decision and be done.
Please read the W E L c O M E link you'll find above. It'll tell you why we post roll call and how to do it. Yell if any questions.
What's so special about the 18th that's it's worth losing the motivation you have right now and wasting another 5 years on the crap? Do it. Do it now. Next week won't be easier. Slowly cutting back over the next week won't either. It's time. Right now.
I skimmed your post, Mookie. Yeah, you gots to quit now. You'll already have the nic out of your system on your big 5-0 by quitting right now.
You're a slave. Just like us. Nothing gained by making future promises. Those aren't real. Dumping your nicotine and quitting right this second is real, no sheet, quit. Everything else gives the addict permission to continue feeding the beast.
Join us. Today.
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Got my mind made up......started when I was 15 and I'm turning 50 on the 19th of June.....So, the 18th will be my last day. This is it baby, no more having to run to 7-11 at 11 PM, no more having to find my can at 4 in the morning when I wake up to pee, no more sore lip. I've fuckin had it. wish me luck?
The mookie blaylocks. I wonder who else gets it...
Welcome, sir. You don't need luck if you're quit. Just make the decision and be done.
Please read the W E L c O M E link you'll find above. It'll tell you why we post roll call and how to do it. Yell if any questions.
What's so special about the 18th that's it's worth losing the motivation you have right now and wasting another 5 years on the crap? Do it. Do it now. Next week won't be easier. Slowly cutting back over the next week won't either. It's time. Right now.
I skimmed your post, Mookie. Yeah, you gots to quit now. You'll already have the nic out of your system on your big 5-0 by quitting right now.
You're a slave. Just like us. Nothing gained by making future promises. Those aren't real. Dumping your nicotine and quitting right this second is real, no sheet, quit. Everything else gives the addict permission to continue feeding the beast.
Join us. Today.
After 33 years of active addiction I know one thing:
Tomorrow never comes.
Quit TODAY.
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Got my mind made up......started when I was 15 and I'm turning 50 on the 19th of June.....So, the 18th will be my last day. This is it baby, no more having to run to 7-11 at 11 PM, no more having to find my can at 4 in the morning when I wake up to pee, no more sore lip. I've fuckin had it. wish me luck?
The mookie blaylocks. I wonder who else gets it...
Welcome, sir. You don't need luck if you're quit. Just make the decision and be done.
Please read the W E L c O M E link you'll find above. It'll tell you why we post roll call and how to do it. Yell if any questions.
What's so special about the 18th that's it's worth losing the motivation you have right now and wasting another 5 years on the crap? Do it. Do it now. Next week won't be easier. Slowly cutting back over the next week won't either. It's time. Right now.
I skimmed your post, Mookie. Yeah, you gots to quit now. You'll already have the nic out of your system on your big 5-0 by quitting right now.
You're a slave. Just like us. Nothing gained by making future promises. Those aren't real. Dumping your nicotine and quitting right this second is real, no sheet, quit. Everything else gives the addict permission to continue feeding the beast.
Join us. Today.
After 33 years of active addiction I know one thing:
Tomorrow never comes.
Quit TODAY.
Yep we haven't seen or heard of him since the 19th will come and go. We've all been there.
Newbies and those wanting to quit read this
Don't put it off the fire fades!
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Happy Father's Day you quittin fools !!
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Happy Father's Day you quittin fools !!
Thank you!
First dip free Fathers Day I can remember!!
Thank you KTC!!!
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Happy Fathers Day you bunch of Quitters. The first of many Clean Fathers Days to come.
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Thanks - You too...Just joined ten days in and am posting all over the place....
First father's Day clean for me too........
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New blog post: Save The Date – The National Smokeless Spit Tobacco Summit
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/06/save ... co-summit/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/06/save-the-date-the-national-smokeless-spit-tobacco-summit/)
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Got my mind made up......started when I was 15 and I'm turning 50 on the 19th of June.....So, the 18th will be my last day. This is it baby, no more having to run to 7-11 at 11 PM, no more having to find my can at 4 in the morning when I wake up to pee, no more sore lip. I've fuckin had it. wish me luck?
The mookie blaylocks. I wonder who else gets it...
Welcome, sir. You don't need luck if you're quit. Just make the decision and be done.
Please read the W E L c O M E link you'll find above. It'll tell you why we post roll call and how to do it. Yell if any questions.
What's so special about the 18th that's it's worth losing the motivation you have right now and wasting another 5 years on the crap? Do it. Do it now. Next week won't be easier. Slowly cutting back over the next week won't either. It's time. Right now.
I skimmed your post, Mookie. Yeah, you gots to quit now. You'll already have the nic out of your system on your big 5-0 by quitting right now.
You're a slave. Just like us. Nothing gained by making future promises. Those aren't real. Dumping your nicotine and quitting right this second is real, no sheet, quit. Everything else gives the addict permission to continue feeding the beast.
Join us. Today.
After 33 years of active addiction I know one thing:
Tomorrow never comes.
Quit TODAY.
Yep we haven't seen or heard of him since the 19th will come and go. We've all been there.
Newbies and those wanting to quit read this
Don't put it off the fire fades!
The 19th is here....is Mookey?
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Got my mind made up......started when I was 15 and I'm turning 50 on the 19th of June.....So, the 18th will be my last day. This is it baby, no more having to run to 7-11 at 11 PM, no more having to find my can at 4 in the morning when I wake up to pee, no more sore lip. I've fuckin had it. wish me luck?
The mookie blaylocks. I wonder who else gets it...
Welcome, sir. You don't need luck if you're quit. Just make the decision and be done.
Please read the W E L c O M E link you'll find above. It'll tell you why we post roll call and how to do it. Yell if any questions.
What's so special about the 18th that's it's worth losing the motivation you have right now and wasting another 5 years on the crap? Do it. Do it now. Next week won't be easier. Slowly cutting back over the next week won't either. It's time. Right now.
I skimmed your post, Mookie. Yeah, you gots to quit now. You'll already have the nic out of your system on your big 5-0 by quitting right now.
You're a slave. Just like us. Nothing gained by making future promises. Those aren't real. Dumping your nicotine and quitting right this second is real, no sheet, quit. Everything else gives the addict permission to continue feeding the beast.
Join us. Today.
After 33 years of active addiction I know one thing:
Tomorrow never comes.
Quit TODAY.
Yep we haven't seen or heard of him since the 19th will come and go. We've all been there.
Newbies and those wanting to quit read this
Don't put it off the fire fades!
The 19th is here....is Mookey?
Mookie is here, check the roll.
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Ok, 69 days free and I don't even think about the crap anymore, ever. What I do crave, the fake stuff. I was a wintergreen dipper. I changed brands over the years to get a cheaper price but always stayed with wintergreen. Having quit, I never could find a wintergreen herbal snuff that I liked much. Smokey Mountain came the closest but still didn't satisfy. However, I discovered if I mixed it with Hooch spitfire ( 2:1 ratio) that it gave it that burn that it was missing and I really like it. Which brings me to my concern. I'm worried I might like it a little too much.
I'm debating whether or not to order some more spitfire as I'm down to my last can. I figured I would ask some you more seasoned quitters your advice on this. Part of the reason I quit tobacco was for the health of my gums and teeth and doing the fake stuff is certainly not helping them any. That Smoky Mountian is loaded with sweetness. But I do not want to jeapordize my quit either. Would it be wise at this stage to try and quit the fake stuff?
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Ok, 69 days free and I don't even think about the crap anymore, ever. What I do crave, the fake stuff. I was a wintergreen dipper. I changed brands over the years to get a cheaper price but always stayed with wintergreen. Having quit, I never could find a wintergreen herbal snuff that I liked much. Smokey Mountain came the closest but still didn't satisfy. However, I discovered if I mixed it with Hooch spitfire ( 2:1 ratio) that it gave it that burn that it was missing and I really like it. Which brings me to my concern. I'm worried I might like it a little too much.
I'm debating whether or not to order some more spitfire as I'm down to my last can. I figured I would ask some you more seasoned quitters your advice on this. Part of the reason I quit tobacco was for the health of my gums and teeth and doing the fake stuff is certainly not helping them any. That Smoky Mountian is loaded with sweetness. But I do not want to jeapordize my quit either. Would it be wise at this stage to try and quit the fake stuff?
Why have you never posted roll? You joined in April supposedly have 69 days quit but only have 2 posts? You should be in the July HOF group. Read the WELCOME CENTER up top to understand how things work around here and get to posting roll.
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Ok, 69 days free and I don't even think about the crap anymore, ever. What I do crave, the fake stuff. I was a wintergreen dipper. I changed brands over the years to get a cheaper price but always stayed with wintergreen. Having quit, I never could find a wintergreen herbal snuff that I liked much. Smokey Mountain came the closest but still didn't satisfy. However, I discovered if I mixed it with Hooch spitfire ( 2:1 ratio) that it gave it that burn that it was missing and I really like it. Which brings me to my concern. I'm worried I might like it a little too much.
I'm debating whether or not to order some more spitfire as I'm down to my last can. I figured I would ask some you more seasoned quitters your advice on this. Part of the reason I quit tobacco was for the health of my gums and teeth and doing the fake stuff is certainly not helping them any. That Smoky Mountian is loaded with sweetness. But I do not want to jeapordize my quit either. Would it be wise at this stage to try and quit the fake stuff?
Why have you never posted roll? You joined in April supposedly have 69 days quit but only have 2 posts? You should be in the July HOF group. Read the WELCOME CENTER up top to understand how things work around here and get to posting roll.
It says at the top of this page, "Questions, Comments, or Concerns Welcomed." I guess they forgot to add the "only if you post roll" part. As a matter of fact, I have read a great deal on this site and have yet to find a rule that states you can only ask questions or get questions answered if you are posting roll. I'm not saying no such rule exists, just that I haven't seen one.
You know, this site can be immensly helpful to someone quitting tobacco. That can't be overstated. But on these forums some of you really know how to behave like asses.
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Ok, 69 days free and I don't even think about the crap anymore, ever. What I do crave, the fake stuff. I was a wintergreen dipper. I changed brands over the years to get a cheaper price but always stayed with wintergreen. Having quit, I never could find a wintergreen herbal snuff that I liked much. Smokey Mountain came the closest but still didn't satisfy. However, I discovered if I mixed it with Hooch spitfire ( 2:1 ratio) that it gave it that burn that it was missing and I really like it. Which brings me to my concern. I'm worried I might like it a little too much.
I'm debating whether or not to order some more spitfire as I'm down to my last can. I figured I would ask some you more seasoned quitters your advice on this. Part of the reason I quit tobacco was for the health of my gums and teeth and doing the fake stuff is certainly not helping them any. That Smoky Mountian is loaded with sweetness. But I do not want to jeapordize my quit either. Would it be wise at this stage to try and quit the fake stuff?
Why have you never posted roll? You joined in April supposedly have 69 days quit but only have 2 posts? You should be in the July HOF group. Read the WELCOME CENTER up top to understand how things work around here and get to posting roll.
It says at the top of this page, "Questions, Comments, or Concerns Welcomed." I guess they forgot to add the "only if you post roll" part. As a matter of fact, I have read a great deal on this site and have yet to find a rule that states you can only ask questions or get questions answered if you are posting roll. I'm not saying no such rule exists, just that I haven't seen one.
You know, this site can be immensly helpful to someone quitting tobacco. That can't be overstated. But on these forums some of you really know how to behave like asses.
John, Kubrick simply told you to post roll. You'll get a lot more support that way. No need to get your panties all in a wad.
To answer your question, do what you need to do to make sure you don't put any nicotine in your body. If the fake helps, keep using it. Brush your teeth, gums, and cheeks a lot. According to others, one day you will just stop. 69 days is definitely not very long. My strong craves and "funks" finally subsided around day 220. Hope that helps and yes feel free to ask questions on here without posting roll - but if you want a sure fire way to stay quit, post roll, keep your word, repeat the next day.
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Ok, 69 days free and I don't even think about the crap anymore, ever. What I do crave, the fake stuff. I was a wintergreen dipper. I changed brands over the years to get a cheaper price but always stayed with wintergreen. Having quit, I never could find a wintergreen herbal snuff that I liked much. Smokey Mountain came the closest but still didn't satisfy. However, I discovered if I mixed it with Hooch spitfire ( 2:1 ratio) that it gave it that burn that it was missing and I really like it. Which brings me to my concern. I'm worried I might like it a little too much.
I'm debating whether or not to order some more spitfire as I'm down to my last can. I figured I would ask some you more seasoned quitters your advice on this. Part of the reason I quit tobacco was for the health of my gums and teeth and doing the fake stuff is certainly not helping them any. That Smoky Mountian is loaded with sweetness. But I do not want to jeapordize my quit either. Would it be wise at this stage to try and quit the fake stuff?
Why have you never posted roll? You joined in April supposedly have 69 days quit but only have 2 posts? You should be in the July HOF group. Read the WELCOME CENTER up top to understand how things work around here and get to posting roll.
It says at the top of this page, "Questions, Comments, or Concerns Welcomed." I guess they forgot to add the "only if you post roll" part. As a matter of fact, I have read a great deal on this site and have yet to find a rule that states you can only ask questions or get questions answered if you are posting roll. I'm not saying no such rule exists, just that I haven't seen one.
You know, this site can be immensly helpful to someone quitting tobacco. That can't be overstated. But on these forums some of you really know how to behave like asses.
John,
I'm not trying to be an asshole, I'm just inviting you to use the tools provided on this site to their fullest potential.
Can people quit on their own? I'm sure there are those that can. For the rest of us mere mortals, having the support network of quitters available 24/7 is very important.
When we post roll to our group we make the promise to every quitter on this site that we won't use nicotine that day. Can you say nicotine is off the table today? Who can you reach out to if you start craving or some life altering event happens that weakens your resolve? The relationships built among the folks in each quit group as well as everyone else here keep me from using nicotine, cause I tell you what, around day 70 until now, I've been craving like day 1. If it wasn't for these fine gentlemen and ladies that I interact with on a daily basis, I might be back to putting that crap back into my lip.
Read some of the stories from retreads that come back to the site. Almost 100% of them say it's because they stopped posting roll and left the site.
Think about it and join us if you wish. We're a bunch of nice fellas in July for the most part (Just watch out for Cmark, he's a real piece of work)
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Ok, 69 days free and I don't even think about the crap anymore, ever. What I do crave, the fake stuff. I was a wintergreen dipper. I changed brands over the years to get a cheaper price but always stayed with wintergreen. Having quit, I never could find a wintergreen herbal snuff that I liked much. Smokey Mountain came the closest but still didn't satisfy. However, I discovered if I mixed it with Hooch spitfire ( 2:1 ratio) that it gave it that burn that it was missing and I really like it. Which brings me to my concern. I'm worried I might like it a little too much.
I'm debating whether or not to order some more spitfire as I'm down to my last can. I figured I would ask some you more seasoned quitters your advice on this. Part of the reason I quit tobacco was for the health of my gums and teeth and doing the fake stuff is certainly not helping them any. That Smoky Mountian is loaded with sweetness. But I do not want to jeapordize my quit either. Would it be wise at this stage to try and quit the fake stuff?
Why have you never posted roll? You joined in April supposedly have 69 days quit but only have 2 posts? You should be in the July HOF group. Read the WELCOME CENTER up top to understand how things work around here and get to posting roll.
It says at the top of this page, "Questions, Comments, or Concerns Welcomed." I guess they forgot to add the "only if you post roll" part. As a matter of fact, I have read a great deal on this site and have yet to find a rule that states you can only ask questions or get questions answered if you are posting roll. I'm not saying no such rule exists, just that I haven't seen one.
You know, this site can be immensly helpful to someone quitting tobacco. That can't be overstated. But on these forums some of you really know how to behave like asses.
John,
I'm not trying to be an asshole, I'm just inviting you to use the tools provided on this site to their fullest potential.
Can people quit on their own? I'm sure there are those that can. For the rest of us mere mortals, having the support network of quitters available 24/7 is very important.
When we post roll to our group we make the promise to every quitter on this site that we won't use nicotine that day. Can you say nicotine is off the table today? Who can you reach out to if you start craving or some life altering event happens that weakens your resolve? The relationships built among the folks in each quit group as well as everyone else here keep me from using nicotine, cause I tell you what, around day 70 until now, I've been craving like day 1. If it wasn't for these fine gentlemen and ladies that I interact with on a daily basis, I might be back to putting that crap back into my lip.
Read some of the stories from retreads that come back to the site. Almost 100% of them say it's because they stopped posting roll and left the site.
Think about it and join us if you wish. We're a bunch of nice fellas in July for the most part (Just watch out for Cmark, he's a real piece of work)
I thought for sure you were gonna warn him about me Kubrick.
John I can tell you the failure rate of going it alone is high. I've been failing for 38+ yrs. today I quit day 88 my quit is stronger everyday because I make that promise. I can fall back on Kubrick or a number of other quitters everyday and they can come to me in their time of need. You don't have that, it is earned. To come here and ask for help from a group that hasn't ever heard your name is ridiculous. Sharing is a two way street.
I suggest you ask your personal contacts your question. Personally I smell troll!
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Ok, 69 days free and I don't even think about the crap anymore, ever. What I do crave, the fake stuff. I was a wintergreen dipper. I changed brands over the years to get a cheaper price but always stayed with wintergreen. Having quit, I never could find a wintergreen herbal snuff that I liked much. Smokey Mountain came the closest but still didn't satisfy. However, I discovered if I mixed it with Hooch spitfire ( 2:1 ratio) that it gave it that burn that it was missing and I really like it. Which brings me to my concern. I'm worried I might like it a little too much.
I'm debating whether or not to order some more spitfire as I'm down to my last can. I figured I would ask some you more seasoned quitters your advice on this. Part of the reason I quit tobacco was for the health of my gums and teeth and doing the fake stuff is certainly not helping them any. That Smoky Mountian is loaded with sweetness. But I do not want to jeapordize my quit either. Would it be wise at this stage to try and quit the fake stuff?
Why have you never posted roll? You joined in April supposedly have 69 days quit but only have 2 posts? You should be in the July HOF group. Read the WELCOME CENTER up top to understand how things work around here and get to posting roll.
It says at the top of this page, "Questions, Comments, or Concerns Welcomed." I guess they forgot to add the "only if you post roll" part. As a matter of fact, I have read a great deal on this site and have yet to find a rule that states you can only ask questions or get questions answered if you are posting roll. I'm not saying no such rule exists, just that I haven't seen one.
You know, this site can be immensly helpful to someone quitting tobacco. That can't be overstated. But on these forums some of you really know how to behave like asses.
John, Kubrick simply told you to post roll. You'll get a lot more support that way. No need to get your panties all in a wad.
To answer your question, do what you need to do to make sure you don't put any nicotine in your body. If the fake helps, keep using it. Brush your teeth, gums, and cheeks a lot. According to others, one day you will just stop. 69 days is definitely not very long. My strong craves and "funks" finally subsided around day 220. Hope that helps and yes feel free to ask questions on here without posting roll - but if you want a sure fire way to stay quit, post roll, keep your word, repeat the next day.
Thanks for the input! I appreciate it!
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Ok, 69 days free and I don't even think about the crap anymore, ever. What I do crave, the fake stuff. I was a wintergreen dipper. I changed brands over the years to get a cheaper price but always stayed with wintergreen. Having quit, I never could find a wintergreen herbal snuff that I liked much. Smokey Mountain came the closest but still didn't satisfy. However, I discovered if I mixed it with Hooch spitfire ( 2:1 ratio) that it gave it that burn that it was missing and I really like it. Which brings me to my concern. I'm worried I might like it a little too much.
I'm debating whether or not to order some more spitfire as I'm down to my last can. I figured I would ask some you more seasoned quitters your advice on this. Part of the reason I quit tobacco was for the health of my gums and teeth and doing the fake stuff is certainly not helping them any. That Smoky Mountian is loaded with sweetness. But I do not want to jeapordize my quit either. Would it be wise at this stage to try and quit the fake stuff?
Why have you never posted roll? You joined in April supposedly have 69 days quit but only have 2 posts? You should be in the July HOF group. Read the WELCOME CENTER up top to understand how things work around here and get to posting roll.
It says at the top of this page, "Questions, Comments, or Concerns Welcomed." I guess they forgot to add the "only if you post roll" part. As a matter of fact, I have read a great deal on this site and have yet to find a rule that states you can only ask questions or get questions answered if you are posting roll. I'm not saying no such rule exists, just that I haven't seen one.
You know, this site can be immensly helpful to someone quitting tobacco. That can't be overstated. But on these forums some of you really know how to behave like asses.
John,
I'm not trying to be an asshole, I'm just inviting you to use the tools provided on this site to their fullest potential.
Can people quit on their own? I'm sure there are those that can. For the rest of us mere mortals, having the support network of quitters available 24/7 is very important.
When we post roll to our group we make the promise to every quitter on this site that we won't use nicotine that day. Can you say nicotine is off the table today? Who can you reach out to if you start craving or some life altering event happens that weakens your resolve? The relationships built among the folks in each quit group as well as everyone else here keep me from using nicotine, cause I tell you what, around day 70 until now, I've been craving like day 1. If it wasn't for these fine gentlemen and ladies that I interact with on a daily basis, I might be back to putting that crap back into my lip.
Read some of the stories from retreads that come back to the site. Almost 100% of them say it's because they stopped posting roll and left the site.
Think about it and join us if you wish. We're a bunch of nice fellas in July for the most part (Just watch out for Cmark, he's a real piece of work)
Well, I can appreciate that. It was just this "supposedly" business that got under my skin a little, as if I'm not really quit if I don't go post roll. To answer your question...To be honest I don't really understand the whole concept. Yes, I've read the welcome page and all a number of times. When I look at the quit groups forums all I see is a list of people I have know clue who they are that's copied over and over. Don't quite comprehend how that's helpful.
Also, I don't come here daily. I have come here off and on looking for answers and information through the forums or the main site. That's what has helped me more than anything, knowing what to expect. It wouldn't make sense to post roll if I don't plan to come here daily.
Thanks for the suggestion, but I prefer to not to.
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Ok, 69 days free and I don't even think about the crap anymore, ever. What I do crave, the fake stuff. I was a wintergreen dipper. I changed brands over the years to get a cheaper price but always stayed with wintergreen. Having quit, I never could find a wintergreen herbal snuff that I liked much. Smokey Mountain came the closest but still didn't satisfy. However, I discovered if I mixed it with Hooch spitfire ( 2:1 ratio) that it gave it that burn that it was missing and I really like it. Which brings me to my concern. I'm worried I might like it a little too much.
I'm debating whether or not to order some more spitfire as I'm down to my last can. I figured I would ask some you more seasoned quitters your advice on this. Part of the reason I quit tobacco was for the health of my gums and teeth and doing the fake stuff is certainly not helping them any. That Smoky Mountian is loaded with sweetness. But I do not want to jeapordize my quit either. Would it be wise at this stage to try and quit the fake stuff?
Why have you never posted roll? You joined in April supposedly have 69 days quit but only have 2 posts? You should be in the July HOF group. Read the WELCOME CENTER up top to understand how things work around here and get to posting roll.
It says at the top of this page, "Questions, Comments, or Concerns Welcomed." I guess they forgot to add the "only if you post roll" part. As a matter of fact, I have read a great deal on this site and have yet to find a rule that states you can only ask questions or get questions answered if you are posting roll. I'm not saying no such rule exists, just that I haven't seen one.
You know, this site can be immensly helpful to someone quitting tobacco. That can't be overstated. But on these forums some of you really know how to behave like asses.
John,
I'm not trying to be an asshole, I'm just inviting you to use the tools provided on this site to their fullest potential.
Can people quit on their own? I'm sure there are those that can. For the rest of us mere mortals, having the support network of quitters available 24/7 is very important.
When we post roll to our group we make the promise to every quitter on this site that we won't use nicotine that day. Can you say nicotine is off the table today? Who can you reach out to if you start craving or some life altering event happens that weakens your resolve? The relationships built among the folks in each quit group as well as everyone else here keep me from using nicotine, cause I tell you what, around day 70 until now, I've been craving like day 1. If it wasn't for these fine gentlemen and ladies that I interact with on a daily basis, I might be back to putting that crap back into my lip.
Read some of the stories from retreads that come back to the site. Almost 100% of them say it's because they stopped posting roll and left the site.
Think about it and join us if you wish. We're a bunch of nice fellas in July for the most part (Just watch out for Cmark, he's a real piece of work)
I thought for sure you were gonna warn him about me Kubrick.
John I can tell you the failure rate of going it alone is high. I've been failing for 38+ yrs. today I quit day 88 my quit is stronger everyday because I make that promise. I can fall back on Kubrick or a number of other quitters everyday and they can come to me in their time of need. You don't have that, it is earned. To come here and ask for help from a group that hasn't ever heard your name is ridiculous. Sharing is a two way street.
I suggest you ask your personal contacts your question. Personally I smell troll!
So, it's ridiculous to come here and ask for help?
This is what i was talking about. Why even bother saying anything at all? No need in getting all smartass. You can easily just keep those kinds of comments to yourself, as they are helpful to no one.
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Ok, 69 days free and I don't even think about the crap anymore, ever. What I do crave, the fake stuff. I was a wintergreen dipper. I changed brands over the years to get a cheaper price but always stayed with wintergreen. Having quit, I never could find a wintergreen herbal snuff that I liked much. Smokey Mountain came the closest but still didn't satisfy. However, I discovered if I mixed it with Hooch spitfire ( 2:1 ratio) that it gave it that burn that it was missing and I really like it. Which brings me to my concern. I'm worried I might like it a little too much.
I'm debating whether or not to order some more spitfire as I'm down to my last can. I figured I would ask some you more seasoned quitters your advice on this. Part of the reason I quit tobacco was for the health of my gums and teeth and doing the fake stuff is certainly not helping them any. That Smoky Mountian is loaded with sweetness. But I do not want to jeapordize my quit either. Would it be wise at this stage to try and quit the fake stuff?
Why have you never posted roll? You joined in April supposedly have 69 days quit but only have 2 posts? You should be in the July HOF group. Read the WELCOME CENTER up top to understand how things work around here and get to posting roll.
It says at the top of this page, "Questions, Comments, or Concerns Welcomed." I guess they forgot to add the "only if you post roll" part. As a matter of fact, I have read a great deal on this site and have yet to find a rule that states you can only ask questions or get questions answered if you are posting roll. I'm not saying no such rule exists, just that I haven't seen one.
You know, this site can be immensly helpful to someone quitting tobacco. That can't be overstated. But on these forums some of you really know how to behave like asses.
John,
I'm not trying to be an asshole, I'm just inviting you to use the tools provided on this site to their fullest potential.
Can people quit on their own? I'm sure there are those that can. For the rest of us mere mortals, having the support network of quitters available 24/7 is very important.
When we post roll to our group we make the promise to every quitter on this site that we won't use nicotine that day. Can you say nicotine is off the table today? Who can you reach out to if you start craving or some life altering event happens that weakens your resolve? The relationships built among the folks in each quit group as well as everyone else here keep me from using nicotine, cause I tell you what, around day 70 until now, I've been craving like day 1. If it wasn't for these fine gentlemen and ladies that I interact with on a daily basis, I might be back to putting that crap back into my lip.
Read some of the stories from retreads that come back to the site. Almost 100% of them say it's because they stopped posting roll and left the site.
Think about it and join us if you wish. We're a bunch of nice fellas in July for the most part (Just watch out for Cmark, he's a real piece of work)
I thought for sure you were gonna warn him about me Kubrick.
John I can tell you the failure rate of going it alone is high. I've been failing for 38+ yrs. today I quit day 88 my quit is stronger everyday because I make that promise. I can fall back on Kubrick or a number of other quitters everyday and they can come to me in their time of need. You don't have that, it is earned. To come here and ask for help from a group that hasn't ever heard your name is ridiculous. Sharing is a two way street.
I suggest you ask your personal contacts your question. Personally I smell troll!
So, it's ridiculous to come here and ask for help?
This is what i was talking about. Why even bother saying anything at all? No need in getting all smartass. You can easily just keep those kinds of comments to yourself, as they are helpful to no one.
John, this site is not for everyone, and it appears you figured that out early on by not participating in it.
As for the fake stuff, I use it more now than I did the first 60 days or so. Everyone is different, some guys never use it, some use for a while and some use it for hundreds of days before just stopping one day. It doesn't contain nicotine so in my opinion, use it as long as you want. I do. Unlike some people, it does not make me want the real stuff more. It curbs cravings and keeps the oral fixation in check.
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Ok, 69 days free and I don't even think about the crap anymore, ever. What I do crave, the fake stuff. I was a wintergreen dipper. I changed brands over the years to get a cheaper price but always stayed with wintergreen. Having quit, I never could find a wintergreen herbal snuff that I liked much. Smokey Mountain came the closest but still didn't satisfy. However, I discovered if I mixed it with Hooch spitfire ( 2:1 ratio) that it gave it that burn that it was missing and I really like it. Which brings me to my concern. I'm worried I might like it a little too much.
I'm debating whether or not to order some more spitfire as I'm down to my last can. I figured I would ask some you more seasoned quitters your advice on this. Part of the reason I quit tobacco was for the health of my gums and teeth and doing the fake stuff is certainly not helping them any. That Smoky Mountian is loaded with sweetness. But I do not want to jeapordize my quit either. Would it be wise at this stage to try and quit the fake stuff?
Why have you never posted roll? You joined in April supposedly have 69 days quit but only have 2 posts? You should be in the July HOF group. Read the WELCOME CENTER up top to understand how things work around here and get to posting roll.
It says at the top of this page, "Questions, Comments, or Concerns Welcomed." I guess they forgot to add the "only if you post roll" part. As a matter of fact, I have read a great deal on this site and have yet to find a rule that states you can only ask questions or get questions answered if you are posting roll. I'm not saying no such rule exists, just that I haven't seen one.
You know, this site can be immensly helpful to someone quitting tobacco. That can't be overstated. But on these forums some of you really know how to behave like asses.
John,
I'm not trying to be an asshole, I'm just inviting you to use the tools provided on this site to their fullest potential.
Can people quit on their own? I'm sure there are those that can. For the rest of us mere mortals, having the support network of quitters available 24/7 is very important.
When we post roll to our group we make the promise to every quitter on this site that we won't use nicotine that day. Can you say nicotine is off the table today? Who can you reach out to if you start craving or some life altering event happens that weakens your resolve? The relationships built among the folks in each quit group as well as everyone else here keep me from using nicotine, cause I tell you what, around day 70 until now, I've been craving like day 1. If it wasn't for these fine gentlemen and ladies that I interact with on a daily basis, I might be back to putting that crap back into my lip.
Read some of the stories from retreads that come back to the site. Almost 100% of them say it's because they stopped posting roll and left the site.
Think about it and join us if you wish. We're a bunch of nice fellas in July for the most part (Just watch out for Cmark, he's a real piece of work)
I thought for sure you were gonna warn him about me Kubrick.
John I can tell you the failure rate of going it alone is high. I've been failing for 38+ yrs. today I quit day 88 my quit is stronger everyday because I make that promise. I can fall back on Kubrick or a number of other quitters everyday and they can come to me in their time of need. You don't have that, it is earned. To come here and ask for help from a group that hasn't ever heard your name is ridiculous. Sharing is a two way street.
I suggest you ask your personal contacts your question. Personally I smell troll!
So, it's ridiculous to come here and ask for help?
This is what i was talking about. Why even bother saying anything at all? No need in getting all smartass. You can easily just keep those kinds of comments to yourself, as they are helpful to no one.
John, this site is not for everyone, and it appears you figured that out early on by not participating in it.
As for the fake stuff, I use it more now than I did the first 60 days or so. Everyone is different, some guys never use it, some use for a while and some use it for hundreds of days before just stopping one day. It doesn't contain nicotine so in my opinion, use it as long as you want. I do. Unlike some people, it does not make me want the real stuff more. It curbs cravings and keeps the oral fixation in check.
I've long been of the opinion that I'd rather chew a can a day of the fake stuff for the rest of my days than ever have another dip of Kodiak.
That said, these days, the only time I have one is when I do a review for the site.
Use it... it's a tool. Eventually, you won't reach for it any more.
chewie
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Ok, 69 days free and I don't even think about the crap anymore, ever. What I do crave, the fake stuff. I was a wintergreen dipper. I changed brands over the years to get a cheaper price but always stayed with wintergreen. Having quit, I never could find a wintergreen herbal snuff that I liked much. Smokey Mountain came the closest but still didn't satisfy. However, I discovered if I mixed it with Hooch spitfire ( 2:1 ratio) that it gave it that burn that it was missing and I really like it. Which brings me to my concern. I'm worried I might like it a little too much.
I'm debating whether or not to order some more spitfire as I'm down to my last can. I figured I would ask some you more seasoned quitters your advice on this. Part of the reason I quit tobacco was for the health of my gums and teeth and doing the fake stuff is certainly not helping them any. That Smoky Mountian is loaded with sweetness. But I do not want to jeapordize my quit either. Would it be wise at this stage to try and quit the fake stuff?
Why have you never posted roll? You joined in April supposedly have 69 days quit but only have 2 posts? You should be in the July HOF group. Read the WELCOME CENTER up top to understand how things work around here and get to posting roll.
It says at the top of this page, "Questions, Comments, or Concerns Welcomed." I guess they forgot to add the "only if you post roll" part. As a matter of fact, I have read a great deal on this site and have yet to find a rule that states you can only ask questions or get questions answered if you are posting roll. I'm not saying no such rule exists, just that I haven't seen one.
You know, this site can be immensly helpful to someone quitting tobacco. That can't be overstated. But on these forums some of you really know how to behave like asses.
John,
I'm not trying to be an asshole, I'm just inviting you to use the tools provided on this site to their fullest potential.
Can people quit on their own? I'm sure there are those that can. For the rest of us mere mortals, having the support network of quitters available 24/7 is very important.
When we post roll to our group we make the promise to every quitter on this site that we won't use nicotine that day. Can you say nicotine is off the table today? Who can you reach out to if you start craving or some life altering event happens that weakens your resolve? The relationships built among the folks in each quit group as well as everyone else here keep me from using nicotine, cause I tell you what, around day 70 until now, I've been craving like day 1. If it wasn't for these fine gentlemen and ladies that I interact with on a daily basis, I might be back to putting that crap back into my lip.
Read some of the stories from retreads that come back to the site. Almost 100% of them say it's because they stopped posting roll and left the site.
Think about it and join us if you wish. We're a bunch of nice fellas in July for the most part (Just watch out for Cmark, he's a real piece of work)
I thought for sure you were gonna warn him about me Kubrick.
John I can tell you the failure rate of going it alone is high. I've been failing for 38+ yrs. today I quit day 88 my quit is stronger everyday because I make that promise. I can fall back on Kubrick or a number of other quitters everyday and they can come to me in their time of need. You don't have that, it is earned. To come here and ask for help from a group that hasn't ever heard your name is ridiculous. Sharing is a two way street.
I suggest you ask your personal contacts your question. Personally I smell troll!
So, it's ridiculous to come here and ask for help?
This is what i was talking about. Why even bother saying anything at all? No need in getting all smartass. You can easily just keep those kinds of comments to yourself, as they are helpful to no one.
John, this site is not for everyone, and it appears you figured that out early on by not participating in it.
As for the fake stuff, I use it more now than I did the first 60 days or so. Everyone is different, some guys never use it, some use for a while and some use it for hundreds of days before just stopping one day. It doesn't contain nicotine so in my opinion, use it as long as you want. I do. Unlike some people, it does not make me want the real stuff more. It curbs cravings and keeps the oral fixation in check.
I've long been of the opinion that I'd rather chew a can a day of the fake stuff for the rest of my days than ever have another dip of Kodiak.
That said, these days, the only time I have one is when I do a review for the site.
Use it... it's a tool. Eventually, you won't reach for it any more.
chewie
We are all different. I'm the opposite from Kubrick I always used it the 1st 60 days accually more than i dipped cope now it is an annoyance. But I do keep it around for those really bad ass craves. I've been dipping fake maybe once every 2 - 3 days.
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Ok, 69 days free and I don't even think about the crap anymore, ever. What I do crave, the fake stuff. I was a wintergreen dipper. I changed brands over the years to get a cheaper price but always stayed with wintergreen. Having quit, I never could find a wintergreen herbal snuff that I liked much. Smokey Mountain came the closest but still didn't satisfy. However, I discovered if I mixed it with Hooch spitfire ( 2:1 ratio) that it gave it that burn that it was missing and I really like it. Which brings me to my concern. I'm worried I might like it a little too much.
I'm debating whether or not to order some more spitfire as I'm down to my last can. I figured I would ask some you more seasoned quitters your advice on this. Part of the reason I quit tobacco was for the health of my gums and teeth and doing the fake stuff is certainly not helping them any. That Smoky Mountian is loaded with sweetness. But I do not want to jeapordize my quit either. Would it be wise at this stage to try and quit the fake stuff?
Why have you never posted roll? You joined in April supposedly have 69 days quit but only have 2 posts? You should be in the July HOF group. Read the WELCOME CENTER up top to understand how things work around here and get to posting roll.
It says at the top of this page, "Questions, Comments, or Concerns Welcomed." I guess they forgot to add the "only if you post roll" part. As a matter of fact, I have read a great deal on this site and have yet to find a rule that states you can only ask questions or get questions answered if you are posting roll. I'm not saying no such rule exists, just that I haven't seen one.
You know, this site can be immensly helpful to someone quitting tobacco. That can't be overstated. But on these forums some of you really know how to behave like asses.
John,
I'm not trying to be an asshole, I'm just inviting you to use the tools provided on this site to their fullest potential.
Can people quit on their own? I'm sure there are those that can. For the rest of us mere mortals, having the support network of quitters available 24/7 is very important.
When we post roll to our group we make the promise to every quitter on this site that we won't use nicotine that day. Can you say nicotine is off the table today? Who can you reach out to if you start craving or some life altering event happens that weakens your resolve? The relationships built among the folks in each quit group as well as everyone else here keep me from using nicotine, cause I tell you what, around day 70 until now, I've been craving like day 1. If it wasn't for these fine gentlemen and ladies that I interact with on a daily basis, I might be back to putting that crap back into my lip.
Read some of the stories from retreads that come back to the site. Almost 100% of them say it's because they stopped posting roll and left the site.
Think about it and join us if you wish. We're a bunch of nice fellas in July for the most part (Just watch out for Cmark, he's a real piece of work)
I thought for sure you were gonna warn him about me Kubrick.
John I can tell you the failure rate of going it alone is high. I've been failing for 38+ yrs. today I quit day 88 my quit is stronger everyday because I make that promise. I can fall back on Kubrick or a number of other quitters everyday and they can come to me in their time of need. You don't have that, it is earned. To come here and ask for help from a group that hasn't ever heard your name is ridiculous. Sharing is a two way street.
I suggest you ask your personal contacts your question. Personally I smell troll!
So, it's ridiculous to come here and ask for help?
This is what i was talking about. Why even bother saying anything at all? No need in getting all smartass. You can easily just keep those kinds of comments to yourself, as they are helpful to no one.
John, this site is not for everyone, and it appears you figured that out early on by not participating in it.
As for the fake stuff, I use it more now than I did the first 60 days or so. Everyone is different, some guys never use it, some use for a while and some use it for hundreds of days before just stopping one day. It doesn't contain nicotine so in my opinion, use it as long as you want. I do. Unlike some people, it does not make me want the real stuff more. It curbs cravings and keeps the oral fixation in check.
I've long been of the opinion that I'd rather chew a can a day of the fake stuff for the rest of my days than ever have another dip of Kodiak.
That said, these days, the only time I have one is when I do a review for the site.
Use it... it's a tool. Eventually, you won't reach for it any more.
chewie
We are all different. I'm the opposite from Kubrick I always used it the 1st 60 days accually more than i dipped cope now it is an annoyance. But I do keep it around for those really bad ass craves. I've been dipping fake maybe once every 2 - 3 days.
I am also of the camp that says use whatever it takes to keep nicotine out of your mouth. The fake definitely made it easier to deal with craves.
Congrats on 69 days free. A word of caution though: The nic bitch (your ADDICTION) is most dangerous when you let your guard down. Posting roll, and helping other quitters keeps me vigilant. It is one of the many benefits of using ALL of the tools this site provides.
Stay Quit,
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Smokeless Reduces Smoking in Small Clinical Trial
http://rodutobaccotruth.blogspot.com/20 ... small.html (http://rodutobaccotruth.blogspot.com/2012/06/smokeless-reduces-smoking-in-small.html)
Thoughts?
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Smokeless Reduces Smoking in Small Clinical Trial
http://rodutobaccotruth.blogspot.com/20 ... small.html (http://rodutobaccotruth.blogspot.com/2012/06/smokeless-reduces-smoking-in-small.html)
Thoughts?
Unbelievable 'bang head'
Read through the bull shit and this study shows that replacing nicotine with nicotine helps nicotine addicts continue their nicotine addiction.
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Smokeless Reduces Smoking in Small Clinical Trial
http://rodutobaccotruth.blogspot.com/20 ... small.html (http://rodutobaccotruth.blogspot.com/2012/06/smokeless-reduces-smoking-in-small.html)
Thoughts?
Unbelievable 'bang head'
Read through the bull shit and this study shows that replacing nicotine with nicotine helps nicotine addicts continue their nicotine addiction.
“smokers who chose the [Camel] snus product with higher nicotine levels tended to report greater craving and withdrawal relief, more satisfaction, smoking less cigarettes and achieving greater short-term abstinence.”
So the study concludes that Camel nicotine can help your nicotine withdrawals?
Guess what? Eating makes my food withdrawals cease until I get hungry again.
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Smokeless Reduces Smoking in Small Clinical Trial
http://rodutobaccotruth.blogspot.com/20 ... small.html (http://rodutobaccotruth.blogspot.com/2012/06/smokeless-reduces-smoking-in-small.html)
Thoughts?
Unbelievable 'bang head'
Read through the bull shit and this study shows that replacing nicotine with nicotine helps nicotine addicts continue their nicotine addiction.
“smokers who chose the [Camel] snus product with higher nicotine levels tended to report greater craving and withdrawal relief, more satisfaction, smoking less cigarettes and achieving greater short-term abstinence.”
So the study concludes that Camel nicotine can help your nicotine withdrawals?
Guess what? Eating makes my food withdrawals cease until I get hungry again.
Isn't it amazing that these dumbasses don't understand that it is a drug addiction.
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Smokeless Reduces Smoking in Small Clinical Trial
http://rodutobaccotruth.blogspot.com/20 ... small.html (http://rodutobaccotruth.blogspot.com/2012/06/smokeless-reduces-smoking-in-small.html)
Thoughts?
Unbelievable 'bang head'
Read through the bull shit and this study shows that replacing nicotine with nicotine helps nicotine addicts continue their nicotine addiction.
“smokers who chose the [Camel] snus product with higher nicotine levels tended to report greater craving and withdrawal relief, more satisfaction, smoking less cigarettes and achieving greater short-term abstinence.”
So the study concludes that Camel nicotine can help your nicotine withdrawals?
Guess what? Eating makes my food withdrawals cease until I get hungry again.
Isn't it amazing that these dumbasses don't understand that it is a drug addiction.
For the past 15 years I have been involved in research and policy development regarding tobacco harm reduction (THR). THR advocates acknowledge that there are millions of smokers who are unable or unwilling to quit with conventional cessation methods involving tobacco and nicotine abstinence, and we encourage them to use cigarette substitutes that are far safer.
I left a comment on that person's blog who I quoted part of his biography above. I wonder if he'll approve my comment.
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Smokeless Reduces Smoking in Small Clinical Trial
http://rodutobaccotruth.blogspot.com/20 ... small.html (http://rodutobaccotruth.blogspot.com/2012/06/smokeless-reduces-smoking-in-small.html)
Thoughts?
Unbelievable 'bang head'
Read through the bull shit and this study shows that replacing nicotine with nicotine helps nicotine addicts continue their nicotine addiction.
“smokers who chose the [Camel] snus product with higher nicotine levels tended to report greater craving and withdrawal relief, more satisfaction, smoking less cigarettes and achieving greater short-term abstinence.”
So the study concludes that Camel nicotine can help your nicotine withdrawals?
Guess what? Eating makes my food withdrawals cease until I get hungry again.
Isn't it amazing that these dumbasses don't understand that it is a drug addiction.
For the past 15 years I have been involved in research and policy development regarding tobacco harm reduction (THR). THR advocates acknowledge that there are millions of smokers who are unable or unwilling to quit with conventional cessation methods involving tobacco and nicotine abstinence, and we encourage them to use cigarette substitutes that are far safer.
I left a comment on that person's blog who I quoted part of his biography above. I wonder if he'll approve my comment.
Was your quote?: "that cig substitute still has 28 known carcinogens - you fucking dumbass!"
Then he probably won't post it...
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Smokeless Reduces Smoking in Small Clinical Trial
http://rodutobaccotruth.blogspot.com/20 ... small.html (http://rodutobaccotruth.blogspot.com/2012/06/smokeless-reduces-smoking-in-small.html)
Thoughts?
Unbelievable 'bang head'
Read through the bull shit and this study shows that replacing nicotine with nicotine helps nicotine addicts continue their nicotine addiction.
“smokers who chose the [Camel] snus product with higher nicotine levels tended to report greater craving and withdrawal relief, more satisfaction, smoking less cigarettes and achieving greater short-term abstinence.”
So the study concludes that Camel nicotine can help your nicotine withdrawals?
Guess what? Eating makes my food withdrawals cease until I get hungry again.
Isn't it amazing that these dumbasses don't understand that it is a drug addiction.
For the past 15 years I have been involved in research and policy development regarding tobacco harm reduction (THR). THR advocates acknowledge that there are millions of smokers who are unable or unwilling to quit with conventional cessation methods involving tobacco and nicotine abstinence, and we encourage them to use cigarette substitutes that are far safer.
I left a comment on that person's blog who I quoted part of his biography above. I wonder if he'll approve my comment.
Was your quote?: "that cig substitute still has 28 known carcinogens - you fucking dumbass!"
Then he probably won't post it...
He says he's a professor of medicine, so I assume that would make him a dcotor? I think we found the one doctor that would say to keep dipping 'Crazy'
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Smokeless Reduces Smoking in Small Clinical Trial
http://rodutobaccotruth.blogspot.com/20 ... small.html (http://rodutobaccotruth.blogspot.com/2012/06/smokeless-reduces-smoking-in-small.html)
Thoughts?
Unbelievable 'bang head'
Read through the bull shit and this study shows that replacing nicotine with nicotine helps nicotine addicts continue their nicotine addiction.
“smokers who chose the [Camel] snus product with higher nicotine levels tended to report greater craving and withdrawal relief, more satisfaction, smoking less cigarettes and achieving greater short-term abstinence.”
So the study concludes that Camel nicotine can help your nicotine withdrawals?
Guess what? Eating makes my food withdrawals cease until I get hungry again.
Isn't it amazing that these dumbasses don't understand that it is a drug addiction.
For the past 15 years I have been involved in research and policy development regarding tobacco harm reduction (THR). THR advocates acknowledge that there are millions of smokers who are unable or unwilling to quit with conventional cessation methods involving tobacco and nicotine abstinence, and we encourage them to use cigarette substitutes that are far safer.
I left a comment on that person's blog who I quoted part of his biography above. I wonder if he'll approve my comment.
Was your quote?: "that cig substitute still has 28 known carcinogens - you fucking dumbass!"
Then he probably won't post it...
He says he's a professor of medicine, so I assume that would make him a dcotor? I think we found the one doctor that would say to keep dipping 'Crazy'
My research is supported by unrestricted grants from tobacco manufacturers to the University of Louisville and by the Kentucky Research Challenge Trust Fund.
Well of course it is sweetheart. So that's why this guy claims smokless is "safer" than smoking. What a tool
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Smokeless Reduces Smoking in Small Clinical Trial
http://rodutobaccotruth.blogspot.com/20 ... small.html (http://rodutobaccotruth.blogspot.com/2012/06/smokeless-reduces-smoking-in-small.html)
Thoughts?
Unbelievable 'bang head'
Read through the bull shit and this study shows that replacing nicotine with nicotine helps nicotine addicts continue their nicotine addiction.
“smokers who chose the [Camel] snus product with higher nicotine levels tended to report greater craving and withdrawal relief, more satisfaction, smoking less cigarettes and achieving greater short-term abstinence.”
So the study concludes that Camel nicotine can help your nicotine withdrawals?
Guess what? Eating makes my food withdrawals cease until I get hungry again.
Isn't it amazing that these dumbasses don't understand that it is a drug addiction.
For the past 15 years I have been involved in research and policy development regarding tobacco harm reduction (THR). THR advocates acknowledge that there are millions of smokers who are unable or unwilling to quit with conventional cessation methods involving tobacco and nicotine abstinence, and we encourage them to use cigarette substitutes that are far safer.
I left a comment on that person's blog who I quoted part of his biography above. I wonder if he'll approve my comment.
Was your quote?: "that cig substitute still has 28 known carcinogens - you fucking dumbass!"
Then he probably won't post it...
He says he's a professor of medicine, so I assume that would make him a dcotor? I think we found the one doctor that would say to keep dipping 'Crazy'
My research is supported by unrestricted grants from tobacco manufacturers to the University of Louisville and by the Kentucky Research Challenge Trust Fund.
Well of course it is sweetheart. So that's why this guy claims smokless is "safer" than smoking. What a tool
Is this guy partners with Americannurses Dr. That told her to keep dippin for her health? Dumb asses everywhere!
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Smokeless Reduces Smoking in Small Clinical Trial
http://rodutobaccotruth.blogspot.com/20 ... small.html (http://rodutobaccotruth.blogspot.com/2012/06/smokeless-reduces-smoking-in-small.html)
Thoughts?
Unbelievable 'bang head'
Read through the bull shit and this study shows that replacing nicotine with nicotine helps nicotine addicts continue their nicotine addiction.
“smokers who chose the [Camel] snus product with higher nicotine levels tended to report greater craving and withdrawal relief, more satisfaction, smoking less cigarettes and achieving greater short-term abstinence.”
So the study concludes that Camel nicotine can help your nicotine withdrawals?
Guess what? Eating makes my food withdrawals cease until I get hungry again.
Isn't it amazing that these dumbasses don't understand that it is a drug addiction.
For the past 15 years I have been involved in research and policy development regarding tobacco harm reduction (THR). THR advocates acknowledge that there are millions of smokers who are unable or unwilling to quit with conventional cessation methods involving tobacco and nicotine abstinence, and we encourage them to use cigarette substitutes that are far safer.
I left a comment on that person's blog who I quoted part of his biography above. I wonder if he'll approve my comment.
Was your quote?: "that cig substitute still has 28 known carcinogens - you fucking dumbass!"
Then he probably won't post it...
He says he's a professor of medicine, so I assume that would make him a dcotor? I think we found the one doctor that would say to keep dipping 'Crazy'
My research is supported by unrestricted grants from tobacco manufacturers to the University of Louisville and by the Kentucky Research Challenge Trust Fund.
Well of course it is sweetheart. So that's why this guy claims smokless is "safer" than smoking. What a tool
Is this guy partners with Americannurses Dr. That told her to keep dippin for her health? Dumb asses everywhere!
Not to change the subject (Which is a good one) but i noticed something new in the stores down here in Texas. This is going to make it harder for people to quit. One of the reasons I quit was the waste of money. Yeah, not quite as good a reason as my health but that was to come later after after I got the nic outta my system and started reading the lit here.
I was at the register purchasing myself some smokey mountain and noticed something on the tobacco rack. The product i used to use has now released their new marketing ploy. They are now selling their garbage in a bucket with a refillable tin for you to carry around. The price made it less than a $1 per can.
I found myself smuttering that this was fucking insane. So this is how they are going to get around cost and keep the cost down, thus eliminating the money issue alot of people use to quit.
I was just wanting to run this by everyone and see what your opinions are. It seems the opposition is going to do what ever they can to keep people hooked.
MSymonds- Day 25, I quit with everyone here and thank all of you for the support...
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Smokeless Reduces Smoking in Small Clinical Trial
http://rodutobaccotruth.blogspot.com/20 ... small.html (http://rodutobaccotruth.blogspot.com/2012/06/smokeless-reduces-smoking-in-small.html)
Thoughts?
Unbelievable 'bang head'
Read through the bull shit and this study shows that replacing nicotine with nicotine helps nicotine addicts continue their nicotine addiction.
“smokers who chose the [Camel] snus product with higher nicotine levels tended to report greater craving and withdrawal relief, more satisfaction, smoking less cigarettes and achieving greater short-term abstinence.”
So the study concludes that Camel nicotine can help your nicotine withdrawals?
Guess what? Eating makes my food withdrawals cease until I get hungry again.
Isn't it amazing that these dumbasses don't understand that it is a drug addiction.
For the past 15 years I have been involved in research and policy development regarding tobacco harm reduction (THR). THR advocates acknowledge that there are millions of smokers who are unable or unwilling to quit with conventional cessation methods involving tobacco and nicotine abstinence, and we encourage them to use cigarette substitutes that are far safer.
I left a comment on that person's blog who I quoted part of his biography above. I wonder if he'll approve my comment.
Was your quote?: "that cig substitute still has 28 known carcinogens - you fucking dumbass!"
Then he probably won't post it...
He says he's a professor of medicine, so I assume that would make him a dcotor? I think we found the one doctor that would say to keep dipping 'Crazy'
My research is supported by unrestricted grants from tobacco manufacturers to the University of Louisville and by the Kentucky Research Challenge Trust Fund.
Well of course it is sweetheart. So that's why this guy claims smokless is "safer" than smoking. What a tool
Is this guy partners with Americannurses Dr. That told her to keep dippin for her health? Dumb asses everywhere!
Not to change the subject (Which is a good one) but i noticed something new in the stores down here in Texas. This is going to make it harder for people to quit. One of the reasons I quit was the waste of money. Yeah, not quite as good a reason as my health but that was to come later after after I got the nic outta my system and started reading the lit here.
I was at the register purchasing myself some smokey mountain and noticed something on the tobacco rack. The product i used to use has now released their new marketing ploy. They are now selling their garbage in a bucket with a refillable tin for you to carry around. The price made it less than a $1 per can.
I found myself smuttering that this was fucking insane. So this is how they are going to get around cost and keep the cost down, thus eliminating the money issue alot of people use to quit.
I was just wanting to run this by everyone and see what your opinions are. It seems the opposition is going to do what ever they can to keep people hooked.
MSymonds- Day 25, I quit with everyone here and thank all of you for the support...
Please comment the hell out of this guy. I just sent him this:
Brad,
I would suggest your test subjects visit these URLs before undergoing your study:
http://www.outdoortexan.com/mycancer.htm (http://www.outdoortexan.com/mycancer.htm)
http://whyquit.com/whyquit/A_Gruen.html (http://whyquit.com/whyquit/A_Gruen.html)
http://www.tobacco-facts.info/oral_cancer.htm (http://www.tobacco-facts.info/oral_cancer.htm)
before you hook them on something that pushes massive amounts of nicotine into their system through the lip. In effect, you are doing the same as introducing a heroin addict to the needle after they have been snorting it. I am 48 days quit from smokeless after 25 years of hundreds of attempts to quit. When your test subjects come back to you asking why you pushed them to a nasty addiction more powerful than smoking and heroin, pray for them, and send them to
http://killthecan.org/ (http://killthecan.org/)
where they might have a fighting chance to survive.
I know you won't approve this comment to your blog, because it contradicts your research, but I hope you read it and visit the links, if you are man enough.
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Please comment the hell out of this guy. I just sent him this:
Brad,
I would suggest your test subjects visit these URLs before undergoing your study:
http://www.outdoortexan.com/mycancer.htm (http://www.outdoortexan.com/mycancer.htm)
http://whyquit.com/whyquit/A_Gruen.html (http://whyquit.com/whyquit/A_Gruen.html)
http://www.tobacco-facts.info/oral_cancer.htm (http://www.tobacco-facts.info/oral_cancer.htm)
before you hook them on something that pushes massive amounts of nicotine into their system through the lip. In effect, you are doing the same as introducing a heroin addict to the needle after they have been snorting it. I am 48 days quit from smokeless after 25 years of hundreds of attempts to quit. When your test subjects come back to you asking why you pushed them to a nasty addiction more powerful than smoking and heroin, pray for them, and send them to
http://killthecan.org/ (http://killthecan.org/)
where they might have a fighting chance to survive.
I know you won't approve this comment to your blog, because it contradicts your research, but I hope you read it and visit the links, if you are man enough.
Very nice ! Sadly he probably will not look at any of the information you sent, but a fantastic post !!
I am heading over to send him something myself.
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Thanks for all of the helpful info fellas!
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Nice header, Chewie.
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Nice header, Chewie.
Thank you sir... least I could do.
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New blog post: New Gold Hall Of Fame Coins Now In Stock!
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/07/new- ... -in-stock/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/07/new-gold-hall-of-fame-coins-now-in-stock/)
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If anyone cares...
I post roll first thing every morning in April 11.
If you see my post there on a given day, I am quit. Same with frazzled, now, csu, parputt, Los, Ty, gig, Denney, Kd, cane, firejim, etc.
Post roll.
Keep your word.
Repeat.
If you fail to post roll daily or are generally a lying ass dog with zero integrity, you will fail.
That is all.
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Brothers (and Sisters),
I was just hoping to get a little help from a quit bro with a little patience. I am by no means a computer genius, but I'm also not an idiot (I think). Anyhow, I can't seem to figure out how to add a reply when there are quote boxes within quote boxes within boxes, etc.....I can't seem to get the last quote in a box. Is there a tutorial or some help somebody can give me???
MookieB
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Brothers (and Sisters),
I was just hoping to get a little help from a quit bro with a little patience. I am by no means a computer genius, but I'm also not an idiot (I think). Anyhow, I can't seem to figure out how to add a reply when there are quote boxes within quote boxes within boxes, etc.....I can't seem to get the last quote in a box. Is there a tutorial or some help somebody can give me???
MookieB
Don't cut and paste when quoting. Just add your 2 cents in the top box.
Practice here: Test Thread (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=345)
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New blog post: Coming Soon - Smokey Mountain Reviews
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/07/comi ... n-reviews/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/07/coming-soon-smokey-mountain-reviews/)
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Today is support the October 2006 CCU- 6 YEAR QUIT PARTY!!! (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=3) day. Sponsored by the May 2011 3-ballers (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=4289). Please stop in and post roll with a few of our quit forefathers today.
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Today is support the October 2006 CCU- 6 YEAR QUIT PARTY!!! (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=3) day. Sponsored by the May 2011 3-ballers (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=4289). Please stop in and post roll with a few of our quit forefathers today.
This was pretty epic guys... thanks.
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New blog post: Nip RAW and Jake's Mint Chew Cranberry Come To Market
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/07/nip- ... to-market/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/07/nip-raw-and-jakes-mint-chew-cranberry-come-to-market/)
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Today is support the October 2006 CCU- 6 YEAR QUIT PARTY!!! (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=3) day. Sponsored by the May 2011 3-ballers (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=4289). Please stop in and post roll with a few of our quit forefathers today.
This was pretty epic guys... thanks.
LOOT dunno who is responsible for this flash mob but it is a thing of beauty to behold.
Great stuff. Inspiring.
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New blog post: Jake's Mint Chew - Cranberry
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/07/jake ... cranberry/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/07/jakes-mint-chew-cranberry/)
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Smokeless Reduces Smoking in Small Clinical Trial
http://rodutobaccotruth.blogspot.com/20 ... small.html (http://rodutobaccotruth.blogspot.com/2012/06/smokeless-reduces-smoking-in-small.html)
Thoughts?
Unbelievable 'bang head'
Read through the bull shit and this study shows that replacing nicotine with nicotine helps nicotine addicts continue their nicotine addiction.
“smokers who chose the [Camel] snus product with higher nicotine levels tended to report greater craving and withdrawal relief, more satisfaction, smoking less cigarettes and achieving greater short-term abstinence.”
So the study concludes that Camel nicotine can help your nicotine withdrawals?
Guess what? Eating makes my food withdrawals cease until I get hungry again.
Isn't it amazing that these dumbasses don't understand that it is a drug addiction.
For the past 15 years I have been involved in research and policy development regarding tobacco harm reduction (THR). THR advocates acknowledge that there are millions of smokers who are unable or unwilling to quit with conventional cessation methods involving tobacco and nicotine abstinence, and we encourage them to use cigarette substitutes that are far safer.
I left a comment on that person's blog who I quoted part of his biography above. I wonder if he'll approve my comment.
Was your quote?: "that cig substitute still has 28 known carcinogens - you fucking dumbass!"
Then he probably won't post it...
He says he's a professor of medicine, so I assume that would make him a dcotor? I think we found the one doctor that would say to keep dipping 'Crazy'
My research is supported by unrestricted grants from tobacco manufacturers to the University of Louisville and by the Kentucky Research Challenge Trust Fund.
Well of course it is sweetheart. So that's why this guy claims smokless is "safer" than smoking. What a tool
Is this guy partners with Americannurses Dr. That told her to keep dippin for her health? Dumb asses everywhere!
Not to change the subject (Which is a good one) but i noticed something new in the stores down here in Texas. This is going to make it harder for people to quit. One of the reasons I quit was the waste of money. Yeah, not quite as good a reason as my health but that was to come later after after I got the nic outta my system and started reading the lit here.
I was at the register purchasing myself some smokey mountain and noticed something on the tobacco rack. The product i used to use has now released their new marketing ploy. They are now selling their garbage in a bucket with a refillable tin for you to carry around. The price made it less than a $1 per can.
I found myself smuttering that this was fucking insane. So this is how they are going to get around cost and keep the cost down, thus eliminating the money issue alot of people use to quit.
I was just wanting to run this by everyone and see what your opinions are. It seems the opposition is going to do what ever they can to keep people hooked.
MSymonds- Day 25, I quit with everyone here and thank all of you for the support...
Please comment the hell out of this guy. I just sent him this:
Brad,
I would suggest your test subjects visit these URLs before undergoing your study:
http://www.outdoortexan.com/mycancer.htm (http://www.outdoortexan.com/mycancer.htm)
http://whyquit.com/whyquit/A_Gruen.html (http://whyquit.com/whyquit/A_Gruen.html)
http://www.tobacco-facts.info/oral_cancer.htm (http://www.tobacco-facts.info/oral_cancer.htm)
before you hook them on something that pushes massive amounts of nicotine into their system through the lip. In effect, you are doing the same as introducing a heroin addict to the needle after they have been snorting it. I am 48 days quit from smokeless after 25 years of hundreds of attempts to quit. When your test subjects come back to you asking why you pushed them to a nasty addiction more powerful than smoking and heroin, pray for them, and send them to
http://killthecan.org/ (http://killthecan.org/)
where they might have a fighting chance to survive.
I know you won't approve this comment to your blog, because it contradicts your research, but I hope you read it and visit the links, if you are man enough.
From his 'about me' section:
My research is supported by unrestricted grants from tobacco manufacturers to the University of Louisville and by the Kentucky Research Challenge Trust Fund. View my complete profile
He's just a whore for UST...Professor of Death at Univ of Louisville....I wonder how he reconciles his conscience? Cognitive dissonance is a hell of a thing.
501 days nicotine free! Killthecan rocks! Come join us!
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Has anyone else found that after 5 or so days, you feel like you're physically, emotionally and psychologically beaten to a pulp? I felt like that today. I have come way too far to even consider giving up, but I need to know if this goes away. Is there a way to counter this?
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Has anyone else found that after 5 or so days, you feel like you're physically, emotionally and psychologically beaten to a pulp? I felt like that today. I have come way too far to even consider giving up, but I need to know if this goes away. Is there a way to counter this?
Folks may say tons of water, real cranberry juice, exercise, etc. Some or all may work to some extent, but the truth is that it's going to suck no matter what. Things get a lot better. Just buckle down until they do. It's different for everyone. One day at a time and you'll come out feeling great. Promise.
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Has anyone else found that after 5 or so days, you feel like you're physically, emotionally and psychologically beaten to a pulp? I felt like that today. I have come way too far to even consider giving up, but I need to know if this goes away. Is there a way to counter this?
Folks may say tons of water, real cranberry juice, exercise, etc. Some or all may work to some extent, but the truth is that it's going to suck no matter what. Things get a lot better. Just buckle down until they do. It's different for everyone. One day at a time and you'll come out feeling great. Promise.
Exactly. Hence the saying - "embrace the suck".....Because it does suck. But the reward is so worth it.
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Has anyone else found that after 5 or so days, you feel like you're physically, emotionally and psychologically beaten to a pulp? I felt like that today. I have come way too far to even consider giving up, but I need to know if this goes away. Is there a way to counter this?
Folks may say tons of water, real cranberry juice, exercise, etc. Some or all may work to some extent, but the truth is that it's going to suck no matter what. Things get a lot better. Just buckle down until they do. It's different for everyone. One day at a time and you'll come out feeling great. Promise.
Exactly. Hence the saying - "embrace the suck".....Because it does suck. But the reward is so worth it.
The freedom of being quit is worth every struggle. Keep pushing forward!
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Has anyone else found that after 5 or so days, you feel like you're physically, emotionally and psychologically beaten to a pulp? I felt like that today. I have come way too far to even consider giving up, but I need to know if this goes away. Is there a way to counter this?
Folks may say tons of water, real cranberry juice, exercise, etc. Some or all may work to some extent, but the truth is that it's going to suck no matter what. Things get a lot better. Just buckle down until they do. It's different for everyone. One day at a time and you'll come out feeling great. Promise.
Exactly. Hence the saying - "embrace the suck".....Because it does suck. But the reward is so worth it.
The freedom of being quit is worth every struggle. Keep pushing forward!
In addition to all of that, don't forget to man up! Stare it down and don't blink. Look in the mirror. Be tough. Be a bad mf'er. Craving some? FUCK THAT - beat it down. Feeling down? FUCK THAT - your life is better without tobacco not worse. Feeling foggy? FUCK THAT - get some excercise. Whatever problems you encounter from the quit you have the power to eliminate them. You are a baddass quitter. Not everyone can say that. Embrace the quit. Own it. When it rears up and shows its teeth, smash those teeth in with your will and your mental toughness. You are steel and iron and sharp edges. You are quit.
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OK, so it sucks. I am really sorry to all the admins/mods that I hurt, sorry for stating my opinion. I think everyone needs to take a chill pill. Do I want to join you again - not really - I donated another $500 just to keep this going.
sorry it turned bad.
Very confused by this post, but you sir are a rock star...
THANK YOU!!!
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Has anyone else found that after 5 or so days, you feel like you're physically, emotionally and psychologically beaten to a pulp? I felt like that today. I have come way too far to even consider giving up, but I need to know if this goes away. Is there a way to counter this?
Folks may say tons of water, real cranberry juice, exercise, etc. Some or all may work to some extent, but the truth is that it's going to suck no matter what. Things get a lot better. Just buckle down until they do. It's different for everyone. One day at a time and you'll come out feeling great. Promise.
Exactly. Hence the saying - "embrace the suck".....Because it does suck. But the reward is so worth it.
The freedom of being quit is worth every struggle. Keep pushing forward!
In addition to all of that, don't forget to man up! Stare it down and don't blink. Look in the mirror. Be tough. Be a bad mf'er. Craving some? FUCK THAT - beat it down. Feeling down? FUCK THAT - your life is better without tobacco not worse. Feeling foggy? FUCK THAT - get some excercise. Whatever problems you encounter from the quit you have the power to eliminate them. You are a baddass quitter. Not everyone can say that. Embrace the quit. Own it. When it rears up and shows its teeth, smash those teeth in with your will and your mental toughness. You are steel and iron and sharp edges. You are quit.
At that point in your quit, forever is impossible. Today, however, is possible. Make it today, then get up tomorrow and repeat. You can do this.
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Monday morning check
Favrite pair of drawers on (the salmon ones without the holes) check
Posted Roll Check
Quit.....every dam day.
it is really just that easy.....good day to be in control
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Monday morning check
Favrite pair of drawers on (the salmon ones without the holes) check
Posted Roll Check
Quit.....every dam day.
it is really just that easy.....good day to be in control
Nothing better than daily control over nicotine.
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Monday morning check
Favrite pair of drawers on (the salmon ones without the holes)Â check
Posted Roll Check
Quit.....every dam day.
it is really just that easy.....good day to be in control
Nothing better than daily control over nicotine.
Today is THE day to quit... Join the quit revolution!
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Monday morning check
Favrite pair of drawers on (the salmon ones without the holes)Â check
Posted Roll  Check
Quit.....every dam day.
it is really just that easy.....good day to be in control
Nothing better than daily control over nicotine.
Today is THE day to quit... Join the quit revolution!
I am in...
Roll Posted... 998 today.
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Monday morning check
Favrite pair of drawers on (the salmon ones without the holes)Â check
Posted Roll  Check
Quit.....every dam day.
it is really just that easy.....good day to be in control
Nothing better than daily control over nicotine.
Today is THE day to quit... Join the quit revolution!
I am in...
Roll Posted... 998 today.
i like to wear my salmon colored drawers backwards
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Monday morning check
Favrite pair of drawers on (the salmon ones without the holes)Â check
Posted Roll  Check
Quit.....every dam day.
it is really just that easy.....good day to be in control
Nothing better than daily control over nicotine.
Today is THE day to quit... Join the quit revolution!
I am in...
Roll Posted... 998 today.
i like to wear my salmon colored drawers backwards
Freedom on a Monday.
Only thing better may be Freedom onn a Friday.
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Monday morning check
Favrite pair of drawers on (the salmon ones without the holes)Â check
Posted Roll  Check
Quit.....every dam day.
it is really just that easy.....good day to be in control
Nothing better than daily control over nicotine.
Today is THE day to quit... Join the quit revolution!
I am in...
Roll Posted... 998 today.
i like to wear my salmon colored drawers backwards
Just like tarpon's panties, this site has easy access, welcome to your quit. The freedom is great.
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Monday morning check
Favrite pair of drawers on (the salmon ones without the holes)Â check
Posted Roll  Check
Quit.....every dam day.
it is really just that easy.....good day to be in control
Nothing better than daily control over nicotine.
Today is THE day to quit... Join the quit revolution!
I am in...
Roll Posted... 998 today.
Wow. Not much longer till you bid adieu to triple digits, sir.
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Monday morning check
Favrite pair of drawers on (the salmon ones without the holes)Â check
Posted Roll  Check
Quit.....every dam day.
it is really just that easy.....good day to be in control
Nothing better than daily control over nicotine.
Today is THE day to quit... Join the quit revolution!
I am in...
Roll Posted... 998 today.
Wow. Not much longer till you bid adieu to triple digits, sir.
aside from nicotine free, my favorite part of the day is hearing about mules drawers.
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You Can Do This
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You Can Do This
We can help.
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Toosdays are most excellent days to quit.
I do believe i'll have another heaping helping
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Toosdays are most excellent days to quit.
I do believe i'll have another heaping helping
Pass the quit, Please!!
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Toosdays are most excellent days to quit.
I do believe i'll have another heaping helping
Pass the quit, Please!!
I will have another helping.
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Toosdays are most excellent days to quit.
I do believe i'll have another heaping helping
Pass the quit, Please!!
I will have another helping.
I will join in that also
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Toosdays are most excellent days to quit.
I do believe i'll have another heaping helping
Pass the quit, Please!!
I will have another helping.
I will join in that also
I'll have what he's having.
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Toosdays are most excellent days to quit.
I do believe i'll have another heaping helping
Pass the quit, Please!!
I will have another helping.
I will join in that also
I'll have what he's having.
Can I have some with gravey and biscuits ;)
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Toosdays are most excellent days to quit.
I do believe i'll have another heaping helping
Pass the quit, Please!!
I will have another helping.
I will join in that also
I'll have what he's having.
Can I have some with gravey and biscuits ;)
Count me in, I'll buy.
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Toosdays are most excellent days to quit.
I do believe i'll have another heaping helping
Pass the quit, Please!!
I will have another helping.
I will join in that also
I'll have what he's having.
Can I have some with gravey and biscuits ;)
Count me in, I'll buy.
You can never get pulled over for having too much Quit.
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I'm bumping this thread from the member input needed, ask an expert forum:
Is there an acronym topic? I see so many and I am assuming there is a list already, haven't found it yet.
Not that I'm aware of. What sort of acronyms are you referring to? I'm happy to put it together.
IMHO QLF at KTC
LMAO LOL
:blink:
I put this together on my personal blog a while back...
http://www.406northlane.com/blog/2011/0 ... se-of-lol/ (http://www.406northlane.com/blog/2011/03/the-overuse-of-lol/)
If you're looking for something more KTC specific, I'd have to work on that. (or perhaps someone could put it together on http://www.Quit4Today.com (http://www.Quit4Today.com) ?)
That is funny Billy I was just preparing a post that we could add to that would help some of the newbies out. Lets see if it gets going. I was thinking of Adding some of the favorites and letting us make up some of our own and putting a funny twist to it that we could add some of our own names for the acronym like:
ACRONYMS
NIC--- Nicotine the Insidious Carcinogen
CAVES--- a sad Case of Addictions Vengeance Enlisting you back into Slavery
QLF---- Quit Like Fuck (Coach Steve QLF (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6349))
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I'm bumping this thread from the member input needed, ask an expert forum:
Is there an acronym topic? I see so many and I am assuming there is a list already, haven't found it yet.
Not that I'm aware of. What sort of acronyms are you referring to? I'm happy to put it together.
IMHO QLF at KTC
LMAO LOL
:blink:
I put this together on my personal blog a while back...
http://www.406northlane.com/blog/2011/0 ... se-of-lol/ (http://www.406northlane.com/blog/2011/03/the-overuse-of-lol/)
If you're looking for something more KTC specific, I'd have to work on that. (or perhaps someone could put it together on http://www.Quit4Today.com (http://www.Quit4Today.com) ?)
That is funny Billy I was just preparing a post that we could add to that would help some of the newbies out. Lets see if it gets going. I was thinking of Adding some of the favorites and letting us make up some of our own and putting a funny twist to it that we could add some of our own names for the acronym like:
ACRONYMS
NIC--- Nicotine the Insidious Carcinogen
CAVES--- a sad Case of Addictions Vengeance Enlisting you back into Slavery
QLF---- Quit Like Fuck (Coach Steve QLF (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6349))
Technically, QLF and NIC are not acronyms. _
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I'm bumping this thread from the member input needed, ask an expert forum:
Is there an acronym topic? I see so many and I am assuming there is a list already, haven't found it yet.
Not that I'm aware of. What sort of acronyms are you referring to? I'm happy to put it together.
IMHO QLF at KTC
LMAO LOL
:blink:
I put this together on my personal blog a while back...
http://www.406northlane.com/blog/2011/0 ... se-of-lol/ (http://www.406northlane.com/blog/2011/03/the-overuse-of-lol/)
If you're looking for something more KTC specific, I'd have to work on that. (or perhaps someone could put it together on http://www.Quit4Today.com (http://www.Quit4Today.com) ?)
That is funny Billy I was just preparing a post that we could add to that would help some of the newbies out. Lets see if it gets going. I was thinking of Adding some of the favorites and letting us make up some of our own and putting a funny twist to it that we could add some of our own names for the acronym like:
ACRONYMS
NIC--- Nicotine the Insidious Carcinogen
CAVES--- a sad Case of Addictions Vengeance Enlisting you back into Slavery
QLF---- Quit Like Fuck (Coach Steve QLF (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6349))
Technically, QLF and NIC are not acronyms. _
WTF?
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Just saw a pregnant woman walking down the street with a lit cig.
'bang head'
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I'm bumping this thread from the member input needed, ask an expert forum:
Is there an acronym topic? I see so many and I am assuming there is a list already, haven't found it yet.
Not that I'm aware of. What sort of acronyms are you referring to? I'm happy to put it together.
IMHO QLF at KTC
LMAO LOL
:blink:
I put this together on my personal blog a while back...
http://www.406northlane.com/blog/2011/0 ... se-of-lol/ (http://www.406northlane.com/blog/2011/03/the-overuse-of-lol/)
If you're looking for something more KTC specific, I'd have to work on that. (or perhaps someone could put it together on http://www.Quit4Today.com (http://www.Quit4Today.com) ?)
That is funny Billy I was just preparing a post that we could add to that would help some of the newbies out. Lets see if it gets going. I was thinking of Adding some of the favorites and letting us make up some of our own and putting a funny twist to it that we could add some of our own names for the acronym like:
ACRONYMS
NIC--- Nicotine the Insidious Carcinogen
CAVES--- a sad Case of Addictions Vengeance Enlisting you back into Slavery
QLF---- Quit Like Fuck (Coach Steve QLF (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6349))
Technically, QLF and NIC are not acronyms. _
Is FUNOLAQ?
'crackup'
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I'm bumping this thread from the member input needed, ask an expert forum:
Is there an acronym topic? I see so many and I am assuming there is a list already, haven't found it yet.
Not that I'm aware of. What sort of acronyms are you referring to? I'm happy to put it together.
IMHO QLF at KTC
LMAO LOL
:blink:
I put this together on my personal blog a while back...
http://www.406northlane.com/blog/2011/0 ... se-of-lol/ (http://www.406northlane.com/blog/2011/03/the-overuse-of-lol/)
If you're looking for something more KTC specific, I'd have to work on that. (or perhaps someone could put it together on http://www.Quit4Today.com (http://www.Quit4Today.com) ?)
That is funny Billy I was just preparing a post that we could add to that would help some of the newbies out. Lets see if it gets going. I was thinking of Adding some of the favorites and letting us make up some of our own and putting a funny twist to it that we could add some of our own names for the acronym like:
ACRONYMS
NIC--- Nicotine the Insidious Carcinogen
CAVES--- a sad Case of Addictions Vengeance Enlisting you back into Slavery
QLF---- Quit Like Fuck (Coach Steve QLF (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6349))
Technically, QLF and NIC are not acronyms. _
Is FUNOLAQ?
'crackup'
Technically...yes. _
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I'm bumping this thread from the member input needed, ask an expert forum:
Is there an acronym topic? I see so many and I am assuming there is a list already, haven't found it yet.
Not that I'm aware of. What sort of acronyms are you referring to? I'm happy to put it together.
IMHO QLF at KTC
LMAO LOL
:blink:
I put this together on my personal blog a while back...
http://www.406northlane.com/blog/2011/0 ... se-of-lol/ (http://www.406northlane.com/blog/2011/03/the-overuse-of-lol/)
If you're looking for something more KTC specific, I'd have to work on that. (or perhaps someone could put it together on http://www.Quit4Today.com (http://www.Quit4Today.com) ?)
That is funny Billy I was just preparing a post that we could add to that would help some of the newbies out. Lets see if it gets going. I was thinking of Adding some of the favorites and letting us make up some of our own and putting a funny twist to it that we could add some of our own names for the acronym like:
ACRONYMS
NIC--- Nicotine the Insidious Carcinogen
CAVES--- a sad Case of Addictions Vengeance Enlisting you back into Slavery
QLF---- Quit Like Fuck (Coach Steve QLF (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6349))
Technically, QLF and NIC are not acronyms. _
Is FUNOLAQ?
'crackup'
Technically...yes. _
C N B. cock n balls
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I'm bumping this thread from the member input needed, ask an expert forum:
Is there an acronym topic? I see so many and I am assuming there is a list already, haven't found it yet.
Not that I'm aware of. What sort of acronyms are you referring to? I'm happy to put it together.
IMHO QLF at KTC
LMAO LOL
:blink:
I put this together on my personal blog a while back...
http://www.406northlane.com/blog/2011/0 ... se-of-lol/ (http://www.406northlane.com/blog/2011/03/the-overuse-of-lol/)
If you're looking for something more KTC specific, I'd have to work on that. (or perhaps someone could put it together on http://www.Quit4Today.com (http://www.Quit4Today.com) ?)
That is funny Billy I was just preparing a post that we could add to that would help some of the newbies out. Lets see if it gets going. I was thinking of Adding some of the favorites and letting us make up some of our own and putting a funny twist to it that we could add some of our own names for the acronym like:
ACRONYMS
NIC--- Nicotine the Insidious Carcinogen
CAVES--- a sad Case of Addictions Vengeance Enlisting you back into Slavery
QLF---- Quit Like Fuck (Coach Steve QLF (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6349))
Technically, QLF and NIC are not acronyms. _
Is FUNOLAQ?
'crackup'
Technically...yes. _
C N B. cock n balls
QLAFM, quit like a fucking madman (Oct12)
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GTFOH
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GTFOH
But I like it here
GFYJ2BYOSS
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Quelling
Ubiquitous
Idiotic
Tobacco
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Hate to bring the mood down, but if you guys haven't seen this... please check it out and share it.
This... is... real. http://www.killthecan.org/facts/randys-story.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/facts/randys-story.asp)
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I just wanted to stop by and say hey. I'm really new to the quitting aspect of dipping, only 2 days so far with no dip. Dipped for the last 9 years. I hope this forum helps me along the way.
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I just wanted to stop by and say hey. I'm really new to the quitting aspect of dipping, only 2 days so far with no dip. Dipped for the last 9 years. I hope this forum helps me along the way.
No hoping, man. You can quit and we can help. Please keep reading all you can on here, but first go to the welcome center link above and read about posting roll call each day and why we do it. Then go post your day 2 in November 2012 group.
Yell if you need anything or have questions. Everyone here will be happy to answer any questions. I look forward to seeing you post roll in the November group.
gmann 567 days of freedom
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Today is support the Old Timers!!! (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=8) day. Sponsored by the May 2011 3-ballers (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=4289). Please stop in and post roll with a few of our quit forefathers today.
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People think Wastepanel has the scariest Avatar but that isn't true........ the honor goes to Cancrusher..... I can't sleep at night after I see it...... HAHAHAHA
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People think Wastepanel has the scariest Avatar but that isn't true........ the honor goes to Cancrusher..... I can't sleep at night after I see it...... HAHAHAHA
Wuss
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People think Wastepanel has the scariest Avatar but that isn't true........ the honor goes to Cancrusher..... I can't sleep at night after I see it...... HAHAHAHA
Agreed brother......stinking clown!
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Hate to bring the mood down, but if you guys haven't seen this... please check it out and share it.
This... is... real. http://www.killthecan.org/facts/randys-story.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/facts/randys-story.asp)
bumping this up... some of the most powerful stuff I have ever read.
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Mad props to July 2012 for coming up with this:
I'd like for July to adopt October 2010. They don't get many people posting in there. If you guys can take the time, post in there with them. (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=3519&st=0)
I think it is a great idea to get grandpa off of the porch. Be a great idea for you younger groups to adopt an older group... Tons of great support, and the practical knowledge of what it takes to quit.
Also a great idea for an older group to adopt a younger- keeps the quit fresh
(now read the post below this one- it's VERY important!)
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For starters I am not a doctor, so take all in consideration to your own health/safety concerns, discuss w/ a doc if you have conditions or whatever. This has been a great remedy for me so far, day 3 for me and I havent had a lot of problems, not to say they are not around the corner but so far this has helped me.
a. 1 tbsp Apple cider vinegar w/ 1 tsp honey in 32oz. of water 3x a day(fix to taste, helps cleanse, taste will get better w/ time)
b. Omega supplement w/ EPA DHA
c. good whole food vitamin
d. plenty of fiber (this helps absorb all the crap your body is getting rid of from nic use plus if you are drinking about 1gallon of water a day this will help w/ movin things along in the belly)
e. walk for 15-20 mins after a meal (helps w/ digestion and the after meal crave)
f. avoid fat and increase veggies and fruit (to many benefits to list)
g. good probiotic (this helps w/ digestion and rebuilds the good bacteria in the gut that tobacco use has killed)
h. hot tea (not as much caff. as coffee, which can cause anxiety, but enough to get u stimulated, there are some calming teas that can really help w/ mood issues thru the day or sleep)
i. herbal snuff
j. 10-20 mins yoga in the morning and before bed(there is great stuff on youtube, you dont need to be a pro, just do what you can)
k. cold showers (work your way into this, reduce temp each time)
l. i have heard and read that some homeopath supplements work real well, havent tried it
again my disclaimer: i am not a doctor, so use at own risk. all this has worked for me; more energy, less cravings, better mood, sleep well, no constipation, and a lot more.
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New blog post: Nip The Grip - RAW
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/07/nip-the-grip-raw/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/07/nip-the-grip-raw/)
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Hey i guys im new and i am just at the 24 hour mark of quitting. I hope this place can help me out. I do have a question my shoulders and neck have been tight they almost feel like a cramp is this normal?
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Hey i guys im new and i am just at the 24 hour mark of quitting. I hope this place can help me out. I do have a question my shoulders and neck have been tight they almost feel like a cramp is this normal?
Yep. While this isn't one of the things that we list on our "What To Expect" page http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/what.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/what.asp) this is certainly something that we see often. Your body is going through quite a few changes right now... and it's PISSED.
Head over to November 2012 and introduce yourself: index.php?showtopic=6793 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6793)
Welcome aboard!
chewie
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Regarding PERSONAL CHAT:
This has been a very valuable tool in helping and encouraging new quitters. Please make sure you are not over reacting to the misuse of a few by turning it off. Don't let the tail wag the dog.
Thanks.
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Regarding PERSONAL CHAT:
This has been a very valuable tool in helping and encouraging new quitters. Please make sure you are not over reacting to the misuse of a few by turning it off. Don't let the tail wag the dog.
Thanks.
Keddy - you make a very valid point. And one that didn't go unnoticed when we made the decision. I'd like to personally apologize to the folks that use the chat the RIGHT way. It's not your fault. You guys are building a brotherhood, supporting new quitters and using the chat the way it was intended. Thank you and I'm sorry.
I full recognize that this next section may piss some people off. At this point, I don't care.
Dear Tex (and a few others)... this is because of you. Congratulations. You've succeeded in "ruining it for everyone" with your bullshit antics. For a site you seem to hate you sure spend an awful lot of time sticking around and reading stuff. You sure expel quite a bit of energy going into chat, coming on the boards and making sure that people know you're still around. Wow... you can change your IP address and spoof a bunch of email addresses. You sir are one bad ass hacker. Has Apple called you yet? You must be so proud.
You've got friends who add your name/number to a line making a mockery of the site. In my opinion that shit should stop. But roll is sacred round these parts, and if you guys want to make a mockery of your roll call, that's your choice. Believe me... I can understand why your quit brothers would be pissed that you're not here anymore. They're your brothers, and they feel that we've done something wrong by keeping you away from the site. But by you continuing to be here, you're taking time away from the process of quitting. You've wasted more mod admin time than anyone in recent memory. Congratulations... you're the worst kind of troll. That said, I feel bad for you. My 4 year old thinks what you're doing is childish. Oh well...
I'll be honest here. There was a time when I thought that we may have made a mistake in banning you. You sure did have a lot of support. You had people coming out of the woodwork telling us to give you another chance and we'd see. But what you've done by not just going away gracefully is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt in my mind that we absolutely made the right call. These days, we need to waste time keeping you off the site when we should be dealing with helping new quitters and growing the site.
I've wasted enough time typing this response. I fully realize that I'm breaking the first rule of dealing with trolls: "Don't feed the trolls." For now, I'll go back to my cave and talk with the rest of the admins about how best to exact random rules on unsuspecting members. Apparently we're good at that.
I'll be expecting your new site which is run infinitely better than this to pop up any day in Google.
Love,
chewie
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Regarding PERSONAL CHAT:
This has been a very valuable tool in helping and encouraging new quitters. Please make sure you are not over reacting to the misuse of a few by turning it off. Don't let the tail wag the dog.
Thanks.
Keddy - you make a very valid point. And one that didn't go unnoticed when we made the decision. I'd like to personally apologize to the folks that use the chat the RIGHT way. It's not your fault. You guys are building a brotherhood, supporting new quitters and using the chat the way it was intended. Thank you and I'm sorry.
I full recognize that this next section may piss some people off. At this point, I don't care.
Dear Tex (and a few others)... this is because of you. Congratulations. You've succeeded in "ruining it for everyone" with your bullshit antics. For a site you seem to hate you sure spend an awful lot of time sticking around and reading stuff. You sure expel quite a bit of energy going into chat, coming on the boards and making sure that people know you're still around. Wow... you can change your IP address and spoof a bunch of email addresses. You sir are one bad ass hacker. Has Apple called you yet? You must be so proud.
You've got friends who add your name/number to a line making a mockery of the site. In my opinion that shit should stop. But roll is sacred round these parts, and if you guys want to make a mockery of your roll call, that's your choice. Believe me... I can understand why your quit brothers would be pissed that you're not here anymore. They're your brothers, and they feel that we've done something wrong by keeping you away from the site. But by you continuing to be here, you're taking time away from the process of quitting. You've wasted more mod admin time than anyone in recent memory. Congratulations... you're the worst kind of troll. That said, I feel bad for you. My 4 year old thinks what you're doing is childish. Oh well...
I'll be honest here. There was a time when I thought that we may have made a mistake in banning you. You sure did have a lot of support. You had people coming out of the woodwork telling us to give you another chance and we'd see. But what you've done by not just going away gracefully is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt in my mind that we absolutely made the right call. These days, we need to waste time keeping you off the site when we should be dealing with helping new quitters and growing the site.
I've wasted enough time typing this response. I fully realize that I'm breaking the first rule of dealing with trolls: "Don't feed the trolls." For now, I'll go back to my cave and talk with the rest of the admins about how best to exact random rules on unsuspecting members. Apparently we're good at that.
I'll be expecting your new site which is run infinitely better than this to pop up any day in Google.
Love,
chewie
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Regarding PERSONAL CHAT:
This has been a very valuable tool in helping and encouraging new quitters. Please make sure you are not over reacting to the misuse of a few by turning it off. Don't let the tail wag the dog.
Thanks.
Keddy - you make a very valid point. And one that didn't go unnoticed when we made the decision. I'd like to personally apologize to the folks that use the chat the RIGHT way. It's not your fault. You guys are building a brotherhood, supporting new quitters and using the chat the way it was intended. Thank you and I'm sorry.
I full recognize that this next section may piss some people off. At this point, I don't care.
Dear Tex (and a few others)... this is because of you. Congratulations. You've succeeded in "ruining it for everyone" with your bullshit antics. For a site you seem to hate you sure spend an awful lot of time sticking around and reading stuff. You sure expel quite a bit of energy going into chat, coming on the boards and making sure that people know you're still around. Wow... you can change your IP address and spoof a bunch of email addresses. You sir are one bad ass hacker. Has Apple called you yet? You must be so proud.
You've got friends who add your name/number to a line making a mockery of the site. In my opinion that shit should stop. But roll is sacred round these parts, and if you guys want to make a mockery of your roll call, that's your choice. Believe me... I can understand why your quit brothers would be pissed that you're not here anymore. They're your brothers, and they feel that we've done something wrong by keeping you away from the site. But by you continuing to be here, you're taking time away from the process of quitting. You've wasted more mod admin time than anyone in recent memory. Congratulations... you're the worst kind of troll. That said, I feel bad for you. My 4 year old thinks what you're doing is childish. Oh well...
I'll be honest here. There was a time when I thought that we may have made a mistake in banning you. You sure did have a lot of support. You had people coming out of the woodwork telling us to give you another chance and we'd see. But what you've done by not just going away gracefully is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt in my mind that we absolutely made the right call. These days, we need to waste time keeping you off the site when we should be dealing with helping new quitters and growing the site.
I've wasted enough time typing this response. I fully realize that I'm breaking the first rule of dealing with trolls: "Don't feed the trolls." For now, I'll go back to my cave and talk with the rest of the admins about how best to exact random rules on unsuspecting members. Apparently we're good at that.
I'll be expecting your new site which is run infinitely better than this to pop up any day in Google.
Love,
chewie
'clap'
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Regarding PERSONAL CHAT:
This has been a very valuable tool in helping and encouraging new quitters. Please make sure you are not over reacting to the misuse of a few by turning it off. Don't let the tail wag the dog.
Thanks.
Keddy - you make a very valid point. And one that didn't go unnoticed when we made the decision. I'd like to personally apologize to the folks that use the chat the RIGHT way. It's not your fault. You guys are building a brotherhood, supporting new quitters and using the chat the way it was intended. Thank you and I'm sorry.
I full recognize that this next section may piss some people off. At this point, I don't care.
Dear Tex (and a few others)... this is because of you. Congratulations. You've succeeded in "ruining it for everyone" with your bullshit antics. For a site you seem to hate you sure spend an awful lot of time sticking around and reading stuff. You sure expel quite a bit of energy going into chat, coming on the boards and making sure that people know you're still around. Wow... you can change your IP address and spoof a bunch of email addresses. You sir are one bad ass hacker. Has Apple called you yet? You must be so proud.
You've got friends who add your name/number to a line making a mockery of the site. In my opinion that shit should stop. But roll is sacred round these parts, and if you guys want to make a mockery of your roll call, that's your choice. Believe me... I can understand why your quit brothers would be pissed that you're not here anymore. They're your brothers, and they feel that we've done something wrong by keeping you away from the site. But by you continuing to be here, you're taking time away from the process of quitting. You've wasted more mod admin time than anyone in recent memory. Congratulations... you're the worst kind of troll. That said, I feel bad for you. My 4 year old thinks what you're doing is childish. Oh well...
I'll be honest here. There was a time when I thought that we may have made a mistake in banning you. You sure did have a lot of support. You had people coming out of the woodwork telling us to give you another chance and we'd see. But what you've done by not just going away gracefully is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt in my mind that we absolutely made the right call. These days, we need to waste time keeping you off the site when we should be dealing with helping new quitters and growing the site.
I've wasted enough time typing this response. I fully realize that I'm breaking the first rule of dealing with trolls: "Don't feed the trolls." For now, I'll go back to my cave and talk with the rest of the admins about how best to exact random rules on unsuspecting members. Apparently we're good at that.
I'll be expecting your new site which is run infinitely better than this to pop up any day in Google.
Love,
chewie
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Thank you to all on this site, Members, Mods and Admins, who are busy rowing the boat instead of rocking it. Lives are at stake. I don't want it on anyone's conscious if we miss one.
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So what Tex came into chat? So what he is masking his IP address? I saw him in chat once, we had a nice private conversation, maybe you should ban me?
What the fuck is going on around here? Mods changing roll call in February 2012, Pista telling people he is something special and not to mess with him in November?? WTF? Is this how it is? MODS are something special and the rest of us are just shit stains? Answer that for me please!
Something really fucked up is taking place here and it smells like shit, I understand people need to be banned, I understand people need to be moderators and I understand I need to know my place but the hypocrisy is really unbelievable, seriously part of the initial Tex ban conversation revolved around altering roll call and then some mod changes the shit!
It really is a circus, I have seen it a couple times now, realize that this site isn't about you (mods)and is about US.
Don't want to post this but good people are getting pissed and thinking about quitting, lets get over ourselves and realize others need help.
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So what Tex came into chat? So what he is masking his IP address?
What part of BANNED don't you understand?
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So what Tex came into chat? So what he is masking his IP address?
What part of BANNED don't you understand?
BWB, that's like your neighbor telling you to feel free to use his pool anytime and then inviting over someone you know to be unwelcome at your neighbor's house.
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So what Tex came into chat? So what he is masking his IP address?
What part of BANNED don't you understand?
BWB, that's like your neighbor telling you to feel free to use his pool anytime and then inviting over someone you know to be unwelcome at your neighbor's house.
I get all of that, read the rest of it, seriously read the rest of it!
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So what Tex came into chat? So what he is masking his IP address?
What part of BANNED don't you understand?
BWB, that's like your neighbor telling you to feel free to use his pool anytime and then inviting over someone you know to be unwelcome at your neighbor's house.
I get all of that, read the rest of it, seriously read the rest of it!
you are right. it is a circus cause dumbass keep posting tex and his bullshit. u state that you understand banning, but then you still chat with tex. I am not sure you really understand it. way to support the site and the leadership.
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So what Tex came into chat? So what he is masking his IP address?
What part of BANNED don't you understand?
BWB, that's like your neighbor telling you to feel free to use his pool anytime and then inviting over someone you know to be unwelcome at your neighbor's house.
I get all of that, read the rest of it, seriously read the rest of it!
you are right. it is a circus cause dumbass keep posting tex and his bullshit. u state that you understand banning, but then you still chat with tex. I am not sure you really understand it. way to support the site and the leadership.
bottom line... The Mod/Admin team collectively decided to move on without Tex. We are SURE that is the correct direction for the site and it's members. As long as Tex continues to sneak in the back door and be enabled and empowered to do so, the wound will perpetually be open, and no healing will be possible. Not good for any of us. I would ask anyone who has continued contact with tex to encourage him to leave this site completely, so that we can all get back to the business of quitting and encouraging others to do the same.
Thank you.
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So what Tex came into chat? So what he is masking his IP address?
What part of BANNED don't you understand?
BWB, that's like your neighbor telling you to feel free to use his pool anytime and then inviting over someone you know to be unwelcome at your neighbor's house.
I get all of that, read the rest of it, seriously read the rest of it!
you are right. it is a circus cause dumbass keep posting tex and his bullshit. u state that you understand banning, but then you still chat with tex. I am not sure you really understand it. way to support the site and the leadership.
Yes we chatted, I asked him how his quit was going and he said good, told him to let me know if he needed anything. Tex was way more supportive of me and my quit than another complete asshole that hangs out in chat.
I couldn't kick Tex out, he left right after we talked. I understand it completely, I understand Tex did things that mean he needed to leave, it's the rest of the drama, the changing of roll calls, the I am better than you posted in words horseshit.
I am a military person, I will support my leadership but "you can't DEMAND respect you have to COMMAND respect" think about that one for a little while!
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So what Tex came into chat? So what he is masking his IP address?
What part of BANNED don't you understand?
BWB, that's like your neighbor telling you to feel free to use his pool anytime and then inviting over someone you know to be unwelcome at your neighbor's house.
I get all of that, read the rest of it, seriously read the rest of it!
you are right. it is a circus cause dumbass keep posting tex and his bullshit. u state that you understand banning, but then you still chat with tex. I am not sure you really understand it. way to support the site and the leadership.
Yes we chatted, I asked him how his quit was going and he said good, told him to let me know if he needed anything. Tex was way more supportive of me and my quit than another complete asshole that hangs out in chat.
I couldn't kick Tex out, he left right after we talked. I understand it completely, I understand Tex did things that mean he needed to leave, it's the rest of the drama, the changing of roll calls, the I am better than you posted in words horseshit.
I am a military person, I will support my leadership but "you can't DEMAND respect you have to COMMAND respect" think about that one for a little while!
Hey, respect is also a two way street.
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So what Tex came into chat? So what he is masking his IP address?
What part of BANNED don't you understand?
BWB, that's like your neighbor telling you to feel free to use his pool anytime and then inviting over someone you know to be unwelcome at your neighbor's house.
I get all of that, read the rest of it, seriously read the rest of it!
you are right. it is a circus cause dumbass keep posting tex and his bullshit. u state that you understand banning, but then you still chat with tex. I am not sure you really understand it. way to support the site and the leadership.
Yes we chatted, I asked him how his quit was going and he said good, told him to let me know if he needed anything. Tex was way more supportive of me and my quit than another complete asshole that hangs out in chat.
I couldn't kick Tex out, he left right after we talked. I understand it completely, I understand Tex did things that mean he needed to leave, it's the rest of the drama, the changing of roll calls, the I am better than you posted in words horseshit.
I am a military person, I will support my leadership but "you can't DEMAND respect you have to COMMAND respect" think about that one for a little while!
Hey, respect is also a two way street.
Fuckers...I swear...
You fuckn guys never ONCE said to that piece of shit, "calm thhe fuck down."
Know what? He's manipulated you. All of you. You fuckin DEFEND him, and shit on the fuckin people that CREATED the very fuckin place that saved your dumb ass.
One more fucker demands an explanation...or talks about what a good shit he was...I'm putting you on preview.
Fuckin try me.
You're military? This is time to STFU and drive on with the mission: Quit.
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So what Tex came into chat? So what he is masking his IP address? I saw him in chat once, we had a nice private conversation, maybe you should ban me?
What the fuck is going on around here? Mods changing roll call in February 2012, Pista telling people he is something special and not to mess with him in November?? WTF? Is this how it is? MODS are something special and the rest of us are just shit stains? Answer that for me please!
Something really fucked up is taking place here and it smells like shit, I understand people need to be banned, I understand people need to be moderators and I understand I need to know my place but the hypocrisy is really unbelievable, seriously part of the initial Tex ban conversation revolved around altering roll call and then some mod changes the shit!
It really is a circus, I have seen it a couple times now, realize that this site isn't about you (mods)and is about US.
Don't want to post this but good people are getting pissed and thinking about quitting, lets get over ourselves and realize others need help.
BWB, I appreciate your on going support. To clarify no one changed roll yesterday, it was a joke that was added where if you type "a" then "b" shows up. I don't think they meant it to change roll. This has gone on to long, the big deal with Tex is he was banned. He is disrespecting this whole site. Let go man and just concentrate and now loosing anymore people.
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So what Tex came into chat? So what he is masking his IP address? I saw him in chat once, we had a nice private conversation, maybe you should ban me?
What the fuck is going on around here? Mods changing roll call in February 2012, Pista telling people he is something special and not to mess with him in November?? WTF? Is this how it is? MODS are something special and the rest of us are just shit stains? Answer that for me please!
Something really fucked up is taking place here and it smells like shit, I understand people need to be banned, I understand people need to be moderators and I understand I need to know my place but the hypocrisy is really unbelievable, seriously part of the initial Tex ban conversation revolved around altering roll call and then some mod changes the shit!
It really is a circus, I have seen it a couple times now, realize that this site isn't about you (mods)and is about US.
Don't want to post this but good people are getting pissed and thinking about quitting, lets get over ourselves and realize others need help.
BWB, I appreciate your on going support. To clarify no one changed roll yesterday, it was a joke that was added where if you type "a" then "b" shows up. I don't think they meant it to change roll. This has gone on to long, the big deal with Tex is he was banned. He is disrespecting this whole site. Let go man and just concentrate and now loosing anymore people.
Indeed.... The business of quitting needs to be our focus!
We have people coming here looking for help to stop a terrible addiction let's not forget that.
STAY QUIT
Greg
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Um so im a little past my 48 hour mark and my right cheek is numb. This normal?
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Um so im a little past my 48 hour mark and my right cheek is numb. This normal?
Yes. You are going to experience many changes in your body as you beco e nic free. Your body is pissed at you right now.
It gets better! Just stay clean.
Greg
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Um so im a little past my 48 hour mark and my right cheek is numb. This normal?
Yes. You are going to experience many changes in your body as you beco e nic free. Your body is pissed at you right now.
It gets better! Just stay clean.
Greg
Alright thanks. Its sure a lot more tolerable than the whiplash type pain i felt in my shoulders for 13 straight hours yesterday lol
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Um so im a little past my 48 hour mark and my right cheek is numb. This normal?
Yes. You are going to experience many changes in your body as you beco e nic free. Your body is pissed at you right now.
It gets better! Just stay clean.
Greg
Alright thanks. Its sure a lot more tolerable than the whiplash type pain i felt in my shoulders for 13 straight hours yesterday lol
I had all kinds of shit wrong with me in the beginning. Go read the what to expect post, gives you a good timeline of events. You are ridding yourself of a super toxin, there is some pain involved.
Just remember how bad this sucks! Stay clean and you only have to do it once!,
STAY QUIT
Greg
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Um so im a little past my 48 hour mark and my right cheek is numb. This normal?
Yes. You are going to experience many changes in your body as you beco e nic free. Your body is pissed at you right now.
It gets better! Just stay clean.
Greg
Alright thanks. Its sure a lot more tolerable than the whiplash type pain i felt in my shoulders for 13 straight hours yesterday lol
I had all kinds of shit wrong with me in the beginning. Go read the what to expect post, gives you a good timeline of events. You are ridding yourself of a super toxin, there is some pain involved.
Just remember how bad this sucks! Stay clean and you only have to do it once!,
STAY QUIT
Greg
Adizzle,
Just make sure you come back to the site, everyday, and complain. Even if you are feeling better, just come to the site everyday :). I would recommend that you share it with your group, too. I'm sure some of them are experiencing some of the same symptoms of getting healthy.
Glad to be quit with you today.
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day 10, suprisingly to me, tougher than the days before. i know everyone is different but these last couple days were worse than the first 7. anyone else been like that? this site has really helped me push through cravings, thanks to the people that started it and those maintaining it.
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day 10, suprisingly to me, tougher than the days before. i know everyone is different but these last couple days were worse than the first 7. anyone else been like that? this site has really helped me push through cravings, thanks to the people that started it and those maintaining it.
Our quits are similar yet different. It is normal to have ups and downs. For me quitting was like sailing out of a storm. Got tossed around at first, but gradually the seas became calmer. The reward for toughing out these bad days is well worth the price.
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day 10, suprisingly to me, tougher than the days before. i know everyone is different but these last couple days were worse than the first 7. anyone else been like that? this site has really helped me push through cravings, thanks to the people that started it and those maintaining it.
Our quits are similar yet different. It is normal to have ups and downs. For me quitting was like sailing out of a storm. Got tossed around at first, but gradually the seas became calmer. The reward for toughing out these bad days is well worth the price.
Make sure you read the what to expect post. It will give you a timeline of events. My quit early on was very wild. Huge mood swings. As time passed things leveled out. If things get bad go back to basics. Take it minute by minute if you have to. As long as you stay clean it will get better!
Glad you are here!
STAY QUIT
Greg
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Something I posted today on Facebook. I already linked to KTC, but for what it is worth, here is the copy. Use it if it helps anyone:
I've (tried to not) read a lot of the political vitriol on these pages this week:
Go Chi-fil-a!! How dare you Chik-fil-a?
To be honest, I've never had a Chik-fil-a. I hear there's one location in Minneapolis by the U, but parking is a pain there, and I really don't feel like wasting my time just to get a sandwich. I hear the food is pretty good, for fast food.
I am outraged, however. I am outraged that we spend our time either buying or not buying a stupid chicken sandwich "for a cause" when United States Tobacco spends every minute of every day churning out product that has two goals: to get you addicted and to kill you. Where is the outrage against that?
United States Tobacco doesn't care whether you are straight, married, Gay, Lesbian, Bi-Sexual, Transgendered, single, or even under 18. They want you to buy their product, get hooked, and die a slow death...all to boost their products.
And now they marketing Snus, a product with all sorts of fun "candy" flavors: strawberry, peach, mint. Sounds fun doesn't it? Sounds like something a kid would want to try, because, it tastes like candy, right? You think they're planning for the next generation of profits?
You want something to be angry about, this is what I'm fighting against. Visit http://www.killthecan.org/ (http://www.killthecan.org/) for details, resources on how to quit, and stories about what this crap can do to you. Then I want to see you get angry.
My name is Mike, and I claim my 580th day of freedom today.
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Something I posted today on Facebook. I already linked to KTC, but for what it is worth, here is the copy. Use it if it helps anyone:
I've (tried to not) read a lot of the political vitriol on these pages this week:
Go Chi-fil-a!! How dare you Chik-fil-a?
To be honest, I've never had a Chik-fil-a. I hear there's one location in Minneapolis by the U, but parking is a pain there, and I really don't feel like wasting my time just to get a sandwich. I hear the food is pretty good, for fast food.
I am outraged, however. I am outraged that we spend our time either buying or not buying a stupid chicken sandwich "for a cause" when United States Tobacco spends every minute of every day churning out product that has two goals: to get you addicted and to kill you. Where is the outrage against that?
United States Tobacco doesn't care whether you are straight, married, Gay, Lesbian, Bi-Sexual, Transgendered, single, or even under 18. They want you to buy their product, get hooked, and die a slow death...all to boost their products.
And now they marketing Snus, a product with all sorts of fun "candy" flavors: strawberry, peach, mint. Sounds fun doesn't it? Sounds like something a kid would want to try, because, it tastes like candy, right? You think they're planning for the next generation of profits?
You want something to be angry about, this is what I'm fighting against. Visit http://www.killthecan.org/ (http://www.killthecan.org/) for details, resources on how to quit, and stories about what this crap can do to you. Then I want to see you get angry.
My name is Mike, and I claim my 580th day of freedom today.
Nice work, Mike.
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Something I posted today on Facebook. I already linked to KTC, but for what it is worth, here is the copy. Use it if it helps anyone:
I've (tried to not) read a lot of the political vitriol on these pages this week:
Go Chi-fil-a!! How dare you Chik-fil-a?
To be honest, I've never had a Chik-fil-a. I hear there's one location in Minneapolis by the U, but parking is a pain there, and I really don't feel like wasting my time just to get a sandwich. I hear the food is pretty good, for fast food.
I am outraged, however. I am outraged that we spend our time either buying or not buying a stupid chicken sandwich "for a cause" when United States Tobacco spends every minute of every day churning out product that has two goals: to get you addicted and to kill you. Where is the outrage against that?
United States Tobacco doesn't care whether you are straight, married, Gay, Lesbian, Bi-Sexual, Transgendered, single, or even under 18. They want you to buy their product, get hooked, and die a slow death...all to boost their products.
And now they marketing Snus, a product with all sorts of fun "candy" flavors: strawberry, peach, mint. Sounds fun doesn't it? Sounds like something a kid would want to try, because, it tastes like candy, right? You think they're planning for the next generation of profits?
You want something to be angry about, this is what I'm fighting against. Visit http://www.killthecan.org/ (http://www.killthecan.org/) for details, resources on how to quit, and stories about what this crap can do to you. Then I want to see you get angry.
My name is Mike, and I claim my 580th day of freedom today.
Nice work, Mike.
Very well written.
Nicely done!!
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Something I posted today on Facebook. I already linked to KTC, but for what it is worth, here is the copy. Use it if it helps anyone:
I've (tried to not) read a lot of the political vitriol on these pages this week:
Go Chi-fil-a!! How dare you Chik-fil-a?
To be honest, I've never had a Chik-fil-a. I hear there's one location in Minneapolis by the U, but parking is a pain there, and I really don't feel like wasting my time just to get a sandwich. I hear the food is pretty good, for fast food.
I am outraged, however. I am outraged that we spend our time either buying or not buying a stupid chicken sandwich "for a cause" when United States Tobacco spends every minute of every day churning out product that has two goals: to get you addicted and to kill you. Where is the outrage against that?
United States Tobacco doesn't care whether you are straight, married, Gay, Lesbian, Bi-Sexual, Transgendered, single, or even under 18. They want you to buy their product, get hooked, and die a slow death...all to boost their products.
And now they marketing Snus, a product with all sorts of fun "candy" flavors: strawberry, peach, mint. Sounds fun doesn't it? Sounds like something a kid would want to try, because, it tastes like candy, right? You think they're planning for the next generation of profits?
You want something to be angry about, this is what I'm fighting against. Visit http://www.killthecan.org/ (http://www.killthecan.org/) for details, resources on how to quit, and stories about what this crap can do to you. Then I want to see you get angry.
My name is Mike, and I claim my 580th day of freedom today.
Nice work, Mike.
Very well written.
Nicely done!!
Take a bow Mr. Frazzled. Very well done, indeed!
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Something I posted today on Facebook. I already linked to KTC, but for what it is worth, here is the copy. Use it if it helps anyone:
I've (tried to not) read a lot of the political vitriol on these pages this week:
Go Chi-fil-a!! How dare you Chik-fil-a?
To be honest, I've never had a Chik-fil-a. I hear there's one location in Minneapolis by the U, but parking is a pain there, and I really don't feel like wasting my time just to get a sandwich. I hear the food is pretty good, for fast food.
I am outraged, however. I am outraged that we spend our time either buying or not buying a stupid chicken sandwich "for a cause" when United States Tobacco spends every minute of every day churning out product that has two goals: to get you addicted and to kill you. Where is the outrage against that?
United States Tobacco doesn't care whether you are straight, married, Gay, Lesbian, Bi-Sexual, Transgendered, single, or even under 18. They want you to buy their product, get hooked, and die a slow death...all to boost their products.
And now they marketing Snus, a product with all sorts of fun "candy" flavors: strawberry, peach, mint. Sounds fun doesn't it? Sounds like something a kid would want to try, because, it tastes like candy, right? You think they're planning for the next generation of profits?
You want something to be angry about, this is what I'm fighting against. Visit http://www.killthecan.org/ (http://www.killthecan.org/) for details, resources on how to quit, and stories about what this crap can do to you. Then I want to see you get angry.
My name is Mike, and I claim my 580th day of freedom today.
Nice work, Mike.
Very well written.
Nicely done!!
Take a bow Mr. Frazzled. Very well done, indeed!
way to get the word out there!!!!! Who should give a crap about Chic-fillet's political correctness!!!
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Something I posted today on Facebook. I already linked to KTC, but for what it is worth, here is the copy. Use it if it helps anyone:
I've (tried to not) read a lot of the political vitriol on these pages this week:
Go Chi-fil-a!! How dare you Chik-fil-a?
To be honest, I've never had a Chik-fil-a. I hear there's one location in Minneapolis by the U, but parking is a pain there, and I really don't feel like wasting my time just to get a sandwich. I hear the food is pretty good, for fast food.
I am outraged, however. I am outraged that we spend our time either buying or not buying a stupid chicken sandwich "for a cause" when United States Tobacco spends every minute of every day churning out product that has two goals: to get you addicted and to kill you. Where is the outrage against that?
United States Tobacco doesn't care whether you are straight, married, Gay, Lesbian, Bi-Sexual, Transgendered, single, or even under 18. They want you to buy their product, get hooked, and die a slow death...all to boost their products.
And now they marketing Snus, a product with all sorts of fun "candy" flavors: strawberry, peach, mint. Sounds fun doesn't it? Sounds like something a kid would want to try, because, it tastes like candy, right? You think they're planning for the next generation of profits?
You want something to be angry about, this is what I'm fighting against. Visit http://www.killthecan.org/ (http://www.killthecan.org/) for details, resources on how to quit, and stories about what this crap can do to you. Then I want to see you get angry.
My name is Mike, and I claim my 580th day of freedom today.
Nice work, Mike.
Very well written.
Nicely done!!
Take a bow Mr. Frazzled. Very well done, indeed!
way to get the word out there!!!!! Who should give a crap about Chic-fillet's political correctness!!!
That gave me quit wood :wood
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Something I posted today on Facebook. I already linked to KTC, but for what it is worth, here is the copy. Use it if it helps anyone:
I've (tried to not) read a lot of the political vitriol on these pages this week:
Go Chi-fil-a!! How dare you Chik-fil-a?
To be honest, I've never had a Chik-fil-a. I hear there's one location in Minneapolis by the U, but parking is a pain there, and I really don't feel like wasting my time just to get a sandwich. I hear the food is pretty good, for fast food.
I am outraged, however. I am outraged that we spend our time either buying or not buying a stupid chicken sandwich "for a cause" when United States Tobacco spends every minute of every day churning out product that has two goals: to get you addicted and to kill you. Where is the outrage against that?
United States Tobacco doesn't care whether you are straight, married, Gay, Lesbian, Bi-Sexual, Transgendered, single, or even under 18. They want you to buy their product, get hooked, and die a slow death...all to boost their products.
And now they marketing Snus, a product with all sorts of fun "candy" flavors: strawberry, peach, mint. Sounds fun doesn't it? Sounds like something a kid would want to try, because, it tastes like candy, right? You think they're planning for the next generation of profits?
You want something to be angry about, this is what I'm fighting against. Visit http://www.killthecan.org/ (http://www.killthecan.org/) for details, resources on how to quit, and stories about what this crap can do to you. Then I want to see you get angry.
My name is Mike, and I claim my 580th day of freedom today.
Nice work, Mike.
Very well written.
Nicely done!!
Take a bow Mr. Frazzled. Very well done, indeed!
way to get the word out there!!!!! Who should give a crap about Chic-fillet's political correctness!!!
That gave me quit wood :wood
Very nice!!
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Something I posted today on Facebook. I already linked to KTC, but for what it is worth, here is the copy. Use it if it helps anyone:
I've (tried to not) read a lot of the political vitriol on these pages this week:
Go Chi-fil-a!! How dare you Chik-fil-a?
To be honest, I've never had a Chik-fil-a. I hear there's one location in Minneapolis by the U, but parking is a pain there, and I really don't feel like wasting my time just to get a sandwich. I hear the food is pretty good, for fast food.
I am outraged, however. I am outraged that we spend our time either buying or not buying a stupid chicken sandwich "for a cause" when United States Tobacco spends every minute of every day churning out product that has two goals: to get you addicted and to kill you. Where is the outrage against that?
United States Tobacco doesn't care whether you are straight, married, Gay, Lesbian, Bi-Sexual, Transgendered, single, or even under 18. They want you to buy their product, get hooked, and die a slow death...all to boost their products.
And now they marketing Snus, a product with all sorts of fun "candy" flavors: strawberry, peach, mint. Sounds fun doesn't it? Sounds like something a kid would want to try, because, it tastes like candy, right? You think they're planning for the next generation of profits?
You want something to be angry about, this is what I'm fighting against. Visit http://www.killthecan.org/ (http://www.killthecan.org/) for details, resources on how to quit, and stories about what this crap can do to you. Then I want to see you get angry.
My name is Mike, and I claim my 580th day of freedom today.
Nice work, Mike.
Very well written.
Nicely done!!
Take a bow Mr. Frazzled. Very well done, indeed!
way to get the word out there!!!!! Who should give a crap about Chic-fillet's political correctness!!!
That gave me quit wood :wood
Very nice!!
It is sickening indeed to see the depths they will go to start an addiction as early as they can.
On the other hand, it is inspiring to watch people put a death lock on their demons.
Goo stuff Frazz. Goo stuff.
Thanks for keeping it real bro.
Proud to be clean with you today.
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'clap'
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Had my first beer today. Nice to know that after 21 days, I can get some of my life back. Thanks to all of you who have made my fear of failure work wonders. Dip is now anthema to me. You guys (and gals?) rock. You've made the fight not only bearable, but very winnable. Thanks again and I look forward to the next 79 days with a smile and a nice middle finger to the nic bitch.
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Had my first beer today. Nice to know that after 21 days, I can get some of my life back. Thanks to all of you who have made my fear of failure work wonders. Dip is now anthema to me. You guys (and gals?) rock. You've made the fight not only bearable, but very winnable. Thanks again and I look forward to the next 79 days with a smile and a nice middle finger to the nic bitch.
Dont just count the 79 days, you've got a lifetime of quit ahead of you. Keep up the good work! Glad to be QUIT with you!
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Had my first beer today. Nice to know that after 21 days, I can get some of my life back. Thanks to all of you who have made my fear of failure work wonders. Dip is now anthema to me. You guys (and gals?) rock. You've made the fight not only bearable, but very winnable. Thanks again and I look forward to the next 79 days with a smile and a nice middle finger to the nic bitch.
Dont just count the 79 days, you've got a lifetime of quit ahead of you. Keep up the good work! Glad to be QUIT with you!
Personally, I'd just worry about tomorrow.
Don't let anathema recrudesce to sycophancy...
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The QUIT is good....c'mon in folks!!
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I have made it past the frst day. I am now starting day two. Wow.
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I have made it past the frst day. I am now starting day two. Wow.
Wow indeed. Nice Job! Remember these first days, and know that you never have to go through them again.
Glad you are here,
30
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I have made it past the frst day. I am now starting day two. Wow.
Wow indeed. Nice Job! Remember these first days, and know that you never have to go through them again.
Glad you are here,
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I am a little extra stressed today. I have quit before and now realize that I need you guys in order to be successful in my quit. I need more phone numbers to be able to call people and talk. Thank you, Brett
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I have made it past the frst day. I am now starting day two. Wow.
Wow indeed. Nice Job! Remember these first days, and know that you never have to go through them again.
Glad you are here,
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I am a little extra stressed today. I have quit before and now realize that I need you guys in order to be successful in my quit. I need more phone numbers to be able to call people and talk. Thank you, Brett
Are you posting roll in November 2012 quit group, Brett?
If so, you should make this post in your group too and hopefully a fellow compatriot will step up and give you some digits to sext. Also, you should come here and read and post anytime you are having a crave or getting the "thinks" (am i really quitting?; i now know i can quit, so why not just start again until after this upcoming stressful event and then i'll quit for good?; etc). The "thinks" are just addict rationalization, by the way. It's bullshit to justify you continuing to use the drug you're addicted to.
Focus on getting through the day and falling asleep. Then get up and post roll before your mind even has a chance to get the "thinks." Do it again.
It won't be too long before you are feeling better than you've ever felt and you will be shaking your head at the poor fuggers you see still being dominated by nicotine. Trust me. It gets so much better and is worth everything you're going through right this minute.
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Thanks man. I didn't realize I need to post in My own group. I am Oct. 2012, but Thanks so much for the inspiration. I like your way of thinking, and Yes, i get the "thinks" all the time. Its also my dipper friends who try to persuade their "thinks" onto me. It's a constant barrage !!! I will perservere and make it through. I know i messed up on spelling.
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Is it normal to fight sleep during the beginning of my quit. It seemed that last night all I could do was toss and turn, no dreaming but my brain would not shut off, my legs were twichy, which is weird cause I bust my ass at the gym yesterday and it was a leg day. I was also kinda itchy. Is this my body trying to figure out what Im doing?
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Is it normal to fight sleep during the beginning of my quit. It seemed that last night all I could do was toss and turn, no dreaming but my brain would not shut off, my legs were twichy, which is weird cause I bust my ass at the gym yesterday and it was a leg day. I was also kinda itchy. Is this my body trying to figure out what Im doing?
Absolutely 100% normal.
http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/08/slee ... tting-dip/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/08/sleep-issues-when-quitting-dip/)
http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/symptoms.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/symptoms.asp)
http://www.killthecan.org/robs/effects.asp#5 (http://www.killthecan.org/robs/effects.asp#5)
Hang in there... you will return to "normal".
chewie
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Is it normal to fight sleep during the beginning of my quit. It seemed that last night all I could do was toss and turn, no dreaming but my brain would not shut off, my legs were twichy, which is weird cause I bust my ass at the gym yesterday and it was a leg day. I was also kinda itchy. Is this my body trying to figure out what Im doing?
Absolutely 100% normal.
http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/08/slee ... tting-dip/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/08/sleep-issues-when-quitting-dip/)
http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/symptoms.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/symptoms.asp)
http://www.killthecan.org/robs/effects.asp#5 (http://www.killthecan.org/robs/effects.asp#5)
Hang in there... you will return to "normal".
chewie
You will need to rediscover the "real" normal . . . . what your life/body should be like without the poison. Can you remember that far back?
The real you is a great discovery . . . .
Go for it!
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I cann't remember what its like. I have now made it to 48 hours with no nic. Thank you for your help and support.
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I cann't remember what its like. I have now made it to 48 hours with no nic. Thank you for your help and support.
take a look at your signature line. Just keep moving through the fog. The suck, embrace it, take it in, own it, make it yours so you remember its pain. If you remember the suck and how bad it is, you will not cave on an impulse because the pain to get back to where you are right now will keep you quit.
If you need anything, look me up or PM
Proud to be quit with you today
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If you're looking for something to keep you entertained for a few minutes, check out these couple of blog posts... the trolls are out in full force and I'm in the mood to deal with them.
KTC, Facebook And The Great American Spit Out
http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/03/ktc- ... -spit-out/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/03/ktc-facebook-and-the-great-american-spit-out/)
Hooch Snuff Review (Chattahoochee Herbal Snuff)
http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/10/hooch-snuff-review/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/10/hooch-snuff-review/)
That didn't keep me entertained for a second; it just made me angry . . . . :angry:
x2,
stupidity is impossible to fix, ignorance impossible to educate
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Day 5 in the books and doing better than I thought. New coach on staff has been a quitter for 8 mos, so that's gonna help. Another said he was done when he finished his current can.
Great to have this site. Even more is the support my wife is giving me. Such a relief to not be "sneaking a dip here and there". Never felt guilty about it until last Friday.
I too have been having the sleepless or restless nights.
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Day 5 in the books and doing better than I thought. New coach on staff has been a quitter for 8 mos, so that's gonna help. Another said he was done when he finished his current can.
Great to have this site. Even more is the support my wife is giving me. Such a relief to not be "sneaking a dip here and there". Never felt guilty about it until last Friday.
I too have been having the sleepless or restless nights.
Go post roll w Nov - check your Inbox (1) upper right hand
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If you're looking for something to keep you entertained for a few minutes, check out these couple of blog posts... the trolls are out in full force and I'm in the mood to deal with them.
KTC, Facebook And The Great American Spit Out
http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/03/ktc- ... -spit-out/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/03/ktc-facebook-and-the-great-american-spit-out/)
Hooch Snuff Review (Chattahoochee Herbal Snuff)
http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/10/hooch-snuff-review/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/10/hooch-snuff-review/)
That didn't keep me entertained for a second; it just made me angry . . . . :angry:
x2,
stupidity is impossible to fix, ignorance impossible to educate
I don't know how you spent the time to reply to such ill-minded, mis-informed, trolls who have zero idea of the cycle of a successful quit..
I guess they just have hearts the size of a pea and choose death over life..... JUSSS SAYIN'..
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Got a new Day 1 quitter over at whack the pack. If you get a chance, wander over and say howdy to CoopBeansMom.
http://forum.whackthepack.com/index/ (http://forum.whackthepack.com/index/)
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New blog post: Forum Live Chat Issues - 8.13.2012
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/08/foru ... 8-13-2012/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/08/forum-live-chat-issues-8-13-2012/)
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New blog post: Forum Live Chat Issues - 8.13.2012
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/08/foru ... 8-13-2012/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/08/forum-live-chat-issues-8-13-2012/)
You da man, man.
'Finger' DOS attacks.
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Got another new quitter today at WTP. Stop by and say hi to Kyle when you get the chance...
WTP.. (http://forum.whackthepack.com/index/)
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New blog post: How To Post Roll On An iPhone
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/08/how- ... an-iphone/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/08/how-to-post-roll-on-an-iphone/)
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Ok, Day 8 has started and started rough. Last night was o e of the worse nights for dip dreams, holy fuck. So I am wondering, can I or should I use a fake snuff to help with the crave now that my body is nic free? I will be away from my computer and I dont have a smart phone. Im on my second day of vacation. Shot me a text at XXX-XXX-XXXX and let me know what you think.
The reason that Im asking is because my insurance company wants me to use the nic gum, but I dont see how using a gum that has nic in it will help me become nic free. My biggest worry with using a fake snuff is that I will then crave the Cope and I cann't go back to that stuff.
So brothers let me know what you think.
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Ok, Day 8 has started and started rough. Last night was o e of the worse nights for dip dreams, holy fuck. So I am wondering, can I or should I use a fake snuff to help with the crave now that my body is nic free? I will be away from my computer and I dont have a smart phone. Im on my second day of vacation. Shot me a text at XXX-XXX-XXXX and let me know what you think.
The reason that Im asking is because my insurance company wants me to use the nic gum, but I dont see how using a gum that has nic in it will help me become nic free. My biggest worry with using a fake snuff is that I will then crave the Cope and I cann't go back to that stuff.
So brothers let me know what you think.
Admann, I edited out your phone number. I suggest that you share your phone number in a PM I stead of a public area of the board.
No gum. You're addicted to nicotine. The only way to quit is to never touch nicotine again. The best way to never touch nicotine again is to post roll each day and keep your word.
As for fake, you'll get a lot of different answers. I say use it if it helps you stay nic free. Your desire to use fake will go away.
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Ok, Day 8 has started and started rough. Last night was o e of the worse nights for dip dreams, holy fuck. So I am wondering, can I or should I use a fake snuff to help with the crave now that my body is nic free? I will be away from my computer and I dont have a smart phone. Im on my second day of vacation. Shot me a text at XXX-XXX-XXXX and let me know what you think.
The reason that Im asking is because my insurance company wants me to use the nic gum, but I dont see how using a gum that has nic in it will help me become nic free. My biggest worry with using a fake snuff is that I will then crave the Cope and I cann't go back to that stuff.
So brothers let me know what you think.
Admann, I edited out your phone number. I suggest that you share your phone number in a PM I stead of a public area of the board.
No gum. You're addicted to nicotine. The only way to quit is to never touch nicotine again. The best way to never touch nicotine again is to post roll each day and keep your word.
As for fake, you'll get a lot of different answers. I say use it if it helps you stay nic free. Your desire to use fake will go away.
http://blog.killthecan.org/2009/05/fake ... t-to-chew/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2009/05/fake-dip-to-chew-or-not-to-chew/)
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If you're looking for something to keep you entertained for a few minutes, check out these couple of blog posts... the trolls are out in full force and I'm in the mood to deal with them.
KTC, Facebook And The Great American Spit Out
http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/03/ktc- ... -spit-out/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/03/ktc-facebook-and-the-great-american-spit-out/)
Hooch Snuff Review (Chattahoochee Herbal Snuff)
http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/10/hooch-snuff-review/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/10/hooch-snuff-review/)
That didn't keep me entertained for a second; it just made me angry . . . . :angry:
x2,
stupidity is impossible to fix, ignorance impossible to educate
I don't know how you spent the time to reply to such ill-minded, mis-informed, trolls who have zero idea of the cycle of a successful quit..
I guess they just have hearts the size of a pea and choose death over life..... JUSSS SAYIN'..
wow...sometimes i listen to people and think, really? your the sperm that won?
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If you're looking for something to keep you entertained for a few minutes, check out these couple of blog posts... the trolls are out in full force and I'm in the mood to deal with them.
KTC, Facebook And The Great American Spit Out
http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/03/ktc- ... -spit-out/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/03/ktc-facebook-and-the-great-american-spit-out/)
Hooch Snuff Review (Chattahoochee Herbal Snuff)
http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/10/hooch-snuff-review/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/10/hooch-snuff-review/)
That didn't keep me entertained for a second; it just made me angry . . . . :angry:
x2,
stupidity is impossible to fix, ignorance impossible to educate
I don't know how you spent the time to reply to such ill-minded, mis-informed, trolls who have zero idea of the cycle of a successful quit..
I guess they just have hearts the size of a pea and choose death over life..... JUSSS SAYIN'..
wow...sometimes i listen to people and think, really? your the sperm that won?
'crackup'
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Ive got backpacking trip that im going on this weekend and i havent gone since i quit, but i used to always bring a can or 2 on these trips, do you recommend picking up a can of fake dip to bring or just a bunch of sunflower seeds? i kinda want to try the fake stuff but im afraid that i would like that and start doing that too much and waste my money on that instead. i havent used any fake dip since i quit but i kinda want to try it. Ideas?
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Ive got backpacking trip that im going on this weekend and i havent gone since i quit, but i used to always bring a can or 2 on these trips, do you recommend picking up a can of fake dip to bring or just a bunch of sunflower seeds? i kinda want to try the fake stuff but im afraid that i would like that and start doing that too much and waste my money on that instead. i havent used any fake dip since i quit but i kinda want to try it. Ideas?
Hey, my take on the situation is I do the fake stuff and I do not consider it 'wasting' money. Since it is tobacco and nicotene free I am not killing myself with it.
I too hike and camp (involved with the boy scouts) and like you used to pack and take it with me.
This past weekend was a camping trip and I brought with and used it all, sugarfree gum, the fake stuff, seeds.
So its all up to you in the end but don;t feel its a waste as it is still healthier, and the money is not going to big tobacco.
have fun
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Ive got backpacking trip that im going on this weekend and i havent gone since i quit, but i used to always bring a can or 2 on these trips, do you recommend picking up a can of fake dip to bring or just a bunch of sunflower seeds? i kinda want to try the fake stuff but im afraid that i would like that and start doing that too much and waste my money on that instead. i havent used any fake dip since i quit but i kinda want to try it. Ideas?
Hey, my take on the situation is I do the fake stuff and I do not consider it 'wasting' money. Since it is tobacco and nicotene free I am not killing myself with it.
I too hike and camp (involved with the boy scouts) and like you used to pack and take it with me.
This past weekend was a camping trip and I brought with and used it all, sugarfree gum, the fake stuff, seeds.
So its all up to you in the end but don;t feel its a waste as it is still healthier, and the money is not going to big tobacco.
have fun
dumb question im sure but ive never seen the answer on here, you spit it out like the real stuff right? :blink:
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Hi my name is Donnie . I am looking to quit this dip ! I have been doing this for my whole life. I am 40 yrs old and I am ready to quit. I'm not sure if I can do this, because I want it all the time, If I am awake , I have it in my mouth, sometimes I sleep with it. I keep 5 to 10 cans with me all the time. it has got a hold on me. please help me!!
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Hi my name is Donnie . I am looking to quit this dip ! I have been doing this for my whole life. I am 40 yrs old and I am ready to quit. I'm not sure if I can do this, because I want it all the time, If I am awake , I have it in my mouth, sometimes I sleep with it. I keep 5 to 10 cans with me all the time. it has got a hold on me. please help me!!
this will be the best decision, lean and learn from all those on here, hell I still am
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Ive got backpacking trip that im going on this weekend and i havent gone since i quit, but i used to always bring a can or 2 on these trips, do you recommend picking up a can of fake dip to bring or just a bunch of sunflower seeds? i kinda want to try the fake stuff but im afraid that i would like that and start doing that too much and waste my money on that instead. i havent used any fake dip since i quit but i kinda want to try it. Ideas?
Hey, my take on the situation is I do the fake stuff and I do not consider it 'wasting' money. Since it is tobacco and nicotene free I am not killing myself with it.
I too hike and camp (involved with the boy scouts) and like you used to pack and take it with me.
This past weekend was a camping trip and I brought with and used it all, sugarfree gum, the fake stuff, seeds.
So its all up to you in the end but don;t feel its a waste as it is still healthier, and the money is not going to big tobacco.
have fun
dumb question im sure but ive never seen the answer on here, you spit it out like the real stuff right? :blink:
Most of them are made so you CAN swallow them, but personally I spit when using them.
Chewie
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Ive got backpacking trip that im going on this weekend and i havent gone since i quit, but i used to always bring a can or 2 on these trips, do you recommend picking up a can of fake dip to bring or just a bunch of sunflower seeds? i kinda want to try the fake stuff but im afraid that i would like that and start doing that too much and waste my money on that instead. i havent used any fake dip since i quit but i kinda want to try it. Ideas?
Hey, my take on the situation is I do the fake stuff and I do not consider it 'wasting' money. Since it is tobacco and nicotene free I am not killing myself with it.
I too hike and camp (involved with the boy scouts) and like you used to pack and take it with me.
This past weekend was a camping trip and I brought with and used it all, sugarfree gum, the fake stuff, seeds.
So its all up to you in the end but don;t feel its a waste as it is still healthier, and the money is not going to big tobacco.
have fun
dumb question im sure but ive never seen the answer on here, you spit it out like the real stuff right? :blink:
Most of them are made so you CAN swallow them, but personally I spit when using them.
Chewie
And I heard Chewie swallows.... _
Damn.
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Hi my name is Donnie . I am looking to quit this dip ! I have been doing this for my whole life. I am 40 yrs old and I am ready to quit. I'm not sure if I can do this, because I want it all the time, If I am awake , I have it in my mouth, sometimes I sleep with it. I keep 5 to 10 cans with me all the time. it has got a hold on me. please help me!!
this will be the best decision, lean and learn from all those on here, hell I still am
Welcome Donnie!
Best decision you ever made.
First thing - flush your shit.
All of it. Flush.
Don't throw it in the dumpster, you'll only go diving for it in an hour. Flush now.
Come back and hit the Welcome Center up top. Learn how to Post Roll and head over to November 2012. That's your new home for the next 100 days.
You will never regret quitting.
Get to it. Shout if you need help.
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Ive got backpacking trip that im going on this weekend and i havent gone since i quit, but i used to always bring a can or 2 on these trips, do you recommend picking up a can of fake dip to bring or just a bunch of sunflower seeds? i kinda want to try the fake stuff but im afraid that i would like that and start doing that too much and waste my money on that instead. i havent used any fake dip since i quit but i kinda want to try it. Ideas?
Hey, my take on the situation is I do the fake stuff and I do not consider it 'wasting' money. Since it is tobacco and nicotene free I am not killing myself with it.
I too hike and camp (involved with the boy scouts) and like you used to pack and take it with me.
This past weekend was a camping trip and I brought with and used it all, sugarfree gum, the fake stuff, seeds.
So its all up to you in the end but don;t feel its a waste as it is still healthier, and the money is not going to big tobacco.
have fun
dumb question im sure but ive never seen the answer on here, you spit it out like the real stuff right? :blink:
Most of them are made so you CAN swallow them, but personally I spit when using them.
Chewie
And I heard Chewie swallows.... _
Damn.
thanks for the reply guys lol
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And I heard Chewie swallows.... _
Damn.
Someone had to... Figures it'd be you.
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And I heard Chewie swallows.... _
Damn.
Someone had to... Figures it'd be you.
and now the secret is out
:D :P
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'bang head' never mind
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Hi my name is Donnie . I am looking to quit this dip ! I have been doing this for my whole life. I am 40 yrs old and I am ready to quit. I'm not sure if I can do this, because I want it all the time, If I am awake , I have it in my mouth, sometimes I sleep with it. I keep 5 to 10 cans with me all the time. it has got a hold on me. please help me!!
I just turned 40 on Wednesday. If I can do this you can man. This site is amazing, buy in 100%, read and listen.
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Hi my name is Donnie . I am looking to quit this dip ! I have been doing this for my whole life. I am 40 yrs old and I am ready to quit. I'm not sure if I can do this, because I want it all the time, If I am awake , I have it in my mouth, sometimes I sleep with it. I keep 5 to 10 cans with me all the time. it has got a hold on me. please help me!!
I just turned 40 on Wednesday. If I can do this you can man. This site is amazing, buy in 100%, read and listen.
Donnie I've been dipping as long as you've been alive only thing that matters is you quit dip for today! For my first 60 days of quit I obsessed with my age I felt old and stupid now I feel like a leader and source of wisdom! At times like a father figure since many quitters are my daughters age or younger. We are all addicts seeking the same thing FREEDOM!!!
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Hi my name is Donnie . I am looking to quit this dip ! I have been doing this for my whole life. I am 40 yrs old and I am ready to quit. I'm not sure if I can do this, because I want it all the time, If I am awake , I have it in my mouth, sometimes I sleep with it. I keep 5 to 10 cans with me all the time. it has got a hold on me. please help me!!
I just turned 40 on Wednesday. If I can do this you can man. This site is amazing, buy in 100%, read and listen.
Donnie I've been dipping as long as you've been alive only thing that matters is you quit dip for today! For my first 60 days of quit I obsessed with my age I felt old and stupid now I feel like a leader and source of wisdom! At times like a father figure since many quitters are my daughters age or younger. We are all addicts seeking the same thing FREEDOM!!!
Donnie, if you are serious this time about quitting then flush those 5 to 10 cans down the shitter and get over the the October quit group and post your day 1 promise that you will not put that crap in your mouth. If you insist on using up your stash first, you will never make it!!!! Repeat again tomorrow!!!! It sucks and its going to hurt. There is no shortcut to quitting, but its WORTH all the pain you will get through to gain your freedom from something that eventually is going to kill you!!!!! I dipped and/or smoked for 30+ years and if I can do this, so can you!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hi my name is Donnie . I am looking to quit this dip ! I have been doing this for my whole life. I am 40 yrs old and I am ready to quit. I'm not sure if I can do this, because I want it all the time, If I am awake , I have it in my mouth, sometimes I sleep with it. I keep 5 to 10 cans with me all the time. it has got a hold on me. please help me!!
I just turned 40 on Wednesday. If I can do this you can man. This site is amazing, buy in 100%, read and listen.
Donnie I've been dipping as long as you've been alive only thing that matters is you quit dip for today! For my first 60 days of quit I obsessed with my age I felt old and stupid now I feel like a leader and source of wisdom! At times like a father figure since many quitters are my daughters age or younger. We are all addicts seeking the same thing FREEDOM!!!
Donnie, if you are serious this time about quitting then flush those 5 to 10 cans down the shitter and get over the the October quit group and post your day 1 promise that you will not put that crap in your mouth. If you insist on using up your stash first, you will never make it!!!! Repeat again tomorrow!!!! It sucks and its going to hurt. There is no shortcut to quitting, but its WORTH all the pain you will get through to gain your freedom from something that eventually is going to kill you!!!!! I dipped and/or smoked for 30+ years and if I can do this, so can you!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pssssst....kdip....that woould be November.
:unsure:
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New blog post: Jake’s Mint Chew Tobacco-Free Kids
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/08/jake ... free-kids/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/08/jakes-mint-chew-tobacco-free-kids/)
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So this is me fucking bitching because I need to get rid of the stress and and you all get to be my punching bag right now.
first off day 16 is damn near as tough as day 1, WTF? But beyond that Ihave been working out and chewing the shit out of the trident gum and still struggling. This morning was probally one of the worse. First off I was late to work, my son was dragging his feet, fucking playing games, goofing off with the dog, and basically being an 8yr old. BUt I was not in the mood and snapped bad at him. So that is why im here bithing through this fucking keyboard. Then when I finally get out of the house, I get stuck behind some fucking peice of shit driver on a two lane blacktop that fucking cant do the speed limit and is swerving all over the fucking road. 45 min drive to work turned into and 1 hour drive because of this asshole. and to make things better my one and only passing lane is being blocked by some fucking big rig slugging it up the hill and shit head is in the other fucking lane. I was so ready to throw my hands up and stop at the nearest store to pick up a can, but then I looked at my watch and saw that i was late for work. So I have a very simpile job, i need to open the office by 7:00 am. Over the course of the last week I have not managed to get this done. Im ready to fucking chew just to feel that rush. I know that I should not, I have been quiting good. But i need help today. 'help'
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So this is me fucking bitching because I need to get rid of the stress and and you all get to be my punching bag right now.
first off day 16 is damn near as tough as day 1, WTF? But beyond that Ihave been working out and chewing the shit out of the trident gum and still struggling. This morning was probally one of the worse. First off I was late to work, my son was dragging his feet, fucking playing games, goofing off with the dog, and basically being an 8yr old. BUt I was not in the mood and snapped bad at him. So that is why im here bithing through this fucking keyboard. Then when I finally get out of the house, I get stuck behind some fucking peice of shit driver on a two lane blacktop that fucking cant do the speed limit and is swerving all over the fucking road. 45 min drive to work turned into and 1 hour drive because of this asshole. and to make things better my one and only passing lane is being blocked by some fucking big rig slugging it up the hill and shit head is in the other fucking lane. I was so ready to throw my hands up and stop at the nearest store to pick up a can, but then I looked at my watch and saw that i was late for work. So I have a very simpile job, i need to open the office by 7:00 am. Over the course of the last week I have not managed to get this done. Im ready to fucking chew just to feel that rush. I know that I should not, I have been quiting good. But i need help today. 'help'
NO!!!!!! You don't need to go load up on death dirt to get a rush!!! Per a now famous quote:
You will NEVER regret quitting but you will ALWAYS regret caving!!!!
DO NOT fall into the trap again!!! Quitting sucks and is the hardest thing you will EVER DO!!!!! BUT its the BEST thing you will EVER do!!! FREEDOM is WORTH the PRICE!!! You may be suffering right now but you have a long life of Freedom ahead of you if you stay quit!!! Which path do you choose???
Freedom or Slavery!!! Its up to you! I hope you make the RIGHT choice!
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So this is me fucking bitching because I need to get rid of the stress and and you all get to be my punching bag right now.
first off day 16 is damn near as tough as day 1, WTF? But beyond that Ihave been working out and chewing the shit out of the trident gum and still struggling. This morning was probally one of the worse. First off I was late to work, my son was dragging his feet, fucking playing games, goofing off with the dog, and basically being an 8yr old. BUt I was not in the mood and snapped bad at him. So that is why im here bithing through this fucking keyboard. Then when I finally get out of the house, I get stuck behind some fucking peice of shit driver on a two lane blacktop that fucking cant do the speed limit and is swerving all over the fucking road. 45 min drive to work turned into and 1 hour drive because of this asshole. and to make things better my one and only passing lane is being blocked by some fucking big rig slugging it up the hill and shit head is in the other fucking lane. I was so ready to throw my hands up and stop at the nearest store to pick up a can, but then I looked at my watch and saw that i was late for work. So I have a very simpile job, i need to open the office by 7:00 am. Over the course of the last week I have not managed to get this done. Im ready to fucking chew just to feel that rush. I know that I should not, I have been quiting good. But i need help today. 'help'
NO!!!!!! You don't need to go load up on death dirt to get a rush!!! Per a now famous quote:
You will NEVER regret quitting but you will ALWAYS regret caving!!!!
DO NOT fall into the trap again!!! Quitting sucks and is the hardest thing you will EVER DO!!!!! BUT its the BEST thing you will EVER do!!! FREEDOM is WORTH the PRICE!!! You may be suffering right now but you have a long life of Freedom ahead of you if you stay quit!!! Which path do you choose???
Freedom or Slavery!!! Its up to you! I hope you make the RIGHT choice!
ADmann, bitch it out here. Not at your boy. Easier said than done, I know. I was a real dick to my kids the first few months, but come in here as much as you can.
Next, let me ask you - is dipping going to make your son listen any better?
Is dip going to make him move any faster?
Is a dip going to get that dumb ass driver in front of you to move the fuck along?
Is dip going to slow down time so you can make it to the shop by 7?
Fuck no. And you know it.
Sixteen days in is an incredible VICTORY! Yes, a victory. Look at it that way. You made it through all that shit (that will be there whether you are quit or not), looked that bitch in the face and kicked her right in the foofie.
Victory.
Keep fighting. It's worth it.
Shout if you need anything.
-Nolaq
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So this is me fucking bitching because I need to get rid of the stress and and you all get to be my punching bag right now.
first off day 16 is damn near as tough as day 1, WTF? But beyond that Ihave been working out and chewing the shit out of the trident gum and still struggling. This morning was probally one of the worse. First off I was late to work, my son was dragging his feet, fucking playing games, goofing off with the dog, and basically being an 8yr old. BUt I was not in the mood and snapped bad at him. So that is why im here bithing through this fucking keyboard. Then when I finally get out of the house, I get stuck behind some fucking peice of shit driver on a two lane blacktop that fucking cant do the speed limit and is swerving all over the fucking road. 45 min drive to work turned into and 1 hour drive because of this asshole. and to make things better my one and only passing lane is being blocked by some fucking big rig slugging it up the hill and shit head is in the other fucking lane. I was so ready to throw my hands up and stop at the nearest store to pick up a can, but then I looked at my watch and saw that i was late for work. So I have a very simpile job, i need to open the office by 7:00 am. Over the course of the last week I have not managed to get this done. Im ready to fucking chew just to feel that rush. I know that I should not, I have been quiting good. But i need help today. 'help'
NO!!!!!! You don't need to go load up on death dirt to get a rush!!! Per a now famous quote:
You will NEVER regret quitting but you will ALWAYS regret caving!!!!
DO NOT fall into the trap again!!! Quitting sucks and is the hardest thing you will EVER DO!!!!! BUT its the BEST thing you will EVER do!!! FREEDOM is WORTH the PRICE!!! You may be suffering right now but you have a long life of Freedom ahead of you if you stay quit!!! Which path do you choose???
Freedom or Slavery!!! Its up to you! I hope you make the RIGHT choice!
ADmann, bitch it out here. Not at your boy. Easier said than done, I know. I was a real dick to my kids the first few months, but come in here as much as you can.
Next, let me ask you - is dipping going to make your son listen any better?
Is dip going to make him move any faster?
Is a dip going to get that dumb ass driver in front of you to move the fuck along?
Is dip going to slow down time so you can make it to the shop by 7?
Fuck no. And you know it.
Sixteen days in is an incredible VICTORY! Yes, a victory. Look at it that way. You made it through all that shit (that will be there whether you are quit or not), looked that bitch in the face and kicked her right in the foofie.
Victory.
Keep fighting. It's worth it.
Shout if you need anything.
-Nolaq
Keep on fighting the good fight man. 16 days us huge! Keep fighting off the mind games. Keep coming in here to do your bitching and screaming, save the better side of yourself for your family and give us the shit. Proud to be QUIT with you today.
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So this is me fucking bitching because I need to get rid of the stress and and you all get to be my punching bag right now.
first off day 16 is damn near as tough as day 1, WTF? But beyond that Ihave been working out and chewing the shit out of the trident gum and still struggling. This morning was probally one of the worse. First off I was late to work, my son was dragging his feet, fucking playing games, goofing off with the dog, and basically being an 8yr old. BUt I was not in the mood and snapped bad at him. So that is why im here bithing through this fucking keyboard. Then when I finally get out of the house, I get stuck behind some fucking peice of shit driver on a two lane blacktop that fucking cant do the speed limit and is swerving all over the fucking road. 45 min drive to work turned into and 1 hour drive because of this asshole. and to make things better my one and only passing lane is being blocked by some fucking big rig slugging it up the hill and shit head is in the other fucking lane. I was so ready to throw my hands up and stop at the nearest store to pick up a can, but then I looked at my watch and saw that i was late for work. So I have a very simpile job, i need to open the office by 7:00 am. Over the course of the last week I have not managed to get this done. Im ready to fucking chew just to feel that rush. I know that I should not, I have been quiting good. But i need help today. 'help'
NO!!!!!! You don't need to go load up on death dirt to get a rush!!! Per a now famous quote:
You will NEVER regret quitting but you will ALWAYS regret caving!!!!
DO NOT fall into the trap again!!! Quitting sucks and is the hardest thing you will EVER DO!!!!! BUT its the BEST thing you will EVER do!!! FREEDOM is WORTH the PRICE!!! You may be suffering right now but you have a long life of Freedom ahead of you if you stay quit!!! Which path do you choose???
Freedom or Slavery!!! Its up to you! I hope you make the RIGHT choice!
ADmann, bitch it out here. Not at your boy. Easier said than done, I know. I was a real dick to my kids the first few months, but come in here as much as you can.
Next, let me ask you - is dipping going to make your son listen any better?
Is dip going to make him move any faster?
Is a dip going to get that dumb ass driver in front of you to move the fuck along?
Is dip going to slow down time so you can make it to the shop by 7?
Fuck no. And you know it.
Sixteen days in is an incredible VICTORY! Yes, a victory. Look at it that way. You made it through all that shit (that will be there whether you are quit or not), looked that bitch in the face and kicked her right in the foofie.
Victory.
Keep fighting. It's worth it.
Shout if you need anything.
-Nolaq
Keep on fighting the good fight man. 16 days us huge! Keep fighting off the mind games. Keep coming in here to do your bitching and screaming, save the better side of yourself for your family and give us the shit. Proud to be QUIT with you today.
Thank you guys for everything. I have managed to get into the gym and lift weights and get in some cardio. I've pounded the water and started to calm down. I will stay the quit, I will not fail.
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So this is me fucking bitching because I need to get rid of the stress and and you all get to be my punching bag right now.
first off day 16 is damn near as tough as day 1, WTF? But beyond that Ihave been working out and chewing the shit out of the trident gum and still struggling. This morning was probally one of the worse. First off I was late to work, my son was dragging his feet, fucking playing games, goofing off with the dog, and basically being an 8yr old. BUt I was not in the mood and snapped bad at him. So that is why im here bithing through this fucking keyboard. Then when I finally get out of the house, I get stuck behind some fucking peice of shit driver on a two lane blacktop that fucking cant do the speed limit and is swerving all over the fucking road. 45 min drive to work turned into and 1 hour drive because of this asshole. and to make things better my one and only passing lane is being blocked by some fucking big rig slugging it up the hill and shit head is in the other fucking lane. I was so ready to throw my hands up and stop at the nearest store to pick up a can, but then I looked at my watch and saw that i was late for work. So I have a very simpile job, i need to open the office by 7:00 am. Over the course of the last week I have not managed to get this done. Im ready to fucking chew just to feel that rush. I know that I should not, I have been quiting good. But i need help today. 'help'
NO!!!!!! You don't need to go load up on death dirt to get a rush!!! Per a now famous quote:
You will NEVER regret quitting but you will ALWAYS regret caving!!!!
DO NOT fall into the trap again!!! Quitting sucks and is the hardest thing you will EVER DO!!!!! BUT its the BEST thing you will EVER do!!! FREEDOM is WORTH the PRICE!!! You may be suffering right now but you have a long life of Freedom ahead of you if you stay quit!!! Which path do you choose???
Freedom or Slavery!!! Its up to you! I hope you make the RIGHT choice!
ADmann, bitch it out here. Not at your boy. Easier said than done, I know. I was a real dick to my kids the first few months, but come in here as much as you can.
Next, let me ask you - is dipping going to make your son listen any better?
Is dip going to make him move any faster?
Is a dip going to get that dumb ass driver in front of you to move the fuck along?
Is dip going to slow down time so you can make it to the shop by 7?
Fuck no. And you know it.
Sixteen days in is an incredible VICTORY! Yes, a victory. Look at it that way. You made it through all that shit (that will be there whether you are quit or not), looked that bitch in the face and kicked her right in the foofie.
Victory.
Keep fighting. It's worth it.
Shout if you need anything.
-Nolaq
Keep on fighting the good fight man. 16 days us huge! Keep fighting off the mind games. Keep coming in here to do your bitching and screaming, save the better side of yourself for your family and give us the shit. Proud to be QUIT with you today.
Thank you guys for everything. I have managed to get into the gym and lift weights and get in some cardio. I've pounded the water and started to calm down. I will stay the quit, I will not fail.
Take a victory lapp and hit the showers.
When gmann asks if you need soap, tell him no.
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So this is me fucking bitching because I need to get rid of the stress and and you all get to be my punching bag right now.
first off day 16 is damn near as tough as day 1, WTF? But beyond that Ihave been working out and chewing the shit out of the trident gum and still struggling. This morning was probally one of the worse. First off I was late to work, my son was dragging his feet, fucking playing games, goofing off with the dog, and basically being an 8yr old. BUt I was not in the mood and snapped bad at him. So that is why im here bithing through this fucking keyboard. Then when I finally get out of the house, I get stuck behind some fucking peice of shit driver on a two lane blacktop that fucking cant do the speed limit and is swerving all over the fucking road. 45 min drive to work turned into and 1 hour drive because of this asshole. and to make things better my one and only passing lane is being blocked by some fucking big rig slugging it up the hill and shit head is in the other fucking lane. I was so ready to throw my hands up and stop at the nearest store to pick up a can, but then I looked at my watch and saw that i was late for work. So I have a very simpile job, i need to open the office by 7:00 am. Over the course of the last week I have not managed to get this done. Im ready to fucking chew just to feel that rush. I know that I should not, I have been quiting good. But i need help today. 'help'
NO!!!!!! You don't need to go load up on death dirt to get a rush!!! Per a now famous quote:
You will NEVER regret quitting but you will ALWAYS regret caving!!!!
DO NOT fall into the trap again!!! Quitting sucks and is the hardest thing you will EVER DO!!!!! BUT its the BEST thing you will EVER do!!! FREEDOM is WORTH the PRICE!!! You may be suffering right now but you have a long life of Freedom ahead of you if you stay quit!!! Which path do you choose???
Freedom or Slavery!!! Its up to you! I hope you make the RIGHT choice!
ADmann, bitch it out here. Not at your boy. Easier said than done, I know. I was a real dick to my kids the first few months, but come in here as much as you can.
Next, let me ask you - is dipping going to make your son listen any better?
Is dip going to make him move any faster?
Is a dip going to get that dumb ass driver in front of you to move the fuck along?
Is dip going to slow down time so you can make it to the shop by 7?
Fuck no. And you know it.
Sixteen days in is an incredible VICTORY! Yes, a victory. Look at it that way. You made it through all that shit (that will be there whether you are quit or not), looked that bitch in the face and kicked her right in the foofie.
Victory.
Keep fighting. It's worth it.
Shout if you need anything.
-Nolaq
Keep on fighting the good fight man. 16 days us huge! Keep fighting off the mind games. Keep coming in here to do your bitching and screaming, save the better side of yourself for your family and give us the shit. Proud to be QUIT with you today.
Thank you guys for everything. I have managed to get into the gym and lift weights and get in some cardio. I've pounded the water and started to calm down. I will stay the quit, I will not fail.
Take a victory lapp and hit the showers.
When gmann asks if you need soap, tell him no.
'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup' Glad you are drinking the Koolaid ADMann!!! If you stay quit you only have to suffer through this once!!!
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I quit chew about a week ago. was a 2 can a day cope long cut. i need somewhere to vent. is this the right spot. really struggling. haven't slept. tried that patch shit, i think it made me worse. only 3 days off that. feel like ripping my skin off.
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I quit chew about a week ago. was a 2 can a day cope long cut. i need somewhere to vent. is this the right spot. really struggling. haven't slept. tried that patch shit, i think it made me worse. only 3 days off that. feel like ripping my skin off.
I see you found the "introduction section" I like what you are doing in there. Shows me you are desperate. I understand.
At this point, it could go either way.
We will soon see what you are made of.
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So this is me fucking bitching because I need to get rid of the stress and and you all get to be my punching bag right now.
first off day 16 is damn near as tough as day 1, WTF? But beyond that Ihave been working out and chewing the shit out of the trident gum and still struggling. This morning was probally one of the worse. First off I was late to work, my son was dragging his feet, fucking playing games, goofing off with the dog, and basically being an 8yr old. BUt I was not in the mood and snapped bad at him. So that is why im here bithing through this fucking keyboard. Then when I finally get out of the house, I get stuck behind some fucking peice of shit driver on a two lane blacktop that fucking cant do the speed limit and is swerving all over the fucking road. 45 min drive to work turned into and 1 hour drive because of this asshole. and to make things better my one and only passing lane is being blocked by some fucking big rig slugging it up the hill and shit head is in the other fucking lane. I was so ready to throw my hands up and stop at the nearest store to pick up a can, but then I looked at my watch and saw that i was late for work. So I have a very simpile job, i need to open the office by 7:00 am. Over the course of the last week I have not managed to get this done. Im ready to fucking chew just to feel that rush. I know that I should not, I have been quiting good. But i need help today. 'help'
NO!!!!!! You don't need to go load up on death dirt to get a rush!!! Per a now famous quote:
You will NEVER regret quitting but you will ALWAYS regret caving!!!!
DO NOT fall into the trap again!!! Quitting sucks and is the hardest thing you will EVER DO!!!!! BUT its the BEST thing you will EVER do!!! FREEDOM is WORTH the PRICE!!! You may be suffering right now but you have a long life of Freedom ahead of you if you stay quit!!! Which path do you choose???
Freedom or Slavery!!! Its up to you! I hope you make the RIGHT choice!
ADmann, bitch it out here. Not at your boy. Easier said than done, I know. I was a real dick to my kids the first few months, but come in here as much as you can.
Next, let me ask you - is dipping going to make your son listen any better?
Is dip going to make him move any faster?
Is a dip going to get that dumb ass driver in front of you to move the fuck along?
Is dip going to slow down time so you can make it to the shop by 7?
Fuck no. And you know it.
Sixteen days in is an incredible VICTORY! Yes, a victory. Look at it that way. You made it through all that shit (that will be there whether you are quit or not), looked that bitch in the face and kicked her right in the foofie.
Victory.
Keep fighting. It's worth it.
Shout if you need anything.
-Nolaq
Keep on fighting the good fight man. 16 days us huge! Keep fighting off the mind games. Keep coming in here to do your bitching and screaming, save the better side of yourself for your family and give us the shit. Proud to be QUIT with you today.
Thank you guys for everything. I have managed to get into the gym and lift weights and get in some cardio. I've pounded the water and started to calm down. I will stay the quit, I will not fail.
Take a victory lapp and hit the showers.
When gmann asks if you need soap, tell him no.
'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup' Glad you are drinking the Koolaid ADMann!!! If you stay quit you only have to suffer through this once!!!
Thank you again for letting me vent here and not on my family. I have made it another day and have sayed clean. I will keep going to the gym to get rid of the stress and I will keep bitching here, not at my family.
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So this is me fucking bitching because I need to get rid of the stress and and you all get to be my punching bag right now.
first off day 16 is damn near as tough as day 1, WTF? But beyond that Ihave been working out and chewing the shit out of the trident gum and still struggling. This morning was probally one of the worse. First off I was late to work, my son was dragging his feet, fucking playing games, goofing off with the dog, and basically being an 8yr old. BUt I was not in the mood and snapped bad at him. So that is why im here bithing through this fucking keyboard. Then when I finally get out of the house, I get stuck behind some fucking peice of shit driver on a two lane blacktop that fucking cant do the speed limit and is swerving all over the fucking road. 45 min drive to work turned into and 1 hour drive because of this asshole. and to make things better my one and only passing lane is being blocked by some fucking big rig slugging it up the hill and shit head is in the other fucking lane. I was so ready to throw my hands up and stop at the nearest store to pick up a can, but then I looked at my watch and saw that i was late for work. So I have a very simpile job, i need to open the office by 7:00 am. Over the course of the last week I have not managed to get this done. Im ready to fucking chew just to feel that rush. I know that I should not, I have been quiting good. But i need help today. 'help'
NO!!!!!! You don't need to go load up on death dirt to get a rush!!! Per a now famous quote:
You will NEVER regret quitting but you will ALWAYS regret caving!!!!
DO NOT fall into the trap again!!! Quitting sucks and is the hardest thing you will EVER DO!!!!! BUT its the BEST thing you will EVER do!!! FREEDOM is WORTH the PRICE!!! You may be suffering right now but you have a long life of Freedom ahead of you if you stay quit!!! Which path do you choose???
Freedom or Slavery!!! Its up to you! I hope you make the RIGHT choice!
ADmann, bitch it out here. Not at your boy. Easier said than done, I know. I was a real dick to my kids the first few months, but come in here as much as you can.
Next, let me ask you - is dipping going to make your son listen any better?
Is dip going to make him move any faster?
Is a dip going to get that dumb ass driver in front of you to move the fuck along?
Is dip going to slow down time so you can make it to the shop by 7?
Fuck no. And you know it.
Sixteen days in is an incredible VICTORY! Yes, a victory. Look at it that way. You made it through all that shit (that will be there whether you are quit or not), looked that bitch in the face and kicked her right in the foofie.
Victory.
Keep fighting. It's worth it.
Shout if you need anything.
-Nolaq
Keep on fighting the good fight man. 16 days us huge! Keep fighting off the mind games. Keep coming in here to do your bitching and screaming, save the better side of yourself for your family and give us the shit. Proud to be QUIT with you today.
Thank you guys for everything. I have managed to get into the gym and lift weights and get in some cardio. I've pounded the water and started to calm down. I will stay the quit, I will not fail.
Take a victory lapp and hit the showers.
When gmann asks if you need soap, tell him no.
'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup' Glad you are drinking the Koolaid ADMann!!! If you stay quit you only have to suffer through this once!!!
Thank you again for letting me vent here and not on my family. I have made it another day and have sayed clean. I will keep going to the gym to get rid of the stress and I will keep bitching here, not at my family.
Does this place work?
Damn right. See above.
Carry on with the quitting.
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So this is me fucking bitching because I need to get rid of the stress and and you all get to be my punching bag right now.
first off day 16 is damn near as tough as day 1, WTF? But beyond that Ihave been working out and chewing the shit out of the trident gum and still struggling. This morning was probally one of the worse. First off I was late to work, my son was dragging his feet, fucking playing games, goofing off with the dog, and basically being an 8yr old. BUt I was not in the mood and snapped bad at him. So that is why im here bithing through this fucking keyboard. Then when I finally get out of the house, I get stuck behind some fucking peice of shit driver on a two lane blacktop that fucking cant do the speed limit and is swerving all over the fucking road. 45 min drive to work turned into and 1 hour drive because of this asshole. and to make things better my one and only passing lane is being blocked by some fucking big rig slugging it up the hill and shit head is in the other fucking lane. I was so ready to throw my hands up and stop at the nearest store to pick up a can, but then I looked at my watch and saw that i was late for work. So I have a very simpile job, i need to open the office by 7:00 am. Over the course of the last week I have not managed to get this done. Im ready to fucking chew just to feel that rush. I know that I should not, I have been quiting good. But i need help today. 'help'
NO!!!!!! You don't need to go load up on death dirt to get a rush!!! Per a now famous quote:
You will NEVER regret quitting but you will ALWAYS regret caving!!!!
DO NOT fall into the trap again!!! Quitting sucks and is the hardest thing you will EVER DO!!!!! BUT its the BEST thing you will EVER do!!! FREEDOM is WORTH the PRICE!!! You may be suffering right now but you have a long life of Freedom ahead of you if you stay quit!!! Which path do you choose???
Freedom or Slavery!!! Its up to you! I hope you make the RIGHT choice!
ADmann, bitch it out here. Not at your boy. Easier said than done, I know. I was a real dick to my kids the first few months, but come in here as much as you can.
Next, let me ask you - is dipping going to make your son listen any better?
Is dip going to make him move any faster?
Is a dip going to get that dumb ass driver in front of you to move the fuck along?
Is dip going to slow down time so you can make it to the shop by 7?
Fuck no. And you know it.
Sixteen days in is an incredible VICTORY! Yes, a victory. Look at it that way. You made it through all that shit (that will be there whether you are quit or not), looked that bitch in the face and kicked her right in the foofie.
Victory.
Keep fighting. It's worth it.
Shout if you need anything.
-Nolaq
Keep on fighting the good fight man. 16 days us huge! Keep fighting off the mind games. Keep coming in here to do your bitching and screaming, save the better side of yourself for your family and give us the shit. Proud to be QUIT with you today.
Thank you guys for everything. I have managed to get into the gym and lift weights and get in some cardio. I've pounded the water and started to calm down. I will stay the quit, I will not fail.
Take a victory lapp and hit the showers.
When gmann asks if you need soap, tell him no.
'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup' Glad you are drinking the Koolaid ADMann!!! If you stay quit you only have to suffer through this once!!!
Thank you again for letting me vent here and not on my family. I have made it another day and have sayed clean. I will keep going to the gym to get rid of the stress and I will keep bitching here, not at my family.
Does this place work?
Damn right. See above.
Carry on with the quitting.
Great to see another victory! Quit on Admann...
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I want to punch a wall car anything i can get my hands on. Day 3 has been rough without but the day i am having i would of gone through a tin by now i am so figitty and on edge i cant stand it! !!!!! The worst part is a guy in my shop is milking a big dipper as we speak!!! 'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head'
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I want to punch a wall car anything i can get my hands on. Day 3 has been rough without but the day i am having i would of gone through a tin by now i am so figitty and on edge i cant stand it! !!!!! The worst part is a guy in my shop is milking a big dipper as we speak!!! 'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head'
Stay strong and embrace the rage.....it will save your life....this too shall pass. Proud to be quit with you today.
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To all of my brothers,
I have been trying different things to help me sleep during these very rough first couple of weeks. I go to the gym and lift weights, I go for lots of walks, I work on my motorcycle, and I have even changed my diet. All of things have helped out some what. The diet thing and going to the gm have helped the most in not gaining weight while I quit, but nothing has really helped the sleeping issue. I went to Super Supplements and was talking with the girls there about what I could take that would help me sleep but be non habit forming and maybe help my body recover from the workouts. I was given a product call ZMA (zinc magnesium and vitiam B). I have been taking it at night and I have had better sleep. This is only my exprience but if you are struggling to sleep try it. I have also noticed that my legs are not quite ase restless when I take the ZMA
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I want to punch a wall car anything i can get my hands on. Day 3 has been rough without but the day i am having i would of gone through a tin by now i am so figitty and on edge i cant stand it! !!!!! The worst part is a guy in my shop is milking a big dipper as we speak!!! 'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head'
Stay strong and embrace the rage.....it will save your life....this too shall pass. Proud to be quit with you today.
Stay strong and stay true. Quiting is the hardest thing you will do. When I was in the first days, I have a 20lbs sledge and an old tractor tire. I went to town on that shit till I could not pick up my arms. The other thing that helped me was going for a walk. Stay the quit its worth it. Your doing great
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To all of my brothers,
I have been trying different things to help me sleep during these very rough first couple of weeks. I go to the gym and lift weights, I go for lots of walks, I work on my motorcycle, and I have even changed my diet. All of things have helped out some what. The diet thing and going to the gm have helped the most in not gaining weight while I quit, but nothing has really helped the sleeping issue. I went to Super Supplements and was talking with the girls there about what I could take that would help me sleep but be non habit forming and maybe help my body recover from the workouts. I was given a product call ZMA (zinc magnesium and vitiam B). I have been taking it at night and I have had better sleep. This is only my exprience but if you are struggling to sleep try it. I have also noticed that my legs are not quite ase restless when I take the ZMA
Next time you go to Super Supplements put your mojo on the girls (they're bi if you didn't notice) take em home and fuck them bow legged, you'll sleep like a baby....trust me.
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This morning was probally one of the worse. First off I was late to work, my son was dragging his feet, fucking playing games, goofing off with the dog, and basically being an 8yr old. BUt I was not in the mood and snapped bad at him.
I can relate, I have been painting my deck, finishing a project that has been long overdue to finish. Blocked off the stairs and upper deck to keep the dogs and kids off the fresh paint. My 8 year old hops over the barricade and comes trotting through, I ripped into him and he ran to his room in tears. I went upstairs and explained that dad is in a bad place and used it as a teachable moment. I told him that if if was one of the dogs or his sisters they would have gotten yelled at or worse too. Sure he shouldn't have jumped the barricade, but the problem was mine and I overreacted by laying into him and it was MY fault, not his. You see dad is addicted to nicotine and after what I've put myself through I wish I'd never used chew in the first place and made him promise the same as a man of his word. I said I was sorry and that he's a great kid. He forgave me and even grabbed a brush and helped for a while before he lost interest. Glad I spoke to him about it instead of being a non caring prick or worse.
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moved to wildcard
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Good morning. Today is my Day 900. No shit. According to the savings calculator, I've managed to NOT spend a total of $9,274.50 on Copenhagen.
If you're a new guy reading this, please know, that I am no different than you. You can do this.
Never again.
For any reason.
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Good morning. Today is my Day 900. No shit. According to the savings calculator, I've managed to NOT spend a total of $9,274.50 on Copenhagen.
If you're a new guy reading this, please know, that I am no different than you. You can do this.
Never again.
For any reason.
Good stuff Nolaq.
New guys should also know that Nolaq does not go anywhere to be made sport of.
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Good morning. Today is my Day 900. No shit. According to the savings calculator, I've managed to NOT spend a total of $9,274.50 on Copenhagen.
If you're a new guy reading this, please know, that I am no different than you. You can do this.
Never again.
For any reason.
Good stuff Nolaq.
New guys should also know that Nolaq does not go anywhere to be made sport of.
Tru Dat.
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Good morning. Today is my Day 900. No shit. According to the savings calculator, I've managed to NOT spend a total of $9,274.50 on Copenhagen.
If you're a new guy reading this, please know, that I am no different than you. You can do this.
Never again.
For any reason.
Good stuff Nolaq.
New guys should also know that Nolaq does not go anywhere to be made sport of.
Tru Dat.
That's cool. You don't have to go anywhere. I can come to you if you're that lazy about it.
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Good morning. Today is my Day 900. No shit. According to the savings calculator, I've managed to NOT spend a total of $9,274.50 on Copenhagen.
If you're a new guy reading this, please know, that I am no different than you. You can do this.
Never again.
For any reason.
Good stuff Nolaq.
New guys should also know that Nolaq does not go anywhere to be made sport of.
Tru Dat.
That's cool. You don't have to go anywhere. I can come to you if you're that lazy about it.
Well done!!!
That should definately pay for a new fancy smancy two sided brochure printer.
and a vacation.
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Good morning. Today is my Day 900. No shit. According to the savings calculator, I've managed to NOT spend a total of $9,274.50 on Copenhagen.
If you're a new guy reading this, please know, that I am no different than you. You can do this.
Never again.
For any reason.
Good stuff Nolaq.
New guys should also know that Nolaq does not go anywhere to be made sport of.
Tru Dat.
That's cool. You don't have to go anywhere. I can come to you if you're that lazy about it.
Well done!!!
That should definately pay for a new fancy smancy two sided brochure printer.
and a vacation.
I did not...aw fuck it! Go ahead!
900 Days Bitches!
'Finger' Nic whore! I kick you in thr foofie once again!
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Why is it that when I attempt to change my avatar it remains the same? It's pissing me off. I am using the browse option and simply selecting JPEGs off my computer. None of em work. I'm not an idiot.....I don't think I am anyway...
Someone help me out. Crockett - you around? You change yours daily it seems.
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Why is it that when I attempt to change my avatar it remains the same? It's pissing me off. I am using the browse option and simply selecting JPEGs off my computer. None of em work. I'm not an idiot.....I don't think I am anyway...
Someone help me out. Crockett - you around? You change yours daily it seems.
Working now.....whatever
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Why is it that when I attempt to change my avatar it remains the same? It's pissing me off. I am using the browse option and simply selecting JPEGs off my computer. None of em work. I'm not an idiot.....I don't think I am anyway...
Someone help me out. Crockett - you around? You change yours daily it seems.
Working now.....whatever
Your computer has your old one cached. Hit the refresh button and it will go find the new one. I had that problem a couple times.
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wow....poof.
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At day 158 I've been contemplating some experiences on KTC. My experience of quitting dip is only a portion of my time here. I have met some wonderful people, enjoyed some great times dealing with addiction, I've learned so much about myself, I've started pulling out of my secret life. Some of the non-nic forums have helped me face other issues which needed to be addressed along with quitting dip. This is a life altering experience!
Thank you!!
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I quit today like i said I would, and it hasn't been easy. I'll be back in the morning to pledge to do the same tomorrow. I'm confident that I'll be as successful tomorrow as I was today. I'm in it to win it.
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At day 158 I've been contemplating some experiences on KTC. My experience of quitting dip is only a portion of my time here. I have met some wonderful people, enjoyed some great times dealing with addiction, I've learned so much about myself, I've started pulling out of my secret life. Some of the non-nic forums have helped me face other issues which needed to be addressed along with quitting dip. This is a life altering experience!
Thank you!!
This... Is... AWESOME! Reminds me why this place is just so important to me!
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shooting the cans this weekend!
a buddy of mine who also just quit has old empty cans saved, we are going out to his farm saturday morning for a day of target fun!
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Now don't jump all over me, Im just asking. The question, after quitting, have you ever slipped up with nicotine such as a cigar or even a cigarette? Did that derail your quit completely? I'm gonna have to be real careful around that because even when I was dipping, I craved the smokes while I was drinking a few beers.
I'm sure I can't let that slip in. I don't doubt that will bring back the nicotine urges again. Hell, I'm only 5 days in, so I'm just now getting some relief from the strong physical withdrawal. I just know I have a "Guys" weekend coming up in two weeks, and I need to be able to turn down the smokes and cigars, even after a beer.
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Now don't jump all over me, Im just asking. The question, after quitting, have you ever slipped up with nicotine such as a cigar or even a cigarette? Did that derail your quit completely? I'm gonna have to be real careful around that because even when I was dipping, I craved the smokes while I was drinking a few beers.
I'm sure I can't let that slip in. I don't doubt that will bring back the nicotine urges again. Hell, I'm only 5 days in, so I'm just now getting some relief from the strong physical withdrawal. I just know I have a "Guys" weekend coming up in two weeks, and I need to be able to turn down the smokes and cigars, even after a beer.
This should answer your question...
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/04/ciga ... e-quitter/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/04/cigars-and-the-quitter/)
Those weekends can be tough. Make sure you've got your plan in place.
chewie
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Yep. Gonna have to not touch any of it. Gonna have to learn a new way to duck hunt this year too.
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I was worried about the duck hunting as well. But the more time I put in, the more proud of myself I will be when the season starts and I am confident that pride will overcome the urge.
I was in the car today for about three hours, passed lots of old gas stations where I used to stop and buy Kodiak. Even stopped at one to get a drink and gas. Still holding strong.
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Well done boys! The more of those hurdles you get over, the easier they will become to face. Keep fighting!
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Day 8 and Weekend Plan (Day 9 and 10)
Spending time with my daughter and her fiancee talking about the wedding on Saturday....I will be healthier when the wedding happens because I have quit!
Rembered a friend of the family who died about 12 years ago from his nic bitch....I need to keep remembering him and that he would not quit even after his cancer diagnosis.
I am looking forward to a day when I will just smile again. I usually keep my lips closed cause I don't like my discolored teeth and when I smile my ninja showed. All the family times that I did not smile and all the family that has noticed me not smiling and thinking I am upset or angry. I have quit today and tomorrow.
I will be strong and stay quit!
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Day 8 and Weekend Plan (Day 9 and 10)
Spending time with my daughter and her fiancee talking about the wedding on Saturday....I will be healthier when the wedding happens because I have quit!
Rembered a friend of the family who died about 12 years ago from his nic bitch....I need to keep remembering him and that he would not quit even after his cancer diagnosis.
I am looking forward to a day when I will just smile again. I usually keep my lips closed cause I don't like my discolored teeth and when I smile my ninja showed. All the family times that I did not smile and all the family that has noticed me not smiling and thinking I am upset or angry. I have quit today and tomorrow.
I will be strong and stay quit!
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Now don't jump all over me, Im just asking. The question, after quitting, have you ever slipped up with nicotine such as a cigar or even a cigarette? Did that derail your quit completely? I'm gonna have to be real careful around that because even when I was dipping, I craved the smokes while I was drinking a few beers.
I'm sure I can't let that slip in. I don't doubt that will bring back the nicotine urges again. Hell, I'm only 5 days in, so I'm just now getting some relief from the strong physical withdrawal. I just know I have a "Guys" weekend coming up in two weeks, and I need to be able to turn down the smokes and cigars, even after a beer.
This should answer your question...
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/04/ciga ... e-quitter/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/04/cigars-and-the-quitter/)
Those weekends can be tough. Make sure you've got your plan in place.
chewie
Funny this past weekend, I was sitting by my brother's pool. He asked me if I wanted a cigar. I said sure, that's not dipping. As I sat there, I thought about smoking that cigar. I knew that another friend would be over later that smoked. I thought, I will probably talk myself into having a cigarette since I already had a cigar. Then I thought, man! that smoking is bad for you. It is safer to dip.
I told him to forget about the cigar.......
I know I am not strong enough
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Now don't jump all over me, Im just asking. The question, after quitting, have you ever slipped up with nicotine such as a cigar or even a cigarette? Did that derail your quit completely? I'm gonna have to be real careful around that because even when I was dipping, I craved the smokes while I was drinking a few beers.
I'm sure I can't let that slip in. I don't doubt that will bring back the nicotine urges again. Hell, I'm only 5 days in, so I'm just now getting some relief from the strong physical withdrawal. I just know I have a "Guys" weekend coming up in two weeks, and I need to be able to turn down the smokes and cigars, even after a beer.
This should answer your question...
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/04/ciga ... e-quitter/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/04/cigars-and-the-quitter/)
Those weekends can be tough. Make sure you've got your plan in place.
chewie
Funny this past weekend, I was sitting by my brother's pool. He asked me if I wanted a cigar. I said sure, that's not dipping. As I sat there, I thought about smoking that cigar. I knew that another friend would be over later that smoked. I thought, I will probably talk myself into having a cigarette since I already had a cigar. Then I thought, man! that smoking is bad for you. It is safer to dip.
I told him to forget about the cigar.......
I know I am not strong enough
BE CAREFUL!
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OK Fellas, I know I am going to be faced with some situations soon where I'm gonna feel so tempted to dip, but I know that I can't hide in my house the rest of my life either. Specifically, I'm looking forward to some outdoor outings I have planned with friends soon.
At the beginning of this week, when I quit, I decided I would try and slowly pull off anything that resembled taking a dip. Mostly I've used fireball candy, gum, seeds, and alot of beef jerky. But I think I might need to try some of that imitation mint snuff for these outdoor outings.
What is the best? I always dipped Copenhagen Long Cut, then Grizzly Wintergreen for the last several years (cheaper). What do you guys think?
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OK Fellas, I know I am going to be faced with some situations soon where I'm gonna feel so tempted to dip, but I know that I can't hide in my house the rest of my life either. Specifically, I'm looking forward to some outdoor outings I have planned with friends soon.
At the beginning of this week, when I quit, I decided I would try and slowly pull off anything that resembled taking a dip. Mostly I've used fireball candy, gum, seeds, and alot of beef jerky. But I think I might need to try some of that imitation mint snuff for these outdoor outings.
What is the best? I always dipped Copenhagen Long Cut, then Grizzly Wintergreen for the last several years (cheaper). What do you guys think?
I JUST posted a review of SMC here http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/09/smok ... ff-review/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/09/smokey-mountain-snuff-review/)
You can find that and other reviews here: http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/reviews.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/reviews.asp)
Is there a particular brand you're trying to emulate?
chewie
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New blog post: Smokey Mountain Snuff Review
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/09/smok ... ff-review/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/09/smokey-mountain-snuff-review/)
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OK Fellas, I know I am going to be faced with some situations soon where I'm gonna feel so tempted to dip, but I know that I can't hide in my house the rest of my life either. Specifically, I'm looking forward to some outdoor outings I have planned with friends soon.
At the beginning of this week, when I quit, I decided I would try and slowly pull off anything that resembled taking a dip. Mostly I've used fireball candy, gum, seeds, and alot of beef jerky. But I think I might need to try some of that imitation mint snuff for these outdoor outings.
What is the best? I always dipped Copenhagen Long Cut, then Grizzly Wintergreen for the last several years (cheaper). What do you guys think?
I JUST posted a review of SMC here http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/09/smok ... ff-review/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/09/smokey-mountain-snuff-review/)
You can find that and other reviews here: http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/reviews.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/reviews.asp)
Is there a particular brand you're trying to emulate?
chewie
I haven't tried it, but I know plenty of Cope LC guys swear by Hooch Classic.
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Ok, as I write this, i have a pinch of Smokey Mountain Straight Snuff in. That's the only flavor WalMart had. It's not bad. I never used Straight Long Cut (always tasted too sweet), but this is not bad. Honestly, I feel like I'm cheating. But I guess if there is no tobacco or nicotine, it ain't a sin.
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Ok, as I write this, i have a pinch of Smokey Mountain Straight Snuff in. That's the only flavor WalMart had. It's not bad. I never used Straight Long Cut (always tasted too sweet), but this is not bad. Honestly, I feel like I'm cheating. But I guess if there is no tobacco or nicotine, it ain't a sin.
Think of it this way - with the 'fake' all natural stuff you are not killing yourself.
So why would it be cheating - its the perfect way to give big tobacco the finger and say that you do not need it.
Trick is down the road where you will not even need the fake as much anymore (I am about a tin every 2 weeks, and that is at day 69.
but its all one day at a time
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Ok, as I write this, i have a pinch of Smokey Mountain Straight Snuff in. That's the only flavor WalMart had. It's not bad. I never used Straight Long Cut (always tasted too sweet), but this is not bad. Honestly, I feel like I'm cheating. But I guess if there is no tobacco or nicotine, it ain't a sin.
Think of it this way - with the 'fake' all natural stuff you are not killing yourself.
So why would it be cheating - its the perfect way to give big tobacco the finger and say that you do not need it.
Trick is down the road where you will not even need the fake as much anymore (I am about a tin every 2 weeks, and that is at day 69.
but its all one day at a time
If it keeps you off the 'real' thing go for it! You will eventually wean yourself off the fake but use as much as you want!
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Edit post: I'm a dumb ass just quit today! We can all do that!
If you read this before my edit I'm sorry, just a really bad day! I quit wit all of you today.
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Edit post: I'm a dumb ass just quit today! We can all do that!
If you read this before my edit I'm sorry, just a really bad day! I quit wit all of you today.
We've all been a dumb ass, that's why we're here. Accept the fact you have eliminated the option of dipping from your life. It is no longer a choice. When the sneaky bitch starts romancing you with memories of pleasure, don't forget these are memories of lies. Replace the romance with the truth - sores, disgust, sore throat, bad breath, slavery. Hate helps, but it is only a tool. Just take away the choice of dipping and there is no other outcome but quit.
I've been quit a little over a year now. I stopped getting daily thoughts of dip around day 220. For whatever reason there was a step- change in my quit and things just seem a lot easier since then. Still have the occasional challenge, but much easier for me to just say dip is no longer an option you lying whore. Never again. Not once.
WT you have been one of the most active quitters since I've been on here. It is okay to dial it back once in a while, just make sure you get your daily promise made. Don't burn out cause you're helping a lot of quitters.
Proud to be quit with you brother.
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Edit post: I'm a dumb ass just quit today! We can all do that!
If you read this before my edit I'm sorry, just a really bad day! I quit wit all of you today.
We've all been a dumb ass, that's why we're here. Accept the fact you have eliminated the option of dipping from your life. It is no longer a choice. When the sneaky bitch starts romancing you with memories of pleasure, don't forget these are memories of lies. Replace the romance with the truth - sores, disgust, sore throat, bad breath, slavery. Hate helps, but it is only a tool. Just take away the choice of dipping and there is no other outcome but quit.
I've been quit a little over a year now. I stopped getting daily thoughts of dip around day 220. For whatever reason there was a step- change in my quit and things just seem a lot easier since then. Still have the occasional challenge, but much easier for me to just say dip is no longer an option you lying whore. Never again. Not once.
WT you have been one of the most active quitters since I've been on here. It is okay to dial it back once in a while, just make sure you get your daily promise made. Don't burn out cause you're helping a lot of quitters.
Proud to be quit with you brother.
Most excellent.
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New blog post: Quitters Never Forget
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/09/quit ... er-forget/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/09/quitters-never-forget/)
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OK Fellas, I know I am going to be faced with some situations soon where I'm gonna feel so tempted to dip, but I know that I can't hide in my house the rest of my life either. Specifically, I'm looking forward to some outdoor outings I have planned with friends soon.
At the beginning of this week, when I quit, I decided I would try and slowly pull off anything that resembled taking a dip. Mostly I've used fireball candy, gum, seeds, and alot of beef jerky. But I think I might need to try some of that imitation mint snuff for these outdoor outings.
What is the best? I always dipped Copenhagen Long Cut, then Grizzly Wintergreen for the last several years (cheaper). What do you guys think?
First day here so I'm not sure If I'm doing this right. I quit 9 days ago and use Smokey Mountain Snuff a couple times a day. If you used Griz Wintergreen, the Smokey Mountain Wintergreen is pretty good. The pouches are very good. If you've never ordered, you can get a free 5 pack of different flavors to try. I did that a year ago....I started back up after 3 or 4 days. The cans I got from Smokey Mountain were still good when I quit on the 4th. Good luck and stay strong.
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OK Fellas, I know I am going to be faced with some situations soon where I'm gonna feel so tempted to dip, but I know that I can't hide in my house the rest of my life either. Specifically, I'm looking forward to some outdoor outings I have planned with friends soon.
At the beginning of this week, when I quit, I decided I would try and slowly pull off anything that resembled taking a dip. Mostly I've used fireball candy, gum, seeds, and alot of beef jerky. But I think I might need to try some of that imitation mint snuff for these outdoor outings.
What is the best? I always dipped Copenhagen Long Cut, then Grizzly Wintergreen for the last several years (cheaper). What do you guys think?
First day here so I'm not sure If I'm doing this right. I quit 9 days ago and use Smokey Mountain Snuff a couple times a day. If you used Griz Wintergreen, the Smokey Mountain Wintergreen is pretty good. The pouches are very good. If you've never ordered, you can get a free 5 pack of different flavors to try. I did that a year ago....I started back up after 3 or 4 days. The cans I got from Smokey Mountain were still good when I quit on the 4th. Good luck and stay strong.
i was a mint and wintergreen guy. smokey mountain worked for me.
it took me a while to find it (2 weeks), so once i had that replacement, it was AWESOME. there are some that caution against using fake dip. it saved my quit numerous times. at the end of the day, you do whatever it takes to keep tobacco out of your piehole.
you will eventually just stop using fake. with no side effects. hell, without any reall thought about it at all. you'll run out one day, forget to get more and never get around to it. you might grab a tin of fake for a road trip, but you'll drop it once you get where you're going.
there are a ton of other products that people like more than smokey mountain; i never tried others... couldn't find them and with smokey mtn, i didn't really need to. (a weird situation kept me from being willing to order alternatives via internet/mail... worked at a boarding school and could have gotten in trouble for dipping/having dipped on campus).
find a fake product that works for you. texture is as important as taste, but nothing will be perfect. don't throw away a decent alternative looking for the perfect non-dip dip. good enough is good enough with fake. you'll just need it to fight off a crave.
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OK Fellas, I know I am going to be faced with some situations soon where I'm gonna feel so tempted to dip, but I know that I can't hide in my house the rest of my life either. Specifically, I'm looking forward to some outdoor outings I have planned with friends soon.
At the beginning of this week, when I quit, I decided I would try and slowly pull off anything that resembled taking a dip. Mostly I've used fireball candy, gum, seeds, and alot of beef jerky. But I think I might need to try some of that imitation mint snuff for these outdoor outings.
What is the best? I always dipped Copenhagen Long Cut, then Grizzly Wintergreen for the last several years (cheaper). What do you guys think?
First day here so I'm not sure If I'm doing this right. I quit 9 days ago and use Smokey Mountain Snuff a couple times a day. If you used Griz Wintergreen, the Smokey Mountain Wintergreen is pretty good. The pouches are very good. If you've never ordered, you can get a free 5 pack of different flavors to try. I did that a year ago....I started back up after 3 or 4 days. The cans I got from Smokey Mountain were still good when I quit on the 4th. Good luck and stay strong.
i was a mint and wintergreen guy. smokey mountain worked for me.
it took me a while to find it (2 weeks), so once i had that replacement, it was AWESOME. there are some that caution against using fake dip. it saved my quit numerous times. at the end of the day, you do whatever it takes to keep tobacco out of your piehole.
you will eventually just stop using fake. with no side effects. hell, without any reall thought about it at all. you'll run out one day, forget to get more and never get around to it. you might grab a tin of fake for a road trip, but you'll drop it once you get where you're going.
there are a ton of other products that people like more than smokey mountain; i never tried others... couldn't find them and with smokey mtn, i didn't really need to. (a weird situation kept me from being willing to order alternatives via internet/mail... worked at a boarding school and could have gotten in trouble for dipping/having dipped on campus).
find a fake product that works for you. texture is as important as taste, but nothing will be perfect. don't throw away a decent alternative looking for the perfect non-dip dip. good enough is good enough with fake. you'll just need it to fight off a crave.
We've got a slew of reviews available here: http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/reviews.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/reviews.asp) and some coupons here: http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp)
If you're looking for a close sub to Grizzley Wintegreen I'm strongly suggest either Hooch or SMC Wintergreen. Hooch probably matches the taste better, but SMC is more of a "long cut".
My reviews of both of those are here:
http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/10/hooch-snuff-review/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/10/hooch-snuff-review/)
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/09/smok ... ff-review/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/09/smokey-mountain-snuff-review/)
And I'll agree with others... feel free to chew this stuff with no remorse. They're tools. Use them.
chewie
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Here is my plug for the KTC coffee mug (http://store.killthecan.org/drinkware/mugs-and-steins)
And here's a nice hot cuppa joe in said sexy mug (http://i.imgur.com/7MPBb.png)
Support the place that gives you support every day!
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Here is my plug for the KTC coffee mug (http://store.killthecan.org/drinkware/mugs-and-steins)
And here's a nice hot cuppa joe in said sexy mug (http://i.imgur.com/7MPBb.png)
Support the place that gives you support every day!
Did you put vodka in it?
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Here is my plug for the KTC coffee mug (http://store.killthecan.org/drinkware/mugs-and-steins)
And here's a nice hot cuppa joe in said sexy mug (http://i.imgur.com/7MPBb.png)
Support the place that gives you support every day!
Did you put vodka in it?
Nope, vodka is only for weekends :)
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Can I be on admin review? Apparently I make people leave the site, I'm leading Nov '12 into eternal damnation, and I have a complete lack of character.
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Can I be on admin review? Apparently I make people leave the site, I'm leading Nov '12 into eternal damnation, and I have a complete lack of character.
welcome to the club
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Can I be on admin review? Apparently I make people leave the site, I'm leading Nov '12 into eternal damnation, and I have a complete lack of character.
Huh?
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Can I be on admin review? Apparently I make people leave the site, I'm leading Nov '12 into eternal damnation, and I have a complete lack of character.
Huh?
I angered some people yesterday...
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Can I be on admin review? Apparently I make people leave the site, I'm leading Nov '12 into eternal damnation, and I have a complete lack of character.
welcome to the club
BAH HA HA!!!!
MOA
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Can I be on admin review? Apparently I make people leave the site, I'm leading Nov '12 into eternal damnation, and I have a complete lack of character.
Huh?
I angered some people yesterday...
'finger point' 'rem' 'finger point'
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I got a suggestion and wondered if anyone had ever thought of it. Would there be a 'niche' to take all of the Words of Wisdom, and a few other items of humor and such and maybe get them bound and available at the KTC Store?
Just thinking there is so much good information.....
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I got a suggestion and wondered if anyone had ever thought of it. Would there be a 'niche' to take all of the Words of Wisdom, and a few other items of humor and such and maybe get them bound and available at the KTC Store?
Just thinking there is so much good information.....
If there's interest in this I'm happy to make it available on the store.
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I got a suggestion and wondered if anyone had ever thought of it. Would there be a 'niche' to take all of the Words of Wisdom, and a few other items of humor and such and maybe get them bound and available at the KTC Store?
Just thinking there is so much good information.....
If there's interest in this I'm happy to make it available on the store.
Dear Lord, I can see it now...
"Behind the Ghey Door" A Resource For Non-Heterosexuals Trying to Quit Tobacco use.
Forward by gmann.
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I got a suggestion and wondered if anyone had ever thought of it. Would there be a 'niche' to take all of the Words of Wisdom, and a few other items of humor and such and maybe get them bound and available at the KTC Store?
Just thinking there is so much good information.....
If there's interest in this I'm happy to make it available on the store.
Dear Lord, I can see it now...
"Behind the Ghey Door" A Resource For Non-Heterosexuals Trying to Quit Tobacco use.
Forward by gmann.
"Rear by NOLAQ."
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I got a suggestion and wondered if anyone had ever thought of it. Would there be a 'niche' to take all of the Words of Wisdom, and a few other items of humor and such and maybe get them bound and available at the KTC Store?
Just thinking there is so much good information.....
If there's interest in this I'm happy to make it available on the store.
Dear Lord, I can see it now...
"Behind the Ghey Door" A Resource For Non-Heterosexuals Trying to Quit Tobacco use.
Forward by gmann.
"Rear by NOLAQ."
Both of you guys on the cover. 'crackup' 'crackup'
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I got a suggestion and wondered if anyone had ever thought of it. Would there be a 'niche' to take all of the Words of Wisdom, and a few other items of humor and such and maybe get them bound and available at the KTC Store?
Just thinking there is so much good information.....
If there's interest in this I'm happy to make it available on the store.
Dear Lord, I can see it now...
"Behind the Ghey Door" A Resource For Non-Heterosexuals Trying to Quit Tobacco use.
Forward by gmann.
"Rear by NOLAQ."
Both of you guys on the cover. 'crackup' 'crackup'
Ok didn't know if I should continue, as one was laughing my ass off so hard.
but I was thinking if one would agree and would call it along the lines of Cliff Notes....., or something of the like, and ask Big Brother Jack if he would write an introduction...
Is there a way we could see the interest? Could we put it as a poll in the one section of member input?
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I got a suggestion and wondered if anyone had ever thought of it. Would there be a 'niche' to take all of the Words of Wisdom, and a few other items of humor and such and maybe get them bound and available at the KTC Store?
Just thinking there is so much good information.....
If there's interest in this I'm happy to make it available on the store.
Dear Lord, I can see it now...
"Behind the Ghey Door" A Resource For Non-Heterosexuals Trying to Quit Tobacco use.
Forward by gmann.
"Rear by NOLAQ."
Both of you guys on the cover. 'crackup' 'crackup'
Ok didn't know if I should continue, as one was laughing my ass off so hard.
but I was thinking if one would agree and would call it along the lines of Cliff Notes....., or something of the like, and ask Big Brother Jack if he would write an introduction...
Is there a way we could see the interest? Could we put it as a poll in the one section of member input?
They're talking ghey and you mention polls, you can't make this shit up, priceless!
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I got a suggestion and wondered if anyone had ever thought of it. Would there be a 'niche' to take all of the Words of Wisdom, and a few other items of humor and such and maybe get them bound and available at the KTC Store?
Just thinking there is so much good information.....
If there's interest in this I'm happy to make it available on the store.
Dear Lord, I can see it now...
"Behind the Ghey Door" A Resource For Non-Heterosexuals Trying to Quit Tobacco use.
Forward by gmann.
"Rear by NOLAQ."
Both of you guys on the cover. 'crackup' 'crackup'
Ok didn't know if I should continue, as one was laughing my ass off so hard.
but I was thinking if one would agree and would call it along the lines of Cliff Notes....., or something of the like, and ask Big Brother Jack if he would write an introduction...
Is there a way we could see the interest? Could we put it as a poll in the one section of member input?
They're talking ghey and you mention polls, you can't make this shit up, priceless!
The ghey novel will be printed by Nolaq and his crew of little mouth-breathers on one side per page only. If the the printing apparatus has been updated to print on both sides, we will have it printed on both front and back of the many pages of this proposed literary work
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I got a suggestion and wondered if anyone had ever thought of it. Would there be a 'niche' to take all of the Words of Wisdom, and a few other items of humor and such and maybe get them bound and available at the KTC Store?
Just thinking there is so much good information.....
If there's interest in this I'm happy to make it available on the store.
Dear Lord, I can see it now...
"Behind the Ghey Door" A Resource For Non-Heterosexuals Trying to Quit Tobacco use.
Forward by gmann.
"Rear by NOLAQ."
Both of you guys on the cover. 'crackup' 'crackup'
Ok didn't know if I should continue, as one was laughing my ass off so hard.
but I was thinking if one would agree and would call it along the lines of Cliff Notes....., or something of the like, and ask Big Brother Jack if he would write an introduction...
Is there a way we could see the interest? Could we put it as a poll in the one section of member input?
They're talking ghey and you mention polls, you can't make this shit up, priceless!
'crackup' 'worship' 'clap'
ok, where is the white flag.....
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To all of my brothers,
I have been trying different things to help me sleep during these very rough first couple of weeks. I go to the gym and lift weights, I go for lots of walks, I work on my motorcycle, and I have even changed my diet. All of things have helped out some what. The diet thing and going to the gm have helped the most in not gaining weight while I quit, but nothing has really helped the sleeping issue. I went to Super Supplements and was talking with the girls there about what I could take that would help me sleep but be non habit forming and maybe help my body recover from the workouts. I was given a product call ZMA (zinc magnesium and vitiam B). I have been taking it at night and I have had better sleep. This is only my exprience but if you are struggling to sleep try it. I have also noticed that my legs are not quite ase restless when I take the ZMA
I'm on day 12 of my quit, and for some damn reason I have absolutely no ambition to work out or run. Kind of pisses me off because I wanted to use workouts as a way to pass the quit time, but one thing at a time I guess. I usually hit the gym 4-5 days a week and run 12-15 miles a week, but not since the quit started. I suppose I'll force the issue for myself soon and start taking advantage of the nic free life. Any thoughts?
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To all of my brothers,
I have been trying different things to help me sleep during these very rough first couple of weeks. I go to the gym and lift weights, I go for lots of walks, I work on my motorcycle, and I have even changed my diet. All of things have helped out some what. The diet thing and going to the gm have helped the most in not gaining weight while I quit, but nothing has really helped the sleeping issue. I went to Super Supplements and was talking with the girls there about what I could take that would help me sleep but be non habit forming and maybe help my body recover from the workouts. I was given a product call ZMA (zinc magnesium and vitiam B). I have been taking it at night and I have had better sleep. This is only my exprience but if you are struggling to sleep try it. I have also noticed that my legs are not quite ase restless when I take the ZMA
I'm on day 12 of my quit, and for some damn reason I have absolutely no ambition to work out or run. Kind of pisses me off because I wanted to use workouts as a way to pass the quit time, but one thing at a time I guess. I usually hit the gym 4-5 days a week and run 12-15 miles a week, but not since the quit started. I suppose I'll force the issue for myself soon and start taking advantage of the nic free life. Any thoughts?
Probably not what you want to hear, because we all want immediate solutions:
Like all things good and bad, this too shall pass.
Hang on. It's worth it.
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To all of my brothers,
I have been trying different things to help me sleep during these very rough first couple of weeks. I go to the gym and lift weights, I go for lots of walks, I work on my motorcycle, and I have even changed my diet. All of things have helped out some what. The diet thing and going to the gm have helped the most in not gaining weight while I quit, but nothing has really helped the sleeping issue. I went to Super Supplements and was talking with the girls there about what I could take that would help me sleep but be non habit forming and maybe help my body recover from the workouts. I was given a product call ZMA (zinc magnesium and vitiam B). I have been taking it at night and I have had better sleep. This is only my exprience but if you are struggling to sleep try it. I have also noticed that my legs are not quite ase restless when I take the ZMA
I'm on day 12 of my quit, and for some damn reason I have absolutely no ambition to work out or run. Kind of pisses me off because I wanted to use workouts as a way to pass the quit time, but one thing at a time I guess. I usually hit the gym 4-5 days a week and run 12-15 miles a week, but not since the quit started. I suppose I'll force the issue for myself soon and start taking advantage of the nic free life. Any thoughts?
Probably not what you want to hear, because we all want immediate solutions:
Like all things good and bad, this too shall pass.
Hang on. It's worth it.
Do whatever it takes to get free of that crap. If you don't want to work out, go ride that motorcycle. Going out for ride helped me a lot and still does whe I feel down or I'm in a bad mood. Congrats on a a great decision. You can DO this! a day at a time.
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I got a suggestion and wondered if anyone had ever thought of it. Would there be a 'niche' to take all of the Words of Wisdom, and a few other items of humor and such and maybe get them bound and available at the KTC Store?
Just thinking there is so much good information.....
If there's interest in this I'm happy to make it available on the store.
Dear Lord, I can see it now...
"Behind the Ghey Door" A Resource For Non-Heterosexuals Trying to Quit Tobacco use.
Forward by gmann.
"Rear by NOLAQ."
Both of you guys on the cover. 'crackup' 'crackup'
Ok didn't know if I should continue, as one was laughing my ass off so hard.
but I was thinking if one would agree and would call it along the lines of Cliff Notes....., or something of the like, and ask Big Brother Jack if he would write an introduction...
Is there a way we could see the interest? Could we put it as a poll in the one section of member input?
They're talking ghey and you mention polls, you can't make this shit up, priceless!
'crackup' 'worship' 'clap'
ok, where is the white flag.....
You could call it "Shades of Ghey"
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We will most likely hit 13,000 members today. 'party2'
My heartfelt thanks to those that founded the site, those that keep this place going each day, and all of you who have stopped and helped someone quit and stay that way.
Proud to be quit with you all,
Dale
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We will most likely hit 13,000 members today. 'party2'Â
My heartfelt thanks to those that founded the site, those that keep this place going each day, and all of you who have stopped and helped someone quit and stay that way.
Proud to be quit with you all,
Dale
Congratulations KTC!!
'clap'
Celebrate by helping someone quit today!!!
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We will most likely hit 13,000 members today. 'party2'Â
My heartfelt thanks to those that founded the site, those that keep this place going each day, and all of you who have stopped and helped someone quit and stay that way.
Proud to be quit with you all,
Dale
Congratulations KTC!!
'clap'
Celebrate by helping someone quit today!!!
thirteen thousand raging addicts 'Cheers'
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We will most likely hit 13,000 members today. 'party2'Â
My heartfelt thanks to those that founded the site, those that keep this place going each day, and all of you who have stopped and helped someone quit and stay that way.
Proud to be quit with you all,
Dale
Congratulations KTC!!
'clap'
Celebrate by helping someone quit today!!!
thirteen thousand raging addicts 'Cheers'
Member 13,000 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?act=Msg&CODE=4&MID=16343)
Click the above link to send him a welcoming PM.
No, Kdip, you can't have a trophy.
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I must say this is the oddest forum I've ever joined... all the discussions in one GIANT thread... you can't start your own topic.. what gives?
BYW, day two of my journey.
steve
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I must say this is the oddest forum I've ever joined... all the discussions in one GIANT thread... you can't start your own topic.. what gives?
BYW, day two of my journey.
steve
If you haven't already, you can start an intro thread and say what you like. There are also plenty of topics in wildcard and sports. If you want to talk about something you don't see a thread for, just ask and we'll see what we can do.
Most important thing right now (day 2) is posting roll, keeping your word and spending as much time as you can reading this website.
Yell if you need anything.
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I must say this is the oddest forum I've ever joined... all the discussions in one GIANT thread... you can't start your own topic.. what gives?
BYW, day two of my journey.Â
steve
Thanks! So far, so good!
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New blog post: Looking To Quit Dipping? Here's 13,000 People To Help!
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/09/look ... e-to-help/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/09/looking-to-quit-dipping-heres-13000-people-to-help/)
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New blog post: Looking To Quit Dipping? Here's 13,000 People To Help!
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/09/look ... e-to-help/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/09/looking-to-quit-dipping-heres-13000-people-to-help/)
Just curious, how many active quitters are there on any given day?
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New blog post:Â Looking To Quit Dipping? Here's 13,000 People To Help!
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/09/look ... e-to-help/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/09/looking-to-quit-dipping-heres-13000-people-to-help/)
Just curious, how many active quitters are there on any given day?
How are you defining "active"? Number of people on the site? Number of people posting roll?
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New blog post:Â Looking To Quit Dipping? Here's 13,000 People To Help!
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/09/look ... e-to-help/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/09/looking-to-quit-dipping-heres-13000-people-to-help/)
Just curious, how many active quitters are there on any given day?
How are you defining "active"? Number of people on the site? Number of people posting roll?
those posting roll on a semi-regular basis.
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New blog post:Â Looking To Quit Dipping? Here's 13,000 People To Help!
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/09/look ... e-to-help/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/09/looking-to-quit-dipping-heres-13000-people-to-help/)
Just curious, how many active quitters are there on any given day?
How are you defining "active"? Number of people on the site? Number of people posting roll?
those posting roll on a semi-regular basis.
It's been a while since I've gone through and counted up roll calls. But I can tell you that the forums are running at about 8,000 unique visitors per month this year.
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New blog post:Â Looking To Quit Dipping? Here's 13,000 People To Help!
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/09/look ... e-to-help/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/09/looking-to-quit-dipping-heres-13000-people-to-help/)
Just curious, how many active quitters are there on any given day?
How are you defining "active"? Number of people on the site? Number of people posting roll?
those posting roll on a semi-regular basis.
It's been a while since I've gone through and counted up roll calls. But I can tell you that the forums are running at about 8,000 unique visitors per month this year.
Wow! That is awesome.
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New blog post: The War On Drugs Has Failed - An Infographic
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/09/the- ... fographic/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/09/the-war-on-drugs-has-failed-an-infographic/)
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New blog post:Â The War On Drugs Has Failed - An Infographic
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/09/the- ... fographic/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/09/the-war-on-drugs-has-failed-an-infographic/)
First they show a bar chart and a graph that contradict each other in whether high school senior illegal drug use has gone up or down. Then they state that legal drugs, Tobacco and Alcohol, kill more people than illegal drugs. Then conclude the war on illegal drugs has failed? Are they trying to make a case to legalize everything? If so they screwed it up royally by pointing out legal drugs kill more people.
I think the guys who made the advertisement were on drugs.
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Im not sure where to post this but i'm thinking of quiting and to be honest i'm nervous as clinton in church. ive never tried to quit before but im sick of always having to $4 at a time bc i left a can at home or somewhere and need one, i spend a ton of money a year on it as it is. i never really thought about alot of the things i put myself through just because i dip. i just dont want to start and then mess up or not be able to finish. any feedback would be helpful.
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Im not sure where to post this but i'm thinking of quiting and to be honest i'm nervous as clinton in church. ive never tried to quit before but im sick of always having to $4 at a time bc i left a can at home or somewhere and need one, i spend a ton of money a year on it as it is. i never really thought about alot of the things i put myself through just because i dip. i just dont want to start and then mess up or not be able to finish. any feedback would be helpful.
Strong -
You're in the right place if you want to quit. The folks here will help you every step of the way. And don't worry about being scared... I was scared shitless when I first quit. We won't lie to you and tell you it's easy. We won't coddle you. This will be the most difficult thing that you will ever do in your life.
You'll want to give up.
You'll feel like shit.
You'll hate us.
You'll hate your world.
And then... you'll be quit. And the fog will lift, the craves will decrease, and you will gain a level of freedom that you haven't had in years (decades?). Like I said, no one will ever tell you it's easy, but we WILL tell you the truth... that the freedom you gain is 100% worth all of the blood, sweat and tears you put into it.
Ask anyone here... they'll echo what I'm saying.
As for concrete steps? Go here: index.php?showtopic=7170 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=7170) Introduce yourself, and post roll. It's your daily promise that you won't dip today. That's it. We'll deal with tomorrow when we get there.
Once you've done that... read. Read EVERYTHING. Pick a group, start from the beginning and read everything. Read the welcome center, read the main site. You've stumbled across the greatest quitting tool available.
Welcome to the rest of your life... let me know how I can help.
chewie
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Im not sure where to post this but i'm thinking of quiting and to be honest i'm nervous as clinton in church. ive never tried to quit before but im sick of always having to $4 at a time bc i left a can at home or somewhere and need one, i spend a ton of money a year on it as it is. i never really thought about alot of the things i put myself through just because i dip. i just dont want to start and then mess up or not be able to finish. any feedback would be helpful.
Strong -
You're in the right place if you want to quit. The folks here will help you every step of the way. And don't worry about being scared... I was scared shitless when I first quit. We won't lie to you and tell you it's easy. We won't coddle you. This will be the most difficult thing that you will ever do in your life.
You'll want to give up.
You'll feel like shit.
You'll hate us.
You'll hate your world.
And then... you'll be quit. And the fog will lift, the craves will decrease, and you will gain a level of freedom that you haven't had in years (decades?). Like I said, no one will ever tell you it's easy, but we WILL tell you the truth... that the freedom you gain is 100% worth all of the blood, sweat and tears you put into it.
Ask anyone here... they'll echo what I'm saying.
As for concrete steps? Go here: index.php?showtopic=7170 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=7170) Introduce yourself, and post roll. It's your daily promise that you won't dip today. That's it. We'll deal with tomorrow when we get there.
Once you've done that... read. Read EVERYTHING. Pick a group, start from the beginning and read everything. Read the welcome center, read the main site. You've stumbled across the greatest quitting tool available.
Welcome to the rest of your life... let me know how I can help.
chewie
AMEN.
He speaks the truth.
you can do this.
Razd -Day-1110-
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Copehater 700 - yes - I have time for Quitting.
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Im not sure where to post this but i'm thinking of quiting and to be honest i'm nervous as clinton in church. ive never tried to quit before but im sick of always having to $4 at a time bc i left a can at home or somewhere and need one, i spend a ton of money a year on it as it is. i never really thought about alot of the things i put myself through just because i dip. i just dont want to start and then mess up or not be able to finish. any feedback would be helpful.
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You're in the right place if you want to quit. The folks here will help you every step of the way. And don't worry about being scared... I was scared shitless when I first quit. We won't lie to you and tell you it's easy. We won't coddle you. This will be the most difficult thing that you will ever do in your life.
You'll want to give up.
You'll feel like shit.
You'll hate us.
You'll hate your world.
And then... you'll be quit. And the fog will lift, the craves will decrease, and you will gain a level of freedom that you haven't had in years (decades?). Like I said, no one will ever tell you it's easy, but we WILL tell you the truth... that the freedom you gain is 100% worth all of the blood, sweat and tears you put into it.
Ask anyone here... they'll echo what I'm saying.
As for concrete steps? Go here: index.php?showtopic=7170 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=7170) Introduce yourself, and post roll. It's your daily promise that you won't dip today. That's it. We'll deal with tomorrow when we get there.
Once you've done that... read. Read EVERYTHING. Pick a group, start from the beginning and read everything. Read the welcome center, read the main site. You've stumbled across the greatest quitting tool available.
Welcome to the rest of your life... let me know how I can help.
chewie
AMEN.
He speaks the truth.
you can do this.
Razd -Day-1110-
Looks like strong was distracted by a hummer under the desk provided by the toothless nic bitch. Being scared of failing is ok, convincing yourself that you are going to fail is not. You need to realize that stuff was killing you. Get mad at it. Hate it. Hate it with a vengeance. You'll realize that hate will serve you well down the road.
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I have been chewing the bear for 19 years, including today and I plan on today being my last day. Which is why I am here. I have never been able to quit on my own and have come here for the community support of people who have succeded in ridding there lives of this shit.
Where do i get started? 100 days would be in January so do i start roll tomorrow here? index.php?showtopic=7170 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=7170)
Also, I have never had a problem with the loss of nicotine. I have serious problems with the oral addiction. In the past I have tried gum, seeds, toothpicks, etc... So im looking for help in that area. If you used something to replace the oral fixation what was it?
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I have been chewing the bear for 19 years, including today and I plan on today being my last day. Which is why I am here. I have never been able to quit on my own and have come here for the community support of people who have succeded in ridding there lives of this shit.
Where do i get started? 100 days would be in January so do i start roll tomorrow here? index.php?showtopic=7170 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=7170)
Also, I have never had a problem with the loss of nicotine. I have serious problems with the oral addiction. In the past I have tried gum, seeds, toothpicks, etc... So im looking for help in that area. If you used something to replace the oral fixation what was it?
Hey - if you are quit your day 1 is NOW. Go ahead into the Jan13 quit group (you were correct on this) and post your day.
Also jump into the intro thread and create a topic for yourself. Introduce and tell your story as you will find those who are similar will come to you offering help. That intro thread then can be your book to keep throughout your quit.
get ready for the wild ride, and welcome to the best decision of your life.
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Really liking the flaming Halloween banner!!! :D
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Really liking the flaming Halloween banner!!! :D
its pretty sweet looking
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Really liking the flaming Halloween banner!!! :D
its pretty sweet looking
I like it too Roam! Very cool.
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Hey folks... I'm working on a KTC project where I need some input from current/active duty military folks. Please email me if you'd be interesting in lending a hand. Just need a bit of your time.
Please spread the word to other military folks on the site.Â
Thanks,
chewie
chewie@killthecan.org (http://mailto:chewie@killthecan.org)
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I believe June 2010 now has the most posts of any quit group.
That is all.
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Hey folks... I'm working on a KTC project where I need some input from current/active duty military folks. Please email me if you'd be interesting in lending a hand. Just need a bit of your time.
Please spread the word to other military folks on the site.Â
Thanks,
chewie
chewie@killthecan.org (http://mailto:chewie@killthecan.org)
Thanks to NOLAQ for posting this and thanks to everyone that has reached out to me. Much appreciated. Could be HUGE for the site!
If there are any other former / current military folks who'd like to lend a hand please let me know!
chewie@killthecan.org (http://mailto:chewie@killthecan.org)
Thanks again!
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I have been chewing the bear for 19 years, including today and I plan on today being my last day. Which is why I am here. I have never been able to quit on my own and have come here for the community support of people who have succeded in ridding there lives of this shit.
Where do i get started? 100 days would be in January so do i start roll tomorrow here? index.php?showtopic=7170 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=7170)
Also, I have never had a problem with the loss of nicotine. I have serious problems with the oral addiction. In the past I have tried gum, seeds, toothpicks, etc... So im looking for help in that area. If you used something to replace the oral fixation what was it?
I'm newer than you but welcome rbaur. I just wanted to answer your last words regarding replacing chew so to speak. I use Smokey Mountain herbal snuff, I assume it's Ok as there is a link from the main page to herbal chew sites. Good times ahead, stay strong and together we win. ScottG
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New blog post: Marc Lydie – A Testimonial From A Quitter’s Wife
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/10/marc ... ters-wife/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/10/marc-lydie-a-testimonial-from-a-quitters-wife/)
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New blog post: Marc Lydie – A Testimonial From A Quitter’s Wife
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/10/marc ... ters-wife/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/10/marc-lydie-a-testimonial-from-a-quitters-wife/)
Great Read !!
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I haven't dipped so far today. I have been using for 30 years and need all the help I can get.
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I haven't dipped so far today. I have been using for 30 years and need all the help I can get.
You are in the right place my man!
Check the upper left hand side of the screen, in orange letters, "WELCOME CENTER".
Read up on how to join up and find your group. Start posting roll. Read all you can on here.
If you have any questions or need help, just PM me!
Welcome aboard! Get ready for a wild ride!
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The pink ribbon on top of the Halloween banner is a nice touch.
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The pink ribbon on top of the Halloween banner is a nice touch.
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The pink ribbon on top of the Halloween banner is a nice touch.
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x3 well done
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The pink ribbon on top of the Halloween banner is a nice touch.
x2
x3 well done
looks good!
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The pink ribbon on top of the Halloween banner is a nice touch.
x2
x3 well done
looks good!
Very good!
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Ive been off the can for 36 days. I know that sounds like a short time to some, and a long time to those just now starting out. To me it seems like, well... 36 days. From everything I read, it says my body should have let go of this physical addiction. My questions is, Why do I feel so anxious in the evenings? My mornings are fine. I drink coffee and drive to work. I Eat lunch, chew some gum, work till the end of the day, and drive home. Sure I have a few cravings during the day, but nothing that doesn't pass quickly. But after I eat dinner and sit down, and as the night goes on, I feel like I'm slowly being wound up. I slowly become anxious, and I want a dip. Eventually I go to bed early, and when the morning comes it's like a reset button has been pressed, and the anxiety is gone. But the next evening is the same thing. Any of you guys experience this?
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Ive been off the can for 36 days. I know that sounds like a short time to some, and a long time to those just now starting out. To me it seems like, well... 36 days. From everything I read, it says my body should have let go of this physical addiction. My questions is, Why do I feel so anxious in the evenings? My mornings are fine. I drink coffee and drive to work. I Eat lunch, chew some gum, work till the end of the day, and drive home. Sure I have a few cravings during the day, but nothing that doesn't pass quickly. But after I eat dinner and sit down, and as the night goes on, I feel like I'm slowly being wound up. I slowly become anxious, and I want a dip. Eventually I go to bed early, and when the morning comes it's like a reset button has been pressed, and the anxiety is gone. But the next evening is the same thing. Any of you guys experience this?
Its just what your mind is used to, the routine, keep beating it back.
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Ive been off the can for 36 days. I know that sounds like a short time to some, and a long time to those just now starting out. To me it seems like, well... 36 days. From everything I read, it says my body should have let go of this physical addiction. My questions is, Why do I feel so anxious in the evenings? My mornings are fine. I drink coffee and drive to work. I Eat lunch, chew some gum, work till the end of the day, and drive home. Sure I have a few cravings during the day, but nothing that doesn't pass quickly. But after I eat dinner and sit down, and as the night goes on, I feel like I'm slowly being wound up. I slowly become anxious, and I want a dip. Eventually I go to bed early, and when the morning comes it's like a reset button has been pressed, and the anxiety is gone. But the next evening is the same thing. Any of you guys experience this?
Its just what your mind is used to, the routine, keep beating it back.
Where'd you read that physical addiction is done at thirty days? Years of using a neurotoxin literally rewires the neural network in your brain. Be patient. A month of quit can't undo all of that.
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My dip addiction (grizz straight, skoal mint) started in boarding school, and has continued thru college. I'm 21 now and haven't had a lip in 3 days. My first day off of it I had a huge outburst with my mother and said some really horrible things. Thats when I decided to get some nicotine gum to ease my way into this. I kind of feel like Im just digging myself a hole with the gum, but I have a job and I go to school, cant afford to be crazy. Any advice. this sucks. the other day I took the leaves out of a green tea pouch and added some cayenne pepper and packed a lip, just to get through MNF.
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My dip addiction (grizz straight, skoal mint) started in boarding school, and has continued thru college. I'm 21 now and haven't had a lip in 3 days. My first day off of it I had a huge outburst with my mother and said some really horrible things. Thats when I decided to get some nicotine gum to ease my way into this. I kind of feel like Im just digging myself a hole with the gum, but I have a job and I go to school, cant afford to be crazy. Any advice. this sucks. the other day I took the leaves out of a green tea pouch and added some cayenne pepper and packed a lip, just to get through MNF.
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My dip addiction (grizz straight, skoal mint) started in boarding school, and has continued thru college. I'm 21 now and haven't had a lip in 3 days. My first day off of it I had a huge outburst with my mother and said some really horrible things. Thats when I decided to get some nicotine gum to ease my way into this. I kind of feel like Im just digging myself a hole with the gum, but I have a job and I go to school, cant afford to be crazy. Any advice. this sucks. the other day I took the leaves out of a green tea pouch and added some cayenne pepper and packed a lip, just to get through MNF.
Good decision on kicking your nicotine habit to the curb. This site can help. There are no short cuts, but here are some links that will help you navigate this site. Rule number one, this is a no nicotine site, period, end of story.
Biggest thing to do is get acquainted with this site. Highly recommend you go here: WELCOME CENTER (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13)
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Today is support the September '05 FOCKERS (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=9) day. Sponsored by the May 2011 3-ballers (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=4289). Please stop in and post roll with a few of our quit forefathers today.
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Today I'm 42 days quit it's been a wild ride but I know it's worth it! I have my good and bad days it's been the hardest thing I've ever done. I still feel like I'm in a daze somedays and even
Have that voice in my head saying go buy a can asshole it's the weekend. But of course it's not gonna happen. Just wanted to post some feelings fellas. So enjoy the weekend and hook em horns!
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Today I'm 42 days quit it's been a wild ride but I know it's worth it! I have my good and bad days it's been the hardest thing I've ever done. I still feel like I'm in a daze somedays and even
Have that voice in my head saying go buy a can asshole it's the weekend. But of course it's not gonna happen. Just wanted to post some feelings fellas. So enjoy the weekend and hook em horns!
Stay the course PQ. It gets MUCH better - and freedom is awesome.
Proud to be quit with you.
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Today I'm 42 days quit it's been a wild ride but I know it's worth it! I have my good and bad days it's been the hardest thing I've ever done. I still feel like I'm in a daze somedays and even
Have that voice in my head saying go buy a can asshole it's the weekend. But of course it's not gonna happen. Just wanted to post some feelings fellas. So enjoy the weekend and hook em horns!
Stay the course PQ. It gets MUCH better - and freedom is awesome.
Proud to be quit with you.
Hang in there bro. There will always be good and bad days. It's called life.
It is how you deal with life that matters!!!
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Today I'm 42 days quit it's been a wild ride but I know it's worth it! I have my good and bad days it's been the hardest thing I've ever done. I still feel like I'm in a daze somedays and even
Have that voice in my head saying go buy a can asshole it's the weekend. But of course it's not gonna happen. Just wanted to post some feelings fellas. So enjoy the weekend and hook em horns!
Stay the course PQ. It gets MUCH better - and freedom is awesome.
Proud to be quit with you.
Hang in there bro. There will always be good and bad days. It's called life.
It is how you deal with life that matters!!!
Hey, PQ, this is a battle we fight every day, but with each daily victory our Quits get stronger. There will come a time down the road when you hardly even think of dip.
Your life is worth the struggle!
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Guys - had a dream last night that I caved. Wow!!! So real... I really thought I had caved when I woke up this morning. I'm glad to say it was only a dream!!! Anyone else have dreams like that??
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Guys - had a dream last night that I caved. Wow!!! So real... I really thought I had caved when I woke up this morning. I'm glad to say it was only a dream!!! Anyone else have dreams like that??
Not alone on this, I had one earlier this week on day 292. Banded together we can fight the nic bitch all day long so she tries to attack us when we're sleeping.
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Guys - had a dream last night that I caved. Wow!!! So real... I really thought I had caved when I woke up this morning. I'm glad to say it was only a dream!!! Anyone else have dreams like that??
Not alone on this, I had one earlier this week on day 292. Banded together we can fight the nic bitch all day long so she tries to attack us when we're sleeping.
Dip dreams suck and they can be incredibly realistic. Every quitter experiences them to one degree or another. Here's the truth to remember: dreams come and go; cancer usually doesn't.
Having a dip dream means you're winning! 'lift'
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Guys - had a dream last night that I caved. Wow!!! So real... I really thought I had caved when I woke up this morning. I'm glad to say it was only a dream!!! Anyone else have dreams like that??
Not alone on this, I had one earlier this week on day 292. Banded together we can fight the nic bitch all day long so she tries to attack us when we're sleeping.
Dip dreams suck and they can be incredibly realistic. Every quitter experiences them to one degree or another. Here's the truth to remember: dreams come and go; cancer usually doesn't.
Having a dip dream means you're winning! 'lift'
I have been having a LOT of these lately, I only had one on my way to hof, makes me wonder what my subconscious is tying to do to me!
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Guys - had a dream last night that I caved. Wow!!! So real... I really thought I had caved when I woke up this morning. I'm glad to say it was only a dream!!! Anyone else have dreams like that??
Not alone on this, I had one earlier this week on day 292. Banded together we can fight the nic bitch all day long so she tries to attack us when we're sleeping.
Dip dreams suck and they can be incredibly realistic. Every quitter experiences them to one degree or another. Here's the truth to remember: dreams come and go; cancer usually doesn't.
Having a dip dream means you're winning! 'lift'
I have been having a LOT of these lately, I only had one on my way to hof, makes me wonder what my subconscious is tying to do to me!
I had the most realistic (scare the shit out of me) dip dream todate this week at 200 days! Woke up sweeping my mouth for a dip. I actually felt chew in there when I woke up but there was none!!
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Guys - had a dream last night that I caved. Wow!!! So real... I really thought I had caved when I woke up this morning. I'm glad to say it was only a dream!!! Anyone else have dreams like that??
Not alone on this, I had one earlier this week on day 292. Banded together we can fight the nic bitch all day long so she tries to attack us when we're sleeping.
Dip dreams suck and they can be incredibly realistic. Every quitter experiences them to one degree or another. Here's the truth to remember: dreams come and go; cancer usually doesn't.
Having a dip dream means you're winning! 'lift'
I have been having a LOT of these lately, I only had one on my way to hof, makes me wonder what my subconscious is tying to do to me!
I had the most realistic (scare the shit out of me) dip dream todate this week at 200 days! Woke up sweeping my mouth for a dip. I actually felt chew in there when I woke up but there was none!!
Not uncommon. I had one last week and I am at 1,089 days crazy shit. Tobacco is some evil shit. Filled with tons of chemicals you body should never have to try and process. Dip dreams just mean you are winning and healing...
Keep fighting.
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Guys - had a dream last night that I caved. Wow!!! So real... I really thought I had caved when I woke up this morning. I'm glad to say it was only a dream!!! Anyone else have dreams like that??
Not alone on this, I had one earlier this week on day 292. Banded together we can fight the nic bitch all day long so she tries to attack us when we're sleeping.
Dip dreams suck and they can be incredibly realistic. Every quitter experiences them to one degree or another. Here's the truth to remember: dreams come and go; cancer usually doesn't.
Having a dip dream means you're winning! 'lift'
I have been having a LOT of these lately, I only had one on my way to hof, makes me wonder what my subconscious is tying to do to me!
I had the most realistic (scare the shit out of me) dip dream todate this week at 200 days! Woke up sweeping my mouth for a dip. I actually felt chew in there when I woke up but there was none!!
Not uncommon. I had one last week and I am at 1,089 days crazy shit. Tobacco is some evil shit. Filled with tons of chemicals you body should never have to try and process. Dip dreams just mean you are winning and healing...
Keep fighting.
Yep... Definitely a common occurrence. I haven't had one in a while but they're out there. The good thing is that a) they're just dreams and B) they're a good reminder that we're always addicts.
http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/08/slee ... tting-dip/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/08/sleep-issues-when-quitting-dip/)
Chewie
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Guys - had a dream last night that I caved. Wow!!! So real... I really thought I had caved when I woke up this morning. I'm glad to say it was only a dream!!! Anyone else have dreams like that??
Not alone on this, I had one earlier this week on day 292. Banded together we can fight the nic bitch all day long so she tries to attack us when we're sleeping.
Dip dreams suck and they can be incredibly realistic. Every quitter experiences them to one degree or another. Here's the truth to remember: dreams come and go; cancer usually doesn't.
Having a dip dream means you're winning! 'lift'
I have been having a LOT of these lately, I only had one on my way to hof, makes me wonder what my subconscious is tying to do to me!
I had the most realistic (scare the shit out of me) dip dream todate this week at 200 days! Woke up sweeping my mouth for a dip. I actually felt chew in there when I woke up but there was none!!
Not uncommon. I had one last week and I am at 1,089 days crazy shit. Tobacco is some evil shit. Filled with tons of chemicals you body should never have to try and process. Dip dreams just mean you are winning and healing...
Keep fighting.
Yep... Definitely a common occurrence. I haven't had one in a while but they're out there. The good thing is that a) they're just dreams and B) they're a good reminder that we're always addicts.
http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/08/slee ... tting-dip/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/08/sleep-issues-when-quitting-dip/)
Chewie
Have only had two dip dreams so far. The first scared me bad. Woke up feeling devastated (means I'm committed) and the second one had me feeling pissed as hell that I would have to go through the fog again. Don't matter none, I'm still Quit and winning.
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I finally feeling more comfortable with my quit after 200 days but I know I'm still a weak bitch! Still consider myself a newbie. I appreciate so much the support and brotherhood of KTC. That being said I have a question that will probably cause a shit storm against me but it needs to be explained.
I've watched retreads return after caving from 100's of days of quit and others cave after only a few days of quit. Many people with visions of "magic quit" and fade away as reality sets in in the first week or two. I think we all recognize what a bitch it is to quit and as we win each day we hate seeing caves even more! I still remember my first experience seeing someone cave and how I felt about the tough love that was dealt out! "Remember that Bruce?" Lol. We also recognize the bullshit talk of addict. Pointing out and holding Every weak ass caver responsible for their actions is essential.
Now my question: "Why do some cavers get so much shit that they leave because they are left thinking that they will never be accepted by KTC again, and other cavers come back and are given a high 5 for returning." Why should a caver after 2 days be given more shit than someone that caves after 300 - 400 days or more? The first is just getting started and the seasoned quitter has tools. I think the thing that bothers me the most is that often the inequitable treatment is from mods and admins. I hope that I'm just a little skewed in my view because of a couple run-ins. I'm seriously concerned about this issue and am open to criticism and being set straight.
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I finally feeling more comfortable with my quit after 200 days but I know I'm still a weak bitch! Still consider myself a newbie. I appreciate so much the support and brotherhood of KTC. That being said I have a question that will probably cause a shit storm against me but it needs to be explained.
I've watched retreads return after caving from 100's of days of quit and others cave after only a few days of quit. Many people with visions of "magic quit" and fade away as reality sets in in the first week or two. I think we all recognize what a bitch it is to quit and as we win each day we hate seeing caves even more! I still remember my first experience seeing someone cave and how I felt about the tough love that was dealt out! "Remember that Bruce?" Lol. We also recognize the bullshit talk of addict. Pointing out and holding Every weak ass caver responsible for their actions is essential.
Now my question: "Why do some cavers get so much shit that they leave because they are left thinking that they will never be accepted by KTC again, and other cavers come back and are given a high 5 for returning." Why should a caver after 2 days be given more shit than someone that caves after 300 - 400 days or more? The first is just getting started and the seasoned quitter has tools. I think the thing that bothers me the most is that often the inequitable treatment is from mods and admins. I hope that I'm just a little skewed in my view because of a couple run-ins. I'm seriously concerned about this issue and am open to criticism and being set straight.
My two cents:
All of us are addicts and as such, have similar reactions, excuses and behaviors.
That being said, all of us come from differing stock. Meaning that yes we are all addicts but I think there are degrees of addiction. Some are extreme while others may not be so extremely addicted.
Some of us have better stamina to endure and fight while others don't.
I think that there are patterns to recognize but one caver isn't the same as another.
Maybe guidelines of how to treat a caver is good but there should be a variance of treatment tailored to the caver. Like raising kids. Motivation comes from within. How do you trigger that motivation?
This site is quit or split. Our response to cavers should get them committed to the plan or out and no longer detractor.
We want everyone to quit for life but not everyone will. If shitty treatment or encouraging treatment is needed....go with your gut if your intention is to get them to make a promise to quit. If they get offended, probably wanted an excuse to dip.
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I finally feeling more comfortable with my quit after 200 days but I know I'm still a weak bitch! Still consider myself a newbie. I appreciate so much the support and brotherhood of KTC. That being said I have a question that will probably cause a shit storm against me but it needs to be explained.
I've watched retreads return after caving from 100's of days of quit and others cave after only a few days of quit. Many people with visions of "magic quit" and fade away as reality sets in in the first week or two. I think we all recognize what a bitch it is to quit and as we win each day we hate seeing caves even more! I still remember my first experience seeing someone cave and how I felt about the tough love that was dealt out! "Remember that Bruce?" Lol. We also recognize the bullshit talk of addict. Pointing out and holding Every weak ass caver responsible for their actions is essential.
Now my question: "Why do some cavers get so much shit that they leave because they are left thinking that they will never be accepted by KTC again, and other cavers come back and are given a high 5 for returning." Why should a caver after 2 days be given more shit than someone that caves after 300 - 400 days or more? The first is just getting started and the seasoned quitter has tools. I think the thing that bothers me the most is that often the inequitable treatment is from mods and admins. I hope that I'm just a little skewed in my view because of a couple run-ins. I'm seriously concerned about this issue and am open to criticism and being set straight.
My two cents:
All of us are addicts and as such, have similar reactions, excuses and behaviors.
That being said, all of us come from differing stock. Meaning that yes we are all addicts but I think there are degrees of addiction. Some are extreme while others may not be so extremely addicted.
Some of us have better stamina to endure and fight while others don't.
I think that there are patterns to recognize but one caver isn't the same as another.
Maybe guidelines of how to treat a caver is good but there should be a variance of treatment tailored to the caver. Like raising kids. Motivation comes from within. How do you trigger that motivation?
This site is quit or split. Our response to cavers should get them committed to the plan or out and no longer detractor.
We want everyone to quit for life but not everyone will. If shitty treatment or encouraging treatment is needed....go with your gut if your intention is to get them to make a promise to quit. If they get offended, probably wanted an excuse to dip.
I can't speak for other mods/admins so I'll speak for ol Chewie...
For me it comes down to investment. When someone comes here, "tries" and fails, you can ALMOST give them a pass (or at the very least give them a wee bit of sympathy) cause they don't REALLY understand the system or what they're fighting against.
When a long time quitter caves, or worse yet, caves MULTIPLE times, this really pisses me off. Cause theoretically, they KNOW the system, KNOW what they're up against and have essentially said fuck it.
Don't get me wrong, I get pissed at each and every cave, but folks who think "they can have just one" or "think they've got it beat" after a couple of hundred (or thousand) days REALLY piss me off.
Not only that, but when I've personally invested in a quitter (shared phone number, talked on the phone, texted, emailed, PMd, etc.) it really hurts when they fail. I take it personally, and as such, when/if they come back I REALLY let them have it. I'm guessing it's similar with other mods/admins. So what you're seeing in public (the bashing) may just be PART of the story. You haven't seen the blood, sweat and tears that mod/admin has put into a fellow quitter. You haven't seen the heartache that mod/admin has felt when his brother let him down.
Or maybe the mods admins are just assholes... * shrugs *
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I finally feeling more comfortable with my quit after 200 days but I know I'm still a weak bitch! Still consider myself a newbie. I appreciate so much the support and brotherhood of KTC. That being said I have a question that will probably cause a shit storm against me but it needs to be explained.
I've watched retreads return after caving from 100's of days of quit and others cave after only a few days of quit. Many people with visions of "magic quit" and fade away as reality sets in in the first week or two. I think we all recognize what a bitch it is to quit and as we win each day we hate seeing caves even more! I still remember my first experience seeing someone cave and how I felt about the tough love that was dealt out! "Remember that Bruce?" Lol. We also recognize the bullshit talk of addict. Pointing out and holding Every weak ass caver responsible for their actions is essential.
Now my question: "Why do some cavers get so much shit that they leave because they are left thinking that they will never be accepted by KTC again, and other cavers come back and are given a high 5 for returning." Why should a caver after 2 days be given more shit than someone that caves after 300 - 400 days or more? The first is just getting started and the seasoned quitter has tools. I think the thing that bothers me the most is that often the inequitable treatment is from mods and admins. I hope that I'm just a little skewed in my view because of a couple run-ins. I'm seriously concerned about this issue and am open to criticism and being set straight.
My two cents:
All of us are addicts and as such, have similar reactions, excuses and behaviors.
That being said, all of us come from differing stock. Meaning that yes we are all addicts but I think there are degrees of addiction. Some are extreme while others may not be so extremely addicted.
Some of us have better stamina to endure and fight while others don't.
I think that there are patterns to recognize but one caver isn't the same as another.
Maybe guidelines of how to treat a caver is good but there should be a variance of treatment tailored to the caver. Like raising kids. Motivation comes from within. How do you trigger that motivation?
This site is quit or split. Our response to cavers should get them committed to the plan or out and no longer detractor.
We want everyone to quit for life but not everyone will. If shitty treatment or encouraging treatment is needed....go with your gut if your intention is to get them to make a promise to quit. If they get offended, probably wanted an excuse to dip.
I can't speak for other mods/admins so I'll speak for ol Chewie...
For me it comes down to investment. When someone comes here, "tries" and fails, you can ALMOST give them a pass (or at the very least give them a wee bit of sympathy) cause they don't REALLY understand the system or what they're fighting against.
When a long time quitter caves, or worse yet, caves MULTIPLE times, this really pisses me off. Cause theoretically, they KNOW the system, KNOW what they're up against and have essentially said fuck it.
Don't get me wrong, I get pissed at each and every cave, but folks who think "they can have just one" or "think they've got it beat" after a couple of hundred (or thousand) days REALLY piss me off.
Not only that, but when I've personally invested in a quitter (shared phone number, talked on the phone, texted, emailed, PMd, etc.) it really hurts when they fail. I take it personally, and as such, when/if they come back I REALLY let them have it. I'm guessing it's similar with other mods/admins. So what you're seeing in public (the bashing) may just be PART of the story. You haven't seen the blood, sweat and tears that mod/admin has put into a fellow quitter. You haven't seen the heartache that mod/admin has felt when his brother let him down.
Or maybe the mods admins are just assholes... * shrugs *
When I see a stopper fail after a couple hundred days, it is almost ALWAYS because they had the tools, knew how to use them, and chose not to. They should already "get" that this is life and death. I tend not to bust their balls as much because they still have those tools, and it is up to them to use them or not. I still demand accountability and self examination, and will call them on BS, but they already have the tools. And, unless they were in my quit group, their brothers typically are crucifying them behind the scenes.
Its different when someone caves after a couple days. They may have the tools, but they most likely DO NOT know how to use them or how powerful they can be in this battle. Call it tough love or trial by fire, but they need to learn that it is a life and death battle. They need to understand that they are ADDICTS to poison, and their addiction will not "go away." They must fight daily to keep it at bay. They must have a plan on how to keep it away, and a backup plan when it all goes to hell.
This is me, speaking for me. And yes, I am an asshole.
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I finally feeling more comfortable with my quit after 200 days but I know I'm still a weak bitch! Still consider myself a newbie. I appreciate so much the support and brotherhood of KTC. That being said I have a question that will probably cause a shit storm against me but it needs to be explained.
I've watched retreads return after caving from 100's of days of quit and others cave after only a few days of quit. Many people with visions of "magic quit" and fade away as reality sets in in the first week or two. I think we all recognize what a bitch it is to quit and as we win each day we hate seeing caves even more! I still remember my first experience seeing someone cave and how I felt about the tough love that was dealt out! "Remember that Bruce?" Lol. We also recognize the bullshit talk of addict. Pointing out and holding Every weak ass caver responsible for their actions is essential.
Now my question: "Why do some cavers get so much shit that they leave because they are left thinking that they will never be accepted by KTC again, and other cavers come back and are given a high 5 for returning." Why should a caver after 2 days be given more shit than someone that caves after 300 - 400 days or more? The first is just getting started and the seasoned quitter has tools. I think the thing that bothers me the most is that often the inequitable treatment is from mods and admins. I hope that I'm just a little skewed in my view because of a couple run-ins. I'm seriously concerned about this issue and am open to criticism and being set straight.
My two cents:
All of us are addicts and as such, have similar reactions, excuses and behaviors.
That being said, all of us come from differing stock. Meaning that yes we are all addicts but I think there are degrees of addiction. Some are extreme while others may not be so extremely addicted.
Some of us have better stamina to endure and fight while others don't.
I think that there are patterns to recognize but one caver isn't the same as another.
Maybe guidelines of how to treat a caver is good but there should be a variance of treatment tailored to the caver. Like raising kids. Motivation comes from within. How do you trigger that motivation?
This site is quit or split. Our response to cavers should get them committed to the plan or out and no longer detractor.
We want everyone to quit for life but not everyone will. If shitty treatment or encouraging treatment is needed....go with your gut if your intention is to get them to make a promise to quit. If they get offended, probably wanted an excuse to dip.
I can't speak for other mods/admins so I'll speak for ol Chewie...
For me it comes down to investment. When someone comes here, "tries" and fails, you can ALMOST give them a pass (or at the very least give them a wee bit of sympathy) cause they don't REALLY understand the system or what they're fighting against.
When a long time quitter caves, or worse yet, caves MULTIPLE times, this really pisses me off. Cause theoretically, they KNOW the system, KNOW what they're up against and have essentially said fuck it.
Don't get me wrong, I get pissed at each and every cave, but folks who think "they can have just one" or "think they've got it beat" after a couple of hundred (or thousand) days REALLY piss me off.
Not only that, but when I've personally invested in a quitter (shared phone number, talked on the phone, texted, emailed, PMd, etc.) it really hurts when they fail. I take it personally, and as such, when/if they come back I REALLY let them have it. I'm guessing it's similar with other mods/admins. So what you're seeing in public (the bashing) may just be PART of the story. You haven't seen the blood, sweat and tears that mod/admin has put into a fellow quitter. You haven't seen the heartache that mod/admin has felt when his brother let him down.
Or maybe the mods admins are just assholes... * shrugs *
When I see a stopper fail after a couple hundred days, it is almost ALWAYS because they had the tools, knew how to use them, and chose not to. They should already "get" that this is life and death. I tend not to bust their balls as much because they still have those tools, and it is up to them to use them or not. I still demand accountability and self examination, and will call them on BS, but they already have the tools. And, unless they were in my quit group, their brothers typically are crucifying them behind the scenes.
Its different when someone caves after a couple days. They may have the tools, but they most likely DO NOT know how to use them or how powerful they can be in this battle. Call it tough love or trial by fire, but they need to learn that it is a life and death battle. They need to understand that they are ADDICTS to poison, and their addiction will not "go away." They must fight daily to keep it at bay. They must have a plan on how to keep it away, and a backup plan when it all goes to hell.
This is me, speaking for me. And yes, I am an asshole.
I have never seen anyone get a "high five" when they come back. Everyone gets ripped and to what extent depends on how they react to the initial ass chewing they receive. If someone takes their ass ripping for what it is and realize everyone is trying to save their life then the commotion tends to go away quickly and we all get back to quitting. Cavers must accept what they did, not try to make excuses, show they want to follow the rules, and give a plan how to keep it from happening again.
The worst ass rippings I have seen come from the guys who try to defend why they failed, "their situation required it" and "we really need to understand it from their perspective" and typically the guys that fight the hardest to prove we are wrong are the newer people. The guys with hundreds of days know what they did was wrong and for the most part do not try to argue as they have been around the site long enough to know the futility of making such arguments.
This site cannot and will not ever accpept a reason to go back to using. Whatever any addict can come up with to try and justify caving will not be acceptable and the harder they fight to prove themselves right the worse the backlash from the community.
I tend to try and not be an ass but I will defend this site when the methods or the members are questioned.
STAY QUIT
Greg
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I finally feeling more comfortable with my quit after 200 days but I know I'm still a weak bitch! Still consider myself a newbie. I appreciate so much the support and brotherhood of KTC. That being said I have a question that will probably cause a shit storm against me but it needs to be explained.
I've watched retreads return after caving from 100's of days of quit and others cave after only a few days of quit. Many people with visions of "magic quit" and fade away as reality sets in in the first week or two. I think we all recognize what a bitch it is to quit and as we win each day we hate seeing caves even more! I still remember my first experience seeing someone cave and how I felt about the tough love that was dealt out! "Remember that Bruce?" Lol. We also recognize the bullshit talk of addict. Pointing out and holding Every weak ass caver responsible for their actions is essential.
Now my question: "Why do some cavers get so much shit that they leave because they are left thinking that they will never be accepted by KTC again, and other cavers come back and are given a high 5 for returning." Why should a caver after 2 days be given more shit than someone that caves after 300 - 400 days or more? The first is just getting started and the seasoned quitter has tools. I think the thing that bothers me the most is that often the inequitable treatment is from mods and admins. I hope that I'm just a little skewed in my view because of a couple run-ins. I'm seriously concerned about this issue and am open to criticism and being set straight.
My two cents:
All of us are addicts and as such, have similar reactions, excuses and behaviors.
That being said, all of us come from differing stock. Meaning that yes we are all addicts but I think there are degrees of addiction. Some are extreme while others may not be so extremely addicted.
Some of us have better stamina to endure and fight while others don't.
I think that there are patterns to recognize but one caver isn't the same as another.
Maybe guidelines of how to treat a caver is good but there should be a variance of treatment tailored to the caver. Like raising kids. Motivation comes from within. How do you trigger that motivation?
This site is quit or split. Our response to cavers should get them committed to the plan or out and no longer detractor.
We want everyone to quit for life but not everyone will. If shitty treatment or encouraging treatment is needed....go with your gut if your intention is to get them to make a promise to quit. If they get offended, probably wanted an excuse to dip.
I can't speak for other mods/admins so I'll speak for ol Chewie...
For me it comes down to investment. When someone comes here, "tries" and fails, you can ALMOST give them a pass (or at the very least give them a wee bit of sympathy) cause they don't REALLY understand the system or what they're fighting against.
When a long time quitter caves, or worse yet, caves MULTIPLE times, this really pisses me off. Cause theoretically, they KNOW the system, KNOW what they're up against and have essentially said fuck it.
Don't get me wrong, I get pissed at each and every cave, but folks who think "they can have just one" or "think they've got it beat" after a couple of hundred (or thousand) days REALLY piss me off.
Not only that, but when I've personally invested in a quitter (shared phone number, talked on the phone, texted, emailed, PMd, etc.) it really hurts when they fail. I take it personally, and as such, when/if they come back I REALLY let them have it. I'm guessing it's similar with other mods/admins. So what you're seeing in public (the bashing) may just be PART of the story. You haven't seen the blood, sweat and tears that mod/admin has put into a fellow quitter. You haven't seen the heartache that mod/admin has felt when his brother let him down.
Or maybe the mods admins are just assholes... * shrugs *
When I see a stopper fail after a couple hundred days, it is almost ALWAYS because they had the tools, knew how to use them, and chose not to. They should already "get" that this is life and death. I tend not to bust their balls as much because they still have those tools, and it is up to them to use them or not. I still demand accountability and self examination, and will call them on BS, but they already have the tools. And, unless they were in my quit group, their brothers typically are crucifying them behind the scenes.
Its different when someone caves after a couple days. They may have the tools, but they most likely DO NOT know how to use them or how powerful they can be in this battle. Call it tough love or trial by fire, but they need to learn that it is a life and death battle. They need to understand that they are ADDICTS to poison, and their addiction will not "go away." They must fight daily to keep it at bay. They must have a plan on how to keep it away, and a backup plan when it all goes to hell.
This is me, speaking for me. And yes, I am an asshole.
I have never seen anyone get a "high five" when they come back. Everyone gets ripped and to what extent depends on how they react to the initial ass chewing they receive. If someone takes their ass ripping for what it is and realize everyone is trying to save their life then the commotion tends to go away quickly and we all get back to quitting. Cavers must accept what they did, not try to make excuses, show they want to follow the rules, and give a plan how to keep it from happening again.
The worst ass rippings I have seen come from the guys who try to defend why they failed, "their situation required it" and "we really need to understand it from their perspective" and typically the guys that fight the hardest to prove we are wrong are the newer people. The guys with hundreds of days know what they did was wrong and for the most part do not try to argue as they have been around the site long enough to know the futility of making such arguments.
This site cannot and will not ever accpept a reason to go back to using. Whatever any addict can come up with to try and justify caving will not be acceptable and the harder they fight to prove themselves right the worse the backlash from the community.
I tend to try and not be an ass but I will defend this site when the methods or the members are questioned.
STAY QUIT
Greg
Wt,
In my opinion:
Sometimes people do get off easier than they should. Once in a while, perhaps, the tough love goes a bit too far. We are an active forum with a diverse set of personalities, so some disparity in treatment is bound to occur... That said, there are often valid reasons to use different approaches with quitters:
Often the attitude that someone comes back with plays a large part in how they are treated. People who return with an attitude of humility and penitence are usually quickly accepted back. There is nothing to gain by giving them a dose of "tough love". They know the mistakes they made, and we trust that they are going to learn from them and stay quit. (Sometimes it doesn't work out that way, though).
Then there is the person that comes back and tries to give an excuse for their cave. They need to get it through their gourd that THERE IS NO ACCEPTABLE REASON. That requires a forceful approach.
Then there are those that try to sneak in and throw up a day 1 with no explanation. They piss me off. It is obvious to me that they did not learn squat from their mistakes and are just going to stink the place up with weak bullshit until they cave again. For these folks, they need to acknowledge their mistakes before they should ever be accepted- and that often takes a great deal of "tough love". Most of the time, you can't get them to where they need to be mentally.
Now, as for the new quitter that fails- this quitter needs the type of tough love that forces them to face the fact that they are responsible for their success. They are also responsible for their failure. If there is any "addict think", wish, hope or try, it needs to be flushed out, pronto. We need to know if they are quitting for themselves, if they have any trophy cans,,, etc. Of course when we grill them, some will get pissed. Personally, I think that them getting pissed off is a good thing. Get pissed at me by all means. Then PROVE ME WRONG. It is a technique that I have seen work more than once.
As far as the person that leaves because they feel that they were treated too harshly... Personally, I think most, if not all, of them would have left, anyway. The type of accountability demanded here is not for everybody- but it sure works for many. The others will have to find their own way, or return when they decide they will not be deterred in their quest for quit.
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I finally feeling more comfortable with my quit after 200 days but I know I'm still a weak bitch! Still consider myself a newbie. I appreciate so much the support and brotherhood of KTC. That being said I have a question that will probably cause a shit storm against me but it needs to be explained.
I've watched retreads return after caving from 100's of days of quit and others cave after only a few days of quit. Many people with visions of "magic quit" and fade away as reality sets in in the first week or two. I think we all recognize what a bitch it is to quit and as we win each day we hate seeing caves even more! I still remember my first experience seeing someone cave and how I felt about the tough love that was dealt out! "Remember that Bruce?" Lol. We also recognize the bullshit talk of addict. Pointing out and holding Every weak ass caver responsible for their actions is essential.
Now my question: "Why do some cavers get so much shit that they leave because they are left thinking that they will never be accepted by KTC again, and other cavers come back and are given a high 5 for returning." Why should a caver after 2 days be given more shit than someone that caves after 300 - 400 days or more? The first is just getting started and the seasoned quitter has tools. I think the thing that bothers me the most is that often the inequitable treatment is from mods and admins. I hope that I'm just a little skewed in my view because of a couple run-ins. I'm seriously concerned about this issue and am open to criticism and being set straight.
My two cents:
All of us are addicts and as such, have similar reactions, excuses and behaviors.
That being said, all of us come from differing stock. Meaning that yes we are all addicts but I think there are degrees of addiction. Some are extreme while others may not be so extremely addicted.
Some of us have better stamina to endure and fight while others don't.
I think that there are patterns to recognize but one caver isn't the same as another.
Maybe guidelines of how to treat a caver is good but there should be a variance of treatment tailored to the caver. Like raising kids. Motivation comes from within. How do you trigger that motivation?
This site is quit or split. Our response to cavers should get them committed to the plan or out and no longer detractor.
We want everyone to quit for life but not everyone will. If shitty treatment or encouraging treatment is needed....go with your gut if your intention is to get them to make a promise to quit. If they get offended, probably wanted an excuse to dip.
I can't speak for other mods/admins so I'll speak for ol Chewie...
For me it comes down to investment. When someone comes here, "tries" and fails, you can ALMOST give them a pass (or at the very least give them a wee bit of sympathy) cause they don't REALLY understand the system or what they're fighting against.
When a long time quitter caves, or worse yet, caves MULTIPLE times, this really pisses me off. Cause theoretically, they KNOW the system, KNOW what they're up against and have essentially said fuck it.
Don't get me wrong, I get pissed at each and every cave, but folks who think "they can have just one" or "think they've got it beat" after a couple of hundred (or thousand) days REALLY piss me off.
Not only that, but when I've personally invested in a quitter (shared phone number, talked on the phone, texted, emailed, PMd, etc.) it really hurts when they fail. I take it personally, and as such, when/if they come back I REALLY let them have it. I'm guessing it's similar with other mods/admins. So what you're seeing in public (the bashing) may just be PART of the story. You haven't seen the blood, sweat and tears that mod/admin has put into a fellow quitter. You haven't seen the heartache that mod/admin has felt when his brother let him down.
Or maybe the mods admins are just assholes... * shrugs *
When I see a stopper fail after a couple hundred days, it is almost ALWAYS because they had the tools, knew how to use them, and chose not to. They should already "get" that this is life and death. I tend not to bust their balls as much because they still have those tools, and it is up to them to use them or not. I still demand accountability and self examination, and will call them on BS, but they already have the tools. And, unless they were in my quit group, their brothers typically are crucifying them behind the scenes.
Its different when someone caves after a couple days. They may have the tools, but they most likely DO NOT know how to use them or how powerful they can be in this battle. Call it tough love or trial by fire, but they need to learn that it is a life and death battle. They need to understand that they are ADDICTS to poison, and their addiction will not "go away." They must fight daily to keep it at bay. They must have a plan on how to keep it away, and a backup plan when it all goes to hell.
This is me, speaking for me. And yes, I am an asshole.
I have never seen anyone get a "high five" when they come back. Everyone gets ripped and to what extent depends on how they react to the initial ass chewing they receive. If someone takes their ass ripping for what it is and realize everyone is trying to save their life then the commotion tends to go away quickly and we all get back to quitting. Cavers must accept what they did, not try to make excuses, show they want to follow the rules, and give a plan how to keep it from happening again.
The worst ass rippings I have seen come from the guys who try to defend why they failed, "their situation required it" and "we really need to understand it from their perspective" and typically the guys that fight the hardest to prove we are wrong are the newer people. The guys with hundreds of days know what they did was wrong and for the most part do not try to argue as they have been around the site long enough to know the futility of making such arguments.
This site cannot and will not ever accpept a reason to go back to using. Whatever any addict can come up with to try and justify caving will not be acceptable and the harder they fight to prove themselves right the worse the backlash from the community.
I tend to try and not be an ass but I will defend this site when the methods or the members are questioned.
STAY QUIT
Greg
Wt,
In my opinion:
Sometimes people do get off easier than they should. Once in a while, perhaps, the tough love goes a bit too far. We are an active forum with a diverse set of personalities, so some disparity in treatment is bound to occur... That said, there are often valid reasons to use different approaches with quitters:
Often the attitude that someone comes back with plays a large part in how they are treated. People who return with an attitude of humility and penitence are usually quickly accepted back. There is nothing to gain by giving them a dose of "tough love". They know the mistakes they made, and we trust that they are going to learn from them and stay quit. (Sometimes it doesn't work out that way, though).
Then there is the person that comes back and tries to give an excuse for their cave. They need to get it through their gourd that THERE IS NO ACCEPTABLE REASON. That requires a forceful approach.
Then there are those that try to sneak in and throw up a day 1 with no explanation. They piss me off. It is obvious to me that they did not learn squat from their mistakes and are just going to stink the place up with weak bullshit until they cave again. For these folks, they need to acknowledge their mistakes before they should ever be accepted- and that often takes a great deal of "tough love". Most of the time, you can't get them to where they need to be mentally.
Now, as for the new quitter that fails- this quitter needs the type of tough love that forces them to face the fact that they are responsible for their success. They are also responsible for their failure. If there is any "addict think", wish, hope or try, it needs to be flushed out, pronto. We need to know if they are quitting for themselves, if they have any trophy cans,,, etc. Of course when we grill them, some will get pissed. Personally, I think that them getting pissed off is a good thing. Get pissed at me by all means. Then PROVE ME WRONG. It is a technique that I have seen work more than once.
As far as the person that leaves because they feel that they were treated too harshly... Personally, I think most, if not all, of them would have left, anyway. The type of accountability demanded here is not for everybody- but it sure works for many. The others will have to find their own way, or return when they decide they will not be deterred in their quest for quit.
Chews, that may be the best post ever... seriously laughed out loud and in public at the last line!
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I finally feeling more comfortable with my quit after 200 days but I know I'm still a weak bitch! Still consider myself a newbie. I appreciate so much the support and brotherhood of KTC. That being said I have a question that will probably cause a shit storm against me but it needs to be explained.
I've watched retreads return after caving from 100's of days of quit and others cave after only a few days of quit. Many people with visions of "magic quit" and fade away as reality sets in in the first week or two. I think we all recognize what a bitch it is to quit and as we win each day we hate seeing caves even more! I still remember my first experience seeing someone cave and how I felt about the tough love that was dealt out! "Remember that Bruce?" Lol. We also recognize the bullshit talk of addict. Pointing out and holding Every weak ass caver responsible for their actions is essential.
Now my question: "Why do some cavers get so much shit that they leave because they are left thinking that they will never be accepted by KTC again, and other cavers come back and are given a high 5 for returning." Why should a caver after 2 days be given more shit than someone that caves after 300 - 400 days or more? The first is just getting started and the seasoned quitter has tools. I think the thing that bothers me the most is that often the inequitable treatment is from mods and admins. I hope that I'm just a little skewed in my view because of a couple run-ins. I'm seriously concerned about this issue and am open to criticism and being set straight.
My two cents:
All of us are addicts and as such, have similar reactions, excuses and behaviors.
That being said, all of us come from differing stock. Meaning that yes we are all addicts but I think there are degrees of addiction. Some are extreme while others may not be so extremely addicted.
Some of us have better stamina to endure and fight while others don't.
I think that there are patterns to recognize but one caver isn't the same as another.
Maybe guidelines of how to treat a caver is good but there should be a variance of treatment tailored to the caver. Like raising kids. Motivation comes from within. How do you trigger that motivation?
This site is quit or split. Our response to cavers should get them committed to the plan or out and no longer detractor.
We want everyone to quit for life but not everyone will. If shitty treatment or encouraging treatment is needed....go with your gut if your intention is to get them to make a promise to quit. If they get offended, probably wanted an excuse to dip.
I can't speak for other mods/admins so I'll speak for ol Chewie...
For me it comes down to investment. When someone comes here, "tries" and fails, you can ALMOST give them a pass (or at the very least give them a wee bit of sympathy) cause they don't REALLY understand the system or what they're fighting against.
When a long time quitter caves, or worse yet, caves MULTIPLE times, this really pisses me off. Cause theoretically, they KNOW the system, KNOW what they're up against and have essentially said fuck it.
Don't get me wrong, I get pissed at each and every cave, but folks who think "they can have just one" or "think they've got it beat" after a couple of hundred (or thousand) days REALLY piss me off.
Not only that, but when I've personally invested in a quitter (shared phone number, talked on the phone, texted, emailed, PMd, etc.) it really hurts when they fail. I take it personally, and as such, when/if they come back I REALLY let them have it. I'm guessing it's similar with other mods/admins. So what you're seeing in public (the bashing) may just be PART of the story. You haven't seen the blood, sweat and tears that mod/admin has put into a fellow quitter. You haven't seen the heartache that mod/admin has felt when his brother let him down.
Or maybe the mods admins are just assholes... * shrugs *
When I see a stopper fail after a couple hundred days, it is almost ALWAYS because they had the tools, knew how to use them, and chose not to. They should already "get" that this is life and death. I tend not to bust their balls as much because they still have those tools, and it is up to them to use them or not. I still demand accountability and self examination, and will call them on BS, but they already have the tools. And, unless they were in my quit group, their brothers typically are crucifying them behind the scenes.
Its different when someone caves after a couple days. They may have the tools, but they most likely DO NOT know how to use them or how powerful they can be in this battle. Call it tough love or trial by fire, but they need to learn that it is a life and death battle. They need to understand that they are ADDICTS to poison, and their addiction will not "go away." They must fight daily to keep it at bay. They must have a plan on how to keep it away, and a backup plan when it all goes to hell.
This is me, speaking for me. And yes, I am an asshole.
I have never seen anyone get a "high five" when they come back. Everyone gets ripped and to what extent depends on how they react to the initial ass chewing they receive. If someone takes their ass ripping for what it is and realize everyone is trying to save their life then the commotion tends to go away quickly and we all get back to quitting. Cavers must accept what they did, not try to make excuses, show they want to follow the rules, and give a plan how to keep it from happening again.
The worst ass rippings I have seen come from the guys who try to defend why they failed, "their situation required it" and "we really need to understand it from their perspective" and typically the guys that fight the hardest to prove we are wrong are the newer people. The guys with hundreds of days know what they did was wrong and for the most part do not try to argue as they have been around the site long enough to know the futility of making such arguments.
This site cannot and will not ever accpept a reason to go back to using. Whatever any addict can come up with to try and justify caving will not be acceptable and the harder they fight to prove themselves right the worse the backlash from the community.
I tend to try and not be an ass but I will defend this site when the methods or the members are questioned.
STAY QUIT
Greg
Wt,
In my opinion:
Sometimes people do get off easier than they should. Once in a while, perhaps, the tough love goes a bit too far. We are an active forum with a diverse set of personalities, so some disparity in treatment is bound to occur... That said, there are often valid reasons to use different approaches with quitters:
Often the attitude that someone comes back with plays a large part in how they are treated. People who return with an attitude of humility and penitence are usually quickly accepted back. There is nothing to gain by giving them a dose of "tough love". They know the mistakes they made, and we trust that they are going to learn from them and stay quit. (Sometimes it doesn't work out that way, though).
Then there is the person that comes back and tries to give an excuse for their cave. They need to get it through their gourd that THERE IS NO ACCEPTABLE REASON. That requires a forceful approach.
Then there are those that try to sneak in and throw up a day 1 with no explanation. They piss me off. It is obvious to me that they did not learn squat from their mistakes and are just going to stink the place up with weak bullshit until they cave again. For these folks, they need to acknowledge their mistakes before they should ever be accepted- and that often takes a great deal of "tough love". Most of the time, you can't get them to where they need to be mentally.
Now, as for the new quitter that fails- this quitter needs the type of tough love that forces them to face the fact that they are responsible for their success. They are also responsible for their failure. If there is any "addict think", wish, hope or try, it needs to be flushed out, pronto. We need to know if they are quitting for themselves, if they have any trophy cans,,, etc. Of course when we grill them, some will get pissed. Personally, I think that them getting pissed off is a good thing. Get pissed at me by all means. Then PROVE ME WRONG. It is a technique that I have seen work more than once.
As far as the person that leaves because they feel that they were treated too harshly... Personally, I think most, if not all, of them would have left, anyway. The type of accountability demanded here is not for everybody- but it sure works for many. The others will have to find their own way, or return when they decide they will not be deterred in their quest for quit.
Chews, that may be the best post ever... seriously laughed out loud and in public at the last line!
I don't know what you guys are talking about.
I'm a 'people' person.
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I finally feeling more comfortable with my quit after 200 days but I know I'm still a weak bitch! Still consider myself a newbie. I appreciate so much the support and brotherhood of KTC. That being said I have a question that will probably cause a shit storm against me but it needs to be explained.
I've watched retreads return after caving from 100's of days of quit and others cave after only a few days of quit. Many people with visions of "magic quit" and fade away as reality sets in in the first week or two. I think we all recognize what a bitch it is to quit and as we win each day we hate seeing caves even more! I still remember my first experience seeing someone cave and how I felt about the tough love that was dealt out! "Remember that Bruce?" Lol. We also recognize the bullshit talk of addict. Pointing out and holding Every weak ass caver responsible for their actions is essential.
Now my question: "Why do some cavers get so much shit that they leave because they are left thinking that they will never be accepted by KTC again, and other cavers come back and are given a high 5 for returning." Why should a caver after 2 days be given more shit than someone that caves after 300 - 400 days or more? The first is just getting started and the seasoned quitter has tools. I think the thing that bothers me the most is that often the inequitable treatment is from mods and admins. I hope that I'm just a little skewed in my view because of a couple run-ins. I'm seriously concerned about this issue and am open to criticism and being set straight.
My two cents:
All of us are addicts and as such, have similar reactions, excuses and behaviors.
That being said, all of us come from differing stock. Meaning that yes we are all addicts but I think there are degrees of addiction. Some are extreme while others may not be so extremely addicted.
Some of us have better stamina to endure and fight while others don't.
I think that there are patterns to recognize but one caver isn't the same as another.
Maybe guidelines of how to treat a caver is good but there should be a variance of treatment tailored to the caver. Like raising kids. Motivation comes from within. How do you trigger that motivation?
This site is quit or split. Our response to cavers should get them committed to the plan or out and no longer detractor.
We want everyone to quit for life but not everyone will. If shitty treatment or encouraging treatment is needed....go with your gut if your intention is to get them to make a promise to quit. If they get offended, probably wanted an excuse to dip.
I can't speak for other mods/admins so I'll speak for ol Chewie...
For me it comes down to investment. When someone comes here, "tries" and fails, you can ALMOST give them a pass (or at the very least give them a wee bit of sympathy) cause they don't REALLY understand the system or what they're fighting against.
When a long time quitter caves, or worse yet, caves MULTIPLE times, this really pisses me off. Cause theoretically, they KNOW the system, KNOW what they're up against and have essentially said fuck it.
Don't get me wrong, I get pissed at each and every cave, but folks who think "they can have just one" or "think they've got it beat" after a couple of hundred (or thousand) days REALLY piss me off.
Not only that, but when I've personally invested in a quitter (shared phone number, talked on the phone, texted, emailed, PMd, etc.) it really hurts when they fail. I take it personally, and as such, when/if they come back I REALLY let them have it. I'm guessing it's similar with other mods/admins. So what you're seeing in public (the bashing) may just be PART of the story. You haven't seen the blood, sweat and tears that mod/admin has put into a fellow quitter. You haven't seen the heartache that mod/admin has felt when his brother let him down.
Or maybe the mods admins are just assholes... * shrugs *
When I see a stopper fail after a couple hundred days, it is almost ALWAYS because they had the tools, knew how to use them, and chose not to. They should already "get" that this is life and death. I tend not to bust their balls as much because they still have those tools, and it is up to them to use them or not. I still demand accountability and self examination, and will call them on BS, but they already have the tools. And, unless they were in my quit group, their brothers typically are crucifying them behind the scenes.
Its different when someone caves after a couple days. They may have the tools, but they most likely DO NOT know how to use them or how powerful they can be in this battle. Call it tough love or trial by fire, but they need to learn that it is a life and death battle. They need to understand that they are ADDICTS to poison, and their addiction will not "go away." They must fight daily to keep it at bay. They must have a plan on how to keep it away, and a backup plan when it all goes to hell.
This is me, speaking for me. And yes, I am an asshole.
I have never seen anyone get a "high five" when they come back. Everyone gets ripped and to what extent depends on how they react to the initial ass chewing they receive. If someone takes their ass ripping for what it is and realize everyone is trying to save their life then the commotion tends to go away quickly and we all get back to quitting. Cavers must accept what they did, not try to make excuses, show they want to follow the rules, and give a plan how to keep it from happening again.
The worst ass rippings I have seen come from the guys who try to defend why they failed, "their situation required it" and "we really need to understand it from their perspective" and typically the guys that fight the hardest to prove we are wrong are the newer people. The guys with hundreds of days know what they did was wrong and for the most part do not try to argue as they have been around the site long enough to know the futility of making such arguments.
This site cannot and will not ever accpept a reason to go back to using. Whatever any addict can come up with to try and justify caving will not be acceptable and the harder they fight to prove themselves right the worse the backlash from the community.
I tend to try and not be an ass but I will defend this site when the methods or the members are questioned.
STAY QUIT
Greg
Wt,
In my opinion:
Sometimes people do get off easier than they should. Once in a while, perhaps, the tough love goes a bit too far. We are an active forum with a diverse set of personalities, so some disparity in treatment is bound to occur... That said, there are often valid reasons to use different approaches with quitters:
Often the attitude that someone comes back with plays a large part in how they are treated. People who return with an attitude of humility and penitence are usually quickly accepted back. There is nothing to gain by giving them a dose of "tough love". They know the mistakes they made, and we trust that they are going to learn from them and stay quit. (Sometimes it doesn't work out that way, though).
Then there is the person that comes back and tries to give an excuse for their cave. They need to get it through their gourd that THERE IS NO ACCEPTABLE REASON. That requires a forceful approach.
Then there are those that try to sneak in and throw up a day 1 with no explanation. They piss me off. It is obvious to me that they did not learn squat from their mistakes and are just going to stink the place up with weak bullshit until they cave again. For these folks, they need to acknowledge their mistakes before they should ever be accepted- and that often takes a great deal of "tough love". Most of the time, you can't get them to where they need to be mentally.
Now, as for the new quitter that fails- this quitter needs the type of tough love that forces them to face the fact that they are responsible for their success. They are also responsible for their failure. If there is any "addict think", wish, hope or try, it needs to be flushed out, pronto. We need to know if they are quitting for themselves, if they have any trophy cans,,, etc. Of course when we grill them, some will get pissed. Personally, I think that them getting pissed off is a good thing. Get pissed at me by all means. Then PROVE ME WRONG. It is a technique that I have seen work more than once.
As far as the person that leaves because they feel that they were treated too harshly... Personally, I think most, if not all, of them would have left, anyway. The type of accountability demanded here is not for everybody- but it sure works for many. The others will have to find their own way, or return when they decide they will not be deterred in their quest for quit.
Chews, that may be the best post ever... seriously laughed out loud and in public at the last line!
I don't know what you guys are talking about.
I'm a 'people' person.
Nolaq You are a 'people' person without a doubt. I'm sorry if my comments hit a nerve with some they weren't meant to single anyone out just my general view of the role of mods and admins. Upon further reflection I may have been less than clear in my thoughts. I just think that when the fury of any issue, not just a cave, gets out of hand the role of mods and admins is to use their influence and experience to direct the conversation into a more controlled direction! I don't mean sensoring or telling people what to say. Restraining from pileing on or making comments to direct the conversation by those that are looked up to is what I would expect from those with colored names. I will admit that sometimes it's fun to make wild craze posts and jump on an issue. I have no problem with that, it's a damn good way to vent. However if at the bottom of the pile is an addict, I don't want them to get lost if we can help them in quitting!
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New blog post: Go Coffee Energy Review - A Cup In A Pinch
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/10/go-c ... n-a-pinch/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/10/go-coffee-energy-review-a-cup-in-a-pinch/)
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I finally feeling more comfortable with my quit after 200 days but I know I'm still a weak bitch! Still consider myself a newbie. I appreciate so much the support and brotherhood of KTC. That being said I have a question that will probably cause a shit storm against me but it needs to be explained.
I've watched retreads return after caving from 100's of days of quit and others cave after only a few days of quit. Many people with visions of "magic quit" and fade away as reality sets in in the first week or two. I think we all recognize what a bitch it is to quit and as we win each day we hate seeing caves even more! I still remember my first experience seeing someone cave and how I felt about the tough love that was dealt out! "Remember that Bruce?" Lol. We also recognize the bullshit talk of addict. Pointing out and holding Every weak ass caver responsible for their actions is essential.
Now my question: "Why do some cavers get so much shit that they leave because they are left thinking that they will never be accepted by KTC again, and other cavers come back and are given a high 5 for returning." Why should a caver after 2 days be given more shit than someone that caves after 300 - 400 days or more? The first is just getting started and the seasoned quitter has tools. I think the thing that bothers me the most is that often the inequitable treatment is from mods and admins. I hope that I'm just a little skewed in my view because of a couple run-ins. I'm seriously concerned about this issue and am open to criticism and being set straight.
My two cents:
All of us are addicts and as such, have similar reactions, excuses and behaviors.
That being said, all of us come from differing stock. Meaning that yes we are all addicts but I think there are degrees of addiction. Some are extreme while others may not be so extremely addicted.
Some of us have better stamina to endure and fight while others don't.
I think that there are patterns to recognize but one caver isn't the same as another.
Maybe guidelines of how to treat a caver is good but there should be a variance of treatment tailored to the caver. Like raising kids. Motivation comes from within. How do you trigger that motivation?
This site is quit or split. Our response to cavers should get them committed to the plan or out and no longer detractor.
We want everyone to quit for life but not everyone will. If shitty treatment or encouraging treatment is needed....go with your gut if your intention is to get them to make a promise to quit. If they get offended, probably wanted an excuse to dip.
I can't speak for other mods/admins so I'll speak for ol Chewie...
For me it comes down to investment. When someone comes here, "tries" and fails, you can ALMOST give them a pass (or at the very least give them a wee bit of sympathy) cause they don't REALLY understand the system or what they're fighting against.
When a long time quitter caves, or worse yet, caves MULTIPLE times, this really pisses me off. Cause theoretically, they KNOW the system, KNOW what they're up against and have essentially said fuck it.
Don't get me wrong, I get pissed at each and every cave, but folks who think "they can have just one" or "think they've got it beat" after a couple of hundred (or thousand) days REALLY piss me off.
Not only that, but when I've personally invested in a quitter (shared phone number, talked on the phone, texted, emailed, PMd, etc.) it really hurts when they fail. I take it personally, and as such, when/if they come back I REALLY let them have it. I'm guessing it's similar with other mods/admins. So what you're seeing in public (the bashing) may just be PART of the story. You haven't seen the blood, sweat and tears that mod/admin has put into a fellow quitter. You haven't seen the heartache that mod/admin has felt when his brother let him down.
Or maybe the mods admins are just assholes... * shrugs *
When I see a stopper fail after a couple hundred days, it is almost ALWAYS because they had the tools, knew how to use them, and chose not to. They should already "get" that this is life and death. I tend not to bust their balls as much because they still have those tools, and it is up to them to use them or not. I still demand accountability and self examination, and will call them on BS, but they already have the tools. And, unless they were in my quit group, their brothers typically are crucifying them behind the scenes.
Its different when someone caves after a couple days. They may have the tools, but they most likely DO NOT know how to use them or how powerful they can be in this battle. Call it tough love or trial by fire, but they need to learn that it is a life and death battle. They need to understand that they are ADDICTS to poison, and their addiction will not "go away." They must fight daily to keep it at bay. They must have a plan on how to keep it away, and a backup plan when it all goes to hell.
This is me, speaking for me. And yes, I am an asshole.
I have never seen anyone get a "high five" when they come back. Everyone gets ripped and to what extent depends on how they react to the initial ass chewing they receive. If someone takes their ass ripping for what it is and realize everyone is trying to save their life then the commotion tends to go away quickly and we all get back to quitting. Cavers must accept what they did, not try to make excuses, show they want to follow the rules, and give a plan how to keep it from happening again.
The worst ass rippings I have seen come from the guys who try to defend why they failed, "their situation required it" and "we really need to understand it from their perspective" and typically the guys that fight the hardest to prove we are wrong are the newer people. The guys with hundreds of days know what they did was wrong and for the most part do not try to argue as they have been around the site long enough to know the futility of making such arguments.
This site cannot and will not ever accpept a reason to go back to using. Whatever any addict can come up with to try and justify caving will not be acceptable and the harder they fight to prove themselves right the worse the backlash from the community.
I tend to try and not be an ass but I will defend this site when the methods or the members are questioned.
STAY QUIT
Greg
Wt,
In my opinion:
Sometimes people do get off easier than they should. Once in a while, perhaps, the tough love goes a bit too far. We are an active forum with a diverse set of personalities, so some disparity in treatment is bound to occur... That said, there are often valid reasons to use different approaches with quitters:
Often the attitude that someone comes back with plays a large part in how they are treated. People who return with an attitude of humility and penitence are usually quickly accepted back. There is nothing to gain by giving them a dose of "tough love". They know the mistakes they made, and we trust that they are going to learn from them and stay quit. (Sometimes it doesn't work out that way, though).
Then there is the person that comes back and tries to give an excuse for their cave. They need to get it through their gourd that THERE IS NO ACCEPTABLE REASON. That requires a forceful approach.
Then there are those that try to sneak in and throw up a day 1 with no explanation. They piss me off. It is obvious to me that they did not learn squat from their mistakes and are just going to stink the place up with weak bullshit until they cave again. For these folks, they need to acknowledge their mistakes before they should ever be accepted- and that often takes a great deal of "tough love". Most of the time, you can't get them to where they need to be mentally.
Now, as for the new quitter that fails- this quitter needs the type of tough love that forces them to face the fact that they are responsible for their success. They are also responsible for their failure. If there is any "addict think", wish, hope or try, it needs to be flushed out, pronto. We need to know if they are quitting for themselves, if they have any trophy cans,,, etc. Of course when we grill them, some will get pissed. Personally, I think that them getting pissed off is a good thing. Get pissed at me by all means. Then PROVE ME WRONG. It is a technique that I have seen work more than once.
As far as the person that leaves because they feel that they were treated too harshly... Personally, I think most, if not all, of them would have left, anyway. The type of accountability demanded here is not for everybody- but it sure works for many. The others will have to find their own way, or return when they decide they will not be deterred in their quest for quit.
Chews, that may be the best post ever... seriously laughed out loud and in public at the last line!
I don't know what you guys are talking about.
I'm a 'people' person.
Nolaq You are a 'people' person without a doubt. I'm sorry if my comments hit a nerve with some they weren't meant to single anyone out just my general view of the role of mods and admins. Upon further reflection I may have been less than clear in my thoughts. I just think that when the fury of any issue, not just a cave, gets out of hand the role of mods and admins is to use their influence and experience to direct the conversation into a more controlled direction! I don't mean sensoring or telling people what to say. Restraining from pileing on or making comments to direct the conversation by those that are looked up to is what I would expect from those with colored names. I will admit that sometimes it's fun to make wild craze posts and jump on an issue. I have no problem with that, it's a damn good way to vent. However if at the bottom of the pile is an addict, I don't want them to get lost if we can help them in quitting!
"...or maybe the mods admins are just assholes..."
'na na'
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New blog post: Go Coffee Energy Review - A Cup In A Pinch
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/10/go-c ... n-a-pinch/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/10/go-coffee-energy-review-a-cup-in-a-pinch/)
wash it down with a little rockstar and you're up all night!
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Hey can anyone tell me why my freaking mouth is shedding like a lizard??
Day 2.
That is all.
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Hey can anyone tell me why my freaking mouth is shedding like a lizard??
Day 2.
That is all.
Healing!!! Mine healed for 60 days.
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Hey can anyone tell me why my freaking mouth is shedding like a lizard??
Day 2.
That is all.
Healing!!! Mine healed for 60 days.
Like Wt said, your mouth is healing. Here are some more "normal" symptoms of quitting:
http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/symptoms.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/symptoms.asp)
http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/what.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/what.asp)
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Hey can anyone tell me why my freaking mouth is shedding like a lizard??
Day 2.
That is all.
Healing!!! Mine healed for 60 days.
Like Wt said, your mouth is healing. Here are some more "normal" symptoms of quitting:
http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/symptoms.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/symptoms.asp)
http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/what.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/what.asp)
I threw out my snuff at midnight, Im really going to quit for good this time. I just want to live a better life.
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I threw out my snuff at midnight, Im really going to quit for good this time. I just want to live a better life.
Congratulations, sir! Check your inbox(1) at the upper right
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bowtrol12
Looks like a troll to me!!
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bowtrol12
Looks like a troll to me!!
Good eye Keddy, and thanks.
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There is one moment, THE moment, when you finally let go and surrender to the quit. When you finally commit to never using again, starting today (no matter how many days are under your belt). When you quietly, firmly and genuinely forfeit your right to kill yourself by using tobacco. After that moment, no temptation will be great enough, no lie persuasive enough to make you commit suicide by using tobacco." CLOSE THE DOOR
I think I had read this before; right after I first quit, and now just read it again on December's roll. It means more to me now, than it did in the first few days. Maybe because I'm closer to feeling that way. Still though, I don't feel that way 100%. I don't want to use tobacco today, or this week, or in the FORSEEABLE future. But I also feel that in the back of my brain, there is this little bit of me that will want to use it again one day. So I can't close the door. Not yet. But I sure want to close that door....and I will continue to CONSCIOUSLY quit everyday.
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There is one moment, THE moment, when you finally let go and surrender to the quit. When you finally commit to never using again, starting today (no matter how many days are under your belt). When you quietly, firmly and genuinely forfeit your right to kill yourself by using tobacco. After that moment, no temptation will be great enough, no lie persuasive enough to make you commit suicide by using tobacco." CLOSE THE DOOR
I think I had read this before; right after I first quit, and now just read it again on December's roll. It means more to me now, than it did in the first few days. Maybe because I'm closer to feeling that way. Still though, I don't feel that way 100%. I don't want to use tobacco today, or this week, or in the FORSEEABLE future. But I also feel that in the back of my brain, there is this little bit of me that will want to use it again one day. So I can't close the door. Not yet. But I sure want to close that door....and I will continue to CONSCIOUSLY quit everyday.
1. Post Roll.
2. Keep your Word.
3. Repeat.
Follow these steps, and you will win. I came into this Quit with my door shut. I was DONE when I showed up here. Some guys are. Some guys aren't.
I appreciate your honesty and the fact that you know yourself enough to know you are not there yet. That is why it is SO important to continue showing up and keep stringing those '1's' together. Before you know it, you'll be long into your Quit.
When you shut the door, it is so liberating.
Keep it up. You're winning.
Never again.
For any reason.
-Nolaq
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There is one moment, THE moment, when you finally let go and surrender to the quit. When you finally commit to never using again, starting today (no matter how many days are under your belt). When you quietly, firmly and genuinely forfeit your right to kill yourself by using tobacco. After that moment, no temptation will be great enough, no lie persuasive enough to make you commit suicide by using tobacco." CLOSE THE DOOR
I think I had read this before; right after I first quit, and now just read it again on December's roll. It means more to me now, than it did in the first few days. Maybe because I'm closer to feeling that way. Still though, I don't feel that way 100%. I don't want to use tobacco today, or this week, or in the FORSEEABLE future. But I also feel that in the back of my brain, there is this little bit of me that will want to use it again one day. So I can't close the door. Not yet. But I sure want to close that door....and I will continue to CONSCIOUSLY quit everyday.
1. Post Roll.
2. Keep your Word.
3. Repeat.
Follow these steps, and you will win. I came into this Quit with my door shut. I was DONE when I showed up here. Some guys are. Some guys aren't.
I appreciate your honesty and the fact that you know yourself enough to know you are not there yet. That is why it is SO important to continue showing up and keep stringing those '1's' together. Before you know it, you'll be long into your Quit.
When you shut the door, it is so liberating.
Keep it up. You're winning.
Never again.
For any reason.
-Nolaq
Those that succeed follow the three steps. I have yet to see someone who posts roll daily cave. Just does not happen.
1. Post Roll.
2. Keep your Word.
3. Repeat.
That my friends is the key to success.
STAY QUIT
Greg
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New blog post: It's Almost Turkey Time... Cold Turkey!
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/11/its- ... ld-turkey/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/11/its-almost-turkey-time-cold-turkey/)
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New blog post: It's Almost Turkey Time... Cold Turkey!
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/11/its- ... ld-turkey/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/11/its-almost-turkey-time-cold-turkey/)
As always, well said, Chewie!!
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New blog post:Â How Did You Find The Site?
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/01/how- ... -the-site/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/01/how-did-you-find-the-site/)
nice 2,000, brother.
thanks for all you do and congrats!
x2.......but,...MOOSE??? Googled that and nothing came up but wildlife and racing....Lol
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Hey everyone. 11-4-2012. The day I regain my life back. Thanks to this site for giving me the strength and feeling of not being alone on this adventure
- forest sills
Las Vegas. Nv
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Hey everyone. 11-4-2012. The day I regain my life back. Thanks to this site for giving me the strength and feeling of not being alone on this adventure
- forest sills
Las Vegas. Nv
well good for you, lets see you in the Feb13 group giving us your word that you will not be using nicotene for the day. Also head on over to the intro and tell your story so we can all see who it is that we are reaching out to support.
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Forest....feb13 will be the place to post your roll/your word daily, not nov12. Not sure how to post a link from my phone. Lets do this, I'll quit with you. Welcome aboard.
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My quit day will be 11/05/2012! I can't continue to allow an insignificant can at $6.51 to ruin my life! 'bang head'
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My quit day will be 11/05/2012! I can't continue to allow an insignificant can at $6.51 to ruin my life! 'bang head'
And you don't have to. Why wait until tomorrow to quit? You can quit now, flush all of your stash down the toilet, post up a day 1 over in Feb 2013, and sleep through the first 8 hours of withdrawal.
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love the new banner, hope to see one soon!
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love the new banner, hope to see one soon!
Yes. Nice work, chews.
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love the new banner, hope to see one soon!
Yes. Nice work, chews.
Great change to the banner!
I am guessing there are more hunters on this site than just about anything else.....well hunters QUITERS that is!
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love the new banner, hope to see one soon!
Yes. Nice work, chews.
Great change to the banner!
I am guessing there are more hunters on this site than just about anything else.....well hunters QUITERS that is!
Much better than those Steelers colors...
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love the new banner, hope to see one soon!
Yes. Nice work, chews.
Great change to the banner!
I am guessing there are more hunters on this site than just about anything else.....well hunters QUITERS that is!
Much better than those Steelers colors...
I see I am not the first to admire the new banner. ;)
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'usflag' CHEWIEforPresident! 'usflag'
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love the new banner, hope to see one soon!
Yes. Nice work, chews.
Great change to the banner!
I am guessing there are more hunters on this site than just about anything else.....well hunters QUITERS that is!
Much better than those Steelers colors...
I see I am not the first to admire the new banner. ;)
While I'd like to take the credit for the banner, it should all go to RoamCountry... he's got mad design skillz!
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love the new banner, hope to see one soon!
Yes. Nice work, chews.
Great change to the banner!
I am guessing there are more hunters on this site than just about anything else.....well hunters QUITERS that is!
Much better than those Steelers colors...
I see I am not the first to admire the new banner. ;)
While I'd like to take the credit for the banner, it should all go to RoamCountry... he's got mad design skillz!
hmmmm, I need a new look for my website..... maybe I should chatr with him :D
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love the new banner, hope to see one soon!
Yes. Nice work, chews.
Great change to the banner!
I am guessing there are more hunters on this site than just about anything else.....well hunters QUITERS that is!
Much better than those Steelers colors...
I see I am not the first to admire the new banner. ;)
While I'd like to take the credit for the banner, it should all go to RoamCountry... he's got mad design skillz!
hmmmm, I need a new look for my website..... maybe I should chatr with him :D
Glad you guys admire, just a small way to give back to the place that gives me so much. I LOVE this place! They even let you paint the walls! :P Thanks Chewie for allowing me the honor.
Outdoor, hit me up bro, its a hobby so would be happy to work on it for ya, I just ask for patience as I do this when the work schedule allows.
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I am quit because of me, I remain QUIT because of all of you. Thanks brothers!!
Roamcountry-200
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I am quit because of me, I remain QUIT because of all of you. Thanks brothers!!
Roamcountry-200
Nice 200 Roam!
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Happy 237th Birthday Marines!
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New blog post: Sweet Success Starts With Support
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/11/swee ... h-support/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/11/sweet-success-starts-with-support/)
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Happy 237th Birthday Marines!
SEMPER FI!!
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Happy 237th Birthday Marines!
SEMPER FI!!
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Thanks for your service to all the military and vets!
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I posted this in my quit group as well, but it is funny how I can go a full 7 - 10 days and not even think about dipping, and then one day it will hit me and my brain will keep bringing it up all day. Then, next day, it is gone. Odd.
I know we all like to personify the "Nic bitch" but at this point (50+ days) isn't it just our brains that are doing it and not the nicotine? I blame my stupid brain for needing the routine, the "old feeling", the "way it was', etc...
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I posted this in my quit group as well, but it is funny how I can go a full 7 - 10 days and not even think about dipping, and then one day it will hit me and my brain will keep bringing it up all day. Then, next day, it is gone. Odd.
I know we all like to personify the "Nic bitch" but at this point (50+ days) isn't it just our brains that are doing it and not the nicotine? I blame my stupid brain for needing the routine, the "old feeling", the "way it was', etc...
I poisoned myself for almost 30 years. It took more than 50 days to "de-program".
Don't get discouraged by a crave, or funk. You can do this.
Its much better on this side, and its worth it.
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New blog post: Celebrate Your Quit This Holiday Season
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/11/cele ... ay-season/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/11/celebrate-your-quit-this-holiday-season/)
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I quit 6 hours ago. Still didn't want to post day 1. How do I know I won't use?
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I quit 6 hours ago. Still didn't want to post day 1. How do I know I won't use?
Is your word worth a shit?
If so, post your promise you won't use for today. Today is 2 1/2 hours long if you're east coast.
You can do anything for 2 1/2 hours.
Or, are you a big puss?
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I quit 6 hours ago. Still didn't want to post day 1. How do I know I won't use?
Is your word worth a shit?
If so, post your promise you won't use for today. Today is 2 1/2 hours long if you're east coast.
You can do anything for 2 1/2 hours.
Or, are you a big puss?
:huh:
Your new and the fog is starting but your not understanding so many things here. I will try to simplify it for you.
There is a shit load of people on this site that have made the same decision you should today. I've done it, the guy above me has done it, and hundreds of others have done it for today.
SO CAN YOU!!
Are you going to let the addict inside you control your decisions or are you going to be a real man that doesn't hide from his bitch ass self by throwing cancer in his lip?
You decide. You post roll first thing when you wake up as a promise that no matter what the fuck happens you WILL NOT CAVE.
Do it, don't be a cupcake. Quit now. Post roll now. Your not a special butterfly that will have a harder time quitting than any of the other hundreds or thousands of people who do it every day on this site.
Your just like us, we are just like you, we know how it feels.... We know how it can be done. Post roll and give us the chance to help.
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No dip or nicotine on today the "great American smoke out!"
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I quit 6 hours ago. Still didn't want to post day 1. How do I know I won't use?
Is your word worth a shit?
If so, post your promise you won't use for today. Today is 2 1/2 hours long if you're east coast.
You can do anything for 2 1/2 hours.
Or, are you a big puss?
:huh:
Your new and the fog is starting but your not understanding so many things here. I will try to simplify it for you.
There is a shit load of people on this site that have made the same decision you should today. I've done it, the guy above me has done it, and hundreds of others have done it for today.
SO CAN YOU!!
Are you going to let the addict inside you control your decisions or are you going to be a real man that doesn't hide from his bitch ass self by throwing cancer in his lip?
You decide. You post roll first thing when you wake up as a promise that no matter what the fuck happens you WILL NOT CAVE.
Do it, don't be a cupcake. Quit now. Post roll now. Your not a special butterfly that will have a harder time quitting than any of the other hundreds or thousands of people who do it every day on this site.
Your just like us, we are just like you, we know how it feels.... We know how it can be done. Post roll and give us the chance to help.
I made it through day two! Lots of challenges too.
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I made it through day two! Lots of challenges too.
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Congratulations Grizzleysnuffer. The 1st days are tough but hang in there. I used the mint snuff, no tobacco or nic. It helps at least for me and several others. Different brands but the Oregon mint snuff I like. It feels more natural than some - same as beaver chew.
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I made it through day two! Lots of challenges too.
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Congratulations Grizzleysnuffer. The 1st days are tough but hang in there. I used the mint snuff, no tobacco or nic. It helps at least for me and several others. Different brands but the Oregon mint snuff I like. It feels more natural than some - same as beaver chew. [/QUOTE]
There is actually a tv commercial and YouTube video for the oregon mint snuffband beaver chew. I havent tried them all, but these were available locally.
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Also, i have found that I think less about dipping than I used to. At times, I get a strong urge now, but I dont call it a craving. Now, think about it , want it, then move on a lot easier.
I am sitting here, day 60 something, and haven't even had an urge this morning. I think the key is to occupy your mind and then the fake dip can help as well- or seeds or whatever - just to keep your gums from being lonely.
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I made it through day two! Lots of challenges too.
Congratulations Grizzleysnuffer. The 1st days are tough but hang in there. I used the mint snuff, no tobacco or nic. It helps at least for me and several others. Different brands but the Oregon mint snuff I like. It feels more natural than some - same as beaver chew. [/QUOTE]
There is actually a tv commercial and YouTube video for the oregon mint snuffband beaver chew. I havent tried them all, but these were available locally. [/QUOTE]
Thanks will have to try. I also heard good reviews about jakes mint
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One other thing. After about a week or so, i thought things would be a LOT better. I was wrong. After a month, I thought it SHOULD be over by NOW! I guess the amount of nic you are used to and the years of doing it matter in this regard. But I can say that - as many have also said on here - it does get better as the days go by. You get used to living without it.
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One other thing. After about a week or so, i thought things would be a LOT better. I was wrong. After a month, I thought it SHOULD be over by NOW! I guess the amount of nic you are used to and the years of doing it matter in this regard. But I can say that - as many have also said on here - it does get better as the days go by. You get used to living without it.
Yep... I had the same thoughts. Back in the day, figured I should feel just about back to "normal" after a month or so. Unfortunately it's not nearly that quick, but as you correctly point out it does get better daily.
Keep on keepin on!
chewie
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One other thing. After about a week or so, i thought things would be a LOT better. I was wrong. After a month, I thought it SHOULD be over by NOW! I guess the amount of nic you are used to and the years of doing it matter in this regard. But I can say that - as many have also said on here - it does get better as the days go by. You get used to living without it.
Yep... I had the same thoughts. Back in the day, figured I should feel just about back to "normal" after a month or so. Unfortunately it's not nearly that quick, but as you correctly point out it does get better daily.
Keep on keepin on!
chewie
What is "normal"? Can you define it? Do you even recollect a non-nicotine dependent you?
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One other thing. After about a week or so, i thought things would be a LOT better. I was wrong. After a month, I thought it SHOULD be over by NOW! I guess the amount of nic you are used to and the years of doing it matter in this regard. But I can say that - as many have also said on here - it does get better as the days go by. You get used to living without it.
Yep... I had the same thoughts. Back in the day, figured I should feel just about back to "normal" after a month or so. Unfortunately it's not nearly that quick, but as you correctly point out it does get better daily.
Keep on keepin on!
chewie
What is "normal"? Can you define it? Do you even recollect a non-nicotine dependent you?
Yep. Listen to LOOT. You need to rediscover who you are . . . the real you outside of slavery to the poison. It's gonna' take a while, but it's definitely worth it.
Keep strong and push forward. . . .
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One other thing. After about a week or so, i thought things would be a LOT better. I was wrong. After a month, I thought it SHOULD be over by NOW! I guess the amount of nic you are used to and the years of doing it matter in this regard. But I can say that - as many have also said on here - it does get better as the days go by. You get used to living without it.
Yep... I had the same thoughts. Back in the day, figured I should feel just about back to "normal" after a month or so. Unfortunately it's not nearly that quick, but as you correctly point out it does get better daily.
Keep on keepin on!
chewie
What is "normal"? Can you define it? Do you even recollect a non-nicotine dependent you?
A very valid point sir Loot. No, I really don't remember "normal". Hell... that was when I was 14. I can't even remember what I ate for breakfast yesterday.
That said, "normal" for me NOW is quit. And I love it.
chews
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Day 3 over. I hear 72 hours and the Nic is out of your system. Then it gets challenging. Well challenge accepted head on tonight when my wife forced me to go to Twilight opening today. Was not ready for that stress. But my resolve in quit stayed strong!
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Day 3 over. I hear 72 hours and the Nic is out of your system. Then it gets challenging. Well challenge accepted head on tonight when my wife forced me to go to Twilight opening today. Was not ready for that stress. But my resolve in quit stayed strong!
Dude... you just showed me you've got the balls to quit.
If you can make it through sparkling vampires on day #3 of your quit you're ready to tackle anything!
chewie
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New blog post: 6 Years Of Quit For KillTheCan.org
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/11/6-ye ... hecan-org/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/11/6-years-of-quit-for-killthecan-org/)
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Day 3 over. I hear 72 hours and the Nic is out of your system. Then it gets challenging. Well challenge accepted head on tonight when my wife forced me to go to Twilight opening today. Was not ready for that stress. But my resolve in quit stayed strong!
Dude... you just showed me you've got the balls to quit.
If you can make it through sparkling vampires on day #3 of your quit you're ready to tackle anything!
chewie
Thanks man. Today my 18 month screamed the whole time we were at a resteraunt. Managers came out! But "sparkling vampires" we're the challenge.
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Feeling good after day 5. Having small moments of craving that feel monumental! spicy cinnamon hard candy seem to help. Also feeling a little lost or disoriented. Definitely having headaches coming and going! Pretty amazed Im doing this cold turkey. Without any nic gum or patch. Just straight QUIT!
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Feeling good after day 5. Having small moments of craving that feel monumental! spicy cinnamon hard candy seem to help. Also feeling a little lost or disoriented. Definitely having headaches coming and going! Pretty amazed Im doing this cold turkey. Without any nic gum or patch. Just straight QUIT!
That's awesome! I'm quitting cold turkey as well and want to sleep all of the time. Day 3
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Feeling good after day 5. Having small moments of craving that feel monumental! spicy cinnamon hard candy seem to help. Also feeling a little lost or disoriented. Definitely having headaches coming and going! Pretty amazed Im doing this cold turkey. Without any nic gum or patch. Just straight QUIT!
That's awesome! I'm quitting cold turkey as well and want to sleep all of the time. Day 3
Good for you keep it up. I find that everytime I don't cave it's a personal victory. Keep up the good fight.
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Feeling good after day 5. Having small moments of craving that feel monumental! spicy cinnamon hard candy seem to help. Also feeling a little lost or disoriented. Definitely having headaches coming and going! Pretty amazed Im doing this cold turkey. Without any nic gum or patch. Just straight QUIT!
That's awesome! I'm quitting cold turkey as well and want to sleep all of the time. Day 3
Good for you keep it up. I find that everytime I don't cave it's a personal victory. Keep up the good fight.
We all crave gents but they become fewer and farther between. Shutting the door every second and not giving in everyday is the victory. We win a moment at a time. Y'all staying strong helps everyone else... Your efforts are appreciated! Day 155.
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Happy 6th Birthday KillTheCan.org! Please stop by the site-wide roll call sometime today to post roll!
index.php?showtopic=7411 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=7411)
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Got a call from Heartland Blood center.. They have some pediatric and nursery patients that needed my blood type.. So I went in and donated..
Six different kids.. Makes me very happy to know that there is no nicotine floating around in my blood so that when they give it to those kids and babies I won't be fostering an addiction in their young lives..
Because of this site and all of the ramifications and spillover blessings of getting off nicotine.. Such as taking my life back in other areas, this blood comes from a man who is arguably in the best shape of his entire adult life.
Hopefully it will help these kids get well...
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Got a call from Heartland Blood center.. They have some pediatric and nursery patients that needed my blood type.. So I went in and donated..
Six different kids.. Makes me very happy to know that there is no nicotine floating around in my blood so that when they give it to those kids and babies I won't be fostering an addiction in their young lives..
Because of this site and all of the ramifications and spillover blessings of getting off nicotine.. Such as taking my life back in other areas, this blood comes from a man who is arguably in the best shape of his entire adult life.
Hopefully it will help these kids get well...
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Congrats to indycolts727! He hit 100 today!
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Hey all... Hope I'm posting in the right place... if not point me in the right direction as this is my first real visit to the forums, but on day 13 without a dip in my mouth.
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Hey all... Hope I'm posting in the right place... if not point me in the right direction as this is my first real visit to the forums, but on day 13 without a dip in my mouth.
Welcome to the site. Best decision you've made in 16 days!
Go here (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13) and read the information that should help familiarize you to the site.
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Hey all... Hope I'm posting in the right place... if not point me in the right direction as this is my first real visit to the forums, but on day 13 without a dip in my mouth.
Welcome to the site. Best decision you've made in 16 days!
Go here (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13) and read the information that should help familiarize you to the site.
Welcome sir.
Shout if you need anything.
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Hey all... Hope I'm posting in the right place... if not point me in the right direction as this is my first real visit to the forums, but on day 13 without a dip in my mouth.
Welcome to the site. Best decision you've made in 16 days!
Go here (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13) and read the information that should help familiarize you to the site.
Welcome sir.
Shout if you need anything.
13 days?
That's HUGE!
The absolute sheer physical hell of it is past you now...
Congratz and Welcome, "Lucky 13"
Have a great Thanksgiving you have much to be thankful for like saving your face.
B)
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Just trying to get some advice or feedback. I'm in day 27 of my quit and I don't have the nic fits anymore and for the most part I can chew gum or mints and try to keep my mind off of chewing. I am finding that it is getting harder to stay focused on why I quit and I am relying more on the fake snuff to get past those times. At the beginning of my quit, the urge to stay quit was much more intense and that is fading. Is this some sort of post quit doldrums and what have guys done to get past it. I don't think I am in danger of caving but the feeling of something missing is getting stronger.
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Just trying to get some advice or feedback. I'm in day 27 of my quit and I don't have the nic fits anymore and for the most part I can chew gum or mints and try to keep my mind off of chewing. I am finding that it is getting harder to stay focused on why I quit and I am relying more on the fake snuff to get past those times. At the beginning of my quit, the urge to stay quit was much more intense and that is fading. Is this some sort of post quit doldrums and what have guys done to get past it. I don't think I am in danger of caving but the feeling of something missing is getting stronger.
We call those "doldrums" the "funks." They come and go at certain stages as our quits progress. Partly they are physical: You are coming down a bit off the intensity of the first days of struggling to stay quit. Partly they are psychological: It's tough to keep our mental focus strong without some rest every now and then. Finally, partly they are a trick of the nicBitch: She wants you to feel blah about your quit (bored); she wants to redirect your focus so that it's easier to trip you with a crave; she wants you to think that you've got this thing down when you're really just beginning.
Get into CHAT or call some brothers on the phone. Construct some plans for how you will remain quit each day. Post roll with some other quitters and get some encouragement. Most importantly, talk it over with your quit group. Many are probably experiencing the same thing.
The funks usually go away after several days. Recognize the funk for what it is and move forward.
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New blog post: Taking A Bite Out Of Big Tobacco - One Day At A Time
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/11/taki ... at-a-time/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/11/taking-a-bite-out-of-big-tobacco-one-day-at-a-time/)
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Just trying to get some advice or feedback. I'm in day 27 of my quit and I don't have the nic fits anymore and for the most part I can chew gum or mints and try to keep my mind off of chewing. I am finding that it is getting harder to stay focused on why I quit and I am relying more on the fake snuff to get past those times. At the beginning of my quit, the urge to stay quit was much more intense and that is fading. Is this some sort of post quit doldrums and what have guys done to get past it. I don't think I am in danger of caving but the feeling of something missing is getting stronger.
Hey, I'm not really that far ahead of you, day 68, but sure know the feeling. I think what you described is the reason most people who go back to tobacco DO cave. The wanting tobacco feeling is stronger than any other "feeling" at that point in time.
Sure, everyone is different, but one thing I continue to hear on this site is that you are QUIT. YOU are QUIT. I am QUIT. Your mindset has to be that you have burned the bridge and that you CANNOT go back. That you HAVE to find something else to do, think, fill your lip with, etc.
Make your promise every day to not use nic. (Sure sounds like a "homer" doesn't it) - That in itself is a motivator. That honestly saved my quit a day or two early on. I think I decided when I quit that I would find a way to make it work. I think that is a must for success.
Like you, there are days where I tend to be forgetting the reasons and I have to remind myself again - is it worth it, etc.... ? Doing things where we normally would use, special occasions, holidays .... But they tell me it continues to get better as we go along. I am still learning and I am where you are as well - and sure don't have all the answers.
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Happy Thanksgiving quitters! It's an honor to quit with all of you "today"
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Happy Thanksgiving quitters! It's an honor to quit with all of you "today"
AND Everyday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Happy Thanksgiving quitters! It's an honor to quit with all of you "today"
AND Everyday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Happy nicFree Thanksgiving!! Thanks, KTC!!
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Happy Thanksgiving quitters! It's an honor to quit with all of you "today"
AND Everyday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Happy nicFree Thanksgiving!! Thanks, KTC!!
Happy Thanksgiving. Can someone open up the GD March 13 pre-HOF group? Pleeeeeeeease :D
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Happy Thanksgiving quitters! It's an honor to quit with all of you "today"
AND Everyday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Happy nicFree Thanksgiving!! Thanks, KTC!!
Happy Thanksgiving. Can someone open up the GD March 13 pre-HOF group? Pleeeeeeeease :D
Happy thanksgiving to all. One more day of quit! Day 9
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Happy Thanksgiving quitters! It's an honor to quit with all of you "today"
AND Everyday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Happy nicFree Thanksgiving!! Thanks, KTC!!
Happy Thanksgiving. Can someone open up the GD March 13 pre-HOF group? Pleeeeeeeease :D
Happy thanksgiving to all. One more day of quit! Day 9
It's been a difficult year for me with the passing of my best friend but I am Proud and Thankful to be quit with all of you.
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Today would've been my Dad's 72nd birthday except he chain-smoked himself to death. I miss him.
But I hate Big Tobacco more than ever and I WILL not be its victim!
'Finger' Marlboro 'Finger'
Thanks, folks, I just had to get that off my chest!
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JAN 13 Question of the Day: How are you actively supporting your brothers in your group, groups before yours, and most importantly the groups after yours? Come share your answer.
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JAN 13 Question of the Day: How are you actively supporting your brothers in your group, groups before yours, and most importantly the groups after yours? Come share your answer.
Not sure about the "JAN 13" part, but what am I doing for those before, with, and after me? Nothing yet...
I plan on mentoring. I am actually working on taking the facts that I learn and share them with my brother - he is 23, his second daughter was just born, and I worry about him dipping.
I am only 30 days into my quit (or so), and am not ready to take on much more cause there are days that I seriously feel tempted due to stressors... but I will remain strong. I want to influence him though...
I freakin' regret ever smoking and chewing...
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JAN 13 Question of the Day: How are you actively supporting your brothers in your group, groups before yours, and most importantly the groups after yours? Come share your answer.
Not sure about the "JAN 13" part, but what am I doing for those before, with, and after me? Nothing yet...
I plan on mentoring. I am actually working on taking the facts that I learn and share them with my brother - he is 23, his second daughter was just born, and I worry about him dipping.
I am only 30 days into my quit (or so), and am not ready to take on much more cause there are days that I seriously feel tempted due to stressors... but I will remain strong. I want to influence him though...
I freakin' regret ever smoking and chewing...
Logan, brother, you can influence him but you cannot quit for him. I've been fighting to get my father to quit for the past year. No success. You've just got to get him the facts and make him understand what he's doing to himself. The rest is up to him, at the end of the day we all have to make a decision. I've decided to quit today, with my brothers here
Oh and to answer sportsfan question, I quit like fuck, live like fuck and lead like fuck
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Hi everyone, I'm Zach. I decided to quit on November 27. I was alarmed when i was brushing my teeth and noticed how much my gums had receded in the areas where i place my dips. I just quit smoking about 2 months ago and started dipping a whole lot more since then but I am DONE! Any advice? Also will my gums begin to go back to normal or am i S.O.L.?
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Hi Zach, you have made the right choice. You have also come to the right place where you will get all the support or asskicking you need. Go back to the main page and type your introduction under the introduction section, you will find many others there. Also, at the top of your screen is a salmon colored WELCOME CENTER, click on that and learn about posting roll and what it means here. Good decision to quit! Spend time here on Kill the Can and read, read, read, and read some more. We have all gone through what you are and we are here to help you. If you have any questions just send me a pm, we are here. Mike
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Hi everyone, I'm Zach. I decided to quit on November 27. I was alarmed when i was brushing my teeth and noticed how much my gums had receded in the areas where i place my dips. I just quit smoking about 2 months ago and started dipping a whole lot more since then but I am DONE! Any advice? Also will my gums begin to go back to normal or am i S.O.L.?
I think the real question to ask yourself is if you want your gums to get worse. Don't debate how bad they are now, you will fall into a trap of thinking "well they're already fucked up, might as well keep going". Bullshit. Quitting now will prevent them from getting worse. Take control of your life man.
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Would like to here what others have to say about this topic.
I am on day 7 of my quit. I doing well. Cravings are not so bad right now. I have found that packing the lip with some dregs from a used tea bag helps with the oral fixation of having something in your mouth. I had to do something. I've chewed so much gum my jaws are sore. I am convinced I will beat this! Here's to the nic bitch.... 'Finger' !!
So here is the real question I have. How do you get through the grieving for a very dear friend? I know that the can was never my friend. But that doesn't change the feelings I have. The dip and can have been a part of my identity for many many years. Where ever I went the can was in my pocket and the turd was in my jaw. It really does feel like I lost a dear friend to death.
I guess what people say may be true. It will get better with time. I refuse to go back and be a slave to the can anymore. I just wish this feeling would get the hell out of here.
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Would like to here what others have to say about this topic.
I am on day 7 of my quit. I doing well. Cravings are not so bad right now. I have found that packing the lip with some dregs from a used tea bag helps with the oral fixation of having something in your mouth. I had to do something. I've chewed so much gum my jaws are sore. I am convinced I will beat this! Here's to the nic bitch.... 'Finger' !!
So here is the real question I have. How do you get through the grieving for a very dear friend? I know that the can was never my friend. But that doesn't change the feelings I have. The dip and can have been a part of my identity for many many years. Where ever I went the can was in my pocket and the turd was in my jaw. It really does feel like I lost a dear friend to death.
I guess what people say may be true. It will get better with time. I refuse to go back and be a slave to the can anymore. I just wish this feeling would get the hell out of here.
I felt the same way, I wrote this a little over a year ago:
Day 136
On one of the threads today, a quitter mentioned that he felt like he was loosing himself by loosing all of his addictions. That mindset is certainly something I can relate to as it is a part of my "addict brain". That part of the brain that I have to make a conscious choice to battle every day.
The first few years of my dipping, I felt bad ass about it. It was a baseball player/ lumberjack thing. It kind of sticks in your subconscious that way. Coffee was the same way, and likewise for alcohol...It was the "adult" thing to do. Made me feel badass when I had some coffee at 12, just like the grown ups, just like my dad. Or when I was sneaking that swig, just like my older brothers..I'd like to say that I've grown up a little since then, but there are many parts of my brain that have not. I am in the process of retraining my brain to understand that chew is not cool, it is not a badass, grown up, baseball player, lumberjack thing to do. I am also teaching it that coffee has nothing to do with being grown up, nothing to do with being a man, ..Problem is, those parts of my brain still want to be 12. They don't want to be taught to be different than they have been. After all, I've left those parts of my brain that way for over 30 years.
While I am glad that progress has been made, the retraining is nowhere near complete. To some extent, it may not be for the rest of my life. The good news is despite ups and downs, the battle gets easier even if it is never over. I do know one thing: there is no standing still, no treading water. Every day is a push for progress. Every day is a day to overcome my addict's brain. The first step is to remind myself that I am an addict. The day I get up and forget that is the day I start sliding backwards into the abyss of addiction. That is why I am here. So I don't forget.
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Would like to here what others have to say about this topic.
I am on day 7 of my quit. I doing well. Cravings are not so bad right now. I have found that packing the lip with some dregs from a used tea bag helps with the oral fixation of having something in your mouth. I had to do something. I've chewed so much gum my jaws are sore. I am convinced I will beat this! Here's to the nic bitch.... 'Finger' !!
So here is the real question I have. How do you get through the grieving for a very dear friend? I know that the can was never my friend. But that doesn't change the feelings I have. The dip and can have been a part of my identity for many many years. Where ever I went the can was in my pocket and the turd was in my jaw. It really does feel like I lost a dear friend to death.
I guess what people say may be true. It will get better with time. I refuse to go back and be a slave to the can anymore. I just wish this feeling would get the hell out of here.
I felt the same way, I wrote this a little over a year ago:
Day 136
On one of the threads today, a quitter mentioned that he felt like he was loosing himself by loosing all of his addictions. That mindset is certainly something I can relate to as it is a part of my "addict brain". That part of the brain that I have to make a conscious choice to battle every day.
The first few years of my dipping, I felt bad ass about it. It was a baseball player/ lumberjack thing. It kind of sticks in your subconscious that way. Coffee was the same way, and likewise for alcohol...It was the "adult" thing to do. Made me feel badass when I had some coffee at 12, just like the grown ups, just like my dad. Or when I was sneaking that swig, just like my older brothers..I'd like to say that I've grown up a little since then, but there are many parts of my brain that have not. I am in the process of retraining my brain to understand that chew is not cool, it is not a badass, grown up, baseball player, lumberjack thing to do. I am also teaching it that coffee has nothing to do with being grown up, nothing to do with being a man, ..Problem is, those parts of my brain still want to be 12. They don't want to be taught to be different than they have been. After all, I've left those parts of my brain that way for over 30 years.
While I am glad that progress has been made, the retraining is nowhere near complete. To some extent, it may not be for the rest of my life. The good news is despite ups and downs, the battle gets easier even if it is never over. I do know one thing: there is no standing still, no treading water. Every day is a push for progress. Every day is a day to overcome my addict's brain. The first step is to remind myself that I am an addict. The day I get up and forget that is the day I start sliding backwards into the abyss of addiction. That is why I am here. So I don't forget.
Letting go is painful. Hang on for the best to come....freedom...it's worth it.
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Would like to here what others have to say about this topic.
I am on day 7 of my quit. I doing well. Cravings are not so bad right now. I have found that packing the lip with some dregs from a used tea bag helps with the oral fixation of having something in your mouth. I had to do something. I've chewed so much gum my jaws are sore. I am convinced I will beat this! Here's to the nic bitch.... 'Finger' !!
So here is the real question I have. How do you get through the grieving for a very dear friend? I know that the can was never my friend. But that doesn't change the feelings I have. The dip and can have been a part of my identity for many many years. Where ever I went the can was in my pocket and the turd was in my jaw. It really does feel like I lost a dear friend to death.
I guess what people say may be true. It will get better with time. I refuse to go back and be a slave to the can anymore. I just wish this feeling would get the hell out of here.
Time gets you through that feeling and around here we measure time in days. So just keep on track with your quit and it will go away. You'll find that the "sadness" happens less frequently, you'll find that you recognize it for what it is (the nic bitch in your brain), you'll find that it goes away with just a though of "oh yeah, I don't do that anymore".
You'll also find that the feeling come out of nowhere to surprise you at times. It's part of quitting. Insidious shit these scientists of death of came up with isn't it? Those fuckers. It's the siren's call of death, not a real long lost friend.
I PROMISE YOU THAT IT GETS BETTER. You don't have to "guess" it gets better with time. It does. You will not be having these feelings forever.
I can spend two days in Vegas casino's, drinking and gambling, and never have the feeling.
One day at a time.
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Would like to here what others have to say about this topic.
I am on day 7 of my quit. I doing well. Cravings are not so bad right now. I have found that packing the lip with some dregs from a used tea bag helps with the oral fixation of having something in your mouth. I had to do something. I've chewed so much gum my jaws are sore. I am convinced I will beat this! Here's to the nic bitch.... 'Finger' !!
So here is the real question I have. How do you get through the grieving for a very dear friend? I know that the can was never my friend. But that doesn't change the feelings I have. The dip and can have been a part of my identity for many many years. Where ever I went the can was in my pocket and the turd was in my jaw. It really does feel like I lost a dear friend to death.
I guess what people say may be true. It will get better with time. I refuse to go back and be a slave to the can anymore. I just wish this feeling would get the hell out of here.
Time gets you through that feeling and around here we measure time in days. So just keep on track with your quit and it will go away. You'll find that the "sadness" happens less frequently, you'll find that you recognize it for what it is (the nic bitch in your brain), you'll find that it goes away with just a though of "oh yeah, I don't do that anymore".
You'll also find that the feeling come out of nowhere to surprise you at times. It's part of quitting. Insidious shit these scientists of death of came up with isn't it? Those fuckers. It's the siren's call of death, not a real long lost friend.
I PROMISE YOU THAT IT GETS BETTER. You don't have to "guess" it gets better with time. It does. You will not be having these feelings forever.
I can spend two days in Vegas casino's, drinking and gambling, and never have the feeling.
One day at a time.
I said this before, but damned if i can go back and find it. Addiction is part of you, whether you are actively using or quit. When using, your routines are centered around your addiction either consciously or sub consciously. When you quit, all those routines need to be reset.
Its akin to losing a limb. Folks have that phantom feeling, where they swear they can stool feel their hand or fingers or toes. They try and do things as normal, like nothing has changed. They are in denial that their whole life has changed. Addicts are no different, albeit with all of our limbs.
My suggestion? Give in to the fact you are an addict. Recognize that most, if not all of your routines were built on serving your addiction. Change them. Realize that you can mow the lawn, drive a car, take a dump, etc without a dip. Do it. If it helps, change something about how you do these tasks.
Most importantly, realize that your lifetime companion was killing you. Slowly but surely. Do not grieve for the loss, celebrate what you have gained. Freedom. Those routines you were chained to? How much time did they cost you with loved ones or doing things you would rather be doing? Focus on the positives.
Ultimately, your quit will be strong and wise enough to recognize that you were enthralled to your can. It was no companion, it was a jailer. Do not mourn, for you have not lost. Celebrate what you have taken. FREEDOM is beautiful thing.
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"My suggestion? Give in to the fact you are an addict. Recognize that most, if not all of your routines were built on serving your addiction" - very wise words from J2B
Those of you who still think you loved to dip have not come to grips with the fact you are a drug addict. Dip made you feel cool. It made you feel manly. It made you feel country. It made you feel whatever it needed you to feel so you would be addicted. It was not your lover or your friend. It was your master, and you it's slave. Step back and open your eyes. You have been blindly feeding your drug addiction. Repeat after me " I am and always will be a fucking drug addict." As J2B says, accept this and move on.
Slam the door, burn the boats, burn the bridge, ban the shit. Never again. Not once. Do this and you too can enjoy freedom with your entire face.
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"My suggestion? Give in to the fact you are an addict. Recognize that most, if not all of your routines were built on serving your addiction" - very wise words from J2B
Those of you who still think you loved to dip have not come to grips with the fact you are a drug addict. Dip made you feel cool. It made you feel manly. It made you feel country. It made you feel whatever it needed you to feel so you would be addicted. It was not your lover or your friend. It was your master, and you it's slave. Step back and open your eyes. You have been blindly feeding your drug addiction. Repeat after me " I am and always will be a fucking drug addict." As J2B says, accept this and move on.
Slam the door, burn the boats, burn the bridge, ban the shit. Never again. Not once. Do this and you too can enjoy freedom with your entire face.
It made you feel whatever you needed to feel...
Damned fine words, NDY.
Never again. Don't romanticize it. Dipping absolutely sucks. No way you love something that has to trick you into the relationship. Never again.
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Nice work on the new banner!! My favorite season is Winter!!
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Nice work on the new banner!! My favorite season is Winter!!
X2 on the banner...other than winter being my favorite season....
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Nice work on the new banner!! My favorite season is Winter!!
X2 on the banner...other than winter being my favorite season....
The banner looks great. Winter however sucks....
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Nice work on the new banner!! My favorite season is Winter!!
X2 on the banner...other than winter being my favorite season....
The banner looks great. Winter however sucks....
Special thanks to Rocketman for the photos!
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Nice work on the new banner!! My favorite season is Winter!!
X2 on the banner...other than winter being my favorite season....
The banner looks great. Winter however sucks....
Special thanks to Rocketman for the photos!
You did that Roam?
It is...stunning. Thanks.
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Nice work on the new banner!! My favorite season is Winter!!
X2 on the banner...other than winter being my favorite season....
The banner looks great. Winter however sucks....
Special thanks to Rocketman for the photos!
You did that Roam?
It is...stunning. Thanks.
Yessir, fine job. And I love Winter. It don't snow or ice here though. Just the highs move from the 100s to the 80s. Maybe well get some 50s by February.
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Nice work on the new banner!! My favorite season is Winter!!
X2 on the banner...other than winter being my favorite season....
The banner looks great. Winter however sucks....
Special thanks to Rocketman for the photos!
You did that Roam?
It is...stunning. Thanks.
Yessir, fine job. And I love Winter. It don't snow or ice here though. Just the highs move from the 100s to the 80s. Maybe well get some 50s by February.
Hell yeah! Nice work, Roam!
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Nice work on the new banner!! My favorite season is Winter!!
X2 on the banner...other than winter being my favorite season....
The banner looks great. Winter however sucks....
Special thanks to Rocketman for the photos!
You did that Roam?
It is...stunning. Thanks.
Yessir, fine job. And I love Winter. It don't snow or ice here though. Just the highs move from the 100s to the 80s. Maybe well get some 50s by February.
Hell yeah! Nice work, Roam!
Even though I sexted you my thanks, ill say it again here. Awesome header. Thanks.
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Alright guys day 20 and I keep getting grouchier. I'm snapping at small things like when people don't get to the pint when they're talking to me. My work crew and I had a great relationship but now they're stand offish. Which I understand. My quit is staying strong and I'm not urging I just want any advice on dealing with the rage. It comes from nowhere and blindsides me 'bang head'
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Alright guys day 20 and I keep getting grouchier. I'm snapping at small things like when people don't get to the pint when they're talking to me. My work crew and I had a great relationship but now they're stand offish. Which I understand. My quit is staying strong and I'm not urging I just want any advice on dealing with the rage. It comes from nowhere and blindsides me 'bang head'
You're starting to enter the first major funk, this will pass. As far as the rage goes, dump it on us, come in chat and scream all you want! Let it all hang out here so you can be better there. Quit with you today.
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Alright guys day 20 and I keep getting grouchier. I'm snapping at small things like when people don't get to the pint when they're talking to me. My work crew and I had a great relationship but now they're stand offish. Which I understand. My quit is staying strong and I'm not urging I just want any advice on dealing with the rage. It comes from nowhere and blindsides me 'bang head'
You're starting to enter the first major funk, this will pass. As far as the rage goes, dump it on us, come in chat and scream all you want! Let it all hang out here so you can be better there. Quit with you today.
Dude I hear ya, that was the worst, "JUST GET TO THE FUCKING POINT ALREADY!!!" or when people used pronouns I'd say "WHO'S THEY!!!!!"
Roam's right, it does get better, this isn't permanent.
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For no apparent reason I just seem to be pissed. I am pissed at myself for getting hooked on this shit to begin with. I'm pissed at my parents because they did not forbid me to use chewing tobacco. i'm pissed that I spent so much money on a stupid habit. I'm pissed that I swallowed the whole "Just a pinch between your cheek and gum" spill hook line and sinker. Can you believe I really believed that using skoal made me cool?
i'm pissed because there is no reward at the end. This is a forever deal. I will always be quitting. There will not be a day at the end when it will be ok for me to take a log of RedSeal fine cut wintergreen to the lake and use up the whole log while fishing the day away. There will never be a day when I can have "just one" and it be ok. No, that would be disaster and we would start at day one with "the suck" again. Then I would really be pissed!
I am trying to tell me wife I love her and she just needs to bear with me through all this bullshit. Even she pisses me off sometimes.
I didn't say any of it made sense. It's just the way I feel at the moment. A very large cloud os pissiness!
I know! This too shall pass.
Thanks for providing a place where I can come and just vent. No matter how much or how little sense it might make.
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For no apparent reason I just seem to be pissed. I am pissed at myself for getting hooked on this shit to begin with. I'm pissed at my parents because they did not forbid me to use chewing tobacco. i'm pissed that I spent so much money on a stupid habit. I'm pissed that I swallowed the whole "Just a pinch between your cheek and gum" spill hook line and sinker. Can you believe I really believed that using skoal made me cool?
i'm pissed because there is no reward at the end. This is a forever deal. I will always be quitting. There will not be a day at the end when it will be ok for me to take a log of RedSeal fine cut wintergreen to the lake and use up the whole log while fishing the day away. There will never be a day when I can have "just one" and it be ok. No, that would be disaster and we would start at day one with "the suck" again. Then I would really be pissed!
I am trying to tell me wife I love her and she just needs to bear with me through all this bullshit. Even she pisses me off sometimes.
I didn't say any of it made sense. It's just the way I feel at the moment. A very large cloud os pissiness!
I know! This too shall pass.
Thanks for providing a place where I can come and just vent. No matter how much or how little sense it might make.
Rant on brother.
Know this. Freedom is the reward... here's something from my intro:
Day 57
Life just keeps getting better. I took my daughter to church last night, I was happy to take her. I'm ashamed to admit that was not always the case: drive time used to be my time to feed my addiction, passengers were not welcome.
I paused yesterday to think about how my family always got to see me at my worst, they always got to see me in withdrawal, when I couldn't wait to sneak away and feed the need. The nic-be-otch and I always met in secret. I'm not her prisoner any more....
The chains are falling away....
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For no apparent reason I just seem to be pissed. I am pissed at myself for getting hooked on this shit to begin with. I'm pissed at my parents because they did not forbid me to use chewing tobacco. i'm pissed that I spent so much money on a stupid habit. I'm pissed that I swallowed the whole "Just a pinch between your cheek and gum" spill hook line and sinker. Can you believe I really believed that using skoal made me cool?Â
i'm pissed because there is no reward at the end. This is a forever deal. I will always be quitting. There will not be a day at the end when it will be ok for me to take a log of RedSeal fine cut wintergreen to the lake and use up the whole log while fishing the day away. There will never be a day when I can have "just one" and it be ok. No, that would be disaster and we would start at day one with "the suck" again. Then I would really be pissed!
I am trying to tell me wife I love her and she just needs to bear with me through all this bullshit. Even she pisses me off sometimes.Â
I didn't say any of it made sense. It's just the way I feel at the moment. A very large cloud os pissiness!Â
I know! This too shall pass.
Thanks for providing a place where I can come and just vent. No matter how much or how little sense it might make.
Rant on brother.
Know this. Freedom is the reward... here's something from my intro:
Day 57
Life just keeps getting better. I took my daughter to church last night, I was happy to take her. I'm ashamed to admit that was not always the case: drive time used to be my time to feed my addiction, passengers were not welcome.
I paused yesterday to think about how my family always got to see me at my worst, they always got to see me in withdrawal, when I couldn't wait to sneak away and feed the need. The nic-be-otch and I always met in secret. I'm not her prisoner any more....
The chains are falling away....
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There is a reward. There are lots of them. You just can't see them thru the fog of a new quit. Here is just a small list of rewards LOOT has gained:
- 2 kids that will never, ever know their daddy is an addict, even tho he knows it all too well.
- can kiss Mrs. LOOT anytime, anyplace, anywhere and not have to worry
- can go anyplace, anytime, and anywhere ol LOOT wants and not have to make sure there is enough Copenhagen to last or there is a place to get it.
- no hidden cans. no hidden spit bottles.
- Momma LOOT is proud...damned proud of her son. And 7.5+ years later, she still lets him know.
LOOT's got it made bro. No craves. No hidden triggers to deal with. Nothing...at all, ever.
You'd walk thru fire to live in these shoes for 1 single day...and the fuct up part of it is...you will before it's over with. It's the nature of the beast. It's the way it's gotta be. And LOOT wouldn't want it any other way for you. It comes with a price for a reason. But, you know this don't you?
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I'm new here and have set a date to quit. I quit once before and started again a few months ago. This stuff really sucks!! But back to the same old habits - after a meal, while driving, when hunting, when fishing, blah-blah-blah. The best (worst) part is that the better half is pissed as well. And i dont blame her!! Its time to get back on that road of kicking this nasty habit once and for all!!
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I'm new here and have set a date to quit. I quit once before and started again a few months ago. This stuff really sucks!! But back to the same old habits - after a meal, while driving, when hunting, when fishing, blah-blah-blah. The best (worst) part is that the better half is pissed as well. And i dont blame her!! Its time to get back on that road of kicking this nasty habit once and for all!!
Herbie...sugar, why you wanna wait? What good will waiting do? Get your shit together and go flush it all down the toilet. You are just prolonging the inevitable. Or...you'll make up a bunch of excuses why your quit date isn't such a good quit date afterall.
You've made your first post...seize the momentum and make the 2nd one a Day 1. We will help you get thru it.
Welcome to the site.
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I'm new here and have set a date to quit. I quit once before and started again a few months ago. This stuff really sucks!! But back to the same old habits - after a meal, while driving, when hunting, when fishing, blah-blah-blah. The best (worst) part is that the better half is pissed as well. And i dont blame her!! Its time to get back on that road of kicking this nasty habit once and for all!!
Herbie...sugar, why you wanna wait? What good will waiting do? Get your shit together and go flush it all down the toilet. You are just prolonging the inevitable. Or...you'll make up a bunch of excuses why your quit date isn't such a good quit date afterall.
You've made your first post...seize the momentum and make the 2nd one a Day 1. We will help you get thru it.
Welcome to the site.
You don't know it yet herbie, but you've just been given the greatest Christmas present you could ever receive. Ol LOOT here knows more about quitting than Big Tobacco knows about poisoning people. Stick to his hip and he'll get your to where you're going... freedom.
chewie
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I'm new here and have set a date to quit. I quit once before and started again a few months ago. This stuff really sucks!! But back to the same old habits - after a meal, while driving, when hunting, when fishing, blah-blah-blah. The best (worst) part is that the better half is pissed as well. And i dont blame her!! Its time to get back on that road of kicking this nasty habit once and for all!!
Herbie...sugar, why you wanna wait? What good will waiting do? Get your shit together and go flush it all down the toilet. You are just prolonging the inevitable. Or...you'll make up a bunch of excuses why your quit date isn't such a good quit date afterall.
You've made your first post...seize the momentum and make the 2nd one a Day 1. We will help you get thru it.
Welcome to the site.
You don't know it yet herbie, but you've just been given the greatest Christmas present you could ever receive. Ol LOOT here knows more about quitting than Big Tobacco knows about poisoning people. Stick to his hip and he'll get your to where you're going... freedom.
chewie
Herbie ya got some heavy hitters offering you a helping hand...My advice: Grab hold and hold on like your life depends upon it...because it does!
Ask yourself a question: Do you want to Be Quit or do you want to talk about quitting...someday?
MOA
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I'm new here and have set a date to quit. I quit once before and started again a few months ago. This stuff really sucks!! But back to the same old habits - after a meal, while driving, when hunting, when fishing, blah-blah-blah. The best (worst) part is that the better half is pissed as well. And i dont blame her!! Its time to get back on that road of kicking this nasty habit once and for all!!
Herbie...sugar, why you wanna wait? What good will waiting do? Get your shit together and go flush it all down the toilet. You are just prolonging the inevitable. Or...you'll make up a bunch of excuses why your quit date isn't such a good quit date afterall.
You've made your first post...seize the momentum and make the 2nd one a Day 1. We will help you get thru it.
Welcome to the site.
You don't know it yet herbie, but you've just been given the greatest Christmas present you could ever receive. Ol LOOT here knows more about quitting than Big Tobacco knows about poisoning people. Stick to his hip and he'll get your to where you're going... freedom.
chewie
Herbie ya got some heavy hitters offering you a helping hand...My advice: Grab hold and hold on like your life depends upon it...because it does!
Ask yourself a question: Do you want to Be Quit or do you want to talk about quitting...someday?
MOA
Herbie, best decision I made was just to quit. Think of it this way. When was the best time to plant a tree. 20 years ago. The second best time is right now. Take your life back. I quit with you today!
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I'm new here and have set a date to quit. I quit once before and started again a few months ago. This stuff really sucks!! But back to the same old habits - after a meal, while driving, when hunting, when fishing, blah-blah-blah. The best (worst) part is that the better half is pissed as well. And i dont blame her!! Its time to get back on that road of kicking this nasty habit once and for all!!
Herbie...sugar, why you wanna wait? What good will waiting do? Get your shit together and go flush it all down the toilet. You are just prolonging the inevitable. Or...you'll make up a bunch of excuses why your quit date isn't such a good quit date afterall.
You've made your first post...seize the momentum and make the 2nd one a Day 1. We will help you get thru it.
Welcome to the site.
You don't know it yet herbie, but you've just been given the greatest Christmas present you could ever receive. Ol LOOT here knows more about quitting than Big Tobacco knows about poisoning people. Stick to his hip and he'll get your to where you're going... freedom.
chewie
Herbie ya got some heavy hitters offering you a helping hand...My advice: Grab hold and hold on like your life depends upon it...because it does!
Ask yourself a question: Do you want to Be Quit or do you want to talk about quitting...someday?
MOA
Herbie, there is a shit ton of Quit right here, right now, offering you the lifeline you're looking for.
But its right here.
Right.
Now.
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I'm new here and have set a date to quit. I quit once before and started again a few months ago. This stuff really sucks!! But back to the same old habits - after a meal, while driving, when hunting, when fishing, blah-blah-blah. The best (worst) part is that the better half is pissed as well. And i dont blame her!! Its time to get back on that road of kicking this nasty habit once and for all!!
Herbie...sugar, why you wanna wait? What good will waiting do? Get your shit together and go flush it all down the toilet. You are just prolonging the inevitable. Or...you'll make up a bunch of excuses why your quit date isn't such a good quit date afterall.
You've made your first post...seize the momentum and make the 2nd one a Day 1. We will help you get thru it.
Welcome to the site.
You don't know it yet herbie, but you've just been given the greatest Christmas present you could ever receive. Ol LOOT here knows more about quitting than Big Tobacco knows about poisoning people. Stick to his hip and he'll get your to where you're going... freedom.
chewie
Herbie ya got some heavy hitters offering you a helping hand...My advice: Grab hold and hold on like your life depends upon it...because it does!
Ask yourself a question: Do you want to Be Quit or do you want to talk about quitting...someday?
MOA
Herbie, there is a shit ton of Quit right here, right now, offering you the lifeline you're looking for.
But its right here.
Right.
Now.
Herbie, Do IT NOW!! No time like the present to quit. There is no good, bad or best time to quit.. There is only now. It's going to suck no matter when you do it so you might as well embrace the suck and get to it.
Another thing. Someone corrected me recently on my use of the word "Habit". This is not a habit we have. A habit is saying "you know" and "So" after every phrase you say. Habit is scratching your nuts and adjusting your sack all the time. Or it could be a serious medical condition and you better go get your nuts checked! :wacko:
What we have here with the Nic Bitch is a full blown "ADDICTION" It's no different than someone hooked on crack, or meth, or heroine or any other drug. Again, this is not a habit, it is an addiction. Get used to that word. you will hear it alot.
You have a bunch of brothers here who will help you through all the tough spots with your quit if you will let them. PM me. I'll support you all that I can. I'm a 36 year user and i'm on my 12th day of my quit. I know how tough it is. So stop the date setting crap. Start NOW!!
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Another question from Tennessee. I love to brew my own beer. At any one time I may have 2 or 3 five gallon brews going at a time. But beer is a powerful trigger for me to want to dip. So I'm wondering what the advice of you veterans would be about drinking. How long should I keep my quit going before I give it a try? I'm scared to even think about it right now just being 12 days out.
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How can we get some meet and greets initiated? I would love to meet some of the guys in my area and especially guys who are in my quit group.
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Another question from Tennessee. I love to brew my own beer. At any one time I may have 2 or 3 five gallon brews going at a time. But beer is a powerful trigger for me to want to dip. So I'm wondering what the advice of you veterans would be about drinking. How long should I keep my quit going before I give it a try? I'm scared to even think about it right now just being 12 days out.
Mike,
Where you from in TN? I just booked a business trip to TN for next week Mon-Wed...
Anyone else from TN? I am going to be in the Smyrna, TN area for a couple nights if anyone wants to grab dinner or a beer.
~Kuss
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Another question from Tennessee. I love to brew my own beer. At any one time I may have 2 or 3 five gallon brews going at a time. But beer is a powerful trigger for me to want to dip. So I'm wondering what the advice of you veterans would be about drinking. How long should I keep my quit going before I give it a try? I'm scared to even think about it right now just being 12 days out.
My opinion is that it is different for everybody... but you should wait several weeks, at least. You can never go wrong by making your quit priority #1 and doing everything you can to protect it.
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Another question from Tennessee. I love to brew my own beer. At any one time I may have 2 or 3 five gallon brews going at a time.  But beer is a powerful trigger for me to want to dip. So I'm wondering what the advice of you veterans would be about drinking. How long should I keep my quit going before I give it a try? I'm scared to even think about it right now just being 12 days out.
Mike,
Where you from in TN? I just booked a business trip to TN for next week Mon-Wed...
Anyone else from TN? I am going to be in the Smyrna, TN area for a couple nights if anyone wants to grab dinner or a beer.
~Kuss
index.php?showforum=34 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=34)
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How can we get some meet and greets initiated? I would love to meet some of the guys in my area and especially guys who are in my quit group.
Go here. (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=34)
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Another question from Tennessee. I love to brew my own beer. At any one time I may have 2 or 3 five gallon brews going at a time.  But beer is a powerful trigger for me to want to dip. So I'm wondering what the advice of you veterans would be about drinking. How long should I keep my quit going before I give it a try? I'm scared to even think about it right now just being 12 days out.
Mike,
Where you from in TN? I just booked a business trip to TN for next week Mon-Wed...
Anyone else from TN? I am going to be in the Smyrna, TN area for a couple nights if anyone wants to grab dinner or a beer.
~Kuss
index.php?showforum=34 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=34)
I linked mine.
Rookie.
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Another question from Tennessee. I love to brew my own beer. At any one time I may have 2 or 3 five gallon brews going at a time.  But beer is a powerful trigger for me to want to dip. So I'm wondering what the advice of you veterans would be about drinking. How long should I keep my quit going before I give it a try? I'm scared to even think about it right now just being 12 days out.
Mike,
Where you from in TN? I just booked a business trip to TN for next week Mon-Wed...
Anyone else from TN? I am going to be in the Smyrna, TN area for a couple nights if anyone wants to grab dinner or a beer.
~Kuss
index.php?showforum=34 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=34)
I linked mine.
Rookie.
Found it...thanks brother!
I threw it up in the right spot now...
~Kuss
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Another question from Tennessee. I love to brew my own beer. At any one time I may have 2 or 3 five gallon brews going at a time.  But beer is a powerful trigger for me to want to dip. So I'm wondering what the advice of you veterans would be about drinking. How long should I keep my quit going before I give it a try? I'm scared to even think about it right now just being 12 days out.
My opinion is that it is different for everybody... but you should wait several weeks, at least. You can never go wrong by making your quit priority #1 and doing everything you can to protect it.
Rule of thumb, that varies for everyone:
Stay off all booze for 50 days. Don't get loaded until at least HOF, possibly longer.
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I linked mine.
Rookie.
'arse'
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Another question from Tennessee. I love to brew my own beer. At any one time I may have 2 or 3 five gallon brews going at a time.  But beer is a powerful trigger for me to want to dip. So I'm wondering what the advice of you veterans would be about drinking. How long should I keep my quit going before I give it a try? I'm scared to even think about it right now just being 12 days out.
My opinion is that it is different for everybody... but you should wait several weeks, at least. You can never go wrong by making your quit priority #1 and doing everything you can to protect it.
Rule of thumb, that varies for everyone:
Stay off all booze for 50 days. Don't get loaded until at least HOF, possibly longer.
Since you can't drink it send some up my way!
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some general musings: I am really starting to think i might be getting to comfortable with this quit thing. On at least three occasions today I had the thought "I Got This!" I have been here before and I know better than anyone else that this is a dangerous spot to be in. Because I know that I do not have this. It has me and will always have me. Thus I must stay diligent in guarding my quit. I had a professional counselor tell me one time that addictions are very sneaky. They will lay low and when you least expect it they will slip up behind you and knock you in the back of the head. I've had this happen to me with chew and I've seen it happen to close relatives with nicotine and other drugs of choice. Your support in maintaining my quit is appreciated. Thanks for listening to my random rambling.
This site is a great place to come and vent or just rattle on about anything. I have found that just writing stuff and posting it to the site is a big help in fighting the addiction. Thanks for being good listeners.
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some general musings: I am really starting to think i might be getting to comfortable with this quit thing. On at least three occasions today I had the thought "I Got This!" I have been here before and I know better than anyone else that this is a dangerous spot to be in. Because I know that I do not have this. It has me and will always have me. Thus I must stay diligent in guarding my quit. I had a professional counselor tell me one time that addictions are very sneaky. They will lay low and when you least expect it they will slip up behind you and knock you in the back of the head. I've had this happen to me with chew and I've seen it happen to close relatives with nicotine and other drugs of choice. Your support in maintaining my quit is appreciated. Thanks for listening to my random rambling.
This site is a great place to come and vent or just rattle on about anything. I have found that just writing stuff and posting it to the site is a big help in fighting the addiction. Thanks for being good listeners.
The quit is strong with this one.
The same sage advice is offered here for free. Read. Read. Read.
However, YOU are in control. YOU control your addiction...it does NOT control you any longer. Stay in control. Only you can fuck yourself. We will not allow that to happen.
Quit on ML...quit on.
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When we don't cave when we're weak shows how strong we are. Day 23
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I want to get this seen by some people. Could be a great event to plan toward.
in missoula montana.
I'll be there sir... can't wait.
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I want to get this seen by some people. Could be a great event to plan toward.
in missoula montana.
I'll be there sir... can't wait.
This looks like a fantastic event. Too bad it isn't in the United States somewhere instead of this Montana place. Don't forget to get your Passport ready Chewie!
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Random thought...
Day 187 and my quit seems to be going very smooth. Still some bumps, mainly when I tackle tasks I've never tackled dip free before but all in all in relation to "every day life", I find myself doing better and better.
As I drove for 4 hrs today I pondered why and came to the conclusion I am not using will power to quit anymore. In the early days will power was all I used. That's because you use will power when you think you are giving up something pleasurable.
Even though I knew that not chewing was the right move, I honestly believed I was giving something "good" up and it pissed me off and stressed me out...not being able to dip only added to this stress. It was a nightmare and a vicious cycle of frustration and only will power kept me quit.
I couldn't continue to be quit with will power alone, it would be torture and just too hard. I would either cave or TOTALLY flip out (my body had already mildly flopped out). It wasn't until I really started reading and educating myself on nicotine addictiont that I realized I wasn't giving up anything pleasurable, I was giving up something that was controlling my life and trying to kill me.
It was FEAR that I really needed to give up. Fear that nic gave me confidence, fear that nic made me sociable, fear that nic relaxed me, fear that nic made "things" better. That was all bullshit. Once I gave those fears up, I quit relying on will power to quit and realized I wasn't giving up a God Damn thing.
I read people with more days quit than me say that they still battle the nic bitch everyday. I don't believe that should be the case. Will every day be easy? Hell no, but I think those that are past the HOF and still fight nic daily are still using will power to quit. I think they need to fight their fears of quitting for things to get easier. I think winning that battle is the true way to freedom.
Again, these are just MY random thoughts. Thanks for reading and STAY QUIT!!'
Diesel2112
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Random thought...
Day 187 and my quit seems to be going very smooth. Still some bumps, mainly when I tackle tasks I've never tackled dip free before but all in all in relation to "every day life", I find myself doing better and better.
As I drove for 4 hrs today I pondered why and came to the conclusion I am not using will power to quit anymore. In the early days will power was all I used. That's because you use will power when you think you are giving up something pleasurable.
Even though I knew that not chewing was the right move, I honestly believed I was giving something "good" up and it pissed me off and stressed me out...not being able to dip only added to this stress. It was a nightmare and a vicious cycle of frustration and only will power kept me quit.
I couldn't continue to be quit with will power alone, it would be torture and just too hard. I would either cave or TOTALLY flip out (my body had already mildly flopped out). It wasn't until I really started reading and educating myself on nicotine addictiont that I realized I wasn't giving up anything pleasurable, I was giving up something that was controlling my life and trying to kill me.
It was FEAR that I really needed to give up. Fear that nic gave me confidence, fear that nic made me sociable, fear that nic relaxed me, fear that nic made "things" better. That was all bullshit. Once I gave those fears up, I quit relying on will power to quit and realized I wasn't giving up a God Damn thing.
I read people with more days quit than me say that they still battle the nic bitch everyday. I don't believe that should be the case. Will every day be easy? Hell no, but I think those that are past the HOF and still fight nic daily are still using will power to quit. I think they need to fight their fears of quitting for things to get easier. I think winning that battle is the true way to freedom.
Again, these are just MY random thoughts. Thanks for reading and STAY QUIT!!'
Diesel2112
This is poetry brother. I learned this at a very early point in my quit and that is one reason why it has been easier for me than most. I added some of my own ingredients: a dash of personal pride, a touch of goal setting, a pinch of my will, and some accountability to others and I had the perfect quit mix. I knew early on that the Nic Bitch was a liar and that there was nothing to fear. I accepted one simple truth very early on : nicotine makes any situation worse, not better. I am happy you see all of it. Your are becoming a Jedi of quit my friend.
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I want to get this seen by some people. Could be a great event to plan toward.
in missoula montana.
I'll be there sir... can't wait.
Let's talk about how I can help get KTC there. Are you planning a booth? i see there is a sponsorship for a Voyager at $2,500 and you get an exhibit booth, I may be able to be talked into that over a beer. :D
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I want to get this seen by some people. Could be a great event to plan toward.
in missoula montana.
I'll be there sir... can't wait.
Let's talk about how I can help get KTC there. Are you planning a booth? i see there is a sponsorship for a Voyager at $2,500 and you get an exhibit booth, I may be able to be talked into that over a beer. :D
Can i restate - Many Beers.
Done Deal, just want a beer (many) lol
start to our new winking lizard Tour
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Good morning y'all. I know some of you know my story but some may not. Perhaps someone is stopping in this site and just thinking about quitting. I hope you make that choice and kill your can for good.
Seven years ago today I lay on a hospital bed at M.D. Anderson Cancer center in Houston. In the exact spot I had held my dip for so long they found a squamous cell carcinoma spot. I was told it was directly related to my dipping. That was near the end of September.
Now it was time to take care of it. My operation lasted some eleven hours. A large section of gum matter, three teeth and thirty seven lymphnodes were removed. My jawbone was shaved to half of it's thickness and a plate with screws added for reinforcement. A section of flesh was removed from my leg and now and forever resides in my mouth.
My recovery will never be complete as I have pain everyday from the surgery. When I wake in the mornings my neck has drawn tight and I have to stretch it. Somedays it refuses to loosen. If I hold my head a certain way for any length of time, it tightens. Being a welder I usually hold my head a certain way everyday. I will forever have this piece of leg in my mouth and no one who has had this "pleasure" will know what wonderful breath and taste you can have with leg in your mouth, especially when you wake in the morning.
I hope this is not to commercially for you, but in cas you haven't read my story or seen my pictures, got to my website (http://www.outdoortexan.com/mycancer.htm) and see what dipping did for me. If you are visiting here for the first time and merely considering quitting, please PLEASE do so. And don't forget to use every resource this site provides. I have been MIA in helping you guys and for that I apologize. I hope you all know I am willing to share with, talk with, any of you and would be deeply honored to help with your quit.
Take care, God bless and have a wonderful dip free remainder of your life.
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I want to get this seen by some people. Could be a great event to plan toward.
in missoula montana.
I'll be there sir... can't wait.
Let's talk about how I can help get KTC there. Are you planning a booth? i see there is a sponsorship for a Voyager at $2,500 and you get an exhibit booth, I may be able to be talked into that over a beer. :D
Can i restate - Many Beers.
Done Deal, just want a beer (many) lol
start to our new winking lizard Tour
I went to this summit a few years back when it was in OKCity. Very big event. Tons of info. A KTC booth would be righteous. Perhaps if the good Lord allows me to hang around I may head that way. I'll start my cookie jar travel money today. ;)
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in missoula montana.
I'll be there sir... can't wait.
Let's talk about how I can help get KTC there. Are you planning a booth? i see there is a sponsorship for a Voyager at $2,500 and you get an exhibit booth, I may be able to be talked into that over a beer. :D
Can i restate - Many Beers.
Done Deal, just want a beer (many) lol
start to our new winking lizard Tour
I went to this summit a few years back when it was in OKCity. Very big event. Tons of info. A KTC booth would be righteous. Perhaps if the good Lord allows me to hang around I may head that way. I'll start my cookie jar travel money today. ;)
Cope... beers NEED to happen... soon.
Curtis - we had a great time when we went to Austin a few years back. http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/05/thou ... he-summit/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/05/thoughts-on-the-summit/)
Whether we're there in an "official" capacity (booth) or not, it's on my personal calendar. Pisses me off that there is no representation of real former users there...
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I want to get this seen by some people.� Could be a great event to plan toward.
in missoula montana.
I'll be there sir... can't wait.
Let's talk about how I can help get KTC there. Are you planning a booth? i see there is a sponsorship for a Voyager at $2,500 and you get an exhibit booth, I may be able to be talked into that over a beer. :D
Can i restate - Many Beers.
Done Deal, just want a beer (many) lol
start to our new winking lizard Tour
I went to this summit a few years back when it was in OKCity. Very big event. Tons of info. A KTC booth would be righteous. Perhaps if the good Lord allows me to hang around I may head that way. I'll start my cookie jar travel money today. ;)
Cope... beers NEED to happen... soon.
Curtis - we had a great time when we went to Austin a few years back. http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/05/thou ... he-summit/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/05/thoughts-on-the-summit/)
Whether we're there in an "official" capacity (booth) or not, it's on my personal calendar. Pisses me off that there is no representation of real former users there...
Greg,
I am going to send you a donation in the above stated amount in January, I will let you and the other admins decide how to spend it at the summit.
My Savings to date is $6,728.75 and that doesn't include the Rolaids for heartburn and the Cokes I bought for spit cups.
You are doing a good thing.
I believe in paying it forward. Carry on.
Dave
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I want to get this seen by some people.� Could be a great event to plan toward.
in missoula montana.
I'll be there sir... can't wait.
Let's talk about how I can help get KTC there. Are you planning a booth? i see there is a sponsorship for a Voyager at $2,500 and you get an exhibit booth, I may be able to be talked into that over a beer. :D
Can i restate - Many Beers.
Done Deal, just want a beer (many) lol
start to our new winking lizard Tour
I went to this summit a few years back when it was in OKCity. Very big event. Tons of info. A KTC booth would be righteous. Perhaps if the good Lord allows me to hang around I may head that way. I'll start my cookie jar travel money today. ;)
Cope... beers NEED to happen... soon.
Curtis - we had a great time when we went to Austin a few years back. http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/05/thou ... he-summit/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/05/thoughts-on-the-summit/)
Whether we're there in an "official" capacity (booth) or not, it's on my personal calendar. Pisses me off that there is no representation of real former users there...
Greg,
I am going to send you a donation in the above stated amount in January, I will let you and the other admins decide how to spend it at the summit.
My Savings to date is $6,728.75 and that doesn't include the Rolaids for heartburn and the Cokes I bought for spit cups.
You are doing a good thing.
I believe in paying it forward. Carry on.
Dave
I would love to take part in this. I will volunteer to work the booth if we can get one set up. I can donate a little cash as well if needed. Who's going to take the lead with this? contact me via PM for any help.
Mike
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Thanks for the support of this site. I would like to ask, even though its probably already been asked, but will there be an iPhone/droid app? Can anyone set this up or have I just become that whiny ass bitch with the iPhone? Day26 also no sleep for 2 days 'zombie'
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Thanks for the support of this site. I would like to ask, even though its probably already been asked, but will there be an iPhone/droid app? Can anyone set this up or have I just become that whiny ass bitch with the iPhone? Day26 also no sleep for 2 days 'zombie'
There isn't one... yet. But it's definitely on our radar screen.
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Seven days without Copenhagen after 35 years of chewing this shit. I've quit a hundred times, but this time feels different. I'm a bit on the crazy side but I think I can finally get it done. I'm eating everything in site and just don't care. Anyway, glad to find a site where others appear to be suffering the same self induced malady.
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Hey Guys, Ive got a question about tiredness or fatigue. Im at day 70 and it doesn't seem to matter how much sleep i get ive been feeling like shit. I work really screwed up hours which doesnt help any. It just seems ive got no energy. I dont feel sad at all but I've been told I may have some depression going on. Some days feel like day one off dip so ive just been trying to ride the roller coaster out and find what my new "normal" feels like. Any been there done that advice is welcomed! Thx
January Jackwagons kick ass and post names
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Seven days without Copenhagen after 35 years of chewing this shit. I've quit a hundred times, but this time feels different. I'm a bit on the crazy side but I think I can finally get it done. I'm eating everything in site and just don't care. Anyway, glad to find a site where others appear to be suffering the same self induced malady.
Just take it one day at a time! If you've made it 7 days you can make it one more, and then one more... day after day! If you give in now you'll just have to do day one all over again!! Glad to have you here, this site is the difference for me this time around. Get in your group and start posting
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great for you. 35 years is a hell of a long time. great job being a quitter and taking your life back. we all have to start somewhere -- I'm thinking that most of us have half-assed it down this road before. keep quit! that cope (my poison for 12 years) is a nasty bitch.
keep it up.
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I have a two sons who both chewed and have both quit. My oldest (24) quit when I did. My youngest who was also military quit before his first child was born. Damn sure wish I had done that. I've done chantix, welbutrin, and beer to no avail. Finally just said fuck it, if my boys can do it I damn sure better be able to. I appreciate the support and hope to be able to give back down the road. It's likely to be a bit rocky, but lifes a bitch and then you quit chewing.
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Never again for any reason, for there is no reason. 'qt'
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Thanks for the support of this site. I would like to ask, even though its probably already been asked, but will there be an iPhone/droid app? Can anyone set this up or have I just become that whiny ass bitch with the iPhone? Day26 also no sleep for 2 days 'zombie'
There isn't one... yet. But it's definitely on our radar screen.
Just keep clicking and scrolling and zooming you'll be to busy with the phone to be busy with the can. _
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gigifalci
Possibly another troll. Why can't these people get a life?
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gigifalci
Possibly another troll. Why can't these people get a life?
Handled. Thanks for the heads up.
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Good morning y'all. I know some of you know my story but some may not. Perhaps someone is stopping in this site and just thinking about quitting. I hope you make that choice and kill your can for good.
Seven years ago today I lay on a hospital bed at M.D. Anderson Cancer center in Houston. In the exact spot I had held my dip for so long they found a squamous cell carcinoma spot. I was told it was directly related to my dipping. That was near the end of September.
Now it was time to take care of it. My operation lasted some eleven hours. A large section of gum matter, three teeth and thirty seven lymphnodes were removed. My jawbone was shaved to half of it's thickness and a plate with screws added for reinforcement. A section of flesh was removed from my leg and now and forever resides in my mouth.
My recovery will never be complete as I have pain everyday from the surgery. When I wake in the mornings my neck has drawn tight and I have to stretch it. Somedays it refuses to loosen. If I hold my head a certain way for any length of time, it tightens. Being a welder I usually hold my head a certain way everyday. I will forever have this piece of leg in my mouth and no one who has had this "pleasure" will know what wonderful breath and taste you can have with leg in your mouth, especially when you wake in the morning.
I hope this is not to commercially for you, but in cas you haven't read my story or seen my pictures, got to my website (http://www.outdoortexan.com/mycancer.htm) and see what dipping did for me. If you are visiting here for the first time and merely considering quitting, please PLEASE do so. And don't forget to use every resource this site provides. I have been MIA in helping you guys and for that I apologize. I hope you all know I am willing to share with, talk with, any of you and would be deeply honored to help with your quit.
Take care, God bless and have a wonderful dip free remainder of your life.
Thought I would bump this back to the top of the page.
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Good morning y'all. I know some of you know my story but some may not. Perhaps someone is stopping in this site and just thinking about quitting. I hope you make that choice and kill your can for good.
Seven years ago today I lay on a hospital bed at M.D. Anderson Cancer center in Houston. In the exact spot I had held my dip for so long they found a squamous cell carcinoma spot. I was told it was directly related to my dipping. That was near the end of September.
Now it was time to take care of it. My operation lasted some eleven hours. A large section of gum matter, three teeth and thirty seven lymphnodes were removed. My jawbone was shaved to half of it's thickness and a plate with screws added for reinforcement. A section of flesh was removed from my leg and now and forever resides in my mouth.
My recovery will never be complete as I have pain everyday from the surgery. When I wake in the mornings my neck has drawn tight and I have to stretch it. Somedays it refuses to loosen. If I hold my head a certain way for any length of time, it tightens. Being a welder I usually hold my head a certain way everyday. I will forever have this piece of leg in my mouth and no one who has had this "pleasure" will know what wonderful breath and taste you can have with leg in your mouth, especially when you wake in the morning.
I hope this is not to commercially for you, but in cas you haven't read my story or seen my pictures, got to my website (http://www.outdoortexan.com/mycancer.htm) and see what dipping did for me. If you are visiting here for the first time and merely considering quitting, please PLEASE do so. And don't forget to use every resource this site provides. I have been MIA in helping you guys and for that I apologize. I hope you all know I am willing to share with, talk with, any of you and would be deeply honored to help with your quit.
Take care, God bless and have a wonderful dip free remainder of your life.
Thought I would bump this back to the top of the page.
Outdoor: Man, what a brave son a buck you are. I remember just before my quit, I saw your pics. They scared the shit out of me. Thank you for your courage in sharing your story.
Regards,
whsii 489
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Just a curious question. I went to change my avatar or personal picture in the settings and it says I cant do it. Anyone have any answers about how to do this? I tried uploading an image and putting the website extension of the image.
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Just a curious question. I went to change my avatar or personal picture in the settings and it says I cant do it. Anyone have any answers about how to do this? I tried uploading an image and putting the website extension of the image.
figured it out nvm.
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A thought -- (since I've now had 9 days to use my brain instead of filling my free time [and lip] with dip...)
The wife has hounded me for years about quitting...I didn't care. She told me all the bad things it'l do to me...I didn't care. She told me that it will kill me...I wasn't willing to care. I lied to her over and over about quitting...or "it's the last can" or "today is my last day"...and I didn't really care.
So then I completely level with the wife and I find KTC...and a group of badasses... so I exchange some numbers and PM's and can't wait to post that damn roll every day...so I honor my promise and not let my new brothers down -- mind you, my wife has been present for much of my 'cope'-ing and this is a group of people I've never met -- kindof weird.
Yeah, I need her but I guess I need you bunch of quitters too.
Here's to the quit.
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A thought -- (since I've now had 9 days to use my brain instead of filling my free time [and lip] with dip...)
The wife has hounded me for years about quitting...I didn't care. She told me all the bad things it'l do to me...I didn't care. She told me that it will kill me...I wasn't willing to care. I lied to her over and over about quitting...or "it's the last can" or "today is my last day"...and I didn't really care.
So then I completely level with the wife and I find KTC...and a group of badasses... so I exchange some numbers and PM's and can't wait to post that damn roll every day...so I honor my promise and not let my new brothers down -- mind you, my wife has been present for much of my 'cope'-ing and this is a group of people I've never met -- kindof weird.
Yeah, I need her but I guess I need you bunch of quitters too.
Here's to the quit.
We're not sure why it works, we just know that it does. You get it.
Glad to have you, and congrats on your new quit. 9 days is a HUUUGGGEE achievement. And today is even more important. Welcome.
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Good morning y'all. I know some of you know my story but some may not. Perhaps someone is stopping in this site and just thinking about quitting. I hope you make that choice and kill your can for good.
Seven years ago today I lay on a hospital bed at M.D. Anderson Cancer center in Houston. In the exact spot I had held my dip for so long they found a squamous cell carcinoma spot. I was told it was directly related to my dipping. That was near the end of September.
Now it was time to take care of it. My operation lasted some eleven hours. A large section of gum matter, three teeth and thirty seven lymphnodes were removed. My jawbone was shaved to half of it's thickness and a plate with screws added for reinforcement. A section of flesh was removed from my leg and now and forever resides in my mouth.
My recovery will never be complete as I have pain everyday from the surgery. When I wake in the mornings my neck has drawn tight and I have to stretch it. Somedays it refuses to loosen. If I hold my head a certain way for any length of time, it tightens. Being a welder I usually hold my head a certain way everyday. I will forever have this piece of leg in my mouth and no one who has had this "pleasure" will know what wonderful breath and taste you can have with leg in your mouth, especially when you wake in the morning.
I hope this is not to commercially for you, but in cas you haven't read my story or seen my pictures, got to my website (http://www.outdoortexan.com/mycancer.htm) and see what dipping did for me. If you are visiting here for the first time and merely considering quitting, please PLEASE do so. And don't forget to use every resource this site provides. I have been MIA in helping you guys and for that I apologize. I hope you all know I am willing to share with, talk with, any of you and would be deeply honored to help with your quit.
Take care, God bless and have a wonderful dip free remainder of your life.
Thought I would bump this back to the top of the page.
Is this viewable to the folks that are not members ,the lurkers??
If not it should be.
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Good morning y'all. I know some of you know my story but some may not. Perhaps someone is stopping in this site and just thinking about quitting. I hope you make that choice and kill your can for good.
Seven years ago today I lay on a hospital bed at M.D. Anderson Cancer center in Houston. In the exact spot I had held my dip for so long they found a squamous cell carcinoma spot. I was told it was directly related to my dipping. That was near the end of September.
Now it was time to take care of it. My operation lasted some eleven hours. A large section of gum matter, three teeth and thirty seven lymphnodes were removed. My jawbone was shaved to half of it's thickness and a plate with screws added for reinforcement. A section of flesh was removed from my leg and now and forever resides in my mouth.
My recovery will never be complete as I have pain everyday from the surgery. When I wake in the mornings my neck has drawn tight and I have to stretch it. Somedays it refuses to loosen. If I hold my head a certain way for any length of time, it tightens. Being a welder I usually hold my head a certain way everyday. I will forever have this piece of leg in my mouth and no one who has had this "pleasure" will know what wonderful breath and taste you can have with leg in your mouth, especially when you wake in the morning.
I hope this is not to commercially for you, but in cas you haven't read my story or seen my pictures, got to my website (http://www.outdoortexan.com/mycancer.htm) and see what dipping did for me. If you are visiting here for the first time and merely considering quitting, please PLEASE do so. And don't forget to use every resource this site provides. I have been MIA in helping you guys and for that I apologize. I hope you all know I am willing to share with, talk with, any of you and would be deeply honored to help with your quit.
Take care, God bless and have a wonderful dip free remainder of your life.
Thought I would bump this back to the top of the page.
Is this viewable to the folks that are not members ,the lurkers??
If not it should be.
It is.
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Good morning y'all. I know some of you know my story but some may not. Perhaps someone is stopping in this site and just thinking about quitting. I hope you make that choice and kill your can for good.
Seven years ago today I lay on a hospital bed at M.D. Anderson Cancer center in Houston. In the exact spot I had held my dip for so long they found a squamous cell carcinoma spot. I was told it was directly related to my dipping. That was near the end of September.
Now it was time to take care of it. My operation lasted some eleven hours. A large section of gum matter, three teeth and thirty seven lymphnodes were removed. My jawbone was shaved to half of it's thickness and a plate with screws added for reinforcement. A section of flesh was removed from my leg and now and forever resides in my mouth.
My recovery will never be complete as I have pain everyday from the surgery. When I wake in the mornings my neck has drawn tight and I have to stretch it. Somedays it refuses to loosen. If I hold my head a certain way for any length of time, it tightens. Being a welder I usually hold my head a certain way everyday. I will forever have this piece of leg in my mouth and no one who has had this "pleasure" will know what wonderful breath and taste you can have with leg in your mouth, especially when you wake in the morning.
I hope this is not to commercially for you, but in cas you haven't read my story or seen my pictures, got to my website (http://www.outdoortexan.com/mycancer.htm) and see what dipping did for me. If you are visiting here for the first time and merely considering quitting, please PLEASE do so. And don't forget to use every resource this site provides. I have been MIA in helping you guys and for that I apologize. I hope you all know I am willing to share with, talk with, any of you and would be deeply honored to help with your quit.
Take care, God bless and have a wonderful dip free remainder of your life.
Thought I would bump this back to the top of the page.
Is this viewable to the folks that are not members ,the lurkers??
If not it should be.
It is.
Anyone lurking and wondering if you should quit I highly suggest a stop by ODT's page. I spent some time there in my decision to quit. Very Powerful!!
Quit today, your life does in fact depend on it.....
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Thanks for the support of this site. I would like to ask, even though its probably already been asked, but will there be an iPhone/droid app? Can anyone set this up or have I just become that whiny ass bitch with the iPhone? Day26 also no sleep for 2 days 'zombie'
There isn't one... yet. But it's definitely on our radar screen.
Just keep clicking and scrolling and zooming you'll be to busy with the phone to be busy with the can. _
I would like an iPhone App! Nice way to post roll call.
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Nice banner, I really like it.
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Nothing says Merry Christmas to me but Eddie in his bathrobe !!!! Classic.
"Shitters full"
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Random thought...
Day 187 and my quit seems to be going very smooth. Still some bumps, mainly when I tackle tasks I've never tackled dip free before but all in all in relation to "every day life", I find myself doing better and better.
As I drove for 4 hrs today I pondered why and came to the conclusion I am not using will power to quit anymore. In the early days will power was all I used. That's because you use will power when you think you are giving up something pleasurable.
Even though I knew that not chewing was the right move, I honestly believed I was giving something "good" up and it pissed me off and stressed me out...not being able to dip only added to this stress. It was a nightmare and a vicious cycle of frustration and only will power kept me quit.
I couldn't continue to be quit with will power alone, it would be torture and just too hard. I would either cave or TOTALLY flip out (my body had already mildly flopped out). It wasn't until I really started reading and educating myself on nicotine addictiont that I realized I wasn't giving up anything pleasurable, I was giving up something that was controlling my life and trying to kill me.
It was FEAR that I really needed to give up. Fear that nic gave me confidence, fear that nic made me sociable, fear that nic relaxed me, fear that nic made "things" better. That was all bullshit. Once I gave those fears up, I quit relying on will power to quit and realized I wasn't giving up a God Damn thing.
I read people with more days quit than me say that they still battle the nic bitch everyday. I don't believe that should be the case. Will every day be easy? Hell no, but I think those that are past the HOF and still fight nic daily are still using will power to quit. I think they need to fight their fears of quitting for things to get easier. I think winning that battle is the true way to freedom.
Again, these are just MY random thoughts. Thanks for reading and STAY QUIT!!'
Diesel2112
I believe you are dead on here........I feel the same way.
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Went to the Wal-mart in a lower income part of town today. I passed on some of my quit savings to 26 families to help bring some cheer to those that need it.
I encourage others to pay it forward.
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Merry Christmas, Quitters!!
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Merry Christmas, Quitters!!
x2. Grateful to be quit this Christmas!!
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Thanks for the support of this site. I would like to ask, even though its probably already been asked, but will there be an iPhone/droid app? Can anyone set this up or have I just become that whiny ass bitch with the iPhone? Day26 also no sleep for 2 days 'zombie'
There isn't one... yet. But it's definitely on our radar screen.
Just keep clicking and scrolling and zooming you'll be to busy with the phone to be busy with the can. _
I would like an iPhone App! Nice way to post roll call.
I did find that you can add this site to your home screen. It looks just like an app. It's just a shortcut. If you create the shortcut to your quit group it automatically goes to the most recent post.
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Thanks for the support of this site. I would like to ask, even though its probably already been asked, but will there be an iPhone/droid app? Can anyone set this up or have I just become that whiny ass bitch with the iPhone? Day26 also no sleep for 2 days 'zombie'
There isn't one... yet. But it's definitely on our radar screen.
Just keep clicking and scrolling and zooming you'll be to busy with the phone to be busy with the can. _
I would like an iPhone App! Nice way to post roll call.
I did find that you can add this site to your home screen. It looks just like an app. It's just a shortcut. If you create the shortcut to your quit group it automatically goes to the most recent post.
All you have to do is hit the "forward icon" at the bottom of the screen and you can choose to add it to homescreen
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This is my first day quit and I am surpised how easy it has been so far really. I have quit many times before only to relapse like a dumbfuck. This time is for good. I am sick of hiding this disgusting habit from my family. Plus I would really like to get a girlfriend again, and how many chicks want some turd sucking dipper for a man? I'm fuckin sick of the whole thing, the money spent, the sneaking around, the whole thing. It's fucking embarassing at my age to be still doing this shit. I want out and I know I can never have another dip. It's so stupid. Last time I quit, I made it six months, then like a dumbfuck, I told myself I'd just have one. I ended up doing a little over a can a day. It's time. I'm done. I can't do this shit anymore.
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This is my first day quit and I am surpised how easy it has been so far really. I have quit many times before only to relapse like a dumbfuck. This time is for good. I am sick of hiding this disgusting habit from my family. Plus I would really like to get a girlfriend again, and how many chicks want some turd sucking dipper for a man? I'm fuckin sick of the whole thing, the money spent, the sneaking around, the whole thing. It's fucking embarassing at my age to be still doing this shit. I want out and I know I can never have another dip. It's so stupid. Last time I quit, I made it six months, then like a dumbfuck, I told myself I'd just have one. I ended up doing a little over a can a day. It's time. I'm done. I can't do this shit anymore.
Welcome. Be proud of yourself about today and work on tomorrow. This site is here for you. Day42
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My brother is quitting smoking. Giving up the Nic bitch in any form is great news to me and inspiring. I want to know if I can welcome him to our community of ex-dippers or if he should post else where. I just want to have the encouragement that I have had through this site. I would even purchase his hof token. Just want to know if this would be ok with the administration.
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My brother is quitting smoking. Giving up the Nic bitch in any form is great news to me and inspiring. I want to know if I can welcome him to our community of ex-dippers or if he should post else where. I just want to have the encouragement that I have had through this site. I would even purchase his hof token. Just want to know if this would be ok with the administration.
He's welcome here. This great community is here to save anyone from the dangers of nicotine. We specialize in smokeless, but have been just as successful saving smokers.
That said, if your brother would be more comfortable with a group of ex-smokers, he can also try whack a pack, a smoking quit site founded by the same folks who bring you kill the can. There's a link at the top of this page. Be warned that whack a pack is quite a bit younger than this site, so there aren't as many folks there yet.
My suggestion - have him use both.
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I have been chewing going on 31 yrs. I started when I was 14, not because of peer pressure, but Clint Eastwood!! My father took us to see "The Outlaw Josie Whales" and I thought it was so cool when he spit on the dogs head! I began imitating him using beef jerky. Plus, it didn't help that I would always go down to the drug store and buy my parents cartons of cigarettes! Eventually I decided to try Beech Nut and the rest is history. I really enjoy a good chaw, but I realize I have to quit! I have a beautiful family and I want to be around to share in their lives. My gums are shot and I am beginning to lose enamel on some teeth. I just sat down and put in some info. to see if there are any tips out there and I came upon this site. My plan is to start January 1st. Please, any advice would be much appreciated.
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I have been chewing going on 31 yrs. I started when I was 14, not because of peer pressure, but Clint Eastwood!! My father took us to see "The Outlaw Josie Whales" and I thought it was so cool when he spit on the dogs head! I began imitating him using beef jerky. Plus, it didn't help that I would always go down to the drug store and buy my parents cartons of cigarettes! Eventually I decided to try Beech Nut and the rest is history. I really enjoy a good chaw, but I realize I have to quit! I have a beautiful family and I want to be around to share in their lives. My gums are shot and I am beginning to lose enamel on some teeth. I just sat down and put in some info. to see if there are any tips out there and I came upon this site. My plan is to start January 1st. Please, any advice would be much appreciated.
My advice- don't wait till Jan 1st.
Dump it now and you will head into the new year nic free.
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I have been chewing going on 31 yrs. I started when I was 14, not because of peer pressure, but Clint Eastwood!! My father took us to see "The Outlaw Josie Whales" and I thought it was so cool when he spit on the dogs head! I began imitating him using beef jerky. Plus, it didn't help that I would always go down to the drug store and buy my parents cartons of cigarettes! Eventually I decided to try Beech Nut and the rest is history. I really enjoy a good chaw, but I realize I have to quit! I have a beautiful family and I want to be around to share in their lives. My gums are shot and I am beginning to lose enamel on some teeth. I just sat down and put in some info. to see if there are any tips out there and I came upon this site. My plan is to start January 1st. Please, any advice would be much appreciated.
My advice- don't wait till Jan 1st.
Dump it now and you will head into the new year nic free.
I have got to agree! Dump your shit NOW!!please don't wait you will find a reason to put it off again more than likely. As a 40 year addict I used every excuse over and over! I found KTC 273 days ago with a plan to quit in 2 weeks, well after reading I sat by the toilet 270 days ago and cried as I flushed my cope. My friend I've never regretted that decision. I won't say it's been easy in fact many days sucked, however today I haven't even thought of dip. I know you can't possibly imagine what help is available to you but if you will take the step there are people lined up to share their experience and advice. Not only that we addicts are the only ones that truly understand and empathize with you. Don't get me wrong if you slack off or don't take quitting serious this group that have put their all into quitting wont tolerate excuses or being a half assed quitter! Now quit or get off the pot!
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I have been chewing going on 31 yrs. I started when I was 14, not because of peer pressure, but Clint Eastwood!! My father took us to see "The Outlaw Josie Whales" and I thought it was so cool when he spit on the dogs head! I began imitating him using beef jerky. Plus, it didn't help that I would always go down to the drug store and buy my parents cartons of cigarettes! Eventually I decided to try Beech Nut and the rest is history. I really enjoy a good chaw, but I realize I have to quit! I have a beautiful family and I want to be around to share in their lives. My gums are shot and I am beginning to lose enamel on some teeth. I just sat down and put in some info. to see if there are any tips out there and I came upon this site. My plan is to start January 1st. Please, any advice would be much appreciated.
My advice- don't wait till Jan 1st.
Dump it now and you will head into the new year nic free.
Yeah mate, get rid of that shit now, don't wait until January 1st. Because we all know the track record of new year's resolutions, and you may find an excuse to put it off further. Some of the ones I used in the past: after Super Bowl, after January is over, after the winter (stressful on the roads and such), after my birthday, after you-name-it etcetera. Don't get me wrong, if you decide to quit on Jan 1, then at least you quit. But I would advocate for dumping out your stash and just getting on with it, cruise into the new year without the monkey on your back mate!
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I have been chewing going on 31 yrs. I started when I was 14, not because of peer pressure, but Clint Eastwood!! My father took us to see "The Outlaw Josie Whales" and I thought it was so cool when he spit on the dogs head! I began imitating him using beef jerky. Plus, it didn't help that I would always go down to the drug store and buy my parents cartons of cigarettes! Eventually I decided to try Beech Nut and the rest is history. I really enjoy a good chaw, but I realize I have to quit! I have a beautiful family and I want to be around to share in their lives. My gums are shot and I am beginning to lose enamel on some teeth. I just sat down and put in some info. to see if there are any tips out there and I came upon this site. My plan is to start January 1st. Please, any advice would be much appreciated.
My advice- don't wait till Jan 1st.
Dump it now and you will head into the new year nic free.
Yeah mate, get rid of that shit now, don't wait until January 1st. Because we all know the track record of new year's resolutions, and you may find an excuse to put it off further. Some of the ones I used in the past: after Super Bowl, after January is over, after the winter (stressful on the roads and such), after my birthday, after you-name-it etcetera. Don't get me wrong, if you decide to quit on Jan 1, then at least you quit. But I would advocate for dumping out your stash and just getting on with it, cruise into the new year without the monkey on your back mate!
Tomorrow never comes for an addict. An addict can only quit today. Dump it and let us quit with you over in April 2013 quit group. There are some badasses already in that group quitting today and taking back their lives. You can't name a single good reason to keep shoving cancer causing cat cah cah in your grill, so why not go quit with them right this second?
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I have been chewing going on 31 yrs.� I started when I was 14, not because of peer pressure, but Clint Eastwood!!� My father took us to see "The Outlaw Josie Whales" and I thought it was so cool when he spit on the dogs head!� I began imitating him using beef jerky.� Plus, it didn't help that I would always go down to the drug store and buy my parents cartons of cigarettes!� Eventually I decided to try Beech Nut and the rest is history.� I really enjoy a good chaw, but I realize I have to quit!� I have a beautiful family and I want to be around to share in their lives.� My gums are shot and I am beginning to lose enamel on some teeth.� I just sat down and put in some info. to see if there are any tips out there and I came upon this site.� My plan is to start January 1st.� Please, any advice would be much appreciated.
My advice- don't wait till Jan 1st.
Dump it now and you will head into the new year nic free.
Yeah mate, get rid of that shit now, don't wait until January 1st. Because we all know the track record of new year's resolutions, and you may find an excuse to put it off further. Some of the ones I used in the past: after Super Bowl, after January is over, after the winter (stressful on the roads and such), after my birthday, after you-name-it etcetera. Don't get me wrong, if you decide to quit on Jan 1, then at least you quit. But I would advocate for dumping out your stash and just getting on with it, cruise into the new year without the monkey on your back mate!
Tomorrow never comes for an addict. An addict can only quit today. Dump it and let us quit with you over in April 2013 quit group. There are some badasses already in that group quitting today and taking back their lives. You can't name a single good reason to keep shoving cancer causing cat cah cah in your grill, so why not go quit with them right this second?
You may find this helpful... when you're ready, we're here: http://blog.killthecan.org/2009/06/53-d ... -get-back/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2009/06/53-days-ill-never-get-back/)
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I dipped and smoked failry regularly for about 2 years, dipping a lot more than I smoked. I recently quit and am currently on my 10th day without any tobacco products. Everything seemed fine until today when I started to get a slight sore throat with no other cold symptoms. Does anyone know if this sore throat could be a symptom of quitting dipping? Its a very mild sore throat and is more of an annoyance than anything else. Thanks
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I dipped and smoked failry regularly for about 2 years, dipping a lot more than I smoked. I recently quit and am currently on my 10th day without any tobacco products. Everything seemed fine until today when I started to get a slight sore throat with no other cold symptoms. Does anyone know if this sore throat could be a symptom of quitting dipping? Its a very mild sore throat and is more of an annoyance than anything else. Thanks
Pretty common. Mine was that way for 2-3 weeks.
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I dipped and smoked failry regularly for about 2 years, dipping a lot more than I smoked. I recently quit and am currently on my 10th day without any tobacco products. Everything seemed fine until today when I started to get a slight sore throat with no other cold symptoms. Does anyone know if this sore throat could be a symptom of quitting dipping? Its a very mild sore throat and is more of an annoyance than anything else. Thanks
Pretty common. Mine was that way for 2-3 weeks.
I would attribute just about anything happens in the first few months of your quit to quitting. Sore throat, achy jaw and teeth, neck pain, headaches, heart palps.....had them all and many more. Don't worry to much about it, its pretty much normal.
Congrats on 10 days! Look like you are part of the March 13 quit group. Head on over and introduce yourself.
Shout if you need anything.
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Today is day 720 for me. I added this with my daily roll and was asked to post it here as well to maybe help encourage other/new quitters:
"Los - 720. 12/27 is a meaningful day here. 2 years ago today I started my quit journey. Used nic gum for a while so it's not my official quit date, but it was the last dip, a very big step. 12/27 is also the date my father died from cancer in 1987 when I was 12. 25 years is a number I can't even wrap my head around. I'll be spending the day with my kids and taking my mom out for lunch. Thank you for helping me stay quit and hopfully spend more time with my kids than I got with my dad. Love you guys. And Fuck Cancer."
I'll add a few notes too. First, my dad didn't smoke or chew or anything, he just had some shit luck. If that shit can happen then why make your chances worse with nic? The 12/27 quit date was picked randomly by rep from a quit program at work 2 years ago, which was kind of strange when he said it, immediately rang a bell. The date stands out for me and I'll see it coming every year. But this year there was something I didnt see. We took the kids to the Boston Museum of Science for the first time yesterday 12/26. Got some lunch in the cafe, walked to the back and grabbed seats at a huge window that faces out onto the Charles River, real nice view. Then I realized you can see Mass General Hospital from there, which is where he died. So there I was sitting with my kids eating a pizza staring at the building where I saw my dad for the last time, 25 years ago to the day. Very strange. But at least I have the comfort of having quit and maybe spare my kids the same pain I went through.
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Today is day 720 for me. I added this with my daily roll and was asked to post it here as well to maybe help encourage other/new quitters:
"Los - 720. 12/27 is a meaningful day here. 2 years ago today I started my quit journey. Used nic gum for a while so it's not my official quit date, but it was the last dip, a very big step. 12/27 is also the date my father died from cancer in 1987 when I was 12. 25 years is a number I can't even wrap my head around. I'll be spending the day with my kids and taking my mom out for lunch. Thank you for helping me stay quit and hopfully spend more time with my kids than I got with my dad. Love you guys. And Fuck Cancer."
I'll add a few notes too. First, my dad didn't smoke or chew or anything, he just had some shit luck. If that shit can happen then why make your chances worse with nic? The 12/27 quit date was picked randomly by rep from a quit program at work 2 years ago, which was kind of strange when he said it, immediately rang a bell. The date stands out for me and I'll see it coming every year. But this year there was something I didnt see. We took the kids to the Boston Museum of Science for the first time yesterday 12/26. Got some lunch in the cafe, walked to the back and grabbed seats at a huge window that faces out onto the Charles River, real nice view. Then I realized you can see Mass General Hospital from there, which is where he died. So there I was sitting with my kids eating a pizza staring at the building where I saw my dad for the last time, 25 years ago to the day. Very strange. But at least I have the comfort of having quit and maybe spare my kids the same pain I went through.
Amen
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Today is day 720 for me. I added this with my daily roll and was asked to post it here as well to maybe help encourage other/new quitters:
"Los - 720. 12/27 is a meaningful day here. 2 years ago today I started my quit journey. Used nic gum for a while so it's not my official quit date, but it was the last dip, a very big step. 12/27 is also the date my father died from cancer in 1987 when I was 12. 25 years is a number I can't even wrap my head around. I'll be spending the day with my kids and taking my mom out for lunch. Thank you for helping me stay quit and hopfully spend more time with my kids than I got with my dad. Love you guys. And Fuck Cancer."
I'll add a few notes too. First, my dad didn't smoke or chew or anything, he just had some shit luck. If that shit can happen then why make your chances worse with nic? The 12/27 quit date was picked randomly by rep from a quit program at work 2 years ago, which was kind of strange when he said it, immediately rang a bell. The date stands out for me and I'll see it coming every year. But this year there was something I didnt see. We took the kids to the Boston Museum of Science for the first time yesterday 12/26. Got some lunch in the cafe, walked to the back and grabbed seats at a huge window that faces out onto the Charles River, real nice view. Then I realized you can see Mass General Hospital from there, which is where he died. So there I was sitting with my kids eating a pizza staring at the building where I saw my dad for the last time, 25 years ago to the day. Very strange. But at least I have the comfort of having quit and maybe spare my kids the same pain I went through.
Amen
X2....
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New blog post: Finding Your Quit In 2012
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/12/find ... t-in-2012/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/12/finding-your-quit-in-2012/)
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New blog post: Finding Your Quit In 2012
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/12/find ... t-in-2012/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/12/finding-your-quit-in-2012/)
Thanks for all you do, Mr. Chews.
PS - Nice header. Is that a RoamCountry creation?
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I think KTC should drop a can of Cope on New Year's Eve . . . . Right into the toilet!
'flush'
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I think KTC should drop a can of Cope on New Year's Eve . . . . Right into the toilet!
'flush'
To do that...we'd have to put money in their pockets. How about we just drop a deuce in their honor?
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I think KTC should drop a can of Cope on New Year's Eve . . . . Right into the toilet!
'flush'
To do that...we'd have to put money in their pockets. How about we just drop a deuce in their honor?
That's even better, LooT!
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I think KTC should drop a can of Cope on New Year's Eve . . . . Right into the toilet!
'flush'
To do that...we'd have to put money in their pockets. How about we just drop a deuce in their honor?
That's even better, LooT!
May 2011 has collectively saved $49,114 as we bring 2012 to a close. Love to have a sitewide number.. I am sure it would be HUGE. Hit em where it hurts!