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Community => General Discussion => Topic started by: chewie on December 31, 2015, 03:33:00 PM
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General quit discussion, questions, answers, etc.
Guests looking to quit looking for answers are welcome.
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Happy 2016 quitters!!!
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I quit 'Finger' ! Started out with red man then moved to skoal, then red seal, then Copenhagen. I'm ready to kick the whore in the teeth. I quit at 520 pm December 31 2015. I came home and dumped the garbage down the sink. Now I'm really struggling.
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I quit 'Finger' ! Started out with red man then moved to skoal, then red seal, then Copenhagen. I'm ready to kick the whore in the teeth. I quit at 520 pm December 31 2015. I came home and dumped the garbage down the sink. Now I'm really struggling.
Good start. Head to April 2016 quit group and post roll, your daily promise not to use nicotine in any form for 24 hours. Exchange phone numbers with those quitters.
You are struggling now -- freedom from this addiction is a struggle. Embrace it, win hour by hour or minute by minute. It will get better -- roughly 72 hours to wash the nicotine from your system. (It is a mental challenge after that).
What you can do now: drink lots of water. exercise. read words of wisdom and hall of fame speeches on this site. Get some candy or seeds or toothpicks or fake chew or (non nicotine) gum.
Right now every hour is a win. Happy Nicotine-free New Years!!
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I spit my last dip out just before midnight on New Year's the other day as good motivation to make this the year I finally do this for ME! It hasn't been as hard as I remember previous attempts but what is really getting me is that I managed to come down with a pretty nasty cold over night. Now in the past I would throw some good old Wintergreen in and let that "help" make me feel better. My question is could part of why I'm feeling so crappy be from quitting and not necessarily just my cold? Any recommendations for not giving in? I made it past 100 days on my last quit and honestly can't tell you why I started again. I would like to make this my final and permanent attempt!
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I spit my last dip out just before midnight on New Year's the other day as good motivation to make this the year I finally do this for ME! It hasn't been as hard as I remember previous attempts but what is really getting me is that I managed to come down with a pretty nasty cold over night. Now in the past I would throw some good old Wintergreen in and let that "help" make me feel better. My question is could part of why I'm feeling so crappy be from quitting and not necessarily just my cold? Any recommendations for not giving in? I made it past 100 days on my last quit and honestly can't tell you why I started again. I would like to make this my final and permanent attempt!
Mike, it takes roughly 72 hours to flush the nicotine from your system... so you have a bit longer to go with physical addiction. Yes you will feel crappy from quit, especially the first days.
Drink lots of water, exercise. Cranberry juice will help flush your system.
In terms of making this your final quit. Quit is simple, one day at a time. We post roll in a quit group, our promise to use no nicotine for 24 hours. It is an anchor to stay quit, we post roll every day when we wake up. Your quit group is April 2016, you will reach 100 days quit in April with those quitters.
Realize nicotine is an addiction. We are not cured at any particular day count if ever. But we can all quit today, together.
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I spit my last dip out just before midnight on New Year's the other day as good motivation to make this the year I finally do this for ME! It hasn't been as hard as I remember previous attempts but what is really getting me is that I managed to come down with a pretty nasty cold over night. Now in the past I would throw some good old Wintergreen in and let that "help" make me feel better. My question is could part of why I'm feeling so crappy be from quitting and not necessarily just my cold? Any recommendations for not giving in? I made it past 100 days on my last quit and honestly can't tell you why I started again. I would like to make this my final and permanent attempt!
You had me right up until "attempt"
We don't "attempt" to quit. We quit.
We don't "try". We quit.
It may seem silly, but this minor shift in your vocabulary / thinking may make all the difference.
http://blog.killthecan.org/2009/12/chan ... ocabulary/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2009/12/change-your-vocabulary/)
chewie
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Just a quick post thanking everyone for making me (and all the other "new" quitters) feel welcome. It means a lot! 'worship'
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I took my last dip this morning and flushed the remnants of my last can. Over the past 5 years, I've tried everything but cold turkey but always go back. So, here I am committed to Cold Turkey. Looking forward to the misery 'flush'
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I took my last dip this morning and flushed the remnants of my last can. Over the past 5 years, I've tried everything but cold turkey but always go back. So, here I am committed to Cold Turkey. Looking forward to the misery 'flush'
Welcome to KTC. Cold turkey gets the nicotine out of your system in 72 hours or so, but there is more to quit success.
Head over to the April 2016 quit group, fellow new quitters that will reach 100 days quit with you in April. Post roll, your promise to not use nicotine for 24 hours. Post roll every morning when you wake up to keep nicotine away for one day.
Exchange phone numbers with fellow quitters. Get to know your quit group. Hold eachother accountable, a simple text can save your quit.
For the misery, drink lots of water, exercise, read and engage with fellow quitters on this site.
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so this guestion goes out to the vets. was wondering what the average is when you start feeling better. i know everybodys different but i figured with all the replys you've read there might be a pattern that has shown up. just curious. thanks
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Getting ready to quit, I went 14 hours today without, until I started feeling like my face was separated from my body, tingling, numb just a very strange feeling, it was like I was high or something. I currently chew about 5 cans a day very large dips 2 dips per can. From what I read that's a lot of nicotine equal to about 2 1/2 cartons of cigarettes per day. So should I quit cold turkey or wean a little?
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Getting ready to quit, I went 14 hours today without, until I started feeling like my face was separated from my body, tingling, numb just a very strange feeling, it was like I was high or something. I currently chew about 5 cans a day very large dips 2 dips per can. From what I read that's a lot of nicotine equal to about 2 1/2 cartons of cigarettes per day. So should I quit cold turkey or wean a little?
I "weened" for like a year before. Didn't work.
If you're here, it's cold turkey. There is no gray area. Either your quit or you're not.
If you really want to quit...grab your sack, man up, throw all your dip down the toilet and be quit.
If you are going to talk tough about quitting only to cave when the cravings get to you and then ask about "weening" then maybe you need to play with dolls some place else.
Time to man up, bub.
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Just questions, I'm trying to figure out what to expect, I've been dipping since I was 10 or 12, so over 30 years, just ran across this site today after the tingling episode. I want to make sure I go about it the right way, I've never even considered quitting before, i just don't really like it anymore. But from what I'm reading here it's not gonna be as easy as I thought , I hadn't thought about the other things that go along with it like dealing with problems and such without having a dip. I was so young when I started that I didn't have to deal with problems.
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so this guestion goes out to the vets. was wondering what the average is when you start feeling better. i know everybodys different but i figured with all the replys you've read there might be a pattern that has shown up. just curious. thanks
Here's a timeline that we've put together over the years that will give you a great idea of what to expect in your first 100 days
http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/wha ... t-dipping/ (http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/what-to-expect-when-you-quit-dipping/)
That being said, to answer your question I'd say you're probably start to "feel better" (IE, not wanting to eat your table legs) around day 20 or so.
Chewie
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Just questions, I'm trying to figure out what to expect, I've been dipping since I was 10 or 12, so over 30 years, just ran across this site today after the tingling episode. I want to make sure I go about it the right way, I've never even considered quitting before, i just don't really like it anymore. But from what I'm reading here it's not gonna be as easy as I thought , I hadn't thought about the other things that go along with it like dealing with problems and such without having a dip. I was so young when I started that I didn't have to deal with problems.
Cold turkey is the way to go. It will be hell, but if you do that, it'll be the fastest way to success.
It takes nicotine 72 hours to get out of your system. Just rip off the bandaid, dump the dip and be a quitter.
Here's a couple of articles that may help:
What To Expect When You Quit Dipping
http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/wha ... t-dipping/ (http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/what-to-expect-when-you-quit-dipping/)
Symptoms Of Quitting Dip Chew
http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/sym ... -dip-chew/ (http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/symptoms-of-quitting-dip-chew/)
You're in the right place. We "get it". When you're ready dive right in!
Chewie
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Hello,
My name is Derek, I'm a Corporal in the United States Marine Corps, have been dipping for nearly 3 years now, and with the boredom of my job and just the military life style I have been tearing through a can a day, maybe more on occasions, and decided it was time. I am tired of waking up with shredded cheeks and lips, and the awful morning breath, and noticing my gum line dropping, I handed my can of Copenhagen wintergreen to a fellow marine and told him to trash it for me, I'm nervous for this, not sure what to expect, but reading the threads have helped me understand more, prayers please.
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Hello,
My name is Derek, I'm a Corporal in the United States Marine Corps, have been dipping for nearly 3 years now, and with the boredom of my job and just the military life style I have been tearing through a can a day, maybe more on occasions, and decided it was time. I am tired of waking up with shredded cheeks and lips, and the awful morning breath, and noticing my gum line dropping, I handed my can of Copenhagen wintergreen to a fellow marine and told him to trash it for me, I'm nervous for this, not sure what to expect, but reading the threads have helped me understand more, prayers please.
Derek, good decision! Quitting is simple, but very difficult. Go to the April 2016 quit group say hello and post roll, your promise not to use nicotine for 24 hours. We post roll every day. That is the simple part.
The difficult part is nicotine is a very strong addiction. You will want to get to know your fellow quitters, trade phone numbers, and build a net of support. Post an intro, let the other Marines on the site know you are here -- they can relate to service specific issues you face.
Drink lots of water, exercise as much as possible, read as much as possible here.
Power through the first days of withdrawal, you can do this!
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"Stopped" chewing for 5 days last September after getting back on this site and reading all of the great motivation and major kicks in the asses. Like an absolute stupid f**k, started again. Dumped my can on 1/2 at 2:35pm. Please tell me what an idiot I have been and bring it on because it helps shame me into realizing what a stupid f'ing selfish prick I have now been for over 30 years. I am married with a 7 and 9 year old. I obviously need help, but this is the final time I am going to quit. I also realize this isn't a site for people who want to try to quit, but it is for people who actually quit. Feel like I have let you guys down and most of all my self.
Thanks in advance for putting me in my place!! Congrats to all the quitters on this site, I admire you guys so much! Feels great to be off the garbage for almost 2 days now and I try to keep focusing on that great feeling as opposed to the withdrawl symptoms. Fortunately I really only dipped 4-5 times a day and would only keep my dips in for an hour or less at a time so I am guessing that is why the withdrawl symptoms so far haven't been nearly as bad as what I have read that some of you guys have been through.
F you Kodiak!
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Hello I am looking for the area to post my first day of quitting, can anyone steer me in the right direction. I have been dipping for 32 years and it is time to quit, soar mouth and all the other stuff. Looks like not so much for a bit. I threw out a new can a hour ago (not cheap, I live in Canada).
Thanks
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Dwayne and Skagnetti, welcome!
You will be posting roll in the April 2016 Quit Group: topic/11465559/89/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11465559/89/)
Drink lots of water, exercise, read this site.
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Hey guys, thought i would post to let the others that are quitting know they have another person to look to.
I havent been dipping for as long as many of you, but it has been at a fast rate, all copenhagen. On to day 4!
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"Stopped" chewing for 5 days last September after getting back on this site and reading all of the great motivation and major kicks in the asses. Like an absolute stupid f**k, started again. Dumped my can on 1/2 at 2:35pm. Please tell me what an idiot I have been and bring it on because it helps shame me into realizing what a stupid f'ing selfish prick I have now been for over 30 years. I am married with a 7 and 9 year old. I obviously need help, but this is the final time I am going to quit. I also realize this isn't a site for people who want to try to quit, but it is for people who actually quit. Feel like I have let you guys down and most of all my self.
Thanks in advance for putting me in my place!! Congrats to all the quitters on this site, I admire you guys so much! Feels great to be off the garbage for almost 2 days now and I try to keep focusing on that great feeling as opposed to the withdrawl symptoms. Fortunately I really only dipped 4-5 times a day and would only keep my dips in for an hour or less at a time so I am guessing that is why the withdrawl symptoms so far haven't been nearly as bad as what I have read that some of you guys have been through.
F you Kodiak!
skagnetti13 you are an idiot - you were in my quit group and you only posted a Day 1. Where were you for days 2 through 5 of your "stop"? Posting roll is an every day thing here for a reason - keeping a promise for 24 hours is a lot easier than keeping a promise for a week. Had you been with us every day you might be over a hundred days quit like I am right now.
Get yourself into the April 2016 quit group and post every day, first thing in the morning. Get some digits from your April brothers. Tell them your cave story. April 2016 is looking like a bad ass group of quitters right now. All of the help that you need is here for you but you need to be willing to be helped and do your part by showing up every day.
I quit with you today.
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Hey guys, thought i would post to let the others that are quitting know they have another person to look to.
I havent been dipping for as long as many of you, but it has been at a fast rate, all copenhagen. On to day 4!
Welcome Quenton! 4 days is a great start!
You too should head to the April 2016 quit group and join a fine group of quitters, post roll, and get to know those guys.
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FYI on those thinking about Nicotine Replacement Therapy...Does it Work? Is it Tolerated here? QA
...and we do not tolerate Nicotine Replacement Therapy."
No Sir, we do NOT! Coming from someone who tried Nicotine Replacement Therapy (NRT), I am here to tell you that it works very well...at making you keep using nicotine. If you want to continue dipping, please, by all means, go for some NRT. You'll be back on the dip quicker than the Browns losing a football game (that one was for you, Jamie). In my opinion, which is shared by quite a few others on this site, the tobacco companies want you to try to quit using NRT. Hell, they even sponsor those commercials for Nicoderm CQ, Nicorette, and the like. Why? Simple. It's because they know you'll eventually say "To Hell with this" and return back to your old habit of choice (i.e. smoking, dipping). It's a win/win for them. As a guy who went to Business School, I'd say it's a great plan! If I was the CEO of Phillip Morris (they own many cigarette brands, including Marlboro), I'd invest money in a company making NRTs. It's simple: you temporarily transfer a segment of your customers to another subsidiary company and grab some more cash from them before they return to your primary enterprise, so you get 'em coming AND going!
For all of you quantitative folks like me, let's talk numbers. A quick Google search will yield the cold, hard truth on NRTs: they don't work. At least not for most people. http://www.tobaccofree.org/quitlinks.htm (http://www.tobaccofree.org/quitlinks.htm) If you check out that link, you'll see the results of a study done on NRTs. 23% of participants initially were successful in quitting using NRTs, but only 15% were still quitters at the one-year mark. Sounds pretty solid to me. Think of what a 15% success rate means. 85 out of 100 people were not successful in permanently quitting using NRTs. Imagine if birth control was only 15% effective? Now, I didn't do my due diligence and verify the validity of this study, but here's another one done by Harvard: http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/press- ... therapies/ (http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/press-releases/nicotine-replacement-therapies/) . We also don't know what they considered a success. Was not returning to tobacco and simply remaining dependent on nicotine through NRTs a success? You get the gist.
For those who don't like numbers, how about a personal story for you? I tried the patch, the gum, and the lozenges. Each time, I either still dipped or came right back to it, full force. It didn't work for me, and it very likely won't work for you (see last paragraph). It wasn't until I found this site that I was successful in quitting. You don't need NRTs. You need a support network, accountability, and most importantly, the will to quit. If you have those, you stand a good chance at making it.
SeanK-Day 114
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Hi guys, onto the second day. Trying to get into the roll call and the april quit group but having issues. I will hopefully get things set up today and start doing the roll call every morning. Wow can't believe how tough this is as its been 10 years since I last tried to quit. I do believe this site is awesome and makes us stick to our guns.
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Hi guys, onto the second day. Trying to get into the roll call and the april quit group but having issues. I will hopefully get things set up today and start doing the roll call every morning. Wow can't believe how tough this is as its been 10 years since I last tried to quit. I do believe this site is awesome and makes us stick to our guns.
PM sent man. What exactly is giving you trouble with posting roll? I know it can be confusing!
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Hi. On day 7 of no dip. A rough few days but after 10 years of dipping it was time to change. I know I have a long way to go, but going to take it a day at a time.
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Hi. On day 7 of no dip. A rough few days but after 10 years of dipping it was time to change. I know I have a long way to go, but going to take it a day at a time.
7 days is great Koz!
You might want to spend some of that one day at a time with the April 2016 quit group. Post roll, your promise to use no nicotine for 24 hours, and get to know those quitters. Your success is more certain with that brotherhood and accountability.
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Hi guys, onto the second day. Trying to get into the roll call and the april quit group but having issues. I will hopefully get things set up today and start doing the roll call every morning. Wow can't believe how tough this is as its been 10 years since I last tried to quit. I do believe this site is awesome and makes us stick to our guns.
PM sent man. What exactly is giving you trouble with posting roll? I know it can be confusing!
Got it.
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Not sure how this place works.
I've been checking out the site for a while now, and just now decided to officially join.
I quit Copenhagen on December 7th of 2015 at 1700hrs.
Still reach for my back pocket several times a day.
Does the craving ever stop?
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Getting ready to quit, I went 14 hours today without, until I started feeling like my face was separated from my body, tingling, numb just a very strange feeling, it was like I was high or something. I currently chew about 5 cans a day very large dips 2 dips per can. From what I read that's a lot of nicotine equal to about 2 1/2 cartons of cigarettes per day. So should I quit cold turkey or wean a little?
Are you shitting me? 5 cans a day and 2 dips per can?? Were you stuffing it in between each toe as well?? :D
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"Stopped" chewing for 5 days last September after getting back on this site and reading all of the great motivation and major kicks in the asses. Like an absolute stupid f**k, started again. Dumped my can on 1/2 at 2:35pm. Please tell me what an idiot I have been and bring it on because it helps shame me into realizing what a stupid f'ing selfish prick I have now been for over 30 years. I am married with a 7 and 9 year old. I obviously need help, but this is the final time I am going to quit. I also realize this isn't a site for people who want to try to quit, but it is for people who actually quit. Feel like I have let you guys down and most of all my self.
Thanks in advance for putting me in my place!! Congrats to all the quitters on this site, I admire you guys so much! Feels great to be off the garbage for almost 2 days now and I try to keep focusing on that great feeling as opposed to the withdrawl symptoms. Fortunately I really only dipped 4-5 times a day and would only keep my dips in for an hour or less at a time so I am guessing that is why the withdrawl symptoms so far haven't been nearly as bad as what I have read that some of you guys have been through.
F you Kodiak!
skagnetti13 you are an idiot - you were in my quit group and you only posted a Day 1. Where were you for days 2 through 5 of your "stop"? Posting roll is an every day thing here for a reason - keeping a promise for 24 hours is a lot easier than keeping a promise for a week. Had you been with us every day you might be over a hundred days quit like I am right now.
Get yourself into the April 2016 quit group and post every day, first thing in the morning. Get some digits from your April brothers. Tell them your cave story. April 2016 is looking like a bad ass group of quitters right now. All of the help that you need is here for you but you need to be willing to be helped and do your part by showing up every day.
I quit with you today.
This dudes a poser. Hasn't posted in April 16 yet. He doesn't want to quit
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Not sure how this place works.
I've been checking out the site for a while now, and just now decided to officially join.
I quit Copenhagen on December 7th of 2015 at 1700hrs.
Still reach for my back pocket several times a day.
Does the craving ever stop?
Welcome dcude!
One month quit is wonderful!
The trick to this place is to go to the March 2016 Quit Group and say hello. (you are quit about the same number of days as they are). The post roll, your promise not to use nicotine for 24 hours. Post roll every day when you wake up. Get to know those quitters, share phone numbers with them. Build a support network for your quit.
As for craves, they do slow down over time. You will get to the point where they are infrequent or even rare, but your body has some healing to do first and that takes time.
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"Stopped" chewing for 5 days last September after getting back on this site and reading all of the great motivation and major kicks in the asses. Like an absolute stupid f**k, started again. Dumped my can on 1/2 at 2:35pm. Please tell me what an idiot I have been and bring it on because it helps shame me into realizing what a stupid f'ing selfish prick I have now been for over 30 years. I am married with a 7 and 9 year old. I obviously need help, but this is the final time I am going to quit. I also realize this isn't a site for people who want to try to quit, but it is for people who actually quit. Feel like I have let you guys down and most of all my self.
Thanks in advance for putting me in my place!! Congrats to all the quitters on this site, I admire you guys so much! Feels great to be off the garbage for almost 2 days now and I try to keep focusing on that great feeling as opposed to the withdrawl symptoms. Fortunately I really only dipped 4-5 times a day and would only keep my dips in for an hour or less at a time so I am guessing that is why the withdrawl symptoms so far haven't been nearly as bad as what I have read that some of you guys have been through.
F you Kodiak!
skagnetti13 you are an idiot - you were in my quit group and you only posted a Day 1. Where were you for days 2 through 5 of your "stop"? Posting roll is an every day thing here for a reason - keeping a promise for 24 hours is a lot easier than keeping a promise for a week. Had you been with us every day you might be over a hundred days quit like I am right now.
Get yourself into the April 2016 quit group and post every day, first thing in the morning. Get some digits from your April brothers. Tell them your cave story. April 2016 is looking like a bad ass group of quitters right now. All of the help that you need is here for you but you need to be willing to be helped and do your part by showing up every day.
I quit with you today.
Thanks Stranger! Can't argue with anything you said. Just did roll call in the April group and will be doing so every day. I know... talk is cheap and actions speak. Congrats on your success!!
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"Stopped" chewing for 5 days last September after getting back on this site and reading all of the great motivation and major kicks in the asses. Like an absolute stupid f**k, started again. Dumped my can on 1/2 at 2:35pm. Please tell me what an idiot I have been and bring it on because it helps shame me into realizing what a stupid f'ing selfish prick I have now been for over 30 years. I am married with a 7 and 9 year old. I obviously need help, but this is the final time I am going to quit. I also realize this isn't a site for people who want to try to quit, but it is for people who actually quit. Feel like I have let you guys down and most of all my self.
Thanks in advance for putting me in my place!! Congrats to all the quitters on this site, I admire you guys so much! Feels great to be off the garbage for almost 2 days now and I try to keep focusing on that great feeling as opposed to the withdrawl symptoms. Fortunately I really only dipped 4-5 times a day and would only keep my dips in for an hour or less at a time so I am guessing that is why the withdrawl symptoms so far haven't been nearly as bad as what I have read that some of you guys have been through.
F you Kodiak!
skagnetti13 you are an idiot - you were in my quit group and you only posted a Day 1. Where were you for days 2 through 5 of your "stop"? Posting roll is an every day thing here for a reason - keeping a promise for 24 hours is a lot easier than keeping a promise for a week. Had you been with us every day you might be over a hundred days quit like I am right now.
Get yourself into the April 2016 quit group and post every day, first thing in the morning. Get some digits from your April brothers. Tell them your cave story. April 2016 is looking like a bad ass group of quitters right now. All of the help that you need is here for you but you need to be willing to be helped and do your part by showing up every day.
I quit with you today.
This dudes a poser. Hasn't posted in April 16 yet. He doesn't want to quit
No poser here man. On day 4 of quit. Just posted roll call in April group. Won't be missing again.
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Has anyone had sharp stomach pains after quitting?
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Has anyone had sharp stomach pains after quitting?
I haven't had severe ones, but I have a friend who did. He actually thought something had gone terribly wrong internally and made an emergency appointment to see his doctor. Turned out to be nothing...but I always say err on the side of caution. If they persist and/or concern you to the extent you say to yourself "should I go see a doctor" then GO. It is always better to be safe than sorry.
Detox can do some pretty crazy stuff to a body...
(BTW: Welcome to KTC. Why don't you come join us over in the April 16 group and see what all the "fog" is about?)
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I'm probably a little different than most in that I started dipping in my mid 30's. About 3-4 years of what I'd call "social" dipping followed by 5 years of almost daily. My wife tried to get me to quit, so did my kids, and I tried a few times, but felt a little resentful about being forced into it and it never took.
Can't say it's the same for everybody but for me when I decided to quit on my own I just quit. One day in early October (can't even remember the date) I just said I'm done. I had 1 pouch left over, dipped it the next morning and have not looked back since (about 90-100 days).
Just got a clean bill of health from the dentist (I was certain I had developed tongue cancer after quitting) and only very rarely do I get an urge (my triggers are 1st cup of coffee, after lunch, 1st beer, and outdoors stuff like camping or yard work, golf etc). When I do, those Teaza and other tea leaf dips fill the void plenty good enough.
Just wanted to say hi and thanks to this site. It was the first useful place I found after I decided to quit even though I was skeptical on the whole your mouth hurts worse after you stop thing.
So to sum up, don't quit because other people are telling you to. If you want to quit, just do it. Don't plan it. Don't get paralysis by analysis. Just when you decide never buy another can and do it.
Edit--Read back up some of the other messages. If you are the guy doing 5 cans a day, you should probably not follow my advice. Though not a physician I can guess its possible you may actually die if you stopped cold turkey. For you, seek the advice of a doctor.
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I'm probably a little different than most in that I started dipping in my mid 30's. About 3-4 years of what I'd call "social" dipping followed by 5 years of almost daily. My wife tried to get me to quit, so did my kids, and I tried a few times, but felt a little resentful about being forced into it and it never took.
Can't say it's the same for everybody but for me when I decided to quit on my own I just quit. One day in early October (can't even remember the date) I just said I'm done. I had 1 pouch left over, dipped it the next morning and have not looked back since (about 90-100 days).
Just got a clean bill of health from the dentist (I was certain I had developed tongue cancer after quitting) and only very rarely do I get an urge (my triggers are 1st cup of coffee, after lunch, 1st beer, and outdoors stuff like camping or yard work, golf etc). When I do, those Teaza and other tea leaf dips fill the void plenty good enough.
Just wanted to say hi and thanks to this site. It was the first useful place I found after I decided to quit even though I was skeptical on the whole your mouth hurts worse after you stop thing.
So to sum up, don't quit because other people are telling you to. If you want to quit, just do it. Don't plan it. Don't get paralysis by analysis. Just when you decide never buy another can and do it.
Edit--Read back up some of the other messages. If you are the guy doing 5 cans a day, you should probably not follow my advice. Though not a physician I can guess its possible you may actually die if you stopped cold turkey. For you, seek the advice of a doctor.
Hey Dave! Congrats on making it this far on your own. That's a hell of an accomplishment. Feel free to join us and post roll with the December Disciples. They are all a little more than 100 days in as well. Share your story with them, and I'm sure they'd do the same. It helps to quit as a team. We've all quit for others before or tried to do it on our own with little to no success. It's tough when you don't have the family support (it's not their fault, they just don't get what you're going through if they've never battled an addiction), so get the support you need from KTC! The only requirement is to post roll.
Glad to have you here Dave and I hope you make the choice to join the party!
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Congrats to all of you working so hard. Have any of you guys quit drinking and dipping at the same time? Hubby is trying to do both but dip is proving much harder. Any suggestions? Doing my best to just offer support and not nag...he has been drinking and chewing since 12 yrs old. What is like quitting both... 'tough'
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so this guestion goes out to the vets. was wondering what the average is when you start feeling better. i know everybodys different but i figured with all the replys you've read there might be a pattern that has shown up. just curious. thanks
I have quit since 1/1/16. Im starting to feel better on day 7. Im sleeping a little better.
The first few days I didnt sleep very much at all and the "fog" you read about on here is real. I was shocked at how real it was! But I am doing a pretty drastic diet change as well, so as bad as i feel without nicotine, the clean diet is helping me feel better. I may not have been sleeping but I feel like I dont need as much sleep.
days 4-7. still craving pretty hard. Trying to just break the habit of dipping snuff. Ive eaten some seeds and Ive got some fake pouches but i am trying to just man up and push through and not use the oral vices very much.
today: day 7. I feel pretty irritable but overall i feel good. Ive been hitting the gym pretty hard since the first. once or twice a day for an hour or so. It seems to help. I never dipped in the gym so cravings dont exist for me in that environment.
I hope my experience will help you.
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Congrats to all of you working so hard. Have any of you guys quit drinking and dipping at the same time? Hubby is trying to do both but dip is proving much harder. Any suggestions? Doing my best to just offer support and not nag...he has been drinking and chewing since 12 yrs old. What is like quitting both... 'tough'
A lot of folks recommend quitting drinking and chewing at the same time. At least for the first 100 days. It will help eliminate drinking caves or undo lapse judgement.
However, if there is a drinking problem involved that needs to addressed first.
There is also a quitting drinking section of this site that can help.
First step is to post roll, (your daily promise) and that daily accountability is the backbone of KTC.
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This is my day I chose to quit. 7 years on the can and this is the end of it all i dumped the can into the toilet. I have had enough of being slaved to the can and I will not dip again. I have 3 days off from work starting tomorrow and I will not cave to this again. I am going to make this quit happen harder then anyrhing else I have done in life and am ready for the next chapter without a can in my pocket or late night runs to the gas station for a can. No more drinking coffee with a chew in I'm done. I will be posting in roll call everyday and insuring I make this happen. I will be a quitter
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This is my day I chose to quit. 7 years on the can and this is the end of it all i dumped the can into the toilet. I have had enough of being slaved to the can and I will not dip again. I have 3 days off from work starting tomorrow and I will not cave to this again. I am going to make this quit happen harder then anyrhing else I have done in life and am ready for the next chapter without a can in my pocket or late night runs to the gas station for a can. No more drinking coffee with a chew in I'm done. I will be posting in roll call everyday and insuring I make this happen. I will be a quitter
Sounds like you're ready to rock brother. We are ready for you over in April 16. One day at a time, you can and will kick that nic. If there is anything I can do, or if you just need to vent, just shoot me a PM and I'll gladly share digits.
Quit on brother! 'oh yeah'
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I am a caver. A quiter of quitting and want to share my experience.
I owe my reasons for caving and what I'm doing differently this time. There's a lot to share, so I will be breaking this down. I do not want to give a clift note version as I hope it will help somebody else who may be heading where I ended up. This morning, I am outlining my WHY.
I am an addict. I had stated that before years ago. I am a full blown addict.
When I first appeared here in 2012, I was getting over an addiction to pain pills. I was stealing from my family and any time I went into somebody's house I would raid their cabinets looking for pain pills.
Before that, I was hooked on bath salts and synthetic weed. And of course, chew. There were other addictions that I had recognized beyond drugs too, like porn and poker.
But there was one drug that was in my life that I did not treat as a drug....alcohol.
There were many clues but I was ignoring them. For example, when I made attempts to quit nicotine in the past, I would quit drinking for a while because the alcohol would make my craves too strong. I would always cave on nicotine as soon as I would drink. Be it days or weeks or months later. So on my last attempt to quit in 2012, I decided I was going to quit nicotine without stopping alcohol so I could get over that hurdle right out of the gate. Clue ignored. My drinking was normal at that time. I was not abusing it, I was not drinking every day, I was never getting black-out drunk, etc.
I had stopped all drugs, stopped nicotine, stopped poker, stopped porn, but I never looked at alcohol as a problem. I have no idea why. No freaking clue whatsoever. The only way I'm able to make sense of it in my mind, is that I let my Addiction have a source of food. I let my addiction quietly focus on one thing. I let that happen because I stopped treating myself as an addict. I felt I had overcome the major addictions in my life. I knew in the back of my mind I was still an addict, but I was just focusing on the issues I had with in the past. As long as I didn't pop a pill, or snort bath salts, or smoke pot or synthetic weed, I would be fine. As long as i didn't start any illegal drugs, I would be fine. As long as I stayed out of head shops looking for the next legal high, I would be fine.
The issue is I didn't fully accept addiction ALL THE WAY. I came close. But I didn't take it ALL THE WAY.
My drinking turned from beer once in a while to daily. Then my beer turned to liquor every day. It wasn't long before I was drinking on lunch then hiding bottles and the amount I drank. I eventually ended up at a point where I had to drink first thing in the morning to stave off anxiety and depression. By that point, I had lost my family because I stopped caring. I had lost my job shortly after that because I didn't care about anything at that point. That's when the all day drinking started. I let my addiction completely take me over and I let it completely destroy me. I had no insurance and no means for seeking professional help....or that's how I thought. That's what my addiction was telling me.
There just came a point where I was suicidal. I would wake up with sweats and a full blown panic attack. I would have a shot to calm things down in the middle of the night. I did not have the strength or courage to talk to anybody about what was going on. It was all left up to me. Exactly how my addiction monster wanted things to be. I found the strength one day to call a suicidal hot line provided in my county. I wasn't anywhere close to actually pulling it off, but I knew I needed to address the problem. I was surprised to hear that free counseling was available for me. VERY surprised and VERY excited to hear that. I could not believe it. I had not been able to take my anti-depression meds for over a year and a half or more by then due to no insurance. Or so I thought. After seeing a counselor, I learned I was able to see the psychiatrist for free as well. Not only that, I was able to get support to help pay for my meds!
That's my downward trend. From that moment on, I began my upward trend which has led me to coming back here. It's taken months of work so far. It's taken trying different depression and anxiety medications. It's taken seeking support for alcoholism. It's taken being open about my issue with my family and those who I trust and care about. Fir the first time, they got to hear my addiction battles. It felt good to get that off my chest and was a huge help for myself to move forward. Openness and honesty.
Along the way during the path of self destruction, I picked up smoking. I don't know when honestly. I believe soon after my divorce. Yes...actually...I remember it now. The day we decided to split ways was the day I said fuck it. I bought a bottle of vodka and a pack of smokes. During this path of self destruction, I bought weed. A few times. I stole pain pills from somebody. I found kratom in a head shop and abused that. I did a complete 180 during all this mess.
I'm blessed and thankful to have a clear mind today. I am 9months sober now. As I approach my 49th birthday this Saturday, I am left with the daunting task of rebuilding. I cannot go backwards any more. Every time we let an addiction take us over again, it gets worse than then the time before. It takes us to new deeper places as though that's where the addiction wanted to go to before and had a slow, methodical plan of getting there. When cut off for a while, then given the steering wheel again, it immediately floors the gas peddle and does not let up.
What I'm trying to say is...what I'm throwing out there for others to consider....
Is nicotine your only addiction? Are there other drugs or problem patterns like porn or gambling where your addiction can still survive?
For me...I wasn't fighting the nic bitch. I was fighting addiction. And I didn't address all the issues. I didn't take away all of it's life blood.
As you follow through your plans to quit nicotine, I beg you to expand that drive and focus and look at addiction as a whole. Look at other areas in your life and see if there are clues.
Is there anything in your life that is not good for you that you are also not so quick to give up? Porn? Gambling? Alcohol? Addiction has the ability to move all it's power and strength to another source if you remove only one issue.
That's all I have the time for now. I am working two jobs and always on the run. I will post what I'm doing differently to make this quit real later today.
So for now...Please think about your addiction and how far does it stretch beyond nicotine. The fact is...most, if not all, of everyone here is an addict.
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Getting ready to quit, I went 14 hours today without, until I started feeling like my face was separated from my body, tingling, numb just a very strange feeling, it was like I was high or something. I currently chew about 5 cans a day very large dips 2 dips per can. From what I read that's a lot of nicotine equal to about 2 1/2 cartons of cigarettes per day. So should I quit cold turkey or wean a little?
Are you shitting me? 5 cans a day and 2 dips per can?? Were you stuffing it in between each toe as well?? :D
Well my advise would be to slowly wean off of the stuff, I quit cold turkey after 30 years of dipping and my brain went into shock, I'm still Fuc*ed up from it and that was 145 days ago. I never had panic attacks on it and now I feel like a Pussy all the time. That's just my experience of my quit. But I would defiantly quit if I were you the stuff is poison!! STAY STRONG
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Getting ready to quit, I went 14 hours today without, until I started feeling like my face was separated from my body, tingling, numb just a very strange feeling, it was like I was high or something. I currently chew about 5 cans a day very large dips 2 dips per can. From what I read that's a lot of nicotine equal to about 2 1/2 cartons of cigarettes per day. So should I quit cold turkey or wean a little?
Are you shitting me? 5 cans a day and 2 dips per can?? Were you stuffing it in between each toe as well?? :D
Well my advise would be to slowly wean off of the stuff, I quit cold turkey after 30 years of dipping and my brain went into shock, I'm still Fuc*ed up from it and that was 145 days ago. I never had panic attacks on it and now I feel like a Pussy all the time. That's just my experience of my quit. But I would defiantly quit if I were you the stuff is poison!! STAY STRONG
See a doctor as well. Taper will help, but it's not always that successful. I just finished failing a taper program after smoking and dipping what was equal to 4-5 packs of cigs a day. A doctor may suggest a taper program, but they may also suggest a prescription. I'm not here to push or peddle drugs. But there ARE meds that help and some of us have to use every tool that available to get over this addiction.
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Getting ready to quit, I went 14 hours today without, until I started feeling like my face was separated from my body, tingling, numb just a very strange feeling, it was like I was high or something. I currently chew about 5 cans a day very large dips 2 dips per can. From what I read that's a lot of nicotine equal to about 2 1/2 cartons of cigarettes per day. So should I quit cold turkey or wean a little?
Are you shitting me? 5 cans a day and 2 dips per can?? Were you stuffing it in between each toe as well?? :D
Well my advise would be to slowly wean off of the stuff, I quit cold turkey after 30 years of dipping and my brain went into shock, I'm still Fuc*ed up from it and that was 145 days ago. I never had panic attacks on it and now I feel like a Pussy all the time. That's just my experience of my quit. But I would defiantly quit if I were you the stuff is poison!! STAY STRONG
See a doctor as well. Taper will help, but it's not always that successful. I just finished failing a taper program after smoking and dipping what was equal to 4-5 packs of cigs a day. A doctor may suggest a taper program, but they may also suggest a prescription. I'm not here to push or peddle drugs. But there ARE meds that help and some of us have to use every tool that available to get over this addiction.
All tappering will do is prolong the agony, rip the bandaid off and lets do this.
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Getting ready to quit, I went 14 hours today without, until I started feeling like my face was separated from my body, tingling, numb just a very strange feeling, it was like I was high or something. I currently chew about 5 cans a day very large dips 2 dips per can. From what I read that's a lot of nicotine equal to about 2 1/2 cartons of cigarettes per day. So should I quit cold turkey or wean a little?
Are you shitting me? 5 cans a day and 2 dips per can?? Were you stuffing it in between each toe as well?? :D
Well my advise would be to slowly wean off of the stuff, I quit cold turkey after 30 years of dipping and my brain went into shock, I'm still Fuc*ed up from it and that was 145 days ago. I never had panic attacks on it and now I feel like a Pussy all the time. That's just my experience of my quit. But I would defiantly quit if I were you the stuff is poison!! STAY STRONG
See a doctor as well. Taper will help, but it's not always that successful. I just finished failing a taper program after smoking and dipping what was equal to 4-5 packs of cigs a day. A doctor may suggest a taper program, but they may also suggest a prescription. I'm not here to push or peddle drugs. But there ARE meds that help and some of us have to use every tool that available to get over this addiction.
All tappering will do is prolong the agony, rip the bandaid off and lets do this.
We DO NOT TAPER anything around here. You are either 100% in on quitting or you are not ready and putting yourself thru constant withdrawls.
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I am a caver. A quiter of quitting and want to share my experience.
I owe my reasons for caving and what I'm doing differently this time. There's a lot to share, so I will be breaking this down. I do not want to give a clift note version as I hope it will help somebody else who may be heading where I ended up. This morning, I am outlining my WHY.
I am an addict. I had stated that before years ago. I am a full blown addict.
When I first appeared here in 2012, I was getting over an addiction to pain pills. I was stealing from my family and any time I went into somebody's house I would raid their cabinets looking for pain pills.
Before that, I was hooked on bath salts and synthetic weed. And of course, chew. There were other addictions that I had recognized beyond drugs too, like porn and poker.
But there was one drug that was in my life that I did not treat as a drug....alcohol.
There were many clues but I was ignoring them. For example, when I made attempts to quit nicotine in the past, I would quit drinking for a while because the alcohol would make my craves too strong. I would always cave on nicotine as soon as I would drink. Be it days or weeks or months later. So on my last attempt to quit in 2012, I decided I was going to quit nicotine without stopping alcohol so I could get over that hurdle right out of the gate. Clue ignored. My drinking was normal at that time. I was not abusing it, I was not drinking every day, I was never getting black-out drunk, etc.
I had stopped all drugs, stopped nicotine, stopped poker, stopped porn, but I never looked at alcohol as a problem. I have no idea why. No freaking clue whatsoever. The only way I'm able to make sense of it in my mind, is that I let my Addiction have a source of food. I let my addiction quietly focus on one thing. I let that happen because I stopped treating myself as an addict. I felt I had overcome the major addictions in my life. I knew in the back of my mind I was still an addict, but I was just focusing on the issues I had with in the past. As long as I didn't pop a pill, or snort bath salts, or smoke pot or synthetic weed, I would be fine. As long as i didn't start any illegal drugs, I would be fine. As long as I stayed out of head shops looking for the next legal high, I would be fine.
The issue is I didn't fully accept addiction ALL THE WAY. I came close. But I didn't take it ALL THE WAY.
My drinking turned from beer once in a while to daily. Then my beer turned to liquor every day. It wasn't long before I was drinking on lunch then hiding bottles and the amount I drank. I eventually ended up at a point where I had to drink first thing in the morning to stave off anxiety and depression. By that point, I had lost my family because I stopped caring. I had lost my job shortly after that because I didn't care about anything at that point. That's when the all day drinking started. I let my addiction completely take me over and I let it completely destroy me. I had no insurance and no means for seeking professional help....or that's how I thought. That's what my addiction was telling me.
There just came a point where I was suicidal. I would wake up with sweats and a full blown panic attack. I would have a shot to calm things down in the middle of the night. I did not have the strength or courage to talk to anybody about what was going on. It was all left up to me. Exactly how my addiction monster wanted things to be. I found the strength one day to call a suicidal hot line provided in my county. I wasn't anywhere close to actually pulling it off, but I knew I needed to address the problem. I was surprised to hear that free counseling was available for me. VERY surprised and VERY excited to hear that. I could not believe it. I had not been able to take my anti-depression meds for over a year and a half or more by then due to no insurance. Or so I thought. After seeing a counselor, I learned I was able to see the psychiatrist for free as well. Not only that, I was able to get support to help pay for my meds!
That's my downward trend. From that moment on, I began my upward trend which has led me to coming back here. It's taken months of work so far. It's taken trying different depression and anxiety medications. It's taken seeking support for alcoholism. It's taken being open about my issue with my family and those who I trust and care about. Fir the first time, they got to hear my addiction battles. It felt good to get that off my chest and was a huge help for myself to move forward. Openness and honesty.
Along the way during the path of self destruction, I picked up smoking. I don't know when honestly. I believe soon after my divorce. Yes...actually...I remember it now. The day we decided to split ways was the day I said fuck it. I bought a bottle of vodka and a pack of smokes. During this path of self destruction, I bought weed. A few times. I stole pain pills from somebody. I found kratom in a head shop and abused that. I did a complete 180 during all this mess.
I'm blessed and thankful to have a clear mind today. I am 9months sober now. As I approach my 49th birthday this Saturday, I am left with the daunting task of rebuilding. I cannot go backwards any more. Every time we let an addiction take us over again, it gets worse than then the time before. It takes us to new deeper places as though that's where the addiction wanted to go to before and had a slow, methodical plan of getting there. When cut off for a while, then given the steering wheel again, it immediately floors the gas peddle and does not let up.
What I'm trying to say is...what I'm throwing out there for others to consider....
Is nicotine your only addiction? Are there other drugs or problem patterns like porn or gambling where your addiction can still survive?
For me...I wasn't fighting the nic bitch. I was fighting addiction. And I didn't address all the issues. I didn't take away all of it's life blood.
As you follow through your plans to quit nicotine, I beg you to expand that drive and focus and look at addiction as a whole. Look at other areas in your life and see if there are clues.
Is there anything in your life that is not good for you that you are also not so quick to give up? Porn? Gambling? Alcohol? Addiction has the ability to move all it's power and strength to another source if you remove only one issue.
That's all I have the time for now. I am working two jobs and always on the run. I will post what I'm doing differently to make this quit real later today.
So for now...Please think about your addiction and how far does it stretch beyond nicotine. The fact is...most, if not all, of everyone here is an addict.
Just as well add this in there. Sound familiar? PLANNED CAVE
I am sorry gents. I smoked cigs for the last couple days without reaching out to anyone in fear of being talked down. I knew full well that I could have called several caring brothers, but chose to ignore that. Despite how much help you guys gave me.
I call this a planned cave, cause the road to this point is a long one with several factors I could have easily taken care of along the way. It really all started not too soon after leaving my wife. My real vice for nic is cigs. I got hooked on chew in a lame attempt to quit smoking over 10yrs ago. The thought of smoking "one more time" popped in my head I think before I was out the door. I managed to stay clear for a couple months.
My life really started to come together, things overall were going awesome. I quit nic, I quit drugs, took control of my life and chose to start eating better, P90X, and mountain biking. I decided to stop Therapy, Welbutrin, and meds for ADD. I was on top of a mountain and feeling strong. Very ignorant of me to stop what had gotten me to that point.
Anyway...I had to return to my house for a week to finish projects before we sell. The wife was out of town so I could stay there. Turns out leaving the 2nd time was more depressing than the 1st. Felt like I was just leaving my boys, my dog, and all the history in the house this time....no factors with the wife this time. THis was followed by a line of stresses and issues that continued to tear me down.
At no point did I get back on meds, restart P90, schedule an appt with therapist, tell my family, or even you guys.
Instead I pulled the trigger on something I thought I really wanted. To smoke one more time. Of course alcohol was involved in the initial purchase, but I continued the next day until gone. Bought another pack that evening, smoked a couple then came to my senses. I was lying again. Only I knew what I was doing....just like the past. Only this time, I wasn't going to lie until I got busted.
It's the lying that I am most regretful over. Lying has to be my worst trait. Every time I would cave in the past, I would lie for months even years once. I have been dating this totally awesome women who also happen to quit a few months ago. I told her how I lied in the past and hoped to be better than that with her. She really hoped for the same and made it clear that she would love me regardless and would be there in any way needed. Exactly like you guys. I know w/o a doubt that ALL of you would be there for me. I KNEW that with my GF as well...no doubts at all. But I STILL chose to go Ninja.
Last night I told my GF what I had done behind her back. She's definately disappointed that I wasn't able to be open up front. And honestly, that's what I'm more disappointed in as well. I made a big step by admitting to my errors early on, but I still failed for 48hrs+. I have a better sense of how much harder it is to deal with the lying than it is to deal with the issue I'm lying about. Lying is just not worth it. I'd like to say I wont lie like that again, but I don't have that much faith in myself.
Yesterday I started up on Welbutrin and ADD meds. Today I am nic free I am scheduling an appt with my therapist. I would like to deal with this lying issue head on.
I am sorry I denyed you the opportunity to stop me. You guys have done a lot for me. I at least owed you an upfront chat or even a text or something saying FUCK IT, I'm on my way to buy a pack. I put myself first and shit on everyone around me. I didn't care whose feelings I was going to hurt. I am terribly sorry for that.
I am nic free today and posted day 1 in OCT12.
I'm sorry to have let you all down.
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Getting ready to quit, I went 14 hours today without, until I started feeling like my face was separated from my body, tingling, numb just a very strange feeling, it was like I was high or something. I currently chew about 5 cans a day very large dips 2 dips per can. From what I read that's a lot of nicotine equal to about 2 1/2 cartons of cigarettes per day. So should I quit cold turkey or wean a little?
Are you shitting me? 5 cans a day and 2 dips per can?? Were you stuffing it in between each toe as well?? :D
Well my advise would be to slowly wean off of the stuff, I quit cold turkey after 30 years of dipping and my brain went into shock, I'm still Fuc*ed up from it and that was 145 days ago. I never had panic attacks on it and now I feel like a Pussy all the time. That's just my experience of my quit. But I would defiantly quit if I were you the stuff is poison!! STAY STRONG
See a doctor as well. Taper will help, but it's not always that successful. I just finished failing a taper program after smoking and dipping what was equal to 4-5 packs of cigs a day. A doctor may suggest a taper program, but they may also suggest a prescription. I'm not here to push or peddle drugs. But there ARE meds that help and some of us have to use every tool that available to get over this addiction.
All tappering will do is prolong the agony, rip the bandaid off and lets do this.
We DO NOT TAPER anything around here. You are either 100% in on quitting or you are not ready and putting yourself thru constant withdrawls.
Cornholio is right, I would suggest the same thing to see a Dr. to let him know what you are about to embark on. You will need help with your quit, I never thought I would need anything to help me cope, but now I have to take meds just to manage. The Ol Nick Bitch covered up something in everyone who used her and the issues that follow the quit is her way of getting back at you for leaving her. Just keep posting EDD and seek support from other quitters, its going to be a hell of a ride so hold on!
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Well it's been just 4 short days since I quit dipping. Dipped for 13 years, 2-3 cans a day for the last several, don't even know how long it was a problem. Definitely in a fog with it. Trying my damndest not to take it out on my family. Find myself just gritting my teeth around them and going into a complete silence. Quitting sucks the pp, but I'm ready to be done.
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Taylor, congrats on 4 days! That is awesome -- you now have no nicotine in your system!
As you note, the fog and anger that follow are a part of healing from the addiction. We will always be addicts, but we can be quit today and heal.
Best thing to do is join the April 2016 quit group, post roll with them every morning (roll is your daily promise not to use nicotine for 24 hours), get to know them. They too are early in their quit.
As far as anger goes, post here or on April's page, or in chat... spare your family. We can take whatever you dish out -- we went through it ourselves and understand it. You have challenges ahead, but life gets much better quit!
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Poof
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Well it's been just 4 short days since I quit dipping. Dipped for 13 years, 2-3 cans a day for the last several, don't even know how long it was a problem. Definitely in a fog with it. Trying my damndest not to take it out on my family. Find myself just gritting my teeth around them and going into a complete silence. Quitting sucks the pp, but I'm ready to be done.
Welcome to the Brotherhood. Take your anger out on us, not the family, we understand, its going to be a HELL of a rollercoaster ride, but strap in, hold on and post EDD! That is the only way you will be able to do this ,DAY BY DAY, EVERY DAMN DAY, Get some digits from you "Support from other bad ass quitters" and your quit group. They will be there for you to take your anger out on and help hold you accountable, but ultimately, you are the one who must be accountable for yourself and not cave. Most of all and the most important thing you can do is not give into the Nick Bitch! She has been and will be calling your name EDD. CONGRATS ON THE QUIT.
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Hey guys, new member here. I've only been dipping about a can a day for two to three years but I decided I need to lose the habit. I was wondering your thoughts on Smokey Mountain Wintergreen and was wondering if there were any health hazards from it. Thanks and happy quitting!
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Hey guys, new member here. I've only been dipping about a can a day for two to three years but I decided I need to lose the habit. I was wondering your thoughts on Smokey Mountain Wintergreen and was wondering if there were any health hazards from it. Thanks and happy quitting!
Welcome Miami!
Congrats on deciding to quit. Now put that can down and get to it. Mosey on over to April 2016 (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11465559/37/#new), that's your quit group. Catch up and once you're nicotine free post roll. Instructions are towards the top of every roll post (the ones with the long list of names).
As to the Smokey Mountain, check out the Smokeless Alternatives (http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/smokeless-alternatives/) page. There's reviews and other info. They're mostly all some form of shredded herbal/tea compound with added flavoring. If it's what gets you quit, do it. It's better than all the crap that nicotine (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotine#Adverse_effects) does to your body.
Some guys swear by the alternatives. I mostly chewed a lot of gum. Some folks use candy. A fellow quitter loves these cinnamon toothpick type things. Whatever works for you to quit. And drink lots of water.
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I don't know if I'm posting in the right place or not but I'm struggling here with trying to quit chew. I did it before cold turkey for almost 10 years but over the past 3 years I've been back and forth saying I'm gonna quit and trying to quit but I always end up back with a chew in my mouth. I had no problem quitting drinking but what is so hard with quitting chew. I want to do it but I just can't seem to do it on my own.
Thanks
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I don't know if I'm posting in the right place or not but I'm struggling here with trying to quit chew. I did it before cold turkey for almost 10 years but over the past 3 years I've been back and forth saying I'm gonna quit and trying to quit but I always end up back with a chew in my mouth. I had no problem quitting drinking but what is so hard with quitting chew. I want to do it but I just can't seem to do it on my own.
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You know why quitting is difficult? Because you are an addict like the rest of us. That's why we quit one day at a time. We make a promise to not use nicotine in any form for twenty four hours, then we abide by our word. Our brothers and sisters help us and hold us accountable. If you truly want to quit, dump what you have and come post in the April 16 Quit Group. Get to know us, and we'll get to know you. You can do this!
It will take time, but we are here for you!
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http://www.killthecan.org/quit-quotes/ (http://www.killthecan.org/quit-quotes/)
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Hello. I'm a wife of a dipper and I need advice. I honestly don't want to be a nag. BUT I honestly cannot live in a home where tobacco is being used in it. For lots of reasons.
Given:
1. When my husband started dating 8 years ago and was smoking, I made it very clear that dipping was not ok with me.
2. I tolerated the smoking because he said he wanted to quit and tried to.
3. He NEVER smoked in the house -- he did not think it was appropriate either.
4. When he quit smoking, he started dipping.
5. When I noticed he started dipping in the house {I'm the one who spends hours cleaning it and can tell when it becomes a "dip-tray." (it's like living in an ash tray)} I said I'm not ok with that. He said ok.
6. My husband has said on more than one occasion "I am dependent. I need and want to quit. Please get on me about that, but not like you normally do".
7. Unsurprisingly, he continues to dip in the house.
8. For his Christmas gift, he spent hundreds of dollars (that we really didn't need to be spending) on a riffle a hunting gun. I asked for a tobacco free house. He said he'd think about it. Doesn't want to make a promise he can't keep. We visited family for 2 weeks (where he did not dip inside). We came home. He dipped inside. A LOT.
9. I wake up to find him dipping in the middle of the night. I tell him: look, when you dip in the house, it's like you're cheating on me.
10. The next day, he dips in the house twice.
Trust me, I get that he's addicted hiding it from me is part of the fun.
BUT I did not sign up for living in a house with tobacco. To me, that is unacceptable. Just like it would be unacceptable for him to live in a filthy house that doesn't get cleaned every week or so.
I'm very, very serious about this. To the point where I've found a therapist to help me make sure I'm being fair to him and myself.
I know I can't make him quit or be his reason to quit. But one day, in the near future, he's going to have to choose: dip is in the house or I am. He can't have both.
Do I tell him this ultimatum? Or do I gently encourage him to come to the forum remind him that he has gone with out dipping in the house all sorts of other positive things.
Thanks,
TheWife who is about done waiting.
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I have been nicotine free for seven days now. I chose to quit nicotine for good this time after doing a family weekend at a treatment center with my buddy. The program really helped me to realize that all addictions are the same, my addiction to chew is the same as my friends addiction to alcohol and our brains are broken. I want to take my brain back for myself and my family. I want to think clearly and not through the lens of a person trying to protect my addiction. The past two days have been rough struggling with cravings and the lack of sleep is starting to catch up to me. The longest I have been nicotine free in the past is 10 days. I will make it past that this time and free myself from this addiciton.
Things I'm doing for these last couple days that have been rough.
1. Smokey mountain.
2. Hard candy and caffeine.
3. Reminding myself that the mid braine is lying to the rest of my brain to try and get me to chew again.
4. Browsing the Kill the Can forums.
Any other advice is greatly appreciated.
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Hello. I'm a wife of a dipper and I need advice. I honestly don't want to be a nag. BUT I honestly cannot live in a home where tobacco is being used in it. For lots of reasons.
Given:
1. When my husband started dating 8 years ago and was smoking, I made it very clear that dipping was not ok with me.
2. I tolerated the smoking because he said he wanted to quit and tried to.
3. He NEVER smoked in the house -- he did not think it was appropriate either.
4. When he quit smoking, he started dipping.
5. When I noticed he started dipping in the house {I'm the one who spends hours cleaning it and can tell when it becomes a "dip-tray." (it's like living in an ash tray)} I said I'm not ok with that. He said ok.
6. My husband has said on more than one occasion "I am dependent. I need and want to quit. Please get on me about that, but not like you normally do".
7. Unsurprisingly, he continues to dip in the house.
8. For his Christmas gift, he spent hundreds of dollars (that we really didn't need to be spending) on a riffle a hunting gun. I asked for a tobacco free house. He said he'd think about it. Doesn't want to make a promise he can't keep. We visited family for 2 weeks (where he did not dip inside). We came home. He dipped inside. A LOT.
9. I wake up to find him dipping in the middle of the night. I tell him: look, when you dip in the house, it's like you're cheating on me.
10. The next day, he dips in the house twice.
Trust me, I get that he's addicted hiding it from me is part of the fun.
BUT I did not sign up for living in a house with tobacco. To me, that is unacceptable. Just like it would be unacceptable for him to live in a filthy house that doesn't get cleaned every week or so.
I'm very, very serious about this. To the point where I've found a therapist to help me make sure I'm being fair to him and myself.
I know I can't make him quit or be his reason to quit. But one day, in the near future, he's going to have to choose: dip is in the house or I am. He can't have both.
Do I tell him this ultimatum? Or do I gently encourage him to come to the forum remind him that he has gone with out dipping in the house all sorts of other positive things.
Thanks,
TheWife who is about done waiting.
As a quitter whose wife also hated the habit, the best thing I can offer is that you can't make him quit. Nor is he likely to quit because you want him to. Understand that nicotine is a drug. A highly addictive one at that. Addicts will go to great lengths to feed that habit and it will outweigh other, more rational choices. It's not about you, it's about the nicotine.
My wife made sure I knew that she didn't like my habit. She also made sure that I knew she was mostly concerned about my health and well being. She didn't pressure me to quit, but she sure as heck supported me when I did.
Open and honest communication is always good in relationships and marraiges. Maybe I'm reading too much into what you wrote, but it sounds like there may be other frustrations involved. Maybe a three-way conversation with a counselor is a better next than issuing an ultimatum.
Not exactly a direct answer, but hopefully helpful in some way, shape or form.
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I have been nicotine free for seven days now. I chose to quit nicotine for good this time after doing a family weekend at a treatment center with my buddy. The program really helped me to realize that all addictions are the same, my addiction to chew is the same as my friends addiction to alcohol and our brains are broken. I want to take my brain back for myself and my family. I want to think clearly and not through the lens of a person trying to protect my addiction. The past two days have been rough struggling with cravings and the lack of sleep is starting to catch up to me. The longest I have been nicotine free in the past is 10 days. I will make it past that this time and free myself from this addiciton.
Things I'm doing for these last couple days that have been rough.
1. Smokey mountain.
2. Hard candy and caffeine.
3. Reminding myself that the mid braine is lying to the rest of my brain to try and get me to chew again.
4. Browsing the Kill the Can forums.
Any other advice is greatly appreciated.
Luke, congrats on toughing it out a week on your own! That is no small accomplishment.
Looks like you found April 2016 (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11465559/). That's your quit group. It also looks like you got yourself on roll. Although, make sure you grab the most recent roll post when you post your roll. Otherwise you end up bumping a bunch of folks off. However, the important part is that you're on there and you've taken nicotine off the table today.
As to the cravings, sleep, etc., it's going to come and go for a bit. But, it gets better with time. Start to get to know the folks in your group. Chime in to the conversation there. Drop into LiveChat and get to know some folks there.
From your list, I'd recommend watching the caffeine intake. No need to cut it off, but I wouldn't want to up may caffeine consumption while trying to quit. It would have sent my anxiety even more through the roof. Plus, it may be causing some sleep issues.
Other than that, drink water. Lots of water. Try some exercise to help wear you and and to push through the craves.
You got this!
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Hey all
Been dipping for 12 years now. Started just as a helper for the long commute for work...have tried to quit many times over the past several years. Longest I ever made was 3 months. I quit again today and I will be successful this time. I am so glad to have come across this group. I have been married five years next month and have a year old son. My wife doesn't even know I still dip. I want to be free of it to be around for my little boy. Reading some of the posts actually has gotten me choked up knowing I am not alone. No matter how much I try to kick it, I just get sucked back in and find myself at the store. I have kept it hidden from most of those close to me as well, so I can't talk to them about it. It feels like a trap that you feel you have gotten free from just to realize the chain is still wrapped around you. I have a strong faith in God and pray about it often, but I know that this is something that I have brought on myself and need to just stop dipping. The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak.... So long story short I am glad to have a community were I am not alone and can look for support on this venture to keep myself healthy for my family. So today is day one of the rest of my life dip free for good this time!
-Matt
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Hello. I'm a wife of a dipper and I need advice. I honestly don't want to be a nag. BUT I honestly cannot live in a home where tobacco is being used in it. For lots of reasons.
Given:
1. When my husband started dating 8 years ago and was smoking, I made it very clear that dipping was not ok with me.
2. I tolerated the smoking because he said he wanted to quit and tried to.
3. He NEVER smoked in the house -- he did not think it was appropriate either.
4. When he quit smoking, he started dipping.
5. When I noticed he started dipping in the house {I'm the one who spends hours cleaning it and can tell when it becomes a "dip-tray." (it's like living in an ash tray)} I said I'm not ok with that. He said ok.
6. My husband has said on more than one occasion "I am dependent. I need and want to quit. Please get on me about that, but not like you normally do".
7. Unsurprisingly, he continues to dip in the house.
8. For his Christmas gift, he spent hundreds of dollars (that we really didn't need to be spending) on a riffle a hunting gun. I asked for a tobacco free house. He said he'd think about it. Doesn't want to make a promise he can't keep. We visited family for 2 weeks (where he did not dip inside). We came home. He dipped inside. A LOT.
9. I wake up to find him dipping in the middle of the night. I tell him: look, when you dip in the house, it's like you're cheating on me.
10. The next day, he dips in the house twice.
Trust me, I get that he's addicted hiding it from me is part of the fun.
BUT I did not sign up for living in a house with tobacco. To me, that is unacceptable. Just like it would be unacceptable for him to live in a filthy house that doesn't get cleaned every week or so.
I'm very, very serious about this. To the point where I've found a therapist to help me make sure I'm being fair to him and myself.
I know I can't make him quit or be his reason to quit. But one day, in the near future, he's going to have to choose: dip is in the house or I am. He can't have both.
Do I tell him this ultimatum? Or do I gently encourage him to come to the forum remind him that he has gone with out dipping in the house all sorts of other positive things.
Thanks,
TheWife who is about done waiting.
To TheWife:
This is my opinion, and my opinion only:
I think you have made some very valid points. You understand that your husband is an addict, and that this is not "easy" for him. At the same time, it is easy for me to see this is a "hot button" topic for you as well.
I think this is one of those times when you as a spouse have to trust your judgement. If you think you need to give an ultimatum, then give one. In my opinion, his coming here is not going to help unless HE wants to quit. We will support and help anyone, but for us the only end to nicotine is cold turkey quit...one that you do only for yourself.
Quitting has to be for yourself because quitting for others only leads to more heartache. I am a firm believer an addict (which is what your husband is, not "dependent" as he says) will never, ever stick to anything so long as he/she has a way "out". As in "oh she made me do it" or "I did it because of my kids". Those may be great reasons, but they won't keep someone quit. Until an addict first admits that he/she is an addict, and then decides he/she is worth enough (read: gains an understanding of self worth), a quit will never stick.
So, I said all that to say this: do what you think is best. It may be best, if he is willing, to have him go to therapy or counseling to see if there are underlying issues there as well. I have gone in the past, and it has been a major benefit to my current relationship.
I hope all that helps/makes sense!
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Hello. I'm a wife of a dipper and I need advice. I honestly don't want to be a nag. BUT I honestly cannot live in a home where tobacco is being used in it. For lots of reasons.
Given:
1. When my husband started dating 8 years ago and was smoking, I made it very clear that dipping was not ok with me.
2. I tolerated the smoking because he said he wanted to quit and tried to.
3. He NEVER smoked in the house -- he did not think it was appropriate either.
4. When he quit smoking, he started dipping.
5. When I noticed he started dipping in the house {I'm the one who spends hours cleaning it and can tell when it becomes a "dip-tray." (it's like living in an ash tray)} I said I'm not ok with that. He said ok.
6. My husband has said on more than one occasion "I am dependent. I need and want to quit. Please get on me about that, but not like you normally do".
7. Unsurprisingly, he continues to dip in the house.
8. For his Christmas gift, he spent hundreds of dollars (that we really didn't need to be spending) on a riffle a hunting gun. I asked for a tobacco free house. He said he'd think about it. Doesn't want to make a promise he can't keep. We visited family for 2 weeks (where he did not dip inside). We came home. He dipped inside. A LOT.
9. I wake up to find him dipping in the middle of the night. I tell him: look, when you dip in the house, it's like you're cheating on me.
10. The next day, he dips in the house twice.
Trust me, I get that he's addicted hiding it from me is part of the fun.
BUT I did not sign up for living in a house with tobacco. To me, that is unacceptable. Just like it would be unacceptable for him to live in a filthy house that doesn't get cleaned every week or so.
I'm very, very serious about this. To the point where I've found a therapist to help me make sure I'm being fair to him and myself.
I know I can't make him quit or be his reason to quit. But one day, in the near future, he's going to have to choose: dip is in the house or I am. He can't have both.
Do I tell him this ultimatum? Or do I gently encourage him to come to the forum remind him that he has gone with out dipping in the house all sorts of other positive things.
Thanks,
TheWife who is about done waiting.
To TheWife:
This is my opinion, and my opinion only:
I think you have made some very valid points. You understand that your husband is an addict, and that this is not "easy" for him. At the same time, it is easy for me to see this is a "hot button" topic for you as well.
I think this is one of those times when you as a spouse have to trust your judgement. If you think you need to give an ultimatum, then give one. In my opinion, his coming here is not going to help unless HE wants to quit. We will support and help anyone, but for us the only end to nicotine is cold turkey quit...one that you do only for yourself.
Quitting has to be for yourself because quitting for others only leads to more heartache. I am a firm believer an addict (which is what your husband is, not "dependent" as he says) will never, ever stick to anything so long as he/she has a way "out". As in "oh she made me do it" or "I did it because of my kids". Those may be great reasons, but they won't keep someone quit. Until an addict first admits that he/she is an addict, and then decides he/she is worth enough (read: gains an understanding of self worth), a quit will never stick.
So, I said all that to say this: do what you think is best. It may be best, if he is willing, to have him go to therapy or counseling to see if there are underlying issues there as well. I have gone in the past, and it has been a major benefit to my current relationship.
I hope all that helps/makes sense!
SGF is right.
Your hubby is an addict plain and simple. He has to WANT to quit. He will not quit for anyone else.
So my suggestion is to see what you can do to help him WANT to quit.
The key is through providing a safe environment for an open and honest talk. One where he feels you genuinely care about him. This may go against everything you feel because you feel betrayed and lied to. But if you take the approach of making it ALL ABOUT HIM, then you might have a chance. If it's about you, how it makes you feel, etc, it wont have much of an impact. If any.
Do you have kids? If you do...then you know there is no greater love. You would do far more for your children then you would for your spouse...or even for yourself. I'm telling you that even when kids approach their smoking or dipping parent to quit, it does not help. Maybe for a little bit..hours...days..weeks maybe. But then it's back to using. Doesn't matter how many tears are involved, or how sad the child's eyes are.
So with an approach that this is about him, then you might have a chance. The trick is to provide a SAFE environment that fosters honesty and openness. Keep in mind, the talks may start out with lies and self protection at first. The worst thing you can do is get mad. That will just push him away emotionally and put himself in defense mode.
Here's a link that can help. Persuading somebody to quit (http://www.wikihow.com/Persuade-Someone-to-Quit-Smoking)
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Hello. I'm a wife of a dipper and I need advice. I honestly don't want to be a nag. BUT I honestly cannot live in a home where tobacco is being used in it. For lots of reasons.
Given:
1. When my husband started dating 8 years ago and was smoking, I made it very clear that dipping was not ok with me.
2. I tolerated the smoking because he said he wanted to quit and tried to.
3. He NEVER smoked in the house -- he did not think it was appropriate either.
4. When he quit smoking, he started dipping.
5. When I noticed he started dipping in the house {I'm the one who spends hours cleaning it and can tell when it becomes a "dip-tray." (it's like living in an ash tray)} I said I'm not ok with that. He said ok.
6. My husband has said on more than one occasion "I am dependent. I need and want to quit. Please get on me about that, but not like you normally do".
7. Unsurprisingly, he continues to dip in the house.
8. For his Christmas gift, he spent hundreds of dollars (that we really didn't need to be spending) on a riffle a hunting gun. I asked for a tobacco free house. He said he'd think about it. Doesn't want to make a promise he can't keep. We visited family for 2 weeks (where he did not dip inside). We came home. He dipped inside. A LOT.
9. I wake up to find him dipping in the middle of the night. I tell him: look, when you dip in the house, it's like you're cheating on me.
10. The next day, he dips in the house twice.
Trust me, I get that he's addicted hiding it from me is part of the fun.
BUT I did not sign up for living in a house with tobacco. To me, that is unacceptable. Just like it would be unacceptable for him to live in a filthy house that doesn't get cleaned every week or so.
I'm very, very serious about this. To the point where I've found a therapist to help me make sure I'm being fair to him and myself.
I know I can't make him quit or be his reason to quit. But one day, in the near future, he's going to have to choose: dip is in the house or I am. He can't have both.
Do I tell him this ultimatum? Or do I gently encourage him to come to the forum remind him that he has gone with out dipping in the house all sorts of other positive things.
Thanks,
TheWife who is about done waiting.
To TheWife:
This is my opinion, and my opinion only:
I think you have made some very valid points. You understand that your husband is an addict, and that this is not "easy" for him. At the same time, it is easy for me to see this is a "hot button" topic for you as well.
I think this is one of those times when you as a spouse have to trust your judgement. If you think you need to give an ultimatum, then give one. In my opinion, his coming here is not going to help unless HE wants to quit. We will support and help anyone, but for us the only end to nicotine is cold turkey quit...one that you do only for yourself.
Quitting has to be for yourself because quitting for others only leads to more heartache. I am a firm believer an addict (which is what your husband is, not "dependent" as he says) will never, ever stick to anything so long as he/she has a way "out". As in "oh she made me do it" or "I did it because of my kids". Those may be great reasons, but they won't keep someone quit. Until an addict first admits that he/she is an addict, and then decides he/she is worth enough (read: gains an understanding of self worth), a quit will never stick.
So, I said all that to say this: do what you think is best. It may be best, if he is willing, to have him go to therapy or counseling to see if there are underlying issues there as well. I have gone in the past, and it has been a major benefit to my current relationship.
I hope all that helps/makes sense!
SGF is right.
Your hubby is an addict plain and simple. He has to WANT to quit. He will not quit for anyone else.
So my suggestion is to see what you can do to help him WANT to quit.
The key is through providing a safe environment for an open and honest talk. One where he feels you genuinely care about him. This may go against everything you feel because you feel betrayed and lied to. But if you take the approach of making it ALL ABOUT HIM, then you might have a chance. If it's about you, how it makes you feel, etc, it wont have much of an impact. If any.
Do you have kids? If you do...then you know there is no greater love. You would do far more for your children then you would for your spouse...or even for yourself. I'm telling you that even when kids approach their smoking or dipping parent to quit, it does not help. Maybe for a little bit..hours...days..weeks maybe. But then it's back to using. Doesn't matter how many tears are involved, or how sad the child's eyes are.
So with an approach that this is about him, then you might have a chance. The trick is to provide a SAFE environment that fosters honesty and openness. Keep in mind, the talks may start out with lies and self protection at first. The worst thing you can do is get mad. That will just push him away emotionally and put himself in defense mode.
Here's a link that can help. Persuading somebody to quit (http://www.wikihow.com/Persuade-Someone-to-Quit-Smoking)
Won't quit til he wants to, plain and simple. I dipped within an hour of oral surgery. It hurt like hell. I wanted to dip despite the pain. I have no advice, make him want it
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Hello, new here my name is Bryan. I have attempted to quit several times in the past. I initially came here looking for advice on how to quit and what works. Tried sunflower seeds, failed. Tried non-nicotine chew, failed. I finally decided I have to just go cold turkey. I have now not chewed since Friday morning. The only severe craving I have faced so far is when I stop at the store. I want so bad to ask for a can of Skoal. Instead I satisfy the craving by buying a pack of gum.
It is no longer just a health issue or because chewing is disgusting. I could get fired from my job for chewing. Every year now we are required to do a health screening. One of the questions on the screening is do you chew or smoke tobacco? I have always marked no. As of this year anyone who marked yes on that question must pay $100 more per month for insurance. Anyone who is caught using tobacco that marked no can be terminated for lying to the company. So not only do I want to quit but I have to quit.
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I've gotten further than I would have expected so far, but am having trouble finding fake snuff. I'm in Asheville, NC. I got some Bacc-Off Straight that is ok, but losing its effectiveness. That was the only thing I've found besides Smokey Mtn Wintergreen. That won't do me any good, since wintergreen always made me sick. I'm going to check out the tobacco and smoke shops, but don't have much free time to hunt this stuff down. I was going to order some online, but would rather be able to walk in a store instead of waiting. I think this will make or break the quit for me. Also, today was my first nicotine free shift at work. I'm having a lot of the mental fog, and it's keeping me from getting in the zone. I am used to being able to throw in a chew to focus, and it's not happening without it. I'm assuming this will get better.
Any help is appreciated, and let me know if I can help any of ya'll.
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I've gotten further than I would have expected so far, but am having trouble finding fake snuff. I'm in Asheville, NC. I got some Bacc-Off Straight that is ok, but losing its effectiveness. That was the only thing I've found besides Smokey Mtn Wintergreen. That won't do me any good, since wintergreen always made me sick. I'm going to check out the tobacco and smoke shops, but don't have much free time to hunt this stuff down. I was going to order some online, but would rather be able to walk in a store instead of waiting. I think this will make or break the quit for me. Also, today was my first nicotine free shift at work. I'm having a lot of the mental fog, and it's keeping me from getting in the zone. I am used to being able to throw in a chew to focus, and it's not happening without it. I'm assuming this will get better.
Any help is appreciated, and let me know if I can help any of ya'll.
Careful... this is addict speak. You don't even realize you're doing it, but you're giving yourself an out. DON'T DO THAT.
You CAN do this. You're doing it. You've proven it. If you need fake dip, get some. Don't make waiting for an order for a couple of days an excuse.
You can find links to order several brands (as well as reviews and ingredients) here: http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/smo ... ernatives/ (http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/smokeless-alternatives/)
By any means necessary... get r done.
Chewie
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I posted this on my group's page, but I think here is a better place to ask.
General question here. I am not sure why 100 days was chosen for making the Hall of Fame. I am sure there is probably a good reason for it. Does anyone know for sure? Just a curious newbie.
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I posted this on my group's page, but I think here is a better place to ask.
General question here. I am not sure why 100 days was chosen for making the Hall of Fame. I am sure there is probably a good reason for it. Does anyone know for sure? Just a curious newbie.
It's a nice round number. That's really all there is to it.
Are you "cured" at 100 days? Not by a long shot. But by that point you've got all of the tools and resources available to you that you can make it for the long haul.
365 would probably be a more "appropriate" HOF number, but when you are just starting out after years (decades) of being a dipper, an entire year is just too daunting. 100 days is roughly 3 months. That's manageable.
That being said, QuitinCA said it best: “The end of each day without nicotine is my daily hall of fame.” That's the way you have to tackle this addiction. Day by day. Those +1s will add more and before you know, 100, 365 and even a comma will be in your past and you'll be on your way to freedom.
Chewie
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Thanks Chewie
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I posted this on my group's page, but I think here is a better place to ask.
General question here. I am not sure why 100 days was chosen for making the Hall of Fame. I am sure there is probably a good reason for it. Does anyone know for sure? Just a curious newbie.
It's a nice round number. That's really all there is to it.
Are you "cured" at 100 days? Not by a long shot. But by that point you've got all of the tools and resources available to you that you can make it for the long haul.
365 would probably be a more "appropriate" HOF number, but when you are just starting out after years (decades) of being a dipper, an entire year is just too daunting. 100 days is roughly 3 months. That's manageable.
That being said, QuitinCA said it best: “The end of each day without nicotine is my daily hall of fame.” That's the way you have to tackle this addiction. Day by day. Those +1s will add more and before you know, 100, 365 and even a comma will be in your past and you'll be on your way to freedom.
Chewie
Not to take away from that logic, but I entertained the 100 HOF for this place. It didn't mean anything to me. Once I had 7 days under my belt, I had full focus on 365. Now that that has passed I have full focus on 2 years.
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I posted this on my group's page, but I think here is a better place to ask.
General question here. I am not sure why 100 days was chosen for making the Hall of Fame. I am sure there is probably a good reason for it. Does anyone know for sure? Just a curious newbie.
It's a nice round number. That's really all there is to it.
Are you "cured" at 100 days? Not by a long shot. But by that point you've got all of the tools and resources available to you that you can make it for the long haul.
365 would probably be a more "appropriate" HOF number, but when you are just starting out after years (decades) of being a dipper, an entire year is just too daunting. 100 days is roughly 3 months. That's manageable.
That being said, QuitinCA said it best: “The end of each day without nicotine is my daily hall of fame.” That's the way you have to tackle this addiction. Day by day. Those +1s will add more and before you know, 100, 365 and even a comma will be in your past and you'll be on your way to freedom.
Chewie
Not to take away from that logic, but I entertained the 100 HOF for this place. It didn't mean anything to me. Once I had 7 days under my belt, I had full focus on 365. Now that that has passed I have full focus on 2 years.
This group will probably become more crucial for myself to be accountable to after 100 days then now. I am not worried at all whether or not I can quit for a week or a month or even 3 months. I quit for two years one time and something lead me to take a chew, you know just one and I was hooked again. Of course I realize that I made that choice after two years of having quit. I am also an alcoholic although I have not had a drink in over 20 years. I know though that if I even got a buzz I would not stop drinking until someone made me or I passed out. My only hope is to never take that first drink. And in my opinion the same is true with chewing. Once one reaches the 100 day, 200 day or one year mark it is still crucial to never take that first dip because the addiction will be back with just one.
Twenty years ago I went from weekly binge drinking to no drinking. One year ago I went from 3-4 quarts of pop a day to no pop at all. I now drink nothing with calories. And I will never take another chew. Somebody save this post so you can throw it in my face if I fail.
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I posted this on my group's page, but I think here is a better place to ask.
General question here. I am not sure why 100 days was chosen for making the Hall of Fame. I am sure there is probably a good reason for it. Does anyone know for sure? Just a curious newbie.
It's a nice round number. That's really all there is to it.
Are you "cured" at 100 days? Not by a long shot. But by that point you've got all of the tools and resources available to you that you can make it for the long haul.
365 would probably be a more "appropriate" HOF number, but when you are just starting out after years (decades) of being a dipper, an entire year is just too daunting. 100 days is roughly 3 months. That's manageable.
That being said, QuitinCA said it best: “The end of each day without nicotine is my daily hall of fame.” That's the way you have to tackle this addiction. Day by day. Those +1s will add more and before you know, 100, 365 and even a comma will be in your past and you'll be on your way to freedom.
Chewie
Not to take away from that logic, but I entertained the 100 HOF for this place. It didn't mean anything to me. Once I had 7 days under my belt, I had full focus on 365. Now that that has passed I have full focus on 2 years.
This group will probably become more crucial for myself to be accountable to after 100 days then now. I am not worried at all whether or not I can quit for a week or a month or even 3 months. I quit for two years one time and something lead me to take a chew, you know just one and I was hooked again. Of course I realize that I made that choice after two years of having quit. I am also an alcoholic although I have not had a drink in over 20 years. I know though that if I even got a buzz I would not stop drinking until someone made me or I passed out. My only hope is to never take that first drink. And in my opinion the same is true with chewing. Once one reaches the 100 day, 200 day or one year mark it is still crucial to never take that first dip because the addiction will be back with just one.
Twenty years ago I went from weekly binge drinking to no drinking. One year ago I went from 3-4 quarts of pop a day to no pop at all. I now drink nothing with calories. And I will never take another chew. Somebody save this post so you can throw it in my face if I fail.
Long as we make that promise every morning, and keep our word...we will never fail.
We may make a stupid choice and CHOOSE to let nic back in, but we will have to make that choice alone.
And I pray that it never comes to that for any of us ever again.
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I'm one of those guys that started chewing to quit smoking.....biggest mistake I ever made. This is day one and I'm terrified. I would wake up and before even getting out of bed I would have one in untill right before I fell asleep. 2 cans a day 10 yrs. Sometimes more. I've quit before, didn't take, hoping this is the final... Any advice?
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I'm one of those guys that started chewing to quit smoking.....biggest mistake I ever made. This is day one and I'm terrified. I would wake up and before even getting out of bed I would have one in untill right before I fell asleep. 2 cans a day 10 yrs. Sometimes more. I've quit before, didn't take, hoping this is the final... Any advice?
I have advice Smokey - can you keep a promise for 24 hours? If so get yourself on the roll call on this thread and have no contact with nicotine for 24 hours.
April 2016 Quit group (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11465559/399/#new)
Once you have made your promise do whatever you need to do to keep that promise for 24 hours. Some folks use fake dip, sunflower seeds, mints, gums, atomic fireballs, beef jerky - whatever you need to put into your mouth besides chew. It is going to suck for a lot of days until it doesn't.
After 24 hours get back here and repeat the process. One day at a time (ODAAT), every damn day (EDD).
Ask for help in the April group and get some digits from your fellow April quitters and use them when you are having a tough day.
I quit with you today.
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My advice would be...Go see a Dr. as soon as possible and let him know what you are abut to embark on, I guarantee you will need something for anxiety. I did and I never had issues until after I quit dip. I felt and still do fell like a pussy. Before I quit dipping I would look at people with anxiety issues as weak pussy's and it could never happen to a guy like me, well today is day 159 for me and I still have to take meds, I hate taking pills! I don't want to scare you, but now you have committed to the quit and we, THE BROTHERHOOD will hold you accountable to the extent we can, untimely its up to you to hold yourself accountable. Hang in there and keep quit. We are all in this together.
I quit with you today.
I'm one of those guys that started chewing to quit smoking.....biggest mistake I ever made. This is day one and I'm terrified. I would wake up and before even getting out of bed I would have one in untill right before I fell asleep. 2 cans a day 10 yrs. Sometimes more. I've quit before, didn't take, hoping this is the final... Any advice?
I have advice Smokey - can you keep a promise for 24 hours? If so get yourself on the roll call on this thread and have no contact with nicotine for 24 hours.
April 2016 Quit group (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11465559/399/#new)
Once you have made your promise do whatever you need to do to keep that promise for 24 hours. Some folks use fake dip, sunflower seeds, mints, gums, atomic fireballs, beef jerky - whatever you need to put into your mouth besides chew. It is going to suck for a lot of days until it doesn't.
After 24 hours get back here and repeat the process. One day at a time (ODAAT), every damn day (EDD).
Ask for help in the April group and get some digits from your fellow April quitters and use them when you are having a tough day.
I quit with you today.
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Wow that posted wrong, that was meant for Smokey not Stranger.
My advice would be...Go see a Dr. as soon as possible and let him know what you are abut to embark on, I guarantee you will need something for anxiety. I did and I never had issues until after I quit dip. I felt and still do fell like a pussy. Before I quit dipping I would look at people with anxiety issues as weak pussy's and it could never happen to a guy like me, well today is day 159 for me and I still have to take meds, I hate taking pills! I don't want to scare you, but now you have committed to the quit and we, THE BROTHERHOOD will hold you accountable to the extent we can, untimely its up to you to hold yourself accountable. Hang in there and keep quit. We are all in this together.
I quit with you today.
I'm one of those guys that started chewing to quit smoking.....biggest mistake I ever made. This is day one and I'm terrified. I would wake up and before even getting out of bed I would have one in untill right before I fell asleep. 2 cans a day 10 yrs. Sometimes more. I've quit before, didn't take, hoping this is the final... Any advice?
I have advice Smokey - can you keep a promise for 24 hours? If so get yourself on the roll call on this thread and have no contact with nicotine for 24 hours.
April 2016 Quit group (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11465559/399/#new)
Once you have made your promise do whatever you need to do to keep that promise for 24 hours. Some folks use fake dip, sunflower seeds, mints, gums, atomic fireballs, beef jerky - whatever you need to put into your mouth besides chew. It is going to suck for a lot of days until it doesn't.
After 24 hours get back here and repeat the process. One day at a time (ODAAT), every damn day (EDD).
Ask for help in the April group and get some digits from your fellow April quitters and use them when you are having a tough day.
I quit with you today.
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Today marks 7 days dip free. Feeling some strong cravings today and am debating on ordering some fake snuff. In the meantime chewing on tooth picks soaked in tea tree oil. One step at a time.
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Today marks 7 days dip free. Feeling some strong cravings today and am debating on ordering some fake snuff. In the meantime chewing on tooth picks soaked in tea tree oil. One step at a time.
Welcome to the brotherhood! It is going to be a long crazy ride but all of us in the BROTHERHOOD are behind you 100%.
Make that promise to not pick that can up ever again, you will want to, but don't give in to the Nic Bitch. She will whisper sweet nothings in your ear to get you to re-commit to her, I now she is sexy to look, she is a 10 right now, but like the saying goes, I went to bed at 2 with a 10 and woke up at 10 with a 2. That's what she will look like after some time a 2, then she will just disgust you to look at her. Hang in there we are all here for you! 'bang head'
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Today marks 7 days dip free. Feeling some strong cravings today and am debating on ordering some fake snuff. In the meantime chewing on tooth picks soaked in tea tree oil. One step at a time.
Welcome to the brotherhood! It is going to be a long crazy ride but all of us in the BROTHERHOOD are behind you 100%.
Make that promise to not pick that can up ever again, you will want to, but don't give in to the Nic Bitch. She will whisper sweet nothings in your ear to get you to re-commit to her, I now she is sexy to look, she is a 10 right now, but like the saying goes, I went to bed at 2 with a 10 and woke up at 10 with a 2. That's what she will look like after some time a 2, then she will just disgust you to look at her. Hang in there we are all here for you! 'bang head'
I know all are different but the fake stuff didn't work for me. Number one reason I feel is because it is difficult to find places that carry it. You run out and don't have any place around where you can run to and buy it, what then. I went and bought Skoal and then started over at square one. I went to gum personally. Found a few common brands and flavors I like so when I travel I'm confident I can find it if I come up short. And when I crave a chew I soften up two pieces and slip it between my cheek and gum.
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Today marks 7 days dip free. Feeling some strong cravings today and am debating on ordering some fake snuff. In the meantime chewing on tooth picks soaked in tea tree oil. One step at a time.
Welcome to the brotherhood! It is going to be a long crazy ride but all of us in the BROTHERHOOD are behind you 100%.
Make that promise to not pick that can up ever again, you will want to, but don't give in to the Nic Bitch. She will whisper sweet nothings in your ear to get you to re-commit to her, I now she is sexy to look, she is a 10 right now, but like the saying goes, I went to bed at 2 with a 10 and woke up at 10 with a 2. That's what she will look like after some time a 2, then she will just disgust you to look at her. Hang in there we are all here for you! 'bang head'
I know all are different but the fake stuff didn't work for me. Number one reason I feel is because it is difficult to find places that carry it. You run out and don't have any place around where you can run to and buy it, what then. I went and bought Skoal and then started over at square one. I went to gum personally. Found a few common brands and flavors I like so when I travel I'm confident I can find it if I come up short. And when I crave a chew I soften up two pieces and slip it between my cheek and gum.
I'm glad I'm not the only one that makes "gum dip". Thought I was just crazy! 'Crazy'
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Today marks 7 days dip free. Feeling some strong cravings today and am debating on ordering some fake snuff. In the meantime chewing on tooth picks soaked in tea tree oil. One step at a time.
Welcome to the brotherhood! It is going to be a long crazy ride but all of us in the BROTHERHOOD are behind you 100%.
Make that promise to not pick that can up ever again, you will want to, but don't give in to the Nic Bitch. She will whisper sweet nothings in your ear to get you to re-commit to her, I now she is sexy to look, she is a 10 right now, but like the saying goes, I went to bed at 2 with a 10 and woke up at 10 with a 2. That's what she will look like after some time a 2, then she will just disgust you to look at her. Hang in there we are all here for you! 'bang head'
I know all are different but the fake stuff didn't work for me. Number one reason I feel is because it is difficult to find places that carry it. You run out and don't have any place around where you can run to and buy it, what then. I went and bought Skoal and then started over at square one. I went to gum personally. Found a few common brands and flavors I like so when I travel I'm confident I can find it if I come up short. And when I crave a chew I soften up two pieces and slip it between my cheek and gum.
I'm glad I'm not the only one that makes "gum dip". Thought I was just crazy! 'Crazy'
No, your not crazy at all. Sunday for some reason is the day I always face the worst when I have quit this time and in the past. Right now I have two strips of Doublemint between my cheek and gum. Best part is I don't ever have to spit.
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Today marks 7 days dip free. Feeling some strong cravings today and am debating on ordering some fake snuff. In the meantime chewing on tooth picks soaked in tea tree oil. One step at a time.
Welcome to the brotherhood! It is going to be a long crazy ride but all of us in the BROTHERHOOD are behind you 100%.
Make that promise to not pick that can up ever again, you will want to, but don't give in to the Nic Bitch. She will whisper sweet nothings in your ear to get you to re-commit to her, I now she is sexy to look, she is a 10 right now, but like the saying goes, I went to bed at 2 with a 10 and woke up at 10 with a 2. That's what she will look like after some time a 2, then she will just disgust you to look at her. Hang in there we are all here for you! 'bang head'
I know all are different but the fake stuff didn't work for me. Number one reason I feel is because it is difficult to find places that carry it. You run out and don't have any place around where you can run to and buy it, what then. I went and bought Skoal and then started over at square one. I went to gum personally. Found a few common brands and flavors I like so when I travel I'm confident I can find it if I come up short. And when I crave a chew I soften up two pieces and slip it between my cheek and gum.
I'm glad I'm not the only one that makes "gum dip". Thought I was just crazy! 'Crazy'
No, your not crazy at all. Sunday for some reason is the day I always face the worst when I have quit this time and in the past. Right now I have two strips of Doublemint between my cheek and gum. Best part is I don't ever have to spit.
Wish I'd thought of that. Yeah folks don't talk about that downside of the take--you often have to walk up to the REAL counter. And that's just too close.
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Dipped 1 can/day Grizzly for 5 years, quit for 6 months, and then stupidly started back again. Added another 8 years onto that. Made a commitment to myself and to my family to quit this nasty habit, and I would've broken already if it wasn't for the support on this website. Thank you all for sharing your stories and providing support to all of us who really need it in the beginning stages. Good luck to everyone in their quit!
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Dipped 1 can/day Grizzly for 5 years, quit for 6 months, and then stupidly started back again. Added another 8 years onto that. Made a commitment to myself and to my family to quit this nasty habit, and I would've broken already if it wasn't for the support on this website. Thank you all for sharing your stories and providing support to all of us who really need it in the beginning stages. Good luck to everyone in their quit!
KY, why don't you come join in on the fun over in the April 16 Pre-HOF quit group? You get that additional commitment of posting role every day, and get the "two way" support street.
Nothing to lose and everything to gain; how bout giving it a go if YOU are ready to make this THE quit!
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Today marks 7 days dip free. Feeling some strong cravings today and am debating on ordering some fake snuff. In the meantime chewing on tooth picks soaked in tea tree oil. One step at a time.
Welcome to the brotherhood! It is going to be a long crazy ride but all of us in the BROTHERHOOD are behind you 100%.
Make that promise to not pick that can up ever again, you will want to, but don't give in to the Nic Bitch. She will whisper sweet nothings in your ear to get you to re-commit to her, I now she is sexy to look, she is a 10 right now, but like the saying goes, I went to bed at 2 with a 10 and woke up at 10 with a 2. That's what she will look like after some time a 2, then she will just disgust you to look at her. Hang in there we are all here for you! 'bang head'
I know all are different but the fake stuff didn't work for me. Number one reason I feel is because it is difficult to find places that carry it. You run out and don't have any place around where you can run to and buy it, what then. I went and bought Skoal and then started over at square one. I went to gum personally. Found a few common brands and flavors I like so when I travel I'm confident I can find it if I come up short. And when I crave a chew I soften up two pieces and slip it between my cheek and gum.
On my first day of quit, I took tea bags and brewed them, then used the wet tea as a fake dip. It seemed to work for me. I've played around with that a bit by adding mint and some spices and it does the trick for me. Hard to find the fake stuff in my area (though I did order some on-line from teaza and elecit), but making my own is easier I think.
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Dipped 1 can/day Grizzly for 5 years, quit for 6 months, and then stupidly started back again. Added another 8 years onto that. Made a commitment to myself and to my family to quit this nasty habit, and I would've broken already if it wasn't for the support on this website. Thank you all for sharing your stories and providing support to all of us who really need it in the beginning stages. Good luck to everyone in their quit!
Make this 100% about you!!
Couple of word corrections if you don't mind
nasty habit = ADDICTION
good luck = DETERMINED RESOLVE
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Hello. I quit Grizzly Longcut Wintergreen on December 28, one month ago. But, I didn't quit nicotine. I began using Nicorette gum. I went through two 20 packs of 4mg gum, then bought a 110 pack of 2mg gum.
A week ago, Jan. 22, at about 12:00 noon, I chewed my last piece of Nicorette. My 110 pack was down to 31 pieces. I've kept them around for the last week "just incase", figuring it was better to cave on a piece of gum than a can of dip.
Today, I'm ready to throw the gum away. I would have already, but it's sitting in the glove compartment of my pick up.
What I have been doing is chomping on piece after piece after piece of Eclipse gum. I have to chew it two pieces at a time.
I'm 43, been dipping since 1991. Started out on Skoal, moved to Coppenhagen for a couple of years, and would say I was pretty much settled on Kodiak by about 1993, or 94. When Kodiak hit $5 a can about 10 years ago (I'm in Michigan - high tobacco taxes), I switched to Grizzly. That's where I've been since. A can costs about $3 locally, but some places I was spending almost $3.50 per can. I'd estimate I was using 7-10 cans per week.
I'd say this is my fourth serious attempt at a quit. I'd guess this is the second longest quit - but I suppose that depends on where you want to start the quit - one month ago when I kicked the can, or one week ago when I kicked the nic gum. I guess it doesn't really matter. If you guys want to brand me as one week quit rather than one month quit, that's fine.
The last time I tried to quit was 2011, 2006, and 2002. 2006 and 2002 coincide with when my two daughters were born. My 2006 quit was the longest - I'd say about 6, maybe even 7 weeks. I don't think either of 2011 or 2002 quits went more than a month.
So, why did I quit this time? The Dec. 28 date suggests a New Year resolution. That's not quite right. It has more to do with my holiday schedule than the holiday itself. I was off work that week - lots of family time, so I bought a pack of nic gum to get by. OK, I bought two packs - no need to run out, right.
As those 40 pieces were running out, I bought the 110 pack of 2mg gum, with a commitment to quit dip, and "eventually" quit nicotine.
Last Thursday, I got sick of being a slave to the damn gum! I had set up a schedule of a minimum of two hours between pieces, and my life was revolving around my next piece. I said to hell with it, and bought the Eclipse sugar free chewing gum. Now I chew that stuff almost constantly - and it's not cheap. It's not nearly as expensive as the GLW or Nic gum, but I dunno, a buck or a buck and a half a day? So, I'll have to start weaning myself off that.
Of course I quit for myself, and myself only. It had to be that way. Side benefits include improvement in family relations, saving money, less likely to get cancer, my breath doesn't stink, my teeth might eventually, some day, get less stained, that groove in my cheek is healing, no more spilled spitters, and other things that I'm not thinking of right now.
So, a hearty FUCK YOU to the entire tobacco industry, the entire smokeless tobacco portion of that industry, the American Snuff Company, and my local distributor. I do kind of feel sorry for the guy who took and filled the local orders each week, and kept the stores stocked with Grizzly. Heck, I was helping him make his car payment. Or helping send his kids to college. But, no doubt there's a new kid who started dipping in the last month or so to take my place. Hopefully he finds this site soon.
So, for those of you who are here, I'll be glad to make your acquaintance. If I'm not is quite the right spot, please direct me to where I should go. I didn't spend a lot of time trying to figure out where to be.
Good Luck!
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Hello. I quit Grizzly Longcut Wintergreen on December 28, one month ago. But, I didn't quit nicotine. I began using Nicorette gum. I went through two 20 packs of 4mg gum, then bought a 110 pack of 2mg gum.
A week ago, Jan. 21, at about 12:00 noon, I chewed my last piece of Nicorette. My 110 pack was down to 31 pieces. I've kept them around for the last week "just incase", figuring it was better to cave on a piece of gum than a can of dip.
Today, I'm ready to throw the gum away. I would have already, but it's sitting in the glove compartment of my pick up.
What I have been doing is chomping on piece after piece after piece of Eclipse gum. I have to chew it two pieces at a time.
I'm 43, been dipping since 1991. Started out on Skoal, moved to Coppenhagen for a couple of years, and would say I was pretty much settled on Kodiak by about 1993, or 94. When Kodiak hit $5 a can about 10 years ago (I'm in Michigan - high tobacco taxes), I switched to Grizzly. That's where I've been since. A can costs about $3 locally, but some places I was spending almost $3.50 per can. I'd estimate I was using 7-10 cans per week.
I'd say this is my fourth serious attempt at a quit. I'd guess this is the second longest quit - but I suppose that depends on where you want to start the quit - one month ago when I kicked the can, or one week ago when I kicked the nic gum. I guess it doesn't really matter. If you guys want to brand me as one week quit rather than one month quit, that's fine.
The last time I tried to quit was 2011, 2006, and 2002. 2006 and 2002 coincide with when my two daughters were born. My 2006 quit was the longest - I'd say about 6, maybe even 7 weeks. I don't think either of 2011 or 2002 quits went more than a month.
So, why did I quit this time? The Dec. 28 date suggests a New Year resolution. That's not quite right. It has more to do with my holiday schedule than the holiday itself. I was off work that week - lots of family time, so I bought a pack of nic gum to get by. OK, I bought two packs - no need to run out, right.
As those 40 pieces were running out, I bought the 110 pack of 2mg gum, with a commitment to quit dip, and "eventually" quit nicotine.
Last Thursday, I got sick of being a slave to the damn gum! I had set up a schedule of a minimum of two hours between pieces, and my life was revolving around my next piece. I said to hell with it, and bought the Eclipse sugar free chewing gum. Now I chew that stuff almost constantly - and it's not cheap. It's not nearly as expensive as the GLW or Nic gum, but I dunno, a buck or a buck and a half a day? So, I'll have to start weaning myself off that.
Of course I quit for myself, and myself only. It had to be that way. Side benefits include improvement in family relations, saving money, less likely to get cancer, my breath doesn't stink, my teeth might eventually, some day, get less stained, that groove in my cheek is healing, no more spilled spitters, and other things that I'm not thinking of right now.
So, a hearty FUCK YOU to the entire tobacco industry, the entire smokeless tobacco portion of that industry, the American Snuff Company, and my local distributor. I do kind of feel sorry for the guy who took and filled the local orders each week, and kept the stores stocked with Grizzly. Heck, I was helping him make his car payment. Or helping send his kids to college. But, no doubt there's a new kid who started dipping in the last month or so to take my place. Hopefully he finds this site soon.
So, for those of you who are here, I'll be glad to make your acquaintance. If I'm not is quite the right spot, please direct me to where I should go. I didn't spend a lot of time trying to figure out where to be.
Good Luck!
Great to have you RDB! Head over to April 2016 (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11465559/432/#new) and post roll with them. Posting roll is posting your promise that you will not use nicotine in any form today (including nic gum). You post as soon as you can after you wake up so that your April brethren know they can count on you to stay quit that day. Keep your promise for the rest of the day, go to bed, wake up and do it again. It really is that simple.
I would encourage you to get to know the April quitters. They will help you through some tough times, give you a few laughs, and make this quit stick. You'll blow past 7 weeks by getting in here and posting your promise one day at a time.
You can do this, but no need to do it alone.
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Hello. I quit Grizzly Longcut Wintergreen on December 28, one month ago. But, I didn't quit nicotine. I began using Nicorette gum. I went through two 20 packs of 4mg gum, then bought a 110 pack of 2mg gum.
A week ago, Jan. 21, at about 12:00 noon, I chewed my last piece of Nicorette. My 110 pack was down to 31 pieces. I've kept them around for the last week "just incase", figuring it was better to cave on a piece of gum than a can of dip.
Today, I'm ready to throw the gum away. I would have already, but it's sitting in the glove compartment of my pick up.
What I have been doing is chomping on piece after piece after piece of Eclipse gum. I have to chew it two pieces at a time.
I'm 43, been dipping since 1991. Started out on Skoal, moved to Coppenhagen for a couple of years, and would say I was pretty much settled on Kodiak by about 1993, or 94. When Kodiak hit $5 a can about 10 years ago (I'm in Michigan - high tobacco taxes), I switched to Grizzly. That's where I've been since. A can costs about $3 locally, but some places I was spending almost $3.50 per can. I'd estimate I was using 7-10 cans per week.
I'd say this is my fourth serious attempt at a quit. I'd guess this is the second longest quit - but I suppose that depends on where you want to start the quit - one month ago when I kicked the can, or one week ago when I kicked the nic gum. I guess it doesn't really matter. If you guys want to brand me as one week quit rather than one month quit, that's fine.
The last time I tried to quit was 2011, 2006, and 2002. 2006 and 2002 coincide with when my two daughters were born. My 2006 quit was the longest - I'd say about 6, maybe even 7 weeks. I don't think either of 2011 or 2002 quits went more than a month.
So, why did I quit this time? The Dec. 28 date suggests a New Year resolution. That's not quite right. It has more to do with my holiday schedule than the holiday itself. I was off work that week - lots of family time, so I bought a pack of nic gum to get by. OK, I bought two packs - no need to run out, right.
As those 40 pieces were running out, I bought the 110 pack of 2mg gum, with a commitment to quit dip, and "eventually" quit nicotine.
Last Thursday, I got sick of being a slave to the damn gum! I had set up a schedule of a minimum of two hours between pieces, and my life was revolving around my next piece. I said to hell with it, and bought the Eclipse sugar free chewing gum. Now I chew that stuff almost constantly - and it's not cheap. It's not nearly as expensive as the GLW or Nic gum, but I dunno, a buck or a buck and a half a day? So, I'll have to start weaning myself off that.
Of course I quit for myself, and myself only. It had to be that way. Side benefits include improvement in family relations, saving money, less likely to get cancer, my breath doesn't stink, my teeth might eventually, some day, get less stained, that groove in my cheek is healing, no more spilled spitters, and other things that I'm not thinking of right now.
So, a hearty FUCK YOU to the entire tobacco industry, the entire smokeless tobacco portion of that industry, the American Snuff Company, and my local distributor. I do kind of feel sorry for the guy who took and filled the local orders each week, and kept the stores stocked with Grizzly. Heck, I was helping him make his car payment. Or helping send his kids to college. But, no doubt there's a new kid who started dipping in the last month or so to take my place. Hopefully he finds this site soon.
So, for those of you who are here, I'll be glad to make your acquaintance. If I'm not is quite the right spot, please direct me to where I should go. I didn't spend a lot of time trying to figure out where to be.
Good Luck!
Welcome and congratulations on your decision.
You are addict to nicotine so the gum was just another delivery method and prolonged the suck. KTC quits cold turkey, toss that gum and bite a spoon.
The most important part of your quit is posting roll:
go over to MAY 2016 and post your promise
topic/11505241/49/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11505241/49/)
Quit on brother, see you tomorrow
Idaho Spuds
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Hello. I quit Grizzly Longcut Wintergreen on December 28, one month ago. But, I didn't quit nicotine. I began using Nicorette gum. I went through two 20 packs of 4mg gum, then bought a 110 pack of 2mg gum.
A week ago, Jan. 21, at about 12:00 noon, I chewed my last piece of Nicorette. My 110 pack was down to 31 pieces. I've kept them around for the last week "just incase", figuring it was better to cave on a piece of gum than a can of dip.
Today, I'm ready to throw the gum away. I would have already, but it's sitting in the glove compartment of my pick up.
What I have been doing is chomping on piece after piece after piece of Eclipse gum. I have to chew it two pieces at a time.
I'm 43, been dipping since 1991. Started out on Skoal, moved to Coppenhagen for a couple of years, and would say I was pretty much settled on Kodiak by about 1993, or 94. When Kodiak hit $5 a can about 10 years ago (I'm in Michigan - high tobacco taxes), I switched to Grizzly. That's where I've been since. A can costs about $3 locally, but some places I was spending almost $3.50 per can. I'd estimate I was using 7-10 cans per week.
I'd say this is my fourth serious attempt at a quit. I'd guess this is the second longest quit - but I suppose that depends on where you want to start the quit - one month ago when I kicked the can, or one week ago when I kicked the nic gum. I guess it doesn't really matter. If you guys want to brand me as one week quit rather than one month quit, that's fine.
The last time I tried to quit was 2011, 2006, and 2002. 2006 and 2002 coincide with when my two daughters were born. My 2006 quit was the longest - I'd say about 6, maybe even 7 weeks. I don't think either of 2011 or 2002 quits went more than a month.
So, why did I quit this time? The Dec. 28 date suggests a New Year resolution. That's not quite right. It has more to do with my holiday schedule than the holiday itself. I was off work that week - lots of family time, so I bought a pack of nic gum to get by. OK, I bought two packs - no need to run out, right.
As those 40 pieces were running out, I bought the 110 pack of 2mg gum, with a commitment to quit dip, and "eventually" quit nicotine.
Last Thursday, I got sick of being a slave to the damn gum! I had set up a schedule of a minimum of two hours between pieces, and my life was revolving around my next piece. I said to hell with it, and bought the Eclipse sugar free chewing gum. Now I chew that stuff almost constantly - and it's not cheap. It's not nearly as expensive as the GLW or Nic gum, but I dunno, a buck or a buck and a half a day? So, I'll have to start weaning myself off that.
Of course I quit for myself, and myself only. It had to be that way. Side benefits include improvement in family relations, saving money, less likely to get cancer, my breath doesn't stink, my teeth might eventually, some day, get less stained, that groove in my cheek is healing, no more spilled spitters, and other things that I'm not thinking of right now.
So, a hearty FUCK YOU to the entire tobacco industry, the entire smokeless tobacco portion of that industry, the American Snuff Company, and my local distributor. I do kind of feel sorry for the guy who took and filled the local orders each week, and kept the stores stocked with Grizzly. Heck, I was helping him make his car payment. Or helping send his kids to college. But, no doubt there's a new kid who started dipping in the last month or so to take my place. Hopefully he finds this site soon.
So, for those of you who are here, I'll be glad to make your acquaintance. If I'm not is quite the right spot, please direct me to where I should go. I didn't spend a lot of time trying to figure out where to be.
Good Luck!
Welcome and congratulations on your decision.
You are addict to nicotine so the gum was just another delivery method and prolonged the suck. KTC quits cold turkey, toss that gum and bite a spoon.
The most important part of your quit is posting roll:
go over to MAY 2016 and post your promise
topic/11505241/49/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11505241/49/)
Quit on brother, see you tomorrow
Idaho Spuds
I think based on the 1/21 quit date you are still in April RDB, but May would welcome your support as well I'm sure!
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Hello. I quit Grizzly Longcut Wintergreen on December 28, one month ago. But, I didn't quit nicotine. I began using Nicorette gum. I went through two 20 packs of 4mg gum, then bought a 110 pack of 2mg gum.
A week ago, Jan. 21, at about 12:00 noon, I chewed my last piece of Nicorette. My 110 pack was down to 31 pieces. I've kept them around for the last week "just incase", figuring it was better to cave on a piece of gum than a can of dip.
Today, I'm ready to throw the gum away. I would have already, but it's sitting in the glove compartment of my pick up.
What I have been doing is chomping on piece after piece after piece of Eclipse gum. I have to chew it two pieces at a time.
I'm 43, been dipping since 1991. Started out on Skoal, moved to Coppenhagen for a couple of years, and would say I was pretty much settled on Kodiak by about 1993, or 94. When Kodiak hit $5 a can about 10 years ago (I'm in Michigan - high tobacco taxes), I switched to Grizzly. That's where I've been since. A can costs about $3 locally, but some places I was spending almost $3.50 per can. I'd estimate I was using 7-10 cans per week.
I'd say this is my fourth serious attempt at a quit. I'd guess this is the second longest quit - but I suppose that depends on where you want to start the quit - one month ago when I kicked the can, or one week ago when I kicked the nic gum. I guess it doesn't really matter. If you guys want to brand me as one week quit rather than one month quit, that's fine.
The last time I tried to quit was 2011, 2006, and 2002. 2006 and 2002 coincide with when my two daughters were born. My 2006 quit was the longest - I'd say about 6, maybe even 7 weeks. I don't think either of 2011 or 2002 quits went more than a month.
So, why did I quit this time? The Dec. 28 date suggests a New Year resolution. That's not quite right. It has more to do with my holiday schedule than the holiday itself. I was off work that week - lots of family time, so I bought a pack of nic gum to get by. OK, I bought two packs - no need to run out, right.
As those 40 pieces were running out, I bought the 110 pack of 2mg gum, with a commitment to quit dip, and "eventually" quit nicotine.
Last Thursday, I got sick of being a slave to the damn gum! I had set up a schedule of a minimum of two hours between pieces, and my life was revolving around my next piece. I said to hell with it, and bought the Eclipse sugar free chewing gum. Now I chew that stuff almost constantly - and it's not cheap. It's not nearly as expensive as the GLW or Nic gum, but I dunno, a buck or a buck and a half a day? So, I'll have to start weaning myself off that.
Of course I quit for myself, and myself only. It had to be that way. Side benefits include improvement in family relations, saving money, less likely to get cancer, my breath doesn't stink, my teeth might eventually, some day, get less stained, that groove in my cheek is healing, no more spilled spitters, and other things that I'm not thinking of right now.
So, a hearty FUCK YOU to the entire tobacco industry, the entire smokeless tobacco portion of that industry, the American Snuff Company, and my local distributor. I do kind of feel sorry for the guy who took and filled the local orders each week, and kept the stores stocked with Grizzly. Heck, I was helping him make his car payment. Or helping send his kids to college. But, no doubt there's a new kid who started dipping in the last month or so to take my place. Hopefully he finds this site soon.
So, for those of you who are here, I'll be glad to make your acquaintance. If I'm not is quite the right spot, please direct me to where I should go. I didn't spend a lot of time trying to figure out where to be.
Good Luck!
Welcome and congratulations on your decision.
You are addict to nicotine so the gum was just another delivery method and prolonged the suck. KTC quits cold turkey, toss that gum and bite a spoon.
The most important part of your quit is posting roll:
go over to MAY 2016 and post your promise
topic/11505241/49/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11505241/49/)
Quit on brother, see you tomorrow
Idaho Spuds
I think based on the 1/21 quit date you are still in April RDB, but May would welcome your support as well I'm sure!
dang, getting all technical and what not.
"the only way to mess up roll, is to not be on it..." 'winker'
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Hello. I quit Grizzly Longcut Wintergreen on December 28, one month ago. But, I didn't quit nicotine. I began using Nicorette gum. I went through two 20 packs of 4mg gum, then bought a 110 pack of 2mg gum.
A week ago, Jan. 21, at about 12:00 noon, I chewed my last piece of Nicorette. My 110 pack was down to 31 pieces. I've kept them around for the last week "just incase", figuring it was better to cave on a piece of gum than a can of dip.
Today, I'm ready to throw the gum away. I would have already, but it's sitting in the glove compartment of my pick up.
What I have been doing is chomping on piece after piece after piece of Eclipse gum. I have to chew it two pieces at a time.
I'm 43, been dipping since 1991. Started out on Skoal, moved to Coppenhagen for a couple of years, and would say I was pretty much settled on Kodiak by about 1993, or 94. When Kodiak hit $5 a can about 10 years ago (I'm in Michigan - high tobacco taxes), I switched to Grizzly. That's where I've been since. A can costs about $3 locally, but some places I was spending almost $3.50 per can. I'd estimate I was using 7-10 cans per week.
I'd say this is my fourth serious attempt at a quit. I'd guess this is the second longest quit - but I suppose that depends on where you want to start the quit - one month ago when I kicked the can, or one week ago when I kicked the nic gum. I guess it doesn't really matter. If you guys want to brand me as one week quit rather than one month quit, that's fine.
The last time I tried to quit was 2011, 2006, and 2002. 2006 and 2002 coincide with when my two daughters were born. My 2006 quit was the longest - I'd say about 6, maybe even 7 weeks. I don't think either of 2011 or 2002 quits went more than a month.
So, why did I quit this time? The Dec. 28 date suggests a New Year resolution. That's not quite right. It has more to do with my holiday schedule than the holiday itself. I was off work that week - lots of family time, so I bought a pack of nic gum to get by. OK, I bought two packs - no need to run out, right.
As those 40 pieces were running out, I bought the 110 pack of 2mg gum, with a commitment to quit dip, and "eventually" quit nicotine.
Last Thursday, I got sick of being a slave to the damn gum! I had set up a schedule of a minimum of two hours between pieces, and my life was revolving around my next piece. I said to hell with it, and bought the Eclipse sugar free chewing gum. Now I chew that stuff almost constantly - and it's not cheap. It's not nearly as expensive as the GLW or Nic gum, but I dunno, a buck or a buck and a half a day? So, I'll have to start weaning myself off that.
Of course I quit for myself, and myself only. It had to be that way. Side benefits include improvement in family relations, saving money, less likely to get cancer, my breath doesn't stink, my teeth might eventually, some day, get less stained, that groove in my cheek is healing, no more spilled spitters, and other things that I'm not thinking of right now.
So, a hearty FUCK YOU to the entire tobacco industry, the entire smokeless tobacco portion of that industry, the American Snuff Company, and my local distributor. I do kind of feel sorry for the guy who took and filled the local orders each week, and kept the stores stocked with Grizzly. Heck, I was helping him make his car payment. Or helping send his kids to college. But, no doubt there's a new kid who started dipping in the last month or so to take my place. Hopefully he finds this site soon.
So, for those of you who are here, I'll be glad to make your acquaintance. If I'm not is quite the right spot, please direct me to where I should go. I didn't spend a lot of time trying to figure out where to be.
Good Luck!
Welcome and congratulations on your decision.
You are addict to nicotine so the gum was just another delivery method and prolonged the suck. KTC quits cold turkey, toss that gum and bite a spoon.
The most important part of your quit is posting roll:
go over to MAY 2016 and post your promise
topic/11505241/49/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11505241/49/)
Quit on brother, see you tomorrow
Idaho Spuds
I think based on the 1/21 quit date you are still in April RDB, but May would welcome your support as well I'm sure!
dang, getting all technical and what not.
"the only way to mess up roll, is to not be on it..." 'winker'
^^^^^
What he said. Get on that roll, doesn't matter how or where... Just quit every damn day!
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I quit 6 days ago. Used copenhagen and red seal for over 30 years. I did quit for nearly 2 and a half years approximately 7 years ago, but a family emergency happened and I was so stressed out that I justified this as a reason to start chewing the crap again. I promised my kids that I would quit, but I needed to get it into my head when the right day was my "quit day." I didn't want to use the new year as a quit day since so many people start their resolution on that day and oftentimes fail. I woke up one morning and ordered NoBac wintergreen and said I have got to do this. After getting the first order, I was going through it like a madman. The fog is nasty and I am having a horrible time focusing at work, being short tempered with my family, doing stupid uncoordinated things.. you know the drill.
Going to use this website for support and hopefully can find some people that can be a support system for me and also return the favor as well. What is funny is that I used to be an addiction counselor (drugs and alcohol), but I minimized my own use of tobacco and nicotine. I am an addict and want to get rid of the stuff permanently.
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I quit 6 days ago. Used copenhagen and red seal for over 30 years. I did quit for nearly 2 and a half years approximately 7 years ago, but a family emergency happened and I was so stressed out that I justified this as a reason to start chewing the crap again. I promised my kids that I would quit, but I needed to get it into my head when the right day was my "quit day." I didn't want to use the new year as a quit day since so many people start their resolution on that day and oftentimes fail. I woke up one morning and ordered NoBac wintergreen and said I have got to do this. After getting the first order, I was going through it like a madman. The fog is nasty and I am having a horrible time focusing at work, being short tempered with my family, doing stupid uncoordinated things.. you know the drill.
Going to use this website for support and hopefully can find some people that can be a support system for me and also return the favor as well. What is funny is that I used to be an addiction counselor (drugs and alcohol), but I minimized my own use of tobacco and nicotine. I am an addict and want to get rid of the stuff permanently.
Sub, 6 days is awesome. Yes it will suck for a while, then get better.
Nicotine is a tough addiction, but you can beat it today. Head to the May 2016 quit group (or check the dates in case King gets all technical again). The important part is to post roll, your daily promise to use no nicotine for 24 hours. The group is full of people who can and will support you. Trade digits with both new and older quitters, build your support network.
For the fog, drink lots of water and cranberry juice, exercise, read this site for information and inspiration.
For the temper, vent here, in your group, in live chat .. We can take it, we have lived it. Spare your family.
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Not really sure if this is the right place to post but I just joined and I am officially 24 hours without any dip. I never realized how much of a hold it had on me until this very moment.
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Not really sure if this is the right place to post but I just joined and I am officially 24 hours without any dip. I never realized how much of a hold it had on me until this very moment.
Slayer, anywhere is good. Welcome! Great decision to quit and free yourself from nicotine!
You should also head to the May 2016 quit group and post roll, your daily promise to use no nicotine. Introduce yourself to the quitters there, get to know them, exchange digits and build a support network.
Also exercise, drink lots of water, and read this site.
You can do this just like the rest of us: quit today. Wake up tomorrow and quit again. Simple -- yet hard because nicotine fights back. That hold is addiction. You are on day 2, keep winning.
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Question on weight gain.
Clearly it's difficult to snack when you have a mouthful of shit between your cheek and gum.
Now that my mouth is empty, I find myself snacking. A lot. I also justify it by the money I'm saving not buying the dip. I have at least three dollars a day I can throw to junk food now, and be money even. I'm guessing this isn't uncommon.
I was clicking around on this site yesterday, and found something that said that I'd have to gain 75 pounds before weight gain would be more dangerous to my health than to continue dipping. Fine. I don't see myself gaining 75 pounds, so I'm better off eating junk than dipping junk.
I know that eating healthfully takes the same kind of control and will power that quitting the dip takes. It's just that I'm kind of tapped out on control and will power at the moment.
It looks like I've gained about five pounds in the last month - that would be the month that I've been dip free, not nicotine free.
How many have struggled with weight gain while giving up the nic bitch? What did you do to turn it around?
Thanks
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Question on weight gain.
Clearly it's difficult to snack when you have a mouthful of shit between your cheek and gum.
Now that my mouth is empty, I find myself snacking. A lot. I also justify it by the money I'm saving not buying the dip. I have at least three dollars a day I can throw to junk food now, and be money even. I'm guessing this isn't uncommon.
I was clicking around on this site yesterday, and found something that said that I'd have to gain 75 pounds before weight gain would be more dangerous to my health than to continue dipping. Fine. I don't see myself gaining 75 pounds, so I'm better off eating junk than dipping junk.
I know that eating healthfully takes the same kind of control and will power that quitting the dip takes. It's just that I'm kind of tapped out on control and will power at the moment.
It looks like I've gained about five pounds in the last month - that would be the month that I've been dip free, not nicotine free.
How many have struggled with weight gain while giving up the nic bitch? What did you do to turn it around?
Thanks
First, you're absolutely right that it's way more important to focus on quitting than to fuss over moderate weight gain. It happens and it's ok. You can fix that down the road when you don't have your hands full with the nic bitch.
Now, there are ways limit the weight gain. First, exercise helps with the quit. Don't go from couch potato to doing Insanity right away, but keeping active helps. Some folks liked to deal with craves by knocking out pushups or heading to the gym. General weight management tips like planning ahead by packing healthy snacks so you don't have to face the vending machine at all help too.
Me, I use gum instead of candy as my oral fix when I crave. I also find that now that I'm not buying nicotine, I don't spend hardly any time in convenience stores. That has significantly reduced my junk intake.
Bottom line though, focus on quit. That's what matters.
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I just wanted to introduce myself, I just joined the site and am beginning my battle with quitting Grizzly Long Cut Straight! I have used chewing tobacco since I was 17 and have since then switched to snuff. It is my pleasure to say that today is my first day without any tobacco!
I hope that I can lean on someone in time of need! I know this is going to be very hard.
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I just wanted to introduce myself, I just joined the site and am beginning my battle with quitting Grizzly Long Cut Straight! I have used chewing tobacco since I was 17 and have since then switched to snuff. It is my pleasure to say that today is my first day without any tobacco!
I hope that I can lean on someone in time of need! I know this is going to be very hard.
Congratulations on your decision.
First post roll in your quit group:
topic/11505241/69/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11505241/69/)
This is the backbone of the site. Help others, support others, learn and be supported.
Idaho Spuds 530
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Been on and off with Copenhagen for the last 30 years. Tried several times and came back. Dumped my last can down the toilet tonight and starting off a Nicorette regime tomorrow. Planning on using the 12-week plan and then dropping the gum. For the first time I'm actually excited about my quit date rather than dreading it. This is a great site. Really feels like home just after reading a couple of the threads.
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Been on and off with Copenhagen for the last 30 years. Tried several times and came back. Dumped my last can down the toilet tonight and starting off a Nicorette regime tomorrow. Planning on using the 12-week plan and then dropping the gum. For the first time I'm actually excited about my quit date rather than dreading it. This is a great site. Really feels like home just after reading a couple of the threads.
Biro, our problem is nicotine addiction. Swapping forms of nicotine intake from dip to gum solves nothing. A planned quit is an excuse to delay later... "Oh, the gum doesn't work". Plus a ramp down likely extends the suck and fog instead of reducing it. This site is based on cold turkey nicotine cessation for those reasons.
It takes roughly 72 hours for nicotine to wash out of your system, during that time you experience physical withdrawal. Why extend that for 12 weeks (84 days)? It is a recipe for a cave. Dump the gum as well, quit cold turkey and in 12 weeks you will be enjoying freedom instead of starting the suck (well maybe starting the suck, planned quits rarely happen).
I dipped a can a day of Copenhagen for over 30 years. I survived a cold turkey quit and am on day 262. You can too. Man up and do it.
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Been on and off with Copenhagen for the last 30 years. Tried several times and came back. Dumped my last can down the toilet tonight and starting off a Nicorette regime tomorrow. Planning on using the 12-week plan and then dropping the gum. For the first time I'm actually excited about my quit date rather than dreading it. This is a great site. Really feels like home just after reading a couple of the threads.
Biro, our problem is nicotine addiction. Swapping forms of nicotine intake from dip to gum solves nothing. A planned quit is an excuse to delay later... "Oh, the gum doesn't work". Plus a ramp down likely extends the suck and fog instead of reducing it. This site is based on cold turkey nicotine cessation for those reasons.
It takes roughly 72 hours for nicotine to wash out of your system, during that time you experience physical withdrawal. Why extend that for 12 weeks (84 days)? It is a recipe for a cave. Dump the gum as well, quit cold turkey and in 12 weeks you will be enjoying freedom instead of starting the suck (well maybe starting the suck, planned quits rarely happen).
I dipped a can a day of Copenhagen for over 30 years. I survived a cold turkey quit and am on day 262. You can too. Man up and do it.
Can't say it any better than this ^^^ Biro. It's scary as hell at first, but jump in with both feet. This site is a testament that it works.
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Been on and off with Copenhagen for the last 30 years. Tried several times and came back. Dumped my last can down the toilet tonight and starting off a Nicorette regime tomorrow. Planning on using the 12-week plan and then dropping the gum. For the first time I'm actually excited about my quit date rather than dreading it. This is a great site. Really feels like home just after reading a couple of the threads.
I'm on a roll of burning bridges, so I'll just keep on going...
I started my quit with Nicorette. I started with 40-4mg pieces, then bought a 110 piece 2mg box. I chewed something like 78 of those, and decided to quit all forms of nicotine.
I've been off Grizzly for more than a month, and I've been off Nicorette for more than a week. I look at is as a tapering off. It seems to be working for me.
As you have certainly picked up, the group here is very intolerant toward nicotine replacement, and I can certainly see their point. If you chew the gum, you're not giving up nicotine, you're giving up dip, and continuing the addiction.
This is how I approached it - I was very aware that GlaxoSmithKline were hoping that I would replace my loyalty to Grizzly with a loyalty to Nicorette. I approached my use of Nicorette with a high level of distrust. I was committed to not replacing one nicotine delivery system with another. But at least I was dosing myself in very measured amounts, and extending the period between pieces each week. In the middle of the fourth week, I decided I was done with the Nicorette, and decided to go nicotine free. And, so far so good.
Here you go - one guy in support of your plan. Just one work of caution - approach Nicorette with a great deal of skepticism. Don't trust her. Know that she has ulterior motives. She wants you every bit as badly as Cope did. Don't trust the 12 week recommendation. When you're ready, give it up.
Let the flaming begin...
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Been on and off with Copenhagen for the last 30 years. Tried several times and came back. Dumped my last can down the toilet tonight and starting off a Nicorette regime tomorrow. Planning on using the 12-week plan and then dropping the gum. For the first time I'm actually excited about my quit date rather than dreading it. This is a great site. Really feels like home just after reading a couple of the threads.
I'm on a roll of burning bridges, so I'll just keep on going...
I started my quit with Nicorette. I started with 40-4mg pieces, then bought a 110 piece 2mg box. I chewed something like 78 of those, and decided to quit all forms of nicotine.
I've been off Grizzly for more than a month, and I've been off Nicorette for more than a week. I look at is as a tapering off. It seems to be working for me.
As you have certainly picked up, the group here is very intolerant toward nicotine replacement, and I can certainly see their point. If you chew the gum, you're not giving up nicotine, you're giving up dip, and continuing the addiction.
This is how I approached it - I was very aware that GlaxoSmithKline were hoping that I would replace my loyalty to Grizzly with a loyalty to Nicorette. I approached my use of Nicorette with a high level of distrust. I was committed to not replacing one nicotine delivery system with another. But at least I was dosing myself in very measured amounts, and extending the period between pieces each week. In the middle of the fourth week, I decided I was done with the Nicorette, and decided to go nicotine free. And, so far so good.
Here you go - one guy in support of your plan. Just one work of caution - approach Nicorette with a great deal of skepticism. Don't trust her. Know that she has ulterior motives. She wants you every bit as badly as Cope did. Don't trust the 12 week recommendation. When you're ready, give it up.
Let the flaming begin...
No flaming here, RDB, but I think you've missed the point. I have never seen anywhere on these forums where someone said cold turkey is the only way to quit. Rather, cold turkey is the only way to quit HERE. I'm sure there are hundreds of thousands of people that have quit tobacco by using NRT. I'm also sure there are support groups out there somewhere that advocate it.
You won't find that here. We advocate cold turkey, because you aren't QUIT until you have stopped putting this stuff in your bloodstream. There are no "safe" forms of nicotine. Further, you aren't addicted to the dip, you are addicted to the nicotine. I know this because "fake" or tobacco-free dip is not nearly as hot of a seller as poison-laced dip.
I've seen it many times on here, and it rings true to me: You don't quit drinking alcohol by swapping beer for liquor. If it has alcohol, you're feeding the addiction.
Biro, if you're deadset on tapering, find somewhere that will support you while you taper and then if you still want to join us when you're actually quit, feel free. My unsolicited advice is to just rip that bandaid off young man. Don't taper and slowly pull on that bandaid until it pulls every hair off your arm, rip it off and get to healing. It truly works.
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I just had a horrible panic attack! I was sitting here at work on my computer, going through emails, and I ran my tongue between my lip and gums like I've done a billion times before. But, this time there was nothing there! I calmed down and am fine now, but it was a scary moment. Damn you bitch! Beat it. I AM DONE WITH YOU! Pack your shit and get out. Or don't pack your shit. I don't really care either way. I just need you gone.The free ride is over. As the mighty Led Zeppelin said "I should have quit you babe, a long time ago."
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day 1 for me today - about 4 hours to go and it will be onto day 2... if I can sleep tonight!
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day 1 for me today - about 4 hours to go and it will be onto day 2... if I can sleep tonight!
The sleep will come back eventually. Post roll first thing every day, keep your promise, and repeat. One day at a time, you can and will do this!
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Been on and off with Copenhagen for the last 30 years. Tried several times and came back. Dumped my last can down the toilet tonight and starting off a Nicorette regime tomorrow. Planning on using the 12-week plan and then dropping the gum. For the first time I'm actually excited about my quit date rather than dreading it. This is a great site. Really feels like home just after reading a couple of the threads.
I'm on a roll of burning bridges, so I'll just keep on going...
I started my quit with Nicorette. I started with 40-4mg pieces, then bought a 110 piece 2mg box. I chewed something like 78 of those, and decided to quit all forms of nicotine.
I've been off Grizzly for more than a month, and I've been off Nicorette for more than a week. I look at is as a tapering off. It seems to be working for me.
As you have certainly picked up, the group here is very intolerant toward nicotine replacement, and I can certainly see their point. If you chew the gum, you're not giving up nicotine, you're giving up dip, and continuing the addiction.
This is how I approached it - I was very aware that GlaxoSmithKline were hoping that I would replace my loyalty to Grizzly with a loyalty to Nicorette. I approached my use of Nicorette with a high level of distrust. I was committed to not replacing one nicotine delivery system with another. But at least I was dosing myself in very measured amounts, and extending the period between pieces each week. In the middle of the fourth week, I decided I was done with the Nicorette, and decided to go nicotine free. And, so far so good.
Here you go - one guy in support of your plan. Just one work of caution - approach Nicorette with a great deal of skepticism. Don't trust her. Know that she has ulterior motives. She wants you every bit as badly as Cope did. Don't trust the 12 week recommendation. When you're ready, give it up.
Let the flaming begin...
you are not quit here until you stop ingesting nicotine in any form. no flaming, that is just how KTC works.
rdb, do you know on what date you stopped the Nicorette because that would be your actual quit date?
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Been on and off with Copenhagen for the last 30 years. Tried several times and came back. Dumped my last can down the toilet tonight and starting off a Nicorette regime tomorrow. Planning on using the 12-week plan and then dropping the gum. For the first time I'm actually excited about my quit date rather than dreading it. This is a great site. Really feels like home just after reading a couple of the threads.
I'm on a roll of burning bridges, so I'll just keep on going...
I started my quit with Nicorette. I started with 40-4mg pieces, then bought a 110 piece 2mg box. I chewed something like 78 of those, and decided to quit all forms of nicotine.
I've been off Grizzly for more than a month, and I've been off Nicorette for more than a week. I look at is as a tapering off. It seems to be working for me.
As you have certainly picked up, the group here is very intolerant toward nicotine replacement, and I can certainly see their point. If you chew the gum, you're not giving up nicotine, you're giving up dip, and continuing the addiction.
This is how I approached it - I was very aware that GlaxoSmithKline were hoping that I would replace my loyalty to Grizzly with a loyalty to Nicorette. I approached my use of Nicorette with a high level of distrust. I was committed to not replacing one nicotine delivery system with another. But at least I was dosing myself in very measured amounts, and extending the period between pieces each week. In the middle of the fourth week, I decided I was done with the Nicorette, and decided to go nicotine free. And, so far so good.
Here you go - one guy in support of your plan. Just one work of caution - approach Nicorette with a great deal of skepticism. Don't trust her. Know that she has ulterior motives. She wants you every bit as badly as Cope did. Don't trust the 12 week recommendation. When you're ready, give it up.
Let the flaming begin...
you are not quit here until you stop ingesting nicotine in any form. no flaming, that is just how KTC works.
rdb, do you know on what date you stopped the Nicorette because that would be your actual quit date?
People end up chewing nicorette for years. I work with one.
You are basically extending the withdrawals.
It's almost like me trying to "cut back" year after year.
The addiction is with nicotine. Instead of dropping dip for nicorette--where you're still feeding your addiction--why not try the fake stuff? Smokey Mtn Wintergreen was pretty good and there are lots of options.
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I have a question for those that did or still are using tobacco free chew AKA "The fake stuff".How long after your first day quit did you use it? If you are still using it, how long have you been quit? I'm hoping I can just put it down and walk away. Too soon for me now, though.
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I have a question for those that did or still are using tobacco free chew AKA "The fake stuff".How long after your first day quit did you use it? If you are still using it, how long have you been quit? I'm hoping I can just put it down and walk away. Too soon for me now, though.
I used a can + of fake every day for a good 220 days or so into my quit. Then one day... just didn't need it anymore. Haven't looked back since. Coming up on 10 years in July.
It's a tool. A great one at that. Use it.
My 2 cents.
chewie
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I have a question for those that did or still are using tobacco free chew AKA "The fake stuff".How long after your first day quit did you use it? If you are still using it, how long have you been quit? I'm hoping I can just put it down and walk away. Too soon for me now, though.
I used a can + of fake every day for a good 220 days or so into my quit. Then one day... just didn't need it anymore. Haven't looked back since. Coming up on 10 years in July.
It's a tool. A great one at that. Use it.
My 2 cents.
chewie
Use it on the first day you quit--that's when you'll need it most. I mean, give seeds and gum and water and toothpicks a chance too. But the fake comes the closest. You can worry about "quitting" the fake later.
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I have a question for those that did or still are using tobacco free chew AKA "The fake stuff".How long after your first day quit did you use it? If you are still using it, how long have you been quit? I'm hoping I can just put it down and walk away. Too soon for me now, though.
I used a can + of fake every day for a good 220 days or so into my quit. Then one day... just didn't need it anymore. Haven't looked back since. Coming up on 10 years in July.
It's a tool. A great one at that. Use it.
My 2 cents.
chewie
Use it on the first day you quit--that's when you'll need it most. I mean, give seeds and gum and water and toothpicks a chance too. But the fake comes the closest. You can worry about "quitting" the fake later.
Have it handy, along with anything else you need. I am over prepared when I know I will be in a situation where I will be expose to it, I got a different thing in each pocket.
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So, I just ran a chainsaw for the first time in my life DIP FREE!!!
Believe it or not, those things will run without the operator having a giant wad of Copenhagen stuffed is his lip. Who knew.
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I have a question for those that did or still are using tobacco free chew AKA "The fake stuff".How long after your first day quit did you use it? If you are still using it, how long have you been quit? I'm hoping I can just put it down and walk away. Too soon for me now, though.
I am on the 33/34 day mark, and am currently using the Hooch Wintergreen (chewie was right, the stuff is awesome in my opinion as well). At first, I used about a can a day. Now, I'm down to about a can a week. But in reality, as long as I can afford fake I will use it if it keeps me off the real cat shit.
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I have a question for those that did or still are using tobacco free chew AKA "The fake stuff".How long after your first day quit did you use it? If you are still using it, how long have you been quit? I'm hoping I can just put it down and walk away. Too soon for me now, though.
I am on the 33/34 day mark, and am currently using the Hooch Wintergreen (chewie was right, the stuff is awesome in my opinion as well). At first, I used about a can a day. Now, I'm down to about a can a week. But in reality, as long as I can afford fake I will use it if it keeps me off the real cat shit.
Good to know. I guess I feel like I'm still using. It actually freaks me out. It does such a good job, I worry I won't be able to stop using it, and I really want to get to a point where I don't have anything in there, ever.
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I have a question for those that did or still are using tobacco free chew AKA "The fake stuff".How long after your first day quit did you use it? If you are still using it, how long have you been quit? I'm hoping I can just put it down and walk away. Too soon for me now, though.
I am on the 33/34 day mark, and am currently using the Hooch Wintergreen (chewie was right, the stuff is awesome in my opinion as well). At first, I used about a can a day. Now, I'm down to about a can a week. But in reality, as long as I can afford fake I will use it if it keeps me off the real cat shit.
Good to know. I guess I feel like I'm still using. It actually freaks me out. It does such a good job, I worry I won't be able to stop using it, and I really want to get to a point where I don't have anything in there, ever.
I can understand where you are coming from. And yes, eventually I would enjoy not having to have anything stuck in my mouth. But it took me years to reach the "level" of addiction I was at, and I fully expect it to take years to finally "break" the oral addiction.
As a wise man once said, one thing at a time is all I can take!
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For those that are still lurking and haven't made the commitment yet, another reason to quit:
If you are married, your wife or husband WILL want to have sex with you more once you're quit.
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Hey, maybe not everybody knows, but there is a blog for quitters. You can find it at http://www.quit4today.com (http://www.quit4today.com) . I just added my first post. It's another type of outlet for talking about your quit and other stuff. I think it would be great if there was more activity over there. Come over, and give it a try.
RDB1972 - 14 Days Quit.
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Hey, maybe not everybody knows, but there is a blog for quitters. You can find it at http://www.quit4today.com (http://www.quit4today.com) . I just added my first post. It's another type of outlet for talking about your quit and other stuff. I think it would be great if there was more activity over there. Come over, and give it a try.
RDB1972 - 14 Days Quit.
Great stuff RDB!
http://www.quit4today.com/in-the-beginning/ (http://www.quit4today.com/in-the-beginning/)
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I have a question for those that did or still are using tobacco free chew AKA "The fake stuff".How long after your first day quit did you use it? If you are still using it, how long have you been quit? I'm hoping I can just put it down and walk away. Too soon for me now, though.
I am on the 33/34 day mark, and am currently using the Hooch Wintergreen (chewie was right, the stuff is awesome in my opinion as well). At first, I used about a can a day. Now, I'm down to about a can a week. But in reality, as long as I can afford fake I will use it if it keeps me off the real cat shit.
Good to know. I guess I feel like I'm still using. It actually freaks me out. It does such a good job, I worry I won't be able to stop using it, and I really want to get to a point where I don't have anything in there, ever.
I can understand where you are coming from. And yes, eventually I would enjoy not having to have anything stuck in my mouth. But it took me years to reach the "level" of addiction I was at, and I fully expect it to take years to finally "break" the oral addiction.
As a wise man once said, one thing at a time is all I can take!
I used fake my first 70 days. Put it down and walked away when I was done. Today I posted my 708th day of freedom from nicotine. Yes, fake helped me when I needed it.
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I have a question for those that did or still are using tobacco free chew AKA "The fake stuff".How long after your first day quit did you use it? If you are still using it, how long have you been quit? I'm hoping I can just put it down and walk away. Too soon for me now, though.
I am on the 33/34 day mark, and am currently using the Hooch Wintergreen (chewie was right, the stuff is awesome in my opinion as well). At first, I used about a can a day. Now, I'm down to about a can a week. But in reality, as long as I can afford fake I will use it if it keeps me off the real cat shit.
Good to know. I guess I feel like I'm still using. It actually freaks me out. It does such a good job, I worry I won't be able to stop using it, and I really want to get to a point where I don't have anything in there, ever.
I can understand where you are coming from. And yes, eventually I would enjoy not having to have anything stuck in my mouth. But it took me years to reach the "level" of addiction I was at, and I fully expect it to take years to finally "break" the oral addiction.
As a wise man once said, one thing at a time is all I can take!
I used fake my first 70 days. Put it down and walked away when I was done. Today I posted my 708th day of freedom from nicotine. Yes, fake helped me when I needed it.
I used it for about six months strong. Then I just noticed myself using it less and less until I said enough of that to and now I'm on day 335. I say everyone is different and use it until YOU think it is ok to stop.
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I have a question for those that did or still are using tobacco free chew AKA "The fake stuff".How long after your first day quit did you use it? If you are still using it, how long have you been quit? I'm hoping I can just put it down and walk away. Too soon for me now, though.
I am on the 33/34 day mark, and am currently using the Hooch Wintergreen (chewie was right, the stuff is awesome in my opinion as well). At first, I used about a can a day. Now, I'm down to about a can a week. But in reality, as long as I can afford fake I will use it if it keeps me off the real cat shit.
Good to know. I guess I feel like I'm still using. It actually freaks me out. It does such a good job, I worry I won't be able to stop using it, and I really want to get to a point where I don't have anything in there, ever.
I can understand where you are coming from. And yes, eventually I would enjoy not having to have anything stuck in my mouth. But it took me years to reach the "level" of addiction I was at, and I fully expect it to take years to finally "break" the oral addiction.
As a wise man once said, one thing at a time is all I can take!
I used fake my first 70 days. Put it down and walked away when I was done. Today I posted my 708th day of freedom from nicotine. Yes, fake helped me when I needed it.
I used it for about six months strong. Then I just noticed myself using it less and less until I said enough of that to and now I'm on day 335. I say everyone is different and use it until YOU think it is ok to stop.
I used Jakes, Hooch, Smokey Mountain, Coffee grounds , Fresh mint..whatever it took to keep me from dipping the crap.
I eased off around 250 and at 313 I don't use it any more.
I do dip fine ground coffee ground every couple week if I get super stressed, but I was naturally weened off it seems.
No shame it using it EVER. I have a tin of fake now "in case" like for Poker night (with tons of dippers,smokers, vapers there) , or fishing all day.
But the thought of it now is really not there, and I have an aversion to it really.
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Working on tree weeks dip free today. Tooth picks have been my go to. Biggest thing I realized is that the cravings are the strongest when you are thinking about the activity you used to dip doing...like when I think about sitting down to work on the computer for a while or a long drive I want to go buy dip. But when you are actually in the situation and you just use one of the tools, like the toothpicks...its not as hard as it used to be. My mouth feels amazing and I feel like I can make out with my wife again without being self conscious that I have dip stuck in my teeth.
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After 25 years of hard-core Kodiak dipping, today marks the six-month anniversary of being 100% tobacco free. But I didn’t “quit”. Even if I remain dip-free for the next ten years, I will never claim I permanently quit this habit. I did it too long to be so arrogant. I know Kodiak is a dogged enemy of mine waiting for a moment of weakness to strike back. I just like to think I stopped – it sounds safer. Although I have made efforts in the past to stop, this time is markedly different. I am as confident as possible I will never have a dip again. Remarkably the urges have stopped, even on my bad days. I am posting this note to hopefully inspire or at least assist others in “killing the can.”
Why did I stop? To save money? No – a few dollars a day is meaningless to me. I wear $2,000 suits, drive a $100,000 car, and waste much more money on things other than dip.
For my health? No, like others, I foolishly think I am immune from disease (even though I had painful graft surgery on my gums ten years ago).
The reason I stopped? The answer is easy. To avoid the physiological distress caused by the urge to dip in a social situation where I am unable to do so. We’ve all been there: work or social functions, unable to dip, and suffering because of it, or making excuses to leave to give in to the urge. Having been tobacco-free for six months, I can definitely say it was worth it – it is so much more enjoyable to be social without having to fret about how I could sneak away to put in a dip. I can play golf with strangers without having to worry about spitting on their line. I can go to a friend’s house and enjoy watching TV and having a beer without squirming to find a way to dip.
But, alas, how did I do it? One word: hypnosis. I found a hypnotist in my area and went to two sessions. It worked for a few weeks, with a few slips in that time. Ultimately, it didnÂ’t hold. So I tried it again. With another hypnotist. Wow. This guy used a process where he associated dipping with vomiting. He recorded the twenty-minute session on my phone, and instructed me to listen to it morning and night for 30 days. The vomit-dip association didnÂ’t happen instantly. But I stuck with it and 30 days later, the urges were practically gone. I can honestly say the thought of putting Kodiak in my lip and spitting into a cup now disgusts me. I feel embarrassed for my old self for publically displaying such gross behavior for 25 years.
I didn’t know this guy before I went – someone else found him for me. I haven’t spoken to him since. (I probably should thank him!) But I feel guilty not putting his name out for others to see: Steven M. Rosenberg, located outside Philadelphia. (215) 782-8414. I cannot recall the price for the session, but it was a few hundred dollars or so.
A few other tips. First, try ginger chews. Try several different brands and sizes for the ones you like best. I liked the larger sizes. You can put it in your gums, and it gives you a little kick. Obviously it is not quite the same as dipping, but it is the best substitute I could find.
Second, try fake dip. I tried many different brands, and found a few that performed OK. I primarily used it on the golf course, along with ginger chews.
Third, the first few days are brutal. Brutal. There is no way to avoid this. It is as if you lost your best friend (cliché, I know, but so true. Remember, your friend didn't die, he just went away for an indefinite period of time). Plan ahead, put your head down, and get through it. I slept much of my first few days, “wasting the days away.” Here is the key: remember how tough it is as you get through it. It gets better, slowly and gradually. Then, a week or two later, when the urge starts to creep in for a quick dip, just remember how tough those first few days were. You don’t want to put yourself through that hell again. This thought helped me get through it. I was pitting my current self (the urge to dip) against my future self (going through that hell again the first few days of stopping). The future self won out, and the urge subsided. After a few weeks of going through this process, the urge passes quickly. So, ironically, the harder the first few days are for you, the easier it will be for you to resist the urges in the few weeks that follow that hell.
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Hello. I am currently on day 9 of quitting. I seem to be doing fine but have been having a sore throat and some jaw pain over the last couple of days. Are these common symptoms from quitting snuff as well? Thanks
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Hello. I am currently on day 9 of quitting. I seem to be doing fine but have been having a sore throat and some jaw pain over the last couple of days. Are these common symptoms from quitting snuff as well? Thanks
Very typical I had the same, drove me insane. Your body is healing, it will take time.
Are you on roll yet? If not what will keep you from using again when your throat and jaw feel better?
http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/sym ... -dip-chew/ (http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/symptoms-of-quitting-dip-chew/)
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day 1 for me today - about 4 hours to go and it will be onto day 2... if I can sleep tonight!
day 2 has been a better day for me than 1. hang in there
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okay, just want to know if I'm missing out on something you guys are using;
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okay, just want to know if I'm missing out on something you guys are using;
Using?
We use guts, grit and determination reinforced by brotherhood and accountability.
Substitutes, gum, candy, toothpicks, exercise, water, etc., they are all the weapons we reach for in the battle of quit. At the end of the day though, quit is bigger than any of that.
Post roll and commit to your word. Get to know your brothers in your quit group and lean on them when you are struggling. Push them forward when they lean on you.
At the end of the day, it is far more simple than we make it. Simply quit today. Tomorrow, we'll we rinse and repeat.
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okay, just want to know if I'm missing out on something you guys are using;
Using?
We use guts, grit and determination reinforced by brotherhood and accountability.
Substitutes, gum, candy, toothpicks, exercise, water, etc., they are all the weapons we reach for in the battle of quit. At the end of the day though, quit is bigger than any of that.
Post roll and commit to your word. Get to know your brothers in your quit group and lean on them when you are struggling. Push them forward when they lean on you.
At the end of the day, it is far more simple than we make it. Simply quit today. Tomorrow, we'll we rinse and repeat.
^^^ not much to add to that but:
you need to work out hard, hot shower afterwards, rub one out and then you will fall asleep like baby.
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I'm curious if anyone has been screened for cancer.
A few years ago (OK, like 15 years ago) a dentist suggested that I get a cancer screening and I ignored him.
Now that I'm quit, and over 40 maybe I should. OK, definitely I should.
Just curious if anyone else has, and how it may have gone.
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I'm curious if anyone has been screened for cancer.
A few years ago (OK, like 15 years ago) a dentist suggested that I get a cancer screening and I ignored him.
Now that I'm quit, and over 40 maybe I should. OK, definitely I should.
Just curious if anyone else has, and how it may have gone.
Good topic! Your dentist should be performing a cancer screening during your bi-annual visit. They should use a light, look under your tongue and around your mouth. I blatantly ask them to give me a good look over, they should also feel your neck and jaw.
I also ask my doctor and he checks as well.
Lastly, if you really want to be reassured, go see an oral surgeon, they will check you out as well.
Be open in your quit, tell them and be proud of your days. I am pumped to tell my dentist that I am 543 days free.
Idaho Spuds 543
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I'm curious if anyone has been screened for cancer.
A few years ago (OK, like 15 years ago) a dentist suggested that I get a cancer screening and I ignored him.
Now that I'm quit, and over 40 maybe I should. OK, definitely I should.
Just curious if anyone else has, and how it may have gone.
Good topic! Your dentist should be performing a cancer screening during your bi-annual visit. They should use a light, look under your tongue and around your mouth. I blatantly ask them to give me a good look over, they should also feel your neck and jaw.
I also ask my doctor and he checks as well.
Lastly, if you really want to be reassured, go see an oral surgeon, they will check you out as well.
Be open in your quit, tell them and be proud of your days. I am pumped to tell my dentist that I am 543 days free.
Idaho Spuds 543
I have my dentist give me the cancer check every time I visit him (twice a year).
He looks under my tongue, way back in my throat, gums, etc. Even after nearly 10 years quit it's a beautiful thing to hear "all clear".
Chewie
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This seems dumb for being a recent HOFer, but I can't find any reference to a word on my HOF coin (which is awesome, by the way!)
"QSXtreme" = Quit Support eXtreme?
Thanks for creating and maintaining this incredible site system. I have stopped before but now I am quit for today and looking forward to making my promise tomorrow to add another +1!
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This seems dumb for being a recent HOFer, but I can't find any reference to a word on my HOF coin (which is awesome, by the way!)
"QSXtreme" = Quit Support eXtreme?
Thanks for creating and maintaining this incredible site system. I have stopped before but now I am quit for today and looking forward to making my promise tomorrow to add another +1!
QSX is Quit Smokeless eXtreme. I don't know the exact history (Chewie can chime in if he feels like it), but that was KTC's original name when the site was first established.
As for HOF coins, you can order them via the KTC Store (http://store.killthecan.org/). If you want the coin custom engraved, you have to purchase the coin item and the custom coin engraving item.
Congrats on hitting the hall!
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This seems dumb for being a recent HOFer, but I can't find any reference to a word on my HOF coin (which is awesome, by the way!)
"QSXtreme" = Quit Support eXtreme?
Thanks for creating and maintaining this incredible site system. I have stopped before but now I am quit for today and looking forward to making my promise tomorrow to add another +1!
QSX is Quit Smokeless eXtreme. I don't know the exact history (Chewie can chime in if he feels like it), but that was KTC's original name when the site was first established.
As for HOF coins, you can order them via the KTC Store (http://store.killthecan.org/). If you want the coin custom engraved, you have to purchase the coin item and the custom coin engraving item.
Congrats on hitting the hall!
The original name for this forum was QSX = Quit Smokeless Extreme.
That reference persists to this day on our coins, wristbands, etc.
Congrats HOFer!!!
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I'm looking for a good alternative to skoal wintergeen fine cut. It tried Smokey mountain didn't care for it much
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I'm looking for a good alternative to skoal wintergeen fine cut. It tried Smokey mountain didn't care for it much
There are a ton of great alternatives out there:
http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/reviews/ (http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/reviews/)
If SMC isn't your thing I'd point you to Hooch, Holt and Bacc-Off as good Wintergreen alternatives.
Chewie
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I'm looking for a good alternative to skoal wintergeen fine cut. It tried Smokey mountain didn't care for it much
I chewed skoal long cut wintergreen... and grizzly later on... I found that hooch was the best alternative for me.... I could only get it online: https://hoochsnuff.com/Products.aspx?SID=046N5950399959 (https://hoochsnuff.com/Products.aspx?SID=046N5950399959).
you can do this. we can help.
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Thanks just ordered some bacc off. I caved today and bought a can today but only had 2 pinchs.
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Has anyone tried nico-free ultra for dippers. It's on the bacc off website.
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Thanks just ordered some bacc off. I caved today and bought a can today but only had 2 pinchs.
pokey, at some point you are going to have to decide to quit... at some point you are going to have to decide to do whatever it takes to stay quit, and pay the price. If smokey mountain doesn't do it for you, go find something that does that does not contain nicotine. sunflower seeds, gum, beef jerky, candy, etc... if it's getting to you, go do something else, go for a walk/run lift weights... whatever it takes. I know this isn't easy at first, that's why you need to jump in with both feet and fight your way through the first few days.
Post your day 1 and know that you never have to repeat it unless you choose.
Just 24 hours... you can do that, can't you?
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Just passed one month dip free on Friday. Cravings have suddenly gotten worse. I am so tempted to just go grab a tin and just start over again later....does this get any easier????
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Hi everyone at KillTheCan.org
wow, what an amazing resource in the fight against the "nic bitch". Brought here by a friend and out of the blue jumped on the band wagon. I would say for the past 13 years out of 15 addicted to the most cunning drug out there, I wanted to quit. Most ever gone was 1 week. I am Day 2 now with a vast amount of resolve and it is largely in part to this strong platform to stand on or watch and learn. Now, since I am so new, I will say that in all hopes that I am not a failure. I do matter, and my life does mean something. Got smokey mountain in right now, and fighting every urge. No to nicotine. No. No matter what it throws at me.
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Hi everyone at KillTheCan.org
wow, what an amazing resource in the fight against the "nic bitch". Brought here by a friend and out of the blue jumped on the band wagon. I would say for the past 13 years out of 15 addicted to the most cunning drug out there, I wanted to quit. Most ever gone was 1 week. I am Day 2 now with a vast amount of resolve and it is largely in part to this strong platform to stand on or watch and learn. Now, since I am so new, I will say that in all hopes that I am not a failure. I do matter, and my life does mean something. Got smokey mountain in right now, and fighting every urge. No to nicotine. No. No matter what it throws at me.
Keep it up. As I said I am a month in and just coming here after my little rant and reading some of the posts...this site is amazing. The best motivation for me is my little boy. I want to be around for him and I never want him to have to deal with this addiction. Make sure you get onto a roll call in the quit groups. I just got on one today. Wasn't sure if I did it right. But it makes you accountable one day at a time. That's all this is anyway. Don't look at the rest of your life as a trial of not dipping. Just look at each day as a promise you won't dip.
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Hi everyone at KillTheCan.org
wow, what an amazing resource in the fight against the "nic bitch". Brought here by a friend and out of the blue jumped on the band wagon. I would say for the past 13 years out of 15 addicted to the most cunning drug out there, I wanted to quit. Most ever gone was 1 week. I am Day 2 now with a vast amount of resolve and it is largely in part to this strong platform to stand on or watch and learn. Now, since I am so new, I will say that in all hopes that I am not a failure. I do matter, and my life does mean something. Got smokey mountain in right now, and fighting every urge. No to nicotine. No. No matter what it throws at me.
Keep it up. As I said I am a month in and just coming here after my little rant and reading some of the posts...this site is amazing. The best motivation for me is my little boy. I want to be around for him and I never want him to have to deal with this addiction. Make sure you get onto a roll call in the quit groups. I just got on one today. Wasn't sure if I did it right. But it makes you accountable one day at a time. That's all this is anyway. Don't look at the rest of your life as a trial of not dipping. Just look at each day as a promise you won't dip.
I am still learning how to conversate myself. Funny you said to post roll, I was reading where someone said the only people that cave are the ones that don't steel their temptation by posting roll.
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Hi everyone at KillTheCan.org
wow, what an amazing resource in the fight against the "nic bitch". Brought here by a friend and out of the blue jumped on the band wagon. I would say for the past 13 years out of 15 addicted to the most cunning drug out there, I wanted to quit. Most ever gone was 1 week. I am Day 2 now with a vast amount of resolve and it is largely in part to this strong platform to stand on or watch and learn. Now, since I am so new, I will say that in all hopes that I am not a failure. I do matter, and my life does mean something. Got smokey mountain in right now, and fighting every urge. No to nicotine. No. No matter what it throws at me.
Keep it up. As I said I am a month in and just coming here after my little rant and reading some of the posts...this site is amazing. The best motivation for me is my little boy. I want to be around for him and I never want him to have to deal with this addiction. Make sure you get onto a roll call in the quit groups. I just got on one today. Wasn't sure if I did it right. But it makes you accountable one day at a time. That's all this is anyway. Don't look at the rest of your life as a trial of not dipping. Just look at each day as a promise you won't dip.
I am still learning how to conversate myself. Funny you said to post roll, I was reading where someone said the only people that cave are the ones that don't steel their temptation by posting roll.
Posting roll is very important to your success. Read the welcome posts to better understand the tools this site offers.
You both would post in the May 2016 quit group (under the quit groups)
Roll posting instructions: topic/1003072/1/#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1003072/1/#new)
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hay chewie man... im lookin into doin a 1 shot speshull custom tri suit for racin in with some ktc props... at least one a the sites is askin for
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i spose you no what that means. do we got any thing like that with some sampels and what not i cood look to stick on the suit?
man any buddy else whats got the arts jeans in um is free to work up some ideas to.
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I'm curious if anyone has been screened for cancer.
A few years ago (OK, like 15 years ago) a dentist suggested that I get a cancer screening and I ignored him.
Now that I'm quit, and over 40 maybe I should. OK, definitely I should.
Just curious if anyone else has, and how it may have gone.
I went to my dentist today. He examined my cheek, gums, and tongue.
He said that overall, everything looked good. I have what he considered minor leukoplakia lesions.
He took pictures of them, and suggested I come back in a couple of weeks, and have him look again just to compare before and after - that is are they shrinking or growing. He said he suspects they will shrink, but he wants to make sure.
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whatever happened to capt. kirk? I always liked to read what he had to say.
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'bang head' I have been chewing for about 25 years, Copenhagen then the Grizzly. I have been on about 3 cans a day for the past 10 years. My 13 year old daughter has been ill and was hospitalized this week. 26 hours ago (which would allow me to post day 1 I think but I don't know where) I said "Honey, if you can fight, I can fight" and emptied it all into the trash. I found this site and thought you could help. The mental portion is there but god I don't know which one of us feels crappier right now I was throwing up this morning. I realize I may be in the upper tier of withdrawal symptoms here but any help you can give me would be great. Feel free to e-mail me, I am new to this site.
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'bang head' I have been chewing for about 25 years, Copenhagen then the Grizzly. I have been on about 3 cans a day for the past 10 years. My 13 year old daughter has been ill and was hospitalized this week. 26 hours ago (which would allow me to post day 1 I think but I don't know where) I said "Honey, if you can fight, I can fight" and emptied it all into the trash. I found this site and thought you could help. The mental portion is there but god I don't know which one of us feels crappier right now I was throwing up this morning. I realize I may be in the upper tier of withdrawal symptoms here but any help you can give me would be great. Feel free to e-mail me, I am new to this site.
Just Start reading and I will pray for you and your daughter. Get help here and wherever you can
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'bang head' I have been chewing for about 25 years, Copenhagen then the Grizzly. I have been on about 3 cans a day for the past 10 years. My 13 year old daughter has been ill and was hospitalized this week. 26 hours ago (which would allow me to post day 1 I think but I don't know where) I said "Honey, if you can fight, I can fight" and emptied it all into the trash. I found this site and thought you could help. The mental portion is there but god I don't know which one of us feels crappier right now I was throwing up this morning. I realize I may be in the upper tier of withdrawal symptoms here but any help you can give me would be great. Feel free to e-mail me, I am new to this site.
Just Start reading and I will pray for you and your daughter. Get help here and wherever you can
Get into the May 2016 group and stay strong by taking this one day at a time.
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One week out. Went from a tin of Kodiac a day for 4-5 years to using 4-6 mg of nicorette losenges the first few days. I feel like I need the nicotine less and less. I didn't need a losenge yesterday. I'm using nicks mint chew to fill the routine. At this point, the routine is the hardest thing to get over. Feels like I'm kind of cheating a little bit using the nicks and nicorette as a crutch. I'm ready to kick this stuff. I've had no desire to go get another tin yet. Plan is to stop the nicorette by the end of February. Maybe set a date to cut off the nicks after that. Anybody have any thoughts?
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One week out. Went from a tin of Kodiac a day for 4-5 years to using 4-6 mg of nicorette losenges the first few days. I feel like I need the nicotine less and less. I didn't need a losenge yesterday. I'm using nicks mint chew to fill the routine. At this point, the routine is the hardest thing to get over. Feels like I'm kind of cheating a little bit using the nicks and nicorette as a crutch. I'm ready to kick this stuff. I've had no desire to go get another tin yet. Plan is to stop the nicorette by the end of February. Maybe set a date to cut off the nicks after that. Anybody have any thoughts?
You need to get rid of nic altogether. When you allow the little bit in it leaves the door open for a relapse. I'm talking from experience. I tried the same method in the past. It is hard to quit. There's no way around it. Get on a roll. Make the promise not to use ANY form of nicotine each day and take it one day at a time.
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'bang head' I have been chewing for about 25 years, Copenhagen then the Grizzly. I have been on about 3 cans a day for the past 10 years. My 13 year old daughter has been ill and was hospitalized this week. 26 hours ago (which would allow me to post day 1 I think but I don't know where) I said "Honey, if you can fight, I can fight" and emptied it all into the trash. I found this site and thought you could help. The mental portion is there but god I don't know which one of us feels crappier right now I was throwing up this morning. I realize I may be in the upper tier of withdrawal symptoms here but any help you can give me would be great. Feel free to e-mail me, I am new to this site.
Just Start reading and I will pray for you and your daughter. Get help here and wherever you can
You have a whole community supporting you here. Sometimes it's tough love but it will keep you in check. Get on a roll call and attack each day with the promise not to use. I quit with you today. And your daughter is also in my prayers.
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Happy 2016 quitters!!!
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Happy 2016 quitters!!!
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So I had a realization today. Since quitting for the last 37 days my marriage has gotten better. There is more times of laughter and cuteness and flirting I guess. I think the time I was with my wife I've been hiding the fact that I was dipping and it made me self conscious. On top of that I think part of me was resenting the fact that I couldn't dip when I was at home since it was my secret. Yet another reason I am so happy to have quit this disgusting habit. Stay strong in the quit people. One day at a time.
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Into Day 2 of my quit. 30+ years of dipping Skoal. There have been a few tough moments so far, but hanging tough.
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Into Day 2 of my quit. 30+ years of dipping Skoal. There have been a few tough moments so far, but hanging tough.
Hang in there man.
To help with the oral fixation you could use coffee pouches, fake dip like Hooch or Smokey Mountain, or gum and or seeds.
I would read as much as you can possibly tolerate then read a bit more just because. Words of wisdom is great stuff as well as the hall of fame speeches.
Get involved in your quit group and join in on discussions in other groups. Don't be afraid to jump around and say hello. And I know it sounds stupid exchanging numbers with 100% complete strangers but it is all part of the process. I have forgot to post roll and my phone went nuts with folks genuinely caring about my well being and after I confirmed all was well with me and I was still quit, they mentioned I wasnt on roll for the day. Your fellow group members do care about you and your quit.
By the way, if no one has said by now, get plenty of exercise when the craves hit and drink LOADS of water.
Take care and stay quit brother. I quit with you ever damn day!!
Ray
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Thanks for the words of encouragement, Ray. I do have some Smokey Mountain coming in on Monday, had to order it online, the Wal-marts around me did not carry it. Been chewing the heck out of gum and drinking tons of water, no alcohol. Staying away from beer for awhile. I just think it will help in the long run.
I'm not sure I really understand the quit group, I think I found mine but wasn't quite sure how to post. There seemed to be a little drama, so I'll check back in later on.
I'll nose around the boards some more and see what I can find. I've already gotten so much good stuff, I truly believe I'll quite this time and finding this site has helped a ton already.
Thank you, again,
Mike
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Thanks for the words of encouragement, Ray. I do have some Smokey Mountain coming in on Monday, had to order it online, the Wal-marts around me did not carry it. Been chewing the heck out of gum and drinking tons of water, no alcohol. Staying away from beer for awhile. I just think it will help in the long run.
I'm not sure I really understand the quit group, I think I found mine but wasn't quite sure how to post. There seemed to be a little drama, so I'll check back in later on.
I'll nose around the boards some more and see what I can find. I've already gotten so much good stuff, I truly believe I'll quite this time and finding this site has helped a ton already.
Thank you, again,
Mike
About the drama. lol It happens. When you get a bunch of swinging dicks together in one place, there is bound to be some friction. I would ignore it and enjoy your quit. The sooner you get involved in a quit group the better off you will be. Once you are on the hook for accountability every day it puts things in to perspective.
Shoot me a PM or let me know if you need any help.
Stay quit man!!
Ray
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Man you got to love the KTC community, I think I would have gone crazy by now if this site was not in place. All you have to do is exchange some digits from other quitters who have experienced what you are going thru. It sure helps knowing that your not the only one that is out there struggling. The wife says she understands, and wants me off my phone and computer when I am having a hard time, but the Brotherhood has been there, done that and can ensure me that it is going to get better. I guess I just want to say, Thanks to all of those in the Brotherhood who are just digits away.
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Posted this in my group but it got hidden pretty quick with roll posts etc. Thanks!:
So I know most of us ignored weird crap that we shouldn't have while we were still dipping...anyone have this happen?:
My cheeks occasionally twitch/spasm. It seems to come in waves possibly or at least I don't notice it for awhile and then notice it a lot. It's happens up above my upper lip, kinda near the corners of my mouth but higher and a bit more to the inside of my face (most often the left side). I didn't store my dip in my upper lip FYI.
Thanks
Edit: This is happening now and before I quit (guessing it's been happening for a year or so)
Thanks again!
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Posted this in my group but it got hidden pretty quick with roll posts etc. Thanks!:
So I know most of us ignored weird crap that we shouldn't have while we were still dipping...anyone have this happen?:
My cheeks occasionally twitch/spasm. It seems to come in waves possibly or at least I don't notice it for awhile and then notice it a lot. It's happens up above my upper lip, kinda near the corners of my mouth but higher and a bit more to the inside of my face (most often the left side). I didn't store my dip in my upper lip FYI.
Thanks
Edit: This is happening now and before I quit (guessing it's been happening for a year or so)
Thanks again!
Yes, that was happening to be before I quit, and still did maybe a week or so into quit, but I haven't noticed it happening lately.
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'bang head' I have been chewing for about 25 years, Copenhagen then the Grizzly. I have been on about 3 cans a day for the past 10 years. My 13 year old daughter has been ill and was hospitalized this week. 26 hours ago (which would allow me to post day 1 I think but I don't know where) I said "Honey, if you can fight, I can fight" and emptied it all into the trash. I found this site and thought you could help. The mental portion is there but god I don't know which one of us feels crappier right now I was throwing up this morning. I realize I may be in the upper tier of withdrawal symptoms here but any help you can give me would be great. Feel free to e-mail me, I am new to this site.
Just Start reading and I will pray for you and your daughter. Get help here and wherever you can
You have a whole community supporting you here. Sometimes it's tough love but it will keep you in check. Get on a roll call and attack each day with the promise not to use. I quit with you today. And your daughter is also in my prayers.
and "poof" here and gone in one day.
read your email and your PM next time you are on here.
You were in live chat, gave some promises.
Only good promises are those you keep bro.
You're gonna have to want this bad for yourself , when you do, come back and post roll every day.
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On Day 4 and just found this site. 10 years of a-can-a-day and ready to stay quit. Glad to know I'm not the only one losing sleep and living in a general state of anxiety. I guess I need to find the May or June 2016 Quit Group? I'm really glad I found this site.
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Chewed for 24 years
Quit for 8 years
Thank you KTC!
visa
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Chewed for 24 years
Quit for 8 years
Thank you KTC!
visa
This ^^^^ is AWESOME! Congrats Tom!
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Chewed for 24 years
Quit for 8 years
Thank you KTC!
visa
This ^^^^ is AWESOME! Congrats Tom!
BRAVO!!! Well done my man!
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Started dipping Copenhagen snuff when I was 19. Have been doing between 4 to 10 cans a week since. I would pretty much have a dip in from the time I woke up, till the time I went to bed at night. I turn 46 next month and have now been 10 days without a dip. I had tried quitting more times than I can count, but never made is past a couple days.
This time, I will beat it. NO MORE DIP FOR ME!!!
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Started dipping Copenhagen snuff when I was 19. Have been doing between 4 to 10 cans a week since. I would pretty much have a dip in from the time I woke up, till the time I went to bed at night. I turn 46 next month and have now been 10 days without a dip. I had tried quitting more times than I can count, but never made is past a couple days.
This time, I will beat it. NO MORE DIP FOR ME!!!
Well done! Congrats on a great decision. You're in the right place!
Let us know how we can help.
Chewie
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Started dipping Copenhagen snuff when I was 19. Have been doing between 4 to 10 cans a week since. I would pretty much have a dip in from the time I woke up, till the time I went to bed at night. I turn 46 next month and have now been 10 days without a dip. I had tried quitting more times than I can count, but never made is past a couple days.
This time, I will beat it. NO MORE DIP FOR ME!!!
Well done! Congrats on a great decision. You're in the right place!
Let us know how we can help.
Chewie
We can help; but you need to get on roll and read up.
This can be you last and only quit if you want. Find your quit group and post roll!
Idaho Spuds
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Started dipping Copenhagen snuff when I was 19. Have been doing between 4 to 10 cans a week since. I would pretty much have a dip in from the time I woke up, till the time I went to bed at night. I turn 46 next month and have now been 10 days without a dip. I had tried quitting more times than I can count, but never made is past a couple days.
This time, I will beat it. NO MORE DIP FOR ME!!!
Well done! Congrats on a great decision. You're in the right place!
Let us know how we can help.
Chewie
We can help; but you need to get on roll and read up.
This can be you last and only quit if you want. Find your quit group and post roll!
Idaho Spuds
RNGLock - You would be in the May 2016 quit group given your quit date. Click here: topic/11505241/448/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11505241/448/)
Go to the latest page and find the latest roll post. Get on there and post up your promise to quit and number of days quit. If you have a question, just post it in that group, tell them you're new to the group and they will take care of you from there.
Glad to be quit with you. Welcome to freedom!
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I quit December 30tj 2015, been reading things on this site on and off ever since. 13 year user and after chewing a can in a day on December 29th I threw all my "emergency" tins out. I've quit
Before but never for me, til now. I always called it 'my little buddy'. After having a few dental
Issues I finally got mad Enough and quit. That's the only way I could quit was to get mad. I never knew what I was going through before I quit and after I quit was because of that bitch i used to call my little buddy. I struggle, prolly more than I don't. But I'm still doing it. Not sure what day I'm on, doesn't matter cause I'm done. Thanks for the help I've gotten from this site though I was behind the scene til now
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I just got through my first 24 hours last night. I always saw myself as a "mind over matter" type guy. Anything less than that is a weakness. I am finding out that I am not so tough after all. Hanging in there however with the weird side-effects (i.e. racing heart, being drifty, hunger pangs). In a perverse way it's almost educational to me. I quit smoking in 1975 and switched over to the can. I am now 65 and was doing a can every two and a half days until my quit. I have heard people talk about the similarities of heroin and nicotine. I can't respond to the former, but I know like with any drug of choice, it knows no socio-economic or education boundaries. I really don't know if I can win this battle. Nobody suggested that I quit, nor was I having any health problems that forced the issue. It was just something I needed to do if for nothing else, for me. I might make it and if I falter I will try-try again. As one of my mentors told me, "Anything worth having is worth working hard for to obtain." You can apply that to just about anything - even addiction. Those of us who are in the struggle, I wish good fortune to one and all. We need to keep our minds busy and know that there are those who have come before us. Although we may all be strangers miles apart, we are a kindred spirit. God speed.
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I just got through my first 24 hours last night. I always saw myself as a "mind over matter" type guy. Anything less than that is a weakness. I am finding out that I am not so tough after all. Hanging in there however with the weird side-effects (i.e. racing heart, being drifty, hunger pangs). In a perverse way it's almost educational to me. I quit smoking in 1975 and switched over to the can. I am now 65 and was doing a can every two and a half days until my quit. I have heard people talk about the similarities of heroin and nicotine. I can't respond to the former, but I know like with any drug of choice, it knows no socio-economic or education boundaries. I really don't know if I can win this battle. Nobody suggested that I quit, nor was I having any health problems that forced the issue. It was just something I needed to do if for nothing else, for me. I might make it and if I falter I will try-try again. As one of my mentors told me, "Anything worth having is worth working hard for to obtain." You can apply that to just about anything - even addiction. Those of us who are in the struggle, I wish good fortune to one and all. We need to keep our minds busy and know that there are those who have come before us. Although we may all be strangers miles apart, we are a kindred spirit. God speed.
Welcome to the site Mister Bill and congratulations on your quit.
You CAN win this battle! Many of us were users for multiple decades and have killed the can for good. You can too.
Read up on everything you can on this site. Post roll making your promise every day. Rinse and repeat.
The initial phase of quitting sucks . . . . dying of cancer sucks a whole lot worse.
If you need anything, just shout.
Keddy
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I just realized I have been shitting without a dip in.......I didn't think that was possible
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Hello. New to the website and forum. Stopping tomorrow 2/27/216. Thank you for this site.
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Nobody suggested that I quit, nor was I having any health problems that forced the issue. It was just something I needed to do if for nothing else, for me. I might make it and if I falter I will try-try again.
I'm with you, and 10 years behind you, on this.
I'm not here because I'm worried about getting cancer. I'm old enough that I'm looking at death approaching from the horizon. I've lived a good life, and if I die tomorrow, I have no complaints.
I'm here because I want to feel better today than I did yesterday. (Right now, today, that's not happening. lol - gotta get through this withdrawal first.) What better way (to feel better today) than to make a daily pledge not to put nicotine in my body?
Join the June 2016 roll group Bill. Let's have some fun with this.
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Stopping tomorrow 2/27/216. Thank you for this site.
Welcome. Just curious, how many times have you done this "stop tomorrow"? (I've probably done it 38-40 times.)
I was on this site yesterday, and thought I'd "stop tomorrow" and join the site. Then I read someone's post that convinced me that if I'm going to stop, then stop. Don't talk.
So, I tossed my can that I purchased 30 minutes earlier, and posted on the roll. I got home and tossed my other can.
Good luck man. Stop now and join me in the June 2016 HOF class.
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Hello. New to the website and forum. Stopping tomorrow 2/27/216. Thank you for this site.
Stop now because usually tomorrow is years away
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There is no better time than today. If you are planning a quit, plan it for today, not tomorrow. When tomorrow gets here normally ones mind is changed and the planned quit fails.
You are MORE THAN WELCOME to join in on the fight today. The only cost of admission to the site is to post your daily roll (Pledge) to not use nicotine today. No patches, no gum, lozenges or any nic replacement.
Come on in folks! The kool aid is great!
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Nobody suggested that I quit, nor was I having any health problems that forced the issue. It was just something I needed to do if for nothing else, for me. I might make it and if I falter I will try-try again.
I'm with you, and 10 years behind you, on this.
I'm not here because I'm worried about getting cancer. I'm old enough that I'm looking at death approaching from the horizon. I've lived a good life, and if I die tomorrow, I have no complaints.
I'm here because I want to feel better today than I did yesterday. (Right now, today, that's not happening. lol - gotta get through this withdrawal first.) What better way (to feel better today) than to make a daily pledge not to put nicotine in my body?
Join the June 2016 roll group Bill. Let's have some fun with this.
That's awesome guys. Actually inspriational to hear that someone would quit without health being a major factor but just to shed a horrible addiction. After 32 years myself it's almost like getting a chance to live a 2nd life so I'm excited about it 7 days in. Let's do this.
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I just realized I have been shitting without a dip in.......I didn't think that was possible
Yep that seemed like a must-have but I don't even think about it once I hit the seat now. After just 7 days.
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Nobody suggested that I quit, nor was I having any health problems that forced the issue. It was just something I needed to do if for nothing else, for me. I might make it and if I falter I will try-try again.
I'm with you, and 10 years behind you, on this.
I'm not here because I'm worried about getting cancer. I'm old enough that I'm looking at death approaching from the horizon. I've lived a good life, and if I die tomorrow, I have no complaints.
I'm here because I want to feel better today than I did yesterday. (Right now, today, that's not happening. lol - gotta get through this withdrawal first.) What better way (to feel better today) than to make a daily pledge not to put nicotine in my body?
Join the June 2016 roll group Bill. Let's have some fun with this.
That's awesome guys. Actually inspriational to hear that someone would quit without health being a major factor but just to shed a horrible addiction. After 32 years myself it's almost like getting a chance to live a 2nd life so I'm excited about it 7 days in. Let's do this.
Thanks AWOL. I'd love to have you in my "class" of June 2016, but you are a month ahead of me. I quit with you today though.
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Hello. New to the website and forum. Stopping tomorrow 2/27/216. Thank you for this site.
Tomorrow is today...
waiting*
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Nobody suggested that I quit, nor was I having any health problems that forced the issue. It was just something I needed to do if for nothing else, for me. I might make it and if I falter I will try-try again.
I'm with you, and 10 years behind you, on this.
I'm not here because I'm worried about getting cancer. I'm old enough that I'm looking at death approaching from the horizon. I've lived a good life, and if I die tomorrow, I have no complaints.
I'm here because I want to feel better today than I did yesterday. (Right now, today, that's not happening. lol - gotta get through this withdrawal first.) What better way (to feel better today) than to make a daily pledge not to put nicotine in my body?
Join the June 2016 roll group Bill. Let's have some fun with this.
That's awesome guys. Actually inspriational to hear that someone would quit without health being a major factor but just to shed a horrible addiction. After 32 years myself it's almost like getting a chance to live a 2nd life so I'm excited about it 7 days in. Let's do this.
Thanks AWOL. I'd love to have you in my "class" of June 2016, but you are a month ahead of me. I quit with you today though.
We'll still slay the beast together. I know it will be up and down but day 8 is feeling great. Maybe cuz it's a weekend but I sure feel like I'm moving on from it more quickly than I thought I could.
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i have noticed that at this early point in my quit it is equal 50% good and 50% bad......its simply a matter of which one you want to focus on.....if you focus on the 50% bad then it will be bad 100% of the time.....but if you focus on the 50% good ( any little good feeling or thought that enters your mind or body...grab on to it and focus on it) it won't feel 100% good all the time but it will be close......sometimes its as simple as picturing one of my daughters smiling at me because I don't put that "yucky stuff" in my mouth anymore, those little thoughts help me out a lot
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Well, I have finally decided to get help. I started out on Copenhagen straight then went to Grizzly wintergreen long cut, then I decided that pouches were the way to go because it forced me to use less, but I just found that I was doubling up the pouches. I then told myself that I was not addicted because I only consumed about a can every 2 to 3 days. I put the cans away and could last about a week then fell right back into it. I have always told myself that I could quit on my own, but after the past 11 years, I have finally realized that I am lying to myself. I did some research and found KTC and decided to take the plunge with the rest of the bad ass quitters here. I just bought some seeds and am waiting on my smokey mountain cans to come in the mail to help me with the habit of having something there. Any pointers are much appreciated.
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Well, I have finally decided to get help. I started out on Copenhagen straight then went to Grizzly wintergreen long cut, then I decided that pouches were the way to go because it forced me to use less, but I just found that I was doubling up the pouches. I then told myself that I was not addicted because I only consumed about a can every 2 to 3 days. I put the cans away and could last about a week then fell right back into it. I have always told myself that I could quit on my own, but after the past 11 years, I have finally realized that I am lying to myself. I did some research and found KTC and decided to take the plunge with the rest of the bad ass quitters here. I just bought some seeds and am waiting on my smokey mountain cans to come in the mail to help me with the habit of having something there. Any pointers are much appreciated.
post roll every day...it is a promise that you won't use nicotine for that day....read as many of the stories as possible, there is a lot of help on this site in the form of those stories all you have to do is read them any time you get a craving...look at the cancer pics those things are hardcore....and whenever you need help just ask
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Any pointers are much appreciated.
From one fellow newbie to the next, here are a few pointers:- Don't do this unless you are ready. You know you are ready when you stop waiting, throw your shite away, and post a commitment on your roll.
- You don't have to quit forever. Just quit for today. You can make it through the next 24 hours.
- Tomorrow is another day. You have to quit again. Don't worry, you can do it. It's only for a day.
- As you go through the nicotine withdrawal, you'll get irritated. Come to this site and tell us how bad we are and what jerks we are. We can take it. We've been there.
Those are some off the top of my head. Join me in the June 2016 group and we'll quit together (along with everyone else here).
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Any pointers are much appreciated.
From one fellow newbie to the next, here are a few pointers:- Don't do this unless you are ready. You know you are ready when you stop waiting, throw your shite away, and post a commitment on your roll.
- You don't have to quit forever. Just quit for today. You can make it through the next 24 hours.
- Tomorrow is another day. You have to quit again. Don't worry, you can do it. It's only for a day.
- As you go through the nicotine withdrawal, you'll get irritated. Come to this site and tell us how bad we are and what jerks we are. We can take it. We've been there.
Those are some off the top of my head. Join me in the June 2016 group and we'll quit together (along with everyone else here).
I've got nothing to add... wildirish has laid it out perfectly. Dude "gets it"
Welcome aboard!
chewie
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I have set a quit date March 6 in 7 days. It is time to quit. I am starting the taper tomorrow. I have quit for a hundred days before the the shite nabbed me back. Every day is a quit day I forgot that. Am going to look for support here during my quit. Thanks for this site.
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I have set a quit date March 6 in 7 days. It is time to quit. I am starting the taper tomorrow. I have quit for a hundred days before the the shite nabbed me back. Every day is a quit day I forgot that. Am going to look for support here during my quit. Thanks for this site.
Great decision bro!
May I suggest you do it today? Just dump that nasty shit in the toilet, post roll in June group and ask for help with the craving and embrace the suck!
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Some sad news to report today...
Rest In Peace Lee ‘Hawk’ Reherman
http://blog.killthecan.org/2016/03/rest ... -reherman/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2016/03/rest-in-peace-lee-hawk-reherman/)
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Just a couple things that have helped me stay the course over the last few weeks...more or less self-instruction. It helps for me to type them out hopefully will help someone else in the process.
Give each temptation some credit, don't just brush it off. We all have our triggers (driving to work, ball game, toilet time, poker night, all of the above more) that really make us want to dip. When these events happen, acknowledge them take a moment to remind yourself why it's so important to stay quit. Don't be so arrogant as to pat them on the head like a little brother tell them to run along. If you had a little brother like mine, you know they have a way of striking right when you get comfortable.
After you KTC, at some point (likely many points) you'll have to kill the thought that you can have a cheat dip; that one cheat dip won't undo all your hard work. Maybe you're a unicorn and can have 3 dips a year and never think about it otherwise. If so, congrats, I hate you I can't relate. For the rest of us, the cheat dip is just a little bread crumb the nic bitch left behind when we kicked her out. Remind yourself it will absolutely NOT be as great as you think. You'll expect a big euphoric reunion when seeing this "old friend" again, but it never works that way. You just feel guilty, stupid childish. And if this is your first attempt at quitting, just trust me on this, I have an perfect cheat-dipping record. Something like 0-fer-fifty.
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Shout out to Nolaq! (https://youtu.be/GIVOstzKRUY)
Don't forget about the experience that made him who he is today! (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=1284935&t=1006508)
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Some sad news to report today...
Rest In Peace Lee ‘Hawk’ Reherman
http://blog.killthecan.org/2016/03/rest ... -reherman/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2016/03/rest-in-peace-lee-hawk-reherman/)
RIP Lee.
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Coping skills. My absolute biggest weekness is women. Hands down. No questions asked. Bat those eye lids, sweeten that voice up like honey. I am mush. Any suggestions? Especially if they have a dip in. GEEZ! That was the queen I wanted! A Copenhagen Angel as it were.
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Coping skills. My absolute biggest weekness is women. Hands down. No questions asked. Bat those eye lids, sweeten that voice up like honey. I am mush. Any suggestions? Especially if they have a dip in. GEEZ! That was the queen I wanted! A Copenhagen Angel as it were.
Hmm... I don't have any personal experience with this one as I never really hung with the female dippin crowd.
That said... if women who dip are your issue, might I suggest going somewhere where the women DON'T dip? I don't recall ever seeing a stripper with a dip in. Just saying. ;)
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pretty powerful message here...
Randall - The Face of Cancer
http://www.killthecan.org/randall-the-face-of-cancer/ (http://www.killthecan.org/randall-the-face-of-cancer/)
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Hey all,
Ex baseball player going on 8 years of a can a day. My quit starts now.. I have quit on and off for no more than a few weeks straight in the past few years. I apologize in advance for my ranting during the next few days,
Cheers
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Been trying to quit on and off for the past 6 months. Tried a lot of alternatives but nothing helps. Also don't want to replace this habit with another dangerous one. Not much of a talker but I am hoping other people going through the same struggle gives me the extra motivation to realize I am not alone and this is a battle is one I can win
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Been trying to quit on and off for the past 6 months. Tried a lot of alternatives but nothing helps. Also don't want to replace this habit with another dangerous one. Not much of a talker but I am hoping other people going through the same struggle gives me the extra motivation to realize I am not alone and this is a battle is one I can win
Fake isn't dangerous, that is just the chew/nicotine trying to convince you not to quit.
Here is a good resource:
http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/smo ... ernatives/ (http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/smokeless-alternatives/)
But while that is good, you have to want it and while you have tried to 'quit' in the past you have failed.
Join KTC and post roll everyday, this is the difference it is the difference of doing and trying...
See you around,
Idaho Spuds 568
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Hey all,
Ex baseball player going on 8 years of a can a day. My quit starts now.. I have quit on and off for no more than a few weeks straight in the past few years. I apologize in advance for my ranting during the next few days,
Cheers
No need to apologize, we understand here, take out your frustration and angry here on KTC instead of your family...
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Coping skills. My absolute biggest weekness is women. Hands down. No questions asked. Bat those eye lids, sweeten that voice up like honey. I am mush. Any suggestions? Especially if they have a dip in. GEEZ! That was the queen I wanted! A Copenhagen Angel as it were.
Hmm... I don't have any personal experience with this one as I never really hung with the female dippin crowd.
That said... if women who dip are your issue, might I suggest going somewhere where the women DON'T dip? I don't recall ever seeing a stripper with a dip in. Just saying. ;)
They are a rare breed indeed. I just know that is the ultimate combo for me. And, as for everything in life. We can't hide from everything. We wille eventually have to face the fear. Gas Stations, grocery stores that carry snuff, the adverts, numerous things. For some, a gatoraide bottle could be a trigger and sometimes you can't turn the bottle down especially working outside in Oklahoma in the Summer. I guess what I am really asking. Is there someway or place we have to post discussions like this? Things we need to know?
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Coping skills. My absolute biggest weekness is women. Hands down. No questions asked. Bat those eye lids, sweeten that voice up like honey. I am mush. Any suggestions? Especially if they have a dip in. GEEZ! That was the queen I wanted! A Copenhagen Angel as it were.
Hmm... I don't have any personal experience with this one as I never really hung with the female dippin crowd.
That said... if women who dip are your issue, might I suggest going somewhere where the women DON'T dip? I don't recall ever seeing a stripper with a dip in. Just saying. ;)
They are a rare breed indeed. I just know that is the ultimate combo for me. And, as for everything in life. We can't hide from everything. We wille eventually have to face the fear. Gas Stations, grocery stores that carry snuff, the adverts, numerous things. For some, a gatoraide bottle could be a trigger and sometimes you can't turn the bottle down especially working outside in Oklahoma in the Summer. I guess what I am really asking. Is there someway or place we have to post discussions like this? Things we need to know?
Yes, on the message boards for your quit group. Have you been posting roll every damn day?
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Coping skills. My absolute biggest weekness is women. Hands down. No questions asked. Bat those eye lids, sweeten that voice up like honey. I am mush. Any suggestions? Especially if they have a dip in. GEEZ! That was the queen I wanted! A Copenhagen Angel as it were.
Hmm... I don't have any personal experience with this one as I never really hung with the female dippin crowd.
That said... if women who dip are your issue, might I suggest going somewhere where the women DON'T dip? I don't recall ever seeing a stripper with a dip in. Just saying. ;)
They are a rare breed indeed. I just know that is the ultimate combo for me. And, as for everything in life. We can't hide from everything. We wille eventually have to face the fear. Gas Stations, grocery stores that carry snuff, the adverts, numerous things. For some, a gatoraide bottle could be a trigger and sometimes you can't turn the bottle down especially working outside in Oklahoma in the Summer. I guess what I am really asking. Is there someway or place we have to post discussions like this? Things we need to know?
Yes, on the message boards for your quit group. Have you been posting roll every damn day?
Yes, I have. I would think a centralized location would be more efficient rather than in the quit group between rolls and other things that happen. keep it clear of clutter like it should be.
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Well... Day one. Been dipping for about 5 years now, never had any luck with quitting. I have tried multiple times but could never get over that hump. I big trigger of mine is just driving in the car. Gum seems to help a little bit. Any suggestions would be wonderful, I want this damn habit to be kicked!! Seeing this website helps, knowing there are so many others like me out there.
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Coping skills. My absolute biggest weekness is women. Hands down. No questions asked. Bat those eye lids, sweeten that voice up like honey. I am mush. Any suggestions? Especially if they have a dip in. GEEZ! That was the queen I wanted! A Copenhagen Angel as it were.
Hmm... I don't have any personal experience with this one as I never really hung with the female dippin crowd.
That said... if women who dip are your issue, might I suggest going somewhere where the women DON'T dip? I don't recall ever seeing a stripper with a dip in. Just saying. ;)
They are a rare breed indeed. I just know that is the ultimate combo for me. And, as for everything in life. We can't hide from everything. We wille eventually have to face the fear. Gas Stations, grocery stores that carry snuff, the adverts, numerous things. For some, a gatoraide bottle could be a trigger and sometimes you can't turn the bottle down especially working outside in Oklahoma in the Summer. I guess what I am really asking. Is there someway or place we have to post discussions like this? Things we need to know?
Yes, on the message boards for your quit group. Have you been posting roll every damn day?
Yes, I have. I would think a centralized location would be more efficient rather than in the quit group between rolls and other things that happen. keep it clear of clutter like it should be.
Actually, if you don't to discuss it within your group, then you're in perfect place.
Other possible areas may be within your personal introduction thread within the Introductions area forum/55574/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/55574/) or if there is an appropriate topic within the Wildcard section: forum/55599/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/55599/)
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Well... Day one. Been dipping for about 5 years now, never had any luck with quitting. I have tried multiple times but could never get over that hump. I big trigger of mine is just driving in the car. Gum seems to help a little bit. Any suggestions would be wonderful, I want this damn habit to be kicked!! Seeing this website helps, knowing there are so many others like me out there.
Glad you are here. I don't know if anyone has told you. Post roll everyday. I believe you will be in the same group as I am "Pre HOF June......" As far as a coping skill for you and driving. What ever works is the best answer, though vague it may be. For when I am craving something in my lip I go for Bacc Off or Smoky Mountain. Non nicotene. Just there to take care of the oral fixation. be prepared for day 3 (or there abouts) withdrawals might kick you hard. Drink plenty of Gator/Power aide and water. Keep Aspirin, Ibuprofen, Aleve, Tylenol nearby. Might also get some eye drops. My eyes gummed up. Not trying to scare you. Telling you so you can be aware and not use it as an excuse to use.
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I'm on day 30 of my quit. I've noticed I'm getting some anxiety and dizziness. Foggy sort of. Is that normal for around 30 days? I feel funny then I feel funny. It comes and goes. Why would it make me dizzy?
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Hey there....I quit cold turkey this past New Year but I have started back this past week. Been using for 14 years prior...really just looking for some helpful hints/tips. I was fine until things got stressful at work and I broke down this past Monday. The daily urge is now incredibly strong. I honestly thought I had it beat but obviously not.....thanks in advance.
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I'm on day 30 of my quit. I've noticed I'm getting some anxiety and dizziness. Foggy sort of. Is that normal for around 30 days? I feel funny then I feel funny. It comes and goes. Why would it make me dizzy?
All the feelings are natural. You have been a member since Jan and haven't posted roll yet, Get over to your May group and start posting roll,exchange some digits also go to the introductions section here, you will get introduce yourself better.
Start posting and make that promos to keep that garbage out of your mouth.
I quit with you today.
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Hey there....I quit cold turkey this past New Year but I have started back this past week. Been using for 14 years prior...really just looking for some helpful hints/tips. I was fine until things got stressful at work and I broke down this past Monday. The daily urge is now incredibly strong. I honestly thought I had it beat but obviously not.....thanks in advance.
join the june quit group and post roll everyday
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Hey there....I quit cold turkey this past New Year but I have started back this past week. Been using for 14 years prior...really just looking for some helpful hints/tips. I was fine until things got stressful at work and I broke down this past Monday. The daily urge is now incredibly strong. I honestly thought I had it beat but obviously not.....thanks in advance.
join the june quit group and post roll everyday
Yeah, it sounds like you did well on your own but you lacked accountability, support and routine. ^^^ join up
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I'm on day 30 of my quit. I've noticed I'm getting some anxiety and dizziness. Foggy sort of. Is that normal for around 30 days? I feel funny then I feel funny. It comes and goes. Why would it make me dizzy?
All the feelings are natural. You have been a member since Jan and haven't posted roll yet, Get over to your May group and start posting roll,exchange some digits also go to the introductions section here, you will get introduce yourself better.
Start posting and make that promos to keep that garbage out of your mouth.
I quit with you today.
How do I find my group? Use the search?
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I'm on day 30 of my quit. I've noticed I'm getting some anxiety and dizziness. Foggy sort of. Is that normal for around 30 days? I feel funny then I feel funny. It comes and goes. Why would it make me dizzy?
All the feelings are natural. You have been a member since Jan and haven't posted roll yet, Get over to your May group and start posting roll,exchange some digits also go to the introductions section here, you will get introduce yourself better.
Start posting and make that promos to keep that garbage out of your mouth.
I quit with you today.
How do I find my group? Use the search?
To find your quit group, go to the quit group page, then look for the date ranges of the pre-HOF groups. A Jan 30 quit date puts you in the May 2016 group. Say hello, post roll, get your quit on.
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After 5 years, I'm on day 74, I keep getting panic attacks and anxiety in class. I can't focus for more than 10 minutes on anything anymore. Almost cracked, then I realized I'd be letting my friends, family, and most importantly myself down. I just keep thinking about how sad it is that I let such a stupid thing have such an enormous hold on my life. I'm going to keep fighting the good fight, but its getting harder when my grades are starting to tank.
Just waiting for my triple digit day.
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After 5 years, I'm on day 74, I keep getting panic attacks and anxiety in class. I can't focus for more than 10 minutes on anything anymore. Almost cracked, then I realized I'd be letting my friends, family, and most importantly myself down. I just keep thinking about how sad it is that I let such a stupid thing have such an enormous hold on my life. I'm going to keep fighting the good fight, but its getting harder when my grades are starting to tank.
Just waiting for my triple digit day.
Hang in there my man... know that things get better.
That being said, don't think that you'll be "cured" at 100 days or all your ills will suddenly go away. Day 100 is a milestone, and a huge one at that, but it's not the end of the road.
Don't worry about "forever". Take it day by day and before you know it you'll look back and have hundreds and thousands of day under your belt. I know that seems far off now but it's the truth.
Quit today. Repeat tomorrow. It's that simple.
Chewie
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After 5 years, I'm on day 74, I keep getting panic attacks and anxiety in class. I can't focus for more than 10 minutes on anything anymore. Almost cracked, then I realized I'd be letting my friends, family, and most importantly myself down. I just keep thinking about how sad it is that I let such a stupid thing have such an enormous hold on my life. I'm going to keep fighting the good fight, but its getting harder when my grades are starting to tank.
Just waiting for my triple digit day.
Hang in there my man... know that things get better.
That being said, don't think that you'll be "cured" at 100 days or all your ills will suddenly go away. Day 100 is a milestone, and a huge one at that, but it's not the end of the road.
Don't worry about "forever". Take it day by day and before you know it you'll look back and have hundreds and thousands of day under your belt. I know that seems far off now but it's the truth.
Quit today. Repeat tomorrow. It's that simple.
Chewie
As Sensei Chewie said, take it one day at a time (ODAAT) triple digits are just a starting point. I am at 212 and the Nic Bitch hits me up every day telling me to take that dip. She has been driving me crazy since the weather has been nice. Don't listen to her, she will tell you it will help you do everything better, she is a liar!
The face stuff helps, but we know its not like the original, and it should not be because we quit that garbage.
I quit with you today.
My name is Rob and I'm an addict.
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Six years ago today, I put the can down. Thank you KTC! I could not have done it without all of YOU!
Today, I found this article. http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-ne ... ts-n538296 (http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/quitting-smoking-abruptly-has-best-long-term-results-n538296)
Relevant.
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I'm on day 30 of my quit. I've noticed I'm getting some anxiety and dizziness. Foggy sort of. Is that normal for around 30 days? I feel funny then I feel funny. It comes and goes. Why would it make me dizzy?
All the feelings are natural. You have been a member since Jan and haven't posted roll yet, Get over to your May group and start posting roll,exchange some digits also go to the introductions section here, you will get introduce yourself better.
Start posting and make that promos to keep that garbage out of your mouth.
I quit with you today.
How do I find my group? Use the search?
To find your quit group, go to the quit group page, then look for the date ranges of the pre-HOF groups. A Jan 30 quit date puts you in the May 2016 group. Say hello, post roll, get your quit on.
Come on in to the May group we will help any way we can to stay quit.
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I'm on day 30 of my quit. I've noticed I'm getting some anxiety and dizziness. Foggy sort of. Is that normal for around 30 days? I feel funny then I feel funny. It comes and goes. Why would it make me dizzy?
All the feelings are natural. You have been a member since Jan and haven't posted roll yet, Get over to your May group and start posting roll,exchange some digits also go to the introductions section here, you will get introduce yourself better.
Start posting and make that promos to keep that garbage out of your mouth.
I quit with you today.
How do I find my group? Use the search?
To find your quit group, go to the quit group page, then look for the date ranges of the pre-HOF groups. A Jan 30 quit date puts you in the May 2016 group. Say hello, post roll, get your quit on.
Come on in to the May group we will help any way we can to stay quit.
i am in the May group and I see you have had second thoughts or broke your comp. in a nicotine withdrawal rage
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For everyone's information, KTC LIVE CHAT is currently down. Users attempting to access LIVE CHAT will be directed to the KTC GroupME for the next few days until the chat issue can be resolved.
Thanks.
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For everyone's information, KTC LIVE CHAT is currently down. Users attempting to access LIVE CHAT will be directed to the KTC GroupME for the next few days until the chat issue can be resolved.
Thanks.
You may need to clear your cache or hit CNRTL + F5 in order to get to the GroupMe chat.
If this doesn't work: http://chat.killthecan.org/ (http://chat.killthecan.org/)
Here's the direct link: https://groupme.com/join_group/20090923/6nllQ5 (https://groupme.com/join_group/20090923/6nllQ5)
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Today is my 40th day quit. I couldn't be more surprised at how quickly I'm transitioning right now. I dipped 15 years, a can a day or more, and now I don't even crave it. For the first 10 days or so I was using Smokey Mountain herbal snuff, but I don't even feel the need for that any more. I've tried quitting more times than I can count, but this time is different. When I drive, after I eat, if I get angry or stressed - those cravings are quickly going away and I can't explain why. I still have an oral fixation which I use Grinds coffee pouches or a Werther's Originial to take care of. But that's becoming less and less prevalent as well. Is this what progress feels like?
B)B
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I'm curious if anyone has been screened for cancer.
A few years ago (OK, like 15 years ago) a dentist suggested that I get a cancer screening and I ignored him.
Now that I'm quit, and over 40 maybe I should. OK, definitely I should.
Just curious if anyone else has, and how it may have gone.
Good topic! Your dentist should be performing a cancer screening during your bi-annual visit. They should use a light, look under your tongue and around your mouth. I blatantly ask them to give me a good look over, they should also feel your neck and jaw.
I also ask my doctor and he checks as well.
Lastly, if you really want to be reassured, go see an oral surgeon, they will check you out as well.
Be open in your quit, tell them and be proud of your days. I am pumped to tell my dentist that I am 543 days free.
Idaho Spuds 543
I have my dentist give me the cancer check every time I visit him (twice a year).
He looks under my tongue, way back in my throat, gums, etc. Even after nearly 10 years quit it's a beautiful thing to hear "all clear".
Chewie
I need to make an appointment but I'm scared of what I'd hear LOL. I'm such a wienus.
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My husband is going to quit, he set his quit day for April 2, 2016. I'm beyond excited to support him through his quit. What helped you quit? Should I leave him be? Hang out with him? I'm so so excited.
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My husband is going to quit, he set his quit day for April 2, 2016. I'm beyond excited to support him through his quit. What helped you quit? Should I leave him be? Hang out with him? I'm so so excited.
I can't attest for everyone's quit but mine the first 3 days were hell. I wanted a dip more than anything, I was just angry because I felt terrible. I couldn't focus on anything just like everyone else describes it as "the fog". Day 2 was so bad I had to leave work about 2 hours early, I ended up spending the rest of the day in my room with the windows blacked out to ease my migraine (something I've never had before). After day 3 it let up a great deal, I only had the fog and constant thoughts of dipping but the cravings at that point had subsided to where they were just nagging rather than desperately wanting one. As for advice I'd say gum/altoids/hard candy things of that nature help, water, water, water and MORE water, mix in some dark juice (cranberry, pomegranate, etc) as to no wash out (I feel like I'm low on electrolytes from so much water at times) due to so much water. And a key thing for me was basic home foods, I went out to eat on day 6, had a big meal and spend the rest of the night with the worst cravings I'd ever had even before I quit. And finally just either avoid anything that may cause triggers (events that will make him want to dip) for me mine were stress, work (couldn't get around that one), home projects, etc.
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My husband is going to quit, he set his quit day for April 2, 2016. I'm beyond excited to support him through his quit. What helped you quit? Should I leave him be? Hang out with him? I'm so so excited.
I can't attest for everyone's quit but mine the first 3 days were hell. I wanted a dip more than anything, I was just angry because I felt terrible. I couldn't focus on anything just like everyone else describes it as "the fog". Day 2 was so bad I had to leave work about 2 hours early, I ended up spending the rest of the day in my room with the windows blacked out to ease my migraine (something I've never had before). After day 3 it let up a great deal, I only had the fog and constant thoughts of dipping but the cravings at that point had subsided to where they were just nagging rather than desperately wanting one. As for advice I'd say gum/altoids/hard candy things of that nature help, water, water, water and MORE water, mix in some dark juice (cranberry, pomegranate, etc) as to no wash out (I feel like I'm low on electrolytes from so much water at times) due to so much water. And a key thing for me was basic home foods, I went out to eat on day 6, had a big meal and spend the rest of the night with the worst cravings I'd ever had even before I quit. And finally just either avoid anything that may cause triggers (events that will make him want to dip) for me mine were stress, work (couldn't get around that one), home projects, etc.
I think that pretty much sums up my experience as well Swilderbeast. The physical symptoms passed soon enough for me but I drank a ton of water from past experience. That helps with flushing the nicotine out and the headaches. Gum, hard candies and seeds helped a little bit, but the craving saver for me has been the fake dip (Smokey Mountain or Bacoff). I drive quite a bit for work and that's a major trigger for me so having the fake stuff really helped me through the first 2 weeks. Now I am trying to wean myself off of the oral fixation part of it little by little. The absolute biggest thing for me was getting involved in this site and the support, encouragement and especially the accountability from home. Good luck and we're all here for both of you.
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My husband is going to quit, he set his quit day for April 2, 2016. I'm beyond excited to support him through his quit. What helped you quit? Should I leave him be? Hang out with him? I'm so so excited.
I can't attest for everyone's quit but mine the first 3 days were hell. I wanted a dip more than anything, I was just angry because I felt terrible. I couldn't focus on anything just like everyone else describes it as "the fog". Day 2 was so bad I had to leave work about 2 hours early, I ended up spending the rest of the day in my room with the windows blacked out to ease my migraine (something I've never had before). After day 3 it let up a great deal, I only had the fog and constant thoughts of dipping but the cravings at that point had subsided to where they were just nagging rather than desperately wanting one. As for advice I'd say gum/altoids/hard candy things of that nature help, water, water, water and MORE water, mix in some dark juice (cranberry, pomegranate, etc) as to no wash out (I feel like I'm low on electrolytes from so much water at times) due to so much water. And a key thing for me was basic home foods, I went out to eat on day 6, had a big meal and spend the rest of the night with the worst cravings I'd ever had even before I quit. And finally just either avoid anything that may cause triggers (events that will make him want to dip) for me mine were stress, work (couldn't get around that one), home projects, etc.
I think that pretty much sums up my experience as well Swilderbeast. The physical symptoms passed soon enough for me but I drank a ton of water from past experience. That helps with flushing the nicotine out and the headaches. Gum, hard candies and seeds helped a little bit, but the craving saver for me has been the fake dip (Smokey Mountain or Bacoff). I drive quite a bit for work and that's a major trigger for me so having the fake stuff really helped me through the first 2 weeks. Now I am trying to wean myself off of the oral fixation part of it little by little. The absolute biggest thing for me was getting involved in this site and the support, encouragement and especially the accountability from home. Good luck and we're all here for both of you.
I think the hardest thing is the mental strain and anxiety this will quit will have on your husband.
For me, it made me depressed, I felt anxious about the harm I have done to my body and also questioned my self worth, etc.
Here is a link that can help:
http://www.killthecan.org/community/spousal-support/ (http://www.killthecan.org/community/spousal-support/)
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Hey guys I'm not certain this is the best place to ask but if there's a better one I can't seem to find it. I quit almost 2 weeks ago and now all I have left is the oral fixation. I tried SMC but that didn't burn or kick at all so tried hooch yesterday. Had 3-4 pinches in through the day and last night/today I had some awful mouth pain and a sore throat. I'm just wondering if that's possibly due to the peppers? If so I'll have to try something else which sucks because I really liked it. Anyone have any experience with hooch?
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Hey guys I'm not certain this is the best place to ask but if there's a better one I can't seem to find it. I quit almost 2 weeks ago and now all I have left is the oral fixation. I tried SMC but that didn't burn or kick at all so tried hooch yesterday. Had 3-4 pinches in through the day and last night/today I had some awful mouth pain and a sore throat. I'm just wondering if that's possibly due to the peppers? If so I'll have to try something else which sucks because I really liked it. Anyone have any experience with hooch?
Sean O - Congrats on making the decision to quit and I'm glad you found this place. Get into your quit group, introduce yourself, and starting posting roll every morning, first thing. You are in the
'Pre-HOF June 2016' quit group. You can click here to get there: topic/11536813/281/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11536813/281/)
Just go to the last roll post and post your promise not to use nic in any form for that day...then repeat each day. Your quit group is a great place to ask questions like the one you have... get on over there and get on roll!
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Hello all! After 26 years I am more than ready to lay it down for good. Have tried several times before but only managed to cut back. For me, the first 3 days has never been unbearable. Its the staying quit that gets me.....you know that special turkey hunt when a nice kill must be celebrated with a fatty......etc. 'Remshot'
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Hey all - new to the site. not sure if i'm posting in the right forum or not. 17 year dipper of skoal straight long. quit 18 days ago. i was feeling like every day was getting just a little bit easier, but the last 2 days I have been a fucking nutjob. I'm antsy, angry, aggressive... depressed... i'm driving erratic and speeding just because i envision a car wreck. I argue with my wife for no reason, just to argue really. I feel like getting a bottle of whiskey and a sledge hammer and just going to town.
how long does this last?? have I always been an asshole and dip was hiding it?
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Hello all! After 26 years I am more than ready to lay it down for good. Have tried several times before but only managed to cut back. For me, the first 3 days has never been unbearable. Its the staying quit that gets me.....you know that special turkey hunt when a nice kill must be celebrated with a fatty......etc. 'Remshot'
Get into the July 2016 quit group and start posting roll with your fellow quit brothers. topic/11568995/46/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11568995/46/)
...just so you know, that "fatty" you want to celebrate with is going to kill you. Stop romanticizing dip... why not celebrate with a hug with your kid or photo to hang in your house...it looks a lot better without a wad of shit in your mouth...
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Hey all - new to the site. not sure if i'm posting in the right forum or not. 17 year dipper of skoal straight long. quit 18 days ago. i was feeling like every day was getting just a little bit easier, but the last 2 days I have been a fucking nutjob. I'm antsy, angry, aggressive... depressed... i'm driving erratic and speeding just because i envision a car wreck. I argue with my wife for no reason, just to argue really. I feel like getting a bottle of whiskey and a sledge hammer and just going to town.
how long does this last?? have I always been an asshole and dip was hiding it?
18 days quit is AWESOME! Keep winning! Get into the June 2016 quit group and start posting roll each day. Brotherhood and accountability is what we're about here... topic/11536813/289/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11536813/289/)
Your quit group is a great place to ask these questions and see how other guys are handling it...
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Feel u Jswiss; I quit 21 dAys ago 3-9. Was coasting ... Using smokey mtn. Fake dip to curb the oral fix; all of sudden anxiety-depression out the ass??? Been constant chewer since 19; now 45. 24-7 unless sleeping would wake up for it... :huh:
Any other assholes out there similar stuff?
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Hey everyone just thought Id introduce myself. I was a smoker for about 5 years, would sometimes dip inbetween smokes and really was just a huge nicotine junkie. I quit all nicotine for about 7 months and then crept back into dipping about a tin a week. Then it became a couple tins a week for about a year. The past few months have been a literal battle with dip. Ill stop for 4 or 5 days and be sucked back in. Well this time Im tired of going back. I will not be sucked back in and the last thing thats going to put me 6 feet under is some stupid plant called tobacco! Agh! Its just such a mental anguish quitting you know? Its been the bull of a day for me today. It isnt much but you gotta start somewhere. Its been 3 weeks since my last quit which was a 5 day quit. Well heres to day 1! Its really nice having a place you can vent this stuff to with people who actually have done what every nicotine addict can hardly fathom: control. God bless you all and especially the creators of this site. You are saving many lives with a place like this.
Well this post is all over the place as am I on my first day of a dipless life. Hope yall understand!
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Stay strong... Waking up proud of myself everyday! Take control of you. Wake up tired as hell/fatigued but nicotine-tobacco free!
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Feel u Jswiss; I quit 21 dAys ago 3-9. Was coasting ... Using smokey mtn. Fake dip to curb the oral fix; all of sudden anxiety-depression out the ass??? Been constant chewer since 19; now 45. 24-7 unless sleeping would wake up for it... :huh:
Any other assholes out there similar stuff?
Yes sir, anxiety and depression is something I struggled with. And it occurs with a lot of Quitters.
Stay busy, exercise and remember you can't change the past only the future.
And also it will get better!
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Hey everyone just thought Id introduce myself. I was a smoker for about 5 years, would sometimes dip inbetween smokes and really was just a huge nicotine junkie. I quit all nicotine for about 7 months and then crept back into dipping about a tin a week. Then it became a couple tins a week for about a year. The past few months have been a literal battle with dip. Ill stop for 4 or 5 days and be sucked back in. Well this time Im tired of going back. I will not be sucked back in and the last thing thats going to put me 6 feet under is some stupid plant called tobacco! Agh! Its just such a mental anguish quitting you know? Its been the bull of a day for me today. It isnt much but you gotta start somewhere. Its been 3 weeks since my last quit which was a 5 day quit. Well heres to day 1! Its really nice having a place you can vent this stuff to with people who actually have done what every nicotine addict can hardly fathom: control. God bless you all and especially the creators of this site. You are saving many lives with a place like this.
Well this post is all over the place as am I on my first day of a dipless life. Hope yall understand!
Get involved! Find someone to keep accountable! Reach out and exchange numbers. Brotherhood + Accountability - excuses = quit
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Hi, first time joining a forum however not my first time trying to kick this habit. Started chewing when I was 16 and now about to hit 35. I feel like crap all the time and am setting a bad example for my 9 year old twins. I've been through this before and want to make this my last. Any support is appreciated as this is day #1 in my journey.
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Hi, first time joining a forum however not my first time trying to kick this habit. Started chewing when I was 16 and now about to hit 35. I feel like crap all the time and am setting a bad example for my 9 year old twins. I've been through this before and want to make this my last. Any support is appreciated as this is day #1 in my journey.
Coming here to quit is the best decision you could have made. I'm on my phone, so I can't do a great job of guiding you to your quit group ... Go back to the main Forum page. Find the link to Quit Groups. Scroll down til you find the July 2016 pre HOF group. Go to the last page in that thread. Find directions for Posting Roll in that thread. Post a promise to not use nicotine in any form today. Make the same promise every day. Stay quit.
It's not easy, but it is that simple.
Read as much as you can on this site, and get involved.
Stay quit.
I'm proud to quit with you today.
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Couple questions?? Looking for input.
Is the dead-ass no energy feeling in the am outta bed due to no nicotine...?
Is it ok to use the fake chew, it really helps me get thru the ritual and oral fix...
Stay strong/clean!
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Couple questions?? Looking for input.
Is the dead-ass no energy feeling in the am outta bed due to no nicotine...?
Is it ok to use the fake chew, it really helps me get thru the ritual and oral fix...
Stay strong/clean!
Aregee70, good to see you on the boards and glad to see you quit. Get on over to the June Quit Group (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11536813/) and post your promise to quit for 24 hours. Make that promise every day and keep your word and you will be quit.
You are not here by accident. You have found THE place to get the support you need to kick your addiction to nicotine. We know, because we've walked your path. We are addicts, too.
This is a NICOTINE FREE FORUM.
1. Be sure to visit the WELCOME CENTER (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13) for what you need to know.
2. Stop by Introductions (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=25) and tell us something about yourself.
3. Knowing what to expect is found here (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/what.asp) and here (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/symptoms.asp).
4. Print this Contract to give up... (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/contract-to-give-up/); put it in your wallet and commit to signing it before you can take another dip.
5. Read about Tom and Jenny Kern (http://www.caringbridge.org/mn/tomkern/histo%20To%20all%20ry.htm) , It will be a tough read, but do it. Start from the beginning
6. Unsure how to Post Roll? Click here -- How to post roll (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50).
7. For inspiration stop by Words of Wisdom (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=41), HOF Speeches (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=9), and the Hall of Legends (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=65)
8. Here are some Suggested Site Settings (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/10204518/1/?x=90#new) for KTC.
9. The rules for these boards are few, but check them out nonetheless. Board Guidelines (http://forum.killthecan.org/boardrules/)
Definitely the no energy feeling is from nic withdrawal. This was all over the map for me during the first 2 weeks. Listless one minute and raging like a lunatic the next. After about day 15 though it's been more steady.
I use smokey mountain to help me get through the day. Candies and what not work a little for me, but not as well as the fake stuff to help curb the crave/oral fix. Some people think it's too much like using the real and don't recommend it. I say use whatever the hell you can to keep the poison out.
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My husband is 11 hours into his quit, tomorrow he can post roll for his first time. He's joining just as soon as he can think of a user name. I really want this for him, he's a great guy, nicotine had robbed so much time and money from our family, I'm glad my husband is taking back control of his life.
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My husband is 11 hours into his quit, tomorrow he can post roll for his first time. He's joining just as soon as he can think of a user name. I really want this for him, he's a great guy, nicotine had robbed so much time and money from our family, I'm glad my husband is taking back control of his life.
He can post now. Today is his day one. Today is the first day he commited to remain nicotine free. Jump in. The water's fine!
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I started smoking close to 30 to 35 years ago until my son was born in 2004. I picked up dip for the first time then, thinking it would help me quit smoking. 12 years later I am still hooked. I have tried to quit but went back to smoking almost immediately. So I picked the can back up. I have chewed a can of cope or red seal every day for the whole time. It has kept calling me back every time I took a dip out. I can do it anywhere I wanted as long as I had a spitter of some sort. Until recently, I kept noticing that I was getting sick of the taste, the feel and everything that goes along with it. I would put a dip in and not even a couple of minutes would pass and I would take it out. On Sunday the 27th of March 2016 I decided to allow my self no more than two dips the next day, but I had to go as long as I could with out one. I took my dip out at 6pm on the 27th and made it to 1230 on the 28th, It was hard but I realized I could do it!!! I had one more dip on the 28th and I took that out at 330 pm, that way I could take the edge off before I went home to the wife and kids. That was the last dip I took, I have been dip free since 330 pm on the 28th of March 2016. It has been hard as hell in many cases but easier than I thought in others. I am just done with it and never want to have another dip again or even nicotine ever again. I will be 40 this August and want to be able to grow old and see my 4 year daughter get married and have kids!! I got this, this time!! But I will need help, I have always looked at this site because it was very informative and I took the jump and joined.
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Great day clean, I have been reading a lot on and off site... The dimensions of gnus habit are immense. It has stolen life from so many people and in so many ways. Find that quit trigger and be done w/it. For years I have thought about possibility of oral cancer, but it goes soon much further than that. How about just treating your body/brain/bloodstream proper... I'm sure it will be a long journey to regulate but will be well worth not being a slave to this lifestyle!
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I started smoking close to 30 to 35 years ago until my son was born in 2004. I picked up dip for the first time then, thinking it would help me quit smoking. 12 years later I am still hooked. I have tried to quit but went back to smoking almost immediately. So I picked the can back up. I have chewed a can of cope or red seal every day for the whole time. It has kept calling me back every time I took a dip out. I can do it anywhere I wanted as long as I had a spitter of some sort. Until recently, I kept noticing that I was getting sick of the taste, the feel and everything that goes along with it. I would put a dip in and not even a couple of minutes would pass and I would take it out. On Sunday the 27th of March 2016 I decided to allow my self no more than two dips the next day, but I had to go as long as I could with out one. I took my dip out at 6pm on the 27th and made it to 1230 on the 28th, It was hard but I realized I could do it!!! I had one more dip on the 28th and I took that out at 330 pm, that way I could take the edge off before I went home to the wife and kids. That was the last dip I took, I have been dip free since 330 pm on the 28th of March 2016. It has been hard as hell in many cases but easier than I thought in others. I am just done with it and never want to have another dip again or even nicotine ever again. I will be 40 this August and want to be able to grow old and see my 4 year daughter get married and have kids!! I got this, this time!! But I will need help, I have always looked at this site because it was very informative and I took the jump and joined.
Richard, sounds like we're in a similar boat, except I turned 40 on my quit date (Feb 8th) and my daughter is 3 weeks old today! The combo of the two things has turned out to be great incentive. For whatever reason, turning 40 had been looming in my mind as a make-or-break date. I had to ask myself...if you're not man enough to do this by 40, when will you be? I've been almost scared on those days when it seems so easy, but I've learned that I have to take it very seriously, especially on those days. One trick I've used is remembering my worst dipping moments trying to re-live them as best as I can. The first was a night about a year ago, I came home from a long day of helping a buddy with some work on his house, we wrapped it up with some beers of course, I had been dipping like my life depended on it the whole time. Later that night, trying to fall asleep, my jaw was just throbbing buzzing...scaring the absolute hell out of me. I lost a bunch of sleep then woke up fine the next day, but I'll never forget how bad I hated dip in that moment. The second was several years ago when I saw my little nephew about a split second away from dumping the contents of my spitter down his throat. I caught him just in time...and just wanted to go out to the street and walk into oncoming traffic. Sometimes when I get cravings, I think about times like that remind myself that dipping is AWFUL there's a thousand reasons I quit. That evil, addicted part of our brain that still remains tries to tell us that caving will offer some sort of relief. It won't. Let's hang in there!
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I quit Saturday night April 2nd after the ncaa games. Made so many excuses for so many years (ill quit after vacation, long road trip coming up, blah blah blah). There is no good time to quit, just a time that you decide you no longer want to be a slave to the drug. For the last 17 years I have planned my life around chewing tobacco, not scheduling meetings so I could have a post meal dip, staying up late, "working on something in the garage" so the wife wont see it...I don't know why I did that for so long. I'm upset at myself for all the time I wasted in my life dipping. Forget the money, the only currency in life that matters is time, ask someone on their deathbed how much they would pay for an extra year/6 months/day, and the answer is however much you want. I don't want to look back and think of all the time I wasted sitting on couch, or in my office dipping. That is a wasted life. No more.
My wife thought I quit years ago, so glad I found this resource to help with the issues. If I get on here and just start bitching, my apologies in advance.
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I quit Saturday night April 2nd after the ncaa games. Made so many excuses for so many years (ill quit after vacation, long road trip coming up, blah blah blah). There is no good time to quit, just a time that you decide you no longer want to be a slave to the drug. For the last 17 years I have planned my life around chewing tobacco, not scheduling meetings so I could have a post meal dip, staying up late, "working on something in the garage" so the wife wont see it...I don't know why I did that for so long. I'm upset at myself for all the time I wasted in my life dipping. Forget the money, the only currency in life that matters is time, ask someone on their deathbed how much they would pay for an extra year/6 months/day, and the answer is however much you want. I don't want to look back and think of all the time I wasted sitting on couch, or in my office dipping. That is a wasted life. No more.
My wife thought I quit years ago, so glad I found this resource to help with the issues. If I get on here and just start bitching, my apologies in advance.
Welcome, I told my wife I quit many times. then only to get caught trying to hide it.
Freedom from chew is wonderful, drink the koolaid, we can help if you want it.
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My husband is 7 days into his quit.
Or my husband tells me that he is 7 days into his quit.
I told myself he was quitting for himself.
It's obvious now he is quitting for me.
When I make a big deal, he tells me to stop, I start to think that maybe it is because he's not quit, is his concise getting to him, I wonder?
I helped him make an account on here, he won't post, he's says he doesn't need to.
He talks about "problems in his life" and "needing dip."
He talks about dip like it's an entitlement.
He says he might "buy a few cans per year"
He says quitting is "easy"
I thought I could stay strong.
I prepared to be his support.
He doesn't want this quit.
I hate worrying about him.
I find myself distancing myself from him, I'm afraid for his life, he's gambled with these poisons so long.
Tonight I offered to go with him to run an errand, he accused me of only wanting to go because I wanted to stop him from buying a can, but I know that I can't stop him, only he can.
So for now I pray and choose to wait.
If he fails, I will love him still. If he doesn't fail, I'll be proud, so so proud.
Dipping is difficult on spouses. And all of you who think your wives don't know, I bet almost all of them know. It's just a fight that we can't win, it's a fight you have to fight for youself.
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My husband is 7 days into his quit.
Or my husband tells me that he is 7 days into his quit.
I told myself he was quitting for himself.
It's obvious now he is quitting for me.
When I make a big deal, he tells me to stop, I start to think that maybe it is because he's not quit, is his concise getting to him, I wonder?
I helped him make an account on here, he won't post, he's says he doesn't need to.
He talks about "problems in his life" and "needing dip."
He talks about dip like it's an entitlement.
He says he might "buy a few cans per year"
He says quitting is "easy"
I thought I could stay strong.
I prepared to be his support.
He doesn't want this quit.
I hate worrying about him.
I find myself distancing myself from him, I'm afraid for his life, he's gambled with these poisons so long.
Tonight I offered to go with him to run an errand, he accused me of only wanting to go because I wanted to stop him from buying a can, but I know that I can't stop him, only he can.
So for now I pray and choose to wait.
If he fails, I will love him still. If he doesn't fail, I'll be proud, so so proud.
Dipping is difficult on spouses. And all of you who think your wives don't know, I bet almost all of them know. It's just a fight that we can't win, it's a fight you have to fight for youself.
I hate to agree but I think you're spot on. If you're husband hasn't been able to do it on his own for 17 years, he's certainly not going to be able to do it now. This place is special. At first it seems elementary and almost beneath a man to get on a computer or cell phone to type in a promise to a bunch of strangers every day, but in that simplicity lies the magic. The fact that you're more involved on here than he is shows that his "quit" is for you and not him. It's also probably a facade.
Once he's ready to quit for real, tell him to sign up on his own, be a man, and jump in with the rest of us addicts. My wife shares/shared your sentiment. 272 days ago I was exactly where your husband is, except that I was fed up with this shit. He's not fed up, yet. Once he is, we'll be here.
I feel sorry for your helplessness and wish I could offer a solution but it truly HAS to be the addict's decision to stop. Our lives change when our habits change. There is no freak luck and God doesn't have any favorites.
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My husband is 7 days into his quit.
Or my husband tells me that he is 7 days into his quit.
I told myself he was quitting for himself.
It's obvious now he is quitting for me.
When I make a big deal, he tells me to stop, I start to think that maybe it is because he's not quit, is his concise getting to him, I wonder?
I helped him make an account on here, he won't post, he's says he doesn't need to.
He talks about "problems in his life" and "needing dip."
He talks about dip like it's an entitlement.
He says he might "buy a few cans per year"
He says quitting is "easy"
I thought I could stay strong.
I prepared to be his support.
He doesn't want this quit.
I hate worrying about him.
I find myself distancing myself from him, I'm afraid for his life, he's gambled with these poisons so long.
Tonight I offered to go with him to run an errand, he accused me of only wanting to go because I wanted to stop him from buying a can, but I know that I can't stop him, only he can.
So for now I pray and choose to wait.
If he fails, I will love him still. If he doesn't fail, I'll be proud, so so proud.
Dipping is difficult on spouses. And all of you who think your wives don't know, I bet almost all of them know. It's just a fight that we can't win, it's a fight you have to fight for youself.
I hate to agree but I think you're spot on. If you're husband hasn't been able to do it on his own for 17 years, he's certainly not going to be able to do it now. This place is special. At first it seems elementary and almost beneath a man to get on a computer or cell phone to type in a promise to a bunch of strangers every day, but in that simplicity lies the magic. The fact that you're more involved on here than he is shows that his "quit" is for you and not him. It's also probably a facade.
Once he's ready to quit for real, tell him to sign up on his own, be a man, and jump in with the rest of us addicts. My wife shares/shared your sentiment. 272 days ago I was exactly where your husband is, except that I was fed up with this shit. He's not fed up, yet. Once he is, we'll be here.
I feel sorry for your helplessness and wish I could offer a solution but it truly HAS to be the addict's decision to stop. Our lives change when our habits change. There is no freak luck and God doesn't have any favorites.
Geis is spot on here, and I hate to say it, but I have to agree with both of you as well. As you pointed out, you can't force him to quit any more than you can't follow him around 100% of the time to ensure he's not buying a can.
I tried to quit many many times on my own thinking that I was manly enough to do it on my own and if I told myself I was done, then damnit I would be. Nicotine addiction was stronger than I was. Then I found this group of dysfunctional addicts, and that was 274 days ago. I've never met a single one of them, but I've spoken with a few, and texted with many others. This place is a brotherhood and I wouldn't have made it without them.
If your husband is anything like me, he thinks that cancer won't touch him. He brushes his teeth, takes care of himself, and everybody is entitled to one vice right? Wrong. This place helped me to understand that this "vice" will likely kill you in some way. There is a common rhetorical question that goes around here: How many 75 year olds do you know that chew? The answer is usually none.
My brother died about six weeks ago from cancer. He had been married about 2 years prior, had a 7 year old daughter, and was only 31. God doesn't play favorites and neither does cancer. The more opportunities you take to introduce carcinogens into your system, the more loaded puts you're putting in the chamber for your game of Russian roulette. I don't mean any of this to scare you or for you to try and scare your husband. The truth is this place has undoubtedly saved hundreds, if not thousands, of lives. It has also likely saved marriages, restored dignity, and changed perspectives. It has done that for me, and it can do that for you husband as well. I will pray that God grants you both grace in this difficult time. If there is any way we can help, please do not hesitate to ask.
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He failed.
I found an open can in his shoe.
The deception is what hurts. How can he let me praise him for his quit knowing he really isn't on day 8? I am not at all surprised that he failed, but I thought I had proven myself a friend, a safe person to walk on this journey with, I read everything about being a support person, I was ready, bit he wasn't. I hope one day he wants this quit for himself, because quiting for me did not work.
I learned
1 You can't quit alone
2. You can't quit for someone else
3. If you aren't getting involved here and posting roll, you are not serious about quitting.
4. The amazing people on this site who have quit are committed to seeing others quit
5. This site is an incredible resource
6. Quiting is one of the most difficult, but also the most rewarding things you can everify do
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He failed.
I found an open can in his shoe.
The deception is what hurts. How can he let me praise him for his quit knowing he really isn't on day 8? I am not at all surprised that he failed, but I thought I had proven myself a friend, a safe person to walk on this journey with, I read everything about being a support person, I was ready, bit he wasn't. I hope one day he wants this quit for himself, because quiting for me did not work.
I learned
1 You can't quit alone
2. You can't quit for someone else
3. If you aren't getting involved here and posting roll, you are not serious about quitting.
4. The amazing people on this site who have quit are committed to seeing others quit
5. This site is an incredible resource
6. Quiting is one of the most difficult, but also the most rewarding things you can everify do
You've nailed it here ^^^. I'm sorry that it didn't work out, but don't let him forget about this site. When he is ready, this site will make sure it sticks. Don't hesitate to reach out if you need anything.
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He failed.
I found an open can in his shoe.
The deception is what hurts. How can he let me praise him for his quit knowing he really isn't on day 8? I am not at all surprised that he failed, but I thought I had proven myself a friend, a safe person to walk on this journey with, I read everything about being a support person, I was ready, bit he wasn't. I hope one day he wants this quit for himself, because quiting for me did not work.
I learned
1 You can't quit alone
2. You can't quit for someone else
3. If you aren't getting involved here and posting roll, you are not serious about quitting.
4. The amazing people on this site who have quit are committed to seeing others quit
5. This site is an incredible resource
6. Quiting is one of the most difficult, but also the most rewarding things you can everify do
You've nailed it here ^^^. I'm sorry that it didn't work out, but don't let him forget about this site. When he is ready, this site will make sure it sticks. Don't hesitate to reach out if you need anything.
I can say it has to be the addicts decision to quit, all you can do is decide how much to put his feet to the fire. Personally, the cancer pics of what dip does is a healthy reminder for me. I applaud how you care for his well-being and understand that he is allowed to live his own life.
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Quit chewing on 3/30/16 after almost 25 years. Currently experiencing severe body aches the last couple of days. Is this common? It's not the flu or any other malady. Any feedback would be appreciated.
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Today is day one, I checked the quit groups but it looks like it only shows 2015? Can someone post a link to where I need to post my daily commitment?
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Today is day one, I checked the quit groups but it looks like it only shows 2015? Can someone post a link to where I need to post my daily commitment?
You need to scroll down. http://www.killthecan.org/quit-groups/ (http://www.killthecan.org/quit-groups/)
Go to the QUIT GROUPS: forum/55566/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/55566/)
Scroll down past the previous years.
If you quit today, you're a part of the July 2016 HOF Class: topic/11568995/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11568995/)
Let me know if this doesn't make sense. Welcome aboard!
Chewie
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Not sure which fourm to post a question so ill post it here.. im on day 6 of no dip my food taste horrible and I cant find drinks that taste good. Are these normal symptoms?
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Not sure which fourm to post a question so ill post it here.. im on day 6 of no dip my food taste horrible and I cant find drinks that taste good. Are these normal symptoms?
Stick with it Johnny. You won't believe how good food and drinks taste after you've gotten over the "fog" hump. For me that was about 30 days in. The subtle tastes that I hadn't tasted in years were a welcome difference to the poisonous worm dirt flavor of the dip.
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Quit chewing on 3/30/16 after almost 25 years. Currently experiencing severe body aches the last couple of days. Is this common? It's not the flu or any other malady. Any feedback would be appreciated.
Pretty much any side effect is "common", depending on your lifestyle, how much/how long you dipped, etc. Headaches are probably more common, but body aches could be the result of changed eating habits, more/less exercise or even the shakes. Hell, if someone told me they were bleeding out of their eyes ears the first week of their quit, I'd believe it. The side effects feel like they'll last forever, but you just have to trust that they're temporary.
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My quit date is tomorrow smoking and chewing I'm done... I hope I'm in the right forum where I'm allowed to post if I haven't quit yet. Over the last 6 months I have lost 25 pounds due to lack of appetite because of my use.
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My husband made his own account AND posted an intro AND posted roll. I am so proud of him and hope KTC will be the difference this quit.
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My quit date is tomorrow smoking and chewing I'm done... I hope I'm in the right forum where I'm allowed to post if I haven't quit yet. Over the last 6 months I have lost 25 pounds due to lack of appetite because of my use.
Yeah, you can get started here, just cant post in the "Quit Groups". Why not reach down grab a hold and tell nicotine you have had enough then go post a Day one? It sucks for everyone at first, but it does get better. And I, for one of Many, support your quit and health 100%.
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My husband made his own account AND posted an intro AND posted roll. I am so proud of him and hope KTC will be the difference this quit.
That's GREAT! What is his username so I can go add some extra support?
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I just went through the worst few days of my life. (not dip related). Knowing what I have learned from this site for the past 2297 days kept me from turning back to the can.
Thanks to the KTC family!! This shit works.
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My husband made his own account AND posted an intro AND posted roll. I am so proud of him and hope KTC will be the difference this quit.
That's GREAT! What is his username so I can go add some extra support?
His name is Dante, his username is Spit Cup. Thank you for offering extra support.
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Well I quit the can yesterday. This stuff is BAD stuff! I think the hardest part is that it becomes so much a part of you, part of your identity. However it's a part of your identity that many of us to go extraordinary lengths to hide from the ones that matter most to us. I wouldn't do it in front on my wife or child, lied about it, covered it up, passed it off, passed the blame on my wife and yesterday she up and said "I'm ready to leave if this doesn't stop." It's not that I do it, it's that I have in essence covered it up and lied about it for so long. In truth I've been using it for fun since my jr year in High School. Just as a recreational thing at first, the driving range, golf, watching tv with the guys, you get the picture. Then I started using it more and more. I started smoking and stopped dipping in college, then in 2007 I met my wife. I knew she didn't like the smell of smoke (as I no longer do) so I started to dip again. I went to the length of stopping in a store parking lot near her condo to brush my teeth before I got there so she wouldn't smell the scent of dip on my breath. The lengths one will go to in order to hide something they are ashamed of! When she started seeing some of the spillage from the can, I switched to pouches. Clever me! She still knew. We all pride ourselves on being tough hard working men, and part of that is what makes me want to chew. I'm being a man! I told myself that at the birth of my daughter I would quit. Nope! Not even that stopped me. It makes me feel like a horrible person because I love both her and my wife so much. So yesterday, I went an got some counseling from a pharmacist and got the nicotine gum, and I'm following the directions. I pray to God that this finally helps me kick the habit. We have another little girl due in a little over a month and I want to be around for a while!
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Well I quit the can yesterday. This stuff is BAD stuff! I think the hardest part is that it becomes so much a part of you, part of your identity. However it's a part of your identity that many of us to go extraordinary lengths to hide from the ones that matter most to us. I wouldn't do it in front on my wife or child, lied about it, covered it up, passed it off, passed the blame on my wife and yesterday she up and said "I'm ready to leave if this doesn't stop." It's not that I do it, it's that I have in essence covered it up and lied about it for so long. In truth I've been using it for fun since my jr year in High School. Just as a recreational thing at first, the driving range, golf, watching tv with the guys, you get the picture. Then I started using it more and more. I started smoking and stopped dipping in college, then in 2007 I met my wife. I knew she didn't like the smell of smoke (as I no longer do) so I started to dip again. I went to the length of stopping in a store parking lot near her condo to brush my teeth before I got there so she wouldn't smell the scent of dip on my breath. The lengths one will go to in order to hide something they are ashamed of! When she started seeing some of the spillage from the can, I switched to pouches. Clever me! She still knew. We all pride ourselves on being tough hard working men, and part of that is what makes me want to chew. I'm being a man! I told myself that at the birth of my daughter I would quit. Nope! Not even that stopped me. It makes me feel like a horrible person because I love both her and my wife so much. So yesterday, I went an got some counseling from a pharmacist and got the nicotine gum, and I'm following the directions. I pray to God that this finally helps me kick the habit. We have another little girl due in a little over a month and I want to be around for a while!
Hi ber. Your story sounds a lot like mine, except it took me almost 25 years to start my forever quit.
First off - this is a nicotine free zone. You can't be a member here until you trash the gum, dip, pouches, patches, any form of nicotine at all. Just do it.
Once you are rid of all forms of nicotine, you can start posting in your quit group here. (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11568995/211/)
Posting in your quit group is your promise to not use nicotine in any form. It is the heart of the support offered here in KTC.
Also, after you've trashed your gum, dip, pouches, patches, any form of nicotine at all, you can start your own introduction thread here. (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/55574/)
Take the plunge, quit the nicotine, be the type of man you want your kids to know. But, do it for yourself, because you don't want to be a slave anymore.
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Well I quit the can yesterday. This stuff is BAD stuff! I think the hardest part is that it becomes so much a part of you, part of your identity. However it's a part of your identity that many of us to go extraordinary lengths to hide from the ones that matter most to us. I wouldn't do it in front on my wife or child, lied about it, covered it up, passed it off, passed the blame on my wife and yesterday she up and said "I'm ready to leave if this doesn't stop." It's not that I do it, it's that I have in essence covered it up and lied about it for so long. In truth I've been using it for fun since my jr year in High School. Just as a recreational thing at first, the driving range, golf, watching tv with the guys, you get the picture. Then I started using it more and more. I started smoking and stopped dipping in college, then in 2007 I met my wife. I knew she didn't like the smell of smoke (as I no longer do) so I started to dip again. I went to the length of stopping in a store parking lot near her condo to brush my teeth before I got there so she wouldn't smell the scent of dip on my breath. The lengths one will go to in order to hide something they are ashamed of! When she started seeing some of the spillage from the can, I switched to pouches. Clever me! She still knew. We all pride ourselves on being tough hard working men, and part of that is what makes me want to chew. I'm being a man! I told myself that at the birth of my daughter I would quit. Nope! Not even that stopped me. It makes me feel like a horrible person because I love both her and my wife so much. So yesterday, I went an got some counseling from a pharmacist and got the nicotine gum, and I'm following the directions. I pray to God that this finally helps me kick the habit. We have another little girl due in a little over a month and I want to be around for a while!
Just my 2 cents.....Be careful if you do choose the gum route I became more addicted to that damn gum then I did the dip. I actually had to ween myself off the gum and back on to dip to get away from the gum. It also gave me terrible heartburn and hiccups.
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Well I quit the can yesterday. This stuff is BAD stuff! I think the hardest part is that it becomes so much a part of you, part of your identity. However it's a part of your identity that many of us to go extraordinary lengths to hide from the ones that matter most to us. I wouldn't do it in front on my wife or child, lied about it, covered it up, passed it off, passed the blame on my wife and yesterday she up and said "I'm ready to leave if this doesn't stop." It's not that I do it, it's that I have in essence covered it up and lied about it for so long. In truth I've been using it for fun since my jr year in High School. Just as a recreational thing at first, the driving range, golf, watching tv with the guys, you get the picture. Then I started using it more and more. I started smoking and stopped dipping in college, then in 2007 I met my wife. I knew she didn't like the smell of smoke (as I no longer do) so I started to dip again. I went to the length of stopping in a store parking lot near her condo to brush my teeth before I got there so she wouldn't smell the scent of dip on my breath. The lengths one will go to in order to hide something they are ashamed of! When she started seeing some of the spillage from the can, I switched to pouches. Clever me! She still knew. We all pride ourselves on being tough hard working men, and part of that is what makes me want to chew. I'm being a man! I told myself that at the birth of my daughter I would quit. Nope! Not even that stopped me. It makes me feel like a horrible person because I love both her and my wife so much. So yesterday, I went an got some counseling from a pharmacist and got the nicotine gum, and I'm following the directions. I pray to God that this finally helps me kick the habit. We have another little girl due in a little over a month and I want to be around for a while!
Just my 2 cents.....Be careful if you do choose the gum route I became more addicted to that damn gum then I did the dip. I actually had to ween myself off the gum and back on to dip to get away from the gum. It also gave me terrible heartburn and hiccups.
I agree with the hiding aspect, however, I feel as though going cold turkey is really the only way. I tried all of the possible options before I found KTC. It was here that I realized cold turkey and a group of brothers is what you need to quit. I went through extraordinary lengths to hide my habit from my girlfriend. All of which she figured out. My method of choice was to dip when she was at work or when I was at work. However, my lack of skill in the hiding department got me caught over and over when I would try to hide my spitters. She became less and less trusting of me. Her words were "if you can lie about this, how do I know you're not lying about something else?" I told her I would quit to prove my honesty. That was easier said than done. I had so many triggers that I am still breaking, showering, driving, golfing, video games, watching the games, going to the bars, and my biggest one, working. Much respect to everyone here that are kicking their triggers and booting the nic bitch to the curb where she belongs.
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I am a 20 year old woman, and I have been chewing Copenhagen and Grizzly straight for 2 years. This first time I ever chewed was in my ex boyfriend, and I have been hooked ever since. I am sharing this because I would like to quit. Today I was working out and I saw a commercial of a man who was diagnosed with mouth cancer from chewing tobacco for 4 years. It scared the hell out of me. I have tried to stop cold turkey before, but it didn't work so here I am. I am gonna start weaning myself off because I know I won't be able to do cold turkey. The sad thing is that I practically depend on my chew. It has become a part of me and I am ashamed. I do not chew around people and I do not tell anyone that a chew besides a few of my friends. I am in college and after a long day of studying I like to put a nice big dip in my lip. I am scared for my health and I truly want to stop. Any suggestions?
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I am a 20 year old woman, and I have been chewing Copenhagen and Grizzly straight for 2 years. This first time I ever chewed was in my ex boyfriend, and I have been hooked ever since. I am sharing this because I would like to quit. Today I was working out and I saw a commercial of a man who was diagnosed with mouth cancer from chewing tobacco for 4 years. It scared the hell out of me. I have tried to stop cold turkey before, but it didn't work so here I am. I am gonna start weaning myself off because I know I won't be able to do cold turkey. The sad thing is that I practically depend on my chew. It has become a part of me and I am ashamed. I do not chew around people and I do not tell anyone that a chew besides a few of my friends. I am in college and after a long day of studying I like to put a nice big dip in my lip. I am scared for my health and I truly want to stop. Any suggestions?
Welcome ems.
This is a nicotine free site. We welcome any members who agree to remain free of all forms of nicotine.
If you use this site, and all its resources, staying dip free won't be as hard as it was when you were on your own.
Find the Quit Groups section of the forums. Go to the July '16 pre HOF quit group. That's your group. There are instructions for posting roll in the thread. Posting roll is the back bone of this site, and the support you'll get. Posting roll is your promise to your group to stay quit. Make your promise, and honor it. Your group will demand that you keep your promise.
Flush all of your dip, and rinse the can. Make your promise, and keep it. Get involved with your group. Stay quit.
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I am a 20 year old woman, and I have been chewing Copenhagen and Grizzly straight for 2 years. This first time I ever chewed was in my ex boyfriend, and I have been hooked ever since. I am sharing this because I would like to quit. Today I was working out and I saw a commercial of a man who was diagnosed with mouth cancer from chewing tobacco for 4 years. It scared the hell out of me. I have tried to stop cold turkey before, but it didn't work so here I am. I am gonna start weaning myself off because I know I won't be able to do cold turkey. The sad thing is that I practically depend on my chew. It has become a part of me and I am ashamed. I do not chew around people and I do not tell anyone that a chew besides a few of my friends. I am in college and after a long day of studying I like to put a nice big dip in my lip. I am scared for my health and I truly want to stop. Any suggestions?
Welcome ems.
This is a nicotine free site. We welcome any members who agree to remain free of all forms of nicotine.
If you use this site, and all its resources, staying dip free won't be as hard as it was when you were on your own.
Find the Quit Groups section of the forums. Go to the July '16 pre HOF quit group. That's your group. There are instructions for posting roll in the thread. Posting roll is the back bone of this site, and the support you'll get. Posting roll is your promise to your group to stay quit. Make your promise, and honor it. Your group will demand that you keep your promise.
Flush all of your dip, and rinse the can. Make your promise, and keep it. Get involved with your group. Stay quit.
First off Ems, welcome to this place. A place of wonder, excitement and absolutely amazing people who are ready to support your "quit".
I want to encourage you first Ems. Yes, you can cold turkey quit! Tobacco companies thrive on the ones trying to "ween" off their products.
When you are underwater and the only thing you want is a breath of air, that is the type of focus is takes. And I truly believe if you reach out to people on this site through the PM system and in this thread, you will begin to gain the confidence that you can quit for good! Read through all the conversations you can, also head over to KilltheCan.org and check out the stories and even the cancer pics they have. (My aunt had half her jaw removed from chew, later died).
You have to hate nicotine, and I mean hate it and gain your freedom from the tin again! You weren't born with it, you don't need it.
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I am a 20 year old woman, and I have been chewing Copenhagen and Grizzly straight for 2 years. This first time I ever chewed was in my ex boyfriend, and I have been hooked ever since. I am sharing this because I would like to quit. Today I was working out and I saw a commercial of a man who was diagnosed with mouth cancer from chewing tobacco for 4 years. It scared the hell out of me. I have tried to stop cold turkey before, but it didn't work so here I am. I am gonna start weaning myself off because I know I won't be able to do cold turkey. The sad thing is that I practically depend on my chew. It has become a part of me and I am ashamed. I do not chew around people and I do not tell anyone that a chew besides a few of my friends. I am in college and after a long day of studying I like to put a nice big dip in my lip. I am scared for my health and I truly want to stop. Any suggestions?
Welcome ems.
This is a nicotine free site. We welcome any members who agree to remain free of all forms of nicotine.
If you use this site, and all its resources, staying dip free won't be as hard as it was when you were on your own.
Find the Quit Groups section of the forums. Go to the July '16 pre HOF quit group. That's your group. There are instructions for posting roll in the thread. Posting roll is the back bone of this site, and the support you'll get. Posting roll is your promise to your group to stay quit. Make your promise, and honor it. Your group will demand that you keep your promise.
Flush all of your dip, and rinse the can. Make your promise, and keep it. Get involved with your group. Stay quit.
First off Ems, welcome to this place. A place of wonder, excitement and absolutely amazing people who are ready to support your "quit".
I want to encourage you first Ems. Yes, you can cold turkey quit! Tobacco companies thrive on the ones trying to "ween" off their products.
When you are underwater and the only thing you want is a breath of air, that is the type of focus is takes. And I truly believe if you reach out to people on this site through the PM system and in this thread, you will begin to gain the confidence that you can quit for good! Read through all the conversations you can, also head over to KilltheCan.org and check out the stories and even the cancer pics they have. (My aunt had half her jaw removed from chew, later died).
You have to hate nicotine, and I mean hate it and gain your freedom from the tin again! You weren't born with it, you don't need it.
A wise quitter on here once said: "F nicotine dude. You don't need it. You don't want it. It didn't do a thing for you and you know it."
I promise you that this place can get you to that mindset, but you have to buy-in. Head over to July and let's get to quittin.
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Good morning everybody.
Today is day #1. I had been dipping for 5 years and thought it was time to quit. Numerous times I tried to give it up, always resulting in me making up an excuse to go to the store and get another can. With most of the last times I tried to quit, I have noticed that I'll get Restless Leg Syndrome (or something like it) really bad at night. When I was dipping, I was fine. Just wondering if any of you had similar issues?
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Good morning everybody.
Today is day #1. I had been dipping for 5 years and thought it was time to quit. Numerous times I tried to give it up, always resulting in me making up an excuse to go to the store and get another can. With most of the last times I tried to quit, I have noticed that I'll get Restless Leg Syndrome (or something like it) really bad at night. When I was dipping, I was fine. Just wondering if any of you had similar issues?
Glad to quit with you, today and for today only. Don't worry and reach out to people on here as much as you can. Read up. Check your "Inbox" for a PM from me. Have a great day,
Matthew
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Good morning everybody.
Today is day #1. I had been dipping for 5 years and thought it was time to quit. Numerous times I tried to give it up, always resulting in me making up an excuse to go to the store and get another can. With most of the last times I tried to quit, I have noticed that I'll get Restless Leg Syndrome (or something like it) really bad at night. When I was dipping, I was fine. Just wondering if any of you had similar issues?
That's just your addict brain asking for a fix. Most of us started doing nicotine to help relieve anxiety, or quickly found that it was a side benefit of using. As a result most of us have also not learned to deal with anxiety effectively. This (and the other withdrawal symptoms) will eventually lessen and then pass as your brain rewires itself over time. Embrace the suck, it means your body is healing from all the damage you've done. Welcome aboard and I quit with you.
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Hi brothers and sisters. Im on day 2 of my quit. I'm not feeling great but work helps in distracting me until at least 6 pm tonight.
I was posting here to ask what the best way is to get in touch with the other members in my quit group? Is it ok to post in the roll call thread or is that thread only for roll call?
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Stupidity. (http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2016/0426/E-cigarettes-help-adults-quit-smoking-but-they-encourage-teens-to-start)
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Stupidity. (http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2016/0426/E-cigarettes-help-adults-quit-smoking-but-they-encourage-teens-to-start)
*sigh*
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Hi brothers and sisters. Im on day 2 of my quit. I'm not feeling great but work helps in distracting me until at least 6 pm tonight.
I was posting here to ask what the best way is to get in touch with the other members in my quit group? Is it ok to post in the roll call thread or is that thread only for roll call?
Post away in your quit group... exchange phone numbers and text each other... if you live close by meet in person...
Live chat is also available (though sometimes empty)... you aren't restricted to your group.
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So I'm on day 14, and it's getting rough. Worst part is I've lost all interest in doing the work that puts food on my family's table. I'm the sole bread winner, so if my work suffers for too long I could be in big trouble. Thinking about going to the doc to talk anti-depressants. Any advice?
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So I'm on day 14, and it's getting rough. Worst part is I've lost all interest in doing the work that puts food on my family's table. I'm the sole bread winner, so if my work suffers for too long I could be in big trouble. Thinking about going to the doc to talk anti-depressants. Any advice?
Hang in there! The two week mark can be tough.
http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures ... -weakness/ (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/2-week-weakness/)
Keep doing what you've been doing. Drink water, get here and chat and before you know it you should pull out of it. A chat with your doctor isn't out of the question either even if it's just for some peace of mind and to get some sanity.
Chewie
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Decided to quit today because I recognize that it'll never be easier weening off. I'm afraid for what I'm about to go through and more afraid that I'll fail. I played with fire young and it's come back to burn me. My gums are heavily receding and I've only dipped for roughly a year and I'm 19. Stupid mistake to ever mess with the damn stuff but I did and I'm paying for it. Glad I found this place, I'm definitely gonna need it.
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Decided to quit today because I recognize that it'll never be easier weening off. I'm afraid for what I'm about to go through and more afraid that I'll fail. I played with fire young and it's come back to burn me. My gums are heavily receding and I've only dipped for roughly a year and I'm 19. Stupid mistake to ever mess with the damn stuff but I did and I'm paying for it. Glad I found this place, I'm definitely gonna need it.
Nice! I see you posted roll so that's even better. Nice also to see an young man at 19 realize it is time to get out of the slavery that is nicotine.
If you don't, you will be like me, over twice your age, and finally realized how stupid it was to dip for 20+ years.
Just concentrate on quitting every day, every morning. Make your promise. Stay close to this site. Read up on the HOF speeches. Read Introductions.
The quit group will be a place to build camaraderie, accountability and brotherhood. Get to know some of those guys. Exchange text numbers.
You can do this. If you don't quit now, you probably never will. Until it may be too late.
I am proud to quit with you today. See you on roll call tomorrow!
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Hi everyone. I'm quitting this week, am I allowed to post here yet? I've been reading the rules and am unsure so sorry if I'm not.
Long story short, I am a medical student and have been using pouches on and off for the last 3-5 years, sometimes 2 tins a week sometimes 1 every 2 weeks, sometimes none for a month. I have an exam coming up and have tried to quit recently... I ended up starting again because of exam stress. I can't deal with that first-72-hr fog until after I pass this exam, but I'll have the whole summer to break this habit (permanently) without any school pressure so my Day 1 is this Friday.
Anyways, I'll post roll then and post an intro as well, I am mostly just posting this so I have a reason to come back (to see if there are any responses) and keep my promise to myself to quit after this test. Thanks and looking forward to meeting some new folks over at roll.
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Hi everyone. I'm quitting this week, am I allowed to post here yet? I've been reading the rules and am unsure so sorry if I'm not.
Long story short, I am a medical student and have been using pouches on and off for the last 3-5 years, sometimes 2 tins a week sometimes 1 every 2 weeks, sometimes none for a month. I have an exam coming up and have tried to quit recently... I ended up starting again because of exam stress. I can't deal with that first-72-hr fog until after I pass this exam, but I'll have the whole summer to break this habit (permanently) without any school pressure so my Day 1 is this Friday.
Anyways, I'll post roll then and post an intro as well, I am mostly just posting this so I have a reason to come back (to see if there are any responses) and keep my promise to myself to quit after this test. Thanks and looking forward to meeting some new folks over at roll.
Welcome medquit. First of all, congrats on the schooling. Secondly, congrats on wanting to quit. I hope you're serious about it. I can't tell you the number of guys that come in here and post a quit date down the line and then never show back up.
If you ARE serious, then this is the place for you. It will take some hard work to get where you want to be, but not a day goes by that I regret quitting. In fact, I don't think I've ever seen somebody post on here that they regret quitting. Or that they regret not having to hide bottles, pouches, tins, etc. This place works, so if you come back, jump in with both feet, post that intro, and head into August 2016 and post roll. You will be amazed at the support that is at your fingertips at this place.
Shoot me a PM if you need any help.
KingNothing - 300
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Hi everyone. I'm quitting this week, am I allowed to post here yet? I've been reading the rules and am unsure so sorry if I'm not.
Long story short, I am a medical student and have been using pouches on and off for the last 3-5 years, sometimes 2 tins a week sometimes 1 every 2 weeks, sometimes none for a month. I have an exam coming up and have tried to quit recently... I ended up starting again because of exam stress. I can't deal with that first-72-hr fog until after I pass this exam, but I'll have the whole summer to break this habit (permanently) without any school pressure so my Day 1 is this Friday.
Anyways, I'll post roll then and post an intro as well, I am mostly just posting this so I have a reason to come back (to see if there are any responses) and keep my promise to myself to quit after this test. Thanks and looking forward to meeting some new folks over at roll.
Welcome medquit. First of all, congrats on the schooling. Secondly, congrats on wanting to quit. I hope you're serious about it. I can't tell you the number of guys that come in here and post a quit date down the line and then never show back up.
If you ARE serious, then this is the place for you. It will take some hard work to get where you want to be, but not a day goes by that I regret quitting. In fact, I don't think I've ever seen somebody post on here that they regret quitting. Or that they regret not having to hide bottles, pouches, tins, etc. This place works, so if you come back, jump in with both feet, post that intro, and head into August 2016 and post roll. You will be amazed at the support that is at your fingertips at this place.
Shoot me a PM if you need any help.
KingNothing - 300
Thanks for the response. I am serious, tobacco use comes up every day in school and I'm tired of hearing that and feeling pangs of guilt/worry. Also I've noticed the changes in my oral mucosa from chronic use in the last month or so and I don't want to end up with leukoplakia or cancer, or the stuff people don't really think about like pancreatic and bladder cancer or a surprise heart attack at age 45.
I've told myself for the last year or so that if I can quit for a month at a time it means I'm in control, but the fact that I end up going back to it every time proves that that's just an illusion. I'm done pretending, ready to kick it for good.
It's going to be hard because studying is a trigger for me, and I'm going to be studying most days this summer so I'm glad I found you all, the support here looks amazing. Friends/family tell me I'm one of the most persistent people they know, at times to a fault, so I'm hoping that helps me here. Anyways, I'll post back on here when I post roll and my intro, thanks again for the advice.
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Hi everyone. I'm quitting this week, am I allowed to post here yet? I've been reading the rules and am unsure so sorry if I'm not.
Long story short, I am a medical student and have been using pouches on and off for the last 3-5 years, sometimes 2 tins a week sometimes 1 every 2 weeks, sometimes none for a month. I have an exam coming up and have tried to quit recently... I ended up starting again because of exam stress. I can't deal with that first-72-hr fog until after I pass this exam, but I'll have the whole summer to break this habit (permanently) without any school pressure so my Day 1 is this Friday.
Anyways, I'll post roll then and post an intro as well, I am mostly just posting this so I have a reason to come back (to see if there are any responses) and keep my promise to myself to quit after this test. Thanks and looking forward to meeting some new folks over at roll.
Welcome medquit. First of all, congrats on the schooling. Secondly, congrats on wanting to quit. I hope you're serious about it. I can't tell you the number of guys that come in here and post a quit date down the line and then never show back up.
If you ARE serious, then this is the place for you. It will take some hard work to get where you want to be, but not a day goes by that I regret quitting. In fact, I don't think I've ever seen somebody post on here that they regret quitting. Or that they regret not having to hide bottles, pouches, tins, etc. This place works, so if you come back, jump in with both feet, post that intro, and head into August 2016 and post roll. You will be amazed at the support that is at your fingertips at this place.
Shoot me a PM if you need any help.
KingNothing - 300
Thanks for the response. I am serious, tobacco use comes up every day in school and I'm tired of hearing that and feeling pangs of guilt/worry. Also I've noticed the changes in my oral mucosa from chronic use in the last month or so and I don't want to end up with leukoplakia or cancer, or the stuff people don't really think about like pancreatic and bladder cancer or a surprise heart attack at age 45.
I've told myself for the last year or so that if I can quit for a month at a time it means I'm in control, but the fact that I end up going back to it every time proves that that's just an illusion. I'm done pretending, ready to kick it for good.
It's going to be hard because studying is a trigger for me, and I'm going to be studying most days this summer so I'm glad I found you all, the support here looks amazing. Friends/family tell me I'm one of the most persistent people they know, at times to a fault, so I'm hoping that helps me here. Anyways, I'll post back on here when I post roll and my intro, thanks again for the advice.
We don't do "planning to quit" very well. Why don't you quit today? There's no time like the present.
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I'm not really familiar with how the forum works but I have 3 days under my belt now after going about 9 years on the stuff and when I finally broke down how bad it had gotten it was definitely time to give it up cold turkey.
I have a long way to go but if I can do it I know anyone can. I could easily put away a whole can just working 1 day at my desk not to mention part of another one after getting home.
This is the hardest thing I've had to do and I just really need help staying committed and focused on the benefits rather than the huge void I feel.
So far my experience has been day 1 was absolutely horrible and was very close to caving. I was very angry and felt like I was underwater and couldn't breath. I was focused on flushing my body so I drank a lot of water. Gum a seeds don't really do much for me, my thing is herbal substitutes and toothpicks. If I were to do it again I would probably start my quit on the weekend where I could sleep the hours away instead of a Sunday evening/Monday but o well. The workout that day was rage fulled and helped except I always dipped after the gym. I almost caved but pushed through with the big picture in mind.
Day 2 was much better. Of course I'm thinking about it all of the time but not nearly as much.
Day 3 and toxins are almost out of my body. I could actually get some work done. A very proud feeling of not having nicotine in my body anymore as I write this post. I've always been into healthy living but just couldn't get over this huge vice.
My tips are to get past day 1 knowing day 2 will be 2x better and day 3 3x better. Workout. Drink water to flush toxins. Get Smokey Mountain. Increased appetite not a big issue for me, I can still maintain restricted calories. Also I can't go without coffee even though that's everyone's trigger. I don't drink but I'd imagine that needs to be given up for the time being.
I need reassurance now that as I go on life stops being about what the good ol days were like. I have such a romantic idea of just myself and my dip and everything is wonderful. I'm sure everyone used to love their dip also but I feel so empty and hopeless and feel like that feeling won't ever go away.
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I'm not really familiar with how the forum works but I have 3 days under my belt now after going about 9 years on the stuff and when I finally broke down how bad it had gotten it was definitely time to give it up cold turkey.
I have a long way to go but if I can do it I know anyone can. I could easily put away a whole can just working 1 day at my desk not to mention part of another one after getting home.
This is the hardest thing I've had to do and I just really need help staying committed and focused on the benefits rather than the huge void I feel.
So far my experience has been day 1 was absolutely horrible and was very close to caving. I was very angry and felt like I was underwater and couldn't breath. I was focused on flushing my body so I drank a lot of water. Gum a seeds don't really do much for me, my thing is herbal substitutes and toothpicks. If I were to do it again I would probably start my quit on the weekend where I could sleep the hours away instead of a Sunday evening/Monday but o well. The workout that day was rage fulled and helped except I always dipped after the gym. I almost caved but pushed through with the big picture in mind.
Day 2 was much better. Of course I'm thinking about it all of the time but not nearly as much.
Day 3 and toxins are almost out of my body. I could actually get some work done. A very proud feeling of not having nicotine in my body anymore as I write this post. I've always been into healthy living but just couldn't get over this huge vice.
My tips are to get past day 1 knowing day 2 will be 2x better and day 3 3x better. Workout. Drink water to flush toxins. Get Smokey Mountain. Increased appetite not a big issue for me, I can still maintain restricted calories. Also I can't go without coffee even though that's everyone's trigger. I don't drink but I'd imagine that needs to be given up for the time being.
I need reassurance now that as I go on life stops being about what the good ol days were like. I have such a romantic idea of just myself and my dip and everything is wonderful. I'm sure everyone used to love their dip also but I feel so empty and hopeless and feel like that feeling won't ever go away.
Excellent start! For the support you need, go to the August 2016 quit group and post roll with those quitters every day. They are where you are in making the transition from using addict too free addict.
For right now, drink lots of water and exercise til you drop. Then read this site for information and inspiration.
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ABOUT FUCKING TIME!!!!
'clap' 'clap' 'clap'
Electronic cigarettes will now be regulated much like tobacco cigarettes, which also bans their sale to children, according to a new federal rule issued Thursday
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli ... /83951786/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2016/05/05/feds-expected-announce-final-e-cigarette-rule-could-nearly-ban-them/83951786/)
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ABOUT FUCKING TIME!!!!
'clap' 'clap' 'clap'
Electronic cigarettes will now be regulated much like tobacco cigarettes, which also bans their sale to children, according to a new federal rule issued Thursday
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli ... /83951786/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2016/05/05/feds-expected-announce-final-e-cigarette-rule-could-nearly-ban-them/83951786/)
The sad part is how many kids have got the experience of wanting to smoke for real already. There smoking all kinds of shit in those ecigs!
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ABOUT FUCKING TIME!!!!
'clap' 'clap' 'clap'
Electronic cigarettes will now be regulated much like tobacco cigarettes, which also bans their sale to children, according to a new federal rule issued Thursday
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli ... /83951786/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2016/05/05/feds-expected-announce-final-e-cigarette-rule-could-nearly-ban-them/83951786/)
The sad part is how many kids have got the experience of wanting to smoke for real already. There smoking all kinds of shit in those ecigs!
Biggest effing problem we have in the Middle School I work at. Kids think it's ok but yet they still hide it. Now when I do rounds I have to check out the bathrooms to see if any of them little shits are vaping or not. If only those little shits knew what the hell they are setting themselves up for.
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I quite this week, Thursday the 5th was my first day without. Having dipped for 30+ years I'm making this the last time I ever have to quite. I came across KillTheCan by accident while goggling reasons to stay clean. It was the second best thing (after quitting!) that I've done this week! Just reading some of the posts and getting a better understanding of symptoms of stopping is a great help. I was not sure what was meant by "the fob" but I sure ass hell do now!!!! So, I logged in as a member on this site and plan to use it daily for support. Mid-way through day 2 and I can tell you it feels like the biggest challenge of my life. So many triggers. Someone in a blog post stated something to the effect that if you slip up and have one, you've wasted the pain you have already endured. Amen brother! Holding steady......
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I quite this week, Thursday the 5th was my first day without. Having dipped for 30+ years I'm making this the last time I ever have to quite. I came across KillTheCan by accident while goggling reasons to stay clean. It was the second best thing (after quitting!) that I've done this week! Just reading some of the posts and getting a better understanding of symptoms of stopping is a great help. I was not sure what was meant by "the fob" but I sure ass hell do now!!!! So, I logged in as a member on this site and plan to use it daily for support. Mid-way through day 2 and I can tell you it feels like the biggest challenge of my life. So many triggers. Someone in a blog post stated something to the effect that if you slip up and have one, you've wasted the pain you have already endured. Amen brother! Holding steady......
Hey j-heff,
It looks like no one responded to you the other day here - I think the introductions page gets watched a little more closely.
Anyway, welcome - I hope you're still going strong. You should go to the August HOF group and start "posting roll" there daily. Basically, you check in every morning and make a promise not to use nicotine in any form for 24 hours. It will keep you accountable to your word and you'll have a group of guys who are going through the exact same thing (I'm on day 6) that can offer support.
topic/11604982/67/#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11604982/67/#new)
Feel free to PM me if you need anything
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I quite this week, Thursday the 5th was my first day without. Having dipped for 30+ years I'm making this the last time I ever have to quite. I came across KillTheCan by accident while goggling reasons to stay clean. It was the second best thing (after quitting!) that I've done this week! Just reading some of the posts and getting a better understanding of symptoms of stopping is a great help. I was not sure what was meant by "the fob" but I sure ass hell do now!!!! So, I logged in as a member on this site and plan to use it daily for support. Mid-way through day 2 and I can tell you it feels like the biggest challenge of my life. So many triggers. Someone in a blog post stated something to the effect that if you slip up and have one, you've wasted the pain you have already endured. Amen brother! Holding steady......
lol I found this site googling the "fog" symptoms
I found better help here than with anyone in the medical profession. Mainly because these quitters here are straight shooters and will tell you the truth and not what you want to hear.
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Hello everyone I took my last dip and now I'm having some fits this site has helped me so far reading through it. I don't know how to join a group yet. The thing that's really getting me right now is the feeling of it in my mouth. I have multiple sclerosis and don't want to add cancer to that I need all the help I can get.
Thank you
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I have put the can down today am having a rough time any suggestions I am trying to keep busy. This site has helped my mind keep off of it for now. I don't know how to join a group yet.
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I have put the can down today am having a rough time any suggestions I am trying to keep busy. This site has helped my mind keep off of it for now. I don't know how to join a group yet.
Welcome and congrats on your decision:
Here is your quit group August 2016 (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11604982/81/)
also check out the Welcome Center (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/55560/)
Every time you get a crave, get on KTC, read up there is a wealth of quit knowledge here.
Also check out LIVE CHAT
Idaho
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Stay strong, Harconan!!! I am in day 7 of my quit and would not have made it this far without the support of KTC. I honestly mean it. The brothers on this site will help look out for you and provide support when needed. Hang in there, everyone tells us it will get better and I believe it. And don't fall prey to the Nic, its very clever and will lead you to believe your kicking it, when all of a sudden you find yourself in a major battle! Do as the vet's recommend, drink lots of H2O and stay busy, and stay connected to the group!
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Have any of you guys tried Jack Link's jerky chew as an alternative to dip? I just ordered some and was wondering if anyone had tried it as a replacement?
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Have any of you guys tried Jack Link's jerky chew as an alternative to dip? I just ordered some and was wondering if anyone had tried it as a replacement?
I have not tried that. I've used the Oregon Mint Snuff and recently got some Smokey Mountain. The Mint snuff is not at all the same texture as real chew, but it makes your breath smell good. The Smokey Mountain is very similar in texture and the straight flavor is very close to real. If you go to the Smokey Mountain web-site, they will "give you" 5 free cans. I put "give you" in quotes because they charged $10 SH when it only cost $3 in shipping. I find it hard to believe stuffing 5 cans in a padded envelope requires $7 worth of labor.
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Have any of you guys tried Jack Link's jerky chew as an alternative to dip? I just ordered some and was wondering if anyone had tried it as a replacement?
I have not tried that. I've used the Oregon Mint Snuff and recently got some Smokey Mountain. The Mint snuff is not at all the same texture as real chew, but it makes your breath smell good. The Smokey Mountain is very similar in texture and the straight flavor is very close to real. If you go to the Smokey Mountain web-site, they will "give you" 5 free cans. I put "give you" in quotes because they charged $10 SH when it only cost $3 in shipping. I find it hard to believe stuffing 5 cans in a padded envelope requires $7 worth of labor.
I tried the jerky chew, not sure if it was Jack Links or not, but it just made me hungry. Didn't really do anything for the craving. I use Smokey Mountain pretty regular when I started out, hardly use it at all now though. Whatever helps get you through it is all that matters.
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Just recently quit almost 5 weeks ago (31 days) after 8 years off and on.. Never thought I'd find myself following something like this but it's time to do this for good and this forum has helped so much. everything on what to expect after quitting was spot on. My anxiety is through the roof and find it hard to do anything at times. But the urge to chew is gone for the most part. Never thought something like that can alter your body to the point when you stop its torture. I look forward to counting the days into the hundreds. Motivating others and staying motivated myself! 'Sno'
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Just recently quit almost 5 weeks ago (31 days) after 8 years off and on.. Never thought I'd find myself following something like this but it's time to do this for good and this forum has helped so much. everything on what to expect after quitting was spot on. My anxiety is through the roof and find it hard to do anything at times. But the urge to chew is gone for the most part. Never thought something like that can alter your body to the point when you stop its torture. I look forward to counting the days into the hundreds. Motivating others and staying motivated myself! 'Sno'
Welcome Smitty, glad you found the site after being solo for a month!
You should check out the "Introductions" board and post up there with some background - will let other quitters get to know you and will help you keep track of your progress. The "general discussions" board doesn't get as much traffic, so your posts might get missed here.
You'll also need to start "posting roll" with the July pre-HOf group (based on your quit date). It's a daily promise not to use any nicotine product. Your group will help hold you accountable, offer support and expect you to so the same. You post roll by going into the "Quit Group" board and finding July pre - HOF. There will be instructions and people to help you with that there.
Roll seems silly at first, but it helps hold you accountable to your word and is considered price of admission for support on the site.
Good luck man! I'm actually fewer days quit than you, but happy to help any way I can.
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Where do the 2014 and 2015 classes post their roll call?
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Where do the 2014 and 2015 classes post their roll call?
click on 2014 quit groups and 2015 quit groups in the quitter group section and the tabs will open up for the individual months in each year
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Where do the 2014 and 2015 classes post their roll call?
click on 2014 quit groups and 2015 quit groups in the quitter group section and the tabs will open up for the individual months in each year
I only see 2007 to 2013 when I click quit groups. Weird.
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Where do the 2014 and 2015 classes post their roll call?
click on 2014 quit groups and 2015 quit groups in the quitter group section and the tabs will open up for the individual months in each year
I only see 2007 to 2013 when I click quit groups. Weird.
forum/55566/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/55566/)
2015:
forum/4224647/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/4224647/)
2014:
forum/4209147/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/4209147/)
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Wow...
http://deadsp.in/dulrJIy (http://deadsp.in/dulrJIy)
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Where do the 2014 and 2015 classes post their roll call?
click on 2014 quit groups and 2015 quit groups in the quitter group section and the tabs will open up for the individual months in each year
I only see 2007 to 2013 when I click quit groups. Weird.
forum/55566/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/55566/)
2015:
forum/4224647/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/4224647/)
2014:
forum/4209147/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/4209147/)
When I click those it says
Access Denied
Error Code: 7002:1816345
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Wow...
http://deadsp.in/dulrJIy (http://deadsp.in/dulrJIy)
Wow is right. Not sure what to think about that.
On one hand, fuck Big Tobacco and the horse they rode in on.
On the other, it was Gwynn's choice to use products that cause cancer. I'm not necessarily a fan the law suit.
Chewie
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Where do the 2014 and 2015 classes post their roll call?
click on 2014 quit groups and 2015 quit groups in the quitter group section and the tabs will open up for the individual months in each year
I only see 2007 to 2013 when I click quit groups. Weird.
forum/55566/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/55566/)
2015:
forum/4224647/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/4224647/)
2014:
forum/4209147/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/4209147/)
When I click those it says
Access Denied
Error Code: 7002:1816345
Mike are you logged in? But I am guessing that a admin needs to help.. sorry
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Wow...
http://deadsp.in/dulrJIy (http://deadsp.in/dulrJIy)
Wow is right. Not sure what to think about that.
On one hand, fuck Big Tobacco and the horse they rode in on.
On the other, it was Gwynn's choice to use products that cause cancer. I'm not necessarily a fan the law suit.
Chewie
I'm not a fan either and no way in hell they win.
Maybe they are just looking to bring awareness to the highly addictive nature of chew / dip? I can get with that...
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There can never be enough awareness of how that shit WILL kill you.
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Wow...
http://deadsp.in/dulrJIy (http://deadsp.in/dulrJIy)
Wow is right. Not sure what to think about that.
On one hand, fuck Big Tobacco and the horse they rode in on.
On the other, it was Gwynn's choice to use products that cause cancer. I'm not necessarily a fan the law suit.
Chewie
I'm not a fan either and no way in hell they win.
Maybe they are just looking to bring awareness to the highly addictive nature of chew / dip? I can get with that...
I don't think they're trying to bring awareness to the addictiveness of chewing tobacco I think they're are trying to cash in on a loved ones death.
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Pretty confused how this site works! Only on my phone where do I post where people will reply with support? Day 2
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Taking this moment to thank all those who have served our country past and present. Those that made it home, never made it home (MIA), or died in the course of action. You will never be forgotten! Thanks you for your sacrifice and all you have given! And Welcome home!!!
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Pretty confused how this site works! Only on my phone where do I post where people will reply with support? Day 2
Hi Matty
Your quit group is located at topic/11649440/1/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11649440/1/)
Visit that link and post your situation and all that good stuff. This is your new home. You can rant there, say hello, you will post roll daily so your group can hold you accountable as well as you holding them accountable. posting roll daily is your only price you have to pay for admission to this site. Not a bad deal right?
Get to know your brothers and sisters of quit. Exchange numbers with folks and when the chip;s are down or the suck really sucks, give them a call and chat. Do what you need to do to keep that shit out of your lips for another 24 hours. We do it one day at a time here brother.
If you ever need anything give me a PM and we will go from there.
Take care and stay quit man!!!
P.S. I understand the confusion. Just stick with it. It will come real quickly to you. And I know there is some links here somewhere to teach you how to post roll on your phone but Im not sure how. Just go to your group I posted and say your name - day 1 and your promise not to use nicotine in ANY form today and say pick me up please.
P.P.S When we say no nic in any form, that means NONE. No Gum, lozenges, patches, vapes or anything. Chantix and valium or zanax are sometimes prescribed by doctors and that is cool but NO NIC EVER!!! It would be disrespectful to us quitters who are nic free.
Take care bud!!
Ray
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Pretty confused how this site works! Only on my phone where do I post where people will reply with support? Day 2
Matty, welcome to quit!
2 days is a good start.
Go to the September 2016 quit group (topic/11649440/15/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11649440/15/)
Say hello, post there every morning. You will see a bunch of quitters who have been at it for a while, plus a select few new quitters like yourself.
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Wow...
http://deadsp.in/dulrJIy (http://deadsp.in/dulrJIy)
Wow is right. Not sure what to think about that.
On one hand, fuck Big Tobacco and the horse they rode in on.
On the other, it was Gwynn's choice to use products that cause cancer. I'm not necessarily a fan the law suit.
Chewie
I'm not a fan either and no way in hell they win.
Maybe they are just looking to bring awareness to the highly addictive nature of chew / dip? I can get with that...
I don't think they're trying to bring awareness to the addictiveness of chewing tobacco I think they're are trying to cash in on a loved ones death.
While I like the attention brought to the dangers of smokeless tobacco, the truth is that I was taught in 7th grade health class back in 1979 that this stuff might cause me to die should I use it. I ignored those warnings on my own and I am dealing with the consequences now. I hope that they are stressing this harder in health class these days but I sort of doubt it. When I was in junior high the health teacher was considered a joke position - I think because we were all in 7th grade and we were all going to live forever and be rock stars...
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Wow...
http://deadsp.in/dulrJIy (http://deadsp.in/dulrJIy)
Wow is right. Not sure what to think about that.
On one hand, fuck Big Tobacco and the horse they rode in on.
On the other, it was Gwynn's choice to use products that cause cancer. I'm not necessarily a fan the law suit.
Chewie
I'm not a fan either and no way in hell they win.
Maybe they are just looking to bring awareness to the highly addictive nature of chew / dip? I can get with that...
I don't think they're trying to bring awareness to the addictiveness of chewing tobacco I think they're are trying to cash in on a loved ones death.
While I like the attention brought to the dangers of smokeless tobacco, the truth is that I was taught in 7th grade health class back in 1979 that this stuff might cause me to die should I use it. I ignored those warnings on my own and I am dealing with the consequences now. I hope that they are stressing this harder in health class these days but I sort of doubt it. When I was in junior high the health teacher was considered a joke position - I think because we were all in 7th grade and we were all going to live forever and be rock stars...
I think suing big tobacco is a bunch of fucking bullshit to be quite frank. One chose to use tobacco. It is their fault. No one twisted their arms. And one cashing in on a loved one gone, bullshit!!! .
So in other words can I sue McDonalds and Hardees for making me the fat fuck I am today? Can I sue Hustler for me getting carpel tunnel by the time I was 18?
Todays society is a bunch of sue happy fucks that need their fucking teeth kicked down the gullets until they choke and die! Fucking burden on the justice system to be honest.
And for the record, i have lost NUMEROUS loved ones to tobacco. I had 9 family members die in 10 months back in 2006 from tobacco. I did not sue a once. It was their choice to use, and they paid the ultimate price.
Ill shut up now.
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Wow...
http://deadsp.in/dulrJIy (http://deadsp.in/dulrJIy)
Wow is right. Not sure what to think about that.
On one hand, fuck Big Tobacco and the horse they rode in on.
On the other, it was Gwynn's choice to use products that cause cancer. I'm not necessarily a fan the law suit.
Chewie
I'm not a fan either and no way in hell they win.
Maybe they are just looking to bring awareness to the highly addictive nature of chew / dip? I can get with that...
I don't think they're trying to bring awareness to the addictiveness of chewing tobacco I think they're are trying to cash in on a loved ones death.
While I like the attention brought to the dangers of smokeless tobacco, the truth is that I was taught in 7th grade health class back in 1979 that this stuff might cause me to die should I use it. I ignored those warnings on my own and I am dealing with the consequences now. I hope that they are stressing this harder in health class these days but I sort of doubt it. When I was in junior high the health teacher was considered a joke position - I think because we were all in 7th grade and we were all going to live forever and be rock stars...
I think suing big tobacco is a bunch of fucking bullshit to be quite frank. One chose to use tobacco. It is their fault. No one twisted their arms. And one cashing in on a loved one gone, bullshit!!! .
So in other words can I sue McDonalds and Hardees for making me the fat fuck I am today? Can I sue Hustler for me getting carpel tunnel by the time I was 18?
Todays society is a bunch of sue happy fucks that need their fucking teeth kicked down the gullets until they choke and die! Fucking burden on the justice system to be honest.
And for the record, i have lost NUMEROUS loved ones to tobacco. I had 9 family members die in 10 months back in 2006 from tobacco. I did not sue a once. It was their choice to use, and they paid the ultimate price.
Ill shut up now.
I personally don't agree with the lawsuit either. Just thought it was interesting. I think the family is barking up the wrong tree if they are looking to cash in. They will get squashed like bugs in court.
Then again, fuck big tobacco and the tin they rode in on. They can sniff and lick a dick.
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Wow...
http://deadsp.in/dulrJIy (http://deadsp.in/dulrJIy)
Wow is right. Not sure what to think about that.
On one hand, fuck Big Tobacco and the horse they rode in on.
On the other, it was Gwynn's choice to use products that cause cancer. I'm not necessarily a fan the law suit.
Chewie
I'm not a fan either and no way in hell they win.
Maybe they are just looking to bring awareness to the highly addictive nature of chew / dip? I can get with that...
I don't think they're trying to bring awareness to the addictiveness of chewing tobacco I think they're are trying to cash in on a loved ones death.
While I like the attention brought to the dangers of smokeless tobacco, the truth is that I was taught in 7th grade health class back in 1979 that this stuff might cause me to die should I use it. I ignored those warnings on my own and I am dealing with the consequences now. I hope that they are stressing this harder in health class these days but I sort of doubt it. When I was in junior high the health teacher was considered a joke position - I think because we were all in 7th grade and we were all going to live forever and be rock stars...
I think suing big tobacco is a bunch of fucking bullshit to be quite frank. One chose to use tobacco. It is their fault. No one twisted their arms. And one cashing in on a loved one gone, bullshit!!! .
So in other words can I sue McDonalds and Hardees for making me the fat fuck I am today? Can I sue Hustler for me getting carpel tunnel by the time I was 18?
Todays society is a bunch of sue happy fucks that need their fucking teeth kicked down the gullets until they choke and die! Fucking burden on the justice system to be honest.
And for the record, i have lost NUMEROUS loved ones to tobacco. I had 9 family members die in 10 months back in 2006 from tobacco. I did not sue a once. It was their choice to use, and they paid the ultimate price.
Ill shut up now.
I personally don't agree with the lawsuit either. Just thought it was interesting. I think the family is barking up the wrong tree if they are looking to cash in. They will get squashed like bugs in court.
Then again, fuck big tobacco and the tin they rode in on. They can sniff and lick a dick.
Since the lawsuit has no personal damages mentioned, I doubt that they are looking to cash in. This sounds like a true case of trying to bring awareness to the subject.
I don't necessarily agree with the lawsuit, but what harm can come from it?
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Hey guys and gals. New member and decided yesterday was my last day to chew. Been chewing a can or 2 a day for 10 years now. I'm trying it cold turkey. I have to if I want to save my marriage. I have been good so far even though it's only been 36 hours. There's a lot of good info here and looking forward to being here.
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Hey guys and gals. New member and decided yesterday was my last day to chew. Been chewing a can or 2 a day for 10 years now. I'm trying it cold turkey. I have to if I want to save my marriage. I have been good so far even though it's only been 36 hours. There's a lot of good info here and looking forward to being here.
Welcome YoYo, glad you found the site!
You should check out the "Introductions" board and post up there with some background - will let other quitters get to know you and will help you keep track of your progress. The "general discussions" board doesn't get as much traffic, so your posts might get missed here.
You'll also need to start "posting roll" with the September pre-HOf group (based on your quit date). It's a daily promise not to use any nicotine product. Your group will help hold you accountable, offer support and expect you to so the same. You post roll by going into the "Quit Group" board and finding September pre - HOF. There will be instructions and people to help you with that there.
Roll seems silly at first, but it helps hold you accountable to your word and is considered price of admission for support on the site.
Good luck man! I'm happy to help any way I can.
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I'm no good with tech, so not sure if I'm in right place. But, I'm pledging today(Day1).
I wrote an intro piece earlier. Anyway, glad I found this group. Yeah, there's post roll instructions, but if there ain't a YouTube video, I'm not gonna pick it up too quickly.
So, to any new "quitters" today: "Nut up and do it."- Mack Bolan, The Executionor, by Don Pendleton.
And to the long haulers, congrats on each new day without shit in your mouth.
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I'm no good with tech, so not sure if I'm in right place. But, I'm pledging today(Day1).
I wrote an intro piece earlier. Anyway, glad I found this group. Yeah, there's post roll instructions, but if there ain't a YouTube video, I'm not gonna pick it up too quickly.
So, to any new "quitters" today: "Nut up and do it."- Mack Bolan, The Executionor, by Don Pendleton.
And to the long haulers, congrats on each new day without shit in your mouth.
Lucky for you there is a YouTube video: Posting Roll (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmDgTPJ6HyM)
Welcome Odin. Time to take your life back.
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I'm no good with tech, so not sure if I'm in right place. But, I'm pledging today(Day1).
I wrote an intro piece earlier. Anyway, glad I found this group. Yeah, there's post roll instructions, but if there ain't a YouTube video, I'm not gonna pick it up too quickly.
So, to any new "quitters" today: "Nut up and do it."- Mack Bolan, The Executionor, by Don Pendleton.
And to the long haulers, congrats on each new day without shit in your mouth.
Lucky for you there is a YouTube video: Posting Roll (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmDgTPJ6HyM)
Welcome Odin. Time to take your life back.
King aint lyin Odin. There are worlds and worlds of support just waiting for you here. All we ask is your daily pledge. I didnt see you on roll. If you want help, PM me your number (Inbox in upper right hand corner) I'll call you and walk you through it.
With the daily pledge - roll call post, you will be welcomed/supported/challenged and held accountable. Without the daily pledge on roll call - well like Willy Wonka said, "You get NOTHING, Good Day Sir!!"
Cmon and join us, as King said take your life back!
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I joined this site in the latter half of 2015 with the intent to quit this stupid habit. It was a long process of trial and error, failure and getting support on this site but today, I am proud to say that tonight is my 100th day of quitting (March 6th).
Although I didn't post roll each day and wasn't a 'good' member of my Feb 2016 quit group, I managed to quit this habit thanks to this awesome website. It is a huge credit to you guys for supporting and helping guys like me to quit (and stay quit).
To all of those on the fence of whether or not to quit; Go ahead and do it. Your first 2-3 weeks will suck but I promise it goes away.
Thanks again to everyone on here.
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I joined this site in the latter half of 2015 with the intent to quit this stupid habit. It was a long process of trial and error, failure and getting support on this site but today, I am proud to say that tonight is my 100th day of quitting (March 6th).
Although I didn't post roll each day and wasn't a 'good' member of my Feb 2016 quit group, I managed to quit this habit thanks to this awesome website. It is a huge credit to you guys for supporting and helping guys like me to quit (and stay quit).
To all of those on the fence of whether or not to quit; Go ahead and do it. Your first 2-3 weeks will suck but I promise it goes away.
Thanks again to everyone on here.
Way to go LTC!!! Huge accomplishment. Keep up the great work. Congrats on 100 days of freedom. Put your feet up today and celebrate. You've earned it.
Chewie
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I've been chewing since I was 15, now at age 20 I want to quit before it becomes a life long habit. Any advice anyone is willing to give would be great. Looked at the website earlier today then thought nahhh and threw one in. Before I got in bed today I looked at myself in the mirror, then went right on my laptop and signed up. I don't wanna be a slave anymore.
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I've been chewing since I was 15, now at age 20 I want to quit before it becomes a life long habit. Any advice anyone is willing to give would be great. Looked at the website earlier today then thought nahhh and threw one in. Before I got in bed today I looked at myself in the mirror, then went right on my laptop and signed up. I don't wanna be a slave anymore.
Welcome 20, you are wise behind you years.
Learn how to post roll, read up and drink a lot of water.
Get seeds, gum, candy, fake chew, or anything that will keep you clean.
We have the tools to help if you are willing to use them
ID Spuds
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YES, e-cigarettes are bad for you.
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The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission has commenced separate proceedings against Social-Lites Pty Ltd and Elusion New Zealand Limited for allegedly making false and misleading claims.
It alleges that from at least August 2015, both online retailers claimed their products did not contain carcinogens or toxic chemicals and did not contain any of the chemicals found in conventional cigarettes.
Independent tests commissioned by the ACCC found e-cigarette products sold by both companies in fact did contain carcinogens and toxic chemicals found in conventional cigarettes, including formaldehyde, acetaldehyde and acrolein.
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It's been 2. Months and 20 days since I decided to kick this nasty ass habit in the nuts. My receding gumlines and medical problems told me enough was enough. And plus I want to be around long enough to see my kids graduate and live their life. Plus my young son has Autism and I want to be around to guide him through life. Before I quit dipping I quit drinking. And I wish I would have stopped dipping first. But the hell I'm going through I'm taking it one step at a time . If I can do it anybody can. 'frazz1' nicotine out your life
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It's been 2. Months and 20 days since I decided to kick this nasty ass habit in the nuts. My receding gumlines and medical problems told me enough was enough. And plus I want to be around long enough to see my kids graduate and live their life. Plus my young son has Autism and I want to be around to guide him through life. Before I quit dipping I quit drinking. And I wish I would have stopped dipping first. But the hell I'm going through I'm taking it one step at a time . If I can do it anybody can. 'frazz1' nicotine out your life
You're quit date says May 3 or 4. That's only a month and half ago? Also, it's not a habit; it's an addiction.
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Hello everyone 5 days into quiting been dipping since I was 14 and I'm 39 now never knew I would be this hard .think if orbwhen the dry throat and guess sinus drainage stops it'll be a little easier for me . 'fireman'
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Hello everyone 5 days into quiting been dipping since I was 14 and I'm 39 now never knew I would be this hard .think if orbwhen the dry throat and guess sinus drainage stops it'll be a little easier for me . 'fireman'
Welcome Shane....if you quit five days ago, you need to head over to the September 16 quitter group and join up with them. The brotherhood and accountability this place will give won't make your quit any easier, but you'll be amazed at the amount of support you'll receive.
Just in case you're having trouble navigating.... it's HERE.... (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11649440/176/#new)
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Hello from the new guy.
I quit on June 19th, 5 days free and it was a rough week, but I made it! I found this site and it definitely helped me this week. I am just registering and starting in here so hope to find some folks that are same time quitters as me and we can help each other out through this!
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Hello from the new guy.
I quit on June 19th, 5 days free and it was a rough week, but I made it! I found this site and it definitely helped me this week. I am just registering and starting in here so hope to find some folks that are same time quitters as me and we can help each other out through this!
Welcome Luke. You've come to the right place. I was you 146 days ago. It does get easier. Make sure you post your promise to quit every day. That is the key to success. You will meet people on here that will help you through this and become your quit brothers and sisters. Don't be afraid to reach out to them.
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Had my teeth examined and cleaned today. Doc said there was nothing Abnormal going on in there so I was good to go. I'm never touching dip or any form of nicotine again 2 months 27 Days clean
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Hey guys, trying to figure this site out? Just quit on June 23rd really on the 22nd but first day sober was the 23rd. Trying to figure out the role call deal. This is it I need your help. Joey
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Hey guys, trying to figure this site out? Just quit on June 23rd really on the 22nd but first day sober was the 23rd. Trying to figure out the role call deal. This is it I need your help. Joey
Welcome Joey! You can find everything you need in the Welcome Center (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/55560/). Just click that link and start reading. If you quit on June 22 then today is the end of day 5 for you! Congrats and you will be in the Sept 2016 group. Get to know them, it will help your quit exponentially!
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Why are users of the patch not welcomed here? I used 2-3 cans a day and need a way to step down. I cannot go cold turkey. Even with the patch I have felt sick and out of sorts (this is day two of not chewing). I love the die hard attitude here and I want to take part, but I hope to be on patches (and not chew) for at least a few months. I need to ween myself off of nicotine, I cannot go cold turkey.
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Why are users of the patch not welcomed here? I used 2-3 cans a day and need a way to step down. I cannot go cold turkey. Even with the patch I have felt sick and out of sorts (this is day two of not chewing). I love the die hard attitude here and I want to take part, but I hope to be on patches (and not chew) for at least a few months. I need to ween myself off of nicotine, I cannot go cold turkey.
Gladiator5000,
Bro I know that it does not make sense in the throws of quitting. I have tried so many times patches, nic gum, you name it man. I have found cold turkey worked well for me for six months, then I mind fucked myself. The difference this time bro for me is it's not just me. I am going to do my best to be part of this community to support each other. It sucks it's only like day 7 or 8 for me. You can do it, don't sell yourself short.
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Why are users of the patch not welcomed here? I used 2-3 cans a day and need a way to step down. I cannot go cold turkey. Even with the patch I have felt sick and out of sorts (this is day two of not chewing). I love the die hard attitude here and I want to take part, but I hope to be on patches (and not chew) for at least a few months. I need to ween myself off of nicotine, I cannot go cold turkey.
When you are nicotine free you can post roll here. Remember that you're not addicted to chew - you're addicted to nicotine. Swapping out the chew for a patch or some gum doesn't really solve the problem.
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Why are users of the patch not welcomed here? I used 2-3 cans a day and need a way to step down. I cannot go cold turkey. Even with the patch I have felt sick and out of sorts (this is day two of not chewing). I love the die hard attitude here and I want to take part, but I hope to be on patches (and not chew) for at least a few months. I need to ween myself off of nicotine, I cannot go cold turkey.
Gladiator5000,
Bro I know that it does not make sense in the throws of quitting. I have tried so many times patches, nic gum, you name it man. I have found cold turkey worked well for me for six months, then I mind fucked myself. The difference this time bro for me is it's not just me. I am going to do my best to be part of this community to support each other. It sucks it's only like day 7 or 8 for me. You can do it, don't sell yourself short.
Gladiator, if you were quitting crack, would you wean off by doing 6 lines of powder a day for a month, then 5 lines a day for a month, etc.? Then when that didn't work, do a couple bags of heroin a day, just to make sure you didn't crash too hard? Quit alcohol by weaning from liquor only to drink an 18 pack of beer?
It's all the same poison bud, regardless of the method by which you choose to consume. You are coddling yourself if you feel like you can't quit cold turkey. You can. Nobody has ever died from nicotine withdrawal. Also, you'll be miserable during your wean and then be miserable again when you finally rip that patch off.
The only way to quit nicotine is to quit nicotine. Period. It might sound harsh, but it's not impossible, and the benefits are immeasurable. Dig deep, find some intestinal fortitude and just quit.
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Why are users of the patch not welcomed here? I used 2-3 cans a day and need a way to step down. I cannot go cold turkey. Even with the patch I have felt sick and out of sorts (this is day two of not chewing). I love the die hard attitude here and I want to take part, but I hope to be on patches (and not chew) for at least a few months. I need to ween myself off of nicotine, I cannot go cold turkey.
Gladiator5000,
Bro I know that it does not make sense in the throws of quitting. I have tried so many times patches, nic gum, you name it man. I have found cold turkey worked well for me for six months, then I mind fucked myself. The difference this time bro for me is it's not just me. I am going to do my best to be part of this community to support each other. It sucks it's only like day 7 or 8 for me. You can do it, don't sell yourself short.
Gladiator, if you were quitting crack, would you wean off by doing 6 lines of powder a day for a month, then 5 lines a day for a month, etc.? Then when that didn't work, do a couple bags of heroin a day, just to make sure you didn't crash too hard? Quit alcohol by weaning from liquor only to drink an 18 pack of beer?
It's all the same poison bud, regardless of the method by which you choose to consume. You are coddling yourself if you feel like you can't quit cold turkey. You can. Nobody has ever died from nicotine withdrawal. Also, you'll be miserable during your wean and then be miserable again when you finally rip that patch off.
The only way to quit nicotine is to quit nicotine. Period. It might sound harsh, but it's not impossible, and the benefits are immeasurable. Dig deep, find some intestinal fortitude and just quit.
^^ Well Said! I used to chew nicotine gum in between cans of cope. Then I said I would cut back, quit next week, after this can or pack of gum for years...
I am almost 2 years quit after 18 years using, this system works, get on board and we can help!
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Hello, name is Shawn, I am 42 years old, and have been/had been, dipping for approximately 30 yrs. I, chewed approximately 2 cans per day. I recently quit on Saturday afternoon, July 2, 2016, at approximately 3pm. I have not had a dip since, and so far, it hasn't been too horrible. I have used mints, sunflower seeds, and the organic chew to help with cravings.
I have noticed that the first two nights, I have had a very hard time getting to sleep. I know this is a side effect, but was wanting to know if anyone else is having this issue, and if so, how long did it last?
I will keep everyone posted, thanks for the wonderful site...It has been really helpful.
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Hello, name is Shawn, I am 42 years old, and have been/had been, dipping for approximately 30 yrs. I, chewed approximately 2 cans per day. I recently quit on Saturday afternoon, July 2, 2016, at approximately 3pm. I have not had a dip since, and so far, it hasn't been too horrible. I have used mints, sunflower seeds, and the organic chew to help with cravings.
I have noticed that the first two nights, I have had a very hard time getting to sleep. I know this is a side effect, but was wanting to know if anyone else is having this issue, and if so, how long did it last?
I will keep everyone posted, thanks for the wonderful site...It has been really helpful.
First of all, great job on the desire to save your life. Second of all, I'm glad you came here, and we will address the sleep soon.
We need you in our team. Please find the group titled "October 2016" in quit groups and introduce yourself there. You are now on day 4 of your quit. These guys in this group are in a similar stage of their quit, and will help you while you help them.
Honestly, I didn't sleep the same for a week or two. The first ten days coming off this stuff is strange on the body. Bear with it, as nothing you are dealing with now is permanent.
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Why are users of the patch not welcomed here? I used 2-3 cans a day and need a way to step down. I cannot go cold turkey. Even with the patch I have felt sick and out of sorts (this is day two of not chewing). I love the die hard attitude here and I want to take part, but I hope to be on patches (and not chew) for at least a few months. I need to ween myself off of nicotine, I cannot go cold turkey.
Gladiator5000,
Bro I know that it does not make sense in the throws of quitting. I have tried so many times patches, nic gum, you name it man. I have found cold turkey worked well for me for six months, then I mind fucked myself. The difference this time bro for me is it's not just me. I am going to do my best to be part of this community to support each other. It sucks it's only like day 7 or 8 for me. You can do it, don't sell yourself short.
Gladiator, if you were quitting crack, would you wean off by doing 6 lines of powder a day for a month, then 5 lines a day for a month, etc.? Then when that didn't work, do a couple bags of heroin a day, just to make sure you didn't crash too hard? Quit alcohol by weaning from liquor only to drink an 18 pack of beer?
It's all the same poison bud, regardless of the method by which you choose to consume. You are coddling yourself if you feel like you can't quit cold turkey. You can. Nobody has ever died from nicotine withdrawal. Also, you'll be miserable during your wean and then be miserable again when you finally rip that patch off.
The only way to quit nicotine is to quit nicotine. Period. It might sound harsh, but it's not impossible, and the benefits are immeasurable. Dig deep, find some intestinal fortitude and just quit.
^^ Well Said! I used to chew nicotine gum in between cans of cope. Then I said I would cut back, quit next week, after this can or pack of gum for years...
I am almost 2 years quit after 18 years using, this system works, get on board and we can help!
Come back in a few months then. Starting date will be when you take the last patch off. Nicotine is the enemy here.
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Hey everyone, Charlie here. I finally made the decision last night that I have had enough. I have been dipping for 27 years, recently over a can and a half a day. I was getting so sick of spitters everywhere, empty cans, worrying about mouth disease, the wife and kids letting me have it (I am quitting for me, not for them). Just sick of it. Today is the actual 1st day and I feel like I am losing my mind. anxiety, racing thoughts, out of it. My mouth is sore from chewing 20 sticks of Wrigley's.
Anyway, just wanted to introduce myself and say hello. If I don't kill someone (haha), I will be back. I will be so glad to be done with this part of life.
Freedom from the spitter!
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Hey everyone, Charlie here. I finally made the decision last night that I have had enough. I have been dipping for 27 years, recently over a can and a half a day. I was getting so sick of spitters everywhere, empty cans, worrying about mouth disease, the wife and kids letting me have it (I am quitting for me, not for them). Just sick of it. Today is the actual 1st day and I feel like I am losing my mind. anxiety, racing thoughts, out of it. My mouth is sore from chewing 20 sticks of Wrigley's.
Anyway, just wanted to introduce myself and say hello. If I don't kill someone (haha), I will be back. I will be so glad to be done with this part of life.
Freedom from the spitter!
Welcome! I was in your shoes just awhile back. Listen to the hall of fame and follow the program! Congrats on quitting today!
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Hey everyone, Charlie here. I finally made the decision last night that I have had enough. I have been dipping for 27 years, recently over a can and a half a day. I was getting so sick of spitters everywhere, empty cans, worrying about mouth disease, the wife and kids letting me have it (I am quitting for me, not for them). Just sick of it. Today is the actual 1st day and I feel like I am losing my mind. anxiety, racing thoughts, out of it. My mouth is sore from chewing 20 sticks of Wrigley's.
Anyway, just wanted to introduce myself and say hello. If I don't kill someone (haha), I will be back. I will be so glad to be done with this part of life.
Freedom from the spitter!
Glad you could make it. Tomorrow please find your way to the October 2016 group and post roll with them. October 2016 is your group and you should be posting your promise to abstain from nicotine each day in this group. Don't worry if you do not know how to post roll. Ask for help and someone will help you. Also, introduce yourself to the group members and develop connections with them. These guys will be a great resource for you because they are experiencing exactly what you are experiencing right now.
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Why are users of the patch not welcomed here? I used 2-3 cans a day and need a way to step down. I cannot go cold turkey. Even with the patch I have felt sick and out of sorts (this is day two of not chewing). I love the die hard attitude here and I want to take part, but I hope to be on patches (and not chew) for at least a few months. I need to ween myself off of nicotine, I cannot go cold turkey.
Gladiator5000,
Bro I know that it does not make sense in the throws of quitting. I have tried so many times patches, nic gum, you name it man. I have found cold turkey worked well for me for six months, then I mind fucked myself. The difference this time bro for me is it's not just me. I am going to do my best to be part of this community to support each other. It sucks it's only like day 7 or 8 for me. You can do it, don't sell yourself short.
Gladiator, if you were quitting crack, would you wean off by doing 6 lines of powder a day for a month, then 5 lines a day for a month, etc.? Then when that didn't work, do a couple bags of heroin a day, just to make sure you didn't crash too hard? Quit alcohol by weaning from liquor only to drink an 18 pack of beer?
It's all the same poison bud, regardless of the method by which you choose to consume. You are coddling yourself if you feel like you can't quit cold turkey. You can. Nobody has ever died from nicotine withdrawal. Also, you'll be miserable during your wean and then be miserable again when you finally rip that patch off.
The only way to quit nicotine is to quit nicotine. Period. It might sound harsh, but it's not impossible, and the benefits are immeasurable. Dig deep, find some intestinal fortitude and just quit.
^^ Well Said! I used to chew nicotine gum in between cans of cope. Then I said I would cut back, quit next week, after this can or pack of gum for years...
I am almost 2 years quit after 18 years using, this system works, get on board and we can help!
Come back in a few months then. Starting date will be when you take the last patch off. Nicotine is the enemy here.
Hey Gladiator. I agree with what everyone also told you and I wanted to make a separate point nobody raised. I never felt like an addict until withdrawal hit. I honestly never considered myself to be addicted until I felt withdrawal like a drug addict feels it. Withdrawal changed me and opened my eyes about how nicotine controlled me and how much damage it inflicted on my brain. Maybe you need to feel withdrawal so you can teach yourself how to heal? Just food for thought...
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Why are users of the patch not welcomed here? I used 2-3 cans a day and need a way to step down. I cannot go cold turkey. Even with the patch I have felt sick and out of sorts (this is day two of not chewing). I love the die hard attitude here and I want to take part, but I hope to be on patches (and not chew) for at least a few months. I need to ween myself off of nicotine, I cannot go cold turkey.
Gladiator5000,
Bro I know that it does not make sense in the throws of quitting. I have tried so many times patches, nic gum, you name it man. I have found cold turkey worked well for me for six months, then I mind fucked myself. The difference this time bro for me is it's not just me. I am going to do my best to be part of this community to support each other. It sucks it's only like day 7 or 8 for me. You can do it, don't sell yourself short.
Gladiator, if you were quitting crack, would you wean off by doing 6 lines of powder a day for a month, then 5 lines a day for a month, etc.? Then when that didn't work, do a couple bags of heroin a day, just to make sure you didn't crash too hard? Quit alcohol by weaning from liquor only to drink an 18 pack of beer?
It's all the same poison bud, regardless of the method by which you choose to consume. You are coddling yourself if you feel like you can't quit cold turkey. You can. Nobody has ever died from nicotine withdrawal. Also, you'll be miserable during your wean and then be miserable again when you finally rip that patch off.
The only way to quit nicotine is to quit nicotine. Period. It might sound harsh, but it's not impossible, and the benefits are immeasurable. Dig deep, find some intestinal fortitude and just quit.
^^ Well Said! I used to chew nicotine gum in between cans of cope. Then I said I would cut back, quit next week, after this can or pack of gum for years...
I am almost 2 years quit after 18 years using, this system works, get on board and we can help!
Come back in a few months then. Starting date will be when you take the last patch off. Nicotine is the enemy here.
Hey Gladiator. I agree with what everyone also told you and I wanted to make a separate point nobody raised. I never felt like an addict until withdrawal hit. I honestly never considered myself to be addicted until I felt withdrawal like a drug addict feels it. Withdrawal changed me and opened my eyes about how nicotine controlled me and how much damage it inflicted on my brain. Maybe you need to feel withdrawal so you can teach yourself how to heal? Just food for thought...
Guess this clown was as serious about his stickers
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Hey, everyone. I'm Jay and I haven't had a chew since March 8th of this year. I chewed for about 10 years. I quit because I noticed that my soft palate was inflamed and made the mistake of googling it, to try to get an answer as to why it looked like that. The internet had me completely convinced that I had oral cancer, so I immediately threw all my chew away and made an appointment with the doctor. He didn't seem overly concerned by the inflammation, but did point out that I had excessive leukoplakia (white patches) on the inside of my cheek and he said that if it didn't go away in a few weeks, to come back for a biopsy... BIOPSY?!!?!?! Wth, I'm only 38! Well I went to my dentist to get a second opinion, and he freaked out about the inflammation and told me that I needed to see an oral surgeon right away. My anxiety was now in full swing. By the time I was able to get into see the oral surgeon (a week later) the inflammation on my soft palate was gone, but the area where I most frequently held my dip, became red and some of the skin had eroded. Anyway, the oral surgeon did a biopsy and scheduled me back for the results in 2 weeks. Fortunately, he was kind enough to call me 2 days later to tell me that it was just irritation. The biopsy report read: Lichenoid Mucositis. I never had anxiety before this, but even now, 4 months later, I look in my mouth every day for anything weird and I still have some redness that is sensitive to spicy foods and toothpaste. I don't like to preach, but if you're thinking about quitting, I highly recommend it. I don't know any of you, but I promise you that you do NOT want to know what it's like to go through what I went through. I'm still messed up from it, to the point where I'm talking to a therapist about my health anxiety. I'd also like to give a little advice, if I may - any issues that arise in your mouth, whether you chew still, or not, do not, under any circumstances, google your symptoms, because it will take you to a very dark place. Do, however, make an appointment with your doctor or better yet, your dentist. Another thing, check your mouth for changes once a month, as oral cancer is very treatable if caught early. Thanks for reading.
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Hey Guys, Ive been dipping for about 3 months now and honestly I dont think I can feel the dependence or the addiction factors of it. I was introduced by my old college roomate adn it wasnt serious, a dip to end the night usually. I did that for a few weeks and then it was summer, I told myself I was never gona go out and pay for the stuff. I didint dip for about a month to a month and a half and then i caved, I bought a can of cope wintergreen. I dipped 5 times in alternating sides one night then another 3-4 the next night. My gums were so tore up and I now have mouth ulcers and a sore throat. I know this shit isnt good for me and im officially DONE... Ive been done for 3 days now and I still have a sore throat and am taking really good care of my mouth with baking soda and gargling saltwater and the ulcers seem to be getting better. My main question would be, since I never really did it for a long long time, there wouldnt be a chance it would turn into cancer? Did the ulcers and the sore throat come from overdipping those 2 days and it came about then? I would love the help guys!
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Hey Guys, Ive been dipping for about 3 months now and honestly I dont think I can feel the dependence or the addiction factors of it. I was introduced by my old college roomate adn it wasnt serious, a dip to end the night usually. I did that for a few weeks and then it was summer, I told myself I was never gona go out and pay for the stuff. I didint dip for about a month to a month and a half and then i caved, I bought a can of cope wintergreen. I dipped 5 times in alternating sides one night then another 3-4 the next night. My gums were so tore up and I now have mouth ulcers and a sore throat. I know this shit isnt good for me and im officially DONE... Ive been done for 3 days now and I still have a sore throat and am taking really good care of my mouth with baking soda and gargling saltwater and the ulcers seem to be getting better. My main question would be, since I never really did it for a long long time, there wouldnt be a chance it would turn into cancer? Did the ulcers and the sore throat come from overdipping those 2 days and it came about then? I would love the help guys!
CJ,
I'm not a doctor, but I do know that tobacco is a carcinogen....by it's very nature it is an irritant. It's quite possible you inflamed your gums and cheek by "overdipping" as you put it. I also know that you may not "feel" that you're addicted, but let's try this test. You go for a week and tell me if you're feeling any withdrawal symptoms, like craving a dip. You see, nicotine is HIGHLY addictive, (think cocaine-level addictive), so it doesn't take much if you're like the vast majority of users. Glad you quit, but if you're serious about staying quit, head on over to October 2016 (KTC groups quitters by the month they will hit 100 days quit), and post up your promise that you're done with nicotine/tobacco. If you quit 3 days ago, you're now on day four. Congrats on the decision (if it sticks)!
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Thanks for the response caveman,I really appreciate it, I know the buzz is great but when I look at the long term problems I just cant tell myself that dip is anything thats worth it. Im serious about the quit, i wana do this for myself, I wana be healthy
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Hey Guys, I have only been dipping for 3 months on and off, alltogether ive gone through less than 4 cans... I dipped 5 times one day, then 3 the next, i woke up with ulsers all over my mouth and a sore throat with white in the back, its been 2 days and i feel like with proper dental care the mouth is still tender but healing, the white gums in the front are starting to look better, should i be worried?
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I've been dipping for 10 months now (I did for one summer in college playing video games with my friends). I'm still on the pouches but I've gotten a strange routine..I only dip every time I'm on the shitter, so now Every time I sit on the toilet I've gotta have a pouch in. I leave my dip next to my toilet too. I know it might sound kinda weird but it's prolly been months since I've taken a dump without a pouch in my mouth. Anyone else have this issue? Any suggestions? It's been really hard for me to try to quit when I've so strongly associated it with a natural bodily process
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I've been dipping for 10 months now (I did for one summer in college playing video games with my friends). I'm still on the pouches but I've gotten a strange routine..I only dip every time I'm on the shitter, so now Every time I sit on the toilet I've gotta have a pouch in. I leave my dip next to my toilet too. I know it might sound kinda weird but it's prolly been months since I've taken a dump without a pouch in my mouth. Anyone else have this issue? Any suggestions? It's been really hard for me to try to quit when I've so strongly associated it with a natural bodily process
Chauncey, I used to dip every time I was on the shitter too. Also every time I took a shower, also nearly every time I drove, also when I'd play video games, also every time I stayed up late, also every time my wife left the house, also every time I went to an outdoor sporting event....
These are called triggers, but quitters much more experienced than I will tell you that life is a trigger. Good for you that for now you've limited it to the shitter. I will tell you that with near 100% certainty, that will change. Not all at once, but you will slowly start to add triggers to your dip plan. It's the natural progression of addiction.
My advice is to quit right now. If you don't, 20 years from now you'll be wondering where the time went. Trust me on that.
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Hey Guys, I have only been dipping for 3 months on and off, alltogether ive gone through less than 4 cans... I dipped 5 times one day, then 3 the next, i woke up with ulsers all over my mouth and a sore throat with white in the back, its been 2 days and i feel like with proper dental care the mouth is still tender but healing, the white gums in the front are starting to look better, should i be worried?
You should be very worried. You should be worried that you're headed down a path that will lead to serious health concerns, lies to the people you love, thousands of wasted dollars, addiction and slavery to useless plant. You should be worried that you're starting a path that those of us here would give about anything to go back in time to stop.
Your immediate health concerns are almost certainly temporary, but don't take that as an all clear. It's basically your healthy body starting to acclimate to the form of an addict.
Throw away all of your tobacco, forget you ever tried the shit and never touch it again. Either that, or I'll see you back in here in 10 years... Your call.
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I've been dipping for 10 months now (I did for one summer in college playing video games with my friends). I'm still on the pouches but I've gotten a strange routine..I only dip every time I'm on the shitter, so now Every time I sit on the toilet I've gotta have a pouch in. I leave my dip next to my toilet too. I know it might sound kinda weird but it's prolly been months since I've taken a dump without a pouch in my mouth. Anyone else have this issue? Any suggestions? It's been really hard for me to try to quit when I've so strongly associated it with a natural bodily process
Chauncey, I used to dip every time I was on the shitter too. Also every time I took a shower, also nearly every time I drove, also when I'd play video games, also every time I stayed up late, also every time my wife left the house, also every time I went to an outdoor sporting event....
These are called triggers, but quitters much more experienced than I will tell you that life is a trigger. Good for you that for now you've limited it to the shitter. I will tell you that with near 100% certainty, that will change. Not all at once, but you will slowly start to add triggers to your dip plan. It's the natural progression of addiction.
My advice is to quit right now. If you don't, 20 years from now you'll be wondering where the time went. Trust me on that.
Yep, exactly what King said. "I only dip when I..." is where it starts, but that garbage will seep into just about every aspect of your life until it kills you.
Take that can you have next to the shitter, open it, turn it over into the bowl, flush and never look back.
If you think it's hard to quit when you've associated it with a bodily function, do you think it will get any easier when you've associated it with nearly every damn thing?
The good news is that you CAN quit. If King can do it, if I can do it, you can do it. It sucks at first, but it gets better. The longer you wait, the harder it will be. Don't taper, don't try, just do.
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Hey Guys, I have only been dipping for 3 months on and off, alltogether ive gone through less than 4 cans... I dipped 5 times one day, then 3 the next, i woke up with ulsers all over my mouth and a sore throat with white in the back, its been 2 days and i feel like with proper dental care the mouth is still tender but healing, the white gums in the front are starting to look better, should i be worried?
You should be very worried. You should be worried that you're headed down a path that will lead to serious health concerns, lies to the people you love, thousands of wasted dollars, addiction and slavery to useless plant. You should be worried that you're starting a path that those of us here would give about anything to go back in time to stop.
Your immediate health concerns are almost certainly temporary, but don't take that as an all clear. It's basically your healthy body starting to acclimate to the form of an addict.
Throw away all of your tobacco, forget you ever tried the shit and never touch it again. Either that, or I'll see you back in here in 10 years... Your call.
Amen To THAT.....Throw that shit out and run away as fast as you can. Your at the point where you don't even need to start....
I'm on day 2 of quitting a 20+ year battle. Wish I could go back and never even start.
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Hey Guys, I have only been dipping for 3 months on and off, alltogether ive gone through less than 4 cans... I dipped 5 times one day, then 3 the next, i woke up with ulsers all over my mouth and a sore throat with white in the back, its been 2 days and i feel like with proper dental care the mouth is still tender but healing, the white gums in the front are starting to look better, should i be worried?
You should be very worried. You should be worried that you're headed down a path that will lead to serious health concerns, lies to the people you love, thousands of wasted dollars, addiction and slavery to useless plant. You should be worried that you're starting a path that those of us here would give about anything to go back in time to stop.
Your immediate health concerns are almost certainly temporary, but don't take that as an all clear. It's basically your healthy body starting to acclimate to the form of an addict.
Throw away all of your tobacco, forget you ever tried the shit and never touch it again. Either that, or I'll see you back in here in 10 years... Your call.
Amen To THAT.....Throw that shit out and run away as fast as you can. Your at the point where you don't even need to start....
I'm on day 2 of quitting a 20+ year battle. Wish I could go back and never even start.
im done guys, i threw it all away, im praying its not cancer and its only temporary i wana live a hapy and healthy life, im a quitter, i wana do this for me, be a healthy individual.
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Hey Guys, I have only been dipping for 3 months on and off, alltogether ive gone through less than 4 cans... I dipped 5 times one day, then 3 the next, i woke up with ulsers all over my mouth and a sore throat with white in the back, its been 2 days and i feel like with proper dental care the mouth is still tender but healing, the white gums in the front are starting to look better, should i be worried?
You should be very worried. You should be worried that you're headed down a path that will lead to serious health concerns, lies to the people you love, thousands of wasted dollars, addiction and slavery to useless plant. You should be worried that you're starting a path that those of us here would give about anything to go back in time to stop.
Your immediate health concerns are almost certainly temporary, but don't take that as an all clear. It's basically your healthy body starting to acclimate to the form of an addict.
Throw away all of your tobacco, forget you ever tried the shit and never touch it again. Either that, or I'll see you back in here in 10 years... Your call.
Amen To THAT.....Throw that shit out and run away as fast as you can. Your at the point where you don't even need to start....
I'm on day 2 of quitting a 20+ year battle. Wish I could go back and never even start.
im done guys, i threw it all away, im praying its not cancer and its only temporary i wana live a hapy and healthy life, im a quitter, i wana do this for me, be a healthy individual.
You got some tremendous advice. Glad to have you on the quit side. Welcome aboard!
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Hello guys, my name is Eneu and I am writing from Brazil. Sorry about my English.I don´t speak fluently but I will try to make myself understood. I started dipping one year ago, last month I had the diagnostic of cancer on my throat. The doctor said that he can´t blame with certain tobacco chew but I should stop immediately, so I started looking for herbal chew. For my surprise there is no chew alternative in my country. I wanted to import some but with all the taxes it is impossible as each product will cost me almost 20 dollars. So I decided to produce it by myself. If any of you have a recipe please send it to me. I have already tried but the taste was horrible.I want to improve this homemade herbal chew. My e-mail is eneu_magalhaes@hotmail.com (http://mailto:eneu_magalhaes@hotmail.com). Thanks a lot.
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I have sat on the toilet 6 times since yesterday morning I think I just keep going cause I have that heavy association. The worst part so far is the feeling of not completely emptying my bowels. I don't know how bad my withdrawal side effects will be as I only dipped 2-4 pouches a day for nearly a year but my lower gumline does feel kinda sore
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I have sat on the toilet 6 times since yesterday morning I think I just keep going cause I have that heavy association. The worst part so far is the feeling of not completely emptying my bowels. I don't know how bad my withdrawal side effects will be as I only dipped 2-4 pouches a day for nearly a year but my lower gumline does feel kinda sore
The GI stuff will sort itself out after awhile. Drink tons of water, exercise and eat as healthy as possible early on in your quit. It'll help regulate you, keep your energy up, etc. A couple weeks of bowel issues is nothing compared to cancer or half a jaw or no tongue. Get into the October group and start posting roll. They have a really good core of guys in there now dealing with same stuff you are. You can do this, but not my dipping your toe in the water. Jump in with both feet.
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I have sat on the toilet 6 times since yesterday morning I think I just keep going cause I have that heavy association. The worst part so far is the feeling of not completely emptying my bowels. I don't know how bad my withdrawal side effects will be as I only dipped 2-4 pouches a day for nearly a year but my lower gumline does feel kinda sore
The GI stuff will sort itself out after awhile. Drink tons of water, exercise and eat as healthy as possible early on in your quit. It'll help regulate you, keep your energy up, etc. A couple weeks of bowel issues is nothing compared to cancer or half a jaw or no tongue. Get into the October group and start posting roll. They have a really good core of guys in there now dealing with same stuff you are. You can do this, but not my dipping your toe in the water. Jump in with both feet.
Where is this October group? I couldn't find it....also congrats on 1 year
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I have sat on the toilet 6 times since yesterday morning I think I just keep going cause I have that heavy association. The worst part so far is the feeling of not completely emptying my bowels. I don't know how bad my withdrawal side effects will be as I only dipped 2-4 pouches a day for nearly a year but my lower gumline does feel kinda sore
The GI stuff will sort itself out after awhile. Drink tons of water, exercise and eat as healthy as possible early on in your quit. It'll help regulate you, keep your energy up, etc. A couple weeks of bowel issues is nothing compared to cancer or half a jaw or no tongue. Get into the October group and start posting roll. They have a really good core of guys in there now dealing with same stuff you are. You can do this, but not my dipping your toe in the water. Jump in with both feet.
Where is this October group? I couldn't find it....also congrats on 1 year
Thanks Chauncey. The October group is here: topic/11679548/#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11679548/#new)
Get in there and post roll (instructions for doing so are right in the roll post). Start getting to know those guys. It will only help make this your one and only quit.
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Hey Guys, so my quit day was this last Monday 7/11 so i'm still in deep. I was going to take a passive role on here and just sort of read and get inspiration to stay off it but then today hit and man I am hurting bad. Honestly the first few days were nothing except for the overwhelming feeling that all I needed to do to feel good was throw in a lip. Today though, I feel like I might have a nervous break down if I dont get one. Anyway thats why I figured I need to make it official on here. Can someone show me the ropes on finding my quit group? My 100th day will Oct 19th 2016
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Hey Guys, so my quit day was this last Monday 7/11 so i'm still in deep. I was going to take a passive role on here and just sort of read and get inspiration to stay off it but then today hit and man I am hurting bad. Honestly the first few days were nothing except for the overwhelming feeling that all I needed to do to feel good was throw in a lip. Today though, I feel like I might have a nervous break down if I dont get one. Anyway thats why I figured I need to make it official on here. Can someone show me the ropes on finding my quit group? My 100th day will Oct 19th 2016
Here's the October 2016 quit group: topic/11679548/108/#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11679548/108/#new)
Also, here is the Welcome Center for some pointers: forum/55560/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/55560/)
Welcome RedBeard. You can do this. Nobody ever died from nicotine withdrawal. Your mind and body are doing everything they can to convince you to go back to packing that poison in your lip. Your brothers and sisters in October will tell you what they think of that idea. Be stronger than that temptation. Post roll and you'll have others helping you gain that strength.
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Hey Guys, so my quit day was this last Monday 7/11 so i'm still in deep. I was going to take a passive role on here and just sort of read and get inspiration to stay off it but then today hit and man I am hurting bad. Honestly the first few days were nothing except for the overwhelming feeling that all I needed to do to feel good was throw in a lip. Today though, I feel like I might have a nervous break down if I dont get one. Anyway thats why I figured I need to make it official on here. Can someone show me the ropes on finding my quit group? My 100th day will Oct 19th 2016
Stick with it brother. We have the same quit date lets hold each other accountable. Whats your story?
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Congrats on the quit brother. Stick with it and kick Nic's ass
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Well, I had my last dip May 12 after 25 years of a slave to Kodiak. Guess that puts me in the September group. But to be in a quit group I have to "post roll" every day and follow all these rules? Sounds like a PITA. I don't even know exactly what day I am on and I think that might be a good thing.
Not that this has been easy. It might be the hardest thing I have ever done.
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Well, I had my last dip May 12 after 25 years of a slave to Kodiak. Guess that puts me in the September group. But to be in a quit group I have to "post roll" every day and follow all these rules? Sounds like a PITA. I don't even know exactly what day I am on and I think that might be a good thing.
Not that this has been easy. It might be the hardest thing I have ever done.
You would actually be in August because your 100th day would be August 19th. I'd urge you to read the following materials and then tell me if you think "posting roll everyday is a PITA." I don't think you're trying to be a wise-guy, but there is a method to the madness. If you don't post roll, you're welcome to peruse the site, you just won't be getting the benefits that flow from Accountability + Brotherhood = Success.
Welcome Center (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/55560/)
Traumagnet Introduction (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1010002/57/#new)
Randy's Story (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1008847/1/#new)
Tom Kern (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1008859/1/)
Let me know if you need some more. This place is full of reasons to post roll.
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Well, I had my last dip May 12 after 25 years of a slave to Kodiak. Guess that puts me in the September group. But to be in a quit group I have to "post roll" every day and follow all these rules? Sounds like a PITA. I don't even know exactly what day I am on and I think that might be a good thing.
Not that this has been easy. It might be the hardest thing I have ever done.
You would actually be in August because your 100th day would be August 19th. I'd urge you to read the following materials and then tell me if you think "posting roll everyday is a PITA." I don't think you're trying to be a wise-guy, but there is a method to the madness. If you don't post roll, you're welcome to peruse the site, you just won't be getting the benefits that flow from Accountability + Brotherhood = Success.
Welcome Center (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/55560/)
Traumagnet Introduction (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1010002/57/#new)
Randy's Story (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1008847/1/#new)
Tom Kern (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1008859/1/)
Let me know if you need some more. This place is full of reasons to post roll.
I'm in August and we'd love to make room for you. We've got a rock solid group of people who are going through the same things you are.
You quit for 65 days on your own (badass btw), yet something brought you here. I'm guessing that you thought this thing would be long gone in the rear-view at this point and for a while it seems like it's heading that way. Then one night you have a dip dream, wake up foggy, anxious and have a crave that rivals your first week shakes. Or maybe, you've just been feeling a dull, persistent emptiness or sense of loss. Trust me man, that shit is going around right now and we get it.
Come on over to August and you'll have 30 other dudes to commiserate with, or at least bitch to.
But yeah, if you want to lean on us, ask us to care about your quit and help hold you accountable, the expectation is that you're there every day and early.
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Well, I had my last dip May 12 after 25 years of a slave to Kodiak. Guess that puts me in the September group. But to be in a quit group I have to "post roll" every day and follow all these rules? Sounds like a PITA. I don't even know exactly what day I am on and I think that might be a good thing.
Not that this has been easy. It might be the hardest thing I have ever done.
You would actually be in August because your 100th day would be August 19th. I'd urge you to read the following materials and then tell me if you think "posting roll everyday is a PITA." I don't think you're trying to be a wise-guy, but there is a method to the madness. If you don't post roll, you're welcome to peruse the site, you just won't be getting the benefits that flow from Accountability + Brotherhood = Success.
Welcome Center (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/55560/)
Traumagnet Introduction (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1010002/57/#new)
Randy's Story (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1008847/1/#new)
Tom Kern (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1008859/1/)
Let me know if you need some more. This place is full of reasons to post roll.
I'm in August and we'd love to make room for you. We've got a rock solid group of people who are going through the same things you are.
You quit for 65 days on your own (badass btw), yet something brought you here. I'm guessing that you thought this thing would be long gone in the rear-view at this point and for a while it seems like it's heading that way. Then one night you have a dip dream, wake up foggy, anxious and have a crave that rivals your first week shakes. Or maybe, you've just been feeling a dull, persistent emptiness or sense of loss. Trust me man, that shit is going around right now and we get it.
Come on over to August and you'll have 30 other dudes to commiserate with, or at least bitch to.
But yeah, if you want to lean on us, ask us to care about your quit and help hold you accountable, the expectation is that you're there every day and early.
These guys "get it" and are giving you tremendous advice.
I'd agree with pky... quitting on your own for 60+ days is awesome. But the sad reality is you're FAR from "cured". Your best odds for long term quit is to pull up a chair, post roll daily and dive in head first.
It may sound like a pain now, but I assure you that before you know it two things will happen:
1) it will no longer be a pain in the ass to post roll.
2) you will learn to cherish your quit and be PROUD to see the pile of quit you're compiling.
Believe it or not, there will be times when your quit is the only thing in your life you feel like you've got control over. And that's a pretty powerful thing.
Chewie ~ 3,646
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Not trying to be a wiseass. It just sounded like a job/rules. I just wanted to pipe off now and then.
Like right about now. Came to discover last night the basement was flooded. Headed to the liquor store because this was going to be a long night. Damn I was thinking about it on the way there and I was looking long and hard at those Kodiak tins behind the counter.
But now here I am almost 24 hours later after 20 hours of work and I am ordering a plate of nachos and going to bring it home to sit outside on this beautiful day still Kodiak free.
....If that group thing really works I will might try it because because lord knows I will take any support I can get
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Not trying to be a wiseass. It just sounded like a job/rules. I just wanted to pipe off now and then.
Like right about now. Came to discover last night the basement was flooded. Headed to the liquor store because this was going to be a long night. Damn I was thinking about it on the way there and I was looking long and hard at those Kodiak tins behind the counter.
But now here I am almost 24 hours later after 20 hours of work and I am ordering a plate of nachos and going to bring it home to sit outside on this beautiful day still Kodiak free.
....If that group thing really works I will might try it because because lord knows I will take any support I can get
You'll receive more support than you could possibly imagine. Also, that trip to the liquor store won't be nearly as tough. See, posting roll is giving your promise to a bunch of similarly situated addicts that you will not, under any circumstances use nicotine today. We've all tried quitting on our own. Not one of us could hold ourselves accountable to the point of making the quit stick.
I've been in hundreds of convenience stores in the last year and I can honestly tell you I've never been more disinterested in the cancer rack. I already promised a ton of quitters on this site that I won't use nicotine today. I will not go back on my word to these guys. I've been through hell with them and if I lie to them today, I've thrown that all away. That's why posting roll works. I would strongly encourage you to see for yourself. The support is indescribable and you will never regret the freedom. Plus, August 16 is one bad ass group so you'll be in good hands. Just do it.
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So then I get home with nachos for me and my wife, chicken fingers for my daughter and pizza for my son. Outrageous $40 take out order but what the hell we deserved it. Even stopped to get milk on the way home too.
Then I go out to the patio and see this big frown on my daughter. Guess the chicken fingers and fries were cold. At this point I lost it and just went off on her. Was that the Kodia.talking? I don't know, I think maybe she kind of deserved it. I don't know. But this wasn't the first time I lost it. I think I have gone through at least two cans of Smoky Mountain in the last 24 hours.
...see this is the kind of thing I need. Or maybe I just need to post roll because we can assume every has the same boring stories.
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Read the previous post and post roll. 1 problem + nicotine = 2 problems
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Afternoon everyone, this is a hell of a resource to have. I already owe the majority of a successful day 4 quit to this site. If anyone minds giving pointers to a new guy on navigating around here, I'd greatly appreciate it. 7/13/16- quit, now seeking those double digit days under my belt.
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Hi Mr. Solo. I see you made it on roll. Good job man. I'm glad you made it.
I would take the time to get to know your quit group REAl well. Post in other quit groups to . it's all good. Great resources to say the least. Read some Hall Of Fame Speeches and Words of Wisdom. GREAT materials. Also we have a Live Chat you can join in on. Sometimes its busy as all get out, other times not. Just give it a shot any time you want.
Stick with this. It really works. Things get better day by day. I often see guys come in that say they have been going it alone for X amount of days now and they are just miserable as all can be. Much like a dry drunk. That is because they are going it alone. You don't ever have to feel that way man. We are all here for you.
Take care and if you ever need anything, give me a shout!
Ray - 305
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Afternoon everyone, this is a hell of a resource to have. I already owe the majority of a successful day 4 quit to this site. If anyone minds giving pointers to a new guy on navigating around here, I'd greatly appreciate it. 7/13/16- quit, now seeking those double digit days under my belt.
Mr. Solo,
You'll be with us in the October Group (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11679548/133/#new).
Post roll with us every day, and we will be your Brothers of quitting. Ask around and collect some phone numbers, get to know they guys in the group, and we will help to keep you on the right path.
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So then I get home with nachos for me and my wife, chicken fingers for my daughter and pizza for my son. Outrageous $40 take out order but what the hell we deserved it. Even stopped to get milk on the way home too.
Then I go out to the patio and see this big frown on my daughter. Guess the chicken fingers and fries were cold. At this point I lost it and just went off on her. Was that the Kodia.talking? I don't know, I think maybe she kind of deserved it. I don't know. But this wasn't the first time I lost it. I think I have gone through at least two cans of Smoky Mountain in the last 24 hours.
...see this is the kind of thing I need. Or maybe I just need to post roll because we can assume every has the same boring stories.
Kodiak, no one's going to beg you dude. The August group is there and rolling. We'd love to have you, love to help you. But if you decide not to post, we'll keep on rolling anyway.
Trust me man, it's a great support system. Every one of these guys is on here every day. Almost all are willing to exchange numbers.
There's no win too small or challenge too tough. The support and commitment of this group is as strong as you will get.
You just have to ask for it and show up every damn day
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Hi Mr. Solo. I see you made it on roll. Good job man. I'm glad you made it.
I would take the time to get to know your quit group REAl well. Post in other quit groups to . it's all good. Great resources to say the least. Read some Hall Of Fame Speeches and Words of Wisdom. GREAT materials. Also we have a Live Chat you can join in on. Sometimes its busy as all get out, other times not. Just give it a shot any time you want.
Stick with this. It really works. Things get better day by day. I often see guys come in that say they have been going it alone for X amount of days now and they are just miserable as all can be. Much like a dry drunk. That is because they are going it alone. You don't ever have to feel that way man. We are all here for you.
Take care and if you ever need anything, give me a shout!
Ray - 305
Thanks Ray, I appreciate it and I'm sure I'll need help along the way. At this point in the game, I'm only five days in...a small victory but not shit yet. The mind games are in full effect, not so much having to restrain myself from buying a can, but the nonstop rhetorical questions. However, great resoucres on here to assist as you point out. Thanks again.
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Hi Mr. Solo. I see you made it on roll. Good job man. I'm glad you made it.
I would take the time to get to know your quit group REAl well. Post in other quit groups to . it's all good. Great resources to say the least. Read some Hall Of Fame Speeches and Words of Wisdom. GREAT materials. Also we have a Live Chat you can join in on. Sometimes its busy as all get out, other times not. Just give it a shot any time you want.
Stick with this. It really works. Things get better day by day. I often see guys come in that say they have been going it alone for X amount of days now and they are just miserable as all can be. Much like a dry drunk. That is because they are going it alone. You don't ever have to feel that way man. We are all here for you.
Take care and if you ever need anything, give me a shout!
Ray - 305
Thanks Ray, I appreciate it and I'm sure I'll need help along the way. At this point in the game, I'm only five days in...a small victory but not shit yet. The mind games are in full effect, not so much having to restrain myself from buying a can, but the nonstop rhetorical questions. However, great resoucres on here to assist as you point out. Thanks again.
Don't sell yourself short. Every single day you post and then keep your promise is a victory. 5 days is awesome. Think of all the users out there that wish they could say they were 5 days quit.
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Hi Mr. Solo. I see you made it on roll. Good job man. I'm glad you made it.
I would take the time to get to know your quit group REAl well. Post in other quit groups to . it's all good. Great resources to say the least. Read some Hall Of Fame Speeches and Words of Wisdom. GREAT materials. Also we have a Live Chat you can join in on. Sometimes its busy as all get out, other times not. Just give it a shot any time you want.
Stick with this. It really works. Things get better day by day. I often see guys come in that say they have been going it alone for X amount of days now and they are just miserable as all can be. Much like a dry drunk. That is because they are going it alone. You don't ever have to feel that way man. We are all here for you.
Take care and if you ever need anything, give me a shout!
Ray - 305
Thanks Ray, I appreciate it and I'm sure I'll need help along the way. At this point in the game, I'm only five days in...a small victory but not shit yet. The mind games are in full effect, not so much having to restrain myself from buying a can, but the nonstop rhetorical questions. However, great resoucres on here to assist as you point out. Thanks again.
Don't sell yourself short. Every single day you post and then keep your promise is a victory. 5 days is awesome. Think of all the users out there that wish they could say they were 5 days quit.
Yeah I have to agree. 5 days is freakin awesome! I just was talking to a feller in chat who lol'ed at 3 days. NO! 3 days is awesome, 5 days is bad ass! You are quit today man and that is what counts. Tomorrow does not matter yet as it is not here. Yesterday is gone so who cares. Today is very important.
Wake up tomorrow and post your roll and do it all over again one day at a time man.
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Attention all Pennsylvania dippers! Did you know your taxes will be going up on August 1st? While the new 1$ per pack cigarette tax is getting all of the attention, they will also be adding a tax of 55 cents per ounce of chew. That means you will be paying an extra 66 cents for each and every can!
Want to avoid paying through the nose? QUIT TODAY!!!
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Hi =)
I am looking to quit chew ...I had a scare last month , I was referred to a ENT because I had a ulcer that appeared on My tongue that would not go away .After trying several meds with no luck...They did a biopsy which came back negative for cancer ...I have tried several times which has only lasted a short period of time ...The last time I tried the nicotine gum but then that caused My TMJ to flare up ....So I am here looking for some advice on how to do this ...I know it's not going to be easy ..
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Hi =)
I am looking to quit chew ...I had a scare last month , I was referred to a ENT because I had a ulcer that appeared on My tongue that would not go away .After trying several meds with no luck...They did a biopsy which came back negative for cancer ...I have tried several times which has only lasted a short period of time ...The last time I tried the nicotine gum but then that caused My TMJ to flare up ....So I am here looking for some advice on how to do this ...I know it's not going to be easy ..
Some advice - read some threads to tell you who we are and what we're about here...
Welcome Center (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/55560/)
We quit cold turkey here, nicotine is not allowed in any form. When you have flushed all of your cans and are nicotine free go here to post roll.
October 2016 Quit Group (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11679548/147/#new)
We promise not to use nicotine every day as soon as we wake up in the morning. Your promise is for 24 hours. Make your promise, keep your promise, and if you still want to quit repeat the next morning. It isn't easy but you will quit and you will have support from your quit brothers in October and the veterans on this site. B)B
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Hi =)
I am looking to quit chew ...I had a scare last month , I was referred to a ENT because I had a ulcer that appeared on My tongue that would not go away .After trying several meds with no luck...They did a biopsy which came back negative for cancer ...I have tried several times which has only lasted a short period of time ...The last time I tried the nicotine gum but then that caused My TMJ to flare up ....So I am here looking for some advice on how to do this ...I know it's not going to be easy ..
Some advice - read some threads to tell you who we are and what we're about here...
Welcome Center (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/55560/)
We quit cold turkey here, nicotine is not allowed in any form. When you have flushed all of your cans and are nicotine free go here to post roll.
October 2016 Quit Group (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11679548/147/#new)
We promise not to use nicotine every day as soon as we wake up in the morning. Your promise is for 24 hours. Make your promise, keep your promise, and if you still want to quit repeat the next morning. It isn't easy but you will quit and you will have support from your quit brothers in October and the veterans on this site. B)B
^^^^ What Stranger said.
Yeah man, no nic anything. It only prolongs the suck. The nic is gone out of your body in 3 days man. Then it is all mental.
A doctor once told me to get some black licorice, can't be red, and chomp on it until it is mush and then pack it in your lip like a dip. Something about the anise oil in the licorice will help curb the craves naturally unlike putting a nic substitute like gum or lozenges or patch in you. I never tried it so I can't say for certain if it works. I used the patch instead. that was 13 or 14 years ago to quit smoking. I would have to say it is the same for dip. Might be worth a shot man.
Want further support from me? Go ahead and get things in order like flushing dip and rinsing cans and posting roll. I'll be more than glad to support any time of day!
Take care and kick this bitch today man!
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Hi =)
I am looking to quit chew ...I had a scare last month , I was referred to a ENT because I had a ulcer that appeared on My tongue that would not go away .After trying several meds with no luck...They did a biopsy which came back negative for cancer ...I have tried several times which has only lasted a short period of time ...The last time I tried the nicotine gum but then that caused My TMJ to flare up ....So I am here looking for some advice on how to do this ...I know it's not going to be easy ..
Some advice - read some threads to tell you who we are and what we're about here...
Welcome Center (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/55560/)
We quit cold turkey here, nicotine is not allowed in any form. When you have flushed all of your cans and are nicotine free go here to post roll.
October 2016 Quit Group (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11679548/147/#new)
We promise not to use nicotine every day as soon as we wake up in the morning. Your promise is for 24 hours. Make your promise, keep your promise, and if you still want to quit repeat the next morning. It isn't easy but you will quit and you will have support from your quit brothers in October and the veterans on this site. B)B
I understand what this site is about , wasn't sure where to start ...Was looking for some advice ..Nice way you welcome someone =/
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As of today, 40 days quit. This is after 33 years of Skoal straight which I started using to quit a 10 year smoking habit. Damage done prior to quitting: heart attack, high blood pressure, lost and loose teeth. I finally became honest with myself and admitted nicotine caused the known problems.
Now I am stressing about the unknown problems. I know I need to go to the dentist. I need loose teeth and bad gums dealt with before I have to eat only liquids. I am terrified to have the dentist check me out for cancer. Wimp, chicken, pussy, whatever you want to call me. I am sweating typing this.
My quit date is June 11, 2016, so I believe I belong in th September quit group.
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As of today, 40 days quit. This is after 33 years of Skoal straight which I started using to quit a 10 year smoking habit. Damage done prior to quitting: heart attack, high blood pressure, lost and loose teeth. I finally became honest with myself and admitted nicotine caused the known problems.
Now I am stressing about the unknown problems. I know I need to go to the dentist. I need loose teeth and bad gums dealt with before I have to eat only liquids. I am terrified to have the dentist check me out for cancer. Wimp, chicken, pussy, whatever you want to call me. I am sweating typing this.
My quit date is June 11, 2016, so I believe I belong in th September quit group.
That's Awesome! Im at Day #5 so well in the rear view for you! I want to speak towards your concerns though... I know what you are feeling and am scared to death of getting checked by a Dentist....Its been 4 years since my last check up.. I have had three teeth pulled and replaced over the past 14years. Im scared to death what he/she may find.
I have read several posts on this very thing. We are all scared (myself included) but we face it like Adults. We face it like we face this addiction everyday. Some days are tougher than others. (Although right now all my days are tough.)
I have decided to quit and give it my all as a person everyday. Once I am over the major symptoms Ill worry/face my fears about the next step (Dentist). I'm scared as hell but we have to face it someday.. Day #5 is not the time to take on any other potential bad news scenario's..
In time we must face it or be constantly worried about it. Just think about what a "clean bill of health" would do to our psych. That's my end goal, a second chance to live life free and not worried about what may come. We can do it...We have to do it!
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Hi =)
I am looking to quit chew ...I had a scare last month , I was referred to a ENT because I had a ulcer that appeared on My tongue that would not go away .After trying several meds with no luck...They did a biopsy which came back negative for cancer ...I have tried several times which has only lasted a short period of time ...The last time I tried the nicotine gum but then that caused My TMJ to flare up ....So I am here looking for some advice on how to do this ...I know it's not going to be easy ..
Some advice - read some threads to tell you who we are and what we're about here...
Welcome Center (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/55560/)
We quit cold turkey here, nicotine is not allowed in any form. When you have flushed all of your cans and are nicotine free go here to post roll.
October 2016 Quit Group (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11679548/147/#new)
We promise not to use nicotine every day as soon as we wake up in the morning. Your promise is for 24 hours. Make your promise, keep your promise, and if you still want to quit repeat the next morning. It isn't easy but you will quit and you will have support from your quit brothers in October and the veterans on this site. B)B
I understand what this site is about , wasn't sure where to start ...Was looking for some advice ..Nice way you welcome someone =/
We can only point you in the right direction. You need to decide to quit for yourself. If you do quit drink as much water as you can stand and get some exercise. Do whatever you can to keep nicotine out or your body and your thoughts. If you post roll you will have great company. :)
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Hi =)
I am looking to quit chew ...I had a scare last month , I was referred to a ENT because I had a ulcer that appeared on My tongue that would not go away .After trying several meds with no luck...They did a biopsy which came back negative for cancer ...I have tried several times which has only lasted a short period of time ...The last time I tried the nicotine gum but then that caused My TMJ to flare up ....So I am here looking for some advice on how to do this ...I know it's not going to be easy ..
Some advice - read some threads to tell you who we are and what we're about here...
Welcome Center (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/55560/)
We quit cold turkey here, nicotine is not allowed in any form. When you have flushed all of your cans and are nicotine free go here to post roll.
October 2016 Quit Group (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11679548/147/#new)
We promise not to use nicotine every day as soon as we wake up in the morning. Your promise is for 24 hours. Make your promise, keep your promise, and if you still want to quit repeat the next morning. It isn't easy but you will quit and you will have support from your quit brothers in October and the veterans on this site. B)B
I understand what this site is about , wasn't sure where to start ...Was looking for some advice ..Nice way you welcome someone =/
We can only point you in the right direction. You need to decide to quit for yourself. If you do quit drink as much water as you can stand and get some exercise. Do whatever you can to keep nicotine out or your body and your thoughts. If you post roll you will have great company. :)
Hmmm, I'm guessing the biopsy needs to come back positive before you actually quit William. That is too bad. :(
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Post and Ghosters..... Shit heads!! Question is, do they add any value to your quit group?
In short terms, no. Not at all. They are a waste of space and should have no say in how the group operates. Make your post and move on! Or is that going to far?
In the long term side, yeah they do add value. There are some 100% post and ghosters that I can point out daily that are 100% posters. Does that add value? Certainly! It helps my group get 1 step closer to 100% for the day. It gives me faith that even though they are here limited use, the system is working for them and they do not need to be here 100% of the time. that is pretty freakin awesome if it works for them! it inspires me that one day, i won't need to be here 12 hours a day. I can once again balance my life out and live life on life's terms. And I can do it nic free! Do post ghosters annoy me? Yeah really bad. I wish they would step up and chat every now and again. BUT, I understand some people get up early in the morning, post and leave for work and are gone from home 12-14 plus hours a day and when they get home, they don't feel like sitting on the net. I get it. So should we not give them a say in our group because of that fact? It's not really for me to decide. it is their group to not just mine. I recall being there my self. I was out the door by 5 and back home by 9 pm that night. I had to time to shit shower and shave, eat a late diner and hug and kiss my daughter and say good night to her and tuck her little self in bed. And for that very reason, should I have lost my right in a group to have a vote? Even though I post daily and am 100% and quit?
Bottom line is, we all can't be here 24/7. Hell there are MANY days it is impossible for me to be on as much as I have been here the last few days. I try to stay busy most of the time and NOT on the computer. I don't have a job that allows me to be in front of a screen all day. So if you only see me post roll one day and that is all, please don't pass judgement. Just know that I am quit with you all 100% all in EDD! If I plan to cave, I will NOT post a promise to you all. But what I can do is promise you this, TODAY I am nic free and will be all damn day! Tomorrow I will wake up and be on roll with you clowns even if that is all the posting I do for the day.
Take care everyone and may the quit be with you!
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I am lost on this site, I am on day 23 of being a quitter for the second time and never looking back. I want to write my testimony specifically for high school/ex high school baseball players. How can I achieve this where they can actually read it?
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I am lost on this site, I am on day 23 of being a quitter for the second time and never looking back. I want to write my testimony specifically for high school/ex high school baseball players. How can I achieve this where they can actually read it?
Tcorn, you are more than welcome to go over to the Introductions thread and start your story over there. That is a great thread to get started. I can assure you some bad ass quitters will come along and rely as well.
A lot of us use the Introductions to tell our story as we go along with our quit. It is pretty much a journal we can all look back on to where we were and where we are now.
The only thing we ask is if they register and are not quit, they do not ever post in non dipping discussions or quit groups. That would be disrespectful to us that are nic free and quit. Much like bringing a 6 pack to an AA meeting.
Take care!
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Thanks for the help!
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Not a problem.
I added a little more to it that I should have said the fist time.
Take care!
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Not sure if this is the right place to post but I'll give it a shot here.
I am 5-6 weeks quit, nicotine is out of my system, and I don't feel the need/want to ever dip again.
My problem is I am now "addicted" to fake dip. It was great to help me kick the Skoal, but now I am struggling to give up the Smokey Mountain. Anyone else know this struggle, if so how did you get over it? I'm worried that without the fake stuff, I could relapse to the real shit. Does the oral craving ever lessen?
I'm feeling so good without that poison in my body, I never want to go back there again.
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Not sure if this is the right place to post but I'll give it a shot here.
I am 5-6 weeks quit, nicotine is out of my system, and I don't feel the need/want to ever dip again.
My problem is I am now "addicted" to fake dip. It was great to help me kick the Skoal, but now I am struggling to give up the Smokey Mountain. Anyone else know this struggle, if so how did you get over it? I'm worried that without the fake stuff, I could relapse to the real shit. Does the oral craving ever lessen?
I'm feeling so good without that poison in my body, I never want to go back there again.
You're in the right place (also feel free to post stuff like this in your home group as other folks are most likely dealing with similar issues).
I was right there with you. After chewing a can / day of Kodiak for the better part of two decades I dove right in to the fake stuff. I chewed at least a can / day of Smokey Mountain for a good 200 + days or so into my quit. I, like you, worried quite a bit about whether or not I was addicted to the fake stuff and if I'd ever be able to put it down.
I resigned myself to the fact that I'd just always chew the fake. I told myself (and I still believe this) that I'd rather chew a can / day of the fake stuff for the rest of my life than to ever have another dip of Kodiak.
And then at around day 220 or so something happened.
I didn't need it any more.
I just sort of stopped using it and stopped needing it. If you're 6 weeks in you're well on your way, but you've got a lot of "first time" triggers yet to deal with. Summer is in full swing and fall is just around the corner. You're going to have to tackle quite a few "firsts" in the next few months. Keep that fake in your tool belt until you get some more legs under your quit.
Long story short... keep doing what you're doing. It's working. There will be a day when you should deal with the oral fixation but A) that's a long way away and B) it'll most likely take care of itself.
Chewie
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i finally got enough courage to make a dental appointment. 1st time since 1988.
i am terrified to be checked for cancer. i can't say i see anything that looks like pictures on this site, but I am not an expert and I really do not know what a healthy mouth should look like.
i do see on both cheeks near the back, what looks kind of like white head pimples. They have been there for a long time. Right where I bite my cheeks a lot over the years.
I am trying to avoid a panic attack, but this is going to be real hard.
Sorry for whining.
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At day 25 should I be sleeping 11 hours a day and barely able to stay awake at work? I'm assuming this isn't normal at this point. Though rare it's possible Wellbutrin could cause extreme tiredness. Took my last dose yesterday morning. If that doesn't help I'll visit my doctor. This is miserable. Has to get better at some point.
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At day 25 should I be sleeping 11 hours a day and barely able to stay awake at work? I'm assuming this isn't normal at this point. Though rare it's possible Wellbutrin could cause extreme tiredness. Took my last dose yesterday morning. If that doesn't help I'll visit my doctor. This is miserable. Has to get better at some point.
The fog comes and goes and it's different for everyone. For many, it goes away but there is a resurgence of it somewhere between days 50-70.
Can't say for sure what's going on with you, but I can say that it gets better eventually. At day 25, you're still in the infancy of your quit. At day 86, I'm still in the infancy of my quit too. It's not unusual to have acute symptoms for a few months and resonant symptoms very far out.
You'll feel better as you go and caving now will only reset you to day 1.
If you join up with the October quit group, you'll have a whole network of folks in the same date range to bounce these things off of.
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I'm looking into the fake dip guys and I'm unsure of it, I mean, does it REALLY work? Does it help? I've seen a post about it, that it does but I need to be told myself and about the "firsts" I may encounter, and maybe even the best fake dip for me, I chewed skoal/grizz wintergreen, don't know if they have that flavor anywhere. I'm on NiP the Grip facebook page and there's many people who have great reviews. But I don't know yet.
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Jaydn,
For me, Smokey Mountain straight replaced the Skoal straight I had used for 33 years. I'm am 48 days into my quit and I have to say that I like the taste of SM......to the point I may well be addicted to it now. Since it has no nicotine and no apparent health hazards, I am not going to sweat it at this time.
You can get a variety of flavors on Amazon to try to see what works for you.
Whatever you do, do not ever go back to using tobacco.
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I'm looking into the fake dip guys and I'm unsure of it, I mean, does it REALLY work? Does it help? I've seen a post about it, that it does but I need to be told myself and about the "firsts" I may encounter, and maybe even the best fake dip for me, I chewed skoal/grizz wintergreen, don't know if they have that flavor anywhere. I'm on NiP the Grip facebook page and there's many people who have great reviews. But I don't know yet.
Definatley use the fake stuff if it helps. Some like it some dont. Like you i dipped Grizz wintergreen and used Smokey Mtn mint. That was the only flavor that didnt taste like absolute shit to me. I went with SM because i could buy it locally. Ironically i had to buy it at the tobacco shop. Nothing like standing in line staring at a wall of chew in full on withdraws on the verge of caving. Looking back it took some serious will power to make it through those days. I used the fake stuff for a few months then went to sunflower seeds and then gum. Now don't really use anything.
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Agree with the above...Smokey Mountain was excellent and helped replace the feeling of dipping. I always have a can lying around the house just in case; however I have been using it less and less as time goes on.
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Not sure if this is the right place to post but I'll give it a shot here.
I am 5-6 weeks quit, nicotine is out of my system, and I don't feel the need/want to ever dip again.
My problem is I am now "addicted" to fake dip. It was great to help me kick the Skoal, but now I am struggling to give up the Smokey Mountain. Anyone else know this struggle, if so how did you get over it? I'm worried that without the fake stuff, I could relapse to the real shit. Does the oral craving ever lessen?
I'm feeling so good without that poison in my body, I never want to go back there again.
You're in the right place (also feel free to post stuff like this in your home group as other folks are most likely dealing with similar issues).
I was right there with you. After chewing a can / day of Kodiak for the better part of two decades I dove right in to the fake stuff. I chewed at least a can / day of Smokey Mountain for a good 200 + days or so into my quit. I, like you, worried quite a bit about whether or not I was addicted to the fake stuff and if I'd ever be able to put it down.
I resigned myself to the fact that I'd just always chew the fake. I told myself (and I still believe this) that I'd rather chew a can / day of the fake stuff for the rest of my life than to ever have another dip of Kodiak.
And then at around day 220 or so something happened.
I didn't need it any more.
I just sort of stopped using it and stopped needing it. If you're 6 weeks in you're well on your way, but you've got a lot of "first time" triggers yet to deal with. Summer is in full swing and fall is just around the corner. You're going to have to tackle quite a few "firsts" in the next few months. Keep that fake in your tool belt until you get some more legs under your quit.
Long story short... keep doing what you're doing. It's working. There will be a day when you should deal with the oral fixation but A) that's a long way away and B) it'll most likely take care of itself.
Chewie
Very helpful post for me. I went yesterday without fake dip and it was rough. So I was ,right now contemplating whether I should be getting more and possibly feeding that addiction?
I have used both Smoky Mtn and Mint Snuff. I find the Smoky Mtn does a little better job of mimicking real dip but at the price of being kind of nasty. Mint snuff taste good and fresh and pleasant but doesn't provide much burn.
I am going to get more and take your word that this will eventually pass. At about day 90 now I donÂ’t want anything to prolong this agony. Time just does not heal these wounds fast enough. I now have read some horror stories about the hell days 120ish might bring and I hope I can do this. I just wonder sometimes if posting about it daily, using mint snuff, etc. are things that just keep.the dip.at the forefront when I win when it no longer dominates my thoughts. Maybe that isn't possible and it is just this hard. Or I am kind of a wuss. I don't know I am rambling. Off to get some mint snuff now.
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Not sure if this is the right place to post but I'll give it a shot here.
I am 5-6 weeks quit, nicotine is out of my system, and I don't feel the need/want to ever dip again.
My problem is I am now "addicted" to fake dip. It was great to help me kick the Skoal, but now I am struggling to give up the Smokey Mountain. Anyone else know this struggle, if so how did you get over it? I'm worried that without the fake stuff, I could relapse to the real shit. Does the oral craving ever lessen?
I'm feeling so good without that poison in my body, I never want to go back there again.
You're in the right place (also feel free to post stuff like this in your home group as other folks are most likely dealing with similar issues).
I was right there with you. After chewing a can / day of Kodiak for the better part of two decades I dove right in to the fake stuff. I chewed at least a can / day of Smokey Mountain for a good 200 + days or so into my quit. I, like you, worried quite a bit about whether or not I was addicted to the fake stuff and if I'd ever be able to put it down.
I resigned myself to the fact that I'd just always chew the fake. I told myself (and I still believe this) that I'd rather chew a can / day of the fake stuff for the rest of my life than to ever have another dip of Kodiak.
And then at around day 220 or so something happened.
I didn't need it any more.
I just sort of stopped using it and stopped needing it. If you're 6 weeks in you're well on your way, but you've got a lot of "first time" triggers yet to deal with. Summer is in full swing and fall is just around the corner. You're going to have to tackle quite a few "firsts" in the next few months. Keep that fake in your tool belt until you get some more legs under your quit.
Long story short... keep doing what you're doing. It's working. There will be a day when you should deal with the oral fixation but A) that's a long way away and B) it'll most likely take care of itself.
Chewie
Very helpful post for me. I went yesterday without fake dip and it was rough. So I was ,right now contemplating whether I should be getting more and possibly feeding that addiction?
I have used both Smoky Mtn and Mint Snuff. I find the Smoky Mtn does a little better job of mimicking real dip but at the price of being kind of nasty. Mint snuff taste good and fresh and pleasant but doesn't provide much burn.
I am going to get more and take your word that this will eventually pass. At about day 90 now I donÂ’t want anything to prolong this agony. Time just does not heal these wounds fast enough. I now have read some horror stories about the hell days 120ish might bring and I hope I can do this. I just wonder sometimes if posting about it daily, using mint snuff, etc. are things that just keep.the dip.at the forefront when I win when it no longer dominates my thoughts. Maybe that isn't possible and it is just this hard. Or I am kind of a wuss. I don't know I am rambling. Off to get some mint snuff now.
I used fake dip for 70-80 days. I never really tried to quit using it, it just happened that I stopped. Didn't even really realize it but one evening I realized I was busy the whole day and never used it.
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I just quit 4 days ago and my anxiety is so bad I can't even leave my house, worried about cancer but have no symptoms it's like I keep making it up in my head that I have it
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I just quit 4 days ago and my anxiety is so bad I can't even leave my house, worried about cancer but have no symptoms it's like I keep making it up in my head that I have it
Hang in there man... go talk to your doc he may be able to help you with your anxiety issues.
http://www.killthecan.org/anxiety-when- ... th-stress/ (http://www.killthecan.org/anxiety-when-you-quit-dipping-dealing-with-stress/)
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today is day 6!! i'm 47 and have been chewing since I was 17. I'm using the patch to help this process. Most of the day when i'm working I feel good, here and there the demon tobacco creeps in to my brain. Just trying to stay focused and stay away from gas stations that house chew.
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today is day 6!! i'm 47 and have been chewing since I was 17. I'm using the patch to help this process. Most of the day when i'm working I feel good, here and there the demon tobacco creeps in to my brain. Just trying to stay focused and stay away from gas stations that house chew.
The demon is still creeping into your brain because it is still in your system. The demon is not tobacco, the demon is nicotine. Nicotine is what keeps you addicted to tobacco. I'm glad you're fired up to quit, but if you want to quit, you need to remove the nicotine pacifier. This site makes it possible, you just have to put in the work.
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today is day 6!! i'm 47 and have been chewing since I was 17. I'm using the patch to help this process. Most of the day when i'm working I feel good, here and there the demon tobacco creeps in to my brain. Just trying to stay focused and stay away from gas stations that house chew.
The demon is still creeping into your brain because it is still in your system. The demon is not tobacco, the demon is nicotine. Nicotine is what keeps you addicted to tobacco. I'm glad you're fired up to quit, but if you want to quit, you need to remove the nicotine pacifier. This site makes it possible, you just have to put in the work.
If you bothered to go back to my original posts, you'd see that I started out with nicotine gum. If I could turn the hands of time back, I would go cold turkey. Nicotine replacement is risky. And, you're not quit. It took a while for that to sink in to my thick skull.
Do yourself a favor. Rip the patch off. Throw the rest of them away after destroying them. The freedom on the other side is so worth it.
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I haven't been around much in a long time. I let life get in my way. Actually. I let laziness get in the way. I could find other things I thought were more important to do. I could always find an excuse. Today that stops. I really wanted to make the Pa. get together but I had two banquets to attend this weekend. Long story but it just didn't work out.
I am now starting my own business so my time is my time for the first time in a long time. I plan to do some visiting with some of my quit brothers and sisters. I really want to meet up with some who have been here since day one. Some of them I have meet and some I have not. But I have nothing more than FB connections to some of you ( by the way I am Curtis Ansley on facebook). So send me some contact info you bunch of quitters!!
This place is truly a brotherhood but only if you let it. If you are a new quitter or old, I am proud to stand with you in quit.
ODT
'ODT'
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I haven't been around much in a long time. I let life get in my way. Actually. I let laziness get in the way. I could find other things I thought were more important to do. I could always find an excuse. Today that stops. I really wanted to make the Pa. get together but I had two banquets to attend this weekend. Long story but it just didn't work out.
I am now starting my own business so my time is my time for the first time in a long time. I plan to do some visiting with some of my quit brothers and sisters. I really want to meet up with some who have been here since day one. Some of them I have meet and some I have not. But I have nothing more than FB connections to some of you ( by the way I am Curtis Ansley on facebook). So send me some contact info you bunch of quitters!!
This place is truly a brotherhood but only if you let it. If you are a new quitter or old, I am proud to stand with you in quit.
ODT
'ODT'
Well I'll be... good to see you my friend!
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Well I'll be... good to see you my friend!
I am doing well Chewie. Sad I missed this passed weekends meet though. How about yourself?
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Well I'll be... good to see you my friend!
I am doing well Chewie. Sad I missed this passed weekends meet though. How about yourself?
ODT!
Damn good to see you brother. Made my day seeing your post pop up on the board today.
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Hey everyone, I'm brand new to the community here and I quit a week ago today. A week ago I arrived in Finland to visit family and had with me in my carry on what would be my last can of Grizzly. I had been a long cut user for about 5-6 years and started using the pouches instead over the last few months. Had a few pouches left when I arrived at my parents house, and sure enough by the end of my first day there it was all gone. I've been planning this to be my quitting time for awhile now, as chew isn't even available in Finland so I figured even though I might want a new can, it will be impossible to get. I go back home to the US in another couple of weeks, and plan to never buy a can again. The first few days with the physical withdrawal were pretty tough, I actually got a feeling of a really bad cold, but with ibuprofen that initially passed. Now I'm spending lots of time exercising and in the sauna to help out even more, and found this great group while researching how quitting affects others. Looking forward to interacting with all of you!
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Well I'll be... good to see you my friend!
I am doing well Chewie. Sad I missed this passed weekends meet though. How about yourself?
ODT!
Damn good to see you brother. Made my day seeing your post pop up on the board today.
sup mtnman, how ya doin
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Hey everyone, I'm brand new to the community here and I quit a week ago today. A week ago I arrived in Finland to visit family and had with me in my carry on what would be my last can of Grizzly. I had been a long cut user for about 5-6 years and started using the pouches instead over the last few months. Had a few pouches left when I arrived at my parents house, and sure enough by the end of my first day there it was all gone. I've been planning this to be my quitting time for awhile now, as chew isn't even available in Finland so I figured even though I might want a new can, it will be impossible to get. I go back home to the US in another couple of weeks, and plan to never buy a can again. The first few days with the physical withdrawal were pretty tough, I actually got a feeling of a really bad cold, but with ibuprofen that initially passed. Now I'm spending lots of time exercising and in the sauna to help out even more, and found this great group while researching how quitting affects others. Looking forward to interacting with all of you!
I would say going all the way to Finland to quit is quit extreme! This is an awesome place to come for daily support and accountability! Stick with the quit and be a better person for it. Good luck!
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Hey everyone, I'm brand new to the community here and I quit a week ago today. A week ago I arrived in Finland to visit family and had with me in my carry on what would be my last can of Grizzly. I had been a long cut user for about 5-6 years and started using the pouches instead over the last few months. Had a few pouches left when I arrived at my parents house, and sure enough by the end of my first day there it was all gone. I've been planning this to be my quitting time for awhile now, as chew isn't even available in Finland so I figured even though I might want a new can, it will be impossible to get. I go back home to the US in another couple of weeks, and plan to never buy a can again. The first few days with the physical withdrawal were pretty tough, I actually got a feeling of a really bad cold, but with ibuprofen that initially passed. Now I'm spending lots of time exercising and in the sauna to help out even more, and found this great group while researching how quitting affects others. Looking forward to interacting with all of you!
I would say going all the way to Finland to quit is quit extreme! This is an awesome place to come for daily support and accountability! Stick with the quit and be a better person for it. Good luck!
Thanks man! Yeah it is a little extreme lol but it's a yearly trip I make so figured it's the best chance at success! Still got two weeks to go with no dip until I head home so hopefully all the cravings will be gone by then. Toughest part will be the 5 hour drive I have from the airport to my apartment, I'm just so used to driving with a dip in. I know I'll be able to pull through though, but no doubt I'll be thinking about it heading into the gas station.
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Hey everyone, I'm brand new to the community here and I quit a week ago today. A week ago I arrived in Finland to visit family and had with me in my carry on what would be my last can of Grizzly. I had been a long cut user for about 5-6 years and started using the pouches instead over the last few months. Had a few pouches left when I arrived at my parents house, and sure enough by the end of my first day there it was all gone. I've been planning this to be my quitting time for awhile now, as chew isn't even available in Finland so I figured even though I might want a new can, it will be impossible to get. I go back home to the US in another couple of weeks, and plan to never buy a can again. The first few days with the physical withdrawal were pretty tough, I actually got a feeling of a really bad cold, but with ibuprofen that initially passed. Now I'm spending lots of time exercising and in the sauna to help out even more, and found this great group while researching how quitting affects others. Looking forward to interacting with all of you!
I would say going all the way to Finland to quit is quit extreme! This is an awesome place to come for daily support and accountability! Stick with the quit and be a better person for it. Good luck!
Thanks man! Yeah it is a little extreme lol but it's a yearly trip I make so figured it's the best chance at success! Still got two weeks to go with no dip until I head home so hopefully all the cravings will be gone by then. Toughest part will be the 5 hour drive I have from the airport to my apartment, I'm just so used to driving with a dip in. I know I'll be able to pull through though, but no doubt I'll be thinking about it heading into the gas station.
I have bad news for you. I have been quit since 2005. Lost a few things because of dip. Wake every morning in pain because of dip. And yes, I even think it about it most every day despite all that. The difference is it no longer controls me so thinking about it is simply thinking about it. At any rate, good luck and quit strong!
ODT
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I am five days into my quit and doing quite well. I am determined to make it permanent, but I am getting badgered, heckled, sworn at, called names, and I am not going to put up with this sort of activity. I have asked this person, twice to stop with the messages and he still continues. I don't need it! I didn't post in roll call because I left my home very early this morning to co-announce a pro rodeo at our state fair and I just got home. I was going to post in roll call tonight, but instead, I am deleting my account. I am a Christian man and quite frankly not going to be treated or talked to in the manner. If this is to be a support group, doing so in this manner is not the way to do it and certainly not how I am going to accept this type of messages. I have the loving support of my family, friends, and of my Lord. Goodbye KTC!
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I am five days into my quit and doing quite well. I am determined to make it permanent, but I am getting badgered, heckled, sworn at, called names, and I am not going to put up with this sort of activity. I have asked this person, twice to stop with the messages and he still continues. I don't need it! I didn't post in roll call because I left my home very early this morning to co-announce a pro rodeo at our state fair and I just got home. I was going to post in roll call tonight, but instead, I am deleting my account. I am a Christian man and quite frankly not going to be treated or talked to in the manner. If this is to be a support group, doing so in this manner is not the way to do it and certainly not how I am going to accept this type of messages. I have the loving support of my family, friends, and of my Lord. Goodbye KTC!
I can't really comment on the nature of this other person's messages as I am not privy to them. Regardless, you're early in your quit and you found an excuse to skip roll. That should set off red lights and alarms for any quitter worth their salt.
Exchange digits with members of your group. Heck PM me and we can swap. The you can call or text your commitment to be nicotine free. No excuses needed.
Sounds to me like someone tried to help you out by showing some brotherhood and accountability. Maybe you should be saying thank you to the person that's obviously more invested in your quit than you are.
Or, stomp out of the life raft and swim with the sharks on your own. It's your life man, I'm just living in it.
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I am five days into my quit and doing quite well. I am determined to make it permanent, but I am getting badgered, heckled, sworn at, called names, and I am not going to put up with this sort of activity. I have asked this person, twice to stop with the messages and he still continues. I don't need it! I didn't post in roll call because I left my home very early this morning to co-announce a pro rodeo at our state fair and I just got home. I was going to post in roll call tonight, but instead, I am deleting my account. I am a Christian man and quite frankly not going to be treated or talked to in the manner. If this is to be a support group, doing so in this manner is not the way to do it and certainly not how I am going to accept this type of messages. I have the loving support of my family, friends, and of my Lord. Goodbye KTC!
Alrighty boys and girls. Grab a cup of coffee. Its lesson time. I am the one referred to here by PPM. All you that step through the doors of KTC are hereby notified that this is an accountability group. Just like I informed PPM of when he hadn't posted roll on the 18th. Told him as an accountability group we 1) Quit with one another, 2) we walk through the suck of withdrawals together, 3) we watch over one another and that was why I messaged him about posting roll. He posted but then didn't respond back with a thank you, screw you, or anything. No problem. I went on to tell him what I would assume to be simply understood. And these words of advise are actually all over KTC. As addicts, the first thing we do when we wake up is to satisfy those nic withdrawals from sleeping. So we replace that behavior with the behavior of Quitting by posting roll first thing. Which is giving our promise to not use nic and leaves non of our day uncovered by our promise. I really figured that he received that info and would step up.
But no. Yesterday he did not post. I and others hit him up. No response. Until after 11 pm. He unloaded saying as a Christian he did not like the cursing by me or on KTC, that he was a Christian, and that he had been at rodeo announcing. So it seems my response back has caused him to walk out. I reminded him of what we do here, pointed out that he had been an addict for 38 years and as a Christian he sees the problem is cussing, not addiction, and that unless all that he had available all day was a rotary telephone the way I see it was he was not only making excuses but he is actually a fucking liar. He apparently didn't like conversing with me once he found out I am a Christian as well. I asked him to note all the scriptures about your body not being your own and then find all the scriptures about cussing. And he would soon find out that God is more concerned about our bodies not being slaves to nicotine. Or any thing else for that matter. I didn't out right call him a hypocrite but said folks that wave the Christian banner and can't tolerate a certain behavior when they obviously are holding on to a much bigger issue, are hypocrites. Its passing wrongful judgment.
I also told him that to borrow a biblical picture, addiction puts a veil up before I eyes. It hides the truth from us. Only after walking down the road of Quit for a while can we first begin to see all that this horrible addiction has done to us and stolen from us. I also told him, I, like him, spent years praying about this sinful addiction. But that nothing changed. I finally realized that God was not going to just take it away. And Im glad he didn't. He knew that not only was I actually capable of it on my own, ( with KTC of course) but that also that would deprive me of the joy, satisfaction, and pride of standing up and taking my freedom back. And Im sure God is proud of me for doing so. Wouldn't parents also desire the same steps by their own children in difficulties. The struggle develops, strengthens, and matures those that go through it. But he told me he wouldn't stand by and take someone putting his God down. Im not sure if that is a response of a severely self-righteous Christian or an addict. I guess both.
So, I am certainly not the wisest person here at KTC, but I've definitely learned some lessons on my personal road of Quit. And since I hit 3 years Quit in 5 days I think I have learned wisdom to share. I love KTC. I love this place for its brutal honesty and openness. I actually wish the Church were more like KTC. No pretense. No fakeness. We all know what each of us are. Addicts. Ive spent 35 years as an addict. Most of that in church. Even dipped in church. Heard many condemn nicotine addicts and then go out back for a dip/smoke. I would still be dealing with the addiction in that environment. Don't get me wrong, Im not preaching against the church. Im saying don't let that hypocrisy prevent you from being Quit. Not just Christians, but everyone needs to see and know that breaking the chains of addiction comes from stepping up and taking that Day 1. The nicotine addicts around us are going through life as zombies. They need to see real life examples of free people. Live this nightmare long enough and it doesn't seem possible. Do not put up any barriers to your success. Again, I liken KTC to what church should be, real people having each others backs for real.
Galatians 4:16 Have I then become your enemy by telling you the truth ? In PPH's eyes that would be a yes. How about you?
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I am five days into my quit and doing quite well. I am determined to make it permanent, but I am getting badgered, heckled, sworn at, called names, and I am not going to put up with this sort of activity. I have asked this person, twice to stop with the messages and he still continues. I don't need it! I didn't post in roll call because I left my home very early this morning to co-announce a pro rodeo at our state fair and I just got home. I was going to post in roll call tonight, but instead, I am deleting my account. I am a Christian man and quite frankly not going to be treated or talked to in the manner. If this is to be a support group, doing so in this manner is not the way to do it and certainly not how I am going to accept this type of messages. I have the loving support of my family, friends, and of my Lord. Goodbye KTC!
Alrighty boys and girls. Grab a cup of coffee. Its lesson time. I am the one referred to here by PPM. All you that step through the doors of KTC are hereby notified that this is an accountability group. Just like I informed PPM of when he hadn't posted roll on the 18th. Told him as an accountability group we 1) Quit with one another, 2) we walk through the suck of withdrawals together, 3) we watch over one another and that was why I messaged him about posting roll. He posted but then didn't respond back with a thank you, screw you, or anything. No problem. I went on to tell him what I would assume to be simply understood. And these words of advise are actually all over KTC. As addicts, the first thing we do when we wake up is to satisfy those nic withdrawals from sleeping. So we replace that behavior with the behavior of Quitting by posting roll first thing. Which is giving our promise to not use nic and leaves non of our day uncovered by our promise. I really figured that he received that info and would step up.
But no. Yesterday he did not post. I and others hit him up. No response. Until after 11 pm. He unloaded saying as a Christian he did not like the cursing by me or on KTC, that he was a Christian, and that he had been at rodeo announcing. So it seems my response back has caused him to walk out. I reminded him of what we do here, pointed out that he had been an addict for 38 years and as a Christian he sees the problem is cussing, not addiction, and that unless all that he had available all day was a rotary telephone the way I see it was he was not only making excuses but he is actually a fucking liar. He apparently didn't like conversing with me once he found out I am a Christian as well. I asked him to note all the scriptures about your body not being your own and then find all the scriptures about cussing. And he would soon find out that God is more concerned about our bodies not being slaves to nicotine. Or any thing else for that matter. I didn't out right call him a hypocrite but said folks that wave the Christian banner and can't tolerate a certain behavior when they obviously are holding on to a much bigger issue, are hypocrites. Its passing wrongful judgment.
I also told him that to borrow a biblical picture, addiction puts a veil up before I eyes. It hides the truth from us. Only after walking down the road of Quit for a while can we first begin to see all that this horrible addiction has done to us and stolen from us. I also told him, I, like him, spent years praying about this sinful addiction. But that nothing changed. I finally realized that God was not going to just take it away. And Im glad he didn't. He knew that not only was I actually capable of it on my own, ( with KTC of course) but that also that would deprive me of the joy, satisfaction, and pride of standing up and taking my freedom back. And Im sure God is proud of me for doing so. Wouldn't parents also desire the same steps by their own children in difficulties. The struggle develops, strengthens, and matures those that go through it. But he told me he wouldn't stand by and take someone putting his God down. Im not sure if that is a response of a severely self-righteous Christian or an addict. I guess both.
So, I am certainly not the wisest person here at KTC, but I've definitely learned some lessons on my personal road of Quit. And since I hit 3 years Quit in 5 days I think I have learned wisdom to share. I love KTC. I love this place for its brutal honesty and openness. I actually wish the Church were more like KTC. No pretense. No fakeness. We all know what each of us are. Addicts. Ive spent 35 years as an addict. Most of that in church. Even dipped in church. Heard many condemn nicotine addicts and then go out back for a dip/smoke. I would still be dealing with the addiction in that environment. Don't get me wrong, Im not preaching against the church. Im saying don't let that hypocrisy prevent you from being Quit. Not just Christians, but everyone needs to see and know that breaking the chains of addiction comes from stepping up and taking that Day 1. The nicotine addicts around us are going through life as zombies. They need to see real life examples of free people. Live this nightmare long enough and it doesn't seem possible. Do not put up any barriers to your success. Again, I liken KTC to what church should be, real people having each others backs for real.
Galatians 4:16 Have I then become your enemy by telling you the truth ? In PPH's eyes that would be a yes. How about you?
This is one of the best things I've ever read on KTC.
I hope he comes back to read this. You are a great man Grat for sharing this.
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I am five days into my quit and doing quite well. I am determined to make it permanent, but I am getting badgered, heckled, sworn at, called names, and I am not going to put up with this sort of activity. I have asked this person, twice to stop with the messages and he still continues. I don't need it! I didn't post in roll call because I left my home very early this morning to co-announce a pro rodeo at our state fair and I just got home. I was going to post in roll call tonight, but instead, I am deleting my account. I am a Christian man and quite frankly not going to be treated or talked to in the manner. If this is to be a support group, doing so in this manner is not the way to do it and certainly not how I am going to accept this type of messages. I have the loving support of my family, friends, and of my Lord. Goodbye KTC!
Alrighty boys and girls. Grab a cup of coffee. Its lesson time. I am the one referred to here by PPM. All you that step through the doors of KTC are hereby notified that this is an accountability group. Just like I informed PPM of when he hadn't posted roll on the 18th. Told him as an accountability group we 1) Quit with one another, 2) we walk through the suck of withdrawals together, 3) we watch over one another and that was why I messaged him about posting roll. He posted but then didn't respond back with a thank you, screw you, or anything. No problem. I went on to tell him what I would assume to be simply understood. And these words of advise are actually all over KTC. As addicts, the first thing we do when we wake up is to satisfy those nic withdrawals from sleeping. So we replace that behavior with the behavior of Quitting by posting roll first thing. Which is giving our promise to not use nic and leaves non of our day uncovered by our promise. I really figured that he received that info and would step up.
But no. Yesterday he did not post. I and others hit him up. No response. Until after 11 pm. He unloaded saying as a Christian he did not like the cursing by me or on KTC, that he was a Christian, and that he had been at rodeo announcing. So it seems my response back has caused him to walk out. I reminded him of what we do here, pointed out that he had been an addict for 38 years and as a Christian he sees the problem is cussing, not addiction, and that unless all that he had available all day was a rotary telephone the way I see it was he was not only making excuses but he is actually a fucking liar. He apparently didn't like conversing with me once he found out I am a Christian as well. I asked him to note all the scriptures about your body not being your own and then find all the scriptures about cussing. And he would soon find out that God is more concerned about our bodies not being slaves to nicotine. Or any thing else for that matter. I didn't out right call him a hypocrite but said folks that wave the Christian banner and can't tolerate a certain behavior when they obviously are holding on to a much bigger issue, are hypocrites. Its passing wrongful judgment.
I also told him that to borrow a biblical picture, addiction puts a veil up before I eyes. It hides the truth from us. Only after walking down the road of Quit for a while can we first begin to see all that this horrible addiction has done to us and stolen from us. I also told him, I, like him, spent years praying about this sinful addiction. But that nothing changed. I finally realized that God was not going to just take it away. And Im glad he didn't. He knew that not only was I actually capable of it on my own, ( with KTC of course) but that also that would deprive me of the joy, satisfaction, and pride of standing up and taking my freedom back. And Im sure God is proud of me for doing so. Wouldn't parents also desire the same steps by their own children in difficulties. The struggle develops, strengthens, and matures those that go through it. But he told me he wouldn't stand by and take someone putting his God down. Im not sure if that is a response of a severely self-righteous Christian or an addict. I guess both.
So, I am certainly not the wisest person here at KTC, but I've definitely learned some lessons on my personal road of Quit. And since I hit 3 years Quit in 5 days I think I have learned wisdom to share. I love KTC. I love this place for its brutal honesty and openness. I actually wish the Church were more like KTC. No pretense. No fakeness. We all know what each of us are. Addicts. Ive spent 35 years as an addict. Most of that in church. Even dipped in church. Heard many condemn nicotine addicts and then go out back for a dip/smoke. I would still be dealing with the addiction in that environment. Don't get me wrong, Im not preaching against the church. Im saying don't let that hypocrisy prevent you from being Quit. Not just Christians, but everyone needs to see and know that breaking the chains of addiction comes from stepping up and taking that Day 1. The nicotine addicts around us are going through life as zombies. They need to see real life examples of free people. Live this nightmare long enough and it doesn't seem possible. Do not put up any barriers to your success. Again, I liken KTC to what church should be, real people having each others backs for real.
Galatians 4:16 Have I then become your enemy by telling you the truth ? In PPH's eyes that would be a yes. How about you?
You sugar coat things pretty well to make yourself look good, instead of posting the truth. You and I both know what what sent to me via private message on FB. I don't need you or this group cussing at me, going the hypocrite route, basically telling me that I was putting my Christianity in the way of my quit, telling me that God was not going to heal me from this habit, your namecalling with nasty words. It is because of you that I have tried to find a delete profile option, so now I am asking for an administrator to delete my account immediately. I am now 6 days into my quit and doing quite well. Thank you very much.
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Who is an admin on here? I am requesting my account be permanently deleted, please.
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I am five days into my quit and doing quite well. I am determined to make it permanent, but I am getting badgered, heckled, sworn at, called names, and I am not going to put up with this sort of activity. I have asked this person, twice to stop with the messages and he still continues. I don't need it! I didn't post in roll call because I left my home very early this morning to co-announce a pro rodeo at our state fair and I just got home. I was going to post in roll call tonight, but instead, I am deleting my account. I am a Christian man and quite frankly not going to be treated or talked to in the manner. If this is to be a support group, doing so in this manner is not the way to do it and certainly not how I am going to accept this type of messages. I have the loving support of my family, friends, and of my Lord. Goodbye KTC!
Alrighty boys and girls. Grab a cup of coffee. Its lesson time. I am the one referred to here by PPM. All you that step through the doors of KTC are hereby notified that this is an accountability group. Just like I informed PPM of when he hadn't posted roll on the 18th. Told him as an accountability group we 1) Quit with one another, 2) we walk through the suck of withdrawals together, 3) we watch over one another and that was why I messaged him about posting roll. He posted but then didn't respond back with a thank you, screw you, or anything. No problem. I went on to tell him what I would assume to be simply understood. And these words of advise are actually all over KTC. As addicts, the first thing we do when we wake up is to satisfy those nic withdrawals from sleeping. So we replace that behavior with the behavior of Quitting by posting roll first thing. Which is giving our promise to not use nic and leaves non of our day uncovered by our promise. I really figured that he received that info and would step up.
But no. Yesterday he did not post. I and others hit him up. No response. Until after 11 pm. He unloaded saying as a Christian he did not like the cursing by me or on KTC, that he was a Christian, and that he had been at rodeo announcing. So it seems my response back has caused him to walk out. I reminded him of what we do here, pointed out that he had been an addict for 38 years and as a Christian he sees the problem is cussing, not addiction, and that unless all that he had available all day was a rotary telephone the way I see it was he was not only making excuses but he is actually a fucking liar. He apparently didn't like conversing with me once he found out I am a Christian as well. I asked him to note all the scriptures about your body not being your own and then find all the scriptures about cussing. And he would soon find out that God is more concerned about our bodies not being slaves to nicotine. Or any thing else for that matter. I didn't out right call him a hypocrite but said folks that wave the Christian banner and can't tolerate a certain behavior when they obviously are holding on to a much bigger issue, are hypocrites. Its passing wrongful judgment.
I also told him that to borrow a biblical picture, addiction puts a veil up before I eyes. It hides the truth from us. Only after walking down the road of Quit for a while can we first begin to see all that this horrible addiction has done to us and stolen from us. I also told him, I, like him, spent years praying about this sinful addiction. But that nothing changed. I finally realized that God was not going to just take it away. And Im glad he didn't. He knew that not only was I actually capable of it on my own, ( with KTC of course) but that also that would deprive me of the joy, satisfaction, and pride of standing up and taking my freedom back. And Im sure God is proud of me for doing so. Wouldn't parents also desire the same steps by their own children in difficulties. The struggle develops, strengthens, and matures those that go through it. But he told me he wouldn't stand by and take someone putting his God down. Im not sure if that is a response of a severely self-righteous Christian or an addict. I guess both.
So, I am certainly not the wisest person here at KTC, but I've definitely learned some lessons on my personal road of Quit. And since I hit 3 years Quit in 5 days I think I have learned wisdom to share. I love KTC. I love this place for its brutal honesty and openness. I actually wish the Church were more like KTC. No pretense. No fakeness. We all know what each of us are. Addicts. Ive spent 35 years as an addict. Most of that in church. Even dipped in church. Heard many condemn nicotine addicts and then go out back for a dip/smoke. I would still be dealing with the addiction in that environment. Don't get me wrong, Im not preaching against the church. Im saying don't let that hypocrisy prevent you from being Quit. Not just Christians, but everyone needs to see and know that breaking the chains of addiction comes from stepping up and taking that Day 1. The nicotine addicts around us are going through life as zombies. They need to see real life examples of free people. Live this nightmare long enough and it doesn't seem possible. Do not put up any barriers to your success. Again, I liken KTC to what church should be, real people having each others backs for real.
Galatians 4:16 Have I then become your enemy by telling you the truth ? In PPH's eyes that would be a yes. How about you?
You sugar coat things pretty well to make yourself look good, instead of posting the truth. You and I both know what what sent to me via private message on FB. I don't need you or this group cussing at me, going the hypocrite route, basically telling me that I was putting my Christianity in the way of my quit, telling me that God was not going to heal me from this habit, your namecalling with nasty words. It is because of you that I have tried to find a delete profile option, so now I am asking for an administrator to delete my account immediately. I am now 6 days into my quit and doing quite well. Thank you very much.
6 days?
Congrats on that. It is no small feat. A word of caution though, you've only just begun on what is a new journey each and every day. Posted 598 today and I'm still not cured. Maybe day 6 is part of why you're reacting they way you are. Nic rage can be sneaky.
Take the good stuff, ignore the bad. But post roll, first thing every day.
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I am five days into my quit and doing quite well. I am determined to make it permanent, but I am getting badgered, heckled, sworn at, called names, and I am not going to put up with this sort of activity. I have asked this person, twice to stop with the messages and he still continues. I don't need it! I didn't post in roll call because I left my home very early this morning to co-announce a pro rodeo at our state fair and I just got home. I was going to post in roll call tonight, but instead, I am deleting my account. I am a Christian man and quite frankly not going to be treated or talked to in the manner. If this is to be a support group, doing so in this manner is not the way to do it and certainly not how I am going to accept this type of messages. I have the loving support of my family, friends, and of my Lord. Goodbye KTC!
Alrighty boys and girls. Grab a cup of coffee. Its lesson time. I am the one referred to here by PPM. All you that step through the doors of KTC are hereby notified that this is an accountability group. Just like I informed PPM of when he hadn't posted roll on the 18th. Told him as an accountability group we 1) Quit with one another, 2) we walk through the suck of withdrawals together, 3) we watch over one another and that was why I messaged him about posting roll. He posted but then didn't respond back with a thank you, screw you, or anything. No problem. I went on to tell him what I would assume to be simply understood. And these words of advise are actually all over KTC. As addicts, the first thing we do when we wake up is to satisfy those nic withdrawals from sleeping. So we replace that behavior with the behavior of Quitting by posting roll first thing. Which is giving our promise to not use nic and leaves non of our day uncovered by our promise. I really figured that he received that info and would step up.
But no. Yesterday he did not post. I and others hit him up. No response. Until after 11 pm. He unloaded saying as a Christian he did not like the cursing by me or on KTC, that he was a Christian, and that he had been at rodeo announcing. So it seems my response back has caused him to walk out. I reminded him of what we do here, pointed out that he had been an addict for 38 years and as a Christian he sees the problem is cussing, not addiction, and that unless all that he had available all day was a rotary telephone the way I see it was he was not only making excuses but he is actually a fucking liar. He apparently didn't like conversing with me once he found out I am a Christian as well. I asked him to note all the scriptures about your body not being your own and then find all the scriptures about cussing. And he would soon find out that God is more concerned about our bodies not being slaves to nicotine. Or any thing else for that matter. I didn't out right call him a hypocrite but said folks that wave the Christian banner and can't tolerate a certain behavior when they obviously are holding on to a much bigger issue, are hypocrites. Its passing wrongful judgment.
I also told him that to borrow a biblical picture, addiction puts a veil up before I eyes. It hides the truth from us. Only after walking down the road of Quit for a while can we first begin to see all that this horrible addiction has done to us and stolen from us. I also told him, I, like him, spent years praying about this sinful addiction. But that nothing changed. I finally realized that God was not going to just take it away. And Im glad he didn't. He knew that not only was I actually capable of it on my own, ( with KTC of course) but that also that would deprive me of the joy, satisfaction, and pride of standing up and taking my freedom back. And Im sure God is proud of me for doing so. Wouldn't parents also desire the same steps by their own children in difficulties. The struggle develops, strengthens, and matures those that go through it. But he told me he wouldn't stand by and take someone putting his God down. Im not sure if that is a response of a severely self-righteous Christian or an addict. I guess both.
So, I am certainly not the wisest person here at KTC, but I've definitely learned some lessons on my personal road of Quit. And since I hit 3 years Quit in 5 days I think I have learned wisdom to share. I love KTC. I love this place for its brutal honesty and openness. I actually wish the Church were more like KTC. No pretense. No fakeness. We all know what each of us are. Addicts. Ive spent 35 years as an addict. Most of that in church. Even dipped in church. Heard many condemn nicotine addicts and then go out back for a dip/smoke. I would still be dealing with the addiction in that environment. Don't get me wrong, Im not preaching against the church. Im saying don't let that hypocrisy prevent you from being Quit. Not just Christians, but everyone needs to see and know that breaking the chains of addiction comes from stepping up and taking that Day 1. The nicotine addicts around us are going through life as zombies. They need to see real life examples of free people. Live this nightmare long enough and it doesn't seem possible. Do not put up any barriers to your success. Again, I liken KTC to what church should be, real people having each others backs for real.
Galatians 4:16 Have I then become your enemy by telling you the truth ? In PPH's eyes that would be a yes. How about you?
You sugar coat things pretty well to make yourself look good, instead of posting the truth. You and I both know what what sent to me via private message on FB. I don't need you or this group cussing at me, going the hypocrite route, basically telling me that I was putting my Christianity in the way of my quit, telling me that God was not going to heal me from this habit, your namecalling with nasty words. It is because of you that I have tried to find a delete profile option, so now I am asking for an administrator to delete my account immediately. I am now 6 days into my quit and doing quite well. Thank you very much.
6 days?
Congrats on that. It is no small feat. A word of caution though, you've only just begun on what is a new journey each and every day. Posted 598 today and I'm still not cured. Maybe day 6 is part of why you're reacting they way you are. Nic rage can be sneaky.
Take the good stuff, ignore the bad. But post roll, first thing every day.
I have known Gdub for almost 3 years. He is a good man and has nothing but your best interest at heart PPM. You may not always like the way a message is delivered, but it is whats in the message that counts.
You are six days in and that is no small feat, BUT you are missing roll. It was noticed and you were called out. Be glad someone is looking out for your ass you. I have a tendency to swear ALOT.
We have nothing but our word, our accountability and our balls here. Not posting roll shows a lack of all three.
Come join ole Razd on the porch in the extra rocking chair and have a nice tall glass of KTC kool-aid.
You can do this and you are gonna make it.
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I am five days into my quit and doing quite well. I am determined to make it permanent, but I am getting badgered, heckled, sworn at, called names, and I am not going to put up with this sort of activity. I have asked this person, twice to stop with the messages and he still continues. I don't need it! I didn't post in roll call because I left my home very early this morning to co-announce a pro rodeo at our state fair and I just got home. I was going to post in roll call tonight, but instead, I am deleting my account. I am a Christian man and quite frankly not going to be treated or talked to in the manner. If this is to be a support group, doing so in this manner is not the way to do it and certainly not how I am going to accept this type of messages. I have the loving support of my family, friends, and of my Lord. Goodbye KTC!
Alrighty boys and girls. Grab a cup of coffee. Its lesson time. I am the one referred to here by PPM. All you that step through the doors of KTC are hereby notified that this is an accountability group. Just like I informed PPM of when he hadn't posted roll on the 18th. Told him as an accountability group we 1) Quit with one another, 2) we walk through the suck of withdrawals together, 3) we watch over one another and that was why I messaged him about posting roll. He posted but then didn't respond back with a thank you, screw you, or anything. No problem. I went on to tell him what I would assume to be simply understood. And these words of advise are actually all over KTC. As addicts, the first thing we do when we wake up is to satisfy those nic withdrawals from sleeping. So we replace that behavior with the behavior of Quitting by posting roll first thing. Which is giving our promise to not use nic and leaves non of our day uncovered by our promise. I really figured that he received that info and would step up.
But no. Yesterday he did not post. I and others hit him up. No response. Until after 11 pm. He unloaded saying as a Christian he did not like the cursing by me or on KTC, that he was a Christian, and that he had been at rodeo announcing. So it seems my response back has caused him to walk out. I reminded him of what we do here, pointed out that he had been an addict for 38 years and as a Christian he sees the problem is cussing, not addiction, and that unless all that he had available all day was a rotary telephone the way I see it was he was not only making excuses but he is actually a fucking liar. He apparently didn't like conversing with me once he found out I am a Christian as well. I asked him to note all the scriptures about your body not being your own and then find all the scriptures about cussing. And he would soon find out that God is more concerned about our bodies not being slaves to nicotine. Or any thing else for that matter. I didn't out right call him a hypocrite but said folks that wave the Christian banner and can't tolerate a certain behavior when they obviously are holding on to a much bigger issue, are hypocrites. Its passing wrongful judgment.
I also told him that to borrow a biblical picture, addiction puts a veil up before I eyes. It hides the truth from us. Only after walking down the road of Quit for a while can we first begin to see all that this horrible addiction has done to us and stolen from us. I also told him, I, like him, spent years praying about this sinful addiction. But that nothing changed. I finally realized that God was not going to just take it away. And Im glad he didn't. He knew that not only was I actually capable of it on my own, ( with KTC of course) but that also that would deprive me of the joy, satisfaction, and pride of standing up and taking my freedom back. And Im sure God is proud of me for doing so. Wouldn't parents also desire the same steps by their own children in difficulties. The struggle develops, strengthens, and matures those that go through it. But he told me he wouldn't stand by and take someone putting his God down. Im not sure if that is a response of a severely self-righteous Christian or an addict. I guess both.
So, I am certainly not the wisest person here at KTC, but I've definitely learned some lessons on my personal road of Quit. And since I hit 3 years Quit in 5 days I think I have learned wisdom to share. I love KTC. I love this place for its brutal honesty and openness. I actually wish the Church were more like KTC. No pretense. No fakeness. We all know what each of us are. Addicts. Ive spent 35 years as an addict. Most of that in church. Even dipped in church. Heard many condemn nicotine addicts and then go out back for a dip/smoke. I would still be dealing with the addiction in that environment. Don't get me wrong, Im not preaching against the church. Im saying don't let that hypocrisy prevent you from being Quit. Not just Christians, but everyone needs to see and know that breaking the chains of addiction comes from stepping up and taking that Day 1. The nicotine addicts around us are going through life as zombies. They need to see real life examples of free people. Live this nightmare long enough and it doesn't seem possible. Do not put up any barriers to your success. Again, I liken KTC to what church should be, real people having each others backs for real.
Galatians 4:16 Have I then become your enemy by telling you the truth ? In PPH's eyes that would be a yes. How about you?
You sugar coat things pretty well to make yourself look good, instead of posting the truth. You and I both know what what sent to me via private message on FB. I don't need you or this group cussing at me, going the hypocrite route, basically telling me that I was putting my Christianity in the way of my quit, telling me that God was not going to heal me from this habit, your namecalling with nasty words. It is because of you that I have tried to find a delete profile option, so now I am asking for an administrator to delete my account immediately. I am now 6 days into my quit and doing quite well. Thank you very much.
Folks this is nothing more than a rare breed of special butterfly. Hidden within all of the righteous indignation and moral superiority is the message of "I'm 6 days quit, doing just fine and I don't need to do it your way."
I think we've all seen this a time or two.
Now ProPhotoMan, you might believe that your opposition to the "name calling cussing" lies within your faith, but I assure you that it is your addict brain doing everything it can to make up excuses to get you back on the can.
The idea that your six days has you anywhere close to cured is simply not true. Our Savior was tempted in the wilderness for forty days. How about you stick around for that? Maybe you're mindset will change when you see the difference in your life start to take place a little further out.
Now I'm not making fun of you with the Special Butterfly comment. What I mean by that, is your attitude is very common amongst the addicts that come to this place. They want to do things their way, they get annoyed with little aspects here and they rationalize any excuse to leave. Pal, you aren't special or different than any rank addict. Luckily though, that's what this place is built for.
Stick it out and you'll see what I mean.
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Hey everyone, I'm brand new to the community here and I quit a week ago today. A week ago I arrived in Finland to visit family and had with me in my carry on what would be my last can of Grizzly. I had been a long cut user for about 5-6 years and started using the pouches instead over the last few months. Had a few pouches left when I arrived at my parents house, and sure enough by the end of my first day there it was all gone. I've been planning this to be my quitting time for awhile now, as chew isn't even available in Finland so I figured even though I might want a new can, it will be impossible to get. I go back home to the US in another couple of weeks, and plan to never buy a can again. The first few days with the physical withdrawal were pretty tough, I actually got a feeling of a really bad cold, but with ibuprofen that initially passed. Now I'm spending lots of time exercising and in the sauna to help out even more, and found this great group while researching how quitting affects others. Looking forward to interacting with all of you!
I would say going all the way to Finland to quit is quit extreme! This is an awesome place to come for daily support and accountability! Stick with the quit and be a better person for it. Good luck!
Thanks man! Yeah it is a little extreme lol but it's a yearly trip I make so figured it's the best chance at success! Still got two weeks to go with no dip until I head home so hopefully all the cravings will be gone by then. Toughest part will be the 5 hour drive I have from the airport to my apartment, I'm just so used to driving with a dip in. I know I'll be able to pull through though, but no doubt I'll be thinking about it heading into the gas station.
I have bad news for you. I have been quit since 2005. Lost a few things because of dip. Wake every morning in pain because of dip. And yes, I even think it about it most every day despite all that. The difference is it no longer controls me so thinking about it is simply thinking about it. At any rate, good luck and quit strong!
ODT
ODT, congrats on being quit for so long, that's awesome! Thanks for your kind words, I haven't really had that many cravings at all luckily. Once I land at the airport and begin my drive back I'll be tempted to buy a can for the drive but I won't give in! Already planning on hitting up the Wal-Mart and seeing if they have Smokey Mountain, and I'm not even planning on using that, only if I have some crazy kind of craving going on lol. Sunflower seeds are gonna be my go-to to keep up the quit.
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I am five days into my quit and doing quite well. I am determined to make it permanent, but I am getting badgered, heckled, sworn at, called names, and I am not going to put up with this sort of activity. I have asked this person, twice to stop with the messages and he still continues. I don't need it! I didn't post in roll call because I left my home very early this morning to co-announce a pro rodeo at our state fair and I just got home. I was going to post in roll call tonight, but instead, I am deleting my account. I am a Christian man and quite frankly not going to be treated or talked to in the manner. If this is to be a support group, doing so in this manner is not the way to do it and certainly not how I am going to accept this type of messages. I have the loving support of my family, friends, and of my Lord. Goodbye KTC!
Alrighty boys and girls. Grab a cup of coffee. Its lesson time. I am the one referred to here by PPM. All you that step through the doors of KTC are hereby notified that this is an accountability group. Just like I informed PPM of when he hadn't posted roll on the 18th. Told him as an accountability group we 1) Quit with one another, 2) we walk through the suck of withdrawals together, 3) we watch over one another and that was why I messaged him about posting roll. He posted but then didn't respond back with a thank you, screw you, or anything. No problem. I went on to tell him what I would assume to be simply understood. And these words of advise are actually all over KTC. As addicts, the first thing we do when we wake up is to satisfy those nic withdrawals from sleeping. So we replace that behavior with the behavior of Quitting by posting roll first thing. Which is giving our promise to not use nic and leaves non of our day uncovered by our promise. I really figured that he received that info and would step up.
But no. Yesterday he did not post. I and others hit him up. No response. Until after 11 pm. He unloaded saying as a Christian he did not like the cursing by me or on KTC, that he was a Christian, and that he had been at rodeo announcing. So it seems my response back has caused him to walk out. I reminded him of what we do here, pointed out that he had been an addict for 38 years and as a Christian he sees the problem is cussing, not addiction, and that unless all that he had available all day was a rotary telephone the way I see it was he was not only making excuses but he is actually a fucking liar. He apparently didn't like conversing with me once he found out I am a Christian as well. I asked him to note all the scriptures about your body not being your own and then find all the scriptures about cussing. And he would soon find out that God is more concerned about our bodies not being slaves to nicotine. Or any thing else for that matter. I didn't out right call him a hypocrite but said folks that wave the Christian banner and can't tolerate a certain behavior when they obviously are holding on to a much bigger issue, are hypocrites. Its passing wrongful judgment.
I also told him that to borrow a biblical picture, addiction puts a veil up before I eyes. It hides the truth from us. Only after walking down the road of Quit for a while can we first begin to see all that this horrible addiction has done to us and stolen from us. I also told him, I, like him, spent years praying about this sinful addiction. But that nothing changed. I finally realized that God was not going to just take it away. And Im glad he didn't. He knew that not only was I actually capable of it on my own, ( with KTC of course) but that also that would deprive me of the joy, satisfaction, and pride of standing up and taking my freedom back. And Im sure God is proud of me for doing so. Wouldn't parents also desire the same steps by their own children in difficulties. The struggle develops, strengthens, and matures those that go through it. But he told me he wouldn't stand by and take someone putting his God down. Im not sure if that is a response of a severely self-righteous Christian or an addict. I guess both.
So, I am certainly not the wisest person here at KTC, but I've definitely learned some lessons on my personal road of Quit. And since I hit 3 years Quit in 5 days I think I have learned wisdom to share. I love KTC. I love this place for its brutal honesty and openness. I actually wish the Church were more like KTC. No pretense. No fakeness. We all know what each of us are. Addicts. Ive spent 35 years as an addict. Most of that in church. Even dipped in church. Heard many condemn nicotine addicts and then go out back for a dip/smoke. I would still be dealing with the addiction in that environment. Don't get me wrong, Im not preaching against the church. Im saying don't let that hypocrisy prevent you from being Quit. Not just Christians, but everyone needs to see and know that breaking the chains of addiction comes from stepping up and taking that Day 1. The nicotine addicts around us are going through life as zombies. They need to see real life examples of free people. Live this nightmare long enough and it doesn't seem possible. Do not put up any barriers to your success. Again, I liken KTC to what church should be, real people having each others backs for real.
Galatians 4:16 Have I then become your enemy by telling you the truth ? In PPH's eyes that would be a yes. How about you?
You sugar coat things pretty well to make yourself look good, instead of posting the truth. You and I both know what what sent to me via private message on FB. I don't need you or this group cussing at me, going the hypocrite route, basically telling me that I was putting my Christianity in the way of my quit, telling me that God was not going to heal me from this habit, your namecalling with nasty words. It is because of you that I have tried to find a delete profile option, so now I am asking for an administrator to delete my account immediately. I am now 6 days into my quit and doing quite well. Thank you very much.
6 days?
Congrats on that. It is no small feat. A word of caution though, you've only just begun on what is a new journey each and every day. Posted 598 today and I'm still not cured. Maybe day 6 is part of why you're reacting they way you are. Nic rage can be sneaky.
Take the good stuff, ignore the bad. But post roll, first thing every day.
I have known Gdub for almost 3 years. He is a good man and has nothing but your best interest at heart PPM. You may not always like the way a message is delivered, but it is whats in the message that counts.
You are six days in and that is no small feat, BUT you are missing roll. It was noticed and you were called out. Be glad someone is looking out for your ass you. I have a tendency to swear ALOT.
We have nothing but our word, our accountability and our balls here. Not posting roll shows a lack of all three.
Come join ole Razd on the porch in the extra rocking chair and have a nice tall glass of KTC kool-aid.
You can do this and you are gonna make it.
PPM, I hope you stay quit and you find your own way.
For all others: KTC can be raw, harsh and different than other aspects of our lives but the formula of accountability works. I cannot afford to ever cave and chew again, the sleepless nights worrying about cancer and financial ruin of my family. There is a saying here take what works for you and leave the rest. Post your promise and stay quit. That is the bare minimum we ask. I will do that everyday it is a small price to pay for freedom.
GDub, has been a supporter of mine, when I failed and now in my success, thank you for all you do, see you tomorrow (and congrats at almost 3years!)
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Hey yall,
Glad I found this page! I'm 28 years old and a Mama! I've been dipping since I was about 16. I've always dipped Grizzly and usually dip about 1-2 cans a day...I love it, but I hate it. Only quit once cold turkey when I was pregnant with my first and that lasted about 2 months...then I hit a deer. I want to quit sooo bad. I've come close, like from a few hours without to a day, but my withdrawals are scary. I get really angry with a short temper, shakes, all of it. It's bad...I'd appreciate any words of advice because I'm so ready to not have this taking over my life anymore...thanks yall!
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Hey yall,
Glad I found this page! I'm 28 years old and a Mama! I've been dipping since I was about 16. I've always dipped Grizzly and usually dip about 1-2 cans a day...I love it, but I hate it. Only quit once cold turkey when I was pregnant with my first and that lasted about 2 months...then I hit a deer. I want to quit sooo bad. I've come close, like from a few hours without to a day, but my withdrawals are scary. I get really angry with a short temper, shakes, all of it. It's bad...I'd appreciate any words of advice because I'm so ready to not have this taking over my life anymore...thanks yall!
If you really want to quit, you can absolutely do it. It is going to suck for a while and then it will get so much better. Go to the welcome center and learn to post roll. I would provide links, but I don't know how to do it.
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So, where the heck do I start, especially after making a horses butt outta myself? First and foremost, I owe Grat an apology! He was just trying to help, and not knowing my deep love for Jesus Christ, I took his out pouring of help for a hasty attack against me. I was so wrong, as he and others were just trying to hold me accountable. I just posted roll and yes, I am still quit on day 7. To the rest of you, just know that I am going to beat this demon called smokeless tobacco. I know there is a ton of support here. Some of you may not be a Christian or believer, some of you are. I believe I saw the post of a fallen brother for a reason and that reason brought me here, with outstretched arms and needing help. I do find some of the language a bit appalling, but I read past that and see the encouragement, the outpouring of love and support, and the accountability.
ProPhotoMan
Quit Day 7
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So, where the heck do I start, especially after making a horses butt outta myself? First and foremost, I owe Grat an apology! He was just trying to help, and not knowing my deep love for Jesus Christ, I took his out pouring of help for a hasty attack against me. I was so wrong, as he and others were just trying to hold me accountable. I just posted roll and yes, I am still quit on day 7. To the rest of you, just know that I am going to beat this demon called smokeless tobacco. I know there is a ton of support here. Some of you may not be a Christian or believer, some of you are. I believe I saw the post of a fallen brother for a reason and that reason brought me here, with outstretched arms and needing help. I do find some of the language a bit appalling, but I read past that and see the encouragement, the outpouring of love and support, and the accountability.
ProPhotoMan
Quit Day 7
Nah. No apologies necessary Bro. Glad your back. And yes, this place truly is a God send. There really is something synergistic happening here. Together we are stronger than we are individually. We are quitting together and we are beating the demon of smokeless tobacco. Day 7 eh ? I remember how proud I was to post my Day 7. I'm sure your like me. Day 7 was a new record. Day 8 was when I broke my previous day's record. Each day is a new record. Such an awesome feeling to wake up each morning and post a new larger number of days Quit. Congrats on 1 week Bro. Here's to Day 8. Proud to be Quit with you.
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Hey yall,
Glad I found this page! I'm 28 years old and a Mama! I've been dipping since I was about 16. I've always dipped Grizzly and usually dip about 1-2 cans a day...I love it, but I hate it. Only quit once cold turkey when I was pregnant with my first and that lasted about 2 months...then I hit a deer. I want to quit sooo bad. I've come close, like from a few hours without to a day, but my withdrawals are scary. I get really angry with a short temper, shakes, all of it. It's bad...I'd appreciate any words of advice because I'm so ready to not have this taking over my life anymore...thanks yall!
If you really want to quit, you can absolutely do it. It is going to suck for a while and then it will get so much better. Go to the welcome center and learn to post roll. I would provide links, but I don't know how to do it.
topic/1003072/1/#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1003072/1/#new)
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Hey yall,
Glad I found this page! I'm 28 years old and a Mama! I've been dipping since I was about 16. I've always dipped Grizzly and usually dip about 1-2 cans a day...I love it, but I hate it. Only quit once cold turkey when I was pregnant with my first and that lasted about 2 months...then I hit a deer. I want to quit sooo bad. I've come close, like from a few hours without to a day, but my withdrawals are scary. I get really angry with a short temper, shakes, all of it. It's bad...I'd appreciate any words of advice because I'm so ready to not have this taking over my life anymore...thanks yall!
If you really want to quit, you can absolutely do it. It is going to suck for a while and then it will get so much better. Go to the welcome center and learn to post roll. I would provide links, but I don't know how to do it.
topic/1003072/1/#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1003072/1/#new)
Already been posting roll brutha!
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So, where the heck do I start, especially after making a horses butt outta myself? First and foremost, I owe Grat an apology! He was just trying to help, and not knowing my deep love for Jesus Christ, I took his out pouring of help for a hasty attack against me. I was so wrong, as he and others were just trying to hold me accountable. I just posted roll and yes, I am still quit on day 7. To the rest of you, just know that I am going to beat this demon called smokeless tobacco. I know there is a ton of support here. Some of you may not be a Christian or believer, some of you are. I believe I saw the post of a fallen brother for a reason and that reason brought me here, with outstretched arms and needing help. I do find some of the language a bit appalling, but I read past that and see the encouragement, the outpouring of love and support, and the accountability.
ProPhotoMan
Quit Day 7
Nah. No apologies necessary Bro. Glad your back. And yes, this place truly is a God send. There really is something synergistic happening here. Together we are stronger than we are individually. We are quitting together and we are beating the demon of smokeless tobacco. Day 7 eh ? I remember how proud I was to post my Day 7. I'm sure your like me. Day 7 was a new record. Day 8 was when I broke my previous day's record. Each day is a new record. Such an awesome feeling to wake up each morning and post a new larger number of days Quit. Congrats on 1 week Bro. Here's to Day 8. Proud to be Quit with you.
Welcome to the funny farm and glad you decided to stick around. Take what you need to stay quit and ignore the rest it is just noise, and try not to lick the windows in Nov, the pleebs just washed them two days ago.....
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So, where the heck do I start, especially after making a horses butt outta myself? First and foremost, I owe Grat an apology! He was just trying to help, and not knowing my deep love for Jesus Christ, I took his out pouring of help for a hasty attack against me. I was so wrong, as he and others were just trying to hold me accountable. I just posted roll and yes, I am still quit on day 7. To the rest of you, just know that I am going to beat this demon called smokeless tobacco. I know there is a ton of support here. Some of you may not be a Christian or believer, some of you are. I believe I saw the post of a fallen brother for a reason and that reason brought me here, with outstretched arms and needing help. I do find some of the language a bit appalling, but I read past that and see the encouragement, the outpouring of love and support, and the accountability.
ProPhotoMan
Quit Day 7
Nah. No apologies necessary Bro. Glad your back. And yes, this place truly is a God send. There really is something synergistic happening here. Together we are stronger than we are individually. We are quitting together and we are beating the demon of smokeless tobacco. Day 7 eh ? I remember how proud I was to post my Day 7. I'm sure your like me. Day 7 was a new record. Day 8 was when I broke my previous day's record. Each day is a new record. Such an awesome feeling to wake up each morning and post a new larger number of days Quit. Congrats on 1 week Bro. Here's to Day 8. Proud to be Quit with you.
Welcome to the funny farm and glad you decided to stick around. Take what you need to stay quit and ignore the rest it is just noise, and try not to lick the windows in Nov, the pleebs just washed them two days ago.....
Music to my ears!!! Glad you are back! Lucky no. 7!
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Day 5, I'm losing my shit but I know I can't dip anymore
Hopefully I can get get through the next for days and maybe
It will get easier. Any suggestions would help any fake dips to do
Or just eat seeds. Thanks this is a very helpful website
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Not sure if this is the place to ask but here goes- I'm on day 50 and feel like hell with tons of anxiety. My doctor suggested Wellbutrin and I picked up my prescription today. Anyone tried this drug? How did it help or not help you? Thanks
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Day 5, I'm losing my shit but I know I can't dip anymore
Hopefully I can get get through the next for days and maybe
It will get easier. Any suggestions would help any fake dips to do
Or just eat seeds. Thanks this is a very helpful website
Jessed10, it does get better each day.
1. Post roll every day; this is your quit group Nov HOF 2016 (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11721588/174/)
2. use anything to help you stay quit; fake chew, seeds, gum, candy, etc.
There are some pretty good fake chews out there: http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/smo ... ernatives/ (http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/smokeless-alternatives/)
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Not sure if this is the place to ask but here goes- I'm on day 50 and feel like hell with tons of anxiety. My doctor suggested Wellbutrin and I picked up my prescription today. Anyone tried this drug? How did it help or not help you? Thanks
I know there are some folks that have, check out this wildcard section:
topic/1009791/25/#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1009791/25/#new)
Stay strong
ID
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So tomorrow my plane leaves at 9:30 a.m CT for a 9 hr journey to O'Hare, my first long trip of any sort without dip handy. If anyone of you fellow quitters don't mind chatting with me a bit before I leave and will be up around then, feel free to shoot me your number in my inbox and I'll give you a quick call, it'd be really awesome! Traveling alone and just past 2 weeks dip free, got a mean canker sore on my cheek and jaw feels a bit sore still lol. It'd be nice to get to know some of you!
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So tomorrow my plane leaves at 9:30 a.m CT for a 9 hr journey to O'Hare, my first long trip of any sort without dip handy. If anyone of you fellow quitters don't mind chatting with me a bit before I leave and will be up around then, feel free to shoot me your number in my inbox and I'll give you a quick call, it'd be really awesome! Traveling alone and just past 2 weeks dip free, got a mean canker sore on my cheek and jaw feels a bit sore still lol. It'd be nice to get to know some of you!
Hey Finn, great job reaching out. I will be at work, but feel free to text me and I'll do my best to respond. You should also check in to live chat, via the main KTC page.
That travel can be tough man. Luckily, once you're on the plane, there will be no opportunity to cave. If you want some entertainment, find Chickdip's airplane spit cup story and try not to laugh out loud!
Digits on the way.
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I nearly caved today! It was a day from H E double toothpicks! Stress out the yang yang. But, I am at day 9 and not going to give into this devil powder that I call smokeless chewing tobacco. Hoping it gets better with each day and now I realize that I cannot do this alone. The private messages keep pouring in and I am utterly in amazement at the outpouring of support. Thank you!
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I nearly caved today! It was a day from H E double toothpicks! Stress out the yang yang. But, I am at day 9 and not going to give into this devil powder that I call smokeless chewing tobacco. Hoping it gets better with each day and now I realize that I cannot do this alone. The private messages keep pouring in and I am utterly in amazement at the outpouring of support. Thank you!
glad to hear you didnt but now you need to ask yourself what caused it and how to avoid it. This was a close call but what happens next time ya know? did you reach out for help from someone here or did you try it alone? remember accountability only works if you let people hold you accountable.
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I cannot post in roll today as I have fallen of the wagon. My stress level has hit my explosion point and I caved on day 11. I will be working to get off this stuff, and will post roll for day 1 when that happens. I was ready to kill someone yesterday, not literally, but you know what I mean. I don't need text messages chewing me out right now because you might not like my response. Let me work through some issues and I will be posting roll again, I hope.
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I cannot post in roll today as I have fallen of the wagon. My stress level has hit my explosion point and I caved on day 11. I will be working to get off this stuff, and will post roll for day 1 when that happens. I was ready to kill someone yesterday, not literally, but you know what I mean. I don't need text messages chewing me out right now because you might not like my response. Let me work through some issues and I will be posting roll again, I hope.
Start by getting in your group and answering the three questions:
1) What happened?
2) Why did it happen?
3) What are you going to do so it doesn't happen again?
Be honest with yourself and your group. That's the only real way to get back and stay back.
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I cannot post in roll today as I have fallen of the wagon. My stress level has hit my explosion point and I caved on day 11. I will be working to get off this stuff, and will post roll for day 1 when that happens. I was ready to kill someone yesterday, not literally, but you know what I mean. I don't need text messages chewing me out right now because you might not like my response. Let me work through some issues and I will be posting roll again, I hope.
The only issue that you need to work out is your integrity. You had half of this site bending over backwards to help you and support you and you just flipped every single one of them a bright, bold middle finger.
Is your quit really that much tougher than everyone else's? Are your problems really that much more significant? What makes you think that the stress, anxiety and craving that you're going through is any bit tougher than what everyone on this site has gone through successfully?
The difference is that you allowed yourself an out. You allowed yourself to think that you are somehow special or different. Well, you are not special or different. Your cravings, your stress and your anxiety are exactly what each and every one of us went through, or are currently struggling with. The difference is that we took breaking down off the table and we held true to our word.
You need to look in the mirror and figure out if you are tough enough. It's ok if you aren't, not everyone is. In fact, we need failures around to show an example of what will happen if we ever let our guard down. We need someone to provide mouth cancer pics and tobacco death statistics. That's the path your weakness will lead you down.
BTW, I don't give a buffalo nickle about whatever angry response you might have. I stayed quit today and you caved. The only response you could possibly have that interests me is an answer to your three cave questions, a Day 1 roll post and then sustained success. If you can't do that, then don't bother showing back up here.
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I cannot post in roll today as I have fallen of the wagon. My stress level has hit my explosion point and I caved on day 11. I will be working to get off this stuff, and will post roll for day 1 when that happens. I was ready to kill someone yesterday, not literally, but you know what I mean. I don't need text messages chewing me out right now because you might not like my response. Let me work through some issues and I will be posting roll again, I hope.
The only issue that you need to work out is your integrity. You had half of this site bending over backwards to help you and support you and you just flipped every single one of them a bright, bold middle finger.
Is your quit really that much tougher than everyone else's? Are your problems really that much more significant? What makes you think that the stress, anxiety and craving that you're going through is any bit tougher than what everyone on this site has gone through successfully?
The difference is that you allowed yourself an out. You allowed yourself to think that you are somehow special or different. Well, you are not special or different. Your cravings, your stress and your anxiety are exactly what each and every one of us went through, or are currently struggling with. The difference is that we took breaking down off the table and we held true to our word.
You need to look in the mirror and figure out if you are tough enough. It's ok if you aren't, not everyone is. In fact, we need failures around to show an example of what will happen if we ever let our guard down. We need someone to provide mouth cancer pics and tobacco death statistics. That's the path your weakness will lead you down.
BTW, I don't give a buffalo nickle about whatever angry response you might have. I stayed quit today and you caved. The only response you could possibly have that interests me is an answer to your three cave questions, a Day 1 roll post and then sustained success. If you can't do that, then don't bother showing back up here.
typical caver excuses like we all dont have stress to deal with, hell if he wants stress he can hangout with me for a week.
Why dont you man up and quit like the rest of us did and reach out when you need help, because you thought you could do it on your own and figured you didn't need the site. while you are there sitting in your chair sucking on shit in your lip the rest of us will focus on who wants help and is willing to quit without bitching out.
You need to take a long hard look in the mirror and figure out what you want cause after this you will be lucky if anyone wants to help you anymore after so many members tried their damn hardest to help you.
'Finger' 'Finger' 'Finger' 'Finger' 'Finger' 'Finger' 'Finger' 'Finger' 'Finger'
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I cannot post in roll today as I have fallen of the wagon. My stress level has hit my explosion point and I caved on day 11. I will be working to get off this stuff, and will post roll for day 1 when that happens. I was ready to kill someone yesterday, not literally, but you know what I mean. I don't need text messages chewing me out right now because you might not like my response. Let me work through some issues and I will be posting roll again, I hope.
You almost sound relieved....life just got too troublesome to just say you won't dip today... What a weak ass excuse. Imagine what the guy went through that made you take a look at this place. Yeah I mean Todd. He was at the end and he knew it. He honored his word to the end. Guess you would have said screw it gimme a dip... Don't come in here again until you take us and your quit seriously. Good luck with whatever process you think you are going to use to get to that day one in the sky... And btw, remember when I said gdub was the salt of the earth? It's because he wouldn't pull some shit stunt like this believe you me bub... Enjoy stuffin your face...
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I cannot post in roll today as I have fallen of the wagon. My stress level has hit my explosion point and I caved on day 11. I will be working to get off this stuff, and will post roll for day 1 when that happens. I was ready to kill someone yesterday, not literally, but you know what I mean. I don't need text messages chewing me out right now because you might not like my response. Let me work through some issues and I will be posting roll again, I hope.
You almost sound relieved....life just got too troublesome to just say you won't dip today... What a weak ass excuse. Imagine what the guy went through that made you take a look at this place. Yeah I mean Todd. He was at the end and he knew it. He honored his word to the end. Guess you would have said screw it gimme a dip... Don't come in here again until you take us and your quit seriously. Good luck with whatever process you think you are going to use to get to that day one in the sky... And btw, remember when I said gdub was the salt of the earth? It's because he wouldn't pull some shit stunt like this believe you me bub... Enjoy stuffin your face...
PPM. Look at Docs signature line. What does it say? It says " never again". When you post a Day 1, that's the attitude, resolve, and conviction that you must have to succeed. As in never again despite any consequences of that decision. Its not easy. And there really are consequences to that decision. You may lose friends. You may never get to go places you went before because there are smokers/dippers there. Lots of folks change stores that they used to go to buy their nicotine. Nothing in life can remain that jeopardizes your quit. This works when you have a "never again" resolve. Only then will attempts to quit be successful.
I don't really know why, but this time this really bothers me. Its not my first time to pour out myself and experience here into someone that caved and left. But you Joe, this bothers me. Maybe its because you responded to our loss of Todd/Trauma. Maybe so. Maybe I saw some of my self in you and want you to experience what I have experienced here. Freedom.
You said you were a firefighter. So am I. Professional firefighter for 23 years now. Fires are really not the main part of the job. EMS is. See lots of sick folks. Lots of dead folks. If your reading this I want you to know I was thinking about you last night. Had a call at 3 am. Folks had just got back that evening from vacation in Florida. The man woke his wife up with very loud snoring sounds she said. Probably was agonal respirations. She said he had high blood pressure and was a heavy smoker. Kinda over weight. His wife was in the room with us and maybe a daughter or granddaughter. He was in full arrest. We performed CPR for 35 minutes. It ended in us telling his wife we were sorry for her loss. Today that wife was living her first day without her husband. Today could have been a different day for that woman. If her husband had done years ago what he has known all along that he should do, he would still be here today.
We both give accountability here and agree to receive accountability for one reason. That we may live long healthy lives through the freedom we earn here. I appeal to your senses as a man, a husband, a father, a friend to others, and as a member of your community and church. Who will take your place when you are gone before your time do to this very overcome able addiction? Now is the time to change the outcome of your life.
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Day 5, I'm losing my shit but I know I can't dip anymore
Hopefully I can get get through the next for days and maybe
It will get easier. Any suggestions would help any fake dips to do
Or just eat seeds. Thanks this is a very helpful website
Hey Brotha. Sounds like you are doing things right. Man, Smokey Mountain was my life saver. Being able to stick something in my lip would kinda fake out my body. My mouth felt like it was getting a dip and it would settle down the oral fixation part of this habit/addiction. I also ate tons of ice cream nutty buddies, jerky, taffy, anything and everything. Hang in there bud, it really does get better. PM me for digits if you need them. And you do.
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Not sure if this is the place to ask but here goes- I'm on day 50 and feel like hell with tons of anxiety. My doctor suggested Wellbutrin and I picked up my prescription today. Anyone tried this drug? How did it help or not help you? Thanks
I read early on that Wellbutrin was something that could ease the stress/pain of getting free from this addiction. I didn't try it but would have had I thought this wasn't going to go well. I also read to take sleep meds to help get a good night rest. I used Tylenol pm for a pretty good while. It really made a difference. If your up all night having dip dreams or tossing/turning with frustration and anxiety, then that will carry over into your day. Do all that you can do to get a good sleep all night long. PM me if you need digits.
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I cannot post in roll today as I have fallen of the wagon. My stress level has hit my explosion point and I caved on day 11. I will be working to get off this stuff, and will post roll for day 1 when that happens. I was ready to kill someone yesterday, not literally, but you know what I mean. I don't need text messages chewing me out right now because you might not like my response. Let me work through some issues and I will be posting roll again, I hope.
You almost sound relieved....life just got too troublesome to just say you won't dip today... What a weak ass excuse. Imagine what the guy went through that made you take a look at this place. Yeah I mean Todd. He was at the end and he knew it. He honored his word to the end. Guess you would have said screw it gimme a dip... Don't come in here again until you take us and your quit seriously. Good luck with whatever process you think you are going to use to get to that day one in the sky... And btw, remember when I said gdub was the salt of the earth? It's because he wouldn't pull some shit stunt like this believe you me bub... Enjoy stuffin your face...
PPM. Look at Docs signature line. What does it say? It says " never again". When you post a Day 1, that's the attitude, resolve, and conviction that you must have to succeed. As in never again despite any consequences of that decision. Its not easy. And there really are consequences to that decision. You may lose friends. You may never get to go places you went before because there are smokers/dippers there. Lots of folks change stores that they used to go to buy their nicotine. Nothing in life can remain that jeopardizes your quit. This works when you have a "never again" resolve. Only then will attempts to quit be successful.
I don't really know why, but this time this really bothers me. Its not my first time to pour out myself and experience here into someone that caved and left. But you Joe, this bothers me. Maybe its because you responded to our loss of Todd/Trauma. Maybe so. Maybe I saw some of my self in you and want you to experience what I have experienced here. Freedom.
You said you were a firefighter. So am I. Professional firefighter for 23 years now. Fires are really not the main part of the job. EMS is. See lots of sick folks. Lots of dead folks. If your reading this I want you to know I was thinking about you last night. Had a call at 3 am. Folks had just got back that evening from vacation in Florida. The man woke his wife up with very loud snoring sounds she said. Probably was agonal respirations. She said he had high blood pressure and was a heavy smoker. Kinda over weight. His wife was in the room with us and maybe a daughter or granddaughter. He was in full arrest. We performed CPR for 35 minutes. It ended in us telling his wife we were sorry for her loss. Today that wife was living her first day without her husband. Today could have been a different day for that woman. If her husband had done years ago what he has known all along that he should do, he would still be here today.
We both give accountability here and agree to receive accountability for one reason. That we may live long healthy lives through the freedom we earn here. I appeal to your senses as a man, a husband, a father, a friend to others, and as a member of your community and church. Who will take your place when you are gone before your time do to this very overcome able addiction? Now is the time to change the outcome of your life.
You need to look very hard at yourself in the mirror is all I can say!!! You basically shit on us and we still welcomed back when you had a "change" in heart an said you really wanted to do whatever it takes to rid your life of that crap. Enjoy that "nice" fat juicy dip.
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I cannot post in roll today as I have fallen of the wagon. My stress level has hit my explosion point and I caved on day 11. I will be working to get off this stuff, and will post roll for day 1 when that happens. I was ready to kill someone yesterday, not literally, but you know what I mean. I don't need text messages chewing me out right now because you might not like my response. Let me work through some issues and I will be posting roll again, I hope.
You almost sound relieved....life just got too troublesome to just say you won't dip today... What a weak ass excuse. Imagine what the guy went through that made you take a look at this place. Yeah I mean Todd. He was at the end and he knew it. He honored his word to the end. Guess you would have said screw it gimme a dip... Don't come in here again until you take us and your quit seriously. Good luck with whatever process you think you are going to use to get to that day one in the sky... And btw, remember when I said gdub was the salt of the earth? It's because he wouldn't pull some shit stunt like this believe you me bub... Enjoy stuffin your face...
PPM. Look at Docs signature line. What does it say? It says " never again". When you post a Day 1, that's the attitude, resolve, and conviction that you must have to succeed. As in never again despite any consequences of that decision. Its not easy. And there really are consequences to that decision. You may lose friends. You may never get to go places you went before because there are smokers/dippers there. Lots of folks change stores that they used to go to buy their nicotine. Nothing in life can remain that jeopardizes your quit. This works when you have a "never again" resolve. Only then will attempts to quit be successful.
I don't really know why, but this time this really bothers me. Its not my first time to pour out myself and experience here into someone that caved and left. But you Joe, this bothers me. Maybe its because you responded to our loss of Todd/Trauma. Maybe so. Maybe I saw some of my self in you and want you to experience what I have experienced here. Freedom.
You said you were a firefighter. So am I. Professional firefighter for 23 years now. Fires are really not the main part of the job. EMS is. See lots of sick folks. Lots of dead folks. If your reading this I want you to know I was thinking about you last night. Had a call at 3 am. Folks had just got back that evening from vacation in Florida. The man woke his wife up with very loud snoring sounds she said. Probably was agonal respirations. She said he had high blood pressure and was a heavy smoker. Kinda over weight. His wife was in the room with us and maybe a daughter or granddaughter. He was in full arrest. We performed CPR for 35 minutes. It ended in us telling his wife we were sorry for her loss. Today that wife was living her first day without her husband. Today could have been a different day for that woman. If her husband had done years ago what he has known all along that he should do, he would still be here today.
We both give accountability here and agree to receive accountability for one reason. That we may live long healthy lives through the freedom we earn here. I appeal to your senses as a man, a husband, a father, a friend to others, and as a member of your community and church. Who will take your place when you are gone before your time do to this very overcome able addiction? Now is the time to change the outcome of your life.
You need to look very hard at yourself in the mirror is all I can say!!! You basically shit on us and we still welcomed back when you had a "change" in heart an said you really wanted to do whatever it takes to rid your life of that crap. Enjoy that "nice" fat juicy dip.
Hope you like that cancer dirt. Don't worry, we'll be here when you get scared enough to stop again. I refuse to use the word "quit" when talking to/about you. It's clear you're not interested in quitting. Enjoy being a slave!
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I cannot post in roll today as I have fallen of the wagon. My stress level has hit my explosion point and I caved on day 11. I will be working to get off this stuff, and will post roll for day 1 when that happens. I was ready to kill someone yesterday, not literally, but you know what I mean. I don't need text messages chewing me out right now because you might not like my response. Let me work through some issues and I will be posting roll again, I hope.
You almost sound relieved....life just got too troublesome to just say you won't dip today... What a weak ass excuse. Imagine what the guy went through that made you take a look at this place. Yeah I mean Todd. He was at the end and he knew it. He honored his word to the end. Guess you would have said screw it gimme a dip... Don't come in here again until you take us and your quit seriously. Good luck with whatever process you think you are going to use to get to that day one in the sky... And btw, remember when I said gdub was the salt of the earth? It's because he wouldn't pull some shit stunt like this believe you me bub... Enjoy stuffin your face...
PPM. Look at Docs signature line. What does it say? It says " never again". When you post a Day 1, that's the attitude, resolve, and conviction that you must have to succeed. As in never again despite any consequences of that decision. Its not easy. And there really are consequences to that decision. You may lose friends. You may never get to go places you went before because there are smokers/dippers there. Lots of folks change stores that they used to go to buy their nicotine. Nothing in life can remain that jeopardizes your quit. This works when you have a "never again" resolve. Only then will attempts to quit be successful.
I don't really know why, but this time this really bothers me. Its not my first time to pour out myself and experience here into someone that caved and left. But you Joe, this bothers me. Maybe its because you responded to our loss of Todd/Trauma. Maybe so. Maybe I saw some of my self in you and want you to experience what I have experienced here. Freedom.
You said you were a firefighter. So am I. Professional firefighter for 23 years now. Fires are really not the main part of the job. EMS is. See lots of sick folks. Lots of dead folks. If your reading this I want you to know I was thinking about you last night. Had a call at 3 am. Folks had just got back that evening from vacation in Florida. The man woke his wife up with very loud snoring sounds she said. Probably was agonal respirations. She said he had high blood pressure and was a heavy smoker. Kinda over weight. His wife was in the room with us and maybe a daughter or granddaughter. He was in full arrest. We performed CPR for 35 minutes. It ended in us telling his wife we were sorry for her loss. Today that wife was living her first day without her husband. Today could have been a different day for that woman. If her husband had done years ago what he has known all along that he should do, he would still be here today.
We both give accountability here and agree to receive accountability for one reason. That we may live long healthy lives through the freedom we earn here. I appeal to your senses as a man, a husband, a father, a friend to others, and as a member of your community and church. Who will take your place when you are gone before your time do to this very overcome able addiction? Now is the time to change the outcome of your life.
Gdubya,
Thank you for posting about your call, that hits true to home I was a volunteer for years and am currently aiming to go back to firefighting in the next few years as a career and my brother is a firefighter/medic. With that it hits true to home because why should we riddle ourselves with the potential to hurt ourselves and voluntarily cut our lives short for a can.
I for one am quit with you and thank you for all you do.
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PPM. Look at Docs signature line. What does it say? It says " never again". When you post a Day 1, that's the attitude, resolve, and conviction that you must have to succeed. As in never again despite any consequences of that decision. Its not easy. And there really are consequences to that decision. You may lose friends. You may never get to go places you went before because there are smokers/dippers there. Lots of folks change stores that they used to go to buy their nicotine. Nothing in life can remain that jeopardizes your quit. This works when you have a "never again" resolve. Only then will attempts to quit be successful.
I don't really know why, but this time this really bothers me. Its not my first time to pour out myself and experience here into someone that caved and left. But you Joe, this bothers me. Maybe its because you responded to our loss of Todd/Trauma. Maybe so. Maybe I saw some of my self in you and want you to experience what I have experienced here. Freedom.
You said you were a firefighter. So am I. Professional firefighter for 23 years now. Fires are really not the main part of the job. EMS is. See lots of sick folks. Lots of dead folks. If your reading this I want you to know I was thinking about you last night. Had a call at 3 am. Folks had just got back that evening from vacation in Florida. The man woke his wife up with very loud snoring sounds she said. Probably was agonal respirations. She said he had high blood pressure and was a heavy smoker. Kinda over weight. His wife was in the room with us and maybe a daughter or granddaughter. He was in full arrest. We performed CPR for 35 minutes. It ended in us telling his wife we were sorry for her loss. Today that wife was living her first day without her husband. Today could have been a different day for that woman. If her husband had done years ago what he has known all along that he should do, he would still be here today.
We both give accountability here and agree to receive accountability for one reason. That we may live long healthy lives through the freedom we earn here. I appeal to your senses as a man, a husband, a father, a friend to others, and as a member of your community and church. Who will take your place when you are gone before your time do to this very overcome able addiction? Now is the time to change the outcome of your life.
Want to pull this out... cause it's brilliant. Thank you sir.
Chewie
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I cannot post in roll today as I have fallen of the wagon. My stress level has hit my explosion point and I caved on day 11. I will be working to get off this stuff, and will post roll for day 1 when that happens. I was ready to kill someone yesterday, not literally, but you know what I mean. I don't need text messages chewing me out right now because you might not like my response. Let me work through some issues and I will be posting roll again, I hope.
I'm not going to pile on. You know the collective view on this failure.
I'll simply point this out.
You're not ready. You ended this with "I hope". Hope isn't a strategy for successful quitting.
When you're ready, truly ready, we'll be here. I'd suggest you give this a once over. It may sound like splitting hairs but your vocabulary and how you think and speak about your quit can make all the difference.
You hope you can quit.
I KNOW it.
http://blog.killthecan.org/2009/12/chan ... ocabulary/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2009/12/change-your-vocabulary/)
Chewie
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General quit discussion, questions, answers, etc.
Guests looking to quit looking for answers are welcome.
I'm in day 6 of my quit. I've used nicotine lozenges here and there for the past week. Curious what your thoughts are on using "aids" to stop dipping.
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General quit discussion, questions, answers, etc.
Guests looking to quit looking for answers are welcome.
I'm in day 6 of my quit. I've used nicotine lozenges here and there for the past week. Curious what your thoughts are on using "aids" to stop dipping.
Nic gum and lozenges are all just different delivery systems for the same drug. You aren't actually quit yet. Dip, cigs, cigars, vape, gum, lozenge - it's all a nicotine addiction.
To quit, you need to drop it all, cold turkey.
Weaning down or using NRT just doesn't work. Every use of nicotine resets the addiction in your brain. By trying to lessen use or wean down, you just prolong painful withdrawal.
Luckily, nicotine washes from your system in only three days. Withdrawal and fog can last a long time, but it won't kill you and it will get better.
The folks here will help pull you through, but you have to commit. Throw away all tobacco/ Nic products and then find the December quit group and post a Day 1. That will be your first daily promise not to use. Repeat that every morning, as soon as you reasonably can, and you will break free.
I'm happy to help or clarify anything you need.
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General quit discussion, questions, answers, etc.
Guests looking to quit looking for answers are welcome.
I'm in day 6 of my quit. I've used nicotine lozenges here and there for the past week. Curious what your thoughts are on using "aids" to stop dipping.
Nic gum and lozenges are all just different delivery systems for the same drug. You aren't actually quit yet. Dip, cigs, cigars, vape, gum, lozenge - it's all a nicotine addiction.
To quit, you need to drop it all, cold turkey.
Weaning down or using NRT just doesn't work. Every use of nicotine resets the addiction in your brain. By trying to lessen use or wean down, you just prolong painful withdrawal.
Luckily, nicotine washes from your system in only three days. Withdrawal and fog can last a long time, but it won't kill you and it will get better.
The folks here will help pull you through, but you have to commit. Throw away all tobacco/ Nic products and then find the December quit group and post a Day 1. That will be your first daily promise not to use. Repeat that every morning, as soon as you reasonably can, and you will break free.
I'm happy to help or clarify anything you need.
RReed, we quit nicotine here. Most (but not all) of us are addicted to chewing tobacco. As pky says, it's a delivery system. We welcome smokers too. We are addicted to nicotine. She is our enemy. She controls and consumes us. When you are ready to quit nicotine, you are ready to quit - and join us in this battle. It truly is a battle. We take it one day at a time, and we win.
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Hi everyone. I have decided to take to steps toward quitting again. Last year after having a medical procedure I was unable to use any format of tobbacco and was therefore able to quit. Once I made it fmthrougj those first few days I was finally able to be free of my addiction. Or so I thought. While I was not using though I changed my entire life, lost nearly 100 pounds, my anxiety deminished and I was all around a much happier person. Then I fell back off and dipped. Every since then I have completely fallen back into my old ways. Gained weight back, anxiety is terrible and I'm very unhappy. So I know I need to quit. I'm turning to this forum in hopes that having people in my position will be able to encourage me to succeed in my goals. Thanks guys I look forward to interacting with you all!
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Hi everyone. I have decided to take to steps toward quitting again. Last year after having a medical procedure I was unable to use any format of tobbacco and was therefore able to quit. Once I made it fmthrougj those first few days I was finally able to be free of my addiction. Or so I thought. While I was not using though I changed my entire life, lost nearly 100 pounds, my anxiety deminished and I was all around a much happier person. Then I fell back off and dipped. Every since then I have completely fallen back into my old ways. Gained weight back, anxiety is terrible and I'm very unhappy. So I know I need to quit. I'm turning to this forum in hopes that having people in my position will be able to encourage me to succeed in my goals. Thanks guys I look forward to interacting with you all!
This all sounds like the most successful quit failure I have ever read here. Up until the part where you said you dipped again then it all made sense to me then. Whatever lead you back to that point in your life, you are going to have to take a good look at all of the reasons you put all of that effort into improving your life, then letting your freedom slip back away from you. I assume that is why you are here. Go to the Welcome Center and get started. You won't regret getting in here and quitting. It will be a tough road that you have already been down before, but you can make it man!!!
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Hi everyone. I have decided to take to steps toward quitting again. Last year after having a medical procedure I was unable to use any format of tobbacco and was therefore able to quit. Once I made it fmthrougj those first few days I was finally able to be free of my addiction. Or so I thought. While I was not using though I changed my entire life, lost nearly 100 pounds, my anxiety deminished and I was all around a much happier person. Then I fell back off and dipped. Every since then I have completely fallen back into my old ways. Gained weight back, anxiety is terrible and I'm very unhappy. So I know I need to quit. I'm turning to this forum in hopes that having people in my position will be able to encourage me to succeed in my goals. Thanks guys I look forward to interacting with you all!
This all sounds like the most successful quit failure I have ever read here. Up until the part where you said you dipped again then it all made sense to me then. Whatever lead you back to that point in your life, you are going to have to take a good look at all of the reasons you put all of that effort into improving your life, then letting your freedom slip back away from you. I assume that is why you are here. Go to the Welcome Center and get started. You won't regret getting in here and quitting. It will be a tough road that you have already been down before, but you can make it man!!!
You've clearly got it in you to improve your life, but it sounds like you were missing the accountability to keep away from the "just this once" trap.
At KTC, you'll fill in that gap. Throw away all of your tobacco/ nicotine products and post a Day 1 with the December quit group. That Day 1 is a promise that you won't use for 24 hours. Wake up and post Day 2 tomorrow. Follow through on your word. Get to know the people in that group.
You will find tons of support here, but this is not a support site. This is a quit site. Work the system, engage with others and keep your word and you will successfully get your life back.
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Hi everyone. I have decided to take to steps toward quitting again. Last year after having a medical procedure I was unable to use any format of tobbacco and was therefore able to quit. Once I made it fmthrougj those first few days I was finally able to be free of my addiction. Or so I thought. While I was not using though I changed my entire life, lost nearly 100 pounds, my anxiety deminished and I was all around a much happier person. Then I fell back off and dipped. Every since then I have completely fallen back into my old ways. Gained weight back, anxiety is terrible and I'm very unhappy. So I know I need to quit. I'm turning to this forum in hopes that having people in my position will be able to encourage me to succeed in my goals. Thanks guys I look forward to interacting with you all!
This all sounds like the most successful quit failure I have ever read here. Up until the part where you said you dipped again then it all made sense to me then. Whatever lead you back to that point in your life, you are going to have to take a good look at all of the reasons you put all of that effort into improving your life, then letting your freedom slip back away from you. I assume that is why you are here. Go to the Welcome Center and get started. You won't regret getting in here and quitting. It will be a tough road that you have already been down before, but you can make it man!!!
You've clearly got it in you to improve your life, but it sounds like you were missing the accountability to keep away from the "just this once" trap.
At KTC, you'll fill in that gap. Throw away all of your tobacco/ nicotine products and post a Day 1 with the December quit group. That Day 1 is a promise that you won't use for 24 hours. Wake up and post Day 2 tomorrow. Follow through on your word. Get to know the people in that group.
You will find tons of support here, but this is not a support site. This is a quit site. Work the system, engage with others and keep your word and you will successfully get your life back.
like both said, if you want change then man up and make the damn change get rid of all products post up roll and start pissing people off on here. You either jump in with both feet or you will be floating at the other with your damn floaties on stuffing a lip full of cat shit.
QUIT
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Not really sure what to do here, Today is my last day with chew and all I know is I want to quit! I have tried to quit so many times before and I have only been chewing for 6 years. Now when I try to even think about quiting I start getting scared about failing again, About going to the gas station just for 1 more can which turns into another can and another can. My problem with quiting is my anger gets to me and my brain feels like its going crazy by its self only hours after quiting. But I wanted to stop by and introduce myself.
Thank you!
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Hi everyone. I have decided to take to steps toward quitting again. Last year after having a medical procedure I was unable to use any format of tobbacco and was therefore able to quit. Once I made it fmthrougj those first few days I was finally able to be free of my addiction. Or so I thought. While I was not using though I changed my entire life, lost nearly 100 pounds, my anxiety deminished and I was all around a much happier person. Then I fell back off and dipped. Every since then I have completely fallen back into my old ways. Gained weight back, anxiety is terrible and I'm very unhappy. So I know I need to quit. I'm turning to this forum in hopes that having people in my position will be able to encourage me to succeed in my goals. Thanks guys I look forward to interacting with you all!
This all sounds like the most successful quit failure I have ever read here. Up until the part where you said you dipped again then it all made sense to me then. Whatever lead you back to that point in your life, you are going to have to take a good look at all of the reasons you put all of that effort into improving your life, then letting your freedom slip back away from you. I assume that is why you are here. Go to the Welcome Center and get started. You won't regret getting in here and quitting. It will be a tough road that you have already been down before, but you can make it man!!!
You've clearly got it in you to improve your life, but it sounds like you were missing the accountability to keep away from the "just this once" trap.
At KTC, you'll fill in that gap. Throw away all of your tobacco/ nicotine products and post a Day 1 with the December quit group. That Day 1 is a promise that you won't use for 24 hours. Wake up and post Day 2 tomorrow. Follow through on your word. Get to know the people in that group.
You will find tons of support here, but this is not a support site. This is a quit site. Work the system, engage with others and keep your word and you will successfully get your life back.
like both said, if you want change then man up and make the damn change get rid of all products post up roll and start pissing people off on here. You either jump in with both feet or you will be floating at the other with your damn floaties on stuffing a lip full of cat shit.
QUIT
You got this! Keep your head up and dig in real deep and make the decision that will make your life better! You always have us here to talk to!
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Not really sure what to do here, Today is my last day with chew and all I know is I want to quit! I have tried to quit so many times before and I have only been chewing for 6 years. Now when I try to even think about quiting I start getting scared about failing again, About going to the gas station just for 1 more can which turns into another can and another can. My problem with quiting is my anger gets to me and my brain feels like its going crazy by its self only hours after quiting. But I wanted to stop by and introduce myself.
Thank you!
Welcome HUgeneral!
All of us have failed before, most of us numerous times. But quitting is possible, freedom is attainable. There is a proven formula for success at this site and if you follow it, you can beat your addiction.
Use this site to surround yourself with motivation, support and accountability. Motivation comes through reading about the success and struggles of others. Support comes from engaging with others, sharing your own struggles and finding out the people here are going through the same damn thing. Accountability comes from making a promise not to use any nicotine product for 24 hours. You make that promise first thing every day and then keep that promise.
The support and engagement is contingent on you making that daily promise in your designated quit group (yours will be December, as you will hit 100 days clean in December). That promise, "posting roll," is the price of entry for using this site and it is the backbone of the system here.
As I mentioned in a previous post, although you will find tons of support here, this is not a support site, this is a quit site. Once you take the step, you are quit and there is zero tolerance for using any nicotine product. The only way to do this is one day at a time, so you make that promise daily.
Eventually, you will discover the final piece of the puzzle - brotherhood. You will learn to care about the others struggling with you, as you lean on them and they lean on you. Be a man of your word, encourage others and use this site to its fullest and the system WORKS.
Reach out if I can help.
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I took out my last dip just before midnight on 9/4/2016 which will make labor day just before midnight a full 24 hrs. With no chew. I stayed up late last night reading tons of posts on this website and to my surprise i was not the only one who jas been struggling with the addiction of chewing tobacco. I have chewed my way through the army then the police department and now industrial service. Total amount of time was 1 to 2 cans a day for 15 years. I tried quitting several times but i believe my mind was in the wrong place. After stumbling upon this website last night i all of a sudden had the will power and mindset to just stop. I have never felt so enthusiastic about quitting. I didnt feel much struggle today which is way better than the other times i tried quitting. I just kept telling myself their was a time when i didnt chew and everything was alright. I can not chew now and everything will be alright. Moving on through the day i got in a decent workout and some cardio. Before when i would workout i would wheez and cough im guessing from the nicotine because i would leave a chew in for at least a couple of hours everytime i had one in. The only time i didnt have a chew in was when i was eating or sleeping. Im all over the place right now with these stories. So back to after workout, i put in some smokey mountain peach herbal chew afterwards and for some strange reason it was very comforting to have something in the mouth that resembled my enemy. I plan on manning up through the tough times and prey that this is the last quit for good.
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I took out my last dip just before midnight on 9/4/2016 which will make labor day just before midnight a full 24 hrs. With no chew. I stayed up late last night reading tons of posts on this website and to my surprise i was not the only one who jas been struggling with the addiction of chewing tobacco. I have chewed my way through the army then the police department and now industrial service. Total amount of time was 1 to 2 cans a day for 15 years. I tried quitting several times but i believe my mind was in the wrong place. After stumbling upon this website last night i all of a sudden had the will power and mindset to just stop. I have never felt so enthusiastic about quitting. I didnt feel much struggle today which is way better than the other times i tried quitting. I just kept telling myself their was a time when i didnt chew and everything was alright. I can not chew now and everything will be alright. Moving on through the day i got in a decent workout and some cardio. Before when i would workout i would wheez and cough im guessing from the nicotine because i would leave a chew in for at least a couple of hours everytime i had one in. The only time i didnt have a chew in was when i was eating or sleeping. Im all over the place right now with these stories. So back to after workout, i put in some smokey mountain peach herbal chew afterwards and for some strange reason it was very comforting to have something in the mouth that resembled my enemy. I plan on manning up through the tough times and prey that this is the last quit for good.
Good for you Man. I'm on day 4 and I quit the can with you !
Keep busy and do roll call daily, and we will kill the can !
Eddie
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m new here and not sure where I should post this. But here goes. I've been quit for about 3 months now. And I was wondering about how long it should take the leukoplakia to heal. Also I've been chewing the Smoky Mountain and was wondering if there's anything harmful with that and if that would possibly slow down the healing. Any experience with any either of these please let me know. Thank you. And how do I know if anyone replies and where do I check?
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m new here and not sure where I should post this. But here goes. I've been quit for about 3 months now. And I was wondering about how long it should take the leukoplakia to heal. Also I've been chewing the Smoky Mountain and was wondering if there's anything harmful with that and if that would possibly slow down the healing. Any experience with any either of these please let me know. Thank you. And how do I know if anyone replies and where do I check?
I've been using the Hooch herbal snuff mainly, but I have used Smokey Mountain. If I use too much Hooch, my gums get really irritated; sometimes worse than with the Copenhagen. Smokey Mountain contains molasses, so it will rot your teeth I would guess. Anything to keep the nicotine out of my mouth is how I feel about it right now. I'll worry about quitting the Hooch later.
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m new here and not sure where I should post this. But here goes. I've been quit for about 3 months now. And I was wondering about how long it should take the leukoplakia to heal. Also I've been chewing the Smoky Mountain and was wondering if there's anything harmful with that and if that would possibly slow down the healing. Any experience with any either of these please let me know. Thank you. And how do I know if anyone replies and where do I check?
Welcome to KTC!! Congrats on quitting and the start of the rest of your life!! You will post in September 2016!! Click the link below.
September 2016 (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11649440/509/#new)
Looking forward to having you here
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m new here and not sure where I should post this. But here goes. I've been quit for about 3 months now. And I was wondering about how long it should take the leukoplakia to heal. Also I've been chewing the Smoky Mountain and was wondering if there's anything harmful with that and if that would possibly slow down the healing. Any experience with any either of these please let me know. Thank you. And how do I know if anyone replies and where do I check?
I've been using the Hooch herbal snuff mainly, but I have used Smokey Mountain. If I use too much Hooch, my gums get really irritated; sometimes worse than with the Copenhagen. Smokey Mountain contains molasses, so it will rot your teeth I would guess. Anything to keep the nicotine out of my mouth is how I feel about it right now. I'll worry about quitting the Hooch later.
Any ideas about how long the leukoplakia takes to heal. My denist said about 6 months. I'd say mines about half healed. Just curious what others experience is.
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I am at day 123. Although I never joined a quit group I do like to poke around the site.
A topic I have always wondered about but haven't seen much about - does dipping cause gastrointestinal problems?
It seemed to give me frequent heartburn and acid indigestion. It also made me poop at least twice as often. I swear I could throw in an after dinner dip and be on the toilet before I finished the chew. It is hard for me to isolate the chew as the cause since I was doing it for 25 years. But I am pretty sure I got immediate relief of these issues from quitting. But everything is so cloudy and unfortunately my drinking and diet have become worse since quitting
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I am at day 123. Although I never joined a quit group I do like to poke around the site.
A topic I have always wondered about but haven't seen much about - does dipping cause gastrointestinal problems?
It seemed to give me frequent heartburn and acid indigestion. It also made me poop at least twice as often. I swear I could throw in an after dinner dip and be on the toilet before I finished the chew. It is hard for me to isolate the chew as the cause since I was doing it for 25 years. But I am pretty sure I got immediate relief of these issues from quitting. But everything is so cloudy and unfortunately my drinking and diet have become worse since quitting
Nicotine is a stimulant and can act as a stimulant on the digestive system (IE a laxative).
I can tell you from personal experience that my acid reflux / GERD actually got WAY worse for a few weeks (months?) after I quit, but then subsided. It got better to the point that I no longer take any of my acid reflux meds (I was on Prilosec and Nexium as well as a slew of OTC stuff).
These days I rarely if ever get any sort of acid reflux and that's only cause I've eaten (or drank) way too much and a Tums (or something similar) will generally take care of it).
That's not even delving into the issues of swallowing dip spit. Even if you didn't "gut it" you were still ingesting trace amounts of nicotine laced saliva. We recently lost one of our own - traumagnet - who was a "gutter". He felt till his dying days that his cancer was due to swallowing all those years. (RIP Todd http://blog.killthecan.org/2016/08/rest ... raumagnet/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2016/08/rest-in-peace-traumagnet/) )
Probably more than you were looking for... to answer your question more succinctly: "Does dipping cause gastrointestinal problems?"
I'd say unequivocally "yes".
Chewie
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So I've been on here for awhile but haven't really posted anything, mainly out of not knowing where to post and how to even log on. I've been free of nicotine and dip since 8:35AM on March 25, 2016. This is the longest I have ever been without it. I do still have cravings but they usually subside by the time I'm able to go out of the house or away from work. Let me know how and where to post roll and what not. I'm dedicated to not dip. It's not worth it
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So I've been on here for awhile but haven't really posted anything, mainly out of not knowing where to post and how to even log on. I've been free of nicotine and dip since 8:35AM on March 25, 2016. This is the longest I have ever been without it. I do still have cravings but they usually subside by the time I'm able to go out of the house or away from work. Let me know how and where to post roll and what not. I'm dedicated to not dip. It's not worth it
Welcome and congrats on 160+ days of bad assery!
Based on your quit date, you're a part of the June 2016 HOF class - topic/11568995/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11568995/)
Stop by and introduce yourself!
Chewie
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Is Smokey Mountain herbal chew safe? No cancer causing agents?
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m new here and not sure where I should post this. But here goes. I've been quit for about 3 months now. And I was wondering about how long it should take the leukoplakia to heal. Also I've been chewing the Smoky Mountain and was wondering if there's anything harmful with that and if that would possibly slow down the healing. Any experience with any either of these please let me know. Thank you. And how do I know if anyone replies and where do I check?
I've been using the Hooch herbal snuff mainly, but I have used Smokey Mountain. If I use too much Hooch, my gums get really irritated; sometimes worse than with the Copenhagen. Smokey Mountain contains molasses, so it will rot your teeth I would guess. Anything to keep the nicotine out of my mouth is how I feel about it right now. I'll worry about quitting the Hooch later.
Any ideas about how long the leukoplakia takes to heal. My denist said about 6 months. I'd say mines about half healed. Just curious what others experience is.
I don't have an answer for you on how long. Mine cleared up right away, but comes back a little if I chew a lot of Hooch. I would guess that the fake chew could be causing more irritation in your case. I'm no expert though.
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Is Smokey Mountain herbal chew safe? No cancer causing agents?
Safe.
No nicotine, no tobacco = no cancer.
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Just wanted to check in and introduce myself. Came across the site while on Jake's Mint Chew. I have been nicotine free for 9 days and I pretty much owe my success to Jake's. It has made the process much more tolerable as I feel like I was just used to having something in my lip.
I look forward to interacting here and learning how this site works.
Thanks for having me.
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Just wanted to check in and introduce myself. Came across the site while on Jake's Mint Chew. I have been nicotine free for 9 days and I pretty much owe my success to Jake's. It has made the process much more tolerable as I feel like I was just used to having something in my lip.
I look forward to interacting here and learning how this site works.
Thanks for having me.
Head into the Dec quit group and post roll with them you are on day 9 and this place is the place to be lots of help from new and old quitters and any questions you have will be answered fast.
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So I've been on here for awhile but haven't really posted anything, mainly out of not knowing where to post and how to even log on. I've been free of nicotine and dip since 8:35AM on March 25, 2016. This is the longest I have ever been without it. I do still have cravings but they usually subside by the time I'm able to go out of the house or away from work. Let me know how and where to post roll and what not. I'm dedicated to not dip. It's not worth it
Welcome and congrats on 160+ days of bad assery!
Based on your quit date, you're a part of the June 2016 HOF class - topic/11568995/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11568995/)
Stop by and introduce yourself!
Chewie
Fraze. Welcome to KTC. It would be great for you to start posting roll into our group. The July 2016 Phalanx. topic/11568995/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11568995/). Come by and say hello. We have a great group of guys in there. More like family!!
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Looking at some of the stupid bullshit we argue about in our young quit groups...I just realized is part of the genius of this site.....if we are focused on stupid shit we will not focus on how bad the craves suck early in the quit
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Looking at some of the stupid bullshit we argue about in our young quit groups...I just realized is part of the genius of this site.....if we are focused on stupid shit we will not focus on how bad the craves suck early in the quit
It is very true, never thought about it that way until now. if you spend more time on here especially in the beginning you keep a strong focus on your quit and less on craves.
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Looking at some of the stupid bullshit we argue about in our young quit groups...I just realized is part of the genius of this site.....if we are focused on stupid shit we will not focus on how bad the craves suck early in the quit
It is very true, never thought about it that way until now. if you spend more time on here especially in the beginning you keep a strong focus on your quit and less on craves.
'winker'
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Looking at some of the stupid bullshit we argue about in our young quit groups...I just realized is part of the genius of this site.....if we are focused on stupid shit we will not focus on how bad the craves suck early in the quit
It is very true, never thought about it that way until now. if you spend more time on here especially in the beginning you keep a strong focus on your quit and less on craves.
And you two fine gentlemen just hit on one of the keys to this place.....find something else to occupy your addict brains so you're not obsessing over the fact you're not dipping/chewing. Well done!
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This is why we go cold turkey:
Just another news article about drug companies tailoring studies to remove warning labels.
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2016/09/1 ... study.html (http://www.foxnews.com/health/2016/09/12/fda-staff-flags-concerns-about-pfizers-quit-smoking-drug-study.html)
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Don't look now, but the forums just passed 28,000 registered members!
http://blog.killthecan.org/2016/09/28000-forum-members/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2016/09/28000-forum-members/)
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Don't look now, but the forums just passed 28,000 registered members!
http://blog.killthecan.org/2016/09/28000-forum-members/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2016/09/28000-forum-members/)
New to how this board works. I just wanted to share Black Licorice helps with the cravings. If you can find licorice in its natural form it's even better, just check on the stick.
I've gone through almost a whole bag of Twizzler Black Licorice in two days (days 2 and 3). Really really helped ease some of the suffering. Just don't be alarmed when your stools are jet black from eating so much licorice.
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If you're posting "+1" as your day count just to be a dick... you're a dick.
What are you proving?
Why wouldn't you be PROUD of your days quit?
I don't get it.
Chewie ~ 3,714 and proud as FUCK of those digits. I've fought for every single one of em.
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If you're posting "+1" as your day count just to be a dick... you're a dick.
What are you proving?
Why wouldn't you be PROUD of your days quit?
I don't get it.
Chewie ~ 3,714 and proud as FUCK of those digits. I've fought for every single one of em.
This is an interesting post. We were just discussing the issues with posting a +1 in my group. Many members here post a +1. Why is it frowned upon? Why are some allowed and some belittled for posting it? I don't believe that anyone would post +1 just to be a dick. I believe that yesterday is the past and I'm focusing on today. my days quit are not a status symbol, but something for me to hold close. I shouldn't be judged on my days quit, Just that I am quit.
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If you're posting "+1" as your day count just to be a dick... you're a dick.
What are you proving?
Why wouldn't you be PROUD of your days quit?
I don't get it.
Chewie ~ 3,714 and proud as FUCK of those digits. I've fought for every single one of em.
This is an interesting post. We were just discussing the issues with posting a +1 in my group. Many members here post a +1. Why is it frowned upon? Why are some allowed and some belittled for posting it? I don't believe that anyone would post +1 just to be a dick. I believe that yesterday is the past and I'm focusing on today. my days quit are not a status symbol, but something for me to hold close. I shouldn't be judged on my days quit, Just that I am quit.
Should we judge you if you post every other day? How about if you cave? I mean, if all that matters is that "you're quit."
No. We have conventions that work. Post roll. Early. Every day. Honor that promise (don't cave). And one that I've always thought was inviolate was posting how many days you're quit. So, you know, we can see how far we've come, celebrate milestones, etc. My 627 matters to me.
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If you're posting "+1" as your day count just to be a dick... you're a dick.
What are you proving?
Why wouldn't you be PROUD of your days quit?
I don't get it.
Chewie ~ 3,714 and proud as FUCK of those digits. I've fought for every single one of em.
This is an interesting post. We were just discussing the issues with posting a +1 in my group. Many members here post a +1. Why is it frowned upon? Why are some allowed and some belittled for posting it? I don't believe that anyone would post +1 just to be a dick. I believe that yesterday is the past and I'm focusing on today. my days quit are not a status symbol, but something for me to hold close. I shouldn't be judged on my days quit, Just that I am quit.
Should we judge you if you post every other day? How about if you cave? I mean, if all that matters is that "you're quit."
No. We have conventions that work. Post roll. Early. Every day. Honor that promise (don't cave). And one that I've always thought was inviolate was posting how many days you're quit. So, you know, we can see how far we've come, celebrate milestones, etc. My 627 matters to me.
walker - I'll try to answer your questions as best I can. Please note I'm answering these as a single quitter... not speaking for anyone else.
- Many members here post a +1. Why is it frowned upon?
I personally think posting a +1 sucks. While we are all about "today" when you post +1 it suggests that anything before today is irrelevant. I couldn't disagree more. As I said before, all of those days, the good and the bad, brought me to where I am... today. They are the building blocks of today. Without them I'd just have today, which would most likely be day 1. - Why are some allowed and some belittled for posting it?
In general we don't like rules around here... never have. Sure, we don't have a "rule" against posting a +1 but it has been as far as I can remember a generally accepted practice. We don't have a "rule" against caving either. It's my personal opinion that everyone whether they're on day 1, 100, 1,000 or beyond should post their days quit. My two cents. - I don't believe that anyone would post +1 just to be a dick.
I'd completely disagree. There have been folks here in the past, many in fact, that do things including posting a +1 just to be a dick. Happens every day in fact. - I believe that yesterday is the past and I'm focusing on today.
As you should. But as I said before, in my opinion, posting a +1 belittles all of those days previous. - my days quit are not a status symbol, but something for me to hold close.
If they're something you hold dear, why wouldn't you post them? Why not be proud of your successes? I'd agree, your days quit AREN'T a status symbol, but they are successes. Each and every one. - I shouldn't be judged on my days quit, Just that I am quit.
Well, maybe. If you cave tonight and quit tomorrow, you're quit tomorrow. Should I pat you on the back and give you an "atta boy" because you're quit on that day? Or should I light you up and run your ass over the coals because you failed? Theoretically, you could post +1 every... single... day... and cave... every... single... night... and not be "lying" on roll. After all, you could still say that you're "quit" for that day.
No thanks.
I'll keep posting my days quit.
Chewie
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If you're posting "+1" as your day count just to be a dick... you're a dick.
What are you proving?
Why wouldn't you be PROUD of your days quit?
I don't get it.
Chewie ~ 3,714 and proud as FUCK of those digits. I've fought for every single one of em.
This is an interesting post. We were just discussing the issues with posting a +1 in my group. Many members here post a +1. Why is it frowned upon? Why are some allowed and some belittled for posting it? I don't believe that anyone would post +1 just to be a dick. I believe that yesterday is the past and I'm focusing on today. my days quit are not a status symbol, but something for me to hold close. I shouldn't be judged on my days quit, Just that I am quit.
Should we judge you if you post every other day? How about if you cave? I mean, if all that matters is that "you're quit."
No. We have conventions that work. Post roll. Early. Every day. Honor that promise (don't cave). And one that I've always thought was inviolate was posting how many days you're quit. So, you know, we can see how far we've come, celebrate milestones, etc. My 627 matters to me.
walker - I'll try to answer your questions as best I can. Please note I'm answering these as a single quitter... not speaking for anyone else.
- Many members here post a +1. Why is it frowned upon?
I personally think posting a +1 sucks. While we are all about "today" when you post +1 it suggests that anything before today is irrelevant. I couldn't disagree more. As I said before, all of those days, the good and the bad, brought me to where I am... today. They are the building blocks of today. Without them I'd just have today, which would most likely be day 1. - Why are some allowed and some belittled for posting it?
In general we don't like rules around here... never have. Sure, we don't have a "rule" against posting a +1 but it has been as far as I can remember a generally accepted practice. We don't have a "rule" against caving either. It's my personal opinion that everyone whether they're on day 1, 100, 1,000 or beyond should post their days quit. My two cents. - I don't believe that anyone would post +1 just to be a dick.
I'd completely disagree. There have been folks here in the past, many in fact, that do things including posting a +1 just to be a dick. Happens every day in fact. - I believe that yesterday is the past and I'm focusing on today.
As you should. But as I said before, in my opinion, posting a +1 belittles all of those days previous. - my days quit are not a status symbol, but something for me to hold close.
If they're something you hold dear, why wouldn't you post them? Why not be proud of your successes? I'd agree, your days quit AREN'T a status symbol, but they are successes. Each and every one. - I shouldn't be judged on my days quit, Just that I am quit.
Well, maybe. If you cave tonight and quit tomorrow, you're quit tomorrow. Should I pat you on the back and give you an "atta boy" because you're quit on that day? Or should I light you up and run your ass over the coals because you failed? Theoretically, you could post +1 every... single... day... and cave... every... single... night... and not be "lying" on roll. After all, you could still say that you're "quit" for that day.
No thanks.
I'll keep posting my days quit.
Chewie
Awesome post except for the last bit. The website is about trust. If you can't trust my roll post, it doesn't matter what it says.
One could very well lie with numbers or with a +1.
Thanks for your insight. I believe that it's good for others to read as well.
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Poof
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If you're posting "+1" as your day count just to be a dick... you're a dick.
What are you proving?
Why wouldn't you be PROUD of your days quit?
I don't get it.
Chewie ~ 3,714 and proud as FUCK of those digits. I've fought for every single one of em.
This is an interesting post. We were just discussing the issues with posting a +1 in my group. Many members here post a +1. Why is it frowned upon? Why are some allowed and some belittled for posting it? I don't believe that anyone would post +1 just to be a dick. I believe that yesterday is the past and I'm focusing on today. my days quit are not a status symbol, but something for me to hold close. I shouldn't be judged on my days quit, Just that I am quit.
Should we judge you if you post every other day? How about if you cave? I mean, if all that matters is that "you're quit."
No. We have conventions that work. Post roll. Early. Every day. Honor that promise (don't cave). And one that I've always thought was inviolate was posting how many days you're quit. So, you know, we can see how far we've come, celebrate milestones, etc. My 627 matters to me.
walker - I'll try to answer your questions as best I can. Please note I'm answering these as a single quitter... not speaking for anyone else.
- Many members here post a +1. Why is it frowned upon?
I personally think posting a +1 sucks. While we are all about "today" when you post +1 it suggests that anything before today is irrelevant. I couldn't disagree more. As I said before, all of those days, the good and the bad, brought me to where I am... today. They are the building blocks of today. Without them I'd just have today, which would most likely be day 1. - Why are some allowed and some belittled for posting it?
In general we don't like rules around here... never have. Sure, we don't have a "rule" against posting a +1 but it has been as far as I can remember a generally accepted practice. We don't have a "rule" against caving either. It's my personal opinion that everyone whether they're on day 1, 100, 1,000 or beyond should post their days quit. My two cents. - I don't believe that anyone would post +1 just to be a dick.
I'd completely disagree. There have been folks here in the past, many in fact, that do things including posting a +1 just to be a dick. Happens every day in fact. - I believe that yesterday is the past and I'm focusing on today.
As you should. But as I said before, in my opinion, posting a +1 belittles all of those days previous. - my days quit are not a status symbol, but something for me to hold close.
If they're something you hold dear, why wouldn't you post them? Why not be proud of your successes? I'd agree, your days quit AREN'T a status symbol, but they are successes. Each and every one. - I shouldn't be judged on my days quit, Just that I am quit.
Well, maybe. If you cave tonight and quit tomorrow, you're quit tomorrow. Should I pat you on the back and give you an "atta boy" because you're quit on that day? Or should I light you up and run your ass over the coals because you failed? Theoretically, you could post +1 every... single... day... and cave... every... single... night... and not be "lying" on roll. After all, you could still say that you're "quit" for that day.
No thanks.
I'll keep posting my days quit.
Chewie
Awesome post except for the last bit. The website is about trust. If you can't trust my roll post, it doesn't matter what it says.
One could very well lie with numbers or with a +1.
Thanks for your insight. I believe that it's good for others to read as well.
*Posted the following as a response to the referenced conversation in the August group*
Walker, no one wants you to fail. I'm happy for anyone who can get quit and stay quit, regardless of how they do it - after all that is the overarching goal of this community. I also appreciate you compromising and posting support below the line.
That being said, there are valid reasons for the "imaginary lines" and seemingly arbitrary rules that get people all worked up.
1. There are many methods of quitting that can be successful, but KTC is the one that the people here chose and has proven successful. We're all here voluntarily, no one forced me to sign up for this and no one will show up at my house if I don't sign in tomorrow (although Fish has threatened to torch everything I love with a flamethrower if I cave). We have all individually decided that we get enough value out of this place to keep showing up. Even if there are things that we don't like or rules that we disagree with, they are outweighed by the benefit of showing up. Ultimately, playing by those rules keep access to the greater resource open.
2. Structure is important to the quit. Addicts require a rigid structure. When we were actively using, we would sneak, lie and take advantage of any angle possible to support our addiction. An addict brain will take advantage of any wiggle room or inconstancy in a system to justify a cave. Maybe a rule (like +1) seems arbitrary, but the point is that it is still a rule. If that rule were ignored or inconsistently enforced, there would be those of us who would see that and say "well if that rule is BS, then maybe the rest are." That kind of thinking is a slippery slope and leads directly back to the can.
3. These rules are not actually arbitrary. Even if they seem difficult to defend, nothing came about here by accident. The culture here has evolved and developed over many years and is based entirely on the practical success and failures of real-life people. Seemingly big or small, all of the rules here have a practical precedent. Some rules, like posting roll daily, are foundational to the program. If you can't make the daily promise, you aren't part of the community here.
4. The value of the community is far more important than any individual member. I'm neither a commie or a Vulcan, but in this situation the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. This site has a large and diverse member base. No single structure will be best for every single person, but the existing structure has proven effective for the vast majority. Sometimes people don't find a fit here, but that doesn't mean that there is a need to turn the ship around. THIS works for US and if you don't like it, then let's talk about something else, because we sure as hell aren't talking about changing things for you.
5. Breaking the rules sets a bad example to people who might really need them to stay quit. There are those who are able to quit without this site, but many of us aren't. By starting arguments, flouting the rules and acting as a general distraction, one might distract a new (or even a vet) quitter who really needs this place. That's just not ok. People come here for help. We ask them to buy into the system and follow the rules. If they do, they will be quit. Deviation from that opens the door to failure. Of course there are other ways to quit, and probably better ways for some, but the message to those who show up here needs to be consistent and needs to be unyielding.
I'm not asking you to leave and I'm certainly not rooting against you. I'm not offended by your semi-regular status update and I'd be happy to offer whatever support/ advice that I can, if you need it. I will insist though, that you be mindful when you wear your boots in someone else's living room.
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WTF is wrong with this site if it takes me this long to get an emergency broadcast out there!? Armystrong is a patriot and is about to cave if is isn't already to late. Help this guy or you all are lost!
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WTF is wrong with this site if it takes me this long to get an emergency broadcast out there!? Armystrong is a patriot and is about to cave if is isn't already to late. Help this guy or you all are lost!
Nothing wrong with the site.
There is an Emergency thread for just such times: topic/1003243/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1003243/)
Did you post in your home group? Light up his phone?
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Hey guys. I found this site 12 days ago and read through some of the discussions y'all have had. I'm 21 and I've been dipping since I turned 18. (i know that's not as long as most of the people on this site but it was still hard to quit) I've tried taking smaller dips, cold turkey, even vaping to try to kick this habit but it would always end up failing. Anyways, after I read through yalls discussions, I actually had a desire to quit. I quit 12 days ago. I forget who said it but it went something like "The only way to quit is cold turkey" and they were completely right. I know I still have a LONG road ahead of me but I just wanted to let y'all know that this site helped me. Thanks guys
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Hey guys. I found this site 12 days ago and read through some of the discussions y'all have had. I'm 21 and I've been dipping since I turned 18. (i know that's not as long as most of the people on this site but it was still hard to quit) I've tried taking smaller dips, cold turkey, even vaping to try to kick this habit but it would always end up failing. Anyways, after I read through yalls discussions, I actually had a desire to quit. I quit 12 days ago. I forget who said it but it went something like "The only way to quit is cold turkey" and they were completely right. I know I still have a LONG road ahead of me but I just wanted to let y'all know that this site helped me. Thanks guys
Congratulations on 12 days on your own. Bad ass! If you think the intros are something, you join up in the forums. You will be blown away at the accountability and brotherhood that will be right at your fingertips. It will make it all the more difficult for you to fail when you have others helping hold you to your daily promise to quit.
Your group is December 16 (that's the month that you will hit 100 days together). Here is a link to their forum: topic/11758795/270/#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11758795/270/#new)
Join up with them and make sure this is the one and only time you will quit.
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I would not be a non dipper today (for 942 days) if it weren't for KTC.
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I would not be a non dipper today (for 942 days) if it weren't for KTC.
What a tremendous way to start my day. LOVE IT! Well done my man.
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Quick question...I have been tapering down to my quit date of Oct 15th for a little over a week now. After spending some time on this site tonight, I threw out 2 brand new cans and decided that I'm done...as of NOW. I have been quit for 40 minutes and I will not go back to that shit! Anyway, how do I change my quit date on my profile from Oct 15th to today?
Thanks for the effort you put into this site. You, especially have motivated me to bite the bullet!
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Quick question...I have been tapering down to my quit date of Oct 15th for a little over a week now. After spending some time on this site tonight, I threw out 2 brand new cans and decided that I'm done...as of NOW. I have been quit for 40 minutes and I will not go back to that shit! Anyway, how do I change my quit date on my profile from Oct 15th to today?
Thanks for the effort you put into this site. You, especially have motivated me to bite the bullet!
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Looks like you fixed your quit date. What a smart move my friend. I too thought I could taper down, and plan my quit. I did the same thing as you!
Threw it out, and 106 days later here I am. A brand new man, and getting better each and every day!!
Keep absorbing as much as you can on the site. I saw you posted roll, that is the price of admission. Come back tomorrow and repeat.
You stick with it, I promise you will not regret making this your final quit.
Quit with you today
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Just wondering I quit dipping a few weeks ago and my face feels numb/tingling feeling. When I first quit it got real bad to the point were I went to the ER and they said everything was fine but it's been acouple weeks now and it on and off. When it happens my head feels stuffy and my arms and face start to tingle anyone else have the same problem. Almost want to start again if it doesn't improve thanks
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Just wondering I quit dipping a few weeks ago and my face feels numb/tingling feeling. When I first quit it got real bad to the point were I went to the ER and they said everything was fine but it's been acouple weeks now and it on and off. When it happens my head feels stuffy and my arms and face start to tingle anyone else have the same problem. Almost want to start again if it doesn't improve thanks
Hey,
I am not a specialist by any means and no pro on advice, but there are a lot of physical symptoms you will go through. Numbness, sore throats is your bodies way of healing itself after you quit. You may also be experiencing anxiety. When the body gets anxious your fight or flight response kicks in, that can cause muscle to tighten. (Preparing your body to fight) This can make your throat hurt also and mimic these sensations you are feeling. Anxiety can also mimic a pain or numbness in the teeth and lower jaw bone. Acid reflux from your esophagus healing itself and sphincters healing can happen. Acid reflux or GERD can cause sore throat, numbness, sensation of not being able to swallow and chest pain/burning. Now this being said, if these persist, you should definitely see a general provider or primary doctor. Get on acid reflux medications, anti depression/anxiety and make sure you due have a clean bill of health.
Lots of physical symptoms you will experience in quitting.
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Thanks and I did go the doctor also and they looked over all my blood work and tests that they did and everything came back good. And they couldn't figure out anything that could be causing it either besides maybe a virus or allergies. When it first happened it was the worst lasted about a week on and off then I was good for 2 weeks and now it's back again just not as bad. I hope it's just the symptoms of withdrawal.
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Thanks and I did go the doctor also and they looked over all my blood work and tests that they did and everything came back good. And they couldn't figure out anything that could be causing it either besides maybe a virus or allergies. When it first happened it was the worst lasted about a week on and off then I was good for 2 weeks and now it's back again just not as bad. I hope it's just the symptoms of withdrawal.
I have had the same, everything gets better. Your body is healing and you are growing new cells to replace the ones you have killed with chew.
Not a big fan of this statement; "Almost want to start again if it doesn't improve thanks."
This is your second chance, get active, post roll each day and don't ever have to go back to the ER for cancer scares...
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Hey guys, been cold turkey for six weeks, I was about three cans a week for six years. One day my lip and gum started hurting and burning so i decided i was done, I'd just had a kid and made the choice.
The pain didn't go away so I went to the dentist and he went over my entire mouth with a fine tooth comb said everything looks pretty good, no fissures, no lumps, no spots. Said I need to heal, probably dried out and damaged my gums.
Now, a couple months later the pain comes and goes, along with a jawbone ache on that same side. No spots still, nothing out of the ordinary, just coming and going pain. Does this sound normal? Has anyone had this also? It's getting old, and worrying me to death. Thank you
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Lowell, jaw pain is an extremely common withdrawal symptom. It can take some time to ease up but it WILL go away.
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Even the burning in between my cheek and gum you think?
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Even the burning in between my cheek and gum you think?
Yep. As long as you stop putting something there.
If you're a fake dip user, this may persist as you're still putting "something" there to cause irritation, though it's a MUCH better "something".
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Ok. Thank you. It just kinda worries a person when it won't arm to go away
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Hello Lowell. Neck, Jaw pain persisted for me well past 100 days. Even now i still get a throb every now and again.
These are all signs of our bodies 'paying us back' for year of daily poison we packed into our lips. Payback is a bitch....
Eventually you will probably lose the need for fake if you do use. I certainly did, but everyone is different
HAve you been to dentist to get checkup?
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And Lowell, please join the quit group JANUARY 2017. Post roll every day, get to know the quitters in there, exchange phone numbers. Get active, be a leader
The cornerstone of KTC is brotherhood and accountability. Post your daily promise (accountability) to quit and the support (brotherhood) will be overwhelming.
Read the awesome win from October 2016 from earlier today. That's why we are all here. That's why KTC is successful!
PM me if you would like (upper right hand corner INBOX) , I will help you get started on solidifying your quit!
JB
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Yeah, said everything looked good. The pain in my gum and cheek is the one bothering me. One day is good, next day it burns. And I wonder am i whipping this or not lol. And thank you for your story, makes me feel better
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Yeah, said everything looked good. The pain in my gum and cheek is the one bothering me. One day is good, next day it burns. And I wonder am i whipping this or not lol. And thank you for your story, makes me feel better
are u using seeds? maybe that's it. As said above, stop putting anything in there. Pretty soon the hand to mouth obsession will cease. Thats exactly how my neck pain was. I thought for sure I had something... turns out its nothing.
Let me tell you brother, every day you don't put poison into you body you are whipping it.
I'm no Dr., but if your dentist gave you the all clear, it sounds like the crafty nicotine wench trying to lure you back. In other words, mind games. Keep the faith.
You gonna post roll and join this awesome bunch of quitters?
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Yah, I'm not going anywhere. This is a great website full of help
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Yah, I'm not going anywhere. This is a great website full of help
Cmon Lowell brother, you ready to post yet? There is so much more to this site than the General Discussion board. Join us!
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Hello all. I quit 61 days ago. I went to get my wisdom teeth taken out today and the oral surgeon said I had a fibroma on my madibular gums. The oral surgeon didn't biopsy it. He just said keep an eye on it and if it gets bigger or changes shape let him know. Does anyone know what a fibroma is? Should I be concerned.
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Hello all. I quit 61 days ago. I went to get my wisdom teeth taken out today and the oral surgeon said I had a fibroma on my madibular gums. The oral surgeon didn't biopsy it. He just said keep an eye on it and if it gets bigger or changes shape let him know. Does anyone know what a fibroma is? Should I be concerned.
According to Wikipedia, it's a benign growth in fibrous tissue, and harmless.
If the surgeon didn't feel a need to biopsy, then I'd say you should just follow his advice and make sure it doesn't start growing.
You could always get a second opinion, or get it removed for cosmetic/ comfort reasons, but I wouldn't start freaking out about it as a serious health issue.
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Hello all. I quit 61 days ago. I went to get my wisdom teeth taken out today and the oral surgeon said I had a fibroma on my madibular gums. The oral surgeon didn't biopsy it. He just said keep an eye on it and if it gets bigger or changes shape let him know. Does anyone know what a fibroma is? Should I be concerned.
According to Wikipedia, it's a benign growth in fibrous tissue, and harmless.
If the surgeon didn't feel a need to biopsy, then I'd say you should just follow his advice and make sure it doesn't start growing.
You could always get a second opinion, or get it removed for cosmetic/ comfort reasons, but I wouldn't start freaking out about it as a serious health issue.
Thanks,
Just a little freaked out about it. I have started to get that way since I quit. Expecially about my mouth.
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Hello all. I quit 61 days ago. I went to get my wisdom teeth taken out today and the oral surgeon said I had a fibroma on my madibular gums. The oral surgeon didn't biopsy it. He just said keep an eye on it and if it gets bigger or changes shape let him know. Does anyone know what a fibroma is? Should I be concerned.
According to Wikipedia, it's a benign growth in fibrous tissue, and harmless.
If the surgeon didn't feel a need to biopsy, then I'd say you should just follow his advice and make sure it doesn't start growing.
You could always get a second opinion, or get it removed for cosmetic/ comfort reasons, but I wouldn't start freaking out about it as a serious health issue.
Thanks,
Just a little freaked out about it. I have started to get that way since I quit. Expecially about my mouth.
GaryP,
I was the same (and still am a little) always worrying about my mouth health.
But here is the good news;
1) you are quit and posting roll and therefore not doing anymore harm.
2) your body is healing and it will continue to do so
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Hi guys,
I'm new to the forum. I haven't chewed for a few days now. Ive tried so many times before. I got some nicoret gum to help this time. Just wondering how well anyone else has done with it? Thanks for the help.
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Hi guys,
I'm new to the forum. I haven't chewed for a few days now. Ive tried so many times before. I got some nicoret gum to help this time. Just wondering how well anyone else has done with it? Thanks for the help.
cold turkey.....that is the way it is done here.....you are still using the ingredient that makes you want to keep that cancer dirt in your lip.....fuck nicotine man....join January quit group and get at it ....
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Hi guys,
I'm new to the forum. I haven't chewed for a few days now. Ive tried so many times before. I got some nicoret gum to help this time. Just wondering how well anyone else has done with it? Thanks for the help.
cold turkey.....that is the way it is done here.....you are still using the ingredient that makes you want to keep that cancer dirt in your lip.....fuck nicotine man....join January quit group and get at it ....
Agreed ^^^^. If you want to quit dip, then quit nicotine. It's not always easy, but it's simple. Keep nicotine out of your mouth and out of your bloodstream. Think very hard about what you're getting from nicotine infused gum. It's just stringing you along. Quit now and quit like your life depends on it.
King - 456 days of quitting. It works.
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Hi guys,
I'm new to the forum. I haven't chewed for a few days now. Ive tried so many times before. I got some nicoret gum to help this time. Just wondering how well anyone else has done with it? Thanks for the help.
cold turkey.....that is the way it is done here.....you are still using the ingredient that makes you want to keep that cancer dirt in your lip.....fuck nicotine man....join January quit group and get at it ....
Agreed ^^^^. If you want to quit dip, then quit nicotine. It's not always easy, but it's simple. Keep nicotine out of your mouth and out of your bloodstream. Think very hard about what you're getting from nicotine infused gum. It's just stringing you along. Quit now and quit like your life depends on it.
King - 456 days of quitting. It works.
Trying to quit and still using nicotine isn't really trying. Chewing tobacco is not your problem. Nicotine is the real enemy!
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Hi Guys-
I stopped cold turkey the morning of Friday 9/23/16. I have chewed (Skoal Straight) off and on for 15 years. More so on and at about a tin a day, depending on the day... I woke early the morning of the 23rd to a very realistic dream about having cancer and saying goodbye to my two young boys and wife. It really hit home this time! This time I QUIT for me and not to please anyone else. I am done and quit with all of you.
Some things I have been through since my quit - I have never been a nervous/anxious person, but I am very shook up this time. I have been battling with major anxiety and ended up in the hospital with what I thought was a heart attack. Turns out it was just a panic attack. I think most of the anxiety is coming from the dream and thought that I have cancer. Easy right? just get those thoughts out of your head. In my normal state, it would be, but with the way my body is reacting to no nicotine this time, it has me in a tailspin. I had a full workup at the hospital and went to my general doctor the following day and got a full physical and blood work. Everything came back perfect both times. I have since been to an oral surgeon and dentist, both of which said I am fine. My mind will not let this dream go and it is killing me! I have an appointment with my ENT tomorrow to have my throat scoped and check my neck.
What do I need to do to get past this? I feel terrible not being the energetic dad I normally am and have been slacking at work. I own two home service business and have not been the leader I need to be to keep everything running smooth. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
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Hi Guys-
I stopped cold turkey the morning of Friday 9/23/16. I have chewed (Skoal Straight) off and on for 15 years. More so on and at about a tin a day, depending on the day... I woke early the morning of the 23rd to a very realistic dream about having cancer and saying goodbye to my two young boys and wife. It really hit home this time! This time I QUIT for me and not to please anyone else. I am done and quit with all of you.
Some things I have been through since my quit - I have never been a nervous/anxious person, but I am very shook up this time. I have been battling with major anxiety and ended up in the hospital with what I thought was a heart attack. Turns out it was just a panic attack. I think most of the anxiety is coming from the dream and thought that I have cancer. Easy right? just get those thoughts out of your head. In my normal state, it would be, but with the way my body is reacting to no nicotine this time, it has me in a tailspin. I had a full workup at the hospital and went to my general doctor the following day and got a full physical and blood work. Everything came back perfect both times. I have since been to an oral surgeon and dentist, both of which said I am fine. My mind will not let this dream go and it is killing me! I have an appointment with my ENT tomorrow to have my throat scoped and check my neck.
What do I need to do to get past this? I feel terrible not being the energetic dad I normally am and have been slacking at work. I own two home service business and have not been the leader I need to be to keep everything running smooth. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
Sait Welcome and Congratulations on your decision
A couple things:
The anxiety is very common as is the fear of the damage we can inflicted to ourselves.
KTC has termendous resources use them:
Check out the welcome center: forum/55560/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/55560/)
Post roll daily: topic/11758795/329/#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11758795/329/#new)
Check out the section designated for anxiety: topic/1009791/127/#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1009791/127/#new)
http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/sym ... -dip-chew/ (http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/symptoms-of-quitting-dip-chew/)
Post roll, join us and believe me, everyday gets better
Idaho Spuds - 785days
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Hi Guys-
I stopped cold turkey the morning of Friday 9/23/16. I have chewed (Skoal Straight) off and on for 15 years. More so on and at about a tin a day, depending on the day... I woke early the morning of the 23rd to a very realistic dream about having cancer and saying goodbye to my two young boys and wife. It really hit home this time! This time I QUIT for me and not to please anyone else. I am done and quit with all of you.
Some things I have been through since my quit - I have never been a nervous/anxious person, but I am very shook up this time. I have been battling with major anxiety and ended up in the hospital with what I thought was a heart attack. Turns out it was just a panic attack. I think most of the anxiety is coming from the dream and thought that I have cancer. Easy right? just get those thoughts out of your head. In my normal state, it would be, but with the way my body is reacting to no nicotine this time, it has me in a tailspin. I had a full workup at the hospital and went to my general doctor the following day and got a full physical and blood work. Everything came back perfect both times. I have since been to an oral surgeon and dentist, both of which said I am fine. My mind will not let this dream go and it is killing me! I have an appointment with my ENT tomorrow to have my throat scoped and check my neck.
What do I need to do to get past this? I feel terrible not being the energetic dad I normally am and have been slacking at work. I own two home service business and have not been the leader I need to be to keep everything running smooth. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
Like Spuds said, the anxiety you are dealing with is VERY common for quitters. In time it will begin to subside. 81 days in and I still get some anxious moments, but no where near as many as in the early weeks. The reality is you just have to tough it out a little bit longer because the only way to stop all of this is to stay quit and push on through to the other side.
I was also foggy, unproductive at work. It was rough. But that part of my quit is behind me now and that is what you need to keep focusing on. You will get there soon enough.
Next questionis why haven't you posted roll in Dec 16 yet? Great group of quitters there. Best way to get through anxiety is to stay quit. Best way to stay quit is to post roll.
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Glad to be part of the family. I had quit 9-16-2016 @ 0730. Had no intentions to quit, acid reflux was bothering me so I spit that juicy deliciousness in a trash can. Three hours go by... I didn't notice. After realizing I set a personal best I handed my Grizzly Wintergreen Long Cut to my buddy. Since that day, it's been an easy road. Eight years, I used a little less than a can and a half a day. I'm going to win, because I want to win. Easy day. However, my question for most of y'all War dogs is concern of my tongue. For a fixation, I usually swirl a toothpick in my mouth... all day. My tongue has little white looking blisters, mostly on the sides. Is this normal? Is it the toothpicks, acid levels normalizing, or...
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Glad to be part of the family. I had quit 9-16-2016 @ 0730. Had no intentions to quit, acid reflux was bothering me so I spit that juicy deliciousness in a trash can. Three hours go by... I didn't notice. After realizing I set a personal best I handed my Grizzly Wintergreen Long Cut to my buddy. Since that day, it's been an easy road. Eight years, I used a little less than a can and a half a day. I'm going to win, because I want to win. Easy day. However, my question for most of y'all War dogs is concern of my tongue. For a fixation, I usually swirl a toothpick in my mouth... all day. My tongue has little white looking blisters, mostly on the sides. Is this normal? Is it the toothpicks, acid levels normalizing, or...
dhoskins, nice job on the quit so far. Close to a month on your own is badass!
As far as the tongue goes, have you been to the dentist? Thats the best thing for you. I would give it 30 or so days of quit before you go.
I never had tongue issues, more jaw and neck pain that eventually subsided after 100+ days even!
Now, I'd love to welcome you to the family bro, if you join your DECEMBER 2016 quit group and post roll everyday, as darth vader said ' you will then feel the true power of the darkside'.
I appreciate the lurkers, and its all good, I did it too. I was a kill the can lurker...I also quit dozens of times, and restarted eventually. Whats different this time?
I dove into this site, and The daily quit promise to my November 2015 brothers that i wont use. Will you join us?
Pop into DECEMBER 2016, post roll call, its easy. Get to know some of those guys and gals, they are all just like you and going through the same quit junk you are going through. SPread some of your quit wisdom on them, and learn some too!
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I am 2 weeks into this quitting thing. I have found my issue was not the nicotine, it was the feel of a dip in my jaw. I have found the Herbal Snuffs to be helpful! cowboy
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I am 2 weeks into this quitting thing. I have found my issue was not the nicotine, it was the feel of a dip in my jaw. I have found the Herbal Snuffs to be helpful! cowboy
Hello H, nice job on the quit! 2 weeks on your own is awesome.
Mostly the body's physical addiction to nicotine is over in 3 days. Its the mind games tat take over. What you are doing with the herbal is a mind game too.
Hey, whatever keeps you quit im all for. Use them as long as you want. Eventually I'll bet you give them up too. Its the 'hand to mouth' addiction thing.
I'd really love to see you join the quit groups here and post roll call. Get to know your fellow quit group members, sharing experiences, being there when a helping hand is needed is what this great place is all about.
I'd be careful saying your problem wasn't nicotine. It was and it IS.
Once you let your guard down like that --- BANG --- the sneaky nicotine wench slips in and before you know it you are back where you started.
Trust me, happened to me and probably just abaout everyone here at some point.
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I am 2 weeks into this quitting thing. I have found my issue was not the nicotine, it was the feel of a dip in my jaw. I have found the Herbal Snuffs to be helpful! cowboy
Hello H, nice job on the quit! 2 weeks on your own is awesome.
Mostly the body's physical addiction to nicotine is over in 3 days. Its the mind games tat take over. What you are doing with the herbal is a mind game too.
Hey, whatever keeps you quit im all for. Use them as long as you want. Eventually I'll bet you give them up too. Its the 'hand to mouth' addiction thing.
I'd really love to see you join the quit groups here and post roll call. Get to know your fellow quit group members, sharing experiences, being there when a helping hand is needed is what this great place is all about.
I'd be careful saying your problem wasn't nicotine. It was and it IS.
Once you let your guard down like that --- BANG --- the sneaky nicotine wench slips in and before you know it you are back where you started.
Trust me, happened to me and probably just abaout everyone here at some point.
Listen to this ^^^ guy. Nicotine ABSOLUTELY and UNEQUIVOCALLY was the problem. Getting over the oral fixation is difficult, no question. I promise you that nicotine is playing yet another dirty trick on you. Use the fake stuff as much as you need, but do not be fooled, nicotine is your addiction.
Join your quit group and figure out why this place works. It's possible and it's achievable. KTC will show you if you jump in with both feet.
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Glad to be part of the family. I had quit 9-16-2016 @ 0730. Had no intentions to quit, acid reflux was bothering me so I spit that juicy deliciousness in a trash can. Three hours go by... I didn't notice. After realizing I set a personal best I handed my Grizzly Wintergreen Long Cut to my buddy. Since that day, it's been an easy road. Eight years, I used a little less than a can and a half a day. I'm going to win, because I want to win. Easy day. However, my question for most of y'all War dogs is concern of my tongue. For a fixation, I usually swirl a toothpick in my mouth... all day. My tongue has little white looking blisters, mostly on the sides. Is this normal? Is it the toothpicks, acid levels normalizing, or...
See a doctor or dentist about your tongue.
I spit that juicy deliciousness in a trash can.
Really? After 8 years you are addicted enough to think this way. Quitting will help your mouth and posting roll daily will keep you quit.
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Does anyone here have ADHD? I haven't had a dip in 2 weeks, and I have been doing amazing! However, yesterday I took my ADHD meds and the cravings went through the roof!
Has anyone else had this experience? What can I do about it?
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Does anyone here have ADHD? I haven't had a dip in 2 weeks, and I have been doing amazing! However, yesterday I took my ADHD meds and the cravings went through the roof!
Has anyone else had this experience? What can I do about it?
Hey Hank - I don't have ADHD but I'm sure there are some here that do. Hopefully someone will come along shortly to shed some light.
Congrats on two weeks of freedom!
Chewie
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Does anyone here have ADHD? I haven't had a dip in 2 weeks, and I have been doing amazing! However, yesterday I took my ADHD meds and the cravings went through the roof!
Has anyone else had this experience? What can I do about it?
Hey Hank - I don't have ADHD but I'm sure there are some here that do. Hopefully someone will come along shortly to shed some light.
Congrats on two weeks of freedom!
Chewie
I fit that bill as do many other quitters. You need stimulants to help with ADHD. So when you took your meds with a fat lip of worm dirt washed down with coffee.... you felt good. Now your body is searching for that chemical cocktail.
You will be fine, it takes time. Post roll and find something else to do.
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Hello all. New member...still trying to figure out how to work the site, but reading the posts is inspiring.
Been off and on with Copenhagen for about 20 years. A can every 2 or 3 days. More on than off, but did have a 2 year quit and can't really even remember why I stated again. Probably one of those "I'll get a can for just the weekend" thoughts.
Heading into Day 7 of my quit. I have no cravings what-so-ever and really ready to be done with this beast. Fog was noticeably better today, but still fighting insomnia and pretty severe anxiety. Don't drink more than a few beers a month and never smoked, but I find myself checking my mouth several times a day. Never had the leukoplakia patches or mouth pain in 20 years, but that's doing very little to ease my anxiety over the big C. Just wondering what others deal with. Is this an over-reaction to the anxiety of withdrawal that eases over time? KTC benefits timeline aside, there is very little information I've been able to find on cancer risks after quitting. I see a lot of 30+ year users on the site, but no one seems to note any issues after their quit.
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Hello all. New member...still trying to figure out how to work the site, but reading the posts is inspiring.
Been off and on with Copenhagen for about 20 years. A can every 2 or 3 days. More on than off, but did have a 2 year quit and can't really even remember why I stated again. Probably one of those "I'll get a can for just the weekend" thoughts.
Heading into Day 7 of my quit. I have no cravings what-so-ever and really ready to be done with this beast. Fog was noticeably better today, but still fighting insomnia and pretty severe anxiety. Don't drink more than a few beers a month and never smoked, but I find myself checking my mouth several times a day. Never had the leukoplakia patches or mouth pain in 20 years, but that's doing very little to ease my anxiety over the big C. Just wondering what others deal with. Is this an over-reaction to the anxiety of withdrawal that eases over time? KTC benefits timeline aside, there is very little information I've been able to find on cancer risks after quitting. I see a lot of 30+ year users on the site, but no one seems to note any issues after their quit.
Take a read: topic/1010002/1 (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1010002/1)
Anxiety eases over time, but it eases faster if you join a quit group because others are going through exactly what you are and that camaraderie can help big time.
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Hello all. New member...still trying to figure out how to work the site, but reading the posts is inspiring.
Been off and on with Copenhagen for about 20 years. A can every 2 or 3 days. More on than off, but did have a 2 year quit and can't really even remember why I stated again. Probably one of those "I'll get a can for just the weekend" thoughts.
Heading into Day 7 of my quit. I have no cravings what-so-ever and really ready to be done with this beast. Fog was noticeably better today, but still fighting insomnia and pretty severe anxiety. Don't drink more than a few beers a month and never smoked, but I find myself checking my mouth several times a day. Never had the leukoplakia patches or mouth pain in 20 years, but that's doing very little to ease my anxiety over the big C. Just wondering what others deal with. Is this an over-reaction to the anxiety of withdrawal that eases over time? KTC benefits timeline aside, there is very little information I've been able to find on cancer risks after quitting. I see a lot of 30+ year users on the site, but no one seems to note any issues after their quit.
Take a read: topic/1010002/1 (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1010002/1)
Anxiety eases over time, but it eases faster if you join a quit group because others are going through exactly what you are and that camaraderie can help big time.
Check out the welcome center:
forum/55560/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/55560/)
How we succed and stay quit is posting roll every day and being active on the site:
Here is your quit group: topic/30025780/51/#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30025780/51/#new)
I checked my mouth like a detective for the first year, it didn't help just made me lose sleep and have anxiety.
I am 789 days quit, I still worry about the damage I inflicted on myself, but I see the dentist regularly and I know my body is healing.
Post roll and always be ready for the 'just one chew or can' thought to sneak up on you.
Idaho Spuds 789
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RickC here. I've thought about coming back to KTC for years now but haven't. I failed twice while on this site, but not because of KTC. As I get older I continue to get wiser...well, except for the 2 cans+ of Copenhagen Long Cut Straight shit I put in my lip every day...ok, there's probably a lot of other things as well. The hold dip has on me now, and has had on me for 20 years this month has to stop. How can a can of dip mean more to me than my kids, my wife, my family, friends, and myself? The fact that I've thought about quitting (and I've quit multiple times for a few weeks or months...actually most nights when I go to bed) for about as long as I've dipped proves the power this fucking shit has. Well, I've allowed it to have that power though. I'm a damn addict...not crack, heroin, etc., but it's the same thing for the most part. It controls my thoughts, my sleep, where I choose to go, when I can talk to someone, kiss my wife, what I eat or drink (because another dip is better after another beer or some food)...the list goes on and on.
I have stopped "blaming" dip a long time ago. I just accepted some things...that I am weak, a fucking pussy, not a quitter, I'll die of something anyway, it's too late to quit, i need it, I want it...there, that was it..."I WANT IT"!!!! It's not the dip, it's me. I am weak, but only because I have chosen to keep dipping, and allowed it to become so powerful that I no longer think straight. How did this happen? Where did Rick go? How could I be 40 years old dipping over 2 tins a day when just yesterday I was graduating from college, getting married, having beautiful kids, and telling myself that I would quit "tomorrow". Who am I now as a man that does not have the strength to stop something that he wants to stop? So, is dip really that powerful or am I just that weak? Well, I believe both. One can not survive without the other. It's a hell of a habit, and one I don't wish on anyone. I personally know people who have dipped for 25 years and can somehow have 1 or two dips a day...I can't do that. 25 year old me said he could and now I'm 40. I will not be 41 years old with that same mentality...been there and it doesn't work.
So, after all this nonsense rambling this late at night (FYI - wife just came out to the living room half asleep asking why I'm still up at 2am haha), all I really want to say is "Will KTC allow me to post day 1 on Sunday 10/16 when I'm one full day dip free? I let down a few people on here a couple years back and not sure they are still on here, but 2 names that enter my mind are MattyC and Sig...there were two others but I apologize because I can't remember and hopefully they may. Tomorrow will be a breeze, the next not so bad, the 3rd day hell begins...and then continues. I'm great at lasting through the fog...my wife knows I'm lying by the way :). Have a good night all, and thank you for reading some or even all of what I wrote. Hell, I could write forever ha. FYI - my username a couple years ago was "nolongeradipper"...what a jackass I am, right? Fuck Dip, but it's not dip it's me being a fucking pussy not having the balls to quit. Better late than never.
- RickC
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RickC here. I've thought about coming back to KTC for years now but haven't. I failed twice while on this site, but not because of KTC. As I get older I continue to get wiser...well, except for the 2 cans+ of Copenhagen Long Cut Straight shit I put in my lip every day...ok, there's probably a lot of other things as well. The hold dip has on me now, and has had on me for 20 years this month has to stop. How can a can of dip mean more to me than my kids, my wife, my family, friends, and myself? The fact that I've thought about quitting (and I've quit multiple times for a few weeks or months...actually most nights when I go to bed) for about as long as I've dipped proves the power this fucking shit has. Well, I've allowed it to have that power though. I'm a damn addict...not crack, heroin, etc., but it's the same thing for the most part. It controls my thoughts, my sleep, where I choose to go, when I can talk to someone, kiss my wife, what I eat or drink (because another dip is better after another beer or some food)...the list goes on and on.
I have stopped "blaming" dip a long time ago. I just accepted some things...that I am weak, a fucking pussy, not a quitter, I'll die of something anyway, it's too late to quit, i need it, I want it...there, that was it..."I WANT IT"!!!! It's not the dip, it's me. I am weak, but only because I have chosen to keep dipping, and allowed it to become so powerful that I no longer think straight. How did this happen? Where did Rick go? How could I be 40 years old dipping over 2 tins a day when just yesterday I was graduating from college, getting married, having beautiful kids, and telling myself that I would quit "tomorrow". Who am I now as a man that does not have the strength to stop something that he wants to stop? So, is dip really that powerful or am I just that weak? Well, I believe both. One can not survive without the other. It's a hell of a habit, and one I don't wish on anyone. I personally know people who have dipped for 25 years and can somehow have 1 or two dips a day...I can't do that. 25 year old me said he could and now I'm 40. I will not be 41 years old with that same mentality...been there and it doesn't work.
So, after all this nonsense rambling this late at night (FYI - wife just came out to the living room half asleep asking why I'm still up at 2am haha), all I really want to say is "Will KTC allow me to post day 1 on Sunday 10/16 when I'm one full day dip free? I let down a few people on here a couple years back and not sure they are still on here, but 2 names that enter my mind are MattyC and Sig...there were two others but I apologize because I can't remember and hopefully they may. Tomorrow will be a breeze, the next not so bad, the 3rd day hell begins...and then continues. I'm great at lasting through the fog...my wife knows I'm lying by the way :). Have a good night all, and thank you for reading some or even all of what I wrote. Hell, I could write forever ha. FYI - my username a couple years ago was "nolongeradipper"...what a jackass I am, right? Fuck Dip, but it's not dip it's me being a fucking pussy not having the balls to quit. Better late than never.
- RickC
Hey Rick, glad you're looking to quit and get serious.
There are a few things that you will need to do to build credibility on this site to the point that folks will help you.
1. You can't have multiple screen names. You'll need to come back with your original account and not use this one. That's actually a pretty major offense. As you were open about it, I assume that you didn't realize that, but I'm sure a Mod will reach out soon to explain. The idea is that you can't wipe away your history. You can move forward, but you can't forget why you failed last time. You'll need to explain why you chose to do that.
2. You need to post roll in the January group. Your "day 1" is the day that you last used. So even if you dipped this morning, your day one would start today if you committed to not use again. As you've been here before, I assume that you know about roll. Posting first thing daily is a requirement for use of this site.
3. As a caver, you will need to answer three questions to your new group and your old group. 1. What happened? 2. Why did it happen? 3. What will you do differently to prevent it from happening again? You seem to have most of those pieces thought out in this post, so you'll want to take those thoughts and put them in that three question format and post them in the January group and whatever group you were in before.
4. You need to be 100% serious and ready to do this. Be on roll every single day, read everything and figure out how this site works. Reach out and help new people. As someone who has caved more than once and is now trying to come back with a new screen name, you are going to have a lot of folks who will flat out not give a shit about helping you. You're going to have to work extra hard to earn the respect and support that you will need in this quit.
Let me know if you need me to clarify anything. There is no luck involved here, so I won't wish you any. I will be rooting for you and I hope that you follow up.
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RickC here. I've thought about coming back to KTC for years now but haven't. I failed twice while on this site, but not because of KTC. As I get older I continue to get wiser...well, except for the 2 cans+ of Copenhagen Long Cut Straight shit I put in my lip every day...ok, there's probably a lot of other things as well. The hold dip has on me now, and has had on me for 20 years this month has to stop. How can a can of dip mean more to me than my kids, my wife, my family, friends, and myself? The fact that I've thought about quitting (and I've quit multiple times for a few weeks or months...actually most nights when I go to bed) for about as long as I've dipped proves the power this fucking shit has. Well, I've allowed it to have that power though. I'm a damn addict...not crack, heroin, etc., but it's the same thing for the most part. It controls my thoughts, my sleep, where I choose to go, when I can talk to someone, kiss my wife, what I eat or drink (because another dip is better after another beer or some food)...the list goes on and on.
I have stopped "blaming" dip a long time ago. I just accepted some things...that I am weak, a fucking pussy, not a quitter, I'll die of something anyway, it's too late to quit, i need it, I want it...there, that was it..."I WANT IT"!!!! It's not the dip, it's me. I am weak, but only because I have chosen to keep dipping, and allowed it to become so powerful that I no longer think straight. How did this happen? Where did Rick go? How could I be 40 years old dipping over 2 tins a day when just yesterday I was graduating from college, getting married, having beautiful kids, and telling myself that I would quit "tomorrow". Who am I now as a man that does not have the strength to stop something that he wants to stop? So, is dip really that powerful or am I just that weak? Well, I believe both. One can not survive without the other. It's a hell of a habit, and one I don't wish on anyone. I personally know people who have dipped for 25 years and can somehow have 1 or two dips a day...I can't do that. 25 year old me said he could and now I'm 40. I will not be 41 years old with that same mentality...been there and it doesn't work.
So, after all this nonsense rambling this late at night (FYI - wife just came out to the living room half asleep asking why I'm still up at 2am haha), all I really want to say is "Will KTC allow me to post day 1 on Sunday 10/16 when I'm one full day dip free? I let down a few people on here a couple years back and not sure they are still on here, but 2 names that enter my mind are MattyC and Sig...there were two others but I apologize because I can't remember and hopefully they may. Tomorrow will be a breeze, the next not so bad, the 3rd day hell begins...and then continues. I'm great at lasting through the fog...my wife knows I'm lying by the way :). Have a good night all, and thank you for reading some or even all of what I wrote. Hell, I could write forever ha. FYI - my username a couple years ago was "nolongeradipper"...what a jackass I am, right? Fuck Dip, but it's not dip it's me being a fucking pussy not having the balls to quit. Better late than never.
- RickC
Hey Rick, glad you're looking to quit and get serious.
There are a few things that you will need to do to build credibility on this site to the point that folks will help you.
1. You can't have multiple screen names. You'll need to come back with your original account and not use this one. That's actually a pretty major offense. As you were open about it, I assume that you didn't realize that, but I'm sure a Mod will reach out soon to explain. The idea is that you can't wipe away your history. You can move forward, but you can't forget why you failed last time. You'll need to explain why you chose to do that.
2. You need to post roll in the January group. Your "day 1" is the day that you last used. So even if you dipped this morning, your day one would start today if you committed to not use again. As you've been here before, I assume that you know about roll. Posting first thing daily is a requirement for use of this site.
3. As a caver, you will need to answer three questions to your new group and your old group. 1. What happened? 2. Why did it happen? 3. What will you do differently to prevent it from happening again? You seem to have most of those pieces thought out in this post, so you'll want to take those thoughts and put them in that three question format and post them in the January group and whatever group you were in before.
4. You need to be 100% serious and ready to do this. Be on roll every single day, read everything and figure out how this site works. Reach out and help new people. As someone who has caved more than once and is now trying to come back with a new screen name, you are going to have a lot of folks who will flat out not give a shit about helping you. You're going to have to work extra hard to earn the respect and support that you will need in this quit.
Let me know if you need me to clarify anything. There is no luck involved here, so I won't wish you any. I will be rooting for you and I hope that you follow up.
After reading up on your old screen name, I see why you would want to start fresh - although that certainly doesn't excuse it. It was several years ago, so I seriously hope you've grown up like you said you have. If you pull the same kind of flaky crap this time around, you'll lose KTC as a resource.
You will need to have a good explanation as to why you did that, so make sure you've thought through what you're going to say before jumping in to a new group.
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Hello, all. Newbie here, five days since my last pinch of Skoal.
Here's my question. The first thing I did was to go out and buy nicotine gum at the drug store, and I've been using it. Is this a bad thing to wean off chew slowly with this? Should I try to divorce myself from the gum as quickly as possible, or should I follow through with a gradual process?
Thanks for any answers.
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Hello, all. Newbie here, five days since my last pinch of Skoal.
Here's my question. The first thing I did was to go out and buy nicotine gum at the drug store, and I've been using it. Is this a bad thing to wean off chew slowly with this? Should I try to divorce myself from the gum as quickly as possible, or should I follow through with a gradual process?
Thanks for any answers.
Nicotine gum contains nicotine.
What you've done is change delivery methods. (IE you're an alcoholic that's switched from Jack Daniel's to Miller Lite).
This gradual process can work for some people but we subscribe to the cold turkey method as we believe with ever fiber of our being that it's the best way to quit.
Throw the gum away, go cold turkey and post roll with your group. It will suck balls... but it will be worth it in the end.
Chewie
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RickC here. I've thought about coming back to KTC for years now but haven't. I failed twice while on this site, but not because of KTC. As I get older I continue to get wiser...well, except for the 2 cans+ of Copenhagen Long Cut Straight shit I put in my lip every day...ok, there's probably a lot of other things as well. The hold dip has on me now, and has had on me for 20 years this month has to stop. How can a can of dip mean more to me than my kids, my wife, my family, friends, and myself? The fact that I've thought about quitting (and I've quit multiple times for a few weeks or months...actually most nights when I go to bed) for about as long as I've dipped proves the power this fucking shit has. Well, I've allowed it to have that power though. I'm a damn addict...not crack, heroin, etc., but it's the same thing for the most part. It controls my thoughts, my sleep, where I choose to go, when I can talk to someone, kiss my wife, what I eat or drink (because another dip is better after another beer or some food)...the list goes on and on.
I have stopped "blaming" dip a long time ago. I just accepted some things...that I am weak, a fucking pussy, not a quitter, I'll die of something anyway, it's too late to quit, i need it, I want it...there, that was it..."I WANT IT"!!!! It's not the dip, it's me. I am weak, but only because I have chosen to keep dipping, and allowed it to become so powerful that I no longer think straight. How did this happen? Where did Rick go? How could I be 40 years old dipping over 2 tins a day when just yesterday I was graduating from college, getting married, having beautiful kids, and telling myself that I would quit "tomorrow". Who am I now as a man that does not have the strength to stop something that he wants to stop? So, is dip really that powerful or am I just that weak? Well, I believe both. One can not survive without the other. It's a hell of a habit, and one I don't wish on anyone. I personally know people who have dipped for 25 years and can somehow have 1 or two dips a day...I can't do that. 25 year old me said he could and now I'm 40. I will not be 41 years old with that same mentality...been there and it doesn't work.
So, after all this nonsense rambling this late at night (FYI - wife just came out to the living room half asleep asking why I'm still up at 2am haha), all I really want to say is "Will KTC allow me to post day 1 on Sunday 10/16 when I'm one full day dip free? I let down a few people on here a couple years back and not sure they are still on here, but 2 names that enter my mind are MattyC and Sig...there were two others but I apologize because I can't remember and hopefully they may. Tomorrow will be a breeze, the next not so bad, the 3rd day hell begins...and then continues. I'm great at lasting through the fog...my wife knows I'm lying by the way :). Have a good night all, and thank you for reading some or even all of what I wrote. Hell, I could write forever ha. FYI - my username a couple years ago was "nolongeradipper"...what a jackass I am, right? Fuck Dip, but it's not dip it's me being a fucking pussy not having the balls to quit. Better late than never.
- RickC
Hey Rick, glad you're looking to quit and get serious.
There are a few things that you will need to do to build credibility on this site to the point that folks will help you.
1. You can't have multiple screen names. You'll need to come back with your original account and not use this one. That's actually a pretty major offense. As you were open about it, I assume that you didn't realize that, but I'm sure a Mod will reach out soon to explain. The idea is that you can't wipe away your history. You can move forward, but you can't forget why you failed last time. You'll need to explain why you chose to do that.
2. You need to post roll in the January group. Your "day 1" is the day that you last used. So even if you dipped this morning, your day one would start today if you committed to not use again. As you've been here before, I assume that you know about roll. Posting first thing daily is a requirement for use of this site.
3. As a caver, you will need to answer three questions to your new group and your old group. 1. What happened? 2. Why did it happen? 3. What will you do differently to prevent it from happening again? You seem to have most of those pieces thought out in this post, so you'll want to take those thoughts and put them in that three question format and post them in the January group and whatever group you were in before.
4. You need to be 100% serious and ready to do this. Be on roll every single day, read everything and figure out how this site works. Reach out and help new people. As someone who has caved more than once and is now trying to come back with a new screen name, you are going to have a lot of folks who will flat out not give a shit about helping you. You're going to have to work extra hard to earn the respect and support that you will need in this quit.
Let me know if you need me to clarify anything. There is no luck involved here, so I won't wish you any. I will be rooting for you and I hope that you follow up.
After reading up on your old screen name, I see why you would want to start fresh - although that certainly doesn't excuse it. It was several years ago, so I seriously hope you've grown up like you said you have. If you pull the same kind of flaky crap this time around, you'll lose KTC as a resource.
You will need to have a good explanation as to why you did that, so make sure you've thought through what you're going to say before jumping in to a new group.
Rick - welcome back. Sorry to see that you've failed but happy that you've made your way back.
Please discontinue using this account and go back to using nolongeradipper. If you need help regaining access to that account let me or another admin know and we can assist.
Chewie
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Hello, all. Newbie here, five days since my last pinch of Skoal.
Here's my question. The first thing I did was to go out and buy nicotine gum at the drug store, and I've been using it. Is this a bad thing to wean off chew slowly with this? Should I try to divorce myself from the gum as quickly as possible, or should I follow through with a gradual process?
Thanks for any answers.
Nicotine gum contains nicotine.
What you've done is change delivery methods. (IE you're an alcoholic that's switched from Jack Daniel's to Miller Lite).
This gradual process can work for some people but we subscribe to the cold turkey method as we believe with ever fiber of our being that it's the best way to quit.
Throw the gum away, go cold turkey and post roll with your group. It will suck balls... but it will be worth it in the end.
Chewie
I'm going to do it your way. We'll see how it goes.
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Hello, all. Newbie here, five days since my last pinch of Skoal.
Here's my question. The first thing I did was to go out and buy nicotine gum at the drug store, and I've been using it. Is this a bad thing to wean off chew slowly with this? Should I try to divorce myself from the gum as quickly as possible, or should I follow through with a gradual process?
Thanks for any answers.
Nicotine gum contains nicotine.
What you've done is change delivery methods. (IE you're an alcoholic that's switched from Jack Daniel's to Miller Lite).
This gradual process can work for some people but we subscribe to the cold turkey method as we believe with ever fiber of our being that it's the best way to quit.
Throw the gum away, go cold turkey and post roll with your group. It will suck balls... but it will be worth it in the end.
Chewie
I'm going to do it your way. We'll see how it goes.
Don't give yourself an out Jr. "We'll see how it goes" leaves the door wide open for the demon to tempt you. Join a quit group: Pre-HOF January 2017 (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30025780/63/#new). You can share your experiences, both good and bad, with others that are going through the same stage. Post roll everyday and make your promise to your fellow quitters and yourself that you will not use nicotine in any form today. Period. Be a man of integrity and keep your promise. Wake up the next day and do it again. You can do this, but giving it the ol' college try won't get it done. It's hard work and it can be miserable at times, but it is worth every second of the freedom you will be earning.
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Is there anyone on here from the DFW area? I am trying to find a place in the area that carries Bacc Off...no success so far.
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Is there anyone on here from the DFW area? I am trying to find a place in the area that carries Bacc Off...no success so far.
Yes, a slew of them. Check this thread: topic/1007276/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1007276/)
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Well i quit yesterday at midnight, said to myself that i cant keep playing this game. I had quit once, a couple years ago and did well for about 5 months, then the bachelor party happened. Moving through the first 72 hrs is absolutely killing me but i'm pumped to have found this forum, so thank for having it.
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Well i quit yesterday at midnight, said to myself that i cant keep playing this game. I had quit once, a couple years ago and did well for about 5 months, then the bachelor party happened. Moving through the first 72 hrs is absolutely killing me but i'm pumped to have found this forum, so thank for having it.
Mike?
Welcome congratulations on your decision.
A few things to help your through your quit:
- We post roll daily; here is your quit GroupJanuary 2017 (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30025780/149/#new)
- This is you quit, you only took a break before
- We take out quits and KTC seriously, buckle down and get after it
Idaho Spuds 796 days free
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Is "Fake Dip" a legitimate long term alternative to tobacco?
I was a heavy dipper for 35 years (except for a few breaks including one for 4 years). Every day I would pack my lip with dip. I was addicted to the nicotine, but part of my addiction was, (or should I say "is") the feel and taste in my lip. Before I quit I ordered a variety of fake dips to try. When I found one that was close to the feel and taste of Cope snuff I stopped using tobacco and used the fake stuff. I now dip the fake almost as much as I was dipping the poison.
The main reason I quit was the health risks, but I also wanted to quit because dipping, whether tobacco or a substitute, is not socially acceptable and I didn't want to be controlled by a can of ground up plant material. I have successfully quit the tobacco so far (ODAAT). But have I exchanged one deadly and disgusting habit for another safer, but equally disgusting one?
Hooch spitfire is the brand I have been using. I do not intend to continue using it forever, but I do not think my quit would have gone as smoothly without it. My cravings for the real stuff have been minimal and easily satisfied with the Hooch. I have been dealing with the chemical addiction, but done nothing to break the habit of the oral fixation. I know that KTC suggests/requires that we quit cold turkey. Although I have not had any nicotine of any form since I quit, I don't feel like I really quit cold turkey. The fake dip has been a crutch. I am not saying that's a bad thing as long as it's temporary.
My question is will quitting the habit of dipping the fake be easier with the nicotine out of my system? And is the fake covering up any affects of withdrawal that I may experience when I quit it? I would appreciate any thoughts on this, especially from anyone who has used these products.
Tony - quit Sept 25, 2016
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Is "Fake Dip" a legitimate long term alternative to tobacco?
I was a heavy dipper for 35 years (except for a few breaks including one for 4 years). Every day I would pack my lip with dip. I was addicted to the nicotine, but part of my addiction was, (or should I say "is") the feel and taste in my lip. Before I quit I ordered a variety of fake dips to try. When I found one that was close to the feel and taste of Cope snuff I stopped using tobacco and used the fake stuff. I now dip the fake almost as much as I was dipping the poison.
The main reason I quit was the health risks, but I also wanted to quit because dipping, whether tobacco or a substitute, is not socially acceptable and I didn't want to be controlled by a can of ground up plant material. I have successfully quit the tobacco so far (ODAAT). But have I exchanged one deadly and disgusting habit for another safer, but equally disgusting one?
Hooch spitfire is the brand I have been using. I do not intend to continue using it forever, but I do not think my quit would have gone as smoothly without it. My cravings for the real stuff have been minimal and easily satisfied with the Hooch. I have been dealing with the chemical addiction, but done nothing to break the habit of the oral fixation. I know that KTC suggests/requires that we quit cold turkey. Although I have not had any nicotine of any form since I quit, I don't feel like I really quit cold turkey. The fake dip has been a crutch. I am not saying that's a bad thing as long as it's temporary.
My question is will quitting the habit of dipping the fake be easier with the nicotine out of my system? And is the fake covering up any affects of withdrawal that I may experience when I quit it? I would appreciate any thoughts on this, especially from anyone who has used these products.
Tony - quit Sept 25, 2016
Whatever it takes to keep nicotine out of your system is fine. I chewed Copenagen for 35 years, and used fake dip (Oregon Mint) for nearly 200 days- then just stopped grabbing it. Now at 525 days with no oral fix. Most quitters here will use something to separate the oral fix from the nicotine. It helps. I wouldn't worry about the fake becoming a long term need. You will use less over time.
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Hello, thanks for setting up this site, the encouragement is fantastic! I quit in June of this year after 20+ years of a can of Cope per day. And I loved it... I quit because I hated being mastered by a small can. Even though I'm about 4 months into quitting, the past week or so has been tortuous. I even dream about dipping. I had reckoned that it would be pretty easy after the first month or so... wrong. Is that normal? I've been chewing gum, crunching mints, started seeds, and have gone back to fake dip. Prayer and stubbornness are keeping me clean, but my goodness. Can I anticipate fighting this way for the next good while? Have you long term quitters reached a point where dipping is no longer dominant in your thinking?
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Hello, thanks for setting up this site, the encouragement is fantastic! I quit in June of this year after 20+ years of a can of Cope per day. And I loved it... I quit because I hated being mastered by a small can. Even though I'm about 4 months into quitting, the past week or so has been tortuous. I even dream about dipping. I had reckoned that it would be pretty easy after the first month or so... wrong. Is that normal? I've been chewing gum, crunching mints, started seeds, and have gone back to fake dip. Prayer and stubbornness are keeping me clean, but my goodness. Can I anticipate fighting this way for the next good while? Have you long term quitters reached a point where dipping is no longer dominant in your thinking?
Hello Chipper. Congratulations on your quit, that's pretty bad ass stuff right there, 120+ days.
For me, almost at 440 now, I can say that Nicotine no longer rules my thoughts. However, I am always wary. The problem is now and always will be, that I am an addict. Addicted to that nastiness.
The guys at 200 days, and the successful guys at 300, 400 500, 1000 + days will all say the same thing. Addict - Yes. Slave to the can - no more.
We are always keeping an eye out. Cravings still come, but nothing like where you are at. I reached a eureka moment around 200 days or so. Yes the physical addiction of the first 72 hours was murder.
The flat out mind games that started after then for me was and still is crazy. Dip dreams, for sure, even now. These thoughts in your head now are all mind games - the crafty nicotine bitch is trying anything she can to get you back in her grips.
Dreams, doubts, craves, you name it. She wants you back
I think my hardest days have been 100 - about 175. Post HOF let down.. (100 days in HOF here). Sort of anti-climactic... I was kicking the habit, but was let down because I still refused to call myself an addict. I rededicated myself to quitting and visiting the Intros, this page and helping newbies get rolling.
That turned the lightswtich on for me and everything started falling into place. Nothing helps your own quit than reaching out to a newbie. Just when I think I am struggling, I visit the intros, the new quit groups and interact with those poor bastards who are just starting their quit. Puts things into perspective for me.
Did you ever think of joining up with a group here? And spreading some of your quit wisdom around? These guys in the group you would join are all going through the same thing you are, since you all will have quit around the same time.
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Is "Fake Dip" a legitimate long term alternative to tobacco?
I was a heavy dipper for 35 years (except for a few breaks including one for 4 years). Every day I would pack my lip with dip. I was addicted to the nicotine, but part of my addiction was, (or should I say "is") the feel and taste in my lip. Before I quit I ordered a variety of fake dips to try. When I found one that was close to the feel and taste of Cope snuff I stopped using tobacco and used the fake stuff. I now dip the fake almost as much as I was dipping the poison.
The main reason I quit was the health risks, but I also wanted to quit because dipping, whether tobacco or a substitute, is not socially acceptable and I didn't want to be controlled by a can of ground up plant material. I have successfully quit the tobacco so far (ODAAT). But have I exchanged one deadly and disgusting habit for another safer, but equally disgusting one?
Hooch spitfire is the brand I have been using. I do not intend to continue using it forever, but I do not think my quit would have gone as smoothly without it. My cravings for the real stuff have been minimal and easily satisfied with the Hooch. I have been dealing with the chemical addiction, but done nothing to break the habit of the oral fixation. I know that KTC suggests/requires that we quit cold turkey. Although I have not had any nicotine of any form since I quit, I don't feel like I really quit cold turkey. The fake dip has been a crutch. I am not saying that's a bad thing as long as it's temporary.
My question is will quitting the habit of dipping the fake be easier with the nicotine out of my system? And is the fake covering up any affects of withdrawal that I may experience when I quit it? I would appreciate any thoughts on this, especially from anyone who has used these products.
Tony - quit Sept 25, 2016
Whatever it takes to keep nicotine out of your system is fine. I chewed Copenagen for 35 years, and used fake dip (Oregon Mint) for nearly 200 days- then just stopped grabbing it. Now at 525 days with no oral fix. Most quitters here will use something to separate the oral fix from the nicotine. It helps. I wouldn't worry about the fake becoming a long term need. You will use less over time.
I too dipped Cope for nearly 30 years. I am now 266 days dip free. I also used fake dip nearly as much as the real stuff early on, but now a can of fake is lasting me a few weeks. I just keep it around for times when I have a strong crave. I was also concerned that I was just trading one addiction for another, but everyone I asked about it said the same thing. You will need it until you don't. I am no longer concerned about it. Just keep the real stuff out of your lip and keep on quittin'.
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Is "Fake Dip" a legitimate long term alternative to tobacco?
I was a heavy dipper for 35 years (except for a few breaks including one for 4 years). Every day I would pack my lip with dip. I was addicted to the nicotine, but part of my addiction was, (or should I say "is") the feel and taste in my lip. Before I quit I ordered a variety of fake dips to try. When I found one that was close to the feel and taste of Cope snuff I stopped using tobacco and used the fake stuff. I now dip the fake almost as much as I was dipping the poison.
The main reason I quit was the health risks, but I also wanted to quit because dipping, whether tobacco or a substitute, is not socially acceptable and I didn't want to be controlled by a can of ground up plant material. I have successfully quit the tobacco so far (ODAAT). But have I exchanged one deadly and disgusting habit for another safer, but equally disgusting one?
Hooch spitfire is the brand I have been using. I do not intend to continue using it forever, but I do not think my quit would have gone as smoothly without it. My cravings for the real stuff have been minimal and easily satisfied with the Hooch. I have been dealing with the chemical addiction, but done nothing to break the habit of the oral fixation. I know that KTC suggests/requires that we quit cold turkey. Although I have not had any nicotine of any form since I quit, I don't feel like I really quit cold turkey. The fake dip has been a crutch. I am not saying that's a bad thing as long as it's temporary.
My question is will quitting the habit of dipping the fake be easier with the nicotine out of my system? And is the fake covering up any affects of withdrawal that I may experience when I quit it? I would appreciate any thoughts on this, especially from anyone who has used these products.
Tony - quit Sept 25, 2016
Whatever it takes to keep nicotine out of your system is fine. I chewed Copenagen for 35 years, and used fake dip (Oregon Mint) for nearly 200 days- then just stopped grabbing it. Now at 525 days with no oral fix. Most quitters here will use something to separate the oral fix from the nicotine. It helps. I wouldn't worry about the fake becoming a long term need. You will use less over time.
I too dipped Cope for nearly 30 years. I am now 266 days dip free. I also used fake dip nearly as much as the real stuff early on, but now a can of fake is lasting me a few weeks. I just keep it around for times when I have a strong crave. I was also concerned that I was just trading one addiction for another, but everyone I asked about it said the same thing. You will need it until you don't. I am no longer concerned about it. Just keep the real stuff out of your lip and keep on quittin'.
Thanks nomore and mcsnapper that makes me feel a lot better. I would hate to think that I would go through all this just to be booked on something else and go through it all again. Big relief
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On day number 35 of my quit. Dipped for 18 plus years of around a can every two days. The anxiety and mind games have been the worst for me. I have never even breached the stuff I think about daily when I dipped. Not fun questions that now pop into my head. I guess I dipped to deal with the stresses of life. I will be better off on the other side but in the middle of it sucks. Finally getting some sleep which helps. I have zero intention of ever doing kodiak or any other tobacco again, but this sucks I definitely thought by now I would be over it.
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On day number 35 of my quit. Dipped for 18 plus years of around a can every two days. The anxiety and mind games have been the worst for me. I have never even breached the stuff I think about daily when I dipped. Not fun questions that now pop into my head. I guess I dipped to deal with the stresses of life. I will be better off on the other side but in the middle of it sucks. Finally getting some sleep which helps. I have zero intention of ever doing kodiak or any other tobacco again, but this sucks I definitely thought by now I would be over it.
Hey Kyle! Great job on 35 days quitting alone. Why aren't you posting roll in December's quit group? There is a ton of strength to be found in a pack and in making a daily pledge. Go on over, post roll and introduce yourself! These are folks at the same point in the journey as you!
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On day number 35 of my quit. Dipped for 18 plus years of around a can every two days. The anxiety and mind games have been the worst for me. I have never even breached the stuff I think about daily when I dipped. Not fun questions that now pop into my head. I guess I dipped to deal with the stresses of life. I will be better off on the other side but in the middle of it sucks. Finally getting some sleep which helps. I have zero intention of ever doing kodiak or any other tobacco again, but this sucks I definitely thought by now I would be over it.
Hey Kyle! Great job on 35 days quitting alone. Why aren't you posting roll in December's quit group? There is a ton of strength to be found in a pack and in making a daily pledge. Go on over, post roll and introduce yourself! These are folks at the same point in the journey as you!
Exactly right man. Thats what being in a group is all about. You guys get to know each other, exchange digits, discuss things that are going on in your quit.
Just hang in there man, it gets significantly better soon for you. Join the group and you will get more support than you could have imagined. The general discussion is fine, but nothing like joining a quit group.
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I'm on my fourth day without nicotine. Seems like it may be getting better but it goes in waves. I was a tin a day guy for 35 years and my nic free brain seems like it is going through a very powerful change. I never want to have to go through this again!
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I'm on my fourth day without nicotine. Seems like it may be getting better but it goes in waves. I was a tin a day guy for 35 years and my nic free brain seems like it is going through a very powerful change. I never want to have to go through this again!
badger you are in the February group in the quit groups head in there and post a day 4!!!
Congrats though on being quit, it will come with many struggles and battles but you got this remember we have all been through this, Hydrate lots of water will help, use any alternatives you can to help cravings (seeds, gum,fake,jolly ranchers).
Use this site as a tool and dive in head first and start your journey of KTC excellence, We do one day at time and never anymore. reach out get fellow quitters numbers that way when you have a time you feel you may cave you have instant contact with someone. Everyday is a new chapter and a new way of functioning with out nicotine.
Wake up piss post, thats the motto we live by for posting roll
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I'm on my fourth day without nicotine. Seems like it may be getting better but it goes in waves. I was a tin a day guy for 35 years and my nic free brain seems like it is going through a very powerful change. I never want to have to go through this again!
Congratulations. Just keep plugging through. Read all you can on this site for the next few days. It helps to read even the oldest posts with people having the same experiences. Just hitting the 3 week mark myself and things are noticeably better. Insomnia and severe anxiety at every ache, pain or spot on me were my biggest issues but they do pass. Lots of great people on this site who know what your going through and want you to succeed so post any questions.
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Hello, thanks for setting up this site, the encouragement is fantastic! I quit in June of this year after 20+ years of a can of Cope per day. And I loved it... I quit because I hated being mastered by a small can. Even though I'm about 4 months into quitting, the past week or so has been tortuous. I even dream about dipping. I had reckoned that it would be pretty easy after the first month or so... wrong. Is that normal? I've been chewing gum, crunching mints, started seeds, and have gone back to fake dip. Prayer and stubbornness are keeping me clean, but my goodness. Can I anticipate fighting this way for the next good while? Have you long term quitters reached a point where dipping is no longer dominant in your thinking?
I am in the same boat. I am approaching six months and figured this all would have been in the rear view mirror long ago. While I am proud of myself for making it this far I might be more disappointed that it is still such a struggle.
Yesterday might have been my closest to caving yet because I was so trashed. I think I fully intended to buy a tin but dumb luck might have saved me that it was several blocks away and I didn't make it there.
I never really bought into the posting roll thing because in my mind I would have won this war when I stop thinking about it -and waking up every day where the first thing I do is promise not to chew seems counterproductive to that goal. But maybe it does make sense because I am going to live the rest of my life as an addict, constantly a couple blocks away from throwing it all away on just one Kodiak.
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Hello, thanks for setting up this site, the encouragement is fantastic! I quit in June of this year after 20+ years of a can of Cope per day. And I loved it... I quit because I hated being mastered by a small can. Even though I'm about 4 months into quitting, the past week or so has been tortuous. I even dream about dipping. I had reckoned that it would be pretty easy after the first month or so... wrong. Is that normal? I've been chewing gum, crunching mints, started seeds, and have gone back to fake dip. Prayer and stubbornness are keeping me clean, but my goodness. Can I anticipate fighting this way for the next good while? Have you long term quitters reached a point where dipping is no longer dominant in your thinking?
I am in the same boat. I am approaching six months and figured this all would have been in the rear view mirror long ago. While I am proud of myself for making it this far I might be more disappointed that it is still such a struggle.
Yesterday might have been my closest to caving yet because I was so trashed. I think I fully intended to buy a tin but dumb luck might have saved me that it was several blocks away and I didn't make it there.
I never really bought into the posting roll thing because in my mind I would have won this war when I stop thinking about it -and waking up every day where the first thing I do is promise not to chew seems counterproductive to that goal. But maybe it does make sense because I am going to live the rest of my life as an addict, constantly a couple blocks away from throwing it all away on just one Kodiak.
Not thinking about dip is not the answer. You got one thing right: as an addict, you will never forget about dip. As such, you have to retrain your mind to "think" about it in a different way. That's EXACTLY why posting roll works. When you do that, you promise that no matter how much you think of dip that day, you will not under any circumstances go back on that promise (accountability).
By making that promise public, I don't have to worry about the creeping thoughts of "no one will know," or "it's only one dip, it can't hurt me." That's addict thought and the only way to get through those thoughts is to confront them head on. The side benefit of posting roll is you have at least 20 other quitters going through the exact same thought processes (brotherhood).
When you add the first paragraph to the second paragraph: accountability + brotherhood = success. It's the foundation of this site and it's the only reason I posted day 480 this morning. Some days are better than others. Most days I don't even think about dipping after I post roll, but it's because I've trained myself to believe that there will never be a good enough reason to cave and betray the guys I've posted with for nearly a year and a half. It's not because one day I magically stopped thinking about dip. It's because I no longer give myself an "out" with dip. That takes a lot of hard work and constant retraining of your brain. It's not magic. It's hard work, but it's SO worth the freedom you gain in return.
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Hello, thanks for setting up this site, the encouragement is fantastic! I quit in June of this year after 20+ years of a can of Cope per day. And I loved it... I quit because I hated being mastered by a small can. Even though I'm about 4 months into quitting, the past week or so has been tortuous. I even dream about dipping. I had reckoned that it would be pretty easy after the first month or so... wrong. Is that normal? I've been chewing gum, crunching mints, started seeds, and have gone back to fake dip. Prayer and stubbornness are keeping me clean, but my goodness. Can I anticipate fighting this way for the next good while? Have you long term quitters reached a point where dipping is no longer dominant in your thinking?
I am in the same boat. I am approaching six months and figured this all would have been in the rear view mirror long ago. While I am proud of myself for making it this far I might be more disappointed that it is still such a struggle.
Yesterday might have been my closest to caving yet because I was so trashed. I think I fully intended to buy a tin but dumb luck might have saved me that it was several blocks away and I didn't make it there.
I never really bought into the posting roll thing because in my mind I would have won this war when I stop thinking about it -and waking up every day where the first thing I do is promise not to chew seems counterproductive to that goal. But maybe it does make sense because I am going to live the rest of my life as an addict, constantly a couple blocks away from throwing it all away on just one Kodiak.
Not thinking about dip is not the answer. You got one thing right: as an addict, you will never forget about dip. As such, you have to retrain your mind to "think" about it in a different way. That's EXACTLY why posting roll works. When you do that, you promise that no matter how much you think of dip that day, you will not under any circumstances go back on that promise (accountability).
By making that promise public, I don't have to worry about the creeping thoughts of "no one will know," or "it's only one dip, it can't hurt me." That's addict thought and the only way to get through those thoughts is to confront them head on. The side benefit of posting roll is you have at least 20 other quitters going through the exact same thought processes (brotherhood).
When you add the first paragraph to the second paragraph: accountability + brotherhood = success. It's the foundation of this site and it's the only reason I posted day 480 this morning. Some days are better than others. Most days I don't even think about dipping after I post roll, but it's because I've trained myself to believe that there will never be a good enough reason to cave and betray the guys I've posted with for nearly a year and a half. It's not because one day I magically stopped thinking about dip. It's because I no longer give myself an "out" with dip. That takes a lot of hard work and constant retraining of your brain. It's not magic. It's hard work, but it's SO worth the freedom you gain in return.
King, EXACTLY!
Guys, encouragement is all well and good, but the cornerstone of this site is accountability. Accountability is what drags you through when things are especially tough. That promise means that no matter what the hell is going on in your life, or how painful/ hopeless it seems, nicotine is just not an option for you today.
I'm sure we'd all love the option of moving on like the addiction never happened, but that's just not how it works. The shitty, dragged on, day to day struggle to stay quit is just the price we've gotta pay for starting in the first place. Yeah, it gets better, but I've not heard anyone say that it completely goes away.
I tell you what though - I'd much rather pay THIS price than the price of continuing to feed my addiction. Because that cost involves lies to the people I love, degradation of my health, inability to control my own behavior, financial burden and ultimately death or disfigurement.
Posting roll keeps me aware, but it also means that I can't possibly use because I gave my word that I wouldn't. That's a fair trade in my opinion.
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I'm on my fourth day without nicotine. Seems like it may be getting better but it goes in waves. I was a tin a day guy for 35 years and my nic free brain seems like it is going through a very powerful change. I never want to have to go through this again!
badger you are in the February group in the quit groups head in there and post a day 4!!!
Congrats though on being quit, it will come with many struggles and battles but you got this remember we have all been through this, Hydrate lots of water will help, use any alternatives you can to help cravings (seeds, gum,fake,jolly ranchers).
Use this site as a tool and dive in head first and start your journey of KTC excellence, We do one day at time and never anymore. reach out get fellow quitters numbers that way when you have a time you feel you may cave you have instant contact with someone. Everyday is a new chapter and a new way of functioning with out nicotine.
Wake up piss post, thats the motto we live by for posting roll
Congrats on your Quit badger! The ABSOLUTE KEY is remember how much these first days suck. Promise to yourself that you never want to put yourself through this again!
Tons of tools here to help.- Knowing what to expect helped a ton for me -- (What to Expect First 100 Days (http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/what-to-expect-when-you-quit-dipping/)
- Hearing everyone go through the same stuff is huge too -- Top 100 Reasons to Quit (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/the-top-100-benefits-of-quitting-dip/) -- that link is for fun but it's crazy how many that you'll think you could've written on there.
- And obviously the biggest tools are all of us... wait that didn't sound right... Lean on your quit group early and often. It will help more than you'll expect.
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I'm on my fourth day without nicotine. Seems like it may be getting better but it goes in waves. I was a tin a day guy for 35 years and my nic free brain seems like it is going through a very powerful change. I never want to have to go through this again!
badger you are in the February group in the quit groups head in there and post a day 4!!!
Congrats though on being quit, it will come with many struggles and battles but you got this remember we have all been through this, Hydrate lots of water will help, use any alternatives you can to help cravings (seeds, gum,fake,jolly ranchers).
Use this site as a tool and dive in head first and start your journey of KTC excellence, We do one day at time and never anymore. reach out get fellow quitters numbers that way when you have a time you feel you may cave you have instant contact with someone. Everyday is a new chapter and a new way of functioning with out nicotine.
Wake up piss post, thats the motto we live by for posting roll
Congrats on your Quit badger! The ABSOLUTE KEY is remember how much these first days suck. Promise to yourself that you never want to put yourself through this again!
Tons of tools here to help.- Knowing what to expect helped a ton for me -- (What to Expect First 100 Days (http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/what-to-expect-when-you-quit-dipping/)
- Hearing everyone go through the same stuff is huge too -- Top 100 Reasons to Quit (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/the-top-100-benefits-of-quitting-dip/) -- that link is for fun but it's crazy how many that you'll think you could've written on there.
- And obviously the biggest tools are all of us... wait that didn't sound right... Lean on your quit group early and often. It will help more than you'll expect.
Thanks for those links! Seems like I'm finding links everywhere I look to little hidden gems. It's appreciated.
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I'm on my fourth day without nicotine. Seems like it may be getting better but it goes in waves. I was a tin a day guy for 35 years and my nic free brain seems like it is going through a very powerful change. I never want to have to go through this again!
badger you are in the February group in the quit groups head in there and post a day 4!!!
Congrats though on being quit, it will come with many struggles and battles but you got this remember we have all been through this, Hydrate lots of water will help, use any alternatives you can to help cravings (seeds, gum,fake,jolly ranchers).
Use this site as a tool and dive in head first and start your journey of KTC excellence, We do one day at time and never anymore. reach out get fellow quitters numbers that way when you have a time you feel you may cave you have instant contact with someone. Everyday is a new chapter and a new way of functioning with out nicotine.
Wake up piss post, thats the motto we live by for posting roll
Congrats on your Quit badger! The ABSOLUTE KEY is remember how much these first days suck. Promise to yourself that you never want to put yourself through this again!
Tons of tools here to help.- Knowing what to expect helped a ton for me -- (What to Expect First 100 Days (http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/what-to-expect-when-you-quit-dipping/)
- Hearing everyone go through the same stuff is huge too -- Top 100 Reasons to Quit (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/the-top-100-benefits-of-quitting-dip/) -- that link is for fun but it's crazy how many that you'll think you could've written on there.
- And obviously the biggest tools are all of us... wait that didn't sound right... Lean on your quit group early and often. It will help more than you'll expect.
Thanks for those links! Seems like I'm finding links everywhere I look to little hidden gems. It's appreciated.
As Jupiter said, he is a tool.
Make friends. We are waging a war here, and we can win. If all goes well, we are the people you will deal with every day for the rest of your life, ODAAT.
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I quit this morning. Been wanting to kick the habit a long time. Been dipping for 20 plus years. Not bad right now but worried about when i get home lol. Ive got this. Got to stay on the move i guess.
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I quit this morning. Been wanting to kick the habit a long time. Been dipping for 20 plus years. Not bad right now but worried about when i get home lol. Ive got this. Got to stay on the move i guess.
Make sure you get your introduction done, and post roll in the appropriate group. I think you'll want Feb 2017. I can't grab links right now.
Get that support going, your roll post is your daily promise to stay quit. Welcome to KTC and glad to quit with you.
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Well... that sucked. Glad to be back up and running.
Thankful for all you fellow quitters. Have a happy and safe Thanksgiving tomorrow folks!
Chewie
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Well... that sucked. Glad to be back up and running.
Thankful for all you fellow quitters. Have a happy and safe Thanksgiving tomorrow folks!
Chewie
Nice work Chewie! Happy Thanksgiving, stay quit y'all!
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Well... that sucked. Glad to be back up and running.
Thankful for all you fellow quitters. Have a happy and safe Thanksgiving tomorrow folks!
Chewie
Nice work Chewie! Happy Thanksgiving, stay quit y'all!
Thanks Chewie for all of your efforts in the past and especially during the recent outage.
Has anyone else noticed that there are extra blank pages in many of the forums? At the top and bottom of every page, are the links to specific page numbers. In the October 2016 group right now it shows:
Pages: [1] [...] [1240] [1241]
Usually, if you click on the last option, it will take you to that page and there is the most recent posts. If you do that right now, you go to that page, but there are no posts there, just the black band describing the thread, and then the list of members viewing that page.
We've been working around it so far, but if the issue isn't wide spread, the folks that can fix it, may not know that something is broken.
Not a complete list but here are the pages I've noticed this issue on:- October 2016
- December 2016
- July 2016
- February 2016
- March 2016
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Well... that sucked. Glad to be back up and running.
Thankful for all you fellow quitters. Have a happy and safe Thanksgiving tomorrow folks!
Chewie
Nice work Chewie! Happy Thanksgiving, stay quit y'all!
Thanks Chewie for all of your efforts in the past and especially during the recent outage.
Has anyone else noticed that there are extra blank pages in many of the forums? At the top and bottom of every page, are the links to specific page numbers. In the October 2016 group right now it shows:
Pages: [1] [...] [1240] [1241]
Usually, if you click on the last option, it will take you to that page and there is the most recent posts. If you do that right now, you go to that page, but there are no posts there, just the black band describing the thread, and then the list of members viewing that page.
We've been working around it so far, but if the issue isn't wide spread, the folks that can fix it, may not know that something is broken.
Not a complete list but here are the pages I've noticed this issue on:- October 2016
- December 2016
- July 2016
- February 2016
- March 2016
Appreciate the kind words... but I honestly didn't do much. I was just communicating with the folks at Zeta.
My guess re: blank pages is that since they essentially needed to rebuild from scrath there were some left over "bits and bytes" (not wanting to get too technical).
I can enter a support ticket to see if they can't clean things up but my guess is that those extra pages will go away once there are more responses to those affected threads.
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I quit this morning. Been wanting to kick the habit a long time. Been dipping for 20 plus years. Not bad right now but worried about when i get home lol. Ive got this. Got to stay on the move i guess.
Make sure you get your introduction done, and post roll in the appropriate group. I think you'll want Feb 2017. I can't grab links right now.
Get that support going, your roll post is your daily promise to stay quit. Welcome to KTC and glad to quit with you.
And it looks like he gave up on us the same day he quit. Hopefully he finds his way one of these days.
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I quit this morning. Been wanting to kick the habit a long time. Been dipping for 20 plus years. Not bad right now but worried about when i get home lol. Ive got this. Got to stay on the move i guess.
Make sure you get your introduction done, and post roll in the appropriate group. I think you'll want Feb 2017. I can't grab links right now.
Get that support going, your roll post is your daily promise to stay quit. Welcome to KTC and glad to quit with you.
And it looks like he gave up on us the same day he quit. Hopefully he finds his way one of these days.
Oh how many times did I start the day with grand resolve only to find myself sitting alone spitting into a cup by evening? Pre KTC! Just posted 331. He'll be back. God's working on him. This is tough tough shit! Life or death stuff. I quit for 7 years and fell back into when I thought I had it licked. Always an addict I am. But, today... a non-using addict! Hoorah!
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Well... that sucked. Glad to be back up and running.
Thankful for all you fellow quitters. Have a happy and safe Thanksgiving tomorrow folks!
Chewie
Nice work Chewie! Happy Thanksgiving, stay quit y'all!
Thanks Chewie for all of your efforts in the past and especially during the recent outage.
Has anyone else noticed that there are extra blank pages in many of the forums? At the top and bottom of every page, are the links to specific page numbers. In the October 2016 group right now it shows:
Pages: [1] [...] [1240] [1241]
Usually, if you click on the last option, it will take you to that page and there is the most recent posts. If you do that right now, you go to that page, but there are no posts there, just the black band describing the thread, and then the list of members viewing that page.
We've been working around it so far, but if the issue isn't wide spread, the folks that can fix it, may not know that something is broken.
Not a complete list but here are the pages I've noticed this issue on:- October 2016
- December 2016
- July 2016
- February 2016
- March 2016
Appreciate the kind words... but I honestly didn't do much. I was just communicating with the folks at Zeta.
My guess re: blank pages is that since they essentially needed to rebuild from scrath there were some left over "bits and bytes" (not wanting to get too technical).
I can enter a support ticket to see if they can't clean things up but my guess is that those extra pages will go away once there are more responses to those affected threads.
The blank page issue has been taken care of (thanks flashman!)
Let us know if you continue to see this pop up.
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2 weeks quit. I've been trolling this site for years and I'm finally doing it. 20 years of cope, can a day, and I never want to go back again. It has ruined my life and has hurt my marriage. I'll never go back. Where's my quit group.
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2 weeks quit. I've been trolling this site for years and I'm finally doing it. 20 years of cope, can a day, and I never want to go back again. It has ruined my life and has hurt my marriage. I'll never go back. Where's my quit group.
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2 weeks quit. I've been trolling this site for years and I'm finally doing it. 20 years of cope, can a day, and I never want to go back again. It has ruined my life and has hurt my marriage. I'll never go back. Where's my quit group.
March 2017 (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30081110/27/)
Welcome chambro, your hatred for nicotine and the slavery you willingly endured for 20 years is great. One word of advice, don't worry about forever. Just win today. Deal with tomorrow when it gets here.
Okay one more piece of advice, get to know the other quitters in your quit group. Really get to know them. If you do it right, these quitters will improve your chances of success one hundred fold.
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Wanted to get this shit out there....
Gov. Brown Signs Bill Banning Smokeless Tobacco Use In State’s Pro Baseball Stadiums – CBS San Francisco
Players, fans, baseball, no dip. Check it out.
Hey KN, I reached out to Charro (sp?) earlier today. Hope he's ready to give it up.
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http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2015/1 ... -stadiums/ (http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2015/10/12/gov-brown-signs-bill-banning-smokeless-tobacco-use-in-states-pro-baseball-stadiums/)
So I guess this is old news.... it was on the radio yesterday for some reason
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Question --
I was reading this blog on KTC, and I'm a little unclear on what this dentist is saying. Is he saying that fake dip will cause cancer just as effectively as the real thing?
http://blog.killthecan.org/2015/04/fake ... s-opinion/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2015/04/fake-dip-one-dentists-opinion/)
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Question --
I was reading this blog on KTC, and I'm a little unclear on what this dentist is saying. Is he saying that fake dip will cause cancer just as effectively as the real thing?
http://blog.killthecan.org/2015/04/fake ... s-opinion/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2015/04/fake-dip-one-dentists-opinion/)
That does appear to be what that one dentist is saying about that one product. However, let's take that with a HUGE grain of salt.
1. Fake doesn't contain addictive chemicals. So you will be able to wean off and stop using fairly quickly. Personally, I haven't used the fake since around day 80. If that had been a nicotine product, I'd still be using it right now.
2. Not all fakes are created equally. Different products use different ingredients to create that "burn" sensation. If your particular product uses something that creates an irritation in the same way as tobacco, then perhaps it is harmful. However, smoky mountain for instance, uses cayenne to create that. That product creates a similar 'burn' but there's no way it's as harmful as the chemicals used in tobacco.
3. This reaction seems to be based on gut reaction rather than any kind of scientific process. For this statement to be in any way qualified, it would need to be backed up by research. Honestly, this seems like an off-hand general answer rather than an official scientific opinion.
Frankly his statement seems rather irresponsible. It needs to be qualified across several fronts and then backed up with research.
In terms of how it should affect you, it shouldn't. Do you want to be quit free or addicted a slave? If I was diagnosed with cancer tomorrow, I'd still choose to spend the rest of my life free. That has to be your mindset.
I applaud you for seeking out information and trying to learn as much as possible. You'll find a lot of contradictory stuff out there. Take it in stride and keep your focus. Stay quit today and then do it again tomorrow.
Edit: Also superb screen name and avatar. There's a special place in Hell for the HBO exec that pulled the plug on Deadwood.
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My name is zack I quit dipping 1 week ago I had a bump come up in my mouth what caused me to quit went to the dentist got a cancer scan everything came back great no cancer haven't had one since but after getting no mouth cancer news I thought I had throat cancer went got a throats ultra sound came back normal throats felt like it was closing up and I really thought I had it but they said I didn't I've been scared for 2 weeks even after I got the news of no cancer I'm still worrying everyday now I feel like I'm losing weight and I eating all the time is this normal
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My name is zack I quit dipping 1 week ago I had a bump come up in my mouth what caused me to quit went to the dentist got a cancer scan everything came back great no cancer haven't had one since but after getting no mouth cancer news I thought I had throat cancer went got a throats ultra sound came back normal throats felt like it was closing up and I really thought I had it but they said I didn't I've been scared for 2 weeks even after I got the news of no cancer I'm still worrying everyday now I feel like I'm losing weight and I eating all the time is this normal
It's definitely normal to freak out when you have a health scare. If the doctor said that you don't have cancer, then you should be in the clear.
Using dip and quitting dip will definitely do some crazy stuff to your body. Phantom pain, sore throat, panic over health - all of these are very normal during your quit.
The most important is to make sure you are committed to quitting, even after this health crisis passes. I've been in your shoes - panic about a weird white patch on my lip, check with the dentist, quit for a few days out of fear. Then as soon as I get the all clear and the panic subsides, I'm right back using just as heavy as before.
The important thing is to get to the point where you want to be quit regardless of your health situation. You should go check out the March Quit group and start posting roll. Roll is for people who are serious about quitting and make the promise to stay quit for today, every day.
Reach out if I can help in any way
-pky - I've been quit every day for 218 days.
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Question --
I was reading this blog on KTC, and I'm a little unclear on what this dentist is saying. Is he saying that fake dip will cause cancer just as effectively as the real thing?
http://blog.killthecan.org/2015/04/fake ... s-opinion/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2015/04/fake-dip-one-dentists-opinion/)
That does appear to be what that one dentist is saying about that one product. However, let's take that with a HUGE grain of salt.
1. Fake doesn't contain addictive chemicals. So you will be able to wean off and stop using fairly quickly. Personally, I haven't used the fake since around day 80. If that had been a nicotine product, I'd still be using it right now.
2. Not all fakes are created equally. Different products use different ingredients to create that "burn" sensation. If your particular product uses something that creates an irritation in the same way as tobacco, then perhaps it is harmful. However, smoky mountain for instance, uses cayenne to create that. That product creates a similar 'burn' but there's no way it's as harmful as the chemicals used in tobacco.
3. This reaction seems to be based on gut reaction rather than any kind of scientific process. For this statement to be in any way qualified, it would need to be backed up by research. Honestly, this seems like an off-hand general answer rather than an official scientific opinion.
Frankly his statement seems rather irresponsible. It needs to be qualified across several fronts and then backed up with research.
In terms of how it should affect you, it shouldn't. Do you want to be quit free or addicted a slave? If I was diagnosed with cancer tomorrow, I'd still choose to spend the rest of my life free. That has to be your mindset.
I applaud you for seeking out information and trying to learn as much as possible. You'll find a lot of contradictory stuff out there. Take it in stride and keep your focus. Stay quit today and then do it again tomorrow.
Edit: Also superb screen name and avatar. There's a special place in Hell for the HBO exec that pulled the plug on Deadwood.
Thanks for responding. This issue gives me a bit of pause, but it's not going to affect my quit. Nothing interferes with my quit.
EDIT: I too was really pissed when Deadwood got the boot. So many loose ends.
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Hey all,
First day quitter here. I've been chewing a can a day for about 7 years, never quit for more than a week or two.
What I wanted to ask is, did any of you heavy dippers experience pain in your ears? Like an occasional mild, dull ache/pressure? Cause I have that.
It's irregular but it's definitely linked to chewing, because when ever I would stop for a day or two it would go away. I think it's linked to the throat irritation that chew causes.
Same thing with my jaw sometimes. Whenever I would open my mouth really wide my jaw would pop, nothing too serious, kinda like popping a knuckle. It was strange.
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Hey all,
First day quitter here. I've been chewing a can a day for about 7 years, never quit for more than a week or two.
What I wanted to ask is, did any of you heavy dippers experience pain in your ears? Like an occasional mild, dull ache/pressure? Cause I have that.
It's irregular but it's definitely linked to chewing, because when ever I would stop for a day or two it would go away. I think it's linked to the throat irritation that chew causes.
Same thing with my jaw sometimes. Whenever I would open my mouth really wide my jaw would pop, nothing too serious, kinda like popping a knuckle. It was strange.
Welcome glad to see you found your quit group!
I haven't experienced that specifically, but nothing surprises me. People report all sorts of crazy physical symptoms. Your brain is currently setting off all sorts of alarm bells because you're withholding a chemical that it has forgotten how to operate without. The withdrawal symptoms that you're going to experience over the next days/ weeks/ months represent the healing process that your brain will have to go through.
I'm not going to sugarcoat it, it's going to suck. At times it's going to suck a lot. But I will promise you this: It will not kill you and it will get better.
Whatever weird physical, mental and emotional instabilities manifest over the next little while, I promise you that you can get through it if you are willing to throw yourself into this quit.
Also, not to nitpick, but you've never quit for a week or two. You've stopped for a week or two. Quit is quit. Quit is a mindset and it lasts, although you have to work at it every single day. This site is for those who are ready to do that.
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Hey all,
First day quitter here. I've been chewing a can a day for about 7 years, never quit for more than a week or two.
What I wanted to ask is, did any of you heavy dippers experience pain in your ears? Like an occasional mild, dull ache/pressure? Cause I have that.
It's irregular but it's definitely linked to chewing, because when ever I would stop for a day or two it would go away. I think it's linked to the throat irritation that chew causes.
Same thing with my jaw sometimes. Whenever I would open my mouth really wide my jaw would pop, nothing too serious, kinda like popping a knuckle. It was strange.
Welcome glad to see you found your quit group!
I haven't experienced that specifically, but nothing surprises me. People report all sorts of crazy physical symptoms. Your brain is currently setting off all sorts of alarm bells because you're withholding a chemical that it has forgotten how to operate without. The withdrawal symptoms that you're going to experience over the next days/ weeks/ months represent the healing process that your brain will have to go through.
I'm not going to sugarcoat it, it's going to suck. At times it's going to suck a lot. But I will promise you this: It will not kill you and it will get better.
Whatever weird physical, mental and emotional instabilities manifest over the next little while, I promise you that you can get through it if you are willing to throw yourself into this quit.
Also, not to nitpick, but you've never quit for a week or two. You've stopped for a week or two. Quit is quit. Quit is a mindset and it lasts, although you have to work at it every single day. This site is for those who are ready to do that.
Welcome, PKY is 100% on. Different for everyone. I had neck pain into 200 days. Had me convinced I had some sort of tumor... Jaw pain, throbbing, teeth pain, yes.. - even today at 480+ days.
As said, it all does get better.
This is more likely than not just another in the long line of tricky Nicotine games, trying to get you to drop your guard and fill your lip again.
Dont fall for it.
I experienced my toughest most challenging days of being quit at 100-150 or so. Post HOF let down, CONVINCED i had it licked. Convinced I had beat the addiction. Was considering leaving KTC.
I can tell you if I did I'd be right back where I was dipping again. I then recommitted myself to my quit, helping newbies, and posting support in all months I could.
PKY is also right on, this will be the hardest thing you have ever done. But also the most important thing you have ever done for yourself. And it is accomplished one day at a time. Post roll in your group, EVERY DAY. Get to know those guys.
Trust us. THis shit works.
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Hey y'all. I'm new to the site, lurker here a little while to inspire me to quit. I'm a short term user, picked up the habit in March. I never really felt the need to quit until I learned my best friend's uncle had developed esophagus cancer from chew. I was up to using a can every 4/5 days. It still took me a couple weeks, but I finally quit December 4, so it's been about a week and a half. One day I was dipping and I just was so anxious about the healthy risks that I couldn't enjoy it all. Threw away my can right away and moved on with life. I realized that I'm young (almost 19 years old) and I was being very dumb. Besides the first three days of hardcore craving, my quit has great so far. I wanted to join this site to stay vigilant.
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Hey y'all. I'm new to the site, lurker here a little while to inspire me to quit. I'm a short term user, picked up the habit in March. I never really felt the need to quit until I learned my best friend's uncle had developed esophagus cancer from chew. I was up to using a can every 4/5 days. It still took me a couple weeks, but I finally quit December 4, so it's been about a week and a half. One day I was dipping and I just was so anxious about the healthy risks that I couldn't enjoy it all. Threw away my can right away and moved on with life. I realized that I'm young (almost 19 years old) and I was being very dumb. Besides the first three days of hardcore craving, my quit has great so far. I wanted to join this site to stay vigilant.
Great man! I see you posted too. Good stuff. Now get active and spread some of that quit magic amongst that huge March group.
Love seeing new quit! Own it. Be a leader in your group.
PM me if you need anything. Nice job man!
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Hey y'all. I'm new to the site, lurker here a little while to inspire me to quit. I'm a short term user, picked up the habit in March. I never really felt the need to quit until I learned my best friend's uncle had developed esophagus cancer from chew. I was up to using a can every 4/5 days. It still took me a couple weeks, but I finally quit December 4, so it's been about a week and a half. One day I was dipping and I just was so anxious about the healthy risks that I couldn't enjoy it all. Threw away my can right away and moved on with life. I realized that I'm young (almost 19 years old) and I was being very dumb. Besides the first three days of hardcore craving, my quit has great so far. I wanted to join this site to stay vigilant.
Great man! I see you posted too. Good stuff. Now get active and spread some of that quit magic amongst that huge March group.
Love seeing new quit! Own it. Be a leader in your group.
PM me if you need anything. Nice job man!
By the way... I used a can every 5-7 days for 25 years. That was one thing that kept me from admitting I was addicted. 'Oh I only chew 1 can a week.. these other guys are doing 2 cans a day'
KTC taught me that doesn't matter. I'm an addict,always will be. But as you've probably read on here: ADDICT- Yes. SLAVE- No more
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Hey y'all. I'm new to the site, lurker here a little while to inspire me to quit. I'm a short term user, picked up the habit in March. I never really felt the need to quit until I learned my best friend's uncle had developed esophagus cancer from chew. I was up to using a can every 4/5 days. It still took me a couple weeks, but I finally quit December 4, so it's been about a week and a half. One day I was dipping and I just was so anxious about the healthy risks that I couldn't enjoy it all. Threw away my can right away and moved on with life. I realized that I'm young (almost 19 years old) and I was being very dumb. Besides the first three days of hardcore craving, my quit has great so far. I wanted to join this site to stay vigilant.
Great man! I see you posted too. Good stuff. Now get active and spread some of that quit magic amongst that huge March group.
Love seeing new quit! Own it. Be a leader in your group.
PM me if you need anything. Nice job man!
By the way... I used a can every 5-7 days for 25 years. That was one thing that kept me from admitting I was addicted. 'Oh I only chew 1 can a week.. these other guys are doing 2 cans a day'
KTC taught me that doesn't matter. I'm an addict,always will be. But as you've probably read on here: ADDICT- Yes. SLAVE- No more
Me too. Addict? Most definitely. User? Nope. 524 days clean. It's possible. Do it now before that "cancer scare" or your wife gives you an ultimatum. I PROMISE that's coming if you don't take this seriously.
Glad to have you Ravens.
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One thing about this site that bugs me is that lots of folks seem to have a "stay in your lane" mentality. By that I mean many just post roll in their own quit group. I'd suggest reading and being involved in the groups ahead and behind. There is great advice everywhere here. Quitting takes work, and often I read a post from another quit group or an introduction thread that reinvigorates my quit. I'm sure the "stay in your lane" people probably won't read this but I just wanted to post this anyway. ;)
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To those that celebrate, a very Merry Christmas!
So very proud to be quit with you today.
Chewie
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Happy December 27th to you all. It's 2142 on the left coast and I dumped out my Copenhagen in the trash can after reading some information on this site. I've done an introduction post. But just thought I'd tell you all that between now and the next 30 or so minutes before I go to bed I will not go to the store for another can and will go to bed dip free.
Glad to have found a quit group. Love it.
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Happy December 27th to you all. It's 2142 on the left coast and I dumped out my Copenhagen in the trash can after reading some information on this site. I've done an introduction post. But just thought I'd tell you all that between now and the next 30 or so minutes before I go to bed I will not go to the store for another can and will go to bed dip free.
Glad to have found a quit group. Love it.
attaboy! Get pissed bro. Get committed, get angry at nicotine. Stay close to KTC, join the LIVE CHAT, seems to help for lots of people. Personally it wasnt my thing, but I spent (and still spend) as much time on KTC as I can reading, helping newbies get started. Reach out to me via PM if you need anything.
Get active in your group. Be a leader.
Glad to quit with you today bro! JB - day 500 thanks to KTC
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One thing about this site that bugs me is that lots of folks seem to have a "stay in your lane" mentality. By that I mean many just post roll in their own quit group. I'd suggest reading and being involved in the groups ahead and behind. There is great advice everywhere here. Quitting takes work, and often I read a post from another quit group or an introduction thread that reinvigorates my quit. I'm sure the "stay in your lane" people probably won't read this but I just wanted to post this anyway. ;)
there is no adventure to staying in your own lane...... plus its boring... B)B
I wouldn't have ever found this gem if I had stayed tucked comfortably within the confines of the League of Extraordinary Quitters (Jan '17)
single/?p=410247t=1004321 (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=410247&t=1004321)
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One thing about this site that bugs me is that lots of folks seem to have a "stay in your lane" mentality. By that I mean many just post roll in their own quit group. I'd suggest reading and being involved in the groups ahead and behind. There is great advice everywhere here. Quitting takes work, and often I read a post from another quit group or an introduction thread that reinvigorates my quit. I'm sure the "stay in your lane" people probably won't read this but I just wanted to post this anyway. ;)
there is no adventure to staying in your own lane...... plus its boring... B)B
I wouldn't have ever found this gem if I had stayed tucked comfortably within the confines of the League of Extraordinary Quitters (Jan '17)
single/?p=410247t=1004321 (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=410247&t=1004321)
Great post/quote from a great quitter!
I have no idea who is promoting that people stay in their own groups...If someone is, they could not be more wrong.
Branch out. Learn from the people who went ahead of you, help the people coming up behind you.
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I know I don't post much, but I do want to post this.
I am very appreciative of the assistance you have given me since I joined up. Posting roll is truly necessary for me in maintaining not just my quit, but for my new nicotine-free life.
As I move into 2017 - my first calendar year since 1989 with no nicotine at all, the Deity willing - I hope you will be there for me. I promise to do my very best to be there for you when I become ready to take on that role.
Peace and Abundant Blessings,
Frobozz
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Is there a quit group for people who's date will be in April 2017? I wrote that tomorrow will be my quit day, but I'm still going strong today, so it looks like my quit day is today. I'm not really sure how to sign up for it....this is my first post, and I just joined a half hour ago. Thanks for any help. Damn my head hurts.
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Is there a quit group for people who's date will be in April 2017? I wrote that tomorrow will be my quit day, but I'm still going strong today, so it looks like my quit day is today. I'm not really sure how to sign up for it....this is my first post, and I just joined a half hour ago. Thanks for any help. Damn my head hurts.
Nice work getting started. Sent you a email if you need help!!