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Community => General Discussion => Topic started by: chewie on January 01, 2010, 03:09:00 PM
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Happy New Year Quitters!
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There's a whole slew of new Hall Of Fame speeches... that are AWESOME! Go check em out!
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There's a whole slew of new Hall Of Fame speeches... that are AWESOME! Go check em out!
Agreed. Glad to be quit with these guys.
I also enjoyed this (http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=289).
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I also enjoyed this (http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=289).
Chewie is the man.
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Quittin's Been Going On For A Long Time - Looks Like This Guy Had It All Figured Out
.....scroll down to the step by step part, or read it all.
THE TOBACCO HABIT; Its Evils and Its Cure © 1872
The Evils of The Tobacco Habit
and
The Methods for Its Cure Found to be Highly
Successful if Followed Consistently,
Reinforced by a Sincere Desire
To Be Free From It
By Paschal Beverly Randolph 1825-1875
Published by
Philosophical Publishing Company
Beverly Hall, Quakertown, Pa.
Pachal Beverly Randolph, M.D.
Paschal Beverly Randolph, Physician, Philosopher, world traveller, Supreme Grand Master of the Fraternitas Rose Crucis; Hierarch of Eulis and the Ansaireh, member of L'Ordre du Lis of France; the Double Eagle of Prussia, and Order of the Rose of England, was born in the city of New York, October 8, 1825.
Foreword
When in 1872, eighty-four years ago, Dr. P.B. Randolph, Supreme Grand Master of the Rosicrucian Fraternity in America first published his book SOUL, THE SOUL WORLD he included in it, among other subjects, his treatise on the tobacco habit.
At that period little thought had been given to tobacco and the harm that might result from it and there naturally was a great deal of scoffing, even among the medical profession, at his tirade against it.
Times have changed since then. More and ever more physicians who are giving thought to, and investigation the effects of the tobacco habit, are being forced to agree with much that Dr. Randolph then said and published. Moreover, so certain are many medical specialists that it is cause of numerous diseases that they will not accept as patients those with serious afflictions as long as they are victims of the habit in any form.
So great has become the demand for Dr. Randolph's treatise that the Philosophical Publishing Company has agreed to issue it in the present Pamphlet form and we trust that the instructions contained herein will be of help to many who seek freedom from the habit.
R. Swinburne Clymer
The Tobacco Evil
After this book - Soul World - was all in type, as I sat one night in my office, deploring my loneliness, a vision of the three great curses of the Christian and Islamic world passed before the eyes of my Soul: Lust, Rum and Tobacco! Bad, Worse and Worst - in some sense, because the last engenders, fosters and strengthens the two first. I saw, filing along the roads of life, such a vast army of bounden slaves to all three tyrants, such an enormous multitude of victims to the grossest of all appetites, that I shuddered at the awful sight. All these countless myriads of immortal human beings were insane! - insane - because the willing and abject slaves of a power which they all know and can safely swear, is daily injuring them - Soul, Mind, Body and Morals:
"Men know the Right, and well approve it too;
they know the Wrong, and yet the wrong pursue."
-And I asked my Soul: "Can nothing be done to break these gyves? Is there no word of council thou canst give mankind before their flight to -
"The Lands beyond the swelling flood, -
The kingdoms o'er the sea,"
to assist it in dethroning this tobacco king, - this usurper of all human prerogatives, this conscienceless slayer of consciences, this wholesale poisoner of unborn babies, this has loudly crowed over his millions of victims! - this maker of drunkards, this seducer of female innocence, this builder and peopler of brothels, this insidious, silent, wily and successful tempter to the bad; this breaker-down of human honor, stifler of emotion, scourge of man, contemner of God, laugher at religion, mocker at human agony, scoffer at all things pure and holy, reviler of the cross and what it symbolizes; - this snake, whose coils, once wound round a man, prove cord stronger than ten billion hempen cables! Cannot something be said for man, and against the subtle fiend? There can, there shall, even if these be the last lines ever written by thy hand upon the green soil of this goodly but sadly abused earth of God's - this young nursery of human souls!"
Thus it was suggested to me that I add a paper, not of but on tobacco, which is probably one of the greatest curses that ever afflicted human kind, - for its use is not wholly confined to the sterner sex, but it also curses gentle woman, not only obliquely but directly, for beside the simple cigarette between the coral lips of Spanish dame and the haut tonesse of our own proud land, many a wiff of a "good cigar," polished mere sham, briar wood and democratic clay dudheen is taken by thousands of women who are not suspected of such habits, but who keep a pipe hidden away where they know - and they only.
Snuff-taking and snuff-dipping is a not uncommon habit with women whom troubles assail, and even the habit of chewing is not a strange one to many a mother and sister in this our Yankee Israel.
Tobacco appetites are born with us, for the reason that one of both our parents' bodies, and Souls too, are, to a greater of less extent saturated with the weed, which saturation having gone on from generation to generation through, and in, and by generation, the natural and inevitable consequence is just what might be expected, - we take to the weed as ducks do to water, - with most astonishing ease and avidity, and speedily become so saturated by it in turn that we have no difficulty whatever in handing down the appetite for it to the next generation, - of course - with an increment of force and power greater and intenser from cumulative energy.
The Americans chew, smoke and snuff; while other people are content generally to kill themselves with tobacco by a slower process, - and either snuff or smoke themselves away.
It is no part of my intention here to enter into a long discussion of the effects of the weed upon the bodies, spirits, intellects, morals or Souls of those of us who us it, but to give hope and courage, and point out the road of deliverance to whose who have of there own free will - (? sic) by stress or early bad example, or by inherited bias, been bound hand and foot, Soul and body, by the stinking, yet charming demon. Says a high authority: "He who doth not smoke hath either known no great griefs, or refuseth himself the softest consolation, next to that which comes from heaven. ‘What, softer than woman?' whispers the young reader. Young reader, woman teases as well as consoles. Woman makes half the sorrows which she boasts the privilege to soothe. Woman consoles us, it is true, while we are young and handsome; when we are old and ugly, woman snubs and scolds us. On the whole, then woman in this scale, the weed in that, Jupiter, hang out thy balance, and weigh them both; and if tho give the preference to the woman, all I can say is, the next time Juno ruffles thee - O Jupiter! try the weed." And yet the man - Bulwer - who wrote those very words would, I doubt not, give half his income to be well rid of his "True consoler," for notwithstanding its admitted charm, it is incontestably a grievous curse to whoever uses it in any way, shape or manner; there's not the slightest doubt about the matter; hence whatever will effectually annul the appetite must be hailed with joy by millions who desire to break their chains and be forever free. For such then I wrote additional section to one of my works "THE SOUL-WORLD and the WORLD OF SOULS," and also shall publish it in pamphlet form for the benefit of such as may not have or procure the larger work.
Wherever tobacco is used there's always trouble in that family, with that man, that woman, this husband, the other wife, and among all, and with whomsoever uses it, - be they male or female, old or young; yet physiologists nor doctors can tell you the reason why. If a man chews tobacco, - I don't care if he is five times converted, or a minister of the gospel ten times over, - that man won't do to tie to as husband or lover! Why? Because tobacco, of all other things on earth, - wine and whiskey not excepted, - totally and fully antagonizes the love element of the human Soul, and I defy the whole wide world to produce me a man old or young, rich or poor, republican, banker or democratic mechanic, who uses tobacco, and is healthy in either liver, kidneys, heart, bladder or any organ of the pelvic viscera! It cannot be done! The man does not live on earth who - not being wholly robbed of all the elements of a genuine physical manhood - is sound either physically, mentally or morally, in the affectional departments of human nature! Why? Is it because of the nicotine's poison, - its chemical effect upon the body? No, not altogether; but is because of the fact that tobacco, above all other plants on earth except two - opium and hemp - possesses the greatest volume of a peculiar, an almost nameless magnetic element. Nicotine, or Narcotine are essentially chemical in their effects; but the quality in tobacco of which I write, is wholly dynamic, Magnetic, ethereal; for while the chemical poison of the weed lays hold on the human stomach and nerves, this other thing attacks and defeats the very Soul itself, - actually so marked itself upon the very foundation structure of human nature as to make a dead man rap out his wish to come back to earth for a smoke or a chew of the king of all weeds, tobacco.
The rhymester who wrote: -
"Tobacco is an Indian weed:
It was the Devil who sowed the seed"-
was not far from right, if we are to judge by its effects upon almost three-fifths of the entire human race. Deprive an old smoker of his pipe, and the old Nick is to pay in that particular locality right straight off. Persons who use the weed perspire when and where others do not. For a time it sharpens the intellect; after a while it permanently dulls them. Another appalling fact: an excessive smoker's brain, liver and intestines are always irritated, if not ulcerated. Their hearts enlarge, thicken and ossify. Nine times in ten they die of either paralysis, heart-disease or apoplexy; and a truly healthy child was never yet sired by a tobacco-saturated father; never will be; never can be; for, in the precise degree to which he yields to his narcotic master, just so far is his WILL paralyzed, - and when a man's will grows shreddy there's not much man about him: his brain is clouded; his solids and fluids deteriorate, and the man is not, cannot be, wholly himself, and master of every moral situation; and unless he is, that man is so far neurotic, or unsound - which is the same thing; hence, if the parent be so, how can the child be otherwise?
For tobacco men will demean themselves and do things utterly degrading, - put themselves on a level with their inferiors, and give and accept what would turn the stomach of a dog.
Tobacco begets a chronic inflammation of both the mucous and serous surfaces of the digestive and assimilative viscera; occasions dull ulcers in the stomach, - for no habitual tobacco-smoker or chewer in earth, but who is at times horribly dyspeptic, and these dyspepsias are far more frequently than is suspected, occasioned by either ulcers in one of the two stomachs, - considering the duodenum as one, - or else by cancers at, sometimes the cardiac, but more often at the pyloric orifice, - the mouth of the stomach emptying into the second organ of the digestive economy.
Tobacco attacks the generative system of whoever uses it, and under its inflaming effects boys often go to ruin, and men to the brothels of the land! Sorry to say it, but it is Heaven's truth, and must be said by someone!
Tobacco and Virtue are incompatibles! and a man can no more be cool and calm and true - affectionately - with his body soaked in tobacco-juice, or his brains fumigated with smoke, than a ring- tailed monkey can lecture upon the rise and fall of empires!
I will: And let me say in reference to the myriad so-called "Tobacco antidotes," - they are mostly deliberate, heartless frauds, swindles, cheats! gotten up to make money for their sellers and fools of the buyers. Do not touch them. There are several persons in the land who flood the markets with what they call tobacco antidotes, which antidotes are known to be varied compounds of ginseng, gentian, cohosh, black-alder bark, wild cherry, lemon-peel, and, to ensure the effect required, are duly tempered with a material which mostly abounds in fowl pens! the whole being seasoned with camomile flowers and various spices by way of additional filip.
From time immemorial lemon-rind and camomile flowers have been used as break-off substitutes for tobacco, also as chewing and smoking material, and, in isolated cases, with undoubted success, albeit the majority who resort to them alone, incontestably make bad work of it and most disastrously fail.
During the last thirty years hundreds of so-called "Magnetists" have offered their services to cure the habit; but their success was not great by any means, mainly for the reason that their subjects, when from under their personal influence, had nothing to sustain them in their new-formed resolution, - and the disease - for tobacco-using is such - speedily regained its diabolic mastery over them.
These adventurous quacks wax rich in their trade; but fail to cure, - which is not to be wondered at, seeing that they treat the disease as wholly chemical, whereas in fact it is not merely a chemical, but a social, mental and moral disease as well; and to expect to cure a victim of the habit without bringing his will and moral forces into active play during the chemical process of cure, is to look for sunsets in the east; for a man may chew a mountain of lemon-peel, gentian, camomile, cohosh and pumpkin-seeds, with a hennery thrown in, - or up! and yet be no better off unless moral means are used as well, - for after all the best and quickest and surest way to be cured is to say and mean, good-bye, tobacco! - and stick to it for twenty-one days, and the thing is done; but as only a few can do this I lay down the following efficacious and infallible method of cure, under seven heads; and First, Sassafras is the natural antagone of tobacco. Keep a handful of the bark of the root in the pocket, and occasionally chew a bit thereof. It may also be cut up and smoked for a while, during the time that the tobacco essence (nicotine) is being eliminated from the system, - which process occupies three periods of twenty-one full days each, during the first term of which the liver, stomach and intestines become mainly discharged of the tobacco element. The patient suffers some, but not greatly, during this first three weeks. During the second three weeks the poison leaves the kidneys, bladder, muscles, spleen and intestines, and the patient suffers more.
In the third period the nerves, genital system, and brain and - parting after long companionship is pretty hard business, consequently the temptation to have another smoke - "just one," or "a little bit of a chew, only a little one!" is considerably strong - if not more so, but when a man has reached his fiftieth day of abstention, and then falls back, he is no man - only a weakling - that's all.
Secondly: Keep the skin and teeth well cleansed, for when once the tobacco essence gets started outwards it keeps coming till there is no more left to venture forth hence frequent ablutions are absolutely necessary in order that the foetid ichor may readily escape.
Thirdly: A man should positively avoid hot drinks, - tea, coffee, etc.; and also all pies, cakes sweets, oysters, spices, during the process.
Fourth: He should use no fats, but may eat pickles, suck lemons, beef, salt fish and meat to his stomach's content.
Fifth: He should frequently rinse the mouth in cold water., Do it whenever the longing for tobacco comes rather too strongly for comfort and ease. It will soon subside and constantly grow weaker. On no account either taste, touch or smell tobacco if possible to avoid it.
Six: EXERT THE WILL STRONGLY against the habit. As much as possible avoid frequenting places where it is used, or the society of such as are slaves to it.
Seventh, and lastly: Procure a two-ounce vial, and into it put half an ounce each of tincture cinnamon, sassafras; gelsemium one-eighth of an ounce, and of barosma half an ounce; fill up with sugar. Keep the vial in the pocket, and whenever the tobacco-agony occurs, wet the finger with the solution, and rub it over the teeth and gums. Observe all these directions faithfully, and you will soon triumph over one of the most bitter and vindictive foes that ever yet assaulted human kind.
FINAL NOTE: To sustain the system during the process of the elimination of the poison Nicotine, it is desirable to take regularly Vitamin C Complex derived from Rose Hips and Orange and Lemon. __Dr. R.S. Clymer.
Many of those who read this booklet and have an earnest desire to discontinue the tobacco habit by following the instructions given, might prefer to frequently take orally a pinch of the roots and barks finely ground and well mixed, obtainable from almost any Botanical Gardens, instead of the tinctures of Cinnamam (Cinnamon); Laurus Sassafras (Sassafras); Gelsemium (Gelsemium); and Barosma (Buchu).
If Gelsemium is unobtainable, Passiflora Incarnata (Passion Flower) may be substituted, using twice as much as of the Gelsemium.
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Buncha Mumbo-Jumbo, but there's some good shit in there too... _
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"Six: EXERT THE WILL STRONGLY against the habit. As much as possible avoid frequenting places where it is used, or the society of such as are slaves to it."
This is a good idea.
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"Nicotine, or Narcotine are essentially chemical in their effects; but the quality in tobacco of which I write, is wholly dynamic, Magnetic, ethereal; for while the chemical poison of the weed lays hold on the human stomach and nerves, this other thing attacks and defeats the very Soul itself, - actually so marked itself upon the very foundation structure of human nature as to make a dead man rap out his wish to come back to earth for a smoke or a chew of the king of all weeds, tobacco."
Werd...
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"For tobacco, men will demean themselves and do things utterly degrading, - put themselves on a level with their inferiors, and give and accept what would turn the stomach of a dog."
So true...
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"In the third period the nerves, genital system, and brain and - parting after long companionship is pretty hard business, consequently the temptation to have another smoke - "just one," or "a little bit of a chew, only a little one!" is considerably strong - if not more so, but when a man has reached his fiftieth day of abstention, and then falls back, he is no man - only a weakling - that's all."
Damn Straight.
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...another sobering thought:
"and a truly healthy child was never yet sired by a tobacco-saturated father; never will be; never can be; for, in the precise degree to which he yields to his narcotic master, just so far is his WILL paralyzed, - and when a man's will grows shreddy there's not much man about him: his brain is clouded; his solids and fluids deteriorate, and the man is not, cannot be, wholly himself"
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New blog post: Thank You For A Great 2009!
http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=301 (http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=301)
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Things That You CAN Indeed Do Without Dip
Feel free to add
Cut the grass
Drink with the boys
Play poker
Drive to work
etc.
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Things That You CAN Indeed Do Without Dip
Feel free to add
Cut the grass
Drink with the boys
Play poker
Drive to work
etc.
Shovel Snow
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Things That You CAN Indeed Do Without Dip
Feel free to add
Cut the grass
Drink with the boys
Play poker
Drive to work
etc.
Shovel Snow
Hunt
Fish
Watch TV
Play Xbox
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Things That You CAN Indeed Do Without Dip
Feel free to add
Cut the grass
Drink with the boys
Play poker
Drive to work
etc.
Shovel Snow
Hunt
Fish
Watch TV
Play Xbox
Dropping a deuce
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Things That You CAN Indeed Do Without Dip
Feel free to add
Cut the grass
Drink with the boys
Play poker
Drive to work
etc.
Shovel Snow
Hunt
Fish
Watch TV
Play Xbox
Dropping a deuce
Do Your Job; or Not Do You Job (be present at work)
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Things That You CAN Indeed Do Without Dip
Feel free to add
Cut the grass
Drink with the boys
Play poker
Drive to work
etc.
Shovel Snow
Hunt
Fish
Watch TV
Play Xbox
Dropping a deuce
Do Your Job; or Not Do You Job (be present at work)
walk the dog
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Things That You CAN Indeed Do Without Dip
Feel free to add
Cut the grass
Drink with the boys
Play poker
Drive to work
etc.
Shovel Snow
Hunt
Fish
Watch TV
Play Xbox
Dropping a deuce
Do Your Job; or Not Do You Job (be present at work)
walk the dog
Things That You CAN Indeed Do Without Dip
Feel free to add
Cut the grass
Drink with the boys
Play poker
Drive to work
etc.
Shovel Snow
Hunt
Fish
Day 1 !!! Just quit chewing this is going to be a rough day. I decided to stop killing myself everyday!! I'm 34 and have been dipping scince I was 16.
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Day 1 !!! Just quit chewing this is going to be a rough day. I decided to stop killing myself everyday!! I'm 34 and have been dipping scince I 16.
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Day 1 !!! Just quit chewing this is going to be a rough day. I decided to stop killing myself everyday!! I'm 34 and have been dipping scince I 16.
Excellent, head over to April 2010 sign-in
mean time - drink plenty of water or orange juice. It'll help flush you out,and keep the headaches down. I used candy as a replacement, gobstoppers jaw-breakers, small, tasty, and the sugar helped keep my mood level enough.......... Welcome to the Suck.. hang on for three little'ole days and the nicotine will be out of your system, the rest is just a mind game......... YOU CAN DO THIS!!!
Any problems, head over to chat or send someone a pm, We'll get you through
Welcome Dmitchell!
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New blog post: 2009 Smokeless Spit Tobacco Summit Presentations Available
http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=305 (http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=305)
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Things That You CAN Indeed Do Without Dip
Feel free to add
Cut the grass
Drink with the boys
Play poker
Drive to work
etc.
Shovel Snow
Hunt
Fish
Watch TV
Play Xbox
Dropping a deuce
Do Your Job; or Not Do You Job (be present at work)
walk the dog
from the stuff I heard in the chat room, eat pussy, needs to be on here
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"Nicotine, or Narcotine are essentially chemical in their effects; but the quality in tobacco of which I write, is wholly dynamic, Magnetic, ethereal; for while the chemical poison of the weed lays hold on the human stomach and nerves, this other thing attacks and defeats the very Soul itself, - actually so marked itself upon the very foundation structure of human nature as to make a dead man rap out his wish to come back to earth for a smoke or a chew of the king of all weeds, tobacco."
Werd...
dmitchell- made it through day 2 of dip free!! It was a rough nite!!
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"Nicotine, or Narcotine are essentially chemical in their effects; but the quality in tobacco of which I write, is wholly dynamic, Magnetic, ethereal; for while the chemical poison of the weed lays hold on the human stomach and nerves, this other thing attacks and defeats the very Soul itself, - actually so marked itself upon the very foundation structure of human nature as to make a dead man rap out his wish to come back to earth for a smoke or a chew of the king of all weeds, tobacco."
Werd...
dmitchell- made it through day 2 of dip free!! It was a rough nite!!
Bravo my friend! One more day and the nicotine will be out of your system for good!
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Dmitchell- Day 3-another day gone, I'm on my way!!
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Dmitchell- Day 3-another day gone, I'm on my way!!
As the kids say... boo ya.
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Dmitchell- Day 3-another day gone, I'm on my way!!
Kaherrera- 1 day quit !!!
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Dmitchell-
Congrads on one day quit!! Im on day 6. The first couple are rough than it gets easier..keep it up!!
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ON DAY 8 OF QUIT.
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ON DAY 8 OF QUIT.
Congrats! Welcome to the site... head on over to April 2010 and introduce yourself to your quit group: index.php?showtopic=2920 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=2920)
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ON DAY 8 OF QUIT.
feels good saving all that money!!
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New to board and on day 6 of being dip free! I have chewed for 20+ years and just decided I did not need it any more.
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New blog post: Enrollment Now Open for Tobacco Chewers and Dippers Nationwide
http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=308 (http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=308)
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Newbie to the board,,, Day 2 on the quit, feel like i've damn near gone blind and brain is has turned to shit pudding. Yippie!!! Bought a ton of Hooch fake stuff to get me through.. Hope there's plenty of encouragement on here.
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Newbie to the board,,, Day 2 on the quit, feel like i've damn near gone blind and brain is has turned to shit pudding. Yippie!!! Bought a ton of Hooch fake stuff to get me through.. Hope there's plenty of encouragement on here.
go over to the quit groups and post up in the April 2010 group
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Newbie to the board,,, Day 2 on the quit, feel like i've damn near gone blind and brain is has turned to shit pudding. Yippie!!! Bought a ton of Hooch fake stuff to get me through.. Hope there's plenty of encouragement on here.
go over to the quit groups and post up in the April 2010 group
Indeed... 48's got a great idea.
Welcome to you bajoman and welcome BACK 48!
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Newbie to the board,,, Day 2 on the quit, feel like i've damn near gone blind and brain is has turned to shit pudding. Yippie!!! Bought a ton of Hooch fake stuff to get me through.. Hope there's plenty of encouragement on here.
go over to the quit groups and post up in the April 2010 group
Indeed... 48's got a great idea.
Welcome to you bajoman and welcome BACK 48!
day 2 shit lets hope this day goes quickly
feeling like dog shit!!!
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Newbie to the board,,, Day 2 on the quit, feel like i've damn near gone blind and brain is has turned to shit pudding. Yippie!!! Bought a ton of Hooch fake stuff to get me through.. Hope there's plenty of encouragement on here.
go over to the quit groups and post up in the April 2010 group
Indeed... 48's got a great idea.
Welcome to you bajoman and welcome BACK 48!
day 2 shit lets hope this day goes quickly
feeling like dog shit!!!
I have made it through the first 7 days and things do get better
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carpet man day 22
carpet man day 22
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carpet man day 22
carpet man day 22
carpet man, head on over to the April group (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=2920) and join about 50 others who are posting days right along with you.
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dmitchell- day 12
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On day one... to being dip free...
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On day one... to being dip free...
Awesome Shane! The first step is the hardest and you've already made it!
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New blog post: People Make We Wonder
http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=351 (http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=351)
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I quit chewing jan 14. So its been 12 days of hell. I've looked at your site for last year or so and kept on trying to unsucessfully quit, but I hope it work this time.
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I quit chewing jan 14. So its been 12 days of hell. I've looked at your site for last year or so and kept on trying to unsucessfully quit, but I hope it work this time.
No try. Just quit.
Welcome. You have found the best place to quit and stay that way. All of the tools and support required can be found here. You can do this. We will help.
If you quit January 14, Your quit group is April 2010... here ....
index.php?show...0#entry5459464 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=2920&st=0&#entry5459464)
Here are some links you may find helpful...
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A how to get started by Remy:
index.php?showtopic=1360 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=1360)
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Quit Groups, What do they mean, by SOS
index.php?showtopic=88 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=88)
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Roll call, why we do it your word by LOOT.
index.php?showtopic=120 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=120)
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What to Expect when you quit.
http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/what.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/what.asp)
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Symptoms of Quitting dip and chew
http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/symptoms.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/symptoms.asp)
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Contract to give up...
http://www.killthecan.org/facts/contract.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/facts/contract.asp)
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Smokeless alternatives
http://killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp (http://killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp)
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How to post roll.
index.php?showtopic=50 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50)
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How to Post ROLL CALL - Roll Call Instructions
Step 1 - Find the last Roll Call
Step 2 - Hit the "Quote" button in the upper right hand corner.
Step 3 - Click your mouse ANYWHERE in The bottom Box
Step 4 - Hit Ctrl and "A" at the Same time so it looks like THIS
Step 5 - Hit Ctrl and "X" at the same time so there is NOTHING in Either Box
Step 6 - Click your mouse in the TOP BOX
Step 7 - Hit Ctrl and "V" at the same time to Past the info into the top box AND ADD YOUR info to the bottom of the list
Step 8 - Hit ADD REPLY below the bottom box
Step 9 - Go back to the 1st unread post, pat yourself on the back, and have a beer cause you will not be dipping today.
You can do this. get off the pot.
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day 11. day 1 was hard all day. the rest have been hard in ten minute intervals once an hour. been on the cope can since sixth grade. am 40yrs old.
I quit chewing jan 14. So its been 12 days of hell. I've looked at your site for last year or so and kept on trying to unsucessfully quit, but I hope it work this time.
No try. Just quit.
Welcome. You have found the best place to quit and stay that way. All of the tools and support required can be found here. You can do this. We will help.
If you quit January 14, Your quit group is April 2010... here ....
index.php?show...0#entry5459464 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=2920&st=0&#entry5459464)
Here are some links you may find helpful...
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A how to get started by Remy:
index.php?showtopic=1360 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=1360)
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Quit Groups, What do they mean, by SOS
index.php?showtopic=88 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=88)
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Roll call, why we do it your word by LOOT.
index.php?showtopic=120 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=120)
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What to Expect when you quit.
http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/what.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/what.asp)
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Symptoms of Quitting dip and chew
http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/symptoms.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/symptoms.asp)
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Contract to give up...
http://www.killthecan.org/facts/contract.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/facts/contract.asp)
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Smokeless alternatives
http://killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp (http://killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp)
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How to post roll.
index.php?showtopic=50 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50)
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How to Post ROLL CALL - Roll Call Instructions
Step 1 - Find the last Roll Call
Step 2 - Hit the "Quote" button in the upper right hand corner.
Step 3 - Click your mouse ANYWHERE in The bottom Box
Step 4 - Hit Ctrl and "A" at the Same time so it looks like THIS
Step 5 - Hit Ctrl and "X" at the same time so there is NOTHING in Either Box
Step 6 - Click your mouse in the TOP BOX
Step 7 - Hit Ctrl and "V" at the same time to Past the info into the top box AND ADD YOUR info to the bottom of the list
Step 8 - Hit ADD REPLY below the bottom box
Step 9 - Go back to the 1st unread post, pat yourself on the back, and have a beer cause you will not be dipping today.
You can do this. get off the pot.
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day 11. day 1 was hard all day. the rest have been hard in ten minute intervals once an hour. been on the cope can since sixth grade. am 40yrs old.
Congratulations my friend... day by day it will be easier and eventually those "bad times" will be very few and far between. For now deal with today. Deal with tomorrow when you get there.
Congrats!
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day 11. day 1 was hard all day. the rest have been hard in ten minute intervals once an hour. been on the cope can since sixth grade. am 40yrs old.
Congratulations my friend... day by day it will be easier and eventually those "bad times" will be very few and far between. For now deal with today. Deal with tomorrow when you get there.
Congrats!
Day 12 of my quit going to give posting a try, been looking at this site every day and so far has been helping,It has not been easy, especially since i use chew for anxiety. chewed Grizzly winter green for 5 years
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Freedom sick and tired of getting my face eaten
freedom
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Freedom sick and tired of getting my face eaten
freedom
It's a beautiful thing...
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The tobacco bastards never give up. Check out this article from today's Sunday Times: Where There's No Smoke, Altria Hopes There's Fire (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/31/business/31altria.html?ref=business). Here is the most outrageous bit:
A series of letters that Altria submitted to the F.D.A. as part of that process argues that the government should, effectively, sign off on the notion that smokeless tobacco products are less harmful that cigarettes -- and that Altria and other companies should be allowed to market them as such to consumers.
We here at KTC are ahead of the curve. We know the dangers of this stuff. It is up to us to get the word out.
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The tobacco bastards never give up. Check out this article from today's Sunday Times: Where There's No Smoke, Altria Hopes There's Fire (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/31/business/31altria.html?ref=business). Here is the most outrageous bit:
A series of letters that Altria submitted to the F.D.A. as part of that process argues that the government should, effectively, sign off on the notion that smokeless tobacco products are less harmful that cigarettes -- and that Altria and other companies should be allowed to market them as such to consumers.
We here at KTC are ahead of the curve. We know the dangers of this stuff. It is up to us to get the word out.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention... these fuckers never know when to quit do they?
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New blog post: When Will Big Tobacco Quit?
http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=354 (http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=354)
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New blog post: When Will Big Tobacco Quit?
http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=354 (http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=354)
Chewie's blog post nails it. Whether dip is safer than cigarettes, or by how much, isn't the issue. Dip is bad in its own right and is capable of causing untold amounts of harm. The government shouldn't be doing anything that suggests that dipping is appropriate or acceptable.
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"Safer than smoking" is the trap I fell into. That was back in... '88...? Since I've quit (-42- days) I've noticed a serious change in my physical condition. Smokeless or not, I'm breathing better. I went out shooting this morning, the first time since I quit. I was walking back from the targets and felt something was missing. It took me two steps to realize what it was and one more to become angry with myself for making such a stupid mistake so many years ago. I know this will never let go of me, and it really wasn't all that great anyway. 'bang head'
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New blog post: When Will Big Tobacco Quit?
http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=354 (http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=354)
Chewie's blog post nails it. Whether dip is safer than cigarettes, or by how much, isn't the issue. Dip is bad in its own right and is capable of causing untold amounts of harm. The government shouldn't be doing anything that suggests that dipping is appropriate or acceptable.
They spent almost 12 Billion (with a B) for UST last year. My guess is that 'the letter' was a part of the business plan at the time. Thanks for putting some sunlight on this chewie and vidoc.
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Don't know if this is the right place or not but I have to get this off my chest... Quit on January 13th and made it almost three weeks and caved like a bitch. I let my friends down, my family down and my fiancee down. I also let down all of the guys in my quit group bc contrary to everything I have read I thought I could have just "one dip". There is no such thing... I caved last Sunday after a very stressful week and have not been able to quit again until today. I messed up. I fell into the lie of rationalization. Let me tell you something rationalizing is the fucking enemy. It will eat you alive from the inside out. DO NOT RATIONALIZE YOUR DECISION! I battled for three weeks and felt the best I have in years, and now I find myself back at day one. I won't let this shit beat me, it won a battle and it ends there. I will be posting roll in the May group starting tomorrow and starting on a fresh foot. Please friends once you quit don't think you can have "just one". You are an addict. You can't. I made it 3 weeks almost and that lie and rationalization lead to a complete relapse, not just a cave. I messed up bad, and I'm man enough to admit it, so tomorrow I start at Day 1. My apologies to whoever reads this, I let everyone down.
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Nothing to be ashamed of, I quit for 36 days last year and caved liked nobody's business, just got back to my quit 5 days ago. Need to have numbers when the rationalization starts. It is amazing what you can convince your self of.
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Don't know if this is the right place or not but I have to get this off my chest... Quit on January 13th and made it almost three weeks and caved like a bitch. I let my friends down, my family down and my fiancee down. I also let down all of the guys in my quit group bc contrary to everything I have read I thought I could have just "one dip". There is no such thing... I caved last Sunday after a very stressful week and have not been able to quit again until today. I messed up. I fell into the lie of rationalization. Let me tell you something rationalizing is the fucking enemy. It will eat you alive from the inside out. DO NOT RATIONALIZE YOUR DECISION! I battled for three weeks and felt the best I have in years, and now I find myself back at day one. I won't let this shit beat me, it won a battle and it ends there. I will be posting roll in the May group starting tomorrow and starting on a fresh foot. Please friends once you quit don't think you can have "just one". You are an addict. You can't. I made it 3 weeks almost and that lie and rationalization lead to a complete relapse, not just a cave. I messed up bad, and I'm man enough to admit it, so tomorrow I start at Day 1. My apologies to whoever reads this, I let everyone down.
That's OK, but remember all of your brothers out here who have made it through to the other side without caving. I know its hard, but ANYONE can cave...only people ready to take their lives back will get through the fog, the anxiety, etc. ARE READY TO QUIT ONCE AND FOR ALL.
Seriously...SHOW US THAT YOU CAN HOLD A QUIT RATHER THAN TALKING ABOUT IT.
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Don't know if this is the right place or not but I have to get this off my chest... Quit on January 13th and made it almost three weeks and caved like a bitch. I let my friends down, my family down and my fiancee down. I also let down all of the guys in my quit group bc contrary to everything I have read I thought I could have just "one dip". There is no such thing... I caved last Sunday after a very stressful week and have not been able to quit again until today. I messed up. I fell into the lie of rationalization. Let me tell you something rationalizing is the fucking enemy. It will eat you alive from the inside out. DO NOT RATIONALIZE YOUR DECISION! I battled for three weeks and felt the best I have in years, and now I find myself back at day one. I won't let this shit beat me, it won a battle and it ends there. I will be posting roll in the May group starting tomorrow and starting on a fresh foot. Please friends once you quit don't think you can have "just one". You are an addict. You can't. I made it 3 weeks almost and that lie and rationalization lead to a complete relapse, not just a cave. I messed up bad, and I'm man enough to admit it, so tomorrow I start at Day 1. My apologies to whoever reads this, I let everyone down.
That's OK, but remember all of your brothers out here who have made it through to the other side without caving. I know its hard, but ANYONE can cave...only people ready to take their lives back will get through the fog, the anxiety, etc. ARE READY TO QUIT ONCE AND FOR ALL.
Seriously...SHOW US THAT YOU CAN HOLD A QUIT RATHER THAN TALKING ABOUT IT.
I gotta disagree....Caving is not OK....EVER!!! Do something else. In my opinion, you should be very ashamed!! You gave your word, and you caved. Your word doesn't mean shit right now!! You need to get your ass into the May group and redeem yourself and prove to us that you are a man of your word. This shit is deadly serious...treat it as such or kindly piss off!!
If you need any help, advice, or a phone number, please pm me. Don't fuck your quit brothers over again.
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Don't know if this is the right place or not but I have to get this off my chest... Quit on January 13th and made it almost three weeks and caved like a bitch. I let my friends down, my family down and my fiancee down. I also let down all of the guys in my quit group bc contrary to everything I have read I thought I could have just "one dip". There is no such thing... I caved last Sunday after a very stressful week and have not been able to quit again until today. I messed up. I fell into the lie of rationalization. Let me tell you something rationalizing is the fucking enemy. It will eat you alive from the inside out. DO NOT RATIONALIZE YOUR DECISION! I battled for three weeks and felt the best I have in years, and now I find myself back at day one. I won't let this shit beat me, it won a battle and it ends there. I will be posting roll in the May group starting tomorrow and starting on a fresh foot. Please friends once you quit don't think you can have "just one". You are an addict. You can't. I made it 3 weeks almost and that lie and rationalization lead to a complete relapse, not just a cave. I messed up bad, and I'm man enough to admit it, so tomorrow I start at Day 1. My apologies to whoever reads this, I let everyone down.
That's OK, but remember all of your brothers out here who have made it through to the other side without caving. I know its hard, but ANYONE can cave...only people ready to take their lives back will get through the fog, the anxiety, etc. ARE READY TO QUIT ONCE AND FOR ALL.
Seriously...SHOW US THAT YOU CAN HOLD A QUIT RATHER THAN TALKING ABOUT IT.
I gotta disagree....Caving is not OK....EVER!!! Do something else. In my opinion, you should be very ashamed!! You gave your word, and you caved. Your word doesn't mean shit right now!! You need to get your ass into the May group and redeem yourself and prove to us that you are a man of your word. This shit is deadly serious...treat it as such or kindly piss off!!
If you need any help, advice, or a phone number, please pm me. Don't fuck your quit brothers over again.
I take this very seriously which is why I sacked up and admitted I was a fucking failure. I'm not trying to quit, I'm going to. Thanks for the support/advice/kick in the pants
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Don't know if this is the right place or not but I have to get this off my chest... Quit on January 13th and made it almost three weeks and caved like a bitch. I let my friends down, my family down and my fiancee down. I also let down all of the guys in my quit group bc contrary to everything I have read I thought I could have just "one dip". There is no such thing... I caved last Sunday after a very stressful week and have not been able to quit again until today. I messed up. I fell into the lie of rationalization. Let me tell you something rationalizing is the fucking enemy. It will eat you alive from the inside out. DO NOT RATIONALIZE YOUR DECISION! I battled for three weeks and felt the best I have in years, and now I find myself back at day one. I won't let this shit beat me, it won a battle and it ends there. I will be posting roll in the May group starting tomorrow and starting on a fresh foot. Please friends once you quit don't think you can have "just one". You are an addict. You can't. I made it 3 weeks almost and that lie and rationalization lead to a complete relapse, not just a cave. I messed up bad, and I'm man enough to admit it, so tomorrow I start at Day 1. My apologies to whoever reads this, I let everyone down.
That's OK, but remember all of your brothers out here who have made it through to the other side without caving. I know its hard, but ANYONE can cave...only people ready to take their lives back will get through the fog, the anxiety, etc. ARE READY TO QUIT ONCE AND FOR ALL.
Seriously...SHOW US THAT YOU CAN HOLD A QUIT RATHER THAN TALKING ABOUT IT.
I gotta disagree....Caving is not OK....EVER!!! Do something else. In my opinion, you should be very ashamed!! You gave your word, and you caved. Your word doesn't mean shit right now!! You need to get your ass into the May group and redeem yourself and prove to us that you are a man of your word. This shit is deadly serious...treat it as such or kindly piss off!!
If you need any help, advice, or a phone number, please pm me. Don't fuck your quit brothers over again.
I take this very seriously which is why I sacked up and admitted I was a fucking failure. I'm not trying to quit, I'm going to. Thanks for the support/advice/kick in the pants
That's good enough for me. Check your pm's...I'm going to send you my number. Also, I'm giving you my word that I'm going to post roll with you threw your HOF. You are giving your word to me and the rest of the people here that you are QUIT!! You can do this, bro!!! Get it done!!
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Don't know if this is the right place or not but I have to get this off my chest... Quit on January 13th and made it almost three weeks and caved like a bitch. I let my friends down, my family down and my fiancee down. I also let down all of the guys in my quit group bc contrary to everything I have read I thought I could have just "one dip". There is no such thing... I caved last Sunday after a very stressful week and have not been able to quit again until today. I messed up. I fell into the lie of rationalization. Let me tell you something rationalizing is the fucking enemy. It will eat you alive from the inside out. DO NOT RATIONALIZE YOUR DECISION! I battled for three weeks and felt the best I have in years, and now I find myself back at day one. I won't let this shit beat me, it won a battle and it ends there. I will be posting roll in the May group starting tomorrow and starting on a fresh foot. Please friends once you quit don't think you can have "just one". You are an addict. You can't. I made it 3 weeks almost and that lie and rationalization lead to a complete relapse, not just a cave. I messed up bad, and I'm man enough to admit it, so tomorrow I start at Day 1. My apologies to whoever reads this, I let everyone down.
That's OK, but remember all of your brothers out here who have made it through to the other side without caving. I know its hard, but ANYONE can cave...only people ready to take their lives back will get through the fog, the anxiety, etc. ARE READY TO QUIT ONCE AND FOR ALL.
Seriously...SHOW US THAT YOU CAN HOLD A QUIT RATHER THAN TALKING ABOUT IT.
I gotta disagree....Caving is not OK....EVER!!! Do something else. In my opinion, you should be very ashamed!! You gave your word, and you caved. Your word doesn't mean shit right now!! You need to get your ass into the May group and redeem yourself and prove to us that you are a man of your word. This shit is deadly serious...treat it as such or kindly piss off!!
If you need any help, advice, or a phone number, please pm me. Don't fuck your quit brothers over again.
I take this very seriously which is why I sacked up and admitted I was a fucking failure. I'm not trying to quit, I'm going to. Thanks for the support/advice/kick in the pants
That's good enough for me. Check your pm's...I'm going to send you my number. Also, I'm giving you my word that I'm going to post roll with you threw your HOF. You are giving your word to me and the rest of the people here that you are QUIT!! You can do this, bro!!! Get it done!!
ok manbearpig, you have no excuses now!!! Greg40 is a bad-ass quittter and he now has your back!!! Let's get this done!!!
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Don't know if this is the right place or not but I have to get this off my chest... Quit on January 13th and made it almost three weeks and caved like a bitch. I let my friends down, my family down and my fiancee down. I also let down all of the guys in my quit group bc contrary to everything I have read I thought I could have just "one dip". There is no such thing... I caved last Sunday after a very stressful week and have not been able to quit again until today. I messed up. I fell into the lie of rationalization. Let me tell you something rationalizing is the fucking enemy. It will eat you alive from the inside out. DO NOT RATIONALIZE YOUR DECISION! I battled for three weeks and felt the best I have in years, and now I find myself back at day one. I won't let this shit beat me, it won a battle and it ends there. I will be posting roll in the May group starting tomorrow and starting on a fresh foot. Please friends once you quit don't think you can have "just one". You are an addict. You can't. I made it 3 weeks almost and that lie and rationalization lead to a complete relapse, not just a cave. I messed up bad, and I'm man enough to admit it, so tomorrow I start at Day 1. My apologies to whoever reads this, I let everyone down.
That's OK, but remember all of your brothers out here who have made it through to the other side without caving. I know its hard, but ANYONE can cave...only people ready to take their lives back will get through the fog, the anxiety, etc. ARE READY TO QUIT ONCE AND FOR ALL.
Seriously...SHOW US THAT YOU CAN HOLD A QUIT RATHER THAN TALKING ABOUT IT.
I gotta disagree....Caving is not OK....EVER!!! Do something else. In my opinion, you should be very ashamed!! You gave your word, and you caved. Your word doesn't mean shit right now!! You need to get your ass into the May group and redeem yourself and prove to us that you are a man of your word. This shit is deadly serious...treat it as such or kindly piss off!!
If you need any help, advice, or a phone number, please pm me. Don't fuck your quit brothers over again.
I take this very seriously which is why I sacked up and admitted I was a fucking failure. I'm not trying to quit, I'm going to. Thanks for the support/advice/kick in the pants
That's good enough for me. Check your pm's...I'm going to send you my number. Also, I'm giving you my word that I'm going to post roll with you threw your HOF. You are giving your word to me and the rest of the people here that you are QUIT!! You can do this, bro!!! Get it done!!
ok manbearpig, you have no excuses now!!! Greg40 is a bad-ass quittter and he now has your back!!! Let's get this done!!!
One is too many, a thousand aren't enough.
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Don't know if this is the right place or not but I have to get this off my chest... Quit on January 13th and made it almost three weeks and caved like a bitch. I let my friends down, my family down and my fiancee down. I also let down all of the guys in my quit group bc contrary to everything I have read I thought I could have just "one dip". There is no such thing... I caved last Sunday after a very stressful week and have not been able to quit again until today. I messed up. I fell into the lie of rationalization. Let me tell you something rationalizing is the fucking enemy. It will eat you alive from the inside out. DO NOT RATIONALIZE YOUR DECISION! I battled for three weeks and felt the best I have in years, and now I find myself back at day one. I won't let this shit beat me, it won a battle and it ends there. I will be posting roll in the May group starting tomorrow and starting on a fresh foot. Please friends once you quit don't think you can have "just one". You are an addict. You can't. I made it 3 weeks almost and that lie and rationalization lead to a complete relapse, not just a cave. I messed up bad, and I'm man enough to admit it, so tomorrow I start at Day 1. My apologies to whoever reads this, I let everyone down.
That's OK, but remember all of your brothers out here who have made it through to the other side without caving. I know its hard, but ANYONE can cave...only people ready to take their lives back will get through the fog, the anxiety, etc. ARE READY TO QUIT ONCE AND FOR ALL.
Seriously...SHOW US THAT YOU CAN HOLD A QUIT RATHER THAN TALKING ABOUT IT.
I gotta disagree....Caving is not OK....EVER!!! Do something else. In my opinion, you should be very ashamed!! You gave your word, and you caved. Your word doesn't mean shit right now!! You need to get your ass into the May group and redeem yourself and prove to us that you are a man of your word. This shit is deadly serious...treat it as such or kindly piss off!!
If you need any help, advice, or a phone number, please pm me. Don't fuck your quit brothers over again.
I take this very seriously which is why I sacked up and admitted I was a fucking failure. I'm not trying to quit, I'm going to. Thanks for the support/advice/kick in the pants
That's good enough for me. Check your pm's...I'm going to send you my number. Also, I'm giving you my word that I'm going to post roll with you threw your HOF. You are giving your word to me and the rest of the people here that you are QUIT!! You can do this, bro!!! Get it done!!
ok manbearpig, you have no excuses now!!! Greg40 is a bad-ass quittter and he now has your back!!! Let's get this done!!!
One is too many, a thousand aren't enough.
It is never right to cave. Never. You're my brother MBP, but there are times when an addict has to worry about their own quit. Get your ass going.
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Don't know if this is the right place or not but I have to get this off my chest... Quit on January 13th and made it almost three weeks and caved like a bitch. I let my friends down, my family down and my fiancee down. I also let down all of the guys in my quit group bc contrary to everything I have read I thought I could have just "one dip". There is no such thing... I caved last Sunday after a very stressful week and have not been able to quit again until today. I messed up. I fell into the lie of rationalization. Let me tell you something rationalizing is the fucking enemy. It will eat you alive from the inside out. DO NOT RATIONALIZE YOUR DECISION! I battled for three weeks and felt the best I have in years, and now I find myself back at day one. I won't let this shit beat me, it won a battle and it ends there. I will be posting roll in the May group starting tomorrow and starting on a fresh foot. Please friends once you quit don't think you can have "just one". You are an addict. You can't. I made it 3 weeks almost and that lie and rationalization lead to a complete relapse, not just a cave. I messed up bad, and I'm man enough to admit it, so tomorrow I start at Day 1. My apologies to whoever reads this, I let everyone down.
That's OK, but remember all of your brothers out here who have made it through to the other side without caving. I know its hard, but ANYONE can cave...only people ready to take their lives back will get through the fog, the anxiety, etc. ARE READY TO QUIT ONCE AND FOR ALL.
Seriously...SHOW US THAT YOU CAN HOLD A QUIT RATHER THAN TALKING ABOUT IT.
I gotta disagree....Caving is not OK....EVER!!! Do something else. In my opinion, you should be very ashamed!! You gave your word, and you caved. Your word doesn't mean shit right now!! You need to get your ass into the May group and redeem yourself and prove to us that you are a man of your word. This shit is deadly serious...treat it as such or kindly piss off!!
If you need any help, advice, or a phone number, please pm me. Don't fuck your quit brothers over again.
I take this very seriously which is why I sacked up and admitted I was a fucking failure. I'm not trying to quit, I'm going to. Thanks for the support/advice/kick in the pants
That's good enough for me. Check your pm's...I'm going to send you my number. Also, I'm giving you my word that I'm going to post roll with you threw your HOF. You are giving your word to me and the rest of the people here that you are QUIT!! You can do this, bro!!! Get it done!!
ok manbearpig, you have no excuses now!!! Greg40 is a bad-ass quittter and he now has your back!!! Let's get this done!!!
One is too many, a thousand aren't enough.
It is never right to cave. Never. You're my brother MBP, but there are times when an addict has to worry about their own quit. Get your ass going.
what I think sucks is that you did not post this in the April group where you have been making your promise each day. There will be a lot of your quit brothere who will never see this.
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Don't know if this is the right place or not but I have to get this off my chest... Quit on January 13th and made it almost three weeks and caved like a bitch. I let my friends down, my family down and my fiancee down. I also let down all of the guys in my quit group bc contrary to everything I have read I thought I could have just "one dip". There is no such thing... I caved last Sunday after a very stressful week and have not been able to quit again until today. I messed up. I fell into the lie of rationalization. Let me tell you something rationalizing is the fucking enemy. It will eat you alive from the inside out. DO NOT RATIONALIZE YOUR DECISION! I battled for three weeks and felt the best I have in years, and now I find myself back at day one. I won't let this shit beat me, it won a battle and it ends there. I will be posting roll in the May group starting tomorrow and starting on a fresh foot. Please friends once you quit don't think you can have "just one". You are an addict. You can't. I made it 3 weeks almost and that lie and rationalization lead to a complete relapse, not just a cave. I messed up bad, and I'm man enough to admit it, so tomorrow I start at Day 1. My apologies to whoever reads this, I let everyone down.
That's OK, but remember all of your brothers out here who have made it through to the other side without caving. I know its hard, but ANYONE can cave...only people ready to take their lives back will get through the fog, the anxiety, etc. ARE READY TO QUIT ONCE AND FOR ALL.
Seriously...SHOW US THAT YOU CAN HOLD A QUIT RATHER THAN TALKING ABOUT IT.
I gotta disagree....Caving is not OK....EVER!!! Do something else. In my opinion, you should be very ashamed!! You gave your word, and you caved. Your word doesn't mean shit right now!! You need to get your ass into the May group and redeem yourself and prove to us that you are a man of your word. This shit is deadly serious...treat it as such or kindly piss off!!
If you need any help, advice, or a phone number, please pm me. Don't fuck your quit brothers over again.
I take this very seriously which is why I sacked up and admitted I was a fucking failure. I'm not trying to quit, I'm going to. Thanks for the support/advice/kick in the pants
That's good enough for me. Check your pm's...I'm going to send you my number. Also, I'm giving you my word that I'm going to post roll with you threw your HOF. You are giving your word to me and the rest of the people here that you are QUIT!! You can do this, bro!!! Get it done!!
ok manbearpig, you have no excuses now!!! Greg40 is a bad-ass quittter and he now has your back!!! Let's get this done!!!
One is too many, a thousand aren't enough.
It is never right to cave. Never. You're my brother MBP, but there are times when an addict has to worry about their own quit. Get your ass going.
what I think sucks is that you did not post this in the April group where you have been making your promise each day. There will be a lot of your quit brothere who will never see this.
Quit groups are for people that are quit....not for people that are going to post a day one "tomorrow".
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Don't know if this is the right place or not but I have to get this off my chest... Quit on January 13th and made it almost three weeks and caved like a bitch. I let my friends down, my family down and my fiancee down. I also let down all of the guys in my quit group bc contrary to everything I have read I thought I could have just "one dip". There is no such thing... I caved last Sunday after a very stressful week and have not been able to quit again until today. I messed up. I fell into the lie of rationalization. Let me tell you something rationalizing is the fucking enemy. It will eat you alive from the inside out. DO NOT RATIONALIZE YOUR DECISION! I battled for three weeks and felt the best I have in years, and now I find myself back at day one. I won't let this shit beat me, it won a battle and it ends there. I will be posting roll in the May group starting tomorrow and starting on a fresh foot. Please friends once you quit don't think you can have "just one". You are an addict. You can't. I made it 3 weeks almost and that lie and rationalization lead to a complete relapse, not just a cave. I messed up bad, and I'm man enough to admit it, so tomorrow I start at Day 1. My apologies to whoever reads this, I let everyone down.
That's OK, but remember all of your brothers out here who have made it through to the other side without caving. I know its hard, but ANYONE can cave...only people ready to take their lives back will get through the fog, the anxiety, etc. ARE READY TO QUIT ONCE AND FOR ALL.
Seriously...SHOW US THAT YOU CAN HOLD A QUIT RATHER THAN TALKING ABOUT IT.
I gotta disagree....Caving is not OK....EVER!!! Do something else. In my opinion, you should be very ashamed!! You gave your word, and you caved. Your word doesn't mean shit right now!! You need to get your ass into the May group and redeem yourself and prove to us that you are a man of your word. This shit is deadly serious...treat it as such or kindly piss off!!
If you need any help, advice, or a phone number, please pm me. Don't fuck your quit brothers over again.
I take this very seriously which is why I sacked up and admitted I was a fucking failure. I'm not trying to quit, I'm going to. Thanks for the support/advice/kick in the pants
That's good enough for me. Check your pm's...I'm going to send you my number. Also, I'm giving you my word that I'm going to post roll with you threw your HOF. You are giving your word to me and the rest of the people here that you are QUIT!! You can do this, bro!!! Get it done!!
ok manbearpig, you have no excuses now!!! Greg40 is a bad-ass quittter and he now has your back!!! Let's get this done!!!
One is too many, a thousand aren't enough.
It is never right to cave. Never. You're my brother MBP, but there are times when an addict has to worry about their own quit. Get your ass going.
what I think sucks is that you did not post this in the April group where you have been making your promise each day. There will be a lot of your quit brothere who will never see this.
Quit groups are for people that are quit....not for people that are going to post a day one "tomorrow".
42 - that is how many skirt wearing, apron tugging, namby pambies came through March 2010 posted a Day 1 and then dissappeared without ever manning up and owning their failure. Wait....41.....gotta give goochy his due. Greg40 is right, it isn't okay but I think you get that. Hence, why you are potentially different than the 41 sallies I just mentioned. MikeA is also right, I think you owe it to April to go in there and explain to them what happened. That would be manning up.
Check you pm. I am going to send you my number and when you think you are about to cave call me. If you can convince me that your logic is sound I will give you my blessing and you can have that chew and I will come back to the group and take all the heat. (disclosure - I am weak and always seeks the approval of others)
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The strength I have found here as helped me to stay quit for 8 days. If I had that kind of will power I would of just quit years ago. I don't have that kind of will power now either. What I do have is the support of this group, I find my strength here. On day 6 I needed to go to the store to pick up milk. When I was getting ready to leave the house the thought crossed my mind to pick up a can and start chewing again. Not just have one, not even just one can my plan was to start up again. Normally that would of been the end of my quit. But now I have tools I went to the chat room and found one person there. I was completely honest with him and he helped me. It wasn't anything that a non addict would think of as a miracle but I know better. That one person was able by being a member of this group to do something for me that I could not do for myself. His advice was pretty simple too. He told me that the crave would pass. That's it the crave would pass. well while couldn't I think of that on my own. haha. Anyway we can't beat ourselves up we can only use the tools that are freely given to us here. Honesty. thanx JH
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The strength I have found here as helped me to stay quit for 8 days. If I had that kind of will power I would of just quit years ago. I don't have that kind of will power now either. What I do have is the support of this group, I find my strength here. On day 6 I needed to go to the store to pick up milk. When I was getting ready to leave the house the thought crossed my mind to pick up a can and start chewing again. Not just have one, not even just one can my plan was to start up again. Normally that would of been the end of my quit. But now I have tools I went to the chat room and found one person there. I was completely honest with him and he helped me. It wasn't anything that a non addict would think of as a miracle but I know better. That one person was able by being a member of this group to do something for me that I could not do for myself. His advice was pretty simple too. He told me that the crave would pass. That's it the crave would pass. well while couldn't I think of that on my own. haha. Anyway we can't beat ourselves up we can only use the tools that are freely given to us here. Honesty. thanx JH
You just took a HUGE step my friend... well done!!!
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The strength I have found here as helped me to stay quit for 8 days. If I had that kind of will power I would of just quit years ago. I don't have that kind of will power now either. What I do have is the support of this group, I find my strength here. On day 6 I needed to go to the store to pick up milk. When I was getting ready to leave the house the thought crossed my mind to pick up a can and start chewing again. Not just have one, not even just one can my plan was to start up again. Normally that would of been the end of my quit. But now I have tools I went to the chat room and found one person there. I was completely honest with him and he helped me. It wasn't anything that a non addict would think of as a miracle but I know better. That one person was able by being a member of this group to do something for me that I could not do for myself. His advice was pretty simple too. He told me that the crave would pass. That's it the crave would pass. well while couldn't I think of that on my own. haha. Anyway we can't beat ourselves up we can only use the tools that are freely given to us here. Honesty. thanx JH
You just took a HUGE step my friend... well done!!!
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This is my day 3 of quit. I introduced myself earlier as Bill C . That was in the April group, but then it said go to May. I'm not so sure I'm doing this Roll Call right. At least I'm here under Roll Call 2010. ( I hope you guys have patience with my attempt. I don't have patience for the computer so I'm tellig my wife what to type. Hope that's ok. She quit smoking years ago after 20 years of Salems so she understands.) Here goes.....I am a 46 year Skoal /Silver Creek chewer,2 cans daily. I started as a 14 year old farmkid. So, I am 60 now and the dr said I won't live as long as I should if I keep chewing. That led to lots of tries and lots of health issues. I have epilepsy,heart disease, sleep apnea, TMJ, and parkinsons type tremors. They had to change my meds alot,especially after I had a heart valve replacement,stents,and ablation. They recently took me off Thorazine after 27 years on it ( Mayo Clinic had prescribed it). Since September '09, I have had a bad withdrawl and all kinds of issues,seizures,etc. I say this to you guys because It may have prepared me somewhat for the quit. This time it may work . An ENT specialist just this week examined me,looked me in the eye and said, " I cut out tongues and voice boxes all the time". That hit home. I am glad I found this group! Bill C
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This is my day 3 of quit. I introduced myself earlier as Bill C . That was in the April group, but then it said go to May. I'm not so sure I'm doing this Roll Call right. At least I'm here under Roll Call 2010. ( I hope you guys have patience with my attempt. I don't have patience for the computer so I'm tellig my wife what to type. Hope that's ok. She quit smoking years ago after 20 years of Salems so she understands.) Here goes.....I am a 46 year Skoal /Silver Creek chewer,2 cans daily. I started as a 14 year old farmkid. So, I am 60 now and the dr said I won't live as long as I should if I keep chewing. That led to lots of tries and lots of health issues. I have epilepsy,heart disease, sleep apnea, TMJ, and parkinsons type tremors. They had to change my meds alot,especially after I had a heart valve replacement,stents,and ablation. They recently took me off Thorazine after 27 years on it ( Mayo Clinic had prescribed it). Since September '09, I have had a bad withdrawl and all kinds of issues,seizures,etc. I say this to you guys because It may have prepared me somewhat for the quit. This time it may work . An ENT specialist just this week examined me,looked me in the eye and said, " I cut out tongues and voice boxes all the time". That hit home. I am glad I found this group! Bill C
Damn glad to have you Bill! You made yourself a great decision. Only 1 issue with your post... "This time it may work." It absolutely WILL work if you want it to. You're in the right place to succeed. Vent here if you need to!
chewie
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Now where do we post roll call Chews?
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sorry bud, couldn't resist.
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Now where do we post roll call Chews?
* shrugs *
Let me know if you figure it out...
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I'm 17 days into my quit and tobacco free. I have been chewing nicotine gum to wean myself off the nasty shit. Has anyone else had success with this method, or does it do more harm than good. I'm interested to hear other peoples experience with this. I feel great without having that turd in my lip, so regardless I feel like it is a step in the right direction. I wont but the dip back in. I will get off the gum soon. I just need to pick a date and make it happen. Please reply with any thoughts about "the gum".
-BCAGreenfield. 'help'
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I'm 17 days into my quit and tobacco free. I have been chewing nicotine gum to wean myself off the nasty shit. Has anyone else had success with this method, or does it do more harm than good. I'm interested to hear other peoples experience with this. I feel great without having that turd in my lip, so regardless I feel like it is a step in the right direction. I wont but the dip back in. I will get off the gum soon. I just need to pick a date and make it happen. Please reply with any thoughts about "the gum".
-BCAGreenfield. 'help'
Stop the nic gum now. You are just fooling yourself. Nicotine is Nicotine is Nicotine and it is very addictive in any form.
You are an addict. The only way to quit is to quit, period, not plan to quit, not think about it, not substitute one form of the drug for the other, just quit, now, this minute, finished.
Until then, you are not quit and shouldn't be posting role.
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I'm 17 days into my quit and tobacco free. I have been chewing nicotine gum to wean myself off the nasty shit. Has anyone else had success with this method, or does it do more harm than good. I'm interested to hear other peoples experience with this. I feel great without having that turd in my lip, so regardless I feel like it is a step in the right direction. I wont but the dip back in. I will get off the gum soon. I just need to pick a date and make it happen. Please reply with any thoughts about "the gum".
-BCAGreenfield. 'help'
Stop the nic gum now. You are just fooling yourself. Nicotine is Nicotine is Nicotine and it is very addictive in any form.
You are an addict. The only way to quit is to quit, period, not plan to quit, not think about it, not substitute one form of the drug for the other, just quit, now, this minute, finished.
Until then, you are not quit and shouldn't be posting role.
Howell is correct. The gum has nicotine in it so while you are dip free, you are not yet nic free. If you're using the gum AS PRESCRIBED (IE, stepping down the way they suggest) then you're perfectly OK to post roll with your group (in my opinion).
However, if you're using the gum just to "take the edge off" or "only when you're craving" then all you've done is changed your delivery method (from dip to gum).
You've definitely taken a step in the right direction so congrats for that!
chewie
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I'm 17 days into my quit and tobacco free. I have been chewing nicotine gum to wean myself off the nasty shit. Has anyone else had success with this method, or does it do more harm than good. I'm interested to hear other peoples experience with this. I feel great without having that turd in my lip, so regardless I feel like it is a step in the right direction. I wont but the dip back in. I will get off the gum soon. I just need to pick a date and make it happen. Please reply with any thoughts about "the gum".
-BCAGreenfield. 'help'
Stop the nic gum now. You are just fooling yourself. Nicotine is Nicotine is Nicotine and it is very addictive in any form.
You are an addict. The only way to quit is to quit, period, not plan to quit, not think about it, not substitute one form of the drug for the other, just quit, now, this minute, finished.
Until then, you are not quit and shouldn't be posting role.
Howell is correct. The gum has nicotine in it so while you are dip free, you are not yet nic free. If you're using the gum AS PRESCRIBED (IE, stepping down the way they suggest) then you're perfectly OK to post roll with your group (in my opinion).
However, if you're using the gum just to "take the edge off" or "only when you're craving" then all you've done is changed your delivery method (from dip to gum).
You've definitely taken a step in the right direction so congrats for that!
chewie
Thanks for the replies guys. I have been taking less than the amount the directions say to take. They say to take up to 24 pieces of gum per day. Right now I'm at about 12-14. I've been taking it as it indicates on the box, not to avoid the cravings. What I've seen is that if you take it as perscribed you dont get cravings at all.
If you dont want me posting roll I can respect that. My quit plan is more conservative than some others. I've been on / off chew for over 16years. Some of the guys here have been doing it much longer and have taken a more aggresive approach to quitting. I have a ton of respect for those guys. It is huge to quit cold turkey. Hats off.
What I will commit to this group is that I will not buy another pack of nic gum period. Its done. Thanks for the kick in the ass.
So I haven't provided a ton of background on my quit to date in the chat rooms. I was a closet chewer. I would hide it from my wife and only chew in my car or when I was alone. I was lying to her and it was killing me emotionally every day and physically. I just refused to face up to my weakness. So inevitabley I was busted chewing. I needed this kick in the ass to help my quit. This is quitting on my terms, not hers. I'm doing it for me. I just needed something, someone to help me realize how much I was hurting myself and them by lying to them and putting toxins in my body. I felt like shit.
I was telling myself I was going to quit sooner or later and I had done it before. But I was getting away with it. Chewing is embarassing, so why would I tell her about it, I was ashamed of myself. But after the storm of getting busted blew over the one nice thing is that my wife has been super supportive and is holding me to staying quit in a way that is comfortable (not overbearing). She realizes I'm an addict. I do to. It sucks admitting it. Were both cool with the gum. Tonight when I get home from work I'm telling her that is over too. Thanks for the additional kick in the ass guys. Tomorrow my roll will post day 18 days no tobacco, day 1 no gum. If I need to repost day 1 I'll do that too. Whatever it takes to be respectful of the guys that have taken a harder path.
BCAGreenfield
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I'm 17 days into my quit and tobacco free. I have been chewing nicotine gum to wean myself off the nasty shit. Has anyone else had success with this method, or does it do more harm than good. I'm interested to hear other peoples experience with this. I feel great without having that turd in my lip, so regardless I feel like it is a step in the right direction. I wont but the dip back in. I will get off the gum soon. I just need to pick a date and make it happen. Please reply with any thoughts about "the gum".
-BCAGreenfield. 'help'
Stop the nic gum now. You are just fooling yourself. Nicotine is Nicotine is Nicotine and it is very addictive in any form.
You are an addict. The only way to quit is to quit, period, not plan to quit, not think about it, not substitute one form of the drug for the other, just quit, now, this minute, finished.
Until then, you are not quit and shouldn't be posting role.
Howell is correct. The gum has nicotine in it so while you are dip free, you are not yet nic free. If you're using the gum AS PRESCRIBED (IE, stepping down the way they suggest) then you're perfectly OK to post roll with your group (in my opinion).
However, if you're using the gum just to "take the edge off" or "only when you're craving" then all you've done is changed your delivery method (from dip to gum).
You've definitely taken a step in the right direction so congrats for that!
chewie
Thanks for the replies guys. I have been taking less than the amount the directions say to take. They say to take up to 24 pieces of gum per day. Right now I'm at about 12-14. I've been taking it as it indicates on the box, not to avoid the cravings. What I've seen is that if you take it as perscribed you dont get cravings at all.
If you dont want me posting roll I can respect that. My quit plan is more conservative than some others. I've been on / off chew for over 16years. Some of the guys here have been doing it much longer and have taken a more aggresive approach to quitting. I have a ton of respect for those guys. It is huge to quit cold turkey. Hats off.
What I will commit to this group is that I will not buy another pack of nic gum period. Its done. Thanks for the kick in the ass.
So I haven't provided a ton of background on my quit to date in the chat rooms. I was a closet chewer. I would hide it from my wife and only chew in my car or when I was alone. I was lying to her and it was killing me emotionally every day and physically. I just refused to face up to my weakness. So inevitabley I was busted chewing. I needed this kick in the ass to help my quit. This is quitting on my terms, not hers. I'm doing it for me. I just needed something, someone to help me realize how much I was hurting myself and them by lying to them and putting toxins in my body. I felt like shit.
I was telling myself I was going to quit sooner or later and I had done it before. But I was getting away with it. Chewing is embarassing, so why would I tell her about it, I was ashamed of myself. But after the storm of getting busted blew over the one nice thing is that my wife has been super supportive and is holding me to staying quit in a way that is comfortable (not overbearing). She realizes I'm an addict. I do to. It sucks admitting it. Were both cool with the gum. Tonight when I get home from work I'm telling her that is over too. Thanks for the additional kick in the ass guys. Tomorrow my roll will post day 18 days no tobacco, day 1 no gum. If I need to repost day 1 I'll do that too. Whatever it takes to be respectful of the guys that have taken a harder path.
BCAGreenfield
This is not about "trying". There is no easy way. To get away from it, you must stop completely. There is no "conservative" quit. Quit now and completely, we will be here for you. 'archer'
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I'm 17 days into my quit and tobacco free. I have been chewing nicotine gum to wean myself off the nasty shit. Has anyone else had success with this method, or does it do more harm than good. I'm interested to hear other peoples experience with this. I feel great without having that turd in my lip, so regardless I feel like it is a step in the right direction. I wont but the dip back in. I will get off the gum soon. I just need to pick a date and make it happen. Please reply with any thoughts about "the gum".
-BCAGreenfield. 'help'
Stop the nic gum now. You are just fooling yourself. Nicotine is Nicotine is Nicotine and it is very addictive in any form.
You are an addict. The only way to quit is to quit, period, not plan to quit, not think about it, not substitute one form of the drug for the other, just quit, now, this minute, finished.
Until then, you are not quit and shouldn't be posting role.
Howell is correct. The gum has nicotine in it so while you are dip free, you are not yet nic free. If you're using the gum AS PRESCRIBED (IE, stepping down the way they suggest) then you're perfectly OK to post roll with your group (in my opinion).
However, if you're using the gum just to "take the edge off" or "only when you're craving" then all you've done is changed your delivery method (from dip to gum).
You've definitely taken a step in the right direction so congrats for that!
chewie
Thanks for the replies guys. I have been taking less than the amount the directions say to take. They say to take up to 24 pieces of gum per day. Right now I'm at about 12-14. I've been taking it as it indicates on the box, not to avoid the cravings. What I've seen is that if you take it as perscribed you dont get cravings at all.
If you dont want me posting roll I can respect that. My quit plan is more conservative than some others. I've been on / off chew for over 16years. Some of the guys here have been doing it much longer and have taken a more aggresive approach to quitting. I have a ton of respect for those guys. It is huge to quit cold turkey. Hats off.
What I will commit to this group is that I will not buy another pack of nic gum period. Its done. Thanks for the kick in the ass.
So I haven't provided a ton of background on my quit to date in the chat rooms. I was a closet chewer. I would hide it from my wife and only chew in my car or when I was alone. I was lying to her and it was killing me emotionally every day and physically. I just refused to face up to my weakness. So inevitabley I was busted chewing. I needed this kick in the ass to help my quit. This is quitting on my terms, not hers. I'm doing it for me. I just needed something, someone to help me realize how much I was hurting myself and them by lying to them and putting toxins in my body. I felt like shit.
I was telling myself I was going to quit sooner or later and I had done it before. But I was getting away with it. Chewing is embarassing, so why would I tell her about it, I was ashamed of myself. But after the storm of getting busted blew over the one nice thing is that my wife has been super supportive and is holding me to staying quit in a way that is comfortable (not overbearing). She realizes I'm an addict. I do to. It sucks admitting it. Were both cool with the gum. Tonight when I get home from work I'm telling her that is over too. Thanks for the additional kick in the ass guys. Tomorrow my roll will post day 18 days no tobacco, day 1 no gum. If I need to repost day 1 I'll do that too. Whatever it takes to be respectful of the guys that have taken a harder path.
BCAGreenfield
This is not about "trying". There is no easy way. To get away from it, you must stop completely. There is no "conservative" quit. Quit now and completely, we will be here for you. 'archer'
I don't mean to bust your ass too much BCA because I really want you to quit. I have tried quitting a million times and I have used the gum at length. The fact of the matter is that when you stop chewing that gum your craves will begin. The rage flashes will begin. The physical withdrawal will begin. And when they do, then this site will be here for you and you will have an outpouring of support. However, by posting roll while chewing nic gum (while apparently ok under the rules of this site) is disrespectful to others going through the suck. My advice is to not piss of those that want to support you in your quit. You don't need this site to chew the gum.
Again, I want you to quit and will be glad to give you my number when you do. If you need to chew the gum before your quit, then go for it. When you are ready, then go post a 1 in the correct group and you will get the support you need to fight this terrible fucking addiction.
DQTQ - 81...and every day I still battle
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What's a good way to stem the cravings around bed time? I almost always put in a dip and watched a movie before going to bed. Now that I quit, I can't help but want something in it's place before going to sleep. I've tried food, but from all I've heard and read eating food right before going to sleep is bad. Plus sometimes crumbles get in my bed and then that's no good :(
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What's a good way to stem the cravings around bed time? I almost always put in a dip and watched a movie before going to bed. Now that I quit, I can't help but want something in it's place before going to sleep. I've tried food, but from all I've heard and read eating food right before going to sleep is bad. Plus sometimes crumbles get in my bed and then that's no good :(
I was a big fan of the fake stuff - Smokey Mountain, Hooch, Young's etc.
If you don't have any I've heard other people trying coffee grounds, beef jerky, etc.
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What's a good way to stem the cravings around bed time? I almost always put in a dip and watched a movie before going to bed. Now that I quit, I can't help but want something in it's place before going to sleep. I've tried food, but from all I've heard and read eating food right before going to sleep is bad. Plus sometimes crumbles get in my bed and then that's no good :(
I was a big fan of the fake stuff - Smokey Mountain, Hooch, Young's etc.
If you don't have any I've heard other people trying coffee grounds, beef jerky, etc.
SEX...best crave killer out there and if your anything like me, 10 seconds after Im out cold.
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What's a good way to stem the cravings around bed time? I almost always put in a dip and watched a movie before going to bed. Now that I quit, I can't help but want something in it's place before going to sleep. I've tried food, but from all I've heard and read eating food right before going to sleep is bad. Plus sometimes crumbles get in my bed and then that's no good :(
I was a big fan of the fake stuff - Smokey Mountain, Hooch, Young's etc.
If you don't have any I've heard other people trying coffee grounds, beef jerky, etc.
SEX...best crave killer out there and if your anything like me, 10 seconds after Im out cold.
The 2nd best way is with anything but dip. Cubs way is #1. 'boob'
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What's a good way to stem the cravings around bed time? I almost always put in a dip and watched a movie before going to bed. Now that I quit, I can't help but want something in it's place before going to sleep. I've tried food, but from all I've heard and read eating food right before going to sleep is bad. Plus sometimes crumbles get in my bed and then that's no good :(
I was a big fan of the fake stuff - Smokey Mountain, Hooch, Young's etc.
If you don't have any I've heard other people trying coffee grounds, beef jerky, etc.
SEX...best crave killer out there and if your anything like me, 10 seconds after Im out cold.
The 2nd best way is with anything but dip. Cubs way is #1. 'boob'
Nips, DumDums, Werthers, Gum (good gum, not that hard shit that makes your jaw hurt), Atomic Fireballs, Smokey's seaweed wraps, shredded coconut, seeds - but I guess that's not exactly indoor movie stuff, beef jerky.
Exercise was the big deal for me, though.
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What's a good way to stem the cravings around bed time? I almost always put in a dip and watched a movie before going to bed. Now that I quit, I can't help but want something in it's place before going to sleep. I've tried food, but from all I've heard and read eating food right before going to sleep is bad. Plus sometimes crumbles get in my bed and then that's no good :(
I was a big fan of the fake stuff - Smokey Mountain, Hooch, Young's etc.
If you don't have any I've heard other people trying coffee grounds, beef jerky, etc.
SEX...best crave killer out there and if your anything like me, 10 seconds after Im out cold.
The 2nd best way is with anything but dip. Cubs way is #1. 'boob'
Nips, DumDums, Werthers, Gum (good gum, not that hard shit that makes your jaw hurt), Atomic Fireballs, Smokey's seaweed wraps, shredded coconut, seeds - but I guess that's not exactly indoor movie stuff, beef jerky.
Exercise was the big deal for me, though.
The gum I've really relied on during my quit is Extra Winterfresh. It's flavor lasts for a long time and it's not hard to chew. It's also sugar free so you are not constantly giving your teeth a shower of sugar.
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Ok quitters, I have a very serious topic/question. I’m in my 4th day being a member here and I have read here a number of times that we shouldn’t “romanticize” about our past dipping habit. We need to be positive and absolute in our quit. Ok, here is the problem. Apparently all dippers are not created equal. You see, I dipped for 25+ years (no different then many of you) and by that I mean all day, everyday. Now to my point. I’m at day 24 of my quit and the craves, headaches, irritability, etc… are not getting better. Here is why…
I loved chewing. I did romanticize about chewing. My wife and family have always been my priority but I chewed all day. My emotions are as follows: I miss it and miss it dearly. I am depressed. IÂ’m afraid, in a funk, cannot focus, have breakdowns when alone, crave all day, I feel as though IÂ’ve lost a loved one. My thoughts are consumed with this quit. No, IÂ’m really not a pussy fellas but since leaving chew I have been experiencing emotions I didnÂ’t even know I have. I do post roll every day, I do read and read some more, the content on this site. But I have yet to read anything or see anyone post an experience or admit to experiencing the symptoms I am having. Will it go away? Is this what I have to look forward to for the rest of my life? Should I take the advice IÂ’ve read here on this site to not romanticize and hide these emotions? I know that this love affair was an illusion but my emotions are real.
Now that is my question/comments. Keep in mind also, I have very strong resolve. I chewed for myself, not to be cool or due to peer pressure and I will quit under the same premise and I do NOT regret quitting. I quit for my health, I want to see my 3 daughters grow up and have their own kids and also to grow old with my wife. I mention this to make sure you all understand that I am quit and have no doubts about it or thoughts of going back. IÂ’m 24 days into this quit and will stay the course. But, I would like to know if I am alone in these symptoms. If I am then ok, IÂ’ll get through it on my own. If someone else experienced these symptoms please post how long it lasted or if they still exist and if there is something I can do to ease the pain and depression (I really donÂ’t want to start a drug to ease the pain of quitting nic, i.e Prozac or other anti depressants). This is the main reason I signed up for this site. I love the accountability concept but posting roll is the least of my worries because I am not worried about caving. I am more worried, right now, if this fuck ass emotional roller coaster I am going through is permanent or if itÂ’ll go away somewhere around X number of days, months, or years. In other words, i know I must post roll, but posting roll doesn't make these symptoms go away, they are with me all day whether my name is on roll or not. Input anyone?????
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Things That You CAN Indeed Do Without Dip
Feel free to add
Cut the grass
Drink with the boys
Play poker
Drive to work
etc.
Shovel Snow
Work out.
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Things That You CAN Indeed Do Without Dip
Feel free to add
Cut the grass
Drink with the boys
Play poker
Drive to work
etc.
Shovel Snow
Work out.
Hunt
Fish
Watch TV
Play Xbox
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Ok quitters, I have a very serious topic/question. I’m in my 4th day being a member here and I have read here a number of times that we shouldn’t “romanticize” about our past dipping habit. We need to be positive and absolute in our quit. Ok, here is the problem. Apparently all dippers are not created equal. You see, I dipped for 25+ years (no different then many of you) and by that I mean all day, everyday. Now to my point. I’m at day 24 of my quit and the craves, headaches, irritability, etc… are not getting better. Here is why…
I loved chewing. I did romanticize about chewing. My wife and family have always been my priority but I chewed all day. My emotions are as follows: I miss it and miss it dearly. I am depressed. IÂ’m afraid, in a funk, cannot focus, have breakdowns when alone, crave all day, I feel as though IÂ’ve lost a loved one. My thoughts are consumed with this quit. No, IÂ’m really not a pussy fellas but since leaving chew I have been experiencing emotions I didnÂ’t even know I have. I do post roll every day, I do read and read some more, the content on this site. But I have yet to read anything or see anyone post an experience or admit to experiencing the symptoms I am having. Will it go away? Is this what I have to look forward to for the rest of my life? Should I take the advice IÂ’ve read here on this site to not romanticize and hide these emotions? I know that this love affair was an illusion but my emotions are real.
Now that is my question/comments. Keep in mind also, I have very strong resolve. I chewed for myself, not to be cool or due to peer pressure and I will quit under the same premise and I do NOT regret quitting. I quit for my health, I want to see my 3 daughters grow up and have their own kids and also to grow old with my wife. I mention this to make sure you all understand that I am quit and have no doubts about it or thoughts of going back. IÂ’m 24 days into this quit and will stay the course. But, I would like to know if I am alone in these symptoms. If I am then ok, IÂ’ll get through it on my own. If someone else experienced these symptoms please post how long it lasted or if they still exist and if there is something I can do to ease the pain and depression (I really donÂ’t want to start a drug to ease the pain of quitting nic, i.e Prozac or other anti depressants). This is the main reason I signed up for this site. I love the accountability concept but posting roll is the least of my worries because I am not worried about caving. I am more worried, right now, if this fuck ass emotional roller coaster I am going through is permanent or if itÂ’ll go away somewhere around X number of days, months, or years. In other words, i know I must post roll, but posting roll doesn't make these symptoms go away, they are with me all day whether my name is on roll or not. Input anyone?????
Depression is a very real part of quitting dip for some people. It hit me pretty hard right around day 75 or so. For me it was the realization that I wasn't going to be a dipper anymore. It was -- for lack of a better term -- sad. I couldn't believe that this thing that had been a part of my life for so long was NEVER coming back. This was due to the fact that I (like you) totally romanticized my addiction. It was part of my life and totally defined me. I've said it before, but I literally have people who have been in my life for 15 years now that don't know my real name... to them I'm just "chewie" and always will be.
In fact even now I don't worry about the concept of FOREVER. It's too big for me to get my head around so I don't bother. I'm past the point where I have to deal with "no tobacco today" -- I can look at a weekend, a week, even a month and not think about dip. But the concept of NEVER having a dip is still kind of frightening. Not sure what that says about me, but I know that it tells me that just cause I'm well into the Hall of Fame, I still need to be on the lookout. The bitch is there and always will be.
Seeing so many HOFers cave and come back to us proves that to me...
Back to depression. Like I said, it hit me pretty hard, but like all of my other withdrawal symptoms I thought of one thing to get me through...
Withdrawal symptoms, whether they be depression, rage, crawling/tingling jaw, etc. are conclusive PROOF that you have begun the healing process.
If you're like me, you chewed for upwards of 6000 days. Your body is PISSED at you for taking away it's nic fuel. Embrace it and realize that the depression (like all of the other symptoms before) WILL PASS. I can't tell you when but I can promise that they do.
(Note that I'm not a doctor and I know that clinical depression is a serious issue. If symptoms persist I'd suggest going to see a doc. With that being said, my depression issues were gone in a few short weeks)
Stay strong and realize this... you are NOT alone. You're in a fight, but you've got brothers and sisters fighting with you. PM me if you want to chat offline.
chewie
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Ok quitters, I have a very serious topic/question. I’m in my 4th day being a member here and I have read here a number of times that we shouldn’t “romanticize” about our past dipping habit. We need to be positive and absolute in our quit. Ok, here is the problem. Apparently all dippers are not created equal. You see, I dipped for 25+ years (no different then many of you) and by that I mean all day, everyday. Now to my point. I’m at day 24 of my quit and the craves, headaches, irritability, etc… are not getting better. Here is why…
I loved chewing. I did romanticize about chewing. My wife and family have always been my priority but I chewed all day. My emotions are as follows: I miss it and miss it dearly. I am depressed. I’m afraid, in a funk, cannot focus, have breakdowns when alone, crave all day, I feel as though I’ve lost a loved one. My thoughts are consumed with this quit. No, I’m really not a pussy fellas but since leaving chew I have been experiencing emotions I didn’t even know I have. I do post roll every day, I do read and read some more, the content on this site. But I have yet to read anything or see anyone post an experience or admit to experiencing the symptoms I am having. Will it go away? Is this what I have to look forward to for the rest of my life? Should I take the advice I’ve read here on this site to not romanticize and hide these emotions? I know that this love affair was an illusion but my emotions are real.
Now that is my question/comments. Keep in mind also, I have very strong resolve. I chewed for myself, not to be cool or due to peer pressure and I will quit under the same premise and I do NOT regret quitting. I quit for my health, I want to see my 3 daughters grow up and have their own kids and also to grow old with my wife. I mention this to make sure you all understand that I am quit and have no doubts about it or thoughts of going back. I’m 24 days into this quit and will stay the course. But, I would like to know if I am alone in these symptoms. If I am then ok, I’ll get through it on my own. If someone else experienced these symptoms please post how long it lasted or if they still exist and if there is something I can do to ease the pain and depression (I really don’t want to start a drug to ease the pain of quitting nic, i.e Prozac or other anti depressants). This is the main reason I signed up for this site. I love the accountability concept but posting roll is the least of my worries because I am not worried about caving. I am more worried, right now, if this fuck ass emotional roller coaster I am going through is permanent or if it’ll go away somewhere around X number of days, months, or years. In other words, i know I must post roll, but posting roll doesn't make these symptoms go away, they are with me all day whether my name is on roll or not. Input anyone?????
Depression is a very real part of quitting dip for some people. It hit me pretty hard right around day 75 or so. For me it was the realization that I wasn't going to be a dipper anymore. It was -- for lack of a better term -- sad. I couldn't believe that this thing that had been a part of my life for so long was NEVER coming back. This was due to the fact that I (like you) totally romanticized my addiction. It was part of my life and totally defined me. I've said it before, but I literally have people who have been in my life for 15 years now that don't know my real name... to them I'm just "chewie" and always will be.
In fact even now I don't worry about the concept of FOREVER. It's too big for me to get my head around so I don't bother. I'm past the point where I have to deal with "no tobacco today" -- I can look at a weekend, a week, even a month and not think about dip. But the concept of NEVER having a dip is still kind of frightening. Not sure what that says about me, but I know that it tells me that just cause I'm well into the Hall of Fame, I still need to be on the lookout. The bitch is there and always will be.
Seeing so many HOFers cave and come back to us proves that to me...
Back to depression. Like I said, it hit me pretty hard, but like all of my other withdrawal symptoms I thought of one thing to get me through...
Withdrawal symptoms, whether they be depression, rage, crawling/tingling jaw, etc. are conclusive PROOF that you have begun the healing process.
If you're like me, you chewed for upwards of 6000 days. Your body is PISSED at you for taking away it's nic fuel. Embrace it and realize that the depression (like all of the other symptoms before) WILL PASS. I can't tell you when but I can promise that they do.
(Note that I'm not a doctor and I know that clinical depression is a serious issue. If symptoms persist I'd suggest going to see a doc. With that being said, my depression issues were gone in a few short weeks)
Stay strong and realize this... you are NOT alone. You're in a fight, but you've got brothers and sisters fighting with you. PM me if you want to chat offline.
chewie
Hey! You bet! Me too! Probably everyone else too! You are not alone at all my friend. I am on day 25 and was just thinking how depressing this can be. I cannot think of never having another dip, but I promised not today. I will do the same thing tomorrow and the next day and it will be four weeks!! It will get better, because the vets say it will! Hang in ther and know you are not alone!!
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Adub,
I dipped for 23 years, probably alot like you. I liked to chew right up to the point where I stopped. I no longer miss it, not even a little. I had anxiety attacks when I quit. I drove myself to the hospital at one point because I thought I was having a heart attack. I had uncontrollable dip rage. I was beyond anger. I too felt the depression and loss and irritability and all the other crap you mention. Your in the fog still, just hang in and it will clear. As for the rest of it , I can un wrap your mind if you read thru.
First,
Ok, here is the problem. Apparently all dippers are not created equal.
This is a common addict rationalization, " I'm different, it's harder for me" get over it, it isn't harder for you ,and your no different than most of us. There are far far heavier users on this site than you, that have quit successfully. I chewed every second of my waking day. I thought I was a big addict until I read about guys putting a dip in to SLEEP WITH. YOU ARE AN ADDICT, telling yourself it is harder for you is an excuse to fail. This is a well documented relapse strategy, so stop believing in that, it's a lie.
My thoughts are consumed with this quit.
You are fixating on it, when you contantly think about craving and dipping and POTENTIAL side effects, your mind starts to create your reality. If the shit hits you then so be it, but try this. Next time you get a crave, acknowledge that your having it, then think about what the trigger was. Driving? computer? work? wake up? then decide on how to handle it. Take a walk, take a breath, use some fake dip, read on the site, go to chat, whatever. Then let it go. You may do this 100 times a day . There is nothing in a crave that can hurt you, emotionally or physically, fixating on it as in " I want one, I want one Iwant one" WILL make it sooo much harder. I know you can't ignore it, thats why you have to acknowledge it first, BUT then train your self to do something else. Your in a loop that you need to step out of.
miss it and miss it dearly
You don't miss the buzz, because there wasn't one anymore.
You certainly don't miss the spitters and the mess
Do you miss the hassle of going to the store at odd hours so you don't run out?
Do you miss the spills?
How bout the mouth sores and scraping the dead skin off in the morning?
Perhaps you miss the fear of cancer or anxiety about going to the dentist?
Maybe you miss spending the cash.
Maybe you miss looking like a douchebag with a lump in your lip.
You think it calmed you down? right? LIE, that feeling of calm you got from it was nothing more than getting your fix. It was removing the withdrawl symptoms. Thats it. Nicotine raises blood pressure, it elevated your heart rate. It didn't settle you down. The chilled out effect was ONLY THE REMOVAL OF THE WITHDRAWL..
Truly, there is nothing to miss, it is all a scam adub. The only thing that stuffwas good for was to keep you addicted to it.
Get this, the feelings you have now are CAUSED BY YOUR ADDICTION. If you never started, you wouldn't feel the way you do right now. Your craving the thing that created your problem. Nicotine created that feeling of loss, or something missing, or the void that you feel. DIP DOESN"T MAKE THAT GO AWAY, IT CREATED IT. Time and healing will make it go away.
On drugs,
So lemme get this straight. Your willing to ingest one of the most deadly neurotoxins known to man. Nicotine is essentially a insecticide. BUT you won't take any drugs to help you quit. I was just like you. I didn't want to take any of that shit either, however. I realized I needed some help, I went to talk to my family doctor and was prescribed ativan. It was a take as needed dose. When shit got to heavy and I was really having a hard time I could take one. I used this for about six months. It helped. I can't recommend Chantix or wellbutrin or any of that stuff, because I have no personal experience. I do know that having some meds to bring down my anxiety and irritability was huge for my own quit.
If you had cancer, I bet you would take any medication under the sun to try to beat it. What would you endure to save your life so you can meet your daughters daughters and sons. What hell would you go thru to walk your baby girls down the aisle.?Chemo?, radiation? all of it? You say your no pussy so I bet you'd do whatever you could to try to live longer. This begs the question, why won't you do whatever it takes now? Don't kid yourself, your already in the ring with this shit , it will get you eventually. Cancer , stroke, heart attack, a million different ways for nic to kill you. You should consider fighting back. Quitting is not a spectator sport, and just trying to ride it out will get you no where. I took the meds because I was going to quit no matter what the consequences are.
Dont tell me its too expensive, its cheaper than dip.
It isn't embarassing either. No less than a grown man spitting all over the place, and keeping cups of spit everywhere.
But I have yet to read anything or see anyone post an experience or admit to experiencing the symptoms I am having
You must be kidding, read more brother. Have you read the cancer and quitter stories? All the Hof Speeches? The intros? The shit in May10? It is everywhere, hell, my own intro page is loaded with this shit. I bet I made you look like the most stable guy in the world. READ READ READ READ READ.
I'll give you an abridged version of me.
23 year two can a day habit and I smoked too, but only because I couldn't chew enough to kill the withdrawls.
Quit and wound up medicated, in marriage counseling, seeing a pastorial counselor, and a shrink. Had MASSIVE anger, anxiety, depression, rage, confusion, you name it. Had to re-learn how to live my life without nicotine. Eventually was diagnosed with ADD , the nicotine was a way to self medicate. It works just like ritalin or adderall. Counseling was because like you I was coming unglued. Marriage counseling was because I was taking my quit out on my wife, and because years of chewing had done untold damage to my realationship. (ever stay up late by yourself to dip instead of going to bed with your bride) .
Little by little I pulled out of it. I posted roll daily, I read everything on this site . I still do. I posted up just like you did today when I was struggling. I hated it. I even made the same bullshit rationalizations you did. I took it a bit farther , to where I decided that life might be better if I dipped again and that all this shit wasn't worth it.
Ultimately , ALL OF IT WAS WORTH IT. All that shit your going thru disappears over time. Your going to have to re-learn how to live, relate with others, feel, and function without that poison. I can't tell you how much better it gets. I don't know you and you don't know me, but believe me when I tell you that it WILL get better, and you WILL look back and than God that you stayed on the course. The freedom you will gain and the feeling of reclaiming your life is tremendous. I would do it all again, if I had known I would have done it sooner. It's hard I know, but it can be done.
last, you dipped for more than 20 years. But call it 20 for math sake. Thats 7,300 days. You have been quit for only 24. Is it any wonder that you are still having a hard time? Patience.... you earning the tools and paying the price to earn your freedom. When will it get better? When it does. There is no magic finish line. Just keep quiting for today. It is like watching a plant grow. You can't see it happening, but then one day you look at it and think " Damn, when did that happen."
sM
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I just spent 1/2 hour with a fellow who had his tounge removed at age 27.....ORAL CANCER...he is about 50 now.
He is very hard to understand as he speaks.....well, his tounge is about 1/2 inch long so he can't pronounce words very clearly. His neck is heavily scarred and he has the remnants of a tracheotomy.
As I talked to him I thought "he must have chewed or smoked and it caught up to him" I looked at what remained of his teeth and they were pretty messed up. I knew that when I asked him about the scar he would tell me about his love for Skoal or Copenhagen his years of use and abuse and the cancer diagnosis and surgery. But most importantly he would say how he regretted every dip and would like to go back and never have that first chew, he would be so convincing that it would reinforce my quit and I could finally and totally CLOSE THE DOOR.
I did ask the question.... and he told me......ORAL CANCER......'they cut out my tounge from the bottom of my jaw, I went thru radiation and the whole thing................but....... I NEVER SMOKED OR CHEWED.
I walked away thankful for my good fortune...I have a tounge and teeth and my speech is good, in spite of my blatant disregard for my health with my tobacco use.
I tried to talk without using my tounge after I left his house and couldn't do it....well, I sounded just like him. God bless him.
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Adub,
I dipped for 23 years, probably alot like you. I liked to chew right up to the point where I stopped. I no longer miss it, not even a little. I had anxiety attacks when I quit. I drove myself to the hospital at one point because I thought I was having a heart attack. I had uncontrollable dip rage. I was beyond anger. I too felt the depression and loss and irritability and all the other crap you mention. Your in the fog still, just hang in and it will clear. As for the rest of it , I can un wrap your mind if you read thru.
First,
Ok, here is the problem. Apparently all dippers are not created equal.
This is a common addict rationalization, " I'm different, it's harder for me" get over it, it isn't harder for you ,and your no different than most of us. There are far far heavier users on this site than you, that have quit successfully. I chewed every second of my waking day. I thought I was a big addict until I read about guys putting a dip in to SLEEP WITH. YOU ARE AN ADDICT, telling yourself it is harder for you is an excuse to fail. This is a well documented relapse strategy, so stop believing in that, it's a lie.
My thoughts are consumed with this quit.
You are fixating on it, when you contantly think about craving and dipping and POTENTIAL side effects, your mind starts to create your reality. If the shit hits you then so be it, but try this. Next time you get a crave, acknowledge that your having it, then think about what the trigger was. Driving? computer? work? wake up? then decide on how to handle it. Take a walk, take a breath, use some fake dip, read on the site, go to chat, whatever. Then let it go. You may do this 100 times a day . There is nothing in a crave that can hurt you, emotionally or physically, fixating on it as in " I want one, I want one Iwant one" WILL make it sooo much harder. I know you can't ignore it, thats why you have to acknowledge it first, BUT then train your self to do something else. Your in a loop that you need to step out of.
miss it and miss it dearly
You don't miss the buzz, because there wasn't one anymore.
You certainly don't miss the spitters and the mess
Do you miss the hassle of going to the store at odd hours so you don't run out?
Do you miss the spills?
How bout the mouth sores and scraping the dead skin off in the morning?
Perhaps you miss the fear of cancer or anxiety about going to the dentist?
Maybe you miss spending the cash.
Maybe you miss looking like a douchebag with a lump in your lip.
You think it calmed you down? right? LIE, that feeling of calm you got from it was nothing more than getting your fix. It was removing the withdrawl symptoms. Thats it. Nicotine raises blood pressure, it elevated your heart rate. It didn't settle you down. The chilled out effect was ONLY THE REMOVAL OF THE WITHDRAWL..
Truly, there is nothing to miss, it is all a scam adub. The only thing that stuffwas good for was to keep you addicted to it.
Get this, the feelings you have now are CAUSED BY YOUR ADDICTION. If you never started, you wouldn't feel the way you do right now. Your craving the thing that created your problem. Nicotine created that feeling of loss, or something missing, or the void that you feel. DIP DOESN"T MAKE THAT GO AWAY, IT CREATED IT. Time and healing will make it go away.
On drugs,
So lemme get this straight. Your willing to ingest one of the most deadly neurotoxins known to man. Nicotine is essentially a insecticide. BUT you won't take any drugs to help you quit. I was just like you. I didn't want to take any of that shit either, however. I realized I needed some help, I went to talk to my family doctor and was prescribed ativan. It was a take as needed dose. When shit got to heavy and I was really having a hard time I could take one. I used this for about six months. It helped. I can't recommend Chantix or wellbutrin or any of that stuff, because I have no personal experience. I do know that having some meds to bring down my anxiety and irritability was huge for my own quit.
If you had cancer, I bet you would take any medication under the sun to try to beat it. What would you endure to save your life so you can meet your daughters daughters and sons. What hell would you go thru to walk your baby girls down the aisle.?Chemo?, radiation? all of it? You say your no pussy so I bet you'd do whatever you could to try to live longer. This begs the question, why won't you do whatever it takes now? Don't kid yourself, your already in the ring with this shit , it will get you eventually. Cancer , stroke, heart attack, a million different ways for nic to kill you. You should consider fighting back. Quitting is not a spectator sport, and just trying to ride it out will get you no where. I took the meds because I was going to quit no matter what the consequences are.
Dont tell me its too expensive, its cheaper than dip.
It isn't embarassing either. No less than a grown man spitting all over the place, and keeping cups of spit everywhere.
But I have yet to read anything or see anyone post an experience or admit to experiencing the symptoms I am having
You must be kidding, read more brother. Have you read the cancer and quitter stories? All the Hof Speeches? The intros? The shit in May10? It is everywhere, hell, my own intro page is loaded with this shit. I bet I made you look like the most stable guy in the world. READ READ READ READ READ.
I'll give you an abridged version of me.
23 year two can a day habit and I smoked too, but only because I couldn't chew enough to kill the withdrawls.
Quit and wound up medicated, in marriage counseling, seeing a pastorial counselor, and a shrink. Had MASSIVE anger, anxiety, depression, rage, confusion, you name it. Had to re-learn how to live my life without nicotine. Eventually was diagnosed with ADD , the nicotine was a way to self medicate. It works just like ritalin or adderall. Counseling was because like you I was coming unglued. Marriage counseling was because I was taking my quit out on my wife, and because years of chewing had done untold damage to my realationship. (ever stay up late by yourself to dip instead of going to bed with your bride) .
Little by little I pulled out of it. I posted roll daily, I read everything on this site . I still do. I posted up just like you did today when I was struggling. I hated it. I even made the same bullshit rationalizations you did. I took it a bit farther , to where I decided that life might be better if I dipped again and that all this shit wasn't worth it.
Ultimately , ALL OF IT WAS WORTH IT. All that shit your going thru disappears over time. Your going to have to re-learn how to live, relate with others, feel, and function without that poison. I can't tell you how much better it gets. I don't know you and you don't know me, but believe me when I tell you that it WILL get better, and you WILL look back and than God that you stayed on the course. The freedom you will gain and the feeling of reclaiming your life is tremendous. I would do it all again, if I had known I would have done it sooner. It's hard I know, but it can be done.
last, you dipped for more than 20 years. But call it 20 for math sake. Thats 7,300 days. You have been quit for only 24. Is it any wonder that you are still having a hard time? Patience.... you earning the tools and paying the price to earn your freedom. When will it get better? When it does. There is no magic finish line. Just keep quiting for today. It is like watching a plant grow. You can't see it happening, but then one day you look at it and think " Damn, when did that happen."
sM
Dayumm. that is exactly what I needed to hear. Counciling and support goes a long way in this. Thx fellas for the replies, I will take it to heart. And SM, if this depression doesn't fade soon yes, i will seek professional help. I quit for my health and right now my family is only getting half of me, the other half is dying with the nic. So if I can't get this shipped righted and soon I will ask for help. Either way, next step is to get through my Friday night. 7:40 my time and I'm here posting. How pathetic am I? Oh well, see you all in the morning for roll...
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Adub,
I dipped for 23 years, probably alot like you. I liked to chew right up to the point where I stopped. I no longer miss it, not even a little. I had anxiety attacks when I quit. I drove myself to the hospital at one point because I thought I was having a heart attack. I had uncontrollable dip rage. I was beyond anger. I too felt the depression and loss and irritability and all the other crap you mention. Your in the fog still, just hang in and it will clear. As for the rest of it , I can un wrap your mind if you read thru.
First,
Ok, here is the problem. Apparently all dippers are not created equal.
This is a common addict rationalization, " I'm different, it's harder for me" get over it, it isn't harder for you ,and your no different than most of us. There are far far heavier users on this site than you, that have quit successfully. I chewed every second of my waking day. I thought I was a big addict until I read about guys putting a dip in to SLEEP WITH. YOU ARE AN ADDICT, telling yourself it is harder for you is an excuse to fail. This is a well documented relapse strategy, so stop believing in that, it's a lie.
My thoughts are consumed with this quit.
You are fixating on it, when you contantly think about craving and dipping and POTENTIAL side effects, your mind starts to create your reality. If the shit hits you then so be it, but try this. Next time you get a crave, acknowledge that your having it, then think about what the trigger was. Driving? computer? work? wake up? then decide on how to handle it. Take a walk, take a breath, use some fake dip, read on the site, go to chat, whatever. Then let it go. You may do this 100 times a day . There is nothing in a crave that can hurt you, emotionally or physically, fixating on it as in " I want one, I want one Iwant one" WILL make it sooo much harder. I know you can't ignore it, thats why you have to acknowledge it first, BUT then train your self to do something else. Your in a loop that you need to step out of.
miss it and miss it dearly
You don't miss the buzz, because there wasn't one anymore.
You certainly don't miss the spitters and the mess
Do you miss the hassle of going to the store at odd hours so you don't run out?
Do you miss the spills?
How bout the mouth sores and scraping the dead skin off in the morning?
Perhaps you miss the fear of cancer or anxiety about going to the dentist?
Maybe you miss spending the cash.
Maybe you miss looking like a douchebag with a lump in your lip.
You think it calmed you down? right? LIE, that feeling of calm you got from it was nothing more than getting your fix. It was removing the withdrawl symptoms. Thats it. Nicotine raises blood pressure, it elevated your heart rate. It didn't settle you down. The chilled out effect was ONLY THE REMOVAL OF THE WITHDRAWL..
Truly, there is nothing to miss, it is all a scam adub. The only thing that stuffwas good for was to keep you addicted to it.
Get this, the feelings you have now are CAUSED BY YOUR ADDICTION. If you never started, you wouldn't feel the way you do right now. Your craving the thing that created your problem. Nicotine created that feeling of loss, or something missing, or the void that you feel. DIP DOESN"T MAKE THAT GO AWAY, IT CREATED IT. Time and healing will make it go away.
On drugs,
So lemme get this straight. Your willing to ingest one of the most deadly neurotoxins known to man. Nicotine is essentially a insecticide. BUT you won't take any drugs to help you quit. I was just like you. I didn't want to take any of that shit either, however. I realized I needed some help, I went to talk to my family doctor and was prescribed ativan. It was a take as needed dose. When shit got to heavy and I was really having a hard time I could take one. I used this for about six months. It helped. I can't recommend Chantix or wellbutrin or any of that stuff, because I have no personal experience. I do know that having some meds to bring down my anxiety and irritability was huge for my own quit.
If you had cancer, I bet you would take any medication under the sun to try to beat it. What would you endure to save your life so you can meet your daughters daughters and sons. What hell would you go thru to walk your baby girls down the aisle.?Chemo?, radiation? all of it? You say your no pussy so I bet you'd do whatever you could to try to live longer. This begs the question, why won't you do whatever it takes now? Don't kid yourself, your already in the ring with this shit , it will get you eventually. Cancer , stroke, heart attack, a million different ways for nic to kill you. You should consider fighting back. Quitting is not a spectator sport, and just trying to ride it out will get you no where. I took the meds because I was going to quit no matter what the consequences are.
Dont tell me its too expensive, its cheaper than dip.
It isn't embarassing either. No less than a grown man spitting all over the place, and keeping cups of spit everywhere.
But I have yet to read anything or see anyone post an experience or admit to experiencing the symptoms I am having
You must be kidding, read more brother. Have you read the cancer and quitter stories? All the Hof Speeches? The intros? The shit in May10? It is everywhere, hell, my own intro page is loaded with this shit. I bet I made you look like the most stable guy in the world. READ READ READ READ READ.
I'll give you an abridged version of me.
23 year two can a day habit and I smoked too, but only because I couldn't chew enough to kill the withdrawls.
Quit and wound up medicated, in marriage counseling, seeing a pastorial counselor, and a shrink. Had MASSIVE anger, anxiety, depression, rage, confusion, you name it. Had to re-learn how to live my life without nicotine. Eventually was diagnosed with ADD , the nicotine was a way to self medicate. It works just like ritalin or adderall. Counseling was because like you I was coming unglued. Marriage counseling was because I was taking my quit out on my wife, and because years of chewing had done untold damage to my realationship. (ever stay up late by yourself to dip instead of going to bed with your bride) .
Little by little I pulled out of it. I posted roll daily, I read everything on this site . I still do. I posted up just like you did today when I was struggling. I hated it. I even made the same bullshit rationalizations you did. I took it a bit farther , to where I decided that life might be better if I dipped again and that all this shit wasn't worth it.
Ultimately , ALL OF IT WAS WORTH IT. All that shit your going thru disappears over time. Your going to have to re-learn how to live, relate with others, feel, and function without that poison. I can't tell you how much better it gets. I don't know you and you don't know me, but believe me when I tell you that it WILL get better, and you WILL look back and than God that you stayed on the course. The freedom you will gain and the feeling of reclaiming your life is tremendous. I would do it all again, if I had known I would have done it sooner. It's hard I know, but it can be done.
last, you dipped for more than 20 years. But call it 20 for math sake. Thats 7,300 days. You have been quit for only 24. Is it any wonder that you are still having a hard time? Patience.... you earning the tools and paying the price to earn your freedom. When will it get better? When it does. There is no magic finish line. Just keep quiting for today. It is like watching a plant grow. You can't see it happening, but then one day you look at it and think " Damn, when did that happen."
sM
Dayumm. that is exactly what I needed to hear. Counciling and support goes a long way in this. Thx fellas for the replies, I will take it to heart. And SM, if this depression doesn't fade soon yes, i will seek professional help. I quit for my health and right now my family is only getting half of me, the other half is dying with the nic. So if I can't get this shipped righted and soon I will ask for help. Either way, next step is to get through my Friday night. 7:40 my time and I'm here posting. How pathetic am I? Oh well, see you all in the morning for roll...
This is what we called "terminal uniqueness" in AA. Get your shit straight or die. Very simple.
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New blog post: YoungÂ’s Chew Review
http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=359 (http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=359)
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Day 16 quitter's log book: I went to the specialist today. My dentist referred me to this specialist to do a biopsy of my lip. My dentist made this referall about six months ago. My wife found the referall about one day ago and made the appointment. I'm there and he is explaining to me how he will remove my lower lip if the tissue is cancerous and I'm having the biggest crave of my life. I feel guilty as hell for having this crave. I've all the times not to be a fuck up this is it. I owe these sixteen day's to ktc and the help of quitter's. I would not make it through times like this with out you guy's. There is alot of bullshit on this site I don't agree with. I'm not going to let that get in the way of the purpose of this group. To quit and help the next guy quit. That's it.
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Day 16 quitter's log book: I went to the specialist today. My dentist referred me to this specialist to do a biopsy of my lip. My dentist made this referall about six months ago. My wife found the referall about one day ago and made the appointment. I'm there and he is explaining to me how he will remove my lower lip if the tissue is cancerous and I'm having the biggest crave of my life. I feel guilty as hell for having this crave. I've all the times not to be a fuck up this is it. I owe these sixteen day's to ktc and the help of quitter's. I would not make it through times like this with out you guy's. There is alot of bullshit on this site I don't agree with. I'm not going to let that get in the way of the purpose of this group. To quit and help the next guy quit. That's it.
I've said a prayer that the biopsy will come back negative. When will you get the results?
We are with you brother.
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Day 16 quitter's log book: I went to the specialist today. My dentist referred me to this specialist to do a biopsy of my lip. My dentist made this referall about six months ago. My wife found the referall about one day ago and made the appointment. I'm there and he is explaining to me how he will remove my lower lip if the tissue is cancerous and I'm having the biggest crave of my life. I feel guilty as hell for having this crave. I've all the times not to be a fuck up this is it. I owe these sixteen day's to ktc and the help of quitter's. I would not make it through times like this with out you guy's. There is alot of bullshit on this site I don't agree with. I'm not going to let that get in the way of the purpose of this group. To quit and help the next guy quit. That's it.
I've said a prayer that the biopsy will come back negative. When will you get the results?
We are with you brother.
I wholeheartedly agree with MSHowell. We are with you. A prayer your way, friend. Know that you are doing the absolute best thing by keeping the crap out of your mouth and your body.
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pass this information on to your nicotine friends... http://www.ucanquit2.org/facts/gaspo/Default.aspx (http://www.ucanquit2.org/facts/gaspo/Default.aspx)
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I've read that nicotine use opens endorphin "pathways" for lack of a better term. Continued, extreme usage, causes all the pathways to open up (which the human body normally reserves for only the most extreme circumstatnces good or bad). Kinda like a slut's pussy. Then when these pathways start to feel even the slighted bit deprived they start to scream for more nicotine. Kinda like a slut screaming for cock. Which keeps the user addicted. Extended usage cause these passageways to become stuck open for a period of time, which is why an addict remains addicted even after the shit is outta his system.
I guess what I'm asking is... when will my pussy snap back into shape? Seriously, are there any clinical studies? Any links?
I know I will always be addicted mentally, but physically, when will my body stop demanding nicotine?
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I've read that nicotine use opens endorphin "pathways" for lack of a better term. Continued, extreme usage, causes all the pathways to open up (which the human body normally reserves for only the most extreme circumstatnces good or bad). Kinda like a slut's pussy. Then when these pathways start to feel even the slighted bit deprived they start to scream for more nicotine. Kinda like a slut screaming for cock. Which keeps the user addicted. Extended usage cause these passageways to become stuck open for a period of time, which is why an addict remains addicted even after the shit is outta his system.
I guess what I'm asking is... when will my pussy snap back into shape? Seriously, are there any clinical studies? Any links?
I know I will always be addicted mentally, but physically, when will my body stop demanding nicotine?
Can I nominate this post for "Words of Wisdom"? Outstanding!!! 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup'
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Day 16 quitter's log book: I went to the specialist today. My dentist referred me to this specialist to do a biopsy of my lip. My dentist made this referall about six months ago. My wife found the referall about one day ago and made the appointment. I'm there and he is explaining to me how he will remove my lower lip if the tissue is cancerous and I'm having the biggest crave of my life. I feel guilty as hell for having this crave. I've all the times not to be a fuck up this is it. I owe these sixteen day's to ktc and the help of quitter's. I would not make it through times like this with out you guy's. There is alot of bullshit on this site I don't agree with. I'm not going to let that get in the way of the purpose of this group. To quit and help the next guy quit. That's it.
I've said a prayer that the biopsy will come back negative. When will you get the results?
We are with you brother.
I wholeheartedly agree with MSHowell. We are with you. A prayer your way, friend. Know that you are doing the absolute best thing by keeping the crap out of your mouth and your body.
prayers sent.
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I've read that nicotine use opens endorphin "pathways" for lack of a better term. Continued, extreme usage, causes all the pathways to open up (which the human body normally reserves for only the most extreme circumstatnces good or bad). Kinda like a slut's pussy. Then when these pathways start to feel even the slighted bit deprived they start to scream for more nicotine. Kinda like a slut screaming for cock. Which keeps the user addicted. Extended usage cause these passageways to become stuck open for a period of time, which is why an addict remains addicted even after the shit is outta his system.Â
I guess what I'm asking is... when will my pussy snap back into shape? Seriously, are there any clinical studies? Any links?
I know I will always be addicted mentally, but physically, when will my body stop demanding nicotine?
Can I nominate this post for "Words of Wisdom"? Outstanding!!! 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup'
'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup' Seriously, I think the physical part should pass in the first 30 days, but you will get periods of intense craves off and on all the way up to HOF and beyond. The difference is over time the craves tend to not last as long and you will get better at fighting them off when they do hit. Staying close to this site is your best front line defense. You can DO this one day at a time!!!!!
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Day 16 quitter's log book: I went to the specialist today. My dentist referred me to this specialist to do a biopsy of my lip. My dentist made this referall about six months ago. My wife found the referall about one day ago and made the appointment. I'm there and he is explaining to me how he will remove my lower lip if the tissue is cancerous and I'm having the biggest crave of my life. I feel guilty as hell for having this crave. I've all the times not to be a fuck up this is it. I owe these sixteen day's to ktc and the help of quitter's. I would not make it through times like this with out you guy's. There is alot of bullshit on this site I don't agree with. I'm not going to let that get in the way of the purpose of this group. To quit and help the next guy quit. That's it.
I've said a prayer that the biopsy will come back negative. When will you get the results?
We are with you brother.
I wholeheartedly agree with MSHowell. We are with you. A prayer your way, friend. Know that you are doing the absolute best thing by keeping the crap out of your mouth and your body.
prayers sent.
Hey Jekll , My prayers also go out to you and your wife. On another note, Each day Im off the nic I continue to see things in a differant light. Being able to keep things in their proper perspective. You no exactly what im talking about. I over E.You are going to be ok bro make sure you stay close to the sorce. Mike
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Adub,
I dipped for 23 years, probably alot like you. I liked to chew right up to the point where I stopped. I no longer miss it, not even a little. I had anxiety attacks when I quit. I drove myself to the hospital at one point because I thought I was having a heart attack. I had uncontrollable dip rage. I was beyond anger. I too felt the depression and loss and irritability and all the other crap you mention. Your in the fog still, just hang in and it will clear. As for the rest of it , I can un wrap your mind if you read thru.
First,
Ok, here is the problem. Apparently all dippers are not created equal.
This is a common addict rationalization, " I'm different, it's harder for me" get over it, it isn't harder for you ,and your no different than most of us. There are far far heavier users on this site than you, that have quit successfully. I chewed every second of my waking day. I thought I was a big addict until I read about guys putting a dip in to SLEEP WITH. YOU ARE AN ADDICT, telling yourself it is harder for you is an excuse to fail. This is a well documented relapse strategy, so stop believing in that, it's a lie.
My thoughts are consumed with this quit.
You are fixating on it, when you contantly think about craving and dipping and POTENTIAL side effects, your mind starts to create your reality. If the shit hits you then so be it, but try this. Next time you get a crave, acknowledge that your having it, then think about what the trigger was. Driving? computer? work? wake up? then decide on how to handle it. Take a walk, take a breath, use some fake dip, read on the site, go to chat, whatever. Then let it go. You may do this 100 times a day . There is nothing in a crave that can hurt you, emotionally or physically, fixating on it as in " I want one, I want one Iwant one" WILL make it sooo much harder. I know you can't ignore it, thats why you have to acknowledge it first, BUT then train your self to do something else. Your in a loop that you need to step out of.
miss it and miss it dearly
You don't miss the buzz, because there wasn't one anymore.
You certainly don't miss the spitters and the mess
Do you miss the hassle of going to the store at odd hours so you don't run out?
Do you miss the spills?
How bout the mouth sores and scraping the dead skin off in the morning?
Perhaps you miss the fear of cancer or anxiety about going to the dentist?
Maybe you miss spending the cash.
Maybe you miss looking like a douchebag with a lump in your lip.
You think it calmed you down? right? LIE, that feeling of calm you got from it was nothing more than getting your fix. It was removing the withdrawl symptoms. Thats it. Nicotine raises blood pressure, it elevated your heart rate. It didn't settle you down. The chilled out effect was ONLY THE REMOVAL OF THE WITHDRAWL..
Truly, there is nothing to miss, it is all a scam adub. The only thing that stuffwas good for was to keep you addicted to it.
Get this, the feelings you have now are CAUSED BY YOUR ADDICTION. If you never started, you wouldn't feel the way you do right now. Your craving the thing that created your problem. Nicotine created that feeling of loss, or something missing, or the void that you feel. DIP DOESN"T MAKE THAT GO AWAY, IT CREATED IT. Time and healing will make it go away.
On drugs,
So lemme get this straight. Your willing to ingest one of the most deadly neurotoxins known to man. Nicotine is essentially a insecticide. BUT you won't take any drugs to help you quit. I was just like you. I didn't want to take any of that shit either, however. I realized I needed some help, I went to talk to my family doctor and was prescribed ativan. It was a take as needed dose. When shit got to heavy and I was really having a hard time I could take one. I used this for about six months. It helped. I can't recommend Chantix or wellbutrin or any of that stuff, because I have no personal experience. I do know that having some meds to bring down my anxiety and irritability was huge for my own quit.
If you had cancer, I bet you would take any medication under the sun to try to beat it. What would you endure to save your life so you can meet your daughters daughters and sons. What hell would you go thru to walk your baby girls down the aisle.?Chemo?, radiation? all of it? You say your no pussy so I bet you'd do whatever you could to try to live longer. This begs the question, why won't you do whatever it takes now? Don't kid yourself, your already in the ring with this shit , it will get you eventually. Cancer , stroke, heart attack, a million different ways for nic to kill you. You should consider fighting back. Quitting is not a spectator sport, and just trying to ride it out will get you no where. I took the meds because I was going to quit no matter what the consequences are.
Dont tell me its too expensive, its cheaper than dip.
It isn't embarassing either. No less than a grown man spitting all over the place, and keeping cups of spit everywhere.
But I have yet to read anything or see anyone post an experience or admit to experiencing the symptoms I am having
You must be kidding, read more brother. Have you read the cancer and quitter stories? All the Hof Speeches? The intros? The shit in May10? It is everywhere, hell, my own intro page is loaded with this shit. I bet I made you look like the most stable guy in the world. READ READ READ READ READ.
I'll give you an abridged version of me.
23 year two can a day habit and I smoked too, but only because I couldn't chew enough to kill the withdrawls.
Quit and wound up medicated, in marriage counseling, seeing a pastorial counselor, and a shrink. Had MASSIVE anger, anxiety, depression, rage, confusion, you name it. Had to re-learn how to live my life without nicotine. Eventually was diagnosed with ADD , the nicotine was a way to self medicate. It works just like ritalin or adderall. Counseling was because like you I was coming unglued. Marriage counseling was because I was taking my quit out on my wife, and because years of chewing had done untold damage to my realationship. (ever stay up late by yourself to dip instead of going to bed with your bride) .
Little by little I pulled out of it. I posted roll daily, I read everything on this site . I still do. I posted up just like you did today when I was struggling. I hated it. I even made the same bullshit rationalizations you did. I took it a bit farther , to where I decided that life might be better if I dipped again and that all this shit wasn't worth it.
Ultimately , ALL OF IT WAS WORTH IT. All that shit your going thru disappears over time. Your going to have to re-learn how to live, relate with others, feel, and function without that poison. I can't tell you how much better it gets. I don't know you and you don't know me, but believe me when I tell you that it WILL get better, and you WILL look back and than God that you stayed on the course. The freedom you will gain and the feeling of reclaiming your life is tremendous. I would do it all again, if I had known I would have done it sooner. It's hard I know, but it can be done.
last, you dipped for more than 20 years. But call it 20 for math sake. Thats 7,300 days. You have been quit for only 24. Is it any wonder that you are still having a hard time? Patience.... you earning the tools and paying the price to earn your freedom. When will it get better? When it does. There is no magic finish line. Just keep quiting for today. It is like watching a plant grow. You can't see it happening, but then one day you look at it and think " Damn, when did that happen."
sM
Dayumm. that is exactly what I needed to hear. Counciling and support goes a long way in this. Thx fellas for the replies, I will take it to heart. And SM, if this depression doesn't fade soon yes, i will seek professional help. I quit for my health and right now my family is only getting half of me, the other half is dying with the nic. So if I can't get this shipped righted and soon I will ask for help. Either way, next step is to get through my Friday night. 7:40 my time and I'm here posting. How pathetic am I? Oh well, see you all in the morning for roll...
This is what we called "terminal uniqueness" in AA. Get your shit straight or die. Very simple.
Hows that go Thor , half way measures availed us nothing ?
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Ok, IÂ’ll try to keep this short and not too sappy. Here is why I am writing this today. I was sitting here at home this morning (I get to work from home once a week) and had a crave. Not a normal crave but a ball busting crave that got the better of me. It was so bad I started rooting around in the garage garbage looking for an old can. WellÂ….. I found one. It was dried out and looking pretty putrid. I opened it and took a whiff. Oh, it was heaven. But then it hit me! Could I really let down the boys at KTC or worse yet, could I let down my family????? Nah, its not worth it. IÂ’ve come too far to cave now and you all have a lot to do with that.
I am 30 days into my quit and I know I wouldn’t have made it this far if not for you all (my support group) and my family. I read as much as I can here everyday. I see all the personalities, the humor, the rage, smartasses, etc… sometime I sit and crack up, other times I’m like, “whoa, easy boys, don’t get your panties in a bundle”. But I will say, when someone is in need everyone here snaps into action. I like that, and I need that. The accountability is a humongous part of why I am still quit. I don’t want the embarrassment of posting I caved. So if you are new to the site and questioning the accountability of posting roll everyday, take heart, you will need it and appreciate it as you continue on your quit journey.
Now for family. Both you guys and my family are a great support group. My family is so into this quit it is amazing (wife and 3 kids). Every morning I hear “congrats dad on another day of being quit”. This is no lie! My family knows the day I am on better then I do. My 12 year old heard me telling my wife about this site and the HOF. She heard it all, the support I’ll get and my goal of 100 days. So off she went, up stairs and got to work. All on her own she made a chain out of paper with 100 links (like you see kids make at Christmas, where you take a link off until 1 is left on Christmas day). Each link has an inspirational message for me, like “your doing great” etc… She worked on this for 2 days without me knowing. When she finished she hung it up on the railing heading up the stairs and called me up stairs. When I got to the stairs there she was, standing with a big smile and said, “I love you dad and we are all so proud of you”. Tell ya what, wasn’t a dry eye in the house (that’s the sappy part). So now I take a link off everyday and when I get to 100 I get a big surprise. This my friends is another form of accountability!
So here I am, 30 days into a solid quit and there is no looking back now. No more rooting through the garbage. I know IÂ’ll have good days and bad days with all the emotions that go with it. But I take solace in knowing I have you guys to lean on when I struggle and I also have support right here at home. Man, I am going to have an awesome HOF speech when I get there!!!
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Head Honcho 2002 Day 2 Quit
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Ok, IÂ’ll try to keep this short and not too sappy. Here is why I am writing this today. I was sitting here at home this morning (I get to work from home once a week) and had a crave. Not a normal crave but a ball busting crave that got the better of me. It was so bad I started rooting around in the garage garbage looking for an old can. WellÂ….. I found one. It was dried out and looking pretty putrid. I opened it and took a whiff. Oh, it was heaven. But then it hit me! Could I really let down the boys at KTC or worse yet, could I let down my family????? Nah, its not worth it. IÂ’ve come too far to cave now and you all have a lot to do with that.
I am 30 days into my quit and I know I wouldn’t have made it this far if not for you all (my support group) and my family. I read as much as I can here everyday. I see all the personalities, the humor, the rage, smartasses, etc… sometime I sit and crack up, other times I’m like, “whoa, easy boys, don’t get your panties in a bundle”. But I will say, when someone is in need everyone here snaps into action. I like that, and I need that. The accountability is a humongous part of why I am still quit. I don’t want the embarrassment of posting I caved. So if you are new to the site and questioning the accountability of posting roll everyday, take heart, you will need it and appreciate it as you continue on your quit journey.
Now for family. Both you guys and my family are a great support group. My family is so into this quit it is amazing (wife and 3 kids). Every morning I hear “congrats dad on another day of being quit”. This is no lie! My family knows the day I am on better then I do. My 12 year old heard me telling my wife about this site and the HOF. She heard it all, the support I’ll get and my goal of 100 days. So off she went, up stairs and got to work. All on her own she made a chain out of paper with 100 links (like you see kids make at Christmas, where you take a link off until 1 is left on Christmas day). Each link has an inspirational message for me, like “your doing great” etc… She worked on this for 2 days without me knowing. When she finished she hung it up on the railing heading up the stairs and called me up stairs. When I got to the stairs there she was, standing with a big smile and said, “I love you dad and we are all so proud of you”. Tell ya what, wasn’t a dry eye in the house (that’s the sappy part). So now I take a link off everyday and when I get to 100 I get a big surprise. This my friends is another form of accountability!
So here I am, 30 days into a solid quit and there is no looking back now. No more rooting through the garbage. I know IÂ’ll have good days and bad days with all the emotions that go with it. But I take solace in knowing I have you guys to lean on when I struggle and I also have support right here at home. Man, I am going to have an awesome HOF speech when I get there!!!
This is awesome... well done. You're well on your way!
chewie
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Ok, IÂ’ll try to keep this short and not too sappy. Here is why I am writing this today. I was sitting here at home this morning (I get to work from home once a week) and had a crave. Not a normal crave but a ball busting crave that got the better of me. It was so bad I started rooting around in the garage garbage looking for an old can. WellÂ….. I found one. It was dried out and looking pretty putrid. I opened it and took a whiff. Oh, it was heaven. But then it hit me! Could I really let down the boys at KTC or worse yet, could I let down my family????? Nah, its not worth it. IÂ’ve come too far to cave now and you all have a lot to do with that.
I am 30 days into my quit and I know I wouldn’t have made it this far if not for you all (my support group) and my family. I read as much as I can here everyday. I see all the personalities, the humor, the rage, smartasses, etc… sometime I sit and crack up, other times I’m like, “whoa, easy boys, don’t get your panties in a bundle”. But I will say, when someone is in need everyone here snaps into action. I like that, and I need that. The accountability is a humongous part of why I am still quit. I don’t want the embarrassment of posting I caved. So if you are new to the site and questioning the accountability of posting roll everyday, take heart, you will need it and appreciate it as you continue on your quit journey.
Now for family. Both you guys and my family are a great support group. My family is so into this quit it is amazing (wife and 3 kids). Every morning I hear “congrats dad on another day of being quit”. This is no lie! My family knows the day I am on better then I do. My 12 year old heard me telling my wife about this site and the HOF. She heard it all, the support I’ll get and my goal of 100 days. So off she went, up stairs and got to work. All on her own she made a chain out of paper with 100 links (like you see kids make at Christmas, where you take a link off until 1 is left on Christmas day). Each link has an inspirational message for me, like “your doing great” etc… She worked on this for 2 days without me knowing. When she finished she hung it up on the railing heading up the stairs and called me up stairs. When I got to the stairs there she was, standing with a big smile and said, “I love you dad and we are all so proud of you”. Tell ya what, wasn’t a dry eye in the house (that’s the sappy part). So now I take a link off everyday and when I get to 100 I get a big surprise. This my friends is another form of accountability!
So here I am, 30 days into a solid quit and there is no looking back now. No more rooting through the garbage. I know IÂ’ll have good days and bad days with all the emotions that go with it. But I take solace in knowing I have you guys to lean on when I struggle and I also have support right here at home. Man, I am going to have an awesome HOF speech when I get there!!!
Good for you. Don't let that little girl down!
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Any one know where in Walmart they keep the Smokey Mountain? I know when I get in there, I'm going to have to explain myself to 6 different employees what I'm looking for, the last one is probably going to be a super hot chick, so of course I'll change Smokey Mountain Chew to Magnum Rubbers...Hey!!! Maybe I can chew on those!!!
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Any one know where in Walmart they keep the Smokey Mountain? I know when I get in there, I'm going to have to explain myself to 6 different employees what I'm looking for, the last one is probably going to be a super hot chick, so of course I'll change Smokey Mountain Chew to Magnum Rubbers...Hey!!! Maybe I can chew on those!!!
Usually keep it with the real stuff. If they do not have it you can try a tobacco shop.
Not sure where you are located but Casey's gas stations here in Iowa have SMC wintergreen, mint and classic.
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Any one know where in Walmart they keep the Smokey Mountain? I know when I get in there, I'm going to have to explain myself to 6 different employees what I'm looking for, the last one is probably going to be a super hot chick, so of course I'll change Smokey Mountain Chew to Magnum Rubbers...Hey!!! Maybe I can chew on those!!!
Usually keep it with the real stuff. If they do not have it you can try a tobacco shop.
Not sure where you are located but Casey's gas stations here in Iowa have SMC wintergreen, mint and classic.
Right on thanks...I went to a smoke shop this morning and the guy had no clue what I was talking about...then I thought, why would he carry such an item? I'll give WM a try after work, if it's a no-go, I'll be near a Casey's this evening...appreciate the response!
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Any one know where in Walmart they keep the Smokey Mountain? I know when I get in there, I'm going to have to explain myself to 6 different employees what I'm looking for, the last one is probably going to be a super hot chick, so of course I'll change Smokey Mountain Chew to Magnum Rubbers...Hey!!! Maybe I can chew on those!!!
Usually keep it with the real stuff. If they do not have it you can try a tobacco shop.
Not sure where you are located but Casey's gas stations here in Iowa have SMC wintergreen, mint and classic.
Right on thanks...I went to a smoke shop this morning and the guy had no clue what I was talking about...then I thought, why would he carry such an item? I'll give WM a try after work, if it's a no-go, I'll be near a Casey's this evening...appreciate the response!
dude, i have to say that was one of the funniest ever!!!
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New blog post: Why do you tell Everyone?
http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=365 (http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=365)
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New blog post: Why do you tell Everyone?
http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=365 (http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=365)
very nice read
thanks klark
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New blog post: Why do you tell Everyone?
http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=365 (http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=365)
'Twas indeed a good read...many thanks.
I'm 13 days in, and I've told only: my doctor, my wife kids, my dad, and my direct boss. I haven't told any of the eight folks that work for me, nor any of my peers at work, nor any of my friends or neighbors outside of work (some of whom know that I dipped...most of whom probably did not know).
Why have I been less public about it?
I dunno...I guess part of me thinks that as my quit continues to be successful, why tell anyone what I used to do in case they didn't know before? (For instance, my boss had no idea...and I've carried a can in my front pocket every day in the 4+ years I've worked for him. I was shocked.) If not many people knew about the addiction...when you announce a quit...wouldn't they be like, "oh...big deal"?
Subconsciously...maybe I'm more comfortable talking about this with virtual friends who are going thru the same experiences, rather than "real" people who really don't have a damn clue what I'm going thru?
Good stuff. Now, back to work.
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"Using the power of decision gives you the capacity to get past any excuse to change any and every part of your life in an instant"
Saw this somewhere else, thought I'd post it up.
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Hello everyone, this is my first post at killthecan. I have been on this site before, just browsing and reading and it helped me quit for about a week - I did it just to prove to myself that I can. But now I am as serious as ever and got an account. I have been quit since Monday February 22nd.
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Hello everyone, this is my first post at killthecan. I have been on this site before, just browsing and reading and it helped me quit for about a week - I did it just to prove to myself that I can. But now I am as serious as ever and got an account. I have been quit since Monday February 22nd.
Good work Dude! Welcome to the site.
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Finally figured out what is going on here. Have to say thanks to Chewie for helping me get on this site with sign ons. I found my group and it's awesome. Now I have to get over my fog stage.
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New blog post: I Just DonÂ’t Get It
http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=372 (http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=372)
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OK! I am really bad at quiting I have dipped for over 20 years and I'm really not sure I want to but I know I do. If that makes any sense. I only had two dips today and was pissed at the world. I should mention I just quit drinking about 2 months ago and that was a walk in the park compared to this. I just order a roll of Bacc-off straight and I hope it gets here soon. Do you guys have any suggestions other than candy. I tried that before and it really don't help me. Thanks 'bang head' 'bang head'
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ok so I see I'm the only one thats been here for a couple of days. I'll try to come back later until then here is a good joke for you.
The Lone Ranger was ambushed and captured by an enemy Indian war party.
The Indian Chief proclaims, "So, you are the great Lone Ranger. In honour of the Harvest Festival, you will be executed in three days. But, before I kill you, I will grant you three requests. What is your first request?"
The Lone Ranger responds, "I'd like to speak to my horse."
The Chief nods and Silver is brought before the Lone Ranger, who whispers in Silver's ear and the horse gallops away. Later that evening, Silver returns with a beautiful blonde woman on his back.
As the Indian Chief watches, the blonde enters the Lone Ranger's tent and spends the night.
The next morning the Indian Chief admits he's impressed. "You have a very fine and loyal horse but I will still kill you in two days. What is your second request?"
The Lone Ranger again asks to speak to his horse. Silver is brought to him, and he again whispers in the horse's ear. As before, Silver takes off across the plains and disappears over the horizon.
Later that evening, to the Chief's surprise, Silver again returns, this time with a brunette, even more attractive than the blonde. She enters the Lone Ranger's tent and spends the night.
The following morning the Indian Chief is again impressed. "You are indeed a man of many talents but I still kill you tomorrow. "What is your last request?"
The Lone Ranger responds, "I'd like to speak to my horse....alone."
The Chief is curious but he agrees and Silver is brought to the Lone Ranger's tent.
Once they're alone, the Lone Ranger grabs Silver by both ears, looks him square in the eye and says, "Listen very carefully you dumb *** horse. For the last time . . . BRING POSSEEEE!!!!"
later
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OK! I am really bad at quiting I have dipped for over 20 years and I'm really not sure I want to but I know I do. If that makes any sense. I only had two dips today and was pissed at the world. I should mention I just quit drinking about 2 months ago and that was a walk in the park compared to this. I just order a roll of Bacc-off straight and I hope it gets here soon. Do you guys have any suggestions other than candy. I tried that before and it really don't help me. Thanks 'bang head' 'bang head'
Flush the can and grab your balls for the ride of your life!!! Try Fake dip, seeds, tea bags, but DO NOT put that shit your mouth!!! By day 3 the nic will be out of your system and the fog should start to clear by the end of the first week. Get into chat when you have craves and we will talk you down. BUT we can't help you if you are still stuffing that crap in your mouth!!! The choice is yours!!! I hope you make the right choice and flush that can NOW!!!
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The biggest problem I have is I am a truck driver and it gets boring out there on the road. There will not be any support groups there thats why I am here now I need something to get me through till my fake dip gets here. And I don't know if thats going to work yet. No candy. And I like sunflower seeds but that really dont kill the craving. And I know what you mean about the fog. WOW what the hell is that My head was weird today?
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Oh yeah I thought about tea bags and my wife laughed at me. Does that really help?
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Oh yeah I thought about tea bags and my wife laughed at me. Does that really help?
There are a few members that have gone the tea bag route with some success. ANYTHING to keep you away from the real stuff!
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I'm gnawing on some Hooch Spitfire right now. Pretty tasty and gives a burn. I bought a sampler pack and all of the flavors are good to me. I would recommend; and it only took 3-4 days shipping to New England. peace
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I'm gnawing on some Hooch Spitfire right now. Pretty tasty and gives a burn. I bought a sampler pack and all of the flavors are good to me. I would recommend; and it only took 3-4 days shipping to New England. peace
I have only gotten the wintergreen and classic. I may have to go for some spitfire next round.
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I'm gnawing on some Hooch Spitfire right now. Pretty tasty and gives a burn. I bought a sampler pack and all of the flavors are good to me. I would recommend; and it only took 3-4 days shipping to New England. peace
I have only gotten the wintergreen and classic. I may have to go for some spitfire next round.
I'm on day 723 still use plain old cotton balls. The ones from Walgreens are the best, in case you're wondering.
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Do you soak the cotton ballz in anything? 'Crazy'
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folgers coffee grounds has been working as suitable shity replacement for me. It has the packability of chew and will not dissolve quickly, the grit is most like copenhagen. I chewed kodiak so for me it's only a tolerable TEMPORARY solution to the needs of the mouth
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The biggest problem I have is I am a truck driver and it gets boring out there on the road. There will not be any support groups there thats why I am here now I need something to get me through till my fake dip gets here. And I don't know if thats going to work yet. No candy. And I like sunflower seeds but that really dont kill the craving. And I know what you mean about the fog. WOW what the hell is that My head was weird today?
Huff,
the truck will go with or without dip, and so will you. Cutting back is only going to put you in a long slow withdrawl. do it like a band aid and rip it off quick. Three days and then it is out of your system. If you have access to a phone you have access to support. You can do this.
sm
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New blog post: How $5 Saved My Quit
http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=377 (http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=377)
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I'm gnawing on some Hooch Spitfire right now. Pretty tasty and gives a burn. I bought a sampler pack and all of the flavors are good to me. I would recommend; and it only took 3-4 days shipping to New England. peace
I have only gotten the wintergreen and classic. I may have to go for some spitfire next round.
I'm on day 723 still use plain old cotton balls. The ones from Walgreens are the best, in case you're wondering.
Mint Snuff. Com, have good natural product and give you clean breath and the mint has a little bite to it...
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Question: My quit begins on Thursday (taking Friday off work) and will spend the next 72 hours doing anything but dipping. My wife is planning to leave town with my son for three days while I begin my quit. Is this a good idea or a bad idea? Will I need her around? Will I be so sick that I can't even function?
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Question: My quit begins on Thursday (taking Friday off work) and will spend the next 72 hours doing anything but dipping. My wife is planning to leave town with my son for three days while I begin my quit. Is this a good idea or a bad idea? Will I need her around? Will I be so sick that I can't even function?
One of the bad things about this site is that it sometimes makes the quit suck sound like the second coming of the black death. Fricking pansies. A bad case of influencsa (the flu) will make the suck seem like no more than simple heartburn.
You will be able to function just fine. What you can expect is to be in a fog, meaning that you will not be able to think clearly for more than a few seconds at a a time. You will not be able to concentrate. You may get headaches, stomach aches, general body aches, nervousness, shakes, blurred vision, and constipation. People rarely get ALL of the above and your results may vary. For me, it was headaches and constipation.
Plan your 72 hour weekend to work on something that takes lots of manual labor but little concentration. Til the garden, mow, seed and fertilize the yard, wash the cars, dig a koy pond, fill in a koy pond, get the idea? Just make sure you drink lots of water and have lots of nibbly stuff to put in your mouth when your brain tries to tell you that you "need" dip. Just eat a pretzel or some sunflower seeds and the dip crave goes away pretty fast. Keep in mind, the more salty the snack, the more water you need to drink to avoid the worse headaches.
One last thing, keep reminding yourself that tobacco makes EVERYTHING WORSE and it makes you too stupid to realise that it is making EVERYTHING WORSE. The suck you will feel is just your brain starting to wake up from it's stupidity and realizing how much the tobacco was making EVERYTHING WORSE.
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Thanks. Got some hooch on Monday and have cut my intake to three dips a day. I used to have a dip in my mouth 10-12 hours a day. The Hooch is pretty damn good, but I can definitely feel the fog when I go 4 hours without the nic. Pretty determined and excited to quit.
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Thanks. Got some hooch on Monday and have cut my intake to three dips a day. I used to have a dip in my mouth 10-12 hours a day. The Hooch is pretty damn good, but I can definitely feel the fog when I go 4 hours without the nic. Pretty determined and excited to quit.
There is only 1 way to be quit and that is to quit. Dump the shit out and join us. What the hell are you waiting on...the last perfect dip?.....brother, there is not a last perfect dip, ever. I just hope that last one you take is not the one that triggers cancer. it has to start somewhere.
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Thanks. Got some hooch on Monday and have cut my intake to three dips a day. I used to have a dip in my mouth 10-12 hours a day. The Hooch is pretty damn good, but I can definitely feel the fog when I go 4 hours without the nic. Pretty determined and excited to quit.
"determined and excited to quit"
Then why are you still bowing down to the can of death 3 times a day?
Cut the damned cord already.
Hunker down and get the job done.
We can help.
YOU must quit first.
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Thanks. Got some hooch on Monday and have cut my intake to three dips a day. I used to have a dip in my mouth 10-12 hours a day. The Hooch is pretty damn good, but I can definitely feel the fog when I go 4 hours without the nic. Pretty determined and excited to quit.
Just do it. Why are drawing it out? It won't work. We've all been there. You'll put off that 'final day' every time. Tapering off the real shit never works. Grow a pair and flush all the real dip right now! Just use the Hooch.
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Question: My quit begins on Thursday (taking Friday off work) and will spend the next 72 hours doing anything but dipping. My wife is planning to leave town with my son for three days while I begin my quit. Is this a good idea or a bad idea? Will I need her around? Will I be so sick that I can't even function?
Looks like your plan for the first weekend is similar to mine...I took a day off on Friday (Monday was a holiday) so that I'd have 96 hours to get over the initial hump before going back into work.
Regarding your wife and kids...I personally wanted mine around for support. Even though I was an insufferable bastard...knowing that they were watching me supporting me helped keep me from saddling up heading to the c-store. Your mileage may vary.
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Question: My quit begins on Thursday (taking Friday off work) and will spend the next 72 hours doing anything but dipping. My wife is planning to leave town with my son for three days while I begin my quit. Is this a good idea or a bad idea? Will I need her around? Will I be so sick that I can't even function?
Looks like your plan for the first weekend is similar to mine...I took a day off on Friday (Monday was a holiday) so that I'd have 96 hours to get over the initial hump before going back into work.
Regarding your wife and kids...I personally wanted mine around for support. Even though I was an insufferable bastard...knowing that they were watching me supporting me helped keep me from saddling up heading to the c-store. Your mileage may vary.
I wanted to be around people but at the same time was in such bad shape that needed to be left alone.
The good news is you can come here and let loose... we know what you're going through!
chewie
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Having support during a stressful time is always good, but remember you are quitting for YOU not anyone else!!! Saving yourself is good for the family but they can't do it for you --- YOU are the captain of that ship. Stay strong and believe in yourself that YOU CAN DO THIS. I am on day 33 of freedom after being a Cope user for 40 years so yes it is a challenge, but one day at a time. 'Remshot' 'Popcorn'
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hey y'all.
It is 5:00 am here in Clemson, south carolina. I am new to this site and I have absolutely no idea how to operate or even if i am posting correctly. I have been a dipper for a few years, now in my Junior year in college, at 5:00 am on a thursday morning, I have decided I have had enough. My dipping started in high school and got progressively worse. I dip the most when I study, as I am doing now at 5:00 am, and when I drive, especially on my long road trips back home to VA. I have always wanted to quit, but always had that "nah, cancer wont happen to me attitude". The first big motivator in my recent reason to quit is for myself. The test I am studying for now is biochemistry, and ironically, we are studying about diseases and how their causes, and we talked about how nicotine and tobacco cause cancer. I must say, my heart sank in that lecture hall. I have a bad addiction, I dip a ton, more so now than ever because I have been studying more now than ever. I just took my last dip about 20 minutes ago, and emptied out my can in the trash-can. I know I have the mental ability to do this, I will just need some help, because the environment I live in is not going to provide me with the support I will need.
Thanks yall,
Patrick
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And an interesting fact that my professor told us in class. There was a study done on mutations and tobacco users. Tobacco users have 30,000 more mutations in their DNA than non tobacco users.
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And an interesting fact that my professor told us in class. There was a study done on mutations and tobacco users. Tobacco users have 30,000 more mutations in their DNA than non tobacco users.
Hey Clemsontiger........you are in my backyard. Check your in-box (upper right) for a PM.
You'll be a member of June 2010.....head over to the quit groups....have a look around and post roll.
Again...check your in-box and shoot me a message.
Cheers
Hydro
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And an interesting fact that my professor told us in class. There was a study done on mutations and tobacco users. Tobacco users have 30,000 more mutations in their DNA than non tobacco users.
Hey Clemsontiger........you are in my backyard. Check your in-box (upper right) for a PM.
You'll be a member of June 2010.....head over to the quit groups....have a look around and post roll.
Again...check your in-box and shoot me a message.
Cheers
Hydro
Clemsontiger 89,
First off your team sucks! Now get your ass over to roll call and begin quit, stay quit and start calling me names. It is so fun to vent here. There are a bunch of merciless a-holes in here that know what we are going through.
Postman HOF June '10
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DodgeVol, you started this and many have offered advice and by your response, zero, it looks like you are really taking this serious.
Today is the day, are you quit.
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Quit ahead of schedule. Was going to quit after my meeting this morning, but what the hell. Very lightheaded this morning, but doing ok. Someone needs to do the math and tell me when i will hit 100 days. Quit last night at 8pm.
I have a feeling I will be "owning" this board in about 24hrs. All apologies.
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Quit ahead of schedule. Was going to quit after my meeting this morning, but what the hell. Very lightheaded this morning, but doing ok. Someone needs to do the math and tell me when i will hit 100 days. Quit last night at 8pm.
I have a feeling I will be "owning" this board in about 24hrs. All apologies.
If you quit last night, that was day 1 and today is day 2. You will join the June quit group. Head over there and post roll with them, here's how. (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50)
You will hit 100 after you post roll call 100 times that you quit for 1 day.
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I created a new page on KTC that will list ingredients of smokeless alternatives: http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/ingredients.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/ingredients.asp)
Please check it out and send in any info that you may have that's not listed.
Thanks!
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New blog post: What More Proof Do You Need?
http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=387 (http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=387)
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New blog post: Let Someone Else Pick You Up
http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=375 (http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=375)
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New blog post: Reuters Article Talks About Surge In Usage
http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=394 (http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=394)
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Quit yet ?
What are you waiting for ?
Cancer?
Get ta quittin' !!
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Quit yet ?
What are you waiting for ?
Cancer?
Get ta quittin' !!
werd... couldn't have said it better myself odt!
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Quit yet ?
What are you waiting for ?
Cancer?
Get ta quittin' !!
werd... couldn't have said it better myself odt!
THANKS TO YA'LL for the SUPPORT... Back on the road @ 30
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Quit yet ?
What are you waiting for ?
Cancer?
Get ta quittin' !!
werd... couldn't have said it better myself odt!
THANKS TO YA'LL for the SUPPORT... Back on the road @ 30
Damn goo to have you back Ray... can't even tell you.
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Don't be a fool on this April 1st !!
BE QUIT !!!
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Don't be a fool on this April 1st !!
BE QUIT !!!
Agreed.
Also, don't FOOL yourself into thinking that cancer can't happen to you... it CAN.
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Don't be a fool on this April 1st !!
BE QUIT !!!
Agreed.
Also, don't FOOL yourself into thinking that cancer can't happen to you... it CAN.
Question:
Does a quit count if I am still on the nic gum? or do you start counting when Nic free?
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Don't be a fool on this April 1st !!
BE QUIT !!!
Agreed.
Also, don't FOOL yourself into thinking that cancer can't happen to you... it CAN.
Hey, JB. A good place to go on this (I think), is to go introduce yourself to the site. There is a forum for these posts here:
index.php?showforum=25 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=25)
Some people use this area to post an introduction, and I and some also use it as a sort of journal of their quit to remind them later what it was like, what they are learning, etc (...and why I only want to do this once!).
Once you get up and running you should also post questions like this in your quit group, which is the same as mine, June, where you posted earlier. Anyway, I already kind of put my two cents in on this in June and you should definitely get further opinions, especially from the vets.
Post up an introduction, and ask the question there, I'd say.
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Don't be a fool on this April 1st !!
BE QUIT !!!
Agreed.
Also, don't FOOL yourself into thinking that cancer can't happen to you... it CAN.
Question:
Does a quit count if I am still on the nic gum? or do you start counting when Nic free?
always a great debate on that one but as long as you use the nic gum exactly as the directions say you can post. I say spit the fucking gum out and man up with 99.9% of they guys here that went 100% cold turkey. I went from 2 cans a day to zero in 1 second flat.
Using nic gum will only pro long the suck, man up and get clean.
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Don't be a fool on this April 1st !!
BE QUIT !!!
Agreed.
Also, don't FOOL yourself into thinking that cancer can't happen to you... it CAN.
Hey, JB. A good place to go on this (I think), is to go introduce yourself to the site. There is a forum for these posts here:
index.php?showforum=25 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=25)
Some people use this area to post an introduction, and I and some also use it as a sort of journal of their quit to remind them later what it was like, what they are learning, etc (...and why I only want to do this once!).
Once you get up and running you should also post questions like this in your quit group, which is the same as mine, June, where you posted earlier. Anyway, I already kind of put my two cents in on this in June and you should definitely get further opinions, especially from the vets.
Post up an introduction, and ask the question there, I'd say.
thanks
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New blog post: They Said It
http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=397 (http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=397)
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Don't be a fool on this April 1st !!
BE QUIT !!!
Agreed.
Also, don't FOOL yourself into thinking that cancer can't happen to you... it CAN.
Hey, JB. A good place to go on this (I think), is to go introduce yourself to the site. There is a forum for these posts here:
index.php?showforum=25 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=25)
Some people use this area to post an introduction, and I and some also use it as a sort of journal of their quit to remind them later what it was like, what they are learning, etc (...and why I only want to do this once!).
Once you get up and running you should also post questions like this in your quit group, which is the same as mine, June, where you posted earlier. Anyway, I already kind of put my two cents in on this in June and you should definitely get further opinions, especially from the vets.
Post up an introduction, and ask the question there, I'd say.
thanks
souptonuts - 112 - I got straightened out one time, too. Be quit!
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Putting gas....got the signs out, "Camel Dip". So I guess now Joe Camel will be packing a fatty. Death-dealing fucks.
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Putting gas....got the signs out, "Camel Dip". So I guess now Joe Camel will be packing a fatty. Death-dealing fucks.
No shit? I remember I thought I was cool smokin camels.....collected the bucks and everything. Now the only thing I like about a camel is their toes. 'archer'
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Putting gas....got the signs out, "Camel Dip". So I guess now Joe Camel will be packing a fatty. Death-dealing fucks.
No shit? I remember I thought I was cool smokin camels.....collected the bucks and everything. Now the only thing I like about a camel is their toes. 'archer'
Sunday, I played golf with a guy that had RedMan long cut in a little round tin. He said they are selling it for $1.49 in Illinois. Fucking pricks!
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Putting gas....got the signs out, "Camel Dip". So I guess now Joe Camel will be packing a fatty. Death-dealing fucks.
No shit? I remember I thought I was cool smokin camels.....collected the bucks and everything. Now the only thing I like about a camel is their toes. 'archer'
Sunday, I played golf with a guy that had RedMan long cut in a little round tin. He said they are selling it for $1.49 in Illinois. Fucking pricks!
Nice work resisting that shit with someone chewing in your face for 18 holes of golf Volp!!!
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Putting gas....got the signs out, "Camel Dip". So I guess now Joe Camel will be packing a fatty. Death-dealing fucks.
No shit? I remember I thought I was cool smokin camels.....collected the bucks and everything. Now the only thing I like about a camel is their toes. 'archer'
Sunday, I played golf with a guy that had RedMan long cut in a little round tin. He said they are selling it for $1.49 in Illinois. Fucking pricks!
Nice work resisting that shit with someone chewing in your face for 18 holes of golf Volp!!!
My quit is strong like bull right now Kdip, I was just pissed that one of my favorite old leaf brands started selling shit in a can.
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Is this where I would post general quit related questions?
For nearly as long as I've been preoccupied with nicotine I've also been preoccupied with health (go figure), I'm a little worried about post quit weight gain.
I would like hear the experiences of some regulars, Was weight gain substantial? Could you keep it in check with regular exercise? etc?
~cheers
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Is this where I would post general quit related questions?
For nearly as long as I've been preoccupied with nicotine I've also been preoccupied with health (go figure), I'm a little worried about post quit weight gain.
I would like hear the experiences of some regulars, Was weight gain substantial? Could you keep it in check with regular exercise? etc?
~cheers
Yes... perfect place for general quit questions.
I can only speak from personal experience... I gained about 30 lbs or so. Now that's not ALL quit weight, but some really bad eating habits, the fact that I had a kid 53 days prior to my quit and let my self go to shit. Had I kicked my ass back into gear I don't think it would have been nearly that significant.
That being said, weight gain is NOTHING compared to the damage I was doing to my body by stuffing my lip with chew all day every day.
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This is probably a dumb question, but after 86 days here, I don`t know! Why is the time of posting always messed up? It has never been right that I know of! Just curious.
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This is probably a dumb question, but after 86 days here, I don`t know! Why is the time of posting always messed up? It has never been right that I know of! Just curious.
My controls, board settings, time zone.
;)
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This is probably a dumb question, but after 86 days here, I don`t know! Why is the time of posting always messed up? It has never been right that I know of! Just curious.
I would say probably time zone
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Is this where I would post general quit related questions?
For nearly as long as I've been preoccupied with nicotine I've also been preoccupied with health (go figure), I'm a little worried about post quit weight gain.Â
I would like hear the experiences of some regulars, Was weight gain substantial? Could you keep it in check with regular exercise? etc?
~cheers
Yes... perfect place for general quit questions.
I can only speak from personal experience... I gained about 30 lbs or so. Now that's not ALL quit weight, but some really bad eating habits, the fact that I had a kid 53 days prior to my quit and let my self go to shit. Had I kicked my ass back into gear I don't think it would have been nearly that significant.
That being said, weight gain is NOTHING compared to the damage I was doing to my body by stuffing my lip with chew all day every day.
I was one of those skinny fuckers that couldn't put on weight to save my life. I am in excellent physical shape and very active.
When I quit, I put on 10 lbs of muscle in about 40 days and for me that is something I could not do while I was dipping.
Your metabolism will definitely change, the important thing is not to replace your dip habit with an eating habit.
Start an exercise program that you will stay with and create good eating habits and you will be in great shape.
Hope that helps
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Is this where I would post general quit related questions?
For nearly as long as I've been preoccupied with nicotine I've also been preoccupied with health (go figure), I'm a little worried about post quit weight gain.Â
I would like hear the experiences of some regulars, Was weight gain substantial? Could you keep it in check with regular exercise? etc?
~cheers
Yes... perfect place for general quit questions.
I can only speak from personal experience... I gained about 30 lbs or so. Now that's not ALL quit weight, but some really bad eating habits, the fact that I had a kid 53 days prior to my quit and let my self go to shit. Had I kicked my ass back into gear I don't think it would have been nearly that significant.
That being said, weight gain is NOTHING compared to the damage I was doing to my body by stuffing my lip with chew all day every day.
I was one of those skinny fuckers that couldn't put on weight to save my life. I am in excellent physical shape and very active.
When I quit, I put on 10 lbs of muscle in about 40 days and for me that is something I could not do while I was dipping.
Your metabolism will definitely change, the important thing is not to replace your dip habit with an eating habit.
Start an exercise program that you will stay with and create good eating habits and you will be in great shape.
Hope that helps
Bragger.
:P
I had already been in a weight gain funk prior to my quit. My weight has always fluctuated wildly, depending on my general "give-a-shit" level. Since college, I've been as light as 197, and as heavy as 265. Last May, I was around 210...this New Year's, I was around 235. Subconsciously, I think quitting in February gave me an excuse to eat like crazy, drink a lot of beer, and push myself up JUST shy of 250.
I'm starting to fight back now...have worked out 3 of the last 4 nights trying to eat much better. As was mentioned earlier, I'd much rather deal with dangerously-snug pants for awhile than cancer.
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Is this where I would post general quit related questions?
For nearly as long as I've been preoccupied with nicotine I've also been preoccupied with health (go figure), I'm a little worried about post quit weight gain.Â
I would like hear the experiences of some regulars, Was weight gain substantial? Could you keep it in check with regular exercise? etc?
~cheers
Yes... perfect place for general quit questions.
I can only speak from personal experience... I gained about 30 lbs or so. Now that's not ALL quit weight, but some really bad eating habits, the fact that I had a kid 53 days prior to my quit and let my self go to shit. Had I kicked my ass back into gear I don't think it would have been nearly that significant.
That being said, weight gain is NOTHING compared to the damage I was doing to my body by stuffing my lip with chew all day every day.
I was one of those skinny fuckers that couldn't put on weight to save my life. I am in excellent physical shape and very active.
When I quit, I put on 10 lbs of muscle in about 40 days and for me that is something I could not do while I was dipping.
Your metabolism will definitely change, the important thing is not to replace your dip habit with an eating habit.
Start an exercise program that you will stay with and create good eating habits and you will be in great shape.
Hope that helps
Bragger.
:P
I had already been in a weight gain funk prior to my quit. My weight has always fluctuated wildly, depending on my general "give-a-shit" level. Since college, I've been as light as 197, and as heavy as 265. Last May, I was around 210...this New Year's, I was around 235. Subconsciously, I think quitting in February gave me an excuse to eat like crazy, drink a lot of beer, and push myself up JUST shy of 250.
I'm starting to fight back now...have worked out 3 of the last 4 nights trying to eat much better. As was mentioned earlier, I'd much rather deal with dangerously-snug pants for awhile than cancer.
worry about your quit and your quit only right now. Do not deprive yourself of anything else you want right now. If you want a big mac, go get one.
After a while, 100 days or so, then you can start thinking about loosing weight.
I do recommend exercisig. It will make you feel much better.
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Putting gas....got the signs out, "Camel Dip". So I guess now Joe Camel will be packing a fatty. Death-dealing fucks.
No shit? I remember I thought I was cool smokin camels.....collected the bucks and everything. Now the only thing I like about a camel is their toes. 'archer'
Sunday, I played golf with a guy that had RedMan long cut in a little round tin. He said they are selling it for $1.49 in Illinois. Fucking pricks!
They originally sold this in 90 or 91 (when I first started).
I remember loading up on Red Man Snuff - Wintergreen when it was promo priced. It was only around for a few years though.
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Is this where I would post general quit related questions?
For nearly as long as I've been preoccupied with nicotine I've also been preoccupied with health (go figure), I'm a little worried about post quit weight gain.Â
I would like hear the experiences of some regulars, Was weight gain substantial? Could you keep it in check with regular exercise? etc?
~cheers
Yes... perfect place for general quit questions.
I can only speak from personal experience... I gained about 30 lbs or so. Now that's not ALL quit weight, but some really bad eating habits, the fact that I had a kid 53 days prior to my quit and let my self go to shit. Had I kicked my ass back into gear I don't think it would have been nearly that significant.
That being said, weight gain is NOTHING compared to the damage I was doing to my body by stuffing my lip with chew all day every day.
I was one of those skinny fuckers that couldn't put on weight to save my life. I am in excellent physical shape and very active.
When I quit, I put on 10 lbs of muscle in about 40 days and for me that is something I could not do while I was dipping.
Your metabolism will definitely change, the important thing is not to replace your dip habit with an eating habit.
Start an exercise program that you will stay with and create good eating habits and you will be in great shape.
Hope that helps
Bragger.
:P
I had already been in a weight gain funk prior to my quit. My weight has always fluctuated wildly, depending on my general "give-a-shit" level. Since college, I've been as light as 197, and as heavy as 265. Last May, I was around 210...this New Year's, I was around 235. Subconsciously, I think quitting in February gave me an excuse to eat like crazy, drink a lot of beer, and push myself up JUST shy of 250.
I'm starting to fight back now...have worked out 3 of the last 4 nights trying to eat much better. As was mentioned earlier, I'd much rather deal with dangerously-snug pants for awhile than cancer.
worry about your quit and your quit only right now. Do not deprive yourself of anything else you want right now. If you want a big mac, go get one.
After a while, 100 days or so, then you can start thinking about loosing weight.
I do recommend exercisig. It will make you feel much better.
Thanks for the feedback guys. Though it doesn't have any impact on my decision to quit nor my fortitude for that matter I just worry that I'll experience an (excessive) uncontrollable change in metabolism. That said I guess I shouldn't care one way or the other if it's uncontrollable anyway. I'm an avid exerciser and immediately noticed an increase of endurance around day 2 - 3, makes me wonder if nico in the blood effects oxygen uptake.
I've also found that exercise is a bit of an anti trigger in a sense. That is, dipping is the last thing I desire when I'm exercising hard so naturally exercising has become a bit of a quit crutch for me. If you could call exercise a crutch.
Anyway thanks for the support.
~cheers
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Hi dip peeps! I'm a little disturbed. Let me just throw this out there. I've been dipping every day for about 12 years. In the last six months to a year I seem to of gotten pretty intollerant to a lot of different kinds of carbohydrates. Really bad gas ect. I always wondered if it had something to do with dipping. I added snus to my repetoir as well in the last year because I could sneak that at work. I started to wonder what swallowing that juice was doing to my gut... and the bacteria in the intestine etc.
We'll I quit last week. Today is day 8. I have quit before a few years ago and experienced some irregularity and or diareah etc.
This time its a little weird. Starting on about day 5 I have been having non stop diareah.. but its very weird. It does not smell like shit. Not sure what it smells like but its like whitish oily kind of sludge. It's really nasty stuff.
I'd be really conserned and off to the doctor emediately if I didn't just quit. Has anything like this happened to anyone when they quit?
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Hi dip peeps! I'm a little disturbed. Let me just throw this out there. I've been dipping every day for about 12 years. In the last six months to a year I seem to of gotten pretty intollerant to a lot of different kinds of carbohydrates. Really bad gas ect. I always wondered if it had something to do with dipping. I added snus to my repetoir as well in the last year because I could sneak that at work. I started to wonder what swallowing that juice was doing to my gut... and the bacteria in the intestine etc.
We'll I quit last week. Today is day 8. I have quit before a few years ago and experienced some irregularity and or diareah etc.
This time its a little weird. Starting on about day 5 I have been having non stop diareah.. but its very weird. It does not smell like shit. Not sure what it smells like but its like whitish oily kind of sludge. It's really nasty stuff.
I'd be really conserned and off to the doctor emediately if I didn't just quit. Has anything like this happened to anyone when they quit?
I didn't have this particular issue, but I can tell you that my digestion was all kinds of fucked up for quite a while after I quit. I had GERD prior to my quit and things actually got much WORSE after I quit. After a while though I got to a point where I didn't even need to take my GERD meds.
There's nothing wrong with going to see a doc if you're worried, but in all likelihood it's nothing more than "quit shits".
chewie
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Hi dip peeps! I'm a little disturbed. Let me just throw this out there. I've been dipping every day for about 12 years. In the last six months to a year I seem to of gotten pretty intollerant to a lot of different kinds of carbohydrates. Really bad gas ect. I always wondered if it had something to do with dipping. I added snus to my repetoir as well in the last year because I could sneak that at work. I started to wonder what swallowing that juice was doing to my gut... and the bacteria in the intestine etc.
We'll I quit last week. Today is day 8. I have quit before a few years ago and experienced some irregularity and or diareah etc.
This time its a little weird. Starting on about day 5 I have been having non stop diareah.. but its very weird. It does not smell like shit. Not sure what it smells like but its like whitish oily kind of sludge. It's really nasty stuff.
I'd be really conserned and off to the doctor emediately if I didn't just quit. Has anything like this happened to anyone when they quit?
I didn't have this particular issue, but I can tell you that my digestion was all kinds of fucked up for quite a while after I quit. I had GERD prior to my quit and things actually got much WORSE after I quit. After a while though I got to a point where I didn't even need to take my GERD meds.
There's nothing wrong with going to see a doc if you're worried, but in all likelihood it's nothing more than "quit shits".
chewie
Thanks for the feedback. Somethings up. Hopefully it will all work itself out. I'll give it more time. I'm not the only one to quit and then something comes up where you are like.. "great I quit and now i have cancer!" Scary! But I didn't really need the scare at this point. I could of used a nice cancer scare when I was dipping. Thats for sure. I like the term "quit shits"!
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I was diagnosed w/GERD too. As well as Tinnitus TMJ all w/in a 3 month period. I thought I was dying. I used to wake up in the middle of the night w/such bad reflux I thought I was giving birth to a fuckingi baby calf thru my throat...still gets bad, but not as bad w/out the stress level.
Got a CT-Scan to reveal I had a wicked fucking sinus infection, which I still have today. So w/all these things going on as well as the arrival of my first child a absess tooth that had me freakin' out, needless to say, I started having anxiety attacks had to get on some anti-depressants...
I've since been off those, but god damn, most of this more is a result of me dipping. Stress does FUCKED UP things to your body, take it from me....
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Big Tobacco Bullshit (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36564107/ns/health-kids_and_parenting/)
Chewie, I am sure that you've already reported on this one...but in case you haven't. I ran across this on MSN today.
Pisses me off to no end.
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Big Tobacco Bullshit (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36564107/ns/health-kids_and_parenting/)
Chewie, I am sure that you've already reported on this one...but in case you haven't. I ran across this on MSN today.
Pisses me off to no end.
Wow... actually hadn't seen that one yet.
Fuckers.
'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head'
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Big Tobacco Bullshit (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36564107/ns/health-kids_and_parenting/)
Chewie, I am sure that you've already reported on this one...but in case you haven't. I ran across this on MSN today.
Pisses me off to no end.
Wow... actually hadn't seen that one yet.
Fuckers.
'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head'
The crazy part about this disease is that I completely agree with you guys that this mint idea is awefull. But.. a month ago.. I would of been pretty pumped to hear these were coming out. :(
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Day 3 my fucking jaw is throbbing. Could be the TMJ and/or sinus infection I have continually, but I'm banking it's on nic withdrawal. I remember one time I tried to quit after a few days my jaw started throbbing like this.
So...as I am well aware from past experiences of dealing with this particular symptom, I know that one simple dip will kill this pain. However, instead of alleviating this ongoing, throbbing, annoying slow pulsating pain in my jaw, I'm going to sit here and take it.
This fucking cunt of a request by my stupid jaw is going to have to sack up because I will not deliver what it's crying out for. So fuck you jaw, suck it up, your mind is so far it's not complaining. Hell even your taste buds haven't even chimed in yet, but you gotta be "that guy" don't you?
So when you get done with your little throbbing fit, please feel free to go fuck yourself as I will soon tell your friends taste buds mind as they too will not be getting what you so painfully keep reminding me of what you want. I'll keep feeding you lemon drops until you redirect your feeble mind frames to eventually come to be addicted to. Because, well, when's the last time you saw a PSA on television w/a man w/half a jaw wishing he had never put that first lemon drop in his mouth? That's right jaw, never. So unless you want to be surgically removed from my face, shut the fuck up suck on this lemon drop you little bitch.
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Day 3 my fucking jaw is throbbing. Could be the TMJ and/or sinus infection I have continually, but I'm banking it's on nic withdrawal. I remember one time I tried to quit after a few days my jaw started throbbing like this.
So...as I am well aware from past experiences of dealing with this particular symptom, I know that one simple dip will kill this pain. However, instead of alleviating this ongoing, throbbing, annoying slow pulsating pain in my jaw, I'm going to sit here and take it.
This fucking cunt of a request by my stupid jaw is going to have to sack up because I will not deliver what it's crying out for. So fuck you jaw, suck it up, your mind is so far it's not complaining. Hell even your taste buds haven't even chimed in yet, but you gotta be "that guy" don't you?
So when you get done with your little throbbing fit, please feel free to go fuck yourself as I will soon tell your friends taste buds mind as they too will not be getting what you so painfully keep reminding me of what you want. I'll keep feeding you lemon drops until you redirect your feeble mind frames to eventually come to be addicted to. Because, well, when's the last time you saw a PSA on television w/a man w/half a jaw wishing he had never put that first lemon drop in his mouth? That's right jaw, never. So unless you want to be surgically removed from my face, shut the fuck up suck on this lemon drop you little bitch.
'clap' 'clap' 'clap' 'clap' 'clap'
You "get it"... bravo my friend. My jaw hurt like a motherfucker when I quit as well. It DOES get better. Hang in there!
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Hey guys, just joined and quit on Apr 10... It's getting better but I still have a massive jaw throb. Is it normal to have after 10 days? Plus baseball is my favorite sport but it's hard watching right now with those fuckers with huge dips in... Makes me jealous
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Hey Twinsfan, Tigersfan here...like I was saying, I have TMJ so that could be it....but yeah! most definitely, everytime I have quit unsuccessfully, usually after a couple days my jaw starts mildly throbbing, it's kinda freaky...
I am going to the doctor's here in 2 hrs. I'll bring that up to him when i talk to him.
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Hey guys, just joined and quit on Apr 10... It's getting better but I still have a massive jaw throb. Is it normal to have after 10 days? Plus baseball is my favorite sport but it's hard watching right now with those fuckers with huge dips in... Makes me jealous
It makes you jealous of what?
Jealous that they are killing themselves with every dip?
Jealous that they are poisoning themselves?
Jealous that they are setting a terrible example to our youth?
Jealous that they are advertising tobacco?
Jealous that you can't kill yourself?
Jealous that they have a cancerous poison in their mouth?
Jealous that they are less healthy than you?
Jealous that they look like idiots?
Jealous that they are addicted to a poison?
Jealous that they have bad breath?
Jealous that they have unhealthy gums?
Jealous that they might get mouth cancer?
Jealous that they waste money on that shit?
Jealous that they are a slave to the can?
If your so jealous, why did you decide to quit anyway?
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Jealous they make 34 million dollars a year?
Jealous that their jocks make their junk look bigger?
Jealous they never have to pay for a steak?
Jealous they bang super model types?
It's hard to eat a steak w/no bottom jaw.
It's hard to eat vag w/no tongue
34 mil won't buy you the cure for cancer
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nothing to be jealous of there!!!
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health problems and risk of cancer!!!
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I think I'll stay quit today!!!
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I think I'll stay quit today!!!
Ditto... count me in!
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New blog post: Triggering a look inside
http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=406 (http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=406)
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New blog post: Time to turn the page
http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=409 (http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=409)
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Hey guys, just joined and quit on Apr 10... It's getting better but I still have a massive jaw throb. Is it normal to have after 10 days? Plus baseball is my favorite sport but it's hard watching right now with those fuckers with huge dips in... Makes me jealous
It makes you jealous of what?
Jealous that they are killing themselves with every dip?
Jealous that they are poisoning themselves?
Jealous that they are setting a terrible example to our youth?
Jealous that they are advertising tobacco?
Jealous that you can't kill yourself?
Jealous that they have a cancerous poison in their mouth?
Jealous that they are less healthy than you?
Jealous that they look like idiots?
Jealous that they are addicted to a poison?
Jealous that they have bad breath?
Jealous that they have unhealthy gums?
Jealous that they might get mouth cancer?
Jealous that they waste money on that shit?
Jealous that they are a slave to the can?
If your so jealous, why did you decide to quit anyway?
Yeah I know, maybe jealous was the wrong word. More like, my trigger's kicking in high gear when i see it. I decided to quit because my gums were receding pretty far down on my front teeth and it hit me as a big wake up call. Also, I couldn't go for more than an hour without a chew, which really sucked....
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Hey Twinsfan, Tigersfan here...like I was saying, I have TMJ so that could be it....but yeah! most definitely, everytime I have quit unsuccessfully, usually after a couple days my jaw starts mildly throbbing, it's kinda freaky...
I am going to the doctor's here in 2 hrs. I'll bring that up to him when i talk to him.
Hey Tigerfan, (I'll let that slide for now...) Yea it worries me and I'm planning on seeing a doctor once my health insurance gets changed. It keeps getting worse each time I try to quit...
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Hey Twinsfan, Tigersfan here...like I was saying, I have TMJ so that could be it....but yeah! most definitely, everytime I have quit unsuccessfully, usually after a couple days my jaw starts mildly throbbing, it's kinda freaky...
I am going to the doctor's here in 2 hrs. I'll bring that up to him when i talk to him.
Hey Tigerfan, (I'll let that slide for now...) Yea it worries me and I'm planning on seeing a doctor once my health insurance gets changed. It keeps getting worse each time I try to quit...
Ahh... why not make this the LAST time you quit ;) Then you've got TWO problems out of the way!!!
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Hey Twinsfan, Tigersfan here...like I was saying, I have TMJ so that could be it....but yeah! most definitely, everytime I have quit unsuccessfully, usually after a couple days my jaw starts mildly throbbing, it's kinda freaky...
I am going to the doctor's here in 2 hrs. I'll bring that up to him when i talk to him.
Hey Tigerfan, (I'll let that slide for now...) Yea it worries me and I'm planning on seeing a doctor once my health insurance gets changed. It keeps getting worse each time I try to quit...
Ahh... why not make this the LAST time you quit ;) Then you've got TWO problems out of the way!!!
Touche,
This is the LAST time I quit!
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Don't know if this is a good place to post this or not.
I am quite sure now that I have ben quit over 100 days that I have adult ADD. I cannot focus on a task for too long, have trouble completeing tasks, put off doing long tasks ect..... When I dipped I would just load up a fatty and go to it. Now I cant do that and it is starting to bother me.
Has there been anyone in the past with this problem, maybe someone could point me to a post to read.
I fugure it still may be some dip fog so I am not too worried yet. It is just pissing me off.
Thanks
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Looking for some member input: index.php?showtopic=3333 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=3333)
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Don't know if this is a good place to post this or not.
I am quite sure now that I have ben quit over 100 days that I have adult ADD. I cannot focus on a task for too long, have trouble completeing tasks, put off doing long tasks ect..... When I dipped I would just load up a fatty and go to it. Now I cant do that and it is starting to bother me.
Has there been anyone in the past with this problem, maybe someone could point me to a post to read.
I fugure it still may be some dip fog so I am not too worried yet. It is just pissing me off.
Thanks
Mike -
I don't have a "cure" for you, but I can tell you that you're not the only one to experience this "fog" WELL into your quit. In fact I went through foggy periods well past a year. Certainly nothing like the initial fog of quitting, but a day or two here and there where I just couldn't get shit done. All I can tell you is that the periods between the fogs have been getting further and further and the fog itself will eventually become a non issue.
I always told myself to "go back to basics" when I was dealing with it... water, post, etc.
Hang in there dude!
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Don't know if this is a good place to post this or not.
I am quite sure now that I have ben quit over 100 days that I have adult ADD. I cannot focus on a task for too long, have trouble completeing tasks, put off doing long tasks ect..... When I dipped I would just load up a fatty and go to it. Now I cant do that and it is starting to bother me.
Has there been anyone in the past with this problem, maybe someone could point me to a post to read.
I fugure it still may be some dip fog so I am not too worried yet. It is just pissing me off.
Thanks
Mike -
I don't have a "cure" for you, but I can tell you that you're not the only one to experience this "fog" WELL into your quit. In fact I went through foggy periods well past a year. Certainly nothing like the initial fog of quitting, but a day or two here and there where I just couldn't get shit done. All I can tell you is that the periods between the fogs have been getting further and further and the fog itself will eventually become a non issue.
I always told myself to "go back to basics" when I was dealing with it... water, post, etc.
Hang in there dude!
Never thought the day would come when I was ready to give up "my friend" in my pocket. "my friend" has been with me since I was in school and I'm 43 now. My fiance reminded me that I promised to quit before we get married in May 2010. Well time is just about up. Sure hope she is prepared for the Monster.
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Don't know if this is a good place to post this or not.
I am quite sure now that I have ben quit over 100 days that I have adult ADD. I cannot focus on a task for too long, have trouble completeing tasks, put off doing long tasks ect..... When I dipped I would just load up a fatty and go to it. Now I cant do that and it is starting to bother me.
Has there been anyone in the past with this problem, maybe someone could point me to a post to read.
I fugure it still may be some dip fog so I am not too worried yet. It is just pissing me off.
Thanks
Mike -
I don't have a "cure" for you, but I can tell you that you're not the only one to experience this "fog" WELL into your quit. In fact I went through foggy periods well past a year. Certainly nothing like the initial fog of quitting, but a day or two here and there where I just couldn't get shit done. All I can tell you is that the periods between the fogs have been getting further and further and the fog itself will eventually become a non issue.
I always told myself to "go back to basics" when I was dealing with it... water, post, etc.
Hang in there dude!
Never thought the day would come when I was ready to give up "my friend" in my pocket. "my friend" has been with me since I was in school and I'm 43 now. My fiance reminded me that I promised to quit before we get married in May 2010. Well time is just about up. Sure hope she is prepared for the Monster.
Congrats on the best decision of your life. (I would say getting married is number one but that would be just silly). Your little friend is no friend at all. That's what we call the Nic Bitch wispering in your ear that she is on your side and that you NEED her to function as a human. I'll tell you right now man, she's a lying, back-stabbing, no-good, rotten, whore that has her hooks in you pretty deep. If you haven't already, post up in the July Group your promise not to dip today. That's all we ask. Today! We worry about tomorrow, tomorrow. You'll get tons of support to get you through the fog and rage of quitting this cancer causing addiction. If you need a number, give me PM and I'll do what I can to help you through. I'd say good luck, but luck has nothing to do with it.
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Don't know if this is a good place to post this or not.
I am quite sure now that I have ben quit over 100 days that I have adult ADD. I cannot focus on a task for too long, have trouble completeing tasks, put off doing long tasks ect..... When I dipped I would just load up a fatty and go to it. Now I cant do that and it is starting to bother me.
Has there been anyone in the past with this problem, maybe someone could point me to a post to read.
I fugure it still may be some dip fog so I am not too worried yet. It is just pissing me off.
Thanks
In a way, I am glad to read this at Day 54. I thought I was abnormal. I have noticed two things since I quit - (i) many more people have magically turned into dumbasses (I don't suffer fools easily) and (ii) more concerning, I can't seem to get anything done.
There are periods of clarity between the fog, and I guess these periods of clarity seem to be getting more frequent.
I dipped for 22 years, so maybe it will take a year or two to feel normal and regain my focus. I'll trade a year or two lost in space for good cardiovascular health and lower odds of cancer.
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Don't know if this is a good place to post this or not.
I am quite sure now that I have ben quit over 100 days that I have adult ADD. I cannot focus on a task for too long, have trouble completeing tasks, put off doing long tasks ect..... When I dipped I would just load up a fatty and go to it. Now I cant do that and it is starting to bother me.
Has there been anyone in the past with this problem, maybe someone could point me to a post to read.
I fugure it still may be some dip fog so I am not too worried yet. It is just pissing me off.
Thanks
In a way, I am glad to read this at Day 54. I thought I was abnormal. I have noticed two things since I quit - (i) many more people have magically turned into dumbasses (I don't suffer fools easily) and (ii) more concerning, I can't seem to get anything done.
There are periods of clarity between the fog, and I guess these periods of clarity seem to be getting more frequent.
I dipped for 22 years, so maybe it will take a year or two to feel normal and regain my focus. I'll trade a year or two lost in space for good cardiovascular health and lower odds of cancer.
Yeah, I'm only on day 37, so I'm just probably rightly still a little foggy, but motivation and concentration levels are definitely my most significant problems right now. I need to move homes in a month and have a lot to do, but my ability to stay on task and not procrastinate is not good compared to normal. I managed to buckle down and get some stuff done last night, but I have to really force it right now. I'll just keep on plugging away at this as long as it takes. It's WELL worth it.
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Don't know if this is a good place to post this or not.
I am quite sure now that I have ben quit over 100 days that I have adult ADD. I cannot focus on a task for too long, have trouble completeing tasks, put off doing long tasks ect..... When I dipped I would just load up a fatty and go to it. Now I cant do that and it is starting to bother me.
Has there been anyone in the past with this problem, maybe someone could point me to a post to read.
I fugure it still may be some dip fog so I am not too worried yet. It is just pissing me off.
Thanks
Mike -
I don't have a "cure" for you, but I can tell you that you're not the only one to experience this "fog" WELL into your quit. In fact I went through foggy periods well past a year. Certainly nothing like the initial fog of quitting, but a day or two here and there where I just couldn't get shit done. All I can tell you is that the periods between the fogs have been getting further and further and the fog itself will eventually become a non issue.
I always told myself to "go back to basics" when I was dealing with it... water, post, etc.
Hang in there dude!
Never thought the day would come when I was ready to give up "my friend" in my pocket. "my friend" has been with me since I was in school and I'm 43 now. My fiance reminded me that I promised to quit before we get married in May 2010. Well time is just about up. Sure hope she is prepared for the Monster.
Congrats on the best decision of your life. (I would say getting married is number one but that would be just silly). Your little friend is no friend at all. That's what we call the Nic Bitch wispering in your ear that she is on your side and that you NEED her to function as a human. I'll tell you right now man, she's a lying, back-stabbing, no-good, rotten, whore that has her hooks in you pretty deep. If you haven't already, post up in the July Group your promise not to dip today. That's all we ask. Today! We worry about tomorrow, tomorrow. You'll get tons of support to get you through the fog and rage of quitting this cancer causing addiction. If you need a number, give me PM and I'll do what I can to help you through. I'd say good luck, but luck has nothing to do with it.
sounds like to me he's already married to the nic bitch.... Throw her to the curb, she only steals form you!
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Since today is April 24, why the hell don't we open up that August 2010 group for some quittin???
Let's get it on, nic bitch!!!
'Finger'
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Since today is April 24, why the hell don't we open up that August 2010 group for some quittin???
Let's get it on, nic bitch!!!
'Finger'
It's open... let's get it on!
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New blog post: You Never Know When YouÂ’ll Reach Someone
http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=413 (http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=413)
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Just wanted to introduce myself, I have been quit for 194 days and have had the support from qssn.org throughout. But I still have the cravings and believe that the more support I have, the more support I give, the better, in fighting off that nic bitch. The HOF speeches on this site have also kept me quit and I thank those who have been running it tremendously. Rob
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Just wanted to introduce myself, I have been quit for 194 days and have had the support from qssn.org throughout. But I still have the cravings and believe that the more support I have, the more support I give, the better, in fighting off that nic bitch. The HOF speeches on this site have also kept me quit and I thank those who have been running it tremendously. Rob
Welcome buccee! Damn glad to have you and congrats on a great start to your quit!
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Hi all, I just wanted to stop by and introduce myself. My name is Tom and I've been chewing for almost two years. It's gotten a lot worse lately, pretty much a can a day. Today (Monday) is my quit day. I waited to post this till after midnight. I've tried quitting numerous times but with no real results. I'm hoping this group can help me stay away from chew forever. By the way, is this the new roll call?
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Hi all, I just wanted to stop by and introduce myself. My name is Tom and I've been chewing for almost two years. It's gotten a lot worse lately, pretty much a can a day. Today (Monday) is my quit day. I waited to post this till after midnight. I've tried quitting numerous times but with no real results. I'm hoping this group can help me stay away from chew forever. By the way, is this the new roll call?
Welcome Tom and congrats on a fucking great decision to quit! I won't tell you it'll be easy but TOTALLY worth it! If your quit date is today, then you're part of the August 2010 group: index.php?showtopic=3330 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=3330) That's where you'll post roll on a daily basis.
See you there!
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Hello people. I'm 111 days quit thanks to QSSN, but my buddy Mike suggested that I check out what's going on here. QSSN is great, but lately it's just been posting roll and that's about it. Sooo here I am.
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Hello people. I'm 111 days quit thanks to QSSN, but my buddy Mike suggested that I check out what's going on here. QSSN is great, but lately it's just been posting roll and that's about it. Sooo here I am.
Congrats to staying quit but what exactly are you looking for? More support for yourself? More support for others? More dick jokes? More gay geriatric necrophilia jokes that may or may not include circus midgets and trannies? More overall bad-assedness? We got it all. What are you here for?
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Hello people. I'm 111 days quit thanks to QSSN, but my buddy Mike suggested that I check out what's going on here. QSSN is great, but lately it's just been posting roll and that's about it. Sooo here I am.
Congrats to staying quit but what exactly are you looking for? More support for yourself? More support for others? More dick jokes? More gay geriatric necrophilia jokes that may or may not include circus midgets and trannies? More overall bad-assedness? We got it all. What are you here for?
All of the above. Mike and I have the same attitude toward serial cavers, and it isn't popular in a lot of the quit groups. Mike had an epic match with one dude who posted a Day Zero, because he was posting roll but still dipping. I mean fuuuuck.
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Hello people. I'm 111 days quit thanks to QSSN, but my buddy Mike suggested that I check out what's going on here. QSSN is great, but lately it's just been posting roll and that's about it. Sooo here I am.
Congrats to staying quit but what exactly are you looking for? More support for yourself? More support for others? More dick jokes? More gay geriatric necrophilia jokes that may or may not include circus midgets and trannies? More overall bad-assedness? We got it all. What are you here for?
All of the above. Mike and I have the same attitude toward serial cavers, and it isn't popular in a lot of the quit groups. Mike had an epic match with one dude who posted a Day Zero, because he was posting roll but still dipping. I mean fuuuuck.
Please welcome Pelican, he is one of us at heart.
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Hello people. I'm 111 days quit thanks to QSSN, but my buddy Mike suggested that I check out what's going on here. QSSN is great, but lately it's just been posting roll and that's about it. Sooo here I am.
Congrats to staying quit but what exactly are you looking for? More support for yourself? More support for others? More dick jokes? More gay geriatric necrophilia jokes that may or may not include circus midgets and trannies? More overall bad-assedness? We got it all. What are you here for?
All of the above. Mike and I have the same attitude toward serial cavers, and it isn't popular in a lot of the quit groups. Mike had an epic match with one dude who posted a Day Zero, because he was posting roll but still dipping. I mean fuuuuck.
Please welcome Pelican, he is one of us at heart.
MikeA's approval is good enough for me. Welcome brother.
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13 days in with my kick ass July group. Just wanted to say hey and share a few observations. Those being=) I look a hell of a lot better,lol. Less like a corpse. I'm lean to begin with and dip replacing food definitely gave me the walking dead look. Well,maybe not that extreme but I felt so. I've gone from hovering below 160 to 168. That may have to do with beginning to take creatine a week before my quit though. Creatine is greedy greedy for water and hoards it in your muscle cells.
My girlfriend is totally loving how I taste now when we kiss. And I can taste her more than I ever did before!
I do feel shame for the 2 years I hid it from her. And I feel like a freaking idiot for not having quit sooner. Both feelings will get me or you nowhere but I want to acknowledge them and move on. Regret is a serious waste of energy. Live and learn and move forward.
~Jay
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13 days in with my kick ass July group. Just wanted to say hey and share a few observations. Those being=) I look a hell of a lot better,lol. Less like a corpse. I'm lean to begin with and dip replacing food definitely gave me the walking dead look. Well,maybe not that extreme but I felt so. I've gone from hovering below 160 to 168. That may have to do with beginning to take creatine a week before my quit though. Creatine is greedy greedy for water and hoards it in your muscle cells.
My girlfriend is totally loving how I taste now when we kiss. And I can taste her more than I ever did before!
I do feel shame for the 2 years I hid it from her. And I feel like a freaking idiot for not having quit sooner. Both feelings will get me or you nowhere but I want to acknowledge them and move on. Regret is a serious waste of energy. Live and learn and move forward.
~Jay
Stop by 2007 group and wish CJ a happy day he hits 1000 today.
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Don't know if this is a good place to post this or not.
I am quite sure now that I have ben quit over 100 days that I have adult ADD. I cannot focus on a task for too long, have trouble completeing tasks, put off doing long tasks ect..... When I dipped I would just load up a fatty and go to it. Now I cant do that and it is starting to bother me.
Has there been anyone in the past with this problem, maybe someone could point me to a post to read.
I fugure it still may be some dip fog so I am not too worried yet. It is just pissing me off.
Thanks
Mike -
I don't have a "cure" for you, but I can tell you that you're not the only one to experience this "fog" WELL into your quit. In fact I went through foggy periods well past a year. Certainly nothing like the initial fog of quitting, but a day or two here and there where I just couldn't get shit done. All I can tell you is that the periods between the fogs have been getting further and further and the fog itself will eventually become a non issue.
I always told myself to "go back to basics" when I was dealing with it... water, post, etc.
Hang in there dude!
Never thought the day would come when I was ready to give up "my friend" in my pocket. "my friend" has been with me since I was in school and I'm 43 now. My fiance reminded me that I promised to quit before we get married in May 2010. Well time is just about up. Sure hope she is prepared for the Monster.
Congrats on the best decision of your life. (I would say getting married is number one but that would be just silly). Your little friend is no friend at all. That's what we call the Nic Bitch wispering in your ear that she is on your side and that you NEED her to function as a human. I'll tell you right now man, she's a lying, back-stabbing, no-good, rotten, whore that has her hooks in you pretty deep. If you haven't already, post up in the July Group your promise not to dip today. That's all we ask. Today! We worry about tomorrow, tomorrow. You'll get tons of support to get you through the fog and rage of quitting this cancer causing addiction. If you need a number, give me PM and I'll do what I can to help you through. I'd say good luck, but luck has nothing to do with it.
sounds like to me he's already married to the nic bitch.... Throw her to the curb, she only steals form you!
Nicotine increases the thinking process in the brain. This is a fact. When I was using it, I would get some every time I had to solve a problem at work. After many years of using this to help, I suddenly took it away. Now I don't have some little "nitro" button to push when I need to think. Gotta re-learn how to focus and concentrate. I believe the initial fog is a reaction to removing this.
Meditation helps.
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Good morning quitters!
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Good morning quitters!
Good moring chewie!!!
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Good morning quitters!
Good moring chewie!!!
buenos dÃas señor
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New blog post: Does It Ever Get Easier?
http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=420 (http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=420)
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New blog post: Does It Ever Get Easier?
http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=420 (http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=420)
Does anyone use the nicotine gum??
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New blog post: Does It Ever Get Easier?
http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=420 (http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=420)
Does anyone use the nicotine gum??
If you are, you better not be posting roll call with a bunch of guys who are cold turkey.
Nic gum and patches will only pro long the withdraw period. Why would you want to do that?
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I have to definitely agree with Mike here. When I was quitting the odd time the argument would arise about the gum, with some guys saying that "it's not tobacco!", even one guy who thought it was okay to have a few smokes. We had to get off the nicotine, bottom line. Then again, that's just what I think (well and Mike, but don't get me started on EVERYTHING that he thinks :D).
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Do not post roll if you are using NRT.... !!!!
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Do not post roll if you are using NRT.... !!!!
I agree with the logic here. I didn't realize it was a no-no but it makes since. So I guess I'm not really on day 3. But I can asure you the gum is not the same as the snuff. But I see your point. I stand corrected..
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Do not post roll if you are using NRT.... !!!!
I agree with the logic here. I didn't realize it was a no-no but it makes since. So I guess I'm not really on day 3. But I can asure you the gum is not the same as the snuff. But I see your point. I stand corrected..
Simple, spit out the gum and post day 1. It really IS that easy.
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Do not post roll if you are using NRT.... !!!!
I agree with the logic here. I didn't realize it was a no-no but it makes since. So I guess I'm not really on day 3. But I can asure you the gum is not the same as the snuff. But I see your point. I stand corrected..
Simple, spit out the gum and post day 1. It really IS that easy.
Dean, you are right. The gum is not the same as snuff, and that's kind of the point. I've tried it before and it doesn't work/makes quitting harder.
The way I look at it, the discomfort you feel from the gum is about a 3 or 5 or something since you've reduced the amount of nicotine you are ingesting. Cold Turkey is about (exactly) a 10. The bad news? It doesn't matter how long you withstand the 3 level, when you finally kick the gum, and all other nicotine, guess what level of discomfort that is? Yep, a 10. Your body can't really start healing itself and untangling the wires in your nervous system until you completely stop feeding it the drug.
NRT's were basically just another form of denial for me. On the bright side, I was really stimulating the medical industry economy with all the money I wasted on gum for a minute there. These guys probably aren't quite as bad as US Tobacco, but they might be just as full of shit.
Either way, you can't post roll until you are nic free, so toss the gum, post day one, embrace the suck, and let the healing begin.
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Do not post roll if you are using NRT.... !!!!
I agree with the logic here. I didn't realize it was a no-no but it makes since. So I guess I'm not really on day 3. But I can asure you the gum is not the same as the snuff. But I see your point. I stand corrected..
Simple, spit out the gum and post day 1. It really IS that easy.
Dean, you are right. The gum is not the same as snuff, and that's kind of the point. I've tried it before and it doesn't work/makes quitting harder.
The way I look at it, the discomfort you feel from the gum is about a 3 or 5 or something since you've reduced the amount of nicotine you are ingesting. Cold Turkey is about (exactly) a 10. The bad news? It doesn't matter how long you withstand the 3 level, when you finally kick the gum, and all other nicotine, guess what level of discomfort that is? Yep, a 10. Your body can't really start healing itself and untangling the wires in your nervous system until you completely stop feeding it the drug.
NRT's were basically just another form of denial for me. On the bright side, I was really stimulating the medical industry economy with all the money I wasted on gum for a minute there. These guys probably aren't quite as bad as US Tobacco, but they might be just as full of shit.
Either way, you can't post roll until you are nic free, so toss the gum, post day one, embrace the suck, and let the healing begin.
My company offers a cessation program for smokers and dippers. I called them when I decided to quit and they sent me four boxes of the gum for free. I think I chewed maybe 10 pieces before I said screw this and quit the right way. The gum was WAY to much work for me. Chew until you feel the tingle and park it in your upper lip for one minute and repeat.
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Yeah, NRT is the biggest crock-o-shit out there. Every time I have tried to quit 2-3 times, I used the lozenges..lasted about 7 days each time. Prior to all that BS i did just up and quit cold turkey for 4 months. I don't recall why I restarted but I'm sure it was a retarted reason.
I'm just now ending day 3 coming out of the heavy fog. I felt good today actually but am about out of fake snuff and wont leave work until Saturday morning. Time will tell how I handle that shit.
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Yeah, NRT is the biggest crock-o-shit out there. Every time I have tried to quit 2-3 times, I used the lozenges..lasted about 7 days each time. Prior to all that BS i did just up and quit cold turkey for 4 months. I don't recall why I restarted but I'm sure it was a retarted reason.
I'm just now ending day 3 coming out of the heavy fog. I felt good today actually but am about out of fake snuff and wont leave work until Saturday morning. Time will tell how I handle that shit.
Cold fucking turkey is the only way to go. I went cold and had seeds and a shit TON of water. Its either your time or its not.
Stay sharp and keep the nic bitch at bay!!
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I want to scream today! If I do it will be in the face of the Nic bitch!
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It's been awhile since I've traveled here. And on many levels I have missed helping, talking and at times even laughing with most of you. As some of you know back in January I had a slip and fall and hurt my back. The Dr. that I went to see prescribed me Oxycontin. At first I couldn't take it since it made me very sleepy so he changed it to Lortab but yet this still didn't help with my back pain. He asked if I want to go back to the Oxycontin and I said yes. Then my son was admitted to the hospital with kidney problems and I stayed there the whole time, doing everything for him since they had to put IV's in each of his arms. I was stressed and my pain had increased since I wasn't able to baby my back like I had been since Jan. I increased my medication. Doing this sent my body out of control and left me feeling different when I returned home and didn't need to take as much since I was able to rest and not be up and down. I cut myself off and went through the worst withdraws. I was cold then hot, sweaty, nausea, throwing up and on and on. At the time, I believe I had some kind of flu though but when I was still feeling this way after 48 grueling hours I felt it was something else. I decided to get a second opinion with a Dr. who had done my neck surgury after my accident. He couldn't believe I was on 30 mg and that I was popping two at a time. He said I was lucky that it didn't kill me. I gave him the rest of my meds and he prescribed me something lower yet I still can't come to take anything though my back hurts. I guess I'm scared. I don't want to ever have to feel that way again. The Dr. hadn't told me about how addictive this drug can be. Today is the first actual day I've felt like myself. I just wanted to let you all know I'm still dip free, tobacco free, ... heck I'm drug free. Wow! Life can really throw you some amazing curve balls but I just keep on hitting them out of the ball park. Thanks for taking the time to read this. If I can stay quit so can you.
Nickie
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It's been awhile since I've traveled here. And on many levels I have missed helping, talking and at times even laughing with most of you. As some of you know back in January I had a slip and fall and hurt my back. The Dr. that I went to see prescribed me Oxycontin. At first I couldn't take it since it made me very sleepy so he changed it to Lortab but yet this still didn't help with my back pain. He asked if I want to go back to the Oxycontin and I said yes. Then my son was admitted to the hospital with kidney problems and I stayed there the whole time, doing everything for him since they had to put IV's in each of his arms. I was stressed and my pain had increased since I wasn't able to baby my back like I had been since Jan. I increased my medication. Doing this sent my body out of control and left me feeling different when I returned home and didn't need to take as much since I was able to rest and not be up and down. I cut myself off and went through the worst withdraws. I was cold then hot, sweaty, nausea, throwing up and on and on. At the time, I believe I had some kind of flu though but when I was still feeling this way after 48 grueling hours I felt it was something else. I decided to get a second opinion with a Dr. who had done my neck surgury after my accident. He couldn't believe I was on 30 mg and that I was popping two at a time. He said I was lucky that it didn't kill me. I gave him the rest of my meds and he prescribed me something lower yet I still can't come to take anything though my back hurts. I guess I'm scared. I don't want to ever have to feel that way again. The Dr. hadn't told me about how addictive this drug can be. Today is the first actual day I've felt like myself. I just wanted to let you all know I'm still dip free, tobacco free, ... heck I'm drug free. Wow! Life can really throw you some amazing curve balls but I just keep on hitting them out of the ball park. Thanks for taking the time to read this. If I can stay quit so can you.
Nickie
Wow,
Really puts a lot of things into perspective for me to read that.
Mad props to for dealing with all that you have on your plate!
Prayers for you as well.
If you can be strong going thru all of that then I know I can stick with my quit!
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It's been awhile since I've traveled here. And on many levels I have missed helping, talking and at times even laughing with most of you. As some of you know back in January I had a slip and fall and hurt my back. The Dr. that I went to see prescribed me Oxycontin. At first I couldn't take it since it made me very sleepy so he changed it to Lortab but yet this still didn't help with my back pain. He asked if I want to go back to the Oxycontin and I said yes. Then my son was admitted to the hospital with kidney problems and I stayed there the whole time, doing everything for him since they had to put IV's in each of his arms. I was stressed and my pain had increased since I wasn't able to baby my back like I had been since Jan. I increased my medication. Doing this sent my body out of control and left me feeling different when I returned home and didn't need to take as much since I was able to rest and not be up and down. I cut myself off and went through the worst withdraws. I was cold then hot, sweaty, nausea, throwing up and on and on. At the time, I believe I had some kind of flu though but when I was still feeling this way after 48 grueling hours I felt it was something else. I decided to get a second opinion with a Dr. who had done my neck surgury after my accident. He couldn't believe I was on 30 mg and that I was popping two at a time. He said I was lucky that it didn't kill me. I gave him the rest of my meds and he prescribed me something lower yet I still can't come to take anything though my back hurts. I guess I'm scared. I don't want to ever have to feel that way again. The Dr. hadn't told me about how addictive this drug can be. Today is the first actual day I've felt like myself. I just wanted to let you all know I'm still dip free, tobacco free, ... heck I'm drug free. Wow! Life can really throw you some amazing curve balls but I just keep on hitting them out of the ball park. Thanks for taking the time to read this. If I can stay quit so can you.
Nickie
I'm still dip free, tobacco free, ... heck I'm drug free. Wow! Life can really throw you some amazing curve balls but I just keep on hitting them out of the ball park.
PHENOMENAL!!!!!!!!!!!
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It's been awhile since I've traveled here. And on many levels I have missed helping, talking and at times even laughing with most of you. As some of you know back in January I had a slip and fall and hurt my back. The Dr. that I went to see prescribed me Oxycontin. At first I couldn't take it since it made me very sleepy so he changed it to Lortab but yet this still didn't help with my back pain. He asked if I want to go back to the Oxycontin and I said yes. Then my son was admitted to the hospital with kidney problems and I stayed there the whole time, doing everything for him since they had to put IV's in each of his arms. I was stressed and my pain had increased since I wasn't able to baby my back like I had been since Jan. I increased my medication. Doing this sent my body out of control and left me feeling different when I returned home and didn't need to take as much since I was able to rest and not be up and down. I cut myself off and went through the worst withdraws. I was cold then hot, sweaty, nausea, throwing up and on and on. At the time, I believe I had some kind of flu though but when I was still feeling this way after 48 grueling hours I felt it was something else. I decided to get a second opinion with a Dr. who had done my neck surgury after my accident. He couldn't believe I was on 30 mg and that I was popping two at a time. He said I was lucky that it didn't kill me. I gave him the rest of my meds and he prescribed me something lower yet I still can't come to take anything though my back hurts. I guess I'm scared. I don't want to ever have to feel that way again. The Dr. hadn't told me about how addictive this drug can be. Today is the first actual day I've felt like myself. I just wanted to let you all know I'm still dip free, tobacco free, ... heck I'm drug free. Wow! Life can really throw you some amazing curve balls but I just keep on hitting them out of the ball park. Thanks for taking the time to read this. If I can stay quit so can you.
Nickie
I'm still dip free, tobacco free, ... heck I'm drug free. Wow! Life can really throw you some amazing curve balls but I just keep on hitting them out of the ball park.
PHENOMENAL!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for stopping by Nick! Keep on keeping on lady - you're a continued inspiration...
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Do not post roll if you are using NRT.... !!!!
I agree with the logic here. I didn't realize it was a no-no but it makes since. So I guess I'm not really on day 3. But I can asure you the gum is not the same as the snuff. But I see your point. I stand corrected..
Simple, spit out the gum and post day 1. It really IS that easy.
Deancraig..I could care less if you post. It has no impact on me or my quit. I think I'm a little more rational than some of the nazis, (I could careless if girls enter the clubhouse) but I will say this: You don't need the gum. It's not that bad. Many people make the quit seem like the fucking plague..and IT"S NOT!! Seriously. I dipped for 20 years, 1 can a day. I spent a week slowly cutting back on the number of dips each day, reducing the amount of nicotine in my system, then quit cold turkey.
It was so easy my wife was pissed at me that I had not done it sooner. Quitting is like jumping our of an airplane with a parachute. If you've never done it it is the scariest thing in the world, but once you do it, you can;t believe how easy it is.
IF you feel like you need a crutch, try the fake stuff. You can do this.
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Do not post roll if you are using NRT.... !!!!
I agree with the logic here. I didn't realize it was a no-no but it makes since. So I guess I'm not really on day 3. But I can asure you the gum is not the same as the snuff. But I see your point. I stand corrected..
Simple, spit out the gum and post day 1. It really IS that easy.
Deancraig..I could care less if you post. It has no impact on me or my quit. I think I'm a little more rational than some of the nazis, (I could careless if girls enter the clubhouse) but I will say this: You don't need the gum. It's not that bad. Many people make the quit seem like the fucking plague..and IT"S NOT!! Seriously. I dipped for 20 years, 1 can a day. I spent a week slowly cutting back on the number of dips each day, reducing the amount of nicotine in my system, then quit cold turkey.
It was so easy my wife was pissed at me that I had not done it sooner. Quitting is like jumping our of an airplane with a parachute. If you've never done it it is the scariest thing in the world, but once you do it, you can;t believe how easy it is.
IF you feel like you need a crutch, try the fake stuff. You can do this.
DodgeVol / Deancraig -
Vol - SO happy that things are going so easily for you. I'll just warn you of one thing.
In all likelihood, you're not out of the woods. Be prepared for a knee buckling crave that kicks you in the balls. Sounds like you're one of the rare ones that has a relatively easy go of this. These are typically the people that have the hardest time with these types of craves cause they aren't tested and don't know how to deal with them. I sincerely hope that you never have to deal with them but if/when you do we're here.
Deancraig - while I think Vol is in the minority in terms of how easy his quit has been, he's absolutely right on a couple of things.
1. You don't need the gum. As you correctly point out, the gum is certainly nothing like the dip, but it still has nicotine in it. Until you get rid of the DRUG rather than the DELIVERY METHOD you're still a slave. That said, I've seen many folks be very successful with the gum/patch method of quitting. When you've followed the packaging to a T and are finally completely nicotine free, feel free to post roll with your group. Until then, post away here in the Cafe or in the Intro section and we'll be happy to help.
2. Vol is also right when he says that quitting is scarier in your mind than it is in reality. (I'm paraphrasing). I remember a couple of months before I quit I just couldn't wrap my head around never dipping again. I loved it too damn much. I simply could not understand how I'd get through the day without my beloved Kodiak. Its this line of thinking which leads us to our "one day at a time" approach to quitting. The concept of "forever" is just too damn big when you first start out. Quit for today... deal with tomorrow when you get there. Check this out for some additional reading: http://www.killthecan.org/facts/cravesforever.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/facts/cravesforever.asp)
chewie
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the other day, i drove to go get something. turned around halfway to get some cash to get a tin. drove to the store got the stuff i needed and then pulled into the gas station and i just couldnt bring myself to get out of the car and go buy a tin i dont know what was wrong and i cant believe i didnt because on the drive i was so pumped to have a dip and then after i got out of the store to go to the gas station i just couldnt do it. callled one of my buddies and he said i shouldnt do i didnt.
today was also really tough but not as bad so glad i didnt get that tin that day
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Hey you!
Yes, you. I see you lurking out there. You're here because deep down, you know you need to quit. You want to quit. But damn, it hurts.
I'm not going to kid you. Quitting sucks. But you know what? You will quit. You can choose to quit. Or you can choose to die. Either way, you choose. Either way, you quit.
That's right. It's a choice. A simple choice. Spit it out, flush the can and you choose to quit. You choose a new life. A life without constantly needing a dip.
Keep shoving the crap in you face, and you choose to die a slave. Afraid of a little pain and discomfort. Afraid of,... what? Freedom?
Today, I am 1,400 days a free man. I make a choice. I choose freedom.
Now it's your turn. What do you choose?
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I chose to quit also 5 days ago you right it is a son of a ___--. But I figure it like this, if I can any body can do it. looking forward to next week. B)
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I chose to quit also 5 days ago you right it is a son of a ___--. But I figure it like this, if I can any body can do it. looking forward to next week. B)
Bravo tex! Congrats on 5 days of freedom... you're just about at a time when things may start to feel a bit better. Keep taking it one day at a time and before you know it the fog will start to lift and you'll actually have periods of time where you'll be able to think straight!
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Not finding this site too easy to manage but hey, I'm cranky. Day one. The fog has enveloped me. Staring at the computer watching the time drag by. I've quit before, for years at a time without dip but have a little more motivation now. My son has agreed to quit if I do. Sad to say, but like father like son. I can't continue to deny this. Today is going to be hell, tomorrow too but its just got to be done.
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Not finding this site too easy to manage but hey, I'm cranky. Day one. The fog has enveloped me. Staring at the computer watching the time drag by. I've quit before, for years at a time without dip but have a little more motivation now. My son has agreed to quit if I do. Sad to say, but like father like son. I can't continue to deny this. Today is going to be hell, tomorrow too but its just got to be done.
welcome, you will find the site easier once you get used to it and the fog has lifted.
You and your son need to quit for you and you only. I think we all have found out you can't quit for someone else with any success.
So, quit with us today and quit for yourself today. We will do it again tomorrow.
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Not finding this site too easy to manage but hey, I'm cranky. Day one. The fog has enveloped me. Staring at the computer watching the time drag by. I've quit before, for years at a time without dip but have a little more motivation now. My son has agreed to quit if I do. Sad to say, but like father like son. I can't continue to deny this. Today is going to be hell, tomorrow too but its just got to be done.
welcome, you will find the site easier once you get used to it and the fog has lifted.
You and your son need to quit for you and you only. I think we all have found out you can't quit for someone else with any success.
So, quit with us today and quit for yourself today. We will do it again tomorrow.
Werd !!
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So...
I am on day 2 of my no dip lifestyle. I am also a recovering alcoholic and drug addict. I find that tobacco is a BITCH to quit. I would rather have gone through alcohol detox again than this shit. Oh well, I owe it to myself to live an addiction free lifestyle and keep all my teeth in the process. I am here if anyone needs to talk or just complain about their journey thus far.
Brian (Tat2dman)
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So...
I am on day 2 of my no dip lifestyle. I am also a recovering alcoholic and drug addict. I find that tobacco is a BITCH to quit. I would rather have gone through alcohol detox again than this shit. Oh well, I owe it to myself to live an addiction free lifestyle and keep all my teeth in the process. I am here if anyone needs to talk or just complain about their journey thus far.
Brian (Tat2dman)
you know all about the one day at a time deal then
post roll first thing in the morning...realize the significance
keep your word
ask for help if you need it......give help when asked
we got your back.....and we've all been/are there with ya.
come on in....the quittins fine
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Day two is sucking just as much as day one. One measure of success passed as I had a couple of drinks last night but did not stop by the store for the can on the way home. Not really missing anything but having a clear head right now. I am tired but wired now. Gaining momentum on the other side of the quit and feeling pretty confident in a clueless hazy kind of way. I should have called in sick though. Can't make any meaningful decisions now. I am glad I decided to do this when the wife is out of town... Hang on former spitters.
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Day two is sucking just as much as day one. One measure of success passed as I had a couple of drinks last night but did not stop by the store for the can on the way home. Not really missing anything but having a clear head right now. I am tired but wired now. Gaining momentum on the other side of the quit and feeling pretty confident in a clueless hazy kind of way. I should have called in sick though. Can't make any meaningful decisions now. I am glad I decided to do this when the wife is out of town... Hang on former spitters.
you can do this dude. after day 3 it all gets easier. you will have a few tough days in the first 2 weeks at least i did. but im now onto my third week quit and its one of the best decisions ive made. you feel really proud of yourself for working so hard and trying to stay quit. its a long process but hang in there you start to feel positive about it. just take it one day at a time
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i was just wondering how to find if anyone responds to anything you post otherwise you just have to search through the whole forum. is there anyway that you can do that? thanks guys. stay quit
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i was just wondering how to find if anyone responds to anything you post otherwise you just have to search through the whole forum. is there anyway that you can do that? thanks guys. stay quit
I don't think there is a way to get a prompt if someone responds to YOUR SPECIFIC post. But you can change a setting somewhere that will send you an e-mail advising someone has posted in a particular thread. and even if you have received a PM. Look just above this post in small print right middle of your screen you should see "track this topic" click it and you will get e-mails anytime someone posts in THIS thread.
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Harmful effects of smoking.........
Many health groups are continuously reminding people about the harmful effects of smoking on the body, aside from the fact that it is habit forming. Once these effects set in, they may be hard to treat, some are even irreversible. So what are some of the dangers smokers seem to be taking for granted?
Health risks from smoking begin as soon as the person starts smoking. Beginners often experience shortness of breath, cough, wheezing, and phlegm more frequently than non-smokers. Also, the earlier a person starts smoking, there is also a bigger risk of premature death from common smoking-related diseases such as emphysema, lung cancer, and heart disease. Adult smokers also put themselves at risk of early onsets of osteoporosis, menopause, and fertility problems.
Aside from these major effects, smokers are also at risk of developing mouth ulcers or cancers and dental problems such as teeth discoloration due to tar, gum bleeding and diseases, bad breath, and tooth decay. Smoking also increases the production of acids in the stomach, which often leads to ulcers and heartburn. Tar can also cause cancer of the throat and the esophagus.
Female smokers have been gaining numbers lately as well, and they also put themselves in major health risks. Since smoking greatly affects the female reproductive system, it affects the production of hormones that prevents the early onset of wrinkles in women. Young smokers may not see the effect now but when they reach the age of 30, they will look more like 40. Smoking during pregnancy is also harmful for the baby, since the development of its brain will be affected, and puts the baby in greater danger of Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS).
So before it is too late, young people should be discouraged from smoking. Meanwhile, it's not yet too late for smokers to break the habit, as there are many substance abuse treatments being offered today. Stopping early may prove to be beneficial for smokers and their families. The decision to quit smoking is never easy for most people, so drug intervention may be necessary for them to be convinced that they should put away their cigarettes forever.
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Harmful effects of smoking.........
Many health groups are continuously reminding people about the harmful effects of smoking on the body, aside from the fact that it is habit forming. Once these effects set in, they may be hard to treat, some are even irreversible. So what are some of the dangers smokers seem to be taking for granted?
Health risks from smoking begin as soon as the person starts smoking. Beginners often experience shortness of breath, cough, wheezing, and phlegm more frequently than non-smokers. Also, the earlier a person starts smoking, there is also a bigger risk of premature death from common smoking-related diseases such as emphysema, lung cancer, and heart disease. Adult smokers also put themselves at risk of early onsets of osteoporosis, menopause, and fertility problems.
Aside from these major effects, smokers are also at risk of developing mouth ulcers or cancers and dental problems such as teeth discoloration due to tar, gum bleeding and diseases, bad breath, and tooth decay. Smoking also increases the production of acids in the stomach, which often leads to ulcers and heartburn. Tar can also cause cancer of the throat and the esophagus.
Female smokers have been gaining numbers lately as well, and they also put themselves in major health risks. Since smoking greatly affects the female reproductive system, it affects the production of hormones that prevents the early onset of wrinkles in women. Young smokers may not see the effect now but when they reach the age of 30, they will look more like 40. Smoking during pregnancy is also harmful for the baby, since the development of its brain will be affected, and puts the baby in greater danger of Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS).
So before it is too late, young people should be discouraged from smoking. Meanwhile, it's not yet too late for smokers to break the habit, as there are many substance abuse treatments being offered today. Stopping early may prove to be beneficial for smokers and their families. The decision to quit smoking is never easy for most people, so drug intervention may be necessary for them to be convinced that they should put away their cigarettes forever.
Nice write-up. I do also want to mention a few things here. The first is we had a close friend of the family pass away from a severe heart attack. She was in her fifties and she looked older than that from many years of cigarette smoking. We went to her funeral and all the older people were on oxygen tanks!!!!!! I couldn't believe it and they were still smoking. I was thinking to myself...."hello???!!!! McFly, is there anybody f'ing home?!?!?!"
The second thing is this...let's take for example if a smoker doesn't die from a heart attack, lung cancer, or the alike. Have you seen how BADLY nicotine abusers look? I swear we have two gals who work for us and they look hideous...absolutely hideous from smoking. It's sooo bad. But, I thought this is food for thought. Their face has deep wrinkles, fingers are yellow, breath stinks...totally gross.
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Day two is sucking just as much as day one. One measure of success passed as I had a couple of drinks last night but did not stop by the store for the can on the way home. Not really missing anything but having a clear head right now. I am tired but wired now. Gaining momentum on the other side of the quit and feeling pretty confident in a clueless hazy kind of way. I should have called in sick though. Can't make any meaningful decisions now. I am glad I decided to do this when the wife is out of town... Hang on former spitters.
Congrats and stay on it, brother! I don't know if you've researched the herbal dips, but Hooch is pretty damn good. It made my quit so much easier. Do whatever it is you have to do to keep that crap out of your face. Not only does it mess your face up, it does bad things to significant parts of our bodies, i.e. heart, arteries, bones, etc. Stay quit and get healthy, and then stay healthy. Good work, keep it up!
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i was just wondering how to find if anyone responds to anything you post otherwise you just have to search through the whole forum. is there anyway that you can do that? thanks guys. stay quit
If you click on "My Assistant" in the upper right corner of the screen, it will show you all kinds of neat stuff, including replies to your posts and how to view all your posts.
Brian(Tat2dman)
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i was just wondering how to find if anyone responds to anything you post otherwise you just have to search through the whole forum. is there anyway that you can do that? thanks guys. stay quit
If you click on "My Assistant" in the upper right corner of the screen, it will show you all kinds of neat stuff, including replies to your posts and how to view all your posts.
Brian(Tat2dman)
You've been here all of two days and have the board workings down enough to school us dumbasses...nice.
BTW, your avatar creeps me the fuck out. not sure why but, eeeek!
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New community poll - index.php?showtopic=3417 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=3417)
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New blog post: For The Long Term Quitters Out There
http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=424 (http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=424)
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The Koozies are here!!!
http://www.killthecan.org/store/koozie.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/store/koozie.asp)
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Anyone here?
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Anyone here?
always. What's on your mind?
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Anyone here?
always. What's on your mind?
I get off at 5:00
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Outstanding! I'm just sitting here scared out of my mind as tomorrow is my quit date and was wondering if anyone would really answer... thank you.
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Truly a great site great thing you do ..
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Outstanding! I'm just sitting here scared out of my mind as tomorrow is my quit date and was wondering if anyone would really answer... thank you.
up in the right side - upper corner is a live chat url - this will bring you in to a room of miscreants and other generally hard core quitters - 9 times out of ten, there are plenty of people in there.
Why not flush your can now and just quit now? Tomorrow won't be any better than right now. 519 days ago, I was you - glad to have my life back and the freedom to live without the addiction. If you REALLY are ready to quit, this place is the difference for many of us.
Check out live chat and have a look at the September 2010 quit group. Lots of action in there. We only ask you refrain from posting on these threads until you have tossed your can.
You can do this - we can help :)
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Outstanding! I'm just sitting here scared out of my mind as tomorrow is my quit date and was wondering if anyone would really answer... thank you.
up in the right side - upper corner is a live chat url - this will bring you in to a room of miscreants and other generally hard core quitters - 9 times out of ten, there are plenty of people in there.
Why not flush your can now and just quit now? Tomorrow won't be any better than right now. 519 days ago, I was you - glad to have my life back and the freedom to live without the addiction. If you REALLY are ready to quit, this place is the difference for many of us.
Check out live chat and have a look at the September 2010 quit group. Lots of action in there. We only ask you refrain from posting on these threads until you have tossed your can.
You can do this - we can help :)
Thanks again ...
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Outstanding! I'm just sitting here scared out of my mind as tomorrow is my quit date and was wondering if anyone would really answer... thank you.
up in the right side - upper corner is a live chat url - this will bring you in to a room of miscreants and other generally hard core quitters - 9 times out of ten, there are plenty of people in there.
Why not flush your can now and just quit now? Tomorrow won't be any better than right now. 519 days ago, I was you - glad to have my life back and the freedom to live without the addiction. If you REALLY are ready to quit, this place is the difference for many of us.
Check out live chat and have a look at the September 2010 quit group. Lots of action in there. We only ask you refrain from posting on these threads until you have tossed your can.
You can do this - we can help :)
Thanks again ...
PUNKS, I HAVE HIGH HOPES FOR YOU. YOU HAVE NOT POSTED ROLL. WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU??? I WILL FIND YOU AND POP YOU LIKE A ZIT....YOU DO NOT MISS ROLE. WE DON'T, AND NEITHER WILL YOU. PLEASE DO NOT TELL MYSELF AND OUR BROTHERS IN ARMS HERE TO "GO PHUCK OURSELVES"...WE WILL NOT PUT UP WITH IT.
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Happy Memorial Day Quitters!
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Site Update:
mns36, SamCat, jjs CatFish added to the Brotherhood page: http://www.killthecan.org/about/brotherhood.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/about/brotherhood.asp)
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Site Update:
mns36, SamCat, jjs CatFish added to the Brotherhood page: http://www.killthecan.org/about/brotherhood.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/about/brotherhood.asp)
Going on 16 years of a 2 cans per day copenhagen habit. I'm wanting/hoping/scared to quit. Not sure where to begin and having a little trouble navigating through the QSX site.
lawdog
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Site Update:
mns36, SamCat, jjs CatFish added to the Brotherhood page: http://www.killthecan.org/about/brotherhood.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/about/brotherhood.asp)
Going on 16 years of a 2 cans per day copenhagen habit. I'm wanting/hoping/scared to quit. Not sure where to begin and having a little trouble navigating through the QSX site.
lawdog
lawdog, There is all the information you need in the Welcome section on the KTC cover page. First you have to register if you have not already and wait for an admin. to approve your registration which should happen within a short time. Next you sign into quit groups and you will be posting your promise each day to stay quit. You will be in the Sept. 2010 group. Next you have to READ, READ, READ, and stay close to this site. Withdrawls SUCK. the nic will be out of your system in 3 days. After that it is all mental. EMbrace the SUCK!!!! I was a cope junkie for over 30 years and am 643 days quit. If I can dot this shit so can you!!!! Welcome!!!!1. If you need anything or a phone# send me a PM. Click on inbox upper right hand corner to send messages.
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Sorry for the delay in posting HOF speeches... there's a whole SLEW of new ones posted. GREAT stuff in there.
Enjoy quitters!
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Site Update:
mns36, SamCat, jjs CatFish added to the Brotherhood page: http://www.killthecan.org/about/brotherhood.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/about/brotherhood.asp)
Going on 16 years of a 2 cans per day copenhagen habit. I'm wanting/hoping/scared to quit. Not sure where to begin and having a little trouble navigating through the QSX site.
lawdog
lawdog, There is all the information you need in the Welcome section on the KTC cover page. First you have to register if you have not already and wait for an admin. to approve your registration which should happen within a short time. Next you sign into quit groups and you will be posting your promise each day to stay quit. You will be in the Sept. 2010 group. Next you have to READ, READ, READ, and stay close to this site. Withdrawls SUCK. the nic will be out of your system in 3 days. After that it is all mental. EMbrace the SUCK!!!! I was a cope junkie for over 30 years and am 643 days quit. If I can dot this shit so can you!!!! Welcome!!!!1. If you need anything or a phone# send me a PM. Click on inbox upper right hand corner to send messages.
kdip - thanks for the reply. Guess I was a little surprised someone would respond - that helps. I'll shoot for joining the September group.
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I'm a moron...
'help'
Can someone please remind me where the thread is that says where everyone is from? I know I've seen it before, because I posted in it once.
I'm headed up to the Saginaw, MI area in July wanted to see if we had any quitters stationed somewhere in the area.
Thanks in advance!
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I'm a moron...
'help'
Can someone please remind me where the thread is that says where everyone is from? I know I've seen it before, because I posted in it once.
I'm headed up to the Saginaw, MI area in July wanted to see if we had any quitters stationed somewhere in the area.
Thanks in advance!
index.php?showtopic=331 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=331)
Enjoyed lunch today Mitch.
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A little late, but I just wanted to say Happy Father's day to the dads out there... hope you had a great one!
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New blog post: It Keeps Getting Better
http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=427 (http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=427)
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A little late, but I just wanted to say Happy Father's day to the dads out there... hope you had a great one!
Same to you sir. It was my first dip free one and it was great.
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A little late, but I just wanted to say Happy Father's day to the dads out there... hope you had a great one!
Same to you sir. It was my first dip free one and it was great.
Kind of cool isn't it? No longer having to sneak away from your kids to grab a dip is a very liberating experience.
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Hope everyone had a great dip-free weekend. Remember, Monday isn't the beginning of another dreaded work week, it's the beginning of ANOTHER dip-free week!
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Hope everyone had a great dip-free weekend. Remember, Monday isn't the beginning of another dreaded work week, it's the beginning of ANOTHER dip-free week!
Today is my day 1. Having trouble figuring out the whole roll call thing. I gave it a shot and hopefully didn't screw something up.
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Hope everyone had a great dip-free weekend. Remember, Monday isn't the beginning of another dreaded work week, it's the beginning of ANOTHER dip-free week!
Today is my day 1. Having trouble figuring out the whole roll call thing. I gave it a shot and hopefully didn't screw something up.
You did it correctly! Welcome to the site and your quit!
Let us know if you need anything... stick close to the site and you'll be well on your way to freedom.
chewie
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Congrats to All as we hit 750,000 posts earlier this week . . . Any Idea who got that trophy?
I think we should set a goal of 1,000,000 before the end of the year. Hell if 1/2 of the 5000 members post daily, we will easily hit that target.
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If you've never seen it, check out the URGENT: Help Needed thread in the Quit Groups: index.php?showtopic=267 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=267)
This thread was used exactly the way it was intended yesterday afternoon. Read through some of the posts in there and recognize the power of what happened there.
Proof positive that this shit works if you let it.
chewie
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I'd like to share a magic and secret formula for breaking free of the Nicotine Slave Master. Unfortunately, there isn't one. The formula is simple:
1) Close the Door on Dip.
2) Join this forum.
3) Post roll every day and be accountable.
4) Read HOF speeches.
5) Participate in as many threads as possible. At least for the 1st year, your post total should exceed your days quit.
6) Deal with craves and triggers one at the time any way you have to except with nicotine.
It's like eating an elephant; you have to do it one bite at a time. You can't eat one all at one time and you can't commit to being dip-free forever. We only have today and can only deal with it.
And, ladies gents, it DOES get better. Much, much better. One day dip will have no part of your day.
GET FREE!
Euty ~ Day 1,400 nicotine-FREE
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I'd like to share a magic and secret formula for breaking free of the Nicotine Slave Master. Unfortunately, there isn't one. The formula is simple:
1) Close the Door on Dip.
2) Join this forum.
3) Post roll every day and be accountable.
4) Read HOF speeches.
5) Participate in as many threads as possible. At least for the 1st year, your post total should exceed your days quit.
6) Deal with craves and triggers one at the time any way you have to except with nicotine.
It's like eating an elephant; you have to do it one bite at a time. You can't eat one all at one time and you can't commit to being dip-free forever. We only have today and can only deal with it.
And, ladies gents, it DOES get better. Much, much better. One day dip will have no part of your day.
GET FREE!
Euty ~ Day 1,400 nicotine-FREE
Congrats on 1400 to UT from QT!!!
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Hope everyone has a happy, safe, dip-free holiday weekend!
God bless the USA.
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Hey just wanted to thank Sioux, BBJ, ODT, QT, 2 mcs, and all the old timers who help everyone here get and stay quit. I thank you for helping me get quit and today I celebrate 3 years quit, Thanks again JJ
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Hey just wanted to thank Sioux, BBJ, ODT, QT, 2 mcs, and all the old timers who help everyone here get and stay quit. I thank you for helping me get quit and today I celebrate 3 years quit, Thanks again JJ
Three years! That is awesome!!! Congratulations JJ. B)
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Hey just wanted to thank Sioux, BBJ, ODT, QT, 2 mcs, and all the old timers who help everyone here get and stay quit. I thank you for helping me get quit and today I celebrate 3 years quit, Thanks again JJ
Three years! That is awesome!!! Congratulations JJ. B)
Three years indeed! Well done JJ!
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Looking for some input - How did you find the site?
index.php?showtopic=3569 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=3569)
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i've been helping a newbie with his quit and i need some assistance from some of you YOUNG successful quitters. i'm concerned he is going to cave and i think a lot of this is due to his age. he is young (20) and pretty new to chewing (6 months) but not to nicotene (smoked for a couple of years). i don't feel he WANTS to quit bad enough or has the years of WANTING to quit like i did. i'm 40 with 20 yrs. of the dipping that shit. can anyone help me out?? if so, send me a PM so i can get you in touch with this guy ASAP. thanks!
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i've been helping a newbie with his quit and i need some assistance from some of you YOUNG successful quitters. i'm concerned he is going to cave and i think a lot of this is due to his age. he is young (20) and pretty new to chewing (6 months) but not to nicotene (smoked for a couple of years). i don't feel he WANTS to quit bad enough or has the years of WANTING to quit like i did. i'm 40 with 20 yrs. of the dipping that shit. can anyone help me out?? if so, send me a PM so i can get you in touch with this guy ASAP. thanks!
Send him to these two links:
http://whyquit.com/whyquit/SeanMarsee.html (http://whyquit.com/whyquit/SeanMarsee.html)
http://whyquit.com/whyquit/A_Gruen.html (http://whyquit.com/whyquit/A_Gruen.html)
They were both younger than your boy.
The first ended up dead, the second got a permanent reminder of "wasted youth"
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i've been helping a newbie with his quit and i need some assistance from some of you YOUNG successful quitters. i'm concerned he is going to cave and i think a lot of this is due to his age. he is young (20) and pretty new to chewing (6 months) but not to nicotene (smoked for a couple of years). i don't feel he WANTS to quit bad enough or has the years of WANTING to quit like i did. i'm 40 with 20 yrs. of the dipping that shit. can anyone help me out?? if so, send me a PM so i can get you in touch with this guy ASAP. thanks!
Send him to these two links:
http://whyquit.com/whyquit/SeanMarsee.html (http://whyquit.com/whyquit/SeanMarsee.html)
http://whyquit.com/whyquit/A_Gruen.html (http://whyquit.com/whyquit/A_Gruen.html)
They were both younger than your boy.
The first ended up dead, the second got a permanent reminder of "wasted youth"
thanks man! i just sent him these links. hopefully a successful young quitter from KTC will also respond so i can put the 2 of them together.
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New blog post: What is Help
http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=434 (http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=434)
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New blog post: WhatÂ’s In A Name
http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=430 (http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=430)
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New blog post: Rest In Peace Buddyboy
http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=439 (http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=439)
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Looking for member input on this new poll: index.php?showtopic=3658 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=3658)
The Cost Of A Can
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So I just got suspended from Quit Smokeless . org. Have no idea what I did to piss someone off there, but obviously I pissed someone off enough to get suspended without notice from the powers that be.
I'm kinda irked about it cause I have no way to contact a few very good friends there.
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So I just got suspended from Quit Smokeless . org. Have no idea what I did to piss someone off there, but obviously I pissed someone off enough to get suspended without notice from the powers that be.
I'm kinda irked about it cause I have no way to contact a few very good friends there.
not the first time it's happened over there... :rolleyes:
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So I just got suspended from Quit Smokeless . org. Have no idea what I did to piss someone off there, but obviously I pissed someone off enough to get suspended without notice from the powers that be.
I'm kinda irked about it cause I have no way to contact a few very good friends there.
not the first time it's happened over there... :rolleyes:
Yea I know that's how this place got started.
I really thought it wouldn't happen to me, but I'm proven dead wrong.
Looks like I've been suspended/banned based on IP address so I'm probably screwed with getting a hold of them.
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So I just got suspended from Quit Smokeless . org. Have no idea what I did to piss someone off there, but obviously I pissed someone off enough to get suspended without notice from the powers that be.
I'm kinda irked about it cause I have no way to contact a few very good friends there.
not the first time it's happened over there... :rolleyes:
Yea I know that's how this place got started.
I really thought it wouldn't happen to me, but I'm proven dead wrong.
Looks like I've been suspended/banned based on IP address so I'm probably screwed with getting a hold of them.
Wow, what did you do? Any idea?
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So I just got suspended from Quit Smokeless . org. Have no idea what I did to piss someone off there, but obviously I pissed someone off enough to get suspended without notice from the powers that be.
I'm kinda irked about it cause I have no way to contact a few very good friends there.
not the first time it's happened over there... :rolleyes:
Yea I know that's how this place got started.
I really thought it wouldn't happen to me, but I'm proven dead wrong.
Looks like I've been suspended/banned based on IP address so I'm probably screwed with getting a hold of them.
Wow, what did you do? Any idea?
I tried getting in also and get "account suspended". I did nothing wrong.
Strange thing though is I tried going in through some proxi's and couldn't get in either. I wonder if the site is down and not just individual accounts.
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So I just got suspended from Quit Smokeless . org. Have no idea what I did to piss someone off there, but obviously I pissed someone off enough to get suspended without notice from the powers that be.
I'm kinda irked about it cause I have no way to contact a few very good friends there.
not the first time it's happened over there... :rolleyes:
Yea I know that's how this place got started.
I really thought it wouldn't happen to me, but I'm proven dead wrong.
Looks like I've been suspended/banned based on IP address so I'm probably screwed with getting a hold of them.
Wow, what did you do? Any idea?
I tried getting in also and get "account suspended". I did nothing wrong.
Strange thing though is I tried going in through some proxi's and couldn't get in either. I wonder if the site is down and not just individual accounts.
Yes I got it confirmed from Killer Attorney that the site is down. Hopefully they'll resolve the problem soon.
There are a few people there that I have no way to contact except through my PM inbox. I'm gonna get those phone numbers and write them down somewhere else just in case.
Thanks to killer for the quick phone call.
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So I just got suspended from Quit Smokeless . org. Have no idea what I did to piss someone off there, but obviously I pissed someone off enough to get suspended without notice from the powers that be.
I'm kinda irked about it cause I have no way to contact a few very good friends there.
not the first time it's happened over there... :rolleyes:
Yea I know that's how this place got started.
I really thought it wouldn't happen to me, but I'm proven dead wrong.
Looks like I've been suspended/banned based on IP address so I'm probably screwed with getting a hold of them.
Wow, what did you do? Any idea?
I tried getting in also and get "account suspended". I did nothing wrong.
Strange thing though is I tried going in through some proxi's and couldn't get in either. I wonder if the site is down and not just individual accounts.
Yes I got it confirmed from Killer Attorney that the site is down. Hopefully they'll resolve the problem soon.
There are a few people there that I have no way to contact except through my PM inbox. I'm gonna get those phone numbers and write them down somewhere else just in case.
Thanks to killer for the quick phone call.
I guess flav forgot to pay the light bill huh?
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So I just got suspended from Quit Smokeless . org. Have no idea what I did to piss someone off there, but obviously I pissed someone off enough to get suspended without notice from the powers that be.
I'm kinda irked about it cause I have no way to contact a few very good friends there.
not the first time it's happened over there... :rolleyes:
Yea I know that's how this place got started.
I really thought it wouldn't happen to me, but I'm proven dead wrong.
Looks like I've been suspended/banned based on IP address so I'm probably screwed with getting a hold of them.
Wow, what did you do? Any idea?
I tried getting in also and get "account suspended". I did nothing wrong.
Strange thing though is I tried going in through some proxi's and couldn't get in either. I wonder if the site is down and not just individual accounts.
Yes I got it confirmed from Killer Attorney that the site is down. Hopefully they'll resolve the problem soon.
There are a few people there that I have no way to contact except through my PM inbox. I'm gonna get those phone numbers and write them down somewhere else just in case.
Thanks to killer for the quick phone call.
I guess flav forgot to pay the light bill huh?
Yeah, it's back up. I didn't know whether to feel special or like a pariah....
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i've been helping a newbie with his quit and i need some assistance from some of you YOUNG successful quitters. i'm concerned he is going to cave and i think a lot of this is due to his age. he is young (20) and pretty new to chewing (6 months) but not to nicotene (smoked for a couple of years). i don't feel he WANTS to quit bad enough or has the years of WANTING to quit like i did. i'm 40 with 20 yrs. of the dipping that shit. can anyone help me out?? if so, send me a PM so i can get you in touch with this guy ASAP. thanks!
Send him to these two links:
http://whyquit.com/whyquit/SeanMarsee.html (http://whyquit.com/whyquit/SeanMarsee.html)
http://whyquit.com/whyquit/A_Gruen.html (http://whyquit.com/whyquit/A_Gruen.html)
They were both younger than your boy.
The first ended up dead, the second got a permanent reminder of "wasted youth"
thanks man! i just sent him these links. hopefully a successful young quitter from KTC will also respond so i can put the 2 of them together.
hey guys, i'm a 19 year old going into my sophomore year of college and i recently quit dip 9 days ago after dipping since i was 14 and am having trouble with keeping up with quitting. i play college baseball and had surgery on my shoulder in june so i can't work out much at all to cut the cravings. another thing is that i've gained some weight over the last 9 days which is something i really don't want. if anyone has any advice please help me out. thanks a ton
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hello to all
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hello to all
hi
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The mornings are the worst with out the Dip, but at least I will have fresh breath until lunch time.....
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The mornings are the worst with out the Dip, but at least I will have fresh breath until lunch time.....
Duhonsr, Congrats on the best decision you will ever make!!!! The longer you stay off this crap, the less you will miss it - morning included!!!! Quitting SUCKS!!! BUT it is WORTH all the pain you have to go through to get your life back! You can DO this ONE DAY at a time!!! We can help!
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The mornings are the worst with out the Dip, but at least I will have fresh breath until lunch time.....
Duhonsr, Congrats on the best decision you will ever make!!!! The longer you stay off this crap, the less you will miss it - morning included!!!! Quitting SUCKS!!! BUT it is WORTH all the pain you have to go through to get your life back! You can DO this ONE DAY at a time!!! We can help!
Thanks Kdip, with help its always easier to keep pushing on.....
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Im quit today!
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Im quit today!
I'm quit with you today Brad!!!!
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Any Kansas folks up in here?
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Any Kansas folks up in here?
Yes indeed - quite a few actually: index.php?showtopic=331 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=331)
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Any Kansas folks up in here?
I grew up in Olathe! (Live in St. Louis now, though...)
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Any Kansas folks up in here?
I grew up in Olathe! (Live in St. Louis now, though...)
I live in Olathe
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Any Kansas folks up in here?
I grew up in Olathe! (Live in St. Louis now, though...)
I live in Olathe
Any Kansas folks up in here?
I grew up in Olathe! (Live in St. Louis now, though...)
I live in Olathe
In Emporia here!
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Any Kansas folks up in here?
I grew up in Olathe! (Live in St. Louis now, though...)
I live in Olathe
Any Kansas folks up in here?
I grew up in Olathe! (Live in St. Louis now, though...)
I live in Olathe
In Emporia here!
I got a cousin that lives in Emporia.
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Any Kansas folks up in here?
I grew up in Olathe! (Live in St. Louis now, though...)
I live in Olathe
Any Kansas folks up in here?
I grew up in Olathe! (Live in St. Louis now, though...)
I live in Olathe
In Emporia here!
I got a cousin that lives in Emporia.
I am in Shawnee, Dr bruce Banner is from North Kansas city. Radtech is from KC and Jadubz is from Raytown.
When do you want to have a KC meet?
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Any Kansas folks up in here?
I grew up in Olathe! (Live in St. Louis now, though...)
I live in Olathe
Any Kansas folks up in here?
I grew up in Olathe! (Live in St. Louis now, though...)
I live in Olathe
In Emporia here!
I got a cousin that lives in Emporia.
I am in Shawnee, Dr bruce Banner is from North Kansas city. Radtech is from KC and Jadubz is from Raytown.
When do you want to have a KC meet?
Yeah we should definitely set up a meet sometime. We should get some input from the other KC area guys.
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Any Kansas folks up in here?
I grew up in Olathe! (Live in St. Louis now, though...)
I live in Olathe
Any Kansas folks up in here?
I grew up in Olathe! (Live in St. Louis now, though...)
I live in Olathe
In Emporia here!
I got a cousin that lives in Emporia.
I am in Shawnee, Dr bruce Banner is from North Kansas city. Radtech is from KC and Jadubz is from Raytown.
When do you want to have a KC meet?
Yeah we should definitely set up a meet sometime. We should get some input from the other KC area guys.
I will be rolling through in October. I will let you guys know when. We gotta meet.
STAY QUIT
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Hey everyone! total newby here. Today is day 4 for me without a dip. I tis getting tough now, but the cravings are not as hard to deal with as the last couple of days. I still find myself when driving, working or after eating wanting a dip. I have found I am almost in a fog and very irritable, not sure is this a ll part of it?
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Hey everyone! total newby here. Today is day 4 for me without a dip. I tis getting tough now, but the cravings are not as hard to deal with as the last couple of days. I still find myself when driving, working or after eating wanting a dip. I have found I am almost in a fog and very irritable, not sure is this a ll part of it?
Toxic, you are right n the middle of it now. It gets better but it will still be tough. First thing, get over to the November quit group and post up. This will be your support group on the way to the HOF.
Do this everyday and take it one day at a time.
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HI There! I am a loving wife trying to support my husband with his quit...he chewed for 25 years (he's 41)...what do I need to do or what do I need to STOP doing? Currently I am doing all the wrong things :-(
Need help! Thanks for the input...
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HI There! I am a loving wife trying to support my husband with his quit...he chewed for 25 years (he's 41)...what do I need to do or what do I need to STOP doing? Currently I am doing all the wrong things :-(
Need help! Thanks for the input...
Welcome!
First off, check this out from the main site: http://www.killthecan.org/community/spouse.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/community/spouse.asp) titled Spousal Support.
Unfortunately, he needs to make this decision on his own. It's very frustrating I know but all you can do is be there for him WHEN he's ready to quit.
You may want to point him here if you think he'll stop by, and if you/he are facebook users you can visit us there as well: http://facebook.com/killthecan.org (http://facebook.com/killthecan.org)
Let us know how we can help.
chewie
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Thank you! Oh, he quit...made the decision on his own (our daughter quit her Bunny (a blanket that she sucked like a pacifier)...I'm talking about supporting him now that he has quit...he's suffering withdrawal symptoms pretty badly, I think.
They are BOTH going through withdrawal!!!
I will check out the spouse sight...thanks so much!
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Thank you! Oh, he quit...made the decision on his own (our daughter quit her Bunny (a blanket that she sucked like a pacifier)...I'm talking about supporting him now that he has quit...he's suffering withdrawal symptoms pretty badly, I think.
They are BOTH going through withdrawal!!!
I will check out the spouse sight...thanks so much!
It is going to be difficult for him and for you. Like Chewie says read the spousal support page. I would mention the site to him and see what he thinks. Many of us are unwilling to admit we needed a site like this or needed anyone to help us quit.
This site WILL help him stay quit if that is what he wants to do. Don't push too hard, the results can be less than desireable.
Let us know if we can help.
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Hey everyone! total newby here. Today is day 4 for me without a dip. I tis getting tough now, but the cravings are not as hard to deal with as the last couple of days. I still find myself when driving, working or after eating wanting a dip. I have found I am almost in a fog and very irritable, not sure is this a ll part of it?
Toxic, you are right n the middle of it now. It gets better but it will still be tough. First thing, get over to the November quit group and post up. This will be your support group on the way to the HOF.
Do this everyday and take it one day at a time.
Well toxic if you are still around and still wanting to quit today will be last day to post for november tomarrow starts of december. if you need help on how to post roll just p.m. and I will let you know. If you need help with anything else let me know.
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Hey everyone! total newby here. Today is day 4 for me without a dip. I tis getting tough now, but the cravings are not as hard to deal with as the last couple of days. I still find myself when driving, working or after eating wanting a dip. I have found I am almost in a fog and very irritable, not sure is this a ll part of it?
Toxic, you are right n the middle of it now. It gets better but it will still be tough. First thing, get over to the November quit group and post up. This will be your support group on the way to the HOF.
Do this everyday and take it one day at a time.
Well toxic if you are still around and still wanting to quit today will be last day to post for november tomarrow starts of december. if you need help on how to post roll just p.m. and I will let you know. If you need help with anything else let me know.
i know how this guy feels i am still trying to figure everything out on this sight but want to let everyone know it has helped just knowing their are outhers going through the same thing that has my back
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this is tough im actually on day 1 and its worse than i thought it would be,the weird lightheaded feeling and extremem cravings are hard to handle.....it kinda feels really good knowing i can do the the things i used to do with dip and dont need it at all,i know its only been a day and i hope i can continue to stay strong and be tough...... 'Finger' u dip i dont need you anymore its time to 'Remshot' that bear on the grizzly can and quit once and for all
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this is tough im actually on day 1 and its worse than i thought it would be,the weird lightheaded feeling and extremem cravings are hard to handle.....it kinda feels really good knowing i can do the the things i used to do with dip and dont need it at all,i know its only been a day and i hope i can continue to stay strong and be tough...... 'Finger' u dip i dont need you anymore its time to 'Remshot' that bear on the grizzly can and quit once and for all
Good choice deciding to quit. In fact, it's the best decision you've ever made. Stay strong. Day 2 is no joke, and Day 3 sucks too. In fact, it's going to suck for you for the next few weeks, but...IT DOES GET BETTER!
"and i hope i can continue to stay strong"
Not a lot of hoping around here. There is doing. There is quitting. Post roll, and keep your word. Hope is for pussies. Don't put the lip turd in your face today...we'll worry about tomorrow, tomorrow.
Find the December group and post roll.
If you need help, there are a whole lot of guys here ready to quit with you, including me. If you want help, just PM me.
Stay strong, stay quit, and we'll see you for day 2.
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Any Kansas folks up in here?
I grew up in Olathe! (Live in St. Louis now, though...)
I live in Olathe
Any Kansas folks up in here?
I grew up in Olathe! (Live in St. Louis now, though...)
I live in Olathe
In Emporia here!
I got a cousin that lives in Emporia.
I am in Shawnee, Dr bruce Banner is from North Kansas city. Radtech is from KC and Jadubz is from Raytown.
When do you want to have a KC meet?
Yeah we should definitely set up a meet sometime. We should get some input from the other KC area guys.
I will be rolling through in October. I will let you guys know when. We gotta meet.
STAY QUIT
all in
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Any Kansas folks up in here?
I grew up in Olathe! (Live in St. Louis now, though...)
I live in Olathe
Any Kansas folks up in here?
I grew up in Olathe! (Live in St. Louis now, though...)
I live in Olathe
In Emporia here!
I got a cousin that lives in Emporia.
I am in Shawnee, Dr bruce Banner is from North Kansas city. Radtech is from KC and Jadubz is from Raytown.
When do you want to have a KC meet?
Yeah we should definitely set up a meet sometime. We should get some input from the other KC area guys.
I will be rolling through in October. I will let you guys know when. We gotta meet.
STAY QUIT
all in
If I can get my deck built in time, I might just try to roll thru there whenever Greg is in town. It's been awhile, and I'm interested to see what the new PL District looks like...
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ehhh
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Good Morning,I am new here and tossed the snuff 6 days ago
it is getting difficult.But if others have done I can TO.What phases will I encounter
that are ahead of me.I know I will need guidance.
Thanks Jeff
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Good Morning,I am new here and tossed the snuff 6 days ago
it is getting difficult.But if others have done I can TO.What phases will I encounter
that are ahead of me.I know I will need guidance.
Thanks Jeff
Jeff,
THere is a ton of stuff to read but I would suggest starting here.
http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/what.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/what.asp)
I would also suggest reading this:
http://www.killthecan.org/community/welcome.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/community/welcome.asp)
Then go over and post roll with your December brothers. This is not going to be easy but it's worth it. Stay close to the site, you can do this.
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I am Holding hard To my Word Brothers.I know I can beat this with the
support of this site and you all.
Thanks for backing Me
Jeff
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Hey guys, I'm on the verge of quitting and plan on my first full day without dip to be tomorrow and let me say I am a little anxious about it....I've dipped everyday for the past decade and realize that for my sanity, health and kids, i need to quit. I'm really looking forward to using this site to help in my path to being a quitter!!!
It's very assuring to see so many people on here battling with the same issues I do now and will face in the months to come.
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Hey guys, I'm on the verge of quitting and plan on my first full day without dip to be tomorrow and let me say I am a little anxious about it....I've dipped everyday for the past decade and realize that for my sanity, health and kids, i need to quit. I'm really looking forward to using this site to help in my path to being a quitter!!!
It's very assuring to see so many people on here battling with the same issues I do now and will face in the months to come.
Why don't you cancel the marathon dipping session you have planned for tonight and dump the can and quit right now. We are all quit with you tonight.
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Hey guys, I'm on the verge of quitting and plan on my first full day without dip to be tomorrow and let me say I am a little anxious about it....I've dipped everyday for the past decade and realize that for my sanity, health and kids, i need to quit. I'm really looking forward to using this site to help in my path to being a quitter!!!
It's very assuring to see so many people on here battling with the same issues I do now and will face in the months to come.
Why don't you cancel the marathon dipping session you have planned for tonight and dump the can and quit right now. We are all quit with you tonight.
Awww c'mon MikeA...you wouldn't deprive a brotha from the last marathon dip session now would you?
Dump the can doosh.
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Hey guys, I'm on the verge of quitting and plan on my first full day without dip to be tomorrow and let me say I am a little anxious about it....I've dipped everyday for the past decade and realize that for my sanity, health and kids, i need to quit. I'm really looking forward to using this site to help in my path to being a quitter!!!
It's very assuring to see so many people on here battling with the same issues I do now and will face in the months to come.
Why don't you cancel the marathon dipping session you have planned for tonight and dump the can and quit right now. We are all quit with you tonight.
Awww c'mon MikeA...you wouldn't deprive a brotha from the last marathon dip session now would you?
Dump the can doosh.
LOOT is right. Dump the can!
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Hey guys, I'm on the verge of quitting and plan on my first full day without dip to be tomorrow and let me say I am a little anxious about it....I've dipped everyday for the past decade and realize that for my sanity, health and kids, i need to quit. I'm really looking forward to using this site to help in my path to being a quitter!!!
It's very assuring to see so many people on here battling with the same issues I do now and will face in the months to come.
Why don't you cancel the marathon dipping session you have planned for tonight and dump the can and quit right now. We are all quit with you tonight.
Awww c'mon MikeA...you wouldn't deprive a brotha from the last marathon dip session now would you?
Dump the can doosh.
LOOT is right. Dump the can!
You guys deprived it from me. If I can do it so can dipnomore which needs to be named dipsomemore tonight.
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So, where are you dipnomore?
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So, where are you dipnomore?
Still fingerbanging the tin...
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New blog post: A Chance Meeting
http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=447 (http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=447)
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Hey guys.....well, new to this site as of today and had my last chew FOREVER, on Monday night at 8:32pm so today is Wednesday and I am almost through day 2. Glad I found this site and all the support, I feel I am going to need it! I will be of as much support as I can to all of you the same way. Here is to banging my head against the wall called "quitting." 'bang head'
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Wazzup, strangers!
Why can't I change my pic?
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Wazzup, strangers!
Why can't I change my pic?
Send me what you want to change it to and I'll take care of it for you Steevo.
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Might want to check and clean out the pockets on those fall and winter jackets. Last night I put on my fall leather jacket to go for a ride on the motorcycle. In one pocket was a round container. I was a bit nervous to look. Not that I would use it, but just didn't want to be that close to this crap. Turns out it was a left over can of Mint Snuff from last year when my mouth hurt so bad that I "took a break".
So it reminded me of two things:
1) Clean out those hiding places (might be interesting to hear where you all have hid this crap)
2) How stupid I was that instead of thinking I needed to quit last year because my mouth hurt, I just switched to mint so my gums could heal a bit.
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Might want to check and clean out the pockets on those fall and winter jackets. Last night I put on my fall leather jacket to go for a ride on the motorcycle. In one pocket was a round container. I was a bit nervous to look. Not that I would use it, but just didn't want to be that close to this crap. Turns out it was a left over can of Mint Snuff from last year when my mouth hurt so bad that I "took a break".
So it reminded me of two things:
1) Clean out those hiding places (might be interesting to hear where you all have hid this crap)
2) How stupid I was that instead of thinking I needed to quit last year because my mouth hurt, I just switched to mint so my gums could heal a bit.
This is OUTSTANDING advice. I was quit for over 2 years when I ran across a can in a shoebox in the bottom of my closet. Fucking mind of an addict hiding shit all over the house.
Never again for any reason...
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Where does MikeA hang out in here? I didn't see any groups called Blue Oyster or anything, but I know he's in here somewhere...
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Where does MikeA hang out in here? I didn't see any groups called Blue Oyster or anything, but I know he's in here somewhere...
Pelican,
He is an April 2010 HOF'er. You can find him in there... He is in Chat quite often also.
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Hey guys name cooper been dipping sense i was 15 now im all most 18 just need some help this is the 4th time i tired quitting and i want it to be the last its for the gf she doesnt mind it but i just feel it would be a nice thing to do for her. Because i learned somthing every one else doesnt like my thick dark spit as much as you do. Just looking for some help thanks you.
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Hey guys name cooper been dipping sense i was 15 now im all most 18 just need some help this is the 4th time i tired quitting and i want it to be the last its for the gf she doesnt mind it but i just feel it would be a nice thing to do for her. Because i learned somthing every one else doesnt like my thick dark spit as much as you do. Just looking for some help thanks you.
Hey Cooper. I recently found this site and I can tell you it works great. One thing I am sure you will hear when it comes to what you are talking about is that though you want to quit, you need a solid reason (more likely than just making the gf happy). One thing I can tell you is that you are already ahead of the curve when it comes to knowing you need to quit early. I have dipped for 7 years and others have dipped for decades. THe longer you dip the harder it gets I am sure you know.
You need to really think about the ups and downs of dipping. Sure it makes you happy, but think of 10-15 years down the line when you would literally chop off your nuts before you would stop dipping. It gets that bad. Imagine your future daughter at her wedding and no dad to have in her father daughter dance. Imagine if it happened even sooner than that and having your parents find out that you have to have your tongue removed. It is just a series of bad events that are bound to happen sooner or later.
The biggest thing for me.. is that I have tainted life. Because I dipped for so long, I can not imagine doing anything without it. Life has become plain. That scares the hell out of me and I am trying to find the light without dip. I am not trying to scare you or anything, but all of these things will become a reality just so you can have some shredded leaves in your mouth.
Read through the site. Join a quit group. You will be in mine if you do. YOu will have all the support you need to get quit. I am going to need it myself. But find a great reason to quit. And when you get a craving remember what that reason is. Hope this helped.
-Kyle (gunderwear)
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Might want to check and clean out the pockets on those fall and winter jackets. Last night I put on my fall leather jacket to go for a ride on the motorcycle. In one pocket was a round container. I was a bit nervous to look. Not that I would use it, but just didn't want to be that close to this crap. Turns out it was a left over can of Mint Snuff from last year when my mouth hurt so bad that I "took a break".Â
So it reminded me of two things:
1)Â Clean out those hiding places (might be interesting to hear where you all have hid this crap)
2)Â How stupid I was that instead of thinking I needed to quit last year because my mouth hurt, I just switched to mint so my gums could heal a bit.
This is OUTSTANDING advice. I was quit for over 2 years when I ran across a can in a shoebox in the bottom of my closet. Fucking mind of an addict hiding shit all over the house.
Never again for any reason...
I personally love the use in here of the phrase "never again" :wub:
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Hey guys.....well, new to this site as of today and had my last chew FOREVER, on Monday night at 8:32pm so today is Wednesday and I am almost through day 2. Glad I found this site and all the support, I feel I am going to need it! I will be of as much support as I can to all of you the same way. Here is to banging my head against the wall called "quitting." 'bang head'
another one bites the dust??
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I don't want to quit, but I know I need to. How do I make myself quit?
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I don't want to quit, but I know I need to. How do I make myself quit?
Try dipping to the point of getting oral cancer. That may make you "want" to quit.
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I don't want to quit, but I know I need to. How do I make myself quit?
When you lose half your face and jaw then you'll know what to do...
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I don't want to quit, but I know I need to. How do I make myself quit?
Try dipping to the point of getting oral cancer. That may make you "want" to quit.
Put your big boy pants on and come back when you are serious. There is some bad ass quitting going on around here and the serious guys do not need your shit.
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I don't want to quit, but I know I need to. How do I make myself quit?
Try dipping to the point of getting oral cancer. That may make you "want" to quit.
even still I would want to dip.
I'm being serious. I don't want cancer, I don't want nicotine pumping through my otherwise healthy veins, I don't want to spend $5 a day, I don't want beuger's disease, I don't want a 'redneck' label.
I guess I love the product, but hate the addiction. Did anyone else here start out like that? What advice is there?
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I don't want to quit, but I know I need to. How do I make myself quit?
Try dipping to the point of getting oral cancer. That may make you "want" to quit.
even still I would want to dip.
I'm being serious. I don't want cancer, I don't want nicotine pumping through my otherwise healthy veins, I don't want to spend $5 a day, I don't want beuger's disease, I don't want a 'redneck' label.
I guess I love the product, but hate the addiction. Did anyone else here start out like that? What advice is there?
bottom line, it will never work until you want to quit. I "tried" quitting many times...thought it was what I should be doing. Thought it was what my wife wanted. Thought it would be best for my health. Each time I went in with that mind set I failed and so will you.
You change your mind and decide you want to quit, well then you come back and we will do everything possible to help.
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I don't want to quit, but I know I need to. How do I make myself quit?
Try dipping to the point of getting oral cancer. That may make you "want" to quit.
Put your big boy pants on and come back when you are serious. There is some bad ass quitting going on around here and the serious guys do not need your shit.
big boy pants? listen man....all of these 'badass quitters' were in my shoes once. You all dipped, and you liked it. it tasted good mostly, and it helped you relax. No reason to get high and mighty because you're not dipping anymore. You were exactly where I am once. I'm only asking: How do I get where you are?
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I don't want to quit, but I know I need to. How do I make myself quit?
Try dipping to the point of getting oral cancer. That may make you "want" to quit.
Put your big boy pants on and come back when you are serious. There is some bad ass quitting going on around here and the serious guys do not need your shit.
big boy pants? listen man....all of these 'badass quitters' were in my shoes once. You all dipped, and you liked it. it tasted good mostly, and it helped you relax. No reason to get high and mighty because you're not dipping anymore. You were exactly where I am once. I'm only asking: How do I get where you are?
I am only 9 days into my quit - how I got here is I chose to make a lifestyle change. Like you I had heard all the bad, the cost, the cancer, the slavery, the addiction - none of it made a difference. For whatever reason on 10/9/2010 at 5:00PM - I quit, period. Cold turkey - and will not look back.
I speak alot about telling everyone around me about quitting - including my wife - but I quit for me, for purely selfish reasons, my life. People around me knowing I am a quitter helps, I don't want to let them down but you got to look at the man in the mirror and decide. What do you like best - "the product" or yourself. It should be an easy decision.
The people on this site are harsh, yes - because they were you, they have fought the fog and the hurt and the suck and everything else I am just beginning to learn about (like not taking a shit for 5 days) - but we all chose to chew at one point and we all choose to quit. If these people are harsh - they have earned it - you want to earn it - quit chew, dip snuff or what ever, now cold turkey, get with a group, get support and listen to the harsh language and the put downs - the best one that got to me was "your a fuckin junkie addict, dick head". Perfectly true, perfectly acceptable, I will live with that for the rest of my life - I will just never dip again. The harshness and the roll call and the comraderie of this board help me stay quit. I make that promise everyday.
The way in is to quit.
Lee
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I don't want to quit, but I know I need to. How do I make myself quit?
Try dipping to the point of getting oral cancer. That may make you "want" to quit.
Put your big boy pants on and come back when you are serious. There is some bad ass quitting going on around here and the serious guys do not need your shit.
big boy pants? listen man....all of these 'badass quitters' were in my shoes once. You all dipped, and you liked it. it tasted good mostly, and it helped you relax. No reason to get high and mighty because you're not dipping anymore. You were exactly where I am once. I'm only asking: How do I get where you are?
You have to want to quit and you obviously do not want too you just feel you need to. You may be feeling sick right now, you have a mouth sore, you have chest pains, you have something in you that is telling you that you have to quit. Well guess what, once you quit you will feel so much better and in a few weeks the nic bitch will tell you that because you are feeling better and that it will be OK to dip a little and since you don't want to quit, you will dip a little and you will have wasted all of our time. We have seen it many times.
So like we said, you need to want to quit and want to be quit with us. We will help but you had better convince us that you are worth our time.
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I don't want to quit, but I know I need to. How do I make myself quit?
Try dipping to the point of getting oral cancer. That may make you "want" to quit.
Put your big boy pants on and come back when you are serious. There is some bad ass quitting going on around here and the serious guys do not need your shit.
big boy pants? listen man....all of these 'badass quitters' were in my shoes once. You all dipped, and you liked it. it tasted good mostly, and it helped you relax. No reason to get high and mighty because you're not dipping anymore. You were exactly where I am once. I'm only asking: How do I get where you are?
You have to want to quit and you obviously do not want too you just feel you need to. You may be feeling sick right now, you have a mouth sore, you have chest pains, you have something in you that is telling you that you have to quit. Well guess what, once you quit you will feel so much better and in a few weeks the nic bitch will tell you that because you are feeling better and that it will be OK to dip a little and since you don't want to quit, you will dip a little and you will have wasted all of our time. We have seen it many times.
So like we said, you need to want to quit and want to be quit with us. We will help but you had better convince us that you are worth our time.
So, no tricks or secrets whatsoever? just determination?
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I don't want to quit, but I know I need to. How do I make myself quit?
Try dipping to the point of getting oral cancer. That may make you "want" to quit.
Put your big boy pants on and come back when you are serious. There is some bad ass quitting going on around here and the serious guys do not need your shit.
big boy pants? listen man....all of these 'badass quitters' were in my shoes once. You all dipped, and you liked it. it tasted good mostly, and it helped you relax. No reason to get high and mighty because you're not dipping anymore. You were exactly where I am once. I'm only asking: How do I get where you are?
You have to want to quit and you obviously do not want too you just feel you need to. You may be feeling sick right now, you have a mouth sore, you have chest pains, you have something in you that is telling you that you have to quit. Well guess what, once you quit you will feel so much better and in a few weeks the nic bitch will tell you that because you are feeling better and that it will be OK to dip a little and since you don't want to quit, you will dip a little and you will have wasted all of our time. We have seen it many times.
So like we said, you need to want to quit and want to be quit with us. We will help but you had better convince us that you are worth our time.
So, no tricks or secrets whatsoever? just determination?
mikea did have a couple of tricks....he sucked off donkeys. Said gargling the seamen really took off the edge.
no babyB. There is no secret, nothing we are hiding. I know it sounds simple...but the way to quit is by not putting that shit in your mouth. That has worked for me for 210 days.
I would encourage you to look around the welcome center and read about roll and why we do it. When you are ready and WANT to quit...you post up your day 1. Then MIke will share with you the best way to get the donkey erect.
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I don't want to quit, but I know I need to. How do I make myself quit?
Try dipping to the point of getting oral cancer. That may make you "want" to quit.
Put your big boy pants on and come back when you are serious. There is some bad ass quitting going on around here and the serious guys do not need your shit.
big boy pants? listen man....all of these 'badass quitters' were in my shoes once. You all dipped, and you liked it. it tasted good mostly, and it helped you relax. No reason to get high and mighty because you're not dipping anymore. You were exactly where I am once. I'm only asking: How do I get where you are?
You have to want to quit and you obviously do not want too you just feel you need to. You may be feeling sick right now, you have a mouth sore, you have chest pains, you have something in you that is telling you that you have to quit. Well guess what, once you quit you will feel so much better and in a few weeks the nic bitch will tell you that because you are feeling better and that it will be OK to dip a little and since you don't want to quit, you will dip a little and you will have wasted all of our time. We have seen it many times.
So like we said, you need to want to quit and want to be quit with us. We will help but you had better convince us that you are worth our time.
So, no tricks or secrets whatsoever? just determination?
Determination and accountability is the name of the game around here. We all are in a quit group and we post roll call everyday saying to our quit brothers that we will not use nicotine that day. Our word is our bond. We we post roll and give our word we keep it. We do it all over again the next day and so on.
My word is as good as gold. How is your's?
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I don't want to quit, but I know I need to. How do I make myself quit?
Try dipping to the point of getting oral cancer. That may make you "want" to quit.
Put your big boy pants on and come back when you are serious. There is some bad ass quitting going on around here and the serious guys do not need your shit.
big boy pants? listen man....all of these 'badass quitters' were in my shoes once. You all dipped, and you liked it. it tasted good mostly, and it helped you relax. No reason to get high and mighty because you're not dipping anymore. You were exactly where I am once. I'm only asking: How do I get where you are?
You have to want to quit and you obviously do not want too you just feel you need to. You may be feeling sick right now, you have a mouth sore, you have chest pains, you have something in you that is telling you that you have to quit. Well guess what, once you quit you will feel so much better and in a few weeks the nic bitch will tell you that because you are feeling better and that it will be OK to dip a little and since you don't want to quit, you will dip a little and you will have wasted all of our time. We have seen it many times.
So like we said, you need to want to quit and want to be quit with us. We will help but you had better convince us that you are worth our time.
So, no tricks or secrets whatsoever? just determination?
Determination and accountability is the name of the game around here. We all are in a quit group and we post roll call everyday saying to our quit brothers that we will not use nicotine that day. Our word is our bond. We we post roll and give our word we keep it. We do it all over again the next day and so on.
My word is as good as gold. How is your's?
Yeah, you can say I once was in your shoes. I remember the time I felt I needed to quit, but not the want. It took nearly 30 more years and several half-assed attempts because I didn't really want it. It was "only" when I want and when I was damn determined to make this a serious high priority, finding this site and listening to every bad-ass quitter who went before me, that I was successful.
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"Love the product, hate the addiction?"...I think every quitter once thought that. Nobody can quit for you. YOU must quit. I knew I wanted to quit, but Copenhagen was so much a part of my routine...mowing the lawn, driving to or from work, outdoor activities, etc. I really just enjoyed dipping...really?!!
Nicotine is a powerful drug. Copenhagen WAS SLOWLY KILLING ME AND GOING TO DISFIGURE MY JAW AND FACE BEYOND RECOGNITION and I pretended it wasn't. I knew this, and yet I refused to change. I had convinced myself that I wasn't a "heavy dipper" so it was harmless, right? I knew it would be just a matter of time until my teeth fall out or "they find something." By the way, if that happens, you'd better get your affairs in order quit because you will die soon.
True, they can remove "the suspicious site," but that will take your tongue and/or part of your jaw. What a great life you will have, huh? Besides being disfigured, you will likely only give yourself an extra six months or so to live...it comes back...
We all know this will happen...yet we convince ourselves it won't, at least not to me. Here is the truth...the only way to prevent this is to quit. THE QUESTION IS HOW?!!
The key (at least for me) was finding my motivation. I found mine it in the faces on my children. I saw a TV show commemorating the victims of September 11th...a child who has managed the last 9 years without his father. And there it was...I quit right there on the spot. NO WAY WAS I GOING TO SEND MY SON THROUGH THIS CRAZY FUCKING WORLD WITHOUT HELPING HIM. I spit out my dip and quit right then and there...cold turkey.
Then I read about the Kern family...God bless the Kern family. Tom Kern died with his children at his feet pleading for him not to go as he lost his battle with cancer. Read their story. Read his children's story. Read their entries into their diaries about how much they miss their father when they were getting ready for prom, playing baseball, etc. Is that going to be your family's story?
That is the power of nicotine...it makes your think it is harmless while it is actually killing you and torturing the folks you care most for...your spouse, your young children, your parents, your friends.
Really? Still can't quit? It is too hard to quit, right? It makes you feel all nervous and jittery, or makes you crave? I just considered how my son would "crave" to have me around as he grows up...and how "jittery" he would be as his little body shook unconsolably as he cried over funeral or disfiguring surgery. That was my motivation.
Quitting sucks...you feel like crap, angry at the world, etc. But making the right decision for my family is the best feeling in the world. This site is here to help you...just read and read, post roll call everyday, and "stay quit" one day at a time. It sucks at first, of course, but this site will even walk you through that, too. This site is an endless supply of support for folks that truly want to kick the habbit.
Well, if my words can't motivate you to quit, then I'm sorry. I have failed you. And, by the way, I don't want to ever meet you because you will be another casualty of tobacco. And it is too upsetting to me to think I had the chance to save your life, but I failed...I let you and your family down.
But, if you read these words and it motivates you to quit, there is no charge, nor any need to thank me. YOU have just saved every future family Christmas, every first-day of school, every little girl's wedding day, every little league game, every...well, every fucking everything...for you and your family. Congrats!!!
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I don't want to quit, but I know I need to. How do I make myself quit?
Try dipping to the point of getting oral cancer. That may make you "want" to quit.
Put your big boy pants on and come back when you are serious. There is some bad ass quitting going on around here and the serious guys do not need your shit.
big boy pants? listen man....all of these 'badass quitters' were in my shoes once. You all dipped, and you liked it. it tasted good mostly, and it helped you relax. No reason to get high and mighty because you're not dipping anymore. You were exactly where I am once. I'm only asking: How do I get where you are?
You have to want to quit and you obviously do not want too you just feel you need to. You may be feeling sick right now, you have a mouth sore, you have chest pains, you have something in you that is telling you that you have to quit. Well guess what, once you quit you will feel so much better and in a few weeks the nic bitch will tell you that because you are feeling better and that it will be OK to dip a little and since you don't want to quit, you will dip a little and you will have wasted all of our time. We have seen it many times.
So like we said, you need to want to quit and want to be quit with us. We will help but you had better convince us that you are worth our time.
So, no tricks or secrets whatsoever? just determination?
Determination and accountability is the name of the game around here. We all are in a quit group and we post roll call everyday saying to our quit brothers that we will not use nicotine that day. Our word is our bond. We we post roll and give our word we keep it. We do it all over again the next day and so on.
My word is as good as gold. How is your's?
Yeah, you can say I once was in your shoes. I remember the time I felt I needed to quit, but not the want. It took nearly 30 more years and several half-assed attempts because I didn't really want it. It was "only" when I want and when I was damn determined to make this a serious high priority, finding this site and listening to every bad-ass quitter who went before me, that I was successful.
How do you deal with the moodiness associated with a withdrawal. My mood is great 'normally?' but on a withdrawal....to be honest, I'm afraid I may loose my job. I'm not necessarily abrassive, but I get this, "I'm not going to take any shit from anybody attitude," and I'm in a job where I have to take a lot of shit. How do you maintain the same mood when you quit?
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My mood is great 'normally?' but on a withdrawal....to be honest, I'm afraid I may loose my job.
If that's what it takes, then that's what it takes.
And no... I'm not joking. IF you're ready to quit, then you must be ready to quit. Period end of story. THAT becomes your job.
This is quite literally a fight for your life. When you're ready to fight, we'll help.
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I don't want to quit, but I know I need to. How do I make myself quit?
Try dipping to the point of getting oral cancer. That may make you "want" to quit.
Put your big boy pants on and come back when you are serious. There is some bad ass quitting going on around here and the serious guys do not need your shit.
big boy pants? listen man....all of these 'badass quitters' were in my shoes once. You all dipped, and you liked it. it tasted good mostly, and it helped you relax. No reason to get high and mighty because you're not dipping anymore. You were exactly where I am once. I'm only asking: How do I get where you are?
You have to want to quit and you obviously do not want too you just feel you need to. You may be feeling sick right now, you have a mouth sore, you have chest pains, you have something in you that is telling you that you have to quit. Well guess what, once you quit you will feel so much better and in a few weeks the nic bitch will tell you that because you are feeling better and that it will be OK to dip a little and since you don't want to quit, you will dip a little and you will have wasted all of our time. We have seen it many times.
So like we said, you need to want to quit and want to be quit with us. We will help but you had better convince us that you are worth our time.
So, no tricks or secrets whatsoever? just determination?
Determination and accountability is the name of the game around here. We all are in a quit group and we post roll call everyday saying to our quit brothers that we will not use nicotine that day. Our word is our bond. We we post roll and give our word we keep it. We do it all over again the next day and so on.
My word is as good as gold. How is your's?
Yeah, you can say I once was in your shoes. I remember the time I felt I needed to quit, but not the want. It took nearly 30 more years and several half-assed attempts because I didn't really want it. It was "only" when I want and when I was damn determined to make this a serious high priority, finding this site and listening to every bad-ass quitter who went before me, that I was successful.
How do you deal with the moodiness associated with a withdrawal. My mood is great 'normally?' but on a withdrawal....to be honest, I'm afraid I may loose my job. I'm not necessarily abrassive, but I get this, "I'm not going to take any shit from anybody attitude," and I'm in a job where I have to take a lot of shit. How do you maintain the same mood when you quit?
That is a good question. I have been quit for almost a month, and I am moody as shit. a full fledged asshole, some of the time. But I don't give a shit, my quit is now taking priority over others feelings, I apologize alot afterwards and explain my situation and most people understand. Be honest with people. And through talking to vets, it does get better in time
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"Love the product, hate the addiction?"...I think every quitter once thought that. Nobody can quit for you. YOU must quit. I knew I wanted to quit, but Copenhagen was so much a part of my routine...mowing the lawn, driving to or from work, outdoor activities, etc. I really just enjoyed dipping...really?!!
Nicotine is a powerful drug. Copenhagen WAS SLOWLY KILLING ME AND GOING TO DISFIGURE MY JAW AND FACE BEYOND RECOGNITION and I pretended it wasn't. I knew this, and yet I refused to change. I had convinced myself that I wasn't a "heavy dipper" so it was harmless, right? I knew it would be just a matter of time until my teeth fall out or "they find something." By the way, if that happens, you'd better get your affairs in order quit because you will die soon.
True, they can remove "the suspicious site," but that will take your tongue and/or part of your jaw. What a great life you will have, huh? Besides being disfigured, you will likely only give yourself an extra six months or so to live...it comes back...
We all know this will happen...yet we convince ourselves it won't, at least not to me. Here is the truth...the only way to prevent this is to quit. THE QUESTION IS HOW?!!
The key (at least for me) was finding my motivation. I found mine it in the faces on my children. I saw a TV show commemorating the victims of September 11th...a child who has managed the last 9 years without his father. And there it was...I quit right there on the spot. NO WAY WAS I GOING TO SEND MY SON THROUGH THIS CRAZY FUCKING WORLD WITHOUT HELPING HIM. I spit out my dip and quit right then and there...cold turkey.
Then I read about the Kern family...God bless the Kern family. Tom Kern died with his children at his feet pleading for him not to go as he lost his battle with cancer. Read their story. Read his children's story. Read their entries into their diaries about how much they miss their father when they were getting ready for prom, playing baseball, etc. Is that going to be your family's story?
That is the power of nicotine...it makes your think it is harmless while it is actually killing you and torturing the folks you care most for...your spouse, your young children, your parents, your friends.
Really? Still can't quit? It is too hard to quit, right? It makes you feel all nervous and jittery, or makes you crave? I just considered how my son would "crave" to have me around as he grows up...and how "jittery" he would be as his little body shook unconsolably as he cried over funeral or disfiguring surgery. That was my motivation.
Quitting sucks...you feel like crap, angry at the world, etc. But making the right decision for my family is the best feeling in the world. This site is here to help you...just read and read, post roll call everyday, and "stay quit" one day at a time. It sucks at first, of course, but this site will even walk you through that, too. This site is an endless supply of support for folks that truly want to kick the habbit.
Well, if my words can't motivate you to quit, then I'm sorry. I have failed you. And, by the way, I don't want to ever meet you because you will be another casualty of tobacco. And it is too upsetting to me to think I had the chance to save your life, but I failed...I let you and your family down.
But, if you read these words and it motivates you to quit, there is no charge, nor any need to thank me. YOU have just saved every future family Christmas, every first-day of school, every little girl's wedding day, every little league game, every...well, every fucking everything...for you and your family. Congrats!!!
You're spot on, Bean. My family is probably the biggest reason I'm on this website. My wife and I are coming up on our first wedding anniversary. I always thought I would quit when I got married. Now we're talking about having children in the near future. I don't want this for my family, but honestly its like I'm on crack. People think, "oh, just snuff." But this is as strong as anything you could possibly be addicted to. I've never done any illegal drugs, but I hear about junkies getting shakes.........I GET THOSE WHEN I CANT FIND MY CAN.
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Moodiness? USE THIS SITE. Vent all you want, cuss like a sailor, whatever it takes, but stay quit.
Also, tell your employer and co-workers what you are doing and what you're going through. You are responsible for your actions, but I bet they are supportive.
If they don't help you at least a little, or if you lost your job because you were saving your life...FUCK THEM!!! Do you need them or that job more than you and your family need you alive? I doubt it.
But, if so, please let me know where to apply because that job sounds great...and they will be looking for your replacement if you don't quit dipping now. (HA!!)
Seriously though...you (1 person) got yourself into this position and we (tons of folks) are all here to help you get out. We will support you. We won't go away. And we will do it tirelessly and at no cost to you.
Commit to your quit today...and set yourself free and save your life. Not bad, huh?
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Does Kill the Can have a cell phone app?
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Not sure what your mean, but I access it with iPhone on weekends and you can get phone numbers from other quitters for support...even mine, I suppose. But you gotta quit first.
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Does Kill the Can have a cell phone app?
I post from my Droid all the time. I used to post from my Blackberry. It don't matter how you post roll you just have to do it everyday.
So, are you going to quit or not?
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Does Kill the Can have a cell phone app?
I post from my Droid all the time. I used to post from my Blackberry. It don't matter how you post roll you just have to do it everyday.
So, are you going to quit or not?
bottom line. Yes. I want to talk with my wife tonight, and with my employers. I want to really get a plan together. I'm not good with spur of the moment stuff. I have to get a firm game plan lined up................is bacc off cheating?
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Does Kill the Can have a cell phone app?
I post from my Droid all the time. I used to post from my Blackberry. It don't matter how you post roll you just have to do it everyday.
So, are you going to quit or not?
bottom line. Yes. I want to talk with my wife tonight, and with my employers. I want to really get a plan together. I'm not good with spur of the moment stuff. I have to get a firm game plan lined up................is bacc off cheating?
Nope... no nicotine in Bacc Off or any of the products listed on this page: http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp) No nic, no cheating.
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Does Kill the Can have a cell phone app?
I post from my Droid all the time. I used to post from my Blackberry. It don't matter how you post roll you just have to do it everyday.
So, are you going to quit or not?
bottom line. Yes. I want to talk with my wife tonight, and with my employers. I want to really get a plan together. I'm not good with spur of the moment stuff. I have to get a firm game plan lined up................is bacc off cheating?
Nope... no nicotine in Bacc Off or any of the products listed on this page: http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp) No nic, no cheating.
baccoff is some nasty shit. I would recommend Hooch or Smokey Mountain. Do not pick your normal flavor. If you were a wintergreen guy get some mint fake. If you were a cope guy, go with wintergreen or mint. That way you are not trying to mimic the flavor and it will seem to you that you just switched brands.
Lease that is what helped me.
Talk to your wife and employer, tell them you have quit, Quitting right now is the best choice you can make. Not tomorrow, right now!!
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Life throws you some shit sometimes. Are you ever ready for it? Things are going along fine and then, boom. Car breaks down. Boss lays you off. Your daughter got denied her student loan. Your mortgage is overdue. Your wife is leaving you. Your mom dies.
It has been said many times before by people who are far more articulate than I, so I will paraphrase - It matters not how many times a man gets knocked down; what matters is how many times he gets back up. I am getting back up today. I will get back up tomorrow. I will continue to get up. That's who I am. That's who my kids think I am. That's who my wife needs me to be. That's who my parents raised me to be. I will continue to get up because God has given me that resolve.
My addiction will not help me stand. It will not help me get up. For those of you that have been following the drama in the Springer family, I have been dealing with even more than I have shared here. The one thing is, I will not dip to 'make it all better'. I will not dip to 'ease the nerves'. I will not dip 'just to get through this'. I will not dip.
To all the incredible quitters here that have sent their prayers, kind words, and support; I cannot begin to thank you all. Words cannot express my gratitude. From the fine group of quitters in June 2010 to everyone that PM'd, texted, or emailed. I couldn't list you all, because I'd forget someone and I don't want to do that.
If you're a newbie and thinking about quitting dip - stick around. You're in for the ride of your life. The question is, "Are you ready?"
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Life throws you some shit sometimes. Are you ever ready for it? Things are going along fine and then, boom. Car breaks down. Boss lays you off. Your daughter got denied her student loan. Your mortgage is overdue. Your wife is leaving you. Your mom dies.
It has been said many times before by people who are far more articulate than I, so I will paraphrase - It matters not how many times a man gets knocked down; what matters is how many times he gets back up. I am getting back up today. I will get back up tomorrow. I will continue to get up. That's who I am. That's who my kids think I am. That's who my wife needs me to be. That's who my parents raised me to be. I will continue to get up because God has given me that resolve.
My addiction will not help me stand. It will not help me get up. For those of you that have been following the drama in the Springer family, I have been dealing with even more than I have shared here. The one thing is, I will not dip to 'make it all better'. I will not dip to 'ease the nerves'. I will not dip 'just to get through this'. I will not dip.
To all the incredible quitters here that have sent their prayers, kind words, and support; I cannot begin to thank you all. Words cannot express my gratitude. From the fine group of quitters in June 2010 to everyone that PM'd, texted, or emailed. I couldn't list you all, because I'd forget someone and I don't want to do that.
If you're a newbie and thinking about quitting dip - stick around. You're in for the ride of your life. The question is, "Are you ready?"
This right here is what is meant by Bad Ass Quitter.
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Life throws you some shit sometimes. Are you ever ready for it? Things are going along fine and then, boom. Car breaks down. Boss lays you off. Your daughter got denied her student loan. Your mortgage is overdue. Your wife is leaving you. Your mom dies.
It has been said many times before by people who are far more articulate than I, so I will paraphrase - It matters not how many times a man gets knocked down; what matters is how many times he gets back up. I am getting back up today. I will get back up tomorrow. I will continue to get up. That's who I am. That's who my kids think I am. That's who my wife needs me to be. That's who my parents raised me to be. I will continue to get up because God has given me that resolve.
My addiction will not help me stand. It will not help me get up. For those of you that have been following the drama in the Springer family, I have been dealing with even more than I have shared here. The one thing is, I will not dip to 'make it all better'. I will not dip to 'ease the nerves'. I will not dip 'just to get through this'. I will not dip.
To all the incredible quitters here that have sent their prayers, kind words, and support; I cannot begin to thank you all. Words cannot express my gratitude. From the fine group of quitters in June 2010 to everyone that PM'd, texted, or emailed. I couldn't list you all, because I'd forget someone and I don't want to do that.Â
If you're a newbie and thinking about quitting dip - stick around. You're in for the ride of your life. The question is, "Are you ready?"
This right here is what is meant by Bad Ass Quitter.
WERD !!
GREAT POST !!
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Life throws you some shit sometimes. Are you ever ready for it? Things are going along fine and then, boom. Car breaks down. Boss lays you off. Your daughter got denied her student loan. Your mortgage is overdue. Your wife is leaving you. Your mom dies.
It has been said many times before by people who are far more articulate than I, so I will paraphrase - It matters not how many times a man gets knocked down; what matters is how many times he gets back up. I am getting back up today. I will get back up tomorrow. I will continue to get up. That's who I am. That's who my kids think I am. That's who my wife needs me to be. That's who my parents raised me to be. I will continue to get up because God has given me that resolve.
My addiction will not help me stand. It will not help me get up. For those of you that have been following the drama in the Springer family, I have been dealing with even more than I have shared here. The one thing is, I will not dip to 'make it all better'. I will not dip to 'ease the nerves'. I will not dip 'just to get through this'. I will not dip.
To all the incredible quitters here that have sent their prayers, kind words, and support; I cannot begin to thank you all. Words cannot express my gratitude. From the fine group of quitters in June 2010 to everyone that PM'd, texted, or emailed. I couldn't list you all, because I'd forget someone and I don't want to do that.Â
If you're a newbie and thinking about quitting dip - stick around. You're in for the ride of your life. The question is, "Are you ready?"
This right here is what is meant by Bad Ass Quitter.
WERD !!
GREAT POST !!
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Today....you added another brick to my foundation sir and further strengthened my resolve.
Thank you.
Mule 1021 days today.....and today has been counted because i have given my word....and quitters like you that absolutely lead the way....even to old timers....
See you in the morning.
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I'm been dipping for over 30 years and I'm attempting to wean myself off of Timberwolf using Smokey Mountain. Since I started using it last week, I developed a really bad sore throat. Is that normal? I set my quote date for 11/1/10 (in a week) because that's my 23rd Anniversary in AA as well
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I'm been dipping for over 30 years and I'm attempting to wean myself off of Timberwolf using Smokey Mountain. Since I started using it last week, I developed a really bad sore throat. Is that normal? I set my quote date for 11/1/10 (in a week) because that's my 23rd Anniversary in AA as well
Yes a sore throat is normal. Mine hurt for awhile. As with anything else give it a week or two to go away and if it does not then go see a doc and have it checked.
I would encourage you to go ahead and quit today. Dump your cans and go cold turkey. It will not be any easier if you wait. By your anniversary date your body could be free of Nicotine !!!
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Thanks for the feedback Greg5280 :)
Based on your reply, I'm planning to see an ENT this week and I've moved my quit date up to 10/30/10, so that my 72 hour quit will fall on 11/1/10.
I've tried to quit before and my oral fixation with dip is so strong that I'll probably use the Smokey Mountain for at least a week until I go cold turkey.
Call me a wimp if you'd like, but this plan makes the most sense to me right now
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I don't think you're a wimp, you're an addict. Addicts can make excuses and rationalize anything. I convinced myself that I was a "light dipper" because a can would last me 3 days. WTF?!! Anyway, my point is that once nic has its grip on you, you can't even trust yourself. Setting a quit date in the future is dangerous because it gives nic more time to think of other excuses to delay your quit. Also, setting the date let's you dip guilt-free...because you're quitting in a few days, right?
I've done all of that crap. I don't know if it was "lying to mysel" or not because I always honestly intended to quit, something (anything, really) would just come up. I don't want that to happen to you.
There is no better time to quit than right f'ing now!!! Throw that shit away, embrace the suck, and go toe to toe with the nic bitch. We are all here to support you...but you gotta quit first. You make the first move and commit to your quit, and we'll be behind you every step of the way. You've made a great decision. Now execute it!!!
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I know your probably right Bean, because I haven't had a drink in almost 23 years.
Quitting nic has proven to be a lot tougher that quitting booze.
I guess I should stay off this site until I've actually started my nic quit on 11/30/10
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I know your probably right Bean, because I haven't had a drink in almost 23 years.
Quitting nic has proven to be a lot tougher that quitting booze.
I guess I should stay off this site until I've actually started my nic quit on 11/30/10
You do not have to stay off the site. You are more than welcome to post here, talk to whoever you want, read. You just cannot post in your quit group until you are NIC free.
Spend time here and READ. There is much to learn about our little poison of choice. I will look forward to seeing you post day 1 in Feb.
Until then post away in here.
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Greg5280,
Can I post this Sat, 11/30 if it's my 1st day NIC free? If so, how do I find my quit group?
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Fpup,
Congrats on kicking booze...I've heard nic is harder, but I wouldn't know. I'm only 41 days quit, but I think you should stay on this site. I'm no expert, but I think you should read all you can. I quit and caved many times before. The only thing that has been different this time is this site and posting roll call everyday. I'm six weeks quit and I owe it all to KTC. Stay in touch and JOIN us!!!
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Greg5280,
Can I post this Sat, 11/30 if it's my 1st day NIC free? If so, how do I find my quit group?
Check your Inbox (1 )
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Thanks for the online support Bean Greg5280 :)
I'm looking forward to being an active poster on KTC very shortly
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You're in February 2010 ( I think). One of the moderators sent me an email with posting instructions. Click on "quit groups" and then click on Feb 2010. The click on "quote" and copy everything in that box and paste it in the other box. Add your name to the top group (the quitters are above the supporters). Then keep your word all day. The repeat.
My instructions may not be the best. One of the moderators will email you better ones. Look forward to your joint us.
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You're in February 2010 ( I think). One of the moderators sent me an email with posting instructions. Click on "quit groups" and then click on Feb 2010. The click on "quote" and copy everything in that box and paste it in the other box. Add your name to the top group (the quitters are above the supporters). Then keep your word all day. The repeat.
My instructions may not be the best. One of the moderators will email you better ones. Look forward to your joint us.
Close. You will be a Feb 2011 HOF'er. I happen to be very fond of February groups and will be spending quite a bit of time in there.
Look forward to seeing you there.
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Thanks for the online support Bean Greg5280 :)
I'm looking forward to being an active poster on KTC very shortly
Is there something wron with quitting right now. I do not understand the 11/30 thing. Today is a great day to start a quit.
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Thanks for the online support Bean Greg5280Â :)
I'm looking forward to being an active poster on KTC very shortly
Is there something wron with quitting right now. I do not understand the 11/30 thing. Today is a great day to start a quit.
Ya, I'm sure he'll be back in here a month from now.......... 'bangin'
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jdferguson07, MikeA, Greg5280 Bean.....you guys are definitely hardcore!!
I'll take Greg5280 suggestions and read everything on the website in the next few days
You should expect to hear from me again this Sat, 11/30.....my first NIC FREE Day.....
not a month from now jdferguson07!!
This is not my first one day at a time rodeo (recovery)
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jdferguson07, MikeA, Greg5280 Bean.....you guys are definitely hardcore!!
I'll take Greg5280 suggestions and read everything on the website in the next few days
You should expect to hear from me again this Sat, 11/30.....my first NIC FREE Day.....
not a month from now jdferguson07!!
This is not my first one day at a time rodeo (recovery)
I think the confusion is that THIS Saturday is October (the tenth month) 30th, rather than November (the eleventh month).
So you keep saying that you'll see us on Saturday. So... is it safe to assume that you're referring to Saturday, 10/30 (like 5 days away)? If so... the question still remains... why is 5 days from now better than tomorrow... or today?
It takes nicotine 72 hours to get out of your body. Hell... by Saturday (even 10/30) you'd be completely nic free.
Regardless of what month you think it is... welcome!
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jdferguson07, MikeA, Greg5280 Bean.....you guys are definitely hardcore!!
I'll take Greg5280 suggestions and read everything on the website in the next few days
You should expect to hear from me again this Sat, 11/30.....my first NIC FREE Day.....
not a month from now jdferguson07!!
This is not my first one day at a time rodeo (recovery)
We are hardcore becuase we know what freedom feels like finally. Now that we know what it feels like we want everyone to experience it.
And we also know that putting off your quit typically ends in no quit at all. We will be looking for you..
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Your right guys.....I meant this Sat, 10/30
I'm been alternating dips of Timberwolf Smokey Mountain for the last week
Call me crazy.....but I'm committed to being NIC FREE for 48 hours before I have to return to work on Monday, 11/1 'archer'
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jdferguson07, MikeA, Greg5280 Bean.....you guys are definitely hardcore!!
I'll take Greg5280 suggestions and read everything on the website in the next few days
You should expect to hear from me again this Sat, 11/30.....my first NIC FREE Day.....
not a month from now jdferguson07!!
This is not my first one day at a time rodeo (recovery)
We are hardcore becuase we know what freedom feels like finally. Now that we know what it feels like we want everyone to experience it.
And we also know that putting off your quit typically ends in no quit at all. We will be looking for you..
I have asked the question many times and I normally do not get an answer let alone a reasonable answer. Here it goes.
Why exactly will it be easier to quit several days from now as apposed to right now.
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Hey guy/gals, I am new here. 8 days dip free but I am starting to need something in place of the stuff.
I have checked the alt dip items but it seems since I am up in Canada they want a 70 buck to ship 20 bucks worth of product. Can anyone please help but letting me know where I can order without paying an arm and leg for SH?
Mike
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1498 Days and going strong! If you're new to the quit, keep the faith. There is light at the end of the tunnel. Oh and hot chicks... they're at the end of the tunnel too. It's like a 3:1 ratio and they're all horny. Enough motivation for ya?
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Hey guy/gals, I am new here. 8 days dip free but I am starting to need something in place of the stuff.
I have checked the alt dip items but it seems since I am up in Canada they want a 70 buck to ship 20 bucks worth of product. Can anyone please help but letting me know where I can order without paying an arm and leg for SH?
Mike
mack - here's a Canadian distributor for Young's Chew: https://www.tlgcanada.com/products.php? ... ted-4-Cans (https://www.tlgcanada.com/products.php?product=Youngs-Herbal-Snuff-34g-%252d-Assorted-4-Cans)
I've got an email out to a couple of other vendors (Hooch, Smokey Mountain) to see what I can find for you.
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1498 Days and going strong! If you're new to the quit, keep the faith. There is light at the end of the tunnel. Oh and hot chicks... they're at the end of the tunnel too. It's like a 3:1 ratio and they're all horny. Enough motivation for ya?
Goo to see you Angus! Glad to hear that the quit is rolling right along!
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New blog post: JakeÂ’s Mint Chew Review
http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=455 (http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=455)
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Hey guy/gals, I am new here. 8 days dip free but I am starting to need something in place of the stuff.
I have checked the alt dip items but it seems since I am up in Canada they want a 70 buck to ship 20 bucks worth of product. Can anyone please help but letting me know where I can order without paying an arm and leg for SH?
Mike
mack - here's a Canadian distributor for Young's Chew: https://www.tlgcanada.com/products.php? ... ted-4-Cans (https://www.tlgcanada.com/products.php?product=Youngs-Herbal-Snuff-34g-%252d-Assorted-4-Cans)
I've got an email out to a couple of other vendors (Hooch, Smokey Mountain) to see what I can find for you.
Thanks for the site.
It will come in very handy.
Mack
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Hey guy/gals, I am new here. 8 days dip free but I am starting to need something in place of the stuff.
I have checked the alt dip items but it seems since I am up in Canada they want a 70 buck to ship 20 bucks worth of product. Can anyone please help but letting me know where I can order without paying an arm and leg for SH?
Mike
mack - here's a Canadian distributor for Young's Chew: https://www.tlgcanada.com/products.php? ... ted-4-Cans (https://www.tlgcanada.com/products.php?product=Youngs-Herbal-Snuff-34g-%252d-Assorted-4-Cans)
I've got an email out to a couple of other vendors (Hooch, Smokey Mountain) to see what I can find for you.
Thanks for the site.
It will come in very handy.
Mack
I didn't use the fake snuff a lot when I first quit. I mostly chewed a lot of gum and drinked plenty of water. Others like to eat sunflower seeds. Just keep in mind there are other alternatives than fake snuff.
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I'"m on day 7 and I find my self needing something as well, I dont like candy or sunflower seads, and gum just bothers me (dont no why) so i don't say this is good, but I sip on coffee all day and night, its not like I go threw 40 cups a day but i have cup with me all day. and it sems to work for me, this is my first time quiting after 32 years and I am determind and with this site I have no need to spend 4$ a day again. Info go buy a contigo coffee mug it keeps it hot up to 4 hrs. (google it) good luck stay quit.
Dunk
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Your right guys.....I meant this Sat, 10/30
I'm been alternating dips of Timberwolf Smokey Mountain for the last week
Call me crazy.....but I'm committed to being NIC FREE for 48 hours before I have to return to work on Monday, 11/1 'archer'
if you did it now you'd be nic free for 72 hours and the nic would be outta your system. Just sayin.....
Sounds like a great committment....yawn.....a real commitment would be to dump the lipper, toss the can and start right now!
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Your right guys.....I meant this Sat, 10/30
I'm been alternating dips of Timberwolf Smokey Mountain for the last week
Call me crazy.....but I'm committed to being NIC FREE for 48 hours before I have to return to work on Monday, 11/1Â 'archer'
if you did it now you'd be nic free for 72 hours and the nic would be outta your system. Just sayin.....
Sounds like a great committment....yawn.....a real commitment would be to dump the lipper, toss the can and start right now!
I like your way of thinking tarpon. Man up dude and quit right now.
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Your right guys.....I meant this Sat, 10/30
I'm been alternating dips of Timberwolf Smokey Mountain for the last week
Call me crazy.....but I'm committed to being NIC FREE for 48 hours before I have to return to work on Monday, 11/1Â 'archer'
if you did it now you'd be nic free for 72 hours and the nic would be outta your system. Just sayin.....
Sounds like a great committment....yawn.....a real commitment would be to dump the lipper, toss the can and start right now!
I like your way of thinking tarpon. Man up dude and quit right now.
The sooner you quit the sooner you cock begins to get bigger! Its a win-win baby! wooooooooooooooo!
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I'"m on day 7 and I find my self needing something as well, I dont like candy or sunflower seads, and gum just bothers me (dont no why) so i don't say this is good, but I sip on coffee all day and night, its not like I go threw 40 cups a day but i have cup with me all day. and it sems to work for me, this is my first time quiting after 32 years and I am determind and with this site I have no need to spend 4$ a day again. Info go buy a contigo coffee mug it keeps it hot up to 4 hrs. (google it) good luck stay quit.
Dunk
dude keep the quit going. Seeds worked for me, but if coffee is your thing roll with it.
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I'"m on day 7 and I find my self needing something as well, I dont like candy or sunflower seads, and gum just bothers me (dont no why) so i don't say this is good, but I sip on coffee all day and night, its not like I go threw 40 cups a day but i have cup with me all day. and it sems to work for me, this is my first time quiting after 32 years and I am determind and with this site I have no need to spend 4$ a day again. Info go buy a contigo coffee mug it keeps it hot up to 4 hrs. (google it) good luck stay quit.
Dunk
dude keep the quit going. Seeds worked for me, but if coffee is your thing roll with it.
Key is to find something that works. I seem to change it up a bit. Tried candy and gum, but I am over that. Beef jerky works well for me and reciently I was turned on to sucking on cardomum pods. Those really satisfy the oral fixation and my wife likes how it leaves my breath. I also did the coffee thing for a while but was drinking too much, so I went to just hot water. Seems to provide the same relief.
Keep up the quit Dunk. I am for anything you can find that doesn't contain nicotine.
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I'"m on day 7 and I find my self needing something as well, I dont like candy or sunflower seads, and gum just bothers me (dont no why) so i don't say this is good, but I sip on coffee all day and night, its not like I go threw 40 cups a day but i have cup with me all day. and it sems to work for me, this is my first time quiting after 32 years and I am determind and with this site I have no need to spend 4$ a day again. Info go buy a contigo coffee mug it keeps it hot up to 4 hrs. (google it) good luck stay quit.
Dunk
dude keep the quit going. Seeds worked for me, but if coffee is your thing roll with it.
Key is to find something that works. I seem to change it up a bit. Tried candy and gum, but I am over that. Beef jerky works well for me and reciently I was turned on to sucking on cardomum pods. Those really satisfy the oral fixation and my wife likes how it leaves my breath. I also did the coffee thing for a while but was drinking too much, so I went to just hot water. Seems to provide the same relief.
Keep up the quit Dunk. I am for anything you can find that doesn't contain nicotine.
I was the same way the first week or two in regards to drinking TONS of coffee. However, I would get very jittery so now I just drink one or two cups of coffee in the morning and then switch over to herbal teas throughout work and before bed.
Non caffeinated herbal teas are great. There are some great anti-anxiety ones...white, green, hibiscus, chamomile. I'm not a tea expert, but I am slowly learning a lot about them, and they have really helped with the "anxiety" part of my quit, especially at work. Can't go wrong with a good green tea.
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Hey teaka, thought I would look threw the cupboards and see what the wife had in the tea supply, I found a jar of ginger root tea so I thought I would try it, well not to bad but one thing I noticed it took some of the stinging sensation I have in my lips and mouth away a bit, could be just in my head but regardless something new. Day 9 and doing fine, thanks to you all.
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october 19 2010 i caved from 3.5 years quit.
I am here not for someone to tell me that caving was ok. I have been down the road of quitting a few times as have most of the quitters here. I know that i messed up and that caving fixed nothing. I came to a head where i was looking all of my adversaries square in the face and i wanted out of that situation.
My mind went right back to its addict mindset saying that drinking and a dip are my only options. So i choose both options that night.
Went into a week long funk and came out addicted all over again and seeing myself in the "mirror" made me realize that there were steps that needed taken and now before i threw away my career and my life. Dip not being at the top of my life cleaning list i decided to start with seeking professional counselling. Started monday.
The above being said. Quit is on my list but i have to get my head back on the right track first, then everything else will follow.....dip...beer....physically back in shape...etc.
Some may call me weak, stupid, low life, caver, disrespectful, selfish,......etc if this is thecase then so be it! No personal attac intended
I know what i need to do to get myself and my future back.
Caving should never be an option nor to i condone my actions, i caved and only compounded the guilt i was already feeling and now i have to pay the consequences of my decisions.
I just know that i have a huge bear to kill and losing is not an option i will accept.
I will be back and to that i give my word.
Lawen4cer
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Thanks for the online support Bean Greg5280 :)
I'm looking forward to being an active poster on KTC very shortly
So what happened to yea ?
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I'"m on day 7 and I find my self needing something as well, I dont like candy or sunflower seads, and gum just bothers me (dont no why) so i don't say this is good, but I sip on coffee all day and night, its not like I go threw 40 cups a day but i have cup with me all day. and it sems to work for me, this is my first time quiting after 32 years and I am determind and with this site I have no need to spend 4$ a day again. Info go buy a contigo coffee mug it keeps it hot up to 4 hrs. (google it) good luck stay quit.
Dunk
dude keep the quit going. Seeds worked for me, but if coffee is your thing roll with it.
Key is to find something that works. I seem to change it up a bit. Tried candy and gum, but I am over that. Beef jerky works well for me and reciently I was turned on to sucking on cardomum pods. Those really satisfy the oral fixation and my wife likes how it leaves my breath. I also did the coffee thing for a while but was drinking too much, so I went to just hot water. Seems to provide the same relief.
Keep up the quit Dunk. I am for anything you can find that doesn't contain nicotine.
I was the same way the first week or two in regards to drinking TONS of coffee. However, I would get very jittery so now I just drink one or two cups of coffee in the morning and then switch over to herbal teas throughout work and before bed.
Non caffeinated herbal teas are great. There are some great anti-anxiety ones...white, green, hibiscus, chamomile. I'm not a tea expert, but I am slowly learning a lot about them, and they have really helped with the "anxiety" part of my quit, especially at work. Can't go wrong with a good green tea.
Be careful early in your quit when it comes to caffeine: http://www.killthecan.org/robs/cafnic.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/robs/cafnic.asp)
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october 19 2010 i caved from 3.5 years quit.
I am here not for someone to tell me that caving was ok. I have been down the road of quitting a few times as have most of the quitters here. I know that i messed up and that caving fixed nothing. I came to a head where i was looking all of my adversaries square in the face and i wanted out of that situation.
My mind went right back to its addict mindset saying that drinking and a dip are my only options. So i choose both options that night.
Went into a week long funk and came out addicted all over again and seeing myself in the "mirror" made me realize that there were steps that needed taken and now before i threw away my career and my life. Dip not being at the top of my life cleaning list i decided to start with seeking professional counselling. Started monday.
The above being said. Quit is on my list but i have to get my head back on the right track first, then everything else will follow.....dip...beer....physically back in shape...etc.
Some may call me weak, stupid, low life, caver, disrespectful, selfish,......etc if this is thecase then so be it! No personal attac intended
I know what i need to do to get myself and my future back.
Caving should never be an option nor to i condone my actions, i caved and only compounded the guilt i was already feeling and now i have to pay the consequences of my decisions.
I just know that i have a huge bear to kill and losing is not an option i will accept.
I will be back and to that i give my word.
Lawen4cer
Law -
I can't begin to tell you how bad this hurts. You know what needs to be done and you also know that this place will help you get to where you know you need to be. Unfortunately I or the thousands other here can't quit for you.
When you're ready... really ready to quit, we'll be here. I'll leave the ass chewing to others who do it much better than I. As I've said a million times, we bust balls cause we care. I truly do hope that it's not too long before you're back here, posting daily and getting a grasp on your demons. I know that I have.
I'll ask only one thing of you. When you come back, make it for the final time. Don't show up until you're really ready to be done for good. That's the only way that this will work for you.
You've got my number... call or text if you need to talk. I'll be here when you're determined to get the Bitch out of your life for the final time.
chewie
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october 19 2010 i caved from 3.5 years quit.
I am here not for someone to tell me that caving was ok. I have been down the road of quitting a few times as have most of the quitters here. I know that i messed up and that caving fixed nothing. I came to a head where i was looking all of my adversaries square in the face and i wanted out of that situation.Â
My mind went right back to its addict mindset saying that drinking and a dip are my only options. So i choose both options that night.Â
Went into a week long funk and came out addicted all over again and seeing myself in the "mirror" made me realize that there were steps that needed taken and now before i threw away my career and my life. Dip not being at the top of my life cleaning list i decided to start with seeking professional counselling. Started monday.Â
The above being said. Quit is on my list but i have to get my head back on the right track first, then everything else will follow.....dip...beer....physically back in shape...etc.Â
Some may call me weak, stupid, low life, caver, disrespectful, selfish,......etc if this is thecase then so be it! No personal attac intended
I know what i need to do to get myself and my future back.Â
Caving should never be an option nor to i condone my actions, i caved and only compounded the guilt i was already feeling and now i have to pay the consequences of my decisions.
I just know that i have a huge bear to kill and losing is not an option i will accept.Â
I will be back and to that i give my word.
Lawen4cer
Law -
I can't begin to tell you how bad this hurts. You know what needs to be done and you also know that this place will help you get to where you know you need to be. Unfortunately I or the thousands other here can't quit for you.
When you're ready... really ready to quit, we'll be here. I'll leave the ass chewing to others who do it much better than I. As I've said a million times, we bust balls cause we care. I truly do hope that it's not too long before you're back here, posting daily and getting a grasp on your demons. I know that I have.
I'll ask only one thing of you. When you come back, make it for the final time. Don't show up until you're really ready to be done for good. That's the only way that this will work for you.
You've got my number... call or text if you need to talk. I'll be here when you're determined to get the Bitch out of your life for the final time.
chewie
'qt'
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I will be back and to that i give my word.
Lawen4cer
Law -
I'll ask only one thing of you. When you come back, make it for the final time. Don't show up until you're really ready to be done for good. That's the only way that this will work for you.
I'll be here when you're determined to get the Bitch out of your life for the final time.
chewie
Is this an order? I quit for 3.5 years and i knew 3.5 years ago that this wasn't my final time?!
Its not like i come here quit for a few years just to fuck it off again. I have never started a quit that i didn't feel i was really really ready for...
I thought the one i was on for 3 years+ was my final time but i was wrong it seems.
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I will be back and to that i give my word.
Lawen4cer
Law -
I'll ask only one thing of you. When you come back, make it for the final time. Don't show up until you're really ready to be done for good. That's the only way that this will work for you.
I'll be here when you're determined to get the Bitch out of your life for the final time.
chewie
Is this an order? I quit for 3.5 years and i knew 3.5 years ago that this wasn't my final time?!
Its not like i come here quit for a few years just to fuck it off again. I have never started a quit that i didn't feel i was really really ready for...
I thought the one i was on for 3 years+ was my final time but i was wrong it seems.
Law - you must decide to save your own life. We'll help and support you AFTER you've made to decision. Analyze what went wrong and amend your plan. In addition to posting roll, I re-read the Kern family story every now and then. I printed off the contract and keep it with me. I come back to encourage others (like this).
The tough-love thing on here is other people who are angry you caved because they care about you. The anger you feel is because your angry at yourself for caving, angry that nic keeps working her damn way back into your life, and angry because YOU let her. Let's face it...YOU let YOU down. The best part is that your pissed off!!! Use that anger as motivation. Do something about it.
Get numbers, amend your quit plan, and just focus on one day at a time. Forget "forever"...you just need to worry about right now...today. Then post roll, stay quit for just one day, and repeat daily. There is no better time than right now to save your own life. You take the first step, we'll help with the rest.
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I will be back and to that i give my word.
Lawen4cer
Law -
I'll ask only one thing of you. When you come back, make it for the final time. Don't show up until you're really ready to be done for good. That's the only way that this will work for you.
I'll be here when you're determined to get the Bitch out of your life for the final time.
chewie
Is this an order? I quit for 3.5 years and i knew 3.5 years ago that this wasn't my final time?!
Its not like i come here quit for a few years just to fuck it off again. I have never started a quit that i didn't feel i was really really ready for...
I thought the one i was on for 3 years+ was my final time but i was wrong it seems.
Law - you must decide to save your own life. We'll help and support you AFTER you've made to decision. Analyze what went wrong and amend your plan. In addition to posting roll, I re-read the Kern family story every now and then. I printed off the contract and keep it with me. I come back to encourage others (like this).
The tough-love thing on here is other people who are angry you caved because they care about you. The anger you feel is because your angry at yourself for caving, angry that nic keeps working her damn way back into your life, and angry because YOU let her. Let's face it...YOU let YOU down. The best part is that your pissed off!!! Use that anger as motivation. Do something about it.
Get numbers, amend your quit plan, and just focus on one day at a time. Forget "forever"...you just need to worry about right now...today. Then post roll, stay quit for just one day, and repeat daily. There is no better time than right now to save your own life. You take the first step, we'll help with the rest.
Well said Bean... well said indeed.
Law, no need to get snippy, and no... it wasn't an order. I was merely trying to say that I didn't want you to come back before you were ready. I don't want to see you back here in a month merely because "it's been long enough".
But I'd like to ask one thing not because I'm being a dick but because I'm honestly curious. What brings you back to the can after so long? You've been a quit machine for YEARS and then have gone back multiple times. Why? Has there been something similar each time?
I ask because at this point in my quit, I can't for the life of me think of a reason that I'd ever go back. I'm not saying this cause I think I'm better than you or my quit is any stronger than yours was. I'm also not saying this cause I think I'm "cured" after all this time. I'm honestly curious as to what would lead you back after you'd gotten the bitch out of your life - especially knowing what you know?
chewie
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I will be back and to that i give my word.
Lawen4cer
Law -
I'll ask only one thing of you. When you come back, make it for the final time. Don't show up until you're really ready to be done for good. That's the only way that this will work for you.
I'll be here when you're determined to get the Bitch out of your life for the final time.
chewie
Is this an order? I quit for 3.5 years and i knew 3.5 years ago that this wasn't my final time?!
Its not like i come here quit for a few years just to fuck it off again. I have never started a quit that i didn't feel i was really really ready for...
I thought the one i was on for 3 years+ was my final time but i was wrong it seems.
Law - you must decide to save your own life. We'll help and support you AFTER you've made to decision. Analyze what went wrong and amend your plan. In addition to posting roll, I re-read the Kern family story every now and then. I printed off the contract and keep it with me. I come back to encourage others (like this).
The tough-love thing on here is other people who are angry you caved because they care about you. The anger you feel is because your angry at yourself for caving, angry that nic keeps working her damn way back into your life, and angry because YOU let her. Let's face it...YOU let YOU down. The best part is that your pissed off!!! Use that anger as motivation. Do something about it.
Get numbers, amend your quit plan, and just focus on one day at a time. Forget "forever"...you just need to worry about right now...today. Then post roll, stay quit for just one day, and repeat daily. There is no better time than right now to save your own life. You take the first step, we'll help with the rest.
Well said Bean... well said indeed.
Law, no need to get snippy, and no... it wasn't an order. I was merely trying to say that I didn't want you to come back before you were ready. I don't want to see you back here in a month merely because "it's been long enough".
But I'd like to ask one thing not because I'm being a dick but because I'm honestly curious. What brings you back to the can after so long? You've been a quit machine for YEARS and then have gone back multiple times. Why? Has there been something similar each time?
I ask because at this point in my quit, I can't for the life of me think of a reason that I'd ever go back. I'm not saying this cause I think I'm better than you or my quit is any stronger than yours was. I'm also not saying this cause I think I'm "cured" after all this time. I'm honestly curious as to what would lead you back after you'd gotten the bitch out of your life - especially knowing what you know?
chewie
Kiddo, I really do hope you can come to the decision to rid yourself of the can for good. I really felt bad for you when you confided with me in private chat that night several weeks ago that you had caved. I did not tell anyone that night because I wanted you to make the decision to come forward to the group about your cave. ITs a lifetime battle. My job has been very stressful lately and my resolve was tested this morning when some smokers lit up. I had the worst craves I have had in at least a year but I got in here as quickly as I could to post my promise for the day. I DO NOT want that shit back in my life PERIOD!!!!!!!
KDIP
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I will be back and to that i give my word.
Lawen4cer
Law -
I'll ask only one thing of you. When you come back, make it for the final time. Don't show up until you're really ready to be done for good. That's the only way that this will work for you.
I'll be here when you're determined to get the Bitch out of your life for the final time.
chewie
Is this an order? I quit for 3.5 years and i knew 3.5 years ago that this wasn't my final time?!
Its not like i come here quit for a few years just to fuck it off again. I have never started a quit that i didn't feel i was really really ready for...
I thought the one i was on for 3 years+ was my final time but i was wrong it seems.
Law - you must decide to save your own life. We'll help and support you AFTER you've made to decision. Analyze what went wrong and amend your plan. In addition to posting roll, I re-read the Kern family story every now and then. I printed off the contract and keep it with me. I come back to encourage others (like this).
The tough-love thing on here is other people who are angry you caved because they care about you. The anger you feel is because your angry at yourself for caving, angry that nic keeps working her damn way back into your life, and angry because YOU let her. Let's face it...YOU let YOU down. The best part is that your pissed off!!! Use that anger as motivation. Do something about it.
Get numbers, amend your quit plan, and just focus on one day at a time. Forget "forever"...you just need to worry about right now...today. Then post roll, stay quit for just one day, and repeat daily. There is no better time than right now to save your own life. You take the first step, we'll help with the rest.
Well said Bean... well said indeed.
Law, no need to get snippy, and no... it wasn't an order. I was merely trying to say that I didn't want you to come back before you were ready. I don't want to see you back here in a month merely because "it's been long enough".
But I'd like to ask one thing not because I'm being a dick but because I'm honestly curious. What brings you back to the can after so long? You've been a quit machine for YEARS and then have gone back multiple times. Why? Has there been something similar each time?
I ask because at this point in my quit, I can't for the life of me think of a reason that I'd ever go back. I'm not saying this cause I think I'm better than you or my quit is any stronger than yours was. I'm also not saying this cause I think I'm "cured" after all this time. I'm honestly curious as to what would lead you back after you'd gotten the bitch out of your life - especially knowing what you know?
chewie
"You've been a quit machine for YEARS and then have gone back multiple times. Why? "
First of all Id like to clear something up. I caved a bit back before may 8 2007
may 8 2007 I quit and remained quit never dipping until sep 19 2010. there have not been multiple times or caves.
sorry if I came off as snippy it was not my intent. it was a question because if it was I would know if I could come back or not. you being the "boss" and all if you say dont come back then I wont. was clarifying what I didnt understand.
as to why I wont go into detail in an open room. but it was something that happened that I could nolonger deal with in my head and one day I had a complete melt down about the whole thing and basically quit caring came up for air a week later as I said before I realised that I needed to talk action and not just on dip if I was going to find myself again because I went MIA for a while.
if you want details PM me and I will do my best to say it as it was.
Law
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I will be back and to that i give my word.
Lawen4cer
Law -
I'll ask only one thing of you. When you come back, make it for the final time. Don't show up until you're really ready to be done for good. That's the only way that this will work for you.
I'll be here when you're determined to get the Bitch out of your life for the final time.
chewie
Is this an order? I quit for 3.5 years and i knew 3.5 years ago that this wasn't my final time?!
Its not like i come here quit for a few years just to fuck it off again. I have never started a quit that i didn't feel i was really really ready for...
I thought the one i was on for 3 years+ was my final time but i was wrong it seems.
Law - you must decide to save your own life. We'll help and support you AFTER you've made to decision. Analyze what went wrong and amend your plan. In addition to posting roll, I re-read the Kern family story every now and then. I printed off the contract and keep it with me. I come back to encourage others (like this).
The tough-love thing on here is other people who are angry you caved because they care about you. The anger you feel is because your angry at yourself for caving, angry that nic keeps working her damn way back into your life, and angry because YOU let her. Let's face it...YOU let YOU down. The best part is that your pissed off!!! Use that anger as motivation. Do something about it.
Get numbers, amend your quit plan, and just focus on one day at a time. Forget "forever"...you just need to worry about right now...today. Then post roll, stay quit for just one day, and repeat daily. There is no better time than right now to save your own life. You take the first step, we'll help with the rest.
Well said Bean... well said indeed.
Law, no need to get snippy, and no... it wasn't an order. I was merely trying to say that I didn't want you to come back before you were ready. I don't want to see you back here in a month merely because "it's been long enough".
But I'd like to ask one thing not because I'm being a dick but because I'm honestly curious. What brings you back to the can after so long? You've been a quit machine for YEARS and then have gone back multiple times. Why? Has there been something similar each time?
I ask because at this point in my quit, I can't for the life of me think of a reason that I'd ever go back. I'm not saying this cause I think I'm better than you or my quit is any stronger than yours was. I'm also not saying this cause I think I'm "cured" after all this time. I'm honestly curious as to what would lead you back after you'd gotten the bitch out of your life - especially knowing what you know?
chewie
"You've been a quit machine for YEARS and then have gone back multiple times. Why? "
First of all Id like to clear something up. I caved a bit back before may 8 2007
may 8 2007 I quit and remained quit never dipping until sep 19 2010. there have not been multiple times or caves.
sorry if I came off as snippy it was not my intent. it was a question because if it was I would know if I could come back or not. you being the "boss" and all if you say dont come back then I wont. was clarifying what I didnt understand.
as to why I wont go into detail in an open room. but it was something that happened that I could nolonger deal with in my head and one day I had a complete melt down about the whole thing and basically quit caring came up for air a week later as I said before I realised that I needed to talk action and not just on dip if I was going to find myself again because I went MIA for a while.
if you want details PM me and I will do my best to say it as it was.
Law
Law- Just want you to know that it's a big lesson for us on this site to read what you are going through.
When I see a veteran like yourself with big Quit numbers cave, it just drives the point home for me that I will never be cured. I will always be an addict and must be prepared to live that way. Having "just one" is not an option and staying focused on my Quit will be a daily committment.
I hope you get back on the site soon to start your Quit again. Because you deserve to be nic free.
Brian
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I will be back and to that i give my word.
Lawen4cer
Law -
I'll ask only one thing of you. When you come back, make it for the final time. Don't show up until you're really ready to be done for good. That's the only way that this will work for you.
I'll be here when you're determined to get the Bitch out of your life for the final time.
chewie
Is this an order? I quit for 3.5 years and i knew 3.5 years ago that this wasn't my final time?!
Its not like i come here quit for a few years just to fuck it off again. I have never started a quit that i didn't feel i was really really ready for...
I thought the one i was on for 3 years+ was my final time but i was wrong it seems.
Law - you must decide to save your own life. We'll help and support you AFTER you've made to decision. Analyze what went wrong and amend your plan. In addition to posting roll, I re-read the Kern family story every now and then. I printed off the contract and keep it with me. I come back to encourage others (like this).
The tough-love thing on here is other people who are angry you caved because they care about you. The anger you feel is because your angry at yourself for caving, angry that nic keeps working her damn way back into your life, and angry because YOU let her. Let's face it...YOU let YOU down. The best part is that your pissed off!!! Use that anger as motivation. Do something about it.
Get numbers, amend your quit plan, and just focus on one day at a time. Forget "forever"...you just need to worry about right now...today. Then post roll, stay quit for just one day, and repeat daily. There is no better time than right now to save your own life. You take the first step, we'll help with the rest.
Well said Bean... well said indeed.
Law, no need to get snippy, and no... it wasn't an order. I was merely trying to say that I didn't want you to come back before you were ready. I don't want to see you back here in a month merely because "it's been long enough".
But I'd like to ask one thing not because I'm being a dick but because I'm honestly curious. What brings you back to the can after so long? You've been a quit machine for YEARS and then have gone back multiple times. Why? Has there been something similar each time?
I ask because at this point in my quit, I can't for the life of me think of a reason that I'd ever go back. I'm not saying this cause I think I'm better than you or my quit is any stronger than yours was. I'm also not saying this cause I think I'm "cured" after all this time. I'm honestly curious as to what would lead you back after you'd gotten the bitch out of your life - especially knowing what you know?
chewie
"You've been a quit machine for YEARS and then have gone back multiple times. Why? "
First of all Id like to clear something up. I caved a bit back before may 8 2007
may 8 2007 I quit and remained quit never dipping until sep 19 2010. there have not been multiple times or caves.
sorry if I came off as snippy it was not my intent. it was a question because if it was I would know if I could come back or not. you being the "boss" and all if you say dont come back then I wont. was clarifying what I didnt understand.
as to why I wont go into detail in an open room. but it was something that happened that I could nolonger deal with in my head and one day I had a complete melt down about the whole thing and basically quit caring came up for air a week later as I said before I realised that I needed to talk action and not just on dip if I was going to find myself again because I went MIA for a while.
if you want details PM me and I will do my best to say it as it was.
Law
Law- Just want you to know that it's a big lesson for us on this site to read what you are going through.
When I see a veteran like yourself with big Quit numbers cave, it just drives the point home for me that I will never be cured. I will always be an addict and must be prepared to live that way. Having "just one" is not an option and staying focused on my Quit will be a daily committment.
I hope you get back on the site soon to start your Quit again. Because you deserve to be nic free.
Brian
There is nothing more discouraging to me than hearing of a long time quitter blowing it. I know that as addicts we will always be tempted, but it just floors me that someone can give this shit up for years and than go back. Most of us started chewing when we were too young and stupid to know better. But I would like to think that after a year of two or three of being quit, that our adult brain could overcome a crave or tough moment. thanks law!
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One of the only things that greatly concerns me about this gawd awful ugly mess of a cave is the reactions like teaka's.
Before anyone takes away from this that quitting for any period of time is impossible, YOU MUST consider this:
Lawen4cer was not active on this site.
Lawen4cer did not post roll everyday.
Lawen4cer was not accountable to anyone on this site.
Lawen4cer did not use the tools learned on this site.
Lawen4cer did not give ANYONE on this site an opportunity to help PRIOR to caving.
I have yet to see anyone over a year quit who does all of the above things cave.
Period.
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Thanks To All Who Have Served! 'usflag'
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Thanks To All Who Have Served! 'usflag'
indeed. i may question the leaders who are willing to put so many in harms way, but salute those who serve with honor.
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Hello everyone. I just passed 6 years quit and thought I'd drop by. :)
This quittin' stuff is worth the effort.
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Hello everyone. I just passed 6 years quit and thought I'd drop by. :)
This quittin' stuff is worth the effort.
Indeed it is. Congrats on the 6 years.
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Hello everyone. I just passed 6 years quit and thought I'd drop by. :)
This quittin' stuff is worth the effort.
Congrats to you Al !!!
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New blog post: Update On KTC QSX Milestone Chips
http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=495 (http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=495)
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Hello everyone. I just passed 6 years quit and thought I'd drop by. :)
This quittin' stuff is worth the effort.
Awesome! Test......
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Hello everyone. I just passed 6 years quit and thought I'd drop by. :)
This quittin' stuff is worth the effort.
Awesome! Test......
That's a long time to be quit! Congrats.
Do you still ever get craves or dip dreams?
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ATTENTION QUITTERS!!!
On Saturday, QSX KillTheCan.org celebrates it's 4 year anniversary! To celebrate the occasion, we'll have a ONE DAY ROLL call located here: index.php?showtopic=3541 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=3541)
I'd ask that everyone join this roll on Saturday.
Last year - index.php?showtopic=2741 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=2741) - we collectively logged over 45,000 days quit and I'd LOVE to see that number jump this year!
Thanks for another great year quitters!
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Hello everyone. I just passed 6 years quit and thought I'd drop by. :)
This quittin' stuff is worth the effort.
CONGRATS DUDE! I AM SO PROUD, KEEP IT UP! ASPIRE TO BE LIKE YOU!
-SEAN
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New blog post: KTC Stocking Stuffer Pricing
http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=508 (http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=508)
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Apparently we can't post in the calendar, so here's an Early Reminder:
Happy birthday Cliff!
We still miss you. RIP
David J. Clifford
December 1, 1967 - September 10, 2006
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Hello everyone. I just passed 6 years quit and thought I'd drop by. :)
This quittin' stuff is worth the effort.
Congrats!!! Ready to join you.
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http://www.wral.com/news/national_world ... y/8741674/ (http://www.wral.com/news/national_world/national/story/8741674/)
Family of man from NC who died from cancer from years of chewing sues UST and wins $5 million settlement. First of its kind lawsuit against makers of chewing tobacco. Looks like the tide is finally turning for those companies...
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I've been doing a lot of soul searching if you will the past few weeks. I've been hanging around KTC and posting roll, checking other groups out, posting here and there, and offering support. But then the March group got started, and I all of a sudden I got involved. I got the feeling that I wanted to help this group as much as possible. Three reasons for this: my quit date was March 16, 2010; my birthday is in March, and my mom was diagnosed with ovarian cancer in March.
Then I started reflecting on some of the sayings we use from time to time. I'm sure you've said, or heard someone say things, like “Get your head in the game.” Or, you've heard people make analogies to sports in a business meeting, etc. That got me to thinking about this thing we're doing called quitting. It's not a game, it's a fight.
I get angry at my addiction. I get angry at my weakness. When I wake up in the morning, I expect to go knuckles up with my nicotine addiction all day long. Some days, it's just a first round knock out. I post roll, I go on with my day and have no cravings. Other days, it's a street fight. The kind of nasty street fight that makes you nervous to even watch. This ain't no game. There can only be one winner – ME.
Your favorite team is in the Super. They're down by 6 in the 4th quarter and they're driving to the end zone with little time. On the last play of the game, they throw a pass into the end zone to win and it's intercepted! OH! What a bummer. Guess what? Tomorrow, everyone involved in that game, and everyone that watched it will get up and go about their days just like before.
In my daily fight with my addiction, I one day decide I'm not strong enough. I can't fight any more. I cave. I die.
There is no trophy. There is no signing bonus. There is no medal. There is only life.
I'm not playing games here. I'm in a fight, and I'm going to win.
-Spring
Dec 8, 2010
268 days of freedom.
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I've been doing a lot of soul searching if you will the past few weeks. I've been hanging around KTC and posting roll, checking other groups out, posting here and there, and offering support. But then the March group got started, and I all of a sudden I got involved. I got the feeling that I wanted to help this group as much as possible. Three reasons for this: my quit date was March 16, 2010; my birthday is in March, and my mom was diagnosed with ovarian cancer in March.
Then I started reflecting on some of the sayings we use from time to time. I'm sure you've said, or heard someone say things, like “Get your head in the game.” Or, you've heard people make analogies to sports in a business meeting, etc. That got me to thinking about this thing we're doing called quitting. It's not a game, it's a fight.
I get angry at my addiction. I get angry at my weakness. When I wake up in the morning, I expect to go knuckles up with my nicotine addiction all day long. Some days, it's just a first round knock out. I post roll, I go on with my day and have no cravings. Other days, it's a street fight. The kind of nasty street fight that makes you nervous to even watch. This ain't no game. There can only be one winner – ME.
Your favorite team is in the Super. They're down by 6 in the 4th quarter and they're driving to the end zone with little time. On the last play of the game, they throw a pass into the end zone to win and it's intercepted! OH! What a bummer. Guess what? Tomorrow, everyone involved in that game, and everyone that watched it will get up and go about their days just like before.
In my daily fight with my addiction, I one day decide I'm not strong enough. I can't fight any more. I cave. I die.
There is no trophy. There is no signing bonus. There is no medal. There is only life.
I'm not playing games here. I'm in a fight, and I'm going to win.
-Spring
Dec 8, 2010
268 days of freedom.
Nice, needed to read that this morning!!! You can NEVER give up or the Nic Bitch will win!!!
Kdip - Day 827
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I've been doing a lot of soul searching if you will the past few weeks. I've been hanging around KTC and posting roll, checking other groups out, posting here and there, and offering support. But then the March group got started, and I all of a sudden I got involved. I got the feeling that I wanted to help this group as much as possible. Three reasons for this: my quit date was March 16, 2010; my birthday is in March, and my mom was diagnosed with ovarian cancer in March.
Then I started reflecting on some of the sayings we use from time to time. I'm sure you've said, or heard someone say things, like “Get your head in the game.” Or, you've heard people make analogies to sports in a business meeting, etc. That got me to thinking about this thing we're doing called quitting. It's not a game, it's a fight.
I get angry at my addiction. I get angry at my weakness. When I wake up in the morning, I expect to go knuckles up with my nicotine addiction all day long. Some days, it's just a first round knock out. I post roll, I go on with my day and have no cravings. Other days, it's a street fight. The kind of nasty street fight that makes you nervous to even watch. This ain't no game. There can only be one winner – ME.
Your favorite team is in the Super. They're down by 6 in the 4th quarter and they're driving to the end zone with little time. On the last play of the game, they throw a pass into the end zone to win and it's intercepted! OH! What a bummer. Guess what? Tomorrow, everyone involved in that game, and everyone that watched it will get up and go about their days just like before.
In my daily fight with my addiction, I one day decide I'm not strong enough. I can't fight any more. I cave. I die.
There is no trophy. There is no signing bonus. There is no medal. There is only life.
I'm not playing games here. I'm in a fight, and I'm going to win.
-Spring
Dec 8, 2010
268 days of freedom.
Well Said !!
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Hey everyone,
I'm on day 8 of my quit. Everything is going pretty well. Today I seem to have lost the fog and I haven't had one headache. However, there is one thing that is still really painful, and that's the whole not-being-able-to-go-thing or at least not being able to go regularly.
Any suggestions? I already drink coffee and tried oatmeal... but it only helps a little. I'm down from 4 or 5 deuces a day to just one and it's really giving me problems.
thanks,
Husky
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Hey everyone,
I'm on day 8 of my quit. Everything is going pretty well. Today I seem to have lost the fog and I haven't had one headache. However, there is one thing that is still really painful, and that's the whole not-being-able-to-go-thing or at least not being able to go regularly.
Any suggestions? I already drink coffee and tried oatmeal... but it only helps a little. I'm down from 4 or 5 deuces a day to just one and it's really giving me problems.
thanks,
Husky
I am NO doctor, but 4 or 5 dumps a day? Holy shit, no pun intended. I'm a once a day guy, and have been my whole life.
If you're having real problems, I would go see my doc.
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I know, right? That's what everyone has always said... but it's been that way forever and they have always happened around the same time. My doc says that some people just work like that... lucky me.
I guess I will need to buy tons of bran products and just try stuff. If it does last for a long time, I will talk to my dr.
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What's the hardest thing you can do?
I'm a coach. That's how I make my living. I coach cartwheels and shit to pre-schoolers, and competitive gymnastics to girls and boys. I own my own gym, and I love what I do every day. Every now and then, my kids will hit a mental brick wall, or plateau. Often times this is accompanied with fear. Fear is a huge part of gymnastics. When one of my gymnasts does poorly on a math test, or answers a history question incorrectly, there is no real physical threat. If that same gymnast misses her hands when doing a back handspring on a 4 inch wide balance been that stands 4 feet off the floor, it's going to hurt. A lot. So, as a coach, it's my job to try to get in their heads, in a good way. I need to understand their thought process and help them rationalize their way through the fear, and on to success.
I've been using a specific technique recently with a group of girls that are having a hard time with cartwheels on the beam. I asked them, “What's the hardest thing you can do?” Ask yourself that question. I bet it's not an easy answer if you really read the question. My kids couldn't really answer it either. “What' the hardest thing you can DO?” Not, what's the hardest thing you learned to do, or have ever done, but that you can DO.
I worded it specifically. If you can DO something is it hard? Is riding a bike hard? Not for me...anymore. It was hard to learn. I fell. A lot. But now, I can ride every time I try. If you can't do something, it seems hard, until you've conquered it. Quitting is not that different.
I've been applying the lessons I've learned at KTC in my coaching recently, and vice versa. My success depends on my courage. I must have the courage to continue this quit. I see the new guys posting through their first two weeks. THAT takes a lot of courage. It sucks so bad back in the beginning. I am afraid of going through that again. I see guys with hundreds of days think they can have “just one”. I'm afraid of being that guy. I'm afraid the next time I go to the dentist, he's going to find something. I'm afraid my quit came too late in my life to avoid cancer.
I am working through this fear every day. I do this one simple way: I post roll. Posting roll is my security blanket. It's my lucky charm. It's my voodoo. It's where I draw my strength to face the coming day, knowing she is out there. You know who I'm talking about. She's around the corner right now. She's waiting in my truck. She's at the drive through. She's waving to me when I drive by the C-store. When I see her, or hear her whisper in my ear, I grab my security blanket that is KTC and I find the courage to say, “I am not afraid”.
So, what's the hardest thing I can do? I can quit!
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I've been reflecting also on certain aspects of my quit lately as well. Todays reflection revolves around addiction. My wife told me many times that my addiction was the reason I couldn't have a successful quit (previous quits that is). I told myself, this is just a bad oral habitat that I've been doing for 20 yrs, thats why its so hard to quit. In the past 80 days I've come to realize, the nic bitch was telling me those lies. She didn't want me to quit, so she told me that I'm not addicted, addiction is for illicit drugs, not me, cute cuddly nicotene. I never looked up the contents of snuff. Didn't want to. The Nic bitch didn't want me to. She said, its just tobacco and some preservatives, kinda like candy, but better. So I kept going. I can handle this, I'm bullet proof. The nic bitch is strong, she's great at whispering in your ear, convincing you that you're not killing yourself, but pleasing yourself. The more the merrier in her eyes. Through some mechanism we have come to the realization that the nic bitch has lied to us for 1-30+ years. LIED. We know it now, and if you're reading this with a dip in your mouth or fingerbangin a can, think about it. How strong is that voice in your head? Might not be too strong if you're in this site reading up on stuff. Read on, you'll see hundreds, if not thousands of guys that have made the realization that the nic bitch is not looking out for them. And that we hate her. We want to fight her the rest of our lives, one day at a time. Think about it. Make your decision to live and not be controlled.
Tarpon day 80 and winning my daily battle.
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I've been reflecting also on certain aspects of my quit lately as well. Todays reflection revolves around addiction. My wife told me many times that my addiction was the reason I couldn't have a successful quit (previous quits that is). I told myself, this is just a bad oral habitat that I've been doing for 20 yrs, thats why its so hard to quit. In the past 80 days I've come to realize, the nic bitch was telling me those lies. She didn't want me to quit, so she told me that I'm not addicted, addiction is for illicit drugs, not me, cute cuddly nicotene. I never looked up the contents of snuff. Didn't want to. The Nic bitch didn't want me to. She said, its just tobacco and some preservatives, kinda like candy, but better. So I kept going. I can handle this, I'm bullet proof. The nic bitch is strong, she's great at whispering in your ear, convincing you that you're not killing yourself, but pleasing yourself. The more the merrier in her eyes. Through some mechanism we have come to the realization that the nic bitch has lied to us for 1-30+ years. LIED. We know it now, and if you're reading this with a dip in your mouth or fingerbangin a can, think about it. How strong is that voice in your head? Might not be too strong if you're in this site reading up on stuff. Read on, you'll see hundreds, if not thousands of guys that have made the realization that the nic bitch is not looking out for them. And that we hate her. We want to fight her the rest of our lives, one day at a time. Think about it. Make your decision to live and not be controlled.
Tarpon day 80 and winning my daily battle.
Awesome! This gets me fired up too!
Well done fish boy!
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Apparently we can't post in the calendar, so here's an Early Reminder:
Happy birthday Cliff!
We still miss you. RIP
David J. Clifford
December 1, 1967 - September 10, 2006
What happened to Cliff? He was only a year older than I am.
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It's been one of those weird days. Nothing really to keep me busy and not really craving but it seems to always be on my mind today. At day 87 I'm really happy that this quit has taken and that I found KTC. But as I/we move closer and celebrate our buddys (and buddesses) making the HOF I'm feeling kind of odd about the whole thing. I'm excited but also spooked. Making the HOF is a big step and something I'll be proud of, but then I realize, on day 101 I'll get up and do it all over again. On day 1001, I'll get up and do it all over again. I've never really been involved in something I can't finish or better yet that has no finish, so it's weird. Grateful, but trying to get my mind around it.
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I've been reflecting also on certain aspects of my quit lately as well. Todays reflection revolves around addiction. My wife told me many times that my addiction was the reason I couldn't have a successful quit (previous quits that is). I told myself, this is just a bad oral habitat that I've been doing for 20 yrs, thats why its so hard to quit. In the past 80 days I've come to realize, the nic bitch was telling me those lies. She didn't want me to quit, so she told me that I'm not addicted, addiction is for illicit drugs, not me, cute cuddly nicotene. I never looked up the contents of snuff. Didn't want to. The Nic bitch didn't want me to. She said, its just tobacco and some preservatives, kinda like candy, but better. So I kept going. I can handle this, I'm bullet proof. The nic bitch is strong, she's great at whispering in your ear, convincing you that you're not killing yourself, but pleasing yourself. The more the merrier in her eyes. Through some mechanism we have come to the realization that the nic bitch has lied to us for 1-30+ years. LIED. We know it now, and if you're reading this with a dip in your mouth or fingerbangin a can, think about it. How strong is that voice in your head? Might not be too strong if you're in this site reading up on stuff. Read on, you'll see hundreds, if not thousands of guys that have made the realization that the nic bitch is not looking out for them. And that we hate her. We want to fight her the rest of our lives, one day at a time. Think about it. Make your decision to live and not be controlled.
Tarpon day 80 and winning my daily battle.
Awesome! This gets me fired up too!
Well done fish boy!
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Very nice tarpon......you just helped me through another day and then some. I am on day 24 and the nic bitch has been doing some pretty sweet talking this week. Almost had me convinced to go back with her a few times. I just read this and it is more clear to me now of what is going on with me. The more I can learn about the nic bitch, the stronger I can be to fight her.........Thanks
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A trip to the Service Department
Let's do a little comparison. If your computer shit the bed, what would you do? If your car stops running what do you do? When you're not feeling well, or your kids are sick what do you do? Water heater not heating? Well?
The answer is, you go to what ever Service Department, Doctor, call a plumber, etc. Basically, you call on those people that fix your shit. And when you bring your laptop into the Geek Squad and the wormy little pencil neck behind the counter (no offense to those of you who work at the Geek Squad) says you need a new hard drive, do you listen? When the auto guy says you need (fill in the blank) do you argue? When the Dr. says you need anti-biotics do you pass on his advice? When the plumber says you need to replace your heater do you do it your way?
Well, maybe yes for some of you that are plumbers, or mechanics or doctors, or geeks, but do you all get my point? I don't know shit about computers. When mine stops working I take it to 'the guy'. Why do we do this? Because 'the guy' knows. This is what he does. We listen. We may not like it, but we listen because, well, they know, right?
So why is it different here? Why are there guys that come on here and think they can do it "My way". "I don't need to account to nobody." "I can have just one." "I know better than that vet." "I don't need to justify my cave to you or anyone."
Read anything like this in a group? Of course you have, but why? Why are you here? I'll tell you. You are here because YOUR WAY DOESN'T FUCKING WORK! You may have replaced the heater, but you got the supply and discharge sides mixed up.
I'm not the inventor here. I don't lay claim to any great secret, or anything like that. Here's all I'm saying. I dipped for almost 30 years. I tried to quit a million times. I've been successful once: this time. What's different? Two things. KTC and my MINDSET.
When I got here I read. And I hate to read. But I read, and then I read, and then I read some more. Every time I saw something that made sense and I identified with, I read it twice.
Now, I try to be a part of the solution. I know what works for ME. Not you, but I know that KTC works for EVERYONE that wants it to. Read new guys. Read. And when a guy who has a couple of zeroes after his post tells you something - listen. You may not like it. You may not identify completely with it, but listen. You won't regret it.
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Ok, after reading this for hours yesterday with a dip in my mouth, I quit! My last dip was last night at 11:30. Here is the hard part. I woke up this morning at 6:30 am, drove the kids to school and headed to Wal Mart to buy some Smokey Mtn Chew. They don't have it, so its now 9:15 and of course I'm craving, not sure if it's the oral thing or the nic, but it's there. Either way I'm committed. I have a long drive ahead of me today, which will be tough but I'm committed to an hour at a time right now. I'll check back in later with how the day went.
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Ok, after reading this for hours yesterday with a dip in my mouth, I quit! My last dip was last night at 11:30. Here is the hard part. I woke up this morning at 6:30 am, drove the kids to school and headed to Wal Mart to buy some Smokey Mtn Chew. They don't have it, so its now 9:15 and of course I'm craving, not sure if it's the oral thing or the nic, but it's there. Either way I'm committed. I have a long drive ahead of me today, which will be tough but I'm committed to an hour at a time right now. I'll check back in later with how the day went.
When can I join a Quit Group? Now? or after 72 hours?
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Ok, after reading this for hours yesterday with a dip in my mouth, I quit! My last dip was last night at 11:30. Here is the hard part. I woke up this morning at 6:30 am, drove the kids to school and headed to Wal Mart to buy some Smokey Mtn Chew. They don't have it, so its now 9:15 and of course I'm craving, not sure if it's the oral thing or the nic, but it's there. Either way I'm committed. I have a long drive ahead of me today, which will be tough but I'm committed to an hour at a time right now. I'll check back in later with how the day went.
Well done ncgolfer! Welcome to the best decision you ever made. The next few days/weeks are going to suck, but it's worth it.
Check your Inbox(1) in the upper right corner. I'll send you some information.
IF you can't get SMC, get some sunflower seeds, gum (not nicorette), water, life savers, mints, ANYTHING to stuff in your face that does not have nicotine in it.
Listen, you CAN do this. If I can, you can. I've been 277 days without any nicotine. You got this. We will help.
PM me if you need anything.
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(peeks around the corner)
Merry Christmas Quit Brothers Sisters
Stay Quit!
-mls
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Ok, after reading this for hours yesterday with a dip in my mouth, I quit! My last dip was last night at 11:30. Here is the hard part. I woke up this morning at 6:30 am, drove the kids to school and headed to Wal Mart to buy some Smokey Mtn Chew. They don't have it, so its now 9:15 and of course I'm craving, not sure if it's the oral thing or the nic, but it's there. Either way I'm committed. I have a long drive ahead of me today, which will be tough but I'm committed to an hour at a time right now. I'll check back in later with how the day went.
When can I join a Quit Group? Now? or after 72 hours?
To answer your question, you are encouraged to join your group as soon as you've spit your shit out and dumped all your cans. Every one you have hidden in your desk, closet, under the seat of your truck, in your toolbox, in the winter jacket from last year, in the ceiling tiles, at work. ALL OF THEM!
Get into March 2011, post your Day 1, and let's get to quittin. I'll be looking for you there.
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Ok, after reading this for hours yesterday with a dip in my mouth, I quit! My last dip was last night at 11:30. Here is the hard part. I woke up this morning at 6:30 am, drove the kids to school and headed to Wal Mart to buy some Smokey Mtn Chew. They don't have it, so its now 9:15 and of course I'm craving, not sure if it's the oral thing or the nic, but it's there. Either way I'm committed. I have a long drive ahead of me today, which will be tough but I'm committed to an hour at a time right now. I'll check back in later with how the day went.
Well done ncgolfer! Welcome to the best decision you ever made. The next few days/weeks are going to suck, but it's worth it.
Check your Inbox(1) in the upper right corner. I'll send you some information.
IF you can't get SMC, get some sunflower seeds, gum (not nicorette), water, life savers, mints, ANYTHING to stuff in your face that does not have nicotine in it.
Listen, you CAN do this. If I can, you can. I've been 277 days without any nicotine. You got this. We will help.
PM me if you need anything.
My walmart didn't carry it either. I had to go to an herbal type store just to purchase it. Stay strong! If you need anything .. just ask.
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Ok, after reading this for hours yesterday with a dip in my mouth, I quit! My last dip was last night at 11:30. Here is the hard part. I woke up this morning at 6:30 am, drove the kids to school and headed to Wal Mart to buy some Smokey Mtn Chew. They don't have it, so its now 9:15 and of course I'm craving, not sure if it's the oral thing or the nic, but it's there. Either way I'm committed. I have a long drive ahead of me today, which will be tough but I'm committed to an hour at a time right now. I'll check back in later with how the day went.
Well done ncgolfer! Welcome to the best decision you ever made. The next few days/weeks are going to suck, but it's worth it.
Check your Inbox(1) in the upper right corner. I'll send you some information.
IF you can't get SMC, get some sunflower seeds, gum (not nicorette), water, life savers, mints, ANYTHING to stuff in your face that does not have nicotine in it.
Listen, you CAN do this. If I can, you can. I've been 277 days without any nicotine. You got this. We will help.
PM me if you need anything.
My walmart didn't carry it either. I had to go to an herbal type store just to purchase it. Stay strong! If you need anything .. just ask.
Thanks to everyone, another hour is about to click by and I'm heading off for a long drive. Toothpicks and gum will have to do until I find Smokey Mtn or similar. I dumped my last tin this morning (never done that before) and it was 3/4 full. The tempatation was too close. I'm Heading to post to my quit group now. Thanks again.
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Ok, after reading this for hours yesterday with a dip in my mouth, I quit! My last dip was last night at 11:30. Here is the hard part. I woke up this morning at 6:30 am, drove the kids to school and headed to Wal Mart to buy some Smokey Mtn Chew. They don't have it, so its now 9:15 and of course I'm craving, not sure if it's the oral thing or the nic, but it's there. Either way I'm committed. I have a long drive ahead of me today, which will be tough but I'm committed to an hour at a time right now. I'll check back in later with how the day went.
Well done ncgolfer! Welcome to the best decision you ever made. The next few days/weeks are going to suck, but it's worth it.
Check your Inbox(1) in the upper right corner. I'll send you some information.
IF you can't get SMC, get some sunflower seeds, gum (not nicorette), water, life savers, mints, ANYTHING to stuff in your face that does not have nicotine in it.
Listen, you CAN do this. If I can, you can. I've been 277 days without any nicotine. You got this. We will help.
PM me if you need anything.
My walmart didn't carry it either. I had to go to an herbal type store just to purchase it. Stay strong! If you need anything .. just ask.
Thanks to everyone, another hour is about to click by and I'm heading off for a long drive. Toothpicks and gum will have to do until I find Smokey Mtn or similar. I dumped my last tin this morning (never done that before) and it was 3/4 full. The tempatation was too close. I'm Heading to post to my quit group now. Thanks again.
NC-you did the right thing. You are a badass! Try every walmart you pass, i got mine at walmart. whatever it takes, just don't put that shit in your mouth!
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Ok, after reading this for hours yesterday with a dip in my mouth, I quit! My last dip was last night at 11:30. Here is the hard part. I woke up this morning at 6:30 am, drove the kids to school and headed to Wal Mart to buy some Smokey Mtn Chew. They don't have it, so its now 9:15 and of course I'm craving, not sure if it's the oral thing or the nic, but it's there. Either way I'm committed. I have a long drive ahead of me today, which will be tough but I'm committed to an hour at a time right now. I'll check back in later with how the day went.
Well done ncgolfer! Welcome to the best decision you ever made. The next few days/weeks are going to suck, but it's worth it.
Check your Inbox(1) in the upper right corner. I'll send you some information.
IF you can't get SMC, get some sunflower seeds, gum (not nicorette), water, life savers, mints, ANYTHING to stuff in your face that does not have nicotine in it.
Listen, you CAN do this. If I can, you can. I've been 277 days without any nicotine. You got this. We will help.
PM me if you need anything.
My walmart didn't carry it either. I had to go to an herbal type store just to purchase it. Stay strong! If you need anything .. just ask.
Thanks to everyone, another hour is about to click by and I'm heading off for a long drive. Toothpicks and gum will have to do until I find Smokey Mtn or similar. I dumped my last tin this morning (never done that before) and it was 3/4 full. The tempatation was too close. I'm Heading to post to my quit group now. Thanks again.
NC-you did the right thing. You are a badass! Try every walmart you pass, i got mine at walmart. whatever it takes, just don't put that shit in your mouth!
Thanks to all, another hour ticks by. I've hit another Wal-Mart and no luck. Stooped at Gander mountain and picked up jerky and seeds.
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Ok, after reading this for hours yesterday with a dip in my mouth, I quit! My last dip was last night at 11:30. Here is the hard part. I woke up this morning at 6:30 am, drove the kids to school and headed to Wal Mart to buy some Smokey Mtn Chew. They don't have it, so its now 9:15 and of course I'm craving, not sure if it's the oral thing or the nic, but it's there. Either way I'm committed. I have a long drive ahead of me today, which will be tough but I'm committed to an hour at a time right now. I'll check back in later with how the day went.
Well done ncgolfer! Welcome to the best decision you ever made. The next few days/weeks are going to suck, but it's worth it.
Check your Inbox(1) in the upper right corner. I'll send you some information.
IF you can't get SMC, get some sunflower seeds, gum (not nicorette), water, life savers, mints, ANYTHING to stuff in your face that does not have nicotine in it.
Listen, you CAN do this. If I can, you can. I've been 277 days without any nicotine. You got this. We will help.
PM me if you need anything.
My walmart didn't carry it either. I had to go to an herbal type store just to purchase it. Stay strong! If you need anything .. just ask.
Thanks to everyone, another hour is about to click by and I'm heading off for a long drive. Toothpicks and gum will have to do until I find Smokey Mtn or similar. I dumped my last tin this morning (never done that before) and it was 3/4 full. The tempatation was too close. I'm Heading to post to my quit group now. Thanks again.
NC-you did the right thing. You are a badass! Try every walmart you pass, i got mine at walmart. whatever it takes, just don't put that shit in your mouth!
Thanks to all, another hour ticks by. I've hit another Wal-Mart and no luck. Stooped at Gander mountain and picked up jerky and seeds.
Walmart is hit or miss with the SMC. I'm in Houston, and some carry it, some do not. Some supermarkets will carry it as well.
Welcome aboard, and great choice. Buckle up, and welcome to your new, nic-free life.
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Ok, after reading this for hours yesterday with a dip in my mouth, I quit! My last dip was last night at 11:30. Here is the hard part. I woke up this morning at 6:30 am, drove the kids to school and headed to Wal Mart to buy some Smokey Mtn Chew. They don't have it, so its now 9:15 and of course I'm craving, not sure if it's the oral thing or the nic, but it's there. Either way I'm committed. I have a long drive ahead of me today, which will be tough but I'm committed to an hour at a time right now. I'll check back in later with how the day went.
Well done ncgolfer! Welcome to the best decision you ever made. The next few days/weeks are going to suck, but it's worth it.
Check your Inbox(1) in the upper right corner. I'll send you some information.
IF you can't get SMC, get some sunflower seeds, gum (not nicorette), water, life savers, mints, ANYTHING to stuff in your face that does not have nicotine in it.
Listen, you CAN do this. If I can, you can. I've been 277 days without any nicotine. You got this. We will help.
PM me if you need anything.
My walmart didn't carry it either. I had to go to an herbal type store just to purchase it. Stay strong! If you need anything .. just ask.
Thanks to everyone, another hour is about to click by and I'm heading off for a long drive. Toothpicks and gum will have to do until I find Smokey Mtn or similar. I dumped my last tin this morning (never done that before) and it was 3/4 full. The tempatation was too close. I'm Heading to post to my quit group now. Thanks again.
NC-you did the right thing. You are a badass! Try every walmart you pass, i got mine at walmart. whatever it takes, just don't put that shit in your mouth!
Thanks to all, another hour ticks by. I've hit another Wal-Mart and no luck. Stooped at Gander mountain and picked up jerky and seeds.
Walmart is hit or miss with the SMC. I'm in Houston, and some carry it, some do not. Some supermarkets will carry it as well.
Welcome aboard, and great choice. Buckle up, and welcome
to your new, nic-free life.
Im in the Houston area as well. I get my SMC at HEB.
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Well it is now after 8pm on my first nic free day in 20+ years. Honestly much better than I thought it would be. I was a little shacky in the morning, a little hazy in the afternoon and a little less sober in the evening. Either way, making the committment to y'all this morning, and now to my family today, got me through this one day. I can't wait for the challenge of quitting again tomorrow.
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New blog post: Where Do You Buy Your Fake Dip?
http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=512 (http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=512)
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Well it is now after 8pm on my first nic free day in 20+ years. Honestly much better than I thought it would be. I was a little shacky in the morning, a little hazy in the afternoon and a little less sober in the evening. Either way, making the committment to y'all this morning, and now to my family today, got me through this one day. I can't wait for the challenge of quitting again tomorrow.
That's kickass. Keep it up and our March group will dominate.
I ordered the fake shit the first day of my quit. Got it in the mail yesterday after a 7 day quit streak and tried it out. I called my buddy, who chews, gave him the shit and told him to either use it or give it away. I can't have anything that reminds me of the texture...it was too much for me as I was spitting again...adjusting it....felt too comfortable. If you can do without it I say do it.
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I love sleeping one hour at a time. I feel like a kid on Christmas, checking the clock all night long.
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ncgolfer I am only on day 4 and can not tell you it gets better. But we can do this. Stay with us and we will quit this crap. Stay strong, stay with us, and stay quit.
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ncgolfer I am only on day 4 and can not tell you it gets better. But we can do this. Stay with us and we will quit this crap. Stay strong, stay with us, and stay quit.
Sapperred-Thanks for the encouragement. You and I are two of the most recent quitters, we need to stick together. I'm just tired more than anything. I played golf today, which is a huge trigger for me, and got through it just fine. The key for me is that I threw out any tobacco I had left before I quit. Two of the guys I played with both Dipped and I really didn't even consider putting one in. I'm also already tired of the fake stuff. I think it makes my tounge numb, going back to jerky for now.
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You guys got this! Posting is serious voodoo on your craves - make your commitment, stick to your word. That's all it boils down to. I'm in the Feb quit group, not that far ahead - but I CAN tell you it gets better. Everyday its easier for me to make that commitment to this group.
My number is yours if you need it.
Nick
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I had a wicked dip dream last night. It gave me a feeling of guilt that lasted throughout the day today. I think it stems from a Christmas party I was at last night at a friends house. All my close friends were there and they all support my Quit. Later in the night someone busted out some nice cigars. I was offered one and of course I refused.
As I was watching everyone puffing away out on the porch I realized that would be something I miss more than dipping. Maybe 3 or 4 times a year I would have a good cigar with friends at certain occasions and really enjoyed them. I know that because I'm an addict that I can't let any nicotine enter my system in any form. It was a little depressing knowing that I can never have another cigar, a loss due to my Quit. So I think that's what set off the brutal dip dream.
Or maybe it was the 12 scotch on the rocks..... ;)
In any case, on day 112 of my Quit I passed a test on a trigger that I had forgotten about, the good ole cigar.
Brian
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This is my first post and I kind of had to look around before I knew where to put it. My last dip, 2 Grizzly Wintergreen pouches, was December 15, 2010, right in the morning when I woke up before my Intro to Management final. Part of me knew that quitting during finals was going to be a stupid idea, but I made it through and now I'm enjoying life at home (and finally some good food). So technically, it's Day 5 for me right now and what I did this morning was go online, search "mouth cancer" on Google Images, and see the reason why I'm quitting, because the cravings are killing me right now. Sadly, it doesn't really scare me as much as it should. It feels like a tease almost because I could easily take a 10 min walk down to the Mobil right now, get me a tin of my favorite dip, and just be content with life. Sitting around doing nothing, which is what I'm doing right now, is my biggest trigger.
Life, for now, sucks.
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This is my first post and I kind of had to look around before I knew where to put it. My last dip, 2 Grizzly Wintergreen pouches, was December 15, 2010, right in the morning when I woke up before my Intro to Management final. Part of me knew that quitting during finals was going to be a stupid idea, but I made it through and now I'm enjoying life at home (and finally some good food). So technically, it's Day 5 for me right now and what I did this morning was go online, search "mouth cancer" on Google Images, and see the reason why I'm quitting, because the cravings are killing me right now. Sadly, it doesn't really scare me as much as it should. It feels like a tease almost because I could easily take a 10 min walk down to the Mobil right now, get me a tin of my favorite dip, and just be content with life. Sitting around doing nothing, which is what I'm doing right now, is my biggest trigger.
Life, for now, sucks.
FightinIrish try some of these photos they always help me keep my frame of mind. http://www.killthecan.org/pics/ (http://www.killthecan.org/pics/)
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I'm wiped out. I've made it through the 72 hours to get the Nic out of my system and am counting days instead of hours, but sleep deprivation is killing me. Look at my Roll Posts, I've gotten into ritual of posting between 4 and 5am, which wouldn't be bad if I went to sleep before midnight. Oh well Day 4 has brought me tiredness and a complete loss of taste. It is amazing to me that the stupid can I carried around in my pocket for the last 25 years has had such an effect on my system. The challenge keeps me going. I cannot wait to feel what tomorrow brings without Nic.
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I'm wiped out. I've made it through the 72 hours to get the Nic out of my system and am counting days instead of hours, but sleep deprivation is killing me. Look at my Roll Posts, I've gotten into ritual of posting between 4 and 5am, which wouldn't be bad if I went to sleep before midnight. Oh well Day 4 has brought me tiredness and a complete loss of taste. It is amazing to me that the stupid can I carried around in my pocket for the last 25 years has had such an effect on my system. The challenge keeps me going. I cannot wait to feel what tomorrow brings without Nic.
This is badass. Be proud ncgolfer. Three days is NO joke. There's nothing wrong with counting hours, by the way. Don't worry about days. They'll come.
I would love to tell you 'Tomorrow is a better day' but that may not be true, unfortunately. You're going to feel like shit for a long time, because, like everyone else here, you DID carry that fucking can around for XX number of years. The good news is, your body is healing. That's what all of this shit you're going through is all about.
Keep up the good work my man. Don't hesitate to PM me if you need anything.
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I'm wiped out. I've made it through the 72 hours to get the Nic out of my system and am counting days instead of hours, but sleep deprivation is killing me. Look at my Roll Posts, I've gotten into ritual of posting between 4 and 5am, which wouldn't be bad if I went to sleep before midnight. Oh well Day 4 has brought me tiredness and a complete loss of taste. It is amazing to me that the stupid can I carried around in my pocket for the last 25 years has had such an effect on my system. The challenge keeps me going. I cannot wait to feel what tomorrow brings without Nic.
This is badass. Be proud ncgolfer. Three days is NO joke. There's nothing wrong with counting hours, by the way. Don't worry about days. They'll come.
I would love to tell you 'Tomorrow is a better day' but that may not be true, unfortunately. You're going to feel like shit for a long time, because, like everyone else here, you DID carry that fucking can around for XX number of years. The good news is, your body is healing. That's what all of this shit you're going through is all about.
Keep up the good work my man. Don't hesitate to PM me if you need anything.
ncgolfer. day 6 for me and still tough. sleep is difficult for me still also wake up all the time dry mouth and craven for. But we are still quit. if you need anything let me know.
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Big win today. As I was getting ready to leave this morning I looked in my briefcase for some notes I took at a meeting last week. As I reached in the bag I found a full tin of Red Seal fine cut wintergreen. Pulled out and asked my wife if I should give it to one of my friends or just dump it and she said to leave it on the counter and that she wanted to dump it. Must be some sort of special win for her to dump a can after all of these years of me telling her not too touch my stash or spitter. Either way, I resisted and am keeping the quit for another day.
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Big win today. As I was getting ready to leave this morning I looked in my briefcase for some notes I took at a meeting last week. As I reached in the bag I found a full tin of Red Seal fine cut wintergreen. Pulled out and asked my wife if I should give it to one of my friends or just dump it and she said to leave it on the counter and that she wanted to dump it. Must be some sort of special win for her to dump a can after all of these years of me telling her not too touch my stash or spitter. Either way, I resisted and am keeping the quit for another day.
That is a great one and means your wife is in on the quit. Great job and we are still in this together.
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NCGolfer - You're doing great. You too, Sappered. The key is to embrace the suck. Think of it like you're Kramer on Seinfeld when he gave up sleeping. There is so much more time to do stuff...climb the walls, log on to KTC, catch up on porno sites...uh, I mean, Christmas cards and stuff.
Seriously though, the sleep was a huge issue for me. It didn't come back for me for about 45 days...even now at a 100 I still have sleepless nights. Not sure it that is from quitting, but I don't recall that happening before my quit date. Regardless, one of the thoughts I kept in my mind was something along these lines...
"Sleeplessness is part of the healing process...I dipped for 20 years, what's a few nights of sleeplessness? I GET to be stay awake at night. Sleeplessness is a privilege...a benefit to quitting. The alternative is death."
Then I would re-read the Kern family story or the Contract or something. Tivo helped quite a bit, too. Anything to stay quit!!! Your life depends on it.
Stay strong, brothers. You can do this!!!
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It's been one of those weird days. Nothing really to keep me busy and not really craving but it seems to always be on my mind today. At day 87 I'm really happy that this quit has taken and that I found KTC. But as I/we move closer and celebrate our buddys (and buddesses) making the HOF I'm feeling kind of odd about the whole thing. I'm excited but also spooked. Making the HOF is a big step and something I'll be proud of, but then I realize, on day 101 I'll get up and do it all over again. On day 1001, I'll get up and do it all over again. I've never really been involved in something I can't finish or better yet that has no finish, so it's weird. Grateful, but trying to get my mind around it.
I have trouble getting my mind around this concept as well. I am a very goal oriented person, and the thought of never being able to put a final dagger in this quit is disturbing. It is a battle that will go on for the rest of our lives and I guess we will never be able to claim ultimate victory over the addiction.
However if you think about it, life is a constant and ongoing journey. Just because you graduate from grade school, highschool or college doesn't mean you are done learning. Just because you marry your wife doesn't mean your relationship stops growing stronger. Just because your kids leave the house, doesn't mean you stop caring and worrying about them.
So though we will never "finish" our quit....we can look forward to reaching the second floor, third floor...one year...500......commas.
"It is good to have an end to journey towards, but it is the journey that matters in the end"
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It's been one of those weird days. Nothing really to keep me busy and not really craving but it seems to always be on my mind today. At day 87 I'm really happy that this quit has taken and that I found KTC. But as I/we move closer and celebrate our buddys (and buddesses) making the HOF I'm feeling kind of odd about the whole thing. I'm excited but also spooked. Making the HOF is a big step and something I'll be proud of, but then I realize, on day 101 I'll get up and do it all over again. On day 1001, I'll get up and do it all over again. I've never really been involved in something I can't finish or better yet that has no finish, so it's weird. Grateful, but trying to get my mind around it.
I have trouble getting my mind around this concept as well. I am a very goal oriented person, and the thought of never being able to put a final dagger in this quit is disturbing. It is a battle that will go on for the rest of our lives and I guess we will never be able to claim ultimate victory over the addiction.
However if you think about it, life is a constant and ongoing journey. Just because you graduate from grade school, highschool or college doesn't mean you are done learning. Just because you marry your wife doesn't mean your relationship stops growing stronger. Just because your kids leave the house, doesn't mean you stop caring and worrying about them.
So though we will never "finish" our quit....we can look forward to reaching the second floor, third floor...one year...500......commas.
"It is good to have an end to journey towards, but it is the journey that matters in the end"
This may be helpful...
Dealing With Craves The Concept Of Forever - http://www.killthecan.org/facts/cravesforever.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/facts/cravesforever.asp)
Hang in there boys!
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It's been one of those weird days. Nothing really to keep me busy and not really craving but it seems to always be on my mind today. At day 87 I'm really happy that this quit has taken and that I found KTC. But as I/we move closer and celebrate our buddys (and buddesses) making the HOF I'm feeling kind of odd about the whole thing. I'm excited but also spooked. Making the HOF is a big step and something I'll be proud of, but then I realize, on day 101 I'll get up and do it all over again. On day 1001, I'll get up and do it all over again. I've never really been involved in something I can't finish or better yet that has no finish, so it's weird. Grateful, but trying to get my mind around it.
I have trouble getting my mind around this concept as well. I am a very goal oriented person, and the thought of never being able to put a final dagger in this quit is disturbing. It is a battle that will go on for the rest of our lives and I guess we will never be able to claim ultimate victory over the addiction.
However if you think about it, life is a constant and ongoing journey. Just because you graduate from grade school, highschool or college doesn't mean you are done learning. Just because you marry your wife doesn't mean your relationship stops growing stronger. Just because your kids leave the house, doesn't mean you stop caring and worrying about them.
So though we will never "finish" our quit....we can look forward to reaching the second floor, third floor...one year...500......commas.
"It is good to have an end to journey towards, but it is the journey that matters in the end"
This may be helpful...
Dealing With Craves The Concept Of Forever - http://www.killthecan.org/facts/cravesforever.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/facts/cravesforever.asp)
Hang in there boys!
that is disturbing and about 95% of the reason why my previous quits never worked. why does it work now, I do have a goal that I can check off daily. I quit today. when I go to bed, mental check on the list. I quit today, damn straight. That's a dagger to me. ANd I'll do it tomorrow.
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It's snowing like friggin crazy here right now. I used to LOVE to plow and dip. I think the plow will still work if I don't have a dip in, right?
RIGHT!
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It's snowing like friggin crazy here right now. I used to LOVE to plow and dip. I think the plow will still work if I don't have a dip in, right?
RIGHT!
It'll work, I was out shoveling yesterday, no more brown spit in the pure white snow.
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With the new year approaching, I have been thinking about my quit journey. Can't believe it has been 5 years now!! So many things have changed in my life during the past 5 years. Things I didn't think I could ever do without a dip I now do without even thinking about it. There are no words good enough to explain the freedom I now experience....that I never even knew possible.
The information on this site is invaluable. This information has been collected and shared by quitters. I have spent the past couple hours reading HOF postings and words of wisdom on this site. Many of them made me teary and brought back so many memories of my very own.
People helping people...that's what it's all about. Congratulations to all of you who are quit,whether it's Day 1, Day 100, 5 years, 10 years..whatever it may be. The community, information available, camaraderie, accountability....it works!
If you're thinking about quitting, are scared, nervous, doubtful....just jump right in, introduce yourself, get phone numbers and quit. Don't delay any longer. This method works and you'll make great friends along the way.
Happy New Year!
Rayne ~ 1909
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With the new year approaching, I have been thinking about my quit journey. Can't believe it has been 5 years now!! So many things have changed in my life during the past 5 years. Things I didn't think I could ever do without a dip I now do without even thinking about it. There are no words good enough to explain the freedom I now experience....that I never even knew possible.
The information on this site is invaluable. This information has been collected and shared by quitters. I have spent the past couple hours reading HOF postings and words of wisdom on this site. Many of them made me teary and brought back so many memories of my very own.Â
People helping people...that's what it's all about. Congratulations to all of you who are quit,whether it's Day 1, Day 100, 5 years, 10 years..whatever it may be. The community, information available, camaraderie, accountability....it works!
If you're thinking about quitting, are scared, nervous, doubtful....just jump right in, introduce yourself, get phone numbers and quit. Don't delay any longer. This method works and you'll make great friends along the way.
Happy New Year!
Rayne ~ 1909
Thanks Rayne....love hearing from guys who have quit long term.
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With the new year approaching, I have been thinking about my quit journey. Can't believe it has been 5 years now!! So many things have changed in my life during the past 5 years. Things I didn't think I could ever do without a dip I now do without even thinking about it. There are no words good enough to explain the freedom I now experience....that I never even knew possible.
The information on this site is invaluable. This information has been collected and shared by quitters. I have spent the past couple hours reading HOF postings and words of wisdom on this site. Many of them made me teary and brought back so many memories of my very own.Â
People helping people...that's what it's all about. Congratulations to all of you who are quit,whether it's Day 1, Day 100, 5 years, 10 years..whatever it may be. The community, information available, camaraderie, accountability....it works!
If you're thinking about quitting, are scared, nervous, doubtful....just jump right in, introduce yourself, get phone numbers and quit. Don't delay any longer. This method works and you'll make great friends along the way.
Happy New Year!
Rayne ~ 1909
Thanks Rayne....love hearing from guys who have quit long term.
Thanks Rayne! Good to see you!
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Only one week left to get stocking stuffer pricing on your QSX Milestone Chips!
http://www.killthecan.org/store/milestone-chips.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/store/milestone-chips.asp)
Sale ends when the year ends!
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Only one week left to get stocking stuffer pricing on your QSX Milestone Chips!
http://www.killthecan.org/store/milestone-chips.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/store/milestone-chips.asp)
Sale ends when the year ends!
What a bargain! I went ahead and got my 1 year chip. A little early, but now I can't fuck it up! :P
Thanks for all you do Chewie.
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Only one DAY left to get stocking stuffer pricing on your QSX Milestone Chips!
http://www.killthecan.org/store/milestone-chips.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/store/milestone-chips.asp)
Sale ends when the year ends!
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I have decided after 25 years of dipping to quit at midnight tonight. I am dedicated...
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I have decided after 25 years of dipping to quit at midnight tonight. I am dedicated...
Hope to see your name in April Roll Call today.
Luke
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I have decided after 25 years of dipping to quit at midnight tonight. I am dedicated...
Throw that can away and post roll. I was a can a day Kodiak abuser for 19 years and I've been clean for the past 68 days. This program works. I tried quitting on my own and when I was on the brink of caving, I found this support group. It can work for you too.
Pat
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I have decided after 25 years of dipping to quit at midnight tonight. I am dedicated...
grab a hold of sumpin and hold on title.....
YOU can save your life today......we can help.
post roll and let us......
index.php?showtopic=4159hl= (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=4159&hl=)
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I have decided after 25 years of dipping to quit at midnight tonight. I am dedicated...
awesome! Best choice you've made this year!
Join the site and post roll religiously. Get some #'s from April buds and set your first target to quit for 100 days.
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I have decided after 25 years of dipping to quit at midnight tonight. I am dedicated...
Happy New Year!
Now get it done!
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Life throws you some shit sometimes. Are you ever ready for it? Things are going along fine and then, boom. Car breaks down. Boss lays you off. Your daughter got denied her student loan. Your mortgage is overdue. Your wife is leaving you. Your mom dies.
It has been said many times before by people who are far more articulate than I, so I will paraphrase - It matters not how many times a man gets knocked down; what matters is how many times he gets back up. I am getting back up today. I will get back up tomorrow. I will continue to get up. That's who I am. That's who my kids think I am. That's who my wife needs me to be. That's who my parents raised me to be. I will continue to get up because God has given me that resolve.
My addiction will not help me stand. It will not help me get up. For those of you that have been following the drama in the Springer family, I have been dealing with even more than I have shared here. The one thing is, I will not dip to 'make it all better'. I will not dip to 'ease the nerves'. I will not dip 'just to get through this'. I will not dip.
To all the incredible quitters here that have sent their prayers, kind words, and support; I cannot begin to thank you all. Words cannot express my gratitude. From the fine group of quitters in June 2010 to everyone that PM'd, texted, or emailed. I couldn't list you all, because I'd forget someone and I don't want to do that.
If you're a newbie and thinking about quitting dip - stick around. You're in for the ride of your life. The question is, "Are you ready?"
Five years ago today I lost mom to Cancer. Cancer sucks.
Never Again. For Any Reason.