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Community => General Discussion => Topic started by: chewie on December 30, 2016, 09:28:00 AM
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General quit discussion, questions, answers, etc.
Guests looking to quit looking for answers are welcome.
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Welcome to 2017...now, let's get things started here!
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Happy New Year quitters!
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Happy New Year quitters!
Day 3 nicotine free. Just joined the site. Thanks for such a powerful tool to help through the journey. First day back to work and my head is pounding. I feel like dogshit. 30 degrees outside and I'm sweating like its a hundred. Worth it the end though right? Time to bite the pillow and deal.
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Happy New Year quitters!
Day 3 nicotine free. Just joined the site. Thanks for such a powerful tool to help through the journey. First day back to work and my head is pounding. I feel like dogshit. 30 degrees outside and I'm sweating like its a hundred. Worth it the end though right? Time to bite the pillow and deal.
100% worth it my man. Hang in there, bite that pillow and keep quitting!
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Just quit! glad I found this forum as I am sure I'll need the help. Now I just gotta drive home from work without dipping! guess it starts with the 1st drive!
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McRae I'm here with ya. First day for me also. We got this.
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Ok quitters. What's the closest thing to Copenhagen in the fake shit. I need a crutch!!
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Need help fellas! Been quite for over a month. Dipped for about 25+ yrs. quite because I had a strange feeling from my chin to the bottom of my throat. Went to an oral surgeon an a ear, nose an throat dr. Had visual by both dr's an CT an scope scan of my throat. No signs of anything! But I have this weird/tinder feeling! I am stressed out that I didn't get the right test done or wasn't able to access the problem properly to my dr.! Can someone help me that has dipped that long an quite??? Need y'all support please
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Ok quitters. What's the closest thing to Copenhagen in the fake shit. I need a crutch!!
I did not use any fake substitutes, and the first 9 days were total hell. On day 10 the fog finally cleared, and it's been getting slowly better. Hang in there.
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Need help fellas! Been quite for over a month. Dipped for about 25+ yrs. quite because I had a strange feeling from my chin to the bottom of my throat. Went to an oral surgeon an a ear, nose an throat dr. Had visual by both dr's an CT an scope scan of my throat. No signs of anything! But I have this weird/tinder feeling! I am stressed out that I didn't get the right test done or wasn't able to access the problem properly to my dr.! Can someone help me that has dipped that long an quite??? Need y'all support please
You cannot change the past. You may or may not be having a medical issue because of your past. You can only deal with things as they come. If you have a clean bill of health, then stop freaking out (unless you are a medical doctor and can dispute what actual doctors have said). CT scans are very comprehensive. If there was something to see, it would have shown up.
Stay quit and chill the fuck out.
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Does anyone else have an opinion
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6:02 in the morning and I made my decision last night at 11 p.m. I've been a slave to Copenhagen for almost 30 years. I'm scared of failing - I gotta do this! I "was" one of those people who brushed his teeth in the shower and had a dip in 5 minutes later. This realization that I need to quit has been gnawing st me for about a year - I'm 46 and have felt bulletproof - not anymore - my life is full of rituals that include dipping - I've visited the site once before; decided to look it up last night, and this time I made the decision. I have no idea how this is gonna go - I just know it's time. I'm scared. Help.
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6:02 in the morning and I made my decision last night at 11 p.m. I've been a slave to Copenhagen for almost 30 years. I'm scared of failing - I gotta do this! I "was" one of those people who brushed his teeth in the shower and had a dip in 5 minutes later. This realization that I need to quit has been gnawing st me for about a year - I'm 46 and have felt bulletproof - not anymore - my life is full of rituals that include dipping - I've visited the site once before; decided to look it up last night, and this time I made the decision. I have no idea how this is gonna go - I just know it's time. I'm scared. Help.
I feel your pain! I quit mid day yesterday. We wont fail. Its not an option.
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Need help fellas! Been quite for over a month. Dipped for about 25+ yrs. quite because I had a strange feeling from my chin to the bottom of my throat. Went to an oral surgeon an a ear, nose an throat dr. Had visual by both dr's an CT an scope scan of my throat. No signs of anything! But I have this weird/tinder feeling! I am stressed out that I didn't get the right test done or wasn't able to access the problem properly to my dr.! Can someone help me that has dipped that long an quite??? Need y'all support please
superdave, all kinds of weird throat / mouth sensations happen when we quit. Most are part of healing. It may be the change in ph from not having the shit in your mouth, to improved blood flow (nicotine constricts blood vessels). Best bet is to head to the March 2017 quit group and share experience with a group of quitters who are where you are in their quits.
btw I dipped for 35 years, now quit for 600 days. still get odd sensations now then, but life is much better and my mouth / throat are much healthier than before.
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6:02 in the morning and I made my decision last night at 11 p.m. I've been a slave to Copenhagen for almost 30 years. I'm scared of failing - I gotta do this! I "was" one of those people who brushed his teeth in the shower and had a dip in 5 minutes later. This realization that I need to quit has been gnawing st me for about a year - I'm 46 and have felt bulletproof - not anymore - my life is full of rituals that include dipping - I've visited the site once before; decided to look it up last night, and this time I made the decision. I have no idea how this is gonna go - I just know it's time. I'm scared. Help.
I feel your pain! I quit mid day yesterday. We wont fail. Its not an option.
Head over to the April 2017 quit group... lots of new quitters there. Its easier to do with help.
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Need help fellas! Been quite for over a month. Dipped for about 25+ yrs. quite because I had a strange feeling from my chin to the bottom of my throat. Went to an oral surgeon an a ear, nose an throat dr. Had visual by both dr's an CT an scope scan of my throat. No signs of anything! But I have this weird/tinder feeling! I am stressed out that I didn't get the right test done or wasn't able to access the problem properly to my dr.! Can someone help me that has dipped that long an quite??? Need y'all support please
superdave, all kinds of weird throat / mouth sensations happen when we quit. Most are part of healing. It may be the change in ph from not having the shit in your mouth, to improved blood flow (nicotine constricts blood vessels). Best bet is to head to the March 2017 quit group and share experience with a group of quitters who are where you are in their quits.
btw I dipped for 35 years, now quit for 600 days. still get odd sensations now then, but life is much better and my mouth / throat are much healthier than before.
Yep... relax. My jaw damn near felt like it was going to crawl off my face.
You did what you needed to do... you quit and you got checked. Now it's time to stay quit and enjoy the freedom that comes with it.
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Going on day 2 of quitting and after reading everything it's going to be rough. Already going through extreme depression after loosing the woman I was proposing too. To make things worse I take adderol at work to help focus but it makes me crave dip so I want to get off that. So now I have to deal with the Fog, and im getting hit with more lack of concentration from not taking medicine. Add the loss of my love and this is gut wrentching. I can't focus at work or sleep. Maybe this isn't best time to quit?
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6:02 in the morning and I made my decision last night at 11 p.m. I've been a slave to Copenhagen for almost 30 years. I'm scared of failing - I gotta do this! I "was" one of those people who brushed his teeth in the shower and had a dip in 5 minutes later. This realization that I need to quit has been gnawing st me for about a year - I'm 46 and have felt bulletproof - not anymore - my life is full of rituals that include dipping - I've visited the site once before; decided to look it up last night, and this time I made the decision. I have no idea how this is gonna go - I just know it's time. I'm scared. Help.
Quitting with you guys. I was the guy who woke up at 5am, brushed my teeth, had a swallow of coffee and threw in a dip heading into the shower! Don't be scared just take today, and win today, then we will deal with tomorrow. I'm only on day 2 and it sucks, but it's worth it for so many reasons. CurryB, stay strong bub, you can do it. Let's be bad ass quitters today!
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Maybe this isn't best time to quit?
Now is always the best time to quit. Dip doesn't do anything good for you man. You are here now so you might as well quit.
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Maybe this isn't best time to quit?
This is the best time to quit. I'll quit with you! there's always going to be a reason not to. I am here with you bud.
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Maybe this isn't best time to quit?
This is the best time to quit. I'll quit with you! there's always going to be a reason not to. I am here with you bud.
Thanks man. I hope my office is understanding. I can't retain anything I read. I have zero motivation to do anything. I've been Drinking a lot of water.
I dipped for last 12 years. Last 6 was about a can a day of Copenhagen long cut. Before that was various skoal. It's not really the dip that I miss which is strange. My mouth is looking for something to do but the depression and zero work drive are killing me. I don't feel like doing anything. I started working out 2 weeks ago and was getting 2 a days in but now I don't feel like it at all. Could it be depression from break up and not the dip or is this normal? I'm not a sensitive person and pride my self on not showing emotion but this sucks.
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Maybe this isn't best time to quit?
This is the best time to quit. I'll quit with you! there's always going to be a reason not to. I am here with you bud.
Thanks man. I hope my office is understanding. I can't retain anything I read. I have zero motivation to do anything. I've been Drinking a lot of water.
I dipped for last 12 years. Last 6 was about a can a day of Copenhagen long cut. Before that was various skoal. It's not really the dip that I miss which is strange. My mouth is looking for something to do but the depression and zero work drive are killing me. I don't feel like doing anything. I started working out 2 weeks ago and was getting 2 a days in but now I don't feel like it at all. Could it be depression from break up and not the dip or is this normal? I'm not a sensitive person and pride my self on not showing emotion but this sucks.
Hey, I am only in day 2 at this and am certainly not a "normal" person so it's hard for me to tell you whats normal or not. I would assume everything you are feeling is as it should be. From what I have read on various posts around this forum, you want to workout as much as you can in addition to drinking lots of water, as sweating and exercise will help force the NIC out of your body faster. I would try to get into the gym even for a little bit, as least its something that might take your mind off dipping, and allow you to use some of your energy up. I was a big cope long cut original guy.
you can do it, I think when you get off work you should do something thats out of your routine. Do something that you don't relate to dipping.
Also, I bought sunflower seeds and that seems to be helping the oral fixation thing you are mentioning.
I'm quit with you today bud.
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Just realized another symptom i am having is nerves and I'm a little jumpy. Some one at work opened my door behind me really quickly and I nearly shot of out my damn chair! Had to laugh a little bit at the situation i have created for myself.
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Just realized another symptom i am having is nerves and I'm a little jumpy. Some one at work opened my door behind me really quickly and I nearly shot of out my damn chair! Had to laugh a little bit at the situation i have created for myself.
I wish I was a little jumpy!! My nerves are on level 100! I can't remember shit. And I have been hungry all day. This is my day 2. Day 3 better be better or I may have to leave my CCW at home.
I went to se my doctor today. He dead! Some hot little 24-25 year old perky blonde has taken his place. She prescribed something for me I don't know what. Albuterol comes to mind but that's not it . She said it would take the edge off. I told her I could quit if I started drinking again. She said I don't need alcohol to quit. I told her I don't need running shoes to run but it fucking helps.
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It's been over 3 days now since I quit. The fog mostly went away today. I've been hitting the gym, eating alot and pounding water, lol. I don't plan on ever going back to dip. The last time I "quit" was in 2010. But I only quit because I was forced to during marine corps boot camp. I know this is a nicotine free thing, but just a general question.. would using a nicotine gum make the fog come back? My roommate has some of the gum he offered me and I said no.. but thinking about having nicotine without the dip seems kind of nice lol. Would it fuck everything up?
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It's been over 3 days now since I quit. The fog mostly went away today. I've been hitting the gym, eating alot and pounding water, lol. I don't plan on ever going back to dip. The last time I "quit" was in 2010. But I only quit because I was forced to during marine corps boot camp. I know this is a nicotine free thing, but just a general question.. would using a nicotine gum make the fog come back? My roommate has some of the gum he offered me and I said no.. but thinking about having nicotine without the dip seems kind of nice lol. Would it fuck everything up?
Something tells me we should get popcorn and wait for the show to start.
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It's been over 3 days now since I quit. The fog mostly went away today. I've been hitting the gym, eating alot and pounding water, lol. I don't plan on ever going back to dip. The last time I "quit" was in 2010. But I only quit because I was forced to during marine corps boot camp. I know this is a nicotine free thing, but just a general question.. would using a nicotine gum make the fog come back? My roommate has some of the gum he offered me and I said no.. but thinking about having nicotine without the dip seems kind of nice lol. Would it fuck everything up?
Yes it would. Don't exchange one form of nicotine for another. You are addicted to nicotine (as am I and everyone else here) and to break that addiction you must quit using it, cold turkey. Using nicotine gum instead of dip is like an alcoholic using beer to get off liquor. Don't do it.
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It's been over 3 days now since I quit. The fog mostly went away today. I've been hitting the gym, eating alot and pounding water, lol. I don't plan on ever going back to dip. The last time I "quit" was in 2010. But I only quit because I was forced to during marine corps boot camp. I know this is a nicotine free thing, but just a general question.. would using a nicotine gum make the fog come back? My roommate has some of the gum he offered me and I said no.. but thinking about having nicotine without the dip seems kind of nice lol. Would it fuck everything up?
Yes it would. Don't exchange one form of nicotine for another. You are addicted to nicotine (as am I and everyone else here) and to break that addiction you must quit using it, cold turkey. Using nicotine gum instead of dip is like an alcoholic using beer to get off liquor. Don't do it.
As Tonifer said.. yes... it would make the fog come back (after you once again went through withdrawal).
This may be helpful: http://blog.killthecan.org/2009/11/whats-really-in-nrt/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2009/11/whats-really-in-nrt/)
Chewie
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It's been over 3 days now since I quit. The fog mostly went away today. I've been hitting the gym, eating alot and pounding water, lol. I don't plan on ever going back to dip. The last time I "quit" was in 2010. But I only quit because I was forced to during marine corps boot camp. I know this is a nicotine free thing, but just a general question.. would using a nicotine gum make the fog come back? My roommate has some of the gum he offered me and I said no.. but thinking about having nicotine without the dip seems kind of nice lol. Would it fuck everything up?
Yes it would. Don't exchange one form of nicotine for another. You are addicted to nicotine (as am I and everyone else here) and to break that addiction you must quit using it, cold turkey. Using nicotine gum instead of dip is like an alcoholic using beer to get off liquor. Don't do it.
As Tonifer said.. yes... it would make the fog come back (after you once again went through withdrawal).
This may be helpful: http://blog.killthecan.org/2009/11/whats-really-in-nrt/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2009/11/whats-really-in-nrt/)
Chewie
And another piece you may find relevant.
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/04/ciga ... e-quitter/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/04/cigars-and-the-quitter/)
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Anyone else have squeeky teeth when they quit? I dont know how else to explain it. My teeth now squeek
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Anyone else have squeeky teeth when they quit? I dont know how else to explain it. My teeth now squeek
Hey Matt,
I kinda had the squeaky teeth thing, I also has things taste sour all of day 2. But day 3 is going good so far!!
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Maybe this isn't best time to quit?
This is the best time to quit. I'll quit with you! there's always going to be a reason not to. I am here with you bud.
Thanks man. I hope my office is understanding. I can't retain anything I read. I have zero motivation to do anything. I've been Drinking a lot of water.
I dipped for last 12 years. Last 6 was about a can a day of Copenhagen long cut. Before that was various skoal. It's not really the dip that I miss which is strange. My mouth is looking for something to do but the depression and zero work drive are killing me. I don't feel like doing anything. I started working out 2 weeks ago and was getting 2 a days in but now I don't feel like it at all. Could it be depression from break up and not the dip or is this normal? I'm not a sensitive person and pride my self on not showing emotion but this sucks.
Hey Florida,
Checking in on you today. Hope yesterday ended well and successful.
I'm quit with you today! YOU CAN DO THIS!
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Anyone else have squeeky teeth when they quit? I dont know how else to explain it. My teeth now squeek
Hey Matt,
I kinda had the squeaky teeth thing, I also has things taste sour all of day 2. But day 3 is going good so far!!
Im on a diet. Everything taste bad anyhow. My day 3 is pretty easy so far. My secretary gave me some gum earlier. That was a big help.
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Anyone else have squeeky teeth when they quit? I dont know how else to explain it. My teeth now squeek
Hey Matt,
I kinda had the squeaky teeth thing, I also has things taste sour all of day 2. But day 3 is going good so far!!
Im on a diet. Everything taste bad anyhow. My day 3 is pretty easy so far. My secretary gave me some gum earlier. That was a big help.
I've never heard it called that before Matt, but I'm glad it helped
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Maybe this isn't best time to quit?
This is the best time to quit. I'll quit with you! there's always going to be a reason not to. I am here with you bud.
Thanks man. I hope my office is understanding. I can't retain anything I read. I have zero motivation to do anything. I've been Drinking a lot of water.
I dipped for last 12 years. Last 6 was about a can a day of Copenhagen long cut. Before that was various skoal. It's not really the dip that I miss which is strange. My mouth is looking for something to do but the depression and zero work drive are killing me. I don't feel like doing anything. I started working out 2 weeks ago and was getting 2 a days in but now I don't feel like it at all. Could it be depression from break up and not the dip or is this normal? I'm not a sensitive person and pride my self on not showing emotion but this sucks.
Hey, I am only in day 2 at this and am certainly not a "normal" person so it's hard for me to tell you whats normal or not. I would assume everything you are feeling is as it should be. From what I have read on various posts around this forum, you want to workout as much as you can in addition to drinking lots of water, as sweating and exercise will help force the NIC out of your body faster. I would try to get into the gym even for a little bit, as least its something that might take your mind off dipping, and allow you to use some of your energy up. I was a big cope long cut original guy.
you can do it, I think when you get off work you should do something thats out of your routine. Do something that you don't relate to dipping.
Also, I bought sunflower seeds and that seems to be helping the oral fixation thing you are mentioning.
I'm quit with you today bud.
Hey Florida,
Just checking in on you buddy?
Hope you have stayed strong.
-Greg
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Why the hell am I not allowed to start topics in Sports forum? Not to mention all the others that are off limits. On day 2 right now and really pissed off. How are we supposed to be active members if we can't have access to the discussion. Are we supposed to just wait for someone to finally start a topic in which we want to participate? And one more thing, why the fuck do you make roll call so fucking complicated when it could be a simple one click operation?
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Why the hell am I not allowed to start topics in Sports forum? Not to mention all the others that are off limits. On day 2 right now and really pissed off. How are we supposed to be active members if we can't have access to the discussion. Are we supposed to just wait for someone to finally start a topic in which we want to participate? And one more thing, why the fuck do you make roll call so fucking complicated when it could be a simple one click operation?
you're pissed... that's cool. it's why the forums are here.
there's a slew of reasons, and a long history as to why our forums are set up why they are... none of which you'll give a shit about currently.
you can hit REPLY to any topic that's currently set up and add your two cents to said discussion. if there's a topic you want that's not there, pm a member of the mod / admin team and we'll take care of it for you.
roll call is a special beast and again, there's a reason it's done the way it's done. could we make it easier? absolutely. hell... we could make it so you just had to check a box, or click a button. the whole point of roll call is that you have to go through some steps, to give your word, for today.
you don't see it now, but there's value in that. congratulations on 2 days of freedom. believe me when i say it only gets better.
chewie
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General quit discussion, questions, answers, etc.
Guests looking to quit looking for answers are welcome.
Hi, I just found my way here and registered. I'm nearly 40 yrs old, been chewing since I was 13, Copenhagen since I was 16. Tried to quit so many times and failed...I had just about accepted that I would have the habit until I died if it didn't kill me first. Then I saw a Facebook post with the link to this forum, so I decided what the hell, it's worth a shot. I havnt quit yet, have desire to, but little confidence given my history with the can. Where do I start here, what do I do?
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General quit discussion, questions, answers, etc.
Guests looking to quit looking for answers are welcome.
Hi, I just found my way here and registered. I'm nearly 40 yrs old, been chewing since I was 13, Copenhagen since I was 16. Tried to quit so many times and failed...I had just about accepted that I would have the habit until I died if it didn't kill me first. Then I saw a Facebook post with the link to this forum, so I decided what the hell, it's worth a shot. I havnt quit yet, have desire to, but little confidence given my history with the can. Where do I start here, what do I do?
Bro - I'm in the same boat you're in - I've been a slave to Copenhagen most of my life - ALL of my adult life - I'm 46 and I've been quit for 4 days. I made my decision Tuesday night and haven't looked back - YET. It's truly one day at a time. I can tell you that, from my experience as a recovering Alcoholic with 18 years sobriety - the first 24 hours quit were harder than putting down alcohol. A lot harder. HOWEVER - the relief literally after 3 days is amazing - you don't realize what nicotine is doing to your MIND -
So ask yourself: what do you have to lose by taking 72 hours to flush the nicotine out of your system? Try it for a few days man. If you had asked me ONE WEEK AGO if I could go a day without Cope I would have said no. What is keeping me going is the KillTheCan.org community.
This KTC Community is legit and I'm alive because of a 12 step program for Alcoholism. Nic has been my crutch. It won't be today. Maybe tomorrow - I hope not. I can do today though.
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General quit discussion, questions, answers, etc.
Guests looking to quit looking for answers are welcome.
Hi, I just found my way here and registered. I'm nearly 40 yrs old, been chewing since I was 13, Copenhagen since I was 16. Tried to quit so many times and failed...I had just about accepted that I would have the habit until I died if it didn't kill me first. Then I saw a Facebook post with the link to this forum, so I decided what the hell, it's worth a shot. I havnt quit yet, have desire to, but little confidence given my history with the can. Where do I start here, what do I do?
Bro - I'm in the same boat you're in - I've been a slave to Copenhagen most of my life - ALL of my adult life - I'm 46 and I've been quit for 4 days. I made my decision Tuesday night and haven't looked back - YET. It's truly one day at a time. I can tell you that, from my experience as a recovering Alcoholic with 18 years sobriety - the first 24 hours quit were harder than putting down alcohol. A lot harder. HOWEVER - the relief literally after 3 days is amazing - you don't realize what nicotine is doing to your MIND -
So ask yourself: what do you have to lose by taking 72 hours to flush the nicotine out of your system? Try it for a few days man. If you had asked me ONE WEEK AGO if I could go a day without Cope I would have said no. What is keeping me going is the KillTheCan.org community.
This KTC Community is legit and I'm alive because of a 12 step program for Alcoholism. Nic has been my crutch. It won't be today. Maybe tomorrow - I hope not. I can do today though.
Hello Richard. Glad you found your way here. We're happy to have you. We are 100% Nic free quitters here. You can join us, dump the cans, quit today and start by posting a daily promise to quit for that day. One day at a time (you'll see ODAAT) alot here, thats what it means.
Go to QUIT GROUPS and April 2017, that is yours. Click on the highest number next to the PAGES. and post a hello. Also on there is instructions on how to post roll.
You must be quit, not using at all in order to be in a quit group.
Brother I am at 511 days. I cant tell you how many times in 'quit' in 30 years. I was just fooling myself. Those were stoppages and they werent QUITS. The only time i have quit is when I joined KTC and posted roll in November 2017 quit group.
Hit me with a PM (Inbox upper right hand corner) with any questions, or if you;d like to exchange #'s, I cant even tell you how many KTC guys phone numbers i have. Such a great support system.
Read up on here, go to words of wisdom, HOF speeches, intros. When you are ready to quit and get that dang ASAP out of your quit date,and throw in a real honest to goodness day - lets do it.
How about today?
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General quit discussion, questions, answers, etc.
Guests looking to quit looking for answers are welcome.
Hi, I just found my way here and registered. I'm nearly 40 yrs old, been chewing since I was 13, Copenhagen since I was 16. Tried to quit so many times and failed...I had just about accepted that I would have the habit until I died if it didn't kill me first. Then I saw a Facebook post with the link to this forum, so I decided what the hell, it's worth a shot. I havnt quit yet, have desire to, but little confidence given my history with the can. Where do I start here, what do I do?
Bro - I'm in the same boat you're in - I've been a slave to Copenhagen most of my life - ALL of my adult life - I'm 46 and I've been quit for 4 days. I made my decision Tuesday night and haven't looked back - YET. It's truly one day at a time. I can tell you that, from my experience as a recovering Alcoholic with 18 years sobriety - the first 24 hours quit were harder than putting down alcohol. A lot harder. HOWEVER - the relief literally after 3 days is amazing - you don't realize what nicotine is doing to your MIND -
So ask yourself: what do you have to lose by taking 72 hours to flush the nicotine out of your system? Try it for a few days man. If you had asked me ONE WEEK AGO if I could go a day without Cope I would have said no. What is keeping me going is the KillTheCan.org community.
This KTC Community is legit and I'm alive because of a 12 step program for Alcoholism. Nic has been my crutch. It won't be today. Maybe tomorrow - I hope not. I can do today though.
Hello Richard. Glad you found your way here. We're happy to have you. We are 100% Nic free quitters here. You can join us, dump the cans, quit today and start by posting a daily promise to quit for that day. One day at a time (you'll see ODAAT) alot here, thats what it means.
Go to QUIT GROUPS and April 2017, that is yours. Click on the highest number next to the PAGES. and post a hello. Also on there is instructions on how to post roll.
You must be quit, not using at all in order to be in a quit group.
Brother I am at 511 days. I cant tell you how many times in 'quit' in 30 years. I was just fooling myself. Those were stoppages and they werent QUITS. The only time i have quit is when I joined KTC and posted roll in November 2017 quit group.
Hit me with a PM (Inbox upper right hand corner) with any questions, or if you;d like to exchange #'s, I cant even tell you how many KTC guys phone numbers i have. Such a great support system.
Read up on here, go to words of wisdom, HOF speeches, intros. When you are ready to quit and get that dang ASAP out of your quit date,and throw in a real honest to goodness day - lets do it.
How about today?
Hi Richard.
You found the best group of people to quit with. It truly is one day at a time. I am on day 5 and it just keeps getting easier and easier. Sure some times are harder than others but you learn that it take shorter to get over a craving.
I hope you decide to quit today. We will all be here.
-Greg
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General quit discussion, questions, answers, etc.
Guests looking to quit looking for answers are welcome.
Hi, I just found my way here and registered. I'm nearly 40 yrs old, been chewing since I was 13, Copenhagen since I was 16. Tried to quit so many times and failed...I had just about accepted that I would have the habit until I died if it didn't kill me first. Then I saw a Facebook post with the link to this forum, so I decided what the hell, it's worth a shot. I havnt quit yet, have desire to, but little confidence given my history with the can. Where do I start here, what do I do?
Bro - I'm in the same boat you're in - I've been a slave to Copenhagen most of my life - ALL of my adult life - I'm 46 and I've been quit for 4 days. I made my decision Tuesday night and haven't looked back - YET. It's truly one day at a time. I can tell you that, from my experience as a recovering Alcoholic with 18 years sobriety - the first 24 hours quit were harder than putting down alcohol. A lot harder. HOWEVER - the relief literally after 3 days is amazing - you don't realize what nicotine is doing to your MIND -
So ask yourself: what do you have to lose by taking 72 hours to flush the nicotine out of your system? Try it for a few days man. If you had asked me ONE WEEK AGO if I could go a day without Cope I would have said no. What is keeping me going is the KillTheCan.org community.
This KTC Community is legit and I'm alive because of a 12 step program for Alcoholism. Nic has been my crutch. It won't be today. Maybe tomorrow - I hope not. I can do today though.
Hello Richard. Glad you found your way here. We're happy to have you. We are 100% Nic free quitters here. You can join us, dump the cans, quit today and start by posting a daily promise to quit for that day. One day at a time (you'll see ODAAT) alot here, thats what it means.
Go to QUIT GROUPS and April 2017, that is yours. Click on the highest number next to the PAGES. and post a hello. Also on there is instructions on how to post roll.
You must be quit, not using at all in order to be in a quit group.
Brother I am at 511 days. I cant tell you how many times in 'quit' in 30 years. I was just fooling myself. Those were stoppages and they werent QUITS. The only time i have quit is when I joined KTC and posted roll in November 2017 quit group.
Hit me with a PM (Inbox upper right hand corner) with any questions, or if you;d like to exchange #'s, I cant even tell you how many KTC guys phone numbers i have. Such a great support system.
Read up on here, go to words of wisdom, HOF speeches, intros. When you are ready to quit and get that dang ASAP out of your quit date,and throw in a real honest to goodness day - lets do it.
How about today?
Hi Richard.
You found the best group of people to quit with. It truly is one day at a time. I am on day 5 and it just keeps getting easier and easier. Sure some times are harder than others but you learn that it take shorter to get over a craving.
I hope you decide to quit today. We will all be here.
-Greg
Also, I would be in your quit group if you quit today, so lets beat the Nic Bitch together!
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Today is my first day of quitting. I'm age 19 and have chewed off and on for a little under a year now. I started out chewing once a week when I'd go over to play poker with a friend after my Saturday wrestling meets. It increased to 3-5 a dips a day for 20 mins a time before baseball practice while in my dorms. I'd quit for a while every now and again but I'd always fall back to it. I didn't put forth my best effort. I can and will do this. I will put the determination I would use for wrestling when I'd cut weight and not eat for days at a time. A reminder of this is for me is my friend that started me on chew is leaving for the Marines today and since he must quit for this I figure if he can't have it then why should I. I want to quit for me, my family, and future family. I hope I never develop cancer from this and was wondering for any insight on the odds of cancer if I quit today. I just want to say to anyone out there that doesn't chew, never start. It isn't worth it. My mom finding a can and having a talking to me about it really made me think about having a long meaningful life. Also what really made me decide to quit is reading stories on this site. Thank you to all. Please pray for me and those this drug has affected. Thank you to all and God bless.
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Today is my first day of quitting. I'm age 19 and have chewed off and on for a little under a year now. I started out chewing once a week when I'd go over to play poker with a friend after my Saturday wrestling meets. It increased to 3-5 a dips a day for 20 mins a time before baseball practice while in my dorms. I'd quit for a while every now and again but I'd always fall back to it. I didn't put forth my best effort. I can and will do this. I will put the determination I would use for wrestling when I'd cut weight and not eat for days at a time. A reminder of this is for me is my friend that started me on chew is leaving for the Marines today and since he must quit for this I figure if he can't have it then why should I. I want to quit for me, my family, and future family. I hope I never develop cancer from this and was wondering for any insight on the odds of cancer if I quit today. I just want to say to anyone out there that doesn't chew, never start. It isn't worth it. My mom finding a can and having a talking to me about it really made me think about having a long meaningful life. Also what really made me decide to quit is reading stories on this site. Thank you to all. Please pray for me and those this drug has affected. Thank you to all and God bless.
Good choice bub. I'm quit with you today. I am one week in and it gets easier everyday.
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Today is my first day of quitting. I'm age 19 and have chewed off and on for a little under a year now. I started out chewing once a week when I'd go over to play poker with a friend after my Saturday wrestling meets. It increased to 3-5 a dips a day for 20 mins a time before baseball practice while in my dorms. I'd quit for a while every now and again but I'd always fall back to it. I didn't put forth my best effort. I can and will do this. I will put the determination I would use for wrestling when I'd cut weight and not eat for days at a time. A reminder of this is for me is my friend that started me on chew is leaving for the Marines today and since he must quit for this I figure if he can't have it then why should I. I want to quit for me, my family, and future family. I hope I never develop cancer from this and was wondering for any insight on the odds of cancer if I quit today. I just want to say to anyone out there that doesn't chew, never start. It isn't worth it. My mom finding a can and having a talking to me about it really made me think about having a long meaningful life. Also what really made me decide to quit is reading stories on this site. Thank you to all. Please pray for me and those this drug has affected. Thank you to all and God bless.
Good choice bub. I'm quit with you today. I am one week in and it gets easier everyday.
Spartan,
If you want to quit and not turn this into a 20 year addiction, then post roll but do it for yourself and not anyone else.
Each day you quit the odds are better, post roll and get after it.
ID
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I just made my first 24 hours quit.
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I just made my first 24 hours quit.
Congrats CW! Onto the next 24!
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I just made my first 24 hours quit.
Congrats CW! Onto the next 24!
Duuuuue... That's tremendous! Well done!
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I just made my first 24 hours quit.
Congrats CW! Onto the next 24!
Duuuuue... That's tremendous! Well done!
last night was rough but I made it through my Rugby Coaches meeting at the bar. It's more mental for me at this point. Gum and fake chew (even if I didn't like taste)
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I just made my first 24 hours quit.
Congrats CW! Onto the next 24!
Duuuuue... That's tremendous! Well done!
last night was rough but I made it through my Rugby Coaches meeting at the bar. It's more mental for me at this point. Gum and fake chew (even if I didn't like taste)
At this point, anything you do to keep the real stuff out of your mouth is fine. If you don't like the fake, try seeds, gum, candy, toothpicks, etc.
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I just made my first 24 hours quit.
Congrats CW! Onto the next 24!
Duuuuue... That's tremendous! Well done!
last night was rough but I made it through my Rugby Coaches meeting at the bar. It's more mental for me at this point. Gum and fake chew (even if I didn't like taste)
At this point, anything you do to keep the real stuff out of your mouth is fine. If you don't like the fake, try seeds, gum, candy, toothpicks, etc.
Ward, I assume you are posting roll? Do you have cell digits of some folks in your quit groups.
It can be a life line when things get tough. And while 48 hours is admirable, that is just a drop in the bucket compared to the number of days you used!
I am over two years quit and I still think about it, see someone chewing and notice it.
PM me if you need digits
ID Spuds
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6:02 in the morning and I made my decision last night at 11 p.m. I've been a slave to Copenhagen for almost 30 years. I'm scared of failing - I gotta do this! I "was" one of those people who brushed his teeth in the shower and had a dip in 5 minutes later. This realization that I need to quit has been gnawing st me for about a year - I'm 46 and have felt bulletproof - not anymore - my life is full of rituals that include dipping - I've visited the site once before; decided to look it up last night, and this time I made the decision. I have no idea how this is gonna go - I just know it's time. I'm scared. Help.
Quitting with you guys. I was the guy who woke up at 5am, brushed my teeth, had a swallow of coffee and threw in a dip heading into the shower! Don't be scared just take today, and win today, then we will deal with tomorrow. I'm only on day 2 and it sucks, but it's worth it for so many reasons. CurryB, stay strong bub, you can do it. Let's be bad ass quitters today!
Hellow I'm new. Not sure if I'm in the right place. Is this the location for people who have quit or working toward quitting?
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6:02 in the morning and I made my decision last night at 11 p.m. I've been a slave to Copenhagen for almost 30 years. I'm scared of failing - I gotta do this! I "was" one of those people who brushed his teeth in the shower and had a dip in 5 minutes later. This realization that I need to quit has been gnawing st me for about a year - I'm 46 and have felt bulletproof - not anymore - my life is full of rituals that include dipping - I've visited the site once before; decided to look it up last night, and this time I made the decision. I have no idea how this is gonna go - I just know it's time. I'm scared. Help.
Quitting with you guys. I was the guy who woke up at 5am, brushed my teeth, had a swallow of coffee and threw in a dip heading into the shower! Don't be scared just take today, and win today, then we will deal with tomorrow. I'm only on day 2 and it sucks, but it's worth it for so many reasons. CurryB, stay strong bub, you can do it. Let's be bad ass quitters today!
Hellow I'm new. Not sure if I'm in the right place. Is this the location for people who have quit or working toward quitting?
Hey bud this is an area to ask questions just like the one you asked.
When you're ready to get serious, and there's never gonna be a better time than RIGHT NOW, head over the the "Quit Group" section, find the group you belong in, and learn how to "post roll".
All that means is, there's a daily "roll-call" for people to make the commitment to quit for that day. It's organized by groups who quit in roughly the same month. We support each other in the Quit Groups - it's a great support mechanism.
No reason to turn back - Your addiction will never improve - eventually, nicotine will get us all if we don't quit. I'm only 8 days in - it's getting easier already - come quit with us!
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So it's been a few months since I've been here. And I've been tobacco free since August 2016. Can anybody, anybody at all help me with the fact that I still have pain between my lip and gum occasionally? Is this normal even after five months? Anybody had this? Why do the front of my gums keep getting little white spots that brush away? Nothing looks weird, no bumps, no discoloration, and I've been to the dentist and he said give it time. Well I'm still waiting lol.
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So it's been a few months since I've been here. And I've been tobacco free since August 2016. Can anybody, anybody at all help me with the fact that I still have pain between my lip and gum occasionally? Is this normal even after five months? Anybody had this? Why do the front of my gums keep getting little white spots that brush away? Nothing looks weird, no bumps, no discoloration, and I've been to the dentist and he said give it time. Well I'm still waiting lol.
Lowell, phantom pains are normal as are the white spots. Trust your dentist. Its all part of healing, and it will get much better.
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Well it's pretty real pain. If I push on the outside of my mouth under my bottom lip it hurts. But if you say it's normal to hurt this long I'll believe you. :)
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Well it's pretty real pain. If I push on the outside of my mouth under my bottom lip it hurts. But if you say it's normal to hurt this long I'll believe you. :)
Congrats on your quit. Have to agree. IM at 500+days and I still get an occassional throb where the dip used to seat. I guess we have to understand i mean really understand what we were doing to our gums, teeth, lips, throat, stomach, breath... you name it.
It is pure poison and this is part of the the rewiring. Just like the brain has to rewire form the addiction, the body needs time to heal.
I would make sure to pass this info on to the dentist tho. Have them screen/x--ray etc.. Im sure its fine. These thigns do start to go away after 3 months or so. Trust us
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https://www.naturalstacks.com/products/ciltep (https://www.naturalstacks.com/products/ciltep)
Does anyone have any first hand knowledge of this product
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https://www.naturalstacks.com/products/ciltep (https://www.naturalstacks.com/products/ciltep)
Does anyone have any first hand knowledge of this product
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Hello to everyone.......I've been using this site since I quit (Dec 1 2016) so I am slowly creeping up on 2 months. After a 29 year relationship with Copenhagen I pulled the plug cold turkey......so far so good.
I found this site the week I quit but just joined today because I wanted to say how awesome all of you are. I have to say my quit has not been as bad as apparently a lot of your has been thank God....we really are all built differently. Oddly though last night I had my first "dip dream" where I dreamt I had a dip in my mouth, it was really odd (as most dreams are) I don't remember actually taking the dip but I remember realizing it was there, and the disappointment I felt in myself. I woke up this morning and was so relieved it was just a dream.
In all my years I would always think "I know I need to quit, how would I feel if I ever heard the news that I had cancer" but on the flip side of that I never felt I could actually do it.
Here is my short story.........
I had not been to the dentist in a while, I was avoiding it as I am sure perhaps a lot of you do. My wife stayed on me and made me an appointment and threatened me to not go this time. All other times she would make my appointments and I would not go saying I got busy at work.
So last June she made me another appointment and I knew I had to go, I'm 46.....I can't avoid going the rest of my life. So I go in for a cleaning and they tell me I had gum disease. Now this may not be a huge deal to most but it scared me. I have always taken care of myself and never had anything wrong with me at all. (I did NOT tell my wife they said this). Due to the gum disease they did not clean my teeth, they said it was going to take more than a standard "cleaning" so I declined and left.
Well right after this appointment I had a nice job offer and decided to take it. This naturally caused me to lose that insurance and I felt like I was off the hook for a while longer. My wife tells me as soon as the new insurance starts she was going to find a new dentist and get me another appointment. I made a promise to myself the day she calls me and says she has me an appointment is the day I quit. I had to come up with a date or a reason to stop and that was mine.
I had just bought a new can around lunch time on Dec 1st. I was pulling up at a gas station when "the call" came in. My wife says "honey I have you an appointment for next Thursday (Dec 8th).
SO now is the time of truth.........as I stood by my truck pumping gas I knew what I had to do. I reached over in my console and grabbed the almost full can of Copenhagen and threw it in the trash can at the gas pump.
When I make it to the dentist 7 days later they said my teeth were in desperate need of cleaning but no mention of gum disease to my surprise. I have been back another time since for a cavity and my teeth are getting in good shape.
I have to be honest.......when the 2nd dentist never mentioned gum disease I began to tell myself "see nothing was wrong, we can start dipping again" but I absolutely REFUSE. The free feeling I have now cannot be put into words. The not having to be scared of the dentist out of what horrible news might I receive? These great feelings far outweigh the craving for a dip to me. We are all different, we all quit for different reasons and we all have our weaknesses. I never thought I could do it but I have, this fight is over for me. I still have cravings sure, but they aren't so bad they hurt me. I go this.........and it was easier than I ever expected.
Thank you all for helping people like me that may never join but they read what you have to say anyway.
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https://www.naturalstacks.com/products/ciltep (https://www.naturalstacks.com/products/ciltep)
Does anyone have any first hand knowledge of this product
Link is broken.
https://www.naturalstacks.com/products/ciltep (https://www.naturalstacks.com/products/ciltep)
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https://www.naturalstacks.com/products/ciltep (https://www.naturalstacks.com/products/ciltep)
Does anyone have any first hand knowledge of this product
Link is broken.
https://www.naturalstacks.com/products/ciltep (https://www.naturalstacks.com/products/ciltep)
Sorry... I got nothing. Have never heard of that. Looks interesting though.
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Nootropics are great. Stay focus and keeps an even brain keel. When I was talking to my therapist she said add some gaba to my diet. It is one of the chemicals robbed by nicotine. It does help with a happier outlook/feeling. My 2 cents. Use with moderation. They can give you a good zap, I start with less than recommended dose.
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Hello to everyone.......I've been using this site since I quit (Dec 1 2016) so I am slowly creeping up on 2 months. After a 29 year relationship with Copenhagen I pulled the plug cold turkey......so far so good.
I found this site the week I quit but just joined today because I wanted to say how awesome all of you are. I have to say my quit has not been as bad as apparently a lot of your has been thank God....we really are all built differently. Oddly though last night I had my first "dip dream" where I dreamt I had a dip in my mouth, it was really odd (as most dreams are) I don't remember actually taking the dip but I remember realizing it was there, and the disappointment I felt in myself. I woke up this morning and was so relieved it was just a dream.
In all my years I would always think "I know I need to quit, how would I feel if I ever heard the news that I had cancer" but on the flip side of that I never felt I could actually do it.
Here is my short story.........
I had not been to the dentist in a while, I was avoiding it as I am sure perhaps a lot of you do. My wife stayed on me and made me an appointment and threatened me to not go this time. All other times she would make my appointments and I would not go saying I got busy at work.
So last June she made me another appointment and I knew I had to go, I'm 46.....I can't avoid going the rest of my life. So I go in for a cleaning and they tell me I had gum disease. Now this may not be a huge deal to most but it scared me. I have always taken care of myself and never had anything wrong with me at all. (I did NOT tell my wife they said this). Due to the gum disease they did not clean my teeth, they said it was going to take more than a standard "cleaning" so I declined and left.
Well right after this appointment I had a nice job offer and decided to take it. This naturally caused me to lose that insurance and I felt like I was off the hook for a while longer. My wife tells me as soon as the new insurance starts she was going to find a new dentist and get me another appointment. I made a promise to myself the day she calls me and says she has me an appointment is the day I quit. I had to come up with a date or a reason to stop and that was mine.
I had just bought a new can around lunch time on Dec 1st. I was pulling up at a gas station when "the call" came in. My wife says "honey I have you an appointment for next Thursday (Dec 8th).
SO now is the time of truth.........as I stood by my truck pumping gas I knew what I had to do. I reached over in my console and grabbed the almost full can of Copenhagen and threw it in the trash can at the gas pump.
When I make it to the dentist 7 days later they said my teeth were in desperate need of cleaning but no mention of gum disease to my surprise. I have been back another time since for a cavity and my teeth are getting in good shape.
I have to be honest.......when the 2nd dentist never mentioned gum disease I began to tell myself "see nothing was wrong, we can start dipping again" but I absolutely REFUSE. The free feeling I have now cannot be put into words. The not having to be scared of the dentist out of what horrible news might I receive? These great feelings far outweigh the craving for a dip to me. We are all different, we all quit for different reasons and we all have our weaknesses. I never thought I could do it but I have, this fight is over for me. I still have cravings sure, but they aren't so bad they hurt me. I go this.........and it was easier than I ever expected.
Thank you all for helping people like me that may never join but they read what you have to say anyway.
sk8er 36 Congratulations on your decision and getting your first dentist appointment out of the way.
Stay quit at all cost, keep track of your days with your wife, celebrate each milestone. Be aware of the 'just one' whisper, it will end poorly.
However, I am an addict and I need this routine, accountability and structure because I have failed too many times. This recipe works.
Stay quit, I will be here tomorrow if you ever need to chat,
Idaho Spuds 884
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Hello to everyone.......I've been using this site since I quit (Dec 1 2016) so I am slowly creeping up on 2 months. After a 29 year relationship with Copenhagen I pulled the plug cold turkey......so far so good.
I found this site the week I quit but just joined today because I wanted to say how awesome all of you are. I have to say my quit has not been as bad as apparently a lot of your has been thank God....we really are all built differently.
I totally get it, I tried Copenhagen once or twice and wanted to quit as well. I had to get back to skoal real quick. I have a theory, I think they would fill all the skoal cans first then rummage around the old tobacco warehouse scrapping shit out of the corners and off the equipment, probably off the top of the urinals as well. Have it in a bucket, more like a giant vat, and then add some flavor such as kerosene, cat shit, and a sprinkle of toe jam. Let it ferment for a couple of weeks then fill those Copenhagen cans. That's what I could make out when I tried it.
So back in high school we had some guy in FFA sitting in the back of the class dipping Copenhagen, this guy spit on the carpet for a fucking year. We were freshman so I really wasn't appalling or anything.
Mind is really wondering today... Starting Day 17
Watched superman vs batman last night and was fucking distraught that superman died, like WTF!
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Hello, I'm Brian. Brand new to the site. I'm ready to quit but I've failed miserably up to this point. My question is how do I join a quit group so I'll have a group to get each other through the first hundred days? Thanks!
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Hello, I'm Brian. Brand new to the site. I'm ready to quit but I've failed miserably up to this point. My question is how do I join a quit group so I'll have a group to get each other through the first hundred days? Thanks!
topic/30106725/308/#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30106725/308/#new)
your in this group with us if you have quit today.
It's the April 2017 group.
Go ahead and set date for today and throw that damn can away.
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I am new to this site and I am on day 3 of no chew. It has been the hardest thing in my life to do up to this point, I have to admit I was reading on here before I quit and was thinking there is no way it will be that hard for me! I was DEAD wrong, I can't believe I have held up for 3 days because those cravings come on as hard as anything I have ever experienced in my life! I want to know how you guys do things around here, and was just wondering if I do not post roll, can I still post and just tell everyone how this is going for me? and how I am feeling about all this! I just want to be able to write and vent! but I want to respect the process you all have built here so don't want to do anything against the rules. Thanks everyone, I am so happy to have found this group!
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Bdarbe- I thought posting roll was silly. But it has power. I now look forward to posting, I put my name on the line and make my promise. It is part of the system. I works, try it. It makes you accountable, it makes you stay quit. Post roll, it is easy. Day 10 for me
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I am new to this site and I am on day 3 of no chew. It has been the hardest thing in my life to do up to this point, I have to admit I was reading on here before I quit and was thinking there is no way it will be that hard for me! I was DEAD wrong, I can't believe I have held up for 3 days because those cravings come on as hard as anything I have ever experienced in my life! I want to know how you guys do things around here, and was just wondering if I do not post roll, can I still post and just tell everyone how this is going for me? and how I am feeling about all this! I just want to be able to write and vent! but I want to respect the process you all have built here so don't want to do anything against the rules. Thanks everyone, I am so happy to have found this group!
Here is the "why" for posting roll:
topic/10391308/1/#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/10391308/1/#new)
Posting roll is the centerpiece to this whole endeavor, and not coincidentally, it works. You can do it, but you have to jump in with both feet Bdarbe. You won't regret it.
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Hello to everyone.......I've been using this site since I quit (Dec 1 2016) so I am slowly creeping up on 2 months. After a 29 year relationship with Copenhagen I pulled the plug cold turkey......so far so good.
I found this site the week I quit but just joined today because I wanted to say how awesome all of you are. I have to say my quit has not been as bad as apparently a lot of your has been thank God....we really are all built differently.
I totally get it, I tried Copenhagen once or twice and wanted to quit as well. I had to get back to skoal real quick. I have a theory, I think they would fill all the skoal cans first then rummage around the old tobacco warehouse scrapping shit out of the corners and off the equipment, probably off the top of the urinals as well. Have it in a bucket, more like a giant vat, and then add some flavor such as kerosene, cat shit, and a sprinkle of toe jam. Let it ferment for a couple of weeks then fill those Copenhagen cans. That's what I could make out when I tried it.
So back in high school we had some guy in FFA sitting in the back of the class dipping Copenhagen, this guy spit on the carpet for a fucking year. We were freshman so I really wasn't appalling or anything.
Mind is really wondering today... Starting Day 17
Watched superman vs batman last night and was fucking distraught that superman died, like WTF!
Dude for real isn't it crazy how it don't "taste good" but we push through anyway until we are addicted? My very first dip was sitting on a stump in a cow pasture with a buddy of mine. He had a can and told me we needed to try it for the first time together we were both 16yrs old at the time. It was disgusting on every level but not to worry WE FORCED OURSELVES TO LOVE IT!! What idiots we were
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Well I decided to give it a try again. I tried awhile back and made it a month.. I was remarried a year ago and now with grandkids I hate to dip around them. I do love taking a drive and dip but I will need to learn to replace the dip... Looking forward to a life without this crap.
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Third day without grizz. Just wondering if it is normal to feel that your equilibrium is completely off. Besides feelings like crap, throughout the day I feel really unbalanced and somewhat dizzy. Are these associated with withdrawal symptoms?
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I would say that's a big ole YES. As well as other symptoms. I found for the first 2 weeks I couldn't sleep........it was the craziest thing ever what does sleep have to do with it ya know? Nicotine is no joke and can really cause a lot of odd things to happen getting off of it.
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Thanks man, and yeah I've just been feeling real odd the day after having no nicotine. Got a bag of sunflower seeds which seem to help cope with the problem of not having Dip in my mouth
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Thanks man, and yeah I've just been feeling real odd the day after having no nicotine. Got a bag of sunflower seeds which seem to help cope with the problem of not having Dip in my mouth
So how's it going man
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Hello to everyone.......I've been using this site since I quit (Dec 1 2016) so I am slowly creeping up on 2 months. After a 29 year relationship with Copenhagen I pulled the plug cold turkey......so far so good.
I found this site the week I quit but just joined today because I wanted to say how awesome all of you are. I have to say my quit has not been as bad as apparently a lot of your has been thank God....we really are all built differently.
I totally get it, I tried Copenhagen once or twice and wanted to quit as well. I had to get back to skoal real quick. I have a theory, I think they would fill all the skoal cans first then rummage around the old tobacco warehouse scrapping shit out of the corners and off the equipment, probably off the top of the urinals as well. Have it in a bucket, more like a giant vat, and then add some flavor such as kerosene, cat shit, and a sprinkle of toe jam. Let it ferment for a couple of weeks then fill those Copenhagen cans. That's what I could make out when I tried it.
So back in high school we had some guy in FFA sitting in the back of the class dipping Copenhagen, this guy spit on the carpet for a fucking year. We were freshman so I really wasn't appalling or anything.
Mind is really wondering today... Starting Day 17
Watched superman vs batman last night and was fucking distraught that superman died, like WTF!
Dude for real isn't it crazy how it don't "taste good" but we push through anyway until we are addicted? My very first dip was sitting on a stump in a cow pasture with a buddy of mine. He had a can and told me we needed to try it for the first time together we were both 16yrs old at the time. It was disgusting on every level but not to worry WE FORCED OURSELVES TO LOVE IT!! What idiots we were
I wish that had been the case with me. I was 26 years old my younger brother had a can of Copenhagen wintergreen long cut and said he liked to use it occasionally for a buzz. We had split a 6 pack of light beer and I thought why not see what it's like. I loved it. I thought the buzz was amazing and it tasted great. But over time the taste gets old and the buzz goes away once you are good and hooked on it. What a trap...
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Hello everyone,
I am on day 5 of my journey. I was dipping almost a can of Grizzly mint a day for the past 5 years. I did it for me, my family, and my wife. I always thought men could be stupid but now looking back at how stupid we really are to put poison in our mouths everyday is just insane. We wouldn't put gasoline in our mouth but I guess something with just as much chemicals is ok.
I used to drink 4-5 diet cokes a day and quit that about 2 years ago since I was tired of drinking all the fake shit...but yet I didn't think quitting dipping was a priority. What insanity.
Lying to my wife, friends, and family about it really took me to a place I didn't want to go. For what....just so I could catch a little buzz and feel like a country boy with a dip in my mouth.
Things are getting much better for me and I want this journey to continue.
Everyone can do it....just keep focused!
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We are in control of what we do and we are responsible for our decisions. Nothing makes us fail except our own weaknesses. As much as I want to swing into a convenience store sometimes and grab a can of Copenhagen I don't, because I make the decision not to. Plain and simple "I don't dip anymore"
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We are in control of what we do and we are responsible for our decisions. Nothing makes us fail except our own weaknesses. As much as I want to swing into a convenience store sometimes and grab a can of Copenhagen I don't, because I make the decision not to. Plain and simple "I don't dip anymore"
You do not want to "swing into a convenience store sometimes and grab a can of Copenhagen". That is your addict brain telling you what to do. That is pure insanity, and you seem to know it.
Your addict brain does not control your actions anymore because you have made the choice to be free. Stop even letting your addict brain from getting a word in edgewise about this.
You want to be Quit, and you are. If you "want" to go buy a can, you are yet to be free.
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We are in control of what we do and we are responsible for our decisions. Nothing makes us fail except our own weaknesses. As much as I want to swing into a convenience store sometimes and grab a can of Copenhagen I don't, because I make the decision not to. Plain and simple "I don't dip anymore"
You do not want to "swing into a convenience store sometimes and grab a can of Copenhagen". That is your addict brain telling you what to do. That is pure insanity, and you seem to know it.
Your addict brain does not control your actions anymore because you have made the choice to be free. Stop even letting your addict brain from getting a word in edgewise about this.
You want to be Quit, and you are. If you "want" to go buy a can, you are yet to be free.
Awesome and well said!! I could not agree more........those moments come and go so quick too. All it takes is a few minutes of being strong and it passes
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I am on day 22 of no chew, chewed Kodiak for 30 plus years and decided to quit cold turkey, it's been rough going but it really is getting easier some days are better than others
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I do not believe there was a waking moment since I was 16 that I didn't have a dip in my mouth. It was the first thing I reached for when I opened my eyes every morning. The thought of quitting scared me to death. You got this man!!
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First day on the page and first 5 minutes after my very last dip. What should I expect? How do I power through the hard times?
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First day on the page and first 5 minutes after my very last dip. What should I expect? How do I power through the hard times?
Your nest bet is to head over to the May 2017 Pre-HOF Group (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30137057/) and posting roll, and the posting an introduction about yourself.
The next 3 days are going to be hard - we call them The Suck, and we're not kidding. But if you can get past 72 hours, there is no more nicotine in your system, and you can live free...
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So I quit three days ago, find this site, and think, "cool, I'll check it out"
Someone says to head over to May 2017 for support and.....
Are you kidding me?
A bunch of back and forth sniveling about you did this, I did that...
Bummer. Coulda used some help.
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Anybody know if those dip pockets in your face ever go away? When I look in the mirror it's clear that I have formed some kangaroo pouches from packing lippers for 15 years. I've only been quit 28 days, and I'm curious if any of you vets know anything about this. Thanks.
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So I quit three days ago, find this site, and think, "cool, I'll check it out"
Someone says to head over to May 2017 for support and.....
Are you kidding me?
A bunch of back and forth sniveling about you did this, I did that...
Bummer. Coulda used some help.
Dive into the fray and get involved. What youa re seeing is "brotherhood and accountability" in action. The reality is we're addicts, and the only way we can beat this today is through calling out addict-speak and addict-behavior.
Join us and you will understand. Why not try it? You'll end up with more support than you could possibly imagine.
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So I quit three days ago, find this site, and think, "cool, I'll check it out"
Someone says to head over to May 2017 for support and.....
Are you kidding me?
A bunch of back and forth sniveling about you did this, I did that...
Bummer. Coulda used some help.
Dive into the fray and get involved. What youa re seeing is "brotherhood and accountability" in action. The reality is we're addicts, and the only way we can beat this today is through calling out addict-speak and addict-behavior.
Join us and you will understand. Why not try it? You'll end up with more support than you could possibly imagine.
If you take one peak and leave you're missing out.
Stick around. It may not look like it yet, but this place can be exactly what you're looking for if you let it.
Chewie
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So I quit three days ago, find this site, and think, "cool, I'll check it out"
Someone says to head over to May 2017 for support and.....
Are you kidding me?
A bunch of back and forth sniveling about you did this, I did that...
Bummer. Coulda used some help.
Leonidas...every young group goes through some drama in the early going. Every single one. But I will tell you this, I don't know if I would be quit without my brothers in the October 2016 Dumpster Fire. You have nothing to lose but a horrible, damaging addiction. You have everything to gain, including a band of brothers who will support you every step of the way.
If you want the best possible chance of quitting, have a little faith, jump in and post roll.
FLLipOut
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So I quit three days ago, find this site, and think, "cool, I'll check it out"
Someone says to head over to May 2017 for support and.....
Are you kidding me?
A bunch of back and forth sniveling about you did this, I did that...
Bummer. Coulda used some help.
Leonidas...every young group goes through some drama in the early going. Every single one. But I will tell you this, I don't know if I would be quit without my brothers in the October 2016 Dumpster Fire. You have nothing to lose but a horrible, damaging addiction. You have everything to gain, including a band of brothers who will support you every step of the way.
If you want the best possible chance of quitting, have a little faith, jump in and post roll.
FLLipOut
The advice doesn't get any better than this ^^^. At this point you'll have to take our collective word for it, but you won't regret it. Like Frazz said earlier, if you think you aren't just like everyone else here at the core, you're wrong. You're an addict. Frazz is an addict. FLLip is an addict. I most certainly am an addict. This place is stronger than your addict mind, but you have to buy all the way in for it to work.
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Thanks guys (And gals), for taking the time to respond.
Much appreciated. Wandering the halls here, it's obvious there's good people here.
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Hey oldrow. Welcome to KTC. See you lurking down there. Tell us your story and let's get to quitting together!
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Hey oldrow. Welcome to KTC. See you lurking down there. Tell us your story and let's get to quitting together!
Here's mine to make it easier for you. Mine is probably just like 10,000 other member here. Chewed for 20+ years on and off mostly on. Convinced I was not annaddict because in "only" chewed 1 can a week...
Didn't matter. Was an addict. Stopped a few times lasted years even. Then I always found my way back. I never actually quit until 8-17-15. When I found this nuthouse.
Cruise this site. Read up like you are doing. No pressure. Whe. Your ready let's do this!
Jb
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As if this shit wasn't bad enough already...
U.S Smokeless Tobacco Company recalls products after sharp metal objects discovered.
http://www.wsmv.com/story/34399596/us-s ... discovered (http://www.wsmv.com/story/34399596/us-smokeless-tobacco-company-recalls-products-after-sharp-metal-objects-discovered)
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As if this shit wasn't bad enough already...
U.S Smokeless Tobacco Company recalls products after sharp metal objects discovered.
http://www.wsmv.com/story/34399596/us-s ... discovered (http://www.wsmv.com/story/34399596/us-smokeless-tobacco-company-recalls-products-after-sharp-metal-objects-discovered)
Jeez.. ... I remembered sometimes when I help the can and the light hit it just right i could see sparkles... but nothing like this. My mouth loves my again after hating me for almost 30 years
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Yea I'd like some mouth lacerations with my cancer please
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It's been over 3 days now since I quit. The fog mostly went away today. I've been hitting the gym, eating alot and pounding water, lol. I don't plan on ever going back to dip. The last time I "quit" was in 2010. But I only quit because I was forced to during marine corps boot camp. I know this is a nicotine free thing, but just a general question.. would using a nicotine gum make the fog come back? My roommate has some of the gum he offered me and I said no.. but thinking about having nicotine without the dip seems kind of nice lol. Would it fuck everything up?
Yes it would. Don't exchange one form of nicotine for another. You are addicted to nicotine (as am I and everyone else here) and to break that addiction you must quit using it, cold turkey. Using nicotine gum instead of dip is like an alcoholic using beer to get off liquor. Don't do it.
I have to politely disagree with that analogy. In the case of an alcoholic, the alcohol is what is causing the harm. In the case of a chewing addict, the nicotine is not causing the harm in iteself, the tobacco is. Remove the tobacco and the harm is reduced by 90% or more. I'm fully aware this is nicotine-free forum and that any form of nicotine use is not tolerated and I respect that. However, I think there is opportunity for an open and honest discussion about nicotine in itself, removed completely from the tobacco leaf as a delivery method, and how the use of particular tobacco free nicotine alternatives can contribute to the process of quitting tobacco use. I'll likely be banned from the site for expressing this view, but I think it's a valid discussion.
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It's been over 3 days now since I quit. The fog mostly went away today. I've been hitting the gym, eating alot and pounding water, lol. I don't plan on ever going back to dip. The last time I "quit" was in 2010. But I only quit because I was forced to during marine corps boot camp. I know this is a nicotine free thing, but just a general question.. would using a nicotine gum make the fog come back? My roommate has some of the gum he offered me and I said no.. but thinking about having nicotine without the dip seems kind of nice lol. Would it fuck everything up?
Yes it would. Don't exchange one form of nicotine for another. You are addicted to nicotine (as am I and everyone else here) and to break that addiction you must quit using it, cold turkey. Using nicotine gum instead of dip is like an alcoholic using beer to get off liquor. Don't do it.
I have to politely disagree with that analogy. In the case of an alcoholic, the alcohol is what is causing the harm. In the case of a chewing addict, the nicotine is not causing the harm in iteself, the tobacco is. Remove the tobacco and the harm is reduced by 90% or more. I'm fully aware this is nicotine-free forum and that any form of nicotine use is not tolerated and I respect that. However, I think there is opportunity for an open and honest discussion about nicotine in itself, removed completely from the tobacco leaf as a delivery method, and how the use of particular tobacco free nicotine alternatives can contribute to the process of quitting tobacco use. I'll likely be banned from the site for expressing this view, but I think it's a valid discussion.
Phole, do you agree nicotine is addictive? And if you are a recovering addict and trying to quit this addiction why would you let that door open?
For me to even crack that door would is a risk that I am not willing to take to going back stuffing my face with Cope.
Phole; why are you here? to try to make yourself feel better?
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It's been over 3 days now since I quit. The fog mostly went away today. I've been hitting the gym, eating alot and pounding water, lol. I don't plan on ever going back to dip. The last time I "quit" was in 2010. But I only quit because I was forced to during marine corps boot camp. I know this is a nicotine free thing, but just a general question.. would using a nicotine gum make the fog come back? My roommate has some of the gum he offered me and I said no.. but thinking about having nicotine without the dip seems kind of nice lol. Would it fuck everything up?
Yes it would. Don't exchange one form of nicotine for another. You are addicted to nicotine (as am I and everyone else here) and to break that addiction you must quit using it, cold turkey. Using nicotine gum instead of dip is like an alcoholic using beer to get off liquor. Don't do it.
I have to politely disagree with that analogy. In the case of an alcoholic, the alcohol is what is causing the harm. In the case of a chewing addict, the nicotine is not causing the harm in iteself, the tobacco is. Remove the tobacco and the harm is reduced by 90% or more. I'm fully aware this is nicotine-free forum and that any form of nicotine use is not tolerated and I respect that. However, I think there is opportunity for an open and honest discussion about nicotine in itself, removed completely from the tobacco leaf as a delivery method, and how the use of particular tobacco free nicotine alternatives can contribute to the process of quitting tobacco use. I'll likely be banned from the site for expressing this view, but I think it's a valid discussion.
Phole, do you agree nicotine is addictive? And if you are a recovering addict and trying to quit this addiction why would you let that door open?
For me to even crack that door would is a risk that I am not willing to take to going back stuffing my face with Cope.
Phole; why are you here? to try to make yourself feel better?
So let me get this straight.
The actual nicotine, the thing that is addictive, is not the issue. It is the delivery method.
Did I get that right?
So would you suggest that an alcoholic who only drinks beer can switch to wine and be ok? Or whiskey? Because that's really just a delivery method as well.
Look, the addictive substance is what we are fighting against. If you nicotine from gum or lozenges, you are merely delaying the inevitable withdrawals that are a result of nicotine leaving your system...not tobacco.
There is no room on the board for NRT or vaping or anything else that provides nicotine in your system. It is not a valid discussion because you are simply suggesting that nicotine is not the issue. It is what we fight against.
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It's been over 3 days now since I quit. The fog mostly went away today. I've been hitting the gym, eating alot and pounding water, lol. I don't plan on ever going back to dip. The last time I "quit" was in 2010. But I only quit because I was forced to during marine corps boot camp. I know this is a nicotine free thing, but just a general question.. would using a nicotine gum make the fog come back? My roommate has some of the gum he offered me and I said no.. but thinking about having nicotine without the dip seems kind of nice lol. Would it fuck everything up?
Yes it would. Don't exchange one form of nicotine for another. You are addicted to nicotine (as am I and everyone else here) and to break that addiction you must quit using it, cold turkey. Using nicotine gum instead of dip is like an alcoholic using beer to get off liquor. Don't do it.
I have to politely disagree with that analogy. In the case of an alcoholic, the alcohol is what is causing the harm. In the case of a chewing addict, the nicotine is not causing the harm in iteself, the tobacco is. Remove the tobacco and the harm is reduced by 90% or more. I'm fully aware this is nicotine-free forum and that any form of nicotine use is not tolerated and I respect that. However, I think there is opportunity for an open and honest discussion about nicotine in itself, removed completely from the tobacco leaf as a delivery method, and how the use of particular tobacco free nicotine alternatives can contribute to the process of quitting tobacco use. I'll likely be banned from the site for expressing this view, but I think it's a valid discussion.
Phole, do you agree nicotine is addictive? And if you are a recovering addict and trying to quit this addiction why would you let that door open?
For me to even crack that door would is a risk that I am not willing to take to going back stuffing my face with Cope.
Phole; why are you here? to try to make yourself feel better?
Phole....that's cute in a junior high kind of way. So, to answer your questions:
Phole, do you agree nicotine is addictive? Yes I do. Incredibly so. Especially when nicotine is delivered with tobacco as the delivery mechanism.
And if you are a recovering addict and trying to quit this addiction why would you let that door open? Well, nicotine is not the issue. It's the delivery system...tobacco. That's the real culprit in this mess we are all in. Remove the tobacco and nicotine is as harmful as caffeine. I'm advocating we look at this from a harm reduction viewpoint. It's so black and white....tobacco and nicotine is evil and will kill us all. Well, there are shades of grey here that the mainstream view isn't recognizing. Nicotine isn't the evil, tobacco is. Nicotine on it's own doesn't cause cancer. Yes, it may increase blood pressure and increase heart rate, but so does Red Bull and so does your morning cup of coffee. What if we were able to enjoy nicotine without tobacco? Increased alertness, motor skills, memory retention...without the side effects of tobacco? This is new thinking and new science that a number of doctors are beginning to advocate. I understand it's not mainstream belief of tobacco is bad, nicotine is bad, you MUST quit it all...but it's worth just thinking about. This site may not be the forum for this thinking and I get that.
For me to even crack that door would is a risk that I am not willing to take to going back stuffing my face with Cope. There are many alternatives for you to consider if you are about to cave that are so less harmful than a dip of cope.
Phole; why are you here? to try to make yourself feel better? Phole....again, you're funny. No, I'm not trying to make myself feel better. I'd like to participate in this community on my tobacco free terms and not have to subscribe to what I feel is an outdated model of nicotine free terms dictated by this site. Again, the black and white model in my opinion is outdated and not sustainable by a majority of tobacco users. I think if the conversation were to be tobacco free, with the ability to use tobacco free alternatives this would create a more diverse and broad community of those interested in harm reduction as it relates to nictotine.
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It's been over 3 days now since I quit. The fog mostly went away today. I've been hitting the gym, eating alot and pounding water, lol. I don't plan on ever going back to dip. The last time I "quit" was in 2010. But I only quit because I was forced to during marine corps boot camp. I know this is a nicotine free thing, but just a general question.. would using a nicotine gum make the fog come back? My roommate has some of the gum he offered me and I said no.. but thinking about having nicotine without the dip seems kind of nice lol. Would it fuck everything up?
Yes it would. Don't exchange one form of nicotine for another. You are addicted to nicotine (as am I and everyone else here) and to break that addiction you must quit using it, cold turkey. Using nicotine gum instead of dip is like an alcoholic using beer to get off liquor. Don't do it.
I have to politely disagree with that analogy. In the case of an alcoholic, the alcohol is what is causing the harm. In the case of a chewing addict, the nicotine is not causing the harm in iteself, the tobacco is. Remove the tobacco and the harm is reduced by 90% or more. I'm fully aware this is nicotine-free forum and that any form of nicotine use is not tolerated and I respect that. However, I think there is opportunity for an open and honest discussion about nicotine in itself, removed completely from the tobacco leaf as a delivery method, and how the use of particular tobacco free nicotine alternatives can contribute to the process of quitting tobacco use. I'll likely be banned from the site for expressing this view, but I think it's a valid discussion.
Phole, do you agree nicotine is addictive? And if you are a recovering addict and trying to quit this addiction why would you let that door open?
For me to even crack that door would is a risk that I am not willing to take to going back stuffing my face with Cope.
Phole; why are you here? to try to make yourself feel better?
So let me get this straight.
The actual nicotine, the thing that is addictive, is not the issue. It is the delivery method.
Did I get that right?
So would you suggest that an alcoholic who only drinks beer can switch to wine and be ok? Or whiskey? Because that's really just a delivery method as well.
Look, the addictive substance is what we are fighting against. If you nicotine from gum or lozenges, you are merely delaying the inevitable withdrawals that are a result of nicotine leaving your system...not tobacco.
There is no room on the board for NRT or vaping or anything else that provides nicotine in your system. It is not a valid discussion because you are simply suggesting that nicotine is not the issue. It is what we fight against.
The actual nicotine, the thing that is addictive, is not the issue. It is the delivery method. Did I get that right? Nicotine is addictive, yes. The delivery system, tobacco, is what kills you.
So would you suggest that an alcoholic who only drinks beer can switch to wine and be ok? Or whiskey? Because that's really just a delivery method as well. No, the alcohol in your analogy is the tobacco. I'm advocating removing the tobacco (the alcohol in your analogy) from the nicotine. Nicotine doesn't kill you. Tobacco does.
Look, the addictive substance is what we are fighting against. If you nicotine from gum or lozenges, you are merely delaying the inevitable withdrawals that are a result of nicotine leaving your system...not tobacco. But it's the tobacco that you are trying to rid yourself of. What if you could have nicotine without tobacco and suffer no harmful, long-term effects? We as a society are so against smoking and tobacco use that nicotine is getting a bad rap. It actually has some benefits like caffeine does if separated from tobacco. And, and I realize I'm going out on a limb here, but the use of nicotine in the absence of tobacco alkaloids has a much different response on the brain that when nicotine is paired with tobacco. This is really new science and doesn't have a lot of based research, but it's slowly happening.
There is no room on the board for NRT or vaping or anything else that provides nicotine in your system. It is not a valid discussion because you are simply suggesting that nicotine is not the issue. It is what we fight against. I know it is, thus why I am posing a counterpoint viewpoint.
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It's been over 3 days now since I quit. The fog mostly went away today. I've been hitting the gym, eating alot and pounding water, lol. I don't plan on ever going back to dip. The last time I "quit" was in 2010. But I only quit because I was forced to during marine corps boot camp. I know this is a nicotine free thing, but just a general question.. would using a nicotine gum make the fog come back? My roommate has some of the gum he offered me and I said no.. but thinking about having nicotine without the dip seems kind of nice lol. Would it fuck everything up?
Yes it would. Don't exchange one form of nicotine for another. You are addicted to nicotine (as am I and everyone else here) and to break that addiction you must quit using it, cold turkey. Using nicotine gum instead of dip is like an alcoholic using beer to get off liquor. Don't do it.
I have to politely disagree with that analogy. In the case of an alcoholic, the alcohol is what is causing the harm. In the case of a chewing addict, the nicotine is not causing the harm in iteself, the tobacco is. Remove the tobacco and the harm is reduced by 90% or more. I'm fully aware this is nicotine-free forum and that any form of nicotine use is not tolerated and I respect that. However, I think there is opportunity for an open and honest discussion about nicotine in itself, removed completely from the tobacco leaf as a delivery method, and how the use of particular tobacco free nicotine alternatives can contribute to the process of quitting tobacco use. I'll likely be banned from the site for expressing this view, but I think it's a valid discussion.
Phole, do you agree nicotine is addictive? And if you are a recovering addict and trying to quit this addiction why would you let that door open?
For me to even crack that door would is a risk that I am not willing to take to going back stuffing my face with Cope.
Phole; why are you here? to try to make yourself feel better?
So let me get this straight.
The actual nicotine, the thing that is addictive, is not the issue. It is the delivery method.
Did I get that right?
So would you suggest that an alcoholic who only drinks beer can switch to wine and be ok? Or whiskey? Because that's really just a delivery method as well.
Look, the addictive substance is what we are fighting against. If you nicotine from gum or lozenges, you are merely delaying the inevitable withdrawals that are a result of nicotine leaving your system...not tobacco.
There is no room on the board for NRT or vaping or anything else that provides nicotine in your system. It is not a valid discussion because you are simply suggesting that nicotine is not the issue. It is what we fight against.
The actual nicotine, the thing that is addictive, is not the issue. It is the delivery method. Did I get that right? Nicotine is addictive, yes. The delivery system, tobacco, is what kills you.
So would you suggest that an alcoholic who only drinks beer can switch to wine and be ok? Or whiskey? Because that's really just a delivery method as well. No, the alcohol in your analogy is the tobacco. I'm advocating removing the tobacco (the alcohol in your analogy) from the nicotine. Nicotine doesn't kill you. Tobacco does.
Look, the addictive substance is what we are fighting against. If you nicotine from gum or lozenges, you are merely delaying the inevitable withdrawals that are a result of nicotine leaving your system...not tobacco. But it's the tobacco that you are trying to rid yourself of. What if you could have nicotine without tobacco and suffer no harmful, long-term effects? We as a society are so against smoking and tobacco use that nicotine is getting a bad rap. It actually has some benefits like caffeine does if separated from tobacco. And, and I realize I'm going out on a limb here, but the use of nicotine in the absence of tobacco alkaloids has a much different response on the brain that when nicotine is paired with tobacco. This is really new science and doesn't have a lot of based research, but it's slowly happening.
There is no room on the board for NRT or vaping or anything else that provides nicotine in your system. It is not a valid discussion because you are simply suggesting that nicotine is not the issue. It is what we fight against. I know it is, thus why I am posing a counterpoint viewpoint.
This isn't the place for you Pot. KTC = no nicotine. At all. In any form. Ever. It's ok that you don't agree with it, it's not for everybody. Nicotine CAN kill you regardless of the delivery method. Do you really get something out of vaping, or the patch, or the anal suppositories, or is that your addict mind telling you whatever it can to keep you addicted?
I haven't had nicotine in 576 days and I am in control of my addiction. Call me outdated, but call me quit.
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It's been over 3 days now since I quit. The fog mostly went away today. I've been hitting the gym, eating alot and pounding water, lol. I don't plan on ever going back to dip. The last time I "quit" was in 2010. But I only quit because I was forced to during marine corps boot camp. I know this is a nicotine free thing, but just a general question.. would using a nicotine gum make the fog come back? My roommate has some of the gum he offered me and I said no.. but thinking about having nicotine without the dip seems kind of nice lol. Would it fuck everything up?
Yes it would. Don't exchange one form of nicotine for another. You are addicted to nicotine (as am I and everyone else here) and to break that addiction you must quit using it, cold turkey. Using nicotine gum instead of dip is like an alcoholic using beer to get off liquor. Don't do it.
I have to politely disagree with that analogy. In the case of an alcoholic, the alcohol is what is causing the harm. In the case of a chewing addict, the nicotine is not causing the harm in iteself, the tobacco is. Remove the tobacco and the harm is reduced by 90% or more. I'm fully aware this is nicotine-free forum and that any form of nicotine use is not tolerated and I respect that. However, I think there is opportunity for an open and honest discussion about nicotine in itself, removed completely from the tobacco leaf as a delivery method, and how the use of particular tobacco free nicotine alternatives can contribute to the process of quitting tobacco use. I'll likely be banned from the site for expressing this view, but I think it's a valid discussion.
Phole, do you agree nicotine is addictive? And if you are a recovering addict and trying to quit this addiction why would you let that door open?
For me to even crack that door would is a risk that I am not willing to take to going back stuffing my face with Cope.
Phole; why are you here? to try to make yourself feel better?
So let me get this straight.
The actual nicotine, the thing that is addictive, is not the issue. It is the delivery method.
Did I get that right?
So would you suggest that an alcoholic who only drinks beer can switch to wine and be ok? Or whiskey? Because that's really just a delivery method as well.
Look, the addictive substance is what we are fighting against. If you nicotine from gum or lozenges, you are merely delaying the inevitable withdrawals that are a result of nicotine leaving your system...not tobacco.
There is no room on the board for NRT or vaping or anything else that provides nicotine in your system. It is not a valid discussion because you are simply suggesting that nicotine is not the issue. It is what we fight against.
The actual nicotine, the thing that is addictive, is not the issue. It is the delivery method. Did I get that right? Nicotine is addictive, yes. The delivery system, tobacco, is what kills you.
So would you suggest that an alcoholic who only drinks beer can switch to wine and be ok? Or whiskey? Because that's really just a delivery method as well. No, the alcohol in your analogy is the tobacco. I'm advocating removing the tobacco (the alcohol in your analogy) from the nicotine. Nicotine doesn't kill you. Tobacco does.
Look, the addictive substance is what we are fighting against. If you nicotine from gum or lozenges, you are merely delaying the inevitable withdrawals that are a result of nicotine leaving your system...not tobacco. But it's the tobacco that you are trying to rid yourself of. What if you could have nicotine without tobacco and suffer no harmful, long-term effects? We as a society are so against smoking and tobacco use that nicotine is getting a bad rap. It actually has some benefits like caffeine does if separated from tobacco. And, and I realize I'm going out on a limb here, but the use of nicotine in the absence of tobacco alkaloids has a much different response on the brain that when nicotine is paired with tobacco. This is really new science and doesn't have a lot of based research, but it's slowly happening.
There is no room on the board for NRT or vaping or anything else that provides nicotine in your system. It is not a valid discussion because you are simply suggesting that nicotine is not the issue. It is what we fight against. I know it is, thus why I am posing a counterpoint viewpoint.
Pothole you just don't get it, we are here to quit tobacco, all the ingredients of tobacco, including nicotine. You can't break an addiction by continuing to use the addictive substance. Many here started dipping to stop smoking. How did that work? We were still getting the nicotine but traded one set of risks (lung cancer, emphazima, etc.) for another set of risks (oral cancer, tooth loss, gum disease, etc.) the nicotine is what enslaved us to tobacco. The nicotine is what has drawn us back each time we have tried to quit and failed. You can separate the nicotine from the tobacco in a lab or a production facility, but you can't separate them in the mind, and that is where the addiction lies. Break the addiction, reduce the risk, and gain freedom. That is why we are nicotine-free.
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It's been over 3 days now since I quit. The fog mostly went away today. I've been hitting the gym, eating alot and pounding water, lol. I don't plan on ever going back to dip. The last time I "quit" was in 2010. But I only quit because I was forced to during marine corps boot camp. I know this is a nicotine free thing, but just a general question.. would using a nicotine gum make the fog come back? My roommate has some of the gum he offered me and I said no.. but thinking about having nicotine without the dip seems kind of nice lol. Would it fuck everything up?
Yes it would. Don't exchange one form of nicotine for another. You are addicted to nicotine (as am I and everyone else here) and to break that addiction you must quit using it, cold turkey. Using nicotine gum instead of dip is like an alcoholic using beer to get off liquor. Don't do it.
I have to politely disagree with that analogy. In the case of an alcoholic, the alcohol is what is causing the harm. In the case of a chewing addict, the nicotine is not causing the harm in iteself, the tobacco is. Remove the tobacco and the harm is reduced by 90% or more. I'm fully aware this is nicotine-free forum and that any form of nicotine use is not tolerated and I respect that. However, I think there is opportunity for an open and honest discussion about nicotine in itself, removed completely from the tobacco leaf as a delivery method, and how the use of particular tobacco free nicotine alternatives can contribute to the process of quitting tobacco use. I'll likely be banned from the site for expressing this view, but I think it's a valid discussion.
Phole, do you agree nicotine is addictive? And if you are a recovering addict and trying to quit this addiction why would you let that door open?
For me to even crack that door would is a risk that I am not willing to take to going back stuffing my face with Cope.
Phole; why are you here? to try to make yourself feel better?
So let me get this straight.
The actual nicotine, the thing that is addictive, is not the issue. It is the delivery method.
Did I get that right?
So would you suggest that an alcoholic who only drinks beer can switch to wine and be ok? Or whiskey? Because that's really just a delivery method as well.
Look, the addictive substance is what we are fighting against. If you nicotine from gum or lozenges, you are merely delaying the inevitable withdrawals that are a result of nicotine leaving your system...not tobacco.
There is no room on the board for NRT or vaping or anything else that provides nicotine in your system. It is not a valid discussion because you are simply suggesting that nicotine is not the issue. It is what we fight against.
The actual nicotine, the thing that is addictive, is not the issue. It is the delivery method. Did I get that right? Nicotine is addictive, yes. The delivery system, tobacco, is what kills you.
So would you suggest that an alcoholic who only drinks beer can switch to wine and be ok? Or whiskey? Because that's really just a delivery method as well. No, the alcohol in your analogy is the tobacco. I'm advocating removing the tobacco (the alcohol in your analogy) from the nicotine. Nicotine doesn't kill you. Tobacco does.
Look, the addictive substance is what we are fighting against. If you nicotine from gum or lozenges, you are merely delaying the inevitable withdrawals that are a result of nicotine leaving your system...not tobacco. But it's the tobacco that you are trying to rid yourself of. What if you could have nicotine without tobacco and suffer no harmful, long-term effects? We as a society are so against smoking and tobacco use that nicotine is getting a bad rap. It actually has some benefits like caffeine does if separated from tobacco. And, and I realize I'm going out on a limb here, but the use of nicotine in the absence of tobacco alkaloids has a much different response on the brain that when nicotine is paired with tobacco. This is really new science and doesn't have a lot of based research, but it's slowly happening.
There is no room on the board for NRT or vaping or anything else that provides nicotine in your system. It is not a valid discussion because you are simply suggesting that nicotine is not the issue. It is what we fight against. I know it is, thus why I am posing a counterpoint viewpoint.
Pothole you just don't get it, we are here to quit tobacco, all the ingredients of tobacco, including nicotine. You can't break an addiction by continuing to use the addictive substance. Many here started dipping to stop smoking. How did that work? We were still getting the nicotine but traded one set of risks (lung cancer, emphazima, etc.) for another set of risks (oral cancer, tooth loss, gum disease, etc.) the nicotine is what enslaved us to tobacco. The nicotine is what has drawn us back each time we have tried to quit and failed. You can separate the nicotine from the tobacco in a lab or a production facility, but you can't separate them in the mind, and that is where the addiction lies. Break the addiction, reduce the risk, and gain freedom. That is why we are nicotine-free.
I understand and agree with what you are saying pothole. I also think you are correct that this site is probably not the place to have the discussion. It really just comes down to whatever it takes to Kill The Can. At least for me it does. When I post everyday that I will not use nicotine today, we say that with a wink that I may very well eat a tomato, have a potato with that steak or drink a glass of tea.
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It's been over 3 days now since I quit. The fog mostly went away today. I've been hitting the gym, eating alot and pounding water, lol. I don't plan on ever going back to dip. The last time I "quit" was in 2010. But I only quit because I was forced to during marine corps boot camp. I know this is a nicotine free thing, but just a general question.. would using a nicotine gum make the fog come back? My roommate has some of the gum he offered me and I said no.. but thinking about having nicotine without the dip seems kind of nice lol. Would it fuck everything up?
Yes it would. Don't exchange one form of nicotine for another. You are addicted to nicotine (as am I and everyone else here) and to break that addiction you must quit using it, cold turkey. Using nicotine gum instead of dip is like an alcoholic using beer to get off liquor. Don't do it.
I have to politely disagree with that analogy. In the case of an alcoholic, the alcohol is what is causing the harm. In the case of a chewing addict, the nicotine is not causing the harm in iteself, the tobacco is. Remove the tobacco and the harm is reduced by 90% or more. I'm fully aware this is nicotine-free forum and that any form of nicotine use is not tolerated and I respect that. However, I think there is opportunity for an open and honest discussion about nicotine in itself, removed completely from the tobacco leaf as a delivery method, and how the use of particular tobacco free nicotine alternatives can contribute to the process of quitting tobacco use. I'll likely be banned from the site for expressing this view, but I think it's a valid discussion.
Phole, do you agree nicotine is addictive? And if you are a recovering addict and trying to quit this addiction why would you let that door open?
For me to even crack that door would is a risk that I am not willing to take to going back stuffing my face with Cope.
Phole; why are you here? to try to make yourself feel better?
So let me get this straight.
The actual nicotine, the thing that is addictive, is not the issue. It is the delivery method.
Did I get that right?
So would you suggest that an alcoholic who only drinks beer can switch to wine and be ok? Or whiskey? Because that's really just a delivery method as well.
Look, the addictive substance is what we are fighting against. If you nicotine from gum or lozenges, you are merely delaying the inevitable withdrawals that are a result of nicotine leaving your system...not tobacco.
There is no room on the board for NRT or vaping or anything else that provides nicotine in your system. It is not a valid discussion because you are simply suggesting that nicotine is not the issue. It is what we fight against.
The actual nicotine, the thing that is addictive, is not the issue. It is the delivery method. Did I get that right? Nicotine is addictive, yes. The delivery system, tobacco, is what kills you.
So would you suggest that an alcoholic who only drinks beer can switch to wine and be ok? Or whiskey? Because that's really just a delivery method as well. No, the alcohol in your analogy is the tobacco. I'm advocating removing the tobacco (the alcohol in your analogy) from the nicotine. Nicotine doesn't kill you. Tobacco does.
Look, the addictive substance is what we are fighting against. If you nicotine from gum or lozenges, you are merely delaying the inevitable withdrawals that are a result of nicotine leaving your system...not tobacco. But it's the tobacco that you are trying to rid yourself of. What if you could have nicotine without tobacco and suffer no harmful, long-term effects? We as a society are so against smoking and tobacco use that nicotine is getting a bad rap. It actually has some benefits like caffeine does if separated from tobacco. And, and I realize I'm going out on a limb here, but the use of nicotine in the absence of tobacco alkaloids has a much different response on the brain that when nicotine is paired with tobacco. This is really new science and doesn't have a lot of based research, but it's slowly happening.
There is no room on the board for NRT or vaping or anything else that provides nicotine in your system. It is not a valid discussion because you are simply suggesting that nicotine is not the issue. It is what we fight against. I know it is, thus why I am posing a counterpoint viewpoint.
This isn't the place for you Pot. KTC = no nicotine. At all. In any form. Ever. It's ok that you don't agree with it, it's not for everybody. Nicotine CAN kill you regardless of the delivery method. Do you really get something out of vaping, or the patch, or the anal suppositories, or is that your addict mind telling you whatever it can to keep you addicted?
I haven't had nicotine in 576 days and I am in control of my addiction. Call me outdated, but call me quit.
Mucho respect for the 576 days, that's beyond awesome. I'm working my way towards nicotine free and and confident I'll be able to see 576 days of no nic bitch as well. My quit date and first roll post here will be a bit later as I work my way down on the nic consumption. I quit chewing tobacco last Tuesday, 2/1 and have since used those ZYN NT 6mg pouches (no tobacco, food grade nicotine). Normally I would have consumed 3 cans of Cope by now which is about 450 mg of nic (150 mg per can). Using this ZYN, I've had 2 cans since Tuesday and have consumed 180 mg of nic total. Figure I'll roll with the 6mg strength for a couple weeks, drop down to the 3mg for a couple weeks and be ready to post up on March 1st. I have to say, it sure has been nice not having that crap in my mouth this week. Thanks for the discussion and I'll be back in a month as I slowly detox in a way that works for me. Thank you.
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It's been over 3 days now since I quit. The fog mostly went away today. I've been hitting the gym, eating alot and pounding water, lol. I don't plan on ever going back to dip. The last time I "quit" was in 2010. But I only quit because I was forced to during marine corps boot camp. I know this is a nicotine free thing, but just a general question.. would using a nicotine gum make the fog come back? My roommate has some of the gum he offered me and I said no.. but thinking about having nicotine without the dip seems kind of nice lol. Would it fuck everything up?
Yes it would. Don't exchange one form of nicotine for another. You are addicted to nicotine (as am I and everyone else here) and to break that addiction you must quit using it, cold turkey. Using nicotine gum instead of dip is like an alcoholic using beer to get off liquor. Don't do it.
I have to politely disagree with that analogy. In the case of an alcoholic, the alcohol is what is causing the harm. In the case of a chewing addict, the nicotine is not causing the harm in iteself, the tobacco is. Remove the tobacco and the harm is reduced by 90% or more. I'm fully aware this is nicotine-free forum and that any form of nicotine use is not tolerated and I respect that. However, I think there is opportunity for an open and honest discussion about nicotine in itself, removed completely from the tobacco leaf as a delivery method, and how the use of particular tobacco free nicotine alternatives can contribute to the process of quitting tobacco use. I'll likely be banned from the site for expressing this view, but I think it's a valid discussion.
Phole, do you agree nicotine is addictive? And if you are a recovering addict and trying to quit this addiction why would you let that door open?
For me to even crack that door would is a risk that I am not willing to take to going back stuffing my face with Cope.
Phole; why are you here? to try to make yourself feel better?
So let me get this straight.
The actual nicotine, the thing that is addictive, is not the issue. It is the delivery method.
Did I get that right?
So would you suggest that an alcoholic who only drinks beer can switch to wine and be ok? Or whiskey? Because that's really just a delivery method as well.
Look, the addictive substance is what we are fighting against. If you nicotine from gum or lozenges, you are merely delaying the inevitable withdrawals that are a result of nicotine leaving your system...not tobacco.
There is no room on the board for NRT or vaping or anything else that provides nicotine in your system. It is not a valid discussion because you are simply suggesting that nicotine is not the issue. It is what we fight against.
The actual nicotine, the thing that is addictive, is not the issue. It is the delivery method. Did I get that right? Nicotine is addictive, yes. The delivery system, tobacco, is what kills you.
So would you suggest that an alcoholic who only drinks beer can switch to wine and be ok? Or whiskey? Because that's really just a delivery method as well. No, the alcohol in your analogy is the tobacco. I'm advocating removing the tobacco (the alcohol in your analogy) from the nicotine. Nicotine doesn't kill you. Tobacco does.
Look, the addictive substance is what we are fighting against. If you nicotine from gum or lozenges, you are merely delaying the inevitable withdrawals that are a result of nicotine leaving your system...not tobacco. But it's the tobacco that you are trying to rid yourself of. What if you could have nicotine without tobacco and suffer no harmful, long-term effects? We as a society are so against smoking and tobacco use that nicotine is getting a bad rap. It actually has some benefits like caffeine does if separated from tobacco. And, and I realize I'm going out on a limb here, but the use of nicotine in the absence of tobacco alkaloids has a much different response on the brain that when nicotine is paired with tobacco. This is really new science and doesn't have a lot of based research, but it's slowly happening.
There is no room on the board for NRT or vaping or anything else that provides nicotine in your system. It is not a valid discussion because you are simply suggesting that nicotine is not the issue. It is what we fight against. I know it is, thus why I am posing a counterpoint viewpoint.
This isn't the place for you Pot. KTC = no nicotine. At all. In any form. Ever. It's ok that you don't agree with it, it's not for everybody. Nicotine CAN kill you regardless of the delivery method. Do you really get something out of vaping, or the patch, or the anal suppositories, or is that your addict mind telling you whatever it can to keep you addicted?
I haven't had nicotine in 576 days and I am in control of my addiction. Call me outdated, but call me quit.
Mucho respect for the 576 days, that's beyond awesome. I'm working my way towards nicotine free and and confident I'll be able to see 576 days of no nic bitch as well. My quit date and first roll post here will be a bit later as I work my way down on the nic consumption. I quit chewing tobacco last Tuesday, 2/1 and have since used those ZYN NT 6mg pouches (no tobacco, food grade nicotine). Normally I would have consumed 3 cans of Cope by now which is about 450 mg of nic (150 mg per can). Using this ZYN, I've had 2 cans since Tuesday and have consumed 180 mg of nic total. Figure I'll roll with the 6mg strength for a couple weeks, drop down to the 3mg for a couple weeks and be ready to post up on March 1st. I have to say, it sure has been nice not having that crap in my mouth this week. Thanks for the discussion and I'll be back in a month as I slowly detox in a way that works for me. Thank you.
Wish you luck.
Brother at 539 days I can say cold turkey is the only way to go. Dump all that hokey slow weeny nonsense and dive in. Post roll. You're just delaying the inevitable. Sack up and join this awesome quit machine
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It's been over 3 days now since I quit. The fog mostly went away today. I've been hitting the gym, eating alot and pounding water, lol. I don't plan on ever going back to dip. The last time I "quit" was in 2010. But I only quit because I was forced to during marine corps boot camp. I know this is a nicotine free thing, but just a general question.. would using a nicotine gum make the fog come back? My roommate has some of the gum he offered me and I said no.. but thinking about having nicotine without the dip seems kind of nice lol. Would it fuck everything up?
Yes it would. Don't exchange one form of nicotine for another. You are addicted to nicotine (as am I and everyone else here) and to break that addiction you must quit using it, cold turkey. Using nicotine gum instead of dip is like an alcoholic using beer to get off liquor. Don't do it.
I have to politely disagree with that analogy. In the case of an alcoholic, the alcohol is what is causing the harm. In the case of a chewing addict, the nicotine is not causing the harm in iteself, the tobacco is. Remove the tobacco and the harm is reduced by 90% or more. I'm fully aware this is nicotine-free forum and that any form of nicotine use is not tolerated and I respect that. However, I think there is opportunity for an open and honest discussion about nicotine in itself, removed completely from the tobacco leaf as a delivery method, and how the use of particular tobacco free nicotine alternatives can contribute to the process of quitting tobacco use. I'll likely be banned from the site for expressing this view, but I think it's a valid discussion.
Phole, do you agree nicotine is addictive? And if you are a recovering addict and trying to quit this addiction why would you let that door open?
For me to even crack that door would is a risk that I am not willing to take to going back stuffing my face with Cope.
Phole; why are you here? to try to make yourself feel better?
So let me get this straight.
The actual nicotine, the thing that is addictive, is not the issue. It is the delivery method.
Did I get that right?
So would you suggest that an alcoholic who only drinks beer can switch to wine and be ok? Or whiskey? Because that's really just a delivery method as well.
Look, the addictive substance is what we are fighting against. If you nicotine from gum or lozenges, you are merely delaying the inevitable withdrawals that are a result of nicotine leaving your system...not tobacco.
There is no room on the board for NRT or vaping or anything else that provides nicotine in your system. It is not a valid discussion because you are simply suggesting that nicotine is not the issue. It is what we fight against.
The actual nicotine, the thing that is addictive, is not the issue. It is the delivery method. Did I get that right? Nicotine is addictive, yes. The delivery system, tobacco, is what kills you.
So would you suggest that an alcoholic who only drinks beer can switch to wine and be ok? Or whiskey? Because that's really just a delivery method as well. No, the alcohol in your analogy is the tobacco. I'm advocating removing the tobacco (the alcohol in your analogy) from the nicotine. Nicotine doesn't kill you. Tobacco does.
Look, the addictive substance is what we are fighting against. If you nicotine from gum or lozenges, you are merely delaying the inevitable withdrawals that are a result of nicotine leaving your system...not tobacco. But it's the tobacco that you are trying to rid yourself of. What if you could have nicotine without tobacco and suffer no harmful, long-term effects? We as a society are so against smoking and tobacco use that nicotine is getting a bad rap. It actually has some benefits like caffeine does if separated from tobacco. And, and I realize I'm going out on a limb here, but the use of nicotine in the absence of tobacco alkaloids has a much different response on the brain that when nicotine is paired with tobacco. This is really new science and doesn't have a lot of based research, but it's slowly happening.
There is no room on the board for NRT or vaping or anything else that provides nicotine in your system. It is not a valid discussion because you are simply suggesting that nicotine is not the issue. It is what we fight against. I know it is, thus why I am posing a counterpoint viewpoint.
This isn't the place for you Pot. KTC = no nicotine. At all. In any form. Ever. It's ok that you don't agree with it, it's not for everybody. Nicotine CAN kill you regardless of the delivery method. Do you really get something out of vaping, or the patch, or the anal suppositories, or is that your addict mind telling you whatever it can to keep you addicted?
I haven't had nicotine in 576 days and I am in control of my addiction. Call me outdated, but call me quit.
Mucho respect for the 576 days, that's beyond awesome. I'm working my way towards nicotine free and and confident I'll be able to see 576 days of no nic bitch as well. My quit date and first roll post here will be a bit later as I work my way down on the nic consumption. I quit chewing tobacco last Tuesday, 2/1 and have since used those ZYN NT 6mg pouches (no tobacco, food grade nicotine). Normally I would have consumed 3 cans of Cope by now which is about 450 mg of nic (150 mg per can). Using this ZYN, I've had 2 cans since Tuesday and have consumed 180 mg of nic total. Figure I'll roll with the 6mg strength for a couple weeks, drop down to the 3mg for a couple weeks and be ready to post up on March 1st. I have to say, it sure has been nice not having that crap in my mouth this week. Thanks for the discussion and I'll be back in a month as I slowly detox in a way that works for me. Thank you.
Wish you luck.
Brother at 539 days I can say cold turkey is the only way to go. Dump all that hokey slow weeny nonsense and dive in. Post roll. You're just delaying the inevitable. Sack up and join this awesome quit machine
And let's watch to see if March 1 ever rolls in...because quite frankly, future Quit dates are never kept.
Look, we fight nicotine here, If that is not your cup of tea, then I suggest you find a place that allows vaping or lozenges or other NRT. You will never get nicotine, the ingredient that is keeping you a slave, out of your life until you Quit cold turkey. You are just prolonging your long road of suffering.
But whatever...you've got this figured out. This weekend we had a small gathering of guys who are committed to their Quits and to the Brotherhood we offer. They have 98 years of Quit combined. And they all did it cold turkey, and theya re all fighting nicotine, not just tobacco.
But hey, if you've got this, good luck.
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I've officially gone 24 hrs without chew for the first time in 7 years. I really feel like I'm going to kill something. But other than that, I'm doing good. Due to the Skoal recall, I was able to have a reason to quit.
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I've officially gone 24 hrs without chew for the first time in 7 years. I really feel like I'm going to kill something. But other than that, I'm doing good. Due to the Skoal recall, I was able to have a reason to quit.
I've been meaning to do this for quite some time, but the recall actually helped me pull the trigger. Walked in the gas station, there was no cope on the wall and my first thought was "Well, I guess I'm quitting today then".
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I'm a couple weeks in now, I have good days and bad days when it comes to cravings. Only thing that has helped me is exercise. Still have plenty of foggy brain and sleepless nights hopefully they will get better soon. Really glad I found this site!!
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Dude the sleepless nights is what really baffled me the most. The anxiety, the feeling of being lost and not knowing what to do, the homicidal thoughts (not literally but you get me), all of that I expected and went through. But for maybe 3 weeks I rarely slept through a night. I still don't really understand that part. With the internet I suppose there is nothing we can't find out but I haven't looked it up.
Thankfully that part was over in a few weeks though and back to normal.
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I don't think they really know yet why there is a connection between quitting nicotine and insomnia. But one thing I would caution on is that nicotine causes caffeine to deplete from your system twice as fast. So you may need to adjust your intake of caffeine now that you no longer have nicotine in your body. That could be adding to your sleep issues.
It won't last too long - hang in there!
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I think the "roll call" on this forum is pathetic. So I don't do it. I just like to say random shit.
Anyways, I'm 2.5 days without any source of nicotine. I miss throwing a dip in after a meal, but I don't want to stab people as much as I did yesterday. Other than that, shits going pretty good.
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I think the "roll call" on this forum is pathetic. So I don't do it. I just like to say random shit.
Anyways, I'm 2.5 days without any source of nicotine. I miss throwing a dip in after a meal, but I don't want to stab people as much as I did yesterday. Other than that, shits going pretty good.
What don't you like about posting roll? Or Roll Call in general?
EDIT: And do you think following our method might have helped you be Quit since 2014, when you first joined, vs. having to go through The Suck again? Were you using all 3 years you were gone form the site?
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I think the "roll call" on this forum is pathetic. So I don't do it. I just like to say random shit.
Anyways, I'm 2.5 days without any source of nicotine. I miss throwing a dip in after a meal, but I don't want to stab people as much as I did yesterday. Other than that, shits going pretty good.
What don't you like about posting roll? Or Roll Call in general?
EDIT: And do you think following our method might have helped you be Quit since 2014, when you first joined, vs. having to go through The Suck again? Were you using all 3 years you were gone form the site?
Hmm...
First, we're not for everyone. We get that. We don't try to be.
Second, can you give some more context around "pathetic"? We're always looking for ways to improve.
Congrats on your first few days of freedom. That's pretty outstanding.
Looking forward to your response... I've got to go post roll.
Chewie ~ Day 3,854
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Ok so this is most likely going to get me a reply like "be careful" and "don't get too cocky" which I will fully understand.
I was sitting here in my office this morning and although today is day 70 for me I cannot even imagine putting Copenhagen back in my mouth again. It's almost as if it never happened at this point. We all move along at different speeds/pace but for me after the first month I've been good.
Does it cross my mind occasionally? Sure it does but it goes away as quick as it comes. After 30 years of having a dip in my mouth every waking minute I never thought I could beat this. Man does it feel good and this site is amazing with great people on it. Tough love but necessary
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Ok so this is most likely going to get me a reply like "be careful" and "don't get too cocky" which I will fully understand.
I was sitting here in my office this morning and although today is day 70 for me I cannot even imagine putting Copenhagen back in my mouth again. It's almost as if it never happened at this point. We all move along at different speeds/pace but for me after the first month I've been good.
Does it cross my mind occasionally? Sure it does but it goes away as quick as it comes. After 30 years of having a dip in my mouth every waking minute I never thought I could beat this. Man does it feel good and this site is amazing with great people on it. Tough love but necessary
Be careful, don't get too cocky. I dropped Copenhagen several years ago, and for 4 years never considered going back. Then one day I decided to try just one dip. That's all it took and I was back dipping full time.
Don't ever think you have it beat. Don't ever think you are cured. Work every day to stay quit and you will. Slack up and it will sneak up on you when you least expect it, so always expect it.
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Ok so this is most likely going to get me a reply like "be careful" and "don't get too cocky" which I will fully understand.
I was sitting here in my office this morning and although today is day 70 for me I cannot even imagine putting Copenhagen back in my mouth again. It's almost as if it never happened at this point. We all move along at different speeds/pace but for me after the first month I've been good.
Does it cross my mind occasionally? Sure it does but it goes away as quick as it comes. After 30 years of having a dip in my mouth every waking minute I never thought I could beat this. Man does it feel good and this site is amazing with great people on it. Tough love but necessary
Be careful, don't get too cocky. I dropped Copenhagen several years ago, and for 4 years never considered going back. Then one day I decided to try just one dip. That's all it took and I was back dipping full time.
Don't ever think you have it beat. Don't ever think you are cured. Work every day to stay quit and you will. Slack up and it will sneak up on you when you least expect it, so always expect it.
Why after four years did you decide to have just one?
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Ok so this is most likely going to get me a reply like "be careful" and "don't get too cocky" which I will fully understand.
I was sitting here in my office this morning and although today is day 70 for me I cannot even imagine putting Copenhagen back in my mouth again. It's almost as if it never happened at this point. We all move along at different speeds/pace but for me after the first month I've been good.
Does it cross my mind occasionally? Sure it does but it goes away as quick as it comes. After 30 years of having a dip in my mouth every waking minute I never thought I could beat this. Man does it feel good and this site is amazing with great people on it. Tough love but necessary
Be careful, don't get too cocky. I dropped Copenhagen several years ago, and for 4 years never considered going back. Then one day I decided to try just one dip. That's all it took and I was back dipping full time.
Don't ever think you have it beat. Don't ever think you are cured. Work every day to stay quit and you will. Slack up and it will sneak up on you when you least expect it, so always expect it.
Why after four years did you decide to have just one?
its always lurking and you never know what may be a trigger. today I had what must be my first dunin donuts coffee in years and when i finished it I guess i zoned out staring at the cup cause in all these years i always used it as a spitter and i blanked about what to do with empty cup. As strange as it is and can be my wife threw it a away for me because sometimes our brains remember the most random things in the world that trigger back addictive thoughts as well as the happy and sad moments in our life.
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Anyone keep records of the success rate of this site? 20,000 plus members over 10 years.
Just curious about that and the percentage of folks who post after 100 days.
For me the posting roll has helped a lot but reading some of the other stuff almost causes triggers for craves, I'd rather just forget about the habit then discuss it all the time.
I had a solid 4 year quit and it crashed ten years ago in a moment of stupidity.
I'm searching for the best way for me to continue in another 25 days when I hit 100.
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Anyone keep records of the success rate of this site? 20,000 plus members over 10 years.
Just curious about that and the percentage of folks who post after 100 days.
For me the posting roll has helped a lot but reading some of the other stuff almost causes triggers for craves, I'd rather just forget about the habit then discuss it all the time.
I had a solid 4 year quit and it crashed ten years ago in a moment of stupidity.
I'm searching for the best way for me to continue in another 25 days when I hit 100.
I agree, all of this talking about not chewing feels an awful lot like a trigger to me too. You're farther along in your quit but you'll figure out what works for you. In my case, posting roll is enough... I'm doing it for me, not to impress the other asshats in my month. Find what works, take what you want, give what you can.
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Anyone keep records of the success rate of this site? 20,000 plus members over 10 years.
Just curious about that and the percentage of folks who post after 100 days.
For me the posting roll has helped a lot but reading some of the other stuff almost causes triggers for craves, I'd rather just forget about the habit then discuss it all the time.
I had a solid 4 year quit and it crashed ten years ago in a moment of stupidity.
I'm searching for the best way for me to continue in another 25 days when I hit 100.
I agree, all of this talking about not chewing feels an awful lot like a trigger to me too. You're farther along in your quit but you'll figure out what works for you. In my case, posting roll is enough... I'm doing it for me, not to impress the other asshats in my month. Find what works, take what you want, give what you can.
Making it to the next roll call, no matter the day count, is the only success that matters. Do people succeed after they stop posting roll? I would like to believe so, but unless your on roll, I dont know for sure.
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Anyone keep records of the success rate of this site? 20,000 plus members over 10 years.
Just curious about that and the percentage of folks who post after 100 days.
For me the posting roll has helped a lot but reading some of the other stuff almost causes triggers for craves, I'd rather just forget about the habit then discuss it all the time.
I had a solid 4 year quit and it crashed ten years ago in a moment of stupidity.
I'm searching for the best way for me to continue in another 25 days when I hit 100.
I agree, all of this talking about not chewing feels an awful lot like a trigger to me too. You're farther along in your quit but you'll figure out what works for you. In my case, posting roll is enough... I'm doing it for me, not to impress the other asshats in my month. Find what works, take what you want, give what you can.
Making it to the next roll call, no matter the day count, is the only success that matters. Do people succeed after they stop posting roll? I would like to believe so, but unless your on roll, I dont know for sure.
This may be relevant to this discussion:
I DonÂ’t Want To Forget My Addiction
http://blog.killthecan.org/2016/01/i-do ... addiction/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2016/01/i-dont-want-to-forget-my-addiction/)
As for the statistics... it's a difficult question, but I know we've looked into it. Let me see what I can dig up (or point you to someone who remembers).
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Anyone keep records of the success rate of this site? 20,000 plus members over 10 years.
Just curious about that and the percentage of folks who post after 100 days.
For me the posting roll has helped a lot but reading some of the other stuff almost causes triggers for craves, I'd rather just forget about the habit then discuss it all the time.
I had a solid 4 year quit and it crashed ten years ago in a moment of stupidity.
I'm searching for the best way for me to continue in another 25 days when I hit 100.
I agree, all of this talking about not chewing feels an awful lot like a trigger to me too. You're farther along in your quit but you'll figure out what works for you. In my case, posting roll is enough... I'm doing it for me, not to impress the other asshats in my month. Find what works, take what you want, give what you can.
Making it to the next roll call, no matter the day count, is the only success that matters. Do people succeed after they stop posting roll? I would like to believe so, but unless your on roll, I dont know for sure.
This may be relevant to this discussion:
I DonÂ’t Want To Forget My Addiction
http://blog.killthecan.org/2016/01/i-do ... addiction/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2016/01/i-dont-want-to-forget-my-addiction/)
As for the statistics... it's a difficult question, but I know we've looked into it. Let me see what I can dig up (or point you to someone who remembers).
I can tell you this much.
For those who post roll and keep their word, the success rate is 100%.
So, all you have to do is sign you name to roll, and keep your word. Are you a man of your word? Then you can make it to 100%.
2,234 days of posting roll, keeping my word, and freedom. See you tomorrow on roll.
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I hit 4 years yesterday. I never thought it would be possible. But posting roll every day was what did it. You can do it. I know because I did.
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Friends, My English is not good. So, please excuse me for this
Hi,
I am from India and I accidentally stepped into this site while searching for resources helpful in quitting tobacco/nicotine.
Friends, before asking for your help, let me introduce myself.
I am from India and at the age of 16 years I started taking tobacco and since 25 years this stuff has been my regular companion. I have got sick of this habit as I fear one day I would die of cancer. Whenever I feel some sensation in my teeth/mouth I feel i will die soon. I fear to consult a doctor, due to the aforesaid reasons.
I also had a disturbed upbringing/ alcoholic /abusive father, hence my childhood/adolescent stage was painful and due to this I also became an alcoholic. Now, I am going through divorce and my life has become a total hell. Throughout my life I have only felt pain and due to this I am unable to take a positive step.
I had tried numerous times to quit tobacco/alcohol but it would last only for 3-4 days. I always promise myself that I will not touch tobacco/nicotine but how i reach the shop to buy tobacco/ALCOHOL, I donÂ’t have any idea. This nicotine has totally overpowered me.
Please help me to quit nicotine.
THANKS IN ADVANCE.
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hi
Hello.
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Friends, My English is not good. So, please excuse me for this
Hi,
I am from India and I accidentally stepped into this site while searching for resources helpful in quitting tobacco/nicotine.
Friends, before asking for your help, let me introduce myself.
I am from India and at the age of 16 years I started taking tobacco and since 25 years this stuff has been my regular companion. I have got sick of this habit as I fear one day I would die of cancer. Whenever I feel some sensation in my teeth/mouth I feel i will die soon. I fear to consult a doctor, due to the aforesaid reasons.
I also had a disturbed upbringing/ alcoholic /abusive father, hence my childhood/adolescent stage was painful and due to this I also became an alcoholic. Now, I am going through divorce and my life has become a total hell. Throughout my life I have only felt pain and due to this I am unable to take a positive step.
I had tried numerous times to quit tobacco/alcohol but it would last only for 3-4 days. I always promise myself that I will not touch tobacco/nicotine but how i reach the shop to buy tobacco/ALCOHOL, I donÂ’t have any idea. This nicotine has totally overpowered me.
Please help me to quit nicotine.
THANKS IN ADVANCE.
Welcome Addictedd.....
You are not alone. ALL of us here are fighting the battle of addiction to nicotine. But take heart; this battle can be won, on a daily basis, by posting to our fellow quitters a daily promise to not use nicotine. Then we honor that promise for the next 24 hours, come back tomorrow and post another promise. It is a simple process. Not easy, but simple. The first several days are the toughest, but you have to understand that even though it may feel like you will die if you don't get your nicotine fix, that is not true. Do whatever you have to do to power through those cravings and stay true to your word to not use.
Your quit group can be found Here, in May 2017 (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30137057/234/#new) I would recommend you read up on it and learn how to post (just trying to post is good enough for the first few times; don't expect to master it right away).
With you in this quit!! Welcome!!
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Friends, My English is not good. So, please excuse me for this
Hi,
I am from India and I accidentally stepped into this site while searching for resources helpful in quitting tobacco/nicotine.
Friends, before asking for your help, let me introduce myself.
I am from India and at the age of 16 years I started taking tobacco and since 25 years this stuff has been my regular companion. I have got sick of this habit as I fear one day I would die of cancer. Whenever I feel some sensation in my teeth/mouth I feel i will die soon. I fear to consult a doctor, due to the aforesaid reasons.
I also had a disturbed upbringing/ alcoholic /abusive father, hence my childhood/adolescent stage was painful and due to this I also became an alcoholic. Now, I am going through divorce and my life has become a total hell. Throughout my life I have only felt pain and due to this I am unable to take a positive step.
I had tried numerous times to quit tobacco/alcohol but it would last only for 3-4 days. I always promise myself that I will not touch tobacco/nicotine but how i reach the shop to buy tobacco/ALCOHOL, I donÂ’t have any idea. This nicotine has totally overpowered me.
Please help me to quit nicotine.
THANKS IN ADVANCE.
Welcome Addictedd.....
You are not alone. ALL of us here are fighting the battle of addiction to nicotine. But take heart; this battle can be won, on a daily basis, by posting to our fellow quitters a daily promise to not use nicotine. Then we honor that promise for the next 24 hours, come back tomorrow and post another promise. It is a simple process. Not easy, but simple. The first several days are the toughest, but you have to understand that even though it may feel like you will die if you don't get your nicotine fix, that is not true. Do whatever you have to do to power through those cravings and stay true to your word to not use.
Your quit group can be found Here, in May 2017 (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30137057/234/#new) I would recommend you read up on it and learn how to post (just trying to post is good enough for the first few times; don't expect to master it right away).
With you in this quit!! Welcome!!
7 Hours in to Day 1 (14 hours counting sleep). Maybe people don't post halfway through Day 1 as I know it's not a huge accomplishment yet, but for me, winning the morning and winning against those persuasive early morning voices, it's so crucial.
Was reacquainted with this site after a 14 year hiatus and glad it's still going. Think I can really do it this time. Minute to minute the first few days I know but my only goal today is to beat that voice. Currently....this sucks and I feel like I'm suffocating but I know the answers as to why I'm doing this will become more clear as the fog lifts.
Here's to winning the minute.
Cheers! Let's go!
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I threw my can out today. I've done it numerous times. I dumped what I had left in the toilet and flushed it. I'm a 32 year old female. I feel ashamed I got addicted to this but I'm serious about quitting. I hate having nasty spit bottles laying around plus I met a guy who doesn't know I chew and I really want to quit for myself and him. I run 5k's and ride bike in cycling events. Sadly I got in the habit of justifying that its ok to chew because I work out. Well now it isn't ok.
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Ok here's a good question and one I hadn't thought of until now.
Within 5-10min of waking up every morning I had Copenhagen in my mouth. The only time I would not have it in my mouth is if I were to be eating, I really can't think of a time I didn't have it. However I would keep a dip in for a couple of hours....way past the time of having any flavor or getting any satisfaction, it was "just there".
With that said I had it figured I could get about 2 or 2 1/2 days out of a can. I have read about some of yall going through over a can a day and I was blown away! Not only due to the money yall were spending but also how often you were taking a dip out and putting one in.
We all develop our own habits for different reasons......whatever. My question is how long doe's the actual nicotine last if that makes any sense? Like because I may keep a dip in for 2-3 hours and you only for maybe 30min and then refreshing were you getting more fresh nicotine than I was? If mine was gone was I more in a habit of having something in my lip more than anything?
I don't want to keep trying to explain and become repetitive so hopefully that makes sense to yall.
I will also say the guys and girls on this site are pretty awesome.......good people and I appreciate what you all do. Have a great day!
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I threw my can out today. I've done it numerous times. I dumped what I had left in the toilet and flushed it. I'm a 32 year old female. I feel ashamed I got addicted to this but I'm serious about quitting. I hate having nasty spit bottles laying around plus I met a guy who doesn't know I chew and I really want to quit for myself and him. I run 5k's and ride bike in cycling events. Sadly I got in the habit of justifying that its ok to chew because I work out. Well now it isn't ok.
You just made the best decision of your life! It isn't easy, but as someone that is at 1,058 days clean, I can honestly say that this site saved my life. Take the posting seriously, and ask for help if you need to. Everyone here knows what you are going through, and truly cares about you! Don't be too proud to ask for help.
Congrats on taking your life back!
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I threw my can out today. I've done it numerous times. I dumped what I had left in the toilet and flushed it. I'm a 32 year old female. I feel ashamed I got addicted to this but I'm serious about quitting. I hate having nasty spit bottles laying around plus I met a guy who doesn't know I chew and I really want to quit for myself and him. I run 5k's and ride bike in cycling events. Sadly I got in the habit of justifying that its ok to chew because I work out. Well now it isn't ok.
I am totally getting you on the working out thing. I run 4 days a week, I surf, I skate and I also work out with a personal trainer 3 times a week. For a very long time I felt like "hey I take great care of myself so this can't hurt me" almost like I was above cancer. Whatever.......
In the back of my mind I knew better. I am in northeast Florida and not sure where all this radio commercial was played in the US but it was an auctioneer and he was going over the ages and steps from starting to dip and then onto gum disease, tooth decay and then oral cancer. Anyone else heard that?
I would have to turn the radio station when that would come on. That told me although I felt like I was healthy enough to be ok I really knew I was playing a game with myself. Emotions and mental games can surely put us in messes and we are never ever safe from the "C" word. No one is. People that never smoked have gotten lung cancer. The chances are low for oral cancer I'm pretty certain but I'd rather not do it at all and have those chances.
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Does anyone else have an opinion
It's not worth worrying over, get a second opinion.
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Hey guys. I quit one week ago today. I dipped pretty regularly for about 7 years, I'm 25 now. Im reaching out to see if anyone who has successfully quit can tell me more about what their mouth went through during the first couple of weeks? I was expecting the hardest part would be fighting craves but it's actually been trying to calm myself down about all the weird feelings and stuff my mouth is seemingly going through. Fvck tobacco!!! I'm so mad I let it in my life for so long.
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Hey guys. I quit one week ago today. I dipped pretty regularly for about 7 years, I'm 25 now. Im reaching out to see if anyone who has successfully quit can tell me more about what their mouth went through during the first couple of weeks? I was expecting the hardest part would be fighting craves but it's actually been trying to calm myself down about all the weird feelings and stuff my mouth is seemingly going through. Fvck tobacco!!! I'm so mad I let it in my life for so long.
Hey Collun, congrats on being quit one week, that's awesome. My mouth felt the same way after quitting. There is a lot of great info on this site, so look around and read as much as you can. This is an article from the main KTC website under the "Your Quit", "What to expect when you quit dipping"
Sores In Your Mouth (lip, tongue, cheek, etc.) – you’re done dipping… why does your mouth hurt so damn bad? You’ve got more sores in your mouth now than when you were dipping. What’s going on?!? There are a couple of explanations for this one. First, if you’re like most of us, you’ve found something to replace your dip to get you past the oral fixation (See Smokeless Alternatives). If you’re chewing seeds then there’s a TON of salt in your mouth that wasn’t there before. Also once you get dip out of your system the PH balance in your mouth is changing. Bottom line is this – get to a dentist and get checked out. But unless something stays around for more than two weeks you should be good to go.
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Hey guys. I quit one week ago today. I dipped pretty regularly for about 7 years, I'm 25 now. Im reaching out to see if anyone who has successfully quit can tell me more about what their mouth went through during the first couple of weeks? I was expecting the hardest part would be fighting craves but it's actually been trying to calm myself down about all the weird feelings and stuff my mouth is seemingly going through. Fvck tobacco!!! I'm so mad I let it in my life for so long.
Hey Collun, congrats on being quit one week, that's awesome. My mouth felt the same way after quitting. There is a lot of great info on this site, so look around and read as much as you can. This is an article from the main KTC website under the "Your Quit", "What to expect when you quit dipping"
Sores In Your Mouth (lip, tongue, cheek, etc.) – you’re done dipping… why does your mouth hurt so damn bad? You’ve got more sores in your mouth now than when you were dipping. What’s going on?!? There are a couple of explanations for this one. First, if you’re like most of us, you’ve found something to replace your dip to get you past the oral fixation (See Smokeless Alternatives). If you’re chewing seeds then there’s a TON of salt in your mouth that wasn’t there before. Also once you get dip out of your system the PH balance in your mouth is changing. Bottom line is this – get to a dentist and get checked out. But unless something stays around for more than two weeks you should be good to go.
I also believe firmly that once we quit we tune in to every single thing that goes on in our mouths. We tend to try and ignore things when we are dipping and write them off as "whatever". Once we quit we are really playing close attention. I have been quit since Dec 1 of last year and just last night while brushing my teeth my toothbrush hit something that was sore on my gum. I immediately was thinking "ok what was THAT?!?"
Not that you don't need to go get things checked out but chances are these aren't things that haven't always been going on here or there but we ignored them. Just keep your chin up and be positive until you have reason not to
That's my .02 cents worth on that
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Today is day 1 of my journey! So ready to be nicotine free!
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Today is day 1 of my journey! So ready to be nicotine free!
Congrats!!! Let us know how we can help. You're in the right place and definitely not alone.
Welcome!!!
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Today is day 1 of my journey! So ready to be nicotine free!
Congrats!!! Let us know how we can help. You're in the right place and definitely not alone.
Welcome!!!
Thank you!!! I am now going on day 3!!! This place is awesome!!
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Found this site searching for alternatives for chew, started my quit that day. Had been 1+ can a day for 15 years, I am on day 3 now with now chew but i am using grinds and teaza but I kinda feel like I'm cheating using these.
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So I'm on day 4 without putting a dip in. But the first two days I had on a 21mg patch that expired 10 years ago that I found in a box of crap. So am I on day 4 or day 2?
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So I'm on day 4 without putting a dip in. But the first two days I had on a 21mg patch that expired 10 years ago that I found in a box of crap. So am I on day 4 or day 2?
We go by your nic free date here... so you'd be on day 2.
Congrats on that by the way... that's HUGE!!!
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Found this site searching for alternatives for chew, started my quit that day. Had been 1+ can a day for 15 years, I am on day 3 now with now chew but i am using grinds and teaza but I kinda feel like I'm cheating using these.
My two cents... you're not cheating.
You're not using nicotine and you're not using tobacco. Fake dip like Grinds and Teaza are tools... and great ones at that. Use them.
One day, if you're like me, you just won't reach for them any more. For me that was around day 200 or so into my quit but I'd always said that I'd rather chew a can per day of the fake stuff for the rest of my life then to ever have another dip of Kodiak.
Congrats on day 3!
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Day 3 is good. Hell any number of days quit beyond 1 is a good day.
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Today is day 1 of my journey! So ready to be nicotine free!
Congrats!!! Let us know how we can help. You're in the right place and definitely not alone.
Welcome!!!
Thank you!!! I am now going on day 3!!! This place is awesome!!
And how are you doing? Foggy a bit? Mind games?
Man in the first two weeks I had like body twitches, leg shakes, etc. crazy.
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Not sure where to post this, so someone let me know if this is the wrong forum. I'm on day 7 and feeling pretty confident. Day 6 sucked so much, I figure no day can be worse than that. I have a few questions from those of you who've been around for a while. I appreciate any feedback.
1. Is there a most common time to cave? Ie,,, I don't want to get overconfident. If day 21 is the most common cave day I wanna be aware.
2. Will I ever get a good night's sleep again? If so, about when.
3. Same as number 2, but concerning bowel movements.
4. About which day will I be able to think about other things. Right now I pretty much just think about not dipping. Can't focus.
5. I'm feeling very ashamed today. That I let this addiction go on so long. It has defined me for a long time. Almost all my memories include dip. Will this embarrassment go away?
Thanks for any input
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Not sure where to post this, so someone let me know if this is the wrong forum. I'm on day 7 and feeling pretty confident. Day 6 sucked so much, I figure no day can be worse than that. I have a few questions from those of you who've been around for a while. I appreciate any feedback.
1. Is there a most common time to cave? Ie,,, I don't want to get overconfident. If day 21 is the most common cave day I wanna be aware.
2. Will I ever get a good night's sleep again? If so, about when.
3. Same as number 2, but concerning bowel movements.
4. About which day will I be able to think about other things. Right now I pretty much just think about not dipping. Can't focus.
5. I'm feeling very ashamed today. That I let this addiction go on so long. It has defined me for a long time. Almost all my memories include dip. Will this embarrassment go away?
Thanks for any input
Post this up in the June group. We've had really good support from people in there. Welcome, glad to have you, let's quit this.........
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Not sure where to post this, so someone let me know if this is the wrong forum. I'm on day 7 and feeling pretty confident. Day 6 sucked so much, I figure no day can be worse than that. I have a few questions from those of you who've been around for a while. I appreciate any feedback.
1. Is there a most common time to cave? Ie,,, I don't want to get overconfident. If day 21 is the most common cave day I wanna be aware.
2. Will I ever get a good night's sleep again? If so, about when.
3. Same as number 2, but concerning bowel movements.
4. About which day will I be able to think about other things. Right now I pretty much just think about not dipping. Can't focus.
5. I'm feeling very ashamed today. That I let this addiction go on so long. It has defined me for a long time. Almost all my memories include dip. Will this embarrassment go away?
Thanks for any input
Post this up in the June group. We've had really good support from people in there. Welcome, glad to have you, let's quit this.........
Welcome Tite! Nice going on your quit. Let me give you some possible answers
1: Cave? Day 2 for sure, uhm,, i mean day 5, uhmm day 45, umm day 300 You can cave anytime brother. But thats why you post roll early, post your promise to NOT use tobacco that day. you will be alot less likely to cave. Just get through one day at a time. Dont look ahead
2: Yes
3: Yes - both for me anyway was about 14 days
4: Different with everyone. the mind sticks, fuck them. They are the key to kicking dip to the curb. You have to beat them.
5: Me too man, still embarrassed - day 567. Let that shame help build the walls of your own personal quit higher and higher.... then the cravings, excuses to dip and mind tricks eventually cant climb that high
Do it one day at a time, keep showing up, keep posting. Get active in your group, Live Chat.. be a leader. Post as support in some of the veteran groups. Youll be amazed of the support you will receive back.
Im with you today,only. And tomorrow when we both post, I'll be with you all day too.
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Not sure where to post this, so someone let me know if this is the wrong forum. I'm on day 7 and feeling pretty confident. Day 6 sucked so much, I figure no day can be worse than that. I have a few questions from those of you who've been around for a while. I appreciate any feedback.
1. Is there a most common time to cave? Ie,,, I don't want to get overconfident. If day 21 is the most common cave day I wanna be aware.
2. Will I ever get a good night's sleep again? If so, about when.
3. Same as number 2, but concerning bowel movements.
4. About which day will I be able to think about other things. Right now I pretty much just think about not dipping. Can't focus.
5. I'm feeling very ashamed today. That I let this addiction go on so long. It has defined me for a long time. Almost all my memories include dip. Will this embarrassment go away?
Thanks for any input
Post this up in the June group. We've had really good support from people in there. Welcome, glad to have you, let's quit this.........
Welcome Tite! Nice going on your quit. Let me give you some possible answers
1: Cave? Day 2 for sure, uhm,, i mean day 5, uhmm day 45, umm day 300 You can cave anytime brother. But thats why you post roll early, post your promise to NOT use tobacco that day. you will be alot less likely to cave. Just get through one day at a time. Dont look ahead
2: Yes
3: Yes - both for me anyway was about 14 days
4: Different with everyone. the mind sticks, fuck them. They are the key to kicking dip to the curb. You have to beat them.
5: Me too man, still embarrassed - day 567. Let that shame help build the walls of your own personal quit higher and higher.... then the cravings, excuses to dip and mind tricks eventually cant climb that high
Do it one day at a time, keep showing up, keep posting. Get active in your group, Live Chat.. be a leader. Post as support in some of the veteran groups. Youll be amazed of the support you will receive back.
Im with you today,only. And tomorrow when we both post, I'll be with you all day too.
This ^^^ is great advice. There is no cure brother, and someday you'll come to accept that. For right now, just worry about staying quit for the next 24 hours. It gets better, I promise you that. The flip side is you have to be ready for whatever comes your way. The ticket to that is posting roll every single day and being a man of your word. If you can do that, you can quit nicotine. It won't always be easy but it will always be possible.
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I'm in thanks guys hello everyone Day 8 and doing alright hope everyone else's is holding up
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So I stopped dipping copenhagen after about 17 years in July of 2015. Since then I have become somewhat of an oral cancer hypochondriac. I have been to the dentist and oral surgeon a couple times they seem to think things look ok. My lips and gums healed up alot,but I still have some scaring or slight wrinkles on both sides where I held my dip. These areas still seem to slough off a little skin mostly in the mornings. Question is do you guys that dipped for a lot of years have permanent pockets or scaring where you held your dip?
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So I stopped dipping copenhagen after about 17 years in July of 2015. Since then I have become somewhat of an oral cancer hypochondriac. I have been to the dentist and oral surgeon a couple times they seem to think things look ok. My lips and gums healed up alot,but I still have some scaring or slight wrinkles on both sides where I held my dip. These areas still seem to slough off a little skin mostly in the mornings. Question is do you guys that dipped for a lot of years have permanent pockets or scaring where you held your dip?
Everyone is going to be different, there is no catch all when it comes to oral health.
I've been lucky to have good teeth/gums - two cavities my whole life. Dipped for 15 years.
Both my parents have a ton of cavities and different teeth issues - neither of them used tobacco.
Each one of us will have scarring/gum loss where we dipped. Gum tissue doesn't really ever fully regenerate, but it can heal up. The best thing to do is what you are doing - use your dentist to screen/look at areas you think are of concern. You can always get a second opinion if you don't fully believe them.
Stay off the internet to self diagnose (this goes for anything health related, doctors are there for a reason).
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So I stopped dipping copenhagen after about 17 years in July of 2015. Since then I have become somewhat of an oral cancer hypochondriac. I have been to the dentist and oral surgeon a couple times they seem to think things look ok. My lips and gums healed up alot,but I still have some scaring or slight wrinkles on both sides where I held my dip. These areas still seem to slough off a little skin mostly in the mornings. Question is do you guys that dipped for a lot of years have permanent pockets or scaring where you held your dip?
Everyone is going to be different, there is no catch all when it comes to oral health.
I've been lucky to have good teeth/gums - two cavities my whole life. Dipped for 15 years.
Both my parents have a ton of cavities and different teeth issues - neither of them used tobacco.
Each one of us will have scarring/gum loss where we dipped. Gum tissue doesn't really ever fully regenerate, but it can heal up. The best thing to do is what you are doing - use your dentist to screen/look at areas you think are of concern. You can always get a second opinion if you don't fully believe them.
Stay off the internet to self diagnose (this goes for anything health related, doctors are there for a reason).
Thanks for your reply.
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I appreciate what you are doing here...wanted to thank you for your support. A work buddy of mine who is in his early sixties was just diagnosed with mouth cancer...apparently he did not chew or smoke, but now has to get part of his upper jaw removed. Watching him go through this process...waiting for an updates from the doctors...wondering if the cancer had metastasized to other parts of his body... was enough of a kick-start for me to put the can down. After talking with him...Im pretty sure he called me a horses ass and then explained to me why it is important that I live a long and healthy life....to be a great father and even better grandfather. I have quit in the past once or twice for a few months at a time...so I kind of knew what to expect. I am 11 days tobacco free and it's tough...but I've made it this far without it...I ain't putting that shit back in my mouth. Keep fighting the good fight!
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I appreciate what you are doing here...wanted to thank you for your support. A work buddy of mine who is in his early sixties was just diagnosed with mouth cancer...apparently he did not chew or smoke, but now has to get part of his upper jaw removed. Watching him go through this process...waiting for an updates from the doctors...wondering if the cancer had metastasized to other parts of his body... was enough of a kick-start for me to put the can down. After talking with him...Im pretty sure he called me a horses ass and then explained to me why it is important that I live a long and healthy life....to be a great father and even better grandfather. I have quit in the past once or twice for a few months at a time...so I kind of knew what to expect. I am 11 days tobacco free and it's tough...but I've made it this far without it...I ain't putting that shit back in my mouth. Keep fighting the good fight!
I am glad you are quit and scared straight... I quit for six months one time without KTC then I was back to full time chewer.
But now I am 936 days without chew thanks to KTC after 17+years chewing. Join us and post roll, and never look back.
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I appreciate what you are doing here...wanted to thank you for your support. A work buddy of mine who is in his early sixties was just diagnosed with mouth cancer...apparently he did not chew or smoke, but now has to get part of his upper jaw removed. Watching him go through this process...waiting for an updates from the doctors...wondering if the cancer had metastasized to other parts of his body... was enough of a kick-start for me to put the can down. After talking with him...Im pretty sure he called me a horses ass and then explained to me why it is important that I live a long and healthy life....to be a great father and even better grandfather. I have quit in the past once or twice for a few months at a time...so I kind of knew what to expect. I am 11 days tobacco free and it's tough...but I've made it this far without it...I ain't putting that shit back in my mouth. Keep fighting the good fight!
I am glad you are quit and scared straight... I quit for six months one time without KTC then I was back to full time chewer.
But now I am 936 days without chew thanks to KTC after 17+years chewing. Join us and post roll, and never look back.
Welcome!! Your group would be The June 17 - here's a link June 17 (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30163365/161/#new)
KTC keeps quitters in groups, help everyone because we all go through the same steps at the same (or close)
All you need to do is post your promise to not use nicotine first thing in the morning, then keep your word, then repeat. Super easy
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So I stopped dipping copenhagen after about 17 years in July of 2015. Since then I have become somewhat of an oral cancer hypochondriac. I have been to the dentist and oral surgeon a couple times they seem to think things look ok. My lips and gums healed up alot,but I still have some scaring or slight wrinkles on both sides where I held my dip. These areas still seem to slough off a little skin mostly in the mornings. Question is do you guys that dipped for a lot of years have permanent pockets or scaring where you held your dip?
Everyone is going to be different, there is no catch all when it comes to oral health.
I've been lucky to have good teeth/gums - two cavities my whole life. Dipped for 15 years.
Both my parents have a ton of cavities and different teeth issues - neither of them used tobacco.
Each one of us will have scarring/gum loss where we dipped. Gum tissue doesn't really ever fully regenerate, but it can heal up. The best thing to do is what you are doing - use your dentist to screen/look at areas you think are of concern. You can always get a second opinion if you don't fully believe them.
Stay off the internet to self diagnose (this goes for anything health related, doctors are there for a reason).
Thanks for your reply.
Hey man congrats on quitting I'm back at it again after many struggles. But I wanted to comment on your oral cancer hypocondriacism, which by the way all dippers and former dippers suffer from but just like the thread under yours mentioned you don't have to chew or have even tried chew to end up with oral cancer. I'm sure my mouth has been far more destroyed than yours to the point my gums were just a bloody infected mess which forced me to go to the hospital and have them prescribe me special mouth wash and ointments and after they healed my dumb ass still chewed everyday for the next 6 years. But I have to agree with everyone to not try to diagnose yourself via the Internet because that shit will drive you literally insane. But what I found helped me to lose some anxiety and fear of contracting cancer was to research how to kill it and keep it away and a huge part of that is your diet and making sure you're giving yourself every advantage of keeping cancer at bay, cancer is an epidemic in this country it's not only the smokers and dippers that need to worry about it. So my advice and I'm only speaking from what's helped me mentally and a bonus I've become a lot healthier, is to do a little research make sure your throwing a lot of fruits and vegetables into your diet, drink a lot of water, and get a shit ton of anti-oxidants into your system they'll help to keep the free-radicals(cell mutators) down in your system. Hopefully this helps a bit with your worries and can benefit from some of it.
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So I stopped dipping copenhagen after about 17 years in July of 2015. Since then I have become somewhat of an oral cancer hypochondriac. I have been to the dentist and oral surgeon a couple times they seem to think things look ok. My lips and gums healed up alot,but I still have some scaring or slight wrinkles on both sides where I held my dip. These areas still seem to slough off a little skin mostly in the mornings. Question is do you guys that dipped for a lot of years have permanent pockets or scaring where you held your dip?
Everyone is going to be different, there is no catch all when it comes to oral health.
I've been lucky to have good teeth/gums - two cavities my whole life. Dipped for 15 years.
Both my parents have a ton of cavities and different teeth issues - neither of them used tobacco.
Each one of us will have scarring/gum loss where we dipped. Gum tissue doesn't really ever fully regenerate, but it can heal up. The best thing to do is what you are doing - use your dentist to screen/look at areas you think are of concern. You can always get a second opinion if you don't fully believe them.
Stay off the internet to self diagnose (this goes for anything health related, doctors are there for a reason).
Thanks for your reply.
Hey man congrats on quitting I'm back at it again after many struggles. But I wanted to comment on your oral cancer hypocondriacism, which by the way all dippers and former dippers suffer from but just like the thread under yours mentioned you don't have to chew or have even tried chew to end up with oral cancer. I'm sure my mouth has been far more destroyed than yours to the point my gums were just a bloody infected mess which forced me to go to the hospital and have them prescribe me special mouth wash and ointments and after they healed my dumb ass still chewed everyday for the next 6 years. But I have to agree with everyone to not try to diagnose yourself via the Internet because that shit will drive you literally insane. But what I found helped me to lose some anxiety and fear of contracting cancer was to research how to kill it and keep it away and a huge part of that is your diet and making sure you're giving yourself every advantage of keeping cancer at bay, cancer is an epidemic in this country it's not only the smokers and dippers that need to worry about it. So my advice and I'm only speaking from what's helped me mentally and a bonus I've become a lot healthier, is to do a little research make sure your throwing a lot of fruits and vegetables into your diet, drink a lot of water, and get a shit ton of anti-oxidants into your system they'll help to keep the free-radicals(cell mutators) down in your system. Hopefully this helps a bit with your worries and can benefit from some of it.
Thanks, I guess what is most concerning to me is the tissue sloughing and wonder if anyone else has it. I hope your able to stop, it has got a lot easier for me as time goes on. That said if I was told I only had six months to live,I go into the store and get a can.
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As if this shit wasn't bad enough already...
U.S Smokeless Tobacco Company recalls products after sharp metal objects discovered.
http://www.wsmv.com/story/34399596/us-s ... discovered (http://www.wsmv.com/story/34399596/us-smokeless-tobacco-company-recalls-products-after-sharp-metal-objects-discovered)
Jeez.. ... I remembered sometimes when I help the can and the light hit it just right i could see sparkles... but nothing like this. My mouth loves my again after hating me for almost 30 years
Here's the recall letter in case you'd like to read something dripping with irony.
https://www.killthecan.org/an-important ... al-recall/ (https://www.killthecan.org/an-important-message-from-skoal-recall/)
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As if this shit wasn't bad enough already...
U.S Smokeless Tobacco Company recalls products after sharp metal objects discovered.
http://www.wsmv.com/story/34399596/us-s ... discovered (http://www.wsmv.com/story/34399596/us-smokeless-tobacco-company-recalls-products-after-sharp-metal-objects-discovered)
Jeez.. ... I remembered sometimes when I help the can and the light hit it just right i could see sparkles... but nothing like this. My mouth loves my again after hating me for almost 30 years
Here's the recall letter in case you'd like to read something dripping with irony.
https://www.killthecan.org/an-important ... al-recall/ (https://www.killthecan.org/an-important-message-from-skoal-recall/)
I received another recall notice in the mail today
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As if this shit wasn't bad enough already...
U.S Smokeless Tobacco Company recalls products after sharp metal objects discovered.
http://www.wsmv.com/story/34399596/us-s ... discovered (http://www.wsmv.com/story/34399596/us-smokeless-tobacco-company-recalls-products-after-sharp-metal-objects-discovered)
Jeez.. ... I remembered sometimes when I help the can and the light hit it just right i could see sparkles... but nothing like this. My mouth loves my again after hating me for almost 30 years
Here's the recall letter in case you'd like to read something dripping with irony.
https://www.killthecan.org/an-important ... al-recall/ (https://www.killthecan.org/an-important-message-from-skoal-recall/)
I received another recall notice in the mail today
Same content as above? Can you take a pic and send it to me?
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Need help fellas! Been quite for over a month. Dipped for about 25+ yrs. quite because I had a strange feeling from my chin to the bottom of my throat. Went to an oral surgeon an a ear, nose an throat dr. Had visual by both dr's an CT an scope scan of my throat. No signs of anything! But I have this weird/tinder feeling! I am stressed out that I didn't get the right test done or wasn't able to access the problem properly to my dr.! Can someone help me that has dipped that long an quite??? Need y'all support please
Having similar sensations. Don't know any more than you do but I appreciate you posting. None of this is "normal" but it cuts down the panic to know others are having similar feelings.
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Need help fellas! Been quite for over a month. Dipped for about 25+ yrs. quite because I had a strange feeling from my chin to the bottom of my throat. Went to an oral surgeon an a ear, nose an throat dr. Had visual by both dr's an CT an scope scan of my throat. No signs of anything! But I have this weird/tinder feeling! I am stressed out that I didn't get the right test done or wasn't able to access the problem properly to my dr.! Can someone help me that has dipped that long an quite??? Need y'all support please
Having similar sensations. Don't know any more than you do but I appreciate you posting. None of this is "normal" but it cuts down the panic to know others are having similar feelings.
A second qualified medical opinion is probably a good idea, but if you've already been cleared by a screening, then you're almost certainly ok. Doctors to miss stuff, so I wouldn't discourage a second opinion, but it will probably serve mostly to give you peace of mind.
This kind of stuff is extremely common with quitters in the first few months. Phantom pain, itch, rash, tingle, general weirdness etc. It can manifest itself differently between people, but overall it's a totally normal part of quitting. Also, it should eventually go away.
There are several possible explanations for why you are feeling strange. 1) Your body is healing. You're no longer doing damage to the tissue and this is the process by which your body is repairing the soft tissue. 2) You're hyper aware of any strange feeling because the health aspects of dip have hit home. You're on the lookout for something to be wrong because after 25 years, surely something must be. 3) Psychosomatic. It's all in your head. Your brain can do some funky shit. After years of tobacco abuse, your brain might be creating the feeling of a symptom because you expect something to be there. Sometimes people who have witnessed something shocking/ tragic might temporarily lose their vision without any physical cause. Your brain is going through nicotine withdrawal and is in full panic mode. 4) Night Elves. Big Tobacco hires these notorious little bastards sneak into your room at night and punch you in the throat when you sleep as punishment for quitting their product. Their tiny fists won't hurt enough to wake you up, but will definitely leave you sore.
It's possible that it's some combination of those factors. Eventually, when your quit isn't so fresh and your body/ brain has healed up, the symptoms will go away. I recommend glue traps for the Elves.
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Hi All,
Just started killing the can starting yesterday. I've been wanting to do this for the last year or so. Been dipping for the last 8 years, Thanks for all the support. I realized so far the hardest part is the habitual dips during the day and how to replace that time.
Kfresh423
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Hi All,
Just started killing the can starting yesterday. I've been wanting to do this for the last year or so. Been dipping for the last 8 years, Thanks for all the support. I realized so far the hardest part is the habitual dips during the day and how to replace that time.
Kfresh423
Welcome to KTC and congrats on a great choice!!
It looks like you will be in the June 2017 quit group June 2017 (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30163365/234/#new) They will be going through many of the same feelings as you and will help you get support
Head in there and post roll, that is our daily promise to ourselves and others that we will not use nicotine today. Keep your word and do it again tomorrow.
Glad to quit with you today
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Hi All,
Just started killing the can starting yesterday. I've been wanting to do this for the last year or so. Been dipping for the last 8 years, Thanks for all the support. I realized so far the hardest part is the habitual dips during the day and how to replace that time.
Kfresh423
Welcome to KTC and congrats on a great choice!!
It looks like you will be in the June 2017 quit group June 2017 (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30163365/234/#new) They will be going through many of the same feelings as you and will help you get support
Head in there and post roll, that is our daily promise to ourselves and others that we will not use nicotine today. Keep your word and do it again tomorrow.
Glad to quit with you today
here - this will clear a little bit up also Welcome (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1003535/1/#new)
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Welcome Kfresh.
Simply said, KTC and posting roll is the only thing that has worked for me in regards to quitting. Ive always found my way back to the can. Not today. I posted my promise to quit today.
When i get up tomorrow I'll post my promise. Just quit one day at a time. Get active in your group. Be a leader, exchange phone numbers ith guys. Try live chat if that's your thing.
Congratulations on your decision. Hope to see you join the quit group and feel the true power of KTC
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Welcome Kfresh.
Simply said, KTC and posting roll is the only thing that has worked for me in regards to quitting. Ive always found my way back to the can. Not today. I posted my promise to quit today.
When i get up tomorrow I'll post my promise. Just quit one day at a time. Get active in your group. Be a leader, exchange phone numbers ith guys. Try live chat if that's your thing.
Congratulations on your decision. Hope to see you join the quit group and feel the true power of KTC
Welcome KFresh I'm Mav06 I am a member in the June 2017 quit group. Also a recent quitter 9 days deep to be exact and that after dipping for the past 15yrs probably not missing more than a couple sick days in that stretch. KTC has what seem to be some strange/intense methods to quitting but let me tell you first hand that they work. Posting roll and reading all the different material on the site will keep you on track and exchanging numbers to txt and posting roll daily will hold you accountable. If you have any questions you can PM me or anyone in the group, everyone is pretty willing to assist as long as you're serious about your quit. Quit on brother drink a lot of water to flush that nicotine out of your system and get some hard candies, smokey mountain, gum, I use Grinds, or anything else that will help curve that physical/oral crave.
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Hello all, 5 days ago I decided to make the long hard trudge to quit. Definitely glad I found a place where experienced quitters can help give some insight or shed some light on the rough journey. Copenhagen Longcut was my vice and boy do I miss it. Been dipping for about 4 years now and decided that it was time to kick it. Just wasn't feeling it anymore. It's definitely been hard trying to hang in there, seems like it comes in waves where I feel completely great and then crappy again. Any advice to help get through the early stages would be much appreciated. I work a high stress job and I just got off vacation so we'll see how going back to work goes.
Stay the course ladies and gents.
-FarNorthQuitter
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Hello all, 5 days ago I decided to make the long hard trudge to quit. Definitely glad I found a place where experienced quitters can help give some insight or shed some light on the rough journey. Copenhagen Longcut was my vice and boy do I miss it. Been dipping for about 4 years now and decided that it was time to kick it. Just wasn't feeling it anymore. It's definitely been hard trying to hang in there, seems like it comes in waves where I feel completely great and then crappy again. Any advice to help get through the early stages would be much appreciated. I work a high stress job and I just got off vacation so we'll see how going back to work goes.
Stay the course ladies and gents.
-FarNorthQuitter
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Hello all, 5 days ago I decided to make the long hard trudge to quit. Definitely glad I found a place where experienced quitters can help give some insight or shed some light on the rough journey. Copenhagen Longcut was my vice and boy do I miss it. Been dipping for about 4 years now and decided that it was time to kick it. Just wasn't feeling it anymore. It's definitely been hard trying to hang in there, seems like it comes in waves where I feel completely great and then crappy again. Any advice to help get through the early stages would be much appreciated. I work a high stress job and I just got off vacation so we'll see how going back to work goes.
Stay the course ladies and gents.
-FarNorthQuitter
Welcome Far North! Nice job on 5 days quit. It isnt easy. Eventually you will learn to NOT miss the dip. The evil Nicotine bitch is always lurking, but as you move forward with KTC you'll gain tools, knowledge, and strategies to overcome these craves.
Im copying a bit from my post above, sure hope you can join the quit group, and post roll, good luck man,
Simply said, KTC and posting roll is the only thing that has worked for me in regards to quitting. Ive always found my way back to the can. Not today. I posted my promise to quit today.
When i get up tomorrow I'll post my promise. Just quit one day at a time. Its worked 581 days for me so far
Get active in your group. Be a leader, exchange phone numbers with guys. Try live chat if that's your thing.
Congratulations on your decision. Hope to see you join the quit group and feel the true power of KTC
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your quit Group is June 2017. Drop in there, drop a post, learn about how to post roll.
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Hello all, 5 days ago I decided to make the long hard trudge to quit. Definitely glad I found a place where experienced quitters can help give some insight or shed some light on the rough journey. Copenhagen Longcut was my vice and boy do I miss it. Been dipping for about 4 years now and decided that it was time to kick it. Just wasn't feeling it anymore. It's definitely been hard trying to hang in there, seems like it comes in waves where I feel completely great and then crappy again. Any advice to help get through the early stages would be much appreciated. I work a high stress job and I just got off vacation so we'll see how going back to work goes.
Stay the course ladies and gents.
-FarNorthQuitter
Welcome Far North! Nice job on 5 days quit. It isnt easy. Eventually you will learn to NOT miss the dip. The evil Nicotine bitch is always lurking, but as you move forward with KTC you'll gain tools, knowledge, and strategies to overcome these craves.
Im copying a bit from my post above, sure hope you can join the quit group, and post roll, good luck man,
Simply said, KTC and posting roll is the only thing that has worked for me in regards to quitting. Ive always found my way back to the can. Not today. I posted my promise to quit today.
When i get up tomorrow I'll post my promise. Just quit one day at a time. Its worked 581 days for me so far
Get active in your group. Be a leader, exchange phone numbers with guys. Try live chat if that's your thing.
Congratulations on your decision. Hope to see you join the quit group and feel the true power of KTC
Things are always going to be hard, difficult and stressful. There have been quitters go through a divorce, death of a loved one and many difficult challenges but were able to stay quit.
They understood that chew wasn't going to make anything better. If you want it we will be here posting roll each and everyday, #quitting
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Just joined the CAN last night!!! still trying to figure out the site but glad to be here. I quit 9 days ago 3/13. Been on skoal wintergreen, cop skoal peach sense I was 14 that's 40 years ago I'm sorry to say but enough is enough. I bought Hooch peach and it seems to be getting the job done for me so far. Wish me some luck!!!
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Just joined the CAN last night!!! still trying to figure out the site but glad to be here. I quit 9 days ago 3/13. Been on skoal wintergreen, cop skoal peach sense I was 14 that's 40 years ago I'm sorry to say but enough is enough. I bought Hooch peach and it seems to be getting the job done for me so far. Wish me some luck!!!
Welcome! This site can be a little tricky at first, but you'll figure it out if you play around a little. I think they make it purposefully tricky because it forces you to spend some time figuring it out.
First things first, there is no luck. There is hard work, commitment, accountability and success. I am 325 days quit and the only role luck played was that I was lucky to find this site. I'm quit because every single day, generally before even getting out of bed, I posted a promise on this site that I would not use nicotine for that day. I kept that promise and will make the same one tomorrow.
Anyone can do it, but when you sign up for that, you are now accountable to your group. Your quit group is full of people fighting the same fight. You can't let those people down. I'll just about guarantee that on any given day, someone in that group is facing something more difficult than you are, so if they can stay quit, you have no excuse to cave.
Be prepared for a battle. 9 days is a hell of an accomplishment. You should be very proud of those days, but it doesn't end there. You will find never ending support from the brotherhood here. You will also find that people will drag your ass through the fire should that be required. That accountability is the rug that ties the room together.
So go find your quit group (yours should be June), post your name and day count and get to know your brothers. I won't wish you good luck, but I will hope for your success.
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I quit 126 days ago yesterday. Does a dip sound good? Eh sometimes it does but the craving is not stronger than I am.
Randon.........I know.
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New to the site, I wish I'd found it earlier! 20 year dipper quit 2 times recently. Made it over 6 months each time but caved for no reason. I like the idea of roll call. This time I truly HATE nicotine and I'm done forever.
Never quit quitting!! That's my 2 cents
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New to the site, I wish I'd found it earlier! 20 year dipper quit 2 times recently. Made it over 6 months each time but caved for no reason. I like the idea of roll call. This time I truly HATE nicotine and I'm done forever.
Never quit quitting!! That's my 2 cents
Welcome Grey Beard! Learning to truly hate nicotine is a huge step towards success.
If you know about roll, you should go get on it. Check out your quit group and make an introduction. This site has a lot of different ways to help, so browse around.
Let me know if I can help
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New to the site, I wish I'd found it earlier! 20 year dipper quit 2 times recently. Made it over 6 months each time but caved for no reason. I like the idea of roll call. This time I truly HATE nicotine and I'm done forever.
Never quit quitting!! That's my 2 cents
Welcome Grey Beard! Learning to truly hate nicotine is a huge step towards success.
If you know about roll, you should go get on it. Check out your quit group and make an introduction. This site has a lot of different ways to help, so browse around.
Let me know if I can help
Awesome Grey Beard. Welcome to KTC! Congrats on your decision to take back your life! I see you've already posted roll in July. Great job! You might want to consider copying the above post and create your own intro in the intro section. It'll be your own thread that you can post your progress to as you go a long and others can post encouragement to it too. Intro section (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/55574/)
Proud to Quit with you today
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Happy Easter quitters!
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Anyone else experience vomiting when they quit I over all feel great and haven't dipped in about a week now I'm just tired of the anxiety and worrying I feel like I'm going insane. Hope everyone has a great easter!
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Anyone else experience vomiting when they quit I over all feel great and haven't dipped in about a week now I'm just tired of the anxiety and worrying I feel like I'm going insane. Hope everyone has a great easter!
I'm on day 10 now and I am still waking up with a little tummy pain. The anxiety is residing but I have found mediation to be my key. I do it three times a day 15 min sessions. It is a long process but hang in there it will get so much better. ;)
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I hope so I have no desire to ever use that crap again the feeling of somethimg stuck at my tonsils, neck pain, vomiting, head aches and all of the other stuff going on is enough to have me terrified I've been trying to wait until I've been at my job long enough to have insurance to go to the Dr but I may wind up in the er tonight I'm not sure how much more of the anxiety I can take
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None of us are ever "safe" I believe that. Any one of us could fall off the wagon anytime but yesterday I was sitting on my couch and actually tried to imagine what it actually felt like to have in my mouth. To do a little repack with my tongue when it would get a little spread out in my lip. It's only been 20 weeks for me this coming Thursday but the thought of what it even felt like is gone....it was so odd.
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Well the anxiety got the best of me today I left work and went to the er the Dr said everything looked good I do have some small spots of leukoplakia, go to the ent Wednesday to have them checked out.
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Well the anxiety got the best of me today I left work and went to the er the Dr said everything looked good I do have some small spots of leukoplakia, go to the ent Wednesday to have them checked out.
Nothing wrong with getting checked out my man - if nothing else it'll give you some peace of mind.
Hang in there!
Chewie
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So going back to work today after being away for 2 weeks. My anexity is not too bad but my stomic just feels upset. Work was the only place u dipped cause I would hide it from my wife. This is also the place I had a panic attack 2 weeks ago then I stopped the dipping. Today is day 11 with no dip and it is a big day for me as I have to get back to working. I hope the stomic will settle once I get there and no one looks at the different. I know my anexity has got better as I had none yesterday but have has a little today. Currently sitting at the doctor to get clearance to go back to work. Keep me in yall praise.
Thanks
Neil
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Well the anxiety got the best of me today I left work and went to the er the Dr said everything looked good I do have some small spots of leukoplakia, go to the ent Wednesday to have them checked out.
Stay strong brother it got the best of me also, but had a lot of support here and my family. I promise it may feel like it's never going to get better but rest assured the mind has to rewire itself and you will start feeling so much better. Best of luck with your struggle I was there last week.
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So going back to work today after being away for 2 weeks. My anexity is not too bad but my stomic just feels upset. Work was the only place u dipped cause I would hide it from my wife. This is also the place I had a panic attack 2 weeks ago then I stopped the dipping. Today is day 11 with no dip and it is a big day for me as I have to get back to working. I hope the stomic will settle once I get there and no one looks at the different. I know my anexity has got better as I had none yesterday but have has a little today. Currently sitting at the doctor to get clearance to go back to work. Keep me in yall praise.
Thanks
Neil
Sitting at work now all I think about is a dip after eating my lunch. Only time will make these cravings go away. Thanks all for the support.
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So going back to work today after being away for 2 weeks. My anexity is not too bad but my stomic just feels upset. Work was the only place u dipped cause I would hide it from my wife. This is also the place I had a panic attack 2 weeks ago then I stopped the dipping. Today is day 11 with no dip and it is a big day for me as I have to get back to working. I hope the stomic will settle once I get there and no one looks at the different. I know my anexity has got better as I had none yesterday but have has a little today. Currently sitting at the doctor to get clearance to go back to work. Keep me in yall praise.
Thanks
Neil
Sitting at work now all I think about is a dip after eating my lunch. Only time will make these cravings go away. Thanks all for the support.
Drink lots of water Neil, you're doing great. Dip never did anything for you (despite what the addict part of your brain is telling your right now). You don't need a dip after lunch just like when you were a baby you didn't need one after you ate. Your body wasn't meant to be ingesting that weed, you just trained your body to accept it. It takes work, but now you have to train it to accept the fact that you will not be dipping today. Just take it one day at a time. Don't worry about tomorrow because you can't do anything with it until it gets here.
My recommendation would be to join your quit group here on the forums: July 2017 (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30190862/120/#new).
You will reach 100 days quit with that group. They are going through the same things you are right now and can lend you a helping hand when you need it and give you a swift kick in the ass when you need that too. This site works because of that brotherhood and accountability. Keep up the good work, I promise you it will be worth it.
KingNothing - 649 days dip free and thankful for every minute of it.
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Went to the ent yesterday he said he didn't see anything to worry about he said most the places in my mouth were due to biting my lip because of anxiety I sure hope he was right he wants me back in 2 months for a check up, most of the crazy feelings I was having went away after he told me that haha, anyway I'm on day 8 and feeling great!
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Went to the ent yesterday he said he didn't see anything to worry about he said most the places in my mouth were due to biting my lip because of anxiety I sure hope he was right he wants me back in 2 months for a check up, most of the crazy feelings I was having went away after he told me that haha, anyway I'm on day 8 and feeling great!
Nearly 100% of quitters go through some sort of weird symptoms early on. Mouth throat pain are extremely common. It's most likely your body's response to extreme stress and anxiety about quitting. When you take a drug away, your brain is going to respond.
I'd really encourage you to start posting in the July 2017 quit group. Everyone there is within a few weeks of your quit date and they will be able to relate to what you're going through and share their advice.
They will also hold you accountable, which is the key to quitting successfully. The General Discusson page doesn't get a lot of traffic, so only posting here means that you're missing out on the most useful parts of this site. Let me know if I can help.
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Im inspired by you chew quitters! Its all in the mind and easier said than done but when i think of how wierd it is that the urge is so personal and so human, it makes it sort of shed away and make it seem so unimportant, which it is. Or sometimes to help me i'll think of it like maybe if you KNEW 1000% chance if you did choose to have one more dip that you'd get mouth cancer the next day, there's no way you'd still have a dip. It wouldnt be worth it. How many times have you quit and then had a dip and it just made you feel like SHIT? Ive done that countless times. Hope this helps someone. It's not worth it. I'll quit forever if you quit forever. You have my word.
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Comments due for smokeless tobacco July 10
FRANKFORT, Ky. — Agriculture Commissioner Ryan Quarles announced the comment period for a proposed federal regulation on smokeless tobacco products has
been extended from April 10 to July 10, according to a report in The Daily Independent of Ashland, Ky.
“This proposed rule would have a devastating economic impact on dark tobacco growers and businesses in Kentucky,” Quarles said. “If enacted, it would have the
effect of banning the sale of smokeless tobacco in the United States. I urge anyone who has an interest to send your comments to Washington and let your voice
be heard.”
In a letter to Health and Human Services Secretary Tom Price earlier this month, he asked the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to withdraw the proposal. Quarles said the FDA did not accurately estimate the economic impact of the proposed rule. The proposal would limit the N-Nitrosonornicotine level in finished smokeless tobacco products to 1 part per million.
Quarles suggested stakeholders be brought together to create a new standard that is realistic and achievable and would not create a devastating economic impact.
Kentucky led the nation in production of dark firecured and dark air-cured tobacco in 2015 at 31.7 million pounds and 13.75 million pounds, respectively. To read
the rule and comment, visit www.bit.ly/2n4J6BF (http://www.bit.ly/2n4J6BF)
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Stop Big Tobacco From Luring Kids
By Friday April 28th, 2017, Congress must vote on a spending bill to keep the government open. Tobacco companies are working to insert two provisions that would make it much harder for the FDA to protect kids from candy-flavored e-cigarettes and cigars.
One provision exempts existing e-cigarettes and cigars from a health and safety review by the FDA. The other exempts certain cigars from regulation completely.
Please call your members of Congress and ask them to keep these provisions out of the spending bill.
The number for the U.S. Capitol switchboard is 202-224-3121.
If youÂ’re not sure who your members of Congress are, you can look them up here.
Make sure to tell them:
DonÂ’t weaken FDA oversight of e-cigarettes and cigars.
They come in thousands of kid-friendly flavors like gummy worm, cotton candy, cherry crush, and chocolate.
16% of kids now use e-cigarettes, more than use traditional cigarettes. And more high school boys now smoke cigars than cigarettes.
Flavors have helped fuel the popularity of these products among kids. In fact, 81% of kids who have ever used tobacco products started with a flavored product.
A recent poll found that 70% of American voters – across the political spectrum – agree that Congress shouldn’t limit FDA oversight of tobacco.
https://www.killthecan.org/stop-big-tob ... ring-kids/ (https://www.killthecan.org/stop-big-tobacco-from-luring-kids/)
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I know MLB is trying to do something, banning in certain parks... but man, its beyond time for them to ban that shit completely. Nothing good comes from using dip. zero.
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I know MLB is trying to do something, banning in certain parks... but man, its beyond time for them to ban that shit completely. Nothing good comes from using dip. zero.
Touchy subject when it comes to banning.
On one hand, I totally agree with you that there's no place for dip within our national past time.
On the other, I'm a firm believer that every man should make his own choice and shouldn't have choice legislated for him.
Rock / Hard Place
ALL of that said, if MLB wants to ban it, they've got every right to. They are the employer. They can ban their employees from using tobacco in their place of employment. If they're gonna do it they should just do it and get it done with. I'm guessing they're worried about the players union, but any blow back they get from the players will be more than made up for by goodwill from the public.
My two cents
Chewie
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First post. Quit April 30, 2017. 1 day under my belt. Been dippin for 20 years. My family's been on me to quit. They all say I'm going to get cancer. My grandpa dipped til he died, some do, some don't. I only dipped at noon and at night. Got a scare recently, have whites spots on my gums and both sides of my mouth sore! Not good! This is probably a good warning to stop!
Went and bought nicotine gum, it helps a little. Hard part is watching tv at night, favorite time to chew. Or golfing, or at the movies or at pro sport, etc etc etc.
This forum seems awesome. Great platform for support. Any help from anyone is welcomed and appreciated!
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First post. Quit April 30, 2017. 1 day under my belt. Been dippin for 20 years. My family's been on me to quit. They all say I'm going to get cancer. My grandpa dipped til he died, some do, some don't. I only dipped at noon and at night. Got a scare recently, have whites spots on my gums and both sides of my mouth sore! Not good! This is probably a good warning to stop!
Went and bought nicotine gum, it helps a little. Hard part is watching tv at night, favorite time to chew. Or golfing, or at the movies or at pro sport, etc etc etc.
This forum seems awesome. Great platform for support. Any help from anyone is welcomed and appreciated!
Glad to see you here on KTC brother. The best thing to do is rip that tape off and quit cold turkey! All that nicotine gum does is keep the nic bitch around. I too had soreness in my gums right before I quit, that is one of the reasons I quit. This place is awesome for support, you just need to throw everything that contains nicotine out and take the plunge. Quit for the next 24 hours, wake up and do it again. Head on over to the introduction section and introduce yourself after you flush everything.
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First post. Quit April 30, 2017. 1 day under my belt. Been dippin for 20 years. My family's been on me to quit. They all say I'm going to get cancer. My grandpa dipped til he died, some do, some don't. I only dipped at noon and at night. Got a scare recently, have whites spots on my gums and both sides of my mouth sore! Not good! This is probably a good warning to stop!
Went and bought nicotine gum, it helps a little. Hard part is watching tv at night, favorite time to chew. Or golfing, or at the movies or at pro sport, etc etc etc.
This forum seems awesome. Great platform for support. Any help from anyone is welcomed and appreciated!
Hi Cliff, thanks for posting and congrats on your decision to quit.
The best piece of advice that I can give you is to dump all of the nicotine gum and go cold turkey. Nicotine replacement is just a different form of the same drug. I'm sorry if that seems like a waste of money, but look at it this way, it's the last money you will ever have to waste on nicotine!
The way that you use this site is to find your quit group and to post a daily promise not to use any nicotine product. You quit one day at a time and track those days - called posting Roll. If you toss your gum and quit for real today, your group will be August 2017 (August because that is when you'll cross 100 days, considered Hall of Fame). All of the folks in that group will be within several days of you and will understand exactly what you're going through.
This system might sound a little silly, but I promise you that it works. If you are willing to dig in and follow the program here, I guarantee you can be quit. It just depends on how much you want this for yourself.
Let me know if I can help.
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First post. Quit April 30, 2017. 1 day under my belt. Been dippin for 20 years. My family's been on me to quit. They all say I'm going to get cancer. My grandpa dipped til he died, some do, some don't. I only dipped at noon and at night. Got a scare recently, have whites spots on my gums and both sides of my mouth sore! Not good! This is probably a good warning to stop!
Went and bought nicotine gum, it helps a little. Hard part is watching tv at night, favorite time to chew. Or golfing, or at the movies or at pro sport, etc etc etc.
This forum seems awesome. Great platform for support. Any help from anyone is welcomed and appreciated!
Hi Cliff, thanks for posting and congrats on your decision to quit.
The best piece of advice that I can give you is to dump all of the nicotine gum and go cold turkey. Nicotine replacement is just a different form of the same drug. I'm sorry if that seems like a waste of money, but look at it this way, it's the last money you will ever have to waste on nicotine!
The way that you use this site is to find your quit group and to post a daily promise not to use any nicotine product. You quit one day at a time and track those days - called posting Roll. If you toss your gum and quit for real today, your group will be August 2017 (August because that is when you'll cross 100 days, considered Hall of Fame). All of the folks in that group will be within several days of you and will understand exactly what you're going through.
This system might sound a little silly, but I promise you that it works. If you are willing to dig in and follow the program here, I guarantee you can be quit. It just depends on how much you want this for yourself.
Let me know if I can help.
Hi Cliff. Last week was hell for me. Hot flashes. Sweating. Rage outbursts. Depression. Insomnia . Today is day 8 for me after 20 plus years. This support system has been so awesome at KTC. I would be in your august quit group if you decide you're ready to get rid of all nicotine buddy.
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First post. Quit April 30, 2017. 1 day under my belt. Been dippin for 20 years. My family's been on me to quit. They all say I'm going to get cancer. My grandpa dipped til he died, some do, some don't. I only dipped at noon and at night. Got a scare recently, have whites spots on my gums and both sides of my mouth sore! Not good! This is probably a good warning to stop!
Went and bought nicotine gum, it helps a little. Hard part is watching tv at night, favorite time to chew. Or golfing, or at the movies or at pro sport, etc etc etc.
This forum seems awesome. Great platform for support. Any help from anyone is welcomed and appreciated!
Hi Cliff, thanks for posting and congrats on your decision to quit.
The best piece of advice that I can give you is to dump all of the nicotine gum and go cold turkey. Nicotine replacement is just a different form of the same drug. I'm sorry if that seems like a waste of money, but look at it this way, it's the last money you will ever have to waste on nicotine!
The way that you use this site is to find your quit group and to post a daily promise not to use any nicotine product. You quit one day at a time and track those days - called posting Roll. If you toss your gum and quit for real today, your group will be August 2017 (August because that is when you'll cross 100 days, considered Hall of Fame). All of the folks in that group will be within several days of you and will understand exactly what you're going through.
This system might sound a little silly, but I promise you that it works. If you are willing to dig in and follow the program here, I guarantee you can be quit. It just depends on how much you want this for yourself.
Let me know if I can help.
Hi Cliff. Last week was hell for me. Hot flashes. Sweating. Rage outbursts. Depression. Insomnia . Today is day 8 for me after 20 plus years. This support system has been so awesome at KTC. I would be in your august quit group if you decide you're ready to get rid of all nicotine buddy.
Dipped for a long time myself. Now I am quit for 1,160 days and loving it. You will never regret quitting.
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Alright day 4 here and I feel like I am mentally handicapped. Literally a task at work which should have taken me 30-40 minutes, took me almost 3 hours. I know that this is part of the fog and the brain rewire process but holy shit! Please someone tell me I'll get my brain back?!?
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Alright day 4 here and I feel like I am mentally handicapped. Literally a task at work which should have taken me 30-40 minutes, took me almost 3 hours. I know that this is part of the fog and the brain rewire process but holy shit! Please someone tell me I'll get my brain back?!?
You will get it back - it might be a few days but you will get your ability to function back.
The cool thing is, the brain you get back won't demand that you pump chemicals into it every few hours.
But yeah man, I'd recommend informing co-workers of the quit and just let them know the next week or so is going to be atypical.
It will be worth it
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Alright day 4 here and I feel like I am mentally handicapped. Literally a task at work which should have taken me 30-40 minutes, took me almost 3 hours. I know that this is part of the fog and the brain rewire process but holy shit! Please someone tell me I'll get my brain back?!?
You will get it back - it might be a few days but you will get your ability to function back.
The cool thing is, the brain you get back won't demand that you pump chemicals into it every few hours.
But yeah man, I'd recommend informing co-workers of the quit and just let them know the next week or so is going to be atypical.
It will be worth it
Thanks pky for the re-reassurance! Trust me my colleagues already know, no hiding my lack of brain power today.
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New to the site, I wish I'd found it earlier! 20 year dipper quit 2 times recently. Made it over 6 months each time but caved for no reason. I like the idea of roll call. This time I truly HATE nicotine and I'm done forever.
Never quit quitting!! That's my 2 cents
Welcome Grey Beard! This site will provide you all the support you need. Looks like you will be a part of the July 2017 Quit group. Join the group and post roll every day. We have all been slaves to the nic bitch and understand what you are about to go through again.
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hi
this is srk
i used to dip indian tubacco called miraz
i have just quitted from 30 day
i have numbness and tingling in my mouth in chick and in tith
also
and also have pain in my jaw bt it is not countinues bt at only some time is this happend ??
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I've been chewing for three years, about 2 cans a week. I know this is unhealthy, but i hear so many people say oh thats nothing I'm doing a can a day or a can and a half a day. Sometimes ill go a few days without dipping, but mostly its 2 or 3 dips a day. I have certain triggers to dip such as fishing, golf, or studying. I'm planning on quitting in about a week because i am moving to a city where dip is about double or triple the cost i pay now. I also want to rid myself of a habit that most find disgusting. I never feel any withdrawal side effects when i stop for three days or so but i always get that urge to do it after about 72 hours off of it. When i quit what are some ways to combat that urge. Fake alternatives don't do much for me, and the reason i do it is for that relaxing side effect. Any advice would be appreciated.
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I've been chewing for three years, about 2 cans a week. I know this is unhealthy, but i hear so many people say oh thats nothing I'm doing a can a day or a can and a half a day. Sometimes ill go a few days without dipping, but mostly its 2 or 3 dips a day. I have certain triggers to dip such as fishing, golf, or studying. I'm planning on quitting in about a week because i am moving to a city where dip is about double or triple the cost i pay now. I also want to rid myself of a habit that most find disgusting. I never feel any withdrawal side effects when i stop for three days or so but i always get that urge to do it after about 72 hours off of it. When i quit what are some ways to combat that urge. Fake alternatives don't do much for me, and the reason i do it is for that relaxing side effect. Any advice would be appreciated.
Hey buddy, this might be tough to read, but what you're describing is an addiction. Now, it seems to not be as developed and ingrained as it will become, but it's an addiction nonetheless. You might only dip in certain situations right now, but as your brain becomes more reliant on the nicotine, you will find more excuses/ situations and your intake will increase - regardless of the price tag at your local store.
Your "stop for 3 days, start again" cycle is extremely common. Unfortunately, what you'll find is that after these stoppages, you'll likely go back to using even more than before.
Luckily, you found this site and we can help. We quit for real here. Cold Turkey, every damn day. Go find the forum called "quit groups" find the August 2017 group, you'll find instructions on posting "roll." If you are really ready to quit and you get rid of all of your tobacco products, post your name and promise not to use. Do that same thing every morning.
It sounds silly and can be confusing, but the system absolutely works. Make a promise, keep the promise, one day at a time. Everyone in that group will be within a few days quit of you and will be able to help drag you through.
Reach out of I can help.
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hi
this is srk
i used to dip indian tubacco called miraz
i have just quitted from 30 day
i have numbness and tingling in my mouth in chick and in tith
also
and also have pain in my jaw bt it is not countinues bt at only some time is this happend ??
Pain is a normal side effect of quitting. It's most likely that it's nothing serious and will go away. That being said, a trip to the dentist might be a good idea, just to make sure. This should also help with any anxiety you might have about long term damage.
But what you're describing is very common and should pass.
I'd encourage you to find your quit group and start posting there, you will find instructions on that in my previous post.
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I've been chewing for three years, about 2 cans a week. I know this is unhealthy, but i hear so many people say oh thats nothing I'm doing a can a day or a can and a half a day. Sometimes ill go a few days without dipping, but mostly its 2 or 3 dips a day. I have certain triggers to dip such as fishing, golf, or studying. I'm planning on quitting in about a week because i am moving to a city where dip is about double or triple the cost i pay now. I also want to rid myself of a habit that most find disgusting. I never feel any withdrawal side effects when i stop for three days or so but i always get that urge to do it after about 72 hours off of it. When i quit what are some ways to combat that urge. Fake alternatives don't do much for me, and the reason i do it is for that relaxing side effect. Any advice would be appreciated.
When you start may I suggest that you get all of the can(s) out of your house before you go to bed. Any I mean every little bit must be gone. Make sure every can is empty!
If you can go 72 hours without a craving you are doing good, when you get that craving remind yourself how bad it is for you. Look up some of the ingredients and the side effects, check out some of the experiences other members have had. Also you might want to try Sunflower Seeds.
The one thing I have to say is the peps here have been though it and will help you out!
btw - The fake alternatives never did anything for me either, except bring on a trigger.
Good Luck
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Hey guys, Im new to this site. I started dipping 11 years ago. Im 27. When I was in the military the addiction got stronger. I recently tried to stop dipping. During the day I have been good at controlling the urges, but the minute I have a beer or two the impulse to dip is too strong. does anyone have any suggestions. Does the fake dip work? thanks for the help. I need to quit this shit. Not worth it.
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Hey guys, Im new to this site. I started dipping 11 years ago. Im 27. When I was in the military the addiction got stronger. I recently tried to stop dipping. During the day I have been good at controlling the urges, but the minute I have a beer or two the impulse to dip is too strong. does anyone have any suggestions. Does the fake dip work? thanks for the help. I need to quit this shit. Not worth it.
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Hey guys, Im new to this site. I started dipping 11 years ago. Im 27. When I was in the military the addiction got stronger. I recently tried to stop dipping. During the day I have been good at controlling the urges, but the minute I have a beer or two the impulse to dip is too strong. does anyone have any suggestions. Does the fake dip work? thanks for the help. I need to quit this shit. Not worth it.
I'm a huge proponent of the fake stuff... it literally saved my quite, and I dare say my life.
There are some here that will tell you it's too close to the real thing and that's a valid point as well. You'll have to determine for yourself if it's a help or a hindrance. Hopefully it'll help you get past those craves.
If drinking / craving is an issue, I'd STRONGLY suggest you lay off the sauce until you've got some legs under your quit. I can't being to tell you how many cave stories have started with, "I was having a few drinks with my buddies..."
If you're looking for some fakes check out this page: www.killthecan.org/fakedip (http://www.killthecan.org/fakedip)
If there's a specific brand or flavor you're looking to emulate let us know and we'll point you in the right direction.
Chewie
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Hey guys, Im new to this site. I started dipping 11 years ago. Im 27. When I was in the military the addiction got stronger. I recently tried to stop dipping. During the day I have been good at controlling the urges, but the minute I have a beer or two the impulse to dip is too strong. does anyone have any suggestions. Does the fake dip work? thanks for the help. I need to quit this shit. Not worth it.
but the minute I have a beer or two the impulse to dip is too strong
I think you kind of got to the heart of it right there. If you truly want to quit, you're going to have to make some very real life changes and sacrifices - especially early on. Addiction changes your brain chemistry. To overcome addiction, you're going to have to retrain your brain and that will be extremely difficult.
You need to decide how much you really want to be quit.
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day 20,fog finally starting to thin out.i was having some rough days,so ive got this far and dont want to go through that misery again.
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Hey fellas,
I'm on day 9 here. I'm a hockey player and have been dipping for about 5-6 years now. I try quitting almost every summer but as soon as the season rolls around again I always find myself getting back into it. I don't think I ever wanted to truly quit before, just kind of hoped to kick the habit. It's always hard when teammates around me have a tin and ask if I want one. I've been doing pretty well so far, but I have had some troubles sleeping. I would tend to dip while watching tv right before going to bed, so could me quitting possibly be a reason for this? It's not that I have troubles falling asleep I just keep waking up after ~3-4 hours and can't back to bed. Any tips would be greatly appreciated, and if anyone else has experienced this just wondering when this symptom started to fade.
Really appreciate the site, keep on killing the can!
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Hey fellas,
I'm on day 9 here. I'm a hockey player and have been dipping for about 5-6 years now. I try quitting almost every summer but as soon as the season rolls around again I always find myself getting back into it. I don't think I ever wanted to truly quit before, just kind of hoped to kick the habit. It's always hard when teammates around me have a tin and ask if I want one. I've been doing pretty well so far, but I have had some troubles sleeping. I would tend to dip while watching tv right before going to bed, so could me quitting possibly be a reason for this? It's not that I have troubles falling asleep I just keep waking up after ~3-4 hours and can't back to bed. Any tips would be greatly appreciated, and if anyone else has experienced this just wondering when this symptom started to fade.
Really appreciate the site, keep on killing the can!
Welcome and congrats on deciding to quit!
Weird health issues associated with quitting are nearly universal. Everyone goes through some iteration of mouth/ jaw pain, sores, aches, fog, anxiety, etc. Sleep issues are extremely common as well. It's hard to say exactly when they subside, but the worst physical symptoms usually wane after a month or so.
The most important factor in sustained success is your outlook and fortitude. Essentially, why are you quitting? Do you feel like some outside pressure is making you do it, or do you desperately want to be free from your addiction. Right now, for yourself, for good?
If this is about some vague feeling that dipping is bad, or if you're doing it to please someone else, you're about guaranteed to fail. Sorry, but it just is what it is. However, if this is all about you and you are willing to make real life changes and sacrifices, you can quit successfully.
This site can help you do that. At KTC, we make a daily promise to stay nicotine free. We keep that promise and do it again the next day. One day at a time makes it manageable. Forever is overwhelming, so we focus on an achievable goal. If you really want to quit, go to the "quit group" page, find August 17 (Aug because that's when you'll be 100 days clean - it will make sense eventually) and post your day count and promise for today there.
With the tools available here, you can overcome any challenge or trigger - including hockey season.
Let me know if I can help.
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Cant be said any better than that PKY.
After 631 days looking back, all my other quits, all those fake quits: half-hearted, half-assed, pathetic attempts were for everyone but me.
August 15th 2017, I decided to quit for myself and found KTC 2 days later. Today I'm just as vulnerable as i was on August 8 2015, vulnerable to cave, vulnerable to taking a pinch from a friend. B
But now I've built this wall. My wall started with a brick labeled 8-17-17, my first post in my group. Now, my roll posts have built the bricks high, and I can use them for protection, support, brotherhood, helping a newbie, accountability, whatever it may be.
Are you ready to build your wall? Mine is getting taller every day, i mean EDD - one brick at a time
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I've dipped Grizzly Wintergreen pouches on and off for a couple of years. I would dip for a few months, chewing a few pouches a day, then quit for a few months, then go back to dipping. The cycle seems to be endless. My biggest cravings for dip are when I wake up and if I am able to fight my cravings in the morning, I am usually good for the rest of the day.
The pouches have contributed to gum disease, and I want to stop before I become even more addicted and before this nastiness takes a toll on my health.
I am 2 days dip free. It has been a struggle these two days, and my mind is constantly wanting that next dip. But I will not cave. I found this site, looking for help, looking for others who are going through the same thing as myself, going through battles worse then myself. Reading the forums have inspired me to join, have inspired me to fight with everyone else.
Here is to Day 2 and the rest of my days without this trash.
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I've dipped Grizzly Wintergreen pouches on and off for a couple of years. I would dip for a few months, chewing a few pouches a day, then quit for a few months, then go back to dipping. The cycle seems to be endless. My biggest cravings for dip are when I wake up and if I am able to fight my cravings in the morning, I am usually good for the rest of the day.
The pouches have contributed to gum disease, and I want to stop before I become even more addicted and before this nastiness takes a toll on my health.
I am 2 days dip free. It has been a struggle these two days, and my mind is constantly wanting that next dip. But I will not cave. I found this site, looking for help, looking for others who are going through the same thing as myself, going through battles worse then myself. Reading the forums have inspired me to join, have inspired me to fight with everyone else.
Here is to Day 2 and the rest of my days without this trash.
Welcome Steve! Great decision to quit. Using this site can help you succeed.
Find your quit group (August 2017) and introduce yourself there. I've outlined the system here in some previous posts, but let me know if you need some clarification on how KTC works, I'm happy to help.
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I've dipped Grizzly Wintergreen pouches on and off for a couple of years. I would dip for a few months, chewing a few pouches a day, then quit for a few months, then go back to dipping. The cycle seems to be endless. My biggest cravings for dip are when I wake up and if I am able to fight my cravings in the morning, I am usually good for the rest of the day.
The pouches have contributed to gum disease, and I want to stop before I become even more addicted and before this nastiness takes a toll on my health.
I am 2 days dip free. It has been a struggle these two days, and my mind is constantly wanting that next dip. But I will not cave. I found this site, looking for help, looking for others who are going through the same thing as myself, going through battles worse then myself. Reading the forums have inspired me to join, have inspired me to fight with everyone else.
Here is to Day 2 and the rest of my days without this trash.
Welcome Steve! Great decision to quit. Using this site can help you succeed.
Find your quit group (August 2017) and introduce yourself there. I've outlined the system here in some previous posts, but let me know if you need some clarification on how KTC works, I'm happy to help.
Get in there (August 2017) and get to quitting Steve. There is no need to do this on your own. The KTC way is not just to check-in when you're struggling and hope somebody has some magic words for you. The key to why this place works is because you actually invest in your quit. You quit right alongside other quitters in your general quit range and then as a group you can experience the trials and tribulations of defeating nicotine. By forming those bonds, you will create a support system for when you need it, but also accountability so if you start to slip, you can be reigned in before it's too late.
I can't put into words how grateful I am for this place because it quite possible saved my life. It wasn't always meadows and daisies though. It takes hard work. The work was harder than I could have done on my own. I am 95% sure I wouldn't have made it this far without KTC. I bought in. You should too.
King, 670 straight days of giving nic the 'Finger'
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Anyone here ever seen withdrawal symptoms continue for an extended period of time? Like maybe 6 months of withdrawal symptoms? I'm starting to get slightly worried because I am about 6 months out and I am still having a difficult time maintaining my composure. I have not really had this problem throughout adulthood and it has crept into my life pretty much around the same time I quit tobacco. It seems that I am very susceptible to sudden bouts of anger that I regret having after the calm has settled. Just curious if anyone has or is aware of someone who has been affected like this?
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Anyone here ever seen withdrawal symptoms continue for an extended period of time? Like maybe 6 months of withdrawal symptoms? I'm starting to get slightly worried because I am about 6 months out and I am still having a difficult time maintaining my composure. I have not really had this problem throughout adulthood and it has crept into my life pretty much around the same time I quit tobacco. It seems that I am very susceptible to sudden bouts of anger that I regret having after the calm has settled. Just curious if anyone has or is aware of someone who has been affected like this?
Yes, I was one angry SOB for quite some time. You have to learn how to deal with life and life situations all over again. The anger will fade.
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'bang head'
Day 5 of quitting and this is my first post. I suppose I'm cheating a bit, but I've been chewing the nicotine gum, which has helped. I'm only chewing 1 in the morning and then I tough it out until the evening and it helps. Outside of that, I'm productive with brainless tasks, or chores, but I can't focus worth shit on my job.
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'bang head'
Day 5 of quitting and this is my first post. I suppose I'm cheating a bit, but I've been chewing the nicotine gum, which has helped. I'm only chewing 1 in the morning and then I tough it out until the evening and it helps. Outside of that, I'm productive with brainless tasks, or chores, but I can't focus worth shit on my job.
If you are chewing nic gum you are NOT quit!!! Throw that crap away and really quit. Embrace the suck and it will fade in a few days or a week.
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'bang head'
Day 5 of quitting and this is my first post. I suppose I'm cheating a bit, but I've been chewing the nicotine gum, which has helped. I'm only chewing 1 in the morning and then I tough it out until the evening and it helps. Outside of that, I'm productive with brainless tasks, or chores, but I can't focus worth shit on my job.
If you are chewing nic gum you are NOT quit!!! Throw that crap away and really quit. Embrace the suck and it will fade in a few days or a week.
You are just pro-longing the misery!! Throw that crap out!! Cold-turkey is the ONLY way to quit! Get into August and post day 1
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'bang head'
Day 5 of quitting and this is my first post. I suppose I'm cheating a bit, but I've been chewing the nicotine gum, which has helped. I'm only chewing 1 in the morning and then I tough it out until the evening and it helps. Outside of that, I'm productive with brainless tasks, or chores, but I can't focus worth shit on my job.
If you are chewing nic gum you are NOT quit!!! Throw that crap away and really quit. Embrace the suck and it will fade in a few days or a week.
You are just pro-longing the misery!! Throw that crap out!! Cold-turkey is the ONLY way to quit! Get into August and post day 1
Aggie, one way to look at it is that you are not addicted to dip - you are addicted to nicotine. So every time you use the nicotine gum, you are keeping the addiction alive. If you kept that pattern up - you would have to "tough it out" every day...forever. Doesn't sound like a plan, right? The key to breaking the addiction is to get the poison out of your system once and for all and then letting your brain and body rewire itself and heal. The only way to do that is to keep nicotine out of your body. For good. Just one day at a time.
The fog is real. And it takes a while to gain back your focus. I had real issues with it, too. Most everyone does. But if you really want to be free from this poison (and let me tell you - the freedom is wonderful!) you are going to have to start staring down all of this stuff.
But the thing is this: You can do it.
PM me if you need anything.
FLLIP
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Hi all... I'm brand new here, just registered. I'm planning my quit... My last pouch was on Friday 5/12, but for the last few days I have been leaning on the gum. I know that doesn't truly count as quit, so I'm working up the gumption to throw the gum out and check in for day 1. I "stopped" on my own for the better part of last year, 5/9/16 through most of November and gave into my inner voice while scouting deer before Thanksgiving. Since that time, I've been dipping... Also, I've turned 40, I've been re-married, lost my father to Pulmonary Fibrosis, and been through some other very trying times in life... but I need to get rid of the tobacco/nicotine for good. I'm finally hitting the wall of reality and I want to live the rest of my days focusing on family and not on dip. I really enjoyed the freedom that I had started to find in the later part of last year before I fell off the wagon... want to get back there and keep going. I hope to meet a couple or more fellow quitters and get through this thing together, so please drop some thoughts on a reply. Although I've been through these first days before, I am again excited about possibilities that come with being free from dip!
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Hi all... I'm brand new here, just registered. I'm planning my quit... My last pouch was on Friday 5/12, but for the last few days I have been leaning on the gum. I know that doesn't truly count as quit, so I'm working up the gumption to throw the gum out and check in for day 1. I "stopped" on my own for the better part of last year, 5/9/16 through most of November and gave into my inner voice while scouting deer before Thanksgiving. Since that time, I've been dipping... Also, I've turned 40, I've been re-married, lost my father to Pulmonary Fibrosis, and been through some other very trying times in life... but I need to get rid of the tobacco/nicotine for good. I'm finally hitting the wall of reality and I want to live the rest of my days focusing on family and not on dip. I really enjoyed the freedom that I had started to find in the later part of last year before I fell off the wagon... want to get back there and keep going. I hope to meet a couple or more fellow quitters and get through this thing together, so please drop some thoughts on a reply. Although I've been through these first days before, I am again excited about possibilities that come with being free from dip!
don't plan, do. flush the gum. Join the August 2017 quit group.
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Hi all... I'm brand new here, just registered. I'm planning my quit... My last pouch was on Friday 5/12, but for the last few days I have been leaning on the gum. I know that doesn't truly count as quit, so I'm working up the gumption to throw the gum out and check in for day 1. I "stopped" on my own for the better part of last year, 5/9/16 through most of November and gave into my inner voice while scouting deer before Thanksgiving. Since that time, I've been dipping... Also, I've turned 40, I've been re-married, lost my father to Pulmonary Fibrosis, and been through some other very trying times in life... but I need to get rid of the tobacco/nicotine for good. I'm finally hitting the wall of reality and I want to live the rest of my days focusing on family and not on dip. I really enjoyed the freedom that I had started to find in the later part of last year before I fell off the wagon... want to get back there and keep going. I hope to meet a couple or more fellow quitters and get through this thing together, so please drop some thoughts on a reply. Although I've been through these first days before, I am again excited about possibilities that come with being free from dip!
don't plan, do. flush the gum. Join the August 2017 quit group.
Don, you can do this man. Join up with the August 16 HOF group and meet a whole bunch of other quitters going through the same damn thing. The tools are all here, you just need to be willing to use them!
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Hi all... I'm brand new here, just registered. I'm planning my quit... My last pouch was on Friday 5/12, but for the last few days I have been leaning on the gum. I know that doesn't truly count as quit, so I'm working up the gumption to throw the gum out and check in for day 1. I "stopped" on my own for the better part of last year, 5/9/16 through most of November and gave into my inner voice while scouting deer before Thanksgiving. Since that time, I've been dipping... Also, I've turned 40, I've been re-married, lost my father to Pulmonary Fibrosis, and been through some other very trying times in life... but I need to get rid of the tobacco/nicotine for good. I'm finally hitting the wall of reality and I want to live the rest of my days focusing on family and not on dip. I really enjoyed the freedom that I had started to find in the later part of last year before I fell off the wagon... want to get back there and keep going. I hope to meet a couple or more fellow quitters and get through this thing together, so please drop some thoughts on a reply. Although I've been through these first days before, I am again excited about possibilities that come with being free from dip!
don't plan, do. flush the gum. Join the August 2017 quit group.
Don, you can do this man. Join up with the August 16 HOF group and meet a whole bunch of other quitters going through the same damn thing. The tools are all here, you just need to be willing to use them!
Fair enough... I found the Aug 17 forum topic and set my browser default. 5/17/17 has a nice kind of sound for a quit day. (Don't plan, do... reminded me of Yoda quote... Try not! Do, or do not. There is no try.) Swear I'm not a Star Wars freak, but that's some damn good advice.
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I am on day 43 of quitting and it hasn't really gotten any easier for me. I purchased a can of cope 2 days ago ( I still haven't opened it). I'm really close to caving in, I could use some motivation if anyone is out there. Thanks, Joe.
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I am on day 43 of quitting and it hasn't really gotten any easier for me. I purchased a can of cope 2 days ago ( I still haven't opened it). I'm really close to caving in, I could use some motivation if anyone is out there. Thanks, Joe.
Hell NO!! Flush that shit right now Joe! She never gave anything to you, she only took from you!! Click on the LIVE CHAT icon, we can help you real time.
Click Here (http://chat.killthecan.org/)
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I am on day 43 of quitting and it hasn't really gotten any easier for me. I purchased a can of cope 2 days ago ( I still haven't opened it). I'm really close to caving in, I could use some motivation if anyone is out there. Thanks, Joe.
Hell NO!! Flush that shit right now Joe! She never gave anything to you, she only took from you!! Click on the LIVE CHAT icon, we can help you real time.
Click Here (http://chat.killthecan.org/)
Joe - I hope that you haven't thrown away your 43 days!
Help me understand, why would you make this post asking for help and then not check in to see if anyone responded? All the help in the world is right here, we can help keep you quit. Trust me man, that 40 day mark can be brutal, but it gets so much better, and quicker than you know.
Don't throw away your progress, that can is absolutely not worth your freedom.
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I am on day 43 of quitting and it hasn't really gotten any easier for me. I purchased a can of cope 2 days ago ( I still haven't opened it). I'm really close to caving in, I could use some motivation if anyone is out there. Thanks, Joe.
Hell NO!! Flush that shit right now Joe! She never gave anything to you, she only took from you!! Click on the LIVE CHAT icon, we can help you real time.
Click Here (http://chat.killthecan.org/)
Hey, how about googling an image of mouth cancer caused by tobacco. print it, cut it out, keep it in your wallet. One's been in my wallet for 641 days. Flush that shit is right, you're an addict, So am I, so is PMILS. But the difference between us and you Joe- we're not slaves to the can anymore. KTC has set us free.
So flush that shit, join a quit group here, be a leader, get active, exchange phone numbers with others in your group and get some accountability, and brotherhood, they will lead to success. 30,000 member strong baby!
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'bang head'
Day 5 of quitting and this is my first post. I suppose I'm cheating a bit, but I've been chewing the nicotine gum, which has helped. I'm only chewing 1 in the morning and then I tough it out until the evening and it helps. Outside of that, I'm productive with brainless tasks, or chores, but I can't focus worth shit on my job.
If you are chewing nic gum you are NOT quit!!! Throw that crap away and really quit. Embrace the suck and it will fade in a few days or a week.
You are just pro-longing the misery!! Throw that crap out!! Cold-turkey is the ONLY way to quit! Get into August and post day 1
Aggie, one way to look at it is that you are not addicted to dip - you are addicted to nicotine. So every time you use the nicotine gum, you are keeping the addiction alive. If you kept that pattern up - you would have to "tough it out" every day...forever. Doesn't sound like a plan, right? The key to breaking the addiction is to get the poison out of your system once and for all and then letting your brain and body rewire itself and heal. The only way to do that is to keep nicotine out of your body. For good. Just one day at a time.
The fog is real. And it takes a while to gain back your focus. I had real issues with it, too. Most everyone does. But if you really want to be free from this poison (and let me tell you - the freedom is wonderful!) you are going to have to start staring down all of this stuff.
But the thing is this: You can do it.
PM me if you need anything.
FLLIP
OK, Now I'm day 2 of quitting the gum. I quit dip on 5/10. stay tuned, but I've been keeping myself busy. So far so good.
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'bang head'
Day 5 of quitting and this is my first post. I suppose I'm cheating a bit, but I've been chewing the nicotine gum, which has helped. I'm only chewing 1 in the morning and then I tough it out until the evening and it helps. Outside of that, I'm productive with brainless tasks, or chores, but I can't focus worth shit on my job.
If you are chewing nic gum you are NOT quit!!! Throw that crap away and really quit. Embrace the suck and it will fade in a few days or a week.
You are just pro-longing the misery!! Throw that crap out!! Cold-turkey is the ONLY way to quit! Get into August and post day 1
Aggie, one way to look at it is that you are not addicted to dip - you are addicted to nicotine. So every time you use the nicotine gum, you are keeping the addiction alive. If you kept that pattern up - you would have to "tough it out" every day...forever. Doesn't sound like a plan, right? The key to breaking the addiction is to get the poison out of your system once and for all and then letting your brain and body rewire itself and heal. The only way to do that is to keep nicotine out of your body. For good. Just one day at a time.
The fog is real. And it takes a while to gain back your focus. I had real issues with it, too. Most everyone does. But if you really want to be free from this poison (and let me tell you - the freedom is wonderful!) you are going to have to start staring down all of this stuff.
But the thing is this: You can do it.
PM me if you need anything.
FLLIP
OK, Now I'm day 2 of quitting the gum. I quit dip on 5/10. stay tuned, but I've been keeping myself busy. So far so good.
Congrats on your second day of quitting!!
Head over to August 2017 group, these folks are going through the same thing as you are!! And we've all been through this before
August 2017 (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30223454/223/#new)
find the roll page, post your name and your promise to not use nicotine today! Then sit back and enjoy the freedom!! And drink lots of water!
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I am on day 43 of quitting and it hasn't really gotten any easier for me. I purchased a can of cope 2 days ago ( I still haven't opened it). I'm really close to caving in, I could use some motivation if anyone is out there. Thanks, Joe.
Hell NO!! Flush that shit right now Joe! She never gave anything to you, she only took from you!! Click on the LIVE CHAT icon, we can help you real time.
Click Here (http://chat.killthecan.org/)
Joe - I hope that you haven't thrown away your 43 days!
Help me understand, why would you make this post asking for help and then not check in to see if anyone responded? All the help in the world is right here, we can help keep you quit. Trust me man, that 40 day mark can be brutal, but it gets so much better, and quicker than you know.
Don't throw away your progress, that can is absolutely not worth your freedom.
Thanks everyone, proud to report I'm at day 44 now without chew. The can is sitting in my desk at home, I will flush it when I'm done at work. Thanks for the support.
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Hey guys, just checking in. 9 months going strong! Proud of myself but I do still have some questions for some experienced quitters. At 9 months in, is unheard of to have pain in my lip and gum still? No lumps, no white spots, no more recession, just pain. Especially when I agitate it with seeds or something else. Should I worry? Or part of the healing still?
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Hey guys, just checking in. 9 months going strong! Proud of myself but I do still have some questions for some experienced quitters. At 9 months in, is unheard of to have pain in my lip and gum still? No lumps, no white spots, no more recession, just pain. Especially when I agitate it with seeds or something else. Should I worry? Or part of the healing still?
Hey lowell-
First, stoked you are quit for 9 months.
Second, "check-ins" and status updates are more common on BookFace. You should consider posting your daily promise not to use nicotine with your quit brethren in November 16 (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11721588/183/?x=90#new). You will get a hell of a lot more support if you engage with others like you, and utilize all this site has to offer.
Third, you are probably still healing, continue to go see your dentist or doctor for your health issues.
Quit on
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If folks are here and on the fence about posting roll let me just say that the system here works. Jump in and get involved and you may wonder why you waited so long to do so. :)
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If folks are here and on the fence about posting roll let me just say that the system here works. Jump in and get involved and you may wonder why you waited so long to do so. :)
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Dude knows what he's talking about. Get in here folks... you'll be glad you did. Freedom is an amazing thing.
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If folks are here and on the fence about posting roll let me just say that the system here works. Jump in and get involved and you may wonder why you waited so long to do so. :)
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Dude knows what he's talking about. Get in here folks... you'll be glad you did. Freedom is an amazing thing.
How the heck does the system work when there isn't a new quit group past Dec of 2016? I looked here a week ago. I know from past experience the oral fixation is as bad if not worse than the nicotine for me so I bout 20 cans of "other". QUit today when they got here...
So far I am significantly not happy.
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If folks are here and on the fence about posting roll let me just say that the system here works. Jump in and get involved and you may wonder why you waited so long to do so. :)
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Dude knows what he's talking about. Get in here folks... you'll be glad you did. Freedom is an amazing thing.
How the heck does the system work when there isn't a new quit group past Dec of 2016? I looked here a week ago. I know from past experience the oral fixation is as bad if not worse than the nicotine for me so I bout 20 cans of "other". QUit today when they got here...
So far I am significantly not happy.
Not sure where you're looking where you don't see any 2017 groups. Try Community/Quit Groups (http://http//forum.killthecan.org/forum/55566)
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scroll the mouse down D Dog, you'll see the quit groups
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Yep... they're there... just down below.
https://www.killthecan.org/where-are-th ... it-groups/ (https://www.killthecan.org/where-are-the-new-quit-groups/)
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Proposed FDA rule worries Kentucky tobacco growers
By JORDAN STRICKLER
Kentucky Correspondent
LEXINGTON, Ky. — The attempts of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to limit N-nitrosonornicotine (NNN) in smokeless tobacco products is causing concern to the tobacco industry.
NNN, a class of carcinogens known as tobacco-specified nitrosamines, is labeled as a harmful or potentially harmful constituent in tobacco products by the FDA. Proposed guidelines would limit the levels of NNN to 1 microgram per gram, or one part per million (ppm) at any point through the productÂ’s labeled expiration date.
This would be especially harmful to those growers who raise dark fire-cured tobacco, the primary type used for smokeless tobacco in the United States, as that crop tends to have more NNN by way of the crop itself and the way in which it is processed.
With most smokeless tobacco products containing NNN of between 1.5-5 ppm, and with the majority of products around 3 ppm or higher, the proposed limit of 1 ppm is concerning especially producers in Kentucky, where 90 percent of the tobacco grown is dark fire-cured. The state led the nation in production of dark fire-cured and dark air-cured tobacco in 2015, at 31.7 million and 13.75 million pounds, respectively.
According to the USDA, dark tobacco production in the U.S. totals approximately 24,000 acres, with a cash value of $173 million per year
Originally, the FDA planned to accept public comments on the proposed standard until April 10; however, that was extended for an additional 90 days, to July 10, to allow more time to compile comments from the public.
“Hopefully this legislation doesn’t pass, because this will have an immediate effect on growers,” said University of Kentucky dark tobacco extension specialist Andy Bailey. “As it stands, it would have an enormous effect on dark-cured tobacco.” Changes in NNN can be caused by a number of different factors and they can vary significantly from year to year. Although tobacco plants produce a small amount of NNN, a wide variety of factors can affect the final levels of NNN found in finished tobacco products.
These factors, which can either increase or decrease NNN levels, include the tobacco type, growing conditions (e.g. geographic region, climate, rainfall), curing techniques (e.g. fire, flue, air, sun), production processes and storage conditions.
“We’re growing about 16,000 acres of dark cured tobacco and about 8,000 acres of air-cured,” said Bailey. “It’s about a $190 million crop. If this legislation went through, in the worst case, we wouldn’t have a market for 90 percent of our dark fire-cured tobacco.
“It would have a major, major impact. We have about 1,800 tobacco growers; probably 1,400 are growing dark-fire cured tobacco.”
The standard stems from the Swedish Snus, which is able to achieve the limit. The problem with that, Bailey explained, is that it is comparing apples to oranges.
“The Swedish Snus products don’t contain the same type of tobacco. Of the 15 or so products which the FDA reviewed, two were Swedish Snus and one was a loose-leaf tobacco product, which is different than the type used in most snuff in the U.S.
“Those three had less than 1 part per million,” he said. The FDA expects the rule to generate anywhere from $228.6 million-$2.46 billion in benefits by preventing an estimated 12,7000 new cases of oral cancer and approximately 2,2000 oral cancer deaths. It is also expected to cost the tobacco industry anywhere from $17.91 million-$42.72 million a year over the next 20 years to comply with the rule.
“The whole idea with the FDA is they wanted the NNN levels to be 1 part per million in the finished product, and with the current technology and the current recipes with these moist smokeless products, there is no way to meet them,” said Joe Cain, director, Commodity Division, Kentucky Farm Bureau. “There is no way to meet those levels right now without changing the formulation.
“Right now, it’s about 70 percent fire cured and about 30 percent air-cured. You would have to reverse those formulations and most likely, it would be a product that people wouldn’t buy; it wouldn’t be a commercially accepted product.”
U.S. Rep. James Comer (R-Ky.), former agriculture commissioner of the Bluegrass State, urged the new presidential administration to withdraw the rule. “If finalized, (the rule) will have a devastating economic impact to the farmers and communities in my district,” he said in a letter to President Trump. “FDA’s proposed rule would require a standard … that is technically unachievable.
“Under the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act, any tobacco product standard established by the FDA must be technically achievable and consider the economic impact to domestic tobacco farmers and tobacco manufacturers.
Agronomic variability, including relative humidity during curing, is the largest contributor to tobacco-specific nitrosamines, including NNN, in tobacco on the farm.
“Because tobacco farmers cannot control changes in the weather, it is not achievable to meet the 1 ppm standard on an annual basis,” he added. “It would be almost impossible for them to continue that if this rule goes into effect,” noted Cain. “This is a really, really devastating standard they would have to meet. Producing tobacco more than just a recipe. This is a tradition that has been handed down for decades.
5/25/2017
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Going on day 2 of quitting and after reading everything it's going to be rough. Already going through extreme depression after loosing the woman I was proposing too. To make things worse I take adderol at work to help focus but it makes me crave dip so I want to get off that. So now I have to deal with the Fog, and im getting hit with more lack of concentration from not taking medicine. Add the loss of my love and this is gut wrentching. I can't focus at work or sleep. Maybe this isn't best time to quit?
guessing he didn't quit? what group is he with, anybody reach out to this guy?
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Going on day 2 of quitting and after reading everything it's going to be rough. Already going through extreme depression after loosing the woman I was proposing too. To make things worse I take adderol at work to help focus but it makes me crave dip so I want to get off that. So now I have to deal with the Fog, and im getting hit with more lack of concentration from not taking medicine. Add the loss of my love and this is gut wrentching. I can't focus at work or sleep. Maybe this isn't best time to quit?
guessing he didn't quit? what group is he with, anybody reach out to this guy?
It's kind of a weird phenomenon, but many of the people who post on the General Discussion board never make it to a quit group. If you scroll through the pages you'll see tons of people who come in and ask a question or make a post and then never even check back in.
I and several others make an effort to reach out to these folks, but it often ends up being a waste of time. The fact is, you can't quit for someone else. If someone can't invest enough in their quit to figure out how this works, they just aren't ready.
It is important to keep trying. Even though many of these goobers never sign in to see your response, you never know who you might actually help. Feel free to reach out to that guy. You can send him an email through the system. Remind him that he wanted to quit and KTC is here if he's ready to do it for real.
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I am looking for a support group so if you would like to be part of this pm me and we can figure out how to help eachother
thanks a lot
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I am looking for a support group so if you would like to be part of this pm me and we can figure out how to help eachother
thanks a lot
The way this works is you mosey on over to September 2017 (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30249720/). That's your quit group. Find the most recent roll post, read the instructions, and post your first day.
From there get to know the folks in your group and those helping out your group. After that it's all about making a promise every day, brotherhood and accountability.
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Going on day 2 of quitting and after reading everything it's going to be rough. Already going through extreme depression after loosing the woman I was proposing too. To make things worse I take adderol at work to help focus but it makes me crave dip so I want to get off that. So now I have to deal with the Fog, and im getting hit with more lack of concentration from not taking medicine. Add the loss of my love and this is gut wrentching. I can't focus at work or sleep. Maybe this isn't best time to quit?
guessing he didn't quit? what group is he with, anybody reach out to this guy?
It's kind of a weird phenomenon, but many of the people who post on the General Discussion board never make it to a quit group. If you scroll through the pages you'll see tons of people who come in and ask a question or make a post and then never even check back in.
I and several others make an effort to reach out to these folks, but it often ends up being a waste of time. The fact is, you can't quit for someone else. If someone can't invest enough in their quit to figure out how this works, they just aren't ready.
It is important to keep trying. Even though many of these goobers never sign in to see your response, you never know who you might actually help. Feel free to reach out to that guy. You can send him an email through the system. Remind him that he wanted to quit and KTC is here if he's ready to do it for real.
Hey guys, FF actually did join a group and just recently hit 100 days.
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Going on day 2 of quitting and after reading everything it's going to be rough. Already going through extreme depression after loosing the woman I was proposing too. To make things worse I take adderol at work to help focus but it makes me crave dip so I want to get off that. So now I have to deal with the Fog, and im getting hit with more lack of concentration from not taking medicine. Add the loss of my love and this is gut wrentching. I can't focus at work or sleep. Maybe this isn't best time to quit?
guessing he didn't quit? what group is he with, anybody reach out to this guy?
It's kind of a weird phenomenon, but many of the people who post on the General Discussion board never make it to a quit group. If you scroll through the pages you'll see tons of people who come in and ask a question or make a post and then never even check back in.
I and several others make an effort to reach out to these folks, but it often ends up being a waste of time. The fact is, you can't quit for someone else. If someone can't invest enough in their quit to figure out how this works, they just aren't ready.
It is important to keep trying. Even though many of these goobers never sign in to see your response, you never know who you might actually help. Feel free to reach out to that guy. You can send him an email through the system. Remind him that he wanted to quit and KTC is here if he's ready to do it for real.
Hey guys, FF actually did join a group and just recently hit 100 days.
Crap. Scratch that. Misread it.
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Browsing the web this afternoon and found this. I've not seen it anywhere here on KTC and thought it appropriate to our endeavor.
https://www.theplayerstribune.com/curt- ... nger-self/ (https://www.theplayerstribune.com/curt-schilling-letter-to-my-younger-self/)
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Browsing the web this afternoon and found this. I've not seen it anywhere here on KTC and thought it appropriate to our endeavor.
https://www.theplayerstribune.com/curt- ... nger-self/ (https://www.theplayerstribune.com/curt-schilling-letter-to-my-younger-self/)
Killer read, thanks Larry
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Browsing the web this afternoon and found this. I've not seen it anywhere here on KTC and thought it appropriate to our endeavor.
https://www.theplayerstribune.com/curt- ... nger-self/ (https://www.theplayerstribune.com/curt-schilling-letter-to-my-younger-self/)
Killer read, thanks Larry
Wow, fantastic read. It was like reading my thoughts
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For any of you lurkers, first timers or those not sure about quitting reading general discussion, let me just pass alone the great feeling I get when I see someone who lurks, finally dive into KTC, post roll call and get into a group.
Following and encouraging a new quitter REALLLLLLY helps my quit every day. The feeling I get when I see a newbie WINNING is just as good and sometimes better than my own quit!
Closest I can describe it is that when I see a newbie Ive been following start kicking Nicotine to the curb, get themselves into the 100 day HOF, its almost like I am hitting the HOF myself!
God, I love this place and the quitters therein!
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3 days in and getting brutal BRUTAL hives. No change in job and/or stress level, no change in diet, just nicotine. Was on nicorette Jan-March, March was a JRTC rotation (military) so jumped back on the train, May was another rotation started dipping again. Tapered off again last week and then outright stopped w/o any nicotine gum as my goal was to quit by December '17 (getting married) and I could see I was just getting addicted to the nicorette.
I've never gone through a cold turkey approach, are hives possible and/or a side effect? All over chest, back, upper arms, behind the knees. Or am I dying.... Job is just as stressful as it's always been so no change. Headaches and the like were expected but this is an interesting new twist.
Thanks!
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Browsing the web this afternoon and found this. I've not seen it anywhere here on KTC and thought it appropriate to our endeavor.
https://www.theplayerstribune.com/curt- ... nger-self/ (https://www.theplayerstribune.com/curt-schilling-letter-to-my-younger-self/)
Killer read, thanks Larry
Wow, fantastic read. It was like reading my thoughts
I never really liked Curt Shilling, but THAT was a powerful read. I always found him to be a tremendous asshole and undeservedly cocky. Now he sounds like us in our "grief" stage of quitting. This shit really beat him down. And now I love him. I hope my son reads that article one day. Thanks for posting that.
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Browsing the web this afternoon and found this. I've not seen it anywhere here on KTC and thought it appropriate to our endeavor.
https://www.theplayerstribune.com/curt- ... nger-self/ (https://www.theplayerstribune.com/curt-schilling-letter-to-my-younger-self/)
Killer read, thanks Larry
Wow, fantastic read. It was like reading my thoughts
I never really liked Curt Shilling, but THAT was a powerful read. I always found him to be a tremendous asshole and undeservedly cocky. Now he sounds like us in our "grief" stage of quitting. This shit really beat him down. And now I love him. I hope my son reads that article one day. Thanks for posting that.
Good stuff!
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Does anyone use the app DIPQUIT it tracks how many dips you haven't dipped how many tins you haven't used and how much money you have saved it is pretty interesting to see how much money I have wasted on this poison
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Does anyone use the app DIPQUIT it tracks how many dips you haven't dipped how many tins you haven't used and how much money you have saved it is pretty interesting to see how much money I have wasted on this poison
For non-app folks there's also the KTC Quit Calculator (https://www.killthecan.org/calculators/).
Never ceases to impress me just how much time and money I was throwing away just to keep my face stuffed with cat turds.
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Hey all...
Day 43 for me, here. Long time lurker, first time poster.
My original plan was to order Hooch snuff (which I did) and cut it with long cut Skoal to "gradually" reduce the nicotine (which I did not). After reading the posts here, I decided that cold turkey was the way to go. So on April 30th, I had my last dip at 11:00 PM that night. I don't need to tell anyone who has tried or has quit, that the first week was a bear. After that, it diminishes considerably, or at least it has for me.
I plan to get to 100 days with the help of Hooch for that pack between my cheek and gum, then work on breaking that habit as well.
51 years old, been dipping since I was 13 or so. Skoal, LC Skoal, Hawken, Cope, you name it I've probably dipped it or chewed it (Stokers, King-B twist, more).
Time to give it up. If you are thinking about quitting, commit to it and make today the day. It's hard - if it wasn't everyone would do it. But, *you* can do it, because you are a bad-ass and can overcome this.
-= HotRodRacer =-
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Hey all...
Day 43 for me, here. Long time lurker, first time poster.
My original plan was to order Hooch snuff (which I did) and cut it with long cut Skoal to "gradually" reduce the nicotine (which I did not). After reading the posts here, I decided that cold turkey was the way to go. So on April 30th, I had my last dip at 11:00 PM that night. I don't need to tell anyone who has tried or has quit, that the first week was a bear. After that, it diminishes considerably, or at least it has for me.
I plan to get to 100 days with the help of Hooch for that pack between my cheek and gum, then work on breaking that habit as well.
51 years old, been dipping since I was 13 or so. Skoal, LC Skoal, Hawken, Cope, you name it I've probably dipped it or chewed it (Stokers, King-B twist, more).
Time to give it up. If you are thinking about quitting, commit to it and make today the day. It's hard - if it wasn't everyone would do it. But, *you* can do it, because you are a bad-ass and can overcome this.
-= HotRodRacer =-
Welcome to August HOTROD!!!!
Proud to have you with us! You're a Battlin' Bastard of August.
Tell us a little about yourself? 43 days on your own is a big deal. You've got a support group now. Make sure you exchange digits with these guys. Accountability is key to this site. Plan on posting roll every day, first thing in the morning. We pride ourselves on posting 100% here.
Time to get quit!
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Thanks Fish.
Not really on my own, as I have an *extremely* supportive wife who encourages the heck outta me. :)
What would you like to know?
-= HotRodRacer =-
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Thanks Fish.
Not really on my own, as I have an *extremely* supportive wife who encourages the heck outta me. :)
What would you like to know?
-= HotRodRacer =-
It's great your family is involved in your quit. Most of us were ninja dippers so coming clean was a tough deal.
What are some of the toughest things you're going through? Sleep pattern? Irritable? have you kicked your dog yet?
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It's great your family is involved in your quit. Most of us were ninja dippers so coming clean was a tough deal.
What are some of the toughest things you're going through? Sleep pattern? Irritable? have you kicked your dog yet?
The biggest things was irritability, especially during the first two to three weeks. After that it eased off. I warned my wife about it, and she said she would just not ask me anything of importance for the first 21 days. :) And focusing on tasks at hand without going off on many tangents in my head was (and still is) a tough one, too.
I haven't had any issues with sleep patterns or the soundness of my sleep, or kicking my dog. He would eat my S up and not think twice about it.
One of the toughest things has been that after morning coffee craving when the first dip of the day went it. That is tough to shake, but the Hooch helps with the habit piece, just not the nicotine part. It all gets easier with every day passing.
It took me forever to WANT to quit. Now that I do, no way I'm gonna cave when I am this far in.
-= HotRodRacer =-
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It's great your family is involved in your quit. Most of us were ninja dippers so coming clean was a tough deal.
What are some of the toughest things you're going through? Sleep pattern? Irritable? have you kicked your dog yet?
The biggest things was irritability, especially during the first two to three weeks. After that it eased off. I warned my wife about it, and she said she would just not ask me anything of importance for the first 21 days. :) And focusing on tasks at hand without going off on many tangents in my head was (and still is) a tough one, too.
I haven't had any issues with sleep patterns or the soundness of my sleep, or kicking my dog. He would eat my S up and not think twice about it.
One of the toughest things has been that after morning coffee craving when the first dip of the day went it. That is tough to shake, but the Hooch helps with the habit piece, just not the nicotine part. It all gets easier with every day passing.
It took me forever to WANT to quit. Now that I do, no way I'm gonna cave when I am this far in.
-= HotRodRacer =-
Oh yeah. Especially when you've had a good day and you go out to eat and have a nice big meal. I always want one really bad after eating a big meal. Physical and psychological withdrawals ensue after that. Just gotta take it one moment at a time I suppose.
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It's great your family is involved in your quit. Most of us were ninja dippers so coming clean was a tough deal.
What are some of the toughest things you're going through? Sleep pattern? Irritable? have you kicked your dog yet?
The biggest things was irritability, especially during the first two to three weeks. After that it eased off. I warned my wife about it, and she said she would just not ask me anything of importance for the first 21 days. :) And focusing on tasks at hand without going off on many tangents in my head was (and still is) a tough one, too.
I haven't had any issues with sleep patterns or the soundness of my sleep, or kicking my dog. He would eat my S up and not think twice about it.
One of the toughest things has been that after morning coffee craving when the first dip of the day went it. That is tough to shake, but the Hooch helps with the habit piece, just not the nicotine part. It all gets easier with every day passing.
It took me forever to WANT to quit. Now that I do, no way I'm gonna cave when I am this far in.
-= HotRodRacer =-
Oh yeah. Especially when you've had a good day and you go out to eat and have a nice big meal. I always want one really bad after eating a big meal. Physical and psychological withdrawals ensue after that. Just gotta take it one moment at a time I suppose.
Man, it wasn't so much after a meal for me but total association with activities: golf, playing music, yardwork, painting, driving.
so happy to be free of that monkey after 668 days. Just as susceptible to a cave today as on Day 1. but I have tools, brotherhood, accountability, and a network of people who check on each other.
Keep you quit(s) up gents! It gets wonderfully better EDD
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It's great your family is involved in your quit. Most of us were ninja dippers so coming clean was a tough deal.
What are some of the toughest things you're going through? Sleep pattern? Irritable? have you kicked your dog yet?
The biggest things was irritability, especially during the first two to three weeks. After that it eased off. I warned my wife about it, and she said she would just not ask me anything of importance for the first 21 days. :) And focusing on tasks at hand without going off on many tangents in my head was (and still is) a tough one, too.
I haven't had any issues with sleep patterns or the soundness of my sleep, or kicking my dog. He would eat my S up and not think twice about it.
One of the toughest things has been that after morning coffee craving when the first dip of the day went it. That is tough to shake, but the Hooch helps with the habit piece, just not the nicotine part. It all gets easier with every day passing.
It took me forever to WANT to quit. Now that I do, no way I'm gonna cave when I am this far in.
-= HotRodRacer =-
Oh yeah. Especially when you've had a good day and you go out to eat and have a nice big meal. I always want one really bad after eating a big meal. Physical and psychological withdrawals ensue after that. Just gotta take it one moment at a time I suppose.
Man, it wasn't so much after a meal for me but total association with activities: golf, playing music, yardwork, painting, driving.
so happy to be free of that monkey after 668 days. Just as susceptible to a cave today as on Day 1. but I have tools, brotherhood, accountability, and a network of people who check on each other.
Keep you quit(s) up gents! It gets wonderfully better EDD
yep... those triggers, specifically seasonal or activity oriented ones can be brutal.
recognizing them is a HUGE first step.
here's an outstanding article my remshot that talks about them: https://www.killthecan.org/facts-figure ... s-hunting/ (https://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/seasonal-triggers-hunting/)
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Check out the newest video on our YouTube channel!
Newbie Questions at KillTheCan.org
https://www.killthecan.org/newbie-quest ... hecan-org/ (https://www.killthecan.org/newbie-questions-at-killthecan-org/)
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Check out the newest video on our YouTube channel!
Newbie Questions at KillTheCan.org
https://www.killthecan.org/newbie-quest ... hecan-org/ (https://www.killthecan.org/newbie-questions-at-killthecan-org/)
LULZ, that is really good.
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Check out the newest video on our YouTube channel!
Newbie Questions at KillTheCan.org
https://www.killthecan.org/newbie-quest ... hecan-org/ (https://www.killthecan.org/newbie-questions-at-killthecan-org/)
that was great I was thinking of making some review videos of the alternatives that I use
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They most definitely can be very tempting. I get the idea of getting a dip when I go and visit an outside or surrounding city and have to drive for say 30 minutes or more. Also, playing the guitar and even talking about certain topics. Working on a car is the absolute most tempting time for me! Especially when I get done, afterwards I get the urge sometimes strong.
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Hey guys, I've been dipping on and off since college and it is about time to set the tin down. I've quit a 1000 times and know how to deal with withdrawal my problem has always been staying quit and dealing with triggers. It's day two and counting.
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Hey guys, I've been dipping on and off since college and it is about time to set the tin down. I've quit a 1000 times and know how to deal with withdrawal my problem has always been staying quit and dealing with triggers. It's day two and counting.
Nice going JC. Good choice. I was just like you 670 days ago. You can do this.
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TODAY IS THE DAY I QUIT forever! It's not gonna be easy but I'm not gonna keep killing myself
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TODAY IS THE DAY I QUIT forever! It's not gonna be easy but I'm not gonna keep killing myself
I love the enthusiasm! Do you have a plan for success? This site can help you develop that. It's simple, but it's not easy.
Quit one day at a time. Forever is too big. Don't worry about tomorrow, it will get here when it gets here. Make a promise to quit today. Keep that promise and make the same promise tomorrow. You quit for one day, every day.
Check out the Quit Groups. Yours will be September 2017 (September because that's when you'll reach 100 days, considered Hall of Fame at this site). Post Roll, your promise to stay quit today, and get to know the group. Those folks will be there to support you and drag your ass through the suck. It will suck but it will get better. It will get so much better.
Double your water, halve your caffeine and eliminate alcohol for the next few weeks. Buckle up my friend.
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Exactly what pky1520 said. I notice caffeine helps me with the effects of the withdrawals a little bit. I know sooner or later I will have to weed out the soft drinks cause they're so unhealthy but right now I take it as an alright substitute! I think it's awesome that you have made the decision to quit! Many people every day say that are going to, but never actually get around to it. Not you! You are noticing something you want to be done with and doing it! That is a winner right there. Noticing something you don't like in your life and doing something about it is the way to be! This whole community is here for you for those dark times when you really feel like caving. You can do this brother.
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Hey guys, I've been dipping on and off since college and it is about time to set the tin down. I've quit a 1000 times and know how to deal with withdrawal my problem has always been staying quit and dealing with triggers. It's day two and counting.
get into the sept quit group and start posting roll every morning
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Poll Time
I am going to do video reviews of alternatives to dip and post them on YouTube
Which one of the following should be my first video?
The one with most votes gets made by the weekend
Grinds Coffee Pouches :
Black Coffee
Caramel
Vanilla
Cinnamon Roll
Irish Cream
Wintergreen
Peppermint
Mint Chocolate
Mocha
Cowboy Coffee Chew
Teaza Energy Pouches
Black Cherry
Spicy Cinnamon
Smokey Mountain Herbal Snuff
Wintergreen
Straight
Peach
Grape
Herd Sports Chew
Vitalize Wintergreen
Vitalize Mint
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Poll Time
I am going to do video reviews of alternatives to dip and post them on YouTube
Which one of the following should be my first video?
The one with most votes gets made by the weekend
Grinds Coffee Pouches :
Black Coffee
Caramel
Vanilla
Cinnamon Roll
Irish Cream
Wintergreen
Peppermint
Mint Chocolate
Mocha
Cowboy Coffee Chew
Teaza Energy Pouches
Black Cherry
Spicy Cinnamon
Smokey Mountain Herbal Snuff
Wintergreen
Straight
Peach
Grape
Herd Sports Chew
Vitalize Wintergreen
Vitalize Mint
I'd be interested to see what you think of Grinds or Teazea. Never been a pouch guy, but some of the flavors of Grinds in particular look interesting.
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Poll Time
I am going to do video reviews of alternatives to dip and post them on YouTube
Which one of the following should be my first video?
The one with most votes gets made by the weekend
Grinds Coffee Pouches :
Black Coffee
Caramel
Vanilla
Cinnamon Roll
Irish Cream
Wintergreen
Peppermint
Mint Chocolate
Mocha
Cowboy Coffee Chew
Teaza Energy Pouches
Black Cherry
Spicy Cinnamon
Smokey Mountain Herbal Snuff
Wintergreen
Straight
Peach
Grape
Herd Sports Chew
Vitalize Wintergreen
Vitalize Mint
I'd be interested to see what you think of Grinds or Teazea. Never been a pouch guy, but some of the flavors of Grinds in particular look interesting.
Looking forward to them.
Would love to add them to the KTC channel as well (will obviously give you credit).
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Poll Time
I am going to do video reviews of alternatives to dip and post them on YouTube
Which one of the following should be my first video?
The one with most votes gets made by the weekend
Grinds Coffee Pouches :
Black Coffee
Caramel
Vanilla
Cinnamon Roll
Irish Cream
Wintergreen
Peppermint
Mint Chocolate
Mocha
Cowboy Coffee Chew
Teaza Energy Pouches
Black Cherry
Spicy Cinnamon
Smokey Mountain Herbal Snuff
Wintergreen
Straight
Peach
Grape
Herd Sports Chew
Vitalize Wintergreen
Vitalize Mint
I'd be interested to see what you think of Grinds or Teazea. Never been a pouch guy, but some of the flavors of Grinds in particular look interesting.
Looking forward to them.
Would love to add them to the KTC channel as well (will obviously give you credit).
I personally love the Cinnamon Roll flavor of Grinds. I am not a huge cinnamon roll fan, but for some reason that just seems to be the flavor they got the most right.
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Poll Time
I am going to do video reviews of alternatives to dip and post them on YouTube
Which one of the following should be my first video?
The one with most votes gets made by the weekend
Grinds Coffee Pouches :
Black Coffee
Caramel
Vanilla
Cinnamon Roll
Irish Cream
Wintergreen
Peppermint
Mint Chocolate
Mocha
Cowboy Coffee Chew
Teaza Energy Pouches
Black Cherry
Spicy Cinnamon
Smokey Mountain Herbal Snuff
Wintergreen
Straight
Peach
Grape
Herd Sports Chew
Vitalize Wintergreen
Vitalize Mint
I'd be interested to see what you think of Grinds or Teazea. Never been a pouch guy, but some of the flavors of Grinds in particular look interesting.
Looking forward to them.
Would love to add them to the KTC channel as well (will obviously give you credit).
I personally love the Cinnamon Roll flavor of Grinds. I am not a huge cinnamon roll fan, but for some reason that just seems to be the flavor they got the most right.
I've never even heard of "herd" sports chew.
Would like to see those
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Poll Time
I am going to do video reviews of alternatives to dip and post them on YouTube
Which one of the following should be my first video?
The one with most votes gets made by the weekend
Grinds Coffee Pouches :
Black Coffee
Caramel
Vanilla
Cinnamon Roll
Irish Cream
Wintergreen
Peppermint
Mint Chocolate
Mocha
Cowboy Coffee Chew
Teaza Energy Pouches
Black Cherry
Spicy Cinnamon
Smokey Mountain Herbal Snuff
Wintergreen
Straight
Peach
Grape
Herd Sports Chew
Vitalize Wintergreen
Vitalize Mint
I'd be interested to see what you think of Grinds or Teazea. Never been a pouch guy, but some of the flavors of Grinds in particular look interesting.
Looking forward to them.
Would love to add them to the KTC channel as well (will obviously give you credit).
I will send the links
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Poll Time
I am going to do video reviews of alternatives to dip and post them on YouTube
Which one of the following should be my first video?
The one with most votes gets made by the weekend
Grinds Coffee Pouches :
Black Coffee
Caramel
Vanilla
Cinnamon Roll
Irish Cream
Wintergreen
Peppermint
Mint Chocolate
Mocha
Cowboy Coffee Chew
Teaza Energy Pouches
Black Cherry
Spicy Cinnamon
Smokey Mountain Herbal Snuff
Wintergreen
Straight
Peach
Grape
Herd Sports Chew
Vitalize Wintergreen
Vitalize Mint
I'd be interested to see what you think of Grinds or Teazea. Never been a pouch guy, but some of the flavors of Grinds in particular look interesting.
Looking forward to them.
Would love to add them to the KTC channel as well (will obviously give you credit).
I personally love the Cinnamon Roll flavor of Grinds. I am not a huge cinnamon roll fan, but for some reason that just seems to be the flavor they got the most right.
I've never even heard of "herd" sports chew.
Would like to see those
Pretty good - especially the Wintergreen
https://www.killthecan.org/herd-sports-chew-review/ (https://www.killthecan.org/herd-sports-chew-review/)
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Poll Time
I am going to do video reviews of alternatives to dip and post them on YouTube
Which one of the following should be my first video?
The one with most votes gets made by the weekend
Grinds Coffee Pouches :
Black Coffee
Caramel
Vanilla
Cinnamon Roll
Irish Cream
Wintergreen
Peppermint
Mint Chocolate
Mocha
Cowboy Coffee Chew
Teaza Energy Pouches
Black Cherry
Spicy Cinnamon
Smokey Mountain Herbal Snuff
Wintergreen
Straight
Peach
Grape
Herd Sports Chew
Vitalize Wintergreen
Vitalize Mint
I'd be interested to see what you think of Grinds or Teazea. Never been a pouch guy, but some of the flavors of Grinds in particular look interesting.
Looking forward to them.
Would love to add them to the KTC channel as well (will obviously give you credit).
I personally love the Cinnamon Roll flavor of Grinds. I am not a huge cinnamon roll fan, but for some reason that just seems to be the flavor they got the most right.
I've never even heard of "herd" sports chew.
Would like to see those
Pretty good - especially the Wintergreen
https://www.killthecan.org/herd-sports-chew-review/ (https://www.killthecan.org/herd-sports-chew-review/)
Yeah, I was / am a wintergreen guy. Looks like they are out of that. I could go with the Mint, but until I see some Wintergreen I will stick to my SM
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Poll Time
I am going to do video reviews of alternatives to dip and post them on YouTube
Which one of the following should be my first video?
The one with most votes gets made by the weekend
Grinds Coffee Pouches :
Black Coffee
Caramel
Vanilla
Cinnamon Roll
Irish Cream
Wintergreen
Peppermint
Mint Chocolate
Mocha
Cowboy Coffee Chew
Teaza Energy Pouches
Black Cherry
Spicy Cinnamon
Smokey Mountain Herbal Snuff
Wintergreen
Straight
Peach
Grape
Herd Sports Chew
Vitalize Wintergreen
Vitalize Mint
I'd be interested to see what you think of Grinds or Teazea. Never been a pouch guy, but some of the flavors of Grinds in particular look interesting.
Looking forward to them.
Would love to add them to the KTC channel as well (will obviously give you credit).
I personally love the Cinnamon Roll flavor of Grinds. I am not a huge cinnamon roll fan, but for some reason that just seems to be the flavor they got the most right.
I've never even heard of "herd" sports chew.
Would like to see those
Pretty good - especially the Wintergreen
https://www.killthecan.org/herd-sports-chew-review/ (https://www.killthecan.org/herd-sports-chew-review/)
Yeah, I was / am a wintergreen guy. Looks like they are out of that. I could go with the Mint, but until I see some Wintergreen I will stick to my SM
I might have a couple of cans left over... shoot me a pm. Happy to send them your way.
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I really really really want a dip right now. I don't know what it is. The past days haven't been bad at all really. But in this moment I really want it bad. I know I won't though.
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I really really really want a dip right now. I don't know what it is. The past days haven't been bad at all really. But in this moment I really want it bad. I know I won't though.
What day are you on? This is pretty typical thought process. Hang in there man. You're doing what needs to be done.
BE A QUITTER!
Chewie
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I really really really want a dip right now. I don't know what it is. The past days haven't been bad at all really. But in this moment I really want it bad. I know I won't though.
What day are you on? This is pretty typical thought process. Hang in there man. You're doing what needs to be done.
BE A QUITTER!
Chewie
Was on Day 12 I did not cave now I'm on day 13.
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I really really really want a dip right now. I don't know what it is. The past days haven't been bad at all really. But in this moment I really want it bad. I know I won't though.
What day are you on? This is pretty typical thought process. Hang in there man. You're doing what needs to be done.
BE A QUITTER!
Chewie
Was on Day 12 I did not cave now I'm on day 13.
and THAT is now it's done.
day by day my brother. tomorrow is day 14. and it's a good day to be quit.
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I need some advice. As I try to close the door on tobacco, my past caves were a result of not having a good plan to deal with craves. While I know it's the wrong answer, in that selfish moment, I am very unlikely to reach out to anyone for help. I'm not looking for advice such as hydrate, take a walk, etc; I need to mature my mental plan. Posting here everyday regardless of how long I've been quit is a critical action for me and I've written myself a long letter to remind myself of what a cave will do to me if I make that decision.
What other tools can I add to my daily quit arsenal?
How do I close the door to tobacco?
Thank you brothers from other mothers. :'(
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I need some advice. As I try to close the door on tobacco, my past caves were a result of not having a good plan to deal with craves. While I know it's the wrong answer, in that selfish moment, I am very unlikely to reach out to anyone for help. I'm not looking for advice such as hydrate, take a walk, etc; I need to mature my mental plan. Posting here everyday regardless of how long I've been quit is a critical action for me and I've written myself a long letter to remind myself of what a cave will do to me if I make that decision.
What other tools can I add to my daily quit arsenal?
How do I close the door to tobacco?
Thank you brothers from other mothers. :'(
For me, even though I've yet to reach out to anyone in the heat of a crave, just knowing I had friends and brothers I would be letting down kept me honest. That's why it's so important to participate in your group and get to know each other. Get invested in each other.
I still genuinely worry about opening my door to an asswhuppin from guys like LJT, Mac, Pab, GA, etc. Even moreso, there are lots of people on the boards and RL (shout out to the NW quitters) that have invested time in helping me quit. I've invested in them. I can't imagine throwing that bond away.
Brotherhood and accountability. Building the former makes the latter bulletproof. And you get to meet some pretty cool folks, too.
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I need some advice. As I try to close the door on tobacco, my past caves were a result of not having a good plan to deal with craves. While I know it's the wrong answer, in that selfish moment, I am very unlikely to reach out to anyone for help. I'm not looking for advice such as hydrate, take a walk, etc; I need to mature my mental plan. Posting here everyday regardless of how long I've been quit is a critical action for me and I've written myself a long letter to remind myself of what a cave will do to me if I make that decision.
What other tools can I add to my daily quit arsenal?
How do I close the door to tobacco?
Thank you brothers from other mothers. :'(
For me, even though I've yet to reach out to anyone in the heat of a crave, just knowing I had friends and brothers I would be letting down kept me honest. That's why it's so important to participate in your group and get to know each other. Get invested in each other.
I still genuinely worry about opening my door to an asswhuppin from guys like LJT, Mac, Pab, GA, etc. Even moreso, there are lots of people on the boards and RL (shout out to the NW quitters) that have invested time in helping me quit. I've invested in them. I can't imagine throwing that bond away.
Brotherhood and accountability. Building the former makes the latter bulletproof. And you get to meet some pretty cool folks, too.
That seems powerful and I certainly need to work on that. This is a large site so I've found it difficult not to be lost in the masses. I text a few folks but it's fairly impersonal and the daily messages have already stopped. But I think my individual effort may be a reflection of the bonds I feel. Little effort, little bonds. Thank you for the advice. Very solid Sir.
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I need some advice. As I try to close the door on tobacco, my past caves were a result of not having a good plan to deal with craves. While I know it's the wrong answer, in that selfish moment, I am very unlikely to reach out to anyone for help. I'm not looking for advice such as hydrate, take a walk, etc; I need to mature my mental plan. Posting here everyday regardless of how long I've been quit is a critical action for me and I've written myself a long letter to remind myself of what a cave will do to me if I make that decision.
What other tools can I add to my daily quit arsenal?
How do I close the door to tobacco?
Thank you brothers from other mothers. :'(
For me, even though I've yet to reach out to anyone in the heat of a crave, just knowing I had friends and brothers I would be letting down kept me honest. That's why it's so important to participate in your group and get to know each other. Get invested in each other.
I still genuinely worry about opening my door to an asswhuppin from guys like LJT, Mac, Pab, GA, etc. Even moreso, there are lots of people on the boards and RL (shout out to the NW quitters) that have invested time in helping me quit. I've invested in them. I can't imagine throwing that bond away.
Brotherhood and accountability. Building the former makes the latter bulletproof. And you get to meet some pretty cool folks, too.
That seems powerful and I certainly need to work on that. This is a large site so I've found it difficult not to be lost in the masses. I text a few folks but it's fairly impersonal and the daily messages have already stopped. But I think my individual effort may be a reflection of the bonds I feel. Little effort, little bonds. Thank you for the advice. Very solid Sir.
Brisingr, glad to see you being honest about your limitations and reaching out for feedback - that's exactly what this place is for.
I found that the best way to manage severe cravings was through a technique called "surfing." It sounds a little new agey, but it worked for me. Basically, you focus all of your mental energy on experiencing the crave, but in a detached fashion. Describe to yourself, in your head or out loud, the physical sensation of the crave like you would to an outside observer. Like you're a scientist studying dip cravings. I know it sounds weird, but I found that by trying to detach from the experience, it made it less severe.
Fake dip, gum, candy, coffee grounds, etc. All that stuff can help you move past a crave. Exercise, chugging water, healthier options.
The biggest thing is to keep perspective. Each crave you work through signifies the healing process going on in your brain. By beating one, the next one won't be so bad. Over time, they become less common and less severe. Not sure if it ever truly goes away, I can tell you that it still happens after at least 419 days, but it becomes much easier to manage. Just remember that you're on the right path, just keep placing one foot in front of the other.
Edit: I wrote THIS (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=9802302&t=11629920) in my Intro when I was a few weeks in. You might find putting something like that together helpful.
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I need some advice. As I try to close the door on tobacco, my past caves were a result of not having a good plan to deal with craves. While I know it's the wrong answer, in that selfish moment, I am very unlikely to reach out to anyone for help. I'm not looking for advice such as hydrate, take a walk, etc; I need to mature my mental plan. Posting here everyday regardless of how long I've been quit is a critical action for me and I've written myself a long letter to remind myself of what a cave will do to me if I make that decision.
What other tools can I add to my daily quit arsenal?
How do I close the door to tobacco?
Thank you brothers from other mothers. :'(
For me, even though I've yet to reach out to anyone in the heat of a crave, just knowing I had friends and brothers I would be letting down kept me honest. That's why it's so important to participate in your group and get to know each other. Get invested in each other.
I still genuinely worry about opening my door to an asswhuppin from guys like LJT, Mac, Pab, GA, etc. Even moreso, there are lots of people on the boards and RL (shout out to the NW quitters) that have invested time in helping me quit. I've invested in them. I can't imagine throwing that bond away.
Brotherhood and accountability. Building the former makes the latter bulletproof. And you get to meet some pretty cool folks, too.
That seems powerful and I certainly need to work on that. This is a large site so I've found it difficult not to be lost in the masses. I text a few folks but it's fairly impersonal and the daily messages have already stopped. But I think my individual effort may be a reflection of the bonds I feel. Little effort, little bonds. Thank you for the advice. Very solid Sir.
Brisingr, glad to see you being honest about your limitations and reaching out for feedback - that's exactly what this place is for.
I found that the best way to manage severe cravings was through a technique called "surfing." It sounds a little new agey, but it worked for me. Basically, you focus all of your mental energy on experiencing the crave, but in a detached fashion. Describe to yourself, in your head or out loud, the physical sensation of the crave like you would to an outside observer. Like you're a scientist studying dip cravings. I know it sounds weird, but I found that by trying to detach from the experience, it made it less severe.
Fake dip, gum, candy, coffee grounds, etc. All that stuff can help you move past a crave. Exercise, chugging water, healthier options.
The biggest thing is to keep perspective. Each crave you work through signifies the healing process going on in your brain. By beating one, the next one won't be so bad. Over time, they become less common and less severe. Not sure if it ever truly goes away, I can tell you that it still happens after at least 419 days, but it becomes much easier to manage. Just remember that you're on the right path, just keep placing one foot in front of the other.
Edit: I wrote THIS (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=9802302&t=11629920) in my Intro when I was a few weeks in. You might find putting something like that together helpful.
Wow, thank you for the post. There is a lot of good things to absorb here but I especially like a defense in depth approach. I'll give the surfing a shot too. Also interesting is your two types of cavers and I'm a little of both I think but more so as a self destructive action. I deal with depression (especially in the summer for some odd reason) and my last two caves were in response to nothing is good so might as well use tobacco. My life actually is very good so I have to learn that that not everyday is perfect and regardless, tobacco will never make it better. Thank you again for the suggestions; will add it to my toolbox for sure.
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I need some advice. As I try to close the door on tobacco, my past caves were a result of not having a good plan to deal with craves. While I know it's the wrong answer, in that selfish moment, I am very unlikely to reach out to anyone for help. I'm not looking for advice such as hydrate, take a walk, etc; I need to mature my mental plan. Posting here everyday regardless of how long I've been quit is a critical action for me and I've written myself a long letter to remind myself of what a cave will do to me if I make that decision.
What other tools can I add to my daily quit arsenal?
How do I close the door to tobacco?
Thank you brothers from other mothers. :'(
For me, even though I've yet to reach out to anyone in the heat of a crave, just knowing I had friends and brothers I would be letting down kept me honest. That's why it's so important to participate in your group and get to know each other. Get invested in each other.
I still genuinely worry about opening my door to an asswhuppin from guys like LJT, Mac, Pab, GA, etc. Even moreso, there are lots of people on the boards and RL (shout out to the NW quitters) that have invested time in helping me quit. I've invested in them. I can't imagine throwing that bond away.
Brotherhood and accountability. Building the former makes the latter bulletproof. And you get to meet some pretty cool folks, too.
That seems powerful and I certainly need to work on that. This is a large site so I've found it difficult not to be lost in the masses. I text a few folks but it's fairly impersonal and the daily messages have already stopped. But I think my individual effort may be a reflection of the bonds I feel. Little effort, little bonds. Thank you for the advice. Very solid Sir.
Brisingr, glad to see you being honest about your limitations and reaching out for feedback - that's exactly what this place is for.
I found that the best way to manage severe cravings was through a technique called "surfing." It sounds a little new agey, but it worked for me. Basically, you focus all of your mental energy on experiencing the crave, but in a detached fashion. Describe to yourself, in your head or out loud, the physical sensation of the crave like you would to an outside observer. Like you're a scientist studying dip cravings. I know it sounds weird, but I found that by trying to detach from the experience, it made it less severe.
Fake dip, gum, candy, coffee grounds, etc. All that stuff can help you move past a crave. Exercise, chugging water, healthier options.
The biggest thing is to keep perspective. Each crave you work through signifies the healing process going on in your brain. By beating one, the next one won't be so bad. Over time, they become less common and less severe. Not sure if it ever truly goes away, I can tell you that it still happens after at least 419 days, but it becomes much easier to manage. Just remember that you're on the right path, just keep placing one foot in front of the other.
Edit: I wrote THIS (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=9802302&t=11629920) in my Intro when I was a few weeks in. You might find putting something like that together helpful.
Wow, thank you for the post. There is a lot of good things to absorb here but I especially like a defense in depth approach. I'll give the surfing a shot too. Also interesting is your two types of cavers and I'm a little of both I think but more so as a self destructive action. I deal with depression (especially in the summer for some odd reason) and my last two caves were in response to nothing is good so might as well use tobacco. My life actually is very good so I have to learn that that not everyday is perfect and regardless, tobacco will never make it better. Thank you again for the suggestions; will add it to my toolbox for sure.
You can win this battle. I got 716 reasons why, but ultimately it's your call. Why are YOU quit, I know I can help you from there.
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I have noticed a wave of pessimism overcome me the past couple days. It as if things seem so mundane and dull. I can think completely clearly, but everything from my perception seems negative in tone. I am more susceptible to a sudden bout of anger. I generally just feel down, viewing things as darker than they really are. I know I will not cave. I know I will get back up. I will adapt and overcome.
Having a community such as this one is a great tool. The past two days I've had what seems to be more intense psychological withdrawals. I know it will all come to pass and get better with time.
I've noticed myself drinking a lot more sodas. One of the strangest, but sometimes funnest parts of quitting nicotine is the dreams you have. I've had some very interesting dreams a couple nights in a row. On one or two dreams, however, I woke up quite disturbed. Not scared, just disturbed.
With all that being said, I'm two weeks in. I'm thankful to have this site and all of you who involve yourself in this community. I know this is my last and true quit because of this website right here.
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I need some advice. As I try to close the door on tobacco, my past caves were a result of not having a good plan to deal with craves. While I know it's the wrong answer, in that selfish moment, I am very unlikely to reach out to anyone for help. I'm not looking for advice such as hydrate, take a walk, etc; I need to mature my mental plan. Posting here everyday regardless of how long I've been quit is a critical action for me and I've written myself a long letter to remind myself of what a cave will do to me if I make that decision.
What other tools can I add to my daily quit arsenal?
How do I close the door to tobacco?
Thank you brothers from other mothers. :'(
For me, even though I've yet to reach out to anyone in the heat of a crave, just knowing I had friends and brothers I would be letting down kept me honest. That's why it's so important to participate in your group and get to know each other. Get invested in each other.
I still genuinely worry about opening my door to an asswhuppin from guys like LJT, Mac, Pab, GA, etc. Even moreso, there are lots of people on the boards and RL (shout out to the NW quitters) that have invested time in helping me quit. I've invested in them. I can't imagine throwing that bond away.
Brotherhood and accountability. Building the former makes the latter bulletproof. And you get to meet some pretty cool folks, too.
That seems powerful and I certainly need to work on that. This is a large site so I've found it difficult not to be lost in the masses. I text a few folks but it's fairly impersonal and the daily messages have already stopped. But I think my individual effort may be a reflection of the bonds I feel. Little effort, little bonds. Thank you for the advice. Very solid Sir.
Brisingr, glad to see you being honest about your limitations and reaching out for feedback - that's exactly what this place is for.
I found that the best way to manage severe cravings was through a technique called "surfing." It sounds a little new agey, but it worked for me. Basically, you focus all of your mental energy on experiencing the crave, but in a detached fashion. Describe to yourself, in your head or out loud, the physical sensation of the crave like you would to an outside observer. Like you're a scientist studying dip cravings. I know it sounds weird, but I found that by trying to detach from the experience, it made it less severe.
Fake dip, gum, candy, coffee grounds, etc. All that stuff can help you move past a crave. Exercise, chugging water, healthier options.
The biggest thing is to keep perspective. Each crave you work through signifies the healing process going on in your brain. By beating one, the next one won't be so bad. Over time, they become less common and less severe. Not sure if it ever truly goes away, I can tell you that it still happens after at least 419 days, but it becomes much easier to manage. Just remember that you're on the right path, just keep placing one foot in front of the other.
Edit: I wrote THIS (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=9802302&t=11629920) in my Intro when I was a few weeks in. You might find putting something like that together helpful.
Wow, thank you for the post. There is a lot of good things to absorb here but I especially like a defense in depth approach. I'll give the surfing a shot too. Also interesting is your two types of cavers and I'm a little of both I think but more so as a self destructive action. I deal with depression (especially in the summer for some odd reason) and my last two caves were in response to nothing is good so might as well use tobacco. My life actually is very good so I have to learn that that not everyday is perfect and regardless, tobacco will never make it better. Thank you again for the suggestions; will add it to my toolbox for sure.
You can win this battle. I got 716 reasons why, but ultimately it's your call. Why are YOU quit, I know I can help you from there.
Some good advice here.
I'll add a link to my crave prevention plan that I've put into action several times over the years.
https://www.killthecan.org/the-crave-prevention-plan/ (https://www.killthecan.org/the-crave-prevention-plan/)
Chewie
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I have noticed a wave of pessimism overcome me the past couple days. It as if things seem so mundane and dull. I can think completely clearly, but everything from my perception seems negative in tone. I am more susceptible to a sudden bout of anger. I generally just feel down, viewing things as darker than they really are. I know I will not cave. I know I will get back up. I will adapt and overcome.
Having a community such as this one is a great tool. The past two days I've had what seems to be more intense psychological withdrawals. I know it will all come to pass and get better with time.
I've noticed myself drinking a lot more sodas. One of the strangest, but sometimes funnest parts of quitting nicotine is the dreams you have. I've had some very interesting dreams a couple nights in a row. On one or two dreams, however, I woke up quite disturbed. Not scared, just disturbed.
With all that being said, I'm two weeks in. I'm thankful to have this site and all of you who involve yourself in this community. I know this is my last and true quit because of this website right here.
Hang in there... the two week mark can be a doozy. Fight through it!
https://www.killthecan.org/facts-figure ... -weakness/ (https://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/2-week-weakness/)
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Thinking of weird shit I used to think about when I was dipping.
As my username indicates, I was a Ninja Dipper. I could hide my dip better than anyone, and I did, for about 11 years. I could dip in polite society, gut the juice, an no-one was the wiser.
As I drove to and from work in this god awful ATL traffic, I used to wonder what to do if I got into a wreck. I was so afraid that I might get into an accident, become incapacitated, and the paramedics would have to pull a big wad of dip out of my trachea, or my wife would find out about my dip stash in the truck. I used to think about where I could hide my stash so that if I got into a wreck, no one would discover it. I never really found a good place, because, Duh, if you're that fucked up in a wreck, your dip stash is probably smashed too. So I spent time concocting the story I would tell my wife, just in case it came up.
"It wasn't mine."
"Must have been the paramedics."
Stupid, stupid, stupid shit. Now that I'm 16 days into my quit, the fog is slowly lifting, and I'm looking back at the absolutely stupid things I was thinking and doing at the time.
Any other Ninja Dippers have elaborate cover-up stories for if/when they got busted?
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Thinking of weird shit I used to think about when I was dipping.
As my username indicates, I was a Ninja Dipper. I could hide my dip better than anyone, and I did, for about 11 years. I could dip in polite society, gut the juice, an no-one was the wiser.
As I drove to and from work in this god awful ATL traffic, I used to wonder what to do if I got into a wreck. I was so afraid that I might get into an accident, become incapacitated, and the paramedics would have to pull a big wad of dip out of my trachea, or my wife would find out about my dip stash in the truck. I used to think about where I could hide my stash so that if I got into a wreck, no one would discover it. I never really found a good place, because, Duh, if you're that fucked up in a wreck, your dip stash is probably smashed too. So I spent time concocting the story I would tell my wife, just in case it came up.
"It wasn't mine."
"Must have been the paramedics."
Stupid, stupid, stupid shit. Now that I'm 16 days into my quit, the fog is slowly lifting, and I'm looking back at the absolutely stupid things I was thinking and doing at the time.
Any other Ninja Dippers have elaborate cover-up stories for if/when they got busted?
My plan was to say "oh that must have been left there from the hunting trip" or "my brother must have left that in here." My truck isn't exactly surgically clean, so it's not unusual for something to be left in a door panel for months/ years. If she found it in the house, my plan was to point, say "Look over there!" and then run away, change my name and start a new life in Utah.
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Thinking of weird shit I used to think about when I was dipping.
As my username indicates, I was a Ninja Dipper. I could hide my dip better than anyone, and I did, for about 11 years. I could dip in polite society, gut the juice, an no-one was the wiser.
As I drove to and from work in this god awful ATL traffic, I used to wonder what to do if I got into a wreck. I was so afraid that I might get into an accident, become incapacitated, and the paramedics would have to pull a big wad of dip out of my trachea, or my wife would find out about my dip stash in the truck. I used to think about where I could hide my stash so that if I got into a wreck, no one would discover it. I never really found a good place, because, Duh, if you're that fucked up in a wreck, your dip stash is probably smashed too. So I spent time concocting the story I would tell my wife, just in case it came up.
"It wasn't mine."
"Must have been the paramedics."
Stupid, stupid, stupid shit. Now that I'm 16 days into my quit, the fog is slowly lifting, and I'm looking back at the absolutely stupid things I was thinking and doing at the time.
Any other Ninja Dippers have elaborate cover-up stories for if/when they got busted?
My plan was to say "oh that must have been left there from the hunting trip" or "my brother must have left that in here." My truck isn't exactly surgically clean, so it's not unusual for something to be left in a door panel for months/ years. If she found it in the house, my plan was to point, say "Look over there!" and then run away, change my name and start a new life in Utah.
It's pretty fucked up what that nicotine made us do.
I actually entertained the thought of leaving if busted. When I finally was caught by my wife, my first instinct was to lie, which I did, and then I broke down and confessed. Holy crap was she pissed. I had lied to her for a LONG time, and she was pissed at me for that. She was also pissed that she hadn't caught or noticed me sooner.
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Thinking of weird shit I used to think about when I was dipping.
As my username indicates, I was a Ninja Dipper. I could hide my dip better than anyone, and I did, for about 11 years. I could dip in polite society, gut the juice, an no-one was the wiser.
As I drove to and from work in this god awful ATL traffic, I used to wonder what to do if I got into a wreck. I was so afraid that I might get into an accident, become incapacitated, and the paramedics would have to pull a big wad of dip out of my trachea, or my wife would find out about my dip stash in the truck. I used to think about where I could hide my stash so that if I got into a wreck, no one would discover it. I never really found a good place, because, Duh, if you're that fucked up in a wreck, your dip stash is probably smashed too. So I spent time concocting the story I would tell my wife, just in case it came up.
"It wasn't mine."
"Must have been the paramedics."
Stupid, stupid, stupid shit. Now that I'm 16 days into my quit, the fog is slowly lifting, and I'm looking back at the absolutely stupid things I was thinking and doing at the time.
Any other Ninja Dippers have elaborate cover-up stories for if/when they got busted?
My plan was to say "oh that must have been left there from the hunting trip" or "my brother must have left that in here." My truck isn't exactly surgically clean, so it's not unusual for something to be left in a door panel for months/ years. If she found it in the house, my plan was to point, say "Look over there!" and then run away, change my name and start a new life in Utah.
It's pretty fucked up what that nicotine made us do.
I actually entertained the thought of leaving if busted. When I finally was caught by my wife, my first instinct was to lie, which I did, and then I broke down and confessed. Holy crap was she pissed. I had lied to her for a LONG time, and she was pissed at me for that. She was also pissed that she hadn't caught or noticed me sooner.
this is brilliant... thanks for sharing guys.
https://www.killthecan.org/the-lies-dippers-weave/ (https://www.killthecan.org/the-lies-dippers-weave/)
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Just an observation and suggestion. Not raising a stink for sure. 'winker'
It seems it may be better to limit roll call threads to just roll call posts. The general discussion in between e.g. rants/raves, fun, questions, etc. is easily lost amongst all the roll posts. I miss these general posts if i don't scroll back several pages to see what I missed.
Potentially every quit group should have a roll call thread as well as a general discussion thread. I know we need somewhere other than here in KTC general discussion to collaborate as a quit group but within the roll call thread itself doesn't make sense to me.
October 2017
-Roll Call
-General Discussion
-More Accountability / Contact Information
I'm a newbie so I'm guessing this concern has been raised before and it simply is better the way it is. I don't use forum tools either so that may be part of the problem.
Peace and Tacos
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Just an observation and suggestion. Not raising a stink for sure. 'winker'
It seems it may be better to limit roll call threads to just roll call posts. The general discussion in between e.g. rants/raves, fun, questions, etc. is easily lost amongst all the roll posts. I miss these general posts if i don't scroll back several pages to see what I missed.
Potentially every quit group should have a roll call thread as well as a general discussion thread. I know we need somewhere other than here in KTC general discussion to collaborate as a quit group but within the roll call thread itself doesn't make sense to me.
October 2017
-Roll Call
-General Discussion
-More Accountability / Contact Information
I'm a newbie so I'm guessing this concern has been raised before and it simply is better the way it is. I don't use forum tools either so that may be part of the problem.
Peace and Tacos
Concur
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Just an observation and suggestion. Not raising a stink for sure. 'winker'
It seems it may be better to limit roll call threads to just roll call posts. The general discussion in between e.g. rants/raves, fun, questions, etc. is easily lost amongst all the roll posts. I miss these general posts if i don't scroll back several pages to see what I missed.
Potentially every quit group should have a roll call thread as well as a general discussion thread. I know we need somewhere other than here in KTC general discussion to collaborate as a quit group but within the roll call thread itself doesn't make sense to me.
October 2017
-Roll Call
-General Discussion
-More Accountability / Contact Information
I'm a newbie so I'm guessing this concern has been raised before and it simply is better the way it is. I don't use forum tools either so that may be part of the problem.
Peace and Tacos
Concur
This does get brought up from time to time, but there are a few reasons that it doesn't happen.
- Many times people might not post, but will still read what's going on in the group and take a lot out of that. Some of those folks might not ever click into the discussion group and would miss out on what's going on.
- Conversely, some folks might just choose to take advantage of Discussion without feeling like they have to get on Roll. Having the Roll posts right there allows you to quickly check to make sure folks are actually making that promise.
- How to police this? Who's going to be in charge of telling people to take conversation off of Roll threads? Moving pickups back over to the roll thread? It just adds a layer of confusion and consternation.
- Picking up new quitters. Sometimes having an immediate response is what gets a new quitter on board. If someone posts a Day One, but doesn't realize there's a separate discussion page, it's possible they'll feel unwelcome because there's no one monitoring the group's roll page.
- Roll-Jacking actually provides a lot of humor and sparks a lot of interactions early on.
- Roll posting is purposefully confusing. It requires that a quitter use their foggy ass brain to focus and actually figure it out. If that's too much for you, then you really aren't prepared for the struggles involved with quitting. New quitters need to put some skin in the game and actually figure it out.
- There are plenty of other discussion and sub-topic tools on this site, so there really should be no shortage of discussion options.
- The main concern is trivializing Roll. Roll is the backbone of the system here and needs to be front and center w/ the groups. Separating it takes visibility away from the promise.
Anyway, it's not a perfect system, but it has worked for the folks here and there is definitely a healthy resistance to anything that might fuck with the secret sauce. I wouldn't bank on a change happening anytime soon.
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Just an observation and suggestion. Not raising a stink for sure. 'winker'
It seems it may be better to limit roll call threads to just roll call posts. The general discussion in between e.g. rants/raves, fun, questions, etc. is easily lost amongst all the roll posts. I miss these general posts if i don't scroll back several pages to see what I missed.
Potentially every quit group should have a roll call thread as well as a general discussion thread. I know we need somewhere other than here in KTC general discussion to collaborate as a quit group but within the roll call thread itself doesn't make sense to me.
October 2017
-Roll Call
-General Discussion
-More Accountability / Contact Information
I'm a newbie so I'm guessing this concern has been raised before and it simply is better the way it is. I don't use forum tools either so that may be part of the problem.
Peace and Tacos
Concur
This does get brought up from time to time, but there are a few reasons that it doesn't happen.
- Many times people might not post, but will still read what's going on in the group and take a lot out of that. Some of those folks might not ever click into the discussion group and would miss out on what's going on.
- Conversely, some folks might just choose to take advantage of Discussion without feeling like they have to get on Roll. Having the Roll posts right there allows you to quickly check to make sure folks are actually making that promise.
- How to police this? Who's going to be in charge of telling people to take conversation off of Roll threads? Moving pickups back over to the roll thread? It just adds a layer of confusion and consternation.
- Picking up new quitters. Sometimes having an immediate response is what gets a new quitter on board. If someone posts a Day One, but doesn't realize there's a separate discussion page, it's possible they'll feel unwelcome because there's no one monitoring the group's roll page.
- Roll-Jacking actually provides a lot of humor and sparks a lot of interactions early on.
- Roll posting is purposefully confusing. It requires that a quitter use their foggy ass brain to focus and actually figure it out. If that's too much for you, then you really aren't prepared for the struggles involved with quitting. New quitters need to put some skin in the game and actually figure it out.
- There are plenty of other discussion and sub-topic tools on this site, so there really should be no shortage of discussion options.
- The main concern is trivializing Roll. Roll is the backbone of the system here and needs to be front and center w/ the groups. Separating it takes visibility away from the promise.
Anyway, it's not a perfect system, but it has worked for the folks here and there is definitely a healthy resistance to anything that might fuck with the secret sauce. I wouldn't bank on a change happening anytime soon.
Thank you for the response. Respectfully, I feel most of these reasons are pretty weak and have obvious mitigations. If anything, much team building is lost with the loss of focused group conversations.
I will say this much; making it difficult to post roll on purpose should certainly be avoided. I'm guessing this reason is actually not an intention of KTC at all.
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Just an observation and suggestion. Not raising a stink for sure. 'winker'
It seems it may be better to limit roll call threads to just roll call posts. The general discussion in between e.g. rants/raves, fun, questions, etc. is easily lost amongst all the roll posts. I miss these general posts if i don't scroll back several pages to see what I missed.
Potentially every quit group should have a roll call thread as well as a general discussion thread. I know we need somewhere other than here in KTC general discussion to collaborate as a quit group but within the roll call thread itself doesn't make sense to me.
October 2017
-Roll Call
-General Discussion
-More Accountability / Contact Information
I'm a newbie so I'm guessing this concern has been raised before and it simply is better the way it is. I don't use forum tools either so that may be part of the problem.
Peace and Tacos
Concur
This does get brought up from time to time, but there are a few reasons that it doesn't happen.
- Many times people might not post, but will still read what's going on in the group and take a lot out of that. Some of those folks might not ever click into the discussion group and would miss out on what's going on.
- Conversely, some folks might just choose to take advantage of Discussion without feeling like they have to get on Roll. Having the Roll posts right there allows you to quickly check to make sure folks are actually making that promise.
- How to police this? Who's going to be in charge of telling people to take conversation off of Roll threads? Moving pickups back over to the roll thread? It just adds a layer of confusion and consternation.
- Picking up new quitters. Sometimes having an immediate response is what gets a new quitter on board. If someone posts a Day One, but doesn't realize there's a separate discussion page, it's possible they'll feel unwelcome because there's no one monitoring the group's roll page.
- Roll-Jacking actually provides a lot of humor and sparks a lot of interactions early on.
- Roll posting is purposefully confusing. It requires that a quitter use their foggy ass brain to focus and actually figure it out. If that's too much for you, then you really aren't prepared for the struggles involved with quitting. New quitters need to put some skin in the game and actually figure it out.
- There are plenty of other discussion and sub-topic tools on this site, so there really should be no shortage of discussion options.
- The main concern is trivializing Roll. Roll is the backbone of the system here and needs to be front and center w/ the groups. Separating it takes visibility away from the promise.
Anyway, it's not a perfect system, but it has worked for the folks here and there is definitely a healthy resistance to anything that might fuck with the secret sauce. I wouldn't bank on a change happening anytime soon.
Thank you for the response. Respectfully, I feel most of these reasons are pretty weak and have obvious mitigations. If anything, much team building is lost with the loss of focused group conversations.
I will say this much; making it difficult to post roll on purpose should certainly be avoided. I'm guessing this reason is actually not an intention of KTC at all.
I don't disagree that it could be streamlined, but KTC is the definition of change averse.
However, if you have some specific suggestions, feel free to voice them here. topic/30193051/1/#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30193051/1/#new)
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Just an observation and suggestion. Not raising a stink for sure. 'winker'
It seems it may be better to limit roll call threads to just roll call posts. The general discussion in between e.g. rants/raves, fun, questions, etc. is easily lost amongst all the roll posts. I miss these general posts if i don't scroll back several pages to see what I missed.
Potentially every quit group should have a roll call thread as well as a general discussion thread. I know we need somewhere other than here in KTC general discussion to collaborate as a quit group but within the roll call thread itself doesn't make sense to me.
October 2017
-Roll Call
-General Discussion
-More Accountability / Contact Information
I'm a newbie so I'm guessing this concern has been raised before and it simply is better the way it is. I don't use forum tools either so that may be part of the problem.
Peace and Tacos
Concur
This does get brought up from time to time, but there are a few reasons that it doesn't happen.
- Many times people might not post, but will still read what's going on in the group and take a lot out of that. Some of those folks might not ever click into the discussion group and would miss out on what's going on.
- Conversely, some folks might just choose to take advantage of Discussion without feeling like they have to get on Roll. Having the Roll posts right there allows you to quickly check to make sure folks are actually making that promise.
- How to police this? Who's going to be in charge of telling people to take conversation off of Roll threads? Moving pickups back over to the roll thread? It just adds a layer of confusion and consternation.
- Picking up new quitters. Sometimes having an immediate response is what gets a new quitter on board. If someone posts a Day One, but doesn't realize there's a separate discussion page, it's possible they'll feel unwelcome because there's no one monitoring the group's roll page.
- Roll-Jacking actually provides a lot of humor and sparks a lot of interactions early on.
- Roll posting is purposefully confusing. It requires that a quitter use their foggy ass brain to focus and actually figure it out. If that's too much for you, then you really aren't prepared for the struggles involved with quitting. New quitters need to put some skin in the game and actually figure it out.
- There are plenty of other discussion and sub-topic tools on this site, so there really should be no shortage of discussion options.
- The main concern is trivializing Roll. Roll is the backbone of the system here and needs to be front and center w/ the groups. Separating it takes visibility away from the promise.
Anyway, it's not a perfect system, but it has worked for the folks here and there is definitely a healthy resistance to anything that might fuck with the secret sauce. I wouldn't bank on a change happening anytime soon.
Thank you for the response. Respectfully, I feel most of these reasons are pretty weak and have obvious mitigations. If anything, much team building is lost with the loss of focused group conversations.
I will say this much; making it difficult to post roll on purpose should certainly be avoided. I'm guessing this reason is actually not an intention of KTC at all.
I don't disagree that it could be streamlined, but KTC is the definition of change averse.
However, if you have some specific suggestions, feel free to voice them here. topic/30193051/1/#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30193051/1/#new)
Cool. Thank ya brother!
'oh yeah'
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Just an observation and suggestion. Not raising a stink for sure. 'winker'
It seems it may be better to limit roll call threads to just roll call posts. The general discussion in between e.g. rants/raves, fun, questions, etc. is easily lost amongst all the roll posts. I miss these general posts if i don't scroll back several pages to see what I missed.
Potentially every quit group should have a roll call thread as well as a general discussion thread. I know we need somewhere other than here in KTC general discussion to collaborate as a quit group but within the roll call thread itself doesn't make sense to me.
October 2017
-Roll Call
-General Discussion
-More Accountability / Contact Information
I'm a newbie so I'm guessing this concern has been raised before and it simply is better the way it is. I don't use forum tools either so that may be part of the problem.
Peace and Tacos
Concur
This does get brought up from time to time, but there are a few reasons that it doesn't happen.
- Many times people might not post, but will still read what's going on in the group and take a lot out of that. Some of those folks might not ever click into the discussion group and would miss out on what's going on.
- Conversely, some folks might just choose to take advantage of Discussion without feeling like they have to get on Roll. Having the Roll posts right there allows you to quickly check to make sure folks are actually making that promise.
- How to police this? Who's going to be in charge of telling people to take conversation off of Roll threads? Moving pickups back over to the roll thread? It just adds a layer of confusion and consternation.
- Picking up new quitters. Sometimes having an immediate response is what gets a new quitter on board. If someone posts a Day One, but doesn't realize there's a separate discussion page, it's possible they'll feel unwelcome because there's no one monitoring the group's roll page.
- Roll-Jacking actually provides a lot of humor and sparks a lot of interactions early on.
- Roll posting is purposefully confusing. It requires that a quitter use their foggy ass brain to focus and actually figure it out. If that's too much for you, then you really aren't prepared for the struggles involved with quitting. New quitters need to put some skin in the game and actually figure it out.
- There are plenty of other discussion and sub-topic tools on this site, so there really should be no shortage of discussion options.
- The main concern is trivializing Roll. Roll is the backbone of the system here and needs to be front and center w/ the groups. Separating it takes visibility away from the promise.
Anyway, it's not a perfect system, but it has worked for the folks here and there is definitely a healthy resistance to anything that might fuck with the secret sauce. I wouldn't bank on a change happening anytime soon.
Thank you for the response. Respectfully, I feel most of these reasons are pretty weak and have obvious mitigations. If anything, much team building is lost with the loss of focused group conversations.
I will say this much; making it difficult to post roll on purpose should certainly be avoided. I'm guessing this reason is actually not an intention of KTC at all.
I don't disagree that it could be streamlined, but KTC is the definition of change averse.
However, if you have some specific suggestions, feel free to voice them here. topic/30193051/1/#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30193051/1/#new)
Cool. Thank ya brother!
'oh yeah'
Just to give some additional (historical?) perspective.
Roll and discussion have been set up this way since this place opened 10+ years ago. Is it perfect? Absolutely not.
In fact, if memory serves me correctly we even tried the multiple threads per group route and have since gone away from it.
We're not making roll difficult on purpose per se, BUT pky is right that we don't want to make it TOO easy. It's been suggested that we make roll call akin to a check box. That's not difficult enough in my book. There needs to be thought that goes into it. After all, it's a promise. It's a decision that needs to be made, by the quitter, daily. It's very important, in my opinion, that there's a "process" there.
That said, we're not completely closed to the idea of changing the way we do roll. In fact, part of it is tied to the software itself. We've had ongoing discussions about if (when) we migrate to a different forum setup we'd also modify how we do roll call. That migration is a complicated issue with several (more than that) moving parts.
I think it's safe to say that both (new software and changes to how we do roll call) are coming, but I think it's also safe to say that pky is right... it won't be too terribly soon.
Chewie
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if it aint broke.......
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I joined yesterday, my quit date was 8 days ago. I have been doing Copenhagen for 36 years. Ouch! I cannot believe I have not cheated yet. I found Grinds coffee pouches and fell in love with them. These pouches have filled every craving I had. The first 5 days were horrible, sleep wise. I could not sleep at all, sweats, and don't laugh, I think I saw a few ghosts. So glad I found this site. It is awesome. I ordered Baccoff pouches straight and they were horrible. I thought I was going to throw up. I'll stick with the coffee pouches. I think the big thing about finding the oral fixation is not to look for the taste of cope! I am pretending to change flavors so I can't be so critical of the no nicotine no tobacco flavors. Smokey Mountain wintergreen is pretty awesome. Anyway, I know I can do this with the help of all of you. There is so much good info on here that my anxiety is almost nothing. It really helps knowing what others have been through.
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Just joined the group. Read the Forums off and on as motivation for a while. I have been dipping since 2009. I have hid dipping from my wife for almost 3 years. (She knows I have one every now and then but not to the extent that I do.) I have had a few attempts at quitting. My most recent attempt has lasted 15 days so far. It's been tough. I think about it constantly. Driving. Working. Mowing. It's tough. Here is my problem. I am a coach and a teacher and leave next week for Nashville and will be there for 4 days. All expenses paid. Without my wife. It's sad but I am already thinking of the dip I want on the plane rides and at the hotel all by myself all week. To top it all off my superintendent dips and will be offering it to me all week. Please talk me off the ledge and give me some words of advice.
Thanks.
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Just joined the group. Read the Forums off and on as motivation for a while. I have been dipping since 2009. I have hid dipping from my wife for almost 3 years. (She knows I have one every now and then but not to the extent that I do.) I have had a few attempts at quitting. My most recent attempt has lasted 15 days so far. It's been tough. I think about it constantly. Driving. Working. Mowing. It's tough. Here is my problem. I am a coach and a teacher and leave next week for Nashville and will be there for 4 days. All expenses paid. Without my wife. It's sad but I am already thinking of the dip I want on the plane rides and at the hotel all by myself all week. To top it all off my superintendent dips and will be offering it to me all week. Please talk me off the ledge and give me some words of advice.
Thanks.
Have you tried fake dip yet? Works for me. Tell your supe you quit and would appreciate it if he keeps it away from you.
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Just joined the group. Read the Forums off and on as motivation for a while. I have been dipping since 2009. I have hid dipping from my wife for almost 3 years. (She knows I have one every now and then but not to the extent that I do.) I have had a few attempts at quitting. My most recent attempt has lasted 15 days so far. It's been tough. I think about it constantly. Driving. Working. Mowing. It's tough. Here is my problem. I am a coach and a teacher and leave next week for Nashville and will be there for 4 days. All expenses paid. Without my wife. It's sad but I am already thinking of the dip I want on the plane rides and at the hotel all by myself all week. To top it all off my superintendent dips and will be offering it to me all week. Please talk me off the ledge and give me some words of advice.
Thanks.
Have you tried fake dip yet? Works for me. Tell your supe you quit and would appreciate it if he keeps it away from you.
Okc23 - do you want to quit? That's the most important question. If you want to quit, you can - regardless of the temptations or the situation.
If you want to try, slow down, taper, think about it, maybe later, test the waters, "Quit again", then this is not the place for you. If that's you, then my advice is to pack a fatty and come back later.
If you saw all of those options and said "FUCK THAT, I'm no punk bitch, I want to QUIT!!!!" Well then brother, do I have the plan for you! Find the October 2017 pre-HOF Quit Group and post a Day 1. Promise you won't use any nicotine product for today. Keep that promise. Wake up tomorrow, and FIRST THING, make that same promise. Keep it.
See where I'm going? I've made that promise every day and today I posted it for Day 432. That number seems impossible to you, but it isn't. You can do that too. It's one day at a time, every freaking day. Make the promise, keep it. It couldn't be more simple - but it won't be easy.
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OKC, to a person here, we all face our demons, triggers, temptations and 'reasons' to dip.
PKY is right on. It is up to you to recognize, and decide whether you want to conquer them or continue to be a slave.
I travel every week, lots of flying, long drives in rental cars, hotels at night alone. Talk about opportunities to give in!! The old days that's all I did. Then, I made a decision that I had had enough 692 days ago. And I joined Nov 2015, dove in, exchanged phone numbers with a ton of people here.
And now I am killing it.
However, I am still as susceptible to caving and dipping as I was 692 days ago, but now I have tools, knowledge, promises, accountability, friends, and all sorts of confidence that I can make it each day without a dip.
Dude like many here I 'stopped' hundreds of times in 30 years. But i never 'quit' until I joined Nov 2015.
Are you tired of being a slave? Are you ready to attack this head on? If you are, join Oct 2017 and get active and post your roll promise every day early.
If you arent ready, then you can continue to be a slave, come up with excuses to dip and planned caves.
Tools are here, support is here, your quit is here waiting for you. Are you ready?
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Thanks guys. I appreciate the motivation. I will post my first Roll Call in the morning. Tired of being so dependent on this stuff. Not as concerned about the effects dip has on me but pissed off that I allowed myself to get this addicted to something.
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Thanks guys. I appreciate the motivation. I will post my first Roll Call in the morning. Tired of being so dependent on this stuff. Not as concerned about the effects dip has on me but pissed off that I allowed myself to get this addicted to something.
Awesome man! Thrilled to hear it - the quit will be tough at first, but I guarantee that it will get better and the freedom you'll have will be totally worth the pain.
Don't wait for tomorrow. Dump all of your nicotine products right now and post Day One today! At KTC we count the day you quit as Day 1, so don't wait until tomorrow.
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Anyone else experience unquenchable thirst after quitting? It's my 27th day and all day today and yesterday I have drank lots of water but still felt thirst intensely. The type of thirst where you can feel your mouth salivating. The type of thirst that only really milk and water will quench. Wondering if anyone else has experienced anything of the sort or if my body just needed liquids lately lol.
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Anyone else experience unquenchable thirst after quitting? It's my 27th day and all day today and yesterday I have drank lots of water but still felt thirst intensely. The type of thirst where you can feel your mouth salivating. The type of thirst that only really milk and water will quench. Wondering if anyone else has experienced anything of the sort or if my body just needed liquids lately lol.
For sure. I nailed water like crazy the first few months after quitting.
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Anyone else experience unquenchable thirst after quitting? It's my 27th day and all day today and yesterday I have drank lots of water but still felt thirst intensely. The type of thirst where you can feel your mouth salivating. The type of thirst that only really milk and water will quench. Wondering if anyone else has experienced anything of the sort or if my body just needed liquids lately lol.
For sure. I nailed water like crazy the first few months after quitting.
Agreed. I drank more than a gallon of water a day for months.
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rkymtnman dropping some words of wisdom. Take these words to heart quitters... This is gold.
https://www.killthecan.org/it-gets-better/ (https://www.killthecan.org/it-gets-better/)
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rkymtnman dropping some words of wisdom. Take these words to heart quitters... This is gold.
https://www.killthecan.org/it-gets-better/ (https://www.killthecan.org/it-gets-better/)
Epic.
yeah my hardest days were 101 - 150. Geez. It was like day 1 all over again. So glad i found this place and the quitters herein. Newbies and Vets alike.
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rkymtnman dropping some words of wisdom. Take these words to heart quitters... This is gold.
https://www.killthecan.org/it-gets-better/ (https://www.killthecan.org/it-gets-better/)
Epic.
yeah my hardest days were 101 - 150. Geez. It was like day 1 all over again. So glad i found this place and the quitters herein. Newbies and Vets alike.
Read it, makes sense, but tell me Chewie - what is it like down the road? Feel normal again?
Also, what does "+1" mean?
Thanks veteran bro.
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rkymtnman dropping some words of wisdom. Take these words to heart quitters... This is gold.
https://www.killthecan.org/it-gets-better/ (https://www.killthecan.org/it-gets-better/)
Epic.
yeah my hardest days were 101 - 150. Geez. It was like day 1 all over again. So glad i found this place and the quitters herein. Newbies and Vets alike.
Read it, makes sense, but tell me Chewie - what is it like down the road? Feel normal again?
Also, what does "+1" mean?
Thanks veteran bro.
Yep, totally normal. I can honestly tell you it's been years since I've had anything that I'd consider a crave. Freedom from that little can is a glorious thing.
+1 is a way for us to remind ourselves that we just quit today. Just today. Plus one day.
Tomorrow is another +1 and before you know it you've got a pile of them.
Chewie
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Is this the place to share random "WTF was that all about" stories? I sure hope so because I've got a good one. Buckle up buckaroos...
So I'm sitting at my house this evening indoctrinating my 2 year old godson into the good movies I grew up on (Space Jam, 90s Disney movies, the works) when I get a call from an old friend about DDing. I figured I'd help her out since little man would be asleep long before the bars closed. 12:40 rolls around so I quietly slip away and head downtown.
As I pull into downtown I see a couple city PD cars parked with their lights on; nothing out of the ordinary for closing time. By the time I make it 2 blocks the count was up to 10 squad cars, so I knew something was up. The girls hop in bawling and too drunk to give a good account other than "SHIT GOT CRAZY" so I dropped them off at their apartment, started their coffee pot for them and headed out so I could get a better story.
One of my childhood buddies is a deputy sheriff in town so I gave him a call. He didn't answer at first so I figured he had the night off, but when he called back 10 minutes later I knew we were in business. Turns out he was one of the many (25 units by his count) that responded. Apparently some drunk idiot got into it with another drunk idiot and fired his gun in the air. To make matters worse, he and his friends got mouthy with the cops when they showed up.
Apparently the guy that fired the gunshot had his CC license, so I'm curious- to those of you licensed to carry, are there certain places you can't carry? I would imagine this would be the case and surely bars are on the list of no no locations.
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Is this the place to share random "WTF was that all about" stories? I sure hope so because I've got a good one. Buckle up buckaroos...
So I'm sitting at my house this evening indoctrinating my 2 year old godson into the good movies I grew up on (Space Jam, 90s Disney movies, the works) when I get a call from an old friend about DDing. I figured I'd help her out since little man would be asleep long before the bars closed. 12:40 rolls around so I quietly slip away and head downtown.
As I pull into downtown I see a couple city PD cars parked with their lights on; nothing out of the ordinary for closing time. By the time I make it 2 blocks the count was up to 10 squad cars, so I knew something was up. The girls hop in bawling and too drunk to give a good account other than "SHIT GOT CRAZY" so I dropped them off at their apartment, started their coffee pot for them and headed out so I could get a better story.
One of my childhood buddies is a deputy sheriff in town so I gave him a call. He didn't answer at first so I figured he had the night off, but when he called back 10 minutes later I knew we were in business. Turns out he was one of the many (25 units by his count) that responded. Apparently some drunk idiot got into it with another drunk idiot and fired his gun in the air. To make matters worse, he and his friends got mouthy with the cops when they showed up.
Apparently the guy that fired the gunshot had his CC license, so I'm curious- to those of you licensed to carry, are there certain places you can't carry? I would imagine this would be the case and surely bars are on the list of no no locations.
Not sure except in my state where you can CC, some places e.g. movie theaters post signs that no guns are allowed. I know you can't carry onto government sites too.
Um, did you leave a two year old at home by themselves?
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Is this the place to share random "WTF was that all about" stories? I sure hope so because I've got a good one. Buckle up buckaroos...
So I'm sitting at my house this evening indoctrinating my 2 year old godson into the good movies I grew up on (Space Jam, 90s Disney movies, the works) when I get a call from an old friend about DDing. I figured I'd help her out since little man would be asleep long before the bars closed. 12:40 rolls around so I quietly slip away and head downtown.
As I pull into downtown I see a couple city PD cars parked with their lights on; nothing out of the ordinary for closing time. By the time I make it 2 blocks the count was up to 10 squad cars, so I knew something was up. The girls hop in bawling and too drunk to give a good account other than "SHIT GOT CRAZY" so I dropped them off at their apartment, started their coffee pot for them and headed out so I could get a better story.
One of my childhood buddies is a deputy sheriff in town so I gave him a call. He didn't answer at first so I figured he had the night off, but when he called back 10 minutes later I knew we were in business. Turns out he was one of the many (25 units by his count) that responded. Apparently some drunk idiot got into it with another drunk idiot and fired his gun in the air. To make matters worse, he and his friends got mouthy with the cops when they showed up.
Apparently the guy that fired the gunshot had his CC license, so I'm curious- to those of you licensed to carry, are there certain places you can't carry? I would imagine this would be the case and surely bars are on the list of no no locations.
Not sure except in my state where you can CC, some places e.g. movie theaters post signs that no guns are allowed. I know you can't carry onto government sites too.
Um, did you leave a two year old at home by themselves?
Noooo no definitely not. Since I'm headed back to school and my roommate went and got married I'm with my parents for a few months, so one of them sat with him.
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Is this the place to share random "WTF was that all about" stories? I sure hope so because I've got a good one. Buckle up buckaroos...
So I'm sitting at my house this evening indoctrinating my 2 year old godson into the good movies I grew up on (Space Jam, 90s Disney movies, the works) when I get a call from an old friend about DDing. I figured I'd help her out since little man would be asleep long before the bars closed. 12:40 rolls around so I quietly slip away and head downtown.
As I pull into downtown I see a couple city PD cars parked with their lights on; nothing out of the ordinary for closing time. By the time I make it 2 blocks the count was up to 10 squad cars, so I knew something was up. The girls hop in bawling and too drunk to give a good account other than "SHIT GOT CRAZY" so I dropped them off at their apartment, started their coffee pot for them and headed out so I could get a better story.
One of my childhood buddies is a deputy sheriff in town so I gave him a call. He didn't answer at first so I figured he had the night off, but when he called back 10 minutes later I knew we were in business. Turns out he was one of the many (25 units by his count) that responded. Apparently some drunk idiot got into it with another drunk idiot and fired his gun in the air. To make matters worse, he and his friends got mouthy with the cops when they showed up.
Apparently the guy that fired the gunshot had his CC license, so I'm curious- to those of you licensed to carry, are there certain places you can't carry? I would imagine this would be the case and surely bars are on the list of no no locations.
Not sure except in my state where you can CC, some places e.g. movie theaters post signs that no guns are allowed. I know you can't carry onto government sites too.
Um, did you leave a two year old at home by themselves?
Noooo no definitely not. Since I'm headed back to school and my roommate went and got married I'm with my parents for a few months, so one of them sat with him.
I figured but I am always happy to risk offending someone for the sake and welfare of a child. Crazy story, crazy world. This is why I like to stay home. :ermm:
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Sadly it has been too long since I dropped by. i hope my old friends are still around and I encourage you that don't know me to keep the fight going. Sanity is overrated but a strong quit is not.
'ODT'
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rkymtnman dropping some words of wisdom. Take these words to heart quitters... This is gold.
https://www.killthecan.org/it-gets-better/ (https://www.killthecan.org/it-gets-better/)
Epic.
yeah my hardest days were 101 - 150. Geez. It was like day 1 all over again. So glad i found this place and the quitters herein. Newbies and Vets alike.
I can't wait till I get there. I'm at day 35 and I'm having the day 1 thoughts bro it's difficult. It's easy yet difficult at the same time. It is a war within me. I am completely confident that I will not take a dip yet I still think about it hard the past week. Got to keep on keepin' on.
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rkymtnman dropping some words of wisdom. Take these words to heart quitters... This is gold.
https://www.killthecan.org/it-gets-better/ (https://www.killthecan.org/it-gets-better/)
Epic.
yeah my hardest days were 101 - 150. Geez. It was like day 1 all over again. So glad i found this place and the quitters herein. Newbies and Vets alike.
I can't wait till I get there. I'm at day 35 and I'm having the day 1 thoughts bro it's difficult. It's easy yet difficult at the same time. It is a war within me. I am completely confident that I will not take a dip yet I still think about it hard the past week. Got to keep on keepin' on.
It gets better. I promise you the days get much easier. HOWEVER, I think you'd be better off if you changed your mindset in 2 very important ways. First, don't worry about getting "there." There is no "there." Every single day you are a quit is a day of freedom from slavery to nicotine. You are no more quit at 1,000 than at 35. Don't look too far into the future because that can become unmanageable. A single day is always always manageable if you use the tools this site has to offer.
The second thing is looking back on day 1 should be encouraging to you not making it more difficult. Day 1 is the single worst day of your quit. That day you were a broken, down and out, addict. Then you took the power back. Don't ever forget how badly you felt physically, emotionally and psychologically that day. Every day you put between you and that day is a day that you controlled your addiction instead of the other way around. If you don't forget how bad it was when you got here, you're much less likely to go back to posting another day 1.
If you tweak the mindset just a bit, you will have even more power and motivation to see to it that today is not the day you break your promises to this house of bad asses.
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rkymtnman dropping some words of wisdom. Take these words to heart quitters... This is gold.
https://www.killthecan.org/it-gets-better/ (https://www.killthecan.org/it-gets-better/)
Epic.
yeah my hardest days were 101 - 150. Geez. It was like day 1 all over again. So glad i found this place and the quitters herein. Newbies and Vets alike.
Man, I didn't need to hear that on my day 5.
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rkymtnman dropping some words of wisdom. Take these words to heart quitters... This is gold.
https://www.killthecan.org/it-gets-better/ (https://www.killthecan.org/it-gets-better/)
Epic.
yeah my hardest days were 101 - 150. Geez. It was like day 1 all over again. So glad i found this place and the quitters herein. Newbies and Vets alike.
Man, I didn't need to hear that on my day 5.
Take it in stride. Worry about Day 150 on day 150.
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rkymtnman dropping some words of wisdom. Take these words to heart quitters... This is gold.
https://www.killthecan.org/it-gets-better/ (https://www.killthecan.org/it-gets-better/)
Epic.
yeah my hardest days were 101 - 150. Geez. It was like day 1 all over again. So glad i found this place and the quitters herein. Newbies and Vets alike.
Man, I didn't need to hear that on my day 5.
Take it in stride. Worry about Day 150 on day 150.
Amen PKY.
Sorry Grizzly, didnt mean to alarm you. Trust me there was some great easy days from 5 to 101.. really easy days for me anyway. Everyone is different. My tough days came later, some come early.
I think what happened to me is common, - post HOF Let down. I had a goal to make 100 and i made it and thought "Really? Is this all there is?"
Guess I was expecting some sort of Eureka moment once I reached HOF.
After I lingered through the 100-150 the light bulb went off for me, - ' get your ass back into Introductions and General Discussions and encourage the newbies, help guide someone transitioning from lurker to joining to posting to milestones.'
Once I started doing that and satisfaction followed (and still follows to this day) I try and find a newbie, reach out, text, PM, support them EDD on roll. Then as they get to HOF I feel so damn good its almost like I AM GOING INTO HOF every time. Dude sometimes I get to the HOF a few times a week, how great is that??
Total satisfaction
Im not the baddest ass quitter on this site, I could come here more often, I could join live chat (not my thing), I could be more active, post in more groups, but I do what I can when i can. I am a small part of success of a small but growing number of quitters here, and man when these quitters reach milestones, those are my eureka moments!
Quit on!!!
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Question for the vets or anybody really. I'm on day 60. Since quitting, I've developed a sensation of a lump in my throat. That was first. Then I got a feeling that my tongue was going numb from time to time. I still experience both of those, and lately I've been dealing with a dry mouth, and thick/tacky saliva. I've been to two Docs, both think all the symptoms are from acid reflux and not drinking enough water. I'm now taking prescription Pepcid, and have been for about 20 days, and I still feel the same. I feel like I'm drinking a shit ton of water too. I'm just getting concerned, and the anxiety of quitting combined with anxiety that something is wrong with me is not helping. I'm just curious at day 60, did anybody else have similar experiences? I didn't have any of these symptoms until the week I quit.
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Question for the vets or anybody really. I'm on day 60. Since quitting, I've developed a sensation of a lump in my throat. That was first. Then I got a feeling that my tongue was going numb from time to time. I still experience both of those, and lately I've been dealing with a dry mouth, and thick/tacky saliva. I've been to two Docs, both think all the symptoms are from acid reflux and not drinking enough water. I'm now taking prescription Pepcid, and have been for about 20 days, and I still feel the same. I feel like I'm drinking a shit ton of water too. I'm just getting concerned, and the anxiety of quitting combined with anxiety that something is wrong with me is not helping. I'm just curious at day 60, did anybody else have similar experiences? I didn't have any of these symptoms until the week I quit.
Quitting almost always comes with some weird and concerning side effects. Those symptoms that you describe are pretty common, although usually have passed by day 60.
Everyone is different, so who knows why your body might still be reacting that far out. It could be unrelated, maybe it's not. Generally, I'd say trust the doctors and it will pass.
Have you been to ENT specialist? They might have better perspective than family practice.
I guess just keep hydrating, take what the docs give you and monitor. If you're really not improving, get another opinion.
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rkymtnman dropping some words of wisdom. Take these words to heart quitters... This is gold.
https://www.killthecan.org/it-gets-better/ (https://www.killthecan.org/it-gets-better/)
Epic.
yeah my hardest days were 101 - 150. Geez. It was like day 1 all over again. So glad i found this place and the quitters herein. Newbies and Vets alike.
Man, I didn't need to hear that on my day 5.
Take it in stride. Worry about Day 150 on day 150.
That's fair and I new it when I posted that.
I was here in a nic crave-wave and that part pissed me off.
I have no doubts you all can relate...
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Question for the vets or anybody really. I'm on day 60. Since quitting, I've developed a sensation of a lump in my throat. That was first. Then I got a feeling that my tongue was going numb from time to time. I still experience both of those, and lately I've been dealing with a dry mouth, and thick/tacky saliva. I've been to two Docs, both think all the symptoms are from acid reflux and not drinking enough water. I'm now taking prescription Pepcid, and have been for about 20 days, and I still feel the same. I feel like I'm drinking a shit ton of water too. I'm just getting concerned, and the anxiety of quitting combined with anxiety that something is wrong with me is not helping. I'm just curious at day 60, did anybody else have similar experiences? I didn't have any of these symptoms until the week I quit.
Quitting almost always comes with some weird and concerning side effects. Those symptoms that you describe are pretty common, although usually have passed by day 60.
Everyone is different, so who knows why your body might still be reacting that far out. It could be unrelated, maybe it's not. Generally, I'd say trust the doctors and it will pass.
Have you been to ENT specialist? They might have better perspective than family practice.
I guess just keep hydrating, take what the docs give you and monitor. If you're really not improving, get another opinion.
Agree with pky. The side effects can be weird and concerning, especially when you didn't notice them before. Chances are the symptoms were there, but because your mouth was all jacked from the dip, you may not have realized it. I had a lot of acid reflux when I was dipping and it has since gone for the most part, but that took a couple hundred days (although I wasn't taking any medication outside of the occasional Tums). Get to the ENT if you're really concerned, but I'd stick with the doc's orders for a bit and see if that doesn't help get things turned around.
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Question for the vets or anybody really. I'm on day 60. Since quitting, I've developed a sensation of a lump in my throat. That was first. Then I got a feeling that my tongue was going numb from time to time. I still experience both of those, and lately I've been dealing with a dry mouth, and thick/tacky saliva. I've been to two Docs, both think all the symptoms are from acid reflux and not drinking enough water. I'm now taking prescription Pepcid, and have been for about 20 days, and I still feel the same. I feel like I'm drinking a shit ton of water too. I'm just getting concerned, and the anxiety of quitting combined with anxiety that something is wrong with me is not helping. I'm just curious at day 60, did anybody else have similar experiences? I didn't have any of these symptoms until the week I quit.
Quitting almost always comes with some weird and concerning side effects. Those symptoms that you describe are pretty common, although usually have passed by day 60.
Everyone is different, so who knows why your body might still be reacting that far out. It could be unrelated, maybe it's not. Generally, I'd say trust the doctors and it will pass.
Have you been to ENT specialist? They might have better perspective than family practice.
I guess just keep hydrating, take what the docs give you and monitor. If you're really not improving, get another opinion.
Yeah, I've been to an ENT and my family Doc. Dentist also. All see nothing wrong. The ENT said if he had to diagnose anything, it would be acid reflux which is causing laryngitis. Oh, well, I guess I can't expect to heal overnight (or in 60 days) after dipping a can per day for 18-20 years.
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I had acid reflux so bad then quit chew and in a few months it ALL went away
Pure poison we've been putting in our bodies. No wonder it takes so long to heal
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Question for the vets or anybody really. I'm on day 60. Since quitting, I've developed a sensation of a lump in my throat. That was first. Then I got a feeling that my tongue was going numb from time to time. I still experience both of those, and lately I've been dealing with a dry mouth, and thick/tacky saliva. I've been to two Docs, both think all the symptoms are from acid reflux and not drinking enough water. I'm now taking prescription Pepcid, and have been for about 20 days, and I still feel the same. I feel like I'm drinking a shit ton of water too. I'm just getting concerned, and the anxiety of quitting combined with anxiety that something is wrong with me is not helping. I'm just curious at day 60, did anybody else have similar experiences? I didn't have any of these symptoms until the week I quit.
Quitting almost always comes with some weird and concerning side effects. Those symptoms that you describe are pretty common, although usually have passed by day 60.
Everyone is different, so who knows why your body might still be reacting that far out. It could be unrelated, maybe it's not. Generally, I'd say trust the doctors and it will pass.
Have you been to ENT specialist? They might have better perspective than family practice.
I guess just keep hydrating, take what the docs give you and monitor. If you're really not improving, get another opinion.
Yeah, I've been to an ENT and my family Doc. Dentist also. All see nothing wrong. The ENT said if he had to diagnose anything, it would be acid reflux which is causing laryngitis. Oh, well, I guess I can't expect to heal overnight (or in 60 days) after dipping a can per day for 18-20 years.
I had reflux for years before I quit.
It got FAR worse after I quit. Bad enough to where I went to the ENT and had my throat scoped.
They had me on pretty much the strongest stuff available (can't remember the name of it) and I had nights when I literally felt like I couldn't swallow. Also had nights (2 to be exact) where my reflux was so bad that it mimicked a heart attack... right down to the tingling left arm that we hear so much about. 2 times I took myself to the ER for a full scan and 2 times I was told I have acid reflux and anxiety from quitting.
Fast forward to my 100 day (ish) mark, my reflux and anxiety were better but not great. It helped that I knew what it was but I still thought "cancer" every time I had the chance.
To make a long story short... I haven't even had so much as a Tums in years. All reflux gone, all medicine gone, all throat issues and anxiety gone.
Quitting is a wonderful thing. Keep up the good fight brother.
Chewie
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Joined the site back in January 2012, never frequented or posted roll call. Forgot about the site. Quit here and there over the last 5.5 years. Even quit for 14 months at one point. I see the same comments/excuses I have used for why I kept going back. The links to this site just started showing up in my FB feed for some reason in the last 2 weeks. I've chewed regularly (read as bought my own) for the last 9 years, but chewed when it was offered since 8th grade or so back in 1984. Sitting at works dropping the full can plus a dips worth in the garbage right now, the rest of the roll once I get home. $14 and change down the drain: think cold turkey is the only way, and how I did it for 14 months. Can't say I will be here daily to post roll call, but I'm done with the can. No sores or concerns, clear mouth cancer screens at the dentist for the last 3 years, it is just time. Really only have 1 or 2 friends that chew when I am around them (and that is pretty infrequently) so no big push to get back on it. Good luck to all!
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Joined the site back in January 2012, never frequented or posted roll call. Forgot about the site. Quit here and there over the last 5.5 years. Even quit for 14 months at one point. I see the same comments/excuses I have used for why I kept going back. The links to this site just started showing up in my FB feed for some reason in the last 2 weeks. I've chewed regularly (read as bought my own) for the last 9 years, but chewed when it was offered since 8th grade or so back in 1984. Sitting at works dropping the full can plus a dips worth in the garbage right now, the rest of the roll once I get home. $14 and change down the drain: think cold turkey is the only way, and how I did it for 14 months. Can't say I will be here daily to post roll call, but I'm done with the can. No sores or concerns, clear mouth cancer screens at the dentist for the last 3 years, it is just time. Really only have 1 or 2 friends that chew when I am around them (and that is pretty infrequently) so no big push to get back on it. Good luck to all!
Can't say I will be here daily to post roll call
Why not? You joined this site 5.5 years ago and have been trying to quit ever since. That's 5.5 years of wasted money, time, health and freedom. It sounds like your approach is no different than what it has been since 2012, why would you expect the outcome to be different?
If you really, absolutely want to quit, have to quit, will do anything to quit, why wouldn't you commit to posting roll? It takes significantly less time than dipping, it's significantly more effective than trying to quit on your own (as your track record confirms) and it's free. If you really want to make this happen, why aren't you doing everything in your power to accomplish that? If you're not that serious and not sure that you want to stay quit, then just save yourself the headache and keep dipping, because you can't succeed at this half assed.
I'm not trying to badger you, but do want to understand where you're coming from.
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Joined the site back in January 2012, never frequented or posted roll call. Forgot about the site. Quit here and there over the last 5.5 years. Even quit for 14 months at one point. I see the same comments/excuses I have used for why I kept going back. The links to this site just started showing up in my FB feed for some reason in the last 2 weeks. I've chewed regularly (read as bought my own) for the last 9 years, but chewed when it was offered since 8th grade or so back in 1984. Sitting at works dropping the full can plus a dips worth in the garbage right now, the rest of the roll once I get home. $14 and change down the drain: think cold turkey is the only way, and how I did it for 14 months. Can't say I will be here daily to post roll call, but I'm done with the can. No sores or concerns, clear mouth cancer screens at the dentist for the last 3 years, it is just time. Really only have 1 or 2 friends that chew when I am around them (and that is pretty infrequently) so no big push to get back on it. Good luck to all!
Can't say I will be here daily to post roll call
Why not? You joined this site 5.5 years ago and have been trying to quit ever since. That's 5.5 years of wasted money, time, health and freedom. It sounds like your approach is no different than what it has been since 2012, why would you expect the outcome to be different?
If you really, absolutely want to quit, have to quit, will do anything to quit, why wouldn't you commit to posting roll? It takes significantly less time than dipping, it's significantly more effective than trying to quit on your own (as your track record confirms) and it's free. If you really want to make this happen, why aren't you doing everything in your power to accomplish that? If you're not that serious and not sure that you want to stay quit, then just save yourself the headache and keep dipping, because you can't succeed at this half assed.
I'm not trying to badger you, but do want to understand where you're coming from.
69Franx......half-assed effort only gives half assed results......
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Joined the site back in January 2012, never frequented or posted roll call. Forgot about the site. Quit here and there over the last 5.5 years. Even quit for 14 months at one point. I see the same comments/excuses I have used for why I kept going back. The links to this site just started showing up in my FB feed for some reason in the last 2 weeks. I've chewed regularly (read as bought my own) for the last 9 years, but chewed when it was offered since 8th grade or so back in 1984. Sitting at works dropping the full can plus a dips worth in the garbage right now, the rest of the roll once I get home. $14 and change down the drain: think cold turkey is the only way, and how I did it for 14 months. Can't say I will be here daily to post roll call, but I'm done with the can. No sores or concerns, clear mouth cancer screens at the dentist for the last 3 years, it is just time. Really only have 1 or 2 friends that chew when I am around them (and that is pretty infrequently) so no big push to get back on it. Good luck to all!
Can't say I will be here daily to post roll call
Why not? You joined this site 5.5 years ago and have been trying to quit ever since. That's 5.5 years of wasted money, time, health and freedom. It sounds like your approach is no different than what it has been since 2012, why would you expect the outcome to be different?
If you really, absolutely want to quit, have to quit, will do anything to quit, why wouldn't you commit to posting roll? It takes significantly less time than dipping, it's significantly more effective than trying to quit on your own (as your track record confirms) and it's free. If you really want to make this happen, why aren't you doing everything in your power to accomplish that? If you're not that serious and not sure that you want to stay quit, then just save yourself the headache and keep dipping, because you can't succeed at this half assed.
I'm not trying to badger you, but do want to understand where you're coming from.
69Franx......half-assed effort only gives half assed results......
B-I-N-G-O
Go all in or go home bro
So 'nothing has worked in the past' 'always found my way back' sounds like 100% of the people in here. Its time to do something different 69. What you've done in the past doesn't seem to effective.
Posting my daily quit promise has kept me quit for 716 days from 25+ years of dip madness.
Ready to be a bad ass quitter?
Ready to join us, ALL-IN?
Your quit is right here waiting for you, will you grab it?
I sure hope so
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Joined the site back in January 2012, never frequented or posted roll call. Forgot about the site. Quit here and there over the last 5.5 years. Even quit for 14 months at one point. I see the same comments/excuses I have used for why I kept going back. The links to this site just started showing up in my FB feed for some reason in the last 2 weeks. I've chewed regularly (read as bought my own) for the last 9 years, but chewed when it was offered since 8th grade or so back in 1984. Sitting at works dropping the full can plus a dips worth in the garbage right now, the rest of the roll once I get home. $14 and change down the drain: think cold turkey is the only way, and how I did it for 14 months. Can't say I will be here daily to post roll call, but I'm done with the can. No sores or concerns, clear mouth cancer screens at the dentist for the last 3 years, it is just time. Really only have 1 or 2 friends that chew when I am around them (and that is pretty infrequently) so no big push to get back on it. Good luck to all!
Can't say I will be here daily to post roll call
Why not? You joined this site 5.5 years ago and have been trying to quit ever since. That's 5.5 years of wasted money, time, health and freedom. It sounds like your approach is no different than what it has been since 2012, why would you expect the outcome to be different?
If you really, absolutely want to quit, have to quit, will do anything to quit, why wouldn't you commit to posting roll? It takes significantly less time than dipping, it's significantly more effective than trying to quit on your own (as your track record confirms) and it's free. If you really want to make this happen, why aren't you doing everything in your power to accomplish that? If you're not that serious and not sure that you want to stay quit, then just save yourself the headache and keep dipping, because you can't succeed at this half assed.
I'm not trying to badger you, but do want to understand where you're coming from.
69Franx......half-assed effort only gives half assed results......
B-I-N-G-O
Go all in or go home bro
So 'nothing has worked in the past' 'always found my way back' sounds like 100% of the people in here. Its time to do something different 69. What you've done in the past doesn't seem to effective.
Posting my daily quit promise has kept me quit for 716 days from 25+ years of dip madness.
Ready to be a bad ass quitter?
Ready to join us, ALL-IN?
Your quit is right here waiting for you, will you grab it?
I sure hope so
JB65, thanx for your supportive message. My intro may not have been exactly what I wanted to say. The main point was that the FB postings are what brought me back here, especially the one about "you did not get to our web page by mistake" or whatever it was exactly. My statement on not calling roll everyday was obviously not well informed. I posted without really checking out the site and beginner info. Your words were supportive, understanding and I am grabbing my quit, over 24 hours in now, with no issues yet but I know it will come soon. Thanx again
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Joined the site back in January 2012, never frequented or posted roll call. Forgot about the site. Quit here and there over the last 5.5 years. Even quit for 14 months at one point. I see the same comments/excuses I have used for why I kept going back. The links to this site just started showing up in my FB feed for some reason in the last 2 weeks. I've chewed regularly (read as bought my own) for the last 9 years, but chewed when it was offered since 8th grade or so back in 1984. Sitting at works dropping the full can plus a dips worth in the garbage right now, the rest of the roll once I get home. $14 and change down the drain: think cold turkey is the only way, and how I did it for 14 months. Can't say I will be here daily to post roll call, but I'm done with the can. No sores or concerns, clear mouth cancer screens at the dentist for the last 3 years, it is just time. Really only have 1 or 2 friends that chew when I am around them (and that is pretty infrequently) so no big push to get back on it. Good luck to all!
Can't say I will be here daily to post roll call
Why not? You joined this site 5.5 years ago and have been trying to quit ever since. That's 5.5 years of wasted money, time, health and freedom. It sounds like your approach is no different than what it has been since 2012, why would you expect the outcome to be different?
If you really, absolutely want to quit, have to quit, will do anything to quit, why wouldn't you commit to posting roll? It takes significantly less time than dipping, it's significantly more effective than trying to quit on your own (as your track record confirms) and it's free. If you really want to make this happen, why aren't you doing everything in your power to accomplish that? If you're not that serious and not sure that you want to stay quit, then just save yourself the headache and keep dipping, because you can't succeed at this half assed.
I'm not trying to badger you, but do want to understand where you're coming from.
69Franx......half-assed effort only gives half assed results......
B-I-N-G-O
Go all in or go home bro
So 'nothing has worked in the past' 'always found my way back' sounds like 100% of the people in here. Its time to do something different 69. What you've done in the past doesn't seem to effective.
Posting my daily quit promise has kept me quit for 716 days from 25+ years of dip madness.
Ready to be a bad ass quitter?
Ready to join us, ALL-IN?
Your quit is right here waiting for you, will you grab it?
I sure hope so
JB65, thanx for your supportive message. My intro may not have been exactly what I wanted to say. The main point was that the FB postings are what brought me back here, especially the one about "you did not get to our web page by mistake" or whatever it was exactly. My statement on not calling roll everyday was obviously not well informed. I posted without really checking out the site and beginner info. Your words were supportive, understanding and I am grabbing my quit, over 24 hours in now, with no issues yet but I know it will come soon. Thanx again
The issues will come and go, but if you abide the spirit of this place (Accountability + Brotherhood = Success), you will be able to handle it. This place doesn't teach you how to get rid of your addiction because (at least so far) that's impossible. What it does is give you the tools to handle any situation that your addiction can put you in. That's why this place is different and why it works. There's an ancient Lao Tzu saying: Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day, teach a man to fish and he'll eat for a lifetime. This place teaches you how to fish when it comes to your addiction to nicotine.
The tools are there for the taking, but you have to buy in all the way. ALL the way. EVERY day. It's worked for me 754 days in a row. It'll work for you too if you let it.
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Joined the site back in January 2012, never frequented or posted roll call. Forgot about the site. Quit here and there over the last 5.5 years. Even quit for 14 months at one point. I see the same comments/excuses I have used for why I kept going back. The links to this site just started showing up in my FB feed for some reason in the last 2 weeks. I've chewed regularly (read as bought my own) for the last 9 years, but chewed when it was offered since 8th grade or so back in 1984. Sitting at works dropping the full can plus a dips worth in the garbage right now, the rest of the roll once I get home. $14 and change down the drain: think cold turkey is the only way, and how I did it for 14 months. Can't say I will be here daily to post roll call, but I'm done with the can. No sores or concerns, clear mouth cancer screens at the dentist for the last 3 years, it is just time. Really only have 1 or 2 friends that chew when I am around them (and that is pretty infrequently) so no big push to get back on it. Good luck to all!
Can't say I will be here daily to post roll call
Why not? You joined this site 5.5 years ago and have been trying to quit ever since. That's 5.5 years of wasted money, time, health and freedom. It sounds like your approach is no different than what it has been since 2012, why would you expect the outcome to be different?
If you really, absolutely want to quit, have to quit, will do anything to quit, why wouldn't you commit to posting roll? It takes significantly less time than dipping, it's significantly more effective than trying to quit on your own (as your track record confirms) and it's free. If you really want to make this happen, why aren't you doing everything in your power to accomplish that? If you're not that serious and not sure that you want to stay quit, then just save yourself the headache and keep dipping, because you can't succeed at this half assed.
I'm not trying to badger you, but do want to understand where you're coming from.
69Franx......half-assed effort only gives half assed results......
B-I-N-G-O
Go all in or go home bro
So 'nothing has worked in the past' 'always found my way back' sounds like 100% of the people in here. Its time to do something different 69. What you've done in the past doesn't seem to effective.
Posting my daily quit promise has kept me quit for 716 days from 25+ years of dip madness.
Ready to be a bad ass quitter?
Ready to join us, ALL-IN?
Your quit is right here waiting for you, will you grab it?
I sure hope so
JB65, thanx for your supportive message. My intro may not have been exactly what I wanted to say. The main point was that the FB postings are what brought me back here, especially the one about "you did not get to our web page by mistake" or whatever it was exactly. My statement on not calling roll everyday was obviously not well informed. I posted without really checking out the site and beginner info. Your words were supportive, understanding and I am grabbing my quit, over 24 hours in now, with no issues yet but I know it will come soon. Thanx again
The issues will come and go, but if you abide the spirit of this place (Accountability + Brotherhood = Success), you will be able to handle it. This place doesn't teach you how to get rid of your addiction because (at least so far) that's impossible. What it does is give you the tools to handle any situation that your addiction can put you in. That's why this place is different and why it works. There's an ancient Lao Tzu saying: Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day, teach a man to fish and he'll eat for a lifetime. This place teaches you how to fish when it comes to your addiction to nicotine.
The tools are there for the taking, but you have to buy in all the way. ALL the way. EVERY day. It's worked for me 754 days in a row. It'll work for you too if you let it.
Glad to see you post roll brother! This really will keep you quit if you value your word
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Joined the site back in January 2012, never frequented or posted roll call. Forgot about the site. Quit here and there over the last 5.5 years. Even quit for 14 months at one point. I see the same comments/excuses I have used for why I kept going back. The links to this site just started showing up in my FB feed for some reason in the last 2 weeks. I've chewed regularly (read as bought my own) for the last 9 years, but chewed when it was offered since 8th grade or so back in 1984. Sitting at works dropping the full can plus a dips worth in the garbage right now, the rest of the roll once I get home. $14 and change down the drain: think cold turkey is the only way, and how I did it for 14 months. Can't say I will be here daily to post roll call, but I'm done with the can. No sores or concerns, clear mouth cancer screens at the dentist for the last 3 years, it is just time. Really only have 1 or 2 friends that chew when I am around them (and that is pretty infrequently) so no big push to get back on it. Good luck to all!
Can't say I will be here daily to post roll call
Why not? You joined this site 5.5 years ago and have been trying to quit ever since. That's 5.5 years of wasted money, time, health and freedom. It sounds like your approach is no different than what it has been since 2012, why would you expect the outcome to be different?
If you really, absolutely want to quit, have to quit, will do anything to quit, why wouldn't you commit to posting roll? It takes significantly less time than dipping, it's significantly more effective than trying to quit on your own (as your track record confirms) and it's free. If you really want to make this happen, why aren't you doing everything in your power to accomplish that? If you're not that serious and not sure that you want to stay quit, then just save yourself the headache and keep dipping, because you can't succeed at this half assed.
I'm not trying to badger you, but do want to understand where you're coming from.
69Franx......half-assed effort only gives half assed results......
B-I-N-G-O
Go all in or go home bro
So 'nothing has worked in the past' 'always found my way back' sounds like 100% of the people in here. Its time to do something different 69. What you've done in the past doesn't seem to effective.
Posting my daily quit promise has kept me quit for 716 days from 25+ years of dip madness.
Ready to be a bad ass quitter?
Ready to join us, ALL-IN?
Your quit is right here waiting for you, will you grab it?
I sure hope so
JB65, thanx for your supportive message. My intro may not have been exactly what I wanted to say. The main point was that the FB postings are what brought me back here, especially the one about "you did not get to our web page by mistake" or whatever it was exactly. My statement on not calling roll everyday was obviously not well informed. I posted without really checking out the site and beginner info. Your words were supportive, understanding and I am grabbing my quit, over 24 hours in now, with no issues yet but I know it will come soon. Thanx again
The issues will come and go, but if you abide the spirit of this place (Accountability + Brotherhood = Success), you will be able to handle it. This place doesn't teach you how to get rid of your addiction because (at least so far) that's impossible. What it does is give you the tools to handle any situation that your addiction can put you in. That's why this place is different and why it works. There's an ancient Lao Tzu saying: Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day, teach a man to fish and he'll eat for a lifetime. This place teaches you how to fish when it comes to your addiction to nicotine.
The tools are there for the taking, but you have to buy in all the way. ALL the way. EVERY day. It's worked for me 754 days in a row. It'll work for you too if you let it.
Glad to see you post roll brother! This really will keep you quit if you value your word
U got this Franx! We are with you brother 30,000 strong!!!
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4 days in and going strong. Yesterday was not fun, nor the headache I had upon waking this morning. Thanx to all that post for your support
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Joined the site back in January 2012, never frequented or posted roll call. Forgot about the site. Quit here and there over the last 5.5 years. Even quit for 14 months at one point. I see the same comments/excuses I have used for why I kept going back. The links to this site just started showing up in my FB feed for some reason in the last 2 weeks. I've chewed regularly (read as bought my own) for the last 9 years, but chewed when it was offered since 8th grade or so back in 1984. Sitting at works dropping the full can plus a dips worth in the garbage right now, the rest of the roll once I get home. $14 and change down the drain: think cold turkey is the only way, and how I did it for 14 months. Can't say I will be here daily to post roll call, but I'm done with the can. No sores or concerns, clear mouth cancer screens at the dentist for the last 3 years, it is just time. Really only have 1 or 2 friends that chew when I am around them (and that is pretty infrequently) so no big push to get back on it. Good luck to all!
Can't say I will be here daily to post roll call
Why not? You joined this site 5.5 years ago and have been trying to quit ever since. That's 5.5 years of wasted money, time, health and freedom. It sounds like your approach is no different than what it has been since 2012, why would you expect the outcome to be different?
If you really, absolutely want to quit, have to quit, will do anything to quit, why wouldn't you commit to posting roll? It takes significantly less time than dipping, it's significantly more effective than trying to quit on your own (as your track record confirms) and it's free. If you really want to make this happen, why aren't you doing everything in your power to accomplish that? If you're not that serious and not sure that you want to stay quit, then just save yourself the headache and keep dipping, because you can't succeed at this half assed.
I'm not trying to badger you, but do want to understand where you're coming from.
69Franx......half-assed effort only gives half assed results......
B-I-N-G-O
Go all in or go home bro
So 'nothing has worked in the past' 'always found my way back' sounds like 100% of the people in here. Its time to do something different 69. What you've done in the past doesn't seem to effective.
Posting my daily quit promise has kept me quit for 716 days from 25+ years of dip madness.
Ready to be a bad ass quitter?
Ready to join us, ALL-IN?
Your quit is right here waiting for you, will you grab it?
I sure hope so
JB65, thanx for your supportive message. My intro may not have been exactly what I wanted to say. The main point was that the FB postings are what brought me back here, especially the one about "you did not get to our web page by mistake" or whatever it was exactly. My statement on not calling roll everyday was obviously not well informed. I posted without really checking out the site and beginner info. Your words were supportive, understanding and I am grabbing my quit, over 24 hours in now, with no issues yet but I know it will come soon. Thanx again
The issues will come and go, but if you abide the spirit of this place (Accountability + Brotherhood = Success), you will be able to handle it. This place doesn't teach you how to get rid of your addiction because (at least so far) that's impossible. What it does is give you the tools to handle any situation that your addiction can put you in. That's why this place is different and why it works. There's an ancient Lao Tzu saying: Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day, teach a man to fish and he'll eat for a lifetime. This place teaches you how to fish when it comes to your addiction to nicotine.
The tools are there for the taking, but you have to buy in all the way. ALL the way. EVERY day. It's worked for me 754 days in a row. It'll work for you too if you let it.
Glad to see you post roll brother! This really will keep you quit if you value your word
U got this Franx! We are with you brother 30,000 strong!!!
Actually, 30,000 is not quite accurate. Based on the number of active posters on the first three pages (of 612 'active' quitters), there's about 600-700 who are "strong" in the quit. The rest either never were or have faltered in the faith. Just pointing out the obvious....
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Joined the site back in January 2012, never frequented or posted roll call. Forgot about the site. Quit here and there over the last 5.5 years. Even quit for 14 months at one point. I see the same comments/excuses I have used for why I kept going back. The links to this site just started showing up in my FB feed for some reason in the last 2 weeks. I've chewed regularly (read as bought my own) for the last 9 years, but chewed when it was offered since 8th grade or so back in 1984. Sitting at works dropping the full can plus a dips worth in the garbage right now, the rest of the roll once I get home. $14 and change down the drain: think cold turkey is the only way, and how I did it for 14 months. Can't say I will be here daily to post roll call, but I'm done with the can. No sores or concerns, clear mouth cancer screens at the dentist for the last 3 years, it is just time. Really only have 1 or 2 friends that chew when I am around them (and that is pretty infrequently) so no big push to get back on it. Good luck to all!
Can't say I will be here daily to post roll call
Why not? You joined this site 5.5 years ago and have been trying to quit ever since. That's 5.5 years of wasted money, time, health and freedom. It sounds like your approach is no different than what it has been since 2012, why would you expect the outcome to be different?
If you really, absolutely want to quit, have to quit, will do anything to quit, why wouldn't you commit to posting roll? It takes significantly less time than dipping, it's significantly more effective than trying to quit on your own (as your track record confirms) and it's free. If you really want to make this happen, why aren't you doing everything in your power to accomplish that? If you're not that serious and not sure that you want to stay quit, then just save yourself the headache and keep dipping, because you can't succeed at this half assed.
I'm not trying to badger you, but do want to understand where you're coming from.
69Franx......half-assed effort only gives half assed results......
B-I-N-G-O
Go all in or go home bro
So 'nothing has worked in the past' 'always found my way back' sounds like 100% of the people in here. Its time to do something different 69. What you've done in the past doesn't seem to effective.
Posting my daily quit promise has kept me quit for 716 days from 25+ years of dip madness.
Ready to be a bad ass quitter?
Ready to join us, ALL-IN?
Your quit is right here waiting for you, will you grab it?
I sure hope so
JB65, thanx for your supportive message. My intro may not have been exactly what I wanted to say. The main point was that the FB postings are what brought me back here, especially the one about "you did not get to our web page by mistake" or whatever it was exactly. My statement on not calling roll everyday was obviously not well informed. I posted without really checking out the site and beginner info. Your words were supportive, understanding and I am grabbing my quit, over 24 hours in now, with no issues yet but I know it will come soon. Thanx again
The issues will come and go, but if you abide the spirit of this place (Accountability + Brotherhood = Success), you will be able to handle it. This place doesn't teach you how to get rid of your addiction because (at least so far) that's impossible. What it does is give you the tools to handle any situation that your addiction can put you in. That's why this place is different and why it works. There's an ancient Lao Tzu saying: Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day, teach a man to fish and he'll eat for a lifetime. This place teaches you how to fish when it comes to your addiction to nicotine.
The tools are there for the taking, but you have to buy in all the way. ALL the way. EVERY day. It's worked for me 754 days in a row. It'll work for you too if you let it.
Glad to see you post roll brother! This really will keep you quit if you value your word
U got this Franx! We are with you brother 30,000 strong!!!
Actually, 30,000 is not quite accurate. Based on the number of active posters on the first three pages (of 612 'active' quitters), there's about 600-700 who are "strong" in the quit. The rest either never were or have faltered in the faith. Just pointing out the obvious....
I like to think that there are many "alumni" who have come and gone and stayed quit.
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Joined the site back in January 2012, never frequented or posted roll call. Forgot about the site. Quit here and there over the last 5.5 years. Even quit for 14 months at one point. I see the same comments/excuses I have used for why I kept going back. The links to this site just started showing up in my FB feed for some reason in the last 2 weeks. I've chewed regularly (read as bought my own) for the last 9 years, but chewed when it was offered since 8th grade or so back in 1984. Sitting at works dropping the full can plus a dips worth in the garbage right now, the rest of the roll once I get home. $14 and change down the drain: think cold turkey is the only way, and how I did it for 14 months. Can't say I will be here daily to post roll call, but I'm done with the can. No sores or concerns, clear mouth cancer screens at the dentist for the last 3 years, it is just time. Really only have 1 or 2 friends that chew when I am around them (and that is pretty infrequently) so no big push to get back on it. Good luck to all!
Can't say I will be here daily to post roll call
Why not? You joined this site 5.5 years ago and have been trying to quit ever since. That's 5.5 years of wasted money, time, health and freedom. It sounds like your approach is no different than what it has been since 2012, why would you expect the outcome to be different?
If you really, absolutely want to quit, have to quit, will do anything to quit, why wouldn't you commit to posting roll? It takes significantly less time than dipping, it's significantly more effective than trying to quit on your own (as your track record confirms) and it's free. If you really want to make this happen, why aren't you doing everything in your power to accomplish that? If you're not that serious and not sure that you want to stay quit, then just save yourself the headache and keep dipping, because you can't succeed at this half assed.
I'm not trying to badger you, but do want to understand where you're coming from.
69Franx......half-assed effort only gives half assed results......
B-I-N-G-O
Go all in or go home bro
So 'nothing has worked in the past' 'always found my way back' sounds like 100% of the people in here. Its time to do something different 69. What you've done in the past doesn't seem to effective.
Posting my daily quit promise has kept me quit for 716 days from 25+ years of dip madness.
Ready to be a bad ass quitter?
Ready to join us, ALL-IN?
Your quit is right here waiting for you, will you grab it?
I sure hope so
JB65, thanx for your supportive message. My intro may not have been exactly what I wanted to say. The main point was that the FB postings are what brought me back here, especially the one about "you did not get to our web page by mistake" or whatever it was exactly. My statement on not calling roll everyday was obviously not well informed. I posted without really checking out the site and beginner info. Your words were supportive, understanding and I am grabbing my quit, over 24 hours in now, with no issues yet but I know it will come soon. Thanx again
The issues will come and go, but if you abide the spirit of this place (Accountability + Brotherhood = Success), you will be able to handle it. This place doesn't teach you how to get rid of your addiction because (at least so far) that's impossible. What it does is give you the tools to handle any situation that your addiction can put you in. That's why this place is different and why it works. There's an ancient Lao Tzu saying: Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day, teach a man to fish and he'll eat for a lifetime. This place teaches you how to fish when it comes to your addiction to nicotine.
The tools are there for the taking, but you have to buy in all the way. ALL the way. EVERY day. It's worked for me 754 days in a row. It'll work for you too if you let it.
Glad to see you post roll brother! This really will keep you quit if you value your word
U got this Franx! We are with you brother 30,000 strong!!!
Actually, 30,000 is not quite accurate. Based on the number of active posters on the first three pages (of 612 'active' quitters), there's about 600-700 who are "strong" in the quit. The rest either never were or have faltered in the faith. Just pointing out the obvious....
I like to think that there are many "alumni" who have come and gone and stayed quit.
Hope you're right PKY.....but then again, hope is not a method....
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1 week in, and no nicotine. I have posted roll every day and avoided any and all cravings. Thanx all for the support
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1 week in, and no nicotine. I have posted roll every day and avoided any and all cravings. Thanx all for the support
bravo! way to go!
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So I've been thinking....the entire premise of this site is to get folks to quit (whether that's dip, chew, smokes, whatever).... So what do we do to try and reinforce the quit among nascent "almost quitters". There are a goodly number of folks who come here, post an intro, maybe even a roll post, and then vanish. I remember what it was like before me finding this place; with no accountability, no one holding your feet to the fire, no promise made, it was easy to collapse after some half-hearted attempt at quitting. That ended the day I posted my day one... This place absolutely works for those who work the system and have a shred of integrity.
But back to the premise....and what do we do with the "almost quitters"? I think, without us turning into some internet stalker, that we should make an honest effort to reach out to them with an email (most quitters' profiles have a link to email them through the KTC system). I propose that committed quitters flood the inboxes of those who are nearly there, but not quite, with an email something along the lines of the following:
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(Insert name of prospective quitter here),
I see you posted an (intro, day one, etc....), but have noticed your absence since then. When you finally make your mind up to be quit (and what I wouldn't have given XX years ago to be quit at 21!!!), pull yourself up by the short-hairs, put on your big-boy britches, and come on back to KTC. I know this place works, because it worked for me, a nearly FOUR DECADE abuser of Copenhagen (insert your own period of active stupidity here). I also know that those craves come on like a SOB and are absolutely brutal the first few days/week or so. But I also know that even though it may feel like it at the time, nicotine withdrawal has never actually killed anyone (at least I can't find any evidence of it on the internet, and I have searched MANY hours to find some shred of evidence).
You see, during those XXXXX years you have been ingesting enough poison (nicotine) to kill a lab rat on a daily basis, your brain built up a serious network of dopamine receptors to take all that in. When you begin a quit, all a sudden you're no longer feeding those receptors. Think of them as crazed little beasty-bastards jumping up and down inside your brain housing group as they are slowly dying of starvation. They will do ANYTHING to get you to give them their 'fix'. That's what nicotine withdrawal is like (or at least it was for me). But they will eventually die off. Trust me.
If you have truly decided you're DONE, come on back, find the (Month) '17 HOF (hall of Fame) group, and post up your day's quit. I'll support you (along with many others on this site). I am not a psychologist, and have no clue why promising a bunch of strangers (at least initially they are strangers) on an internet forum that you won't use nicotine today works, but it does (assuming you're a man of integrity and you keep your promises). On the site, we do this daily, then keep that promise for 24 hours. Rinse. Repeat. We also trade phone numbers and build a web of accountability so that if you forget or need someone to talk you off the ledge, you have support. If you want to talk about it before you commit, my phone number's 123-456-7890.
I hope you don't find this email too strong. I promise I'm not an internet stalker. I live a good ways from (state), so you won't have to worry about me showing up unannounced!! If you want to quit, you can quit. KTC can help. I know, because today is three years I haven't had any nicotine, and it is wonderful. I only wish I had done it when I was your age. Ok....ball is now firmly in your court. If I don't hear back from you, I will only assume you have decided you don't really want to quit, and will leave you alone.
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Maybe there's a way to even automate this where active quitters can type in their name and hit "send" and the system will generate and email the "almost quitter"? Open to your thoughts and suggestions on this proposal.
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I like the format, and I like the last idea at the end about automating it. I can't say for sure that emails like this would have gotten me to make the decision to quit back in 2012, but they would definitely have made me rethink my choice to just post once and disappear. Just the thoughts of a former "almost quitter" who is now a quitter one day at a time and up to 13 days who also wishes it was 5.5 years plus 13 days...
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How long have you been quit?
5 Days Free
How much have you saved?
$32.65 Saved
just joined. i like my username.
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How long have you been quit?
5 Days Free
How much have you saved?
$32.65 Saved
just joined. i like my username.
Welcome Quit! Congrats on 5 days. Have you checked out the Quit Groups here? Head on over to November 2017 and start Posting Roll there. Everyone in that group will have quit within the same general time frame as you and will be able to commiserate and hold you accountable.
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How long have you been quit?
5 Days Free
How much have you saved?
$32.65 Saved
just joined. i like my username.
Quit, have not checked back into our roll group to see if you have posted yet, but I am currently quit 15 days. Get on and post roll, make your promise to not use nicotine today
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I have a quick site related question. I see different demarcations under people's avatars when posting. I understand there are different levels of participation and or time or achievements. Mine says "newbie" as that is where I am at in my quit. When reading some older threads, I sometimes see "banned" in that spot for some people. So the question is, are those posters actually banned from the site? Some of it seems to be in threads suggested as good reading material for us newbies. I know there are no stupid questions, only stupid people, so help this stupid person understand.
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I have a quick site related question. I see different demarcations under people's avatars when posting. I understand there are different levels of participation and or time or achievements. Mine says "newbie" as that is where I am at in my quit. When reading some older threads, I sometimes see "banned" in that spot for some people. So the question is, are those posters actually banned from the site? Some of it seems to be in threads suggested as good reading material for us newbies. I know there are no stupid questions, only stupid people, so help this stupid person understand.
"Newbie" relates to your post count. It will automatically change as your post count increases. You can also change that by going in to your profile and creating a custom title.
"Banned" does mean that a user has been permanently banned from the site. Their username, email address and IP address has been blocked and the Mod/ Admin team are on the lookout for these folks trying to sneak back in with new profiles.
There are very few rules at KTC, but the leadership team is 100% committed to protecting the integrity of this site. Bans are not taken lightly, but sometimes it is a necessary step to keep this site protected from those that would actively disrupt the process or degrade the foundation of trust. Individuals will be banned for things like Lying on Roll (Posting a day, while using nicotine), Harassment of other quitters, Persistent disruptive trolling, Threats and abuse.
It is very hard to get banned from this site. Leadership here provides a long rope because everyone should feel comfortable coming here to blow off steam and express themselves with 100% honesty. This is a site for adults who are quitting nicotine. That can be an ugly process and this is a place where you should feel free to get ugly sometimes. That's part of the healing process. People who get banned, do so because they were actively disrupting the quits of others or they have compromised the foundation of honesty that this site is built on. Don't do that, and you won't ever have to worry about it.
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Thanx pky1520, that's what I figured but without reading everything on the site it was surprising to find solid advice from people who are banned. I understand the newbie part from other forums, that was just a reference point for the banned title
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Thanx pky1520, that's what I figured but without reading everything on the site it was surprising to find solid advice from people who are banned. I understand the newbie part from other forums, that was just a reference point for the banned title
pky is 100% accurate in his assessment of what banned means, and how folks get there.
I'll simply add that solid advice can be solid advice, regardless of the source, which is why we choose to let it live on the site. Also oftentimes, the advice is given at a particular time in a person's quit before they decided to become a problem which would lead to their banning.
Welcome - and keep asking questions. As you said, there are no bad ones.
Chewie
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Are there quit groups for 2017 quitters? Today is day 1 for me and looking for a quit group but only see 2016 and prior? Thanks from a serious newbie..
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Are there quit groups for 2017 quitters? Today is day 1 for me and looking for a quit group but only see 2016 and prior? Thanks from a serious newbie..
topic/30296729/118/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30296729/118/)
^^ There's your group. Welcome sir
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Thank you sir!
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Thank you sir!
Atlanta, two years ago today I finally quit. All the other times before that were just 'stops'.
Buy into this place, drink the kool aid, get active, post roll, exchange numbers. This shit works baby!!
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Thank you sir!
Atlanta, two years ago today I finally quit. All the other times before that were just 'stops'.
Buy into this place, drink the kool aid, get active, post roll, exchange numbers. This shit works baby!!
Seconded ^^^
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Hey all, sorry if this is the wrong place, but I was wondering if living in a constant state of rage is actually normal. I quit 8 days ago, after chewing a tin per day, for over 25 years. I was the guy who always had a chew in, all day, all night. I went cold turkey without weaning down in advance, and I have used jakes mint chew(non tobacco) as a crutch.
I was a monster for three days, with a fog that could not be understood. My wife and kids gave me a lot of space as I was an absolute mess of a human being. Since the fog has lifted, I am fairly normal, except for two things. I cant sleep for more than an hour at a time, and when awake, i feel as though I am constantly on the verge of screaming and yelling. My wife is awesome and understands, but my 6 9 year old cant possibly understand whats going on.
I guess my question is how long until I can stop being a complete asshole to everyone I love? I dont want to yell at my kids or be cynical with my wife, but how I feel about it doesn't stop me from flying off the handle, and its day 8 for christs sake, i should be more balamced by now I would have thought.
Anyway, sorry to bitch, and no I dont want to do roll calls because I quit chew. Im not taking a break, its something that I simply will never do again. Also, thanks to all who make this site what it is.
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Hey all, sorry if this is the wrong place, but I was wondering if living in a constant state of rage is actually normal. I quit 8 days ago, after chewing a tin per day, for over 25 years. I was the guy who always had a chew in, all day, all night. I went cold turkey without weaning down in advance, and I have used jakes mint chew(non tobacco) as a crutch.
I was a monster for three days, with a fog that could not be understood. My wife and kids gave me a lot of space as I was an absolute mess of a human being. Since the fog has lifted, I am fairly normal, except for two things. I cant sleep for more than an hour at a time, and when awake, i feel as though I am constantly on the verge of screaming and yelling. My wife is awesome and understands, but my 6 9 year old cant possibly understand whats going on.
I guess my question is how long until I can stop being a complete asshole to everyone I love? I dont want to yell at my kids or be cynical with my wife, but how I feel about it doesn't stop me from flying off the handle, and its day 8 for christs sake, i should be more balamced by now I would have thought.
Anyway, sorry to bitch, and no I dont want to do roll calls because I quit chew. Im not taking a break, its something that I simply will never do again. Also, thanks to all who make this site what it is.
Coping - first off: eight days quit by yourself is badass. Believe it or not, you have already gotten through the absolute worst... look back, and remember it, and how much it just plain sucked, and know that so long as you never use nicotine, you will never ever have to go through that again.
Now, here's the harsh reality: you spent 25 years letting your brain stew in nicotine day in and day out. That stuff has screwed up your brain chemistry. It's going to take more than a week (or a couple of weeks) to get back to feeling "normal".
Here's the good news you need to hear, and take to heart: if you stay quit, your brain will learn to function normally again, and life WILL get better.
There are a couple of links on the main site that talk about what you will experience when you quit using nicotine:
What To Expect When You Quit Dipping (https://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/what-to-expect-when-you-quit-dipping/)
Symptoms of Quitting Dip and Chew (https://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/symptoms-of-quitting-dip-chew/)
Go give them a read; depending on a lot of factors, your quit may be a little different, but trust me - it will most likely sound a lot like what they describe.
After that, I really, really want to urge you to read one more page, about how KTC works...
Here's How You Quit... Ball Is In Your Court Now (https://www.killthecan.org/heres-how-you-quit-ball-is-in-your-court-now/)
... then go on over to the November 2017 (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30296729/) quit group and start posting roll. Then, next time you get angry, don't let yourself take it out on your wife or kids - come here, and scream at us. We'll understand; we've all been there. I pretty much lived on the site the first few months of my quit, keeping myself distracted so I wouldn't start screaming at everyone around me. That's what we're here for. Get on over, post roll, get involved, and we'll help you get past this and into better days before you know it.
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Hey all, sorry if this is the wrong place, but I was wondering if living in a constant state of rage is actually normal. I quit 8 days ago, after chewing a tin per day, for over 25 years. I was the guy who always had a chew in, all day, all night. I went cold turkey without weaning down in advance, and I have used jakes mint chew(non tobacco) as a crutch.
I was a monster for three days, with a fog that could not be understood. My wife and kids gave me a lot of space as I was an absolute mess of a human being. Since the fog has lifted, I am fairly normal, except for two things. I cant sleep for more than an hour at a time, and when awake, i feel as though I am constantly on the verge of screaming and yelling. My wife is awesome and understands, but my 6 9 year old cant possibly understand whats going on.
I guess my question is how long until I can stop being a complete asshole to everyone I love? I dont want to yell at my kids or be cynical with my wife, but how I feel about it doesn't stop me from flying off the handle, and its day 8 for christs sake, i should be more balamced by now I would have thought.
Anyway, sorry to bitch, and no I dont want to do roll calls because I quit chew. Im not taking a break, its something that I simply will never do again. Also, thanks to all who make this site what it is.
Coping - first off: eight days quit by yourself is badass. Believe it or not, you have already gotten through the absolute worst... look back, and remember it, and how much it just plain sucked, and know that so long as you never use nicotine, you will never ever have to go through that again.
Now, here's the harsh reality: you spent 25 years letting your brain stew in nicotine day in and day out. That stuff has screwed up your brain chemistry. It's going to take more than a week (or a couple of weeks) to get back to feeling "normal".
Here's the good news you need to hear, and take to heart: if you stay quit, your brain will learn to function normally again, and life WILL get better.
There are a couple of links on the main site that talk about what you will experience when you quit using nicotine:
What To Expect When You Quit Dipping (https://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/what-to-expect-when-you-quit-dipping/)
Symptoms of Quitting Dip and Chew (https://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/symptoms-of-quitting-dip-chew/)
Go give them a read; depending on a lot of factors, your quit may be a little different, but trust me - it will most likely sound a lot like what they describe.
After that, I really, really want to urge you to read one more page, about how KTC works...
Here's How You Quit... Ball Is In Your Court Now (https://www.killthecan.org/heres-how-you-quit-ball-is-in-your-court-now/)
... then go on over to the November 2017 (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30296729/) quit group and start posting roll. Then, next time you get angry, don't let yourself take it out on your wife or kids - come here, and scream at us. We'll understand; we've all been there. I pretty much lived on the site the first few months of my quit, keeping myself distracted so I wouldn't start screaming at everyone around me. That's what we're here for. Get on over, post roll, get involved, and we'll help you get past this and into better days before you know it.
In addition to Sam's articles you may want to give these a read:
Why Am I Being Such An Ass To Everyone?
https://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/as ... -everyone/ (https://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/ask-the-experts-faq/why-am-i-being-such-an-ass-to-everyone/)
Why Chewie Loves Dip Rage
https://www.killthecan.org/facts-figure ... -dip-rage/ (https://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/why-chewie-loves-dip-rage/)
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Thanks Samrs and Chewie. Those articles helped a lot.
I can handle the withdrawal, the pain, the sleeplessness. Its the emotional rollercoaster that is crushing me. Unfortunately I was already an outspoken asshole, so this magnifier is taking its toll on me.
I was serious about the quit, I will never go through days 1-3 again, but this board helps keep me grounded by knowing im not alone. Thanks again yall!
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hey guys,
i have question as far as getting strong urges in social situations. The toughest place for me to say no to tobacco is when I'm around my buddies. We meet once a week and we sit around the fire and have some beers. I'm 23 years old so this one night a week thing isn't something I want to give up quite yet, but I really get the strongest urges here. Does anyone have any advice from similar situations?
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hey guys,
i have question as far as getting strong urges in social situations. The toughest place for me to say no to tobacco is when I'm around my buddies. We meet once a week and we sit around the fire and have some beers. I'm 23 years old so this one night a week thing isn't something I want to give up quite yet, but I really get the strongest urges here. Does anyone have any advice from similar situations?
Couple of bits of advice... talk about your quit, lay off the beer for a while, find something to kill the craves, and have a lifeline.
If you're talking quit around your friends, you're letting them know that you're serious, reminding yourself that your quit, and generally making it harder for yourself to say "toss that can over here". You might even get some of them thinking about it.
Alcohol lowers inhibitions, which is one of the last things you need early on in your quit. You don't have to become a tea-totaler for life, but give some thought to avoiding it for a while. Heck, make everyone love you by volunteering to be the designated driver for a while. Plus, when they ask you why you're skipping the beer, you can... talk about your quit.
There's a bunch of smokeless alternatives out there - the main KTC site has a bunch of links at https://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/reviews/ (https://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/reviews/) You might want to take a look, and see if there's something there that appeals to you. Smokey Mountain is pretty readily available, and a lot of the other stuff can be ordered online (you can even get sampler packs with a bunch of different flavors, if you're in an experimental mood). If the thought of using fake feels too much like backsliding to you, then have your favorite crave killer - gum, mints, Werthers, sour Jolly Ranchers, Altoids, jerky, whatever - handy so when a crave hits, you can stuff something beside dried cancer turds in your mouth.
Finally - that lifeline. If you don't have numbers for some fellow quitters in your group already, find a few that seem like good guys and send them your number. If you already have a couple of numbers, make sure that they're active - shoot everyone a text, say hello, get to know them and get them in your messaging list so that reaching out to them when you need to won't feel awkward. If you really want a strong lifeline, give someone a call and talk to them - it's amazing how much that can strengthen your quit. Do all that, so if the time comes and you've had a beer, run out of fake, and a bad craving hits you, you can excuse yourself for a moment and text or call a buddy and have them text/talk you through the rough patch until the crave subsides.
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so I quit on July 5th and haven't had a dip since but I did recently smoke an e-cig for a little over a week and just came off a weekend of smoking cigars, fishing and drinking for my birthday weekend.
I started having some really bad anxiety like my chest was going to explode last week and I am feeling depressed today.
I don't know what to do. Very depressed and feeling uneasy for the past 6 days.
any talk would help :'(
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Hi guys, I'm about 10 days in and it has been rough. I get anxious or irritable a lot. But failure is not an option, I literally moved to another country where you can't even buy the stuff!
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so I quit on July 5th and haven't had a dip since but I did recently smoke an e-cig for a little over a week and just came off a weekend of smoking cigars, fishing and drinking for my birthday weekend.
I started having some really bad anxiety like my chest was going to explode last week and I am feeling depressed today.
I don't know what to do. Very depressed and feeling uneasy for the past 6 days.
any talk would help :'(
You are depressed and having really bad anxiety because you are going through withdrawals again. Sadly, your weekend of smoking cigars (as well as the e-cig) has reintroduced your body to the drug you have taken away since the 5th of July. Basically, you're on day 2 or 3 (depending on when you had your last nicotine) which is literally the worst day you could be on (from a withdrawal standpoint).
https://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/wh ... t-dipping/ (https://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/what-to-expect-when-you-quit-dipping/)
Your best path forward is to keep that shit out of your system completely. That means no e-cigs, no cigars, no dip, etc.
Find your group here on the forums (it would be November 2017 topic/30296729/) (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30296729/%29), head over there, introduce yourself and post roll...
One day at a time is how you're going to beat this. Sadly with the weekend you just had, you're back at at the beginning. That said, you're not alone and you're in the right place to get it done.
Chewie
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Hey guysÂ…new here and have a question. On day 2 and i had ordered some hooch and herd to help. I really liked the way herd packed better but that smell was awful. Ive seen a couple reviews saying it smelled good and one saying it smelled bad. Did I just get a bad few cans? Thanks for the help.
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Hey guysÂ…new here and have a question. On day 2 and i had ordered some hooch and herd to help. I really liked the way herd packed better but that smell was awful. Ive seen a couple reviews saying it smelled good and one saying it smelled bad. Did I just get a bad few cans? Thanks for the help.
Don't have an answer for you Dave. I have been using Smokey Mountain Snuff and can't really say it smells good either. SOmebody that has used the hooch will pop in with some feedback soon I would think
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Hi guys, I'm about 10 days in and it has been rough. I get anxious or irritable a lot. But failure is not an option, I literally moved to another country where you can't even buy the stuff!
10 days in? You are doing fantastic! Find your quit group and post with them. You are well on your way my friend. Message me if you need help.
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So today I'm a general mess from wanting to tell some of the people I work with where to go to flat out crying on the phone with my future wife asking for her to help me out. Read a lot of your stories and instead of swinging by the gas station on my way home like I normally would on a day like this called the dentist to have my teeth cleaned tomorrow instead of work. I've head you all with the after three days it gets easier, but starting to question when I start to feel like myself again. Can't do another day of crying like a child and yelling at coworkers for stupid stuff that actually isn't stupid.
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So today I'm a general mess from wanting to tell some of the people I work with where to go to flat out crying on the phone with my future wife asking for her to help me out. Read a lot of your stories and instead of swinging by the gas station on my way home like I normally would on a day like this called the dentist to have my teeth cleaned tomorrow instead of work. I've head you all with the after three days it gets easier, but starting to question when I start to feel like myself again. Can't do another day of crying like a child and yelling at coworkers for stupid stuff that actually isn't stupid.
Wyles, the nicotine will be gone from your body after 3 days without use, but the mental and psychological dependency is tough to get through. It takes a different amount of time for different people just depending on your situation. If you want to quit, and it sounds like you do, get in here daily and join the December 2017 Pre-HOF group. That will be your home group to post your promise not to use daily in. The process for quitting sounds simple: POst your promise not to use nicotine every day, and then simply keep your promise. Its only as hard as you make it. A good habit to follow is WUPP: Wake Up Piss Post. If you are used to grabbing a dip as soon as you wake up , replace that with making your promise. PM me if you need a hand or someone to have your back during a crave. You have made the right choice to come here if you want to quit
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Wyles, thats what WE are here for. Come here, get in your quit group and unload.... RAGE is GOOD for you at this point in your quit!!!!!!!!!!!!! You will see, it gets better quick. Dont give up now! This is a critical time.
This is the Nicotine trying to trick you into going back to your slave ways. DONT DO IT
You can do this man!!! PM me if you need anything.
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Wyles, thats what WE are here for. Come here, get in your quit group and unload.... RAGE is GOOD for you at this point in your quit!!!!!!!!!!!!! You will see, it gets better quick. Dont give up now! This is a critical time.
This is the Nicotine trying to trick you into going back to your slave ways. DONT DO IT
You can do this man!!! PM me if you need anything.
No one ever regrets quitting nicotine - no one.
You will never hear someone say that they miss dipping or smoking. Use the tools here and you can succeed, one day at a time. It takes time but life gets better after we cut the chains.
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Alright here's a question for anybody that's listening. I'm 111 days into my quit and this is the first time I'm posting. Been ghosting this site pretty much since the beginning, reading stories, trying to gain some encouragement where I can. Haven't wanted to start again ever since I stopped. Not a damn chance. The side affects however have been putting me through the ringer. I haven't felt like myself in 111 days and I mean every bit of that. Severe depression, severe anxiety, light sensitivity, eye twitch, depersonalization, headaches, trouble completing thoughts, trouble remembering things, sleep disturbances, mood swings, the list goes on and on and on and on. I guess what I'm wondering here is, has anybody else felt this severity of symptoms with no relenting after such a long period of time? I almost can't remember what it feels like to feel normal, I just know that I don't. I'm working with a doctor and a psychiatrist and all that bullshit, so I've got all the professional opinions, but what I want to hear is the opinions of real motherfuckers who know what quitting is like. Part of me suspects maybe there is something more sinister at work and part of me thinks I'm just being a bitch and I need to own up to the shit I put my body through for so long. Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks,
JB2
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So today I'm a general mess from wanting to tell some of the people I work with where to go to flat out crying on the phone with my future wife asking for her to help me out. Read a lot of your stories and instead of swinging by the gas station on my way home like I normally would on a day like this called the dentist to have my teeth cleaned tomorrow instead of work. I've head you all with the after three days it gets easier, but starting to question when I start to feel like myself again. Can't do another day of crying like a child and yelling at coworkers for stupid stuff that actually isn't stupid.
Hey Wyles,
I feel for you buddy. I am currently on Day 6 of my quit. I was a fairly heavy Kodiak Wintergreen user for about 17 years after a neck injury. I wanted to get off the narcotic painkillers, worried about addiction. Go figure..
Anyway, Day 3-4 have been the roughest for me so far from the psychological side. I was really short with both my wife and kids, and ready to snap at an instant. I did read that the reason for it is that Nicotine used to essentially emulate an adrenaline/dopamine rush to the brain. With the nicotine now absent, our brain tries to start fights to give us that same fight or flight rush as it figures out what to do in the absence of nicotine.
Anyway, just keep telling yourself that it is a symptom, it will pass. The last two days (Days 5-6), I have definitely noticed the mood swings starting to wean a little, and even my resting heart rate is decreasing. We can do this together buddy.
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Alright here's a question for anybody that's listening. I'm 111 days into my quit and this is the first time I'm posting. Been ghosting this site pretty much since the beginning, reading stories, trying to gain some encouragement where I can. Haven't wanted to start again ever since I stopped. Not a damn chance. The side affects however have been putting me through the ringer. I haven't felt like myself in 111 days and I mean every bit of that. Severe depression, severe anxiety, light sensitivity, eye twitch, depersonalization, headaches, trouble completing thoughts, trouble remembering things, sleep disturbances, mood swings, the list goes on and on and on and on. I guess what I'm wondering here is, has anybody else felt this severity of symptoms with no relenting after such a long period of time? I almost can't remember what it feels like to feel normal, I just know that I don't. I'm working with a doctor and a psychiatrist and all that bullshit, so I've got all the professional opinions, but what I want to hear is the opinions of real motherfuckers who know what quitting is like. Part of me suspects maybe there is something more sinister at work and part of me thinks I'm just being a bitch and I need to own up to the shit I put my body through for so long. Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks,
JB2
Hard to say without really knowing your situation, but it is extremely common to have strong symptoms well after 100. Many folks find that they really struggle in the 150 range. But it's generally cyclic - lots of ups and downs, generally trending towards better. I started finding a new normal shortly after 100, but it hasn't been till after about a year that the nicotine cravings seemed to disappear altogether.
My guess is that you've actually had some cyclic symptoms as well, but are currently in a down cycle. Maybe you just don't notice it when things are actually going ok, but now that you're struggling again, it seems like it never stopped. One of the side benefits of the way we track our Quit daily here, is having a record of things we struggle with at different times.
It's never to late to join a group here - you'd be August 2017 - those guys would be happy to have you post with them and they'll have some insight into what you're struggling with. Just make sure you're willing to commit to them every day.
One aside is that if you really are experiencing non-stop acute symptoms like you mentioned, it could be something more serious. If you have constant headaches, depression, light sensitivity and cognitive abnormalities, you want to consider a medical opinion. It might be psychosomatic, it might be brain related. I'd encourage you to get a real medical opinion.
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Alright here's a question for anybody that's listening. I'm 111 days into my quit and this is the first time I'm posting. Been ghosting this site pretty much since the beginning, reading stories, trying to gain some encouragement where I can. Haven't wanted to start again ever since I stopped. Not a damn chance. The side affects however have been putting me through the ringer. I haven't felt like myself in 111 days and I mean every bit of that. Severe depression, severe anxiety, light sensitivity, eye twitch, depersonalization, headaches, trouble completing thoughts, trouble remembering things, sleep disturbances, mood swings, the list goes on and on and on and on. I guess what I'm wondering here is, has anybody else felt this severity of symptoms with no relenting after such a long period of time? I almost can't remember what it feels like to feel normal, I just know that I don't. I'm working with a doctor and a psychiatrist and all that bullshit, so I've got all the professional opinions, but what I want to hear is the opinions of real motherfuckers who know what quitting is like. Part of me suspects maybe there is something more sinister at work and part of me thinks I'm just being a bitch and I need to own up to the shit I put my body through for so long. Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks,
JB2
Hard to say without really knowing your situation, but it is extremely common to have strong symptoms well after 100. Many folks find that they really struggle in the 150 range. But it's generally cyclic - lots of ups and downs, generally trending towards better. I started finding a new normal shortly after 100, but it hasn't been till after about a year that the nicotine cravings seemed to disappear altogether.
My guess is that you've actually had some cyclic symptoms as well, but are currently in a down cycle. Maybe you just don't notice it when things are actually going ok, but now that you're struggling again, it seems like it never stopped. One of the side benefits of the way we track our Quit daily here, is having a record of things we struggle with at different times.
It's never to late to join a group here - you'd be August 2017 - those guys would be happy to have you post with them and they'll have some insight into what you're struggling with. Just make sure you're willing to commit to them every day.
One aside is that if you really are experiencing non-stop acute symptoms like you mentioned, it could be something more serious. If you have constant headaches, depression, light sensitivity and cognitive abnormalities, you want to consider a medical opinion. It might be psychosomatic, it might be brain related. I'd encourage you to get a real medical opinion.
Not much to add to what JB2 offered. Some of my worst times (aside from those first few nail biters) were just AFTER I hit the 100 day mark. Brutal... just brutal.
Check out these two pages, and especially the comments on both. You'll see that A) you're definitely not alone and B) it's actually pretty normal to feel shitty even past 100.
What To Expect When You Quit Dipping - https://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/wh ... t-dipping/ (https://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/what-to-expect-when-you-quit-dipping/)
What To Expect – 100 Days and Beyond - https://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/wh ... nd-beyond/ (https://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/what-to-expect-100-days-and-beyond/)
Hang in there man - there's nothing in your past as a dipper that has anything to offer you.
Chewie
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How does HOF work? Where does the train conductor come from?
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My brain must be really slow this morning because I can't figure out how to reply to a specific post lol but thanks Chewie and pky1520 for the response. Any insight is helpful at this point, here's to things looking up, cheers
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My brain must be really slow this morning because I can't figure out how to reply to a specific post lol but thanks Chewie and pky1520 for the response. Any insight is helpful at this point, here's to things looking up, cheers
Bottom right of the post is a "quote" button, hit that.
I am not sure if it was quit related, but I've gotten ahold of a moderate (so far) case of social anxiety. I have spent most of my life being quiet and listening, now if I'm trapped with other people in social settings I become basically sick. I hear your struggles with that. Where you live is it legal to choke a fool?
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How does HOF work? Where does the train conductor come from?
Hall of Fame is when someone has reached 100 days quit. It's a significant milestone and considered the "End of the Beginning." It's really just another day, but we recognize it at KTC because it's a goal that new quitters can wrap their minds around.
Conductors come about when two people love each other very much, decide that they'd like to bring a baby into the world and make passionate, unprotected love. About 9 months later, a baby Conductor pops out and begins life. At some point that baby becomes and adolescent/ young adult/ adult and decides to start dipping. It's a stupid fucking decision, but you don't get to be Conductor without making a series of stupid life decisions. At some other point, our Conductor to be, actually makes a good decision and Quits. He or she kicks ass and stays quit, while also being active and giving back to other quitters in the KTC community. After our predestined Conductor reaches HOF, his/ her own Conductors will select him/ her, and one other from that HOF month, to drive the HOF train for the next group (one month removed). So August Conductors will lead in October and then select two Quitters from October to lead December.
It's one of nature's beautiful, unbroken cycles of life.
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How does HOF work? Where does the train conductor come from?
Hall of Fame is when someone has reached 100 days quit. It's a significant milestone and considered the "End of the Beginning." It's really just another day, but we recognize it at KTC because it's a goal that new quitters can wrap their minds around.
Conductors come about when two people love each other very much, decide that they'd like to bring a baby into the world and make passionate, unprotected love. About 9 months later, a baby Conductor pops out and begins life. At some point that baby becomes and adolescent/ young adult/ adult and decides to start dipping. It's a stupid fucking decision, but you don't get to be Conductor without making a series of stupid life decisions. At some other point, our Conductor to be, actually makes a good decision and Quits. He or she kicks ass and stays quit, while also being active and giving back to other quitters in the KTC community. After our predestined Conductor reaches HOF, his/ her own Conductors will select him/ her, and one other from that HOF month, to drive the HOF train for the next group (one month removed). So August Conductors will lead in October and then select two Quitters from October to lead December.
It's one of nature's beautiful, unbroken cycles of life.
So 2 of us from sept will be conductors for nov and we as a group decide which 2 or can we have more than 2 conductors in sept
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How does HOF work? Where does the train conductor come from?
Hall of Fame is when someone has reached 100 days quit. It's a significant milestone and considered the "End of the Beginning." It's really just another day, but we recognize it at KTC because it's a goal that new quitters can wrap their minds around.
Conductors come about when two people love each other very much, decide that they'd like to bring a baby into the world and make passionate, unprotected love. About 9 months later, a baby Conductor pops out and begins life. At some point that baby becomes and adolescent/ young adult/ adult and decides to start dipping. It's a stupid fucking decision, but you don't get to be Conductor without making a series of stupid life decisions. At some other point, our Conductor to be, actually makes a good decision and Quits. He or she kicks ass and stays quit, while also being active and giving back to other quitters in the KTC community. After our predestined Conductor reaches HOF, his/ her own Conductors will select him/ her, and one other from that HOF month, to drive the HOF train for the next group (one month removed). So August Conductors will lead in October and then select two Quitters from October to lead December.
It's one of nature's beautiful, unbroken cycles of life.
So 2 of us from sept will be conductors for nov and we as a group decide which 2 or can we have more than 2 conductors in sept
The Conductors from your group will be selected by the Conductors for your group. They'll be from July and should be announced sometime tomorrow.
Don't worry about it, just enjoy the HOF month and keep on quitting today. The rest is just gravy.
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Hello. 7 days in. 25 years of chewing. Has a white sore show up a week ago upper gum cheek area..white film scrapes off and bleeds a little. White film returns .Hurts a little .Scared to death..quit many times but I feel like this one is going to stick .Never been this afraid before..looking for some advice.
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First post, first day registered on the site even though I have viewed the site, plenty of threads, motivation, etc for probably the last 4-5 years here and there when I was thinking of quitting. Today at 5am finished a can off and it hit again that I just spent another $7 on this terrible habit, I didn't enjoy a single dip, but I've been a slave to it.....So I decided I wasn't going to stop at the gas station and pick one up, maybe today would be the day. This is the first day I have driven to work, dropped my kids off at daycare, and sat at my desk for an hour without a dip in for well over a year....I'm not even 3 hours in and I feel like I need to speak up and let someone know I am quitting to drive home some accountability.
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First post, first day registered on the site even though I have viewed the site, plenty of threads, motivation, etc for probably the last 4-5 years here and there when I was thinking of quitting. Today at 5am finished a can off and it hit again that I just spent another $7 on this terrible habit, I didn't enjoy a single dip, but I've been a slave to it.....So I decided I wasn't going to stop at the gas station and pick one up, maybe today would be the day. This is the first day I have driven to work, dropped my kids off at daycare, and sat at my desk for an hour without a dip in for well over a year....I'm not even 3 hours in and I feel like I need to speak up and let someone know I am quitting to drive home some accountability.
Jesse, if you're really looking for accountability, get on over to the December quit group (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30321153/) and post roll.
Roll is our way of promising each other that we will not have nicotine for the day. We post roll every day here. Our system is pretty simple. Wake up, post roll, and keep your word for the day. Then, the next day, do it all over again. If you make that promise early - first thing every morning - and commit to making it every day, no matter what, then your chances of staying quit will go up exponentially.
Here's some links on the main site that will help you understand what you're going to be going through:
Here's How You Quit... Ball Is In Your Court Now (https://www.killthecan.org/heres-how-you-quit-ball-is-in-your-court-now/)
What To Expect When You Quit Dipping (https://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/what-to-expect-when-you-quit-dipping/)
Symptoms of Quitting Dip and Chew (https://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/symptoms-of-quitting-dip-chew/)
Hang in there. The first few days can be brutal. Post roll, make connections, and lean on us to help you get through it.
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Sounds like I will need to wait on roll call, No Cope in my mouth, but I'm chewing on nicotine gum. When I phase the gum out, I guess then I can start.
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Sounds like I will need to wait on roll call, No Cope in my mouth, but I'm chewing on nicotine gum. When I phase the gum out, I guess then I can start.
Jesse - all that chewing nicotine gum will do is extend your withdrawal symptoms. Believe me, I tried to quit many times using nicotine gum. Never worked for me - once I "quit" the gum, the dependency on nicotine was still there, and I was right back to chewing. When I found KTC, I was finally able to quit for good because the people here helped me understand that the only way to quit was to quit nicotine entirely.
You need to recognize that you don't have a chewing problem, or a smoking problem, or... whatever; you are dealing with a nicotine addiction. Changing the delivery method isn't going to help; it's just feeding the addiction in a different way.
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Sounds like I will need to wait on roll call, No Cope in my mouth, but I'm chewing on nicotine gum. When I phase the gum out, I guess then I can start.
Jesse - all that chewing nicotine gum will do is extend your withdrawal symptoms. Believe me, I tried to quit many times using nicotine gum. Never worked for me - once I "quit" the gum, the dependency on nicotine was still there, and I was right back to chewing. When I found KTC, I was finally able to quit for good because the people here helped me understand that the only way to quit was to quit nicotine entirely.
You need to recognize that you don't have a chewing problem, or a smoking problem, or... whatever; you are dealing with a nicotine addiction. Changing the delivery method isn't going to help; it's just feeding the addiction in a different way.
Jesse, phase it out now! If you're going to quit, then at some point you're going to have to dig up some courage and actually toss it out. You say you've been thinking about this for several years - it's gone on long enough. Use the drive that led you to finally post here and make today the day.
All you have to do it worry about one day. Just go the rest of today without any nicotine, surely you can handle that. Worry about tomorrow when it gets here, but if you can make it today, you can be quit. I posted 492 today and I did that by doing it one single day at a time.
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Sounds like I will need to wait on roll call, No Cope in my mouth, but I'm chewing on nicotine gum. When I phase the gum out, I guess then I can start.
Jesse - all that chewing nicotine gum will do is extend your withdrawal symptoms. Believe me, I tried to quit many times using nicotine gum. Never worked for me - once I "quit" the gum, the dependency on nicotine was still there, and I was right back to chewing. When I found KTC, I was finally able to quit for good because the people here helped me understand that the only way to quit was to quit nicotine entirely.
You need to recognize that you don't have a chewing problem, or a smoking problem, or... whatever; you are dealing with a nicotine addiction. Changing the delivery method isn't going to help; it's just feeding the addiction in a different way.
Jesse, phase it out now! If you're going to quit, then at some point you're going to have to dig up some courage and actually toss it out. You say you've been thinking about this for several years - it's gone on long enough. Use the drive that led you to finally post here and make today the day.
All you have to do it worry about one day. Just go the rest of today without any nicotine, surely you can handle that. Worry about tomorrow when it gets here, but if you can make it today, you can be quit. I posted 492 today and I did that by doing it one single day at a time.
I'll echo what these guys have said.
Here's an article you may find interesting. A few years back I took an objective look at NRT.
https://www.killthecan.org/whats-really-in-nrt/ (https://www.killthecan.org/whats-really-in-nrt/)
Chewie
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Sounds like I will need to wait on roll call, No Cope in my mouth, but I'm chewing on nicotine gum. When I phase the gum out, I guess then I can start.
Jesse - all that chewing nicotine gum will do is extend your withdrawal symptoms. Believe me, I tried to quit many times using nicotine gum. Never worked for me - once I "quit" the gum, the dependency on nicotine was still there, and I was right back to chewing. When I found KTC, I was finally able to quit for good because the people here helped me understand that the only way to quit was to quit nicotine entirely.
You need to recognize that you don't have a chewing problem, or a smoking problem, or... whatever; you are dealing with a nicotine addiction. Changing the delivery method isn't going to help; it's just feeding the addiction in a different way.
Jesse, phase it out now! If you're going to quit, then at some point you're going to have to dig up some courage and actually toss it out. You say you've been thinking about this for several years - it's gone on long enough. Use the drive that led you to finally post here and make today the day.
All you have to do it worry about one day. Just go the rest of today without any nicotine, surely you can handle that. Worry about tomorrow when it gets here, but if you can make it today, you can be quit. I posted 492 today and I did that by doing it one single day at a time.
I'll echo what these guys have said.
Here's an article you may find interesting. A few years back I took an objective look at NRT.
https://www.killthecan.org/whats-really-in-nrt/ (https://www.killthecan.org/whats-really-in-nrt/)
Chewie
Great information and just coming back to this thread and seeing multiple responses is helpful and encouraging. My school of thought was that at least a 4MG piece of gum that I know contains Nicotine is a step down. I may ride that out today/tomorrow, but I'm committed to address the root issue of nicotine addiction, rather than just a chewing habit/addiction. I plan to post roll once I've made that transition.
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Sounds like I will need to wait on roll call, No Cope in my mouth, but I'm chewing on nicotine gum. When I phase the gum out, I guess then I can start.
Jesse - all that chewing nicotine gum will do is extend your withdrawal symptoms. Believe me, I tried to quit many times using nicotine gum. Never worked for me - once I "quit" the gum, the dependency on nicotine was still there, and I was right back to chewing. When I found KTC, I was finally able to quit for good because the people here helped me understand that the only way to quit was to quit nicotine entirely.
You need to recognize that you don't have a chewing problem, or a smoking problem, or... whatever; you are dealing with a nicotine addiction. Changing the delivery method isn't going to help; it's just feeding the addiction in a different way.
Jesse, phase it out now! If you're going to quit, then at some point you're going to have to dig up some courage and actually toss it out. You say you've been thinking about this for several years - it's gone on long enough. Use the drive that led you to finally post here and make today the day.
All you have to do it worry about one day. Just go the rest of today without any nicotine, surely you can handle that. Worry about tomorrow when it gets here, but if you can make it today, you can be quit. I posted 492 today and I did that by doing it one single day at a time.
I'll echo what these guys have said.
Here's an article you may find interesting. A few years back I took an objective look at NRT.
https://www.killthecan.org/whats-really-in-nrt/ (https://www.killthecan.org/whats-really-in-nrt/)
Chewie
Great information and just coming back to this thread and seeing multiple responses is helpful and encouraging. My school of thought was that at least a 4MG piece of gum that I know contains Nicotine is a step down. I may ride that out today/tomorrow, but I'm committed to address the root issue of nicotine addiction, rather than just a chewing habit/addiction. I plan to post roll once I've made that transition.
I hope that transition happens for you. Frankly, most people who post here with a future "plan to quit" in mind, never follow through. You're going to better off using the momentum you have now.
If you think continuing to use and tapering down will make the eventual quit any easier, you're mistaken. That isn't how chemical addiction works. Using less nicotine is only going to tease your system and make the cravings that much worse. It will prolong the withdrawal and probably make you feel like you'll never be able to handle actual cessation. "If this is how shitty cutting back feels, I'll never be able to actually quit, so I might as well keep using."
The way I see it, you've got an opportunity right now to make this happen. If you only knew how achievable this actually is and how good freedom actually feels, you'd jump on this opportunity like Oprah on a box of doughnuts. You can do this, you have what it takes, and Cold turkey is the best way to do it.
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Just wanted to tell all my brothers and sisters affected by the hurricanes that you all are in my thoughts and prayers. Stay safe and stay strong all.
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Just wanted to tell all my brothers and sisters affected by the hurricanes that you all are in my thoughts and prayers. Stay safe and stay strong all.
No joke. And if your town is filling a truck, put shit in there. Put something. We bought a few sleeves of diapers and tampons. Laugh if you want...
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Sounds like I will need to wait on roll call, No Cope in my mouth, but I'm chewing on nicotine gum. When I phase the gum out, I guess then I can start.
Jesse - all that chewing nicotine gum will do is extend your withdrawal symptoms. Believe me, I tried to quit many times using nicotine gum. Never worked for me - once I "quit" the gum, the dependency on nicotine was still there, and I was right back to chewing. When I found KTC, I was finally able to quit for good because the people here helped me understand that the only way to quit was to quit nicotine entirely.
You need to recognize that you don't have a chewing problem, or a smoking problem, or... whatever; you are dealing with a nicotine addiction. Changing the delivery method isn't going to help; it's just feeding the addiction in a different way.
Jesse, phase it out now! If you're going to quit, then at some point you're going to have to dig up some courage and actually toss it out. You say you've been thinking about this for several years - it's gone on long enough. Use the drive that led you to finally post here and make today the day.
All you have to do it worry about one day. Just go the rest of today without any nicotine, surely you can handle that. Worry about tomorrow when it gets here, but if you can make it today, you can be quit. I posted 492 today and I did that by doing it one single day at a time.
I'll echo what these guys have said.
Here's an article you may find interesting. A few years back I took an objective look at NRT.
https://www.killthecan.org/whats-really-in-nrt/ (https://www.killthecan.org/whats-really-in-nrt/)
Chewie
Great information and just coming back to this thread and seeing multiple responses is helpful and encouraging. My school of thought was that at least a 4MG piece of gum that I know contains Nicotine is a step down. I may ride that out today/tomorrow, but I'm committed to address the root issue of nicotine addiction, rather than just a chewing habit/addiction. I plan to post roll once I've made that transition.
I hope that transition happens for you. Frankly, most people who post here with a future "plan to quit" in mind, never follow through. You're going to better off using the momentum you have now.
If you think continuing to use and tapering down will make the eventual quit any easier, you're mistaken. That isn't how chemical addiction works. Using less nicotine is only going to tease your system and make the cravings that much worse. It will prolong the withdrawal and probably make you feel like you'll never be able to handle actual cessation. "If this is how shitty cutting back feels, I'll never be able to actually quit, so I might as well keep using."
The way I see it, you've got an opportunity right now to make this happen. If you only knew how achievable this actually is and how good freedom actually feels, you'd jump on this opportunity like Oprah on a box of doughnuts. You can do this, you have what it takes, and Cold turkey is the best way to do it.
C-O-L-D T-U-R-K-E-Y baby. Get off all NIC. You CAN do this. We all are doing it every day, are you ready to commit, join us and take back your life???
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Sounds like I will need to wait on roll call, No Cope in my mouth, but I'm chewing on nicotine gum. When I phase the gum out, I guess then I can start.
Jesse - all that chewing nicotine gum will do is extend your withdrawal symptoms. Believe me, I tried to quit many times using nicotine gum. Never worked for me - once I "quit" the gum, the dependency on nicotine was still there, and I was right back to chewing. When I found KTC, I was finally able to quit for good because the people here helped me understand that the only way to quit was to quit nicotine entirely.
You need to recognize that you don't have a chewing problem, or a smoking problem, or... whatever; you are dealing with a nicotine addiction. Changing the delivery method isn't going to help; it's just feeding the addiction in a different way.
Jesse, phase it out now! If you're going to quit, then at some point you're going to have to dig up some courage and actually toss it out. You say you've been thinking about this for several years - it's gone on long enough. Use the drive that led you to finally post here and make today the day.
All you have to do it worry about one day. Just go the rest of today without any nicotine, surely you can handle that. Worry about tomorrow when it gets here, but if you can make it today, you can be quit. I posted 492 today and I did that by doing it one single day at a time.
I'll echo what these guys have said.
Here's an article you may find interesting. A few years back I took an objective look at NRT.
https://www.killthecan.org/whats-really-in-nrt/ (https://www.killthecan.org/whats-really-in-nrt/)
Chewie
Great information and just coming back to this thread and seeing multiple responses is helpful and encouraging. My school of thought was that at least a 4MG piece of gum that I know contains Nicotine is a step down. I may ride that out today/tomorrow, but I'm committed to address the root issue of nicotine addiction, rather than just a chewing habit/addiction. I plan to post roll once I've made that transition.
I hope that transition happens for you. Frankly, most people who post here with a future "plan to quit" in mind, never follow through. You're going to better off using the momentum you have now.
If you think continuing to use and tapering down will make the eventual quit any easier, you're mistaken. That isn't how chemical addiction works. Using less nicotine is only going to tease your system and make the cravings that much worse. It will prolong the withdrawal and probably make you feel like you'll never be able to handle actual cessation. "If this is how shitty cutting back feels, I'll never be able to actually quit, so I might as well keep using."
The way I see it, you've got an opportunity right now to make this happen. If you only knew how achievable this actually is and how good freedom actually feels, you'd jump on this opportunity like Oprah on a box of doughnuts. You can do this, you have what it takes, and Cold turkey is the best way to do it.
C-O-L-D T-U-R-K-E-Y baby. Get off all NIC. You CAN do this. We all are doing it every day, are you ready to commit, join us and take back your life???
I know that I am still a Newbie at Day 16, but you have to do it Cold Turkey. The NRT method is a way to keep you hooked on gum instead of chew. Your body still has the need and gets what it wants. There really is no ween off nicotine. You are either getting it, or not getting it. It takes about 3 days for the nicotine to leave your system. That first week sucked. I still have symptoms of withdrawal, but they are easing up every day. Imagine what the symptoms of Chemo, Radiation, etc. will feel like. This will be a cakewalk.
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Hope all is well... I'm going to give all my willpower and try to quit this stuff. Today, of all days, should be a good day to quit. I have no idea how busy these forums are but I felt the need to put my hopes down somewhere... I thought it might give me that little extra bit of motivation to get me over the hump and really quit. I threw away any cans I had laying around, and I made a little calendar going though the end of the month so I can look forward to crossing out each day Im clear of this disgusting stuff. If any of you have tips I would love to hear them. Thanks for this resource!
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Hope all is well... I'm going to give all my willpower and try to quit this stuff. Today, of all days, should be a good day to quit. I have no idea how busy these forums are but I felt the need to put my hopes down somewhere... I thought it might give me that little extra bit of motivation to get me over the hump and really quit. I threw away any cans I had laying around, and I made a little calendar going though the end of the month so I can look forward to crossing out each day Im clear of this disgusting stuff. If any of you have tips I would love to hear them. Thanks for this resource!
Quit - I recommend you read Here's How You Quit... Ball Is In Your Court Now (https://www.killthecan.org/heres-how-you-quit-ball-is-in-your-court-now/). That gives you a rundown of what's up here at KTC. There is so, so much more here than just a couple of message boards.
Once you've got that, head on over to the [December]topic/30321153/]December (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30321153/) quit group[/url] and post roll. Roll is our way of promising each other that we will not have nicotine for the day. We post roll every day here. Our system is pretty simple. Wake up, post roll, and keep your word for the day. Then, the next day, do it all over again. If you make that promise early - first thing every morning - and commit to making it every day, no matter what, then your chances of staying quit will go up exponentially.
I really, really recommend getting plugged in over in December. These first few days are rough, and getting involved in your quit group will help immensely.
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Hope all is well... I'm going to give all my willpower and try to quit this stuff. Today, of all days, should be a good day to quit. I have no idea how busy these forums are but I felt the need to put my hopes down somewhere... I thought it might give me that little extra bit of motivation to get me over the hump and really quit. I threw away any cans I had laying around, and I made a little calendar going though the end of the month so I can look forward to crossing out each day Im clear of this disgusting stuff. If any of you have tips I would love to hear them. Thanks for this resource!
Quit - I recommend you read Here's How You Quit... Ball Is In Your Court Now (https://www.killthecan.org/heres-how-you-quit-ball-is-in-your-court-now/). That gives you a rundown of what's up here at KTC. There is so, so much more here than just a couple of message boards.
Once you've got that, head on over to the [December]topic/30321153/]December (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30321153/) quit group[/url] and post roll. Roll is our way of promising each other that we will not have nicotine for the day. We post roll every day here. Our system is pretty simple. Wake up, post roll, and keep your word for the day. Then, the next day, do it all over again. If you make that promise early - first thing every morning - and commit to making it every day, no matter what, then your chances of staying quit will go up exponentially.
I really, really recommend getting plugged in over in December. These first few days are rough, and getting involved in your quit group will help immensely.
Samrs laid it out really well, but I'll reiterate that making the promise is much more impactful than simply crossing off days. Being accountable to others is more impactful than simply trying to use your own willpower. Beating this addiction will require everything you've got, but the tools here will make it more manageable.
It can be done though. I posted Day 499 today. You can get there too.
Hope to see you post up in December.
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Hope all is well... I'm going to give all my willpower and try to quit this stuff. Today, of all days, should be a good day to quit. I have no idea how busy these forums are but I felt the need to put my hopes down somewhere... I thought it might give me that little extra bit of motivation to get me over the hump and really quit. I threw away any cans I had laying around, and I made a little calendar going though the end of the month so I can look forward to crossing out each day Im clear of this disgusting stuff. If any of you have tips I would love to hear them. Thanks for this resource!
Quit - I recommend you read Here's How You Quit... Ball Is In Your Court Now (https://www.killthecan.org/heres-how-you-quit-ball-is-in-your-court-now/). That gives you a rundown of what's up here at KTC. There is so, so much more here than just a couple of message boards.
Once you've got that, head on over to the [December]topic/30321153/]December (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30321153/) quit group[/url] and post roll. Roll is our way of promising each other that we will not have nicotine for the day. We post roll every day here. Our system is pretty simple. Wake up, post roll, and keep your word for the day. Then, the next day, do it all over again. If you make that promise early - first thing every morning - and commit to making it every day, no matter what, then your chances of staying quit will go up exponentially.
I really, really recommend getting plugged in over in December. These first few days are rough, and getting involved in your quit group will help immensely.
Samrs laid it out really well, but I'll reiterate that making the promise is much more impactful than simply crossing off days. Being accountable to others is more impactful than simply trying to use your own willpower. Beating this addiction will require everything you've got, but the tools here will make it more manageable.
It can be done though. I posted Day 499 today. You can get there too.
Hope to see you post up in December.
Hope you come back to read this today. Go and post your promise in the December group to the people that are quitting today with you. Post it to them, post it to me, to Samrs, to Pky and to YOURSELF.
You quit for yourself, and have some pride in it, you will have success. Every Damn Day
I quit with you today, DonkeyMN-225
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Hope all is well... I'm going to give all my willpower and try to quit this stuff. Today, of all days, should be a good day to quit. I have no idea how busy these forums are but I felt the need to put my hopes down somewhere... I thought it might give me that little extra bit of motivation to get me over the hump and really quit. I threw away any cans I had laying around, and I made a little calendar going though the end of the month so I can look forward to crossing out each day Im clear of this disgusting stuff. If any of you have tips I would love to hear them. Thanks for this resource!
Quit - I recommend you read Here's How You Quit... Ball Is In Your Court Now (https://www.killthecan.org/heres-how-you-quit-ball-is-in-your-court-now/). That gives you a rundown of what's up here at KTC. There is so, so much more here than just a couple of message boards.
Once you've got that, head on over to the [December]topic/30321153/]December (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30321153/) quit group[/url] and post roll. Roll is our way of promising each other that we will not have nicotine for the day. We post roll every day here. Our system is pretty simple. Wake up, post roll, and keep your word for the day. Then, the next day, do it all over again. If you make that promise early - first thing every morning - and commit to making it every day, no matter what, then your chances of staying quit will go up exponentially.
I really, really recommend getting plugged in over in December. These first few days are rough, and getting involved in your quit group will help immensely.
Samrs laid it out really well, but I'll reiterate that making the promise is much more impactful than simply crossing off days. Being accountable to others is more impactful than simply trying to use your own willpower. Beating this addiction will require everything you've got, but the tools here will make it more manageable.
It can be done though. I posted Day 499 today. You can get there too.
Hope to see you post up in December.
Hope you come back to read this today. Go and post your promise in the December group to the people that are quitting today with you. Post it to them, post it to me, to Samrs, to Pky and to YOURSELF.
You quit for yourself, and have some pride in it, you will have success. Every Damn Day
I quit with you today, DonkeyMN-225
I quit yesterday (caffeine as well). It's been really really weird. My head hurts, my brain is foggy, I can't focus on anything, but I know its a good thing. I have been hammering water and it seems to help. I know my body will thank me when all the chemicals are flushed out of me.
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Hope all is well... I'm going to give all my willpower and try to quit this stuff. Today, of all days, should be a good day to quit. I have no idea how busy these forums are but I felt the need to put my hopes down somewhere... I thought it might give me that little extra bit of motivation to get me over the hump and really quit. I threw away any cans I had laying around, and I made a little calendar going though the end of the month so I can look forward to crossing out each day Im clear of this disgusting stuff. If any of you have tips I would love to hear them. Thanks for this resource!
Quit - I recommend you read Here's How You Quit... Ball Is In Your Court Now (https://www.killthecan.org/heres-how-you-quit-ball-is-in-your-court-now/). That gives you a rundown of what's up here at KTC. There is so, so much more here than just a couple of message boards.
Once you've got that, head on over to the [December]topic/30321153/]December (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30321153/) quit group[/url] and post roll. Roll is our way of promising each other that we will not have nicotine for the day. We post roll every day here. Our system is pretty simple. Wake up, post roll, and keep your word for the day. Then, the next day, do it all over again. If you make that promise early - first thing every morning - and commit to making it every day, no matter what, then your chances of staying quit will go up exponentially.
I really, really recommend getting plugged in over in December. These first few days are rough, and getting involved in your quit group will help immensely.
Samrs laid it out really well, but I'll reiterate that making the promise is much more impactful than simply crossing off days. Being accountable to others is more impactful than simply trying to use your own willpower. Beating this addiction will require everything you've got, but the tools here will make it more manageable.
It can be done though. I posted Day 499 today. You can get there too.
Hope to see you post up in December.
Hope you come back to read this today. Go and post your promise in the December group to the people that are quitting today with you. Post it to them, post it to me, to Samrs, to Pky and to YOURSELF.
You quit for yourself, and have some pride in it, you will have success. Every Damn Day
I quit with you today, DonkeyMN-225
I quit yesterday (caffeine as well). It's been really really weird. My head hurts, my brain is foggy, I can't focus on anything, but I know its a good thing. I have been hammering water and it seems to help. I know my body will thank me when all the chemicals are flushed out of me.
I made quit a few changes 4 years ago. Quitting nicotine is one of the best you will ever make. I was able to lose a ton of weight. Recommend if you drink booze you lay off it. Improve your eating habits but make sure you eat. Make sure you get the rest you need. I felt anger or rage many times but the only good anger to rage against the poison you are addicted too. I also locked myself in my office for the first 3 days. You don't have to be lonely. You have hundreds and hundreds of brothers here to help you. Ron
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Hey guys,
Just decided to quit today after 22 years of dipping. My brother started 10 years ago and is going through some medical issues now related to dipping. I'm a traveling salesman so I'm scared as hell I will never give myself the opportunity to stop. The crazy thing is when I'm home I can stop "cold turkey" but when I hit the road it's the first thing I want to do. I have 4 young kids and just want to be free of this crap for good. Decided I was done today like I said and have two nights planned on the road next week. Anyone give me some good advice? Should I buy Nicorette or something?
BTW, how do you start a new post??
MJW
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Hey guys,
Just decided to quit today after 22 years of dipping. My brother started 10 years ago and is going through some medical issues now related to dipping. I'm a traveling salesman so I'm scared as hell I will never give myself the opportunity to stop. The crazy thing is when I'm home I can stop "cold turkey" but when I hit the road it's the first thing I want to do. I have 4 young kids and just want to be free of this crap for good. Decided I was done today like I said and have two nights planned on the road next week. Anyone give me some good advice? Should I buy Nicorette or something?
BTW, how do you start a new post??
MJW
Congrats on the decision MJW!
First of all, no to the nicorette. Gum, patches, etc. won't to anything to help you quit - it's just a different delivery method for the same drug. You'll prolong your withdrawal and be miserable, without actually doing anything to allow your body to start healing.
This is going to sound stupidly obvious, but just don't dip. Next time you get the urge to throw in a dip, do something else. Go for a walk, eat a ham sandwich, take off your shoe and throw it at a pigeon... whatever floats your boat. The more times you do that in a row, the easier it gets. Eventually, you won't feel the need to dip anymore.
At KTC, we operate on a One Day At A Time principle. Quit today, just today, and worry about tomorrow when it gets here. Anyone can go without dipping for one day. Withdrawal is unpleasant, but it won't physically harm you, so get through the immediate crave and don't worry about the future. We have a system called "Posting Roll." In the Quit Group forum at this site, you post a promise every single day, first thing, that you will not use any nicotine product. You have to keep that promise and then make it again the next day. Specific instructions can be found on those pages.
Additionally, by doing that, you'll have access to a deep and committed support information network. It's a great place to vent, commiserate and learn about the quitting process. I realize that it sounds a little weird to make a promise to a bunch of strangers on the internet, but I promise you that it is effective. Quitting is achievable, you can do it and it is worth it.
I posted day 501 today. I'm not special, I just used the tools here to my advantage. I hope you choose to do the same. Reach out if I can help.
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Hey guys,
Just decided to quit today after 22 years of dipping. My brother started 10 years ago and is going through some medical issues now related to dipping. I'm a traveling salesman so I'm scared as hell I will never give myself the opportunity to stop. The crazy thing is when I'm home I can stop "cold turkey" but when I hit the road it's the first thing I want to do. I have 4 young kids and just want to be free of this crap for good. Decided I was done today like I said and have two nights planned on the road next week. Anyone give me some good advice? Should I buy Nicorette or something?
BTW, how do you start a new post??
MJW
Congrats on the decision MJW!
First of all, no to the nicorette. Gum, patches, etc. won't to anything to help you quit - it's just a different delivery method for the same drug. You'll prolong your withdrawal and be miserable, without actually doing anything to allow your body to start healing.
This is going to sound stupidly obvious, but just don't dip. Next time you get the urge to throw in a dip, do something else. Go for a walk, eat a ham sandwich, take off your shoe and throw it at a pigeon... whatever floats your boat. The more times you do that in a row, the easier it gets. Eventually, you won't feel the need to dip anymore.
At KTC, we operate on a One Day At A Time principle. Quit today, just today, and worry about tomorrow when it gets here. Anyone can go without dipping for one day. Withdrawal is unpleasant, but it won't physically harm you, so get through the immediate crave and don't worry about the future. We have a system called "Posting Roll." In the Quit Group forum at this site, you post a promise every single day, first thing, that you will not use any nicotine product. You have to keep that promise and then make it again the next day. Specific instructions can be found on those pages.
Additionally, by doing that, you'll have access to a deep and committed support information network. It's a great place to vent, commiserate and learn about the quitting process. I realize that it sounds a little weird to make a promise to a bunch of strangers on the internet, but I promise you that it is effective. Quitting is achievable, you can do it and it is worth it.
I posted day 501 today. I'm not special, I just used the tools here to my advantage. I hope you choose to do the same. Reach out if I can help.
Appreciate that response very much. I posted roll for the first time today and going to commit to making sure it's the first thing I do every morning. After being on this site today I can truly fell that this first trip is going to be a little easier knowing the support is out there. Throwing a shoe at a pigeon made me laugh my ass off. Talk soon!
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Hey guys,
Just decided to quit today after 22 years of dipping. My brother started 10 years ago and is going through some medical issues now related to dipping. I'm a traveling salesman so I'm scared as hell I will never give myself the opportunity to stop. The crazy thing is when I'm home I can stop "cold turkey" but when I hit the road it's the first thing I want to do. I have 4 young kids and just want to be free of this crap for good. Decided I was done today like I said and have two nights planned on the road next week. Anyone give me some good advice? Should I buy Nicorette or something?
BTW, how do you start a new post??
MJW
Congrats on the decision MJW!
First of all, no to the nicorette. Gum, patches, etc. won't to anything to help you quit - it's just a different delivery method for the same drug. You'll prolong your withdrawal and be miserable, without actually doing anything to allow your body to start healing.
This is going to sound stupidly obvious, but just don't dip. Next time you get the urge to throw in a dip, do something else. Go for a walk, eat a ham sandwich, take off your shoe and throw it at a pigeon... whatever floats your boat. The more times you do that in a row, the easier it gets. Eventually, you won't feel the need to dip anymore.
At KTC, we operate on a One Day At A Time principle. Quit today, just today, and worry about tomorrow when it gets here. Anyone can go without dipping for one day. Withdrawal is unpleasant, but it won't physically harm you, so get through the immediate crave and don't worry about the future. We have a system called "Posting Roll." In the Quit Group forum at this site, you post a promise every single day, first thing, that you will not use any nicotine product. You have to keep that promise and then make it again the next day. Specific instructions can be found on those pages.
Additionally, by doing that, you'll have access to a deep and committed support information network. It's a great place to vent, commiserate and learn about the quitting process. I realize that it sounds a little weird to make a promise to a bunch of strangers on the internet, but I promise you that it is effective. Quitting is achievable, you can do it and it is worth it.
I posted day 501 today. I'm not special, I just used the tools here to my advantage. I hope you choose to do the same. Reach out if I can help.
Appreciate that response very much. I posted roll for the first time today and going to commit to making sure it's the first thing I do every morning. After being on this site today I can truly fell that this first trip is going to be a little easier knowing the support is out there. Throwing a shoe at a pigeon made me laugh my ass off. Talk soon!
Posted Roll already and ready to conquer Day 2! Good to quit with all you folks today!
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Hey guys,
Just decided to quit today after 22 years of dipping. My brother started 10 years ago and is going through some medical issues now related to dipping. I'm a traveling salesman so I'm scared as hell I will never give myself the opportunity to stop. The crazy thing is when I'm home I can stop "cold turkey" but when I hit the road it's the first thing I want to do. I have 4 young kids and just want to be free of this crap for good. Decided I was done today like I said and have two nights planned on the road next week. Anyone give me some good advice? Should I buy Nicorette or something?
BTW, how do you start a new post??
MJW
Congrats on the decision MJW!
First of all, no to the nicorette. Gum, patches, etc. won't to anything to help you quit - it's just a different delivery method for the same drug. You'll prolong your withdrawal and be miserable, without actually doing anything to allow your body to start healing.
This is going to sound stupidly obvious, but just don't dip. Next time you get the urge to throw in a dip, do something else. Go for a walk, eat a ham sandwich, take off your shoe and throw it at a pigeon... whatever floats your boat. The more times you do that in a row, the easier it gets. Eventually, you won't feel the need to dip anymore.
At KTC, we operate on a One Day At A Time principle. Quit today, just today, and worry about tomorrow when it gets here. Anyone can go without dipping for one day. Withdrawal is unpleasant, but it won't physically harm you, so get through the immediate crave and don't worry about the future. We have a system called "Posting Roll." In the Quit Group forum at this site, you post a promise every single day, first thing, that you will not use any nicotine product. You have to keep that promise and then make it again the next day. Specific instructions can be found on those pages.
Additionally, by doing that, you'll have access to a deep and committed support information network. It's a great place to vent, commiserate and learn about the quitting process. I realize that it sounds a little weird to make a promise to a bunch of strangers on the internet, but I promise you that it is effective. Quitting is achievable, you can do it and it is worth it.
I posted day 501 today. I'm not special, I just used the tools here to my advantage. I hope you choose to do the same. Reach out if I can help.
Appreciate that response very much. I posted roll for the first time today and going to commit to making sure it's the first thing I do every morning. After being on this site today I can truly fell that this first trip is going to be a little easier knowing the support is out there. Throwing a shoe at a pigeon made me laugh my ass off. Talk soon!
Posted Roll already and ready to conquer Day 2! Good to quit with all you folks today!
Congrats on the best decision you will ever make. I too am in sales and cover portions of 4 states. Driving long trips in the truck between calls used to be prime dipping time for me. I would punch in the top of a Diet Coke can and the nasty thing would often be overflowing with brown shit by the time I got to the next call. I would park away from the guard shack so I could dump that vile shit in the parking lot unseen. Then half of the folks I would call on in the plant usually had a turd in their lip. I am proud to be 9 years free of that crap. It will be a difficult road but its WORTH it to get that monkey out of your life. Use the tools we have here and get involved with both feet and you WILL quit!!!! Life is way better without the can!!!!!! My gums were a mess but otherwise I dodged a bullet quitting when I did. If you need anything or have any questions shoot me a PM and I will give you my number.
Kdip - 3301
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New guy here. Made the decision to quit yesterday. I have hurt my family too many times with my lies. I always go back to the can. But not this time. I can tell this website is the place to be.
Matt - Day 2
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New guy here. Made the decision to quit yesterday. I have hurt my family too many times with my lies. I always go back to the can. But not this time. I can tell this website is the place to be.
Matt - Day 2
Welcome to the best choice you will make all day!!
It looks like you jumped in already with a roll post and starting an intro. That's great!!
Wake up tomorrow and repeat!
Glad to quit with you today!
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New guy here. Made the decision to quit yesterday. I have hurt my family too many times with my lies. I always go back to the can. But not this time. I can tell this website is the place to be.
Matt - Day 2
Welcome to the best choice you will make all day!!
It looks like you jumped in already with a roll post and starting an intro. That's great!!
Wake up tomorrow and repeat!
Glad to quit with you today!
Good Job man and glad to quit with you as well. Just about to finish my first week (including a business trip) nic free in 20 years and it feels unreal. Keep it up man!
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Hello everyone. I can't tell you how excited I was to come across this website. It was from here where I made the decision to rid myself of this nasty habit. It has plagued me since college and i believe that this addiction prevented me from enjoying a full and happy life. A part of me also feels that I chose this over the life I could of had with my ex fiancé. I'd do anything to take it all back and still be with her.
I want my life back and I won't stop fighting.
CB
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Could someone make a KTC app for smartphones?
Just a thought as I think it would be an awesome idea
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Could someone make a KTC app for smartphones?
Just a thought as I think it would be an awesome idea
Or get us on Tapatalk, mobile friendly would make life so much easier. Its the way of the future
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Could someone make a KTC app for smartphones?
Just a thought as I think it would be an awesome idea
Or get us on Tapatalk, mobile friendly would make life so much easier. Its the way of the future
There's a thread for providing input on new forum software (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30193051/).
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Could someone make a KTC app for smartphones?
Just a thought as I think it would be an awesome idea
Or get us on Tapatalk, mobile friendly would make life so much easier. Its the way of the future
There's a thread for providing input on new forum software (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30193051/).
Thanks for the info Samrs
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Could someone make a KTC app for smartphones?
Just a thought as I think it would be an awesome idea
Or get us on Tapatalk, mobile friendly would make life so much easier. Its the way of the future
There's a thread for providing input on new forum software (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30193051/).
Thanks for the info Samrs
We've played with Tapatalk... it's hot garbage for this particular forum software.
Mobile ease in on our roadmap... it's just a slow road as there are many factors that go into it (not just ease of use)
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Could someone make a KTC app for smartphones?
Just a thought as I think it would be an awesome idea
Or get us on Tapatalk, mobile friendly would make life so much easier. Its the way of the future
There's a thread for providing input on new forum software (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30193051/).
Thanks for the info Samrs
We've played with Tapatalk... it's hot garbage for this particular forum software.
Mobile ease in on our roadmap... it's just a slow road as there are many factors that go into it (not just ease of use)
Good to know Chewie
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I have a general question. I've quit dipping for two months now and have tried the alternatives (Jakes, Grinds) and they don't do it for me. I was wondering if swedish snus is just as bad for you as american dip?
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I have a general question. I've quit dipping for two months now and have tried the alternatives (Jakes, Grinds) and they don't do it for me. I was wondering if swedish snus is just as bad for you as american dip?
Snus is made from tobacco and contains nicotine.
This would be similar to asking an alcoholic if Miller Lite was just as bad for them as Jack Daniel's.
I'd suggest that snus is not a good alternative for american dip.
Chewie
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I'm loving this site! I also vote for an iPhone/Android app of some kind. It doesn't have to be forum related, I think even just something that reassured you that what you're going through is reasonably normal based on your quit date. Maybe offers encouragement if you're really feeling the urge.
Anyway... I'm on day #4 of my last (and final) quit. I made it over a year the first time (about seven years ago), and then fell back in due to some crap that I was going through in life at the time.
I honestly don't remember it being this bad the first time. I think I'm less irritable, but am definitely feeling the other symptoms worse than I remember from before. I'm very fortunate to have a close friend that's encouraging me every step of the way. I'm not sure I could do this without her!
Thank you from the bottom of my heart for this site. It prepped me for my quit date and has helped me through my first four days (and counting)
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I'm loving this site! I also vote for an iPhone/Android app of some kind. It doesn't have to be forum related, I think even just something that reassured you that what you're going through is reasonably normal based on your quit date. Maybe offers encouragement if you're really feeling the urge.
Anyway... I'm on day #4 of my last (and final) quit. I made it over a year the first time (about seven years ago), and then fell back in due to some crap that I was going through in life at the time.
I honestly don't remember it being this bad the first time. I think I'm less irritable, but am definitely feeling the other symptoms worse than I remember from before. I'm very fortunate to have a close friend that's encouraging me every step of the way. I'm not sure I could do this without her!
Thank you from the bottom of my heart for this site. It prepped me for my quit date and has helped me through my first four days (and counting)
Have you found the Quit Groups? That's the best way to tap in to the full network of support and accountability available at this site.
Welcome and congrats on your quit!
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Hey guys,
Just a general question here, how many of you have used the fake stuff, especially early on? I'm on day 8 and feel pretty good (had bad anxiety day 5 but pretty good other than that) and I just started using Smokey Mountain to help with the cravings. I feel like it helps a lot especially during my long commute which is when I would typically dip but I am finding I'm wanting to do it all the time. Is that just the cravings coming on strong or am I wasting my time with this stuff?
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Hey guys,
Just a general question here, how many of you have used the fake stuff, especially early on? I'm on day 8 and feel pretty good (had bad anxiety day 5 but pretty good other than that) and I just started using Smokey Mountain to help with the cravings. I feel like it helps a lot especially during my long commute which is when I would typically dip but I am finding I'm wanting to do it all the time. Is that just the cravings coming on strong or am I wasting my time with this stuff?
Use whatever you need to! Keep that poison out of your lip. I used fake off and on for the first 50 days. I carry a tin of fake everywhere I go, at 282 days. ItÂ’s just another tool that keep nicotine away. I know a few use of their first few years, and some never use it.
I guess what IÂ’m saying, use it if you like. ThereÂ’s nothing wrong with using it.
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Hey guys,
Just a general question here, how many of you have used the fake stuff, especially early on? I'm on day 8 and feel pretty good (had bad anxiety day 5 but pretty good other than that) and I just started using Smokey Mountain to help with the cravings. I feel like it helps a lot especially during my long commute which is when I would typically dip but I am finding I'm wanting to do it all the time. Is that just the cravings coming on strong or am I wasting my time with this stuff?
Use whatever you need to! Keep that poison out of your lip. I used fake off and on for the first 50 days. I carry a tin of fake everywhere I go, at 282 days. ItÂ’s just another tool that keep nicotine away. I know a few use of their first few years, and some never use it.
I guess what IÂ’m saying, use it if you like. ThereÂ’s nothing wrong with using it.
Amen Batdad.
I think eventually the crave for fake stuff goes. Or the 'needing something in your mouth' goes away. It has for me. I used fake for a while, couple months. It just wasn't for me. I did use alot of seeds, until the DR. told me all that salt was bad for me. You'll figure it out Matt. What works for you.
Until then as BD says use anything you can.
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I still have very strong cravings at 156 days into my quit. Not sure if its just me or not. I chewed for 35 years and hope eventially these intence cravings will end one day. I guess i thought after this long they would be gone. Has anyone else had the same thing happen to them at this point or is it just me.
Dvelch
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I still have very strong cravings at 156 days into my quit. Not sure if its just me or not. I chewed for 35 years and hope eventially these intence cravings will end one day. I guess i thought after this long they would be gone. Has anyone else had the same thing happen to them at this point or is it just me.
Dvelch
You have 17 posts here, yet you are quit 156 days strong. That is the epitome of doing it by yourself.
Do I still have cravings? Sure. But they are gone very quickly and I have learned a few ways to make them subside.
The only real advice I would have is to get involved around here, talk to other quitters and read some of what has worked for others. Sometimes a text to another person is all it takes to shake that bitch off my shoulders and keep moving on with my day. Ain't got time for her dragging me down.
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Day three of no dip...
I turned 48 in August, and I've been dipping and smoking since I was a teenager, stopped smoking in 2003, picked it back up in 2013 during a stint in rehab, smoked for about a year then went to vaping - stopped vaping a couple months ago, dipping the whole time.
On 12/31/14 I had my last drink and drug, my sobriety date is 1/1/15, that was tough as hell.
In recovery, I've put down a lot of stuff that's bad for ME, and picked up a lot of stuff that's good for ME - next "bad" thing to go is the dip (and nicotine, for good and for real - no more switching delivery methods). Except - :-) I am sucking on those 4mg lozenges to help get over the hump, I don't plan to use those more than a few days - until Friday. - EDITED - THREW THEM OUT AFTER SEEING THAT'S NOT WHAT YA'LL DO HERE
I did formal 6th and 7th steps Sunday night after I threw away my last empty can - cleaned up all the spit cups and emptied all the trash cans (must have been a dozen empty cans in my bedroom trash can alone since last Tuesday's trash day).
I've been going thru a five can roll of Grizzly Long Cut Straight every two or three days lately, I'm done, little voice is saying "enough".
I found this site googling "sore throat after stopping dipping", I have a few friends in recovery that are quitting too, gonna use the same tools we used to get sober and #1 is we don't have to ever do anything alone again.
Thanks for all the info here, it really solidifies my decision to quit.
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Day three of no dip...
I turned 48 in August, and I've been dipping and smoking since I was a teenager, stopped smoking in 2003, picked it back up in 2013 during a stint in rehab, smoked for about a year then went to vaping - stopped vaping a couple months ago, dipping the whole time.
On 12/31/14 I had my last drink and drug, my sobriety date is 1/1/15, that was tough as hell.
In recovery, I've put down a lot of stuff that's bad for ME, and picked up a lot of stuff that's good for ME - next "bad" thing to go is the dip (and nicotine, for good and for real - no more switching delivery methods). Except - :-) I am sucking on those 4mg lozenges to help get over the hump, I don't plan to use those more than a few days - until Friday. - EDITED - THREW THEM OUT AFTER SEEING THAT'S NOT WHAT YA'LL DO HERE
I did formal 6th and 7th steps Sunday night after I threw away my last empty can - cleaned up all the spit cups and emptied all the trash cans (must have been a dozen empty cans in my bedroom trash can alone since last Tuesday's trash day).
I've been going thru a five can roll of Grizzly Long Cut Straight every two or three days lately, I'm done, little voice is saying "enough".
I found this site googling "sore throat after stopping dipping", I have a few friends in recovery that are quitting too, gonna use the same tools we used to get sober and #1 is we don't have to ever do anything alone again.
Thanks for all the info here, it really solidifies my decision to quit.
Welcome Dogon! You came to the RIGHT place to quit dipping. Considering your strengths to be able to stop other things, I think you CAN DO THIS! Congratulations on your sobriety!!!!
Brother, dig in deep. Get pissed, and get quitting. Stay close to KTC my friend. Read up on this site. Read the HOF speeches and intros. When you are ready for the next step, join the newbie quit group and get to posting roll to enjoy the FULL POWER of what KTC has to offer
The brotherhood on here is second to none. It has me at 794 days and counting!
Proud of you man, ANOTHER great decision to quit something that is bad for you!!
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I still have very strong cravings at 156 days into my quit. Not sure if its just me or not. I chewed for 35 years and hope eventially these intence cravings will end one day. I guess i thought after this long they would be gone. Has anyone else had the same thing happen to them at this point or is it just me.
Dvelch
You have 17 posts here, yet you are quit 156 days strong. That is the epitome of doing it by yourself.
Do I still have cravings? Sure. But they are gone very quickly and I have learned a few ways to make them subside.
The only real advice I would have is to get involved around here, talk to other quitters and read some of what has worked for others. Sometimes a text to another person is all it takes to shake that bitch off my shoulders and keep moving on with my day. Ain't got time for her dragging me down.
I havnt been doing it myself, have been on this site since day one, only didnt know how to post roll. Ive read every post, and past posts that helped me get through till this point. Just asking a question. Everyone still does it alone, may have support, but still alone.
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I still have very strong cravings at 156 days into my quit. Not sure if its just me or not. I chewed for 35 years and hope eventially these intence cravings will end one day. I guess i thought after this long they would be gone. Has anyone else had the same thing happen to them at this point or is it just me.
Dvelch
You have 17 posts here, yet you are quit 156 days strong. That is the epitome of doing it by yourself.
Do I still have cravings? Sure. But they are gone very quickly and I have learned a few ways to make them subside.
The only real advice I would have is to get involved around here, talk to other quitters and read some of what has worked for others. Sometimes a text to another person is all it takes to shake that bitch off my shoulders and keep moving on with my day. Ain't got time for her dragging me down.
I havnt been doing it myself, have been on this site since day one, only didnt know how to post roll. Ive read every post, and past posts that helped me get through till this point. Just asking a question. Everyone still does it alone, may have support, but still alone.
I guess to answer your original question.... YES. It is normal to have strong cravings at day 156 but they should be shorter, you should have a pack of gum to naw on nearby, or some fake dip to get you through. They normally do not come very often, I now go days without but it is all a mind game. Nicotine has played with the way you percieve life for so long, that weird memories or activities will create an enormous craving. But here's a secret that I have learned. -
The first time you go through those craving situations are the worst. When I went fishing for the first time, it fucking sucked. Then, the second time was a pain in the ass, then the third was a little uncomfortable... now I am back to enjoying it because I kept at it. I am not going to let that nic bitch rule my life any more. Fuck that shit, I am taking my life back.
You are right, ultimately you are alone. But you need to get yourself to hate it. Hate the fact that you even have cravings, and you focus that hate towards nicotine and what it has done to you.
Take your life back.
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Well put! Thanks for the advise. You are absolutly right on getting youself to hate the shit. I knew i was addicted, but not as much as i realized i was till i quit. When you think about it you wonder how that shit is sold legally! Its really no better that any illegal drug like heroin ect. But the companies that distribute and sell it can profit on all the millions of people they have under their grasp! Its mind boggling when you think anout it.
I am glad i broke away from its grasp, i just feel bad that so many are still under its control, and it even has a place in our society!
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No nicotine FOREVER!
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So I am 323 days into my quit and I am struggling. I have my good days and weeks, but i still have my bad ones to. I have desperately been looking for an avenue to vent my frustrations to that understands what I'm going through. I can say that I have made it this far through the love and support of my family, but when I have those bad days, which I still do. Venting to my loved ones who do not understand what I'm going through kills me sometimes. Especially when I get the response like "well just don't do it." It drives me nuts.... thanks for listening...
Joe
Dip free since 12/06/2016
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So I am 323 days into my quit and I am struggling. I have my good days and weeks, but i still have my bad ones to. I have desperately been looking for an avenue to vent my frustrations to that understands what I'm going through. I can say that I have made it this far through the love and support of my family, but when I have those bad days, which I still do. Venting to my loved ones who do not understand what I'm going through kills me sometimes. Especially when I get the response like "well just don't do it." It drives me nuts.... thanks for listening...
Joe
Dip free since 12/06/2016
323 days on your own?? That's bad ass!!
296 myself, and actually have had my first couple of days without a crave. I know it's only temporary... but that's ok
There is no magic cure, we are all addicts. All we can do is keep it out of our mouths today.
The people in March 2017 are about the same days in as you... Have may want to post your question in there. If you don't get the answer you want, feel free to post it in April 17
March 2017 (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30081110/1911/)
April 2017 (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30106725/2291/#new)
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So I am 323 days into my quit and I am struggling. I have my good days and weeks, but i still have my bad ones to. I have desperately been looking for an avenue to vent my frustrations to that understands what I'm going through. I can say that I have made it this far through the love and support of my family, but when I have those bad days, which I still do. Venting to my loved ones who do not understand what I'm going through kills me sometimes. Especially when I get the response like "well just don't do it." It drives me nuts.... thanks for listening...
Joe
Dip free since 12/06/2016
323 days on your own?? That's bad ass!!
296 myself, and actually have had my first couple of days without a crave. I know it's only temporary... but that's ok
There is no magic cure, we are all addicts. All we can do is keep it out of our mouths today.
The people in March 2017 are about the same days in as you... Have may want to post your question in there. If you don't get the answer you want, feel free to post it in April 17
March 2017 (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30081110/1911/)
April 2017 (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30106725/2291/#new)
I haven't posted in the groups yet. I'm still not quite sure what I'm suppose post. But either I'm just looking for a little help. Because we all need it from time to time. Im at the point where my daily cravings aren't really there but I have these really vivid dip dreams from time to time, and the days after them are really rough
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So I am 323 days into my quit and I am struggling. I have my good days and weeks, but i still have my bad ones to. I have desperately been looking for an avenue to vent my frustrations to that understands what I'm going through. I can say that I have made it this far through the love and support of my family, but when I have those bad days, which I still do. Venting to my loved ones who do not understand what I'm going through kills me sometimes. Especially when I get the response like "well just don't do it." It drives me nuts.... thanks for listening...
Joe
Dip free since 12/06/2016
323 days on your own?? That's bad ass!!
296 myself, and actually have had my first couple of days without a crave. I know it's only temporary... but that's ok
There is no magic cure, we are all addicts. All we can do is keep it out of our mouths today.
The people in March 2017 are about the same days in as you... Have may want to post your question in there. If you don't get the answer you want, feel free to post it in April 17
March 2017 (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30081110/1911/)
April 2017 (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30106725/2291/#new)
I haven't posted in the groups yet. I'm still not quite sure what I'm suppose post. But either I'm just looking for a little help. Because we all need it from time to time. Im at the point where my daily cravings aren't really there but I have these really vivid dip dreams from time to time, and the days after them are really rough
It will take YEARS to recovery from the effects of nicotine..... Anytime you want to vent, come in here and let us have it. We're all big boys and girls and can take the frustration head on..... 300 plus days solo is something awesome bubba! Quith you today!
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I agree 323 days quit is awesome, it gives me encouragement that I can make it there to your point. Me being only 165 days quit, i know the struggles you go through all too well! Sometimes your OK then it comes on you like you just quit today, its weird and a fight, but worth it!
Keep up the fight you are awesome!!!
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So I am 323 days into my quit and I am struggling. I have my good days and weeks, but i still have my bad ones to. I have desperately been looking for an avenue to vent my frustrations to that understands what I'm going through. I can say that I have made it this far through the love and support of my family, but when I have those bad days, which I still do. Venting to my loved ones who do not understand what I'm going through kills me sometimes. Especially when I get the response like "well just don't do it." It drives me nuts.... thanks for listening...
Joe
Dip free since 12/06/2016
323 days on your own?? That's bad ass!!
296 myself, and actually have had my first couple of days without a crave. I know it's only temporary... but that's ok
There is no magic cure, we are all addicts. All we can do is keep it out of our mouths today.
The people in March 2017 are about the same days in as you... Have may want to post your question in there. If you don't get the answer you want, feel free to post it in April 17
March 2017 (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30081110/1911/)
April 2017 (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30106725/2291/#new)
I haven't posted in the groups yet. I'm still not quite sure what I'm suppose post. But either I'm just looking for a little help. Because we all need it from time to time. Im at the point where my daily cravings aren't really there but I have these really vivid dip dreams from time to time, and the days after them are really rough
It will take YEARS to recovery from the effects of nicotine..... Anytime you want to vent, come in here and let us have it. We're all big boys and girls and can take the frustration head on..... 300 plus days solo is something awesome bubba! Quith you today!
March 2017 would be your quit group. You can find them here: topic/30081110/503/#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30081110/503/#new)
March 2017 is the HOF month for your group. HOF stands for Hall of Fame or when your group all hit 100 days of quit.
Get into the welcome center and learn about roll and the importance of posting daily.
Make friends, hang out, and support one another. That is what makes KTC work.
Raider
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So I am 323 days into my quit and I am struggling. I have my good days and weeks, but i still have my bad ones to. I have desperately been looking for an avenue to vent my frustrations to that understands what I'm going through. I can say that I have made it this far through the love and support of my family, but when I have those bad days, which I still do. Venting to my loved ones who do not understand what I'm going through kills me sometimes. Especially when I get the response like "well just don't do it." It drives me nuts.... thanks for listening...
Joe
Dip free since 12/06/2016
323 days on your own?? That's bad ass!!
296 myself, and actually have had my first couple of days without a crave. I know it's only temporary... but that's ok
There is no magic cure, we are all addicts. All we can do is keep it out of our mouths today.
The people in March 2017 are about the same days in as you... Have may want to post your question in there. If you don't get the answer you want, feel free to post it in April 17
March 2017 (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30081110/1911/)
April 2017 (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30106725/2291/#new)
I haven't posted in the groups yet. I'm still not quite sure what I'm suppose post. But either I'm just looking for a little help. Because we all need it from time to time. Im at the point where my daily cravings aren't really there but I have these really vivid dip dreams from time to time, and the days after them are really rough
It will take YEARS to recovery from the effects of nicotine..... Anytime you want to vent, come in here and let us have it. We're all big boys and girls and can take the frustration head on..... 300 plus days solo is something awesome bubba! Quith you today!
March 2017 would be your quit group. You can find them here: topic/30081110/503/#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30081110/503/#new)
March 2017 is the HOF month for your group. HOF stands for Hall of Fame or when your group all hit 100 days of quit.
Get into the welcome center and learn about roll and the importance of posting daily.
Make friends, hang out, and support one another. That is what makes KTC work.
Raider
Thats what Makes KTC work
is right on man!
Get in there and spread some quit mojo on your group, get into INTROS and help a newbie along. Mentor the, teach them, be there for them, exchange numbers with them, shoot em a text at a random time, just checking on them and their quit. You never know, your text could hit them at just the perfect moment when they need it......
best part, When they make it to the HOF, it'll feel like YOU are making it to the HOF. Its really a wonderful feeling.
So glad you made it this afar on your own. Total bad assery. I think KTC will help limit those bad days, this is your avenue to vent,
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HAPPY HALLOWEEN QUITTERS!!!
Halloween has a special place in my heart as it's the anniversary of my HOF. October 31st, 2006 I hit 100 days of freedom.
I wasn't cured, but it felt damn good. To this day quitting chew is right behind my wife kids as my proudest moments. To this day I OWN my quit every... single... day.
I don't want to forget. Even now, 11+ years later, I know that deep, deep down, I'm an addict. I haven't heard from her in a while, but the Nic Bitch is there. Looming. Waiting for me to make a bad decision. I rarely if ever think about her, but I remind myself every now and then that she is in fact there.
Whether you're on day 1, 100 or beyond keep quitting. It's worth it. Believe me when I say I know how bad it sucks. Believe me when I say I know what you're feeling. Believe me when I say I know you want to give up some days and go back to your comfortable little round can. I was just like you.
I wanted to give up. I wanted that comfort that my Kodiak brought me. I wanted to sleep better. I wanted to get rid of the weight I'd gained when I quit. I wanted to go back to being 'Chewie'. Not to have one... but to 'live the life' of a dipper again.
And now... I wouldn't trade all that pain, suffering and withdrawal for anything. It is those things that have honed my quit to be what it is today - rock fucking solid.
Own your quit. Make your decision. Quit one day at a time. These may sound cliche around here but they work.
Damn proud to be quit with each and every one of you today. Whether we've ever met, ever interacted, ever even known about one another... you are a part of my quit. And for that I am forever grateful.
Chewie
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I have a serious question for all the parents out there.
My son will turn one this month. He has been eating table food for about a month now. We are usually keeping him to only a bottle in the morning and one at night. The rest of the food he was eating was table food. About two weeks ago, he quit eating table food at day care. He would still eat it at home, just not at daycare. He would see the other babies eating the purees and he would keep pointing to them like he only wants the pures or milk. This past week that behavior has trickled into our home. He now will not eat table food at daycare or at home. I really want to ween him off of all bottles, but it seems like we are moving backwards. The last two nights i have let him sit in his high chair with food that he likes for a hour with him jsut screaming the whole time. He didn't even want to touch the food.
We need help. I need to figure out how to get him to eat food again.
Any words of wisdom or ideas would be much appreciated.
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I have a serious question for all the parents out there.
My son will turn one this month. He has been eating table food for about a month now. We are usually keeping him to only a bottle in the morning and one at night. The rest of the food he was eating was table food. About two weeks ago, he quit eating table food at day care. He would still eat it at home, just not at daycare. He would see the other babies eating the purees and he would keep pointing to them like he only wants the pures or milk. This past week that behavior has trickled into our home. He now will not eat table food at daycare or at home. I really want to ween him off of all bottles, but it seems like we are moving backwards. The last two nights i have let him sit in his high chair with food that he likes for a hour with him jsut screaming the whole time. He didn't even want to touch the food.
We need help. I need to figure out how to get him to eat food again.
Any words of wisdom or ideas would be much appreciated.
It is likely just a phase. He isn't even one yet, no need to feed him porkchops (jk)
Let him eat what ever he will, but I do agree that the bottles need to go soon. Buy some high quality sippy cups and get him on those otherwise his developing teeth will get messed up.
See what happens in a few weeks, and/or figure out if there is a certain puree that he really likes and dont give it to him, but give him the solid alternative. i.e. if he really likes banana in the goop, no more of that one but cut up bananas are an option.
But mostly just chill - hes 11 months old
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I have a serious question for all the parents out there.
My son will turn one this month. He has been eating table food for about a month now. We are usually keeping him to only a bottle in the morning and one at night. The rest of the food he was eating was table food. About two weeks ago, he quit eating table food at day care. He would still eat it at home, just not at daycare. He would see the other babies eating the purees and he would keep pointing to them like he only wants the pures or milk. This past week that behavior has trickled into our home. He now will not eat table food at daycare or at home. I really want to ween him off of all bottles, but it seems like we are moving backwards. The last two nights i have let him sit in his high chair with food that he likes for a hour with him jsut screaming the whole time. He didn't even want to touch the food.
We need help. I need to figure out how to get him to eat food again.
Any words of wisdom or ideas would be much appreciated.
It is likely just a phase. He isn't even one yet, no need to feed him porkchops (jk)
Let him eat what ever he will, but I do agree that the bottles need to go soon. Buy some high quality sippy cups and get him on those otherwise his developing teeth will get messed up.
See what happens in a few weeks, and/or figure out if there is a certain puree that he really likes and dont give it to him, but give him the solid alternative. i.e. if he really likes banana in the goop, no more of that one but cut up bananas are an option.
But mostly just chill - hes 11 months old
He has plenty of sippy cups and loves juice and water and knows how to drink from them and all that...
The thing is that we know he likes all of these foods, he just knows that a bottle being given to him is much easier. It like he is throwing fits to see what he can get away with.
Update...Day care called and said he doesn't even want the purees anymore. Only wants bottle. How can he be regressing when it comes to eating?
I'm usually pretty calm about things, but constantly hearing my wife worry about it has me looking for answers.
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I have a serious question for all the parents out there.
My son will turn one this month. He has been eating table food for about a month now. We are usually keeping him to only a bottle in the morning and one at night. The rest of the food he was eating was table food. About two weeks ago, he quit eating table food at day care. He would still eat it at home, just not at daycare. He would see the other babies eating the purees and he would keep pointing to them like he only wants the pures or milk. This past week that behavior has trickled into our home. He now will not eat table food at daycare or at home. I really want to ween him off of all bottles, but it seems like we are moving backwards. The last two nights i have let him sit in his high chair with food that he likes for a hour with him jsut screaming the whole time. He didn't even want to touch the food.
We need help. I need to figure out how to get him to eat food again.
Any words of wisdom or ideas would be much appreciated.
It is likely just a phase. He isn't even one yet, no need to feed him porkchops (jk)
Let him eat what ever he will, but I do agree that the bottles need to go soon. Buy some high quality sippy cups and get him on those otherwise his developing teeth will get messed up.
See what happens in a few weeks, and/or figure out if there is a certain puree that he really likes and dont give it to him, but give him the solid alternative. i.e. if he really likes banana in the goop, no more of that one but cut up bananas are an option.
But mostly just chill - hes 11 months old
He has plenty of sippy cups and loves juice and water and knows how to drink from them and all that...
The thing is that we know he likes all of these foods, he just knows that a bottle being given to him is much easier. It like he is throwing fits to see what he can get away with.
Update...Day care called and said he doesn't even want the purees anymore. Only wants bottle. How can he be regressing when it comes to eating?
I'm usually pretty calm about things, but constantly hearing my wife worry about it has me looking for answers.
Well it has been about 6 years since I was in your shoes, but I seem to remember taking the NUK and bottle away from my kids around 1 yr old, and going to 2% milk in a sippy then.
Sure he is testing you to see what he gets away with.... get used to it roflmao
I still wouldn't worry too much about it, but if you truly are - you and your daycare people had damn well get on the same playbook if you are going to try something. One side doing something at home and having the other undo it at daycare is a recipie for disaster.
Good luck, and welcome to parenthood. flame1
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I have a serious question for all the parents out there.
My son will turn one this month. He has been eating table food for about a month now. We are usually keeping him to only a bottle in the morning and one at night. The rest of the food he was eating was table food. About two weeks ago, he quit eating table food at day care. He would still eat it at home, just not at daycare. He would see the other babies eating the purees and he would keep pointing to them like he only wants the pures or milk. This past week that behavior has trickled into our home. He now will not eat table food at daycare or at home. I really want to ween him off of all bottles, but it seems like we are moving backwards. The last two nights i have let him sit in his high chair with food that he likes for a hour with him jsut screaming the whole time. He didn't even want to touch the food.
We need help. I need to figure out how to get him to eat food again.
Any words of wisdom or ideas would be much appreciated.
It is likely just a phase. He isn't even one yet, no need to feed him porkchops (jk)
Let him eat what ever he will, but I do agree that the bottles need to go soon. Buy some high quality sippy cups and get him on those otherwise his developing teeth will get messed up.
See what happens in a few weeks, and/or figure out if there is a certain puree that he really likes and dont give it to him, but give him the solid alternative. i.e. if he really likes banana in the goop, no more of that one but cut up bananas are an option.
But mostly just chill - hes 11 months old
He has plenty of sippy cups and loves juice and water and knows how to drink from them and all that...
The thing is that we know he likes all of these foods, he just knows that a bottle being given to him is much easier. It like he is throwing fits to see what he can get away with.
Update...Day care called and said he doesn't even want the purees anymore. Only wants bottle. How can he be regressing when it comes to eating?
I'm usually pretty calm about things, but constantly hearing my wife worry about it has me looking for answers.
Well it has been about 6 years since I was in your shoes, but I seem to remember taking the NUK and bottle away from my kids around 1 yr old, and going to 2% milk in a sippy then.
Sure he is testing you to see what he gets away with.... get used to it roflmao
I still wouldn't worry too much about it, but if you truly are - you and your daycare people had damn well get on the same playbook if you are going to try something. One side doing something at home and having the other undo it at daycare is a recipie for disaster.
Good luck, and welcome to parenthood. flame1
That, right there, is the most fitting use of the flamethrower emoticon I have ever seen here.
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I have a serious question for all the parents out there.
My son will turn one this month. He has been eating table food for about a month now. We are usually keeping him to only a bottle in the morning and one at night. The rest of the food he was eating was table food. About two weeks ago, he quit eating table food at day care. He would still eat it at home, just not at daycare. He would see the other babies eating the purees and he would keep pointing to them like he only wants the pures or milk. This past week that behavior has trickled into our home. He now will not eat table food at daycare or at home. I really want to ween him off of all bottles, but it seems like we are moving backwards. The last two nights i have let him sit in his high chair with food that he likes for a hour with him jsut screaming the whole time. He didn't even want to touch the food.
We need help. I need to figure out how to get him to eat food again.
Any words of wisdom or ideas would be much appreciated.
It is likely just a phase. He isn't even one yet, no need to feed him porkchops (jk)
Let him eat what ever he will, but I do agree that the bottles need to go soon. Buy some high quality sippy cups and get him on those otherwise his developing teeth will get messed up.
See what happens in a few weeks, and/or figure out if there is a certain puree that he really likes and dont give it to him, but give him the solid alternative. i.e. if he really likes banana in the goop, no more of that one but cut up bananas are an option.
But mostly just chill - hes 11 months old
He has plenty of sippy cups and loves juice and water and knows how to drink from them and all that...
The thing is that we know he likes all of these foods, he just knows that a bottle being given to him is much easier. It like he is throwing fits to see what he can get away with.
Update...Day care called and said he doesn't even want the purees anymore. Only wants bottle. How can he be regressing when it comes to eating?
I'm usually pretty calm about things, but constantly hearing my wife worry about it has me looking for answers.
Well it has been about 6 years since I was in your shoes, but I seem to remember taking the NUK and bottle away from my kids around 1 yr old, and going to 2% milk in a sippy then.
Sure he is testing you to see what he gets away with.... get used to it roflmao
I still wouldn't worry too much about it, but if you truly are - you and your daycare people had damn well get on the same playbook if you are going to try something. One side doing something at home and having the other undo it at daycare is a recipie for disaster.
Good luck, and welcome to parenthood. flame1
That, right there, is the most fitting use of the flamethrower emoticon I have ever seen here.
Yea, I think I'm a little worried that our day care isn't being completely honest with us on what they are doing. Only reason is that he has never liked eating at day care according to them. They have tried "everything" but just cant get him to eat there. But we used to have zero problems with him eating at home.
I knew there was a thing as sleep regression, never knew there would be a possibility of food regression...
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Alright, I got me a hairbrained idea...
What do you guys think about crowning a member of KTC as a yearly "Quit Ambassador"?
You know, for the member that goes above and beyond helping people here at KTC.
We could vote on it, or even not have a vote.
Just let people throw out a nomination, to give props to certain members.
Maybe one nomination per member.
It'd be nice to see Samrs or FLLip or whoever, get some major love.
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Alright, I got me a hairbrained idea...
What do you guys think about crowning a member of KTC as a yearly "Quit Ambassador"?
You know, for the member that goes above and beyond helping people here at KTC.
We could vote on it, or even not have a vote.
Just let people throw out a nomination, to give props to certain members.
Maybe one nomination per member.
It'd be nice to see Samrs or FLLip or whoever, get some major love.
I knew I liked your crusty ass for some reason, and I believe you just hit on it.....
That is likely the best thing I've come across on KTC, save for KTC itself. While it would take some additional management to do correctly, I'd think that there could be a poll put up on a yearly basis, say, right at New Year's, to get the members of KTC to vote on who they feel should be recognized for helping stabilize and support the most quits. Nominations could be made the month of December, with the polls opening right at the first of the year, and the final tally concluded by the end of January.
We could even announce the winner on February 14th (show some love to the winner!!!)
I, for one, voice my support of this initiative....
(and just FYSA, I already think FLLip is the BOMB!!!) :wub:
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Alright, I got me a hairbrained idea...
What do you guys think about crowning a member of KTC as a yearly "Quit Ambassador"?
You know, for the member that goes above and beyond helping people here at KTC.
We could vote on it, or even not have a vote.
Just let people throw out a nomination, to give props to certain members.
Maybe one nomination per member.
It'd be nice to see Samrs or FLLip or whoever, get some major love.
I knew I liked your crusty ass for some reason, and I believe you just hit on it.....
That is likely the best thing I've come across on KTC, save for KTC itself. While it would take some additional management to do correctly, I'd think that there could be a poll put up on a yearly basis, say, right at New Year's, to get the members of KTC to vote on who they feel should be recognized for helping stabilize and support the most quits. Nominations could be made the month of December, with the polls opening right at the first of the year, and the final tally concluded by the end of January.
We could even announce the winner on February 14th (show some love to the winner!!!)
I, for one, voice my support of this initiative....
(and just FYSA, I already think FLLip is the BOMB!!!) :wub:
Good idea, I am in favor.
I nominate Broccoli-saurus
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Alright, I got me a hairbrained idea...
What do you guys think about crowning a member of KTC as a yearly "Quit Ambassador"?
You know, for the member that goes above and beyond helping people here at KTC.
We could vote on it, or even not have a vote.
Just let people throw out a nomination, to give props to certain members.
Maybe one nomination per member.
It'd be nice to see Samrs or FLLip or whoever, get some major love.
I knew I liked your crusty ass for some reason, and I believe you just hit on it.....
That is likely the best thing I've come across on KTC, save for KTC itself. While it would take some additional management to do correctly, I'd think that there could be a poll put up on a yearly basis, say, right at New Year's, to get the members of KTC to vote on who they feel should be recognized for helping stabilize and support the most quits. Nominations could be made the month of December, with the polls opening right at the first of the year, and the final tally concluded by the end of January.
We could even announce the winner on February 14th (show some love to the winner!!!)
I, for one, voice my support of this initiative....
(and just FYSA, I already think FLLip is the BOMB!!!) :wub:
Good idea, I am in favor.
I nominate Broccoli-saurus
That is a great nomination Casus!!!!!
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Alright, I got me a hairbrained idea...
What do you guys think about crowning a member of KTC as a yearly "Quit Ambassador"?
You know, for the member that goes above and beyond helping people here at KTC.
We could vote on it, or even not have a vote.
Just let people throw out a nomination, to give props to certain members.
Maybe one nomination per member.
It'd be nice to see Samrs or FLLip or whoever, get some major love.
I knew I liked your crusty ass for some reason, and I believe you just hit on it.....
That is likely the best thing I've come across on KTC, save for KTC itself. While it would take some additional management to do correctly, I'd think that there could be a poll put up on a yearly basis, say, right at New Year's, to get the members of KTC to vote on who they feel should be recognized for helping stabilize and support the most quits. Nominations could be made the month of December, with the polls opening right at the first of the year, and the final tally concluded by the end of January.
We could even announce the winner on February 14th (show some love to the winner!!!)
I, for one, voice my support of this initiative....
(and just FYSA, I already think FLLip is the BOMB!!!) :wub:
Good idea, I am in favor.
I nominate Broccoli-saurus
That is a great nomination Casus!!!!!
FLLip. Definitely. She's da bomb.
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Hi everyone,
IÂ’m not good with forum communities so if this isnÂ’t the right place to post I apologize. IÂ’m wondering if anyone else has had a similar experience and what the end result was once you quit. I have been feeling tender on the outside of where the dip sits, like on my face. Just tender to touch, not exactly painful. I also get random pains in the same area, they are gone as fast as they come and thereÂ’s no time frame to it. I am also tender on the inside where the dip sits, but IÂ’ve felt that before and it always went away. Has anyone experienced this and did it go away after quitting? I am saying today is it, IÂ’m done, and I hope I can stick to it. IÂ’m 27 and have been dipping since I was 21. Any advice on how to stick to quitting would be appreciated. I have a lot of time on my hands as I donÂ’t work to stay home with my daughter so itÂ’s hard to occupy myself and town is too far to get out of the house for a distraction. I also have a severe anxiety disorder (postpartum) and if itÂ’s been too long between dipping I can feel my anxiety peak. I am under the care of a doctor for that but IÂ’m not sure what they could advise with this.
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Hi everyone,
IÂ’m not good with forum communities so if this isnÂ’t the right place to post I apologize. IÂ’m wondering if anyone else has had a similar experience and what the end result was once you quit. I have been feeling tender on the outside of where the dip sits, like on my face. Just tender to touch, not exactly painful. I also get random pains in the same area, they are gone as fast as they come and thereÂ’s no time frame to it. I am also tender on the inside where the dip sits, but IÂ’ve felt that before and it always went away. Has anyone experienced this and did it go away after quitting? I am saying today is it, IÂ’m done, and I hope I can stick to it. IÂ’m 27 and have been dipping since I was 21. Any advice on how to stick to quitting would be appreciated. I have a lot of time on my hands as I donÂ’t work to stay home with my daughter so itÂ’s hard to occupy myself and town is too far to get out of the house for a distraction. I also have a severe anxiety disorder (postpartum) and if itÂ’s been too long between dipping I can feel my anxiety peak. I am under the care of a doctor for that but IÂ’m not sure what they could advise with this.
GD - I'm going to send you a PM (private message) with a couple of links. tl;dr version - everybody's quit is different, but they all seem to rhyme. I've had tender spots on my face off and on and periods of pain like you describe early on in my quit. Nicotine can be a mild analgesic, so your dipping may have been covering over some minor pains that you're experiencing now as you heal.
As for advice on how to stick to quitting... here's a great start: Here's How You Quit... Ball Is In Your Court Now (https://www.killthecan.org/heres-how-you-quit-ball-is-in-your-court-now/). That describes how things work here at KTC.
Your next step is to post roll in the February quit group (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30377718/). Roll is a promise to us - and to yourself - that you won't use nicotine for a day. Quitting forever is hard, and the thought of it can be scary; quitting for one day is a lot more manageable... and if you can quit one day at at time, those days start adding up.
Glad to have you here. Post roll, get involved in your group, and get some support. This place is amazing - you won't regret it.
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Hi everyone,
IÂ’m not good with forum communities so if this isnÂ’t the right place to post I apologize. IÂ’m wondering if anyone else has had a similar experience and what the end result was once you quit. I have been feeling tender on the outside of where the dip sits, like on my face. Just tender to touch, not exactly painful. I also get random pains in the same area, they are gone as fast as they come and thereÂ’s no time frame to it. I am also tender on the inside where the dip sits, but IÂ’ve felt that before and it always went away. Has anyone experienced this and did it go away after quitting? I am saying today is it, IÂ’m done, and I hope I can stick to it. IÂ’m 27 and have been dipping since I was 21. Any advice on how to stick to quitting would be appreciated. I have a lot of time on my hands as I donÂ’t work to stay home with my daughter so itÂ’s hard to occupy myself and town is too far to get out of the house for a distraction. I also have a severe anxiety disorder (postpartum) and if itÂ’s been too long between dipping I can feel my anxiety peak. I am under the care of a doctor for that but IÂ’m not sure what they could advise with this.
GD - I'm going to send you a PM (private message) with a couple of links. tl;dr version - everybody's quit is different, but they all seem to rhyme. I've had tender spots on my face off and on and periods of pain like you describe early on in my quit. Nicotine can be a mild analgesic, so your dipping may have been covering over some minor pains that you're experiencing now as you heal.
As for advice on how to stick to quitting... here's a great start: Here's How You Quit... Ball Is In Your Court Now (https://www.killthecan.org/heres-how-you-quit-ball-is-in-your-court-now/). That describes how things work here at KTC.
Your next step is to post roll in the February quit group (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30377718/). Roll is a promise to us - and to yourself - that you won't use nicotine for a day. Quitting forever is hard, and the thought of it can be scary; quitting for one day is a lot more manageable... and if you can quit one day at at time, those days start adding up.
Glad to have you here. Post roll, get involved in your group, and get some support. This place is amazing - you won't regret it.
Samrs is absolutely right. Today is the day that you can change your life forever. Throw away your tin or flush the dip down the toilet.
Go post roll in your quit group as a day 1. I started dipping at the age of 17. I dipped for 10 years. Today is my day 344 of being quit. I have gotten this far with a little will power, the support of this site, and posting roll 1 day at a time! I had many unsuccessful quit attempts until I found Ktc. The system here works, if you stick it out and par take in it!
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Alright, I got me a hairbrained idea...
What do you guys think about crowning a member of KTC as a yearly "Quit Ambassador"?
You know, for the member that goes above and beyond helping people here at KTC.
We could vote on it, or even not have a vote.
Just let people throw out a nomination, to give props to certain members.
Maybe one nomination per member.
It'd be nice to see Samrs or FLLip or whoever, get some major love.
I knew I liked your crusty ass for some reason, and I believe you just hit on it.....
That is likely the best thing I've come across on KTC, save for KTC itself. While it would take some additional management to do correctly, I'd think that there could be a poll put up on a yearly basis, say, right at New Year's, to get the members of KTC to vote on who they feel should be recognized for helping stabilize and support the most quits. Nominations could be made the month of December, with the polls opening right at the first of the year, and the final tally concluded by the end of January.
We could even announce the winner on February 14th (show some love to the winner!!!)
I, for one, voice my support of this initiative....
(and just FYSA, I already think FLLip is the BOMB!!!) :wub:
Good idea, I am in favor.
I nominate Broccoli-saurus
That is a great nomination Casus!!!!!
FLLip. Definitely. She's da bomb.
I would nominate Samrs...
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Hi everyone,
IÂ’m not good with forum communities so if this isnÂ’t the right place to post I apologize. IÂ’m wondering if anyone else has had a similar experience and what the end result was once you quit. I have been feeling tender on the outside of where the dip sits, like on my face. Just tender to touch, not exactly painful. I also get random pains in the same area, they are gone as fast as they come and thereÂ’s no time frame to it. I am also tender on the inside where the dip sits, but IÂ’ve felt that before and it always went away. Has anyone experienced this and did it go away after quitting? I am saying today is it, IÂ’m done, and I hope I can stick to it. IÂ’m 27 and have been dipping since I was 21. Any advice on how to stick to quitting would be appreciated. I have a lot of time on my hands as I donÂ’t work to stay home with my daughter so itÂ’s hard to occupy myself and town is too far to get out of the house for a distraction. I also have a severe anxiety disorder (postpartum) and if itÂ’s been too long between dipping I can feel my anxiety peak. I am under the care of a doctor for that but IÂ’m not sure what they could advise with this.
GD - I'm going to send you a PM (private message) with a couple of links. tl;dr version - everybody's quit is different, but they all seem to rhyme. I've had tender spots on my face off and on and periods of pain like you describe early on in my quit. Nicotine can be a mild analgesic, so your dipping may have been covering over some minor pains that you're experiencing now as you heal.
As for advice on how to stick to quitting... here's a great start: Here's How You Quit... Ball Is In Your Court Now (https://www.killthecan.org/heres-how-you-quit-ball-is-in-your-court-now/). That describes how things work here at KTC.
Your next step is to post roll in the February quit group (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30377718/). Roll is a promise to us - and to yourself - that you won't use nicotine for a day. Quitting forever is hard, and the thought of it can be scary; quitting for one day is a lot more manageable... and if you can quit one day at at time, those days start adding up.
Glad to have you here. Post roll, get involved in your group, and get some support. This place is amazing - you won't regret it.
Samrs is absolutely right. Today is the day that you can change your life forever. Throw away your tin or flush the dip down the toilet.
Go post roll in your quit group as a day 1. I started dipping at the age of 17. I dipped for 10 years. Today is my day 344 of being quit. I have gotten this far with a little will power, the support of this site, and posting roll 1 day at a time! I had many unsuccessful quit attempts until I found Ktc. The system here works, if you stick it out and par take in it!
Hey Girldipper,
I dipped Kodiak Long Cut for 17 years, and found my way to this site while googling symptoms of dip withdrawal, because the fog was heavy early on. I am now on day 82, which is about 72 days longer than my longest quit attempt. I too am not great with boards like this, and was very hesitant early on to open up and even share any contact info. Once you get on and navigate the site and the process a little, you will begin to see how it all works and how it helps.
The power of conversation, accountability, sharing wins and losses, and involvement with people who understand what you are going through has been the biggest help for my quit. I hope you take the advice being provided, because if I can do it, you can do it too.
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In case you don't take a look at the calendar at the bottom of the site often (you should, there's some really cool stuff and BIG quit numbers down there) KillTheCan.org will celebrate our 11th anniversary on Monday!
https://www.killthecan.org/11-years-of- ... o-for-ktc/ (https://www.killthecan.org/11-years-of-freedom-from-tobacco-for-ktc/)
As we always do, we've opened up a SITE WIDE roll call to be open on that day only. Please stop by on Monday to post roll to help us celebrate.
topic/30400956/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30400956/)
Proud to be quit with you all today.
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In case you don't take a look at the calendar at the bottom of the site often (you should, there's some really cool stuff and BIG quit numbers down there) KillTheCan.org will celebrate our 11th anniversary on Monday!
https://www.killthecan.org/11-years-of- ... o-for-ktc/ (https://www.killthecan.org/11-years-of-freedom-from-tobacco-for-ktc/)
As we always do, we've opened up a SITE WIDE roll call to be open on that day only. Please stop by on Monday to post roll to help us celebrate.
topic/30400956/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30400956/)
Proud to be quit with you all today.
11 years of quittage is amazing. Damn glad to have been a part of it for the past 1,362 days.
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Hey guys, have any of you had bad-mild anxiety after you quit? I am going through some mild- full blown anxiety attacks I think. I plan on going to see a Dr this week and discuss my symptoms but wondering if there was any body who is/was having the same issues, thanks
Ben.
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Hey guys, have any of you had bad-mild anxiety after you quit? I am going through some mild- full blown anxiety attacks I think. I plan on going to see a Dr this week and discuss my symptoms but wondering if there was any body who is/was having the same issues, thanks
Ben.
Absolutely! Anxiety / stress is VERY common when quitting.
https://www.killthecan.org/anxiety-when ... th-stress/ (https://www.killthecan.org/anxiety-when-you-quit-dipping-dealing-with-stress/)
I took myself to the ER TWICE early in my quit cause I thought I was having a heart attack. Turns out it was 'just' anxiety.
Hang in there man. It gets better.
Chewie
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-26/b ... us/9194960 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-26/big-tobacco-forced-to-advertise-admissions-in-us/9194960)
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Alright, I got me a hairbrained idea...
What do you guys think about crowning a member of KTC as a yearly "Quit Ambassador"?
You know, for the member that goes above and beyond helping people here at KTC.
We could vote on it, or even not have a vote.
Just let people throw out a nomination, to give props to certain members.
Maybe one nomination per member.
It'd be nice to see Samrs or FLLip or whoever, get some major love.
I knew I liked your crusty ass for some reason, and I believe you just hit on it.....
That is likely the best thing I've come across on KTC, save for KTC itself. While it would take some additional management to do correctly, I'd think that there could be a poll put up on a yearly basis, say, right at New Year's, to get the members of KTC to vote on who they feel should be recognized for helping stabilize and support the most quits. Nominations could be made the month of December, with the polls opening right at the first of the year, and the final tally concluded by the end of January.
We could even announce the winner on February 14th (show some love to the winner!!!)
I, for one, voice my support of this initiative....
(and just FYSA, I already think FLLip is the BOMB!!!) :wub:
Just wanted to congratulate FLLip on being crowned....
"KTC 2017 Quit Ambassador of the Year"
Good job FLLip!!
Well deserved!!
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Alright, I got me a hairbrained idea...
What do you guys think about crowning a member of KTC as a yearly "Quit Ambassador"?
You know, for the member that goes above and beyond helping people here at KTC.
We could vote on it, or even not have a vote.
Just let people throw out a nomination, to give props to certain members.
Maybe one nomination per member.
It'd be nice to see Samrs or FLLip or whoever, get some major love.
I knew I liked your crusty ass for some reason, and I believe you just hit on it.....
That is likely the best thing I've come across on KTC, save for KTC itself. While it would take some additional management to do correctly, I'd think that there could be a poll put up on a yearly basis, say, right at New Year's, to get the members of KTC to vote on who they feel should be recognized for helping stabilize and support the most quits. Nominations could be made the month of December, with the polls opening right at the first of the year, and the final tally concluded by the end of January.
We could even announce the winner on February 14th (show some love to the winner!!!)
I, for one, voice my support of this initiative....
(and just FYSA, I already think FLLip is the BOMB!!!) :wub:
Just wanted to congratulate FLLip on being crowned....
"KTC 2017 Quit Ambassador of the Year"
Good job FLLip!!
Well deserved!!
Thank you! :wub: Now tell me about the salary and benefits package...?
Btw that nomination by 1 is humbling... lmfao
I nominate Leonidas Mr. Congeniality...and Samrs Homecoming King...So it is written...
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Had to order some nic free stuff from Amazon. Wife's been wanting to play tonsil hockey for the last 3 weeks so I need something to gross her out. It's just molasses, preservatives, and some harmless crap but it makes spit juice that I can spit or swallow....huh... Now there's a thought... I've always been a spitter.. Now I can be a swallower lmfao
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Had to order some nic free stuff from Amazon. Wife's been wanting to play tonsil hockey for the last 3 weeks so I need something to gross her out. It's just molasses, preservatives, and some harmless crap but it makes spit juice that I can spit or swallow....huh... Now there's a thought... I've always been a spitter.. Now I can be a swallower lmfao
This shit tasted like hair and asshole. I'll just keep sticking softened up sugar free gum in there and needlessly spitting that juice out. It actually works pretty well top psych yourself.
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Had to order some nic free stuff from Amazon. Wife's been wanting to play tonsil hockey for the last 3 weeks so I need something to gross her out. It's just molasses, preservatives, and some harmless crap but it makes spit juice that I can spit or swallow....huh... Now there's a thought... I've always been a spitter.. Now I can be a swallower lmfao
This shit tasted like hair and asshole. I'll just keep sticking softened up sugar free gum in there and needlessly spitting that juice out. It actually works pretty well top psych yourself.
That's... a rather vivid description.
Now I'm wondering why you were able to identify that flavor so exactly... roflmao
Honestly, though, there's a bunch of different stuff - there's a whole page of fakes (https://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/smokeless-alternatives/) on the main KTC site. I'm OK with Smokey Mountain. Jake's Mint Chew had some interesting flavors. Lots of folks seem to like the various Hooch flavors, too. If you're more of a pouch guy, there's Grinds (coffee-based) and Teaza (tea-based).
I was happy with anything that didn't taste horrible and filled the need to have something between cheek and gum. Peppered beef jerky really did the trick for me for a long time.
Just mentioning some potential tools in the toolbox, though. If you're happy with the gum, or whatever it is that's killing your cravings, stick with it.
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Had to order some nic free stuff from Amazon. Wife's been wanting to play tonsil hockey for the last 3 weeks so I need something to gross her out. It's just molasses, preservatives, and some harmless crap but it makes spit juice that I can spit or swallow....huh... Now there's a thought... I've always been a spitter.. Now I can be a swallower lmfao
This shit tasted like hair and asshole. I'll just keep sticking softened up sugar free gum in there and needlessly spitting that juice out. It actually works pretty well top psych yourself.
That's... a rather vivid description.
Now I'm wondering why you were able to identify that flavor so exactly... roflmao
Honestly, though, there's a bunch of different stuff - there's a whole page of fakes (https://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/smokeless-alternatives/) on the main KTC site. I'm OK with Smokey Mountain. Jake's Mint Chew had some interesting flavors. Lots of folks seem to like the various Hooch flavors, too. If you're more of a pouch guy, there's Grinds (coffee-based) and Teaza (tea-based).
I was happy with anything that didn't taste horrible and filled the need to have something between cheek and gum. Peppered beef jerky really did the trick for me for a long time.
Just mentioning some potential tools in the toolbox, though. If you're happy with the gum, or whatever it is that's killing your cravings, stick with it.
Smokey Mountain is what it was! Ill keep using it, hell, it was $22 for 5 cans lol. I don't like the idea of grinds.. I don't want an effect from the fake dip.. like I don't wanna feel the caffeine from the coffee/ tea and chance that prolonging the cravings, I guess? That's why I picked the Smokey mountain stuff to begin with.
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May 2017 lost a brother recently. Stop by and show them some love.
https://www.killthecan.org/rest-in-peac ... sthistime/ (https://www.killthecan.org/rest-in-peace-successthistime/)
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Hope all is well... I'm going to give all my willpower and try to quit this stuff. Today, of all days, should be a good day to quit. I have no idea how busy these forums are but I felt the need to put my hopes down somewhere... I thought it might give me that little extra bit of motivation to get me over the hump and really quit. I threw away any cans I had laying around, and I made a little calendar going though the end of the month so I can look forward to crossing out each day Im clear of this disgusting stuff. If any of you have tips I would love to hear them. Thanks for this resource!
Quit - I recommend you read Here's How You Quit... Ball Is In Your Court Now (https://www.killthecan.org/heres-how-you-quit-ball-is-in-your-court-now/). That gives you a rundown of what's up here at KTC. There is so, so much more here than just a couple of message boards.
Once you've got that, head on over to the [December]topic/30321153/]December (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30321153/) quit group[/url] and post roll. Roll is our way of promising each other that we will not have nicotine for the day. We post roll every day here. Our system is pretty simple. Wake up, post roll, and keep your word for the day. Then, the next day, do it all over again. If you make that promise early - first thing every morning - and commit to making it every day, no matter what, then your chances of staying quit will go up exponentially.
I really, really recommend getting plugged in over in December. These first few days are rough, and getting involved in your quit group will help immensely.
Samrs laid it out really well, but I'll reiterate that making the promise is much more impactful than simply crossing off days. Being accountable to others is more impactful than simply trying to use your own willpower. Beating this addiction will require everything you've got, but the tools here will make it more manageable.
It can be done though. I posted Day 499 today. You can get there too.
Hope to see you post up in December.
Ahhh good old will power! Your will power got you exactly where you are to day and that is an addict! You ever heard the old term "Self will run riot"? Drop the self will and jump in on the KTC way. We don't rely on "will power". We rely on each other to hold a daily promise to our selves and each other not to use just for today. Who gives a rats ass about tomorrow, lets make it through today first ok? When tomorrow morning gets here and I wake up, piss, Ill go post my promise yet again and you can be your ass with the help and promise of others (including yourself) here today, that I will be here for you and all the other BAQ's tomorrow!
Come on in and taste the kool aid. Today's flavor is QLAMF!
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You guys are awesome. IÂ’m still a newbie-3 days- but this site is exactly what IÂ’ve been needing. To everyone reading this, thankÂ’s for the support and for caring!
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You guys are awesome. IÂ’m still a newbie-3 days- but this site is exactly what IÂ’ve been needing. To everyone reading this, thankÂ’s for the support and for caring!
WELCOME!
As you can see, you're not alone. Let us know howe can help!
Chewie
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You guys are awesome. IÂ’m still a newbie-3 days- but this site is exactly what IÂ’ve been needing. To everyone reading this, thankÂ’s for the support and for caring!
WELCOME!
As you can see, you're not alone. Let us know howe can help!
Chewie
Sena, Welcome! I see you've joined and have been posting in March 2018. AWESOME! You've taken the first and many say the largest step. Lots of support here, lots of information. Be a leader in your group. Start exchanging numbers with others in your group. I just PM'd you mine. Hit me up ANYTIME.
at 860+ days quit here I can say I never would have made it this long without KTC. Nothing worked after 30 plus years. This place saved my life man. the day by day approach and the accountability of posting roll call is the key as far as Im concerned.
You can do this, make sure if you havent already to do up and intro, or tel lus a little about your quit here.
Merry Christmas, you have chosen the best present you could ever give yourself ! Hold on tight, it wont be easy in the beginning. But with all of us here supporting you, there's no way you wont be successful!