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Title: ES intro
Post by: ES on January 06, 2019, 04:53:58 PM
Hello, all. I'll dive right into the biography: 31 years old, Missouri, dipping roughly 9 years after 2 years smoking before that. My wife has never liked me dipping (cried when we were dating and she learned that I dipped, but still took me anyway) and all my family - save for one brother - don't even know that I dip. I heard of this site several years ago, but until now, have never made an honest decision to quit. Stopped for weeks here or there but never fully committed to staying quit. Many factors are driving me to quit: my dad died of pancreatic cancer 6 years ago (he didn't have any habits that contributed to this, just "luck of the draw" I guess...), I'll be a first-time dad later this year, my wife hates that I do it, I don't even like it, and I spend a ridiculous amount of $ on this stupid bullshit. I'm not tobacco-free yet, unfortunately. I'm planning my quit. Not sure the best way... when what I have runs out? Pick a date? I don't know... I'm getting into this forum to keep myself honest. I'll be telling my wife about joining here and asking her to support me through this, hopefully with understanding of the difficulties to come and not condemnation alone. I'll be grateful for any help from the quitters here. I'm sure I'll need it.
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: Palpatine on January 06, 2019, 07:27:37 PM
Hello, all. I'll dive right into the biography: 31 years old, Missouri, dipping roughly 9 years after 2 years smoking before that. My wife has never liked me dipping (cried when we were dating and she learned that I dipped, but still took me anyway) and all my family - save for one brother - don't even know that I dip. I heard of this site several years ago, but until now, have never made an honest decision to quit. Stopped for weeks here or there but never fully committed to staying quit. Many factors are driving me to quit: my dad died of pancreatic cancer 6 years ago (he didn't have any habits that contributed to this, just "luck of the draw" I guess...), I'll be a first-time dad later this year, my wife hates that I do it, I don't even like it, and I spend a ridiculous amount of $ on this stupid bullshit. I'm not tobacco-free yet, unfortunately. I'm planning my quit. Not sure the best way... when what I have runs out? Pick a date? I don't know... I'm getting into this forum to keep myself honest. I'll be telling my wife about joining here and asking her to support me through this, hopefully with understanding of the difficulties to come and not condemnation alone. I'll be grateful for any help from the quitters here. I'm sure I'll need it.

ES - I know the best way.  Do it now.  Just quit and post up your Day 1.  Don't pick something in the future.  We are all nicotine addicts and we know that we always have that "magical date" planned out.  My birthday, new years, when I get married, after my test, after my interview, after I switch jobs, my kid is born...the list goes on and on.  The best way to quit is dump what you have now and start it now.  Why wait?  What is the wait going to do for you?  Trust me...nothing other then prolong your withdrawal.  I quit 3 years ago TODAY!!!  Yup - this very day.  I was at work and had a dip in and at 1130AM I took it out and read a bit on here and then finally just said 'Day 1' in my April 2016 group.  Haven't stopped since.  1097 days in a row and I'm still quit!!!  Do it...it is freedom!  It is humbling!  It is complete surrender and freedom from the slavery that you have to a can each day.  I'm here to encourage and support you.  I can't make you do it...that is on you...but I can tell you that this program works.  Jump in...take a leap of faith and do it!  It is the BEST decision I have ever made in my life.  Why?  I can work out better than I have ever done in my life.  I don't have high blood pressure anymore.  I'm not constantly planning my day around when I need to get to the gas station to get my tin.  I'm saving lots of money after spending so much for 22 years on a dead plant in a can that kills people.  I'm more likely NOT to get cancer (it still is a chance but quitting has reduced that percentage).  I'm free and happier than I have ever been.  I enjoy life!  I don't have bad breath or crap stuck in my teeth.  I have much better sex because nicotine suppresses many things.  It is all POSITIVE things to quit.  I'm not controlled by a dead plant in a can!!!

Do it...dump it all out now.  Scary...sure...but I'm proof as are many others here.  We are all addicts.  There is no cure.  But there is hope to have freedom back in your life and more so there is more life to live without that vial poison.

Come on in!!!  I'll be the first one to support you and help you along this journey!
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: pky1520 on January 07, 2019, 07:42:02 AM
Hello, all. I'll dive right into the biography: 31 years old, Missouri, dipping roughly 9 years after 2 years smoking before that. My wife has never liked me dipping (cried when we were dating and she learned that I dipped, but still took me anyway) and all my family - save for one brother - don't even know that I dip. I heard of this site several years ago, but until now, have never made an honest decision to quit. Stopped for weeks here or there but never fully committed to staying quit. Many factors are driving me to quit: my dad died of pancreatic cancer 6 years ago (he didn't have any habits that contributed to this, just "luck of the draw" I guess...), I'll be a first-time dad later this year, my wife hates that I do it, I don't even like it, and I spend a ridiculous amount of $ on this stupid bullshit. I'm not tobacco-free yet, unfortunately. I'm planning my quit. Not sure the best way... when what I have runs out? Pick a date? I don't know... I'm getting into this forum to keep myself honest. I'll be telling my wife about joining here and asking her to support me through this, hopefully with understanding of the difficulties to come and not condemnation alone. I'll be grateful for any help from the quitters here. I'm sure I'll need it.

ES - I know the best way.  Do it now.  Just quit and post up your Day 1.  Don't pick something in the future.  We are all nicotine addicts and we know that we always have that "magical date" planned out.  My birthday, new years, when I get married, after my test, after my interview, after I switch jobs, my kid is born...the list goes on and on.  The best way to quit is dump what you have now and start it now.  Why wait?  What is the wait going to do for you?  Trust me...nothing other then prolong your withdrawal.  I quit 3 years ago TODAY!!!  Yup - this very day.  I was at work and had a dip in and at 1130AM I took it out and read a bit on here and then finally just said 'Day 1' in my April 2016 group.  Haven't stopped since.  1097 days in a row and I'm still quit!!!  Do it...it is freedom!  It is humbling!  It is complete surrender and freedom from the slavery that you have to a can each day.  I'm here to encourage and support you.  I can't make you do it...that is on you...but I can tell you that this program works.  Jump in...take a leap of faith and do it!  It is the BEST decision I have ever made in my life.  Why?  I can work out better than I have ever done in my life.  I don't have high blood pressure anymore.  I'm not constantly planning my day around when I need to get to the gas station to get my tin.  I'm saving lots of money after spending so much for 22 years on a dead plant in a can that kills people.  I'm more likely NOT to get cancer (it still is a chance but quitting has reduced that percentage).  I'm free and happier than I have ever been.  I enjoy life!  I don't have bad breath or crap stuck in my teeth.  I have much better sex because nicotine suppresses many things.  It is all POSITIVE things to quit.  I'm not controlled by a dead plant in a can!!!

Do it...dump it all out now.  Scary...sure...but I'm proof as are many others here.  We are all addicts.  There is no cure.  But there is hope to have freedom back in your life and more so there is more life to live without that vial poison.

Come on in!!!  I'll be the first one to support you and help you along this journey!
Yes quit now! What kind of planning do you really need to do?  All you’re really doing is no longer putting a dead plant in your mouth.  Just begin that process now.

Every dip you take only makes it harder and every day you put it off only gives you more time to chicken out.  If you’re on this site, you’re motivated and you have momentum.  Use that momentum to dump every single nicotine product in your possession and post a day one.

From there, start building contacts and accountability on this site.  There are endless quit tools scattered around here and all you have to do is pick them up and use them. 

It will never be easier than it is right now.  It is scary and it’s definitely going to be one of the hardest things you’ll have done in your life, but you will never regret quitting and finding the freedom on the other side. 

I’m on day 981 and I can promise you that this works, it’s worth it and that you can achieve it.
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: AppleJack on January 07, 2019, 08:51:02 AM
Try this one on...

Between now and your “quit date”... how do you know that the next dip you cram in your maw isn’t “the one” that turns everything from healthy into a cancerous nightmare?

Quit now, bro.
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: ES on January 07, 2019, 09:21:21 AM
Hello, all. I'll dive right into the biography: 31 years old, Missouri, dipping roughly 9 years after 2 years smoking before that. My wife has never liked me dipping (cried when we were dating and she learned that I dipped, but still took me anyway) and all my family - save for one brother - don't even know that I dip. I heard of this site several years ago, but until now, have never made an honest decision to quit. Stopped for weeks here or there but never fully committed to staying quit. Many factors are driving me to quit: my dad died of pancreatic cancer 6 years ago (he didn't have any habits that contributed to this, just "luck of the draw" I guess...), I'll be a first-time dad later this year, my wife hates that I do it, I don't even like it, and I spend a ridiculous amount of $ on this stupid bullshit. I'm not tobacco-free yet, unfortunately. I'm planning my quit. Not sure the best way... when what I have runs out? Pick a date? I don't know... I'm getting into this forum to keep myself honest. I'll be telling my wife about joining here and asking her to support me through this, hopefully with understanding of the difficulties to come and not condemnation alone. I'll be grateful for any help from the quitters here. I'm sure I'll need it.

ES - I know the best way.  Do it now.  Just quit and post up your Day 1.  Don't pick something in the future.  We are all nicotine addicts and we know that we always have that "magical date" planned out.  My birthday, new years, when I get married, after my test, after my interview, after I switch jobs, my kid is born...the list goes on and on.  The best way to quit is dump what you have now and start it now.  Why wait?  What is the wait going to do for you?  Trust me...nothing other then prolong your withdrawal.  I quit 3 years ago TODAY!!!  Yup - this very day.  I was at work and had a dip in and at 1130AM I took it out and read a bit on here and then finally just said 'Day 1' in my April 2016 group.  Haven't stopped since.  1097 days in a row and I'm still quit!!!  Do it...it is freedom!  It is humbling!  It is complete surrender and freedom from the slavery that you have to a can each day.  I'm here to encourage and support you.  I can't make you do it...that is on you...but I can tell you that this program works.  Jump in...take a leap of faith and do it!  It is the BEST decision I have ever made in my life.  Why?  I can work out better than I have ever done in my life.  I don't have high blood pressure anymore.  I'm not constantly planning my day around when I need to get to the gas station to get my tin.  I'm saving lots of money after spending so much for 22 years on a dead plant in a can that kills people.  I'm more likely NOT to get cancer (it still is a chance but quitting has reduced that percentage).  I'm free and happier than I have ever been.  I enjoy life!  I don't have bad breath or crap stuck in my teeth.  I have much better sex because nicotine suppresses many things.  It is all POSITIVE things to quit.  I'm not controlled by a dead plant in a can!!!

Do it...dump it all out now.  Scary...sure...but I'm proof as are many others here.  We are all addicts.  There is no cure.  But there is hope to have freedom back in your life and more so there is more life to live without that vial poison.

Come on in!!!  I'll be the first one to support you and help you along this journey!

Thanks for all the replies. I'm jumping in. I'm done. I'm on board. Fuck this can, it's not my life. I own my life. Pray for me brothers and sisters. I'll be praying for myself and everyone else on this site. Day 1 is on. Yesterday, I had my last dip. I will not submit to nicotine today.
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: Palpatine on January 07, 2019, 09:53:19 AM
Hello, all. I'll dive right into the biography: 31 years old, Missouri, dipping roughly 9 years after 2 years smoking before that. My wife has never liked me dipping (cried when we were dating and she learned that I dipped, but still took me anyway) and all my family - save for one brother - don't even know that I dip. I heard of this site several years ago, but until now, have never made an honest decision to quit. Stopped for weeks here or there but never fully committed to staying quit. Many factors are driving me to quit: my dad died of pancreatic cancer 6 years ago (he didn't have any habits that contributed to this, just "luck of the draw" I guess...), I'll be a first-time dad later this year, my wife hates that I do it, I don't even like it, and I spend a ridiculous amount of $ on this stupid bullshit. I'm not tobacco-free yet, unfortunately. I'm planning my quit. Not sure the best way... when what I have runs out? Pick a date? I don't know... I'm getting into this forum to keep myself honest. I'll be telling my wife about joining here and asking her to support me through this, hopefully with understanding of the difficulties to come and not condemnation alone. I'll be grateful for any help from the quitters here. I'm sure I'll need it.

ES - I know the best way.  Do it now.  Just quit and post up your Day 1.  Don't pick something in the future.  We are all nicotine addicts and we know that we always have that "magical date" planned out.  My birthday, new years, when I get married, after my test, after my interview, after I switch jobs, my kid is born...the list goes on and on.  The best way to quit is dump what you have now and start it now.  Why wait?  What is the wait going to do for you?  Trust me...nothing other then prolong your withdrawal.  I quit 3 years ago TODAY!!!  Yup - this very day.  I was at work and had a dip in and at 1130AM I took it out and read a bit on here and then finally just said 'Day 1' in my April 2016 group.  Haven't stopped since.  1097 days in a row and I'm still quit!!!  Do it...it is freedom!  It is humbling!  It is complete surrender and freedom from the slavery that you have to a can each day.  I'm here to encourage and support you.  I can't make you do it...that is on you...but I can tell you that this program works.  Jump in...take a leap of faith and do it!  It is the BEST decision I have ever made in my life.  Why?  I can work out better than I have ever done in my life.  I don't have high blood pressure anymore.  I'm not constantly planning my day around when I need to get to the gas station to get my tin.  I'm saving lots of money after spending so much for 22 years on a dead plant in a can that kills people.  I'm more likely NOT to get cancer (it still is a chance but quitting has reduced that percentage).  I'm free and happier than I have ever been.  I enjoy life!  I don't have bad breath or crap stuck in my teeth.  I have much better sex because nicotine suppresses many things.  It is all POSITIVE things to quit.  I'm not controlled by a dead plant in a can!!!

Do it...dump it all out now.  Scary...sure...but I'm proof as are many others here.  We are all addicts.  There is no cure.  But there is hope to have freedom back in your life and more so there is more life to live without that vial poison.

Come on in!!!  I'll be the first one to support you and help you along this journey!

Thanks for all the replies. I'm jumping in. I'm done. I'm on board. Fuck this can, it's not my life. I own my life. Pray for me brothers and sisters. I'll be praying for myself and everyone else on this site. Day 1 is on. Yesterday, I had my last dip. I will not submit to nicotine today.
YES!!!

Also, yesterday is your day 1. The last dip is day 1. Today is day 2 and just keep it up!
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: Falcon67 on January 07, 2019, 09:57:59 AM
Hello, all. I'll dive right into the biography: 31 years old, Missouri, dipping roughly 9 years after 2 years smoking before that. My wife has never liked me dipping (cried when we were dating and she learned that I dipped, but still took me anyway) and all my family - save for one brother - don't even know that I dip. I heard of this site several years ago, but until now, have never made an honest decision to quit. Stopped for weeks here or there but never fully committed to staying quit. Many factors are driving me to quit: my dad died of pancreatic cancer 6 years ago (he didn't have any habits that contributed to this, just "luck of the draw" I guess...), I'll be a first-time dad later this year, my wife hates that I do it, I don't even like it, and I spend a ridiculous amount of $ on this stupid bullshit. I'm not tobacco-free yet, unfortunately. I'm planning my quit. Not sure the best way... when what I have runs out? Pick a date? I don't know... I'm getting into this forum to keep myself honest. I'll be telling my wife about joining here and asking her to support me through this, hopefully with understanding of the difficulties to come and not condemnation alone. I'll be grateful for any help from the quitters here. I'm sure I'll need it.

ES - I know the best way.  Do it now.  Just quit and post up your Day 1.  Don't pick something in the future.  We are all nicotine addicts and we know that we always have that "magical date" planned out.  My birthday, new years, when I get married, after my test, after my interview, after I switch jobs, my kid is born...the list goes on and on.  The best way to quit is dump what you have now and start it now.  Why wait?  What is the wait going to do for you?  Trust me...nothing other then prolong your withdrawal.  I quit 3 years ago TODAY!!!  Yup - this very day.  I was at work and had a dip in and at 1130AM I took it out and read a bit on here and then finally just said 'Day 1' in my April 2016 group.  Haven't stopped since.  1097 days in a row and I'm still quit!!!  Do it...it is freedom!  It is humbling!  It is complete surrender and freedom from the slavery that you have to a can each day.  I'm here to encourage and support you.  I can't make you do it...that is on you...but I can tell you that this program works.  Jump in...take a leap of faith and do it!  It is the BEST decision I have ever made in my life.  Why?  I can work out better than I have ever done in my life.  I don't have high blood pressure anymore.  I'm not constantly planning my day around when I need to get to the gas station to get my tin.  I'm saving lots of money after spending so much for 22 years on a dead plant in a can that kills people.  I'm more likely NOT to get cancer (it still is a chance but quitting has reduced that percentage).  I'm free and happier than I have ever been.  I enjoy life!  I don't have bad breath or crap stuck in my teeth.  I have much better sex because nicotine suppresses many things.  It is all POSITIVE things to quit.  I'm not controlled by a dead plant in a can!!!

Do it...dump it all out now.  Scary...sure...but I'm proof as are many others here.  We are all addicts.  There is no cure.  But there is hope to have freedom back in your life and more so there is more life to live without that vial poison.

Come on in!!!  I'll be the first one to support you and help you along this journey!

Thanks for all the replies. I'm jumping in. I'm done. I'm on board. Fuck this can, it's not my life. I own my life. Pray for me brothers and sisters. I'll be praying for myself and everyone else on this site. Day 1 is on. Yesterday, I had my last dip. I will not submit to nicotine today.
YES!!!

Also, yesterday is your day 1. The last dip is day 1. Today is day 2 and just keep it up!
Saw you posted -- AWESOME!!  -- Do this First thing in the morning -- our mantra is Wake Up Piss Post (WUPP) -- and do it Every Damn Day (EDD)
First step done -- each day is just another step
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: RDB on January 07, 2019, 11:55:25 AM
Welcome, you've made the right decision.
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: shake on January 07, 2019, 04:05:26 PM
ES, I share your story almost identically. I am 31 years old, started dipping about 9 years ago (I don’t exactly remember when I started), my wife is in early pregnancy with our first child. You are not alone my friend. Check your inbox, I PM’d you my digits.
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: worktowin on January 07, 2019, 05:28:00 PM
Brother, you have got some legends of quit in your corner already.  I'm gonna just share a little thought for you to ponder...

This journey isn't for the weak.  It takes big ballz of steel (there are a few women on this site too - they have ballz too bro) to succeed at this, but it is possible.

I watched a story about a dude that climbed Everest.  He talked about the conditions, how he thought he was gonna die.  How it is brutal.  How he got discouraged.  Then, this giant smile... and he said "Fuck yeah I'd do it again!"

Have you seen Shawshank Redemption?  At the end, when Andy had spent all that time digging out of the prison with a little rock pick?  Then he had to crawl through the sewer? The darkest of days?

Then, he emerges at the end, arms outstretched... and FREE!  Brother, that is what is ahead.

I had a lot of people type stuff like this to me when I first started, and I thought it was all a bunch of ghey BS.  Total BS... Well, 2,206 days later, I'm here to tell you that it isn't.  You are doing something so fantastic for yourself, for your family, for your life, and for your health and freedom... that you can't even imagine.

Welcome aboard.  If I can help in any way, don't hesitate to shoot me a PM - my number is yours for the asking, and here we win as a team.

One more thing... when you get discouraged - I want you to think about the people that you know that have quit nicotine.  And I want you to think if you've ever... EVER... heard one of them say "damn I really wish I had never quit."  Because you haven't.  Once you are free of these chains, you want to own this freedom and wave it like that rainbow flag that Applejack waves around from his Vespa.  (OK, that last part was a joke.  He drives a Mini Cooper.)

Cheers, and welcome aboard sir.

worktowin

Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: FLLipOut on January 07, 2019, 06:47:45 PM
ES, welcome to KTC!  One of the best decisions of your life - congratulations!  And Work2Win is right, you have some serious Quit Legends in your corner already (including W2W himself!)

Not much to add except read everything you can about this addiction.  I found that once I understood what nicotine was and had done to me physically on a clinical level, it became a lot easier to beat.  This site has great information here:   https://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/ (https://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/) Then, drink the KTC Kool-Aid, make connections with as many people as you can here - especially in your month.  DIG A QUIT HOLE - make it impossible to turn back.  Don't give nic a glimmer of hope.  And take back your freedom one day at a time.  I promise you it gets better and better in time. 

I read your comment in April about the "timing" urges.  Those associations your brain made with dipping (driving, after meals, etc.) will be broken each time you don't give in to the cravings.  So every time you push through a crave, it is another link in the chain being destroyed!

If you need anything, pm me.
FLLipOut.  Day 900.

Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: BluManChew on January 08, 2019, 08:51:16 AM
ES -

Get pumped, my man!  Put a big ol' grin on your face.  You no longer have to worry about flecks of black lint in your teeth.   Smile, brother.  You are quit.

Breathe in,  you're quit now.  It's ok to be relieved. 

Buy in, drink the Kool Aid here. 

Be a man.  It's okay to pull your gal in a little closer.  She's waited this long, and deserves the man she married.

You don't need to be strong all the time.  We will shore you when your at your weakest.  Reinforcements are a pm, txt, or post away.

We'll rally around you.

BMC 458
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: ES on January 08, 2019, 09:26:37 AM
I can't even take the time to scroll through this and call each of you out by name, but you guys are FUCKING LEGIT. Total strangers dedicating themselves to at least take a second out of their day to tell me that they give a shit about my health. What a cool thing! I KNOW that if I was trying to do this on my own, I couldn't make it. I may make it a week, maybe even 10 weeks (I've been there before, but really just cuz the can was unavailable to me), but I'd cave because nobody was there to help. People telling me that nic is gross and unhealthy, it's like, "yeah, ya fuckin' tool. I'm not that one dude in the US that doesn't fucking get it..." but it doesn't truly help. What is already helping me is this site. You people. You Arbiters of Quit. You glorious strangers who want to help. God bless you. This boils down to ceasing our own slow suicides - I can think of no more honorable reason to tell someone you've never met that you give a fuck.

So, sorry for the language. If you don't like it, just know that I'm coming from a good place. Fucking love and appreciation, man.

Don't get mad at me for dropping a little scripture here: Ecclesiastes 4:9-12 "Two are better than one, because they have a good return for their labor: If either of them falls down, one can help the other up. But pity anyone who falls and has no one to help them up. Also, if two lie down together, they will keep warm. But how can one keep warm alone? Though one may be overpowered, two can defend themselves. A cord of three strands is not quickly broken." Just think about it, it applies to our addiction and many other parts of life. This scripture was part of what drew me back to KTC (which I'd heard of a few years back, never sacked up until now). I realized I cannot do it alone, but the help I need will come from you guys. The brothers and sisters out there who have more to say than, "just quit, it's gross."

Thank you, all. I get amped the fuck up when I get on here and read. Reading what you all have to say is way more powerful than any urge to destroy my body.
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: SRains918 on January 08, 2019, 10:28:47 AM
I can't even take the time to scroll through this and call each of you out by name, but you guys are FUCKING LEGIT. Total strangers dedicating themselves to at least take a second out of their day to tell me that they give a shit about my health. What a cool thing! I KNOW that if I was trying to do this on my own, I couldn't make it. I may make it a week, maybe even 10 weeks (I've been there before, but really just cuz the can was unavailable to me), but I'd cave because nobody was there to help. People telling me that nic is gross and unhealthy, it's like, "yeah, ya fuckin' tool. I'm not that one dude in the US that doesn't fucking get it..." but it doesn't truly help. What is already helping me is this site. You people. You Arbiters of Quit. You glorious strangers who want to help. God bless you. This boils down to ceasing our own slow suicides - I can think of no more honorable reason to tell someone you've never met that you give a fuck.

So, sorry for the language. If you don't like it, just know that I'm coming from a good place. Fucking love and appreciation, man.

Don't get mad at me for dropping a little scripture here: Ecclesiastes 4:9-12 "Two are better than one, because they have a good return for their labor: If either of them falls down, one can help the other up. But pity anyone who falls and has no one to help them up. Also, if two lie down together, they will keep warm. But how can one keep warm alone? Though one may be overpowered, two can defend themselves. A cord of three strands is not quickly broken." Just think about it, it applies to our addiction and many other parts of life. This scripture was part of what drew me back to KTC (which I'd heard of a few years back, never sacked up until now). I realized I cannot do it alone, but the help I need will come from you guys. The brothers and sisters out there who have more to say than, "just quit, it's gross."

Thank you, all. I get amped the fuck up when I get on here and read. Reading what you all have to say is way more powerful than any urge to destroy my body.
Everyone here gives back because a relatively few short days ago WE were all in the same position you're in now - trying to find a way to stop poisoning ourselves.

You're not going to offend anyone with your language, or at least not likely... Things get salty at times. You're not going to offend anyone with scripture quotes. You're not the first nor the last to use one.

This place is remarkably simple. This will be the hardest and easiest thing you've ever done, as long as you follow this simple process:

1) Wake up
2) Piss
3) Post your promise to be quit for today and today only
4) KEEP YOUR FUCKING WORD
5) Repeat daily

Easy, right? Obviously there's a little more to it than that, but if you buy in and drink the Kool-Aid and trade digits and reach out to fellow quitters and get to know people you'll find that you've acquired most of the tools you'll need along your quit journey. Become a student of addiction. Learn the recovery process. Know what to expect. These things will help you prepare for what's coming.

Make no mistake. It's going to SUCK at times. You CAN do this though. We know, because we're doing the same thing and can help you down the path.
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: AppleJack on January 08, 2019, 11:01:50 AM
I can't even take the time to scroll through this and call each of you out by name, but you guys are FUCKING LEGIT. Total strangers dedicating themselves to at least take a second out of their day to tell me that they give a shit about my health. What a cool thing! I KNOW that if I was trying to do this on my own, I couldn't make it. I may make it a week, maybe even 10 weeks (I've been there before, but really just cuz the can was unavailable to me), but I'd cave because nobody was there to help. People telling me that nic is gross and unhealthy, it's like, "yeah, ya fuckin' tool. I'm not that one dude in the US that doesn't fucking get it..." but it doesn't truly help. What is already helping me is this site. You people. You Arbiters of Quit. You glorious strangers who want to help. God bless you. This boils down to ceasing our own slow suicides - I can think of no more honorable reason to tell someone you've never met that you give a fuck.

So, sorry for the language. If you don't like it, just know that I'm coming from a good place. Fucking love and appreciation, man.

Don't get mad at me for dropping a little scripture here: Ecclesiastes 4:9-12 "Two are better than one, because they have a good return for their labor: If either of them falls down, one can help the other up. But pity anyone who falls and has no one to help them up. Also, if two lie down together, they will keep warm. But how can one keep warm alone? Though one may be overpowered, two can defend themselves. A cord of three strands is not quickly broken." Just think about it, it applies to our addiction and many other parts of life. This scripture was part of what drew me back to KTC (which I'd heard of a few years back, never sacked up until now). I realized I cannot do it alone, but the help I need will come from you guys. The brothers and sisters out there who have more to say than, "just quit, it's gross."

Thank you, all. I get amped the fuck up when I get on here and read. Reading what you all have to say is way more powerful than any urge to destroy my body.
I dig this, man.

You didn’t get all butt hurt and bitch out. Nice!

Your tone is the kind of tone that I need to hear... owning it and getting a little excited at the freedom waiting for you... not giving in to fear or romanticizing your fake relationship with that stupid shit we stuffed in our faces for years. Good on ya!

So, listen... you can do this. You really can. I chewed for 25 years and was downing 2 cans a day for the last 10 of that.
J. U. N. K. I. E.
I was hardcore.

But... I jumped in. All in. Owned this shit from the get go. Some days were a bitch... some days were fine. Always moving forward and leaving the old me further and further in the rear view.

Today I’m at 2,093 days but I do NOT forget where you are now. It keeps my freedom a thing of beauty. Like my bro Worktowin likes to say... I’m winning and I plan to keep on winning.

Get involved and stay involved.
Rock this...
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: ES on January 09, 2019, 01:13:49 PM
4 days quit. I've been talking to some of you and may have mentioned that my physical symptoms have been minimal, if not non-existent thus far.  This has been really surprising to me after nearly a decade of chewing, can a day for most of that. It's like I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop and wake up one day feeling like ass.

I feel guilty. I'm reading about the tough physical shit some guys and gals here are going through, and I feel like I should be feeling that. I deserve to be feeling that for what I've done to my body.

But at the same time - forgive me - it pushes me. Knowing that others here are having a rough go of it compared to what I'm experiencing so far motivates me. It motivates me by making me think, "hey, so-and-so is getting his ass kicked and is staying quit, so what the fuck is your excuse gonna be if you fuck this up?"

Then, today comes along. Day 4, been at work all week. Been good. Feel good. Nothing to whine about. I hit the gas station on my way to work. Wife comes along, driving separate cuz' we're both headed to work. I start the pump and run in to buy her donut and juice (preggers can have whatEVER she wants). Get to the counter to buy her things and a little OJ for myself, no problem. We walk out, I kiss her goodbye for the work day. Get to my truck. Wife pulls away in her car. I go back inside... Don't worry though, my friends, there will be NO CAVE - damn pump said "see cashier for receipt"...

THEN, I have lunch at work. Been bringing my lunch pretty good for a couple weeks, felt like a treat today, get a killer discount at Chipotle, so why not? This is where I decided I needed to post to my story. Not because it's some major achievement or a particularly rough day. I am making this post so that I don't forget:

I got the same bowl I always get. I felt like a color-blind dude wearing those fancy glasses, ya'll. The flavor of the food, the feel of the food on my tongue. It was all different. It seemed so much more intense, and I'm pretty sure the line cook didn't spike my fucking rice with anything. I kinda sat there just living in that moment. It was like my senses were re-awakened, and it was awesome.

Veteran quitters, folks in my quit group, I want you all to know that this site provides the head-space and the backup to do this. It's pretty wonderful, really.

Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: chris2alaska on January 09, 2019, 02:30:18 PM
4 days quit. I've been talking to some of you and may have mentioned that my physical symptoms have been minimal, if not non-existent thus far.  This has been really surprising to me after nearly a decade of chewing, can a day for most of that. It's like I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop and wake up one day feeling like ass.

I feel guilty. I'm reading about the tough physical shit some guys and gals here are going through, and I feel like I should be feeling that. I deserve to be feeling that for what I've done to my body.

But at the same time - forgive me - it pushes me. Knowing that others here are having a rough go of it compared to what I'm experiencing so far motivates me. It motivates me by making me think, "hey, so-and-so is getting his ass kicked and is staying quit, so what the fuck is your excuse gonna be if you fuck this up?"

Then, today comes along. Day 4, been at work all week. Been good. Feel good. Nothing to whine about. I hit the gas station on my way to work. Wife comes along, driving separate cuz' we're both headed to work. I start the pump and run in to buy her donut and juice (preggers can have whatEVER she wants). Get to the counter to buy her things and a little OJ for myself, no problem. We walk out, I kiss her goodbye for the work day. Get to my truck. Wife pulls away in her car. I go back inside... Don't worry though, my friends, there will be NO CAVE - damn pump said "see cashier for receipt"...

THEN, I have lunch at work. Been bringing my lunch pretty good for a couple weeks, felt like a treat today, get a killer discount at Chipotle, so why not? This is where I decided I needed to post to my story. Not because it's some major achievement or a particularly rough day. I am making this post so that I don't forget:

I got the same bowl I always get. I felt like a color-blind dude wearing those fancy glasses, ya'll. The flavor of the food, the feel of the food on my tongue. It was all different. It seemed so much more intense, and I'm pretty sure the line cook didn't spike my fucking rice with anything. I kinda sat there just living in that moment. It was like my senses were re-awakened, and it was awesome.

Veteran quitters, folks in my quit group, I want you all to know that this site provides the head-space and the backup to do this. It's pretty wonderful, really.

ES,

I was the same way.  I never experienced "The Fog", never had really bad cravings.  I, unfortunately , just ate a lot more and am now paying the price for that.  Don't feel guilty, use the fact that you feel better to motivate you to help other quitters are are not having such a great time of their quit. 

You are still quitting, and that , in and of itself, is no easy task.

Quit on Brother,

Chris
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: Athan on January 09, 2019, 04:54:45 PM
Love your enthusiasm ES.  Keep blogging it out. I hope you find it as therapeutic as I did.
Keep posting roll first thing every day; you're only as quit as yesterday. All of us are one stupid decision from posting day 1 again.
Never Again For Any Reason. Life will happen.  It doesn't stop because you chose to stop using and be clean.
People are still stupid and obnoxious, work is still work, it'll still rain on your beach vacation.  It's your resolve that counts, that and the life lines you build.
Proud to quit with you today
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: ES on January 12, 2019, 09:42:22 AM
Day 7: got my first week quit and feeling good! This is the longest I've ever been quit by my own active decision to do so. I've had stoppages; a week here, a week there, even over 2 months one time - but these stoppages were always because I either didn't have a can available to me or I didn't want to display my nasty compulsion to certain people that I was with.

So, yeah, I feel a certain pride and victory in 7 days that I stayed the course when I could have just stopped by the c-store and caved. And I owe a big thanks to this forum, the folks that have supported me online and those with whom I've exchanged numbers that text me regularly. This site will only work if you buy into it. Believe in accountability - even to folks you've just met and not even in person. Read the posts from vets, HOF quit groups - both the successes and the tragedies.

Anyway, thank you all! I'm happy to be on Day 7!
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: Athan on January 13, 2019, 01:44:13 PM
Congratulations on the week.  Success breeds success. Keep setting those goals up and knocking them down like dominoes.  Very much appreciate your interaction, energy, and passion in April '19.  Your home is what you make it.  You boys are off to a fine start.  Looking forward to forever one day at a time!
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: mayfly on January 13, 2019, 11:33:53 PM
Day 8 now!!!  Congrats!  You sir are a badass and one I will quit with EDD!!  Actually proud for you. 

Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: ES on January 14, 2019, 07:07:18 AM
Day 8 now!!!  Congrats!  You sir are a badass and one I will quit with EDD!!  Actually proud for you.

Thank you, sir! Excited to be quitting with folks like you! The support is extremely appreciated!
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: ES on January 17, 2019, 08:35:30 PM
Ending Day 12:

I'm beginning to wonder if the only symptom I've felt so far is that I've seemed to stay pretty tired. Coffee gets me going a bit in the morning, but without that evil OTHER stimulant, I seem to fade a bit as the day goes on. I think my body has just been used to a stimulant all the damn time. Haven't really felt like I'm in "the fog," just generally more tired. Which is probably good because I'm armed all the time and probably don't need to be slipping too hard, mentally - especially because I love my job, and don't reckon I'd love prison... (just a little light humor, don't get too spun up)

Other than that, I feel great! Over the course of six days I did chew a can of Smoky Mountain WG that my buddy gave me cuz he wasn't using it. But, the fact that it took me six days to get through one can of fake shit felt like a good comparison to my former can-a-day weakness. I rock some BBQ seeds now and then, maybe a few more pieces of candy that I usually don't eat, but my oral fixation - as it were - isn't seeming too bad at all. I chewed on a toothpick one day early on until I realized I'm, in fact, NOT a fucking beaver and chewing on a stick was actually making me a little nauseous...

Another shout out to the folks here that keep brothers and sisters accountable! To name a few, I want to personally thank Palpatine, chris2alaska, Addict Architect, Hilltop, EnuffSnuff, Josh, Keith0617, mayfly, Nick T, Shake, and BearNM for being regular fixtures in my day with encouraging texts and such. You're a bunch of stand up guys and I'm sure I wouldn't be almost 2 weeks quit without your conversation and time.

To the vets: ya'll are BAs, not only for throwin' up some serious consecutive quit #s but for taking the time to invite us newbies to dive into the wake of your success and follow.

To my fellow April Quitters: I'm always excited to post roll in the morning and see who has already been here and then see us stack up as the day goes on! I'm proud to quit with a group of BAMFs that seem to be in this shit to win!
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: Hilltop on January 17, 2019, 11:40:11 PM
Ending Day 12:

I'm beginning to wonder if the only symptom I've felt so far is that I've seemed to stay pretty tired. Coffee gets me going a bit in the morning, but without that evil OTHER stimulant, I seem to fade a bit as the day goes on. I think my body has just been used to a stimulant all the damn time. Haven't really felt like I'm in "the fog," just generally more tired. Which is probably good because I'm armed all the time and probably don't need to be slipping too hard, mentally - especially because I love my job, and don't reckon I'd love prison... (just a little light humor, don't get too spun up)

Other than that, I feel great! Over the course of six days I did chew a can of Smoky Mountain WG that my buddy gave me cuz he wasn't using it. But, the fact that it took me six days to get through one can of fake shit felt like a good comparison to my former can-a-day weakness. I rock some BBQ seeds now and then, maybe a few more pieces of candy that I usually don't eat, but my oral fixation - as it were - isn't seeming too bad at all. I chewed on a toothpick one day early on until I realized I'm, in fact, NOT a fucking beaver and chewing on a stick was actually making me a little nauseous...

Another shout out to the folks here that keep brothers and sisters accountable! To name a few, I want to personally thank Palpatine, chris2alaska, Addict Architect, Hilltop, EnuffSnuff, Josh, Keith0617, mayfly, Nick T, Shake, and BearNM for being regular fixtures in my day with encouraging texts and such. You're a bunch of stand up guys and I'm sure I wouldn't be almost 2 weeks quit without your conversation and time.

To the vets: ya'll are BAs, not only for throwin' up some serious consecutive quit #s but for taking the time to invite us newbies to dive into the wake of your success and follow.

To my fellow April Quitters: I'm always excited to post roll in the morning and see who has already been here and then see us stack up as the day goes on! I'm proud to quit with a group of BAMFs that seem to be in this shit to win!
You’re killing it brother!! Keep it going!
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: ES on January 24, 2019, 11:11:28 AM
I just realized: I'm not only quit of nicotine, I'm quit of A&W Root Beer...

I used to buy a bottle of A&W every now and then because the plastic bottle is brown and I felt that it would be less visually traumatic for my peers to see that bottle with unknown content, rather than a half-fucking-destroyed-because-it-can't-handle-the-back-pocket-of-my-jeans water bottle full of warm, dark, liquid shit-spit. My trusty A&W spitter: concealing my dark secret insofar as being relatively innocuous in-and-of itself (not like the third-of-a-can tediously stuffed into my lower lip wasn't a dead giveaway...). Hey, my theory was correct; several people over the years thanked me for using a dark spitter so it didn't look so gross in their presence. It was my pleasure to serve you, ya pussies.

I don't know why I thought about that just now. Sitting at my desk at work and I don't have to dodge a spitter while I carry on probably had something to do with it.

Also, I've been relishing driving my truck around and not dodging a spitter. Working in my home office - not dodging. In my workshop? Oh, not dodging. I DON'T HAVE A BOTTLE FULL OF MY OWN DAMN SPIT, MADE TO LOOK LIKE FUCKING DIARRHEA BY THE WAD OF LITERAL FUCKING ROTTEN GARBAGE ABSOLUTELY SMASHED INTO MY LIP BECAUSE I COULD ALWAYS FIT A LITTLE MORE!

All that said, I may just buy me a fucking A&FUCKING W Root Beer. Just so I can enjoy the tasty beverage at my own pace (not slamming it cuz it's time for a dip and I need the bottle). Then, when I've savored every last drop to my satisfaction, I will gently deposit the bottle into the first recycling receptacle available with a sly grin on my face while I whisper, my tone dripping with coy malice, "thanks for the drink, but I don't fucking need you anymore."

FREEEEEEDOOOOOOMMMMM!
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: chris2alaska on January 24, 2019, 11:55:10 AM
I just realized: I'm not only quit of nicotine, I'm quit of A&W Root Beer...

I used to buy a bottle of A&W every now and then because the plastic bottle is brown and I felt that it would be less visually traumatic for my peers to see that bottle with unknown content, rather than a half-fucking-destroyed-because-it-can't-handle-the-back-pocket-of-my-jeans water bottle full of warm, dark, liquid shit-spit. My trusty A&W spitter: concealing my dark secret insofar as being relatively innocuous in-and-of itself (not like the third-of-a-can tediously stuffed into my lower lip wasn't a dead giveaway...). Hey, my theory was correct; several people over the years thanked me for using a dark spitter so it didn't look so gross in their presence. It was my pleasure to serve you, ya pussies.

I don't know why I thought about that just now. Sitting at my desk at work and I don't have to dodge a spitter while I carry on probably had something to do with it.

Also, I've been relishing driving my truck around and not dodging a spitter. Working in my home office - not dodging. In my workshop? Oh, not dodging. I DON'T HAVE A BOTTLE FULL OF MY OWN DAMN SPIT, MADE TO LOOK LIKE FUCKING DIARRHEA BY THE WAD OF LITERAL FUCKING ROTTEN GARBAGE ABSOLUTELY SMASHED INTO MY LIP BECAUSE I COULD ALWAYS FIT A LITTLE MORE!

All that said, I may just buy me a fucking A&FUCKING W Root Beer. Just so I can enjoy the tasty beverage at my own pace (not slamming it cuz it's time for a dip and I need the bottle). Then, when I've savored every last drop to my satisfaction, I will gently deposit the bottle into the first recycling receptacle available with a sly grin on my face while I whisper, my tone dripping with coy malice, "thanks for the drink, but I don't fucking need you anymore."

FREEEEEEDOOOOOOMMMMM!

That was awesome!
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: ES on January 26, 2019, 06:39:38 PM
21 Days - 3 Weeks

My wife and I haven't talked much about my quit. Today I told her I was at a milestone. I laughed, told her we celebrate small milestones at the beginning to encourage the quit and stay excited about it - rather than focusing on "missing" our old friend (perceived), the can.

I also confided in her that I haven't felt like my quit has negatively affected me too much. I haven't felt overwhelming craving, I haven't had the nightmares, sleep has been pretty normal, I haven't felt angry or irritable. To my happy surprise, she confirmed that I have not seemed different, in a negative way. She actually said I've maybe been more pleasant! That might also have something to do with my excitement over her carrying our first child - I have tried to be a more caring husband and show her that I can be her rock while we go through this for the first time.

I feel really good about my quit. I like not feeling that judgment when talking to someone and you just know they're a bit grossed out by the fatty in your lip. I like not being a sludge factory, having to turn away a little to try to be "polite" about letting go a puddle of dip-spit or carrying around a spitter like a fucking security blanket. I like that my lip is starting to feel smooth again, not like a coral reef of shredded skin. I like that I don't have to wipe my fingers off on my pant leg or constantly have a supply of spare napkins or even access to a sink to take care of the foul-smelling and brown-staining hands after procuring a massive lipper like someone's gonna give me a trophy for it. I like not feeling the nagging guilt of sucking on a giant cat turd, all the while knowing what it's doing to my body and the health risks it is imposing on me. I like that, as long as I stay quit, I can look at myself in the mirror and say, "at least you're not continuing to make it worse."

Boys and girls, when I was 25, my dad died of cancer and he did nothing to increase his odds of such an illness. He was only 56 years old and had lived a healthy life. I know there are others here who have beat themselves up for taking part in this stupid addiction, knowing what it can do to us. I have beat the shit out of myself over it. Why did it take me this long to get quit? I don't know. But I'm here now. I can't regret not quitting sooner, that doesn't matter. I can't regret ever starting to begin with, what's done is done. I can look at MYSELF and FINALLY say, "no more."

With the help of all of you, here on this forum, and with a little prayer for strength, I can continue to live quit. I can remind myself constantly of how much more I have to gain by staying quit than I could ever PRETEND to gain by going back. Thanks for all the support, y'all. Nothing like being surrounded by some BAQs to keep a guy like me motivated.
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: EnuffSnuff on January 27, 2019, 10:18:57 PM
21 Days - 3 Weeks

My wife and I haven't talked much about my quit. Today I told her I was at a milestone. I laughed, told her we celebrate small milestones at the beginning to encourage the quit and stay excited about it - rather than focusing on "missing" our old friend (perceived), the can.

I also confided in her that I haven't felt like my quit has negatively affected me too much. I haven't felt overwhelming craving, I haven't had the nightmares, sleep has been pretty normal, I haven't felt angry or irritable. To my happy surprise, she confirmed that I have not seemed different, in a negative way. She actually said I've maybe been more pleasant! That might also have something to do with my excitement over her carrying our first child - I have tried to be a more caring husband and show her that I can be her rock while we go through this for the first time.

I feel really good about my quit. I like not feeling that judgment when talking to someone and you just know they're a bit grossed out by the fatty in your lip. I like not being a sludge factory, having to turn away a little to try to be "polite" about letting go a puddle of dip-spit or carrying around a spitter like a fucking security blanket. I like that my lip is starting to feel smooth again, not like a coral reef of shredded skin. I like that I don't have to wipe my fingers off on my pant leg or constantly have a supply of spare napkins or even access to a sink to take care of the foul-smelling and brown-staining hands after procuring a massive lipper like someone's gonna give me a trophy for it. I like not feeling the nagging guilt of sucking on a giant cat turd, all the while knowing what it's doing to my body and the health risks it is imposing on me. I like that, as long as I stay quit, I can look at myself in the mirror and say, "at least you're not continuing to make it worse."

Boys and girls, when I was 25, my dad died of cancer and he did nothing to increase his odds of such an illness. He was only 56 years old and had lived a healthy life. I know there are others here who have beat themselves up for taking part in this stupid addiction, knowing what it can do to us. I have beat the shit out of myself over it. Why did it take me this long to get quit? I don't know. But I'm here now. I can't regret not quitting sooner, that doesn't matter. I can't regret ever starting to begin with, what's done is done. I can look at MYSELF and FINALLY say, "no more."

With the help of all of you, here on this forum, and with a little prayer for strength, I can continue to live quit. I can remind myself constantly of how much more I have to gain by staying quit than I could ever PRETEND to gain by going back. Thanks for all the support, y'all. Nothing like being surrounded by some BAQs to keep a guy like me motivated.

Man you’re crushing the quit. You’re one of my 22 day BAQ’s so essentially we share a quit date. I just broke it to my wife this weekend I’m on a quit journey and she too was very proud of what I’ve accomplished. I ninja dipped around her for a long time, ashamed to let her know I was an addict. She is so supportive of me after I told her. She asks me every morning if I’ve posted roll. She’s gonna hold my addict ass accountable just like my quit brothers. ES, I’m proud of you man, and I’m proud to be quit with you. We got this...ODAAT
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: Hilltop on January 27, 2019, 10:29:34 PM
21 Days - 3 Weeks

My wife and I haven't talked much about my quit. Today I told her I was at a milestone. I laughed, told her we celebrate small milestones at the beginning to encourage the quit and stay excited about it - rather than focusing on "missing" our old friend (perceived), the can.

I also confided in her that I haven't felt like my quit has negatively affected me too much. I haven't felt overwhelming craving, I haven't had the nightmares, sleep has been pretty normal, I haven't felt angry or irritable. To my happy surprise, she confirmed that I have not seemed different, in a negative way. She actually said I've maybe been more pleasant! That might also have something to do with my excitement over her carrying our first child - I have tried to be a more caring husband and show her that I can be her rock while we go through this for the first time.

I feel really good about my quit. I like not feeling that judgment when talking to someone and you just know they're a bit grossed out by the fatty in your lip. I like not being a sludge factory, having to turn away a little to try to be "polite" about letting go a puddle of dip-spit or carrying around a spitter like a fucking security blanket. I like that my lip is starting to feel smooth again, not like a coral reef of shredded skin. I like that I don't have to wipe my fingers off on my pant leg or constantly have a supply of spare napkins or even access to a sink to take care of the foul-smelling and brown-staining hands after procuring a massive lipper like someone's gonna give me a trophy for it. I like not feeling the nagging guilt of sucking on a giant cat turd, all the while knowing what it's doing to my body and the health risks it is imposing on me. I like that, as long as I stay quit, I can look at myself in the mirror and say, "at least you're not continuing to make it worse."

Boys and girls, when I was 25, my dad died of cancer and he did nothing to increase his odds of such an illness. He was only 56 years old and had lived a healthy life. I know there are others here who have beat themselves up for taking part in this stupid addiction, knowing what it can do to us. I have beat the shit out of myself over it. Why did it take me this long to get quit? I don't know. But I'm here now. I can't regret not quitting sooner, that doesn't matter. I can't regret ever starting to begin with, what's done is done. I can look at MYSELF and FINALLY say, "no more."

With the help of all of you, here on this forum, and with a little prayer for strength, I can continue to live quit. I can remind myself constantly of how much more I have to gain by staying quit than I could ever PRETEND to gain by going back. Thanks for all the support, y'all. Nothing like being surrounded by some BAQs to keep a guy like me motivated.

Man you’re crushing the quit. You’re one of my 22 day BAQ’s so essentially we share a quit date. I just broke it to my wife this weekend I’m on a quit journey and she too was very proud of what I’ve accomplished. I ninja dipped around her for a long time, ashamed to let her know I was an addict. She is so supportive of me after I told her. She asks me every morning if I’ve posted roll. She’s gonna hold my addict ass accountable just like my quit brothers. ES, I’m proud of you man, and I’m proud to be quit with you. We got this...ODAAT
You guys are doing great, I’m going to be a broken record here and repeat again the best part of my quit; BURN THE BOATS!!
 No better way to commit than to destroy a back door exit. Accountability. One more time.......ACCOUNTABILITY!!
 ES, and EnuffSnuff, you guys are killing it. See ya at roll for one more day.
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: Rick Jr on January 28, 2019, 08:12:55 PM
21 Days - 3 Weeks

My wife and I haven't talked much about my quit. Today I told her I was at a milestone. I laughed, told her we celebrate small milestones at the beginning to encourage the quit and stay excited about it - rather than focusing on "missing" our old friend (perceived), the can.

I also confided in her that I haven't felt like my quit has negatively affected me too much. I haven't felt overwhelming craving, I haven't had the nightmares, sleep has been pretty normal, I haven't felt angry or irritable. To my happy surprise, she confirmed that I have not seemed different, in a negative way. She actually said I've maybe been more pleasant! That might also have something to do with my excitement over her carrying our first child - I have tried to be a more caring husband and show her that I can be her rock while we go through this for the first time.

I feel really good about my quit. I like not feeling that judgment when talking to someone and you just know they're a bit grossed out by the fatty in your lip. I like not being a sludge factory, having to turn away a little to try to be "polite" about letting go a puddle of dip-spit or carrying around a spitter like a fucking security blanket. I like that my lip is starting to feel smooth again, not like a coral reef of shredded skin. I like that I don't have to wipe my fingers off on my pant leg or constantly have a supply of spare napkins or even access to a sink to take care of the foul-smelling and brown-staining hands after procuring a massive lipper like someone's gonna give me a trophy for it. I like not feeling the nagging guilt of sucking on a giant cat turd, all the while knowing what it's doing to my body and the health risks it is imposing on me. I like that, as long as I stay quit, I can look at myself in the mirror and say, "at least you're not continuing to make it worse."

Boys and girls, when I was 25, my dad died of cancer and he did nothing to increase his odds of such an illness. He was only 56 years old and had lived a healthy life. I know there are others here who have beat themselves up for taking part in this stupid addiction, knowing what it can do to us. I have beat the shit out of myself over it. Why did it take me this long to get quit? I don't know. But I'm here now. I can't regret not quitting sooner, that doesn't matter. I can't regret ever starting to begin with, what's done is done. I can look at MYSELF and FINALLY say, "no more."

With the help of all of you, here on this forum, and with a little prayer for strength, I can continue to live quit. I can remind myself constantly of how much more I have to gain by staying quit than I could ever PRETEND to gain by going back. Thanks for all the support, y'all. Nothing like being surrounded by some BAQs to keep a guy like me motivated.

Yeah Buddy! Congrats on Many accounts! You have been kicking butt and taking names! Proud of you and Proud to quit with you today and EDD!  Keep it up!
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: ES on February 02, 2019, 01:11:27 PM
28 days - 4 weeks!

Just got done with my rotation of evening shifts at work. In short, I work 4 weeks of day shift, then 1 week of PMs with a Sat/Sun attached to that PMs week. My first PMs week since I started my forever quit. I'm not gonna lie, I was a bit apprehensive. Didn't know how the week would feel. I had to go out on some scenes where others had a lipper in... Late nights, dragging on and on... But I made it! I didn't struggle too hard with it, but I thought more about chewing this past week than I had the three before.

So glad to be quit, folks! The obvious health benefits (or, at least discontinuing the active fuckering up of my health), the saved $$$! All roads lead to quit these days! Moving on, ODAAT, while my brain rewires itself to not rely on the old standby - dipping just because it seemed like the thing to do at the time - is totally worth it. Working through thinking things like, "I used to put a dip in right about now..." or "that guy's throwing in a lipper, time to cycle up!" With the help of some BAQ's from KTC, I feel like I can keep on trucking, no prob!

Thanks to all!
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: EnuffSnuff on February 02, 2019, 10:28:44 PM
28 days - 4 weeks!

Just got done with my rotation of evening shifts at work. In short, I work 4 weeks of day shift, then 1 week of PMs with a Sat/Sun attached to that PMs week. My first PMs week since I started my forever quit. I'm not gonna lie, I was a bit apprehensive. Didn't know how the week would feel. I had to go out on some scenes where others had a lipper in... Late nights, dragging on and on... But I made it! I didn't struggle too hard with it, but I thought more about chewing this past week than I had the three before.

So glad to be quit, folks! The obvious health benefits (or, at least discontinuing the active fuckering up of my health), the saved $$$! All roads lead to quit these days! Moving on, ODAAT, while my brain rewires itself to not rely on the old standby - dipping just because it seemed like the thing to do at the time - is totally worth it. Working through thinking things like, "I used to put a dip in right about now..." or "that guy's throwing in a lipper, time to cycle up!" With the help of some BAQ's from KTC, I feel like I can keep on trucking, no prob!

Thanks to all!
You’re a quit bad ass ES! We made 4 weeks and we’re gonna keep going. I’m proud of you and what you’ve accomplished. You and Josh are my quit day brothers. We’re going to keep crushing this quit together. Proud to be part of April BFM’s and PTQWYT! Couldn’t have gone this far without you.
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: ES on February 05, 2019, 10:00:58 PM
Day 31

Rough day. Work stuff got to be a bit extra, as my job can tend to do. Strangely enough, I got a text from Hilltop, who also had a rough one. We chatted a bit via text and both got through the shitty day, no caves. It was one of those days where I didn't really have a true "craving" for a chew, but I did have a craving for the feeling of just putting in a lipper and how it kind of made you feel like you could shrug off the shit. Of course, it's all a mind fuck and it doesn't actually help to do that.

Anyway, another day that - in the end - was beatable. You know what, that's not the right way to say it... I'm not "beating" this one day at a time, I don't want every day to feel like an obstacle I have to overcome. Nicotine is an opponent that we all must fight to best in battle, sure, but that's not all there is in a day...

There's love - for my family, my wife, my child she is growing. There's joy - knowing that I'm dedicating my professional life to try to impact and help people. There's happiness - just enjoying the small stuff and letting little victories bless my life. There's God's grace that allows me to recognize these things and let the light destroy the darkness that tries to invade every moment.

There's KTC, where a bunch of rowdy fuckers get together, roast the fuck out of each other, tell each other the shit he/she doesn't want to hear sometimes, and pick up the phone every day to encourage a brother or sister that there's too much more to life than selfishly and stupidly bowing to a can. Thanks crew, proud to quit with you all every damn day.
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: ES on February 08, 2019, 02:49:52 PM
Day 34

Back on Day 32, I learned a couple things that really motivated me:

First, a coworker of mine that I'm about to transfer to and work with every day, has also quit. He is using or did use Chantix and is doing well. On my Day 24, I traded my truck in for an upgrade and this buddy of mine got the blessing from his wife to do the same. So he got himself his new used truck on Monday, which was also his birthday and a couple weeks into his quit. I felt good and happy for him and he even told me that my quit had motivated his own.

Also on Day 32, I went to the dentist. I knew they had taken a picture of the travesty that was my lower lip when I first started going to this dentist (which was the first time I got back into regular dental care in over 10 years - as in, not a single visit in that long). I asked the hygienist about the old pictures, she looked them up and said, "why don't I take a new one?" after I told her that I had quit chewing about a month ago. She takes the new picture, shows me and says, "it almost looks like nothing ever happened!" I know my gums will forever be a bit beat up - that doesn't fix itself and of course I've opened the door for illness by being a fucking idiot for so long - but the skin on my lip and cheeks?!? Brothers and sisters, it's like night and day! I was so excited and so was my wife when I showed her! I'll take that win all day long!

I get home from the dentist and think - I ought to send that picture to my best bud and show him the good my quit has done in such a short time. I text him the pic, we talk about it for a while. He asks me how long I've been quit. I tell him "32 days" and he tells me HE'S BEEN QUIT FOR 17! NO NICOTINE WHATSOEVER! He's not on KTC at this point, I'm not entirely sure he'd drink the Koolaid, but he's my brother and I couldn't be more proud of him. I'm trying to use the KTC Jedi mind tricks on him to support his quit, even if he doesn't wind up on the forum. That's secondary, as long as I can help him stay quit. He, too, told me that I "inspired" him to quit.

I can't take the credit for helping people that I care about drop the can and start kicking this addiction in the taint over and over again, EVERY DAMN DAY! I could not be trucking along without this forum and the people that make it work. I owe my day count to the help of many and I credit the support I've received for the improvements in the lives of others around me that I am so thrilled to be witnessing.
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: Erik17 on February 08, 2019, 03:30:38 PM
Day 34

Back on Day 32, I learned a couple things that really motivated me:

First, a coworker of mine that I'm about to transfer to and work with every day, has also quit. He is using or did use Chantix and is doing well. On my Day 24, I traded my truck in for an upgrade and this buddy of mine got the blessing from his wife to do the same. So he got himself his new used truck on Monday, which was also his birthday and a couple weeks into his quit. I felt good and happy for him and he even told me that my quit had motivated his own.

Also on Day 32, I went to the dentist. I knew they had taken a picture of the travesty that was my lower lip when I first started going to this dentist (which was the first time I got back into regular dental care in over 10 years - as in, not a single visit in that long). I asked the hygienist about the old pictures, she looked them up and said, "why don't I take a new one?" after I told her that I had quit chewing about a month ago. She takes the new picture, shows me and says, "it almost looks like nothing ever happened!" I know my gums will forever be a bit beat up - that doesn't fix itself and of course I've opened the door for illness by being a fucking idiot for so long - but the skin on my lip and cheeks?!? Brothers and sisters, it's like night and day! I was so excited and so was my wife when I showed her! I'll take that win all day long!

I get home from the dentist and think - I ought to send that picture to my best bud and show him the good my quit has done in such a short time. I text him the pic, we talk about it for a while. He asks me how long I've been quit. I tell him "32 days" and he tells me HE'S BEEN QUIT FOR 17! NO NICOTINE WHATSOEVER! He's not on KTC at this point, I'm not entirely sure he'd drink the Koolaid, but he's my brother and I couldn't be more proud of him. I'm trying to use the KTC Jedi mind tricks on him to support his quit, even if he doesn't wind up on the forum. That's secondary, as long as I can help him stay quit. He, too, told me that I "inspired" him to quit.

I can't take the credit for helping people that I care about drop the can and start kicking this addiction in the taint over and over again, EVERY DAMN DAY! I could not be trucking along without this forum and the people that make it work. I owe my day count to the help of many and I credit the support I've received for the improvements in the lives of others around me that I am so thrilled to be witnessing.

Congrats ES! Proud to stay quit with you today. I am on day 37 and recently mentioned to my wife it's about time for a dentist visit (one I have avoided for far too long). I am not looking forward to it, but hoping for some peace of mind after to strengthen my quit that much more.
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: ES on February 09, 2019, 02:09:38 PM
Day 35

One of my brothers in Law Enforcement took his life last night. He'd been struggling, I believe with a separation from his wife with whom he had children.

I don't bring this up here because I'm struggling, as it relates to my quit. I'm not going to cave over this. I'm not even tempted to go get a chew. Why would I be? Because it's stressful? Because a man that I knew and never guessed would be capable of this put his gun to his own head and made that decision? No. I wouldn't even think of caving over this. Because I want to live. Just like I think he wanted to. He didn't want to die - he wanted his pain to end and he felt there wasn't another way. I'm heartbroken over that.

I write this here, on a tobacco cessation forum, because it needs to be heard in every circle, told to as many people as possible. Please, I beg you, if you are ever unable to clear your head of whatever demons you may be facing, realize that you are not alone. Reach out. To anyone. To me. Call 1-800-SUICIDE and ask for help. Do anything you can to hold on just long enough for someone to see your struggle and help you.  If it's you, send me a PM here, literally anything it takes. Walk in to a business and ask someone to call 911, that you need to not be alone. There are people like me out there - on duty or off - who will sit with you and hold your hand until you find some help. People like this man, would have done that for anyone, and it tears me apart that he couldn't get help for himself.

God love all of you. For those of you on here that are Law Enforcement, Fire, military, medical workers, I beg you to hear this message: we live our lives to serve others, but don't forget that you're worthy of being helped, too. Don't hesitate if you're the one who needs someone else to help you sometimes.

I can't think of anything else to say. I have no wisdom that someone else hasn't already put into words - way better than I ever could. God bless you all, and remember that you matter.
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: Bug Guy on February 11, 2019, 09:54:25 PM
God bless you brother. I'm so sorry for your loss. It's never easy, especially given the circumstances in which you had a dear friend pass. I hope you have others near to you to help give you comfort in your time of mourning. Even still, you ever need to talk, please reach out. Im more than willing to lend an ear as im sure many other folks on here are too. But thank you for sharing. It is a very important message that everyone needs to be reminded of. It sucks that we do, but its the harsh reality. None of us are immune to it unfortunately. But like you said, please reach out, remember that you matter.
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: ES on February 24, 2019, 11:28:57 AM
50 Days

I'm feeling very good about my quit, folks. Affirmation from the dentist that some healing has been done - lasting damage aside, I'll take the win. Couple hundred bucks still in my pocket instead of in a spitter. Seem to have less acid reflux, less hacking and coughing before bed after a pre-sleep chew. Wife is happy that I am quit. But, more importantly, I'm happy. That's the part that has to matter first, as you all know. I quit for me, it just happens that there are other people that are happy about it, too. I think maybe the coolest part of my quit is that I dragged two close friends into the quit unintentionally. Those two guys aren't on KTC, but I still try to use the KTC formula of accountability and check in on them regularly.

All said, 50 days and feelin' good. Promising to deny the nic bitch again today, and may you all equally dis the bitch.

Thanks to the vets and quitters newer than myself, and massive thanks to my April comrades for the support thus far.
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: 69franx on February 25, 2019, 01:51:12 PM
ES, just read your entire intro today. Great inspiration to be found here. Keep kicking ass and thanx for posting
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: ES on February 28, 2019, 11:04:48 AM
This post is largely ignorable - I'm fiddling with my "signature" and seeing if it worked in the slightest. Happy Thursday, though, if you read this.
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: chris2alaska on February 28, 2019, 11:48:29 AM
This post is largely ignorable - I'm fiddling with my "signature" and seeing if it worked in the slightest. Happy Thursday, though, if you read this.

If you "fiddle" with it too much, you'll go blind roflmao roflmao roflmao roflmao
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: ES on March 01, 2019, 09:14:20 AM
I don't know if everyone else can see my intro thread when they search the Introductions page, but I cannot. Therefore, this is another test post to see if that fucker will show back up...

UPDATE: It worked!
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: ES on March 02, 2019, 01:53:43 PM
This post is largely ignorable - I'm fiddling with my "signature" and seeing if it worked in the slightest. Happy Thursday, though, if you read this.

In my learning of various formatting and coding tricks on this site, I finally came upon the realization that this post was never even needed to preview my signature line as I make changes. For those that don't know and stumble upon this post, if you click "Profile" you'll see the signature preview. Lol, oops...

I'm okay with it. I needed the embarrassment of getting caught "fiddling" by chris2alaska.
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: ES on March 02, 2019, 02:01:33 PM
56 Days - 8 Weeks

Cruising happily toward HOF and beyond with all my QUIT Brothers and Sisters!

No big updates today. A milestone reached, a new milestone takes its place in my crosshairs. There will always be the goal of another day, but I'll always stop and appreciate my small successes.

I'm only as quit as yesterday, I promise to stay quit today (as promised by daily roll posting), and I can worry about tomorrow after I make DAMN SURE to keep my word to y'all today.

PROUD TO QUIT WITH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU TODAY!!!
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: ES on March 06, 2019, 06:32:02 PM
Just here to pay respect to my zero earned today. 60 days.

Nic bitch, I've got a short message for you, for today: you can fuck right off, Deceiver. You don't reduce stress, I don't need you when I drive, I don't need you after I eat, I don't deserve your "lovely company" because I have a stressful career, because all you do is FUCK THINGS UP EVEN MORE!

Sincerely,
ES
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: mayfly on March 11, 2019, 11:57:05 PM
Just here to pay respect to my zero earned today. 60 days.

Nic bitch, I've got a short message for you, for today: you can fuck right off, Deceiver. You don't reduce stress, I don't need you when I drive, I don't need you after I eat, I don't deserve your "lovely company" because I have a stressful career, because all you do is FUCK THINGS UP EVEN MORE!

Sincerely,
ES

Ain't that the truth ES.  Nic only fucks everything up more.  One problem + nic= two problems.  Just wanted to drop in and say thanks for being a part of my quit.  You are funny as hell and proud to walk the same path as you my friend.  Oh, and April is indeed kicking serious ass, proud to be a FUGGIN MENACE OF QUIT!!!
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: kerbycl9 on March 18, 2019, 10:52:38 PM
Enjoyed reading your intro thread ES.  I've had it up on a tab for a month to read, but haven't gotten a chance to read it all the way through. I hate to hear that about your colleague.  There was an older gentlemen that I worked for in the summers while I was growing up that committed suicide a few weeks ago.  It's hard to comprehend. 

Proud to be quit with you.  Let me know if you ever need anything.
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: ES on March 19, 2019, 03:30:20 PM
73 Days - 10 Weeks and change

This past weekend was a little extra special as I had Friday off as well. Friday, I went to the local Menard's for a lumber run. Had to build some basement storage shelves for my wife. She wants to get things better organized and, in some cases, disposed of before the baby arrives around Labor Day. So, Friday I purchased what I'd need for the project. Got started with the cut list that day before my gal got home from work and we went out to dinner with a friend.

Saturday, as I celebrated day 70 - 10 weeks, I got to working in earnest. Ended up finishing one 8'long x 2'deep three-shelf storage unit pretty much up to the floor joists above, then kept it going with another 6'x2' unit right next to it. In order to leave room to have access around my furnace and other utilities, I wound up with 14' of storage shelves along my basement wall! I went through roughly 38 8' 2x4s and three 4'x8' sheets of 1/2" OSB, so a pretty simple project, really.

I felt like recording it here because I didn't need nicotine to focus on my task and get things done. I never did NEED it, but I used to choose it every time I was "doing something." What a stupid endeavor... I'd always have to stop, find my spitter that I kept putting down somewhere different every damn time, empty my mouth of sewage, and press on; then rinse and repeat, because I'd have a lipper in for HOURS while I did stuff like this. I want to take my moment to recognize the small victory that I had that day.

And, the next day, after church, I spent a good 2 hours vacuuming the house because my butthole dog has long, black hair that he sheds virtually NON-STOP. Another win: OCD vacuum Olympics without nicotine!

Anyway, just keeping with the program of documenting my quit journey. Soon enough myself and my April BMF'ers of Quit will start boarding the HOF train! When I earn that milestone, I'll specifically thank some folks who've been rocks for me. Until then, know that I appreciate you all!
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: ES on March 26, 2019, 09:34:30 AM
80 Days of Freedom.

That is all.
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: Broccoli-saurus on March 26, 2019, 10:29:09 PM
80 Days of Freedom.

That is all.

You are a rock star!   Thank you for being such an inspiration.   
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: ES on March 27, 2019, 01:27:31 PM
Day 81

This thought process was provoked by the July 2019 group trying to get answers out of Bsarno as to the three questions he encountered upon his return as a retread:

What Happened? This question should only ever be answered by a simple, "I ingested nicotine." Or, a variation of that remaining equally as simple, for that is, in fact, "what happened." The next question is for the "why," which every retread I've ever seen so far has failed to answer honestly...

Why did it happen? This question should only ever be answered by a simple, "I chose, in a moment, to ingest nicotine," (with a strong emphasis on the verb, "CHOSE," as caving is, ultimately, a choice). Or, a variation of that remaining equally as simple, for that is, in fact, "why it happened." Your cave is not because you lost a job, a relationship, a loved one, got stressed out, or whatever. Those things may have been issues you were going through but, in the end, every caver CHOSE to cave, as if those factors made it okay to turn to nicotine and turn their back on their word and the quitters here who supported them.

What are you going to do differently? This question is open for personal flourish, but should be an outline of a specific plan of action: what you will do daily, no matter how you feel; what you will do if you are challenged by temptation; what you will do when your first plan fails (contingency); et cetera, et cetera. "I'm gonna post roll" is insufficient, in and of itself. "I'm gonna trade digits" is insufficient, in and of itself. If you're answering these questions, it's because you've caved at least once AND you've returned to KTC, giving the impression that you want to quit. If that is truly the case, you should be willing, if not EXCITED in your new commitment, to make a proactive plan so that you DON'T FAIL YOURSELF AGAIN!

People want to come in here and act like they're treated unfairly when they cave and come back. 90-something % of this whole QUITTING NICOTINE thing is MENTAL and if you do not possess the MENTAL FORTITUDE to take your lashings when you've given up on your word, your promise you made LAST TIME, and you want to re-join the KTC ranks but act like you don' t own the responsibility that these questions force you to fess up (IF YOU ANSWER THEM HONESTLY, not offer up some excuses and bullshit), then what gives you the idea that anyone here owes you a damn thing? These questions are not designed to be the end of the discussion: YOU ARE GOING TO BE LAMBASTED NON-STOP FOR CAVING!!! YOU'RE ANSWERS WILL NEVER BE GOOD ENOUGH ON PAPER!!! If you're coming back as a retread; 1) answer the damn questions honestly and stop trying to deflect blame to all your "reasons" and "excuses," - unless some fuckin' ninja spy literally shoved your lip full of tobacco as a means of turture, YOU AND ONLY YOU are responsible for caving. 2) admit that you made the choice to cave - you may have had real problems going on, but a tin doesn't magically show up in your hand when life gets hard. 3) suck it up when KTC gives you some shit upon your return - start getting really involved and dedicated to your quit and the giving of shit will turn into giving of support.

I'm posting this in my own intro because I don't want this long of a post to muddy up any quit group's home forum. I am here every day to be held accountable so I never have to answer the questions. I'm here because I'm serious about my quit, and I don't expect I'll ever disrespect the men and women here who want to help other quitters while we all fight together by treating KTC as if I can go back to the tin and then return here for another "try." If you don't need this forum to stay quit, fine - and all the best to you. I don't know how I'll feel in the future, I don't have a crystal ball. But if, heaven forbid, I ever caved and came back to KTC with some lame excuses, lies, or bullshit about how my cave was because of this, that or the other and I don't admit my OWN BLAME, I fully expect someone to put my ass in check.
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: FINN Yooper on March 28, 2019, 09:57:00 AM
73 Days - 10 Weeks and change

This past weekend was a little extra special as I had Friday off as well. Friday, I went to the local Menard's for a lumber run. Had to build some basement storage shelves for my wife. She wants to get things better organized and, in some cases, disposed of before the baby arrives around Labor Day. So, Friday I purchased what I'd need for the project. Got started with the cut list that day before my gal got home from work and we went out to dinner with a friend.

Saturday, as I celebrated day 70 - 10 weeks, I got to working in earnest. Ended up finishing one 8'long x 2'deep three-shelf storage unit pretty much up to the floor joists above, then kept it going with another 6'x2' unit right next to it. In order to leave room to have access around my furnace and other utilities, I wound up with 14' of storage shelves along my basement wall! I went through roughly 38 8' 2x4s and three 4'x8' sheets of 1/2" OSB, so a pretty simple project, really.

I felt like recording it here because I didn't need nicotine to focus on my task and get things done. I never did NEED it, but I used to choose it every time I was "doing something." What a stupid endeavor... I'd always have to stop, find my spitter that I kept putting down somewhere different every damn time, empty my mouth of sewage, and press on; then rinse and repeat, because I'd have a lipper in for HOURS while I did stuff like this. I want to take my moment to recognize the small victory that I had that day.

And, the next day, after church, I spent a good 2 hours vacuuming the house because my butthole dog has long, black hair that he sheds virtually NON-STOP. Another win: OCD vacuum Olympics without nicotine!

Anyway, just keeping with the program of documenting my quit journey. Soon enough myself and my April BMF'ers of Quit will start boarding the HOF train! When I earn that milestone, I'll specifically thank some folks who've been rocks for me. Until then, know that I appreciate you all!


I was the same way with working on projects and having a dip for hours, and I know the sense of accomplishment you got by not having that dip during this project, congratulations!
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: EnuffSnuff on March 28, 2019, 11:15:43 PM
Day 81

This thought process was provoked by the July 2019 group trying to get answers out of Bsarno as to the three questions he encountered upon his return as a retread:

What Happened? This question should only ever be answered by a simple, "I ingested nicotine." Or, a variation of that remaining equally as simple, for that is, in fact, "what happened." The next question is for the "why," which every retread I've ever seen so far has failed to answer honestly...

Why did it happen? This question should only ever be answered by a simple, "I chose, in a moment, to ingest nicotine," (with a strong emphasis on the verb, "CHOSE," as caving is, ultimately, a choice). Or, a variation of that remaining equally as simple, for that is, in fact, "why it happened." Your cave is not because you lost a job, a relationship, a loved one, got stressed out, or whatever. Those things may have been issues you were going through but, in the end, every caver CHOSE to cave, as if those factors made it okay to turn to nicotine and turn their back on their word and the quitters here who supported them.

What are you going to do differently? This question is open for personal flourish, but should be an outline of a specific plan of action: what you will do daily, no matter how you feel; what you will do if you are challenged by temptation; what you will do when your first plan fails (contingency); et cetera, et cetera. "I'm gonna post roll" is insufficient, in and of itself. "I'm gonna trade digits" is insufficient, in and of itself. If you're answering these questions, it's because you've caved at least once AND you've returned to KTC, giving the impression that you want to quit. If that is truly the case, you should be willing, if not EXCITED in your new commitment, to make a proactive plan so that you DON'T FAIL YOURSELF AGAIN!

People want to come in here and act like they're treated unfairly when they cave and come back. 90-something % of this whole QUITTING NICOTINE thing is MENTAL and if you do not possess the MENTAL FORTITUDE to take your lashings when you've given up on your word, your promise you made LAST TIME, and you want to re-join the KTC ranks but act like you don' t own the responsibility that these questions force you to fess up (IF YOU ANSWER THEM HONESTLY, not offer up some excuses and bullshit), then what gives you the idea that anyone here owes you a damn thing? These questions are not designed to be the end of the discussion: YOU ARE GOING TO BE LAMBASTED NON-STOP FOR CAVING!!! YOU'RE ANSWERS WILL NEVER BE GOOD ENOUGH ON PAPER!!! If you're coming back as a retread; 1) answer the damn questions honestly and stop trying to deflect blame to all your "reasons" and "excuses," - unless some fuckin' ninja spy literally shoved your lip full of tobacco as a means of turture, YOU AND ONLY YOU are responsible for caving. 2) admit that you made the choice to cave - you may have had real problems going on, but a tin doesn't magically show up in your hand when life gets hard. 3) suck it up when KTC gives you some shit upon your return - start getting really involved and dedicated to your quit and the giving of shit will turn into giving of support.

I'm posting this in my own intro because I don't want this long of a post to muddy up any quit group's home forum. I am here every day to be held accountable so I never have to answer the questions. I'm here because I'm serious about my quit, and I don't expect I'll ever disrespect the men and women here who want to help other quitters while we all fight together by treating KTC as if I can go back to the tin and then return here for another "try." If you don't need this forum to stay quit, fine - and all the best to you. I don't know how I'll feel in the future, I don't have a crystal ball. But if, heaven forbid, I ever caved and came back to KTC with some lame excuses, lies, or bullshit about how my cave was because of this, that or the other and I don't admit my OWN BLAME, I fully expect someone to put my ass in check.

Damn ES, powerful stuff from my quit date buddy. Makes me contemplate my own situation and reinforces my quit.
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: ES on April 15, 2019, 01:48:49 PM
MY HOF SPEECH!!! (https://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?topic=14186.0)

'40' Day 100! '40'
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: Broccoli-saurus on April 15, 2019, 03:33:06 PM
Congrats Amigo!
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: Rick Jr on April 22, 2019, 09:27:02 PM
ES, Stopping in to say 1 Congrats, 2 your HOF Speech is badass and 3, Thank you. You were one of the first to PM me when I signed up for this gig. Your support of me and my Mayhem brothers is second to none. We shared a few stories and I appreciate everything you have done for me. I am very happy, proud, and honored of your Battle, your honesty and friendship! Keep kicking ass Brother! I look up to you!
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: ES on April 23, 2019, 08:07:23 AM
ES, Stopping in to say 1 Congrats, 2 your HOF Speech is badass and 3, Thank you. You were one of the first to PM me when I signed up for this gig. Your support of me and my Mayhem brothers is second to none. We shared a few stories and I appreciate everything you have done for me. I am very happy, proud, and honored of your Battle, your honesty and friendship! Keep kicking ass Brother! I look up to you!

Thanks, Rick. Those are very kind words! I'm glad you've found a home here and became a leader in your quit group so quickly! KTC needs guys like you! I wish I could be more engaged here more often, but the current circumstances of my life are such that I can only do so much or be so much to the KTC community. But, I'm only as quit as I am today, and guys like you help me stay that way, so thank YOU!
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: worktowin on April 24, 2019, 09:28:20 AM
ES, Stopping in to say 1 Congrats, 2 your HOF Speech is badass and 3, Thank you. You were one of the first to PM me when I signed up for this gig. Your support of me and my Mayhem brothers is second to none. We shared a few stories and I appreciate everything you have done for me. I am very happy, proud, and honored of your Battle, your honesty and friendship! Keep kicking ass Brother! I look up to you!

Thanks, Rick. Those are very kind words! I'm glad you've found a home here and became a leader in your quit group so quickly! KTC needs guys like you! I wish I could be more engaged here more often, but the current circumstances of my life are such that I can only do so much or be so much to the KTC community. But, I'm only as quit as I am today, and guys like you help me stay that way, so thank YOU!

Quitting as a team is the only way to roll, and both of you are bad ass examples of team success.  Honored to quit with you today.
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: chris2alaska on April 24, 2019, 11:26:14 AM
ES, Stopping in to say 1 Congrats, 2 your HOF Speech is badass and 3, Thank you. You were one of the first to PM me when I signed up for this gig. Your support of me and my Mayhem brothers is second to none. We shared a few stories and I appreciate everything you have done for me. I am very happy, proud, and honored of your Battle, your honesty and friendship! Keep kicking ass Brother! I look up to you!

Thanks, Rick. Those are very kind words! I'm glad you've found a home here and became a leader in your quit group so quickly! KTC needs guys like you! I wish I could be more engaged here more often, but the current circumstances of my life are such that I can only do so much or be so much to the KTC community. But, I'm only as quit as I am today, and guys like you help me stay that way, so thank YOU!

Quitting as a team is the only way to roll, and both of you are bad ass examples of team success.  Honored to quit with you today.

What WTW ^^^^^^^^^ said.

I'm damn proud of all you up and coming youngins.
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: ES on April 24, 2019, 02:51:40 PM
ES, Stopping in to say 1 Congrats, 2 your HOF Speech is badass and 3, Thank you. You were one of the first to PM me when I signed up for this gig. Your support of me and my Mayhem brothers is second to none. We shared a few stories and I appreciate everything you have done for me. I am very happy, proud, and honored of your Battle, your honesty and friendship! Keep kicking ass Brother! I look up to you!

Thanks, Rick. Those are very kind words! I'm glad you've found a home here and became a leader in your quit group so quickly! KTC needs guys like you! I wish I could be more engaged here more often, but the current circumstances of my life are such that I can only do so much or be so much to the KTC community. But, I'm only as quit as I am today, and guys like you help me stay that way, so thank YOU!

Quitting as a team is the only way to roll, and both of you are bad ass examples of team success.  Honored to quit with you today.

What WTW ^^^^^^^^^ said.

I'm damn proud of all you up and coming youngins.

Aw, shucks guys...
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: RAZD611 on April 25, 2019, 12:51:27 AM
ES, Stopping in to say 1 Congrats, 2 your HOF Speech is badass and 3, Thank you. You were one of the first to PM me when I signed up for this gig. Your support of me and my Mayhem brothers is second to none. We shared a few stories and I appreciate everything you have done for me. I am very happy, proud, and honored of your Battle, your honesty and friendship! Keep kicking ass Brother! I look up to you!

Thanks, Rick. Those are very kind words! I'm glad you've found a home here and became a leader in your quit group so quickly! KTC needs guys like you! I wish I could be more engaged here more often, but the current circumstances of my life are such that I can only do so much or be so much to the KTC community. But, I'm only as quit as I am today, and guys like you help me stay that way, so thank YOU!

Quitting as a team is the only way to roll, and both of you are bad ass examples of team success.  Honored to quit with you today.

What WTW ^^^^^^^^^ said.

I'm damn proud of all you up and coming youngins.

Aw, shucks guys...
Well Done. Pat yourself on the back. Now realize the fight is nowhere neer over.
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: ES on April 25, 2019, 09:52:13 AM
ES, Stopping in to say 1 Congrats, 2 your HOF Speech is badass and 3, Thank you. You were one of the first to PM me when I signed up for this gig. Your support of me and my Mayhem brothers is second to none. We shared a few stories and I appreciate everything you have done for me. I am very happy, proud, and honored of your Battle, your honesty and friendship! Keep kicking ass Brother! I look up to you!

Thanks, Rick. Those are very kind words! I'm glad you've found a home here and became a leader in your quit group so quickly! KTC needs guys like you! I wish I could be more engaged here more often, but the current circumstances of my life are such that I can only do so much or be so much to the KTC community. But, I'm only as quit as I am today, and guys like you help me stay that way, so thank YOU!

Quitting as a team is the only way to roll, and both of you are bad ass examples of team success.  Honored to quit with you today.

What WTW ^^^^^^^^^ said.

I'm damn proud of all you up and coming youngins.

Aw, shucks guys...
Well Done. Pat yourself on the back. Now realize the fight is nowhere neer over.

RAZD611,

From my HOF speech:
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This milestone feels great, but it is only Step 1. Each day is a battle, some more fierce than others, and I am only getting warmed up.

Only just getting started, my friend.
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: ES on May 29, 2019, 02:41:51 PM
144 Days - 1 gross of days - 12 dozen days - 20 Weeks+4 Days

Haven't posted in here in a while. Thought I'd drop a note for my ONE GROSS celebration. Still truckin' right a long. Admittedly, I've been a bit less involved in posting, aside from roll in the past two months. I obviously post in my home group, and most days am able to post up support in several other months. This has nothing to do with how I feel in my quit and everything to do with my job assignment. I just have less time than I did before and don't spend a lot of time on my computer at home (I primarily utilize KTC on my desktop because on mobile is a GIANT PAIN IN THE ASS).

Still quit. Still dig KTC. Still here.

Quit on, friends.
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: worktowin on May 29, 2019, 08:41:52 PM
144 Days - 1 gross of days - 12 dozen days - 20 Weeks+4 Days

Haven't posted in here in a while. Thought I'd drop a note for my ONE GROSS celebration. Still truckin' right a long. Admittedly, I've been a bit less involved in posting, aside from roll in the past two months. I obviously post in my home group, and most days am able to post up support in several other months. This has nothing to do with how I feel in my quit and everything to do with my job assignment. I just have less time than I did before and don't spend a lot of time on my computer at home (I primarily utilize KTC on my desktop because on mobile is a GIANT PAIN IN THE ASS).

Still quit. Still dig KTC. Still here.

Quit on, friends.

Congrats sir, hope the storms pass in our part of the world!!
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: ES on May 30, 2019, 08:32:19 AM
144 Days - 1 gross of days - 12 dozen days - 20 Weeks+4 Days

Haven't posted in here in a while. Thought I'd drop a note for my ONE GROSS celebration. Still truckin' right a long. Admittedly, I've been a bit less involved in posting, aside from roll in the past two months. I obviously post in my home group, and most days am able to post up support in several other months. This has nothing to do with how I feel in my quit and everything to do with my job assignment. I just have less time than I did before and don't spend a lot of time on my computer at home (I primarily utilize KTC on my desktop because on mobile is a GIANT PAIN IN THE ASS).

Still quit. Still dig KTC. Still here.

Quit on, friends.

Congrats sir, hope the storms pass in our part of the world!!

No kidding! Tuesday night I about strapped on one of my motorcycle helmets to sit in the basement, huddle my dogs, and wait for my house to come down on me! Luckily, my wife is away on business, so she was safe. Also luckily, the storms pretty much broke down to strong thunderstorms by the time they made it to the city and up north to me. Hope you and yours came through it all alright!
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: grizzlydepressed on May 30, 2019, 01:36:18 PM
Hello, all. I'll dive right into the biography: 31 years old, Missouri, dipping roughly 9 years after 2 years smoking before that. My wife has never liked me dipping (cried when we were dating and she learned that I dipped, but still took me anyway) and all my family - save for one brother - don't even know that I dip. I heard of this site several years ago, but until now, have never made an honest decision to quit. Stopped for weeks here or there but never fully committed to staying quit. Many factors are driving me to quit: my dad died of pancreatic cancer 6 years ago (he didn't have any habits that contributed to this, just "luck of the draw" I guess...), I'll be a first-time dad later this year, my wife hates that I do it, I don't even like it, and I spend a ridiculous amount of $ on this stupid bullshit. I'm not tobacco-free yet, unfortunately. I'm planning my quit. Not sure the best way... when what I have runs out? Pick a date? I don't know... I'm getting into this forum to keep myself honest. I'll be telling my wife about joining here and asking her to support me through this, hopefully with understanding of the difficulties to come and not condemnation alone. I'll be grateful for any help from the quitters here. I'm sure I'll need it.


yea, like a bunch of others said, fuck that, quit that bitch now, you know that shit ain't getting any easier when you run out. additionally, you're causing more stress by the thought of running out alone...............we all know what we've done to get a can when there's a tornado outside anyways, I'm on day 3 after 5 hard years straight of easily 2 cans a day. rip the bandaid off, quit that bitch now, join me in the suck......
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: ES on May 30, 2019, 03:34:34 PM
Hello, all. I'll dive right into the biography: 31 years old, Missouri, dipping roughly 9 years after 2 years smoking before that. My wife has never liked me dipping (cried when we were dating and she learned that I dipped, but still took me anyway) and all my family - save for one brother - don't even know that I dip. I heard of this site several years ago, but until now, have never made an honest decision to quit. Stopped for weeks here or there but never fully committed to staying quit. Many factors are driving me to quit: my dad died of pancreatic cancer 6 years ago (he didn't have any habits that contributed to this, just "luck of the draw" I guess...), I'll be a first-time dad later this year, my wife hates that I do it, I don't even like it, and I spend a ridiculous amount of $ on this stupid bullshit. I'm not tobacco-free yet, unfortunately. I'm planning my quit. Not sure the best way... when what I have runs out? Pick a date? I don't know... I'm getting into this forum to keep myself honest. I'll be telling my wife about joining here and asking her to support me through this, hopefully with understanding of the difficulties to come and not condemnation alone. I'll be grateful for any help from the quitters here. I'm sure I'll need it.


yea, like a bunch of others said, fuck that, quit that bitch now, you know that shit ain't getting any easier when you run out. additionally, you're causing more stress by the thought of running out alone...............we all know what we've done to get a can when there's a tornado outside anyways, I'm on day 3 after 5 hard years straight of easily 2 cans a day. rip the bandaid off, quit that bitch now, join me in the suck......

Hey, grizzlydepressed. I appreciate your enthusiasm this early in your quit, but thankfully I've already made that decision! I'm on day 145 of Freedom and can't believe how quickly the time has flown since my Day 1. Keep at it, don't give any room for the fog to make you forget the reasons you're quitting now!
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: grizzlydepressed on May 31, 2019, 11:27:27 AM
guess this was older than I thought ha, congrats on 145 man hell yea
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: ES on July 24, 2019, 09:18:02 PM
Day 200 - 07/24/2019

For a little 200 Day update, I'll post my responses to the questions posed by our conductors. I was NOT brief, so I'm sorry, but here they are:


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Sorry, fellas. I may have gotten a little long-winded...


1: What has been your biggest takeaway from being quit for 200 days?


•   I can do what I used to think may be impossible. But I haven’t been doing it alone. I’ve had a bunch of Quit Brothers and Sisters in my corner since my Day 1 on KTC. And, for moving within me and pushing me to post my Day 1, and for shepherding me through this and every other part of my life, I thank my Savior Jesus Christ. I’m pretty new to following Jesus, but I cannot deny the peace and strength that I’ve found in Him. I don’t believe it is really this simple, but I think that God used this challenge to show me that, with Him, I can overcome and that I had to stop idolizing a dead plant in a can and put my faith in Him.


2: Advice for any new quitters that are creeping on the KTC site?


•   I don’t know that I can really offer any “advice,” as it were. I can “advise” someone to quit. I can “advise” someone to give KTC a try. But that really doesn’t mean a thing if the reader isn’t ready to quit for him/herself. So, I guess my advice would be this: if you are even looking at KTC, then you must be at least thinking about quitting. Therefore, you are considering a choice: should I put in another dip, or should I kill the can? Do yourself a favor and give that decision some true introspection. Can you come up with a reason to keep dipping that IS NOT backed by an excuse (it relieves my stress, it makes me less of an asshole, etc.)? I, personally, couldn’t come up with one – my justifications were total bullshit. That, and my increasingly constant concern over all the BAD parts brought me to KTC and freedom from nicotine. So make the decision for you, and if you’re ready and you want to be rid of the mess that is nicotine and all the crap it brings into your life, then I suggest diving into KTC – and remember – you get from this program only as much as you put into it.


3: Have you done anything special with the thousands of dollars you’ve saved by not buying the devils tar?

•   Well, I can’t say that I’ve saved quite that much, but I’d estimate somewhere around a single thousand dollars in 200 days, which is still pretty awesome! I wouldn’t say that I’ve consciously done anything special with that money. As happy as I am to be saving that money, I haven’t focused that much on it. I’ve just been enjoying living my life without that nicotine crutch. I’ve learned that I don’t need it and that it is only a false promise against stress, exhaustion, and so on. Money couldn’t buy the true freedom I’m experiencing.

Thanks, Conductors. I Quit With You!
ES
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: ES on July 24, 2019, 09:27:18 PM
One more note for my 200 Day celebration:

My best friend quit shortly after I did, cold-turkey, just like we do here. I never could convince him to join up on KTC, but he and I have checked on each other regularly, employing much of the same attitude as we all find here on the forums. I'm happy to report that he is also still nicotine-free and going STRONG.

A co-worker buddy of mine also quit shortly after me. Also couldn't get him on KTC... He did great for about four months, and then - recently - with a crazy time through work and high stress of a bunch of murder trials (we're homicide detectives), he caved and returned to daily chewing.

I'm in a lull in my own KTC participation. I regret that I've been reduced to post-and-ghost status. I used to post in a lot of groups and did today (the first time I've been on my home computer in some time).

Anyway, I guess I'm just glad to be a part of this. It's not always useful to me; some days I feel annoyed by posting and just want to get on with it; but I've seen my buddy cave and I figure KTC is doing no harm and certainly has done much good for me.

Glad to hit another milestone in an infinite string of milestones just waiting to be hit. Also, my wife is really proud of me - which feels good of course. She told me last night that she often reflects on it and thinks, "you used to do this thing. Then you chose not to anymore, so you don't." She likes the simplicity that is underscored by determination and discipline. Sure sounds simpler than it is for us, eh friends?
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: ES on November 02, 2019, 09:02:39 PM
Day 301

Yesterday was my arrival on the 3rd floor.

Today is day 301.
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: FLLipOut on November 03, 2019, 10:48:14 AM
Day 301

Yesterday was my arrival on the 3rd floor.

Today is day 301.

Congrats ES!  'party' Proud to quit with you every day!!!
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: Keith0617 on November 03, 2019, 05:44:07 PM
Day 301

Yesterday was my arrival on the 3rd floor.

Today is day 301.

Congrats ES!  'party' Proud to quit with you every day!!!
Congrats @ES (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1763). stay loyal to your routine 
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: ES on September 09, 2020, 08:14:52 PM
Day 613.
Title: Re: ES intro
Post by: Keith0617 on September 09, 2020, 10:25:55 PM
Day 613.
Nice work ES