General Discussion - 2012

[Fire10257]

great for you. 35 years is a hell of a long time. great job being a quitter and taking your life back. we all have to start somewhere -- I'm thinking that most of us have half-assed it down this road before. keep quit! that cope (my poison for 12 years) is a nasty bitch.

keep it up.

[hooh8r1206]

Seven days without Copenhagen after 35 years of chewing this shit. I've quit a hundred times, but this time feels different. I'm a bit on the crazy side but I think I can finally get it done. I'm eating everything in site and just don't care. Anyway, glad to find a site where others appear to be suffering the same self induced malady.

Just take it one day at a time! If you've made it 7 days you can make it one more, and then one more... day after day! If you give in now you'll just have to do day one all over again!! Glad to have you here, this site is the difference for me this time around. Get in your group and start posting

[hooh8r1206]

Hey Guys, Ive got a question about tiredness or fatigue. Im at day 70 and it doesn't seem to matter how much sleep i get ive been feeling like shit. I work really screwed up hours which doesnt help any. It just seems ive got no energy. I dont feel sad at all but I've been told I may have some depression going on. Some days feel like day one off dip so ive just been trying to ride the roller coaster out and find what my new "normal" feels like. Any been there done that advice is welcomed! Thx
January Jackwagons kick ass and post names

[tarvman]

Seven days without Copenhagen after 35 years of chewing this shit. I've quit a hundred times, but this time feels different. I'm a bit on the crazy side but I think I can finally get it done. I'm eating everything in site and just don't care. Anyway, glad to find a site where others appear to be suffering the same self induced malady.

[chewie]

Thanks for the support of this site. I would like to ask, even though its probably already been asked, but will there be an iPhone/droid app? Can anyone set this up or have I just become that whiny ass bitch with the iPhone? Day26 also no sleep for 2 days 'zombie'

There isn't one... yet. But it's definitely on our radar screen.

[grizzlysnuffer]

Thanks for the support of this site. I would like to ask, even though its probably already been asked, but will there be an iPhone/droid app? Can anyone set this up or have I just become that whiny ass bitch with the iPhone? Day26 also no sleep for 2 days 'zombie'

[Mike_Land]

http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com ... zq3w%3D%3D�

I want to get this seen by some people.� Could be a great event to plan toward.

in missoula montana.

I'll be there sir... can't wait.

Let's talk about how I can help get KTC there. Are you planning a booth? i see there is a sponsorship for a Voyager at $2,500 and you get an exhibit booth, I may be able to be talked into that over a beer. :D

Can i restate - Many Beers.


Done Deal, just want a beer (many) lol

start to our new winking lizard Tour

I went to this summit a few years back when it was in OKCity. Very big event. Tons of info. A KTC booth would be righteous. Perhaps if the good Lord allows me to hang around I may head that way. I'll start my cookie jar travel money today. ;)

Cope... beers NEED to happen... soon.

Curtis - we had a great time when we went to Austin a few years back. http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/05/thou ... he-summit/

Whether we're there in an "official" capacity (booth) or not, it's on my personal calendar. Pisses me off that there is no representation of real former users there...

Greg,
I am going to send you a donation in the above stated amount in January, I will let you and the other admins decide how to spend it at the summit.

My Savings to date is $6,728.75 and that doesn't include the Rolaids for heartburn and the Cokes I bought for spit cups.

You are doing a good thing.

I believe in paying it forward. Carry on.

Dave

I would love to take part in this. I will volunteer to work the booth if we can get one set up. I can donate a little cash as well if needed. Who's going to take the lead with this? contact me via PM for any help.

Mike

[Copehater]

http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com ... zq3w%3D%3D�

I want to get this seen by some people.� Could be a great event to plan toward.

in missoula montana.

I'll be there sir... can't wait.

Let's talk about how I can help get KTC there. Are you planning a booth? i see there is a sponsorship for a Voyager at $2,500 and you get an exhibit booth, I may be able to be talked into that over a beer. :D

Can i restate - Many Beers.


Done Deal, just want a beer (many) lol

start to our new winking lizard Tour

I went to this summit a few years back when it was in OKCity. Very big event. Tons of info. A KTC booth would be righteous. Perhaps if the good Lord allows me to hang around I may head that way. I'll start my cookie jar travel money today. ;)

Cope... beers NEED to happen... soon.

Curtis - we had a great time when we went to Austin a few years back. http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/05/thou ... he-summit/

Whether we're there in an "official" capacity (booth) or not, it's on my personal calendar. Pisses me off that there is no representation of real former users there...

Greg,
I am going to send you a donation in the above stated amount in January, I will let you and the other admins decide how to spend it at the summit.

My Savings to date is $6,728.75 and that doesn't include the Rolaids for heartburn and the Cokes I bought for spit cups.

You are doing a good thing.

I believe in paying it forward. Carry on.

Dave

[chewie]

http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com ... zq3w%3D%3D�

I want to get this seen by some people.� Could be a great event to plan toward.

in missoula montana.

I'll be there sir... can't wait.

Let's talk about how I can help get KTC there. Are you planning a booth? i see there is a sponsorship for a Voyager at $2,500 and you get an exhibit booth, I may be able to be talked into that over a beer. :D

Can i restate - Many Beers.


Done Deal, just want a beer (many) lol

start to our new winking lizard Tour

I went to this summit a few years back when it was in OKCity. Very big event. Tons of info. A KTC booth would be righteous. Perhaps if the good Lord allows me to hang around I may head that way. I'll start my cookie jar travel money today. ;)

Cope... beers NEED to happen... soon.

Curtis - we had a great time when we went to Austin a few years back. http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/05/thou ... he-summit/

Whether we're there in an "official" capacity (booth) or not, it's on my personal calendar. Pisses me off that there is no representation of real former users there...

[outdoortexan]

http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com ... zq3w%3D%3D 

I want to get this seen by some people.  Could be a great event to plan toward.

in missoula montana.

I'll be there sir... can't wait.

Let's talk about how I can help get KTC there. Are you planning a booth? i see there is a sponsorship for a Voyager at $2,500 and you get an exhibit booth, I may be able to be talked into that over a beer. :D

Can i restate - Many Beers.


Done Deal, just want a beer (many) lol

start to our new winking lizard Tour

I went to this summit a few years back when it was in OKCity. Very big event. Tons of info. A KTC booth would be righteous. Perhaps if the good Lord allows me to hang around I may head that way. I'll start my cookie jar travel money today. ;)

[outdoortexan]

Good morning y'all. I know some of you know my story but some may not. Perhaps someone is stopping in this site and just thinking about quitting. I hope you make that choice and kill your can for good.

Seven years ago today I lay on a hospital bed at M.D. Anderson Cancer center in Houston. In the exact spot I had held my dip for so long they found a squamous cell carcinoma spot. I was told it was directly related to my dipping. That was near the end of September.

Now it was time to take care of it. My operation lasted some eleven hours. A large section of gum matter, three teeth and thirty seven lymphnodes were removed. My jawbone was shaved to half of it's thickness and a plate with screws added for reinforcement. A section of flesh was removed from my leg and now and forever resides in my mouth.

My recovery will never be complete as I have pain everyday from the surgery. When I wake in the mornings my neck has drawn tight and I have to stretch it. Somedays it refuses to loosen. If I hold my head a certain way for any length of time, it tightens. Being a welder I usually hold my head a certain way everyday. I will forever have this piece of leg in my mouth and no one who has had this "pleasure" will know what wonderful breath and taste you can have with leg in your mouth, especially when you wake in the morning.

I hope this is not to commercially for you, but in cas you haven't read my story or seen my pictures, got to my website and see what dipping did for me. If you are visiting here for the first time and merely considering quitting, please PLEASE do so. And don't forget to use every resource this site provides. I have been MIA in helping you guys and for that I apologize. I hope you all know I am willing to share with, talk with, any of you and would be deeply honored to help with your quit.

Take care, God bless and have a wonderful dip free remainder of your life.

[Copehater]

http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com ... zq3w%3D%3D 

I want to get this seen by some people.  Could be a great event to plan toward.

in missoula montana.

I'll be there sir... can't wait.

Let's talk about how I can help get KTC there. Are you planning a booth? i see there is a sponsorship for a Voyager at $2,500 and you get an exhibit booth, I may be able to be talked into that over a beer. :D

Can i restate - Many Beers.


Done Deal, just want a beer (many) lol

start to our new winking lizard Tour

[Copehater]

http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com ... zq3w%3D%3D 

I want to get this seen by some people.  Could be a great event to plan toward.

in missoula montana.

I'll be there sir... can't wait.

Let's talk about how I can help get KTC there. Are you planning a booth? i see there is a sponsorship for a Voyager at $2,500 and you get an exhibit booth, I may be able to be talked into that over a beer. :D

[Morgan1]

Random thought...

Day 187 and my quit seems to be going very smooth. Still some bumps, mainly when I tackle tasks I've never tackled dip free before but all in all in relation to "every day life", I find myself doing better and better.

As I drove for 4 hrs today I pondered why and came to the conclusion I am not using will power to quit anymore. In the early days will power was all I used. That's because you use will power when you think you are giving up something pleasurable.

Even though I knew that not chewing was the right move, I honestly believed I was giving something "good" up and it pissed me off and stressed me out...not being able to dip only added to this stress. It was a nightmare and a vicious cycle of frustration and only will power kept me quit.

I couldn't continue to be quit with will power alone, it would be torture and just too hard. I would either cave or TOTALLY flip out (my body had already mildly flopped out). It wasn't until I really started reading and educating myself on nicotine addictiont that I realized I wasn't giving up anything pleasurable, I was giving up something that was controlling my life and trying to kill me.

It was FEAR that I really needed to give up. Fear that nic gave me confidence, fear that nic made me sociable, fear that nic relaxed me, fear that nic made "things" better. That was all bullshit. Once I gave those fears up, I quit relying on will power to quit and realized I wasn't giving up a God Damn thing.

I read people with more days quit than me say that they still battle the nic bitch everyday. I don't believe that should be the case. Will every day be easy? Hell no, but I think those that are past the HOF and still fight nic daily are still using will power to quit. I think they need to fight their fears of quitting for things to get easier. I think winning that battle is the true way to freedom.

Again, these are just MY random thoughts. Thanks for reading and STAY QUIT!!'

Diesel2112

This is poetry brother. I learned this at a very early point in my quit and that is one reason why it has been easier for me than most. I added some of my own ingredients: a dash of personal pride, a touch of goal setting, a pinch of my will, and some accountability to others and I had the perfect quit mix. I knew early on that the Nic Bitch was a liar and that there was nothing to fear. I accepted one simple truth very early on : nicotine makes any situation worse, not better. I am happy you see all of it. Your are becoming a Jedi of quit my friend.

[Diesel2112]

Random thought...

Day 187 and my quit seems to be going very smooth. Still some bumps, mainly when I tackle tasks I've never tackled dip free before but all in all in relation to "every day life", I find myself doing better and better.

As I drove for 4 hrs today I pondered why and came to the conclusion I am not using will power to quit anymore. In the early days will power was all I used. That's because you use will power when you think you are giving up something pleasurable.

Even though I knew that not chewing was the right move, I honestly believed I was giving something "good" up and it pissed me off and stressed me out...not being able to dip only added to this stress. It was a nightmare and a vicious cycle of frustration and only will power kept me quit.

I couldn't continue to be quit with will power alone, it would be torture and just too hard. I would either cave or TOTALLY flip out (my body had already mildly flopped out). It wasn't until I really started reading and educating myself on nicotine addictiont that I realized I wasn't giving up anything pleasurable, I was giving up something that was controlling my life and trying to kill me.

It was FEAR that I really needed to give up. Fear that nic gave me confidence, fear that nic made me sociable, fear that nic relaxed me, fear that nic made "things" better. That was all bullshit. Once I gave those fears up, I quit relying on will power to quit and realized I wasn't giving up a God Damn thing.

I read people with more days quit than me say that they still battle the nic bitch everyday. I don't believe that should be the case. Will every day be easy? Hell no, but I think those that are past the HOF and still fight nic daily are still using will power to quit. I think they need to fight their fears of quitting for things to get easier. I think winning that battle is the true way to freedom.

Again, these are just MY random thoughts. Thanks for reading and STAY QUIT!!'

Diesel2112