General Discussion - 2018

[Risen2811!]

Day 3. Super depressed and fatigued. I’ve been dipping a can a day for around 11-12 years. I’m pretty sure that’s around $30,000 plus dollars a year spent on dip. I could have bought something I need like a new car or put a down payment on a house. I want these mood swings to leave so I can get back to my old self. I know it will take time but today when my mind said (literally), “A dip will fix that,” I was able to process a rebuttal that it only puts me back into the same place I’ve been before and doesn’t fix anything. Progress of the day was that revelation as I fought temptation. Happy to have this site here.

[chewie]

"You're playing a game of chicken with a dead plant in a plastic can. If you cave you lost to a dead plant." -- Candoit

Thank you for this!

This. Is. Brilliant.

[Hutch18]

21 years can a day. Day 3 cold turkey...

Congrats on Day 3. If you need anything send me a PM. Best decision to quit! ODAAT

[ScaredStraight]

"You're playing a game of chicken with a dead plant in a plastic can. If you cave you lost to a dead plant." -- Candoit

Thank you for this!

[Swampdonkee]

21 years can a day. Day 3 cold turkey...

[ScaredStraight]

So I’m on Day 5 of this journey and, suffice it to say I’m not a very nice person right now.  Was so tired last night I thought I might just get some sleep...no luck.  Sitting on the couch watching ESPN about 0200 and got pissed off at the couch!  I literally said out loud, “I hate this damn couch!  I’ve always hated this damn couch!  Can’t believe we bought this damn thing!”  Why was I pissed at the couch?  I guess it was just the closest thing to me at the time.  I think it’s time to embrace the suck and get over myself.

[ScaredStraight]

This is a real relieve to read...

Ive chewed for about 4 years... max was maybe half a can a day... a bunch of times..

Ive slowed way down this summer... like maybe 7 or 8 tins since June..  but they have been consumed quickly... take 3 or 4 weeks off then crush a can in 2 1/2 days... 

Feeling better about slowing down... but time to quit...  I went guiding fishing... was in the bush for 3 weeks,  I poured my last half can out before I got on the boat...

Got back... damn it, stopped at gas station.. bought a can... got thru half of it by the next morning... will took over and I flushed the rest...

It's been about 8 days.. this time it's for good...  for the last 4 days there's been a soreness in my left jaw, no lumps... no sores in my mouth... difficulty swallowing is maybe a 2/10...

... but I am terrified. Google doesn't help... bit of a cyberchondriac.    I found this website and it's been calming..   I can appreciate what you've said about fearing bad things after you've decided to quit...

Will continue to read more.. but need to get this off my chest...


Already very anxious in general... prone to worry... interviewed for a job.. well dang it if the guy sitting across the table from me... has a section of his jaw missing...   mental health has had a rough week..

I feel you, bro.  Had a place on my gum that was crazy sore and ached for 2 weeks.  Finally told my wife about it (30 yr RN/BSN) and she scared the $&/! out of me!  Google didn’t help!  This was all last Wednesday night - went to Dentist yesterday and all appears good.  Either way, I’ve learned enough and worried enough to know I’m done.  18 years of a can a day makes it the hardest thing I’ve ever done, but I’m committed.  Hang in there!

[chewie]

..... did not know much about the mental fog portion of quitting... but as i have slowed down this summer... i do recall thinking to myself about lapses in mental ability... makes a bit more sense, and adds some context to quitting story now...

good lord yes... the fog is SO real it's not even funny. the ONLY good thing about it is that it passes.

[Huntfishmic]

..... did not know much about the mental fog portion of quitting... but as i have slowed down this summer... i do recall thinking to myself about lapses in mental ability... makes a bit more sense, and adds some context to quitting story now...

[Huntfishmic]

This is a real relieve to read...

Ive chewed for about 4 years... max was maybe half a can a day... a bunch of times..

Ive slowed way down this summer... like maybe 7 or 8 tins since June..  but they have been consumed quickly... take 3 or 4 weeks off then crush a can in 2 1/2 days... 

Feeling better about slowing down... but time to quit...  I went guiding fishing... was in the bush for 3 weeks,  I poured my last half can out before I got on the boat...

Got back... damn it, stopped at gas station.. bought a can... got thru half of it by the next morning... will took over and I flushed the rest...

It's been about 8 days.. this time it's for good...  for the last 4 days there's been a soreness in my left jaw, no lumps... no sores in my mouth... difficulty swallowing is maybe a 2/10...

... but I am terrified. Google doesn't help... bit of a cyberchondriac.    I found this website and it's been calming..   I can appreciate what you've said about fearing bad things after you've decided to quit...

Will continue to read more.. but need to get this off my chest...


Already very anxious in general... prone to worry... interviewed for a job.. well dang it if the guy sitting across the table from me... has a section of his jaw missing...   mental health has had a rough week..

[chewie]

I'm just going to leave this here. Enjoy Friday folks.

E-cig co. put Viagra, Cialis in vape liquids - the FDA is throbbing mad
https://arstechnica.com/science/2018/10/fda-issues-stiff-warning-to-e-cig-seller-who-put-viagra-in-vape-liquid/

[chewie]

I honestly don’t fear going back to chew, I quit for myself and I will not fail. I do fear not feeling completely normal for what that is worth. However it’s possible I don’t know what normal really is and how much better I might be.

1021 days and I had a fucking cave dream so bad this morning I jumped out of bed with cold sweats with tears in my eyes. 1021 days and the fucking nic bitch is still hard at work. Just when you think you got it's ass whipped, the ol' bitch will lure you back in. And the worst part was I vividly remember saying to myself, FUCK !!!!!! Now I gotta go answer 3 questions and get burned at the stake at KTC. That was the worst part. I let down my KTC quit brothers and sisters. It was only a dream but still it really sucked major ass.

16 years almost 17 years smoke free. I had a dream not a week ago I bummed a cigarette off of a buddy at a party and said ahh fuck it and started smoking again. Once again, KTC came into the dream as well.

Good old self will got us right to where we are today, addicted! There is an old term out there anybody who is a friend of Bill will understand when I say, "Self will run riot".

Grab a hold of your quit and embrace it good. Embrace your brothers and sisters of quit even more! Each of us needs each other worse than what we think we do. Just when you think the bitch is gone......  The story always goes well I was at a party having a few drink when suddenly .......

1021 days and still proud as fuck to be quit with each and every one of you every damn day!

Good God... cave dreams are the fucking worst. The ONLY good thing about them is that when you wake up clean you've got a renewed sense of purpose.

[chewie]

I'm into my quit with 69 days.  I happened to quit drinking not long after.  Some days I don't if I'm craving booze or chew.  My afternoons have been close to experiencing a mental fog.  I say have been as they've been getting better.
I was late posting today (November) as the fog started earlier than usual.  Now my commitment is to post first thing, i.e., first priority, well maybe second after hitting the john.  I look forward to feeling normal.  As somebody wrote earlier - I'm not sure what that is right now, but sure am looking forward to it!
Right now I hang onto the thought that at this stage of the game -- "It's way easier to stay quit than to quit again."

You've got the right mindset... keep it up man!

[aikiguy]

I'm into my quit with 69 days.  I happened to quit drinking not long after.  Some days I don't if I'm craving booze or chew.  My afternoons have been close to experiencing a mental fog.  I say have been as they've been getting better.
I was late posting today (November) as the fog started earlier than usual.  Now my commitment is to post first thing, i.e., first priority, well maybe second after hitting the john.  I look forward to feeling normal.  As somebody wrote earlier - I'm not sure what that is right now, but sure am looking forward to it!
Right now I hang onto the thought that at this stage of the game -- "It's way easier to stay quit than to quit again." 

[DjPorkchop]

I honestly don’t fear going back to chew, I quit for myself and I will not fail. I do fear not feeling completely normal for what that is worth. However it’s possible I don’t know what normal really is and how much better I might be.

1021 days and I had a fucking cave dream so bad this morning I jumped out of bed with cold sweats with tears in my eyes. 1021 days and the fucking nic bitch is still hard at work. Just when you think you got it's ass whipped, the ol' bitch will lure you back in. And the worst part was I vividly remember saying to myself, FUCK !!!!!! Now I gotta go answer 3 questions and get burned at the stake at KTC. That was the worst part. I let down my KTC quit brothers and sisters. It was only a dream but still it really sucked major ass.

16 years almost 17 years smoke free. I had a dream not a week ago I bummed a cigarette off of a buddy at a party and said ahh fuck it and started smoking again. Once again, KTC came into the dream as well.

Good old self will got us right to where we are today, addicted! There is an old term out there anybody who is a friend of Bill will understand when I say, "Self will run riot".

Grab a hold of your quit and embrace it good. Embrace your brothers and sisters of quit even more! Each of us needs each other worse than what we think we do. Just when you think the bitch is gone......  The story always goes well I was at a party having a few drink when suddenly .......

1021 days and still proud as fuck to be quit with each and every one of you every damn day!