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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: BaylorGrad19 on July 30, 2019, 03:11:56 PM
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Hey y'all,
I've been peaking around this website for the past few weeks and have decided to become active because I don't think I can take on quitting alone.
Now to share a little bit about myself:
My first pinch of tobacco ever was during the Summer of 2016. I was over at a friend's house and he was surprised that I had never tried dip before, so what the hell one pinch couldn't hurt so I tried Copenhagen wintergreen long-cut. My first experience pretty standard, didn't really care for dip, didn't plan on dipping ever again.
A few months later, during my sophomore year of college, in November 2016 I was going through some personal issues. A friend recommended that I try snus because it might lift my spirits and distract me. So I did. I enjoyed snus, and I self-medicated my emotions with snus. I got through those problems, but I continued using, because I felt that it made life easier to handle.
Moving onto the Summer of 2017, I studied abroad in Argentina. In Argentina, there isn't any dipping tobacco of any kind, at least not any I could find. I'm not into cigarettes, so I quit for the Summer of 2017 cold turkey since I didn't bring any dip with me. Once I arrived back in the states, I figured my stint with dipping tobacco and snus had come to a close. I was done using, I didn't crave for nicotine anymore. Obviously this was not the case.
During my last week in Argentina, I almost got arrested. A month after returning home, the professor in charge of my study abroad trip contacted me. In short, I was going to get in a lot of trouble with my school, so I got incredibly stressed out and started using snus again. (good news is I didn't get in any trouble)
For the last two years of college, I experienced ups and downs, but one thing remained constant: my use of dipping tobacco.
Right now, I'm studying for the law school admissions test and applying for law schools. I feel like this moment in my life is very stressful, but the best time to leave this bad habit behind. I don't want to bore you guys any more with details so that's all I have to say for now. I've been quit since 7/21/2019 and I'm scared and struggling, but I am happy to join this group.
Thank you,
Matt
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Hey y'all,
I've been peaking around this website for the past few weeks and have decided to become active because I don't think I can take on quitting alone.
Now to share a little bit about myself:
My first pinch of tobacco ever was during the Summer of 2016. I was over at a friend's house and he was surprised that I had never tried dip before, so what the hell one pinch couldn't hurt so I tried Copenhagen wintergreen long-cut. My first experience pretty standard, didn't really care for dip, didn't plan on dipping ever again.
A few months later, during my sophomore year of college, in November 2016 I was going through some personal issues. A friend recommended that I try snus because it might lift my spirits and distract me. So I did. I enjoyed snus, and I self-medicated my emotions with snus. I got through those problems, but I continued using, because I felt that it made life easier to handle.
Moving onto the Summer of 2017, I studied abroad in Argentina. In Argentina, there isn't any dipping tobacco of any kind, at least not any I could find. I'm not into cigarettes, so I quit for the Summer of 2017 cold turkey since I didn't bring any dip with me. Once I arrived back in the states, I figured my stint with dipping tobacco and snus had come to a close. I was done using, I didn't crave for nicotine anymore. Obviously this was not the case.
During my last week in Argentina, I almost got arrested. A month after returning home, the professor in charge of my study abroad trip contacted me. In short, I was going to get in a lot of trouble with my school, so I got incredibly stressed out and started using snus again. (good news is I didn't get in any trouble)
For the last two years of college, I experienced ups and downs, but one thing remained constant: my use of dipping tobacco.
Right now, I'm studying for the law school admissions test and applying for law schools. I feel like this moment in my life is very stressful, but the best time to leave this bad habit behind. I don't want to bore you guys any more with details so that's all I have to say for now. I've been quit since 7/21/2019 and I'm scared and struggling, but I am happy to join this group.
Thank you,
Matt
Hi Matt,
Well, first congratulations on making a super wise decision to quit and for making it after using for such a short time compared to most of us here (31 years for me). That is awesome. I am going to quote a phrase to you and I want you to ALWAYS remember it. Ready?,
1 Problem + nicotine = 2 problems; nicotine never solved ANY problem.
So, whenever you are stressing out about anything in life, just remember that saying,
The next thing I would like to comment about is your reference to this being a "bad habit". My friend, this is nothing compared to a bad habit, a bad habit is picking your nose and wiping the buggers on the wall behind the sofa. You and everyone here are NICOTINE ADDICTS. You need to get your mind right on this fact otherwise it will be increasingly difficult for you to succeed.
Keep posting your promise everyday to abstain from nicotine. In here we Wake Up, Piss, Post (WUPP). Don't wait till the end of your day come post your status update that you are still quit. That is not a promise. Get on here early in the day, make your promise and take nicotine off the table for the day. Get to know the other quitters in your group and some of the vets, exchange phone numbers with them. These numbers are your lifeline when you need instant support and they are the foundation of your web of accountability and brotherhood.
PM me if you would like my digits, I am always happy to oblige.
Great job posting roll today. You nailed it first time out of the gate.
Proud to quit with you (PTQWY),
Chris
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Thanks for the encouragement Chris.
You are right about the mindset, I will adjust to that kind of attitude.
Also, the saying that nicotine doesn't solve any problems is very accurate, the magnitude of that statement is easily over-looked at times but I will always keep it in mind because I think those are great words of wisdom.
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Great first post, and glad you're here man.
Did you know that Art Briles's downhill slide all started because he started dipping? One thing let to another, and you know the rest. If you need digits, or want to talk, feel free to PM me. Us Texans gotta stick together. I'm up in Sherman, but am a Red Raider at heart.
And I made up that story about Briles. But it coulda happened. :)
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Thank you for your support Broccoli
I sure do know the rest of that story lol. I'm happy with the amount of Texans on board with KTC. Looking forward to college football and quit conversations.
From what I've seen with you and other Texans on this board we all have three things in common:
1. Proud Texans
2. Want to see Texas lose
3. Quitting dip every day
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Thank you for your support Broccoli
I sure do know the rest of that story lol. I'm happy with the amount of Texans on board with KTC. Looking forward to college football and quit conversations.
From what I've seen with you and other Texans on this board we all have three things in common:
1. Proud Texans
2. Want to see Texas lose
3. Quitting dip every day
If only Texas was as big as Alaska roflmao roflmao
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Thank you for your support Broccoli
I sure do know the rest of that story lol. I'm happy with the amount of Texans on board with KTC. Looking forward to college football and quit conversations.
From what I've seen with you and other Texans on this board we all have three things in common:
1. Proud Texans
2. Want to see Texas lose
3. Quitting dip every day
If only Texas was as big as Alaska roflmao roflmao
Unfortunately Texas is becoming second best at everything rapidly. I was born here 41 years ago and it's sure become a different place.
1. Second largest state
2. Second in Californian douchebag population
I loved my trip to Alaska. Beautiful, but no idea how I could afford to live there.
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I'm nearly 3 weeks into my quit and figured I would give you guys and myself an update because I know one day I'll want to look back on this process and remember how much it has sucked.
Right now I'm at the conclusion of Day 18. These past 3-5 days have been a roller coaster. I have moments of bliss where I don't really experience any pain or craves, and then in other parts of the day I'm in downright hell. During the good moments I still have a tingle of jaw pain, and in the bad moments its all I can think about. I'm at the point where I can't tell if I'm craving or if I'm just in pain. The pain is starting to disrupt my sleep. I know one thing for sure is I definitely do not want dip whatsoever.
I believe the pain may be from grinding my teeth/clenching my mouth at night and subconsciously throughout the day. Perhaps right now I am overwhelming myself with pressure and expectations I have for my goals/tasks in stage in my life. I hope this is the case. Tomorrow I have a dentist appointment to make sure this is the case. It's not an easy road but I'm working on changing my mindset and dealing with these problems I'm experiencing, I know when I come out of the other side of this I will be a better person than I was before.
I am 100% bought into the process on this website. I do not want to relapse EVER. I know we preach ODAAT here, but if I ever feel like I don't need this website I want you guys to take me back here and quote me on this because I don't want to be one of those guys that relapses after years of quit.
I'm incredibly thankful for this community, my October group, the people in our group messages, and the information that has been shared with me, hope y'all have a good night and see yall on roll tomorrow.
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Praying for you on the dentist visit today as well as overcoming the craves. Proud to be quitting with you in Oct.
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Update on my visit to the dentist:
My check-up went very well. My dentist said I'm a very moderate teeth-grinder at best. Turns out my pain is from one of my thirds is sitting right above a nerve, growing into one of my seconds thus putting pressure on the right side of my mouth. So now I have an appointment in early September to have all of my wisdom teeth removed. As far as cancer goes, he checked for it and laughed when I asked if I had cancer and told me that I have a very healthy mouth.
Thank you all for the thoughts and prayers. This is a big relief and now knowing that I'm in the clear makes this quit a tad more easier.
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Update on my quit:
I'm on day 26 and I think I'm going to use my introduction thread kind of like a journal haha.
Well anyways, I feel like I'm in the psychological part of my quit right now. I still get cravings but they're not "painful" in the way they were in the first couple of weeks. I have a constant, dull pain in my right jaw that is very annoying but that is from a wisdom tooth that is getting removed soon, so once I'm past that hump this ride will be much easier. I feel like if I didn't have the accountability offered here I would have caved a few days ago to be honest.
I would say that I'm mostly out of the fog, but there's a tad bit of it still there. The biggest challenge I'm facing right now is not wanting to do a certain things because I don't have dip if that makes sense. I think it's just me making up an excuse to be lazy. Doing something without dip has been comparable to stepping into a slightly chilly pool, after a few nagging moments you get used to it.
I believe that's all I have for now, if you're someone that's contemplating on quitting, I want you to understand that my symptoms have improved incredibly. Yes, I still have challenges but I would argue they are much easier. Honestly, a lot the psychological stuff I'm going through is most likely just life. If I have any advice for new quitters, you need to treat your quit as an illness, you feel sick and dip will not make you feel better, staying away from it will make you feel better and consider roll-call your daily prescription medication.
Proud of my October group it's fun getting through this together as a team. Side note, the roll-call we do every morning reminds of roll-call from when I was in college pledging a fraternity, especially when the veterans get upset when someone is late lol.
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Hey man, you're doing a hell of a job and I'm proud to be quit with you.
I promise you the build up to doing something without dip for the first time in a long time is much worse than actually going through with it. Our minds allow us to make it worse than it is.
Keep being a quitter ODAAT!
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***Repost from my October BAQ Thread***
I started using fake chew around day 33, it helps with my mouth boredom. Fake chew makes me feel like I'm cheating and it totally defeats the cravings for me, I use it whenever I'm studying. Fake chew also makes me less of an asshole in real life as well. I'm not stressing about getting off of my substitute at the moment because I feel like that will happen with time, and as long as its not nicotine or tobacco its fair game. My chewing addiction was very under the radar, very few people outside of my inner circle knew that I chewed at all. So, most of the times in public I'm not using my substitute nor do I really have a desire to because I was always uncomfortable chewing real chew in public.
I thought that was interesting, imagining the situation in which you would relapse. I think my scenario would involve drinking as well or a very dramatic life event. In particular, I'd imagine my relapse would be with some of my very close friends that I used to chew with ALL the time. They know I've quit and have respected my quit, in fact when they chew when we're drinking they've said they would not allow me to have any of their chew. But, I know maybe one day they will say "well you're not addicted anymore one chew for old times sake won't hurt, right?", and that's where NAFAR comes into play. The other scenario, terrible life event. Well, that's just life and shit happens so that terrible life event is bound to happen soon, and again NAFAR comes into play.
One of the most important pieces of advice I've taken from this website is 1 problem + nicotine = 2 problems.
I know chew doesn't make me a better person, it doesn't solve any of my problems, nor does it make me concentrate better.
I have a mental note of the top 10 issues in my life right now, and I prioritize these issues based on urgency and whether or not they can be resolved. There's not a single issue on my list that could be solved by chew.
Sometimes, I think "man chew would make this current dilemma I'm in so much easier to handle, I would be so much more at peace", but that's just addict talk. Chew won't make anything better for me, rather it will just make things worse. If chew came into play again, I would be a sorry sob totally reliant on a stupid can in order to make it through any of life's struggles.
Now that my withdrawal symptoms have significantly subsided, I find myself thinking clearer and performing better. Do I have a lot of anxiety? Yes, at times I do, but I feel that is mainly anxiety that I have unnecessarily created myself. I still have a long ways to go, but I have become a lot more mindful of myself and my emotions.
Like the old saying "time heals everything", I believe this is especially true for our addictions. Our addiction is an illness. We are sick, and WUPP is our daily medication. As long as we stay true and take our daily medication we will get better in time. We quit one day at a time and we improve one day at a time.
I also agree that it helps to check in on the fresh quit groups. Even now at day 53 I'm beginning to forget the struggles of the early quit, how indescribably painful it was at times. So, looking in on the newer guys serves as a reminder to me of how hard the battles were fought and won in the early days. I've never experienced anything like those early days before, hell I literally doubted my ability to go through an airport and board my plane on day 5 of my quit, that's how bad it was!
That's all I have for now, I appreciate all the insights and the people that took the time out of their evening to share their experiences.
Carry on October and fellow quitters
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Going into day 66:
This is just going to be a late night/early morning ramble
(October quitters and some others may know that I tend to have a strange sleep schedule occasionally, this is not due to the quit)
Earlier in this thread my great fear was my quit-fog never subsiding or not subsiding fast enough. I can say with certainty that I haven’t experienced the fog since around the mid 40s day-count. I feel a lot sharper now that I’ve emerged from the other side of the physical withdrawals. I’ve been performing better in life. My anger outbursts and mood fluctuations that I frequently experienced for many weeks have now become less frequent and more under my control.
I wish I could’ve handled my early quit better but it is what it is, I’m still quit and I’m improving. On that note, today I had a thought go through my head:
“Wow you wasted a lot of time during that first many weeks of the quit, you could’ve made more progress in the things you’re working on.”
This is a flawed thought, that time wasn’t wasted. My main priority in life during that time shifted entirely to my quit and some days it took all of my energy. I believe this entirely necessary, I needed to back off of other priorities in order to succeed early on in my quit. This scope shift probably saved and changed my life forever. Now my quit is still a high priority, but now I’m able to handle it along with other facets of my life with more grace.
Also, today I completed and submitted my first of many law school applications.
I remember in May thinking “you can’t quit during the fall, you’ll be stressed and need relief from the application season!”
Au contraire, I’m very thankful to be quit right now.
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Going into day 66:
This is just going to be a late night/early morning ramble
(October quitters and some others may know that I tend to have a strange sleep schedule occasionally, this is not due to the quit)
Earlier in this thread my great fear was my quit-fog never subsiding or not subsiding fast enough. I can say with certainty that I haven’t experienced the fog since around the mid 40s day-count. I feel a lot sharper now that I’ve emerged from the other side of the physical withdrawals. I’ve been performing better in life. My anger outbursts and mood fluctuations that I frequently experienced for many weeks have now become less frequent and more under my control.
I wish I could’ve handled my early quit better but it is what it is, I’m still quit and I’m improving. On that note, today I had a thought go through my head:
“Wow you wasted a lot of time during that first many weeks of the quit, you could’ve made more progress in the things you’re working on.”
This is a flawed thought, that time wasn’t wasted. My main priority in life during that time shifted entirely to my quit and some days it took all of my energy. I believe this entirely necessary, I needed to back off of other priorities in order to succeed early on in my quit. This scope shift probably saved and changed my life forever. Now my quit is still a high priority, but now I’m able to handle it along with other facets of my life with more grace.
Also, today I completed and submitted my first of many law school applications.
I remember in May thinking “you can’t quit during the fall, you’ll be stressed and need relief from the application season!”
Au contraire, I’m very thankful to be quit right now.
Well said young Padawan. The journey of ones quit is different for everyone but none are a waste of time, but are actually a gainer of time in most cases for you have hopefully added many more years on to the end of your life by ridding yourself of that vile poison now.
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Going into day 66:
This is just going to be a late night/early morning ramble
(October quitters and some others may know that I tend to have a strange sleep schedule occasionally, this is not due to the quit)
Earlier in this thread my great fear was my quit-fog never subsiding or not subsiding fast enough. I can say with certainty that I haven’t experienced the fog since around the mid 40s day-count. I feel a lot sharper now that I’ve emerged from the other side of the physical withdrawals. I’ve been performing better in life. My anger outbursts and mood fluctuations that I frequently experienced for many weeks have now become less frequent and more under my control.
I wish I could’ve handled my early quit better but it is what it is, I’m still quit and I’m improving. On that note, today I had a thought go through my head:
“Wow you wasted a lot of time during that first many weeks of the quit, you could’ve made more progress in the things you’re working on.”
This is a flawed thought, that time wasn’t wasted. My main priority in life during that time shifted entirely to my quit and some days it took all of my energy. I believe this entirely necessary, I needed to back off of other priorities in order to succeed early on in my quit. This scope shift probably saved and changed my life forever. Now my quit is still a high priority, but now I’m able to handle it along with other facets of my life with more grace.
Also, today I completed and submitted my first of many law school applications.
I remember in May thinking “you can’t quit during the fall, you’ll be stressed and need relief from the application season!”
Au contraire, I’m very thankful to be quit right now.
Loved and edified by that. Something powerful about seeing another man, a fellow human being on a right trajectory. God speed.
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Going into day 134:
I have come a long way since day 66. I still struggle, but I am in a better place in my quit than before. Just winning the battle one day at a time.
Last week I took the law school admissions test for the second and last time. The first time I took the test was 10 days before my quit and I had a pouch in the entire 3.5 hours of the test (ridiculous right?). Leading up to this second time, I was worried how I would handle my quit through the test.
Now that I am over the hump, I think I surprised even myself, I didn't think about nicotine or tobacco once during test day. I think I improved my score as well. I am in a fantastic place with my quit right now but I will never be content. I'm thankful to be quit with each of you.
Maybe the next time I update here I will know where I will be starting the next chapter of my life. Stay tuned!
ODAAT
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Nothing major to report, but I just had an epiphany oddly enough.
I'm 148 days quit from nicotine and tobacco, and this just kinda occured to me. I was thinking of other problems and then I realized that I've parted ways with one of the worst decisions I've ever made and a huge relief just washed over me. Being quit is awesome guys!
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174 days quit.
Happy to announce my law school admissions journey is now over. I’ll be attending a law school in Tennessee with a focus on international law and also participating in their dual degree program to earn a MA political science as well. Glad to have been quit through this journey with all of you.
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174 days quit.
Happy to announce my law school admissions journey is now over. I’ll be attending a law school in Tennessee with a focus on international law and also participating in their dual degree program to earn a MA political science as well. Glad to have been quit through this journey with all of you.
Congrats BG. Well deserved I'm sure. Bet you didn't think you could do it without your worm dirt. Happy for you my friend. You'll kill it.
~HAG
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280 days quit.
Can’t believe it’s been over 100 days since I’ve last posted here. Anyways, if y’all don’t mind, I would like to use y’all as a sounding board for a thought I have.
This quarantine has given me an extended time to really think about what I want to accomplish in my life and what I care about. To cut to the chase, I feel like I need to stop drinking forever. I wouldn’t call myself an alcoholic (although I’ve consumed frequently and during college I never shied away from opportunities to indulge), but my family has had alcoholics and I have seen the damage alcoholism can do. A lot of good people never rise to their potential because they can’t escape from the clutches of alcohol.
Some of y’all may know this, but I’m 23 years old. My main concerns with not drinking is that when I’m out with friends who are drinking, I don’t want to make people feel uncomfortable because I’m abstaining. I don’t know.
Anyways, I’m sure some people here have some great insight on this, so what do y’all think?
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280 days quit.
Can’t believe it’s been over 100 days since I’ve last posted here. Anyways, if y’all don’t mind, I would like to use y’all as a sounding board for a thought I have.
This quarantine has given me an extended time to really think about what I want to accomplish in my life and what I care about. To cut to the chase, I feel like I need to stop drinking forever. I wouldn’t call myself an alcoholic (although I’ve consumed frequently and during college I never shied away from opportunities to indulge), but my family has had alcoholics and I have seen the damage alcoholism can do. A lot of good people never rise to their potential because they can’t escape from the clutches of alcohol.
Some of y’all may know this, but I’m 23 years old. My main concerns with not drinking is that when I’m out with friends who are drinking, I don’t want to make people feel uncomfortable because I’m abstaining. I don’t know.
Anyways, I’m sure some people here have some great insight on this, so what do y’all think?
Brother happy to help with this. Just be you and do what you want. I’m here if you want assistance.
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280 days quit.
Can’t believe it’s been over 100 days since I’ve last posted here. Anyways, if y’all don’t mind, I would like to use y’all as a sounding board for a thought I have.
This quarantine has given me an extended time to really think about what I want to accomplish in my life and what I care about. To cut to the chase, I feel like I need to stop drinking forever. I wouldn’t call myself an alcoholic (although I’ve consumed frequently and during college I never shied away from opportunities to indulge), but my family has had alcoholics and I have seen the damage alcoholism can do. A lot of good people never rise to their potential because they can’t escape from the clutches of alcohol.
Some of y’all may know this, but I’m 23 years old. My main concerns with not drinking is that when I’m out with friends who are drinking, I don’t want to make people feel uncomfortable because I’m abstaining. I don’t know.
Anyways, I’m sure some people here have some great insight on this, so what do y’all think?
Brother happy to help with this. Just be you and do what you want. I’m here if you want assistance.
I appreciate the support, I’m going to take this ODAAT. Then at some point down the road after a certain amount of days I’ll decide if I want to remain sober or go for actual moderation with alcohol.
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280 days quit.
Can’t believe it’s been over 100 days since I’ve last posted here. Anyways, if y’all don’t mind, I would like to use y’all as a sounding board for a thought I have.
This quarantine has given me an extended time to really think about what I want to accomplish in my life and what I care about. To cut to the chase, I feel like I need to stop drinking forever. I wouldn’t call myself an alcoholic (although I’ve consumed frequently and during college I never shied away from opportunities to indulge), but my family has had alcoholics and I have seen the damage alcoholism can do. A lot of good people never rise to their potential because they can’t escape from the clutches of alcohol.
Some of y’all may know this, but I’m 23 years old. My main concerns with not drinking is that when I’m out with friends who are drinking, I don’t want to make people feel uncomfortable because I’m abstaining. I don’t know.
Anyways, I’m sure some people here have some great insight on this, so what do y’all think?
There's an alcohol slowdown (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?topic=232.msg7768532#new) and an alcohol quit (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?topic=229.msg7911673#new) page. I encourage you to check it out. Given the staggering cost of alcohol and its secondary effects on people and our society, it is amazing it's still legal. I found the alcohol cessation very different and far more difficult in many respects. A friend likes to say everyone's rock bottom is different. Some have to lose everything first; others need only witness someone else auger in to realize the need to pull up. With respect to the effect on a the group around you, did you ever feel awkward drinking in front of some one who wasn't? I know it never bothered me. More booze for me is how I viewed that one. Not anymore. I'm sure you know the one who thinks they're the life of the party but is really an asshole. Maybe you're that guy, maybe not. One thing is for sure - something has made you question how you use alcohol. I encourage you to keep digging until you find an answer on this one. Alcohol is not your friend.
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280 days quit.
Can’t believe it’s been over 100 days since I’ve last posted here. Anyways, if y’all don’t mind, I would like to use y’all as a sounding board for a thought I have.
This quarantine has given me an extended time to really think about what I want to accomplish in my life and what I care about. To cut to the chase, I feel like I need to stop drinking forever. I wouldn’t call myself an alcoholic (although I’ve consumed frequently and during college I never shied away from opportunities to indulge), but my family has had alcoholics and I have seen the damage alcoholism can do. A lot of good people never rise to their potential because they can’t escape from the clutches of alcohol.
Some of y’all may know this, but I’m 23 years old. My main concerns with not drinking is that when I’m out with friends who are drinking, I don’t want to make people feel uncomfortable because I’m abstaining. I don’t know.
Anyways, I’m sure some people here have some great insight on this, so what do y’all think?
There's an alcohol slowdown (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?topic=232.msg7768532#new) and an alcohol quit (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?topic=229.msg7911673#new) page. I encourage you to check it out. Given the staggering cost of alcohol and its secondary effects on people and our society, it is amazing it's still legal. I found the alcohol cessation very different and far more difficult in many respects. A friend likes to say everyone's rock bottom is different. Some have to lose everything first; others need only witness someone else auger in to realize the need to pull up. With respect to the effect on a the group around you, did you ever feel awkward drinking in front of some one who wasn't? I know it never bothered me. More booze for me is how I viewed that one. Not anymore. I'm sure you know the one who thinks they're the life of the party but is really an asshole. Maybe you're that guy, maybe not. One thing is for sure - something has made you question how you use alcohol. I encourage you to keep digging until you find an answer on this one. Alcohol is not your friend.
Thanks for your input, I really value the info here. I started posting in alcohol slow down a couple days ago. I think that’s where I need to be while I’m figuring this issue out.
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280 days quit.
Can’t believe it’s been over 100 days since I’ve last posted here. Anyways, if y’all don’t mind, I would like to use y’all as a sounding board for a thought I have.
This quarantine has given me an extended time to really think about what I want to accomplish in my life and what I care about. To cut to the chase, I feel like I need to stop drinking forever. I wouldn’t call myself an alcoholic (although I’ve consumed frequently and during college I never shied away from opportunities to indulge), but my family has had alcoholics and I have seen the damage alcoholism can do. A lot of good people never rise to their potential because they can’t escape from the clutches of alcohol.
Some of y’all may know this, but I’m 23 years old. My main concerns with not drinking is that when I’m out with friends who are drinking, I don’t want to make people feel uncomfortable because I’m abstaining. I don’t know.
Anyways, I’m sure some people here have some great insight on this, so what do y’all think?
There's an alcohol slowdown (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?topic=232.msg7768532#new) and an alcohol quit (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?topic=229.msg7911673#new) page. I encourage you to check it out. Given the staggering cost of alcohol and its secondary effects on people and our society, it is amazing it's still legal. I found the alcohol cessation very different and far more difficult in many respects. A friend likes to say everyone's rock bottom is different. Some have to lose everything first; others need only witness someone else auger in to realize the need to pull up. With respect to the effect on a the group around you, did you ever feel awkward drinking in front of some one who wasn't? I know it never bothered me. More booze for me is how I viewed that one. Not anymore. I'm sure you know the one who thinks they're the life of the party but is really an asshole. Maybe you're that guy, maybe not. One thing is for sure - something has made you question how you use alcohol. I encourage you to keep digging until you find an answer on this one. Alcohol is not your friend.
Thanks for your input, I really value the info here. I started posting in alcohol slow down a couple days ago. I think that’s where I need to be while I’m figuring this issue out.
BG, to take another stance, but not to change your plans. At about 28 years old, I decided I hated being hung over. I also decided that I hated losing control of anything. I changed everything about how I treated alcohol. Rarely do I have more than one or 2 drinks in an evening. There were plenty of days in my youth that I would drink till I blacked out or got myself into serious trouble. Moderation has worked well for me for the last 22 years. I met some KTC quitters 1.5 years ago that were so pumped up to "get drunk" with me. When I told them that's not what I do, they just couldn't understand. You know you and you know your needs and priorities, so In the end, take this time to figure out where you want to be. Everyone else has had some good advice and I do t want to take away from any of that, just adding in another perspective
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"Those of us who watched the Lunar Voyage of Apollo 11 were transfixed as we saw the first men walk on the moon and return to earth. Superlatives such as "fantastic" and "incredible" were inadequate to describe those eventful days. But to get there, those astronauts literally had to break out of the tremendous gravity pull of the earth. More energy was spent in the first few minutes of lift-off, in the first few miles of travel, than was used over the next several days to travel half a million miles."
For those just quitting, the beginning is the hardest part, but once you build momentum and maintain your quit, you'll be well on your way.
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Some quit gold for the weekend
"Nothing happens to anybody which he is not fitted by nature to bear. Shame on the soul, to falter on the road of life while the body still perseveres. Every instant of time is a pinprick of eternity." - Marcus Aurelius
"There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it." 1 Corinthians 10 13
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581 ODAAT
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581 ODAAT
EDD ! keep after IT that’s some damn good quittin!
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581 ODAAT
You said it, Quit Gold for the Weekend!
581 ya bad ass!!
"Nothing happens to anybody which he is not fitted by nature to bear. Shame on the soul, to falter on the road of life while the body still perseveres. Every instant of time is a pinprick of eternity." - Marcus Aurelius
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581 ODAAT
Glad to see you are still quit @BaylorGrad19 (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=14762) . However, there is strength in numbers. You would be wise to join your group you left and rebuild relationships. The day will come when you need a shoulder to lean on.
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After some thoughts, I think I’ll start posting roll again. I appreciate the thoughts and I think any feelings of anger or suspicion towards me are rightly justified
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After some thoughts, I think I’ll start posting roll again. I appreciate the thoughts and I think any feelings of anger or suspicion towards me are rightly justified
Welcome back BG!
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After some thoughts, I think I’ll start posting roll again. I appreciate the thoughts and I think any feelings of anger or suspicion towards me are rightly justified
Welcome back BG!
Can't imagine you'll regret coming back if it keeps you quit. Welcome back
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I bought a can of dip, opened it up, smelled it. Took out a big fat pinch and almost put it in my mouth, but decided to throw it away.
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I bought a can of dip, opened it up, smelled it. Took out a big fat pinch and almost put it in my mouth, but decided to throw it away.
@BaylorGrad19 (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=14762) congrats? Are you looking for praise or pity?
Keep doing it your way man. Seems to be working well. If you utilized the system and accountability the way it's intended, you would have never got to that point. Why flirt with this level of danger?
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And you still choose to run from accountability. SMH
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You guys can pretend that accountability doesn't exist outside of this group. SMH.
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You guys can pretend that accountability doesn't exist outside of this group. SMH.
So I gotta ask - why are you here? Why post what you did? What premise brought you here?
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You guys can pretend that accountability doesn't exist outside of this group. SMH.
Says the guy who caved out and came back, then went and bought a can. Family and friends tend to tell you what you want to hear to preserve your feelings, that’s not accountability. I think deep down you know that, otherwise you would’ve disappeared completely when you left the discord server. Yet here you are…
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You guys can pretend that accountability doesn't exist outside of this group. SMH.
Says the guy who caved out and came back, then went and bought a can. Family and friends tend to tell you what you want to hear to preserve your feelings, that’s not accountability. I think deep down you know that, otherwise you would’ve disappeared completely when you left the discord server. Yet here you are…
Surrounding yourself with quitters that care more about your quit than you do at times is huge. Joining a group and quitting daily with fellow quitters is huge. It makes your quit bigger than just you. I know I never wanted to let anyone down including myself. You failed several times before. What do you have to lose to try the KTC way - and don’t say you tried before. You never bought into the system and process that is proven to keep you quit. I don’t think you ever understood the importance and meaning of posting roll and why it is crucial to do first thing. You can keep doing things your way @BaylorGrad19 (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=14762) but I don’t think you are going to find long term success with that method. You have my digits from the past, feel free to use them if you really want help.