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Title: It Is Time
Post by: BrianG on September 17, 2018, 03:03:57 PM

Posted 19 Jan, 2017. 

It is time. Everything has a time and my time with dipping has come to an end. I have dipped for 35 years+. I messed around with tobacco at a very young age and by the time I was 15 it was an everyday habit. I can remember when a can of skoal fine cut could be bought for 40 cents. If only it was $5+ back then, I would have never started.
It is time. I turned 50 a few weeks back. I dont care about the number as far as age goes, I know I can still hang. I care about the number only as it pertains to my tobacco addiction. It puts the light on a 35 year habit. I said I would never go past 20 years...well, never past 25 years....well 30 years will be time to quit. I have done very little to keep it from becoming 40 years. It is Time.
It is time to keep the promise to my 16 year old daughter that I made many years ago. Daddy will quit for you. She does not know of this at this point, but I will let her know that I finally quit lying to her.
It is time to put the poison down and get on with my life. My wife and I have made plans over the years of how we will live our retirement years. Not fair to her for me to be playing Russian roulette with my life.
It is time

BrianG

Title: Re: It Is Time
Post by: BrianG on October 17, 2018, 03:33:05 PM

--30yrAddict

Is Posting Roll Enough?

So you've got a handle on how the site works, right? Post roll, honor that promise, repeat...is that all it takes? Technically, yes that is all it takes- if you do those three things every day without fail, you will quit for the rest of your life one today at a time- except -it doesn't seem to play out that way for many folks....That program is the foundation, the cornerstone of the program here. It is the bare minimum. That's the problem right there- people who do the bare minimum for their quit tend not to stick with it over the long haul. I can tell these people right away- they are the ones that you almost never see here as they are only here long enough to post roll. Those are the folks that you have to PM and/or use multiple posts to get their attention, because they don't even take the time to scroll down to find out what happened to their quit brothers/sisters throughout the day....hell they don't even look over the roll they are posting in to see what others are going through. I am pretty convinced I could change the header to "December Druids in Favor of Clubbing Baby Seals to Death" and they would come in, hit the quote button post their roll and leave... These people contribute nothing to the site- they are just a name followed by a number. Just as they were on the site they tend to just fade away into oblivion...and when they are gone, nobody really notices...sometimes they come back and post a day 1...usually it doesn't matter though. Because they usually just do the same thing all over again....post roll, leave the site quickly, fade away....

Then there are those that "get it". Those that understand the more they have invested in their quit, the better. Those that post roll every day and then build on it with developing accountability by exchanging numbers, reading the treasure chest of knowledge that is found throughout the site, by stepping up an helping other quitters- those are the people who stay quit.

Is your quit worth more than the bare minimum? If it's not- I predict a cave in your future. Post Roll, Honor Your Promise, Repeat. Exchange Numbers, Read, Take the time to help quitters new and old. Invest in your quit.

Title: Re: It Is Time
Post by: BrianG on October 17, 2018, 03:34:02 PM

30yrAddict --

A Word to Those That Know More than the Vets

Imagine that you are standing in front of a minefield...on the other side of that minefield stands a soldier...not only has he walked that minefield safely, but he has guided thousands of others through that minefield safely as well.. He hails you from the other side and offers to guide you across safely...

do you:

a) tell him he is well meaning but really doesn't know shit about minefields

or

b.) shut  up and listen  to what he has to say, treading the path of thousands of others before you.


one way guarantees you safe passage, Why tread a new path?

drink the kool aid...drink long. drink deep.

Don't be a casualty.

Title: Re: It Is Time
Post by: BrianG on October 17, 2018, 03:34:53 PM

30yrAddict --

30 the Roll Nazi:

You might be wondering why the emphasis on posting first thing in your day? Remember that your roll post is a promise not to use nicotine for just one day.....also know that your addict mind is always trying to get a fix of nicotine. Your addict mind is an expert on rationalization....For example : "I didn't post roll yet, so I'm really not breaking a promise by having just one....I can just quit tomorrow again..." Shut the door on your addict mind- post up first thing.

The other aspect of posting roll early and every day is that it is an investment in your accountability...if I post whenever I feel like it, nobody is going to pay attention when I am missing, whereas if I post every morning, it is going to raise a warning when folks don't see my post by the afternoon. I want my inbox blown up by dinnertime if I don't post...don't you?

Title: Re: It Is Time
Post by: BrianG on October 17, 2018, 03:36:00 PM

30yrAddict--

Want vs Decision

So what happened to those that disappeared to never be heard from again? While we can't be sure of a cave, it is possible that they just didn't want this bad enough. For those of you who are left: How bad do you want to quit? Because your success is predicted with perfect accuracy from the true answer to that question. Most of my 33 years dipping I strongly "wanted" to quit. If quitting's a strong "want" in your life- you will fail. It may not be today, it may not be next week, you may make it to your HOF day and beyond, but eventually you will cave. For those of you in this category- no advice you receive is going to be effective over the long term until you decide to shut the door on nicotine. Until you make the decision that you will pursue a lifestyle of quit. Go look at the cancer pics, do some research on what big tobacco has done over the years to keep you as their Marionette....read about Tom and Jenny Kern. go over to whyquit.com and read some of the stories there. Do whatever it takes to get you to the point of closing the door on nicotine. While we can give advice on how to quit, we cannot close the door for you. That, dear reader, is up to you.

If you are truly sick of this stupid addiction, really sick of being the lackey of big tobacco, sick of worrying about cancer, sick of hiding your addiction from others, and you want this quit more than anything else..and you drink the KTC kool aid - you will succeed- guaranteed. The program is foolproof:

Post Roll
Honor your promise for today
Repeat

One last thing: Quitters find a way to quit. Caver's find a way to cave.

Be a quitter.

Title: Re: It Is Time
Post by: BrianG on October 17, 2018, 03:37:42 PM

There is never just one- by kcah

I am going to share my story of my first quit, take it for what you will.

After chewing for years while in the military, the day I got out I left the can behind. I had not been to the US in about 6 years and i was looking to settle down, i was going to be home every night, and I sure didnt need that habit. So I walked away. Didnt chew before the military, wasnt going to chew after.

Years went by, YEARS without chew, I never missed it.

One day a buddy from the military showed up with a can of chew, he had moved back to town. At first I was strong, but at some point, some point I don't even recall I took one from him. I dont know how long it was till I was buying my own cans again but it couldn't of been more than a week. This was about 7 or 8 years ago.

Since then I was back to a can a day habit until I found this website because my gums were so fucked up I couldn't take it anymore.
KC

Title: Re: It Is Time
Post by: BrianG on October 17, 2018, 03:38:52 PM

30yrAddict on day 330 --

I look at the nic bitch at this point as a lion looking at a herd- she is waiting for someone to lag behind, waiting to pick the next one off, looking for a sign of weakness, looking for someone who is not thinking about the fact that they are still vulnerable. She is patient, In some cases she waits thousands of days to pick one off.

I'm stayin with the herd.

Title: Re: It Is Time
Post by: BrianG on October 17, 2018, 03:42:31 PM

30yrAddict, Day 461--

An open letter to the nic bitch.

you try to make me think I can have a chew once in a while....it's a lie. You are just trying to enslave me.

you try to make me think it would be so good, that it would feel so good - Here's the truth- the majority of times you made me gag rushing to spit- so I wouldn't puke.

you try to convince me that it would be so much fun to spend time with you- the truth is you robbed me of so much time over my life that I do not want to waste another minute

you try to make me think there is no way I can remain quit forever. I don't have to- I only have to stay quit today.

although you have tried over the last two weeks to convince me of these things.....

I am still done with you.

The door is shut.

And it's staying that way.

Title: Re: It Is Time
Post by: BrianG on October 17, 2018, 03:43:30 PM

30yrAddict --

Complacency

Some of you might be at a stage where this quit is...dare I say it? Kinda EASY! You haven't been craving as much, hell sometimes you barely even think about dip. You might even be wondering why it took you so long to quit, as it really wasn't as hard as you thought...

I know I came to that stage about day 25 or so. Now the face of the enemy has changed. Your first days were sheer willpower, withdrawals, craves, reaching for a can that was no longer there...but now your enemy has a new name: COMPLACENCY....

The nic-bitch has been waiting for this point, waiting for the time you go out without your cell phone, waiting for the time you get drunk, or until you will listen to her little promptings that you can have "just one". Waiting until you know that you own this addiction, that no thought or planning is required to protect your quit. She's waiting to separate you from your support, get you distant from the herd so she can move in for the kill.

COMPLACENCY- This enemy you will battle for perhaps thousands of days, perhaps even for the rest of your life. I can tell you I would LOVE to forget about dip, love to forget about this stupid addiction, but I know I should not, that I cannot. You see, i have failed at quitting many times, I know what happens when I forget. To forget is to fail.

For that reason, you will see me posting roll tomorrow. It is how I have begun my day for the last 321 days in a row- a reminder that I am an addict, lest I forget.

Title: Re: It Is Time
Post by: BrianG on October 17, 2018, 03:46:55 PM

I was never a retread, but I remember reading this very early in my quit.  I read the last paragraph here 100 times.
I knew Dale was right.  I had to be all in or I would find an excuse to start using again.  You have to be all in for this to
work.  Take tobacco off the table and do something else.

30yrAddict--

A Word to the Retreads

I wanted to wait until all of the drama died down to have a word with you....

So you are back...and posting roll...Doing the things I would expect to see from someone who is serious about their quit...In addition to posting roll, I sure hope you are living, breathing, drinking the kool aid here.

You can believe 2 things about this place: It's nothing more than a tool to help you quit and the people here are just strangers in cyberspace........ or this is a place full of dead serious quitters intent on saving their own life and helping others save theirs.

In the short time I have been here, I have actually met several quitters, talked to some more on the phone, texted still others, and keep in contact with others through facebook, pm, and email. I have moved the KTC experience far beyond some self help website in cyberspace. I have no place to hide...In order to get away from these folks I would have to change my home number, email address, cell number, move (yes some of them know where I live), abandon my facebook account, and ask my kids and wife to abandon theirs.

In other words- this is my last quit- and I am all in. I have built my accountability to the point that there is no going back...no hedged bets, no retreat clause, no surrender.

My question for you is: Have you decided this is your last quit? Then box yourself in...build your accountability to the point there is no escape. Take every opportunity to be held accountable to other quitters. Stay in constant contact with people that will not tolerate addict thinking. In short put all your chips in the center of the table...go all in.

Title: Re: It Is Time
Post by: BrianG on October 17, 2018, 03:49:34 PM

tinman wrote:

If chewing is interfering with your family and work, you're probably a heavy chewer. If your family and work is interfering with your chewing, you're an addict.

Such is the case for me.

Title: Re: It Is Time
Post by: BrianG on October 17, 2018, 04:50:23 PM

Of course you would quit, right???


(cubs204 @ May 25, 2009, 11:20 am)
Dont know where else to post this so Ill put it here.  My mom just called me.  My uncle has had major circulatory problems related to smoking for the last few years.  The doctors told him 5 weeks ago that he had to quit smoking to be able to remove an artery from under his arm and put it in his legs, otherwise they will have ot amputate at some point.  My uncle went into the doctors yesterday, he hasnt quit smoking, and told the doctors he wont.  The doctors said he has less than 3 months for his left leg, 6 months for his right.  My uncle is effectively choosing nicotine over his legs. Nicotine over legs.  Nicotine over legs.  Nicotine over the ability to ever walk again.  I will never put that shit in my body again.

Title: Re: It Is Time
Post by: BrianG on October 17, 2018, 04:53:15 PM

(Skoal Monster @ Aug 14, 2009, 10:53 am)
Ah the coot, yes yes you are feeling some pain, a sense of loss perhaps? You quit for 100 days it was almost fun, a challenge, the community and the brotherhood were exciting and new. But now the first kiss is over and your quit is not so novel eh? Slowly reality sets in that you are really quit and your not going back THIS MY FRIEND IS A GOOD THING. However, Sally Rotten Crotch nic bitch isnt done with you yet, she's starting to whisper in your ear..... "Dean baby enough of these games, you know you can't leave me forever so why don't you just give up?" "Don't you love me anymore?" 

I too hit a post Hof funk that was harder than the first two weeks of my quit. Its a gut check boy o .

   There is nothing wrong with you a dip could fix, Chew does not fill a void in your life but creates one. You have lost nothing by giving it up. You say you still love it? What did you love you don't have now? Did it enhance your enjoyment of life? I doubt it. Perhaps your spouse found you more attractive, she always liked the pics in National Geographic of the dudes with a plate in their lower lip. Were you a better dad ? constantly hiding from your family or holding your baby in one hand and a spitter in the other? It helps you relax?, yes yes, but medically you know that's bullshit, it raised your bp and heart rate. the relaxation you felt was just getting back to normal because you fed the addiction and removed the withdrawl. Maybe you are secretly in love with Ahmed the gas station attendant, you miss going in and saying. " no not that can the other one,no to your left, no not the fucking peach god dammit the Copenhagen you fucker" All the while wanting to jump behind the counter and kill him cause your fiending.
  There is nothing to miss Dean, its a scam.

The nic bitch is the mental version of the Sham Wow fag, you need to turn the fucking channel or put in some ear plugs. Honestly what helped me is finding some other poor deluded addict on his day one and watching him struggle like hell. It was almost sadistic at first. I felt satiatied when they hit the fog and the funk and the headaches and first no sleep then can't sleep enough, and the mouth sores and the fear of cancer. Watching them helped me stay quit because I hated that and won't do it again. I remember being desperate to stop and each night laying in bed thinking tomorrow tomorrow I wont dip. Watching guys cave forces me to remember that and not become complacent with my quit. Then it turned from love of dip and a sense of loss to a militant hatred. You have to cultivate that hate. Watching people struggle today pisses me off, not at them, but at the addiction. It is crazy the toll nic takes on us both mentally and physically. Find some strugglers in the new group and try to shepard them thru to the Hof. Don't get discouraged with yourself if they cave, many will. It will only remind you how far you have come and what you left behind. This will strengthen your quit. If they do make it, sharing the struggle with them will strengthen your quit as well.

Good luck Dean The Quitter

Title: Re: It Is Time
Post by: BrianG on October 17, 2018, 04:54:45 PM

Skoal Monster--

For all you fuckers, This funk thing is a nightmare,mine hit around the nid 60's and didn't leave until 75. Like Mrogers I also had issues with my wife, whom I love. I realized that I had been treating her horribly for years due to my addiction, I literally would rather sit alone and dip than spend time with her!! how fucking selfish. When I quit I soon realized that I had to re learn how to relate to my bride. Instead of just popping in some skoal when she was pissing me off I actually had to learn how to talk to her. Maybe somebody else can explain it better. All I know is alot of my personal relationships suffered because of dip, and when I quit it took some work to start repairing them, maybe its like in AA where you have to make ammends?
The other thing that has been pissing me off about dip is this... ITS A BIG FUCKING LIE.I quit because dip didn't work for me anymore, I could not chew enough dip to satisfy my craving. I could smoke marlborough reds one after another with a fucking chew in and I still couldn't kill the crave. So then I read this damn book by some fag named Alan Carr and he describes how a nicotine addict eventually reaches a point where they cannot ever achieve a level of satisfaction. I was spending all day trying to feel normal, and to get to normal I had to chew like a beaver on crack. And get this, "normal" is what we felt like before we became nic addicts. So Im living my life feeding a fucking monkey buckets of cancer so I can feel ALMOST as good as I did before I started dipping. What a fucking scam. This is why you see smokers that light one off another all day long, they can't kill the crave. So we spend our lives in a perpetual state of withdrawl, always pissed, always craving, always scheming for another dip.
FUCK THAT, I dont care how bad the funk gets, I will not go back to that life, I don't care if I have one bad crave a day forever, I dont care if I crave all day forever, That would still be better than dipping all day everyday, I am calmer now, I engage with my kids, I can eat dinner and not be jonesing for a dip in the middle of the meal, I can have a real relationship with my wife. I have to deal with my feelings, which is something I haven't done without a wedge in my pie hole in 20 plus years. I am free of the biggest bunch of bullshit ever thunk up by man, I will not go back to that no matter what the fucking nic bitch whispers to me.
Lastly, for those of you thinking about caving, here is what I know. The chew that your craving right now, the one you think is gonna be so good isn't the one your gonna get. Your nic soaked brain is thinking about your best dip, maybe your first dip or that one in the bleachers from highschool, but thats not the dip your gonna get when you cave. The cave dip is going to be just like the LAST DIP you ever had, you know the one, it was shitty and you didn't want it but you took it anyway. That dip didn't do shit for you but make you feel worse about chewing and hiding it, and killing yourself with it. THAT is the dip to remember, and that is the dip you get when you cave, except now you have 100 times the guilt because you were free and you threw it away. What a fucking moron I would be to want to have that particular dip.......Again. If you chew then you have tried to quit and you know that what Im saying is true, at least it was for me. Im not having that dip ever again. So as bad as all the fucking craves are and the faggitty funk is I for one will suffer thru it, because the hours or days or minutes that Im not battling that shit are truly mine and I am free. Its worth it... Oh and Special ED can FUCK OFF OR POST BELOW THE LINE, Scooter gets a pass because he is hung like a stallion and therefore meets May quitter criteria. Sorry for the long rant

Title: Re: It Is Time
Post by: BrianG on October 17, 2018, 04:56:53 PM

Your right, we do understand. This habit will make you lie to everyone including yourself. I never thought I could quit, this site helped me tremendously. The thing is you have to use it correctly. After 219 days quit this is what I know.

1. READ everything on this site- Start with words of wisdom and the Hof speeches, and I MEAN ALL OF THEM!!! then the CANCER and QUITTER Stories. Yes every single one. This will take you a week but start reading each day until you find something you can latch onto for that day. Just like the Tom and Jenny Kern story tore you up, find something each day like it. In the beginning this is hugely helpful.

2. GET PHONE NUMBERS AND USE THEM- if I or someone else offers you their phone number I fully expect you to call me if you are struggling. Even if you just need to BS to keep your mind of dipping. It's ok!! thats why I offered it to you. I can help you stay quit if you call.

3. GIVE YOU NUMBER TO YOUR FELLOW QUITTERS- they will keep you accountible when you slack. They can text, call or E-mail your craving ass when you think your going to disappear and start dipping again. This is the first step in becoming accountable to your group and your quit. If I have your number and you haven't posted I WILL CALL OR TEXT YOU for an explanation.

4. POST POST POST!!!!! Chaces are whatever crazy fucked up thing your going thru, somebody here has already been thru it. Getting fat? losing your mind? can't sleep? sleep too much? weird things going on with your yap? sunflower seeds make you feel super sexy? POST THAT SHIT UP. I can't help you or tell you its normal if you don't share. This includes when your kicking ass, beating down cravings, or totally freaking out. When you post and open yourself up to the group, you will be suprised at the strength of their support.

5. Help who you can, when you can, how you can. Helping another is a sure way to strengthen your own quit. If you know that I am counting on you to help me stay quit, can you cave?

6. CHAT- use the chat room, I was in there every day for the first 100 days. When your having a hard time ASK FOR HELP!!!!!!!! There is alot of pointless conversation and chit chat going on in there, but if you break in and tell people that you need help, YOU WILL GET IT. It might be a kick in the ass or a helpful push but you will get help. If you don't reach out you will get nothing in return. YOu are not weak for reaching out so don't be embarrassed. This is a support site use the support stupid.

7. HAVE A VOICE- the most active quitters are generally the most successul. Talk about what is working or not working for you, ask questions.

8. REMEMBER THAT THERE IS NO ACCEPTABLE REASON TO CAVE. Not a single one, not ever. I don't care what happens to you in the next 100 days. There is not a single scenario that will improve because you started chewing again. Chew doesn't help anything except keeping you addicted to nicotine.

9. You will feel like shit for the first few days and maybe even weeks. So what? That is your body expelling all the poison out of it. The pain of the initial withdrawl is referred to here as the suck. Embrace the suck, dont ever forget how shitty it is. You will only have to do it once if you can remember forever how hard it was. The SUCK is the price you pay to win your freedom from nicotine.

10. IT DOES GET BETTER EVERYDAY. You will not wake up on day 22 and be all better, you won't be all better on day 4 or 44 or 104. Each day your body heals a little bit. Your circulation comes back a little bit, your anxiety starts to ease up. Your more even tempered (that one took some time for me) Etc Etc. But here is the catch, it's like watching a plant grow. You can't see it and its slow, at some point you will realize there has been a change in how you feel, physically or emotionally but you will not be able to recognize when it happened. The best part is after a awhile controlling your addiction gets easier and the changes become larger. Quitting this poison will not only save your life, it will change your life.

This is hard so you better get tough. The tools above will make it easier to win your freedom, but only if you use them. Good luck

Skoal Monster

Title: Re: It Is Time
Post by: BrianG on October 17, 2018, 05:00:35 PM

Nicotine Warning for Cold Turkey Quitters


Roughly 80-90% of all new quitters attempt to quit cold turkey (abrupt nicotine cessation).  If you are one of them then you need to know that many highly respected websites contain advertisements, quitting instructions and articles created by the pharmaceutical industry for the purpose of getting you to purchase nicotine (which they have renamed medicine) and use it (which they have renamed therapy).  Their super slick marketing is designed to make you quickly believe that you have very little chance of succeeding unless you rush-out and purchase nicotine weaning products such as the nicotine patch, nicotine gum or nicotine lozenge and immediately put nicotine back into your bloodstream.   They do not want you to believe in "you."  They do not want you to reach for education, understanding, new skills and support, as honest tools that make dreams come true at rates that make those achieved by their weaning products laughable.

Sadly, very few sites are sharing useful, recent and honest NRT data with quitters.  Those with a financial stake must keep secret the fact that a March 2003 NRT study review by paid pharmaceutical industry consultants combined and averaged all seven over-the-counter nicotine patch and gum studies and found that 93% of those who "believed" and "trusted" in the nicotine weaning message failed and relapsed to smoking nicotine within six months ( link to full text of March, 2003 study ).  Nor will those receiving donations or profits for allowing nicotine to be marketed at their websites warn you that too many among the 7% who do quit smoking for six months have instead become permanent chemical captives to the very product they purchased to help them break nicotine's grip upon their mind.  Nor will they tell you that if you have previously tried and failed while using nicotine weaning products that, according to two nicotine patch recycling studies, your odds of relapse during a second attempt may be as high as 100%.

But most importantly, these sites continue to refuse to caution the 80-90% of new quitters who arrive having quit cold turkey, that if they have remained 100% nicotine free for 72 hours that their blood is now 100% nicotine-clean, 90% of nicotine's metabolites have passed through their urine, and that for them chemical withdrawal has peaked in intensity and is now beginning to gradually subside.  Any nicotine use at this point constitutes chemical relapse that will require them to repeat nicotine detox all over again.  This is the "Law of Addiction."

But take heart if you are quitting cold turkey.  According to the American Cancer Society's Cancer Facts & Figures 2003 report, 91.2% of all successful long-term quitters are today quitting entirely on their own without using Zyban, Wellbutrin, hypnosis, acupuncture, magic herbs, and without toying with any gradual nicotine weaning products like the patch, gum, lozenge, spray, or inhaler. 

You'd think that government researchers would be heavily engaged in studying "their" method of quitting and "their" secrets.  You'd think that they'd be developing websites to service the cessation needs of the 80-90% of all new quitters who they know are today engaged in a cold turkey quitting experience.  You'd think that their sites would have warnings to protect cold turkey quitters from pharmaceutical grade nicotine relapse. You'd think that government and major health non-profits would have lots of articles on how to take the mystery and cold out of quitting cold.

Sadly, it simply isn't happening.  The pharmaceutical industry is making billions selling nicotine to nicotine addicts, their sphere of influence extends beyond your wildest imagination and they know that the only way to continue to increase market share and profits is by continuing their campaign to destroy the credibility of earth's most productive means of quitting - abrupt nicotine cessation.

John R. Polito, Nicotine Cessation Educator

Title: Re: It Is Time
Post by: BrianG on October 17, 2018, 05:02:29 PM

man i'll splain this simple like. it aint your nic level you got to worry bout. its your commitment level. the nic bitch is gonna be in your head for ever now. you need to 1 disside your gonna whip her ass and 2-have a plan when the craves come else your gonna have more lame ass ascuses. until you disside to do that your gonna be big tabaccos little bitch and shes gonna fuck you up the ass for the rest a your life.   Syndrome-talking to a 2000 day plus caver

Title: Re: It Is Time
Post by: BrianG on October 17, 2018, 05:04:54 PM

Dear Chairman of UST,
Dear douchetard dillhole

Just a quick note to thank you for making such a fine product.I have enjoyed skoal since I was 14.I think it's the best.
Just a quick note to say fuck you, you death dealing fuckbag. Thanks for hooking me on a substance thats more addicting than heroin when I was a fucking child.I have been a slave to nicotine for 23 years. I think a product that kills you when you use it properly is insane.

I can fondly remember all your advertising with many great athletes " a pinch is all it takes" and now I am excited to be part of the Skoal Brotherhood
a pinch is all it took to get me to lie to my parents, wife, kids, destroy relationships, ruin my health, begin killing myself. Thank God I found this site and these guys at Kill the Can to support me in kicking this horrid addiction.

Skoal has been with me through thick and thin and always helped me out when I needed it.
Skoal had raised my blood pressure to unsafe levels and I had to chew two damn cans a day just to attempt to feel ok. Now that I quit I feel better than I ever did when I chewed. Skoal was good for nothing but keeping me addicted to Skoal

I especially appreciate the recent discounts on dip and all the great new flavors
Smoking is getting pushed out and your making a marketing play that dip is a safer alternative than cigarettes. Nevermind the fact that the nicotine level in a can of chew is the equivilent of 60 smokes. You even drop the price and run multiple can specials to create addicts quicker than ever. Peach and berry dip, who are you kidding? those flavors are to hook children and women. Your a absolute shit bag. You sell fruit and mint flavored cancer.

I am sure that you will have continued success with your fine brand of smokeless and wish you the best of luck
You can take your little copperheaded fuck buckets of cancer and shove em up your ass so far that you can pack em with your tonsils. I hope you can sleep at night knowing your product kills more people than almost anything in the world. I wish the worst thing in the world upon you and your cohorts... I hope you become as addicted to this shit as I was. I am free now, I no longer pay daily dues to UST, I no longer kill myself each day, I no longer hide cheat and lie to satisfy my addiction, I am a man of my word now..... I am quit

Best Regards
I hope you go bankrupt and die you miserable cocksuckers, if I ever meet you I will punch you in the junk and feed you to a shark, but only one slice at a time,8000 plus slices for each day that I dipped. I hope it hurts.


Skoal Monster

Title: Re: It Is Time
Post by: BrianG on October 17, 2018, 05:07:31 PM

Hey Guest,

I see you there, reading, surfing the site. Sitting at the computer.... you have a dip in right now I bet. Ironic that you choose to chew while researching how to quit. Except, for you its not a choice anymore is it? You have to have it. If its late enough and you dipped alot today I bet you packed it in your upper lip. Lower lip hurts too much. Maybe your just keeping it away from that one sore spot that has been bothering you. Scared? ashamed? sick of being a slave to a habit thats killing you? Aren't you tired of being sick and tired? This time will be different, if you take the steps to commit to this program and follow in the path of those that walked this way before you, you will be quit. Choose to save your own life. Isn't that why your here.
Is it cancer? It will be, dip will kill you if you just give it enough time. How much more time do you think you have anyhow? A year? a lifetime? one can? Maybe one dip. Thats right, the very next dip could be the one that kills you. Seriously, how many chances to dodge cancer do you think your going get?
I can say very confidently, that you are not the biggest addict ever to walk this way. I had almost given up on ever quitting, Thankfully I stumbled in here 205 days ago and now I am quit. Trust me as a fellow dipper who stuffed skoal in my face for 23 yrs and two cans a day. If I can quit so can you.
So stop lurking and start posting, Fnd your quit group and post up a day one. Stop being a guest and start being a quitter.

Skoal Monster

Title: Re: It Is Time
Post by: BrianG on October 17, 2018, 05:14:03 PM

This was one of those post I read early on that made me think I can do this.  All I have to do is take tobacco off the table.  No matter how bad it gets, tobacco will never be the answer.  It really is that easy.
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I keep seeing posts where quitters are frustrated that they still have urges to dip or smoke. Some after a month, some after many hundreds of days. Maybe time ultimately erases that, I don't really know. The thing is when you have truly embraced your decision to quit, craves or urges become irrelevant. It's said over and over here that "dip is no longer an option". When you live that philosophy your quit becomes simple, easy even. If I know in my heart that I will never chew or smoke again, then I never consider it as a remedy,a pass time, crutch, etc. It is no longer on the table as a possibility in my mind. I have urges to dip all the time, they are no worse or better than my day one. The difference is I own them now. They have no power over me and I can brush them off with ease.

The destination and the journey are the same thing here. Quit is your destination, staying quit is the journey, you have already arrived my friend. Stop complaining about the potholes in your path, walk around them. Stop looking over your shoulder , there is nothing back there that you want. If there was you never would have left. Embrace your quit and there will not be any force of nature or mind that can move you from it.

SM

Title: Re: It Is Time
Post by: BrianG on October 17, 2018, 05:23:23 PM

You most likely won't like what you hear when it is not so quietly explained to you that your full of shit. Addicts lie, to others, but mostly to themselves. What makes KTC work is the wisdom of large groups. When you participate here you open yourself up so the collection of misfits saints and fellow addicts can gain access to your mind. If your off target someone WILL point it out. Others will agree or disagree. If the whole collection of tards decides your a dumb ass, well then you better just buy the T-shirt because you are in fact a dumb ass. Question is what will you do with that info?

I got mad and wanted to leave. I realized I didn't have a choice but to stay. When I stayed long enough I realized that I was wrong about the issue, I was in fact a dumb ass. I realized why I had never been successful before, and I realized how to quit. I'm still learning, but I walk down the center of the hallway and don't check locks anymore to see if doors might be open. I'm going to keep whistling dixie and walking down the middle one day at a time. Follow the foot steps and listen to the group, if you can't hear anything, sing out,We'll answer. its like an echo that only comes back with honesty.

skoal Monster

Title: Re: It Is Time
Post by: BrianG on October 17, 2018, 05:27:16 PM

ONE TRUTH

One small detail that has made all the difference. I remember dipping and wanting to quit. I mean REALLY wanting to quit. Fear of cancer wanting to quit, pray to God wanting to quit, try anything wanting to quit. Wife crying begging me to quit, kids spitting on the ground to be like Daddy wanting to quit.

I'd feel the desire to quit and remember previous attempts. A day, a week, 6 months. I would laugh at myself because I was so stupid. How could I hate something having so much power over me, get free of it, then forget I hated it, miss it , go back, and restart the cycle.
'bang head'

A promise to myself.
No matter what happened, if I could ever break free again, I would remember how bad I wanted to quit. I lose the fear of addiction from time to time, I tell myself secrets about a dip or a smoke , I forget alot of the struggle to get here, But I clearly remember my promise made in a moment of clarity. If I could want to free myself of something so bad when I had it, then I know that wanting it when I have successfully gained my freedom is addiction and not truth. The simple memory of my desire to stop works on all my lies like a shield.

Hold onto something, your reason for quitting, the emotion behind it. Write it down. There may come a day where you forget your an addict, a day where you think one won't hurt, a day where you believe you can quit again at will. On that day you will need to remember how bad you wished you never tried it, how hard it was to gather the strength to quit, how much you hated the control it had on you, how much you wished , prayed, begged, and pleaded to get quit. If you can tap into that you'll never look back, no matter what your inner addict whispers in your ear.

sm

Title: Re: It Is Time
Post by: BrianG on October 17, 2018, 05:31:34 PM

I was one of those guys who answered yes early on.  I probably would dip again.  Today, Day 638 free of nicotine,  I see it the same as Greg did.


Greg5280

Would I dip again ?

I have seen this question posted in different areas off and on and it gets me to thinking. Would I ever dip again knowing what I know now?

I have played different scenarios in my head during my quit, and thought would any of these be permissible to allow me to dip again? It is funny to me that I actually spent all this time thinking about this stuff, maybe I need another hobby. Below are some of the things that have passed through my mind on the subject.

1. The terminal illness – This is the one that has to be the easiest to answer right? If I get a terminal illness and was going to die anyway well why not add dipping back to the equation, I mean I am dying anyway so why not?

2. Some terrible tragedy – pick one. Life gives you many to choose from. For me the one that kept playing in my head was something to do with losing my family thus rendering my desire to remain quit or alive a null point. So pack one?

3. The end of the world - If I knew the end of the world was at hand would I run to the store and get a can. This one for me was some nuclear attack from N. Korea or something like that. I knew I had time before the end so why not run to the store and grab a can. Who would it hurt? It would all be over in an hour anyway.

There are others but I think you get the point, so let’s get to the answer. Would I dip again knowing what I know now for any of the reasons listed above, or for any other reason?

Well my answer to that question today is different than it was at the beginning of my quit. I used to think if any of the above happened I would most certainly run to the store and buy a can. What possible difference could it make? I have fought long and hard and if the end was coming why not face it with a fatty? Today I will tell you there is no fucking way I would ever put a dip back in my face. Even if I knew I would die in an hour and could have one I would not do it.

I have learned far too much about tobacco/nicotine and the fuckers that produce/ sell it. How they researched their product and chemically enhanced it to make me/you more dependent on it. How they target our children and hope to hook them too. I have developed a seething hatred for everything their miserable fucking company/product represents.

They have poisoned my family members, me, you, and are looking for more lifelong addicts so they can add to their bottom line. They do not give a shit what their product does to your body or your family. They sell poison on a daily basis to millions and are thinking of creative ways to expand their client base.

Would I ever dip again… FUCK NO !! I will set my money on fire before I give one more cent to those death dealers.

Newbies: Get over the illusion that you miss this shit, or need it,  you do not. You did not like it, it was not fun, it did not help anything. You were addicted to a chemically enhanced super drug. Quit romanticizing it and look at it with open eyes. Develop a hatred for it, the people that make and sell it, and it will make it much easier for you to remain quit.

Title: Re: It Is Time
Post by: BrianG on October 17, 2018, 05:43:51 PM

BrianG --

Day 36 Quit.

So, after 36 days on this site, you start to figure a few things out. In no particular order...

1. I need this site. There is no way I make it to day 36 without KTC. I have said that I do not understand it. I do not need to understand it. It just works. I make a promise each day not to use tobacco to a bunch of people I do not know. I have made that same promise to my wife, my kids, family and friends. I have broken that promise every time to them. I have broken that promise so often, my wife just kinda nodded her head when I said I have finally quit this time...I found a website! ya, a website is going to save me... Again, it just works.

2. You will find the best reading material on this site. It is almost like somebody is writing your life story and you found it on the internet. I really thought some of the experiences that I had with dipping were mine alone. Turns out, I am just another tool who thought dipping was cool or I am not alone in being scared that i will get cancer. Some of the writings on this site are just master pieces, capturing exactly what I was trying to express in my own quit. I have literally cried reading some of the post just because of how close to home they have hit. I have a lot of reading still to do, but I encourage everyone to take some time and read. You will find someone that you can relate to.

3. Getting Digits. This one through me a little bit. First few days, I got some PMs giving me their number and asking for mine. I stared at the screen a little bit and thought this cant be a good idea. I just went and looked at the names. Miker0351 was the first and I noticed, that I did not send my number back to him. I will do that after this post. What I have found out is this is everything on this site. Sure, we post roll everyday, but that is the minimum we can do. building the relationships with others is what it is all about. I finally gave my number to Samrs. Best move I ever made. it broke the ice. Sam and i texted some and then he called me. It was not long before I was giving my number out like a lawyer in a hospital. I text somebody on my list everyday. I have had great phone conversations with people. I am still collecting digits as often as I can. It personalizes the promise to not use tobacco today. When i make that promise, I am thinking of Sam and the rest of April.

4. Quitters are going to find a way to quit and cavers are going to find a way to cave (30yrAddict). My group in April currently has around 65 people posting roll. I am one of the youngest quits at 36 days and the oldest has about 55 days. We have lost around 50-60 people since the April group started. A lot of them were gone before I even got to the group. I assume there were a lot of New Year Resolution guys signing up(We have all been there, right?) Now I have no way of knowing for sure who is going to quit and who is going to cave. There will be surprises both ways. What I do know is that there are people that are doing things that make me believe they will not make it. I have read a lot on this site, A LOT. There is a theme to be found. The people that do more than the minimum of posting roll each day have a better shot of not caving. When you see people who have post totals that equal their days quit, then you know that they are not being active in your group. I cant say that these people will cave, but it does go against the theme of this site. I find it hard to believe that anyone who just post roll and makes no other contributions to the group is going to be here after 100 days. You do not have to read a lot to know that this is not a path for success. My point is, I have learned that people who want to quit get involved with their quit.

5. Everyone on this site is not an asshole. Most people would describe me as a nice guy. I said most... I usually give people the benefit of the doubt when it comes to their intentions. My first few days here, I thought this place was crawling with assholes. I mean that I had to look hard to find a nice guy. Another nice guy and I actually had a back and forth that maybe this site was not for us...Heck, we are nice guys. I thought that I would stick around and see if it got better. Well, it did. I have found that the good guys/gals outnumber the assholes. As I get stronger in my quit, I am starting to realize the ratio is growing each day in favor of the good guys.

Those may be MY top 5 of the things I have learned about my quit and KTC since joining 36 days ago. I am still young in my quit and hope to learn much more from the valuable assets that this site offers.

Title: Re: It Is Time
Post by: BrianG on October 17, 2018, 05:46:18 PM

Ready --

Afternoon my May Brothers!

Should I stay or should I go now,
If I go there will be trouble,
If I stay it will be double.
So you gotta let me knowwwwwwwwwww!
Should I stay or should I go!

This is my opinion based on my own experiences. Some of you have read most of this before from me and others. This is not directed at anyone in particular but is meant to opine upon a general subject which is in the limelight at this stage of most groups.

I've seen this conversation a few times. It's not unusual. There are varying reasons why it gets brought up. I think one of the reasons is because people want to be cured. I get that. Hell, who doesn't want to be cured of such a horrible addiction. And if I'm being honest, you have every right to feel any dam way you want or need.

You guys showed up and did what needed to be done. You fought the hard fight and through this entire shit show of a battle you did it! You won! TODAY. You quit for today. You posted roll today. You gave your word of honor for today.

Then you hit the HOF! That was the goal. You stuck it out and paid the price and you want a reward! I get that. Some think their reward should be that they can slow down and stop fighting! That's not how it works and deep down most know this. But man you can't help but getting the TGIF feeling, can you. I can't deny it, it feels great when you've put in a hard week at work and it's 4:55PM on Friday afternoon. But come Monday where are you going to be? Yep, back at work.

Freedom. That's your reward. You must admit, it is 1000% worth it or you would not be here. And you also must admit that if you were not here, your chances of being quit are reduced considerably.

In the end, you must decide what your freedom is worth to you. Is that fleeting feeling of thinking you have won so you can simply walk away worth the risk of another five, ten or twenty years of being a slave of a can a day? I can't answer that for you.

It will not always be as difficult as the first 100 days. That is the truth. At some point quitting will be quite easy for you for the most part. Sure, there will be bad days. But they will be fewer and farther apart. But you must keep quitting. And you quit by doing what worked. And what worked was posting roll every day and keeping your word. Doing anything different can and does lead to being a slave.

P.S. Your quit is first and foremost. Period. You can't quit for others, they must do the heavy lifting. That's not to say you can't help where you can, but it's not your fault if someone makes a decision contrary to your beliefs.

NAFAR! Whatever it takes.

Title: Re: It Is Time
Post by: BrianG on October 17, 2018, 05:54:38 PM

I was always asking those vet guys if it got better.  Some days I thought it just wasnt worth all the work it took to stay quit.  Quitting is hard work.  I stayed quit because to a person, they all said it gets better.  There were days I thought they were full of shit.  My better came around day 225 or so.  I decided that I was not going to blame my quitting of tobacco for everything that went wrong in my life.  Sometimes we just have bad days.  Since then, life has been pretty good dip free.   In my group, we like to rate our quit from 1-10.  1 being I am headed to the store to buy a can and a 10 is dip, what dip?  At 638 days, I am around a 9.  Seldom do I have a crave or an urge to dip.  When I do, it is easily laughed off.  I put the work in early and now I am in maintenance mode.  I post roll and read how the young quitters are doing.  I realize there is no way in hell I am putting myself through a day 1 again.  rkymtnman was just one of those guys who helped me figure all this out.

rkymtnman wrote:
Been thinking a lot about this whole "it gets better" voodoo that we all parrot over and over. I know I didn't really believe it when I was just past the hall and trudging through the motions trying like hell to stay clean and watching my group lose quitters. Always lead me to think - if it is OK for them, why not me?

I remember another thing I did in these types of situations. Go find some "active", crusty old vet - I'd suggest a guy like Hydro because he is quit friggen YODA - shoot him a pm. Ask him questions about what it is like now. Find these 6, 7, 8 year quitters who are still here every day - though not overly active - and ask them. Don't take my word for it. Ask them what it is like. Ask them if it was all worth it. There HAS to be a reason guys like Hydro and others still post roll like it is their job. We are all pretty busy guys with professional lives and work responsibilities, with families and probably have FAR better things to do than troll internet forums for nic addicts. Yet here we all are - in the same boat.

I bet you'll hear the same story over and over. Take it on faith that shit gets so much fucking better you can't possibly imagine. I sure as shit didn't until one day, I realized it had. I challenge you all to keep the focus on TODAY - every day and everything will get worked out in time. Get rid of the thoughts of "by now, I should feel ______" because I can promise you those expectations will lead to let down. Instead, try "Today I will not use nicotine" and go live your life without thinking about where you think you ought to be at this point. You are exactly where you all should be. There is a reason I hate the hall...sure it is a bad ass benchmark but after that, it is just another +1. My worst days were AFTER the hall. My best days were ahead of me - I just didn't believe it.

Keep the faith brothers. You are all killing it - and winning - it just doesn't feel like it most days. I promise that changes.

Title: Re: It Is Time
Post by: BrianG on October 17, 2018, 06:25:18 PM

BrianG --

I dipped Skoal Fine Cut Wintergreen for 35 years. It was nothing to go through a can a day for me. Today I posted 477 days quit. First I just want to say everyone should quit right now. Cold turkey, never again for any reason. If everyone would quit, that would be great. Saying that, I am writing this so the older guys will read it. The guy who has been dipping for 20+ years. The guy who really doesnt enjoy it as much, but still does it because quitting is tough.

I am sure you are like I was when I would buy a can(s) of dip. I need to quit this stuff, I am tired of it. What a waste of money. Maybe after these cans are gone, then I will quit. You know that as soon as those can(s) were gone, you were back at the store buying more and making those same promises to yourself. I am here to tell you that it is time. Time to do what we all know is the right thing.

If you have dipped this long, then I know you have had that scare multiple times, you know the one. The one where your heart skips a beat because you think you just discovered you have mouth cancer. A new bump in your lip, white patches on your tongue. Some tickle in your throat that seems to not be getting better. These things used to worry me sick. Am I the only one that would grab the flashlight and head to the bathroom mirror and start looking for cancer? Since I have been quit, I dont think that way anymore. Will my 35 years of abusing myself with tobacco cause me issues in the future? I pray not, but I know that I did the right thing in quitting now. No regrets.

If you had the power to see the future and you knew the next dip was the one that would cause the cancer to start growing, would you take that dip? I think most of us would fight like hell and do whatever it took to keep tobacco out of our mouths. Of course we do not have that power, but we do know that at some point, enough is enough. Us 20+ year guys cant be dancing with the devil and not expect something bad to happen. You can read stories of guys with less time than that developing mouth cancer. When I was dipping, no way could I look at pictures of mouth cancer or even read about it. Since quitting, I have allowed myself to view some of these pictures and read about people going through the treatments. Let me tell you, I ain't going out that way...Hell NO. It is just gruesome to read about. You think it will be easier to quit while you are going through chemo treatments? This is real.

You are on a site that helps people quit using nicotine and reading this, so you must agree that you have had enough. Now you are trying to figure out how to do it. First thing is to know that you do not have to do it alone. Knowing that there were guys and gals here going through the exact same thing I was made this doable. I tried on my own and failed. I came here and went all in. I wanted to quit bad. You have to get yourself to that point and then do what it takes. If a vet tells you to post roll everyday, then you post roll everyday with no questions asked. If a vet says you post early in the morning, then you post early in the morning. This site has worked for many people. It will also let you down if you are not committed to being quit. No magic pills here. You have to quit for you and you have to determine that failing is not an option. When you get to that point and you leave the ego at the door, you too can quit this addiction. You can learn what it feels like to truly be free from nicotine. I have had 477 days of my adult life nicotine free and I wish I was smart enough to quit a long time ago. The freedom is so worth it.

Read everything you can on this site. Get your game plan together. Determine that no matter how bad I feel while quitting, tobacco will never be an option again. I can promise you 2 things if you decide to quit. Promise 1, this will be hard. There will be times that you will question yourself. I say this to you, nobody has ever died from quitting tobacco. You can do it! Promise 2, You will not regret quitting. It took me about 225 days or so to really feel good and not think of tobacco. It may be shorter for you or maybe longer, but when you do reach that point, you will never look back with regret. Hopefully you will reach out like I am doing here and try to help the next guy who is trying to figure out how to quit.

Let today be day 1 of your quit...

Title: Re: It Is Time
Post by: BrianG on October 20, 2018, 04:54:03 PM

So nealkirby21 posted this on Tuesday.  Here it is Saturday.  Take a guess what happened.  Ya, this guy has not been back since.  This was his one post to KTC.  Look, the addict mind is a terrible thing.  We have all been there.  Making that promise to ourselves and deep down we know we are lying to ourselves.  You have to decide if you want it or not.  I have seen this introduction a 100 times.  Rarely does it work out.  Here are the steps...
1. Sign up
2. Post roll and make your promise not to use nicotine in any form today.
3. Fight like hell to keep your promise for today.
4. Exchange numbers and start building those relationships that will keep you held accountable.
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Hey everyone,

Just wanted to introduce myself. My name is Neal and I am 30 years old. I've been using smokeless tobacco for 10 years. I have been reading everything I can on the KTC website and tomorrow will be my first official day without any tobacco.

I am doing this for myself, not for anyone. I am into fitness and own my own company that is fitness related, so tobacco does not fit into my lifestyle. Plus I want to feel healthier overall. I have noticed my gums have pushed back a decent bit.

Financially i want to save the cash and invest it into my future instead of wasting it. I quit about a year ago when I went to Thailand for three weeks, but that was because they did not have tobacco there. I should have just stuck with it and my fiancee was pushing me to, but it wasnt my choice and I was not ready to be honest... I did not want to.

Now I want to and wanted to thank everyone for sharing their stories. I know I am in for a long road, but I am looking forward to discussing everything with you all and getting through this.

Thanks everyone!

Title: Re: It Is Time
Post by: BrianG on January 17, 2019, 10:40:16 AM

2 years ago today I posted my day 1 in April 17 with the Underdogs after using tobacco for
35 years.  The title of Underdog was a good one for me because the odds of me quitting for
good were slim.  It took everything I had to get through that first week.  This quitting
stuff isnt easy.  Finding KTC saved my life as far as I am concerned.  The program here works.
I dove in a drank the kool aid, became active in my group and went out and met other quitters
face to face.  These things are what have gotten me to the 2 year mark.  Compared to the first
100 days, I am doing excellent.  The farther we get away from day 1, the better it is.  I post
this here so that my fellow April quitters will know that it is possible to get control of a
35 year addiction and to live without tobacco.  Get involved, post roll EVERYDAY and try
to meet your fellow quitters face to face.  If you do those things, I have no doubt that you
too will be quit for life.  Thanks for all the support and quit on!!

Title: Re: It Is Time
Post by: chris2alaska on January 17, 2019, 10:42:55 AM

Quote from: BrianG on January 17, 2019, 10:40:16 AM

2 years ago today I posted my day 1 in April 17 with the Underdogs after using tobacco for
35 years.  The title of Underdog was a good one for me because the odds of me quitting for
good were slim.  It took everything I had to get through that first week.  This quitting
stuff isnt easy.  Finding KTC saved my life as far as I am concerned.  The program here works.
I dove in a drank the kool aid, became active in my group and went out and met other quitters
face to face.  These things are what have gotten me to the 2 year mark.  Compared to the first
100 days, I am doing excellent.  The farther we get away from day 1, the better it is.  I post
this here so that my fellow April quitters will know that it is possible to get control of a
35 year addiction and to live without tobacco.  Get involved, post roll EVERYDAY and try
to meet your fellow quitters face to face.  If you do those things, I have no doubt that you
too will be quit for life.  Thanks for all the support and quit on!!

Proud to share the anniversary date with you BG

chris2alaska 365

Title: It is Time
Post by: BrianG on January 19, 2017, 04:12:00 PM

It is time. Everything has a time and my time with dipping has come to an end. I have dipped for 35 years+. I messed around with tobacco at a very young age and by the time I was 15 it was an everyday habit. I can remember when a can of skoal fine cut could be bought for 40 cents. If only it was $5+ back then, I would have never started.
It is time. I turned 50 a few weeks back. I dont care about the number as far as age goes, I know I can still hang. I care about the number only as it pertains to my tobacco addiction. It puts the light on a 35 year habit. I said I would never go past 20 years...well, never past 25 years....well 30 years will be time to quit. I have done very little to keep it from becoming 40 years. It is Time.
It is time to keep the promise to my 16 year old daughter that I made many years ago. Daddy will quit for you. She does not know of this at this point, but I will let her know that I finally quit lying to her.
It is time to put the poison down and get on with my life. My wife and I have made plans over the years of how we will live our retirement years. Not fair to her for me to be playing Russian roulette with my life.
It is time

BrianG

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: eyehatecope on January 19, 2017, 04:16:00 PM

Proud to see you in here BrianG.......

Have you posted roll yet?

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: KennyZ on January 19, 2017, 04:17:00 PM

Welcome! Jump on in, the quitting is fine here.

Advice:
Post in your group daily, first thing in the morning. That will take nicotine off the table for the rest of the day.
Swap numbers with your quit brothers. Use the numbers to hold each other accountable.
Get involved and make connections.

I quit with you!

KennyZ
Day 800

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: eyehatecope on January 19, 2017, 04:17:00 PM

Do you need help posting roll?

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: BrianG on January 19, 2017, 04:25:00 PM

I posted roll this morning. Not sure I did it correctly...Well, actually I was told I didnt. Found a link that shows how to do it. Will try again tomorrow.

Thanks guys

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: Bean on January 20, 2017, 10:00:00 AM

Quote from: BrianG

I posted roll this morning. Not sure I did it correctly...Well, actually I was told I didnt. Found a link that shows how to do it. Will try again tomorrow.

Thanks guys

If you're here, you're doing something right. Post roll, keep your word and live free. I used to pick quit dates too...college graduation, first real job, New Years Day, birthdays, wedding, birth of first kid, birth of second kid, etc. I actually would rationalize that it was okay to keep on dipping because I would be quitting soon anyway, right? Holy shit, I was stupid.

But I'm quit now. I was determined to quit for a long time. Stopped many times...then caved. The only thing that is different now is that I found this site. They people on here actually understand controlling addiction through mutual accountability. I posted roll today. I can guaran-fucking-tee you I will not have anything to do with nicotine today. And we're expecting you to do the same. We're counting on you.

I used to cave because I didn't honestly believe that I could quit. I told myself I could. But I always caved. I'm here to tell you that YOU CAN DO THIS. Click around in the Quit Groups...not just your own group, but other months and years. Then think...all of those names are people who have been right where you are right now. And they are living free ONE DAY AT A TIME.

Nobody can do this for you. It doesn't matter who you are or where you come from. Nobody gets freedom for the asking. WE EARN IT...ONE DAY AT A TIME. Don't think about tomorrow, next week, next year. We'll deal with them when they get here. POST ROLL, GIVE YOUR WORD and FIGHT LIKE HELL TO KEEP IT ALL DAY.

YOU GOT THIS!

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: LMM on January 20, 2017, 05:09:00 PM

Quote from: Bean

Quote from: BrianG

I posted roll this morning. Not sure I did it correctly...Well, actually I was told I didnt. Found a link that shows how to do it. Will try again tomorrow.

Thanks guys

If you're here, you're doing something right. Post roll, keep your word and live free. I used to pick quit dates too...college graduation, first real job, New Years Day, birthdays, wedding, birth of first kid, birth of second kid, etc. I actually would rationalize that it was okay to keep on dipping because I would be quitting soon anyway, right? Holy shit, I was stupid.

But I'm quit now. I was determined to quit for a long time. Stopped many times...then caved. The only thing that is different now is that I found this site. They people on here actually understand controlling addiction through mutual accountability. I posted roll today. I can guaran-fucking-tee you I will not have anything to do with nicotine today. And we're expecting you to do the same. We're counting on you.

I used to cave because I didn't honestly believe that I could quit. I told myself I could. But I always caved. I'm here to tell you that YOU CAN DO THIS. Click around in the Quit Groups...not just your own group, but other months and years. Then think...all of those names are people who have been right where you are right now. And they are living free ONE DAY AT A TIME.

Nobody can do this for you. It doesn't matter who you are or where you come from. Nobody gets freedom for the asking. WE EARN IT...ONE DAY AT A TIME. Don't think about tomorrow, next week, next year. We'll deal with them when they get here. POST ROLL, GIVE YOUR WORD and FIGHT LIKE HELL TO KEEP IT ALL DAY.

YOU GOT THIS!

Brian, I suggest spending as much time as you can on this site, at least for the next few weeks. You will need motivation and such to strengthen your resolve, and you'll get it by reading HOF speeches, Introduction threads, etc. It will help immensely.

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: Atown on January 20, 2017, 07:58:00 PM

Quote from: LMM

Quote from: Bean

Quote from: BrianG

I posted roll this morning. Not sure I did it correctly...Well, actually I was told I didnt. Found a link that shows how to do it. Will try again tomorrow.

Thanks guys

If you're here, you're doing something right. Post roll, keep your word and live free. I used to pick quit dates too...college graduation, first real job, New Years Day, birthdays, wedding, birth of first kid, birth of second kid, etc. I actually would rationalize that it was okay to keep on dipping because I would be quitting soon anyway, right? Holy shit, I was stupid.

But I'm quit now. I was determined to quit for a long time. Stopped many times...then caved. The only thing that is different now is that I found this site. They people on here actually understand controlling addiction through mutual accountability. I posted roll today. I can guaran-fucking-tee you I will not have anything to do with nicotine today. And we're expecting you to do the same. We're counting on you.

I used to cave because I didn't honestly believe that I could quit. I told myself I could. But I always caved. I'm here to tell you that YOU CAN DO THIS. Click around in the Quit Groups...not just your own group, but other months and years. Then think...all of those names are people who have been right where you are right now. And they are living free ONE DAY AT A TIME.

Nobody can do this for you. It doesn't matter who you are or where you come from. Nobody gets freedom for the asking. WE EARN IT...ONE DAY AT A TIME. Don't think about tomorrow, next week, next year. We'll deal with them when they get here. POST ROLL, GIVE YOUR WORD and FIGHT LIKE HELL TO KEEP IT ALL DAY.

YOU GOT THIS!

Brian, I suggest spending as much time as you can on this site, at least for the next few weeks. You will need motivation and such to strengthen your resolve, and you'll get it by reading HOF speeches, Introduction threads, etc. It will help immensely.

What they said ^^^^^^^. We will both be writing speeches in April brother if we fight, and follow the blueprint here. PM me if you want my digits. The accountability is key.

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: BrianG on January 21, 2017, 10:52:00 PM

Going to use this introduction for my own ramblings. Feel free to comment on it, but know that from this point on, this thread is to help me vent and ramble. May be fun in a years time to look back to see where i was.

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: BrianG on January 21, 2017, 11:00:00 PM

Day 4 today. Tough day at times. Woke up feeling pretty good. Posted roll and did my thing. As usual, worse time is after eating. Ate lunch and wanted a dip pretty bad. I am using the fake stuff, so I put some of that in. Basically it tricks me for a little bit, but then I realize The nicotine is not there. I add more thinking this will help//It doesnt. By the time I spit the fake chew out, I have a huge dip of it since I keep adding to it thinking I just need more to get that nicotine feel. Quite stupid actually. Anyway, I am so restless after lunch, I decide to mow the yard...Yes, in January. F all the people who drove by and stared at me like I was crazy. I am having a nicotine fit here and this is what I do to knock that bitch out...Dont judge me!

Going to go and have another fake chew, hoping for a better day 5.

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: Frobozz on January 22, 2017, 02:01:00 AM

Quote from: BrianG

Day 4 today. Tough day at times. Woke up feeling pretty good. Posted roll and did my thing. As usual, worse time is after eating. Ate lunch and wanted a dip pretty bad. I am using the fake stuff, so I put some of that in. Basically it tricks me for a little bit, but then I realize The nicotine is not there. I add more thinking this will help//It doesnt. By the time I spit the fake chew out, I have a huge dip of it since I keep adding to it thinking I just need more to get that nicotine feel. Quite stupid actually. Anyway, I am so restless after lunch, I decide to mow the yard...Yes, in January. F all the people who drove by and stared at me like I was crazy. I am having a nicotine fit here and this is what I do to knock that bitch out...Dont judge me!

Going to go and have another fake chew, hoping for a better day 5.

Brian,

You appear to be doing quite well. But...mowing the lawn in January? Really? I mean, if you needed to do that in order to stay off nicotine, then fair enough. However, I can't say I blame the people who stared at you. I would have done the same.

I prefer online flash games when I'm at home and quirky little cell phone games for when I'm away. But that's just me.

Be well.

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: Banjosteve on January 22, 2017, 08:28:00 AM

Quote from: Frobozz

Quote from: BrianG

Day 4 today. Tough day at times. Woke up feeling pretty good. Posted roll and did my thing. As usual, worse time is after eating. Ate lunch and wanted a dip pretty bad. I am using the fake stuff, so I put some of that in. Basically it tricks me for a little bit, but then I realize The nicotine is not there. I add more thinking this will help//It doesnt. By the time I spit the fake chew out, I have a huge dip of it since I keep adding to it thinking I just need more to get that nicotine feel. Quite stupid actually. Anyway, I am so restless after lunch, I decide to mow the yard...Yes, in January. F all the people who drove by and stared at me like I was crazy. I am having a nicotine fit here and this is what I do to knock that bitch out...Dont judge me!

Going to go and have another fake chew, hoping for a better day 5.

Brian,

You appear to be doing quite well. But...mowing the lawn in January? Really? I mean, if you needed to do that in order to stay off nicotine, then fair enough. However, I can't say I blame the people who stared at you. I would have done the same.

I prefer online flash games when I'm at home and quirky little cell phone games for when I'm away. But that's just me.

Be well.

Stay strong Brian. Do whatever it takes to stay quit. Mow the lawn wearing your wife's bra and panties if you have to. chew as much fake dip as you want. At day 5, the nic is about out of your system.

You got this, you are winning.

Quit with you bro,

Banjo

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: JB65 on January 22, 2017, 11:50:00 AM

Quote from: banjosteve

Quote from: Frobozz

Quote from: BrianG

Day 4 today. Tough day at times. Woke up feeling pretty good. Posted roll and did my thing. As usual, worse time is after eating. Ate lunch and wanted a dip pretty bad. I am using the fake stuff, so I put some of that in. Basically it tricks me for a little bit, but then I realize The nicotine is not there. I add more thinking this will help//It doesnt. By the time I spit the fake chew out, I have a huge dip of it since I keep adding to it thinking I just need more to get that nicotine feel. Quite stupid actually. Anyway, I am so restless after lunch, I decide to mow the yard...Yes, in January. F all the people who drove by and stared at me like I was crazy. I am having a nicotine fit here and this is what I do to knock that bitch out...Dont judge me!

Going to go and have another fake chew, hoping for a better day 5.

Brian,

You appear to be doing quite well. But...mowing the lawn in January? Really? I mean, if you needed to do that in order to stay off nicotine, then fair enough. However, I can't say I blame the people who stared at you. I would have done the same.

I prefer online flash games when I'm at home and quirky little cell phone games for when I'm away. But that's just me.

Be well.

Stay strong Brian. Do whatever it takes to stay quit. Mow the lawn wearing your wife's bra and panties if you have to. chew as much fake dip as you want. At day 5, the nic is about out of your system.

You got this, you are winning.

Quit with you bro,

Banjo

Believe it or not, you'll probably dump the fake chew soon too.

Its all the mind game at this point for you. It may last intense like this another week, another day or another 2 weeks... but it will subside.

This helped me: google pics of mouth cancer from tobacco... print one out, keep in in you wallet next to your money. Still have mine there 524 days later

Have you tried the live chat here? It wasnt my thing, but many people swear by it.

I took more walks in the first 2 weeks than i did for 10 years. Dove into a 90x3 program, whatever it took. you got this bro.

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: BrianG on January 23, 2017, 12:20:00 AM

Day 5 -- Made it through the weekend. Was worried about this, but it was not bad. Day 5 had some moments where I didnt think about dipping, but they were few. Looking forward to getting a full week under my belt.

It was told to me that you cant undo a 35 year addiction in a few days. I need to hear those words.

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: JGlav on January 23, 2017, 07:26:00 AM

Quote from: BrianG

Day 5 -- Made it through the weekend. Was worried about this, but it was not bad. Day 5 had some moments where I didnt think about dipping, but they were few. Looking forward to getting a full week under my belt.

It was told to me that you cant undo a 35 year addiction in a few days. I need to hear those words.

One day at a time. Trust me if I can do this you can. Freddom from this crap is soooo worth it. Continiue to post roll early with your promise and expand your acountability
with others in your group. Great job.

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: BrianG on January 24, 2017, 01:00:00 AM

Day 6. Probably the toughest day I have had. after lunch, the craving was very strong. Thanks to my support group for being there. pretty much the entire afternoon was wasted because I had one thing on my mind. Came home and went out and ran a 5k. That helped. hard to think of any thing else when you are trying to breath. I need to do some exercise anyway since I have been eating a lot.

I have to have faith that it gets better. 7 days tomorrow....

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: Gone Cruising on January 24, 2017, 02:23:00 AM

Doing great man!!! It does end, but it takes a while. I feel you on the years dipping, mine was 31 years. Your brain will just need to re-train itself to be without nicotine in all aspects of life. You can be winning and be at day 400 like me, you just need will power to power through it! It's going to be the toughest thing you have ever done in your life, but you can do it!

To take the edge off I turned to two all natural supplements, one was Natures Way Melissa (Lemon Balm) and a natural green tea extract (L-Theanine) or as most people say "natures Xanax". Both are herbal supplements and it really helped me with taking the edge off and cravings, not to mention the increase in anxiety I felt. Both can be found at any Vitamin shop. None are addicting....

Hope this helps and reach out if you need anything!

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: BrianG on January 24, 2017, 11:54:00 PM

As bad as yesterday was, today was probably my best day. I really felt in control and was able to work off the cravings that popped up. My worse times are first thing in the morning and after lunch. Brutal times. I liked to dip so much, that I would not even eat breakfast. First thing I would do is brush my teeth and then put a dip in so I could have it for the shower. That dip would last until lunch most days with an additional pinch to keep it fresh. Eat lunch and then load up again after lunch. Depending on the schedule, may have 2 or 3 dips before dinner, but you can guarantee that i had a dip in all afternoon. normally 2 more dips between after dinner and bed time.

Good news is I have gotten my first week behind me. I am by no means home free, but I do have hope. Today had a few wake ups for me. people with many more days than me caved today. I feel bad for them, but this is my quit. I cant go back. I wont go back...

WEEK 1 DONE
'oh yeah'

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: BrianG on January 27, 2017, 11:05:00 AM

Day 10 and feeling good. Still working through some physical stuff. I have this weird feeling that is hard to explain. kind of a numb feeling through out, I guess it is withdrawal, but not sure. Anyways, much better over all.

I am going to make the assumption that some of the people reading this have not joined or have not quit. I urge you all to get it started. Nobody liked dipping more than me. I loved it. I hate that I have to quit it and that it can cause bad things to happen. That pisses me off. But since it can cause problems, the thing to do is quit. The first step is to determine you want to quit and then make it happen. Seek out help. You can ask for it here if need be...

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: Dieselchick87 on January 27, 2017, 12:55:00 PM

Quote from: BrianG

Day 10 and feeling good. Still working through some physical stuff. I have this weird feeling that is hard to explain. kind of a numb feeling through out, I guess it is withdrawal, but not sure. Anyways, much better over all.

I am going to make the assumption that some of the people reading this have not joined or have not quit. I urge you all to get it started. Nobody liked dipping more than me. I loved it. I hate that I have to quit it and that it can cause bad things to happen. That pisses me off. But since it can cause problems, the thing to do is quit. The first step is to determine you want to quit and then make it happen. Seek out help. You can ask for it here if need be...

'oh yeah' Congrats on Double Digits!!! 'oh yeah'

Your body is still trying to figure out how to survive without the poison that you have been feeding it

Keep up the Great Quit!

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: BrianG on January 31, 2017, 06:15:00 PM

Week 2 today. From day 7 until now, I have been doing pretty good. That 'Weird feeling/numb feeling" has for the most part gone away. Still using the fake stuff, but not as much in the last few days. It serves a purpose and plan on using it as long as needed. I have been allowing myself to eat whatever I want for the last 2 weeks. This needs to change now. Will stop using the dip quitting as an excuse to eat like a pig...good by snicker bites and MMs.

Quit on...

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: Ready on January 31, 2017, 06:40:00 PM

Quote from: BrianG

Week 2 today. From day 7 until now, I have been doing pretty good. That 'Weird feeling/numb feeling" has for the most part gone away. Still using the fake stuff, but not as much in the last few days. It serves a purpose and plan on using it as long as needed. I have been allowing myself to eat whatever I want for the last 2 weeks. This needs to change now. Will stop using the dip quitting as an excuse to eat like a pig...good by snicker bites and MMs.

Quit on...

I like it. Congrats!

Whatever it takes!

NAFAR!

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: GH27 on January 31, 2017, 09:34:00 PM

Quote from: Ready

Quote from: BrianG

Week 2 today. From day 7 until now, I have been doing pretty good. That 'Weird feeling/numb feeling" has for the most part gone away. Still using the fake stuff, but not as much in the last few days. It serves a purpose and plan on using it as long as needed. I have been allowing myself to eat whatever I want for the last 2 weeks. This needs to change now. Will stop using the dip quitting as an excuse to eat like a pig...good by snicker bites and MMs.

Quit on...

I like it. Congrats!

Whatever it takes!

NAFAR!

Just getting through my first 24 hours. I have been a long cut addict for over 10 years specifically grizzly wintergreen. Smokey mountain wintergreen has helped with the oral fixation. I am committed to quitting for the first time in 10 years and know I can do it. -gh

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: BrianG on February 11, 2017, 03:08:00 AM

Posted Day 24 today. I have said it a few times today, but this quitting stuff is hard work. It is wearing me out. I have been really tired this week. I feel like the quit is all I think about. Some of the thoughts are good and some bad. I really do not feel like I want to dip, I just feel tired and not my normal self. I think this leads to being easily irritable and frustrated. Over the last week, have really built up my network of people to help and get help from. To me, this is the most important thing. I think you need to find those really close 3 or 4 people to interact with and then branch that out to more people to get different perspectives. I also think it is good to have guys much farther ahead of you in the quit and some behind you.

Well, the quit today was successful and will wake up tomorrow and do it again...

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: BrianG on February 22, 2017, 05:04:00 PM

Day 36 Quit.

So, after 36 days on this site, you start to figure a few things out. In no particular order...

1. I need this site. There is no way I make it to day 36 without KTC. I have said that I do not understand it. I do not need to understand it. It just works. I make a promise each day not to use tobacco to a bunch of people I do not know. I have made that same promise to my wife, my kids, family and friends. I have broken that promise every time to them. I have broken that promise so often, my wife just kinda nodded her head when I said I have finally quit this time...I found a website! ya, a website is going to save me... Again, it just works.

2. You will find the best reading material on this site. It is almost like somebody is writing your life story and you found it on the internet. I really thought some of the experiences that I had with dipping were mine alone. Turns out, I am just another tool who thought dipping was cool or I am not alone in being scared that i will get cancer. Some of the writings on this site are just master pieces, capturing exactly what I was trying to express in my own quit. I have literally cried reading some of the post just because of how close to home they have hit. I have a lot of reading still to do, but I encourage everyone to take some time and read. You will find someone that you can relate to.

3. Getting Digits. This one through me a little bit. First few days, I got some PMs giving me their number and asking for mine. I stared at the screen a little bit and thought this cant be a good idea. I just went and looked at the names. Miker0351 was the first and I noticed, that I did not send my number back to him. I will do that after this post. What I have found out is this is everything on this site. Sure, we post roll everyday, but that is the minimum we can do. building the relationships with others is what it is all about. I finally gave my number to Samrs. Best move I ever made. it broke the ice. Sam and i texted some and then he called me. It was not long before I was giving my number out like a lawyer in a hospital. I text somebody on my list everyday. I have had great phone conversations with people. I am still collecting digits as often as I can. It personalizes the promise to not use tobacco today. When i make that promise, I am thinking of Sam and the rest of April.

4. Quitters are going to find a way to quit and cavers are going to find a way to cave (30yrAddict). My group in April currently has around 65 people posting roll. I am one of the youngest quits at 36 days and the oldest has about 55 days. We have lost around 50-60 people since the April group started. A lot of them were gone before I even got to the group. I assume there were a lot of New Year Resolution guys signing up(We have all been there, right?) Now I have no way of knowing for sure who is going to quit and who is going to cave. There will be surprises both ways. What I do know is that there are people that are doing things that make me believe they will not make it. I have read a lot on this site, A LOT. There is a theme to be found. The people that do more than the minimum of posting roll each day have a better shot of not caving. When you see people who have post totals that equal their days quit, then you know that they are not being active in your group. I cant say that these people will cave, but it does go against the theme of this site. I find it hard to believe that anyone who just post roll and makes no other contributions to the group is going to be here after 100 days. You do not have to read a lot to know that this is not a path for success. My point is, I have learned that people who want to quit get involved with their quit.

5. Everyone on this site is not an asshole. Most people would describe me as a nice guy. I said most... I usually give people the benefit of the doubt when it comes to their intentions. My first few days here, I thought this place was crawling with assholes. I mean that I had to look hard to find a nice guy. Another nice guy and I actually had a back and forth that maybe this site was not for us...Heck, we are nice guys. I thought that I would stick around and see if it got better. Well, it did. I have found that the good guys/gals outnumber the assholes. As I get stronger in my quit, I am starting to realize the ratio is growing each day in favor of the good guys.

Those may be MY top 5 of the things I have learned about my quit and KTC since joining 36 days ago. I am still young in my quit and hope to learn much more from the valuable assets that this site offers.

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: pky1520 on February 22, 2017, 06:18:00 PM

Quote from: BrianG

Day 36 Quit.

So, after 36 days on this site, you start to figure a few things out. In not particular order...

1. I need this site. There is no way I make it to day 36 without KTC. I have said that I do not understand it. I do not need to understand it. It just works. I make a promise each day not to use tobacco to a bunch of people I do not know. I have made that same promise to my wife, my kids, family and friends. I have broken that promise every time to them. I have broken that promise so often, my wife just kinda nodded her head when I said I have finally quit this time...I found a website! ya, a website is going to save me... Again, it just works.

2. You will find the best reading material on this site. It is almost like somebody is writing your life story and you found it on the internet. I really thought some of the experiences that I had with dipping were mine alone. Turns out, I am just another tool who thought dipping was cool or I am not alone in being scared that i will get cancer. Some of the writings on this site are just master pieces, capturing exactly what I was trying to express in my own quit. I have literally cried reading some of the post just because of how close to home they have hit. I have a lot of reading still to do, but I encourage everyone to take some time and read. You will find someone that you can relate to.

3. Getting Digits. This one through me a little bit. First few days, I got some PMs giving me their number and asking for mine. I stared at the screen a little bit and thought this cant be a good idea. I just went and looked at the names. Miker0351 was the first and I noticed, that I did not send my number back to him. I will do that after this post. What I have found out is this is everything on this site. Sure, we post roll everyday, but that is the minimum we can do. building the relationships with others is what it is all about. I finally gave my number to Samrs. Best move I ever made. it broke the ice. Sam and i texted some and then he called me. It was not long before I was giving my number out like a lawyer in a hospital. I text somebody on my list everyday. I have had great phone conversations with people. I am still collecting digits as often as I can. It personalizes the promise to not use tobacco today. When i make that promise, I am thinking of Sam and the rest of April.

4. Quitters are going to find a way to quit and cavers are going to find a way to cave (30yrAddict). My group in April currently has around 65 people posting roll. I am one of the youngest quits at 36 days and the oldest has about 55 days. We have lost around 50-60 people since the April group started. A lot of them were gone before I even got to the group. I assume there were a lot of New Year Resolution guys signing up(We have all been there, right?) Now I have no way of knowing for sure who is going to quit and who is going to cave. There will be surprises both ways. What I do know is that there are people that are doing things that make me believe they will not make it. I have read a lot on this site, A LOT. There is a theme to be found. The people that do more than the minimum of posting roll each day have a better shot of not caving. When you see people who have post totals that equal their days quit, then you know that they are not being active in your group. I cant say that these people will cave, but it does go against the theme of this site. I find it hard to believe that anyone who just post roll and makes no other contributions to the group is going to be here after 100 days. You do not have to read a lot to know that this is not a path for success. My point is, I have learned that people who want to quit get involved with their quit.

5. Everyone on this site is not an asshole. Most people would describe me as a nice guy. I said most... I usually give people the benefit of the doubt when it comes to their intentions. My first few days here, I thought this place was crawling with assholes. I mean that I had to look hard to find a nice guy. Another nice guy and I actually had a back and forth that maybe this site was not for us...Heck, we are nice guys. I thought that I would stick around and see if it got better. Well, it did. I have found that the good guys/gals outnumber the assholes. As I get stronger in my quit, I am starting to realize the ratio is growing each day in favor of the good guys.

Those may be MY top 5 of the things I have learned about my quit and KTC since joining 36 days ago. I am still young in my quit and hope to learn much more from the valuable assets that this site offers.

Awesome observations Brian! You hit the nail on the head with how to succeed here.

Your group will almost certainly shrink before you hit 100, and then again after, but a core group of solid people will stick with you.

You'll learn some new things as you start to add up days, some good some bad. Like reaching out to new quitters can be just as rewarding as your own success, and that the struggle really truly doesn't end at 100 days. But don't worry about that, you'll get there.

Looking forward to seeing you succeed!

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: Ready on February 24, 2017, 11:01:00 AM

Quote from: pky1520

Quote from: BrianG

Day 36 Quit.

So, after 36 days on this site, you start to figure a few things out. In not particular order...

1. I need this site. There is no way I make it to day 36 without KTC. I have said that I do not understand it. I do not need to understand it. It just works. I make a promise each day not to use tobacco to a bunch of people I do not know. I have made that same promise to my wife, my kids, family and friends. I have broken that promise every time to them. I have broken that promise so often, my wife just kinda nodded her head when I said I have finally quit this time...I found a website! ya, a website is going to save me... Again, it just works.

2. You will find the best reading material on this site. It is almost like somebody is writing your life story and you found it on the internet. I really thought some of the experiences that I had with dipping were mine alone. Turns out, I am just another tool who thought dipping was cool or I am not alone in being scared that i will get cancer. Some of the writings on this site are just master pieces, capturing exactly what I was trying to express in my own quit. I have literally cried reading some of the post just because of how close to home they have hit. I have a lot of reading still to do, but I encourage everyone to take some time and read. You will find someone that you can relate to.

3. Getting Digits. This one through me a little bit. First few days, I got some PMs giving me their number and asking for mine. I stared at the screen a little bit and thought this cant be a good idea. I just went and looked at the names. Miker0351 was the first and I noticed, that I did not send my number back to him. I will do that after this post. What I have found out is this is everything on this site. Sure, we post roll everyday, but that is the minimum we can do. building the relationships with others is what it is all about. I finally gave my number to Samrs. Best move I ever made. it broke the ice. Sam and i texted some and then he called me. It was not long before I was giving my number out like a lawyer in a hospital. I text somebody on my list everyday. I have had great phone conversations with people. I am still collecting digits as often as I can. It personalizes the promise to not use tobacco today. When i make that promise, I am thinking of Sam and the rest of April.

4. Quitters are going to find a way to quit and cavers are going to find a way to cave (30yrAddict). My group in April currently has around 65 people posting roll. I am one of the youngest quits at 36 days and the oldest has about 55 days. We have lost around 50-60 people since the April group started. A lot of them were gone before I even got to the group. I assume there were a lot of New Year Resolution guys signing up(We have all been there, right?) Now I have no way of knowing for sure who is going to quit and who is going to cave. There will be surprises both ways. What I do know is that there are people that are doing things that make me believe they will not make it. I have read a lot on this site, A LOT. There is a theme to be found. The people that do more than the minimum of posting roll each day have a better shot of not caving. When you see people who have post totals that equal their days quit, then you know that they are not being active in your group. I cant say that these people will cave, but it does go against the theme of this site. I find it hard to believe that anyone who just post roll and makes no other contributions to the group is going to be here after 100 days. You do not have to read a lot to know that this is not a path for success. My point is, I have learned that people who want to quit get involved with their quit.

5. Everyone on this site is not an asshole. Most people would describe me as a nice guy. I said most... I usually give people the benefit of the doubt when it comes to their intentions. My first few days here, I thought this place was crawling with assholes. I mean that I had to look hard to find a nice guy. Another nice guy and I actually had a back and forth that maybe this site was not for us...Heck, we are nice guys. I thought that I would stick around and see if it got better. Well, it did. I have found that the good guys/gals outnumber the assholes. As I get stronger in my quit, I am starting to realize the ratio is growing each day in favor of the good guys.

Those may be MY top 5 of the things I have learned about my quit and KTC since joining 36 days ago. I am still young in my quit and hope to learn much more from the valuable assets that this site offers.

Awesome observations Brian! You hit the nail on the head with how to succeed here.

Your group will almost certainly shrink before you hit 100, and then again after, but a core group of solid people will stick with you.

You'll learn some new things as you start to add up days, some good some bad. Like reaching out to new quitters can be just as rewarding as your own success, and that the struggle really truly doesn't end at 100 days. But don't worry about that, you'll get there.

Looking forward to seeing you succeed!

This. Is. Simply. Awesome!!!!

Way to reach back and help others!

Well done Sir!

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: BrianG on March 07, 2017, 01:25:00 PM

Quit Day 49.

posted this in my April 2017 group.

Maybe posting will help. Man, I have hit the wall of funk or something. It started Friday, and has just wore me out. I have seen others post about this and kinda thought it would not happen to me. It is not cravings for tobacco, it is the mental fatigue and this just makes me tired. Getting the day 3 fog feeling. I am starting to hate this site and coming here. I type that with a little smile knowing that I have no choice but to come here. I must keep fighting the good fight. I dont know, just putting it out there. Maybe seeing me whine will make me man up and get on with the program....

The quit continues..

********
This is just one of those things that suck about quitting. I cant focus on anything and I am easily distracted. I think it is better today, but not 100% yet. I tried making this post a few days ago and just could not do it. I could not think enough to put my thoughts into words. These last few days just make me thankful that I am that much farther from day 1 and it makes me realize there is more work to do. It is amazing the swings that your mental state can take in a short amount of time. One day you are kicking ass and the next you just want to cry. Anyway, the quit continues...

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: melted1 on March 07, 2017, 03:20:00 PM

Keep up the good fight Brian.

I'm only 218 days into my quit but I can tell you it gets easier.

You are entering the 2nd wave of hell that usually happens between day 45-65. Sounds like yours is early which is a good thing(though it probably doesn't seem that way).

I can tell you I was an irritable mess and my wife was none too happy with me, but once it passes you are going to feel great.

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: scottludwig on March 07, 2017, 07:55:00 PM

He's right about the waves of suck. They come out of nowhere and land on you like a ton of bricks. Your fighting a great fight! You're going to succeed odaat and get through this. It's the only decision that can be made. You're one more day free of the chains. Think about all of the good in your quit and remember this suck when craves sneak into your head. You're Quit today and that's bad ass.

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: pky1520 on March 07, 2017, 09:59:00 PM

To echo what these guys said, this is a stage and a very common one. You're tired of quitting. The early exictement has given way to a depressing lull. Maybe some people who you had connected with have caved and let you down.

This is all normal and I promise that it too will get better and you will feel good about your quit again. I can also promise that there will be more periods of quit fatigue and at times the fight might not seem worth it. But it will be. You have to put one foot in front of the other and keep making  keeping that promise.

You don't have to spent all your time on KTC - if you're exhausted with it, there's no shame in posting  ghosting for a little while (as long as you're still on roll). The support and the community will always be here, as long as you hold up your end of the bargain.

I can tell you that after over 300 days, I've gone through several cycles of fatigue and excitement. But success comes through consistent commitment and maintenance of your quit tools.

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: BrianG on March 08, 2017, 03:13:00 PM

Day 50

Felt good to post day 50 today. The roller coaster that I have been on for the last 50 days has been interesting to say the least.
Thanks to everyone for the support over this time. It means a lot.

The quit continues...

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: BrianG on March 22, 2017, 06:50:00 PM

Day 64

I finally came out of the last funk on day 52 or so. That was a bad week for sure. I found the comments interesting that this is normal. A funk somewhere between 45-65 days. I think that shows what kind of pull nicotine can have on a person. Think about that, 50 days after stopping nicotine, it is still effecting my mental state. Think about that the next time someone says that the tobacco helps me relax. The only thing tobacco does is satisfy your nicotine withdrawal. The withdrawal is what is making you tense. The lies we tell ourselves in order to keep the addiction going. Never Again For Any Reason.

The cool thing is that after the funk was over on day 52 or so, I have felt great. Not good or OK, but GREAT! My head feels clear. I can think. I feel great. I know I am not out of the woods yet as far the Funk is concerned, but I will enjoy this for now.

The Quit Continues.

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: Jubs on March 22, 2017, 10:35:00 PM

Quote from: BrianG

Day 64

I finally came out of the last funk on day 52 or so. That was a bad week for sure. I found the comments interesting that this is normal. A funk somewhere between 45-65 days. I think that shows what kind of pull nicotine can have on a person. Think about that, 50 days after stopping nicotine, it is still effecting my mental state. Think about that the next time someone says that the tobacco helps me relax. The only thing tobacco does is satisfy your nicotine withdrawal. The withdrawal is what is making you tense. The lies we tell ourselves in order to keep the addiction going. Never Again For Any Reason.

The cool thing is that after the funk was over on day 52 or so, I have felt great. Not good or OK, but GREAT! My head feels clear. I can think. I feel great. I know I am not out of the woods yet as far the Funk is concerned, but I will enjoy this for now.

The Quit Continues.

This is great, and I'm glad you're feeling good!

Quote

Think about that the next time someone says that the tobacco helps me relax. The only thing tobacco does is satisfy your nicotine withdrawal. The withdrawal is what is making you tense. The lies we tell ourselves in order to keep the addiction going.

I really liked this, I had never thought of it this way, to be honest.

Congrats on 64 days, that's a great accomplishment. Keep doing what you do, inspiring others, and continue to be a BAQ.

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: Ready on March 23, 2017, 02:54:00 PM

Enjoy the GREAT days, you earned them! Congrats on 64 days quit! Hell, most people can't quit for one afternoon. That makes you a bad ass!

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: conecrusherman on March 23, 2017, 07:43:00 PM

BrianG

Keep up the great work...you probably don't know this but you are a major reason I am still quit....you reached out to me and gave me your digits even though I was not in your group.

I will be forever grateful

Quit on brother!

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: BrianG on March 24, 2017, 12:20:00 AM

Quote from: Conecrusherman

BrianG

Keep up the great work...you probably don't know this but you are a major reason I am still quit....you reached out to me and gave me your digits even though I was not in your group.

I will be forever grateful

Quit on brother!

That support has gone both ways. If all goes right, we will always be 7 days apart in our quit. Quit on brother!!

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: Jubs on March 24, 2017, 08:44:00 AM

Non-quit related, but sort of quit related... I turned off the tv when Arizona went up 6, thinking they had won. I shoulda kept watching...

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: BrianG on April 04, 2017, 01:27:00 PM

Day 77 --11 Weeks

Day 77 and feeling pretty good. Was put to the test yesterday and it went well. Went to opening day baseball game between the Texas Rangers and The Cleveland Indians...Bad guys won. Anyway, lots of friends, food and beer. I drank my share of the beer. My plan was to let a couple guys know about me quitting and just to help me out if they saw like I was up to no good. I brought a can of smokey mountain along just in case. There were some guys around dipping and that was ok. I must have been staring a little too much while one guy put some poison into his mouth because my buddy walked up and asked if he could punch me in the face now. Anyway, it just goes to show that we can still have a good time with friends and a few beers and leave the tobacco alone. Just have a plan before it all starts...Good Win!!

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: DonkeyMN on April 04, 2017, 01:53:00 PM

Good win man! Like you said, it is important to have a plan in place before you go out in those situations... This summer will provide a few more for us all, you got this man!

Give your buddy a slap on the back from me, he did well for ya 'oh yeah'

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: BrianG on April 18, 2017, 02:06:00 PM

Day 91 -- 13 Weeks

Day 91 and feeling OK. Ya, the feeling great has passed. Last week was a week of tough mental games going on in my head.

I posted this on Day 87, In Part...

"Man, My mind has been going to strange places lately. I have tried to keep a positive spin
on my quit for the last week or so, but it is becoming more of a struggle. A few have asked me how
the quit is going and i automatically say fine. If I just stay positive maybe these thoughts
will go away. They are not. That guy that talks inside my head keeps saying things like we did
this quit thing long enough. We should just buy a 1 can and prove that we can quit again after
that. We have a better chance of being killed in a car wreck that getting cancer. We all have
to die from something. These thoughts have been going through my head A LOT lately. I think I
am strong enough in my quit to stay the course, stay quit, but the thoughts are not going away.
I told you all that I took tobacco off the table and it is no longer an option, but that guy
in my head is relentless."

These are the thoughts that have always led to caves in the past. I would talk myself into buying a
can based on these arguments. The difference this time is this site. I have been educated by reading this site
to know that these thoughts will pass. This voice in my head may be there for quite some time. I just have to be
tough enough to ignore him. Having the accountability to these guys is what makes this possible.

The Quit Continues.

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: BrianG on April 18, 2017, 05:30:00 PM

I wrote this on Day 24 of my quit to Robcat's intro who was expressing what I had felt. Wanted to capture it here because I came to realize that I may have been writing it to myself just as much.

****************

Hey Robcat, I come in peace. Read through your intro and I can relate to the anger and rage. I think we all can. I am day 24 of quitting and not going to lie, it sucks. I dipped for 35 years. Came to the conclusion that it was time to be done. Stop dancing with the devil. I am sure that we are similar in that we both have tried to quit before. My experience has not been good. What I have found out over these 24 days is that I need people around my that understand what it is like to give up something that I love doing. Something that has me by the balls and does not want to let go. I need people around me that understand I am pissed...raging anger...and even more pissed that I am not even sure why I am pissed. I have snapped at my wife for no reason at all. Makes me a prick. I have learned how to use the guys in my group to rage on and not my wife. She appreciates that. In order for that to happen for you, I encourage you to get as many phone numbers from people that you can. In the first few days, i did not understand. By day 7, I had 3 or 4 numbers and would text back and forth both good and bad. It helped me get through the days. Now at day 24, I have 16 or 17 numbers in my phone. Some I text everyday. I have texted them all at some point and most have texted me back. I have personally talked to 4 of them on the phone over the last week. Couple times to help me and a couple times to help them. I dont pretend to understand why posting roll every morning helps, but it does. I have 60 something people in my april group that I promise everyday that i will not use tobacco. Again, not sure why, but no way I am going to let them down.

I hope you find in short time that you feel the same way about posting roll. I think I read on here that someone said take what you need and leave the rest(The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down?). I agree. You will find some assholes on this site, no doubt. You will also find some really good guys. I ask you to reach out to some guys and get their number and start building a support group that you feel comfortable with. These will be the guys that help you to keep your promise to stay quit. You just have to ask me and my numbers are yours.

I wish you luck and hope that you quit today and get up and do it again tomorrow....

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: ChickDip on April 27, 2017, 02:17:00 PM

congrats on your HOF day BrianG!
from early on you just "got it" and then did it and quit it.
Not easy but simple.
proud to quit with you today and EDD.
Cheers to 101!


and anyone new or used.... this guy gets it.

topic/30168919/1/#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30168919/1/#new)

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: pky1520 on April 27, 2017, 03:04:00 PM

Quote from: ChickDip

congrats on your HOF day BrianG!
from early on you just "got it" and then did it and quit it.
Not easy but simple.
proud to quit with you today and EDD.
Cheers to 101!


and anyone new or used.... this guy gets it.

topic/30168919/1/#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30168919/1/#new)

Congrats on 100 BrianG! You're killing it buddy!

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: BrianG on April 29, 2017, 05:47:00 PM

We all finally made it to the coveted 100 day mark in our quit. At some point, we all set the goal of ridding ourselves
of tobacco. We are all well on our way of doing just that. We must keep in mind that in reality, we have just started.
We are not at the end of the goal, but we truly are just at the beginning. I like to think of the first 100 days as
the training part of our goal. We were given the knowledge of how to reach our goal. We were tested over these last
100 days. The ones here now passed all those test. We have completed training. Now we are being sent out to apply the
lessons that we learned in these 100 days. Every one of us knows what our limits are. Some can live life normal and
never have a problem again with the temptation of using tobacco. There are others who will struggle for quite sometime
and be tempted to give up on their goal. Make no mistake, there is going to come a time when you are going to be tested
again. It is at these times that we must remember our training. I stated earlier that with our large group of Hall of
Famers, we will likely have at least one guy come back and post a day 1 at some point. Maybe in the next 100 days or
maybe it is much longer. Hopefully we can all reflect on that over the next few days and truly be honest with ourselves--
Is that going to be me? My answer is, I do not know. I have been reflecting on this for some time. Will I fail at some
point? My first response is no, but this is where we have to dig deep and really reflect and be honest...It could be me.
Since I cannot be 100% certain that it can not be me, then I must post roll everyday. I have to keep posting until I can
answer the question honestly. I have to keep posting until I can say with all conviction that it will NEVER be me.

Just my thoughts on why I will be posting roll for the foreseeable future---Carry on...

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: BrianG on April 30, 2017, 01:34:00 AM

Tired of always trying to find this stuff...

Skoal Monster Roll Posts (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=590750&t=1004979)
30's quit resources (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=1335364&t=1006646)
30's intro (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1006646/1/)

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: BrianG on April 30, 2017, 01:58:00 AM

Tired of always trying to find this stuff...

Skoal Monster Roll Posts (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=590750&t=1004979)
Skoal Monster Intro (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1004979/1/)
30's quit resources (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=1335364&t=1006646)
30's intro (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1006646/1/)

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: KingNothing on April 30, 2017, 09:53:00 AM

Quote from: BrianG

Tired of always trying to find this stuff...

Skoal Monster Roll Posts (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=590750&t=1004979)
Skoal Monster Intro (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1004979/1/)
30's quit resources (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=1335364&t=1006646)
30's intro (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1006646/1/)

Some great resources, no doubt

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: BrianG on May 05, 2017, 05:42:00 PM

Ready speaks

************************

Afternoon my May Brothers!

Should I stay or should I go now,
If I go there will be trouble,
If I stay it will be double.
So you gotta let me knowwwwwwwwwww!
Should I stay or should I go!

This is my opinion based on my own experiences. Some of you have read most of this before from me and others. This is not directed at anyone in particular but is meant to opine upon a general subject which is in the limelight at this stage of most groups.

I've seen this conversation a few times. It's not unusual. There are varying reasons why it gets brought up. I think one of the reasons is because people want to be cured. I get that. Hell, who doesn't want to be cured of such a horrible addiction. And if I'm being honest, you have every right to feel any dam way you want or need.

You guys showed up and did what needed to be done. You fought the hard fight and through this entire shit show of a battle you did it! You won! TODAY. You quit for today. You posted roll today. You gave your word of honor for today.

Then you hit the HOF! That was the goal. You stuck it out and paid the price and you want a reward! I get that. Some think their reward should be that they can slow down and stop fighting! That's not how it works and deep down most know this. But man you can't help but getting the TGIF feeling, can you. I can't deny it, it feels great when you've put in a hard week at work and it's 4:55PM on Friday afternoon. But come Monday where are you going to be? Yep, back at work.

Freedom. That's your reward. You must admit, it is 1000% worth it or you would not be here. And you also must admit that if you were not here, your chances of being quit are reduced considerably.

In the end, you must decide what your freedom is worth to you. Is that fleeting feeling of thinking you have won so you can simply walk away worth the risk of another five, ten or twenty years of being a slave of a can a day? I can't answer that for you.

It will not always be as difficult as the first 100 days. That is the truth. At some point quitting will be quite easy for you for the most part. Sure, there will be bad days. But they will be fewer and farther apart. But you must keep quitting. And you quit by doing what worked. And what worked was posting roll every day and keeping your word. Doing anything different can and does lead to being a slave.

P.S. Your quit is first and foremost. Period. You can't quit for others, they must do the heavy lifting. That's not to say you can't help where you can, but it's not your fault if someone makes a decision contrary to your beliefs.

NAFAR! Whatever it takes.

You can do this!

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: BrianG on May 05, 2017, 05:44:00 PM

Tired of always trying to find this stuff...

Skoal Monster Roll Posts (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=590750&t=1004979)
Skoal Monster Intro (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1004979/1/)
30's quit resources (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=1335364&t=1006646)
30's intro (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1006646/1/)
Ready on leaving site (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=11557344&t=30137057)

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: BrianG on May 12, 2017, 02:11:00 AM

Tired of always trying to find this stuff...

My HOF Speech (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30227866/1/#new)
Skoal Monster Roll Posts (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=590750&t=1004979)
Skoal Monster Intro (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1004979/1/)
30's quit resources (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=1335364&t=1006646)
30's intro (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1006646/1/)
Ready on leaving site (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=11557344&t=30137057)

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: BrianG on June 21, 2017, 04:40:00 PM

Day 155

Sometimes your faith gets tested. Reading things like this can get you back on track.

Quote from: rkymtnman

Been thinking a lot about this whole "it gets better" voodoo that we all parrot over and over. I know I didn't really believe it when I was just past the hall and trudging through the motions trying like hell to stay clean and watching my group lose quitters. Always lead me to think - if it is OK for them, why not me?

I remember another thing I did in these types of situations. Go find some "active", crusty old vet - I'd suggest a guy like Hydro because he is quit friggen YODA - shoot him a pm. Ask him questions about what it is like now. Find these 6, 7, 8 year quitters who are still here every day - though not overly active - and ask them. Don't take my word for it. Ask them what it is like. Ask them if it was all worth it. There HAS to be a reason guys like Hydro and others still post roll like it is their job. We are all pretty busy guys with professional lives and work responsibilities, with families and probably have FAR better things to do than troll internet forums for nic addicts. Yet here we all are - in the same boat.

I bet you'll hear the same story over and over. Take it on faith that shit gets so much fucking better you can't possibly imagine. I sure as shit didn't until one day, I realized it had. I challenge you all to keep the focus on TODAY - every day and everything will get worked out in time. Get rid of the thoughts of "by now, I should feel ______" because I can promise you those expectations will lead to let down. Instead, try "Today I will not use nicotine" and go live your life without thinking about where you think you ought to be at this point. You are exactly where you all should be. There is a reason I hate the hall...sure it is a bad ass benchmark but after that, it is just another +1. My worst days were AFTER the hall. My best days were ahead of me - I just didn't believe it.

Keep the faith brothers. You are all killing it - and winning - it just doesn't feel like it most days. I promise that changes.

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: BrianG on August 05, 2017, 02:09:00 PM

Day 200

Today marks my second Hall of Fame day. It has been a while since I have updated my progress
so I thought I would write about the last 100 days, day 101 to 200. The one thing I have noticed
here on KTCk, is that not much is written about the days after your HOF. I understand that the
first 100 days are very important and that is where the focus is. After completing the second
100 days, I think some attention needs to be paid to this time frame. I believe the second 100 days
are tougher than the first, bar maybe week 1. Let me explain.

During the first 100 days, your group is getting a lot of attention. You have a goal in sight and
you are excited about reaching the HOF. If you have any competitive spirit to you at all, 100 days
is not that difficult. You make your promise everyday and keep your eye on the prize. If you get
through the first couple weeks, it is very doable. After the HOF, the attention to your group tends
to fade. People in your group tend to drift off. We have lost well over a third of the guys who
made it to HOF in the second 100 days. A few to caves and some who felt they were cured. This is the
time where you really have to dig deep and remember what you quit for in the first place.

I quit because it was time. 35 years was enough. I took tobacco off the table on day 1 and refused
to ever let it be an option no matter how bad it got. That is the mentality that got me through those
first days and the mentality that got me to the HOF. Shortly after day 100, I started to have craves
comparitive to the first week. I found myself thinking about dipping quite often. I was in a funk
that was hard to get out of. During the next 100 days, that voice in my head has gotten louder. Many
times I have found my inner voice trying to convince me that I have quit long enough. That one dip
would not affect me like the others. I could do 1 dip and be quit. I have asked myself more than a
few times if I really want to be quit. These thoughts have come many times over these last 100 days.
Everytime, I have been able to convince myself that I am quit for good reason. I try and remember day
1 again. I go to the new groups and read how those poor bastards are doing. I say to myself, never
doing day 1 again. I have to stay quit. I relied on my group to get me through. A few phone calls
and lots of texts to different people.

I cant imagine going through these last 100 days without my group, without KTC as a whole. I am positive
that I would have caved somewhere along the way if I wasnt continuing to post roll everyday. I see
people leave and wonder how they can do it. How do they have the confidence to stay quit? I hope there
comes a day when I can have the confidence to leave KTC and know that I am quit forever. I know that
thought is not popular on this site, but like it or not, that is my goal.

My hope is that the next 100 days are easier than the last 100 days. People keep saying that it gets better.
I believe they are right, but I am getting tired of reading about it and not relizing it. With all this
being said, I would not change a thing. I have been quit for 200 days. I am proud of that. I will keep
battling the inner voice with the help of all of you.

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: DonkeyMN on August 22, 2017, 12:31:00 PM

Damn good post BrianG!

I have been thinking about how to articulate the same types of thoughts. The second 100 days should be titled "the push to stay involved".

Many people have reached that HOF.... but many have left after that.

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: Kdip on August 23, 2017, 02:43:00 PM

Keep up the great work Brian!!!! If you cave I'll put together a posse and we'll come kick you ass!!!!!

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: BrianG on November 16, 2017, 11:37:00 AM

Day 303 and quit for today.

My last update was on my Day 200. I stated that I hope the next 100 days are easier than the last 100 days.
I can say without a doubt that they were. People kept saying it gets easier and I was tired of hearing it.
I finally have gotten to the point where I can say it has gotten easier. I have really been having some
good days, dare I say even good weeks. I do not really remember the last crave I have had. I do not remember
the last time that voice in my head started to get the better of me. He still talks to me every once in awhile,
but not very often.

I am proud to be quit over 300 days and looking forward to the 1 year mark. Still doing 1 day at a time and it
is working. April '17 has really dwindled in numbers, but the group that remains is a strong group. Proud to quit
with them.

If you are reading this and thinking about quitting, I hope you will do as I did and go all in. You have to take
tobacco off the table from the start and then do whatever it takes to get through the day. My thought is if you
can get through the first couple of weeks, you are really on your way to being quit. I am amazed at how fast these
300+ days have gone by. There were some tough days for sure, but the right attitude can go along way in helping
you cope with the stress and anxiety of quitting. If you are committed and all in, reach out and lets get this
quit going....

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: ChickDip on November 16, 2017, 01:33:00 PM

You da man BG!
Congrats on that 300!!

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: Ready on November 16, 2017, 01:56:00 PM

Quote from: BrianG

Day 303 and quit for today.

My last update was on my Day 200. I stated that I hope the next 100 days are easier than the last 100 days.
I can say without a doubt that they were. People kept saying it gets easier and I was tired of hearing it.
I finally have gotten to the point where I can say it has gotten easier. I have really been having some
good days, dare I say even good weeks. I do not really remember the last crave I have had. I do not remember
the last time that voice in my head started to get the better of me. He still talks to me every once in awhile,
but not very often.

I am proud to be quit over 300 days and looking forward to the 1 year mark. Still doing 1 day at a time and it
is working. April '17 has really dwindled in numbers, but the group that remains is a strong group. Proud to quit
with them.

If you are reading this and thinking about quitting, I hope you will do as I did and go all in. You have to take
tobacco off the table from the start and then do whatever it takes to get through the day. My thought is if you
can get through the first couple of weeks, you are really on your way to being quit. I am amazed at how fast these
300+ days have gone by. There were some tough days for sure, but the right attitude can go along way in helping
you cope with the stress and anxiety of quitting. If you are committed and all in, reach out and lets get this
quit going....

Pssssst! Brian! It gets even better!!!!!!!!

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Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: ChickDip on December 07, 2017, 03:45:00 PM

'Birthday' freedom!
Celebrate!

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: DonkeyMN on January 17, 2018, 10:00:00 AM

One full year of being a quitter.... congrats man!

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: Bert75 on January 17, 2018, 12:45:00 PM

Congrats on 1 year and being a fine quitter!!

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: ChickDip on January 18, 2018, 07:33:00 AM

Quote from: Bert75

Congrats on 1 year and being a fine quitter!!

Congrats on your 1 year quit Brian!

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: BrianG on January 23, 2018, 10:11:00 AM

Day 371

Wanted to make a post talking about 1 year quit. It has been an interesting ride to get here. Lots of ups and downs. Made some new friends. Got out of my comfort zone a few times. Looking back now, I can say it was all worth it. I do not do tobacco anymore. Wasn't that long ago that I thought I would never be able to quit. I thought it was too much apart of who I am. 35 years was a long time. I learned to live without it. To be honest, that did not take that long. The mental games were tough early on. That addict guy in my head comes around still. I can pretty much ignore him now. I know that I still need to stay focused and remember why I quit. I must remember that I never want to do a day 1 again.

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: ChickDip on January 26, 2018, 01:03:00 AM

Quote from: BrianG

Day 371

Wanted to make a post talking about 1 year quit. It has been an interesting ride to get here. Lots of ups and downs. Made some new friends. Got out of my comfort zone a few times. Looking back now, I can say it was all worth it. I do not do tobacco anymore. Wasn't that long ago that I thought I would never be able to quit. I thought it was too much apart of who I am. 35 years was a long time. I learned to live without it. To be honest, that did not take that long. The mental games were tough early on. That addict guy in my head comes around still. I can pretty much ignore him now. I know that I still need to stay focused and remember why I quit. I must remember that I never want to do a day 1 again.

Outstanding. On your way to more peace, more often.

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: David S on January 27, 2018, 11:58:00 PM

Awesome year, Brian

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: BrianG on May 09, 2018, 02:56:00 PM

Day 477

I dipped Skoal Fine Cut Wintergreen for 35 years. It was nothing to go through a can a day for me. Today I posted 477 days quit. First I just want to say

everyone should quit right now. Cold turkey, never again for any reason. If everyone would quit, that would be great. Saying that, I am writing this so that the

older guys will read it. The guy who has been dipping for 20+ years. The guy who really doesnt enjoy it as much, but still does it because quitting is tough. I

am sure you are like I was when I would buy a can(s) of dip. I need to quit this stuff, I am tired of it. What a waste of money. Maybe after these cans are

gone, then I will quit. You know that as soon as those can(s) were gone, you were back at the store buying more and making those same promises to yourself.

I am here to tell you that it is time. Time to do what we all know is the right thing. If you have dipped this long, then I know you have had that scare multiple

times, you know the one. The one where your heart skips a beat because you think you just discovered you have mouth cancer. A new bump in your lip, white

patches on your tongue. Some tickle in your throat that seems to not be getting better. These things used to worry me sick. Am I the only one that would

grab the flashlight and head to the bathroom mirror and start looking for cancer? Since I have been quit, I dont think that way anymore. Will my 35 years of

abusing myself with tobacco cause me issues in the future? I pray not, but I know that I did the right thing in quitting now. No regrets. If you had the power to

see the future and you knew the next dip was the one that would cause the cancer to start growing, would you take that dip? I think most of us would fight like

hell and do whatever it took to keep tobacco out of our mouths. Of course we do not have that power, but we do know that at some point, enough is

enough. Us 20+ year guys cant be dancing with the devil and not expcet something bad to happen. You can read stories of guys with less time than that

developing mouth cancer. When I was dipping, no way could I look at pictures of mouth cancer or even read about it. Since quitting, I have allowed myself to

view some of these pictures and read about people going through the treatments. Let me tell you, I ain't going out that way...Hell NO. It is just gruesome to

read about. You think it will be easier to quit while you are going through chemo treatments? This is real. You are on a site that helps people quit using

nicotine and reading this, so you must agree that you have had enough. Now you are trying to figure out how to do it. First thing is to know that you do not

have to do it alone. Knowing that there were guys and gals here going through the exact same thing I was made this doable. I tried on my own and failed. I

came here and went all in. I wanted to quit bad. You have to get yourself to that point and then do what it takes. If a vet tells you to post roll everyday, then

you post roll everyday with no questions asked. If a vet says you post early in the morning, then you post early in the morning. This site has worked for many

people. It will also let you down if you are not committed to being quit. No magic pills here. You have to quit for you and you have to determine that failing is

not an option. When you get to that point and you leave the ego at the door, you too can quit this addiction. You can learn what it feels like to truly be free

from nicotine. I have had 477 days of my adult life nicotine free and I wish I was smart enough to quit a long time ago. The freedom is so worth it. Read

everything you can on this site. Get your game plan together. Determine that no matter how bad I feel while quitting, tobacco will never be an option again. I

can promise you 2 things if you decide to quit. Promise 1, this will be hard. There will be times that you will question yourself. I say this to you, nobody has

ever died from quitting tobacco. You can do it! Promise 2, You will not regret quitting. It took me about 225 days or so to really feel good and not think of

tobacco. It may be shorter for you or maybe longer, but when you do reach that point, you will never look back with regret. Hopefully you will reach out like I

am doing here and try to help the next guy who is trying to figure out how to quit. Let today be day 1 of your quit...

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: Athan on May 31, 2018, 06:35:00 PM

Bravo Golf Four Niner Niner you are cleared for approach runway Five Zero Zero...

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: Skolvikings on June 01, 2018, 01:50:00 PM

Quote from: Athan

Bravo Golf Four Niner Niner you are cleared for approach runway Five Zero Zero...

Congrats on 500 sir!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: ChickDip on June 02, 2018, 02:09:00 AM

Quote from: skolvikings

Quote from: Athan

Bravo Golf Four Niner Niner you are cleared for approach runway Five Zero Zero...

Congrats on 500 sir!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Awesome 500 briang!

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: FLLipOut on June 04, 2018, 10:06:00 PM

Quote from: ChickDip

Quote from: skolvikings

Quote from: Athan

Bravo Golf Four Niner Niner you are cleared for approach runway Five Zero Zero...

Congrats on 500 sir!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Awesome 500 briang!

Belated congrats on that half dangle! 'party'

Great posts here in your intro, too!!!

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: BrianG on July 31, 2018, 06:26:00 PM

Tired of always trying to find this stuff...

My HOF Speech (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30227866/1/#new)
Skoal Monster Roll Posts (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=590750&t=1004979)
Skoal Monster Intro (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1004979/1/)
30's quit resources (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=1335364&t=1006646)
30's intro (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1006646/1/)
Ready on leaving site (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=11557344&t=30137057)


Stone Cold Steve Austin Quit -- Here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azeunATE-9M)

Brent's Story -- Here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGE_glHV4Eo)

Is Cold Turkey The Way To Go -- Here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUSJLDzkIhs)

Never Again For Any Reason -- Here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV041pcs-lI)

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: BrianG on September 09, 2018, 02:53:00 PM

Day 600

Day 600 and all is good. I wish all those guys early in their quit, or the guy yet to quit, knew what it felt like to be quit for 600 days. The struggle is worth it if you can hang on. It took some real faith in those early days to believe the vets who said it got better. Just seemed to take forever!! Hang in there guys, better days ahead!!

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: Leonidas on September 09, 2018, 03:08:00 PM

Quote from: BrianG

Day 600

Day 600 and all is good. I wish all those guys early in their quit, or the guy yet to quit, knew what it felt like to be quit for 600 days. The struggle is worth it if you can hang on. It took some real faith in those early days to believe the vets who said it got better. Just seemed to take forever!! Hang in there guys, better days ahead!!

Congratulations Brian!!

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: quitNWinay on September 09, 2018, 03:14:00 PM

Quote from: BrianG

Day 600

Day 600 and all is good. I wish all those guys early in their quit, or the guy yet to quit, knew what it felt like to be quit for 600 days. The struggle is worth it if you can hang on. It took some real faith in those early days to believe the vets who said it got better. Just seemed to take forever!! Hang in there guys, better days ahead!!

Congratulations on the neat number, Brother... I wrote the same thing about things getting better, in the morning! 600 quit days is inspirational! Proud to quit with you EDD ODAAT!!!

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: Capital70 on September 09, 2018, 03:42:00 PM

Thanks for not giving up on me! Conratulations on 600!!!!

Title: Re: It is Time
Post by: Rawls on September 09, 2018, 11:08:00 PM

Quote from: Capital70

Thanks for not giving up on me! Conratulations on 600!!!!

Well done there.. Dancing bear.
I quit with you Sir.
Rawls

Title: Re: It Is Time
Post by: BrianG on April 25, 2019, 10:22:00 AM

The BMF'ers of Quit (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDiRZ2xx9xI)

Wednesday, April 24

Links to Stuff

KTC GroupMe (https://groupme.com/join_group/20090923/6nllQ5) | April 2019 GroupMe (https://group me.com/join_group/46493045/FhFWFL) | April SSOA (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Bu9MiGuWnsYGBIG2NCrRpMUEOLSXIK1q73FlQRynz4s/edit?usp=sharing)| What To Expect (https://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/what-to-expect-when-you-quit-dipping/)

BMFer HOF Speeches

Mayfly (https://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?topic=14178.0) | Hilltop (https://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?topic=14180.0) | BugGuy (https://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?topic=14184.0)| ES (https://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?topic=14186.0)

SHOUT OUT TO JADE FOR MAKING SURE THE BMF'ers WERE POSTED UP RIGHT!

'HOF Train'

'Bubble' Epistrophius & Bags 'Bubble'

CHECK OUT THE LIST OF PREVIOUS HOF CONDUCTORS (https://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?topic=14142.msg2191768#msg2191768)

In an open forum like this, it's easy to get sidetracked by the constant barrage of “tough love” and “accountability” that some of those more vociferous Vets can dish out. And then there's those quiet giants like BrianG who sit quietly in the back of the room and impart knowledge without being the center of attention. I was drawn to Brian's no non-sense approach to quitting and humble nature early on in my quit. So for today's trip, pull up a chair and listen in on a conversation with one of my mentors. Welcome BrianG.

Brian, Tell us a little about your dip history...

I grew up in a farm community in Indiana.  Most of my friends did some form of tobacco.  I became a regular everyday user around the age of 15.  35 years later, I found KTC.  I shake my head every time I tell someone 35 years. 

Why did you choose to quit?

People with a lot  less time using than that have encountered issues. I am a little bit of a hypochondriac so I cant tell you how many times I knew I had cancer. I hated that feeling.  It was time.

You recently celebrated 800 days, What are some of the keys to your success?

My first key to success was finding KTC.  I wanted to quit badly, but wasnt sure how to do it.  I rarely made it passed a few days in my previous attempts at quitting. KTC provided a path that was different from anything I have ever tried before.  Once here, I started exchanging texts with others in my group.  The thing that made all this real for me was when my fellow Underdog Samrs called me.  We are a few days a part and both were feeling like crap.  I found that it is a lot easier to put up with the pains of quitting when you know someone else is going through the same.  I am a competitive person so once I made it through the first week or so, I knew I would make it to 100 days. 

It was what happens next that scared me.  I decided to stick around and help the new groups forming.  I was privileged enough to be asked to conduct June '17.  That kept me coming back. I have met around 20 people on this site face to face.  Some great people here. All of these things helped me stay quit, but the main thing is I took tobacco off the table.  It was no longer an option.  Once I got that mindset, thoughts of tobacco diminished in time even though the fight to overcome the pains of quitting were still present.  I still like to come back and read the newest group on KTC just to reinforce that I will never do a day 1 again. 

Brian, you've been pretty honest about the fact that you didn't really have a “grasp on your quit” until around day 225. If you had it to do over again, what would you do differently?

Early on, my focus was how to quit tobacco and not have to deal with this site anymore.  It was hard for me to understand a guy like Ready or any other guy with 3000 plus days quit andstill posting roll.  I would ask them why they do it and at the time, their answers didn't make sense to me.  As I reached a higher day count, those words from the vets started to make sense to me.  This is what got me to finally take control of a 35 year addiction.  Why would I want to risk a let down and come back and have my friends shun me for failing to keep my word.  So to answer the question directly, I would not be so eager to want to leave the site.  It works and the friendships made mean a lot to me.

Thanks for yor time Brian, I always appreciate your insight. What advice would you give these new HOF inductees?

Stay Focused.  You are not done yet, not even close.  I did not feel like I had a grasp on my quit until about day 225 or so.  At that time I decided to stop blaming my no longer using tobacco for every little problem that came along. As Cbird would say, OWN IT.  Remember what day 1 felt like.  Remember why you quit in the first place.   Dont be so eager to leave this place.  I think too many people think they have finished the program at day 100.  Nothing could be further from the truth.  I would challenge this April group to become the new leaders of KTC.  My final piece of advice, pay it forward to the next person who comes along looking for guidance on how to quit.  Nothing strengthened my quit more than helping another person who was struggling.

Awesome Brain, I want to thank you for your time today, and personally thank you for being a strong part of my quit. Any time I struggle, I search the archives for your posts.

   You're welcome Epistrophius.  And I want to thank you and Bags for doing a great job and allowing me this opportunity to hopefully give you some things to think about.  I am easy to find and always looking to make another friend if you need some support.  The quit continues...

'40' Who's doing good?'40'

Roll Call!
Athan - 479 with April '19, their awesome conductors, and BrianG.  Hear Hear!
EnuffSnuff - 109, Hear Hear!
TheWolf89 - 113 - dealing with stress without the help of nicotine these days
Datrill 99 ODAAT
BG 111 looking forward to reading everyone's HOF SPEECHES. Get em in boys....please
ES - 109 with my April boys and Epi and Bags, thanks fellas! I, too, want to read some more HOF speeches...
Kerbycl9-106 days (BUMP FIX)
Jade 112 days. Thanks Brian, great story!
tlhorrocks - 96
Clary245 -Day 104
Longbow66-101 Great words BrianG
Zoe-Day 106
Erik17 - 112 with BMFers
Rjtracy - 98- not today.(BUMP FIX)
Hoosierswin523 - 115 quit with you all. Thanks BrianG..
Epistrophius- quit with y'all on 175
Hoffaman - 105 a and quit again with all of April
mayfly 120.  We're just at the first rest area of an neverending road trip.  Buckle up BMF'ers!
Hilltop 119 Great stuff Brian! PTQW all of you today.
Good2go-99-Qlf with April today
chris2alaska 462 and Quit - Nice interview by BrianG.  He is a total bad ass quitter.
Mn rider- 108 with April
Skol- 478 with my man Brian, nice work condicktors
Dml_Grizz. 120. Odaat
Andrewaxp86-day 102
CapsFan - Day 102 - Quit today!
Josh 109
hank40 - 114 (pickup)
mikeWK - Day 106 - Quit today.
Dipperjoe - 99 days.  For some reason, my post didn't go through this morning.  Thanks ES and Hilltop for checking in.  I smell a HoF coming!

  'shortbus' Who's coming with us? 'shortbus'

Scott B. - 159 with April
INKcogKNEEdough 1,660 with hoosierswin and april
Bone -1766- With HT, BG, and MF! Solid quitters, all.
Jpquit 919 great insight up there
Shake- 192 Quit with ES and all the BMF’ers
AW 93- EDD
NoMark 216
MonsterEMT - 1,880
JRan - 690 with April and their conductors
Sean Fiske 301 with Andrewaxp86 and all of April
Gunnar 75 with April
keith0617  202
Samrs - 835
fishflorida-1066^^ with that dude and April HOFers
Pky1520 day 1088 with April and the Conductors
Croak 302 with Hilltop and the Conductors!
Copequits 290 with Hoosierswin and the conductors... awesome write up today!
MUPig 1837 with BMFers on their HoF and the conductors
25yd-53 with the BMF'ers today
Mike1966 1,102 Great read and great advice! April HOFers, you're not cured at 100, you've still got some tuff days in your future. Don't abandon ship!
Nick T 227 with April and their Conductors
AddictArchitect 338 with ES & EnuffSnuff, Mayfly and Andrewaxp86
BrianG 827 with all of April today
Rick Jr 92 Congrats!
Falcon67 - 604 Congrats to all of the new HOFers -- Nice work Conductors!
DesertDweller 242 quit with April and the conductors
oldschool 199 with April
batdad quit 842 days in a row
Bags - 177 with the BMFers - congrats HOFers
SRains918 - 573 and QLF with the new HOF'ers and the conductors!
Sand44 - 190 with Bug Guy and those conductors
FoodBuzz -480- With BugGuy, Brian, and JADE! TY let’s keep the quit going!
Gdubya 2069
FLLIP 1007 - super quit wisdom, BrianG!!!  And keep up the great work, Conductors!  With Mayfly, ES and APRIL!

Title: Re: It Is Time
Post by: BrianG on July 17, 2019, 10:38:54 AM

Are you quitting tomorrow or are you actually going to quit?  These introductions are loaded with people who have 1 post saying tomorrow.  We never see them again...


I Will Quit Tomorrow – Epilogue For Ricky

Tomorrow

I have been thinking a lot about my quit this weekend. I had a friend and neighbor in Atlanta for 14 years, his son was a year older than my son. We moved there when he was one year old. So my son and Ricky’s son played together all the time and he and I became good friends. We would work in our yards, have a few beers, he would smoke and I would dip – see I started dipping after I moved to this house. Well Ricky is just your average family guy – wife 2 kids and a small landscaping company. On Saturdays we would hang out on his back patio and watch the wives play tennis and we would drink and bull shit. He would tell me I needed to quit Skoal before I got hooked on it and I would tell him to quit smoking. Well he always said he would quit tomorrow and he even did quit a couple of times for a few days. He knew he needed to quit, his dad died of lung cancer and he wanted to be around for his family.

WELL TOMORROW NEVER CAME!!! On early Friday morning Ricky (55yrs young) passed away from lung cancer leaving his wife and 2 kids and a grandson alone. Think about how fortunate we are for living in tomorrow. Our tomorrow is here today and we have the complete control to keep tomorrow here today. What do you think Ricky would have given the day he was told he had lung cancer to turn the clock back to a time before the cancer started, say maybe 100 days or so? I think he would have given everything he had to quit and not have cancer. Well we don’t have to give anything to have what he would have paid a million bucks for – to be nicotine and cancer free. So tomorrow is here today – 24 hours with your little nicotine friend tapping at the door telling you she loves you and to let her in. Remember, we are not quitting dip – we have quit. Shut the door for today and repeat that again tomorrow and so on. Take the opportunity that you have provided for yourself and stay quit for you, stay quit for your family and friends!

Cancer affects more people than just the dying victim. Sure Ricky died in a great deal of pain, he had lost over 100 pounds and could not get out of bed for over a month. His wife had to leave work to assist her husband. A once upper middle class family is now in dyer straights. The announcement asked for flowers not to be sent, instead it requested donations for the family.

NICOTINE WILL KILL YOU AND DEVASTATE YOUR FAMILY!

--FranPro

Title: Re: It Is Time
Post by: BrianG on January 18, 2020, 12:50:17 PM

3 years quit

Another milestone met!  I read back through this thread and a lot of memories come flooding back.  Some good, some bad, but everyone was a step along the way to be quit.  All those issues I had early on are a memory now.  Life is good and the quit is strong.  Time does wonders for the psyche.   Thank you all for being an important part of me being and staying quit.   I am forever grateful.

If reading this and still dipping....today is a great day to be quit.  Start your day count and quit today and worry about tomorrow when it gets here. Lots of great people here who will support you with everything they got.

No More Excuses!!

Title: Re: It Is Time
Post by: Keith0617 on January 18, 2020, 05:13:01 PM

Quote from: BrianG on January 18, 2020, 12:50:17 PM

3 years quit

Another milestone met!  I read back through this thread and a lot of memories come flooding back.  Some good, some bad, but everyone was a step along the way to be quit.  All those issues I had early on are a memory now.  Life is good and the quit is strong.  Time does wonders for the psyche.   Thank you all for being an important part of me being and staying quit.   I am forever grateful.

If reading this and still dipping....today is a great day to be quit.  Start your day count and quit today and worry about tomorrow when it gets here. Lots of great people here who will support you with everything they got.

No More Excuses!!

Congrats @BrianG (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=225) . Three years is super impressive.

Title: Re: It Is Time
Post by: EXBEARHAG on February 10, 2020, 05:37:35 PM

@BrianG (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=225) .  Thanks for recording your quit in here.  I have to say, out of all the reading I've done on the site, I was able to relate to your story the most...so far at least.  Lots of reading left to do.  Cried my way through some of your 200 day post.  You were able to articulate what I am feeling better than I can.

Again, thanks for taking the time to write down your experiences and feelings.  You've recharged my quit and given me more confidence that there is a light at the end of the tunnel.

~HAG