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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: CTF on June 04, 2020, 03:59:26 PM
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Hello everyone. I signed up for the group today after quitting 6 days ago. I have a very similar story to all those who posted previously. Bottom line: I am done with this crap. It hasn't been easy but I finally have the willpower to say no more. I have been tested a few days ago as hopped in the car to buy a can only to turn right around after asking myself what are you doing? I know I can beat this!
Cheers and glad to be here
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Welcome aboard. I'm glad you're here.
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@CTF (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=17775) Welcome my friend! You made a great decision. This site will keep you quit as long as you buy in. Accountability is what this site is rooted in, it is what has kept me quit. Other attempts would always fail, but the network of fellow quitters that I've built through this site has been the key factor in keeping me from stuffing my face with cancer dirt. I'll DM you my digits and text you my daily promise not to consume nicotine in any form, I hope you do the same in return to help keep me accountable as well. Hoping to hear from you!
-Chaston
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168 hours ago
168 hours ago or one week from right now I decided I am done with this crap. I thought to myself how will this time be different? I mean I have tried to stop this insanity before only to fail but somehow/someway this feels different. I just have it in my head that I am walking away. The only way I can explain it is through my military training. One thing you learn when you are in a training that is stretching you to the limits (think no sleep, body is beyond exhaustion, brain is in a fog) is to lean forward and take one more step, then another and another. Don't let those bastards (Instructors) beat you. That how I am handling this obviously with different role players. It's me vs the devil in nicotine. The reason why I got to 168 hours is I have my head straight and I am telling my body one step forward, then one more and one more. The difference is instead of going to somewhere I am going away from a place where I have been. That's the only way I can explain it.
For me what has helped:
Chewing gum. You need that oral fix. Your brain is trained to be a custom to having something there. Down side is my jaw is completely sure from chewing gum, something I didn't anticipate. Solution hard candy
Physical Activity. When the devil taps me on the shouldee and suggests I to him rather than away I go and take a short walk and do some deep breathing to get past it. Working out/running/riding my bike whatever it takes to stop thinking
I am the Director Of No as a last resort. Enjoying beers or Bourbons with buddies, out on the golf course or under my car, places comfortable for me to chew, I become the Director of No. In all seriousness I have a 5 second meeting with myself and say no, which is usually followed by gum and a hour or two later followed by a sore jaw but that vicious cycle works for me.
168 hours ago I said I am done. Gave the big middle finger to chew. I am walking away every minute, every hour and now ever week from this shit.
Any of you, the people who's shoes I am walking in, my idols my rock stars have any advice/knowledge/whatever support concerning on how you finally said I am done and how you handled it I will take it. To me it's just that this time I have a plan, action, accountability to myself and the will power to say I am walking away
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....Any of you, the people who's shoes I am walking in, my idols my rock stars have any advice/knowledge/whatever support concerning on how you finally said I am done and how you handled it I will take it...
Educate yourself. I've some links in my tagline. Knowledge is power. Ignorance is terribly expensive. Loving the "Director of No"!
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6/7/20 Sunday morning - I used to have a small quiet pinch on Sundays with my coffee when the house is quiet early in the morning. In the past the wife would wake up and there was always that look to see if I had something. The guilt feeling would take over. I can honestly say not today. I was happy as a clam sipping my coffee knowing nothing was there. No way to express or feel guilt. This is Day 9 and it feels like what I imagine 99 will. Do I think about it? Sure I do. I continue to have the resolve to say No. For me, for my wife for my daughter. No a thousand times No.
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6/7/20 Sunday morning - I used to have a small quiet pinch on Sundays with my coffee when the house is quiet early in the morning. In the past the wife would wake up and there was always that look to see if I had something. The guilt feeling would take over. I can honestly say not today. I was happy as a clam sipping my coffee knowing nothing was there. No way to express or feel guilt. This is Day 9 and it feels like what I imagine 99 will. Do I think about it? Sure I do. I continue to have the resolve to say No. For me, for my wife for my daughter. No a thousand times No.
I @CTF (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=17775) glad to see you found your group and posted roll. We wake up, piss, and post our promise first thing to stay nicotine free for the day. Only worry about today as we quit ODAAT - one day at a time. We will deal with tomorrow when it comes. Make connections with other quitters. Exchanging digits is recommended but only through personal messages and not on the forum or here in the Intro area. You can do this and we are here to help. Shoot me a message if I can help at all.
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6/7/20 Sunday morning - I used to have a small quiet pinch on Sundays with my coffee when the house is quiet early in the morning. In the past the wife would wake up and there was always that look to see if I had something. The guilt feeling would take over. I can honestly say not today. I was happy as a clam sipping my coffee knowing nothing was there. No way to express or feel guilt. This is Day 9 and it feels like what I imagine 99 will. Do I think about it? Sure I do. I continue to have the resolve to say No. For me, for my wife for my daughter. No a thousand times No.
That used to be my Sunday morning routine as well. All alone with my coffee and a lipper. Never again for any reason. Good that you're cognizant of it, the small successes, the awareness of life without it. Little victories like this will crop up from time to time. Acknowledge and savor them as you have this one. Blog it out here and document them as they come; they are bricks in your wall of quit. They edify others (even vets like me) and will edify you as well as you look back on how far you've come.
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@CTF (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=17775) I love your attitude and your drive. Looks to me like you have the right mindset. Make sure you get some phone numbers for when the going gets rougher. My digits are a pm away. Hold the line my friend.
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@CTF (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=17775) I love your attitude and your drive. Looks to me like you have the right mindset. Make sure you get some phone numbers for when the going gets rougher. My digits are a pm away. Hold the line my friend.
The last 48 hours haven't been easy. I don't know why. I know the chemicals that chewing brings are outside of my body by now but for some reason my mind is playing tricks on me. It's a game to me now. I think if it was easy I would overlook this challenge but because it has me by the balls it's now personal. To be honest it's always been personal but these last few days of struggle is open my eyes a little wider.
I'm very much looking forward to Friday. Friday will be the day that with honest eyes I look at my wife and tell her I've been quit for 2 weeks and I'm serious I am done. In our 25 years of marriage we have had a number of issues back and forth but everyone could be resolved except for my chewing habit. It has been the one thing that has driven a steak in a relationship. On Friday I get to tell my wife of where I'm at and how I'm walking away from this crap. I'm also going to tell her about this group to offer just how serious I am about being done.
Over the last few days there have been a number of you guys reaching out to me and I were very much appreciate it. That is very easy to say but I truly mean it. Thank you all so very much in advance.
CTF
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@CTF (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=17775) I love your attitude and your drive. Looks to me like you have the right mindset. Make sure you get some phone numbers for when the going gets rougher. My digits are a pm away. Hold the line my friend.
The last 48 hours haven't been easy. I don't know why. I know the chemicals that chewing brings are outside of my body by now but for some reason my mind is playing tricks on me. It's a game to me now. I think if it was easy I would overlook this challenge but because it has me by the balls it's now personal. To be honest it's always been personal but these last few days of struggle is open my eyes a little wider.
I'm very much looking forward to Friday. Friday will be the day that with honest eyes I look at my wife and tell her I've been quit for 2 weeks and I'm serious I am done. In our 25 years of marriage we have had a number of issues back and forth but everyone could be resolved except for my chewing habit. It has been the one thing that has driven a steak in a relationship. On Friday I get to tell my wife of where I'm at and how I'm walking away from this crap. I'm also going to tell her about this group to offer just how serious I am about being done.
Over the last few days there have been a number of you guys reaching out to me and I were very much appreciate it. That is very easy to say but I truly mean it. Thank you all so very much in advance.
CTF
@CTF (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=17775) keep focusing ODAAT and let the days add up. The light at the end of the tunnel will get brighter and brighter but it does take time. You can’t stuff crap in your lip for years and it not take time for your boy to except the new you. WUPP and everything will take care of itself. Proud to quit with you.
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@CTF (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=17775) I love your attitude and your drive. Looks to me like you have the right mindset. Make sure you get some phone numbers for when the going gets rougher. My digits are a pm away. Hold the line my friend.
The last 48 hours haven't been easy. I don't know why. I know the chemicals that chewing brings are outside of my body by now but for some reason my mind is playing tricks on me. It's a game to me now. I think if it was easy I would overlook this challenge but because it has me by the balls it's now personal. To be honest it's always been personal but these last few days of struggle is open my eyes a little wider.
I'm very much looking forward to Friday. Friday will be the day that with honest eyes I look at my wife and tell her I've been quit for 2 weeks and I'm serious I am done. In our 25 years of marriage we have had a number of issues back and forth but everyone could be resolved except for my chewing habit. It has been the one thing that has driven a steak in a relationship. On Friday I get to tell my wife of where I'm at and how I'm walking away from this crap. I'm also going to tell her about this group to offer just how serious I am about being done.
Over the last few days there have been a number of you guys reaching out to me and I were very much appreciate it. That is very easy to say but I truly mean it. Thank you all so very much in advance.
CTF
@CTF (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=17775) keep focusing ODAAT and let the days add up. The light at the end of the tunnel will get brighter and brighter but it does take time. You can’t stuff crap in your lip for years and it not take time for your boy to except the new you. WUPP and everything will take care of itself. Proud to quit with you.
Love how you are getting involved around here as well CTF...monitoring the Intros and offering help and your contact info. Helping others will reinforce your quit like nothing else you can do. Keep it up my friend.
Holding the line...
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Week 2 in the books
This week found new challenges but nothing I couldn't deal with. For some stupid reason I was thinking about chew more than I wanted to but my coping mechanisms got me through it. I have to say for me my biggest tool in my tool belt is just willpower. Knowing that this isn't anything I want to do any longer helps. I loved chewing but to be honest as the days go by that longing or love seems to be less and less.
Oral hygiene: I kicked it up a notch using my water pick and electric Oral B toothbrush more often than I normally do. My mouth seems to be healing and I am trying to do everything to make that happen.
What am I doing when I crave:
For me I don't want to use any of the fake stuff. I want to completely walk away from anything chew like. I chew eclipse spearmint gum and some beef jerky. I am a huge fan of sunflower seeds but I'm trying to steer away from that as well to allow my mouth to heal. I do see some SPITZ Honey BBQ seeds in my future. They have less salt in them and seem to be easier in my mouth.
Weight gain:
I have gained a bit. I plan on countering that in making better food choices and working out a bit more. there is a saying though that you can't outrun your fork so probably what makes most sense is eating more salads.
A couple of beers no crave:
I have had a bit of alcohol this week, just a couple of beers one night and I did well.. I didn't really crave while drinking. I hadn't gone while high to test my will and I don't plan to for some time. I have always been a huge water drinker and that hasn't changed.
Thank you:
To everyone who has reached out to me. I sincerely thank you.
Until next week stay strong my friends. If you need anyone to I am just a PM/text/phone call away.
Cheers,
CTF
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Nice write up and great work, CTF. Keep doing what you're doing, and then some.
I would only caution you to change up your word usage. You didn't "love" to dip. You may have thought you did, but you dipped because dip contains nicotine, and you used nicotine to avoid withdrawal symptoms. You probably did activities you enjoyed doing, and dipped while doing them, but nicotine chemically hijinked those good feelings and memories.
I'm a big fan of beef jerky. On could say I love it, but I've never needed to be gnawing on it all day part of the night. I've never had to sneak away from my family to get a fix. I've never kept gnawing on it for years after my loved-ones, employers, doctors, etc., implored me to stop gnawing it.
Don't let allow yourself to romanticize the dip. Its main mission was to enslave you, take your money, and one day kill you. What you're going through is withdrawal symptoms--not love or longing. Don't fool yourself.
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Week 2 in the books
This week found new challenges but nothing I couldn't deal with. For some stupid reason I was thinking about chew more than I wanted to but my coping mechanisms got me through it. I have to say for me my biggest tool in my tool belt is just willpower. Knowing that this isn't anything I want to do any longer helps. I loved chewing but to be honest as the days go by that longing or love seems to be less and less.
Oral hygiene: I kicked it up a notch using my water pick and electric Oral B toothbrush more often than I normally do. My mouth seems to be healing and I am trying to do everything to make that happen.
What am I doing when I crave:
For me I don't want to use any of the fake stuff. I want to completely walk away from anything chew like. I chew eclipse spearmint gum and some beef jerky. I am a huge fan of sunflower seeds but I'm trying to steer away from that as well to allow my mouth to heal. I do see some SPITZ Honey BBQ seeds in my future. They have less salt in them and seem to be easier in my mouth.
Weight gain:
I have gained a bit. I plan on countering that in making better food choices and working out a bit more. there is a saying though that you can't outrun your fork so probably what makes most sense is eating more salads.
A couple of beers no crave:
I have had a bit of alcohol this week, just a couple of beers one night and I did well.. I didn't really crave while drinking. I hadn't gone while high to test my will and I don't plan to for some time. I have always been a huge water drinker and that hasn't changed.
Thank you:
To everyone who has reached out to me. I sincerely thank you.
Until next week stay strong my friends. If you need anyone to I am just a PM/text/phone call away.
Cheers,
CTF
Keep blogging it out CTF. In some ways, I think you are, at 2 weeks, ahead of me at 337 days. I too thought that I "loved" dip. I'm certainly still guilty of romanticizing the addiction from time to time. Your focus and determination at 2 weeks is good for me to be exposed to. Keep kicking ass brother. Hold that line.
~HAG
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Week 2 in the books
This week found new challenges but nothing I couldn't deal with. For some stupid reason I was thinking about chew more than I wanted to but my coping mechanisms got me through it. I have to say for me my biggest tool in my tool belt is just willpower. Knowing that this isn't anything I want to do any longer helps. I loved chewing but to be honest as the days go by that longing or love seems to be less and less.
Oral hygiene: I kicked it up a notch using my water pick and electric Oral B toothbrush more often than I normally do. My mouth seems to be healing and I am trying to do everything to make that happen.
What am I doing when I crave:
For me I don't want to use any of the fake stuff. I want to completely walk away from anything chew like. I chew eclipse spearmint gum and some beef jerky. I am a huge fan of sunflower seeds but I'm trying to steer away from that as well to allow my mouth to heal. I do see some SPITZ Honey BBQ seeds in my future. They have less salt in them and seem to be easier in my mouth.
Weight gain:
I have gained a bit. I plan on countering that in making better food choices and working out a bit more. there is a saying though that you can't outrun your fork so probably what makes most sense is eating more salads.
A couple of beers no crave:
I have had a bit of alcohol this week, just a couple of beers one night and I did well.. I didn't really crave while drinking. I hadn't gone while high to test my will and I don't plan to for some time. I have always been a huge water drinker and that hasn't changed.
Thank you:
To everyone who has reached out to me. I sincerely thank you.
Until next week stay strong my friends. If you need anyone to I am just a PM/text/phone call away.
Cheers,
CTF
Keep blogging it out CTF. In some ways, I think you are, at 2 weeks, ahead of me at 337 days. I too thought that I "loved" dip. I'm certainly still guilty of romanticizing the addiction from time to time. Your focus and determination at 2 weeks is good for me to be exposed to. Keep kicking ass brother. Hold that line.
~HAG
@EXBEARHAG (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=14879) Thanks for the kind words and the support. @Zeus (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1968) made some really good points though. I was lucky enough to play College Baseball and a little bit of after college ball in a time where ball players chewed. Right wrong or in different it's what kids did and I very much enjoyed playing the game I loved and chew was a part of that. I definately romanticized or waxed poetic a bit but Z is right it was slowly killing me.
Everyone has a different experience with this shit but the outcome is here is all the same with the Quit. I wish we all could grab a beer and just shoot the shit because I am sure there are a crap ton of great stories and wisdom there.
As for being a head of you I laughed reading that. You and Zeus are giants to me. I will keep on blogging weekly through my process in hopes to help others and remind me of where I was and to stay on the path.
Cheers
CTF
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Week 3 in the books
How am I feeling?
Pretty good. I actually feel stronger and stronger each day. Taking another step each day away from my problem. My mouth/gums/tongue are beginning to feel much better. I highly encourage a quieter to use a water pick and an electric toothbrush daily. It feels so awesome and is a good reminder throughout the day of the benefits of quitting as you realize how much healthier your mouth is. My teeth are much whiter as well.
I told the wife I quit (for real)
This was the easiest conversation I have had with my wife concerning chew ever. I told her I was dead serious about this and to help me through it I joined this accountability group (KTC). I even let her read some of my write-ups She actually cried with joy a bit which definitely pulled at the heart strings pretty hard. Chewing has been the one wedge in our marriage all these years and with that gone things are/will continue to be great.
I was tested this week
Bourbons with College buddies and nemesis Mr Copenhagen was there too. Even with multiple drams in me I wasn't wanting a chew at all. The will power and my accountability are still intact and I was proud of myself for it It was pretty enlighting when I was calling out my buddies to quit that shit. They aren't ready yet so I was the asshole but that's ok and I will wear that asshole-quitter sign proudly.
How am I able to make this quit stick?
If there is anything I could pay it forward to someone trying to quit would be this mindset:
You have to in your mind really want to quit. You can't go half way with this because you are only fooling yourself and wasting your time. That's really the trick for me. I just came to a point in my life where I don't want to do this anymore for numerous reasons. I made up my mind to quit and the willpower is the easy part once you get there.
Money saved
Approximately $60 so far. I think I am going to buy a new golf driver when I make it to the Hall as my celebration gift with the money I have saved not chewing. Seems like a good goal/payout
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Week 3 in the books
How am I feeling?
Pretty good. I actually feel stronger and stronger each day. Taking another step each day away from my problem. My mouth/gums/tongue are beginning to feel much better. I highly encourage a quieter to use a water pick and an electric toothbrush daily. It feels so awesome and is a good reminder throughout the day of the benefits of quitting as you realize how much healthier your mouth is. My teeth are much whiter as well.
I told the wife I quit (for real)
This was the easiest conversation I have had with my wife concerning chew ever. I told her I was dead serious about this and to help me through it I joined this accountability group (KTC). I even let her read some of my write-ups She actually cried with joy a bit which definitely pulled at the heart strings pretty hard. Chewing has been the one wedge in our marriage all these years and with that gone things are/will continue to be great.
I was tested this week
Bourbons with College buddies and nemesis Mr Copenhagen was there too. Even with multiple drams in me I wasn't wanting a chew at all. The will power and my accountability are still intact and I was proud of myself for it It was pretty enlighting when I was calling out my buddies to quit that shit. They aren't ready yet so I was the asshole but that's ok and I will wear that asshole-quitter sign proudly.
How am I able to make this quit stick?
If there is anything I could pay it forward to someone trying to quit would be this mindset:
You have to in your mind really want to quit. You can't go half way with this because you are only fooling yourself and wasting your time. That's really the trick for me. I just came to a point in my life where I don't want to do this anymore for numerous reasons. I made up my mind to quit and the willpower is the easy part once you get there.
Money saved
Approximately $60 so far. I think I am going to buy a new golf driver when I make it to the Hall as my celebration gift with the money I have saved not chewing. Seems like a good goal/payout
Keep rocking your quit @CTF (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=17775) . Just remember the nic bitch will come test you again. Keep your guard sharp.
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Week 4 in the books
28 glorious days.
How am I feeling:
Honestly I am really doing well. Don't get me wrong I think about it from time to time but I'm still plugging along and now I am at 28 days. I still feel very resolute and strong in my decision which is good because no one likes the struggle.
Something pissed me off:
I had a dream where I went to a store to buy a can. The clerk didn't have my brand which caused me to turn away. I woke up pissed off. Apparently my subconscious hasn't figured out yet what my conscience has. Get in line subconscious.
Eternal Quitters:
this week I read through a few of those stories and it made me wonder how many people passed away from tobacco. I read one story where a poor soul took his life and it kind of shook me in bit to think nothing is that bad. Stay strong my friends in your quit and with where you are. Take time out to yourself do something fun while being in the suck. Though the stories are sad they're worth reading, at least they were for me as I continue this journey.
Shout outs:
@EXBEARHAG (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=14879) and @AwakenedOne (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=16538) thanks for being in my corner. Just those little messages or shouts along the way are very much appreciated.
Savings:
$80
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@CTF (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=17775) Stay strong man you got this. I waited 78 days before joining. Like a goofball I was a lurker. Posted a question and man the help showed up like an amish barn raising. Joined that day and will post as long as God lets me. Keep the great attitude up as thats what you need and keep reaching out to the other members on KTC. I have been fighting a severe throat for 8 weeks and it ended up being silent reflux. Started meds yesterday and 1000% better already. This is not only a big change in your life but your families as well. I leaned on my wife for alot of support and as she is somebody who would sit and listen and even let me cry when the emotions got to me. In my posts you will see me refer to her as my awesome wife because without having an awesome wife I would have fell apart and who knows where I would have been. So take care of your better half even more so than you did and dig deep and find extra patience if you have kids because you will need it. My first 4 weeks were a complete nightmare and the next 8 is what really kicked my butt. Finally at 114 days I am really doing good but the craves for me are bad so I am trying as many fake dips as my throat will let me. So keep fighting as you will be feeling better eventually but we fight it one day at a time. Stay strong, stay safe and God bless you brother.
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@CTF (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=17775) Stay strong man you got this. I waited 78 days before joining. Like a goofball I was a lurker. Posted a question and man the help showed up like an amish barn raising. Joined that day and will post as long as God lets me. Keep the great attitude up as thats what you need and keep reaching out to the other members on KTC. I have been fighting a severe throat for 8 weeks and it ended up being silent reflux. Started meds yesterday and 1000% better already. This is not only a big change in your life but your families as well. I leaned on my wife for alot of support and as she is somebody who would sit and listen and even let me cry when the emotions got to me. In my posts you will see me refer to her as my awesome wife because without having an awesome wife I would have fell apart and who knows where I would have been. So take care of your better half even more so than you did and dig deep and find extra patience if you have kids because you will need it. My first 4 weeks were a complete nightmare and the next 8 is what really kicked my butt. Finally at 114 days I am really doing good but the craves for me are bad so I am trying as many fake dips as my throat will let me. So keep fighting as you will be feeling better eventually but we fight it one day at a time. Stay strong, stay safe and God bless you brother.
Thanks @Thefranks5 (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=17642) . Hang in there amigo. I told have an awesome wife and a 9 year old daughter who is pretty awesome too. Life is weird right now, this week, as I am disjointed with the Mrs. but that will come back around. We have been married almost 26 years so I guess she isn't going anywhere or at least she hasn't yet. :) Glad to hear about your throat. I was reading some of your earlier postings and understandably I get it when anything goes a little weird with our throats or mouths or tongues because we were stupid. I'm very glad to hear it's just a little acid reflux and you will get better soon. Cheers mate!
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Day 31
A full long month in.
I read a lot of things in the website and I came across something that should be mandatory reading.
I was born in San Diego and had always been a fan of anything San Diego. The Zoo, Sea World, The Clippers (until they moved to LA), The Chargers (until they moved to LA) and the San Diego Padres. I had the opportunity to play baseball in college and growing up my two sports idols were George Brett and Tony Gwynn, both fantastic Hall of Fame hitters and both chewers. Today only George is with us and Tony is gone because of his addition to chew. His story should be mandatory as a scare straight approach. You will find the link below.
Don't Fucking cave. Keep fighting the fight
https://www.espn.com/espn/otl/news/story?id=6257656
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7 weeks in the books
I feel really well. I don't have cravings necessarily I just think about it occasionally and that's usually only when I'm bored. I continue to chew gum to help but all in all it isn't that bad for me right now.
I am noticing ny mouth is finally healing which is really good. I continue to use a water pic and an electric toothbrush and it is amazing how well your mouth feels after continuous usage.I have also noticed an improvement in my sense of taste which is nice. I have also noticed my bedtime routine has gotten easier and thus I'm falling asleep faster.
I continue to work out when and where I can. Gym's are closed in my state due to the virus so one does what they can. Lots of bike rides which equates into time spent with the family and that's a good thing.
I have to head back east next week for a funeral. My cousin has passed from colon cancer. She was only 44, a nurse, with two high school aged boys. She wasn't on tobacco user. Just shows Cancer can get anyone for any reason. Anyway, I don't believe this will be a test for me but the upcoming funeral. I just don't have the desire any longer and I'm very grateful for this experience has been easier than previous attempts. I will just keep on doing what I do before I know it we will be at our 100-day mark.
Cost savings: $175
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7 weeks in the books
I feel really well. I don't have cravings necessarily I just think about it occasionally and that's usually only when I'm bored. I continue to chew gum to help but all in all it isn't that bad for me right now.
I am noticing ny mouth is finally healing which is really good. I continue to use a water pic and an electric toothbrush and it is amazing how well your mouth feels after continuous usage.I have also noticed an improvement in my sense of taste which is nice. I have also noticed my bedtime routine has gotten easier and thus I'm falling asleep faster.
I continue to work out when and where I can. Gym's are closed in my state due to the virus so one does what they can. Lots of bike rides which equates into time spent with the family and that's a good thing.
I have to head back east next week for a funeral. My cousin has passed from colon cancer. She was only 44, a nurse, with two high school aged boys. She wasn't on tobacco user. Just shows Cancer can get anyone for any reason. Anyway, I don't believe this will be a test for me but the upcoming funeral. I just don't have the desire any longer and I'm very grateful for this experience has been easier than previous attempts. I will just keep on doing what I do before I know it we will be at our 100-day mark.
Cost savings: $175
Congrats and great to hear you are doing well. Sorry to hear about your cousin. Do yourself a favor, please remember 100 days or reaching HOF is only the beginning, not the end. There isn’t a finish line. Just keep doing what you are doing and let the days add up. Proud to quit with you today.
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Reflecting on 200 days
It's been awhile and it has been an interesting ride. It hasn't been too bad but I have had some challenges. I have passed the challenges of the first 30-60.days, long road trips, golf outings with the buddies, beers with the usual suspects, mindless house project tasks where a chew would be in my face but here I am at 200 days still rock solid. I honestly couldn't be happier. I can go to the dentist with out a dirty look and lecture from the doc and/or the hygienist. I have lower health insurance being a non-user. I am beating this addiction one day at a time.
It is not to say I don't have my difficult moments but still they are just moments rather than hours or days. It does get easier. I really think now I have to take a serious stupid pill to ever dip again. Then I think of guys who have been exactly in my shoes who caved and why did they do so? Is it a moment of stupidity? A fuck it attitude? The guilt I would have if that was me. Worse than Catholic (times) Jewish guilt but still I feel for them and wish they had been stronger willed.
Short story:
I ran into a kid, he is 25 years younger than me so kid he is, who was dipping the other day. I said why don't you quit that junk? The answer somewhat surprised me with his brutal honesty. "I don't want to!" I was surprised because I wanted to quit but didn't forever. This kid has been dipping for at least 10 years and he doesn't want to? He must be some US Tobacco Superman because my ass wanted to quit a bunch of times by that year mark. I don't want to, please. Still I tried to say all the right things like it will kill you or it is expensive or don't your gums hurt? No luck. The kid was resolute with his decision. I left him and saying come talk to me one day when you want to quit because it will come and I can tell you how. You can't win them all.
I am just glad I have 200 in the books and I can look the old wife in the eyes and say nope not today. I am beating this demon one day at a time. Screw you big tobacco! I am so glad to be free of your crap garbage product.
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Reflecting on 200 days
It's been awhile and it has been an interesting ride. It hasn't been too bad but I have had some challenges. I have passed the challenges of the first 30-60.days, long road trips, golf outings with the buddies, beers with the usual suspects, mindless house project tasks where a chew would be in my face but here I am at 200 days still rock solid. I honestly couldn't be happier. I can go to the dentist with out a dirty look and lecture from the doc and/or the hygienist. I have lower health insurance being a non-user. I am beating this addiction one day at a time.
It is not to say I don't have my difficult moments but still they are just moments rather than hours or days. It does get easier. I really think now I have to take a serious stupid pill to ever dip again. Then I think of guys who have been exactly in my shoes who caved and why did they do so? Is it a moment of stupidity? A fuck it attitude? The guilt I would have if that was me. Worse than Catholic (times) Jewish guilt but still I feel for them and wish they had been stronger willed.
Short story:
I ran into a kid, he is 25 years younger than me so kid he is, who was dipping the other day. I said why don't you quit that junk? The answer somewhat surprised me with his brutal honesty. "I don't want to!" I was surprised because I wanted to quit but didn't forever. This kid has been dipping for at least 10 years and he doesn't want to? He must be some US Tobacco Superman because my ass wanted to quit a bunch of times by that year mark. I don't want to, please. Still I tried to say all the right things like it will kill you or it is expensive or don't your gums hurt? No luck. The kid was resolute with his decision. I left him and saying come talk to me one day when you want to quit because it will come and I can tell you how. You can't win them all.
I am just glad I have 200 in the books and I can look the old wife in the eyes and say nope not today. I am beating this demon one day at a time. Screw you big tobacco! I am so glad to be free of your crap garbage product.
Congrats brother. Keep following your routine and let the days add up. Proud to quit with you today.
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Reflecting on 200 days
It's been awhile and it has been an interesting ride. It hasn't been too bad but I have had some challenges. I have passed the challenges of the first 30-60.days, long road trips, golf outings with the buddies, beers with the usual suspects, mindless house project tasks where a chew would be in my face but here I am at 200 days still rock solid. I honestly couldn't be happier. I can go to the dentist with out a dirty look and lecture from the doc and/or the hygienist. I have lower health insurance being a non-user. I am beating this addiction one day at a time.
It is not to say I don't have my difficult moments but still they are just moments rather than hours or days. It does get easier. I really think now I have to take a serious stupid pill to ever dip again. Then I think of guys who have been exactly in my shoes who caved and why did they do so? Is it a moment of stupidity? A fuck it attitude? The guilt I would have if that was me. Worse than Catholic (times) Jewish guilt but still I feel for them and wish they had been stronger willed.
Short story:
I ran into a kid, he is 25 years younger than me so kid he is, who was dipping the other day. I said why don't you quit that junk? The answer somewhat surprised me with his brutal honesty. "I don't want to!" I was surprised because I wanted to quit but didn't forever. This kid has been dipping for at least 10 years and he doesn't want to? He must be some US Tobacco Superman because my ass wanted to quit a bunch of times by that year mark. I don't want to, please. Still I tried to say all the right things like it will kill you or it is expensive or don't your gums hurt? No luck. The kid was resolute with his decision. I left him and saying come talk to me one day when you want to quit because it will come and I can tell you how. You can't win them all.
I am just glad I have 200 in the books and I can look the old wife in the eyes and say nope not today. I am beating this demon one day at a time. Screw you big tobacco! I am so glad to be free of your crap garbage product.
Congrats brother. Keep following your routine and let the days add up. Proud to quit with you today.
Great job CTF, love seeing you win and post about it.
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Reflecting on 200 days
It's been awhile and it has been an interesting ride. It hasn't been too bad but I have had some challenges. I have passed the challenges of the first 30-60.days, long road trips, golf outings with the buddies, beers with the usual suspects, mindless house project tasks where a chew would be in my face but here I am at 200 days still rock solid. I honestly couldn't be happier. I can go to the dentist with out a dirty look and lecture from the doc and/or the hygienist. I have lower health insurance being a non-user. I am beating this addiction one day at a time.
It is not to say I don't have my difficult moments but still they are just moments rather than hours or days. It does get easier. I really think now I have to take a serious stupid pill to ever dip again. Then I think of guys who have been exactly in my shoes who caved and why did they do so? Is it a moment of stupidity? A fuck it attitude? The guilt I would have if that was me. Worse than Catholic (times) Jewish guilt but still I feel for them and wish they had been stronger willed.
Short story:
I ran into a kid, he is 25 years younger than me so kid he is, who was dipping the other day. I said why don't you quit that junk? The answer somewhat surprised me with his brutal honesty. "I don't want to!" I was surprised because I wanted to quit but didn't forever. This kid has been dipping for at least 10 years and he doesn't want to? He must be some US Tobacco Superman because my ass wanted to quit a bunch of times by that year mark. I don't want to, please. Still I tried to say all the right things like it will kill you or it is expensive or don't your gums hurt? No luck. The kid was resolute with his decision. I left him and saying come talk to me one day when you want to quit because it will come and I can tell you how. You can't win them all.
I am just glad I have 200 in the books and I can look the old wife in the eyes and say nope not today. I am beating this demon one day at a time. Screw you big tobacco! I am so glad to be free of your crap garbage product.
Congrats brother. Keep following your routine and let the days add up. Proud to quit with you today.
Great job CTF, love seeing you win and post about it.
Great stuff CTF, I have a friend who also doesn't want to quit. Despite the fact that myself and one of our other buddies are bot quit for almost the same amount of time. Tried again to talk some sense into him last weekend to no avail. All we can do is try. We can help them along the way, but they have to make the choice. He will realize sooner or later and come asking you.
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Reflecting on 200 days
It's been awhile and it has been an interesting ride. It hasn't been too bad but I have had some challenges. I have passed the challenges of the first 30-60.days, long road trips, golf outings with the buddies, beers with the usual suspects, mindless house project tasks where a chew would be in my face but here I am at 200 days still rock solid. I honestly couldn't be happier. I can go to the dentist with out a dirty look and lecture from the doc and/or the hygienist. I have lower health insurance being a non-user. I am beating this addiction one day at a time.
It is not to say I don't have my difficult moments but still they are just moments rather than hours or days. It does get easier. I really think now I have to take a serious stupid pill to ever dip again. Then I think of guys who have been exactly in my shoes who caved and why did they do so? Is it a moment of stupidity? A fuck it attitude? The guilt I would have if that was me. Worse than Catholic (times) Jewish guilt but still I feel for them and wish they had been stronger willed.
Short story:
I ran into a kid, he is 25 years younger than me so kid he is, who was dipping the other day. I said why don't you quit that junk? The answer somewhat surprised me with his brutal honesty. "I don't want to!" I was surprised because I wanted to quit but didn't forever. This kid has been dipping for at least 10 years and he doesn't want to? He must be some US Tobacco Superman because my ass wanted to quit a bunch of times by that year mark. I don't want to, please. Still I tried to say all the right things like it will kill you or it is expensive or don't your gums hurt? No luck. The kid was resolute with his decision. I left him and saying come talk to me one day when you want to quit because it will come and I can tell you how. You can't win them all.
I am just glad I have 200 in the books and I can look the old wife in the eyes and say nope not today. I am beating this demon one day at a time. Screw you big tobacco! I am so glad to be free of your crap garbage product.
Congrats brother. Keep following your routine and let the days add up. Proud to quit with you today.
Great job CTF, love seeing you win and post about it.
Great stuff CTF, I have a friend who also doesn't want to quit. Despite the fact that myself and one of our other buddies are bot quit for almost the same amount of time. Tried again to talk some sense into him last weekend to no avail. All we can do is try. We can help them along the way, but they have to make the choice. He will realize sooner or later and come asking you.
CTF Log Day 215
As I write this there is 25 guests viewing these pages. 25 people who are on the verge of saying I'm done. If you're reading this and you are considering quitting just do it. It will suck for a little while but it will be worth it in the long run. Happy New Year! Now make that resolution and quit.
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CTF day 219
For some time now, maybe a month, I have been fighting the urge to chew. I am saying this not trying to alarm anyone but I am being truthful about my journey and it is happening. I mitigate these moments of temptation/stupidity with the realization that I don't want to go back to chewing, dealing with mouth sores, having my jaw hurt, my gums bleed, stinky breath, yellow teeth, dealing with a bottle of chew spit that will eventually be spilled, the possibility of cancer or dying from this shit, etc.
These moments are just that but I have been experiencing them multiple times a day. Usually they last 15-30 seconds and I am past it. I have enough willpower/resolve to get through this. Strange though how I am past physical addiction but my mind keeps playing with me from time to time.
What helped me tonight was reading the drama going on in April 21. There were some epic posts by: @Batdad (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2) @69franx (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=26) @EXBEARHAG (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=14879) @FH (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=16486) @Athan (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=258) and I am sure I missed someone but those names come to mind. All of their words spoke to me basically saying don't be stupid and you are 219 days down the road and going back to day 1 is a fools choice.
These moments of craving makes me ask myself:
Why is this happening?
Will this continue and if so for how long?
I expect no one person has a good answer for me because all of our journeies are unique to oneself. Still I am trying to understand more aboutme. Stupid ass nicotine how I hate you.
Stay Strong my friends.
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CTF day 219
For some time now, maybe a month, I have been fighting the urge to chew. I am saying this not trying to alarm anyone but I am being truthful about my journey and it is happening. I mitigate these moments of temptation/stupidity with the realization that I don't want to go back to chewing, dealing with mouth sores, having my jaw hurt, my gums bleed, stinky breath, yellow teeth, dealing with a bottle of chew spit that will eventually be spilled, the possibility of cancer or dying from this shit, etc.
These moments are just that but I have been experiencing them multiple times a day. Usually they last 15-30 seconds and I am past it. I have enough willpower/resolve to get through this. Strange though how I am past physical addiction but my mind keeps playing with me from time to time.
What helped me tonight was reading the drama going on in April 21. There were some epic posts by: @Batdad (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2) @69franx (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=26) @EXBEARHAG (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=14879) @FH (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=16486) @Athan (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=258) and I am sure I missed someone but those names come to mind. All of their words spoke to me basically saying don't be stupid and you are 219 days down the road and going back to day 1 is a fools choice.
These moments of craving makes me ask myself:
Why is this happening?
Will this continue and if so for how long?
I expect no one person has a good answer for me because all of our journeys are unique to oneself. Still I am trying to understand more about me. Stupid ass nicotine how I hate you.
Stay Strong my friends.
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CTF day 219
For some time now, maybe a month, I have been fighting the urge to chew. I am saying this not trying to alarm anyone but I am being truthful about my journey and it is happening. I mitigate these moments of temptation/stupidity with the realization that I don't want to go back to chewing, dealing with mouth sores, having my jaw hurt, my gums bleed, stinky breath, yellow teeth, dealing with a bottle of chew spit that will eventually be spilled, the possibility of cancer or dying from this shit, etc.
These moments are just that but I have been experiencing them multiple times a day. Usually they last 15-30 seconds and I am past it. I have enough willpower/resolve to get through this. Strange though how I am past physical addiction but my mind keeps playing with me from time to time.
What helped me tonight was reading the drama going on in April 21. There were some epic posts by: @Batdad (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2) @69franx (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=26) @EXBEARHAG (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=14879) @FH (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=16486) @Athan (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=258) and I am sure I missed someone but those names come to mind. All of their words spoke to me basically saying don't be stupid and you are 219 days down the road and going back to day 1 is a fools choice.
These moments of craving makes me ask myself:
Why is this happening?
Will this continue and if so for how long?
I expect no one person has a good answer for me because all of our journeies are unique to oneself. Still I am trying to understand more aboutme. Stupid ass nicotine how I hate you.
Stay Strong my friends.
Honored that I could help you quit just one more day.
You're at a weird stage in your quit. It's lost its luster.... you question if you'll ever be free from its clutches. You start looking off to the horizon, wondering if you can do this forever.... wondering if you can do this by yourself....
We've all been there in some form or fashion. All I know is, it gets better. You've been hearing those words for the last 200+ days. And you know they are true. I promise you the best is still to come. If you're here long enough you start to see some of the patterns. You'll see people leave, only to com e back and post a day 1..... and some of those people end up not making it... and there's people that just silently become slaves again.
Keep posting roll every day. One of the best ways to fight craves is find a fresh new quitter and take them under your wing. When you have someone looking up to you, it will strengthen your own quit. And when you see someone struggling through that first week, it's a great reminder that you NEVER want to be there again.
Sorry for being king winded....
Proud to be quit with you today.
batman-wink
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CTF day 219
For some time now, maybe a month, I have been fighting the urge to chew. I am saying this not trying to alarm anyone but I am being truthful about my journey and it is happening. I mitigate these moments of temptation/stupidity with the realization that I don't want to go back to chewing, dealing with mouth sores, having my jaw hurt, my gums bleed, stinky breath, yellow teeth, dealing with a bottle of chew spit that will eventually be spilled, the possibility of cancer or dying from this shit, etc.
These moments are just that but I have been experiencing them multiple times a day. Usually they last 15-30 seconds and I am past it. I have enough willpower/resolve to get through this. Strange though how I am past physical addiction but my mind keeps playing with me from time to time.
What helped me tonight was reading the drama going on in April 21. There were some epic posts by: @Batdad (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2) @69franx (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=26) @EXBEARHAG (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=14879) @FH (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=16486) @Athan (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=258) and I am sure I missed someone but those names come to mind. All of their words spoke to me basically saying don't be stupid and you are 219 days down the road and going back to day 1 is a fools choice.
These moments of craving makes me ask myself:
Why is this happening?
Will this continue and if so for how long?
I expect no one person has a good answer for me because all of our journeies are unique to oneself. Still I am trying to understand more aboutme. Stupid ass nicotine how I hate you.
Stay Strong my friends.
Honored that I could help you quit just one more day.
You're at a weird stage in your quit. It's lost its luster.... you question if you'll ever be free from its clutches. You start looking off to the horizon, wondering if you can do this forever.... wondering if you can do this by yourself....
We've all been there in some form or fashion. All I know is, it gets better. You've been hearing those words for the last 200+ days. And you know they are true. I promise you the best is still to come. If you're here long enough you start to see some of the patterns. You'll see people leave, only to com e back and post a day 1..... and some of those people end up not making it... and there's people that just silently become slaves again.
Keep posting roll every day. One of the best ways to fight craves is find a fresh new quitter and take them under your wing. When you have someone looking up to you, it will strengthen your own quit. And when you see someone struggling through that first week, it's a great reminder that you NEVER want to be there again.
Sorry for being king winded....
Proud to be quit with you today.
batman-wink
Hang in there brother! Days 200-300 for me had some horrible f*ucked up days with cravings, funk, and fog. I felt like that this shit should be long behind me. Then a short time after day 300 it was like the sun shining after a nasty storm...everything changed. I still have cravings now but my head is clear and zero effects that I used to have.
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CTF day 219
For some time now, maybe a month, I have been fighting the urge to chew. I am saying this not trying to alarm anyone but I am being truthful about my journey and it is happening. I mitigate these moments of temptation/stupidity with the realization that I don't want to go back to chewing, dealing with mouth sores, having my jaw hurt, my gums bleed, stinky breath, yellow teeth, dealing with a bottle of chew spit that will eventually be spilled, the possibility of cancer or dying from this shit, etc.
These moments are just that but I have been experiencing them multiple times a day. Usually they last 15-30 seconds and I am past it. I have enough willpower/resolve to get through this. Strange though how I am past physical addiction but my mind keeps playing with me from time to time.
What helped me tonight was reading the drama going on in April 21. There were some epic posts by: @Batdad (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2) @69franx (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=26) @EXBEARHAG (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=14879) @FH (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=16486) @Athan (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=258) and I am sure I missed someone but those names come to mind. All of their words spoke to me basically saying don't be stupid and you are 219 days down the road and going back to day 1 is a fools choice.
These moments of craving makes me ask myself:
Why is this happening?
Will this continue and if so for how long?
I expect no one person has a good answer for me because all of our journeies are unique to oneself. Still I am trying to understand more aboutme. Stupid ass nicotine how I hate you.
Stay Strong my friends.
Honored that I could help you quit just one more day.
You're at a weird stage in your quit. It's lost its luster.... you question if you'll ever be free from its clutches. You start looking off to the horizon, wondering if you can do this forever.... wondering if you can do this by yourself....
We've all been there in some form or fashion. All I know is, it gets better. You've been hearing those words for the last 200+ days. And you know they are true. I promise you the best is still to come. If you're here long enough you start to see some of the patterns. You'll see people leave, only to com e back and post a day 1..... and some of those people end up not making it... and there's people that just silently become slaves again.
Keep posting roll every day. One of the best ways to fight craves is find a fresh new quitter and take them under your wing. When you have someone looking up to you, it will strengthen your own quit. And when you see someone struggling through that first week, it's a great reminder that you NEVER want to be there again.
Sorry for being king winded....
Proud to be quit with you today.
batman-wink
Hang in there brother! Days 200-300 for me had some horrible f*ucked up days with cravings, funk, and fog. I felt like that this shit should be long behind me. Then a short time after day 300 it was like the sun shining after a nasty storm...everything changed. I still have cravings now but my head is clear and zero effects that I used to have.
Just remember we are all there for you and each other... if it take one min at a time then do it.... message me if you need me...
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CTF day 219
For some time now, maybe a month, I have been fighting the urge to chew. I am saying this not trying to alarm anyone but I am being truthful about my journey and it is happening. I mitigate these moments of temptation/stupidity with the realization that I don't want to go back to chewing, dealing with mouth sores, having my jaw hurt, my gums bleed, stinky breath, yellow teeth, dealing with a bottle of chew spit that will eventually be spilled, the possibility of cancer or dying from this shit, etc.
These moments are just that but I have been experiencing them multiple times a day. Usually they last 15-30 seconds and I am past it. I have enough willpower/resolve to get through this. Strange though how I am past physical addiction but my mind keeps playing with me from time to time.
What helped me tonight was reading the drama going on in April 21. There were some epic posts by: @Batdad (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2) @69franx (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=26) @EXBEARHAG (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=14879) @FH (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=16486) @Athan (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=258) and I am sure I missed someone but those names come to mind. All of their words spoke to me basically saying don't be stupid and you are 219 days down the road and going back to day 1 is a fools choice.
These moments of craving makes me ask myself:
Why is this happening?
Will this continue and if so for how long?
I expect no one person has a good answer for me because all of our journeies are unique to oneself. Still I am trying to understand more aboutme. Stupid ass nicotine how I hate you.
Stay Strong my friends.
Honored that I could help you quit just one more day.
You're at a weird stage in your quit. It's lost its luster.... you question if you'll ever be free from its clutches. You start looking off to the horizon, wondering if you can do this forever.... wondering if you can do this by yourself....
We've all been there in some form or fashion. All I know is, it gets better. You've been hearing those words for the last 200+ days. And you know they are true. I promise you the best is still to come. If you're here long enough you start to see some of the patterns. You'll see people leave, only to com e back and post a day 1..... and some of those people end up not making it... and there's people that just silently become slaves again.
Keep posting roll every day. One of the best ways to fight craves is find a fresh new quitter and take them under your wing. When you have someone looking up to you, it will strengthen your own quit. And when you see someone struggling through that first week, it's a great reminder that you NEVER want to be there again.
Sorry for being king winded....
Proud to be quit with you today.
batman-wink
Hang in there brother! Days 200-300 for me had some horrible f*ucked up days with cravings, funk, and fog. I felt like that this shit should be long behind me. Then a short time after day 300 it was like the sun shining after a nasty storm...everything changed. I still have cravings now but my head is clear and zero effects that I used to have.
Just remember we are all there for you and each other... if it take one min at a time then do it.... message me if you need me...
What you are experiencing is incredibly common and something I experienced as well. It is the reason we really try to drive home the fact that the HOF is merely the end of the beginning. Slumps and periods of urges happen at various stages throughout the first couple years. The best advice I can give is to stay close to the site, post early EDD and keep those digits handy. Drink water, exercise and find some candies or seeds or fake to curb the intense cravings.
There will always be peaks and valleys in this journey. I've always said to enjoy the periods of smooth sailing and fight like hell during the tough times. Remember, what you are experiencing will pass. Keep fighting brother and proud to be quit with you today.
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CTF day 219
For some time now, maybe a month, I have been fighting the urge to chew. I am saying this not trying to alarm anyone but I am being truthful about my journey and it is happening. I mitigate these moments of temptation/stupidity with the realization that I don't want to go back to chewing, dealing with mouth sores, having my jaw hurt, my gums bleed, stinky breath, yellow teeth, dealing with a bottle of chew spit that will eventually be spilled, the possibility of cancer or dying from this shit, etc.
These moments are just that but I have been experiencing them multiple times a day. Usually they last 15-30 seconds and I am past it. I have enough willpower/resolve to get through this. Strange though how I am past physical addiction but my mind keeps playing with me from time to time.
What helped me tonight was reading the drama going on in April 21. There were some epic posts by: @Batdad (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2) @69franx (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=26) @EXBEARHAG (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=14879) @FH (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=16486) @Athan (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=258) and I am sure I missed someone but those names come to mind. All of their words spoke to me basically saying don't be stupid and you are 219 days down the road and going back to day 1 is a fools choice.
These moments of craving makes me ask myself:
Why is this happening?
Will this continue and if so for how long?
I expect no one person has a good answer for me because all of our journeies are unique to oneself. Still I am trying to understand more aboutme. Stupid ass nicotine how I hate you.
Stay Strong my friends.
Honored that I could help you quit just one more day.
You're at a weird stage in your quit. It's lost its luster.... you question if you'll ever be free from its clutches. You start looking off to the horizon, wondering if you can do this forever.... wondering if you can do this by yourself....
We've all been there in some form or fashion. All I know is, it gets better. You've been hearing those words for the last 200+ days. And you know they are true. I promise you the best is still to come. If you're here long enough you start to see some of the patterns. You'll see people leave, only to com e back and post a day 1..... and some of those people end up not making it... and there's people that just silently become slaves again.
Keep posting roll every day. One of the best ways to fight craves is find a fresh new quitter and take them under your wing. When you have someone looking up to you, it will strengthen your own quit. And when you see someone struggling through that first week, it's a great reminder that you NEVER want to be there again.
Sorry for being king winded....
Proud to be quit with you today.
batman-wink
Hang in there brother! Days 200-300 for me had some horrible f*ucked up days with cravings, funk, and fog. I felt like that this shit should be long behind me. Then a short time after day 300 it was like the sun shining after a nasty storm...everything changed. I still have cravings now but my head is clear and zero effects that I used to have.
Just remember we are all there for you and each other... if it take one min at a time then do it.... message me if you need me...
What you are experiencing is incredibly common and something I experienced as well. It is the reason we really try to drive home the fact that the HOF is merely the end of the beginning. Slumps and periods of urges happen at various stages throughout the first couple years. The best advice I can give is to stay close to the site, post early EDD and keep those digits handy. Drink water, exercise and find some candies or seeds or fake to curb the intense cravings.
There will always be peaks and valleys in this journey. I've always said to enjoy the periods of smooth sailing and fight like hell during the tough times. Remember, what you are experiencing will pass. Keep fighting brother and proud to be quit with you today.
Hey CTF. I may be the wrong person to respond to this one. I feel like a little bitch whenever I think about how often I crave and how much mental energy I use to fight them off. I feel somewhat unique in this as I do not see too many posts like yours out there...especially from folks past the HOF.
That being said, the difference in these craves from day 100 to present (539) is not even comparable. The more time and space I put between myself and the can, the brighter the light at the end of the tunnel becomes.
Unfortunately, as you know, there is no silver bullet. We are addicts...always will be. As a result, we will ALWAYS have to fight this battle in one way or another. Bright side: you will never have to do it alone!!!
Shoulder to shoulder with you my friend.
~HAG
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CTF day 219
For some time now, maybe a month, I have been fighting the urge to chew. I am saying this not trying to alarm anyone but I am being truthful about my journey and it is happening. I mitigate these moments of temptation/stupidity with the realization that I don't want to go back to chewing, dealing with mouth sores, having my jaw hurt, my gums bleed, stinky breath, yellow teeth, dealing with a bottle of chew spit that will eventually be spilled, the possibility of cancer or dying from this shit, etc.
These moments are just that but I have been experiencing them multiple times a day. Usually they last 15-30 seconds and I am past it. I have enough willpower/resolve to get through this. Strange though how I am past physical addiction but my mind keeps playing with me from time to time.
What helped me tonight was reading the drama going on in April 21. There were some epic posts by: @Batdad (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2) @69franx (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=26) @EXBEARHAG (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=14879) @FH (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=16486) @Athan (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=258) and I am sure I missed someone but those names come to mind. All of their words spoke to me basically saying don't be stupid and you are 219 days down the road and going back to day 1 is a fools choice.
These moments of craving makes me ask myself:
Why is this happening?
Will this continue and if so for how long?
I expect no one person has a good answer for me because all of our journeies are unique to oneself. Still I am trying to understand more aboutme. Stupid ass nicotine how I hate you.
Stay Strong my friends.
Honored that I could help you quit just one more day.
You're at a weird stage in your quit. It's lost its luster.... you question if you'll ever be free from its clutches. You start looking off to the horizon, wondering if you can do this forever.... wondering if you can do this by yourself....
We've all been there in some form or fashion. All I know is, it gets better. You've been hearing those words for the last 200+ days. And you know they are true. I promise you the best is still to come. If you're here long enough you start to see some of the patterns. You'll see people leave, only to com e back and post a day 1..... and some of those people end up not making it... and there's people that just silently become slaves again.
Keep posting roll every day. One of the best ways to fight craves is find a fresh new quitter and take them under your wing. When you have someone looking up to you, it will strengthen your own quit. And when you see someone struggling through that first week, it's a great reminder that you NEVER want to be there again.
Sorry for being king winded....
Proud to be quit with you today.
batman-wink
Hang in there brother! Days 200-300 for me had some horrible f*ucked up days with cravings, funk, and fog. I felt like that this shit should be long behind me. Then a short time after day 300 it was like the sun shining after a nasty storm...everything changed. I still have cravings now but my head is clear and zero effects that I used to have.
Just remember we are all there for you and each other... if it take one min at a time then do it.... message me if you need me...
What you are experiencing is incredibly common and something I experienced as well. It is the reason we really try to drive home the fact that the HOF is merely the end of the beginning. Slumps and periods of urges happen at various stages throughout the first couple years. The best advice I can give is to stay close to the site, post early EDD and keep those digits handy. Drink water, exercise and find some candies or seeds or fake to curb the intense cravings.
There will always be peaks and valleys in this journey. I've always said to enjoy the periods of smooth sailing and fight like hell during the tough times. Remember, what you are experiencing will pass. Keep fighting brother and proud to be quit with you today.
Hey CTF. I may be the wrong person to respond to this one. I feel like a little bitch whenever I think about how often I crave and how much mental energy I use to fight them off. I feel somewhat unique in this as I do not see too many posts like yours out there...especially from folks past the HOF.
That being said, the difference in these craves from day 100 to present (539) is not even comparable. The more time and space I put between myself and the can, the brighter the light at the end of the tunnel becomes.
Unfortunately, as you know, there is no silver bullet. We are addicts...always will be. As a result, we will ALWAYS have to fight this battle in one way or another. Bright side: you will never have to do it alone!!!
Shoulder to shoulder with you my friend.
~HAG
Thanks buddy! No wiser words will I read today.
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11 guests viewing..
I have 5 little questions if you can give me 2 minutes of your time. Just 120 seconds might change your life.
If you are reading this and you aren't part of this site ask yourself:
1) Why are you here?
2) Why do you keep chewing/using tobacco when you know you want to quit?
3) Why don't you take a serious step this time and quit for good?
4) Why do you keep promising yourself you will quit only to cave into nicotine?
5) Why don't you be accountable to yourself and quit?
Addiction sucks. It's expensive and it can take more from you than your money. You know what I am talking about but that can't happen to you. That always happens to someone else never you. That's what I used to think too back when I chewed. I used to freak out over any little bump on a gum or cheek or any sore on my tongue or in my mouth. I would make deals with God that I'd quit this time if it didn't turn out to be cancer only to fall back into addiction. Yeah I know where you are. You want to quit or you wouldn't be reading this.
Bottom line:
It will suck for awhile until it doesn't but the payout is so worth it if you take this seriously and quit for good. What do you have to lose?
Stop lurking and start doing. This is your golden opportunity to get serious about helping yourself be better. Gather some courage and make it happen and I promise in time you will look back on your accomplishment and think why didn't you do this sooner.
CTF
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4 guests in intros right now. I hope they are all reading this quit gold up above me here ^^^. Thanx for sharing and caring CTF!
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11 guests viewing..
I have 5 little questions if you can give me 2 minutes of your time. Just 120 seconds might change your life.
If you are reading this and you aren't part of this site ask yourself:
1) Why are you here?
2) Why do you keep chewing/using tobacco when you know you want to quit?
3) Why don't you take a serious step this time and quit for good?
4) Why do you keep promising yourself you will quit only to cave into nicotine?
5) Why don't you be accountable to yourself and quit?
Addiction sucks. It's expensive and it can take more from you than your money. You know what I am talking about but that can't happen to you. That always happens to someone else never you. That's what I used to think too back when I chewed. I used to freak out over any little bump on a gum or cheek or any sore on my tongue or in my mouth. I would make deals with God that I'd quit this time if it didn't turn out to be cancer only to fall back into addiction. Yeah I know where you are. You want to quit or you wouldn't be reading this.
Bottom line:
It will suck for awhile until it doesn't but the payout is so worth it if you take this seriously and quit for good. What do you have to lose?
Stop lurking and start doing. This is your golden opportunity to get serious about helping yourself be better. Gather some courage and make it happen and I promise in time you will look back on your accomplishment and think why didn't you do this sooner.
CTF
Wish all the guests would read this. Well said CTF!
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Day 326
Tonight on the way to my daughter's softball practice, for the first time in nearly a year, I stopped at a C- store. It was strange being in one. I wasn't there to buy a can but rather a bag of dill pickle sunflower seeds. Spits to be exact. It was very liberating to walk out of there with my $1.99 bag of seeds and not a can.
Fuck off big tobacco. I am happy not being a customer any longer.
CTF
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CTF 333
It amazes me to see so many guests online right now. The power of a Google search engine brought you here as it did me nearly a year ago. If I could pass on some truth to you this might make your choice to quit easier:
1) It is fantastic to be a quitter, it just is
2) I was thinking today how healthy my mouth feels
3) It is liberating not sneaking off to get a fix, no shame here
4) Being honest with yourself and loved ones is wonderful and rewarding
5) Seeing others/friends chew is sad and you feel bad for them
I could go on but you get it.
Just do yourself a favor and give it a shot. Give yourself an honest chance to be free from tobacco and be a recovering addict rather than part of an addiction. I promise you that if you can find enough strength and seriously quit that you won't regret it. It is impossible to feel better being actively addicted to nicotine than it is to be a recovering addict.
Just join the group that aligns with you quit day and though it will suck for awhile once you get past the fog I promise you will understand what I am saying.
CTF
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Day 336
Something I haven't seen to much on in the group is weight gain as a result of your quit. I too experienced the post quit 15 but I couples that with Covid which turned into 25. I have sense been in the gym 3-5 times per week since early February when things started opening up in my state.
Here is my advice to you:
1) Quit but workout. It is a great distraction when your mind wonders to places where you don't want it to go (e.g. this making about the can)
2) Watch what you eat. Seems simple but you will look for that oral fix. I use a hard candy when times are tough.
3) Set the goal to move your ass multiple times per week, whatever it is. I have an electronic calendar that I use to track workouts and it is satisfying to look back and see how much I have done. Also it is an aid to tell me to get back in the gym
4)Last one weight and cardio are great but best when they are together. I am getting older and can't lift like I used to, which was a lot. I got medium now 15-20 reps and check the who at the door. I don't care anymore and need my shoulders to be functional tomorrow. I also try to get some "High Intensity" cardio twice a week.
Result: I am down 15 lbs and out a shit load of muscle bon in 3 months. So I am more fit and not poisoning my body. The wife digs the improvements too.
Get off your ass and do something and stay quit.
Late,
CTF
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Day 336
Something I haven't seen to much on in the group is weight gain as a result of your quit. I too experienced the post quit 15 but I couples that with Covid which turned into 25. I have sense been in the gym 3-5 times per week since early February when things started opening up in my state.
Here is my advice to you:
1) Quit but workout. It is a great distraction when your mind wonders to places where you don't want it to go (e.g. the quit is making you think about the can)
2) Watch what you eat. Seems simple but you will look for that oral fix. I use a hard candy when times are tough.
3) Set the goal to move your ass multiple times per week, whatever it is. I have an electronic calendar that I use to track workouts and it is satisfying to look back and see how much I have done. Also it is an aid to tell me to get back in the gym
4) Last one weight and cardio are great but best when they are together. I am getting older and can't lift like I used to, which was a lot. I go medium now 15-20 reps and check the ego at the door. I don't care anymore and need my shoulders to be functional tomorrow. I also try to get some "High Intensity" cardio twice a week.
Result: I am down 15 lbs and put on a shit load of muscle in 3 months. I am more fit and not poisoning my body. The wife digs the improvements too.
Get off your ass and do something and stay quit.
Late,
CTF
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Day 336
Something I haven't seen to much on in the group is weight gain as a result of your quit. I too experienced the post quit 15 but I couples that with Covid which turned into 25. I have sense been in the gym 3-5 times per week since early February when things started opening up in my state.
Here is my advice to you:
1) Quit but workout. It is a great distraction when your mind wonders to places where you don't want it to go (e.g. the quit is making you think about the can)
2) Watch what you eat. Seems simple but you will look for that oral fix. I use a hard candy when times are tough.
3) Set the goal to move your ass multiple times per week, whatever it is. I have an electronic calendar that I use to track workouts and it is satisfying to look back and see how much I have done. Also it is an aid to tell me to get back in the gym
4) Last one weight and cardio are great but best when they are together. I am getting older and can't lift like I used to, which was a lot. I go medium now 15-20 reps and check the ego at the door. I don't care anymore and need my shoulders to be functional tomorrow. I also try to get some "High Intensity" cardio twice a week.
Result: I am down 15 lbs and put on a shit load of muscle in 3 months. I am more fit and not poisoning my body. The wife digs the improvements too.
Get off your ass and do something and stay quit.
Late,
CTF
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Day 336
Something I haven't seen to much on in the group is weight gain as a result of your quit. I too experienced the post quit 15 but I couples that with Covid which turned into 25. I have sense been in the gym 3-5 times per week since early February when things started opening up in my state.
Here is my advice to you:
1) Quit but workout. It is a great distraction when your mind wonders to places where you don't want it to go (e.g. the quit is making you think about the can)
2) Watch what you eat. Seems simple but you will look for that oral fix. I use a hard candy when times are tough.
3) Set the goal to move your ass multiple times per week, whatever it is. I have an electronic calendar that I use to track workouts and it is satisfying to look back and see how much I have done. Also it is an aid to tell me to get back in the gym
4) Last one weight and cardio are great but best when they are together. I am getting older and can't lift like I used to, which was a lot. I go medium now 15-20 reps and check the ego at the door. I don't care anymore and need my shoulders to be functional tomorrow. I also try to get some "High Intensity" cardio twice a week.
Result: I am down 15 lbs and put on a shit load of muscle in 3 months. I am more fit and not poisoning my body. The wife digs the improvements too.
Get off your ass and do something and stay quit.
Late,
CTF
Really good advice for both newbies and vets, CTF!
I am on the rollercoaster. I initially gained 10 lbs. Did what you are doing now, and lost the weight and felt very good. But once I stopped working out due to a back injury from trying to do too much, the weight started piling on. I am going to take your advice and lift lighter, but I am also trying to figure out a diet that works for me. Any guidance there @CTF (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=17775) ?
A healthy body = healthy mind!
Proud to quit with you today.
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Day 336
Something I haven't seen to much on in the group is weight gain as a result of your quit. I too experienced the post quit 15 but I couples that with Covid which turned into 25. I have sense been in the gym 3-5 times per week since early February when things started opening up in my state.
Here is my advice to you:
1) Quit but workout. It is a great distraction when your mind wonders to places where you don't want it to go (e.g. the quit is making you think about the can)
2) Watch what you eat. Seems simple but you will look for that oral fix. I use a hard candy when times are tough.
3) Set the goal to move your ass multiple times per week, whatever it is. I have an electronic calendar that I use to track workouts and it is satisfying to look back and see how much I have done. Also it is an aid to tell me to get back in the gym
4) Last one weight and cardio are great but best when they are together. I am getting older and can't lift like I used to, which was a lot. I go medium now 15-20 reps and check the ego at the door. I don't care anymore and need my shoulders to be functional tomorrow. I also try to get some "High Intensity" cardio twice a week.
Result: I am down 15 lbs and put on a shit load of muscle in 3 months. I am more fit and not poisoning my body. The wife digs the improvements too.
Get off your ass and do something and stay quit.
Late,
CTF
Really good advice for both newbies and vets, CTF!
I am on the rollercoaster. I initially gained 10 lbs. Did what you are doing now, and lost the weight and felt very good. But once I stopped working out due to a back injury from trying to do too much, the weight started piling on. I am going to take your advice and lift lighter, but I am also trying to figure out a diet that works for me. Any guidance there @CTF (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=17775) ?
A healthy body = healthy mind!
Proud to quit with you today.
Great question. I can only offer what works for me @oldschool (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1411) . My best advice is portion control and watch the snacking on sugary stuff. I also eat a lot of fiber and drink at least 3L of water per day. I did a little trick at dinner of eating cottage cheese with most meals. It's lower in calories and is filling. I also cut out alcohol. Sad but true.
If you want to go hard core you can do the no fun diet. If it is fun or has sugar in it you can't eat it.
So basically up the fiber and water, have smaller portions and cut out alcohol and sugars.
Lifting: light with more reps is the way to go. Hit a machine on whatever body part do 20 reps of the exercise see if you are fatigued and if so that is the right amount. I have become leaner and bigger with this trick but without the pain.
I hope this helps!
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Day 344
Right now I feel that I am on cruise control with my quit. No whacked out dreams or cravings (touch wood). I have to think it has something to do with eating better, drink a lot of water and the workouts. It is also fast pitch softball season, my daughter, so there is an abundance of sunflower seeds.
I am just grateful I am where I am and almost at the year mark.
Though in a sad note: learned of a former co-worker, a great person, who passed away in his 40's from a heart attack. He was this awesome Hawaiian dude who looked like Buddha. I think looking like Buddha is what got him. It's Sad as he is survived by his wife and young daughter.
Be good to yourself and to others. Life is short.
Cheers CTF
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Day 344
Right now I feel that I am on cruise control with my quit. No whacked out dreams or cravings (touch wood). I have to think it has something to do with eating better, drink a lot of water and the workouts. It is also fast pitch softball season, my daughter, so there is an abundance of sunflower seeds.
I am just grateful I am where I am and almost at the year mark.
Though in a sad note: learned of a former co-worker, a great person, who passed away in his 40's from a heart attack. He was this awesome Hawaiian dude who looked like Buddha. I think looking like Buddha is what got him. It's Sad as he is survived by his wife and young daughter.
Be good to yourself and to others. Life is short.
Cheers CTF
Stay strong my friend. Cruise control feels good until you hit the ponding water that you were not prepared for. Believe me it will happen so be ready as I have had a few myself. I feel for ya and your friend because my quit has provided me with that style stomach but family genes also have helped. Losing weight gets harder the older you get and is even more difficult when you have body parts that need repairing but have been put off for years. Reach out of you need anything as we shall not go it alone. Stay safe, stay quit and God bless.
Doug
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Day 351
I live in Washington State home of the highest sin taxes, or close to it, in the Nation. On my morning drive I saw a sign in a C-store that said: Grizzle Wintergreen $8.75
$8.75 !
Wow. What's a can of Skoal $11? It feels so good to have quit this nasty habit and I saved a buck or 11.
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Day 351
I live in Washington State home of the highest sin taxes, or close to it, in the Nation. On my morning drive I saw a sign in a C-store that said: Grizzle Wintergreen $8.75
$8.75 !
Wow. What's a can of Skoal $11? It feels so good to have quit this nasty habit and I saved a buck or 11.
I live in Missouri, and they don't give two shits if they kill you with tobacco. I saw a new tobacco coming out (shark logo?) for $1.75. It gave me chills thinking about how tempting that is for young kids. Hell, adults, for that matter. Glad to be done with this stuff as well. Proud to quit with you today.
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Day 336
Something I haven't seen to much on in the group is weight gain as a result of your quit. I too experienced the post quit 15 but I couples that with Covid which turned into 25. I have sense been in the gym 3-5 times per week since early February when things started opening up in my state.
Here is my advice to you:
1) Quit but workout. It is a great distraction when your mind wonders to places where you don't want it to go (e.g. the quit is making you think about the can)
2) Watch what you eat. Seems simple but you will look for that oral fix. I use a hard candy when times are tough.
3) Set the goal to move your ass multiple times per week, whatever it is. I have an electronic calendar that I use to track workouts and it is satisfying to look back and see how much I have done. Also it is an aid to tell me to get back in the gym
4) Last one weight and cardio are great but best when they are together. I am getting older and can't lift like I used to, which was a lot. I go medium now 15-20 reps and check the ego at the door. I don't care anymore and need my shoulders to be functional tomorrow. I also try to get some "High Intensity" cardio twice a week.
Result: I am down 15 lbs and put on a shit load of muscle in 3 months. I am more fit and not poisoning my body. The wife digs the improvements too.
Get off your ass and do something and stay quit.
Late,
CTF
Really good advice for both newbies and vets, CTF!
I am on the rollercoaster. I initially gained 10 lbs. Did what you are doing now, and lost the weight and felt very good. But once I stopped working out due to a back injury from trying to do too much, the weight started piling on. I am going to take your advice and lift lighter, but I am also trying to figure out a diet that works for me. Any guidance there @CTF (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=17775) ?
A healthy body = healthy mind!
Proud to quit with you today.
Great question. I can only offer what works for me @oldschool (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1411) . My best advice is portion control and watch the snacking on sugary stuff. I also eat a lot of fiber and drink at least 3L of water per day. I did a little trick at dinner of eating cottage cheese with most meals. It's lower in calories and is filling. I also cut out alcohol. Sad but true.
If you want to go hard core you can do the no fun diet. If it is fun or has sugar in it you can't eat it.
So basically up the fiber and water, have smaller portions and cut out alcohol and sugars.
Lifting: light with more reps is the way to go. Hit a machine on whatever body part do 20 reps of the exercise see if you are fatigued and if so that is the right amount. I have become leaner and bigger with this trick but without the pain.
I hope this helps!
I know this was a bit ago, but with that workout technique, are you still doing split workouts or more of a full body circuit type workout? And how often? 3-4 days per week or daily?
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Day 336
Something I haven't seen to much on in the group is weight gain as a result of your quit. I too experienced the post quit 15 but I couples that with Covid which turned into 25. I have sense been in the gym 3-5 times per week since early February when things started opening up in my state.
Here is my advice to you:
1) Quit but workout. It is a great distraction when your mind wonders to places where you don't want it to go (e.g. the quit is making you think about the can)
2) Watch what you eat. Seems simple but you will look for that oral fix. I use a hard candy when times are tough.
3) Set the goal to move your ass multiple times per week, whatever it is. I have an electronic calendar that I use to track workouts and it is satisfying to look back and see how much I have done. Also it is an aid to tell me to get back in the gym
4) Last one weight and cardio are great but best when they are together. I am getting older and can't lift like I used to, which was a lot. I go medium now 15-20 reps and check the ego at the door. I don't care anymore and need my shoulders to be functional tomorrow. I also try to get some "High Intensity" cardio twice a week.
Result: I am down 15 lbs and put on a shit load of muscle in 3 months. I am more fit and not poisoning my body. The wife digs the improvements too.
Get off your ass and do something and stay quit.
Late,
CTF
Really good advice for both newbies and vets, CTF!
I am on the rollercoaster. I initially gained 10 lbs. Did what you are doing now, and lost the weight and felt very good. But once I stopped working out due to a back injury from trying to do too much, the weight started piling on. I am going to take your advice and lift lighter, but I am also trying to figure out a diet that works for me. Any guidance there @CTF (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=17775) ?
A healthy body = healthy mind!
Proud to quit with you today.
Great question. I can only offer what works for me @oldschool (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1411) . My best advice is portion control and watch the snacking on sugary stuff. I also eat a lot of fiber and drink at least 3L of water per day. I did a little trick at dinner of eating cottage cheese with most meals. It's lower in calories and is filling. I also cut out alcohol. Sad but true.
If you want to go hard core you can do the no fun diet. If it is fun or has sugar in it you can't eat it.
So basically up the fiber and water, have smaller portions and cut out alcohol and sugars.
Lifting: light with more reps is the way to go. Hit a machine on whatever body part do 20 reps of the exercise see if you are fatigued and if so that is the right amount. I have become leaner and bigger with this trick but without the pain.
I hope this helps!
I know this was a bit ago, but with that workout technique, are you still doing split workouts or more of a full body circuit type workout? And how often? 3-4 days per week or daily?
@69franx (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=26)
My workout is:
Day 1 Back and Bi with 30 mins cardio
Day 2 Chest and Tri no cardio
Day 3 Legs and Shoulders 30 mins of cardio
Day 4 All upper body (back, bi, tri, chest)
Day 5 Bike ride or Spin class, eliptical or play golf
I am not perfect nor a machine and when I am tired, sore, both or I just need an extra day I take it off to recover. I am dealing with a bad rotator cuff, a bum knee and I am over 50 and things don't heal as fast.
My biggest advice is to anyone is do something and don't be a hero. Push you self in reps not heavy weight. Do some stretching daily as well. Just 5-10 mins every morning helps me.
One other thing to mention is my eating habits have changed. I used to be a cut carbs guy or terrible restrictions on types of food one can eat. For me a diet of whatever kind isn't sustainable. My solution now is more fiber, drink water and smaller portions and throw in a salad everyone in awhile.
I am down 18 lbs since mid Feb. It is coming off slower than when I was on the no fun diet but I am happier.
I hope this helps.
CTF
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Day 365
I made it a year. Looking back on it the choice to quit was such an obvious one. What didn't I do this sooner? Not to say it hasn't been a challenge but still it isn't that bad. I still think about chewing from time to time, mostly I am repulsed buy the idea of it to be honest. My willpower seems to gain strength everyday but I don't believe I am full on Boys Weekend in Vegas bender strong yet. So boys trips to Vegas are out for a while. Maybe next year.
I posted roll everyday for the last 365, no missed days, and I am proud of that small accomplishment. Anyway, I am happy to be quit with you today and for me today has been a little sweeter.
Peace,
CTF
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Day 365
I made it a year. Looking back on it the choice to quit was such an obvious one. What didn't I do this sooner? Not to say it hasn't been a challenge but still it isn't that bad. I still think about chewing from time to time, mostly I am repulsed buy the idea of it to be honest. My willpower seems to gain strength everyday but I don't believe I am full on Boys Weekend in Vegas bender strong yet. So boys trips to Vegas are out for a while. Maybe next year.
I posted roll everyday for the last 365, no missed days, and I am proud of that small accomplishment. Anyway, I am happy to be quit with you today and for me today has been a little sweeter.
Peace,
CTF
Congratulations brother, well done! It's amazing when you look back on it. Freedom is so magnificent I wonder why we didn't quit sooner.
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Day 365
I made it a year. Looking back on it the choice to quit was such an obvious one. What didn't I do this sooner? Not to say it hasn't been a challenge but still it isn't that bad. I still think about chewing from time to time, mostly I am repulsed buy the idea of it to be honest. My willpower seems to gain strength everyday but I don't believe I am full on Boys Weekend in Vegas bender strong yet. So boys trips to Vegas are out for a while. Maybe next year.
I posted roll everyday for the last 365, no missed days, and I am proud of that small accomplishment. Anyway, I am happy to be quit with you today and for me today has been a little sweeter.
Peace,
CTF
Congratulations brother, well done! It's amazing when you look back on it. Freedom is so magnificent I wonder why we didn't quit sooner.
Congrats sir and well done. Keep doing what you've been doing: kicking nic's ass and helping others!
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Day 365
I made it a year. Looking back on it the choice to quit was such an obvious one. What didn't I do this sooner? Not to say it hasn't been a challenge but still it isn't that bad. I still think about chewing from time to time, mostly I am repulsed buy the idea of it to be honest. My willpower seems to gain strength everyday but I don't believe I am full on Boys Weekend in Vegas bender strong yet. So boys trips to Vegas are out for a while. Maybe next year.
I posted roll everyday for the last 365, no missed days, and I am proud of that small accomplishment. Anyway, I am happy to be quit with you today and for me today has been a little sweeter.
Peace,
CTF
Congratulations brother, well done! It's amazing when you look back on it. Freedom is so magnificent I wonder why we didn't quit sooner.
Congrats sir and well done. Keep doing what you've been doing: kicking nic's ass and helping others!
Awesome job my friend. I have enjoyed being part of your journey as when we help others we actually help ourselves. Keep doing what you are doing and stay strong my friend. We are all in this fight together!!!
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Day 421
I enjoy reading stories on the site and tonight I came across someone who I know... Well kinda know. I looked up @Joey (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=5834) profile, a quitter from long long ago mid 2000s. I met Joey briefly during my Rugby days and actually got to know his Dad, Mark, when I turned to coaching. Joey hasn't posted roll in a long time and I don't expect him to see this but what a small world and good for him. I hope he is still quit. His Dad was a fantastic dude, a good man, who coached rugby at Oregon State for some 30 years. Mark was about to retire and asked me if I was interested in taking over after he left. I wish I could have but it wasn't meant to be.
Small world. Here is to you Joey I hope you continue to be nicotine free.
Cheers!
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CTF 426
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THIS IS NOT MY STORY but I found it on Reddit and I thought how interesting this guys story is. Um yeah pot just like tobacco is bad for you. It sucks to be an addict.
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I’ve smoked weed everyday for most of my life. I’ve always believed it to be a safer alternative to drinking alcohol. People say it all the time; nobody has died from smoking too much weed, you can’t get addicted to marijuana. I truly believed these things. But I WAS addicted and I almost didn’t make it to my 30th birthday today because of it.
The fact that I needed to smoke everyday just to feel normal is testament enough. I wasn’t smoking to get high anymore, I was smoking just to start my day. I felt like I couldn’t function without it. I couldn’t function at all and I’m only realizing this now. I wasted 15 years of my life being stoned and depressed on the couch. I had no desire to do anything that made me happy, I had no desire to do anything at all. Because of weed, I settled for mediocrity every day for 15 years. So much of my life, wasted.
Then I got really sick - vomiting and nausea for two weeks. I lost 20 pounds in that time. The doctors told me to stop smoking and I didn’t listen. It can’t be the weed, I thought. It’s harmless. I choked it up to a bad bottle of wine.
A couple months later, it happened again. This time, vomiting for 5 days. Again, I thought it was just a bad hangover and went to the doctor in hopes of getting an IV to restore my fluids. The doctor had one feel of my chest and I was rushed to the ER with Subcutaneous emphysema as a result of cannabis hyperemesis syndrome. Essentially,I had so much thc built up in my tissues from years of use, it was starting to seep into my digestive tract and it was making me sick. The extreme vomiting that resulted caused me to tear my esophagus which meant air was getting into my chest cavity. The doctor said that my X-rays showed so much air in my chest, that another day or two of vomiting could have resulted in my heart exploding. On my nephew’s first birthday, a week before my 30th. To think of what I could have done to my friends and family breaks my heart.
CHS seems to affect some heavy smokers and not others. Doctors don’t seem to know why, but what my doctor did tell me is I was incredibly lucky to have stopped vomiting when I did. He also told me that nowadays, with weed being legal and THC concentrations being so high, MOST of the cases of nausea and vomiting that come into the ER is related to marijuana use.
Weed is NOT a harmless plant. It’s still a drug, and like any drug there are consequences to its use. We need to be more honest about what these dangers are, both physically and mentally, especially with young people. I almost destroyed so many lives because of my habit. I could have ruined my nephews birthday for everyone, forever. I’ve already wasted so many of my best years being stoned.
I’m quitting cold turkey. I’m not touching the stuff again. I’m just sorry it took this long. I’m celebrating my 30th birthday today SOBER and I’ve never been more excited about life.
If you’ve been thinking about quitting, take this as a sign. Don’t let yourself waste away like I did.
EDIT: Jesus fucking Christ. I came here as an addict to admit I have a problem with weed. The problem is MINE and yet so many of you think you can tell me what I’ve been through. I don’t care if you love weed or if it helped you, it didn’t help me. It was ruining my life. I’m glad I got rid of it and I’m happy to share my story. Call me lazy, call me a liar, say I’m looking for attention, It doesn’t matter. I feel better today because I cut weed out of my life. I have no intention of going back. I’m not saying the drug is evil, but what I am saying is we should be HONEST with ourselves and recognize that like any other drug, weed affects everyone differently and people HAVE and WILL CONTINUE To get sick from it. To say otherwise is crazy. CHS is real, people have died. It’s interesting how many people are experts when it comes to marijuana. Listening to a joe Rogan podcast doesn’t make you an expert. If you’re happy being a stoner, be a fucking stoner. In these comments there are enough stories to prove it’s not the miracle drug so many of you are defending it to be. If you’re trying to quit, please DM me. I’ll cheer you on.
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CTF 426
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THIS IS NOT MY STORY but I found it on Reddit and I thought how interesting this guys story is. Um yeah pot just like tobacco is bad for you. It sucks to be an addict.
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I’ve smoked weed everyday for most of my life. I’ve always believed it to be a safer alternative to drinking alcohol. People say it all the time; nobody has died from smoking too much weed, you can’t get addicted to marijuana. I truly believed these things. But I WAS addicted and I almost didn’t make it to my 30th birthday today because of it.
The fact that I needed to smoke everyday just to feel normal is testament enough. I wasn’t smoking to get high anymore, I was smoking just to start my day. I felt like I couldn’t function without it. I couldn’t function at all and I’m only realizing this now. I wasted 15 years of my life being stoned and depressed on the couch. I had no desire to do anything that made me happy, I had no desire to do anything at all. Because of weed, I settled for mediocrity every day for 15 years. So much of my life, wasted.
Then I got really sick - vomiting and nausea for two weeks. I lost 20 pounds in that time. The doctors told me to stop smoking and I didn’t listen. It can’t be the weed, I thought. It’s harmless. I choked it up to a bad bottle of wine.
A couple months later, it happened again. This time, vomiting for 5 days. Again, I thought it was just a bad hangover and went to the doctor in hopes of getting an IV to restore my fluids. The doctor had one feel of my chest and I was rushed to the ER with Subcutaneous emphysema as a result of cannabis hyperemesis syndrome. Essentially,I had so much thc built up in my tissues from years of use, it was starting to seep into my digestive tract and it was making me sick. The extreme vomiting that resulted caused me to tear my esophagus which meant air was getting into my chest cavity. The doctor said that my X-rays showed so much air in my chest, that another day or two of vomiting could have resulted in my heart exploding. On my nephew’s first birthday, a week before my 30th. To think of what I could have done to my friends and family breaks my heart.
CHS seems to affect some heavy smokers and not others. Doctors don’t seem to know why, but what my doctor did tell me is I was incredibly lucky to have stopped vomiting when I did. He also told me that nowadays, with weed being legal and THC concentrations being so high, MOST of the cases of nausea and vomiting that come into the ER is related to marijuana use.
Weed is NOT a harmless plant. It’s still a drug, and like any drug there are consequences to its use. We need to be more honest about what these dangers are, both physically and mentally, especially with young people. I almost destroyed so many lives because of my habit. I could have ruined my nephews birthday for everyone, forever. I’ve already wasted so many of my best years being stoned.
I’m quitting cold turkey. I’m not touching the stuff again. I’m just sorry it took this long. I’m celebrating my 30th birthday today SOBER and I’ve never been more excited about life.
If you’ve been thinking about quitting, take this as a sign. Don’t let yourself waste away like I did.
EDIT: . I came here as an addict to admit I have a problem with weed. The problem is MINE and yet so many of you think you can tell me what I’ve been through. I don’t care if you love weed or if it helped you, it didn’t help me. It was ruining my life. I’m glad I got rid of it and I’m happy to share my story. Call me lazy, call me a liar, say I’m looking for attention, It doesn’t matter. I feel better today because I cut weed out of my life. I have no intention of going back. I’m not saying the drug is evil, but what I am saying is we should be HONEST with ourselves and recognize that like any other drug, weed affects everyone differently and people HAVE and WILL CONTINUE To get sick from it. To say otherwise is crazy. CHS is real, people have died. It’s interesting how many people are experts when it comes to marijuana. Listening to a joe Rogan podcast doesn’t make you an expert. If you’re happy being a stoner, be a fucking stoner. In these comments there are enough stories to prove it’s not the miracle drug so many of you are defending it to be. If you’re trying to quit, please DM me. I’ll cheer you on.
As a recovering addict to both pot and tobacco, along with being almost 30 (29), this resonates big time with me. Thanks to be to God for leading me away from those things. I have a friend who's still addicted to both, will likely forward him this story. Thanks for sharing bud.