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Title: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on January 08, 2021, 01:24:57 PM
For any of you Lurkers trying to decide if you wanna quit today! here is a great quote i found here at KTC

  "ITS A DECISION. You decided to quit? then quit Dammit. Choices have consequences and rewards. To quit means to face withdrawl, it requires the confrontation of triggers without using nicotine. It will not always be easy,but get over it. This is the price you pay to earn your freedom.Besides, what have you ever earned of value that was easy? ( Besides Bubba's undying love) . it won't always be hard either, so look forward to that. You learn to live life without a chemical addiction.The reward is bigger than High School Hope's ever expanding ass. Better relationships, your self respect, freedom, control, health, perhaps your very life. Maybe the next dip is the one that kills you?"

    There is alot of great tools here to help save your life, and some bad ass people that help you stay Quit. here At KTC we do Things ODAAT (one day at a time) thats it , that simple. come join us on roll in the april 2021 Group. dont plan for the future quit for today.
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on January 08, 2021, 06:31:53 PM
Today is 10 days tobacco and nicotine free. I’m not gonna lie quitting is fucking tough. You eat (sometimes sleep) and shit- agitation, headaches , sore mouth, rage, fog, dizziness. But I know I can handle it. Why you ask? Because I choose my WHY to quit. and I’m angry like a lion full of fucking rage that a stupid ass can in my pocket control my life. Sure I’ve did my solo stoppages like I’m sure all addicts have. But so far The KTC way is helping me beyond measure minus some of the bullshit drama going on in my group. ODAAT. I can see how brotherhood-accountability-respect keeps people free for the day. Humans are incredible creatures and we can do what ever the hell we want if we put our minds to it! So why not put your mind into quitting! Why not put your mind into saving your life! Why not put your mind into not letting your family down. Anyone can do it , stop making excuses, stop being a pussy. O I’m going to quit tomorrow! Bullshit we all know it take that weak ass shit home! Man up , get angry , realize it fucking sucks and it’s painful and agitating but pals in comparison to the alternative. 6ft under in a fucking pine box at 40-50-60 whatever why your family looks down at you wishing you would have listen to their pleas when you were alive. What’s your WHY? Mines I want my Freedom! My life! I wanna spread light to others and as I reach further in my quit I wanna swing back and bring someone up with me ! I reach one!-I teach one! This is how humans are wired we are social animals and need brotherhood/sisterhood to push past certain aspects of our lives. I Know KTC is doing it for me at just day 10 . believe It can help you to!
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: Batdad on January 09, 2021, 08:53:09 AM
Excellent stuff. Proud to be quit with you today.
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: FISHFLORIDA on January 09, 2021, 05:51:20 PM
Excellent stuff. Proud to be quit with you today.
Proud as an emmer effer to be quit with you.  There is NEVER a reason to cave.
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on January 09, 2021, 05:55:50 PM
Excellent stuff. Proud to be quit with you today.
Proud as an emmer effer to be quit with you.  There is NEVER a reason to cave.
Same to your brothers , I’d rather be upside down in a porter John in the middle of Texas summer than put that poisonous sludge cheek and gum! I ain’t nobody’s bitch but my own!
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on January 09, 2021, 07:37:42 PM
There Are No Strangers Here; Only Friends You Haven’t Yet Met
 IF at anytime you need someone to help during your quit, know that I am a pm away. I may not be far in my own quit but I damn sure will carry another brother/sista on my shoulder to success.  ( I may not be a smart man, but I know what quit is!) quietest Gump!
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on January 10, 2021, 09:17:08 AM
    2020 was a damn hard year for me. And damn happy I left that whore of a can behind. It’s weird how well KTC is helping my quit. In 2020 I pushed though with a sign I hung on my mirror that said “ let whatever you do today be enough” funny how that same sign now relates to my Quit.                   As I sit foggy brained trying to figure out if I’m taking a shit or cooking dinner or if they are one in the same. As my jaw feels like last time you ran your shine into that trailer hitch (seen all you just relate to that pain) . As I get pissed off and wanna through my foot so far up your ass that your teeth begin to hurt (just so you can feel the pain before your quit) .     I go back to that sign on my mirror . And that sign is the same as KTC moto ODAAT (let today be enough) let your quit be enough for today. Tomorrow may or may not come but today, today was enough . Stay quit it’s just that simple .
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: EXBEARHAG on January 10, 2021, 11:35:18 AM
    2020 was a damn hard year for me. And damn happy I left that whore of a can behind. It’s weird how well KTC is helping my quit. In 2020 I pushed though with a sign I hung on my mirror that said “ let whatever you do today be enough” funny how that same sign now relates to my Quit.                   As I sit foggy brained trying to figure out if I’m taking a shit or cooking dinner or if they are one in the same. As my jaw feels like last time you ran your shine into that trailer hitch (seen all you just relate to that pain) . As I get pissed off and wanna through my foot so far up your ass that your teeth begin to hurt (just so you can feel the pain before your quit) .     I go back to that sign on my mirror . And that sign is the same as KTC moto ODAAT (let today be enough) let your quit be enough for today. Tomorrow may or may not come but today, today was enough . Stay quit it’s just that simple .

Love it man.  I remember earlier in my quit when I'd get bogged down by thinking too far ahead.  How was I going to get through hockey season, a federal deployment, a day skiing or hiking.  Folks much smarter than myself in here told me to hold fast.  Tomorrow will work itself out when it comes.  YOU CAN QUIT TODAY!!  You are killing this Nick.  Love your attitude.  Love your message.  Love your attempt to engage and lead your group.  Keep it up and when things look bleak, use your tools and push through.  My number is always here if you need it.  Hold that line brother.
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: All1n on January 10, 2021, 01:26:54 PM
    2020 was a damn hard year for me. And damn happy I left that whore of a can behind. It’s weird how well KTC is helping my quit. In 2020 I pushed though with a sign I hung on my mirror that said “ let whatever you do today be enough” funny how that same sign now relates to my Quit.                   As I sit foggy brained trying to figure out if I’m taking a shit or cooking dinner or if they are one in the same. As my jaw feels like last time you ran your shine into that trailer hitch (seen all you just relate to that pain) . As I get pissed off and wanna through my foot so far up your ass that your teeth begin to hurt (just so you can feel the pain before your quit) .     I go back to that sign on my mirror . And that sign is the same as KTC moto ODAAT (let today be enough) let your quit be enough for today. Tomorrow may or may not come but today, today was enough . Stay quit it’s just that simple .

Damn sure proud to quit with you today boiiiiii!!! Crush it!!!
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on January 10, 2021, 02:00:55 PM
    2020 was a damn hard year for me. And damn happy I left that whore of a can behind. It’s weird how well KTC is helping my quit. In 2020 I pushed though with a sign I hung on my mirror that said “ let whatever you do today be enough” funny how that same sign now relates to my Quit.                   As I sit foggy brained trying to figure out if I’m taking a shit or cooking dinner or if they are one in the same. As my jaw feels like last time you ran your shine into that trailer hitch (seen all you just relate to that pain) . As I get pissed off and wanna through my foot so far up your ass that your teeth begin to hurt (just so you can feel the pain before your quit) .     I go back to that sign on my mirror . And that sign is the same as KTC moto ODAAT (let today be enough) let your quit be enough for today. Tomorrow may or may not come but today, today was enough . Stay quit it’s just that simple .

Love it man.  I remember earlier in my quit when I'd get bogged down by thinking too far ahead.  How was I going to get through hockey season, a federal deployment, a day skiing or hiking.  Folks much smarter than myself in here told me to hold fast.  Tomorrow will work itself out when it comes.  YOU CAN QUIT TODAY!!  You are killing this Nick.  Love your attitude.  Love your message.  Love your attempt to engage and lead your group.  Keep it up and when things look bleak, use your tools and push through.  My number is always here if you need it.  Hold that line brother.
thanks HAG ! Appreciate it brother , hard work- works, I understand we all struggle and life sucks sometimes but suck that shit up and tighten down them boot straps. All your vets have been a huge help during so a trying time lol addiction is no joke anybody that’s says it was easy is a damn bold face liar .
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on January 10, 2021, 02:02:37 PM
    2020 was a damn hard year for me. And damn happy I left that whore of a can behind. It’s weird how well KTC is helping my quit. In 2020 I pushed though with a sign I hung on my mirror that said “ let whatever you do today be enough” funny how that same sign now relates to my Quit.                   As I sit foggy brained trying to figure out if I’m taking a shit or cooking dinner or if they are one in the same. As my jaw feels like last time you ran your shine into that trailer hitch (seen all you just relate to that pain) . As I get pissed off and wanna through my foot so far up your ass that your teeth begin to hurt (just so you can feel the pain before your quit) .     I go back to that sign on my mirror . And that sign is the same as KTC moto ODAAT (let today be enough) let your quit be enough for today. Tomorrow may or may not come but today, today was enough . Stay quit it’s just that simple .

Damn sure proud to quit with you today boiiiiii!!! Crush it!!!
MY MAN!!! We FuK’en killen this 12! LTBE
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on January 12, 2021, 08:16:20 AM
      Well here I am 2 weeks, (silent round of applause) yesterday and today my quit is really hard with craves. this goes to show you how fucking bad tobacco is for your life! 2 weeks and my mind-body-soul still crave a object. a object that will put me to a early grave. i know some people will read this and think (early grave? damn he is dramatic) if this is you saying this Than you don't have what it takes to quit. For me this is life or death shit !!!! i got 2 options 1)stay quit and live a life of purpose or 2) i start planning my early death at the age of 30. There is no middle ground for me because people that create a middle ground are people that make up bullshit excuses. so does my quit suck? it does  sucks really fucking bad and im still agitated and foggy brained and push through one day at a time for myself and my brothers on this very site. im choosing the pain of today over the death of tomorrow . i hope someone reads this that wants to quit ,and understand nothing in life is easy but everything is attainable with work and effort. NO MIDDLE GROUND !! LIFE or DEATH your choice.
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: Keith0617 on January 12, 2021, 08:55:50 AM
      Well here I am 2 weeks, (silent round of applause) yesterday and today my quit is really hard with craves. this goes to show you how fucking bad tobacco is for your life! 2 weeks and my mind-body-soul still crave a object. a object that will put me to a early grave. i know some people will read this and think (early grave? damn he is dramatic) if this is you saying this Than you don't have what it takes to quit. For me this is life or death shit !!!! i got 2 options 1)stay quit and live a life of purpose or 2) i start planning my early death at the age of 30. There is no middle ground for me because people that create a middle ground are people that make up bullshit excuses. so does my quit suck? it does  sucks really fucking bad and im still agitated and foggy brained and push through one day at a time for myself and my brothers on this very site. im choosing the pain of today over the death of tomorrow . i hope someone reads this that wants to quit ,and understand nothing in life is easy but everything is attainable with work and effort. NO MIDDLE GROUND !! LIFE or DEATH your choice.
Keep plowing ahead one day at a time. The light gets so much brighter at the end of the tunnel. You are killing it. Reach out if I can help.
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: FullCurl on January 13, 2021, 11:21:50 PM
Stay strong brother, it sucks but like you said landing a disease courtesy of chew would be mighty tough to stomach. Lean on the crew and the big guy upstairs. Proud to be quit with you today!
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on January 14, 2021, 07:42:28 AM
Stay strong brother, it sucks but like you said landing a disease courtesy of chew would be mighty tough to stomach. Lean on the crew and the big guy upstairs. Proud to be quit with you today!
Amen brother, ODAAT helps keep me focus on a goal, all you guys here know how to get it done! i respect and honor that and i know soon enough ill be there as well. Let Your Quit Be Enough Today!
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on January 18, 2021, 02:40:09 PM
   Nearing my 3 weeks i feel a little bit better every day but still struggle like most with my cravings, I listen to a Tony Robbins motivational speech on my way to work ( i listen to motivation instead of destroying my damn jaw on my drive) this morning and one thing he said has been ringing in my head all day. " Wants or shoulds dont get met consistently, standards do" Meaning if we raise our standards of ourselves we will be more likely to achieve what we our after.
     People can want and should all day long, you can want to loose weight, you could tell yourself you should stop dipping but that thinking is flawed system and will fail, willpower will not get you through your quit as willpower can not be attained for long durations.
     Raising your standard now is the way to achieve greatness in quit, rewire your thinking. it should be ,i dont chew and never will. i have no doubt about it. i am better than nicotine and it has not even a ounce of space in my life. my standard says my health and wellness are so far past what a can of cancer can offer me i dont need to worry about it entering my lip again.
    I know i am a addict, i know the ever lingering Thought of a dip will creep in at some point. However when those hard days come ill already understand that my standard is so far beyond the death roll of nicotine that i need not worry for a promise to my self and my standard are the strongest bond and truth i can ever carry. LET YOUR QUIT BE ENOUGH TODAY!
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: stillbrewing on January 18, 2021, 06:43:50 PM
   Nearing my 3 weeks i feel a little bit better every day but still struggle like most with my cravings, I listen to a Tony Robbins motivational speech on my way to work ( i listen to motivation instead of destroying my damn jaw on my drive) this morning and one thing he said has been ringing in my head all day. " Wants or shoulds dont get met consistently, standards do" Meaning if we raise our standards of ourselves we will be more likely to achieve what we our after.
     People can want and should all day long, you can want to loose weight, you could tell yourself you should stop dipping but that thinking is flawed system and will fail, willpower will not get you through your quit as willpower can not be attained for long durations.
     Raising your standard now is the way to achieve greatness in quit, rewire your thinking. it should be ,i dont chew and never will. i have no doubt about it. i am better than nicotine and it has not even a ounce of space in my life. my standard says my health and wellness are so far past what a can of cancer can offer me i dont need to worry about it entering my lip again.
    I know i am a addict, i know the ever lingering Thought of a dip will creep in at some point. However when those hard days come ill already understand that my standard is so far beyond the death roll of nicotine that i need not worry for a promise to my self and my standard are the strongest bond and truth i can ever carry. LET YOUR QUIT BE ENOUGH TODAY!
'Bow'
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on January 20, 2021, 08:35:29 AM
     Good morning to all who may have wondered across this page. if your looking for a reason to Quit i hope this is your sign to do just that. I want you to understand that in life, if its not one thing, it another. Meaning their will always be something in your life that will happen. Good or bad no way around it (choosing dip for these somethings is a lame excuse).
     You are either in a problem, just left one, or headed towards one and dipping is just creating a extra problem on top of that.
Most of us never realize our potential because we have been side tracked by a secondary activity(dip). You loose yourself in your addiction and will never truly experience your freedom and true potential until you throw that shit aside. This site is here to help you reclaim your life, start anew , and hopefully live a healthy cancer free life. Brotherhood + Accountability= Success!
     Let This very moment be the time you toss that cancer leaf out of your mouth and throw that (secondary activity) into the trash. Let this very moment be the day you decide to join a group of badass quitters that will help you along the way. The choice is pretty Simple, promise me ,just for today, that you wont chew and i in return will return the favor. And we will do the same thing everyday for the rest of your dip free life.
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on January 27, 2021, 07:26:18 AM
     well a day short of a month and my journey so far has been crazy, wanted to get my log in this morning  because these last couple day my brain has been back in the foggy , i have been really dizzy again, and having dip dreams that piss me off every morning when i wake up because i was afraid i caved! Im only writing this so i can remember the turmoil i have gone through to even get this far. Its hard as fuck and it feels like the symptoms wont ever go away, but i can tell you i feel better than the first week. or even the second week. i feel more comfortable in my quit not only because im adjusting to these side effects so i am prepared to deal with them, but also because i have a strong group of brothers here at KTC that wont let me slip. Everyday i feel i am in the suck but every new day i feel a little better, a little lighter ( specially after i WUSP), i can see just a glimmer of light. which is better than straight black. HARD WORK, WORKS. For those reading i dont regret a second! this site will and is saving my life , a debt i can only repay by posting roll EDD and as i get to a new level i will pull, Possibly you reading this, up with me! LET YOUR QUIT BE ENOUGH TODAY!
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: Keith0617 on January 27, 2021, 09:25:40 AM
     well a day short of a month and my journey so far has been crazy, wanted to get my log in this morning  because these last couple day my brain has been back in the foggy , i have been really dizzy again, and having dip dreams that piss me off every morning when i wake up because i was afraid i caved! Im only writing this so i can remember the turmoil i have gone through to even get this far. Its hard as fuck and it feels like the symptoms wont ever go away, but i can tell you i feel better than the first week. or even the second week. i feel more comfortable in my quit not only because im adjusting to these side effects so i am prepared to deal with them, but also because i have a strong group of brothers here at KTC that wont let me slip. Everyday i feel i am in the suck but every new day i feel a little better, a little lighter ( specially after i WUSP), i can see just a glimmer of light. which is better than straight black. HARD WORK, WORKS. For those reading i dont regret a second! this site will and is saving my life , a debt i can only repay by posting roll EDD and as i get to a new level i will pull, Possibly you reading this, up with me! LET YOUR QUIT BE ENOUGH TODAY!
Keep plugging away one day at a time @nick-Otine Free (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=19005)  The light will keep getting brighter and brighter but all of us are 1 bad decision from posting a day one again. Stay loyal to your routine and don’t get complacent. You are killing. Proud to quit with you.
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on January 27, 2021, 11:14:18 AM
     well a day short of a month and my journey so far has been crazy, wanted to get my log in this morning  because these last couple day my brain has been back in the foggy , i have been really dizzy again, and having dip dreams that piss me off every morning when i wake up because i was afraid i caved! Im only writing this so i can remember the turmoil i have gone through to even get this far. Its hard as fuck and it feels like the symptoms wont ever go away, but i can tell you i feel better than the first week. or even the second week. i feel more comfortable in my quit not only because im adjusting to these side effects so i am prepared to deal with them, but also because i have a strong group of brothers here at KTC that wont let me slip. Everyday i feel i am in the suck but every new day i feel a little better, a little lighter ( specially after i WUSP), i can see just a glimmer of light. which is better than straight black. HARD WORK, WORKS. For those reading i dont regret a second! this site will and is saving my life , a debt i can only repay by posting roll EDD and as i get to a new level i will pull, Possibly you reading this, up with me! LET YOUR QUIT BE ENOUGH TODAY!
Keep plugging away one day at a time @nick-Otine Free (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=19005)  The light will keep getting brighter and brighter but all of us are 1 bad decision from posting a day one again. Stay loyal to your routine and don’t get complacent. You are killing. Proud to quit with you.
thanks brother i appreciate the Quit! DAmn proud to quit with ya as well
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on January 29, 2021, 08:56:29 AM
"Therefore we do not lose heart "-2 Corinthians 4:16–18-
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       Trust in God, Do not loose heart in your Quit. I know its tough i am struggling like the best of them. but i know god and my KTC brothers will help me pull through. I believe this program works and know ill be quit the rest of my life. Im having alot of ups and downs and days where the fog and nicotine tell me to just dip and end the pain. Its all a lie ya know, just a chemical brain imbalance telling you need something that will kill you is crazy talk. That is like saying walking out in front of a car will be good for you because you can collect disability. pretty fucking dumb right. Trust the path, trust the system. Dont lose heart it will be better Tommorow, this is gods promise. STAY QUIT EVERYONE, Happy Friday! ( @3-P (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=19059) hopefully this will help Brother)
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on February 03, 2021, 08:17:50 AM
    5 weeks in and im still surviving everyday, yesterday i had a quick fog and half day headache where my body felt like it was hungover! freaking crazy how the nic bitch can relate to a alcohol hangover! dont make no difference im out here fuckin it up, givin it the ole 1-2. Just got the Bagin' black cherry fake in from amazon and stuff is pretty good. LET YOUR QUIT BE ENOUGH TODAY!!! ERRRRRRRYYYYYYY DAYYYYYY imma kickin this shit in the brown starfish!
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: Ampete on February 03, 2021, 06:08:31 PM
    5 weeks in and im still surviving everyday, yesterday i had a quick fog and half day headache where my body felt like it was hungover! freaking crazy how the nic bitch can relate to a alcohol hangover! dont make no difference im out here fuckin it up, givin it the ole 1-2. Just got the Bagin' black cherry fake in from amazon and stuff is pretty good. LET YOUR QUIT BE ENOUGH TODAY!!! ERRRRRRRYYYYYYY DAYYYYYY imma kickin this shit in the brown starfish!

Keep it up big dog!!!  Nicotine don't have shit on us!!!
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on February 04, 2021, 07:23:49 AM
https://youtu.be/Nh0TtC7YOic - burn the boats , Become obsessed !
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on February 05, 2021, 07:23:02 AM
https://youtu.be/iSL4EsPjFE4  great watch! couple of points i took out of it 1) The smallest of steps completes the grandest of journey's 2) we have to learn to work our weaknesses 3) If you search , you will find. this is the way to discover ideas and life changing information (KTC). In order to Find you Must Search! 4) Go to 13:34 to listen to the whole part its a great info to apply to your quote.
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: Sajax on February 05, 2021, 02:22:19 PM
https://youtu.be/iSL4EsPjFE4  great watch! couple of points i took out of it 1) The smallest of steps completes the grandest of journey's 2) we have to learn to work our weaknesses 3) If you search , you will find. this is the way to discover ideas and life changing information (KTC). In order to Find you Must Search! 4) Go to 13:34 to listen to the whole part its a great info to apply to your quote.

I'll put this on my to watch list. Thanks for the tip Nick! The takeaways you listed are some good info. TD Jakes always made me ready to go fight a pack of lions bare handed so I'm looking forward to this.
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on February 05, 2021, 02:38:54 PM
https://youtu.be/iSL4EsPjFE4  great watch! couple of points i took out of it 1) The smallest of steps completes the grandest of journey's 2) we have to learn to work our weaknesses 3) If you search , you will find. this is the way to discover ideas and life changing information (KTC). In order to Find you Must Search! 4) Go to 13:34 to listen to the whole part it has  great info you can apply to your quit.

I'll put this on my to watch list. Thanks for the tip Nick! The takeaways you listed are some good info. TD Jakes always made me ready to go fight a pack of lions bare handed so I'm looking forward to this.
me to man people like TD, david goggins, Jocko willink, les brown, Coach pain, Tony Robbins, Eric Thomas Are some Badass mofos . i listen to their stuff every morning on my way to work. and apply  all their words to my Quit! makes me ready for the day to get after it and fight this addiction head on. Its one of one of the most important tools i use every morning to stay Quit! hope it helps you in yours and others as well my friend!
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: Sajax on February 05, 2021, 02:57:30 PM
https://youtu.be/iSL4EsPjFE4  great watch! couple of points i took out of it 1) The smallest of steps completes the grandest of journey's 2) we have to learn to work our weaknesses 3) If you search , you will find. this is the way to discover ideas and life changing information (KTC). In order to Find you Must Search! 4) Go to 13:34 to listen to the whole part it has  great info you can apply to your quit.

I'll put this on my to watch list. Thanks for the tip Nick! The takeaways you listed are some good info. TD Jakes always made me ready to go fight a pack of lions bare handed so I'm looking forward to this.
me to man people like TD, david goggins, Jocko willink, les brown, Coach pain, Tony Robbins, Eric Thomas Are some Badass mofos . i listen to their stuff every morning on my way to work. and apply  all their words to my Quit! makes me ready for the day to get after it and fight this addiction head on. Its one of one of the most important tools i use every morning to stay Quit! hope it helps you in yours and others as well my friend!

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...Eric Thomas Are...
My dumb ass read that as "Eric Andre" the first time and I thought, well, whatever floats your boat. LMAO. Jocko owns his gym right down the road from where I live. That guy...I met a few like him in Uncle Sam's Yacht Club (Navy) and lemme tell you. I am sooo glad they are on the side of the good guys. If Jocko and crew told me they were coming for me I would just turn myself in. That guy scares me.
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on February 05, 2021, 03:02:14 PM
https://youtu.be/iSL4EsPjFE4  great watch! couple of points i took out of it 1) The smallest of steps completes the grandest of journey's 2) we have to learn to work our weaknesses 3) If you search , you will find. this is the way to discover ideas and life changing information (KTC). In order to Find you Must Search! 4) Go to 13:34 to listen to the whole part it has  great info you can apply to your quit.

I'll put this on my to watch list. Thanks for the tip Nick! The takeaways you listed are some good info. TD Jakes always made me ready to go fight a pack of lions bare handed so I'm looking forward to this.
me to man people like TD, david goggins, Jocko willink, les brown, Coach pain, Tony Robbins, Eric Thomas Are some Badass mofos . i listen to their stuff every morning on my way to work. and apply  all their words to my Quit! makes me ready for the day to get after it and fight this addiction head on. Its one of one of the most important tools i use every morning to stay Quit! hope it helps you in yours and others as well my friend!

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...Eric Thomas Are...
My dumb ass read that as "Eric Andre" the first time and I thought, well, whatever floats your boat. LMAO. Jocko owns his gym right down the road from where I live. That guy...I met a few like him in Uncle Sam's Yacht Club (Navy) and lemme tell you. I am sooo glad they are on the side of the good guys. If Jocko and crew told me they were coming for me I would just turn myself in. That guy scares me.
yea lolololo hahahaha he is no joke he is a fucking machine!
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on February 06, 2021, 06:15:10 PM
Had a really hard morning . Woke up craving something aweful! All my mind wanted was a dip! I rolled over and posted my promise right away to help protect my quit. It just stuck there like one of those day dreams that ya can’t get out off. My head dizzy and a longing for a old familiar felt like all 4 walls were closing in on my little by little. In my pain and dismay I sent out some good morning promises to my brothers than went to my home gym and lifted for 2 hours! Which is rare I usually try to do 45 min max, but today I new my quit was wavering and the grind of heavy weights and sweat helped divert my every craving mind . Got done and read my messages feeling a little better I was humbled by my brothers telling me to make sure I reach out of it gets any worse and that I had it! BINGO that’s what KTC is about , any other stoppage I may have caved. Not now , not ever! I made a promise for today, and backed it up with texting messages to my brothers ! And I put in the work when I was triggered ! Feeling better now ! LET Today Be Enough!
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: Thefranks5 on February 06, 2021, 06:43:50 PM
Had a really hard morning . Woke up craving something aweful! All my mind wanted was a dip! I rolled over and posted my promise right away to help protect my quit. It just stuck there like one of those day dreams that ya can’t get out off. My head dizzy and a longing for a old familiar felt like all 4 walls were closing in on my little by little. In my pain and dismay I sent out some good morning promises to my brothers than went to my home gym and lifted for 2 hours! Which is rare I usually try to do 45 min max, but today I new my quit was wavering and the grind of heavy weights and sweat helped divert my every craving mind . Got done and read my messages feeling a little better I was humbled by my brothers telling me to make sure I reach out of it gets any worse and that I had it! BINGO that’s what KTC is about , any other stoppage I may have caved. Not now , not ever! I made a promise for today, and backed it up with texting messages to my brothers ! And I put in the work when I was triggered ! Feeling better now ! LET Today Be Enough!
Keep putting it out there bud. Its amazing what we go thru to get clean and the best tool to have is phone numbers. It saved my butt more then once and now I am always telling people about it. Proud to be quit with ya bud and as always enjoy following what you write.
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on February 06, 2021, 06:53:58 PM
Had a really hard morning . Woke up craving something aweful! All my mind wanted was a dip! I rolled over and posted my promise right away to help protect my quit. It just stuck there like one of those day dreams that ya can’t get out off. My head dizzy and a longing for a old familiar felt like all 4 walls were closing in on my little by little. In my pain and dismay I sent out some good morning promises to my brothers than went to my home gym and lifted for 2 hours! Which is rare I usually try to do 45 min max, but today I new my quit was wavering and the grind of heavy weights and sweat helped divert my every craving mind . Got done and read my messages feeling a little better I was humbled by my brothers telling me to make sure I reach out of it gets any worse and that I had it! BINGO that’s what KTC is about , any other stoppage I may have caved. Not now , not ever! I made a promise for today, and backed it up with texting messages to my brothers ! And I put in the work when I was triggered ! Feeling better now ! LET Today Be Enough!
Keep putting it out there bud. Its amazing what we go thru to get clean and the best tool to have is phone numbers. It saved my butt more then once and now I am always telling people about it. Proud to be quit with ya bud and as always enjoy following what you write.
thanks man! It helps me and I hope it helps others . This shit ain’t all rainbow and butterflies, it ain’t no boy bad shit. It’s hard , being a addict is not easy and the enemy is always trying to get at us. Understand tools and as my boy @All1n (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=19029) laying it all out on the field ! Is the only way . I try to strengthen my quit everyday! Today was a tough grind your teeth down kinda day but we after it!
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: Freddi on February 06, 2021, 07:03:24 PM
Had a really hard morning . Woke up craving something aweful! All my mind wanted was a dip! I rolled over and posted my promise right away to help protect my quit. It just stuck there like one of those day dreams that ya can’t get out off. My head dizzy and a longing for a old familiar felt like all 4 walls were closing in on my little by little. In my pain and dismay I sent out some good morning promises to my brothers than went to my home gym and lifted for 2 hours! Which is rare I usually try to do 45 min max, but today I new my quit was wavering and the grind of heavy weights and sweat helped divert my every craving mind . Got done and read my messages feeling a little better I was humbled by my brothers telling me to make sure I reach out of it gets any worse and that I had it! BINGO that’s what KTC is about , any other stoppage I may have caved. Not now , not ever! I made a promise for today, and backed it up with texting messages to my brothers ! And I put in the work when I was triggered ! Feeling better now ! LET Today Be Enough!

Fucking awesome.  Nice way to kick that bitch right in the mouth.  I really appreciate that your word to the rest of us is more important than the lies that bitch was whispering to you.  You make my quit so much stronger, just standing up to her!
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: EXBEARHAG on February 06, 2021, 08:30:15 PM
Had a really hard morning . Woke up craving something aweful! All my mind wanted was a dip! I rolled over and posted my promise right away to help protect my quit. It just stuck there like one of those day dreams that ya can’t get out off. My head dizzy and a longing for a old familiar felt like all 4 walls were closing in on my little by little. In my pain and dismay I sent out some good morning promises to my brothers than went to my home gym and lifted for 2 hours! Which is rare I usually try to do 45 min max, but today I new my quit was wavering and the grind of heavy weights and sweat helped divert my every craving mind . Got done and read my messages feeling a little better I was humbled by my brothers telling me to make sure I reach out of it gets any worse and that I had it! BINGO that’s what KTC is about , any other stoppage I may have caved. Not now , not ever! I made a promise for today, and backed it up with texting messages to my brothers ! And I put in the work when I was triggered ! Feeling better now ! LET Today Be Enough!

Fucking awesome.  Nice way to kick that bitch right in the mouth.  I really appreciate that your word to the rest of us is more important than the lies that bitch was whispering to you.  You make my quit so much stronger, just standing up to her!

That a boy Nick.  F* that DB!!  You don't need that shit.  A distinct honor and pleasure to be quit with you today sir.
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: stillbrewing on February 07, 2021, 09:48:43 AM
Had a really hard morning . Woke up craving something aweful! All my mind wanted was a dip! I rolled over and posted my promise right away to help protect my quit. It just stuck there like one of those day dreams that ya can’t get out off. My head dizzy and a longing for a old familiar felt like all 4 walls were closing in on my little by little. In my pain and dismay I sent out some good morning promises to my brothers than went to my home gym and lifted for 2 hours! Which is rare I usually try to do 45 min max, but today I new my quit was wavering and the grind of heavy weights and sweat helped divert my every craving mind . Got done and read my messages feeling a little better I was humbled by my brothers telling me to make sure I reach out of it gets any worse and that I had it! BINGO that’s what KTC is about , any other stoppage I may have caved. Not now , not ever! I made a promise for today, and backed it up with texting messages to my brothers ! And I put in the work when I was triggered ! Feeling better now ! LET Today Be Enough!

Fucking awesome.  Nice way to kick that bitch right in the mouth.  I really appreciate that your word to the rest of us is more important than the lies that bitch was whispering to you.  You make my quit so much stronger, just standing up to her!

That a boy Nick.  F* that DB!!  You don't need that shit.  A distinct honor and pleasure to be quit with you today sir.
Keep racking up those WINS! 
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: All1n on February 07, 2021, 10:41:40 AM
Had a really hard morning . Woke up craving something aweful! All my mind wanted was a dip! I rolled over and posted my promise right away to help protect my quit. It just stuck there like one of those day dreams that ya can’t get out off. My head dizzy and a longing for a old familiar felt like all 4 walls were closing in on my little by little. In my pain and dismay I sent out some good morning promises to my brothers than went to my home gym and lifted for 2 hours! Which is rare I usually try to do 45 min max, but today I new my quit was wavering and the grind of heavy weights and sweat helped divert my every craving mind . Got done and read my messages feeling a little better I was humbled by my brothers telling me to make sure I reach out of it gets any worse and that I had it! BINGO that’s what KTC is about , any other stoppage I may have caved. Not now , not ever! I made a promise for today, and backed it up with texting messages to my brothers ! And I put in the work when I was triggered ! Feeling better now ! LET Today Be Enough!
Keep putting it out there bud. Its amazing what we go thru to get clean and the best tool to have is phone numbers. It saved my butt more then once and now I am always telling people about it. Proud to be quit with ya bud and as always enjoy following what you write.
thanks man! It helps me and I hope it helps others . This shit ain’t all rainbow and butterflies, it ain’t no boy bad shit. It’s hard , being a addict is not easy and the enemy is always trying to get at us. Understand tools and as my boy @All1n (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=19029) laying it all out on the field ! Is the only way . I try to strengthen my quit everyday! Today was a tough grind your teeth down kinda day but we after it!

Co A is flipping this whole thing on its head. Those urges, not only for the nicbitch, are just a demon trying to seek prey. Smash the edge of your shield right into its grill and move on to the next one.
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on February 17, 2021, 09:48:23 AM
     Happy Ash Wednesday everyone! today i am inspired by Romans 12:9-21 if you get a chance google it and apply to your life. soooo Today is day 50 and half way to my HOF. Man has it been a struggle but here a KTC there is such strong frame work it pulls you through some of the dark days. for the First time since i quit im feeling a little better. days 40-50 were days of relief even though i still had my craving and headache sometime the drowsiness, fog , and fatigue were finally gone (i hope for good). drinking the kool-aid was not easy at first i had my whims on how a bunch of strangers on the internet could help me, my pride almost took over. I was skeptical of sharing my number but with a Push from FH and Chris2Alaska i was finally all in and i have not turned back since. What a damn good idea and benefit that has been in saving me in my quit. if i didnt have a brother who (knows the hardship of quiting nicotine) not your loved ones or friends that dont take you serious or think your being dramatic i would probably have caved by now. Having someone to reach out to and having someone who is going to tear you limp to limp for missing role or being late keeps you on track! ive always been a man who honors his word and the guilt i would feel for letting my brothers down would be almost unbearable for me. I know there is a long road ahead, time has slowed as i told a brother today it feels like a lifetime since i last dipped but reality is only 50 days which is crazy. Im proud to call all these mean caring Mofos on this site my brothers and sisters. 50 days of giving myself a shot at freedom. Freedom from hopefully cancer, from worrying about my next dip, from a can. you can make your quit as easy as hard as you want. If you a guest , dont be shy were assholes here for a reason and everyone person here wants to save your life , remember that on your butthurt days! why carry on the rest of your day a nicotine slave? Thanks for all the Love everyone im feelin it and hope one day i can only return the Favor! LTBE 24 hours at a time
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on February 18, 2021, 12:03:42 PM
HOLY BALLS 22 GuestSSS ,, GET IN HERE!!!!! May 21 is lonely and needs more quiters only a couple more days for that strong group. WATER IS WARM dive on in and Save YouR lives you wont regret it!
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on February 22, 2021, 12:43:15 PM
“You’re off to great Quittin, today is your day. Your Group is waiting, so get on
your way.”

-DR. Seussinquit-
[/b]   https://ktcforum.org/index.php?topic=16943.0 <-----------your June 21 group is here
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on February 24, 2021, 08:41:43 AM
     Today I woke up again with a headache and a little bit nauseous, 3 days of dealing with this frustration and annoyance. However when I got on roll this morning I seen my fellow Thunder brother @Jeepmoxie (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=19021)  was struggling as well. I can say this, I joined KTC for reasons like these. seeing someone else ,only a day behind in his quit, going through something similar almost immediately toughened my resolve. " Damn Nick he is going through the same shit as well and he is still going don't be a pussy" " Fuck this if he can stay quit I damn sure know I can". Its the Magic of Brotherhood + Accountability that keeps Me quit, If I was going it alone I would be just another guest standing out in the cold looking in.
     As many know, one of the ways i stay quit or distract my craving mind is by listing to motivational stuff on my way to work instead of slinging Hoarse shit in my lip. This is some of the messages I heard today and am applying to my Quit: Self discipline is the ability to want to do something , but do it any way. I may not want to to WUPP, But i do it any way. I may not want to Let people know ill be late to roll, but i do it anyway. I may not have felt comfortable giving out my phone number, but i did it any way. Change your mentality and on the other side there is greatness. YOU can face down everyone including that weak voice inside your own mind.
     If you truly want to achieve something, you got to find ways to put yourself at risk of something great happening. I wanted my freedom so I risked putting myself out there on this site to walk into my great new nicotine free life. I accepted my own responsibility, i see myself as primarily responsible for my outcomes and my experience. I can drink as much of the kool-aid as i want , i must first hold myself to the higher standard of my quit and KTC comes Second to helping me stay quit. Cause and effect exist, if you want to get better at something you need to put in the work. If you want to save your own life you must be willing to face the flames. Lock and load yourself with every tool to get you out of the trenches of nicotine and possible death.
     I dare you to take a stand today, to say " NO MORE". I will no longer Accept this (dip) for my life. I dare you to take action today. I dare you to quit and have KTC keep you Accountable.

Nick-Otine Free- 57 LTBE
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: JeffH4257 on February 24, 2021, 11:08:40 AM
Nick,

You are right in the throes of your addiction.  Same happened to me around day 53...then again in the 70's.  You have an amazingly positive attitude towards "the shit", and it hasn't gone unrecognized.  When I work with student teachers and new teachers, they almost always have an enthusiastic and positive attitude.  Never lose that enthusiasm Nick.  Never.  It's what will help keep you quit. 

Proud to quit with you today!

-Jeff
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on February 24, 2021, 12:12:33 PM
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Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on February 24, 2021, 12:13:51 PM
Nick,

You are right in the throes of your addiction.  Same happened to me around day 53...then again in the 70's.  You have an amazingly positive attitude towards "the shit", and it hasn't gone unrecognized.  When I work with student teachers and new teachers, they almost always have an enthusiastic and positive attitude.  Never lose that enthusiasm Nick.  Never.  It's what will help keep you quit. 

Proud to quit with you today!

-Jeff
Thanks Jeff its a honor to be Quitting with you today! I've always did my best to be positive, well because i figured out you get no where being negative and it does not help any situation get better. The More light in the world during darker hours hopefully pulls someone out of said dark hole in chances of seeing a better life.
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Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on February 26, 2021, 07:56:03 PM
ekoostik hookah Interstellar livestream They are love tonight for maybe another hour great band if you haven’t heard of them tune in!
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on March 02, 2021, 08:02:14 AM
https://youtu.be/ysTGb27yCcc  ---
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: chewie on March 02, 2021, 08:20:31 AM
https://youtu.be/ysTGb27yCcc  ---

Rogan. Is. Amazing.

Love that dude. Thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on March 02, 2021, 08:40:18 AM
https://youtu.be/ysTGb27yCcc  ---(this was my motivation video for today and a lot of what i say is referencing it and turning it into my own thoughts and quit)
     
Alot of people dabble in improving themselves, if your a guest, don't dabble, quit right Fucking now and GET ON ROLL. if you make up a excuse your dabbling with life and death. Difficulty, Struggle, and the ability to push through those are a muscle. And you develop that muscle by DOING IT! Its damn hard to quit, but i get my ass on roll by WUPPing EDD! I am rewiring and programming my mind. Posting roll is my normal, its natural, its easy and i NEED IT! live your life like your the hero of your own story. your the bad mother fucker that tossed that can of poison and QUIT! people have been waiting on you to save yourself, and now that you have , Find your Damn QUIT group and keep knocking them demons down! 90% it just SHOWING UP! just get on roll its simple, easy, tried, and true. There will be days you gotta push through your SUCK! some days are more often than not, its called being self aware. we all know quitting is fucking hard, but here we all are making the choice to take our cave off the table Every Damn Day!
     your a Pro! its your JOB to QUIT. there are no sick days, it don't matter if your kids are sick, wife left, found yourself homeless, lost a leg, dad just died, favorite dog just passed ( IT DONT MATTER! YOUR JOB IS TO QUIT LIKE A PRO)! Addiction is a battle you will fight the rest of your life, but the key is to FIGHT IT, don't give in to those whispers and craves. Every day you do that you have won the battle for that day. (8:09 min in) Joe says "maybe you don't want to smoke cigarettes' but you fucking have to, you cant deal with the stress so you smoke, you DEVALUE YOURSELF"! listen guys we are not our past, we use to dip but that is not us today or our future. We are nicotine free addict's that toe the most badass line every day. Some people know that, some people don't, who the hell cares because your a fucking champion and no one can take that from you. KTC is your safety net, PUSH FORWARD! Take one step at a time, one foot in front of the other. Soon you will find yourself gaining traction and its an amazing Feeling! But know at times your ass will trip over that hurdle that you have cleared so many times before. Are you gonna lay down (Dip)? or are your going to Dust yourself off and March those ordered steps you have been doing all along! There is no magic pill! The only road blocks are the ones your create for your own self. You may not think i have been quit very long to know or give advice. But know this, in my mind ive been quit my entire LIFE! I know i will never dip again and felt that feeling December 30th 2020. God told my body enough was enough and my mind flipped that day. All my being, every bone knew i was done! and so i am and so i will alway be! MIND SET FOLKS! Rewire your thinking! LTBE

Nick-Otine Free- 63
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on March 03, 2021, 07:58:39 AM
https://youtu.be/BZn7rS4Vkt4  BUST THAT DOOR!

     Good Morning my fellow T-Birds! I'm Feeling Freaking Stoked to be quitting with you all on this Wednesday. My Favorite part of this clip i will quote:
     "Its so easy to say I can do it tomorrow! Well, I want you to reprogram your brain. Start telling yourself that tomorrow is not a VIABLE OPTION!"
-TOMORROW DOESNT WORK!-
-YOU DO IT TODAY!-
-YOU GET IT DONE TODAY!-
-THATS WHAT YOU DO!-

LTBE brothers were all gonna be ok ! lets fight this funk and work our way towards that train station this month!
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on March 04, 2021, 02:17:52 PM
1: Decide- Decide that the pain and struggle of quitting is enough, and through that struggle you get the greatest gift of all. A nicotine Free life.

2: Plan- Plan what you are going to do on your hard days. Those days where the itch is so strong and your mind is telling you that the quit is just not worth it. A plan for when your crave is more important than your reason. A plan for days or weekends when your standing on the edge and thinking to yourself your addiction is cured (NOT! your a Pickle!). Lucky There is a Forum of dick heads some where to help with this plan, maybe someone can point you in the right direction.

3: Begin- Begin each and every day WUPPing, begin by taking such a hard addiction off the table for the day. Starting is pretty simple, getting on roll is pretty simple. Begin trusting others that are holding a shield next to you fighting the same fight. Begin believing that you can be Nicotine free for life. And as you begin each day the same way , the same thought process, the same wave length, you will be taking another step toward your own freedom.LTBE
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on March 04, 2021, 02:54:42 PM
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Post by: 69franx on March 04, 2021, 03:27:10 PM
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Post by: chris2alaska on March 04, 2021, 03:28:16 PM
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Post by: 69franx on March 04, 2021, 04:14:34 PM
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Post by: Keith0617 on March 04, 2021, 04:21:36 PM
E or e?
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Post by: 69franx on March 04, 2021, 06:12:40 PM
definitely e it would seem
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on March 04, 2021, 07:38:31 PM
What the F
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: 69franx on March 04, 2021, 11:36:16 PM
That's the best one yet! And most appropriate!
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on March 05, 2021, 07:33:49 AM
That's the best one yet! And most appropriate!
i thought so i laughed longer than i should have
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on March 05, 2021, 08:02:49 AM
InvictusQuit
BY WILLIAM ERNEST Quitly

Out of the night that covers me,
      Black as the pit from trigger to crave,
I thank whatever gods may be
      For my unconquerable Quit.

In the fell clutch of circumstance
      I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of nicotine
      My head is bloody, but unbowed.

Beyond this place of wrath and tears
      Looms but the Horror of the cave,
And yet the menace of the years
      Finds and shall find me unafraid.

It matters not how strait the gate,
      How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my quit,
      I am the captain of my soul.

GET IN HERE YOU LURKIN SUM BITCHSSSSSSS!!!!!! it will be the best accomplishment you will ever over come in your life par none! its hard , its gritty, its bloody! its everything you want in a success story! so be your success story by Getting on June 21 roll! JUNE 21 CLICK HERE (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?topic=16943.0)
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on March 06, 2021, 06:46:56 AM
I’m a proud Uncle again! My sister had her baby yesterday both healthy! The only reason I’m adding this is because this is her 3rd and my first time nicotine free! This little one will never seen me on nicotine. I’m sure one day I’ll tell her I’m a addict and that I at one point in my life was knowingly killing myself. Her two older kids 5 and 4 would always ask me what o was doing when the cought me putting a dip in( kids are so intuitive and nosey) or they would see the circle in my pocket and try to pull it out because they were curious asking if they could have some or the notorious (why). With embarrassment I just told them it’s only for adults and it’s not good for them as my sister eyes me with disgust! I’d send a nod of apology and guilt to her and go out the can in my car. Not-Again-For-Any-Reason will I have to do this! 67 LTBE
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: Aggies94 on March 06, 2021, 09:23:09 AM
I’m a proud Uncle again! My sister had her baby yesterday both healthy! The only reason I’m adding this is because this is her 3rd and my first time nicotine free! This little one will never seen me on nicotine. I’m sure one day I’ll tell her I’m a addict and that I at one point in my life was knowingly killing myself. Her two older kids 5 and 4 would always ask me what o was doing when the cought me putting a dip in( kids are so intuitive and nosey) or they would see the circle in my pocket and try to pull it out because they were curious asking if they could have some or the notorious (why). With embarrassment I just told them it’s only for adults and it’s not good for them as my sister eyes me with disgust! I’d send a nod of apology and guilt to her and go out the can in my car. Not-Again-For-Any-Reason will I have to do this! 67 LTBE
Congrats nick!
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on March 06, 2021, 09:24:38 AM
I’m a proud Uncle again! My sister had her baby yesterday both healthy! The only reason I’m adding this is because this is her 3rd and my first time nicotine free! This little one will never seen me on nicotine. I’m sure one day I’ll tell her I’m a addict and that I at one point in my life was knowingly killing myself. Her two older kids 5 and 4 would always ask me what o was doing when the cought me putting a dip in( kids are so intuitive and nosey) or they would see the circle in my pocket and try to pull it out because they were curious asking if they could have some or the notorious (why). With embarrassment I just told them it’s only for adults and it’s not good for them as my sister eyes me with disgust! I’d send a nod of apology and guilt to her and go out the can in my car. Not-Again-For-Any-Reason will I have to do this! 67 LTBE
Congrats nick!
thanks man! Just another thing that motivates me to stay quit! God is good!
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on March 09, 2021, 09:24:56 AM
~Day 70~

     The journey to seventy has been a interesting one. It feels like time has slowed since i was at day 30. don't get me wrong its still been really hard, but i feel each set of 10 comes with there own challenges. the downside of 60s were the headache and nausea i felt every morning, like a wave beating against a stone reminding me of that stupid mistake i made 14 years ago. but on the upswing i didnt have any fog, i think only 1 dip dream, im sleeping better and better as i stack days, my craves have always been strong but i have been mentally adjusting so that i only use about 1-2 fake dips a day now and just deal with the crave like a beckoning old friend across the fence, but you know your not allowed to go out and play. for those newbies and guest reading i hope this helps you on your journey. has it been easy, No, but every day i wake up and post roll like clock work and stack another day of quittin on the pile. I advance my quit by reading the archives here at KTC, playing wildcard, and do my best to motivate, push, and lead our april 21 thunderbird group.  I would not have it any other way. sitting at 70 is like climbing that 3 mile uphill mountain, your legs are quivering, lungs about to bust with exhaustion, your brain telling you this is stupid and to turn around and go home, but just when your about to break you hit that peak. You look down at the valley and waves of trees below, and than you look up to a sunset with streaks of pink and purple splattered across the sky. you smile, just for a second knowing that effort was worth every ache and pain, and than you head down and onward because you got more trail ahead. More dirt to pound, more challenges and accomplishment on the horizon before you can rest. ( 70 is just one of the many peaks ive hit, God bless everyone here at KTC and lets keep arrow straight and true ) LTBE - EDD - QLAMF - NAFAR- WE AFTER IT!
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: JeffH4257 on March 09, 2021, 11:14:22 AM
~Day 70~

     The journey to seventy has been a interesting one. It feels like time has slowed since i was at day 30. don't get me wrong its still been really hard, but i feel each set of 10 comes with there own challenges. the downside of 60s were the headache and nausea i felt every morning, like a wave beating against a stone reminding me of that stupid mistake i made 14 years ago. but on the upswing i didnt have any fog, i think only 1 dip dream, im sleeping better and better as i stack days, my craves have always been strong but i have been mentally adjusting so that i only use about 1-2 fake dips a day now and just deal with the crave like a beckoning old friend across the fence, but you know your not allowed to go out and play. for those newbies and guest reading i hope this helps you on your journey. has it been easy, No, but every day i wake up and post roll like clock work and stack another day of quittin on the pile. I advance my quit by reading the archives here at KTC, playing wildcard, and do my best to motivate, push, and lead our april 21 thunderbird group.  I would not have it any other way. sitting at 70 is like climbing that 3 mile uphill mountain, your legs are quivering, lungs about to bust with exhaustion, your brain telling you this is stupid and to turn around and go home, but just when your about to break you hit that peak. You look down at the valley and waves of trees below, and than you look up to a sunset with streaks of pink and purple splattered across the sky. you smile, just for a second knowing that effort was worth every ache and pain, and than you head down and onward because you got more trail ahead. More dirt to pound, more challenges and accomplishment on the horizon before you can rest. ( 70 is just one of the many peaks ive hit, God bless everyone here at KTC and lets keep arrow straight and true ) LTBE - EDD - QLAMF - NAFAR- WE AFTER IT!

You are absolutely crushing it my friend!  Stick to your routine!

PTBQWYT

-Jeff
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: oldschool on March 09, 2021, 12:32:08 PM
~Day 70~

     The journey to seventy has been a interesting one. It feels like time has slowed since i was at day 30. don't get me wrong its still been really hard, but i feel each set of 10 comes with there own challenges. the downside of 60s were the headache and nausea i felt every morning, like a wave beating against a stone reminding me of that stupid mistake i made 14 years ago. but on the upswing i didnt have any fog, i think only 1 dip dream, im sleeping better and better as i stack days, my craves have always been strong but i have been mentally adjusting so that i only use about 1-2 fake dips a day now and just deal with the crave like a beckoning old friend across the fence, but you know your not allowed to go out and play. for those newbies and guest reading i hope this helps you on your journey. has it been easy, No, but every day i wake up and post roll like clock work and stack another day of quittin on the pile. I advance my quit by reading the archives here at KTC, playing wildcard, and do my best to motivate, push, and lead our april 21 thunderbird group.  I would not have it any other way. sitting at 70 is like climbing that 3 mile uphill mountain, your legs are quivering, lungs about to bust with exhaustion, your brain telling you this is stupid and to turn around and go home, but just when your about to break you hit that peak. You look down at the valley and waves of trees below, and than you look up to a sunset with streaks of pink and purple splattered across the sky. you smile, just for a second knowing that effort was worth every ache and pain, and than you head down and onward because you got more trail ahead. More dirt to pound, more challenges and accomplishment on the horizon before you can rest. ( 70 is just one of the many peaks ive hit, God bless everyone here at KTC and lets keep arrow straight and true ) LTBE - EDD - QLAMF - NAFAR- WE AFTER IT!

You are absolutely crushing it my friend!  Stick to your routine!

PTBQWYT

-Jeff
Great job quitting one day at a time!  Keep blogging it out and sharing your quit experience.  It is a great way to pay it forward and help others.
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: ChickDip on March 10, 2021, 01:48:43 PM
~Day 70~

     The journey to seventy has been a interesting one. It feels like time has slowed since i was at day 30. don't get me wrong its still been really hard, but i feel each set of 10 comes with there own challenges. the downside of 60s were the headache and nausea i felt every morning, like a wave beating against a stone reminding me of that stupid mistake i made 14 years ago. but on the upswing i didnt have any fog, i think only 1 dip dream, im sleeping better and better as i stack days, my craves have always been strong but i have been mentally adjusting so that i only use about 1-2 fake dips a day now and just deal with the crave like a beckoning old friend across the fence, but you know your not allowed to go out and play. for those newbies and guest reading i hope this helps you on your journey. has it been easy, No, but every day i wake up and post roll like clock work and stack another day of quittin on the pile. I advance my quit by reading the archives here at KTC, playing wildcard, and do my best to motivate, push, and lead our april 21 thunderbird group.  I would not have it any other way. sitting at 70 is like climbing that 3 mile uphill mountain, your legs are quivering, lungs about to bust with exhaustion, your brain telling you this is stupid and to turn around and go home, but just when your about to break you hit that peak. You look down at the valley and waves of trees below, and than you look up to a sunset with streaks of pink and purple splattered across the sky. you smile, just for a second knowing that effort was worth every ache and pain, and than you head down and onward because you got more trail ahead. More dirt to pound, more challenges and accomplishment on the horizon before you can rest. ( 70 is just one of the many peaks ive hit, God bless everyone here at KTC and lets keep arrow straight and true ) LTBE - EDD - QLAMF - NAFAR- WE AFTER IT!

You are absolutely crushing it my friend!  Stick to your routine!

PTBQWYT

-Jeff
Great job quitting one day at a time!  Keep blogging it out and sharing your quit experience.  It is a great way to pay it forward and help others.
You're in the thick of it for sure. Stay the course. Badass.
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: macattack on March 10, 2021, 01:57:43 PM
~Day 70~

     The journey to seventy has been a interesting one. It feels like time has slowed since i was at day 30. don't get me wrong its still been really hard, but i feel each set of 10 comes with there own challenges. the downside of 60s were the headache and nausea i felt every morning, like a wave beating against a stone reminding me of that stupid mistake i made 14 years ago. but on the upswing i didnt have any fog, i think only 1 dip dream, im sleeping better and better as i stack days, my craves have always been strong but i have been mentally adjusting so that i only use about 1-2 fake dips a day now and just deal with the crave like a beckoning old friend across the fence, but you know your not allowed to go out and play. for those newbies and guest reading i hope this helps you on your journey. has it been easy, No, but every day i wake up and post roll like clock work and stack another day of quittin on the pile. I advance my quit by reading the archives here at KTC, playing wildcard, and do my best to motivate, push, and lead our april 21 thunderbird group.  I would not have it any other way. sitting at 70 is like climbing that 3 mile uphill mountain, your legs are quivering, lungs about to bust with exhaustion, your brain telling you this is stupid and to turn around and go home, but just when your about to break you hit that peak. You look down at the valley and waves of trees below, and than you look up to a sunset with streaks of pink and purple splattered across the sky. you smile, just for a second knowing that effort was worth every ache and pain, and than you head down and onward because you got more trail ahead. More dirt to pound, more challenges and accomplishment on the horizon before you can rest. ( 70 is just one of the many peaks ive hit, God bless everyone here at KTC and lets keep arrow straight and true ) LTBE - EDD - QLAMF - NAFAR- WE AFTER IT!

Keep up the badass quitting brother
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on March 10, 2021, 02:03:35 PM
~Day 70~

     The journey to seventy has been a interesting one. It feels like time has slowed since i was at day 30. don't get me wrong its still been really hard, but i feel each set of 10 comes with there own challenges. the downside of 60s were the headache and nausea i felt every morning, like a wave beating against a stone reminding me of that stupid mistake i made 14 years ago. but on the upswing i didnt have any fog, i think only 1 dip dream, im sleeping better and better as i stack days, my craves have always been strong but i have been mentally adjusting so that i only use about 1-2 fake dips a day now and just deal with the crave like a beckoning old friend across the fence, but you know your not allowed to go out and play. for those newbies and guest reading i hope this helps you on your journey. has it been easy, No, but every day i wake up and post roll like clock work and stack another day of quittin on the pile. I advance my quit by reading the archives here at KTC, playing wildcard, and do my best to motivate, push, and lead our april 21 thunderbird group.  I would not have it any other way. sitting at 70 is like climbing that 3 mile uphill mountain, your legs are quivering, lungs about to bust with exhaustion, your brain telling you this is stupid and to turn around and go home, but just when your about to break you hit that peak. You look down at the valley and waves of trees below, and than you look up to a sunset with streaks of pink and purple splattered across the sky. you smile, just for a second knowing that effort was worth every ache and pain, and than you head down and onward because you got more trail ahead. More dirt to pound, more challenges and accomplishment on the horizon before you can rest. ( 70 is just one of the many peaks ive hit, God bless everyone here at KTC and lets keep arrow straight and true ) LTBE - EDD - QLAMF - NAFAR- WE AFTER IT!

Keep up the badass quitting brother
appreciate you man, one thing we know for sure is will never dip again, and there is a relief in knowing that! always holding the shield to your left brother quit on quitting on!
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on March 10, 2021, 02:05:48 PM
~Day 70~

     The journey to seventy has been a interesting one. It feels like time has slowed since i was at day 30. don't get me wrong its still been really hard, but i feel each set of 10 comes with there own challenges. the downside of 60s were the headache and nausea i felt every morning, like a wave beating against a stone reminding me of that stupid mistake i made 14 years ago. but on the upswing i didnt have any fog, i think only 1 dip dream, im sleeping better and better as i stack days, my craves have always been strong but i have been mentally adjusting so that i only use about 1-2 fake dips a day now and just deal with the crave like a beckoning old friend across the fence, but you know your not allowed to go out and play. for those newbies and guest reading i hope this helps you on your journey. has it been easy, No, but every day i wake up and post roll like clock work and stack another day of quittin on the pile. I advance my quit by reading the archives here at KTC, playing wildcard, and do my best to motivate, push, and lead our april 21 thunderbird group.  I would not have it any other way. sitting at 70 is like climbing that 3 mile uphill mountain, your legs are quivering, lungs about to bust with exhaustion, your brain telling you this is stupid and to turn around and go home, but just when your about to break you hit that peak. You look down at the valley and waves of trees below, and than you look up to a sunset with streaks of pink and purple splattered across the sky. you smile, just for a second knowing that effort was worth every ache and pain, and than you head down and onward because you got more trail ahead. More dirt to pound, more challenges and accomplishment on the horizon before you can rest. ( 70 is just one of the many peaks ive hit, God bless everyone here at KTC and lets keep arrow straight and true ) LTBE - EDD - QLAMF - NAFAR- WE AFTER IT!

You are absolutely crushing it my friend!  Stick to your routine!

PTBQWYT

-Jeff
Great job quitting one day at a time!  Keep blogging it out and sharing your quit experience.  It is a great way to pay it forward and help others.
You're in the thick of it for sure. Stay the course. Badass.
Thanks CD love reading your stuff hear around the site. damn proud to be quittin with ya.
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on March 11, 2021, 10:44:44 AM
Another reason to stay quit.

     Ive been back and forth on weather to post about this, but i decided it may help others to quit or for those here already continue to stay quit.
Last December , Right after Christmas  my uncle (age 50) found out he has a rare throat stage 4a cancer .  My uncle swears he got it from dipping all these years. (doctors don't have 100% proof its from tobacco) but it likely is. he also has a serious heart condition where his valves are blocked. so the weeks have been up and down as the doctors decide which they try to treat first, a bad aggressive cancer, or a failing heart. unfortunately  with his heart he has only had 1 chemo round out of the 3 he should already have had. he got rushed to the hospital today because of his heart. you see he dipped for as long as i can remember. Every one in these flat lands of ohio boy seem to dip, so he was just another pawn in big tobaccos game. i Remember being scared of my parents knowing i chewed, but when i would go out with my uncle to cut wood or bail hay i noticed him packing his lip all the time. I also remember the shock and pride i felt when i was 19or 20 and me and my uncle were working on shingling his roof , and he asked me for a dip, (he was a wintergreen longhorn dipper i was a wintergreen grizzly guy). It was like hell yea look at me and my uncle grinding this job out with big dips in and he needed a dip from me how cool.
    *Back to the present* i get to watch my uncle swell up, face look like a balloon, watch his hair start falling out. This man i look up to being tore apart by the mistakes of our past and the addiction we held onto. He is in utter and complete misery! He is a man that never askes for anything , takes pride in everything he does, and is stubborn as a mule. Now he needs help in almost all aspects , i can see his tired eyes and hate for his situation. I watch him and think this still could be me, it could be anyone of us who became a pickle. 3 months in at the age 50 and everyday his life is on the line. i have hope but reality is bleak.
    i will update his journey as i find things out, but no if a story of a prideful man brought down to his knees because the nic bitch gave him cancer, don't make you toss that fucking can , i don't no what will. ( i Quit for myself before he told me he had cancer) I hope you make the right choice today guest and save your life. And for those wavering and struggling here at KTC read this and think better of putting that Horse shit in your mouth!

~nick-Otine Free 72, LTBE~
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: macattack on March 11, 2021, 11:15:28 AM
Another reason to stay quit.

     Ive been back and forth on weather to post about this, but i decided it may help others to quit or for those here already continue to stay quit.
Last December , Right after Christmas  my uncle (age 50) found out he has a rare throat stage 4a cancer .  My uncle swears he got it from dipping all these years. (doctors don't have 100% proof its from tobacco) but it likely is. he also has a serious heart condition where his valves are blocked. so the weeks have been up and down as the doctors decide which they try to treat first, a bad aggressive cancer, or a failing heart. unfortunately  with his heart he has only had 1 chemo round out of the 3 he should already have had. he got rushed to the hospital today because of his heart. you see he dipped for as long as i can remember. Every one in these flat lands of ohio boy seem to dip, so he was just another pawn in big tobaccos game. i Remember being scared of my parents knowing i chewed, but when i would go out with my uncle to cut wood or bail hay i noticed him packing his lip all the time. I also remember the shock and pride i felt when i was 19or 20 and me and my uncle were working on shingling his roof , and he asked me for a dip, (he was a wintergreen longhorn dipper i was a wintergreen grizzly guy). It was like hell yea look at me and my uncle grinding this job out with big dips in and he needed a dip from me how cool.
    *Back to the present* i get to watch my uncle swell up, face look like a balloon, watch his hair start falling out. This man i look up to being tore apart by the mistakes of our past and the addiction we held onto. He is in utter and complete misery! He is a man that never askes for anything , takes pride in everything he does, and is stubborn as a mule. Now he needs help in almost all aspects , i can see his tired eyes and hate for his situation. I watch him and think this still could be me, it could be anyone of us who became a pickle. 3 months in at the age 50 and everyday his life is on the line. i have hope but reality is bleak.
    i will update his journey as i find things out, but no if a story of a prideful man brought down to his knees because the nic bitch gave him cancer, don't make you toss that fucking can , i don't no what will. ( i Quit for myself before he told me he had cancer) I hope you make the right choice today guest and save your life. And for those wavering and struggling here at KTC read this and think better of putting that Horse shit in your mouth!

~nick-Otine Free 72, LTBE~

The fact that I am at an increased risk for cancer is why I quit. Hopefully the hypochondriac fear lessens as the days pass but the the fact that I was slowly killing myself was a contributing factor to one of my quits.
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: MN_Engineer on March 11, 2021, 12:32:39 PM
Another reason to stay quit.

     Ive been back and forth on weather to post about this, but i decided it may help others to quit or for those here already continue to stay quit.
Last December , Right after Christmas  my uncle (age 50) found out he has a rare throat stage 4a cancer .  My uncle swears he got it from dipping all these years. (doctors don't have 100% proof its from tobacco) but it likely is. he also has a serious heart condition where his valves are blocked. so the weeks have been up and down as the doctors decide which they try to treat first, a bad aggressive cancer, or a failing heart. unfortunately  with his heart he has only had 1 chemo round out of the 3 he should already have had. he got rushed to the hospital today because of his heart. you see he dipped for as long as i can remember. Every one in these flat lands of ohio boy seem to dip, so he was just another pawn in big tobaccos game. i Remember being scared of my parents knowing i chewed, but when i would go out with my uncle to cut wood or bail hay i noticed him packing his lip all the time. I also remember the shock and pride i felt when i was 19or 20 and me and my uncle were working on shingling his roof , and he asked me for a dip, (he was a wintergreen longhorn dipper i was a wintergreen grizzly guy). It was like hell yea look at me and my uncle grinding this job out with big dips in and he needed a dip from me how cool.
    *Back to the present* i get to watch my uncle swell up, face look like a balloon, watch his hair start falling out. This man i look up to being tore apart by the mistakes of our past and the addiction we held onto. He is in utter and complete misery! He is a man that never askes for anything , takes pride in everything he does, and is stubborn as a mule. Now he needs help in almost all aspects , i can see his tired eyes and hate for his situation. I watch him and think this still could be me, it could be anyone of us who became a pickle. 3 months in at the age 50 and everyday his life is on the line. i have hope but reality is bleak.
    i will update his journey as i find things out, but no if a story of a prideful man brought down to his knees because the nic bitch gave him cancer, don't make you toss that fucking can , i don't no what will. ( i Quit for myself before he told me he had cancer) I hope you make the right choice today guest and save your life. And for those wavering and struggling here at KTC read this and think better of putting that Horse shit in your mouth!

~nick-Otine Free 72, LTBE~

The fact that I am at an increased risk for cancer is why I quit. Hopefully the hypochondriac fear lessens as the days pass but the the fact that I was slowly killing myself was a contributing factor to one of my quits.
Fear can be a significant motivating factor. Just make sure when that fear subsides you don't justify feeding your addiction again. Quitting because you desire the freedom of not being controlled by a dead, poisonous plant in a plastic can is a more pure motive that will sustain you far into your quit.

ODAAT
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: Thefranks5 on March 11, 2021, 05:26:10 PM
Another reason to stay quit.

     Ive been back and forth on weather to post about this, but i decided it may help others to quit or for those here already continue to stay quit.
Last December , Right after Christmas  my uncle (age 50) found out he has a rare throat stage 4a cancer .  My uncle swears he got it from dipping all these years. (doctors don't have 100% proof its from tobacco) but it likely is. he also has a serious heart condition where his valves are blocked. so the weeks have been up and down as the doctors decide which they try to treat first, a bad aggressive cancer, or a failing heart. unfortunately  with his heart he has only had 1 chemo round out of the 3 he should already have had. he got rushed to the hospital today because of his heart. you see he dipped for as long as i can remember. Every one in these flat lands of ohio boy seem to dip, so he was just another pawn in big tobaccos game. i Remember being scared of my parents knowing i chewed, but when i would go out with my uncle to cut wood or bail hay i noticed him packing his lip all the time. I also remember the shock and pride i felt when i was 19or 20 and me and my uncle were working on shingling his roof , and he asked me for a dip, (he was a wintergreen longhorn dipper i was a wintergreen grizzly guy). It was like hell yea look at me and my uncle grinding this job out with big dips in and he needed a dip from me how cool.
    *Back to the present* i get to watch my uncle swell up, face look like a balloon, watch his hair start falling out. This man i look up to being tore apart by the mistakes of our past and the addiction we held onto. He is in utter and complete misery! He is a man that never askes for anything , takes pride in everything he does, and is stubborn as a mule. Now he needs help in almost all aspects , i can see his tired eyes and hate for his situation. I watch him and think this still could be me, it could be anyone of us who became a pickle. 3 months in at the age 50 and everyday his life is on the line. i have hope but reality is bleak.
    i will update his journey as i find things out, but no if a story of a prideful man brought down to his knees because the nic bitch gave him cancer, don't make you toss that fucking can , i don't no what will. ( i Quit for myself before he told me he had cancer) I hope you make the right choice today guest and save your life. And for those wavering and struggling here at KTC read this and think better of putting that Horse shit in your mouth!

~nick-Otine Free 72, LTBE~

The fact that I am at an increased risk for cancer is why I quit. Hopefully the hypochondriac fear lessens as the days pass but the the fact that I was slowly killing myself was a contributing factor to one of my quits.
Fear can be a significant motivating factor. Just make sure when that fear subsides you don't justify feeding your addiction again. Quitting because you desire the freedom of not being controlled by a dead, poisonous plant in a plastic can is a more pure motive that will sustain you far into your quit.

ODAAT

Great to hear Nic and keep doing what you do. I am nervous still to think that could happen to me but it is ironic that we never thought of that when we chewed. My wives coworkers husband was diagnosed 3 years ago with cancer, went thru the chemo/radiation and many many surgeries. Well he started to have discharges from his jaw because it just never healed so they took a sample and it came back positive for cancer. It sucks as he can no longer get chemo/radiation and they have nothing left to operate on. They are going to try an experimental drug that they hope will keep it from spreading but we don't know yet. I am just over one year quit but I still chewed for two years after he was diagnosed so that dadburned weed is good at telling us that all is well. I have two boys that I tell all the time to not even try it as its not worth it. I know that they will do what they want once out of the house but if I can keep them clean for now they will remember that. I just had a long conversation with a fellow quitter today about still having that desire and crave even a year in. He said that overcoming alcoholism was easier for him then quitting dip. So that tells ya how bad of a pull this crap really does have on us. So for all the newbies and lurkers, there are plenty of vets here that will help you out if you ask. I for one am grateful for the vets that called me out and helped me out. I am grateful for the vets that called my cell phone when I sent a t disturbing text to them. I am grateful for the new guys that I am helping because when you help others you ultimately are helping yourself. Thanks again to all here on KTC and put your heart into your quit, it is more then worth it and you will be GRATEFUL. God bless you all

Doug
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on March 12, 2021, 02:48:43 PM
 Peaceful easy feeling (https://youtu.be/KQlwYaCXNCM) Got that Friday Good vibin'  kinda quit today.

'Cause I gota peacefullllllll easy Quittin'
And I know my brothers won't let me down
'Cause I'm already standin'
On the ground

     Only make challenges as hard as you want to in this life friends. Guests , i hope ya snag a spot on that awesome June 21 spot. saving your life has never been so easy, take the embarrassment off yourself finally and do something noble. Quit for yourself today and only yourself and will help ya drink the kool-aid . Takes some real Guts to do what we do here everyday. sing that song above and lets take this one day at a time, because thats all we have at this givin moment.

     Proud to be quitting with everyone here at KTC , Its impacted my life in a way that even i am not fully sure of how right now, but i no its good. Each person and group and woven and entangled in a perfect design to save ones life. Just as a Doctor and EMT rush to their patients my brethren rush to me when i need them, and i to them when they need me. "Its a peaceful easy feelin'" in the storm of nicotine and the rewireing of your body from its dependency, it nice to know there is a light. LTBE- ILL BE QUITTIN with you newbie quest soon, and will ALways be Quttin with those allready here!
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on March 15, 2021, 07:53:12 AM
 how ya livin' , Just stand (https://youtu.be/Bg_Q7KYWG1g)

Feeling back to day 1, Craves that are hitting me so hard it almost makes my eyes water thank god for fakes and the support hear at KTC. Feeling foggy, got a couple hours of sleep, jaw hurts pretty good, craving itchs at day 75. hopefully this don't last long feeling miserible but motivation like linked above keep me pushing forward. quiting is hard but worth it. stay quit brothers , im putting my head down and buckling my boot straps to get past this mountain.
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: macattack on March 15, 2021, 08:43:51 AM
how ya livin' , Just stand (https://youtu.be/Bg_Q7KYWG1g)

Feeling back to day 1, Craves that are hitting me so hard it almost makes my eyes water thank god for fakes and the support hear at KTC. Feeling foggy, got a couple hours of sleep, jaw hurts pretty good, craving itchs at day 75. hopefully this don't last long feeling miserible but motivation like linked above keep me pushing forward. quiting is hard but worth it. stay quit brothers , im putting my head down and buckling my boot straps to get past this mountain.

Hang in there brother, you have my digits if you need them. The Fog is no joke. It lasted ten days for me. You'll hit a high like I did once its over. IQWYT
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: Freddi on March 15, 2021, 02:31:19 PM
how ya livin' , Just stand (https://youtu.be/Bg_Q7KYWG1g)

Feeling back to day 1, Craves that are hitting me so hard it almost makes my eyes water thank god for fakes and the support hear at KTC. Feeling foggy, got a couple hours of sleep, jaw hurts pretty good, craving itchs at day 75. hopefully this don't last long feeling miserible but motivation like linked above keep me pushing forward. quiting is hard but worth it. stay quit brothers , im putting my head down and buckling my boot straps to get past this mountain.

I know you've been told this before, but I'm gonna throw it up again, only because sometimes in the fog we 'forget' or only 'kinda listen'.

THE ONLY THINGS the worked for Freddi;

1) Drink.  I mean lots of water. Like; I have to pee all the time. amount.  I had pretty good luck with Dt.Dew, too. (drinking a lot of it on the fog days) Yes I understand that that is it's own problem, with all the caffeine.....but I've never heard of anyone getting cancer from caffiene.
2) MOVE.  Walk.  Jog. Jumping Jacks.  DO SOMETHING.   Fresh air seems to make it better faster.

You got this....don't let the bitch play.



Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: macattack on March 15, 2021, 02:43:50 PM
how ya livin' , Just stand (https://youtu.be/Bg_Q7KYWG1g)

Feeling back to day 1, Craves that are hitting me so hard it almost makes my eyes water thank god for fakes and the support hear at KTC. Feeling foggy, got a couple hours of sleep, jaw hurts pretty good, craving itchs at day 75. hopefully this don't last long feeling miserible but motivation like linked above keep me pushing forward. quiting is hard but worth it. stay quit brothers , im putting my head down and buckling my boot straps to get past this mountain.

I know you've been told this before, but I'm gonna throw it up again, only because sometimes in the fog we 'forget' or only 'kinda listen'.

THE ONLY THINGS the worked for Freddi;

1) Drink.  I mean lots of water. Like; I have to pee all the time. amount.  I had pretty good luck with Dt.Dew, too. (drinking a lot of it on the fog days) Yes I understand that that is it's own problem, with all the caffeine.....but I've never heard of anyone getting cancer from caffiene.
2) MOVE.  Walk.  Jog. Jumping Jacks.  DO SOMETHING.   Fresh air seems to make it better faster.

You got this....don't let the bitch play.

I've taken up pickleball in my old age of 31 to curb the cravings
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on March 15, 2021, 02:51:45 PM
how ya livin' , Just stand (https://youtu.be/Bg_Q7KYWG1g)

Feeling back to day 1, Craves that are hitting me so hard it almost makes my eyes water thank god for fakes and the support hear at KTC. Feeling foggy, got a couple hours of sleep, jaw hurts pretty good, craving itchs at day 75. hopefully this don't last long feeling miserible but motivation like linked above keep me pushing forward. quiting is hard but worth it. stay quit brothers , im putting my head down and buckling my boot straps to get past this mountain.

I know you've been told this before, but I'm gonna throw it up again, only because sometimes in the fog we 'forget' or only 'kinda listen'.

THE ONLY THINGS the worked for Freddi;

1) Drink.  I mean lots of water. Like; I have to pee all the time. amount.  I had pretty good luck with Dt.Dew, too. (drinking a lot of it on the fog days) Yes I understand that that is it's own problem, with all the caffeine.....but I've never heard of anyone getting cancer from caffiene.
2) MOVE.  Walk.  Jog. Jumping Jacks.  DO SOMETHING.   Fresh air seems to make it better faster.

You got this....don't let the bitch play.

I've taken up pickleball in my old age of 31 to curb the cravings
that some kind of weird game , that you drop your satchel in a jar of pickle juice or something?  ;)
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: macattack on March 15, 2021, 02:52:27 PM
how ya livin' , Just stand (https://youtu.be/Bg_Q7KYWG1g)

Feeling back to day 1, Craves that are hitting me so hard it almost makes my eyes water thank god for fakes and the support hear at KTC. Feeling foggy, got a couple hours of sleep, jaw hurts pretty good, craving itchs at day 75. hopefully this don't last long feeling miserible but motivation like linked above keep me pushing forward. quiting is hard but worth it. stay quit brothers , im putting my head down and buckling my boot straps to get past this mountain.

I know you've been told this before, but I'm gonna throw it up again, only because sometimes in the fog we 'forget' or only 'kinda listen'.

THE ONLY THINGS the worked for Freddi;

1) Drink.  I mean lots of water. Like; I have to pee all the time. amount.  I had pretty good luck with Dt.Dew, too. (drinking a lot of it on the fog days) Yes I understand that that is it's own problem, with all the caffeine.....but I've never heard of anyone getting cancer from caffiene.
2) MOVE.  Walk.  Jog. Jumping Jacks.  DO SOMETHING.   Fresh air seems to make it better faster.

You got this....don't let the bitch play.

I've taken up pickleball in my old age of 31 to curb the cravings
that some kind of weird game , that you drop your satchel in pickle juice or something?  ;)


its geared for old people who can't play tennis anymore but want to be "active"
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on March 15, 2021, 03:02:53 PM
how ya livin' , Just stand (https://youtu.be/Bg_Q7KYWG1g)

Feeling back to day 1, Craves that are hitting me so hard it almost makes my eyes water thank god for fakes and the support hear at KTC. Feeling foggy, got a couple hours of sleep, jaw hurts pretty good, craving itchs at day 75. hopefully this don't last long feeling miserible but motivation like linked above keep me pushing forward. quiting is hard but worth it. stay quit brothers , im putting my head down and buckling my boot straps to get past this mountain.

I know you've been told this before, but I'm gonna throw it up again, only because sometimes in the fog we 'forget' or only 'kinda listen'.

THE ONLY THINGS the worked for Freddi;

1) Drink.  I mean lots of water. Like; I have to pee all the time. amount.  I had pretty good luck with Dt.Dew, too. (drinking a lot of it on the fog days) Yes I understand that that is it's own problem, with all the caffeine.....but I've never heard of anyone getting cancer from caffiene.
2) MOVE.  Walk.  Jog. Jumping Jacks.  DO SOMETHING.   Fresh air seems to make it better faster.

You got this....don't let the bitch play.

I've taken up pickleball in my old age of 31 to curb the cravings
that some kind of weird game , that you drop your satchel in pickle juice or something?  ;)


its geared for old people who can't play tennis anymore but want to be "active"
lol so you play penuckle than as well. will get ya a cain and a chair brother.
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: macattack on March 15, 2021, 03:07:07 PM
how ya livin' , Just stand (https://youtu.be/Bg_Q7KYWG1g)

Feeling back to day 1, Craves that are hitting me so hard it almost makes my eyes water thank god for fakes and the support hear at KTC. Feeling foggy, got a couple hours of sleep, jaw hurts pretty good, craving itchs at day 75. hopefully this don't last long feeling miserible but motivation like linked above keep me pushing forward. quiting is hard but worth it. stay quit brothers , im putting my head down and buckling my boot straps to get past this mountain.

I know you've been told this before, but I'm gonna throw it up again, only because sometimes in the fog we 'forget' or only 'kinda listen'.

THE ONLY THINGS the worked for Freddi;

1) Drink.  I mean lots of water. Like; I have to pee all the time. amount.  I had pretty good luck with Dt.Dew, too. (drinking a lot of it on the fog days) Yes I understand that that is it's own problem, with all the caffeine.....but I've never heard of anyone getting cancer from caffiene.
2) MOVE.  Walk.  Jog. Jumping Jacks.  DO SOMETHING.   Fresh air seems to make it better faster.

You got this....don't let the bitch play.

I've taken up pickleball in my old age of 31 to curb the cravings
that some kind of weird game , that you drop your satchel in pickle juice or something?  ;)


its geared for old people who can't play tennis anymore but want to be "active"
lol so you play penuckle than as well. will get ya a cain and a chair brother.

I love penuckle, that and Euchre. I'm a michigan boy till the day I die
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: Freddi on March 15, 2021, 03:24:39 PM
how ya livin' , Just stand (https://youtu.be/Bg_Q7KYWG1g)

Feeling back to day 1, Craves that are hitting me so hard it almost makes my eyes water thank god for fakes and the support hear at KTC. Feeling foggy, got a couple hours of sleep, jaw hurts pretty good, craving itchs at day 75. hopefully this don't last long feeling miserible but motivation like linked above keep me pushing forward. quiting is hard but worth it. stay quit brothers , im putting my head down and buckling my boot straps to get past this mountain.

I know you've been told this before, but I'm gonna throw it up again, only because sometimes in the fog we 'forget' or only 'kinda listen'.

THE ONLY THINGS the worked for Freddi;

1) Drink.  I mean lots of water. Like; I have to pee all the time. amount.  I had pretty good luck with Dt.Dew, too. (drinking a lot of it on the fog days) Yes I understand that that is it's own problem, with all the caffeine.....but I've never heard of anyone getting cancer from caffiene.
2) MOVE.  Walk.  Jog. Jumping Jacks.  DO SOMETHING.   Fresh air seems to make it better faster.

You got this....don't let the bitch play.

I've taken up pickleball in my old age of 31 to curb the cravings
that some kind of weird game , that you drop your satchel in pickle juice or something?  ;)


its geared for old people who can't play tennis anymore but want to be "active"
lol so you play penuckle than as well. will get ya a cain and a chair brother.

I love penuckle, that and Euchre. I'm a michigan boy till the day I die

All the 'trump card' games....Hearts, Spades, Euchre...love them all.  Any game that lets you complete fuck someone over when you get good....I love them!
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on March 15, 2021, 03:29:13 PM
how ya livin' , Just stand (https://youtu.be/Bg_Q7KYWG1g)

Feeling back to day 1, Craves that are hitting me so hard it almost makes my eyes water thank god for fakes and the support hear at KTC. Feeling foggy, got a couple hours of sleep, jaw hurts pretty good, craving itchs at day 75. hopefully this don't last long feeling miserible but motivation like linked above keep me pushing forward. quiting is hard but worth it. stay quit brothers , im putting my head down and buckling my boot straps to get past this mountain.

I know you've been told this before, but I'm gonna throw it up again, only because sometimes in the fog we 'forget' or only 'kinda listen'.

THE ONLY THINGS the worked for Freddi;

1) Drink.  I mean lots of water. Like; I have to pee all the time. amount.  I had pretty good luck with Dt.Dew, too. (drinking a lot of it on the fog days) Yes I understand that that is it's own problem, with all the caffeine.....but I've never heard of anyone getting cancer from caffiene.
2) MOVE.  Walk.  Jog. Jumping Jacks.  DO SOMETHING.   Fresh air seems to make it better faster.

You got this....don't let the bitch play.

I've taken up pickleball in my old age of 31 to curb the cravings
that some kind of weird game , that you drop your satchel in pickle juice or something?  ;)


its geared for old people who can't play tennis anymore but want to be "active"
lol so you play penuckle than as well. will get ya a cain and a chair brother.

I love penuckle, that and Euchre. I'm a michigan boy till the day I die

All the 'trump card' games....Hearts, Spades, Euchre...love them all.  Any game that lets you complete fuck someone over when you get good....I love them!
i like them games as well, and are we gonna not act like you throwing that M bomb on my intro page!! OH.................
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: Freddi on March 15, 2021, 03:33:53 PM
how ya livin' , Just stand (https://youtu.be/Bg_Q7KYWG1g)

Feeling back to day 1, Craves that are hitting me so hard it almost makes my eyes water thank god for fakes and the support hear at KTC. Feeling foggy, got a couple hours of sleep, jaw hurts pretty good, craving itchs at day 75. hopefully this don't last long feeling miserible but motivation like linked above keep me pushing forward. quiting is hard but worth it. stay quit brothers , im putting my head down and buckling my boot straps to get past this mountain.

I know you've been told this before, but I'm gonna throw it up again, only because sometimes in the fog we 'forget' or only 'kinda listen'.

THE ONLY THINGS the worked for Freddi;

1) Drink.  I mean lots of water. Like; I have to pee all the time. amount.  I had pretty good luck with Dt.Dew, too. (drinking a lot of it on the fog days) Yes I understand that that is it's own problem, with all the caffeine.....but I've never heard of anyone getting cancer from caffiene.
2) MOVE.  Walk.  Jog. Jumping Jacks.  DO SOMETHING.   Fresh air seems to make it better faster.

You got this....don't let the bitch play.

I've taken up pickleball in my old age of 31 to curb the cravings
that some kind of weird game , that you drop your satchel in pickle juice or something?  ;)


its geared for old people who can't play tennis anymore but want to be "active"
lol so you play penuckle than as well. will get ya a cain and a chair brother.

I love penuckle, that and Euchre. I'm a michigan boy till the day I die

All the 'trump card' games....Hearts, Spades, Euchre...love them all.  Any game that lets you complete fuck someone over when you get good....I love them!
i like them games as well, and are we gonna not act like you throwing that M bomb on my intro page!! OH.................

Am I supposed to say sorry?  Or did I get your brain busy in a new direction.......you decide! (trump card, trump card, trump card.....)
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: JeffH4257 on March 15, 2021, 04:29:25 PM
how ya livin' , Just stand (https://youtu.be/Bg_Q7KYWG1g)

Feeling back to day 1, Craves that are hitting me so hard it almost makes my eyes water thank god for fakes and the support hear at KTC. Feeling foggy, got a couple hours of sleep, jaw hurts pretty good, craving itchs at day 75. hopefully this don't last long feeling miserible but motivation like linked above keep me pushing forward. quiting is hard but worth it. stay quit brothers , im putting my head down and buckling my boot straps to get past this mountain.

I know you've been told this before, but I'm gonna throw it up again, only because sometimes in the fog we 'forget' or only 'kinda listen'.

THE ONLY THINGS the worked for Freddi;

1) Drink.  I mean lots of water. Like; I have to pee all the time. amount.  I had pretty good luck with Dt.Dew, too. (drinking a lot of it on the fog days) Yes I understand that that is it's own problem, with all the caffeine.....but I've never heard of anyone getting cancer from caffiene.
2) MOVE.  Walk.  Jog. Jumping Jacks.  DO SOMETHING.   Fresh air seems to make it better faster.

You got this....don't let the bitch play.

I've taken up pickleball in my old age of 31 to curb the cravings
that some kind of weird game , that you drop your satchel in pickle juice or something?  ;)


its geared for old people who can't play tennis anymore but want to be "active"
lol so you play penuckle than as well. will get ya a cain and a chair brother.

I love penuckle, that and Euchre. I'm a michigan boy till the day I die

All the 'trump card' games....Hearts, Spades, Euchre...love them all.  Any game that lets you complete fuck someone over when you get good....I love them!
i like them games as well, and are we gonna not act like you throwing that M bomb on my intro page!! OH.................

Am I supposed to say sorry?  Or did I get your brain busy in a new direction.......you decide! (trump card, trump card, trump card.....)

 Geri's Game  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IYRC7g2ICg)

Is the type of game you all are talking about?
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: Thefranks5 on March 15, 2021, 08:42:23 PM
how ya livin' , Just stand (https://youtu.be/Bg_Q7KYWG1g)

Feeling back to day 1, Craves that are hitting me so hard it almost makes my eyes water thank god for fakes and the support hear at KTC. Feeling foggy, got a couple hours of sleep, jaw hurts pretty good, craving itchs at day 75. hopefully this don't last long feeling miserible but motivation like linked above keep me pushing forward. quiting is hard but worth it. stay quit brothers , im putting my head down and buckling my boot straps to get past this mountain.

I know you've been told this before, but I'm gonna throw it up again, only because sometimes in the fog we 'forget' or only 'kinda listen'.

THE ONLY THINGS the worked for Freddi;

1) Drink.  I mean lots of water. Like; I have to pee all the time. amount.  I had pretty good luck with Dt.Dew, too. (drinking a lot of it on the fog days) Yes I understand that that is it's own problem, with all the caffeine.....but I've never heard of anyone getting cancer from caffiene.
2) MOVE.  Walk.  Jog. Jumping Jacks.  DO SOMETHING.   Fresh air seems to make it better faster.

You got this....don't let the bitch play.

I've taken up pickleball in my old age of 31 to curb the cravings
that some kind of weird game , that you drop your satchel in pickle juice or something?  ;)


its geared for old people who can't play tennis anymore but want to be "active"
lol so you play penuckle than as well. will get ya a cain and a chair brother.

I love penuckle, that and Euchre. I'm a michigan boy till the day I die

All the 'trump card' games....Hearts, Spades, Euchre...love them all.  Any game that lets you complete fuck someone over when you get good....I love them!
i like them games as well, and are we gonna not act like you throwing that M bomb on my intro page!! OH.................

Am I supposed to say sorry?  Or did I get your brain busy in a new direction.......you decide! (trump card, trump card, trump card.....)

 Geri's Game  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IYRC7g2ICg)

Is the type of game you all are talking about?
Love seeing this Nic. How is that crave now? Keep it up young man your doing great.
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: EXBEARHAG on March 15, 2021, 10:16:49 PM
how ya livin' , Just stand (https://youtu.be/Bg_Q7KYWG1g)

Feeling back to day 1, Craves that are hitting me so hard it almost makes my eyes water thank god for fakes and the support hear at KTC. Feeling foggy, got a couple hours of sleep, jaw hurts pretty good, craving itchs at day 75. hopefully this don't last long feeling miserible but motivation like linked above keep me pushing forward. quiting is hard but worth it. stay quit brothers , im putting my head down and buckling my boot straps to get past this mountain.

I know you've been told this before, but I'm gonna throw it up again, only because sometimes in the fog we 'forget' or only 'kinda listen'.

THE ONLY THINGS the worked for Freddi;

1) Drink.  I mean lots of water. Like; I have to pee all the time. amount.  I had pretty good luck with Dt.Dew, too. (drinking a lot of it on the fog days) Yes I understand that that is it's own problem, with all the caffeine.....but I've never heard of anyone getting cancer from caffiene.
2) MOVE.  Walk.  Jog. Jumping Jacks.  DO SOMETHING.   Fresh air seems to make it better faster.

You got this....don't let the bitch play.

I've taken up pickleball in my old age of 31 to curb the cravings
that some kind of weird game , that you drop your satchel in pickle juice or something?  ;)


its geared for old people who can't play tennis anymore but want to be "active"
lol so you play penuckle than as well. will get ya a cain and a chair brother.

I love penuckle, that and Euchre. I'm a michigan boy till the day I die

All the 'trump card' games....Hearts, Spades, Euchre...love them all.  Any game that lets you complete fuck someone over when you get good....I love them!
i like them games as well, and are we gonna not act like you throwing that M bomb on my intro page!! OH.................

Am I supposed to say sorry?  Or did I get your brain busy in a new direction.......you decide! (trump card, trump card, trump card.....)

 Geri's Game  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IYRC7g2ICg)

Is the type of game you all are talking about?
Love seeing this Nic. How is that crave now? Keep it up young man your doing great.

Hey Nic.  I hear ya brother.  Just today I was yearning for something and found myself subconsciously patting my back pocket for the can that hasn't been there for 609 days.  The battle is real and goes on. 

The good news, and difference between this quit and previous stoppages, is that we have this place.  Posting roll, keeping my promise, making connections with other like minded people...these things have made the difference for me.  I didn't believe they would when I first signed on but I was wrong.  Keep doing what you're doing, use your tools, follow the program and you'll succeed.

PTBQWYT my friend

~HAG
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on March 16, 2021, 07:33:33 AM
Is your Oil burning?  (https://youtu.be/APN8MMW0Sho)

     This is a great message for not only guest to get off their ass and quit but for people like myself that are in the funk. listen to it, watch it, and apply it to your quit. some snip-its are: Courage, most people go through life not allowing themselves to step out because they don't want to let go(toss that fucking can). they dont wanna be blown around! they dont want to be moved!(dipping is just to damn important to them). The courage to face lies, whirling, wind of contradictions! The courage to love your self more than addiction! Courage is not for somebody else, for metals, or applauses. it what feels most right to you.(cant plan your quit you just have to do it, both feet free fall). "Cowards die many times before their deaths, the Valiant never taste of death but once" does that mean valiant people are not afraid ? No, Just means us hear at KTC have experienced that fear but still moved forward. Do or Die, Sink or Swim What you will find out is you Develop incredible swimming skills. Put yourself in a position where you cant Retreat! JUNE 21 ROLL (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?topic=16943.0) throw your whole self into it! most people go at it tentatively. they dont go all in, they dont pick up all the tools.

     Today is day 77 in my quit and i appreciate you my brothers here and in my test messages. the funk is real , its holding on but im not as shocked any more it hit me Sunday afternoon out of the blue. Lucky i reached out to some guys i was in a deep crave and may have slid off my ledge lucky i was tied down and got a phone call from stillbrewing that good chance saved my quit. KTC pulled me back up to my edge again to resume battle. yes im back to being foggy, craving worse than i remember, no sleep, crazy nauseas in the morning drinking a ass load off water really has helped thanks JEFF for the advice. Mentally checked myself and here we are again, like i am every morning. This shit works folks and if ya sit around planing a quit and using, but whens, i wills, its because of this statements you will be chewing the rest of your life and killing yourself slowly. 

~Nick-Otine Free-7(7)- day 77 or day 7 feels the same but I'm prepared. LTBE- All you can do is all you can do, and all you can do is Enough. seems confusing buts its not read it again and again eventually you will correlate with it.
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: JeffH4257 on March 16, 2021, 08:15:54 AM
Is your Oil burning?  (https://youtu.be/APN8MMW0Sho)

     This is a great message for not only guest to get off their ass and quit but for people like myself that are in the funk. listen to it, watch it, and apply it to your quit. some snip-its are: Courage, most people go through life not allowing themselves to step out because they don't want to let go(toss that fucking can). they dont wanna be blown around! they dont want to be moved!(dipping is just to damn important to them). The courage to face lies, whirling, wind of contradictions! The courage to love your self more than addiction! Courage is not for somebody else, for metals, or applauses. it what feels most right to you.(cant plan your quit you just have to do it, both feet free fall). "Cowards die many times before their deaths, the Valiant never taste of death but once" does that mean valiant people are not afraid ? No, Just means us hear at KTC have experienced that fear but still moved forward. Do or Die, Sink or Swim What you will find out is you Develop incredible swimming skills. Put yourself in a position where you cant Retreat! JUNE 21 ROLL (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?topic=16943.0) throw your whole self into it! most people go at it tentatively. they dont go all in, they dont pick up all the tools.

     Today is day 77 in my quit and i appreciate you my brothers here and in my test messages. the funk is real , its holding on but im not as shocked any more it hit me Sunday afternoon out of the blue. Lucky i reached out to some guys i was in a deep crave and may have slid off my ledge lucky i was tied down and got a phone call from stillbrewing that good chance saved my quit. KTC pulled me back up to my edge again to resume battle. yes im back to being foggy, craving worse than i remember, no sleep, crazy nauseas in the morning drinking a ass load off water really has helped thanks JEFF for the advice. Mentally checked myself and here we are again, like i am every morning. This shit works folks and if ya sit around planing a quit and using, but whens, i wills, its because of this statements you will be chewing the rest of your life and killing yourself slowly. 

~Nick-Otine Free-7(7)- day 77 or day 7 feels the same but I'm prepared. LTBE- All you can do is all you can do, and all you can do is Enough. seems confusing buts its not read it again and again eventually you will correlate with it.

Keep bloggin it out brother!  Proud of you Nick for fighting through the shit.  It's  a great reminder for all of us to have multiple contacts in our phones when those moments hit us. 

"Can people have courage when they are afraid?"
-Bran Stark
"That is the only time people can have courage"
-Ned Stark
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: stillbrewing on March 16, 2021, 08:22:05 AM
Is your Oil burning?  (https://youtu.be/APN8MMW0Sho)

     This is a great message for not only guest to get off their ass and quit but for people like myself that are in the funk. listen to it, watch it, and apply it to your quit. some snip-its are: Courage, most people go through life not allowing themselves to step out because they don't want to let go(toss that fucking can). they dont wanna be blown around! they dont want to be moved!(dipping is just to damn important to them). The courage to face lies, whirling, wind of contradictions! The courage to love your self more than addiction! Courage is not for somebody else, for metals, or applauses. it what feels most right to you.(cant plan your quit you just have to do it, both feet free fall). "Cowards die many times before their deaths, the Valiant never taste of death but once" does that mean valiant people are not afraid ? No, Just means us hear at KTC have experienced that fear but still moved forward. Do or Die, Sink or Swim What you will find out is you Develop incredible swimming skills. Put yourself in a position where you cant Retreat! JUNE 21 ROLL (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?topic=16943.0) throw your whole self into it! most people go at it tentatively. they dont go all in, they dont pick up all the tools.

     Today is day 77 in my quit and i appreciate you my brothers here and in my test messages. the funk is real , its holding on but im not as shocked any more it hit me Sunday afternoon out of the blue. Lucky i reached out to some guys i was in a deep crave and may have slid off my ledge lucky i was tied down and got a phone call from stillbrewing that good chance saved my quit. KTC pulled me back up to my edge again to resume battle. yes im back to being foggy, craving worse than i remember, no sleep, crazy nauseas in the morning drinking a ass load off water really has helped thanks JEFF for the advice. Mentally checked myself and here we are again, like i am every morning. This shit works folks and if ya sit around planing a quit and using, but whens, i wills, its because of this statements you will be chewing the rest of your life and killing yourself slowly. 

~Nick-Otine Free-7(7)- day 77 or day 7 feels the same but I'm prepared. LTBE- All you can do is all you can do, and all you can do is Enough. seems confusing buts its not read it again and again eventually you will correlate with it.

Keep bloggin it out brother!  Proud of you Nick for fighting through the shit.  It's  a great reminder for all of us to have multiple contacts in our phones when those moments hit us. 

"Can people have courage when they are afraid?"
-Bran Stark
"That is the only time people can have courage"
-Ned Stark
Today is another +1 and we will not be a slave anymore! 
You got this my brother!
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on March 23, 2021, 07:18:40 AM
13 Blessed are those who find wisdom,
    those who gain understanding,
14 for she is more profitable than silver
    and yields better returns than gold.
15 She is more precious than rubies;
    nothing you desire can compare with her.
16 Long life is in her right hand;
    in her left hand are riches and honor.
17 Her ways are pleasant ways,
    and all her paths are peace.
18 She is a tree of life to those who take hold of her;
    those who hold her fast will be blessed.
Proverbs 3:13-18

      This resonated with me today, It takes a strong person to jump off their prideful train and stop and listen. To not take the wisdom that KTC offers you would idiotic. I hope all the guest reading this today find the wisdom and strength in these words and in this site to Quit today. For Quitting Nicotine will yield you far better rich's than gold. like this verse says not only God but KTC as well Offers not only a Right Hand of longer life but a left hand of Brotherhood  and tools to help you on such a difficult task that we undertake everyday. KTC could literally be your life line, it could be the one thing or place that makes you toss that can and save you from the clutch's of cancer. If you have not realized by now what chewing can do to your life please google or ask around. its a painful way to the grave, your family watch's you in torment. All these years your loved ones have begged you and like me they fell on deaf ears. Don't go another Second planning a quit. Do it now, be the change, watch as your loved ones admire you during your quit with hope and pride. You must start this journey for yourself though and be truly ready to save your life. I always extend a Olive branch, if you need help message on here or in my PM. We all deserve better Lifes and i hope you choose KTCs Blessings today.

~Nick-Otine Free- 84~ LTBE- Yesterday is long Gone, Tomorrow May never come, But Today! Today is Enough
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on March 24, 2021, 07:25:39 AM
Day 85

     I have been trying to reflect on how difficulty the last 10 days have been, but its really hard to put into words. I am finally out of that funk and feeling better for sure. Here is my best explanation of what Fog is. around day 78 or so we had some spring air come into our Ohio valley. this in turn created a deep fog. I usually drive into work in the dark so with this heavy fog it was impossible to see even the hood on my car. Note I myself am foggy brained as I'm driving, but i found it interesting how I take the same path to work every morning and no my route so much that even with this fog i could still go about the same speed. Even though i could not see i new where every pot hole was.  i would make my turns even if i couldn't see the signs telling me to do said turn. I pulled into my parking spot and sat and pondered. That is exactly what its like having a Nicotine Foggy Brain. We Try to see things out and beyond but the fog is so heavy on our eyes we can barley see each step were taking through the day. But we still know how to operate, Drive a car, make coffee, work, make dinner, and most importantly POST ROLL. I  WUPPED 75 Early morning days that when i came into my fog it didnt matter Because posting roll is routine, i could not see or concentrate but i still make it roll. now clear minded its funny i was in a zombie like state and was still Gettin er done! Programming-KTC- Digits Saved me for sure on some of those extra funky days. We pushed through that tough spot as a team and now im in a foot race to the HOF. Hope this helps people relate to what fog brain is when they ask. if not just call me a ramblin fool lol.

~Nick-Otine Free~LTBE~
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: JeffH4257 on March 24, 2021, 07:55:02 AM
Day 85

     I have been trying to reflect on how difficulty the last 10 days have been, but its really hard to put into words. I am finally out of that funk and feeling better for sure. Here is my best explanation of what Fog is. around day 78 or so we had some spring air come into our Ohio valley. this in turn created a deep fog. I usually drive into work in the dark so with this heavy fog it was impossible to see even the hood on my car. Note I myself am foggy brained as I'm driving, but i found it interesting how I take the same path to work every morning and no my route so much that even with this fog i could still go about the same speed. Even though i could not see i new where every pot hole was.  i would make my turns even if i couldn't see the signs telling me to do said turn. I pulled into my parking spot and sat and pondered. That is exactly what its like having a Nicotine Foggy Brain. We Try to see things out and beyond but the fog is so heavy on our eyes we can barley see each step were taking through the day. But we still know how to operate, Drive a car, make coffee, work, make dinner, and most importantly POST ROLL. I  WUPPED 75 Early morning days that when i came into my fog it didnt matter Because posting roll is routine, i could not see or concentrate but i still make it roll. now clear minded its funny i was in a zombie like state and was still Gettin er done! Programming-KTC- Digits Saved me for sure on some of those extra funky days. We pushed through that tough spot as a team and now im in a foot race to the HOF. Hope this helps people relate to what fog brain is when they ask. if not just call me a ramblin fool lol.

~Nick-Otine Free~LTBE~

Keep killing it Nick!!  You have made posting roll a morning routine, and by doing so, the fog ain't got shit on you.

Proud to be quit with you!

-Jeff
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: Thefranks5 on March 24, 2021, 05:59:16 PM
Day 85

     I have been trying to reflect on how difficulty the last 10 days have been, but its really hard to put into words. I am finally out of that funk and feeling better for sure. Here is my best explanation of what Fog is. around day 78 or so we had some spring air come into our Ohio valley. this in turn created a deep fog. I usually drive into work in the dark so with this heavy fog it was impossible to see even the hood on my car. Note I myself am foggy brained as I'm driving, but i found it interesting how I take the same path to work every morning and no my route so much that even with this fog i could still go about the same speed. Even though i could not see i new where every pot hole was.  i would make my turns even if i couldn't see the signs telling me to do said turn. I pulled into my parking spot and sat and pondered. That is exactly what its like having a Nicotine Foggy Brain. We Try to see things out and beyond but the fog is so heavy on our eyes we can barley see each step were taking through the day. But we still know how to operate, Drive a car, make coffee, work, make dinner, and most importantly POST ROLL. I  WUPPED 75 Early morning days that when i came into my fog it didnt matter Because posting roll is routine, i could not see or concentrate but i still make it roll. now clear minded its funny i was in a zombie like state and was still Gettin er done! Programming-KTC- Digits Saved me for sure on some of those extra funky days. We pushed through that tough spot as a team and now im in a foot race to the HOF. Hope this helps people relate to what fog brain is when they ask. if not just call me a ramblin fool lol.

~Nick-Otine Free~LTBE~

Keep killing it Nick!!  You have made posting roll a morning routine, and by doing so, the fog ain't got shit on you.

Proud to be quit with you!

-Jeff
Keep blogging it out and helping others Nick. Stay strong as that funk can show up at any time and cause many problems. Proud to be quit with ya my friend.

Doug
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on March 30, 2021, 07:56:27 AM
~A prideful man~

     Little update on my uncle, they have got his heart under control for the most part so have been able to do a couple rounds of Chemo on his Neck. At this point the Radiation has made his skin extremely thin and his skin easily breaks open and bleeds. Also the toll it has taken on his throat meant they had to give him a feeding port last Friday because he can no longer swallow safely. I pray for his recovery and its crazy the pain cancer brings not only to the victims (if you can call them that) but to the family as well.

     If you think KTC is just about "slinging Mantras and sayings around" to get you in as a numbers game you are so very wrong. Nicotine is a deadly substance and it kills. This Team of Brothers and sisters saved my life (hopefully). Its hard to go it alone, God knows i tried a few times. Even quit for a full year one time but still ended up back to the can. It takes the Gander of Brotherhood to Slam Sense into your Chemically confused brains! The Grit to say your Talking like a addict and your ass is slipping and you need to check yourself. IT WORKS! Trust me it does and i wish my uncle would have found the site before the Nic Bitch Got him! There is no one right answer or silver bullet to help you in those First few weeks, Everyone is Different and we all have to bare our sins on our shoulders and take those Withdraw lashes like a man. After all what do expect after years of pinching that horse shit in your lip! Its fucking tough no that right now, but you can overcome it by the help of this Site and its "Mantras and sayings" help push you Forward out of the pits of Suck!

    Maybe i am more passionate because i am close to it, my Aunt Died of Lung Cancer at the age of 42 from smoking about 10 years ago, Now my Uncle in his 50s is Clawing for his life because of dipping. Its not all Mantras and sayings, its a way of hopefully getting you to see the reality of what is at stake. Were not here to pat you on the butt and give you a gold star. Were hear to inform, Educate, and if need be bring the hammer down when the nicotine brain starts swinging you the wrong way! Its a cruel way to die and its the side of death i dont want to be on. I pray i saved my life in time and it was the Help of this Brotherhood that has got me this far.

     I know it sucks quitting, But we all been there, your not special we all climbed that suck mountain Many of us have made it the top, Others have Failed and rested to long and for that i have sorrow for them and pure hate for big tobacco companys. Where at war and KTC is the frontline. Im here if ya need me


~Nick~ 91 LTBE~
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on April 01, 2021, 07:50:38 AM
~Excuses~

     So as my April 21 group jumps aboard our HOF train i want you guest to know it was not easy. Alot of people make up reasons why they cant quit right now, even quitters here make up reasons why they cant make roll or WUPP. Some feel like they have other things more important going on in their lives and get pissed when a group of random Addicts start yelling at them for not giving there promise to stay clean and be held accountable for the day. We have 17 Badass Thunderbirds locked and loaded to jump into the cooler waters of 100 day/3 month sobriety. Tougher than it sound best believe me, and we lost a Total of 6 brothers along the way ( i pray they come back ) for the nicotine death is not a ending you want.

     So I heard this phrase on my morning motivation and wanted to share it because its how i feel about those 6 that didn't make it, or those who say they cant make roll or commit to being hear anymore.
     "The Great thing about Excuses, and the really dangerous thing about them, is that no matter what happens Excuses are always there waiting to be used. But the downside of Excuses, even good ones, is that nobody really believes them. If you make Excuses there going to know it, and they are going to think less of you. But if you REFUSE to rely on Excuses, people are going to know that to, and there going to admire you for it"

~Nick-LTBE-we can be better than where we were~
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: EXBEARHAG on April 01, 2021, 09:50:06 AM
~Excuses~

     So as my April 21 group jumps aboard our HOF train i want you guest to know it was not easy. Alot of people make up reasons why they cant quit right now, even quitters here make up reasons why they cant make roll or WUPP. Some feel like they have other things more important going on in their lives and get pissed when a group of random Addicts start yelling at them for not giving there promise to stay clean and be held accountable for the day. We have 17 Badass Thunderbirds locked and loaded to jump into the cooler waters of 100 day/3 month sobriety. Tougher than it sound best believe me, and we lost a Total of 6 brothers along the way ( i pray they come back ) for the nicotine death is not a ending you want.

     So I heard this phrase on my morning motivation and wanted to share it because its how i feel about those 6 that didn't make it, or those who say they cant make roll or commit to being hear anymore.
     "The Great thing about Excuses, and the really dangerous thing about them, is that no matter what happens Excuses are always there waiting to be used. But the downside of Excuses, even good ones, is that nobody really believes them. If you make Excuses there going to know it, and they are going to think less of you. But if you REFUSE to rely on Excuses, people are going to know that to, and there going to admire you for it"

~Nick-LTBE-we can be better than where we were~

I love the message Nick.  Keep pounding away my friend and stacking days.  Unfortunately, the TBIRDS will lose more members and excuses will abound.  Continue to the lead the way but know you can only do you in the end.  Your commitment and level of engagement here is already paying dividends for your quit and will continue to reinforce your resolve as you add days.  Keep it up brother.

PTBQWYT my friend

~HAG
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on April 07, 2021, 10:25:21 AM
Tbird of honor (https://youtu.be/QhCISxbO7rg)

1.,2.,3.,4.,5.,6.,7.,8., *taking steps as you hit milestones*

9.) A thunderbird is not a dipping man, he is a Quiting Man.

10) If a Brother is lost, we find him! If he is late, we call him out! If he is craving we pull him out of it!

11) If were Lucky will die of old age, As KTC was the only chance we had at a Nicotine Free life!
         -Hell, i dont know why any one would wanna dip again-

12) At Ease quitter, you made it to 100! now rinse and repeat here on roll with your brothers and breath in that successful Quitten with us
         24/7 - 365 for as long as your quit!

     As our group hits that 100 HOF keep this in mind brothers! its a honor quitting with everyone of you! we all are better for it, people in your life might not think its a big deal, they may even think were being dramatic and that quitting nicotine is easy. But from one addict to another that struggled alongside you, A big Bad Ass congratulations on a hard earned accomplishment. @macattack (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=19057) , @Jaltman14 (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=18982) , @WrestlingAddiction (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=19367) , @All1n (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=19029) , @railpilot (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=19131) , @USMC_Ham (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=217) , @Treewalker (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=19117) , @Ampete (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=19085) , @78craft (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1130) , @Wiks (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=9804) , @SouthernSaint (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=19089) , @Dlbrown80 (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=19124) , @Jeepmoxie (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=19021) , @Wolfe68 (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=19254) , @3-P (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=19059) , @Bsarno (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=674)

~Nick-99~LTBE
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: Keith0617 on April 08, 2021, 08:55:19 AM
Congrats on reaching the HOF. Stay loyal to your routine. We are always addicts and never cured.
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on April 08, 2021, 09:01:48 AM
“But as for you, be strong and do not give up, for your work will be rewarded.”2 Chronicles 15:7

     Thank you everyone for the support you guys/gals have given me and the April 21 thunderbirds as a whole, its a price we can never repay and will be engraved in our quit for eternity. Im not sure when i will write my HOF speech but as for now i will use this analogy.

     I find it easer to understand things if you make it relatable so intertwine alot of Quitting with my backpacking hobby. These First 100 days have been like prepping your back pack. Making sure you have proper amount of food, water, and shelter to survive is very important and just like if you pack to much weight your quit can get bogged down with "stuff". You are all packed up and now driving to your trail head, At times they can be hard to find and you have to turn around or go slow to locate them. much like quitting because although you put your foot on the Gas the Fog and chemical changes of your brain make you want to turn around and go back. Lots of stress and Excitement getting to that trail head or (100 days). But Every packer knows the true test is when you walk in on that uncertain trail leading to your path. That's when the true walk begins. You made it there! now all you have to do is walk your walk!

~Nick-Otine Free- 100 days of finding my trail! now im prepared to start my journey~ I know along that actual trail my HOF speech will come~ Cant thank each and everyone of you enough! 
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: Athan on April 08, 2021, 02:25:27 PM
Congratulations HoF brother! Expect great things from you. Mozzle. Great things! 'dance'
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: 69franx on April 08, 2021, 03:38:21 PM
Congrats sir on that sexy new third digit of yours. Keep up that badass quittin!
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: Thefranks5 on April 08, 2021, 03:54:40 PM
Congrats Nick. You sure have been a breath of fresh air to the site. Here is to many many more and I am honored to be part of your quit.
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: AppleJack on April 08, 2021, 05:35:42 PM
Killin’ it, bro!
Good on ya...
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: EXBEARHAG on April 08, 2021, 06:53:48 PM
Congrats Nick.  Keep it up!
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: worktowin on April 14, 2021, 04:34:18 PM
Congrats Nick. You sure have been a breath of fresh air to the site. Here is to many many more and I am honored to be part of your quit.
100% agree... Nick it is an honor to quit with you.
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: Stranger999 on April 14, 2021, 10:48:01 PM
Congrats Nick. You sure have been a breath of fresh air to the site. Here is to many many more and I am honored to be part of your quit.
100% agree... Nick it is an honor to quit with you.

Keep on trucking Nick!  It just keeps getting better as the milestones pass.  Keep @Bsarno (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=674) on the tracks too if you can.   ;D
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on April 15, 2021, 07:01:32 AM
Congrats Nick. You sure have been a breath of fresh air to the site. Here is to many many more and I am honored to be part of your quit.
100% agree... Nick it is an honor to quit with you.

Keep on trucking Nick!  It just keeps getting better as the milestones pass.  Keep @Bsarno (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=674) on the tracks too if you can.   ;D
Thanks Brochowskiiiis, Measn Alot guys and i appreciate any and all you crazy MOFOs that planted your stakes in my quit, you all are the real hero's and I'm quit because of encouraging folks such as yourselves!
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on April 15, 2021, 07:06:52 AM
     Well today i got my First Dentist appointment. excited and nervous to tell my hygienist that ive quit fucking my jaw to high hell with some poison. its been backed up for months because of covid so ive had this scheduled since day 10 of my quit i believe. This has always been a must since my first day of quit so i can start to let go of some of the stress of that Big C word. I would imagine its a important part of every quitters journey to get checked and get away not only with a clean mouth but a clear slate from the nic bitch!

~Nick 107 LTBE~
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: macattack on April 15, 2021, 09:06:08 AM
     Well today i got my First Dentist appointment. excited and nervous to tell my hygienist that ive quit fucking my jaw to high hell with some poison. its been backed up for months because of covid so ive had this scheduled since day 10 of my quit i believe. This has always been a must since my first day of quit so i can start to let go of some of the stress of that Big C word. I would imagine its a important part of every quitters journey to get checked and get away not only with a clean mouth but a clear slate from the nic bitch!

~Nick 107 LTBE~

Going to the dentist was a huge relief for me. I think my anxiety would have been 100x worse if I hadn't gone until after my HOF date. Good luck Nic! I'm sure it'll be a breath of fresh air
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on April 17, 2021, 11:42:10 PM
Hmmmm..... I’m frustrated........ this site offers so much to help so many. It’s a chance to start anew as a newbie . And a chance to solfiy your quit as a vet.  People call it drama I call it accountability ! Tell me where the line draws?  is there is not a line ! Dudes like Shane and Michael quit easy without reason make it  simple . WUPP and when they get a chance . They give back! If there is a chance to squash addict speak all quitters have the right to crush it! Don’t care if you been here 20 years! If I’m not here forever you should give me a damn good reason why 5 second every morn shit I shouldn’t. Not saying we all clash . But if you ain’t buying in why you here? It’s not drama it’s caring for another life .   ...... off my soap box ~nick
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on April 21, 2021, 08:49:50 AM
"Therefore, take no thought about tomorrow, for tomorrow will take thought about the things of itself. Sufficient to the day is the trouble thereof."  Matthew 6:34

I'm taking each day one day at a time, and building up my strength and endurance. It's crazy because it takes no time at all to lose everything you have and then so much time to gain it back.
~Michelle McCool~


      Programming your mind early to take it One Day At A Time  right after you toss your can is very important. If you are expecting rainbows and butterfly's you are a very naïve person. I spent 14 years putting a pinch in 24/7 365. And I new my world was about to go for a whirlwind the day I decided to quit. The body is made to fight change, its a way of protecting itself and is a defense mechanism. Quitting something your mind and body are Chemically dependent on is honestly one of the hardest things you will ever conquer, Par none! I've heard tons of people say quitting alcohol and alcohol withdraws are cake walks compared to kicking nicotine addiction. But like all things you have to put your all into it. You would go to the end of this world for your family, be it your parents, your wife, your kids. You would fight tooth and nail if they got kidnaped. Well your body is kidnapped and its time to fight tooth and nail for you! Taking back your Freedom starts with a simple day 1. My first 2 weeks i was so foggy brained its felt like i had a good beer buzz going on. The brain is trying to adjust to its new life style this is completely normal. I legit don't think i got more than 4 hours a sleep my first 40 days. toss and turn and sweat as my body tried to take hold of the new me. Around day 50 more healing came as my teeth felt like some one dumped quick Crete in my mouth and slammed it shut with a sledge hammer.  I had white patch's and spots on my gums as my Jaw fell in line with healing, realizing there was no longer a poison pinch there to tear it up. That all went on for about 75 days, No Sleep, night sweats, foggy dizzy spells, slow cognition (by brain processing power was on Mega L and needed a recharge lol) teeth Hurting so bad at times i had to just close my eyes and pray, unbearable headaches (man those headaches came all the time but were less and less as time went on but by far a challenge) Anxiety of hoping this was all worth it and worrying i may have cancer by how bad the suck sucked. And than the big 70s funk came in from 75 to 85 (the hardest most unpredictable part of quitting, was pure mental war fare as my brain was giving that last plea to stop the suffering. The self talk of my chemically confused brain telling me how Nicotine never gave up on you. One dip just to easy that tiny itch. Why am i quitting anyway i was not hurting anyone. Remember that juicy tasty squeezy ? why not treat yourself your a adult and can do what you want. life was so much simpler dipping you never worried than remember? Is this quit even worth it?, after all you always liked dipping and it calmed you. Will any one really care if i start dipping again, probably not.
     Indeed it was awful and painful, but taking it One Day At A Time got me past it, I needed the accountability so i would post roll and send lots of text to fellow quitters that new that same pain or were going through it with me. I am writing this because at day 113 that self talk is still going on, I'm just better prepared because of  KTC and my brotherhood. Hell yea i want a dip, but fuck that! BAM post roll by WUPP(WAKE UP PISS POST) which i also programmed in at day 1 ! sent my morning text out or they came to me reminding me there truly is a freedom from the can. I am also thinking it was nice taking my cave off the table bright and early this morn and all my focus will be on getting through 24hrs. It does not go away folks but we get better as time, rewiring, and healing goes on. I feel a sense of pride and accomplishment and its amazing not smacking your pocket or wondering where your tin is all the time. Im better and healthier and hopefully took cancer of the table as that's a reaper none of us want to see.

     I hope this gives you guests and even newer quitters than me, a idea of some of the hardship it takes to kill the can. Its soooo worth your freedom and just getting on here and posting your promise and keeping your promise every damn day is life changing. Praying you all come to terms with your fight for life and death and quit and those who are quit a reminder of that self talk and how easy it is to slip.

I quit with you all today! I promise you that. ~nick-LTBE~113 AKA as BARRY
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on April 27, 2021, 09:16:35 AM
~A prideful man~

     A little update on my uncle last week he was having heart issue so went to the hospital, they said the spot where they put in his heart pacer was infected and had pus so they had to remove it. Which means he has to wear some kind of vest to keep his heart in order. It also cause him to have a blood infection which requires IV antibiotics   3 times a day for a month which mean they have to stop his Chemo  treatments. they will see where he is at in healing after all that before they start chemo up again. He does only have 8 radiation treatments left which he is excited to be done with. Its sad seeing him in such a state, to battle throat cancer, heart issues , and a blood infection all at once is mind boggling. He has been quit during this entire process and from the outside looking in it may be "to little to late". Loss of hair, shallow eyes, paper thin skin, swollen legs, tube feed, not able to move about this is what dipping will do to you folks ! stop your gambling i can tell you first hand its not worth the pain i see on my once strong, hard head ,determined uncle. this wont happen to me goes out the window and is a stupid comment once the nic bitch does indeed happen to you. keep the prayers going
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on April 29, 2021, 08:31:41 AM
WILLIAM QUITSPEARE
(from Henry V, spoken by
Nicotine free)

Once more unto the Quit, dear friends, once more;
Or close the wall up with our Brothers dead.
In peace there's nothing so becomes a man
As modest stillness and humility:
But when the blast of crave blows in our ears,
Then imitate the action of the text;
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favour'd Quit;
Then lend the eye a terrible Cancer;
Let pry through the portage of the head
Like the brass cannon; let the brow o'erwhelm it
As fearfully as doth a galled bitch
Round and flavored his confounded can,
Swill'd with the wild and wasteful nicotine.
Now set the teeth and stretch the nostril wide,
Hold hard the breath and bend up every spirit
To his full height. On, on, you noblest Quitters.
Whose start is fet from fathers of Tobaccy-proof!
Companies that, like so many manufactures,
Have in these parts from morn till even fought
And sheathed their swords for lack of argument:
Dishonour not your group; now attest
That those whom you call'd grizzly did beget you.
Be copy now to men of quitter blood,
And teach them how to quit. And you, good yeoman,
Whose limbs were made to toss the can, show us here
The mettle of your pasture; let us swear
That you are worth your Quit; which I doubt not;
For there is none of you so mean and base,
That hath not noble quittin in your eyes.
I see you stand like greyhounds in the halls of KTC,
Straining upon the start. The quits afoot:
Follow your spirit, and upon this charge
Cry 'Quit for life, KTC, and My Thunderbirds!'
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on May 11, 2021, 10:26:35 AM
Five Techniques to Move Forward through Difficult quits
It can be said that life’s a journey. The only way to progress through this journey is to take steps forward. Throughout our lives we will encounter a number of twists and turns, perhaps even a few stoppages. Obstacles make life challenging and rewarding. It’s important to remember that even though we may find life difficult at times, we must continue moving forward.

Dipp and Nicotine can make moving forward seem impossible at times. Overcoming these challenges starts as simply putting one foot in front of the other. Learning small daily strategies can help dismantle the overwhelming cravings caused by quitting , and other similar triggers. This can be hard, especially when we find ourselves in the midst of a difficult crossroads, or a path that seemingly leads to nowhere. The only way we can find our way is to continue moving forward.

Five Tips to Continue Moving Forward
1. Don’t Give Up
     Firstly, and perhaps most importantly – don’t give up! Just because an obstacle emerges, no matter what size, does not mean that the journey is over. once you quit, it is never quite the same. Your relationships,  job, and your life,  are better and you are in charge of your choices. Giving up may enter your mind, but find some way to keep going, even if you have to do things a little differently like talking to strangers on the internet. So when the going gets tough, don’t be afraid to text a brother, or, to find a way to overcome the funk obstructing your way. The journey continues from there.

2. Stay Positive
     It may seem a bit cliche to say that positivity is key, but the truth is often worth repeating. A positive mindset can make all the difference when it comes to progressing through one’s life and it’s challenges. It is also important to remember that the world is not our enemy. True, we will all face our own shares of ups and downs, but when we are confronted by the “Craves”, we must remember that they don’t happen because the universe hates us or that we are the victims of some sort of terrible cosmic vendetta. Rather, by adopting the perception that the world around us exists to do us good, we can learn to see the opportunities that surround us, instead of just focusing on the obstacles. In this way, we open ourselves up to the possibility to flourish, and learn not to accept failure.

3. Take Things One Day at a Time
     A simple yet effective piece of advice is also to take things one day – or one step – at a time. Trying to tackle more than one day head on all at once is the easiest way to get overwhelmed and, consequently, want to just give up. Instead, it helps to learn to tackle things one at a time. For example, if we’re having problems with your quit, worrying when the suck is going to go away can seem not only difficult but outright impossible, which can lead us to feeling defeated before we even try. But by approaching our Quits one step at a time, we can improve our resolve by strengthening the parts that comprise it. To begin with, we might start by improving WUPP, then maybe we text more vets or post in other groups. One-by-one we take on the things that were causing us to feel triggered and stressed, and by doing so we not only improve the health of others quit, but our own personal quit as well. We don’t need to do everything at once in order to see progress. In fact, we may find that it is easier to move forward when we are taking steps, rather than large, uncoordinated leaps.

4. Go at Your Own Pace
     Quit is not a race, therefore there is no need to rush progress. You may have been beaten down, but you are not broken. Even if you have dipped for years and lived through a life-altering trauma, if you still have a beating heart and air in your lungs, you can quit. The key is doing what we can, when we can, and taking breaks when we need to (burn out is real). These periods of rest can be what we need in order to get the energy to continue forward. However, we must remember that taking breaks should not be the same thing as stopping entirely. In other words, if we’re trying to get help our quit and decide to have a cheat day by not posting roll, we shouldn’t allow that day to become everyday, otherwise it defeats the purpose. We must continue on our quit journey, but there is nothing wrong with taking time every now and then to collect ourselves and refocus on our quits.

5. Don’t Be Afraid of Disappointment
     Unfortunately, disappointment as natural to life as is breathing. People from all walks of life experience disappointment, regardless of who they are. That being said, disappointments, while admittedly discouraging, should never stop us from moving forward in our quits. There is nothing wrong with feeling disappointed from time-to-time, but disappointment is not an excuse to go back to dipping and destroying our body's again, as has always been said 1 problem + nicotine= 2 problems. No matter what, we must keep going. After all, we have a lot to see and do before our journeys end. So why let cancer fuck that up?

Nick~133~ ran into this blog and revised most of it to fit my quit.
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on May 21, 2021, 11:08:19 AM
~ A Prideful Man ~

Update: My uncles chest is finally healed up and the infectious Disease doctor cleared him to have have his defibrillator put back in. He is damn happy to get that vest off him. He will also start his Chemo back up next Monday and is almost completely done with Radiation treatments, which has him in high spirits for the first time since his battle has began. He has lost a lot of weight because of the toll all this takes on your body and does not have much a Appetit, the doctors want him eating more so that is a goal he will be working on. Radiation seems to have done its job, but to what toll we will find out. The way my uncle described it was " Radiation burns you from the inside out so i can only handle so much of that" and Chemo will hopefully kill the rest. All though he still looks aweful its good to see at least a little light in his eye.
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Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on June 04, 2021, 08:34:58 AM
     157 days of battle. days 150-157 have been filled with craving the itch and a kinda hazy dream of what it was back when i dipped. Even more impressive that the can is always knocking on your door no matter how many bolts locks you have on it. Far better off than i was, but even this far along my brain is still trying to figure out why i quit and talk to that dependent side.  "I am the master of my fate I am the captain of my soul?"

~Nick-157~LTBE
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: Thefranks5 on June 04, 2021, 08:14:51 PM
     157 days of battle. days 150-157 have been filled with craving the itch and a kinda hazy dream of what it was back when i dipped. Even more impressive that the can is always knocking on your door no matter how many bolts locks you have on it. Far better off than i was, but even this far along my brain is still trying to figure out why i quit and talk to that dependent side.  "I am the master of my fate I am the captain of my soul?"


~Nick-157~LTBE
Nick, you and I have 300 days between us and we are fighting that same demon. After 457 days I still fight the crave and urge which is actually sad when you think about it. I have GI issues thanks to years of abuse and my brain daily tells me that I should go back to dipping as you didn’t have this issue when you did. I want to sometimes smack myself for letting my brain cause more issues then I need but then again I am a addict. I also remember a vet saying before I go back to the can that I should smash my cajonies in drawer then I was to call him and tell him why I smashed my cajonies in a drawer. That has been one of many reasons why I refuse to allow that demon to win. Stay blogging it out my friend and many will follow. If not maybe they should smash their cajonies in a drawer every time before they take a dip, lol. 
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: stillbrewing on June 04, 2021, 08:59:32 PM
     157 days of battle. days 150-157 have been filled with craving the itch and a kinda hazy dream of what it was back when i dipped. Even more impressive that the can is always knocking on your door no matter how many bolts locks you have on it. Far better off than i was, but even this far along my brain is still trying to figure out why i quit and talk to that dependent side.  "I am the master of my fate I am the captain of my soul?"


~Nick-157~LTBE
Nick, you and I have 300 days between us and we are fighting that same demon. After 457 days I still fight the crave and urge which is actually sad when you think about it. I have GI issues thanks to years of abuse and my brain daily tells me that I should go back to dipping as you didn’t have this issue when you did. I want to sometimes smack myself for letting my brain cause more issues then I need but then again I am a addict. I also remember a vet saying before I go back to the can that I should smash my cajonies in drawer then I was to call him and tell him why I smashed my cajonies in a drawer. That has been one of many reasons why I refuse to allow that demon to win. Stay blogging it out my friend and many will follow. If not maybe they should smash their cajonies in a drawer every time before they take a dip, lol.
Dammit...better smash those gonads before packing that lipper or put my # on speed dial. 
Put your Quit in perspective...You dipped for 30+ years.  That's 30 years of learned behavior
of using nicotine to adapt to every up and down in your life.  A dip for every victory and two
times that for every stressful thing in your that challenged you.  You cannot erase that shit
with 457 days quit.  You, like me sir, are infants in our quits.  We may not be plagued by craves
on a daily basis, but it still haunts.  WE WILL DO THIS SHIT ODAAT! 
..See you tomorrow on roll my friend.
~SB
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: Keith0617 on June 04, 2021, 10:34:12 PM
     157 days of battle. days 150-157 have been filled with craving the itch and a kinda hazy dream of what it was back when i dipped. Even more impressive that the can is always knocking on your door no matter how many bolts locks you have on it. Far better off than i was, but even this far along my brain is still trying to figure out why i quit and talk to that dependent side.  "I am the master of my fate I am the captain of my soul?"


~Nick-157~LTBE
Nick, you and I have 300 days between us and we are fighting that same demon. After 457 days I still fight the crave and urge which is actually sad when you think about it. I have GI issues thanks to years of abuse and my brain daily tells me that I should go back to dipping as you didn’t have this issue when you did. I want to sometimes smack myself for letting my brain cause more issues then I need but then again I am a addict. I also remember a vet saying before I go back to the can that I should smash my cajonies in drawer then I was to call him and tell him why I smashed my cajonies in a drawer. That has been one of many reasons why I refuse to allow that demon to win. Stay blogging it out my friend and many will follow. If not maybe they should smash their cajonies in a drawer every time before they take a dip, lol.
Dammit...better smash those gonads before packing that lipper or put my # on speed dial. 
Put your Quit in perspective...You dipped for 30+ years.  That's 30 years of learned behavior
of using nicotine to adapt to every up and down in your life.  A dip for every victory and two
times that for every stressful thing in your that challenged you.  You cannot erase that shit
with 457 days quit.  You, like me sir, are infants in our quits.  We may not be plagued by craves
on a daily basis, but it still haunts.  WE WILL DO THIS SHIT ODAAT! 
..See you tomorrow on roll my friend.
~SB
It’s gets so much better. I dipped for nearly 38 years. I never thought I would make it this far until I learned I could quit one day at a time. Once you understand we are addicts you understand the cravings better. Just remember you have a support system here waiting to help. Don’t try to do this alone. Use your resources and let the data add up.
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: Stranger999 on June 04, 2021, 10:42:50 PM
     157 days of battle. days 150-157 have been filled with craving the itch and a kinda hazy dream of what it was back when i dipped. Even more impressive that the can is always knocking on your door no matter how many bolts locks you have on it. Far better off than i was, but even this far along my brain is still trying to figure out why i quit and talk to that dependent side.  "I am the master of my fate I am the captain of my soul?"


~Nick-157~LTBE
Nick, you and I have 300 days between us and we are fighting that same demon. After 457 days I still fight the crave and urge which is actually sad when you think about it. I have GI issues thanks to years of abuse and my brain daily tells me that I should go back to dipping as you didn’t have this issue when you did. I want to sometimes smack myself for letting my brain cause more issues then I need but then again I am a addict. I also remember a vet saying before I go back to the can that I should smash my cajonies in drawer then I was to call him and tell him why I smashed my cajonies in a drawer. That has been one of many reasons why I refuse to allow that demon to win. Stay blogging it out my friend and many will follow. If not maybe they should smash their cajonies in a drawer every time before they take a dip, lol.
Dammit...better smash those gonads before packing that lipper or put my # on speed dial. 
Put your Quit in perspective...You dipped for 30+ years.  That's 30 years of learned behavior
of using nicotine to adapt to every up and down in your life.  A dip for every victory and two
times that for every stressful thing in your that challenged you.  You cannot erase that shit
with 457 days quit.  You, like me sir, are infants in our quits.  We may not be plagued by craves
on a daily basis, but it still haunts.  WE WILL DO THIS SHIT ODAAT! 
..See you tomorrow on roll my friend.
~SB
It’s gets so much better. I dipped for nearly 38 years. I never thought I would make it this far until I learned I could quit one day at a time. Once you understand we are addicts you understand the cravings better. Just remember you have a support system here waiting to help. Don’t try to do this alone. Use your resources and let the data add up.

35 years of nicotine use for me.  2,100 days free today and I still have occasional dip dreams.  Healing takes a long time.  Posting a promise and keeping that promise takes 24 hours.  I'm proud to quit with you all today.
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: Thefranks5 on June 05, 2021, 07:32:53 AM
     157 days of battle. days 150-157 have been filled with craving the itch and a kinda hazy dream of what it was back when i dipped. Even more impressive that the can is always knocking on your door no matter how many bolts locks you have on it. Far better off than i was, but even this far along my brain is still trying to figure out why i quit and talk to that dependent side.  "I am the master of my fate I am the captain of my soul?"


~Nick-157~LTBE
Nick, you and I have 300 days between us and we are fighting that same demon. After 457 days I still fight the crave and urge which is actually sad when you think about it. I have GI issues thanks to years of abuse and my brain daily tells me that I should go back to dipping as you didn’t have this issue when you did. I want to sometimes smack myself for letting my brain cause more issues then I need but then again I am a addict. I also remember a vet saying before I go back to the can that I should smash my cajonies in drawer then I was to call him and tell him why I smashed my cajonies in a drawer. That has been one of many reasons why I refuse to allow that demon to win. Stay blogging it out my friend and many will follow. If not maybe they should smash their cajonies in a drawer every time before they take a dip, lol.
Dammit...better smash those gonads before packing that lipper or put my # on speed dial. 
Put your Quit in perspective...You dipped for 30+ years.  That's 30 years of learned behavior
of using nicotine to adapt to every up and down in your life.  A dip for every victory and two
times that for every stressful thing in your that challenged you.  You cannot erase that shit
with 457 days quit.  You, like me sir, are infants in our quits.  We may not be plagued by craves
on a daily basis, but it still haunts.  WE WILL DO THIS SHIT ODAAT! 
..See you tomorrow on roll my friend.
~SB
It’s gets so much better. I dipped for nearly 38 years. I never thought I would make it this far until I learned I could quit one day at a time. Once you understand we are addicts you understand the cravings better. Just remember you have a support system here waiting to help. Don’t try to do this alone. Use your resources and let the data add up.

35 years of nicotine use for me.  2,100 days free today and I still have occasional dip dreams.  Healing takes a long time.  Posting a promise and keeping that promise takes 24 hours.  I'm proud to quit with you all today.
@nick-Otine Free (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=19005) Dude we have such an awesome support group here. These vets that responded are truly awesome and it is such an honor to have them on our side. That is why we need to keep blogging it out for others. These vets lift us up so that we can lift others. Like the song says “One day at a time sweet Jesus” and match that with our morning promise then we have the strength to win the day.
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on June 05, 2021, 10:11:23 AM
     157 days of battle. days 150-157 have been filled with craving the itch and a kinda hazy dream of what it was back when i dipped. Even more impressive that the can is always knocking on your door no matter how many bolts locks you have on it. Far better off than i was, but even this far along my brain is still trying to figure out why i quit and talk to that dependent side.  "I am the master of my fate I am the captain of my soul?"


~Nick-157~LTBE
Nick, you and I have 300 days between us and we are fighting that same demon. After 457 days I still fight the crave and urge which is actually sad when you think about it. I have GI issues thanks to years of abuse and my brain daily tells me that I should go back to dipping as you didn’t have this issue when you did. I want to sometimes smack myself for letting my brain cause more issues then I need but then again I am a addict. I also remember a vet saying before I go back to the can that I should smash my cajonies in drawer then I was to call him and tell him why I smashed my cajonies in a drawer. That has been one of many reasons why I refuse to allow that demon to win. Stay blogging it out my friend and many will follow. If not maybe they should smash their cajonies in a drawer every time before they take a dip, lol.
Dammit...better smash those gonads before packing that lipper or put my # on speed dial. 
Put your Quit in perspective...You dipped for 30+ years.  That's 30 years of learned behavior
of using nicotine to adapt to every up and down in your life.  A dip for every victory and two
times that for every stressful thing in your that challenged you.  You cannot erase that shit
with 457 days quit.  You, like me sir, are infants in our quits.  We may not be plagued by craves
on a daily basis, but it still haunts.  WE WILL DO THIS SHIT ODAAT! 
..See you tomorrow on roll my friend.
~SB
It’s gets so much better. I dipped for nearly 38 years. I never thought I would make it this far until I learned I could quit one day at a time. Once you understand we are addicts you understand the cravings better. Just remember you have a support system here waiting to help. Don’t try to do this alone. Use your resources and let the data add up.

35 years of nicotine use for me.  2,100 days free today and I still have occasional dip dreams.  Healing takes a long time.  Posting a promise and keeping that promise takes 24 hours.  I'm proud to quit with you all today.
@nick-Otine Free (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=19005) Dude we have such an awesome support group here. These vets that responded are truly awesome and it is such an honor to have them on our side. That is why we need to keep blogging it out for others. These vets lift us up so that we can lift others. Like the song says “One day at a time sweet Jesus” and match that with our morning promise then we have the strength to win the day.
thanks Doug ! I agree it’s what makes this place work ! I’m lucky to be apart of it even luckier to be dip free . It’s easy relatable because we all have been there and no that feeling stay fresh brothers and thanks guys -nick
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: Stranger999 on June 05, 2021, 11:47:07 PM
     157 days of battle. days 150-157 have been filled with craving the itch and a kinda hazy dream of what it was back when i dipped. Even more impressive that the can is always knocking on your door no matter how many bolts locks you have on it. Far better off than i was, but even this far along my brain is still trying to figure out why i quit and talk to that dependent side.  "I am the master of my fate I am the captain of my soul?"


~Nick-157~LTBE
Nick, you and I have 300 days between us and we are fighting that same demon. After 457 days I still fight the crave and urge which is actually sad when you think about it. I have GI issues thanks to years of abuse and my brain daily tells me that I should go back to dipping as you didn’t have this issue when you did. I want to sometimes smack myself for letting my brain cause more issues then I need but then again I am a addict. I also remember a vet saying before I go back to the can that I should smash my cajonies in drawer then I was to call him and tell him why I smashed my cajonies in a drawer. That has been one of many reasons why I refuse to allow that demon to win. Stay blogging it out my friend and many will follow. If not maybe they should smash their cajonies in a drawer every time before they take a dip, lol.
Dammit...better smash those gonads before packing that lipper or put my # on speed dial. 
Put your Quit in perspective...You dipped for 30+ years.  That's 30 years of learned behavior
of using nicotine to adapt to every up and down in your life.  A dip for every victory and two
times that for every stressful thing in your that challenged you.  You cannot erase that shit
with 457 days quit.  You, like me sir, are infants in our quits.  We may not be plagued by craves
on a daily basis, but it still haunts.  WE WILL DO THIS SHIT ODAAT! 
..See you tomorrow on roll my friend.
~SB
It’s gets so much better. I dipped for nearly 38 years. I never thought I would make it this far until I learned I could quit one day at a time. Once you understand we are addicts you understand the cravings better. Just remember you have a support system here waiting to help. Don’t try to do this alone. Use your resources and let the data add up.

35 years of nicotine use for me.  2,100 days free today and I still have occasional dip dreams.  Healing takes a long time.  Posting a promise and keeping that promise takes 24 hours.  I'm proud to quit with you all today.
@nick-Otine Free (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=19005) Dude we have such an awesome support group here. These vets that responded are truly awesome and it is such an honor to have them on our side. That is why we need to keep blogging it out for others. These vets lift us up so that we can lift others. Like the song says “One day at a time sweet Jesus” and match that with our morning promise then we have the strength to win the day.
thanks Doug ! I agree it’s what makes this place work ! I’m lucky to be apart of it even luckier to be dip free . It’s easy relatable because we all have been there and no that feeling stay fresh brothers and thanks guys -nick

There is no luck involved in being dip free. You are doing that every damn day by yourself.  8)
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on June 28, 2021, 11:19:23 AM
~ A Prideful Man ~

     update on the last month. Good new my uncle is in remission the cant see the cancer anymore but his level show there may be a tiny bit left. start of june he was suppose to start his second round of chemo but his numbers were not good enough. He did not tolerate first round well enough and wanted to wait. He also visted the Cardiologist because he want that vest off (his pacer incision was infected) but the dr wants to wait until he is done with all chemo and heals more. his risk of reinfection is to high right now and if it get infected again he will have to wait until the feed port comes out which would be a few years of wearing the vest. He had a Echo done because of the pain and breathlessness he has been having. the Radiation  dr she would send orders to have the feeding tube removed  if he promised he would keep eating. he would rather get rid of the vest but baby steps. He is sick of the feeding tube and has threaten to pull the damn thing out any way.

     as of end of june (last friday) he had 2 weeks of really low platelets counts, but are finally rebounding. the count needs to be 100 to start chemo back up. he was at 50 but is now at 61. dr want to look at it again in another week. and wait to see if the chemo made the cancer stay away. during all this he now has to have testing done for bone marrow issues which is a side effect from the chemo. Yesterday he had a count of 132 so he will start his second round of chemo today. they have to lower the does from the original amount hoping he will bounce back faster and he can handle another treatment in three week.

   so a mix of good new and bad news. he has high hopes now that he has this beat. Hoping the chemo and radiation don't take him out now. he is happy to have the feeding tube removed. its good to see him smile for once.

Stay quit friends I've seen what the Nic demon has done to my uncle its not pleasant in the least.

Nick-181 LTBE
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: stillbrewing on June 28, 2021, 04:17:29 PM
~ A Prideful Man ~

     update on the last month. Good new my uncle is in remission the cant see the cancer anymore but his level show there may be a tiny bit left. start of june he was suppose to start his second round of chemo but his numbers were not good enough. He did not tolerate first round well enough and wanted to wait. He also visted the Cardiologist because he want that vest off (his pacer incision was infected) but the dr wants to wait until he is done with all chemo and heals more. his risk of reinfection is to high right now and if it get infected again he will have to wait until the feed port comes out which would be a few years of wearing the vest. He had a Echo done because of the pain and breathlessness he has been having. the Radiation  dr she would send orders to have the feeding tube removed  if he promised he would keep eating. he would rather get rid of the vest but baby steps. He is sick of the feeding tube and has threaten to pull the damn thing out any way.

     as of end of june (last friday) he had 2 weeks of really low platelets counts, but are finally rebounding. the count needs to be 100 to start chemo back up. he was at 50 but is now at 61. dr want to look at it again in another week. and wait to see if the chemo made the cancer stay away. during all this he now has to have testing done for bone marrow issues which is a side effect from the chemo. Yesterday he had a count of 132 so he will start his second round of chemo today. they have to lower the does from the original amount hoping he will bounce back faster and he can handle another treatment in three week.

   so a mix of good new and bad news. he has high hopes now that he has this beat. Hoping the chemo and radiation don't take him out now. he is happy to have the feeding tube removed. its good to see him smile for once.

Stay quit friends I've seen what the Nic demon has done to my uncle its not pleasant in the least.

Nick-181 LTBE
He needs to leave the G-Tube in until he is farther along in his treatment.  If he has complications from the radiation like naro-esophageal burns, he will stop eating (or can't eat) and the tube will be put back in.  Your Uncle is kicking ass...Prayers up!
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on June 29, 2021, 08:52:05 AM
23 "Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for human masters, 24 since you know that you will receive an inheritance from the Lord as a reward. It is the Lord Christ you are serving." Colossians 3:23-24


       6 months quit today, For me this was my initial goal coming onto this site. I didn't know 100 days was a thing at the time, so this milestone means twice as much to me. It been a journey. Honestly i thought the day i made it to 6 months i would be set to go. before i quit i had this false idea that after a couple months it would be a cake walk and at 6 months i would not ever know i had dipped. The Facts are quiet the opposite. I have good and bad days walking this path. A nice relaxing walk after my HOF where i felt so good and lately a slumber. for about 15+ days leading up to today My jaw and teeth have hurt like i just quit. I feel my agitation and frustration with my quit build as i bite on my cheek wishing i had a dip. I made the choice on my HOF day that i would quit Fake dip as well. so its been 82 days since i have had any sort of fixation outside of bubble gum. Not the smartest move but i like to push my limits and challenge myself. So today i stand at 6 months realizing i need this site its brotherhood and most importantly its accountability almost more than i needed it at day 30. The internal battle of pushing the nic demon down daily is exhausting, but rewarding the next day waking up still nicotine free. dont be fooled early on in your quit or at your 100 day HOF because it still can suck a half year in. 14 years of a can a day habit can not be erased so quickly and i guess i didnt understand that. now i do and im so thankful for all my support here and hope my support for some of you has aided in your quit.

also ran into this quote for my texting today " 6 months of hardcore focus and alignment can put you 5 years ahead in life. Don't underestimate the power of consistency and desire. You have what it takes to become the best that you can be. Don't ever doubt yourself. Harness your power. Exceed your expectations."

If your a guest know all of our paths are not the same but are very similar. Its possible to kick this shitty habit but you gotta want it because that Nic demon wants you more alot of times. for the newer quitter keep the course! Its worth it I had a month plus of just amazing no worries, no craving , freedom from the can. they come and go. fewer and far in-between. 70s funk 200 funk dont matter what it throws at me the brothers and sisters here will make sure im on roll and quit. Join your quit group or if you did begin branching out and helping others.

Nick-182-~ LTBE~ Let Today Be Enough. yesterday is long gone, tomorrow may never come but today. today is enough!
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on July 26, 2021, 09:10:23 AM
Day 209

     It is funny how long nicotine try's to hang on. I felt pretty bad from day 180 to about day 200. Craving, jaw/gum itch, irritation, annoyed. All the other symptoms  have passed away but those. Even conducting June 21 i can honestly say i walked to the ledge every damn day. Deciding if my quit was worth it, My brain still trying to figure out why i even started this campaign, O how easy it would be to just stop and buy a can. looking out wondering if just one fix would help with the turmoil swirling in my mind. I have done this every day since my own HOF. And i can honestly say its Exhausting. Every damn day i walk to that ledge and weigh my options. And than my biggest test came at me. Divorce, now i don't want to dive to much into it but that type of stress, emotional roller-coaster, and loss had me over that ledge holding on with one hand. Mind telling my i dont have a wife to nag me any more, you could just go back and no one will care, Was/is all this effort worth it? But here i am posting another day and here is why folks.

1) I have been WUPPing so long its second nature to me now, its soooo easy.
2) when the Nicotine bitch talks, my name on roll early reminds it that i promised you all i would make it for today.
3) A special pieace of info i read here early on my quit called "choose your Harder" I've told myself this everyday since i read it, and even more so through my divorce.
4) I built my Quit wall extremely high with newbies, half dangle quitters, and vets alike that not only count on my text message but i theirs. (By far the best way to back away from that ledge is through your quit brothers and sisters)
5) The Accountability and effort i put in had people reaching out to me checking to see if i was still solid because i was only posting roll in my group.

Its hard  being a quitter, but is it worth it? HELL YES! Its worth everything! The freedom of not tracking down a can, The free landscape your home/car/job has without nasty ass spitters. The knowing that im actively  trying to take care of my health for myself and for my family. that they wont have to see me go through Chemo and radiation as i have watch my Uncle. We work at this thing Every Damn Day and i would not have it any other way. Divorce, Family deaths, favorite pet died they are just prefect opportunity's  for that nic bitch thats been waiting to open the door. Today i stand at that ledge again and weigh my options mentally, and again i am choosing freedom for today.Be better , Dip does not define you any more so toss it the finger and keep pushing.

Nick- LTBE





Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: oldschool on July 26, 2021, 01:45:48 PM
Day 209

     It is funny how long nicotine try's to hang on. I felt pretty bad from day 180 to about day 200. Craving, jaw/gum itch, irritation, annoyed. All the other symptoms  have passed away but those. Even conducting June 21 i can honestly say i walked to the ledge every damn day. Deciding if my quit was worth it, My brain still trying to figure out why i even started this campaign, O how easy it would be to just stop and buy a can. looking out wondering if just one fix would help with the turmoil swirling in my mind. I have done this every day since my own HOF. And i can honestly say its Exhausting. Every damn day i walk to that ledge and weigh my options. And than my biggest test came at me. Divorce, now i don't want to dive to much into it but that type of stress, emotional roller-coaster, and loss had me over that ledge holding on with one hand. Mind telling my i dont have a wife to nag me any more, you could just go back and no one will care, Was/is all this effort worth it? But here i am posting another day and here is why folks.

1) I have been WUPPing so long its second nature to me now, its soooo easy.
2) when the Nicotine bitch talks, my name on roll early reminds it that i promised you all i would make it for today.
3) A special pieace of info i read here early on my quit called "choose your Harder" I've told myself this everyday since i read it, and even more so through my divorce.
4) I built my Quit wall extremely high with newbies, half dangle quitters, and vets alike that not only count on my text message but i theirs. (By far the best way to back away from that ledge is through your quit brothers and sisters)
5) The Accountability and effort i put in had people reaching out to me checking to see if i was still solid because i was only posting roll in my group.

Its hard  being a quitter, but is it worth it? HELL YES! Its worth everything! The freedom of not tracking down a can, The free landscape your home/car/job has without nasty ass spitters. The knowing that im actively  trying to take care of my health for myself and for my family. that they wont have to see me go through Chemo and radiation as i have watch my Uncle. We work at this thing Every Damn Day and i would not have it any other way. Divorce, Family deaths, favorite pet died they are just prefect opportunity's  for that nic bitch thats been waiting to open the door. Today i stand at that ledge again and weigh my options mentally, and again i am choosing freedom for today.Be better , Dip does not define you any more so toss it the finger and keep pushing.

Nick- LTBE
Nick, thanks for sharing!

You are correct quitting is not easy, and the daily struggle can be overwhelming.  Many of us want the easy button:  "Hey, I quit and nicotine is no longer in my system.  Why do I still have these withdrawal symptoms?"  "Why can't I just go back to feeling normal?"  "Can't I just have one good day without thinking about a dip?"  "Why did I dream about having a dip?"  "Will these craves ever go away?"

It does get better.  For some they stop thinking about it and can go on without much issue.  For others (like me) the healing process has been slow and at times painful.  Many people do not realize that there will be funks and quit related withdrawal symptoms for awhile.  The good news is over time these symptoms become less noticeable with the duration being longer in between events.  It does take time to heal.  Some of us also learn that we were using nicotine to cover up an issue like anxiety for instance (me!).  It does get better.

Make your promise everyday.  Keep your word.  Create relationships and build a strong quit circle.  Hold people accountable to the process.  Freedom for nicotine is worth the small amount of effort.
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: Keith0617 on July 27, 2021, 10:33:51 AM
Day 209

     It is funny how long nicotine try's to hang on. I felt pretty bad from day 180 to about day 200. Craving, jaw/gum itch, irritation, annoyed. All the other symptoms  have passed away but those. Even conducting June 21 i can honestly say i walked to the ledge every damn day. Deciding if my quit was worth it, My brain still trying to figure out why i even started this campaign, O how easy it would be to just stop and buy a can. looking out wondering if just one fix would help with the turmoil swirling in my mind. I have done this every day since my own HOF. And i can honestly say its Exhausting. Every damn day i walk to that ledge and weigh my options. And than my biggest test came at me. Divorce, now i don't want to dive to much into it but that type of stress, emotional roller-coaster, and loss had me over that ledge holding on with one hand. Mind telling my i dont have a wife to nag me any more, you could just go back and no one will care, Was/is all this effort worth it? But here i am posting another day and here is why folks.

1) I have been WUPPing so long its second nature to me now, its soooo easy.
2) when the Nicotine bitch talks, my name on roll early reminds it that i promised you all i would make it for today.
3) A special pieace of info i read here early on my quit called "choose your Harder" I've told myself this everyday since i read it, and even more so through my divorce.
4) I built my Quit wall extremely high with newbies, half dangle quitters, and vets alike that not only count on my text message but i theirs. (By far the best way to back away from that ledge is through your quit brothers and sisters)
5) The Accountability and effort i put in had people reaching out to me checking to see if i was still solid because i was only posting roll in my group.

Its hard  being a quitter, but is it worth it? HELL YES! Its worth everything! The freedom of not tracking down a can, The free landscape your home/car/job has without nasty ass spitters. The knowing that im actively  trying to take care of my health for myself and for my family. that they wont have to see me go through Chemo and radiation as i have watch my Uncle. We work at this thing Every Damn Day and i would not have it any other way. Divorce, Family deaths, favorite pet died they are just prefect opportunity's  for that nic bitch thats been waiting to open the door. Today i stand at that ledge again and weigh my options mentally, and again i am choosing freedom for today.Be better , Dip does not define you any more so toss it the finger and keep pushing.

Nick- LTBE
Nick, thanks for sharing!

You are correct quitting is not easy, and the daily struggle can be overwhelming.  Many of us want the easy button:  "Hey, I quit and nicotine is no longer in my system.  Why do I still have these withdrawal symptoms?"  "Why can't I just go back to feeling normal?"  "Can't I just have one good day without thinking about a dip?"  "Why did I dream about having a dip?"  "Will these craves ever go away?"

It does get better.  For some they stop thinking about it and can go on without much issue.  For others (like me) the healing process has been slow and at times painful.  Many people do not realize that there will be funks and quit related withdrawal symptoms for awhile.  The good news is over time these symptoms become less noticeable with the duration being longer in between events.  It does take time to heal.  Some of us also learn that we were using nicotine to cover up an issue like anxiety for instance (me!).  It does get better.

Make your promise everyday.  Keep your word.  Create relationships and build a strong quit circle.  Hold people accountable to the process.  Freedom for nicotine is worth the small amount of effort.
@nick-Otine Free (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=19005) you are smart to have established a routine that protects your quit. By waking up, pissing, and posting roll, it doesn’t matter how busy the day gets - your quit is protected. The rest is easy - keep your promise. Wish every quitter would understand this.
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: bubblehed668 on July 27, 2021, 11:03:59 AM
Day 209

     It is funny how long nicotine try's to hang on. I felt pretty bad from day 180 to about day 200. Craving, jaw/gum itch, irritation, annoyed. All the other symptoms  have passed away but those. Even conducting June 21 i can honestly say i walked to the ledge every damn day. Deciding if my quit was worth it, My brain still trying to figure out why i even started this campaign, O how easy it would be to just stop and buy a can. looking out wondering if just one fix would help with the turmoil swirling in my mind. I have done this every day since my own HOF. And i can honestly say its Exhausting. Every damn day i walk to that ledge and weigh my options. And than my biggest test came at me. Divorce, now i don't want to dive to much into it but that type of stress, emotional roller-coaster, and loss had me over that ledge holding on with one hand. Mind telling my i dont have a wife to nag me any more, you could just go back and no one will care, Was/is all this effort worth it? But here i am posting another day and here is why folks.

1) I have been WUPPing so long its second nature to me now, its soooo easy.
2) when the Nicotine bitch talks, my name on roll early reminds it that i promised you all i would make it for today.
3) A special pieace of info i read here early on my quit called "choose your Harder" I've told myself this everyday since i read it, and even more so through my divorce.
4) I built my Quit wall extremely high with newbies, half dangle quitters, and vets alike that not only count on my text message but i theirs. (By far the best way to back away from that ledge is through your quit brothers and sisters)
5) The Accountability and effort i put in had people reaching out to me checking to see if i was still solid because i was only posting roll in my group.

Its hard  being a quitter, but is it worth it? HELL YES! Its worth everything! The freedom of not tracking down a can, The free landscape your home/car/job has without nasty ass spitters. The knowing that im actively  trying to take care of my health for myself and for my family. that they wont have to see me go through Chemo and radiation as i have watch my Uncle. We work at this thing Every Damn Day and i would not have it any other way. Divorce, Family deaths, favorite pet died they are just prefect opportunity's  for that nic bitch thats been waiting to open the door. Today i stand at that ledge again and weigh my options mentally, and again i am choosing freedom for today.Be better , Dip does not define you any more so toss it the finger and keep pushing.

Nick- LTBE
Nick, thanks for sharing!

You are correct quitting is not easy, and the daily struggle can be overwhelming.  Many of us want the easy button:  "Hey, I quit and nicotine is no longer in my system.  Why do I still have these withdrawal symptoms?"  "Why can't I just go back to feeling normal?"  "Can't I just have one good day without thinking about a dip?"  "Why did I dream about having a dip?"  "Will these craves ever go away?"

It does get better.  For some they stop thinking about it and can go on without much issue.  For others (like me) the healing process has been slow and at times painful.  Many people do not realize that there will be funks and quit related withdrawal symptoms for awhile.  The good news is over time these symptoms become less noticeable with the duration being longer in between events.  It does take time to heal.  Some of us also learn that we were using nicotine to cover up an issue like anxiety for instance (me!).  It does get better.

Make your promise everyday.  Keep your word.  Create relationships and build a strong quit circle.  Hold people accountable to the process.  Freedom for nicotine is worth the small amount of effort.
@nick-Otine Free (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=19005) you are smart to have established a routine that protects your quit. By waking up, pissing, and posting roll, it doesn’t matter how busy the day gets - your quit is protected. The rest is easy - keep your promise. Wish every quitter would understand this.
This is one those thoughts that should be posted in new quit groups. These little snippets from quitters who have the nic bitch by the balls and kicking her ass daily by posting their promise.
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: Thefranks5 on July 27, 2021, 07:44:44 PM
Day 209

     It is funny how long nicotine try's to hang on. I felt pretty bad from day 180 to about day 200. Craving, jaw/gum itch, irritation, annoyed. All the other symptoms  have passed away but those. Even conducting June 21 i can honestly say i walked to the ledge every damn day. Deciding if my quit was worth it, My brain still trying to figure out why i even started this campaign, O how easy it would be to just stop and buy a can. looking out wondering if just one fix would help with the turmoil swirling in my mind. I have done this every day since my own HOF. And i can honestly say its Exhausting. Every damn day i walk to that ledge and weigh my options. And than my biggest test came at me. Divorce, now i don't want to dive to much into it but that type of stress, emotional roller-coaster, and loss had me over that ledge holding on with one hand. Mind telling my i dont have a wife to nag me any more, you could just go back and no one will care, Was/is all this effort worth it? But here i am posting another day and here is why folks.

1) I have been WUPPing so long its second nature to me now, its soooo easy.
2) when the Nicotine bitch talks, my name on roll early reminds it that i promised you all i would make it for today.
3) A special pieace of info i read here early on my quit called "choose your Harder" I've told myself this everyday since i read it, and even more so through my divorce.
4) I built my Quit wall extremely high with newbies, half dangle quitters, and vets alike that not only count on my text message but i theirs. (By far the best way to back away from that ledge is through your quit brothers and sisters)
5) The Accountability and effort i put in had people reaching out to me checking to see if i was still solid because i was only posting roll in my group.

Its hard  being a quitter, but is it worth it? HELL YES! Its worth everything! The freedom of not tracking down a can, The free landscape your home/car/job has without nasty ass spitters. The knowing that im actively  trying to take care of my health for myself and for my family. that they wont have to see me go through Chemo and radiation as i have watch my Uncle. We work at this thing Every Damn Day and i would not have it any other way. Divorce, Family deaths, favorite pet died they are just prefect opportunity's  for that nic bitch thats been waiting to open the door. Today i stand at that ledge again and weigh my options mentally, and again i am choosing freedom for today.Be better , Dip does not define you any more so toss it the finger and keep pushing.

Nick- LTBE
Nick, thanks for sharing!

You are correct quitting is not easy, and the daily struggle can be overwhelming.  Many of us want the easy button:  "Hey, I quit and nicotine is no longer in my system.  Why do I still have these withdrawal symptoms?"  "Why can't I just go back to feeling normal?"  "Can't I just have one good day without thinking about a dip?"  "Why did I dream about having a dip?"  "Will these craves ever go away?"

It does get better.  For some they stop thinking about it and can go on without much issue.  For others (like me) the healing process has been slow and at times painful.  Many people do not realize that there will be funks and quit related withdrawal symptoms for awhile.  The good news is over time these symptoms become less noticeable with the duration being longer in between events.  It does take time to heal.  Some of us also learn that we were using nicotine to cover up an issue like anxiety for instance (me!).  It does get better.

Make your promise everyday.  Keep your word.  Create relationships and build a strong quit circle.  Hold people accountable to the process.  Freedom for nicotine is worth the small amount of effort.
@nick-Otine Free (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=19005) you are smart to have established a routine that protects your quit. By waking up, pissing, and posting roll, it doesn’t matter how busy the day gets - your quit is protected. The rest is easy - keep your promise. Wish every quitter would understand this.
This is one those thoughts that should be posted in new quit groups. These little snippets from quitters who have the nic bitch by the balls and kicking her ass daily by posting their promise.
With you all the way my friend and you are providing sound advice for all. This quote really stuck out to me

4) I built my Quit wall extremely high with newbies, half dangle quitters, and vets alike that not only count on my text message but i theirs. (By far the best way to back away from that ledge is through your quit brothers and sisters)

I was skeptical at first about sharing my digits with a bunch if strangers. Dude, these strangers have saved my butt so many times and I know that without them where would I be. The greatest way that I found to really strengthen my quit was to reach out to others and be there for them. When we are there for others we are really helping ourselves. I know how important my text is to a few in my group and to some it means alot to have that interaction. I know which in my group that when I am having a bad day or early on in my quit I was at the ledge I could call/text and say help. We need each other more then we want to think and just like The Samaritan we have no idea what we might mean to somebody at that moment. I agree with old school some of us take longer to heal and at 509 days in I finally might be getter to the bottom of my GI issues. I still crave but I can laugh it off, I still dream but I recognize it and move on but I still have that nagging feeling in me like I am in mourning. After 30 plus years I guess it takes awhile to really let go and have closure. I pray daily that I will continue to be a winner over tobacco and that all my fello quitters will stay quit along with the many many more that will make that decision. Proud to be in your corner bud and God Bless ya.
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: Aquaman43 on July 28, 2021, 08:10:13 AM
Day 209

     It is funny how long nicotine try's to hang on. I felt pretty bad from day 180 to about day 200. Craving, jaw/gum itch, irritation, annoyed. All the other symptoms  have passed away but those. Even conducting June 21 i can honestly say i walked to the ledge every damn day. Deciding if my quit was worth it, My brain still trying to figure out why i even started this campaign, O how easy it would be to just stop and buy a can. looking out wondering if just one fix would help with the turmoil swirling in my mind. I have done this every day since my own HOF. And i can honestly say its Exhausting. Every damn day i walk to that ledge and weigh my options. And than my biggest test came at me. Divorce, now i don't want to dive to much into it but that type of stress, emotional roller-coaster, and loss had me over that ledge holding on with one hand. Mind telling my i dont have a wife to nag me any more, you could just go back and no one will care, Was/is all this effort worth it? But here i am posting another day and here is why folks.

1) I have been WUPPing so long its second nature to me now, its soooo easy.
2) when the Nicotine bitch talks, my name on roll early reminds it that i promised you all i would make it for today.
3) A special pieace of info i read here early on my quit called "choose your Harder" I've told myself this everyday since i read it, and even more so through my divorce.
4) I built my Quit wall extremely high with newbies, half dangle quitters, and vets alike that not only count on my text message but i theirs. (By far the best way to back away from that ledge is through your quit brothers and sisters)
5) The Accountability and effort i put in had people reaching out to me checking to see if i was still solid because i was only posting roll in my group.

Its hard  being a quitter, but is it worth it? HELL YES! Its worth everything! The freedom of not tracking down a can, The free landscape your home/car/job has without nasty ass spitters. The knowing that im actively  trying to take care of my health for myself and for my family. that they wont have to see me go through Chemo and radiation as i have watch my Uncle. We work at this thing Every Damn Day and i would not have it any other way. Divorce, Family deaths, favorite pet died they are just prefect opportunity's  for that nic bitch thats been waiting to open the door. Today i stand at that ledge again and weigh my options mentally, and again i am choosing freedom for today.Be better , Dip does not define you any more so toss it the finger and keep pushing.

Nick- LTBE

Every once in a while you will see one. It's rare, but it happens. Some quitter with a few hundred days under their belt that you just know is going to be one of the greats. Just keep making that bitch your whore on the daily brother.

Walking to the ledge. That is frightening and beautiful at the same time.
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on July 28, 2021, 08:14:43 AM
Day 209

     It is funny how long nicotine try's to hang on. I felt pretty bad from day 180 to about day 200. Craving, jaw/gum itch, irritation, annoyed. All the other symptoms  have passed away but those. Even conducting June 21 i can honestly say i walked to the ledge every damn day. Deciding if my quit was worth it, My brain still trying to figure out why i even started this campaign, O how easy it would be to just stop and buy a can. looking out wondering if just one fix would help with the turmoil swirling in my mind. I have done this every day since my own HOF. And i can honestly say its Exhausting. Every damn day i walk to that ledge and weigh my options. And than my biggest test came at me. Divorce, now i don't want to dive to much into it but that type of stress, emotional roller-coaster, and loss had me over that ledge holding on with one hand. Mind telling my i dont have a wife to nag me any more, you could just go back and no one will care, Was/is all this effort worth it? But here i am posting another day and here is why folks.

1) I have been WUPPing so long its second nature to me now, its soooo easy.
2) when the Nicotine bitch talks, my name on roll early reminds it that i promised you all i would make it for today.
3) A special pieace of info i read here early on my quit called "choose your Harder" I've told myself this everyday since i read it, and even more so through my divorce.
4) I built my Quit wall extremely high with newbies, half dangle quitters, and vets alike that not only count on my text message but i theirs. (By far the best way to back away from that ledge is through your quit brothers and sisters)
5) The Accountability and effort i put in had people reaching out to me checking to see if i was still solid because i was only posting roll in my group.

Its hard  being a quitter, but is it worth it? HELL YES! Its worth everything! The freedom of not tracking down a can, The free landscape your home/car/job has without nasty ass spitters. The knowing that im actively  trying to take care of my health for myself and for my family. that they wont have to see me go through Chemo and radiation as i have watch my Uncle. We work at this thing Every Damn Day and i would not have it any other way. Divorce, Family deaths, favorite pet died they are just prefect opportunity's  for that nic bitch thats been waiting to open the door. Today i stand at that ledge again and weigh my options mentally, and again i am choosing freedom for today.Be better , Dip does not define you any more so toss it the finger and keep pushing.

Nick- LTBE

Every once in a while you will see one. It's rare, but it happens. Some quitter with a few hundred days under their belt that you just know is going to be one of the greats. Just keep making that bitch your whore on the daily brother.

Walking to the ledge. That is frightening and beautiful at the same time.

" That is frightening and beautiful at the same time" ahhhh thisss, the sense of reality makes it humbling, we can only truly be free(er) from our addiction with honesty. the true balance is what keeps you aware in the first place. I quit with you .
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on August 03, 2021, 09:52:18 AM
6 Remember this: Whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows generously will also reap generously. 7 Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. 8 And God is able to bless you abundantly, so that in all things at all times, having all that you need, you will abound in every good work.

                                                                        2 Corinthians 9:6-8


This is a perfect verse for KTC, to me i rings that bell i hear alot around here "take what you need, leave the rest". But to A deeper level. You see KTC is bigger than that and if your just taking what you need how is that helping anyone else? anyone can post a day count on a phone app, Calendar, or their fridge. But if you "sow Sparingly" and dig deep roots into this site it will help your quit ten fold. Making it to 100 days is huge but the reality is, what keeps people free of this harmful and deadly addiction is the investment. Each of us decides how much and how important our quit journey is. over and over again you see people struggling in their 500s or 1000s and its a clear sign that these little battle we win are far from over. giving back and helping newer quitters or even popping jokes in other groups has helped me stay quit on some of those darker day, have no clue what i would do if i left after HOF or didn't at least try to help someone here with their struggles. I dont do this " reluctantly or under compulsion" I do it because it helps others and more importantly it helps me. Have a Fantasitc Day borthers and sisters and i hope you all remain Forever quit! New here? join a group , Join my group , i dont care as long as you make the effort to toss that can Im on your side.

~Nick-Otine Free-217 days free for another day, LTBE
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: bubblehed668 on August 03, 2021, 10:31:03 AM
6 Remember this: Whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows generously will also reap generously. 7 Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. 8 And God is able to bless you abundantly, so that in all things at all times, having all that you need, you will abound in every good work.

                                                                        2 Corinthians 9:6-8


This is a perfect verse for KTC, to me i rings that bell i hear alot around here "take what you need, leave the rest". But to A deeper level. You see KTC is bigger than that and if your just taking what you need how is that helping anyone else? anyone can post a day count on a phone app, Calendar, or their fridge. But if you "sow Sparingly" and dig deep roots into this site it will help your quit ten fold. Making it to 100 days is huge but the reality is, what keeps people free of this harmful and deadly addiction is the investment. Each of us decides how much and how important our quit journey is. over and over again you see people struggling in their 500s or 1000s and its a clear sign that these little battle we win are far from over. giving back and helping newer quitters or even popping jokes in other groups has helped me stay quit on some of those darker day, have no clue what i would do if i left after HOF or didn't at least try to help someone here with their struggles. I dont do this " reluctantly or under compulsion" I do it because it helps others and more importantly it helps me. Have a Fantasitc Day borthers and sisters and i hope you all remain Forever quit! New here? join a group , Join my group , i dont care as long as you make the effort to toss that can Im on your side.

~Nick-Otine Free-217 days free for another day, LTBE

I hear people bitch about it all the time say when I'm on KTC all I think about is nic and when I'm away I don't think about it. One thing I have learned over time is that you want to be here thinking about it, that way it is in front of you and you can handle it with help. If you are not here the nic biotch is behind you a nd you never know when she will show up and try to pull you back in.

Keep killing it and leading Nick, you are what KTC is built on.
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on August 18, 2021, 08:58:25 AM
     I Had some pondering on my way to work this morning, maybe its me practicing some meditation but i like to know what sets people on the path of growth of change and betterment. So as i went back further and further trying to dial into what got this quit ball rolling I found 1 really big factor. In October of 2020 i decided it was time to grow up and find myself a PC doctor. After checking everything she stated i was healthy and seen that i had chewed this was her response " Im not your parents so im not going to lecture you, But know i do not support nicotine in any form and you may not see it but its damaging your body and it will catch up to you one day" This is all she had to say on the matter as she went to check my lungs next.

     I sat and rolled that comment around in my head for 2 months, pissed off! who the hell was she? Talk to me as if i was a child! what does she even know about how addictive this habit is! Maybe i should find another PC doctor. And as that rage built the day came where i was sick and tired of chasing poison. You can read about the day i quit(2 months later 12-30-2020) in my HOF speech, but after thinking about it i believe it was my will to show my PC doctor that im better than i thought she thought of me. She never said she was disappointed or ashamed or guilt tripped me, she probably thinks im amazing, which of course i am. But in my mind her pure honesty struck the spark that forever changed my life.

    Do some digging, Why did you quit? what's stopping your from quitting? How are you going to change your life for good? I hope newbies here read this and realize the Vets here are that PC Doctor that talked to me back in October! Were brutally honesty and come off as rude assholes! but if you dig deep after your fog has cleared you will realize we were that spark that ignited your fire! This site is not always for the faint of heart, but it will change your life and help you remain nicotine free if you let it and do the work. I urge anyone reading this that has not joined a group yet to do so immediately going it alone only takes you so far.

~I am forever thankful for my Quit, Nick- LTBE= Let Today Be Enough
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: Thefranks5 on August 18, 2021, 10:15:01 AM
     I Had some pondering on my way to work this morning, maybe its me practicing some meditation but i like to know what sets people on the path of growth of change and betterment. So as i went back further and further trying to dial into what got this quit ball rolling I found 1 really big factor. In October of 2020 i decided it was time to grow up and find myself a PC doctor. After checking everything she stated i was healthy and seen that i had chewed this was her response " Im not your parents so im not going to lecture you, But know i do not support nicotine in any form and you may not see it but its damaging your body and it will catch up to you one day" This is all she had to say on the matter as she went to check my lungs next.

     I sat and rolled that comment around in my head for 2 months, pissed off! who the hell was she? Talk to me as if i was a child! what does she even know about how addictive this habit is! Maybe i should find another PC doctor. And as that rage built the day came where i was sick and tired of chasing poison. You can read about the day i quit(2 months later 12-30-2020) in my HOF speech, but after thinking about it i believe it was my will to show my PC doctor that im better than i thought she thought of me. She never said she was disappointed or ashamed or guilt tripped me, she probably thinks im amazing, which of course i am. But in my mind her pure honesty struck the spark that forever changed my life.

    Do some digging, Why did you quit? what's stopping your from quitting? How are you going to change your life for good? I hope newbies here read this and realize the Vets here are that PC Doctor that talked to me back in October! Were brutally honesty and come off as rude assholes! but if you dig deep after your fog has cleared you will realize we were that spark that ignited your fire! This site is not always for the faint of heart, but it will change your life and help you remain nicotine free if you let it and do the work. I urge anyone reading this that has not joined a group yet to do so immediately going it alone only takes you so far.

~I am forever thankful for my Quit, Nick- LTBE= Let Today Be Enough
Sometimes that is the gentle kick in the ass that we need. Fist pump her and say thanks but if allowed that PC deserves a hug. Love how sometimes it just a random person that wakes us up.
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: Stranger999 on August 19, 2021, 12:08:12 AM
     I Had some pondering on my way to work this morning, maybe its me practicing some meditation but i like to know what sets people on the path of growth of change and betterment. So as i went back further and further trying to dial into what got this quit ball rolling I found 1 really big factor. In October of 2020 i decided it was time to grow up and find myself a PC doctor. After checking everything she stated i was healthy and seen that i had chewed this was her response " Im not your parents so im not going to lecture you, But know i do not support nicotine in any form and you may not see it but its damaging your body and it will catch up to you one day" This is all she had to say on the matter as she went to check my lungs next.

     I sat and rolled that comment around in my head for 2 months, pissed off! who the hell was she? Talk to me as if i was a child! what does she even know about how addictive this habit is! Maybe i should find another PC doctor. And as that rage built the day came where i was sick and tired of chasing poison. You can read about the day i quit(2 months later 12-30-2020) in my HOF speech, but after thinking about it i believe it was my will to show my PC doctor that im better than i thought she thought of me. She never said she was disappointed or ashamed or guilt tripped me, she probably thinks im amazing, which of course i am. But in my mind her pure honesty struck the spark that forever changed my life.

    Do some digging, Why did you quit? what's stopping your from quitting? How are you going to change your life for good? I hope newbies here read this and realize the Vets here are that PC Doctor that talked to me back in October! Were brutally honesty and come off as rude assholes! but if you dig deep after your fog has cleared you will realize we were that spark that ignited your fire! This site is not always for the faint of heart, but it will change your life and help you remain nicotine free if you let it and do the work. I urge anyone reading this that has not joined a group yet to do so immediately going it alone only takes you so far.

~I am forever thankful for my Quit, Nick- LTBE= Let Today Be Enough
Sometimes that is the gentle kick in the ass that we need. Fist pump her and say thanks but if allowed that PC deserves a hug. Love how sometimes it just a random person that wakes us up.

A dental visit pushed me towards quitting too, but it is not why I quit.  In the end I had to put my foot down and make that decision for myself.  I quit because I came to hate the mechanics of chewing - the random gagging, the spit cup spills, the feeling like I was going to vomit, and hiding all of this from those I love.
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on August 20, 2021, 07:25:04 AM
FK'EM UP FRIDAY

People who take complete responsibility for their lives experience joy and control of circumstances. They are able to make choices because they understand that they are responsible for their choices.

Indeed, even when events that are not under your control go awry, you can at the very least determine how you will react to the event. You can make an event a disaster or you can use it as an opportunity to learn and to grow.

The most important aspect of taking responsibility for your life is to acknowledge that your life is your responsibility. No one can live your life for you. You are in charge. No matter how hard you try to blame others for the events of your life, each event is the result of choices you made and are making.

Want to quit? Then, quit. It is not your job, your spouse or partner, the cost, or the time that holds you back from achieving your dreams. It is you. Want to weigh a certain number of pounds? Then, eat and exercise like the person who would weigh that particular weight.

Happy Friday Team we all took on a huge responsibility quitting, I did it for myself the first 6 months now i do it for all of you as well. Keeping pushing brothas I caved shortly after a year on my own about 7 years ago so i know this game is not over.


Daily Motivation:  “Knowing trees, I understand the meaning of patience. Knowing grass, I can appreciate persistence.~Hal Borland~
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: bubblehed668 on August 21, 2021, 01:46:14 PM
FK'EM UP FRIDAY

People who take complete responsibility for their lives experience joy and control of circumstances. They are able to make choices because they understand that they are responsible for their choices.

Indeed, even when events that are not under your control go awry, you can at the very least determine how you will react to the event. You can make an event a disaster or you can use it as an opportunity to learn and to grow.

The most important aspect of taking responsibility for your life is to acknowledge that your life is your responsibility. No one can live your life for you. You are in charge. No matter how hard you try to blame others for the events of your life, each event is the result of choices you made and are making.

Want to quit? Then, quit. It is not your job, your spouse or partner, the cost, or the time that holds you back from achieving your dreams. It is you. Want to weigh a certain number of pounds? Then, eat and exercise like the person who would weigh that particular weight.

Happy Friday Team we all took on a huge responsibility quitting, I did it for myself the first 6 months now i do it for all of you as well. Keeping pushing brothas I caved shortly after a year on my own about 7 years ago so i know this game is not over.


Daily Motivation:  “Knowing trees, I understand the meaning of patience. Knowing grass, I can appreciate persistence.~Hal Borland~

@nick-Otine Free (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=19005) that is freaking awesome. I am goin to tag this in my signature titled "Choices". This is total word porn.
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on August 25, 2021, 08:25:52 AM
Joe Rogan - Theres gotta be these Days you push Through (https://youtu.be/u4taz6dfPQc)

     This was a good listen this morning, What are you going to Do? Keep dipping and planning your Quit? Keep doing the same old "same dip different day"? How are you going to really change the direction of your own health? We all been where you are! We know what it takes to quit! we all took responsibility for our own health and maned up and accepted the cancer can is not the way. But you have to go all in "like your life Depends on it" its not for the faint of heart and its not for the weak minded. Takes pride and tenacity to really push you forward every day and accept that you are a addict but live a nicotine free life in the same sentence.

Nick-239 LTBE
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on August 26, 2021, 08:33:35 AM
How do we make Cavers understand!

     I am writing this in my intro because i think there is a break somewhere and it starts with a addict wanting to keep doing things their way. Caving wont be and never will be accepted which we all internally know even on a personal level. So now comes the big question!  why argue with a bunch of vets that know how to quit? they came to this Very site, KTC, there are other weaker less demanding sites out there but they picked this one again.

1)They have tried to stop many times and have failed time and time again.
2) They had a health scare and now need help digging out of that hole
3) their familys are being effected or are angry because of the awful habit
4) They quit once with this site but dont think their cave was serious enough to answer 3 really easy and important questions

Are they arguing and pissed off because they failed themselves and lots of people counting on them? Is their Pride bigger than their concept to humble themselves to answer such questions? Is the thought of digging deep and being truly honest with their self to much share?

     I have not figured it out, I just read a Bad ass message from another quitter about how only 15% of people that quit stay nicotine fee with a support system. That number is shockingly low and tell you how hard this addiction is to quit even with a team of support. So why would you not invest your all into to try and be in that 15%? 3 simple questions with deep honest answers may be the ticket that gets you in that low percent of life time quit!

-I dont owe you or anyone anything!( than why are you hear?)
-im not gonna answer to a bunch of assholes and dudes with a hard egos( you mean the ones that are investing their time to make you understand?)
-Bunch of power hungry Admin and Mods trying to show they mean something ( you mean the guys that have been pro quitters, are apart of that 15% and have brought other countless quitters into that 15% because of their dedication?)
-Just bring all their buddies to gang up on me ( This is a community! were all in this! every quitter ! its why KTC works! its not buddys its Brotherhood)

     It takes one weak link and the chain breaks, The worst thing a vet can do is invest into a new quitter who is not serious and watch them cave. Worse they don't even come back for a day 1, They just dip for another 7 years. Yes groups should be tight but i would not be working on getting into that 15% myself with out pocket loads of vets who invested in me. I dont wanna Give my Time to a repeat caver thats headed into the same direction that lead them to a 10 year dip spree.

     This site offers so much insight and its the hard nose way to quit. And this is the exact reason  why answering the 3 questions is important. Dont care if someone invest in you? its probably because you showed you cant be relied on and need coddled because you fucked up the first time. Were Assholes until you see the light and realize were hear for accountability and if you cant hold yourself accountable and be honest with your own self first how can you ask someone to help you along the way. Brotherhood is def important and  part of glue, how do you build that with mistrust? takes a village to raise a quitter or however that saying goes.


Nick-240 days LTBE- Let Today Be Enough- yesterday is long gone, tomorrow may never come, But TODAY, TODAY is Enough!
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: bubblehed668 on August 27, 2021, 09:37:11 AM
How do we make Cavers understand!

     I am writing this in my intro because i think there is a break somewhere and it starts with a addict wanting to keep doing things their way. Caving wont be and never will be accepted which we all internally know even on a personal level. So now comes the big question!  why argue with a bunch of vets that know how to quit? they came to this Very site, KTC, there are other weaker less demanding sites out there but they picked this one again.

1)They have tried to stop many times and have failed time and time again.
2) They had a health scare and now need help digging out of that hole
3) their familys are being effected or are angry because of the awful habit
4) They quit once with this site but dont think their cave was serious enough to answer 3 really easy and important questions

Are they arguing and pissed off because they failed themselves and lots of people counting on them? Is their Pride bigger than their concept to humble themselves to answer such questions? Is the thought of digging deep and being truly honest with their self to much share?

     I have not figured it out, I just read a Bad ass message from another quitter about how only 15% of people that quit stay nicotine fee with a support system. That number is shockingly low and tell you how hard this addiction is to quit even with a team of support. So why would you not invest your all into to try and be in that 15%? 3 simple questions with deep honest answers may be the ticket that gets you in that low percent of life time quit!

-I dont owe you or anyone anything!( than why are you hear?)
-im not gonna answer to a bunch of assholes and dudes with a hard egos( you mean the ones that are investing their time to make you understand?)
-Bunch of power hungry Admin and Mods trying to show they mean something ( you mean the guys that have been pro quitters, are apart of that 15% and have brought other countless quitters into that 15% because of their dedication?)
-Just bring all their buddies to gang up on me ( This is a community! were all in this! every quitter ! its why KTC works! its not buddys its Brotherhood)

     It takes one weak link and the chain breaks, The worst thing a vet can do is invest into a new quitter who is not serious and watch them cave. Worse they don't even come back for a day 1, They just dip for another 7 years. Yes groups should be tight but i would not be working on getting into that 15% myself with out pocket loads of vets who invested in me. I dont wanna Give my Time to a repeat caver thats headed into the same direction that lead them to a 10 year dip spree.

     This site offers so much insight and its the hard nose way to quit. And this is the exact reason  why answering the 3 questions is important. Dont care if someone invest in you? its probably because you showed you cant be relied on and need coddled because you fucked up the first time. Were Assholes until you see the light and realize were hear for accountability and if you cant hold yourself accountable and be honest with your own self first how can you ask someone to help you along the way. Brotherhood is def important and  part of glue, how do you build that with mistrust? takes a village to raise a quitter or however that saying goes.


Nick-240 days LTBE- Let Today Be Enough- yesterday is long gone, tomorrow may never come, But TODAY, TODAY is Enough!

Outfuckingstanding @nick-Otine Free (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=19005) this just gave me a quit chub :wood. @Administrator (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=groups;sa=members;group=1) I know we used to have a place called Words of Wisdom or some sort that only Admins could add great things. I do believe this is one of those.

Keep up the great quit Nick   'clap' 'clap'
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: DaddysJunk on August 28, 2021, 06:57:05 PM
How do we make Cavers understand!

     I am writing this in my intro because i think there is a break somewhere and it starts with a addict wanting to keep doing things their way. Caving wont be and never will be accepted which we all internally know even on a personal level. So now comes the big question!  why argue with a bunch of vets that know how to quit? they came to this Very site, KTC, there are other weaker less demanding sites out there but they picked this one again.

1)They have tried to stop many times and have failed time and time again.
2) They had a health scare and now need help digging out of that hole
3) their familys are being effected or are angry because of the awful habit
4) They quit once with this site but dont think their cave was serious enough to answer 3 really easy and important questions

Are they arguing and pissed off because they failed themselves and lots of people counting on them? Is their Pride bigger than their concept to humble themselves to answer such questions? Is the thought of digging deep and being truly honest with their self to much share?

     I have not figured it out, I just read a Bad ass message from another quitter about how only 15% of people that quit stay nicotine fee with a support system. That number is shockingly low and tell you how hard this addiction is to quit even with a team of support. So why would you not invest your all into to try and be in that 15%? 3 simple questions with deep honest answers may be the ticket that gets you in that low percent of life time quit!

-I dont owe you or anyone anything!( than why are you hear?)
-im not gonna answer to a bunch of assholes and dudes with a hard egos( you mean the ones that are investing their time to make you understand?)
-Bunch of power hungry Admin and Mods trying to show they mean something ( you mean the guys that have been pro quitters, are apart of that 15% and have brought other countless quitters into that 15% because of their dedication?)
-Just bring all their buddies to gang up on me ( This is a community! were all in this! every quitter ! its why KTC works! its not buddys its Brotherhood)

     It takes one weak link and the chain breaks, The worst thing a vet can do is invest into a new quitter who is not serious and watch them cave. Worse they don't even come back for a day 1, They just dip for another 7 years. Yes groups should be tight but i would not be working on getting into that 15% myself with out pocket loads of vets who invested in me. I dont wanna Give my Time to a repeat caver thats headed into the same direction that lead them to a 10 year dip spree.

     This site offers so much insight and its the hard nose way to quit. And this is the exact reason  why answering the 3 questions is important. Dont care if someone invest in you? its probably because you showed you cant be relied on and need coddled because you fucked up the first time. Were Assholes until you see the light and realize were hear for accountability and if you cant hold yourself accountable and be honest with your own self first how can you ask someone to help you along the way. Brotherhood is def important and  part of glue, how do you build that with mistrust? takes a village to raise a quitter or however that saying goes.


Nick-240 days LTBE- Let Today Be Enough- yesterday is long gone, tomorrow may never come, But TODAY, TODAY is Enough!

Outfuckingstanding @nick-Otine Free (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=19005) this just gave me a quit chub :wood. @Administrator (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=groups;sa=members;group=1) I know we used to have a place called Words of Wisdom or some sort that only Admins could add great things. I do believe this is one of those.

Keep up the great quit Nick   'clap' 'clap'
I second the motion for Words of Wisdom. This is gold.
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on August 31, 2021, 08:29:04 AM
10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.

                                                                      Ephesians 2:10


      We were all meant to shine in our own unique way, some wont see eye to eye and that's very ok, try to remain humble for we are all special and have something to offer. This has been given to us at birth and we are so very lucky. If your reading this and are newbie, a vet, or trying to find a reason as why to keep posting roll. Know each quitter matters to this site, you may not think your the difference but you very well could be the strongest block in the wall without even knowing it. I swing into multi different groups, and i do so because it helps my own quit seeing people still sticking around 10 years later, or the jokes they crack in their own group. Its special, your roll post matters and i hope everyone has a fantastic Taco Tuesday!

Nick- 8 months LTBE
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on September 02, 2021, 07:56:37 AM
Still not sure if you want to quit? Last Week i called my uncle (prideful man) if you read more in my intro you will find alot of his throat cancer journey due to dipping. Anyhow he sounded so weak and tired, he stated he was in a lot of pain but that he was done with the radiation treatments now for good. which he was happy about, not sure if he was drugged up or just to tired to have emotion behind his words but he nonchalantly said he has been in loads of pain was exhausted and his gums have been bleeding. I said * your gums are bleeding? He said yup its kinda annoying. Now i didnt have the nerve to tell him how crazy that sounded like bro your GUMS ARE BLEEDING? but im sure he new but im assuming that was the LEAST of his problems.

Wanna put another dip in? Think one more day is smart? what are the Odds that it will happen to me? ^^^^ do you want to be on a phone call being nonchalant to your family telling them your gums bleeding and paper thin skin from chemo and radiation? I cant do it for you but trust me you dont wanna be on the wrong side of this coin. I PROMISE YOU! IVE WATCHED/WITNESSED/SEEN THE HORRORS OF DIPPING!

Nick-LTBE
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: Thefranks5 on September 07, 2021, 06:49:05 PM
Still not sure if you want to quit? Last Week i called my uncle (prideful man) if you read more in my intro you will find alot of his throat cancer journey due to dipping. Anyhow he sounded so weak and tired, he stated he was in a lot of pain but that he was done with the radiation treatments now for good. which he was happy about, not sure if he was drugged up or just to tired to have emotion behind his words but he nonchalantly said he has been in loads of pain was exhausted and his gums have been bleeding. I said * your gums are bleeding? He said yup its kinda annoying. Now i didnt have the nerve to tell him how crazy that sounded like bro your GUMS ARE BLEEDING? but im sure he new but im assuming that was the LEAST of his problems.

Wanna put another dip in? Think one more day is smart? what are the Odds that it will happen to me? ^^^^ do you want to be on a phone call being nonchalant to your family telling them your gums bleeding and paper thin skin from chemo and radiation? I cant do it for you but trust me you dont wanna be on the wrong side of this coin. I PROMISE YOU! IVE WATCHED/WITNESSED/SEEN THE HORRORS OF DIPPING!

Nick-LTBE
With ya my friend and it pains me to see young men chewing. I wish I could could give them an earful but when I was that age I was invincible. I don’t think the mindset has changed either that it won’t ever happen to me as it is always somebody else. Just wish that some would listen before its to late but that is on them. When I checked in tonight to look at the intro page I saw 52 guests. Good night, if we had all them in one month we would have some super busy conductors. To all who still dip and are looking to quit take it from me a 30 plus year addict that it can be done. Nick and I will be waiting here for ya to boost you up and help you along. That is what brothers/sisters here at KTC do, we take care of each other. Thank you Nick for all that you have contributed. It has not fell on deaf ears!!!
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on September 08, 2021, 09:06:22 AM
     Today I woke up again with a headache and a little bit nauseous, 3 days of dealing with this frustration and annoyance. However when I got on roll this morning I seen my fellow Thunder brother Jeepmoxie  was struggling as well. I can say this, I joined KTC for reasons like these. seeing someone else ,only a day behind in his quit, going through something similar almost immediately toughened my resolve. " Damn Nick he is going through the same shit as well and he is still going don't be a pussy" " Fuck this if he can stay quit I damn sure know I can". Its the Magic of Brotherhood + Accountability that keeps Me quit, If I was going it alone I would be just another guest standing out in the cold looking in.
     As many know, one of the ways i stay quit or distract my craving mind is by listing to motivational stuff on my way to work instead of slinging Horse shit in my lip. This is some of the messages I heard today and am applying to my Quit: Self discipline is the ability to want to do something , but do it any way. I may not want to to WUPP, But i do it any way. I may not want to Let people know ill be late to roll, but i do it anyway. I may not have felt comfortable giving out my phone number, but i did it any way. Change your mentality and on the other side there is greatness. YOU can face down everyone including that weak voice inside your own mind.
     If you truly want to achieve something, you got to find ways to put yourself at risk of something great happening. I wanted my freedom so I risked putting myself out there on this site to walk into my great new nicotine free life. I accepted my own responsibility, i see myself as primarily responsible for my outcomes and my experience. I can drink as much of the kool-aid as i want , i must first hold myself to the higher standard of my quit and KTC comes Second to helping me stay quit. Cause and effect exist, if you want to get better at something you need to put in the work. If you want to save your own life you must be willing to face the flames. Lock and load yourself with every tool to get you out of the trenches of nicotine and possible death.
     I dare you to take a stand today, to say " NO MORE". I will no longer Accept this (dip) for my life. I dare you to take action today. I dare you to quit and have KTC keep you Accountable.

Nick-Otine Free- 57 LTBE

     This was almost 200 days ago........ WOW, just incredible. I give all credit to this site, Quitting is a marathon not a sprint . these were hard days, and this is a perfect reminder as i woke up today wanting that fix just one more time. But the true honest key is....drum roll please...... YOU have to want your freedom more than anything in the world. Jump first and grow wings on the way down. You do this and tack on what i said ^^^^^ at day 57. you will be well on your way to a nicotine free life. Listen, observe, join in, get involved and as your group gets stronger begin to expand to other areas of the site. There is something here for every single person. choose what works best for you and your quit and this could be the day you look back at your own 200 day past and be inspired about just how far you have come.

I quit non stop, day in and day out. Be the Change you want to see in the world! Will see you on December roll and ill be cheering for you!
Nick-253 LTBE
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: Addictx3 on September 08, 2021, 10:32:04 AM
     Today I woke up again with a headache and a little bit nauseous, 3 days of dealing with this frustration and annoyance. However when I got on roll this morning I seen my fellow Thunder brother Jeepmoxie  was struggling as well. I can say this, I joined KTC for reasons like these. seeing someone else ,only a day behind in his quit, going through something similar almost immediately toughened my resolve. " Damn Nick he is going through the same shit as well and he is still going don't be a pussy" " Fuck this if he can stay quit I damn sure know I can". Its the Magic of Brotherhood + Accountability that keeps Me quit, If I was going it alone I would be just another guest standing out in the cold looking in.
     As many know, one of the ways i stay quit or distract my craving mind is by listing to motivational stuff on my way to work instead of slinging Horse shit in my lip. This is some of the messages I heard today and am applying to my Quit: Self discipline is the ability to want to do something , but do it any way. I may not want to to WUPP, But i do it any way. I may not want to Let people know ill be late to roll, but i do it anyway. I may not have felt comfortable giving out my phone number, but i did it any way. Change your mentality and on the other side there is greatness. YOU can face down everyone including that weak voice inside your own mind.
     If you truly want to achieve something, you got to find ways to put yourself at risk of something great happening. I wanted my freedom so I risked putting myself out there on this site to walk into my great new nicotine free life. I accepted my own responsibility, i see myself as primarily responsible for my outcomes and my experience. I can drink as much of the kool-aid as i want , i must first hold myself to the higher standard of my quit and KTC comes Second to helping me stay quit. Cause and effect exist, if you want to get better at something you need to put in the work. If you want to save your own life you must be willing to face the flames. Lock and load yourself with every tool to get you out of the trenches of nicotine and possible death.
     I dare you to take a stand today, to say " NO MORE". I will no longer Accept this (dip) for my life. I dare you to take action today. I dare you to quit and have KTC keep you Accountable.

Nick-Otine Free- 57 LTBE

     This was almost 200 days ago........ WOW, just incredible. I give all credit to this site, Quitting is a marathon not a sprint . these were hard days, and this is a perfect reminder as i woke up today wanting that fix just one more time. But the true honest key is....drum roll please...... YOU have to want your freedom more than anything in the world. Jump first and grow wings on the way down. You do this and tack on what i said ^^^^^ at day 57. you will be well on your way to a nicotine free life. Listen, observe, join in, get involved and as your group gets stronger begin to expand to other areas of the site. There is something here for every single person. choose what works best for you and your quit and this could be the day you look back at your own 200 day past and be inspired about just how far you have come.

I quit non stop, day in and day out. Be the Change you want to see in the world! Will see you on December roll and ill be cheering for you!
Nick-253 LTBE

Hell yeah Nick! You are a great, positive presence in this community. Props to you.
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: DaddysJunk on September 08, 2021, 11:32:46 AM
     Today I woke up again with a headache and a little bit nauseous, 3 days of dealing with this frustration and annoyance. However when I got on roll this morning I seen my fellow Thunder brother Jeepmoxie  was struggling as well. I can say this, I joined KTC for reasons like these. seeing someone else ,only a day behind in his quit, going through something similar almost immediately toughened my resolve. " Damn Nick he is going through the same shit as well and he is still going don't be a pussy" " Fuck this if he can stay quit I damn sure know I can". Its the Magic of Brotherhood + Accountability that keeps Me quit, If I was going it alone I would be just another guest standing out in the cold looking in.
     As many know, one of the ways i stay quit or distract my craving mind is by listing to motivational stuff on my way to work instead of slinging Horse shit in my lip. This is some of the messages I heard today and am applying to my Quit: Self discipline is the ability to want to do something , but do it any way. I may not want to to WUPP, But i do it any way. I may not want to Let people know ill be late to roll, but i do it anyway. I may not have felt comfortable giving out my phone number, but i did it any way. Change your mentality and on the other side there is greatness. YOU can face down everyone including that weak voice inside your own mind.
     If you truly want to achieve something, you got to find ways to put yourself at risk of something great happening. I wanted my freedom so I risked putting myself out there on this site to walk into my great new nicotine free life. I accepted my own responsibility, i see myself as primarily responsible for my outcomes and my experience. I can drink as much of the kool-aid as i want , i must first hold myself to the higher standard of my quit and KTC comes Second to helping me stay quit. Cause and effect exist, if you want to get better at something you need to put in the work. If you want to save your own life you must be willing to face the flames. Lock and load yourself with every tool to get you out of the trenches of nicotine and possible death.
     I dare you to take a stand today, to say " NO MORE". I will no longer Accept this (dip) for my life. I dare you to take action today. I dare you to quit and have KTC keep you Accountable.

Nick-Otine Free- 57 LTBE

     This was almost 200 days ago........ WOW, just incredible. I give all credit to this site, Quitting is a marathon not a sprint . these were hard days, and this is a perfect reminder as i woke up today wanting that fix just one more time. But the true honest key is....drum roll please...... YOU have to want your freedom more than anything in the world. Jump first and grow wings on the way down. You do this and tack on what i said ^^^^^ at day 57. you will be well on your way to a nicotine free life. Listen, observe, join in, get involved and as your group gets stronger begin to expand to other areas of the site. There is something here for every single person. choose what works best for you and your quit and this could be the day you look back at your own 200 day past and be inspired about just how far you have come.

I quit non stop, day in and day out. Be the Change you want to see in the world! Will see you on December roll and ill be cheering for you!
Nick-253 LTBE
Exactly!! You can't grow those wings until you JUMP! You think you're gonna die at first, then you realize you're kind of gliding. Next thing you know, one day you're flying without realizing it. Baby birds can't fly until they're shoved out the nest, and either fly or die before they hit the ground. But once they fly, they are FREE!

What are all these guests waiting for? Quit being a pussy! Fucking jump into your quit! We will help you fly.
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on September 14, 2021, 08:33:35 AM
 ITS A DOG FIGHT (https://youtu.be/UcAHpo8mSfI)

"The only way I Lose is if I quit"

" Becasue I Know I am  1 YES away"

"You Cant Defeat ME"

" Diamonds Are Created under Pressure and Heat, and after all they go through all that struggle they become Unbreakable"

" the First thing they Teach in you in Navy basic training  is how to respond when your gun jams and how to carry a dead body"

     Watch the Video above and picture and relate it all to quitting nicotine. You wanna quit? Be prepared for a DOGFIGHT! Want help? Be willing to be helped! Its never gonna happen if you keep doing it your way. Its never gonna happen if you leave after 100 days. Do you want to win or do you want to stop for awhile and go back to something that kills you. Are you that dead body we have to carry off the KTC field? Can you handle the pressure of strangers holding you accountable ? Are you strong enough to make it though those hard days where life aint fair!
This system works, look around you will see. Think your smarter than what works... Well you aint got that DOG in ya. Its so easy to slowly start fading away from this site but lately i see so many returning wishing they would have never left. Because Dipping is no joke! That glass and insolation in that pinch rips and tears your gums to hell. floods your blood pressure and injects Poison into your body. Teeth stained brown with that floating leaf stuck to the front of your tooth. Making you look like the Back end of a mule.

Get in the DOGFIGHT! Be Intentional! And Quit, I cant.... I wont do it for you. Becasue you can see those that really wanna be free of chains and those that are leaving the window open. Great video LETS GO. DONT TALK ABOUT IT---- BE ABOUT IT!
Nick-259 LTBE
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on September 17, 2021, 07:36:45 AM
FKEM UP FRIDAY

When your WUPP is TESTED (https://youtu.be/PPHt0JWLg-o)
     
     What a great listen this morning! So relatable to quitting nicotine and this Site. We come up with bullshit excuses as to why we can not take 2 minutes every morning to jump on and post roll. "im to busy", "my family is more important", "I have other priority's that come first" "ill get to it when i can" Every addict has there own go to excuse as to why they cant make it on roll by noon ---> *insert your bullshit lie here* It makes sense, were addicts, We need just a gap so we can to slip back to the can. You read that correct, Addicts want to go back to the can. If were honest to ourselves were always thinking about packing our lip no matter how long you have been free from it. Heres where we separate "there are days we dont want to WUPP, But we DO IT ANYWAY!" "THE JOB HAS TO GET DONE REGARDLESS OF YOUR EMOTIONS"  we have to Love the WUPP Especially when we dont feel like it and that is what we call the TEST DAYS. That's what we Have to do as addicts to EARN our way into Freedom. It a chance to prove to other newbies and vets but most importantly yourself what your made off, That you are what you say you are, That your word is your bond, That you are a person of integrity and honor. The real magic is WUPPing when our body and heart says were not going to any more, but our MIND tells us to DO IT ANYWAY. Thats were Bad Ass quitters separate themselves from those that fail and leave, or stop posting roll. The minute the nic bitch starts telling you to post later, the minute you feel this site is not for you, The minute you put other things in front of your quit. The minute you say you don't wanna quit any more. But you DO IT ANYWAY  That's the difference between a LOSER and someone who is a successful in keeping dip out of their life for good. the last 2 minutes of this video he even mentions addiction. "Every Addiction has a trigger, and when you start to WUPP thats when the magic happens, When you step up when your being tested its gonna be of the best wins you encounter in your own quit! MOVE FORWARD ANYWAY! YOUR ADDICTION IS WINNING FROM HERE ON OUT!

Nick-LTBE-262 days of WUPPING EDD
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: ChickDip on September 19, 2021, 01:10:04 AM
FKEM UP FRIDAY

When your WUPP is TESTED (https://youtu.be/PPHt0JWLg-o)
     
     What a great listen this morning! So relatable to quitting nicotine and this Site. We come up with bullshit excuses as to why we can not take 2 minutes every morning to jump on and post roll. "im to busy", "my family is more important", "I have other priority's that come first" "ill get to it when i can" Every addict has there own go to excuse as to why they cant make it on roll by noon ---> *insert your bullshit lie here* It makes sense, were addicts, We need just a gap so we can to slip back to the can. You read that correct, Addicts want to go back to the can. If were honest to ourselves were always thinking about packing our lip no matter how long you have been free from it. Heres where we separate "there are days we dont want to WUPP, But we DO IT ANYWAY!" "THE JOB HAS TO GET DONE REGARDLESS OF YOUR EMOTIONS"  we have to Love the WUPP Especially when we dont feel like it and that is what we call the TEST DAYS. That's what we Have to do as addicts to EARN our way into Freedom. It a chance to prove to other newbies and vets but most importantly yourself what your made off, That you are what you say you are, That your word is your bond, That you are a person of integrity and honor. The real magic is WUPPing when our body and heart says were not going to any more, but our MIND tells us to DO IT ANYWAY. Thats were Bad Ass quitters separate themselves from those that fail and leave, or stop posting roll. The minute the nic bitch starts telling you to post later, the minute you feel this site is not for you, The minute you put other things in front of your quit. The minute you say you don't wanna quit any more. But you DO IT ANYWAY  That's the difference between a LOSER and someone who is a successful in keeping dip out of their life for good. the last 2 minutes of this video he even mentions addiction. "Every Addiction has a trigger, and when you start to WUPP thats when the magic happens, When you step up when your being tested its gonna be of the best wins you encounter in your own quit! MOVE FORWARD ANYWAY! YOUR ADDICTION IS WINNING FROM HERE ON OUT!

Nick-LTBE-262 days of WUPPING EDD
The minute the nic bitch starts telling you to post later, the minute you feel this site is not for you, The minute you put other things in front of your quit. The minute you say you don't wanna quit any more. But you DO IT ANYWAY  That's the difference between a LOSER and someone who is a successful in keeping dip out of their life for good.

Mic drop
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on September 21, 2021, 08:34:06 AM
Contract To Give UpWhen you’re ready to give up your quit, print, and sign.

The Contract To Give Up

I give up my quit. Quitting is impossible and I cannot do it. I love dipping more than I love myself. I care about dipping more than I care about my personal health. I love dipping more than I love my family. I know this addiction will kill me, and I ACCEPT that fact. I enjoy spending time alone with my can more than I enjoy spending time with anyone else on the planet. I look forward to losing my jaw, my tongue, my throat, my life – it’s worth it. When I am lying in my hospital bed fighting a losing battle against cancer I will feel a sense of satisfaction knowing that this is the path I CHOSE. My only regret will be that I didn’t start dipping earlier in life. I will feel sorrow for my family’s heartbreak and suffer untold pain, but I know you must sacrifice for the things you truly love.

I know ALL the consequences of my actions and I accept them fully and without regret. I hereby choose to give my life to this addiction – I do so with a smile on face.

Signature: ____________________
Date: ____________________

For those of you  with a wad of cat shit in your mouth reading this not sure if you can do it , todays your day to grow a pair and sign up with December, If not feel free to print the above and hand it out to your loved ones
NICK-LTBE 266 days
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: stillbrewing on September 21, 2021, 04:36:27 PM
Contract To Give UpWhen you’re ready to give up your quit, print, and sign.

The Contract To Give Up

I give up my quit. Quitting is impossible and I cannot do it. I love dipping more than I love myself. I care about dipping more than I care about my personal health. I love dipping more than I love my family. I know this addiction will kill me, and I ACCEPT that fact. I enjoy spending time alone with my can more than I enjoy spending time with anyone else on the planet. I look forward to losing my jaw, my tongue, my throat, my life – it’s worth it. When I am lying in my hospital bed fighting a losing battle against cancer I will feel a sense of satisfaction knowing that this is the path I CHOSE. My only regret will be that I didn’t start dipping earlier in life. I will feel sorrow for my family’s heartbreak and suffer untold pain, but I know you must sacrifice for the things you truly love.

I know ALL the consequences of my actions and I accept them fully and without regret. I hereby choose to give my life to this addiction – I do so with a smile on face.

Signature: ____________________
Date: ____________________

For those of you  with a wad of cat shit in your mouth reading this not sure if you can do it , todays your day to grow a pair and sign up with December, If not feel free to print the above and hand it out to your loved ones
NICK-LTBE 266 days
657 days later...I still have this hanging above my desk at work.  Very powerful.  Thanks @nick-Otine Free (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=19005) !
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on September 22, 2021, 07:52:21 AM
Trials and Temptations

2 Consider it pure joy, my brothers and sisters, whenever you face trials of many kinds, 3 because you know that the testing of your faith produces perseverance. 4 Let perseverance finish its work so that you may be mature and complete, not lacking anything. 5 If any of you lacks wisdom, you should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to you. 6 But when you ask, you must believe and not doubt, because the one who doubts is like a wave of the sea, blown and tossed by the wind. 7 That person should not expect to receive anything from the Lord. 8 Such a person is double-minded and unstable in all they do.

9 Believers in humble circumstances ought to take pride in their high position. 10 But the rich should take pride in their humiliation—since they will pass away like a wild flower. 11 For the sun rises with scorching heat and withers the plant; its blossom falls and its beauty is destroyed. In the same way, the rich will fade away even while they go about their business.

12 Blessed is the one who perseveres under trial because, having stood the test, that person will receive the crown of life that the Lord has promised to those who love him.

13 When tempted, no one should say, “God is tempting me.” For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone


                                                                        James 1:1-13
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Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: bubblehed668 on September 22, 2021, 11:34:05 AM
Contract To Give UpWhen you’re ready to give up your quit, print, and sign.

The Contract To Give Up

I give up my quit. Quitting is impossible and I cannot do it. I love dipping more than I love myself. I care about dipping more than I care about my personal health. I love dipping more than I love my family. I know this addiction will kill me, and I ACCEPT that fact. I enjoy spending time alone with my can more than I enjoy spending time with anyone else on the planet. I look forward to losing my jaw, my tongue, my throat, my life – it’s worth it. When I am lying in my hospital bed fighting a losing battle against cancer I will feel a sense of satisfaction knowing that this is the path I CHOSE. My only regret will be that I didn’t start dipping earlier in life. I will feel sorrow for my family’s heartbreak and suffer untold pain, but I know you must sacrifice for the things you truly love.

I know ALL the consequences of my actions and I accept them fully and without regret. I hereby choose to give my life to this addiction – I do so with a smile on face.

Signature: ____________________
Date: ____________________

For those of you  with a wad of cat shit in your mouth reading this not sure if you can do it , todays your day to grow a pair and sign up with December, If not feel free to print the above and hand it out to your loved ones
NICK-LTBE 266 days

Still carry a copy of it in my wallet. Probably need a new unfaded, non sweat stained and fully readable copy to put in there now.
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: Keith0617 on September 22, 2021, 04:44:01 PM
Contract To Give UpWhen you’re ready to give up your quit, print, and sign.

The Contract To Give Up

I give up my quit. Quitting is impossible and I cannot do it. I love dipping more than I love myself. I care about dipping more than I care about my personal health. I love dipping more than I love my family. I know this addiction will kill me, and I ACCEPT that fact. I enjoy spending time alone with my can more than I enjoy spending time with anyone else on the planet. I look forward to losing my jaw, my tongue, my throat, my life – it’s worth it. When I am lying in my hospital bed fighting a losing battle against cancer I will feel a sense of satisfaction knowing that this is the path I CHOSE. My only regret will be that I didn’t start dipping earlier in life. I will feel sorrow for my family’s heartbreak and suffer untold pain, but I know you must sacrifice for the things you truly love.

I know ALL the consequences of my actions and I accept them fully and without regret. I hereby choose to give my life to this addiction – I do so with a smile on face.

Signature: ____________________
Date: ____________________

For those of you  with a wad of cat shit in your mouth reading this not sure if you can do it , todays your day to grow a pair and sign up with December, If not feel free to print the above and hand it out to your loved ones
NICK-LTBE 266 days

Still carry a copy of it in my wallet. Probably need a new unfaded, non sweat stained and fully readable copy to put in there now.
I also carry a copy in my wallet.
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on October 21, 2021, 07:54:10 AM
     Although Discord has , as Woody would say, "posioned the waterhole" i will hit up my intro a few more times. Something i feared while dipping was the visit to the dentist. I always brushed the hell out of my teeth before heading there, praying and hoping they would not notice my beat up gums and cheek. aint it funny, like a dentist is not gonna notice you chew! addicts are crazy man, they never really said anything but i always had the guilt and fear that one day they would tell me i had oral cancer, that i would need surgery because of possible gum reduction , that they would be pulling teeth next visit because of my lack of better judgment to suck on a cat turd. 

      Yesterday i had no such fear , maybe a little anxiety because you know we all think " maybe i quit to late" we never know for sure if were out of the woods (QUIT TODAY!). But more or less i walked in there proud, gave my dentist my day count as i proudly told her my year quit was coming up in December. She said my mouth has healed up amazing and i probably saved my teeth yearssss of future problems. I have always had 100% overbite but never wanted to correct it because even as a addict i figured my teeth and mouth were in a world of hurt down the road! ( never thought id quit and accepted that my teeth were gonna need pulled or gums fixed at some point, didnt care really that how deep nicotine addiction is!) But now with my freedom my Dentist recommend i get it straighten out, so with my new quit life im head to get orthodontics to get my mouth straighten out for good!

Quitting has  all the upside , Its a WIN WIN! you cant get those odds anywhere else in your life. ITs worth everything , if you swung in here first before you head over to the other site , know your best life starts today with the tossing of that shitty can!

I quit with you all EDD - Nick-296 LTBE
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on December 29, 2021, 03:25:31 PM
Nick-Free - 24-7-365 LTBE

What can i Say , The journey around the sun has  been a complicated one. The trials that come with this addiction are endless, up and down and up and down the CAN is always calling my name. But heres the thing, im the lucky one. I made up my mind 12.30.21 that i would chasing that POS can for the rest of my life. And the pain had brought me nothing but joy! through the suck I earn a badass quit team in my thunderbirds that rallied every time i needed them. a encore of vets that promised me death and destruction if i turn a blind eye to roll call. It brought about painful truths i had to confront about myself but were needed to grow. I would not have it any other way, Nicotine still calls my name EDD even a year in. But it can lick the backside of my balls because i allready know i kept my word 24/7/365 , the proof is in the pudding. If you wanna quit than do so, Get angry , and be a man/woman of your word. We all bitch and wine along the way its part of quitting, and the family here will help settle your score EDD if you follow such a simple process. Its not for the Weak and the "ill quit tomorrowers" its for the grid iron gang that can pull through hard times and pull help others even when you can barley help yourself. I used fake up to my HOF day 265 days ago, i chewed up to fill that void, now because of my quit im taking care of my mouth and i cant chew gum because of my invisalign braces. 4 weeks ive been completely free, and it sucks so good. I absoululty hate it but i know one day ill come to realize this was gods plan , baby steps until its just a blimp on my radar. there is no shame is asking for help, if you need it reach out ill talk you through the glorious suck! ITs a trial period that shows you what your made of, and every quitter that makes it through it is one BAD MOFO because we all know how easy a Day 1 is. Cheer brothers and sisters to a year in and many more to come, if your wondering if this site is for you the answer is yes if you know whats good for your life. got more positive outcomes in the last year than i have in the last 15 chewing! im the lucky one and you can be to. dont be a bitch, suck it up and lets go to work! see yall down the road at the next stop!
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: worktowin on January 13, 2022, 04:21:58 PM
Nick-Free - 24-7-365 LTBE

What can i Say , The journey around the sun has  been a complicated one. The trials that come with this addiction are endless, up and down and up and down the CAN is always calling my name. But heres the thing, im the lucky one. I made up my mind 12.30.21 that i would chasing that POS can for the rest of my life. And the pain had brought me nothing but joy! through the suck I earn a badass quit team in my thunderbirds that rallied every time i needed them. a encore of vets that promised me death and destruction if i turn a blind eye to roll call. It brought about painful truths i had to confront about myself but were needed to grow. I would not have it any other way, Nicotine still calls my name EDD even a year in. But it can lick the backside of my balls because i allready know i kept my word 24/7/365 , the proof is in the pudding. If you wanna quit than do so, Get angry , and be a man/woman of your word. We all bitch and wine along the way its part of quitting, and the family here will help settle your score EDD if you follow such a simple process. Its not for the Weak and the "ill quit tomorrowers" its for the grid iron gang that can pull through hard times and pull help others even when you can barley help yourself. I used fake up to my HOF day 265 days ago, i chewed up to fill that void, now because of my quit im taking care of my mouth and i cant chew gum because of my invisalign braces. 4 weeks ive been completely free, and it sucks so good. I absoululty hate it but i know one day ill come to realize this was gods plan , baby steps until its just a blimp on my radar. there is no shame is asking for help, if you need it reach out ill talk you through the glorious suck! ITs a trial period that shows you what your made of, and every quitter that makes it through it is one BAD MOFO because we all know how easy a Day 1 is. Cheer brothers and sisters to a year in and many more to come, if your wondering if this site is for you the answer is yes if you know whats good for your life. got more positive outcomes in the last year than i have in the last 15 chewing! im the lucky one and you can be to. dont be a bitch, suck it up and lets go to work! see yall down the road at the next stop!

So honored to quit with you, sir.  You are doing this the right way, and you have a lot of greatness ahead.  ODAAT.  You'll never catch up to me, but you will really like where you are going.
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on February 04, 2022, 03:30:10 PM
If your looking for a reason to kick that cat shit can to the curb or are struggling in your quit and wondering if KTC really is what it says it is than i hope this helps.

      Today i had to drive my buddy truck into work ( im a cheap ass, really need to buy one) because of bad weather. This snow storm brought about 9-12 inchs of snow so the roads were pretty bad off, level 3 type shit happ'en in my world. In the past the only thing that would calm my stress levels down was a big fatty. something about all that poison in there made me (feel) focused. Not today though! I didn't even think about chew and still had the same if not hyper focus the road conditions required. And better yet i was not risking my buddys truck and my life by reaching for a spitter and turning the cap every 5 minutes.

   The most important thing that happened is my buddy shot me a text to pick him up a can on my way home from work. I immediately felt uncomfortable. I thought, Man i have not bought a can of dip in 402 days, I also have not been inside of a gas station but maybe once since my quit ( so much easier to pay at the pump) one of the greatest perks and time savers of quitting in my opinion. walking in I could feel my fight or flight response, like you use to feel trying to buy alcohol underage . Im sure i looked like a frightened stooge standing there nervously trying to remember his style of chew since it was not what i would have bought. After a funny glance from the cashier i paid and got out of there. sitting in my car i could not feel like the most defeat person. hhahaha i felt so guilty like i let lots of people down. like i let myself down like a little kid.

The point im trying to make is that i didnt even use it and felt like a piece of shit ! thats the power of Brotherhood + Accountability ! that the power of this site. 402 days and i still want to hold my quit tight because of what this site has done for saving my life! Never want to let my Team down and i know alot of people look for my guidance !

Find your group and get on roll Every Damn Day  and you will be at 402 + days stacking wins, I quit with you all

Nick-Otine Free 402 LTBE

Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: DonkeyMN on February 04, 2022, 04:15:58 PM
If your looking for a reason to kick that cat shit can to the curb or are struggling in your quit and wondering if KTC really is what it says it is than i hope this helps.

      Today i had to drive my buddy truck into work ( im a cheap ass, really need to buy one) because of bad weather. This snow storm brought about 9-12 inchs of snow so the roads were pretty bad off, level 3 type shit happ'en in my world. In the past the only thing that would calm my stress levels down was a big fatty. something about all that poison in there made me (feel) focused. Not today though! I didn't even think about chew and still had the same if not hyper focus the road conditions required. And better yet i was not risking my buddys truck and my life by reaching for a spitter and turning the cap every 5 minutes.

   The most important thing that happened is my buddy shot me a text to pick him up a can on my way home from work. I immediately felt uncomfortable. I thought, Man i have not bought a can of dip in 402 days, I also have not been inside of a gas station but maybe once since my quit ( so much easier to pay at the pump) one of the greatest perks and time savers of quitting in my opinion. walking in I could feel my fight or flight response, like you use to feel trying to buy alcohol underage . Im sure i looked like a frightened stooge standing there nervously trying to remember his style of chew since it was not what i would have bought. After a funny glance from the cashier i paid and got out of there. sitting in my car i could not feel like the most defeat person. hhahaha i felt so guilty like i let lots of people down. like i let myself down like a little kid.

The point im trying to make is that i didnt even use it and felt like a piece of shit ! thats the power of Brotherhood + Accountability ! that the power of this site. 402 days and i still want to hold my quit tight because of what this site has done for saving my life! Never want to let my Team down and i know alot of people look for my guidance !

Find your group and get on roll Every Damn Day  and you will be at 402 + days stacking wins, I quit with you all

Nick-Otine Free 402 LTBE

QWU today man.  Now give that can of shit to your buddy and tell him you took a piss in it.
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on March 31, 2022, 02:44:36 PM
Quote from: mikegooch

I just posted this in Kjsylva82's "scared as hell" feed... I thought some of you other newbies would like to know what is waiting for you if you don't keep posting roll...

I've had 5 gum grafts (maybe more? I have honestly lost count).. they are painful as hell... they never put me to sleep when I get them.. they lay your ass back in a dentists chair under a bright ass light.. you have to keep your mouth wide open for an eternity.. after a while your jaws cramp so damn bad you have to take breaks.. they will give you a lot of numbing agent at first in the roof of your mouth and in your gums on both sides (inside  outside of your gums) because the stitches go all the way through your gums.. the first few shots are really the only ones that actually hurt, because after that it is numb.. There are several bad parts of this procedure.. my least favorite is when they cut the hunk of skin out of the roof of your mouth.. they pretty much have you blind folded and your numb as hell.. still you can tell because the dr says "open wide".. the scalpel goes into the roof of your mouth and you immediately taste blood.. because it runs into the back of your throat.. (this is one good thing about being a dipper.. we have an auto shut off back there and we can block from swallowing!) after the dr. makes the first few slices there.. eventually they have to saw the hunk of skin off  THIS IS THE PART I HATE.. your head moves with the sawing action! by this time they have already completely pulled  scraped what is left of your gums in the bottom away from your teeth as to put the newly cut piece from the roof of your mouth.. this next part irks the shit out of me.. my dr always lays the hunk of skin from the roof of my mouth on my shoulder until she is ready to put it into place.. then.. finally when she is ready.. the hunk of meat from the roof of my mouth.. it is tightly packed between my old gum (whats left of it)  my teeth.. then it is stitched into place.. with a rather large needle that goes all the way through your teeth and gums and back around to neatly sew the new hunk of gum into place.. the entire time this is happening the assistant is sucking blood from your mouth and throat with a large tube.. under the blindfold you can see massive amounts of blood going through the tube.. once were done.. a piece of plastic called a stint is placed in the roof of your mouth, to keep you from bleeding.. for the next week or so it is very soft food and eating on one side of your mouth.. very slowly and carefully not to rip anything away from the gum or hit the roof of your mouth.. you are incredibly swollen and sore for a few days..often during the 1st few nights you bleed from the roof of your mouth while sleeping and gag on bloodÂ… now just imagine being so addicted that within hours of leaving this surgeryÂ… you want to dip so badly that you put a dip into your top lip just to get your nic fix.. you have to do it just right.. any sucking action and you will unclot the roof of your mouth and bleed out like a stuck hog.. Never has a gum graft surgery ever stopped me from dipping.. only when I got tired of all the shit did I stop.. when I got tired of being a fucking slave and paying big money to be the slave. Today even though its only been 12 days.. I still want to dip a few times a day.. but you know what.. I donÂ’t have to! Gone are the days when I have a surgery and I cannot even make it through the rest of the day and I have to pack that shit into my top lip to get the fix.. tell me I am not an addict! I am totally an addict.. if you are here.. guess what?? You probably are too. Today I am so thankful.. I do not have to dip! The nic bitch has lost her fucking power today boys.. I respect the shit out of her because I know what she can do to me.. but today I say no thanks.. actually I say Fuck You and all the pain that comes with you.. I am free today! Thanks fellas! Gooch @mikegooch (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=6876)



found this deep in some intro reads. i would add but enough is said above, NO EXCUSES, JUST QUIT! Jump on in the Quittin is fine!
Nic-Free-457 days and thankful for the message above! ill never need one of those horrendous gum grafts!
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on April 01, 2022, 11:18:48 AM
I would seriously suggest you dig out your quit plan, blow the dust off it, and throw it away. That quit plan got you guys to 100. Now it's time to make a plan to get you to 200, or better yet, to 365 and beyond. Eh...that's not possible. The plan should be reviewed every once in a while. I challenge you to do it. You want to quit and STAY quit? Then making a STAY QUIT plan. What you have now is a GET quit plan.

Your STAY QUIT plan really needs to include CHANGES in your life. You've stopped something, so you now need to start something. It's only natural. And again...if you don't control what you start, you're addictive personality will. Make a list of several things you can start or put more focus and energy into. This way at least one of them will take off. Quote from @Leave_notrace (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=12165)
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on May 13, 2022, 08:17:35 AM
Time to Dust of this intro a bit. 500 Days of quit

     1 thing you never realize is how long it takes to heal from years of self poisoning. When I started out my quit I estimated I should be clear to go after a months time. Boyyyyy was I Wrong! After joining KTC I come to the conclusion that I was going to need a battle plan. I new I was going to have to set Quit goals to even have a shot at this new found freedom. Once I got zapped with that awful and foggy funk around 95 days quit I new 3 months was only a blimp on the radar of quitting and journey towards independence. So I set out a 6 month goal, Once there I again was feeling the effects of the damage done years past. That 200 funk hit me around 175 days quit and the actual agitation of that phase lasted well into my 200's. This could be do to season change change as well, summer time camping, camp fires, outdoor activity's and sunlight (for us Northerners) was great but hard welcome.
     
     After that i felt pretty good leading up to my year mark. 365 was a huge win for my quit, but it i was still craving hard and I (like a lot of people) started asking myself "Will this ever end?" , "Is it worth this annoyance?" , "Will it be like this forever?" My addiction wanted me to come back, but my mind new better (Thanks to KTC and the tools I learned those first 100 days). I Pushed on with the help of my April Thunderbirds, The encouragement from vets who text me daily still, and the need to pay it forward to the new foggy brained bastard looking for a way to win as well.

     I really started to feel my stride around the 480 mark and 500 has never felt so good. Its getting sooooooo much better as each quit goal is crushed and I'm well on my way to being a 15%ers (2 year mark statistic). It takes a brass pair to quit cold turkey, its not rainbows and butterfly's by any sense of the imagination and there are some really dark days but its worth everything once your on the other side reaching down to help the next guy see the light, you also get to see the respect shine in other peoples eyes as they wish they could overcome their own addiction as well.

                                    My 500 advice rephrased off of something I read a little while ago:
" Being a successful quitter takes work and dedication, Its about being the type of person who doesn't miss roll. Its easy to WUPP your first 100 days when your in the suck, But its crucial to show up when your feeling great, even if its only posting 1 time in your group and logging of for the day. Getting on roll EDD for 2 seconds may not look like much, but it reaffirms your Quit" The programming is what I'm after, I make a conscious effort every morning, Am I winner or am I a looser? What do winners do on the hard days? THEY SHOW UP! If your reading this and planning to quit, TOSS THAT SHIT AND LFG!!!!! if your a new post HOF guy , GET AFTER IT and STAY AFTER IT!

Nick-Otine Free- 500 days of pure quit. LTBE, yesterday is long gone, tomorrow may never come, so today, Let your quit be enough.

0-100 days of quit: your in the shit/suck/trench's, lots of hard days sprinkled with some really cool fresh breath of air before you push on to your HOF day. Exercise it critical, magnesium and Ashwagandha vitamins before bed help get you some much needed sleep. Probiotics help alot for gut issues as well I used Kefir brand for a week or so. that 70s funk is a huge ass surprise and derails lots of quits. I almost lost mine from days 85-95. I also quit dipping fake on my HOF day and switched to sugar free gum. theres no way around these hard times, Through is the only option, no it now, accept it, grab a pair and get it done.

100-200 days of quit: Can get lonely, your kind of on your own now, Us vets kinda push you out of the nest to encourage you to fly, not as many people post roll with you, group members start to drop like flys. There is a 200 funk that hit me around 170- 250 days quit actually. it was a trying time but I had the honor of being a conductor to keep me my mind busy from the cravings. But your group its and your quit line are extremely important during this phase. hopefully your in a group text with your fellow team and also having vets telling you there is hope if you get make it through the day. may sound simple but it means everything when the nic bitch is whispering. our brains are finally starting to realize you in this thing for a long haul so lots of psychological warfare happens upstairs.be patient , this to shall pass.

200-300 day of Quit: Honestly you start feeling pretty good during this phase, your craving start to become less and less. It makes you wanna start being complacent. your start day dreaming that you may be cured. you start to wonder if you slip away from your responsibility , word, and WUPP that maybe no one will care. and if a few do so what, maybe you can try this thing on your own again ( what kept me in it was the remembrance of all the times I tried to stop dipping in the past, I could never do it alone, KTC is the only thing that got me this far so like the saying goes " if it aint broke dont fix it". ) had a week long crave around 260ish so this pickle kept on keeping on. don't fool yourself during this time thinking you got it whipped, YOU DONT KEEP PUSHING!

300-400 day of quit: You start to get that thumping in your chest, could it be that year mark ringing in the back ground? Its puts a smile on your face when you reach this quit goal! you feel like the king of the mountain. Never had you thought you would make it this far. I had once in the past only to fail shortly after so I was excited to surf uncharted waters. I did have a weird rage moment in my 320s and a couple splatters of craves throughout  this 100 but all in all it was not to bad. Once 365 hits you see even more group members fade away and even worse stop texting back. Its sad to see so many piss away all the hard work they put into becoming a better person. this is also the stage where you feel a bit more confident and start to improve other areas of your life. Quitting is contagious just dont let your hat get to big, seen lots of quitters cave around this time as well. WUPP and just stating in your group that you feel like shit that day makes all the difference. ROME was not built in day, you did not undo years of dipping in 400 days, dont be naïve and stick the course!

400-500  days of quit: This was a strange time in my quit, I actually had a couple weekends where craves were almost watering my eyes (again maybe summer time) but i did actually have a back up can of fake for emergency issues as this and dipped fake for about 2 weeks for this first time since my HOF day. But for the first time my brain was finally telling me you got this. the rewiring worked, all the blood,sweat,tears i put into this quit finally paying off! the WUPP EDD pushed me to keep my word and allow no wiggle room for that dirty nic bitch! around 480 it hit me like a wave of mamas fresh biscuits! I have loads of quitters digits and i still text vets, tweens, and newbs daily to make sure I'm leaving no stone unturned. As Henry Ford said " Whether you Think you CAN or Think you CANT,....You're Right!" Jump First and grow wings on the way down man! There is hope for you, im resting here at this Half dangle but im not sold on the idea i wont be challenged in the future, " When the devil ignore you, then you know your doing something wrong, conversely , when the devil comes at you, maybe its because your trying to do something right"

 
     
     
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on February 03, 2023, 10:21:23 AM
Life is short, shorter than we think. If your reading this it means your in withdraw trying to find a way through the suck or wishing you had some sort of freedom in your life that is not controlled by big tobacco. Don't ever think it cant be done. Humans are resilient! join your new group in Discord and we will guide you to the life you so desperately  seek.  But you got to want it. drink all the KTC kool-aid . people bitch about vets scaring people off at times... those that truly have quit no this is a Excuse to not accept accountability and skirt the system back to their pathetic can. We Quit for ourselves first and foremost and we no the hard line has to be drawn to defeat the demon that once stained our fingers. Its a take no prisoner process, LETS change your life, you wont find a more caring batch of strangers any where else. Hell sometimes it feels like they care more about my quit than i do . and im a stone cold quitten sum bitch!

here i am folks 766 days of freedom from the can. and i owe it nothing more than writing a silly number on a line first thing in the morning for a bunch of randoms to judge and persecute should it not be on the line the next day.... IT WORKS!

Nic-free LTBE
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: worktowin on February 07, 2023, 10:42:36 PM
You are winning, bro. You started this process the right way, all in. Made friends, traded numbers, and took no excuses. It’s an honor to have you in my corner.
Life is short, shorter than we think. If you’re reading this it means you’re in withdraw trying to find a way through the suck or wishing you had some sort of freedom in your life that is not controlled by big tobacco. Don't ever think it cant be done. Humans are resilient! join your new group in Discord and we will guide you to the life you so desperately  seek.  But you got to want it. drink all the KTC kool-aid . people bitch about vets scaring people off at times... those that truly have quit no this is a Excuse to not accept accountability and skirt the system back to their pathetic can. We Quit for ourselves first and foremost and we no the hard line has to be drawn to defeat the demon that once stained our fingers. It’s a take no prisoner process, LETS change your life, you wont find a more caring batch of strangers any where else. Hell sometimes it feels like they care more about my quit than i do . and im a stone cold quitten sum bitch!

here i am folks 766 days of freedom from the can. and i owe it nothing more than writing a silly number on a line first thing in the morning for a bunch of randoms to judge and persecute should it not be on the line the next day.... IT WORKS!

Nic-free LTBE
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: Athan on March 09, 2023, 10:38:38 AM
Anyone seen Hundy? I heard nick-Otine Free ate him. That's right...nick-Otine Free ate Hundy!
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: worktowin on September 25, 2023, 09:44:58 AM
Nick, giant congratulations to you today, your 1,000th day in a row of winning!  It is an honor to quit with you.  From the time you joined this site you embodied the values of brotherhood & accountability, and you've been winning ever since.  It hasn't been easy - there have been tough days, but now you are entering a time where winning gets easier.  Congratulations, sir, and thank you for including so many of us on your ride to freedom.

Michael/worktowin
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: AppleJack on September 25, 2023, 10:01:59 AM
Nick, giant congratulations to you today, your 1,000th day in a row of winning!  It is an honor to quit with you.  From the time you joined this site you embodied the values of brotherhood & accountability, and you've been winning ever since.  It hasn't been easy - there have been tough days, but now you are entering a time where winning gets easier.  Congratulations, sir, and thank you for including so many of us on your ride to freedom.

Michael/worktowin
This. Is. Amazing!
Well done, my brutha… well done!
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: zav3nd on September 25, 2023, 10:57:55 AM
Congrats on the triple zeros!
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: MN_Engineer on September 25, 2023, 11:40:34 AM
With great dangle comes great responsibility; enjoy your shiny new comma!
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: Athan on September 25, 2023, 11:51:25 AM
Nick, giant congratulations to you today, your 1,000th day in a row of winning!  It is an honor to quit with you.  From the time you joined this site you embodied the values of brotherhood & accountability, and you've been winning ever since.  It hasn't been easy - there have been tough days, but now you are entering a time where winning gets easier.  Congratulations, sir, and thank you for including so many of us on your ride to freedom.

Michael/worktowin
This. Is. Amazing!
Well done, my brutha… well done!
could not have said it any better! So very pleased that you came along and added value to so many. Hats off to you!
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: Keith0617 on September 25, 2023, 01:41:24 PM
Nick, giant congratulations to you today, your 1,000th day in a row of winning!  It is an honor to quit with you.  From the time you joined this site you embodied the values of brotherhood & accountability, and you've been winning ever since.  It hasn't been easy - there have been tough days, but now you are entering a time where winning gets easier.  Congratulations, sir, and thank you for including so many of us on your ride to freedom.

Michael/worktowin
This. Is. Amazing!
Well done, my brutha… well done!
could not have said it any better! So very pleased that you came along and added value to so many. Hats off to you!
huge congrats @nick-Otine Free (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=19005) freaking awesome on 1k
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: BBQchips on September 25, 2023, 03:17:51 PM
Nick, giant congratulations to you today, your 1,000th day in a row of winning!  It is an honor to quit with you.  From the time you joined this site you embodied the values of brotherhood & accountability, and you've been winning ever since.  It hasn't been easy - there have been tough days, but now you are entering a time where winning gets easier.  Congratulations, sir, and thank you for including so many of us on your ride to freedom.

Michael/worktowin
This. Is. Amazing!
Well done, my brutha… well done!
could not have said it any better! So very pleased that you came along and added value to so many. Hats off to you!
huge congrats @nick-Otine Free (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=19005) freaking awesome on 1k
@nick-Otine Free (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=19005) MANY try to stand where you are today, but more fail. It’s a huge testament to will power you are here. PTQWYT brother!
Title: Re: The Quit.
Post by: nick-Otine Free on September 27, 2023, 05:12:31 AM
Nick, giant congratulations to you today, your 1,000th day in a row of winning!  It is an honor to quit with you.  From the time you joined this site you embodied the values of brotherhood & accountability, and you've been winning ever since.  It hasn't been easy - there have been tough days, but now you are entering a time where winning gets easier.  Congratulations, sir, and thank you for including so many of us on your ride to freedom.

Michael/worktowin
This. Is. Amazing!
Well done, my brutha… well done!
could not have said it any better! So very pleased that you came along and added value to so many. Hats off to you!
huge congrats @nick-Otine Free (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=19005) freaking awesome on 1k
@nick-Otine Free (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=19005) MANY try to stand where you are today, but more fail. It’s a huge testament to will power you are here. PTQWYT brother!
@BBQchips (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=193) , @Athan (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=258) , @Keith0617 (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1356) , @AppleJack (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=710) , @worktowin (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=436)  thanks so much my brothers! I have looked up to you all at one time or another to help me get through a day. I wish these intros and HOF were on discord because they really do help quitters. It’s a honor to be here with you all and though the nic bitch whispers at times it’s the ass whoopin from y’all that keeps me kicken ! Lol thanks again team I really do mean it