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Title: "Dad you eat Dirt" (4 year old daughter)
Post by: moka2620 on September 05, 2013, 10:08:00 AM
Hi my name is Brad. I have made the decision the nic bitch can no longer run my life. I am 35 and I have been dipping for 15 years, Kodiak. It actually surprises me to think how long it has been and apart of my life. And I sit here and ask why? What benefit am I getting from having a dip? I really couldn't tell you but some bogus replies. The reality is I decided to quit yesterday because I had a sore throat and had a dentist appt. yesterday. For me when i get a sore throat I fear cancer and you see the pictures and it scares the hell out of me. The impact it could have on my life and my families. I don't want to tell my girls that I was too selfish and couldn't find the will power to quit. Losing your jaw, teeth. etc. Yesterday I told the Dentist to give it to me straight and the effects I am having on my gums.  As fyi in past years I told him I don't want to know and if he did I wouldn't come back. The reason was just shame knowing I was being controlled by my nicotine addiction. Well he told me of my severe erosion of my gum line, significant gum disease, and gingivitis. That continued use will lead to continual worst conditions that I don't even want to know about. I am not immune to the effects to dipping, none of us are.

I am going to stand up to the nic bitch! I am ready to move forward with my brothers and sisters. I look forward to saving $40 a week, $2000 a year, a clean car, to kissing my wife without the fear she knows, not having dip in my teeth, finding a spitter, improving my dental hygiene, reducing the risk of cancer, dip on my clothes, smell of dip in my car, the reputation from my friends waiting for me to throw in a big fatty, daily trips to the gas station, tasting food, and a life of freedom!

I look forward to joining the group and hearing feedback, reading the stories, blogs and supporting everyone's quit. We can do this one day at a time.
Title: Re: "Dad you eat Dirt" (4 year old daughter)
Post by: kana on September 05, 2013, 10:17:00 AM
Quote from: moka2620
Hi my name is Brad. I have made the decision the nic bitch can no longer run my life. I am 35 and I have been dipping for 15 years, Kodiak. It actually surprises me to think how long it has been and apart of my life. And I sit here and ask why? What benefit am I getting from having a dip? I really couldn't tell you but some bogus replies. The reality is I decided to quit yesterday because I had a sore throat and had a dentist appt. yesterday. For me when i get a sore throat I fear cancer and you see the pictures and it scares the hell out of me. The impact it could have on my life and my families. I don't want to tell my girls that I was too selfish and couldn't find the will power to quit. Losing your jaw, teeth. etc. Yesterday I told the Dentist to give it to me straight and the effects I am having on my gums. As fyi in past years I told him I don't want to know and if he did I wouldn't come back. The reason was just shame knowing I was being controlled by my nicotine addiction. Well he told me of my severe erosion of my gum line, significant gum disease, and gingivitis. That continued use will lead to continual worst conditions that I don't even want to know about. I am not immune to the effects to dipping, none of us are.

I am going to stand up to the nic bitch! I am ready to move forward with my brothers and sisters. I look forward to saving $40 a week, $2000 a year, a clean car, to kissing my wife without the fear she knows, not having dip in my teeth, finding a spitter, improving my dental hygiene, reducing the risk of cancer, dip on my clothes, smell of dip in my car, the reputation from my friends waiting for me to throw in a big fatty, daily trips to the gas station, tasting food, and a life of freedom!

I look forward to joining the group and hearing feedback, reading the stories, blogs and supporting everyone's quit. We can do this one day at a time.
Welcome.. The best decision you'll ever make.. If you haven't already, read the salmon color welcome center, and learn how to post. Posting EVERYDAY saved my life.. I'm at 396 days of freedom.. I dipped for 30+ years, tried to quit 100 times, and this is the only thing that worked for me. PM me if you need any help getting started. READ, READ, READ....peace
Title: Re: "Dad you eat Dirt" (4 year old daughter)
Post by: Bean on September 05, 2013, 10:22:00 AM
OUT-FUCKING-STANDING!!! Now, all you need to do is click on the Welcome Center link above and start reading. Learn how to Post Roll. That is you daily promise to go without nicotine for today...and only for today.

See, we don't "quit forever" here...that is too hard. In fact, don't think about forever, next month, next week or even tomorrow. Just focus on today. Anybody can go one little day, right? Well that is all we're doing her. You just post your promise that come Hell or high water you WILL NOT put nicotine in your body today, then you fight like your life depends on it (because it does) all day to keep your word.

Congrats on a great choice, brother. YOU GOT THIS!!!
Title: Re: "Dad you eat Dirt" (4 year old daughter)
Post by: B-loMatt on September 05, 2013, 10:22:00 AM
Quote from: kana
Quote from: moka2620
Hi my name is Brad.  I have made the decision the nic bitch can no longer run my life.  I am 35 and I have been dipping for 15 years, Kodiak.  It actually surprises me to think how long it has been and apart of my life.  And I sit here and ask why?  What benefit am I getting from having a dip?  I really couldn't tell you but some bogus replies.  The reality is I decided to quit yesterday because I had a sore throat and had a dentist appt. yesterday. For me when i get a sore throat I fear cancer and you see the pictures and it scares the hell out of me.  The impact it could have on my life and my families.  I don't want to tell my girls that I was too selfish and couldn't find the will power to quit.  Losing your jaw, teeth. etc.  Yesterday I told the Dentist to give it to me straight and the effects I am having on my gums.  As fyi in past years I told him I don't want to know and if he did I wouldn't come back.  The reason was just shame knowing I was being controlled by my nicotine addiction.  Well he told me of my severe erosion of my gum line, significant gum disease, and gingivitis.  That continued use will lead to continual worst conditions that I don't even want to know about.  I am not immune to the effects to dipping, none of us are. 

I am going to stand up to the nic bitch!  I am ready to move forward with my brothers and sisters.  I look forward to saving $40 a week, $2000 a year, a clean car, to kissing my wife without the fear she knows, not having dip in my teeth, finding a spitter, improving my dental hygiene, reducing the risk of cancer, dip on my clothes, smell of dip in my car, the reputation from my friends waiting for me to throw in a big fatty, daily trips to the gas station, tasting food, and a life of freedom! 

I look forward to joining the group and hearing feedback, reading the stories, blogs and supporting everyone's quit.  We can do this one day at a time.
Welcome.. The best decision you'll ever make.. If you haven't already, read the salmon color welcome center, and learn how to post. Posting EVERYDAY saved my life.. I'm at 396 days of freedom.. I dipped for 30+ years, tried to quit 100 times, and this is the only thing that worked for me. PM me if you need any help getting started. READ, READ, READ....peace
What kana said! Read everything here. Post roll, get all the knowledge about our enemy (nic) and get involved. KTC can help you quit, but you need to take ownership. Sounds like you are where I was 101 days ago. The fight will be hard, but it is so worth it, and it gets better. PM me if you need anything.
Title: Re: "Dad you eat Dirt" (4 year old daughter)
Post by: bafloyd on September 05, 2013, 10:36:00 AM
Quote from: moka2620
Hi my name is Brad. I have made the decision the nic bitch can no longer run my life. I am 35 and I have been dipping for 15 years, Kodiak. It actually surprises me to think how long it has been and apart of my life. And I sit here and ask why? What benefit am I getting from having a dip? I really couldn't tell you but some bogus replies. The reality is I decided to quit yesterday because I had a sore throat and had a dentist appt. yesterday. For me when i get a sore throat I fear cancer and you see the pictures and it scares the hell out of me. The impact it could have on my life and my families. I don't want to tell my girls that I was too selfish and couldn't find the will power to quit. Losing your jaw, teeth. etc. Yesterday I told the Dentist to give it to me straight and the effects I am having on my gums. As fyi in past years I told him I don't want to know and if he did I wouldn't come back. The reason was just shame knowing I was being controlled by my nicotine addiction. Well he told me of my severe erosion of my gum line, significant gum disease, and gingivitis. That continued use will lead to continual worst conditions that I don't even want to know about. I am not immune to the effects to dipping, none of us are.

I am going to stand up to the nic bitch! I am ready to move forward with my brothers and sisters. I look forward to saving $40 a week, $2000 a year, a clean car, to kissing my wife without the fear she knows, not having dip in my teeth, finding a spitter, improving my dental hygiene, reducing the risk of cancer, dip on my clothes, smell of dip in my car, the reputation from my friends waiting for me to throw in a big fatty, daily trips to the gas station, tasting food, and a life of freedom!

I look forward to joining the group and hearing feedback, reading the stories, blogs and supporting everyone's quit. We can do this one day at a time.
Hey Brad, nice to have you along for the quit. I'm 3 days quit myself and relate to what your intro said, as I'm sure many more here do. I'm not one to give great advice right now, but I can say that reminding yourself of why you chose to quit, and coming here to read and post when you get anxious (like I am right now) is a great tool.
Title: Re: "Dad you eat Dirt" (4 year old daughter)
Post by: Minny on September 05, 2013, 10:42:00 AM
Quote from: bafloyd
Quote from: moka2620
Hi my name is Brad.  I have made the decision the nic bitch can no longer run my life.  I am 35 and I have been dipping for 15 years, Kodiak.  It actually surprises me to think how long it has been and apart of my life.  And I sit here and ask why?  What benefit am I getting from having a dip?  I really couldn't tell you but some bogus replies.  The reality is I decided to quit yesterday because I had a sore throat and had a dentist appt. yesterday. For me when i get a sore throat I fear cancer and you see the pictures and it scares the hell out of me.  The impact it could have on my life and my families.  I don't want to tell my girls that I was too selfish and couldn't find the will power to quit.  Losing your jaw, teeth. etc.  Yesterday I told the Dentist to give it to me straight and the effects I am having on my gums.  As fyi in past years I told him I don't want to know and if he did I wouldn't come back.  The reason was just shame knowing I was being controlled by my nicotine addiction.  Well he told me of my severe erosion of my gum line, significant gum disease, and gingivitis.  That continued use will lead to continual worst conditions that I don't even want to know about.  I am not immune to the effects to dipping, none of us are. 

I am going to stand up to the nic bitch!  I am ready to move forward with my brothers and sisters.  I look forward to saving $40 a week, $2000 a year, a clean car, to kissing my wife without the fear she knows, not having dip in my teeth, finding a spitter, improving my dental hygiene, reducing the risk of cancer, dip on my clothes, smell of dip in my car, the reputation from my friends waiting for me to throw in a big fatty, daily trips to the gas station, tasting food, and a life of freedom! 

I look forward to joining the group and hearing feedback, reading the stories, blogs and supporting everyone's quit.  We can do this one day at a time.
Hey Brad, nice to have you along for the quit. I'm 3 days quit myself and relate to what your intro said, as I'm sure many more here do. I'm not one to give great advice right now, but I can say that reminding yourself of why you chose to quit, and coming here to read and post when you get anxious (like I am right now) is a great tool.
Brad, you just inspired the hell out of me. Excellent job, bro.

You think you are going to be proud when you look at your daughters and kiss your wife knowing that you quit poisoning yourself? You have no idea how great it is.

Bafloyd, you kick ass. Keep it up.

ODAAT!
Title: Re: "Dad you eat Dirt" (4 year old daughter)
Post by: Nolaq on September 05, 2013, 10:51:00 AM
Quote from: moka2620
Hi my name is Brad. I have made the decision the nic bitch can no longer run my life. I am 35 and I have been dipping for 15 years, Kodiak. It actually surprises me to think how long it has been and apart of my life. And I sit here and ask why? What benefit am I getting from having a dip? I really couldn't tell you but some bogus replies. The reality is I decided to quit yesterday because I had a sore throat and had a dentist appt. yesterday. For me when i get a sore throat I fear cancer and you see the pictures and it scares the hell out of me. The impact it could have on my life and my families. I don't want to tell my girls that I was too selfish and couldn't find the will power to quit. Losing your jaw, teeth. etc. Yesterday I told the Dentist to give it to me straight and the effects I am having on my gums. As fyi in past years I told him I don't want to know and if he did I wouldn't come back. The reason was just shame knowing I was being controlled by my nicotine addiction. Well he told me of my severe erosion of my gum line, significant gum disease, and gingivitis. That continued use will lead to continual worst conditions that I don't even want to know about. I am not immune to the effects to dipping, none of us are.

I am going to stand up to the nic bitch! I am ready to move forward with my brothers and sisters. I look forward to saving $40 a week, $2000 a year, a clean car, to kissing my wife without the fear she knows, not having dip in my teeth, finding a spitter, improving my dental hygiene, reducing the risk of cancer, dip on my clothes, smell of dip in my car, the reputation from my friends waiting for me to throw in a big fatty, daily trips to the gas station, tasting food, and a life of freedom!

I look forward to joining the group and hearing feedback, reading the stories, blogs and supporting everyone's quit. We can do this one day at a time.
Glad to see you finally getting your shit together. I see you joined a while ago, and have 20+ posts.

What happened before, and where ya been?
Title: Re: "Dad you eat Dirt" (4 year old daughter)
Post by: wmcatty on September 05, 2013, 10:52:00 AM
Congratulations and Welcome Aboard. You will have a tough time for the next few days, but remember this: No one has ever died from giving up nicotine. Now, you may feel like it sometimes at first, but power through it. You have 16,000 brothers and sisters in here that will support you all day and night, but you have to do your part. Get telephone numbers of those in your December 2013 quit group and use those numbers to call a brother when things look kind of shitty or you just need to vent, rage or just talk to someone about this. We have been where you are at...and we know what you are going through. Look in the upper right hand corner of this page and you will see Inbox (1). Open it up and you will see a message from me. It is my telephone number. Call me and lets get this party started!. Wayne
Title: Re: "Dad you eat Dirt" (4 year old daughter)
Post by: Texas22 on September 05, 2013, 11:36:00 AM
Welcome Brad!

I am also 3 days Quit! Not too much advice from my side other than read read read!

Read every post when you have a crave or when you are foggy (as I am now).

These guys are fucking amazing here and they will help you out! PM me if I can help!

Texas22
Title: Re: "Dad you eat Dirt" (4 year old daughter)
Post by: billybill3934 on September 05, 2013, 12:31:00 PM
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: kana
Quote from: moka2620
Hi my name is Brad.  I have made the decision the nic bitch can no longer run my life.   I am 35 and I have been dipping for 15 years, Kodiak.  It actually surprises me to think how long it has been and apart of my life.  And I sit here and ask why?  What benefit am I getting from having a dip?  I really couldn't tell you but some bogus replies.  The reality is I decided to quit yesterday because I had a sore throat and had a dentist appt. yesterday. For me when i get a sore throat I fear cancer and you see the pictures and it scares the hell out of me.  The impact it could have on my life and my families.  I don't want to tell my girls that I was too selfish and couldn't find the will power to quit.  Losing your jaw, teeth. etc.  Yesterday I told the Dentist to give it to me straight and the effects I am having on my gums.  As fyi in past years I told him I don't want to know and if he did I wouldn't come back.  The reason was just shame knowing I was being controlled by my nicotine addiction.  Well he told me of my severe erosion of my gum line, significant gum disease, and gingivitis.  That continued use will lead to continual worst conditions that I don't even want to know about.  I am not immune to the effects to dipping, none of us are. 

I am going to stand up to the nic bitch!  I am ready to move forward with my brothers and sisters.  I look forward to saving $40 a week, $2000 a year, a clean car, to kissing my wife without the fear she knows, not having dip in my teeth, finding a spitter, improving my dental hygiene, reducing the risk of cancer, dip on my clothes, smell of dip in my car, the reputation from my friends waiting for me to throw in a big fatty, daily trips to the gas station, tasting food, and a life of freedom! 

I look forward to joining the group and hearing feedback, reading the stories, blogs and supporting everyone's quit.  We can do this one day at a time.
Welcome.. The best decision you'll ever make.. If you haven't already, read the salmon color welcome center, and learn how to post. Posting EVERYDAY saved my life.. I'm at 396 days of freedom.. I dipped for 30+ years, tried to quit 100 times, and this is the only thing that worked for me. PM me if you need any help getting started. READ, READ, READ....peace
What kana said! Read everything here. Post roll, get all the knowledge about our enemy (nic) and get involved. KTC can help you quit, but you need to take ownership. Sounds like you are where I was 101 days ago. The fight will be hard, but it is so worth it, and it gets better. PM me if you need anything.
Hey Brad, Lets get you started on this quitting thing. I see your joiin date is from 2012 and you have 23 posts, have you tried this before or something? Whatever the case may be we are all here to quit together and the recipe is simple...Post Roll as early as possible EVERY DAY, make some friends on here, and drink up the KTC Kool AID which means be as gung HO as possible!

Kick the Nic bitch square in the nuts for me will ya?

Bill
CLICK HERE TO PM ME (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?act=Msg&CODE=4&MID=15708)
Title: Re: "Dad you eat Dirt" (4 year old daughter)
Post by: Nolaq on September 05, 2013, 01:46:00 PM
Quote from: Nolaq
Quote from: moka2620
Hi my name is Brad.  I have made the decision the nic bitch can no longer run my life.  I am 35 and I have been dipping for 15 years, Kodiak.  It actually surprises me to think how long it has been and apart of my life.  And I sit here and ask why?  What benefit am I getting from having a dip?  I really couldn't tell you but some bogus replies.  The reality is I decided to quit yesterday because I had a sore throat and had a dentist appt. yesterday. For me when i get a sore throat I fear cancer and you see the pictures and it scares the hell out of me.  The impact it could have on my life and my families.  I don't want to tell my girls that I was too selfish and couldn't find the will power to quit.  Losing your jaw, teeth. etc.  Yesterday I told the Dentist to give it to me straight and the effects I am having on my gums.  As fyi in past years I told him I don't want to know and if he did I wouldn't come back.  The reason was just shame knowing I was being controlled by my nicotine addiction.  Well he told me of my severe erosion of my gum line, significant gum disease, and gingivitis.  That continued use will lead to continual worst conditions that I don't even want to know about.  I am not immune to the effects to dipping, none of us are. 

I am going to stand up to the nic bitch!  I am ready to move forward with my brothers and sisters.  I look forward to saving $40 a week, $2000 a year, a clean car, to kissing my wife without the fear she knows, not having dip in my teeth, finding a spitter, improving my dental hygiene, reducing the risk of cancer, dip on my clothes, smell of dip in my car, the reputation from my friends waiting for me to throw in a big fatty, daily trips to the gas station, tasting food, and a life of freedom! 

I look forward to joining the group and hearing feedback, reading the stories, blogs and supporting everyone's quit.  We can do this one day at a time.
Glad to see you finally getting your shit together. I see you joined a while ago, and have 20+ posts.

What happened before, and where ya been?
:ph43r:
Title: Re: "Dad you eat Dirt" (4 year old daughter)
Post by: Nolaq on September 05, 2013, 01:55:00 PM
Quote from: Nolaq
Quote from: Nolaq
Quote from: moka2620
Hi my name is Brad.  I have made the decision the nic bitch can no longer run my life.   I am 35 and I have been dipping for 15 years, Kodiak.  It actually surprises me to think how long it has been and apart of my life.  And I sit here and ask why?  What benefit am I getting from having a dip?  I really couldn't tell you but some bogus replies.  The reality is I decided to quit yesterday because I had a sore throat and had a dentist appt. yesterday. For me when i get a sore throat I fear cancer and you see the pictures and it scares the hell out of me.  The impact it could have on my life and my families.  I don't want to tell my girls that I was too selfish and couldn't find the will power to quit.  Losing your jaw, teeth. etc.  Yesterday I told the Dentist to give it to me straight and the effects I am having on my gums.  As fyi in past years I told him I don't want to know and if he did I wouldn't come back.  The reason was just shame knowing I was being controlled by my nicotine addiction.  Well he told me of my severe erosion of my gum line, significant gum disease, and gingivitis.  That continued use will lead to continual worst conditions that I don't even want to know about.  I am not immune to the effects to dipping, none of us are. 

I am going to stand up to the nic bitch!  I am ready to move forward with my brothers and sisters.  I look forward to saving $40 a week, $2000 a year, a clean car, to kissing my wife without the fear she knows, not having dip in my teeth, finding a spitter, improving my dental hygiene, reducing the risk of cancer, dip on my clothes, smell of dip in my car, the reputation from my friends waiting for me to throw in a big fatty, daily trips to the gas station, tasting food, and a life of freedom! 

I look forward to joining the group and hearing feedback, reading the stories, blogs and supporting everyone's quit.  We can do this one day at a time.
Glad to see you finally getting your shit together. I see you joined a while ago, and have 20+ posts.

What happened before, and where ya been?
:ph43r:
Quote from: moka2620
moka2620 - day 1 quit... lets do this
Quote from: moka2620
Moka2620 - Day 2
Anyone gonna pick this guy up?!?!?!?!

How about - anyone gonna challenge a guy who doesn't post roll correctly, Throws out a Day 1 and 2, joined in Sept of '12, and has 23 posts?

Does that sound just a bit fishy to anyone else here?

_

Nah, fuck it dude. You're right. Nothing to see here.
Title: Re: "Dad you eat Dirt" (4 year old daughter)
Post by: syndrome on September 05, 2013, 02:10:00 PM
Quote from: Nolaq
Anyone gonna pick this guy up?!?!?!?!

How about - anyone gonna challenge a guy who doesn't post roll correctly, Throws out a Day 1 and 2, joined in Sept of '12, and has 23 posts?

Does that sound just a bit fishy to anyone else here?

_

Nah, fuck it dude. You're right. Nothing to see here.
well man i wood think that may be some a the jan 13 guys wood have some intrist. but then agin may be haff them what mite rememember aint postin up roll any more.
Title: Re: "Dad you eat Dirt" (4 year old daughter)
Post by: Derk40 on September 05, 2013, 02:10:00 PM
Quote from: Nolaq
Quote from: Nolaq
Quote from: Nolaq
Quote from: moka2620
Hi my name is Brad.  I have made the decision the nic bitch can no longer run my life.   I am 35 and I have been dipping for 15 years, Kodiak.  It actually surprises me to think how long it has been and apart of my life.  And I sit here and ask why?  What benefit am I getting from having a dip?  I really couldn't tell you but some bogus replies.  The reality is I decided to quit yesterday because I had a sore throat and had a dentist appt. yesterday. For me when i get a sore throat I fear cancer and you see the pictures and it scares the hell out of me.  The impact it could have on my life and my families.  I don't want to tell my girls that I was too selfish and couldn't find the will power to quit.  Losing your jaw, teeth. etc.  Yesterday I told the Dentist to give it to me straight and the effects I am having on my gums.  As fyi in past years I told him I don't want to know and if he did I wouldn't come back.  The reason was just shame knowing I was being controlled by my nicotine addiction.  Well he told me of my severe erosion of my gum line, significant gum disease, and gingivitis.  That continued use will lead to continual worst conditions that I don't even want to know about.  I am not immune to the effects to dipping, none of us are. 

I am going to stand up to the nic bitch!  I am ready to move forward with my brothers and sisters.  I look forward to saving $40 a week, $2000 a year, a clean car, to kissing my wife without the fear she knows, not having dip in my teeth, finding a spitter, improving my dental hygiene, reducing the risk of cancer, dip on my clothes, smell of dip in my car, the reputation from my friends waiting for me to throw in a big fatty, daily trips to the gas station, tasting food, and a life of freedom! 

I look forward to joining the group and hearing feedback, reading the stories, blogs and supporting everyone's quit.  We can do this one day at a time.
Glad to see you finally getting your shit together. I see you joined a while ago, and have 20+ posts.

What happened before, and where ya been?
:ph43r:
Quote from: moka2620
moka2620 - day 1 quit... lets do this
Quote from: moka2620
Moka2620 - Day 2
Anyone gonna pick this guy up?!?!?!?!

How about - anyone gonna challenge a guy who doesn't post roll correctly, Throws out a Day 1 and 2, joined in Sept of '12, and has 23 posts?

Does that sound just a bit fishy to anyone else here?

_

Nah, fuck it dude. You're right. Nothing to see here.
I concur with NOLAQ.

Glad to see ur ready to quit... u sound way different than I did at Day1.

Where you been bud? What's been happening the past year? Why did you not quit back in Sep 12?
Title: Re: "Dad you eat Dirt" (4 year old daughter)
Post by: Nolaq on September 05, 2013, 02:20:00 PM
HEY! Look what I found!
Quote from: moka2620
moka2620 -day 22 - quit
Title: Re: "Dad you eat Dirt" (4 year old daughter)
Post by: syndrome on September 05, 2013, 02:38:00 PM
Quote from: Nolaq
HEY! Look what I found!
Quote from: moka2620
moka2620 -day 22 - quit
man i hope you never get a job as a irs odditer. cuz man i found day 2 on 9/24 and that was anuff for me.
Title: Re: "Dad you eat Dirt" (4 year old daughter)
Post by: moka2620 on September 05, 2013, 03:42:00 PM
Hey I don't deny it. I actually quit for 103 days. Unfortunately I felt like I hit my goal and had a dip after a night out with friends. Just "one dip right" obviously led to being addicted again. This time its big picture and a realization that I can do it and need to stay with roll call. That is what keeps you going, honestly. You quit roll call you will probably not quit dipping. My group wasn't the tightest knit bunch like I saw on other groups but I did feel a sense of loyalty to my group/KTC community. That I was fighting the battle with them. But as many who fail you runaway in shame when you fail. I didn't face my demons. So if you want to rag on me go ahead. Its deserving. It is not like I didn't know I used the same user name. I have nothing to hide. I failed. But I am here again and hope you will accept my apologies and accept me back into KTC. I need your support and I am willing to offer mine.

Moka2620 ~ Day 2
Title: Re: "Dad you eat Dirt" (4 year old daughter)
Post by: 30isEnuff on September 05, 2013, 03:47:00 PM
Quote from: moka2620
Hey I don't deny it. I actually quit for 103 days. Unfortunately I felt like I hit my goal and had a dip after a night out with friends. Just "one dip right" obviously led to being addicted again. This time its big picture and a realization that I can do it and need to stay with roll call. That is what keeps you going, honestly. You quit roll call you will probably not quit dipping. My group wasn't the tightest knit bunch like I saw on other groups but I did feel a sense of loyalty to my group/KTC community. That I was fighting the battle with them. But as many who fail you runaway in shame when you fail. I didn't face my demons. So if you want to rag on me go ahead. Its deserving. It is not like I didn't know I used the same user name. I have nothing to hide. I failed. But I am here again and hope you will accept my apologies and accept me back into KTC. I need your support and I am willing to offer mine.

Moka2620 ~ Day 2
Dang Dude, I hear lots of excuses and not one sentence that says "I am a NICOTINE ADDICT"
Did you know that all of us are Nictotine Addicts? This includes YOU!!
I don't want your apologies, I want your humility, admission and submission to KTC, Nictotine addiction and heavy involvement with your quit group.
Nothing less will do/work for YOU.
Quit on!
Title: Re: "Dad you eat Dirt" (4 year old daughter)
Post by: wmcatty on September 05, 2013, 03:52:00 PM
Moka, you need to answer the 3 questions. Post the questions and answers in your old group and Dec. 2013. Here they are:

1. What happened?

2. Why did it happen?

3. What are you going to do differently this time?
Title: Re: "Dad you eat Dirt" (4 year old daughter)
Post by: Sharsky on September 05, 2013, 03:54:00 PM
Quote from: moka2620
Hey I don't deny it.  I actually quit for 103 days.  Unfortunately I felt like I hit my goal and had a dip after a night out with friends.  Just "one dip right" obviously led to being addicted again.  This time its big picture and a realization that I can do it and need to stay with roll call.  That is what keeps you going, honestly.  You quit roll call you will probably not quit dipping.  My group wasn't the tightest knit bunch like I saw on other groups but I did feel a sense of loyalty to my group/KTC community.  That I was fighting the battle with them.  But as many who fail you runaway in shame when you fail.  I didn't face my demons.  So if you want to rag on me go ahead.  Its deserving.  It is not like I didn't know I used the same user name.  I have nothing to hide.  I failed.  But I am here again and hope you will accept my apologies and accept me back into KTC.  I need your support and I am willing to offer mine. 

Moka2620 ~ Day 2
Moka....23 posts with 103 days quit? You never actually even got going with daily roll call, much less stay with it. But yeah...you gotta do that. It's the backbone here....

Did i read that correctly? Did I just read that you said the Jackwagins were NOT "the tightest knit bunch"???????

You obviously did NOT make much of an effort to get involved what.so.ever.

Take a peek around. Check in and post roll with the group you had initially been part of....go see how many folks are posting with the Jackwagins. I havent a clue where you came up with that statement. That is all on you if you feel that way........
Title: Re: "Dad you eat Dirt" (4 year old daughter)
Post by: moka2620 on September 05, 2013, 04:10:00 PM
1. What happened? Having a drink with friends and the urge got the best of me.

2. Why did it happen? I honestly thought I was not as addicted as the others. I was feeling pretty good about myself being nic free and was a bit arrogant. Didn't need to do roll call even though it was my group that kept me going during the first 21 days. The urges had gone away, enjoying my new life nic free. What I failed to remember was being consisten with roll call or to give a call to my wife telling me not to do it.

3. What are you going to do differently this time? Keep my support system in place, have an action plan in the event the "urge" comes back, and i am humbled by my experience of failure.
Title: Re: "Dad you eat Dirt" (4 year old daughter)
Post by: Evil_Won on September 05, 2013, 04:10:00 PM
Quote from: Sharsky
Quote from: moka2620
Hey I don't deny it.  I actually quit for 103 days.  Unfortunately I felt like I hit my goal and had a dip after a night out with friends.  Just "one dip right" obviously led to being addicted again.  This time its big picture and a realization that I can do it and need to stay with roll call.  That is what keeps you going, honestly.  You quit roll call you will probably not quit dipping.  My group wasn't the tightest knit bunch like I saw on other groups but I did feel a sense of loyalty to my group/KTC community.  That I was fighting the battle with them.  But as many who fail you runaway in shame when you fail.  I didn't face my demons.  So if you want to rag on me go ahead.  Its deserving.  It is not like I didn't know I used the same user name.  I have nothing to hide.  I failed.  But I am here again and hope you will accept my apologies and accept me back into KTC.  I need your support and I am willing to offer mine. 

Moka2620 ~ Day 2
Moka....23 posts with 103 days quit? You never actually even got going with daily roll call, much less stay with it. But yeah...you gotta do that. It's the backbone here....

Did i read that correctly? Did I just read that you said the Jackwagins were NOT "the tightest knit bunch"???????

You obviously did NOT make much of an effort to get involved what.so.ever.

Take a peek around. Check in and post roll with the group you had initially been part of....go see how many folks are posting with the Jackwagins. I havent a clue where you came up with that statement. That is all on you if you feel that way........
Sharsky, we aren't a tight knit bunch in Jan 13'? News to me. What a fool I have been.

Last time I checked Roll we still have 29ish active posters, around 8 that are still 100% posters, and when I checked there were 85 people on the Almighty Jackwagin Roll yesterday. What are we doing wrong? Maybe Moka can point out the error of our ways. Better gets Sportsfan on the Secret-Quitphone he'll need to hear this shit first-hand.

Oh, Moka... 'Finger'
Title: Re: "Dad you eat Dirt" (4 year old daughter)
Post by: Nolaq on September 05, 2013, 04:12:00 PM
Quote from: moka2620
Hey I don't deny it. I actually quit for 103 days. Unfortunately I felt like I hit my goal and had a dip after a night out with friends. Just "one dip right" obviously led to being addicted again. This time its big picture and a realization that I can do it and need to stay with roll call. That is what keeps you going, honestly. You quit roll call you will probably not quit dipping. My group wasn't the tightest knit bunch like I saw on other groups but I did feel a sense of loyalty to my group/KTC community. That I was fighting the battle with them. But as many who fail you runaway in shame when you fail. I didn't face my demons. So if you want to rag on me go ahead. Its deserving. It is not like I didn't know I used the same user name. I have nothing to hide. I failed. But I am here again and hope you will accept my apologies and accept me back into KTC. I need your support and I am willing to offer mine.

Moka2620 ~ Day 2
*Yawn*

You're lack of understanding of what's going on here is sickening. You don't understand your addiction. You don't have the mindset to succeed. You don't have the fortitude for the fight.

You don't deny it? You didn't exactly offer it up, either, did you? It was sneaky at best, and if I wasn't so fucking bored at work, probably would have gone unnoticed and unchecked.

You have explaining to do.

First, to your so-called 'not so tight' former group. You owe them more fucking respect. They're still grinding it out while you chose to go stuff your face.

Second, with your new group. You need to let them know who you are and what you're about.

1. What happened?

2. Why did it happen?

3. What is going to be DIFFERENT this time?

I don't think you got it in you champ.
Title: Re: "Dad you eat Dirt" (4 year old daughter)
Post by: Evil_Won on September 05, 2013, 04:15:00 PM
Quote from: moka2620
1. What happened?  Having a drink with friends and the urge got the best of me. 

2. Why did it happen?  I honestly thought I was not as addicted as the others.  I was feeling pretty good about myself being nic free and was a bit arrogant.  Didn't need to do roll call even though it was my group that kept me going during the first 21 days.  The urges had gone away, enjoying my new life nic free.  What I failed to remember was being consisten with roll call or to give a call to my wife telling me not to do it. 

3. What are you going to do differently this time?  Keep my support system in place, have an action plan in the event the "urge" comes back, and i am humbled by my experience of failure.
Blah Blah Blah. Lip service. Weak answers. I would ask you to try again, but I don't think you engaged enough to know why you failed or how success is achieved. I suggest going back to day 1 of Jackwagin Roll and reading backwards towards the present day to learn. Then tell me again how the Jackwagins, and/or the supporters, failed you.

I hope December 13 meets your expectations for what a "tight knit bunch" ought to be.
Title: Re: "Dad you eat Dirt" (4 year old daughter)
Post by: Jlud007 on September 05, 2013, 04:30:00 PM
Quote from: Sharsky
Quote from: moka2620
Hey I don't deny it.  I actually quit for 103 days.  Unfortunately I felt like I hit my goal and had a dip after a night out with friends.  Just "one dip right" obviously led to being addicted again.  This time its big picture and a realization that I can do it and need to stay with roll call.  That is what keeps you going, honestly.  You quit roll call you will probably not quit dipping.  My group wasn't the tightest knit bunch like I saw on other groups but I did feel a sense of loyalty to my group/KTC community.  That I was fighting the battle with them.  But as many who fail you runaway in shame when you fail.  I didn't face my demons.  So if you want to rag on me go ahead.  Its deserving.  It is not like I didn't know I used the same user name.  I have nothing to hide.  I failed.  But I am here again and hope you will accept my apologies and accept me back into KTC.  I need your support and I am willing to offer mine. 

Moka2620 ~ Day 2
Moka....23 posts with 103 days quit? You never actually even got going with daily roll call, much less stay with it. But yeah...you gotta do that. It's the backbone here....

Did i read that correctly? Did I just read that you said the Jackwagins were NOT "the tightest knit bunch"???????

You obviously did NOT make much of an effort to get involved what.so.ever.

Take a peek around. Check in and post roll with the group you had initially been part of....go see how many folks are posting with the Jackwagins. I havent a clue where you came up with that statement. That is all on you if you feel that way........
:scowick:

Do yourself a favor Moka, don't make excuses just get on with the 3 questions and get to quitting the KTC way if that's really what you want. Your starting on the wrong foot by not being forthcoming about your prior KTC stoppage. Expect some blowback and get roughed up a bit, but if your show up every day and post roll it doesn't take long to gain the support on the site.

I'll be glad to quit with you the KTC way!
Title: Re: "Dad you eat Dirt" (4 year old daughter)
Post by: Sportsfan231 on September 05, 2013, 04:32:00 PM
Quote from: Syndrome
Quote from: Nolaq
Anyone gonna pick this guy up?!?!?!?!

How about - anyone gonna challenge a guy who doesn't post roll correctly, Throws out a Day 1 and 2, joined in Sept of '12, and has 23 posts?

Does that sound just a bit fishy to anyone else here?

_

Nah, fuck it dude.  You're right.  Nothing to see here.
well man i wood think that may be some a the jan 13 guys wood have some intrist. but then agin may be haff them what mite rememember aint postin up roll any more.
guess you haven't been to jan 13 to see how we post
Title: Re: "Dad you eat Dirt" (4 year old daughter)
Post by: Jlud007 on September 05, 2013, 04:40:00 PM
You have officially incurred the wrath of Evil and Sportsfan......better man up and get some quit going or pack it up, welcome back to KTC

'archer'
Title: Re: "Dad you eat Dirt" (4 year old daughter)
Post by: Sportsfan231 on September 05, 2013, 04:40:00 PM
Quote from: Evil_Won
Quote from: moka2620
1. What happened?  Having a drink with friends and the urge got the best of me. 

2. Why did it happen?  I honestly thought I was not as addicted as the others.  I was feeling pretty good about myself being nic free and was a bit arrogant.  Didn't need to do roll call even though it was my group that kept me going during the first 21 days.  The urges had gone away, enjoying my new life nic free.  What I failed to remember was being consisten with roll call or to give a call to my wife telling me not to do it. 

3. What are you going to do differently this time?  Keep my support system in place, have an action plan in the event the "urge" comes back, and i am humbled by my experience of failure.
Blah Blah Blah. Lip service. Weak answers. I would ask you to try again, but I don't think you engaged enough to know why you failed or how success is achieved. I suggest going back to day 1 of Jackwagin Roll and reading backwards towards the present day to learn. Then tell me again how the Jackwagins, and/or the supporters, failed you.

I hope December 13 meets your expectations for what a "tight knit bunch" ought to be.
he must not have gave me his number.

were did he come up that were not a tight knit bunch. 'bang head' i welcome you to come post with us show us what we can do better for you.
Title: Re: "Dad you eat Dirt" (4 year old daughter)
Post by: moka2620 on September 05, 2013, 05:06:00 PM
I apologize for disparaging my former group. It was not intended to0 insult that group and the effort they have put in. It was poorly worded and again I apologize. This is about me wanting to quit tobacco. I am an addict and I am fully aware of that now. If protocol is I go back to my original group and ask for forgiveness i will surely do that. If I move forward with a new group I am ready to embrace them and let them know of my struggles. In the end what I am going to do different which has been asked my others in this thread and inbox is committment. While actions speak louder then words and it really comes down to being accountable for my actions, to my group, to my family and to myself. Not looking for instant forgiveness but I am committed to doing this and I need KTC's help...
Title: Re: "Dad you eat Dirt" (4 year old daughter)
Post by: Evil_Won on September 05, 2013, 05:28:00 PM
Quote from: moka2620
I apologize for disparaging my former group. It was not intended to0 insult that group and the effort they have put in. It was poorly worded and again I apologize. This is about me wanting to quit tobacco. I am an addict and I am fully aware of that now. If protocol is I go back to my original group and ask for forgiveness i will surely do that. If I move forward with a new group I am ready to embrace them and let them know of my struggles. In the end what I am going to do different which has been asked my others in this thread and inbox is committment. While actions speak louder then words and it really comes down to being accountable for my actions, to my group, to my family and to myself. Not looking for instant forgiveness but I am committed to doing this and I need KTC's help...
1) Post roll everyday in Dec 13.
2) Take a leadership role there. ENGAGE with all of them and in KTC.
3) Post roll in Jan 13 again, every day.

Show us you want this by actions, not hollow words.
Title: Re: "Dad you eat Dirt" (4 year old daughter)
Post by: Jlud007 on September 05, 2013, 05:35:00 PM
Quote from: moka2620
I apologize for disparaging my former group.  It was not intended to0 insult that group and the effort they have put in.  It was poorly worded and again I apologize.  This is about me wanting to quit tobacco.  I am an addict and I am fully aware of that now.  If protocol is I go back to my original group and ask for forgiveness i will surely do that.  If I move forward with a new group I am ready to embrace them and let them know of my struggles.  In the end what I am going to do different which has been asked my others in this thread and inbox is committment.  While actions speak louder then words and it really comes down to being accountable for my actions, to my group, to my family and to myself.  Not looking for instant forgiveness but I am committed to doing this and I need KTC's help...
Your sounding like a quitter now Moka, but actions are the real test. Post roll and keep your word, every day, first thing. I'll be sending you my digits as well so you have some contacts.
Title: Re: "Dad you eat Dirt" (4 year old daughter)
Post by: Minny on September 05, 2013, 05:39:00 PM
Quote from: moka2620
Hi my name is Brad. I have made the decision the nic bitch can no longer run my life. I am 35 and I have been dipping for 15 years, Kodiak. It actually surprises me to think how long it has been and apart of my life. And I sit here and ask why? What benefit am I getting from having a dip? I really couldn't tell you but some bogus replies. The reality is I decided to quit yesterday because I had a sore throat and had a dentist appt. yesterday. For me when i get a sore throat I fear cancer and you see the pictures and it scares the hell out of me. The impact it could have on my life and my families. I don't want to tell my girls that I was too selfish and couldn't find the will power to quit. Losing your jaw, teeth. etc. Yesterday I told the Dentist to give it to me straight and the effects I am having on my gums. As fyi in past years I told him I don't want to know and if he did I wouldn't come back. The reason was just shame knowing I was being controlled by my nicotine addiction. Well he told me of my severe erosion of my gum line, significant gum disease, and gingivitis. That continued use will lead to continual worst conditions that I don't even want to know about. I am not immune to the effects to dipping, none of us are.

I am going to stand up to the nic bitch! I am ready to move forward with my brothers and sisters. I look forward to saving $40 a week, $2000 a year, a clean car, to kissing my wife without the fear she knows, not having dip in my teeth, finding a spitter, improving my dental hygiene, reducing the risk of cancer, dip on my clothes, smell of dip in my car, the reputation from my friends waiting for me to throw in a big fatty, daily trips to the gas station, tasting food, and a life of freedom!

I look forward to joining the group and hearing feedback, reading the stories, blogs and supporting everyone's quit. We can do this one day at a time.
Awwww, come ON, bro. That was low... Also, I wasn't even in the Jackwaggins and I hear their name all the time.

You had me hook line and sinker. Re-reading your first post... ugh.

Take it from a guy who came crawling back himself: There's only one thing to do now: post roll EVERY day, chug the kool-aid, keep your head down and get busy quittin' (again).

Good luck.
Title: Re: "Dad you eat Dirt" (4 year old daughter)
Post by: Minny on September 05, 2013, 05:58:00 PM
Part of drinking the Kool-Aid is going all in. Print three copies of this; put one in your wallet, give one to your wife, and then address one to your daughter  keep on your nightstand.

103 days quit and then caving? That just scared the shit out of me. I will admit that I didn't have the contract in my wallet until five minutes ago.

I give up my quit. Quitting is impossible and I cannot do it. I love dipping more than I love myself. I care about dipping more than I care about my personal health. I love dipping more than I love my family. I know this addiction will kill me, and I ACCEPT that fact. I enjoy spending time alone with my can more than I enjoy spending time with anyone else on the planet. I look forward to losing my jaw, my tongue, my throat, my life – it’s worth it. When I am lying in my hospital bed fighting a losing battle against cancer I will feel a sense of satisfaction knowing that this is the path I CHOSE. My only regret will be that I didn’t start dipping earlier in life. I will feel sorrow for my family’s heartbreak and suffer untold pain, but I know you must sacrifice for the things you truly love.

I know ALL the consequences of my actions and I accept them fully and without regret. I hereby choose to give my life to this addiction – I do so with a smile on face.

Signature: ____________________
Date: ____________________
Title: Re: "Dad you eat Dirt" (4 year old daughter)
Post by: Sportsfan231 on September 05, 2013, 05:59:00 PM
Quote from: Evil_Won
Quote from: moka2620
I apologize for disparaging my former group.  It was not intended to0 insult that group and the effort they have put in.  It was poorly worded and again I apologize.  This is about me wanting to quit tobacco.  I am an addict and I am fully aware of that now.  If protocol is I go back to my original group and ask for forgiveness i will surely do that.  If I move forward with a new group I am ready to embrace them and let them know of my struggles.  In the end what I am going to do different which has been asked my others in this thread and inbox is committment.  While actions speak louder then words and it really comes down to being accountable for my actions, to my group, to my family and to myself.  Not looking for instant forgiveness but I am committed to doing this and I need KTC's help...
1) Post roll everyday in Dec 13.
2) Take a leadership role there. ENGAGE with all of them and in KTC.
3) Post roll in Jan 13 again, every day.

Show us you want this by actions, not hollow words.
i agree come post with us daily after you post with December dont worry we will be there. post today i think we have some room. pm if you want a contact
Title: Re: "Dad you eat Dirt" (4 year old daughter)
Post by: Sportsfan231 on September 05, 2013, 06:17:00 PM
Quote from: Evil_Won
Quote from: moka2620
I apologize for disparaging my former group.  It was not intended to0 insult that group and the effort they have put in.  It was poorly worded and again I apologize.  This is about me wanting to quit tobacco.  I am an addict and I am fully aware of that now.  If protocol is I go back to my original group and ask for forgiveness i will surely do that.  If I move forward with a new group I am ready to embrace them and let them know of my struggles.  In the end what I am going to do different which has been asked my others in this thread and inbox is committment.  While actions speak louder then words and it really comes down to being accountable for my actions, to my group, to my family and to myself.  Not looking for instant forgiveness but I am committed to doing this and I need KTC's help...
1) Post roll everyday in Dec 13.
2) Take a leadership role there. ENGAGE with all of them and in KTC.
3) Post roll in Jan 13 again, every day.

Show us you want this by actions, not hollow words.
you will have to want this that means getting up in the morning and posting your promise not to use today its not a status.

then come post with us the Jan 13 Jackwagins and learn then take it back to your group be a leader.

get contacts lots of them make your self so big that people know that you are missing.

Give a shit(epayne)be here more then just roll..stick around become a friend.

ask me for my contact and i will have your back but you have to use it in good times and bad.
Title: Re: "Dad you eat Dirt" (4 year old daughter)
Post by: Sharsky on September 05, 2013, 08:16:00 PM
Quote from: sportsfan231
Quote from: Evil_Won
Quote from: moka2620
I apologize for disparaging my former group.  It was not intended to0 insult that group and the effort they have put in.  It was poorly worded and again I apologize.  This is about me wanting to quit tobacco.  I am an addict and I am fully aware of that now.  If protocol is I go back to my original group and ask for forgiveness i will surely do that.  If I move forward with a new group I am ready to embrace them and let them know of my struggles.  In the end what I am going to do different which has been asked my others in this thread and inbox is committment.  While actions speak louder then words and it really comes down to being accountable for my actions, to my group, to my family and to myself.  Not looking for instant forgiveness but I am committed to doing this and I need KTC's help...
1) Post roll everyday in Dec 13.
2) Take a leadership role there. ENGAGE with all of them and in KTC.
3) Post roll in Jan 13 again, every day.

Show us you want this by actions, not hollow words.
i agree come post with us daily after you post with December dont worry we will be there. post today i think we have some room. pm if you want a contact
Post as early as you can w/Dec. 13.
Post every dam day w/Dec 13.
Actions DO speak louder than words, so I also encourage you to:
Post as early as you can w/Jan. 13 JackWagins.
Post every dam day w/Jan. 13 JackWagins.
Make sure you check for bumps...if you've visited our roll page, you will understand that bumps happen. Traffic can be thick at times.
Your words to the Wagins spoke pretty loud.
Those actions every dam day will get louder than those words at some point.
Title: Re: "Dad you eat Dirt" (4 year old daughter)
Post by: OneImpressiveBall on September 05, 2013, 09:07:00 PM
Quote from: Sharsky
Quote from: sportsfan231
Quote from: Evil_Won
Quote from: moka2620
I apologize for disparaging my former group.  It was not intended to0 insult that group and the effort they have put in.  It was poorly worded and again I apologize.  This is about me wanting to quit tobacco.  I am an addict and I am fully aware of that now.  If protocol is I go back to my original group and ask for forgiveness i will surely do that.  If I move forward with a new group I am ready to embrace them and let them know of my struggles.  In the end what I am going to do different which has been asked my others in this thread and inbox is committment.  While actions speak louder then words and it really comes down to being accountable for my actions, to my group, to my family and to myself.  Not looking for instant forgiveness but I am committed to doing this and I need KTC's help...
1) Post roll everyday in Dec 13.
2) Take a leadership role there. ENGAGE with all of them and in KTC.
3) Post roll in Jan 13 again, every day.

Show us you want this by actions, not hollow words.
i agree come post with us daily after you post with December dont worry we will be there. post today i think we have some room. pm if you want a contact
Post as early as you can w/Dec. 13.
Post every dam day w/Dec 13.
Actions DO speak louder than words, so I also encourage you to:
Post as early as you can w/Jan. 13 JackWagins.
Post every dam day w/Jan. 13 JackWagins.
Make sure you check for bumps...if you've visited our roll page, you will understand that bumps happen. Traffic can be thick at times.
Your words to the Wagins spoke pretty loud.
Those actions every dam day will get louder than those words at some point.
I'm laughing here. It's a good thing I didn't check in for the past few hours.

Let's ignore the silly "Jack Wagins aren't a tight group" comment. What the fuck does that have to do with YOUR quit, moka? If your quit group isn't tight enough to give you support, you fucking make it tight. Why do you think it is that so many of the Jack Wagins still post roll every day? We just got lucky? Fell in a giant vat of quit? NO.

Guys like Sportsfan, Evil, epayne, 22skidoo, sharsky, pilotandy, dixie23, KLS, DipThis, our own lovable retread coachmorris, MikeinAz, zeno, jbradley, dipthis, OG White, ADMann, RLewis, JHaenel, Georgia32, 1bignordic, JMAC, mickey 24, ajamesion, and yes even Mr. "I post in Hawaii time" sferguson stepped forward and LED our group to being tight nit. LED us forward to staying quit. LED us together. Why? To make friends or score internet points? Fuck no. TO HOLD THEMSELVES AND EACH OTHER ACCOUNTABLE. Behavior I do not see coming from you, moka.

Did you even see that I called you out in December 13 this morning? Have you answered the 3 questions IN YOUR GROUP? Have you answered them in January 13?

You're making nice noises about quitting. That's great, and you've managed to get good and sincere advice from Sportsfan, Evil, and Sharsky - three VERY well regarded Jack Wagins who have been quit for the entire time over the last 300+ days that you were stuffing you piehole with cancer weed. I recommend that you post your answers in the appropriate places, accept all the help that's been offered, post roll every day, and take all the advice that's down below.

January Jack Wagins aren't tight . . . classic. I donated all my free time to your ass today solely because you managed to show up 22 times to post roll with me almost a year ago. Ponder that.
Title: Re: "Dad you eat Dirt" (4 year old daughter)
Post by: Nolaq on September 05, 2013, 11:12:00 PM
Quote from: OneImpressiveBall
Quote from: Sharsky
Quote from: sportsfan231
Quote from: Evil_Won
Quote from: moka2620
I apologize for disparaging my former group.  It was not intended to0 insult that group and the effort they have put in.  It was poorly worded and again I apologize.  This is about me wanting to quit tobacco.  I am an addict and I am fully aware of that now.  If protocol is I go back to my original group and ask for forgiveness i will surely do that.  If I move forward with a new group I am ready to embrace them and let them know of my struggles.  In the end what I am going to do different which has been asked my others in this thread and inbox is committment.  While actions speak louder then words and it really comes down to being accountable for my actions, to my group, to my family and to myself.  Not looking for instant forgiveness but I am committed to doing this and I need KTC's help...
1) Post roll everyday in Dec 13.
2) Take a leadership role there. ENGAGE with all of them and in KTC.
3) Post roll in Jan 13 again, every day.

Show us you want this by actions, not hollow words.
i agree come post with us daily after you post with December dont worry we will be there. post today i think we have some room. pm if you want a contact
Post as early as you can w/Dec. 13.
Post every dam day w/Dec 13.
Actions DO speak louder than words, so I also encourage you to:
Post as early as you can w/Jan. 13 JackWagins.
Post every dam day w/Jan. 13 JackWagins.
Make sure you check for bumps...if you've visited our roll page, you will understand that bumps happen. Traffic can be thick at times.
Your words to the Wagins spoke pretty loud.
Those actions every dam day will get louder than those words at some point.
I'm laughing here. It's a good thing I didn't check in for the past few hours.

Let's ignore the silly "Jack Wagins aren't a tight group" comment. What the fuck does that have to do with YOUR quit, moka? If your quit group isn't tight enough to give you support, you fucking make it tight. Why do you think it is that so many of the Jack Wagins still post roll every day? We just got lucky? Fell in a giant vat of quit? NO.

Guys like Sportsfan, Evil, epayne, 22skidoo, sharsky, pilotandy, dixie23, KLS, DipThis, our own lovable retread coachmorris, MikeinAz, zeno, jbradley, dipthis, OG White, ADMann, RLewis, JHaenel, Georgia32, 1bignordic, JMAC, mickey 24, ajamesion, and yes even Mr. "I post in Hawaii time" sferguson stepped forward and LED our group to being tight nit. LED us forward to staying quit. LED us together. Why? To make friends or score internet points? Fuck no. TO HOLD THEMSELVES AND EACH OTHER ACCOUNTABLE. Behavior I do not see coming from you, moka.

Did you even see that I called you out in December 13 this morning? Have you answered the 3 questions IN YOUR GROUP? Have you answered them in January 13?

You're making nice noises about quitting. That's great, and you've managed to get good and sincere advice from Sportsfan, Evil, and Sharsky - three VERY well regarded Jack Wagins who have been quit for the entire time over the last 300+ days that you were stuffing you piehole with cancer weed. I recommend that you post your answers in the appropriate places, accept all the help that's been offered, post roll every day, and take all the advice that's down below.

January Jack Wagins aren't tight . . . classic. I donated all my free time to your ass today solely because you managed to show up 22 times to post roll with me almost a year ago. Ponder that.
^^^this is why this place works.

Quit wood.
Title: Re: "Dad you eat Dirt" (4 year old daughter)
Post by: Sportsfan231 on September 06, 2013, 05:57:00 AM
Quote from: Nolaq
Quote from: OneImpressiveBall
Quote from: Sharsky
Quote from: sportsfan231
Quote from: Evil_Won
Quote from: moka2620
I apologize for disparaging my former group.  It was not intended to0 insult that group and the effort they have put in.  It was poorly worded and again I apologize.  This is about me wanting to quit tobacco.  I am an addict and I am fully aware of that now.  If protocol is I go back to my original group and ask for forgiveness i will surely do that.  If I move forward with a new group I am ready to embrace them and let them know of my struggles.  In the end what I am going to do different which has been asked my others in this thread and inbox is committment.  While actions speak louder then words and it really comes down to being accountable for my actions, to my group, to my family and to myself.  Not looking for instant forgiveness but I am committed to doing this and I need KTC's help...
1) Post roll everyday in Dec 13.
2) Take a leadership role there. ENGAGE with all of them and in KTC.
3) Post roll in Jan 13 again, every day.

Show us you want this by actions, not hollow words.
i agree come post with us daily after you post with December dont worry we will be there. post today i think we have some room. pm if you want a contact
Post as early as you can w/Dec. 13.
Post every dam day w/Dec 13.
Actions DO speak louder than words, so I also encourage you to:
Post as early as you can w/Jan. 13 JackWagins.
Post every dam day w/Jan. 13 JackWagins.
Make sure you check for bumps...if you've visited our roll page, you will understand that bumps happen. Traffic can be thick at times.
Your words to the Wagins spoke pretty loud.
Those actions every dam day will get louder than those words at some point.
I'm laughing here. It's a good thing I didn't check in for the past few hours.

Let's ignore the silly "Jack Wagins aren't a tight group" comment. What the fuck does that have to do with YOUR quit, moka? If your quit group isn't tight enough to give you support, you fucking make it tight. Why do you think it is that so many of the Jack Wagins still post roll every day? We just got lucky? Fell in a giant vat of quit? NO.

Guys like Sportsfan, Evil, epayne, 22skidoo, sharsky, pilotandy, dixie23, KLS, DipThis, our own lovable retread coachmorris, MikeinAz, zeno, jbradley, dipthis, OG White, ADMann, RLewis, JHaenel, Georgia32, 1bignordic, JMAC, mickey 24, ajamesion, and yes even Mr. "I post in Hawaii time" sferguson stepped forward and LED our group to being tight nit. LED us forward to staying quit. LED us together. Why? To make friends or score internet points? Fuck no. TO HOLD THEMSELVES AND EACH OTHER ACCOUNTABLE. Behavior I do not see coming from you, moka.

Did you even see that I called you out in December 13 this morning? Have you answered the 3 questions IN YOUR GROUP? Have you answered them in January 13?

You're making nice noises about quitting. That's great, and you've managed to get good and sincere advice from Sportsfan, Evil, and Sharsky - three VERY well regarded Jack Wagins who have been quit for the entire time over the last 300+ days that you were stuffing you piehole with cancer weed. I recommend that you post your answers in the appropriate places, accept all the help that's been offered, post roll every day, and take all the advice that's down below.

January Jack Wagins aren't tight . . . classic. I donated all my free time to your ass today solely because you managed to show up 22 times to post roll with me almost a year ago. Ponder that.
^^^this is why this place works.

Quit wood.
you will have to want this that means getting up in the morning and posting your promise not to use today its not a status.

then come post with us the Jan 13 Jackwagins and learn then take it back to your group be a leader.

get contacts lots of them make your self so big that people know that you are missing.

Give a shit(epayne)be here more then just roll..stick around become a friend.

ask me for my contact and i will have your back but you have to use it in good times and bad.
Title: Re: "Dad you eat Dirt" (4 year old daughter)
Post by: Evil_Won on September 06, 2013, 07:18:00 PM
Typical day in the life (specifically today) of a Jackwagin (me):

1. Wake up and Post Roll - non debatable
2. Scan the Roll to see who is quit so far today.
3. Pretend to do work at work but really just read stuff on KTC, call out Dbags where needed, help others where i can, spread my name across KTC like a social disease at the truck stop, and laugh at the banter in various posts in our thread that have nothing to do with Quit.
4. Revisit Roll and compare it to the spreadsheet. If someone is missing shoot them a text asking why they are not on roll if they are indeed quit.
5. When text is received stating said Jackwagin is indeed quit today, post roll for brother-in-quit.
6. Bask in Jackwagin awesomeness.
7. Repeat tomorrow.

Brotherhood
Accountability
Success

That's the way we roll in Jan. 13'.
Title: Re: "Dad you eat Dirt" (4 year old daughter)
Post by: AppleJack on September 06, 2013, 09:08:00 PM
Quote from: Evil_Won
Typical day in the life (specifically today) of a Jackwagin (me):

1. Wake up and Post Roll - non debatable
2. Scan the Roll to see who is quit so far today.
3. Pretend to do work at work but really just read stuff on KTC, call out Dbags where needed, help others where i can, spread my name across KTC like a social disease at the truck stop, and laugh at the banter in various posts in our thread that have nothing to do with Quit.
4. Revisit Roll and compare it to the spreadsheet. If someone is missing shoot them a text asking why they are not on roll if they are indeed quit.
5. When text is received stating said Jackwagin is indeed quit today, post roll for brother-in-quit.
6. Bask in Jackwagin awesomeness.
7. Repeat tomorrow.

Brotherhood
Accountability
Success

That's the way we roll in Jan. 13'.

I wanna be a Jackwagin when I grow up!!

Good stuff from Evil. Pay attention. Proud to quit with MY group and the Wagins every day.
Title: Re: "Dad you eat Dirt" (4 year old daughter)
Post by: Sharsky on September 11, 2013, 08:56:00 AM
Quote from: Sharsky
Post as early as you can w/Dec. 13. 
Post every dam day w/Dec 13.
Actions DO speak louder than words, so I also encourage you to:
Post as early as you can w/Jan. 13 JackWagins.
Post every dam day w/Jan. 13 JackWagins.
Make sure you check for bumps...if you've visited our roll page, you will understand that bumps happen.  Traffic can be thick at times.
Your words to the Wagins spoke pretty loud.
Those actions every dam day will get louder than those words at some point.
Your actions are speaking pretty loud Moka....no post yesterday? 50% roll post record???

Some tight knit stuff you have going on there......
Title: Re: "Dad you eat Dirt" (4 year old daughter)
Post by: Jlud007 on October 24, 2013, 07:02:00 PM
Bump for Dec to read. I noticed some drama going on with you fellas. Moka has been down this road. You cant waste time on a guy who doesn't get it and Moka obviously doesn't get it yet.


QFQQ
Title: Re: "Dad you eat Dirt" (4 year old daughter)
Post by: wmcatty on October 24, 2013, 07:44:00 PM
Posted in December '13 today for Moka.


Moka, it appears the writing is on the wall. With a 43% roll posting 1/2 way to the Hall, you are almost destined for failure. Some of the leaders of "your" quit group want you gone completely. What have you got to say for yourself as to why you less than half ass posted roll? You owe these men an explanation other than your post today "First i would like to apologize my roll has sucked and there are no excuses. I would like to continue my quit with my group that I started with. I know I am going to get a bashed pretty hard but I know I need this group and support to continue my quit".

1) Why did you only post roll 21 times out of 51 days quit?
2) Do you have a pc or a telephone?
3) Do you travel daily to foreign third world countries that do not have internet and/or telephone service?
4) What will you do differently now that you have been called out for unacceptable inactions and failure to account to your group?
5) What happened to you that made you aware of your need for the groups continued support?
At the very least you owe your brothers a sincere explanation to the questions proffered above. The ball is in your court now.

PS: Moka, remember your post on Sept. 5, where you said: I apologize for disparaging my former group. It was not intended to0 insult that group and the effort they have put in. It was poorly worded and again I apologize. This is about me wanting to quit tobacco. I am an addict and I am fully aware of that now. If protocol is I go back to my original group and ask for forgiveness i will surely do that. If I move forward with a new group I am ready to embrace them and let them know of my struggles. In the end what I am going to do different which has been asked my others in this thread and inbox is committment. While actions speak louder then words and it really comes down to being accountable for my actions, to my group, to my family and to myself. Not looking for instant forgiveness but I am committed to doing this and I need KTC's help...


I am not 100% sure, but I think this is a job for the Romandog...if he will agree to have and mentor you. Just food for thought Moka.
Title: Re: "Dad you eat Dirt" (4 year old daughter)
Post by: Evil_Won on October 24, 2013, 11:04:00 PM
Quote from: wmcatty
Posted in December '13 today for Moka.


Moka, it appears the writing is on the wall. With a 43% roll posting 1/2 way to the Hall, you are almost destined for failure. Some of the leaders of "your" quit group want you gone completely. What have you got to say for yourself as to why you less than half ass posted roll? You owe these men an explanation other than your post today "First i would like to apologize my roll has sucked and there are no excuses. I would like to continue my quit with my group that I started with. I know I am going to get a bashed pretty hard but I know I need this group and support to continue my quit".

1) Why did you only post roll 21 times out of 51 days quit?
2) Do you have a pc or a telephone?
3) Do you travel daily to foreign third world countries that do not have internet and/or telephone service?
4) What will you do differently now that you have been called out for unacceptable inactions and failure to account to your group?
5) What happened to you that made you aware of your need for the groups continued support?
At the very least you owe your brothers a sincere explanation to the questions proffered above. The ball is in your court now.

PS: Moka, remember your post on Sept. 5, where you said: I apologize for disparaging my former group. It was not intended to0 insult that group and the effort they have put in. It was poorly worded and again I apologize. This is about me wanting to quit tobacco. I am an addict and I am fully aware of that now. If protocol is I go back to my original group and ask for forgiveness i will surely do that. If I move forward with a new group I am ready to embrace them and let them know of my struggles. In the end what I am going to do different which has been asked my others in this thread and inbox is committment. While actions speak louder then words and it really comes down to being accountable for my actions, to my group, to my family and to myself. Not looking for instant forgiveness but I am committed to doing this and I need KTC's help...


I am not 100% sure, but I think this is a job for the Romandog...if he will agree to have and mentor you. Just food for thought Moka.
Maybe his next group will be knitted tight enough for his liking.
Title: Re: "Dad you eat Dirt" (4 year old daughter)
Post by: Sportsfan231 on October 25, 2013, 07:54:00 AM
Quote from: Evil_Won
Quote from: wmcatty
Posted in December '13 today for Moka.


Moka, it appears the writing is on the wall. With a 43% roll posting 1/2 way to the Hall, you are almost destined for failure. Some of the leaders of "your" quit group want you gone completely. What have you got to say for yourself as to why you less than half ass posted roll? You owe these men an explanation other than your post today "First i would like to apologize my roll has sucked and there are no excuses. I would like to continue my quit with my group that I started with. I know I am going to get a bashed pretty hard but I know I need this group and support to continue my quit".

1) Why did you only post roll 21 times out of 51 days quit?
2) Do you have a pc or a telephone?
3) Do you travel daily to foreign third world countries that do not have internet and/or telephone service?
4) What will you do differently now that you have been called out for unacceptable inactions and failure to account to your group?
5) What happened to you that made you aware of your need for the groups continued support?
At the very least you owe your brothers a sincere explanation to the questions proffered above. The ball is in your court now.

PS: Moka, remember your post on Sept. 5, where you said: I apologize for disparaging my former group. It was not intended to0 insult that group and the effort they have put in. It was poorly worded and again I apologize. This is about me wanting to quit tobacco. I am an addict and I am fully aware of that now. If protocol is I go back to my original group and ask for forgiveness i will surely do that. If I move forward with a new group I am ready to embrace them and let them know of my struggles. In the end what I am going to do different which has been asked my others in this thread and inbox is committment. While actions speak louder then words and it really comes down to being accountable for my actions, to my group, to my family and to myself. Not looking for instant forgiveness but I am committed to doing this and I need KTC's help...


I am not 100% sure, but I think this is a job for the Romandog...if he will agree to have and mentor you. Just food for thought Moka.
Maybe his next group will be knitted tight enough for his liking.
'crackup'
Title: Re: "Dad you eat Dirt" (4 year old daughter)
Post by: Romandog on October 25, 2013, 11:02:00 AM
Quote from: sportsfan231
Quote from: Evil_Won
Quote from: wmcatty
Posted in December '13 today for Moka.


Moka, it appears the writing is on the wall. With a 43% roll posting 1/2 way to the Hall, you are almost destined for failure. Some of the leaders of "your" quit group want you gone completely. What have you got to say for yourself as to why you less than half ass posted roll? You owe these men an explanation other than your post today "First i would like to apologize my roll has sucked and there are no excuses. I would like to continue my quit with my group that I started with. I know I am going to get a bashed pretty hard but I know I need this group and support to continue my quit".

1) Why did you only post roll 21 times out of 51 days quit?
2) Do you have a pc or a telephone?
3) Do you travel daily to foreign third world countries that do not have internet and/or telephone service?
4) What will you do differently now that you have been called out for unacceptable inactions and failure to account to your group?
5) What happened to you that made you aware of your need for the groups continued support?
At the very least you owe your brothers a sincere explanation to the questions proffered above. The ball is in your court now.

PS: Moka, remember your post on Sept. 5, where you said: I apologize for disparaging my former group. It was not intended to0 insult that group and the effort they have put in. It was poorly worded and again I apologize. This is about me wanting to quit tobacco. I am an addict and I am fully aware of that now. If protocol is I go back to my original group and ask for forgiveness i will surely do that. If I move forward with a new group I am ready to embrace them and let them know of my struggles. In the end what I am going to do different which has been asked my others in this thread and inbox is committment. While actions speak louder then words and it really comes down to being accountable for my actions, to my group, to my family and to myself. Not looking for instant forgiveness but I am committed to doing this and I need KTC's help...


I am not 100% sure, but I think this is a job for the Romandog...if he will agree to have and mentor you. Just food for thought Moka.
Maybe his next group will be knitted tight enough for his liking.
'crackup'
Hey wmcatty, folks,

Thanks for the consideration, but unfortunately I have too many things going on professionally and in my personal life right now that prevent me from investing the kind of time into this guy that it may require to get him on track.. Basically, if he wants to get off of nicotine badly enough then he will find it within himself somewhere to make the changes he needs to make. The guy that I dealt with earlier decided that he was going to outlast me, and not give me the satisfaction of running him off the site..

Looks to me like you all have it well in hand anyway.. I'm not some special enforcer on this site.. Not even a mod, let alone an admin.. Just another quitter like you.. Keep doing what you are doing..

Moka, on this site in general we:
- Don't put up with nic-brain excuses
- Don't buy into any sort of victim mentality
- Expect the same dedication out of quitters as we have in our own quit

If you want to play at being quit, want us to coddle you, tell you "Ahh.. too bad, sorry that little plant was stronger than you this time, you can always try again." then there are sites that will do that.

This ain't one of them.

Obviously it's time to put up or go away.

Kapiche?

Romandog - Day 922
Title: Re: "Dad you eat Dirt" (4 year old daughter)
Post by: wmcatty on October 25, 2013, 05:02:00 PM
Quote from: Romandog
Quote from: sportsfan231
Quote from: Evil_Won
Quote from: wmcatty
Posted in December '13 today for Moka.


Moka, it appears the writing is on the wall. With a 43% roll posting 1/2 way to the Hall, you are almost destined for failure. Some of the leaders of "your" quit group want you gone completely. What have you got to say for yourself as to why you less than half ass posted roll? You owe these men an explanation other than your post today "First i would like to apologize my roll has sucked and there are no excuses. I would like to continue my quit with my group that I started with. I know I am going to get a bashed pretty hard but I know I need this group and support to continue my quit".

1) Why did you only post roll 21 times out of 51 days quit?
2) Do you have a pc or a telephone?
3) Do you travel daily to foreign third world countries that do not have internet and/or telephone service?
4) What will you do differently now that you have been called out for unacceptable inactions and failure to account to your group?
5) What happened to you that made you aware of your need for the groups continued support?
At the very least you owe your brothers a sincere explanation to the questions proffered above. The ball is in your court now.

PS: Moka, remember your post on Sept. 5, where you said: I apologize for disparaging my former group. It was not intended to0 insult that group and the effort they have put in. It was poorly worded and again I apologize. This is about me wanting to quit tobacco. I am an addict and I am fully aware of that now. If protocol is I go back to my original group and ask for forgiveness i will surely do that. If I move forward with a new group I am ready to embrace them and let them know of my struggles. In the end what I am going to do different which has been asked my others in this thread and inbox is committment. While actions speak louder then words and it really comes down to being accountable for my actions, to my group, to my family and to myself. Not looking for instant forgiveness but I am committed to doing this and I need KTC's help...


I am not 100% sure, but I think this is a job for the Romandog...if he will agree to have and mentor you. Just food for thought Moka.
Maybe his next group will be knitted tight enough for his liking.
'crackup'
Hey wmcatty, folks,

Thanks for the consideration, but unfortunately I have too many things going on professionally and in my personal life right now that prevent me from investing the kind of time into this guy that it may require to get him on track.. Basically, if he wants to get off of nicotine badly enough then he will find it within himself somewhere to make the changes he needs to make. The guy that I dealt with earlier decided that he was going to outlast me, and not give me the satisfaction of running him off the site..

Looks to me like you all have it well in hand anyway.. I'm not some special enforcer on this site.. Not even a mod, let alone an admin.. Just another quitter like you.. Keep doing what you are doing..

Moka, on this site in general we:
- Don't put up with nic-brain excuses
- Don't buy into any sort of victim mentality
- Expect the same dedication out of quitters as we have in our own quit

If you want to play at being quit, want us to coddle you, tell you "Ahh.. too bad, sorry that little plant was stronger than you this time, you can always try again." then there are sites that will do that.

This ain't one of them.

Obviously it's time to put up or go away.

Kapiche?

Romandog - Day 922
Thank you Mark. As I told you and the leaders in Dec. '13, I sent Moka a pm yesterday and asked him to contact me as it appeared he needed someone in his corner. As you can probably guess, he has not contacted me either by phone or pm. Accountability is a simple word but its demands on those that need it most seem to far outweigh its grasp. Anyway, thank you for consideration of this matter and for the kind words and encouragement. Wayne
Title: Re: "Dad you eat Dirt" (4 year old daughter)
Post by: mattyf118 on October 25, 2013, 09:41:00 PM
Quote from: wmcatty
Quote from: Romandog
Quote from: sportsfan231
Quote from: Evil_Won
Quote from: wmcatty
Posted in December '13 today for Moka.


Moka, it appears the writing is on the wall. With a 43% roll posting 1/2 way to the Hall, you are almost destined for failure. Some of the leaders of "your" quit group want you gone completely. What have you got to say for yourself as to why you less than half ass posted roll? You owe these men an explanation other than your post today "First i would like to apologize my roll has sucked and there are no excuses. I would like to continue my quit with my group that I started with. I know I am going to get a bashed pretty hard but I know I need this group and support to continue my quit".

1) Why did you only post roll 21 times out of 51 days quit?
2) Do you have a pc or a telephone?
3) Do you travel daily to foreign third world countries that do not have internet and/or telephone service?
4) What will you do differently now that you have been called out for unacceptable inactions and failure to account to your group?
5) What happened to you that made you aware of your need for the groups continued support?
At the very least you owe your brothers a sincere explanation to the questions proffered above. The ball is in your court now.

PS: Moka, remember your post on Sept. 5, where you said: I apologize for disparaging my former group. It was not intended to0 insult that group and the effort they have put in. It was poorly worded and again I apologize. This is about me wanting to quit tobacco. I am an addict and I am fully aware of that now. If protocol is I go back to my original group and ask for forgiveness i will surely do that. If I move forward with a new group I am ready to embrace them and let them know of my struggles. In the end what I am going to do different which has been asked my others in this thread and inbox is committment. While actions speak louder then words and it really comes down to being accountable for my actions, to my group, to my family and to myself. Not looking for instant forgiveness but I am committed to doing this and I need KTC's help...


I am not 100% sure, but I think this is a job for the Romandog...if he will agree to have and mentor you. Just food for thought Moka.
Maybe his next group will be knitted tight enough for his liking.
'crackup'
Hey wmcatty, folks,

Thanks for the consideration, but unfortunately I have too many things going on professionally and in my personal life right now that prevent me from investing the kind of time into this guy that it may require to get him on track.. Basically, if he wants to get off of nicotine badly enough then he will find it within himself somewhere to make the changes he needs to make. The guy that I dealt with earlier decided that he was going to outlast me, and not give me the satisfaction of running him off the site..

Looks to me like you all have it well in hand anyway.. I'm not some special enforcer on this site.. Not even a mod, let alone an admin.. Just another quitter like you.. Keep doing what you are doing..

Moka, on this site in general we:
- Don't put up with nic-brain excuses
- Don't buy into any sort of victim mentality
- Expect the same dedication out of quitters as we have in our own quit

If you want to play at being quit, want us to coddle you, tell you "Ahh.. too bad, sorry that little plant was stronger than you this time, you can always try again." then there are sites that will do that.

This ain't one of them.

Obviously it's time to put up or go away.

Kapiche?

Romandog - Day 922
Thank you Mark. As I told you and the leaders in Dec. '13, I sent Moka a pm yesterday and asked him to contact me as it appeared he needed someone in his corner. As you can probably guess, he has not contacted me either by phone or pm. Accountability is a simple word but its demands on those that need it most seem to far outweigh its grasp. Anyway, thank you for consideration of this matter and for the kind words and encouragement. Wayne
I think it's time we move on from this one. He's obviously a lost cause.