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Community => General Discussion => Topic started by: chewie on December 26, 2013, 11:13:00 AM
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General quit discussion, questions, answers, etc.
Guests looking to quit looking for answers are welcome.
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Happy New Year quitters! Welcome to our newest members!!!
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It'd be great if everyone went and posted money they've saved by quitting in this thread today:
index.php?showtopic=262 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=262)
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It's absoultey tremendous to see SO many new members joining our ranks. Welcome aboard folks. Reach out when you need help. You're not alone!
chewie
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Hey everyone, my name is Derek and I'm happy to find a site like this. I'm wrapping up my first full day without dipping in 5 and a half years today and made the decision back in December 2013 that my New Years resolution would be to quit dipping. Even though today (January 1, 2014) is day one, I feel as if I've been on this journey forever already. The crave is absolutely unbearable and I'm so on edge. I feel like ripping someone's head off for no reason. I keep expecting it to be sitting there in my lip and it's not. My appetite is also going haywire.
Even though I feel this way, I'm determined to quit for better health and to be around longer for my family. I'm looking for some Jakes Mint Chew to help me get through this very tough stage right now. Looking forward to getting through the first year sober!
Sincerely,
Derek Martin, Olympia WA
32y/o, dipper for 5 and a half years
Quit date: January 1st, 2014
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Hey everyone, my name is Derek and I'm happy to find a site like this. I'm wrapping up my first full day without dipping in 5 and a half years today and made the decision back in December 2013 that my New Years resolution would be to quit dipping. Even though today (January 1, 2014) is day one, I feel as if I've been on this journey forever already. The crave is absolutely unbearable and I'm so on edge. I feel like ripping someone's head off for no reason. I keep expecting it to be sitting there in my lip and it's not. My appetite is also going haywire.
Even though I feel this way, I'm determined to quit for better health and to be around longer for my family. I'm looking for some Jakes Mint Chew to help me get through this very tough stage right now. Looking forward to getting through the first year sober!
Sincerely,
Derek Martin, Olympia WA
32y/o, dipper for 5 and a half years
Quit date: January 1st, 2014
get into Live Chat (http://chat.killthecan.org/) now.
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looking forward to my first year without dip this millenium. should be fun.
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New Blog Post: Finding Your Quit In 2013
http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/01/find ... t-in-2013/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/01/finding-your-quit-in-2013/)
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I am a twenty-five year user. My quit date was December 10, 2013 and today is number 23. I am encouraged by each of you who have written openly about the struggles you have experienced, they sound very familiar. The can has been my best friend for too long! I hope that each of the people who are joining the ranks of tobacco cessation, are successful in their endeavor.
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made the decision to quit, and saw this website. been doing it for about 10 years now. it's been rough, my sig. other is quitting cigarettes too and we're snapping at each other. what did y'all do to keep up with the quitting?
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made the decision to quit, and saw this website. been doing it for about 10 years now. it's been rough, my sig. other is quitting cigarettes too and we're snapping at each other. what did y'all do to keep up with the quitting?
What an excellent question and an even BETTER decision to Quit!
What do we do?
We Post Roll. Plain and simple.
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made the decision to quit, and saw this website. been doing it for about 10 years now. it's been rough, my sig. other is quitting cigarettes too and we're snapping at each other. what did y'all do to keep up with the quitting?
Hey Matt, we make a promise each day to not put the poison in our yaps. Then we keep it. Check out the welcome center tab up top there and shout out if you've got any questions. Welcome!
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made the decision to quit, and saw this website. been doing it for about 10 years now. it's been rough, my sig. other is quitting cigarettes too and we're snapping at each other. what did y'all do to keep up with the quitting?
I am on Day 2. Three things keep me going with my quit as I dipped Cope Snuff / Cope Long Cut for 23 years. 1, I have spent $36,000 on a habit that has done nothing for me. 2, I have a great wife who is making it worth my while. 3, I have offset urges with fake dip, gum, beef jerky, seeds and mints. I am also secretly putting my $4 dollars a day in a coffee can to surprise wife and kids next year with a surprise Disneyland Trip.
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made the decision to quit, and saw this website. been doing it for about 10 years now. it's been rough, my sig. other is quitting cigarettes too and we're snapping at each other. what did y'all do to keep up with the quitting?
Hey Matt, we make a promise each day to not put the poison in our yaps. Then we keep it. Check out the welcome center tab up top there and shout out if you've got any questions. Welcome!
That's ^^^^^^^^^ what works!!!!!!
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Day 3 is in the early stages. Cannot wait to wake up in the morning knowing that the nicotine will be out of my body. Feeling very focused today but know I have a 5 hour drive coming up later today that will test me pretty good.
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Day 3 is in the early stages. Cannot wait to wake up in the morning knowing that the nicotine will be out of my body. Feeling very focused today but know I have a 5 hour drive coming up later today that will test me pretty good.
Boom! You've got this... you're getting excited about your quit despite the fact that you feel like shit. That's a HUGE step!!!
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New Blog Post: 2013 - The Best Of The KTC Blog
http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/01/2013 ... -ktc-blog/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/01/2013-the-best-of-the-ktc-blog/)
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Last dip was 9PM last night. Been dipping off and on for 26 years.
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Last dip was 9PM last night. Been dipping off and on for 26 years.
congrats. Now click on the salmon colored link to the Welcome Center, then read those brief items, then get your name on Roll in the April 2014 group.
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Last dip was 9PM last night. Been dipping off and on for 26 years.
congrats. Now click on the salmon colored link to the Welcome Center, then read those brief items, then get your name on Roll in the April 2014 group.
It isn't "Salmon" it is Pink...
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Last dip was 9PM last night. Been dipping off and on for 26 years.
congrats. Now click on the salmon colored link to the Welcome Center, then read those brief items, then get your name on Roll in the April 2014 group.
It isn't "Salmon" it is Pink...
It ain't pink or salmon, it's orange! (Why not make it a primary color)
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Last dip was 9PM last night. Been dipping off and on for 26 years.
congrats. Now click on the salmon colored link to the Welcome Center, then read those brief items, then get your name on Roll in the April 2014 group.
It isn't "Salmon" it is Pink...
It ain't pink or salmon, it's orange! (Why not make it a primary color)
It ain't pink, salmon, or orange. It's unique.
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Last dip was 9PM last night. Been dipping off and on for 26 years.
congrats. Now click on the salmon colored link to the Welcome Center, then read those brief items, then get your name on Roll in the April 2014 group.
It isn't "Salmon" it is Pink...
It ain't pink or salmon, it's orange! (Why not make it a primary color)
It ain't pink, salmon, or orange. It's unique.
Red and yellow make orange, therefore, orange is a secondary color.
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Last dip was 9PM last night. Been dipping off and on for 26 years.
congrats. Now click on the salmon colored link to the Welcome Center, then read those brief items, then get your name on Roll in the April 2014 group.
It isn't "Salmon" it is Pink...
It ain't pink or salmon, it's orange! (Why not make it a primary color)
It ain't pink, salmon, or orange. It's unique.
Red and yellow make orange, therefore, orange is a secondary color.
It is salmon.
Welcome Center: HTML COLOR="SALMON"
Welcome Center: HTML COLOR="CORAL"
Welcome Center: HTML COLOR="DARK SALMON"
Welcome Center: HTML COLOR="DEEPPINK"
Welcome Center: HTML COLOR="FUCHSIA"
Welcome Center: HTML COLOR="HOTPINK"
I could go on.
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Last dip was 9PM last night. Been dipping off and on for 26 years.
congrats. Now click on the salmon colored link to the Welcome Center, then read those brief items, then get your name on Roll in the April 2014 group.
It isn't "Salmon" it is Pink...
It ain't pink or salmon, it's orange! (Why not make it a primary color)
It ain't pink, salmon, or orange. It's unique.
Red and yellow make orange, therefore, orange is a secondary color.
It is salmon.
Welcome Center: HTML COLOR="SALMON"
Welcome Center: HTML COLOR="CORAL"
Welcome Center: HTML COLOR="DARK SALMON"
Welcome Center: HTML COLOR="DEEPPINK"
Welcome Center: HTML COLOR="FUCHSIA"
Welcome Center: HTML COLOR="HOTPINK"
I could go on.
The Salmon Thong Manifesto: http://www.killthecan.org/thong/ (http://www.killthecan.org/thong/)
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Last dip was 9PM last night. Been dipping off and on for 26 years.
congrats. Now click on the salmon colored link to the Welcome Center, then read those brief items, then get your name on Roll in the April 2014 group.
It isn't "Salmon" it is Pink...
It ain't pink or salmon, it's orange! (Why not make it a primary color)
It ain't pink, salmon, or orange. It's unique.
Red and yellow make orange, therefore, orange is a secondary color.
It is salmon.
Welcome Center: HTML COLOR="SALMON"
Welcome Center: HTML COLOR="CORAL"
Welcome Center: HTML COLOR="DARK SALMON"
Welcome Center: HTML COLOR="DEEPPINK"
Welcome Center: HTML COLOR="FUCHSIA"
Welcome Center: HTML COLOR="HOTPINK"
I could go on.
The Salmon Thong Manifesto: http://www.killthecan.org/thong/ (http://www.killthecan.org/thong/)
So, where's the Pink Pony color?
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New Blog Post: KillTheCan.org Live Chat Promo With Lee "Hawk" Reherman
http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/01/kill ... -reherman/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/01/killthecan-org-live-chat-promo-with-lee-hawk-reherman/)
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Greetings - the name's Tyler and I'm on Day 2
This is my 3rd dip quit - the first two lasted 1 year, and 18 months respectively.
I smoked cigs for 10 years, and quit those suckers 15 years ago in 1 month. I was tobacco free for 8 years and then i got into the dip because my fishing buddy had some and, well, you know how it goes
Anyway, i found this site after doing a little googling and I like the blog posts.
My experience the last couple of quits was pretty much 2 weeks of hell, followed by fairly smooth sailing until about Day 100 then it was no big deal.
I struggled mightily with quitting smokes - much moreso than the chaw. We shall see...
i'm not going back. I am tired of worrying about my spitter getting mistaken for a drink by a child, tired of planning my day around when I can pop a lipper in, feeling embarassed at the dentist, getting the guilty looks from my wife and other family....
i'm done.
good site here - look forward to getting smarter and picking up and providing a little support.
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Greetings - the name's Tyler and I'm on Day 2
This is my 3rd dip quit - the first two lasted 1 year, and 18 months respectively.
I smoked cigs for 10 years, and quit those suckers 15 years ago in 1 month. I was tobacco free for 8 years and then i got into the dip because my fishing buddy had some and, well, you know how it goes
Anyway, i found this site after doing a little googling and I like the blog posts.
My experience the last couple of quits was pretty much 2 weeks of hell, followed by fairly smooth sailing until about Day 100 then it was no big deal.
I struggled mightily with quitting smokes - much moreso than the chaw. We shall see...
i'm not going back. I am tired of worrying about my spitter getting mistaken for a drink by a child, tired of planning my day around when I can pop a lipper in, feeling embarassed at the dentist, getting the guilty looks from my wife and other family....
i'm done.
good site here - look forward to getting smarter and picking up and providing a little support.
Smart move Tyler. Quitting is something we do everyday. You've never quit nicotine before, just a few pauses. I also had a few pauses but never really understood what I was dealing with, I never considered myself an addict. That's what we are and always will be. Even one dip will send you right back into slavery. I see you posted roll, that's the backbone of quitting. One day at a time (ODAAT) is all we have. Yesterday is past and Tomorrow may never come. I encourage you to read all you can and learn from those that have gone ahead of you, learn from their mistakes and their victories.
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Greetings - the name's Tyler and I'm on Day 2
This is my 3rd dip quit - the first two lasted 1 year, and 18 months respectively.
I smoked cigs for 10 years, and quit those suckers 15 years ago in 1 month. I was tobacco free for 8 years and then i got into the dip because my fishing buddy had some and, well, you know how it goes
Anyway, i found this site after doing a little googling and I like the blog posts.
My experience the last couple of quits was pretty much 2 weeks of hell, followed by fairly smooth sailing until about Day 100 then it was no big deal.
I struggled mightily with quitting smokes - much moreso than the chaw. We shall see...
i'm not going back. I am tired of worrying about my spitter getting mistaken for a drink by a child, tired of planning my day around when I can pop a lipper in, feeling embarassed at the dentist, getting the guilty looks from my wife and other family....
i'm done.Â
good site here - look forward to getting smarter and picking up and providing a little support.
Smart move Tyler. Quitting is something we do everyday. You've never quit nicotine before, just a few pauses. I also had a few pauses but never really understood what I was dealing with, I never considered myself an addict. That's what we are and always will be. Even one dip will send you right back into slavery. I see you posted roll, that's the backbone of quitting. One day at a time (ODAAT) is all we have. Yesterday is past and Tomorrow may never come. I encourage you to read all you can and learn from those that have gone ahead of you, learn from their mistakes and their victories.
Thanks for the encouragement
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http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/s (http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/s) well shit im gonna explode because I have tried to post I cant seem to post anything and I had a good day. I posted something but I don't think it posted for myself. so here goes.. I got tested today I quit 8 days ago however I had an interview and the owner of this company had to put in this dip right and it had to be the kind I gave up. mmm the smell and the thought all running in my head it sure looks like I could use one right.. than he offered me some.... uh oh all I said was no thank you.. he asked do you not chew... I said well I just quit 8 days ago... moral of story I didn't chew I just raced home and threw in some seeds and didn't let myself down and I still kept my promise to this site amen.... thanks all for reading Roman
http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/s (http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/s) well shit im gonna explode because I have tried to post I cant seem to post anything and I had a good day. I posted something but I don't think it posted for myself. so here goes.. I got tested today I quit 8 days ago however I had an interview and the owner of this company had to put in this dip right and it had to be the kind I gave up. mmm the smell and the thought all running in my head it sure looks like I could use one right.. than he offered me some.... uh oh all I said was no thank you.. he asked do you not chew... I said well I just quit 8 days ago... moral of story I didn't chew I just raced home and threw in some seeds and didn't let myself down and I still kept my promise to this site amen.... thanks all for reading Roman
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I am deep in the fog today, 1/9/14, Day 3 of the last time i'll quit nicotine
can't focus, guts are all twitchy, salivating, food all tastes like crap
THERE IS NO WAY I'M EVER GOING THROUGH THIS AGAIN
i just need to get to 5:00 p.m. then i can work out - that always makes me feel better
i'm completely hamstrung at work today
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I am deep in the fog today, 1/9/14, Day 3 of the last time i'll quit nicotine
can't focus, guts are all twitchy, salivating, food all tastes like crap
THERE IS NO WAY I'M EVER GOING THROUGH THIS AGAIN
i just need to get to 5:00 p.m. then i can work out - that always makes me feel better
i'm completely hamstrung at work today
Hang tough bro. You're winning.
It sucks sweaty monkey ass at first, but it is VERY worth it!
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I am deep in the fog today, 1/9/14, Day 3 of the last time i'll quit nicotine
can't focus, guts are all twitchy, salivating, food all tastes like crap
THERE IS NO WAY I'M EVER GOING THROUGH THIS AGAIN
i just need to get to 5:00 p.m. then i can work out - that always makes me feel better
i'm completely hamstrung at work today
Hang tough bro. You're winning.
It sucks sweaty monkey ass at first, but it is VERY worth it!
I'll 2nd that!!!
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Hello Peeps- This site is nice...hard for me to follow. If i'm posting in the wrong place or stomping where I shouldn't be, sorry.
Quit 1/7/14. It sucks ass. REALLY SUCKS ASS candy, seeds, tea, suckers, jerky...gonna put on 50#.
It's nice to read the struggles, share the pain, and ache through it together. But I dont think I can do it. I've quit for a year before...one fishing trip too many...started back up.
I started with Hawkin (remember that stuff?) about 25 years ago - progressed to Copenhagen - went down to General Snus (really smooth shit, had to import out of Sweden, now you can get it here. - on to Nothing.. I was out, thought time to quit. 13 year old son, 15 year old daughter, awesome wife, 17 year marriage...why fuck it up with the chew ? Starting to think...why fuck it up with out the chew. I am a case! Nut job, grumpy, fuck stick...foggy, agitated...whew... 'arse' 'Finger' I like the clickable smiles...like to get those on my phone?
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Hello Peeps- This site is nice...hard for me to follow. If i'm posting in the wrong place or stomping where I shouldn't be, sorry.Â
Quit 1/7/14. It sucks ass. REALLY SUCKS ASS candy, seeds, tea, suckers, jerky...gonna put on 50#.
It's nice to read the struggles, share the pain, and ache through it together. But I dont think I can do it. I've quit for a year before...one fishing trip too many...started back up.
I started with Hawkin (remember that stuff?) about 25 years ago - progressed to Copenhagen - went down to General Snus (really smooth shit, had to import out of Sweden, now you can get it here. - on to Nothing.. I was out, thought time to quit. 13 year old son, 15 year old daughter, awesome wife, 17 year marriage...why fuck it up with the chew ? Starting to think...why fuck it up with out the chew. I am a case! Nut job, grumpy, fuck stick...foggy, agitated...whew... 'arse' 'Finger' I like the clickable smiles...like to get those on my phone?
Welcome on the greatest decision ever, quitting.
This site has both changed and saved my life, and itÂ’s really quite simple:
Post Roll: Why (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=120)? How (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50)?
Every day you log into your “Group”, a bunch of guys all quitting together and going through the same suck, fog, cravings, etc. You “Post Roll”; add your name and the number of days quit that you are. This is your promise, a pledge to your quit brothers and sisters, to yourself, and to everyone else here on KTC to not use nicotine in any way, shape, or form, for the next 24 hours. Keep your promise. A man is nothing if his word is no good. Your group is April 2014 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=9259)
Get Involved:
Read: Introductions (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=25) and HOF Speeches (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=90). Read the banter in other groups. Read the non-dip discussions in the Wilcard (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=11) section when you want to get away from thoughts of dip. By doing this you will realize that you are not alone in the feeling you are having. You will gain strength through others. And, you will get to know these people on a personal level, which adds accountability.
Send out a few PMs:
Send out a PM to someone in your group, or to someone that posted something that you related to. Offer your phone number. I bet you will get a phone number in return. Store those numbers in your phone and USE THEM in a moment of weakness. Sending a text out has prevented me from caving more than a few times. Sometimes I didn’t even need a response, just taking a few seconds to text was all it took to get me thinking straight again. Other times the response I got was, “you do NOT have permission to cave”, which I took to heart.
Every tool you need to QUIT and remain QUIT is here, for free, but you have to want it. No one can quit for you, but we can offer support whenever you need it.
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Hello Peeps- This site is nice...hard for me to follow. If i'm posting in the wrong place or stomping where I shouldn't be, sorry.
Quit 1/7/14. It sucks ass. REALLY SUCKS ASS candy, seeds, tea, suckers, jerky...gonna put on 50#.
It's nice to read the struggles, share the pain, and ache through it together. But I dont think I can do it. I've quit for a year before...one fishing trip too many...started back up.
I started with Hawkin (remember that stuff?) about 25 years ago - progressed to Copenhagen - went down to General Snus (really smooth shit, had to import out of Sweden, now you can get it here. - on to Nothing.. I was out, thought time to quit. 13 year old son, 15 year old daughter, awesome wife, 17 year marriage...why fuck it up with the chew ? Starting to think...why fuck it up with out the chew. I am a case! Nut job, grumpy, fuck stick...foggy, agitated...whew... 'arse' 'Finger' I like the clickable smiles...like to get those on my phone?
Welcome to the site. Up top there is a link to the "welcome center" click it and read everything there if you haven't. If it sounds good and you want to quit this place works. I had enough 539 days ago and never would have guessed a bunch of quitters and a website would be all I needed to quit but there are thousands of us who have been there and have fought through for our freedom. This is a decent place to ask questions, you can also use your intro and quit group.
Again, welcome.
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Hello Peeps- This site is nice...hard for me to follow. If i'm posting in the wrong place or stomping where I shouldn't be, sorry.
Quit 1/7/14. It sucks ass. REALLY SUCKS ASS candy, seeds, tea, suckers, jerky...gonna put on 50#.
It's nice to read the struggles, share the pain, and ache through it together. But I dont think I can do it. I've quit for a year before...one fishing trip too many...started back up.
I started with Hawkin (remember that stuff?) about 25 years ago - progressed to Copenhagen - went down to General Snus (really smooth shit, had to import out of Sweden, now you can get it here. - on to Nothing.. I was out, thought time to quit. 13 year old son, 15 year old daughter, awesome wife, 17 year marriage...why fuck it up with the chew ? Starting to think...why fuck it up with out the chew. I am a case! Nut job, grumpy, fuck stick...foggy, agitated...whew... 'arse' 'Finger' I like the clickable smiles...like to get those on my phone?
You CAN do this
I'm doing it, and so can you
Go post to the roll call rheas for April 2014
Hit the chat room and chat it up there with some other members - don't give in, don't leave me here on day 3 by myself
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ZmanT still hanging in there? I found a brand new can in my wife's car. Wtf kind of test is that? Still chew free. I don't understand the roll call thing, that is...how to do it, I understand the accountability and all... Day 3 with ya
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ZmanT still hanging in there? I found a brand new can in my wife's car. Wtf kind of test is that? Still chew free. I don't understand the roll call thing, that is...how to do it, I understand the accountability and all... Day 3 with ya
I THINK I have roll call figured out
There's a thread called Pre-HOF April 2014 - hit it and go to page 1 - which is the page with the most recent posts oddly
Find the last one and hit the 'quote' button
In the message window that pops up you'll want to CUT the text from the lower box (don't copy, cut)
Paste that in the blank box for your post, find where the name goes and insert a line with your daily roll affirmation. Be sure to list your name and the # of days quit you have.
I just did it to check my instructions - should see my bump post there at the top of page 1
Now - as to the can you found, throw it out if you haven't already. You won't need it. Just throw that fucker away dude.
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ZmanT still hanging in there? I found a brand new can in my wife's car. Wtf kind of test is that? Still chew free. I don't understand the roll call thing, that is...how to do it, I understand the accountability and all... Day 3 with ya
I THINK I have roll call figured out
There's a thread called Pre-HOF April 2014 - hit it and go to page 1 - which is the page with the most recent posts oddly
Find the last one and hit the 'quote' button
In the message window that pops up you'll want to CUT the text from the lower box (don't copy, cut)
Paste that in the blank box for your post, find where the name goes and insert a line with your daily roll affirmation. Be sure to list your name and the # of days quit you have.
I just did it to check my instructions - should see my bump post there at the top of page 1
Now - as to the can you found, throw it out if you haven't already. You won't need it. Just throw that fucker away dude.
ZMan, I think you gotta copy the text box before you cut it and paste to the blank box. Otherinwise you'd a be pastin some eronious like text. Copying, cutting and pasting our way to freedom every damn day! Sometimes I forget the cutting part and the whole post gets doubled up. That there's referred to as the snaffoo. :o Somein the other times Iza paste up the wrong text into the right box. That's real fun cause then nobody knows what month theyz in. :D That one there I like to call the FUBAR post. Peepers taught me that one. :ph43r: The impotant thing to keep in mind is that the only real way to screw it up is iffin your name aint on it. 'finger point' The thong colored welcome tab up top there is a pretty good reference.
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Anyone know of a way to use the live chat on a mobile? Maybe a app of some kind?
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Anyone know of a way to use the live chat on a mobile? Maybe a app of some kind?
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/05/mobi ... available/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/05/mobile-chat-now-available/)
Okie, I found the link up above through KTC's search engine. It leads to Chewie's blog which I think may cover your question. Holler if there's anything else.
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Anyone know of a way to use the live chat on a mobile? Maybe a app of some kind?
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/05/mobi ... available/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/05/mobile-chat-now-available/)
Okie, I found the link up above through KTC's search engine. It leads to Chewie's blog which I think may cover your question. Holler if there's anything else.
Yep... you can use that app.
However, chat should be completely responsive at this point and you shouldn't need to do anything except visit http://chat.killthecan.org/ (http://chat.killthecan.org/)
For a while you weren't able to use iDevices as it required flash, but that's no longer the case. I'm in chat right now on my iPhone with no problems.
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Just venting, here goes.
Day 1 off nicotine, day 7 off snuff.
Guts are shitty. I did just have some abdominal surgery, so assumed it was simply that.
After doing some reading, I can sympathize.
25 years of straight skoal, fuck that was a long time.
What was I thinking?
As I said still re-covering from surgery, scared shitless of triggers when I return to work.
First cup of Coffee in a week was a bad one, and right after supper.
Eating a pile of shit. Peppermints, candies, jamming salted pretzels in my lip.
Must look like a fool,
I am not giving up! I had no idea how bad of an addict I was/am.
I never wanted to quit.
Cant believe I never tried.
I WILL DO THIS. THERE IS NOT ONE SHRED OF DOUGHT.
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Just venting, here goes.
Day 1 off nicotine, day 7 off snuff.
Guts are shitty. I did just have some abdominal surgery, so assumed it was simply that.
After doing some reading, I can sympathize.
25 years of straight skoal, fuck that was a long time.
What was I thinking?
As I said still re-covering from surgery, scared shitless of triggers when I return to work.
First cup of Coffee in a week was a bad one, and right after supper.
Eating a pile of shit. Peppermints, candies, jamming salted pretzels in my lip.
Must look like a fool,
I am not giving up! I had no idea how bad of an addict I was/am.
I never wanted to quit.
Cant believe I never tried.
I WILL DO THIS. THERE IS NOT ONE SHRED OF DOUGHT.
ODAAT.......NAFAR!!! These are the terms you will learn to live and love on this site. Almost a year now on my personal Quit and I still Swear by it daily. Stay strong and stay Quit...it get's sooooooooo much better.
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Day 3 is a bitch. I am in my mid 40s and don't recall the struggles of kicking this habit when I gave it up when I was 20. Then again, I have been a can-a-day user for past 3 years. I woke up this morning hoping that they have an unlimited amount of Grizzly in Heaven! I guess laughing on day 3 is a good thing.
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Day 3 is a bitch. I am in my mid 40s and don't recall the struggles of kicking this habit when I gave it up when I was 20. Then again, I have been a can-a-day user for past 3 years. I woke up this morning hoping that they have an unlimited amount of Grizzly in Heaven! I guess laughing on day 3 is a good thing.
Hang in there my man! Day #3 tends to be about the absolute worst that you're dealing with. It takes nicotine 72 hours (3 days) to work its way out of your body... so you're in the home stretch to becoming nicotine free!
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Anyone know of a way to use the live chat on a mobile? Maybe a app of some kind?
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/05/mobi ... available/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/05/mobile-chat-now-available/)
Okie, I found the link up above through KTC's search engine. It leads to Chewie's blog which I think may cover your question. Holler if there's anything else.
Yep... you can use that app.
However, chat should be completely responsive at this point and you shouldn't need to do anything except visit http://chat.killthecan.org/ (http://chat.killthecan.org/)
For a while you weren't able to use iDevices as it required flash, but that's no longer the case. I'm in chat right now on my iPhone with no problems.
Thanks. I ended up with the app cause I couldn't get the live hat from the site to work. Might be be because my phone is older than dirt but who knows. Thanks for getting me set up fellers
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Go Seattle Seahawks. Sorry I had to get that out. If you are a New Orleans Saints fan, stay strong and do not cave. Stay quit.
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I'm back after not posting for a while. I fell back into the trap for stupid reasons but I cannot blame reasons for the rest of my life. It was my decision and I regret it. After a year and a half without it, I thought I could just pack one and see what would happen. Well flash forward 5 months. Time to clean up before I ruin everything. When can I post?
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I'm back after not posting for a while. I fell back into the trap for stupid reasons but I cannot blame reasons for the rest of my life. It was my decision and I regret it. After a year and a half without it, I thought I could just pack one and see what would happen. Well flash forward 5 months. Time to clean up before I ruin everything. When can I post?
If you have thrown everything out including spitters and any safety cans, you can post a day 1 in the April 2014 quit group. Since you have done this before you know the drill. Post and repeat. Welcome back, take the egg off your face, and embrace the suck!!! No more for any reason. You are a nic addict and always will be!!!! There is no such thing as "just" one as you have learned the hard way!
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I'm back after not posting for a while. I fell back into the trap for stupid reasons but I cannot blame reasons for the rest of my life. It was my decision and I regret it. After a year and a half without it, I thought I could just pack one and see what would happen. Well flash forward 5 months. Time to clean up before I ruin everything. When can I post?
If you have thrown everything out including spitters and any safety cans, you can post a day 1 in the April 2014 quit group. Since you have done this before you know the drill. Post and repeat. Welcome back, take the egg off your face, and embrace the suck!!! No more for any reason. You are a nic addict and always will be!!!! There is no such thing as "just" one as you have learned the hard way!
Right on. Threw everything away. Will post roll in the morning as I did for today. See you tomorrow.
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I'm back after not posting for a while. I fell back into the trap for stupid reasons but I cannot blame reasons for the rest of my life. It was my decision and I regret it. After a year and a half without it, I thought I could just pack one and see what would happen. Well flash forward 5 months. Time to clean up before I ruin everything. When can I post?
If you have thrown everything out including spitters and any safety cans, you can post a day 1 in the April 2014 quit group. Since you have done this before you know the drill. Post and repeat. Welcome back, take the egg off your face, and embrace the suck!!! No more for any reason. You are a nic addict and always will be!!!! There is no such thing as "just" one as you have learned the hard way!
Right on. Threw everything away. Will post roll in the morning as I did for today. See you tomorrow.
And don't forget to post in your old and new group, explaining what happened, and what you will do to prevent it happening in the future.
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I'm back after not posting for a while. I fell back into the trap for stupid reasons but I cannot blame reasons for the rest of my life. It was my decision and I regret it. After a year and a half without it, I thought I could just pack one and see what would happen. Well flash forward 5 months. Time to clean up before I ruin everything. When can I post?
If you have thrown everything out including spitters and any safety cans, you can post a day 1 in the April 2014 quit group. Since you have done this before you know the drill. Post and repeat. Welcome back, take the egg off your face, and embrace the suck!!! No more for any reason. You are a nic addict and always will be!!!! There is no such thing as "just" one as you have learned the hard way!
Right on. Threw everything away. Will post roll in the morning as I did for today. See you tomorrow.
And don't forget to post in your old and new group, explaining what happened, and what you will do to prevent it happening in the future.
Damn! Walk away and it is your own risk here folks! Good example of why to keep posting in your group no matter how trivial it may seem!
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I'm back after not posting for a while. I fell back into the trap for stupid reasons but I cannot blame reasons for the rest of my life. It was my decision and I regret it. After a year and a half without it, I thought I could just pack one and see what would happen. Well flash forward 5 months. Time to clean up before I ruin everything. When can I post?
If you have thrown everything out including spitters and any safety cans, you can post a day 1 in the April 2014 quit group. Since you have done this before you know the drill. Post and repeat. Welcome back, take the egg off your face, and embrace the suck!!! No more for any reason. You are a nic addict and always will be!!!! There is no such thing as "just" one as you have learned the hard way!
Right on. Threw everything away. Will post roll in the morning as I did for today. See you tomorrow.
And don't forget to post in your old and new group, explaining what happened, and what you will do to prevent it happening in the future.
Damn! Walk away and it is your own risk here folks! Good example of why to keep posting in your group no matter how trivial it may seem!
I have been dipping for the last 15 months quit for about 5 years before that dipped about 10 years before that first quit. Ready to post roll for day 1 tomorrow sick of this shit
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I have a question for everyone, I am in day 20 of my quit, my gums bleed more now than they did when I chewed while brushing my teeth. Any one experience this as well?
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I have a question for everyone, I am in day 20 of my quit, my gums bleed more now than they did when I chewed while brushing my teeth. Any one experience this as well?
This is actually pretty common.
I'm not a doctor, but I've got a theory.
When you were actively dipping, your gums were "used" to getting hammered on all day every day. Now that you're done, they're healing, inflamed, etc. and they're bleeding.
The other thing to keep in mind is that now that you've quit, you're hyper sensitive to all things going on in your mouth (at least I was). There's a very good possibility that your gums are bleeding the same amount as they always were... you're just now noticing it.
chewie
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I have a question for everyone, I am in day 20 of my quit, my gums bleed more now than they did when I chewed while brushing my teeth. Any one experience this as well?
This is actually pretty common.
I'm not a doctor, but I've got a theory.
When you were actively dipping, your gums were "used" to getting hammered on all day every day. Now that you're done, they're healing, inflamed, etc. and they're bleeding.
The other thing to keep in mind is that now that you've quit, you're hyper sensitive to all things going on in your mouth (at least I was). There's a very good possibility that your gums are bleeding the same amount as they always were... you're just now noticing it.
chewie
Thanks Chewie ya things have been weird but I just imagine its my body readjusting to normal. Sense of taste is way off but getting better by the day and I finally last night had my first night of deep sleep through the entire night.
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I'm back after not posting for a while. I fell back into the trap for stupid reasons but I cannot blame reasons for the rest of my life. It was my decision and I regret it. After a year and a half without it, I thought I could just pack one and see what would happen. Well flash forward 5 months. Time to clean up before I ruin everything. When can I post?
If you have thrown everything out including spitters and any safety cans, you can post a day 1 in the April 2014 quit group. Since you have done this before you know the drill. Post and repeat. Welcome back, take the egg off your face, and embrace the suck!!! No more for any reason. You are a nic addict and always will be!!!! There is no such thing as "just" one as you have learned the hard way!
Right on. Threw everything away. Will post roll in the morning as I did for today. See you tomorrow.
And don't forget to post in your old and new group, explaining what happened, and what you will do to prevent it happening in the future.
Damn! Walk away and it is your own risk here folks! Good example of why to keep posting in your group no matter how trivial it may seem!
I have been dipping for the last 15 months quit for about 5 years before that dipped about 10 years before that first quit. Ready to post roll for day 1 tomorrow sick of this shit
Bsarno,
On January 13, 2014, you said you would post roll "tomorrow". Today is January 14, 2014, and that "tomorrow" is now today. I don't see you on the April 2014 roll post. Did you get bumped, are you a late evening/night poster, or did you not post roll?
JW
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Go Seattle Seahawks. Sorry I had to get that out. If you are a New Orleans Saints fan, stay strong and do not cave. Stay quit.
BOOM!!! Next up, forty-whiners. Can't wait.
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Hi to all, Not sure where i'm supposed to post the start of my journey. But, this evening. This moment. I have disposed of all chew materials. Bottles, cans. Where is the correct space to start posting/ranting?
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I'm back after not posting for a while. I fell back into the trap for stupid reasons but I cannot blame reasons for the rest of my life. It was my decision and I regret it. After a year and a half without it, I thought I could just pack one and see what would happen. Well flash forward 5 months. Time to clean up before I ruin everything. When can I post?
If you have thrown everything out including spitters and any safety cans, you can post a day 1 in the April 2014 quit group. Since you have done this before you know the drill. Post and repeat. Welcome back, take the egg off your face, and embrace the suck!!! No more for any reason. You are a nic addict and always will be!!!! There is no such thing as "just" one as you have learned the hard way!
Right on. Threw everything away. Will post roll in the morning as I did for today. See you tomorrow.
And don't forget to post in your old and new group, explaining what happened, and what you will do to prevent it happening in the future.
Damn! Walk away and it is your own risk here folks! Good example of why to keep posting in your group no matter how trivial it may seem!
I have been dipping for the last 15 months quit for about 5 years before that dipped about 10 years before that first quit. Ready to post roll for day 1 tomorrow sick of this shit
I actually found where you posted Day 1 in the January 14 quit group. That would have been your quit group had you quit when you joined the sight. You will be in the April 2014 Quit Group.
I am going to post you in April 2014 quit group. That is where you will need to post roll daily (because your 100 days from today will be in April 2014)
Very glad to see you posting roll. Most people mess up roll post their first few times. I know I did. If you have any questions about posting roll, etc just PM me. I am sending you a PM with my cell number. Use it.
J
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Hi to all, Not sure where i'm supposed to post the start of my journey. But, this evening. This moment. I have disposed of all chew materials. Bottles, cans. Where is the correct space to start posting/ranting?
Fine decision you made there. Welcome to the fun house.
May I suggest reading? Click on the Welcome Center (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13) to get a "big picture" idea of who we are and what we do.
Once you've figured that out, and studied the WHY (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=120) and HOW (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50) to Post Roll, head on over to your new home the April 2014 Pink Princess Pouters (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=9259) and add your name and Day 1.
Don't wait. Don't it now.
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Hi to all, Not sure where i'm supposed to post the start of my journey. But, this evening. This moment. I have disposed of all chew materials. Bottles, cans. Where is the correct space to start posting/ranting?
See my post below to Bsarno. You will need to post roll in April 2014 quit group. I am sending you a PM with my cell number. I'll be happy to post you to roll. It may be a little difficult/confusing at first but you will get the hang of it. I certainly dont mind helping you post roll--you just stay quit!
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I didn't realize you had responded, Evil. Im on my cell phone and typing can be slow. I wasnt trying to step on your toes. I was just trying to help how I could.
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I quit for 2 weeks then bought a can of Copenhagen original today because I couldn't take it anymore. Im a police officer and it is extremely hard to not chew at night. Need some serious help. Only been at it a year but I am tired of the hold it has on me. Any advice is definitely welcome. Thank you!
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I quit for 2 weeks then bought a can of Copenhagen original today because I couldn't take it anymore. Im a police officer and it is extremely hard to not chew at night. Need some serious help. Only been at it a year but I am tired of the hold it has on me. Any advice is definitely welcome. Thank you!
Go to the welcome center and read what we do and why. Post roll and quit one day at a time. For hell sakes quit now and don't wait decades like many of us. If I can do this after 40+ years you can sure as hell do it. Time to manup, you can do it. Pm me if you need anything.
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I quit for 2 weeks then bought a can of Copenhagen original today because I couldn't take it anymore. Im a police officer and it is extremely hard to not chew at night. Need some serious help. Only been at it a year but I am tired of the hold it has on me. Any advice is definitely welcome. Thank you!
Go to the welcome center and read what we do and why. Post roll and quit one day at a time. For hell sakes quit now and don't wait decades like many of us. If I can do this after 40+ years you can sure as hell do it. Time to manup, you can do it. Pm me if you need anything.
Ditto as to what WT says. He speaks the truth! says! Put on your big boy shorts, grab your balls, and let's get serious this time!!! Nicotine is one of the most addictive substances know to man. You CAN beat this but you really have to want it!!!! Its your choice! We quit here! not try here!!! If you are really serious about quitting you won't find BETTER support anywhere than you will get here! Don't make the same stupid mistake I made abusing nicotine for over 30 years!!!!!
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I have decided to quit today. I've no idea where to start on here but i'd like to start here. I have quit before but im back to a can a day.
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I have decided to quit today. I've no idea where to start on here but i'd like to start here. I have quit before but im back to a can a day.
Get Acclaimated (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=7614)
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I have decided to quit today. I've no idea where to start on here but i'd like to start here. I have quit before but im back to a can a day.
Get Acclaimated (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=7614)
Welcome brother. This is the place to be if you are Quit.
One small correction, though. You were never Quit before. You were just taking a break. When you are Quit, then you surround yourself with it, and wear it every day like I do.
You put your Quit on every morning when you wake up and Post Roll. (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=120)
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I have decided to quit today. I've no idea where to start on here but i'd like to start here. I have quit before but im back to a can a day.
Get Acclaimated (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=7614)
Welcome brother. This is the place to be if you are Quit.
One small correction, though. You were never Quit before. You were just taking a break. When you are Quit, then you surround yourself with it, and wear it every day like I do.
You put your Quit on every morning when you wake up and Post Roll. (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=120)
Ironically... I was just looking at THIS today.
http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures ... r-quitter/ (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/the-difference-between-stopper-quitter/)
Welcome!
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I have decided to quit today. I've no idea where to start on here but i'd like to start here. I have quit before but im back to a can a day.
Get Acclaimated (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=7614)
Welcome brother. This is the place to be if you are Quit.
One small correction, though. You were never Quit before. You were just taking a break. When you are Quit, then you surround yourself with it, and wear it every day like I do.
You put your Quit on every morning when you wake up and Post Roll. (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=120)
Ironically... I was just looking at THIS today.
http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures ... r-quitter/ (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/the-difference-between-stopper-quitter/)
Welcome!
What's with the nicoderm cq ad at the bottom? Gotta be a mistake. LOL.
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I have decided to quit today. I've no idea where to start on here but i'd like to start here. I have quit before but im back to a can a day.
Get Acclaimated (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=7614)
Welcome brother. This is the place to be if you are Quit.
One small correction, though. You were never Quit before. You were just taking a break. When you are Quit, then you surround yourself with it, and wear it every day like I do.
You put your Quit on every morning when you wake up and Post Roll. (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=120)
Ironically... I was just looking at THIS today.
http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures ... r-quitter/ (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/the-difference-between-stopper-quitter/)
Welcome!
What's with the nicoderm cq ad at the bottom? Gotta be a mistake. LOL.
Damn them, they sneak in there tempting addicts. Just like stores putting candy at eye level to your kids.
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I have decided to quit today. I've no idea where to start on here but i'd like to start here. I have quit before but im back to a can a day.
Get Acclaimated (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=7614)
Welcome brother. This is the place to be if you are Quit.
One small correction, though. You were never Quit before. You were just taking a break. When you are Quit, then you surround yourself with it, and wear it every day like I do.
You put your Quit on every morning when you wake up and Post Roll. (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=120)
Ironically... I was just looking at THIS today.
http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures ... r-quitter/ (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/the-difference-between-stopper-quitter/)
Welcome!
What's with the nicoderm cq ad at the bottom? Gotta be a mistake. LOL.
Damn them, they sneak in there tempting addicts. Just like stores putting candy at eye level to your kids.
The http://www.nicodermcq.com/ (http://www.nicodermcq.com/) ads have been re-blocked.
Thanks for the heads up.
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Just poking my head in here for a quick minute. 20 days Quit today. If you'd have asked me 21 days ago if i'd be where I am now...I'd have said you' were crazy. The KTC formula works. It just plain works. Thanks everybody. Keep your quit on!
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Just poking my head in here for a quick minute. 20 days Quit today. If you'd have asked me 21 days ago if i'd be where I am now...I'd have said you' were crazy. The KTC formula works. It just plain works. Thanks everybody. Keep your quit on!
Nice work cowboy
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The amount of stupidity in here hurts my head. (http://www.reddit.com/r/AdviceAnimals/comments/1vddjo/uagnostalypse_is_a_ggg_today_thanks_man_i/)
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The amount of stupidity in here hurts my head. (http://www.reddit.com/r/AdviceAnimals/comments/1vddjo/uagnostalypse_is_a_ggg_today_thanks_man_i/)
I must be old, because I can't understand a single word. What the Hell kind of site is that?
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The amount of stupidity in here hurts my head. (http://www.reddit.com/r/AdviceAnimals/comments/1vddjo/uagnostalypse_is_a_ggg_today_thanks_man_i/)
I must be old, because I can't understand a single word. What the Hell kind of site is that?
reddit is a website, for pretty much everything you can imagine.
That specific page was dedicated to using e cigs and how they are great.
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Former people that took a break from dip... What makes KTC stand out for you. What made you come to the site and then come back? Just wondering... reply of you like...EM
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Former people that took a break from dip... What makes KTC stand out for you. What made you come to the site and then come back? Just wondering... reply of you like...EM
You may want to clarify what you want here. Took a break from dip...hmmm. I never took a break from dip until I quit which was September 18 2013. I was here before but wasn't ready to quit then. I came back because I knew I was an addict and had to stop. I am not on a break from dip though. I won't ever put that shit in my mouth again!
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Former people that took a break from dip... What makes KTC stand out for you. What made you come to the site and then come back? Just wondering... reply of you like...EM
You may want to clarify what you want here. Took a break from dip...hmmm. I never took a break from dip until I quit which was September 18 2013. I was here before but wasn't ready to quit then. I came back because I knew I was an addict and had to stop. I am not on a break from dip though. I won't ever put that shit in my mouth again!
Ditto ^^^ to what Doc said. Only time you take a break is when hiking. Not when Quittn !!!
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Don't forget about live chat with Lee "American Gladiator Hawk" Reherman tonight at 9:00 PM!!!
http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/01/kill ... -reherman/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/01/killthecan-org-live-chat-promo-with-lee-hawk-reherman/)
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The amount of stupidity in here hurts my head. (http://www.reddit.com/r/AdviceAnimals/comments/1vddjo/uagnostalypse_is_a_ggg_today_thanks_man_i/)
I must be old, because I can't understand a single word. What the Hell kind of site is that?
The answer is, "yes," "yes you are," NOLAQ!! :P
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Hi all!
Frustrated girlfriend here. I joined this forum because my boyfriend's dip consumption has reached an all time high, and so has my tolerance! Instead of freaking out, I thought I would come here for advice.
First, I have broached the subject of quitting with my boyfriend many times. In addition to being annoyed, his excuse is always "when I'm done with school." For him, dip has become a self-medicating technique to get through tons of homework at night. He literally NEEDS dip to study, which resulted in him walking through a blizzard to go get tins tonight.
For those of you who have been in that position, what alternatives can I suggest/have you tried?
Any and all help is appreciated, thank you all so much!
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Hi all!
Frustrated girlfriend here. I joined this forum because my boyfriend's dip consumption has reached an all time high, and so has my tolerance! Instead of freaking out, I thought I would come here for advice.
First, I have broached the subject of quitting with my boyfriend many times. In addition to being annoyed, his excuse is always "when I'm done with school." For him, dip has become a self-medicating technique to get through tons of homework at night. He literally NEEDS dip to study, which resulted in him walking through a blizzard to go get tins tonight.
For those of you who have been in that position, what alternatives can I suggest/have you tried?
Any and all help is appreciated, thank you all so much!
Wow. Don't know what to say. Having chewed for some 32 years, if my daughter dated a chewer I would tell her to walk away rather than watch someone struggle with this addiction all their life. Maybe that's a bad answer but I'm viewing it through the addict's eyes. I can't trust myself to stay quit. My kids both tried chew - because of me. Thank God they don't chew now but I can't imagine how I'd feel if they did. You have to ask yourself whether you want that addiction in your life and, in the future, in your children's lives. He's gotta care enough about himself to quit. He can't quit for you. Wish I had a better suggestion for you. Good luck.
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Hi all!
Frustrated girlfriend here. I joined this forum because my boyfriend's dip consumption has reached an all time high, and so has my tolerance! Instead of freaking out, I thought I would come here for advice.
First, I have broached the subject of quitting with my boyfriend many times. In addition to being annoyed, his excuse is always "when I'm done with school." For him, dip has become a self-medicating technique to get through tons of homework at night. He literally NEEDS dip to study, which resulted in him walking through a blizzard to go get tins tonight.
For those of you who have been in that position, what alternatives can I suggest/have you tried?
Any and all help is appreciated, thank you all so much!
I am very sorry to tell you that your boyfriend is an addict. Plain and simple, he's an addict. I know, because, I'm one too.
I Quit 1,408 days ago, and I will say there is not ONE or ANY thing my wife could have told me to make me want to Quit before I decided it was time.
I'm sorry.
That's not the answer you want, but he will continue to dip until he makes the CHOICE to Quit.
You can suggest he comes here to look around. You can suggest he quits, but honestly, there is nothing you can do.
He will lie to you. He's an addict. It's what we do.
If you love him, you may choose to stay with him through this process, but if his dipping is a big wedge in your relationship, and you are as young as you appear....
...you may want to check the other fish in the sea.
Just sayin. This is a serious addiction. It's not easy, but it is a terrible, terrible addiction.
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Hi all!
Frustrated girlfriend here. I joined this forum because my boyfriend's dip consumption has reached an all time high, and so has my tolerance! Instead of freaking out, I thought I would come here for advice.
First, I have broached the subject of quitting with my boyfriend many times. In addition to being annoyed, his excuse is always "when I'm done with school." For him, dip has become a self-medicating technique to get through tons of homework at night. He literally NEEDS dip to study, which resulted in him walking through a blizzard to go get tins tonight.
For those of you who have been in that position, what alternatives can I suggest/have you tried?
Any and all help is appreciated, thank you all so much!
If you truly love and support him then accept that he is addicted to dip. Do not let him hide it from you.
The decision to quit is easy for most all dippers. Yes they want to quit. The ability to quit is something different. It has to come from within ones self to finally quit. No amount of bribes, nagging, money or anything else will keep a dip addict from dipping.
3 weeks ago I made that choice to quit and have succeeded one day at a time. I feel though as I am missing an arm or a leg as dip was part of my life fore 20 years.
Part of me does not ever want to dip again and part of me still wants nothing more than a huge pinch of Copenhagen in my lip right now.
Thankfully due to a supportive and very tolerant wife and KTC site and forums I am keeping my QUIT one day at a time.
Basically there is nothing you can do until he is ready to quit. This site does note endorse or allow any alternatives to dip that contain nicotine. They do not help anyways. Be patient, supportive and encouraging and when your boyfriend is ready we will be here to help.
Good Luck and God Bless
C. Lucas
USCG77
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Hi all!
Frustrated girlfriend here. I joined this forum because my boyfriend's dip consumption has reached an all time high, and so has my tolerance! Instead of freaking out, I thought I would come here for advice.
First, I have broached the subject of quitting with my boyfriend many times. In addition to being annoyed, his excuse is always "when I'm done with school."Â For him, dip has become a self-medicating technique to get through tons of homework at night. He literally NEEDS dip to study, which resulted in him walking through a blizzard to go get tins tonight.
For those of you who have been in that position, what alternatives can I suggest/have you tried?Â
Any and all help is appreciated, thank you all so much!
If you truly love and support him then accept that he is addicted to dip. Do not let him hide it from you.
The decision to quit is easy for most all dippers. Yes they want to quit. The ability to quit is something different. It has to come from within ones self to finally quit. No amount of bribes, nagging, money or anything else will keep a dip addict from dipping.
3 weeks ago I made that choice to quit and have succeeded one day at a time. I feel though as I am missing an arm or a leg as dip was part of my life fore 20 years.
Part of me does not ever want to dip again and part of me still wants nothing more than a huge pinch of Copenhagen in my lip right now.
Thankfully due to a supportive and very tolerant wife and KTC site and forums I am keeping my QUIT one day at a time.
Basically there is nothing you can do until he is ready to quit. This site does note endorse or allow any alternatives to dip that contain nicotine. They do not help anyways. Be patient, supportive and encouraging and when your boyfriend is ready we will be here to help.
Good Luck and God Bless
C. Lucas
USCG77
In addition to everyone else's responses, this may be helpful missy:
Spousal Support: http://www.killthecan.org/community/spousal-support/ (http://www.killthecan.org/community/spousal-support/)
don't get the term "spouse" fool you here... this is written for you.
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New Blog Post: Hooch Snuff Rough Cut Review - Chattahoochee Herbal Snuff
http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/01/hooc ... ut-review/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/01/hooch-snuff-rough-cut-review/)
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Hey all I'm new here... I quit 10 min before the new year so I am 22 days today without dipping... I have heard a lot of people tell me that the first week is the hardest. It was hard without a doubt but it seems to be harder now than before... I have been using seeds like crazy. It helps a little but not much lol... I can do this it's sort of a bitch but I can definitely see the benifits. I'm glad I found this site I quit with 3 other friends and I know for sure that 2 of them are back using again so my support system is relatively gone... Thanks for being here for folks like me!
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Hey all I'm new here... I quit 10 min before the new year so I am 22 days today without dipping... I have heard a lot of people tell me that the first week is the hardest. It was hard without a doubt but it seems to be harder now than before... I have been using seeds like crazy. It helps a little but not much lol... I can do this it's sort of a bitch but I can definitely see the benifits. I'm glad I found this site I quit with 3 other friends and I know for sure that 2 of them are back using again so my support system is relatively gone... Thanks for being here for folks like me!
Why not start an intro thread and join April quit group. There is a ton of help and support here. Read everything in the salmon coloured welcome centre.
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I saw on the blog back in September that KTC members could get coupons for a lot of the smokeless alternatives. I was wanting to grab a can or two of that hooch rough for a road trip I'm taking with the wife and figured if I could get a discount might as well do it.
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Hello everyone, I am new to the site. I am glad I found this site!! Here is my story - I have been dipping for 37 years, about two cans per day. I must say I have never considered quitting until now. I recently found out I was going to be a granddad, so what better time. It's been two weeks dip free! That does not sound like much but for me, it's a huge step. My wife is very proud of me and I have done really good with the cravings but I find the mental thing the hardest. She doesn't understand when I tell her "what do "normal" people do after eating? first thing in the morning? during the day?" You see, I always had a dip, I could eat with it, sleep with it, never spit so most people never knew I did it. But now that I have made it two weeks, it's a real challenge - a lot of praying, and talking myself out of buying any of it...
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Hello everyone, I am new to the site. I am glad I found this site!! Here is my story - I have been dipping for 37 years, about two cans per day. I must say I have never considered quitting until now. I recently found out I was going to be a granddad, so what better time. It's been two weeks dip free! That does not sound like much but for me, it's a huge step. My wife is very proud of me and I have done really good with the cravings but I find the mental thing the hardest. She doesn't understand when I tell her "what do "normal" people do after eating? first thing in the morning? during the day?" You see, I always had a dip, I could eat with it, sleep with it, never spit so most people never knew I did it. But now that I have made it two weeks, it's a real challenge - a lot of praying, and talking myself out of buying any of it...
Congrats on two weeks! I feel ya on the what do normal people do stuff! Im 18 days quit myself. You should go to the welcome center an read everything there and then go post roll with the resolute bastards in the April quit group. And good luck and keep it one day at a time!
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Hello everyone, I am new to the site. I am glad I found this site!! Here is my story - I have been dipping for 37 years, about two cans per day. I must say I have never considered quitting until now. I recently found out I was going to be a granddad, so what better time. It's been two weeks dip free! That does not sound like much but for me, it's a huge step. My wife is very proud of me and I have done really good with the cravings but I find the mental thing the hardest. She doesn't understand when I tell her "what do "normal" people do after eating? first thing in the morning? during the day?" You see, I always had a dip, I could eat with it, sleep with it, never spit so most people never knew I did it. But now that I have made it two weeks, it's a real challenge - a lot of praying, and talking myself out of buying any of it...
Hey man.... Congrats on making it this far! I am on day 3 of my quit, your story is inspiring!
Be sure to get in the quit group, we got this!
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Day two. I can't understand why something so stupid can be so difficult to stop. 'bang head'
I'm still on the first can of Rocky Mountain which tastes about like a dog's hind end (I'll assume). Chewing gum only works for a while, seeds make my mouth hurt worse than the chew ever did. Day 1 had some struggles, but I wasn't feeling depressed like this. I really really hate how my mind wanders into how I could just hop in the pickup and go buy a can. Just for today, Just one. I've tried several times before. I actually made it about 3 months, and was doing well when I decided I can quit it's easy, so I caved.... Second worst decision of my life outside of actually starting.
I started chewing freshman year in college. I was hammered and I took a bet that I could have a dip and not throw up. TUrns out I was right, but I really lost that bet. That was 8 years ago. All of my daily routines seemed so nice with a little dip. I've always been ashamed of it, I've always been afraid to lose part of my face. I'm finally quitting for myself, my wife, and my 9 month old. I'm actually going to do it this time.
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Day two. I can't understand why something so stupid can be so difficult to stop. 'bang head'
I'm still on the first can of Rocky Mountain which tastes about like a dog's hind end (I'll assume). Chewing gum only works for a while, seeds make my mouth hurt worse than the chew ever did. Day 1 had some struggles, but I wasn't feeling depressed like this. I really really hate how my mind wanders into how I could just hop in the pickup and go buy a can. Just for today, Just one. I've tried several times before. I actually made it about 3 months, and was doing well when I decided I can quit it's easy, so I caved.... Second worst decision of my life outside of actually starting.
I started chewing freshman year in college. I was hammered and I took a bet that I could have a dip and not throw up. TUrns out I was right, but I really lost that bet. That was 8 years ago. All of my daily routines seemed so nice with a little dip. I've always been ashamed of it, I've always been afraid to lose part of my face. I'm finally quitting for myself, my wife, and my 9 month old. I'm actually going to do it this time.
That's great TWheezie. I also chewed for 7 years after. That was after years of trying to get others to quit in my life I finally gave in and one dip turned into 7 years of at least a can a day.
Day 2 is a bitch, but just keep focused on the task and before you know it the craves will start to decrease. Don't turn back now.
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Well, I guess I will give my story. I am not really sure how long I have been dipping but it has to be at lease 20 years. I have stopped a few times but I have not even tried to quit in quite awhile. But I am done. I used about a can a day maybe a day and a half. I put the last dip in yesterday afternoon and that was it. I have made it thru the night, and thru coaching my sons Varsity basketball game today, without ripping someones head off. I am dizzy most of the time and very jittery. But I actually don't want to put a dip in. Well, except when my wife gave me a Reese's cup and I ate it, I wanted one after that. Why am I quitting. It interferes with my relationships. My relationship with God (I am a slave to the can and not to God), with my wife (I cannot even kiss her most of the day unless I plan it.), I am ashamed of it in front of my kids cuz I don't them to do it. I think I will have more energy and I don't want to have that constant worry of the big C. That is it for now. Thanks to all that are on here to support us.
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Well, I guess I will give my story. I am not really sure how long I have been dipping but it has to be at lease 20 years. I have stopped a few times but I have not even tried to quit in quite awhile. But I am done. I used about a can a day maybe a day and a half. I put the last dip in yesterday afternoon and that was it. I have made it thru the night, and thru coaching my sons Varsity basketball game today, without ripping someones head off. I am dizzy most of the time and very jittery. But I actually don't want to put a dip in. Well, except when my wife gave me a Reese's cup and I ate it, I wanted one after that. Why am I quitting. It interferes with my relationships. My relationship with God (I am a slave to the can and not to God), with my wife (I cannot even kiss her most of the day unless I plan it.), I am ashamed of it in front of my kids cuz I don't them to do it. I think I will have more energy and I don't want to have that constant worry of the big C. That is it for now. Thanks to all that are on here to support us.
Jammis that is great you are working on quitting. I wasn't going to post a reply to your comments, but when I read that it interferes with your relationships I completely understand what your saying. I am recently divorced and I contribute it partially to dip. I didn't think my x-wife had a huge problem with it except for the usual scolding she gave me every few months. When it came down to it and we were getting a divorce she said that I wouldn't even kiss her anymore, which is a big part of the reason she was not happy in our relationship. That wasn't so true, but as a dipper there is never a good time to kiss your wife. When you choose to drive home with a fatty dip in and then get home and not kiss your wife it affects things.
Anyways, I encourage you to continue the quit. It is going to be hard, but well worth it. It has been hard for me to quit, but I've made it 40 days and am not going back.
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I saw on the blog back in September that KTC members could get coupons for a lot of the smokeless alternatives. I was wanting to grab a can or two of that hooch rough for a road trip I'm taking with the wife and figured if I could get a discount might as well do it.
sorry for the late response okie...
hooch coupons can be found here: http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/smo ... och-snuff/ (http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/smokeless-alternatives/killthecan-org-hooch-snuff/)
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Greetings all, I have trolled around this website since I initially quit ( Aug. 13,2013 ) but had never joined the forums. I just wanted to say thank you for all of the information that is provided on this site. It is such a blessing and a wonderful feeling to not to be a slave to the can.
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I saw on the blog back in September that KTC members could get coupons for a lot of the smokeless alternatives. I was wanting to grab a can or two of that hooch rough for a road trip I'm taking with the wife and figured if I could get a discount might as well do it.
sorry for the late response okie...
hooch coupons can be found here: http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/smo ... och-snuff/ (http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/smokeless-alternatives/killthecan-org-hooch-snuff/)
It's cool chewie. I looked around and found it. My hooch ought to be here next week!
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He sholda read the Warning Labels. (http://news.yahoo.com/ex-marlboro-man-dies-smoking-related-disease-034350253.html)
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He sholda read the Warning Labels. (http://news.yahoo.com/ex-marlboro-man-dies-smoking-related-disease-034350253.html)
Speaking of reading the warning labels...
saw today that the dude that was the Marlboro Man in the 1970s commercials died of smoking related causes this past weekend. He was in his seventies.
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He sholda read the Warning Labels. (http://news.yahoo.com/ex-marlboro-man-dies-smoking-related-disease-034350253.html)
Speaking of reading the warning labels...
saw today that the dude that was the Marlboro Man in the 1970s commercials died of smoking related causes this past weekend. He was in his seventies.
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He sholda read the Warning Labels. (http://news.yahoo.com/ex-marlboro-man-dies-smoking-related-disease-034350253.html)
Speaking of reading the warning labels...
saw today that the dude that was the Marlboro Man in the 1970s commercials died of smoking related causes this past weekend. He was in his seventies.
:unsure:
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He sholda read the Warning Labels. (http://news.yahoo.com/ex-marlboro-man-dies-smoking-related-disease-034350253.html)
Speaking of reading the warning labels...
saw today that the dude that was the Marlboro Man in the 1970s commercials died of smoking related causes this past weekend. He was in his seventies.
:unsure:
'Crazy'
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He sholda read the Warning Labels. (http://news.yahoo.com/ex-marlboro-man-dies-smoking-related-disease-034350253.html)
Speaking of reading the warning labels...
saw today that the dude that was the Marlboro Man in the 1970s commercials died of smoking related causes this past weekend. He was in his seventies.
:unsure:
'Crazy'
:ph43r: It's all a facade . . . . :ph43r:
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News article about Marlboro man Eric Lawson's death (http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/jan/27/marlboro-ad-eric-lawson-dies-cigarettes-smoking)
Keep quit fellas.
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News article about Marlboro man Eric Lawson's death (http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/jan/27/marlboro-ad-eric-lawson-dies-cigarettes-smoking)
Keep quit fellas.
My browser didn't update the newer posts... disregard my previous quoted post.
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He sholda read the Warning Labels. (http://news.yahoo.com/ex-marlboro-man-dies-smoking-related-disease-034350253.html)
Speaking of reading the warning labels...
saw today that the dude that was the Marlboro Man in the 1970s commercials died of smoking related causes this past weekend. He was in his seventies.
:unsure:
'Crazy'
:ph43r: It's all a facade . . . . :ph43r:
How are you with printers Gator? 'help'
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He sholda read the Warning Labels. (http://news.yahoo.com/ex-marlboro-man-dies-smoking-related-disease-034350253.html)
Speaking of reading the warning labels...
saw today that the dude that was the Marlboro Man in the 1970s commercials died of smoking related causes this past weekend. He was in his seventies.
:unsure:
'Crazy'
:ph43r: It's all a facade . . . . :ph43r:
How are you with printers Gator? 'help'
White Shadow
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NICE HEADER!
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NICE HEADER!
GO Seahawks!
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Hey there. Are you here as a guest? Are checking out the site and thinking about quitting the dip? Are you wondering if you can actually do it for real this time?
YOU CAN! You are not here by accident. You have come to the right place. Dump your stash and start RIGHT NOW. Post on here if you need any help finding your way around the site.
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see introductions for Joe8183
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Okay, first time using the forums and, I gotta say, kind of odd forum that does not allow members to start new topics. Can tell I won't be spending much time here. Too bad, kind of a uniques site but, oh well.
Anyway, ended up finding this site at the end of 2013 and quit chewing in the beginning of January. This weekend, Feb 7 2014, will be 4 weeks without dipping.
This was only possible with Smokey Mountain chew my local Wal-Mart sells. Not real sure what made me finally quit: I am 30. I have chewed since I was 15.
I really hate not chewing tobacco, my life was much better when I was chewing it. Me and my wife do nothing but fight now, I have gained about 15 more pounds since quitting and I feel like shit all day. The crap folks have posted on this site about things improving are pretty much bullshit to me but perhaps it is different for each individual.
I would prefer to continue chewing tobacco but do not due to the cancer issue: there have been several guys in our community die from chewing tobacco cancers and it is the most horrific thing ever. Still, if I did not have a family, I would have kept chewing and simply had some type of 'accident' if diagnosed with one of these nasty cancers. That's probli a bit too real for most folks but, oh well.
My biggest problem with this site is how the main ideology behind this site is that you are an addict FOREVER; there is no hope, you can never be cured, you could start chewing at any moment, there is nothing you can do about it, etc., etc. When I first read that on this site, I was really depressed and kept right on chewing. Didn't visit the site anymore. But I thought about it for awhile and thought, ya know, that's a bullshit, hippie, 1980's, depressing, atheistic, woe-is-me attitude.
I don't do drugs. When I was in high school, I did them when I went to parties, which was the majority of the time. I grew up. When an old friend from high school came home to visit 3 years ago from Atlanta, she and I smoked out back, much to my wife's dismay. I didn't really want to but had never smoked with this person and gave it a try: it had been about 2 years since I had smoked weed before that. I ended up hating being high and paranoid and, of course, have not touched any since.
For some reason, say 4 years ago, I quit buying beer, going to the bar and partying. Just stopped with no real explanation. I think right now there may be two beers in the fridge. The last time I had a beer was about 5 weeks ago. The last time I was drunk was about a year and a half ago.
Now I will admit I was a raging alcoholic. Up until 5 years ago. I was also a pothead until I turned 20 and the world I was in (the beef show cattle world) looked down on that type of thing so I ditched it. Basically, I grew out of my addictions. I did not REMAIN an addict to this day. If I get drunk, I do not turn back into a raging alcholic and binge drink for 6 months straight and have to check into rehab. Neither will you: that's simply stupid.
Same thing if I smoke some green. This will probli not happen since I really can't stand smoking the shit anymore but if I chose to, I would NOT start smoking it every day. As far as any other substance, I'm not real worried cuz I think they are pointless and dangerous.
Point is, I grew up. Same reason I think I quit chewing: yes, it sucks but how many professional photographers do you know that sport a big old chaw while taking your HS senior's portrait? Not many. Same thing: I am growing out of it (thank the Lord, thought it would never happen.)
And once I realized all of this, I returned to killthecan.org and went to the alternative chew section of the site (the only useful part of the site, in my mind.) I found Smokey Mountain chew was sold at Wal-Mart, made a quick trip to the local store and picked up a bunch of tins and began mixing dips til my tin of Longhorn was gone beginning of January.
Now I'm addicted to SMC and that sucks but at least the biggest worry I now have is cavities from the excessive amounts of molasses. However, just wanted folks at this site to know that, IMO, I think it is silly to perpetrate the idea that if I have another dip in my life, I will instantly be driving to the 7-11 to buy a tin and be hooked, just like that again. It's been about 7 yeas since I quite smoking. In that time, I bet I have had about 10 cigarettes. I never did buy a pack of smokes in that time or take up smoking again. But, every now and then, I had a cigarette. Now? Can't stand the smell. Just outgrew it.
This idea that you are always a HOPELESS addict and nothing can ever change it is absolutely ridiculous, childish and counterproductive. This idea was brought about by schlock psychology in the eighties and I do not understand WHY it has stuck but if you do some research on modern thinking on the subject, the general concesus has changed since subjects and quitters reports do not match the supposed theories of yesteryear.
So, for those who have bought into this notion that you will ALWAYS be addicted to chew, it's simply not true. You could have a dip later in life and be just fine. You probli should not have one while you are transitioning to a non-tobacco lifestyle: that would probli help you backslide. But, a year or 2 down the road, you will probably be able to have a dip from a friend, savor it and not have another for a long time and be just fine with it. If you choose to back to chewing tobacco, that would be a pretty irresponsible choice but it is your choice. In my experience, however, no addiction is strong enough (save for cocaine, heroin, or other hardcore drugs) to have a hold like that over a years time. It is different for everyone but part of folks problems might be this stupid fallacy that if you put the magic tobacco plant back in your lip, you'll immediately go buy another log right away. Simply not true.
Id also be weary of anyone selling that idea. Because they probably have some sort of help they want to sell you. Like non-tobacco chews.
Not saying there is anything wrong with quitting (praise the Lord!) but just think about it. Everyone is looking to make a buck. What kind of quit is it if you have to stay a member of a website for 20 years to ensure you don't start chewing tobacco again. Is that really a quit you own or killthecan.org owns? That's my 2 cents, go ahead and flame on me all ya want.
I call it as I see it. And, for me personally, your site made me want to give up and keep on chewing. The little voice of reason (Holy Spirit) that said your site was full of shit and didn't quite get the full picture. Since I listened to the latter voice, I have now been nicotine free for 4 weeks, something I have never accomplished in over 15 years.
God is good.
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Take what you need, leave the rest...........
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Okay, first time using the forums and, I gotta say, kind of odd forum that does not allow members to start new topics. Can tell I won't be spending much time here. Too bad, kind of a uniques site but, oh well.
Anyway, ended up finding this site at the end of 2013 and quit chewing in the beginning of January. This weekend, Feb 7 2014, will be 4 weeks without dipping.
This was only possible with Smokey Mountain chew my local Wal-Mart sells. Not real sure what made me finally quit: I am 30. I have chewed since I was 15.
I really hate not chewing tobacco, my life was much better when I was chewing it. Me and my wife do nothing but fight now, I have gained about 15 more pounds since quitting and I feel like shit all day. The crap folks have posted on this site about things improving are pretty much bullshit to me but perhaps it is different for each individual.
I would prefer to continue chewing tobacco but do not due to the cancer issue: there have been several guys in our community die from chewing tobacco cancers and it is the most horrific thing ever. Still, if I did not have a family, I would have kept chewing and simply had some type of 'accident' if diagnosed with one of these nasty cancers. That's probli a bit too real for most folks but, oh well.
My biggest problem with this site is how the main ideology behind this site is that you are an addict FOREVER; there is no hope, you can never be cured, you could start chewing at any moment, there is nothing you can do about it, etc., etc. When I first read that on this site, I was really depressed and kept right on chewing. Didn't visit the site anymore. But I thought about it for awhile and thought, ya know, that's a bullshit, hippie, 1980's, depressing, atheistic, woe-is-me attitude.
I don't do drugs. When I was in high school, I did them when I went to parties, which was the majority of the time. I grew up. When an old friend from high school came home to visit 3 years ago from Atlanta, she and I smoked out back, much to my wife's dismay. I didn't really want to but had never smoked with this person and gave it a try: it had been about 2 years since I had smoked weed before that. I ended up hating being high and paranoid and, of course, have not touched any since.
For some reason, say 4 years ago, I quit buying beer, going to the bar and partying. Just stopped with no real explanation. I think right now there may be two beers in the fridge. The last time I had a beer was about 5 weeks ago. The last time I was drunk was about a year and a half ago.
Now I will admit I was a raging alcoholic. Up until 5 years ago. I was also a pothead until I turned 20 and the world I was in (the beef show cattle world) looked down on that type of thing so I ditched it. Basically, I grew out of my addictions. I did not REMAIN an addict to this day. If I get drunk, I do not turn back into a raging alcholic and binge drink for 6 months straight and have to check into rehab. Neither will you: that's simply stupid.
Same thing if I smoke some green. This will probli not happen since I really can't stand smoking the shit anymore but if I chose to, I would NOT start smoking it every day. As far as any other substance, I'm not real worried cuz I think they are pointless and dangerous.Â
Point is, I grew up. Same reason I think I quit chewing: yes, it sucks but how many professional photographers do you know that sport a big old chaw while taking your HS senior's portrait? Not many. Same thing: I am growing out of it (thank the Lord, thought it would never happen.)
And once I realized all of this, I returned to killthecan.org and went to the alternative chew section of the site (the only useful part of the site, in my mind.) I found Smokey Mountain chew was sold at Wal-Mart, made a quick trip to the local store and picked up a bunch of tins and began mixing dips til my tin of Longhorn was gone beginning of January.
Now I'm addicted to SMC and that sucks but at least the biggest worry I now have is cavities from the excessive amounts of molasses. However, just wanted folks at this site to know that, IMO, I think it is silly to perpetrate the idea that if I have another dip in my life, I will instantly be driving to the 7-11 to buy a tin and be hooked, just like that again. It's been about 7 yeas since I quite smoking. In that time, I bet I have had about 10 cigarettes. I never did buy a pack of smokes in that time or take up smoking again. But, every now and then, I had a cigarette. Now? Can't stand the smell. Just outgrew it.
This idea that you are always a HOPELESS addict and nothing can ever change it is absolutely ridiculous, childish and counterproductive. This idea was brought about by schlock psychology in the eighties and I do not understand WHY it has stuck but if you do some research on modern thinking on the subject, the general concesus has changed since subjects and quitters reports do not match the supposed theories of yesteryear.
So, for those who have bought into this notion that you will ALWAYS be addicted to chew, it's simply not true. You could have a dip later in life and be just fine. You probli should not have one while you are transitioning to a non-tobacco lifestyle: that would probli help you backslide. But, a year or 2 down the road, you will probably be able to have a dip from a friend, savor it and not have another for a long time and be just fine with it. If you choose to back to chewing tobacco, that would be a pretty irresponsible choice but it is your choice. In my experience, however, no addiction is strong enough (save for cocaine, heroin, or other hardcore drugs) to have a hold like that over a years time. It is different for everyone but part of folks problems might be this stupid fallacy that if you put the magic tobacco plant back in your lip, you'll immediately go buy another log right away. Simply not true.
Id also be weary of anyone selling that idea. Because they probably have some sort of help they want to sell you. Like non-tobacco chews.
Not saying there is anything wrong with quitting (praise the Lord!) but just think about it. Everyone is looking to make a buck. What kind of quit is it if you have to stay a member of a website for 20 years to ensure you don't start chewing tobacco again. Is that really a quit you own or killthecan.org owns? That's my 2 cents, go ahead and flame on me all ya want.
I call it as I see it. And, for me personally, your site made me want to give up and keep on chewing. The little voice of reason (Holy Spirit) that said your site was full of shit and didn't quite get the full picture. Since I listened to the latter voice, I have now been nicotine free for 4 weeks, something I have never accomplished in over 15 years.
God is good.
Wish you luck pal,unfortunately lbj is wired a little different see ,I can't have just one.
Interesting read though. 'Popcorn'
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Okay, first time using the forums and, I gotta say, kind of odd forum that does not allow members to start new topics. Can tell I won't be spending much time here. Too bad, kind of a uniques site but, oh well.
Anyway, ended up finding this site at the end of 2013 and quit chewing in the beginning of January. This weekend, Feb 7 2014, will be 4 weeks without dipping.
This was only possible with Smokey Mountain chew my local Wal-Mart sells. Not real sure what made me finally quit: I am 30. I have chewed since I was 15.
I really hate not chewing tobacco, my life was much better when I was chewing it. Me and my wife do nothing but fight now, I have gained about 15 more pounds since quitting and I feel like shit all day. The crap folks have posted on this site about things improving are pretty much bullshit to me but perhaps it is different for each individual.
I would prefer to continue chewing tobacco but do not due to the cancer issue: there have been several guys in our community die from chewing tobacco cancers and it is the most horrific thing ever. Still, if I did not have a family, I would have kept chewing and simply had some type of 'accident' if diagnosed with one of these nasty cancers. That's probli a bit too real for most folks but, oh well.
My biggest problem with this site is how the main ideology behind this site is that you are an addict FOREVER; there is no hope, you can never be cured, you could start chewing at any moment, there is nothing you can do about it, etc., etc. When I first read that on this site, I was really depressed and kept right on chewing. Didn't visit the site anymore. But I thought about it for awhile and thought, ya know, that's a bullshit, hippie, 1980's, depressing, atheistic, woe-is-me attitude.
I don't do drugs. When I was in high school, I did them when I went to parties, which was the majority of the time. I grew up. When an old friend from high school came home to visit 3 years ago from Atlanta, she and I smoked out back, much to my wife's dismay. I didn't really want to but had never smoked with this person and gave it a try: it had been about 2 years since I had smoked weed before that. I ended up hating being high and paranoid and, of course, have not touched any since.
For some reason, say 4 years ago, I quit buying beer, going to the bar and partying. Just stopped with no real explanation. I think right now there may be two beers in the fridge. The last time I had a beer was about 5 weeks ago. The last time I was drunk was about a year and a half ago.
Now I will admit I was a raging alcoholic. Up until 5 years ago. I was also a pothead until I turned 20 and the world I was in (the beef show cattle world) looked down on that type of thing so I ditched it. Basically, I grew out of my addictions. I did not REMAIN an addict to this day. If I get drunk, I do not turn back into a raging alcholic and binge drink for 6 months straight and have to check into rehab. Neither will you: that's simply stupid.
Same thing if I smoke some green. This will probli not happen since I really can't stand smoking the shit anymore but if I chose to, I would NOT start smoking it every day. As far as any other substance, I'm not real worried cuz I think they are pointless and dangerous.Â
Point is, I grew up. Same reason I think I quit chewing: yes, it sucks but how many professional photographers do you know that sport a big old chaw while taking your HS senior's portrait? Not many. Same thing: I am growing out of it (thank the Lord, thought it would never happen.)
And once I realized all of this, I returned to killthecan.org and went to the alternative chew section of the site (the only useful part of the site, in my mind.) I found Smokey Mountain chew was sold at Wal-Mart, made a quick trip to the local store and picked up a bunch of tins and began mixing dips til my tin of Longhorn was gone beginning of January.
Now I'm addicted to SMC and that sucks but at least the biggest worry I now have is cavities from the excessive amounts of molasses. However, just wanted folks at this site to know that, IMO, I think it is silly to perpetrate the idea that if I have another dip in my life, I will instantly be driving to the 7-11 to buy a tin and be hooked, just like that again. It's been about 7 yeas since I quite smoking. In that time, I bet I have had about 10 cigarettes. I never did buy a pack of smokes in that time or take up smoking again. But, every now and then, I had a cigarette. Now? Can't stand the smell. Just outgrew it.
This idea that you are always a HOPELESS addict and nothing can ever change it is absolutely ridiculous, childish and counterproductive. This idea was brought about by schlock psychology in the eighties and I do not understand WHY it has stuck but if you do some research on modern thinking on the subject, the general concesus has changed since subjects and quitters reports do not match the supposed theories of yesteryear.
So, for those who have bought into this notion that you will ALWAYS be addicted to chew, it's simply not true. You could have a dip later in life and be just fine. You probli should not have one while you are transitioning to a non-tobacco lifestyle: that would probli help you backslide. But, a year or 2 down the road, you will probably be able to have a dip from a friend, savor it and not have another for a long time and be just fine with it. If you choose to back to chewing tobacco, that would be a pretty irresponsible choice but it is your choice. In my experience, however, no addiction is strong enough (save for cocaine, heroin, or other hardcore drugs) to have a hold like that over a years time. It is different for everyone but part of folks problems might be this stupid fallacy that if you put the magic tobacco plant back in your lip, you'll immediately go buy another log right away. Simply not true.
Id also be weary of anyone selling that idea. Because they probably have some sort of help they want to sell you. Like non-tobacco chews.
Not saying there is anything wrong with quitting (praise the Lord!) but just think about it. Everyone is looking to make a buck. What kind of quit is it if you have to stay a member of a website for 20 years to ensure you don't start chewing tobacco again. Is that really a quit you own or killthecan.org owns? That's my 2 cents, go ahead and flame on me all ya want.
I call it as I see it. And, for me personally, your site made me want to give up and keep on chewing. The little voice of reason (Holy Spirit) that said your site was full of shit and didn't quite get the full picture. Since I listened to the latter voice, I have now been nicotine free for 4 weeks, something I have never accomplished in over 15 years.
God is good.
Wish you luck pal,unfortunately lbj is wired a little different see ,I can't have just one.
Interesting read though. 'Popcorn'
Day 30 is about the time that you get "tired" of quitting, and start searching for normalcy. It's very common to see some flailing, and it's very common to see somebody declare "victory".
Day 30 is a drop in the bucket to a quit, and you've got a long way to go.
Tell you what...You quit your way, and I'll quit mine. Catch me in days quit (I'm at 950), and I'll try out your method. Otherwise, I'm sticking to what has worked for me and thousands others that have walked these halls here.
Oh, and read up on the rules of addiction. I expect a full report.
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Okay, first time using the forums and, I gotta say, kind of odd forum that does not allow members to start new topics. Can tell I won't be spending much time here. Too bad, kind of a uniques site but, oh well.
Anyway, ended up finding this site at the end of 2013 and quit chewing in the beginning of January. This weekend, Feb 7 2014, will be 4 weeks without dipping.
This was only possible with Smokey Mountain chew my local Wal-Mart sells. Not real sure what made me finally quit: I am 30. I have chewed since I was 15.
I really hate not chewing tobacco, my life was much better when I was chewing it. Me and my wife do nothing but fight now, I have gained about 15 more pounds since quitting and I feel like shit all day. The crap folks have posted on this site about things improving are pretty much bullshit to me but perhaps it is different for each individual.
I would prefer to continue chewing tobacco but do not due to the cancer issue: there have been several guys in our community die from chewing tobacco cancers and it is the most horrific thing ever. Still, if I did not have a family, I would have kept chewing and simply had some type of 'accident' if diagnosed with one of these nasty cancers. That's probli a bit too real for most folks but, oh well.
My biggest problem with this site is how the main ideology behind this site is that you are an addict FOREVER; there is no hope, you can never be cured, you could start chewing at any moment, there is nothing you can do about it, etc., etc. When I first read that on this site, I was really depressed and kept right on chewing. Didn't visit the site anymore. But I thought about it for awhile and thought, ya know, that's a bullshit, hippie, 1980's, depressing, atheistic, woe-is-me attitude.
I don't do drugs. When I was in high school, I did them when I went to parties, which was the majority of the time. I grew up. When an old friend from high school came home to visit 3 years ago from Atlanta, she and I smoked out back, much to my wife's dismay. I didn't really want to but had never smoked with this person and gave it a try: it had been about 2 years since I had smoked weed before that. I ended up hating being high and paranoid and, of course, have not touched any since.
For some reason, say 4 years ago, I quit buying beer, going to the bar and partying. Just stopped with no real explanation. I think right now there may be two beers in the fridge. The last time I had a beer was about 5 weeks ago. The last time I was drunk was about a year and a half ago.
Now I will admit I was a raging alcoholic. Up until 5 years ago. I was also a pothead until I turned 20 and the world I was in (the beef show cattle world) looked down on that type of thing so I ditched it. Basically, I grew out of my addictions. I did not REMAIN an addict to this day. If I get drunk, I do not turn back into a raging alcholic and binge drink for 6 months straight and have to check into rehab. Neither will you: that's simply stupid.
Same thing if I smoke some green. This will probli not happen since I really can't stand smoking the shit anymore but if I chose to, I would NOT start smoking it every day. As far as any other substance, I'm not real worried cuz I think they are pointless and dangerous.Â
Point is, I grew up. Same reason I think I quit chewing: yes, it sucks but how many professional photographers do you know that sport a big old chaw while taking your HS senior's portrait? Not many. Same thing: I am growing out of it (thank the Lord, thought it would never happen.)
And once I realized all of this, I returned to killthecan.org and went to the alternative chew section of the site (the only useful part of the site, in my mind.) I found Smokey Mountain chew was sold at Wal-Mart, made a quick trip to the local store and picked up a bunch of tins and began mixing dips til my tin of Longhorn was gone beginning of January.
Now I'm addicted to SMC and that sucks but at least the biggest worry I now have is cavities from the excessive amounts of molasses. However, just wanted folks at this site to know that, IMO, I think it is silly to perpetrate the idea that if I have another dip in my life, I will instantly be driving to the 7-11 to buy a tin and be hooked, just like that again. It's been about 7 yeas since I quite smoking. In that time, I bet I have had about 10 cigarettes. I never did buy a pack of smokes in that time or take up smoking again. But, every now and then, I had a cigarette. Now? Can't stand the smell. Just outgrew it.
This idea that you are always a HOPELESS addict and nothing can ever change it is absolutely ridiculous, childish and counterproductive. This idea was brought about by schlock psychology in the eighties and I do not understand WHY it has stuck but if you do some research on modern thinking on the subject, the general concesus has changed since subjects and quitters reports do not match the supposed theories of yesteryear.
So, for those who have bought into this notion that you will ALWAYS be addicted to chew, it's simply not true. You could have a dip later in life and be just fine. You probli should not have one while you are transitioning to a non-tobacco lifestyle: that would probli help you backslide. But, a year or 2 down the road, you will probably be able to have a dip from a friend, savor it and not have another for a long time and be just fine with it. If you choose to back to chewing tobacco, that would be a pretty irresponsible choice but it is your choice. In my experience, however, no addiction is strong enough (save for cocaine, heroin, or other hardcore drugs) to have a hold like that over a years time. It is different for everyone but part of folks problems might be this stupid fallacy that if you put the magic tobacco plant back in your lip, you'll immediately go buy another log right away. Simply not true.
Id also be weary of anyone selling that idea. Because they probably have some sort of help they want to sell you. Like non-tobacco chews.
Not saying there is anything wrong with quitting (praise the Lord!) but just think about it. Everyone is looking to make a buck. What kind of quit is it if you have to stay a member of a website for 20 years to ensure you don't start chewing tobacco again. Is that really a quit you own or killthecan.org owns? That's my 2 cents, go ahead and flame on me all ya want.
I call it as I see it. And, for me personally, your site made me want to give up and keep on chewing. The little voice of reason (Holy Spirit) that said your site was full of shit and didn't quite get the full picture. Since I listened to the latter voice, I have now been nicotine free for 4 weeks, something I have never accomplished in over 15 years.
God is good.
Wish you luck pal,unfortunately lbj is wired a little different see ,I can't have just one.
Interesting read though. 'Popcorn'
Day 30 is about the time that you get "tired" of quitting, and start searching for normalcy. It's very common to see some flailing, and it's very common to see somebody declare "victory".
Day 30 is a drop in the bucket to a quit, and you've got a long way to go.
Tell you what...You quit your way, and I'll quit mine. Catch me in days quit (I'm at 950), and I'll try out your method. Otherwise, I'm sticking to what has worked for me and thousands others that have walked these halls here.
Oh, and read up on the rules of addiction. I expect a full report.
Pure garbage. You douche.
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Wish you luck pal,unfortunately lbj is wired a little different see ,I can't have just one.
Interesting read though. 'Popcorn'
I do apologize for how snarky my post sounds, but it is meant more to evince a reaction than anything (mostly done for shock value).
But that is my point, lbj. It is TRUE: we all are unique. But, we also are all human. Some things are the same.
Take this because I truly want to offer it to you but you will need to completely open your mind for 1 moment. You say, you cannot have just one. That's how I was. When I was a youth, with weed. In my twenties, with beer. Whatever it is, I have a theory that we will all have a period where we try to escape the catalyst but we cannot have 'just one'.
So you quit. But you still are at the 'mentality' stage that, you can't have just one. To me, this also should not be considered a fully quit person who has been completely cured of their addiction. To me, when you reach the full curement of your addiction (meaning, you really no longer are addicted, or, you CAN now have just one,) is when you can confidently take a dip and chew it and that is it. Also, in my hypothesis, when you reach this mark, you will know because you will not be able to finish the dip because it will taste awful.
Sound like BS? Example: I can hardly finish a beer now. Most of the time, I end up dumping them down the drain. I have lost the taste for them. How? I believe I simply drank so many of them that I outgrew the taste. And that is when you have defeated an addiction.
I do not believe that you DEFEAT an addiction in the way we think but you actually OUTGROW an addiction, to put it more accurately. I mean this: if you think you cannot have just 1 dip or you could relapse, then that is true for your reality and you should not chew at ALL. But, this does not mean that you cannot grow to the point where you can have 1 chew and that be it. Again, when this happens, you probably won't like the taste, anyways.
Now, here is the basis of my theory: you can never OUTGROW the addiction IF you yourself BELIEVE that you can never have JUST one. I believe that our thoughts, through our subconcsious, greatly influence our biochemical makeup and tolerance for stress. So I theorize that if you believe when you are told that you will always be an addict to dip, you will actually always be an addict to dip, since that is what your mind has decided is true reality. If you begin to reject that notion, it crumbles and is no longer as concrete. You will then start to believe differently. At this point, you will no longer have to be worriying about staying quite, you will simply BE quit. Why? Your mind finally began to believe it. As long as you believe it, you are. You can have 3 dips and still be quit. Unless someone tells you (or you tell yourself) that having those 3 dips means you have to start all over again and you are no longer quite and are now fully addicted again, possibly worse than before. See how that works? Crazy shit.
Now, realistically, if you throw in 3 dips and chew them, yeah, you are probably not fully quit in the first place. This does not mean that you weren't quit, or are starting over, it just shows you where you are SUBCONSCIOUSLY. For me, I know I could not buy a tin of dip cuz I would chew the whole thing. I am not yet fully quit. How do I know when I am fully quit? I don't think you can fully put a number on it. I think it will be different for all of us. But I think it is defenitely related to how much personal growth we experience while we are quitting. And personal growth surrounding our attitudes toward using tobacco.
So, in summary, I am saying that perhaps a better attitude FOR YOU may be that currently, you cannot have JUST one. But, someday, you will be to the point where you could have JUST one. Not maybe, but DEFENITELY. And if you take that dip with the thought in mind that "Now I have made it, I can handle having just one dip, I have waited so long for this," that is where you will fail but not because you are a hopeless addict but that you have fooled yourself into thinking a certain thing so that you can have dip!
How you will know you have made it is when your honest answer becomes 'Yes, I could have just one and know that I will not become addicted. But, coincidentally, I don't even want ONE dip because I don't chew tobacco anymore." And yes, that day can come. And there will be nothing wrong if you have that dip. Most likely, it will taste like shit. Every cig I've ever had tasted like shit. Every puff of weed. Beer doesn't taste like shit, but it tastes a lot stronger than it ever did before.
I just think we all can have a much more successful time quitting if we start to downplay tobacco addiction to what it is: an immature and dangerous habit we formed in an ineffective attempt at managing our lives. If we start to treat it as such, it can become quite a bit more managable. Again, our reality is whatever we believe it to be.
If we make our quit out to be the worst thing ever, it will be. If we simply say, ah, this sucks, then it just sucks. Naps help. Herbal chew REALLY can help, I think.
But we can get rid of the addiction and I do not believe that we can never outgrow the addiction ever again. I think that is a very self defeating attitude, and, if it is true, then none of us should have ever quit in the first place.
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Wish you luck pal,unfortunately lbj is wired a little different see ,I can't have just one.
Interesting read though. 'Popcorn'
I do apologize for how snarky my post sounds, but it is meant more to evince a reaction than anything (mostly done for shock value).
But that is my point, lbj. It is TRUE: we all are unique. But, we also are all human. Some things are the same.
Take this because I truly want to offer it to you but you will need to completely open your mind for 1 moment. You say, you cannot have just one. That's how I was. When I was a youth, with weed. In my twenties, with beer. Whatever it is, I have a theory that we will all have a period where we try to escape the catalyst but we cannot have 'just one'.
So you quit. But you still are at the 'mentality' stage that, you can't have just one. To me, this also should not be considered a fully quit person who has been completely cured of their addiction. To me, when you reach the full curement of your addiction (meaning, you really no longer are addicted, or, you CAN now have just one,) is when you can confidently take a dip and chew it and that is it. Also, in my hypothesis, when you reach this mark, you will know because you will not be able to finish the dip because it will taste awful.
Sound like BS? Example: I can hardly finish a beer now. Most of the time, I end up dumping them down the drain. I have lost the taste for them. How? I believe I simply drank so many of them that I outgrew the taste. And that is when you have defeated an addiction.
I do not believe that you DEFEAT an addiction in the way we think but you actually OUTGROW an addiction, to put it more accurately. I mean this: if you think you cannot have just 1 dip or you could relapse, then that is true for your reality and you should not chew at ALL. But, this does not mean that you cannot grow to the point where you can have 1 chew and that be it. Again, when this happens, you probably won't like the taste, anyways.
Now, here is the basis of my theory: you can never OUTGROW the addiction IF you yourself BELIEVE that you can never have JUST one. I believe that our thoughts, through our subconcsious, greatly influence our biochemical makeup and tolerance for stress. So I theorize that if you believe when you are told that you will always be an addict to dip, you will actually always be an addict to dip, since that is what your mind has decided is true reality. If you begin to reject that notion, it crumbles and is no longer as concrete. You will then start to believe differently. At this point, you will no longer have to be worriying about staying quite, you will simply BE quit. Why? Your mind finally began to believe it. As long as you believe it, you are. You can have 3 dips and still be quit. Unless someone tells you (or you tell yourself) that having those 3 dips means you have to start all over again and you are no longer quite and are now fully addicted again, possibly worse than before. See how that works? Crazy shit.
Now, realistically, if you throw in 3 dips and chew them, yeah, you are probably not fully quit in the first place. This does not mean that you weren't quit, or are starting over, it just shows you where you are SUBCONSCIOUSLY. For me, I know I could not buy a tin of dip cuz I would chew the whole thing. I am not yet fully quit. How do I know when I am fully quit? I don't think you can fully put a number on it. I think it will be different for all of us. But I think it is defenitely related to how much personal growth we experience while we are quitting. And personal growth surrounding our attitudes toward using tobacco.
So, in summary, I am saying that perhaps a better attitude FOR YOU may be that currently, you cannot have JUST one. But, someday, you will be to the point where you could have JUST one. Not maybe, but DEFENITELY. And if you take that dip with the thought in mind that "Now I have made it, I can handle having just one dip, I have waited so long for this," that is where you will fail but not because you are a hopeless addict but that you have fooled yourself into thinking a certain thing so that you can have dip!
How you will know you have made it is when your honest answer becomes 'Yes, I could have just one and know that I will not become addicted. But, coincidentally, I don't even want ONE dip because I don't chew tobacco anymore." And yes, that day can come. And there will be nothing wrong if you have that dip. Most likely, it will taste like shit. Every cig I've ever had tasted like shit. Every puff of weed. Beer doesn't taste like shit, but it tastes a lot stronger than it ever did before.
I just think we all can have a much more successful time quitting if we start to downplay tobacco addiction to what it is: an immature and dangerous habit we formed in an ineffective attempt at managing our lives. If we start to treat it as such, it can become quite a bit more managable. Again, our reality is whatever we believe it to be.
If we make our quit out to be the worst thing ever, it will be. If we simply say, ah, this sucks, then it just sucks. Naps help. Herbal chew REALLY can help, I think.
But we can get rid of the addiction and I do not believe that we can never outgrow the addiction ever again. I think that is a very self defeating attitude, and, if it is true, then none of us should have ever quit in the first place.
not sure if it is the enjoyment of reading fiction or what, but a little research into brain chemistry and physiology are needed here for you as maybe you will learn that once you have created the pathways in your brain, they will be there and any relapse will set you back to worse that what you were.
and yes we put ourselves in this situation, and yes it is a lifelong fight, but it is a fight that can be won, and the further out we go, the less energy it takes to fight and the better we feel.
so you keep your own unproven theories and we here will keep doing what is the best for us (and is the best way to quit and stay quit that I out on the market)....and that is a fact.
lbj I will join you my brother for some 'Popcorn'
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Day 30 is about the time that you get "tired" of quitting, and start searching for normalcy. It's very common to see some flailing, and it's very common to see somebody declare "victory".
Day 30 is a drop in the bucket to a quit, and you've got a long way to go.
Tell you what...You quit your way, and I'll quit mine. Catch me in days quit (I'm at 950), and I'll try out your method. Otherwise, I'm sticking to what has worked for me and thousands others that have walked these halls here.
Oh, and read up on the rules of addiction. I expect a full report.
That is the crappy thing about my post, is it makes someone like you look like you have not accomplished something wonderful.
Awesome, dude, on your quit, and I would love to talk with you about it so that I can successfully make it to that point.
One thing that irritates me is I kind of believed a lot of what I read on the site about the 30 day mark: I feel just as terrible as the first week, hardly any better. I am gonna go to the doctor soon if this doesn't change but I think it is still withdrawals, even if they are only psycholgical.
No, I do not feel at this point like, I got this, I feel quite the opposite. My post is actually quite different and is geared at the person like you, at the 950 day mark. My point is simply that I disagree with the mindset that you will always be an addict and are helpless to change that fact. I don't buy it. I think it is 1980's collectivism psychology inplemented to control a society with crippling and debilitating ideas and morals.
As far as the rules of addction: are you referring to the ones posted here on killthecan.org? I read those: they are what originally made me give up my quit and keep on chewing.
Those are the rules I was referring to as being wrong, they were written in the mid to early eighties, I believe. A lot of rehab centers to this day still stick with those types of rules of addiction though there have been some new research into the types of things I am referencing, but, alas, they are met with heavy opposition since the majority of the masses have been so indoctrinated with the old idea.
So, thanks for the reply, but I wasn't really talking about quitting but more once you are quit. The point came up on another site concerning Hoffman's death. If he was told in countless rehab stints that he would always be a heroin addict and he was always 1 step away from death, is it really any surprise that he relapsed and died? If you listen to the same thing for long enough, you start to believe it.
I believe it is our personal responsibility to decide what it is we are going to believe and not simply accept everything as truth because someone with a PhD wrote it. I think we also should take into consideration the facts that those ppl with the PhD's also make millions from running clinics to help ppl with their addictions. If you truly cure those ppl right away forever, they won't really make good repeat customers, do they? Not trying to be snarky, just food for thought.
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Day 30 is about the time that you get "tired" of quitting, and start searching for normalcy. It's very common to see some flailing, and it's very common to see somebody declare "victory".
Day 30 is a drop in the bucket to a quit, and you've got a long way to go.
Tell you what...You quit your way, and I'll quit mine. Catch me in days quit (I'm at 950), and I'll try out your method. Otherwise, I'm sticking to what has worked for me and thousands others that have walked these halls here.
Oh, and read up on the rules of addiction. I expect a full report.
That is the crappy thing about my post, is it makes someone like you look like you have not accomplished something wonderful.
Awesome, dude, on your quit, and I would love to talk with you about it so that I can successfully make it to that point.
One thing that irritates me is I kind of believed a lot of what I read on the site about the 30 day mark: I feel just as terrible as the first week, hardly any better. I am gonna go to the doctor soon if this doesn't change but I think it is still withdrawals, even if they are only psycholgical.
No, I do not feel at this point like, I got this, I feel quite the opposite. My post is actually quite different and is geared at the person like you, at the 950 day mark. My point is simply that I disagree with the mindset that you will always be an addict and are helpless to change that fact. I don't buy it. I think it is 1980's collectivism psychology inplemented to control a society with crippling and debilitating ideas and morals.
As far as the rules of addction: are you referring to the ones posted here on killthecan.org? I read those: they are what originally made me give up my quit and keep on chewing.
Those are the rules I was referring to as being wrong, they were written in the mid to early eighties, I believe. A lot of rehab centers to this day still stick with those types of rules of addiction though there have been some new research into the types of things I am referencing, but, alas, they are met with heavy opposition since the majority of the masses have been so indoctrinated with the old idea.
So, thanks for the reply, but I wasn't really talking about quitting but more once you are quit. The point came up on another site concerning Hoffman's death. If he was told in countless rehab stints that he would always be a heroin addict and he was always 1 step away from death, is it really any surprise that he relapsed and died? If you listen to the same thing for long enough, you start to believe it.
I believe it is our personal responsibility to decide what it is we are going to believe and not simply accept everything as truth because someone with a PhD wrote it. I think we also should take into consideration the facts that those ppl with the PhD's also make millions from running clinics to help ppl with their addictions. If you truly cure those ppl right away forever, they won't really make good repeat customers, do they? Not trying to be snarky, just food for thought.
I wrote this a few years ago, and I believe it is very pertinent to your posts today:
So, this is 6 months quit...
I really thought CNC, Moe, and myself were clear that being a retread is not all the fun and games people make it out to be. We screamed how important it is to post roll everyday. We've practiced it for close to 200 days now. Yet, the basterds keep falling off roll one by one.
It pisses me off because I fell off the posting wagon early in 2007. I stopped posting around 150 days in that stoppage. I didn't cave right away. I was "quit"!
In the next 850 plus days, my brain began ridding itself of my addict thoughts. It started with the nicotine cravings and ended with the tools I learned that kept me quit. The greatest lie ever is an addict convincing himself he's cured.Â
I never planned caved. I got drunk, and I asked to bum one off of my friend. It was that simple. No warning lights went off. I hadn't even thought about the site in quite a while. I said "That sounds good" and I was off. I didn't feel bad afterwards either. It was gross, and I spit it out fairly quickly.
I did not think about it again for about a week. Unfortunately, I started a timer in my body that was going to lead to it returning to a dependent state.
The next week, the nic bitch was in my ear.
Scott....you're the man. You used to chew all the time. Not anymore. Hell, you chewed last week with no cravings or thoughts of it until now. It's true. You can't get re-addicted with just one. In fact...I bet you could chew with your friends now. Just don't buy a can...
So I did.Â
Everytime I saw my friends, I was chewing again. Until they got pissed over all the bumming I was doing...
Scott...It's not fair these guys have to give up their hard earned money all the time. Would you be happy if they kept coming over and drinking your beer? Just buy a can and toss it afterwards. Kara will never know...
So I did.
I bought a can for $4.50 everytime I went out with my friends (or I was drinking and my wife wasn't around). I would have 3-4 chews a night on these occasions (1 night a week) for the next month or so. At first, I'd toss the can the moment I got in the car. Gradually, it was as I was pulling into my neighborhood.
Until one day...
Scott...Are you really going to waste that? You have a good $3.00 worth of chew. You can keep it in your car and just get out when you're going out with your friends. That's just being thrifty, man. You're strong, and it's not like you're re-addicted....
So I did.
I put the can in the glove compartment and would forget about it until I was going out (until tax season started though). Tax season sucks. You give up 3 good months of your life and everybody in it. I was working much more, and my stress level was through the roof. One night, as I was coming home from work at 1:30 am, my can beckoned me.
Scott...I can relax you. You still reach for me out of habit when you get stuck on a tax return. I've always been there to help you out, and I'm willing to do it again. As long as you're not chewing at home, you're fine. That's how you can stay control of me, ok?
So I did.
By March of 2010, I was back to chewing as much as I could. I didn't see my wife that often, and would sneak downstairs to "work on taxes". When I did see her, we were in bed, waking up from the bed, or eating a meal.Â
I was chewing all day long, but I wasn't re-addicted. Nope...I was in control.
Yet I had started chewing at home because I wanted to.
I didn't care anymore. I liked chewing. It relaxed me. It made me a better worker. It took the edge off. And I was dreading April 15 because it meant I was going to have to be home more and I could not go an entire evening without chewing.
My wife had just cleaned the kitchen floor. I had been putting in chews over the garbage can to assure there was no sprinkles on the floor. I missed that day. She grabbed a napkin, and started picking it up. She looked at it, and asked me if I had anything I wanted to tell her. I told her I started chewing again. It felt great to be free.
She was pissed.
I didn't care. I now had an excuse to chew all day long, everyday. No fucking hiding it. No pretending that I'm quit. Just cancer weed all day long.
It took me from October 25, 2009 to March 2010 for this process to complete. It wasn't overnight. It was a series of compromises I made with myself. I never craved initially. I never thought about the negative consequences or the board. It was a sneaky process, but deep down I knew. I knew the path I was on.
I am 184 days quit today. I have yet to miss a roll call.Â
That was my promise to myself when I returned. I forgot everything last time because I stopped posting roll. I stopped reminding myself how bad I was beforehand, and I stopped soiling nicotine's name. I forgot.
I will never forget again because I don't want to fucking do this again. There's way too good of a life that exists outside of a physically addicted state. I can run around with my boys. I don't have to explain what "Skoal Straight" is to a 7 year old. I don't have sneak a chew in before coaching his tee ball team. I don't have to pre-plan to kiss my wife. My temperature doesn't go up to 175 degrees the moment I am done eating. I don't wake up with that shit on my face. My shower doesn't clog because I 've spit a wad into the drain. Clients don't give me wierd looks when they realize I am, in fact, sporting a fatty in a meeting.
I give 30 seconds each morning for that freedom. There are no compromises on that. A cave is a compromise wrapped in lies. The rules are simple:
(1)Â Post roll.
(2)Â Stay quit.
(3)Â Repeat.
Please tell me where there is room to compromise in there. If you skip step 1, then are you supposed to skip it all the time since step 3 is "repeat"?  How long until you start skipping step 2? 850 days?Â
Best.Return On Investment.Ever.
30 days is freaking awesome man.
We post roll here not to dwell on our addiction, but to celebrate our freedom. Do you lock your door at night? Even when burglars are not in sight? Do you buckle your seat belt in the car? Even though you're driving safely? The point of roll is not be sad about addiction. It is a reminder. It's me saying "Oh, yeah...I can't have just one." (And if you read my words above, you'll see I've been there with the "just one" mentality and it failed splendidly.)
Stick around. You're fun.
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not sure if it is the enjoyment of reading fiction or what, but a little research into brain chemistry and physiology are needed here for you as maybe you will learn that once you have created the pathways in your brain, they will be there and any relapse will set you back to worse that what you were.
and yes we put ourselves in this situation, and yes it is a lifelong fight, but it is a fight that can be won, and the further out we go, the less energy it takes to fight and the better we feel.
so you keep your own unproven theories and we here will keep doing what is the best for us (and is the best way to quit and stay quit that I out on the market)....and that is a fact.
lbj I will join you my brother for some 'Popcorn'
Interesting that you refer to opinions as fiction but that is fine.
If you reread what I wrote, you will see that what I am saying is this:
for you, your reality is that the papers and research you have read about biochemistry and neural pathways being permanent are infallible truth (yes, I have read these articles as well and when I get a moment, I will post some links to newer articles that are where I forged my ideas from, it is not all simply fiction). They also used to think that the world is flat.
Now, I did not say that your way of quitting is wrong. Awesome. The original post was not about quitting but about the always addicted thing, which you mention with the neural pathways findings. My point is that these works were researched and published and supported by an FDA that stands to gain more from this type of idea than the one I have presented, which is not profitable on their end. Since their idea is the one you know, it works for you.
I simply present an argument for a much more empowered and free reality after the enslavement of nicotine. We all are free to choose what we believe and that is fine. We also live in a society where we should be able to enjoy freedom of speech and that is all I have done, take it or leave it.
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Relevant reading (Heard the author is a doosh though) (http://www.quit4today.com/blog/2014/02/philip-seymour-hoffman-he-chose-to-use/)
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30 days is freaking awesome man.
We post roll here not to dwell on our addiction, but to celebrate our freedom. Do you lock your door at night? Even when burglars are not in sight? Do you buckle your seat belt in the car? Even though you're driving safely? The point of roll is not be sad about addiction. It is a reminder. It's me saying "Oh, yeah...I can't have just one." (And if you read my words above, you'll see I've been there with the "just one" mentality and it failed splendidly.)
Stick around. You're fun.
You misinterpreted my post a bit.
Im not talking so much about 30 day mark, more like where you were when you relapsed. And I tried to address that in a post: I'm saying that it was not inevitable for you to relapse, even if that is how it felt. I allege that even if you had NOT taken that dip at the party, that shortly after that, you would have taken one somehwere else. And it had more to do with where you were mentailty wise in your quit as opposed to a day marker.
I think your guys roll call idea is great. And I think the site is great. But I think the American idea that addiction is scientifically permenant is untrue and detrimental to Americans. And I will post some articles for source material for you guys, gotta run to the store right now.
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30 days is freaking awesome man.
We post roll here not to dwell on our addiction, but to celebrate our freedom. Do you lock your door at night? Even when burglars are not in sight? Do you buckle your seat belt in the car? Even though you're driving safely? The point of roll is not be sad about addiction. It is a reminder. It's me saying "Oh, yeah...I can't have just one." (And if you read my words above, you'll see I've been there with the "just one" mentality and it failed splendidly.)
Stick around. You're fun.
You misinterpreted my post a bit.
Im not talking so much about 30 day mark, more like where you were when you relapsed. And I tried to address that in a post: I'm saying that it was not inevitable for you to relapse, even if that is how it felt. I allege that even if you had NOT taken that dip at the party, that shortly after that, you would have taken one somehwere else. And it had more to do with where you were mentailty wise in your quit as opposed to a day marker.
I think your guys roll call idea is great. And I think the site is great. But I think the American idea that addiction is scientifically permenant is untrue and detrimental to Americans. And I will post some articles for source material for you guys, gotta run to the store right now.
As long as you are quit, you are always welcome.
However, to play on our equipment, you do have to post roll. We've been lenient tonight as you are still acclimating yourself, but please feel free to join us.
I look forward to our talks man!
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Wish you luck pal,unfortunately lbj is wired a little different see ,I can't have just one.
Interesting read though. 'Popcorn'
I do apologize for how snarky my post sounds, but it is meant more to evince a reaction than anything (mostly done for shock value).
But that is my point, lbj. It is TRUE: we all are unique. But, we also are all human. Some things are the same.
Take this because I truly want to offer it to you but you will need to completely open your mind for 1 moment. You say, you cannot have just one. That's how I was. When I was a youth, with weed. In my twenties, with beer. Whatever it is, I have a theory that we will all have a period where we try to escape the catalyst but we cannot have 'just one'.
So you quit. But you still are at the 'mentality' stage that, you can't have just one. To me, this also should not be considered a fully quit person who has been completely cured of their addiction. To me, when you reach the full curement of your addiction (meaning, you really no longer are addicted, or, you CAN now have just one,) is when you can confidently take a dip and chew it and that is it. Also, in my hypothesis, when you reach this mark, you will know because you will not be able to finish the dip because it will taste awful.
Sound like BS? Example: I can hardly finish a beer now. Most of the time, I end up dumping them down the drain. I have lost the taste for them. How? I believe I simply drank so many of them that I outgrew the taste. And that is when you have defeated an addiction.
I do not believe that you DEFEAT an addiction in the way we think but you actually OUTGROW an addiction, to put it more accurately. I mean this: if you think you cannot have just 1 dip or you could relapse, then that is true for your reality and you should not chew at ALL. But, this does not mean that you cannot grow to the point where you can have 1 chew and that be it. Again, when this happens, you probably won't like the taste, anyways.
Now, here is the basis of my theory: you can never OUTGROW the addiction IF you yourself BELIEVE that you can never have JUST one. I believe that our thoughts, through our subconcsious, greatly influence our biochemical makeup and tolerance for stress. So I theorize that if you believe when you are told that you will always be an addict to dip, you will actually always be an addict to dip, since that is what your mind has decided is true reality. If you begin to reject that notion, it crumbles and is no longer as concrete. You will then start to believe differently. At this point, you will no longer have to be worriying about staying quite, you will simply BE quit. Why? Your mind finally began to believe it. As long as you believe it, you are. You can have 3 dips and still be quit. Unless someone tells you (or you tell yourself) that having those 3 dips means you have to start all over again and you are no longer quite and are now fully addicted again, possibly worse than before. See how that works? Crazy shit.
Now, realistically, if you throw in 3 dips and chew them, yeah, you are probably not fully quit in the first place. This does not mean that you weren't quit, or are starting over, it just shows you where you are SUBCONSCIOUSLY. For me, I know I could not buy a tin of dip cuz I would chew the whole thing. I am not yet fully quit. How do I know when I am fully quit? I don't think you can fully put a number on it. I think it will be different for all of us. But I think it is defenitely related to how much personal growth we experience while we are quitting. And personal growth surrounding our attitudes toward using tobacco.
So, in summary, I am saying that perhaps a better attitude FOR YOU may be that currently, you cannot have JUST one. But, someday, you will be to the point where you could have JUST one. Not maybe, but DEFENITELY. And if you take that dip with the thought in mind that "Now I have made it, I can handle having just one dip, I have waited so long for this," that is where you will fail but not because you are a hopeless addict but that you have fooled yourself into thinking a certain thing so that you can have dip!
How you will know you have made it is when your honest answer becomes 'Yes, I could have just one and know that I will not become addicted. But, coincidentally, I don't even want ONE dip because I don't chew tobacco anymore." And yes, that day can come. And there will be nothing wrong if you have that dip. Most likely, it will taste like shit. Every cig I've ever had tasted like shit. Every puff of weed. Beer doesn't taste like shit, but it tastes a lot stronger than it ever did before.
I just think we all can have a much more successful time quitting if we start to downplay tobacco addiction to what it is: an immature and dangerous habit we formed in an ineffective attempt at managing our lives. If we start to treat it as such, it can become quite a bit more managable. Again, our reality is whatever we believe it to be.
If we make our quit out to be the worst thing ever, it will be. If we simply say, ah, this sucks, then it just sucks. Naps help. Herbal chew REALLY can help, I think.
But we can get rid of the addiction and I do not believe that we can never outgrow the addiction ever again. I think that is a very self defeating attitude, and, if it is true, then none of us should have ever quit in the first place.
Ok Einstein, if you don't like it, get the fuck out.
This is your only warning.
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Wish you luck pal,unfortunately lbj is wired a little different see ,I can't have just one.
Interesting read though. 'Popcorn'
I do apologize for how snarky my post sounds, but it is meant more to evince a reaction than anything (mostly done for shock value).
But that is my point, lbj. It is TRUE: we all are unique. But, we also are all human. Some things are the same.
Take this because I truly want to offer it to you but you will need to completely open your mind for 1 moment. You say, you cannot have just one. That's how I was. When I was a youth, with weed. In my twenties, with beer. Whatever it is, I have a theory that we will all have a period where we try to escape the catalyst but we cannot have 'just one'.
So you quit. But you still are at the 'mentality' stage that, you can't have just one. To me, this also should not be considered a fully quit person who has been completely cured of their addiction. To me, when you reach the full curement of your addiction (meaning, you really no longer are addicted, or, you CAN now have just one,) is when you can confidently take a dip and chew it and that is it. Also, in my hypothesis, when you reach this mark, you will know because you will not be able to finish the dip because it will taste awful.
Sound like BS? Example: I can hardly finish a beer now. Most of the time, I end up dumping them down the drain. I have lost the taste for them. How? I believe I simply drank so many of them that I outgrew the taste. And that is when you have defeated an addiction.
I do not believe that you DEFEAT an addiction in the way we think but you actually OUTGROW an addiction, to put it more accurately. I mean this: if you think you cannot have just 1 dip or you could relapse, then that is true for your reality and you should not chew at ALL. But, this does not mean that you cannot grow to the point where you can have 1 chew and that be it. Again, when this happens, you probably won't like the taste, anyways.
Now, here is the basis of my theory: you can never OUTGROW the addiction IF you yourself BELIEVE that you can never have JUST one. I believe that our thoughts, through our subconcsious, greatly influence our biochemical makeup and tolerance for stress. So I theorize that if you believe when you are told that you will always be an addict to dip, you will actually always be an addict to dip, since that is what your mind has decided is true reality. If you begin to reject that notion, it crumbles and is no longer as concrete. You will then start to believe differently. At this point, you will no longer have to be worriying about staying quite, you will simply BE quit. Why? Your mind finally began to believe it. As long as you believe it, you are. You can have 3 dips and still be quit. Unless someone tells you (or you tell yourself) that having those 3 dips means you have to start all over again and you are no longer quite and are now fully addicted again, possibly worse than before. See how that works? Crazy shit.
Now, realistically, if you throw in 3 dips and chew them, yeah, you are probably not fully quit in the first place. This does not mean that you weren't quit, or are starting over, it just shows you where you are SUBCONSCIOUSLY. For me, I know I could not buy a tin of dip cuz I would chew the whole thing. I am not yet fully quit. How do I know when I am fully quit? I don't think you can fully put a number on it. I think it will be different for all of us. But I think it is defenitely related to how much personal growth we experience while we are quitting. And personal growth surrounding our attitudes toward using tobacco.
So, in summary, I am saying that perhaps a better attitude FOR YOU may be that currently, you cannot have JUST one. But, someday, you will be to the point where you could have JUST one. Not maybe, but DEFENITELY. And if you take that dip with the thought in mind that "Now I have made it, I can handle having just one dip, I have waited so long for this," that is where you will fail but not because you are a hopeless addict but that you have fooled yourself into thinking a certain thing so that you can have dip!
How you will know you have made it is when your honest answer becomes 'Yes, I could have just one and know that I will not become addicted. But, coincidentally, I don't even want ONE dip because I don't chew tobacco anymore." And yes, that day can come. And there will be nothing wrong if you have that dip. Most likely, it will taste like shit. Every cig I've ever had tasted like shit. Every puff of weed. Beer doesn't taste like shit, but it tastes a lot stronger than it ever did before.
I just think we all can have a much more successful time quitting if we start to downplay tobacco addiction to what it is: an immature and dangerous habit we formed in an ineffective attempt at managing our lives. If we start to treat it as such, it can become quite a bit more managable. Again, our reality is whatever we believe it to be.
If we make our quit out to be the worst thing ever, it will be. If we simply say, ah, this sucks, then it just sucks. Naps help. Herbal chew REALLY can help, I think.
But we can get rid of the addiction and I do not believe that we can never outgrow the addiction ever again. I think that is a very self defeating attitude, and, if it is true, then none of us should have ever quit in the first place.
Ok Einstein, if you don't like it, get the fuck out.
This is your only warning.
Finally. Someone thinking clearly.
Dude. Post roll to play on this playground. Thats the price of admission. If you dont like KTC there are other options that will better meet your ideology.
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Wish you luck pal,unfortunately lbj is wired a little different see ,I can't have just one.
Interesting read though. 'Popcorn'
I do apologize for how snarky my post sounds, but it is meant more to evince a reaction than anything (mostly done for shock value).
But that is my point, lbj. It is TRUE: we all are unique. But, we also are all human. Some things are the same.
Take this because I truly want to offer it to you but you will need to completely open your mind for 1 moment. You say, you cannot have just one. That's how I was. When I was a youth, with weed. In my twenties, with beer. Whatever it is, I have a theory that we will all have a period where we try to escape the catalyst but we cannot have 'just one'.
So you quit. But you still are at the 'mentality' stage that, you can't have just one. To me, this also should not be considered a fully quit person who has been completely cured of their addiction. To me, when you reach the full curement of your addiction (meaning, you really no longer are addicted, or, you CAN now have just one,) is when you can confidently take a dip and chew it and that is it. Also, in my hypothesis, when you reach this mark, you will know because you will not be able to finish the dip because it will taste awful.
Sound like BS? Example: I can hardly finish a beer now. Most of the time, I end up dumping them down the drain. I have lost the taste for them. How? I believe I simply drank so many of them that I outgrew the taste. And that is when you have defeated an addiction.
I do not believe that you DEFEAT an addiction in the way we think but you actually OUTGROW an addiction, to put it more accurately. I mean this: if you think you cannot have just 1 dip or you could relapse, then that is true for your reality and you should not chew at ALL. But, this does not mean that you cannot grow to the point where you can have 1 chew and that be it. Again, when this happens, you probably won't like the taste, anyways.
Now, here is the basis of my theory: you can never OUTGROW the addiction IF you yourself BELIEVE that you can never have JUST one. I believe that our thoughts, through our subconcsious, greatly influence our biochemical makeup and tolerance for stress. So I theorize that if you believe when you are told that you will always be an addict to dip, you will actually always be an addict to dip, since that is what your mind has decided is true reality. If you begin to reject that notion, it crumbles and is no longer as concrete. You will then start to believe differently. At this point, you will no longer have to be worriying about staying quite, you will simply BE quit. Why? Your mind finally began to believe it. As long as you believe it, you are. You can have 3 dips and still be quit. Unless someone tells you (or you tell yourself) that having those 3 dips means you have to start all over again and you are no longer quite and are now fully addicted again, possibly worse than before. See how that works? Crazy shit.
Now, realistically, if you throw in 3 dips and chew them, yeah, you are probably not fully quit in the first place. This does not mean that you weren't quit, or are starting over, it just shows you where you are SUBCONSCIOUSLY. For me, I know I could not buy a tin of dip cuz I would chew the whole thing. I am not yet fully quit. How do I know when I am fully quit? I don't think you can fully put a number on it. I think it will be different for all of us. But I think it is defenitely related to how much personal growth we experience while we are quitting. And personal growth surrounding our attitudes toward using tobacco.
So, in summary, I am saying that perhaps a better attitude FOR YOU may be that currently, you cannot have JUST one. But, someday, you will be to the point where you could have JUST one. Not maybe, but DEFENITELY. And if you take that dip with the thought in mind that "Now I have made it, I can handle having just one dip, I have waited so long for this," that is where you will fail but not because you are a hopeless addict but that you have fooled yourself into thinking a certain thing so that you can have dip!
How you will know you have made it is when your honest answer becomes 'Yes, I could have just one and know that I will not become addicted. But, coincidentally, I don't even want ONE dip because I don't chew tobacco anymore." And yes, that day can come. And there will be nothing wrong if you have that dip. Most likely, it will taste like shit. Every cig I've ever had tasted like shit. Every puff of weed. Beer doesn't taste like shit, but it tastes a lot stronger than it ever did before.
I just think we all can have a much more successful time quitting if we start to downplay tobacco addiction to what it is: an immature and dangerous habit we formed in an ineffective attempt at managing our lives. If we start to treat it as such, it can become quite a bit more managable. Again, our reality is whatever we believe it to be.
If we make our quit out to be the worst thing ever, it will be. If we simply say, ah, this sucks, then it just sucks. Naps help. Herbal chew REALLY can help, I think.
But we can get rid of the addiction and I do not believe that we can never outgrow the addiction ever again. I think that is a very self defeating attitude, and, if it is true, then none of us should have ever quit in the first place.
not sure if it is the enjoyment of reading fiction or what, but a little research into brain chemistry and physiology are needed here for you as maybe you will learn that once you have created the pathways in your brain, they will be there and any relapse will set you back to worse that what you were.
and yes we put ourselves in this situation, and yes it is a lifelong fight, but it is a fight that can be won, and the further out we go, the less energy it takes to fight and the better we feel.
so you keep your own unproven theories and we here will keep doing what is the best for us (and is the best way to quit and stay quit that I out on the market)....and that is a fact.
lbj I will join you my brother for some 'Popcorn'
I'm with lbj and sirderek, I've tested my wiring over 40+ years of being addicted. I've had several times I paused for several months to 3 years and each time one dip led me to using more than I did when I had stopped.
I don't know your purpose here but obviously it isn't quitting. I believe this is pure bullshit and ask the administrators to ban you because I don't believe you are quit, you aren't posting roll and you are plainly a troll! 'Finger'
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Wish you luck pal,unfortunately lbj is wired a little different see ,I can't have just one.
Interesting read though. 'Popcorn'
I do apologize for how snarky my post sounds, but it is meant more to evince a reaction than anything (mostly done for shock value).
But that is my point, lbj. It is TRUE: we all are unique. But, we also are all human. Some things are the same.
Take this because I truly want to offer it to you but you will need to completely open your mind for 1 moment. You say, you cannot have just one. That's how I was. When I was a youth, with weed. In my twenties, with beer. Whatever it is, I have a theory that we will all have a period where we try to escape the catalyst but we cannot have 'just one'.
So you quit. But you still are at the 'mentality' stage that, you can't have just one. To me, this also should not be considered a fully quit person who has been completely cured of their addiction. To me, when you reach the full curement of your addiction (meaning, you really no longer are addicted, or, you CAN now have just one,) is when you can confidently take a dip and chew it and that is it. Also, in my hypothesis, when you reach this mark, you will know because you will not be able to finish the dip because it will taste awful.
Sound like BS? Example: I can hardly finish a beer now. Most of the time, I end up dumping them down the drain. I have lost the taste for them. How? I believe I simply drank so many of them that I outgrew the taste. And that is when you have defeated an addiction.
I do not believe that you DEFEAT an addiction in the way we think but you actually OUTGROW an addiction, to put it more accurately. I mean this: if you think you cannot have just 1 dip or you could relapse, then that is true for your reality and you should not chew at ALL. But, this does not mean that you cannot grow to the point where you can have 1 chew and that be it. Again, when this happens, you probably won't like the taste, anyways.
Now, here is the basis of my theory: you can never OUTGROW the addiction IF you yourself BELIEVE that you can never have JUST one. I believe that our thoughts, through our subconcsious, greatly influence our biochemical makeup and tolerance for stress. So I theorize that if you believe when you are told that you will always be an addict to dip, you will actually always be an addict to dip, since that is what your mind has decided is true reality. If you begin to reject that notion, it crumbles and is no longer as concrete. You will then start to believe differently. At this point, you will no longer have to be worriying about staying quite, you will simply BE quit. Why? Your mind finally began to believe it. As long as you believe it, you are. You can have 3 dips and still be quit. Unless someone tells you (or you tell yourself) that having those 3 dips means you have to start all over again and you are no longer quite and are now fully addicted again, possibly worse than before. See how that works? Crazy shit.
Now, realistically, if you throw in 3 dips and chew them, yeah, you are probably not fully quit in the first place. This does not mean that you weren't quit, or are starting over, it just shows you where you are SUBCONSCIOUSLY. For me, I know I could not buy a tin of dip cuz I would chew the whole thing. I am not yet fully quit. How do I know when I am fully quit? I don't think you can fully put a number on it. I think it will be different for all of us. But I think it is defenitely related to how much personal growth we experience while we are quitting. And personal growth surrounding our attitudes toward using tobacco.
So, in summary, I am saying that perhaps a better attitude FOR YOU may be that currently, you cannot have JUST one. But, someday, you will be to the point where you could have JUST one. Not maybe, but DEFENITELY. And if you take that dip with the thought in mind that "Now I have made it, I can handle having just one dip, I have waited so long for this," that is where you will fail but not because you are a hopeless addict but that you have fooled yourself into thinking a certain thing so that you can have dip!
How you will know you have made it is when your honest answer becomes 'Yes, I could have just one and know that I will not become addicted. But, coincidentally, I don't even want ONE dip because I don't chew tobacco anymore." And yes, that day can come. And there will be nothing wrong if you have that dip. Most likely, it will taste like shit. Every cig I've ever had tasted like shit. Every puff of weed. Beer doesn't taste like shit, but it tastes a lot stronger than it ever did before.
I just think we all can have a much more successful time quitting if we start to downplay tobacco addiction to what it is: an immature and dangerous habit we formed in an ineffective attempt at managing our lives. If we start to treat it as such, it can become quite a bit more managable. Again, our reality is whatever we believe it to be.
If we make our quit out to be the worst thing ever, it will be. If we simply say, ah, this sucks, then it just sucks. Naps help. Herbal chew REALLY can help, I think.
But we can get rid of the addiction and I do not believe that we can never outgrow the addiction ever again. I think that is a very self defeating attitude, and, if it is true, then none of us should have ever quit in the first place.
not sure if it is the enjoyment of reading fiction or what, but a little research into brain chemistry and physiology are needed here for you as maybe you will learn that once you have created the pathways in your brain, they will be there and any relapse will set you back to worse that what you were.
and yes we put ourselves in this situation, and yes it is a lifelong fight, but it is a fight that can be won, and the further out we go, the less energy it takes to fight and the better we feel.
so you keep your own unproven theories and we here will keep doing what is the best for us (and is the best way to quit and stay quit that I out on the market)....and that is a fact.
lbj I will join you my brother for some 'Popcorn'
I'm with lbj and sirderek, I've tested my wiring over 40+ years of being addicted. I've had several times I paused for several months to 3 years and each time on dip led me to using more than I did when I had stopped.
I don't know your purpose here but obviously it isn't quitting. I believe this is pure bullshit and ask the administrators to ban you because I don't believe you are quit, you aren't posting roll and you are plainly a troll! 'Finger'
Bumping this.
Ok Einstein, if you don't like it, get the fuck out.
This is your only warning.
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As long as you are quit, you are always welcome.
However, to play on our equipment, you do have to post roll. We've been lenient tonight as you are still acclimating yourself, but please feel free to join us.
I look forward to our talks man!
Thanks so much and I will post roll but am not used to this older format of forum. Do you have a link for where I post roll? I do not care which one I post in, the numbers do not really matter to me: right now, I know that Friday will be 4 weeks but that's about it.
And I also formulated what I think is a better explanation of what I am trying to say and posted it in this article but I would like to include it here, in case folks don't want to link to it, if it is alright with the mods here. If not, feel free to edit the post as you see fit.
I'm not saying you guys are wrong or trying to start a problem, I am legitemately trying to help. I think this is a really crucial issue in our world today and something we have all been decieved on. I am right now entertaining the idea of doing some research and writing a definitive article of my inital hypothesis, which I will post to my blog. If/when I do, I will let your this community know. I am totally open to the fact that I may be wrong but this hypothesis of mine has been being formed over the past 15 years and after watching a lot of folks I know die from substance abuse. And I'm sorry, but this model that we have now (and they are all very similar, 1,2,3, repeat) they simply do not work. And I think instead of blindly defending that to the death because we don't know what else may be out there, I think we should at least take a moment to see if neural pathways are actually permement (they're not, but, alas, I do not have alink for that article at the moment.) But I will try and organize that article and it will include that article in the footnotes.
Either way, it adds to my fantastical list of things to get done. LOL
So, Wastepanel responded to a post I made on that other Hoffman article and you can read his response there (I won't explain his response here):
http://www.quit4today.com/blog/2014/02/ ... omment-356 (http://www.quit4today.com/blog/2014/02/philip-seymour-hoffman-he-chose-to-use/comment-page-1/#comment-356)
And this was my response for those who do not wish to go to that article:
The very fact that you state you 'thought you were cured' is what my theory is about. You were still addicted to tobacco. It's not what we consciously think but what our SUBCONCSIOUS thinks. You relapsed, why? U said it had been 3 years. So my point is supported: time, at least as we physicially measure it, does not apply.
U say it did not take long and you were back to using worse in 4 months. My theory says that in those 4 months, you were still aware that you were now using tobacco more frequently than you had in the past 3 years. If you still felt cured and that it was fine to use, then you were lying to yourself and that led to your using again.
For me, 2011 marked when you realized what addiction's reach could do, when given control. It does not mean that control was always there. It was gone for 3 years. Perhaps the temptation existed and that may be indicative of the level of 'quit' you were at (you were not at that time fully free from a tobacco addiction though it seemed you were.) But the addiction had no control at that time. It was in the shadows.
What I am talking about is ousting it from the shadows forever. As long as we believe that is impossible, it is. If we believe that it is possible, than it is possible. Does not mean that any specific amount of time could achieve that: could take 6 weeks, 6 years or never happen.
What I am saying is that I believe it is possible and should be what we are working towards, not simply the stage where we're keeping the addiction in the shadows because we watch really closely and vigilantly every day. I'm saying the victory is when the addiction has been slain because all the shadows he had to hide in have been removed. In my hypothesis, these 'shadows' are deeper problems and issues we have to deal with that modern psychology and treatment simply fails to address, whether it be purposefully or negligently.
In my theory, the 'quit' which killthecan.org is where the addiction is in the shadows (the quit, the remission) and this is good. Now we learn how to live without the crutch of our using. But the 'quit' is no type of victory and offers no such victory: the 'quit' is the post, the watch, the training, the rehab, the transition. The 'cure' is the goal. And it is possible. It is not something you consciously recognize, which is what you mistook my theory for. If you consciously feel 'cured', that is the addiction telling a lie from the shadows so that you might release him from the shadows because you are fooled that he is left. His second lie to you is that you can never get rid of him, that he will always be there.
And that is where my theory comes in: that that is a simple lie: remove his shadows and he will no longer be there. And he can be ousted forever. And you can let down your vigil because there will no longer be a prisoner to keep watch over. Then, you can live your life free from the use of tobacco and the horrible addiction that goes along with it.
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I re read that and wanted to add a point for clarity:
what I am trying to say is that 'feeling' cured or 'i got this' is NOT the same as actually 'being' cured. The old way of thinking purports that the latter is simply not possible and does not exist. My theory challenges this idea in that I believe the latter is possible, attainable and should be the victory fought for.
I do not believe that there is a specific time frame for being fully cured. I believe it is more about personal growth and maturity. And I also do not think we will be conscious of it. I think it is more of a natural thing. Sort of like true love. It can never be forced. A quit can be forced. A cure cannot.Hoffman Article (http://www.quit4today.com/blog/2014/02/philip-seymour-hoffman-he-chose-to-use/comment-page-1/#comment-356)
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As long as you are quit, you are always welcome.
However, to play on our equipment, you do have to post roll. We've been lenient tonight as you are still acclimating yourself, but please feel free to join us.
I look forward to our talks man!
Thanks so much and I will post roll but am not used to this older format of forum. Do you have a link for where I post roll? I do not care which one I post in, the numbers do not really matter to me: right now, I know that Friday will be 4 weeks but that's about it.
And I also formulated what I think is a better explanation of what I am trying to say and posted it in this article but I would like to include it here, in case folks don't want to link to it, if it is alright with the mods here. If not, feel free to edit the post as you see fit.
I'm not saying you guys are wrong or trying to start a problem, I am legitemately trying to help. I think this is a really crucial issue in our world today and something we have all been decieved on. I am right now entertaining the idea of doing some research and writing a definitive article of my inital hypothesis, which I will post to my blog. If/when I do, I will let your this community know. I am totally open to the fact that I may be wrong but this hypothesis of mine has been being formed over the past 15 years and after watching a lot of folks I know die from substance abuse. And I'm sorry, but this model that we have now (and they are all very similar, 1,2,3, repeat) they simply do not work. And I think instead of blindly defending that to the death because we don't know what else may be out there, I think we should at least take a moment to see if neural pathways are actually permement (they're not, but, alas, I do not have alink for that article at the moment.) But I will try and organize that article and it will include that article in the footnotes.
Either way, it adds to my fantastical list of things to get done. LOL
So, Wastepanel responded to a post I made on that other Hoffman article and you can read his response there (I won't explain his response here):
http://www.quit4today.com/blog/2014/02/ ... omment-356 (http://www.quit4today.com/blog/2014/02/philip-seymour-hoffman-he-chose-to-use/comment-page-1/#comment-356)
And this was my response for those who do not wish to go to that article:
The very fact that you state you 'thought you were cured' is what my theory is about. You were still addicted to tobacco. It's not what we consciously think but what our SUBCONCSIOUS thinks. You relapsed, why? U said it had been 3 years. So my point is supported: time, at least as we physicially measure it, does not apply.
U say it did not take long and you were back to using worse in 4 months. My theory says that in those 4 months, you were still aware that you were now using tobacco more frequently than you had in the past 3 years. If you still felt cured and that it was fine to use, then you were lying to yourself and that led to your using again.
For me, 2011 marked when you realized what addiction's reach could do, when given control. It does not mean that control was always there. It was gone for 3 years. Perhaps the temptation existed and that may be indicative of the level of 'quit' you were at (you were not at that time fully free from a tobacco addiction though it seemed you were.) But the addiction had no control at that time. It was in the shadows.
What I am talking about is ousting it from the shadows forever. As long as we believe that is impossible, it is. If we believe that it is possible, than it is possible. Does not mean that any specific amount of time could achieve that: could take 6 weeks, 6 years or never happen.
What I am saying is that I believe it is possible and should be what we are working towards, not simply the stage where we're keeping the addiction in the shadows because we watch really closely and vigilantly every day. I'm saying the victory is when the addiction has been slain because all the shadows he had to hide in have been removed. In my hypothesis, these 'shadows' are deeper problems and issues we have to deal with that modern psychology and treatment simply fails to address, whether it be purposefully or negligently.
In my theory, the 'quit' which killthecan.org is where the addiction is in the shadows (the quit, the remission) and this is good. Now we learn how to live without the crutch of our using. But the 'quit' is no type of victory and offers no such victory: the 'quit' is the post, the watch, the training, the rehab, the transition. The 'cure' is the goal. And it is possible. It is not something you consciously recognize, which is what you mistook my theory for. If you consciously feel 'cured', that is the addiction telling a lie from the shadows so that you might release him from the shadows because you are fooled that he is left. His second lie to you is that you can never get rid of him, that he will always be there.
And that is where my theory comes in: that that is a simple lie: remove his shadows and he will no longer be there. And he can be ousted forever. And you can let down your vigil because there will no longer be a prisoner to keep watch over. Then, you can live your life free from the use of tobacco and the horrible addiction that goes along with it.
--end post---
I re read that and wanted to add a point for clarity:
what I am trying to say is that 'feeling' cured or 'i got this' is NOT the same as actually 'being' cured. The old way of thinking purports that the latter is simply not possible and does not exist. My theory challenges this idea in that I believe the latter is possible, attainable and should be the victory fought for.
I do not believe that there is a specific time frame for being fully cured. I believe it is more about personal growth and maturity. And I also do not think we will be conscious of it. I think it is more of a natural thing. Sort of like true love. It can never be forced. A quit can be forced. A cure cannot.Hoffman Article (http://www.quit4today.com/blog/2014/02/philip-seymour-hoffman-he-chose-to-use/comment-page-1/#comment-356)
I'm not saying you guys are wrong or trying to start a problem, I am legitemately trying to help. I think this is a really crucial issue in our world today and something we have all been decieved on. I am right now entertaining the idea of doing some research and writing a definitive article of my inital hypothesis, which I will post to my blog. If/when I do, I will let your this community know. I am totally open to the fact that I may be wrong but this hypothesis of mine has been being formed over the past 15 years and after watching a lot of folks I know die from substance abuse. And I'm sorry, but this model that we have now (and they are all very similar, 1,2,3, repeat) they simply do not work. And I think instead of blindly defending that to the death because we don't know what else may be out there, I think we should at least take a moment to see if neural pathways are actually permement (they're not, but, alas, I do not have alink for that article at the moment.) But I will try and organize that article and it will include that article in the footnotes.
Well, it has been working for me for 22 years.
I don't care what your theories are.
You are a troll.
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Well, it has been working for me for 22 years.
I don't care what your theories are.
You are a troll.
And may the Lord bless you, too, sir.
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Well, it has been working for me for 22 years.Â
I don't care what your theories are.
You are a troll.
And may the Lord bless you, too, sir.
I seriously doubt that.
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I seriously doubt that.
??? You doubt He will bless you?
Friendly site you have here.
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I seriously doubt that.
??? You doubt He will bless you?
Friendly site you have here.
You come in here advocating the thought that someday we can all use nicotine again and expect a warm welcome?
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You come in here advocating the thought that someday we can all use nicotine again and expect a warm welcome?
If that is what you got from reading my posts, please, start at the beginning ad reread.
In the meantime, here is part of what I was talking about. This article states addiction can be outgrown, about three scrolls down the page:
Edited by MJ
I will have to do some more research and try and find that published medical article I am thinking of but some of these are decent sources or at least decently cited.
Not saying what has kept you from dipping for 22 years is bad. Or that there is anything wrong with it. Just saying the more ya know, the more you grow. :)
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You come in here advocating the thought that someday we can all use nicotine again and expect a warm welcome?
If that is what you got from reading my posts, please, start at the beginning ad reread.
In the meantime, here is part of what I was talking about. This article states addiction can be outgrown, about three scrolls down the page:
Edited by MJ
I will have to do some more research and try and find that published medical article I am thinking of but some of these are decent sources or at least decently cited.
Not saying what has kept you from dipping for 22 years is bad. Or that there is anything wrong with it. Just saying the more ya know, the more you grow. :)
That is 22 years of sobriety.
You are playing with a dangerous toy. This is not about a mental game, it is a physical thing and I have a great deal of personal experience with it.
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That is 22 years of sobriety.
You are playing with a dangerous toy. This is not about a mental game, it is a physical thing and I have a great deal of personal experience with it.
Well 22 years of sobriety has not done much for your ethics. For anyone wondering, mj just deleted 3 posts to 3 articles I cited explaining what it is I am talking about.
Now, sir, please kindly go ahead and delete my account as I am no longer interested in taking part in a community that is all for censoring information that may help people recover from addictions they wish to be free from.
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That is 22 years of sobriety.
You are playing with a dangerous toy. This is not about a mental game, it is a physical thing and I have a great deal of personal experience with it.
Well 22 years of sobriety has not done much for your ethics. For anyone wondering, mj just deleted 3 posts to 3 articles I cited explaining what it is I am talking about.
Now, sir, please kindly go ahead and delete my account as I am no longer interested in taking part in a community that is all for censoring information that may help people recover from addictions they wish to be free from.
My conscious is clear.
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That is 22 years of sobriety.
You are playing with a dangerous toy. This is not about a mental game, it is a physical thing and I have a great deal of personal experience with it.
Well 22 years of sobriety has not done much for your ethics. For anyone wondering, mj just deleted 3 posts to 3 articles I cited explaining what it is I am talking about.
Now, sir, please kindly go ahead and delete my account as I am no longer interested in taking part in a community that is all for censoring information that may help people recover from addictions they wish to be free from.
My conscious is clear.
Ban that mofo for being a fraud. I've been reading via cell phone and about to jump out of my skin to tear into this fraud. Blatant contradiction after another. Since I am on my cell phone, I will sum up what is obvious.
For one, if you could get past your egocentric and narscisstic ramblings, conclusory statments, circular reasoning, assumptions, biases, and appeals to your own personal beliefs about reality as authority (self authenticate any?), then you would not be on a quit smokeless extreme site.
You sound more like a mentally ill person rambling on about junk psychology. I agree you need a doctor. You need more help than we can provide you here.
Btw, since your hypethis (but you also called it a theory) is infallible, why did you not just go visit your neighbors and enlighten them that their reality is what their subconscious truly believes--like healed from tobacco-induced cancer? Because, your hypothesis/theory is as much of a fraud as you are.
You sir are petaling junk-psychology. It would take a true narcissist to try and pass that off as an original thought. Btw, the "habit theory" and outgrowing took off in the 1970's. Now, if my math is correct, that puts your fraudlent hypothesis/theory prior to our 'antiquated' 1980's model.
Go pound sand, bitch.
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Hi, I'm new to this site and I'm not sure where to post stuff. But I wanted to ask a few things.
First off, I'm not the one who chewed...it's my fiance. He's almost 22 and had chew for 3 years before deciding to quit about a year ago. He quit when we first started going out because he knew he could be better. I didn't know he chewed until we had been going out for about 6 monthes, and even then, I didn't know he was still struggling with it. I've just recently learned that it's still a very hard struggle that he deals with almost on a daily basis. Things will get stressful, and he will stumble. Afterwards he always feels horrible, and then has several days of withdrawl that are miserable for him. He's just getting to the point where he can talk to me about it, he'll tell me if he's having a hard day with it, or if he's struggling. And I do my best to be supportive. I know there's no way I can really understand what he's going through, but I want to know if there's anything I can do or say that would help him? I want him to know I'm on his side, but don't know how to encourage him without sounding critical or judgemental.
Please....any words from those experienced in the matter would greatly be appreciated. Thank you!
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Hi, I'm new to this site and I'm not sure where to post stuff. But I wanted to ask a few things.
First off, I'm not the one who chewed...it's my fiance. He's almost 22 and had chew for 3 years before deciding to quit about a year ago. He quit when we first started going out because he knew he could be better. I didn't know he chewed until we had been going out for about 6 monthes, and even then, I didn't know he was still struggling with it. I've just recently learned that it's still a very hard struggle that he deals with almost on a daily basis. Things will get stressful, and he will stumble. Afterwards he always feels horrible, and then has several days of withdrawl that are miserable for him. He's just getting to the point where he can talk to me about it, he'll tell me if he's having a hard day with it, or if he's struggling. And I do my best to be supportive. I know there's no way I can really understand what he's going through, but I want to know if there's anything I can do or say that would help him? I want him to know I'm on his side, but don't know how to encourage him without sounding critical or judgemental.
Please....any words from those experienced in the matter would greatly be appreciated. Thank you!
I have spent the last 3 years going through quitting, relapsing, withdrawals, etc. For me, the worst of it all was psychological because, deep down, it was knowing that I lacked self control and, for a man, or at least for me, that sucked.
I do not know your guy and it depends on the individual. Perhaps you can post more about what he is like? Depending on what type of relationship you have will determine what action you two can take.
First, you should really have him figure out if he wants to quit. If you're giving him ultimatums, that can increase pressure. My wife has asked me to quit since we met. It's just now transpiring. But she hasn't left me, in fact, she married me. God bless her. But it really comes down to a support system. That's why these folks are here on this site... a support system.
Now, would your guy be interested in talking to guys going through the same thing? That works for some folks and others not. It depends on him as a person.
For me, herbal chew (no tobacco, no nicotine) has done the trick. But it is still icky. But at least it can help him quit.
For me, the final turning point was after a week. I had never gone that long without using nicotine before. I was miserable and slept a lot and almost cried a lot. But, after 7 days, it was like, well, it's been a week without a dip, what's the point of buying anymore dip?
I think first you should ask him to have a serious talk with you. Don't force him to make a bunch of eye contact with you if he's not comfortable with that. If he is, then that's fine. Make it about him. Try to relax him. Try to simplify the situation. Try to make it positive. If you can make this a positive experience for him, you should be able to win a lot of points.
Present it to him like, hey, what an amazing challenge: to kick a tobacco addiction. That makes you all the more manly to me! Play to his ego, if you can or if it is not cheesy. Most importantly: first, speak with him casually to figure out what different options he has and all the ways and things that are at his disposal to help him quit for good. This should be something to help build his confidence in himself, to be able to take control of his actions, which is a good feeling at that young of an age. Be his friend, most of all. Just be real cool with it and don't give a lot of pressure during your initial talk. Use the pressure down the road in helping him to stick with what decisions he makes.
Nobody ever thought I would actually quit and I did. My parents were shocked. I chewed for 15 years. I do not have a lot of experience in quitting: it's only been 4 weeks. But I have spent years trying to quit and backsliding. It really came down to wanting to do it and being sick of the sores in my mouth. He can avoid all that.
And there are a lot of other people on the internet that are going through the exact same thing as him if he were to choose to reach out to them.
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Hi, I'm new to this site and I'm not sure where to post stuff. But I wanted to ask a few things.
First off, I'm not the one who chewed...it's my fiance. He's almost 22 and had chew for 3 years before deciding to quit about a year ago. He quit when we first started going out because he knew he could be better. I didn't know he chewed until we had been going out for about 6 monthes, and even then, I didn't know he was still struggling with it. I've just recently learned that it's still a very hard struggle that he deals with almost on a daily basis. Things will get stressful, and he will stumble. Afterwards he always feels horrible, and then has several days of withdrawl that are miserable for him. He's just getting to the point where he can talk to me about it, he'll tell me if he's having a hard day with it, or if he's struggling. And I do my best to be supportive. I know there's no way I can really understand what he's going through, but I want to know if there's anything I can do or say that would help him? I want him to know I'm on his side, but don't know how to encourage him without sounding critical or judgemental.
Please....any words from those experienced in the matter would greatly be appreciated. Thank you!
I have spent the last 3 years going through quitting, relapsing, withdrawals, etc. For me, the worst of it all was psychological because, deep down, it was knowing that I lacked self control and, for a man, or at least for me, that sucked.
I do not know your guy and it depends on the individual. Perhaps you can post more about what he is like? Depending on what type of relationship you have will determine what action you two can take.
First, you should really have him figure out if he wants to quit. If you're giving him ultimatums, that can increase pressure. My wife has asked me to quit since we met. It's just now transpiring. But she hasn't left me, in fact, she married me. God bless her. But it really comes down to a support system. That's why these folks are here on this site... a support system.
Now, would your guy be interested in talking to guys going through the same thing? That works for some folks and others not. It depends on him as a person.
For me, herbal chew (no tobacco, no nicotine) has done the trick. But it is still icky. But at least it can help him quit.
For me, the final turning point was after a week. I had never gone that long without using nicotine before. I was miserable and slept a lot and almost cried a lot. But, after 7 days, it was like, well, it's been a week without a dip, what's the point of buying anymore dip?
I think first you should ask him to have a serious talk with you. Don't force him to make a bunch of eye contact with you if he's not comfortable with that. If he is, then that's fine. Make it about him. Try to relax him. Try to simplify the situation. Try to make it positive. If you can make this a positive experience for him, you should be able to win a lot of points.
Present it to him like, hey, what an amazing challenge: to kick a tobacco addiction. That makes you all the more manly to me! Play to his ego, if you can or if it is not cheesy. Most importantly: first, speak with him casually to figure out what different options he has and all the ways and things that are at his disposal to help him quit for good. This should be something to help build his confidence in himself, to be able to take control of his actions, which is a good feeling at that young of an age. Be his friend, most of all. Just be real cool with it and don't give a lot of pressure during your initial talk. Use the pressure down the road in helping him to stick with what decisions he makes.
Nobody ever thought I would actually quit and I did. My parents were shocked. I chewed for 15 years. I do not have a lot of experience in quitting: it's only been 4 weeks. But I have spent years trying to quit and backsliding. It really came down to wanting to do it and being sick of the sores in my mouth. He can avoid all that.
And there are a lot of other people on the internet that are going through the exact same thing as him if he were to choose to reach out to them.
I just realized that he is a member of this site too. I knew he had looked into some support groups, and I guess we found the same one.
He already wants it out of his life, and I know it's his decision and only he can keep himself from doing it. I would never dream of giving him an ultimatum. But I want to know if there's a way that I can somehow make it a little less mierable for him? I have asked him this, and he says to just keep loving him as usual. I know there's a battle raging inside of him, and I feel like there's something I should be doing.
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I just realized that he is a member of this site too. I knew he had looked into some support groups, and I guess we found the same one.
He already wants it out of his life, and I know it's his decision and only he can keep himself from doing it. I would never dream of giving him an ultimatum. But I want to know if there's a way that I can somehow make it a little less mierable for him? I have asked him this, and he says to just keep loving him as usual. I know there's a battle raging inside of him, and I feel like there's something I should be doing.
Has he already quit?
Or are you saying he quits and then backslides?
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I just realized that he is a member of this site too. I knew he had looked into some support groups, and I guess we found the same one.
He already wants it out of his life, and I know it's his decision and only he can keep himself from doing it. I would never dream of giving him an ultimatum. But I want to know if there's a way that I can somehow make it a little less mierable for him? I have asked him this, and he says to just keep loving him as usual. I know there's a battle raging inside of him, and I feel like there's something I should be doing.
Has he already quit?
Or are you saying he quits and then backslides?
I'm not sure what you mean by that?
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Has he already quit?
Or are you saying he quits and then backslides?
I'm not sure what you mean by that? [/QUOTE]
I mean how long has it been since the last time he had a dip of chewing tobacco?
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Has he already quit?
Or are you saying he quits and then backslides?
I'm not sure what you mean by that?
I mean how long has it been since the last time he had a dip of chewing tobacco? [/QUOTE]
It's been a few weeks, but he's been trying to quit for almost a year. What does that have to do with what I was asking?
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It's been a few weeks, but he's been trying to quit for almost a year. What does that have to do with what I was asking?
If your original question is what you can do to help him (you said you feel like you should be doing something) then it is helpful to know where he is in his current 'quit', meaning, how long it has been since he put down tobacco.
The nicotine has left his system. So he is nicotine free if it has truly been 2 weeks. He will still feel bad (I did at that time) but physically, he is okay.
Does he have some herbal chew? If not, he should try that. All you can do is just be supportive. Be attentive to him. This is the most difficult thing he may ever face. Let him know you're proud of him and encourage him to stick with it.
If he's already a member of this site then he already knows about the community that is here if he chooses to engage them.
If he continuously backslides, I say he needs to reassess his game plan and figure out if he can pinpoint where things go wrong when he tries to quit.
Personally, I tried to quit for about the past year. This time I've just decided I'm really done chewing tobacco and that's it. I have reasons why and I agree with them and that is it. This is the longest I have gone without tobacco. Before that, the longest was 2 days. It has now been 4 weeks.
What changed for me was that enough was enough and I just simply decided to ride it out. That meant getting past 7 days for me. After 7 days, I was able to function again and continue using herbal chew for the time being.
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It's been a few weeks, but he's been trying to quit for almost a year. What does that have to do with what I was asking?
If your original question is what you can do to help him (you said you feel like you should be doing something) then it is helpful to know where he is in his current 'quit', meaning, how long it has been since he put down tobacco.
The nicotine has left his system. So he is nicotine free if it has truly been 2 weeks. He will still feel bad (I did at that time) but physically, he is okay.
Does he have some herbal chew? If not, he should try that. All you can do is just be supportive. Be attentive to him. This is the most difficult thing he may ever face. Let him know you're proud of him and encourage him to stick with it.
If he's already a member of this site then he already knows about the community that is here if he chooses to engage them.
If he continuously backslides, I say he needs to reassess his game plan and figure out if he can pinpoint where things go wrong when he tries to quit.
Personally, I tried to quit for about the past year. This time I've just decided I'm really done chewing tobacco and that's it. I have reasons why and I agree with them and that is it. This is the longest I have gone without tobacco. Before that, the longest was 2 days. It has now been 4 weeks.
What changed for me was that enough was enough and I just simply decided to ride it out. That meant getting past 7 days for me. After 7 days, I was able to function again and continue using herbal chew for the time being.
That still doesn't help me at all....Does anyone else have something to contribute? I would love to have more insights. I really appreciate it, thank you.
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It's been a few weeks, but he's been trying to quit for almost a year. What does that have to do with what I was asking?
If your original question is what you can do to help him (you said you feel like you should be doing something) then it is helpful to know where he is in his current 'quit', meaning, how long it has been since he put down tobacco.
The nicotine has left his system. So he is nicotine free if it has truly been 2 weeks. He will still feel bad (I did at that time) but physically, he is okay.
Does he have some herbal chew? If not, he should try that. All you can do is just be supportive. Be attentive to him. This is the most difficult thing he may ever face. Let him know you're proud of him and encourage him to stick with it.
If he's already a member of this site then he already knows about the community that is here if he chooses to engage them.
If he continuously backslides, I say he needs to reassess his game plan and figure out if he can pinpoint where things go wrong when he tries to quit.
Personally, I tried to quit for about the past year. This time I've just decided I'm really done chewing tobacco and that's it. I have reasons why and I agree with them and that is it. This is the longest I have gone without tobacco. Before that, the longest was 2 days. It has now been 4 weeks.
What changed for me was that enough was enough and I just simply decided to ride it out. That meant getting past 7 days for me. After 7 days, I was able to function again and continue using herbal chew for the time being.
That still doesn't help me at all....Does anyone else have something to contribute? I would love to have more insights. I really appreciate it, thank you.
BlueRose, here's a link to the spousal support page...
Spousal Support (http://www.killthecan.org/community/spousal-support/)
Hope it helps.
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BlueRose, here's a link to the spousal support page...
Spousal Support (http://www.killthecan.org/community/spousal-support/)
Hope it helps.
Thank you!! :)
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That is 22 years of sobriety.
You are playing with a dangerous toy. This is not about a mental game, it is a physical thing and I have a great deal of personal experience with it.
Well 22 years of sobriety has not done much for your ethics. For anyone wondering, mj just deleted 3 posts to 3 articles I cited explaining what it is I am talking about.
Now, sir, please kindly go ahead and delete my account as I am no longer interested in taking part in a community that is all for censoring information that may help people recover from addictions they wish to be free from.
My conscious is clear.
Ban that mofo for being a fraud. I've been reading via cell phone and about to jump out of my skin to tear into this fraud. Blatant contradiction after another. Since I am on my cell phone, I will sum up what is obvious.
For one, if you could get past your egocentric and narscisstic ramblings, conclusory statments, circular reasoning, assumptions, biases, and appeals to your own personal beliefs about reality as authority (self authenticate any?), then you would not be on a quit smokeless extreme site.
You sound more like a mentally ill person rambling on about junk psychology. I agree you need a doctor. You need more help than we can provide you here.
Btw, since your hypethis (but you also called it a theory) is infallible, why did you not just go visit your neighbors and enlighten them that their reality is what their subconscious truly believes--like healed from tobacco-induced cancer? Because, your hypothesis/theory is as much of a fraud as you are.
You sir are petaling junk-psychology. It would take a true narcissist to try and pass that off as an original thought. Btw, the "habit theory" and outgrowing took off in the 1970's. Now, if my math is correct, that puts your fraudlent hypothesis/theory prior to our 'antiquated' 1980's model.
Go pound sand, bitch.
If this guy isn't gonna post roll and continues to feed big tobacco propaganda it's time for him to go!
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Alright all. I'm gonna have to have a judges ruling on this.... T R O L L ! ! ! !
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Alright all. I'm gonna have to have a judges ruling on this.... T R O L L ! ! ! !
Done
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I just officially joined KTC today and I'm officially quitting today.
I know it says day 1-3 are the hardest
are there any types for coping with the first three days?
I recently ordered the herbal pouches to help me quit. I'm actually excited to begin quitting because I think I really have noticed a significant change in my behavior/personal since I started. I just feel like a different person and I don't know if thats out of the ordinary or if thats a normal feeling. I was never a smoker or anything before about a year ago. I didnt really even do much with alcohol before i turned 21. For some reason i just decided last august that i wanted to try smokeless tobacco.
I'm a marine engineering major finishing my bachelor of engineering degree this May. In Spring of 2013, I realized I was slightly behind being on track to graduate in May 2014, not because I'm a slacker or because I failed classes, but because I switched majors a couple times and it screwed up some of my course loads. Anyways I knew to stay on track I had to really load up on credits. I took 21 credits in Spring 2013 and it was a very difficult semester. Then I went on my 90 day summer sea term, which is part of what maritime colleges is do and the 90 day summer sea term is one of the biggest milestones to complete at the school. I went 7 for 7 on my license seminar exams and couldnt have been more proud. When it was over and the ship returned to New York in August, I got to go home for the first time since christmas. Sadly, I was only able to be home for 5 days until I had to go back to school for RA training and the beginning of my Fall semester, which is when i decided to try the smokeless tobacco. I had heard it helps with focus and I had an 8 hr drive to NYC ahead of me. I figured what the hell ill try it. I ended up liking it and never even got sick from it. Then the reality hit me that I have another 14 weeks of 21 credits. It was a brutal experience and i dipped hard for every single day of those 14 weeks and ended up with a 3.70 GPA for the semester. However, it was not over for me yet because is till had to sit for my USCG third assistant engineer license exams in January. I spent all three weeks of christmas break studying my ass off 8 hrs a day. And yeah you can guess what i did every single day.....yup dipped hard the entire month. License is one of the most difficult experiences to go through at my college because its like the BAR exam for engineers and i cant graduate unless i pass it. It consisted of 7 different 3 hr exams in a four day period. By far my proudest achievement I went 7 for 7 on those exams. Now that puts me in the last semester of my senior year and ive been telling myself constantly I'm only dipping to get me through the semester.... to get me through license.... to relax and enjoy myself.
Enough is ENOUGH and i need to quit
this is my story and why I am quitting. I am quitting for myself because I do not need tobacco to continue on in life
this is my story hope it is appropriate for this forum and not too lengthy
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That is 22 years of sobriety.
You are playing with a dangerous toy. This is not about a mental game, it is a physical thing and I have a great deal of personal experience with it.
Well 22 years of sobriety has not done much for your ethics. For anyone wondering, mj just deleted 3 posts to 3 articles I cited explaining what it is I am talking about.
Now, sir, please kindly go ahead and delete my account as I am no longer interested in taking part in a community that is all for censoring information that may help people recover from addictions they wish to be free from.
My conscious is clear.
Ban that mofo for being a fraud. I've been reading via cell phone and about to jump out of my skin to tear into this fraud. Blatant contradiction after another. Since I am on my cell phone, I will sum up what is obvious.
For one, if you could get past your egocentric and narscisstic ramblings, conclusory statments, circular reasoning, assumptions, biases, and appeals to your own personal beliefs about reality as authority (self authenticate any?), then you would not be on a quit smokeless extreme site.
You sound more like a mentally ill person rambling on about junk psychology. I agree you need a doctor. You need more help than we can provide you here.
Btw, since your hypethis (but you also called it a theory) is infallible, why did you not just go visit your neighbors and enlighten them that their reality is what their subconscious truly believes--like healed from tobacco-induced cancer? Because, your hypothesis/theory is as much of a fraud as you are.
You sir are petaling junk-psychology. It would take a true narcissist to try and pass that off as an original thought. Btw, the "habit theory" and outgrowing took off in the 1970's. Now, if my math is correct, that puts your fraudlent hypothesis/theory prior to our 'antiquated' 1980's model.
Go pound sand, bitch.
If this guy isn't gonna post roll and continues to feed big tobacco propaganda it's time for him to go!
I rarely argue for banishment .... But in this case I do
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Hey there. Are you here as a guest? Are checking out the site and thinking about quitting the dip? Are you wondering if you can actually do it for real this time?
YOU CAN! You are not here by accident. You have come to the right place. Dump your stash and start RIGHT NOW. Post on here if you need any help finding your way around the site.
Bump.
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That is 22 years of sobriety.
You are playing with a dangerous toy. This is not about a mental game, it is a physical thing and I have a great deal of personal experience with it.
Well 22 years of sobriety has not done much for your ethics. For anyone wondering, mj just deleted 3 posts to 3 articles I cited explaining what it is I am talking about.
Now, sir, please kindly go ahead and delete my account as I am no longer interested in taking part in a community that is all for censoring information that may help people recover from addictions they wish to be free from.
My conscious is clear.
Ban that mofo for being a fraud. I've been reading via cell phone and about to jump out of my skin to tear into this fraud. Blatant contradiction after another. Since I am on my cell phone, I will sum up what is obvious.
For one, if you could get past your egocentric and narscisstic ramblings, conclusory statments, circular reasoning, assumptions, biases, and appeals to your own personal beliefs about reality as authority (self authenticate any?), then you would not be on a quit smokeless extreme site.
You sound more like a mentally ill person rambling on about junk psychology. I agree you need a doctor. You need more help than we can provide you here.
Btw, since your hypethis (but you also called it a theory) is infallible, why did you not just go visit your neighbors and enlighten them that their reality is what their subconscious truly believes--like healed from tobacco-induced cancer? Because, your hypothesis/theory is as much of a fraud as you are.
You sir are petaling junk-psychology. It would take a true narcissist to try and pass that off as an original thought. Btw, the "habit theory" and outgrowing took off in the 1970's. Now, if my math is correct, that puts your fraudlent hypothesis/theory prior to our 'antiquated' 1980's model.
Go pound sand, bitch.
If this guy isn't gonna post roll and continues to feed big tobacco propaganda it's time for him to go!
I rarely argue for banishment .... But in this case I do
I agree with all here.. I have almost 13 years of continuous sobriety from King Alcohol and there is a saying in the 12 step groups and it goes like this.. "once a cucumber becomes a pickle, it can never become a cucumber again.". I hit my bottom with alcohol and now with tobacco.. I knew 12 13 years ago I couldnt just have one dip but the consequences were not in my face like alcohol was.. Dip is a slow burn, a slow killer.. delayed consequences that take time for a lot of folks.. I made a decision last monday to get help for my tobacco because like alcohol I couldnt do it by myself... I urge you to be careful what u tell folks... Ive seen folks go out for one drink after 30 years of sobriety and die within one week of picking back up...
As for me, and only speaking for me. I absolutely cannot have just one dip.. I tried that 7 years ago after 4 years of no dip and it took me this long to quit again..
Please go and google the "phenomenon of craving" before u tell another person they can one dip and put it down..
My Rant is over
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Please go and google the "phenomenon of craving" before u tell another person they can one dip and put it down..
My Rant is over
Again, you need to reread the posts if that is what you got out of them as that is the exact opposite of what the content of my posts were about.
I have not used any technical jargon or fancy paraphrasing, I have stated in pretty plain english what it is I am on about. Not sure if folks aren't reading the posts or simply aren't comprehending what it is they are reading.
For the record, none of these allegations are true: I have not advocated for anyone to start chewing again or to have "just" one. If you don't believe me, reread my posts is all I can really say, the point is somewhat moot at this stage.
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That is 22 years of sobriety.
You are playing with a dangerous toy. This is not about a mental game, it is a physical thing and I have a great deal of personal experience with it.
Well 22 years of sobriety has not done much for your ethics. For anyone wondering, mj just deleted 3 posts to 3 articles I cited explaining what it is I am talking about.
Now, sir, please kindly go ahead and delete my account as I am no longer interested in taking part in a community that is all for censoring information that may help people recover from addictions they wish to be free from.
My conscious is clear.
Ban that mofo for being a fraud. I've been reading via cell phone and about to jump out of my skin to tear into this fraud. Blatant contradiction after another. Since I am on my cell phone, I will sum up what is obvious.
For one, if you could get past your egocentric and narscisstic ramblings, conclusory statments, circular reasoning, assumptions, biases, and appeals to your own personal beliefs about reality as authority (self authenticate any?), then you would not be on a quit smokeless extreme site.
You sound more like a mentally ill person rambling on about junk psychology. I agree you need a doctor. You need more help than we can provide you here.
Btw, since your hypethis (but you also called it a theory) is infallible, why did you not just go visit your neighbors and enlighten them that their reality is what their subconscious truly believes--like healed from tobacco-induced cancer? Because, your hypothesis/theory is as much of a fraud as you are.
You sir are petaling junk-psychology. It would take a true narcissist to try and pass that off as an original thought. Btw, the "habit theory" and outgrowing took off in the 1970's. Now, if my math is correct, that puts your fraudlent hypothesis/theory prior to our 'antiquated' 1980's model.
Go pound sand, bitch.
If this guy isn't gonna post roll and continues to feed big tobacco propaganda it's time for him to go!
I rarely argue for banishment .... But in this case I do
I agree with all here.. I have almost 13 years of continuous sobriety from King Alcohol and there is a saying in the 12 step groups and it goes like this.. "once a cucumber becomes a pickle, it can never become a cucumber again.". I hit my bottom with alcohol and now with tobacco.. I knew 12 13 years ago I couldnt just have one dip but the consequences were not in my face like alcohol was.. Dip is a slow burn, a slow killer.. delayed consequences that take time for a lot of folks.. I made a decision last monday to get help for my tobacco because like alcohol I couldnt do it by myself... I urge you to be careful what u tell folks... Ive seen folks go out for one drink after 30 years of sobriety and die within one week of picking back up...
As for me, and only speaking for me. I absolutely cannot have just one dip.. I tried that 7 years ago after 4 years of no dip and it took me this long to quit again..
Please go and google the "phenomenon of craving" before u tell another person they can one dip and put it down..
My Rant is over
:deadhorse:
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That is 22 years of sobriety.
You are playing with a dangerous toy. This is not about a mental game, it is a physical thing and I have a great deal of personal experience with it.
Well 22 years of sobriety has not done much for your ethics. For anyone wondering, mj just deleted 3 posts to 3 articles I cited explaining what it is I am talking about.
Now, sir, please kindly go ahead and delete my account as I am no longer interested in taking part in a community that is all for censoring information that may help people recover from addictions they wish to be free from.
My conscious is clear.
Ban that mofo for being a fraud. I've been reading via cell phone and about to jump out of my skin to tear into this fraud. Blatant contradiction after another. Since I am on my cell phone, I will sum up what is obvious.
For one, if you could get past your egocentric and narscisstic ramblings, conclusory statments, circular reasoning, assumptions, biases, and appeals to your own personal beliefs about reality as authority (self authenticate any?), then you would not be on a quit smokeless extreme site.
You sound more like a mentally ill person rambling on about junk psychology. I agree you need a doctor. You need more help than we can provide you here.
Btw, since your hypethis (but you also called it a theory) is infallible, why did you not just go visit your neighbors and enlighten them that their reality is what their subconscious truly believes--like healed from tobacco-induced cancer? Because, your hypothesis/theory is as much of a fraud as you are.
You sir are petaling junk-psychology. It would take a true narcissist to try and pass that off as an original thought. Btw, the "habit theory" and outgrowing took off in the 1970's. Now, if my math is correct, that puts your fraudlent hypothesis/theory prior to our 'antiquated' 1980's model.
Go pound sand, bitch.
If this guy isn't gonna post roll and continues to feed big tobacco propaganda it's time for him to go!
I rarely argue for banishment .... But in this case I do
I agree with all here.. I have almost 13 years of continuous sobriety from King Alcohol and there is a saying in the 12 step groups and it goes like this.. "once a cucumber becomes a pickle, it can never become a cucumber again.". I hit my bottom with alcohol and now with tobacco.. I knew 12 13 years ago I couldnt just have one dip but the consequences were not in my face like alcohol was.. Dip is a slow burn, a slow killer.. delayed consequences that take time for a lot of folks.. I made a decision last monday to get help for my tobacco because like alcohol I couldnt do it by myself... I urge you to be careful what u tell folks... Ive seen folks go out for one drink after 30 years of sobriety and die within one week of picking back up...
As for me, and only speaking for me. I absolutely cannot have just one dip.. I tried that 7 years ago after 4 years of no dip and it took me this long to quit again..
Please go and google the "phenomenon of craving" before u tell another person they can one dip and put it down..
My Rant is over
:deadhorse:
OK, sorry I just read all that BS, and first of all Mjollnir is my brother, so look mother fucker fuck off!
You kick this hornet's nest and your ass is gonna get stung.
Sorry to those offended by my rant but I do not tolerate that kind of Bullshit and I sure as hell am not going to watch it happen by some unproven newb.
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I agree with all here.. I have almost 13 years of continuous sobriety from King Alcohol and there is a saying in the 12 step groups and it goes like this.. "once a cucumber becomes a pickle, it can never become a cucumber again.". I hit my bottom with alcohol and now with tobacco.. I knew 12 13 years ago I couldnt just have one dip but the consequences were not in my face like alcohol was.. Dip is a slow burn, a slow killer.. delayed consequences that take time for a lot of folks.. I made a decision last monday to get help for my tobacco because like alcohol I couldnt do it by myself... I urge you to be careful what u tell folks... Ive seen folks go out for one drink after 30 years of sobriety and die within one week of picking back up...
As for me, and only speaking for me. I absolutely cannot have just one dip.. I tried that 7 years ago after 4 years of no dip and it took me this long to quit again..
Please go and google the "phenomenon of craving" before u tell another person they can one dip and put it down..
My Rant is over
Wow. That right there is REAL. Four years quit and one dip...BOOM. There's a guy here who was quit for fifteen years and went back to a can a day addiction feeding after "just one." Thanks for sharing your story.
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Never cured.
http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2013 ... hout-drugs (http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2013/mar/09/russell-brand-life-without-drugs)
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I get a kick out of guts like nsk.
They have it figured out, or so they think. . He talks himself in circles and is full of speculation and one man theories. He has no idea what lies ahead, but many here do.
While this is a unique addiction, the commonalities amongst quitters is astonishing, and they are REAL. They don't come about because you read "what to expect when you quit". There is no osmosis going on here, ktc or no ktc the struggles and feelings one experiences when they quit would be the same. This isn't a cult of made up stories. It's a brotherhood of people trying to help others cope by providing support and sharing real life experiences.
As for his theory that "one day" we will be cured...It doesnt register with me. The only thing I'm focused on is TODAY, because that's all I, and anyone else, can control.
Quit on....
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I get a kick out of guts like nsk.
They have it figured out, or so they think. . He talks himself in circles and is full of speculation and one man theories. He has no idea what lies ahead, but many here do.
While this is a unique addiction, the commonalities amongst quitters is astonishing, and they are REAL. They don't come about because you read "what to expect when you quit". There is no osmosis going on here, ktc or no ktc the struggles and feelings one experiences when they quit would be the same. This isn't a cult of made up stories. It's a brotherhood of people trying to help others cope by providing support and sharing real life experiences.
As for his theory that "one day" we will be cured...It doesnt register with me. The only thing I'm focused on is TODAY, because that's all I, and anyone else, can control.
Quit on....
My feelings exactly, It does not matter how many days out you get .. it will always be one day at a time.. There are many with years behind them that slip up... and they are gone. The strength to the quit is the same as the attack of nicotine ... one day at a time forever.
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This is HUGE !!!
Please shop at CVS and show your support so more businesses will take notice and do the same thing !!!!
http://www.cvs.com/?WT.mc_id=PS_DB_0910 ... d%2Bsearch (http://www.cvs.com/?WT.mc_id=PS_DB_0910201...n=paid%2Bsearch)
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I get a kick out of guts like nsk.
They have it figured out, or so they think. . He talks himself in circles and is full of speculation and one man theories. He has no idea what lies ahead, but many here do.
While this is a unique addiction, the commonalities amongst quitters is astonishing, and they are REAL. They don't come about because you read "what to expect when you quit". There is no osmosis going on here, ktc or no ktc the struggles and feelings one experiences when they quit would be the same. This isn't a cult of made up stories. It's a brotherhood of people trying to help others cope by providing support and sharing real life experiences.
As for his theory that "one day" we will be cured...It doesnt register with me. The only thing I'm focused on is TODAY, because that's all I, and anyone else, can control.Â
Quit on....
My feelings exactly, It does not matter how many days out you get .. it will always be one day at a time.. There are many with years behind them that slip up... and they are gone. The strength to the quit is the same as the attack of nicotine ... one day at a time forever.
Yes, someday we will all be cured of the addiction. It will be the moment we close our eyes for the last time, and enter eternal sleep. Until then, while your machine is still running, keep that shit out of it!
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This is HUGE !!!
Please shop at CVS and show your support so more businesses will take notice and do the same thing !!!!
http://www.cvs.com/?WT.mc_id=PS_DB_0910 ... d%2Bsearch (http://www.cvs.com/?WT.mc_id=PS_DB_0910201...n=paid%2Bsearch)
Excellent!
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New Blog Post: The 2014 Savannah Quit Together - 18,096 Days Of Quit!
http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/02/the- ... s-of-quit/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/02/the-2014-savannah-quit-together-18096-days-of-quit/)
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This is HUGE !!!
Please shop at CVS and show your support so more businesses will take notice and do the same thing !!!!
http://www.cvs.com/?WT.mc_id=PS_DB_0910 ... d%2Bsearch (http://www.cvs.com/?WT.mc_id=PS_DB_0910201...n=paid%2Bsearch)
Excellent!
Just read this news report as well.
Fantastic!!
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Hi there. I'm Tony, and I live in NY. I've been dipping Kodiak since college and I'm 41 now. Have two daughters (4 and 1) and a great wife. I've tried patches several times and they work for a while and then I get back on and start dipping. I don't spit anymore, which I guess is even worse. I used to hate the taste of dip in the morning, and now it's the first thing I do. When I don't get to the dip fast enough, I get really angry and touchy and everyone in the house suffers. My wife begs me to quit constantly. If I've forgotten the tin at home and we head out shopping or to a friend's house, I start internally freaking out and the only thing I can think of is when I can break away and find some convenience store where I can buy another tin. I'm sure (at least I hope) that many of you know the feeling. I dip at the office, constantly checking my teeth in the mirror before meetings, etc.
I read an article recently that said that data shows that only a very small percentage of people are able to quit using quitting aids like patches or gum or pills. And that data shows that long term quitters almost always have quit "cold turkey" (but after several attempts). Whether that's accurate or not, I can say that for me the patches haven't worked. I start to lean on patches like I leaned on dip, basically switching one addiction for the other.
Anway, I've never belonged to an online community and am relatively new at posting, etc. I don't use facebook etc., so I'm sure I'll be making many mistakes in postings etc. Let me apologize in advance.
I guess this is just an introduction and request for some help and advice as to where to go from here. I'd honestly like to quit, and for good. It's quite depressing to me that I can't. I've been able to accomplish some good things in my life and this makes me feel rather helpless and weak. If anyone can help point the way on using this forum, that would be greatly appreciated. I've read various sections and can't find a 2014 HOF quit schedule etc. And have some questions about what to do next. The article I mention above also stated that for those who actually quit, it was essential that they find a support community. I hope this will be mine. Thanks for reading.
Best,
T.
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Hi there. I'm Tony, and I live in NY. I've been dipping Kodiak since college and I'm 41 now. Have two daughters (4 and 1) and a great wife. I've tried patches several times and they work for a while and then I get back on and start dipping. I don't spit anymore, which I guess is even worse. I used to hate the taste of dip in the morning, and now it's the first thing I do. When I don't get to the dip fast enough, I get really angry and touchy and everyone in the house suffers. My wife begs me to quit constantly. If I've forgotten the tin at home and we head out shopping or to a friend's house, I start internally freaking out and the only thing I can think of is when I can break away and find some convenience store where I can buy another tin. I'm sure (at least I hope) that many of you know the feeling. I dip at the office, constantly checking my teeth in the mirror before meetings, etc.
I read an article recently that said that data shows that only a very small percentage of people are able to quit using quitting aids like patches or gum or pills. And that data shows that long term quitters almost always have quit "cold turkey" (but after several attempts). Whether that's accurate or not, I can say that for me the patches haven't worked. I start to lean on patches like I leaned on dip, basically switching one addiction for the other.
Anway, I've never belonged to an online community and am relatively new at posting, etc. I don't use facebook etc., so I'm sure I'll be making many mistakes in postings etc. Let me apologize in advance.
I guess this is just an introduction and request for some help and advice as to where to go from here. I'd honestly like to quit, and for good. It's quite depressing to me that I can't. I've been able to accomplish some good things in my life and this makes me feel rather helpless and weak. If anyone can help point the way on using this forum, that would be greatly appreciated. I've read various sections and can't find a 2014 HOF quit schedule etc. And have some questions about what to do next. The article I mention above also stated that for those who actually quit, it was essential that they find a support community. I hope this will be mine. Thanks for reading.
Best,
T.
Welcome Tony. You've found home.
The truth is, Tony, that when you were on the Patch, you weren't quit. You were just delivering Nicotine to your body in a different system.
It's like saying you quit dipping by picking up cigarettes. No difference.
Cold Turkey is the only way to Quit - here. If you want support, I can garuntee you will get more support than you can imagine. You will find people here that 'get you' better than your longest freind, or even your wife.
We're addicts, and so are you. Once you embrace that fact, and change you mindset that you WILL Quit, you will see the support coming out of the woodwork.
Read up here, as much as you can. When you make the decision, jump in with two feet and DRINK THE KOOL AID.
Don't come here faint of heart. We don't use words like "try" or "hope". We DO. And the thing we DO here is Quit.
You need help, or have questions, PM me by clicking the PM button in my post.
-Nolaq
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Thanks Nolaq. From what I've read you all are dedicated and great folks that help yourselves and each other.
I want to start my quit next Monday, Feb 10, 2014. I feel like I need to mentally prepare for it. Do I join a separate group for that? And if I should be post these replies on a different chat or something, pls let me know. Thanks.
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Thanks Nolaq. From what I've read you all are dedicated and great folks that help yourselves and each other.
I want to start my quit next Monday, Feb 10, 2014. I feel like I need to mentally prepare for it. Do I join a separate group for that? And if I should be post these replies on a different chat or something, pls let me know. Thanks.
Tony, planning your quit is dangerous. I was not mentally prepared to quit, yet I am at day 205 today. A planned quit typically leads to a planned cave. However, if you still feel you have to plan I among others will happily support you. I just know that if you quit today, nicotine will be out of your body by your planned quit date. So why prolog the inevitable?
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Thanks Nolaq. From what I've read you all are dedicated and great folks that help yourselves and each other.Â
I want to start my quit next Monday, Feb 10, 2014. I feel like I need to mentally prepare for it. Do I join a separate group for that? And if I should be post these replies on a different chat or something, pls let me know. Thanks.
Tony, planning your quit is dangerous. I was not mentally prepared to quit, yet I am at day 205 today. A planned quit typically leads to a planned cave. However, if you still feel you have to plan I among others will happily support you. I just know that if you quit today, nicotine will be out of your body by your planned quit date. So why prolog the inevitable?
Don't think. Just quit. It'll suck just as much, if not more, when whatever future date comes. In fact, most folks set a quit date and don't stick to it. The only way to quit is right now.
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Thanks Nolaq. From what I've read you all are dedicated and great folks that help yourselves and each other.Â
I want to start my quit next Monday, Feb 10, 2014.  I feel like I need to mentally prepare for it. Do I join a separate group for that? And if I should be post these replies on a different chat or something, pls let me know. Thanks.
Tony, planning your quit is dangerous. I was not mentally prepared to quit, yet I am at day 205 today. A planned quit typically leads to a planned cave. However, if you still feel you have to plan I among others will happily support you. I just know that if you quit today, nicotine will be out of your body by your planned quit date. So why prolog the inevitable?
Don't think. Just quit. It'll suck just as much, if not more, when whatever future date comes. In fact, most folks set a quit date and don't stick to it. The only way to quit is right now.
Yo Tony - you know what's worse than dipping Kodiak for 2 decades? Dipping Kodiak for 2 decades and a day. All 4 of us responding used over 2 decades as well. All of us gutted that cancer juice. All of us were scared. You are Home Tony. Quit today.
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I hear you guys, thanks so much for the support. I'm kinda freaking out already just thinking about the can I'm staring at and throwing it in the trash and taking it outside the house, then what am I going to do the rest of the day? I want to watch tv tonight with a nice fat lipper in after dinner. Ugh. I sound like an idiot, I know. I guess I just want to put it off as long as possible and still tell myself I "plan" to quit?? Sucks.
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I hear you guys, thanks so much for the support. I'm kinda freaking out already just thinking about the can I'm staring at and throwing it in the trash and taking it outside the house, then what am I going to do the rest of the day? I want to watch tv tonight with a nice fat lipper in after dinner. Ugh. I sound like an idiot, I know. I guess I just want to put it off as long as possible and still tell myself I "plan" to quit?? Sucks.
That's because right now you are in a stare-down contest with the nic-bitch. Are you gonna back down and let her win, or are you gonna kick her to the curb and claim your freedom?
The same stare-down contest that is going on today will be there tomorrow, day after that, etc., UNTIL you kick her to the curb. Here at KTC is where she gets kicked to the curb. We can't quit for you, but we will be here to support you and help you every step of the way.
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I hear you guys, thanks so much for the support. I'm kinda freaking out already just thinking about the can I'm staring at and throwing it in the trash and taking it outside the house, then what am I going to do the rest of the day? I want to watch tv tonight with a nice fat lipper in after dinner. Ugh. I sound like an idiot, I know. I guess I just want to put it off as long as possible and still tell myself I "plan" to quit?? Sucks.
Trust me, no one here has ever thought "Man I'm so glad I done, but I just wish I had one more dip before I quit" There is always a reason to not quit. You are addicted to nicotine, and that addiction is going to tell you any lie it can to keep nicotine flowing through your veins. Quit today; there is no reason to wait.
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I hear you guys, thanks so much for the support. I'm kinda freaking out already just thinking about the can I'm staring at and throwing it in the trash and taking it outside the house, then what am I going to do the rest of the day? I want to watch tv tonight with a nice fat lipper in after dinner. Ugh. I sound like an idiot, I know. I guess I just want to put it off as long as possible and still tell myself I "plan" to quit?? Sucks.
Trust me, no one here has ever thought "Man I'm so glad I done, but I just wish I had one more dip before I quit" There is always a reason to not quit. You are addicted to nicotine, and that addiction is going to tell you any lie it can to keep nicotine flowing through your veins. Quit today; there is no reason to wait.
Fuck that. Quit NOW.
There is a lot of fucking power in flushing that shit NOW.
You know what's going to happen if you plan to quit on Monday? Nothing. You'll find some reason not to do it.
Now.
You know what happens if you Quit Now? On Monday, you will be on Day 6 and the Nicotine will be COMPLETELY OUT OF YOUR BODY!
The question is, Tony, are you comitted? I know you're not ready, but...(listen to me now)...You didn't just trip and find this place.
You are here for a reason.
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I hear you guys, thanks so much for the support. I'm kinda freaking out already just thinking about the can I'm staring at and throwing it in the trash and taking it outside the house, then what am I going to do the rest of the day? I want to watch tv tonight with a nice fat lipper in after dinner. Ugh. I sound like an idiot, I know. I guess I just want to put it off as long as possible and still tell myself I "plan" to quit?? Sucks.
Trust me, no one here has ever thought "Man I'm so glad I done, but I just wish I had one more dip before I quit" There is always a reason to not quit. You are addicted to nicotine, and that addiction is going to tell you any lie it can to keep nicotine flowing through your veins. Quit today; there is no reason to wait.
Fuck that. Quit NOW.
There is a lot of fucking power in flushing that shit NOW.
You know what's going to happen if you plan to quit on Monday? Nothing. You'll find some reason not to do it.
Now.
You know what happens if you Quit Now? On Monday, you will be on Day 6 and the Nicotine will be COMPLETELY OUT OF YOUR BODY!
The question is, Tony, are you comitted? I know you're not ready, but...(listen to me now)...You didn't just trip and find this place.
You are here for a reason.
You can always put it off until Monday, then on Monday when the siren inside the can lures you back you can put it off again until the following Monday. I mean one more week can't hurt right?
I myself was tired of playing Russian roulette with the cancer can.
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I hear you guys, thanks so much for the support. I'm kinda freaking out already just thinking about the can I'm staring at and throwing it in the trash and taking it outside the house, then what am I going to do the rest of the day? I want to watch tv tonight with a nice fat lipper in after dinner. Ugh. I sound like an idiot, I know. I guess I just want to put it off as long as possible and still tell myself I "plan" to quit?? Sucks.
Trust me, no one here has ever thought "Man I'm so glad I done, but I just wish I had one more dip before I quit" There is always a reason to not quit. You are addicted to nicotine, and that addiction is going to tell you any lie it can to keep nicotine flowing through your veins. Quit today; there is no reason to wait.
Fuck that. Quit NOW.
There is a lot of fucking power in flushing that shit NOW.
You know what's going to happen if you plan to quit on Monday? Nothing. You'll find some reason not to do it.
Now.
You know what happens if you Quit Now? On Monday, you will be on Day 6 and the Nicotine will be COMPLETELY OUT OF YOUR BODY!
The question is, Tony, are you comitted? I know you're not ready, but...(listen to me now)...You didn't just trip and find this place.
You are here for a reason.
You can always put it off until Monday, then on Monday when the siren inside the can lures you back you can put it off again until the following Monday. I mean one more week can't hurt right?
I myself was tired of playing Russian roulette with the cancer can.
Don't wait, just do it. It's like a fucking nasty band aid that is stuck in a spot with too much hair, you just gotta rip that son of a bitch off!
The sooner you put the shit down, the sooner you can begin healing process. I hope you join us.
Quit on!
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Tony,
Trust these guys, they know what they are talking about. If you really want to quit, now is the time. Not some 'comfort date' you pick in the future. I can guaran-danm-tee you that when Monday rolls around, you're going to have a harder time quitting than if you start now.
I'm not telling you this to sound like some kind of quit expert. I'm telling you because I was there, in your shoes, many times....and each time I failed. The day I joined KTC I had almost two full sleeves of Kodiak in my possession and a mind that was chock full of 'comfort dates' that were out in the future about as far as those two sleeves were gonna last me. My previous attempts at quitting all failed on or shortly after my 'quit date'.
27 days ago, I threw away those two sleeves of poison, all empty cans, spitters, and even cleaned that crap out of the upholstery of my car. Was I scared shitless? You bet. I felt cold (literally, like up my spine cold), alone, and uncertain about whether I would be strong enough to finally quit.....but I prevailed and so can you.
All of the tools you will ever need to quit can be found, or developed here. Send me a PM and I'll give you my phone number. I will help you start TODAY, and you will have all of these fine folks here behind you all the way.
(Updated) Decided to be proactive and send you a PM. You have my number. Call me when you're ready.
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Tony,
Trust these guys, they know what they are talking about. If you really want to quit, now is the time. Not some 'comfort date' you pick in the future. I can guaran-danm-tee you that when Monday rolls around, you're going to have a harder time quitting than if you start now.
I'm not telling you this to sound like some kind of quit expert. I'm telling you because I was there, in your shoes, many times....and each time I failed. The day I joined KTC I had almost two full sleeves of Kodiak in my possession and a mind that was chock full of 'comfort dates' that were out in the future about as far as those two sleeves were gonna last me. My previous attempts at quitting all failed on or shortly after my 'quit date'.
27 days ago, I threw away those two sleeves of poison, all empty cans, spitters, and even cleaned that crap out of the upholstery of my car. Was I scared shitless? You bet. I felt cold (literally, like up my spine cold), alone, and uncertain about whether I would be strong enough to finally quit.....but I prevailed and so can you.
All of the tools you will ever need to quit can be found, or developed here. Send me a PM and I'll give you my phone number. I will help you start TODAY, and you will have all of these fine folks here behind you all the way.
(Updated) Decided to be proactive and send you a PM. You have my number. Call me when you're ready.
ITS SIMPLE......QUIT NOW OR DIE !!
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Tony,
I have planned quit dates every few weeks for the last year to no avail and 17 days ago I finally made the commitment to myself after stumbling onto this site. ON THE SPOT, I promised to never have another dip again. These guys are right, Quit now with us TODAY and you will have quit that many more days by your set quit date. Yeah its scary as hell. Yeah the cravings are intense for a while. But chances are if you quit today, you won't die from cancer.
Just think about this. say your planned quit date falls through and 6 months from now you go to the dentist and he says you have mouth cancer. You have a year to live and if you're lucky you might just have your jaw cut out.. What if that cancer started forming within the next few days and could have totally been prevented if you quit today. imagining that scared the shit out of me. JUST QUIT. do it for yourself, I imagine you like being alive.
You're here on the forum already, post up roll in the morning and promise yourself you wont use.
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Tony,
I have planned quit dates every few weeks for the last year to no avail and 17 days ago I finally made the commitment to myself after stumbling onto this site. ON THE SPOT, I promised to never have another dip again. These guys are right, Quit now with us TODAY and you will have quit that many more days by your set quit date. Yeah its scary as hell. Yeah the cravings are intense for a while. But chances are if you quit today, you won't die from cancer.
Just think about this. say your planned quit date falls through and 6 months from now you go to the dentist and he says you have mouth cancer. You have a year to live and if you're lucky you might just have your jaw cut out.. What if that cancer started forming within the next few days and could have totally been prevented if you quit today. imagining that scared the shit out of me. JUST QUIT. do it for yourself, I imagine you like being alive.
You're here on the forum already, post up roll in the morning and promise yourself you wont use.
Shit I found reasons or excuses for one more for 40 years. It's all a lie, one more just leads to another one more! Quit now with me.
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Strike 1 (http://www.nytimes.com/1998/04/26/sports/baseball-the-doctors-said-strike-1-and-schilling-acted.html)
Strike 2 (http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/columnist/saraceno/2005-03-08-saraceno-smokeless_x.htm)
Strike 3? (http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10403896/curt-schilling-diagnosed-cancer)
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Strike 1 (http://www.nytimes.com/1998/04/26/sports/baseball-the-doctors-said-strike-1-and-schilling-acted.html)
Strike 2 (http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/columnist/saraceno/2005-03-08-saraceno-smokeless_x.htm)
Strike 3? (http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10403896/curt-schilling-diagnosed-cancer)
Excellent post!
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Strike 1 (http://www.nytimes.com/1998/04/26/sports/baseball-the-doctors-said-strike-1-and-schilling-acted.html)
Strike 2 (http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/columnist/saraceno/2005-03-08-saraceno-smokeless_x.htm)
Strike 3? (http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10403896/curt-schilling-diagnosed-cancer)
Excellent post!
credit must be given to my fellow dec 13 brothers for finding the first two articles.
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Strike 1 (http://www.nytimes.com/1998/04/26/sports/baseball-the-doctors-said-strike-1-and-schilling-acted.html)
Strike 2 (http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/columnist/saraceno/2005-03-08-saraceno-smokeless_x.htm)
Strike 3? (http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10403896/curt-schilling-diagnosed-cancer)
Excellent post!
credit must be given to my fellow dec 13 brothers for finding the first two articles.
Curt should come visit.
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Strike 1 (http://www.nytimes.com/1998/04/26/sports/baseball-the-doctors-said-strike-1-and-schilling-acted.html)
Strike 2 (http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/columnist/saraceno/2005-03-08-saraceno-smokeless_x.htm)
Strike 3? (http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10403896/curt-schilling-diagnosed-cancer)
Excellent post!
credit must be given to my fellow dec 13 brothers for finding the first two articles.
Curt should come visit.
Good read! Thanks for sharing!!! Getting the majors to do the right thing and ban dip would be a step in the right direction and would remove some of the "glamor" smokeless currently has with young people.
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Hey Guys Just joined up My quit date was 01/13/14 Been dipping Copenhagen Snuff for 35 yrs.
I don't see any quit groups for 2014 so I really dont know what to do from here.
Thanks
Randy
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Hey Guys Just joined up My quit date was 01/13/14 Been dipping Copenhagen Snuff for 35 yrs.
I don't see any quit groups for 2014 so I really dont know what to do from here.
Thanks
Randy
Randy,
Congratz on your quit bro, but April 2014 is your quit group. When you go to the quit groups page just scroll down and look for pre HOF April 2014
I'll pm you as well
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Hey Guys Just joined up My quit date was 01/13/14 Been dipping Copenhagen Snuff for 35 yrs.
I don't see any quit groups for 2014 so I really dont know what to do from here.
Thanks
Randy
Randy,
Congratz on your quit bro, but April 2014 is your quit group. When you go to the quit groups page just scroll down and look for pre HOF April 2014
I'll pm you as well
Pre HOF April 2014 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=9259)
Click the underlined words for a direct link to that place.
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Strike 1 (http://www.nytimes.com/1998/04/26/sports/baseball-the-doctors-said-strike-1-and-schilling-acted.html)
Strike 2 (http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/columnist/saraceno/2005-03-08-saraceno-smokeless_x.htm)
Strike 3? (http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10403896/curt-schilling-diagnosed-cancer)
Excellent post!
credit must be given to my fellow dec 13 brothers for finding the first two articles.
Curt should come visit.
Good read! Thanks for sharing!!! Getting the majors to do the right thing and ban dip would be a step in the right direction and would remove some of the "glamor" smokeless currently has with young people.
Nolaq nailed it on the head. I almost feel guilty that Curt doesn't know about this site. Proof that money can't buy you a quit. Good luck Curt and thanks again KTC.
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Strike 1 (http://www.nytimes.com/1998/04/26/sports/baseball-the-doctors-said-strike-1-and-schilling-acted.html)
Strike 2 (http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/columnist/saraceno/2005-03-08-saraceno-smokeless_x.htm)
Strike 3? (http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10403896/curt-schilling-diagnosed-cancer)
Excellent post!
credit must be given to my fellow dec 13 brothers for finding the first two articles.
Curt should come visit.
Good read! Thanks for sharing!!! Getting the majors to do the right thing and ban dip would be a step in the right direction and would remove some of the "glamor" smokeless currently has with young people.
Tough times don't last. Tough people do.
That's sad that the first article is in 1998. The second article (when he finally stops) is in 2005. Who knows what's happened in the last so many years? HE HAD HIS WAKEUP CALL 16 YEARS AGO!
Prayers.
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Strike 1 (http://www.nytimes.com/1998/04/26/sports/baseball-the-doctors-said-strike-1-and-schilling-acted.html)
Strike 2 (http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/columnist/saraceno/2005-03-08-saraceno-smokeless_x.htm)
Strike 3? (http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10403896/curt-schilling-diagnosed-cancer)
Excellent post!
credit must be given to my fellow dec 13 brothers for finding the first two articles.
Curt should come visit.
Good read! Thanks for sharing!!! Getting the majors to do the right thing and ban dip would be a step in the right direction and would remove some of the "glamor" smokeless currently has with young people.
Tough times don't last. Tough people do.
That's sad that the first article is in 1998. The second article (when he finally stops) is in 2005. Who knows what's happened in the last so many years? HE HAD HIS WAKEUP CALL 16 YEARS AGO!
Prayers.
Did he quit in 2005? I thought he caved after that, too.
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Strike 1 (http://www.nytimes.com/1998/04/26/sports/baseball-the-doctors-said-strike-1-and-schilling-acted.html)
Strike 2 (http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/columnist/saraceno/2005-03-08-saraceno-smokeless_x.htm)
Strike 3? (http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10403896/curt-schilling-diagnosed-cancer)
Excellent post!
credit must be given to my fellow dec 13 brothers for finding the first two articles.
Curt should come visit.
Good read! Thanks for sharing!!! Getting the majors to do the right thing and ban dip would be a step in the right direction and would remove some of the "glamor" smokeless currently has with young people.
Tough times don't last. Tough people do.
That's sad that the first article is in 1998. The second article (when he finally stops) is in 2005. Who knows what's happened in the last so many years? HE HAD HIS WAKEUP CALL 16 YEARS AGO!
Prayers.
Did he quit in 2005? I thought he caved after that, too.
Honestly, outside of these walls...would it surprise you?
His story is nothing new. Hell, do a google search on "Curt Schilling, Chewing Tobacco". You'll find articles galore about how he "kicked the habit" in 1998.
Then, there is nothing.
Then, he "stopped" in spring training 2005.
There is no more press on it until today.
Would it surprise you that he hid it like we did? That he fell to the same demons we see others fall to here because they don't take this seriously? That his body rejected the abuse he subjected it to for years?
Nah...Curt is an addict that hasn't seen the light. Hopefully he will one day, and hopefully the catcher drops the ball here giving him a chance to leg one out to first. But that's just not in his control anymore, is it?
There's a reason we quit, and there's a method to the madness here. We can't forget, and we shouldn't forget.
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Strike 1 (http://www.nytimes.com/1998/04/26/sports/baseball-the-doctors-said-strike-1-and-schilling-acted.html)
Strike 2 (http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/columnist/saraceno/2005-03-08-saraceno-smokeless_x.htm)
Strike 3? (http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10403896/curt-schilling-diagnosed-cancer)
Excellent post!
credit must be given to my fellow dec 13 brothers for finding the first two articles.
Curt should come visit.
Good read! Thanks for sharing!!! Getting the majors to do the right thing and ban dip would be a step in the right direction and would remove some of the "glamor" smokeless currently has with young people.
Tough times don't last. Tough people do.
That's sad that the first article is in 1998. The second article (when he finally stops) is in 2005. Who knows what's happened in the last so many years? HE HAD HIS WAKEUP CALL 16 YEARS AGO!
Prayers.
Did he quit in 2005? I thought he caved after that, too.
Honestly, outside of these walls...would it surprise you?
His story is nothing new. Hell, do a google search on "Curt Schilling, Chewing Tobacco". You'll find articles galore about how he "kicked the habit" in 1998.
Then, there is nothing.
Then, he "stopped" in spring training 2005.
There is no more press on it until today.
Would it surprise you that he hid it like we did? That he fell to the same demons we see others fall to here because they don't take this seriously? That his body rejected the abuse he subjected it to for years?
Nah...Curt is an addict that hasn't seen the light. Hopefully he will one day, and hopefully the catcher drops the ball here giving him a chance to leg one out to first. But that's just not in his control anymore, is it?
There's a reason we quit, and there's a method to the madness here. We can't forget, and we shouldn't forget.
Truth ^^^^ right there.
What ever happened to Tony Gwynn?
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Strike 1 (http://www.nytimes.com/1998/04/26/sports/baseball-the-doctors-said-strike-1-and-schilling-acted.html)
Strike 2 (http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/columnist/saraceno/2005-03-08-saraceno-smokeless_x.htm)
Strike 3? (http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10403896/curt-schilling-diagnosed-cancer)
Excellent post!
credit must be given to my fellow dec 13 brothers for finding the first two articles.
Curt should come visit.
Good read! Thanks for sharing!!! Getting the majors to do the right thing and ban dip would be a step in the right direction and would remove some of the "glamor" smokeless currently has with young people.
Tough times don't last. Tough people do.
That's sad that the first article is in 1998. The second article (when he finally stops) is in 2005. Who knows what's happened in the last so many years? HE HAD HIS WAKEUP CALL 16 YEARS AGO!
Prayers.
Did he quit in 2005? I thought he caved after that, too.
Honestly, outside of these walls...would it surprise you?
His story is nothing new. Hell, do a google search on "Curt Schilling, Chewing Tobacco". You'll find articles galore about how he "kicked the habit" in 1998.
Then, there is nothing.
Then, he "stopped" in spring training 2005.
There is no more press on it until today.
Would it surprise you that he hid it like we did? That he fell to the same demons we see others fall to here because they don't take this seriously? That his body rejected the abuse he subjected it to for years?
Nah...Curt is an addict that hasn't seen the light. Hopefully he will one day, and hopefully the catcher drops the ball here giving him a chance to leg one out to first. But that's just not in his control anymore, is it?
There's a reason we quit, and there's a method to the madness here. We can't forget, and we shouldn't forget.
I found it interesting that the article didn't mention and Curt isn't sharing the type of cancer or his prognosis. Doesn't seem to bode well, but that is all speculation.
The most telling line in the article for me was this
"Joe, I never thought it would happen to me; I always thought it would happen to the other guy," he told Garagiola. "Guess what? I'm the other guy."
Powerful stuff
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I get a kick out of guts like nsk.
They have it figured out, or so they think. . He talks himself in circles and is full of speculation and one man theories. He has no idea what lies ahead, but many here do.
While this is a unique addiction, the commonalities amongst quitters is astonishing, and they are REAL. They don't come about because you read "what to expect when you quit". There is no osmosis going on here, ktc or no ktc the struggles and feelings one experiences when they quit would be the same. This isn't a cult of made up stories. It's a brotherhood of people trying to help others cope by providing support and sharing real life experiences.
As for his theory that "one day" we will be cured...It doesnt register with me. The only thing I'm focused on is TODAY, because that's all I, and anyone else, can control.
Quit on....
Wow. I feel like I am reading my own thoughts when I read this guys posts, NSK. I hope he finds his way to freedom. I hope that his misconceptions are remedied.
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Wow. I feel like I am reading my own thoughts when I read this guys posts, NSK. I hope he finds his way to freedom. I hope that his misconceptions are remedied.
For what it's worth, I guess I'll thank you for the well wishes and general good will.
And also for not trying to make me feel subhuman simply because I don't share the same point of view as you.
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Wow. I feel like I am reading my own thoughts when I read this guys posts, NSK. I hope he finds his way to freedom. I hope that his misconceptions are remedied.
For what it's worth, I guess I'll thank you for the well wishes and general good will.
And also for not trying to make me feel subhuman simply because I don't share the same point of view as you.
I think folks here are just trying to help you out, nster. Our view comes from experience and the neurological make up of our brains. To come to grips with the concept of never having "just one" is one of the most difficult hurdles to overcome on ones quit journey. I think Philip Seymour Hoffman's three little kids might agree. It was pointed out just yesterday how Curt Schilling has struggled with the concept since the late 90's. Your position has been proven false repeatedly which is the reasoning behind the negativity you've encountered. Your point of view kills people, KTC saves lives. What's it going to be?
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Wow. I feel like I am reading my own thoughts when I read this guys posts, NSK. I hope he finds his way to freedom. I hope that his misconceptions are remedied.
For what it's worth, I guess I'll thank you for the well wishes and general good will.
And also for not trying to make me feel subhuman simply because I don't share the same point of view as you.
I think folks here are just trying to help you out, nster. Our view comes from experience and the neurological make up of our brains. To come to grips with the concept of never having "just one" is one of the most difficult hurdles to overcome on ones quit journey. I think Philip Seymour Hoffman's three little kids might agree. It was pointed out just yesterday how Curt Schilling has struggled with the concept since the late 90's. Your position has been proven false repeatedly which is the reasoning behind the negativity you've encountered. Your point of view kills people, KTC saves lives. What's it going to be?
What ^^^ he said.
Drink the Kool Aid.
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I think folks here are just trying to help you out, nster. Our view comes from experience and the neurological make up of our brains. To come to grips with the concept of never having "just one" is one of the most difficult hurdles to overcome on ones quit journey. I think Philip Seymour Hoffman's three little kids might agree. It was pointed out just yesterday how Curt Schilling has struggled with the concept since the late 90's. Your position has been proven false repeatedly which is the reasoning behind the negativity you've encountered. Your point of view kills people, KTC saves lives. What's it going to be?
I understand and thank you sincerely.
My skull has become jelly red mush from banging it so hard against the brick wall so I can't continue to do it: if people cannot understand the words I write, then I should probably resign my career as a freelance writer and go bag groceries.
If you were to reread my posts, I do not give any kind of arguments that ppl like Hoffman would NOT see their death with just 'one more'. Quite the opposite. I do not think that anyone still struggling with an addiction should ever dare to take just 'one more'. And I agree, that will always lead to failure.
The main point I was making is that I, PERSONALLY (meaning you do not have to agree) is that being an addict is actually a title we give ourselves and embrace: it's an identity. It is why addicts can never have 'just one'. Because they have embraced the identity of BEING an addict.
I, as a Christian, believe that I am not an addict. I believe I am a sinner who has been redeemed with the blood my Savior shed for me on a cross. I believe Him when he says that what I believe will be. I believe if I tell myself I am an addict, then I am an addict, and that is a person who is indeed without hope of ever being completely 'cured', as you folks have asserted that you believe. I believe I am a human, a man, created by God, who has struggled through several different addictions, addictive and destructive behaviors and attitudes and other deadly perils.
I believe that Chirst when He says that anything is possible for God. So I believe that when you folks declare being cured from an addiction, or outgrowing is an addiction, is impossible, that that is not always true. I believe it is possible. I believe it is in God's hands, but if we do not believe it is possible, it will never come to be.
Let it be known, then, we believe different things and that is perfectly okay. It is still legal and a good thing for me to quite chewing tobacco, a deadly and cancerous addictive substance, if I so choose. Simply because I do not agree with your philosophy does not mean I should continue using tobacco. It also does not mean that I will end up using tobacco again simply because I do not embrace an identity that declares me to be an addict.
It also does not mean that I should not be allowed to post roll if I so choose, which moderators continue to delete: let it be known that I have and that it is never approved. Obviously, my posting to roll is not to gain support from your community (which has shown me nothing but contempt) but more an accountability display and stating honestly and publicly that I have not used tobacco for 31 days DESPITE not embracing an identity as an addict. I understand this would mean more after 5 years and not 31 days but, alas, I am not in control of the space time continuum.
And for the final record: if an individual has embraced an identity as an addict, then they should NEVER try and take just 'one more'. I thought that was pretty clear in my posts but apparently, it was not.
Good day, gentlemen.
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Wow. I feel like I am reading my own thoughts when I read this guys posts, NSK. I hope he finds his way to freedom. I hope that his misconceptions are remedied.
For what it's worth, I guess I'll thank you for the well wishes and general good will.
And also for not trying to make me feel subhuman simply because I don't share the same point of view as you.
I know a guy, "Joe" who started smoking in high school. At age 35 he quit cold turkey.
Fast forward SEVEN years. He was at a 4th of July party watching people set off fireworks. His brother was head of pyrotechnics and was lighting them with his cigarette. He had to take a piss, much to the dismay of the kids on hand. So rather than pausing the show Uncle Joe grabbed the cigarette and continued with the show.
He lit a rocket, put the cigarette in his mouth and ran away while the firework went skyward.
As he was innoctly running away he took a drag of the cigarette and ended up smoking the whole thing.
That night on his way home from the party he stopped and bought a pack.
He has smoked one to two packs a day since. He was 42 then and is 53 now.
He said it was the biggest mistake of his life, but says he has not had the motivation to quit again.His exact quote..."ahhhh fuck, I know I need to quit that shit again but it's so Fucking hard. I wish I never put that son of a bitch in my mouth. Oh well, fuck it. We all gotta die of something".
I wonder where this leaves your theory?. Maybe if he had waited TEN years he could have had a puff of that cigarette and been ok?
Dude...your theory blows and we see the law of addiction proven over and over again.
We are here to QUIT...FOR GOOD.
Not so someday (which nobody knows when) we can have a dip again.
That's just Fucking stupid and addict logic at it's finest.
The ktc train will roll on with or without you.
Quit on...
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Wow. I feel like I am reading my own thoughts when I read this guys posts, NSK. I hope he finds his way to freedom. I hope that his misconceptions are remedied.
For what it's worth, I guess I'll thank you for the well wishes and general good will.
And also for not trying to make me feel subhuman simply because I don't share the same point of view as you.
I know a guy, "Joe" who started smoking in high school. At age 35 he quit cold turkey.
Fast forward SEVEN years. He was at a 4th of July party watching people set off fireworks. His brother was head of pyrotechnics and was lighting them with his cigarette. He had to take a piss, much to the dismay of the kids on hand. So rather than pausing the show Uncle Joe grabbed the cigarette and continued with the show.
He lit a rocket, put the cigarette in his mouth and ran away while the firework went skyward.
As he was innoctly running away he took a drag of the cigarette and ended up smoking the whole thing.
That night on his way home from the party he stopped and bought a pack.
He has smoked one to two packs a day since. He was 42 then and is 53 now.
He said it was the biggest mistake of his life, but says he has not had the motivation to quit again.His exact quote..."ahhhh fuck, I know I need to quit that shit again but it's so Fucking hard. I wish I never put that son of a bitch in my mouth. Oh well, fuck it. We all gotta die of something".
I wonder where this leaves your theory?. Maybe if he had waited TEN years he could have had a puff of that cigarette and been ok?
Dude...your theory blows and we see the law of addiction proven over and over again.
We are here to QUIT...FOR GOOD.
Not so someday (which nobody knows when) we can have a dip again.
That's just Fucking stupid and addict logic at it's finest.
The ktc train will roll on with or without you.
Quit on...
Nsterk,
I'm not trying to out-do Diesel, but I have a story that echoes similarly. I was in Walmart about a month ago. A couple in line in front of me let me go ahead because they saw I did not have anything in my hands. I thanked the elderly guy and stated that I was there to buy some Smokey Mountain. We began talking, and he told me that he had quit 20 years but "like a fool started back." He said all it took was just one. He said that he still regrets ever smoking that one cigarette. I told him about KTC and the Smokey Mountain alternative. He encouraged me to stay quit and not to follow his mistake.
Btw, I have not seen you post roll yet. I have been looking for you on roll call. Do you have any intention of posting roll? What is your purpose here?
I see you lurking when a brand new member posts in here. Please tell me that you are not 'sniping' them with PM's of your erroneous psychological quit-method?? If need be I will PM every new member to inquire. Please. If you are going to hang around here, Diesl, Nolaq, CopingwithoutCope, Gmann, Mjollnir, Pinched, and many many others can show you how to quit and remain quit. However, that requires what WastePanel told you the first time you posted in here: "If you are going to play on our playground, then you have to play by our rules" (i.e., post roll and remain nicotine free). I hope you make the right decision.
JW
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Strike 1 (http://www.nytimes.com/1998/04/26/sports/baseball-the-doctors-said-strike-1-and-schilling-acted.html)
Strike 2 (http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/columnist/saraceno/2005-03-08-saraceno-smokeless_x.htm)
Strike 3? (http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10403896/curt-schilling-diagnosed-cancer)
Excellent post!
credit must be given to my fellow dec 13 brothers for finding the first two articles.
Curt should come visit.
Good read! Thanks for sharing!!! Getting the majors to do the right thing and ban dip would be a step in the right direction and would remove some of the "glamor" smokeless currently has with young people.
Tough times don't last. Tough people do.
That's sad that the first article is in 1998. The second article (when he finally stops) is in 2005. Who knows what's happened in the last so many years? HE HAD HIS WAKEUP CALL 16 YEARS AGO!
Prayers.
Did he quit in 2005? I thought he caved after that, too.
Honestly, outside of these walls...would it surprise you?
His story is nothing new. Hell, do a google search on "Curt Schilling, Chewing Tobacco". You'll find articles galore about how he "kicked the habit" in 1998.
Then, there is nothing.
Then, he "stopped" in spring training 2005.
There is no more press on it until today.
Would it surprise you that he hid it like we did? That he fell to the same demons we see others fall to here because they don't take this seriously? That his body rejected the abuse he subjected it to for years?
Nah...Curt is an addict that hasn't seen the light. Hopefully he will one day, and hopefully the catcher drops the ball here giving him a chance to leg one out to first. But that's just not in his control anymore, is it?
There's a reason we quit, and there's a method to the madness here. We can't forget, and we shouldn't forget.
I found it interesting that the article didn't mention and Curt isn't sharing the type of cancer or his prognosis. Doesn't seem to bode well, but that is all speculation.
The most telling line in the article for me was this
"Joe, I never thought it would happen to me; I always thought it would happen to the other guy," he told Garagiola. "Guess what? I'm the other guy."
Powerful stuff
And now Spock is biting the big one due to tobacco and he quit 30 years ago it says.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/07/showbiz/c ... ?hpt=hp_t2 (http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/07/showbiz/celebrity-news-gossip/leonard-nimoy-chronic-lung-disease/index.html?hpt=hp_t2)
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Strike 1 (http://www.nytimes.com/1998/04/26/sports/baseball-the-doctors-said-strike-1-and-schilling-acted.html)
Strike 2 (http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/columnist/saraceno/2005-03-08-saraceno-smokeless_x.htm)
Strike 3? (http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10403896/curt-schilling-diagnosed-cancer)
Excellent post!
credit must be given to my fellow dec 13 brothers for finding the first two articles.
Curt should come visit.
Good read! Thanks for sharing!!! Getting the majors to do the right thing and ban dip would be a step in the right direction and would remove some of the "glamor" smokeless currently has with young people.
Tough times don't last. Tough people do.
That's sad that the first article is in 1998. The second article (when he finally stops) is in 2005. Who knows what's happened in the last so many years? HE HAD HIS WAKEUP CALL 16 YEARS AGO!
Prayers.
Did he quit in 2005? I thought he caved after that, too.
Honestly, outside of these walls...would it surprise you?
His story is nothing new. Hell, do a google search on "Curt Schilling, Chewing Tobacco". You'll find articles galore about how he "kicked the habit" in 1998.
Then, there is nothing.
Then, he "stopped" in spring training 2005.
There is no more press on it until today.
Would it surprise you that he hid it like we did? That he fell to the same demons we see others fall to here because they don't take this seriously? That his body rejected the abuse he subjected it to for years?
Nah...Curt is an addict that hasn't seen the light. Hopefully he will one day, and hopefully the catcher drops the ball here giving him a chance to leg one out to first. But that's just not in his control anymore, is it?
There's a reason we quit, and there's a method to the madness here. We can't forget, and we shouldn't forget.
I found it interesting that the article didn't mention and Curt isn't sharing the type of cancer or his prognosis. Doesn't seem to bode well, but that is all speculation.
The most telling line in the article for me was this
"Joe, I never thought it would happen to me; I always thought it would happen to the other guy," he told Garagiola. "Guess what? I'm the other guy."
Powerful stuff
And now Spock is biting the big one due to tobacco and he quit 30 years ago it says.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/07/showbiz/c ... ?hpt=hp_t2 (http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/07/showbiz/celebrity-news-gossip/leonard-nimoy-chronic-lung-disease/index.html?hpt=hp_t2)
So he did stop for a few years,took a pinch from a 'friend' @ a golf tournament so I read.
Unleashed the lion, imagine it would be different if he posted here.
I met Curt. A good friend suffered from ALS,dude donated his time,a jersey,signed and met with him as well. Still sends a check towards a scholarship in his name.'It's the hardest thing I've ever done'he said when asked about quiting.
Gents think about the discipline it takes to be a professional athlete,then think about what it takes to give your word. Pretty much a wash don't ya think.Perhaps the press coverage will reach the youngsters,give them pause,open some eyes.Hopefully MLB will ban this shit,and his peers will realize they too are pissing their lives away.Fight the fight Curt,god bless.
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Wow. I feel like I am reading my own thoughts when I read this guys posts, NSK. I hope he finds his way to freedom. I hope that his misconceptions are remedied.
For what it's worth, I guess I'll thank you for the well wishes and general good will.
And also for not trying to make me feel subhuman simply because I don't share the same point of view as you.
I know a guy, "Joe" who started smoking in high school. At age 35 he quit cold turkey.
Fast forward SEVEN years. He was at a 4th of July party watching people set off fireworks. His brother was head of pyrotechnics and was lighting them with his cigarette. He had to take a piss, much to the dismay of the kids on hand. So rather than pausing the show Uncle Joe grabbed the cigarette and continued with the show.
He lit a rocket, put the cigarette in his mouth and ran away while the firework went skyward.
As he was innoctly running away he took a drag of the cigarette and ended up smoking the whole thing.
That night on his way home from the party he stopped and bought a pack.
He has smoked one to two packs a day since. He was 42 then and is 53 now.
He said it was the biggest mistake of his life, but says he has not had the motivation to quit again.His exact quote..."ahhhh fuck, I know I need to quit that shit again but it's so Fucking hard. I wish I never put that son of a bitch in my mouth. Oh well, fuck it. We all gotta die of something".
I wonder where this leaves your theory?. Maybe if he had waited TEN years he could have had a puff of that cigarette and been ok?
Dude...your theory blows and we see the law of addiction proven over and over again.
We are here to QUIT...FOR GOOD.
Not so someday (which nobody knows when) we can have a dip again.
That's just Fucking stupid and addict logic at it's finest.
The ktc train will roll on with or without you.
Quit on...
Nsterk,
I'm not trying to out-do Diesel, but I have a story that echoes similarly. I was in Walmart about a month ago. A couple in line in front of me let me go ahead because they saw I did not have anything in my hands. I thanked the elderly guy and stated that I was there to buy some Smokey Mountain. We began talking, and he told me that he had quit 20 years but "like a fool started back." He said all it took was just one. He said that he still regrets ever smoking that one cigarette. I told him about KTC and the Smokey Mountain alternative. He encouraged me to stay quit and not to follow his mistake.
Btw, I have not seen you post roll yet. I have been looking for you on roll call. Do you have any intention of posting roll? What is your purpose here?
I see you lurking when a brand new member posts in here. Please tell me that you are not 'sniping' them with PM's of your erroneous psychological quit-method?? If need be I will PM every new member to inquire. Please. If you are going to hang around here, Diesl, Nolaq, CopingwithoutCope, Gmann, Mjollnir, Pinched, and many many others can show you how to quit and remain quit. However, that requires what WastePanel told you the first time you posted in here: "If you are going to play on our playground, then you have to play by our rules" (i.e., post roll and remain nicotine free). I hope you make the right decision.
JW
One is too many, a thousand aren't enough.
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The "Swashbuckling September Vigilantes"...aka, the Pirates, get their first comma today. Stop by September 2011 and share some congrats with dchogs.
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The "Swashbuckling September Vigilantes"...aka, the Pirates, get their first comma today. Stop by September 2011 and share some congrats with dchogs.
thanks, brother!
just a point of note, i am only an honorary pirate, though it's awesome that i'm considered one of the actual crew. i'm a legit Monk of August 11. swing by either place for some of the brother's heavenly brew... i'll leave a keg or 10 on the pirate ship.
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New Blog Post: KillTheCan.org Is On The Move!!!
http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/02/kill ... -the-move/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/02/killthecan-org-is-on-the-move/)
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New Blog Post: KillTheCan.org Is On The Move!!!
http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/02/kill ... -the-move/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/02/killthecan-org-is-on-the-move/)
Growing pains are a good thing. I found this while searching to see if anyone else was experiencing the weirdness. I'll be here growing with KTC.
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Strike 1 (http://www.nytimes.com/1998/04/26/sports/baseball-the-doctors-said-strike-1-and-schilling-acted.html)
Strike 2 (http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/columnist/saraceno/2005-03-08-saraceno-smokeless_x.htm)
Strike 3? (http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10403896/curt-schilling-diagnosed-cancer)
Excellent post!
credit must be given to my fellow dec 13 brothers for finding the first two articles.
Curt should come visit.
Good read! Thanks for sharing!!! Getting the majors to do the right thing and ban dip would be a step in the right direction and would remove some of the "glamor" smokeless currently has with young people.
Tough times don't last. Tough people do.
That's sad that the first article is in 1998. The second article (when he finally stops) is in 2005. Who knows what's happened in the last so many years? HE HAD HIS WAKEUP CALL 16 YEARS AGO!
Prayers.
Did he quit in 2005? I thought he caved after that, too.
Honestly, outside of these walls...would it surprise you?
His story is nothing new. Hell, do a google search on "Curt Schilling, Chewing Tobacco". You'll find articles galore about how he "kicked the habit" in 1998.
Then, there is nothing.
Then, he "stopped" in spring training 2005.
There is no more press on it until today.
Would it surprise you that he hid it like we did? That he fell to the same demons we see others fall to here because they don't take this seriously? That his body rejected the abuse he subjected it to for years?
Nah...Curt is an addict that hasn't seen the light. Hopefully he will one day, and hopefully the catcher drops the ball here giving him a chance to leg one out to first. But that's just not in his control anymore, is it?
There's a reason we quit, and there's a method to the madness here. We can't forget, and we shouldn't forget.
I found it interesting that the article didn't mention and Curt isn't sharing the type of cancer or his prognosis. Doesn't seem to bode well, but that is all speculation.
The most telling line in the article for me was this
"Joe, I never thought it would happen to me; I always thought it would happen to the other guy," he told Garagiola. "Guess what? I'm the other guy."
Powerful stuff
And now Spock is biting the big one due to tobacco and he quit 30 years ago it says.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/07/showbiz/c ... ?hpt=hp_t2 (http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/07/showbiz/celebrity-news-gossip/leonard-nimoy-chronic-lung-disease/index.html?hpt=hp_t2)
So he did stop for a few years,took a pinch from a 'friend' @ a golf tournament so I read.
Unleashed the lion, imagine it would be different if he posted here.
I met Curt. A good friend suffered from ALS,dude donated his time,a jersey,signed and met with him as well. Still sends a check towards a scholarship in his name.'It's the hardest thing I've ever done'he said when asked about quiting.
Gents think about the discipline it takes to be a professional athlete,then think about what it takes to give your word. Pretty much a wash don't ya think.Perhaps the press coverage will reach the youngsters,give them pause,open some eyes.Hopefully MLB will ban this shit,and his peers will realize they too are pissing their lives away.Fight the fight Curt,god bless.
I seem to remember an article in SI he did in 04 or 05, where he was talking about everything his wife has gone through with skin cancer. The reporter made mention that Curt was in the training room and was spitting into a little paper cup. He also mentioned that the irony of the situation wasn't lost on Curt and that Curt acknowledged he had to quit.
I'm a BoSox fan, and I've always admired Schilling's tenacity as an athlete. But it is hard to reconcile that admiration with someone who knowingly jeopardized his health, and knowingly subjected himself to a higher risk of cancer, while spouting off on the dangers of skin cancer.
I know he's always been a supporter of ALS charities, too. But it does come off as disingenuous.
Regardless, I wish death nor cancer on anyone. I wish him well. If it is oral/throat/stomach cancer, I hope he steps up again and gives the world the truth they need to hear and Comes clean about his habit and its contribution to his disease.
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Well in 3 days I hit 1,200 days. wow, it has been a wide crazy ride - friends made, friends lost, quitters stay, quitters go. I believe in paying it forward and I have done that in the past. On Wednesday - I will hit 1,200 days. I will donate $5 for every post in february 2011 that mentions FFF - February Felllowship of the Free. I will do it up to $1,200.
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Well in 3 days I hit 1,200 days. wow, it has been a wide crazy ride - friends made, friends lost, quitters stay, quitters go. I believe in paying it forward and I have done that in the past. On Wednesday - I will hit 1,200 days. I will donate $5 for every post in february 2011 that mentions FFF - February Felllowship of the Free. I will do it up to $1,200.
In awe, my friend.
You rock. 'Nuff said.
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Well in 3 days I hit 1,200 days. wow, it has been a wide crazy ride - friends made, friends lost, quitters stay, quitters go. I believe in paying it forward and I have done that in the past. On Wednesday - I will hit 1,200 days. I will donate $5 for every post in february 2011 that mentions FFF - February Felllowship of the Free. I will do it up to $1,200.
In awe, my friend.
You rock. 'Nuff said.
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Hello Quitters,
I am changing jobs so my phone number will be changing. The number you have for me is no longer good. It now belongs to the new maintenance guy at AFI. I will send out my new number soon.
Thanks
NICK
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I've made the commitment to throw the can away. From what I've heard this site is a great outlet for talking about the trials of quitting this nasty habit. Any advice will help...thank you.
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I've made the commitment to throw the can away. From what I've heard this site is a great outlet for talking about the trials of quitting this nasty habit. Any advice will help...thank you.
You will not regret it. Go post your intro. Read all you can...dive into the hall of fame speeches, and post roll with the group you would be with (I think it would be the May of 2013). There is no better time then now. Do it.
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I've made the commitment to throw the can away. From what I've heard this site is a great outlet for talking about the trials of quitting this nasty habit. Any advice will help...thank you.
You will not regret it. Go post your intro. Read all you can...dive into the hall of fame speeches, and post roll with the group you would be with (I think it would be the May of 2013). There is no better time then now. Do it.
Yes Bradleyguy you are in May 14 quit group. I have posted your name to roll call as a day 1.
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Well in 3 days I hit 1,200 days. wow, it has been a wide crazy ride - friends made, friends lost, quitters stay, quitters go. I believe in paying it forward and I have done that in the past. On Wednesday - I will hit 1,200 days. I will donate $5 for every post in february 2011 that mentions FFF - February Felllowship of the Free. I will do it up to $1,200.
In awe, my friend.
You rock. 'Nuff said.
X 2
Bump
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Well in 3 days I hit 1,200 days. wow, it has been a wide crazy ride - friends made, friends lost, quitters stay, quitters go. I believe in paying it forward and I have done that in the past. On Wednesday - I will hit 1,200 days. I will donate $5 for every post in february 2011 that mentions FFF - February Felllowship of the Free. I will do it up to $1,200.
In awe, my friend.
You rock. 'Nuff said.
X 2
Bump
Wow.....congrats and thanks for a great example to follow
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Well in 3 days I hit 1,200 days. wow, it has been a wide crazy ride - friends made, friends lost, quitters stay, quitters go. I believe in paying it forward and I have done that in the past. On Wednesday - I will hit 1,200 days. I will donate $5 for every post in february 2011 that mentions FFF - February Felllowship of the Free. I will do it up to $1,200.
In awe, my friend.
You rock. 'Nuff said.
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Wow.....congrats and thanks for a great example to follow
Did anyone notice that Hater is in the same group as me? :wub:
It's an honor to quit with you, bro, and thanks for your generosity!
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Everyone lets bump up the number and say f u to the tobacca industry.
index.php?showtopic=262 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=262)
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Just found this forum and am really excited for years assistance. I dip Copenhagen straight long cut and I have for a long time. I have used chantix twice and it worked for awhile but the. The cravings returned. I actually made it a little over a month the last time. But the cravings are back and I am dipping a little here and there now.
Does anyone know of any of these fake dips that actually taste like any of the Copenhagen dips? Regular or straight? I would greatly appreciate any feedback. I have tried the fake stuff in the past and it was god awful.
Thanks.
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Just found this forum and am really excited for years assistance. I dip Copenhagen straight long cut and I have for a long time. I have used chantix twice and it worked for awhile but the. The cravings returned. I actually made it a little over a month the last time. But the cravings are back and I am dipping a little here and there now.
Does anyone know of any of these fake dips that actually taste like any of the Copenhagen dips? Regular or straight? I would greatly appreciate any feedback. I have tried the fake stuff in the past and it was god awful.
Thanks.
You did better than some! I am on the end of day 2. Day 3 starts in 34min. I suggest reading the reviews on the KTC site. They are pretty good. I just ordered a few cans of the "Hooch" to help my lip have something to do. If you make up your mind to do it this time, you can! You have to keep up your motivation level everyday and pretty much kick your own ass not to run down to the store to grab just "one lil can". About 20 min ago, I just sat through a 45 min screaming session from a 3 month old with a heart condition being held by a woman who is being visited by her "aunt". Holy Cow, i was about to pull my hair out, jump out of my skin and go absolutely ballistic!!
Point being, the whole time, I kept thinking of the members here who have really lifted me up and encouraged me and how disappointed they would be if I "tripped". It really holds you accountable man. I am sorry for rambling. Wanted to offer my suggestions on "fake dip" and then just got caught up :D As always, when you get ready to quit, you won't regret it! PM me if I can help at all
Thanks Mogul, lipizzanner, slug.go and shmuffinman! Your encouragement saved me $2.84 and a bottom lip.
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Just came back to visit on my one year anniversary of quitting. So, all you new guys can do it. You dont need it for work, or for hunting, or for working on projects around the house. Quit today.
Bob
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Just came back to visit on my one year anniversary of quitting. So, all you new guys can do it. You dont need it for work, or for hunting, or for working on projects around the house. Quit today.
Bob
Congrats Bob! Thanks for popping in. I'm curious to know your plan to make it to 366 and 367. The only guarantee I've ever known was a daily promise which is my reason for asking. That's not to say there aren't different ways, I just don't know 'em, Bob. We've lost a bunch a folks to the craves and caves of our addiction over the past year. It seems like you could have made a difference, maybe helped someone's quit. Do you have any phone numbers? Do you need any? Do you text? Have you ever sent a PM to an fng? When life happens, what's your plan? Are you on the facebook? I've noticed that when folks just visit on occasion, they don't seem to have a very good track record. At a minimum, maybe just post roll for yourself? The odds seem to be proportional to your level of accountability and dedication.
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Just came back to visit on my one year anniversary of quitting. So, all you new guys can do it. You dont need it for work, or for hunting, or for working on projects around the house. Quit today.
Bob
Congrats Bob! Thanks for popping in. I'm curious to know your plan to make it to 366 and 367. The only guarantee I've ever known was a daily promise which is my reason for asking. That's not to say there aren't different ways, I just don't know 'em, Bob. We've lost a bunch a folks to the craves and caves of our addiction over the past year. It seems like you could have made a difference, maybe helped someone's quit. Do you have any phone numbers? Do you need any? Do you text? Have you ever sent a PM to an fng? When life happens, what's your plan? Are you on the facebook? I've noticed that when folks just visit on occasion, they don't seem to have a very good track record. At a minimum, maybe just post roll for yourself? The odds seem to be proportional to your level of accountability and dedication.
Congrats Bob, 1+ will get me there soon enough.
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I have a question for as many people that will answer it.
Is paranoia a normal symptom of quitting?
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I have a question for as many people that will answer it.
Is paranoia a normal symptom of quitting?
I don't think there is any "normal thing" about quitting, other than it sucked. I assume by paranoia you mean you fear going back to dipping. If that's it, I'd say we all at first fear that, but now most fear posting a day 1 again and getting your ass handed to you. Lol
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Had a dream last night I caved and packed a lip. Woke up this morning thankful it wasn't real.
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I have a question for as many people that will answer it.
Is paranoia a normal symptom of quitting?
I don't think there is any "normal thing" about quitting, other than it sucked. I assume by paranoia you mean you fear going back to dipping. If that's it, I'd say we all at first fear that, but now most fear posting a day 1 again and getting your ass handed to you. Lol
I think paranoia and apprehension were squashed a bit by the nicotine. With a clean system, what you're probably feeling is system wide test of your emotions from time to time until 100% healed. The brain is one complex organ. In my case it's also small.
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I have a question for as many people that will answer it.
Is paranoia a normal symptom of quitting?
I don't think there is any "normal thing" about quitting, other than it sucked. I assume by paranoia you mean you fear going back to dipping. If that's it, I'd say we all at first fear that, but now most fear posting a day 1 again and getting your ass handed to you. Lol
I think paranoia and apprehension were squashed a bit by the nicotine. With a clean system, what you're probably feeling is system wide test of your emotions from time to time until 100% healed. The brain is one complex organ. In my case it's also small.
Sluggo should be feeling better faster than us then. Lucky bastard! 'crackup'
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I have a question for as many people that will answer it.
Is paranoia a normal symptom of quitting?
I don't think there is any "normal thing" about quitting, other than it sucked. I assume by paranoia you mean you fear going back to dipping. If that's it, I'd say we all at first fear that, but now most fear posting a day 1 again and getting your ass handed to you. Lol
I think paranoia and apprehension were squashed a bit by the nicotine. With a clean system, what you're probably feeling is system wide test of your emotions from time to time until 100% healed. The brain is one complex organ. In my case it's also small.
Sluggo should be feeling better faster than us then. Lucky bastard! 'crackup'
I don't know about you HG but for me one of the reasons I became addicted and remained addicted for so long was a means of avoiding a bunch of mental health issues. I know I'm not alone, check out the anxiety and depression discussion in the wildcard section. Some of this has healed its self and others I've worked threw with professional help and some medication. I want to stress one important thing about any mental health issue; NEVER be ashamed or afraid to seek professional help. I waited over 30 years to admit I couldn't control my thoughts, it wasn't till I came very close to checking myself out of this life that I sought help. For me I've been working on healing my brain for and see progress. I send my condolences to Slug.go.
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Has anyone else noticed that the dumbest shit can happen and you retort (in your mind) with WELL I HAVE TO HAVE A DIP! Ya know it can be things like you fight with your wife because of your newly formed hostility toward the world, and you say it. But I have noticed it with others and with myself with smaller things. BANG, damn I slammed my hand in the door, well i have to have a dip!!!... DAMN I stubbed my toe, THATS IT I HAVE TO HAVE A DIP!!!!.
Yes I do realize that this sounds retarded and NO I am not considering caving. Just wanted to see if anyone else has noticed this, kinda funny when you look at it from a third party point of view.
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Has anyone else noticed that the dumbest shit can happen and you retort (in your mind) with WELL I HAVE TO HAVE A DIP! Ya know it can be things like you fight with your wife because of your newly formed hostility toward the world, and you say it. But I have noticed it with others and with myself with smaller things. BANG, damn I slammed my hand in the door, well i have to have a dip!!!... DAMN I stubbed my toe, THATS IT I HAVE TO HAVE A DIP!!!!.
Yes I do realize that this sounds retarded and NO I am not considering caving. Just wanted to see if anyone else has noticed this, kinda funny when you look at it from a third party point of view.
I'm with you. Find my HOF speech... This shit gets you coming and going. Good days, bad days, sunny days, rainy days, fine days, dark days, any fuckin day!!! What I learned was that I don't dip anymore so all the triggers(urges from the nic bitch) are gonna have to wait in line til they go away!!! ;)
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I used to tell my fiancé I have "stomach" issues to go to the bathroom and dip. I would sit in there for a good half hour making noises so she thinks I'm sick. I just realized those habits we form stick around I'm in here now so I could go on KTC without her asking any questions. Anyone else notice any habits they picked up cause of dip stickin around?
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Jackwagins are hitting half comma's right now. We sure have missed all of our supporters here recently. Come show the Wagins some love over in January '13 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=7170)
We like new support as well!
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I have a question for as many people that will answer it.
Is paranoia a normal symptom of quitting?
I don't think there is any "normal thing" about quitting, other than it sucked. I assume by paranoia you mean you fear going back to dipping. If that's it, I'd say we all at first fear that, but now most fear posting a day 1 again and getting your ass handed to you. Lol
I think paranoia and apprehension were squashed a bit by the nicotine. With a clean system, what you're probably feeling is system wide test of your emotions from time to time until 100% healed. The brain is one complex organ. In my case it's also small.
Sluggo should be feeling better faster than us then. Lucky bastard! 'crackup'
I don't know about you HG but for me one of the reasons I became addicted and remained addicted for so long was a means of avoiding a bunch of mental health issues. I know I'm not alone, check out the anxiety and depression discussion in the wildcard section. Some of this has healed its self and others I've worked threw with professional help and some medication. I want to stress one important thing about any mental health issue; NEVER be ashamed or afraid to seek professional help. I waited over 30 years to admit I couldn't control my thoughts, it wasn't till I came very close to checking myself out of this life that I sought help. For me I've been working on healing my brain for and see progress. I send my condolences to Slug.go.
Piggy backing on what WT said. When I quit I got high anxiety, high anxiety tends to really heighten your senses, especially in a negative way.
For instance before I quit if I got a weird pain or funny feeling somewhere on my body I didn't think twice about it and brushed it off as no big deal, like most people.
After I quit and experienced anxiety issues, the slightest twitch or tingle got me thinking the worst. Heck, I couldn't watch any crime shows or the local news as negative or violent stories got me scared. I even once ate chicken noodle soup for 2 weeks straight, because I somehow convinced myself that it was the only food that made me feel normal.
So to answer your question, yes, at least in my case paranoia was a part of quitting. However it was anxiety that was triggering it. I found all this out by going to a counselor.
Like WT said, don't be afraid or too ashamed to go and talk to a professional if this keeps up. Thats their job. Also like WT said, hop on over to the anxiety and depression forum in the wildcard section. I think you will find some guys who can relate.
Quit on...
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I used to tell my fiancé I have "stomach" issues to go to the bathroom and dip. I would sit in there for a good half hour making noises so she thinks I'm sick. I just realized those habits we form stick around I'm in here now so I could go on KTC without her asking any questions. Anyone else notice any habits they picked up cause of dip stickin around?
I can tell you with 100% certainty that there is not one habit that you or I picked up that someone here has not experienced. Not one.
We were all assholes. You know how many times I got out of the shower only to notice black flakes on my feet because I HAD to dip in the shower? Too fucking many to count!!! Hell, I read today someone saying they don't miss spitting on their dick when they were taking a shit. So that right there tells me you're not alone.
Fuck it though. The past is the past. No use dwelling on it. If anything use it as motivation to remain quit. You see the error if your ways, now do something about it.
Quit on...
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I used to tell my fiancé I have "stomach" issues to go to the bathroom and dip. I would sit in there for a good half hour making noises so she thinks I'm sick. I just realized those habits we form stick around I'm in here now so I could go on KTC without her asking any questions. Anyone else notice any habits they picked up cause of dip stickin around?
I can tell you with 100% certainty that there is not one habit that you or I picked up that someone here has not experienced. Not one.
We were all assholes. You know how many times I got out of the shower only to notice black flakes on my feet because I HAD to dip in the shower? Too fucking many to count!!! Hell, I read today someone saying they don't miss spitting on their dick when they were taking a shit. So that right there tells me you're not alone.
Fuck it though. The past is the past. No use dwelling on it. If anything use it as motivation to remain quit. You see the error if your ways, now do something about it.
Quit on...
The weekend has been hectic but good. Not glad its over. Anyway, reading this post I could share with the "Am I the only weird person that does this or that". When I first decided that I needed to cease the can, I read the 100 reasons to quit and it was a Eureaka moment. I've finally let my wife in after the first week that I am done dipping and have a great group of people to make me feel "unweird" about quitting! I let her read the 100 reasons and she just was blown away.
I guess until you really step back and haven't dipped in a while, acceptable habits then can be easily looked upon as upsetting now. I realize how much BS my wife would put up with when she just swept the kitchen and mysteriously granules appeared. She worked hard to keep the house clean for US and in my selfishness, just made an F'n mess without a second thought.
Signs of progression occurred also when I went with my buddy to town today. It has been a solid week of no dipping and when I got in his truck, the spit can smell and the "I dip in my truck all the time" smell (you all know it) just hit me and I was queazy as hell. I have never been happier to be queasy. It also made me realize why my wife never liked me dipping in her Jeep!
Sorry for the ramble, this post just kinda brought this stuff into my head!
Happy quitting! Carry On
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I have a question for as many people that will answer it.
Is paranoia a normal symptom of quitting?
I don't think there is any "normal thing" about quitting, other than it sucked. I assume by paranoia you mean you fear going back to dipping. If that's it, I'd say we all at first fear that, but now most fear posting a day 1 again and getting your ass handed to you. Lol
I think paranoia and apprehension were squashed a bit by the nicotine. With a clean system, what you're probably feeling is system wide test of your emotions from time to time until 100% healed. The brain is one complex organ. In my case it's also small.
Sluggo should be feeling better faster than us then. Lucky bastard! 'crackup'
I don't know about you HG but for me one of the reasons I became addicted and remained addicted for so long was a means of avoiding a bunch of mental health issues. I know I'm not alone, check out the anxiety and depression discussion in the wildcard section. Some of this has healed its self and others I've worked threw with professional help and some medication. I want to stress one important thing about any mental health issue; NEVER be ashamed or afraid to seek professional help. I waited over 30 years to admit I couldn't control my thoughts, it wasn't till I came very close to checking myself out of this life that I sought help. For me I've been working on healing my brain for and see progress. I send my condolences to Slug.go.
Piggy backing on what WT said. When I quit I got high anxiety, high anxiety tends to really heighten your senses, especially in a negative way.
For instance before I quit if I got a weird pain or funny feeling somewhere on my body I didn't think twice about it and brushed it off as no big deal, like most people.
After I quit and experienced anxiety issues, the slightest twitch or tingle got me thinking the worst. Heck, I couldn't watch any crime shows or the local news as negative or violent stories got me scared. I even once ate chicken noodle soup for 2 weeks straight, because I somehow convinced myself that it was the only food that made me feel normal.
So to answer your question, yes, at least in my case paranoia was a part of quitting. However it was anxiety that was triggering it. I found all this out by going to a counselor.
Like WT said, don't be afraid or too ashamed to go and talk to a professional if this keeps up. Thats their job. Also like WT said, hop on over to the anxiety and depression forum in the wildcard section. I think you will find some guys who can relate.
Quit on...
I used to read a lot of Stephen King crap.. and I swear all I can think about anymore is one of his short stories called "Quitters Inc." some days I think the KTC is run by the mob like in the story. If you have never read the story, it is a must read if your a quitter... they have mad it into a movie as well, I think the movie entailed a lot of his short stories... It was called "Night Shift"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F94lCf67218 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F94lCf67218)
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I used to tell my fiancé I have "stomach" issues to go to the bathroom and dip. I would sit in there for a good half hour making noises so she thinks I'm sick. I just realized those habits we form stick around I'm in here now so I could go on KTC without her asking any questions. Anyone else notice any habits they picked up cause of dip stickin around?
Wow. I read this and thought "Did I post this?" I couldn't even begin to estimate how many times I did this before I quit. I left the water running for background noise. I would cough to cover the sound of the lid closing. I would even put my can in my sock under my jeans and casually mention I was "having stomach issues" ahead of time, to make it look even less suspicious! Amazing the lies we will come up with to use! Its a relief to know I am not the only person who did something like this in order to have a dip. I guess the posts about us all being in the same boat are true!
Even though the habit hasnt changed for you, glad to hear its for something productive like posting on the site. Stay quit!
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I used to tell my fiancé I have "stomach" issues to go to the bathroom and dip. I would sit in there for a good half hour making noises so she thinks I'm sick. I just realized those habits we form stick around I'm in here now so I could go on KTC without her asking any questions. Anyone else notice any habits they picked up cause of dip stickin around?
Wow. I read this and thought "Did I post this?" I couldn't even begin to estimate how many times I did this before I quit. I left the water running for background noise. I would cough to cover the sound of the lid closing. I would even put my can in my sock under my jeans and casually mention I was "having stomach issues" ahead of time, to make it look even less suspicious! Amazing the lies we will come up with to use! Its a relief to know I am not the only person who did something like this in order to have a dip. I guess the posts about us all being in the same boat are true!
Even though the habit hasnt changed for you, glad to hear its for something productive like posting on the site. Stay quit!
Welcome home brothers!
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I used to tell my fiancé I have "stomach" issues to go to the bathroom and dip. I would sit in there for a good half hour making noises so she thinks I'm sick. I just realized those habits we form stick around I'm in here now so I could go on KTC without her asking any questions. Anyone else notice any habits they picked up cause of dip stickin around?
Wow. I read this and thought "Did I post this?" I couldn't even begin to estimate how many times I did this before I quit. I left the water running for background noise. I would cough to cover the sound of the lid closing. I would even put my can in my sock under my jeans and casually mention I was "having stomach issues" ahead of time, to make it look even less suspicious! Amazing the lies we will come up with to use! Its a relief to know I am not the only person who did something like this in order to have a dip. I guess the posts about us all being in the same boat are true!
Even though the habit hasnt changed for you, glad to hear its for something productive like posting on the site. Stay quit!
Welcome home brothers!
Nolaq still makes funny noises in the bathroom though!
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Ok, I've had it! It's time for a major vent.
I'm sick and tired of addicts that post intros saying how they are ready to quit but don't post roll! It's not that hard to post roll, even if you screw up someone will fix it. No one will bitch at you for screwing up roll but I like so many others will be down your throat for not posting roll! There is a reason this forum works, now if your serious about quitting, POST ROLL!
This isn't any withdrawal rage, I'm past that this is just reality!
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Ok, I've had it! It's time for a major vent.
I'm sick and tired of addicts that post intros saying how they are ready to quit but don't post roll! It's not that hard to post roll, even if you screw up someone will fix it. No one will bitch at you for screwing up roll but I like so many others will be down your throat for not posting roll! There is a reason this forum works, now if your serious about quitting, POST ROLL!
This isn't any withdrawal rage, I'm past that this is just reality!
Roll call works.
Period.
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YEEEEEAH THATS RIGHT YOU KNOW WHAT DAY IT IS!!!!!!!!
BIG SAVINGS WEDNESDAY !!!!
Everyone follow the link, it is pretty damn neat to see how much we have saved. Every little bit counts, there is ABSOLUTELY NO SHAME IN QUITTING, be proud, BE LOUD, and follow this link and post up.
index.php?showtopic=262st=0 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=262&st=0)
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Hey all. Just wondering if someone can explain the "bump" thing to me? I see it in a number of posts. New to the site and want to make sure I know what I'm doing. Thanks!
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Hey all. Just wondering if someone can explain the "bump" thing to me? I see it in a number of posts. New to the site and want to make sure I know what I'm doing. Thanks!
If two people are posting roll at the same time the first to click "submit" may be cut off (bumped off) the 2nd quitter's post. (they both "quoted" the top roll post at the same time)
After you post roll scroll down to see if you "bumped" the guy that posted right before you. If you did, quickly, EDIT your own post and add him back in. It's the right thing to do - like a courtesy flush.
'flush'
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Hey all. Just wondering if someone can explain the "bump" thing to me? I see it in a number of posts. New to the site and want to make sure I know what I'm doing. Thanks!
If two people are posting roll at the same time the first to click "submit" may be cut off (bumped off) the 2nd quitter's post. (they both "quoted" the top roll post at the same time)
After you post roll scroll down to see if you "bumped" the guy that posted right before you. If you did, quickly, EDIT your own post and add him back in. It's the right thing to do - like a courtesy flush.
'flush'
Haha . I like the example! Good to know. I am thinking this happened to me a few times already. Appreciate the help.
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Ok, I've had it! It's time for a major vent.Â
I'm sick and tired of addicts that post intros saying how they are ready to quit but don't post roll! It's not that hard to post roll, even if you screw up someone will fix it. No one will bitch at you for screwing up roll but I like so many others will be down your throat for not posting roll! There is a reason this forum works, now if your serious about quitting, POST ROLL!
This isn't any withdrawal rage, I'm past that this is just reality!
Roll call works.
Period.
to the top...
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Ok, I've had it! It's time for a major vent.Â
I'm sick and tired of addicts that post intros saying how they are ready to quit but don't post roll! It's not that hard to post roll, even if you screw up someone will fix it. No one will bitch at you for screwing up roll but I like so many others will be down your throat for not posting roll! There is a reason this forum works, now if your serious about quitting, POST ROLL!
This isn't any withdrawal rage, I'm past that this is just reality!
Roll call works.
Period.
to the top...
Even the mildly mentally challenged can post roll. I make it everyday so far.. 'no'
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Ok, I've had it! It's time for a major vent.Â
I'm sick and tired of addicts that post intros saying how they are ready to quit but don't post roll! It's not that hard to post roll, even if you screw up someone will fix it. No one will bitch at you for screwing up roll but I like so many others will be down your throat for not posting roll! There is a reason this forum works, now if your serious about quitting, POST ROLL!
This isn't any withdrawal rage, I'm past that this is just reality!
Roll call works.
Period.
to the top...
Even the mildly mentally challenged can post roll. I make it everyday so far.. 'no'
Evun tha cerouisily mindtally chalunged can powst role. I do it for 89 strate daze. Amen WT!
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Reminder why we quit. I was playing indoor soccer to stay in shape during the cold winter and got a busted lip in a tackle. The scrape/cut is as big as your thumb nail on the inside of front lip and hurts like hell, when talking, eating, drinking coffee and sleeping. It is slowly healing but I bet mouth cancer would hurt a lot more and not go away. A good reminder to me of staying quit.
Stay strong brothers!
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Reminder why we quit. I was playing indoor soccer to stay in shape during the cold winter and got a busted lip in a tackle. The scrape/cut is as big as your thumb nail on the inside of front lip and hurts like hell, when talking, eating, drinking coffee and sleeping. It is slowly healing but I bet mouth cancer would hurt a lot more and not go away. A good reminder to me of staying quit.
Stay strong brothers!
If you were still dipping I bet you would still put that crap in your mouth cut lip or not. A good reason to be quit.
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Reminder why we quit. I was playing indoor soccer to stay in shape during the cold winter and got a busted lip in a tackle. The scrape/cut is as big as your thumb nail on the inside of front lip and hurts like hell, when talking, eating, drinking coffee and sleeping. It is slowly healing but I bet mouth cancer would hurt a lot more and not go away. A good reminder to me of staying quit.
Stay strong brothers!
If you were still dipping I bet you would still put that crap in your mouth cut lip or not. A good reason to be quit.
You can tackle in soccer? That might make it worth watching. Just kidding, I'm sure it's still boring, but nice observation.
'soscer'
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New Blog Post: And Then There Were FourÂ… (Hall Of Fame Coins)
http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/02/and- ... ame-coins/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/02/and-then-there-were-four-hall-of-fame-coins/)
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Ok, I've had it! It's time for a major vent.Â
I'm sick and tired of addicts that post intros saying how they are ready to quit but don't post roll! It's not that hard to post roll, even if you screw up someone will fix it. No one will bitch at you for screwing up roll but I like so many others will be down your throat for not posting roll! There is a reason this forum works, now if your serious about quitting, POST ROLL!
This isn't any withdrawal rage, I'm past that this is just reality!
Roll call works.
Period.
to the top...
Even the mildly mentally challenged can post roll. I make it everyday so far.. 'no'
Evun tha cerouisily mindtally chalunged can powst role. I do it for 89 strate daze. Amen WT!
To the top, again. This should be perma-fixed to the top.
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Dog dies after biting e cig refill (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/dog-dies-after-coming-into-contact-with-ecigarette-9139535.html)
Nicotine is a helluva drug.
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Dog dies after biting e cig refill (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/dog-dies-after-coming-into-contact-with-ecigarette-9139535.html)
Nicotine is a helluva drug.
Children poisoned by ecigs (http://www.abc15.com/news/local-news/investigations/poison-control-center-sees-number-of-children-poisoned-by-e-cigarettes-skyrocket)
Bad shit man
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Hey everybody, I was wondering if anyone can relate to me on something...
Everytime i walk past a cigarette smoker I get really uncomfortable. It just reminds me of how bad nicotine is and how hard it is to quit. Is there any way I would absorb any nicotine from second hand smoke? It scares me to death to think about it...
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Hey everybody, I was wondering if anyone can relate to me on something...
Everytime i walk past a cigarette smoker I get really uncomfortable. It just reminds me of how bad nicotine is and how hard it is to quit. Is there any way I would absorb any nicotine from second hand smoke? It scares me to death to think about it...
Don't overthink this quitting thing. Don't activitely participate in putting Nic into your system. We all must suffer fools. There is nothing we can do about it. I flew from Chicago to Orlando today with a crying kid behind me, and a bumpkin in a cheesy cow-boy hat spitting into a 16 oz plastic up from the airport bar next to me. Did I get upset, uncomfortable, or crave? No. I'm past that, and you will be to if you keep focus on today and worry about tomorrow when it comes. You got this!
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I'm feeling a feeling I recognize from my 280 to 350 quit period.
Is there another, fog, hurt, funk or some dark feelings people have in the 700's?
Not sure if I am over playing it but I feel like I am in danger. Not for nicotine, I made my promise but emotionally. I feel shity in the head. I went after my son for being lazy and after, I realized I was mad because I saw me years ago. He deserved being told to get going but I think I handled my approach poorly.
Now I am thinking that I used him to yell at me. Sounds weird but what bothered me is that he....is me. Now since venting on him, I feel shity.
Anyone have thoughts on this?
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I'm feeling a feeling I recognize from my 280 to 350 quit period.
Is there another, fog, hurt, funk or some dark feelings people have in the 700's?
Not sure if I am over playing it but I feel like I am in danger. Not for nicotine, I made my promise but emotionally. I feel shity in the head. I went after my son for being lazy and after, I realized I was mad because I saw me years ago. He deserved being told to get going but I think I handled my approach poorly.
Now I am thinking that I used him to yell at me. Sounds weird but what bothered me is that he....is me. Now since venting on him, I feel shity.
Anyone have thoughts on this?
Yup, had a funky period right around two years and another one right before comma time.
Was he being Lazy? Is he slacking on things he shouldn't be? Does he need a little push?
Sometimes it was easiest to see the same faults in my kids as ones I had growing up. And yes I did get on to them so they would learn to manage those faults and overcome them easier than I did.
Being a parent is not always being their best friend.
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I'm feeling a feeling I recognize from my 280 to 350 quit period.Â
Is there another, fog, hurt, funk or some dark feelings people have in the 700's?Â
Not sure if I am over playing it but I feel like I am in danger. Not for nicotine, I made my promise but emotionally. I feel shity in the head. I went after my son for being lazy and after, I realized I was mad because I saw me years ago. He deserved being told to get going but I think I handled my approach poorly.Â
Now I am thinking that I used him to yell at me. Sounds weird but what bothered me is that he....is me. Now since venting on him, I feel shity. Â
Anyone have thoughts on this?
Yup, had a funky period right around two years and another one right before comma time.
Was he being Lazy? Is he slacking on things he shouldn't be? Does he need a little push?
Sometimes it was easiest to see the same faults in my kids as ones I had growing up. And yes I did get on to them so they would learn to manage those faults and overcome them easier than I did.
Being a parent is not always being their best friend.
I am a little over 48 hrs into a quit. This is rough as h
ell
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I'm feeling a feeling I recognize from my 280 to 350 quit period.Â
Is there another, fog, hurt, funk or some dark feelings people have in the 700's?Â
Not sure if I am over playing it but I feel like I am in danger. Not for nicotine, I made my promise but emotionally. I feel shity in the head. I went after my son for being lazy and after, I realized I was mad because I saw me years ago. He deserved being told to get going but I think I handled my approach poorly.Â
Now I am thinking that I used him to yell at me. Sounds weird but what bothered me is that he....is me.  Now since venting on him, I feel shity. Â
Anyone have thoughts on this?
Yup, had a funky period right around two years and another one right before comma time.
Was he being Lazy? Is he slacking on things he shouldn't be? Does he need a little push?
Sometimes it was easiest to see the same faults in my kids as ones I had growing up. And yes I did get on to them so they would learn to manage those faults and overcome them easier than I did.
Being a parent is not always being their best friend.
I am a little over 48 hrs into a quit. This is rough as h
ell
Get into Live Chat tonight.
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I'm feeling a feeling I recognize from my 280 to 350 quit period.Â
Is there another, fog, hurt, funk or some dark feelings people have in the 700's?Â
Not sure if I am over playing it but I feel like I am in danger. Not for nicotine, I made my promise but emotionally. I feel shity in the head. I went after my son for being lazy and after, I realized I was mad because I saw me years ago. He deserved being told to get going but I think I handled my approach poorly.Â
Now I am thinking that I used him to yell at me. Sounds weird but what bothered me is that he....is me.  Now since venting on him, I feel shity. Â
Anyone have thoughts on this?
Yup, had a funky period right around two years and another one right before comma time.
Was he being Lazy? Is he slacking on things he shouldn't be? Does he need a little push?
Sometimes it was easiest to see the same faults in my kids as ones I had growing up. And yes I did get on to them so they would learn to manage those faults and overcome them easier than I did.
Being a parent is not always being their best friend.
I am a little over 48 hrs into a quit. This is rough as h
ell
Get into Live Chat tonight.
shodge,
Click Me. (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=7140) That will show you how this site works, why it works, and why you need it.
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Hey guys this is an unrelated topic, and I apologize if it is misplaced on the forum, but I had a question about the tobacco-free chew that is listed on the website as a smokeless alternative. I've heard a lot of good things about a couple of the brands like Smokey mountain and Hooch, but I'm unsure where I could get them. The site gives some places that sell, but I live in Kentucky and am nowhere close to any of the listed stores. Does anybody have any ideas as to where I could try to pick up a can of this stuff? I tried a few places here locally and they all look at me like I'm nuts when I ask for tobacco-free chew.
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Hey guys this is an unrelated topic, and I apologize if it is misplaced on the forum, but I had a question about the tobacco-free chew that is listed on the website as a smokeless alternative. I've heard a lot of good things about a couple of the brands like Smokey mountain and Hooch, but I'm unsure where I could get them. The site gives some places that sell, but I live in Kentucky and am nowhere close to any of the listed stores. Does anybody have any ideas as to where I could try to pick up a can of this stuff? I tried a few places here locally and they all look at me like I'm nuts when I ask for tobacco-free chew.
Try Walmart for smokey Mountian.
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Hey guys this is an unrelated topic, and I apologize if it is misplaced on the forum, but I had a question about the tobacco-free chew that is listed on the website as a smokeless alternative. I've heard a lot of good things about a couple of the brands like Smokey mountain and Hooch, but I'm unsure where I could get them. The site gives some places that sell, but I live in Kentucky and am nowhere close to any of the listed stores. Does anybody have any ideas as to where I could try to pick up a can of this stuff? I tried a few places here locally and they all look at me like I'm nuts when I ask for tobacco-free chew.
Try Walmart for smokey Mountian.
Click HERE (http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/smokeless-alternatives/) for a list of reviews done by Chewie. You may even find a coupon. There also is a link to where you can buy them.
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Hey guys this is an unrelated topic, and I apologize if it is misplaced on the forum, but I had a question about the tobacco-free chew that is listed on the website as a smokeless alternative. I've heard a lot of good things about a couple of the brands like Smokey mountain and Hooch, but I'm unsure where I could get them. The site gives some places that sell, but I live in Kentucky and am nowhere close to any of the listed stores. Does anybody have any ideas as to where I could try to pick up a can of this stuff? I tried a few places here locally and they all look at me like I'm nuts when I ask for tobacco-free chew.
Try Walmart for smokey Mountian.
Click HERE (http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/smokeless-alternatives/) for a list of reviews done by Chewie. You may even find a coupon. There also is a link to where you can buy them.
Evil usually has a roll of jakes mint in his anus. Ask him, he'll send you some
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Thanks for the ideas on the tobacco-free chew fellas. I have another question for you guys. I will post roll for day 3 tmrw morning, I've heard this can be one of the most difficult days. Tonight has been the worst of my quit so far. Although nothing on this earth could make me relapse, I am just a little nervous about the next couple of days. My question: Which points during your quit were the hardest? And when did you start to see the light, or in other words, when did "the fog" lift? Thanks for all your help!
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Thanks for the ideas on the tobacco-free chew fellas. I have another question for you guys. I will post roll for day 3 tmrw morning, I've heard this can be one of the most difficult days. Tonight has been the worst of my quit so far. Although nothing on this earth could make me relapse, I am just a little nervous about the next couple of days. My question: Which points during your quit were the hardest? And when did you start to see the light, or in other words, when did "the fog" lift? Thanks for all your help!
Everyone's different The Truth. It felt like forever to me but was about a week in the funk. For me, posting roll, reading others going thru the same as me and others that had been there was the most help. You can't kick it alone, that's where roll comes in and I was/am scared some of my buds in My Feb class would literally whoop my ass if I caved. Worked for me.
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Thanks for the ideas on the tobacco-free chew fellas. I have another question for you guys. I will post roll for day 3 tmrw morning, I've heard this can be one of the most difficult days. Tonight has been the worst of my quit so far. Although nothing on this earth could make me relapse, I am just a little nervous about the next couple of days. My question: Which points during your quit were the hardest? And when did you start to see the light, or in other words, when did "the fog" lift? Thanks for all your help!
Everyone's different The Truth. It felt like forever to me but was about a week in the funk. For me, posting roll, reading others going thru the same as me and others that had been there was the most help. You can't kick it alone, that's where roll comes in and I was/am scared some of my buds in My Feb class would literally whoop my ass if I caved. Worked for me.
The hardest time is the first 3 days, after that it is all mental. Don't worry, stand up and embrace it, embrace the suck. It will make you stronger.
ODAAT truth, don't worry about what to come, think about today, think about kicking that current crave's ass.
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Ugh last night was the worst for me so far. Didn't sleep much at all, on a plus I dumped all the remaining dip I had laying around the house in the trash at work today! I got this shit one day at a time!
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Ugh last night was the worst for me so far. Didn't sleep much at all, on a plus I dumped all the remaining dip I had laying around the house in the trash at work today! I got this shit one day at a time!
Day 3 like a boss, why don't you PM your quit brother The Truth and exchange numbers. Keep each other accountable
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Ugh last night was the worst for me so far. Didn't sleep much at all, on a plus I dumped all the remaining dip I had laying around the house in the trash at work today! I got this shit one day at a time!
Day 3 like a boss, why don't you PM your quit brother The Truth and exchange numbers. Keep each other accountable
You keep kicking her to the curb. One day she won't have the strength to get up.
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Today is Day 21 for me - I'm feeling great, have had a few rough days along the way, but the one thing I've noticed these last two weeks is the fact I keep waking up 30-45 minutes before my alarm goes off in the morning. I'm not sure if I'm to the point yet where I'm back to my normal sleeping habits (used to be an early riser) but I feel like I'm getting there.
Anyone else experience this, and if so, for how long?
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Today is Day 21 for me - I'm feeling great, have had a few rough days along the way, but the one thing I've noticed these last two weeks is the fact I keep waking up 30-45 minutes before my alarm goes off in the morning. I'm not sure if I'm to the point yet where I'm back to my normal sleeping habits (used to be an early riser) but I feel like I'm getting there.
Anyone else experience this, and if so, for how long?
Your brain is rewiring. Neurons and gray matter and whatever else are getting used to the fact that they have to operate without a poisonous substance ruling the roost. More than likely, there's more than just your sleep habits that are different, you just haven't noticed them yet.
Will you go back to sleeping like you did pre-quit? Can't say for sure. You are both anatomically and mentally changed now. New combination of person and being.
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Day 3 seemed very bearable so I think to myself: I've got this whooped. Woke up today on day 4 feeling like the epitome of shit. I must be a huge dumb-ass to get complacent on day 3. Oh well, ODAAT I got this thing. One positive is that I don't feel like I have to shove sunflower seeds or jolly ranchers in my face as much as the first couple days, maybe I'm starting to cope with the whole no oral-fixation thing. Anyway, I appreciate all the support on here, you guys are the backbone of my quit no doubt about it.
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Day 3 seemed very bearable so I think to myself: I've got this whooped. Woke up today on day 4 feeling like the epitome of shit. I must be a huge dumb-ass to get complacent on day 3. Oh well, ODAAT I got this thing. One positive is that I don't feel like I have to shove sunflower seeds or jolly ranchers in my face as much as the first couple days, maybe I'm starting to cope with the whole no oral-fixation thing. Anyway, I appreciate all the support on here, you guys are the backbone of my quit no doubt about it.
ODAAT, no other way to go.
Sleep.
Wake up.
Post roll.
Take first breath.
Piss.
Shave.
Shower.
Live your life (work/play/etc.)
Dinner
Sleep.
Repeat.
Insert one free step into your life to remove the poison. It's free. Did I say it's free? There is no infomercial to buy a box at $19.99, but wait, we toss in another at the same cost.
It's free. Post roll. Use the tools afforded to you. Win. Each. Day.
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Day 3 seemed very bearable so I think to myself: I've got this whooped. Woke up today on day 4 feeling like the epitome of shit. I must be a huge dumb-ass to get complacent on day 3. Oh well, ODAAT I got this thing. One positive is that I don't feel like I have to shove sunflower seeds or jolly ranchers in my face as much as the first couple days, maybe I'm starting to cope with the whole no oral-fixation thing. Anyway, I appreciate all the support on here, you guys are the backbone of my quit no doubt about it.
ODAAT, no other way to go.
Sleep.
Wake up.
Post roll.
Take first breath.
Piss.
Shave.
Shower.
Live your life (work/play/etc.)
Dinner
Sleep.
Repeat.
Insert one free step into your life to remove the poison. It's free. Did I say it's free? There is no infomercial to buy a box at $19.99, but wait, we toss in another at the same cost.
It's free. Post roll. Use the tools afforded to you. Win. Each. Day.
You are not miraculously cured after 3 days. There is still alot of fighting left to do.
There will be ups and downs. Just make it through today, and tomorrow will be what it is supposed to be.
Hang in there. It will get better. Just takes time.
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Day 3 seemed very bearable so I think to myself: I've got this whooped. Woke up today on day 4 feeling like the epitome of shit. I must be a huge dumb-ass to get complacent on day 3. Oh well, ODAAT I got this thing. One positive is that I don't feel like I have to shove sunflower seeds or jolly ranchers in my face as much as the first couple days, maybe I'm starting to cope with the whole no oral-fixation thing. Anyway, I appreciate all the support on here, you guys are the backbone of my quit no doubt about it.
ODAAT, no other way to go.
Sleep.
Wake up.
Post roll.
Take first breath.
Piss.
Shave.
Shower.
Live your life (work/play/etc.)
Dinner
Sleep.
Repeat.
Insert one free step into your life to remove the poison. It's free. Did I say it's free? There is no infomercial to buy a box at $19.99, but wait, we toss in another at the same cost.
It's free. Post roll. Use the tools afforded to you. Win. Each. Day.
You are not miraculously cured after 3 days. There is still alot of fighting left to do.
There will be ups and downs. Just make it through today, and tomorrow will be what it is supposed to be.
Hang in there. It will get better. Just takes time.
Truth go start yourself a intro in that section and keep track of your journey there, it's kind of a journal to help you remember the shit you go through so you don't forget and cave.
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Day 3 seemed very bearable so I think to myself: I've got this whooped. Woke up today on day 4 feeling like the epitome of shit. I must be a huge dumb-ass to get complacent on day 3. Oh well, ODAAT I got this thing. One positive is that I don't feel like I have to shove sunflower seeds or jolly ranchers in my face as much as the first couple days, maybe I'm starting to cope with the whole no oral-fixation thing. Anyway, I appreciate all the support on here, you guys are the backbone of my quit no doubt about it.
ODAAT, no other way to go.
Sleep.
Wake up.
Post roll.
Take first breath.
Piss.
Shave.
Shower.
Live your life (work/play/etc.)
Dinner
Sleep.
Repeat.
Insert one free step into your life to remove the poison. It's free. Did I say it's free? There is no infomercial to buy a box at $19.99, but wait, we toss in another at the same cost.
It's free. Post roll. Use the tools afforded to you. Win. Each. Day.
You are not miraculously cured after 3 days. There is still alot of fighting left to do.
There will be ups and downs. Just make it through today, and tomorrow will be what it is supposed to be.
Hang in there. It will get better. Just takes time.
Truth go start yourself a intro in that section and keep track of your journey there, it's kind of a journal to help you remember the shit you go through so you don't forget and cave.
Truth, I think about it as a long climb out of a dark cave. The beginning is the steepest and then it flattens out in time. The good times get longer and the bad times get shorter and farther apart. You have to just keep going to find out whats up there in the light. Keep Quit!
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Day 3 seemed very bearable so I think to myself: I've got this whooped. Woke up today on day 4 feeling like the epitome of shit. I must be a huge dumb-ass to get complacent on day 3. Oh well, ODAAT I got this thing. One positive is that I don't feel like I have to shove sunflower seeds or jolly ranchers in my face as much as the first couple days, maybe I'm starting to cope with the whole no oral-fixation thing. Anyway, I appreciate all the support on here, you guys are the backbone of my quit no doubt about it.
ODAAT, no other way to go.
Sleep.
Wake up.
Post roll.
Take first breath.
Piss.
Shave.
Shower.
Live your life (work/play/etc.)
Dinner
Sleep.
Repeat.
Insert one free step into your life to remove the poison. It's free. Did I say it's free? There is no infomercial to buy a box at $19.99, but wait, we toss in another at the same cost.
It's free. Post roll. Use the tools afforded to you. Win. Each. Day.
You are not miraculously cured after 3 days. There is still alot of fighting left to do.
There will be ups and downs. Just make it through today, and tomorrow will be what it is supposed to be.
Hang in there. It will get better. Just takes time.
Truth go start yourself a intro in that section and keep track of your journey there, it's kind of a journal to help you remember the shit you go through so you don't forget and cave.
Truth, I think about it as a long climb out of a dark cave. The beginning is the steepest and then it flattens out in time. The good times get longer and the bad times get shorter and farther apart. You have to just keep going to find out whats up there in the light. Keep Quit!
The first few days can be one hell of a roller coaster. Climb in, buckle up and just hang on!
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Do orange people dip?
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Do black people dip?
Does a hobby horse have a wooden dick?
Ever see Warren Sapp after a football game? Or Austin Jackson of the Detroit tigers?
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Do black people dip?
Does a hobby horse have a wooden dick?
Ever see Warren Sapp after a football game? Or Austin Jackson of the Detroit tigers?
Lmao, do white people drink Malt Liquor? Damn bro, I was waiting for the punch line. Lol
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Do black people dip?
Does a hobby horse have a wooden dick?
Ever see Warren Sapp after a football game? Or Austin Jackson of the Detroit tigers?
Lmao, do white people drink Malt Liquor? Damn bro, I was waiting for the punch line. Lol
lol I would say the majority of dippers are young white males, but we have an active black former dipper named iphilister that is a bad ass quitter. Do all black people like fried chicken and watermelon........... _
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Do black people dip?
Does a hobby horse have a wooden dick?
Ever see Warren Sapp after a football game? Or Austin Jackson of the Detroit tigers?
Lmao, do white people drink Malt Liquor? Damn bro, I was waiting for the punch line. Lol
lol I would say the majority of dippers are young white males, but we have an active black former dipper named iphilister that is a bad ass quitter. Do all black people like fried chicken and watermelon........... _
For the record, I like Colt 45. True story.
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Do black people dip?
Does a hobby horse have a wooden dick?
Ever see Warren Sapp after a football game? Or Austin Jackson of the Detroit tigers?
Lmao, do white people drink Malt Liquor? Damn bro, I was waiting for the punch line. Lol
lol I would say the majority of dippers are young white males, but we have an active black former dipper named iphilister that is a bad ass quitter. Do all black people like fried chicken and watermelon........... _
For the record, I like Colt 45. True story.
Went to college with a black guy who dipped. Honestly, he's the only black guy I've ever known to dip.
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I'm feeling a feeling I recognize from my 280 to 350 quit period.Â
Is there another, fog, hurt, funk or some dark feelings people have in the 700's?Â
Not sure if I am over playing it but I feel like I am in danger. Not for nicotine, I made my promise but emotionally. I feel shity in the head. I went after my son for being lazy and after, I realized I was mad because I saw me years ago. He deserved being told to get going but I think I handled my approach poorly.Â
Now I am thinking that I used him to yell at me. Sounds weird but what bothered me is that he....is me.  Now since venting on him, I feel shity. Â
Anyone have thoughts on this?
Yup, had a funky period right around two years and another one right before comma time.
Was he being Lazy? Is he slacking on things he shouldn't be? Does he need a little push?
Sometimes it was easiest to see the same faults in my kids as ones I had growing up. And yes I did get on to them so they would learn to manage those faults and overcome them easier than I did.
Being a parent is not always being their best friend.
I am a little over 48 hrs into a quit. This is rough as h
ell
Get into Live Chat tonight.
shodge,
Click Me. (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=7140) That will show you how this site works, why it works, and why you need it.
yep, I needed to push him and everything I expressed was because I am a dad. However, I could have done it better.
The good thing about these moments later in the quit...It takes longer between the funks.
First hundred days, had about 3 lasting a couple weeks each.
Next hundred I had two probably about 5 days each.
Not until 300 did I have a blowout...One lasting about 20 days.
Now in the 700's I had one, recognized it and think I am already coming out of it.
I have experience so much growth and change. More in the last couple years that the previous 10.
Man its be a reward to hurt and grow. I am blessed to be an addict in recovery.
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Do black people dip?
Does a hobby horse have a wooden dick?
Ever see Warren Sapp after a football game? Or Austin Jackson of the Detroit tigers?
Lmao, do white people drink Malt Liquor? Damn bro, I was waiting for the punch line. Lol
lol I would say the majority of dippers are young white males, but we have an active black former dipper named iphilister that is a bad ass quitter. Do all black people like fried chicken and watermelon........... _
For the record, I like Colt 45. True story.
Went to college with a black guy who dipped. Honestly, he's the only black guy I've ever known to dip.
Guess I'm just in the minority. I know lots of black people that dip. And by the way I knew Jaydubya liked malt liq. He also likes Champiple along with Fred and Graddy
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Do black people dip?
Does a hobby horse have a wooden dick?
Ever see Warren Sapp after a football game? Or Austin Jackson of the Detroit tigers?
Lmao, do white people drink Malt Liquor? Damn bro, I was waiting for the punch line. Lol
lol I would say the majority of dippers are young white males, but we have an active black former dipper named iphilister that is a bad ass quitter. Do all black people like fried chicken and watermelon........... _
For the record, I like Colt 45. True story.
Went to college with a black guy who dipped. Honestly, he's the only black guy I've ever known to dip.
Guess I'm just in the minority. I know lots of black people that dip. And by the way I knew Jaydubya liked malt liq. He also likes Champiple along with Fred and Graddy
'crackup'
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I'm feeling a feeling I recognize from my 280 to 350 quit period.Â
Is there another, fog, hurt, funk or some dark feelings people have in the 700's?Â
Not sure if I am over playing it but I feel like I am in danger. Not for nicotine, I made my promise but emotionally. I feel shity in the head. I went after my son for being lazy and after, I realized I was mad because I saw me years ago. He deserved being told to get going but I think I handled my approach poorly.Â
Now I am thinking that I used him to yell at me. Sounds weird but what bothered me is that he....is me. Now since venting on him, I feel shity. Â
Anyone have thoughts on this?
Yup, had a funky period right around two years and another one right before comma time.
Was he being Lazy? Is he slacking on things he shouldn't be? Does he need a little push?
Sometimes it was easiest to see the same faults in my kids as ones I had growing up. And yes I did get on to them so they would learn to manage those faults and overcome them easier than I did.
Being a parent is not always being their best friend.
I had quit for 3 years quite some time ago and I was an asshole. I yelled all the time and I blamed it on the fact that I quit dipping. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. I now have a new place to bitch and that is here. I don't plan on being an asshole but if the need arises, I will do it here and not against my family.
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I'm feeling a feeling I recognize from my 280 to 350 quit period.Â
Is there another, fog, hurt, funk or some dark feelings people have in the 700's?Â
Not sure if I am over playing it but I feel like I am in danger. Not for nicotine, I made my promise but emotionally. I feel shity in the head. I went after my son for being lazy and after, I realized I was mad because I saw me years ago. He deserved being told to get going but I think I handled my approach poorly.Â
Now I am thinking that I used him to yell at me. Sounds weird but what bothered me is that he....is me.  Now since venting on him, I feel shity. Â
Anyone have thoughts on this?
Yup, had a funky period right around two years and another one right before comma time.
Was he being Lazy? Is he slacking on things he shouldn't be? Does he need a little push?
Sometimes it was easiest to see the same faults in my kids as ones I had growing up. And yes I did get on to them so they would learn to manage those faults and overcome them easier than I did.
Being a parent is not always being their best friend.
I had quit for 3 years quite some time ago and I was an asshole. I yelled all the time and I blamed it on the fact that I quit dipping. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. I now have a new place to bitch and that is here. I don't plan on being an asshole but if the need arises, I will do it here and not against my family.
I'll attest for the comma funk.
I'm not in any danger at all, but I just don't feel as "proactive". I guess that this quit has become such a huge part of my life, that I feel like I should be working on it more and it's coming naturally. That makes me feel "funky" and then I get down on myself. It's a weird feeling.
This tax season has become crazy and I do hit the fake stuff now that I'm full swing. It is what it is though. I adopted a new quitter. I have my spiderweb of accountability set up. I'm not afraid of failing because I control my actions.
I'll tell you one thing though...I can't wait to post in the Hall of Legends.
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Question from a new quitter: I'm on day 6 of my quit. Things are going pretty well, I'm starting to feel human again. This may sound strange, but perhaps the hardest part of this quit so far has been the sores in my mouth that are appearing. I have a canker sore in my lower gums, and about 5 smaller sores on my tongue that make eating incredibly painful. I know that sores like these are expected in quitters, but these absolutely suck. For those of you that have experienced this, how long do these hang around? Is there anything I can do to make these go away faster? Thanks guys.
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Question from a new quitter: I'm on day 6 of my quit. Things are going pretty well, I'm starting to feel human again. This may sound strange, but perhaps the hardest part of this quit so far has been the sores in my mouth that are appearing. I have a canker sore in my lower gums, and about 5 smaller sores on my tongue that make eating incredibly painful. I know that sores like these are expected in quitters, but these absolutely suck. For those of you that have experienced this, how long do these hang around? Is there anything I can do to make these go away faster? Thanks guys.
6-8 months...
Just kidding. Mine went away after about a week to 10 days. there is a lot of heling that has to take place.
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Question from a new quitter: I'm on day 6 of my quit. Things are going pretty well, I'm starting to feel human again. This may sound strange, but perhaps the hardest part of this quit so far has been the sores in my mouth that are appearing. I have a canker sore in my lower gums, and about 5 smaller sores on my tongue that make eating incredibly painful. I know that sores like these are expected in quitters, but these absolutely suck. For those of you that have experienced this, how long do these hang around? Is there anything I can do to make these go away faster? Thanks guys.
6-8 months...
Just kidding. Mine went away after about a week to 10 days. there is a lot of heling that has to take place.
ditto, make sure you have better hygiene now than you ever did before.
That means brushing 2 times a day, listerine sucks when you have sores like that but I think it helps, floss too.
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I'm feeling a feeling I recognize from my 280 to 350 quit period.Â
Is there another, fog, hurt, funk or some dark feelings people have in the 700's?Â
Not sure if I am over playing it but I feel like I am in danger. Not for nicotine, I made my promise but emotionally. I feel shity in the head. I went after my son for being lazy and after, I realized I was mad because I saw me years ago. He deserved being told to get going but I think I handled my approach poorly.Â
Now I am thinking that I used him to yell at me. Sounds weird but what bothered me is that he....is me.  Now since venting on him, I feel shity. Â
Anyone have thoughts on this?
Yup, had a funky period right around two years and another one right before comma time.
Was he being Lazy? Is he slacking on things he shouldn't be? Does he need a little push?
Sometimes it was easiest to see the same faults in my kids as ones I had growing up. And yes I did get on to them so they would learn to manage those faults and overcome them easier than I did.
Being a parent is not always being their best friend.
I had quit for 3 years quite some time ago and I was an asshole. I yelled all the time and I blamed it on the fact that I quit dipping. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. I now have a new place to bitch and that is here. I don't plan on being an asshole but if the need arises, I will do it here and not against my family.
I'll attest for the comma funk.
I'm not in any danger at all, but I just don't feel as "proactive". I guess that this quit has become such a huge part of my life, that I feel like I should be working on it more and it's coming naturally. That makes me feel "funky" and then I get down on myself. It's a weird feeling.
This tax season has become crazy and I do hit the fake stuff now that I'm full swing. It is what it is though. I adopted a new quitter. I have my spiderweb of accountability set up. I'm not afraid of failing because I control my actions.
I'll tell you one thing though...I can't wait to post in the Hall of Legends.
Why does it have to be associated with the fact that you quit using nicotine? I'm sorry to say this, and I know it will incur retaliation from some, but not all bad things in life happen because you do, or did use nicotine and then quit.
Initially when you quit, yes there are some times in the first year or so that your body will be settling down and become uncomfortable. Especially in the very beginning. However this idea that bad emotional states are brought about by the fact that you quit using nicotine after a long term just don't seem viable to me.
Simple basic fact is nicotine is addictive. We all know that. The short term effects of the drug are obvious. Withdraws are anything from mild to very unpleasant. The body and the mind will take time to heal from this and to put to rest the rituals created by it's use. But after a while, it is over.
I think a "funk" is really just a normal part of life, and they happen. In the beginning of a quit, things can get really funky. But after a year, I think it is best to just chalk up a funk to normal life. Part of the quit ritual is that unpleasant sensations are associated to the quit. But this too can be broken.
MJ
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I'm feeling a feeling I recognize from my 280 to 350 quit period.Â
Is there another, fog, hurt, funk or some dark feelings people have in the 700's?Â
Not sure if I am over playing it but I feel like I am in danger. Not for nicotine, I made my promise but emotionally. I feel shity in the head. I went after my son for being lazy and after, I realized I was mad because I saw me years ago. He deserved being told to get going but I think I handled my approach poorly.Â
Now I am thinking that I used him to yell at me. Sounds weird but what bothered me is that he....is me.  Now since venting on him, I feel shity. Â
Anyone have thoughts on this?
Yup, had a funky period right around two years and another one right before comma time.
Was he being Lazy? Is he slacking on things he shouldn't be? Does he need a little push?
Sometimes it was easiest to see the same faults in my kids as ones I had growing up. And yes I did get on to them so they would learn to manage those faults and overcome them easier than I did.
Being a parent is not always being their best friend.
I had quit for 3 years quite some time ago and I was an asshole. I yelled all the time and I blamed it on the fact that I quit dipping. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. I now have a new place to bitch and that is here. I don't plan on being an asshole but if the need arises, I will do it here and not against my family.
I'll attest for the comma funk.
I'm not in any danger at all, but I just don't feel as "proactive". I guess that this quit has become such a huge part of my life, that I feel like I should be working on it more and it's coming naturally. That makes me feel "funky" and then I get down on myself. It's a weird feeling.
This tax season has become crazy and I do hit the fake stuff now that I'm full swing. It is what it is though. I adopted a new quitter. I have my spiderweb of accountability set up. I'm not afraid of failing because I control my actions.
I'll tell you one thing though...I can't wait to post in the Hall of Legends.
Why does it have to be associated with the fact that you quit using nicotine? I'm sorry to say this, and I know it will incur retaliation from some, but not all bad things in life happen because you do, or did use nicotine and then quit.
Initially when you quit, yes there are some times in the first year or so that your body will be settling down and become uncomfortable. Especially in the very beginning. However this idea that bad emotional states are brought about by the fact that you quit using nicotine after a long term just don't seem viable to me.
Simple basic fact is nicotine is addictive. We all know that. The short term effects of the drug are obvious. Withdraws are anything from mild to very unpleasant. The body and the mind will take time to heal from this and to put to rest the rituals created by it's use. But after a while, it is over.
I think a "funk" is really just a normal part of life, and they happen. In the beginning of a quit, things can get really funky. But after a year, I think it is best to just chalk up a funk to normal life. Part of the quit ritual is that unpleasant sensations are associated to the quit. But this too can be broken.
MJ
I agree. It's my opinion that much of the shit that comes about as part of life is like you said just part of life. So what's the problem? Its my opinion that I never learned to deal with life when I used. In fact I used as a way of coping or avoiding the problems. Accepting life and learning to live by the serenity prayer. Not just the part most of us have heard:God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change;Â
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.
But the whole prayer which I believe Mjollnir introduced to me some time ago. I keep the Serenity Prayer (http://www.cptryon.org/prayer/special/serenity.html) open on a tab on my phone browser ever since. I will not use nicotine to hide from my problems. At times I feel like an old dog trying to learn new tricks. Like most of us I never experienced adult life without nicotine. I don't buy into quitting nicotine being the problem but rather quitting exposed the existing problems. It's my opinion that when we learn to fully accept and deal with life we can walk away and never run the risk of caving. At this point I'm learning to meet life's challenges slowly. I still get depressed that change doesn't come fast enough or I end up falling back into the old attitudes and my addicted mind kicks in with the possibility of an old remedy.
-
I'm feeling a feeling I recognize from my 280 to 350 quit period.Â
Is there another, fog, hurt, funk or some dark feelings people have in the 700's?Â
Not sure if I am over playing it but I feel like I am in danger. Not for nicotine, I made my promise but emotionally. I feel shity in the head. I went after my son for being lazy and after, I realized I was mad because I saw me years ago. He deserved being told to get going but I think I handled my approach poorly.Â
Now I am thinking that I used him to yell at me. Sounds weird but what bothered me is that he....is me.  Now since venting on him, I feel shity. Â
Anyone have thoughts on this?
Yup, had a funky period right around two years and another one right before comma time.
Was he being Lazy? Is he slacking on things he shouldn't be? Does he need a little push?
Sometimes it was easiest to see the same faults in my kids as ones I had growing up. And yes I did get on to them so they would learn to manage those faults and overcome them easier than I did.
Being a parent is not always being their best friend.
I had quit for 3 years quite some time ago and I was an asshole. I yelled all the time and I blamed it on the fact that I quit dipping. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. I now have a new place to bitch and that is here. I don't plan on being an asshole but if the need arises, I will do it here and not against my family.
I'll attest for the comma funk.
I'm not in any danger at all, but I just don't feel as "proactive". I guess that this quit has become such a huge part of my life, that I feel like I should be working on it more and it's coming naturally. That makes me feel "funky" and then I get down on myself. It's a weird feeling.
This tax season has become crazy and I do hit the fake stuff now that I'm full swing. It is what it is though. I adopted a new quitter. I have my spiderweb of accountability set up. I'm not afraid of failing because I control my actions.
I'll tell you one thing though...I can't wait to post in the Hall of Legends.
Why does it have to be associated with the fact that you quit using nicotine? I'm sorry to say this, and I know it will incur retaliation from some, but not all bad things in life happen because you do, or did use nicotine and then quit.
Initially when you quit, yes there are some times in the first year or so that your body will be settling down and become uncomfortable. Especially in the very beginning. However this idea that bad emotional states are brought about by the fact that you quit using nicotine after a long term just don't seem viable to me.
Simple basic fact is nicotine is addictive. We all know that. The short term effects of the drug are obvious. Withdraws are anything from mild to very unpleasant. The body and the mind will take time to heal from this and to put to rest the rituals created by it's use. But after a while, it is over.
I think a "funk" is really just a normal part of life, and they happen. In the beginning of a quit, things can get really funky. But after a year, I think it is best to just chalk up a funk to normal life. Part of the quit ritual is that unpleasant sensations are associated to the quit. But this too can be broken.
MJ
I agree. It's my opinion that much of the shit that comes about as part of life is like you said just part of life. So what's the problem? Its my opinion that I never learned to deal with life when I used. In fact I used as a way of coping or avoiding the problems. Accepting life and learning to live by the serenity prayer. Not just the part most of us have heard:God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change;Â
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.
But the whole prayer which I believe Mjollnir introduced to me some time ago. I keep the Serenity Prayer (http://www.cptryon.org/prayer/special/serenity.html) open on a tab on my phone browser ever since. I will not use nicotine to hide from my problems. At times I feel like an old dog trying to learn new tricks. Like most of us I never experienced adult life without nicotine. I don't buy into quitting nicotine being the problem but rather quitting exposed the existing problems. It's my opinion that when we learn to fully accept and deal with life we can walk away and never run the risk of caving. At this point I'm learning to meet life's challenges slowly. I still get depressed that change doesn't come fast enough or I end up falling back into the old attitudes and my addicted mind kicks in with the possibility of an old remedy.
A very good hypothesis.
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Question from a new quitter: I'm on day 6 of my quit. Things are going pretty well, I'm starting to feel human again. This may sound strange, but perhaps the hardest part of this quit so far has been the sores in my mouth that are appearing. I have a canker sore in my lower gums, and about 5 smaller sores on my tongue that make eating incredibly painful. I know that sores like these are expected in quitters, but these absolutely suck. For those of you that have experienced this, how long do these hang around? Is there anything I can do to make these go away faster? Thanks guys.
Hey, just a newbie myself but have some medical education and experience with awful canker sores. See your dentist or GP (pharmacist might be able to help) and ask them for a product that coats the sores. It is like a super glue substance that is applied with some sponge applicators. It helps a lot on the large cheek ulcers, not so much on the tongue. Also, avoid spice or acidic foods and drinks for a while. Most of them take 10 to 14 days to go away, which can seem like an eternity. A lot of these are caused by a type of herpes virus and it is thought that lysine pills can help keep it in remission. You can get these at any pharmacy.
Hope that helps
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I'm feeling a feeling I recognize from my 280 to 350 quit period.Â
Is there another, fog, hurt, funk or some dark feelings people have in the 700's?Â
Not sure if I am over playing it but I feel like I am in danger. Not for nicotine, I made my promise but emotionally. I feel shity in the head. I went after my son for being lazy and after, I realized I was mad because I saw me years ago. He deserved being told to get going but I think I handled my approach poorly.Â
Now I am thinking that I used him to yell at me. Sounds weird but what bothered me is that he....is me.  Now since venting on him, I feel shity. Â
Anyone have thoughts on this?
Yup, had a funky period right around two years and another one right before comma time.
Was he being Lazy? Is he slacking on things he shouldn't be? Does he need a little push?
Sometimes it was easiest to see the same faults in my kids as ones I had growing up. And yes I did get on to them so they would learn to manage those faults and overcome them easier than I did.
Being a parent is not always being their best friend.
I had quit for 3 years quite some time ago and I was an asshole. I yelled all the time and I blamed it on the fact that I quit dipping. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. I now have a new place to bitch and that is here. I don't plan on being an asshole but if the need arises, I will do it here and not against my family.
I'll attest for the comma funk.
I'm not in any danger at all, but I just don't feel as "proactive". I guess that this quit has become such a huge part of my life, that I feel like I should be working on it more and it's coming naturally. That makes me feel "funky" and then I get down on myself. It's a weird feeling.
This tax season has become crazy and I do hit the fake stuff now that I'm full swing. It is what it is though. I adopted a new quitter. I have my spiderweb of accountability set up. I'm not afraid of failing because I control my actions.
I'll tell you one thing though...I can't wait to post in the Hall of Legends.
Why does it have to be associated with the fact that you quit using nicotine? I'm sorry to say this, and I know it will incur retaliation from some, but not all bad things in life happen because you do, or did use nicotine and then quit.
Initially when you quit, yes there are some times in the first year or so that your body will be settling down and become uncomfortable. Especially in the very beginning. However this idea that bad emotional states are brought about by the fact that you quit using nicotine after a long term just don't seem viable to me.
Simple basic fact is nicotine is addictive. We all know that. The short term effects of the drug are obvious. Withdraws are anything from mild to very unpleasant. The body and the mind will take time to heal from this and to put to rest the rituals created by it's use. But after a while, it is over.
I think a "funk" is really just a normal part of life, and they happen. In the beginning of a quit, things can get really funky. But after a year, I think it is best to just chalk up a funk to normal life. Part of the quit ritual is that unpleasant sensations are associated to the quit. But this too can be broken.
MJ
I agree. It's my opinion that much of the shit that comes about as part of life is like you said just part of life. So what's the problem? Its my opinion that I never learned to deal with life when I used. In fact I used as a way of coping or avoiding the problems. Accepting life and learning to live by the serenity prayer. Not just the part most of us have heard:God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change;Â
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.
But the whole prayer which I believe Mjollnir introduced to me some time ago. I keep the Serenity Prayer (http://www.cptryon.org/prayer/special/serenity.html) open on a tab on my phone browser ever since. I will not use nicotine to hide from my problems. At times I feel like an old dog trying to learn new tricks. Like most of us I never experienced adult life without nicotine. I don't buy into quitting nicotine being the problem but rather quitting exposed the existing problems. It's my opinion that when we learn to fully accept and deal with life we can walk away and never run the risk of caving. At this point I'm learning to meet life's challenges slowly. I still get depressed that change doesn't come fast enough or I end up falling back into the old attitudes and my addicted mind kicks in with the possibility of an old remedy.
A very good hypothesis.
The idea of a Day 700 funk is real. Very real.
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Question from a new quitter: I'm on day 6 of my quit. Things are going pretty well, I'm starting to feel human again. This may sound strange, but perhaps the hardest part of this quit so far has been the sores in my mouth that are appearing. I have a canker sore in my lower gums, and about 5 smaller sores on my tongue that make eating incredibly painful. I know that sores like these are expected in quitters, but these absolutely suck. For those of you that have experienced this, how long do these hang around? Is there anything I can do to make these go away faster? Thanks guys.
Hey, just a newbie myself but have some medical education and experience with awful canker sores. See your dentist or GP (pharmacist might be able to help) and ask them for a product that coats the sores. It is like a super glue substance that is applied with some sponge applicators. It helps a lot on the large cheek ulcers, not so much on the tongue. Also, avoid spice or acidic foods and drinks for a while. Most of them take 10 to 14 days to go away, which can seem like an eternity. A lot of these are caused by a type of herpes virus and it is thought that lysine pills can help keep it in remission. You can get these at any pharmacy.
Hope that helps
I'm a big canker sore sufferer... at least in the 7+ years since I quit.
Here's a couple of articles I've put together re: canker's over the years.
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/02/cank ... er-dipper/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/02/canker-sores-in-the-mind-of-a-former-dipper/)
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/06/even ... ar-cancer/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/06/even-after-7-years-i-still-fear-cancer/)
chewie
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I'm feeling a feeling I recognize from my 280 to 350 quit period.Â
Is there another, fog, hurt, funk or some dark feelings people have in the 700's?Â
Not sure if I am over playing it but I feel like I am in danger. Not for nicotine, I made my promise but emotionally. I feel shity in the head. I went after my son for being lazy and after, I realized I was mad because I saw me years ago. He deserved being told to get going but I think I handled my approach poorly.Â
Now I am thinking that I used him to yell at me. Sounds weird but what bothered me is that he....is me.  Now since venting on him, I feel shity. Â
Anyone have thoughts on this?
Yup, had a funky period right around two years and another one right before comma time.
Was he being Lazy? Is he slacking on things he shouldn't be? Does he need a little push?
Sometimes it was easiest to see the same faults in my kids as ones I had growing up. And yes I did get on to them so they would learn to manage those faults and overcome them easier than I did.
Being a parent is not always being their best friend.
I had quit for 3 years quite some time ago and I was an asshole. I yelled all the time and I blamed it on the fact that I quit dipping. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. I now have a new place to bitch and that is here. I don't plan on being an asshole but if the need arises, I will do it here and not against my family.
I'll attest for the comma funk.
I'm not in any danger at all, but I just don't feel as "proactive". I guess that this quit has become such a huge part of my life, that I feel like I should be working on it more and it's coming naturally. That makes me feel "funky" and then I get down on myself. It's a weird feeling.
This tax season has become crazy and I do hit the fake stuff now that I'm full swing. It is what it is though. I adopted a new quitter. I have my spiderweb of accountability set up. I'm not afraid of failing because I control my actions.
I'll tell you one thing though...I can't wait to post in the Hall of Legends.
Why does it have to be associated with the fact that you quit using nicotine? I'm sorry to say this, and I know it will incur retaliation from some, but not all bad things in life happen because you do, or did use nicotine and then quit.
Initially when you quit, yes there are some times in the first year or so that your body will be settling down and become uncomfortable. Especially in the very beginning. However this idea that bad emotional states are brought about by the fact that you quit using nicotine after a long term just don't seem viable to me.
Simple basic fact is nicotine is addictive. We all know that. The short term effects of the drug are obvious. Withdraws are anything from mild to very unpleasant. The body and the mind will take time to heal from this and to put to rest the rituals created by it's use. But after a while, it is over.
I think a "funk" is really just a normal part of life, and they happen. In the beginning of a quit, things can get really funky. But after a year, I think it is best to just chalk up a funk to normal life. Part of the quit ritual is that unpleasant sensations are associated to the quit. But this too can be broken.
MJ
I agree. It's my opinion that much of the shit that comes about as part of life is like you said just part of life. So what's the problem? Its my opinion that I never learned to deal with life when I used. In fact I used as a way of coping or avoiding the problems. Accepting life and learning to live by the serenity prayer. Not just the part most of us have heard:God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change;Â
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.
But the whole prayer which I believe Mjollnir introduced to me some time ago. I keep the Serenity Prayer (http://www.cptryon.org/prayer/special/serenity.html) open on a tab on my phone browser ever since. I will not use nicotine to hide from my problems. At times I feel like an old dog trying to learn new tricks. Like most of us I never experienced adult life without nicotine. I don't buy into quitting nicotine being the problem but rather quitting exposed the existing problems. It's my opinion that when we learn to fully accept and deal with life we can walk away and never run the risk of caving. At this point I'm learning to meet life's challenges slowly. I still get depressed that change doesn't come fast enough or I end up falling back into the old attitudes and my addicted mind kicks in with the possibility of an old remedy.
A very good hypothesis.
The idea of a Day 700 funk is real. Very real.
This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe1ScoePqVA)is what I do when I get near a Funk.
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New Blog Post: Why Are You So Opposed To Nicotine-Laced Alternatives?
http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/03/why- ... ernatives/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/03/why-are-you-so-opposed-to-nicotine-laced-alternatives/)
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I'm feeling a feeling I recognize from my 280 to 350 quit period.Â
Is there another, fog, hurt, funk or some dark feelings people have in the 700's?Â
Not sure if I am over playing it but I feel like I am in danger. Not for nicotine, I made my promise but emotionally. I feel shity in the head. I went after my son for being lazy and after, I realized I was mad because I saw me years ago. He deserved being told to get going but I think I handled my approach poorly.Â
Now I am thinking that I used him to yell at me. Sounds weird but what bothered me is that he....is me.  Now since venting on him, I feel shity. Â
Anyone have thoughts on this?
Yup, had a funky period right around two years and another one right before comma time.
Was he being Lazy? Is he slacking on things he shouldn't be? Does he need a little push?
Sometimes it was easiest to see the same faults in my kids as ones I had growing up. And yes I did get on to them so they would learn to manage those faults and overcome them easier than I did.
Being a parent is not always being their best friend.
I had quit for 3 years quite some time ago and I was an asshole. I yelled all the time and I blamed it on the fact that I quit dipping. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. I now have a new place to bitch and that is here. I don't plan on being an asshole but if the need arises, I will do it here and not against my family.
I'll attest for the comma funk.
I'm not in any danger at all, but I just don't feel as "proactive". I guess that this quit has become such a huge part of my life, that I feel like I should be working on it more and it's coming naturally. That makes me feel "funky" and then I get down on myself. It's a weird feeling.
This tax season has become crazy and I do hit the fake stuff now that I'm full swing. It is what it is though. I adopted a new quitter. I have my spiderweb of accountability set up. I'm not afraid of failing because I control my actions.
I'll tell you one thing though...I can't wait to post in the Hall of Legends.
Why does it have to be associated with the fact that you quit using nicotine? I'm sorry to say this, and I know it will incur retaliation from some, but not all bad things in life happen because you do, or did use nicotine and then quit.
Initially when you quit, yes there are some times in the first year or so that your body will be settling down and become uncomfortable. Especially in the very beginning. However this idea that bad emotional states are brought about by the fact that you quit using nicotine after a long term just don't seem viable to me.
Simple basic fact is nicotine is addictive. We all know that. The short term effects of the drug are obvious. Withdraws are anything from mild to very unpleasant. The body and the mind will take time to heal from this and to put to rest the rituals created by it's use. But after a while, it is over.
I think a "funk" is really just a normal part of life, and they happen. In the beginning of a quit, things can get really funky. But after a year, I think it is best to just chalk up a funk to normal life. Part of the quit ritual is that unpleasant sensations are associated to the quit. But this too can be broken.
MJ
I agree. It's my opinion that much of the shit that comes about as part of life is like you said just part of life. So what's the problem? Its my opinion that I never learned to deal with life when I used. In fact I used as a way of coping or avoiding the problems. Accepting life and learning to live by the serenity prayer. Not just the part most of us have heard:God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change;Â
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.
But the whole prayer which I believe Mjollnir introduced to me some time ago. I keep the Serenity Prayer (http://www.cptryon.org/prayer/special/serenity.html) open on a tab on my phone browser ever since. I will not use nicotine to hide from my problems. At times I feel like an old dog trying to learn new tricks. Like most of us I never experienced adult life without nicotine. I don't buy into quitting nicotine being the problem but rather quitting exposed the existing problems. It's my opinion that when we learn to fully accept and deal with life we can walk away and never run the risk of caving. At this point I'm learning to meet life's challenges slowly. I still get depressed that change doesn't come fast enough or I end up falling back into the old attitudes and my addicted mind kicks in with the possibility of an old remedy.
A very good hypothesis.
The idea of a Day 700 funk is real. Very real.
This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe1ScoePqVA)is what I do when I get near a Funk.
That fear of stagnation is what inspired me to inflict myself upon a new group of quitters. The first time in 4, four!, years I have really invested myself in any group or individual outside of May 10. Not to sound like too much of an ass, but I just didn't have it in me to give a rat's ass about anyone else. Tough to admit, but finally after x amount of time had passed I felt it was time to live up to my mantra of keeping ahead of the nic bitch by working on it everyday. Sometimes that funk can come from some sort of hypocrisy within yourself. Too bad none of are psychiatrists, we could have a field day. Instead we're just a bunch of dumb addicts, from all walks of life, just trying to sort it all out.
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Hey folks, need some feedback on this one. I am working on a better template for the header and being that there are many different screen resolutions out there, I want to know where the header ends on your screen. The LARGE letters are what I am marking this by. For example: On my screen the header ends in the first section of the c in accountability.
Thanks for your help.
PS thanks for your patience chews
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Hey folks, need some feedback on this one. I am working on a better template for the header and being that there are many different screen resolutions out there, I want to know where the header ends on your screen. The LARGE letters are what I am marking this by. For example: On my screen the header ends in the first section of the c in accountability.
Thanks for your help.
PS thanks for your patience chews
Roam , mine ends just after the first A in accountability.
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Hey folks, need some feedback on this one. I am working on a better template for the header and being that there are many different screen resolutions out there, I want to know where the header ends on your screen. The LARGE letters are what I am marking this by. For example: On my screen the header ends in the first section of the c in accountability.
Thanks for your help.
PS thanks for your patience chews
Roam , mine ends just after the first A in accountability.
mine at work shows "brotherhood -"
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Hey folks, need some feedback on this one. I am working on a better template for the header and being that there are many different screen resolutions out there, I want to know where the header ends on your screen. The LARGE letters are what I am marking this by. For example: On my screen the header ends in the first section of the c in accountability.
Thanks for your help.
PS thanks for your patience chews
Roam , mine ends just after the first A in accountability.
mine at work shows "brotherhood -"
if I do the full length of my screen I get to the 2nd of the 2 O's at the end of Brotherhood
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Hey folks, need some feedback on this one. I am working on a better template for the header and being that there are many different screen resolutions out there, I want to know where the header ends on your screen. The LARGE letters are what I am marking this by. For example: On my screen the header ends in the first section of the c in accountability.
Thanks for your help.
PS thanks for your patience chews
Roam , mine ends just after the first A in accountability.
mine at work shows "brotherhood -"
if I do the full length of my screen I get to the 2nd of the 2 O's at the end of Brotherhood
I get up through half an "R" on brother. Safari on iPhone.
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Hey folks, need some feedback on this one. I am working on a better template for the header and being that there are many different screen resolutions out there, I want to know where the header ends on your screen. The LARGE letters are what I am marking this by. For example: On my screen the header ends in the first section of the c in accountability.
Thanks for your help.
PS thanks for your patience chews
Roam , mine ends just after the first A in accountability.
mine at work shows "brotherhood -"
if I do the full length of my screen I get to the 2nd of the 2 O's at the end of Brotherhood
I get up through half an "R" on brother. Safari on iPhone.
at home, almost the full r in brotherhood
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Hey folks, need some feedback on this one. I am working on a better template for the header and being that there are many different screen resolutions out there, I want to know where the header ends on your screen. The LARGE letters are what I am marking this by. For example: On my screen the header ends in the first section of the c in accountability.
Thanks for your help.
PS thanks for your patience chews
Roam , mine ends just after the first A in accountability.
mine at work shows "brotherhood -"
if I do the full length of my screen I get to the 2nd of the 2 O's at the end of Brotherhood
I get up through half an "R" on brother. Safari on iPhone.
at home, almost the full r in brotherhood
Brotherho...
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Hey folks, need some feedback on this one. I am working on a better template for the header and being that there are many different screen resolutions out there, I want to know where the header ends on your screen. The LARGE letters are what I am marking this by. For example: On my screen the header ends in the first section of the c in accountability.
Thanks for your help.
PS thanks for your patience chews
Roam , mine ends just after the first A in accountability.
mine at work shows "brotherhood -"
if I do the full length of my screen I get to the 2nd of the 2 O's at the end of Brotherhood
I get up through half an "R" on brother. Safari on iPhone.
at home, almost the full r in brotherhood
Brotherho...
Brotherhoo
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Hey folks, need some feedback on this one. I am working on a better template for the header and being that there are many different screen resolutions out there, I want to know where the header ends on your screen. The LARGE letters are what I am marking this by. For example: On my screen the header ends in the first section of the c in accountability.
Thanks for your help.
PS thanks for your patience chews
Roam , mine ends just after the first A in accountability.
mine at work shows "brotherhood -"
if I do the full length of my screen I get to the 2nd of the 2 O's at the end of Brotherhood
I get up through half an "R" on brother. Safari on iPhone.
at home, almost the full r in brotherhood
Brotherho...
Brotherhoo
Big letters I get
BROTHE
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From the Boston Globe:
Players find tobacco habit hard to shake
http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2014/ ... story.html (http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2014/03/06/tobacco-chewing-nasty-habit-still-kicking-mlb/nZDZK9LOFDlr0MFj9X1WkO/story.html)
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From the Boston Globe:
Players find tobacco habit hard to shake
http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2014/ ... story.html (http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2014/03/06/tobacco-chewing-nasty-habit-still-kicking-mlb/nZDZK9LOFDlr0MFj9X1WkO/story.html)
Nice article. I don't see how all these guys supposedly dip during the season but not in the offseason. They use it religiously over the long 162 game season, then just drop it? Sounds like they might be bullshitting but I could be wrong.
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Hey folks, need some feedback on this one. I am working on a better template for the header and being that there are many different screen resolutions out there, I want to know where the header ends on your screen. The LARGE letters are what I am marking this by. For example: On my screen the header ends in the first section of the c in accountability.
Thanks for your help.
PS thanks for your patience chews
Roam , mine ends just after the first A in accountability.
mine at work shows "brotherhood -"
if I do the full length of my screen I get to the 2nd of the 2 O's at the end of Brotherhood
I get up through half an "R" on brother. Safari on iPhone.
at home, almost the full r in brotherhood
Brotherho...
Brotherhoo
Big letters I get
BROTHE
I get half of the second c in accountability
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Hey folks, need some feedback on this one. I am working on a better template for the header and being that there are many different screen resolutions out there, I want to know where the header ends on your screen. The LARGE letters are what I am marking this by. For example: On my screen the header ends in the first section of the c in accountability.
Thanks for your help.
PS thanks for your patience chews
Roam , mine ends just after the first A in accountability.
mine at work shows "brotherhood -"
if I do the full length of my screen I get to the 2nd of the 2 O's at the end of Brotherhood
I get up through half an "R" on brother. Safari on iPhone.
at home, almost the full r in brotherhood
Brotherho...
Brotherhoo
Big letters I get
BROTHE
I get half of the second c in accountability
I see the start of the "T" in the sencond Accountability.
You'll never get one banner that is perfect for every display. Don't make yourself mental. Design for the smallest screen (non-widescreen) and lower resolution. You've never had a bad one! The new flash(?) component is slick!
I appreciate your efforts to spruce this place up.
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Hey folks, need some feedback on this one. I am working on a better template for the header and being that there are many different screen resolutions out there, I want to know where the header ends on your screen. The LARGE letters are what I am marking this by. For example: On my screen the header ends in the first section of the c in accountability.
Thanks for your help.
PS thanks for your patience chews
Roam , mine ends just after the first A in accountability.
mine at work shows "brotherhood -"
if I do the full length of my screen I get to the 2nd of the 2 O's at the end of Brotherhood
I get up through half an "R" on brother. Safari on iPhone.
at home, almost the full r in brotherhood
Brotherho...
Brotherhoo
Big letters I get
BROTHE
I get half of the second c in accountability
I see the start of the "T" in the sencond Accountability.
You'll never get one banner that is perfect for every display. Don't make yourself mental. Design for the smallest screen (non-widescreen) and lower resolution. You've never had a bad one! The new flash(?) component is slick!
I appreciate your efforts to spruce this place up.
Thanks for the feedback folks! Xactly what this was about E.
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From the Boston Globe:
Players find tobacco habit hard to shake
http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2014/ ... story.html (http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2014/03/06/tobacco-chewing-nasty-habit-still-kicking-mlb/nZDZK9LOFDlr0MFj9X1WkO/story.html)
Interesting story. Surprise! Maybe it's because you might get addicted to the nicotine. My younger brother still dips and sounds just like these guys. I give him a hard time about it, but he gives me the same old story we all know. He tells me, "Oh I can just quit anytime and not pick it back up for weeks." It's BS and we all know it. Sorry for getting worked up. I hate nicotine.
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I have friends who say the same thing. "I can quit whenever I want to." I used to be one of those people, too. But I made the decision and actually quit. And I'll never start up again!
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It is one of the many lies nic puppets say to convince themselves their in control. The only control is the quit.
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Amen to that, Doc. Being addicted, the NB is in control. Once you set your mind to quit and do so, you hold all the control. Quitting is the ultimate take-back of your life!
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I WANT TO SCREAM.... I AM CHEWING MY JAWS AGAIN LIKE WHEN I FIRST QUIT.... I AM AT DAY SIXTY EIGHT AND THE BITCH STILL WILL NOT LEAVE ME ALONE. PLUS NOW DEPRESSION WHAT THE FUCK DOES THIS BITCH WANT FROM ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I WANT TO SCREAM.... I AM CHEWING MY JAWS AGAIN LIKE WHEN I FIRST QUIT.... I AM AT DAY SIXTY EIGHT AND THE BITCH STILL WILL NOT LEAVE ME ALONE. PLUS NOW DEPRESSION WHAT THE FUCK DOES THIS BITCH WANT FROM ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You're in the funk. Hang in there. Promise it'll go away!
http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures ... nk-part-1/ (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/explaining-the-funk-part-1/)
http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures ... nk-part-2/ (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/explaining-the-funk-part-2/)
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I WANT TO SCREAM.... I AM CHEWING MY JAWS AGAIN LIKE WHEN I FIRST QUIT.... I AM AT DAY SIXTY EIGHT AND THE BITCH STILL WILL NOT LEAVE ME ALONE. PLUS NOW DEPRESSION WHAT THE FUCK DOES THIS BITCH WANT FROM ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You're in the funk. Hang in there. Promise it'll go away!
http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures ... nk-part-1/ (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/explaining-the-funk-part-1/)
http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures ... nk-part-2/ (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/explaining-the-funk-part-2/)
Early to mid 70s are prime funk areas for many. My worst day ever was day 74. Recognize it for what it is and move on. Keep doing what you're doing: posting roll, honoring your word, partaking in the brotherhood, and letting us know how you are doing.
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This is a repost from a few years back.... updated ... by request.
I know some of you know my story but some may not. Perhaps someone is stopping in this site and just thinking about quitting. I hope you make that choice and kill your can for good.
A little over 9 years ago I lay on a hospital bed at M.D. Anderson Cancer center in Houston. In the exact spot I had held my dip for so long they found a squamous cell carcinoma spot. I was told it was directly related to my dipping. That was near the end of September.
Now it was time to take care of it. My operation lasted some eleven hours. A large section of gum matter, three teeth and thirty seven lymphnodes were removed. My jawbone was shaved to half of it's thickness and a plate with screws added for reinforcement. A section of flesh was removed from my leg and now and forever resides in my mouth.
My recovery will never be complete as I have pain everyday from the surgery. When I wake in the mornings my neck has drawn tight and I have to stretch it. Some days it refuses to loosen. If I hold my head a certain way for any length of time, it tightens. Being a welder I usually hold my head a certain way everyday. I will forever have this piece of leg in my mouth and no one who has had this "pleasure" will know what wonderful breath and taste you can have with leg in your mouth, especially when you wake in the morning.
I hope this is not to commercially for you, but in case you haven't read my story or seen my pictures, go to my My Webpage (http://www.outdoortexan.com/mycancer.htm) and see what dipping did for me. If you are visiting here for the first time and merely considering quitting, please PLEASE do so. And don't forget to use every resource this site provides. I have been MIA in helping you guys and for that I apologize. I hope you all know I am willing to share with, talk with, any of you and would be deeply honored to help with your quit.
Take care, God bless and have a wonderful dip free remainder of your life.
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This is a repost from a few years back.... updated ... by request.
I know some of you know my story but some may not. Perhaps someone is stopping in this site and just thinking about quitting. I hope you make that choice and kill your can for good.
A little over 9 years ago I lay on a hospital bed at M.D. Anderson Cancer center in Houston. In the exact spot I had held my dip for so long they found a squamous cell carcinoma spot. I was told it was directly related to my dipping. That was near the end of September.
Now it was time to take care of it. My operation lasted some eleven hours. A large section of gum matter, three teeth and thirty seven lymphnodes were removed. My jawbone was shaved to half of it's thickness and a plate with screws added for reinforcement. A section of flesh was removed from my leg and now and forever resides in my mouth.
My recovery will never be complete as I have pain everyday from the surgery. When I wake in the mornings my neck has drawn tight and I have to stretch it. Some days it refuses to loosen. If I hold my head a certain way for any length of time, it tightens. Being a welder I usually hold my head a certain way everyday. I will forever have this piece of leg in my mouth and no one who has had this "pleasure" will know what wonderful breath and taste you can have with leg in your mouth, especially when you wake in the morning.
I hope this is not to commercially for you, but in case you haven't read my story or seen my pictures, go to my My Webpage (http://www.outdoortexan.com/mycancer.htm) and see what dipping did for me. If you are visiting here for the first time and merely considering quitting, please PLEASE do so. And don't forget to use every resource this site provides. I have been MIA in helping you guys and for that I apologize. I hope you all know I am willing to share with, talk with, any of you and would be deeply honored to help with your quit.
Take care, God bless and have a wonderful dip free remainder of your life.
Thank you for sharing your story again ODT.
I've re-posted it here on the main site: http://www.killthecan.org/outdoortexan- ... my-cancer/ (http://www.killthecan.org/outdoortexan-smokeless-tobacco-my-cancer/)
I'm guessing I'm speaking for everyone when I say I'm thrilled that you beat it and that you're here with us sharing your experiences and helping others kill their can.
Thanks friend.
chewie
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This is a repost from a few years back.... updated ... by request.
I know some of you know my story but some may not. Perhaps someone is stopping in this site and just thinking about quitting. I hope you make that choice and kill your can for good.
A little over 9 years ago I lay on a hospital bed at M.D. Anderson Cancer center in Houston. In the exact spot I had held my dip for so long they found a squamous cell carcinoma spot. I was told it was directly related to my dipping. That was near the end of September.
Now it was time to take care of it. My operation lasted some eleven hours. A large section of gum matter, three teeth and thirty seven lymphnodes were removed. My jawbone was shaved to half of it's thickness and a plate with screws added for reinforcement. A section of flesh was removed from my leg and now and forever resides in my mouth.
My recovery will never be complete as I have pain everyday from the surgery. When I wake in the mornings my neck has drawn tight and I have to stretch it. Some days it refuses to loosen. If I hold my head a certain way for any length of time, it tightens. Being a welder I usually hold my head a certain way everyday. I will forever have this piece of leg in my mouth and no one who has had this "pleasure" will know what wonderful breath and taste you can have with leg in your mouth, especially when you wake in the morning.
I hope this is not to commercially for you, but in case you haven't read my story or seen my pictures, go to my My Webpage (http://www.outdoortexan.com/mycancer.htm) and see what dipping did for me. If you are visiting here for the first time and merely considering quitting, please PLEASE do so. And don't forget to use every resource this site provides. I have been MIA in helping you guys and for that I apologize. I hope you all know I am willing to share with, talk with, any of you and would be deeply honored to help with your quit.
Take care, God bless and have a wonderful dip free remainder of your life.
Thank you for sharing your story again ODT.
I've re-posted it here on the main site: http://www.killthecan.org/outdoortexan- ... my-cancer/ (http://www.killthecan.org/outdoortexan-smokeless-tobacco-my-cancer/)
I'm guessing I'm speaking for everyone when I say I'm thrilled that you beat it and that you're here with us sharing your experiences and helping others kill their can.
Thanks friend.
chewie
Thanks ODT and Chewie. This is ultra powerful quit medicine!
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Are floors quarter years?
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Are floors quarter years?
No... when we refer to another "floor" we're referring to another HOF cycle (100 days).
So... if you're on day 800 you just hit the 8th "floor".
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Are floors quarter years?
No... when we refer to another "floor" we're referring to another HOF cycle (100 days).
So... if you're on day 800 you just hit the 8th "floor".
This fucking website is so hard to figure out. I posted a explanation of my first day fuckup on roll call and now its gone. It is nearly impossible to figure out where to go for imformation or how to explain myself. Sorry... Day 2 getting easily irretateted.
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New guy here. My name is Michael. I quit 3 days ago after 22 years of dipping. I started at age 16 and have been dipping 1.5 cans a day for as long as I can remember. The time has finally come to quit. For me and my family. It's tough now I feel strange like I'm on the edge. I hope this passes soon. I'm using smokey mountain. It's not great but better than nothing. Just wanted to introduce myself. Glad I stumbled across this site. I actually found it months ago. I've been reading some posts. I have to say it helps reading that others are going through the same things as I am. Thanks.
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New guy here. My name is Michael. I quit 3 days ago after 22 years of dipping. I started at age 16 and have been dipping 1.5 cans a day for as long as I can remember. The time has finally come to quit. For me and my family. It's tough now I feel strange like I'm on the edge. I hope this passes soon. I'm using smokey mountain. It's not great but better than nothing. Just wanted to introduce myself. Glad I stumbled across this site. I actually found it months ago. I've been reading some posts. I have to say it helps reading that others are going through the same things as I am. Thanks.
Delta, welcome to KTC, you need to get into a quit group and start posting roll, it's the price of admission around here.
Anything that helps you quit and does have nicotine is fine.
Read up, in the welcome center, and post an actual introduction in that area as well. Stick around we can help you quit and we can help you through all of this. But you have to start by posting roll.
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Are floors quarter years?
No... when we refer to another "floor" we're referring to another HOF cycle (100 days).
So... if you're on day 800 you just hit the 8th "floor".
This fucking website is so hard to figure out. I posted a explanation of my first day fuckup on roll call and now its gone. It is nearly impossible to figure out where to go for imformation or how to explain myself. Sorry... Day 2 getting easily irretateted.
No worries man... it's difficult especially when you're in the fog of a new quit. Hang in there and keep working. Before you know it you'll be flying around the site.
As for your specific question... make sure you hit GO TO FIRST UNREAD POST after you reply. Otherwise you're looking at the END of the thread... rather than the beginning.
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New guy here. My name is Michael. I quit 3 days ago after 22 years of dipping. I started at age 16 and have been dipping 1.5 cans a day for as long as I can remember. The time has finally come to quit. For me and my family. It's tough now I feel strange like I'm on the edge. I hope this passes soon. I'm using smokey mountain. It's not great but better than nothing. Just wanted to introduce myself. Glad I stumbled across this site. I actually found it months ago. I've been reading some posts. I have to say it helps reading that others are going through the same things as I am. Thanks.
Hey mud.
36+ years chewer here. The "fog" get better with time. Hang in there!
Post roll to show you commit to quit every damn day!
PM me if you need anything.
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This is a repost from a few years back.... updated ... by request.
I know some of you know my story but some may not. Perhaps someone is stopping in this site and just thinking about quitting. I hope you make that choice and kill your can for good.
A little over 9 years ago I lay on a hospital bed at M.D. Anderson Cancer center in Houston. In the exact spot I had held my dip for so long they found a squamous cell carcinoma spot. I was told it was directly related to my dipping. That was near the end of September.
Now it was time to take care of it. My operation lasted some eleven hours. A large section of gum matter, three teeth and thirty seven lymphnodes were removed. My jawbone was shaved to half of it's thickness and a plate with screws added for reinforcement. A section of flesh was removed from my leg and now and forever resides in my mouth.
My recovery will never be complete as I have pain everyday from the surgery. When I wake in the mornings my neck has drawn tight and I have to stretch it. Some days it refuses to loosen. If I hold my head a certain way for any length of time, it tightens. Being a welder I usually hold my head a certain way everyday. I will forever have this piece of leg in my mouth and no one who has had this "pleasure" will know what wonderful breath and taste you can have with leg in your mouth, especially when you wake in the morning.
I hope this is not to commercially for you, but in case you haven't read my story or seen my pictures, go to my My Webpage (http://www.outdoortexan.com/mycancer.htm) and see what dipping did for me. If you are visiting here for the first time and merely considering quitting, please PLEASE do so. And don't forget to use every resource this site provides. I have been MIA in helping you guys and for that I apologize. I hope you all know I am willing to share with, talk with, any of you and would be deeply honored to help with your quit.
Take care, God bless and have a wonderful dip free remainder of your life.
Thank you for sharing your story again ODT.
I've re-posted it here on the main site: http://www.killthecan.org/outdoortexan- ... my-cancer/ (http://www.killthecan.org/outdoortexan-smokeless-tobacco-my-cancer/)
I'm guessing I'm speaking for everyone when I say I'm thrilled that you beat it and that you're here with us sharing your experiences and helping others kill their can.
Thanks friend.
chewie
Thanks ODT and Chewie. This is ultra powerful quit medicine!
Wow.
Bump.
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This is a repost from a few years back.... updated ... by request.
I know some of you know my story but some may not. Perhaps someone is stopping in this site and just thinking about quitting. I hope you make that choice and kill your can for good.
A little over 9 years ago I lay on a hospital bed at M.D. Anderson Cancer center in Houston. In the exact spot I had held my dip for so long they found a squamous cell carcinoma spot. I was told it was directly related to my dipping. That was near the end of September.
Now it was time to take care of it. My operation lasted some eleven hours. A large section of gum matter, three teeth and thirty seven lymphnodes were removed. My jawbone was shaved to half of it's thickness and a plate with screws added for reinforcement. A section of flesh was removed from my leg and now and forever resides in my mouth.
My recovery will never be complete as I have pain everyday from the surgery. When I wake in the mornings my neck has drawn tight and I have to stretch it. Some days it refuses to loosen. If I hold my head a certain way for any length of time, it tightens. Being a welder I usually hold my head a certain way everyday. I will forever have this piece of leg in my mouth and no one who has had this "pleasure" will know what wonderful breath and taste you can have with leg in your mouth, especially when you wake in the morning.
I hope this is not to commercially for you, but in case you haven't read my story or seen my pictures, go to my My Webpage (http://www.outdoortexan.com/mycancer.htm) and see what dipping did for me. If you are visiting here for the first time and merely considering quitting, please PLEASE do so. And don't forget to use every resource this site provides. I have been MIA in helping you guys and for that I apologize. I hope you all know I am willing to share with, talk with, any of you and would be deeply honored to help with your quit.
Take care, God bless and have a wonderful dip free remainder of your life.
Thank you for sharing your story again ODT.
I've re-posted it here on the main site: http://www.killthecan.org/outdoortexan- ... my-cancer/ (http://www.killthecan.org/outdoortexan-smokeless-tobacco-my-cancer/)
I'm guessing I'm speaking for everyone when I say I'm thrilled that you beat it and that you're here with us sharing your experiences and helping others kill their can.
Thanks friend.
chewie
Thanks ODT and Chewie. This is ultra powerful quit medicine!
Wow.
Bump.
ODT, you and I have never talked but you have definitely influenced my quit. Thank you for putting yourself out there and helping not only me but many others on this journey. Proud to quit with you.
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hi people my name is omar I started dipping when I was 17 and at 21 have now taken the steps into quitting I am using lollipops (as funny as that sounds) and smokey mountain to help get through this, I do get edgy at times and jittery I was hoping if someone could help me out in ways to ease that or how long that would last.
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hi people my name is omar I started dipping when I was 17 and at 21 have now taken the steps into quitting I am using lollipops (as funny as that sounds) and smokey mountain to help get through this, I do get edgy at times and jittery I was hoping if someone could help me out in ways to ease that or how long that would last.
Awesome decision Omar! I wish I was that smart when I was 21.
First thing - this is going to suck for a while. And then it gets better.
It's different for everyone. I recommend you check the Welcome Center at the top of this page - there is a ton of information there about what to expect.
How many days Quit are you?
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hi people my name is omar I started dipping when I was 17 and at 21 have now taken the steps into quitting I am using lollipops (as funny as that sounds) and smokey mountain to help get through this, I do get edgy at times and jittery I was hoping if someone could help me out in ways to ease that or how long that would last.
Awesome decision Omar! I wish I was that smart when I was 21.
First thing - this is going to suck for a while. And then it gets better.
It's different for everyone. I recommend you check the Welcome Center at the top of this page - there is a ton of information there about what to expect.
How many days Quit are you?
Hey Omar. Glad you are here. The first few days can be tough. Slow down and take some deep breaths. Drink a lot of water. Try to exercise. POST ROLL to show your commitment and take one day at a time.
You...we can beat this.
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Hello everyone I just felt like sharing my experience so far! I'm only at day 2 and to be completely honest it is sucking right now. I'm hanging tough though! No tobacco I have found some relief with smokey mountain though! I always wanted to say I really so appreciate all the support I have been recieving! Lastely I was wondering if some Vetrans quitters could possibly PM and I could get to know some of my fellow quitters! Newbies like me are welcome to! Maybe we could talk ourselves through these rough times!
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Hello everyone I just felt like sharing my experience so far! I'm only at day 2 and to be completely honest it is sucking right now. I'm hanging tough though! No tobacco I have found some relief with smokey mountain though! I always wanted to say I really so appreciate all the support I have been recieving! Lastely I was wondering if some Vetrans quitters could possibly PM and I could get to know some of my fellow quitters! Newbies like me are welcome to! Maybe we could talk ourselves through these rough times!
Hang in there Rob. Drink as much water as you think you can w/o bursting. Go for a hard run no matter how far, push ups, sit ups, wall squats. Physical exertion will help with the craves. Use your sleep aid of choice at night and abstain from alcohol for a few weeks.
The suckage will go away in a few days, but man is it worth it. Many of us like to recommend that you embrace the way you feel right now. Remember it. Enjoy it. It's the feeling of the poison leaving your body. Also, you want to remember how bad it feels so you don't go through it again. 72 hours of withdrawl is just horrible and no one likes it. Just remember, one hit of nicotine through dip, cig, cigar, patch, gum will put you right back at square one. So never again, for any reason.
Get acquainted with not only the vets, but also your quit group. Those are the guys feeling the same pain you are. Exchange cell numbers, text each other jokes, let each other know how you are feeling. When you can't get to a computer to post roll, text someone and ask them to post roll for you. Many of those guys are willing to share, just ask in your group and send via private message. Don't post in the group as it's open season for ANYONE to see.
Join Live Chat, help new quitters, do whatever it is that you can to stick close to the site. You CAN do this. There is nothing that dip will fix for you, ever again. Just a matter of convincing your brain of that because right now, it's lying it's neurons off to you.
Water (gallons), exercise, accountability, roll. That's what will get you through right now.
My name is Mark. You PM me if you need anything.
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Hello everyone I just felt like sharing my experience so far! I'm only at day 2 and to be completely honest it is sucking right now. I'm hanging tough though! No tobacco I have found some relief with smokey mountain though! I always wanted to say I really so appreciate all the support I have been recieving! Lastely I was wondering if some Vetrans quitters could possibly PM and I could get to know some of my fellow quitters! Newbies like me are welcome to! Maybe we could talk ourselves through these rough times!
Hang in there Rob. Drink as much water as you think you can w/o bursting. Go for a hard run no matter how far, push ups, sit ups, wall squats. Physical exertion will help with the craves. Use your sleep aid of choice at night and abstain from alcohol for a few weeks.
The suckage will go away in a few days, but man is it worth it. Many of us like to recommend that you embrace the way you feel right now. Remember it. Enjoy it. It's the feeling of the poison leaving your body. Also, you want to remember how bad it feels so you don't go through it again. 72 hours of withdrawl is just horrible and no one likes it. Just remember, one hit of nicotine through dip, cig, cigar, patch, gum will put you right back at square one. So never again, for any reason.
Get acquainted with not only the vets, but also your quit group. Those are the guys feeling the same pain you are. Exchange cell numbers, text each other jokes, let each other know how you are feeling. When you can't get to a computer to post roll, text someone and ask them to post roll for you. Many of those guys are willing to share, just ask in your group and send via private message. Don't post in the group as it's open season for ANYONE to see.
Join Live Chat, help new quitters, do whatever it is that you can to stick close to the site. You CAN do this. There is nothing that dip will fix for you, ever again. Just a matter of convincing your brain of that because right now, it's lying it's neurons off to you.
Water (gallons), exercise, accountability, roll. That's what will get you through right now.
My name is Mark. You PM me if you need anything.
Rob, Wedge knows of what he talks. He is a bad ass quitter, we are both in July 2012 group and we've shared many of those quit experiences along the way. Those of us that have been quit for awhile can understand your pain and need that memory refreshed from time to time but those that are experiencing it for the first time together can form even stronger bonds. I never anticipated 2 years ago to develop such strong friendships with people 1000's of miles away and probably will never meet in person. Wedge and I are about as far apart distance wise as you can get in the lower 48 but we know about each other's struggles extending far beyond just quitting nicotine.
You are definitely on the right track.
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Hi guys. My name is Noel and live in Oregon. I've been chewing since I was 18 and I'm now 46 - can a day habit - Kodiak. My 7 year old daughter told me she didn't want me to die and that I need to stop. I don't want to die from chewing tobacco. I quit on Friday and I'm going through the withdrawals. It's tough as so many of you guys have posted. For the life of me I can't figure out how to enroll in a class or any thing else that I'm supposed to do on here but I thought I'd at least post a note to commit to you that I'm quitting this terrible addiction. I'm looking forward to the freedom that I know that I'll feel.
Thanks for taking the time to write all your posts even the little ones that say nothing but that you are struggling. I've read a lot over the last week and you can't imagine how much it helps. I know that you post especially as a new quitter to get help but I'm going to tell you - you are actually helping me by asking for help for yourself. For everyone of you guys that have taken the time to make a post regardless of what it was - thank you.
Two things I've discovered so far - my addiction is tied to emotions and its tied to habit. It's interesting the things I've discovered triggers me wanting a chew. Driving for example...weird reaching for the can at a stop light. The other is stress - anything at all - even a simple conversation makes me reach for my can which is no longer there. Been interesting having to actually DEAL with the emotion as opposed to mask it. I"m sure this will continue to be a challenge for awhile.
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Hi guys. My name is Noel and live in Oregon. I've been chewing since I was 18 and I'm now 46 - can a day habit - Kodiak. My 7 year old daughter told me she didn't want me to die and that I need to stop. I don't want to die from chewing tobacco. I quit on Friday and I'm going through the withdrawals. It's tough as so many of you guys have posted. For the life of me I can't figure out how to enroll in a class or any thing else that I'm supposed to do on here but I thought I'd at least post a note to commit to you that I'm quitting this terrible addiction. I'm looking forward to the freedom that I know that I'll feel.Â
Thanks for taking the time to write all your posts even the little ones that say nothing but that you are struggling. I've read a lot over the last week and you can't imagine how much it helps. I know that you post especially as a new quitter to get help but I'm going to tell you - you are actually helping me by asking for help for yourself. For everyone of you guys that have taken the time to make a post regardless of what it was - thank you.
Two things I've discovered so far - my addiction is tied to emotions and its tied to habit. It's interesting the things I've discovered triggers me wanting a chew. Driving for example...weird reaching for the can at a stop light. The other is stress - anything at all - even a simple conversation makes me reach for my can which is no longer there. Been interesting having to actually DEAL with the emotion as opposed to mask it. I"m sure this will continue to be a challenge for awhile.
Check your Inbox (1) upper right
** edit nice 1st time postage!
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Hi guys. My name is Noel and live in Oregon. I've been chewing since I was 18 and I'm now 46 - can a day habit - Kodiak. My 7 year old daughter told me she didn't want me to die and that I need to stop. I don't want to die from chewing tobacco. I quit on Friday and I'm going through the withdrawals. It's tough as so many of you guys have posted. For the life of me I can't figure out how to enroll in a class or any thing else that I'm supposed to do on here but I thought I'd at least post a note to commit to you that I'm quitting this terrible addiction. I'm looking forward to the freedom that I know that I'll feel.Â
Thanks for taking the time to write all your posts even the little ones that say nothing but that you are struggling. I've read a lot over the last week and you can't imagine how much it helps. I know that you post especially as a new quitter to get help but I'm going to tell you - you are actually helping me by asking for help for yourself. For everyone of you guys that have taken the time to make a post regardless of what it was - thank you.
Two things I've discovered so far - my addiction is tied to emotions and its tied to habit. It's interesting the things I've discovered triggers me wanting a chew. Driving for example...weird reaching for the can at a stop light. The other is stress - anything at all - even a simple conversation makes me reach for my can which is no longer there. Been interesting having to actually DEAL with the emotion as opposed to mask it. I"m sure this will continue to be a challenge for awhile.
Check your Inbox (1) upper right
** edit nice 1st time postage!
Way to go Bronc.
You have to make new associations without nicotine. I too have a young daughter, chewed 36+years , quit 39days. You can do this. Just take small steps and one day at a time. When the urges get bad, breath deep.
I imagine Cbird sent you info on how to post roll but if you need any help, PM me.
Quit with you.
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Thanks so much for the encouragement guys. Had my first work day without a dip today. It was tough...the drive into the office to sitting there trying to get stuff done. One of the things I really relied on chew was the ability to concentrate when I had some sort of document I had to read or edit or deal with in some way. I have a sort of ADD and I've used nicotine as my ritalin over the years starting in school. That's probably been the tougher part of this quit so far as my mind races from one thing to the next. Any of you guys have this issue? Anyone move over to Aderol or ritalin to help with that? What were your results with that.
One other really cool thing that happened. I told my daughter I had quit today after reading the Contract to give up. I could never give that to her. I could never lie to here like that so I have to finish this race. She just looked at me and said "good." That's it. No excitement no big deal just good. I thought about it a minute and realized that at this point in time - she just believes in me so much that it's done. I love that. She doesn't know i've tried and failed a 100 times. She doesn't care. To her - I"m her dad and I can do anything I say I'm going to do. When was the last time you had someone believe in you so much.
Last discovery today - a guy I don't even know off the board sent me an email with his phone number to encourage me and to call him if I needed to be talked off the ledge. I gotta tell you it really moved me. I had just read that contract to give up and I realized that you guys hate chew. That contract to give up says I love chew more than anything else. I hate that it is true. I love that you guys have turned that love to hate. You hate it so much that you are fighting to make sure that it doesn't harm anyone else ever again. If there was a criminal that harmed me or someone I loved I too would fight to make sure that guy would never hurt anyone again. Instead I love the thing that hurts me and that's an awful awful realization. I love the thing that not only hurts me but that hurt my family and friends directly and indirectly. I have embraced and learned to love the criminal. How terrible!!!! You have turned that love to a hate and hate that is so strong that you would fight to protect me - someone you don't even know. I'm moved beyond words.
Thank you.
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Thanks so much for the encouragement guys. Had my first work day without a dip today. It was tough...the drive into the office to sitting there trying to get stuff done. One of the things I really relied on chew was the ability to concentrate when I had some sort of document I had to read or edit or deal with in some way. I have a sort of ADD and I've used nicotine as my ritalin over the years starting in school. That's probably been the tougher part of this quit so far as my mind races from one thing to the next. Any of you guys have this issue? Anyone move over to Aderol or ritalin to help with that? What were your results with that.
One other really cool thing that happened. I told my daughter I had quit today after reading the Contract to give up. I could never give that to her. I could never lie to here like that so I have to finish this race. She just looked at me and said "good." That's it. No excitement no big deal just good. I thought about it a minute and realized that at this point in time - she just believes in me so much that it's done. I love that. She doesn't know i've tried and failed a 100 times. She doesn't care. To her - I"m her dad and I can do anything I say I'm going to do. When was the last time you had someone believe in you so much.
Last discovery today - a guy I don't even know off the board sent me an email with his phone number to encourage me and to call him if I needed to be talked off the ledge. I gotta tell you it really moved me. I had just read that contract to give up and I realized that you guys hate chew. That contract to give up says I love chew more than anything else. I hate that it is true. I love that you guys have turned that love to hate. You hate it so much that you are fighting to make sure that it doesn't harm anyone else ever again. If there was a criminal that harmed me or someone I loved I too would fight to make sure that guy would never hurt anyone again. Instead I love the thing that hurts me and that's an awful awful realization. I love the thing that not only hurts me but that hurt my family and friends directly and indirectly. I have embraced and learned to love the criminal. How terrible!!!! You have turned that love to a hate and hate that is so strong that you would fight to protect me - someone you don't even know. I'm moved beyond words.
Thank you.
Nicotine doesn't do any of that stuff that you mentioned. I'm no doctor, but I'm a mess and will offer my $0.02.
Maybe you have some issue when you know you to have to read something. You are ADD. I am dyslexic. Reading sucks for me unless it is something that I really want to read and it grabs me. I think when you were put into that situation you immediately got nervous. Ole nicotine was there, wired into your brain, and saw your nervousness as an opportunity to dig her claws into your addiction.
The fact is, nicotine placed those feelings into your brain to get the drug it needed. It was the addicition talking, not the reading and concentration. When those feelings went away, it wasn't the nicotine that fixed it, it was your brain saying "thanks" for topping off the drug levels in your blood.
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Thanks so much for the encouragement guys. Had my first work day without a dip today. It was tough...the drive into the office to sitting there trying to get stuff done. One of the things I really relied on chew was the ability to concentrate when I had some sort of document I had to read or edit or deal with in some way. I have a sort of ADD and I've used nicotine as my ritalin over the years starting in school. That's probably been the tougher part of this quit so far as my mind races from one thing to the next. Any of you guys have this issue? Anyone move over to Aderol or ritalin to help with that? What were your results with that.
One other really cool thing that happened. I told my daughter I had quit today after reading the Contract to give up. I could never give that to her. I could never lie to here like that so I have to finish this race. She just looked at me and said "good." That's it. No excitement no big deal just good. I thought about it a minute and realized that at this point in time - she just believes in me so much that it's done. I love that. She doesn't know i've tried and failed a 100 times. She doesn't care. To her - I"m her dad and I can do anything I say I'm going to do. When was the last time you had someone believe in you so much.
Last discovery today - a guy I don't even know off the board sent me an email with his phone number to encourage me and to call him if I needed to be talked off the ledge. I gotta tell you it really moved me. I had just read that contract to give up and I realized that you guys hate chew. That contract to give up says I love chew more than anything else. I hate that it is true. I love that you guys have turned that love to hate. You hate it so much that you are fighting to make sure that it doesn't harm anyone else ever again. If there was a criminal that harmed me or someone I loved I too would fight to make sure that guy would never hurt anyone again. Instead I love the thing that hurts me and that's an awful awful realization. I love the thing that not only hurts me but that hurt my family and friends directly and indirectly. I have embraced and learned to love the criminal. How terrible!!!! You have turned that love to a hate and hate that is so strong that you would fight to protect me - someone you don't even know. I'm moved beyond words.Â
Thank you.
Nicotine doesn't do any of that stuff that you mentioned. I'm no doctor, but I'm a mess and will offer my $0.02.
Maybe you have some issue when you know you to have to read something. You are ADD. I am dyslexic. Reading sucks for me unless it is something that I really want to read and it grabs me. I think when you were put into that situation you immediately got nervous. Ole nicotine was there, wired into your brain, and saw your nervousness as an opportunity to dig her claws into your addiction.
The fact is, nicotine placed those feelings into your brain to get the drug it needed. It was the addicition talking, not the reading and concentration. When those feelings went away, it wasn't the nicotine that fixed it, it was your brain saying "thanks" for topping off the drug levels in your blood.
One more tidbit since we are taking this one step at a time....
You did not or do not love the bitch. Nicotine is one of the most addictive and powerful substances known to man. It created the hole that it filled. It made you believe that you needed it. You do not need it, babies are not born and given nicotine to survive. You really need to turn your attitude around and start getting angry about the lies that you believed for so long.
You can do this.
Simple formula-
1 problem + nicotine = 2 problems.
Post roll early every day and then keep your word. There is no finish line, there is no tomorrow. Quit today and the rest will take care of itself.
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Thanks so much for the encouragement guys. Had my first work day without a dip today. It was tough...the drive into the office to sitting there trying to get stuff done. One of the things I really relied on chew was the ability to concentrate when I had some sort of document I had to read or edit or deal with in some way. I have a sort of ADD and I've used nicotine as my ritalin over the years starting in school. That's probably been the tougher part of this quit so far as my mind races from one thing to the next. Any of you guys have this issue? Anyone move over to Aderol or ritalin to help with that? What were your results with that.
One other really cool thing that happened. I told my daughter I had quit today after reading the Contract to give up. I could never give that to her. I could never lie to here like that so I have to finish this race. She just looked at me and said "good." That's it. No excitement no big deal just good. I thought about it a minute and realized that at this point in time - she just believes in me so much that it's done. I love that. She doesn't know i've tried and failed a 100 times. She doesn't care. To her - I"m her dad and I can do anything I say I'm going to do. When was the last time you had someone believe in you so much.
Last discovery today - a guy I don't even know off the board sent me an email with his phone number to encourage me and to call him if I needed to be talked off the ledge. I gotta tell you it really moved me. I had just read that contract to give up and I realized that you guys hate chew. That contract to give up says I love chew more than anything else. I hate that it is true. I love that you guys have turned that love to hate. You hate it so much that you are fighting to make sure that it doesn't harm anyone else ever again. If there was a criminal that harmed me or someone I loved I too would fight to make sure that guy would never hurt anyone again. Instead I love the thing that hurts me and that's an awful awful realization. I love the thing that not only hurts me but that hurt my family and friends directly and indirectly. I have embraced and learned to love the criminal. How terrible!!!! You have turned that love to a hate and hate that is so strong that you would fight to protect me - someone you don't even know. I'm moved beyond words.Â
Thank you.
Nicotine doesn't do any of that stuff that you mentioned. I'm no doctor, but I'm a mess and will offer my $0.02.
Maybe you have some issue when you know you to have to read something. You are ADD. I am dyslexic. Reading sucks for me unless it is something that I really want to read and it grabs me. I think when you were put into that situation you immediately got nervous. Ole nicotine was there, wired into your brain, and saw your nervousness as an opportunity to dig her claws into your addiction.
The fact is, nicotine placed those feelings into your brain to get the drug it needed. It was the addicition talking, not the reading and concentration. When those feelings went away, it wasn't the nicotine that fixed it, it was your brain saying "thanks" for topping off the drug levels in your blood.
One more tidbit since we are taking this one step at a time....
You did not or do not love the bitch. Nicotine is one of the most addictive and powerful substances known to man. It created the hole that it filled. It made you believe that you needed it. You do not need it, babies are not born and given nicotine to survive. You really need to turn your attitude around and start getting angry about the lies that you believed for so long.
You can do this.
Simple formula-
1 problem + nicotine = 2 problems.
Post roll early every day and then keep your word. There is no finish line, there is no tomorrow. Quit today and the rest will take care of itself.
Wise words. Thank you!
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Thanks so much for the encouragement guys. Had my first work day without a dip today. It was tough...the drive into the office to sitting there trying to get stuff done. One of the things I really relied on chew was the ability to concentrate when I had some sort of document I had to read or edit or deal with in some way. I have a sort of ADD and I've used nicotine as my ritalin over the years starting in school. That's probably been the tougher part of this quit so far as my mind races from one thing to the next. Any of you guys have this issue? Anyone move over to Aderol or ritalin to help with that? What were your results with that.
One other really cool thing that happened. I told my daughter I had quit today after reading the Contract to give up. I could never give that to her. I could never lie to here like that so I have to finish this race. She just looked at me and said "good." That's it. No excitement no big deal just good. I thought about it a minute and realized that at this point in time - she just believes in me so much that it's done. I love that. She doesn't know i've tried and failed a 100 times. She doesn't care. To her - I"m her dad and I can do anything I say I'm going to do. When was the last time you had someone believe in you so much.
Last discovery today - a guy I don't even know off the board sent me an email with his phone number to encourage me and to call him if I needed to be talked off the ledge. I gotta tell you it really moved me. I had just read that contract to give up and I realized that you guys hate chew. That contract to give up says I love chew more than anything else. I hate that it is true. I love that you guys have turned that love to hate. You hate it so much that you are fighting to make sure that it doesn't harm anyone else ever again. If there was a criminal that harmed me or someone I loved I too would fight to make sure that guy would never hurt anyone again. Instead I love the thing that hurts me and that's an awful awful realization. I love the thing that not only hurts me but that hurt my family and friends directly and indirectly. I have embraced and learned to love the criminal. How terrible!!!! You have turned that love to a hate and hate that is so strong that you would fight to protect me - someone you don't even know. I'm moved beyond words.Â
Thank you.
Nicotine doesn't do any of that stuff that you mentioned. I'm no doctor, but I'm a mess and will offer my $0.02.
Maybe you have some issue when you know you to have to read something. You are ADD. I am dyslexic. Reading sucks for me unless it is something that I really want to read and it grabs me. I think when you were put into that situation you immediately got nervous. Ole nicotine was there, wired into your brain, and saw your nervousness as an opportunity to dig her claws into your addiction.
The fact is, nicotine placed those feelings into your brain to get the drug it needed. It was the addicition talking, not the reading and concentration. When those feelings went away, it wasn't the nicotine that fixed it, it was your brain saying "thanks" for topping off the drug levels in your blood.
One more tidbit since we are taking this one step at a time....
You did not or do not love the bitch. Nicotine is one of the most addictive and powerful substances known to man. It created the hole that it filled. It made you believe that you needed it. You do not need it, babies are not born and given nicotine to survive. You really need to turn your attitude around and start getting angry about the lies that you believed for so long.
You can do this.
Simple formula-
1 problem + nicotine = 2 problems.
Post roll early every day and then keep your word. There is no finish line, there is no tomorrow. Quit today and the rest will take care of itself.
Wise words. Thank you!
Bronc- I sent you a message. YOU CAN AND WILL DO THIS! Welcome to a new life brother!
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New Blog Post: My Quit Tracker – Another Tool In Your Arsenal
http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/03/my-q ... r-arsenal/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/03/my-quit-tracker-another-tool-in-your-arsenal/)
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how to post roll ??? so confusing
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how to post roll ??? so confusing
Here is a link on how to post roll.
index.php?showtopic=50 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50)
Congrats on quitting, If you need anything PM me.
Mike aka MCO
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how to post roll ??? so confusing
Welcome center Read this first (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13)
How to post roll (http://www.killthecan.org/roll)
Assuming you are newly quit, this is the June quit group (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=9580)
If you have any other questions or need help pm me, Personal message (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?act=Msg&CODE=4&MID=16526)
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Thanks so much for the encouragement guys. Had my first work day without a dip today. It was tough...the drive into the office to sitting there trying to get stuff done. One of the things I really relied on chew was the ability to concentrate when I had some sort of document I had to read or edit or deal with in some way. I have a sort of ADD and I've used nicotine as my ritalin over the years starting in school. That's probably been the tougher part of this quit so far as my mind races from one thing to the next. Any of you guys have this issue? Anyone move over to Aderol or ritalin to help with that? What were your results with that.
One other really cool thing that happened. I told my daughter I had quit today after reading the Contract to give up. I could never give that to her. I could never lie to here like that so I have to finish this race. She just looked at me and said "good." That's it. No excitement no big deal just good. I thought about it a minute and realized that at this point in time - she just believes in me so much that it's done. I love that. She doesn't know i've tried and failed a 100 times. She doesn't care. To her - I"m her dad and I can do anything I say I'm going to do. When was the last time you had someone believe in you so much.
Last discovery today - a guy I don't even know off the board sent me an email with his phone number to encourage me and to call him if I needed to be talked off the ledge. I gotta tell you it really moved me. I had just read that contract to give up and I realized that you guys hate chew. That contract to give up says I love chew more than anything else. I hate that it is true. I love that you guys have turned that love to hate. You hate it so much that you are fighting to make sure that it doesn't harm anyone else ever again. If there was a criminal that harmed me or someone I loved I too would fight to make sure that guy would never hurt anyone again. Instead I love the thing that hurts me and that's an awful awful realization. I love the thing that not only hurts me but that hurt my family and friends directly and indirectly. I have embraced and learned to love the criminal. How terrible!!!! You have turned that love to a hate and hate that is so strong that you would fight to protect me - someone you don't even know. I'm moved beyond words.Â
Thank you.
Nicotine doesn't do any of that stuff that you mentioned. I'm no doctor, but I'm a mess and will offer my $0.02.
Maybe you have some issue when you know you to have to read something. You are ADD. I am dyslexic. Reading sucks for me unless it is something that I really want to read and it grabs me. I think when you were put into that situation you immediately got nervous. Ole nicotine was there, wired into your brain, and saw your nervousness as an opportunity to dig her claws into your addiction.
The fact is, nicotine placed those feelings into your brain to get the drug it needed. It was the addicition talking, not the reading and concentration. When those feelings went away, it wasn't the nicotine that fixed it, it was your brain saying "thanks" for topping off the drug levels in your blood.
One more tidbit since we are taking this one step at a time....
You did not or do not love the bitch. Nicotine is one of the most addictive and powerful substances known to man. It created the hole that it filled. It made you believe that you needed it. You do not need it, babies are not born and given nicotine to survive. You really need to turn your attitude around and start getting angry about the lies that you believed for so long.
You can do this.
Simple formula-
1 problem + nicotine = 2 problems.
Post roll early every day and then keep your word. There is no finish line, there is no tomorrow. Quit today and the rest will take care of itself.
Amazing summary, Evil Won
"Simple formula-
1 problem + nicotine = 2 problems."
That's about all you need to know when you start trying to blame/justify your issues
while in the claws of your quit.
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New Blog Post: Rest In Peace WarE2013
http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/03/rest ... -ware2013/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/03/rest-in-peace-ware2013/)
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Hey all just wanted to say a quick hi :) well its been 9 days of being free of that devil woman copehagen !!!!! She had me beat for 20 plus years at a tin a day and enough was enough. Im not sure if im even in the correct posting area so I wont say to much . chow 4 now
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Hey all just wanted to say a quick hi :) well its been 9 days of being free of that devil woman copehagen !!!!! She had me beat for 20 plus years at a tin a day and enough was enough. Im not sure if im even in the correct posting area so I wont say to much . chow 4 now
Get to the Welcome Center (Salmon colored link near the top left) and read those quick points. Then head over to June 14 (day 9 of no nicotine, right?) and add your name and day # to Roll Call. Repeat tomorrow.
Again, read the Welcome Center ASAP. Remember, this is a no nicotine site, not just dip. No cigs, e-cigs, pipes, plugs, cigars, nic-gum, nic-lozenges, etc. None means none.
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man today has been so fucking hard, i literally dont understand how im gonna make it from 1 second to the next. Everything pisses me off my minds racing and i dont understand anything anymore if i survive till tomorrow i'll be shocked
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man today has been so fucking hard, i literally dont understand how im gonna make it from 1 second to the next. Everything pisses me off my minds racing and i dont understand anything anymore if i survive till tomorrow i'll be shocked
You a fan of the walking dead man?
Fucking love the turn that show is taking here.
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man today has been so fucking hard, i literally dont understand how im gonna make it from 1 second to the next. Everything pisses me off my minds racing and i dont understand anything anymore if i survive till tomorrow i'll be shocked
You a fan of the walking dead man?
Fucking love the turn that show is taking here.
yea i havent watched the past couple episodes because i used to dip while i watched em. i thought by day 8 ( which im on) i would be feeling better but damn its rough. Im probably going to take a visit to the doctors cause i all ready had depression and the stress of this quit on my body and mind is to much.
but yea i love walking dead
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man today has been so fucking hard, i literally dont understand how im gonna make it from 1 second to the next. Everything pisses me off my minds racing and i dont understand anything anymore if i survive till tomorrow i'll be shocked
You a fan of the walking dead man?
Fucking love the turn that show is taking here.
yea i havent watched the past couple episodes because i used to dip while i watched em. i thought by day 8 ( which im on) i would be feeling better but damn its rough. Im probably going to take a visit to the doctors cause i all ready had depression and the stress of this quit on my body and mind is to much.
but yea i love walking dead
You will make it if that's what you want. As far as day 8, my days 8 9 were my worst days by far I went into a flying rage. If you want to talk about anxiety and depression there is a thread in the wildcard section. Your not alone with suffering these symptoms. Many of us self medicated our depression and anxiety with nicotine, or thought it helped. For me the nicotine actually made it worse and it took quite awhile to get to a 'normal' state. Take your quit minute by minute if that's what you need.
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Not sure how to post a link but I found this interesting, see below. This research has shown that the use of e-cigs did NOT improve the success rate of those wishing to quit smoking. Hmmmm. What a shock.
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/822 ... ac=50499MY (http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/822468?nlid=52403_2703&src=wnl_edit_dail&uac=50499MY)
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Not sure how to post a link but I found this interesting, see below. This research has shown that the use of e-cigs did NOT improve the success rate of those wishing to quit smoking. Hmmmm. What a shock.
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/822 ... ac=50499MY (http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/822468?nlid=52403_2703&src=wnl_edit_dail&uac=50499MY)
i actually read the same thing on yahoo...i've posted my 2 cents in the "comments" section. i think some of ya'll would be proud of the quit propaganda i am trying to spread...even dropped a ktc link in there. hopefully we'll get a few new members who don't like being slaves to nic
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Just watched a dude get his ass chewed for dipping in the shop today, he doesn't want to quit, and it's the 3rd time he has had his job threatened, all because of a disgusting little shit weed.
DAMN it feels good to be QUIT!
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Just watched a dude get his ass chewed for dipping in the shop today, he doesn't want to quit, and it's the 3rd time he has had his job threatened, all because of a disgusting little shit weed.
DAMN it feels good to be QUIT!
If you like the guy, tell him KTC works. If you can't stand him, tell him KTC works and to go screw himself. lol I figure even my enemies need to quit. I work retail and I agree, it feels awesome not to worry about the lip terd
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Hi to all you quitters! Just took a moment to come back to KTC as it has been a LOOOOONG time since I posted on this amazing site. My quit date is 12 August 2011 and that puts me at 958 days with out the nic bitch. Why I'm back........had a scare with mouth cancer in the fall of 2013.......turns out it is severe dysplasia on my tongue but had to go through a surgery to remove/anaylize it........worst pain in my life. They basically fileted my tongue from the side......stitches popped out too early and my tongue basically started to turn itself inside out. 2 weeks out of work......unreal. Anyway turned out ok......have to go back for scheduled monitoring but no cancer. All this because I dipped for those years. Even after all this......yesterday was a bitch day at work and I started thinking about picking up a can at the PX during lunch! The fight never ends guys!!!!! Came back to KTC today and posted with all my quit buddies from 2011........almost fell yesterday but thanks to KTC I'll keep myself quit!!!!!
Thanks for listening guys!
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E - Poison (http://hereandnow.wbur.org/2014/03/25/ecigs-poison-risk)
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Cautiously optimistic...
http://www.whackthepack.com/2014/03/res ... of-cancer/ (http://www.whackthepack.com/2014/03/researchers-find-treatment-that-kills-every-kind-of-cancer/)
#FuckCancer
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Cautiously optimistic...
http://www.whackthepack.com/2014/03/res ... of-cancer/ (http://www.whackthepack.com/2014/03/researchers-find-treatment-that-kills-every-kind-of-cancer/)
#FuckCancer
This would be amazing !! I hope it does what they say it does!
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E-Cigs study says they don't help quit nicotine (http://time.com/36090/study-e-cigarettes-do-not-help-people-quit-smoking/)
I just saw this study dissected by the masses, and the arguments are shifting quickly. While studies are starting to poke holes in the theory that e-cigs are effective cessation devices, the argument is being tossed aside with anecdotal evidence ("I know a guy", "I'm slowly decreasing my nicotine percentage", etc) and claims of harm reduction.
Here, at the KTC, we have a no nicotine policy (in any form). Harm reduction is not a treatment. It is a trick. Moist tobacco (dip) was sold under the same guise in the 70s and 80s, and look around: There isn't a person that hasn't been harmed by it here. Changing vehicles does not change the driver. Addicts will abuse a drug.
At the Smokeless Summit in August, I spoke to a representative at the FDA after listening to many "experts" claim that we are "under-medicating our patients" and asking the states to protect their funding for nicotine cessation aids over support groups such as ours. One of the points she made to me is that the product needs to declare its usage, and be treated either as a cessation aid or as a nicotine product. (Right now, it wants it both ways.) If it is a cessation device, studies need to be conducted affirming this. If it is a nicotine vehicle, it needs to be regulated like tobacco products. E-Cigs cannot promote use of a nicotine product and claim quitting benefits as well. It's a catch-22.
The battle's just begun folks. The shift to smokeless tobacco users has begun, and I'm sure we're going to start seeing these "quitters" here. As an admin here stated to me:
I look at it like this - this site is about breaking the chains of addiction to nicotine, with an emphasis on chewing tobacco as the delivery medium.
If "e-cigs" which contain nicotine, is brought up here as part of someone's quit plan - they do not meet our purpose and goal as stated above and are not to be considered quit. We have never advocated "harm reduction" or NRT's in any form. You all know that - same drug, different delivery method. Argue all they want, that ain't changing. Anyone arguing they are quit and can post roll while using e-cigs should be kindly, gently told to fuck off same as those using the patch, gum, lozenges, etc.
There's a simple, yet sometimes not easy, way to quit: Post roll. Keep your word. Repeat. Don't over think this.
We can do this.
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E-Cigs study says they don't help quit nicotine (http://time.com/36090/study-e-cigarettes-do-not-help-people-quit-smoking/)
I just saw this study dissected by the masses, and the arguments are shifting quickly. While studies are starting to poke holes in the theory that e-cigs are effective cessation devices, the argument is being tossed aside with anecdotal evidence ("I know a guy", "I'm slowly decreasing my nicotine percentage", etc) and claims of harm reduction.
Here, at the KTC, we have a no nicotine policy (in any form). Harm reduction is not a treatment. It is a trick. Moist tobacco (dip) was sold under the same guise in the 70s and 80s, and look around: There isn't a person that hasn't been harmed by it here. Changing vehicles does not change the driver. Addicts will abuse a drug.
At the Smokeless Summit in August, I spoke to a representative at the FDA after listening to many "experts" claim that we are "under-medicating our patients" and asking the states to protect their funding for nicotine cessation aids over support groups such as ours. One of the points she made to me is that the product needs to declare its usage, and be treated either as a cessation aid or as a nicotine product. (Right now, it wants it both ways.) If it is a cessation device, studies need to be conducted affirming this. If it is a nicotine vehicle, it needs to be regulated like tobacco products. E-Cigs cannot promote use of a nicotine product and claim quitting benefits as well. It's a catch-22.
The battle's just begun folks. The shift to smokeless tobacco users has begun, and I'm sure we're going to start seeing these "quitters" here. As an admin here stated to me:
I look at it like this - this site is about breaking the chains of addiction to nicotine, with an emphasis on chewing tobacco as the delivery medium.
If "e-cigs" which contain nicotine, is brought up here as part of someone's quit plan - they do not meet our purpose and goal as stated above and are not to be considered quit. We have never advocated "harm reduction" or NRT's in any form. You all know that - same drug, different delivery method. Argue all they want, that ain't changing. Anyone arguing they are quit and can post roll while using e-cigs should be kindly, gently told to fuck off same as those using the patch, gum, lozenges, etc.
There's a simple, yet sometimes not easy, way to quit: Post roll. Keep your word. Repeat. Don't over think this.
We can do this.
I can't stand listening to Rush about this issue and smoking in general.
He's a slave, and ignorant.
Freedom rules.
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E-Cigs study says they don't help quit nicotine (http://time.com/36090/study-e-cigarettes-do-not-help-people-quit-smoking/)
I just saw this study dissected by the masses, and the arguments are shifting quickly. While studies are starting to poke holes in the theory that e-cigs are effective cessation devices, the argument is being tossed aside with anecdotal evidence ("I know a guy", "I'm slowly decreasing my nicotine percentage", etc) and claims of harm reduction.
Here, at the KTC, we have a no nicotine policy (in any form). Harm reduction is not a treatment. It is a trick. Moist tobacco (dip) was sold under the same guise in the 70s and 80s, and look around: There isn't a person that hasn't been harmed by it here. Changing vehicles does not change the driver. Addicts will abuse a drug.
At the Smokeless Summit in August, I spoke to a representative at the FDA after listening to many "experts" claim that we are "under-medicating our patients" and asking the states to protect their funding for nicotine cessation aids over support groups such as ours. One of the points she made to me is that the product needs to declare its usage, and be treated either as a cessation aid or as a nicotine product. (Right now, it wants it both ways.) If it is a cessation device, studies need to be conducted affirming this. If it is a nicotine vehicle, it needs to be regulated like tobacco products. E-Cigs cannot promote use of a nicotine product and claim quitting benefits as well. It's a catch-22.Â
The battle's just begun folks. The shift to smokeless tobacco users has begun, and I'm sure we're going to start seeing these "quitters" here. As an admin here stated to me:
I look at it like this - this site is about breaking the chains of addiction to nicotine, with an emphasis on chewing tobacco as the delivery medium.
If "e-cigs" which contain nicotine, is brought up here as part of someone's quit plan - they do not meet our purpose and goal as stated above and are not to be considered quit. We have never advocated "harm reduction" or NRT's in any form. You all know that - same drug, different delivery method. Argue all they want, that ain't changing. Anyone arguing they are quit and can post roll while using e-cigs should be kindly, gently told to fuck off same as those using the patch, gum, lozenges, etc.
There's a simple, yet sometimes not easy, way to quit: Post roll. Keep your word. Repeat. Don't over think this.
We can do this.
I can't stand listening to Rush about this issue and smoking in general.
He's a slave, and ignorant.
Freedom rules.
Rush? 'oh yeah'
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E-Cigs study says they don't help quit nicotine (http://time.com/36090/study-e-cigarettes-do-not-help-people-quit-smoking/)
I just saw this study dissected by the masses, and the arguments are shifting quickly. While studies are starting to poke holes in the theory that e-cigs are effective cessation devices, the argument is being tossed aside with anecdotal evidence ("I know a guy", "I'm slowly decreasing my nicotine percentage", etc) and claims of harm reduction.
Here, at the KTC, we have a no nicotine policy (in any form). Harm reduction is not a treatment. It is a trick. Moist tobacco (dip) was sold under the same guise in the 70s and 80s, and look around: There isn't a person that hasn't been harmed by it here. Changing vehicles does not change the driver. Addicts will abuse a drug.
At the Smokeless Summit in August, I spoke to a representative at the FDA after listening to many "experts" claim that we are "under-medicating our patients" and asking the states to protect their funding for nicotine cessation aids over support groups such as ours. One of the points she made to me is that the product needs to declare its usage, and be treated either as a cessation aid or as a nicotine product. (Right now, it wants it both ways.) If it is a cessation device, studies need to be conducted affirming this. If it is a nicotine vehicle, it needs to be regulated like tobacco products. E-Cigs cannot promote use of a nicotine product and claim quitting benefits as well. It's a catch-22.Â
The battle's just begun folks. The shift to smokeless tobacco users has begun, and I'm sure we're going to start seeing these "quitters" here. As an admin here stated to me:
I look at it like this - this site is about breaking the chains of addiction to nicotine, with an emphasis on chewing tobacco as the delivery medium.
If "e-cigs" which contain nicotine, is brought up here as part of someone's quit plan - they do not meet our purpose and goal as stated above and are not to be considered quit. We have never advocated "harm reduction" or NRT's in any form. You all know that - same drug, different delivery method. Argue all they want, that ain't changing. Anyone arguing they are quit and can post roll while using e-cigs should be kindly, gently told to fuck off same as those using the patch, gum, lozenges, etc.
There's a simple, yet sometimes not easy, way to quit: Post roll. Keep your word. Repeat. Don't over think this.
We can do this.
I can't stand listening to Rush about this issue and smoking in general.
He's a slave, and ignorant.
Freedom rules.
Rush? 'oh yeah'
No. RUSH! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3W7iKeQTXg) http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/s (http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/s)
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day 11. when does the knot/irritation feeling go away ? feels like däy 1 excëpt slighty ẅorse . How u guys doing ?
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day 11. when does the knot/irritation feeling go away ? feels like däy 1 excëpt slighty ẅorse . How u guys doing ?
crsrds 3 Today I resolve to get nicotine out of my system.
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day 11. when does the knot/irritation feeling go away ? feels like däy 1 excëpt slighty ẅorse . How u guys doing ?
crsrds 3 Today I resolve to get nicotine out of my system.
Um........
:huh:
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day 11. when does the knot/irritation feeling go away ? feels like däy 1 excëpt slighty ẅorse . How u guys doing ?
crsrds 3 Today I resolve to get nicotine out of my system.
Um........
:huh:
Day 3 is historically one of, if not the, worst days of the quit....I'm not sure what you mean by "the knot/irritation" feeling....I do know, I was affected by the fog for a month....I was convinced that was what "normal" felt like after a while. Thankfully, I was wrong.
BTW....The irritation (with life in general) from the quit will gradually lessen....Don't take it out on your wife, kids, or dogs (cats are optional ;) )...Come in here and vent...
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day 11. when does the knot/irritation feeling go away ? feels like däy 1 excëpt slighty ẅorse . How u guys doing ?
crsrds 3 Today I resolve to get nicotine out of my system.
Um........
:huh:
Day 3 is historically one of, if not the, worst days of the quit....I'm not sure what you mean by "the knot/irritation" feeling....I do know, I was affected by the fog for a month....I was convinced that was what "normal" felt like after a while. Thankfully, I was wrong.
BTW....The irritation (with life in general) from the quit will gradually lessen....Don't take it out on your wife, kids, or dogs (cats are optional ;) )...Come in here and vent...
The Day 11 and irritation/knot in stomach is what crsds misquoted from Verachiel below (see Date and Time Stamp: March 27, 2014 at 6:50 PM).
Crsds is saying he is on Day 3 (?) and determined to get nicotine out of his system. He posted roll in July 14. He posted Day 4 on roll.
No matter...still great info you guys throw out. :wub:
Crsds and Verachiel, Day 1 was by far the worst day for me. Nothing else even came close. Many days sucked but Day 1 sucked the worst. It is different for every quitter. As far as getting nicotine out of your system, it will metabolize and work its way out. Drink lots of water and/or pure cranberry juice. I'm not sure of the exact time it takes nicotine to be completely out of your body, as some sources say 3 days, others say trace amounts of nicotine stay in your body for 14 days. Probably differs for each person. I was still having some physical withdrawals at Day 14 but they were less intense than Days 1-3.
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Ever since I quit I've noticed a reoccurring issue that plagued me and discourages so many others. "How can I ever make this quit last forever? I've failed so many times in the past, I just don't think I can do this long term. So why suffer only to cave and return to my addiction." I fought this question longer than most do but eventually I realized one day at a time adds up and If I concentrate on now and face each challenge as it presents it's self I will remain in control. The message that is not new and nothing overwhelmingly earth shattering is what makes us successful; that's right, quit one day at a time!
I'm quit today with all of you.
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day 11. when does the knot/irritation feeling go away ? feels like däy 1 excëpt slighty ẅorse . How u guys doing ?
crsrds 3 Today I resolve to get nicotine out of my system.
Um........
:huh:
Day 3 is historically one of, if not the, worst days of the quit....I'm not sure what you mean by "the knot/irritation" feeling....I do know, I was affected by the fog for a month....I was convinced that was what "normal" felt like after a while. Thankfully, I was wrong.
BTW....The irritation (with life in general) from the quit will gradually lessen....Don't take it out on your wife, kids, or dogs (cats are optional ;) )...Come in here and vent...
The Day 11 and irritation/knot in stomach is what crsds misquoted from Verachiel below (see Date and Time Stamp: March 27, 2014 at 6:50 PM).
Crsds is saying he is on Day 3 (?) and determined to get nicotine out of his system. He posted roll in July 14. He posted Day 4 on roll.
No matter...still great info you guys throw out. :wub:
Crsds and Verachiel, Day 1 was by far the worst day for me. Nothing else even came close. Many days sucked but Day 1 sucked the worst. It is different for every quitter. As far as getting nicotine out of your system, it will metabolize and work its way out. Drink lots of water and/or pure cranberry juice. I'm not sure of the exact time it takes nicotine to be completely out of your body, as some sources say 3 days, others say trace amounts of nicotine stay in your body for 14 days. Probably differs for each person. I was still having some physical withdrawals at Day 14 but they were less intense than Days 1-3.
I think NOLAQ was thinking balloon knot
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day 11. when does the knot/irritation feeling go away ? feels like däy 1 excëpt slighty ẅorse . How u guys doing ?
crsrds 3 Today I resolve to get nicotine out of my system.
Um........
:huh:
Day 3 is historically one of, if not the, worst days of the quit....I'm not sure what you mean by "the knot/irritation" feeling....I do know, I was affected by the fog for a month....I was convinced that was what "normal" felt like after a while. Thankfully, I was wrong.
BTW....The irritation (with life in general) from the quit will gradually lessen....Don't take it out on your wife, kids, or dogs (cats are optional ;) )...Come in here and vent...
The Day 11 and irritation/knot in stomach is what crsds misquoted from Verachiel below (see Date and Time Stamp: March 27, 2014 at 6:50 PM).
Crsds is saying he is on Day 3 (?) and determined to get nicotine out of his system. He posted roll in July 14. He posted Day 4 on roll.
No matter...still great info you guys throw out. :wub:
Crsds and Verachiel, Day 1 was by far the worst day for me. Nothing else even came close. Many days sucked but Day 1 sucked the worst. It is different for every quitter. As far as getting nicotine out of your system, it will metabolize and work its way out. Drink lots of water and/or pure cranberry juice. I'm not sure of the exact time it takes nicotine to be completely out of your body, as some sources say 3 days, others say trace amounts of nicotine stay in your body for 14 days. Probably differs for each person. I was still having some physical withdrawals at Day 14 but they were less intense than Days 1-3.
I think NOLAQ was thinking balloon knot
Well I'm on day 2 and I got to admit... It's hard as hell when you go to hang out with all your friends and they all have big ol chaws in and the smell of griz green is almost over powering. I almost broke but I stayed strong and didn't give into the temptation. Not even when they tried to force it in my lip
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New Blog Post: Finding Your Quit In 2013
http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/01/find ... t-in-2013/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/01/finding-your-quit-in-2013/)
Well I'm on day 2 and I got to admit... It's hard as hell when you go to hang out with all your friends and they all have big ol chaws in and the smell of griz green is almost over powering. I almost broke but I stayed strong and didn't give into the temptation. Not even when they tried to force it in my lip
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New Blog Post: Finding Your Quit In 2013
http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/01/find ... t-in-2013/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/01/finding-your-quit-in-2013/)
Well I'm on day 2 and I got to admit... It's hard as hell when you go to hang out with all your friends and they all have big ol chaws in and the smell of griz green is almost over powering. I almost broke but I stayed strong and didn't give into the temptation. Not even when they tried to force it in my lip
So you are kicking that 10 can a day habit, huh? Your girlfriend quitting with you? Or is she still a 3 can a day girl?
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New Blog Post: Finding Your Quit In 2013
http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/01/find ... t-in-2013/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/01/finding-your-quit-in-2013/)
Well I'm on day 2 and I got to admit... It's hard as hell when you go to hang out with all your friends and they all have big ol chaws in and the smell of griz green is almost over powering. I almost broke but I stayed strong and didn't give into the temptation. Not even when they tried to force it in my lip
So you are kicking that 10 can a day habit, huh? Your girlfriend quitting with you? Or is she still a 3 can a day girl?
They tried to force a dip on you? Wow, you are painting one hell of a story.
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New Blog Post: Finding Your Quit In 2013
http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/01/find ... t-in-2013/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/01/finding-your-quit-in-2013/)
Well I'm on day 2 and I got to admit... It's hard as hell when you go to hang out with all your friends and they all have big ol chaws in and the smell of griz green is almost over powering. I almost broke but I stayed strong and didn't give into the temptation. Not even when they tried to force it in my lip
So you are kicking that 10 can a day habit, huh? Your girlfriend quitting with you? Or is she still a 3 can a day girl?
They tried to force a dip on you? Wow, you are painting one hell of a story.
I think Wampus must not be old enough to join the forum, your required to be 18. That sounds like some jr. High behavior. Those aren't friends!
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I second that. One day. I kept wondering how can I got the rest of my life fighting off the craves, and replacing that with something, anything, to get rid of it and take my mind off of it. Then I just stood there for a minute thinking of ALL the things I could appreciate, could do, could laugh at, actually use my brain to think about, etc. And in that time, I brewed up a man-size resistance to that particular crave and the Nic Bitch was down. And I was enjoying some music playing a game on my phone and enjoying my gum. QLF
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I second that. One day. I kept wondering how can I got the rest of my life fighting off the craves, and replacing that with something, anything, to get rid of it and take my mind off of it. Then I just stood there for a minute thinking of ALL the things I could appreciate, could do, could laugh at, actually use my brain to think about, etc. And in that time, I brewed up a man-size resistance to that particular crave and the Nic Bitch was down. And I was enjoying some music playing a game on my phone and enjoying my gum. QLF
I just found this forum and its seems to be a good support group, which is what I need. I've been trying to quit for a while now. I will go weeks without any chew then one day I say to myself "I'm just going to have one". After that I'm back at it. I'm 22, I started dipping about 3-4 years ago (wish I never would have started). I've decided I'm done. I'm sick of worrying about cancer and always being disappointed in myself every time I start back up. I have a bump on the inside of my gums that hurts a little it scares the shit out me. I haven't chewed today and don't plan to anymore. If you have any good advice for me, I'm open ears
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I second that. One day. I kept wondering how can I got the rest of my life fighting off the craves, and replacing that with something, anything, to get rid of it and take my mind off of it. Then I just stood there for a minute thinking of ALL the things I could appreciate, could do, could laugh at, actually use my brain to think about, etc. And in that time, I brewed up a man-size resistance to that particular crave and the Nic Bitch was down. And I was enjoying some music playing a game on my phone and enjoying my gum. QLF
I just found this forum and its seems to be a good support group, which is what I need. I've been trying to quit for a while now. I will go weeks without any chew then one day I say to myself "I'm just going to have one". After that I'm back at it. I'm 22, I started dipping about 3-4 years ago (wish I never would have started). I've decided I'm done. I'm sick of worrying about cancer and always being disappointed in myself every time I start back up. I have a bump on the inside of my gums that hurts a little it scares the shit out me. I haven't chewed today and don't plan to anymore. If you have any good advice for me, I'm open ears
Dberg, I am 40 and wish I had quit that young. Post roll call in Prehof July. Get involved here to keep your quit going past those humps. Its a matter of determination on daily basis. Every day we post roll and honor that word to those who hold us accountable. There are no excuses. You can never have just one. It doesnt work.
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Hey everyone. iM Matt. im at Day 1. This is the last Day 1 i want to have in my journey. Ive tried to quit but always went back to the addiction thinking i was doing pretty good with a can every week. I find myself worrying about my health all the time and finally i just thought- this is bullshit. Why let a can run my life. Im 24 years old and i have a beautiful wife and 3 year old who need me. I think the last straw was my 3 year old telling my wife that i took him to the "poop" store (tobacco store). Its time for a change and im ready. thanks for any support.
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Hey everyone. iM Matt. im at Day 1. This is the last Day 1 i want to have in my journey. Ive tried to quit but always went back to the addiction thinking i was doing pretty good with a can every week. I find myself worrying about my health all the time and finally i just thought- this is bullshit. Why let a can run my life. Im 24 years old and i have a beautiful wife and 3 year old who need me. I think the last straw was my 3 year old telling my wife that i took him to the "poop" store (tobacco store). Its time for a change and im ready. thanks for any support.
hey matt...go to the welcome center link, read read read, learn how to post roll and go post day 1 in the July group. You've made a great choice to tackle this shit today. And keep that word in mind...TODAY....today you quit...worry about tomorrow morning when it comes. Go to the introduction page and introduce yourself to the gang and jump in head first....pm if you need anything
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New Blog Post: 19,000 Members And A New Forum On The Horizon
http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/04/1900 ... e-horizon/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/04/19000-members-and-a-new-forum-on-the-horizon/)
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Hey everyone. iM Matt. im at Day 1. This is the last Day 1 i want to have in my journey. Ive tried to quit but always went back to the addiction thinking i was doing pretty good with a can every week. I find myself worrying about my health all the time and finally i just thought- this is bullshit. Why let a can run my life. Im 24 years old and i have a beautiful wife and 3 year old who need me. I think the last straw was my 3 year old telling my wife that i took him to the "poop" store (tobacco store). Its time for a change and im ready. thanks for any support.
hey matt...go to the welcome center link, read read read, learn how to post roll and go post day 1 in the July group. You've made a great choice to tackle this shit today. And keep that word in mind...TODAY....today you quit...worry about tomorrow morning when it comes. Go to the introduction page and introduce yourself to the gang and jump in head first....pm if you need anything
Welcome friend. Quit for you. Not your wife. Not the kid. Only for you.
You can do this. You MUST do this. You have no choice.
Roll Call....Every damned day.
Shout if you need anything.
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New Blog Post: 19,000 Members And A New Forum On The Horizon
http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/04/1900 ... e-horizon/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/04/19000-members-and-a-new-forum-on-the-horizon/)
I uncovered some information about the KTC system upgrade that will take place tomorrow. Check out these new user options! (https://app.box.com/s/rl96b9w7r4upbn7k1jv1)
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New Blog Post: 19,000 Members And A New Forum On The Horizon
http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/04/1900 ... e-horizon/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/04/19000-members-and-a-new-forum-on-the-horizon/)
I uncovered some information about the KTC system upgrade that will take place tomorrow. Check out these new user options! (https://app.box.com/s/rl96b9w7r4upbn7k1jv1)
'crackup'
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New Blog Post: Roll Call For Friday April 4th, 2014
http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/04/roll ... -4th-2014/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/04/roll-call-for-friday-april-4th-2014/)
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A lot of people are posting roll whenever the heck they feel like it. I am calling on everyone to hold these guys accountable. We quit all damn day here at KTC. A lot of new quitters are after dinner quitters. That ain't gonna cut it.
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A lot of people are posting roll whenever the heck they feel like it. I am calling on everyone to hold these guys accountable. We quit all damn day here at KTC. A lot of new quitters are after dinner quitters. That ain't gonna cut it.
THIS X 1,000,000
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Welcome to the new forums - as we explore the new software, please let us know if there are issues you run across and we'll try to address them.
Thanks!
chewie
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Welcome to the new forums - as we explore the new software, please let us know if there are issues you run across and we'll try to address them.
Thanks!
chewie
Looking good! Starting to feel back at home again. Thanks for everything!
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Welcome to the new forums - as we explore the new software, please let us know if there are issues you run across and we'll try to address them.
Thanks!
chewie
Looking good! Starting to feel back at home again. Thanks for everything!
Yes Chewie, thanks to all of you for your hard work in giving us a free place like this to do what we do!
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Welcome to the new forums - as we explore the new software, please let us know if there are issues you run across and we'll try to address them.
Thanks!
chewie
Looking good! Starting to feel back at home again. Thanks for everything!
Yes Chewie, thanks to all of you for your hard work in giving us a free place like this to do what we do!
The boards seem fubarred. If I post, I either want tmy post at the beginning or or the end. Now I find I post somewhere in the middle. People don't know where or how to post anymore, and the boards are getting more hosed up as we move along.
Take Alcohol Quit Group, April 2011, or April 2012 as three examples.
Help?
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Welcome to the new forums - as we explore the new software, please let us know if there are issues you run across and we'll try to address them.
Thanks!
chewie
Looking good! Starting to feel back at home again. Thanks for everything!
Yes Chewie, thanks to all of you for your hard work in giving us a free place like this to do what we do!
The boards seem fubarred. If I post, I either want tmy post at the beginning or or the end. Now I find I post somewhere in the middle. People don't know where or how to post anymore, and the boards are getting more hosed up as we move along.
Take Alcohol Quit Group, April 2011, or April 2012 as three examples.
Help?
Yep - our host is working through our request to get things back the way they were which is not native to this board (or most Internet forums). Working through it now.
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OK - here's the latest... host was working through some of our requests (to make things work the way they did previously where the most recent post will show up at the top of the page). That's not the way the software (and most forum software these days) are intended to work, and it caused some issues (as many of you have seen).
So... we've reverted to the standard for THIS board (where topics will read from oldest to newest). At this point ALL topics / forums should be working like this.
If you go into PREFERENCES BOARD SETTINGS TOPIC VIEWING PREFERENCE make sure this is set to GO TO FIRST UNREAD POST IN A TOPIC.
With this setting, the FIRST time you go into a thread you'll see the oldest thread... on subsequent visits, you'll jump to any post that's been made since the last time you visited.
We'll continue to work through the topic ordering... Thanks for your patience during this transition. We anticipated these types of issues with a massive move like we've done.
I know some people don't like or understand the change, but it comes down to a couple of things:- Security - the software that we were running was 10 years old. There were a slew of security gaps, etc. that have been fixed here.
- SPAM - we were getting on the order of 40-90 SPAM registrations per day prior to the move. Since we've migrated we've gotten 0. We take SPAM very seriously and the mod/admin team work very hard to keep it off your screen. This has been a huge win for the team.
- Speed - these boards (after the initial move) are MUCH faster than our previous version.
- Scalability - as we continue to grow (we're not slowing down) we needed a platform that would handle us... we've got one.
- Mobile / Tablet - previous board was simply not set up to handle the development that was necessary to handle mobile traffic, apps, etc. This one is. Once we get these initial issues out of the way we're going to focus on the mobile experience (TapaTalk, etc.)
Thanks again for your patience during this process.... it's very much appreciated.
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New Blog Post: An Update To Holt Tobacco Free Herbal Snuff
http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/04/an-u ... bal-snuff/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/04/an-update-to-holt-tobacco-free-herbal-snuff/)
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OK - here's the latest... host was working through some of our requests (to make things work the way they did previously where the most recent post will show up at the top of the page). That's not the way the software (and most forum software these days) are intended to work, and it caused some issues (as many of you have seen).
So... we've reverted to the standard for THIS board (where topics will read from oldest to newest). At this point ALL topics / forums should be working like this.
If you go into PREFERENCES BOARD SETTINGS TOPIC VIEWING PREFERENCE make sure this is set to GO TO FIRST UNREAD POST IN A TOPIC.
With this setting, the FIRST time you go into a thread you'll see the oldest thread... on subsequent visits, you'll jump to any post that's been made since the last time you visited.
We'll continue to work through the topic ordering... Thanks for your patience during this transition. We anticipated these types of issues with a massive move like we've done.
I know some people don't like or understand the change, but it comes down to a couple of things:- Security - the software that we were running was 10 years old. There were a slew of security gaps, etc. that have been fixed here.
- SPAM - we were getting on the order of 40-90 SPAM registrations per day prior to the move. Since we've migrated we've gotten 0. We take SPAM very seriously and the mod/admin team work very hard to keep it off your screen. This has been a huge win for the team.
- Speed - these boards (after the initial move) are MUCH faster than our previous version.
- Scalability - as we continue to grow (we're not slowing down) we needed a platform that would handle us... we've got one.
- Mobile / Tablet - previous board was simply not set up to handle the development that was necessary to handle mobile traffic, apps, etc. This one is. Once we get these initial issues out of the way we're going to focus on the mobile experience (TapaTalk, etc.)
Thanks again for your patience during this process.... it's very much appreciated.
And if you don't want to read all those pesky messages that were made since the last time you clicked on a thread, use the END key on your keyboard. This will take you to the bottom and you can verify that you are on the last page.
And thank you again for everything!
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OK - here's the latest... host was working through some of our requests (to make things work the way they did previously where the most recent post will show up at the top of the page). That's not the way the software (and most forum software these days) are intended to work, and it caused some issues (as many of you have seen).
So... we've reverted to the standard for THIS board (where topics will read from oldest to newest). At this point ALL topics / forums should be working like this.
If you go into PREFERENCES BOARD SETTINGS TOPIC VIEWING PREFERENCE make sure this is set to GO TO FIRST UNREAD POST IN A TOPIC.
With this setting, the FIRST time you go into a thread you'll see the oldest thread... on subsequent visits, you'll jump to any post that's been made since the last time you visited.
We'll continue to work through the topic ordering... Thanks for your patience during this transition. We anticipated these types of issues with a massive move like we've done.
I know some people don't like or understand the change, but it comes down to a couple of things:- Security - the software that we were running was 10 years old. There were a slew of security gaps, etc. that have been fixed here.
- SPAM - we were getting on the order of 40-90 SPAM registrations per day prior to the move. Since we've migrated we've gotten 0. We take SPAM very seriously and the mod/admin team work very hard to keep it off your screen. This has been a huge win for the team.
- Speed - these boards (after the initial move) are MUCH faster than our previous version.
- Scalability - as we continue to grow (we're not slowing down) we needed a platform that would handle us... we've got one.
- Mobile / Tablet - previous board was simply not set up to handle the development that was necessary to handle mobile traffic, apps, etc. This one is. Once we get these initial issues out of the way we're going to focus on the mobile experience (TapaTalk, etc.)
Thanks again for your patience during this process.... it's very much appreciated.
And if you don't want to read all those pesky messages that were made since the last time you clicked on a thread, use the END key on your keyboard. This will take you to the bottom and you can verify that you are on the last page.
And thank you again for everything!
Not digging on your, chewie. Just want to make sure we can post in the right way as we have before. I post role in a ton of places, and I was getting all kinds of confused. This makes sense (and is the way other boards work) so I'm cool with that.
Thanks for all you do to help support our Quit!
Quit on.
~Frazz
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Just checking to see that this is in fact an open thread...
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Just checking to see that this is in fact an open thread...
You better post roll if you wanna play on this playground, new guy. :blink:
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Just checking to see that this is in fact an open thread...
You better post roll if you wanna play on this playground, new guy. :blink:
See... now that's just plain funny.
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So if anyone is looking at this I have this: Laptop or pc... I go to my group or any group. My option is set to go to first unread post in a topic. I end up somewhere a couple of pages back in the middle of a page. So I hit the end key find where I want to be and hope to post roll. When I go back in it takes me to the last post. Why doesn't it take me to the last post at first? Also I am noting that participation is going down especially in the morning when it is better for most to post roll. Is that my imagination or is it because of the new site hiccups? Just askin...
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So if anyone is looking at this I have this: Laptop or pc... I go to my group or any group. My option is set to go to first unread post in a topic. I end up somewhere a couple of pages back in the middle of a page. So I hit the end key find where I want to be and hope to post roll. When I go back in it takes me to the last post. Why doesn't it take me to the last post at first? Also I am noting that participation is going down especially in the morning when it is better for most to post roll. Is that my imagination or is it because of the new site hiccups? Just askin...
i'll take a stab... with most forums (fora?) if i'm engaged in a discussion, like in the politics thread, i'd like to see what's happened since i last checked in. see who's calling me names and whatnot. so the default is to send me to the first post i haven't read. somehow my computer knows i last viewed post #1234 in that thread (or maybe that post #1234 was the last post in the thread when i last visited) so it sends me to post #1235. next time it will remember the thread ended at post #1247, etc. this is absolutely great in a medium to high volume discussion thread. just not so great for roll call.
but man don't toss your cookies or you'll be back to the beginning of every thread.
make sure you're on the last page when you post roll though or you're gonna bump some people!
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New Blog Post: New Flavors From Grinds – Peppermint Vanilla
http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/04/new- ... t-vanilla/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/04/new-flavors-from-grinds-peppermint-vanilla/)
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So if anyone is looking at this I have this: Laptop or pc... I go to my group or any group. My option is set to go to first unread post in a topic. I end up somewhere a couple of pages back in the middle of a page. So I hit the end key find where I want to be and hope to post roll. When I go back in it takes me to the last post. Why doesn't it take me to the last post at first? Also I am noting that participation is going down especially in the morning when it is better for most to post roll. Is that my imagination or is it because of the new site hiccups? Just askin...
i'll take a stab... with most forums (fora?) if i'm engaged in a discussion, like in the politics thread, i'd like to see what's happened since i last checked in. see who's calling me names and whatnot. so the default is to send me to the first post i haven't read. somehow my computer knows i last viewed post #1234 in that thread (or maybe that post #1234 was the last post in the thread when i last visited) so it sends me to post #1235. next time it will remember the thread ended at post #1247, etc. this is absolutely great in a medium to high volume discussion thread. just not so great for roll call.
but man don't toss your cookies or you'll be back to the beginning of every thread.
make sure you're on the last page when you post roll though or you're gonna bump some people!
Gotcha drome. Don't get me wrong. I am navigating pretty well on here, and do a lot of unbumping myself. I'll watch next time to see if it takes me to where I was the last time I was in a page... Still would be good if someone figured out how to let us go back to las post being at the top of the page and that's where you end up when you go in. Whatever...
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How do you delete a message from your inbox? I see reply and forward, but no delete. (using Firefox)
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How do you delete a message from your inbox? I see reply and forward, but no delete. (using Firefox)
Have to Archive it. Then go to Archive folder and select the messages. there you have the option to delete.
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How do you delete a message from your inbox? I see reply and forward, but no delete. (using Firefox)
Have to Archive it. Then go to Archive folder and select the messages. there you have the option to delete.
That'll do it. Thanks.
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so i don't know where exactly we put our thoughts down on the fake dip...i actually have started to enjoy it a bit, no biggie..spitfire hooch is tasty
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so i don't know where exactly we put our thoughts down on the fake dip...i actually have started to enjoy it a bit, no biggie..spitfire hooch is tasty
Hey Jay - you've got a couple options for places to chat about fake dip.
We've got a thread here in the Wildcard section: topic/1008194/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1008194/)
Additionally, you can leave a comment on the main site on the (in this case) Hooch Reviews page: http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/rev ... f-reviews/ (http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/reviews/hooch-snuff-reviews/)
And finally, if you'd like to write your own review just let me know and I'll get it added to the site!
chewie
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so i don't know where exactly we put our thoughts down on the fake dip...i actually have started to enjoy it a bit, no biggie..spitfire hooch is tasty
Hey Jay - you've got a couple options for places to chat about fake dip.
We've got a thread here in the Wildcard section: topic/1008194/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1008194/)
Additionally, you can leave a comment on the main site on the (in this case) Hooch Reviews page: http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/rev ... f-reviews/ (http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/reviews/hooch-snuff-reviews/)
And finally, if you'd like to write your own review just let me know and I'll get it added to the site!
chewie
thanks chewie!
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*poof*
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I just want to know some little things that I can do, after a meal or getting in my truck or tractor, or stepping on that ball field to help me from freaking out.
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I just want to know some little things that I can do, after a meal or getting in my truck or tractor, or stepping on that ball field to help me from freaking out.
For many folks, fake dip is the way the scratch that itch in those cases: http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/smo ... ernatives/ (http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/smokeless-alternatives/)
If that's "too close" for you, sunflower sees, gum, etc. will go a long way.
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I just want to know some little things that I can do, after a meal or getting in my truck or tractor, or stepping on that ball field to help me from freaking out.
For many folks, fake dip is the way the scratch that itch in those cases: http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/smo ... ernatives/ (http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/smokeless-alternatives/)
If that's "too close" for you, sunflower sees, gum, etc. will go a long way.
What ^^^ he said.
I used fake dip like it was my job for the first couple hundred days or so. I also had seeds, coffee grinds, tea bags, basically anything I could find without nicotine in it. All that matters is that you keep from stuffing your face with cat turd.
I was a Copenhagen guy for 20+ years. My personal preference was Hooch Spitfire for fake stuff. I also really like Oregon Mint Snuff pouches. I liked to have a little 'bite' in my cheek, but that was just me.
Stay strong. Stay Quit.
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Need some advice from the vets out there! I am just over 60 days quit. I have been having dreams that I am dipping, pretty much every night for the last 2 weeks. This has happened on and off since I quit but, has become more consistant recently. Anyone else have this experience? I am trying to figure out when this was most intense in other people's quit and when it will start to go away. Sometimes the dream feels so real, when I wake up I feel bad, like I caved! Any thoughts would be appreciate!
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Need some advice from the vets out there! I am just over 60 days quit. I have been having dreams that I am dipping, pretty much every night for the last 2 weeks. This has happened on and off since I quit but, has become more consistant recently. Anyone else have this experience? I am trying to figure out when this was most intense in other people's quit and when it will start to go away. Sometimes the dream feels so real, when I wake up I feel bad, like I caved! Any thoughts would be appreciate!
The Cave Dream.
I get them every now and then. They feel very, very real. For me, they never were a constant thing, just random.
All I can tell you is, your body is throwing a temper tantrum. That's what the dreams are about. Subconsciously, your brain is still asking for it's fix.
Be strong. They pass, and become few and far between.
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Need some advice from the vets out there! I am just over 60 days quit. I have been having dreams that I am dipping, pretty much every night for the last 2 weeks. This has happened on and off since I quit but, has become more consistant recently. Anyone else have this experience? I am trying to figure out when this was most intense in other people's quit and when it will start to go away. Sometimes the dream feels so real, when I wake up I feel bad, like I caved! Any thoughts would be appreciate!
The Cave Dream.
I get them every now and then. They feel very, very real. For me, they never were a constant thing, just random.
All I can tell you is, your body is throwing a temper tantrum. That's what the dreams are about. Subconsciously, your brain is still asking for it's fix.
Be strong. They pass, and become few and far between.
Thanks for the advice. Yeah, hopefully this is a short lived trend. It definitely shows you how dependent you really were! It is a good feeling when you realize you didn't cave. So I guess that's a positive.
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My name is Rich, started dipping at age 12, daily can an a half habit since I was 14, so 33+years. I've quit because my 10year old daughter wants me around a long time and because it was just "time". I quit on Sunday 4/20, on 4th full day without tobacco. In the past I had tried hypnosis and nicotine patches, gum never made it past day 1. I am using the smokey mountain herbal snuff. and it seems to help. Got a few questions for those of you who have been where I am.
Yesterday, day 3 was the worst. When is this going to get easier?
I am having pain in my jaw, pallette, neck and tongue. Like I have been chewing all day long. Is this normal?
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My name is Rich, started dipping at age 12, daily can an a half habit since I was 14, so 33+years. I've quit because my 10year old daughter wants me around a long time and because it was just "time". I quit on Sunday 4/20, on 4th full day without tobacco. In the past I had tried hypnosis and nicotine patches, gum never made it past day 1. I am using the smokey mountain herbal snuff. and it seems to help. Got a few questions for those of you who have been where I am.
Yesterday, day 3 was the worst. When is this going to get easier?
I am having pain in my jaw, pallette, neck and tongue. Like I have been chewing all day long. Is this normal?
yes. yes.
Also, read all you can on the site, Rich. There is gold in these posts. They are all written by people that have gone through EXACTLY what you are going through. They know it's possible to win. Listen to them. I'd suggest you start in the INTRODUCTION section, then go to WORDS OF WISDOM, and maybe some HOF speeches. If you like what you read, post roll with us, take off that leash, and change your damned life. If you want much better opinions than just mine, post an introduction in this section. (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/55574/)
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Hello everyone. I too quit chewing on 4/20/14 after 30 years. I am using chantix, I think it is helping because, I have tried many times to quit but never lasted more than 2 days. So far so good, day 3 was bad, but they are starting to get better. I am using gum, jaw breakers and smokey mountain at the moment. I have been reading a lot of posts on here and I do find it a little disheartening to hear so many long time quitters still have the cravings. I guess I spent half my life getting this habit, it will take the last half to get over it. Anyways I will keep you posted on my progress and maybe lean on you when times get tough. Mike
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just officially joined yesterday. want to say thanks for building and mainting this online community. It's important and needed and helpful. been dipping since I was 17 or 18. so 23 years or so. ridiculous. pathetic. stupid. are the first words that come to mind. stupid might be the most appropriate. I actually did quit for a year from June 2006 - June 2007 when my dentist found "something" in one of my submandibular glands. FUCK. turned out to be a stone that was surgically removed. so I became weak again and succumbing to the Bear. I also quit for about 5 weeks late last year (2013). so I have it in me somewhere. I must admit. I like. I really like it. I typically have one on the way home from work and then stay up late so I can have one in peace by myself at night. it is possibly the one thing I look forward to the most. that is sad, considering I have 3 young kids. and THAT ... THEY are who I'm quitting for but am going to need the help and support of all of you. - Does any of that sound familiar to anyone out there?? JMD
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This scares the shit out of me
Tony Gwynn, the Hall of Fame outfielder who 18 months ago blamed smokeless tobacco for a malignant growth inside his right cheek, was in his 13th hour of surgery Tuesday evening to remove a new cancerous tumor in the same spot.
According to Gwynn's wife, Alicia, doctors do not believe the cancer has spread outside of Gwynn's salivary gland. But she expects to know more after Tuesday's intricate surgery, in which she said five doctors would likely perform a nerve graft to preserve Gwynn's facial functions. The operation began at approximately 9:15 a.m. PT, and, as of 11 p.m. PT, the 51-year-old Gwynn was still in the operating room.
Tony told them to take [the malignant tumor] all out,'' Alicia Gwynn said Tuesday morning. "They said they may need to remove the facial nerve -- they might have to go a lot deeper. But he just told them to take it out. And if they do remove the facial nerve, they'll replace it with a nerve from his shoulder or his leg.
"Hopefully, his face will work fine; hopefully he'll be able to blink his eye. They said they will make his face as normal as they can -- and that it might be better than it was."
During the operation, which is being performed at the Moores Cancer Center at the University of California San Diego, doctors will conduct further biopsies of Gywnn's parotid gland, Alicia Gwynn said. She said if the cancer is localized, Gwynn should be able to return as San Diego State's baseball coach in about a month.
"Tony's very nervous,'' she said. "But once he's back on the field, he'll be fine.''
Tony Gwynn said he dipped smokeless tobacco inside his right cheek during his entire 20-year career with the San Diego Padres, and for another decade following that.
"I'm addicted," he has previously said of the habit.
Twice during his career, doctors found benign growths on the right side of his mouth, but Gwynn still kept dipping. Then, in August of 2010, a biopsy showed a malignant growth inside his mouth, and on Aug. 31, 2010, Gwynn had surgery to have most of it removed.
During that operation, doctors had peeled back the right side of his face and discovered that the malignant tumor was wrapped around one of his nerves.
That particular nerve controls the right side of his face, from his forehead to his eye to his mouth to his cheek. If doctors had removed the tumor entirely, the nerve would have been irreparably harmed and that side of his face would have been permanently paralyzed. He would never have been able to close his eye or eat without drooling.
Instead, the surgeons salvaged the nerve by leaving remnants of the tumor, hoping chemotherapy and radiation would clear the rest of the growth.
At the time, Gwynn's oncologist at Scripps Memorial Hospital, Dr. Prabhakar Tripuraneni, claimed there was no known link between smokeless tobacco and cancer of the parotid, the largest of the salivary glands. But the doctor acknowledged there had not been sufficient studies done to prove it one way or another.
At the time, Gwynn said "Of course it caused it ... I always dipped on my right side."
Since the 2010 operation, Gwynn has not used smokeless tobacco, instead opting for a safer, doctor-approved synthetic dip that he said "tasted awful." But in January, the cancer returned.
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This scares the shit out of me
Tony Gwynn, the Hall of Fame outfielder who 18 months ago blamed smokeless tobacco for a malignant growth inside his right cheek, was in his 13th hour of surgery Tuesday evening to remove a new cancerous tumor in the same spot.
According to Gwynn's wife, Alicia, doctors do not believe the cancer has spread outside of Gwynn's salivary gland. But she expects to know more after Tuesday's intricate surgery, in which she said five doctors would likely perform a nerve graft to preserve Gwynn's facial functions. The operation began at approximately 9:15 a.m. PT, and, as of 11 p.m. PT, the 51-year-old Gwynn was still in the operating room.
Tony told them to take [the malignant tumor] all out,'' Alicia Gwynn said Tuesday morning. "They said they may need to remove the facial nerve -- they might have to go a lot deeper. But he just told them to take it out. And if they do remove the facial nerve, they'll replace it with a nerve from his shoulder or his leg.
"Hopefully, his face will work fine; hopefully he'll be able to blink his eye. They said they will make his face as normal as they can -- and that it might be better than it was."
During the operation, which is being performed at the Moores Cancer Center at the University of California San Diego, doctors will conduct further biopsies of Gywnn's parotid gland, Alicia Gwynn said. She said if the cancer is localized, Gwynn should be able to return as San Diego State's baseball coach in about a month.
"Tony's very nervous,'' she said. "But once he's back on the field, he'll be fine.''
Tony Gwynn said he dipped smokeless tobacco inside his right cheek during his entire 20-year career with the San Diego Padres, and for another decade following that.
"I'm addicted," he has previously said of the habit.
Twice during his career, doctors found benign growths on the right side of his mouth, but Gwynn still kept dipping. Then, in August of 2010, a biopsy showed a malignant growth inside his mouth, and on Aug. 31, 2010, Gwynn had surgery to have most of it removed.
During that operation, doctors had peeled back the right side of his face and discovered that the malignant tumor was wrapped around one of his nerves.
That particular nerve controls the right side of his face, from his forehead to his eye to his mouth to his cheek. If doctors had removed the tumor entirely, the nerve would have been irreparably harmed and that side of his face would have been permanently paralyzed. He would never have been able to close his eye or eat without drooling.
Instead, the surgeons salvaged the nerve by leaving remnants of the tumor, hoping chemotherapy and radiation would clear the rest of the growth.
At the time, Gwynn's oncologist at Scripps Memorial Hospital, Dr. Prabhakar Tripuraneni, claimed there was no known link between smokeless tobacco and cancer of the parotid, the largest of the salivary glands. But the doctor acknowledged there had not been sufficient studies done to prove it one way or another.
At the time, Gwynn said "Of course it caused it ... I always dipped on my right side."
Since the 2010 operation, Gwynn has not used smokeless tobacco, instead opting for a safer, doctor-approved synthetic dip that he said "tasted awful." But in January, the cancer returned.
You should be scared. Have you joined your quit group and posted roll yet?
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I tried to join a quit group and posted roll but can't quite figure out how and am not computer illerate. can you help?
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I tried to join a quit group and posted roll but can't quite figure out how and am not computer illerate. can you help?
I will try my best, I fucked it up the first time too
1. Go to quit groups
2. Click on July 2014 (I think that is your group if you quit yesterday)
3. Go to the last page and scroll to last post (most recent) there is a date on it
4. Hit the "quote" button at the bottom right of the post you are looking at
5. There is a bottom box with a bunch of text in it.
6. Put your cursor there and hit Cntrl A, to select all
7. Hit Cntrl X to cut all
8. Put your cursor in the top blank box and hit Cntrl V to copy everything
9. There is a line that says something like "new quitter place your name below.....
10. Type your screen name after the last guy in your group with what day you are on.
The bottom bunch of quitters are people not in your month that are supporting you.
Give it a try. There is also a video on you tube that shows how to do this, I probably should have told you about that first.
Good Luck. I will look for your post and fix it if you screw it up
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thanks. giving it a try now.
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thanks. giving it a try now.
You did it perfect. I left a message for you in your quit group. Good Job. DO THAT SAME EXACT THING EVERY DAY WITHOUT FAIL! I'm quitting with you today!
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New Blog Post: Cowboy Coffee Chew Major League Coffee Dip Reviews
http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/04/cowb ... p-reviews/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/04/cowboy-coffee-chew-major-league-coffee-dip-reviews/)
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New Blog Post: Cowboy Coffee Chew Major League Coffee Dip Reviews
http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/04/cowb ... p-reviews/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/04/cowboy-coffee-chew-major-league-coffee-dip-reviews/)
Anyone struggling, don't use smokey mountain shit, order this.... Nic Quit (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJrZ3OxlzuM)
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The little man in me is looking forward to my next dip... a simple reward system for myself without actually needing to work hard for my disgusting gift to myself. My days revolved around smoking marijuana and chewing. I quit smoking weed 2 weeks ago.. now its time to rid myself of putting a turd in my mouth! I'm going to the gym today.. part of my self improvement but I know I will never fully feel confident in myself until I put the can as far away from me as possible. Luckily I do not know people who chew so being around it will not be an issue.. it is the same battle I had with marijuana.. terrified of withdrawl.. but I can handle 3 to 5 days of pain vs. mouth cancer and throat irritation! Anyone else have sores in there throat? Mine is from Reflux disease which is exhaserbated by copengagen! That was a purposeful misspelling!
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The little man in me is looking forward to my next dip... a simple reward system for myself without actually needing to work hard for my disgusting gift to myself. My days revolved around smoking marijuana and chewing. I quit smoking weed 2 weeks ago.. now its time to rid myself of putting a turd in my mouth! I'm going to the gym today.. part of my self improvement but I know I will never fully feel confident in myself until I put the can as far away from me as possible. Luckily I do not know people who chew so being around it will not be an issue.. it is the same battle I had with marijuana.. terrified of withdrawl.. but I can handle 3 to 5 days of pain vs. mouth cancer and throat irritation! Anyone else have sores in there throat? Mine is from Reflux disease which is exhaserbated by copengagen! That was a purposeful misspelling!
Ya brother, I have the acid reflux... Have had it as long as I dipped. I never got sores in my throat... Has the acid burned the tissue to the point where you have sores in your throat? That's brutal. I understand that the constant acid bath of reflux above the sphincter muscle can also lead to mutations that cause esophageal cancer. And nic does cause the sphincter muscle to relax.....
I am quit, day 28. It's more than a few days of pain, but each day after about 4 it gets easier and easier. It is no easy task to quit a multi decade addiction, but the one day at a time approach and the accountability system on the forums WILL give you the tools to be quit IF YOU ARE READY. If so, read everything you can find on killthecan.org web page. You will learn what to expect, what everyone has gone thru before you. Then get over to the forums and make an intro and post roll call. There are a bunch of people on those forums who will help you thru it,mane you will he'll them thru their quit as we'll..
So if YOU are ready, throw all of your dip away and join Us in the quit groups.
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'bang head' -- That about sums it up, a whole 3 hours into day 2 and I feel like i took a right hook in the jaw from Mayweather. This sucks. I am thankful I can't leave work b/c a stop at the gas stations is sounding really good right now. When I was reading about what it would be like to quit I didn't understand what ya'al meant by the fog... I get it now. Is there anything I can do besides slamming Red Bulls to try to wake myself up? I need to be productive today and so far I am not feeling it one bit.
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'bang head' -- That about sums it up, a whole 3 hours into day 2 and I feel like i took a right hook in the jaw from Mayweather. This sucks. I am thankful I can't leave work b/c a stop at the gas stations is sounding really good right now. When I was reading about what it would be like to quit I didn't understand what ya'al meant by the fog... I get it now. Is there anything I can do besides slamming Red Bulls to try to wake myself up? I need to be productive today and so far I am not feeling it one bit.
Been there. Done it, brother. This part sucks.
What can you do? A number of things - drink shit loads of water. I don't know about Red Bull. Chew on a straw, toothpick, pen, whatever. Go for a walk. Get a stress ball. Come in here an bitch it out. You can do anything except - a) pack your face with cat turd, and b) rage on non-users. It's not thier fault. Rage on us. We get it.
If you don't have anyone's number, PM me and you got mine.
Stick it out. It gets better.
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New Blog Post: Cowboy Coffee Chew Major League Coffee Dip Reviews
http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/04/cowb ... p-reviews/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/04/cowboy-coffee-chew-major-league-coffee-dip-reviews/)
Anyone struggling, don't use smokey mountain shit, order this.... Nic Quit (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJrZ3OxlzuM)
Mt, thanks man I spit coffee all over my 'puter. :D
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'bang head' -- That about sums it up, a whole 3 hours into day 2 and I feel like i took a right hook in the jaw from Mayweather. This sucks. I am thankful I can't leave work b/c a stop at the gas stations is sounding really good right now. When I was reading about what it would be like to quit I didn't understand what ya'al meant by the fog... I get it now. Is there anything I can do besides slamming Red Bulls to try to wake myself up? I need to be productive today and so far I am not feeling it one bit.
The fog is unreal. You'll be okay man, you can do this. I just went through Day 2 and all that fog. Hell, I had hallucinations, for real that was no joke. My wife told me at the end of Day 3, you were like a whole different person. She told me I scared the hell out of her. Easy on the Red Bulls. Caffeine is not a good idea to be slamming down. Water and lot's of it. I bought a huge bag of jerky. I'd chew some up and then slide some in my lip for a while. You got this.
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Hey Folks, I've been getting a lot of this...
"Your request timed out. Please retry the request."
It comes up often during roll as well as just viewing all the wildcahd shenanigan section. It doesn't seem to effect the posting but it requires a prompt to resend the form and what not. Any thoughts?
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Hey Folks, I've been getting a lot of this...
"Your request timed out. Please retry the request."
It comes up often during roll as well as just viewing all the wildcahd shenanigan section. It doesn't seem to effect the posting but it requires a prompt to resend the form and what not. Any thoughts?
Hey man - I've seen this quite a few times lately as well. I THINK it has to do with the DOS attack (denial of service) that our host has been dealing with recently. This isn't specific to OUR forum, but all forums on the server. I've opened a support ticket with them. I'll let you know if I hear anything specific.
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Any other Google + users out there? If so, we've just opened a KTC community page: https://plus.google.com/communities/101 ... 9648308197 (https://plus.google.com/communities/101816651889648308197)
Hope to see you there!
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All, one major improvement in the new forum is that it tells you if someone is already posting before you post over top of them. Before you click on "Quote" look to the left side below that post, it will say how many users are viewing and then right below that if someone is posting it shares that as well. So this is a perfect case of slowing down a little bit to go faster.
Carry on...
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New Blog Post: Ode to Day 79 – Quitters Helping Quitters
http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/05/ode- ... -quitters/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/05/ode-to-day-79-quitters-helping-quitters/)
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Hey Folks, I've been getting a lot of this...
"Your request timed out. Please retry the request."
It comes up often during roll as well as just viewing all the wildcahd shenanigan section. It doesn't seem to effect the posting but it requires a prompt to resend the form and what not. Any thoughts?
Hey man - I've seen this quite a few times lately as well. I THINK it has to do with the DOS attack (denial of service) that our host has been dealing with recently. This isn't specific to OUR forum, but all forums on the server. I've opened a support ticket with them. I'll let you know if I hear anything specific.
Thanks Chewie! I haven't had this problem again since the day after mentioning it. Thanks for looking in to it.
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Congrats Chewie on your new addition!!!
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Congrats Chewie on your new addition!!!
Thanks!
http://www.killthecan.org/?attachment_id=6464 (http://www.killthecan.org/?attachment_id=6464)
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Congrats Chewie on your new addition!!!
Thanks!
http://www.killthecan.org/?attachment_id=6464 (http://www.killthecan.org/?attachment_id=6464)
Congrats on your new family member.
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I need some expert witness been there done that testimony. I'm on day 4, day 5 starts at 11 pm ET. I quit a can a day and moderately heavy (maybe heavily moderate) alcohol use at the same time. Standard drinking would be 6 to 10 beers a night yes every one. Also at least a couple shots in the waning hours before bed. I know everyone is different but damn I was hoping I would be one of those 72 hour guys where I started to feel better. I'm guessing the combined alcohol/nicotene immediacy has my brain wondering WTF. I'm drinking plenty of water, gum of every flavor. My jaw muscles have never looked better.
What's the over/under on # of days until I get to phase 2? No danger here, still committed but I tend to meet expectations if I have an idea of the next goal. Not sure of the posting location protocol, please show me the way if in the wrong place.
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I need some expert witness been there done that testimony. I'm on day 4, day 5 starts at 11 pm ET. I quit a can a day and moderately heavy (maybe heavily moderate) alcohol use at the same time. Standard drinking would be 6 to 10 beers a night yes every one. Also at least a couple shots in the waning hours before bed. I know everyone is different but damn I was hoping I would be one of those 72 hour guys where I started to feel better. I'm guessing the combined alcohol/nicotene immediacy has my brain wondering WTF. I'm drinking plenty of water, gum of every flavor. My jaw muscles have never looked better.
What's the over/under on # of days until I get to phase 2? No danger here, still committed but I tend to meet expectations if I have an idea of the next goal. Not sure of the posting location protocol, please show me the way if in the wrong place.
Good questions, most dudes probably ask that stuff in the INTRODUCTION section. You'll get more replies there, I think. I'll head over and give my 2 cents.
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I need some expert witness been there done that testimony. I'm on day 4, day 5 starts at 11 pm ET. I quit a can a day and moderately heavy (maybe heavily moderate) alcohol use at the same time. Standard drinking would be 6 to 10 beers a night yes every one. Also at least a couple shots in the waning hours before bed. I know everyone is different but damn I was hoping I would be one of those 72 hour guys where I started to feel better. I'm guessing the combined alcohol/nicotene immediacy has my brain wondering WTF. I'm drinking plenty of water, gum of every flavor. My jaw muscles have never looked better.
What's the over/under on # of days until I get to phase 2? No danger here, still committed but I tend to meet expectations if I have an idea of the next goal. Not sure of the posting location protocol, please show me the way if in the wrong place.
Good questions, most dudes probably ask that stuff in the INTRODUCTION section. You'll get more replies there, I think. I'll head over and give my 2 cents.
Not to put a downer here, but I was worthless for the first couple hundred days.
But then one day.....I felt better. A LOT better, and it's been fucking GREAT ever since.
Patience. It will pass.
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So im 17 (underage I know)and I have been dipping for about a year now. I figured its time to quit before it gets any worse. I go through on weekdays about a can a day due to school and on weekends sometimes 2 cans a day. I have a half can in my pocket and i plan on dipping it all tonight and starting my journey to quit tomorrow. What are some ways i can get the urge to dip away. I love fishing and hunting but i always have a dip in when doing either so that could be hard and when i drive i always dip as well. Should i just push through it and take my mind through hell or are there any other ways you quitters have done. Thanks!
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First of all take it and throw it away and never put iot in your face again. Unfortunately you must be 18 to be here. There are many avenues for you, just not here till you are 18.
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hey chewie man i might have missed something but i can't seem to find that little section of celebration... you know so-and-so hits the hall, another guy-1 year, bad ass quitter - 6 years.
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hey chewie man i might have missed something but i can't seem to find that little section of celebration... you know so-and-so hits the hall, another guy-1 year, bad ass quitter - 6 years.
Hey man - it used to be at the bottom of the site. Now it's located here: calendar/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/calendar/) (link on the top of the forum for calendar)
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Hello everyone Newbie checking onboard here. WOW I'm amazed of a website such as this. I have been chewing now for over 32 years and I'm ready to STOP since my previous attempts have failed/short lived. I've tried everything from hot sauce, pouches, chewing gum, toothpicks and so much more. I'm ready now..
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Hello everyone Newbie checking onboard here. WOW I'm amazed of a website such as this. I have been chewing now for over 32 years and I'm ready to STOP since my previous attempts have failed/short lived. I've tried everything from hot sauce, pouches, chewing gum, toothpicks and so much more. I'm ready now..
Welcome aboard my man! You're in the right place.
If you quit today, you're a part of the August 2014 Hall of Fame Class: topic/10225414/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/10225414/)
Head on over and get started!
Let me know how we can help!
Chewie
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I am an addict and can't stop. I came to Kill the Can way back when, oh, it must be about 9 years now, when a group from another quit site established this site. I was in ACORD. Then I caved after over a year. Since then, I have been a serial caver. I have since re-joined several times after and failed in my quit. I am a serial caver. Let me tell you that it's not any better on this side, being a serial caver. I am weak and ashamed that I can't do this.
I know that I would not be welcome back to any pre-HOF groups, as well as it should be. I am going to do a self pre-HOF myself and take it day by day. My chances of success are slim. I have made it to the fourth floor twice and failed. I have no business asking for support of any one here. I let all the people in the many groups that I was with down. I cannot support them. In fact, the admins here may choose to delete this post and banish me from the site. I can understand that. Hopefully that doesnt happen so I can use all of the resources of this site and all that I think I have learned about caving, and serial caving to stop.
I remember when I was quit, and just driving by c-stores. I loved that feeling. I don't know if I'll be able to do it. The odds are against me. But, I have to do it for me. Maybe that's what it takes.
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I am an addict and can't stop. I came to Kill the Can way back when, oh, it must be about 9 years now, when a group from another quit site established this site. I was in ACORD. Then I caved after over a year. Since then, I have been a serial caver. I have since re-joined several times after and failed in my quit. I am a serial caver. Let me tell you that it's not any better on this side, being a serial caver. I am weak and ashamed that I can't do this.
I know that I would not be welcome back to any pre-HOF groups, as well as it should be. I am going to do a self pre-HOF myself and take it day by day. My chances of success are slim. I have made it to the fourth floor twice and failed. I have no business asking for support of any one here. I let all the people in the many groups that I was with down. I cannot support them. In fact, the admins here may choose to delete this post and banish me from the site. I can understand that. Hopefully that doesnt happen so I can use all of the resources of this site and all that I think I have learned about caving, and serial caving to stop.
I remember when I was quit, and just driving by c-stores. I loved that feeling. I don't know if I'll be able to do it. The odds are against me. But, I have to do it for me. Maybe that's what it takes.
You still don't get it.
Cut the mamby pamby whoa is me nonsense and grow a pair and quit....over at quitsmokeless.org.
For any new folks here, do not waste a single bit of effort on this guy.
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I am an addict and can't stop. I came to Kill the Can way back when, oh, it must be about 9 years now, when a group from another quit site established this site. I was in ACORD. Then I caved after over a year. Since then, I have been a serial caver. I have since re-joined several times after and failed in my quit. I am a serial caver. Let me tell you that it's not any better on this side, being a serial caver. I am weak and ashamed that I can't do this.
I know that I would not be welcome back to any pre-HOF groups, as well as it should be. I am going to do a self pre-HOF myself and take it day by day. My chances of success are slim. I have made it to the fourth floor twice and failed. I have no business asking for support of any one here. I let all the people in the many groups that I was with down. I cannot support them. In fact, the admins here may choose to delete this post and banish me from the site. I can understand that. Hopefully that doesnt happen so I can use all of the resources of this site and all that I think I have learned about caving, and serial caving to stop.
I remember when I was quit, and just driving by c-stores. I loved that feeling. I don't know if I'll be able to do it. The odds are against me. But, I have to do it for me. Maybe that's what it takes.
You still don't get it.
Cut the mamby pamby whoa is me nonsense and grow a pair and quit....over at quitsmokeless.org.
For any new folks here, do not waste a single bit of effort on this guy.
Stephen, that was some of the weakest shit I ever read. You're defeated before you even begin. If you had any balls you'd be quit for 9 years now and a legend on this site. Instead you're nutless, and are a shit stain on the site.
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I'm looking at commemorative coins and chips in the KTC store and wonder what "QSXtreme" means?*
*Nevermind...I think I found the answer myself: quit smokeless extreme.
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I'm looking at commemorative coins and chips in the KTC store and wonder what "QSXtreme" means?*
*Nevermind...I think I found the answer myself: quit smokeless extreme.
Here's some site history:
topic/1003193/8/?x=35#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1003193/8/?x=35#new)
Ol Stephen above needs to go to QSL.
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I'm looking at commemorative coins and chips in the KTC store and wonder what "QSXtreme" means?*
*Nevermind...I think I found the answer myself: quit smokeless extreme.
Yep... it's an homage to our roots.
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I'm looking at commemorative coins and chips in the KTC store and wonder what "QSXtreme" means?*
*Nevermind...I think I found the answer myself: quit smokeless extreme.
Here's some site history:
topic/1003193/8/?x=35#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1003193/8/?x=35#new)
Ol Stephen above needs to go to QSL.
So; I take it QSL is this site's name for quitsmokeless.org (the one that has an advertisement for Nicorette on their home page)? I feel very lucky that I found you guys instead of them!
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I'm looking at commemorative coins and chips in the KTC store and wonder what "QSXtreme" means?*
*Nevermind...I think I found the answer myself: quit smokeless extreme.
Here's some site history:
topic/1003193/8/?x=35#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1003193/8/?x=35#new)
Ol Stephen above needs to go to QSL.
So; I take it QSL is this site's name for quitsmokeless.org (the one that has an advertisement for Nicorette on their home page)? I feel very lucky that I found you guys instead of them!
Werd.
Thanks to the old dudes who started this place.
Thanks to all of the members who hold each other accountable each day, who accept nothing less than giving and KEEPING your word each day and who make this journey a little easier by sharing their stories and quit wisdom.
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I'm looking at commemorative coins and chips in the KTC store and wonder what "QSXtreme" means?*
*Nevermind...I think I found the answer myself: quit smokeless extreme.
Here's some site history:
topic/1003193/8/?x=35#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1003193/8/?x=35#new)
Ol Stephen above needs to go to QSL.
So; I take it QSL is this site's name for quitsmokeless.org (the one that has an advertisement for Nicorette on their home page)? I feel very lucky that I found you guys instead of them!
Werd.
Thanks to the old dudes who started this place.
Thanks to all of the members who hold each other accountable each day, who accept nothing less than giving and KEEPING your word each day and who make this journey a little easier by sharing their stories and quit wisdom.
X2.
There are other sites out there fo' sho', but NONE of them have the traffic, number of members, comraderie, or SUCCESS that this place does.
Period.
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I am an addict and can't stop. I came to Kill the Can way back when, oh, it must be about 9 years now, when a group from another quit site established this site. I was in ACORD. Then I caved after over a year. Since then, I have been a serial caver. I have since re-joined several times after and failed in my quit. I am a serial caver. Let me tell you that it's not any better on this side, being a serial caver. I am weak and ashamed that I can't do this.
I know that I would not be welcome back to any pre-HOF groups, as well as it should be. I am going to do a self pre-HOF myself and take it day by day. My chances of success are slim. I have made it to the fourth floor twice and failed. I have no business asking for support of any one here. I let all the people in the many groups that I was with down. I cannot support them. In fact, the admins here may choose to delete this post and banish me from the site. I can understand that. Hopefully that doesnt happen so I can use all of the resources of this site and all that I think I have learned about caving, and serial caving to stop.
I remember when I was quit, and just driving by c-stores. I loved that feeling. I don't know if I'll be able to do it. The odds are against me. But, I have to do it for me. Maybe that's what it takes.
You still don't get it.
Cut the mamby pamby whoa is me nonsense and grow a pair and quit....over at quitsmokeless.org.
For any new folks here, do not waste a single bit of effort on this guy.
Guess you conveniently forgot you spent 330+ days in April 12 and i know for a fact you had my digits so get your shit straight - post your 3 answers and get busy quitting or get gone
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I am an addict and can't stop. I came to Kill the Can way back when, oh, it must be about 9 years now, when a group from another quit site established this site. I was in ACORD. Then I caved after over a year. Since then, I have been a serial caver. I have since re-joined several times after and failed in my quit. I am a serial caver. Let me tell you that it's not any better on this side, being a serial caver. I am weak and ashamed that I can't do this.
I know that I would not be welcome back to any pre-HOF groups, as well as it should be. I am going to do a self pre-HOF myself and take it day by day. My chances of success are slim. I have made it to the fourth floor twice and failed. I have no business asking for support of any one here. I let all the people in the many groups that I was with down. I cannot support them. In fact, the admins here may choose to delete this post and banish me from the site. I can understand that. Hopefully that doesnt happen so I can use all of the resources of this site and all that I think I have learned about caving, and serial caving to stop.
I remember when I was quit, and just driving by c-stores. I loved that feeling. I don't know if I'll be able to do it. The odds are against me. But, I have to do it for me. Maybe that's what it takes.
You still don't get it.
Cut the mamby pamby whoa is me nonsense and grow a pair and quit....over at quitsmokeless.org.
For any new folks here, do not waste a single bit of effort on this guy.
Guess you conveniently forgot you spent 330+ days in April 12 and i know for a fact you had my digits so get your shit straight - post your 3 answers and get busy quitting or get gone
I was wondering why I got dooshbumps today driving home....
Stevie, I remember you....you didn't do shit in the Glass House. We even came looking for you once or twice. But you always hid in the basement by yourself (your "self pre HOF"). Always by yourself. Then, you decided to wander AGAIN....right back to the Well of Shame and Death. In this thread I always see either 1. badass quitters offering help to newbs or 2. newbs ready to take back their lives. You are neither.
V 863.
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New Blog Post: Ode To Day 80 – Reading Through Intros
http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/05/ode- ... gh-intros/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/05/ode-to-day-80-reading-through-intros/)
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Happy New Year quitters! Welcome to our newest members!!!
I quit 10 days ago and have already saved about $30 bucks. Long way to go, but hoping I end up saving a fortune, but saving my life is my goal!
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I am an addict and can't stop. I came to Kill the Can way back when, oh, it must be about 9 years now, when a group from another quit site established this site. I was in ACORD. Then I caved after over a year. Since then, I have been a serial caver. I have since re-joined several times after and failed in my quit. I am a serial caver. Let me tell you that it's not any better on this side, being a serial caver. I am weak and ashamed that I can't do this.
I know that I would not be welcome back to any pre-HOF groups, as well as it should be. I am going to do a self pre-HOF myself and take it day by day. My chances of success are slim. I have made it to the fourth floor twice and failed. I have no business asking for support of any one here. I let all the people in the many groups that I was with down. I cannot support them. In fact, the admins here may choose to delete this post and banish me from the site. I can understand that. Hopefully that doesnt happen so I can use all of the resources of this site and all that I think I have learned about caving, and serial caving to stop.
I remember when I was quit, and just driving by c-stores. I loved that feeling. I don't know if I'll be able to do it. The odds are against me. But, I have to do it for me. Maybe that's what it takes.
You still don't get it.
Cut the mamby pamby whoa is me nonsense and grow a pair and quit....over at quitsmokeless.org.
For any new folks here, do not waste a single bit of effort on this guy.
Guess you conveniently forgot you spent 330+ days in April 12 and i know for a fact you had my digits so get your shit straight - post your 3 answers and get busy quitting or get gone
I was wondering why I got dooshbumps today driving home....
Stevie, I remember you....you didn't do shit in the Glass House. We even came looking for you once or twice. But you always hid in the basement by yourself (your "self pre HOF"). Always by yourself. Then, you decided to wander AGAIN....right back to the Well of Shame and Death. In this thread I always see either 1. badass quitters offering help to newbs or 2. newbs ready to take back their lives. You are neither.
V 863.
WOW! I love it! No room for pity here, glad I joined!
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Happy New Year quitters! Welcome to our newest members!!!
I quit 10 days ago and have already saved about $30 bucks. Long way to go, but hoping I end up saving a fortune, but saving my life is my goal!
Hi and Welcome DL Mitchell--- the more you go all in here, the better your chances are to quit. Post roll every day in your class- August 2014. Read all you can on the site to learn about the addiction we are all fighting. And make friends- build out a network of accountability and support- that's critical! Two good ways to do that are 1- go to the Introductions section and start a threat about yourself, and keep a log of what you experience on that thread, and 2- try the chat. If this is a little confusing, try going to the Welcome Center first- in the upper left area of the webpage here.
Glad you are quitting with all of us here!
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Nice header, Roam.
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Nice header, Roam.
Indeed!
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New Words Of Wisdon Post: Memorial Day Reminder – Holiday Weekend = TEST
http://www.killthecan.org/memorial-day- ... kend-test/ (http://www.killthecan.org/memorial-day-reminder-holiday-weekend-test/)
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New Blog Post: Chili-Lime – New Flavor From Elicit Herbal Chew
http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/05/chil ... rbal-chew/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/05/chili-lime-new-flavor-from-elicit-herbal-chew/)
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New Blog Post: Knock It Off Alice! – Hooch Snuff KillTheCan.org
http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/05/knoc ... hecan-org/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/05/knock-it-off-alice-hooch-snuff-killthecan-org/)
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Tried and failed at this many times.
What's your best advice for making it through Day 1?
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Tried and failed at this many times.
What's your best advice for making it through Day 1?
Find a quit group.
Post roll.
Stop "trying".
Start "doing".
I'm not telling you it's easy... it's not. But it's 100% doable. You're no more addicted than anyone else here. There are thousands of folks who are MORE addicted than you are, chew more than you do, have more stress than you do, deal with more at work than you do, etc. And they're quit.
When you're ready... truly ready... we can help.
Welcome aboard. Make it happen. Grab freedom by the balls.
Chewie
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Nice header, Roam.
Thanks bro, did that last year though......oh, thats right, you were still on the phone with Microsoft trying to get an updated driver......
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Tried and failed at this many times.
What's your best advice for making it through Day 1?
Find a quit group.
Post roll.
Stop "trying".
Start "doing".
I'm not telling you it's easy... it's not. But it's 100% doable. You're no more addicted than anyone else here. There are thousands of folks who are MORE addicted than you are, chew more than you do, have more stress than you do, deal with more at work than you do, etc. And they're quit.
When you're ready... truly ready... we can help.
Welcome aboard. Make it happen. Grab freedom by the balls.
Chewie
X2
Stop making excuses and Quit. It took me 29+ years to finally commit to my Quit, and when I did, that was it.
Close the door on that bitch. She's a dirty whore.
Embrace freedom. We've walked the walk, and will do most anything to help you on your path.
Start by reading EVERYTHING here. There is more knowledge about this subject here, than anywhere else. Promise.
It ain't easy, but it's simple:
1. Post Roll EVERY day.
2. Keep your WORD.
3. Repeat.
It'll be the hardest thing you've ever done, but so, so worth it.
-Nolaq - Day 1,536
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Nice header, Roam.
Thanks bro, did that last year though......oh, thats right, you were still on the phone with Microsoft trying to get an updated driver......
...still have that fucking printer...
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Tried and failed at this many times.
What's your best advice for making it through Day 1?
Find a quit group.
Post roll.
Stop "trying".
Start "doing".
I'm not telling you it's easy... it's not. But it's 100% doable. You're no more addicted than anyone else here. There are thousands of folks who are MORE addicted than you are, chew more than you do, have more stress than you do, deal with more at work than you do, etc. And they're quit.
When you're ready... truly ready... we can help.
Welcome aboard. Make it happen. Grab freedom by the balls.
Chewie
X2
Stop making excuses and Quit. It took me 29+ years to finally commit to my Quit, and when I did, that was it.
Close the door on that bitch. She's a dirty whore.
Embrace freedom. We've walked the walk, and will do most anything to help you on your path.
Start by reading EVERYTHING here. There is more knowledge about this subject here, than anywhere else. Promise.
It ain't easy, but it's simple:
1. Post Roll EVERY day.
2. Keep your WORD.
3. Repeat.
It'll be the hardest thing you've ever done, but so, so worth it.
-Nolaq - Day 1,536
thas some goo poo poo right there
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Nice header, Roam.
Thanks bro, did that last year though......oh, thats right, you were still on the phone with Microsoft trying to get an updated driver......
...still have that fucking printer...
This exchange made me giggle.
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Tried and failed at this many times.
What's your best advice for making it through Day 1?
Find a quit group.
Post roll.
Stop "trying".
Start "doing".
I'm not telling you it's easy... it's not. But it's 100% doable. You're no more addicted than anyone else here. There are thousands of folks who are MORE addicted than you are, chew more than you do, have more stress than you do, deal with more at work than you do, etc. And they're quit.
When you're ready... truly ready... we can help.
Welcome aboard. Make it happen. Grab freedom by the balls.
Chewie
X2
Stop making excuses and Quit. It took me 29+ years to finally commit to my Quit, and when I did, that was it.
Close the door on that bitch. She's a dirty whore.
Embrace freedom. We've walked the walk, and will do most anything to help you on your path.
Start by reading EVERYTHING here. There is more knowledge about this subject here, than anywhere else. Promise.
It ain't easy, but it's simple:
1. Post Roll EVERY day.
2. Keep your WORD.
3. Repeat.
It'll be the hardest thing you've ever done, but so, so worth it.
-Nolaq - Day 1,536
thas some goo poo poo right there
Think your the only one that tried once or twice? You failed in the past doing it the same way over and over. Try something new, the KTC way. Holler at me and i'll help you.
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Here's an article which has him using during an interview in 2012.
http://www.post-gazette.com/business/te ... 1202260443 (http://www.post-gazette.com/business/technology/2012/02/26/Ex-pitcher-Curt-Schilling-s-still-got-game/stories/201202260443)
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New Blog Post: Pouch Preview: Grinds Vs. Teaza – Reviews By Sox2012
http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/06/pouc ... y-sox2012/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/06/pouch-preview-grinds-vs-teaza-reviews-by-sox2012/)
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No Drop in Smokeless Tobacco Use Among U.S. Workers: CDC
http://www.killthecan.org/no-drop-in-sm ... rkers-cdc/ (http://www.killthecan.org/no-drop-in-smokeless-tobacco-use-among-u-s-workers-cdc/)
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No Drop in Smokeless Tobacco Use Among U.S. Workers: CDC
http://www.killthecan.org/no-drop-in-sm ... rkers-cdc/ (http://www.killthecan.org/no-drop-in-smokeless-tobacco-use-among-u-s-workers-cdc/)
Sadly... there was quite a bit more to this post during the day today...
http://www.406northlane.com/blog/2014/0 ... o-be-made/ (http://www.406northlane.com/blog/2014/06/lessons-in-copyright-law-theres-money-to-be-made/)
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No Drop in Smokeless Tobacco Use Among U.S. Workers: CDC
http://www.killthecan.org/no-drop-in-sm ... rkers-cdc/ (http://www.killthecan.org/no-drop-in-smokeless-tobacco-use-among-u-s-workers-cdc/)
Sadly... there was quite a bit more to this post during the day today...
http://www.406northlane.com/blog/2014/0 ... o-be-made/ (http://www.406northlane.com/blog/2014/06/lessons-in-copyright-law-theres-money-to-be-made/)
SUCKS!!
I have to dance this dance around copyright quite a bit. If I can help you some, let me know- PM me, exchange numbers.
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No Drop in Smokeless Tobacco Use Among U.S. Workers: CDC
http://www.killthecan.org/no-drop-in-sm ... rkers-cdc/ (http://www.killthecan.org/no-drop-in-smokeless-tobacco-use-among-u-s-workers-cdc/)
Sadly... there was quite a bit more to this post during the day today...
http://www.406northlane.com/blog/2014/0 ... o-be-made/ (http://www.406northlane.com/blog/2014/06/lessons-in-copyright-law-theres-money-to-be-made/)
SUCKS!!
I have to dance this dance around copyright quite a bit. If I can help you some, let me know- PM me, exchange numbers.
Thank you sir!
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Has anyone seen or heard from WMCatty lately?!
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Has anyone seen or heard from WMCatty lately?!
Not I
LAST ACTIVITY: Feb 16 2014, 09:52 AM
Go get em folks!!!
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It's been 10 years today since Tom Kern passed away.
If you've never read his story, you owe it to yourself.
http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures ... rns-story/ (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/jenny-tom-kerns-story/)
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It's been 10 years today since Tom Kern passed away.
If you've never read his story, you owe it to yourself.
http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures ... rns-story/ (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/jenny-tom-kerns-story/)
RIP Tom.
A prayer for his family today.
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3300 big ones today. None more important than this one.
If you are lurking. Scared. Jump on in. It can be done. We can show you how. It won't be easy by any stretch...but it's managable.
Flush your stash...you know you want to. You know you need to.
Father's Day is tomorrow. What better gift for your children than to spend the day with a lickably clean dad?
Let's get it.
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3300 big ones today. None more important than this one.
If you are lurking. Scared. Jump on in. It can be done. We can show you how. It won't be easy by any stretch...but it's managable.
Flush your stash...you know you want to. You know you need to.
Father's Day is tomorrow. What better gift for your children than to spend the day with a lickably clean dad?
Let's get it.
It doesn't matter how many times I see it... "lickably clean" makes me shudder every... damn... time.
Hope you enjoyed your Dad's Day yesterday my man!
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Former MLB'er, Tony Gwyn dead at age 54, due to oral cancer. I think most of us know his history. If there's anyone out there thinking, "it won't happen to me", look no further. Safe to say he had more money and resources to battle the cancer than most of us, he still lost.
If your thinking of quitting, stop and do it now before it's too late.
You don't have to do it alone. We will help.
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Former MLB'er, Tony Gwyn dead at age 54, due to oral cancer. I think most of us know his history. If there's anyone out there thinking, "it won't happen to me", look no further. Safe to say he had more money and resources to battle the cancer than most of us, he still lost.
If your thinking of quitting, stop and do it now before it's too late.
You don't have to do it alone. We will help.
Horribly sad article that ran yesterday about him and his son (http://www.csnphilly.com/baseball-philadelphia-phillies/gwynn-men-sons-love-fathers-fight)
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Former MLB'er, Tony Gwyn dead at age 54, due to oral cancer. I think most of us know his history. If there's anyone out there thinking, "it won't happen to me", look no further. Safe to say he had more money and resources to battle the cancer than most of us, he still lost.
If your thinking of quitting, stop and do it now before it's too late.
You don't have to do it alone. We will help.
Horribly sad article that ran yesterday about him and his son (http://www.csnphilly.com/baseball-philadelphia-phillies/gwynn-men-sons-love-fathers-fight)
A news piece that ran on Gwynn on Apr 24, announcing that he was taking a leave from coaching due to his health issues, is what drove me to KTC and KTC is why I'm still quit today. This is shocking and really scary news. Sad as his passing is, I hope this jarring news (given that he dipped for so long it's not really all that shocking, right?) helps at least one person as it did me. If you're out there and reading this and thinking about or thinking you can't quit, let me tell you that you can. and you should.
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Former MLB'er, Tony Gwyn dead at age 54, due to oral cancer. I think most of us know his history. If there's anyone out there thinking, "it won't happen to me", look no further. Safe to say he had more money and resources to battle the cancer than most of us, he still lost.
If your thinking of quitting, stop and do it now before it's too late.
You don't have to do it alone. We will help.
Horribly sad article that ran yesterday about him and his son (http://www.csnphilly.com/baseball-philadelphia-phillies/gwynn-men-sons-love-fathers-fight)
A news piece that ran on Gwynn on Apr 24, announcing that he was taking a leave from coaching due to his health issues, is what drove me to KTC and KTC is why I'm still quit today. This is shocking and really scary news. Sad as his passing is, I hope this jarring news (given that he dipped for so long it's not really all that shocking, right?) helps at least one person as it did me. If you're out there and reading this and thinking about or thinking you can't quit, let me tell you that you can. and you should.
Hate how the doctors "won't confirm" it was related to dipping. Could really drive the message home further of they did, imo. Sad sad story, nonetheless.
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Former MLB'er, Tony Gwyn dead at age 54, due to oral cancer. I think most of us know his history. If there's anyone out there thinking, "it won't happen to me", look no further. Safe to say he had more money and resources to battle the cancer than most of us, he still lost.
If your thinking of quitting, stop and do it now before it's too late.
You don't have to do it alone. We will help.
Horribly sad article that ran yesterday about him and his son (http://www.csnphilly.com/baseball-philadelphia-phillies/gwynn-men-sons-love-fathers-fight)
A news piece that ran on Gwynn on Apr 24, announcing that he was taking a leave from coaching due to his health issues, is what drove me to KTC and KTC is why I'm still quit today. This is shocking and really scary news. Sad as his passing is, I hope this jarring news (given that he dipped for so long it's not really all that shocking, right?) helps at least one person as it did me. If you're out there and reading this and thinking about or thinking you can't quit, let me tell you that you can. and you should.
Hate how the doctors "won't confirm" it was related to dipping. Could really drive the message home further of they did, imo. Sad sad story, nonetheless.
If you're reading this with a fatty in, thinking about quitting - There is no better time than RIGHT NOW to dump your shit and get your Quit on.
We can help.
Stop killing yourself.
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Former MLB'er, Tony Gwyn dead at age 54, due to oral cancer. I think most of us know his history. If there's anyone out there thinking, "it won't happen to me", look no further. Safe to say he had more money and resources to battle the cancer than most of us, he still lost.
If your thinking of quitting, stop and do it now before it's too late.
You don't have to do it alone. We will help.
Horribly sad article that ran yesterday about him and his son (http://www.csnphilly.com/baseball-philadelphia-phillies/gwynn-men-sons-love-fathers-fight)
A news piece that ran on Gwynn on Apr 24, announcing that he was taking a leave from coaching due to his health issues, is what drove me to KTC and KTC is why I'm still quit today. This is shocking and really scary news. Sad as his passing is, I hope this jarring news (given that he dipped for so long it's not really all that shocking, right?) helps at least one person as it did me. If you're out there and reading this and thinking about or thinking you can't quit, let me tell you that you can. and you should.
Hate how the doctors "won't confirm" it was related to dipping. Could really drive the message home further of they did, imo. Sad sad story, nonetheless.
If you're reading this with a fatty in, thinking about quitting - There is no better time than RIGHT NOW to dump your shit and get your Quit on.
We can help.
Stop killing yourself.
No one is immune from cancer. Money, status, fame, and life itself are all fleeting. Flush your can(s) and get rolling. There is no time to lose. You can never be certain when that dip is going to cause that first cancer cell to sprout. Why waste your life?
~Quit on.
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Former MLB'er, Tony Gwyn dead at age 54, due to oral cancer. I think most of us know his history. If there's anyone out there thinking, "it won't happen to me", look no further. Safe to say he had more money and resources to battle the cancer than most of us, he still lost.
If your thinking of quitting, stop and do it now before it's too late.
You don't have to do it alone. We will help.
Horribly sad article that ran yesterday about him and his son (http://www.csnphilly.com/baseball-philadelphia-phillies/gwynn-men-sons-love-fathers-fight)
A news piece that ran on Gwynn on Apr 24, announcing that he was taking a leave from coaching due to his health issues, is what drove me to KTC and KTC is why I'm still quit today. This is shocking and really scary news. Sad as his passing is, I hope this jarring news (given that he dipped for so long it's not really all that shocking, right?) helps at least one person as it did me. If you're out there and reading this and thinking about or thinking you can't quit, let me tell you that you can. and you should.
Hate how the doctors "won't confirm" it was related to dipping. Could really drive the message home further of they did, imo. Sad sad story, nonetheless.
If you're reading this with a fatty in, thinking about quitting - There is no better time than RIGHT NOW to dump your shit and get your Quit on.
We can help.
Stop killing yourself.
No one is immune from cancer. Money, status, fame, and life itself are all fleeting. Flush your can(s) and get rolling. There is no time to lose. You can never be certain when that dip is going to cause that first cancer cell to sprout. Why waste your life?
~Quit on.
There but for the grace of KTC go I.
Thank you to all who post roll every day. It will be 5 years for me on Thursday. I could not have done it without you.
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Former MLB'er, Tony Gwyn dead at age 54, due to oral cancer. I think most of us know his history. If there's anyone out there thinking, "it won't happen to me", look no further. Safe to say he had more money and resources to battle the cancer than most of us, he still lost.
If your thinking of quitting, stop and do it now before it's too late.
You don't have to do it alone. We will help.
Horribly sad article that ran yesterday about him and his son (http://www.csnphilly.com/baseball-philadelphia-phillies/gwynn-men-sons-love-fathers-fight)
A news piece that ran on Gwynn on Apr 24, announcing that he was taking a leave from coaching due to his health issues, is what drove me to KTC and KTC is why I'm still quit today. This is shocking and really scary news. Sad as his passing is, I hope this jarring news (given that he dipped for so long it's not really all that shocking, right?) helps at least one person as it did me. If you're out there and reading this and thinking about or thinking you can't quit, let me tell you that you can. and you should.
Hate how the doctors "won't confirm" it was related to dipping. Could really drive the message home further of they did, imo. Sad sad story, nonetheless.
If you're reading this with a fatty in, thinking about quitting - There is no better time than RIGHT NOW to dump your shit and get your Quit on.
We can help.
Stop killing yourself.
No one is immune from cancer. Money, status, fame, and life itself are all fleeting. Flush your can(s) and get rolling. There is no time to lose. You can never be certain when that dip is going to cause that first cancer cell to sprout. Why waste your life?
~Quit on.
There but for the grace of KTC go I.
Thank you to all who post roll every day. It will be 5 years for me on Thursday. I could not have done it without you.
Ditto to everything said above. If I don't remember on Thursday, congrats on 5 single digits, vidocq. That's truly badass.
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New Blog Post: Rest In Peace Mr. Padre – Tony Gwynn Smokeless Tobacco
http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/06/rest ... s-tobacco/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/06/rest-in-peace-mr-padre-tony-gwynn-smokeless-tobacco/)
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Hi, my name is Trigger. I am a 32 year old male who has been dipping and smoking some since the age of sixteen. Dip was my primary weapon of choice, for the past six years I have been chewing two cans a day. I quit dipping the Monday after Easter of 2014, but eight weeks later I relapsed. So basically last week, but during those eight weeks I was smoking on average about six to eight Marlboro lights a day. I am going nicotine free as of tomorrow, and I have been looking at this site for about three months now. I finally have decided to join, and I hope with your guys help, and the good lord walking by my side I am going to overcome this habit of mine. My company for some reason blocks this website so the only way I will be able to check in during the day is by my cell phone. My work email is xxxxxxxxxxxx@.com, it will be easier for me to talk to people through that line of communication then the website during the day, since it is blocked.
*edit* posting contact on an open forum is potentially hazardous to your PC health spybots and trolls lurk
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Hi, my name is Trigger. I am a 32 year old male who has been dipping and smoking some since the age of sixteen. Dip was my primary weapon of choice, for the past six years I have been chewing two cans a day. I quit dipping the Monday after Easter of 2014, but eight weeks later I relapsed. So basically last week, but during those eight weeks I was smoking on average about six to eight Marlboro lights a day. I am going nicotine free as of tomorrow, and I have been looking at this site for about three months now. I finally have decided to join, and I hope with your guys help, and the good lord walking by my side I am going to overcome this habit of mine. My company for some reason blocks this website so the only way I will be able to check in during the day is by my cell phone. My work email is xxxxxxxxxxxx, it will be easier for me to talk to people through that line of communication then the website during the day, since it is blocked.
Welcome aboard trigger, first off, you didnt quit. You stopped, took a break, a hiatus, whatever....quit is for good. Secondly, we do not "hope" to overcome. We do it. By daily promising and keeping our word. Grab those balls and get ready for the suck. You have to want it, you have to stick with it in order to succeed. Just worry about today. Get through today. No matter what it takes.
P. S. Might not want to put your contact info out there for the world to see. Use the pm system for that. (and you never know what some od the creeps may send you 'winker' )
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Hi, my name is Trigger. I am a 32 year old male who has been dipping and smoking some since the age of sixteen. Dip was my primary weapon of choice, for the past six years I have been chewing two cans a day. I quit dipping the Monday after Easter of 2014, but eight weeks later I relapsed. So basically last week, but during those eight weeks I was smoking on average about six to eight Marlboro lights a day. I am going nicotine free as of tomorrow, and I have been looking at this site for about three months now. I finally have decided to join, and I hope with your guys help, and the good lord walking by my side I am going to overcome this habit of mine. My company for some reason blocks this website so the only way I will be able to check in during the day is by my cell phone. My work email is xxxxxxxxxxxx, it will be easier for me to talk to people through that line of communication then the website during the day, since it is blocked.
Welcome aboard trigger, first off, you didnt quit. You stopped, took a break, a hiatus, whatever....quit is for good. Secondly, we do not "hope" to overcome. We do it. By daily promising and keeping our word. Grab those balls and get ready for the suck. You have to want it, you have to stick with it in order to succeed. Just worry about today. Get through today. No matter what it takes.
P. S. Might not want to put your contact info out there for the world to see. Use the pm system for that. (and you never know what some od the creeps may send you 'winker' )
Good morning Trigger. Where you at?
Bring your shit, and let's get this thing done. You've waited long enough, and postponed too long.
PM me if you need help.
-Nolaq - Day 1,555
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I've had several folks over the years ask me about a KillTheCan.org email list. The wait is over.
Will be sending out a "newsletter" once a month(ish) with links, pics, quit stories, etc.
You can subscribe here: http://www.killthecan.org/killthecan-org-email-list/ (http://www.killthecan.org/killthecan-org-email-list/)
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Found this community a few months back - hopefully I can use it to get off this stuff.
I'm 25, had my first dip around age 17. For the past ~5 years I've dipped virtually every night before bed. I don't get cravings during the day and the only time I want to dip is as I'm going to sleep, but its a strong behavioral addiction. It feels really strange to not have my moment of relaxation with my Grizzly pouches as I'm laying in bed.
My non-doctor opinion would be that I'm more addicted to that moment of relaxation than I am to the actual nicotine. Over the years I've gradually increased the amount of pouches I put in during my nightly ritual. These days I'm up to 4-5 pouches.
When I'm at my girlfriend's place I have to slip off to the bathroom to have my dip. Sometimes I avoid going to her place just so I can have my dip in my own bed. I'm pissed that it controls me that much. Time to stop messing around and get off this stuff. I've had a few half ass quit attempts in the past couple years, but I am more serious this time around.
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Found this community a few months back - hopefully I can use it to get off this stuff.
I'm 25, had my first dip around age 17. For the past ~5 years I've dipped virtually every night before bed. I don't get cravings during the day and the only time I want to dip is as I'm going to sleep, but its a strong behavioral addiction. It feels really strange to not have my moment of relaxation with my Grizzly pouches as I'm laying in bed.
My non-doctor opinion would be that I'm more addicted to that moment of relaxation than I am to the actual nicotine. Over the years I've gradually increased the amount of pouches I put in during my nightly ritual. These days I'm up to 4-5 pouches.
When I'm at my girlfriend's place I have to slip off to the bathroom to have my dip. Sometimes I avoid going to her place just so I can have my dip in my own bed. I'm pissed that it controls me that much. Time to stop messing around and get off this stuff. I've had a few half ass quit attempts in the past couple years, but I am more serious this time around.
There's no "more serious". Either you are serious, or you are not.
I'm 35 years old and have been dipping Skoal Mint for 15 years. Last month, I was going through 2 can's of snuff a day. I weened myself down using hard candy and pouches, and had my last pouch yesterday at 7:30 PM. I logged my first roll call today. I am quitting for me. I am quitting because I want to see me two young daughters go to their first day of school. I am quitting so that I can teach my daughters how to drive. I am quitting because I want to walk my daughters down the aisle. I am quitting for me.
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Found this community a few months back - hopefully I can use it to get off this stuff.
I'm 25, had my first dip around age 17. For the past ~5 years I've dipped virtually every night before bed. I don't get cravings during the day and the only time I want to dip is as I'm going to sleep, but its a strong behavioral addiction. It feels really strange to not have my moment of relaxation with my Grizzly pouches as I'm laying in bed.
My non-doctor opinion would be that I'm more addicted to that moment of relaxation than I am to the actual nicotine. Over the years I've gradually increased the amount of pouches I put in during my nightly ritual. These days I'm up to 4-5 pouches.
When I'm at my girlfriend's place I have to slip off to the bathroom to have my dip. Sometimes I avoid going to her place just so I can have my dip in my own bed. I'm pissed that it controls me that much. Time to stop messing around and get off this stuff. I've had a few half ass quit attempts in the past couple years, but I am more serious this time around.
There's no "more serious". Either you are serious, or you are not.
I'm 35 years old and have been dipping Skoal Mint for 15 years. Last month, I was going through 2 can's of snuff a day. I weened myself down using hard candy and pouches, and had my last pouch yesterday at 7:30 PM. I logged my first roll call today. I am quitting for me. I am quitting because I want to see me two young daughters go to their first day of school. I am quitting so that I can teach my daughters how to drive. I am quitting because I want to walk my daughters down the aisle. I am quitting for me.
2 posts in... this guy fucking gets it.
Welcome to both of you!
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I am new to this site. I have posted roll the last 2 days and am almost 48 hours dip free. I am actually doing pretty well as far as not wanting to dip. I am too stubborn now that i have made my decision, and too pissed off that i let that shit control me for 11 years.
The part I am struggling with is my body is fucked. i cant sleep, i cant shit, i have a pounding headache, and feel very foggy. Also i have this fear that the damage is already done. Im scared I may have already fucked myself up. I dont have anything that looks wierd in my mouth or anything but ive had a sore throat for a few days and some swollen lymph nodes in my neck and im scared shitless of the worst case scenarios. Maybe part of it is my head is just a little messed off from the lack of nicotine...either way I will not go back. I will post roll every day and not let myself down, or my family, or anyone here. What i am wondering is if anyone else has had a similiar experience to the things i am struggling with right now? Any insight would be helpful and appreciated
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I am new to this site. I have posted roll the last 2 days and am almost 48 hours dip free. I am actually doing pretty well as far as not wanting to dip. I am too stubborn now that i have made my decision, and too pissed off that i let that shit control me for 11 years.
The part I am struggling with is my body is fucked. i cant sleep, i cant shit, i have a pounding headache, and feel very foggy. Also i have this fear that the damage is already done. Im scared I may have already fucked myself up. I dont have anything that looks wierd in my mouth or anything but ive had a sore throat for a few days and some swollen lymph nodes in my neck and im scared shitless of the worst case scenarios. Maybe part of it is my head is just a little messed off from the lack of nicotine...either way I will not go back. I will post roll every day and not let myself down, or my family, or anyone here. What i am wondering is if anyone else has had a similiar experience to the things i am struggling with right now? Any insight would be helpful and appreciated
Breathe.
Breathe again.
Anxiety. Depression. Freaking the fuck out. Not being able to put two words together in a coherent sentence. Being so pissed off at the fucking remote when it runs out of batteries. Hating the sound of your boss' nasal breathing. Not being able to sleep. Not hungry. Just want to drink 1000 gallons of fucking coffee, but you already have the shakes.
All of that is your body throwing a temper tantrum.
Put that shit in the corner and breathe. Your body is fucked right now, fo sho'. This will pass.
Suggestions: Drink an ass ton of water. Exercise. Do both of those a lot. Also, post just like you did. Go make your own Intro page. The support you get there will overwhelm you.
Welcome Paul. Best decision ever.
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I am new to this site. I have posted roll the last 2 days and am almost 48 hours dip free. I am actually doing pretty well as far as not wanting to dip. I am too stubborn now that i have made my decision, and too pissed off that i let that shit control me for 11 years.
The part I am struggling with is my body is fucked. i cant sleep, i cant shit, i have a pounding headache, and feel very foggy. Also i have this fear that the damage is already done. Im scared I may have already fucked myself up. I dont have anything that looks wierd in my mouth or anything but ive had a sore throat for a few days and some swollen lymph nodes in my neck and im scared shitless of the worst case scenarios. Maybe part of it is my head is just a little messed off from the lack of nicotine...either way I will not go back. I will post roll every day and not let myself down, or my family, or anyone here. What i am wondering is if anyone else has had a similiar experience to the things i am struggling with right now? Any insight would be helpful and appreciated
Get through the moment because it gets better....waaaaaay better.
We tortured our bodies for years, and the initial suck is well deserved but nasty. We're lucky it only lasts a few days until the poison is out of our systems. Once it is, you begin to heal.
Drink water (lots of it), and avoid caffeine as much as possible. And when I say water, I mean I want you to be unable to walk past a bathroom without stopping.
Exercise-run if you don't already. Do push-ups. The sweat pushes the poison out.
Make some friends here and read, read, and read! You have a whole band of brothers kicking themselves for the abuse they did on their bodies. Surely, you can find a common bond.
How many numbers you got?
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I am new to this site. I have posted roll the last 2 days and am almost 48 hours dip free. I am actually doing pretty well as far as not wanting to dip. I am too stubborn now that i have made my decision, and too pissed off that i let that shit control me for 11 years.
The part I am struggling with is my body is fucked. i cant sleep, i cant shit, i have a pounding headache, and feel very foggy. Also i have this fear that the damage is already done. Im scared I may have already fucked myself up. I dont have anything that looks wierd in my mouth or anything but ive had a sore throat for a few days and some swollen lymph nodes in my neck and im scared shitless of the worst case scenarios. Maybe part of it is my head is just a little messed off from the lack of nicotine...either way I will not go back. I will post roll every day and not let myself down, or my family, or anyone here. What i am wondering is if anyone else has had a similiar experience to the things i am struggling with right now? Any insight would be helpful and appreciated
Get through the moment because it gets better....waaaaaay better.
We tortured our bodies for years, and the initial suck is well deserved but nasty. We're lucky it only lasts a few days until the poison is out of our systems. Once it is, you begin to heal.
Drink water (lots of it), and avoid caffeine as much as possible. And when I say water, I mean I want you to be unable to walk past a bathroom without stopping.
Exercise-run if you don't already. Do push-ups. The sweat pushes the poison out.
Make some friends here and read, read, and read! You have a whole band of brothers kicking themselves for the abuse they did on their bodies. Surely, you can find a common bond.
How many numbers you got?
Nolaq and wastepanel...appreciate the advice. I did an intro page (i think anyways, not very tech savvy). Trying to figure out everything on here while being this irritable is a bad combo, but everyones advice and encouragement is helping me a lot as far as dealing with this hell of the first few days. Have been reading a ton and it helps. Will try more water...heading to take the dog for a run now
Ps you mean phone numbers?
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I am new to this site. I have posted roll the last 2 days and am almost 48 hours dip free. I am actually doing pretty well as far as not wanting to dip. I am too stubborn now that i have made my decision, and too pissed off that i let that shit control me for 11 years.
The part I am struggling with is my body is fucked. i cant sleep, i cant shit, i have a pounding headache, and feel very foggy. Also i have this fear that the damage is already done. Im scared I may have already fucked myself up. I dont have anything that looks wierd in my mouth or anything but ive had a sore throat for a few days and some swollen lymph nodes in my neck and im scared shitless of the worst case scenarios. Maybe part of it is my head is just a little messed off from the lack of nicotine...either way I will not go back. I will post roll every day and not let myself down, or my family, or anyone here. What i am wondering is if anyone else has had a similiar experience to the things i am struggling with right now? Any insight would be helpful and appreciated
Get through the moment because it gets better....waaaaaay better.
We tortured our bodies for years, and the initial suck is well deserved but nasty. We're lucky it only lasts a few days until the poison is out of our systems. Once it is, you begin to heal.
Drink water (lots of it), and avoid caffeine as much as possible. And when I say water, I mean I want you to be unable to walk past a bathroom without stopping.
Exercise-run if you don't already. Do push-ups. The sweat pushes the poison out.
Make some friends here and read, read, and read! You have a whole band of brothers kicking themselves for the abuse they did on their bodies. Surely, you can find a common bond.
How many numbers you got?
Nolaq and wastepanel...appreciate the advice. I did an intro page (i think anyways, not very tech savvy). Trying to figure out everything on here while being this irritable is a bad combo, but everyones advice and encouragement is helping me a lot as far as dealing with this hell of the first few days. Have been reading a ton and it helps. Will try more water...heading to take the dog for a run now
Ps you mean phone numbers?
Yes, I do mean phone numbers.
We've all been where you are, and we all walk the same path today. Some days, the path is easier to walk and some days...it's not.
Grab some numbers from your brothers, and hit up a few vets as well (poking you mine as soon as this is posted). Vets are awesome, but you got a ton of brothers that are going through the same shit you currently are. Stand back to back. If you protect, you'll be protected. There's a ton of good and interesting folks here.
I know it sucks now, but it gets to be fun. Laugh, and be glad. What you are doing is truly badass and nobody can tell you any different.
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Tony Gwynn, another reason to quit. It amazes me to see a increase in membership after the death or diagnosis of cancer of a public figure or someone we know personally. Over the decades of my addiction I had more of these scares than I can count and more planned quits than I want to think about. I sat with a friend and watched oral cancer literally eat his face away. Did I quit? No! I quit 40 or more New Years Days, birthdays, 33 wedding anniversaries, 30 birthdays of my daughter and had hundreds of other good intended attempts. I don't want to criticize anyone's reasons or motivation for quitting but I predict that the influx of Tony Gwynn motivated quitters will dwindle over the next few weeks. Addiction is a powerful motivation to continue dipping, our body acquired a stronger and stronger need to be satisfied with more and more nicotine. Until we as addicts finally get tired of being controlled and want to experience freedom it won't happen.
To be honest I still don't have the freedom I desire. Sure I've been nicotine free for 800+ days but I'm still not free of the occasional craving and dip thoughts. Being successful ODAAT leads to a level of self satisfaction that as an addict I never experienced.
May all of us addicts have the desire and strength to win against this powerful drug.
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So, apparently I'm a prick in the comments on the site. Certainly not my intention. Just passionate. http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/ask ... mment-3952 (http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/ask-the-experts-faq/whats-so-bad-about-smokeless-tobacco-its-not-as-bad-as-smoking-right/comment-page-1/#comment-3952)
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So, apparently I'm a prick in the comments on the site. Certainly not my intention. Just passionate. http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/ask ... mment-3952 (http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/ask-the-experts-faq/whats-so-bad-about-smokeless-tobacco-its-not-as-bad-as-smoking-right/comment-page-1/#comment-3952)
Haha, oh little Tyler.
I better THROW out an answer as well.
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So, apparently I'm a prick in the comments on the site. Certainly not my intention. Just passionate. http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/ask ... mment-3952 (http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/ask-the-experts-faq/whats-so-bad-about-smokeless-tobacco-its-not-as-bad-as-smoking-right/comment-page-1/#comment-3952)
Haha, oh little Tyler.
I better THROW out an answer as well.
This must be a conspiracy or something. You and wastepanel joining KTC 2 days apart? Are you trying to get everybody to quit? Meanies...... 'drool' I am quit for 275 days because of you guys by the way!!!!
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So, apparently I'm a prick in the comments on the site. Certainly not my intention. Just passionate. http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/ask ... mment-3952 (http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/ask-the-experts-faq/whats-so-bad-about-smokeless-tobacco-its-not-as-bad-as-smoking-right/comment-page-1/#comment-3952)
Haha, oh little Tyler.
I better THROW out an answer as well.
This must be a conspiracy or something. You and wastepanel joining KTC 2 days apart? Are you trying to get everybody to quit? Meanies...... 'drool' I am quit for 275 days because of you guys by the way!!!!
Sorry, couldn't help myself. 'embarrassed'
Fucking tool.
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So, apparently I'm a prick in the comments on the site. Certainly not my intention. Just passionate. http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/ask ... mment-3952 (http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/ask-the-experts-faq/whats-so-bad-about-smokeless-tobacco-its-not-as-bad-as-smoking-right/comment-page-1/#comment-3952)
Haha, oh little Tyler.
I better THROW out an answer as well.
This must be a conspiracy or something. You and wastepanel joining KTC 2 days apart? Are you trying to get everybody to quit? Meanies...... 'drool' I am quit for 275 days because of you guys by the way!!!!
Sorry, couldn't help myself. 'embarrassed'
Fucking tool.
Chewie you crazy statistician, the only real numbers that I see you throwing around is the number of quitters KTC has assisted. I'm glad Tyler had such an easy time quitting and that he is concerned his old man might be one of the "6". Cancer sucks no matter what the odds.
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Here you go, boys.
Don't say Nolaq never gave you nothin'! (http://trailmail.campmor.com/track?t=v&enid=ZWFzPTEmbWlkPTU0NTU3Jm1zZ2lkPTI5NTA2JmRpZD04MDQmZWRpZD04MDQmc249MTY3ODM2MjImZWlkPWRzcHJpbmdlckBiaGJ0LmNvbSAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgJmVlaWQ9ZHNwcmluZ2VyQGJoYnQuY29tICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAmdWlkPTFfMTg1MTEyJnJpZD0xODUxMTImZXJpZD0xODUxMTImZmw9Jm12aWQ9JnRnaWQ9JmV4dHJhPQ==&&&6630000&eu=1&&&http://www.campmor.com)
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New Blog Post: Instead Of An OdeÂ… Rap For Day 81!
http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/06/inst ... or-day-81/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/06/instead-of-an-ode-rap-for-day-81/)
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How's it going everyone. I guess this is as good a place as any to post. I'm 25 years old and have dipped skoal mint, straight, or grizzly wintergreen since I was 13. I was dipping at least a can a day for the last 8 years. Today I posted roll for the second time and it is my 3rd full day without any nicotine. I woke up and said "I don't want to do this anymore". I have a few cans of Baccoff wintergreen which helps a little with the oral fixation, but I'm pretty sure I just yelled at the milk carton for being too big. I'm freaking the fuck out. I have already apologized to my dog 40 times for yelling at him.
The reason I'm posting is because I want people to know my story and care that I make it. I don't want to just be another name on the roll. I can't do this alone. The temptation to get in the truck and go buy a can is killing me. Anyone have any help or words of wisdom (even if it's just "man the hell up" I'd greatly appreciate it.
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Hey guys I am 23 years old and have been chewing since I was 14. I quit chewing for two years at one point but about two years ago I started up again. This time I am ready to be done for good. I am so sick of fighting with my wife about it when finds one of my cans or a spitter this shit cant keep ruining everything for me. I have been quit for 3 days and today has been the hardest one yet. I feel like Im about to fucking snap. I keep having to apologize to my wife but she doesnt understand but I know you guys do. This is the hardest fucking thing ever but reading about so many of you guys kicking this it motivates me even more.
Res17cue
Dude I know how you feel man it looks like we are at the same point and I m here for you bro lets beat this shit.
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How's it going everyone. I guess this is as good a place as any to post. I'm 25 years old and have dipped skoal mint, straight, or grizzly wintergreen since I was 13. I was dipping at least a can a day for the last 8 years. Today I posted roll for the second time and it is my 3rd full day without any nicotine. I woke up and said "I don't want to do this anymore". I have a few cans of Baccoff wintergreen which helps a little with the oral fixation, but I'm pretty sure I just yelled at the milk carton for being too big. I'm freaking the fuck out. I have already apologized to my dog 40 times for yelling at him.
The reason I'm posting is because I want people to know my story and care that I make it. I don't want to just be another name on the roll. I can't do this alone. The temptation to get in the truck and go buy a can is killing me. Anyone have any help or words of wisdom (even if it's just "man the hell up" I'd greatly appreciate it.
Hey guys I am 23 years old and have been chewing since I was 14. I quit chewing for two years at one point but about two years ago I started up again. This time I am ready to be done for good. I am so sick of fighting with my wife about it when finds one of my cans or a spitter this shit cant keep ruining everything for me. I have been quit for 3 days and today has been the hardest one yet. I feel like Im about to fucking snap. I keep having to apologize to my wife but she doesnt understand but I know you guys do. This is the hardest fucking thing ever but reading about so many of you guys kicking this it motivates me even more.
Res17cue
Welcome you two. You have found the best place, the ONLY place to Quit. There is an umlimited amount of support, knowledge, and brotherhood here. With that, comes accountability. You should make connections here that will hold you to your word, and in turn, you need to look out for others.
I recommend (if you haven't already) posting in an Intro page.
Again, welcome. Best decision you ever made. If you need anything - a phone number, answer a question, a clean hooker, PM me.
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Going on day 4....can't stop eating. Seeing Tony Gwynn pass the other day at 54 really put things into perspective. My wife has always busted my chops about dipping but when we saw TG pass it really hit home. I had 3 dips left in my can told her this was my last can and here I am 4 days later...Keep up the good fight!
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So, apparently I'm a prick in the comments on the site. Certainly not my intention. Just passionate. http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/ask ... mment-3952 (http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/ask-the-experts-faq/whats-so-bad-about-smokeless-tobacco-its-not-as-bad-as-smoking-right/comment-page-1/#comment-3952)
Haha, oh little Tyler.
I better THROW out an answer as well.
This must be a conspiracy or something. You and wastepanel joining KTC 2 days apart? Are you trying to get everybody to quit? Meanies...... 'drool' I am quit for 275 days because of you guys by the way!!!!
Sorry, couldn't help myself. 'embarrassed'
Fucking tool.
Chewie you crazy statistician, the only real numbers that I see you throwing around is the number of quitters KTC has assisted. I'm glad Tyler had such an easy time quitting and that he is concerned his old man might be one of the "6". Cancer sucks no matter what the odds.
I love how this Tyler guy also doesn't see a whole other side to the quit. Tobacco affects your heart too. That's why I quit. History of heart issues in my family. I didn't want to stack the odds against myself anymore.
I am guessing it is not hard to do that "math" with statistician Chewie. Cancer and heart complications are the #1 #2 killers in the USA. Science has proven that tobacco and nicotine contribute to both of these health issues.... I'd rather not play with those kind of odds.... Science Bitch!
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Just threw the can in the compactor.
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Hi yesterday was my 1st day dip free after dipping for around 13-14 years,so here i sit day2 and it seems a bit rougher than day1 but I am comitted to the quit and this site is an amazing tool!
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Just threw the can in the compactor.
Fuck YEA!!!!!!!!
Let's do this brother. PM me if you need help.
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Quitting is catching on. (http://www.inc.com/jeff-haden/why-you-really-should-quit-more-often.html)
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Going on day 4....can't stop eating. Seeing Tony Gwynn pass the other day at 54 really put things into perspective. My wife has always busted my chops about dipping but when we saw TG pass it really hit home. I had 3 dips left in my can told her this was my last can and here I am 4 days later...Keep up the good fight!
Only one post? Come on man. Get in a group and post roll call. Get involved. Go here to figure out how it's done: forum/55560/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/55560/)
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Hi, my name is Ben. I'm 25 and have been chewing for approx 11 -12 years. I've lost 5 of my friends and my brother in law this year. All younger than me. I've had my last dip in after lunch this afternoon. Been thinking bout it for 2 months. Done research and feel like a huge block has lifted off me by finding this site. I don't want to die young. I have no clue where to start I've read all the starter blogs. I chewed a can to a can n half a day. Plz help!
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Hi, my name is Ben. I'm 25 and have been chewing for approx 11 -12 years. I've lost 5 of my friends and my brother in law this year. All younger than me. I've had my last dip in after lunch this afternoon. Been thinking bout it for 2 months. Done research and feel like a huge block has lifted off me by finding this site. I don't want to die young. I have no clue where to start I've read all the starter blogs. I chewed a can to a can n half a day. Plz help!
Welcome brother.
You are in the right place.
It's late so I can't write much.
Go to the Welcome Center. Read EVERYTHING.
Find October 2014 in the Quit Groups.
Post your promise not to dip today.
Keep your word.
Come back tomorrow and do it again.
My name is Nolaq. If I can do this. You can.
PM me if you get lost. We can help you find your way.
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24 years old been at it since I was 13. Have given up the tin multiple times on and off over the past 2-3 years and I am sick of it. I know I need to quit so today I am starting the quitting process again. Actually was doing some research this time and found this site. It is great to see a bunch of other people with the same problem. I know I can do this because anything is possible but I know it will be difficult. Thanks for the support already laid down prior to my arrival at this site. Y'all seem to be doing great things here and I am for some reason kind of excited to quit the chaw even though it has been my favorite thing in the world to do over the past decade. Hearing stories about guys getting cancer and dying (Tony Gwynn most recently) kind of flipped a desire to quit switch in my head so here I am. Moving to a new apartment on monday and will be working 12 hours shifts at a restaurant all weekend long so I will try to sleep or exercise as much as possible in between shifts to keep myself from dipping. Just so happens I recently made a dentist appointment for next week as well so hopefully they will be supportive of my quit. Hopefully the new living situation changes will help me get out of my routine of dipping and now I have somewhere to go when I struggle. Ill need all the help I can get.
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today I am starting the quitting process again.
You never quit before. Or you wouldn't be posting this.
Read the welcome center and post roll, get involved around here.
There are plenty of distractions to help you through the suck,
buckle up and enjoy the ride.
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today I am starting the quitting process again.
You never quit before. Or you wouldn't be posting this.
Read the welcome center and post roll, get involved around here.
There are plenty of distractions to help you through the suck,
buckle up and enjoy the ride.
I'm quit because of this ^^^ guy. Find some others in your group and get their #'s. Roam and I spent hours on the phone those first months encouraging each other and just providing a distraction. We're now at 800 days quit proving it works every day.
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today I am starting the quitting process again.
You never quit before. Or you wouldn't be posting this.
Read the welcome center and post roll, get involved around here.
There are plenty of distractions to help you through the suck,
buckle up and enjoy the ride.
I'm quit because of this ^^^ guy. Find some others in your group and get their #'s. Roam and I spent hours on the phone those first months encouraging each other and just providing a distraction. We're now at 800 days quit proving it works every day.
Serapis 1653 the number is real. One thousand six hundred fifty-three days without tobacco. You can do this, if life and love can make the difference.
today I am starting the quitting process again.
You never quit before. Or you wouldn't be posting this.
Read the welcome center and post roll, get involved around here.
There are plenty of distractions to help you through the suck,
buckle up and enjoy the ride.
I'm quit because of this ^^^ guy. Find some others in your group and get their #'s. Roam and I spent hours on the phone those first months encouraging each other and just providing a distraction. We're now at 800 days quit proving it works every day.
Serapis 1653 the number is real. One thousand six hundred fifty-three days without tobacco. You can do this, if life and love can make the difference.
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today I am starting the quitting process again.
You never quit before. Or you wouldn't be posting this.
Read the welcome center and post roll, get involved around here.
There are plenty of distractions to help you through the suck,
buckle up and enjoy the ride.
I'm quit because of this ^^^ guy. Find some others in your group and get their #'s. Roam and I spent hours on the phone those first months encouraging each other and just providing a distraction. We're now at 800 days quit proving it works every day.
....well, technically, I have a few days to go..... #oldguyscantcount
;)
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today I am starting the quitting process again.
You never quit before. Or you wouldn't be posting this.
Read the welcome center and post roll, get involved around here.
There are plenty of distractions to help you through the suck,
buckle up and enjoy the ride.
I'm quit because of this ^^^ guy. Find some others in your group and get their #'s. Roam and I spent hours on the phone those first months encouraging each other and just providing a distraction. We're now at 800 days quit proving it works every day.
....well, technically, I have a few days to go..... #oldguyscantcount
;)
I can count and know you have a couple days and I'm a couple weeks over. Because of the brotherhood and accountability in our BOQ I was giving you those days because I expect it out of you. I have my name in the BOQ roll call today along side Mstt and that has meaning, we fight this battle together and hold each other accountable. Quit on!
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Hi, my name is Ben. I'm 25 and have been chewing for approx 11 -12 years. I've lost 5 of my friends and my brother in law this year. All younger than me. I've had my last dip in after lunch this afternoon. Been thinking bout it for 2 months. Done research and feel like a huge block has lifted off me by finding this site. I don't want to die young. I have no clue where to start I've read all the starter blogs. I chewed a can to a can n half a day. Plz help!
Welcome brother.
You are in the right place.
It's late so I can't write much.
Go to the Welcome Center. Read EVERYTHING.
Find October 2014 in the Quit Groups.
Post your promise not to dip today.
Keep your word.
Come back tomorrow and do it again.
My name is Nolaq. If I can do this. You can.
PM me if you get lost. We can help you find your way.
Ben, how are you doing today? I know you can do this. I was a smoker, today I posted 893. You, too, will be here. One day at a time, one moment-by-moment. You have my support. I'm KGirl and welcome.
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My name is Jeremy. This is day 7 for me. I feel pretty good. It could just be the addiction talking but I feel as if it wasn't the nicotine that I was craving - rather dipping was just something I did in certain situations. Again, thats probably the addiction talking!
I am by far no expert on quitting, nor have I been sober for very long - I just wanted to offer this tid-bit of advice to those who may have gone through the same experiences or will soon.
Most of my cravings have come from times when I catch myself thinking, "hmmmm, this is normally when I would have a dip." As soon as I find myself in that situation I immediately find something to do different. Funny thing is, it just so happens that most of those times when I typically dip, its been during unproductive situations - sitting on my ass, watching TV, riding home from work. Now that I remove myself from those situations - my productivity has picked up! Figure that.
'boob' Had to do this one....everyone loves boobs
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My name is Jeremy. This is day 7 for me. I feel pretty good. It could just be the addiction talking but I feel as if it wasn't the nicotine that I was craving - rather dipping was just something I did in certain situations. Again, thats probably the addiction talking!
I am by far no expert on quitting, nor have I been sober for very long - I just wanted to offer this tid-bit of advice to those who may have gone through the same experiences or will soon.
Most of my cravings have come from times when I catch myself thinking, "hmmmm, this is normally when I would have a dip." As soon as I find myself in that situation I immediately find something to do different. Funny thing is, it just so happens that most of those times when I typically dip, its been during unproductive situations - sitting on my ass, watching TV, riding home from work. Now that I remove myself from those situations - my productivity has picked up! Figure that.
'boob' Had to do this one....everyone loves boobs
There are 2 aspects that you quit Jeremy: physical and fixation.
The physical side is your addiction. You go through withdrawals for the first 3-7 days days because nicotine is highly addictive. It compels people to ruin their health by hiding inside of a poisonous plant. Nicotine is evil. It attaches itself to neurons in your brain and convinces your body that all good things start and end with nicotine.
The fixation side of your quit is the habit. It is the empty feeling in your lip. Habits can be broken, but addictions will always be there. And, you sir, are still am addict.
You're just not using right now.
I'm glad day 7 is treating you well, but don't get too big for your britches. When times are good, practice for the bad. Sharpen your quit tools. When times are bad, rely on them. Use them. A burst of adrenaline is common after the initial suck, and it feels great. Enjoy it, but prepare. There's a funk that will come around day 16-20 that will sneak up on you without preparation.
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Was out of town this weekend celebrating the Wife's grandfather's 90th birthday (WW2 vet... bad ass). We went to a casino in Michigan City, IN which was between the two camps (us in the Cleveland area, they in the Chicago area). With 3 little kids running around I didn't get any table time in the casino until yesterday (Sunday) morning for about 40 minutes or so. Casino was essentially empty and I was sitting playing blackjack with 2 other guys. One of them was so drunk he could barely sit up straight (was drinking a white zinfandel at 9:30 on a Sunday morning... WTF) and the other was on a losing streak like you've only heard of.
As we headed into our 2nd shoe, drunk dude pops open a can of Kodiak and proceeds to start spitting in his wine glass.
I'm just now realizing that it didn't even phase me. I didn't give it a second thought. Didn't crave for it at all. Just sort of felt bad for the guy cause I know what it's like to be that guy.
Freedom is a beautiful thing.
Chewie
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Was out of town this weekend celebrating the Wife's grandfather's 90th birthday (WW2 vet... bad ass). We went to a casino in Michigan City, IN which was between the two camps (us in the Cleveland area, they in the Chicago area). With 3 little kids running around I didn't get any table time in the casino until yesterday (Sunday) morning for about 40 minutes or so. Casino was essentially empty and I was sitting playing blackjack with 2 other guys. One of them was so drunk he could barely sit up straight (was drinking a white zinfandel at 9:30 on a Sunday morning... WTF) and the other was on a losing streak like you've only heard of.
As we headed into our 2nd shoe, drunk dude pops open a can of Kodiak and proceeds to start spitting in his wine glass.
I'm just now realizing that it didn't even phase me. I didn't give it a second thought. Didn't crave for it at all. Just sort of felt bad for the guy cause I know what it's like to be that guy.
Freedom is a beautiful thing.
Chewie
I was that guy too! Not anymore thanks to KTC and the friends I have made here. Thanks Chewie!
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Was out of town this weekend celebrating the Wife's grandfather's 90th birthday (WW2 vet... bad ass). We went to a casino in Michigan City, IN which was between the two camps (us in the Cleveland area, they in the Chicago area). With 3 little kids running around I didn't get any table time in the casino until yesterday (Sunday) morning for about 40 minutes or so. Casino was essentially empty and I was sitting playing blackjack with 2 other guys. One of them was so drunk he could barely sit up straight (was drinking a white zinfandel at 9:30 on a Sunday morning... WTF) and the other was on a losing streak like you've only heard of.
As we headed into our 2nd shoe, drunk dude pops open a can of Kodiak and proceeds to start spitting in his wine glass.
I'm just now realizing that it didn't even phase me. I didn't give it a second thought. Didn't crave for it at all. Just sort of felt bad for the guy cause I know what it's like to be that guy.
Freedom is a beautiful thing.
Chewie
I was that guy too! Not anymore thanks to KTC and the friends I have made here. Thanks Chewie!
Thanks indeed!
Thank you KTC for all you do!
Never Again.
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Great article from Bleacher Report re: smokeless and baseball.
Is Chewing Tobacco Really a Performance-Enhancing Drug in Baseball?
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2108 ... n-baseball (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2108649-is-chewing-tobacco-really-a-performance-enhancing-drug-in-baseball)
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Great article from Bleacher Report re: smokeless and baseball.
Is Chewing Tobacco Really a Performance-Enhancing Drug in Baseball?
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2108 ... n-baseball (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2108649-is-chewing-tobacco-really-a-performance-enhancing-drug-in-baseball)
Very interesting.......Think about it....Put a cigarette in the hand of every ball player who is dipping and put them out in the field....Would baseball and the public tolerate it?
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One of them was so drunk he could barely sit up straight (was drinking a white zinfandel at 9:30 on a Sunday morning... WTF)
What kind of a bar did you say this was?
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Another Wake Up Call:
Rick Jeanneret fighting throat cancer; Sabres voice plans return (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/rick-jeanneret-fighting-throat-cancer--sabres-voice-plans-return-122045537.html)
He had the biopsy June 11 and cancer was diagnosed June 19. His reaction was understandable. “It was a little bit of trepidation,” said Jeanneret, who stopped smoking more than 20 years ago. “It is the great unknown for me now.
20 fucking years later... and we were slaves to that bitch. It's all around us folks... As sad as each of these stories are, it strengthens my quit and appreciation of each and every one of you. Proud to be quit with you again today! QLF!
Chris
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One of them was so drunk he could barely sit up straight (was drinking a white zinfandel at 9:30 on a Sunday morning... WTF)
What kind of a bar did you say this was?
hehe... now that's funny.
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One of them was so drunk he could barely sit up straight (was drinking a white zinfandel at 9:30 on a Sunday morning... WTF)
What kind of a bar did you say this was?
hehe... now that's funny.
But it was... FABULOUS!!!! *jazzhands*
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One of them was so drunk he could barely sit up straight (was drinking a white zinfandel at 9:30 on a Sunday morning... WTF)
What kind of a bar did you say this was?
hehe... now that's funny.
But it was... FABULOUS!!!! *jazzhands*
I thought I read somewhere that the place was called "The Blue Oyster". I could be mistaken though.
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4 days into my quit. its pretty rough. i always used to reward myself with a big ol' dip when i felt like i deserved it (or anyother time really)
every time i get thru a situation during the day that i resisted the nic bitch my mind flashes to taking a dip as a reward for not taking a dip.
pretty fucked up right?
also having a hard time wrapping my mind around the concept of never dipping again.
i keep thinking : and then, and then.......but i can never dip again.
never? ever? kind of like infinity, impossible to imagine.
it is easy to say one day at a time but i know that all of them strung together starts to look a lot like forever.
i know i need to do this. the fog has got me by the balls today
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4 days into my quit. its pretty rough. i always used to reward myself with a big ol' dip when i felt like i deserved it (or anyother time really)
every time i get thru a situation during the day that i resisted the nic bitch my mind flashes to taking a dip as a reward for not taking a dip.
pretty fucked up right?
also having a hard time wrapping my mind around the concept of never dipping again.
i keep thinking : and then, and then.......but i can never dip again.
never? ever? kind of like infinity, impossible to imagine.
it is easy to say one day at a time but i know that all of them strung together starts to look a lot like forever.
i know i need to do this. the fog has got me by the balls today
Beard,
Fuck forever. I'm kicking it for right now. No rewards, no compromises. Just right now. I can keep it at bay for the next 5 minutes. That's all I need.
Occupy yourself with something other than thinking about dipping. Read anything and everything here. Work out. Drink water. All these things help.
Most importantly - Post Roll. Reach out to your October brothers. They are struggling with you right now and can offer a hand, a shoulder or a foot. Which ever you need.
Quitting is not impossible.
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Motivation from Fox News website this morning:
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/07/0 ... latestnews (http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/07/02/smokeless-tobacco-rates-remain-steady-in-us-as-cigarette-use-declines/?intcmp=latestnews)
Keep the quit!!!
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Motivation from Fox News website this morning:
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/07/0 ... latestnews (http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/07/02/smokeless-tobacco-rates-remain-steady-in-us-as-cigarette-use-declines/?intcmp=latestnews)
http://www.foxnews.com/health/slideshow ... bacco-use/# (http://www.foxnews.com/health/slideshow/2014/07/02/faces-smokeless-tobacco-use/#)
Keep the quit!!!
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4 days into my quit. its pretty rough. i always used to reward myself with a big ol' dip when i felt like i deserved it (or anyother time really)
every time i get thru a situation during the day that i resisted the nic bitch my mind flashes to taking a dip as a reward for not taking a dip.
pretty fucked up right?
also having a hard time wrapping my mind around the concept of never dipping again.
i keep thinking : and then, and then.......but i can never dip again.
never? ever? kind of like infinity, impossible to imagine.
it is easy to say one day at a time but i know that all of them strung together starts to look a lot like forever.
i know i need to do this. the fog has got me by the balls today
Beard,
Fuck forever. I'm kicking it for right now. No rewards, no compromises. Just right now. I can keep it at bay for the next 5 minutes. That's all I need.
Occupy yourself with something other than thinking about dipping. Read anything and everything here. Work out. Drink water. All these things help.
Most importantly - Post Roll. Reach out to your October brothers. They are struggling with you right now and can offer a hand, a shoulder or a foot. Which ever you need.
Quitting is not impossible.
Beard -
First off... welcome
Second, NOLAQ is right. Don't worry about "forever"... it's too big. We quit one day at a time (ODAAT) and when we get to tomorrow, we repeat what we did today.
I wrote this a while back... may be helpful.
Dealing With Craves The Concept Of Forever
http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures ... f-forever/ (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/dealing-with-craves-the-concept-of-forever/)
As NOLAQ says, not only is quitting not impossible, it's VERY attainable. Welcome!
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I haven't been on in awhile but quit July 3rd 2007 with the help of KTC and my quit brothers I have 2559 days quit or 7 years! Could not have done it without this site I posted daily and some days I was on here for hours because it was all I could do to stay quit. Thanks old timers that helped me especially Sioux, ODT, Chewie and Loot. Love this place!
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I haven't been on in awhile but quit July 3rd 2007 with the help of KTC and my quit brothers I have 2559 days quit or 7 years! Could not have done it without this site I posted daily and some days I was on here for hours because it was all I could do to stay quit. Thanks old timers that helped me especially Sioux, ODT, Chewie and Loot. Love this place!
You go post in Baboo right now young lady.
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Enjoy your multiple freedoms today quitters.
Proud to be quit with you all.
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New Blog Post: Celebrating Dip Independence Via Text
http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/07/cele ... -via-text/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/07/celebrating-dip-independence-via-text/)
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At the community pool with my kids.
Some dad here walking around, spitting into an empty Sprite bottle.
I shoulda worn my KTC shirt today.
I'm so glad I'm not that guy any more.
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At the community pool with my kids.
Some dad here walking around, spitting into an empty Sprite bottle.
I shoulda worn my KTC shirt today.
I'm so glad I'm not that guy any more.
I bought a used touring for my bike on Saturday. I met the old dude at a gas station and he was sitting in his truck. Spit bottle in the console and when I shook his hand he had a fatty in and his bottom teeth were all gross looking like he never brushed his teeth. Followed him to his house and he showed me the trunk and his bike. Empty used plastic spit bottle in the cup holder. Thought about telling about the site but since the dude was in his 70's figured it would be a waste of time since he would probably never quit.
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Fucking dip dreams!! Almost 600 days dip free and the fucking dip dream comes and fucks with me last night. I hate that bitch!
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Fucking dip dreams!! Almost 600 days dip free and the fucking dip dream comes and fucks with me last night. I hate that bitch!
Ugh... HATE dip dreams. Luckily, if you're like me you're about done with them. I think I had my last one around day 750 or so.
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New Blog Post: 20,000 Members – Bigger, Better Picking Up Steam
http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/07/2000 ... -up-steam/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/07/20000-members-bigger-better-picking-up-steam/)
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New Blog Post: Triumph Chew Review – Tobacco Free Herbal Chew
http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/07/triu ... rbal-chew/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/07/triumph-chew-review-tobacco-free-herbal-chew/)
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At the community pool with my kids.
Some dad here walking around, spitting into an empty Sprite bottle.
I shoulda worn my KTC shirt today.
I'm so glad I'm not that guy any more.
I bought a used touring for my bike on Saturday. I met the old dude at a gas station and he was sitting in his truck. Spit bottle in the console and when I shook his hand he had a fatty in and his bottom teeth were all gross looking like he never brushed his teeth. Followed him to his house and he showed me the trunk and his bike. Empty used plastic spit bottle in the cup holder. Thought about telling about the site but since the dude was in his 70's figured it would be a waste of time since he would probably never quit.
I LOVE not being that guy...
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3300 big ones today. None more important than this one.
If you are lurking. Scared. Jump on in. It can be done. We can show you how. It won't be easy by any stretch...but it's managable.
Flush your stash...you know you want to. You know you need to.
Father's Day is tomorrow. What better gift for your children than to spend the day with a lickably clean dad?
Let's get it.
It doesn't matter how many times I see it... "lickably clean" makes me shudder every... damn... time.
Hope you enjoyed your Dad's Day yesterday my man!
Wow, that does read pretty bad.
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Two days without a dip. Think tomorrow will be the worst so far because I'll be in the car all day.
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Two days without a dip. Think tomorrow will be the worst so far because I'll be in the car all day.
Be prepared. Take some seeds, some gum, some candy, some fake if you have any. Anything to feed the oral fixation.
Have you posted roll? Do you have any numbers for any guys/gals in your group? Use them if need be.
You got this man, it's a necessary step in taking back your life
Quit on...
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Two days without a dip. Think tomorrow will be the worst so far because I'll be in the car all day.
Be prepared. Take some seeds, some gum, some candy, some fake if you have any. Anything to feed the oral fixation.
Have you posted roll? Do you have any numbers for any guys/gals in your group? Use them if need be.
You got this man, it's a necessary step in taking back your life
Quit on...
Two days without a dip. Think tomorrow will be the worst so far because I'll be in the car all day.
Be prepared. Take some seeds, some gum, some candy, some fake if you have any. Anything to feed the oral fixation.
Have you posted roll? Do you have any numbers for any guys/gals in your group? Use them if need be.
You got this man, it's a necessary step in taking back your life
Quit on...
From JThomas38.....on Day 7
For 23 years I dipped, everyday. Since joining KTC, I'm on Day 7 of no dip. Never thought I could do it after 23 years but I can. And, I'm feeling good.
It just feels like people tugging and twisting you, that's all. It's not happening, it just feels like it. Enjoy it, that's what I did. Sounds crazy but it's pretty easy if you can get a cheap laugh out of it. It's almost like a nitrous buzz or spin the top.....just look at it like that and don't think too much of it.
You're not born to put that shit in your mouth. Go back to your roots. Good luck, it's doable.
JT
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So inhaling nicotine vapor is 60% more effective in quitting smoking than other methods?!?!?!
'Crazy'
Idiots! (http://www.nbcnews.com/business/consumer/inside-vapers-den-e-cig-salvation-new-dangers-n150056)
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So inhaling nicotine vapor is 60% more effective in quitting smoking than other methods?!?!?!
'Crazy'
Idiots! (http://www.nbcnews.com/business/consumer/inside-vapers-den-e-cig-salvation-new-dangers-n150056)
Yes it is. And as what some people call an alcoholic I can assure you that switching from beer to ale solved my problem.
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So inhaling nicotine vapor is 60% more effective in quitting smoking than other methods?!?!?!
'Crazy'
Idiots! (http://www.nbcnews.com/business/consumer/inside-vapers-den-e-cig-salvation-new-dangers-n150056)
Yes it is. And as what some people call an alcoholic I can assure you that switching from beer to ale solved my problem.
Flawed logic.
Here's the link to the survey (http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/add.12623/pdf).
5863 people in the last year were used, and of those 3477 attempted cold turkey (59.30%), 1922 used NRT (32.78%), and the rest used e-cigs (7.92%). It began in 2009, and just concluded now. Basically, they kept sending surveys to these people asking if they were quit (not sure how often or when they stopped) but because e-cigs are so new...most "quitters" using these were under 6 months. They also defined a non-smoker (thus, successful) as somebody who answered "Are you still smoking?" with "no". Now, I've done quite a bit of research on e-cigs and one of the things I've noticed is that they don't consider "vaping" as "smoking" (kind of like our "stopping" and "quitting" difference). So, vapors are more likely to report being quit despite still using nicotine. I even emailed the authors for verification of this. They also ruled out group therapy as an option.
At the end of the study, 93 people "quit" using e-cigs (20.0%), 194 using NRT (10.1%), and 15.4% (or 535) quit going cold turkey. Now, instead of reporting that cold turkey methods are more effective than NRT, the headline became about the e-cigs. Like I mentioned, flawed stats here due to terminology and time.
So, I've seen this study reported all over, but it's interesting to note that nobody is talking group therapy (what we do) and that cold turkey is more effective anyways. For perspective, KTC is about 35-40% to HOF and 25-30% at 6 months. We trounce all of these numbers, and we are the program that these quit lines all over the world want to be. But, as much as I laud the program, the magic comes from all of us that "pay it forward". When we were at the smokeless summit last August, they all stood up there and challenged the programs to get their quitters involved. We do that. They wanted quitters to write about their experiences, and hadn't had any luck with it. We do that. They salivated at the numbers we post every day, and unfortunately, didn't understand why we concerned that they chose to protect their medication money over their support money when push came to shove.
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So inhaling nicotine vapor is 60% more effective in quitting smoking than other methods?!?!?!
'Crazy'
Idiots! (http://www.nbcnews.com/business/consumer/inside-vapers-den-e-cig-salvation-new-dangers-n150056)
Yes it is. And as what some people call an alcoholic I can assure you that switching from beer to ale solved my problem.
Flawed logic.
Here's the link to the survey (http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/add.12623/pdf).
5863 people in the last year were used, and of those 3477 attempted cold turkey (59.30%), 1922 used NRT (32.78%), and the rest used e-cigs (7.92%). It began in 2009, and just concluded now. Basically, they kept sending surveys to these people asking if they were quit (not sure how often or when they stopped) but because e-cigs are so new...most "quitters" using these were under 6 months. They also defined a non-smoker (thus, successful) as somebody who answered "Are you still smoking?" with "no". Now, I've done quite a bit of research on e-cigs and one of the things I've noticed is that they don't consider "vaping" as "smoking" (kind of like our "stopping" and "quitting" difference). So, vapors are more likely to report being quit despite still using nicotine. I even emailed the authors for verification of this. They also ruled out group therapy as an option.
At the end of the study, 93 people "quit" using e-cigs (20.0%), 194 using NRT (10.1%), and 15.4% (or 535) quit going cold turkey. Now, instead of reporting that cold turkey methods are more effective than NRT, the headline became about the e-cigs. Like I mentioned, flawed stats here due to terminology and time.
So, I've seen this study reported all over, but it's interesting to note that nobody is talking group therapy (what we do) and that cold turkey is more effective anyways. For perspective, KTC is about 35-40% to HOF and 25-30% at 6 months. We trounce all of these numbers, and we are the program that these quit lines all over the world want to be. But, as much as I laud the program, the magic comes from all of us that "pay it forward". When we were at the smokeless summit last August, they all stood up there and challenged the programs to get their quitters involved. We do that. They wanted quitters to write about their experiences, and hadn't had any luck with it. We do that. They salivated at the numbers we post every day, and unfortunately, didn't understand why we concerned that they chose to protect their medication money over their support money when push came to shove.
We were the only group at the summit that didn't promote NRT's. There was a lot of interest in what we had to say but I think it'll take time to change the state program directors minds that get lobbied hard by drug companies to promote NRT's, to promote cold turkey like KTC does as the most effective quitting method
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So inhaling nicotine vapor is 60% more effective in quitting smoking than other methods?!?!?!
'Crazy'
Idiots! (http://www.nbcnews.com/business/consumer/inside-vapers-den-e-cig-salvation-new-dangers-n150056)
Yes it is. And as what some people call an alcoholic I can assure you that switching from beer to ale solved my problem.
Flawed logic.
Here's the link to the survey (http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/add.12623/pdf).
5863 people in the last year were used, and of those 3477 attempted cold turkey (59.30%), 1922 used NRT (32.78%), and the rest used e-cigs (7.92%). It began in 2009, and just concluded now. Basically, they kept sending surveys to these people asking if they were quit (not sure how often or when they stopped) but because e-cigs are so new...most "quitters" using these were under 6 months. They also defined a non-smoker (thus, successful) as somebody who answered "Are you still smoking?" with "no". Now, I've done quite a bit of research on e-cigs and one of the things I've noticed is that they don't consider "vaping" as "smoking" (kind of like our "stopping" and "quitting" difference). So, vapors are more likely to report being quit despite still using nicotine. I even emailed the authors for verification of this. They also ruled out group therapy as an option.
At the end of the study, 93 people "quit" using e-cigs (20.0%), 194 using NRT (10.1%), and 15.4% (or 535) quit going cold turkey. Now, instead of reporting that cold turkey methods are more effective than NRT, the headline became about the e-cigs. Like I mentioned, flawed stats here due to terminology and time.
So, I've seen this study reported all over, but it's interesting to note that nobody is talking group therapy (what we do) and that cold turkey is more effective anyways. For perspective, KTC is about 35-40% to HOF and 25-30% at 6 months. We trounce all of these numbers, and we are the program that these quit lines all over the world want to be. But, as much as I laud the program, the magic comes from all of us that "pay it forward". When we were at the smokeless summit last August, they all stood up there and challenged the programs to get their quitters involved. We do that. They wanted quitters to write about their experiences, and hadn't had any luck with it. We do that. They salivated at the numbers we post every day, and unfortunately, didn't understand why we concerned that they chose to protect their medication money over their support money when push came to shove.
We were the only group at the summit that didn't promote NRT's. There was a lot of interest in what we had to say but I think it'll take time to change the state programs that get lobbied hard to promote NRT's as the best quitting method to preserve their market.
NRT= $$$
Plain and simple. *sigh*
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You're here looking around and reading, wondering, 'Could I actually walk away? Not dip again, forever?'
Forget forever. Those on this site all quit the same; one day (hour, minute, second) at a time. Spit it out - you're quit. Now don't dip for the next second. When you have two, promise to quit for the third and do it. Don't look ahead just quit for the now.
sbtzc 8 years ~ around 2,920 days ~ around 70,080 hours ~ around 4,204,800 minutes ~ around 252,288,000 seconds of freedom,.. one at a time
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You're here looking around and reading, wondering, 'Could I actually walk away? Not dip again, forever?'
Forget forever. Those on this site all quit the same; one day (hour, minute, second) at a time. Spit it out - you're quit. Now don't dip for the next second. When you have two, promise to quit for the third and do it. Don't look ahead just quit for the now.
sbtzc 8 years ~ around 2,920 days ~ around 70,080 hours ~ around 4,204,800 minutes ~ around 252,288,000 seconds of freedom,.. one at a time
Good to see you sir! And HUGE congrats on 8 years of freedom!!!
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I don't know if this is the place to rant or if I'm cutting into any ongoing conversations but I'm having a rough day.
This is my day 5 today. I felt foggy and sh*tty all day.
I used to dip when I was stressed out and today really tested me.
My house was broken into and my car was stolen early this morning. With just the way I've been feeling over the past five days dealing with the quit (disgruntled, angry, stressed, craving), you couldn't have picked a worst time for something like this to happen.
I thought about dipping a lot today. It's driving me nuts. I won't do it though. I came onto the KoC.org a couple times throughout the day and read some articles and posts and that really helped get me past the urge. Thanks for the inspiration everyone, thanks for giving me a reason not to go back to dipping.
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I don't know if this is the place to rant or if I'm cutting into any ongoing conversations but I'm having a rough day.
This is my day 5 today. I felt foggy and sh*tty all day.
I used to dip when I was stressed out and today really tested me.
My house was broken into and my car was stolen early this morning. With just the way I've been feeling over the past five days dealing with the quit (disgruntled, angry, stressed, craving), you couldn't have picked a worst time for something like this to happen.
I thought about dipping a lot today. It's driving me nuts. I won't do it though. I came onto the KoC.org a couple times throughout the day and read some articles and posts and that really helped get me past the urge. Thanks for the inspiration everyone, thanks for giving me a reason not to go back to dipping.
Just sent you my number, man.
You can do this.
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I don't know if this is the place to rant or if I'm cutting into any ongoing conversations but I'm having a rough day.
This is my day 5 today. I felt foggy and sh*tty all day.
I used to dip when I was stressed out and today really tested me.
My house was broken into and my car was stolen early this morning. With just the way I've been feeling over the past five days dealing with the quit (disgruntled, angry, stressed, craving), you couldn't have picked a worst time for something like this to happen.
I thought about dipping a lot today. It's driving me nuts. I won't do it though. I came onto the KoC.org a couple times throughout the day and read some articles and posts and that really helped get me past the urge. Thanks for the inspiration everyone, thanks for giving me a reason not to go back to dipping.
That sucks about your house getting broken in to and your car stolen. I'm truly sorry to hear that.
Gotta ask yourself though, would your house NOT have been broken into if you were still dipping? Nope. Would your car still be here? Nope. If you loaded your lip, would your house magically be normal again and your car suddenly reappear? Nope.
Today would still have sucked, it just would have sucked while you sucked on some poison.
I used to think dip relieved stress. That was a lie. The only thing dip relieved was nicotine withdrawal. It just seemed to relieve stress because when I was stressed, that urge for nicotine magnified 1,000 times over. When I put in a dip, I would say "Ahhhhh" but that wasn't reliefe from the stressful situation, it was relief that I filled my brains need for nicotine. When I spit my dip out , all my problems were still there and needed to be dealt with. Nicotine filled NO voids in my life. It created them.
The body knows how to deal with stress without the help of nicotine. Unfortunately for us nic addicts we got lost along the way and were tricked into thinking we couldn't "deal" without our nic crutch.
It is possible to lose that crutch and "deal" again. I and many here are living proof of that.
It's just going to take awhile. Getting through days like today without your crutch, is one hell of step in the right direction. I know it sucked but It was a victory. Keep stringing victories together and things will get progressively easier.
This site can help you tremendously. Are you posting role? Have you started an intro page? Have you jumped into chat? Their are a lot of people here who can help you. Use them.
Keep grinding. You got this. You need anything, hit me up any time.
Quit on...
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I don't know if this is the place to rant or if I'm cutting into any ongoing conversations but I'm having a rough day.
This is my day 5 today. I felt foggy and sh*tty all day.
I used to dip when I was stressed out and today really tested me.
My house was broken into and my car was stolen early this morning. With just the way I've been feeling over the past five days dealing with the quit (disgruntled, angry, stressed, craving), you couldn't have picked a worst time for something like this to happen.
I thought about dipping a lot today. It's driving me nuts. I won't do it though. I came onto the KoC.org a couple times throughout the day and read some articles and posts and that really helped get me past the urge. Thanks for the inspiration everyone, thanks for giving me a reason not to go back to dipping.
That sucks about your house getting broken in to and your car stolen. I'm truly sorry to hear that.
Gotta ask yourself though, would your house NOT have been broken into if you were still dipping? Nope. Would your car still be here? Nope. If you loaded your lip, would your house magically be normal again and your car suddenly reappear? Nope.
Today would still have sucked, it just would have sucked while you sucked on some poison.
I used to think dip relieved stress. That was a lie. The only thing dip relieved was nicotine withdrawal. It just seemed to relieve stress because when I was stressed, that urge for nicotine magnified 1,000 times over. When I put in a dip, I would say "Ahhhhh" but that wasn't reliefe from the stressful situation, it was relief that I filled my brains need for nicotine. When I spit my dip out , all my problems were still there and needed to be dealt with. Nicotine filled NO voids in my life. It created them.
The body knows how to deal with stress without the help of nicotine. Unfortunately for us nic addicts we got lost along the way and were tricked into thinking we couldn't "deal" without our nic crutch.
It is possible to lose that crutch and "deal" again. I and many here are living proof of that.
It's just going to take awhile. Getting through days like today without your crutch, is one hell of step in the right direction. I know it sucked but It was a victory. Keep stringing victories together and things will get progressively easier.
This site can help you tremendously. Are you posting role? Have you started an intro page? Have you jumped into chat? Their are a lot of people here who can help you. Use them.
Keep grinding. You got this. You need anything, hit me up any time.
Quit on...
Diesel, that's a great way to look at it. I don't really think clearly during stressful situations. Instead of breaking it down like you just did, I would typically just run for a dip.
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Diesel, thank you for that. That makes perfect sense and it just made my day. No more ahhhhhs and that's okay with me.
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I don't know if this is the place to rant or if I'm cutting into any ongoing conversations but I'm having a rough day.
This is my day 5 today. I felt foggy and sh*tty all day.
I used to dip when I was stressed out and today really tested me.
My house was broken into and my car was stolen early this morning. With just the way I've been feeling over the past five days dealing with the quit (disgruntled, angry, stressed, craving), you couldn't have picked a worst time for something like this to happen.
I thought about dipping a lot today. It's driving me nuts. I won't do it though. I came onto the KoC.org a couple times throughout the day and read some articles and posts and that really helped get me past the urge. Thanks for the inspiration everyone, thanks for giving me a reason not to go back to dipping.
That sucks about your house getting broken in to and your car stolen. I'm truly sorry to hear that.
Gotta ask yourself though, would your house NOT have been broken into if you were still dipping? Nope. Would your car still be here? Nope. If you loaded your lip, would your house magically be normal again and your car suddenly reappear? Nope.
Today would still have sucked, it just would have sucked while you sucked on some poison.
I used to think dip relieved stress. That was a lie. The only thing dip relieved was nicotine withdrawal. It just seemed to relieve stress because when I was stressed, that urge for nicotine magnified 1,000 times over. When I put in a dip, I would say "Ahhhhh" but that wasn't reliefe from the stressful situation, it was relief that I filled my brains need for nicotine. When I spit my dip out , all my problems were still there and needed to be dealt with. Nicotine filled NO voids in my life. It created them.
The body knows how to deal with stress without the help of nicotine. Unfortunately for us nic addicts we got lost along the way and were tricked into thinking we couldn't "deal" without our nic crutch.
It is possible to lose that crutch and "deal" again. I and many here are living proof of that.
It's just going to take awhile. Getting through days like today without your crutch, is one hell of step in the right direction. I know it sucked but It was a victory. Keep stringing victories together and things will get progressively easier.
This site can help you tremendously. Are you posting role? Have you started an intro page? Have you jumped into chat? Their are a lot of people here who can help you. Use them.
Keep grinding. You got this. You need anything, hit me up any time.
Quit on...
Diesel, that's a great way to look at it. I don't really think clearly during stressful situations. Instead of breaking it down like you just did, I would typically just run for a dip.
Love this post Diesel...thank you for the time you take to encourage others with your gift of words.
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I don't know if this is the place to rant or if I'm cutting into any ongoing conversations but I'm having a rough day.
This is my day 5 today. I felt foggy and sh*tty all day.
I used to dip when I was stressed out and today really tested me.
My house was broken into and my car was stolen early this morning. With just the way I've been feeling over the past five days dealing with the quit (disgruntled, angry, stressed, craving), you couldn't have picked a worst time for something like this to happen.
I thought about dipping a lot today. It's driving me nuts. I won't do it though. I came onto the KoC.org a couple times throughout the day and read some articles and posts and that really helped get me past the urge. Thanks for the inspiration everyone, thanks for giving me a reason not to go back to dipping.
That sucks about your house getting broken in to and your car stolen. I'm truly sorry to hear that.
Gotta ask yourself though, would your house NOT have been broken into if you were still dipping? Nope. Would your car still be here? Nope. If you loaded your lip, would your house magically be normal again and your car suddenly reappear? Nope.
Today would still have sucked, it just would have sucked while you sucked on some poison.
I used to think dip relieved stress. That was a lie. The only thing dip relieved was nicotine withdrawal. It just seemed to relieve stress because when I was stressed, that urge for nicotine magnified 1,000 times over. When I put in a dip, I would say "Ahhhhh" but that wasn't reliefe from the stressful situation, it was relief that I filled my brains need for nicotine. When I spit my dip out , all my problems were still there and needed to be dealt with. Nicotine filled NO voids in my life. It created them.
The body knows how to deal with stress without the help of nicotine. Unfortunately for us nic addicts we got lost along the way and were tricked into thinking we couldn't "deal" without our nic crutch.
It is possible to lose that crutch and "deal" again. I and many here are living proof of that.
It's just going to take awhile. Getting through days like today without your crutch, is one hell of step in the right direction. I know it sucked but It was a victory. Keep stringing victories together and things will get progressively easier.
This site can help you tremendously. Are you posting role? Have you started an intro page? Have you jumped into chat? Their are a lot of people here who can help you. Use them.
Keep grinding. You got this. You need anything, hit me up any time.
Quit on...
Diesel, that's a great way to look at it. I don't really think clearly during stressful situations. Instead of breaking it down like you just did, I would typically just run for a dip.
Love this post Diesel...thank you for the time you take to encourage others with your gift of words.
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Not sure the last sentence is the best advice, but the rest of this report (http://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2014/07/hookah_like_smoking_40_cigarettes__kissing_everybody.html) is scary.
Keep up the fight!
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Not sure the last sentence is the best advice, but the rest of this report (http://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2014/07/hookah_like_smoking_40_cigarettes__kissing_everybody.html) is scary.
Keep up the fight!
Hookah: Like Smoking 40 Cigarettes Kissing Everybody
Mmmmmm... YUMMY!
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WHAT A BARGAIN - only 27 BILLION!!! - Reynolds American buys rival Lorillard for $27B #BigTobacco
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/bus ... /12663291/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2014/07/15/cigarette-maker-reynolds-american-buys-lorillard/12663291/)
'Finger'
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jtbrown posted this in July 2014. Like he said, you can never have too many of these stories to strengthen our collective quit.
Hey gents. Don't want to bring the mood down, but a local news station published a story about a man that died from the can. I know there are plenty of these floating around here, but as far as I'm concerned there cannot be enough. Another powerful example of what the nic bitch can do to you if you don't take control. Hopefully, this will make your quit stronger like it did mine.
http://www.waff.com/story/25995090/loca ... ign=buffer (http://www.waff.com/story/25995090/local-family-shares-personal-story-of-the-deadly-effects-of-dipping?utm_content=buffera9052&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer)
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WHAT A BARGAIN - only 27 BILLION!!! - Reynolds American buys rival Lorillard for $27B #BigTobacco
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/bus ... /12663291/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2014/07/15/cigarette-maker-reynolds-american-buys-lorillard/12663291/)
'Finger'
God I hate big tobacco ... For this ^^^ as well as the one above it.
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jtbrown posted this in July 2014. Like he said, you can never have too many of these stories to strengthen our collective quit.
Hey gents. Don't want to bring the mood down, but a local news station published a story about a man that died from the can. I know there are plenty of these floating around here, but as far as I'm concerned there cannot be enough. Another powerful example of what the nic bitch can do to you if you don't take control. Hopefully, this will make your quit stronger like it did mine.
http://www.waff.com/story/25995090/loca ... ign=buffer (http://www.waff.com/story/25995090/local-family-shares-personal-story-of-the-deadly-effects-of-dipping?utm_content=buffera9052&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer)
Jeez that is so sad. I hate reading this stuff but we have to. I just hope none of us quit too late. Scary. Makes me appreciate the freedom we are winning for ourselves here at KTC. Thank guys!
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I just saw this:
http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/big-lea ... obacco-ban (http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/big-league-chew-baseball-examine-chewing-tobacco-ban)
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New Blog Post: Do You Know How Much YouÂ’re Actually Chewing?
http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/07/do-y ... y-chewing/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/07/do-you-know-how-much-youre-actually-chewing/)
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WHAT A BARGAIN - only 27 BILLION!!! - Reynolds American buys rival Lorillard for $27B #BigTobacco
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/bus ... /12663291/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2014/07/15/cigarette-maker-reynolds-american-buys-lorillard/12663291/)
'Finger'
God I hate big tobacco ... For this ^^^ as well as the one above it.
Representing THE MOST DESPICABLE FORM OF GREED: Getting rich at the expense of the lives of others!
'Finger'
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You're here looking around and reading, wondering, 'Could I actually walk away? Not dip again, forever?'
Forget forever. Those on this site all quit the same; one day (hour, minute, second) at a time. Spit it out - you're quit. Now don't dip for the next second. When you have two, promise to quit for the third and do it. Don't look ahead just quit for the now.
sbtzc 8 years ~ around 2,920 days ~ around 70,080 hours ~ around 4,204,800 minutes ~ around 252,288,000 seconds of freedom,.. one at a time
Good to see you sir! And HUGE congrats on 8 years of freedom!!!
Amen, gents. Thanks for the inspiration.
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What's with the cheap look of the site. I like the old headers and look of the sight.
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What's with the cheap look of the site. I like the old headers and look of the sight.
huh?
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What's with the cheap look of the site. I like the old headers and look of the sight.
huh?
Dammit, WT put you glasses on!
Either that or you have it on Zeta Original, at the bottom right.
Looks the same to me otherwise.
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What's with the cheap look of the site. I like the old headers and look of the sight.
huh?
Dammit, WT put you glasses on!
Either that or you have it on Zeta Original, at the bottom right.
Looks the same to me otherwise.
Well I do have my glasses on and I'm on my phone, same as the past 2 years and everything looks different. I do see the zeta original at bottom left but I can't change it. If I choose killthecan.org I get error "not found".
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What's with the cheap look of the site. I like the old headers and look of the sight.
huh?
Dammit, WT put you glasses on!
Either that or you have it on Zeta Original, at the bottom right.
Looks the same to me otherwise.
Well I do have my glasses on and I'm on my phone, same as the past 2 years and everything looks different. I do see the zeta original at bottom left but I can't change it. If I choose killthecan.org I get error "not found".
I'm actually the opposite. I tried to switch to the zeta and got that error message. Have you tried clearing your cache?
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Just wanted to introduce myself. My name is Kevin, from SoCal but picked up the habit when I was in Michigan for the last few years. Dipping seriously controls most aspects of my day, and I hate that.
Going to try to stop tomorrow. Really hoping that it will last this time (I've tried to quit about 10x, but without support).
Just looking for some words of support that I'll actually feel better in a few days.
Very grateful that this forum exists, especially since I have no support otherwise.
-K-
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Hey guys, I decided to quit chewing two days ago. I chewed on and off for 12 years, but very consistently the last 5. I came across this website because I could not believe the symptoms my body is going through. Gassy, appeitite is all over the place, and my joints are aching as if I was getting the flu. I decided to quit chewing for various reasons, my wife is pregnant with our first child, financially it is getting harder and harder to excuse..(if anyone else is from canada you will know what I'm talking about), but mostly I don't like the feeling of being a slave to that little can, even though it felt like we were best friends sometimes. I'm glad their is a website like this, running into a guy who really chewed and really quit is harder then you think. Smokers can give some advice I'm sure but they really don't understand when their are no real barriers for where you can have your next chew..anyone who's a few years deep can have a chew anywhere and not raise too many eyebrows. Today is going to be my first day at work without any chew in years, but knowing that I'm not the only guy out there that has gone through all these feelings gives me a feeling of hope. Have a good day boys
Cheers
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Hey guys, I decided to quit chewing two days ago. I chewed on and off for 12 years, but very consistently the last 5. I came across this website because I could not believe the symptoms my body is going through. Gassy, appeitite is all over the place, and my joints are aching as if I was getting the flu. I decided to quit chewing for various reasons, my wife is pregnant with our first child, financially it is getting harder and harder to excuse..(if anyone else is from canada you will know what I'm talking about), but mostly I don't like the feeling of being a slave to that little can, even though it felt like we were best friends sometimes. I'm glad their is a website like this, running into a guy who really chewed and really quit is harder then you think. Smokers can give some advice I'm sure but they really don't understand when their are no real barriers for where you can have your next chew..anyone who's a few years deep can have a chew anywhere and not raise too many eyebrows. Today is going to be my first day at work without any chew in years, but knowing that I'm not the only guy out there that has gone through all these feelings gives me a feeling of hope. Have a good day boys
Cheers
Welcome aboard swinder!
You're in the best place on the web to get and stay quit.
Based on your quit date (today) you're a part of the October 2014 HOF class: topic/10359552/38/?x=90#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/10359552/38/?x=90#new) Head on over and introduce yourself.
Let us know how we can help!
chewie
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No chance this ends up sticking, but it's nice to see Big Tobacco get fucked with the initial ruling
R.J. Reynolds Loses $23B Verdict
http://www.whackthepack.com/2014/07/r-j ... b-verdict/ (http://www.whackthepack.com/2014/07/r-j-reynolds-loses-23b-verdict/)
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Just wanted to introduce myself. My name is Kevin, from SoCal but picked up the habit when I was in Michigan for the last few years. Dipping seriously controls most aspects of my day, and I hate that.
Going to try to stop tomorrow. Really hoping that it will last this time (I've tried to quit about 10x, but without support).
Just looking for some words of support that I'll actually feel better in a few days.
Very grateful that this forum exists, especially since I have no support otherwise.
-K-
Words of support you will feel better in a few days? Well, I cant give you those unfortunately because you have not quit yet.
"Going to try to stop tomorrow. Really hoping that it will last this time..." That attitude = failure before you even start. Its like you have already admitted defeat and the round has not started. Why hope and try? Why not just do? And most importantly, why stop tomorrow when you can quit today? We have a simple system here:
1) No nicotine, period. Take all you stuff and flush it. Patches, chew, smokes, e-cig, lozenges, etc. Gonzo - if you plan on failing, part of that plan must include a trip to the nearest dealer to get your fix. dump it in the toilet, piss on it, and flush.
2) Post roll. Read everything here (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/55560/). Your group is October 14 (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/10359552/66/?x=60#new) if you quit right now.
3) KEEP YOUR WORD!
Now, once you quit, the first 72 hours are going to be physical hell - and then the real hard part will kick in. For most its certainly more than a few days, but trust me when I say it DOES and WILL get better. Everyday, minute by minute, you will get back to being you and in control of your life, not a slave to a weed in a can. One day, you will wake up and really taste freedom. We are here for you - we will give you all the tools, point you down the path, and walk shoulder to shoulder. But you gotta do your part and that includes some heavy lifting.
Shoot me a PM when you actually decide you are going to quit today (not try and stop tomorrow) and I will gladly help you get going down the road to freedom.
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Just wanted to say finding this site has been a blessing. Ton of great info that has help me to reach Day 33 nic free of a 34+ year addiction. Great to be quit with you.
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Just joined the site. Quit on Friday, July 18, 2014. The last few days have been hell. This seems like a good place to get support since most of the people I would turn to support for don't even know that I dip, or that I was dipping as much as I was. It's discouraging to read posts from people who have quit for 70 days and they are still having cravings. I was hoping the cravings would subside eventually. On the other hand it's encouraging that a place like this exists where people can turn to for support. The worst part is I'm not even sure how or why I started dipping, I just did. There are so many triggers (golf, yard work, lately just being at work) that it's difficult quit but so far I'm just about 96 hours since last dip and still holding strong (relatively speaking).
-C
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Just wanted to say finding this site has been a blessing. Ton of great info that has help me to reach Day 33 nic free of a 34+ year addiction. Great to be quit with you.
Welcome aboard! Glad to have you. Let us know how we can help.
chewie
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Have any of you have tried the "fake" chew? Do you find that it helps or does it intensify your craving for the real thing? Which one is the best? I've tried smokey mountain and I can't say that I'm a big fan.
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Have any of you have tried the "fake" chew? Do you find that it helps or does it intensify your craving for the real thing? Which one is the best? I've tried smokey mountain and I can't say that I'm a big fan.
I used hooch wintergreen... helped quite a lot with the craves.
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Just joined the site. Quit on Friday, July 18, 2014. The last few days have been hell. This seems like a good place to get support since most of the people I would turn to support for don't even know that I dip, or that I was dipping as much as I was. It's discouraging to read posts from people who have quit for 70 days and they are still having cravings. I was hoping the cravings would subside eventually. On the other hand it's encouraging that a place like this exists where people can turn to for support. The worst part is I'm not even sure how or why I started dipping, I just did. There are so many triggers (golf, yard work, lately just being at work) that it's difficult quit but so far I'm just about 96 hours since last dip and still holding strong (relatively speaking).
-C
The bad news. Craves will come even at hundreds of days quit.
The good news: they are way less intense and they last only a few seconds. The farther away from day 1 you get, the better it will be.
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Add me to the list of people on the quest to quit. I am on day 6 of no nicotine after using for 15 years. The last few days have been rough, but I have held strong. No nicotine at all. My biggest problem is that I used to dip for relaxation after a long day at work and getting the kids to bed. I am not a drinker (and don't want to be one) so now I need to find a new way to have 'me' time to relax that doesn't involve a dip.
But I know I am doing this for the right reasons and I don't want to waste the hell I have gone through and go back to nicotine. I am hoping that the cravings lesson and I find a new way to relax and enjoy 'me' time that doesn't involve a dip.
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Hello everyone I'm A little lost I want to quit the can is where I say something if so I was hoping some one could give me advice on how to quot other than cold turkey I'm trying that to day and it is very hard also I would like to be able to quit in 1 month
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Hello everyone I'm A little lost I want to quit the can is where I say something if so I was hoping some one could give me advice on how to quot other than cold turkey I'm trying that to day and it is very hard also I would like to be able to quit in 1 month
chris....we do not quit any other way besides cold turkey. Any other method is just delaying the inevitable withdrawal. I would like for you to reconsider your method and join the community here at KTC. Our program has a proven track record and a very high success rate. Private message me with any questions you might have. I hope to be hearing from you soon.
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Hello everyone I'm A little lost I want to quit the can is where I say something if so I was hoping some one could give me advice on how to quot other than cold turkey I'm trying that to day and it is very hard also I would like to be able to quit in 1 month
chris....we do not quit any other way besides cold turkey. Any other method is just delaying the inevitable withdrawal. I would like for you to reconsider your method and join the community here at KTC. Our program has a proven track record and a very high success rate. Private message me with any questions you might have. I hope to be hearing from you soon.
You're not lost, you're right where you should be, cold turkey is the ONLY way to quit. We all did it and so can you. Yes, it is hard, but it is sooooo worth it. October (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/10359552/310/) is your quit group. Run in there and post roll to find out just how much support you will have and how many others are doing it with you. Quitting is NOT easy, but it IS absolutely doable!!
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Just wanted to say finding this site has been a blessing. Ton of great info that has help me to reach Day 33 nic free of a 34+ year addiction. Great to be quit with you.
Welcome aboard! Glad to have you. Let us know how we can help.
chewie
Dipstick, 37 days is a heck of a lot further then I ever got on my own. The only way I ever quit was this daily promise. If you aren't making it, you aren't reading enough. Guard your quit, fight to get on roll. Two posts in 30 something days usually means there's another day one soon. You don't want to go through this again, do you? Find your group and lend a hand. Let's roll!
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Add me to the list of people on the quest to quit. I am on day 6 of no nicotine after using for 15 years. The last few days have been rough, but I have held strong. No nicotine at all. My biggest problem is that I used to dip for relaxation after a long day at work and getting the kids to bed. I am not a drinker (and don't want to be one) so now I need to find a new way to have 'me' time to relax that doesn't involve a dip.
But I know I am doing this for the right reasons and I don't want to waste the hell I have gone through and go back to nicotine. I am hoping that the cravings lesson and I find a new way to relax and enjoy 'me' time that doesn't involve a dip.
Exercise helps with stress, sleeplessness and releases happy juice. Trident gum, seeds or fake chew can help fill the void on the oral side. Stay hydrated! None of this means much if you aren't on roll. Our quest is really just a 24 hour walk about with company. Step right up, shout if you need anything.
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Have any of you have tried the "fake" chew? Do you find that it helps or does it intensify your craving for the real thing? Which one is the best? I've tried smokey mountain and I can't say that I'm a big fan.
I used hooch wintergreen... helped quite a lot with the craves.
There are some pretty good reviews of all different products ------ HERE (http://blog.killthecan.org/reviews/).
Find what works for you, Christke. It may end up not being fake chew but there are other options. Commit to do whatever it takes to keep nicotine out of your system.
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Hello everyone I'm A little lost I want to quit the can is where I say something if so I was hoping some one could give me advice on how to quot other than cold turkey I'm trying that to day and it is very hard also I would like to be able to quit in 1 month
chris....we do not quit any other way besides cold turkey. Any other method is just delaying the inevitable withdrawal. I would like for you to reconsider your method and join the community here at KTC. Our program has a proven track record and a very high success rate. Private message me with any questions you might have. I hope to be hearing from you soon.
You're not lost, you're right where you should be, cold turkey is the ONLY way to quit. We all did it and so can you. Yes, it is hard, but it is sooooo worth it. October (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/10359552/310/) is your quit group. Run in there and post roll to find out just how much support you will have and how many others are doing it with you. Quitting is NOT easy, but it IS absolutely doable!!
Don't worry about 1 month; we quit one day at a time. I'm guessing your young by your post and suggest you need to adjust your attitude. Stand tall and show everyone your a man and can take control!
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7 days - The tricks my mind are playing on me are unbelievable 'bang head' . It's like my conscience keeps trying to get me to dip again by tricking me into thinking it's not that bad, or that I can have just one more dip. Not giving in though, this website is an incredible resource and reading the stories and struggles others are going through helps immensely.
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7 days - The tricks my mind are playing on me are unbelievable 'bang head' . It's like my conscience keeps trying to get me to dip again by tricking me into thinking it's not that bad, or that I can have just one more dip. Not giving in though, this website is an incredible resource and reading the stories and struggles others are going through helps immensely.
Fight.
Win.
You know what's easy? Dipping.
Know what's hard? Quitting.
Be hard, don't be easy.
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7 days - The tricks my mind are playing on me are unbelievable 'bang head' . It's like my conscience keeps trying to get me to dip again by tricking me into thinking it's not that bad, or that I can have just one more dip. Not giving in though, this website is an incredible resource and reading the stories and struggles others are going through helps immensely.
Fight.
Win.
You know what's easy? Dipping.
Know what's hard? Quitting.
Be hard, don't be easy.
You cannot have one. You Quit!
It will get better. I promise.
Keep Fighting!!!
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7 days - The tricks my mind are playing on me are unbelievable 'bang head' . It's like my conscience keeps trying to get me to dip again by tricking me into thinking it's not that bad, or that I can have just one more dip. Not giving in though, this website is an incredible resource and reading the stories and struggles others are going through helps immensely.
Fight.
Win.
You know what's easy? Dipping.
Know what's hard? Quitting.
Be hard, don't be easy.
You cannot have one. You Quit!
It will get better. I promise.
Keep Fighting!!!
1 dip = 1 can = 1 can a day = Full Blown Addiction..........It IS bad and NO, you can't have "just one"!!!!!!!
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7 days - The tricks my mind are playing on me are unbelievable 'bang head' . It's like my conscience keeps trying to get me to dip again by tricking me into thinking it's not that bad, or that I can have just one more dip. Not giving in though, this website is an incredible resource and reading the stories and struggles others are going through helps immensely.
Fight.
Win.
You know what's easy? Dipping.
Know what's hard? Quitting.
Be hard, don't be easy.
You cannot have one. You Quit!
It will get better. I promise.
Keep Fighting!!!
1 dip = 1 can = 1 can a day = Full Blown Addiction..........It IS bad and NO, you can't have "just one"!!!!!!!
^^^
This... is... brilliant.
Thanks for the reminder kdip.
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Not sure is the place to post. I've chewed for 33 years. I am 46 years old and started chewing during JV baseball. I have quit today for the last time. I would have had 4 chews by today, so pretty proud of myself. I notice that I am already telling people things I normally hold back..like the truth.
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Not sure is the place to post. I've chewed for 33 years. I am 46 years old and started chewing during JV baseball. I have quit today for the last time. I would have had 4 chews by today, so pretty proud of myself. I notice that I am already telling people things I normally hold back..like the truth.
It's liberating, isn't it? When you finally make that choice to kick her ass to the curb? It's a great feeling.
Now hold on 'cuz she don't go quietly.
Go to the Welcome Center (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/55560/) and start reading.
If you get all crunched up, send me a PM and I'll hook you up.
Welcome to your freedom, brother.
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Oh yah....answer me this. Beer has always been a trigger to start chewing again. Should I quit the beer also or learn to defeat the trigger and have a beer??
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Oh yah....answer me this. Beer has always been a trigger to start chewing again. Should I quit the beer also or learn to defeat the trigger and have a beer??
alcohol has ruined many quits, especially during the first month,
we do recommend to watch yourself, if not abstain during that time frame until you let your body get used to dealing with the absence of nicotine
then once there, and you learn the tools, work back in slowly if wanted.
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Oh yah....answer me this. Beer has always been a trigger to start chewing again. Should I quit the beer also or learn to defeat the trigger and have a beer??
alcohol has ruined many quits, especially during the first month,
we do recommend to watch yourself, if not abstain during that time frame until you let your body get used to dealing with the absence of nicotine
then once there, and you learn the tools, work back in slowly if wanted.
Yep. Alcohol can be a big trigger. Triggers can lead to the can early in your quit.
If beer is a trigger, learn to deal with that trigger. If that means you need to abstain for a while, then that's what it should mean.
For me, it meant not going to the same establishments for a while. But it also meant buying gas at a different station, not playing golf with certain folks, etc. Your mileage may vary.
chewie
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Oh yah....answer me this. Beer has always been a trigger to start chewing again. Should I quit the beer also or learn to defeat the trigger and have a beer??
alcohol has ruined many quits, especially during the first month,
we do recommend to watch yourself, if not abstain during that time frame until you let your body get used to dealing with the absence of nicotine
then once there, and you learn the tools, work back in slowly if wanted.
Yep. Alcohol can be a big trigger. Triggers can lead to the can early in your quit.
If beer is a trigger, learn to deal with that trigger. If that means you need to abstain for a while, then that's what it should mean.
For me, it meant not going to the same establishments for a while. But it also meant buying gas at a different station, not playing golf with certain folks, etc. Your mileage may vary.
chewie
The bigger question is - is a cold beer or two worth your freedom?
The truth is, I'll bet - you're 46 - you know the answer to this question, because you've tried to quit many times and caved. You KNOW what the deal is. You want US to tell you, "It'll be ok buddy. Go have your beers. You'll be fine."
I'm 44. It ain't going to be fine. Or fun. You're going to have to fucking work for this, and you better start right now. You would sure as shit give up on a couple beers if it interfeared with your dipping. I'll bet you've excused yourself from many situations in your life so you could go pack a fatty.
Well now, you have to do what ever you can to make that time so you WON'T pack your face.
Give up beer. Eat sunflower seeds. Don't go to the bar. Pay at the pump. Go to a different store. Skip the annual fishing trip. Blow some goats. What ever it takes, you need to do it.
Quitting is not a spectator sport. Participation is required.
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I LIKE THAT..QUITTING IS NOT A SPECTATOR SPORT.
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I LIKE THAT..QUITTING IS NOT A SPECTATOR SPORT.
Check your Inbox. Top right of screen.
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Blow some goats.
I'm curious how he knows blowing goat's works as a cure or as relief.
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Just registered today I'm on day one of quitting, I had quit for 4 years at one point then started an overnight position and had an overwhelming urge to dip and well I have in that was last year and now I have been on and off sense
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Day one over. Not that bad. Probably quitting a little easier without drinking beer at the same time.
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Blow some goats.
I'm curious how he knows blowing goat's works as a cure or as relief.
Quit... by any means necessary ;)
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Just registered today I'm on day one of quitting, I had quit for 4 years at one point then started an overnight position and had an overwhelming urge to dip and well I have in that was last year and now I have been on and off sense
Welcome aboard! Head over to October 2014 and introduce yourself! topic/10359552/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/10359552/)
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Just registered today I'm on day one of quitting, I had quit for 4 years at one point then started an overnight position and had an overwhelming urge to dip and well I have in that was last year and now I have been on and off sense
Welcome aboard! Head over to October 2014 and introduce yourself! topic/10359552/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/10359552/)
Psssst....Chews....He's be in the bad ass November group... ;)
topic/10423364/3/?x=90#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/10423364/3/?x=90#new)
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Just registered today I'm on day one of quitting, I had quit for 4 years at one point then started an overnight position and had an overwhelming urge to dip and well I have in that was last year and now I have been on and off sense
Welcome aboard! Head over to October 2014 and introduce yourself! topic/10359552/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/10359552/)
Psssst....Chews....He's be in the bad ass November group... ;)
topic/10423364/3/?x=90#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/10423364/3/?x=90#new)
Dammit.
I'm a noob...
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Day one over. Not that bad. Probably quitting a little easier without drinking beer at the same time.
Keep up the great work!!! It will get harder before it gets easier. I too caved multiple times by getting drunk often times with dippers and/or smokers. One dip or cig and I was on my way again. Quit on my own for several years and went back because I "felt" like it. Finally quit for good at age 50. Almost 6 years in I NEVER want to go back and that's why I am still here today. I am and always WILL be an addict. I have chosen to take control of my life and not use for today!!!!! You too can DO this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BEST DECISION you will ever make....
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Wonder if we could get one of the many programers to write a "Kill the Can" app, that would make it easier to post roll on a cell phone. Its easy on my puter and tablet, but a pain in the ass on the phone. Just a thought from a foggy and groggy newbie. 'archer'
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General quit discussion, questions, answers, etc.
Guests looking to quit looking for answers are welcome.
Hey Chewie, only been dippin' a few days now (since last friday) I regret every day of it... Goin' on day two tomorrow was only 1 - 2 pinches a day so I've never actually finished a tin. Plus it's expensive (30 bucks a tin) Anxiety REALLY sucks.. Should I be worried?
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General quit discussion, questions, answers, etc.
Guests looking to quit looking for answers are welcome.
Hey Chewie, only been dippin' a few days now (since last friday) I regret every day of it... Goin' on day two tomorrow was only 1 - 2 pinches a day so I've never actually finished a tin. Plus it's expensive (30 bucks a tin) Anxiety REALLY sucks.. Should I be worried?
This has a slight smell of troll, but just in case it's your youthfulness Everyone who puts the poison in their body should worry, your to young for us. Everyone here will tell you throw the shit away and run from it. If not soon you will be finishing those tins, daily. If you truly are serious, read the HOF speeches and words of wisdom. You will learn that all of us wish we'd never had that first dip!
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General quit discussion, questions, answers, etc.
Guests looking to quit looking for answers are welcome.
Hey Chewie, only been dippin' a few days now (since last friday) I regret every day of it... Goin' on day two tomorrow was only 1 - 2 pinches a day so I've never actually finished a tin. Plus it's expensive (30 bucks a tin) Anxiety REALLY sucks.. Should I be worried?
This has a slight smell of troll, but just in case it's your youthfulness Everyone who puts the poison in their body should worry, your to young for us. Everyone here will tell you throw the shit away and run from it. If not soon you will be finishing those tins, daily. If you truly are serious, read the HOF speeches and words of wisdom. You will learn that all of us wish we'd never had that first dip!
Will respond to your comment on the site as well, but I'd agree with Wt57 here... you're not "hooked" yet if you've only been dipping less than a week. Do yourself a favor and put it down and never look back.
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New Blog Post: Mark Your Calendar – August 12th, Hawk Returns To Chat!
http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/07/mark ... s-to-chat/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/07/mark-your-calendar-august-12th-hawk-returns-to-chat/)
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I'm on day 5 of my quit. Why are my eyes soooo bloodshot??? I look like I haven't slept in days..but I'm sleeping really well.
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I'm on day 5 of my quit. Why are my eyes soooo bloodshot??? I look like I haven't slept in days..but I'm sleeping really well.
Your body is flushing poisons....Nasty crap that has been in your system ever since you started. It takes some time to "get clean"....you are lucky you are sleeping well...Early on, I was waking at 2am every night and couldn't get back to sleep.
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Blow some goats.
I'm curious how he knows blowing goat's works as a cure or as relief.
Quit... by any means necessary ;)
How do you pull out one phrase and quote it in a post like this one rather than quoting the entire post?
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How do you pull out one phrase and quote it in a post like this one rather than quoting the entire post?
When you hit "quote" simply delete what you don't want in the bottom box.
http://awesomescreenshot.com/04538zyx07 (http://awesomescreenshot.com/04538zyx07)
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New Blog Post: Gator Sunflower Seed Chew Review
http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/08/gato ... ew-review/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/08/gator-sunflower-seed-chew-review/)
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New Blog Post: Jake’s Mint Chew – Blackberry Review
http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/08/jake ... ry-review/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/08/jakes-mint-chew-blackberry-review/)
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When you hit "quote" simply delete what you don't want in the bottom box.
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When you hit "quote" simply delete what you don't want in the bottom box.
http://awesomescreenshot.com/04538zyx07 (http://awesomescreenshot.com/04538zyx07)
got it. thanks!
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When you hit "quote" simply delete what you don't want in the bottom box.
http://awesomescreenshot.com/04538zyx07 (http://awesomescreenshot.com/04538zyx07)
got it. thanks!
If you go to Wildcard, there is a Test Thread were you can fuck around and try different ways to post 'n shit.
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Day 1 for me today. I have been through this before. I kind of know what to expect. The last time I tried to quit I made it 5 months. I gave in to the "one little dip" lie. Within a month I was back to a can a day. that was 3 years ago, and as of yesterday I was at just under 2 cans a day. i have been chewing for almost 20 years. This will be the last time that I quit. This is also the first time that I have used a forum like this. I am hoping that the added encouragment will help me stay quit this time for good. Excuse the short choppy writing. My head is kind of messed up right now and is really starting to pound. Oh well, I did this to myself so its time to make myself quit.
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Hey everyone, I never used this site to join a support group or anything like that, but I do want to thank this community for all the resources it has on this topic. I quit cold turkey on 08/01/13 and just celebrated my first year of "killing the can"! I could not have gotten to that point without the articles on many different subjects on this site and just wanted to express my gratitude to this site!
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Day 1 for me today. I have been through this before. I kind of know what to expect. The last time I tried to quit I made it 5 months. I gave in to the "one little dip" lie. Within a month I was back to a can a day. that was 3 years ago, and as of yesterday I was at just under 2 cans a day. i have been chewing for almost 20 years. This will be the last time that I quit. This is also the first time that I have used a forum like this. I am hoping that the added encouragment will help me stay quit this time for good. Excuse the short choppy writing. My head is kind of messed up right now and is really starting to pound. Oh well, I did this to myself so its time to make myself quit.
Hang in there bro... you're in the right place. Welcome aboard!
chewie
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Hey everyone, I never used this site to join a support group or anything like that, but I do want to thank this community for all the resources it has on this topic. I quit cold turkey on 08/01/13 and just celebrated my first year of "killing the can"! I could not have gotten to that point without the articles on many different subjects on this site and just wanted to express my gratitude to this site!
Thanks bear, and congrats on a year of freedom!!!
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Hey everyone, I never used this site to join a support group or anything like that, but I do want to thank this community for all the resources it has on this topic. I quit cold turkey on 08/01/13 and just celebrated my first year of "killing the can"! I could not have gotten to that point without the articles on many different subjects on this site and just wanted to express my gratitude to this site!
You're welcome ... and selfish ... but I'm glad you're quit. This site is more than a resource of information. If you have the tools and the desire, that's great ...but most here also rely on this family @ KTC to help us through the tough times any time it's needed. Brotherhood + Accountability. A dude having a great day in his quit pays it both forwards and backwards, realizing that without KTC ... he's signed-up for failure. A guy having a bad day knows there are brothers here for him to lean on. Even helping someone out personally helps the bad days of quit for a brother. This site is WAY more than a support group. I'm sorry you didn't stick around long enough to realize that.
Myself? I've only dipped once in my life. It started in 1982 and ended here in 2014 (it was a long fucking dip).
Congrats on the lap around the sun, a HUGE accomplishment out on your own. Maybe you could share some of the things you've learned over the last year?
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Hey everyone, I never used this site to join a support group or anything like that, but I do want to thank this community for all the resources it has on this topic. I quit cold turkey on 08/01/13 and just celebrated my first year of "killing the can"! I could not have gotten to that point without the articles on many different subjects on this site and just wanted to express my gratitude to this site!
You're welcome ... and selfish ... but I'm glad you're quit. This site is more than a resource of information. If you have the tools and the desire, that's great ...but most here also rely on this family @ KTC to help us through the tough times any time it's needed. Brotherhood + Accountability. A dude having a great day in his quit pays it both forwards and backwards, realizing that without KTC ... he's signed-up for failure. A guy having a bad day knows there are brothers here for him to lean on. Even helping someone out personally helps the bad days of quit for a brother. This site is WAY more than a support group. I'm sorry you didn't stick around long enough to realize that.
Myself? I've only dipped once in my life. It started in 1982 and ended here in 2014 (it was a long fucking dip).
Congrats on the lap around the sun, a HUGE accomplishment out on your own. Maybe you could share some of the things you've learned over the last year?
Smeds, totally agree on the support of others! My intention wasn't meant to downplay that. I had a good friend that was my support as he had quit for 2 years and anytime I needed to talk he was there for me. That was more powerful for myself than relying on people that I didn't really know. I support this site and forums, quit groups, etc 110%. I just wanted to express my gratitude toward everyone in this community as there are probably many other people like myself that were silent, but used this site on bad days to get through them. Sorry if that came off wrong!
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Hey everyone, I never used this site to join a support group or anything like that, but I do want to thank this community for all the resources it has on this topic. I quit cold turkey on 08/01/13 and just celebrated my first year of "killing the can"! I could not have gotten to that point without the articles on many different subjects on this site and just wanted to express my gratitude to this site!
You're welcome ... and selfish ... but I'm glad you're quit. This site is more than a resource of information. If you have the tools and the desire, that's great ...but most here also rely on this family @ KTC to help us through the tough times any time it's needed. Brotherhood + Accountability. A dude having a great day in his quit pays it both forwards and backwards, realizing that without KTC ... he's signed-up for failure. A guy having a bad day knows there are brothers here for him to lean on. Even helping someone out personally helps the bad days of quit for a brother. This site is WAY more than a support group. I'm sorry you didn't stick around long enough to realize that.
Myself? I've only dipped once in my life. It started in 1982 and ended here in 2014 (it was a long fucking dip).
Congrats on the lap around the sun, a HUGE accomplishment out on your own. Maybe you could share some of the things you've learned over the last year?
Smeds, totally agree on the support of others! My intention wasn't meant to downplay that. I had a good friend that was my support as he had quit for 2 years and anytime I needed to talk he was there for me. That was more powerful for myself than relying on people that I didn't really know. I support this site and forums, quit groups, etc 110%. I just wanted to express my gratitude toward everyone in this community as there are probably many other people like myself that were silent, but used this site on bad days to get through them. Sorry if that came off wrong!
It's all good ... thanks for the clarification. I still think my quit and the quit of others would have been stronger with you here posting supports and confusions and calls for help and victories. I honestly am impressed with your one year, and think its cool KTC had a hand in it (in any shape). Later Beardt ... stay quit!
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Day 1 for me today. I have been through this before. I kind of know what to expect. The last time I tried to quit I made it 5 months. I gave in to the "one little dip" lie. Within a month I was back to a can a day. that was 3 years ago, and as of yesterday I was at just under 2 cans a day. i have been chewing for almost 20 years. This will be the last time that I quit. This is also the first time that I have used a forum like this. I am hoping that the added encouragment will help me stay quit this time for good. Excuse the short choppy writing. My head is kind of messed up right now and is really starting to pound. Oh well, I did this to myself so its time to make myself quit.
Hang in there bro... you're in the right place. Welcome aboard!
chewie
Day2
A little better. Not much though. I feel a little more "spaced out" than yesterday. Finding it hard to concentrate on work. I will get through this day and tomorrow will be better. Thank you to everone for your support.
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Day 1 for me today. I have been through this before. I kind of know what to expect. The last time I tried to quit I made it 5 months. I gave in to the "one little dip" lie. Within a month I was back to a can a day. that was 3 years ago, and as of yesterday I was at just under 2 cans a day. i have been chewing for almost 20 years. This will be the last time that I quit. This is also the first time that I have used a forum like this. I am hoping that the added encouragment will help me stay quit this time for good. Excuse the short choppy writing. My head is kind of messed up right now and is really starting to pound. Oh well, I did this to myself so its time to make myself quit.
Hang in there bro... you're in the right place. Welcome aboard!
chewie
Day2
A little better. Not much though. I feel a little more "spaced out" than yesterday. Finding it hard to concentrate on work. I will get through this day and tomorrow will be better. Thank you to everone for your support.
Welcome to what we refer to as "the fog". It will lift eventually, but until then you're going to feel sort of drunk. Ride it out. You're on the right track.
Here's some "fog" reading for you if you can get through it ;)
The Fog Of Quitting Dip - http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures ... tting-dip/ (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/the-fog-of-quitting-dip/)
I'm really dizzy (foggy). How long will this last? - http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/ask ... this-last/ (http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/ask-the-experts-faq/im-really-dizzy-foggy-how-long-will-this-last/)
Nutrition When Quitting Smokeless Tobacco, Dip Chew - http://www.killthecan.org/nutrition-whe ... -dip-chew/ (http://www.killthecan.org/nutrition-when-quitting-smokeless-tobacco-dip-chew/)
chewie
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Jim Kelly's human side proving to be far greater than his impressive career
http://www.cbssports.com/general/writer ... ive-career (http://www.cbssports.com/general/writer/gregg-doyel/24648769/jim-kellys-human-side-proving-to-be-far-greater-than-his-impressive-career)
KELLY... TOUGH.
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Jim Kelly's human side proving to be far greater than his impressive career
http://www.cbssports.com/general/writer ... ive-career (http://www.cbssports.com/general/writer/gregg-doyel/24648769/jim-kellys-human-side-proving-to-be-far-greater-than-his-impressive-career)
KELLY... TOUGH.
Indeed!
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2nd day. Very tough. Been reading as much as I can on this site. Very glad I came across it. I know I am not alone. Have tried before but have failed every time. Need all the support I can get. Hope I am posting this correctly because my head is in a fog and hurts pretty bad. One day at a time.
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Jim Kelly's human side proving to be far greater than his impressive career
http://www.cbssports.com/general/writer ... ive-career (http://www.cbssports.com/general/writer/gregg-doyel/24648769/jim-kellys-human-side-proving-to-be-far-greater-than-his-impressive-career)
KELLY... TOUGH.
Indeed!
Day 2 not as bad as i expected....still going strong! Day 2 no nic!!!
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Jim Kelly's human side proving to be far greater than his impressive career
http://www.cbssports.com/general/writer ... ive-career (http://www.cbssports.com/general/writer/gregg-doyel/24648769/jim-kellys-human-side-proving-to-be-far-greater-than-his-impressive-career)
KELLY... TOUGH.
I saw the piece during the HOF game and had no idea they had removed a whole side of his jaw. Crazy stuff.
I've never heard a straight answer as to whether his cancer is from chewing? Do we know?
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Jim Kelly's human side proving to be far greater than his impressive career
http://www.cbssports.com/general/writer ... ive-career (http://www.cbssports.com/general/writer/gregg-doyel/24648769/jim-kellys-human-side-proving-to-be-far-greater-than-his-impressive-career)
KELLY... TOUGH.
I saw the piece during the HOF game and had no idea they had removed a whole side of his jaw. Crazy stuff.
I've never heard a straight answer as to whether his cancer is from chewing? Do we know?
I don't think I've seen a definitive "answer" to that question either. Doctors (in general) hate to go on reocord with anything definitive.
What I can say is this... both Kelly Gwynn were regular dippers for years.
Both Kelly Gwynn have / had cancer.
Draw your own conclusions. I know I have.
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Im right with you time wise. Today is my 3rd day. It does get easier. Good luck and dont cave. I had a massive craving last night but it went away after about 10 mins. I just read some posts on here until it did. This site will remind you the reason that you are quitting.
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It's funny how i used to stay away from the horrer stories like gwynn, kelly, rick bender and others when i used to dip. But now i cling onto these stories because this is the reality of doing this stuff. You can try to avoid consequences all your life but it will eventually come back to get you if not taken care of. I've always tried to plan when i'm going to quit. Maybe 6 months from now, 1 year, 2 year. But the longer i waited, the harder it was for me to quit and the higher the risk i put myself in of getting cancer.
There has been some that dipped for years and hasnt had any major problem, others unfortunately did. But for us personally, we dont know if it could happen to us because we dont know our future. So the question is... is it worth the risk?
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It's funny how i used to stay away from the horrer stories like gwynn, kelly, rick bender and others when i used to dip. But now i cling onto these stories because this is the reality of doing this stuff. You can try to avoid consequences all your life but it will eventually come back to get you if not taken care of. I've always tried to plan when i'm going to quit. Maybe 6 months from now, 1 year, 2 year. But the longer i waited, the harder it was for me to quit and the higher the risk i put myself in of getting cancer.
There has been some that dipped for years and hasnt had any major problem, others unfortunately did. But for us personally, we dont know if it could happen to us because we dont know our future. So the question is... is it worth the risk?
It's like playing Russian Roulette!
You never know when the gun is going to fire!
Doesn't make much sense to play the game, does it?
Keep strong and Keep Quit
You can do this.
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It's funny how i used to stay away from the horrer stories like gwynn, kelly, rick bender and others when i used to dip. But now i cling onto these stories because this is the reality of doing this stuff. You can try to avoid consequences all your life but it will eventually come back to get you if not taken care of. I've always tried to plan when i'm going to quit. Maybe 6 months from now, 1 year, 2 year. But the longer i waited, the harder it was for me to quit and the higher the risk i put myself in of getting cancer.
There has been some that dipped for years and hasnt had any major problem, others unfortunately did. But for us personally, we dont know if it could happen to us because we dont know our future. So the question is... is it worth the risk?
It's like playing Russian Roulette!
You never know when the gun is going to fire!
Doesn't make much sense to play the game, does it?
Keep strong and Keep Quit
You can do this.
so Jim Kelly did use dip?
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It's funny how i used to stay away from the horrer stories like gwynn, kelly, rick bender and others when i used to dip. But now i cling onto these stories because this is the reality of doing this stuff. You can try to avoid consequences all your life but it will eventually come back to get you if not taken care of. I've always tried to plan when i'm going to quit. Maybe 6 months from now, 1 year, 2 year. But the longer i waited, the harder it was for me to quit and the higher the risk i put myself in of getting cancer.
There has been some that dipped for years and hasnt had any major problem, others unfortunately did. But for us personally, we dont know if it could happen to us because we dont know our future. So the question is... is it worth the risk?
It's like playing Russian Roulette!
You never know when the gun is going to fire!
Doesn't make much sense to play the game, does it?
Keep strong and Keep Quit
You can do this.
so Jim Kelly did use dip?
From folks that are big Bills fans.. yes, regularly.
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Hey guys James here,I need to quit because I am worried. My last dip was yesterday and I have been dipping since I was 16 until my current age of 25. I started off slow in the beginning going from 1 can every 3 days until I reached a high of 1 can every day. So that is 9 years of poison to the body. I am starting to get worried because I've noticed within a year that something doesn't seem quite too right. I've been developing bad acid reflux due to my poor diet over a years span (before my poor diet I've been a gym rat for atleast 7 years with a good diet) I've started to notice that when I have these episodes of acid reflux, I notice areas of my mouth including my lips feel unusually different. It's almost like my reflux activates nerves in my mouth. This is hard for me to explain and I was really hoping someone has similar stories that can help ease my stress over this. Also, adding to this I would like to mention that certain head movements (not all of the time) make the area of my neck that meets the jaw feel somewhat uncomfortable (not painful but a noticeable feeling) I am just worried about this dipping situation, if I could I would have never of picked up this habit but we all know that's not possible.
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Hey guys James here,I need to quit because I am worried. My last dip was yesterday and I have been dipping since I was 16 until my current age of 25. I started off slow in the beginning going from 1 can every 3 days until I reached a high of 1 can every day. So that is 9 years of poison to the body. I am starting to get worried because I've noticed within a year that something doesn't seem quite too right. I've been developing bad acid reflux due to my poor diet over a years span (before my poor diet I've been a gym rat for atleast 7 years with a good diet) I've started to notice that when I have these episodes of acid reflux, I notice areas of my mouth including my lips feel unusually different. It's almost like my reflux activates nerves in my mouth. This is hard for me to explain and I was really hoping someone has similar stories that can help ease my stress over this. Also, adding to this I would like to mention that certain head movements (not all of the time) make the area of my neck that meets the jaw feel somewhat uncomfortable (not painful but a noticeable feeling) I am just worried about this dipping situation, if I could I would have never of picked up this habit but we all know that's not possible.
Read over this link and see if it helps answer/address some of your concerns. (http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/what-to-expect-when-you-quit-dipping/)
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It's funny how i used to stay away from the horrer stories like gwynn, kelly, rick bender and others when i used to dip. But now i cling onto these stories because this is the reality of doing this stuff. You can try to avoid consequences all your life but it will eventually come back to get you if not taken care of. I've always tried to plan when i'm going to quit. Maybe 6 months from now, 1 year, 2 year. But the longer i waited, the harder it was for me to quit and the higher the risk i put myself in of getting cancer.
There has been some that dipped for years and hasnt had any major problem, others unfortunately did. But for us personally, we dont know if it could happen to us because we dont know our future. So the question is... is it worth the risk?
It's like playing Russian Roulette!
You never know when the gun is going to fire!
Doesn't make much sense to play the game, does it?
Keep strong and Keep Quit
You can do this.
so Jim Kelly did use dip?
From folks that are big Bills fans.. yes, regularly.
I heard that John Elway and Dan Morino did as well. Well sad to hear that Jim Kelly may have done this to himself, but that doesn't mean I wont pray for him and stand behind him because this could've been any of us
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Hey guys James here,I need to quit because I am worried. My last dip was yesterday and I have been dipping since I was 16 until my current age of 25. I started off slow in the beginning going from 1 can every 3 days until I reached a high of 1 can every day. So that is 9 years of poison to the body. I am starting to get worried because I've noticed within a year that something doesn't seem quite too right. I've been developing bad acid reflux due to my poor diet over a years span (before my poor diet I've been a gym rat for atleast 7 years with a good diet) I've started to notice that when I have these episodes of acid reflux, I notice areas of my mouth including my lips feel unusually different. It's almost like my reflux activates nerves in my mouth. This is hard for me to explain and I was really hoping someone has similar stories that can help ease my stress over this. Also, adding to this I would like to mention that certain head movements (not all of the time) make the area of my neck that meets the jaw feel somewhat uncomfortable (not painful but a noticeable feeling) I am just worried about this dipping situation, if I could I would have never of picked up this habit but we all know that's not possible.
Go to the Doctor, anything we can tell you is mostly anecdotal. See a professional, now.
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Hey guys James here,I need to quit because I am worried. My last dip was yesterday and I have been dipping since I was 16 until my current age of 25. I started off slow in the beginning going from 1 can every 3 days until I reached a high of 1 can every day. So that is 9 years of poison to the body. I am starting to get worried because I've noticed within a year that something doesn't seem quite too right. I've been developing bad acid reflux due to my poor diet over a years span (before my poor diet I've been a gym rat for atleast 7 years with a good diet) I've started to notice that when I have these episodes of acid reflux, I notice areas of my mouth including my lips feel unusually different. It's almost like my reflux activates nerves in my mouth. This is hard for me to explain and I was really hoping someone has similar stories that can help ease my stress over this. Also, adding to this I would like to mention that certain head movements (not all of the time) make the area of my neck that meets the jaw feel somewhat uncomfortable (not painful but a noticeable feeling) I am just worried about this dipping situation, if I could I would have never of picked up this habit but we all know that's not possible.
Go to the Doctor, anything we can tell you is mostly anecdotal. See a professional, now.
Agree with Slug. If you are that worried, you need a professional, and we are not Dr's.
It's probably just your body freaking out, but it would be best to hear that from a physician after he has done a thorough exam.
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It's funny how i used to stay away from the horrer stories like gwynn, kelly, rick bender and others when i used to dip. But now i cling onto these stories because this is the reality of doing this stuff. You can try to avoid consequences all your life but it will eventually come back to get you if not taken care of. I've always tried to plan when i'm going to quit. Maybe 6 months from now, 1 year, 2 year. But the longer i waited, the harder it was for me to quit and the higher the risk i put myself in of getting cancer.
There has been some that dipped for years and hasnt had any major problem, others unfortunately did. But for us personally, we dont know if it could happen to us because we dont know our future. So the question is... is it worth the risk?
It's like playing Russian Roulette!
You never know when the gun is going to fire!
Doesn't make much sense to play the game, does it?
Keep strong and Keep Quit
You can do this.
so Jim Kelly did use dip?
I've been a Bills fan my whole life. Jim Kelly was my favorite player growing up. I can't say that I've ever heard that he was a dipper, however, he is a good 'ol boy, loves to hunt, etc...so I would not be at all surprised if he was.
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I have noticed it is easier to rack up the 100's after you hit 1000 with posts. Why is that?
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I have noticed it is easier to rack up the 100's after you hit 1000 with posts. Why is that?
1 word post, 2 word post, 3 word post, this or that......
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'flush' I feel that this is the best description of how I'm feeling right now
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'flush' I feel that this is the best description of how I'm feeling right now
I see you posted day 12 in your group. Feel free to post questions or how you're feeling in your group. Plenty of folks in there are probably feeling the same way and it may get some discussion going.
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A reminder about tomorrow night and Hawk visiting chat. For those who use fake, I know the owner of Hooch has offered some freebies and/or discounts to folks who are in chat in the past.
http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/07/mark ... s-to-chat/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/07/mark-your-calendar-august-12th-hawk-returns-to-chat/)
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Is there a way I can get notifications when someone posts on my introduction? Either email or via PM? Or if someone posts on a topic I have posted to as well? I hope this is the right place to ask such a question. If not, you can kick my ass out and tell me where to go. Thanks and as always, Quit On brothers!
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Is there a way I can get notifications when someone posts on my introduction? Either email or via PM? Or if someone posts on a topic I have posted to as well? I hope this is the right place to ask such a question. If not, you can kick my ass out and tell me where to go. Thanks and as always, Quit On brothers!
Look at the bottom of this screen. Button says, "Track Topic"
Click it, and it gives you options on how to be notified if someone posts in that topic.
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A reminder about tomorrow night and Hawk visiting chat. For those who use fake, I know the owner of Hooch has offered some freebies and/or discounts to folks who are in chat in the past.
http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/07/mark ... s-to-chat/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/07/mark-your-calendar-august-12th-hawk-returns-to-chat/)
Bump.
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As of right now, I am two days on the quit and I have a mild headache. Will taking pain medication like tylenol or an anti-inflammatory help?
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As of right now, I am two days on the quit and I have a mild headache. Will taking pain medication like tylenol or an anti-inflammatory help?
It will.
It won't make your craving go away, but your headache may be helped a bit. You should also drink a shit ton of water. Flush the nic out of your body.
Congrats on day 2 and welcome!
chewie
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Hi everyone,
I am 29 , over a month now tobacco and chew free :)
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Hi everyone,
I just joined here. I have chewed since I was a teenage, I am 29 yrs old as of today. I haven't chewed in a couple weeks and everything is going great so far. I joined this forum and website, because I wanted to share my experience with quitting and how bad my habit has been over the years.
Up until I quit, I was chewing every 30 minutes, or less. I would intentionally leave my office at work or find time to sit in my car or be somewhere private so I could have a dip. That right there sounds very bad, mentally blocked everything else out so I could enjoy the nicotine and dopamine rush. So since I was chewing so much, it had eaten away at productive time in life and at work, so I was less effective.
One of the major reasons I would say over the years I continued to chew, is because I am a very hyperactive person and getting a stim from dipping, would help me sit still in one place for an hour or so or more. It helped me mellow out, or atleast I thought so. But what it really did was make me not want to have discussion and/or communicate with others in my work life and personal life. Relationships for me fell apart. My habit took over my life.
I want to skip now until now, today, and how I have successfully not chewed now and not had any urges. This may come off and sound very bad, but I believe in one step at a time and sometimes if you have an addictive personality, like me, you shouldn't just stop things cold turkey.
So what I have done is drink beer. Yea, I know, sounds bad. But I am not a beer guy, usually drink liquor, but for some weird reason for me, drinking Bud Light and lighter beers curb my appetite for a dip. We are all different, and what works for me may not work for you, but maybe its worth a try?
I know this much, I am just waiting for all those toxins to leave my body because I won't ever dip again. I have treated people poorly and missed out on a lot of things over the past decade, simply to want to sit at home in front of the TV and enjoy a dip, when the truth is - I really didnt enjoy it or have a good time at all.
I hope this post is helpful to anyone that reads it.
Thanks.
Hi. Welcome.
I think you have it a little backwards. We are not here to have you tell us how to Quit. We are here to help YOU, because as far as Quitting goes, you don't know dick about it.
Yet.
Instead of all the accolades you're expecting from everyone here on what you wrote, how about you start reading about what Quitting is all about, because it's definitely NOT about swtching from liquor to Bud Lite.
Happy Birthday, btw. I was about 29 when I finally started to pull my head out of my ass and learn that I don't know everything.
Let me know if you need any help,
-Nolaq
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Hi everyone,
I just joined here. I have chewed since I was a teenage, I am 29 yrs old as of today. I haven't chewed in a couple weeks and everything is going great so far. I joined this forum and website, because I wanted to share my experience with quitting and how bad my habit has been over the years.
Up until I quit, I was chewing every 30 minutes, or less. I would intentionally leave my office at work or find time to sit in my car or be somewhere private so I could have a dip. That right there sounds very bad, mentally blocked everything else out so I could enjoy the nicotine and dopamine rush. So since I was chewing so much, it had eaten away at productive time in life and at work, so I was less effective.
One of the major reasons I would say over the years I continued to chew, is because I am a very hyperactive person and getting a stim from dipping, would help me sit still in one place for an hour or so or more. It helped me mellow out, or atleast I thought so. But what it really did was make me not want to have discussion and/or communicate with others in my work life and personal life. Relationships for me fell apart. My habit took over my life.
I want to skip now until now, today, and how I have successfully not chewed now and not had any urges. This may come off and sound very bad, but I believe in one step at a time and sometimes if you have an addictive personality, like me, you shouldn't just stop things cold turkey.
So what I have done is drink beer. Yea, I know, sounds bad. But I am not a beer guy, usually drink liquor, but for some weird reason for me, drinking Bud Light and lighter beers curb my appetite for a dip. We are all different, and what works for me may not work for you, but maybe its worth a try?
I know this much, I am just waiting for all those toxins to leave my body because I won't ever dip again. I have treated people poorly and missed out on a lot of things over the past decade, simply to want to sit at home in front of the TV and enjoy a dip, when the truth is - I really didnt enjoy it or have a good time at all.
I hope this post is helpful to anyone that reads it.
Thanks.
Welcome Three! Lets start a new relationship, one that revolves around quitting. Here you don't have to sit in the corner and feel the pain. We're all quitting today, just like you. The fine folks in Novemenber will be your support, as well as all other members. But reach out to them, get engaged and post roll every day.
My advice, go easy on the beers, replace it with some exercise or food. While I was a user, I rarely ate breakfast, ate lunch in about 3 mins, and ate supper in about 5. All so I could have time for my fix. Now I embrace meal time, each bite is pleasure, plus I spend more time with my family.
see you on the rolls!
tarp
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Hi everyone,
I just joined here. I have chewed since I was a teenage, I am 29 yrs old as of today. I haven't chewed in a couple weeks and everything is going great so far. I joined this forum and website, because I wanted to share my experience with quitting and how bad my habit has been over the years.
Up until I quit, I was chewing every 30 minutes, or less. I would intentionally leave my office at work or find time to sit in my car or be somewhere private so I could have a dip. That right there sounds very bad, mentally blocked everything else out so I could enjoy the nicotine and dopamine rush. So since I was chewing so much, it had eaten away at productive time in life and at work, so I was less effective.
One of the major reasons I would say over the years I continued to chew, is because I am a very hyperactive person and getting a stim from dipping, would help me sit still in one place for an hour or so or more. It helped me mellow out, or atleast I thought so. But what it really did was make me not want to have discussion and/or communicate with others in my work life and personal life. Relationships for me fell apart. My habit took over my life.
I want to skip now until now, today, and how I have successfully not chewed now and not had any urges. This may come off and sound very bad, but I believe in one step at a time and sometimes if you have an addictive personality, like me, you shouldn't just stop things cold turkey.
So what I have done is drink beer. Yea, I know, sounds bad. But I am not a beer guy, usually drink liquor, but for some weird reason for me, drinking Bud Light and lighter beers curb my appetite for a dip. We are all different, and what works for me may not work for you, but maybe its worth a try?
I know this much, I am just waiting for all those toxins to leave my body because I won't ever dip again. I have treated people poorly and missed out on a lot of things over the past decade, simply to want to sit at home in front of the TV and enjoy a dip, when the truth is - I really didnt enjoy it or have a good time at all.
I hope this post is helpful to anyone that reads it.
Thanks.
Welcome Three! Lets start a new relationship, one that revolves around quitting. Here you don't have to sit in the corner and feel the pain. We're all quitting today, just like you. The fine folks in Novemenber will be your support, as well as all other members. But reach out to them, get engaged and post roll every day.
My advice, go easy on the beers, replace it with some exercise or food. While I was a user, I rarely ate breakfast, ate lunch in about 3 mins, and ate supper in about 5. All so I could have time for my fix. Now I embrace meal time, each bite is pleasure, plus I spend more time with my family.
see you on the rolls!
tarp
Freedom is NOT a move from one substance to another!
Here at KTC we learn to channel our addictive tendencies into positive, healing behaviors.
If a dumbass like me could do it, so can you.
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Hi Everyone,
I have just joined the program. I have chewed since the 7th grade. Today is my first day of quitting. I'm nervous as hell!!!! I don't want to fail, come up short, or just quit quitting. I have tried before, but I found this site and I hope I get the support from other who have dealt with this like me. I have people telling me just walk away, but they never had done this. It is harder then they think. Any insights, support you wish to give me I will take.
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So I am pretty sure this is common, but did anyone deal with a sore throat after they quit? I am on day 3 and noticed a little irritation in my throat. Last time I tried to quit a number of years ago, I ended up getting sick and noticed the same thing...sore throat, congestion, etc. Just wondering if anyone else has gone through this. Then again, I could just be getting a cold.
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Hey guys James here,I need to quit because I am worried. My last dip was yesterday and I have been dipping since I was 16 until my current age of 25. I started off slow in the beginning going from 1 can every 3 days until I reached a high of 1 can every day. So that is 9 years of poison to the body. I am starting to get worried because I've noticed within a year that something doesn't seem quite too right. I've been developing bad acid reflux due to my poor diet over a years span (before my poor diet I've been a gym rat for atleast 7 years with a good diet) I've started to notice that when I have these episodes of acid reflux, I notice areas of my mouth including my lips feel unusually different. It's almost like my reflux activates nerves in my mouth. This is hard for me to explain and I was really hoping someone has similar stories that can help ease my stress over this. Also, adding to this I would like to mention that certain head movements (not all of the time) make the area of my neck that meets the jaw feel somewhat uncomfortable (not painful but a noticeable feeling) I am just worried about this dipping situation, if I could I would have never of picked up this habit but we all know that's not possible.
Go to the Doctor, anything we can tell you is mostly anecdotal. See a professional, now.
Agree with Slug. If you are that worried, you need a professional, and we are not Dr's.
It's probably just your body freaking out, but it would be best to hear that from a physician after he has done a thorough exam.
Definitely hit up the doctor. But, with acid reflux, the acid that is coming up may be getting to your mouth and causing additional erosion to your gums and teeth. The neck issue could be a muscle spasm from the acid reflux episodes. When you burp from the acid reflux you are putting additional tension on muscles that you weren't before...that and your stress level is not helping the situation. Go to the doctor!!
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Hi Everyone,
I have just joined the program. I have chewed since the 7th grade. Today is my first day of quitting. I'm nervous as hell!!!! I don't want to fail, come up short, or just quit quitting. I have tried before, but I found this site and I hope I get the support from other who have dealt with this like me. I have people telling me just walk away, but they never had done this. It is harder then they think. Any insights, support you wish to give me I will take.
I wanted to let you know that you have already started off differently this time. You are here because you realized you can't do this alone. Wether this choice was purposeful or just because, now you are faced with the most important choice of your quit....
Are you ready to put your trust in all of us, and your quit group? If the answer is yes, then start sharing the hell out of your email address and cell phone number. This constant nagging reminder that they will blow me up if I slip up. Then what's even worse, is answering the three questions.
But if you want to go through the motions, that is a choice also, but ask any of the vets around here how well that works out
There's a third option you go through the motions and you will cave....and never return.
Then after that choice you are faced with the same three options every day for the rest of your life. But the most important thing is everyone that active here is making the same choice.
So now here is the question what is your choice?
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Hi Everyone,
I have just joined the program. I have chewed since the 7th grade. Today is my first day of quitting. I'm nervous as hell!!!! I don't want to fail, come up short, or just quit quitting. I have tried before, but I found this site and I hope I get the support from other who have dealt with this like me. I have people telling me just walk away, but they never had done this. It is harder then they think. Any insights, support you wish to give me I will take.
Welcome.
My advice - Don't dip. 'winker'
In addition, get on the site and read, read, read. Post roll, get active, establish cyber relationships that will grow into something so real, you can't believe it. We know what we say, eventhough many don't want to listen or believe us. Reach out when you need anything.
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Hello Everyone,
I just joined the program. I had a friend recommend it to me because of the success and accountability it has given him. I'll be 40 next week and have been dipping since I was 15. I actually have not had a dip since last Thursday, August 7th 2014. It has finally came to mind that I realized if I could not kick the can, I felt like I could never accomplish anything. Plus I do not want my son dipping. He has never seen me dip. Yep, I was a ninja dipper around him. Quitting is for me, but for him too. So far, my cravings have really not been that bad. I have never been a can a day dipper anyway. Generally a can every other day. So I appreciate any support and would be glad to help others.
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Hello Everyone,
I just joined the program. I had a friend recommend it to me because of the success and accountability it has given him. I'll be 40 next week and have been dipping since I was 15. I actually have not had a dip since last Thursday, August 7th 2014. It has finally came to mind that I realized if I could not kick the can, I felt like I could never accomplish anything. Plus I do not want my son dipping. He has never seen me dip. Yep, I was a ninja dipper around him. Quitting is for me, but for him too. So far, my cravings have really not been that bad. I have never been a can a day dipper anyway. Generally a can every other day. So I appreciate any support and would be glad to help others.
Welcome and congrats on a tremendous decision! Also, HUGE props on 8 days of freedom on your own!
Head over to the November 2014 HOF class and introduce yourself: topic/10423364/38/?x=90#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/10423364/38/?x=90#new)
Let us know how we can help!
chewie
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Hello Everyone,
I just joined the program. I had a friend recommend it to me because of the success and accountability it has given him. I'll be 40 next week and have been dipping since I was 15. I actually have not had a dip since last Thursday, August 7th 2014. It has finally came to mind that I realized if I could not kick the can, I felt like I could never accomplish anything. Plus I do not want my son dipping. He has never seen me dip. Yep, I was a ninja dipper around him. Quitting is for me, but for him too. So far, my cravings have really not been that bad. I have never been a can a day dipper anyway. Generally a can every other day. So I appreciate any support and would be glad to help others.
Welcome! I am right there with you, the cravings have not been awful but I am definitely still feeling the fog. I too was about a can every other day as well. I decided it was time to quit when I was able to fit about 1/3 of a can in my mouth on each chew. I have a son that is due to be born in November so that is additional motivation, but agree that the decision to quit is for me to live. Let me know if you need anything!
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I think since we changed software awhile back there are a lot of members that have their PM turned off. Is that because they want it off or just don't know that it is off. I know I had to turn mine ON after the changeover.
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I think since we changed software awhile back there are a lot of members that have their PM turned off. Is that because they want it off or just don't know that it is off. I know I had to turn mine ON after the changeover.
If they're off, it's because they turned them off. As far as I know, the software switch did not affect any PM settings (with the exception of email notifications when you get a PM which is no longer an option).
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Hi Everyone,
Well, here we go. 37 years old, chewing for 4 years. One can every 1-2 days. This s**t has become my crutch for anxiety, and I hate it. I want to quit. My quit date is planned for 8/25/14. Frankly, I am scared, but want to quit this nasty f****ng habit. Thank God I found this group! Words of support needed!
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Hi Everyone,
Well, here we go. 37 years old, chewing for 4 years. One can every 1-2 days. This s**t has become my crutch for anxiety, and I hate it. I want to quit. My quit date is planned for 8/25/14. Frankly, I am scared, but want to quit this nasty f****ng habit. Thank God I found this group! Words of support needed!
What is so special about the 25th. Why not just quit now?
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Hi Everyone,
Well, here we go. 37 years old, chewing for 4 years. One can every 1-2 days. This s**t has become my crutch for anxiety, and I hate it. I want to quit. My quit date is planned for 8/25/14. Frankly, I am scared, but want to quit this nasty f****ng habit. Thank God I found this group! Words of support needed!
What is so special about the 25th. Why not just quit now?
Reading the info posts they suggested to cut back for a week before quitting cold turkey. So I'm giving myself a week. Or should I stop right the f**ck now?
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Hi Everyone,
Well, here we go. 37 years old, chewing for 4 years. One can every 1-2 days. This s**t has become my crutch for anxiety, and I hate it. I want to quit. My quit date is planned for 8/25/14. Frankly, I am scared, but want to quit this nasty f****ng habit. Thank God I found this group! Words of support needed!
What is so special about the 25th. Why not just quit now?
That's a pretty outstanding question.
If you quit today, you'd be nictoine free and quit 7 days already by your proposed day...
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Hi Everyone,
Well, here we go. 37 years old, chewing for 4 years. One can every 1-2 days. This s**t has become my crutch for anxiety, and I hate it. I want to quit. My quit date is planned for 8/25/14. Frankly, I am scared, but want to quit this nasty f****ng habit. Thank God I found this group! Words of support needed!
What is so special about the 25th. Why not just quit now?
Reading the info posts they suggested to cut back for a week before quitting cold turkey. So I'm giving myself a week. Or should I stop right the f**ck now?
NOW YOU'RE TALKING!!!!
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Hi Everyone,
Well, here we go. 37 years old, chewing for 4 years. One can every 1-2 days. This s**t has become my crutch for anxiety, and I hate it. I want to quit. My quit date is planned for 8/25/14. Frankly, I am scared, but want to quit this nasty f****ng habit. Thank God I found this group! Words of support needed!
What is so special about the 25th. Why not just quit now?
Reading the info posts they suggested to cut back for a week before quitting cold turkey. So I'm giving myself a week. Or should I stop right the f**ck now?
NOW YOU'RE TALKING!!!!
Bingo, Bango, Bongo. Flush your stash. Post up day 1 in November, make an intro and prepare for all kinds of crazy support. You can do it, we all did.
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I think since we changed software awhile back there are a lot of members that have their PM turned off. Is that because they want it off or just don't know that it is off. I know I had to turn mine ON after the changeover.
If they're off, it's because they turned them off. As far as I know, the software switch did not affect any PM settings (with the exception of email notifications when you get a PM which is no longer an option).
Thanks Chewie
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Hi folks. Tony here, from Nov '14. Just wanted to vent about how much it pisses me off when anyone who is in the process of quitting talks about how much they love/miss their brand of choice. I wasted almost a decade killing myself with the nasty shit. Countless dollars that could be used to pay off my education. Instead, all i got was receded gums and a lifetime of worry about every sore or irregularity that shows up in my mouth. I don't understand how a quitter could possibly say they love or miss it. I think my hatred of chewing and of myself for doing it so long is a huge part of my motivation. Sorry for the rant, just think its BS when I see quitters talk positively of the very thing that has ruined portions of all of our lives, and i think im just having some dip rage. FUCK NIC.
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Hi folks. Tony here, from Nov '14. Just wanted to vent about how much it pisses me off when anyone who is in the process of quitting talks about how much they love/miss their brand of choice. I wasted almost a decade killing myself with the nasty shit. Countless dollars that could be used to pay off my education. Instead, all i got was receded gums and a lifetime of worry about every sore or irregularity that shows up in my mouth. I don't understand how a quitter could possibly say they love or miss it. I think my hatred of chewing and of myself for doing it so long is a huge part of my motivation. Sorry for the rant, just think its BS when I see quitters talk positively of the very thing that has ruined portions of all of our lives, and i think im just having some dip rage. FUCK NIC.
That is the right mindset, young jedi!
What you are describing is called romanticizing dip... and if not addressed will always prove deadly to a quit.
This addiction is like any other addiction in most ways. For some the sense of "loss" when they quit can be quite acute. My recommendation to those folks is to remember why they are here, look at cancer pictures, read the stories at the top of words of wisdom, and read all of the unethical things that big tobacco has done to keep generations of people hooked, selling death for profit. In short, those people need to get pissed at what was done to them... and how it could have impacted them and their family.
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Hi folks. Tony here, from Nov '14. Just wanted to vent about how much it pisses me off when anyone who is in the process of quitting talks about how much they love/miss their brand of choice. I wasted almost a decade killing myself with the nasty shit. Countless dollars that could be used to pay off my education. Instead, all i got was receded gums and a lifetime of worry about every sore or irregularity that shows up in my mouth. I don't understand how a quitter could possibly say they love or miss it. I think my hatred of chewing and of myself for doing it so long is a huge part of my motivation. Sorry for the rant, just think its BS when I see quitters talk positively of the very thing that has ruined portions of all of our lives, and i think im just having some dip rage. FUCK NIC.
That is the right mindset, young jedi!
What you are describing is called romanticizing dip... and if not addressed will always prove deadly to a quit.
This addiction is like any other addiction in most ways. For some the sense of "loss" when they quit can be quite acute. My recommendation to those folks is to remember why they are here, look at cancer pictures, read the stories at the top of words of wisdom, and read all of the unethical things that big tobacco has done to keep generations of people hooked, selling death for profit. In short, those people need to get pissed at what was done to them... and how it could have impacted them and their family.
Nice post, Tony. 30 had a guy in his group who romanticized the Kodiak for a long time. He even wrote a story about how he killed the bear. Posted a line to the story each day with roll call.
He really just put the bear in a coma. Around 300 days in or so, he woke the bear up and let it eat him.
Those butt munchin merchants of death couldn't pay me enough to ingest their poison anymore.
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Hi folks. Tony here, from Nov '14. Just wanted to vent about how much it pisses me off when anyone who is in the process of quitting talks about how much they love/miss their brand of choice. I wasted almost a decade killing myself with the nasty shit. Countless dollars that could be used to pay off my education. Instead, all i got was receded gums and a lifetime of worry about every sore or irregularity that shows up in my mouth. I don't understand how a quitter could possibly say they love or miss it. I think my hatred of chewing and of myself for doing it so long is a huge part of my motivation. Sorry for the rant, just think its BS when I see quitters talk positively of the very thing that has ruined portions of all of our lives, and i think im just having some dip rage. FUCK NIC.
That is the right mindset, young jedi!
What you are describing is called romanticizing dip... and if not addressed will always prove deadly to a quit.
This addiction is like any other addiction in most ways. For some the sense of "loss" when they quit can be quite acute. My recommendation to those folks is to remember why they are here, look at cancer pictures, read the stories at the top of words of wisdom, and read all of the unethical things that big tobacco has done to keep generations of people hooked, selling death for profit. In short, those people need to get pissed at what was done to them... and how it could have impacted them and their family.
Nice post, Tony. 30 had a guy in his group who romanticized the Kodiak for a long time. He even wrote a story about how he killed the bear. Posted a line to the story each day with roll call.
He really just put the bear in a coma. Around 300 days in or so, he woke the bear up and let it eat him.
Those butt munchin merchants of death couldn't pay me enough to ingest their poison anymore.
I hearby swear...
I WILL use the term "butt munchin merchants of death" at least once in conversation today...
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Curt Schilling Reveals He Was Diagnosed With Mouth Cancer in February, Believes Chewing Tobacco Was the Cause
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/r ... mouth.html (http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2014/08/curt_schilling_reveals_he_was_diagnosed_with_mouth.html)
"I do believe without a doubt, unquestionably that chewing is what gave me cancer..." ~ Curt Schilling
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Curt Schilling Reveals He Was Diagnosed With Mouth Cancer in February, Believes Chewing Tobacco Was the Cause
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/r ... mouth.html (http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2014/08/curt_schilling_reveals_he_was_diagnosed_with_mouth.html)
"I do believe without a doubt, unquestionably that chewing is what gave me cancer..." ~ Curt Schilling
Hope that will be another nail in the coffin for smokeless tobacco use in the major leagues!!!!!
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Curt Schilling Reveals He Was Diagnosed With Mouth Cancer in February, Believes Chewing Tobacco Was the Cause
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/r ... mouth.html (http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2014/08/curt_schilling_reveals_he_was_diagnosed_with_mouth.html)
"I do believe without a doubt, unquestionably that chewing is what gave me cancer..." ~ Curt Schilling
At the end of the article he states that he had a heart attack in 2011. You can't convince me tobacco was not a factor in that, it affects your heart and circulation. When I stand up I get super light-headed often. Been better since I quit but was pretty bad before. Scary stuff. Stay quit boys and girls.
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Curt Schilling Reveals He Was Diagnosed With Mouth Cancer in February, Believes Chewing Tobacco Was the Cause
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/r ... mouth.html (http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2014/08/curt_schilling_reveals_he_was_diagnosed_with_mouth.html)
"I do believe without a doubt, unquestionably that chewing is what gave me cancer..." ~ Curt Schilling
At the end of the article he states that he had a heart attack in 2011. You can't convince me tobacco was not a factor in that, it affects your heart and circulation. When I stand up I get super light-headed often. Been better since I quit but was pretty bad before. Scary stuff. Stay quit boys and girls.
I thought Curt quit dipping back in 2003, I remember reading an article about it. So my question is can you still get oral cancer even after you've quit for 10 years or is there any evidence he never quit in the first place? Just curious.
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Curt Schilling Reveals He Was Diagnosed With Mouth Cancer in February, Believes Chewing Tobacco Was the Cause
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/r ... mouth.html (http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2014/08/curt_schilling_reveals_he_was_diagnosed_with_mouth.html)
"I do believe without a doubt, unquestionably that chewing is what gave me cancer..." ~ Curt Schilling
At the end of the article he states that he had a heart attack in 2011. You can't convince me tobacco was not a factor in that, it affects your heart and circulation. When I stand up I get super light-headed often. Been better since I quit but was pretty bad before. Scary stuff. Stay quit boys and girls.
I thought Curt quit dipping back in 2003, I remember reading an article about it. So my question is can you still get oral cancer even after you've quit for 10 years or is there any evidence he never quit in the first place? Just curious.
This story from 1998 says he started in 1985. (http://www.nytimes.com/1998/04/26/sports/baseball-the-doctors-said-strike-1-and-schilling-acted.html?src=pm&pagewanted=1)
This story quotes him as saying he dipped for about 30 years. (http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/08/curt-schilling-blames-chewing-tobacco-for-his-oral-cancer)
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Curt Schilling Reveals He Was Diagnosed With Mouth Cancer in February, Believes Chewing Tobacco Was the Cause
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/r ... mouth.html (http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2014/08/curt_schilling_reveals_he_was_diagnosed_with_mouth.html)
"I do believe without a doubt, unquestionably that chewing is what gave me cancer..." ~ Curt Schilling
At the end of the article he states that he had a heart attack in 2011. You can't convince me tobacco was not a factor in that, it affects your heart and circulation. When I stand up I get super light-headed often. Been better since I quit but was pretty bad before. Scary stuff. Stay quit boys and girls.
I thought Curt quit dipping back in 2003, I remember reading an article about it. So my question is can you still get oral cancer even after you've quit for 10 years or is there any evidence he never quit in the first place? Just curious.
This story from 1998 says he started in 1985. (http://www.nytimes.com/1998/04/26/sports/baseball-the-doctors-said-strike-1-and-schilling-acted.html?src=pm&pagewanted=1)
This story quotes him as saying he dipped for about 30 years. (http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/08/curt-schilling-blames-chewing-tobacco-for-his-oral-cancer)
And this story says he quit for 1 1/2 years, then started again while golfing. (http://www.travelerstoday.com/articles/8652/20140206/curt-schilling-diagnosed-cancer.htm)
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Curt Schilling Reveals He Was Diagnosed With Mouth Cancer in February, Believes Chewing Tobacco Was the Cause
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/r ... mouth.html (http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2014/08/curt_schilling_reveals_he_was_diagnosed_with_mouth.html)
"I do believe without a doubt, unquestionably that chewing is what gave me cancer..." ~ Curt Schilling
At the end of the article he states that he had a heart attack in 2011. You can't convince me tobacco was not a factor in that, it affects your heart and circulation. When I stand up I get super light-headed often. Been better since I quit but was pretty bad before. Scary stuff. Stay quit boys and girls.
I thought Curt quit dipping back in 2003, I remember reading an article about it. So my question is can you still get oral cancer even after you've quit for 10 years or is there any evidence he never quit in the first place? Just curious.
This story from 1998 says he started in 1985. (http://www.nytimes.com/1998/04/26/sports/baseball-the-doctors-said-strike-1-and-schilling-acted.html?src=pm&pagewanted=1)
This story quotes him as saying he dipped for about 30 years. (http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/08/curt-schilling-blames-chewing-tobacco-for-his-oral-cancer)
And this story says he quit for 1 1/2 years, then started again while golfing. (http://www.travelerstoday.com/articles/8652/20140206/curt-schilling-diagnosed-cancer.htm)
Thanks Remshot - I'm sure lots of people were just like Heisenberg, um just asking for a friend......
I love how all these ballplayers also say they only dip during the season - like anyone believes that.
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Physical exam of Jim Kelly shows no evidence of cancer
http://www.si.com/nfl/2014/08/20/jim-ke ... -radiation (http://www.si.com/nfl/2014/08/20/jim-kelly-cancer-exam-chemo-radiation)
YES!!! Talk about some GOOD news for today!!!
"'The treatments so far have completely eliminated Mr. Kelly's pain, and his level of function has essentially returned to normal. Further, on physical examination, there is no evidence of the cancer.'"
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Hi folks. Tony here, from Nov '14. Just wanted to vent about how much it pisses me off when anyone who is in the process of quitting talks about how much they love/miss their brand of choice. I wasted almost a decade killing myself with the nasty shit. Countless dollars that could be used to pay off my education. Instead, all i got was receded gums and a lifetime of worry about every sore or irregularity that shows up in my mouth. I don't understand how a quitter could possibly say they love or miss it. I think my hatred of chewing and of myself for doing it so long is a huge part of my motivation. Sorry for the rant, just think its BS when I see quitters talk positively of the very thing that has ruined portions of all of our lives, and i think im just having some dip rage. FUCK NIC.
That is the right mindset, young jedi!
What you are describing is called romanticizing dip... and if not addressed will always prove deadly to a quit.
This addiction is like any other addiction in most ways. For some the sense of "loss" when they quit can be quite acute. My recommendation to those folks is to remember why they are here, look at cancer pictures, read the stories at the top of words of wisdom, and read all of the unethical things that big tobacco has done to keep generations of people hooked, selling death for profit. In short, those people need to get pissed at what was done to them... and how it could have impacted them and their family.
Nice post, Tony. 30 had a guy in his group who romanticized the Kodiak for a long time. He even wrote a story about how he killed the bear. Posted a line to the story each day with roll call.
He really just put the bear in a coma. Around 300 days in or so, he woke the bear up and let it eat him.
Those butt munchin merchants of death couldn't pay me enough to ingest their poison anymore.
I hearby swear...
I WILL use the term "butt munchin merchants of death" at least once in conversation today...
I really want to hear how that went yesterday...
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Curt Schilling Reveals He Was Diagnosed With Mouth Cancer in February, Believes Chewing Tobacco Was the Cause
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/r ... mouth.html (http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2014/08/curt_schilling_reveals_he_was_diagnosed_with_mouth.html)
"I do believe without a doubt, unquestionably that chewing is what gave me cancer..." ~ Curt Schilling
At the end of the article he states that he had a heart attack in 2011. You can't convince me tobacco was not a factor in that, it affects your heart and circulation. When I stand up I get super light-headed often. Been better since I quit but was pretty bad before. Scary stuff. Stay quit boys and girls.
I thought Curt quit dipping back in 2003, I remember reading an article about it. So my question is can you still get oral cancer even after you've quit for 10 years or is there any evidence he never quit in the first place? Just curious.
This story from 1998 says he started in 1985. (http://www.nytimes.com/1998/04/26/sports/baseball-the-doctors-said-strike-1-and-schilling-acted.html?src=pm&pagewanted=1)
This story quotes him as saying he dipped for about 30 years. (http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/08/curt-schilling-blames-chewing-tobacco-for-his-oral-cancer)
And this story says he quit for 1 1/2 years, then started again while golfing. (http://www.travelerstoday.com/articles/8652/20140206/curt-schilling-diagnosed-cancer.htm)
Once the damage is done it is done. But over time the risks reduce.
http://www.killthecan.org/additional-re ... timetable/ (http://www.killthecan.org/additional-resources/stop-chewing-recovery-timetable/)
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Curt Schilling Reveals He Was Diagnosed With Mouth Cancer in February, Believes Chewing Tobacco Was the Cause
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/r ... mouth.html (http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2014/08/curt_schilling_reveals_he_was_diagnosed_with_mouth.html)
"I do believe without a doubt, unquestionably that chewing is what gave me cancer..." ~ Curt Schilling
At the end of the article he states that he had a heart attack in 2011. You can't convince me tobacco was not a factor in that, it affects your heart and circulation. When I stand up I get super light-headed often. Been better since I quit but was pretty bad before. Scary stuff. Stay quit boys and girls.
I thought Curt quit dipping back in 2003, I remember reading an article about it. So my question is can you still get oral cancer even after you've quit for 10 years or is there any evidence he never quit in the first place? Just curious.
This story from 1998 says he started in 1985. (http://www.nytimes.com/1998/04/26/sports/baseball-the-doctors-said-strike-1-and-schilling-acted.html?src=pm&pagewanted=1)
This story quotes him as saying he dipped for about 30 years. (http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/08/curt-schilling-blames-chewing-tobacco-for-his-oral-cancer)
And this story says he quit for 1 1/2 years, then started again while golfing. (http://www.travelerstoday.com/articles/8652/20140206/curt-schilling-diagnosed-cancer.htm)
Once the damage is done it is done. But over time the risks reduce.
http://www.killthecan.org/additional-re ... timetable/ (http://www.killthecan.org/additional-resources/stop-chewing-recovery-timetable/)
Thanks for the info...I'll pass this on to my friend.
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Would you rather have the ability to fly or be invisible?
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Would you rather have the ability to fly or be invisible?
Hmm... both are pretty tremendous.
I think I'd say fly. Not that being invisible wouldn't be all kinds of awesome too.
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Would you rather have the ability to fly or be invisible?
Hmm... both are pretty tremendous.
I think I'd say fly. Not that being invisible wouldn't be all kinds of awesome too.
Definitely fly. This reminds me of a joke:
" Superman was feeling bored after a long streak of crime fighting and wanted to go out and party, so he called Batman to ask if he wanted to go to a club and pick up some girls.
Batman said Robin was ill and he had to look after him.
A little disappointed, Superman called Spiderman to see if he fancied a few beers. Spiderman told him he had a date with Cat Woman.
As a last resort, Superman flew over to Wonder Woman's apartment to see if she was free. As he landed on her balcony, he saw Wonder Woman naked on the bed with her legs wide open.
Superman thought to himself: "I'm faster than a speeding bullet, I could be in there, have sex, and be out again before she knew what was happening."
So Superman did his super thing in a split second and flew off happily.
Meanwhile on the bed, Wonder Woman said: "Did you hear something?"
"No!" said the Invisible Man, "But it tore my butt up!"
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Would you rather have the ability to fly or be invisible?
Hmm... both are pretty tremendous.
I think I'd say fly. Not that being invisible wouldn't be all kinds of awesome too.
Definitely fly. This reminds me of a joke:
" Superman was feeling bored after a long streak of crime fighting and wanted to go out and party, so he called Batman to ask if he wanted to go to a club and pick up some girls.
Batman said Robin was ill and he had to look after him.
A little disappointed, Superman called Spiderman to see if he fancied a few beers. Spiderman told him he had a date with Cat Woman.
As a last resort, Superman flew over to Wonder Woman's apartment to see if she was free. As he landed on her balcony, he saw Wonder Woman naked on the bed with her legs wide open.
Superman thought to himself: "I'm faster than a speeding bullet, I could be in there, have sex, and be out again before she knew what was happening."
So Superman did his super thing in a split second and flew off happily.
Meanwhile on the bed, Wonder Woman said: "Did you hear something?"
"No!" said the Invisible Man, "But it tore my butt up!"
That is awesome! Great joke
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Would you rather have the ability to fly or be invisible?
Hmm... both are pretty tremendous.
I think I'd say fly. Not that being invisible wouldn't be all kinds of awesome too.
Definitely fly. This reminds me of a joke:
" Superman was feeling bored after a long streak of crime fighting and wanted to go out and party, so he called Batman to ask if he wanted to go to a club and pick up some girls.
Batman said Robin was ill and he had to look after him.
A little disappointed, Superman called Spiderman to see if he fancied a few beers. Spiderman told him he had a date with Cat Woman.
As a last resort, Superman flew over to Wonder Woman's apartment to see if she was free. As he landed on her balcony, he saw Wonder Woman naked on the bed with her legs wide open.
Superman thought to himself: "I'm faster than a speeding bullet, I could be in there, have sex, and be out again before she knew what was happening."
So Superman did his super thing in a split second and flew off happily.
Meanwhile on the bed, Wonder Woman said: "Did you hear something?"
"No!" said the Invisible Man, "But it tore my butt up!"
That is awesome! Great joke
There is a special place in Hell for you, G...and I hope it includes Butt secks. Lots of Butt secks...
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Hi folks. Tony here, from Nov '14. Just wanted to vent about how much it pisses me off when anyone who is in the process of quitting talks about how much they love/miss their brand of choice. I wasted almost a decade killing myself with the nasty shit. Countless dollars that could be used to pay off my education. Instead, all i got was receded gums and a lifetime of worry about every sore or irregularity that shows up in my mouth. I don't understand how a quitter could possibly say they love or miss it. I think my hatred of chewing and of myself for doing it so long is a huge part of my motivation. Sorry for the rant, just think its BS when I see quitters talk positively of the very thing that has ruined portions of all of our lives, and i think im just having some dip rage. FUCK NIC.
That is the right mindset, young jedi!
What you are describing is called romanticizing dip... and if not addressed will always prove deadly to a quit.
This addiction is like any other addiction in most ways. For some the sense of "loss" when they quit can be quite acute. My recommendation to those folks is to remember why they are here, look at cancer pictures, read the stories at the top of words of wisdom, and read all of the unethical things that big tobacco has done to keep generations of people hooked, selling death for profit. In short, those people need to get pissed at what was done to them... and how it could have impacted them and their family.
Nice post, Tony. 30 had a guy in his group who romanticized the Kodiak for a long time. He even wrote a story about how he killed the bear. Posted a line to the story each day with roll call.
He really just put the bear in a coma. Around 300 days in or so, he woke the bear up and let it eat him.
Those butt munchin merchants of death couldn't pay me enough to ingest their poison anymore.
I hearby swear...
I WILL use the term "butt munchin merchants of death" at least once in conversation today...
I really want to hear how that went yesterday...
Think of the movie Clerks. CANCER MERCHANT, CANCER MERCHANT!! http://youtu.be/3gHqYddtmNU?t=1m33s (http://youtu.be/3gHqYddtmNU?t=1m33s)
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Just wondering how long the lack of sleep is going to last. I am getting sleep but seem wake up after a few hours..goto bed at 10 pm wake up at 2 am, fall asleep wake up at 3 am, fall asleep wake up at 345 am fall back asleep and the alarm goes off at 430 am..
I don't want to use a sleeping pill or any other drug, seems kind of pointless to give up one drug by using another..any ideas??
Thanks
CV
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Just wondering how long the lack of sleep is going to last. I am getting sleep but seem wake up after a few hours..goto bed at 10 pm wake up at 2 am, fall asleep wake up at 3 am, fall asleep wake up at 345 am fall back asleep and the alarm goes off at 430 am..
I don't want to use a sleeping pill or any other drug, seems kind of pointless to give up one drug by using another..any ideas??
Thanks
CV
had to say - normally clears up within the first month s - I got a double dose around the 40-60 day range
melatonin worked for me - natural enzyme the body produces and you don't wake up groggy
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Just wondering how long the lack of sleep is going to last. I am getting sleep but seem wake up after a few hours..goto bed at 10 pm wake up at 2 am, fall asleep wake up at 3 am, fall asleep wake up at 345 am fall back asleep and the alarm goes off at 430 am..
I don't want to use a sleeping pill or any other drug, seems kind of pointless to give up one drug by using another..any ideas??
Thanks
CV
had to say - normally clears up within the first month s - I got a double dose around the 40-60 day range
melatonin worked for me - natural enzyme the body produces and you don't wake up groggy
Ugh...
I don't miss those days. I think I was sleeping with 2-3 sheets on day 4 because of the night sweats.
Have you tried limiting your caffeine/cutting it off completely?
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Just wondering how long the lack of sleep is going to last. I am getting sleep but seem wake up after a few hours..goto bed at 10 pm wake up at 2 am, fall asleep wake up at 3 am, fall asleep wake up at 345 am fall back asleep and the alarm goes off at 430 am..
I don't want to use a sleeping pill or any other drug, seems kind of pointless to give up one drug by using another..any ideas??
Thanks
CV
had to say - normally clears up within the first month s - I got a double dose around the 40-60 day range
melatonin worked for me - natural enzyme the body produces and you don't wake up groggy
Ugh...
I don't miss those days. I think I was sleeping with 2-3 sheets on day 4 because of the night sweats.
Have you tried limiting your caffeine/cutting it off completely?
I have cut back the caffeine but not removed it..just don't want to take a med to sleep
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Good read..
http://www.csnne.com/boston-red-sox/smo ... ll-problem (http://www.csnne.com/boston-red-sox/smokeless-tobacco-more-just-baseball-problem)
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Good read..
http://www.csnne.com/boston-red-sox/smo ... ll-problem (http://www.csnne.com/boston-red-sox/smokeless-tobacco-more-just-baseball-problem)
Agreed. Good read.
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College football pick em happening here:
topic/10479945/1/?x=35#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/10479945/1/?x=35#new)
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Hey Guys deciding to quit dipping. My girlfriend wants me to quit and I really care about her so I need to. Any advice? I had my last dip about ten minutes ago and I'm ready to quit. It's gonna be a rough ride because all my friends dip. But feel guilt every time I put one in. I'm happy I found this site and hope it can help me overcome my addiction
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Hey Guys deciding to quit dipping. My girlfriend wants me to quit and I really care about her so I need to. Any advice? I had my last dip about ten minutes ago and I'm ready to quit. It's gonna be a rough ride because all my friends dip. But feel guilt every time I put one in. I'm happy I found this site and hope it can help me overcome my addiction
Throw away all the dip cups, bottles and cans you have in the house and vehicle. Next, load up all your empty, half full and full cans and throw them away. Take the trash out. Make it so no matter how bad the craves get you will not fold. You cant fold. Everytime you think about how bad you want a dip think about losing your girlfriend. Imagine your girlfriend LOSING YOU. Fuck that shit. My wife didn't like it either, I did it for myself. Everyone does it for their own reason. I commend you for quitting but don't come here and say youre quitting just to start back up again tomorrow when shit hits the fan. IT wont be easy. AT ALL. But we are here to help you bud. Anything you need you can ask. PM me if you want. Im a little over two weeks DIP FREE. It was tough but I got through it because of the guys on here that helped me. Good luck and DO WORK! FUCK DAT BITCH
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Hey Guys deciding to quit dipping. My girlfriend wants me to quit and I really care about her so I need to. Any advice? I had my last dip about ten minutes ago and I'm ready to quit. It's gonna be a rough ride because all my friends dip. But feel guilt every time I put one in. I'm happy I found this site and hope it can help me overcome my addiction
Throw away all the dip cups, bottles and cans you have in the house and vehicle. Next, load up all your empty, half full and full cans and throw them away. Take the trash out. Make it so no matter how bad the craves get you will not fold. You cant fold. Everytime you think about how bad you want a dip think about losing your girlfriend. Imagine your girlfriend LOSING YOU. Fuck that shit. My wife didn't like it either, I did it for myself. Everyone does it for their own reason. I commend you for quitting but don't come here and say youre quitting just to start back up again tomorrow when shit hits the fan. IT wont be easy. AT ALL. But we are here to help you bud. Anything you need you can ask. PM me if you want. Im a little over two weeks DIP FREE. It was tough but I got through it because of the guys on here that helped me. Good luck and DO WORK! FUCK DAT BITCH
In addition, understand that the substance you are addicted to is nicotine, no matter what the delivery vehicle. You are not quit unless you are nicotine free.
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Hey Guys deciding to quit dipping. My girlfriend wants me to quit and I really care about her so I need to. Any advice? I had my last dip about ten minutes ago and I'm ready to quit. It's gonna be a rough ride because all my friends dip. But feel guilt every time I put one in. I'm happy I found this site and hope it can help me overcome my addiction
Throw away all the dip cups, bottles and cans you have in the house and vehicle. Next, load up all your empty, half full and full cans and throw them away. Take the trash out. Make it so no matter how bad the craves get you will not fold. You cant fold. Everytime you think about how bad you want a dip think about losing your girlfriend. Imagine your girlfriend LOSING YOU. Fuck that shit. My wife didn't like it either, I did it for myself. Everyone does it for their own reason. I commend you for quitting but don't come here and say youre quitting just to start back up again tomorrow when shit hits the fan. IT wont be easy. AT ALL. But we are here to help you bud. Anything you need you can ask. PM me if you want. Im a little over two weeks DIP FREE. It was tough but I got through it because of the guys on here that helped me. Good luck and DO WORK! FUCK DAT BITCH
In addition, understand that the substance you are addicted to is nicotine, no matter what the delivery vehicle. You are not quit unless you are nicotine free.
Big thing is quitting for youself. My girlfried and I recently got into a huge fight about this very same thing. I tried quitting for her in the past but it never worked. you must quit for youself!!!!
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Hey guys, I've been observing this site for months but just joined today. I started dipping about 5 years ago. I've attempted to quit several times, but every time I cave , i start dipping more Than I did before. I am a career firefighter at a fairly large department, and every single one of my partners I have had dip the same brand and flavor I do, making it hard to resist packing a fatty! It has become habit for me to put a dip in after a strenuous call, especially after the gruesome, fucked up calls we get from time to time. All of my buddies dip as well. My wife has begged me to quit, we've made compromises, and nothing's worked. It usually ends up with me resenting her. I have been dipping at work behind her back. In the mornings I tell myself " don't go to the gas station, you don't need it anyways" and next thing I know, I'm back in my truck with a fresh can. I definitely feel like it is taking over, and I'm ready to do this for ME. I am man enough to admit that I have an issue, and that I need help. The second someone says the word "dip" my gums start to burn and that real sticky spit shit starts to build up in my mouth. I ordered some smokey mountain this morning and am open to any suggestions. Thanks guys 'bang head'
-NozzleHead
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Hey guys, I've been observing this site for months but just joined today. I started dipping about 5 years ago. I've attempted to quit several times, but every time I cave , i start dipping more Than I did before. I am a career firefighter at a fairly large department, and every single one of my partners I have had dip the same brand and flavor I do, making it hard to resist packing a fatty! It has become habit for me to put a dip in after a strenuous call, especially after the gruesome, fucked up calls we get from time to time. All of my buddies dip as well. My wife has begged me to quit, we've made compromises, and nothing's worked. It usually ends up with me resenting her. I have been dipping at work behind her back. In the mornings I tell myself " don't go to the gas station, you don't need it anyways" and next thing I know, I'm back in my truck with a fresh can. I definitely feel like it is taking over, and I'm ready to do this for ME. I am man enough to admit that I have an issue, and that I need help. The second someone says the word "dip" my gums start to burn and that real sticky spit shit starts to build up in my mouth. I ordered some smokey mountain this morning and am open to any suggestions. Thanks guys 'bang head'
-NozzleHead
Welcome Nozzle and congrats on coming to a great decision.
I won't lie to you... this is going to suck balls. Big time. But it's SO worth it in the end.
Head over to Decembe 2014 and introduce yourself: topic/10503924/1/?x=90 (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/10503924/1/?x=90)
Buckle that chin strap and get r done!
Chewie
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Day 13. I know its normal to experience soreness of the tongue. Is it normal to feel pain in my jaw like under my ears? Also experiencing pain on the sides of my neck.
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Day 13. I know its normal to experience soreness of the tongue. Is it normal to feel pain in my jaw like under my ears? Also experiencing pain on the sides of my neck.
Jaw pain is normal, my was hurting as well. I was chewing a ton of gum and that didn't help.
I made a follow-up appt with my dentist and everything checked out okay.
Wait it out for a bit but if it still bugs you make an appt and get it checked out, it will help you sleep.
Charles
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Day 13. I know its normal to experience soreness of the tongue. Is it normal to feel pain in my jaw like under my ears? Also experiencing pain on the sides of my neck.
Jaw pain is normal, my was hurting as well. I was chewing a ton of gum and that didn't help.
I made a follow-up appt with my dentist and everything checked out okay.
Wait it out for a bit but if it still bugs you make an appt and get it checked out, it will help you sleep.
Charles
Your mouth, jaw, tongue, etc will go through several healing stages. If anything lasts longer than 2 weeks, get it checked out or if it really concerns you. After 182 days I still get that occasional "what the hell is that"? and it turns out ok. We just freak out about it more now that we have rid ourselves of the nic bitch. Good job on asking about this.
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Hey guys, I've been observing this site for months but just joined today. I started dipping about 5 years ago. I've attempted to quit several times, but every time I cave , i start dipping more Than I did before. I am a career firefighter at a fairly large department, and every single one of my partners I have had dip the same brand and flavor I do, making it hard to resist packing a fatty! It has become habit for me to put a dip in after a strenuous call, especially after the gruesome, fucked up calls we get from time to time. All of my buddies dip as well. My wife has begged me to quit, we've made compromises, and nothing's worked. It usually ends up with me resenting her. I have been dipping at work behind her back. In the mornings I tell myself " don't go to the gas station, you don't need it anyways" and next thing I know, I'm back in my truck with a fresh can. I definitely feel like it is taking over, and I'm ready to do this for ME. I am man enough to admit that I have an issue, and that I need help. The second someone says the word "dip" my gums start to burn and that real sticky spit shit starts to build up in my mouth. I ordered some smokey mountain this morning and am open to any suggestions. Thanks guys 'bang head'
-NozzleHead
Welcome Nozzle and congrats on coming to a great decision.
I won't lie to you... this is going to suck balls. Big time. But it's SO worth it in the end.
Head over to Decembe 2014 and introduce yourself: topic/10503924/1/?x=90 (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/10503924/1/?x=90)
Buckle that chin strap and get r done!
Chewie
MonsterEMT is in June 2014 group. You may want to touch bases with him to see how he handles the challenges.
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hey everyone. today is day number 2 of not chewing and yes after 33 years of dipping it is very hard to give it up. No i am not doing it cold turkey, i am using the patch so the cravings are not bad but the not having something in my lip is really what is hard to forget about. a buddy of mine gave me a can of the BACC Off and yes it does taste like dirt but it is something. 'arse' So here is to killing the can for good.
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hey everyone. today is day number 2 of not chewing and yes after 33 years of dipping it is very hard to give it up. No i am not doing it cold turkey, i am using the patch so the cravings are not bad but the not having something in my lip is really what is hard to forget about. a buddy of mine gave me a can of the BACC Off and yes it does taste like dirt but it is something. 'arse' So here is to killing the can for good.
Sorry to tell you this but if you are using a patch, you are NOT quit. We are 100% Cold Turkey here. If weening off nic is your choice then you will need to find another support site. If you want to quit, rip off the patch and free yourself from nicotine. I did it 183 days ago after dipping for 23 years. You can do it too.
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I am hoping y'all can provide some input with regards to snuff alternatives. I have read all of the reviews on this site and have searched dozens of stores in my area to try some of them. I cannot find anyone that carries it. I plan to order it online but don't want to order 10 different kinds to find one that tastes like Copenhagen. Which brand and flavor tastes and feels similar to cope long cut or even snuff?
I am on day one and I feel pretty good but the gum and sunflower seeds are already getting old. Is there anyone in the Houston area that knows of a store that carries a variety?
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I am hoping y'all can provide some input with regards to snuff alternatives. I have read all of the reviews on this site and have searched dozens of stores in my area to try some of them. I cannot find anyone that carries it. I plan to order it online but don't want to order 10 different kinds to find one that tastes like Copenhagen. Which brand and flavor tastes and feels similar to cope long cut or even snuff?
I am on day one and I feel pretty good but the gum and sunflower seeds are already getting old. Is there anyone in the Houston area that knows of a store that carries a variety?
I hear from others that they sell it at Walmart. Did you try there yet?
P.S. are you going to post roll in December? You are not quit in our eyes until you make your promise each day.
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I am hoping y'all can provide some input with regards to snuff alternatives. I have read all of the reviews on this site and have searched dozens of stores in my area to try some of them. I cannot find anyone that carries it. I plan to order it online but don't want to order 10 different kinds to find one that tastes like Copenhagen. Which brand and flavor tastes and feels similar to cope long cut or even snuff?
I am on day one and I feel pretty good but the gum and sunflower seeds are already getting old. Is there anyone in the Houston area that knows of a store that carries a variety?
I hear from others that they sell it at Walmart. Did you try there yet?
P.S. are you going to post roll in December? You are not quit in our eyes until you make your promise each day.
Not yet, I have tried several gas stations and places like CVS and Walgreens. I got a text from a friend who quit several years ago, he says there is a Tobacco Barn near my house that sells Smokey Mountain. I have tried his and it was too sweet for my taste. If that's all they sell I'll try it again. I will try anything at this point but I'm not going back.
Yes, I will post roll. I will login every morning and do it first thing. I have read up on how to do it. The only question I have is which area of the forum to post it in. You asked if I was going to post in December. Shouldn't I post everyday or is there an area for December members?
Sorry for the questions, I am still new to this.
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I am hoping y'all can provide some input with regards to snuff alternatives. I have read all of the reviews on this site and have searched dozens of stores in my area to try some of them. I cannot find anyone that carries it. I plan to order it online but don't want to order 10 different kinds to find one that tastes like Copenhagen. Which brand and flavor tastes and feels similar to cope long cut or even snuff?
I am on day one and I feel pretty good but the gum and sunflower seeds are already getting old. Is there anyone in the Houston area that knows of a store that carries a variety?
I hear from others that they sell it at Walmart. Did you try there yet?
P.S. are you going to post roll in December? You are not quit in our eyes until you make your promise each day.
Not yet, I have tried several gas stations and places like CVS and Walgreens. I got a text from a friend who quit several years ago, he says there is a Tobacco Barn near my house that sells Smokey Mountain. I have tried his and it was too sweet for my taste. If that's all they sell I'll try it again. I will try anything at this point but I'm not going back.
Yes, I will post roll. I will login every morning and do it first thing. I have read up on how to do it. The only question I have is which area of the forum to post it in. You asked if I was going to post in December. Shouldn't I post everyday or is there an area for December members?
Sorry for the questions, I am still new to this.
In community there is a section called "Quit Groups" Open that and in there toward the Bottom you will see a header for all the Months. Open December 14.
The instructions for posting roll are in the "Welcome Center"
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I am hoping y'all can provide some input with regards to snuff alternatives. I have read all of the reviews on this site and have searched dozens of stores in my area to try some of them. I cannot find anyone that carries it. I plan to order it online but don't want to order 10 different kinds to find one that tastes like Copenhagen. Which brand and flavor tastes and feels similar to cope long cut or even snuff?
I am on day one and I feel pretty good but the gum and sunflower seeds are already getting old. Is there anyone in the Houston area that knows of a store that carries a variety?
I hear from others that they sell it at Walmart. Did you try there yet?
P.S. are you going to post roll in December? You are not quit in our eyes until you make your promise each day.
Not yet, I have tried several gas stations and places like CVS and Walgreens. I got a text from a friend who quit several years ago, he says there is a Tobacco Barn near my house that sells Smokey Mountain. I have tried his and it was too sweet for my taste. If that's all they sell I'll try it again. I will try anything at this point but I'm not going back.
Yes, I will post roll. I will login every morning and do it first thing. I have read up on how to do it. The only question I have is which area of the forum to post it in. You asked if I was going to post in December. Shouldn't I post everyday or is there an area for December members?
Sorry for the questions, I am still new to this.
In community there is a section called "Quit Groups" Open that and in there toward the Bottom you will see a header for all the Months. Open December 14.
The instructions for posting roll are in the "Welcome Center"
Done. I am getting ready to leave work. I think this will be the first time I have ever driven home from work without snuff in my mouth. Man it's so weird the things we think we love. I have always looked forward to getting in the truck and taking a dip. I have never even tried to quit. Maybe day 2 will be better.
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I am hoping y'all can provide some input with regards to snuff alternatives. I have read all of the reviews on this site and have searched dozens of stores in my area to try some of them. I cannot find anyone that carries it. I plan to order it online but don't want to order 10 different kinds to find one that tastes like Copenhagen. Which brand and flavor tastes and feels similar to cope long cut or even snuff?
I am on day one and I feel pretty good but the gum and sunflower seeds are already getting old. Is there anyone in the Houston area that knows of a store that carries a variety?
I hear from others that they sell it at Walmart. Did you try there yet?
P.S. are you going to post roll in December? You are not quit in our eyes until you make your promise each day.
Not yet, I have tried several gas stations and places like CVS and Walgreens. I got a text from a friend who quit several years ago, he says there is a Tobacco Barn near my house that sells Smokey Mountain. I have tried his and it was too sweet for my taste. If that's all they sell I'll try it again. I will try anything at this point but I'm not going back.
Yes, I will post roll. I will login every morning and do it first thing. I have read up on how to do it. The only question I have is which area of the forum to post it in. You asked if I was going to post in December. Shouldn't I post everyday or is there an area for December members?
Sorry for the questions, I am still new to this.
In community there is a section called "Quit Groups" Open that and in there toward the Bottom you will see a header for all the Months. Open December 14.
The instructions for posting roll are in the "Welcome Center"
Done. I am getting ready to leave work. I think this will be the first time I have ever driven home from work without snuff in my mouth. Man it's so weird the things we think we love. I have always looked forward to getting in the truck and taking a dip. I have never even tried to quit. Maybe day 2 will be better.
You're not trying, you are doing....You can mail order some stuff too, if you want the fake stuff. Hooch may even offer a coupon or something for you...
Here is a link (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1008194/1/?x=90) to our smokeless alternative thread, if you are interested.
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I am going to buy a new chainsaw. Stihl or Husqvarna? new models $500 ish.
let me know your recommendation.
Charles
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Hello everyone. I was hoping someone may have an answer for me. I am 7 days quit but the spot where I normally dip is still sore like it was a lot of the time I was dipping. There isn't an ulcer there its just kinda sore when I press with my tongue. Is it normal to still be sore. I guess I'm just scared I'm quitting one day too late.
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I am going to buy a new chainsaw. Stihl or Husqvarna? new models $500 ish.
let me know your recommendation.
Charles
I don't have any experience with a Husqvarna.
I've NEVER had a bad experience with my Stihl products.
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Hello everyone. I was hoping someone may have an answer for me. I am 7 days quit but the spot where I normally dip is still sore like it was a lot of the time I was dipping. There isn't an ulcer there its just kinda sore when I press with my tongue. Is it normal to still be sore. I guess I'm just scared I'm quitting one day too late.
Finding stuff like this right after you quit is totally normal. Happend to me too.
In all likelihood, you're just now finding stuff that was always there... you're just now in tune to it now that you're quit.
That said, there's nothing wrong with going to the dentist to get it checked out. It will give you great peace of mind and will give you a great start to your quit.
chewie
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I am going to buy a new chainsaw. Stihl or Husqvarna? new models $500 ish.
let me know your recommendation.
Charles
I don't have any experience with a Husqvarna.
I've NEVER had a bad experience with my Stihl products.
I would NEVER buy another husqvarna saw again. NEVER. $500 paperweight.
You might be able to get more feedback here: topic/1003172/49/#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1003172/49/#new)
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Hello everyone. I was hoping someone may have an answer for me. I am 7 days quit but the spot where I normally dip is still sore like it was a lot of the time I was dipping. There isn't an ulcer there its just kinda sore when I press with my tongue. Is it normal to still be sore. I guess I'm just scared I'm quitting one day too late.
After quitting you will get much more in tune with your mouth. Before, the nic would tell you nothing to worry about and silence your concerns. With the drug gone, every burn or bite mark will be felt. I suggest you go to the dentist and get the chompers checked. While there, confess your addiction and they will do a quick oral cancer screening and take a peek at your concern spot(s). Be warned, when they tell you everything is fine, don't get complacent. Years ago, after an all clear from the doctor and many days clean, it didn't take long to convince myself that since I was okay, I could go back to dipping. Dumb move number 1003 on my part.
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I am going to buy a new chainsaw. Stihl or Husqvarna? new models $500 ish.
let me know your recommendation.
Charles
I don't have any experience with a Husqvarna.
I've NEVER had a bad experience with my Stihl products.
I would NEVER buy another husqvarna saw again. NEVER. $500 paperweight.
You might be able to get more feedback here: topic/1003172/49/#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1003172/49/#new)
Thanks for the advice I posted it over in the consumer section and got some good responses.
I am leaning Stihl MS291.
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Did or does anyone have texture (bumpy) on their gums where they used to chew?
It is not really visible but when you rub the gums you can feel it.
Is this normal or should I get it checked out?
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Did or does anyone have texture (bumpy) on their gums where they used to chew?
It is not really visible but when you rub the gums you can feel it.
Is this normal or should I get it checked out?
I have the same thing I've been quit for 9 days Idk how long it takes to go away
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Did or does anyone have texture (bumpy) on their gums where they used to chew?
It is not really visible but when you rub the gums you can feel it.
Is this normal or should I get it checked out?
I have the same thing I've been quit for 9 days Idk how long it takes to go away
It is normal. It is your mouth healing from the abuse you subjected it to....That said, if you are concerned, get it checked out by a doc or dentist...
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Day 21 here! I've been using Jake's Mint Chew (Mint Wintergreen), I'm not the biggest fan of it as its tough to get out of your mouth when your done I have to be at a sink bc the sh*t sticks to my fingers and my gums and it doesn't taste the greatest, but then again I'm sure nothing will taste like dip thats an alternative. I use to dip Skoal Mint Xtra LC, does anyone have any other fake stuff that might be better. Anyone thats tried a few different ones that has some good input?
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Day 21 here! I've been using Jake's Mint Chew (Mint Wintergreen), I'm not the biggest fan of it as its tough to get out of your mouth when your done I have to be at a sink bc the sh*t sticks to my fingers and my gums and it doesn't taste the greatest, but then again I'm sure nothing will taste like dip thats an alternative. I use to dip Skoal Mint Xtra LC, does anyone have any other fake stuff that might be better. Anyone thats tried a few different ones that has some good input?
You can read about different options here. (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1008194/4/?x=90#new)
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Is there any herbal snuff that contains nicotine? Nervous about getting tobacco-free, but still has nicotine.
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Is there any herbal snuff that contains nicotine? Nervous about getting tobacco-free, but still has nicotine.
there are some that do have nicotine, most don't however.
Hooch does not have nicotine. That one I know for sure. Just make sure that whatever you buy is explicit in saying that has no nicotine, and you will be fine
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Is there any herbal snuff that contains nicotine? Nervous about getting tobacco-free, but still has nicotine.
there are some that do have nicotine, most don't however.
Hooch does not have nicotine. That one I know for sure. Just make sure that whatever you buy is explicit in saying that has no nicotine, and you will be fine
What about smoky mountain? Says tobacco-free but nothing about nicotine.
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Is there any herbal snuff that contains nicotine? Nervous about getting tobacco-free, but still has nicotine.
there are some that do have nicotine, most don't however.
Hooch does not have nicotine. That one I know for sure. Just make sure that whatever you buy is explicit in saying that has no nicotine, and you will be fine
What about smoky mountain? Says tobacco-free but nothing about nicotine.
I had to look pretty hard to find it:
http://www.smokeysnuff.com/ (http://www.smokeysnuff.com/)
if you scroll down to where it says "welcome to smokey mountain" it says there it does not contain tobacco or nicotine.
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Is there any herbal snuff that contains nicotine? Nervous about getting tobacco-free, but still has nicotine.
there are some that do have nicotine, most don't however.
Hooch does not have nicotine. That one I know for sure. Just make sure that whatever you buy is explicit in saying that has no nicotine, and you will be fine
What about smoky mountain? Says tobacco-free but nothing about nicotine.
I had to look pretty hard to find it:
http://www.smokeysnuff.com/ (http://www.smokeysnuff.com/)
if you scroll down to where it says "welcome to smokey mountain" it says there it does not contain tobacco or nicotine.
Thanks boss!
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Is there any herbal snuff that contains nicotine? Nervous about getting tobacco-free, but still has nicotine.
there are some that do have nicotine, most don't however.
Hooch does not have nicotine. That one I know for sure. Just make sure that whatever you buy is explicit in saying that has no nicotine, and you will be fine
What about smoky mountain? Says tobacco-free but nothing about nicotine.
I had to look pretty hard to find it:
http://www.smokeysnuff.com/ (http://www.smokeysnuff.com/)
if you scroll down to where it says "welcome to smokey mountain" it says there it does not contain tobacco or nicotine.
Thanks boss!
All of the products contained HERE have no tobacco AND no nicotine
http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/smo ... ernatives/ (http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/smokeless-alternatives/)
There ARE brands of non-tobacco chew that DO contain nicotine including Triumph Elicit, but they also offer non-nicotine versions.
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New Blog Post: Ode To Day 83 – The Funk Sets In
http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/09/ode- ... k-sets-in/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/09/ode-to-day-83-the-funk-sets-in/)
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Check this out Curt Schilling on his cancer and its cause! (http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/_/id/11493882/curt-schilling-rejoin-espn-week-battle-cancer)
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Check this out Curt Schilling on his cancer and its cause! (http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/_/id/11493882/curt-schilling-rejoin-espn-week-battle-cancer)
I pray for that dude. How many thousands of times did I glance at the warning label, only to instantly avert my eyes. I saw a Skoal ad in a magazine tonight. The warning label takes up 1/3 of the page, with the remainder of the ad showing two dudes muddin' their ATVs. Before I would have never looked the ad over. I didn't want to see it. Tonight I actually read it because I quit that shit. What's done is done but I sure as hell don't want any part of paying someone to kill me anymore.
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Check this out Curt Schilling on his cancer and its cause! (http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/_/id/11493882/curt-schilling-rejoin-espn-week-battle-cancer)
I pray for that dude. How many thousands of times did I glance at the warning label, only to instantly avert my eyes. I saw a Skoal ad in a magazine tonight. The warning label takes up 1/3 of the page, with the remainder of the ad showing two dudes muddin' their ATVs. Before I would have never looked the ad over. I didn't want to see it. Tonight I actually read it because I quit that shit. What's done is done but I sure as hell don't want any part of paying someone to kill me anymore.
Good to see Curt coming back. The piece that sticks out to me is this:
"This is my fault," he tells Ravech. "I chewed tobacco for thirtysomething years. I was warned and warned year after year, and I didn't pay attention."
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Check this out Curt Schilling on his cancer and its cause! (http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/_/id/11493882/curt-schilling-rejoin-espn-week-battle-cancer)
I pray for that dude. How many thousands of times did I glance at the warning label, only to instantly avert my eyes. I saw a Skoal ad in a magazine tonight. The warning label takes up 1/3 of the page, with the remainder of the ad showing two dudes muddin' their ATVs. Before I would have never looked the ad over. I didn't want to see it. Tonight I actually read it because I quit that shit. What's done is done but I sure as hell don't want any part of paying someone to kill me anymore.
Good to see Curt coming back. The piece that sticks out to me is this:
"This is my fault," he tells Ravech. "I chewed tobacco for thirtysomething years. I was warned and warned year after year, and I didn't pay attention."
Me too. I watched the complete interview several times yesterday, and his description of the pain that accompanied the treatment, and that he could understand why many people in the same condition choose suicide was chilling.
There but by the grace of God................................
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Check this out Curt Schilling on his cancer and its cause! (http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/_/id/11493882/curt-schilling-rejoin-espn-week-battle-cancer)
I pray for that dude. How many thousands of times did I glance at the warning label, only to instantly avert my eyes. I saw a Skoal ad in a magazine tonight. The warning label takes up 1/3 of the page, with the remainder of the ad showing two dudes muddin' their ATVs. Before I would have never looked the ad over. I didn't want to see it. Tonight I actually read it because I quit that shit. What's done is done but I sure as hell don't want any part of paying someone to kill me anymore.
Good to see Curt coming back. The piece that sticks out to me is this:
"This is my fault," he tells Ravech. "I chewed tobacco for thirtysomething years. I was warned and warned year after year, and I didn't pay attention."
Me too. I watched the complete interview several times yesterday, and his description of the pain that accompanied the treatment, and that he could understand why many people in the same condition choose suicide was chilling.
There but by the grace of God................................
I bet there are new guys going to show up from this, just like the news on Tony Gwynn.
If you're reading this now, with a fat one in you face, wondering if you should, if you COULD Quit...please...spit that shit out. Flush your entire stash and let's get to it.
If we can. You can. Learn your lesson from other's pain.
-Nolaq - Day 1,640
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I have selected tomorrow, 9/11/14 as my quit day mainly because it has sentimental meaning to me. I did have a quick question for the group. Has anyone tried any of the nicorette products to ease the cravings from stopping dip? I understand its labeled as a quit smoking aid but thought I would ask.
Thanks,
Justin
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I have selected tomorrow, 9/11/14 as my quit day mainly because it has sentimental meaning to me. I did have a quick question for the group. Has anyone tried any of the nicorette products to ease the cravings from stopping dip? I understand its labeled as a quit smoking aid but thought I would ask.
Thanks,
Justin
Hey Justin - the Nicorette products (as well as other brands) will indeed "work" to ease the cravings. However, that is because they are delivring nicotine to your body.
http://blog.killthecan.org/2009/11/whats-really-in-nrt/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2009/11/whats-really-in-nrt/)
I'd strongly advise against using these products as you aren't truly "quit" while you're using them. You're merely delaying the inevitable withdrawal.
Looking forward to seeing you tomorrow!
But why wait? Why not make 9/11 day #2?
Chewie
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I have selected tomorrow, 9/11/14 as my quit day mainly because it has sentimental meaning to me. I did have a quick question for the group. Has anyone tried any of the nicorette products to ease the cravings from stopping dip? I understand its labeled as a quit smoking aid but thought I would ask.
Thanks,
Justin
Hey Justin - the Nicorette products (as well as other brands) will indeed "work" to ease the cravings. However, that is because they are delivring nicotine to your body.
http://blog.killthecan.org/2009/11/whats-really-in-nrt/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2009/11/whats-really-in-nrt/)
I'd strongly advise against using these products as you aren't truly "quit" while you're using them. You're merely delaying the inevitable withdrawal.
Looking forward to seeing you tomorrow!
But why wait? Why not make 9/11 day #2?
Chewie
Gotta agree with the Chews bro. Tomorrow, while it holds sentiments for millions of people all over the world, is no better day than today when it comes to Quitting.
People who pick dates, more times than not, don't show up for the game. Quit now, don't worry about tomorrow until, well...tomorrow.
'Now' is a very powerful thing. Own it. Own the Now.
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Hi, my name is cody, iv been dipping for about 4 years, and have tried several times unsuccessfully to quit, but I found this website so Im going to do it again and actually succeed this time!
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Hi, my name is cody, iv been dipping for about 4 years, and have tried several times unsuccessfully to quit, but I found this website so Im going to do it again and actually succeed this time!
Welcome Cody, and congrats on 1 awesome decision... Stop by our Welcome Center and learn about roll call and how to do it: forum/55560/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/55560/)
This is going to suck for a few days. Remember these days and know that you never have to go through them again.
You got this. You have come to the right place.
Your quit group will be December 2014: topic/10503924/195/#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/10503924/195/#new)
Holler if you need anything
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Check this out Curt Schilling on his cancer and its cause! (http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/_/id/11493882/curt-schilling-rejoin-espn-week-battle-cancer)
I pray for that dude. How many thousands of times did I glance at the warning label, only to instantly avert my eyes. I saw a Skoal ad in a magazine tonight. The warning label takes up 1/3 of the page, with the remainder of the ad showing two dudes muddin' their ATVs. Before I would have never looked the ad over. I didn't want to see it. Tonight I actually read it because I quit that shit. What's done is done but I sure as hell don't want any part of paying someone to kill me anymore.
Good to see Curt coming back. The piece that sticks out to me is this:
"This is my fault," he tells Ravech. "I chewed tobacco for thirtysomething years. I was warned and warned year after year, and I didn't pay attention."
Me too. I watched the complete interview several times yesterday, and his description of the pain that accompanied the treatment, and that he could understand why many people in the same condition choose suicide was chilling.
There but by the grace of God................................
I bet there are new guys going to show up from this, just like the news on Tony Gwynn.
If you're reading this now, with a fat one in you face, wondering if you should, if you COULD Quit...please...spit that shit out. Flush your entire stash and let's get to it.
If we can. You can. Learn your lesson from other's pain.
-Nolaq - Day 1,640
I second that ^^^^!
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Open post to whomever is responsible for today's special banner/graphic:
Thank you. You've done a great job.
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Open post to whomever is responsible for today's special banner/graphic:
Thank you. You've done a great job.
I need some help, this post makes me realize that I truly do have something wrong in my settings. I mentioned before that the site didn't look very good to me anymore. I still don't have any graphics or banner when I log on. What I see is so plain. Always viewing site on iphone.
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Open post to whomever is responsible for today's special banner/graphic:
Thank you. You've done a great job.
I need some help, this post makes me realize that I truly do have something wrong in my settings. I mentioned before that the site didn't look very good to me anymore. I still don't have any graphics or banner when I log on. What I see is so plain. Always viewing site on iphone.
Hmm... what are you seeing? Can you take screenshot and post it?
Here's what the forums are "supposed" to look like currently:
http://awesomescreenshot.com/0f93h8pz59 (http://awesomescreenshot.com/0f93h8pz59)
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Open post to whomever is responsible for today's special banner/graphic:
Thank you. You've done a great job.
I need some help, this post makes me realize that I truly do have something wrong in my settings. I mentioned before that the site didn't look very good to me anymore. I still don't have any graphics or banner when I log on. What I see is so plain. Always viewing site on iphone.
Hmm... what are you seeing? Can you take screenshot and post it?
Here's what the forums are "supposed" to look like currently:
http://awesomescreenshot.com/0f93h8pz59 (http://awesomescreenshot.com/0f93h8pz59)
And here's what things look like on a mobile device: http://www.killthecan.org/?attachment_id=8292 (http://www.killthecan.org/?attachment_id=8292)
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Open post to whomever is responsible for today's special banner/graphic:
Thank you. You've done a great job.
I need some help, this post makes me realize that I truly do have something wrong in my settings. I mentioned before that the site didn't look very good to me anymore. I still don't have any graphics or banner when I log on. What I see is so plain. Always viewing site on iphone.
Hmm... what are you seeing? Can you take screenshot and post it?
Here's what the forums are "supposed" to look like currently:
http://awesomescreenshot.com/0f93h8pz59 (http://awesomescreenshot.com/0f93h8pz59)
And here's what things look like on a mobile device: http://www.killthecan.org/?attachment_id=8292 (http://www.killthecan.org/?attachment_id=8292)
Make sure your theme is set to killthecan.org at the bottom of forum index.
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Open post to whomever is responsible for today's special banner/graphic:
Thank you. You've done a great job.
I need some help, this post makes me realize that I truly do have something wrong in my settings. I mentioned before that the site didn't look very good to me anymore. I still don't have any graphics or banner when I log on. What I see is so plain. Always viewing site on iphone.
Hmm... what are you seeing? Can you take screenshot and post it?
Here's what the forums are "supposed" to look like currently:
http://awesomescreenshot.com/0f93h8pz59 (http://awesomescreenshot.com/0f93h8pz59)
And here's what things look like on a mobile device: http://www.killthecan.org/?attachment_id=8292 (http://www.killthecan.org/?attachment_id=8292)
Make sure your theme is set to killthecan.org at the bottom of forum index.
I'll bet that's the ticket.
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I just want to say "Happy QLF Friday". That is all
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Open post to whomever is responsible for today's special banner/graphic:
Thank you. You've done a great job.
I need some help, this post makes me realize that I truly do have something wrong in my settings. I mentioned before that the site didn't look very good to me anymore. I still don't have any graphics or banner when I log on. What I see is so plain. Always viewing site on iphone.
Hmm... what are you seeing? Can you take screenshot and post it?
Here's what the forums are "supposed" to look like currently:
http://awesomescreenshot.com/0f93h8pz59 (http://awesomescreenshot.com/0f93h8pz59)
And here's what things look like on a mobile device: http://www.killthecan.org/?attachment_id=8292 (http://www.killthecan.org/?attachment_id=8292)
Make sure your theme is set to killthecan.org at the bottom of forum index.
I'll bet that's the ticket.
I believe that 30's right, but when I change the theme to killthecan from zeta original I get the following error:
Not Found
The requested URL /topic/1010972/55/ was not found on this server.
I guess I'm not sharp enough to copy the screen (two damn old) but what I see is just simple blue and orange solid headings, very plain. I've been seeing this since the middle of July and sick of orange and blue.
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Open post to whomever is responsible for today's special banner/graphic:
Thank you. You've done a great job.
I need some help, this post makes me realize that I truly do have something wrong in my settings. I mentioned before that the site didn't look very good to me anymore. I still don't have any graphics or banner when I log on. What I see is so plain. Always viewing site on iphone.
Hmm... what are you seeing? Can you take screenshot and post it?
Here's what the forums are "supposed" to look like currently:
http://awesomescreenshot.com/0f93h8pz59 (http://awesomescreenshot.com/0f93h8pz59)
And here's what things look like on a mobile device: http://www.killthecan.org/?attachment_id=8292 (http://www.killthecan.org/?attachment_id=8292)
Make sure your theme is set to killthecan.org at the bottom of forum index.
I'll bet that's the ticket.
I believe that 30's right, but when I change the theme to killthecan from zeta original I get the following error:
Not Found
The requested URL /topic/1010972/55/ was not found on this server.
I guess I'm not sharp enough to copy the screen (two damn old) but what I see is just simple blue and orange solid headings, very plain. I've been seeing this since the middle of July and sick of orange and blue.
You have the Iphone, go to settings, select safari, clear history, then clear cookies and data, after that go all the way to the bottom and click advanced, then click website data, go all the way to the bottom and click remove all website data. You will need to log back in. But that should clear your error problems.
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Open post to whomever is responsible for today's special banner/graphic:
Thank you. You've done a great job.
I need some help, this post makes me realize that I truly do have something wrong in my settings. I mentioned before that the site didn't look very good to me anymore. I still don't have any graphics or banner when I log on. What I see is so plain. Always viewing site on iphone.
Hmm... what are you seeing? Can you take screenshot and post it?
Here's what the forums are "supposed" to look like currently:
http://awesomescreenshot.com/0f93h8pz59 (http://awesomescreenshot.com/0f93h8pz59)
And here's what things look like on a mobile device: http://www.killthecan.org/?attachment_id=8292 (http://www.killthecan.org/?attachment_id=8292)
Make sure your theme is set to killthecan.org at the bottom of forum index.
I'll bet that's the ticket.
I believe that 30's right, but when I change the theme to killthecan from zeta original I get the following error:
Not Found
The requested URL /topic/1010972/55/ was not found on this server.
I guess I'm not sharp enough to copy the screen (two damn old) but what I see is just simple blue and orange solid headings, very plain. I've been seeing this since the middle of July and sick of orange and blue.
You have the Iphone, go to settings, select safari, clear history, then clear cookies and data, after that go all the way to the bottom and click advanced, then click website data, go all the way to the bottom and click remove all website data. You will need to log back in. But that should clear your error problems.
Thanks Matt, that did it. I've been putting up with that since mind July. Looks sooooo much better!!!
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I'm going through some fucking hell over here man...... 10/11 year dip/chewer......roughly 4 days in clean..... It's like I don't know what the fuck to do with myself.... physical withdrawal is bad enough early on with all the burning/shooting pain everywhere....then afterwords continual psychological battle that can pretty much last indefinitely...... that oh just "one" dip/chaw etc I can handle it etc....fucking driving me crazy....
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I'm going through some fucking hell over here man...... 10/11 year dip/chewer......roughly 4 days in clean..... It's like I don't know what the fuck to do with myself.... physical withdrawal is bad enough early on with all the burning/shooting pain everywhere....then afterwords continual psychological battle that can pretty much last indefinitely...... that oh just "one" dip/chaw etc I can handle it etc....fucking driving me crazy....
Hang in there JR. I know you threw this up last night, I hope you make if back here today. Drink tons of water. Chew on anything you can get you hands on - straws, toothpicks, matchsticks, popsicles - get some non-nic gum, mints - What ever you can. Work out. Run. Swim. Bike. Get your body moving. Get on here and read, read, read, read, read. All of these things will help keep you distracted from the craves.
For the record, I know exactly that feeling you're having. I had it too. I couldn't even see straight early on. I was worthless for the first 250 days or so. That feeling is your body throwing a temper tantrum. It will pass.
Get in your Dec group, and start posting roll. Stick around. We can help.
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day 6 of my quit. Everything is going pretty well but I'm worried about what feels like something is stuck in my throat. Only on the left side of my throat right around my adams apple. Its been there a few weeks on and off. Has anyone had something similar? My anxiety I'm sure isn't helping so I made a doctors appt in 1.5 weeks.
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day 6 of my quit. Everything is going pretty well but I'm worried about what feels like something is stuck in my throat. Only on the left side of my throat right around my adams apple. Its been there a few weeks on and off. Has anyone had something similar? My anxiety I'm sure isn't helping so I made a doctors appt in 1.5 weeks.
Almost everyone here has had something similar. Anxiety, too. Hell, 4 1/2 years after Quitting, I was freaking out just a couple of months ago about a doctor's visit. All for nothing.
Your body is going to have to heal. That may take a while, and will manifest itself in many forms. Sore throat, sore jaw, insomnia, constipation, all kinds of things.
I've seen you posted roll today, awesome. Now pull up a chair and get to reading.
Start here, (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/55560/) in our Welcome Center.
Welcome. Best decision you ever make. Reach out if you need help.
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day 6 of my quit. Everything is going pretty well but I'm worried about what feels like something is stuck in my throat. Only on the left side of my throat right around my adams apple. Its been there a few weeks on and off. Has anyone had something similar? My anxiety I'm sure isn't helping so I made a doctors appt in 1.5 weeks.
Almost everyone here has had something similar. Anxiety, too. Hell, 4 1/2 years after Quitting, I was freaking out just a couple of months ago about a doctor's visit. All for nothing.
Your body is going to have to heal. That may take a while, and will manifest itself in many forms. Sore throat, sore jaw, insomnia, constipation, all kinds of things.
I've seen you posted roll today, awesome. Now pull up a chair and get to reading.
Start here, (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/55560/) in our Welcome Center.
Welcome. Best decision you ever make. Reach out if you need help.
Thanks for the info, you can read the symptoms of quitting a hundred times but it's still scary to go through them.
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I have selected tomorrow, 9/11/14 as my quit day mainly because it has sentimental meaning to me. I did have a quick question for the group. Has anyone tried any of the nicorette products to ease the cravings from stopping dip? I understand its labeled as a quit smoking aid but thought I would ask.
Thanks,
Justin
So, I actually had a negative experience with nicotine gum. I had quit dipping for about 2 months or so cold turkey. 7-11 (convenience store) had clearance on the gum like 95% off and I was like..."Hey! This helps people quit smoking, maybe it will satisfy my craving for dip." (which was really just an excuse to get some nicotine in me again) I ended up going back to dipping for another 4 months after the cheap gum ran out. So, yeah.... best way is to get off the nicotine.
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I have selected tomorrow, 9/11/14 as my quit day mainly because it has sentimental meaning to me. I did have a quick question for the group. Has anyone tried any of the nicorette products to ease the cravings from stopping dip? I understand its labeled as a quit smoking aid but thought I would ask.
Thanks,
Justin
So, I actually had a negative experience with nicotine gum. I had quit dipping for about 2 months or so cold turkey. 7-11 (convenience store) had clearance on the gum like 95% off and I was like..."Hey! This helps people quit smoking, maybe it will satisfy my craving for dip." (which was really just an excuse to get some nicotine in me again) I ended up going back to dipping for another 4 months after the cheap gum ran out. So, yeah.... best way is to get off the nicotine.
If there is a "quit aid" - be it a prescription drug or OTC patch, pill, gum, acupuncture, yoga, you name it - I tried it over my 26 years of active use.
Truth is, none of that shit actually works for the vast majority of people. Nic replacement products don't get you off the nic, they just prolong the symptoms of withdrawl. I get in arguments with my wife all the time - she is in "pain management" and has legalized drug addicts under her care. She is all about "bringing people down slowly so they don't withdraw".
the difference with nic is this is a couple day process at best for you to get this poison out of your system. Then you get to rewire yourself to do battle successfully with your addiction.
Nothing worthwhile is easy and quitting is probably the single most worthwhile thing you can do for yourself.
Jump in - plenty of support here.....and you will need support.
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I have selected tomorrow, 9/11/14 as my quit day mainly because it has sentimental meaning to me. I did have a quick question for the group. Has anyone tried any of the nicorette products to ease the cravings from stopping dip? I understand its labeled as a quit smoking aid but thought I would ask.
Thanks,
Justin
So, I actually had a negative experience with nicotine gum. I had quit dipping for about 2 months or so cold turkey. 7-11 (convenience store) had clearance on the gum like 95% off and I was like..."Hey! This helps people quit smoking, maybe it will satisfy my craving for dip." (which was really just an excuse to get some nicotine in me again) I ended up going back to dipping for another 4 months after the cheap gum ran out. So, yeah.... best way is to get off the nicotine.
If there is a "quit aid" - be it a prescription drug or OTC patch, pill, gum, acupuncture, yoga, you name it - I tried it over my 26 years of active use.
Truth is, none of that shit actually works for the vast majority of people. Nic replacement products don't get you off the nic, they just prolong the symptoms of withdrawl. I get in arguments with my wife all the time - she is in "pain management" and has legalized drug addicts under her care. She is all about "bringing people down slowly so they don't withdraw".
the difference with nic is this is a couple day process at best for you to get this poison out of your system. Then you get to rewire yourself to do battle successfully with your addiction.
Nothing worthwhile is easy and quitting is probably the single most worthwhile thing you can do for yourself.
Jump in - plenty of support here.....and you will need support.
Nicotine gum is a broken crutch.
During a period of time I used both nicotine gum and chew at the same time. I would use nicotine gum around my wife and then chew in my car.
I was limping to one nicotine fix to the other. Cold turkey is the way to go, buy some herbal chew, or seeds and bite a spoon it will be tough but you got it.
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Well i have been frequenting this site since June 22 2014 and i have decided i will join. My quit night was June 21 at the Luke Bryan concert. Was not planned at all. Ive chewed Copenhagen long cut roughly from 18 to 27 years old. Now i chewed other stuff to. Started out with pouches then eventually around 21 went full time to long cut and roughly can a day user to 2 cans+ during hunting season or a night of heavy drinking at the camp.. Its been rough. I have not touched chewing tobacco since that night at the concert. I was drinking and i just got real emotional when i went to through that dip in when we got to our seats..i dont know why i got emotional but i just did. I told my gf at that time im done and she kinda looked at me like ya ya you said you cut down before. Something just hit me at that moment.. i knew how bad it was and i just LOVED TO CHEW so bad but i knew if i wanted to stay around for my gf(soon to be wife) and her daughter which i treat as my own, i had to be a man and quit. I took both cans of "old goldy" and threw them under the seats we were sitting in and said "FUCK THIS SHIT, IM DONE!". Needless to say a few hours later i was going nuts, i needed my friend. But she told me stay strong that night. Next morning... well that was terrible as all you know. I did not know of these fakes chews or anything so i was just lost. I was mad at the world, i felt why does chew have to be so bad for you? Regardless i have not touched it since that night. Smokey Mountain classic and wintergreen have been my new friend for now i guess you can say. I go through a can a day about but not always, somedays (weekends) i might not even have it at all. Typically i have my triggers when i need it like hunting, work(im a mechanic), cutting grass, etc.. BUt i will never touch the real stuff again. Id only be cheating myself and my family. I always had a weird addiction to nicotine though, ive smoked probably 5 cigars since that night on vacation, fishing etc. I have no need for another after for days, weeks. When i used to chew i would only dip once or twice on weekends and typically after dinner time i wouldnt dip at all atleast 3-7 days a week. I often wondered if i should try the half strength nicotine herbal to atleast get the nice pick me up but im unsure. I know i had a control on nicotine however it had a control on me to. I know that if i chewed the fake stuff with nicotine id be ok because i refuse to ever touch the real deal. I loved the taste of copenhagen long cut, the flavor, smell, just holding the can. I didnt feel like that with any other chew. Would it be bad if i dabbled with the fake/nicotine chew? Im talking out my ass now but what would be the negatives? I figured if i ever ran out of it, id just chew the fake stuff till i got more, im so done with the real stuff that id suffer if i had to. I feel like typing forever on this topic tonight about my dip use and feelings about it but its almost bed time.. Thank you to all of you!
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Well i have been frequenting this site since June 22 2014 and i have decided i will join. My quit night was June 21 at the Luke Bryan concert. Was not planned at all. Ive chewed Copenhagen long cut roughly from 18 to 27 years old. Now i chewed other stuff to. Started out with pouches then eventually around 21 went full time to long cut and roughly can a day user to 2 cans+ during hunting season or a night of heavy drinking at the camp.. Its been rough. I have not touched chewing tobacco since that night at the concert. I was drinking and i just got real emotional when i went to through that dip in when we got to our seats..i dont know why i got emotional but i just did. I told my gf at that time im done and she kinda looked at me like ya ya you said you cut down before. Something just hit me at that moment.. i knew how bad it was and i just LOVED TO CHEW so bad but i knew if i wanted to stay around for my gf(soon to be wife) and her daughter which i treat as my own, i had to be a man and quit. I took both cans of "old goldy" and threw them under the seats we were sitting in and said "FUCK THIS SHIT, IM DONE!". Needless to say a few hours later i was going nuts, i needed my friend. But she told me stay strong that night. Next morning... well that was terrible as all you know. I did not know of these fakes chews or anything so i was just lost. I was mad at the world, i felt why does chew have to be so bad for you? Regardless i have not touched it since that night. Smokey Mountain classic and wintergreen have been my new friend for now i guess you can say. I go through a can a day about but not always, somedays (weekends) i might not even have it at all. Typically i have my triggers when i need it like hunting, work(im a mechanic), cutting grass, etc.. BUt i will never touch the real stuff again. Id only be cheating myself and my family. I always had a weird addiction to nicotine though, ive smoked probably 5 cigars since that night on vacation, fishing etc. I have no need for another after for days, weeks. When i used to chew i would only dip once or twice on weekends and typically after dinner time i wouldnt dip at all atleast 3-7 days a week. I often wondered if i should try the half strength nicotine herbal to atleast get the nice pick me up but im unsure. I know i had a control on nicotine however it had a control on me to. I know that if i chewed the fake stuff with nicotine id be ok because i refuse to ever touch the real deal. I loved the taste of copenhagen long cut, the flavor, smell, just holding the can. I didnt feel like that with any other chew. Would it be bad if i dabbled with the fake/nicotine chew? Im talking out my ass now but what would be the negatives? I figured if i ever ran out of it, id just chew the fake stuff till i got more, im so done with the real stuff that id suffer if i had to. I feel like typing forever on this topic tonight about my dip use and feelings about it but its almost bed time.. Thank you to all of you!
I'm pretty new here, but I can tell you for sure that adding any nicotine into your routine will have you back on the cope in no time. I've tried the gum and cessation, and e-cigs and everything else under the sun in the past, and they all end in the same place. You put ANY nicotine in your body, and you're feeding your addiction, and it will take over before you even know what hit you.
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Well i have been frequenting this site since June 22 2014 and i have decided i will join. My quit night was June 21 at the Luke Bryan concert. Was not planned at all. Ive chewed Copenhagen long cut roughly from 18 to 27 years old. Now i chewed other stuff to. Started out with pouches then eventually around 21 went full time to long cut and roughly can a day user to 2 cans+ during hunting season or a night of heavy drinking at the camp.. Its been rough. I have not touched chewing tobacco since that night at the concert. I was drinking and i just got real emotional when i went to through that dip in when we got to our seats..i dont know why i got emotional but i just did. I told my gf at that time im done and she kinda looked at me like ya ya you said you cut down before. Something just hit me at that moment.. i knew how bad it was and i just LOVED TO CHEW so bad but i knew if i wanted to stay around for my gf(soon to be wife) and her daughter which i treat as my own, i had to be a man and quit. I took both cans of "old goldy" and threw them under the seats we were sitting in and said "FUCK THIS SHIT, IM DONE!". Needless to say a few hours later i was going nuts, i needed my friend. But she told me stay strong that night. Next morning... well that was terrible as all you know. I did not know of these fakes chews or anything so i was just lost. I was mad at the world, i felt why does chew have to be so bad for you? Regardless i have not touched it since that night. Smokey Mountain classic and wintergreen have been my new friend for now i guess you can say. I go through a can a day about but not always, somedays (weekends) i might not even have it at all. Typically i have my triggers when i need it like hunting, work(im a mechanic), cutting grass, etc.. BUt i will never touch the real stuff again. Id only be cheating myself and my family. I always had a weird addiction to nicotine though, ive smoked probably 5 cigars since that night on vacation, fishing etc. I have no need for another after for days, weeks. When i used to chew i would only dip once or twice on weekends and typically after dinner time i wouldnt dip at all atleast 3-7 days a week. I often wondered if i should try the half strength nicotine herbal to atleast get the nice pick me up but im unsure. I know i had a control on nicotine however it had a control on me to. I know that if i chewed the fake stuff with nicotine id be ok because i refuse to ever touch the real deal. I loved the taste of copenhagen long cut, the flavor, smell, just holding the can. I didnt feel like that with any other chew. Would it be bad if i dabbled with the fake/nicotine chew? Im talking out my ass now but what would be the negatives? I figured if i ever ran out of it, id just chew the fake stuff till i got more, im so done with the real stuff that id suffer if i had to. I feel like typing forever on this topic tonight about my dip use and feelings about it but its almost bed time.. Thank you to all of you!
I'm pretty new here, but I can tell you for sure that adding any nicotine into your routine will have you back on the cope in no time. I've tried the gum and cessation, and e-cigs and everything else under the sun in the past, and they all end in the same place. You put ANY nicotine in your body, and you're feeding your addiction, and it will take over before you even know what hit you.
NICOTINE is what you're addicted to.
Adding it back to your system, in any form, will set you back. Period.
chewie
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day 6 of my quit. Everything is going pretty well but I'm worried about what feels like something is stuck in my throat. Only on the left side of my throat right around my adams apple. Its been there a few weeks on and off. Has anyone had something similar? My anxiety I'm sure isn't helping so I made a doctors appt in 1.5 weeks.
Almost everyone here has had something similar. Anxiety, too. Hell, 4 1/2 years after Quitting, I was freaking out just a couple of months ago about a doctor's visit. All for nothing.
Your body is going to have to heal. That may take a while, and will manifest itself in many forms. Sore throat, sore jaw, insomnia, constipation, all kinds of things.
I've seen you posted roll today, awesome. Now pull up a chair and get to reading.
Start here, (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/55560/) in our Welcome Center.
Welcome. Best decision you ever make. Reach out if you need help.
FML Noloq Really!?
God give me strength. All good. I"m Quit though which makes me happy
ODAAT!!!!!!!
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Day 1 of operation NoSkoal failed as I decided to smoke one of my brother's cigs to cure the craving. I've been chewing trident all day to try to ease the oral fixation. Ugh. :-/ Anyone else try to use cigs to curb their dipping? bad idea?
Sunflower seeds maybe?
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Day 1 of operation NoSkoal failed as I decided to smoke one of my brother's cigs to cure the craving. I've been chewing trident all day to try to ease the oral fixation. Ugh. :-/ Anyone else try to use cigs to curb their dipping? bad idea?
Sunflower seeds maybe?
Cigs = terrible idea.
Seed = great idea.
NICOTINE is your enemy. Smoking is merely changing the delivery method.
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Day 1 of operation NoSkoal failed as I decided to smoke one of my brother's cigs to cure the craving. I've been chewing trident all day to try to ease the oral fixation. Ugh. :-/ Anyone else try to use cigs to curb their dipping? bad idea?
Sunflower seeds maybe?
Cigs = terrible idea.
Seed = great idea.
NICOTINE is your enemy. Smoking is merely changing the delivery method.
you just have to make up your mind to do this. It's going to suck for a little while, but if you keep using nicotine it is going to suck for the rest of your life. And if you are unlucky enough to get cancer, it's going to suck more than you can imagine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH7mjpl3U1w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH7mjpl3U1w)
We quit one day at a time... can you make it through today without nicotine? Is your word any good? Visit our welcome center, flush your stash of anything that has nicotine in it and decide to live in freedom rather than slavery.
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Day 1 of operation NoSkoal failed as I decided to smoke one of my brother's cigs to cure the craving. I've been chewing trident all day to try to ease the oral fixation. Ugh. :-/ Anyone else try to use cigs to curb their dipping? bad idea?
Sunflower seeds maybe?
Cigs = terrible idea.
Seed = great idea.
NICOTINE is your enemy. Smoking is merely changing the delivery method.
you just have to make up your mind to do this. It's going to suck for a little while, but if you keep using nicotine it is going to suck for the rest of your life. And if you are unlucky enough to get cancer, it's going to suck more than you can imagine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH7mjpl3U1w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH7mjpl3U1w)
We quit one day at a time... can you make it through today without nicotine? Is your word any good? Visit our welcome center, flush your stash of anything that has nicotine in it and decide to live in freedom rather than slavery.
Was that a serious question?
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Sorry for interrupting the flow but I've got to say this. Today I had one of my coworkers flag me down from across the office just to ask me how I quit dipping. I guess he saw my status updates on Facebook and got curious. When I went over to his desk I saw two cans of snuff sitting there beckoning to me but I never missed a beat. I told him what I did and referred him to KTC. I don't know if he'll come around but I'll keep hammering away at him to get him to leave the dark side.
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Sorry for interrupting the flow but I've got to say this. Today I had one of my coworkers flag me down from across the office just to ask me how I quit dipping. I guess he saw my status updates on Facebook and got curious. When I went over to his desk I saw two cans of snuff sitting there beckoning to me but I never missed a beat. I told him what I did and referred him to KTC. I don't know if he'll come around but I'll keep hammering away at him to get him to leave the dark side.
this... is... AWESOME!
well done sir!
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yeah im having nightmares and waking up gasping for air thats normal right
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yeah im having nightmares and waking up gasping for air thats normal right
Welcome to the SUCK. It will suck for some time but I promise if you stay nicotine free it WILL get better.
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yeah im having nightmares and waking up gasping for air thats normal right
Welcome to the SUCK. It will suck for some time but I promise if you stay nicotine free it WILL get better.
Just remember no one died from the suck of quitting, but that can't be said about the alternative!
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yeah im having nightmares and waking up gasping for air thats normal right
Welcome to the SUCK. It will suck for some time but I promise if you stay nicotine free it WILL get better.
The suck sucks. Night sweats, insomnia, going to bed and getting up painfully early. During the day you are quickly angered and will say anything to anyone with no tact or compassion (at least that happened to me). It gets better and you return to normal just don't let your guard down and keep posting roll every day no matter what.
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Sorry for interrupting the flow but I've got to say this. Today I had one of my coworkers flag me down from across the office just to ask me how I quit dipping. I guess he saw my status updates on Facebook and got curious. When I went over to his desk I saw two cans of snuff sitting there beckoning to me but I never missed a beat. I told him what I did and referred him to KTC. I don't know if he'll come around but I'll keep hammering away at him to get him to leave the dark side.
this... is... AWESOME!
well done sir!
I sent him the link to "Randy and His Cancer". I read that in the early days of the suck and it pretty much steeled my resolve at that point and made the suck more bearable. I'm trying not to be too forward or forceful because I know he has to want to quit for himself not just to appease his friend and coworker. All I am doing is providing access to a helpful resource that he may use when he decides to take the first step towards recovery.
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Day 1 of operation NoSkoal failed as I decided to smoke one of my brother's cigs to cure the craving. I've been chewing trident all day to try to ease the oral fixation. Ugh. :-/ Anyone else try to use cigs to curb their dipping? bad idea?
Sunflower seeds maybe?
Cigs = terrible idea.
Seed = great idea.
NICOTINE is your enemy. Smoking is merely changing the delivery method.
you just have to make up your mind to do this. It's going to suck for a little while, but if you keep using nicotine it is going to suck for the rest of your life. And if you are unlucky enough to get cancer, it's going to suck more than you can imagine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH7mjpl3U1w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH7mjpl3U1w)
We quit one day at a time... can you make it through today without nicotine? Is your word any good? Visit our welcome center, flush your stash of anything that has nicotine in it and decide to live in freedom rather than slavery.
Was that a serious question?
People much smarter than me can probably find the classic John Candy line in Uncle Buck when he tells his sister-in-law that he quit smoking cigarettes - he moved onto cigars and is on the 5 year plan of Cigars then Pipes then Chewing tobacco, etc.
It's classic.
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Day 1 of operation NoSkoal failed as I decided to smoke one of my brother's cigs to cure the craving. I've been chewing trident all day to try to ease the oral fixation. Ugh. :-/ Anyone else try to use cigs to curb their dipping? bad idea?
Sunflower seeds maybe?
Cigs = terrible idea.
Seed = great idea.
NICOTINE is your enemy. Smoking is merely changing the delivery method.
you just have to make up your mind to do this. It's going to suck for a little while, but if you keep using nicotine it is going to suck for the rest of your life. And if you are unlucky enough to get cancer, it's going to suck more than you can imagine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH7mjpl3U1w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH7mjpl3U1w)
We quit one day at a time... can you make it through today without nicotine? Is your word any good? Visit our welcome center, flush your stash of anything that has nicotine in it and decide to live in freedom rather than slavery.
Was that a serious question?
People much smarter than me can probably find the classic John Candy line in Uncle Buck when he tells his sister-in-law that he quit smoking cigarettes - he moved onto cigars and is on the 5 year plan of Cigars then Pipes then Chewing tobacco, etc.
It's classic.
TOTALLY forgot about this!!!
http://youtu.be/QDnfNzmV0FM (http://youtu.be/QDnfNzmV0FM)
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Day 1 of operation NoSkoal failed as I decided to smoke one of my brother's cigs to cure the craving. I've been chewing trident all day to try to ease the oral fixation. Ugh. :-/ Anyone else try to use cigs to curb their dipping? bad idea?
Sunflower seeds maybe?
Cigs = terrible idea.
Seed = great idea.
NICOTINE is your enemy. Smoking is merely changing the delivery method.
you just have to make up your mind to do this. It's going to suck for a little while, but if you keep using nicotine it is going to suck for the rest of your life. And if you are unlucky enough to get cancer, it's going to suck more than you can imagine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH7mjpl3U1w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH7mjpl3U1w)
We quit one day at a time... can you make it through today without nicotine? Is your word any good? Visit our welcome center, flush your stash of anything that has nicotine in it and decide to live in freedom rather than slavery.
Was that a serious question?
People much smarter than me can probably find the classic John Candy line in Uncle Buck when he tells his sister-in-law that he quit smoking cigarettes - he moved onto cigars and is on the 5 year plan of Cigars then Pipes then Chewing tobacco, etc.
It's classic.
TOTALLY forgot about this!!!
http://youtu.be/QDnfNzmV0FM (http://youtu.be/QDnfNzmV0FM)
I just bought this movie and watched it with my kids about two weeks ago.
That and The Great Outdoors.
'Lips and assholes!'
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Day 1 of operation NoSkoal failed as I decided to smoke one of my brother's cigs to cure the craving. I've been chewing trident all day to try to ease the oral fixation. Ugh. :-/ Anyone else try to use cigs to curb their dipping? bad idea?
Sunflower seeds maybe?
Cigs = terrible idea.
Seed = great idea.
NICOTINE is your enemy. Smoking is merely changing the delivery method.
you just have to make up your mind to do this. It's going to suck for a little while, but if you keep using nicotine it is going to suck for the rest of your life. And if you are unlucky enough to get cancer, it's going to suck more than you can imagine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH7mjpl3U1w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH7mjpl3U1w)
We quit one day at a time... can you make it through today without nicotine? Is your word any good? Visit our welcome center, flush your stash of anything that has nicotine in it and decide to live in freedom rather than slavery.
Was that a serious question?
People much smarter than me can probably find the classic John Candy line in Uncle Buck when he tells his sister-in-law that he quit smoking cigarettes - he moved onto cigars and is on the 5 year plan of Cigars then Pipes then Chewing tobacco, etc.
It's classic.
TOTALLY forgot about this!!!
http://youtu.be/QDnfNzmV0FM (http://youtu.be/QDnfNzmV0FM)
I just bought this movie and watched it with my kids about two weeks ago.
That and The Great Outdoors.
'Lips and assholes!'
Thanks for finding the clip Chewie! Such a classic line and definitely takes on new meaning when you are quit.
Both movies are classics and both hold up pretty well except for the storyline with the older son and the "local" girl in Great Outdoors. That is brutal.
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Day 1 of operation NoSkoal failed as I decided to smoke one of my brother's cigs to cure the craving. I've been chewing trident all day to try to ease the oral fixation. Ugh. :-/ Anyone else try to use cigs to curb their dipping? bad idea?
Sunflower seeds maybe?
Cigs = terrible idea.
Seed = great idea.
NICOTINE is your enemy. Smoking is merely changing the delivery method.
you just have to make up your mind to do this. It's going to suck for a little while, but if you keep using nicotine it is going to suck for the rest of your life. And if you are unlucky enough to get cancer, it's going to suck more than you can imagine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH7mjpl3U1w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH7mjpl3U1w)
We quit one day at a time... can you make it through today without nicotine? Is your word any good? Visit our welcome center, flush your stash of anything that has nicotine in it and decide to live in freedom rather than slavery.
Was that a serious question?
People much smarter than me can probably find the classic John Candy line in Uncle Buck when he tells his sister-in-law that he quit smoking cigarettes - he moved onto cigars and is on the 5 year plan of Cigars then Pipes then Chewing tobacco, etc.
It's classic.
TOTALLY forgot about this!!!
http://youtu.be/QDnfNzmV0FM (http://youtu.be/QDnfNzmV0FM)
I just bought this movie and watched it with my kids about two weeks ago.
That and The Great Outdoors.
'Lips and assholes!'
Thanks for finding the clip Chewie! Such a classic line and definitely takes on new meaning when you are quit.
Both movies are classics and both hold up pretty well except for the storyline with the older son and the "local" girl in Great Outdoors. That is brutal.
Back in the day I thought that girl was SO hot...
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Day 1 of operation NoSkoal failed as I decided to smoke one of my brother's cigs to cure the craving. I've been chewing trident all day to try to ease the oral fixation. Ugh. :-/ Anyone else try to use cigs to curb their dipping? bad idea?
Sunflower seeds maybe?
Cigs = terrible idea.
Seed = great idea.
NICOTINE is your enemy. Smoking is merely changing the delivery method.
you just have to make up your mind to do this. It's going to suck for a little while, but if you keep using nicotine it is going to suck for the rest of your life. And if you are unlucky enough to get cancer, it's going to suck more than you can imagine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH7mjpl3U1w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH7mjpl3U1w)
We quit one day at a time... can you make it through today without nicotine? Is your word any good? Visit our welcome center, flush your stash of anything that has nicotine in it and decide to live in freedom rather than slavery.
Was that a serious question?
People much smarter than me can probably find the classic John Candy line in Uncle Buck when he tells his sister-in-law that he quit smoking cigarettes - he moved onto cigars and is on the 5 year plan of Cigars then Pipes then Chewing tobacco, etc.
It's classic.
TOTALLY forgot about this!!!
http://youtu.be/QDnfNzmV0FM (http://youtu.be/QDnfNzmV0FM)
I just bought this movie and watched it with my kids about two weeks ago.
That and The Great Outdoors.
'Lips and assholes!'
Thanks for finding the clip Chewie! Such a classic line and definitely takes on new meaning when you are quit.
Both movies are classics and both hold up pretty well except for the storyline with the older son and the "local" girl in Great Outdoors. That is brutal.
Back in the day I thought that girl was SO hot...
You got problems dude
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Day 1 of operation NoSkoal failed as I decided to smoke one of my brother's cigs to cure the craving. I've been chewing trident all day to try to ease the oral fixation. Ugh. :-/ Anyone else try to use cigs to curb their dipping? bad idea?
Sunflower seeds maybe?
Cigs = terrible idea.
Seed = great idea.
NICOTINE is your enemy. Smoking is merely changing the delivery method.
you just have to make up your mind to do this. It's going to suck for a little while, but if you keep using nicotine it is going to suck for the rest of your life. And if you are unlucky enough to get cancer, it's going to suck more than you can imagine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH7mjpl3U1w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH7mjpl3U1w)
We quit one day at a time... can you make it through today without nicotine? Is your word any good? Visit our welcome center, flush your stash of anything that has nicotine in it and decide to live in freedom rather than slavery.
Was that a serious question?
People much smarter than me can probably find the classic John Candy line in Uncle Buck when he tells his sister-in-law that he quit smoking cigarettes - he moved onto cigars and is on the 5 year plan of Cigars then Pipes then Chewing tobacco, etc.
It's classic.
TOTALLY forgot about this!!!
http://youtu.be/QDnfNzmV0FM (http://youtu.be/QDnfNzmV0FM)
I just bought this movie and watched it with my kids about two weeks ago.
That and The Great Outdoors.
'Lips and assholes!'
Thanks for finding the clip Chewie! Such a classic line and definitely takes on new meaning when you are quit.
Both movies are classics and both hold up pretty well except for the storyline with the older son and the "local" girl in Great Outdoors. That is brutal.
Back in the day I thought that girl was SO hot...
You got problems dude
I guess THIS is what I was remembering...
https://table9mutant.files.wordpress.co ... 03/bum.gif (https://table9mutant.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/bum.gif)
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Day 1 of operation NoSkoal failed as I decided to smoke one of my brother's cigs to cure the craving. I've been chewing trident all day to try to ease the oral fixation. Ugh. :-/ Anyone else try to use cigs to curb their dipping? bad idea?
Sunflower seeds maybe?
Cigs = terrible idea.
Seed = great idea.
NICOTINE is your enemy. Smoking is merely changing the delivery method.
you just have to make up your mind to do this. It's going to suck for a little while, but if you keep using nicotine it is going to suck for the rest of your life. And if you are unlucky enough to get cancer, it's going to suck more than you can imagine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH7mjpl3U1w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH7mjpl3U1w)
We quit one day at a time... can you make it through today without nicotine? Is your word any good? Visit our welcome center, flush your stash of anything that has nicotine in it and decide to live in freedom rather than slavery.
Was that a serious question?
People much smarter than me can probably find the classic John Candy line in Uncle Buck when he tells his sister-in-law that he quit smoking cigarettes - he moved onto cigars and is on the 5 year plan of Cigars then Pipes then Chewing tobacco, etc.
It's classic.
TOTALLY forgot about this!!!
http://youtu.be/QDnfNzmV0FM (http://youtu.be/QDnfNzmV0FM)
I just bought this movie and watched it with my kids about two weeks ago.
That and The Great Outdoors.
'Lips and assholes!'
Thanks for finding the clip Chewie! Such a classic line and definitely takes on new meaning when you are quit.
Both movies are classics and both hold up pretty well except for the storyline with the older son and the "local" girl in Great Outdoors. That is brutal.
Back in the day I thought that girl was SO hot...
You got problems dude
I guess THIS is what I was remembering...
https://table9mutant.files.wordpress.co ... 03/bum.gif (https://table9mutant.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/bum.gif)
No, you were right Chews. She was a hottie. (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0212635/?ref_=tt_cl_t11)
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Hi. Welcome.
I think you have it a little backwards. We are not here to have you tell us how to Quit. We are here to help YOU, because as far as Quitting goes, you don't know dick about it.
Yet.
Instead of all the accolades you're expecting from everyone here on what you wrote, how about you start reading about what Quitting is all about, because it's definitely NOT about swtching from liquor to Bud Lite.
Happy Birthday, btw. I was about 29 when I finally started to pull my head out of my ass and learn that I don't know everything.
Let me know if you need any help,
-Nolaq
Nolaq, I would like to say that you may be older, but you are in no way more educated on quitting tobacco than me. Way to try and downplay my age by saying "when I was 29". You took my post completely wrong.
I would now like to update and say that 2 months now without chewing, and over a month after that post I initially made, I stopped drinking beer. I drank beer to help me get over the urge at the time when it was really tough. It did help me, maybe it doesn't apply to you or a lot of people, but we are all different and perhaps someone that read this tried it and it helped them.
You are not god and you are not mister know it all. You sound like a bitter, miserable person that should start chewing again.
I don't need your advice or input. I am free and clear of all drugs now, and just today read your message, so in no way have you helped. You best not post negative comments like you did towards me.
You know why? Because you dont know DICK.
CHeers.
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Hi. Welcome.
I think you have it a little backwards. We are not here to have you tell us how to Quit. We are here to help YOU, because as far as Quitting goes, you don't know dick about it.
Yet.
Instead of all the accolades you're expecting from everyone here on what you wrote, how about you start reading about what Quitting is all about, because it's definitely NOT about swtching from liquor to Bud Lite.
Happy Birthday, btw. I was about 29 when I finally started to pull my head out of my ass and learn that I don't know everything.
Let me know if you need any help,
-Nolaq
Nolaq, I would like to say that you may be older, but you are in no way more educated on quitting tobacco than me. Way to try and downplay my age by saying "when I was 29". You took my post completely wrong.
I would now like to update and say that 2 months now without chewing, and over a month after that post I initially made, I stopped drinking beer. I drank beer to help me get over the urge at the time when it was really tough. It did help me, maybe it doesn't apply to you or a lot of people, but we are all different and perhaps someone that read this tried it and it helped them.
You are not god and you are not mister know it all. You sound like a bitter, miserable person that should start chewing again.
I don't need your advice or input. I am free and clear of all drugs now, and just today read your message, so in no way have you helped. You best not post negative comments like you did towards me.
You know why? Because you dont know DICK.
CHeers.
How about you actually do some reading on this site? If you do, you'll see that we don't need your asinine little "use a different drug to help you cope with quitting another drug" nonsense.
Feel free to join us and participate, but learn what we do here first.
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Hi. Welcome.
I think you have it a little backwards. We are not here to have you tell us how to Quit. We are here to help YOU, because as far as Quitting goes, you don't know dick about it.
Yet.
Instead of all the accolades you're expecting from everyone here on what you wrote, how about you start reading about what Quitting is all about, because it's definitely NOT about swtching from liquor to Bud Lite.
Happy Birthday, btw. I was about 29 when I finally started to pull my head out of my ass and learn that I don't know everything.
Let me know if you need any help,
-Nolaq
Nolaq, I would like to say that you may be older, but you are in no way more educated on quitting tobacco than me. Way to try and downplay my age by saying "when I was 29". You took my post completely wrong.
I would now like to update and say that 2 months now without chewing, and over a month after that post I initially made, I stopped drinking beer. I drank beer to help me get over the urge at the time when it was really tough. It did help me, maybe it doesn't apply to you or a lot of people, but we are all different and perhaps someone that read this tried it and it helped them.
You are not god and you are not mister know it all. You sound like a bitter, miserable person that should start chewing again.
I don't need your advice or input. I am free and clear of all drugs now, and just today read your message, so in no way have you helped. You best not post negative comments like you did towards me.
You know why? Because you dont know DICK.
CHeers.
How about you actually do some reading on this site? If you do, you'll see that we don't need your asinine little "use a different drug to help you cope with quitting another drug" nonsense.
Feel free to join us and participate, but learn what we do here first.
PS- don't ever even joke about someone chewing again.
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Hi. Welcome.
I think you have it a little backwards. We are not here to have you tell us how to Quit. We are here to help YOU, because as far as Quitting goes, you don't know dick about it.
Yet.
Instead of all the accolades you're expecting from everyone here on what you wrote, how about you start reading about what Quitting is all about, because it's definitely NOT about swtching from liquor to Bud Lite.
Happy Birthday, btw. I was about 29 when I finally started to pull my head out of my ass and learn that I don't know everything.
Let me know if you need any help,
-Nolaq
Nolaq, I would like to say that you may be older, but you are in no way more educated on quitting tobacco than me. Way to try and downplay my age by saying "when I was 29". You took my post completely wrong.
I would now like to update and say that 2 months now without chewing, and over a month after that post I initially made, I stopped drinking beer. I drank beer to help me get over the urge at the time when it was really tough. It did help me, maybe it doesn't apply to you or a lot of people, but we are all different and perhaps someone that read this tried it and it helped them.
You are not god and you are not mister know it all. You sound like a bitter, miserable person that should start chewing again.
I don't need your advice or input. I am free and clear of all drugs now, and just today read your message, so in no way have you helped. You best not post negative comments like you did towards me.
You know why? Because you dont know DICK.
CHeers.
How about you actually do some reading on this site? If you do, you'll see that we don't need your asinine little "use a different drug to help you cope with quitting another drug" nonsense.
Feel free to join us and participate, but learn what we do here first.
PS- don't ever even joke about someone chewing again.
let me try to lay this out for you..
This is a website dedicated to quitting tobacco/nicotine.
It has 21000 members
It is closing in on 3 million posts
The founding members of the site have north of 3000 days quit each.
The people who answered you here have over 4000 days quit between them.
We know the secret to not only stopping for a few weeks, but making a quit last a lifetime. That secret is found here. It is yours for the taking. But you have to want it.
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Hello all. Happy to have found this site. Unfortunately still chewing but not for long! Quit date is october 1st. Weining off the grizz mint until then. Been chewin for about 9 years..finally deciding its gime to quit. Just placed an order of jakes mint. Anyone tried it before? Wish me luck in a week! (Or sooner if my jakes mint comes in)
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Hello all. Happy to have found this site. Unfortunately still chewing but not for long! Quit date is october 1st. Weining off the grizz mint until then. Been chewin for about 9 years..finally deciding its gime to quit. Just placed an order of jakes mint. Anyone tried it before? Wish me luck in a week! (Or sooner if my jakes mint comes in)
Why wait until Oct 1st? What's wrong with today? Your Jake's will come soon enough. Flush your stash. Let's get to this.
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Hi. Welcome.
I think you have it a little backwards. We are not here to have you tell us how to Quit. We are here to help YOU, because as far as Quitting goes, you don't know dick about it.
Yet.
Instead of all the accolades you're expecting from everyone here on what you wrote, how about you start reading about what Quitting is all about, because it's definitely NOT about swtching from liquor to Bud Lite.
Happy Birthday, btw. I was about 29 when I finally started to pull my head out of my ass and learn that I don't know everything.
Let me know if you need any help,
-Nolaq
Nolaq, I would like to say that you may be older, but you are in no way more educated on quitting tobacco than me. Way to try and downplay my age by saying "when I was 29". You took my post completely wrong.
I would now like to update and say that 2 months now without chewing, and over a month after that post I initially made, I stopped drinking beer. I drank beer to help me get over the urge at the time when it was really tough. It did help me, maybe it doesn't apply to you or a lot of people, but we are all different and perhaps someone that read this tried it and it helped them.
You are not god and you are not mister know it all. You sound like a bitter, miserable person that should start chewing again.
I don't need your advice or input. I am free and clear of all drugs now, and just today read your message, so in no way have you helped. You best not post negative comments like you did towards me.
You know why? Because you dont know DICK.
CHeers.
How about you actually do some reading on this site? If you do, you'll see that we don't need your asinine little "use a different drug to help you cope with quitting another drug" nonsense.
Feel free to join us and participate, but learn what we do here first.
PS- don't ever even joke about someone chewing again.
let me try to lay this out for you..
This is a website dedicated to quitting tobacco/nicotine.
It has 21000 members
It is closing in on 3 million posts
The founding members of the site have north of 3000 days quit each.
The people who answered you here have over 4000 days quit between them.
We know the secret to not only stopping for a few weeks, but making a quit last a lifetime. That secret is found here. It is yours for the taking. But you have to want it.
Hi again. You can edit your original post all you want, but this was our original exchange:
Hi everyone,
I just joined here. I have chewed since I was a teenage, I am 29 yrs old as of today. I haven't chewed in a couple weeks and everything is going great so far. I joined this forum and website, because I wanted to share my experience with quitting and how bad my habit has been over the years.
Up until I quit, I was chewing every 30 minutes, or less. I would intentionally leave my office at work or find time to sit in my car or be somewhere private so I could have a dip. That right there sounds very bad, mentally blocked everything else out so I could enjoy the nicotine and dopamine rush. So since I was chewing so much, it had eaten away at productive time in life and at work, so I was less effective.
One of the major reasons I would say over the years I continued to chew, is because I am a very hyperactive person and getting a stim from dipping, would help me sit still in one place for an hour or so or more. It helped me mellow out, or atleast I thought so. But what it really did was make me not want to have discussion and/or communicate with others in my work life and personal life. Relationships for me fell apart. My habit took over my life.
I want to skip now until now, today, and how I have successfully not chewed now and not had any urges. This may come off and sound very bad, but I believe in one step at a time and sometimes if you have an addictive personality, like me, you shouldn't just stop things cold turkey.
So what I have done is drink beer. Yea, I know, sounds bad. But I am not a beer guy, usually drink liquor, but for some weird reason for me, drinking Bud Light and lighter beers curb my appetite for a dip. We are all different, and what works for me may not work for you, but maybe its worth a try?
I know this much, I am just waiting for all those toxins to leave my body because I won't ever dip again. I have treated people poorly and missed out on a lot of things over the past decade, simply to want to sit at home in front of the TV and enjoy a dip, when the truth is - I really didnt enjoy it or have a good time at all.
I hope this post is helpful to anyone that reads it.
Thanks.
Hi. Welcome.
I think you have it a little backwards. We are not here to have you tell us how to Quit. We are here to help YOU, because as far as Quitting goes, you don't know dick about it.
Yet.
Instead of all the accolades you're expecting from everyone here on what you wrote, how about you start reading about what Quitting is all about, because it's definitely NOT about swtching from liquor to Bud Lite.
Happy Birthday, btw. I was about 29 when I finally started to pull my head out of my ass and learn that I don't know everything.
Let me know if you need any help,
-Nolaq
Why, if I don't know DICK, did you edit your original post yesterday?
Nevermind. You've been here twice and twice, posted dribble. You're right. You have all the answers, and we can't help you with shit.
Have a good life.
-Nolaq
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Hi. Welcome.
I think you have it a little backwards. We are not here to have you tell us how to Quit. We are here to help YOU, because as far as Quitting goes, you don't know dick about it.
Yet.
Instead of all the accolades you're expecting from everyone here on what you wrote, how about you start reading about what Quitting is all about, because it's definitely NOT about swtching from liquor to Bud Lite.
Happy Birthday, btw. I was about 29 when I finally started to pull my head out of my ass and learn that I don't know everything.
Let me know if you need any help,
-Nolaq
Nolaq, I would like to say that you may be older, but you are in no way more educated on quitting tobacco than me. Way to try and downplay my age by saying "when I was 29". You took my post completely wrong.
I would now like to update and say that 2 months now without chewing, and over a month after that post I initially made, I stopped drinking beer. I drank beer to help me get over the urge at the time when it was really tough. It did help me, maybe it doesn't apply to you or a lot of people, but we are all different and perhaps someone that read this tried it and it helped them.
You are not god and you are not mister know it all. You sound like a bitter, miserable person that should start chewing again.
I don't need your advice or input. I am free and clear of all drugs now, and just today read your message, so in no way have you helped. You best not post negative comments like you did towards me.
You know why? Because you dont know DICK.
CHeers.
How about you actually do some reading on this site? If you do, you'll see that we don't need your asinine little "use a different drug to help you cope with quitting another drug" nonsense.
Feel free to join us and participate, but learn what we do here first.
PS- don't ever even joke about someone chewing again.
let me try to lay this out for you..
This is a website dedicated to quitting tobacco/nicotine.
It has 21000 members
It is closing in on 3 million posts
The founding members of the site have north of 3000 days quit each.
The people who answered you here have over 4000 days quit between them.
We know the secret to not only stopping for a few weeks, but making a quit last a lifetime. That secret is found here. It is yours for the taking. But you have to want it.
Hi again. You can edit your original post all you want, but this was our original exchange:
Hi everyone,
I just joined here. I have chewed since I was a teenage, I am 29 yrs old as of today. I haven't chewed in a couple weeks and everything is going great so far. I joined this forum and website, because I wanted to share my experience with quitting and how bad my habit has been over the years.
Up until I quit, I was chewing every 30 minutes, or less. I would intentionally leave my office at work or find time to sit in my car or be somewhere private so I could have a dip. That right there sounds very bad, mentally blocked everything else out so I could enjoy the nicotine and dopamine rush. So since I was chewing so much, it had eaten away at productive time in life and at work, so I was less effective.
One of the major reasons I would say over the years I continued to chew, is because I am a very hyperactive person and getting a stim from dipping, would help me sit still in one place for an hour or so or more. It helped me mellow out, or atleast I thought so. But what it really did was make me not want to have discussion and/or communicate with others in my work life and personal life. Relationships for me fell apart. My habit took over my life.
I want to skip now until now, today, and how I have successfully not chewed now and not had any urges. This may come off and sound very bad, but I believe in one step at a time and sometimes if you have an addictive personality, like me, you shouldn't just stop things cold turkey.
So what I have done is drink beer. Yea, I know, sounds bad. But I am not a beer guy, usually drink liquor, but for some weird reason for me, drinking Bud Light and lighter beers curb my appetite for a dip. We are all different, and what works for me may not work for you, but maybe its worth a try?
I know this much, I am just waiting for all those toxins to leave my body because I won't ever dip again. I have treated people poorly and missed out on a lot of things over the past decade, simply to want to sit at home in front of the TV and enjoy a dip, when the truth is - I really didnt enjoy it or have a good time at all.
I hope this post is helpful to anyone that reads it.
Thanks.
Hi. Welcome.
I think you have it a little backwards. We are not here to have you tell us how to Quit. We are here to help YOU, because as far as Quitting goes, you don't know dick about it.
Yet.
Instead of all the accolades you're expecting from everyone here on what you wrote, how about you start reading about what Quitting is all about, because it's definitely NOT about swtching from liquor to Bud Lite.
Happy Birthday, btw. I was about 29 when I finally started to pull my head out of my ass and learn that I don't know everything.
Let me know if you need any help,
-Nolaq
Why, if I don't know DICK, did you edit your original post yesterday?
Nevermind. You've been here twice and twice, posted dribble. You're right. You have all the answers, and we can't help you with shit.
Have a good life.
-Nolaq
Not what I've heard, NOLAQ has known lots of dicks and liked everyone of them.
Let the young guy grow up he will come around, he's a late bloomer.
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Hi. Welcome.
I think you have it a little backwards. We are not here to have you tell us how to Quit. We are here to help YOU, because as far as Quitting goes, you don't know dick about it.
Yet.
Instead of all the accolades you're expecting from everyone here on what you wrote, how about you start reading about what Quitting is all about, because it's definitely NOT about swtching from liquor to Bud Lite.
Happy Birthday, btw. I was about 29 when I finally started to pull my head out of my ass and learn that I don't know everything.
Let me know if you need any help,
-Nolaq
Nolaq, I would like to say that you may be older, but you are in no way more educated on quitting tobacco than me. Way to try and downplay my age by saying "when I was 29". You took my post completely wrong.
I would now like to update and say that 2 months now without chewing, and over a month after that post I initially made, I stopped drinking beer. I drank beer to help me get over the urge at the time when it was really tough. It did help me, maybe it doesn't apply to you or a lot of people, but we are all different and perhaps someone that read this tried it and it helped them.
You are not god and you are not mister know it all. You sound like a bitter, miserable person that should start chewing again.
I don't need your advice or input. I am free and clear of all drugs now, and just today read your message, so in no way have you helped. You best not post negative comments like you did towards me.
You know why? Because you dont know DICK.
CHeers.
How about you actually do some reading on this site? If you do, you'll see that we don't need your asinine little "use a different drug to help you cope with quitting another drug" nonsense.
Feel free to join us and participate, but learn what we do here first.
PS- don't ever even joke about someone chewing again.
let me try to lay this out for you..
This is a website dedicated to quitting tobacco/nicotine.
It has 21000 members
It is closing in on 3 million posts
The founding members of the site have north of 3000 days quit each.
The people who answered you here have over 4000 days quit between them.
We know the secret to not only stopping for a few weeks, but making a quit last a lifetime. That secret is found here. It is yours for the taking. But you have to want it.
Hi again. You can edit your original post all you want, but this was our original exchange:
Hi everyone,
I just joined here. I have chewed since I was a teenage, I am 29 yrs old as of today. I haven't chewed in a couple weeks and everything is going great so far. I joined this forum and website, because I wanted to share my experience with quitting and how bad my habit has been over the years.
Up until I quit, I was chewing every 30 minutes, or less. I would intentionally leave my office at work or find time to sit in my car or be somewhere private so I could have a dip. That right there sounds very bad, mentally blocked everything else out so I could enjoy the nicotine and dopamine rush. So since I was chewing so much, it had eaten away at productive time in life and at work, so I was less effective.
One of the major reasons I would say over the years I continued to chew, is because I am a very hyperactive person and getting a stim from dipping, would help me sit still in one place for an hour or so or more. It helped me mellow out, or atleast I thought so. But what it really did was make me not want to have discussion and/or communicate with others in my work life and personal life. Relationships for me fell apart. My habit took over my life.
I want to skip now until now, today, and how I have successfully not chewed now and not had any urges. This may come off and sound very bad, but I believe in one step at a time and sometimes if you have an addictive personality, like me, you shouldn't just stop things cold turkey.
So what I have done is drink beer. Yea, I know, sounds bad. But I am not a beer guy, usually drink liquor, but for some weird reason for me, drinking Bud Light and lighter beers curb my appetite for a dip. We are all different, and what works for me may not work for you, but maybe its worth a try?
I know this much, I am just waiting for all those toxins to leave my body because I won't ever dip again. I have treated people poorly and missed out on a lot of things over the past decade, simply to want to sit at home in front of the TV and enjoy a dip, when the truth is - I really didnt enjoy it or have a good time at all.
I hope this post is helpful to anyone that reads it.
Thanks.
Hi. Welcome.
I think you have it a little backwards. We are not here to have you tell us how to Quit. We are here to help YOU, because as far as Quitting goes, you don't know dick about it.
Yet.
Instead of all the accolades you're expecting from everyone here on what you wrote, how about you start reading about what Quitting is all about, because it's definitely NOT about swtching from liquor to Bud Lite.
Happy Birthday, btw. I was about 29 when I finally started to pull my head out of my ass and learn that I don't know everything.
Let me know if you need any help,
-Nolaq
Why, if I don't know DICK, did you edit your original post yesterday?
Nevermind. You've been here twice and twice, posted dribble. You're right. You have all the answers, and we can't help you with shit.
Have a good life.
-Nolaq
Not what I've heard, NOLAQ has known lots of dicks and liked everyone of them.
Let the young guy grow up he will come around, he's a late bloomer.
At least he realizes that he needs to quit at age 29. What I would give to have quit at 29.
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Here I am.....
Three days into probably my 20th "quitting" attempt.....this time, it has to be done...
Ever since 1999.....15 years......Jesus....The bear in the green can has had me by the balls with a vice like grip....unrelenting...
I'm in pain....I can't remember a place that I didn't have a dip in....from the minute I finished my coffee in the morning, until that last late nightcap...
Hell, I can't even remember when all this crap started.....we used to call it "busting a fatty" back in college. Unfortunately, I developed a reputation in the friends circles as being married to my sweet Kodiak. Not really the reputation you want for yourself, as most people realize what a terrible habit it is.....
I've been through about everything probably everyone else has....mouth sores, cavities, crowns, sore throats, etc....going through some jaw soreness right now.....I visit the doctor next week. Praying that it's TMJ or something associated with constant oral movement/spitting. hopefully my mouth is just getting used to being "normal" again....
Needless to say, I'm frightened, but have all the confidence that these are withdrawal symptoms and not lingering effects of long term dipping. My jaw and muscles are more used to having a dip in rather than eating and talking...
I could go on and on, but there's no use dwelling on the situation now...I've had my opportunities to quit and now I'll face the consequences....guilt sometimes overwhelms me, but my wife is very supportive, despite riding my ass for years about quitting....
I have two daughters, 17months and 5 years, and I'd like to be around for them....
Glad I found a place to vent....hopefully someone understands......
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Here I am.....
Three days into probably my 20th "quitting" attempt.....this time, it has to be done...
Ever since 1999.....15 years......Jesus....The bear in the green can has had me by the balls with a vice like grip....unrelenting...
I'm in pain....I can't remember a place that I didn't have a dip in....from the minute I finished my coffee in the morning, until that last late nightcap...
Hell, I can't even remember when all this crap started.....we used to call it "busting a fatty" back in college. Unfortunately, I developed a reputation in the friends circles as being married to my sweet Kodiak. Not really the reputation you want for yourself, as most people realize what a terrible habit it is.....
I've been through about everything probably everyone else has....mouth sores, cavities, crowns, sore throats, etc....going through some jaw soreness right now.....I visit the doctor next week. Praying that it's TMJ or something associated with constant oral movement/spitting. hopefully my mouth is just getting used to being "normal" again....
Needless to say, I'm frightened, but have all the confidence that these are withdrawal symptoms and not lingering effects of long term dipping. My jaw and muscles are more used to having a dip in rather than eating and talking...
I could go on and on, but there's no use dwelling on the situation now...I've had my opportunities to quit and now I'll face the consequences....guilt sometimes overwhelms me, but my wife is very supportive, despite riding my ass for years about quitting....
I have two daughters, 17months and 5 years, and I'd like to be around for them....
Glad I found a place to vent....hopefully someone understands......
Wow, that sounds like I could have written that,16 years ex-chewer with a great wife and two boy boys. The worrying, guilt and anxiety.
I am 39 days quit, I still worrying about biting my cheek, not perfectly smooth areas in my mouth and nights lying awake stressing.
Post roll, make an dentist and doctor appointment. Stay strong brother I quit with you.
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Hi. Welcome.
I think you have it a little backwards. We are not here to have you tell us how to Quit. We are here to help YOU, because as far as Quitting goes, you don't know dick about it.
Yet.
Instead of all the accolades you're expecting from everyone here on what you wrote, how about you start reading about what Quitting is all about, because it's definitely NOT about swtching from liquor to Bud Lite.
Happy Birthday, btw. I was about 29 when I finally started to pull my head out of my ass and learn that I don't know everything.
Let me know if you need any help,
-Nolaq
Nolaq, I would like to say that you may be older, but you are in no way more educated on quitting tobacco than me. Way to try and downplay my age by saying "when I was 29". You took my post completely wrong.
I would now like to update and say that 2 months now without chewing, and over a month after that post I initially made, I stopped drinking beer. I drank beer to help me get over the urge at the time when it was really tough. It did help me, maybe it doesn't apply to you or a lot of people, but we are all different and perhaps someone that read this tried it and it helped them.
You are not god and you are not mister know it all. You sound like a bitter, miserable person that should start chewing again.
I don't need your advice or input. I am free and clear of all drugs now, and just today read your message, so in no way have you helped. You best not post negative comments like you did towards me.
You know why? Because you dont know DICK.
CHeers.
How about you actually do some reading on this site? If you do, you'll see that we don't need your asinine little "use a different drug to help you cope with quitting another drug" nonsense.
Feel free to join us and participate, but learn what we do here first.
PS- don't ever even joke about someone chewing again.
let me try to lay this out for you..
This is a website dedicated to quitting tobacco/nicotine.
It has 21000 members
It is closing in on 3 million posts
The founding members of the site have north of 3000 days quit each.
The people who answered you here have over 4000 days quit between them.
We know the secret to not only stopping for a few weeks, but making a quit last a lifetime. That secret is found here. It is yours for the taking. But you have to want it.
Hi again. You can edit your original post all you want, but this was our original exchange:
Hi everyone,
I just joined here. I have chewed since I was a teenage, I am 29 yrs old as of today. I haven't chewed in a couple weeks and everything is going great so far. I joined this forum and website, because I wanted to share my experience with quitting and how bad my habit has been over the years.
Up until I quit, I was chewing every 30 minutes, or less. I would intentionally leave my office at work or find time to sit in my car or be somewhere private so I could have a dip. That right there sounds very bad, mentally blocked everything else out so I could enjoy the nicotine and dopamine rush. So since I was chewing so much, it had eaten away at productive time in life and at work, so I was less effective.
One of the major reasons I would say over the years I continued to chew, is because I am a very hyperactive person and getting a stim from dipping, would help me sit still in one place for an hour or so or more. It helped me mellow out, or atleast I thought so. But what it really did was make me not want to have discussion and/or communicate with others in my work life and personal life. Relationships for me fell apart. My habit took over my life.
I want to skip now until now, today, and how I have successfully not chewed now and not had any urges. This may come off and sound very bad, but I believe in one step at a time and sometimes if you have an addictive personality, like me, you shouldn't just stop things cold turkey.
So what I have done is drink beer. Yea, I know, sounds bad. But I am not a beer guy, usually drink liquor, but for some weird reason for me, drinking Bud Light and lighter beers curb my appetite for a dip. We are all different, and what works for me may not work for you, but maybe its worth a try?
I know this much, I am just waiting for all those toxins to leave my body because I won't ever dip again. I have treated people poorly and missed out on a lot of things over the past decade, simply to want to sit at home in front of the TV and enjoy a dip, when the truth is - I really didnt enjoy it or have a good time at all.
I hope this post is helpful to anyone that reads it.
Thanks.
Hi. Welcome.
I think you have it a little backwards. We are not here to have you tell us how to Quit. We are here to help YOU, because as far as Quitting goes, you don't know dick about it.
Yet.
Instead of all the accolades you're expecting from everyone here on what you wrote, how about you start reading about what Quitting is all about, because it's definitely NOT about swtching from liquor to Bud Lite.
Happy Birthday, btw. I was about 29 when I finally started to pull my head out of my ass and learn that I don't know everything.
Let me know if you need any help,
-Nolaq
Why, if I don't know DICK, did you edit your original post yesterday?
Nevermind. You've been here twice and twice, posted dribble. You're right. You have all the answers, and we can't help you with shit.
Have a good life.
-Nolaq
Not what I've heard, NOLAQ has known lots of dicks and liked everyone of them.
Let the young guy grow up he will come around, he's a late bloomer.
At least he realizes that he needs to quit at age 29. What I would give to have quit at 29.
wow, where do you start? ill give it a shot and see how well it goes over....
1) Never wish Nic on anyone ever, if you do you do not have the nads to post ANYWHERE on this site EVER. please go fuck yourself
2) you have all the answers and don't need us anyways...
3) all the guys that posted before me know their shit when it comes to quit, listen it WILL save your life.
4) you can pull your head out of your ass before your 29, I am 25 and quit for 95 days and filling in the HOF train stuff now, something I hope one day youll get the joy of doing.
5) everyone here is here to help you, even if at first you don't know it. you will.
6) most imoportant of all: there are many dicks in this world.... little dicks, big dicks, purple dicks, short dicks, fat dicks, gay dicks, long dicks, hairy dicks, dicks you tuck into your ankle socks, dicks you need a magnifying glass for, rainbow dicks, dick sandwiches, dick kabobs, dick pizza, ugly dicks, great dicks, dick face, and the most rare of all dicks is the smallest of all. The little dick that thinks they know quit. and NOLAQ knows them all
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and NOLAQ knows them all
Hey!
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and NOLAQ knows them all
Hey!
can you believe that guy? I saw the " you should probably start chewing line" and almost had a stroke. some people. I put a lot of thought into that number 6 roflmao
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and NOLAQ knows them all
Hey!
can you believe that guy? I saw the " you should probably start chewing line" and almost had a stroke. some people. I put a lot of thought into that number 6 roflmao
I did not come here to be made sport of...
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What's with [multi-login] up top by Welcome "username" [sign out], to the far left in the same bar as the inbox? looks like it lets you log-in to another ktc account? is this for Fraz and Mrs. or do we allow more than one account per person now? Perhaps it's always been there but I just noticed it tonight!?!
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What's with [multi-login] up top by Welcome "username" [sign out], to the far left in the same bar as the inbox? looks like it lets you log-in to another ktc account? is this for Fraz and Mrs. or do we allow more than one account per person now? Perhaps it's always been there but I just noticed it tonight!?!
I think it just popped up. Someone else asked. We are asking the host what's up. Multiple accounts are still a no no.
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What's with [multi-login] up top by Welcome "username" [sign out], to the far left in the same bar as the inbox? looks like it lets you log-in to another ktc account? is this for Fraz and Mrs. or do we allow more than one account per person now? Perhaps it's always been there but I just noticed it tonight!?!
I think it just popped up. Someone else asked. We are asking the host what's up. Multiple accounts are still a no no.
There were some recent "upgrades" made. That was one we obviously didn't want. Chews got it removed. It gone.
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Anyone using iOS 8?
I'm told it's different than previous versions on how you post roll on KTC?
I haven't updated yet, so can't see for myself what is going on and how to help. If it's different, please explain how to post roll so we can point people here.
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Anyone using iOS 8?
I'm told it's different than previous versions on how you post roll on KTC?
I haven't updated yet, so can't see for myself what is going on and how to help. If it's different, please explain how to post roll so we can point people here.
I have only, in 642 days, posted roll from my iPhone... until today.
I cannot figure it out with the new update. Hit quote... hold finger down... select all... then nothing.
Any ideas?
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Anyone using iOS 8?
I'm told it's different than previous versions on how you post roll on KTC?
I haven't updated yet, so can't see for myself what is going on and how to help. If it's different, please explain how to post roll so we can point people here.
I have only, in 642 days, posted roll from my iPhone... until today.
I cannot figure it out with the new update. Hit quote... hold finger down... select all... then nothing.
Any ideas?
I've updated, I've used it, no problems.
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Anyone using iOS 8?
I'm told it's different than previous versions on how you post roll on KTC?
I haven't updated yet, so can't see for myself what is going on and how to help. If it's different, please explain how to post roll so we can point people here.
I have only, in 642 days, posted roll from my iPhone... until today.
I cannot figure it out with the new update. Hit quote... hold finger down... select all... then nothing.
Any ideas?
I've updated, I've used it, no problems.
I updated earlier today and I can't figure it out either. Can't cut the original post. When you select all the entire page is highlighted.
Got it to work once but not the next time.
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Anyone using iOS 8?
I'm told it's different than previous versions on how you post roll on KTC?
I haven't updated yet, so can't see for myself what is going on and how to help. If it's different, please explain how to post roll so we can point people here.
I have only, in 642 days, posted roll from my iPhone... until today.
I cannot figure it out with the new update. Hit quote... hold finger down... select all... then nothing.
Any ideas?
I've updated, I've used it, no problems.
I updated earlier today and I can't figure it out either. Can't cut the original post. When you select all the entire page is highlighted.
Got it to work once but not the next time.
When selecting to cut make sure the cursor is on the last word of the post, that seems to work.
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Its my first quit day. Looking for a rollcall I can post to every morning or anytime a crave / mood rushes over.
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Its my first quit day. Looking for a rollcall I can post to every morning or anytime a crave / mood rushes over.
Welcome aboard!
You're a part of the January 2015 HOF class - stop by and jump right in! topic/10564902/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/10564902/)
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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/29/busin ... ience_r=1 (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/29/business/dire-warnings-by-big-tobacco-on-e-smoking-.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&smid=tw-nytimesscience&_r=1)
When I read this article, the first thing I thought was that Big Tobacco wants people to come back to cigarettes and chew...
Wild story and worth a read!
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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/29/busin ... ience_r=1 (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/29/business/dire-warnings-by-big-tobacco-on-e-smoking-.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&smid=tw-nytimesscience&_r=1)
When I read this article, the first thing I thought was that Big Tobacco wants people to come back to cigarettes and chew...
Wild story and worth a read!
GREAT find... thanks for passing along.
Definitely some alterior motives going on there...
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New Blog Post: Ode To Day 84 – With KTC We Are Never Alone
http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/09/ode- ... ver-alone/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/09/ode-to-day-84-with-ktc-we-are-never-alone/)
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Its my first quit day. Looking for a rollcall I can post to every morning or anytime a crave / mood rushes over.
Go to the introductions section and tell us about yourself. You will be given tons of help after that. If you were unsure which Quit Group you belong to you will be enlightened (I think it would be January 2015). The directions for posting roll are on the welcome page and I'm certain that folks will fill you in when you introduce yourself.
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Anyone using iOS 8?
I'm told it's different than previous versions on how you post roll on KTC?
I haven't updated yet, so can't see for myself what is going on and how to help. If it's different, please explain how to post roll so we can point people here.
I have only, in 642 days, posted roll from my iPhone... until today.
I cannot figure it out with the new update. Hit quote... hold finger down... select all... then nothing.
Any ideas?
I've updated, I've used it, no problems.
I updated earlier today and I can't figure it out either. Can't cut the original post. When you select all the entire page is highlighted.
Got it to work once but not the next time.
When selecting to cut make sure the cursor is on the last word of the post, that seems to work.
Am I the only one that can't figure this out?
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Anyone using iOS 8?
I'm told it's different than previous versions on how you post roll on KTC?
I haven't updated yet, so can't see for myself what is going on and how to help. If it's different, please explain how to post roll so we can point people here.
I have only, in 642 days, posted roll from my iPhone... until today.
I cannot figure it out with the new update. Hit quote... hold finger down... select all... then nothing.
Any ideas?
I've updated, I've used it, no problems.
I updated earlier today and I can't figure it out either. Can't cut the original post. When you select all the entire page is highlighted.
Got it to work once but not the next time.
When selecting to cut make sure the cursor is on the last word of the post, that seems to work.
Am I the only one that can't figure this out?
I guess wt's suggestion of cursor placement didn't work?
Sorry, man, I haven't updated yet based on this so I can't help. Anyone else?
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Anyone using iOS 8?
I'm told it's different than previous versions on how you post roll on KTC?
I haven't updated yet, so can't see for myself what is going on and how to help. If it's different, please explain how to post roll so we can point people here.
I have only, in 642 days, posted roll from my iPhone... until today.
I cannot figure it out with the new update. Hit quote... hold finger down... select all... then nothing.
Any ideas?
I've updated, I've used it, no problems.
I updated earlier today and I can't figure it out either. Can't cut the original post. When you select all the entire page is highlighted.
Got it to work once but not the next time.
When selecting to cut make sure the cursor is on the last word of the post, that seems to work.
Am I the only one that can't figure this out?
I guess wt's suggestion of cursor placement didn't work?
Sorry, man, I haven't updated yet based on this so I can't help. Anyone else?
It does suck! If I was new I'd say screw it. Sometimes it's nearly impossible to get that curser where you want it.
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Anyone using iOS 8?
I'm told it's different than previous versions on how you post roll on KTC?
I haven't updated yet, so can't see for myself what is going on and how to help. If it's different, please explain how to post roll so we can point people here.
I have only, in 642 days, posted roll from my iPhone... until today.
I cannot figure it out with the new update. Hit quote... hold finger down... select all... then nothing.
Any ideas?
I've updated, I've used it, no problems.
I updated earlier today and I can't figure it out either. Can't cut the original post. When you select all the entire page is highlighted.
Got it to work once but not the next time.
When selecting to cut make sure the cursor is on the last word of the post, that seems to work.
Am I the only one that can't figure this out?
I guess wt's suggestion of cursor placement didn't work?
Sorry, man, I haven't updated yet based on this so I can't help. Anyone else?
It does suck! If I was new I'd say screw it. Sometimes it's nearly impossible to get that curser where you want it.
Even with the older iOS, sometimes After the text is highlighted, I do not get the coypu or cut buttons. I then have to scroll the whole page just a fraction and when I release the cut or copy function then appears.
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Anyone using iOS 8?
I'm told it's different than previous versions on how you post roll on KTC?
I haven't updated yet, so can't see for myself what is going on and how to help. If it's different, please explain how to post roll so we can point people here.
I have only, in 642 days, posted roll from my iPhone... until today.
I cannot figure it out with the new update. Hit quote... hold finger down... select all... then nothing.
Any ideas?
I've updated, I've used it, no problems.
I updated earlier today and I can't figure it out either. Can't cut the original post. When you select all the entire page is highlighted.
Got it to work once but not the next time.
When selecting to cut make sure the cursor is on the last word of the post, that seems to work.
Am I the only one that can't figure this out?
I guess wt's suggestion of cursor placement didn't work?
Sorry, man, I haven't updated yet based on this so I can't help. Anyone else?
It does suck! If I was new I'd say screw it. Sometimes it's nearly impossible to get that curser where you want it.
Even with the older iOS, sometimes After the text is highlighted, I do not get the coypu or cut buttons. I then have to scroll the whole page just a fraction and when I release the cut or copy function then appears.
I've experienced everything everyone has mentioned here, and yes, sometimes I need to make sure the cursor is at the end.
FUSTEVEJOBSRIP
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Anyone using iOS 8?
I'm told it's different than previous versions on how you post roll on KTC?
I haven't updated yet, so can't see for myself what is going on and how to help. If it's different, please explain how to post roll so we can point people here.
I have only, in 642 days, posted roll from my iPhone... until today.
I cannot figure it out with the new update. Hit quote... hold finger down... select all... then nothing.
Any ideas?
I've updated, I've used it, no problems.
I updated earlier today and I can't figure it out either. Can't cut the original post. When you select all the entire page is highlighted.
Got it to work once but not the next time.
When selecting to cut make sure the cursor is on the last word of the post, that seems to work.
Am I the only one that can't figure this out?
I guess wt's suggestion of cursor placement didn't work?
Sorry, man, I haven't updated yet based on this so I can't help. Anyone else?
It does suck! If I was new I'd say screw it. Sometimes it's nearly impossible to get that curser where you want it.
Even with the older iOS, sometimes After the text is highlighted, I do not get the coypu or cut buttons. I then have to scroll the whole page just a fraction and when I release the cut or copy function then appears.
I've experienced everything everyone has mentioned here, and yes, sometimes I need to make sure the cursor is at the end.
FUSTEVEJOBSRIP
Edited by Rem - I did this from my phone with no problem.
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Anyone using iOS 8?
I'm told it's different than previous versions on how you post roll on KTC?
I haven't updated yet, so can't see for myself what is going on and how to help. If it's different, please explain how to post roll so we can point people here.
I have only, in 642 days, posted roll from my iPhone... until today.
I cannot figure it out with the new update. Hit quote... hold finger down... select all... then nothing.
Any ideas?
I've updated, I've used it, no problems.
I updated earlier today and I can't figure it out either. Can't cut the original post. When you select all the entire page is highlighted.
Got it to work once but not the next time.
When selecting to cut make sure the cursor is on the last word of the post, that seems to work.
Am I the only one that can't figure this out?
I guess wt's suggestion of cursor placement didn't work?
Sorry, man, I haven't updated yet based on this so I can't help. Anyone else?
It does suck! If I was new I'd say screw it. Sometimes it's nearly impossible to get that curser where you want it.
Even with the older iOS, sometimes After the text is highlighted, I do not get the coypu or cut buttons. I then have to scroll the whole page just a fraction and when I release the cut or copy function then appears.
I've experienced everything everyone has mentioned here, and yes, sometimes I need to make sure the cursor is at the end.
FUSTEVEJOBSRIP
Tap the bottom box, it should enlarge. Tap it again - might have to hold your finger on it longer, select/select all etc should pop up, tap select all then tap cut,then tap on the top box twice and the paste option should pop up.
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Anyone using iOS 8?
I'm told it's different than previous versions on how you post roll on KTC?
I haven't updated yet, so can't see for myself what is going on and how to help. If it's different, please explain how to post roll so we can point people here.
I have only, in 642 days, posted roll from my iPhone... until today.
I cannot figure it out with the new update. Hit quote... hold finger down... select all... then nothing.
Any ideas?
I've updated, I've used it, no problems.
I updated earlier today and I can't figure it out either. Can't cut the original post. When you select all the entire page is highlighted.
Got it to work once but not the next time.
When selecting to cut make sure the cursor is on the last word of the post, that seems to work.
Am I the only one that can't figure this out?
I guess wt's suggestion of cursor placement didn't work?
Sorry, man, I haven't updated yet based on this so I can't help. Anyone else?
It does suck! If I was new I'd say screw it. Sometimes it's nearly impossible to get that curser where you want it.
Even with the older iOS, sometimes After the text is highlighted, I do not get the coypu or cut buttons. I then have to scroll the whole page just a fraction and when I release the cut or copy function then appears.
I've experienced everything everyone has mentioned here, and yes, sometimes I need to make sure the cursor is at the end.
FUSTEVEJOBSRIP
Tap the bottom box, it should enlarge. Tap it again - might have to hold your finger on it longer, select/select all etc should pop up, tap select all then tap cut,then tap on the top box twice and the paste option should pop up.
Those that are haveing trouble, what phone are you using? I'm on a 4s and it sucks. Most of the time when 'selecting all' the whole damn page highlights. I've posted on this phone nearly every day for 916 days and have dealt with changes but this is terrible, getting to that last word in the bottom box isn't easy. Scrolling within the box is nearly impossible sometimes.
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Anyone using iOS 8?
I'm told it's different than previous versions on how you post roll on KTC?
I haven't updated yet, so can't see for myself what is going on and how to help. If it's different, please explain how to post roll so we can point people here.
I have only, in 642 days, posted roll from my iPhone... until today.
I cannot figure it out with the new update. Hit quote... hold finger down... select all... then nothing.
Any ideas?
I've updated, I've used it, no problems.
I updated earlier today and I can't figure it out either. Can't cut the original post. When you select all the entire page is highlighted.
Got it to work once but not the next time.
When selecting to cut make sure the cursor is on the last word of the post, that seems to work.
Am I the only one that can't figure this out?
I guess wt's suggestion of cursor placement didn't work?
Sorry, man, I haven't updated yet based on this so I can't help. Anyone else?
It does suck! If I was new I'd say screw it. Sometimes it's nearly impossible to get that curser where you want it.
Even with the older iOS, sometimes After the text is highlighted, I do not get the coypu or cut buttons. I then have to scroll the whole page just a fraction and when I release the cut or copy function then appears.
I've experienced everything everyone has mentioned here, and yes, sometimes I need to make sure the cursor is at the end.
FUSTEVEJOBSRIP
Tap the bottom box, it should enlarge. Tap it again - might have to hold your finger on it longer, select/select all etc should pop up, tap select all then tap cut,then tap on the top box twice and the paste option should pop up.
Those that are haveing trouble, what phone are you using? I'm on a 4s and it sucks. Most of the time when 'selecting all' the whole damn page highlights. I've posted on this phone nearly every day for 916 days and have dealt with changes but this is terrible, getting to that last word in the bottom box isn't easy. Scrolling within the box is nearly impossible sometimes.
For what it's worth - I've opened up a support ticket with Zetaboards. I'm not sure if it's something they can / will address as it's not really their stuff that's broken, but I'm doing what I can from the tech side of things. Will report back here when I hear something.
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Hello all,
New to sight and recently gave up chewing (hopefully for last time). I went cold turkey for the first 72 hours and it was up and down to say the least. I recently bought some Smokey Mountain tobacco free snuff. Would you recommend using the tobacco free snuff as a way to handle the cravings? Does this count as "cheating"?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Hello all,
New to sight and recently gave up chewing (hopefully for last time). I went cold turkey for the first 72 hours and it was up and down to say the least. I recently bought some Smokey Mountain tobacco free snuff. Would you recommend using the tobacco free snuff as a way to handle the cravings? Does this count as "cheating"?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Welcome!
Yes, I personally would suggest using SMC as a tool. It's a TREMENDOUS way to deal with those craving that will come.
And no, it's doesn't count as cheating as it contains no nicotine and no tobacco.
Let us know how we can help!
chewie
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Hello all,
New to sight and recently gave up chewing (hopefully for last time). I went cold turkey for the first 72 hours and it was up and down to say the least. I recently bought some Smokey Mountain tobacco free snuff. Would you recommend using the tobacco free snuff as a way to handle the cravings? Does this count as "cheating"?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Welcome to the site!
If the fake stuff helps you stay quit - use it. It is not cheating.
Couple of things - there is no "hoping" here. There is only doing..Quit is quit, there is no going back. Keep nicotine out of your mouth, lungs, blood stream, etc. That is called caving and is definitely not condoned...Go into the quit group section and post roll call. Then do it again tomorrow. Repeat. That is how we give our words, that we will not use nicotine.
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Happy New Year quitters! Welcome to our newest members!!!
'help' I'm having a hard time coping without copehnagen. I need all the help I can get. I yelled at my mom for washing the dishes. I need advice.
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Happy New Year quitters! Welcome to our newest members!!!
'help' I'm having a hard time coping without copehnagen. I need all the help I can get. I yelled at my mom for washing the dishes. I need advice.
First, you can't quit with copenhagen.... 'finger point' 'facepalm''
Second.....How old are you and how long have you been dipping?
Third, be sure you got rid of ALL of the dip..Flush it, piss on it, just make sure it is gone. Get on the site and read. Get some sunflower seeds, red hots, hot tamales, and whatever else you can use in your mouth instead of dip, if you need it.
#-4 days of hell, then it starts to get better, but you have to WORK at it....Get in here and learn and talk to other quitters.
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*poof*
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Anyone using iOS 8?
I'm told it's different than previous versions on how you post roll on KTC?
I haven't updated yet, so can't see for myself what is going on and how to help. If it's different, please explain how to post roll so we can point people here.
I have only, in 642 days, posted roll from my iPhone... until today.
I cannot figure it out with the new update. Hit quote... hold finger down... select all... then nothing.
Any ideas?
I've updated, I've used it, no problems.
I updated earlier today and I can't figure it out either. Can't cut the original post. When you select all the entire page is highlighted.
Got it to work once but not the next time.
When selecting to cut make sure the cursor is on the last word of the post, that seems to work.
Am I the only one that can't figure this out?
I guess wt's suggestion of cursor placement didn't work?
Sorry, man, I haven't updated yet based on this so I can't help. Anyone else?
It does suck! If I was new I'd say screw it. Sometimes it's nearly impossible to get that curser where you want it.
Even with the older iOS, sometimes After the text is highlighted, I do not get the coypu or cut buttons. I then have to scroll the whole page just a fraction and when I release the cut or copy function then appears.
I've experienced everything everyone has mentioned here, and yes, sometimes I need to make sure the cursor is at the end.
FUSTEVEJOBSRIP
Tap the bottom box, it should enlarge. Tap it again - might have to hold your finger on it longer, select/select all etc should pop up, tap select all then tap cut,then tap on the top box twice and the paste option should pop up.
Those that are haveing trouble, what phone are you using? I'm on a 4s and it sucks. Most of the time when 'selecting all' the whole damn page highlights. I've posted on this phone nearly every day for 916 days and have dealt with changes but this is terrible, getting to that last word in the bottom box isn't easy. Scrolling within the box is nearly impossible sometimes.
For what it's worth - I've opened up a support ticket with Zetaboards. I'm not sure if it's something they can / will address as it's not really their stuff that's broken, but I'm doing what I can from the tech side of things. Will report back here when I hear something.
4S also. It is impossible. I used to post in 16 groups a day. Now I'm usually asking for hel to post in mine only. Thanks chewie. Appreciate the help.
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Having some issues this AM with the host that hosts our forums images (header, buttons, etc.)
If you're having problems posting roll, you can use this blog post: http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/10/roll ... -6th-2014/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/10/roll-call-for-monday-october-6th-2014/)
In addition, in the meantime you can switch the theme from KTC to ZETA ORIGINAL and you'll get your buttons back.
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Having some issues this AM with the host that hosts our forums images (header, buttons, etc.)
If you're having problems posting roll, you can use this blog post: http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/10/roll ... -6th-2014/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/10/roll-call-for-monday-october-6th-2014/)
In addition, in the meantime you can switch the theme from KTC to ZETA ORIGINAL and you'll get your buttons back.
'get your buttons back.
Made me chuckle.
Bitches.
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Having some issues this AM with the host that hosts our forums images (header, buttons, etc.)
If you're having problems posting roll, you can use this blog post: http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/10/roll ... -6th-2014/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/10/roll-call-for-monday-october-6th-2014/)
In addition, in the meantime you can switch the theme from KTC to ZETA ORIGINAL and you'll get your buttons back.
'get your buttons back.
Made me chuckle.
Bitches.
I think everything's back to normal and you can revert back to the KillTheCan.org theme. Let me know if I've missed anything (IE if you're still seeing missing images)
Thanks,
Chewie
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Having some issues this AM with the host that hosts our forums images (header, buttons, etc.)
If you're having problems posting roll, you can use this blog post: http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/10/roll ... -6th-2014/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/10/roll-call-for-monday-october-6th-2014/)
In addition, in the meantime you can switch the theme from KTC to ZETA ORIGINAL and you'll get your buttons back.
'get your buttons back.
Made me chuckle.
Bitches.
I think everything's back to normal and you can revert back to the KillTheCan.org theme. Let me know if I've missed anything (IE if you're still seeing missing images)
Thanks,
Chewie
the two sided printer is still messing up 'bang head'
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Is something wrong with "Chat" or is it just me that is having a hard time getting on there?
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I am trying to quit. I've chewed since I was 13, I'm now 45. My wife tells me I am weak, and that I must not love my family because I can't (won't) quit. I don't know what to do. I wish I was strong and able to quit. Please help.
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I am trying to quit. I've chewed since I was 13, I'm now 45. My wife tells me I am weak, and that I must not love my family because I can't (won't) quit. I don't know what to do. I wish I was strong and able to quit. Please help.
Poof, put it in his intro
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Is something wrong with "Chat" or is it just me that is having a hard time getting on there?
bump
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Is something wrong with "Chat" or is it just me that is having a hard time getting on there?
bump
Sorry for the late response... we were having issues with one of our hosts yesterday which was causing issues with the images here on the forums as well as chat. Everything should be OK at this point.
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New to the community and not sure where to go/what to do. I'm on day 9 and feeling like KTC is going to help like nothing else!
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New to the community and not sure where to go/what to do. I'm on day 9 and feeling like KTC is going to help like nothing else!
Welcome.
Click on this and read it and then read some more.
topic/1003535/1/?x=90 (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1003535/1/?x=90)
Start posting roll and meet some awesome quitters.
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Had my last dip yesterday - today has been my quit day.
Haven't done well so far - stopped at the gas station to fill up.
Went inside and got a bottle of water - almost said fuck it and bought a can (what's one more going to do?)
But kept to the steps and will be drinking one more water bottle before I hit the sack.
I work out regularly. Consider myself a fit guy - had a personal record yesterday in the gym - on the 6th set of pull-ups, did 5 reps with 25 lbs attached to my belt. I want to know what it feels like to work out when I don't have tobacco in my system. Haven't felt that since I was a junior in high school.
I'm 25 now and have been dipping for 7 years - the first 3 were a can every 3-5 days - the next 2 years were a can every other day and the last 2 years has been between a can and a can a half a day.
This is going to be the hardest thing I do - but what will keep me strong? ME - this is for me, this is my life. I could die in a car accident or catch some disease, but this is something I can control.
Here is what I want - I want to know what it feels like...
to taste food without having a dip before and after - REAL food
to be 100% hydrated and not have cotton mouth
to work out in the gym with NO trace of tobacco in my system (maybe I could have done 10 rep pull-ups at 35 lbs)
to kiss the love of my life and not wonder whether she can taste the Skoal Mint breath
to wake up in the morning and not smell my own breath in disgust
to have a water bottle at my bedside that is reusable and not a spitter
to be unattached to a circle tin that contains a substance that I've used every day of my life for 7 years with one sole purpose: to shorten my life
to be at a tailgate and not ask for a cigarette because I left my dip can at home
to not get caught with a can of dip I forgot about 2 months ago
to go through my bag and not hear tins bumping against each other
to go hunting with a new call and it not turn brown
to have whiter teeth
to not be scared to go to the dentist and be proud that I have a clean bill of teeth
...to not lie to anyone, especially myself anymore and be dependent on a substance like some junkie
This is the first blog of many and I cannot wait until day +100 when I post my last inspiring everyone to follow suit because the end goal is worth much more than sitting in a doctor's office 20-30 years from now when I'm 50 and being told I have cancer and my kids won't have a father and my wife won't have a husband and my sister won't have a brother.
I am not an egotistical person, but dammit THIS IS MY LIFE AND I CAN CHOOSE TO BE THE MASTER OF MY DIRECTION - I CHOOSE TO QUIT THE DIP BECAUSE I CAN AND I WILL
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Had my last dip yesterday - today has been my quit day.
Haven't done well so far - stopped at the gas station to fill up.
Went inside and got a bottle of water - almost said fuck it and bought a can (what's one more going to do?)
But kept to the steps and will be drinking one more water bottle before I hit the sack.
I work out regularly. Consider myself a fit guy - had a personal record yesterday in the gym - on the 6th set of pull-ups, did 5 reps with 25 lbs attached to my belt. I want to know what it feels like to work out when I don't have tobacco in my system. Haven't felt that since I was a junior in high school.
I'm 25 now and have been dipping for 7 years - the first 3 were a can every 3-5 days - the next 2 years were a can every other day and the last 2 years has been between a can and a can a half a day.
This is going to be the hardest thing I do - but what will keep me strong? ME - this is for me, this is my life. I could die in a car accident or catch some disease, but this is something I can control.
Here is what I want - I want to know what it feels like...
to taste food without having a dip before and after - REAL food
to be 100% hydrated and not have cotton mouth
to work out in the gym with NO trace of tobacco in my system (maybe I could have done 10 rep pull-ups at 35 lbs)
to kiss the love of my life and not wonder whether she can taste the Skoal Mint breath
to wake up in the morning and not smell my own breath in disgust
to have a water bottle at my bedside that is reusable and not a spitter
to be unattached to a circle tin that contains a substance that I've used every day of my life for 7 years with one sole purpose: to shorten my life
to be at a tailgate and not ask for a cigarette because I left my dip can at home
to not get caught with a can of dip I forgot about 2 months ago
to go through my bag and not hear tins bumping against each other
to go hunting with a new call and it not turn brown
to have whiter teeth
to not be scared to go to the dentist and be proud that I have a clean bill of teeth
...to not lie to anyone, especially myself anymore and be dependent on a substance like some junkie
This is the first blog of many and I cannot wait until day +100 when I post my last inspiring everyone to follow suit because the end goal is worth much more than sitting in a doctor's office 20-30 years from now when I'm 50 and being told I have cancer and my kids won't have a father and my wife won't have a husband and my sister won't have a brother.
I am not an egotistical person, but dammit THIS IS MY LIFE AND I CAN CHOOSE TO BE THE MASTER OF MY DIRECTION - I CHOOSE TO QUIT THE DIP BECAUSE I CAN AND I WILL
sounds good, looks like you haven't posted roll yet. Why not?
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Had my last dip yesterday - today has been my quit day.
Haven't done well so far - stopped at the gas station to fill up.
Went inside and got a bottle of water - almost said fuck it and bought a can (what's one more going to do?)
But kept to the steps and will be drinking one more water bottle before I hit the sack.
I work out regularly. Consider myself a fit guy - had a personal record yesterday in the gym - on the 6th set of pull-ups, did 5 reps with 25 lbs attached to my belt. I want to know what it feels like to work out when I don't have tobacco in my system. Haven't felt that since I was a junior in high school.
I'm 25 now and have been dipping for 7 years - the first 3 were a can every 3-5 days - the next 2 years were a can every other day and the last 2 years has been between a can and a can a half a day.
This is going to be the hardest thing I do - but what will keep me strong? ME - this is for me, this is my life. I could die in a car accident or catch some disease, but this is something I can control.
Here is what I want - I want to know what it feels like...
to taste food without having a dip before and after - REAL food
to be 100% hydrated and not have cotton mouth
to work out in the gym with NO trace of tobacco in my system (maybe I could have done 10 rep pull-ups at 35 lbs)
to kiss the love of my life and not wonder whether she can taste the Skoal Mint breath
to wake up in the morning and not smell my own breath in disgust
to have a water bottle at my bedside that is reusable and not a spitter
to be unattached to a circle tin that contains a substance that I've used every day of my life for 7 years with one sole purpose: to shorten my life
to be at a tailgate and not ask for a cigarette because I left my dip can at home
to not get caught with a can of dip I forgot about 2 months ago
to go through my bag and not hear tins bumping against each other
to go hunting with a new call and it not turn brown
to have whiter teeth
to not be scared to go to the dentist and be proud that I have a clean bill of teeth
...to not lie to anyone, especially myself anymore and be dependent on a substance like some junkie
This is the first blog of many and I cannot wait until day +100 when I post my last inspiring everyone to follow suit because the end goal is worth much more than sitting in a doctor's office 20-30 years from now when I'm 50 and being told I have cancer and my kids won't have a father and my wife won't have a husband and my sister won't have a brother.
I am not an egotistical person, but dammit THIS IS MY LIFE AND I CAN CHOOSE TO BE THE MASTER OF MY DIRECTION - I CHOOSE TO QUIT THE DIP BECAUSE I CAN AND I WILL
sounds good, looks like you haven't posted roll yet. Why not?
Bravo lax - welcome!
Some pretty wise words from a day 1 guy... sounds like you "get it" and that's awesome.
Head on over to your "home group" of January 2015, introduce yourself and post roll!
topic/10564902/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/10564902/)
Reach out if you need anything... you've got thousands of people ready and willing to help!
chewie
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Had my last dip yesterday - today has been my quit day.
Haven't done well so far - stopped at the gas station to fill up.
Went inside and got a bottle of water - almost said fuck it and bought a can (what's one more going to do?)
But kept to the steps and will be drinking one more water bottle before I hit the sack.
I work out regularly. Consider myself a fit guy - had a personal record yesterday in the gym - on the 6th set of pull-ups, did 5 reps with 25 lbs attached to my belt. I want to know what it feels like to work out when I don't have tobacco in my system. Haven't felt that since I was a junior in high school.
I'm 25 now and have been dipping for 7 years - the first 3 were a can every 3-5 days - the next 2 years were a can every other day and the last 2 years has been between a can and a can a half a day.
This is going to be the hardest thing I do - but what will keep me strong? ME - this is for me, this is my life. I could die in a car accident or catch some disease, but this is something I can control.
Here is what I want - I want to know what it feels like...
to taste food without having a dip before and after - REAL food
to be 100% hydrated and not have cotton mouth
to work out in the gym with NO trace of tobacco in my system (maybe I could have done 10 rep pull-ups at 35 lbs)
to kiss the love of my life and not wonder whether she can taste the Skoal Mint breath
to wake up in the morning and not smell my own breath in disgust
to have a water bottle at my bedside that is reusable and not a spitter
to be unattached to a circle tin that contains a substance that I've used every day of my life for 7 years with one sole purpose: to shorten my life
to be at a tailgate and not ask for a cigarette because I left my dip can at home
to not get caught with a can of dip I forgot about 2 months ago
to go through my bag and not hear tins bumping against each other
to go hunting with a new call and it not turn brown
to have whiter teeth
to not be scared to go to the dentist and be proud that I have a clean bill of teeth
...to not lie to anyone, especially myself anymore and be dependent on a substance like some junkie
This is the first blog of many and I cannot wait until day +100 when I post my last inspiring everyone to follow suit because the end goal is worth much more than sitting in a doctor's office 20-30 years from now when I'm 50 and being told I have cancer and my kids won't have a father and my wife won't have a husband and my sister won't have a brother.
I am not an egotistical person, but dammit THIS IS MY LIFE AND I CAN CHOOSE TO BE THE MASTER OF MY DIRECTION - I CHOOSE TO QUIT THE DIP BECAUSE I CAN AND I WILL
sounds good, looks like you haven't posted roll yet. Why not?
Bravo lax - welcome!
Some pretty wise words from a day 1 guy... sounds like you "get it" and that's awesome.
Head on over to your "home group" of January 2015, introduce yourself and post roll!
topic/10564902/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/10564902/)
Reach out if you need anything... you've got thousands of people ready and willing to help!
chewie
LaxGuy,
I'm good with everything you wrote except the last piece about writing your last column at day +100....while impressive, 100 days is nothing more than one milestone of many on a lifetime of quit. I hope to be reading many columns from you at 200, 300, 500, 800, 1,000 and beyond.
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Had my last dip yesterday - today has been my quit day.
Haven't done well so far - stopped at the gas station to fill up.
Went inside and got a bottle of water - almost said fuck it and bought a can (what's one more going to do?)
But kept to the steps and will be drinking one more water bottle before I hit the sack.
I work out regularly. Consider myself a fit guy - had a personal record yesterday in the gym - on the 6th set of pull-ups, did 5 reps with 25 lbs attached to my belt. I want to know what it feels like to work out when I don't have tobacco in my system. Haven't felt that since I was a junior in high school.
I'm 25 now and have been dipping for 7 years - the first 3 were a can every 3-5 days - the next 2 years were a can every other day and the last 2 years has been between a can and a can a half a day.
This is going to be the hardest thing I do - but what will keep me strong? ME - this is for me, this is my life. I could die in a car accident or catch some disease, but this is something I can control.
Here is what I want - I want to know what it feels like...
to taste food without having a dip before and after - REAL food
to be 100% hydrated and not have cotton mouth
to work out in the gym with NO trace of tobacco in my system (maybe I could have done 10 rep pull-ups at 35 lbs)
to kiss the love of my life and not wonder whether she can taste the Skoal Mint breath
to wake up in the morning and not smell my own breath in disgust
to have a water bottle at my bedside that is reusable and not a spitter
to be unattached to a circle tin that contains a substance that I've used every day of my life for 7 years with one sole purpose: to shorten my life
to be at a tailgate and not ask for a cigarette because I left my dip can at home
to not get caught with a can of dip I forgot about 2 months ago
to go through my bag and not hear tins bumping against each other
to go hunting with a new call and it not turn brown
to have whiter teeth
to not be scared to go to the dentist and be proud that I have a clean bill of teeth
...to not lie to anyone, especially myself anymore and be dependent on a substance like some junkie
This is the first blog of many and I cannot wait until day +100 when I post my last inspiring everyone to follow suit because the end goal is worth much more than sitting in a doctor's office 20-30 years from now when I'm 50 and being told I have cancer and my kids won't have a father and my wife won't have a husband and my sister won't have a brother.
I am not an egotistical person, but dammit THIS IS MY LIFE AND I CAN CHOOSE TO BE THE MASTER OF MY DIRECTION - I CHOOSE TO QUIT THE DIP BECAUSE I CAN AND I WILL
sounds good, looks like you haven't posted roll yet. Why not?
Bravo lax - welcome!
Some pretty wise words from a day 1 guy... sounds like you "get it" and that's awesome.
Head on over to your "home group" of January 2015, introduce yourself and post roll!
topic/10564902/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/10564902/)
Reach out if you need anything... you've got thousands of people ready and willing to help!
chewie
LaxGuy,
I'm good with everything you wrote except the last piece about writing your last column at day +100....while impressive, 100 days is nothing more than one milestone of many on a lifetime of quit. I hope to be reading many columns from you at 200, 300, 500, 800, 1,000 and beyond.
Won't happen cavman he's just another wannabe if it's easy.
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Hell ya...two commas in the Frazzled household as of today!
Frazz - 1,379
The Mrs. (aka KGirl) - 1,000
People, seriously, you can do this. 2,379 days of quit in one house? Yep.
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Hell ya...two commas in the Frazzled household as of today!
Frazz - 1,379
The Mrs. (aka KGirl) - 1,000
People, seriously, you can do this. 2,379 days of quit in one house? Yep.
Bravo, K.
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Hey y'all, well I tried to quit today and went 13 hours with no chew and through one in because I am weak. I have been chewing for 16 years and my wife and kids have begged me to quit for along time. I love to chew but I don't want to die from it. I set my date for tomorrow. Damn, I've got to do this. I need as much help as I can get from this group.
Thanks for reading.
'bang head'
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Hey y'all, well I tried to quit today and went 13 hours with no chew and through one in because I am weak. I have been chewing for 16 years and my wife and kids have begged me to quit for along time. I love to chew but I don't want to die from it. I set my date for tomorrow. Damn, I've got to do this. I need as much help as I can get from this group.
Thanks for reading.
'bang head'
Man the fuck up, pussy. You do realize you are being beaten by a fucking plant, right?
RIGHT?!?!?!
Weak ass shit. That's all you got.
You want help? Start by helping yourself! Flush your shit, grab a hold of your sack, and get serious about this.
Boo-fucking-hoo! I love dipping sooooooooo much! I'm soooooooo weak! It's harder for ME than it is for YOU all!
Pathetic.
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Hey y'all, well I tried to quit today and went 13 hours with no chew and through one in because I am weak. I have been chewing for 16 years and my wife and kids have begged me to quit for along time. I love to chew but I don't want to die from it. I set my date for tomorrow. Damn, I've got to do this. I need as much help as I can get from this group.
Thanks for reading.
'bang head'
Man the fuck up, pussy. You do realize you are being beaten by a fucking plant, right?
RIGHT?!?!?!
Weak ass shit. That's all you got.
You want help? Start by helping yourself! Flush your shit, grab a hold of your sack, and get serious about this.
Boo-fucking-hoo! I love dipping sooooooooo much! I'm soooooooo weak! It's harder for ME than it is for YOU all!
Pathetic.
Wow dirty...you're quit date is the 15th?
If you came here for support you better do what Nolaq said...then come back when you're serious and ready to do this. Until then...adiós
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Hey y'all, well I tried to quit today and went 13 hours with no chew and through one in because I am weak. I have been chewing for 16 years and my wife and kids have begged me to quit for along time. I love to chew but I don't want to die from it. I set my date for tomorrow. Damn, I've got to do this. I need as much help as I can get from this group.
Thanks for reading.
'bang head'
Man the fuck up, pussy. You do realize you are being beaten by a fucking plant, right?
RIGHT?!?!?!
Weak ass shit. That's all you got.
You want help? Start by helping yourself! Flush your shit, grab a hold of your sack, and get serious about this.
Boo-fucking-hoo! I love dipping sooooooooo much! I'm soooooooo weak! It's harder for ME than it is for YOU all!
Pathetic.
Wow dirty...you're quit date is the 15th?
If you came here for support you better do what Nolaq said...then come back when you're serious and ready to do this. Until then...adiós
It's tomorrow. Time to post up...or are you already gone?
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Hey y'all, well I tried to quit today and went 13 hours with no chew and through one in because I am weak. I have been chewing for 16 years and my wife and kids have begged me to quit for along time. I love to chew but I don't want to die from it. I set my date for tomorrow. Damn, I've got to do this. I need as much help as I can get from this group.
Thanks for reading.
'bang head'
Man the fuck up, pussy. You do realize you are being beaten by a fucking plant, right?
RIGHT?!?!?!
Weak ass shit. That's all you got.
You want help? Start by helping yourself! Flush your shit, grab a hold of your sack, and get serious about this.
Boo-fucking-hoo! I love dipping sooooooooo much! I'm soooooooo weak! It's harder for ME than it is for YOU all!
Pathetic.
Wow dirty...you're quit date is the 15th?
If you came here for support you better do what Nolaq said...then come back when you're serious and ready to do this. Until then...adiós
It's tomorrow. Time to post up...or are you already gone?
Guess he "through" one in again????
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Hell ya...two commas in the Frazzled household as of today!
Frazz - 1,379
The Mrs. (aka KGirl) - 1,000
People, seriously, you can do this. 2,379 days of quit in one house? Yep.
Bravo, K.
Nice Fraz!!!!!
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Ok I'm new. I'm a 41 yr old woman and I've dipped for 27 years. Started at 14 yrs old hanging out with all my guy buddies. People are always shocked when they realize I'm a dipper. They say I don't fit the image. I wonder what that image is? Anyway. I've decided to try and quit but I know I'll need some fake stuff I'm trying to figure out which ones won't make your heart race. How about Jakes? Hv any of yall tried it and is it caffeine free and herbal free? Thanks guys. I really appreciate it.
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Ok I'm new. I'm a 41 yr old woman and I've dipped for 27 years. Started at 14 yrs old hanging out with all my guy buddies. People are always shocked when they realize I'm a dipper. They say I don't fit the image. I wonder what that image is? Anyway. I've decided to try and quit but I know I'll need some fake stuff I'm trying to figure out which ones won't make your heart race. How about Jakes? Hv any of yall tried it and is it caffeine free and herbal free? Thanks guys. I really appreciate it.
Mis - welcome.
Yes, Jake's is caffeine free. Not sure what you mean by "herbal" free. Jake's ingrdients are listed here: http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/smo ... gredients/ (http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/smokeless-alternative-ingredients/jakes-mint-chew-ingredients/)
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K thanks Chewie. I just meant some of the herbal snuffs hv energy additives. I'll check out your link. How'd you add a picture? I tried and it said my avatar was too big. ?
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K thanks Chewie. I just meant some of the herbal snuffs hv energy additives. I'll check out your link. How'd you add a picture? I tried and it said my avatar was too big. ?
the board gets funky sometimes with avatars - send me an email with the picture you want and I'll take care of it - photos(at)killthecan.org
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Day #1. I got some fake snuff and am starting right now. Gonna kill the can.
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K thanks Chewie. I just meant some of the herbal snuffs hv energy additives. I'll check out your link. How'd you add a picture? I tried and it said my avatar was too big. ?
the board gets funky sometimes with avatars - send me an email with the picture you want and I'll take care of it - photos(at)killthecan.org
As for alternatives, if you're looking for something that does NOT contain caffeine / energy boost, stay away from the following as they all contain "boosts"
Bacc-Off Energy
Teaza Energy
Grinds (caffeine from coffee)
Cowboy (caffeine from coffee)
Nip
Major League (caffeine from coffee)
Go Coffee Energy (caffeine from coffee)
There are some GREAT products in the list above, but if you don't want the "boost" they're not for you.
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Day #1. I got some fake snuff and am starting right now. Gonna kill the can.
BOOM! Well done!
Welcome aboard!
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If any of you are on a Coumadin (warfarin) treatment plan and want more reasons to stay quit, please realize the smokeless tobacco contains a bunch of vitamin K. This will decrease the effectiveness of warfarin, lower your INR, and possibly lead to the formation of additional unwanted blood clots. I had a clot in 2005 and had been taking aspirin daily since then the bad thing was I continued to eat vitamin K rich foods and always had a dip in. All that time up until August of this year, I had been canceling the effectiveness of the aspirin and subjecting myself to cancer and a host of other maladies. I was well on my way to killing myself until I landed in the hospital and finally resurrected my 2013 membership to KTC. Here I am 72 days quit and happy to be alive.
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If any of you are on a Coumadin (warfarin) treatment plan and want more reasons to stay quit, please realize the smokeless tobacco contains a bunch of vitamin K. This will decrease the effectiveness of warfarin, lower your INR, and possibly lead to the formation of additional unwanted blood clots. I had a clot in 2005 and had been taking aspirin daily since then the bad thing was I continued to eat vitamin K rich foods and always had a dip in. All that time up until August of this year, I had been canceling the effectiveness of the aspirin and subjecting myself to cancer and a host of other maladies. I was well on my way to killing myself until I landed in the hospital and finally resurrected my 2013 membership to KTC. Here I am 72 days quit and happy to be alive.
Glad you're back!
Glad you're quit!
Glad you're alive!
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New Blog Post: Dip Free Hunting Season 2014 – Send In Your Pics
http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/10/dip- ... your-pics/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/10/dip-free-hunting-season-2014-send-in-your-pics/)
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Ok I'm new. I'm a 41 yr old woman and I've dipped for 27 years. Started at 14 yrs old hanging out with all my guy buddies. People are always shocked when they realize I'm a dipper. They say I don't fit the image. I wonder what that image is? Anyway. I've decided to try and quit but I know I'll need some fake stuff I'm trying to figure out which ones won't make your heart race. How about Jakes? Hv any of yall tried it and is it caffeine free and herbal free? Thanks guys. I really appreciate it.
Mis, welcome.
I tried Jake's Mint - chopped up leaves, dries out quickly, odd taste.
Smokey Mountain is made from corn silk and has a much more familiar texture, wintergreen tastes similar to a lifesaver.
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I came across this site today, i am 38 and have been chewing since i was 16. I have quit before but always return adn usually chewing more then i was before. I need to quit i know this.
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I came across this site today, i am 38 and have been chewing since i was 16. I have quit before but always return adn usually chewing more then i was before. I need to quit i know this.
Moto288,
You have came to the right place. First thing to do is to dump all cans and spitters. This is the first day of your quit.
Second thing is to post roll, this is the backbone of the website, your promise to not use nicotine today.
1. topic/1003072/1/#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1003072/1/#new)
2. topic/10564902/246/#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/10564902/246/#new)
Then read everything thing on this site, introductions, hall of fame speeches, build a network of accountability.
Get ready to fight for your quit, after a lifetime of addiction your body and mind are going to be tested.
Live chat and check your inbox, you got this!
Charles
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Anyone using iOS 8?
I'm told it's different than previous versions on how you post roll on KTC?
I haven't updated yet, so can't see for myself what is going on and how to help. If it's different, please explain how to post roll so we can point people here.
I have only, in 642 days, posted roll from my iPhone... until today.
I cannot figure it out with the new update. Hit quote... hold finger down... select all... then nothing.
Any ideas?
I've updated, I've used it, no problems.
I updated earlier today and I can't figure it out either. Can't cut the original post. When you select all the entire page is highlighted.
Got it to work once but not the next time.
When selecting to cut make sure the cursor is on the last word of the post, that seems to work.
Am I the only one that can't figure this out?
I guess wt's suggestion of cursor placement didn't work?
Sorry, man, I haven't updated yet based on this so I can't help. Anyone else?
It does suck! If I was new I'd say screw it. Sometimes it's nearly impossible to get that curser where you want it.
Even with the older iOS, sometimes After the text is highlighted, I do not get the coypu or cut buttons. I then have to scroll the whole page just a fraction and when I release the cut or copy function then appears.
I've experienced everything everyone has mentioned here, and yes, sometimes I need to make sure the cursor is at the end.
FUSTEVEJOBSRIP
Tap the bottom box, it should enlarge. Tap it again - might have to hold your finger on it longer, select/select all etc should pop up, tap select all then tap cut,then tap on the top box twice and the paste option should pop up.
Those that are haveing trouble, what phone are you using? I'm on a 4s and it sucks. Most of the time when 'selecting all' the whole damn page highlights. I've posted on this phone nearly every day for 916 days and have dealt with changes but this is terrible, getting to that last word in the bottom box isn't easy. Scrolling within the box is nearly impossible sometimes.
For what it's worth - I've opened up a support ticket with Zetaboards. I'm not sure if it's something they can / will address as it's not really their stuff that's broken, but I'm doing what I can from the tech side of things. Will report back here when I hear something.
4S also. It is impossible. I used to post in 16 groups a day. Now I'm usually asking for hel to post in mine only. Thanks chewie. Appreciate the help.
Heard back from support on this issue.
They were able to confirm the issue using 8.1 and they're trying to diagnose the cause to see if its something they can fix on their end, or if they will have to wait for another Apple update.
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Anyone using iOS 8?
I'm told it's different than previous versions on how you post roll on KTC?
I haven't updated yet, so can't see for myself what is going on and how to help. If it's different, please explain how to post roll so we can point people here.
I have only, in 642 days, posted roll from my iPhone... until today.
I cannot figure it out with the new update. Hit quote... hold finger down... select all... then nothing.
Any ideas?
I've updated, I've used it, no problems.
I updated earlier today and I can't figure it out either. Can't cut the original post. When you select all the entire page is highlighted.
Got it to work once but not the next time.
When selecting to cut make sure the cursor is on the last word of the post, that seems to work.
Am I the only one that can't figure this out?
I guess wt's suggestion of cursor placement didn't work?
Sorry, man, I haven't updated yet based on this so I can't help. Anyone else?
It does suck! If I was new I'd say screw it. Sometimes it's nearly impossible to get that curser where you want it.
Even with the older iOS, sometimes After the text is highlighted, I do not get the coypu or cut buttons. I then have to scroll the whole page just a fraction and when I release the cut or copy function then appears.
I've experienced everything everyone has mentioned here, and yes, sometimes I need to make sure the cursor is at the end.
FUSTEVEJOBSRIP
Tap the bottom box, it should enlarge. Tap it again - might have to hold your finger on it longer, select/select all etc should pop up, tap select all then tap cut,then tap on the top box twice and the paste option should pop up.
Those that are haveing trouble, what phone are you using? I'm on a 4s and it sucks. Most of the time when 'selecting all' the whole damn page highlights. I've posted on this phone nearly every day for 916 days and have dealt with changes but this is terrible, getting to that last word in the bottom box isn't easy. Scrolling within the box is nearly impossible sometimes.
For what it's worth - I've opened up a support ticket with Zetaboards. I'm not sure if it's something they can / will address as it's not really their stuff that's broken, but I'm doing what I can from the tech side of things. Will report back here when I hear something.
4S also. It is impossible. I used to post in 16 groups a day. Now I'm usually asking for hel to post in mine only. Thanks chewie. Appreciate the help.
Heard back from support on this issue.
They were able to confirm the issue using 8.1 and they're trying to diagnose the cause to see if its something they can fix on their end, or if they will have to wait for another Apple update.
8.2
Bitches.
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I am on Day 3 today and so far it has not been that bad, been doing the smokey mountain stuff, I like winter green pouches. In the military so chewing is ok in my shop and it got out of control when I dipped 3 cans a day going on 9 years. So far the only thing it affects is my sleep I stay up way later and wake up almost every hour for no reason. I went into the gas station today and thought hmm.. I should buy a can....then when I got to the front of the line, I thought ehh better not. I have always worked out hard every day almost so I think all that sweating has helped. I just want to throw a dip in and then I put in one of the fake pouches and it does the trick. Great website been coming here for weeks, setting a time and day to quit.
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I am on Day 3 today and so far it has not been that bad, been doing the smokey mountain stuff, I like winter green pouches. In the military so chewing is ok in my shop and it got out of control when I dipped 3 cans a day going on 9 years. So far the only thing it affects is my sleep I stay up way later and wake up almost every hour for no reason. I went into the gas station today and thought hmm.. I should buy a can....then when I got to the front of the line, I thought ehh better not. I have always worked out hard every day almost so I think all that sweating has helped. I just want to throw a dip in and then I put in one of the fake pouches and it does the trick. Great website been coming here for weeks, setting a time and day to quit.
I'm confused. Are you Day 3 Quit, or are you setting a day to Quit?
If you are on Day 3, then get your ass to Jan 2015 and join your brothers.
If you are waiting for some magical day...it's here. It's Now.
You say this is a great website, and you've been coming here for weeks, but your join date is today, and you have one singular post. Why not jump in tits deep and get involved. This place will save your life.
I'm proof it works.
-Nolaq - Day 1,677
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I'm new here, just singed up today. Been thinking about quitting for a while now (who hasn't?). I started smoking about 6 years ago. Then I started chewing on and off about 3 years ago, starting chewing more and more over the past year. I decided to stop smoking and figured it'd be easier if I used a little chew to help not smoke. BIG mistake! I'm almost 3 weeks without a cigarette now but I've been chewing like crazy, with an hour drive to and from work it's hard not to. I made up my mind to order some herbal nicotine chew and see how that does. Once that comes in the mail I'm gonna throw out my Cope for good.
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I'm new here, just singed up today. Been thinking about quitting for a while now (who hasn't?). I started smoking about 6 years ago. Then I started chewing on and off about 3 years ago, starting chewing more and more over the past year. I decided to stop smoking and figured it'd be easier if I used a little chew to help not smoke. BIG mistake! I'm almost 3 weeks without a cigarette now but I've been chewing like crazy, with an hour drive to and from work it's hard not to. I made up my mind to order some herbal nicotine chew and see how that does. Once that comes in the mail I'm gonna throw out my Cope for good.
Matt Welcome to KTC,
Chew and nicotine is a hard addiction to quit (harder than cigarettes).
First step is to get over the January 2015 Pre HOF and post roll. This is your daily promise to not use nicotine in any form.
It is going to be hard, fake chew, gum, seeds, and a lot of water will help. This site works, read, build a network of support.
topic/10564902/301/#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/10564902/301/#new)
Try these instructions for: PC How to post roll
1. Login, go to your quit page, think about what you are going to post.
2. Find the most recent post
3. hit F5 or refresh the page
4. Press "quote" on the roll
5. Click in the box that has all of the Roll posts (the lower box), hit CTRL-A to select all and Press CTRL-X to CUT, not copy-if you copy, then you'll double post roll.
6. Click to the reply window and press CTRL+V to paste it in. Then write in your name, day and your promise
7. Press submit-done.
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Nope I quit on the 14, but been reading people's stories for weeks, just figure I would let you know that this site really helped push me to quit. So I am past my 72 hour mark with no nicotine, just the fake pouches. I really don't have any crazy urges at all.
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Nope I quit on the 14, but been reading people's stories for weeks, just figure I would let you know that this site really helped push me to quit. So I am past my 72 hour mark with no nicotine, just the fake pouches. I really don't have any crazy urges at all.
What Idaho Spuds is talking about is your HOF Quit Group will be January because your quit day is between 9/24 and 10/24. If you maintain your quit you will achieve Hall of Fame status sometime in January. If you want to know the exact day, just extrapolate 100 days from your quit date. Remember you have to post roll call daily, be totally nic free and be honest to you and your group otherwise it's hell to pay.
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Ok, this is the start of day one. I decided to quit because of dental issues and insurance reasons. I'm 24 and started dipping when i was 19. Will it be any easier for me because I've only dipped for 5 years?
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Ok, this is the start of day one. I decided to quit because of dental issues and insurance reasons. I'm 24 and started dipping when i was 19. Will it be any easier for me because I've only dipped for 5 years?
Well I'll tell you this. I started chewing at 18 and chewed for 5 years (Exactly 5). I'm 23 years old now and I quit 6 days ago. Who cares if it is "easier". Care that you had the foresight to cut this shit early. I'm 23 and apparently I need to go see an oral surgeon next week. Wake the fuck up and stop chewing. For me the cravings weren't bad day one, they were bad days 2-4 around mid day and then once again at 8 PM. Buy the fake chew and look forward to it arriving in the mail after you've already started the quit. I'm on day 6 and the cravings that I have now actually make me laugh because of how easy they are to manage.
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To the new quitters that are or will be slipping back into the Nic Bitch's clutches, think about how you're going to feel after you've caved. Think of caving like having an extramarital affair with a two bit whore. True it may feel good...hell it may feel fucking awesome but when the novelty wears off the life altering guilt steps in. All those good feelings are gone and have been replaced with the knowledge that YOU just pissed away all that was good in your life for a cheap roll in the hay with the Nic Bitch.
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To the new quitters that are or will be slipping back into the Nic Bitch's clutches, think about how you're going to feel after you've caved. Think of caving like having an extramarital affair with a two bit whore. True it may feel good...hell it may feel fucking awesome but when the novelty wears off the life altering guilt steps in. All those good feelings are gone and have been replaced with the knowledge that YOU just pissed away all that was good in your life for a cheap roll in the hay with the Nic Bitch.
You will NEVER regret Quitting. You will ALWAYS regret caving.
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To the new quitters that are or will be slipping back into the Nic Bitch's clutches, think about how you're going to feel after you've caved. Think of caving like having an extramarital affair with a two bit whore. True it may feel good...hell it may feel fucking awesome but when the novelty wears off the life altering guilt steps in. All those good feelings are gone and have been replaced with the knowledge that YOU just pissed away all that was good in your life for a cheap roll in the hay with the Nic Bitch.
You will NEVER regret Quitting. You will ALWAYS regret caving.
Sound Wisdom!
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To the new quitters that are or will be slipping back into the Nic Bitch's clutches, think about how you're going to feel after you've caved. Think of caving like having an extramarital affair with a two bit whore. True it may feel good...hell it may feel fucking awesome but when the novelty wears off the life altering guilt steps in. All those good feelings are gone and have been replaced with the knowledge that YOU just pissed away all that was good in your life for a cheap roll in the hay with the Nic Bitch.
You will NEVER regret Quitting. You will ALWAYS regret caving.
Sound Wisdom!
Quitting is living
dipping is dying.
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I am on Day 3 today and so far it has not been that bad, been doing the smokey mountain stuff, I like winter green pouches. In the military so chewing is ok in my shop and it got out of control when I dipped 3 cans a day going on 9 years. So far the only thing it affects is my sleep I stay up way later and wake up almost every hour for no reason. I went into the gas station today and thought hmm.. I should buy a can....then when I got to the front of the line, I thought ehh better not. I have always worked out hard every day almost so I think all that sweating has helped. I just want to throw a dip in and then I put in one of the fake pouches and it does the trick. Great website been coming here for weeks, setting a time and day to quit.
Hey Jerod,
I'm on day 3 as well. Pretty cool...I haven't slept in two days, my stomach hurts and my skin feels like it itches. Hey, but I'm not dipping and finally feeling good about myself!
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23 year user and I'm on day 3. Days 1 and 2 weren't too bad but today has been hard. I've been extremely irritable and pissed off all day! Still staying strong though. I kjow it's part of the process. Thx for all the posts/info I've read on this site. It's helped a lot!
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23 year user and I'm on day 3. Days 1 and 2 weren't too bad but today has been hard. I've been extremely irritable and pissed off all day! Still staying strong though. I kjow it's part of the process. Thx for all the posts/info I've read on this site. It's helped a lot!
3-4 are tough, get some fake chew, gum, seeds and candy. Flush out the poison with water.
Learn how to post roll:
topic/10564902/375/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/10564902/375/)
Post an introduction:
forum/55574/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/55574/)
and build a network of support you will need it to beat a 23 year addiction
Message me for my cell,
Charles
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I'm about to hit my 5 week anniversary of my last dip. After about 23 years of dipping daily. I read this site regularly but don't post roll.You guys have been a big help even if I just lurk. My biggest issue is the anxiety. My chest feel tight and I feel like I'm in a mild panic many times during the day. The evening is the worst. Anyone else go through this even after a month of quitting?
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I'm about to hit my 5 week anniversary of my last dip. After about 23 years of dipping daily. I read this site regularly but don't post roll.You guys have been a big help even if I just lurk. My biggest issue is the anxiety. My chest feel tight and I feel like I'm in a mild panic many times during the day. The evening is the worst. Anyone else go through this even after a month of quitting?
5 weeks is VERY BADASS! No question about that! The anxiety is pretty normal... You'll talk to most quitters and find out we've all dealt with it at some level and for varying lengths of time. Man... Do yourself a favor and stop lurking here. Jump in and join us! There's a wealth of resources you don't get to take advantage of staying on the fringes. Being an active part of this community WILL help with some of that anxiety... Just knowing you're not alone and being part of a group you can open up to about it is HUGE! C'mon in man... Real freedom awaits.
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Just posted roll. This is day 2. Been on the stuff for 11 years now and after several failed attempts, it always amazes me how it starts to creep into your brain, "How can you watch the Bronco's Game tonight without a dip?" "How are you going to get through a movie at the theater this weekend without one?". Of course the answer is that tons of people can get through those things without it. The hardest part for me is not looking ahead to every event I have coming that would give me an opportunity to say, I just can't do this without it.
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Just posted roll. This is day 2. Been on the stuff for 11 years now and after several failed attempts, it always amazes me how it starts to creep into your brain, "How can you watch the Bronco's Game tonight without a dip?" "How are you going to get through a movie at the theater this weekend without one?". Of course the answer is that tons of people can get through those things without it. The hardest part for me is not looking ahead to every event I have coming that would give me an opportunity to say, I just can't do this without it.
Reagan,
Congrats on a great decision you won't regret. You already did the most important thing which is post roll. Do this first thing every day.
I was EXACTLY the same way as you with the "looking ahead" and so was 99% on the people on here. I associated everything with dip - so my excuse was I can't quit during football season or the summer when I'll be golfing, or my busy time at work, etc etc. I could go on and on and on. It's all addict speak. Fact is you can do those things w/o dip.
Get in deep on this site and read as much as you can. You will find most stories are exactly the same as yours. One of my favorite sayings is that "it's a miracle - the lawnmower started and I mowed the lawn without a dip in!"
You can do this.
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Just posted roll. This is day 2. Been on the stuff for 11 years now and after several failed attempts, it always amazes me how it starts to creep into your brain, "How can you watch the Bronco's Game tonight without a dip?" "How are you going to get through a movie at the theater this weekend without one?". Of course the answer is that tons of people can get through those things without it. The hardest part for me is not looking ahead to every event I have coming that would give me an opportunity to say, I just can't do this without it.
Reagan,
Congrats on a great decision you won't regret. You already did the most important thing which is post roll. Do this first thing every day.
I was EXACTLY the same way as you with the "looking ahead" and so was 99% on the people on here. I associated everything with dip - so my excuse was I can't quit during football season or the summer when I'll be golfing, or my busy time at work, etc etc. I could go on and on and on. It's all addict speak. Fact is you can do those things w/o dip.
Get in deep on this site and read as much as you can. You will find most stories are exactly the same as yours. One of my favorite sayings is that "it's a miracle - the lawnmower started and I mowed the lawn without a dip in!"
You can do this.
Sent you a PM with some tips! Congrats.
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Day 2 for me, not to rough, but alot of stress at work so I just left early. I posted roll today and so far so good.
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Day 2 for me, not to rough, but alot of stress at work so I just left early. I posted roll today and so far so good.
Awesome 208! After 3 days, the poison has left your body. You're almost there, mon. You guys should start an intro and write down what freedom feels like each day after posting roll. After we post roll, nicotine is no longer relevant, no matter what. We're quit. It only sucks this sucky once when you quit each day. In fact, today put me over the $6,000 mark in savings. That doesn't suck.
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When you post roll on any of the quit groups please do everyone a favor and scroll back up and then down to see if there were any posts that came in a millisecond before or after your post went up. When that happens someone gets bumped and when they get bumped they may not be counted on roll call for that day. I post early in the morning around 0400 because that is when I used to throw a fat one in my lip and because there are very few posters awake at that hour. Yes staying on KTC for a few extra minutes means your post and ghost status may be positively affected but you might like hanging around a few more minutes to offer support to anyone in need.
Just my $0.02, you may carry on.
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I started dipping about 15 yrs ago, today is day 19 quit. I'll keep reading and thank you for this site!
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I made my mind up, I've been chewing for 23yrs.. I'm at 5 cans a day , I know this will be the hardest thing yet, thelast 18 months I've lost 98lbs and I figured i conquered that I'm really for this challenge. I found this site and joined thankful ill have help from fellow quitters. My quit date is 10/26/14. Which is tomorrow. Wish me luck. .
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I made my mind up, I've been chewing for 23yrs.. I'm at 5 cans a day , I know this will be the hardest thing yet, thelast 18 months I've lost 98lbs and I figured i conquered that I'm really for this challenge. I found this site and joined thankful ill have help from fellow quitters. My quit date is 10/26/14. Which is tomorrow. Wish me luck. .
Why tomorrow? What's keeping you from taking your life back now?
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I made my mind up, I've been chewing for 23yrs.. I'm at 5 cans a day , I know this will be the hardest thing yet, thelast 18 months I've lost 98lbs and I figured i conquered that I'm really for this challenge. I found this site and joined thankful ill have help from fellow quitters. My quit date is 10/26/14. Which is tomorrow. Wish me luck. .
I have 7 days today. I would wish you luck but luck really has nothing to do with it. It's more like a mathematical equation. If you follow the formula outlined by the veterans of this site you will post roll every day, get involved in discussions like I'm doing right now and PM people in your quit group. Something happens when you do that. It gets you out of your own selfish character and gets you involved with a group of people who have the same addiction as you.
When I chewed (dipped, whatever) my Copenhagen Long Cut I'd go to the store and ask for it. Then I'd get pissed off at the clerk because they could never find it. I'd say "NO! Not that one! The fucking one at the top and three to the right. How long have you worked here!".
Then I'd go home, wait for my wife and kids to go to bed and then I'd be all giddy to put a dip in and read my book. Damn that is pathetic. But, it's what I did. Of course that's what I did...I was addicted to it.
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http://m.espn.go.com/wireless/story?storyId=11754095 (http://m.espn.go.com/wireless/story?storyId=11754095)
Pretty interesting read.
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Well today is the day.... wish me luck 12hrs nasty free
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Well today is the day.... wish me luck 12hrs nasty free
Luck is not needed, nor will it make your quit a success....Determination, intestinal fortitude, and the methods employed on this site and these quitters will make you successful in quitting...Welcome to the site. Read. Post roll. Get involved. Ask for help when needed.
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Well today is the day.... wish me luck 12hrs nasty free
Luck is not needed, nor will it make your quit a success....Determination, intestinal fortitude, and the methods employed on this site and these quitters will make you successful in quitting...Welcome to the site. Read. Post roll. Get involved. Ask for help when needed.
Fuckin A!
Luck don't factor into success. Hard work does. Determination. Integrity. Accountability. These are the things you will use to be successful. Not luck
Reach out friend. We are here to help YOU!
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Well today is the day.... wish me luck 12hrs nasty free
Luck is not needed, nor will it make your quit a success....Determination, intestinal fortitude, and the methods employed on this site and these quitters will make you successful in quitting...Welcome to the site. Read. Post roll. Get involved. Ask for help when needed.
Fuckin A!
Luck don't factor into success. Hard work does. Determination. Integrity. Accountability. These are the things you will use to be successful. Not luck
Reach out friend. We are here to help YOU!
^^^
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Hello to all. I am new here today but want to ask if anyone has a recipe for home made herbal chew. I just quit tobacco today and definitely need some herbal chew to get me through this. I am chewing smokey mountain straight and trying the classic as well but, classic seems to burn my gums. There's got to be some people out there, making their own and I would love to hear some suggestions from them. Not sure exactly where to post this question but, am trying it here.
Will I be able to follow this post periodically? Help me out here moderators 'help'
'bang head'
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Hello to all. I am new here today but want to ask if anyone has a recipe for home made herbal chew. I just quit tobacco today and definitely need some herbal chew to get me through this. I am chewing smokey mountain straight and trying the classic as well but, classic seems to burn my gums. There's got to be some people out there, making their own and I would love to hear some suggestions from them. Not sure exactly where to post this question but, am trying it here.
Will I be able to follow this post periodically? Help me out here moderators 'help'
'bang head'
Some of the guys in my group, Oct 14 made some homemade stuff. I will get someone to reach out to you.
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*poof*
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Hello to all. I am new here today but want to ask if anyone has a recipe for home made herbal chew. I just quit tobacco today and definitely need some herbal chew to get me through this. I am chewing smokey mountain straight and trying the classic as well but, classic seems to burn my gums. There's got to be some people out there, making their own and I would love to hear some suggestions from them. Not sure exactly where to post this question but, am trying it here.
Will I be able to follow this post periodically? Help me out here moderators 'help'
'bang head'
Some of the guys in my group, Oct 14 made some homemade stuff. I will get someone to reach out to you.
Also if you haven't posted roll, which I'm sure you haven't based on it saying 1 post.
Please go here topic/1003928/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1003928/) and read that.
Also depending on your quit day, the last day you took a dip, you'd be put in a quit group here.
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Hello to all. I am new here today but want to ask if anyone has a recipe for home made herbal chew. I just quit tobacco today and definitely need some herbal chew to get me through this. I am chewing smokey mountain straight and trying the classic as well but, classic seems to burn my gums. There's got to be some people out there, making their own and I would love to hear some suggestions from them. Not sure exactly where to post this question but, am trying it here.
Will I be able to follow this post periodically? Help me out here moderators 'help'
'bang head'
Some of the guys in my group, Oct 14 made some homemade stuff. I will get someone to reach out to you.
Sounds good rainfire and thanks!
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Hello to all. I am new here today but want to ask if anyone has a recipe for home made herbal chew. I just quit tobacco today and definitely need some herbal chew to get me through this. I am chewing smokey mountain straight and trying the classic as well but, classic seems to burn my gums. There's got to be some people out there, making their own and I would love to hear some suggestions from them. Not sure exactly where to post this question but, am trying it here.
Will I be able to follow this post periodically? Help me out here moderators 'help'
'bang head'
Some of the guys in my group, Oct 14 made some homemade stuff. I will get someone to reach out to you.
Sounds good rainfire and thanks!
Hey man. Looks like you're all hooked up, but I noticed that you haven't mentioned anything about posting roll. That's really what this site is about.
Quitting sucks initially, and we have each other's backs in this. We got yours too if you decide to walk with us.
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Hello to all. I am new here today but want to ask if anyone has a recipe for home made herbal chew. I just quit tobacco today and definitely need some herbal chew to get me through this. I am chewing smokey mountain straight and trying the classic as well but, classic seems to burn my gums. There's got to be some people out there, making their own and I would love to hear some suggestions from them. Not sure exactly where to post this question but, am trying it here.
Will I be able to follow this post periodically? Help me out here moderators 'help'
'bang head'
Some of the guys in my group, Oct 14 made some homemade stuff. I will get someone to reach out to you.
Sounds good rainfire and thanks!
Hey man. Looks like you're all hooked up, but I noticed that you haven't mentioned anything about posting roll. That's really what this site is about.
Quitting sucks initially, and we have each other's backs in this. We got yours too if you decide to walk with us.
I already have decided to "walk with you" but, I have not completely quit yet. I "cheated" a couple of times , like this morning. I totally intend to completely quit but, not until I have an herbal chew for a crutch. I thought I had that but, the stuff I'm using is not working out because it is burning my gums. Once I have completely quit, I WILL post roll. I just do not intend to lie and cheat, because that would only defeat the purpose. Am I right? Thanks for all your support in this....I must also admit that I'm not 100% accustomed to your site and how it all works yet either. All I know for sure right now, is that I do intend to quit tobacco 100% and real soon, and that I also intend to post roll, once I do. All comments and suggestions are very much welcomed by me too! 'bang head'
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Hello to all. I am new here today but want to ask if anyone has a recipe for home made herbal chew. I just quit tobacco today and definitely need some herbal chew to get me through this. I am chewing smokey mountain straight and trying the classic as well but, classic seems to burn my gums. There's got to be some people out there, making their own and I would love to hear some suggestions from them. Not sure exactly where to post this question but, am trying it here.
Will I be able to follow this post periodically? Help me out here moderators 'help'
'bang head'
Some of the guys in my group, Oct 14 made some homemade stuff. I will get someone to reach out to you.
Sounds good rainfire and thanks!
Hey man. Looks like you're all hooked up, but I noticed that you haven't mentioned anything about posting roll. That's really what this site is about.
Quitting sucks initially, and we have each other's backs in this. We got yours too if you decide to walk with us.
I already have decided to "walk with you" but, I have not completely quit yet. I "cheated" a couple of times , like this morning. I totally intend to completely quit but, not until I have an herbal chew for a crutch. I thought I had that but, the stuff I'm using is not working out because it is burning my gums. Once I have completely quit, I WILL post roll. I just do not intend to lie and cheat, because that would only defeat the purpose. Am I right? Thanks for all your support in this....I must also admit that I'm not 100% accustomed to your site and how it all works yet either. All I know for sure right now, is that I do intend to quit tobacco 100% and real soon, and that I also intend to post roll, once I do. All comments and suggestions are very much welcomed by me too! 'bang head'
"Intend" all you want somewhere else... That's not how we do it here.
Bro... Every tomorrow breeds another tomorrow. As a nicotine addict you can't afford that mind set. Be truly badass and jump in right now. Cold turkey... Right now. You'll have all the support you'll ever need right here. Stop being owned and quit now...
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Hello to all. I am new here today but want to ask if anyone has a recipe for home made herbal chew. I just quit tobacco today and definitely need some herbal chew to get me through this. I am chewing smokey mountain straight and trying the classic as well but, classic seems to burn my gums. There's got to be some people out there, making their own and I would love to hear some suggestions from them. Not sure exactly where to post this question but, am trying it here.
Will I be able to follow this post periodically? Help me out here moderators 'help'
'bang head'
Some of the guys in my group, Oct 14 made some homemade stuff. I will get someone to reach out to you.
Sounds good rainfire and thanks!
Hey man. Looks like you're all hooked up, but I noticed that you haven't mentioned anything about posting roll. That's really what this site is about.
Quitting sucks initially, and we have each other's backs in this. We got yours too if you decide to walk with us.
I already have decided to "walk with you" but, I have not completely quit yet. I "cheated" a couple of times , like this morning. I totally intend to completely quit but, not until I have an herbal chew for a crutch. I thought I had that but, the stuff I'm using is not working out because it is burning my gums. Once I have completely quit, I WILL post roll. I just do not intend to lie and cheat, because that would only defeat the purpose. Am I right? Thanks for all your support in this....I must also admit that I'm not 100% accustomed to your site and how it all works yet either. All I know for sure right now, is that I do intend to quit tobacco 100% and real soon, and that I also intend to post roll, once I do. All comments and suggestions are very much welcomed by me too! 'bang head'
"Intend" all you want somewhere else... That's not how we do it here.
Bro... Every tomorrow breeds another tomorrow. As a nicotine addict you can't afford that mind set. Be truly badass and jump in right now. Cold turkey... Right now. You'll have all the support you'll ever need right here. Stop being owned and quit now...
If your serious, here is my advise. Dump all of your chew, and post roll NOW! If you don't you likely won't quit. Why do I say that? I did it for 40 years. You can't bullshit any of us we know all of the moves that lead to continued failure. Don't delay that next dip may be the one that starts the cancerous growth.
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Hello to all. I am new here today but want to ask if anyone has a recipe for home made herbal chew. I just quit tobacco today and definitely need some herbal chew to get me through this. I am chewing smokey mountain straight and trying the classic as well but, classic seems to burn my gums. There's got to be some people out there, making their own and I would love to hear some suggestions from them. Not sure exactly where to post this question but, am trying it here.
Will I be able to follow this post periodically? Help me out here moderators 'help'
'bang head'
Some of the guys in my group, Oct 14 made some homemade stuff. I will get someone to reach out to you.
Sounds good rainfire and thanks!
Hey man. Looks like you're all hooked up, but I noticed that you haven't mentioned anything about posting roll. That's really what this site is about.
Quitting sucks initially, and we have each other's backs in this. We got yours too if you decide to walk with us.
I already have decided to "walk with you" but, I have not completely quit yet. I "cheated" a couple of times , like this morning. I totally intend to completely quit but, not until I have an herbal chew for a crutch. I thought I had that but, the stuff I'm using is not working out because it is burning my gums. Once I have completely quit, I WILL post roll. I just do not intend to lie and cheat, because that would only defeat the purpose. Am I right? Thanks for all your support in this....I must also admit that I'm not 100% accustomed to your site and how it all works yet either. All I know for sure right now, is that I do intend to quit tobacco 100% and real soon, and that I also intend to post roll, once I do. All comments and suggestions are very much welcomed by me too! 'bang head'
"Intend" all you want somewhere else... That's not how we do it here.
Bro... Every tomorrow breeds another tomorrow. As a nicotine addict you can't afford that mind set. Be truly badass and jump in right now. Cold turkey... Right now. You'll have all the support you'll ever need right here. Stop being owned and quit now...
If your serious, here is my advise. Dump all of your chew, and post roll NOW! If you don't you likely won't quit. Why do I say that? I did it for 40 years. You can't bullshit any of us we know all of the moves that lead to continued failure. Don't delay that next dip may be the one that starts the cancerous growth.
You have herbal chew smokey mt, but the nicotine in chewing tobacco is convincing you it is not close enough to the 'real' thing.
There is nothing 100% the same, but finding something close and use it to get you over a crave.
And I bet the burn of the fake chew is better than smelling the radiation burn the cancer out of your mouth.
http://m.espn.go.com/wireless/story?storyId=11754095 (http://m.espn.go.com/wireless/story?storyId=11754095)
For years the nicotine in chew convinced me, quit after this last chew, or after this last can, or... there is always an excuse.
Everyone on this site wishes they would have quit earlier but there is nothing better than right now!
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Hello to all. I am new here today but want to ask if anyone has a recipe for home made herbal chew. I just quit tobacco today and definitely need some herbal chew to get me through this. I am chewing smokey mountain straight and trying the classic as well but, classic seems to burn my gums. There's got to be some people out there, making their own and I would love to hear some suggestions from them. Not sure exactly where to post this question but, am trying it here.
Will I be able to follow this post periodically? Help me out here moderators 'help'
'bang head'
Some of the guys in my group, Oct 14 made some homemade stuff. I will get someone to reach out to you.
Sounds good rainfire and thanks!
Hey man. Looks like you're all hooked up, but I noticed that you haven't mentioned anything about posting roll. That's really what this site is about.
Quitting sucks initially, and we have each other's backs in this. We got yours too if you decide to walk with us.
I already have decided to "walk with you" but, I have not completely quit yet. I "cheated" a couple of times , like this morning. I totally intend to completely quit but, not until I have an herbal chew for a crutch. I thought I had that but, the stuff I'm using is not working out because it is burning my gums. Once I have completely quit, I WILL post roll. I just do not intend to lie and cheat, because that would only defeat the purpose. Am I right? Thanks for all your support in this....I must also admit that I'm not 100% accustomed to your site and how it all works yet either. All I know for sure right now, is that I do intend to quit tobacco 100% and real soon, and that I also intend to post roll, once I do. All comments and suggestions are very much welcomed by me too! 'bang head'
Not to beat a dead horse, but I have to echo what others are saying here. I'm still fairly new in my quit (56 days strong, though!), and if there's one thing that never worked for me it was playing the "I'll quit when..." game. There is no such thing as a better time to quit than right fucking now. I know because I tried all the different tricks for YEARS, along with so many other guys on this site. It is all horse shit. Sack up, dump that crap down the shitter where it belongs, post roll and start quitting. Now.
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I understand what you all are saying..... I've been chewing more than forty yrs. myself. I have also quit a few times in my life and after 6 months or so, of nawing on hard candies and gum and whatever else I could get into my mouth, and feeling sick from all the damn garbage I ate, I would eventually cave in and go back to chewing. That's NOT the plan this time. I am quitting for good and in order to do that, I am getting a game plan going. I will have some sort of tobacco substitute for backup, BEFORE I quit. PERIOD! Call it whatever you want. Call me a sissy, what the fuckever.
And I will NOT post roll, until I have completely quit. I can honestly say that I haven't had a chew of tobacco since 6 AM this morning and I don't plan on anymore for the rest of the day either but, I aint posting roll, till I know for certain that I am quitting. Like it or Lump it. That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
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I understand what you all are saying..... I've been chewing more than forty yrs. myself. I have also quit a few times in my life and after 6 months or so, of nawing on hard candies and gum and whatever else I could get into my mouth, and feeling sick from all the damn garbage I ate, I would eventually cave in and go back to chewing. That's NOT the plan this time. I am quitting for good and in order to do that, I am getting a game plan going. I will have some sort of tobacco substitute for backup, BEFORE I quit. PERIOD! Call it whatever you want. Call me a sissy, what the fuckever.
And I will NOT post roll, until I have completely quit. I can honestly say that I haven't had a chew of tobacco since 6 AM this morning and I don't plan on anymore for the rest of the day either but, I aint posting roll, till I know for certain that I am quitting. Like it or Lump it. That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
It's not a contest of who has dipped the longest. I was rocking a nice 20 year habit before I found this site. If you've been dipping for 40 years, you sure as hell know everything you've tried to do in the past doesn't work. Perhaps it's possible some of the people on this site know more about quitting than you do? I know my longest quit before I found this site was about 3 days. I tried planning, and setting dates, and all that other shit. None of it worked. What has worked for me is posting roll every day, and promising my friends on this site that I won't succumb to the Nic Bitch today.
You'll find this to be the most welcoming, friendly community of people anywhere (I have), but no one has any sympathy for doing it any other way than cold turkey, right now.
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I understand what you all are saying..... I've been chewing more than forty yrs. myself. I have also quit a few times in my life and after 6 months or so, of nawing on hard candies and gum and whatever else I could get into my mouth, and feeling sick from all the damn garbage I ate, I would eventually cave in and go back to chewing. That's NOT the plan this time. I am quitting for good and in order to do that, I am getting a game plan going. I will have some sort of tobacco substitute for backup, BEFORE I quit. PERIOD! Call it whatever you want. Call me a sissy, what the fuckever.
And I will NOT post roll, until I have completely quit. I can honestly say that I haven't had a chew of tobacco since 6 AM this morning and I don't plan on anymore for the rest of the day either but, I aint posting roll, till I know for certain that I am quitting. Like it or Lump it. That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
1. You never quit before, you just took a break
2. You are not a special butterfly, we are all scared and nervous about quitting our addiction of 15, 20, 30, 40 years
3. Why quit today when you can quit tomorrow?
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And I will NOT post roll, until I have completely quit. I can honestly say that I haven't had a chew of tobacco since 6 AM this morning and I don't plan on anymore for the rest of the day either but, I aint posting roll, till I know for certain that I am quitting.
This is crap.
You know how you know "for certain" that you've quit!?
You man up, MAKE that decision, and own it. Period.
You're pre-waffling to conditions that haven't even presented themselves yet. You're leaving the door open to cave... Stop! You'll NEVER meet all the perfect conditions your brilliant addict brain can come up with.
Right. Now.
That's the perfect everything you need to know.
Right.
Now.
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I aint here for any fucking contests and I'm definitely not here for your fucking sympathy. Where the hell do you come up with that Bullshit? 'Finger'
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I aint here for any fucking contests and I'm definitely not here for your fucking sympathy. Where the hell do you come up with that Bullshit? 'Finger'
Everyone here just wants you to quit. That is what is most important here!
After you have quit and joined our ranks, the next guy will come through and say; he is not ready, I will quit on my birthday, after this can...
I look forward to your response to that newbie. Quit with us and don't wait.
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Appears live chat is down. Any timeframe. This tool's a lifeline for early quits.
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Appears live chat is down. Any timeframe. This tool's a lifeline for early quits.
Seems to be working now.
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Appears live chat is down. Any timeframe. This tool's a lifeline for early quits.
Seems to be working now.
Nevermind...it's not working again.
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Appears live chat is down. Any timeframe. This tool's a lifeline for early quits.
Seems to be working now.
Nevermind...it's not working again.
Must be me. I'm not getting in.
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I aint here for any fucking contests and I'm definitely not here for your fucking sympathy. Where the hell do you come up with that Bullshit? 'Finger'
Everyone here just wants you to quit. That is what is most important here!
After you have quit and joined our ranks, the next guy will come through and say; he is not ready, I will quit on my birthday, after this can...
I look forward to your response to that newbie. Quit with us and don't wait.
Not sure wtf kind of response you're anticipating but, how the hell do you post roll
? I clicked on this and that but I can't make heads or tails of that shit. Someone wanna help me out with that? I haven't chewed in over 20 hours and having some major withdrawals. I don't remember this feeling at all from the last time I quit. I wake up every half-hour and it's like my mouth is screaming for something that aint there. Mouth is kinda sore too, along with my throat. Then, I fall back asleep for another half-hour and it's the same thing again. Very very strange.
Anyhow, I'm not waiting anymore......I'm just in need of some assistance in posting roll. I've gone to live chat a dozen times but, no one ever is in there to help either. 'help'
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Appears live chat is down. Any timeframe. This tool's a lifeline for early quits.
Seems to be working now.
Nevermind...it's not working again.
Must be me. I'm not getting in.
I've re-booted the chat server. Let us know if it continues to be an issue.
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I aint here for any fucking contests and I'm definitely not here for your fucking sympathy. Where the hell do you come up with that Bullshit? 'Finger'
Everyone here just wants you to quit. That is what is most important here!
After you have quit and joined our ranks, the next guy will come through and say; he is not ready, I will quit on my birthday, after this can...
I look forward to your response to that newbie. Quit with us and don't wait.
Not sure wtf kind of response you're anticipating but, how the hell do you post roll
? I clicked on this and that but I can't make heads or tails of that shit. Someone wanna help me out with that? I haven't chewed in over 20 hours and having some major withdrawals. I don't remember this feeling at all from the last time I quit. I wake up every half-hour and it's like my mouth is screaming for something that aint there. Mouth is kinda sore too, along with my throat. Then, I fall back asleep for another half-hour and it's the same thing again. Very very strange.
Anyhow, I'm not waiting anymore......I'm just in need of some assistance in posting roll. I've gone to live chat a dozen times but, no one ever is in there to help either. 'help'
Good for you, dude. I will quit with you today! Stay strong and don't give in to those craves. That is The Bitch in your ear trying to get you back on her tit.
To post roll, go to your month (February I believe) and hit the quote button under someone who has posted roll.
From there, go to the "quoting" box and put your cursor anywhere in it. Hit Control A, then hit Control X, then go to the the text box and hit Control V. Now you just add your name and your day 1 to the quitters list. Easy!
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I aint here for any fucking contests and I'm definitely not here for your fucking sympathy. Where the hell do you come up with that Bullshit? 'Finger'
Everyone here just wants you to quit. That is what is most important here!
After you have quit and joined our ranks, the next guy will come through and say; he is not ready, I will quit on my birthday, after this can...
I look forward to your response to that newbie. Quit with us and don't wait.
Not sure wtf kind of response you're anticipating but, how the hell do you post roll
? I clicked on this and that but I can't make heads or tails of that shit. Someone wanna help me out with that? I haven't chewed in over 20 hours and having some major withdrawals. I don't remember this feeling at all from the last time I quit. I wake up every half-hour and it's like my mouth is screaming for something that aint there. Mouth is kinda sore too, along with my throat. Then, I fall back asleep for another half-hour and it's the same thing again. Very very strange.
Anyhow, I'm not waiting anymore......I'm just in need of some assistance in posting roll. I've gone to live chat a dozen times but, no one ever is in there to help either. 'help'
Good for you, dude. I will quit with you today! Stay strong and don't give in to those craves. That is The Bitch in your ear trying to get you back on her tit.
To post roll, go to your month (February I believe) and hit the quote button under someone who has posted roll.
From there, go to the "quoting" box and put your cursor anywhere in it. Hit Control A, then hit Control X, then go to the the text box and hit Control V. Now you just add your name and your day 1 to the quitters list. Easy!
I am glad you are on board! You body doesn't know what to do without the poison. The first 0-5 days will be very hard, but you can do it.
Try these instructions for: PC How to post roll
1. Login, go to your quit page, think about what you are going to post.
2. Find the most recent post
3. hit F5 or refresh the page
4. Press "quote" on the roll
5. Click in the box that has all of the Roll posts (the lower box), hit CTRL-A to select all and Press CTRL-X to CUT, not copy-if you copy, then you'll double post roll.
6. Click to the reply window and press CTRL+V to paste it in. Then write in your name, day and your promise
7. Press submit-done.
More instructions for Ipad, etc.
topic/1003072/1/#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1003072/1/#new)
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I understand what you all are saying..... I've been chewing more than forty yrs. myself. I have also quit a few times in my life and after 6 months or so, of nawing on hard candies and gum and whatever else I could get into my mouth, and feeling sick from all the damn garbage I ate, I would eventually cave in and go back to chewing. That's NOT the plan this time. I am quitting for good and in order to do that, I am getting a game plan going. I will have some sort of tobacco substitute for backup, BEFORE I quit. PERIOD! Call it whatever you want. Call me a sissy, what the fuckever.
And I will NOT post roll, until I have completely quit. I can honestly say that I haven't had a chew of tobacco since 6 AM this morning and I don't plan on anymore for the rest of the day either but, I aint posting roll, till I know for certain that I am quitting. Like it or Lump it. That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
It's not a contest of who has dipped the longest. I was rocking a nice 20 year habit before I found this site. If you've been dipping for 40 years, you sure as hell know everything you've tried to do in the past doesn't work. Perhaps it's possible some of the people on this site know more about quitting than you do? I know my longest quit before I found this site was about 3 days. I tried planning, and setting dates, and all that other shit. None of it worked. What has worked for me is posting roll every day, and promising my friends on this site that I won't succumb to the Nic Bitch today.
You'll find this to be the most welcoming, friendly community of people anywhere (I have), but no one has any sympathy for doing it any other way than cold turkey, right now.
is this for real? if it is you've got to be kidding me. if your not using why not post up and just make it one day? you can do anything for one day right? or is it harder for you than everybody else on this site?
p.s. you have never QUIT before, you've only stopped. this is where you pull your peaches out of that 'murse' you have and sack the fuck up and save your life. if you don't want to do that then we cant help you.
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I understand what you all are saying..... I've been chewing more than forty yrs. myself. I have also quit a few times in my life and after 6 months or so, of nawing on hard candies and gum and whatever else I could get into my mouth, and feeling sick from all the damn garbage I ate, I would eventually cave in and go back to chewing. That's NOT the plan this time. I am quitting for good and in order to do that, I am getting a game plan going. I will have some sort of tobacco substitute for backup, BEFORE I quit. PERIOD! Call it whatever you want. Call me a sissy, what the fuckever.
And I will NOT post roll, until I have completely quit. I can honestly say that I haven't had a chew of tobacco since 6 AM this morning and I don't plan on anymore for the rest of the day either but, I aint posting roll, till I know for certain that I am quitting. Like it or Lump it. That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
It's not a contest of who has dipped the longest. I was rocking a nice 20 year habit before I found this site. If you've been dipping for 40 years, you sure as hell know everything you've tried to do in the past doesn't work. Perhaps it's possible some of the people on this site know more about quitting than you do? I know my longest quit before I found this site was about 3 days. I tried planning, and setting dates, and all that other shit. None of it worked. What has worked for me is posting roll every day, and promising my friends on this site that I won't succumb to the Nic Bitch today.
You'll find this to be the most welcoming, friendly community of people anywhere (I have), but no one has any sympathy for doing it any other way than cold turkey, right now.
is this for real? if it is you've got to be kidding me. if your not using why not post up and just make it one day? you can do anything for one day right? or is it harder for you than everybody else on this site?
p.s. you have never QUIT before, you've only stopped. this is where you pull your peaches out of that 'murse' you have and sack the fuck up and save your life. if you don't want to do that then we cant help you.
Nobody ever asked for your help Jeepman and I'm not asking you now. So stay the fuck out of it. You don't know me, you don't know anything about me and you're damn sure not gonna tell me what I have and have not done in this world. Get a fucking life and stay the fuck out of mine!
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I understand what you all are saying..... I've been chewing more than forty yrs. myself. I have also quit a few times in my life and after 6 months or so, of nawing on hard candies and gum and whatever else I could get into my mouth, and feeling sick from all the damn garbage I ate, I would eventually cave in and go back to chewing. That's NOT the plan this time. I am quitting for good and in order to do that, I am getting a game plan going. I will have some sort of tobacco substitute for backup, BEFORE I quit. PERIOD! Call it whatever you want. Call me a sissy, what the fuckever.
And I will NOT post roll, until I have completely quit. I can honestly say that I haven't had a chew of tobacco since 6 AM this morning and I don't plan on anymore for the rest of the day either but, I aint posting roll, till I know for certain that I am quitting. Like it or Lump it. That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
It's not a contest of who has dipped the longest. I was rocking a nice 20 year habit before I found this site. If you've been dipping for 40 years, you sure as hell know everything you've tried to do in the past doesn't work. Perhaps it's possible some of the people on this site know more about quitting than you do? I know my longest quit before I found this site was about 3 days. I tried planning, and setting dates, and all that other shit. None of it worked. What has worked for me is posting roll every day, and promising my friends on this site that I won't succumb to the Nic Bitch today.
You'll find this to be the most welcoming, friendly community of people anywhere (I have), but no one has any sympathy for doing it any other way than cold turkey, right now.
is this for real? if it is you've got to be kidding me. if your not using why not post up and just make it one day? you can do anything for one day right? or is it harder for you than everybody else on this site?
p.s. you have never QUIT before, you've only stopped. this is where you pull your peaches out of that 'murse' you have and sack the fuck up and save your life. if you don't want to do that then we cant help you.
Nobody ever asked for your help Jeepman and I'm not asking you now. So stay the fuck out of it. You don't know me, you don't know anything about me and you're damn sure not gonna tell me what I have and have not done in this world. Get a fucking life and stay the fuck out of mine!
This happens every once in a while, didn't read through all the posts.
We are glad you are quit, this is called the quit rage!
Did you figure out how to post roll?
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I understand what you all are saying..... I've been chewing more than forty yrs. myself. I have also quit a few times in my life and after 6 months or so, of nawing on hard candies and gum and whatever else I could get into my mouth, and feeling sick from all the damn garbage I ate, I would eventually cave in and go back to chewing. That's NOT the plan this time. I am quitting for good and in order to do that, I am getting a game plan going. I will have some sort of tobacco substitute for backup, BEFORE I quit. PERIOD! Call it whatever you want. Call me a sissy, what the fuckever.
And I will NOT post roll, until I have completely quit. I can honestly say that I haven't had a chew of tobacco since 6 AM this morning and I don't plan on anymore for the rest of the day either but, I aint posting roll, till I know for certain that I am quitting. Like it or Lump it. That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
It's not a contest of who has dipped the longest. I was rocking a nice 20 year habit before I found this site. If you've been dipping for 40 years, you sure as hell know everything you've tried to do in the past doesn't work. Perhaps it's possible some of the people on this site know more about quitting than you do? I know my longest quit before I found this site was about 3 days. I tried planning, and setting dates, and all that other shit. None of it worked. What has worked for me is posting roll every day, and promising my friends on this site that I won't succumb to the Nic Bitch today.
You'll find this to be the most welcoming, friendly community of people anywhere (I have), but no one has any sympathy for doing it any other way than cold turkey, right now.
is this for real? if it is you've got to be kidding me. if your not using why not post up and just make it one day? you can do anything for one day right? or is it harder for you than everybody else on this site?
p.s. you have never QUIT before, you've only stopped. this is where you pull your peaches out of that 'murse' you have and sack the fuck up and save your life. if you don't want to do that then we cant help you.
Nobody ever asked for your help Jeepman and I'm not asking you now. So stay the fuck out of it. You don't know me, you don't know anything about me and you're damn sure not gonna tell me what I have and have not done in this world. Get a fucking life and stay the fuck out of mine!
This happens every once in a while, didn't read through all the posts.
We are glad you are quit, this is called the quit rage!
Did you figure out how to post roll?
No, not yet Spuds but thanks for asking. I'm just about to go back through your directions and give it another shot. Can we talk in live chat? Maybe it would work better for this? Just asking....I'm pretty damn puter illiterate, when it comes to this kind of stuff.
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I aint here for any fucking contests and I'm definitely not here for your fucking sympathy. Where the hell do you come up with that Bullshit? 'Finger'
Everyone here just wants you to quit. That is what is most important here!
After you have quit and joined our ranks, the next guy will come through and say; he is not ready, I will quit on my birthday, after this can...
I look forward to your response to that newbie. Quit with us and don't wait.
Not sure wtf kind of response you're anticipating but, how the hell do you post roll
? I clicked on this and that but I can't make heads or tails of that shit. Someone wanna help me out with that? I haven't chewed in over 20 hours and having some major withdrawals. I don't remember this feeling at all from the last time I quit. I wake up every half-hour and it's like my mouth is screaming for something that aint there. Mouth is kinda sore too, along with my throat. Then, I fall back asleep for another half-hour and it's the same thing again. Very very strange.
Anyhow, I'm not waiting anymore......I'm just in need of some assistance in posting roll. I've gone to live chat a dozen times but, no one ever is in there to help either. 'help'
Good for you, dude. I will quit with you today! Stay strong and don't give in to those craves. That is The Bitch in your ear trying to get you back on her tit.
To post roll, go to your month (February I believe) and hit the quote button under someone who has posted roll.
From there, go to the "quoting" box and put your cursor anywhere in it. Hit Control A, then hit Control X, then go to the the text box and hit Control V. Now you just add your name and your day 1 to the quitters list. Easy!
I am glad you are on board! You body doesn't know what to do without the poison. The first 0-5 days will be very hard, but you can do it.
Try these instructions for: PC How to post roll
1. Login, go to your quit page, think about what you are going to post.
2. Find the most recent post
3. hit F5 or refresh the page
4. Press "quote" on the roll
5. Click in the box that has all of the Roll posts (the lower box), hit CTRL-A to select all and Press CTRL-X to CUT, not copy-if you copy, then you'll double post roll.
6. Click to the reply window and press CTRL+V to paste it in. Then write in your name, day and your promise
7. Press submit-done.
More instructions for Ipad, etc.
topic/1003072/1/#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1003072/1/#new)
Where is my quit page. to start with? Is this my quit page? I am already logged in....
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Boys and Girls, here is a quick reminder about why we quit. Suffering is at the end of every dippers journey. It can be short suffering from quit, or much longer and more painful if you do not quit. Please read.
http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/_/i ... ding-scars (http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/_/id/11754095/curt-schilling-not-hiding-scars)
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I aint here for any fucking contests and I'm definitely not here for your fucking sympathy. Where the hell do you come up with that Bullshit? 'Finger'
Everyone here just wants you to quit. That is what is most important here!
After you have quit and joined our ranks, the next guy will come through and say; he is not ready, I will quit on my birthday, after this can...
I look forward to your response to that newbie. Quit with us and don't wait.
Not sure wtf kind of response you're anticipating but, how the hell do you post roll
? I clicked on this and that but I can't make heads or tails of that shit. Someone wanna help me out with that? I haven't chewed in over 20 hours and having some major withdrawals. I don't remember this feeling at all from the last time I quit. I wake up every half-hour and it's like my mouth is screaming for something that aint there. Mouth is kinda sore too, along with my throat. Then, I fall back asleep for another half-hour and it's the same thing again. Very very strange.
Anyhow, I'm not waiting anymore......I'm just in need of some assistance in posting roll. I've gone to live chat a dozen times but, no one ever is in there to help either. 'help'
Good for you, dude. I will quit with you today! Stay strong and don't give in to those craves. That is The Bitch in your ear trying to get you back on her tit.
To post roll, go to your month (February I believe) and hit the quote button under someone who has posted roll.
From there, go to the "quoting" box and put your cursor anywhere in it. Hit Control A, then hit Control X, then go to the the text box and hit Control V. Now you just add your name and your day 1 to the quitters list. Easy!
I am glad you are on board! You body doesn't know what to do without the poison. The first 0-5 days will be very hard, but you can do it.
Try these instructions for: PC How to post roll
1. Login, go to your quit page, think about what you are going to post.
2. Find the most recent post
3. hit F5 or refresh the page
4. Press "quote" on the roll
5. Click in the box that has all of the Roll posts (the lower box), hit CTRL-A to select all and Press CTRL-X to CUT, not copy-if you copy, then you'll double post roll.
6. Click to the reply window and press CTRL+V to paste it in. Then write in your name, day and your promise
7. Press submit-done.
More instructions for Ipad, etc.
topic/1003072/1/#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1003072/1/#new)
Where is my quit page. to start with? Is this my quit page? I am already logged in....
I am trying to log into chat but I doesn't seem to be working.
Here is your quit group:
topic/10685990/15/#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/10685990/15/#new)
Go to the last page, click qoute in the lower right corner.
Click in the box that has all of the Roll posts (the lower box), hit CTRL-A to select all and Press CTRL-X to CUT, not copy-if you copy, then you'll double post roll.
6. Click to the reply window and press CTRL+V to paste it in. Then write in your name, day and your promise
7. Press submit-done.
Or until you get it figured out just add a reply and say that are quit. Everyone messes up roll for the first couple times.
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Well, I guess Idaho Spuds got me entered into the right roll call page. Thank-you Sir, I appreciate all your help. Now, I have a question for you. Have u ever had withdrawals at night? I had them last night and am wondering if I will have to look forward to another night of that? I feel great throughout the day. I seldom even have cravings. But last night when I went to bed, the withdrawals were pretty bad. No cravings or anything....just kinda, like ....hallucinations, or like I was dreaming but not really sleeping. Not really sure how to describe it but it was one strange night.
Does that usually go on for multiple nights, or am I an extreme case or what?
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I aint here for any fucking contests and I'm definitely not here for your fucking sympathy. Where the hell do you come up with that Bullshit? 'Finger'
Everyone here just wants you to quit. That is what is most important here!
After you have quit and joined our ranks, the next guy will come through and say; he is not ready, I will quit on my birthday, after this can...
I look forward to your response to that newbie. Quit with us and don't wait.
Not sure wtf kind of response you're anticipating but, how the hell do you post roll
? I clicked on this and that but I can't make heads or tails of that shit. Someone wanna help me out with that? I haven't chewed in over 20 hours and having some major withdrawals. I don't remember this feeling at all from the last time I quit. I wake up every half-hour and it's like my mouth is screaming for something that aint there. Mouth is kinda sore too, along with my throat. Then, I fall back asleep for another half-hour and it's the same thing again. Very very strange.
Anyhow, I'm not waiting anymore......I'm just in need of some assistance in posting roll. I've gone to live chat a dozen times but, no one ever is in there to help either. 'help'
Good for you, dude. I will quit with you today! Stay strong and don't give in to those craves. That is The Bitch in your ear trying to get you back on her tit.
To post roll, go to your month (February I believe) and hit the quote button under someone who has posted roll.
From there, go to the "quoting" box and put your cursor anywhere in it. Hit Control A, then hit Control X, then go to the the text box and hit Control V. Now you just add your name and your day 1 to the quitters list. Easy!
I am glad you are on board! You body doesn't know what to do without the poison. The first 0-5 days will be very hard, but you can do it.
Try these instructions for: PC How to post roll
1. Login, go to your quit page, think about what you are going to post.
2. Find the most recent post
3. hit F5 or refresh the page
4. Press "quote" on the roll
5. Click in the box that has all of the Roll posts (the lower box), hit CTRL-A to select all and Press CTRL-X to CUT, not copy-if you copy, then you'll double post roll.
6. Click to the reply window and press CTRL+V to paste it in. Then write in your name, day and your promise
7. Press submit-done.
More instructions for Ipad, etc.
topic/1003072/1/#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1003072/1/#new)
Where is my quit page. to start with? Is this my quit page? I am already logged in....
You figure this out yet Chewluver? Remember, no one is here to piss you off. That said, no one is here to be a nice guy either. We are all here trying to beat this gross shit we've been putting in our mouths for decades. I thought some of the tough guy shit on here was bullshit, too. Then I realized some of the guys preaching at me have been off dip for YEARS. I figure if this site can help them stay clean for that long, maybe they know something I don't. Just go with it man. You didn't land on this site by accident. You landed here for 2 reasons.
1) You want to quit dip.
2) Chewie is pretty good at SEO.
You were looking for help, and this site can 100% provide that. You have to be willing to stick your neck out a bit, though. Some ruffled feathers never killed anyone. Dip will kill you. Without fail.
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Well, I guess Idaho Spuds got me entered into the right roll call page. Thank-you Sir, I appreciate all your help. Now, I have a question for you. Have u ever had withdrawals at night? I had them last night and am wondering if I will have to look forward to another night of that? I feel great throughout the day. I seldom even have cravings. But last night when I went to bed, the withdrawals were pretty bad. No cravings or anything....just kinda, like ....hallucinations, or like I was dreaming but not really sleeping. Not really sure how to describe it but it was one strange night.
Does that usually go on for multiple nights, or am I an extreme case or what?
Sounds like you're just getting into the meat of your quit. The first 3-4 days are brutal. Read around the forums. Everyone will describe similar experiences. The important thing to remember is going off nicotine can't hurt you. It certainly ain't fun, but it can't hurt you.
Start a couple posts in your quit group, send some PMs to people and start growing your network of quitters. It will help in the long run!
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Well, I guess Idaho Spuds got me entered into the right roll call page. Thank-you Sir, I appreciate all your help. Now, I have a question for you. Have u ever had withdrawals at night? I had them last night and am wondering if I will have to look forward to another night of that? I feel great throughout the day. I seldom even have cravings. But last night when I went to bed, the withdrawals were pretty bad. No cravings or anything....just kinda, like ....hallucinations, or like I was dreaming but not really sleeping. Not really sure how to describe it but it was one strange night.
Does that usually go on for multiple nights, or am I an extreme case or what?
Sounds like you're just getting into the meat of your quit. The first 3-4 days are brutal. Read around the forums. Everyone will describe similar experiences. The important thing to remember is going off nicotine can't hurt you. It certainly ain't fun, but it can't hurt you.
Start a couple posts in your quit group, send some PMs to people and start growing your network of quitters. It will help in the long run!
Yep... night time can be brutal for a while. No two ways around it and no, from this perspective you're not unique.
THIS will give you a pretty good idea of what to expect
http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/wha ... t-dipping/ (http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/what-to-expect-when-you-quit-dipping/)
Drink lots of water, and break things down into managable "chunks". At first, it may be minute by minute. Over time, it'll turn into hours, days and week. But you WILL get there.
+1 goes a long way if you let it.
chewie
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Thanks fellas. I can see that I've got some reading to do for sure.
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Weirdest PM ever, anyone else get this?
SaintFrancis · 8 minutes ago Report Post Forward
Hi!
How are you? I'm sorry to be a bother, but I have a favor to ask. I just started my own General Forum. It's an unique forum, why is it unique? Well it's unique because its an open forum to discuss everything and anything. Plus we have many member oriented things, like custom user groups and clans that members can run themselves! We have many features and currently are constantly working on the forum to improve it. If you could check it out http://forum.thedumpload.net (http://forum.thedumpload.net) , I would greatly appreciate it! If you join the forum now and PM me, I will make you a V.I.P Member which offers you your own group title and even custom username color! Feel free to PM me with any questions!
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Weirdest PM ever, anyone else get this?
SaintFrancis · 8 minutes ago Report Post Forward
Hi!
How are you? I'm sorry to be a bother, but I have a favor to ask. I just started my own General Forum. It's an unique forum, why is it unique? Well it's unique because its an open forum to discuss everything and anything. Plus we have many member oriented things, like custom user groups and clans that members can run themselves! We have many features and currently are constantly working on the forum to improve it. If you could check it out http://forum.thedumpload.net (http://forum.thedumpload.net) , I would greatly appreciate it! If you join the forum now and PM me, I will make you a V.I.P Member which offers you your own group title and even custom username color! Feel free to PM me with any questions!
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Yep I got it too, spammer!
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So, my next question to you guys is this: should I post at the roll call thing like every day or what? Let everyone know that I'm still on the wagon and so on? I bookmarked that page, I think but, how do you post at your quit page exactly?
Or, should I just keep posting here, asking questions and so on?
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So, my next question to you guys is this: should I post at the roll call thing like every day or what? Let everyone know that I'm still on the wagon and so on? I bookmarked that page, I think but, how do you post at your quit page exactly?
Or, should I just keep posting here, asking questions and so on?
Post in Feb 2015 and in any other month where you want to support other quitters. You post on the top half of the roll. Go to the highest page number, scroll all the way to the bottom and find the post with a bunch of names, this is roll. Instructions are at the top in green. It may take a bit to get it down. No worried though, someone will fix it for you.
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So, my next question to you guys is this: should I post at the roll call thing like every day or what? Let everyone know that I'm still on the wagon and so on? I bookmarked that page, I think but, how do you post at your quit page exactly?
Or, should I just keep posting here, asking questions and so on?
Post in Feb 2015 and in any other month where you want to support other quitters. You post on the top half of the roll. Go to the highest page number, scroll all the way to the bottom and find the post with a bunch of names, this is roll. Instructions are at the top in green. It may take a bit to get it down. No worried though, someone will fix it for you.
Post Roll Every Damn Day(EDD) It is the life blood of this site and what makes it work.
It is your promise to stay quit for that one day, no nicotine and chew! Do it first thing in the morning.
topic/10391308/1/#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/10391308/1/#new)
As for general questions, post in your February group, this page and anything other forum that works.
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Anybody else having Problems with Live Chat??? I haven't been able to get in Yesterday or still today???
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Anybody else having Problems with Live Chat??? I haven't been able to get in Yesterday or still today???
yes, there have been a couple of reported issues. working through it with our chat host.
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Anybody else having Problems with Live Chat??? I haven't been able to get in Yesterday or still today???
yes, there have been a couple of reported issues. working through it with our chat host.
Thank you Chewie :wub:
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Weirdest PM ever, anyone else get this?
SaintFrancis · 8 minutes ago Report Post Forward
Hi!
How are you? I'm sorry to be a bother, but I have a favor to ask. I just started my own General Forum. It's an unique forum, why is it unique? Well it's unique because its an open forum to discuss everything and anything. Plus we have many member oriented things, like custom user groups and clans that members can run themselves! We have many features and currently are constantly working on the forum to improve it. If you could check it out http://forum.thedumpload.net (http://forum.thedumpload.net) , I would greatly appreciate it! If you join the forum now and PM me, I will make you a V.I.P Member which offers you your own group title and even custom username color! Feel free to PM me with any questions!
Posted Image
Yep I got it too, spammer!
Wow - A VIP Member! Congrats D4 - you're really moving up in the world!
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Question for you gray balls. What's this mean? :ph43r:
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Question for you gray balls. What's this mean? :ph43r:
not a gray ball...
but means "fear" in leet
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Question for you gray balls. What's this mean? :ph43r:
not a gray ball...
but means "fear" in leet
for your reading pleasure...1337 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet)
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Question for you gray balls. What's this mean? :ph43r:
not a gray ball...
but means "fear" in leet
for your reading pleasure...1337 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet)
Like pig-Latin for geeks?
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Question for you gray balls. What's this mean? :ph43r:
not a gray ball...
but means "fear" in leet
for your reading pleasure...1337 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet)
Like pig-Latin for geeks?
uckfay ooyay
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Question for you gray balls. What's this mean? :ph43r:
not a gray ball...
but means "fear" in leet
for your reading pleasure...1337 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet)
Like pig-Latin for geeks?
I'm guessing by the leading and trailing colon that it may be an emoticon tag. Most are wrapped in single quotes.
I can type wareagle all day long and it won't do anything, but if I wrap it with : then it turns into...
:wareagle:
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Thanks fellas. I can see that I've got some reading to do for sure.
GOOD to see you ragin chewluvr, have you made an intro yet and introduced yourself to us and told us your story? Your ragin because your quitting, everybody gets that and we are with you every step of the way because we've all been there. That being said, you obviously came here cause you needed the help or why else would you have googled "quitting dip" or something like that? Im glad you here and trying to save your life, I truly am. but this is a place of tough love, and that's what we addicts need from time to time. its going to suck and your going to hear things you don't like your first months. that's what It takes to get over an addiction. I would much rather you get mad at EVERYONE here that knows exactly what your going through than take it out on any one elses. that's what we're here for. This is a place of quit first and foremost and they guys/gals here know how to get it done. listen to the advice and hang on tight because it will blow for a while, but then it wont and it will be the most rewarding feeling you've ever had.
I quit with you today.
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Question for you gray balls. What's this mean? :ph43r:
not a gray ball...
but means "fear" in leet
for your reading pleasure...1337 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet)
Like pig-Latin for geeks?
I'm guessing by the leading and trailing colon that it may be an emoticon tag. Most are wrapped in single quotes.
I can type wareagle all day long and it won't do anything, but if I wrap it with : then it turns into...
:wareagle:
After doing a quick site search for :ph43r: I am 99% sure it is a deprecated emoticon. You're Welcome.
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Anybody else having Problems with Live Chat??? I haven't been able to get in Yesterday or still today???
yes, there have been a couple of reported issues. working through it with our chat host.
Thank you Chewie :wub:
I still cant get into chat either. does this mean I have to do real work now? 'bang head'
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I thought I had the role call page bookmarked but when I log in, it is nowhere to be found. I have no idea how to navigate this site and it's not getting any easier. Someone emailed me, asking me if I gave up already, because I haven't posted roll yet. WTF??? I HAVE NOT GIVEN UP AND I DO NOT INTEND TO GIVE UP ON MY QUIT! IF ANYONE HAS THE MIND, COULD YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN A SIMPLE YET EFFECTIVE WAY TO POST ROLL CALL DAILY. I quit on Monday. I AM STILL TOBACCO FREE, AS OF 8:24 TONIGHT! i VOW TO STAY TOBACCO FREE AGAIN TOMORROW!! I hope this gets posted in the right place?!
Thanks!!
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Anybody else having Problems with Live Chat??? I haven't been able to get in Yesterday or still today???
yes, there have been a couple of reported issues. working through it with our chat host.
Thank you Chewie :wub:
I still cant get into chat either. does this mean I have to do real work now? 'bang head'
Guys - We really need chat working for the new guys in fog/rage mode. What's the current status?
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Anybody else having Problems with Live Chat??? I haven't been able to get in Yesterday or still today???
yes, there have been a couple of reported issues. working through it with our chat host.
Thank you Chewie :wub:
I still cant get into chat either. does this mean I have to do real work now? 'bang head'
Lmao....I miss everyone!!! Hopefully Soon!!!
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I thought I had the role call page bookmarked but when I log in, it is nowhere to be found. I have no idea how to navigate this site and it's not getting any easier. Someone emailed me, asking me if I gave up already, because I haven't posted roll yet. WTF??? I HAVE NOT GIVEN UP AND I DO NOT INTEND TO GIVE UP ON MY QUIT! IF ANYONE HAS THE MIND, COULD YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN A SIMPLE YET EFFECTIVE WAY TO POST ROLL CALL DAILY. I quit on Monday. I AM STILL TOBACCO FREE, AS OF 8:24 TONIGHT! i VOW TO STAY TOBACCO FREE AGAIN TOMORROW!! I hope this gets posted in the right place?!
Thanks!!
Hello... I just went and was Going to try to add you to RollCall But someone has already done so...Yay!!! Here is the Link to your Page.
February 2015!!! (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/10685990/31/)
If you need more help I'll Gladly talk you through it...If you wanna reach out PM me and i'll swap Numbers!!! Great Job on Day 3!!!
:) Sam!!!
Oh and P.S. Just a Thought...You outta think about Changing Your Name To ChewHater or Something as Such ;) Why Luv the Very Poison that was Killing You???
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Anybody else having Problems with Live Chat??? I haven't been able to get in Yesterday or still today???
yes, there have been a couple of reported issues. working through it with our chat host.
Thank you Chewie :wub:
I still cant get into chat either. does this mean I have to do real work now? 'bang head'
Guys - We really need chat working for the new guys in fog/rage mode. What's the current status?
It's back. DOS attack. They're monitoring.
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Anybody else having Problems with Live Chat??? I haven't been able to get in Yesterday or still today???
yes, there have been a couple of reported issues. working through it with our chat host.
Thank you Chewie :wub:
I still cant get into chat either. does this mean I have to do real work now? 'bang head'
Guys - We really need chat working for the new guys in fog/rage mode. What's the current status?
It's back. DOS attack. They're monitoring.
I'm sooo Sad...I STILL can not get in. Not on any of my Devices.
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Anybody else having Problems with Live Chat??? I haven't been able to get in Yesterday or still today???
yes, there have been a couple of reported issues. working through it with our chat host.
Thank you Chewie :wub:
I still cant get into chat either. does this mean I have to do real work now? 'bang head'
Guys - We really need chat working for the new guys in fog/rage mode. What's the current status?
It's back. DOS attack. They're monitoring.
I'm sooo Sad...I STILL can not get in. Not on any of my Devices.
I could for like 3 minutes this morning and now I cant. 'bang head'
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Anybody else having Problems with Live Chat??? I haven't been able to get in Yesterday or still today???
yes, there have been a couple of reported issues. working through it with our chat host.
Thank you Chewie :wub:
I still cant get into chat either. does this mean I have to do real work now? 'bang head'
Guys - We really need chat working for the new guys in fog/rage mode. What's the current status?
It's back. DOS attack. They're monitoring.
I'm sooo Sad...I STILL can not get in. Not on any of my Devices.
I could for like 3 minutes this morning and now I cant. 'bang head'
I'm in there Jeep Truck...can you come in there now???
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Anybody else having Problems with Live Chat??? I haven't been able to get in Yesterday or still today???
yes, there have been a couple of reported issues. working through it with our chat host.
Thank you Chewie :wub:
I still cant get into chat either. does this mean I have to do real work now? 'bang head'
Guys - We really need chat working for the new guys in fog/rage mode. What's the current status?
It's back. DOS attack. They're monitoring.
I'm sooo Sad...I STILL can not get in. Not on any of my Devices.
I could for like 3 minutes this morning and now I cant. 'bang head'
I'm in there Jeep Truck...can you come in there now???
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Anybody else having Problems with Live Chat??? I haven't been able to get in Yesterday or still today???
yes, there have been a couple of reported issues. working through it with our chat host.
Thank you Chewie :wub:
I still cant get into chat either. does this mean I have to do real work now? 'bang head'
Guys - We really need chat working for the new guys in fog/rage mode. What's the current status?
It's back. DOS attack. They're monitoring.
I'm sooo Sad...I STILL can not get in. Not on any of my Devices.
I could for like 3 minutes this morning and now I cant. 'bang head'
I'm in there Jeep Truck...can you come in there now???
I'm not able to get in. Jan and Feb both have had some grumbling. Chat is a life line for early quits.
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Anybody else having Problems with Live Chat??? I haven't been able to get in Yesterday or still today???
yes, there have been a couple of reported issues. working through it with our chat host.
Thank you Chewie :wub:
I still cant get into chat either. does this mean I have to do real work now? 'bang head'
Guys - We really need chat working for the new guys in fog/rage mode. What's the current status?
It's back. DOS attack. They're monitoring.
I'm sooo Sad...I STILL can not get in. Not on any of my Devices.
I could for like 3 minutes this morning and now I cant. 'bang head'
I'm in there Jeep Truck...can you come in there now???
I'm not able to get in. Jan and Feb both have had some grumbling. Chat is a life line for early quits.
Still no live chat....booo
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Anybody else having Problems with Live Chat??? I haven't been able to get in Yesterday or still today???
yes, there have been a couple of reported issues. working through it with our chat host.
Thank you Chewie :wub:
I still cant get into chat either. does this mean I have to do real work now? 'bang head'
Guys - We really need chat working for the new guys in fog/rage mode. What's the current status?
It's back. DOS attack. They're monitoring.
I'm sooo Sad...I STILL can not get in. Not on any of my Devices.
I could for like 3 minutes this morning and now I cant. 'bang head'
I'm in there Jeep Truck...can you come in there now???
I'm not able to get in. Jan and Feb both have had some grumbling. Chat is a life line for early quits.
Still no live chat....booo
It was full last night.
What error are you getting? You may need to clear your cache.
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Anybody else having Problems with Live Chat??? I haven't been able to get in Yesterday or still today???
yes, there have been a couple of reported issues. working through it with our chat host.
Thank you Chewie :wub:
I still cant get into chat either. does this mean I have to do real work now? 'bang head'
Guys - We really need chat working for the new guys in fog/rage mode. What's the current status?
It's back. DOS attack. They're monitoring.
I'm sooo Sad...I STILL can not get in. Not on any of my Devices.
I could for like 3 minutes this morning and now I cant. 'bang head'
I'm in there Jeep Truck...can you come in there now???
I'm not able to get in. Jan and Feb both have had some grumbling. Chat is a life line for early quits.
Still no live chat....booo
It was full last night.
What error are you getting? You may need to clear your cache.
Got on at 10ish last night.
Shoulda updated this post, my bad.
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Anybody else having Problems with Live Chat??? I haven't been able to get in Yesterday or still today???
yes, there have been a couple of reported issues. working through it with our chat host.
Thank you Chewie :wub:
I still cant get into chat either. does this mean I have to do real work now? 'bang head'
Guys - We really need chat working for the new guys in fog/rage mode. What's the current status?
It's back. DOS attack. They're monitoring.
I'm sooo Sad...I STILL can not get in. Not on any of my Devices.
I could for like 3 minutes this morning and now I cant. 'bang head'
I'm in there Jeep Truck...can you come in there now???
I'm not able to get in. Jan and Feb both have had some grumbling. Chat is a life line for early quits.
Still no live chat....booo
It was full last night.
What error are you getting? You may need to clear your cache.
Got on at 10ish last night.
Shoulda updated this post, my bad.
Sounds like Operator Error.
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Dear Abbey letter from a wife whose husband is a secrete chewer.
http://news.yahoo.com/womans-childhood- ... 08035.html (http://news.yahoo.com/womans-childhood-boyfriend-plagued-checkered-past-053008035.html)
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Dear Abbey letter from a wife whose husband is a secrete chewer.
http://news.yahoo.com/womans-childhood- ... 08035.html (http://news.yahoo.com/womans-childhood-boyfriend-plagued-checkered-past-053008035.html)
I sent Abby my own letter. Told her where the Quit really happens - KTC!
I encourage all of you to do the same. Don't cost nothing. If she's going to give advice about Quitting, she might as well have the proper tools.
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Dear Abbey letter from a wife whose husband is a secrete chewer.
http://news.yahoo.com/womans-childhood- ... 08035.html (http://news.yahoo.com/womans-childhood-boyfriend-plagued-checkered-past-053008035.html)
I sent Abby my own letter. Told her where the Quit really happens - KTC!
I encourage all of you to do the same. Don't cost nothing. If she's going to give advice about Quitting, she might as well have the proper tools.
I sent a letter to her as well. I haven't heard of the other site but I told her about KTC.
I also told her that it is an addiction and while you have to want to quit, you need to right tools to be successful.
I hope at least a few other people read it and quit chewing.
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Yo...again a big thank you to all here who are doing a great service to so many. I'm about 7 weeks into my quit, and this place has been a big help. I will say to anyone who is early in the process, it's a total beast. I had panic attacks for like a month. I still don't sleep right, and my brain is still going haywire craving something. I don't even think it knows what it wants anymore. It just wants a drug. But this is just my reality for now. The good thing is, while dipping, I didn't feel all that much better... I slept well and didn't feel panicky and have weird, constant cravings...but I was in another type of pain. I felt suicidal sometimes. Like a total worthless addict. So I'll take this pain every day over that pain. And I know that one day my brain will get back to the way it was meant to be, and I'll feel good.
It's funny how online how they tell you that nicotine cravings will last 2 or 3 minutes and all you have to do is breath deeply or or chew gum...I don't know about you guys but mine last all day. Nonstop. Still, after like 50 days. But I'm more comfortable dealing with it now. Sooner or later the addiction will get bored with me and ease up. It's a law of nature. So anyway, thanks again, gentlemen. Talk with you soon.
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Yo...again a big thank you to all here who are doing a great service to so many. I'm about 7 weeks into my quit, and this place has been a big help. I will say to anyone who is early in the process, it's a total beast. I had panic attacks for like a month. I still don't sleep right, and my brain is still going haywire craving something. I don't even think it knows what it wants anymore. It just wants a drug. But this is just my reality for now. The good thing is, while dipping, I didn't feel all that much better... I slept well and didn't feel panicky and have weird, constant cravings...but I was in another type of pain. I felt suicidal sometimes. Like a total worthless addict. So I'll take this pain every day over that pain. And I know that one day my brain will get back to the way it was meant to be, and I'll feel good.
It's funny how online how they tell you that nicotine cravings will last 2 or 3 minutes and all you have to do is breath deeply or or chew gum...I don't know about you guys but mine last all day. Nonstop. Still, after like 50 days. But I'm more comfortable dealing with it now. Sooner or later the addiction will get bored with me and ease up. It's a law of nature. So anyway, thanks again, gentlemen. Talk with you soon.
Hey Rob. 50 days is awesome. Glad you could get something by reading here. I gotta coerect you though. Your addiction will never be bored of you. Contrary. You will become complacent in your Quit. That is when she will strike hard.
If what you see here is so helpful, I HIGHLY recommend you take the complete program and run with it. Post roll. Engage with other Quitters. Make yourself accountable to another Quitter. It will add one more brick to your Quit foundation, and help you succeed more than you can know.
I'm begging you. Don't do this alone. Post Roll. Keep your word. Repeat.
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Dear Abbey letter from a wife whose husband is a secrete chewer.
http://news.yahoo.com/womans-childhood- ... 08035.html (http://news.yahoo.com/womans-childhood-boyfriend-plagued-checkered-past-053008035.html)
I sent Abby my own letter. Told her where the Quit really happens - KTC!
I encourage all of you to do the same. Don't cost nothing. If she's going to give advice about Quitting, she might as well have the proper tools.
I sent a letter to her as well. I haven't heard of the other site but I told her about KTC.
I also told her that it is an addiction and while you have to want to quit, you need to right tools to be successful.
I hope at least a few other people read it and quit chewing.
TheQuit.org
huh.
Pretty much a verbatim rip-off of KTC, minus the # of active posters.
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Just wanted to put this up here, in case we some people lurking, wondering why they should join, and what they'll get if they do. This question was asked in our Member's area, and sparked a quick little discussion. As I was adding to it, the numbers really struck me.
I'm no whiz, and we can argue the math all we want, but let's face it folks, it takes people to make posts. It takes lots of people to make 2.9 Million posts. It takes lots of people to make 600,000 posts in 12 months.
You want to know how many people are active on KTC? Not enough. We always have room for one more!
I know that KTC has over 21,000 registered users but exactly how many of them are active?
last month we had north of 11,000 unique visitors to the forums. that's about the best i can do in terms of "active" users.
I don't know how many active members we have, but we're sprinting twoards a total of 3 Million posts. That's 3,000,000. All I know is it takes more than a 150 guys to make that many comments. Even if there were all J2B's, and 30's. The post heuers that they are.
I realize this is over a 7 year period, but this time last year, we had 2.3M posts. Right now we're 2.9M. That's 600K posts in a year. Let's do some math. Divide 600,000 by 11,000 and you get a little over 54. Now, take into account how many guys here are post and ghost, and how many are here with 30, 40 posts daily, 11,000 active members seems like a good, fair number to me.
Show me another support system with those types of numbers!
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Just wanted to put this up here, in case we some people lurking, wondering why they should join, and what they'll get if they do. This question was asked in our Member's area, and sparked a quick little discussion. As I was adding to it, the numbers really struck me.
I'm no whiz, and we can argue the math all we want, but let's face it folks, it takes people to make posts. It takes lots of people to make 2.9 Million posts. It takes lots of people to make 600,000 posts in 12 months.
You want to know how many people are active on KTC? Not enough. We always have room for one more!
I know that KTC has over 21,000 registered users but exactly how many of them are active?
last month we had north of 11,000 unique visitors to the forums. that's about the best i can do in terms of "active" users.
I don't know how many active members we have, but we're sprinting twoards a total of 3 Million posts. That's 3,000,000. All I know is it takes more than a 150 guys to make that many comments. Even if there were all J2B's, and 30's. The post heuers that they are.
I realize this is over a 7 year period, but this time last year, we had 2.3M posts. Right now we're 2.9M. That's 600K posts in a year. Let's do some math. Divide 600,000 by 11,000 and you get a little over 54. Now, take into account how many guys here are post and ghost, and how many are here with 30, 40 posts daily, 11,000 active members seems like a good, fair number to me.
Show me another support system with those types of numbers!
Math is for nerds. and Marines.
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Day 99 is today! November 10, 2014. Tomorrow will be 100 days for me and falls on Remembrance Day in Canada. I din't plan it this way it came about as my family took a trip on August 4th and I said to myself, why not start now seeing as I will get a week's head start since I don't chew in front of the family. When I got back from that trip I found this website and it helped me tremendously. Thank you.
My first chew was when I was 16 and I puked. I became almost an everyday user at 22. It got worse from there. The last year I would say I had 4-6 chews a day, big pinches of skoal. I'm 38 years old and a father of 3. I'm done with chewing.
You can do it too.
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Day 99 is today! November 10, 2014. Tomorrow will be 100 days for me and falls on Remembrance Day in Canada. I din't plan it this way it came about as my family took a trip on August 4th and I said to myself, why not start now seeing as I will get a week's head start since I don't chew in front of the family. When I got back from that trip I found this website and it helped me tremendously. Thank you.
My first chew was when I was 16 and I puked. I became almost an everyday user at 22. It got worse from there. The last year I would say I had 4-6 chews a day, big pinches of skoal. I'm 38 years old and a father of 3. I'm done with chewing.
You can do it too.
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Quit one week ago today, holy crap is this hard!!!
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Quit one week ago today, holy crap is this hard!!!
congrats on a week of freedom!
yes, it's hard, but it's also 100% doable (as you're proving). head on over to february 2015 which is your quit group, introduce yourself and post roll
topic/10685990/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/10685990/)
let us know how we can help!
chewie
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My first Post. I am 26 yrs old, Woke up yesterday morning and said enough is enough 11yrs the can has controlled me!!! I have 3 kids. Today is my 2nd full day without the can and nicotine. I have drank lots of water and powerade. My eating has been crazy seems like all i have done the last 48!!!! Any Advice????
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My first Post. I am 26 yrs old, Woke up yesterday morning and said enough is enough 11yrs the can has controlled me!!! I have 3 kids. Today is my 2nd full day without the can and nicotine. I have drank lots of water and powerade. My eating has been crazy seems like all i have done the last 48!!!! Any Advice????
you're right on track - don't wory about eating / weight gain at the beginnning... it happens to the best of us. the amount of weight you'd need to gain to be as unhealthy as you were when you were dipping is staggering.
drinking lots of water will help you flush your system so you're doing good there too. it takes 72 hours for nicotine to work its way out of your body.
advice? post roll every day. its your promise you won't dip that day. repeat tomorrow.
it's not easy, but it's simple.
head on over to february 2015 which is your quit group, introduce yourself and post roll
topic/10685990/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/10685990/)
let us know how we can help - welcome aboard!
chewie
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To all of those who are serving or who have served... a sincere "thank you".
*tips cap*
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Smokey Mountain or Jake's Mint Chew... About to order off line... Suggestions???
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Not sure what you want...were you a wintergreen chewer? I wasn't but with that said, I kinda like Smokey mountain wintergreen, and if I was a wintergreen chewer, I'd say it is probly damn good. If you were a straight chewer like myself, I would think that you would want to chew Smokey Mountain Straight. I highly recommend the Straight. Hope this helps.
Also, you can buy Smokey Mountain at Walmart and 7-eleven. So, it is available if you run out away from home.
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Buy a large variety, try each one and find your favorite. Expensive? Not as much as chemo or jaw surgery.
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Good morning. I have been following KTC on Twitter for a while and just joined this site a few minutes ago. Today is Day One. I have tried to quit many of times over the years, but it seemed like it was always for my wife, for my kids, for work, but never for me.
Yesterday I noticed one of my bottom gums was almost gone and the bottom of my tooth is showing. It seemed to come out of no where! I could not believe it and I have been freaked out since. Did not sleep much last night, knowing I was about to quit. I woke up this morning, went and found my can and threw it in the trash and came straight to this site.
I HAVE to make it thru this time. I have quit probably 4 or 5 times before and sometimes it lasted one day and once it lasted two years. This has to be different.
I am worried because I travel a lot on the road and when I am bored with driving, that is when I would put in a big ol dip! I have a 3 hour road trip tonight to watch my son play football, spend the night in hotel, then a 3 hour drive back. This is a tough day to quit, but I could not wait any longer.
Day One is Here!
Brian Bowman, 43 years old
Fort Worth, Texas
1 can a day for 15 years
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Good morning. I have been following KTC on Twitter for a while and just joined this site a few minutes ago. Today is Day One. I have tried to quit many of times over the years, but it seemed like it was always for my wife, for my kids, for work, but never for me.
Yesterday I noticed one of my bottom gums was almost gone and the bottom of my tooth is showing. It seemed to come out of no where! I could not believe it and I have been freaked out since. Did not sleep much last night, knowing I was about to quit. I woke up this morning, went and found my can and threw it in the trash and came straight to this site.
I HAVE to make it thru this time. I have quit probably 4 or 5 times before and sometimes it lasted one day and once it lasted two years. This has to be different.
I am worried because I travel a lot on the road and when I am bored with driving, that is when I would put in a big ol dip! I have a 3 hour road trip tonight to watch my son play football, spend the night in hotel, then a 3 hour drive back. This is a tough day to quit, but I could not wait any longer.
Day One is Here!
Brian Bowman, 43 years old
Fort Worth, Texas
1 can a day for 15 years
Welcome Brian! Dayone of freedom... The folks over in February are anxious to meet you and look forward to your promise each day.
Find them ------- HERE (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/10685990/27/?x=90)
We don't try, we do! Check out the welcome center up top there for the whys and hows. Shout out if you have and questions. We shall keep the rest of our teeth, together!
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I know this is an old hat topic but PLEASE check the ROLL CALL date BEFORE posting roll. Also when you see a name following "Members Posting" DON'T POST, hit F5 multiple times to refresh the page until the name is no longer there. You may even have to go surf KTC and come back later. If you post while someone else is posting in your group, you're going to bump someone, and that's going to FUCK UP roll call. Always make sure you are quoting the last entry on roll and don't try to enter a missed roll the next day buttercup. The noobs and even the some vets need to quit being so careless and selfish too and take their damn time posting...this isn't a race.
Thank you
Rant over
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I'm quitting. That's right. Quitting dip and recently smoking. Oh man, this is gonna suck. This is gonna suck hard. I know I can get through the first day with just minimal struggle. That's alright I can do that. But that second day.. That's where I've failed every time. The second day is when the incredible irritability kicks in. That's where I've failed the 10+ times I've tried to quit dip in the last year alone.
I can do this. Man, I hope I can do this. Nah, I WILL do this. I'm tired of the money spent. I'm tired of my family wondering when I'm going to get cancer from dipping and now recently smoking. I'm tired of wondering if I'm going to live to see the younguns in my family grow up.
I've got to do this. It's easy to say that I can do this now because I've just got my nicotine fix.. The next 48 hours are going to be make it or break it for me. If I can make it through that, I can make it through anything.
I'm going to post here every time I get a craving. It will most likely be when I wake up in the morning. That's how I'm going to stay grounded with this. I don't have just myself and my family to work for, I have everyone on this board that will be holding me accountable. As long as I'm posting here, you know I've stayed quit.
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I'm quitting. That's right. Quitting dip and recently smoking. Oh man, this is gonna suck. This is gonna suck hard. I know I can get through the first day with just minimal struggle. That's alright I can do that. But that second day.. That's where I've failed every time. The second day is when the incredible irritability kicks in. That's where I've failed the 10+ times I've tried to quit dip in the last year alone.
I can do this. Man, I hope I can do this. Nah, I WILL do this. I'm tired of the money spent. I'm tired of my family wondering when I'm going to get cancer from dipping and now recently smoking. I'm tired of wondering if I'm going to live to see the younguns in my family grow up.
I've got to do this. It's easy to say that I can do this now because I've just got my nicotine fix.. The next 48 hours are going to be make it or break it for me. If I can make it through that, I can make it through anything.
I'm going to post here every time I get a craving. It will most likely be when I wake up in the morning. That's how I'm going to stay grounded with this. I don't have just myself and my family to work for, I have everyone on this board that will be holding me accountable. As long as I'm posting here, you know I've stayed quit.
You need to head on over to the welcome center and read into the site a bit. Post what you've written here in "Introductions" then head over to Quit Groups and click on February 2015 and follow the directions on how to post roll and make sure you do so every single day.
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Good morning. I have been following KTC on Twitter for a while and just joined this site a few minutes ago. Today is Day One. I have tried to quit many of times over the years, but it seemed like it was always for my wife, for my kids, for work, but never for me.
Yesterday I noticed one of my bottom gums was almost gone and the bottom of my tooth is showing. It seemed to come out of no where! I could not believe it and I have been freaked out since. Did not sleep much last night, knowing I was about to quit. I woke up this morning, went and found my can and threw it in the trash and came straight to this site.
I HAVE to make it thru this time. I have quit probably 4 or 5 times before and sometimes it lasted one day and once it lasted two years. This has to be different.
I am worried because I travel a lot on the road and when I am bored with driving, that is when I would put in a big ol dip! I have a 3 hour road trip tonight to watch my son play football, spend the night in hotel, then a 3 hour drive back. This is a tough day to quit, but I could not wait any longer.
Day One is Here!
Brian Bowman, 43 years old
Fort Worth, Texas
1 can a day for 15 years
Welcome Brian! Dayone of freedom... The folks over in February are anxious to meet you and look forward to your promise each day.
Find them ------- HERE (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/10685990/27/?x=90)
We don't try, we do! Check out the welcome center up top there for the whys and hows. Shout out if you have and questions. We shall keep the rest of our teeth, together!
Brian, great to hear. You've made the right decision, yes it's a bitch every day but it's worth it. I often have to do the drive and flights and now I use gum and sunflower seeds. Good luck with the QUIT...you can do it....post roll everyday.
Hey I'm in Houston and if I can do it down here in the hole you can sure do it up there
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Good morning. I have been following KTC on Twitter for a while and just joined this site a few minutes ago. Today is Day One. I have tried to quit many of times over the years, but it seemed like it was always for my wife, for my kids, for work, but never for me.
Yesterday I noticed one of my bottom gums was almost gone and the bottom of my tooth is showing. It seemed to come out of no where! I could not believe it and I have been freaked out since. Did not sleep much last night, knowing I was about to quit. I woke up this morning, went and found my can and threw it in the trash and came straight to this site.
I HAVE to make it thru this time. I have quit probably 4 or 5 times before and sometimes it lasted one day and once it lasted two years. This has to be different.
I am worried because I travel a lot on the road and when I am bored with driving, that is when I would put in a big ol dip! I have a 3 hour road trip tonight to watch my son play football, spend the night in hotel, then a 3 hour drive back. This is a tough day to quit, but I could not wait any longer.
Day One is Here!
Brian Bowman, 43 years old
Fort Worth, Texas
1 can a day for 15 years
Welcome Brian! Dayone of freedom... The folks over in February are anxious to meet you and look forward to your promise each day.
Find them ------- HERE (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/10685990/27/?x=90)
We don't try, we do! Check out the welcome center up top there for the whys and hows. Shout out if you have and questions. We shall keep the rest of our teeth, together!
Brian, great to hear. You've made the right decision, yes it's a bitch every day but it's worth it. I often have to do the drive and flights and now I use gum and sunflower seeds. Good luck with the QUIT...you can do it....post roll everyday.
Hey I'm in Houston and if I can do it down here in the hole you can sure do it up there
Welcome Brian, hey listen these first few days are going to suck but you can do it, one hour at a time! Tough it out. I am on day 7 and it has gotten a little easier. One day at a time. Stay quit!
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Whats up all? Day 1 here. Tired of this shit controlling everything I do. Have already worked out twice today, have bags of seeds, ready for hell.
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Whats up all? Day 1 here. Tired of this shit controlling everything I do. Have already worked out twice today, have bags of seeds, ready for hell.
Seeds help. Get some fake or some chewing gum (not nicotine gum), too. And make sure you have several numbers of people in your quit group, as well as more seasoned quitters. It helps when cravings start to hit. They'll remind you why you're quit and help keep you that way.
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I'm quitting. That's right. Quitting dip and recently smoking. Oh man, this is gonna suck. This is gonna suck hard. I know I can get through the first day with just minimal struggle. That's alright I can do that. But that second day.. That's where I've failed every time. The second day is when the incredible irritability kicks in. That's where I've failed the 10+ times I've tried to quit dip in the last year alone.
I can do this. Man, I hope I can do this. Nah, I WILL do this. I'm tired of the money spent. I'm tired of my family wondering when I'm going to get cancer from dipping and now recently smoking. I'm tired of wondering if I'm going to live to see the younguns in my family grow up.
I've got to do this. It's easy to say that I can do this now because I've just got my nicotine fix.. The next 48 hours are going to be make it or break it for me. If I can make it through that, I can make it through anything.
I'm going to post here every time I get a craving. It will most likely be when I wake up in the morning. That's how I'm going to stay grounded with this. I don't have just myself and my family to work for, I have everyone on this board that will be holding me accountable. As long as I'm posting here, you know I've stayed quit.
'Popcorn'
'facepalm''
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I'm quitting. That's right. Quitting dip and recently smoking. Oh man, this is gonna suck. This is gonna suck hard. I know I can get through the first day with just minimal struggle. That's alright I can do that. But that second day.. That's where I've failed every time. The second day is when the incredible irritability kicks in. That's where I've failed the 10+ times I've tried to quit dip in the last year alone.
I can do this. Man, I hope I can do this. Nah, I WILL do this. I'm tired of the money spent. I'm tired of my family wondering when I'm going to get cancer from dipping and now recently smoking. I'm tired of wondering if I'm going to live to see the younguns in my family grow up.
I've got to do this. It's easy to say that I can do this now because I've just got my nicotine fix.. The next 48 hours are going to be make it or break it for me. If I can make it through that, I can make it through anything.
I'm going to post here every time I get a craving. It will most likely be when I wake up in the morning. That's how I'm going to stay grounded with this. I don't have just myself and my family to work for, I have everyone on this board that will be holding me accountable. As long as I'm posting here, you know I've stayed quit.
'Popcorn'
'facepalm''
Slow down there bucko.
We're doing this today as well, and well...it's pretty awesome after a little while. It may suck a little at the beginning, but it's well worth it ultimately. Post roll. Make some friends. You'll see that there are many guys like you going through the same shit you are. You aren't special to this battle, but you are special to you: Make your quit a priority. You'll find that others here will do the same.
You can do this.
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New Blog Post: 8 Years Of Quitting Nicotine For KillTheCan.org
http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/11/8-ye ... hecan-org/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/11/8-years-of-quitting-nicotine-for-killthecan-org/)
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New Blog Post: 8 Years Of Quitting Nicotine For KillTheCan.org
http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/11/8-ye ... hecan-org/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/11/8-years-of-quitting-nicotine-for-killthecan-org/)
Nothing for nothing, but this year, our anniversary coinsides directly with the American Cancer Society's Great American Smoke Out.
Any way to get the word out there any more than we already do?
Are we a link from ACS website?
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Good morning. I have been following KTC on Twitter for a while and just joined this site a few minutes ago. Today is Day One. I have tried to quit many of times over the years, but it seemed like it was always for my wife, for my kids, for work, but never for me.
Yesterday I noticed one of my bottom gums was almost gone and the bottom of my tooth is showing. It seemed to come out of no where! I could not believe it and I have been freaked out since. Did not sleep much last night, knowing I was about to quit. I woke up this morning, went and found my can and threw it in the trash and came straight to this site.
I HAVE to make it thru this time. I have quit probably 4 or 5 times before and sometimes it lasted one day and once it lasted two years. This has to be different.
I am worried because I travel a lot on the road and when I am bored with driving, that is when I would put in a big ol dip! I have a 3 hour road trip tonight to watch my son play football, spend the night in hotel, then a 3 hour drive back. This is a tough day to quit, but I could not wait any longer.
Day One is Here!
Brian Bowman, 43 years old
Fort Worth, Texas
1 can a day for 15 years
Welcome Brian! Dayone of freedom... The folks over in February are anxious to meet you and look forward to your promise each day.
Find them ------- HERE (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/10685990/27/?x=90)
We don't try, we do! Check out the welcome center up top there for the whys and hows. Shout out if you have and questions. We shall keep the rest of our teeth, together!
Brian, great to hear. You've made the right decision, yes it's a bitch every day but it's worth it. I often have to do the drive and flights and now I use gum and sunflower seeds. Good luck with the QUIT...you can do it....post roll everyday.
Hey I'm in Houston and if I can do it down here in the hole you can sure do it up there
Welcome Brian, hey listen these first few days are going to suck but you can do it, one hour at a time! Tough it out. I am on day 7 and it has gotten a little easier. One day at a time. Stay quit!
I'm in Houston as well. If my sorry weak ass can quit for over 5 years so can you!!! One day at a time!!! I stopped several times in the past but never really QUIT until coming here. Hang on as this will be a cock fight but its damn well WORTH it to get that crap out of your life for good!!! Brian or Boober PM me if you have any questions or need support!!! You can DO this!!!!
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You can do it. I am glad I found this site. I'm a 5 year dipper of Skoal. I had been wanting to quit for years and have given in numerous times. But this time is different. I put my foot down on 11/18 and have not looked back since. I dumped the rest of my can down the toilet and as it was going down I pictured my life with tobacco and that's where I would end up. I am now 38 hours free and can notice the change. The first 24 hours were tough...the fog was intense, battled sleep issues, the craving and thought that one dip can make this go away. But I fought through and after hour 24 the fog is no where near as bad and only lasts short time periods. I'm fighting the cravings with smokey mountain, sunflower seeds and gum. I drew the line in the sand and will not allow this product to control my life any longer. These last 38 hours have been rough but in 34 more I will be almost completely nicotine free and will never look back!
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You can do it. I am glad I found this site. I'm a 5 year dipper of Skoal. I had been wanting to quit for years and have given in numerous times. But this time is different. I put my foot down on 11/18 and have not looked back since. I dumped the rest of my can down the toilet and as it was going down I pictured my life with tobacco and that's where I would end up. I am now 38 hours free and can notice the change. The first 24 hours were tough...the fog was intense, battled sleep issues, the craving and thought that one dip can make this go away. But I fought through and after hour 24 the fog is no where near as bad and only lasts short time periods. I'm fighting the cravings with smokey mountain, sunflower seeds and gum. I drew the line in the sand and will not allow this product to control my life any longer. These last 38 hours have been rough but in 34 more I will be almost completely nicotine free and will never look back!
15 days into it and all I want is a Fucking dip. Hope this shit gets better soon what the fuck. 2 weeks in. This fuckin sucks.
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Here's a general discussion... you're all a bunch of assholes how's that? Fuck off!
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Here's a general discussion... you're all a bunch of assholes how's that? Fuck off!
LOL, you aint gonna get much support talking to people like that dude!
I just sent you a PM. Call me, if you got the balls!
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Here's a general discussion... you're all a bunch of assholes how's that? Fuck off!
Fun day today?
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Here's a general discussion... you're all a bunch of assholes how's that? Fuck off!
Fun day today?
Must be waste....he never called either fyi.
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Here's a general discussion... you're all a bunch of assholes how's that? Fuck off!
Fun day today?
Must be waste....he never called either fyi.
Yah having a blast, just got the message Sandy, I'm at work.
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It's tough man.....been without the snuff/dip for awhile now...as much as I want a damn big dip of Grizzly Wintergreen or some Copenhagen right now.... But instead take a big ass chaw of some good Levi Garrett or Redman Golden Blend, also got a plug of Days work haha,
I don't know how to be off nicotine totally man.....in roughly 10 years longest I ever went was like 2 months and it was pure hell the whole time...my god did I feel like a different person....so much Anxiety/Depression/Cognitive Decline...Headaches, you name it.....
Have to say though I am glad to be off the Snuff/dip though, as much as I will always miss it you know....
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It's tough man.....been without the snuff/dip for awhile now...as much as I want a damn big dip of Grizzly Wintergreen or some Copenhagen right now.... But instead take a big ass chaw of some good Levi Garrett or Redman Golden Blend, also got a plug of Days work haha,
I don't know how to be off nicotine totally man.....in roughly 10 years longest I ever went was like 2 months and it was pure hell the whole time...my god did I feel like a different person....so much Anxiety/Depression/Cognitive Decline...Headaches, you name it.....
Have to say though I am glad to be off the Snuff/dip though, as much as I will always miss it you know....
So you haven't quit shit is what you're saying? You need to quit or get the fuck out of here because you have no clue what it's like.
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You can do it. I am glad I found this site. I'm a 5 year dipper of Skoal. I had been wanting to quit for years and have given in numerous times. But this time is different. I put my foot down on 11/18 and have not looked back since. I dumped the rest of my can down the toilet and as it was going down I pictured my life with tobacco and that's where I would end up. I am now 38 hours free and can notice the change. The first 24 hours were tough...the fog was intense, battled sleep issues, the craving and thought that one dip can make this go away. But I fought through and after hour 24 the fog is no where near as bad and only lasts short time periods. I'm fighting the cravings with smokey mountain, sunflower seeds and gum. I drew the line in the sand and will not allow this product to control my life any longer. These last 38 hours have been rough but in 34 more I will be almost completely nicotine free and will never look back!
15 days into it and all I want is a Fucking dip. Hope this shit gets better soon what the fuck. 2 weeks in. This fuckin sucks.
You brain is tricking you that u want a dip. Its all mental now!!!! Don't fall for all the lies of the Nic Bitch!!! You Don't do that crap anymore!!!! Hang in there things will get better, WAY better!!!!
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It's tough man.....been without the snuff/dip for awhile now...as much as I want a damn big dip of Grizzly Wintergreen or some Copenhagen right now.... But instead take a big ass chaw of some good Levi Garrett or Redman Golden Blend, also got a plug of Days work haha,
I don't know how to be off nicotine totally man.....in roughly 10 years longest I ever went was like 2 months and it was pure hell the whole time...my god did I feel like a different person....so much Anxiety/Depression/Cognitive Decline...Headaches, you name it.....
Have to say though I am glad to be off the Snuff/dip though, as much as I will always miss it you know....
Again. .. you are NOT QUIT. You can't say shit. You have no ground to stand on. You need to figure it out because you are confused as to what the rules of this place are.
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It's tough man.....been without the snuff/dip for awhile now...as much as I want a damn big dip of Grizzly Wintergreen or some Copenhagen right now.... But instead take a big ass chaw of some good Levi Garrett or Redman Golden Blend, also got a plug of Days work haha,
I don't know how to be off nicotine totally man.....in roughly 10 years longest I ever went was like 2 months and it was pure hell the whole time...my god did I feel like a different person....so much Anxiety/Depression/Cognitive Decline...Headaches, you name it.....
Have to say though I am glad to be off the Snuff/dip though, as much as I will always miss it you know....
Again. .. you are NOT QUIT. You can't say shit. You have no ground to stand on. You need to figure it out because you are confused as to what the rules of this place are.
JR88, DO NOT POST in here again until you are TOTALLY NIC FREE!!! You are welcome to post in Introductions ONLY while using.
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It's tough man.....been without the snuff/dip for awhile now...as much as I want a damn big dip of Grizzly Wintergreen or some Copenhagen right now.... But instead take a big ass chaw of some good Levi Garrett or Redman Golden Blend, also got a plug of Days work haha,
I don't know how to be off nicotine totally man.....in roughly 10 years longest I ever went was like 2 months and it was pure hell the whole time...my god did I feel like a different person....so much Anxiety/Depression/Cognitive Decline...Headaches, you name it.....
Have to say though I am glad to be off the Snuff/dip though, as much as I will always miss it you know....
Again. .. you are NOT QUIT. You can't say shit. You have no ground to stand on. You need to figure it out because you are confused as to what the rules of this place are.
I can say what I want you fucking punk/bitch I didn't know...go Fuck yourself.... fucking question me again bitch I will fuck you up, being off the dip alone for any length of time is unbelievable for me so shut the fuck up. I'm still working on the chaw.
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It's tough man.....been without the snuff/dip for awhile now...as much as I want a damn big dip of Grizzly Wintergreen or some Copenhagen right now.... But instead take a big ass chaw of some good Levi Garrett or Redman Golden Blend, also got a plug of Days work haha,
I don't know how to be off nicotine totally man.....in roughly 10 years longest I ever went was like 2 months and it was pure hell the whole time...my god did I feel like a different person....so much Anxiety/Depression/Cognitive Decline...Headaches, you name it.....
Have to say though I am glad to be off the Snuff/dip though, as much as I will always miss it you know....
Again. .. you are NOT QUIT. You can't say shit. You have no ground to stand on. You need to figure it out because you are confused as to what the rules of this place are.
I can say what I want you fucking punk/bitch I didn't know...go Fuck yourself.... fucking question me again bitch I will fuck you up, being off the dip alone for any length of time is unbelievable for me so shut the fuck up. I'm still working on the chaw.
Easy with the tough talk, and chest thumbing, Jr.
If you are chewing leaf tobacco, you haven't Quit anything yet. You are still ingesting nicotine, which, you are addicted to. So am I. That's why I won't have any today.
You need to read up on this site, and what we are really about. It's not about chew, dip, snuff, snus, cigarettes, or even vape. We are dedicated to helping addicts like you Quit their adicction from Nicotine. As it is, most of us used to use smokeless, which is where we get our name and our bond.
If you're looking for help in quitting, you are in absolutely THE best place to get the information, and help you desperately need.
If you are here to act tough, and be a general doosh, move along.
Start here. (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/55560/) Read everything you can. Then you decide. Until you've made your decision to Quit, and are a willing member of this community, kindly stay off the boards while you are still using.
-Nolaq
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It's tough man.....been without the snuff/dip for awhile now...as much as I want a damn big dip of Grizzly Wintergreen or some Copenhagen right now.... But instead take a big ass chaw of some good Levi Garrett or Redman Golden Blend, also got a plug of Days work haha,
I don't know how to be off nicotine totally man.....in roughly 10 years longest I ever went was like 2 months and it was pure hell the whole time...my god did I feel like a different person....so much Anxiety/Depression/Cognitive Decline...Headaches, you name it.....
Have to say though I am glad to be off the Snuff/dip though, as much as I will always miss it you know....
Again. .. you are NOT QUIT. You can't say shit. You have no ground to stand on. You need to figure it out because you are confused as to what the rules of this place are.
I can say what I want you fucking punk/bitch I didn't know...go Fuck yourself.... fucking question me again bitch I will fuck you up, being off the dip alone for any length of time is unbelievable for me so shut the fuck up. I'm still working on the chaw.
Easy with the tough talk, and chest thumbing, Jr.
If you are chewing leaf tobacco, you haven't Quit anything yet. You are still ingesting nicotine, which, you are addicted to. So am I. That's why I won't have any today.
You need to read up on this site, and what we are really about. It's not about chew, dip, snuff, snus, cigarettes, or even vape. We are dedicated to helping addicts like you Quit their adicction from Nicotine. As it is, most of us used to use smokeless, which is where we get our name and our bond.
If you're looking for help in quitting, you are in absolutely THE best place to get the information, and help you desperately need.
If you are here to act tough, and be a general doosh, move along.
Start here. (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/55560/) Read everything you can. Then you decide. Until you've made your decision to Quit, and are a willing member of this community, kindly stay off the boards while you are still using.
-Nolaq
Fuck man...I'm not here to act tough.... just mentioning how it sucks and rather extremely difficult to quit etc, and looking about others experiences/info how related to mine etc damn
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It's tough man.....been without the snuff/dip for awhile now...as much as I want a damn big dip of Grizzly Wintergreen or some Copenhagen right now.... But instead take a big ass chaw of some good Levi Garrett or Redman Golden Blend, also got a plug of Days work haha,
I don't know how to be off nicotine totally man.....in roughly 10 years longest I ever went was like 2 months and it was pure hell the whole time...my god did I feel like a different person....so much Anxiety/Depression/Cognitive Decline...Headaches, you name it.....
Have to say though I am glad to be off the Snuff/dip though, as much as I will always miss it you know....
Again. .. you are NOT QUIT. You can't say shit. You have no ground to stand on. You need to figure it out because you are confused as to what the rules of this place are.
I can say what I want you fucking punk/bitch I didn't know...go Fuck yourself.... fucking question me again bitch I will fuck you up, being off the dip alone for any length of time is unbelievable for me so shut the fuck up. I'm still working on the chaw.
Easy with the tough talk, and chest thumbing, Jr.
If you are chewing leaf tobacco, you haven't Quit anything yet. You are still ingesting nicotine, which, you are addicted to. So am I. That's why I won't have any today.
You need to read up on this site, and what we are really about. It's not about chew, dip, snuff, snus, cigarettes, or even vape. We are dedicated to helping addicts like you Quit their adicction from Nicotine. As it is, most of us used to use smokeless, which is where we get our name and our bond.
If you're looking for help in quitting, you are in absolutely THE best place to get the information, and help you desperately need.
If you are here to act tough, and be a general doosh, move along.
Start here. (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/55560/) Read everything you can. Then you decide. Until you've made your decision to Quit, and are a willing member of this community, kindly stay off the boards while you are still using.
-Nolaq
Fuck man...I'm not here to act tough.... just mentioning how it sucks and rather extremely difficult to quit etc, and looking about others experiences/info how related to mine etc damn
Well, then, as I suggested, let's Quit.
That means you get rid of anything you have with nicotine in it. Right now. Let's see how much you want this.
That includes Levi, Lancaster, Red Man, Days O' Work, EVERYTHING. You may not replace dip with nicorette, lozenges, patches, or e-cigs.
We are a Cold Turkey forum, and as long as you are using nicotine, you are not permitted access to our forums.
So what's going to be? Are you flushing your entire stash right now and Quitting, or are you going to lurk for another three months and not man up?
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It's tough man.....been without the snuff/dip for awhile now...as much as I want a damn big dip of Grizzly Wintergreen or some Copenhagen right now.... But instead take a big ass chaw of some good Levi Garrett or Redman Golden Blend, also got a plug of Days work haha,
I don't know how to be off nicotine totally man.....in roughly 10 years longest I ever went was like 2 months and it was pure hell the whole time...my god did I feel like a different person....so much Anxiety/Depression/Cognitive Decline...Headaches, you name it.....
Have to say though I am glad to be off the Snuff/dip though, as much as I will always miss it you know....
Again. .. you are NOT QUIT. You can't say shit. You have no ground to stand on. You need to figure it out because you are confused as to what the rules of this place are.
I can say what I want you fucking punk/bitch I didn't know...go Fuck yourself.... fucking question me again bitch I will fuck you up, being off the dip alone for any length of time is unbelievable for me so shut the fuck up. I'm still working on the chaw.
Easy with the tough talk, and chest thumbing, Jr.
If you are chewing leaf tobacco, you haven't Quit anything yet. You are still ingesting nicotine, which, you are addicted to. So am I. That's why I won't have any today.
You need to read up on this site, and what we are really about. It's not about chew, dip, snuff, snus, cigarettes, or even vape. We are dedicated to helping addicts like you Quit their adicction from Nicotine. As it is, most of us used to use smokeless, which is where we get our name and our bond.
If you're looking for help in quitting, you are in absolutely THE best place to get the information, and help you desperately need.
If you are here to act tough, and be a general doosh, move along.
Start here. (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/55560/) Read everything you can. Then you decide. Until you've made your decision to Quit, and are a willing member of this community, kindly stay off the boards while you are still using.
-Nolaq
Fuck man...I'm not here to act tough.... just mentioning how it sucks and rather extremely difficult to quit etc, and looking about others experiences/info how related to mine etc damn
Well, then, as I suggested, let's Quit.
That means you get rid of anything you have with nicotine in it. Right now. Let's see how much you want this.
That includes Levi, Lancaster, Red Man, Days O' Work, EVERYTHING. You may not replace dip with nicorette, lozenges, patches, or e-cigs.
We are a Cold Turkey forum, and as long as you are using nicotine, you are not permitted access to our forums.
So what's going to be? Are you flushing your entire stash right now and Quitting, or are you going to lurk for another three months and not man up?
'tough'
Doesn't sound like JR is someone that's ready to quit. And you can't force them to see the light.
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I hate missing red hot troll action......
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Hi all,
So I just bought some tobacco-free Herbal snuff that I saw recommended here called Smokey Mountain. I put some in and immediately started to almost feel a buzz and a sense of relief come over me. there is no nicotine or tobacco in it so it can't be a real buzz right? I haven't felt a nicotine buzz in years so i'm confused. has anyone experienced this? Is it just my mind playing tricks on me because it is so similar in look and texture to real dip? Any help would be appreciated.
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Hi all,
So I just bought some tobacco-free Herbal snuff that I saw recommended here called Smokey Mountain. I put some in and immediately started to almost feel a buzz and a sense of relief come over me. there is no nicotine or tobacco in it so it can't be a real buzz right? I haven't felt a nicotine buzz in years so i'm confused. has anyone experienced this? Is it just my mind playing tricks on me because it is so similar in look and texture to real dip? Any help would be appreciated.
That's exactly what it is brother. Your mind is still very conditioned to nicotine, and it is "looking" for it in your mouth. Smokey mountain has helped me with my quit as much as KTC has. In fact, I could not have done this quit, without either of them. Good luck with your quit IL.
PM me if you need digits and want to talk.
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It doesn't matter what status you have in life, if you're a using addict, you'll lie to yourself and others.
http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in ... e-at-white (http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/225298-source-billy-joel-says-obama-invited-him-for-a-smoke-at-white)
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Good morning guys! Day 13 for me today. Actually the main issue I am having is not being able to sleep. Even prior to quitting, I had problems, but I could take Melatonin and sleep for 8 hours. Now, I take it and I am up off and on all night and finally get out of bed after about 5 hours and start over and do the same thing the next night. Anyone else experience this?
I still get the craving, but not too bad. I am afraid of getting the Herbal stuff because I am scared it will give me the real craving back for the real stuff. Any input on this?
Thanks.
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Good morning guys! Day 13 for me today. Actually the main issue I am having is not being able to sleep. Even prior to quitting, I had problems, but I could take Melatonin and sleep for 8 hours. Now, I take it and I am up off and on all night and finally get out of bed after about 5 hours and start over and do the same thing the next night. Anyone else experience this?
I still get the craving, but not too bad. I am afraid of getting the Herbal stuff because I am scared it will give me the real craving back for the real stuff. Any input on this?
Thanks.
bowman, not sure if this will help or not but,when I quit(31 days ago), I immediately started chewing smokey mountain. I honestly have not craved a chew since I quit. I also did not sleep one wink, for the first 72 hours of my quit. I now fall asleep almost immediately when I go to bed at night but, I also wake at 4:00 AM every day, which I do not want to do. I am hoping the waking prob gets better as my quit goes on, because almost all other aspects seem to do so.
I hopes this helps at least a little bit. Take care brother!
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I've had the same problem. Talk to your doctor, he might give you a temporary script for a sleeping pill to get you through the tough nights. I'd imagine trying to get through a quit with no sleep would make it easier to cave, which is the last thing you want.
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I've had the same problem. Talk to your doctor, he might give you a temporary script for a sleeping pill to get you through the tough nights. I'd imagine trying to get through a quit with no sleep would make it easier to cave, which is the last thing you want.
Thats good advice and reminds me that I took zzzquill after the third night too, and that it really helped me get to sleep but, it did not keep me from waking so early either. I think it was a week later, that I just stopped taking the zzzquill and fell asleep fine without it. Everyone is different so maybe a prescribed sleeping pill would be right for you temporarily. Getting lots of sleep could only make it easier to get through the first stages of your quit.
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I've had the same problem. Talk to your doctor, he might give you a temporary script for a sleeping pill to get you through the tough nights. I'd imagine trying to get through a quit with no sleep would make it easier to cave, which is the last thing you want.
Thats good advice and reminds me that I took zzzquill after the third night too, and that it really helped me get to sleep but, it did not keep me from waking so early either. I think it was a week later, that I just stopped taking the zzzquill and fell asleep fine without it. Everyone is different so maybe a prescribed sleeping pill would be right for you temporarily. Getting lots of sleep could only make it easier to get through the first stages of your quit.
for me benadryl did the trick. Some also use melatonin.
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i decided to quit dipping for sure yesterday and i threw my cans in the trash... then i felt like dipping so bad i dug thru the trash to get a can and threw another dip in.. i feel like a fucking fiend its riduculous, as much as i want to quit permanently i couldnt help myself fuck i feel like a crackhead or something with this
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I've had the same problem. Talk to your doctor, he might give you a temporary script for a sleeping pill to get you through the tough nights. I'd imagine trying to get through a quit with no sleep would make it easier to cave, which is the last thing you want.
Thats good advice and reminds me that I took zzzquill after the third night too, and that it really helped me get to sleep but, it did not keep me from waking so early either. I think it was a week later, that I just stopped taking the zzzquill and fell asleep fine without it. Everyone is different so maybe a prescribed sleeping pill would be right for you temporarily. Getting lots of sleep could only make it easier to get through the first stages of your quit.
for me benadryl did the trick. Some also use melatonin.
I didn't know this, but zzzquil actually is a liquid form of Benadryl.
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I've had the same problem. Talk to your doctor, he might give you a temporary script for a sleeping pill to get you through the tough nights. I'd imagine trying to get through a quit with no sleep would make it easier to cave, which is the last thing you want.
Thats good advice and reminds me that I took zzzquill after the third night too, and that it really helped me get to sleep but, it did not keep me from waking so early either. I think it was a week later, that I just stopped taking the zzzquill and fell asleep fine without it. Everyone is different so maybe a prescribed sleeping pill would be right for you temporarily. Getting lots of sleep could only make it easier to get through the first stages of your quit.
for me benadryl did the trick. Some also use melatonin.
I didn't know this, but zzzquil actually is a liquid form of Benadryl.
Apologize if Thanksgiving seems to be the wrong time to post this....
Lots of discomfort occurs in the early days of quit, even after nicotine leaves our bodies, the craves continue for a while and we experience other symptoms that make quitting inconvenient... Just like the aforementioned interruption of sleep.
Consider that we can take some zzzquil, melatonin, or benadryl.... and get some relief.
For some, there is no relief from the symptoms caused by nicotine addiction....
topic/10394517/1/#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/10394517/1/#new)
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I've had the same problem. Talk to your doctor, he might give you a temporary script for a sleeping pill to get you through the tough nights. I'd imagine trying to get through a quit with no sleep would make it easier to cave, which is the last thing you want.
Thats good advice and reminds me that I took zzzquill after the third night too, and that it really helped me get to sleep but, it did not keep me from waking so early either. I think it was a week later, that I just stopped taking the zzzquill and fell asleep fine without it. Everyone is different so maybe a prescribed sleeping pill would be right for you temporarily. Getting lots of sleep could only make it easier to get through the first stages of your quit.
for me benadryl did the trick. Some also use melatonin.
I didn't know this, but zzzquil actually is a liquid form of Benadryl.
Apologize if Thanksgiving seems to be the wrong time to post this....
Lots of discomfort occurs in the early days of quit, even after nicotine leaves our bodies, the craves continue for a while and we experience other symptoms that make quitting inconvenient... Just like the aforementioned interruption of sleep.
Consider that we can take some zzzquil, melatonin, or benadryl.... and get some relief.
For some, there is no relief from the symptoms caused by nicotine addiction....
topic/10394517/1/#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/10394517/1/#new)
Wow, good post! What I still can't understand is why in the hell I ever started chewing that shit to begin with. I may never find the answer to that in my lifetime. Thanks for sharing that 30!
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i decided to quit dipping for sure yesterday and i threw my cans in the trash... then i felt like dipping so bad i dug thru the trash to get a can and threw another dip in.. i feel like a fucking fiend its riduculous, as much as i want to quit permanently i couldnt help myself fuck i feel like a crackhead or something with this
flush that crap down the toilet. Brother, I know this is incredibly hard to do, but you have to pick your date and quit. you've gotta get through the first few days and it gets a bit easier. It's your life after all. There are a lot of resources on this site to help you. reach out to a senior member if you need help.
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flush that crap down the toilet. Brother, I know this is incredibly hard to do, but you have to pick your date and quit. you've gotta get through the first few days and it gets a bit easier. It's your life after all. There are a lot of resources on this site to help you. reach out to a senior member if you need help.
i didnt dip at all today. i feel really on edge. i been drinking like a motherfucker to cope w no dip. the alcohol helps but still i really want dip. i am going to man up for the next few days
also i had no idea it would be so hard to quit dip. it really fuckin sux, i always thought i could stop whenever. not so easy after all
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flush that crap down the toilet. Brother, I know this is incredibly hard to do, but you have to pick your date and quit. you've gotta get through the first few days and it gets a bit easier. It's your life after all. There are a lot of resources on this site to help you. reach out to a senior member if you need help.
i didnt dip at all today. i feel really on edge. i been drinking like a motherfucker to cope w no dip. the alcohol helps but still i really want dip. i am going to man up for the next few days
also i had no idea it would be so hard to quit dip. it really fuckin sux, i always thought i could stop whenever. not so easy after all
Repeat: flush the shit now!
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flush that crap down the toilet. Brother, I know this is incredibly hard to do, but you have to pick your date and quit. you've gotta get through the first few days and it gets a bit easier. It's your life after all. There are a lot of resources on this site to help you. reach out to a senior member if you need help.
i didnt dip at all today. i feel really on edge. i been drinking like a motherfucker to cope w no dip. the alcohol helps but still i really want dip. i am going to man up for the next few days
also i had no idea it would be so hard to quit dip. it really fuckin sux, i always thought i could stop whenever. not so easy after all
Good job bud! I'm pretty dang proud of you for getting through the day. That's how you have to approach it though, just one day at a time. Don't worry about next month, or next week, just focus on getting through today. Stay strong bro.
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Yep this sucks. I can deal with this, but I'm especially worried about not sleeping. Had cold sweats last night that kept me up for a little bit. Today has been a little worse. Ended up sleeping with no blankets. Anyone else deal with this? How did you end up dealing with this?
This is doable. Feeling confident.
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Yep this sucks. I can deal with this, but I'm especially worried about not sleeping. Had cold sweats last night that kept me up for a little bit. Today has been a little worse. Ended up sleeping with no blankets. Anyone else deal with this? How did you end up dealing with this?
This is doable. Feeling confident.
ZZZZQuill was the only way I could deal with it, for the first week or so.
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I'm going to start being a quitter tomorrow after having my third fight in the past 4 months over tobacco with my beloved girlfriend this evening .
Please send me some resources and your support as I know I'll be needing them greatly! Thank you! KK Mich
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im almost thru day 3 and now Im feeling more confident as well. i still feel like a dip would be really nice but today wasnt as bad as the first 2 days. I would say the hardest thing is my sleeping schedule has got so messed up. having a hard time falling asleep, nightmares, and just not good sleep. then waking up and wanting to dip. its definitely doable u just gotta hang for a while i guess. im sure it will be alot better in a few more days from what i have read. what i find helps are caffiene, alcohol, and exercise. and think dont be tobaccos bitch
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I'm going to start being a quitter tomorrow after having my third fight in the past 4 months over tobacco with my beloved girlfriend this evening .
Please send me some resources and your support as I know I'll be needing them greatly! Thank you! KK Mich
The resources are all around you, my friend.
Our program begins and ends with posting roll (promising not to use nicotine today). We promise each other, and we keep our words. We just keep repeating this over and over and over again using the people and knowledge here to keep that promise.
My best advice to you is to strap in, quit, and post a day one in our March 2015 group. Plan to drink a ton of water these first few days. Limit your caffeine as many find it to be quite potent right now. Exercise is awesome for the quit as you need to push this poison out of your system (sweat and the water do this). Have a supply of seeds, gums, herbal snuffs, etc on hand and ready. You don't want to plan when your world is collapsing around you in a crave. You just want to reach for your weapons.
Most importantly, post up. Make some friends. WE're all walking the same path as you are today. Some of us have just been here before. We can show you the path. We can show you the signs. But you have to make the journey.
Got your back in this battle man.
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im almost thru day 3 and now Im feeling more confident as well. i still feel like a dip would be really nice but today wasnt as bad as the first 2 days. I would say the hardest thing is my sleeping schedule has got so messed up. having a hard time falling asleep, nightmares, and just not good sleep. then waking up and wanting to dip. its definitely doable u just gotta hang for a while i guess. im sure it will be alot better in a few more days from what i have read. what i find helps are caffiene, alcohol, and exercise. and think dont be tobaccos bitch
Nice man.
Now, if you want us to hold you accountable to your word...post roll. This shit is hard sometimes, and we are our own worst enemies. I know that when I'm left to my own devices, I fail. That's why I'm here. I want these badasses to keep me quit. This place rocks, and we're the best at what we do here: Quitting.
The absolute worst thing to me in that first week of quitting was the night sweats. Ugh. I went through so many sheets and woke up every night at 3:30 am wide awake and soaked. I never want to go through that again, but luckily, I won't have to. I control my own actions and there is no way I'm forgetting how bad that was and putting myself in a position to use (and then have to subsequently withdraw). Never again.
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im almost thru day 3 and now Im feeling more confident as well. i still feel like a dip would be really nice but today wasnt as bad as the first 2 days. I would say the hardest thing is my sleeping schedule has got so messed up. having a hard time falling asleep, nightmares, and just not good sleep. then waking up and wanting to dip. its definitely doable u just gotta hang for a while i guess. im sure it will be alot better in a few more days from what i have read. what i find helps are caffiene, alcohol, and exercise. and think dont be tobaccos bitch
Nice man.
Now, if you want us to hold you accountable to your word...post roll. This shit is hard sometimes, and we are our own worst enemies. I know that when I'm left to my own devices, I fail. That's why I'm here. I want these badasses to keep me quit. This place rocks, and we're the best at what we do here: Quitting.
The absolute worst thing to me in that first week of quitting was the night sweats. Ugh. I went through so many sheets and woke up every night at 3:30 am wide awake and soaked. I never want to go through that again, but luckily, I won't have to. I control my own actions and there is no way I'm forgetting how bad that was and putting myself in a position to use (and then have to subsequently withdraw). Never again.
Yep I'm on Day 3 now, and I can definitely say that the sleep part has been the worst. Last night I had the worst sleep I've had in a long time.
The day really isn't that bad. I gotta watch my triggers, and prepare for when I've relapsed before (on really bad days/ stressful days). But I have this fake stuff that's been keeping the oral fixation part at bay.
So yeah, for me it's been uncomfortable, but easy.
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Dear Lurker: I am just about a week ahead of you. It was about day 8 when I finally got a halfway acceptable night of sleep. I often felt nauseated at night. (I did not expect such a reaction.) As others say, keep up the promise just one day at a time. If you are like me, the sleep will get better next week. Feel free to send a PM if you need any encouragemt or thoughts.
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Planning on quitting next week, I chew Grizzly Wintergreen, any ideas on best non tobacco chew for me?
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Planning on quitting next week, I chew Grizzly Wintergreen, any ideas on best non tobacco chew for me?
First question - why wait till next week? What do you think is going to be different next week?
You cold dump your stash out and flush it now...then next week, you will be one week Quit.
How about making your Day 1 happen right now? Now is very powerful.
You will not regret it. Promise.
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Planning on quitting next week, I chew Grizzly Wintergreen, any ideas on best non tobacco chew for me?
First question - why wait till next week? What do you think is going to be different next week?
You cold dump your stash out and flush it now...then next week, you will be one week Quit.
How about making your Day 1 happen right now? Now is very powerful.
You will not regret it. Promise.
I agree, Why Wait. that said, you've gotta be ready, and you have to really want it.
I also dipped grizzly wintergreen longcut, and I've been using the smokey mountain Wintergreen. It's not an exact match, but it's close enough that I actually felt a fake "buzz" the first time I put one in on day 4. Honestly, I try to keep it to a minimum, even with the fake stuff, 1 or 2 per day. but even if you have to do it all day long, it's better than going back to grizzly, That bitch has sharp claws. :)
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im almost thru day 3 and now Im feeling more confident as well. i still feel like a dip would be really nice but today wasnt as bad as the first 2 days. I would say the hardest thing is my sleeping schedule has got so messed up. having a hard time falling asleep, nightmares, and just not good sleep. then waking up and wanting to dip. its definitely doable u just gotta hang for a while i guess. im sure it will be alot better in a few more days from what i have read. what i find helps are caffiene, alcohol, and exercise. and think dont be tobaccos bitch
Awesome work!! I Knew you could get through it. Keep it up and Stay Strong. Please be careful with the Alcohol though, that can certainly be an addictive substance as well. Do what you need to stay off the dip, but don't let that shit take you over. .....and please, no Drinking and driving!
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Hey folks, I'm on day 2.5 and was wondering if anyone has ever lost their appetite from quitting? Been reading a lot about gaining weight but my gut is so knotted up right now I have to force myself to eat. Anyone had this? Maybe I just need to wait it out.
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Hey folks, I'm on day 2.5 and was wondering if anyone has ever lost their appetite from quitting? Been reading a lot about gaining weight but my gut is so knotted up right now I have to force myself to eat. Anyone had this? Maybe I just need to wait it out.
You are in the thick of it now. Stay strong, day by day, even hour by hour. At about your time, I felt horrible all day, headaches, as if I had a mild flue or cold, and nausiated. I don't remember all the details, but I do remember having dinners consisting of oatmeal and fruit. (Helps with the digestion issues.)
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Hey folks, I'm on day 2.5 and was wondering if anyone has ever lost their appetite from quitting? Been reading a lot about gaining weight but my gut is so knotted up right now I have to force myself to eat. Anyone had this? Maybe I just need to wait it out.
You are in the thick of it now. Stay strong, day by day, even hour by hour. At about your time, I felt horrible all day, headaches, as if I had a mild flue or cold, and nausiated. I don't remember all the details, but I do remember having dinners consisting of oatmeal and fruit. (Helps with the digestion issues.)
CM - agree with stat you are in the thick of it. I could not eat either. I was walking around like a zombie or curled up on the bitch for the first week. Could not eat, could not sleep and could not take a crap to save my life. I remember packing my lip with coffee grounds and just searching for a feeling of normalcy. That was 700 days ago. It gets better bro. Stay the course. You have to fight for freedom right now but it is so worth it.
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Hey folks, I'm on day 2.5 and was wondering if anyone has ever lost their appetite from quitting? Been reading a lot about gaining weight but my gut is so knotted up right now I have to force myself to eat. Anyone had this? Maybe I just need to wait it out.
You are in the thick of it now. Stay strong, day by day, even hour by hour. At about your time, I felt horrible all day, headaches, as if I had a mild flue or cold, and nausiated. I don't remember all the details, but I do remember having dinners consisting of oatmeal and fruit. (Helps with the digestion issues.)
CM - agree with stat you are in the thick of it. I could not eat either. I was walking around like a zombie or curled up on the bitch for the first week. Could not eat, could not sleep and could not take a crap to save my life. I remember packing my lip with coffee grounds and just searching for a feeling of normalcy. That was 700 days ago. It gets better bro. Stay the course. You have to fight for freedom right now but it is so worth it.
Fuckin' A. What these guys said. I was completely worthless in the beginning. I couldn't see straight. Everything was blurry, and I have better than 20/20 vision. I also wandered around as if I was drunk, all day. Stumbling, staggering, couldn't complete a coherent sentence.
But it passed. And then there was a clarity that I can't explain, except to say, the freedom I have now was so worth the battle it took to get here. Day 1,726 today. Worth every struggle, and I would never give it up. Quitting is SO worth it! Focus on today. Focus on the NOW.
You can do this. I'm nothing special. If I can, you can.
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Hey folks, I'm on day 2.5 and was wondering if anyone has ever lost their appetite from quitting? Been reading a lot about gaining weight but my gut is so knotted up right now I have to force myself to eat. Anyone had this? Maybe I just need to wait it out.
You are in the thick of it now. Stay strong, day by day, even hour by hour. At about your time, I felt horrible all day, headaches, as if I had a mild flue or cold, and nausiated. I don't remember all the details, but I do remember having dinners consisting of oatmeal and fruit. (Helps with the digestion issues.)
CM - agree with stat you are in the thick of it. I could not eat either. I was walking around like a zombie or curled up on the bitch for the first week. Could not eat, could not sleep and could not take a crap to save my life. I remember packing my lip with coffee grounds and just searching for a feeling of normalcy. That was 700 days ago. It gets better bro. Stay the course. You have to fight for freedom right now but it is so worth it.
Fuckin' A. What these guys said. I was completely worthless in the beginning. I couldn't see straight. Everything was blurry, and I have better than 20/20 vision. I also wandered around as if I was drunk, all day. Stumbling, staggering, couldn't complete a coherent sentence.
But it passed. And then there was a clarity that I can't explain, except to say, the freedom I have now was so worth the battle it took to get here. Day 1,726 today. Worth every struggle, and I would never give it up. Quitting is SO worth it! Focus on today. Focus on the NOW.
You can do this. I'm nothing special. If I can, you can.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^2,285 days quit here after being a nic slave for over 30 years!!! If my sorry weak ass can stay quit SO CAN YOU!!!! Best decision you will ever make!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Thanks Folks!!!! Day 3 for me now. Still feeling crappy, but nowhere near as bad as yesterday. Got a can of SmokeyMtn. and as per a suggestion I read on here, added some extra cayenne to it. Man does it ever help!!!!! Still foggy as hell but thanks to all you wonderful people, I now believe I can do this!! Off to post roll, one more day bitches!!!!!!!!!!
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Thanks Folks!!!! Day 3 for me now. Still feeling crappy, but nowhere near as bad as yesterday. Got a can of SmokeyMtn. and as per a suggestion I read on here, added some extra cayenne to it. Man does it ever help!!!!! Still foggy as hell but thanks to all you wonderful people, I now believe I can do this!! Off to post roll, one more day bitches!!!!!!!!!!
Great work buddy, make sure to drink a lot of water to flush out the nicotine!
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day 7 and its starting to get alot easier. its helped reading the posts on here. for me it got easier around day 4 or 5, now its not physical withdraw so much... i still have cravings but not so bad overall. nothing like the first 2 to 3 days. if you can hang in there for 5 days then ur tough, the rest is staying focused with it. at this point im trying to keep myself from buying more
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day 7 and its starting to get alot easier. its helped reading the posts on here. for me it got easier around day 4 or 5, now its not physical withdraw so much... i still have cravings but not so bad overall. nothing like the first 2 to 3 days. if you can hang in there for 5 days then ur tough, the rest is staying focused with it. at this point im trying to keep myself from buying more
Good deal gr888. Every day is a victory and every day gets a little easier. Check out March 2015, introduce yourself and post roll. Posting roll is the foundation of KTC.
topic/10761232/100/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/10761232/100/)
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I'm very happy to see this.
Quote :Rutroh
"The moderators and administrators of this site have received numerous complaints regarding negative, destructive, and/or attacking posts made in several of the quit groups. It has never been the intention of anyone involved with this site to censor or govern what can or cannot be posted on this site. However, we now believe some guidelines are necessary to maintain the integrity and effectiveness of this site.
We take the sanctity of the quit group as being something that a quitter should be able to enjoy and utilize. In our three year existance, each individual group has developed its own personality and coping mechanisms. Outside influences, when constructive and supportive, are and have always been welcome and encouraged. Viciously negative, personal attacking, undermining and destructive posts in quit groups, especially groups "above the line" are not needed and will no longer be tolerated.
We will enforce the same standards regarding the chat room. When a violation of the guidelines or rules are discovered or reported, the post or chat log in question will be reviewed and a determination by a majority of the administrators will be made. Enforcement can include anywhere from a written warning, being placed on moderator review for all posts, to being banned from the site and or chat room.
This does not include holding a quitter accountable for keeping their word to others in the group... (ie.. caves), and the forum "Get Your Bitch On" in the wildcard section.
This decision has been reached unanimously by the adminstrators, who work hard at providing a quality quit site for the people who need it. Our expectations are that you will honor this decision and help us maintain this site where anyone can frequent with the highest level of support while enjoying the greatest level of freedom of expression"
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I'm very happy to see this.
Quote :Rutroh
"The moderators and administrators of this site have received numerous complaints regarding negative, destructive, and/or attacking posts made in several of the quit groups. It has never been the intention of anyone involved with this site to censor or govern what can or cannot be posted on this site. However, we now believe some guidelines are necessary to maintain the integrity and effectiveness of this site.
We take the sanctity of the quit group as being something that a quitter should be able to enjoy and utilize. In our three year existance, each individual group has developed its own personality and coping mechanisms. Outside influences, when constructive and supportive, are and have always been welcome and encouraged. Viciously negative, personal attacking, undermining and destructive posts in quit groups, especially groups "above the line" are not needed and will no longer be tolerated.
We will enforce the same standards regarding the chat room. When a violation of the guidelines or rules are discovered or reported, the post or chat log in question will be reviewed and a determination by a majority of the administrators will be made. Enforcement can include anywhere from a written warning, being placed on moderator review for all posts, to being banned from the site and or chat room.
This does not include holding a quitter accountable for keeping their word to others in the group... (ie.. caves), and the forum "Get Your Bitch On" in the wildcard section.
This decision has been reached unanimously by the adminstrators, who work hard at providing a quality quit site for the people who need it. Our expectations are that you will honor this decision and help us maintain this site where anyone can frequent with the highest level of support while enjoying the greatest level of freedom of expression"
I saw this and thought the same thing MJ.
Then, a number of hours later... It was pulled and doesn't exist anymore.
Why?
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I'm very happy to see this.
Quote :Rutroh
"The moderators and administrators of this site have received numerous complaints regarding negative, destructive, and/or attacking posts made in several of the quit groups. It has never been the intention of anyone involved with this site to censor or govern what can or cannot be posted on this site. However, we now believe some guidelines are necessary to maintain the integrity and effectiveness of this site.
We take the sanctity of the quit group as being something that a quitter should be able to enjoy and utilize. In our three year existance, each individual group has developed its own personality and coping mechanisms. Outside influences, when constructive and supportive, are and have always been welcome and encouraged. Viciously negative, personal attacking, undermining and destructive posts in quit groups, especially groups "above the line" are not needed and will no longer be tolerated.
We will enforce the same standards regarding the chat room. When a violation of the guidelines or rules are discovered or reported, the post or chat log in question will be reviewed and a determination by a majority of the administrators will be made. Enforcement can include anywhere from a written warning, being placed on moderator review for all posts, to being banned from the site and or chat room.
This does not include holding a quitter accountable for keeping their word to others in the group... (ie.. caves), and the forum "Get Your Bitch On" in the wildcard section.
This decision has been reached unanimously by the adminstrators, who work hard at providing a quality quit site for the people who need it. Our expectations are that you will honor this decision and help us maintain this site where anyone can frequent with the highest level of support while enjoying the greatest level of freedom of expression"
I saw this and thought the same thing MJ.
Then, a number of hours later... It was pulled and doesn't exist anymore.
Why?
it is not pulled. It has been moved to the quit groups section.
Carry on, gentlemen.
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I'm very happy to see this.
Quote :Rutroh
"The moderators and administrators of this site have received numerous complaints regarding negative, destructive, and/or attacking posts made in several of the quit groups. It has never been the intention of anyone involved with this site to censor or govern what can or cannot be posted on this site. However, we now believe some guidelines are necessary to maintain the integrity and effectiveness of this site.
We take the sanctity of the quit group as being something that a quitter should be able to enjoy and utilize. In our three year existance, each individual group has developed its own personality and coping mechanisms. Outside influences, when constructive and supportive, are and have always been welcome and encouraged. Viciously negative, personal attacking, undermining and destructive posts in quit groups, especially groups "above the line" are not needed and will no longer be tolerated.
We will enforce the same standards regarding the chat room. When a violation of the guidelines or rules are discovered or reported, the post or chat log in question will be reviewed and a determination by a majority of the administrators will be made. Enforcement can include anywhere from a written warning, being placed on moderator review for all posts, to being banned from the site and or chat room.
This does not include holding a quitter accountable for keeping their word to others in the group... (ie.. caves), and the forum "Get Your Bitch On" in the wildcard section.
This decision has been reached unanimously by the adminstrators, who work hard at providing a quality quit site for the people who need it. Our expectations are that you will honor this decision and help us maintain this site where anyone can frequent with the highest level of support while enjoying the greatest level of freedom of expression"
I saw this and thought the same thing MJ.
Then, a number of hours later... It was pulled and doesn't exist anymore.
Why?
it is not pulled. It has been moved to the quit groups section.
Carry on, gentlemen.
Will it have any impact on the HOF roasts? I need to know if, as a roaster, I need to pull the throttles back a hair.
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On day 6 of quitting. have some sores on my tongue that are really bothering me. most people never knew how much i dipped in the first place so no one really understands just how brutal my withdrawal symptoms have been. really starting to wear on me. not that i want to go back to the can, but i just want it to be over.
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Dear Indiana: I am about 2 weeks ahead of you. The most intense days are over for you, but you still have a tough period to go because it starts to feel like a marathon. Hang in there, one day at a time! Based on my experience, your body is rebalancing, and you may be a few days or a week to getting a good night of sleep.
As far as the mouth sores.... I experiences dry mouth and throat, and a bag of Ricola cough drops was comforting to me.
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Does anyone have any recommendations for remedies to provide relief from sores on tongue?
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Does anyone have any recommendations for remedies to provide relief from sores on tongue?
Gargle with some salt water. Watch out with all the seeds. Push through it.
In my experience, the sores go away pretty quickly. If they don't (and hang around a week), go see a doctor.
What tools are you using to quit?
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Does anyone have any recommendations for remedies to provide relief from sores on tongue?
Soak it in cider.
(say it fast)
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Does anyone have any recommendations for remedies to provide relief from sores on tongue?
Soak it in cider.
(say it fast)
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that's funny.
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Does anyone have any recommendations for remedies to provide relief from sores on tongue?
Gargle with some salt water. Watch out with all the seeds. Push through it.
In my experience, the sores go away pretty quickly. If they don't (and hang around a week), go see a doctor.
What tools are you using to quit?
Salt water is good, but actually will not help with the pain... this will help heal, but may hurt.
After you do the salt water (which I think is a great idea) you may want to go with some milk. Essentially, go with something that will "coat" your tongue the same way you would if you were eating hot wings.
Welcome by they way... from a fellow Hoosier.
#Hoosier4Life
chewie
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Don't have experience with sores on tongue but was thinking maybe or oragel or other toothache numbing stuff from the pharmacy? Hang in there, we got this!!
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31 days in. Feel like I'm losing my sense of taste? Is that normal? Thanks brothers
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31 days in. Feel like I'm losing my sense of taste? Is that normal? Thanks brothers
I don't know about 'normal' but certainly understandable.
Everyone is different. I had issues with my vision. I have better than 20/20, but for the first couple hundred days, I would literally see a fog almost all the time. Blury vision on the peripheral. It went away eventually.
Some guys experience headaches, some anxiety or depression, some can't sleep. I don't think your lack of taste is anything to necessarily worry about, but just know this: this is your body healing after how ever many years you poisoned yourself.
I dipped for 29 years. That's a lot of voluntarily addind a poison to my system, and it takes a long time to have your system reset. While the nicotine may leave the body after three days, your central nervous system is trying to un-fuck all the damage that has been done. It takes time.
Remember that the only thing nicotine does for you is relieves the symptoms of quitting. It fixes nothing.
Remember these feelings, too. You don't want to ever go through this again, do you?
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31 days in. Feel like I'm losing my sense of taste? Is that normal? Thanks brothers
I don't know about 'normal' but certainly understandable.
Everyone is different. I had issues with my vision. I have better than 20/20, but for the first couple hundred days, I would literally see a fog almost all the time. Blury vision on the peripheral. It went away eventually.
Some guys experience headaches, some anxiety or depression, some can't sleep. I don't think your lack of taste is anything to necessarily worry about, but just know this: this is your body healing after how ever many years you poisoned yourself.
I dipped for 29 years. That's a lot of voluntarily addind a poison to my system, and it takes a long time to have your system reset. While the nicotine may leave the body after three days, your central nervous system is trying to un-fuck all the damage that has been done. It takes time.
Remember that the only thing nicotine does for you is relieves the symptoms of quitting. It fixes nothing.
Remember these feelings, too. You don't want to ever go through this again, do you?
^^^^^^^ He speaks the truth!!!! Funny thing my taste buds came alive after I quit and I have larger mid-section to show for it unfortunately.
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31 days in. Feel like I'm losing my sense of taste? Is that normal? Thanks brothers
I don't know about 'normal' but certainly understandable.
Everyone is different. I had issues with my vision. I have better than 20/20, but for the first couple hundred days, I would literally see a fog almost all the time. Blury vision on the peripheral. It went away eventually.
Some guys experience headaches, some anxiety or depression, some can't sleep. I don't think your lack of taste is anything to necessarily worry about, but just know this: this is your body healing after how ever many years you poisoned yourself.
I dipped for 29 years. That's a lot of voluntarily addind a poison to my system, and it takes a long time to have your system reset. While the nicotine may leave the body after three days, your central nervous system is trying to un-fuck all the damage that has been done. It takes time.
Remember that the only thing nicotine does for you is relieves the symptoms of quitting. It fixes nothing.
Remember these feelings, too. You don't want to ever go through this again, do you?
^^^^^^^ He speaks the truth!!!! Funny thing my taste buds came alive after I quit and I have larger mid-section to show for it unfortunately.
Mine came on strong too. From like day 35-55, it seemed like my mouth was watering. Really weird. Definitely a "symptom" of healing.
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New Blog Post: 3 Million Forum Posts – The Best Support System Available
http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/12/3-mi ... available/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/12/3-million-forum-posts-the-best-support-system-available/)
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New Blog Post: 3 Million Forum Posts – The Best Support System Available
http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/12/3-mi ... available/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/12/3-million-forum-posts-the-best-support-system-available/)
'wave' 'party2'
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New Blog Post: 3 Million Forum Posts – The Best Support System Available
http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/12/3-mi ... available/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/12/3-million-forum-posts-the-best-support-system-available/)
'wave' 'party2'
Quitter by quitter, post by post and brick by brick. Loving the new header.
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Is it Google or is it the forum. I can no longer cut and paste therefore I can no longer post roll with my phone. I noticed Google made some changes and I don't like those either
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props to Keddy on the new header... Well done, friend.
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Is it Google or is it the forum. I can no longer cut and paste therefore I can no longer post roll with my phone. I noticed Google made some changes and I don't like those either
working fine for me, must be something with the phone.
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props to Keddy on the new header... Well done, friend.
Yaaasss!!!!
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Is it Google or is it the forum. I can no longer cut and paste therefore I can no longer post roll with my phone. I noticed Google made some changes and I don't like those either
working fine for me, must be something with the phone.
What sort of phone? I know there have been issues with cut/paste on the iPhone after upgrading to the new version of the operating system. No changes have been made to the forums.
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Hi guys. I just started my quit. I'm on Day 14 and have found Jake's Mint Chew to be my saving grace a few times. Mymouth is in immense burning pain that I suppose is from the PH imbalance.
Is it too late to join the March 2015 quit group?
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Is it Google or is it the forum. I can no longer cut and paste therefore I can no longer post roll with my phone. I noticed Google made some changes and I don't like those either
working fine for me, must be something with the phone.
What sort of phone? I know there have been issues with cut/paste on the iPhone after upgrading to the new version of the operating system. No changes have been made to the forums.
Iphone 5C...fixin to be Iphone 5 Skeet.
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Hi guys. I just started my quit. I'm on Day 14 and have found Jake's Mint Chew to be my saving grace a few times. Mymouth is in immense burning pain that I suppose is from the PH imbalance.
Is it too late to join the March 2015 quit group?
Congrats on the 14 days. Go to PreHOF March 15 roll calll and introduce yourself to your quit brothers and post roll!
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Hi guys. I just started my quit. I'm on Day 14 and have found Jake's Mint Chew to be my saving grace a few times. Mymouth is in immense burning pain that I suppose is from the PH imbalance.
Is it too late to join the March 2015 quit group?
Congrats on the 14 days. Go to PreHOF March 15 roll calll and introduce yourself to your quit brothers and post roll!
Fourteen days solo is impressive.
It should get progressively better from where you are. But remain vigilant.
March is shaping up to be a great group.
Go visit, post roll, meet some folks.
Keep grinding on the quit.
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Hey everyone,
I'm new to the forum. I've slowly been taking myself off Camel Snus over the past week. I got a cold and figured it was the perfect opportunity to start slowly getting myself away from using. I think I'm one of the very few women on this website. I started using Snus in law school to get an extra pep when I studied. I quite for over a year after I got pregnant. Then I found myself starting back up once I started working. Now I work from home and I almost having one in my mouth all the time. My husband is the only one that knows that I use it. I know it's time to stop because I find myself worried every time I get a sore throat or cut up gums.
I hope it's okay that I ask this question here. I think most of my problem is I'm bored and want that extra pep. I'm thinking something like Teeza or Grinds would help me quit. Has anyone tried this? Are there any replacements that give the same cool burning sensations (that also don't require spitting). I am really ready to quit. I have cut my usage down by over half the past week so I'm thinking it's time to completely stop. My husband chews Grizzly Straight. He's hoping to quit so if you have any suggestions for alternatives for him, I'd take that as well. We want to quit together.
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Is it Google or is it the forum. I can no longer cut and paste therefore I can no longer post roll with my phone. I noticed Google made some changes and I don't like those either
working fine for me, must be something with the phone.
What sort of phone? I know there have been issues with cut/paste on the iPhone after upgrading to the new version of the operating system. No changes have been made to the forums.
Iphone 5C...fixin to be Iphone 5 Skeet.
The problem was related to Google. I offloaded Google, picked up Yahoo, and now I'm back to posting roll early with my IPhone. If anyone else is having the same issue, please let them know.
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Hey everyone,
I'm new to the forum. I've slowly been taking myself off Camel Snus over the past week. I got a cold and figured it was the perfect opportunity to start slowly getting myself away from using. I think I'm one of the very few women on this website. I started using Snus in law school to get an extra pep when I studied. I quite for over a year after I got pregnant. Then I found myself starting back up once I started working. Now I work from home and I almost having one in my mouth all the time. My husband is the only one that knows that I use it. I know it's time to stop because I find myself worried every time I get a sore throat or cut up gums.
I hope it's okay that I ask this question here. I think most of my problem is I'm bored and want that extra pep. I'm thinking something like Teeza or Grinds would help me quit. Has anyone tried this? Are there any replacements that give the same cool burning sensations (that also don't require spitting). I am really ready to quit. I have cut my usage down by over half the past week so I'm thinking it's time to completely stop. My husband chews Grizzly Straight. He's hoping to quit so if you have any suggestions for alternatives for him, I'd take that as well. We want to quit together.
Welcome Mrs. DIY. I can understand about the being bored thing, because I'd say about half the time, I'd put a dip in because I was bored or even slightly bored. It helped the time pass by. I'm not sure, but you could try the Teeza. For the cooling sensation, you could even use some of the gums out there, and just stick that in your gums.
I can't find fake dip around here, but I've been using Jack Link's Jerky Chew whenever I wanted the feeling of having a dip in. Works pretty good for me.
The biggest thing is making a QUALITY decision. A quality decision is one that there is no turning back, and no retreat from. Once you do that, it gets better.
I'd say, both of you get on here, READ EVERYTHING, post roll, and quit together. There is no plan B.
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Hey everyone,
I'm new to the forum. I've slowly been taking myself off Camel Snus over the past week. I got a cold and figured it was the perfect opportunity to start slowly getting myself away from using. I think I'm one of the very few women on this website. I started using Snus in law school to get an extra pep when I studied. I quite for over a year after I got pregnant. Then I found myself starting back up once I started working. Now I work from home and I almost having one in my mouth all the time. My husband is the only one that knows that I use it. I know it's time to stop because I find myself worried every time I get a sore throat or cut up gums.
I hope it's okay that I ask this question here. I think most of my problem is I'm bored and want that extra pep. I'm thinking something like Teeza or Grinds would help me quit. Has anyone tried this? Are there any replacements that give the same cool burning sensations (that also don't require spitting). I am really ready to quit. I have cut my usage down by over half the past week so I'm thinking it's time to completely stop. My husband chews Grizzly Straight. He's hoping to quit so if you have any suggestions for alternatives for him, I'd take that as well. We want to quit together.
Welcome Mrs. DIY. I can understand about the being bored thing, because I'd say about half the time, I'd put a dip in because I was bored or even slightly bored. It helped the time pass by. I'm not sure, but you could try the Teeza. For the cooling sensation, you could even use some of the gums out there, and just stick that in your gums.
I can't find fake dip around here, but I've been using Jack Link's Jerky Chew whenever I wanted the feeling of having a dip in. Works pretty good for me.
The biggest thing is making a QUALITY decision. A quality decision is one that there is no turning back, and no retreat from. Once you do that, it gets better.
I'd say, both of you get on here, READ EVERYTHING, post roll, and quit together. There is no plan B.
MrsDIY -
If you're looking for an alternative where you don't need to spit, Teaza is a good one. I'd also point you to Mint Snuff pouches. In theory you wouldnt' need to spit Grind either, but in my experience they produce a TON of saliv and at least for me personally I'd want to spit with that one.
As for your husband... straight flavors are tough to find a good alternative for. I was a Kodiak Wintergreen guy primarly so take this for what it's worth, but I'd suggest either Smokey Mountain Classic or Hooch Classic, Whiskey or Spitfire.
You can find further info reviews here: http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/smo ... ernatives/ (http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/smokeless-alternatives/)
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Hey all. 12 year dipper here that got up to about two cans a day at highest level. Quit cold turkey on November 14th and have feared oral cancer nonstop all last month. At least it helped me not notice the craves. Just got back from the dentist who told me my mouth is healthy (despite all the aches and sores). Anyway, fuck dip
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Hey all. 12 year dipper here that got up to about two cans a day at highest level. Quit cold turkey on November 14th and have feared oral cancer nonstop all last month. At least it helped me not notice the craves. Just got back from the dentist who told me my mouth is healthy (despite all the aches and sores). Anyway, fuck dip
SDZ - I'm sure you look at this incident as a victory, or that you have Quit, or that you've 'beat this'. While I think being Quit for a month is awesome, I'm going to highly, HIGHLY recommend you find your quit group and join. If you Quit on 11/14, your group is the Fog Fighters of February, 2015.
We've seen way too many people come here, post once, think 'I got this', and then disappear. There is a ton of support here, knowledge, and brotherhood. The best way to keep you dentist happy is floss. The best way to make your Quit happy - Post Roll.
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Come on over to Feb Fog Fighters and quit with us today SDZ.
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Hey all. 12 year dipper here that got up to about two cans a day at highest level. Quit cold turkey on November 14th and have feared oral cancer nonstop all last month. At least it helped me not notice the craves. Just got back from the dentist who told me my mouth is healthy (despite all the aches and sores). Anyway, fuck dip
SDZ - I'm sure you look at this incident as a victory, or that you have Quit, or that you've 'beat this'. While I think being Quit for a month is awesome, I'm going to highly, HIGHLY recommend you find your quit group and join. If you Quit on 11/14, your group is the Fog Fighters of February, 2015.
We've seen way too many people come here, post once, think 'I got this', and then disappear. There is a ton of support here, knowledge, and brotherhood. The best way to keep you dentist happy is floss. The best way to make your Quit happy - Post Roll.
SDZ - Come join up with us.
Just Click here (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=8756760&t=10685990).
This will take you to our group and read through the page to learn out to post roll. If not, we will help you along.
Just Quit this one day at a time. Give you give me one day?
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1 Y/O dies from ingesting liquid nicotine (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/1-year-old-n-y-boy-dies-ingesting-liquid-nicotine-article-1.2045532)
Damn shame this happened to a child.
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1 Y/O dies from ingesting liquid nicotine (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/1-year-old-n-y-boy-dies-ingesting-liquid-nicotine-article-1.2045532)
Damn shame this happened to a child.
dammit... that pisses me off to no end.
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1 Y/O dies from ingesting liquid nicotine (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/1-year-old-n-y-boy-dies-ingesting-liquid-nicotine-article-1.2045532)
Damn shame this happened to a child.
Holy Shit... This is terrible
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1 Y/O dies from ingesting liquid nicotine (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/1-year-old-n-y-boy-dies-ingesting-liquid-nicotine-article-1.2045532)
Damn shame this happened to a child.
Holy Shit... This is terrible
This is awful.
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1 Y/O dies from ingesting liquid nicotine (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/1-year-old-n-y-boy-dies-ingesting-liquid-nicotine-article-1.2045532)
Damn shame this happened to a child.
Holy Shit... This is terrible
This is awful.
I heard on the radio today, some survey of young people. I didn't get the exact numbers, but the gist of the report was that smoking was WAY down among young people.
However.
'Vaping' was VERY common, especially in EIGHTH GRADERS!
'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head'
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1 Y/O dies from ingesting liquid nicotine (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/1-year-old-n-y-boy-dies-ingesting-liquid-nicotine-article-1.2045532)
Damn shame this happened to a child.
Holy Shit... This is terrible
This is awful.
I heard on the radio today, some survey of young people. I didn't get the exact numbers, but the gist of the report was that smoking was WAY down among young people.
However.
'Vaping' was VERY common, especially in EIGHTH GRADERS!
'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head'
That is very sad.
I really hate seeing the nicotine e-cigs or vapor, there is no break they can do it all the time, it will be tough to stop using.
When I tried nicotine gum, and chewed it all the time it didn't decrease my chewing it just bridged the gap until the next chew.
I am glad there is no poison in my body anymore.
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1 Y/O dies from ingesting liquid nicotine (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/1-year-old-n-y-boy-dies-ingesting-liquid-nicotine-article-1.2045532)
Damn shame this happened to a child.
Holy Shit... This is terrible
This is awful.
I heard on the radio today, some survey of young people. I didn't get the exact numbers, but the gist of the report was that smoking was WAY down among young people.
However.
'Vaping' was VERY common, especially in EIGHTH GRADERS!
'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head'
That is very sad.
I really hate seeing the nicotine e-cigs or vapor, there is no break they can do it all the time, it will be tough to stop using.
When I tried nicotine gum, and chewed it all the time it didn't decrease my chewing it just bridged the gap until the next chew.
I am glad there is no poison in my body anymore.
Here's a story about the report:
http://hotair.com/archives/2014/12/16/e ... than-ever/ (http://hotair.com/archives/2014/12/16/e-cigs-now-have-teens-smoking-less-tobacco-than-ever/)
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1 Y/O dies from ingesting liquid nicotine (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/1-year-old-n-y-boy-dies-ingesting-liquid-nicotine-article-1.2045532)
Damn shame this happened to a child.
Holy Shit... This is terrible
This is awful.
I heard on the radio today, some survey of young people. I didn't get the exact numbers, but the gist of the report was that smoking was WAY down among young people.
However.
'Vaping' was VERY common, especially in EIGHTH GRADERS!
'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head'
That is very sad.
I really hate seeing the nicotine e-cigs or vapor, there is no break they can do it all the time, it will be tough to stop using.
When I tried nicotine gum, and chewed it all the time it didn't decrease my chewing it just bridged the gap until the next chew.
I am glad there is no poison in my body anymore.
Here's a story about the report:
http://hotair.com/archives/2014/12/16/e ... than-ever/ (http://hotair.com/archives/2014/12/16/e-cigs-now-have-teens-smoking-less-tobacco-than-ever/)
I think they just made e-cigs illegal to sell to minors in New Mexico. I don't understand why they were legal to sell to kids in the first place.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. The government does not want anyone to quit using nicotine. Smoking and chewing maybe, but keep using the nicotine because they tax it. If you smoke or chew, you could die from it early. If you are "vaping" it may let you live longer than a smoker so you can continue to pay taxes on it. If they wanted people to quit, they wouldn't offer them gum and patches, they would tell them the truth. From what I understand, the chemicals in those things are really bad for you also, but I digress.
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So, I've been trying to figure out what the significance of December 4, 2012 is and why so many users were online that day...in the range of 428. Can anyone shed some light?
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So, I've been trying to figure out what the significance of December 4, 2012 is and why so many users were online that day...in the range of 428. Can anyone shed some light?
Circle Jerk
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So, I've been trying to figure out what the significance of December 4, 2012 is and why so many users were online that day...in the range of 428. Can anyone shed some light?
Circle Jerk
Close. Wasn't a real circle jerk, but G was giving hand jobs that day.
I got three. :blink:
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So, I've been trying to figure out what the significance of December 4, 2012 is and why so many users were online that day...in the range of 428. Can anyone shed some light?
Circle Jerk
Close. Wasn't a real circle jerk, but G was giving hand jobs that day.
I got three. :blink:
Measuring quit lengths...
Wanna see mine? Mine is bigger!
Gmann wants to see them all!
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So I head out to the range today with my newly built rifle. I start getting set up and I notice to my left a few benches down is a guy about my age probably 350 lbs and carrying a rubber tube in his nose attached to a box strapped to him. He has a 7 mag. and about at 1.5 in group at 25 yds. The range officer tells him he could probably hit the gongs at 220 yds. I have my doubts but offer to spot for him.
After several misses (random impacts) it is decided that maybe he should put it on paper first at say 100 yds.
Cease fire is called and I go out and move my target to the range I want, and notice he is attempting to carry his target out - to 100 yds. I did it for him. He complained about his failing lungs and thanked me.
We all shoot for a few minutes, then another cease fire is called. I start a conversation with the guy to my right and we bullshit for a few. Then I look for the big guy to see if he needs help. He is standing behind the safety line... Smoking a fucking cigarette.
NO FUCKING CLUE.
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Glad to see this study come out and to see that UST is on the defensive now...
U of M Researchers Say Smokeless Tobacco Needs Regulation (http://kstp.com/news/stories/S3654006.shtml?cat=1)
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It's day 4...Yesterday was a real test for me. After an entire day of feeling EXTREMELY tense, headaches and stomach pains, I had my first REAL test. I went out with my girlfriend for a few drinks. SUCCESS! I didn't cave!
Now it's time for my second test: I'm driving 4 hours back home to see my folks for Christmas. Road trips were the times when I dipped more than ever...basically had one in for the entire drive. NOT TODAY! I will NOT cave.
Just needed to type that out to give it a little more resonance within me. Thanks y'all. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays.
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It's day 4...Yesterday was a real test for me. After an entire day of feeling EXTREMELY tense, headaches and stomach pains, I had my first REAL test. I went out with my girlfriend for a few drinks. SUCCESS! I didn't cave!
Now it's time for my second test: I'm driving 4 hours back home to see my folks for Christmas. Road trips were the times when I dipped more than ever...basically had one in for the entire drive. NOT TODAY! I will NOT cave.
Just needed to type that out to give it a little more resonance within me. Thanks y'all. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays.
Congratulations on your victory.
Warning...testing yourself so early in your quit is DANGEROUS! Keep fake, seeds, gum, etc. on hand for these trigger situations. Drinking was a huge trigger for me....didn't drink unitl 25 or so days into my quit and that was too early. Driving long distances is also another trigger for me...can't really avoid these...but protect your quit with a substitute for dip. Day 4 is huge...you should be coming out of your fog. Keep drinking water till your drinking and peeing at the same time.
Quit on, cockman.
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It's day 4...Yesterday was a real test for me. After an entire day of feeling EXTREMELY tense, headaches and stomach pains, I had my first REAL test. I went out with my girlfriend for a few drinks. SUCCESS! I didn't cave!
Now it's time for my second test: I'm driving 4 hours back home to see my folks for Christmas. Road trips were the times when I dipped more than ever...basically had one in for the entire drive. NOT TODAY! I will NOT cave.
Just needed to type that out to give it a little more resonance within me. Thanks y'all. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays.
Congratulations on your victory.
Warning...testing yourself so early in your quit is DANGEROUS! Keep fake, seeds, gum, etc. on hand for these trigger situations. Drinking was a huge trigger for me....didn't drink unitl 25 or so days into my quit and that was too early. Driving long distances is also another trigger for me...can't really avoid these...but protect your quit with a substitute for dip. Day 4 is huge...you should be coming out of your fog. Keep drinking water till your drinking and peeing at the same time.
Quit on, cockman.
I agree with Schaef - it IS a victory, but it's best not to try to chalk those victories up in the early days....if you don't dip today, that is the victory of victories and all you need to ask of yourself today. Alcohol will make your quit difficult, like Schaef I put it off for a while, for me a couple months. Text me for digits if you want, I will answer day or night, 24/7.
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It's day 4...Yesterday was a real test for me. After an entire day of feeling EXTREMELY tense, headaches and stomach pains, I had my first REAL test. I went out with my girlfriend for a few drinks. SUCCESS! I didn't cave!
Now it's time for my second test: I'm driving 4 hours back home to see my folks for Christmas. Road trips were the times when I dipped more than ever...basically had one in for the entire drive. NOT TODAY! I will NOT cave.
Just needed to type that out to give it a little more resonance within me. Thanks y'all. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays.
Congratulations on your victory.
Warning...testing yourself so early in your quit is DANGEROUS! Keep fake, seeds, gum, etc. on hand for these trigger situations. Drinking was a huge trigger for me....didn't drink unitl 25 or so days into my quit and that was too early. Driving long distances is also another trigger for me...can't really avoid these...but protect your quit with a substitute for dip. Day 4 is huge...you should be coming out of your fog. Keep drinking water till your drinking and peeing at the same time.
Quit on, cockman.
I agree with Schaef - it IS a victory, but it's best not to try to chalk those victories up in the early days....if you don't dip today, that is the victory of victories and all you need to ask of yourself today. Alcohol will make your quit difficult, like Schaef I put it off for a while, for me a couple months. Text me for digits if you want, I will answer day or night, 24/7.
I made it!!! Just got through day 6, and it's getting better all the time. Thanks for the support guys. Fuck cancer, and Merry Christmas!
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shocker
So I have noticed a lot of the quitter pictures on the website and on the KTC Facebook page where everyone is giving the "2 in the pink and 1 in the stink" hand gesture (see above). Is there any KTC significance or history behind it or is just one of things where one guy started it and everyone else followed suit?
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shocker
So I have noticed a lot of the quitter pictures on the website and on the KTC Facebook page where everyone is giving the "2 in the pink and 1 in the stink" hand gesture (see above). Is there any KTC significance or history behind it or is just one of things where one guy started it and everyone else followed suit?
"Shocker" was big in the mid to late 90s.
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shocker
So I have noticed a lot of the quitter pictures on the website and on the KTC Facebook page where everyone is giving the "2 in the pink and 1 in the stink" hand gesture (see above). Is there any KTC significance or history behind it or is just one of things where one guy started it and everyone else followed suit?
"Shocker" was big in the mid to late 90s.
But what does it have to do with KTC?
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shocker
So I have noticed a lot of the quitter pictures on the website and on the KTC Facebook page where everyone is giving the "2 in the pink and 1 in the stink" hand gesture (see above). Is there any KTC significance or history behind it or is just one of things where one guy started it and everyone else followed suit?
"Shocker" was big in the mid to late 90s.
But what does it have to do with KTC?
Gmann probably knows
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Hey everyone, I just hit day 10 and I feel great. But yesterday I finally started getting sores in my mouth. never really had this issue before, at least not a sore like this. I know none of you are likely doctors, but I am wondering if any of you have got the same type sores as me. I have experienced 2 types.
The first are under the inside of my cheek, and as far as I can tell not visible. They feel like a little grain of sand, and never seems to get bigger, or smaller.
The second, which I developed yesterday after lunch, I think is a canker sore. I have never had one of these. It is visable, and is pretty close to where I use to hold my dip. It is directly on the gum below my tooth, and there seems to be these little "clusters" as I am calling them. They are small pin-head sized bumps around the area, even directly across from the main sore on my cheek instead of my gum.
Has anyone else experienced these types of sores? I figure I will give it till after new year then make a dentist appt if not better.
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Hey everyone, I just hit day 10 and I feel great. But yesterday I finally started getting sores in my mouth. never really had this issue before, at least not a sore like this. I know none of you are likely doctors, but I am wondering if any of you have got the same type sores as me. I have experienced 2 types.
The first are under the inside of my cheek, and as far as I can tell not visible. They feel like a little grain of sand, and never seems to get bigger, or smaller.
The second, which I developed yesterday after lunch, I think is a canker sore. I have never had one of these. It is visable, and is pretty close to where I use to hold my dip. It is directly on the gum below my tooth, and there seems to be these little "clusters" as I am calling them. They are small pin-head sized bumps around the area, even directly across from the main sore on my cheek instead of my gum.
Has anyone else experienced these types of sores? I figure I will give it till after new year then make a dentist appt if not better.
Forest, I have been right there with you. I have researched every little thing change that happens to my mouth.
Your mouth is adjusting and healing up after not having poison in your mouth, the ph levels are readjusting and also you are probably eating seeds, candy, gum or some other alternative, your mouth is not used to that.
Also, I think that since we are quit now, we are very aware of our mouths since we are worried about what we have been doing to our mouths over 5, 10, 15, 20+ years.
This is a good list of what to expect:
http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/sym ... -dip-chew/ (http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/symptoms-of-quitting-dip-chew/)
1. Use mouth wash, warm saltwater and/or some hydrogen peroxide (water down) to rinse your mouth.
2. If they don't go away after a couple weeks get them checked out, peace of mind
3. Schedule a dentist appointment which a lot of us have put off for years, they will do a oral cancer screening and get back on good dental hygiene
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Merry Christmas Quitters!
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MERRY CHRISTMAS GUYS! Starting to feel the positive effects of quitting! Life is looking up !
Stay quit strong!
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I probably missed it, but I'm sure there's a story behind the dude wearing the 70's bathrobe in today's KTC banner....
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I probably missed it, but I'm sure there's a story behind the dude wearing the 70's bathrobe in today's KTC banner....
Have you not seen National Lampoons Christmas Vacation? I do believe that's Cousin Eddie emptying his RV septic tank into Clark's curb drain.
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I probably missed it, but I'm sure there's a story behind the dude wearing the 70's bathrobe in today's KTC banner....
Have you not seen National Lampoons Christmas Vacation? I do believe that's Cousin Eddie emptying his RV septic tank into Clark's curb drain.
It is Cousin Eddie, that is hilarious
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You're here, you're reading, you plan to quit with the New Year.
Not a bad start, but.....
You have motivation now. Will it remain in seven days? How often have you planned to quit and that date never came? Why is this time different? Why not quit now, while the motivation is high?
It won't be easier in seven days. It will suck. It will suck today, but no more than then. There is no magic coming at midnight, Jan 1, 2015. The ball will drop. But yours already have, so you are a big boy and control your on decisions.
The best part...
The worst is only three days. Seriously, what can't you do for three days? So, according to my math, by Jan 1 which is 7 days from now, you will be 4 days PAST the worst part. Freedom - it tastes so sweet.
Your choice -
Quit now. Be past the worst. Taste freedom. All by Jan 1st.
Or wait. Take a chance. Your motivation may fade. You may forget. You may stop caring. You may still be dipping and reading a very similar message on December 25, 2015, swearing that 2016 is the year it will happen. All because you decided to wait 7 more days. 7 more days that would not have helped or made it easier on the least.
I'm not going to tell you what to do. I can't make the choice for you. You decide.
I will tell you that I decided on freedom. And it's awesome.
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You're here, you're reading, you plan to quit with the New Year.
Not a bad start, but.....
You have motivation now. Will it remain in seven days? How often have you planned to quit and that date never came? Why is this time different? Why not quit now, while the motivation is high?
It won't be easier in seven days. It will suck. It will suck today, but no more than then. There is no magic coming at midnight, Jan 1, 2015. The ball will drop. But yours already have, so you are a big boy and control your on decisions.
The best part...
The worst is only three days. Seriously, what can't you do for three days? So, according to my math, by Jan 1 which is 7 days from now, you will be 4 days PAST the worst part. Freedom - it tastes so sweet.
Your choice -
Quit now. Be past the worst. Taste freedom. All by Jan 1st.
Or wait. Take a chance. Your motivation may fade. You may forget. You may stop caring. You may still be dipping and reading a very similar message on December 25, 2015, swearing that 2016 is the year it will happen. All because you decided to wait 7 more days. 7 more days that would not have helped or made it easier on the least.
I'm not going to tell you what to do. I can't make the choice for you. You decide.
I will tell you that I decided on freedom. And it's awesome.
Red speaks the truth here!!! Why wait until New Years??? It won't be any harder to quit now than then! Its going to suck either way for the first few days so why not take the plunge now and get the worst part out of the way BEFORE the new year??? You know you want to quit or you wouldn't be reading this now! You can DO this one day at a time!!!!
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Well, this is post #1 for me. Quit last Saturday so it's been about a week. I stumbled across this site when I Googled how long I should expect to be a short tempered A-Hole until the tobacco wears off.
I'm 51 years old been chewing since I was 14. Unlike now back then there was no age limit on Cope.
Over the years I quit a few times but then something kicked it off again - hunting or fishing trip, poker game, real shitty day at work but over the last year I've really been going to town. I couldn't go more than a few hours without a dip then again first thing in the morning. Elk hunting, bird hunting whatever. I tell myself I wasn't addicted enjoyed the process more than the buzz, threw a nearly full can in the trash. Then, I caught myself a few hours later digging around in the trash for it. Pathetic, right?
I resolve here and now to never chew again and do what it takes to not relapse back into the old habits. One week down and reading what others have put up maybe I made it past the hardest part.
Thanks
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Well, this is post #1 for me. Quit last Saturday so it's been about a week. I stumbled across this site when I Googled how long I should expect to be a short tempered A-Hole until the tobacco wears off.
I'm 51 years old been chewing since I was 14. Unlike now back then there was no age limit on Cope.
Over the years I quit a few times but then something kicked it off again - hunting or fishing trip, poker game, real shitty day at work but over the last year I've really been going to town. I couldn't go more than a few hours without a dip then again first thing in the morning. Elk hunting, bird hunting whatever. I tell myself I wasn't addicted enjoyed the process more than the buzz, threw a nearly full can in the trash. Then, I caught myself a few hours later digging around in the trash for it. Pathetic, right?
I resolve here and now to never chew again and do what it takes to not relapse back into the old habits. One week down and reading what others have put up maybe I made it past the hardest part.
Thanks
Good to meet you Paul. You're the same age as me, same hobbies, and all that. I started when I was 10. Anyway, first thing you want to do is find your quit group and learn how to post roll.
Check your Pm's. I'll give you hand getting started if you like. Congrats on your quit Brother!
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Well, this is post #1 for me. Quit last Saturday so it's been about a week. I stumbled across this site when I Googled how long I should expect to be a short tempered A-Hole until the tobacco wears off.
I'm 51 years old been chewing since I was 14. Unlike now back then there was no age limit on Cope.
Over the years I quit a few times but then something kicked it off again - hunting or fishing trip, poker game, real shitty day at work but over the last year I've really been going to town. I couldn't go more than a few hours without a dip then again first thing in the morning. Elk hunting, bird hunting whatever. I tell myself I wasn't addicted enjoyed the process more than the buzz, threw a nearly full can in the trash. Then, I caught myself a few hours later digging around in the trash for it. Pathetic, right?
I resolve here and now to never chew again and do what it takes to not relapse back into the old habits. One week down and reading what others have put up maybe I made it past the hardest part.
Thanks
Good to meet you Paul. You're the same age as me, same hobbies, and all that. I started when I was 10. Anyway, first thing you want to do is find your quit group and learn how to post roll.
Check your Pm's. I'll give you hand getting started if you like. Congrats on your quit Brother!
Paul,
You found the right place with your Quit.
Read as much as you can on here. Soak it in and ask questions.
Cornerstone of KTC, post roll and gives us your word that you will not use nicotin for today. Be a man of your word. Let tomorrow worry about itself.
Just sent you a PM, check your in box
Your Quit Group would be Pre HOF March 2015
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My name is Ryan and I'm addicted to snus. I can't seem to quit the snus. I always cave in and bitch up. I'm tired of being a slave to the snus. I have been chewing for 3 years and counting. I need to be nicotine free but I always have weak ass excuses to cave. That's why I'm here is to grow some guts and get inspired to quit.
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My name is Ryan and I'm addicted to snus. I can't seem to quit the snus. I always cave in and bitch up. I'm tired of being a slave to the snus. I have been chewing for 3 years and counting. I need to be nicotine free but I always have weak ass excuses to cave. That's why I'm here is to grow some guts and get inspired to quit.
Hi Naptown, you should post this in the introduction (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/55574/) section where people can see you. Read all you can on the site. Words of wisdom, HOF speeches, and other introduction posts will give you the insight we are basically the same; nicotine addicts.
If you decide you want to quit with KTC, go to Welcome Center (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/55560/) and you will be ready to post roll in April '15 group.
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Hello everyone, I am currently on day 24 of my quit. I'm only 23 years old but I have chewed since I was 17. This is the farthest I have ever gotten to date. I just had a couple of questions if someone could help answer them i would greatly appreciate it. 1) How long should I keep using Smokey Mt? It is definitely helping in curbing any cravings I am having but I certainly don't want to become addicted to it. 2) Is it possible to get nicotine from 2nd hand smoke? My parents smoke so I am sure parts of the house contain some second hand smoke and I'm worried I'm getting nicotine from it. It seems as if the cravings have plateaud but are not decreasing. Thanks for your help! (I'm sorry my text is mashed together im using my ipad to type)
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1) use smokey mountain for the rest of your life if it helps keep you quit
2) no
Why not join up with us so we can quit together? You can post up day 24 roll call in March 2015 group. Why not go over to the introduction section and tell us a little about yourself. You are amongst friends here.
soxffn
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Happy early New Years to all on here. My name's Chris and this is my 4th day dip free. I've been dipping off and on for twenty years and have quit a few times during that span, the longest time was 2 and a half years. I honestly don't know why I started back up, just got bored one day I guess. I was an aircraft mechanic for the longest time and it always seemed to help me concentrate when I would put a big ol' fat dip in right before I started a big maintenance task. As the years have gone by though, I've actually gotten tired of dipping and thought I would quit for good this time. My kids were always asking me to quit, so this year I made them a promise that on Christmas, I would quit. So far so good, my last dip was 6pm Christmas Eve and although it's been killing me to have a dip, I've fought off the urges pretty well. Today, I knew, would be a big test though since I am back to work today, and I usually put a nice juicy dip in right before I start a project. It's been a killer today, I've thought about dipping all day, but I've manned up and pressed on. Anyway, just wanted to say hey and to say how happy I am that I found this site. It sure does help reading all of the stories and knowing that there are so many of you who have gone through or who are currently going through all of the same things I am right now.
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Happy early New Years to all on here. My name's Chris and this is my 4th day dip free. I've been dipping off and on for twenty years and have quit a few times during that span, the longest time was 2 and a half years. I honestly don't know why I started back up, just got bored one day I guess. I was an aircraft mechanic for the longest time and it always seemed to help me concentrate when I would put a big ol' fat dip in right before I started a big maintenance task. As the years have gone by though, I've actually gotten tired of dipping and thought I would quit for good this time. My kids were always asking me to quit, so this year I made them a promise that on Christmas, I would quit. So far so good, my last dip was 6pm Christmas Eve and although it's been killing me to have a dip, I've fought off the urges pretty well. Today, I knew, would be a big test though since I am back to work today, and I usually put a nice juicy dip in right before I start a project. It's been a killer today, I've thought about dipping all day, but I've manned up and pressed on. Anyway, just wanted to say hey and to say how happy I am that I found this site. It sure does help reading all of the stories and knowing that there are so many of you who have gone through or who are currently going through all of the same things I am right now.
Hey Chris.
Welcome to the club. I'm brand new myself, quit December 20 and found this site same as you did. It's pretty simple - a lot of guys and and some women kicking the can. Each morning you log in and reaffirm your commitment to quit. It's really easy to buy a can or bum a chew and then you're right back to where you started. Logging in each day takes a couple minutes but may be just enough to stop you from taking your next chew because some random event made you cave.
Some of us have been chewing over 30 years so you wont find anyone here that hasn't been there.
I'd be glad to give you the ropes on how to do it (same as someone else did for me). If you do join be aware that participation is expected.
You may be hearing from some of the veterans as well.
(I found your post by rereading some of the older stuff to get me over this hump!)
PS: You might want to post your intro to the Introductions (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/55574/) section. (Start a new topic)
Paul
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Are you thinking about quitting dip? Well you have come to the right place. I used to make quitting dip my top New Years resolution every year. Well that would last for about 3 or 4 days until things got really tough. I always found some reason or excuse to return to dipping.
2 years ago I found this site. This site helped me to understand many things.
1. I am an addict.
2. I am not alone.
3. It is OK to rely upon support.
4. Accountability is important.
5. It is possible to live without nicotine.
If you want to be free from nicotine, than make it happen. Do it NOW. Do it TODAY. Don't wait for some magical day, when it will be easier, or more convenient. That day is never coming.
Happy New Year everyone.
Ryan