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Title: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: dr_jones_25 on July 21, 2012, 02:42:00 PM
Just thought I would introduce myself. My name is Dave, and I came here to quit chewing. My brother in law came to this site first, and he highly encouraged me to come here. So.....here I am.

I have been chewing for about 19 years. I have quit a handful of times, once for 8 months. Then there is always that social setting that you believe you can have a social chew and you will be fine, and the next day you are at the store buying a can. I am a family man, and enjoy spending time with my beautiful wife and daughter. I began chewing in high school, probably like most on here. My friends and I made up a name for it. We called it Gummy Bears. We would always say stuff like "Hey guys, want some Gummy Bears for lunch?" and we would all get in one car, and sneak up in the hills for a nice dip for lunch, instead of actual food. Yesterday, my daughter looked at me and was intimidating herself playing baseball. She had a jolly rancher in her mouth (actually in the side of her mouth). She pretended to swing her bat, and then spit to the side. As much as I love my little girl, and how adorable and insanely intelligent and funny she is, this wasn't funny to me. Well, I am here to commit to quitting, and I look forward to meeting some of you. Tell me....how many times am I going to reach down in my pocket before I realize my can isn't there??
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: Mthomas3824 on July 21, 2012, 06:46:00 PM
Quote from: dr_jones_25
Just thought I would introduce myself. My name is Dave, and I came here to quit chewing. My brother in law came to this site first, and he highly encouraged me to come here. So.....here I am.

I have been chewing for about 19 years. I have quit a handful of times, once for 8 months. Then there is always that social setting that you believe you can have a social chew and you will be fine, and the next day you are at the store buying a can. I am a family man, and enjoy spending time with my beautiful wife and daughter. I began chewing in high school, probably like most on here. My friends and I made up a name for it. We called it Gummy Bears. We would always say stuff like "Hey guys, want some Gummy Bears for lunch?" and we would all get in one car, and sneak up in the hills for a nice dip for lunch, instead of actual food. Yesterday, my daughter looked at me and was intimidating herself playing baseball. She had a jolly rancher in her mouth (actually in the side of her mouth). She pretended to swing her bat, and then spit to the side. As much as I love my little girl, and how adorable and insanely intelligent and funny she is, this wasn't funny to me. Well, I am here to commit to quitting, and I look forward to meeting some of you. Tell me....how many times am I going to reach down in my pocket before I realize my can isn't there??
I am very glad to see you here! Listen and follow the vets with exactness.

Quitting and detox is hell but the quit plan is simple, safe and effective. I know you quit because you wanted to. Now everyday you quit for you, for M, little B and your brotherhood.

Welcome to hell bitch! Embrace the suck. Don't define what that means now. Experience it!

On day, I hope to see a post that defines what, "embrace the suck" means to you.

For now, you posted roll, keep your word, and get through today. If you wake up tomorrow, repeat.

Hey, oct please send digits, good quit bro here.
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: Roamcountry on July 21, 2012, 06:55:00 PM
Quote from: dr_jones_25
Tell me....how many times am I going to reach down in my pocket before I realize my can isn't there??
Many, just so long as you keep coming up empty handed ;) Glad to have you on board dave, check your inbox.
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: Wt57 on July 21, 2012, 07:14:00 PM
Quote from: Roamcountry
Quote from: dr_jones_25
Tell me....how many times am I going to reach down in my pocket before I realize my can isn't there??
Many, just so long as you keep coming up empty handed ;) Glad to have you on board dave, check your inbox.
Dave I was shocked just the other day, I climbed into my pickup and the first thing I did was reach for my dip! That was after 100 days. I have learned so much here, not just about my addiction but about living. I have had to learn to do so many things without dip, since I never had an adult life without nicotine. The best experience for me is to truely have freedom! Stay close to the site and read all you can, learn from the experiences of others!!
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: Souliman on July 21, 2012, 10:50:00 PM
Quote from: Wt57
Quote from: Roamcountry
Quote from: dr_jones_25
Tell me....how many times am I going to reach down in my pocket before I realize my can isn't there??
Many, just so long as you keep coming up empty handed ;) Glad to have you on board dave, check your inbox.
Dave I was shocked just the other day, I climbed into my pickup and the first thing I did was reach for my dip! That was after 100 days. I have learned so much here, not just about my addiction but about living. I have had to learn to do so many things without dip, since I never had an adult life without nicotine. The best experience for me is to truely have freedom! Stay close to the site and read all you can, learn from the experiences of others!!
Damn straight.

Its a rebirth. You see all your impulses without the cloud of nicotine hanging over you. You see the real man that's been dragged around on leash for too long. Its hard. Take it one day at a time. Take a breath when you're dealing with folks around you. No reason to take anything out on them.
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: dr_jones_25 on July 22, 2012, 05:57:00 AM
So, it is 3:30 a.m. and I just got home from work. I would normally take this time to check out some porn (i might need Kill the Porn when done with this chew stuff!!) and drink some adult beverages (might need Kill the booze also!!) All jokes aside, I am here posting on this website. I couldn't wait to get home and post how my day has been. As you might have noticed, I posted roll at 12:01 for Sunday, and added that "This Sucks". Not lying, this sucks!!! I will have to find another vice to keep me occupied. I am sure that I cleared the 3000 calorie mark with Werthers, butterscotch candy, Jolly Ranchers, and more. I am a little sick from all that candy. Might have to consider that Mountain chew stuff, for now. I have been drinking a ton of water. Probably drank a gallon, and sweated out a gallon and a half!! The reason I posted roll so quickly for Sunday, is because I have been thinking about chew about every 3 seconds, and for some reason, committing to quitting for a day makes it easier. So I had to get on quickly from my iPhone at work and commit to today. I will also admit, today was not easy hiding my frustration. I manage over 100 people a day, and keeping my cool was not an easy task. I need to remind myself to go back and apologize to Rachel, Steve A., Landon, Micheal, and Samantha.....not to mention my wife Michelle and daughter Berlyn. I know that my rages had a lot to do with the way I talked to them, and was uncalled for. Anyways, I would be lying to everyone to say that I didn't think about going and buying a can, and not telling anyone. Just continuing on and pretending it didn't happen. But, what would that solve? A temporary fix, and once again, I would be lying and deceiving everyone just like as if I didn't begin this journey. So, I didn't. I am going to keep posting what I am thinking and going through so that I can look back and remember what it was like, and know that I don't want to do this again. I posted yesterday about my daughter imitating me spitting, and I am going to post another reason I am quitting today. Once again, not for sympathy, but so "I" remember why I am doing this.


Reason #2 - In the past 8 months, my family has gone through a lot. I lost my job, was unemployed for some time, and accepted a job making significant amount of money less than I was. Through this, my family has remained united. We keep positive, and we love each other more each day. But, we are currently in the process of losing our home. We have lost our car already, and we continue down this downward spiral of financial burdens. But, how many times in the last 8 months did I go without a can of chew? How many times did I say to myself "we can't afford this?" NEVER!! I never went without my stupid habit so that I could afford things like a car or a home!!! What an insane thought process!! I can afford to spend $40 a week on something so selfish as chew, but we can not afford our car. Well, this is another reason I came to this site, and will commit to quitting for today.

Like Mthomas, I do think comedy is a great remedy to get through some desperate and dark times, so I am going to end on a little poem. Not a real, heartfelt poem, so a little stupid improv thing.

"There once was a man named Dave,
who never considered himself a slave,
Now he has chosen to quit,
all he wants is to spit,
and hoping to hell he doesn't cave"
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: Wt57 on July 22, 2012, 09:26:00 AM
Wow! So honest. So sincere. Dave you won't cave if You are honest to yourself and us and continue to post early every day! Hey if those late nights get to you and you are afraid to wake someone screw it!! I'm hardly ever asleep, (I was awake when you got home I was posting my promise) call me! You are beginning to feel the suck!!'
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: Grizzly25 on July 22, 2012, 10:10:00 AM
Very honest and from the heart brother!!!

But you will also need some stiff backbone and tough resolve to get thru the suck period!

I say your on the right track and have the right atitude I also want to see some determination and grit!

Stay close to the site  drink a ton of water, also when the urge hits to want to hit somebody or something....dont!!! Take a jog or come to the site and write it down!

Make this quit for and about you nobody else! Let all those around you benefit from you being quit and being around you know like not sneaking away to have a fatty or doing all you can to hide it or even the worst (like me) just chewing as often as I wanted exposing my wife and kids to my habit all the time without regard to what I was showing them!!!!

QUIT FOR YOU!!!!!

PM me if you need anything brother!
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: Mthomas3824 on July 22, 2012, 01:24:00 PM
Dr. Jones, stay the course! No going back now. Yes this post...you are embracing the suck!

Now stay pissed at tobacco! Vent and rage here! Soon your burden of quit will become light, your problems will still be there but you will face them head on.

You are about to open up a can of whoop ass on life. Just worry about quit today. Other issues can be shelved but solutions will present themselves to a sober mind.

I quit with you. This may be the most difficult fight you have but you already racked up 3 wins and zero losses to the nic bitch! You are still undefeated! You are hurting but isn't succeeding at quit a great buzz? Keep your record undefeated by wining your match today. No opponent you face tomorrow matters...until you win today!

You puked up the poison and lie. Most the nic will be out of your body. Don't be like a dog and return to your vomit! Go forward. Not today, I am quit and I am a man of my word!

There once was a man from Nantucket...err

Don't forgett, you are winning! You are taking control vs. being controlled.

I love it!!! 'dance' here is a victory dance just for you.
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: dr_jones_25 on July 22, 2012, 01:31:00 PM
Quote from: Mthomas3824
Dr. Jones, stay the course! No going back now. Yes this post...you are embracing the suck!

Now stay pissed at tobacco! Vent and rage here! Soon your burden of quit will become light, your problems will still be there but you will face them head on.

You are about to open up a can of whoop ass on life. Just worry about quit today. Other issues can be shelved but solutions will present themselves to a sober mind.

I quit with you. This may be the most difficult fight you have but you already racked up 3 wins and zero losses to the nic bitch! You are still undefeated! You are hurting but isn't succeeding at quit a great buzz? Keep your record undefeated by wining your match today. No opponent you face tomorrow matters...until you win today!

You puked up the poison and lie. Most the nic will be out of your body. Don't be like a dog and return to your vomit! Go forward. Not today, I am quit and I am a man of my word!

There once was a man from Nantucket...err

Don't forgett, you are winning! You are taking control vs. being controlled.

I love it!!! 'dance' here is a victory dance just for you.
Dr. Jones, stay the course! No going back now. Yes this post...you are embracing the suck!

It does feel good! I hope I am not being too negative on here, but I want to be honest with myself for the times when I come back to read this, I will understand why.

Yes I will quit today. I made roll call, and I am a man of my word as well. I stopped at 7-eleven last night on my way home from work at about 3:30. I picked up two large bags of seeds, and ate seeds till 5:00 this morning. Although I am feeling a lot of weird feelings, I didn't even think to buy a can last night. Not an option......
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: SirDerek on July 22, 2012, 02:57:00 PM
Quote from: dr_jones_25
Quote from: Mthomas3824
Dr. Jones, stay the course!  No going back now.  Yes this post...you are embracing the suck! 

Now stay pissed at tobacco!  Vent and rage here!  Soon your burden of quit will become light, your problems will still be there but you will face them head on. 

You are about to open up a can of whoop ass on life.  Just worry about quit today.  Other issues can be shelved but solutions will present themselves to a sober mind. 

I quit with you.  This may be the most difficult fight you have but you already racked up 3 wins and zero losses to the nic bitch!  You are still undefeated!  You are hurting but isn't succeeding at quit a great buzz?  Keep your record undefeated by wining your match today.  No opponent you face tomorrow matters...until you win today! 

You puked up the poison and lie.  Most the nic will be out of your body.  Don't be like a dog and return to your vomit!  Go forward.  Not today, I am quit and I am a man of my word! 

There once was a man from Nantucket...err

Don't forgett, you are winning!  You are taking control vs. being controlled.

I love it!!!  'dance'  here is a victory dance just for you.
Dr. Jones, stay the course! No going back now. Yes this post...you are embracing the suck!

It does feel good! I hope I am not being too negative on here, but I want to be honest with myself for the times when I come back to read this, I will understand why.

Yes I will quit today. I made roll call, and I am a man of my word as well. I stopped at 7-eleven last night on my way home from work at about 3:30. I picked up two large bags of seeds, and ate seeds till 5:00 this morning. Although I am feeling a lot of weird feelings, I didn't even think to buy a can last night. Not an option......
Awesome, man that's the ticket. Eat those seeds, drink the water and Kool-Aid. I'm keeping my promise as well to keep this buried in the past.

nice job.
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: eric71 on July 23, 2012, 05:37:00 AM
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: dr_jones_25
Quote from: Mthomas3824
Dr. Jones, stay the course!  No going back now.  Yes this post...you are embracing the suck! 

Now stay pissed at tobacco!  Vent and rage here!  Soon your burden of quit will become light, your problems will still be there but you will face them head on. 

You are about to open up a can of whoop ass on life.  Just worry about quit today.  Other issues can be shelved but solutions will present themselves to a sober mind. 

I quit with you.  This may be the most difficult fight you have but you already racked up 3 wins and zero losses to the nic bitch!  You are still undefeated!  You are hurting but isn't succeeding at quit a great buzz?  Keep your record undefeated by wining your match today.  No opponent you face tomorrow matters...until you win today! 

You puked up the poison and lie.  Most the nic will be out of your body.  Don't be like a dog and return to your vomit!  Go forward.  Not today, I am quit and I am a man of my word!  

There once was a man from Nantucket...err

Don't forgett, you are winning!  You are taking control vs. being controlled.

I love it!!!   'dance'  here is a victory dance just for you.
Dr. Jones, stay the course! No going back now. Yes this post...you are embracing the suck!

It does feel good! I hope I am not being too negative on here, but I want to be honest with myself for the times when I come back to read this, I will understand why.

Yes I will quit today. I made roll call, and I am a man of my word as well. I stopped at 7-eleven last night on my way home from work at about 3:30. I picked up two large bags of seeds, and ate seeds till 5:00 this morning. Although I am feeling a lot of weird feelings, I didn't even think to buy a can last night. Not an option......
Awesome, man that's the ticket. Eat those seeds, drink the water and Kool-Aid. I'm keeping my promise as well to keep this buried in the past.

nice job.
Keep on quittin' on, Oct12 is here for you! One never knows when we may need to lean on you for support, that is why this works. Hit me up and I'll get you my info. See you at roll call in the AM.

QLAFM
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: dr_jones_25 on July 23, 2012, 01:30:00 PM
Short and sweet today. Yesterday was much better. Still a little sweaty, and probably ate more than I should have, but less than the day before. Not as irritable, but could tell all it would take is something small. Still in the "Fog". Hope that goes away soon....not a fan. It was a good day!

Reason #3 - My wife (Mthomas's sister....hehehehe) says I have gorgeous, kissable lips. Sounds like a good reason to me!!!
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: dr_jones_25 on July 24, 2012, 05:09:00 AM
Today sucked. I have been thinking all day "what if if cave. What are the consequences if I cave? What if I buy some chew now, and just take a quick dip.....what do I have to do to get back on track?"

ALL of these thoughts I am having are the wrong thoughts. I need to change the way I am thinking, or I will cave. I HATE this feeling!! My wife is on board, my daughter noticed today that I actually ate breakfast with her, and didn't have a chew in my mouth. I can't go back, so how do I stay on track? Well, here it is. Tomorrow I am reaching out to the members that have reached out to me. Wt57, Roam Country, and MThomas, I will be talking to all of you tomorrow. I will be reaching out, because I NEED accountability. I have always been an ACCOUNTABLE person, so that is what I need. Accountability. I need all of you to hold me accountable to what I committed to in the first place. I have all of your numbers in my phone, so be expecting a text from me tomorrow, I will be reaching out.

I am going to admit, I am getting nervous. I am afraid of caving. I have an interview on Thursday in Minnesota. I am flying in on Wednesday, and my interview is on Thursday. I am meeting with the presidents of the company. I have my suit all dry cleaned and pressed, my hair is cut, my resume polished. What am I nervous about? I am nervous that I am going to be a fucking mess for the interview. I have been a sweaty, clumsy, foggy person for the last 5 days, and I don't know how I am going to get through this interview. I did, however, talk with my brother today, and we both agreed that God can help. I am not a religious Nazi by any means (no offense Mark), but there is a time and a place where you need answers, and there is only one person you can ask the question. Lot's of emotions going through my head, but I have already posted roll for Wednesday, so I will quit today.

Reason #4 - For my dog Roger. He needs a best friend :)
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: eric71 on July 24, 2012, 06:22:00 AM
Quote from: dr_jones_25
Today sucked. I have been thinking all day "what if if cave. What are the consequences if I cave? What if I buy some chew now, and just take a quick dip.....what do I have to do to get back on track?"

ALL of these thoughts I am having are the wrong thoughts. I need to change the way I am thinking, or I will cave. I HATE this feeling!! My wife is on board, my daughter noticed today that I actually ate breakfast with her, and didn't have a chew in my mouth. I can't go back, so how do I stay on track? Well, here it is. Tomorrow I am reaching out to the members that have reached out to me. Wt57, Roam Country, and MThomas, I will be talking to all of you tomorrow. I will be reaching out, because I NEED accountability. I have always been an ACCOUNTABLE person, so that is what I need. Accountability. I need all of you to hold me accountable to what I committed to in the first place. I have all of your numbers in my phone, so be expecting a text from me tomorrow, I will be reaching out.

I am going to admit, I am getting nervous. I am afraid of caving. I have an interview on Thursday in Minnesota. I am flying in on Wednesday, and my interview is on Thursday. I am meeting with the presidents of the company. I have my suit all dry cleaned and pressed, my hair is cut, my resume polished. What am I nervous about? I am nervous that I am going to be a fucking mess for the interview. I have been a sweaty, clumsy, foggy person for the last 5 days, and I don't know how I am going to get through this interview. I did, however, talk with my brother today, and we both agreed that God can help. I am not a religious Nazi by any means (no offense Mark), but there is a time and a place where you need answers, and there is only one person you can ask the question. Lot's of emotions going through my head, but I have already posted roll for Wednesday, so I will quit today.

Reason #4 - For my dog Roger. He needs a best friend :)
Three things,
1. Post roll first thing in the AM, ensures accountability
2. Pray, I don't care how religious or un-religious you are, God made all, knows all, and hears all in their times of need. You are no exception
3. Take it one day at a time, Oct 12 is here for you. If you need me, give me a call.

You got this, one day at a time. There is never a good reason to cave, there are always good reasons to stay quit.

QLAFM
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: Wt57 on July 24, 2012, 09:58:00 AM
Quote from: Eric71
Quote from: dr_jones_25
Today sucked. I have been thinking all day "what if if cave. What are the consequences if I cave? What if I buy some chew now, and just take a quick dip.....what do I have to do to get back on track?"

ALL of these thoughts I am having are the wrong thoughts. I need to change the way I am thinking, or I will cave. I HATE this feeling!! My wife is on board, my daughter noticed today that I actually ate breakfast with her, and didn't have a chew in my mouth. I can't go back, so how do I stay on track? Well, here it is. Tomorrow I am reaching out to the members that have reached out to me. Wt57, Roam Country, and MThomas, I will be talking to all of you tomorrow. I will be reaching out, because I NEED accountability. I have always been an ACCOUNTABLE person, so that is what I need. Accountability. I need all of you to hold me accountable to what I committed to in the first place. I have all of your numbers in my phone, so be expecting a text from me tomorrow, I will be reaching out.

I am going to admit, I am getting nervous. I am afraid of caving. I have an interview on Thursday in Minnesota. I am flying in on Wednesday, and my interview is on Thursday. I am meeting with the presidents of the company. I have my suit all dry cleaned and pressed, my hair is cut, my resume polished. What am I nervous about? I am nervous that I am going to be a fucking mess for the interview. I have been a sweaty, clumsy, foggy person for the last 5 days, and I don't know how I am going to get through this interview. I did, however, talk with my brother today, and we both agreed that God can help. I am not a religious Nazi by any means (no offense Mark), but there is a time and a place where you need answers, and there is only one person you can ask the question. Lot's of emotions going through my head, but I have already posted roll for Wednesday, so I will quit today.

Reason #4 - For my dog Roger. He needs a best friend :)
Three things,
1. Post roll first thing in the AM, ensures accountability
2. Pray, I don't care how religious or un-religious you are, God made all, knows all, and hears all in their times of need. You are no exception
3. Take it one day at a time, Oct 12 is here for you. If you need me, give me a call.

You got this, one day at a time. There is never a good reason to cave, there are always good reasons to stay quit.

QLAFM
Cave thinking sucks!!! Positive thinking will get you through this!! As for MT being a Nazi, well I find he not to bad of a guy most of the time. I'm only a call away, the extra stress along with your quit can suck or you can turn it around and use as a positive to boast your confidence by recognizing the strides you are making to take control of your personal life!! Your attitude is great, you are rocking your quit!
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: dr_jones_25 on July 25, 2012, 09:32:00 PM
Today was another GREAT day!! I want to give special props to Wt57, Divine, and of course MThomas for being some bad ass supporters! I enjoy the texts, so keep em comin!!!

I also want to add that I have been a huge downer for the last 5 days. Yesterday and today were fantastic, so what was the difference? I read a little bit of Dale Carnegie's "How to win friends and influence people". I read this often. Ecause I deal with people a lot! It meant something different today than when I have read it in the past. It talked about attitude, a d how you decide what your attitude is going to be. For the first five days, I CHOSE to let the nic bitch control my attitude, and they were horrible. For the last 2 days, I have CHOSEN to be well, and be happy, and be quit. I am stronger today than I ever was chewing. I am happy to have the fog, headaches, shaky, sweaty etc because that means I am doing something good for me, and it's starting to feel amazing. Just like everyone talks about, you have a choice. I choose to be quit and be happy!!

Reason #5 - because I CAN!!
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: Mthomas3824 on July 26, 2012, 05:04:00 AM
Quote from: dr_jones_25
Today was another GREAT day!! I want to give special props to Wt57, Divine, and of course MThomas for being some bad ass supporters! I enjoy the texts, so keep em comin!!!

I also want to add that I have been a huge downer for the last 5 days. Yesterday and today were fantastic, so what was the difference? I read a little bit of Dale Carnegie's "How to win friends and influence people". I read this often. Ecause I deal with people a lot! It meant something different today than when I have read it in the past. It talked about attitude, a d how you decide what your attitude is going to be. For the first five days, I CHOSE to let the nic bitch control my attitude, and they were horrible. For the last 2 days, I have CHOSEN to be well, and be happy, and be quit. I am stronger today than I ever was chewing. I am happy to have the fog, headaches, shaky, sweaty etc because that means I am doing something good for me, and it's starting to feel amazing. Just like everyone talks about, you have a choice. I choose to be quit and be happy!!

Reason #5 - because I CAN!!
One thing I question though is there are some side effects that we just go through to get to freedom.

Love the attitude. When you hit your first funk, just remember the core choice is to quit. No matter what, I think some attitudes won't be as easy to will into positive. Doesn't mean you don't try to be positive.

From my experience, my quit has been bi polar. It is awesome to be on the highs, but the lows are tough. If you find yourself in a low, just stay quit...you will come out of it. The bad days become less and the good days become more abundant.

When the vets tell you it gets better...it really does. Soon you will be writing those kinds of books! Freedom from vice catapults us to positive thinking.

Great thoughts and post!
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: Bean on July 26, 2012, 11:20:00 AM
Quote from: dr_jones_25
Today was another GREAT day!! I want to give special props to Wt57, Divine, and of course MThomas for being some bad ass supporters! I enjoy the texts, so keep em comin!!!

I also want to add that I have been a huge downer for the last 5 days. Yesterday and today were fantastic, so what was the difference? I read a little bit of Dale Carnegie's "How to win friends and influence people". I read this often. Ecause I deal with people a lot! It meant something different today than when I have read it in the past. It talked about attitude, a d how you decide what your attitude is going to be. For the first five days, I CHOSE to let the nic bitch control my attitude, and they were horrible. For the last 2 days, I have CHOSEN to be well, and be happy, and be quit. I am stronger today than I ever was chewing. I am happy to have the fog, headaches, shaky, sweaty etc because that means I am doing something good for me, and it's starting to feel amazing. Just like everyone talks about, you have a choice. I choose to be quit and be happy!!

Reason #5 - because I CAN!!
Exactly!!! Turn the tables on the Nic Bitch. Decide that each crave will be a reminder of your new freedom. Embrace the suck. Learn to laugh at the stupid choices you (we) made in the past. For me, that was 20+ years of stupidity...that is a ton of laughter!
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: jaginvest on July 26, 2012, 11:25:00 AM
Quote from: dr_jones_25
Today was another GREAT day!! I want to give special props to Wt57, Divine, and of course MThomas for being some bad ass supporters! I enjoy the texts, so keep em comin!!!

I also want to add that I have been a huge downer for the last 5 days. Yesterday and today were fantastic, so what was the difference? I read a little bit of Dale Carnegie's "How to win friends and influence people". I read this often. Ecause I deal with people a lot! It meant something different today than when I have read it in the past. It talked about attitude, a d how you decide what your attitude is going to be. For the first five days, I CHOSE to let the nic bitch control my attitude, and they were horrible. For the last 2 days, I have CHOSEN to be well, and be happy, and be quit. I am stronger today than I ever was chewing. I am happy to have the fog, headaches, shaky, sweaty etc because that means I am doing something good for me, and it's starting to feel amazing. Just like everyone talks about, you have a choice. I choose to be quit and be happy!!

Reason #5 - because I CAN!!
Great Job! Reach out to some more brothers and sisters in the Group. Get some more numbers, and Stay Quit Bro! Keep kickin' that bitch's ass. We are MADMEN!!!
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: kstampfly on July 26, 2012, 12:43:00 PM
Quote from: dr_jones_25
Today was another GREAT day!! I want to give special props to Wt57, Divine, and of course MThomas for being some bad ass supporters! I enjoy the texts, so keep em comin!!!

I also want to add that I have been a huge downer for the last 5 days. Yesterday and today were fantastic, so what was the difference? I read a little bit of Dale Carnegie's "How to win friends and influence people". I read this often. Ecause I deal with people a lot! It meant something different today than when I have read it in the past. It talked about attitude, a d how you decide what your attitude is going to be. For the first five days, I CHOSE to let the nic bitch control my attitude, and they were horrible. For the last 2 days, I have CHOSEN to be well, and be happy, and be quit. I am stronger today than I ever was chewing. I am happy to have the fog, headaches, shaky, sweaty etc because that means I am doing something good for me, and it's starting to feel amazing. Just like everyone talks about, you have a choice. I choose to be quit and be happy!!

Reason #5 - because I CAN!!
I am with you man. Regardles of how bad we feel during this time we are much better off without dip. It messed with our minds and bodies for way too long but the fact is, we now have control. Never give up, never give in, do everything possible to stay quit. Keep it up Brother!!
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: bigbamadan on July 26, 2012, 01:11:00 PM
right on dr jones. a positive mental attitude is one of the biggest keys to a successful quit. you post reminded me of something I wrote very early on in my own quit.

From day 25...

Quote from: bigbamadan
I've recently tried to stop blaming things on my quit.  For the first 15 days or so that's all I did.  Bad day at work...damn this quit making my job suck.  Burned dinner...fuckin no good quit making me lose track of time and forget something was in the oven.  Wife asks me to take out the trash and the bag rips on me...you son of bitch quit...now you've torn my garbage bag, really quit...now you are fucking with my garbage bags????  These few examples, along with countless other things I simply chalked up to the fact that my gold top, "it satisfies" friend was gone.  (Side note...now that I just typed that, what kind of slogan is that anyway???  "It satisfies"....that opens up a whole other can of worms and now has me pissed...but I'll post about that later...back to original train of thought)

At some point within the last two weeks, I saw a post in one of the other pre-HOF quit groups.  I don't recall which one or who made the post.  I don't even recall a direct quote, but the gist was...quit all your damn belly aching about how hard it is to quit.  The post was more abrasive than that and better stated but that was the idea.  At first I was pissed, this jackass can't tell me how I should feel.  The quit is hard and fuck him for insinuating I'm not man enough to handle it being I think and talk about how hard it is to break free from this addiction.

A couple of days passed.  I was having a conversation with the wife at dinner...just discussing our day. (Another side note, wife now loves how I can now sit at the dinner table after we finish...no longer have to run off to find my can)  In the conversation she brings up a coworker, informing me that another colleague had received an update on how they were doing.  A month and a half ago this coworkers teenage son passed away...in a tragic freak freak accident.  For the rest of the night I remained fairly down, imagining that family's loss and the pain they must be experiencing.

That's when it hit me and I started to think about that post saying to stop bellyaching over the quit.  That poster was right.  I don't have it bad, far from it actually.  My wife's coworker's family is dealing with a tragic unthinkable loss...and I'm sitting here for the past two weeks complaining to myself and thinking the sky is falling because I can't stuff carcinogens in my face.  How lame is that??? 

It was at that point I decided I needed a serious attitude change with my quit.  No longer would I blame things on the quit.  I had bad days when I dipped...so that stands to reason there will be bad days in my new nicotine free life.  The bad is not caused by the lack of nicotine.

Since openly attempting to embrace this train of thought I feel my quit has grown stronger.  I'm no longer questioning myself each and every step of the way.  Wondering if this would be occurring if I had that shit in my lip.  It is a nice change.
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: dr_jones_25 on July 28, 2012, 12:44:00 PM
Quote from: bigbamadan
right on dr jones.  a positive mental attitude is one of the biggest keys to a successful quit.  you post reminded me of something I wrote very early on in my own quit.

From day 25...

Quote from: bigbamadan
I've recently tried to stop blaming things on my quit.  For the first 15 days or so that's all I did.  Bad day at work...damn this quit making my job suck.  Burned dinner...fuckin no good quit making me lose track of time and forget something was in the oven.  Wife asks me to take out the trash and the bag rips on me...you son of bitch quit...now you've torn my garbage bag, really quit...now you are fucking with my garbage bags????  These few examples, along with countless other things I simply chalked up to the fact that my gold top, "it satisfies" friend was gone.  (Side note...now that I just typed that, what kind of slogan is that anyway???  "It satisfies"....that opens up a whole other can of worms and now has me pissed...but I'll post about that later...back to original train of thought)

At some point within the last two weeks, I saw a post in one of the other pre-HOF quit groups.  I don't recall which one or who made the post.  I don't even recall a direct quote, but the gist was...quit all your damn belly aching about how hard it is to quit.  The post was more abrasive than that and better stated but that was the idea.  At first I was pissed, this jackass can't tell me how I should feel.  The quit is hard and fuck him for insinuating I'm not man enough to handle it being I think and talk about how hard it is to break free from this addiction.

A couple of days passed.  I was having a conversation with the wife at dinner...just discussing our day. (Another side note, wife now loves how I can now sit at the dinner table after we finish...no longer have to run off to find my can)  In the conversation she brings up a coworker, informing me that another colleague had received an update on how they were doing.  A month and a half ago this coworkers teenage son passed away...in a tragic freak freak accident.  For the rest of the night I remained fairly down, imagining that family's loss and the pain they must be experiencing.

That's when it hit me and I started to think about that post saying to stop bellyaching over the quit.  That poster was right.  I don't have it bad, far from it actually.  My wife's coworker's family is dealing with a tragic unthinkable loss...and I'm sitting here for the past two weeks complaining to myself and thinking the sky is falling because I can't stuff carcinogens in my face.  How lame is that??? 

It was at that point I decided I needed a serious attitude change with my quit.  No longer would I blame things on the quit.  I had bad days when I dipped...so that stands to reason there will be bad days in my new nicotine free life.  The bad is not caused by the lack of nicotine.

Since openly attempting to embrace this train of thought I feel my quit has grown stronger.  I'm no longer questioning myself each and every step of the way.  Wondering if this would be occurring if I had that shit in my lip.  It is a nice change.
LOL, that is exactly how I was feeling. Everything was going wrong because I was quitting. But it is exactly the opposite. So many things are going right because I am quitting! I am using all of the positive things (Smile on wife's face, daughter's beaming eyes because I don't have a chew in) to make this easier. I was super concerned about a job interview I was going to have, but thanks to god, and my changed attitude, I got the job and I am sure that no one in that room knew I was going through so much physical and mental agony. This quit is the best thing I have done, and I am happy to be here with everyone.
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: dr_jones_25 on July 31, 2012, 05:38:00 PM
So, I think I am going to take some advice from my brother-in-law, who is a bad ass quitter, and take all of the money that I save from chew and put it in an account and buy myself something nice when I reach HOF. He said he was able to buy the best penis pump that money can buy, and the fanciest Ben Wa Balls on the market. I think I will buy a gun. Thanks for your inspiration MThomas!!!!
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: SirDerek on July 31, 2012, 05:40:00 PM
Quote from: dr_jones_25
So, I think I am going to take some advice from my brother-in-law, who is a bad ass quitter, and take all of the money that I save from chew and put it in an account and buy myself something nice when I reach HOF. He said he was able to buy the best penis pump that money can buy, and the fanciest Ben Wa Balls on the market. I think I will buy a gun. Thanks for your inspiration MThomas!!!!
That's it man, aim high (pun intended) for that gift. Just watch as may not want to use it for the same intentions as your bro-in-law and his gifts.

ouch....ouch....ohhhh
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: Skoal Monster on July 31, 2012, 06:58:00 PM
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: dr_jones_25
So, I think I am going to take some advice from my brother-in-law, who is a bad ass quitter, and take all of the money that I save from chew and put it in an account and buy myself something nice when I reach HOF. He said he was able to buy the best penis pump that money can buy, and the fanciest Ben Wa Balls on the market. I think I will buy a gun. Thanks for your inspiration MThomas!!!!
That's it man, aim high (pun intended) for that gift. Just watch as may not want to use it for the same intentions as your bro-in-law and his gifts.

ouch....ouch....ohhhh
if I had your brother in law I would buy a gun too 'BanDog'
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: carumba10 on July 31, 2012, 07:09:00 PM
Quote from: dr_jones_25
So, I think I am going to take some advice from my brother-in-law, who is a bad ass quitter, and take all of the money that I save from chew and put it in an account and buy myself something nice when I reach HOF. He said he was able to buy the best penis pump that money can buy, and the fanciest Ben Wa Balls on the market. I think I will buy a gun. Thanks for your inspiration MThomas!!!!
Is her name Bambi ??
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: eric71 on August 01, 2012, 05:14:00 AM
Quote from: carumba10
Quote from: dr_jones_25
So, I think I am going to take some advice from my brother-in-law, who is a bad ass quitter, and take all of the money that I save from chew and put it in an account and buy myself something nice when I reach HOF. He said he was able to buy the best penis pump that money can buy, and the fanciest Ben Wa Balls on the market. I think I will buy a gun. Thanks for your inspiration MThomas!!!!
Is her name Bambi ??
or Bang-Me?
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: zam on August 01, 2012, 11:30:00 AM
Quote from: Eric71
Quote from: carumba10
Quote from: dr_jones_25
So, I think I am going to take some advice from my brother-in-law, who is a bad ass quitter, and take all of the money that I save from chew and put it in an account and buy myself something nice when I reach HOF. He said he was able to buy the best penis pump that money can buy, and the fanciest Ben Wa Balls on the market. I think I will buy a gun. Thanks for your inspiration MThomas!!!!
Is her name Bambi ??
or Bang-Me?
Wait until the nic-rage has lifted before you go shopping :huh:

Btw, if you ever start running low on good reasons to quit, check these out! (http://www.killthecan.org/facts/100benefits.asp)
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: dr_jones_25 on August 01, 2012, 11:57:00 AM
Quote from: Zam
Quote from: Eric71
Quote from: carumba10
Quote from: dr_jones_25
So, I think I am going to take some advice from my brother-in-law, who is a bad ass quitter, and take all of the money that I save from chew and put it in an account and buy myself something nice when I reach HOF. He said he was able to buy the best penis pump that money can buy, and the fanciest Ben Wa Balls on the market. I think I will buy a gun. Thanks for your inspiration MThomas!!!!
Is her name Bambi ??
or Bang-Me?
Wait until the nic-rage has lifted before you go shopping :huh:

Btw, if you ever start running low on good reasons to quit, check these out! (http://www.killthecan.org/facts/100benefits.asp)
LOL, Thanks for the advice!! 'crackup'
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: Roamcountry on August 01, 2012, 12:01:00 PM
Quote from: Zam
Quote from: Eric71
Quote from: carumba10
Quote from: dr_jones_25
So, I think I am going to take some advice from my brother-in-law, who is a bad ass quitter, and take all of the money that I save from chew and put it in an account and buy myself something nice when I reach HOF. He said he was able to buy the best penis pump that money can buy, and the fanciest Ben Wa Balls on the market. I think I will buy a gun. Thanks for your inspiration MThomas!!!!
Is her name Bambi ??
or Bang-Me?
Wait until the nic-rage has lifted before you go shopping :huh:

Btw, if you ever start running low on good reasons to quit, check these out! (http://www.killthecan.org/facts/100benefits.asp)
Wait wait wait...hold on a second here. Your bro in law sent me a pic of what he bought and it wasnt no penis strecher. Let me share it with you here (http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa20/Lexion07/talkingsheep-1.jpg) 'crackup'
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: Mthomas3824 on August 01, 2012, 12:18:00 PM
Quote from: Roamcountry
Quote from: Zam
Quote from: Eric71
Quote from: carumba10
Quote from: dr_jones_25
So, I think I am going to take some advice from my brother-in-law, who is a bad ass quitter, and take all of the money that I save from chew and put it in an account and buy myself something nice when I reach HOF. He said he was able to buy the best penis pump that money can buy, and the fanciest Ben Wa Balls on the market. I think I will buy a gun. Thanks for your inspiration MThomas!!!!
Is her name Bambi ??
or Bang-Me?
Wait until the nic-rage has lifted before you go shopping :huh:

Btw, if you ever start running low on good reasons to quit, check these out! (http://www.killthecan.org/facts/100benefits.asp)
Wait wait wait...hold on a second here. Your bro in law sent me a pic of what he bought and it wasnt no penis strecher. Let me share it with you here (http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa20/Lexion07/talkingsheep-1.jpg) 'crackup'
I want to click these links so bad but I am at work. Is it worker friendly or will I have some explaining to do 'archer'
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: Roamcountry on August 01, 2012, 02:02:00 PM
Quote from: Mthomas3824
Quote from: Roamcountry
Quote from: Zam
Quote from: Eric71
Quote from: carumba10
Quote from: dr_jones_25
So, I think I am going to take some advice from my brother-in-law, who is a bad ass quitter, and take all of the money that I save from chew and put it in an account and buy myself something nice when I reach HOF. He said he was able to buy the best penis pump that money can buy, and the fanciest Ben Wa Balls on the market. I think I will buy a gun. Thanks for your inspiration MThomas!!!!
Is her name Bambi ??
or Bang-Me?
Wait until the nic-rage has lifted before you go shopping :huh:

Btw, if you ever start running low on good reasons to quit, check these out! (http://www.killthecan.org/facts/100benefits.asp)
Wait wait wait...hold on a second here. Your bro in law sent me a pic of what he bought and it wasnt no penis strecher. Let me share it with you here (http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa20/Lexion07/talkingsheep-1.jpg) 'crackup'
I want to click these links so bad but I am at work. Is it worker friendly or will I have some explaining to do 'archer'
well....click if you like, but they might only question your sexual preference....
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: Wt57 on August 01, 2012, 02:06:00 PM
Quote from: Roamcountry
Quote from: Mthomas3824
Quote from: Roamcountry
Quote from: Zam
Quote from: Eric71
Quote from: carumba10
Quote from: dr_jones_25
So, I think I am going to take some advice from my brother-in-law, who is a bad ass quitter, and take all of the money that I save from chew and put it in an account and buy myself something nice when I reach HOF. He said he was able to buy the best penis pump that money can buy, and the fanciest Ben Wa Balls on the market. I think I will buy a gun. Thanks for your inspiration MThomas!!!!
Is her name Bambi ??
or Bang-Me?
Wait until the nic-rage has lifted before you go shopping :huh:

Btw, if you ever start running low on good reasons to quit, check these out! (http://www.killthecan.org/facts/100benefits.asp)
Wait wait wait...hold on a second here. Your bro in law sent me a pic of what he bought and it wasnt no penis strecher. Let me share it with you here (http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa20/Lexion07/talkingsheep-1.jpg) 'crackup'
I want to click these links so bad but I am at work. Is it worker friendly or will I have some explaining to do 'archer'
well....click if you like, but they might only question your sexual preference....
He already has the real thing I'm saving her for him!
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: dr_jones_25 on August 02, 2012, 02:30:00 AM
http://whyquit.com/whyquit%5CSeanMarsee.html (http://whyquit.com/whyquit%5CSeanMarsee.html)


Just another reason to quit. Damn there are some stories out there. I hope NONE of us become a story. Please stay quit!!
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: eric71 on August 02, 2012, 05:21:00 AM
Quote from: dr_jones_25
http://whyquit.com/whyquit%5CSeanMarsee.html (http://whyquit.com/whyquit%5CSeanMarsee.html)


Just another reason to quit. Damn there are some stories out there. I hope NONE of us become a story. Please stay quit!!
QLAFM with you today Doc
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: dr_jones_25 on August 02, 2012, 05:06:00 PM
So, I am 2 weeks deep, and my quit is so damn strong right now! Craves are turning into motivation to quit. My gums are starting to feel so much better. I am beginning to be less irritable, and I am believing in myself more and more. I have started getting on this site religiously, and making some good contacts. So far, I have saved over $100! WHY DID I CHEW FOR SO LONG!!!????

I know that it isn't over, and that I need to post roll everyday for the rest of my quit life. But I just wanted to note how great I am feeling on Day 14. I am really saddened and pissed for those cavers yesterday. Either they go back to being addicted, or they will start this shit all over again. BLAH! Thanks to all my supporters! I love getting texts, whether they are to motivate me to stay quit today, or to call me a HOMO, I love the texts.


Quit reason #shit, I can't remember what number I am on- FREEDOM!!!!


QUIT LIKE FUCK!!!
QLAFM!!!!
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: Mthomas3824 on August 02, 2012, 05:27:00 PM
Quote from: dr_jones_25
So, I am 2 weeks deep, and my quit is so damn strong right now! Craves are turning into motivation to quit. My gums are starting to feel so much better. I am beginning to be less irritable, and I am believing in myself more and more. I have started getting on this site religiously, and making some good contacts. So far, I have saved over $100! WHY DID I CHEW FOR SO LONG!!!????

I know that it isn't over, and that I need to post roll everyday for the rest of my quit life. But I just wanted to note how great I am feeling on Day 14. I am really saddened and pissed for those cavers yesterday. Either they go back to being addicted, or they will start this shit all over again. BLAH! Thanks to all my supporters! I love getting texts, whether they are to motivate me to stay quit today, or to call me a HOMO, I love the texts.


Quit reason #shit, I can't remember what number I am on- FREEDOM!!!!


QUIT LIKE FUCK!!!
QLAFM!!!!
'clap' Very nice post sir.
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: Scowick65 on August 02, 2012, 08:13:00 PM
Quote from: Mthomas3824
Quote from: dr_jones_25
So, I am 2 weeks deep, and my quit is so damn strong right now! Craves are turning into motivation to quit. My gums are starting to feel so much better. I am beginning to be less irritable, and I am believing in myself more and more. I have started getting on this site religiously, and making some good contacts. So far, I have saved over $100! WHY DID I CHEW FOR SO LONG!!!????

I know that it isn't over, and that I need to post roll everyday for the rest of my quit life. But I just wanted to note how great I am feeling on Day 14. I am really saddened and pissed for those cavers yesterday. Either they go back to being addicted, or they will start this shit all over again. BLAH! Thanks to all my supporters! I love getting texts, whether they are to motivate me to stay quit today, or to call me a HOMO, I love the texts.


Quit reason #shit, I can't remember what number I am on- FREEDOM!!!!


QUIT LIKE FUCK!!!
QLAFM!!!!
'clap' Very nice post sir.
Freedom rock does it not? Savor it. Never let it evade you.
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: Greg5280 on August 02, 2012, 08:56:00 PM
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: Mthomas3824
Quote from: dr_jones_25
So, I am 2 weeks deep, and my quit is so damn strong right now! Craves are turning into motivation to quit. My gums are starting to feel so much better. I am beginning to be less irritable, and I am believing in myself more and more. I have started getting on this site religiously, and making some good contacts. So far, I have saved over $100! WHY DID I CHEW FOR SO LONG!!!????

I know that it isn't over, and that I need to post roll everyday for the rest of my quit life. But I just wanted to note how great I am feeling on Day 14. I am really saddened and pissed for those cavers yesterday. Either they go back to being addicted, or they will start this shit all over again. BLAH! Thanks to all my supporters! I love getting texts, whether they are to motivate me to stay quit today, or to call me a HOMO, I love the texts.


Quit reason #shit, I can't remember what number I am on- FREEDOM!!!!


QUIT LIKE FUCK!!!
QLAFM!!!!
'clap' Very nice post sir.
Freedom rock does it not? Savor it. Never let it evade you.
I ask myself the same question. Why did I wait so long to quit!?

Congrats on the two weeks!

STAY QUIT
Greg
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: Souliman on August 02, 2012, 10:18:00 PM
Quote from: Greg5280
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: Mthomas3824
Quote from: dr_jones_25
So, I am 2 weeks deep, and my quit is so damn strong right now! Craves are turning into motivation to quit. My gums are starting to feel so much better. I am beginning to be less irritable, and I am believing in myself more and more. I have started getting on this site religiously, and making some good contacts. So far, I have saved over $100! WHY DID I CHEW FOR SO LONG!!!????

I know that it isn't over, and that I need to post roll everyday for the rest of my quit life. But I just wanted to note how great I am feeling on Day 14. I am really saddened and pissed for those cavers yesterday. Either they go back to being addicted, or they will start this shit all over again. BLAH! Thanks to all my supporters! I love getting texts, whether they are to motivate me to stay quit today, or to call me a HOMO, I love the texts.


Quit reason #shit, I can't remember what number I am on- FREEDOM!!!!


QUIT LIKE FUCK!!!
QLAFM!!!!
'clap' Very nice post sir.
Freedom rock does it not? Savor it. Never let it evade you.
I ask myself the same question. Why did I wait so long to quit!?

Congrats on the two weeks!

STAY QUIT
Greg
Nice work bro.
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: Ready on August 02, 2012, 10:30:00 PM
Quote from: Souliman
Quote from: Greg5280
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: Mthomas3824
Quote from: dr_jones_25
So, I am 2 weeks deep, and my quit is so damn strong right now! Craves are turning into motivation to quit. My gums are starting to feel so much better. I am beginning to be less irritable, and I am believing in myself more and more. I have started getting on this site religiously, and making some good contacts. So far, I have saved over $100! WHY DID I CHEW FOR SO LONG!!!????

I know that it isn't over, and that I need to post roll everyday for the rest of my quit life. But I just wanted to note how great I am feeling on Day 14. I am really saddened and pissed for those cavers yesterday. Either they go back to being addicted, or they will start this shit all over again. BLAH! Thanks to all my supporters! I love getting texts, whether they are to motivate me to stay quit today, or to call me a HOMO, I love the texts.


Quit reason #shit, I can't remember what number I am on- FREEDOM!!!!


QUIT LIKE FUCK!!!
QLAFM!!!!
'clap' Very nice post sir.
Freedom rock does it not? Savor it. Never let it evade you.
I ask myself the same question. Why did I wait so long to quit!?

Congrats on the two weeks!

STAY QUIT
Greg
Nice work bro.
Freedom is worth it. Well done.

P.S. It gets way better.
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: rangy96 on August 03, 2012, 08:12:00 AM
Quote from: Ready
Quote from: Souliman
Quote from: Greg5280
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: Mthomas3824
Quote from: dr_jones_25
So, I am 2 weeks deep, and my quit is so damn strong right now! Craves are turning into motivation to quit. My gums are starting to feel so much better. I am beginning to be less irritable, and I am believing in myself more and more. I have started getting on this site religiously, and making some good contacts. So far, I have saved over $100! WHY DID I CHEW FOR SO LONG!!!????

I know that it isn't over, and that I need to post roll everyday for the rest of my quit life. But I just wanted to note how great I am feeling on Day 14. I am really saddened and pissed for those cavers yesterday. Either they go back to being addicted, or they will start this shit all over again. BLAH! Thanks to all my supporters! I love getting texts, whether they are to motivate me to stay quit today, or to call me a HOMO, I love the texts.


Quit reason #shit, I can't remember what number I am on- FREEDOM!!!!


QUIT LIKE FUCK!!!
QLAFM!!!!
'clap' Very nice post sir.
Freedom rock does it not? Savor it. Never let it evade you.
I ask myself the same question. Why did I wait so long to quit!?

Congrats on the two weeks!

STAY QUIT
Greg
Nice work bro.
Freedom is worth it. Well done.

P.S. It gets way better.
Ride that quit wave brother. Ride that thang.
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: dr_jones_25 on August 04, 2012, 06:40:00 PM
So, I just want to comment about caving. STOP IT!!!! I am doing great with my quit......currently. I know that I will have some bad days, so I am taking this opportunity to throw my hand out to anyone who is in need, and beg that you take it and let's quit. I feel that maybe I haven't fully invited the rest of you to join me, and quit with me. None of us came here to cave, so what is happening?? I keep looking at the list of October Madmen (and women) and think, how many of these people will be raising their arms in victory with me at HOF? And how many of these people will be re-treads, starting to post in another group? I have had to say "NO" to nicotine about 1,987,237,876,322 times since 15 days ago. WE ARE ALL GOING THROUGH THE SAME SHIT!! There is no GOOD reason to cave. Let me know if there is anything I can do to help in your fight. This offer is extended to any person, in any fucking group, in any fucking time zone! 'qt'


Let's go....... 'Finger'
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: dr_jones_25 on August 09, 2012, 04:37:00 AM
So, son of a bitch, 3 weeks. I am so happy to be on this journey right now. And yes, it is a journey. In the past I have made efforts to quit, but I know in the bottom of my heart, I am here to live the rest of my life quit. I never thought I would care so much about a group of guys that I just met 3 weeks ago! Really? This is the craziest, most SANE concept in the world. I don't really know anything about the majority of you, but I do know, we share one common theme, we are addicts. That common trait that we share, has made me friends with some of the greatest, strongest, coolest people I have met in a long time. I know that I am on a great path with some kick ass people. Thanks KTC for giving me my freedom, and allowing me to live a nic free life. I am happy!! :D
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: eric71 on August 09, 2012, 05:19:00 AM
Quote from: dr_jones_25
So, son of a bitch, 3 weeks. I am so happy to be on this journey right now. And yes, it is a journey. In the past I have made efforts to quit, but I know in the bottom of my heart, I am here to live the rest of my life quit. I never thought I would care so much about a group of guys that I just met 3 weeks ago! Really? This is the craziest, most SANE concept in the world. I don't really know anything about the majority of you, but I do know, we share one common theme, we are addicts. That common trait that we share, has made me friends with some of the greatest, strongest, coolest people I have met in a long time. I know that I am on a great path with some kick ass people. Thanks KTC for giving me my freedom, and allowing me to live a nic free life. I am happy!! :D
Congrats on the 3 weeks Doc. Glad to be on this journey with you as well. Whatever road I'm on, it's always reassuring to know there's a doctor in the house.

QLAFM
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: Wt57 on August 09, 2012, 06:54:00 AM
Quote from: Eric71
Quote from: dr_jones_25
So, son of a bitch, 3 weeks. I am so happy to be on this journey right now. And yes, it is a journey. In the past I have made efforts to quit, but I know in the bottom of my heart, I am here to live the rest of my life quit. I never thought I would care so much about a group of guys that I just met 3 weeks ago! Really? This is the craziest, most SANE concept in the world. I don't really know anything about the majority of you, but I do know, we share one common theme, we are addicts. That common trait that we share, has made me friends with some of the greatest, strongest, coolest people I have met in a long time. I know that I am on a great path with some kick ass people. Thanks KTC for giving me my freedom, and allowing me to live a nic free life. I am happy!! :D
Congrats on the 3 weeks Doc. Glad to be on this journey with you as well. Whatever road I'm on, it's always reassuring to know there's a doctor in the house.

QLAFM
I agree w/ Eric! But a gynocologist?
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: Bruce on August 09, 2012, 10:46:00 AM
Quote from: Wt57
Quote from: Eric71
Quote from: dr_jones_25
So, son of a bitch, 3 weeks. I am so happy to be on this journey right now. And yes, it is a journey. In the past I have made efforts to quit, but I know in the bottom of my heart, I am here to live the rest of my life quit. I never thought I would care so much about a group of guys that I just met 3 weeks ago! Really? This is the craziest, most SANE concept in the world. I don't really know anything about the majority of you, but I do know, we share one common theme, we are addicts. That common trait that we share, has made me friends with some of the greatest, strongest, coolest people I have met in a long time. I know that I am on a great path with some kick ass people. Thanks KTC for giving me my freedom, and allowing me to live a nic free life. I am happy!! :D
Congrats on the 3 weeks Doc. Glad to be on this journey with you as well. Whatever road I'm on, it's always reassuring to know there's a doctor in the house.

QLAFM
I agree w/ Eric! But a gynocologist?
KTC gave you the tools for freedom, but you took it back brother. YOU made the decision to quit and YOU are getting stronger because of it. Keep kicking ass brother, one day at a time!
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: dr_jones_25 on August 20, 2012, 01:48:00 AM
Wow, just over a month now and things are sailing!!! But, here comes a new challenge. I have been smooth sailing for a few weeks now, and lately I have been having some MAJOR craves. The craves that get me thinking there is no way in hell I can do this forever. Even though I go day by day, I just can't imagine FOREVER!! Now, I am in Phoenix by myself. The only person I have to hold me accountable is me.......and me alone. Sure I post roll, and I am accountable to everyone on the site. But in actuality, I am only accountable to myself for the next 2 months. FUCK ME!!! My quit has been so strong up until this point. Now I am afraid. I have numbers and I have daily texts, and I WILL stay quit.....but this is going to be a true test to my self control.
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: Tsmith17 on August 20, 2012, 02:42:00 AM
Quote from: dr_jones_25
Wow, just over a month now and things are sailing!!! But, here comes a new challenge. I have been smooth sailing for a few weeks now, and lately I have been having some MAJOR craves. The craves that get me thinking there is no way in hell I can do this forever. Even though I go day by day, I just can't imagine FOREVER!! Now, I am in Phoenix by myself. The only person I have to hold me accountable is me.......and me alone. Sure I post roll, and I am accountable to everyone on the site. But in actuality, I am only accountable to myself for the next 2 months. FUCK ME!!! My quit has been so strong up until this point. Now I am afraid. I have numbers and I have daily texts, and I WILL stay quit.....but this is going to be a true test to my self control.
I understand what you are talking about Docta. I remember the first weekend I was truly alone with myself for the first time since I began my quit. I had a very intense crave. It was difficult but I overcame it. You will do the same. I know this. You have numbers and you have this site. Post roll every day and you can and WILL get through this. Remember this as well. With every new obstacle and challenge to your quit that you overcome, your quit will become stronger and you will be able to deal with things much more easily in the future. You got this Dr.
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: kana on August 20, 2012, 09:53:00 AM
Quote from: tsmith17
Quote from: dr_jones_25
Wow, just over a month now and things are sailing!!! But, here comes a new challenge. I have been smooth sailing for a few weeks now, and lately I have been having some MAJOR craves. The craves that get me thinking there is no way in hell I can do this forever. Even though I go day by day, I just can't imagine FOREVER!! Now, I am in Phoenix by myself. The only person I have to hold me accountable is me.......and me alone. Sure I post roll, and I am accountable to everyone on the site. But in actuality, I am only accountable to myself for the next 2 months. FUCK ME!!! My quit has been so strong up until this point. Now I am afraid. I have numbers and I have daily texts, and I WILL stay quit.....but this is going to be a true test to my self control.
I understand what you are talking about Docta. I remember the first weekend I was truly alone with myself for the first time since I began my quit. I had a very intense crave. It was difficult but I overcame it. You will do the same. I know this. You have numbers and you have this site. Post roll every day and you can and WILL get through this. Remember this as well. With every new obstacle and challenge to your quit that you overcome, your quit will become stronger and you will be able to deal with things much more easily in the future. You got this Dr.
At the end of the day you are all you got. What separates us addicts from from normal people is we're strong mother fuckers. No prisoners.
Forever is a dangerous word. Day by Day. One day at a time. Be strong today, and you'll be even stronger tomorrow. remember you're accountable to us and we got your back. PS, I live in Phoenix - check your inbox....
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: eric71 on August 20, 2012, 10:10:00 PM
Quote from: kana
Quote from: tsmith17
Quote from: dr_jones_25
Wow, just over a month now and things are sailing!!! But, here comes a new challenge. I have been smooth sailing for a few weeks now, and lately I have been having some MAJOR craves. The craves that get me thinking there is no way in hell I can do this forever. Even though I go day by day, I just can't imagine FOREVER!! Now, I am in Phoenix by myself. The only person I have to hold me accountable is me.......and me alone. Sure I post roll, and I am accountable to everyone on the site. But in actuality, I am only accountable to myself for the next 2 months. FUCK ME!!! My quit has been so strong up until this point. Now I am afraid. I have numbers and I have daily texts, and I WILL stay quit.....but this is going to be a true test to my self control.
I understand what you are talking about Docta. I remember the first weekend I was truly alone with myself for the first time since I began my quit. I had a very intense crave. It was difficult but I overcame it. You will do the same. I know this. You have numbers and you have this site. Post roll every day and you can and WILL get through this. Remember this as well. With every new obstacle and challenge to your quit that you overcome, your quit will become stronger and you will be able to deal with things much more easily in the future. You got this Dr.
At the end of the day you are all you got. What separates us addicts from from normal people is we're strong mother fuckers. No prisoners.
Forever is a dangerous word. Day by Day. One day at a time. Be strong today, and you'll be even stronger tomorrow. remember you're accountable to us and we got your back. PS, I live in Phoenix - check your inbox....
You need help, you reach out to me or another one of your quit brothers in October. Here for you whenever, nicotine marine, first in, last out, no one left behind.

In my and in my life, till the end.

QLAFM
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: kstampfly on August 20, 2012, 10:22:00 PM
Quote from: Eric71
Quote from: kana
Quote from: tsmith17
Quote from: dr_jones_25
Wow, just over a month now and things are sailing!!! But, here comes a new challenge. I have been smooth sailing for a few weeks now, and lately I have been having some MAJOR craves. The craves that get me thinking there is no way in hell I can do this forever. Even though I go day by day, I just can't imagine FOREVER!! Now, I am in Phoenix by myself. The only person I have to hold me accountable is me.......and me alone. Sure I post roll, and I am accountable to everyone on the site. But in actuality, I am only accountable to myself for the next 2 months. FUCK ME!!! My quit has been so strong up until this point. Now I am afraid. I have numbers and I have daily texts, and I WILL stay quit.....but this is going to be a true test to my self control.
I understand what you are talking about Docta. I remember the first weekend I was truly alone with myself for the first time since I began my quit. I had a very intense crave. It was difficult but I overcame it. You will do the same. I know this. You have numbers and you have this site. Post roll every day and you can and WILL get through this. Remember this as well. With every new obstacle and challenge to your quit that you overcome, your quit will become stronger and you will be able to deal with things much more easily in the future. You got this Dr.
At the end of the day you are all you got. What separates us addicts from from normal people is we're strong mother fuckers. No prisoners.
Forever is a dangerous word. Day by Day. One day at a time. Be strong today, and you'll be even stronger tomorrow. remember you're accountable to us and we got your back. PS, I live in Phoenix - check your inbox....
You need help, you reach out to me or another one of your quit brothers in October. Here for you whenever, nicotine marine, first in, last out, no one left behind.

In my and in my life, till the end.

QLAFM
You got this Dr J. Your October brothers got your back as well and we will not let you fail. Stay strong, stay quit!!!!
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: mich 34 on August 20, 2012, 10:54:00 PM
Quote from: kstampfly
Quote from: Eric71
Quote from: kana
Quote from: tsmith17
Quote from: dr_jones_25
Wow, just over a month now and things are sailing!!! But, here comes a new challenge. I have been smooth sailing for a few weeks now, and lately I have been having some MAJOR craves. The craves that get me thinking there is no way in hell I can do this forever. Even though I go day by day, I just can't imagine FOREVER!! Now, I am in Phoenix by myself. The only person I have to hold me accountable is me.......and me alone. Sure I post roll, and I am accountable to everyone on the site. But in actuality, I am only accountable to myself for the next 2 months. FUCK ME!!! My quit has been so strong up until this point. Now I am afraid. I have numbers and I have daily texts, and I WILL stay quit.....but this is going to be a true test to my self control.
I understand what you are talking about Docta. I remember the first weekend I was truly alone with myself for the first time since I began my quit. I had a very intense crave. It was difficult but I overcame it. You will do the same. I know this. You have numbers and you have this site. Post roll every day and you can and WILL get through this. Remember this as well. With every new obstacle and challenge to your quit that you overcome, your quit will become stronger and you will be able to deal with things much more easily in the future. You got this Dr.
At the end of the day you are all you got. What separates us addicts from from normal people is we're strong mother fuckers. No prisoners.
Forever is a dangerous word. Day by Day. One day at a time. Be strong today, and you'll be even stronger tomorrow. remember you're accountable to us and we got your back. PS, I live in Phoenix - check your inbox....
You need help, you reach out to me or another one of your quit brothers in October. Here for you whenever, nicotine marine, first in, last out, no one left behind.

In my and in my life, till the end.

QLAFM
You got this Dr J. Your October brothers got your back as well and we will not let you fail. Stay strong, stay quit!!!!
Dr. I'm happy to trade numbers if you want more. Fuck yes you can do this. Drop the fear of failure and kick that nic bitch down! Don't fail, don't be afraid - quit
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: dr_jones_25 on September 25, 2012, 06:00:00 PM
So, these fucking dip dreams are happening more and more frequently. I'm actually doing great with the craves, they barely happen anymore. I don't think about it much, but I am dreaming about having a dip now, and they are so real that I feel like posting my cave on the site as soon as I get up. Anyone relate to this psychological bullshit?? 'Crazy'
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: Skoal Monster on September 25, 2012, 10:52:00 PM
Quote from: dr_jones_25
So, these fucking dip dreams are happening more and more frequently. I'm actually doing great with the craves, they barely happen anymore. I don't think about it much, but I am dreaming about having a dip now, and they are so real that I feel like posting my cave on the site as soon as I get up. Anyone relate to this psychological bullshit?? 'Crazy'
The Chewing Dream

Chewing dreams are common if not universal among ex-chewers. It is especially common when a person is off a short time period, and if it occurs within days or weeks of quitting, it is likely to be extremely disturbing and very realistic. Realistic enough in fact that the ex-dipper will wake-up smelling and tasting a chew, convinced that he or she has actually chewed.

The dream can be interpreted in one of two ways upon awakening, and quite often, the ex-Chewer takes it as a sign that they actually want to chew. After all, they had been off chewing and just dreamt about it that means they want to chew, right?

I used to get calls in the middle of the night for clinic participants panicked by the dream. They would start off saying, "They canÂ’t believe it, off all this time and they still want to chew." They knew they wanted to chew because they dreamt about it. I would then ask them to describe the dream. They would tell about the vividness and realism, and they would almost always say it started to take on a nightmarish proportion. They would wake up in a sweat, often crying, thinking that they just chewed and blew the whole thing, that they were now back to square one. That all that time off chewing was wasted.

As soon as they would finish describing their feelings, I pointed out one very obvious fact. They just dreamt they chewed and assumed that meant that they wanted to chew. They woke up and upon further clarification, they describe the dream was a nightmare. This is not the dream of someone who wants to chew; it is the dream of someone who is afraid of chewing. This is a legitimate fear considering the ex-dipper is fighting a powerful and deadly addiction. Hence, it is a legitimate dream too. It kind of gives you a sense of how bad you would feel if you actually do go back to chewing. Not physically speaking but psychologically. If the dream is a nightmare it makes you realize how bad this feeling is without having to actually have chewed and fallen into the grasp of nicotine addiction again. It can give you some perspective about how important not chewing is to your mental health.

The dangerous dream is when you chew a whole can in it, have the aching gums and tongue sores, get socially ostracized, develop some horrible illness, end up on your death bed about to let out your final live breath—and all of a sudden wake up with a smile on your face and say, "that was great, wish I could do that when I am awake." As long as that is not the dream you were having, I wouldn’t let myself get to discouraged by it. In regards to chewing, no matter what you do in your dreams you will be OK as long as you remember in your waking state to Never Take Another Chew!
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: dr_jones_25 on September 25, 2012, 11:10:00 PM
Quote from: Skoal
Quote from: dr_jones_25
So, these fucking dip dreams are happening more and more frequently. I'm actually doing great with the craves, they barely happen anymore. I don't think about it much, but I am dreaming about having a dip now, and they are so real that I feel like posting my cave on the site as soon as I get up. Anyone relate to this psychological bullshit?? 'Crazy'
The Chewing Dream

Chewing dreams are common if not universal among ex-chewers. It is especially common when a person is off a short time period, and if it occurs within days or weeks of quitting, it is likely to be extremely disturbing and very realistic. Realistic enough in fact that the ex-dipper will wake-up smelling and tasting a chew, convinced that he or she has actually chewed.

The dream can be interpreted in one of two ways upon awakening, and quite often, the ex-Chewer takes it as a sign that they actually want to chew. After all, they had been off chewing and just dreamt about it that means they want to chew, right?

I used to get calls in the middle of the night for clinic participants panicked by the dream. They would start off saying, "They canÂ’t believe it, off all this time and they still want to chew." They knew they wanted to chew because they dreamt about it. I would then ask them to describe the dream. They would tell about the vividness and realism, and they would almost always say it started to take on a nightmarish proportion. They would wake up in a sweat, often crying, thinking that they just chewed and blew the whole thing, that they were now back to square one. That all that time off chewing was wasted.

As soon as they would finish describing their feelings, I pointed out one very obvious fact. They just dreamt they chewed and assumed that meant that they wanted to chew. They woke up and upon further clarification, they describe the dream was a nightmare. This is not the dream of someone who wants to chew; it is the dream of someone who is afraid of chewing. This is a legitimate fear considering the ex-dipper is fighting a powerful and deadly addiction. Hence, it is a legitimate dream too. It kind of gives you a sense of how bad you would feel if you actually do go back to chewing. Not physically speaking but psychologically. If the dream is a nightmare it makes you realize how bad this feeling is without having to actually have chewed and fallen into the grasp of nicotine addiction again. It can give you some perspective about how important not chewing is to your mental health.

The dangerous dream is when you chew a whole can in it, have the aching gums and tongue sores, get socially ostracized, develop some horrible illness, end up on your death bed about to let out your final live breath—and all of a sudden wake up with a smile on your face and say, "that was great, wish I could do that when I am awake." As long as that is not the dream you were having, I wouldn’t let myself get to discouraged by it. In regards to chewing, no matter what you do in your dreams you will be OK as long as you remember in your waking state to Never Take Another Chew!
Thanks for the post. My dreams are definitely not triggers by any means, but more so a reminder that this isn't over. I hate that they are so real. Like you said, it's an emotional failure. I just hope that they are less intense moving forward and they don't happen so frequently. Yes, it's just a dream, but I hate the feeling it brings with it.
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: eric71 on September 26, 2012, 06:05:00 AM
Quote from: dr_jones_25
Quote from: Skoal
Quote from: dr_jones_25
So, these fucking dip dreams are happening more and more frequently. I'm actually doing great with the craves, they barely happen anymore. I don't think about it much, but I am dreaming about having a dip now, and they are so real that I feel like posting my cave on the site as soon as I get up. Anyone relate to this psychological bullshit?? 'Crazy'
The Chewing Dream

Chewing dreams are common if not universal among ex-chewers. It is especially common when a person is off a short time period, and if it occurs within days or weeks of quitting, it is likely to be extremely disturbing and very realistic. Realistic enough in fact that the ex-dipper will wake-up smelling and tasting a chew, convinced that he or she has actually chewed.

The dream can be interpreted in one of two ways upon awakening, and quite often, the ex-Chewer takes it as a sign that they actually want to chew. After all, they had been off chewing and just dreamt about it that means they want to chew, right?

I used to get calls in the middle of the night for clinic participants panicked by the dream. They would start off saying, "They can�t believe it, off all this time and they still want to chew." They knew they wanted to chew because they dreamt about it. I would then ask them to describe the dream. They would tell about the vividness and realism, and they would almost always say it started to take on a nightmarish proportion. They would wake up in a sweat, often crying, thinking that they just chewed and blew the whole thing, that they were now back to square one. That all that time off chewing was wasted.

As soon as they would finish describing their feelings, I pointed out one very obvious fact. They just dreamt they chewed and assumed that meant that they wanted to chew. They woke up and upon further clarification, they describe the dream was a nightmare. This is not the dream of someone who wants to chew; it is the dream of someone who is afraid of chewing. This is a legitimate fear considering the ex-dipper is fighting a powerful and deadly addiction. Hence, it is a legitimate dream too. It kind of gives you a sense of how bad you would feel if you actually do go back to chewing. Not physically speaking but psychologically. If the dream is a nightmare it makes you realize how bad this feeling is without having to actually have chewed and fallen into the grasp of nicotine addiction again. It can give you some perspective about how important not chewing is to your mental health.

The dangerous dream is when you chew a whole can in it, have the aching gums and tongue sores, get socially ostracized, develop some horrible illness, end up on your death bed about to let out your final live breath�and all of a sudden wake up with a smile on your face and say, "that was great, wish I could do that when I am awake." As long as that is not the dream you were having, I wouldn�t let myself get to discouraged by it. In regards to chewing, no matter what you do in your dreams you will be OK as long as you remember in your waking state to Never Take Another Chew!
Thanks for the post. My dreams are definitely not triggers by any means, but more so a reminder that this isn't over. I hate that they are so real. Like you said, it's an emotional failure. I just hope that they are less intense moving forward and they don't happen so frequently. Yes, it's just a dream, but I hate the feeling it brings with it.
Doc,

Haven't had the experience of a dip dream yet so I can't be much of a sounding board for that but I would try to use it as a motivational tool for yourself. Look at it this way, your commitment to your quit is so strong that the urges and craves do not exist in your conscious state. It is only during a state of sleep that the addict behavior can rear its ugly head and attempt to attack your subconscious state of mind. That, in my book, is a powerful quit brother. I am proud to be quit with you again today.
Title: Re: "Every thing I do.......I do it for chew"
Post by: dr_jones_25 on September 26, 2012, 11:40:00 PM
Quote from: Eric71
Quote from: dr_jones_25
Quote from: Skoal
Quote from: dr_jones_25
So, these fucking dip dreams are happening more and more frequently. I'm actually doing great with the craves, they barely happen anymore. I don't think about it much, but I am dreaming about having a dip now, and they are so real that I feel like posting my cave on the site as soon as I get up. Anyone relate to this psychological bullshit?? 'Crazy'
The Chewing Dream

Chewing dreams are common if not universal among ex-chewers. It is especially common when a person is off a short time period, and if it occurs within days or weeks of quitting, it is likely to be extremely disturbing and very realistic. Realistic enough in fact that the ex-dipper will wake-up smelling and tasting a chew, convinced that he or she has actually chewed.

The dream can be interpreted in one of two ways upon awakening, and quite often, the ex-Chewer takes it as a sign that they actually want to chew. After all, they had been off chewing and just dreamt about it that means they want to chew, right?

I used to get calls in the middle of the night for clinic participants panicked by the dream. They would start off saying, "They can�t believe it, off all this time and they still want to chew." They knew they wanted to chew because they dreamt about it. I would then ask them to describe the dream. They would tell about the vividness and realism, and they would almost always say it started to take on a nightmarish proportion. They would wake up in a sweat, often crying, thinking that they just chewed and blew the whole thing, that they were now back to square one. That all that time off chewing was wasted.

As soon as they would finish describing their feelings, I pointed out one very obvious fact. They just dreamt they chewed and assumed that meant that they wanted to chew. They woke up and upon further clarification, they describe the dream was a nightmare. This is not the dream of someone who wants to chew; it is the dream of someone who is afraid of chewing. This is a legitimate fear considering the ex-dipper is fighting a powerful and deadly addiction. Hence, it is a legitimate dream too. It kind of gives you a sense of how bad you would feel if you actually do go back to chewing. Not physically speaking but psychologically. If the dream is a nightmare it makes you realize how bad this feeling is without having to actually have chewed and fallen into the grasp of nicotine addiction again. It can give you some perspective about how important not chewing is to your mental health.

The dangerous dream is when you chew a whole can in it, have the aching gums and tongue sores, get socially ostracized, develop some horrible illness, end up on your death bed about to let out your final live breath�and all of a sudden wake up with a smile on your face and say, "that was great, wish I could do that when I am awake." As long as that is not the dream you were having, I wouldn�t let myself get to discouraged by it. In regards to chewing, no matter what you do in your dreams you will be OK as long as you remember in your waking state to Never Take Another Chew!
Thanks for the post. My dreams are definitely not triggers by any means, but more so a reminder that this isn't over. I hate that they are so real. Like you said, it's an emotional failure. I just hope that they are less intense moving forward and they don't happen so frequently. Yes, it's just a dream, but I hate the feeling it brings with it.
Doc,

Haven't had the experience of a dip dream yet so I can't be much of a sounding board for that but I would try to use it as a motivational tool for yourself. Look at it this way, your commitment to your quit is so strong that the urges and craves do not exist in your conscious state. It is only during a state of sleep that the addict behavior can rear its ugly head and attempt to attack your subconscious state of mind. That, in my book, is a powerful quit brother. I am proud to be quit with you again today.
Thanks for the support Eric. I love that you are part of the October Madman group!!! Quit with you!