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Offline LLCope

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Re: 10 years dipping
« Reply #39 on: August 02, 2011, 08:45:00 PM »
Embrace the suck---let the nic bitch show how much you are addicted---SO YOU NEVER FORGET. JUST QUIT TODAY--THAT'S YOUR ONLY JOB--THEN REPEAT PLEDGE TOMORROW---WE ARE WITH YOU.

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Re: 10 years dipping
« Reply #38 on: August 02, 2011, 08:24:00 PM »
Welcome. It's going to suck, but if I can do it, you can do it. Yell if you need anything.
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Re: 10 years dipping
« Reply #37 on: August 02, 2011, 08:06:00 PM »
Quote from: ninereasons
You, sir, are a stand-up guy to come back and say that. Hats off.

I am here to help, and I am not alone.
Impressive. Take a lot of balls to publicly see the error of your ways. You'll need those balls during your quit.

The first three days suck, but you'll never have to do them again.

Proud to be quit with you.
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"He which hath no stomach to this fight let him depart. But we in it shall be remembered. We few, we happy few, we band of brothers! For he today, that sheds his blood with me, shall always be my brother." (Wm. Shakespeare). For August '11.

Who dares, wins.

Stay quit... it is life or death and that is the undeniable truth.

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Re: 10 years dipping
« Reply #36 on: August 02, 2011, 08:04:00 PM »
I've been following the discussion but haven't commented as of yet and now can't help it. Highwayman, you also made my day, you sir are a badass quitter. I'm proud of your quit and proud to be quit with you. Thank you for impacting MY quit today, I also am stronger because of you. You sound like a fighter, the nic bitch better look out. My money is on you today.

Denny
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Re: 10 years dipping
« Reply #35 on: August 02, 2011, 07:59:00 PM »
You, sir, are a stand-up guy to come back and say that. Hats off.

I am here to help, and I am not alone.
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Re: 10 years dipping
« Reply #34 on: August 02, 2011, 07:56:00 PM »
I will post your name up for you today. Today is day 1. Tomorrow is day 2. First, and foremost. I want to thank you. This is the most awesome thing that happened to me today. Quit today and I quit with you.

You are the man.
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Re: 10 years dipping
« Reply #33 on: August 02, 2011, 07:56:00 PM »
I look forward to quitting with you. I am 9 days in and going strong. See you at roll call in the am.
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Offline Highwayman1890

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Re: 10 years dipping
« Reply #32 on: August 02, 2011, 07:48:00 PM »
Fuck. That seems to be the overall word that seems to circle around, and around, and around in my mind. It's there because I'm wrong and I've spent 2 days defending an idea-- a perspective that I thought was right in the beginning but seems after reading research, testimonials, postings, and responses on this site-- seems inexperienced. I've argued, thought, argued, fought, and argued and no one's stance on the matter ever changed. The scary thing about those who won't compromise their belief for a "better way", or a newer way is that they don't make excuses either. I figure that's a pretty good way to live. I also figure that this site is full of nicotine free, violently angry (sometimes) people who are trying to make a perpetual change in their life. One that wouldn't need to be made if dipping wasn't so damn convenient, and so damn temporarily effective. So, starting right now at 6:40 pm I'm nicotine free. No gum, no nothing. I AM sick of the excuses and you guys just sat there while I basically ripped into everything you've accomplished, everything you've gone through and just kept on. I guess this is my roll call for the day ( I still can't say I totally get how to do that yet) and another one will be in tomorrow morning around 8:30am). After roughly 10 years, 4 months and five pieces of nicotine gum I'm out.


---See you boys in the mornin'.
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Re: 10 years dipping
« Reply #31 on: August 02, 2011, 07:42:00 PM »
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... tell me whatever the fuck you want to because I'm done listening.
We shall, even after you're done listening, tell you stuff you don't want to hear. If that means our outreach sucks, that's because we're not selling anything. (Unlike the gum manufacturer).
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Offline dchogs

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Re: 10 years dipping
« Reply #30 on: August 02, 2011, 07:42:00 PM »
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Look, I could give a fuck if you mock me. If you were really concerned about addiction each and every one of you would give up drinking, another chemical addiction we don't talk about on the boards because it's not what you want to quit, not what you choose to give up. But you're not. You're concerned with promoting your own philosophy and running off anyone who doesn't totally agree. How many people do you think you've turned off because you act like children replying to their posts? How man people could you have fucking helped? That's what you should be concerned about before you start passing judgement. You have a great support system for each other but your outreach is bullshit. I'll quit but I'm sure as fuck not buying into any of this. So tell me you've seen it before, tell me I'm gonna fail by starting with nic gum, tell me whatever the fuck you want to because I'm done listening.
Whatever, dude. Either quit, listen to the advice and help you asked for, or take off. If you know better than a site full of actual quitters and refuse to listen to the collective wisdom on the site, why the fuck are you even here?

Ditch the nrt, post roll, and watch the support roll in.

Or

Continue to do it your way. Alone.

Your call.
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"He which hath no stomach to this fight let him depart. But we in it shall be remembered. We few, we happy few, we band of brothers! For he today, that sheds his blood with me, shall always be my brother." (Wm. Shakespeare). For August '11.

Who dares, wins.

Stay quit... it is life or death and that is the undeniable truth.

"To be driven by our appetites alone is slavery, while to obey a law that we have imposed on ourselves is freedom." Rosseau

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Re: 10 years dipping
« Reply #29 on: August 02, 2011, 07:24:00 PM »
I tried nicotine replacement the old fashioned way, not once but many times.

1. Skoal was burning a hole in my lip. I bought a can of Copenhagen and tapered off my Skoal use, until soon I was successfully sucking Cope full time.
2. Cope makes me gag. I bought a bag of Redman and gradually completely replaced my need for Copenhagen.
3. Redman is too sweet and rotted my teeth. I bought a pack of Nicorettes and soon wasn't using Redman at all.
4. Nicorettes gave me a sick headache. I bought a can of Skoal.

Yes. I am being a smartass.

I know that the idea of gradual reduction is to make withdrawal easier. I won't say it doesn't work as far as that goes. But increase your chance of success? 35+ years of experience calls this FRAUD.

If you do not sustain your resolve to quit, you cannot stay quit by any method. If you become completely and unalterably committed, you will quit and you will stay that way. Otherwise, the "method" makes absolutely zero difference in the end. That is our point. That's why we don't put any stock in "treatments'. All of our emphasis is on building resolve and accountability.

The gap between "reduction" and "quit" is infinite. Complacency, and delusions of dependency, are your most deadly enemies - and a "reduction" strategy is premised on the delusion of dependency.

ONLY the passion to stay quit will keep you quit. That's the "method" you'll see promoted here. Maybe we should call it HOT Turkey.
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Re: 10 years dipping
« Reply #28 on: August 02, 2011, 07:20:00 PM »
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Look, I could give a fuck if you mock me. If you were really concerned about addiction each and every one of you would give up drinking, another chemical addiction we don't talk about on the boards because it's not what you want to quit, not what you choose to give up. But you're not. You're concerned with promoting your own philosophy and running off anyone who doesn't totally agree. How many people do you think you've turned off because you act like children replying to their posts? How man people could you have fucking helped? That's what you should be concerned about before you start passing judgement. You have a great support system for each other but your outreach is bullshit. I'll quit but I'm sure as fuck not buying into any of this. So tell me you've seen it before, tell me I'm gonna fail by starting with nic gum, tell me whatever the fuck you want to because I'm done listening.
Although not the main purpose of this site, there is an alcohol support group here as well. I read that thread everyday. There are a bunch of dual quitters in there, but you have to be nic free to go there, and I suggest you do when you quit nic.

I honestly think the other quit site will let you post while on your NRT plan. Please understand that my advice comes from the perspective of a nic gum user. I can't make you follow my advice, but if you post here, I'm going to give it to you. Also, please re-read my post and I think you'll note that I said I would support you if you were ever nic free. I just know the statistics say you are more likely to be quit on August 29 if you do it our way than if you follow your plan below.

By the way, if we weren't concerned about helping you get quit, there would be nothing here but your first post.
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Re: 10 years dipping
« Reply #27 on: August 02, 2011, 07:05:00 PM »
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Look, I could give a fuck if you mock me. If you were really concerned about addiction each and every one of you would give up drinking, another chemical addiction we don't talk about on the boards because it's not what you want to quit, not what you choose to give up. But you're not. You're concerned with promoting your own philosophy and running off anyone who doesn't totally agree. How many people do you think you've turned off because you act like children replying to their posts? How man people could you have fucking helped? That's what you should be concerned about before you start passing judgement. You have a great support system for each other but your outreach is bullshit. I'll quit but I'm sure as fuck not buying into any of this. So tell me you've seen it before, tell me I'm gonna fail by starting with nic gum, tell me whatever the fuck you want to because I'm done listening.
No worries. When you are ready I am behind you.
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Re: 10 years dipping
« Reply #26 on: August 02, 2011, 06:56:00 PM »
Look, I could give a fuck if you mock me. If you were really concerned about addiction each and every one of you would give up drinking, another chemical addiction we don't talk about on the boards because it's not what you want to quit, not what you choose to give up. But you're not. You're concerned with promoting your own philosophy and running off anyone who doesn't totally agree. How many people do you think you've turned off because you act like children replying to their posts? How man people could you have fucking helped? That's what you should be concerned about before you start passing judgement. You have a great support system for each other but your outreach is bullshit. I'll quit but I'm sure as fuck not buying into any of this. So tell me you've seen it before, tell me I'm gonna fail by starting with nic gum, tell me whatever the fuck you want to because I'm done listening.
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Re: 10 years dipping
« Reply #25 on: August 02, 2011, 06:50:00 PM »
The only way to QUIT is cold turkey. Man up Bro and throw away the patches and gum. You need to feel that NIC coming out of your body.
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