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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: Bug Guy on February 02, 2019, 05:39:30 PM
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So today marks the 30th day without nicotine, no dip cold turkey! Took me a couple weeks after my quit on my own to stumble across KTC, and another few days to get registered and join the BMFers of April, but I'm glad I did. Thankfully as i was trying to find my group, Hilltop reached out and PM me, brought me into the fold. For that i am grateful, thanks brother. So if any of you who are reading this stumble across a lost soul like me who needs some guidance, please do as hilltop did for me, reach out, and get them on track. I may not post as much as other guys, but i do jump on frequently to read the stories of others who have/are going through the same thing. It's a good place to lift your spirits, gain motivation, and get to know fellow quitters. You are all alright in my book. To the BMFers of April 'shots' Here's to the next 30 days
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So today marks the 30th day without nicotine, no dip cold turkey! Took me a couple weeks after my quit on my own to stumble across KTC, and another few days to get registered and join the BMFers of April, but I'm glad I did. Thankfully as i was trying to find my group, Hilltop reached out and PM me, brought me into the fold. For that i am grateful, thanks brother. So if any of you who are reading this stumble across a lost soul like me who needs some guidance, please do as hilltop did for me, reach out, and get them on track. I may not post as much as other guys, but i do jump on frequently to read the stories of others who have/are going through the same thing. It's a good place to lift your spirits, gain motivation, and get to know fellow quitters. You are all alright in my book. To the BMFers of April 'shots' Here's to the next 30 days
Brother, I’m grateful for the kudos. But more than that, I’m super stoked to have you here with April throwing the middle finger to tobacco. Nicotine sucks, and quitting deserves the seriousness that you’re giving it. Keep the path and have a time doing it!!
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So today marks the 30th day without nicotine, no dip cold turkey! Took me a couple weeks after my quit on my own to stumble across KTC, and another few days to get registered and join the BMFers of April, but I'm glad I did. Thankfully as i was trying to find my group, Hilltop reached out and PM me, brought me into the fold. For that i am grateful, thanks brother. So if any of you who are reading this stumble across a lost soul like me who needs some guidance, please do as hilltop did for me, reach out, and get them on track. I may not post as much as other guys, but i do jump on frequently to read the stories of others who have/are going through the same thing. It's a good place to lift your spirits, gain motivation, and get to know fellow quitters. You are all alright in my book. To the BMFers of April 'shots' Here's to the next 30 days
From a fellow April quitter, Ohioan and Buckeye fan, welcome to the BMF’ers of quitting. Proud to quit with you today, and if you need digits, give me a PM. Go Bucks!
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So today marks the 30th day without nicotine, no dip cold turkey! Took me a couple weeks after my quit on my own to stumble across KTC, and another few days to get registered and join the BMFers of April, but I'm glad I did. Thankfully as i was trying to find my group, Hilltop reached out and PM me, brought me into the fold. For that i am grateful, thanks brother. So if any of you who are reading this stumble across a lost soul like me who needs some guidance, please do as hilltop did for me, reach out, and get them on track. I may not post as much as other guys, but i do jump on frequently to read the stories of others who have/are going through the same thing. It's a good place to lift your spirits, gain motivation, and get to know fellow quitters. You are all alright in my book. To the BMFers of April 'shots' Here's to the next 30 days
From a fellow April quitter, Ohioan and Buckeye fan, welcome to the BMF’ers of quitting. Proud to quit with you today, and if you need digits, give me a PM. Go Bucks!
Thanks for the support and just know it goes both ways. You ever need a friendly kick in the ass too to say no to the lip shit, hit me up. Or even if you are like me and want to rant and rave when the bucks are doing bad, I'm cool with that too. Truth be told, college football season is going to be the roughest part of quitting. That's why i waited until Buckeye football was over to quit. Shit i would have at least 4 dips during one game just to make it through. So i am at least putting a good amount of time in between football starting back up in order to kick nic for good. But i know it's going to be my hardest trigger. So I'm definitely going to need ya guys when that day comes this fall lol. Again thank you for the support and know I'm here for you, the BMFers of April, and anyone else out there who is ready to quit too. O-H! and GO BUCKS!
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So today marks the 30th day without nicotine, no dip cold turkey! Took me a couple weeks after my quit on my own to stumble across KTC, and another few days to get registered and join the BMFers of April, but I'm glad I did. Thankfully as i was trying to find my group, Hilltop reached out and PM me, brought me into the fold. For that i am grateful, thanks brother. So if any of you who are reading this stumble across a lost soul like me who needs some guidance, please do as hilltop did for me, reach out, and get them on track. I may not post as much as other guys, but i do jump on frequently to read the stories of others who have/are going through the same thing. It's a good place to lift your spirits, gain motivation, and get to know fellow quitters. You are all alright in my book. To the BMFers of April 'shots' Here's to the next 30 days
Brother, I’m grateful for the kudos. But more than that, I’m super stoked to have you here with April throwing the middle finger to tobacco. Nicotine sucks, and quitting deserves the seriousness that you’re giving it. Keep the path and have a time doing it!!
ABSOLUTELY! Gotta give credit where credit is due. There's a good chance i would have given up on this site and then who knows what may have happened from there... So again, I'm extremely thankful for the support and just know i am here as well if you ever need help staying on the path too. Let's keep kicking ass and saying 'fuz' to the nic bitch!
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So today marks the 30th day without nicotine, no dip cold turkey! Took me a couple weeks after my quit on my own to stumble across KTC,
I too rolled solo before joining up here, 27 days solo. I don't think it's natural for men, at least not American men, to reach out and ask for help. That was a huge step for me. Glad you're here and rolling free, it's the only way to be. April has turned out to be one dynamic month of remarkable men. You're going to fit right in.
Had some issues every 20 days or so in the first 100. Reach out, you'll end up helping the guy you ask for help. Any time two quitters get together both are edified. As iron sharpens iron....
IQWYT
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From a Spartan to a Buckeye -welcome.
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So today marks the 30th day without nicotine, no dip cold turkey! Took me a couple weeks after my quit on my own to stumble across KTC,
I too rolled solo before joining up here, 27 days solo. I don't think it's natural for men, at least not American men, to reach out and ask for help. That was a huge step for me. Glad you're here and rolling free, it's the only way to be. April has turned out to be one dynamic month of remarkable men. You're going to fit right in.
Had some issues every 20 days or so in the first 100. Reach out, you'll end up helping the guy you ask for help. Any time two quitters get together both are edified. As iron sharpens iron....
IQWYT
I'm glad that I'm here too, finding a lot of good people here. I also seem to go through phases where im good to go for a few days and then out of nowhere, my jaw starts hurting and im fiending for a dip. Thankfully I've had grinds coffe pouches to help with the rough days, just to have something to put between the gum n cheek to replicate that 'ol feel. But i do appreciate the words of wisdom and look forward to hitting those huge milestones that you and others hit before us. And I also quit with you today!
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From a Spartan to a Buckeye -welcome.
Thanks Sparty brethren! Just glad you didn't say wolverine 'puking'
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So today marks the 30th day without nicotine, no dip cold turkey! Took me a couple weeks after my quit on my own to stumble across KTC, and another few days to get registered and join the BMFers of April, but I'm glad I did. Thankfully as i was trying to find my group, Hilltop reached out and PM me, brought me into the fold. For that i am grateful, thanks brother. So if any of you who are reading this stumble across a lost soul like me who needs some guidance, please do as hilltop did for me, reach out, and get them on track. I may not post as much as other guys, but i do jump on frequently to read the stories of others who have/are going through the same thing. It's a good place to lift your spirits, gain motivation, and get to know fellow quitters. You are all alright in my book. To the BMFers of April 'shots' Here's to the next 30 days
From a fellow April quitter, Ohioan and Buckeye fan, welcome to the BMF’ers of quitting. Proud to quit with you today, and if you need digits, give me a PM. Go Bucks!
Thanks for the support and just know it goes both ways. You ever need a friendly kick in the ass too to say no to the lip shit, hit me up. Or even if you are like me and want to rant and rave when the bucks are doing bad, I'm cool with that too. Truth be told, college football season is going to be the roughest part of quitting. That's why i waited until Buckeye football was over to quit. Shit i would have at least 4 dips during one game just to make it through. So i am at least putting a good amount of time in between football starting back up in order to kick nic for good. But i know it's going to be my hardest trigger. So I'm definitely going to need ya guys when that day comes this fall lol. Again thank you for the support and know I'm here for you, the BMFers of April, and anyone else out there who is ready to quit too. O-H! and GO BUCKS!
I-O! Brother. Football season will be a test for our quit, I second that. We’ve got each other’s digits, let’s keep each other straight. Four dips in a game...I’ve crushed half a can in a close one, and you know what last year was like! We’ll be well down the road by then. Go Bucks!
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So today marks the 30th day without nicotine, no dip cold turkey! Took me a couple weeks after my quit on my own to stumble across KTC, and another few days to get registered and join the BMFers of April, but I'm glad I did. Thankfully as i was trying to find my group, Hilltop reached out and PM me, brought me into the fold. For that i am grateful, thanks brother. So if any of you who are reading this stumble across a lost soul like me who needs some guidance, please do as hilltop did for me, reach out, and get them on track. I may not post as much as other guys, but i do jump on frequently to read the stories of others who have/are going through the same thing. It's a good place to lift your spirits, gain motivation, and get to know fellow quitters. You are all alright in my book. To the BMFers of April 'shots' Here's to the next 30 days
From a fellow April quitter, Ohioan and Buckeye fan, welcome to the BMF’ers of quitting. Proud to quit with you today, and if you need digits, give me a PM. Go Bucks!
Thanks for the support and just know it goes both ways. You ever need a friendly kick in the ass too to say no to the lip shit, hit me up. Or even if you are like me and want to rant and rave when the bucks are doing bad, I'm cool with that too. Truth be told, college football season is going to be the roughest part of quitting. That's why i waited until Buckeye football was over to quit. Shit i would have at least 4 dips during one game just to make it through. So i am at least putting a good amount of time in between football starting back up in order to kick nic for good. But i know it's going to be my hardest trigger. So I'm definitely going to need ya guys when that day comes this fall lol. Again thank you for the support and know I'm here for you, the BMFers of April, and anyone else out there who is ready to quit too. O-H! and GO BUCKS!
I-O! Brother. Football season will be a test for our quit, I second that. We’ve got each other’s digits, let’s keep each other straight. Four dips in a game...I’ve crushed half a can in a close one, and you know what last year was like! We’ll be well down the road by then. Go Bucks!
I actually don't have your number, but i do believe i sent you mine, at least i think i did. Shit i can't keep things straight. If not, i will send them over.
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So here's my original intro that i left on the main site page prior to getting registered:
January 21, 2019 at 10:28 pm
Been dipping since i was 13, crazy right?! But here i am 23 years later and i am on day #18 of being quit. It’s been rough, headaches, grinding teeth, sore throat, etc…. but I’m not giving up this go around. Quit back in 2005 when i left for Army basic training, upon completion i immediately started back up. So this go around i hope i can lean on ya guys from time to time as i set out for my first goal, day 100!
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So here's my original intro that i left on the main site page prior to getting registered:
January 21, 2019 at 10:28 pm
Been dipping since i was 13, crazy right?! But here i am 23 years later and i am on day #18 of being quit. It’s been rough, headaches, grinding teeth, sore throat, etc…. but I’m not giving up this go around. Quit back in 2005 when i left for Army basic training, upon completion i immediately started back up. So this go around i hope i can lean on ya guys from time to time as i set out for my first goal, day 100!
Damn proud to quit with you EDD Steve!! Its been a pleasure to get to know you and I love what you bring to April. Thanks for strengthening my quit and super stoked to be boarding the same train as you bud.
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So here i am, 86 days into my quit, and feeling pretty damn good. But also in the back of mind, still upset that my words help give that nudge to push a fellow quit brother out the door of ktc. I have spoken with him and we have made amends. He promised that he is still quit, but just doesn't care for the amount of negativity around this site, his words. I don't see trying to keep fellow brothers honest in their quit as negative. But that is my own personal point of view. I know i am not solely responsible for his leaving us, he made that decision. In fact, he had thought about it early on in his quit and had seemed to have already had his mind made up. But like i said, his exodus came to fruition due to my confrontation with him, and for that i am truly sorry.
But on a side note, I'm extremely proud, grateful, and honored to be a part of the APRIL BMFERS! In 5 days we will have our first 2 bad ass mother fuckers of quit boarding that HOF train, and I couldn't be more excited for this moment. More so than my own. Yeah it's really cool i will be 100 days really soon too, but it's you guys who i am most excited for, a bunch of strangers who took me into their ranks and made me feel like family. You truly are my brothers, who helped save my life. I love you guys for it, and will never forget you as long as i have breath in my body
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So here i am, 86 days into my quit, and feeling pretty damn good. But also in the back of mind, still upset that my words help give that nudge to push a fellow quit brother out the door of ktc. I have spoken with him and we have made amends. He promised that he is still quit, but just doesn't care for the amount of negativity around this site, his words. I don't see trying to keep fellow brothers honest in their quit as negative. But that is my own personal point of view. I know i am not solely responsible for his leaving us, he made that decision. In fact, he had thought about it early on in his quit and had seemed to have already had his mind made up. But like i said, his exodus came to fruition due to my confrontation with him, and for that i am truly sorry.
But on a side note, I'm extremely proud, grateful, and honored to be a part of the APRIL BMFERS! In 5 days we will have our first 2 bad ass mother fuckers of quit boarding that HOF train, and I couldn't be more excited for this moment. More so than my own. Yeah it's really cool i will be 100 days really soon too, but it's you guys who i am most excited for, a bunch of strangers who took me into their ranks and made me feel like family. You truly are my brothers, who helped save my life. I love you guys for it, and will never forget you as long as i have breath in my body
There are no shortage of excuses. He sought for and found one. I'd rather he stuck it out to 100 instead of using you as an excuse to leave. As much as I love you (and I do love you in all of your hot manliness!) I do not give you power to make my decisions for me. That I save just for me. Glad you stuck it out and didn't throw in the towel because he did. If we all take our ball and go home, there's no game at all.
Quitting with you again today!
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So here i am, 86 days into my quit, and feeling pretty damn good. But also in the back of mind, still upset that my words help give that nudge to push a fellow quit brother out the door of ktc. I have spoken with him and we have made amends. He promised that he is still quit, but just doesn't care for the amount of negativity around this site, his words. I don't see trying to keep fellow brothers honest in their quit as negative. But that is my own personal point of view. I know i am not solely responsible for his leaving us, he made that decision. In fact, he had thought about it early on in his quit and had seemed to have already had his mind made up. But like i said, his exodus came to fruition due to my confrontation with him, and for that i am truly sorry.
But on a side note, I'm extremely proud, grateful, and honored to be a part of the APRIL BMFERS! In 5 days we will have our first 2 bad ass mother fuckers of quit boarding that HOF train, and I couldn't be more excited for this moment. More so than my own. Yeah it's really cool i will be 100 days really soon too, but it's you guys who i am most excited for, a bunch of strangers who took me into their ranks and made me feel like family. You truly are my brothers, who helped save my life. I love you guys for it, and will never forget you as long as i have breath in my body
There are no shortage of excuses. He sought for and found one. I'd rather he stuck it out to 100 instead of using you as an excuse to leave. As much as I love you (and I do love you in all of your hot manliness!) I do not give you power to make my decisions for me. That I save just for me. Glad you stuck it out and didn't throw in the towel because he did. If we all take our ball and go home, there's no game at all.
Quitting with you again today!
Thanks Athan, you always have a way of words. Love you too, even though you're Navy lol. But in all seriousness, I know I don't make anyone's decisions, I get that. The point was that HE decided to call it quits after MY confrontation with him. Yes, I didn't make that decision for him, but I did help give him that nudge that we all believe he was needing. Sucks I had to be the one to do it. I do hope he stays quit even without this site, though the odds say otherwise. Maybe one day he will return and fully embrace this site and find guys like you Athan, who make it worth coming back to. I truly enjoy the bonds and friendships that have been created through this site, there isn't a bunch of assholes I would rather be around than you guys!
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So here i am, 86 days into my quit, and feeling pretty damn good. But also in the back of mind, still upset that my words help give that nudge to push a fellow quit brother out the door of ktc. I have spoken with him and we have made amends. He promised that he is still quit, but just doesn't care for the amount of negativity around this site, his words. I don't see trying to keep fellow brothers honest in their quit as negative. But that is my own personal point of view. I know i am not solely responsible for his leaving us, he made that decision. In fact, he had thought about it early on in his quit and had seemed to have already had his mind made up. But like i said, his exodus came to fruition due to my confrontation with him, and for that i am truly sorry.
But on a side note, I'm extremely proud, grateful, and honored to be a part of the APRIL BMFERS! In 5 days we will have our first 2 bad ass mother fuckers of quit boarding that HOF train, and I couldn't be more excited for this moment. More so than my own. Yeah it's really cool i will be 100 days really soon too, but it's you guys who i am most excited for, a bunch of strangers who took me into their ranks and made me feel like family. You truly are my brothers, who helped save my life. I love you guys for it, and will never forget you as long as i have breath in my body
There are no shortage of excuses. He sought for and found one. I'd rather he stuck it out to 100 instead of using you as an excuse to leave. As much as I love you (and I do love you in all of your hot manliness!) I do not give you power to make my decisions for me. That I save just for me. Glad you stuck it out and didn't throw in the towel because he did. If we all take our ball and go home, there's no game at all.
Quitting with you again today!
Thanks Athan, you always have a way of words. Love you too, even though you're Navy lol. But in all seriousness, I know I don't make anyone's decisions, I get that. The point was that HE decided to call it quits after MY confrontation with him. Yes, I didn't make that decision for him, but I did help give him that nudge that we all believe he was needing. Sucks I had to be the one to do it. I do hope he stays quit even without this site, though the odds say otherwise. Maybe one day he will return and fully embrace this site and find guys like you Athan, who make it worth coming back to. I truly enjoy the bonds and friendships that have been created through this site, there isn't a bunch of assholes I would rather be around than you guys!
I came from a quitting support group site where accountability was allowed to take a back seat. The results have not been good. Abysmal, in fact. That is why I came over to KTC. I know accountability is a crucial aspect of quitting. Without it, the whole thing falls apart. Without it, places like KTC would not exist, and I would probably have a fat lipper in at the moment or be dead instead sitting here writing this.
I have been on the same end of those confrontations where someone decides to leave the site on account of me insisting on accountability. I have felt like shit about it many times. Still do. However, I still choose the potential confrontation over keeping my mouth shut. Accountability is life or death for us. I thank you for defending it as such.
The so-called 'negativity' on the site is all how one looks at it. I do not see any negativity directed towards people who are not messing around. Anything that can be construed as 'negative' is basically calling someone out for not meeting the expectations of KTC or the group. Yeah, sometimes harsh language is used, but that is what usually gets an addict's attention. That's something to keep in mind--when we are calling someone out for not meeting KTC's or the group's expectations--we are addressing the deceitful, lying addict. The addiction co-opts our brains so that we can't differentiate lies from reality. The addict is running the show, but we are not even aware of it. I am also sure the addiction hides with, and is closely intertwined with, the ego. One of the unstated features I see in this KTC quitting business is the proper amount of dissolution of the ego. If you cannot dissolve it enough, you are probably going to be miserable until you sooner or later go back to using again. And then be miserable while using. In my case, 7 more years of misery brought me to my knees and to the point where I was willing to let go of the hate I had for quit sites and quit groups and to buy into the system.
One thing you hear all the time is something to the effect of: "You gotta be all in for this to work." Just think what that is really saying. That is a revolutionary statement. My life changed the second I comprehended that it meant exactly what it said. Some addicts are still not willing to go all in, and their actions and attitudes will reflect that. It is pretty obvious most of the time. That is why retreads are worked over good and well. We want to make sure they are buying into the system 100%, and not repeating same old minimal effort thing. Sometimes, we get fooled again because we have to rely on their words before their actions.
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So here i am, 86 days into my quit, and feeling pretty damn good. But also in the back of mind, still upset that my words help give that nudge to push a fellow quit brother out the door of ktc. I have spoken with him and we have made amends. He promised that he is still quit, but just doesn't care for the amount of negativity around this site, his words. I don't see trying to keep fellow brothers honest in their quit as negative. But that is my own personal point of view. I know i am not solely responsible for his leaving us, he made that decision. In fact, he had thought about it early on in his quit and had seemed to have already had his mind made up. But like i said, his exodus came to fruition due to my confrontation with him, and for that i am truly sorry.
But on a side note, I'm extremely proud, grateful, and honored to be a part of the APRIL BMFERS! In 5 days we will have our first 2 bad ass mother fuckers of quit boarding that HOF train, and I couldn't be more excited for this moment. More so than my own. Yeah it's really cool i will be 100 days really soon too, but it's you guys who i am most excited for, a bunch of strangers who took me into their ranks and made me feel like family. You truly are my brothers, who helped save my life. I love you guys for it, and will never forget you as long as i have breath in my body
There are no shortage of excuses. He sought for and found one. I'd rather he stuck it out to 100 instead of using you as an excuse to leave. As much as I love you (and I do love you in all of your hot manliness!) I do not give you power to make my decisions for me. That I save just for me. Glad you stuck it out and didn't throw in the towel because he did. If we all take our ball and go home, there's no game at all.
Quitting with you again today!
Thanks Athan, you always have a way of words. Love you too, even though you're Navy lol. But in all seriousness, I know I don't make anyone's decisions, I get that. The point was that HE decided to call it quits after MY confrontation with him. Yes, I didn't make that decision for him, but I did help give him that nudge that we all believe he was needing. Sucks I had to be the one to do it. I do hope he stays quit even without this site, though the odds say otherwise. Maybe one day he will return and fully embrace this site and find guys like you Athan, who make it worth coming back to. I truly enjoy the bonds and friendships that have been created through this site, there isn't a bunch of assholes I would rather be around than you guys!
I came from a quitting support group site where accountability was allowed to take a back seat. The results have not been good. Abysmal, in fact. That is why I came over to KTC. I know accountability is a crucial aspect of quitting. Without it, the whole thing falls apart. Without it, places like KTC would not exist, and I would probably have a fat lipper in at the moment or be dead instead sitting here writing this.
I have been on the same end of those confrontations where someone decides to leave the site on account of me insisting on accountability. I have felt like shit about it many times. Still do. However, I still choose the potential confrontation over keeping my mouth shut. Accountability is life or death for us. I thank you for defending it as such.
The so-called 'negativity' on the site is all how one looks at it. I do not see any negativity directed towards people who are not messing around. Anything that can be construed as 'negative' is basically calling someone out for not meeting the expectations of KTC or the group. Yeah, sometimes harsh language is used, but that is what usually gets an addict's attention. That's something to keep in mind--when we are calling someone out for not meeting KTC's or the group's expectations--we are addressing the deceitful, lying addict. The addiction co-opts our brains so that we can't differentiate lies from reality. The addict is running the show, but we are not even aware of it. I am also sure the addiction hides with, and is closely intertwined with, the ego. One of the unstated features I see in this KTC quitting business is the proper amount of dissolution of the ego. If you cannot dissolve it enough, you are probably going to be miserable until you sooner or later go back to using again. And then be miserable while using. In my case, 7 more years of misery brought me to my knees and to the point where I was willing to let go of the hate I had for quit sites and quit groups and to buy into the system.
One thing you hear all the time is something to the effect of: "You gotta be all in for this to work." Just think what that is really saying. That is a revolutionary statement. My life changed the second I comprehended that it meant exactly what it said. Some addicts are still not willing to go all in, and their actions and attitudes will reflect that. It is pretty obvious most of the time. That is why retreads are worked over good and well. We want to make sure they are buying into the system 100%, and not repeating same old minimal effort thing. Sometimes, we get fooled again because we have to rely on their words before their actions.
This is why i love this site and the great group of people who bring such a vaste wealth of knowledge! You couldn't be more right about the addict inside ALL of us. Unfortunately it controls some of us more so than it does others. But as long as we, to touch on your last point, "buy in 100%", we can lean on each other and beat the nic bitch back together. But a lot of guys fear committing themselves 100%, whether it's due to previous failures, fear of letting down those around them, or just creating themselves that escape hatch just in case. I stress it at home with my kids and at work with my employees, don't tell me what you are going to do, just prove it by doing it. I thank you for sharing your wisdom, and look forward to another 100 with you, but of course, ODAAT
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So here i am, 86 days into my quit, and feeling pretty damn good. But also in the back of mind, still upset that my words help give that nudge to push a fellow quit brother out the door of ktc. I have spoken with him and we have made amends. He promised that he is still quit, but just doesn't care for the amount of negativity around this site, his words. I don't see trying to keep fellow brothers honest in their quit as negative. But that is my own personal point of view. I know i am not solely responsible for his leaving us, he made that decision. In fact, he had thought about it early on in his quit and had seemed to have already had his mind made up. But like i said, his exodus came to fruition due to my confrontation with him, and for that i am truly sorry.
But on a side note, I'm extremely proud, grateful, and honored to be a part of the APRIL BMFERS! In 5 days we will have our first 2 bad ass mother fuckers of quit boarding that HOF train, and I couldn't be more excited for this moment. More so than my own. Yeah it's really cool i will be 100 days really soon too, but it's you guys who i am most excited for, a bunch of strangers who took me into their ranks and made me feel like family. You truly are my brothers, who helped save my life. I love you guys for it, and will never forget you as long as i have breath in my body
There are no shortage of excuses. He sought for and found one. I'd rather he stuck it out to 100 instead of using you as an excuse to leave. As much as I love you (and I do love you in all of your hot manliness!) I do not give you power to make my decisions for me. That I save just for me. Glad you stuck it out and didn't throw in the towel because he did. If we all take our ball and go home, there's no game at all.
Quitting with you again today!
Thanks Athan, you always have a way of words. Love you too, even though you're Navy lol. But in all seriousness, I know I don't make anyone's decisions, I get that. The point was that HE decided to call it quits after MY confrontation with him. Yes, I didn't make that decision for him, but I did help give him that nudge that we all believe he was needing. Sucks I had to be the one to do it. I do hope he stays quit even without this site, though the odds say otherwise. Maybe one day he will return and fully embrace this site and find guys like you Athan, who make it worth coming back to. I truly enjoy the bonds and friendships that have been created through this site, there isn't a bunch of assholes I would rather be around than you guys!
I came from a quitting support group site where accountability was allowed to take a back seat. The results have not been good. Abysmal, in fact. That is why I came over to KTC. I know accountability is a crucial aspect of quitting. Without it, the whole thing falls apart. Without it, places like KTC would not exist, and I would probably have a fat lipper in at the moment or be dead instead sitting here writing this.
I have been on the same end of those confrontations where someone decides to leave the site on account of me insisting on accountability. I have felt like shit about it many times. Still do. However, I still choose the potential confrontation over keeping my mouth shut. Accountability is life or death for us. I thank you for defending it as such.
The so-called 'negativity' on the site is all how one looks at it. I do not see any negativity directed towards people who are not messing around. Anything that can be construed as 'negative' is basically calling someone out for not meeting the expectations of KTC or the group. Yeah, sometimes harsh language is used, but that is what usually gets an addict's attention. That's something to keep in mind--when we are calling someone out for not meeting KTC's or the group's expectations--we are addressing the deceitful, lying addict. The addiction co-opts our brains so that we can't differentiate lies from reality. The addict is running the show, but we are not even aware of it. I am also sure the addiction hides with, and is closely intertwined with, the ego. One of the unstated features I see in this KTC quitting business is the proper amount of dissolution of the ego. If you cannot dissolve it enough, you are probably going to be miserable until you sooner or later go back to using again. And then be miserable while using. In my case, 7 more years of misery brought me to my knees and to the point where I was willing to let go of the hate I had for quit sites and quit groups and to buy into the system.
One thing you hear all the time is something to the effect of: "You gotta be all in for this to work." Just think what that is really saying. That is a revolutionary statement. My life changed the second I comprehended that it meant exactly what it said. Some addicts are still not willing to go all in, and their actions and attitudes will reflect that. It is pretty obvious most of the time. That is why retreads are worked over good and well. We want to make sure they are buying into the system 100%, and not repeating same old minimal effort thing. Sometimes, we get fooled again because we have to rely on their words before their actions.
This is why i love this site and the great group of people who bring such a vaste wealth of knowledge! You couldn't be more right about the addict inside ALL of us. Unfortunately it controls some of us more so than it does others. But as long as we, to touch on your last point, "buy in 100%", we can lean on each other and beat the nic bitch back together. But a lot of guys fear committing themselves 100%, whether it's due to previous failures, fear of letting down those around them, or just creating themselves that escape hatch just in case. I stress it at home with my kids and at work with my employees, don't tell me what you are going to do, just prove it by doing it. I thank you for sharing your wisdom, and look forward to another 100 with you, but of course, ODAAT
Keep kicking ass man! It's a constant battle with daily celebrations of small victories. As long as it is always moving forward, each day is in the "win" column!
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Bug,
Dropping in to give ya some Love Brother, Congrats on being over 100 Days! Thank you for your daily support in May 19. You are a Badass Quitter and one I am proud to call a Brother! On Day at a time, we do this together!
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Wow! Day 86 is the last time I made a post here. 307 days in and I must say....the vets were right when they said, "it does get better". Being nic free has been difficult, but well worth the struggle! What makes my quit so great, is getting to meet so many new quitters who are going through the same suck that i went through just over 300 days ago. And whether they know it or not, my getting to help them helps me just as much as it does them. We must keep paying it forward, that's how KTC works so well. Its has saved my life, hopefully it will save yours.
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1 year ago today I said no more and killed the can. Feels great to no longer be her slave. Never thought i would make it here. But I'm proud of where I'm at today. Told my 15 yo son how long it's been and he just smiled. I was 2 years younger than him when I started, and I'm just so happy he has never been as dumb as me and become an addict. As long as he keeps it out of his veins, he will enjoy a life nic free without ever knowing the struggle of being an addict. He told me he will never partake in nicotine and for that I am grateful. He will be the one in a long line of nic abusers in my family to never allow it to enter his body. If my quitting 1 year ago helps him to avoid all of this, then it was most certainly worth it. Thank you KTC and all the wonderful family I've picked up along the way. I love you all, for making me a better me.
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1 year ago today I said no more and killed the can. Feels great to no longer be her slave. Never thought i would make it here. But I'm proud of where I'm at today. Told my 15 yo son how long it's been and he just smiled. I was 2 years younger than him when I started, and I'm just so happy he has never been as dumb as me and become an addict. As long as he keeps it out of his veins, he will enjoy a life nic free without ever knowing the struggle of being an addict. He told me he will never partake in nicotine and for that I am grateful. He will be the one in a long line of nic abusers in my family to never allow it to enter his body. If my quitting 1 year ago helps him to avoid all of this, then it was most certainly worth it. Thank you KTC and all the wonderful family I've picked up along the way. I love you all, for making me a better me.
We love you too brother, you make this a better place. Great job paying it forward.
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1 year ago today I said no more and killed the can. Feels great to no longer be her slave. Never thought i would make it here. But I'm proud of where I'm at today. Told my 15 yo son how long it's been and he just smiled. I was 2 years younger than him when I started, and I'm just so happy he has never been as dumb as me and become an addict. As long as he keeps it out of his veins, he will enjoy a life nic free without ever knowing the struggle of being an addict. He told me he will never partake in nicotine and for that I am grateful. He will be the one in a long line of nic abusers in my family to never allow it to enter his body. If my quitting 1 year ago helps him to avoid all of this, then it was most certainly worth it. Thank you KTC and all the wonderful family I've picked up along the way. I love you all, for making me a better me.
We love you too brother, you make this a better place. Great job paying it forward.
Awesome Bug Guy! My kids were also a big reason for my quit. Every good dad wants to be a positive role model and I really let them down. I not only hid a terrible habit but lied about it. I just couldn’t do it anymore. This site has been awesome for me. I hit 10 weeks today and love reading stories like yours. Congrats brother on a year quit!
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1 year ago today I said no more and killed the can. Feels great to no longer be her slave. Never thought i would make it here. But I'm proud of where I'm at today. Told my 15 yo son how long it's been and he just smiled. I was 2 years younger than him when I started, and I'm just so happy he has never been as dumb as me and become an addict. As long as he keeps it out of his veins, he will enjoy a life nic free without ever knowing the struggle of being an addict. He told me he will never partake in nicotine and for that I am grateful. He will be the one in a long line of nic abusers in my family to never allow it to enter his body. If my quitting 1 year ago helps him to avoid all of this, then it was most certainly worth it. Thank you KTC and all the wonderful family I've picked up along the way. I love you all, for making me a better me.
We love you too brother, you make this a better place. Great job paying it forward.
Awesome Bug Guy! My kids were also a big reason for my quit. Every good dad wants to be a positive role model and I really let them down. I not only hid a terrible habit but lied about it. I just couldn’t do it anymore. This site has been awesome for me. I hit 10 weeks today and love reading stories like yours. Congrats brother on a year quit!
You are the man! As good as you feel today, I promise so much more greatness is ahead! Thank you for your leadership around here!!
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1 year ago today I said no more and killed the can. Feels great to no longer be her slave. Never thought i would make it here. But I'm proud of where I'm at today. Told my 15 yo son how long it's been and he just smiled. I was 2 years younger than him when I started, and I'm just so happy he has never been as dumb as me and become an addict. As long as he keeps it out of his veins, he will enjoy a life nic free without ever knowing the struggle of being an addict. He told me he will never partake in nicotine and for that I am grateful. He will be the one in a long line of nic abusers in my family to never allow it to enter his body. If my quitting 1 year ago helps him to avoid all of this, then it was most certainly worth it. Thank you KTC and all the wonderful family I've picked up along the way. I love you all, for making me a better me.
Bug,
I gotta say man. I’m proud of you! I’ve only met ya a few days ago, but it’s nice to have someone who’s as engaged as you in the forums and peoples introductions. It’s been a big impact so far these 5 days, and I hope to be like what you are to me, to someone else when I’m where you are now. A year down the road helping newbies quit for the new year. Thanks for helping us newbies, hope to make a friend outta you!
A-Aron
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1 year ago today I said no more and killed the can. Feels great to no longer be her slave. Never thought i would make it here. But I'm proud of where I'm at today. Told my 15 yo son how long it's been and he just smiled. I was 2 years younger than him when I started, and I'm just so happy he has never been as dumb as me and become an addict. As long as he keeps it out of his veins, he will enjoy a life nic free without ever knowing the struggle of being an addict. He told me he will never partake in nicotine and for that I am grateful. He will be the one in a long line of nic abusers in my family to never allow it to enter his body. If my quitting 1 year ago helps him to avoid all of this, then it was most certainly worth it. Thank you KTC and all the wonderful family I've picked up along the way. I love you all, for making me a better me.
Bug,
I gotta say man. I’m proud of you! I’ve only met ya a few days ago, but it’s nice to have someone who’s as engaged as you in the forums and peoples introductions. It’s been a big impact so far these 5 days, and I hope to be like what you are to me, to someone else when I’m where you are now. A year down the road helping newbies quit for the new year. Thanks for helping us newbies, hope to make a friend outta you!
A-Aron
Damnit Aaron, you're alright in my book, no matter what the other newbies are saying about ya lol. Jk. I tell ya, I've had some great role models to look up to when I first joined 20 some odd days into my quit. Basically all the vets who are showing up in your group right now pledging support to you guys, thats who I had picking my ass up when I was feeling down. So I've tried to carry the torch and offer that same support to others. You know being an Army guy, when one guy falls, everyone falls in to help shoulder the load and lessen the burden. Basic fundamentals. When applied here, it really does work. But that makes me happy that I've been able to help at least one person. All I ask is that you do return the favor on down the road when your brothers or sisters can't be as strong. But I have to say, you're off to a great start. Be sure to check your inbox for my digits. PTQWYTB
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1 year ago today I said no more and killed the can. Feels great to no longer be her slave. Never thought i would make it here. But I'm proud of where I'm at today. Told my 15 yo son how long it's been and he just smiled. I was 2 years younger than him when I started, and I'm just so happy he has never been as dumb as me and become an addict. As long as he keeps it out of his veins, he will enjoy a life nic free without ever knowing the struggle of being an addict. He told me he will never partake in nicotine and for that I am grateful. He will be the one in a long line of nic abusers in my family to never allow it to enter his body. If my quitting 1 year ago helps him to avoid all of this, then it was most certainly worth it. Thank you KTC and all the wonderful family I've picked up along the way. I love you all, for making me a better me.
Bug,
I gotta say man. I’m proud of you! I’ve only met ya a few days ago, but it’s nice to have someone who’s as engaged as you in the forums and peoples introductions. It’s been a big impact so far these 5 days, and I hope to be like what you are to me, to someone else when I’m where you are now. A year down the road helping newbies quit for the new year. Thanks for helping us newbies, hope to make a friend outta you!
A-Aron
Damnit Aaron, you're alright in my book, no matter what the other newbies are saying about ya lol. Jk. I tell ya, I've had some great role models to look up to when I first joined 20 some odd days into my quit. Basically all the vets who are showing up in your group right now pledging support to you guys, thats who I had picking my ass up when I was feeling down. So I've tried to carry the torch and offer that same support to others. You know being an Army guy, when one guy falls, everyone falls in to help shoulder the load and lessen the burden. Basic fundamentals. When applied here, it really does work. But that makes me happy that I've been able to help at least one person. All I ask is that you do return the favor on down the road when your brothers or sisters can't be as strong. But I have to say, you're off to a great start. Be sure to check your inbox for my digits. PTQWYTB
Awesome stuff Bug! Keep doing what you're doing. You know it makes a difference; to your family, to newbies, to KTC.
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1 year ago today I said no more and killed the can. Feels great to no longer be her slave. Never thought i would make it here. But I'm proud of where I'm at today. Told my 15 yo son how long it's been and he just smiled. I was 2 years younger than him when I started, and I'm just so happy he has never been as dumb as me and become an addict. As long as he keeps it out of his veins, he will enjoy a life nic free without ever knowing the struggle of being an addict. He told me he will never partake in nicotine and for that I am grateful. He will be the one in a long line of nic abusers in my family to never allow it to enter his body. If my quitting 1 year ago helps him to avoid all of this, then it was most certainly worth it. Thank you KTC and all the wonderful family I've picked up along the way. I love you all, for making me a better me.
Bug,
I gotta say man. I’m proud of you! I’ve only met ya a few days ago, but it’s nice to have someone who’s as engaged as you in the forums and peoples introductions. It’s been a big impact so far these 5 days, and I hope to be like what you are to me, to someone else when I’m where you are now. A year down the road helping newbies quit for the new year. Thanks for helping us newbies, hope to make a friend outta you!
A-Aron
Damnit Aaron, you're alright in my book, no matter what the other newbies are saying about ya lol. Jk. I tell ya, I've had some great role models to look up to when I first joined 20 some odd days into my quit. Basically all the vets who are showing up in your group right now pledging support to you guys, thats who I had picking my ass up when I was feeling down. So I've tried to carry the torch and offer that same support to others. You know being an Army guy, when one guy falls, everyone falls in to help shoulder the load and lessen the burden. Basic fundamentals. When applied here, it really does work. But that makes me happy that I've been able to help at least one person. All I ask is that you do return the favor on down the road when your brothers or sisters can't be as strong. But I have to say, you're off to a great start. Be sure to check your inbox for my digits. PTQWYTB
Awesome stuff Bug! Keep doing what you're doing. You know it makes a difference; to your family, to newbies, to KTC.
Great job bug! Proud to be on your team. Keep on doing ODAAT
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Posted my 1st roll on Jan 28th 2019, not long after, tried rallying the troops.....
Post roll for the guy to your left and to the guy to your right. We are all in this together. I haven't been in this group since the beginning, but i will be damned if i let all of you guys down. I expect to be held to the same standard as all of you are being held to, and that is accountability.
In the Army we had a Warrior Ethos: I will always place the mission first, I will never accept defeat, I will never quit, and I will never leave a fallen comrade. Primary objective, staying quit. Not allowing nicotine to rule our lives, and never giving up on staying quit. Lastly, not allowing our brethren to be left behind in our fight in staying quit.
We must exhaust all avenues in keeping everyone on board and accountable. Don't try to be an individual, your are now a part of a whole, something greater than yourself. For those missing/ or being late to post roll, get your sorry asses in gear and GIFD! (Get It Fucking Done)
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Hey @Bug Guy (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1866)
Saw your post in May '20 saying you were out of here. Hope you are just blowing smoke. You are too valuable here to leave. Please reconsider if that is what you meant. We need your tenacity and commitment. Please reach out if I can help.
PTBQWYT my firmed
~HAG
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Hey @Bug Guy (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1866)
Saw your post in May '20 saying you were out of here. Hope you are just blowing smoke. You are too valuable here to leave. Please reconsider if that is what you meant. We need your tenacity and commitment. Please reach out if I can help.
PTBQWYT my firmed
~HAG
I appreciate you @EXBEARHAG (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=14879) . Right now I don't want to be here, but let's see what happens tomorrow.
QLAMFEDDWY
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Hey @Bug Guy (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1866)
Saw your post in May '20 saying you were out of here. Hope you are just blowing smoke. You are too valuable here to leave. Please reconsider if that is what you meant. We need your tenacity and commitment. Please reach out if I can help.
PTBQWYT my firmed
~HAG
I appreciate you @EXBEARHAG (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=14879) . Right now I don't want to be here, but let's see what happens tomorrow.
QLAMFEDDWY
@Bug Guy (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1866)
Roger that Brother but please remember why you (we) are here. You make a difference in people's quit. You are an asset. If I could be so bold to give you some advise...take a break and recharge. The day to day rhetoric don't mean a thing. WUPP EEDD, support others, repeat. Let everything else go.
I hope to see you back on the boards soon. I Quit With YOU Today.
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Hey @Bug Guy (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1866)
Saw your post in May '20 saying you were out of here. Hope you are just blowing smoke. You are too valuable here to leave. Please reconsider if that is what you meant. We need your tenacity and commitment. Please reach out if I can help.
PTBQWYT my firmed
~HAG
I appreciate you @EXBEARHAG (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=14879) . Right now I don't want to be here, but let's see what happens tomorrow.
QLAMFEDDWY
@Bug Guy (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1866)
Roger that Brother but please remember why you (we) are here. You make a difference in people's quit. You are an asset. If I could be so bold to give you some advise...take a break and recharge. The day to day rhetoric don't mean a thing. WUPP EEDD, support others, repeat. Let everything else go.
I hope to see you back on the boards soon. I Quit With YOU Today.
@Bug Guy (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1866) I have to add my 2 cents into this. When I signed up for KTC officially and posted my first roll. You were one of the first 3 people to contact me and interact. Since then you have been such a HUGE asset to my quit, I truly wouldn’t be this far without you brother. Like HAG said, if anything, PAG and take a break from the mainstream stuff. Stay quit, keep helping us newbies, cause you know we need it sometimes. Hate to see you go, so please stay. Proud to quit with you today and everyday my friend.
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Hey @Bug Guy (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1866)
Saw your post in May '20 saying you were out of here. Hope you are just blowing smoke. You are too valuable here to leave. Please reconsider if that is what you meant. We need your tenacity and commitment. Please reach out if I can help.
PTBQWYT my firmed
~HAG
I appreciate you @EXBEARHAG (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=14879) . Right now I don't want to be here, but let's see what happens tomorrow.
QLAMFEDDWY
@Bug Guy (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1866)
Roger that Brother but please remember why you (we) are here. You make a difference in people's quit. You are an asset. If I could be so bold to give you some advise...take a break and recharge. The day to day rhetoric don't mean a thing. WUPP EEDD, support others, repeat. Let everything else go.
I hope to see you back on the boards soon. I Quit With YOU Today.
@Bug Guy (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1866) I have to add my 2 cents into this. When I signed up for KTC officially and posted my first roll. You were one of the first 3 people to contact me and interact. Since then you have been such a HUGE asset to my quit, I truly wouldn’t be this far without you brother. Like HAG said, if anything, PAG and take a break from the mainstream stuff. Stay quit, keep helping us newbies, cause you know we need it sometimes. Hate to see you go, so please stay. Proud to quit with you today and everyday my friend.
Steve,
Take a few days or weeks and just post & Ghost. Take of your personal stuff and recharge your batteries. When you're ready, come on back and do you. Take what you need and leave the rest. I don't agree with the decision myself, but the decision was not ours to make. You and I did what we were supposed to. You do more good here than you know buddy and it would be a huge loss if you were to leave.
Text or call if you want to talk. I'm home all week.
Chris
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Hey @Bug Guy (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1866)
Saw your post in May '20 saying you were out of here. Hope you are just blowing smoke. You are too valuable here to leave. Please reconsider if that is what you meant. We need your tenacity and commitment. Please reach out if I can help.
PTBQWYT my firmed
~HAG
I appreciate you @EXBEARHAG (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=14879) . Right now I don't want to be here, but let's see what happens tomorrow.
QLAMFEDDWY
@Bug Guy (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1866)
Roger that Brother but please remember why you (we) are here. You make a difference in people's quit. You are an asset. If I could be so bold to give you some advise...take a break and recharge. The day to day rhetoric don't mean a thing. WUPP EEDD, support others, repeat. Let everything else go.
I hope to see you back on the boards soon. I Quit With YOU Today.
@Bug Guy (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1866) I have to add my 2 cents into this. When I signed up for KTC officially and posted my first roll. You were one of the first 3 people to contact me and interact. Since then you have been such a HUGE asset to my quit, I truly wouldn’t be this far without you brother. Like HAG said, if anything, PAG and take a break from the mainstream stuff. Stay quit, keep helping us newbies, cause you know we need it sometimes. Hate to see you go, so please stay. Proud to quit with you today and everyday my friend.
Steve,
Take a few days or weeks and just post & Ghost. Take of your personal stuff and recharge your batteries. When you're ready, come on back and do you. Take what you need and leave the rest. I don't agree with the decision myself, but the decision was not ours to make. You and I did what we were supposed to. You do more good here than you know buddy and it would be a huge loss if you were to leave.
Text or call if you want to talk. I'm home all week.
Chris
Steve,
I echo what Chris said. Here if you want to talk and take care of your quit.
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Hey @Bug Guy (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1866)
Saw your post in May '20 saying you were out of here. Hope you are just blowing smoke. You are too valuable here to leave. Please reconsider if that is what you meant. We need your tenacity and commitment. Please reach out if I can help.
PTBQWYT my firmed
~HAG
I appreciate you @EXBEARHAG (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=14879) . Right now I don't want to be here, but let's see what happens tomorrow.
QLAMFEDDWY
@Bug Guy (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1866)
Roger that Brother but please remember why you (we) are here. You make a difference in people's quit. You are an asset. If I could be so bold to give you some advise...take a break and recharge. The day to day rhetoric don't mean a thing. WUPP EEDD, support others, repeat. Let everything else go.
I hope to see you back on the boards soon. I Quit With YOU Today.
@Bug Guy (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1866) I have to add my 2 cents into this. When I signed up for KTC officially and posted my first roll. You were one of the first 3 people to contact me and interact. Since then you have been such a HUGE asset to my quit, I truly wouldn’t be this far without you brother. Like HAG said, if anything, PAG and take a break from the mainstream stuff. Stay quit, keep helping us newbies, cause you know we need it sometimes. Hate to see you go, so please stay. Proud to quit with you today and everyday my friend.
Steve,
Take a few days or weeks and just post & Ghost. Take of your personal stuff and recharge your batteries. When you're ready, come on back and do you. Take what you need and leave the rest. I don't agree with the decision myself, but the decision was not ours to make. You and I did what we were supposed to. You do more good here than you know buddy and it would be a huge loss if you were to leave.
Text or call if you want to talk. I'm home all week.
Chris
Steve,
I echo what Chris said. Here if you want to talk and take care of your quit.
@Bug Guy (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1866)
Steve,
I'm going to echo what everyone else said above. It's advice that you gave me when I was getting sick of all the crap that comes with KTC. P&G for a while. Things will get better. I'm a phone call or text away if you need anything.
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Hey @Bug Guy (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1866)
Saw your post in May '20 saying you were out of here. Hope you are just blowing smoke. You are too valuable here to leave. Please reconsider if that is what you meant. We need your tenacity and commitment. Please reach out if I can help.
PTBQWYT my firmed
~HAG
I appreciate you @EXBEARHAG (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=14879) . Right now I don't want to be here, but let's see what happens tomorrow.
QLAMFEDDWY
@Bug Guy (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1866)
Roger that Brother but please remember why you (we) are here. You make a difference in people's quit. You are an asset. If I could be so bold to give you some advise...take a break and recharge. The day to day rhetoric don't mean a thing. WUPP EEDD, support others, repeat. Let everything else go.
I hope to see you back on the boards soon. I Quit With YOU Today.
@Bug Guy (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1866) I have to add my 2 cents into this. When I signed up for KTC officially and posted my first roll. You were one of the first 3 people to contact me and interact. Since then you have been such a HUGE asset to my quit, I truly wouldn’t be this far without you brother. Like HAG said, if anything, PAG and take a break from the mainstream stuff. Stay quit, keep helping us newbies, cause you know we need it sometimes. Hate to see you go, so please stay. Proud to quit with you today and everyday my friend.
Steve,
Take a few days or weeks and just post & Ghost. Take of your personal stuff and recharge your batteries. When you're ready, come on back and do you. Take what you need and leave the rest. I don't agree with the decision myself, but the decision was not ours to make. You and I did what we were supposed to. You do more good here than you know buddy and it would be a huge loss if you were to leave.
Text or call if you want to talk. I'm home all week.
Chris
Steve,
I echo what Chris said. Here if you want to talk and take care of your quit.
@Bug Guy (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1866)
Steve,
I'm going to echo what everyone else said above. It's advice that you gave me when I was getting sick of all the crap that comes with KTC. P&G for a while. Things will get better. I'm a phone call or text away if you need anything.
@EXBEARHAG (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=14879) @A-Aron (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=16449) @chris2alaska (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=130) @Keith0617 (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1356) @25yeardippernomore (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=14453) you guys are amazing. I am truly honored to have such great friends/brothers looking after me. I rarely ask for anything, and maybe that's to a fault, but thank you guys for going the extra mile to let me know that you are here for me. That's why the overall theory of this site works, because of people like you. So from the bottom of my heart, thank you. You guys mean the world to me, how could I leave this kind of support behind ;D
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Special dick pics (https://www.google.com/search?q=pictures+of+richard&client=firefox-b-1-d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi0qfuDkfPoAhXYl54KHYUSAs0Q_AUoAXoECBIQAw&biw=1920&bih=888) for my buddy Bug Guy!
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Special dick pics (https://www.google.com/search?q=pictures+of+richard&client=firefox-b-1-d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi0qfuDkfPoAhXYl54KHYUSAs0Q_AUoAXoECBIQAw&biw=1920&bih=888) for my buddy Bug Guy!
That's a whole lot of dick!!!
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500 days and currently feel wore out. I don't know if it's due to all the wuhan flu quarantine crap, being stuck in the house with my wife and kids longer than I'm used to, trying to reduce my meds during all this (fucking stupid idea), all the recent drama (which shouldn't have been drama in the 1st place), having a close quit brother leave the site, or because even at 500 my mind is still trying to adjust. My best bet, it's a combination of all of the above.
But through it all, a lot of you still have had my back just as I have yours. We all have some bad days, and just know that once I move past this little blip, I will be back stronger. Still trying to take some much needed time to refocus and get my mind right. So for anyone who I have offended or have called out recently, I offer my sincere apologies. Please don't take it personally, I don't mean it as such. Unless of course I have specifically called you out by name and told you that I think you are here to troll and not wanting to do it the KTC way, you can absolutely take it personally ;D .
Do I wish today could have been more exciting, hell yeah. Does it have to be, of course not. In the grand scheme of things it's just another day. 500 is still just the beginning of my quit journey, many more days to come that will have it's ups and downs. But such is life, we can't control that. One majorly important thing we can control though is being quit for today. And I choose to do just that.
Day 500 and I am quit. Still love you guys n gals!
Strength Determination Merciless Forever// Get It Fucking Done
SDMF//GIFD
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500 days and currently feel wore out. I don't know if it's due to all the wuhan flu quarantine crap, being stuck in the house with my wife and kids longer than I'm used to, trying to reduce my meds during all this (fucking stupid idea), all the recent drama (which shouldn't have been drama in the 1st place), having a close quit brother leave the site, or because even at 500 my mind is still trying to adjust. My best bet, it's a combination of all of the above.
But through it all, a lot of you still have had my back just as I have yours. We all have some bad days, and just know that once I move past this little blip, I will be back stronger. Still trying to take some much needed time to refocus and get my mind right. So for anyone who I have offended or have called out recently, I offer my sincere apologies. Please don't take it personally, I don't mean it as such. Unless of course I have specifically called you out by name and told you that I think you are here to troll and not wanting to do it the KTC way, you can absolutely take it personally ;D .
Do I wish today could have been more exciting, hell yeah. Does it have to be, of course not. In the grand scheme of things it's just another day. 500 is still just the beginning of my quit journey, many more days to come that will have it's ups and downs. But such is life, we can't control that. One majorly important thing we can control though is being quit for today. And I choose to do just that.
Day 500 and I am quit. Still love you guys n gals!
Strength Determination Merciless Forever// Get It Fucking Done
SDMF//GIFD
Congrats BG. It's my distinct honor and privilege to be quit with you. Do your thing man!
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500 days and currently feel wore out. I don't know if it's due to all the wuhan flu quarantine crap, being stuck in the house with my wife and kids longer than I'm used to, trying to reduce my meds during all this (fucking stupid idea), all the recent drama (which shouldn't have been drama in the 1st place), having a close quit brother leave the site, or because even at 500 my mind is still trying to adjust. My best bet, it's a combination of all of the above.
But through it all, a lot of you still have had my back just as I have yours. We all have some bad days, and just know that once I move past this little blip, I will be back stronger. Still trying to take some much needed time to refocus and get my mind right. So for anyone who I have offended or have called out recently, I offer my sincere apologies. Please don't take it personally, I don't mean it as such. Unless of course I have specifically called you out by name and told you that I think you are here to troll and not wanting to do it the KTC way, you can absolutely take it personally ;D .
Do I wish today could have been more exciting, hell yeah. Does it have to be, of course not. In the grand scheme of things it's just another day. 500 is still just the beginning of my quit journey, many more days to come that will have it's ups and downs. But such is life, we can't control that. One majorly important thing we can control though is being quit for today. And I choose to do just that.
Day 500 and I am quit. Still love you guys n gals!
Strength Determination Merciless Forever// Get It Fucking Done
SDMF//GIFD
Congrats BG. It's my distinct honor and privilege to be quit with you. Do your thing man!
Congrats Steve. Keep doing what you do and let those days add up one day at a time.
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500 days and currently feel wore out. I don't know if it's due to all the wuhan flu quarantine crap, being stuck in the house with my wife and kids longer than I'm used to, trying to reduce my meds during all this (fucking stupid idea), all the recent drama (which shouldn't have been drama in the 1st place), having a close quit brother leave the site, or because even at 500 my mind is still trying to adjust. My best bet, it's a combination of all of the above.
But through it all, a lot of you still have had my back just as I have yours. We all have some bad days, and just know that once I move past this little blip, I will be back stronger. Still trying to take some much needed time to refocus and get my mind right. So for anyone who I have offended or have called out recently, I offer my sincere apologies. Please don't take it personally, I don't mean it as such. Unless of course I have specifically called you out by name and told you that I think you are here to troll and not wanting to do it the KTC way, you can absolutely take it personally ;D .
Do I wish today could have been more exciting, hell yeah. Does it have to be, of course not. In the grand scheme of things it's just another day. 500 is still just the beginning of my quit journey, many more days to come that will have it's ups and downs. But such is life, we can't control that. One majorly important thing we can control though is being quit for today. And I choose to do just that.
Day 500 and I am quit. Still love you guys n gals!
Strength Determination Merciless Forever// Get It Fucking Done
SDMF//GIFD
Congrats BG. It's my distinct honor and privilege to be quit with you. Do your thing man!
Congrats Steve. Keep doing what you do and let those days add up one day at a time.
Thanks for your help and support! All we can do is stay quit for the day, and try to make better versions of ourselves when the opportunity arises. And, don't apologize for being human...
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500 days and currently feel wore out. I don't know if it's due to all the wuhan flu quarantine crap, being stuck in the house with my wife and kids longer than I'm used to, trying to reduce my meds during all this (fucking stupid idea), all the recent drama (which shouldn't have been drama in the 1st place), having a close quit brother leave the site, or because even at 500 my mind is still trying to adjust. My best bet, it's a combination of all of the above.
But through it all, a lot of you still have had my back just as I have yours. We all have some bad days, and just know that once I move past this little blip, I will be back stronger. Still trying to take some much needed time to refocus and get my mind right. So for anyone who I have offended or have called out recently, I offer my sincere apologies. Please don't take it personally, I don't mean it as such. Unless of course I have specifically called you out by name and told you that I think you are here to troll and not wanting to do it the KTC way, you can absolutely take it personally ;D .
Do I wish today could have been more exciting, hell yeah. Does it have to be, of course not. In the grand scheme of things it's just another day. 500 is still just the beginning of my quit journey, many more days to come that will have it's ups and downs. But such is life, we can't control that. One majorly important thing we can control though is being quit for today. And I choose to do just that.
Day 500 and I am quit. Still love you guys n gals!
Strength Determination Merciless Forever// Get It Fucking Done
SDMF//GIFD
Congrats BG. It's my distinct honor and privilege to be quit with you. Do your thing man!
Congrats Steve. Keep doing what you do and let those days add up one day at a time.
Thanks for your help and support! All we can do is stay quit for the day, and try to make better versions of ourselves when the opportunity arises. And, don't apologize for being human...
Congrats Steve!
A 1/2 Dangle is better than No Dangle 'lift'
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Given that I haven't been of much help to anyone, and with the current state of affairs within my personal life, I am closing this chapter within my life. KTC will always hold a special place in my heart and what got me to "kill the can", I am eternally grateful. I will drop by time to time to say hi, but God willing, never to post a day 1 ever again. I will still keep in contact with all of you and if any of you want my number, shoot me a pm, I'll still get alerts via email. Thanks everyone, and keep kickin ass my brothers and sisters!
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Given that I haven't been of much help to anyone, and with the current state of affairs within my personal life, I am closing this chapter within my life. KTC will always hold a special place in my heart and what got me to "kill the can", I am eternally grateful. I will drop by time to time to say hi, but God willing, never to post a day 1 ever again. I will still keep in contact with all of you and if any of you want my number, shoot me a pm, I'll still get alerts via email. Thanks everyone, and keep kickin ass my brothers and sisters!
You have been helpful to me and its my turn to say THANK YOU. I am way behind you at 160 but having your insight and comments along with all the vets have helped me more than any doctor. Thank you again for all you have done brother. May God bless you in your future endeavors. You have done more than you think!!!!
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Given that I haven't been of much help to anyone, and with the current state of affairs within my personal life, I am closing this chapter within my life. KTC will always hold a special place in my heart and what got me to "kill the can", I am eternally grateful. I will drop by time to time to say hi, but God willing, never to post a day 1 ever again. I will still keep in contact with all of you and if any of you want my number, shoot me a pm, I'll still get alerts via email. Thanks everyone, and keep kickin ass my brothers and sisters!
Bro - the 'just one' moments (yeah, they're plural) are out there. You know it. I do hope you reconsider - too many retreads have told the story of woe. Hate to see you go.
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Addendum:
I will continue to post roll every day, but will be even more scarce than I have been. Nothing personal, just need to dedicate myself more to my family for a bit. Thank you all for your understanding and kind words. God bless
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Addendum:
I will continue to post roll every day, but will be even more scarce than I have been. Nothing personal, just need to dedicate myself more to my family for a bit. Thank you all for your understanding and kind words. God bless
Best wishes and thank you for all you have done for the August Ajays. We might not have ever talked a lot with eachother personally but your posts and guidance of our group, especially in the first days definitely is a major reason why I am quit today. I’m sure all the other Ajays feel the same way. Take some time for yourself and thank you for all you have done for myself and our group
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Addendum:
I will continue to post roll every day, but will be even more scarce than I have been. Nothing personal, just need to dedicate myself more to my family for a bit. Thank you all for your understanding and kind words. God bless
ah, sorry brother... I already modified the table roll for the guild... it's all MUpig ;D. and you, if your still posting roll
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Addendum:
I will continue to post roll every day, but will be even more scarce than I have been. Nothing personal, just need to dedicate myself more to my family for a bit. Thank you all for your understanding and kind words. God bless
I won't lie, I read this and thought, oh no, this is a big loss for the KTC community. Your spirit and dedication and presence here has not gone unnoticed or appreciated. But priorities are priorities and family certainly comes first. I hope you don't shut that door all the way.
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Given that I haven't been of much help to anyone, and with the current state of affairs within my personal life, I am closing this chapter within my life. KTC will always hold a special place in my heart and what got me to "kill the can", I am eternally grateful. I will drop by time to time to say hi, but God willing, never to post a day 1 ever again. I will still keep in contact with all of you and if any of you want my number, shoot me a pm, I'll still get alerts via email. Thanks everyone, and keep kickin ass my brothers and sisters!
ditto to what others are saying.
the first sentence bothers me though because you absolutely have to know it’s completely untrue. Don’t lie to yourself brother. Don’t let anyone deceive you. You have touched countless lives here with your extreme dedication and tireless efforts to be a true true quit brother. I have benefited greatly from your guidance and support. Thank you
I wish you all the best in addressing the most critical needs at home. If you approach it with the same care and dedication I have come to know from you, positive healthy outcomes, at least in part, must be forthcoming. God Bless Steve. @Bug Guy (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1866)
PS - sorry to have added to your worries through my own actions which in hindsight I can now see as inconsiderate and selfish on my part.
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Totally understand needing to dedicate your time to your family but I don't want you to think that you are in any way not helping people. I'm not very active, I never have been able to spend much time online but reading through your posts and other vets is what got me through the first few weeks of my quit which was the hardest part for me. I'm still looking you up when I get down to the ice cream shop!
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Totally understand needing to dedicate your time to your family but I don't want you to think that you are in any way not helping people. I'm not very active, I never have been able to spend much time online but reading through your posts and other vets is what got me through the first few weeks of my quit which was the hardest part for me. I'm still looking you up when I get down to the ice cream shop!
Hell yeah! And I'll be happy to visit with ya. Can't come to Lancaster without climbing our mountain, so we'll have to make arrangements to do so. Thanks for strengthening my quit brother
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Given that I haven't been of much help to anyone, and with the current state of affairs within my personal life, I am closing this chapter within my life. KTC will always hold a special place in my heart and what got me to "kill the can", I am eternally grateful. I will drop by time to time to say hi, but God willing, never to post a day 1 ever again. I will still keep in contact with all of you and if any of you want my number, shoot me a pm, I'll still get alerts via email. Thanks everyone, and keep kickin ass my brothers and sisters!
ditto to what others are saying.
the first sentence bothers me though because you absolutely have to know it’s completely untrue. Don’t lie to yourself brother. Don’t let anyone deceive you. You have touched countless lives here with your extreme dedication and tireless efforts to be a true true quit brother. I have benefited greatly from your guidance and support. Thank you
I wish you all the best in addressing the most critical needs at home. If you approach it with the same care and dedication I have come to know from you, positive healthy outcomes, at least in part, must be forthcoming. God Bless Steve. @Bug Guy (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1866)
PS - sorry to have added to your worries through my own actions which in hindsight I can now see as inconsiderate and selfish on my part.
I guess in the moment I didn't realize I had omitted the word "lately" from the first sentence. That was an error on my part. I know I have helped some folks, just as much as they have helped me. But lately, distractions have been pulling me away and I have felt like shit for neglecting this site. I don't like asking for help, which totally goes against what this site is about, but that's just how I am. But with all of you showing up and offering support all on your own accords speaks volumes of just how great this place is because of the people within it. I've gotten phone calls, texts messages, or messages on here with an outpouring of support. I love all of you guys n gals. It would be suicide to walk away from a place like this. Thank you all for everthing. I'm going to take this ODAAT and keep trucking along.
Muley, nothin but love for ya. Thank you for the apology and I completely understand your frustration. My apologies as well my friend.
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Addendum:
I will continue to post roll every day, but will be even more scarce than I have been. Nothing personal, just need to dedicate myself more to my family for a bit. Thank you all for your understanding and kind words. God bless
I won't lie, I read this and thought, oh no, this is a big loss for the KTC community. Your spirit and dedication and presence here has not gone unnoticed or appreciated. But priorities are priorities and family certainly comes first. I hope you don't shut that door all the way.
Flipp, I love you dearly. It makes it so much easier to navigate when there are people like yourself to copy from. But as you know, we don't do it for the acknowledgement, we do it because it's within us. Servant attitude: helping others in turn as an unintended benefit, helps yourself. But you're right, I've absolutely got to get my own house in order before I can be of help to others again. I'm just gonna keep driving on and take it ODAAT. Thanks for your guidance Miss Flipp, PTBQWY!
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Addendum:
I will continue to post roll every day, but will be even more scarce than I have been. Nothing personal, just need to dedicate myself more to my family for a bit. Thank you all for your understanding and kind words. God bless
Best wishes and thank you for all you have done for the August Ajays. We might not have ever talked a lot with eachother personally but your posts and guidance of our group, especially in the first days definitely is a major reason why I am quit today. I’m sure all the other Ajays feel the same way. Take some time for yourself and thank you for all you have done for myself and our group
Thank you my brother, still here quittin with you!
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Addendum:
I will continue to post roll every day, but will be even more scarce than I have been. Nothing personal, just need to dedicate myself more to my family for a bit. Thank you all for your understanding and kind words. God bless
ah, sorry brother... I already modified the table roll for the guild... it's all MUpig ;D. and you, if your still posting roll
Haha, you's a funny guy
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Given that I haven't been of much help to anyone, and with the current state of affairs within my personal life, I am closing this chapter within my life. KTC will always hold a special place in my heart and what got me to "kill the can", I am eternally grateful. I will drop by time to time to say hi, but God willing, never to post a day 1 ever again. I will still keep in contact with all of you and if any of you want my number, shoot me a pm, I'll still get alerts via email. Thanks everyone, and keep kickin ass my brothers and sisters!
You have been helpful to me and its my turn to say THANK YOU. I am way behind you at 160 but having your insight and comments along with all the vets have helped me more than any doctor. Thank you again for all you have done brother. May God bless you in your future endeavors. You have done more than you think!!!!
Thanks Frank. It means a lot to me that I have helped you in some way. It's what it's all about. But I guess I'm like a bad hemorrhoid, it's hard to get rid of me. Proud to be quit with you my friend
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Given that I haven't been of much help to anyone, and with the current state of affairs within my personal life, I am closing this chapter within my life. KTC will always hold a special place in my heart and what got me to "kill the can", I am eternally grateful. I will drop by time to time to say hi, but God willing, never to post a day 1 ever again. I will still keep in contact with all of you and if any of you want my number, shoot me a pm, I'll still get alerts via email. Thanks everyone, and keep kickin ass my brothers and sisters!
Bro - the 'just one' moments (yeah, they're plural) are out there. You know it. I do hope you reconsider - too many retreads have told the story of woe. Hate to see you go.
Ohhhh Athan, my brotha from anotha motha! Don't I know about those "just one" moments. I have reconsidered thanks to the guidance from all of you. Even though my wife wishes I wouldn't be on this site, I know without it, I'm leaving too much up to chance. 30 seconds to post roll is better than nothing for now and she will just have to accept that. Thanks again for everything my squidy friend
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Given that I haven't been of much help to anyone, and with the current state of affairs within my personal life, I am closing this chapter within my life. KTC will always hold a special place in my heart and what got me to "kill the can", I am eternally grateful. I will drop by time to time to say hi, but God willing, never to post a day 1 ever again. I will still keep in contact with all of you and if any of you want my number, shoot me a pm, I'll still get alerts via email. Thanks everyone, and keep kickin ass my brothers and sisters!
Bro - the 'just one' moments (yeah, they're plural) are out there. You know it. I do hope you reconsider - too many retreads have told the story of woe. Hate to see you go.
Ohhhh Athan, my brotha from anotha motha! Don't I know about those "just one" moments. I have reconsidered thanks to the guidance from all of you. Even though my wife wishes I wouldn't be on this site, I know without it, I'm leaving too much up to chance. 30 seconds to post roll is better than nothing for now and she will just have to accept that. Thanks again for everything my squidy friend
@Bug Guy (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1866)
Wish you the best and understand needing to focus on personal issues. Just know that your posts on KTC along with the Ajay crew has been instrumental in my quit which is now at 91 days. I was able to do something i wasn’t sure I could ever do thanks to the KTC crew.