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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: gottadoit3 on June 11, 2017, 04:23:00 AM
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I've been dipping for almost two years. One time I was able to quit for 2 months. Other times recently I've quit for a week and then relapsed. 'facepalm'' Been having pain in my gums from dipping 'bang head' then when I quit it goes away. Each time I have gone back to the can. but not this time! This is my last quit! 'finger point' If I do not follow through with this quit I will never quit. Now is the time! Just wanted to put it into words so that I had a tangible writing to go back to once I am tempted and tested.
'waiting'
'Popcorn'
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Welcome man, I'll quit with ya. While you are young in your habit, quitting now will certainly save you a lot of pain, grief, and your life! But make no mistake, cancer doesn't strike only the veteran users; it can happen to anyone no matter how long they have been using. So yea, you "gottadoit". Leave tobacco behind, its not worth it. So what's the plan?
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My plan is to every time I am tempted to just slow down and say no. I just woke up. Been awake for 15 minutes. And already twice I have thought of getting a dip almost impulsively. I'm definitely gonna try and drink a lot of water today. I know that will help. But yeah for me it's really just a matter of slowing down and saying no no matter how hard it is to do.
You know an idea that really messes with me? It's the idea of me getting like 6 or 7 or even two weeks into the quit, and then being around family I haven't seen in a while. Even if they know I quit or not, which they probably won't know I even dipped in the first place, it's the idea of seeing someone you've known for a while AFTER you've quit that messes with me. And I don't really know exactly why. Maybe it's the impulse that you want to tell them that you've quit, but then you're like no I can't do that they don't even know I did it in the first place to quit!
I know I can do this successfully. It's just that the longer time goes by the harder it is to stay quit. Because the longer I am quit the easier it is for my brain to give my body an almost subconscious justification to get another one. Oh you've gone two days, you can get one. Just one. One won't make your gums hurt, go ahead! You deserve it. That's what gets me. I've tried dipping once a week, I've tried dipping twice a week. All have failed. Either I am going to not dip at all or I am going to dip a bunch! That is the bottom line. And now I have chosen to not dip at all.
For whatever reason, with quits in the past, they will go good until a certain moment, or point. It doesn't even have to be anything bad or stressful. In fact, a lot of the times I relapsed wasn't from a stressful event, but rather something fun that happened or something that left me with a sense of accomplishment. Go out on a first date with a hottie you didn't think you'd ever score? Get a dip afterwards! Replace the radiator that's been making your car run hot, and now it's not running hot anymore!? Get a dip!!!
I can conquer this it is nothing that is not attainable. I just need to stick with my word this time around.
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You've never quit before, you've only had some temporary stops.
Your plan needs to include becoming an active member of this community, and posting a daily promise to quit with the other quitters in the September 2017 quit group. There, you will develop relationships with other quitters who are going through the same things you are.
Quitting is hard as hell, but the formula is simple. Learn more at the Welcome section here in the forum.
This community offers tremendous resources to help keep you quit, but the cost of admission is posting your daily promise in Roll.
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Watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmDgTPJ6HyM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmDgTPJ6HyM)
You didn't post roll today, and that's ok as long as you're quit. From this day forward, though, and I mean EVERY day forward, you post your daily promise to the September '17 quit group and yourself. I'll send you my number on PM if you can't figure it out and have questions. I'm in September with you. You got this shit. Just remember, quitting is the most important thing you will do today.
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Second day. Had to go to jury duty. Had two big withdrawal rushes. I'll make it. I feel like getting a dip when I leave. I won't.
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Today was the third day. Going through horrible withdrawals right now and have been for the past 3 or 4 hours. I really just want to cave and put a dip in. I can't. I must succeed I must push through. I'm about to go for a walk right now I think that will help ease the symptoms.
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Today was the third day. Going through horrible withdrawals right now and have been for the past 3 or 4 hours. I really just want to cave and put a dip in. I can't. I must succeed I must push through. I'm about to go for a walk right now I think that will help ease the symptoms.
You have my number now. If you get that way again, call me and I'll sing you a lullabye about men with half their faces, butterflies, getting a facemask basically fused to your face for radiation, pretty bunny rabbits, and leaving your family behind because of something you are MUCH more powerful than. I used to be able to sing pretty well, so it might actually be a catchy tune. :)
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Thank you man a lot. Lol I might have to hear that one sometime in these next two weeks. Today was the 4th day. Much easier physical withdrawals today. They weren't as bad today as they were yesterday, the third day. I still had that certain feeling in my head towards night around 7 and 8 o clock. I felt myself getting slightly impatient with customers at my job. I just sucked it up and didn't show it outwardly.
It's the idea of just getting another one that is messing with me. I won't. I know I won't. But it's just the idea that is slipping into my mind. That guy on my shoulder telling me: "One won't hurt you, one won't hurt you at all. Look, your teeth and gums aren't hurting anymore, and that was the real reason you quit, so now that they aren't hurting you can take one! It won't harm you!"
Then I turn around and say screw that man! I know you're a liar. It's one part of me that wants to dip. Then there's the overseer that knows I shouldn't do it and knows why I shouldn't do it. Something about a dip just feels so comforting and nostalgic. Like for instance when you're going down the road at night, just riding around enjoying the moment. What do I want? I damn dip of LC. But I know I cannot. I know I truly WANT to quit. I know I've truly wanted to quit for some time now; over six months. So I will stick with my decision for sure. Tomorrow should be even easier on the physical withdrawal side, even though it may be harder psychologically. The fact that my brother has a big tub of Stokers natural long cut in the fridge just makes this harder. But in reality it is better to do it this way because then I can truly say that I have willpower. If it's in front of you and you can resist it, then you can definitely resist it when it's not in front of you. The idea of going into a store and actually buying a can is far gone. There's no way I'll do that. It won't happen. I've trained myself too much for that garbage. From the moments in the past when I relapsed, it was those times that I was really staring at a can for 30 minutes contemplating. Then of course you will always find a justification. Never again. Not this time.
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I thought day 5 would have been easier physically than day 4 but I was wrong. It's been a lot harder actually. Made it through the day though that's all that counts.
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You have the right attitude, buddy. You really do. Stare this shit in the face, rip the bitch's hair out (I was about to get more graphic there and then I remembered this was a coed site,) and then spit moonshine on the bloody hair follicle holes. You're doing good. Just make it simple. Think something like, "Would I rather be able to kiss my wife/girlfriend/Saturday night slut, or would I rather the doctors graft skin off my ass to help create a new cheek?" And if that's difficult to answer, you are clearly not ready for this. Especially when you consider what else you can do with that mouth on that Saturday night slut. And now you're thinking about the possibilities, I know. ;)
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Lol I appreciate it bro. Today was day 6 much much easier than day 4 and 5. Those were hard. Today was easy.
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Today was day 8. Today was a day full of stress. As I was trying to work on the car today, I completely lost it in frustration. I got so mad that I began saying things to my brother I regret. I feel awful over it. I didn't know I was really capable of such rage and lack of control. It's a really weird feeling. It seemed today, especially towards the end of the day, that every little problem or impediment that came up was such a big deal. And it swept me so quickly and I react with such stark negativity. It is a bad feeling of negativity. I feel almost like I'm viewing myself in third person, or the way that people that I know (not necessarily family and close friends per se, more just like acquaintances/people I sort of know but not really) view me but in an exaggerated and negative light. It almost for a second feels that there is no hope! I know that is completely dark! I also know that it is completely unreasonable! I know this is me dealing with the withdrawals; dealing with the lack of nicotine and stress of every day life. On the bright side, despite all the intense stress/negative thinking, no part of me is truly contemplating getting a dip. It's almost like as soon as my mind thinks about it, I shut it off, with ease too! That's why I am happy. I might be feeling bad mentally and agitated, but I still feel strong and grounded in my quit. That is a plus.
It can be so hard to describe why exactly you get frustrated. It seems like the second I really try to put it into words why I'm mad/what is stressing me out it just becomes so silly, mundane, and trivial. It's almost like explaining it makes it seem so small and stupid. It seems like such a huge deal at the time. Time has a way of taking time I suppose.
Head is still feeling slightly foggy. Not much at all, but a little. I expected the physical side of this to be done with by day 8 but I guess not. Maybe my psychological state is triggering me to feel physical withdrawals.
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I just got done reading your posts. Many of the feelings of rage and frustration are ones I shared. I love the fact that you are documenting your quit on here like a journal. I did the same thing. I have to tell you I am quit now for 1296 days. I went back and read my own intro page and my journaling of my first 6 months. I don't know that guy. It was shocking and scary to read. I can't believe I was under that much control from a dead plant. A cat turd. It's so amazing to go back and read that. To remember. You will forget some things because life becomes so much better when your off the leash.
Stay strong man. One day at a time.
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Yeah it just seems really natural to try to post in this thread about my quit. Today was really easy it went by much better today. Did have slight cravings here and there but they were minimal and subtle. I was thinking today as I was driving down the road, "You've made many posts about your quit, but how many posts have made made helping other people and encouraging them? Bringing up my quit is doing only 50 percent of the job!"
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Yeah it just seems really natural to try to post in this thread about my quit.
Do it every damn day if it keeps you quit. If somebody gets tired of seeing your name at the top of the intros every day, just explain to them this concept I like to call "tough shit."
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Today is 10. So far I've felt completely normal all day. No cravings, or withdrawals at all. It feels like me before I started dipping or when I was using nicotine. I know tests will come in the future, however. I went for a good drive just earlier today and am about to put my door and bumper on the car. Those are two big tests for me. Driving and working on a car. I passed one. Now I have to fix it without getting a dip. I haven't had any fog or weird feeling in my head. I feel really good honestly. I can guarantee myself it will get tough around the 14 day mark the two week mark.
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Today is day 11. Today has been much worse than yesterday for whatever reason. I've really been tempted today to go to a store and get a can. I am confident I will not, but the thought is very much there. I've had multiple moments throughout today, one being pretty intense, where I felt like, "Darn I want a dip." I will continue on through the quit, however. Why? Because I can.
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I tried the nicotine gum for a few days and began feeling the withdrawals. Went back on the can yesterday and finally said screw it this morning. Keep fighting the good fight!
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I tried the nicotine gum for a few days and began feeling the withdrawals. Went back on the can yesterday and finally said screw it this morning. Keep fighting the good fight!
Thank you. Today was 15 and while and after hanging with some old friends I had bad withdrawals again. It was a mean craving, though I will not cave. If worst turns to worst I put an Extra spearmint gum in and I am done with it.
It is almost like the feeling of overwhelming boredom with life as a whole. I still enjoy work and hobbies. But it is just the aspect of viewing things from the mundane perspective, whereas in other cases, (had I chose Copenhagen again, which could be the case, seeing as how I had done so many times in the past!)I would have enjoyed them so much to the point of having not a care in the world.
And suddenly it came to me. I noticed that from the time I woke up, had been awake for an hour and driving to a restaurant that I did not think about dip. Since that moment it has been crystal clear to me:
it is all temporary!!!
Rome was not built in a day. You are essentially "unlearning" that part of your body/mind that is used to being dependent on nicotine. Until then be AWARE and HOLD ON TIGHT!!!
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Day 17 I woke up and went to a friends. He showed me some paint he had been doing on an old import. I didn't much think of dip then. I am able to feel normal. However, with each passing moment, one action leading up to another one in the sequence of events I might think of dip. Even still, knowing I was required to go in to work that day meant it wouldn't just be some "easy task" if you will. It went smooth and well, with not much thought given to the tobacco. But later on tonight, after I had been home from work for about 2 hours I began to really think about it.
And then it came as soft as a whisper in my ear, "One won't hurt you! One won't hurt at all go ahead!" I quickly refuted those thoughts. A pulled myself together with ease and it all went out. Then I realized:
Part of quitting successfully is self control.
Which brings me to self control:
self control is simply realizing that same voice that says take one is also the same voice that says no! It is a battle within myself.
The rules never change. When the question is asked, "Take a dip?" the answer is always an emphatic NO!
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Today was 22. I've been so stressed lately I can hardly describe it. It's because of outside things happening besides quitting dip. This feels very strong, especially with not having the dip as a 'release'. I know I am making the right choice. Today has been some dark times. Felt this awful unease and sense of impending doom in my chest cause I'm so stressed. I know it is all temporary. I will deal with this and get over the speed bump. Until next time.
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Today was 22. I've been so stressed lately I can hardly describe it. It's because of outside things happening besides quitting dip. This feels very strong, especially with not having the dip as a 'release'. I know I am making the right choice. Today has been some dark times. Felt this awful unease and sense of impending doom in my chest cause I'm so stressed. I know it is all temporary. I will deal with this and get over the speed bump. Until next time.
If I have seen it on this forum once, I've seen it a thousand times. It goes something like this:
1 problem + nicotine = 2 problems.
I don't have my release either. I had two. I dipped AND drank heavily; dip every day, drinking almost every day. We all had the same fear about "What will I do now when I need my release?" I will be completely honest when I say that I still have no fucking idea what my release is going to be. Right now, I eat a shitload of MM's at night when I'm just sitting here. It helps me finish the day in which I vowed I would stay nicotine free. And that's ALL I promised this morning. Just keep putting up the +1's no matter how you get it done right now. I think my "release" will come one day and I won't even realize it has arrived. One thing that helps give me that release every night is just coming on here and talking to people and reading other people's struggles and victories and hoping maybe there might be something I say that could help somebody else. It helps me right now. I MUST get on here every night even when I've worked myself silly and I just want to go to bed. And if this website is my addiction for a little bit, who the hell cares. It gives me another +1.
As for the stress, I don't know what you do for a living, but few of us have jobs that could actually be termed as life or death. Ultimately our entire lives are basically +1's in which you just try to live the shit out of each and every day. Example. Yesterday we were at Starbucks and one of the baristas was holding up a platter of cupcakes and another barista was about to take her picture while holding them. I just marched my ass behind the counter and photobombed it. It was amazing. I never used to do that shit. My daughter was SOOO embarrassed. But we both laughed about it all day. it was like stress kryptonite.
Just live, young man. You are so freaking young. Just live. Be proud as shit that you quit this shit so early in life. Now just live. Enjoy the shit out of it.
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glad to see you are posting on here concerning your daily struggles..we have all had them and I am proud the Phuctup has been here the entire time with you...follow his lead and you will do fine...keep pressing ODAAT...it does get easier but remember...you are and always will be an addict so treat it as such..never let your guard down and just focus on today.
When I focus on the fact that I will never dip again i get a lil anxiety so I just focus on ODAAT and it all goes away...
Proud to be quit with you today.
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it does get easier but remember...you are and always will be an addict so treat it as such..never let your guard down and just focus on today.
Today was the 4th of July so it was naturally slightly tempting. As a matter of fact I was at a pool party when I struck up a conversation with someone there. During the course of the interaction, he pulled out a can, and titled it up and down as he was talking (conversation about jobs and careers). I see the flavor and brand and quickly tell him: "Man that is the best dip right there that's what I used to use all the time." And it felt good to say that to him, while fully physically knowing I wasn't going to truly give in and get a dip. Still there was an element of weakness today I must admit. I do not let it discourage me however, and neither should anyone if they're feeling the same way. There will be tests.
There are two underlying factors that have been brought to me here recently. One is the full realization that caving will always result in disappointment.
Many times I have caved before. Not until recently did it truly hit me that caving and all the times I caved in the past were actually avoidable. If I had chosen not to dip instead of CHOOSING to dip I would have came out on top, no matter how slow the time passed or how down I felt.
The next factor is this website. It gives me an outlet to go to when I do feel that temptation. Whereas times in the past I would talk myself into getting a dip. Even if I had "quit", I would find an excuse to go and BUY A CAN!
The more the muscle is flexed the easier it is to use, the stronger it gets etc. Finding the ability to say, "No" is a muscle within itself. It is strengthened every time time you choose NOT to yield to temptation!
This coupled with the accountability tool of a roll call are the sword and shield of the quit.
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Today was day 28. Today was particulary strong in the psychological withdrawal department. Something was really just telling me "just take one just take one" I said HELL NO! I'm glad I did too I feel so much better towards the night! Earlier today as I was on my lunch break at work I was tempted. I was walking into the living room where my brother was sitting on the couch. I look over and see that can of Copenhagen that he bought the other day. Man did I want one! But I said no. I then went back to work later and my mind told me again "You can take one and then quit again!" "You've made it 28 days, you can afford to take one and then quit again." Then I said, "Screw that you liar."
Because I know as soon as I do take another one. I will begin to regret it as I have done many many times in the past.
You know before I even started dipping at age 21 or 22 (whenever it was can't remember exactly, but pretty sure 21) I had no way of even imagining how hard it is to quit. The physical withdrawals aren't necessarily the hard part. It's the psychological part that sticks with you that is hard. That is the part which I battled today very hard. It really felt like I was THIS close to caving, but also somewhere deep within my mind I knew I wasn't going to!
I will post later.
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Today is day 31. Man if I don't want to take a dip right now I never have before! I have full confidence that I will not. But damn it is still there, whispering my name. It is very similar to how I want to contact my long lost ex girlfriend every day of my life but I don't, because I know there is no point. I know there is no point to me taking a dip. I know as soon as I do it I will be in a sea of regret. I know that refusing to take a dip will make me stronger.
Every time I tell myself no I win. I'm winning right now. You're winning right now if you're quit. Go an hour without having a dip and you win. Go an hour after that, and so on. Then you will win.
I know I am at Day 31. I know some day I will be at day 50. Then someday I will be at day 100. But when I think about: the rest of my life man it just seems like such a daunting and challenging task.
I know I can do it thanks to this forum and help support. I must continue on. I must press on and go. I must I must I must. Some don't ever make it to the day that they are truly quit. Some die before that day comes, knowing they should have quit. I'll be damned if that is my fate. Thank you KTC I will be on here later.
Until next time.
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Day 33 no dip - In the heat of the moment I am faced with a decision of great but nerve racking significance. The whole thing honestly was not something I could say I expected. And it came almost subliminally to me. It was as if my subconscious was somehow trying to find the right justification, just the right reason to give in and cave. Giving in, (or at least the idea of giving) seemed so natural in that temporal state of desire and justification...
Well, needless to say I was really wanting a dip today! - very much unlike any other time since I went out from dipping Copenhagen.
I was thinking too much about everything...
solved :
Get out of your head, go and get busy instead.
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If I can finish today without a dip then that in itself is a victory. I have confidence that I will succeed. I know I will.
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If I can finish today without a dip then that in itself is a victory. I have confidence that I will succeed. I know I will.
You will.
As will I.
We're quitters, remember? I'm all in.
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Expect to crave reject the cave I really like that.
Man I tell you what. I really don't understand how the psychological urge can stick with you for so long after quitting. It's mind boggling to some extent. It's been weeks since I was even feeling the physical fog in my head from quitting dip. I kid you not I felt some sort of fog feeling today just from thinking of dip. I never would have thought something could be so addicting. I must sail on. We must sail on always. No matter what, no matter how hard it gets. No matter how dull it seems. We must keep going. The past two weeks have been so hard because the enthusiasm of my quit is gone. When you first start you are deadset and headstrong. You are passionate about the quit. As time goes by, even though you are still quit, and have been wanting to quit for a while, you start to lose passion for the quit. You lose the luster, the shine that made you feel so good after you went 15 days. I'm saying you but I really mean I this whole time.
Anyways, just a thought. Hang in there yall. If anyone's thinking about a dip message me first.
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You've come to the right place to quit.
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Expect to crave reject the cave I really like that.
Man I tell you what. I really don't understand how the psychological urge can stick with you for so long after quitting. It's mind boggling to some extent. It's been weeks since I was even feeling the physical fog in my head from quitting dip. I kid you not I felt some sort of fog feeling today just from thinking of dip. I never would have thought something could be so addicting. I must sail on. We must sail on always. No matter what, no matter how hard it gets. No matter how dull it seems. We must keep going. The past two weeks have been so hard because the enthusiasm of my quit is gone. When you first start you are deadset and headstrong. You are passionate about the quit. As time goes by, even though you are still quit, and have been wanting to quit for a while, you start to lose passion for the quit. You lose the luster, the shine that made you feel so good after you went 15 days. I'm saying you but I really mean I this whole time.
Anyways, just a thought. Hang in there yall. If anyone's thinking about a dip message me first.
That feeling is EXTREMELY common. The adrenaline has worn off and it's become a slog.
This is where milestones can come in handy. Focus on the Zeros, the Fives, the Even Weeks. You'll realize that you are hitting a new milestone just about every day - and the truth is you are.
Eventually, this doldrums period fades away into a much more manageable normalcy. Can't say when it happens, but I'll tell you that you will eventually level out. It will be worth it, just keep fighting.
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Heck yeah bro you are right. Sorry to you all I missed roll the past THREE DAYS! Been so freakin' busy had to end up workin on the car tonight and dealing with things at work. Yesterday there came a moment on my lunch break where I went home. In that moment, for whatever, reason I was hit with the most intense urge yet. Taking a dip felt so right. I resisted and resisted it until I couldn't handle it no more. My brother's can was right there in front of me. I got up and walked out of the house and just went back to work.
You know what's really awesome once you finally decide to quit? No matter how much you are tempted you do not ever cave because you KNOW deep down that it will always end with regret. Maybe not in that moment, maybe not an hour later, (sometimes it does) but you will regret it once you wake up the next morning.
By the time I arrived to work it was still on my mind. Two hours passed at work and it was over. I was so glad I made the decision to not do it. Or didn't make the decision to do it! Whichever way you like to say it!
I'm sorry that I've missed roll so bad lately. I will begin to post daily again. It is a cardinal sin for me to miss roll. Thankfully I did not cave and I can truthfully and honestly say that!
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Heck yeah bro you are right. Sorry to you all I missed roll the past THREE DAYS! Been so freakin' busy had to end up workin on the car tonight and dealing with things at work. Yesterday there came a moment on my lunch break where I went home. In that moment, for whatever, reason I was hit with the most intense urge yet. Taking a dip felt so right. I resisted and resisted it until I couldn't handle it no more. My brother's can was right there in front of me. I got up and walked out of the house and just went back to work.
You know what's really awesome once you finally decide to quit? No matter how much you are tempted you do not ever cave because you KNOW deep down that it will always end with regret. Maybe not in that moment, maybe not an hour later, (sometimes it does) but you will regret it once you wake up the next morning.
By the time I arrived to work it was still on my mind. Two hours passed at work and it was over. I was so glad I made the decision to not do it. Or didn't make the decision to do it! Whichever way you like to say it!
I'm sorry that I've missed roll so bad lately. I will begin to post daily again. It is a cardinal sin for me to miss roll. Thankfully I did not cave and I can truthfully and honestly say that!
I am glad to hear that you didn't cave and I am glad to hear that you are going to recommit to posting roll. However, I would also say that your story highlights something lacking in your quit. When faced with that moment, you should have had brothers on here that you could have texted or called to say you were struggling. This fight can feel very lonely at times and you really need the support of people who understand what you are going through in the long run. This is coming from someone who quit for over a year on KTC operating basically how you are. I eventually caved because I didn't have any accountability and I thought I was cured and that I could smoke a few cigs and it wouldn't be a big deal. That opened the door and I was right back to dipping within a few months. I am just trying to tell you that you need to do more than posting roll daily if you really want to take your quit seriously. You need to build some relationships. My number is in your PM box.
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You're right the accountability factor is so important. I am going to the dentist later today, got a cavity.
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Today marks the first day of total sobriety
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Well guys I post this in regret. I got comfortable staying quit without the site, and the past two weeks or so, I've caved and taken about 5 or 6 dips. Though I'm not physically as addicted as I once was, I am back where I started all along. I can't even remember how long I was quit. Almost four months. I have decided to get back on the board again. I have to commit fully. I am also giving up drinking too, I know I will only benefit.
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Well guys I post this in regret. I got comfortable staying quit without the site, and the past two weeks or so, I've caved and taken about 5 or 6 dips. Though I'm not physically as addicted as I once was, I am back where I started all along. I can't even remember how long I was quit. Almost four months. I have decided to get back on the board again. I have to commit fully. I am also giving up drinking too, I know I will only benefit.
Hey Gottadoit I see you snuck in here really quickly posted a day 1 and took off.
You were on here long enough to know that you have some explaining to do. I did want to leave the original quit post you made just for your own reflection of how you ended up back here at day 1.
So without further adieu:
Question 1 - What Happened
Question 2 - Why did it Happen
Question 3 - What will you do differently this time to make sure this is really your LAST Quit
Question 4 - Do you want to quit - for real ?
Question 4a. WHY
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I'm not physically as addicted as I once was, I am back where I started all along
wait, what??
Dude... YOU ARE ADDICTED TO NICOTINE forever and ever you and I are addicted to nicotine. Get that into your brain, then get your butt into your quit group and answer some questions!!
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man i just looked at your last 6 posts afore you dissappeered.
8/31 5:26 am
8/28 11:41 pm at fuckin nite
8/28 12:15 am at nite for your 8/27 roll call
8/25 9:52 pm at fuckin nite
8/24 3:24 am
8/22 4:15 pm in the after noon
now over the corse a 10 days you managed 6 roll calls. haff of um were after dinner. thems statis up dates. that record sucks ass. 8 days out a 10 you cood not be bothered to get on here in the mornin and make a promiss to be quit.
so i think you reely better figger out if your gonna be a quiterer or a haff asser. theres other sites for haff assers so if thats what you wanna be you let us no and we can point you that way.
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Bump, because well, four's a charm?
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I think this one is his final final final final quit.
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Please tell me we’re not allowing this fool to “try” again.
Please?
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You know, I don't really give a damn what you say about me. Use me as an example of a failure. Use me in posts to point out what a failure of a quitter looks like. I don't give a damn. Truthfully, if it helps to motivate someone else to stay quit then that's good. Now sure, I hate the fact that I've caved so many times of course. But I can't do a single thing to change the past. I can only do something differently each and every day that I'm alive here on this earth. And that really is that backbone of posting roll every day is it not? To make a daily promise - to break it down into just the simple concept of the "now" or merely "one" as opposed to tomorrow, a month from now, a year from now, etc.
What I'd really like you all to understand is that condescension and ridicule may be keeping folks from being in the brotherhood that is KTC.
Let us get this straight right here right now. Just because you are no longer succumbing to your addictions and someone else currently is, that doesn't make you any better than them! Just because you haven't caved and someone else has does not make you a better person than them! And you acting like it does in fact does NOT make it so!
Now, I don't expect to be understood at all with this post. In fact, the opposite. Just like I said in a previous post on the forums, I expect to be ridiculed, mocked, belittled, criticized, etc. And my point is to not say that that is ENTIRELY bad. In fact it may be good in some situations...
However, different people are gonna respond to different things in different situations, and you all belittling people on an anonymous message board dedicated to quitting dip frankly just makes you seem weak.
There are two (maybe three) people who stick out in my mind from this forum that make me want to NEVER give up in my quit. And I won't name them here right off. But they don't condescend, mock, and belittle. They are patient and kind. And that may be what some need.
If you think it's cool to insult me on this anonymous message board, go ahead. It makes you seem lame. I'll still be telling kids every day to quit dip when I see em' with a dip in their mouth. I'll still be tellin' kids to stop smoking cigarettes while they're 2 years in as opposed to 10!
Go ahead, use as an example - I'll still be quit! And I'll still effect change in people in my day to day life.
Bet.
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You know, I don't really give a damn what you say about me. Use me as an example of a failure. Use me in posts to point out what a failure of a quitter looks like. I don't give a damn. Truthfully, if it helps to motivate someone else to stay quit then that's good. Now sure, I hate the fact that I've caved so many times of course. But I can't do a single thing to change the past. I can only do something differently each and every day that I'm alive here on this earth. And that really is that backbone of posting roll every day is it not? To make a daily promise - to break it down into just the simple concept of the "now" or merely "one" as opposed to tomorrow, a month from now, a year from now, etc.
What I'd really like you all to understand is that condescension and ridicule may be keeping folks from being in the brotherhood that is KTC.
Let us get this straight right here right now. Just because you are no longer succumbing to your addictions and someone else currently is, that doesn't make you any better than them! Just because you haven't caved and someone else has does not make you a better person than them! And you acting like it does in fact does NOT make it so!
Now, I don't expect to be understood at all with this post. In fact, the opposite. Just like I said in a previous post on the forums, I expect to be ridiculed, mocked, belittled, criticized, etc. And my point is to not say that that is ENTIRELY bad. In fact it may be good in some situations...
However, different people are gonna respond to different things in different situations, and you all belittling people on an anonymous message board dedicated to quitting dip frankly just makes you seem weak.
There are two (maybe three) people who stick out in my mind from this forum that make me want to NEVER give up in my quit. And I won't name them here right off. But they don't condescend, mock, and belittle. They are patient and kind. And that may be what some need.
If you think it's cool to insult me on this anonymous message board, go ahead. It makes you seem lame. I'll still be telling kids every day to quit dip when I see em' with a dip in their mouth. I'll still be tellin' kids to stop smoking cigarettes while they're 2 years in as opposed to 10!
Go ahead, use as an example - I'll still be quit! And I'll still effect change in people in my day to day life.
Bet.
"Use me as an example of a failure."
I would rather use you as an example of success. I know you can stay quit. Do the things KTC recommends -- double down on them...put extra effort in-- and you will succeed and you can be successful today! Today's all you have anyhow. It's all any of us have.
So instead of bitching and moaning about what other people are saying, why don't you quit dwelling on, and rise above, failure mode? You don't have any control over them, only yourself.
Now start "being" a quitter, and continue to do so, and you will succeed.
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@gottadoit (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=150), I’m not saying you will never be successful quitting without this site, but if you follow instructions and advice to a Tee, you will be successful with us and KTC. It’s just like if you are sick and the doctor gives you meds. If you take half of the meds every other day, will your infection disappear? Maybe, maybe not, but it may come back. If you follow the directions, it’s gone for good. That’s just what all the others are trying to say in their own way.
I’m 39. In the 24 years I’ve been dipping, I never could quit for more than 4 days. So you see, I started at KTC worse off than you. I’m on day 37 and killing it. That’s never been done before. I just followed everyone’s advice and found some friends that suited me in the attitude sector, and stuck with em. You are not expected to get along with everyone. This isn’t day care. Find some guys that you you described and watch their back too.
You can’t think that you will make it on your own. Get some digits, make those text promises, post roll, promise someone dear to you DAILY, and take it ODAAT. You need something, I’m here. Get started and carry on.
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@gottadoit (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=150), I’m not saying you will never be successful quitting without this site, but if you follow instructions and advice to a Tee, you will be successful with us and KTC. It’s just like if you are sick and the doctor gives you meds. If you take half of the meds every other day, will your infection disappear? Maybe, maybe not, but it may come back. If you follow the directions, it’s gone for good. That’s just what all the others are trying to say in their own way.
I’m 39. In the 24 years I’ve been dipping, I never could quit for more than 4 days. So you see, I started at KTC worse off than you. I’m on day 37 and killing it. That’s never been done before. I just followed everyone’s advice and found some friends that suited me in the attitude sector, and stuck with em. You are not expected to get along with everyone. This isn’t day care. Find some guys that you you described and watch their back too.
You can’t think that you will make it on your own. Get some digits, make those text promises, post roll, promise someone dear to you DAILY, and take it ODAAT. You need something, I’m here. Get started and carry on.
@Hunter4life (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=15792)
Tagging @gottadoit3 (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=13818) instead of me.
Thanks,
gottadoit - 929 days nic free
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@gottadoit (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=150), I’m not saying you will never be successful quitting without this site, but if you follow instructions and advice to a Tee, you will be successful with us and KTC. It’s just like if you are sick and the doctor gives you meds. If you take half of the meds every other day, will your infection disappear? Maybe, maybe not, but it may come back. If you follow the directions, it’s gone for good. That’s just what all the others are trying to say in their own way.
I’m 39. In the 24 years I’ve been dipping, I never could quit for more than 4 days. So you see, I started at KTC worse off than you. I’m on day 37 and killing it. That’s never been done before. I just followed everyone’s advice and found some friends that suited me in the attitude sector, and stuck with em. You are not expected to get along with everyone. This isn’t day care. Find some guys that you you described and watch their back too.
You can’t think that you will make it on your own. Get some digits, make those text promises, post roll, promise someone dear to you DAILY, and take it ODAAT. You need something, I’m here. Get started and carry on.
@Hunter4life (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=15792)
Tagging @gottadoit3 (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=13818) instead of me.
Thanks,
gottadoit - 929 days nic free
Sorry @gottadoit (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=150), by the looks of things, you’ve done done it. Lol. My apologies.
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Hunter4life the "this isn't day care" line was golden.
I was thinking way too far into it.
What do you think of the idea of using other habits in order to replace the nicotine habit?
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Hunter4life the "this isn't day care" line was golden.
I was thinking way too far into it.
What do you think of the idea of using other habits in order to replace the nicotine habit?
Nicotine ADDICTION
Not habit. Have you admitted to yourself that your an addict yet? You need to.
Dip substitutes are fine though.. sunflower seeds, gum, tooth picks, fake dip.. whatever you need. Anything but nicotine.
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@gottadoit (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=150), I’m not saying you will never be successful quitting without this site, but if you follow instructions and advice to a Tee, you will be successful with us and KTC. It’s just like if you are sick and the doctor gives you meds. If you take half of the meds every other day, will your infection disappear? Maybe, maybe not, but it may come back. If you follow the directions, it’s gone for good. That’s just what all the others are trying to say in their own way.
I’m 39. In the 24 years I’ve been dipping, I never could quit for more than 4 days. So you see, I started at KTC worse off than you. I’m on day 37 and killing it. That’s never been done before. I just followed everyone’s advice and found some friends that suited me in the attitude sector, and stuck with em. You are not expected to get along with everyone. This isn’t day care. Find some guys that you you described and watch their back too.
You can’t think that you will make it on your own. Get some digits, make those text promises, post roll, promise someone dear to you DAILY, and take it ODAAT. You need something, I’m here. Get started and carry on.
@Hunter4life (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=15792)
Tagging @gottadoit3 (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=13818) instead of me.
Thanks,
gottadoit - 929 days nic free
Sorry @gottadoit (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=150), by the looks of things, you’ve done done it. Lol. My apologies.
No worries @Hunter4life (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=15792). Not the first time it's happened. Proud to be quit with you!!!
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Hunter4life the "this isn't day care" line was golden.
I was thinking way too far into it.
What do you think of the idea of using other habits in order to replace the nicotine habit?
Nicotine ADDICTION
Not habit. Have you admitted to yourself that your an addict yet? You need to.
Dip substitutes are fine though.. sunflower seeds, gum, tooth picks, fake dip.. whatever you need. Anything but nicotine.
My favorites are Teaza and Grinds. If you go to the Teaza website and sign up, they are always sending discount codes for 25%-30% off if you order from their website. You can also get both of them on Amazon. To your door in a day or two.
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Hunter4life the "this isn't day care" line was golden.
I was thinking way too far into it.
What do you think of the idea of using other habits in order to replace the nicotine habit?
gotta,
The only habit you have with nicotine, is you like to put shit in your mouth. The only things that should go in your mouth are food, beverage and a good woman (or man, depending on your gender and/or sexual preference). The rest nicotine is your addiction.
Find a good hobbie you can do in place of dipping and use fake and/or seeds, gum and candy as long as you need to. You will eventually ween yourself off of them naturally.
QLF with you today.
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Hunter4life the "this isn't day care" line was golden.
I was thinking way too far into it.
What do you think of the idea of using other habits in order to replace the nicotine habit?
@gottadoit3 (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=13818), I think it depends on the person. My thoughts are give everything up.
By habits, I’m assuming you mean baccoff, grinds, seeds, etc. simply put, give it all up. Its like a teenage boy with a prom date. The only way to totally and surely prevent the deed from occurring is to remove the date. You can try everything to prevent it and it can still happen.
Having something to tide me over left me in a state of untrustworthiness. It’s something I had to do.
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I haven't felt any real cravings until yesterday. Just a boredom in general really.
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I haven't felt any real cravings until yesterday. Just a boredom in general really.
Have a plan because they will be back. Feel free pm me. Happy to support.
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Like I mentioned not really having any cravings, well I had some horrible ones today, especially later on in the day. I kept imagining getting a dip but then quickly reminded myself of the futility of it all. I know I'll be right back where I have been before if I fuck up. Just like chris2alaska mentioned earlier, you have to stay vigilant.
I'm having some pretty bad withdrawals. Which is strange because I'm at day 12 and I hardly haven't felt any at all leading up to this point. It's like I have no motivation to do anything and then when I finally do something I have to fight just to finish it. Something as simple as washing dishes, or cleaning up downstairs.
I must keep going, there is no other option. I either fight or die.
Crave continues...
Sink or swim, this is it. Weeks from now I will look back on this, and be so glad and happy that I didn't quit. If it wasn't for the idea of letting my brothers down I would be much weaker and susceptible right now. I've got my quit buddies numbers in my phone. Tomorrow will come. This is all temporary. Just keep going.
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Over three weeks in now and while I'm glad to be quit I don't approve of who I've become at this moment. I've allowed myself to become socially anxious, not wanting to talk to people or be around a lot of people. I have to get back on my productive happens and stop hitting the snooze button and going back to sleep!
Anyone have any stories of times they've formed new daily habits and how it helped them?
It seems to all be based on momentum. If you wake up once your alarm beeps and want to go back to sleep you're letting your brain trick your mind into thinking that you're still tired. And once you wake back up again you are going to be less alert and concentrated than if you had just woken up the first time.
I slept in and missed a good shindig an associate of mine invited me to go to. Part of the reason was for being anxious in social situations and part was being lazy.
I've got to get more into an attitude of wanting to face the day. Face every challenge, problem, concern or fear head on.
It's just like last night, wanting to ask the girl out on a date, but then feeling myself reverted back into that old shy, non-confident, overthinking mindset that I use to have so often. I've got to break this vicious cycle. I know I can; I've done it countless times in the past. This time it's not really going to be any easier, but once I get started I know I will feel better. Here's a promise of mine to be a better man every day, along with posting roll, to ensure that I face my fears head on every single day, never hit the snooze button, and conquer every problem that stands in my way!
I'd really like if someone will help me with a plan.
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Over three weeks in now and while I'm glad to be quit I don't approve of who I've become at this moment. I've allowed myself to become socially anxious, not wanting to talk to people or be around a lot of people. I have to get back on my productive happens and stop hitting the snooze button and going back to sleep!
Anyone have any stories of times they've formed new daily habits and how it helped them?
It seems to all be based on momentum. If you wake up once your alarm beeps and want to go back to sleep you're letting your brain trick your mind into thinking that you're still tired. And once you wake back up again you are going to be less alert and concentrated than if you had just woken up the first time.
I slept in and missed a good shindig an associate of mine invited me to go to. Part of the reason was for being anxious in social situations and part was being lazy.
I've got to get more into an attitude of wanting to face the day. Face every challenge, problem, concern or fear head on.
It's just like last night, wanting to ask the girl out on a date, but then feeling myself reverted back into that old shy, non-confident, overthinking mindset that I use to have so often. I've got to break this vicious cycle. I know I can; I've done it countless times in the past. This time it's not really going to be any easier, but once I get started I know I will feel better. Here's a promise of mine to be a better man every day, along with posting roll, to ensure that I face my fears head on every single day, never hit the snooze button, and conquer every problem that stands in my way!
I'd really like if someone will help me with a plan.
No plan, some knowledge may help. First 3 weeks quit is bad ass! It will get better.
Next, the change in your outlook is real. Nicotine hijacks the dopamine cycle (aka reward system) in your brain. Right now you aren’t feeding nicotine, so rewards are few.
The key, your brain will heal over time. It will get better. At three weeks, you can neither remember nor imagine what a natural dopamine cycle and rewards are like, As you heal the dopamine cycle recovers. The future is very bright. You just need to stay strong vs nicotine to get there.
Keep recording your quit experience, soon enough you will look back at your posts and see the victories you are winning day by day. Early quit sucks, the fog is troubling. But quit becomes wonderful. Trust yourself, quit hard, win.
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For the next 30 days I'm going to do different things to push and challenge myself physically and mentally. I feel this will occupy my time while I'm still in the earlier stages of the rest of my life. Plus, if I look at all the results in the next 30 days I will probably want to keep going in that same general direction. I'd like to stop drinking soft drinks and consuming sugar, stop hitting the snooze button and going back to sleep, be more grateful in general and respectful to other people. etc.
If I can get my momentum going, and can keep it going. It's just the initial motion needs to be propelled from within and then I will be proud of my accomplishments. I'd also like to widen my vocabulary so reading and writing every day is a sure way to increase wit.
I'd really just like to stop procrastinating so much in general. That is the only way for me to feel satisfied within.
I would almost like the next 30 days be a challenge overall for me. To see how many new things I can do in a month without nicotine. A bucketlist if you will.
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For the next 30 days I'm going to do different things to push and challenge myself physically and mentally. I feel this will occupy my time while I'm still in the earlier stages of the rest of my life. Plus, if I look at all the results in the next 30 days I will probably want to keep going in that same general direction. I'd like to stop drinking soft drinks and consuming sugar, stop hitting the snooze button and going back to sleep, be more grateful in general and respectful to other people. etc.
If I can get my momentum going, and can keep it going. It's just the initial motion needs to be propelled from within and then I will be proud of my accomplishments. I'd also like to widen my vocabulary so reading and writing every day is a sure way to increase wit.
I'd really just like to stop procrastinating so much in general. That is the only way for me to feel satisfied within.
I would almost like the next 30 days be a challenge overall for me. To see how many new things I can do in a month without nicotine. A bucketlist if you will.
@gottadoit3 (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=13818) your plan sounds great. Let me know how it goes. To help with the mood issues especially early on, my daily goal was to be the best person anyone interacted with that day. I wasn't perfect and had to put myself in time out a few times, but it really changes my perspective.
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I thought about your idea today though I did not wholeheartedly implement it.
Today, for whatever reason, was a particularly rough day. Two hours after I got off work I started having all these existential type thoughts thinking about all the things I regret not doing in my past. I'm caught between feeling young and old still. I can only imagine how bad it will be once I get even older.
I'm going to be pessimistic for just a minute, but only for the purpose of describing my mindset today. The cravings were particularly bad today. I remember not being able to concentrate really. And I also remember thinking that the past three weeks was completely null and void. Like it literally felt like day one all over again. Thank goodness I texted @gottadoit (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=150) and that was enough to fully solidify it in my mind that I was going to be okay. He texted me back. (I appreciate that brother)
So to anyone on this forum old or new, I urge you to get digits and start forming a relationship with other quitters on this site, as a supplement to posting roll. It will make your quit stronger. I said earlier in this thread I don't mind being used as an example of failure if someone else can learn. Take it from me. I've caved before. I thought I was okay. I thought I was cured. Reality hit me like a freight train once I realized nicotine still had a grip on me and everyone here on KTC was correct in everything they had been saying.
God, I feel so bad for leaving my quit brothers in the past.
Anyone going through a rough time in your quit please message me, I will be glad to help you in any way I possibly can. I'm normally not the best texter in the world when it comes to promptly responding but I will do my best to not let you down. Anyone having trouble, do not be fearful of reaching out to someone! Reaching out to people on this site will help you in your quit. It will make it stronger, more committed, with a stronger base etc.
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GOALS for tomorrow:
1) Get up when the alarm goes off, DO NOT HIT SNOOZE BUTTON.
2) Do not drink an energy drink.
Sounds simple enough, let's see how it goes.
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GOALS for tomorrow:
1) Get up when the alarm goes off, DO NOT HIT SNOOZE BUTTON.
2) Do not drink an energy drink.
Sounds simple enough, let's see how it goes.
YOU CAN DO IT!! Believe in yourself.
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Got up on time. Did NOT succeed at not drinking a soda. Had a massive headache 4 hours past my normal time to get a drink, gotta wean myself off of this.
Definitely feels good to be off of nicotine though. Next will be caffeine off the list of habits
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Click here for
caffeine quit (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?topic=230.0)
And here for
soda quit (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?topic=234.0)
@gottadoit3 (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=13818)
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Click here for
caffeine quit (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?topic=230.0)
And here for
soda quit (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?topic=234.0)
@gottadoit3 (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=13818)
I'm in both of these with SS and a few others. Come post with us there.
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My goal for today is to keep idle chatter to a minimum. Talk the least at my workplace. Stay busy.
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Things are going good in the quit. 37 days in. I need to be a support to someone else who is quit.
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Things are going good in the quit. 37 days in. I need to be a support to someone else who is quit.
Supporting other quitters is a great way to strengthen your quit. Just keep yours the top priority.
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Just wanted to say guys that I have a sense of dread and worry that may be a little peculiar but maybe someone here can relate. Basically lately I've been feeling great about my quit. I've had no cravings at all. Haven't wanted it. The thought of taking a dip just seems so bizarre. But that is the reason why I am worried. Because I know what has happened in the past. That same mindset which I just described causes me to slip into the "well I have it conquered I can take at least one" bullshit justification...
Which makes it all the more important for me to ensure I make the early promise consistently throughout this time period. Hell throughout forever!
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Just wanted to say guys that I have a sense of dread and worry that may be a little peculiar but maybe someone here can relate. Basically lately I've been feeling great about my quit. I've had no cravings at all. Haven't wanted it. The thought of taking a dip just seems so bizarre. But that is the reason why I am worried. Because I know what has happened in the past. That same mindset which I just described causes me to slip into the "well I have it conquered I can take at least one" bullshit justification...
Which makes it all the more important for me to ensure I make the early promise consistently throughout this time period. Hell throughout forever!
I don't think your experience is peculiar at all. I think it is more the norm than you realize. After so many days, it isn't the crave that draws you back to the can, but more likely it's the strange IDEA that a dip will spice up your life again and re-energize the void. We get obsessed with that idea. And it seems to be an idea that is peculiar to addicts only. Non-addicts don't get it. I think being an addict means the void never completely goes away. For me, the daily promise is partly a way to acknowledge the void and not get tricked into slipping into it. I do a war dance around it. Occasionally I throw cavers into it as a sacrifice.
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Thanks Zeus. Like I said been feeling good about the quit no craves really at all. I went to the movies the other night about 5 mins in I got offered some nicotine vape and pouches I quickly said no and shift attention to the movie. I knew that was the first really big test since about the third week or so. But I quickly just ignored it knowing subconsciously that this is a particularly high impulse situation which would be so similar to when I would normally cave. I reminded myself of the daily promise and moved on.
When that happens, quickly remember your daily promise and refocus on the movie. Don't think twice.
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I'm a wreck. I've probably slept 6 hours in the past 4 days. I've had serious cravings the past two or three days. I watched my brother put a dip in yesterday and man it hit me like a ton of bricks. I have to keep posting roll. I didn't send my text out yesterday. I can feel myself slowly slipping back into the take a dip mindset. I'm not doing this. I'm not going back. I'm not caving.
If there's anyone struggling to quit or stay quit please message me reach out to me we can talk.
I had almost no intense cravings for the first 50 days. then all the sudden this week.. BAM.
I feel like a fool for caving in the past.
I am extremely fortunate and grateful that I am allowed here on KTC. Any new quitters please reach out. Look to me as an example. Do not cave. Use and get the support that you need. We are all here to help one another.
Peace.
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I'm a wreck. I've probably slept 6 hours in the past 4 days. I've had serious cravings the past two or three days. I watched my brother put a dip in yesterday and man it hit me like a ton of bricks. I have to keep posting roll. I didn't send my text out yesterday. I can feel myself slowly slipping back into the take a dip mindset. I'm not doing this. I'm not going back. I'm not caving.
If there's anyone struggling to quit or stay quit please message me reach out to me we can talk.
I had almost no intense cravings for the first 50 days. then all the sudden this week.. BAM.
I feel like a fool for caving in the past.
I am extremely fortunate and grateful that I am allowed here on KTC. Any new quitters please reach out. Look to me as an example. Do not cave. Use and get the support that you need. We are all here to help one another.
Peace.
@gottadoit3 (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=13818)
Brother - why not return the text? I waited. You are 8 weeks with today being 57 days. Why would you want to return to the ranks of killing your self? WUPP EDD and take nic off the table. Reach out when you need help. You will never regret quitting but you will always regret caving.
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I'm a wreck. I've probably slept 6 hours in the past 4 days. I've had serious cravings the past two or three days. I watched my brother put a dip in yesterday and man it hit me like a ton of bricks. I have to keep posting roll. I didn't send my text out yesterday. I can feel myself slowly slipping back into the take a dip mindset. I'm not doing this. I'm not going back. I'm not caving.
If there's anyone struggling to quit or stay quit please message me reach out to me we can talk.
I had almost no intense cravings for the first 50 days. then all the sudden this week.. BAM.
I feel like a fool for caving in the past.
I am extremely fortunate and grateful that I am allowed here on KTC. Any new quitters please reach out. Look to me as an example. Do not cave. Use and get the support that you need. We are all here to help one another.
Peace.
@gottadoit3 (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=13818)
Brother - why not return the text? I waited. You are 8 weeks with today being 57 days. Why would you want to return to the ranks of killing your self? WUPP EDD and take nic off the table. Reach out when you need help. You will never regret quitting but you will always regret caving.
I didn't want to text at work. You really helped me out today brother.
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I'm a wreck. I've probably slept 6 hours in the past 4 days. I've had serious cravings the past two or three days. I watched my brother put a dip in yesterday and man it hit me like a ton of bricks. I have to keep posting roll. I didn't send my text out yesterday. I can feel myself slowly slipping back into the take a dip mindset. I'm not doing this. I'm not going back. I'm not caving.
If there's anyone struggling to quit or stay quit please message me reach out to me we can talk.
I had almost no intense cravings for the first 50 days. then all the sudden this week.. BAM.
I feel like a fool for caving in the past.
I am extremely fortunate and grateful that I am allowed here on KTC. Any new quitters please reach out. Look to me as an example. Do not cave. Use and get the support that you need. We are all here to help one another.
Peace.
@gottadoit3 (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=13818)
Brother - why not return the text? I waited. You are 8 weeks with today being 57 days. Why would you want to return to the ranks of killing your self? WUPP EDD and take nic off the table. Reach out when you need help. You will never regret quitting but you will always regret caving.
I didn't want to text at work. You really helped me out today brother.
@gottadoit3 (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=13818) How did you make out brother? Sorry I missed this this morning. I feel you man. Having a rough couple days myself. Please reach out if you want/need to talk it out. PMing you now with digits. Hold the line man.
~HAG
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I'm a wreck. I've probably slept 6 hours in the past 4 days. I've had serious cravings the past two or three days. I watched my brother put a dip in yesterday and man it hit me like a ton of bricks. I have to keep posting roll. I didn't send my text out yesterday. I can feel myself slowly slipping back into the take a dip mindset. I'm not doing this. I'm not going back. I'm not caving.
If there's anyone struggling to quit or stay quit please message me reach out to me we can talk.
I had almost no intense cravings for the first 50 days. then all the sudden this week.. BAM.
I feel like a fool for caving in the past.
I am extremely fortunate and grateful that I am allowed here on KTC. Any new quitters please reach out. Look to me as an example. Do not cave. Use and get the support that you need. We are all here to help one another.
Peace.
@gottadoit3 (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=13818)
Brother - why not return the text? I waited. You are 8 weeks with today being 57 days. Why would you want to return to the ranks of killing your self? WUPP EDD and take nic off the table. Reach out when you need help. You will never regret quitting but you will always regret caving.
I didn't want to text at work. You really helped me out today brother.
@gottadoit3 (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=13818) How did you make out brother? Sorry I missed this this morning. I feel you man. Having a rough couple days myself. Please reach out if you want/need to talk it out. PMing you now with digits. Hold the line man.
~HAG
I'm still quit man. It's going good. Just been having really bad cravings the past two weeks. Of course it doesn't help that I've quit caffeine for anywhere between 10 and 14 days. I lost track. Honestly I just want to keep going. Me staying quit from nicotine is not a question. I will stay quit. But staying quit from caffeine, man, that's a tough one. I know I have to keep going for a little bit longer, but every now and then a good energy drink or cup of tea is calling my name. But I know I have to keep going longer to really see the benefits. I'm naturally an anxious person so my reason for quitting caffeine is to reduce anxiety. And also not be dependent on a chemical. I hate the idea of needing something in order to function. As far as I'm concerned the only substance I need is food and water. I'm quitting drinking here soon as well. I'm looking at is a challenge. Do I have the discipline to go to bars and socialize without getting a drink? Do I have the discipline and strength to endure when people ask me, "You don't drink?" Why not?
All in all I want to get into a sober mindset all the way around. Get more intune with my emotions and learn to deal with them properly through meditation and exercise. It's really the only way I ever see myself getting into a successful relationship, which is a big goal of mine. For a lot of people they can continue to indulge in whatever habits they want, but for me it's completely different. In order for me to have the self confidence and self esteem to get girls, I really have to be sober and quit from every vice and addiction. I don't know what it is, but that's the way I am.
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I gotta get involved in other folks quit. I'm being too self centered. I gotta quit caffeine again too. I quit for 3 weeks then caved and got an energy drink. The last thing on my mind is nicotine. Just thinking out loud. I really appreciate all of you.
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I gotta get involved in other folks quit. I'm being too self centered. I gotta quit caffeine again too. I quit for 3 weeks then caved and got an energy drink. The last thing on my mind is nicotine. Just thinking out loud. I really appreciate all of you.
Protect your quit at all cost. It is ok to be selfish in troubled times. However, when things are going well, latch on to a fellow quitter and lend a helping hand. Focusing on others will go a long way in helping you as well. Just hard to help others when we are looking for our own balance. Rock on brother.
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I gotta get involved in other folks quit. I'm being too self centered. I gotta quit caffeine again too. I quit for 3 weeks then caved and got an energy drink. The last thing on my mind is nicotine. Just thinking out loud. I really appreciate all of you.
Protect your quit at all cost. It is ok to be selfish in troubled times. However, when things are going well, latch on to a fellow quitter and lend a helping hand. Focusing on others will go a long way in helping you as well. Just hard to help others when we are looking for our own balance. Rock on brother.
What @Keith0617 (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1356) said.
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First day of social media quit. No facebook
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Quitting facebook has been easy today. A few times it was calling my name but I just said no and redirected my attention to something else. Time will tell on this one. The next thing, which I am quitting tomorrow, are all soft drinks and junk food. I know this one will benefit me, and truth be told I normally don't consume sugary desserts and stuff too much. For whatever reason, I've been drinking energy drinks rather frequently recently. I know I have to quit them. I know they don't do me any good. Here we go. I'm starting tomorrow. It's hard because at my work we have a cooler with drinks of all kind for sale. Coke, Dr. Pepper, Monster, NOS, you name it, we got it. I can do this. I know it will be a test of willpower and discipline.
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2nd day of facebook quit. 1st day of no sugar or soda drinks. I will quit another vice tomorrow, until I am content. Then in 30 days I'll recap and look at my progress
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2nd day of facebook quit. 1st day of no sugar or soda drinks. I will quit another vice tomorrow, until I am content. Then in 30 days I'll recap and look at my progress
Keep killing it brother! Your motivation to improve many aspects of life is an inspiration!
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Well, the facebook quit is going well. I have to be done with it. Do I have the discipline to stay off of it? The discipline not to concern myself with the lives of others whom I am acquainted with? I believe I do. And I think it will better me overall to stay away from it. Do I have the motivation to stay quit from caffeine drinks? That is a much different story. I ended up getting one today, but that is it. It's over now. I have to commit to staying quit. I am much calmer person when I don't drink energy drinks. I have a better mood in general and more consistent energy levels. So I am going to have to stay quit from the drinks. It is necessary in my self improvement.
What I am realizing in my life is that I lack discipline in many areas. I don't meet many new people because I simply lack the discipline to go out and meet people. I don't form relationships worthwhile with positive people because I lack the discipline to constantly self improve. Given the choice between two things, one easy and one difficult, I would choose the path of least resistance if it was left up to me. That is why I am trying to erase every negative habit in my life. I procrastinate at things in life in general. The maintenance and condition of my car. Eating habits, sleeping habits, dental hygiene. Really and truly every aspect of my life I could do better. And if there's one thing I have learned from KTC is to take it one day at a time, with the support and accountability to stay quit from dip. To refrain from the habit we engaged in in the past. To be different than before, one day at a time.
I have to be careful, because dip is seeming smaller to me recently. As in, I'm not thinking about it as much. And that's exactly where I need to have my guard up. I'll be sending messages out in the next coming weeks in order to stay focused.
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Been having bad cravings lately.
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Been having bad cravings lately.
It’s normal. Use your tools, reach out to the people you have relationships with, focus on positives and realize this too will pass in a few days. Stay close to the site.
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Fuck this shit. I'm done. Im @###@ done. I'm done drinking those stupid sodas and energy drinks. I've quit for weeks at a time, but I always go back. I'm done. I'm quit. I will no longer drink them. I have a plan. And it's going to work this time.
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Fuck this shit. I'm done. Im @###@ done. I'm done drinking those stupid sodas and energy drinks. I've quit for weeks at a time, but I always go back. I'm done. I'm quit. I will no longer drink them. I have a plan. And it's going to work this time.
Hell yeah man! I’ve been starting that journey myself. I used to drink a 12 pack every 3 days. Now I have a soda once in a blue moon currently. Gatorade and water is a life saver. you got this man!
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Fuck this shit. I'm done. Im @###@ done. I'm done drinking those stupid sodas and energy drinks. I've quit for weeks at a time, but I always go back. I'm done. I'm quit. I will no longer drink them. I have a plan. And it's going to work this time.
Hell yeah man! I’ve been starting that journey myself. I used to drink a 12 pack every 3 days. Now I have a soda once in a blue moon currently. Gatorade and water is a life saver. you got this man!
Remember our talks brother. Do what you need to take of you. You got this.
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Fuck this shit. I'm done. Im @###@ done. I'm done drinking those stupid sodas and energy drinks. I've quit for weeks at a time, but I always go back. I'm done. I'm quit. I will no longer drink them. I have a plan. And it's going to work this time.
Hell yeah man! I’ve been starting that journey myself. I used to drink a 12 pack every 3 days. Now I have a soda once in a blue moon currently. Gatorade and water is a life saver. you got this man!
Remember our talks brother. Do what you need to take of you. You got this.
Do whatever you gotta do to stay quit from nicotine! Why are you wanting to quit caffeine ? Does it make you feel like trash when you drink it? Or are you just trying to not consume as much ?
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Fuck this shit. I'm done. Im @###@ done. I'm done drinking those stupid sodas and energy drinks. I've quit for weeks at a time, but I always go back. I'm done. I'm quit. I will no longer drink them. I have a plan. And it's going to work this time.
Hell yeah man! I’ve been starting that journey myself. I used to drink a 12 pack every 3 days. Now I have a soda once in a blue moon currently. Gatorade and water is a life saver. you got this man!
Remember our talks brother. Do what you need to take of you. You got this.
Do whatever you gotta do to stay quit from nicotine! Why are you wanting to quit caffeine ? Does it make you feel like trash when you drink it? Or are you just trying to not consume as much ?
There are two main reasons I'm wanting to quit. One is health. Less sugar intake, better teeth, healthier body in general because it's easier to stay properly hydrated. The other reason is cause of energy/mood. I actually have more energy and am in better mood without sodas!
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I'm making it a point to post early the next few weeks. I suspect I'm about to reach a new phase of complacency in my quit. I feel myself getting comfortable and trusting myself more. Which may at first seem like a good thing, but as any real veteran of quit knows, can ultimately lead to your downfall if you lose that certain level of awareness. I feel as if I've conquered it, and that is what concerns me.
I hate the idea of leaving this site and just becoming another guy that abandoned KTC. That would be much foolish of me, seeing as how I've done it in the past.
Just looking at the dedication and passion of the board members is truly motivating. It shows me how far off I really am. How much more inspired and positive I could be in my quit. Seeing the dedication is truly eye opening, it helps to put things into perspective, and really shows me how I could get complacent if I'm not careful. Quitters younger or older than me please use this writing as a tool to widen your perspective.
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Just a week or so ago I was battling huge cravings. Now I feel as if I've conquered it. It shows you the true danger of getting complacent. All it takes is a couple moments of complacency and then BAM you have potential for a cave. The bottom line is, you can always see the temptation; slowly but surely poking its ugly head out at you. Whereas it may have not shown itself in three months or three years, all of the sudden, or sometimes slowly through a series of events, it tempts and claws at you once again, reminding you it is still there. It hopes that you will be the slave that you once were. It reminds you of how easy you were able to live without it just so it can suck you into its vicious cycle all over again! Such is the nature of the beast of addiction. It never truly goes away, it only masks and manifests itself in other forms. I would be a complete fool to think of myself as successful at this point. 143 days in really is a short amount of time. I can only imagine what it will be like once I get to the level some of the folks here on KTC are... in the thousands. Yet still posting roll every single day so passionately as they did early on. It is truly inspiring. It reminds me of when a fellow quit brother asked me the question, "Do you really want to quit?" as opposed to, "Do you think you should quit?" It is truly a difference when you want to quit.
And so I ask myself the question, which I would also ask you, "How bad do you want to quit?"
I like to think I want it very badly. But at the same time, if I can't even post roll on time, how bad do I really want it?
It is urgent and absolutely vital that I post roll on time. I am thankful for my quit brothers in helping me to not lose sight on the goal!
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Looking back on it now it all seems so strange and bizarre how I used to be addicted to dip.
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Right there. There is the danger I am making myself more aware of.
If I look back on the past as a former addict or former user, I will develop a false sense of confidence in my own discipline. I am a very disciplined person in some respects. Addiction to dip is not one of them. I must face the reality that while I have gone 143 days without nicotine, I am still very much addicted.
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Looking back on it now it all seems so strange and bizarre how I used to be addicted to dip.
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Right there. There is the danger I am making myself more aware of.
If I look back on the past as a former addict or former user, I will develop a false sense of confidence in my own discipline. I am a very disciplined person in some respects. Addiction to dip is not one of them. I must face the reality that while I have gone 143 days without nicotine, I am still very much addicted.
You and I are still addicts and always will be. That is why it is so important to fuel your quit by following your routine daily of WUPP and maintaining your relationships will fellow quitters. Don’t let yourself get complacent. Nicotine will always be looking for a crack to slide through and gain control of your life. We have to beat it ODAAT.
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I encourage anyone and everyone that is struggling, to always reach out!
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I encourage anyone and everyone that is struggling, to always reach out!
Great point @gottadoit3 (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=13818) . We all failed on our own. One of the great things about KTC is the brother/sisterhood that is available. The support and accountability go a long way in assisted quitters on a daily basis. There is strength in numbers and knowing you are not alone is awesome.
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How do you condition yourself to better deal with conflict and confrontation in your daily life?
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How do you condition yourself to better deal with conflict and confrontation in your daily life?
@gottadoit3 (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=13818)
Not my area of expertise, but I have tried to think about the importance of the situation before reacting. If it isn’t going to be important down the road, don’t sweat it.