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Title: Quitting Snus-Quit Date May 3
Post by: Redwood on May 07, 2019, 11:25:58 AM
Hello All,

I am finally ready to quit this terrible addiction for good.  I want to quit for myself and for my family.  I have nightmares that I will be the reason why my five year old son will become addicted some day in the future.  I want to break the chain, as I learned tobacco use from my dad and I do not want my son to learn it from me.  I would not wish this addiction on my worst enemy, let alone my son.
I am 34 years old and have been addicted to nicotine since I was 16.  Used Cope for many years and then switched to Swedish Snus in 2007.  I have been using snus everyday since then, so about 12 years.  It is time to be a man and embrace the suck.  I am on day 4-5 and I feel extremely weird.  Brain fog and inability to concentrate, time standing still, strong cravings, mental games.  I want to know what life is like without nicotine and so I will move forward one day at a time.  Very happy to be part of this forum.

Justin
Title: Re: Quitting Snus-Quit Date May 3
Post by: Palpatine on May 07, 2019, 11:37:56 AM
Hello All,

I am finally ready to quit this terrible addiction for good.  I want to quit for myself and for my family.  I have nightmares that I will be the reason why my five year old son will become addicted some day in the future.  I want to break the chain, as I learned tobacco use from my dad and I do not want my son to learn it from me.  I would not wish this addiction on my worst enemy, let alone my son.
I am 34 years old and have been addicted to nicotine since I was 16.  Used Cope for many years and then switched to Swedish Snus in 2007.  I have been using snus everyday since then, so about 12 years.  It is time to be a man and embrace the suck.  I am on day 4-5 and I feel extremely weird.  Brain fog and inability to concentrate, time standing still, strong cravings, mental games.  I want to know what life is like without nicotine and so I will move forward one day at a time.  Very happy to be part of this forum.

Justin
Welcome Justin!  One day at a time. 

Think about it this way...if you wanted to climb Mount Everist, you'd probably want to prepare for that...you wouldn't just fly over there and start climbing it right away without any guidance, right?  You'd likely just say, "Screw this...I'm giving up" and then go back to what you were doing.  Same goes with dipping.  Quitting forever is and can be an unachievable feat in itself just thinking about it.  But - quitting for today?  Well, 24 hours is achievable.  Just take it step by step...one day at a time.  Do it today...be victorious and then wake up and do it again tomorrow.  I've been doing that for 1218 days in a row and I'm still quit today.  Never had I quit for more than 30 days in my 22 years using.  I'm an addict...I'll always be addicted but I am managing my addiction by quitting one day at a time.

Get in that mind set and jump in here.  It is successful if you use the program.  Glad you made the decision for YOU! 
Title: Re: Quitting Snus-Quit Date May 3
Post by: RDB on May 07, 2019, 11:56:08 AM
Welcome, nice job posting roll.

Like Palp said, we take it one day at a time here. Make your promise (by posting roll), and keep your promise. Do the same thing tomorrow, and every tomorrow afterward, and you won't fail. Simple as can be. Hard as hell, but simple.

What is life like without nicotine? Much better than with. At least after the fog has lifted. When will the fog lift? It's different for everyone, and it's a gradual process. But you are likely near the end. But still be ready for ups and downs. Even after 100 days quit, you'll get what I call "come out of nowhere and smack you between the eyes" craves. That's when your daily promise is so important.

Buy into the method here, and you will succeed. Get to know the guys in your group, exchange digits, read all your schedule will allow.
Title: Re: Quitting Snus-Quit Date May 3
Post by: FLLipOut on May 07, 2019, 03:11:28 PM
Life without nicotine is fantastic, Justin!  Believe that - believe what all of us ahead of you in day count are going to tell you...the suck you are going through now won't last and is just a small step in this journey you are on.  There will be some ups and downs and twists and turns, no doubt, but this road is leading to freedom.  And if you let it, it may just change your life for the better in all sorts of ways you couldn't have imagined. 

Until then, one day at a time, keep plugging on, and trust us when we say this gets sooo much better!
Title: Re: Quitting Snus-Quit Date May 3
Post by: Rick Jr on May 07, 2019, 08:36:48 PM
Welcome Brother and I am glad you are joining us. Listen as you can see this will be tough, but you can do it, One Day at a time. Walk Up, Piss, Post that Promise and keep it for 24 hours and do it again tomorrow. One Day, One Hour, One Minute, One Second, Set that line in the sand in your head, get to it , draw the next. Swap Digits with your Group mates, Talk, Call, Text, Post on the group page. If you would like my Digits they are a PM Away.

Welcome to the best decision of your life! Proud to quit with you Today!

Rick Jr
Masters of Mayhem
May 19
Title: Re: Quitting Snus-Quit Date May 3
Post by: Falcon67 on May 08, 2019, 08:37:44 AM
Justin keep WUPP here -- it WORKS.  I was a heavy Swedish Snus user for years -- that stuff is NO JOKE!  Kick it to the curb and do not look back.

Take this quit one day at a time -- you have a great group that will support you as much as you support them!

Stay Tough!
Title: Re: Quitting Snus-Quit Date May 3
Post by: Dundippin on May 09, 2019, 05:45:29 AM
Justindsing,

Welcome to the group. Here are some words of wisdom I like to share:

The main way to be successful is to just decide that you have quit. Once you stop the negotiating in your head as to whether you will do one more or not the rest becomes far more simple.

The next important thing is to learn how to distract your attention. When you get those thoughts about dipping, switch your attention and think about something else. Anything else that you like. This ability to change your focus will guarantee your success and make your quit that much easier.

When you place a dip in your mouth, your brain releases sugars. Well, those sugars are now going to be gone.

However, you can replace them with OJ or other fruit juices with sugar. This will provide some comfort, especially on your initial quit days.

Make sure to exercise with weights and cardio when you feel that nagging tension in your muscles, you feel that rage, when you can not sleep and when you cannot focus. Exercise really helps.

Here is one that most people overlook. Get at least 3 square meals a day. Hunger can really bring on those urges so squash those urges before they come. Eat full healthy meals and do not let yourself get excessively hungry. You will see this helps a great deal.

I waited until I was 59 quit after using tobacco for 40 years. You are wise to quit now.

I quit with you today.

Dundippin day 1333
Title: Re: Quitting Snus-Quit Date May 3
Post by: Redwood on May 09, 2019, 09:52:52 AM
Thanks to all for the support, encouragement, and words of wisdom.  This would be so much more difficult without others who have been through where I am now.
I wanted to clarify something in my intro that has been bothering me the last few days.  I want to make it clear that I do not blame my dad in any way for my addiction.  I made my own choice.  The friends I started dipping with in high school did not have nicotine addicted parents, so I believe that I would have done it anyways.  To his credit, when I told my dad for the first time that I had been dipping some with my friends, he tried to talk me out of it.  He told me that it was fun now with the buzz, but one day I would wake up and the buzz would be gone and I would be addicted.  He told me to drop it before that happened because after addiction I would have to deal with it for the rest of my life and he did not want that for me.  Of course at 17 I knew better and I did not take his advice, and now I am having to deal with it. 
My dad has struggled to quit many times over the years and has for different periods of time.  He and I always talk about needing to quit but we always have put it off.  I hope that I can bring him on to KTC one of these days and encourage him by my experience here. 
Title: Re: Quitting Snus-Quit Date May 3
Post by: Redwood on November 13, 2019, 02:16:38 PM
Day 56.  Many ups and downs and struggles to remember why I quit in the first place.  Digging through some emails I found the below "Resolution" that my Dad and I made together a few years back.  We never followed through at that time but I plan to now.  Finding this helped remind me why I quit and why I need to stay quit.
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ 

We, __________ and __________, respectively, do hereby confess that we are addicted to the substance known as nicotine, commonly found in the plant called tobacco. Our tobacco of choice is Swedish Snus, not to be confused with the less inferior American Snus, and we freely admit that we receive a high degree of enjoyment from the use of said snus. Together, we have decided to each endeavor to rid our lives of the burden which is nicotine addiction. We do this with a sober mind and of our own free will, for the good of our families and ourselves, knowing full well that it will not be in the least an easy task.  We believe that at its root nicotine addiction is selfish.  The only benefit provided is a personal pleasure, at the cost of the influence we have on our families and friends, our health, and our pocketbook.  We desire to look to and rely on our God and our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ for comfort and peace, not the false comfort and peace provided by tobacco.  We long to break the chain of nicotine addiction in our family, so that our grandsons and sons will not inherit this habit through the folly of our flawed example. We commit to pray for power to overcome addiction, and for mental strength to withstand temptation.  Life is more than tobacco, and we desire to have a healthier and more abundant life with this addiction behind us. We sign this statement and pledge, declaring it to be a true reflection of our beliefs; and with every intention, relying on God, to see its culmination in reality.  May we display strength and Honor as we strive to uphold this joint resolution.
 Signed in this the year of Our Lord 2016, the fifteenth day of April.
Title: Re: Quitting Snus-Quit Date May 3
Post by: Athan on November 13, 2019, 07:23:45 PM
...Strength and honor
Title: Re: Quitting Snus-Quit Date May 3
Post by: Redwood on January 17, 2020, 09:18:14 AM
From BrianG:

Day 200

Today marks my second Hall of Fame day. It has been a while since I have updated my progress
so I thought I would write about the last 100 days, day 101 to 200. The one thing I have noticed
here on KTCk, is that not much is written about the days after your HOF. I understand that the
first 100 days are very important and that is where the focus is. After completing the second
100 days, I think some attention needs to be paid to this time frame. I believe the second 100 days
are tougher than the first, bar maybe week 1. Let me explain.

During the first 100 days, your group is getting a lot of attention. You have a goal in sight and
you are excited about reaching the HOF. If you have any competitive spirit to you at all, 100 days
is not that difficult. You make your promise everyday and keep your eye on the prize. If you get
through the first couple weeks, it is very doable. After the HOF, the attention to your group tends
to fade. People in your group tend to drift off. We have lost well over a third of the guys who
made it to HOF in the second 100 days. A few to caves and some who felt they were cured. This is the
time where you really have to dig deep and remember what you quit for in the first place.

I quit because it was time. 35 years was enough. I took tobacco off the table on day 1 and refused
to ever let it be an option no matter how bad it got. That is the mentality that got me through those
first days and the mentality that got me to the HOF. Shortly after day 100, I started to have craves
comparative to the first week. I found myself thinking about dipping quite often. I was in a funk
that was hard to get out of. During the next 100 days, that voice in my head has gotten louder. Many
times I have found my inner voice trying to convince me that I have quit long enough. That one dip
would not affect me like the others. I could do 1 dip and be quit. I have asked myself more than a
few times if I really want to be quit. These thoughts have come many times over these last 100 days.
Every time, I have been able to convince myself that I am quit for good reason. I try and remember day
1 again. I go to the new groups and read how those poor bastards are doing. I say to myself, never
doing day 1 again. I have to stay quit. I relied on my group to get me through. A few phone calls
and lots of texts to different people.

I cant imagine going through these last 100 days without my group, without KTC as a whole. I am positive
that I would have caved somewhere along the way if I wasnt continuing to post roll everyday. I see
people leave and wonder how they can do it. How do they have the confidence to stay quit? I hope there
comes a day when I can have the confidence to leave KTC and know that I am quit forever. I know that
thought is not popular on this site, but like it or not, that is my goal.

My hope is that the next 100 days are easier than the last 100 days. People keep saying that it gets better.
I believe they are right, but I am getting tired of reading about it and not realizing it. With all this
being said, I would not change a thing. I have been quit for 200 days. I am proud of that. I will keep
battling the inner voice with the help of all of you.
Title: Re: Quitting Snus-Quit Date May 3
Post by: Redwood on January 17, 2020, 09:26:37 AM
I have been reading a lot on whyquit.com lately and it has been helpful.  Recently discovered this grief cycle and it has helped me make sense of where I am at the moment.  There is no doubt that I am still in the depression stage.  I need to find some way of getting over the hurdle and reaching acceptance. 

In 1982, Joel Spitzer applied the Kubler-Ross grief cycle model to the
emotional journey navigated during recovery.
 The five stages of emotional
healing include:
1. Denial: "I'm not really going to quit. I'll just pretend and see
how far I get."
2. Anger: "Have I really had my last nicotine fix? "This just isn't
 fair!"
3. Bargaining: "Maybe I can do it just once more. Two days without, I've
 earned it!"
4. Depression: "This is never going to end." What's the use?" "Why
 bother?"
5. Acceptance: "Hey, I'm feeling pretty good!" "I can do this!" "This is
 great!"
Title: Re: Quitting Snus-Quit Date May 3
Post by: Redwood on February 10, 2020, 09:41:25 AM
2019 DECEMBER: Quit Syndicate
  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsppQ4tTAwM[anchor=roll)


'gaySOS' 'gaySOS' 'gaySOS' 'gaySOS' 'gaySOS' 


Monday, February 10th, 2020

December '19 SSOA (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/111meAU-TipaXtv4AskjSy9tgMEqqwSU5Un7DLDtzFhA/edit?usp=sharing)
Fresh Roll (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=post;quote=7755689;topic=15827.0)

 

December HOF Speeches
Admudbogn (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?topic=16122.0)
Redwood (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?topic=16184.0)
Done09 (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?topic=16185.0)

Mike08 (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?topic=16285.0)
Jeff76107 (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?topic=16299.0)
Joey6t4 (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?topic=16308.0)



Bad Ass quitters post your promise below to be nicotine free for today:


Admudbogn
KD2
CEN2
Jeff76107
patriotkiller18
Uncle Pat
drewski
Done09
Kws33
Chrink82
ForGoodThisTime
Tim Dimon
Jlaverty5874
NateDog123
joey6t4
Rick Sanchez
Mike08
Redwood
Antlerman
NAS84
BaylorGrad19



Bad Ass supporters post your promise below to be nicotine free for today:
Title: Re: Quitting Snus-Quit Date May 3
Post by: Redwood on February 10, 2020, 09:41:43 AM
2019 DECEMBER: Quit Syndicate
  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsppQ4tTAwM[anchor=roll)


'gaySOS' 'gaySOS' 'gaySOS' 'gaySOS' 'gaySOS' 


Monday, February 10th, 2020

December '19 SSOA (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/111meAU-TipaXtv4AskjSy9tgMEqqwSU5Un7DLDtzFhA/edit?usp=sharing)
Fresh Roll (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=post;quote=7755689;topic=15827.0)

 

December HOF Speeches
Admudbogn (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?topic=16122.0)
Redwood (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?topic=16184.0)
Done09 (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?topic=16185.0)

Mike08 (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?topic=16285.0)
Jeff76107 (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?topic=16299.0)
Joey6t4 (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?topic=16308.0)



Bad Ass quitters post your promise below to be nicotine free for today:


Admudbogn
KD2
CEN2
Jeff76107
patriotkiller18
Uncle Pat
drewski
Done09
Kws33
Chrink82
ForGoodThisTime
Tim Dimon
Jlaverty5874
NateDog123
joey6t4
Rick Sanchez
Mike08
Redwood
Antlerman
NAS84
BaylorGrad19



Bad Ass supporters post your promise below to be nicotine free for today:
Title: Re: Quitting Snus-Quit Date May 3
Post by: Redwood on February 10, 2020, 10:03:18 AM
poof
Title: Re: Quitting Snus-Quit Date May 3
Post by: Redwood on March 13, 2020, 09:51:24 AM
Good stuff right here.

Words of Wisdom: Why We Post: Today (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?topic=2160.0)

Today

I will remember I am an addict.

I will make the decision to stay quit just for today. Tomorrow will take care of itself.

I will post roll today to both remind myself I am an addict, and to steel my quit against temptation.

Today I will stand shoulder to shoulder with my fellow quitters and both hold them up and hold them accountable.

Today I will remember that nicotine isn't good for anything but keeping me addicted to nicotine.

Today I will remember Kenzi Kern and I will hug my children tight.

Today I will not hide from my family or friends to satisfy my addiction

Today my battered mind and body will continue to heal from years of ingesting a neurotoxic weed.

Today I live within the bounds of my word and my desire to stay free .

Today I stay quit.

sM.
Title: Re: Quitting Snus-Quit Date May 3
Post by: Redwood on March 27, 2020, 11:58:14 AM
I have the below poem hanging above the desk in my man cave.  The other day I took the time to read it again for the first time during my quit.  It gave me some motivation and I wanted to share it.  My 6 year old son is my shadow.  He does everything he sees me do and wants to be just like me.  If that is not motivation to stay quit I don't know what is.

A Little Fellow Follows Me  (https://store.artofmanliness.com/products/a-little-fellow-follows-me-poem-print)
Rev Claude Wisdom White

A careful man I want to be,
A little fellow follows me;
I do not dare to go astray,
For fear he’ll go the self-same way.
I cannot once escape his eyes,
Whate’er he sees me do, he tries;
Like me he says he’s going to be,
The little chap who follows me.
He thinks that I am good and fine,
Believes in every word of mine;
The base in me he must not see,
The little chap who follows me.
I must remember as I go,
Through summer’s sun and winter’s snow;
I’m building for the years to be
That little chap who follows me.
Title: Re: Quitting Snus-Quit Date May 3
Post by: EXBEARHAG on March 28, 2020, 04:43:30 PM
I have the below poem hanging above the desk in my man cave.  The other day I took the time to read it again for the first time during my quit.  It gave me some motivation and I wanted to share it.  My 6 year old son is my shadow.  He does everything he sees me do and wants to be just like me.  If that is not motivation to stay quit I don't know what is.

A Little Fellow Follows Me  (https://store.artofmanliness.com/products/a-little-fellow-follows-me-poem-print)
Rev Claude Wisdom White

A careful man I want to be,
A little fellow follows me;
I do not dare to go astray,
For fear he’ll go the self-same way.
I cannot once escape his eyes,
Whate’er he sees me do, he tries;
Like me he says he’s going to be,
The little chap who follows me.
He thinks that I am good and fine,
Believes in every word of mine;
The base in me he must not see,
The little chap who follows me.
I must remember as I go,
Through summer’s sun and winter’s snow;
I’m building for the years to be
That little chap who follows me.


Love it Red.  Got a little choked up reading it.  That is one of my greatest regrets.  I have 4 kids.  3 boys (14, 12, 10) and a little girl (5).  My boys watched me dip for years and were old enough to know what I was doing.  I never put one in, took one out, or took out my can in front of them.  But they knew.  I set a bad example for them and can NEVER take that back.  That's on me.  I just hope I still have time to reverse the damage I did.  We are now open about my addiction and the road I've had to tread to beat it...thus far.  But the regret and embarrassment I feel will not go away any time soon. 

You are doing the right thing trying to control this addiction while your son is young.  I promise to do my best to be there to help you.  God speed Brother.
Title: Re: Quitting Snus-Quit Date May 3
Post by: Bug Guy on March 31, 2020, 09:52:43 PM
Here to say thank you Justin for being you and for being a friend. Keep rockin and rollin and giving nic the stiff arm. Proud as hell to call you a brother!