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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: Daviddim on April 18, 2014, 01:38:00 PM
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Unfortunately my hooch was held from me yesterday by the mail lady because shes scared of dogs. I EXPLODED in a fit of rage that she held the one thing that could save my life, drove to the bar, and had a cigarette with a friend. I will not let it happen again, i do not want nicotine in my life anymore and last night was yet another example of its negative effect on my life and my happiness. Its day 1 no nicotine for me again, but i feel stronger this time, smarter this time. Get away from me Nicotine.
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Unfortunately my hooch was held from me yesterday by the mail lady because shes scared of dogs. I EXPLODED in a fit of rage that she held the one thing that could save my life, drove to the bar, and had a cigarette with a friend. I will not let it happen again, i do not want nicotine in my life anymore and last night was yet another example of its negative effect on my life and my happiness. Its day 1 no nicotine for me again, but i feel stronger this time, smarter this time. Get away from me Nicotine.
Sheesh. You should've sacked up.
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Are you fucking kidding me? You have been given various numbers, we're hanging out in chat last night as you were struggling, and then went out and consciously used? Perhaps you don't understand how we do things around here and how serious this is. NO FUCKING NICOTINE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. You don't think you are going to struggle unbelievably throughout the first 100? 200? 365? News flash - there is a whole lot of suck still to come. It's the price we pay for being stupid.
Unreal. Since you are new, I'll introduce you to how you answer to fucking up. You have to post answers to the three retread questions in this intro and in your group page:
1. What happened?
2. Why did it happen?
3. What are you going to do to make sure it never happens again?
Mandatory
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I EXPLODED in a fit of rage that she held the one thing that could save my life...
Wrong.
You, alone, make the choice to save your life by NOT choosing to be a slave. Blaming outside forces... full on addict speak.
Get with it.
Answer the 3.
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I EXPLODED in a fit of rage that she held the one thing that could save my life...
Wrong.
You, alone, make the choice to save your life by NOT choosing to be a slave. Blaming outside forces... full on addict speak.
Get with it.
Answer the 3.
If you take the time, and make the effort to snoop around KTC you will find tales of serious quitters that have faced horrible tragedy and not caved. You didn't get your hooch shipment? Give me a break. You have to want this more than that.
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I EXPLODED in a fit of rage that she held the one thing that could save my life...
Wrong.
You, alone, make the choice to save your life by NOT choosing to be a slave. Blaming outside forces... full on addict speak.
Get with it.
Answer the 3.
If you take the time, and make the effort to snoop around KTC you will find tales of serious quitters that have faced horrible tragedy and not caved. You didn't get your hooch shipment? Give me a break. You have to want this more than that.
And you posted a day 5 earlier on roll!?
We. Do. Not. Lie. On. Roll.
Oh man...
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I EXPLODED in a fit of rage that she held the one thing that could save my life...
Wrong.
You, alone, make the choice to save your life by NOT choosing to be a slave. Blaming outside forces... full on addict speak.
Get with it.
Answer the 3.
If you take the time, and make the effort to snoop around KTC you will find tales of serious quitters that have faced horrible tragedy and not caved. You didn't get your hooch shipment? Give me a break. You have to want this more than that.
Rdad nailed it. I've seen people lose wives, jobs and lives and remain quit. You on the other hand get upset because your special herb doesn't arrive. You drive to the neighborhood bar and suckle with the poison like it's your fix it.
You want this you gotta dig a heck of a lot deeper. You say it's different today. Only +1's are believable. Addicts are liars until they aren't.
Let's see them answers. Not for us, but yourself.
Start reading about your addiction. Arm yourself with knowledge. Began getting that dignity back that has been stolen. You will be tested again my friend. Soon!!
Check your local walmart. They might carry smoky mountain. The fake will only help to a point. The real answer lies deep. You can do this. You have to take it. The poison don't just give it to you freely. Let's see what you got. Right now I'm thinking, not much.
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The addict in all of us is looking for an excuse to Cave. The Addict loves Nic. I found that Hating the FUCK out of Nic helps. I am tested every day. (I am on day 9 today). I have looked at my own intro thread and more importantly, the July Roll with my name on it promising to no use today. It works one day at a time. So, Fucking HATE NICOTINE. it works for me.
so 1. answer the questions.
2. post roll
and I will quit with you.
Quitter123
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The addict in all of us is looking for an excuse to Cave. The Addict loves Nic. I found that Hating the FUCK out of Nic helps. I am tested every day. (I am on day 9 today). I have looked at my own intro thread and more importantly, the July Roll with my name on it promising to no use today. It works one day at a time. So, Fucking HATE NICOTINE. it works for me.
so 1. answer the questions.
2. post roll
and I will quit with you.
Quitter123
What Quitter 123 said. And change your quit date in your profile. Almost as bad as the guy who caved over a diet coke...We should let WCWBigNasty in here.
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The addict in all of us is looking for an excuse to Cave. The Addict loves Nic. I found that Hating the FUCK out of Nic helps. I am tested every day. (I am on day 9 today). I have looked at my own intro thread and more importantly, the July Roll with my name on it promising to no use today. It works one day at a time. So, Fucking HATE NICOTINE. it works for me.
so 1. answer the questions.
2. post roll
and I will quit with you.
Quitter123
What Quitter 123 said. And change your quit date in your profile. Almost as bad as the guy who caved over a diet coke...We should let WCWBigNasty in here.
I don't know if that's such a good idea slug.go. It would spice up this Friday afternoon though. I'm bored. 'Popcorn'
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I'll repeat this...
He posted earlier this morning knowing he caved last night... "Daviddim - day5!I'm so proud I've made it this far, it really does get easier"
Then... he posted a "whoa is me I cheated 'cuz I got mad" day 1 a few hours later.
He lied on roll.
This should not get a pass.
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I'll repeat this...
He posted earlier this morning knowing he caved last night... "Daviddim - day5!I'm so proud I've made it this far, it really does get easier"
Then... he posted a "whoa is me I cheated 'cuz I got mad" day 1 a few hours later.
He lied on roll.
This should not get a pass.
I missed that he caved last night. Then posted roll this morning?
Oh man... is right!
There is no excuse for not upholding the sanctity of roll call.
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Are you fucking kidding me? You have been given various numbers, we're hanging out in chat last night as you were struggling, and then went out and consciously used? Perhaps you don't understand how we do things around here and how serious this is. NO FUCKING NICOTINE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. You don't think you are going to struggle unbelievably throughout the first 100? 200? 365? News flash - there is a whole lot of suck still to come. It's the price we pay for being stupid.
Unreal. Since you are new, I'll introduce you to how you answer to fucking up. You have to post answers to the three retread questions in this intro and in your group page:
1. What happened?
2. Why did it happen?
3. What are you going to do to make sure it never happens again?
Mandatory
Go easy on the guy. He didn't get his Hooch. He was mad. He couldn't help it. It wasn't his fault. He didn't really cave, it was the rage and the lack of hooch that caved.
None of us were ever as mad as this guy when we quit. He HAD to cave. He HAD to sully roll call, lie and then make lame ass excuses. It saved his life. None of us understand. We had it easy, but this guy is just struggling more than the thousands of others who quit here everyday. WE are only semi-addicted and he's a full blown addict.
Answer the questions, david. And no bullshit excuses.
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I'll repeat this...
He posted earlier this morning knowing he caved last night... "Daviddim - day5!I'm so proud I've made it this far, it really does get easier"
Then... he posted a "whoa is me I cheated 'cuz I got mad" day 1 a few hours later.
He lied on roll.
This should not get a pass.
I missed that he caved last night. Then posted roll this morning?
Oh man... is right!
There is no excuse for not upholding the sanctity of roll call.
That's horse shit if accurate. I say boot his ass.
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I'll repeat this...
He posted earlier this morning knowing he caved last night... "Daviddim - day5!I'm so proud I've made it this far, it really does get easier"
Then... he posted a "whoa is me I cheated 'cuz I got mad" day 1 a few hours later.
He lied on roll.
This should not get a pass.
I missed that he caved last night. Then posted roll this morning?
Oh man... is right!
There is no excuse for not upholding the sanctity of roll call.
That's horse shit if accurate. I say boot his ass.
Dude, if you went and caved because you didn't get your hooch, what the fuck are you going to do when you face some real problems. Grow a set of nuts and either quit or don't, but don't jerk us around. that is all.
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LAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEE! If you are going to fly off in a fit of rage because you didn't get your hooch then you have some issues other then addiction...maybe you need to go get a hug...maybe a coke. If you're that big of an asshole to flip out on a mail lady then maybe you need to get into some counseling to find out why you are such an asshole. I want to know if you had posted that day when you burned one down? If you did, then your word is pretty meaningless.
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LAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEE! If you are going to fly off in a fit of rage because you didn't get your hooch then you have some issues other then addiction...maybe you need to go get a hug...maybe a coke. If you're that big of an asshole to flip out on a mail lady then maybe you need to get into some counseling to find out why you are such an asshole. I want to know if you had posted that day when you burned one down? If you did, then your word is pretty meaningless.
He posted a day 5 after a cigarette the night before. Then he came back later and changed it to a day 1.
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LAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEE! If you are going to fly off in a fit of rage because you didn't get your hooch then you have some issues other then addiction...maybe you need to go get a hug...maybe a coke. If you're that big of an asshole to flip out on a mail lady then maybe you need to get into some counseling to find out why you are such an asshole. I want to know if you had posted that day when you burned one down? If you did, then your word is pretty meaningless.
He posted a day 5 after a cigarette the night before. Then he came back later and changed it to a day 1.
but did he post a day 4?
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LAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEE! If you are going to fly off in a fit of rage because you didn't get your hooch then you have some issues other then addiction...maybe you need to go get a hug...maybe a coke. If you're that big of an asshole to flip out on a mail lady then maybe you need to get into some counseling to find out why you are such an asshole. I want to know if you had posted that day when you burned one down? If you did, then your word is pretty meaningless.
He posted a day 5 after a cigarette the night before. Then he came back later and changed it to a day 1.
but did he post a day 4?
I don't think it matters if he posted a day 4. If the chronology is correct he smoked a cigarette on the night of his day 4, woke up on what would've been day 5 (had he not caved), and posted day 5. He then came back later and changed his day 5 to a day 1, admitting he smoked a cigarette the night before.
Is this correct, daviddim? Please correct us if we are wrong.
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LAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEE! If you are going to fly off in a fit of rage because you didn't get your hooch then you have some issues other then addiction...maybe you need to go get a hug...maybe a coke. If you're that big of an asshole to flip out on a mail lady then maybe you need to get into some counseling to find out why you are such an asshole. I want to know if you had posted that day when you burned one down? If you did, then your word is pretty meaningless.
He posted a day 5 after a cigarette the night before. Then he came back later and changed it to a day 1.
but did he post a day 4?
I don't think it matters if he posted a day 4. If the chronology is correct he smoked a cigarette on the night of his day 4, woke up on what would've been day 5 (had he not caved), and posted day 5. He then came back later and changed his day 5 to a day 1, admitting he smoked a cigarette the night before.
Is this correct, daviddim? Please correct us if we are wrong.
That's kind of my point GHC...if he posted day 4 and smoked a cigarette that night then that means he went back on his promise that he posted that morning. In my short time around this website almost every caver goes away for awhile and that's when the cave happens...they (me included) didn't post anything so they didn't make a promise then they caved...this guy posted a promise and went against it that day...that would make his promises from now on fairly meaningless...that's the whole point of this site. Most men have some integrity and keep their word...i don't see that from this fellow.
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Oh man, i apologize i didnt realize i had so many replies on this. 3 questions were answered after my Day 1 roll was posted. Il post it here so all of you can read it.
With that aside, i get it. IM AN IDIOT, that was not me it was my nic hulk speaking, and it was the nic hulk that woke up in the morning and wanted to lie about it. The fact remains that i DID remain honest and i DID tell you all, we all make mistakes and mine was not utilizing this site that blessed me with 4 sober days in the first place. I couldnt have done it without all of you and i sure as shit will not forget that this time around. I owe it to you all to keep going and be a good example to future quitters.
Back to 4 days sober
Thank you MCO, Erussel, Bronc and P23 for slapping some fucking sense into me.
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LAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEE! If you are going to fly off in a fit of rage because you didn't get your hooch then you have some issues other then addiction...maybe you need to go get a hug...maybe a coke. If you're that big of an asshole to flip out on a mail lady then maybe you need to get into some counseling to find out why you are such an asshole. I want to know if you had posted that day when you burned one down? If you did, then your word is pretty meaningless.
So, I dont struggle from anger, in fact noone in my family has EVER seen me angry until that day. The fact is, ive never experienced anger through withdrawals before, i became irrational, stupid and the worst part is i didnt look to the people who got be 4 days sober in the first place. Im sorry this made you angry, apparently. I know you feel like i spat in your face. Just know that im truly sorry and ive laid out a plan not to let this happen again.
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My fuck up was a result of anger, i was waiting for my package of hooch yesterday, but only got a pink slip. The mail lady is scared of my dogs, i turned red with anger blaming the world for making my quit harder when really the only person that made it harder was MYSELF.
It happened because i was not prepared to face that anger, and because i did not UTILIZE this site to get me through it. This site and all of you got me through 4 days, why i did not come to all of you when my switch flipped yesterday baffles me since you have gotten me through so many cravings already.
This time around, if you will all still hold out your hand to help me after i made the stupid decision to stab you all in the back. I want to truly talk to you all and gather advice on how YOU would have gotten through that situation if it were you. My mistake was not coming to you all last night, and i know that. It will not happen again if you all will still have me.
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My fuck up was a result of anger, i was waiting for my package of hooch yesterday, but only got a pink slip. The mail lady is scared of my dogs, i turned red with anger blaming the world for making my quit harder when really the only person that made it harder was MYSELF.
It happened because i was not prepared to face that anger, and because i did not UTILIZE this site to get me through it. This site and all of you got me through 4 days, why i did not come to all of you when my switch flipped yesterday baffles me since you have gotten me through so many cravings already.
This time around, if you will all still hold out your hand to help me after i made the stupid decision to stab you all in the back. I want to truly talk to you all and gather advice on how YOU would have gotten through that situation if it were you. My mistake was not coming to you all last night, and i know that. It will not happen again if you all will still have me.
I quit with you.
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My fuck up was a result of anger, i was waiting for my package of hooch yesterday, but only got a pink slip. The mail lady is scared of my dogs, i turned red with anger blaming the world for making my quit harder when really the only person that made it harder was MYSELF.
It happened because i was not prepared to face that anger, and because i did not UTILIZE this site to get me through it. This site and all of you got me through 4 days, why i did not come to all of you when my switch flipped yesterday baffles me since you have gotten me through so many cravings already.
This time around, if you will all still hold out your hand to help me after i made the stupid decision to stab you all in the back. I want to truly talk to you all and gather advice on how YOU would have gotten through that situation if it were you. My mistake was not coming to you all last night, and i know that. It will not happen again if you all will still have me.
"....how I would have gotten through that situation?"
I am tired of hearing you pose that question. Only YOU know that answer. We all chose to ignore LIFE by stuffing our faces with poison. We all are still learning how to deal with LIFE w/o that poison. You in ONE moment of selfish, woe-is-me, spite decided that YOU aren't worth it. YOU have to figure out how YOU are going to stay away from that darkness. What are you willing to do to stay QUIT?
It takes nuts davey. Big fucking yak nuts.
Vadge 829. I will not use. Not Today.
*PS - the hands are everywhere.
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My fuck up was a result of anger, i was waiting for my package of hooch yesterday, but only got a pink slip. The mail lady is scared of my dogs, i turned red with anger blaming the world for making my quit harder when really the only person that made it harder was MYSELF.
It happened because i was not prepared to face that anger, and because i did not UTILIZE this site to get me through it. This site and all of you got me through 4 days, why i did not come to all of you when my switch flipped yesterday baffles me since you have gotten me through so many cravings already.
This time around, if you will all still hold out your hand to help me after i made the stupid decision to stab you all in the back. I want to truly talk to you all and gather advice on how YOU would have gotten through that situation if it were you. My mistake was not coming to you all last night, and i know that. It will not happen again if you all will still have me.
"....how I would have gotten through that situation?"
I am tired of hearing you pose that question. Only YOU know that answer. We all chose to ignore LIFE by stuffing our faces with poison. We all are still learning how to deal with LIFE w/o that poison. You in ONE moment of selfish, woe-is-me, spite decided that YOU aren't worth it. YOU have to figure out how YOU are going to stay away from that darkness. What are you willing to do to stay QUIT?
It takes nuts davey. Big fucking yak nuts.
Vadge 829. I will not use. Not Today.
*PS - the hands are everywhere.
NOT TODAY.
And I mean it. Cuz I got yak nuts, too.
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My fuck up was a result of anger, i was waiting for my package of hooch yesterday, but only got a pink slip. The mail lady is scared of my dogs, i turned red with anger blaming the world for making my quit harder when really the only person that made it harder was MYSELF.
It happened because i was not prepared to face that anger, and because i did not UTILIZE this site to get me through it. This site and all of you got me through 4 days, why i did not come to all of you when my switch flipped yesterday baffles me since you have gotten me through so many cravings already.
This time around, if you will all still hold out your hand to help me after i made the stupid decision to stab you all in the back. I want to truly talk to you all and gather advice on how YOU would have gotten through that situation if it were you. My mistake was not coming to you all last night, and i know that. It will not happen again if you all will still have me.
"....how I would have gotten through that situation?"
I am tired of hearing you pose that question. Only YOU know that answer. We all chose to ignore LIFE by stuffing our faces with poison. We all are still learning how to deal with LIFE w/o that poison. You in ONE moment of selfish, woe-is-me, spite decided that YOU aren't worth it. YOU have to figure out how YOU are going to stay away from that darkness. What are you willing to do to stay QUIT?
It takes nuts davey. Big fucking yak nuts.
Vadge 829. I will not use. Not Today.
*PS - the hands are everywhere.
NOT TODAY.
And I mean it. Cuz I got yak nuts, too.
well if you read through me intro...i got through i fit of rage by putting my size 14 shoe through a wall at work...wasn't the smartest thing i ever did but i paid to have it fixed and i'll have made that money back on the dip i'm not buying anymore. your situation is yours alone....you need to learn how to breath through the anger, go read a book, do some pushups, furiously masterbate, whatever keeps the shit out of your mouth.
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My fuck up was a result of anger, i was waiting for my package of hooch yesterday, but only got a pink slip. The mail lady is scared of my dogs, i turned red with anger blaming the world for making my quit harder when really the only person that made it harder was MYSELF.
It happened because i was not prepared to face that anger, and because i did not UTILIZE this site to get me through it. This site and all of you got me through 4 days, why i did not come to all of you when my switch flipped yesterday baffles me since you have gotten me through so many cravings already.
This time around, if you will all still hold out your hand to help me after i made the stupid decision to stab you all in the back. I want to truly talk to you all and gather advice on how YOU would have gotten through that situation if it were you. My mistake was not coming to you all last night, and i know that. It will not happen again if you all will still have me.
"....how I would have gotten through that situation?"
I am tired of hearing you pose that question. Only YOU know that answer. We all chose to ignore LIFE by stuffing our faces with poison. We all are still learning how to deal with LIFE w/o that poison. You in ONE moment of selfish, woe-is-me, spite decided that YOU aren't worth it. YOU have to figure out how YOU are going to stay away from that darkness. What are you willing to do to stay QUIT?
It takes nuts davey. Big fucking yak nuts.
Vadge 829. I will not use. Not Today.
*PS - the hands are everywhere.
NOT TODAY.
And I mean it. Cuz I got yak nuts, too.
well if you read through me intro...i got through i fit of rage by putting my size 14 shoe through a wall at work...wasn't the smartest thing i ever did but i paid to have it fixed and i'll have made that money back on the dip i'm not buying anymore. your situation is yours alone....you need to learn how to breath through the anger, go read a book, do some pushups, furiously masterbate, whatever keeps the shit out of your mouth.
...and learn how to keep your word like a man.
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Daviddim,
today won't be the end of your "lumps" I'm sure as caving is not a popular activity. One piece of advice...get to know your quit brothers intimately. Its easy to not keep your word if you have no relationship with the people on the site or are disconnected. Thats one of the reasons that those that don't post everyday....fail...no connection. Call those numbers that you have now, and let them know you will be giving them a call later this week, or this month to help you through those times when you just want to say "fuck it". We survive through community.
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My fuck up was a result of anger, i was waiting for my package of hooch yesterday, but only got a pink slip. The mail lady is scared of my dogs, i turned red with anger blaming the world for making my quit harder when really the only person that made it harder was MYSELF.
It happened because i was not prepared to face that anger, and because i did not UTILIZE this site to get me through it. This site and all of you got me through 4 days, why i did not come to all of you when my switch flipped yesterday baffles me since you have gotten me through so many cravings already.
This time around, if you will all still hold out your hand to help me after i made the stupid decision to stab you all in the back. I want to truly talk to you all and gather advice on how YOU would have gotten through that situation if it were you. My mistake was not coming to you all last night, and i know that. It will not happen again if you all will still have me.
"....how I would have gotten through that situation?"
I am tired of hearing you pose that question. Only YOU know that answer. We all chose to ignore LIFE by stuffing our faces with poison. We all are still learning how to deal with LIFE w/o that poison. You in ONE moment of selfish, woe-is-me, spite decided that YOU aren't worth it. YOU have to figure out how YOU are going to stay away from that darkness. What are you willing to do to stay QUIT?
It takes nuts davey. Big fucking yak nuts.
Vadge 829. I will not use. Not Today.
*PS - the hands are everywhere.
NOT TODAY.
And I mean it. Cuz I got yak nuts, too.
well if you read through me intro...i got through i fit of rage by putting my size 14 shoe through a wall at work...wasn't the smartest thing i ever did but i paid to have it fixed and i'll have made that money back on the dip i'm not buying anymore. your situation is yours alone....you need to learn how to breath through the anger, go read a book, do some pushups, furiously masterbate, whatever keeps the shit out of your mouth.
...and learn how to keep your word like a man.
yeah what he said more than what i said
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Holy. Fucking. Shit.
I'm not one to blast caving like some of the dudes here, but this...Damn. You're going to blame the MAIL LADY? THE MAIL LADY? You mean the mail lady that was holding your FAKE SHIT that doesn't mean a fucking thing? Goddammit man...stick some fucking tea, coffee, pencil shavings, or whatever the fuck, in your mouth and quit until the mean old mail lady will let you have your shit.
Geezus...the mail lady. You are talking about the lady that brings your mail, right? Just checking.
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Holy. Fucking. Shit.
I'm not one to blast caving like some of the dudes here, but this...Damn. You're going to blame the MAIL LADY? THE MAIL LADY? You mean the mail lady that was holding your FAKE SHIT that doesn't mean a fucking thing? Goddammit man...stick some fucking tea, coffee, pencil shavings, or whatever the fuck, in your mouth and quit until the mean old mail lady will let you have your shit.
Geezus...the mail lady. You are talking about the lady that brings your mail, right? Just checking.
it is a rare thing for me to read something and laugh out loud but that was fucking hilarious.
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This may be unorthodox, but ive been thinking about doing this since i quit for a while now and decided id like to keep a log on here of my days toward victory. A lot of you may remember me as "The Mail Lady Slayer" that caved with a cigarette toward the end of his day 4. I come to you now 8 days back into my quit, haven't touched even a molecule of nicotine during that time. We all know how hard that first 3 days is, its absolute HELL. To this day im still incredibly proud of myself for making it through that, before this, i used to think to myself that i just wasn't a strong enough person to quit. I used to stare at myself in the mirror on occasion and ask myself why in the HELL i was doing this to myself, frantically check my mouth for sores, google mouth cancer and learn about what its first stages look like. Thats not a great way to live, in fear that one day you'll wake up and realize that that time had come, that the dreaded mouth cancer finally caught up to you.
So here i am, 8 days in, i could never have made it past day 1 without all of you at KTC. From the moment I first stepped into live chat with a nicotine patch on and you all told me to light my patches on fire, you have been supporting me through the worst of craves. I still have a long way to go, and one of my biggest tests this weekend. Being a musician we have these things called "concerts" every so often, except instead of it mainly being about the "concert" it usually just ends up being an out of control after party where everyone's soaked in beer and shit gets broken. However im prepared, ive told myself no drinking and no after party, of course my band will be upset but, i think they'd be more upset if their vocalist caved and ended up having half his jaw removed one day.
With that said, i leave you all in suspense. WILL HE MAKE IT?! (yes he will) Or will the dreaded nicotine monster engulf his very innards to control the world! (no it wont)
Stay quit friends, il be checking in tomorrow.
PS any numbers would be greatly appreciated for this weekend im about to face.
ODAAT
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This may be unorthodox, but ive been thinking about doing this since i quit for a while now and decided id like to keep a log on here of my days toward victory. A lot of you may remember me as "The Mail Lady Slayer" that caved with a cigarette toward the end of his day 4. I come to you now 8 days back into my quit, haven't touched even a molecule of nicotine during that time. We all know how hard that first 3 days is, its absolute HELL. To this day im still incredibly proud of myself for making it through that, before this, i used to think to myself that i just wasn't a strong enough person to quit. I used to stare at myself in the mirror on occasion and ask myself why in the HELL i was doing this to myself, frantically check my mouth for sores, google mouth cancer and learn about what its first stages look like. Thats not a great way to live, in fear that one day you'll wake up and realize that that time had come, that the dreaded mouth cancer finally caught up to you.
So here i am, 8 days in, i could never have made it past day 1 without all of you at KTC. From the moment I first stepped into live chat with a nicotine patch on and you all told me to light my patches on fire, you have been supporting me through the worst of craves. I still have a long way to go, and one of my biggest tests this weekend. Being a musician we have these things called "concerts" every so often, except instead of it mainly being about the "concert" it usually just ends up being an out of control after party where everyone's soaked in beer and shit gets broken. However im prepared, ive told myself no drinking and no after party, of course my band will be upset but, i think they'd be more upset if their vocalist caved and ended up having half his jaw removed one day.
With that said, i leave you all in suspense. WILL HE MAKE IT?! (yes he will) Or will the dreaded nicotine monster engulf his very innards to control the world! (no it wont)
Stay quit friends, il be checking in tomorrow.
PS any numbers would be greatly appreciated for this weekend im about to face.
ODAAT
good thoughts...you need to keep your intro stuff all together though...quit on
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You can do this Dave! You'll make it through this weekend and every other day with us by your side, one day at a time. Quit with you today!
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Thank you Diper!
And jay, i was looking for my former post but I believe it was removed? And i never posted an actual intro on Day 1
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bump...that took about 20 seconds to find
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Holy. Fucking. Shit.
I'm not one to blast caving like some of the dudes here, but this...Damn. You're going to blame the MAIL LADY? THE MAIL LADY? You mean the mail lady that was holding your FAKE SHIT that doesn't mean a fucking thing? Goddammit man...stick some fucking tea, coffee, pencil shavings, or whatever the fuck, in your mouth and quit until the mean old mail lady will let you have your shit.
Geezus...the mail lady. You are talking about the lady that brings your mail, right? Just checking.
yes, the Mail Lady. This is an on going thing though, it wasnt just this time, its made me angry multiple times waiting for a package just to get a pink slip. It honestly STILL makes me angry though, okay i get it, youre scared of dogs. Ill tell you what, when i get on a 40 foot ladder in the wind at work to paint your house, IM SCARED SHITLESS, ONE MISTAKE AND IM SERIOUSLY INJURED OR WORSE, but i still do it because its my job! I just dont understand why this woman gets special treatment?
With all that aside, read my 3 questions.
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This may be unorthodox, but ive been thinking about doing this since i quit for a while now and decided id like to keep a log on here of my days toward victory. A lot of you may remember me as "The Mail Lady Slayer" that caved with a cigarette toward the end of his day 4. I come to you now 8 days back into my quit, haven't touched even a molecule of nicotine during that time. We all know how hard that first 3 days is, its absolute HELL. To this day im still incredibly proud of myself for making it through that, before this, i used to think to myself that i just wasn't a strong enough person to quit. I used to stare at myself in the mirror on occasion and ask myself why in the HELL i was doing this to myself, frantically check my mouth for sores, google mouth cancer and learn about what its first stages look like. Thats not a great way to live, in fear that one day you'll wake up and realize that that time had come, that the dreaded mouth cancer finally caught up to you.
So here i am, 8 days in, i could never have made it past day 1 without all of you at KTC. From the moment I first stepped into live chat with a nicotine patch on and you all told me to light my patches on fire, you have been supporting me through the worst of craves. I still have a long way to go, and one of my biggest tests this weekend. Being a musician we have these things called "concerts" every so often, except instead of it mainly being about the "concert" it usually just ends up being an out of control after party where everyone's soaked in beer and shit gets broken. However im prepared, ive told myself no drinking and no after party, of course my band will be upset but, i think they'd be more upset if their vocalist caved and ended up having half his jaw removed one day.
With that said, i leave you all in suspense. WILL HE MAKE IT?! (yes he will) Or will the dreaded nicotine monster engulf his very innards to control the world! (no it wont)
Stay quit friends, il be checking in tomorrow.
PS any numbers would be greatly appreciated for this weekend im about to face.
ODAAT
good thoughts...you need to keep your intro stuff all together though...quit on
Found it Jay, i forgot you could go into your profile and track your posts. Il move this over
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This may be unorthodox, but ive been thinking about doing this since i quit for a while now and decided id like to keep a log on here of my days toward victory. A lot of you may remember me as "The Mail Lady Slayer" that caved with a cigarette toward the end of his day 4. I come to you now 8 days back into my quit, haven't touched even a molecule of nicotine during that time. We all know how hard that first 3 days is, its absolute HELL. To this day im still incredibly proud of myself for making it through that, before this, i used to think to myself that i just wasn't a strong enough person to quit. I used to stare at myself in the mirror on occasion and ask myself why in the HELL i was doing this to myself, frantically check my mouth for sores, google mouth cancer and learn about what its first stages look like. Thats not a great way to live, in fear that one day you'll wake up and realize that that time had come, that the dreaded mouth cancer finally caught up to you.
So here i am, 8 days in, i could never have made it past day 1 without all of you at KTC. From the moment I first stepped into live chat with a nicotine patch on and you all told me to light my patches on fire, you have been supporting me through the worst of craves. I still have a long way to go, and one of my biggest tests this weekend. Being a musician we have these things called "concerts" every so often, except instead of it mainly being about the "concert" it usually just ends up being an out of control after party where everyone's soaked in beer and shit gets broken. However im prepared, ive told myself no drinking and no after party, of course my band will be upset but, i think they'd be more upset if their vocalist caved and ended up having half his jaw removed one day.
With that said, i leave you all in suspense. WILL HE MAKE IT?! (yes he will) Or will the dreaded nicotine monster engulf his very innards to control the world! (no it wont)
Stay quit friends, il be checking in tomorrow.
PS any numbers would be greatly appreciated for this weekend im about to face.
ODAAT
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This may be unorthodox, but ive been thinking about doing this since i quit for a while now and decided id like to keep a log on here of my days toward victory. A lot of you may remember me as "The Mail Lady Slayer" that caved with a cigarette toward the end of his day 4. I come to you now 8 days back into my quit, haven't touched even a molecule of nicotine during that time. We all know how hard that first 3 days is, its absolute HELL. To this day im still incredibly proud of myself for making it through that, before this, i used to think to myself that i just wasn't a strong enough person to quit. I used to stare at myself in the mirror on occasion and ask myself why in the HELL i was doing this to myself, frantically check my mouth for sores, google mouth cancer and learn about what its first stages look like. Thats not a great way to live, in fear that one day you'll wake up and realize that that time had come, that the dreaded mouth cancer finally caught up to you.
So here i am, 8 days in, i could never have made it past day 1 without all of you at KTC. From the moment I first stepped into live chat with a nicotine patch on and you all told me to light my patches on fire, you have been supporting me through the worst of craves. I still have a long way to go, and one of my biggest tests this weekend. Being a musician we have these things called "concerts" every so often, except instead of it mainly being about the "concert" it usually just ends up being an out of control after party where everyone's soaked in beer and shit gets broken. However im prepared, ive told myself no drinking and no after party, of course my band will be upset but, i think they'd be more upset if their vocalist caved and ended up having half his jaw removed one day.
With that said, i leave you all in suspense. WILL HE MAKE IT?! (yes he will) Or will the dreaded nicotine monster engulf his very innards to control the world! (no it wont)
Stay quit friends, il be checking in tomorrow.
PS any numbers would be greatly appreciated for this weekend im about to face.
ODAAT
This is my first time reading this thread. You have some considerable ground to make up, and although you're still here and you're 8 days quit you walked a fine line. Posting roll and lying about it, even for a nano second breaks the key foundation in which this support group is created. Integrity. Good for you, 8 days, but you have a long way to go to earn back our respect and trust.
Because you are on thin ice, watch what you say. Do not condescend me or my KTC brethren ("Being a musician we have these things called "concerts"").
Now, your cliffhanger statement surrounding your quit status won't cause me to lose a moment's sleep, should you need a lifeline before lighting up or pulling a pinch PM me and I'll give you my number. One thing I can see is that you want to be quit and have reached out for support. That is a step in the right direction.
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This may be unorthodox, but ive been thinking about doing this since i quit for a while now and decided id like to keep a log on here of my days toward victory. A lot of you may remember me as "The Mail Lady Slayer" that caved with a cigarette toward the end of his day 4. I come to you now 8 days back into my quit, haven't touched even a molecule of nicotine during that time. We all know how hard that first 3 days is, its absolute HELL. To this day im still incredibly proud of myself for making it through that, before this, i used to think to myself that i just wasn't a strong enough person to quit. I used to stare at myself in the mirror on occasion and ask myself why in the HELL i was doing this to myself, frantically check my mouth for sores, google mouth cancer and learn about what its first stages look like. Thats not a great way to live, in fear that one day you'll wake up and realize that that time had come, that the dreaded mouth cancer finally caught up to you.
So here i am, 8 days in, i could never have made it past day 1 without all of you at KTC. From the moment I first stepped into live chat with a nicotine patch on and you all told me to light my patches on fire, you have been supporting me through the worst of craves. I still have a long way to go, and one of my biggest tests this weekend. Being a musician we have these things called "concerts" every so often, except instead of it mainly being about the "concert" it usually just ends up being an out of control after party where everyone's soaked in beer and shit gets broken. However im prepared, ive told myself no drinking and no after party, of course my band will be upset but, i think they'd be more upset if their vocalist caved and ended up having half his jaw removed one day.
With that said, i leave you all in suspense. WILL HE MAKE IT?! (yes he will) Or will the dreaded nicotine monster engulf his very innards to control the world! (no it wont)
Stay quit friends, il be checking in tomorrow.
PS any numbers would be greatly appreciated for this weekend im about to face.
ODAAT
David, I was going to pass without comment. But I do have 1 piece of advice.
Your words remain addict defeatist. You sound like you don't believe you can be quit. But that simply isn't true. You can and will keep your promise today, no maybe, no try. There is no victory to be stopped for 3 days or 30 days or 300 days if you fail and cave tomorrow. That is a stop, a quit has no end. Victory is winning every day. Get your mind right, you CAN win every day. But first you got to want it, then you have to build a quit (accountability, honesty, support) that helps you grow from almost expecting yourself to fail to knowing you will win today and every day.
Finally, if you now have a quit plan, post it in your intro. It can help other quitters help you stay accountable and it can help remind you why you need to win (keep your promise) today.
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This may be unorthodox, but ive been thinking about doing this since i quit for a while now and decided id like to keep a log on here of my days toward victory. A lot of you may remember me as "The Mail Lady Slayer" that caved with a cigarette toward the end of his day 4. I come to you now 8 days back into my quit, haven't touched even a molecule of nicotine during that time. We all know how hard that first 3 days is, its absolute HELL. To this day im still incredibly proud of myself for making it through that, before this, i used to think to myself that i just wasn't a strong enough person to quit. I used to stare at myself in the mirror on occasion and ask myself why in the HELL i was doing this to myself, frantically check my mouth for sores, google mouth cancer and learn about what its first stages look like. Thats not a great way to live, in fear that one day you'll wake up and realize that that time had come, that the dreaded mouth cancer finally caught up to you.
So here i am, 8 days in, i could never have made it past day 1 without all of you at KTC. From the moment I first stepped into live chat with a nicotine patch on and you all told me to light my patches on fire, you have been supporting me through the worst of craves. I still have a long way to go, and one of my biggest tests this weekend. Being a musician we have these things called "concerts" every so often, except instead of it mainly being about the "concert" it usually just ends up being an out of control after party where everyone's soaked in beer and shit gets broken. However im prepared, ive told myself no drinking and no after party, of course my band will be upset but, i think they'd be more upset if their vocalist caved and ended up having half his jaw removed one day.
With that said, i leave you all in suspense. WILL HE MAKE IT?! (yes he will) Or will the dreaded nicotine monster engulf his very innards to control the world! (no it wont)
Stay quit friends, il be checking in tomorrow.
PS any numbers would be greatly appreciated for this weekend im about to face.
ODAAT
This is my first time reading this thread. You have some considerable ground to make up, and although you're still here and you're 8 days quit you walked a fine line. Posting roll and lying about it, even for a nano second breaks the key foundation in which this support group is created. Integrity. Good for you, 8 days, but you have a long way to go to earn back our respect and trust.
Because you are on thin ice, watch what you say. Do not condescend me or my KTC brethren ("Being a musician we have these things called "concerts"").
Now, your cliffhanger statement surrounding your quit status won't cause me to lose a moment's sleep, should you need a lifeline before lighting up or pulling a pinch PM me and I'll give you my number. One thing I can see is that you want to be quit and have reached out for support. That is a step in the right direction.
In what way was that statement condescending? Sorry if you took any offense, but i believe you are seeing things that arnt there.
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I have just caught up on this thread. This may have caused me to miss the most important explanation if it is indeed true. I am also not going to go back 2 weeks to check roll and I will assume that the bad ass quitters are right when they say you caved on day four and then came back and posted day five but erased it? You need to answer this question. Did you do this? If so, then why? Please answer the question please.
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Hmmm...that would certainly be a shady move. I thought they meant he posted roll on day 4 only to cave later that day and then stopped posting roll.
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This weekend, i decided to stick around for the after party instead of driving 3.5 hours home after my show. I prepared myself all week for what i knew was going to be a big trigger. That night during the party, there was a girl that ran out of smokes, i watched as she made the transformation from satisfied nic addict to Raging Nicotine Hulk and then over the course of an hour, desperation sunk in and she frantically began looking for any source of nicotine she could find. I watched her and thought to myself immediately "Im so glad im not controlled by that bullshit anymore"
Im glad i stayed, that whole lesson did wonders for my confidence which was something i was missing this whole time. However, no matter how confident i am in my quit, i made a promise to myself not to let my guard down. I also owe my texting buddies gratitude for being there when i need them, and i plan on paying it forward someday.
Day 11
Daviddim
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This weekend, i decided to stick around for the after party instead of driving 3.5 hours home after my show. I prepared myself all week for what i knew was going to be a big trigger. That night during the party, there was a girl that ran out of smokes, i watched as she made the transformation from satisfied nic addict to Raging Nicotine Hulk and then over the course of an hour, desperation sunk in and she frantically began looking for any source of nicotine she could find. I watched her and thought to myself immediately "Im so glad im not controlled by that bullshit anymore"
Im glad i stayed, that whole lesson did wonders for my confidence which was something i was missing this whole time. However, no matter how confident i am in my quit, i made a promise to myself not to let my guard down. I also owe my texting buddies gratitude for being there when i need them, and i plan on paying it forward someday.
Day 11
Daviddim
Right on. You are now seeing the world through the eyes of a quitter. Looks different doesn't it? Good job.
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I have just caught up on this thread. This may have caused me to miss the most important explanation if it is indeed true. I am also not going to go back 2 weeks to check roll and I will assume that the bad ass quitters are right when they say you caved on day four and then came back and posted day five but erased it? You need to answer this question. Did you do this? If so, then why? Please answer the question please.
Yes, i did post the next day. The first week through this quit idk why i did alot of things i did. I dont know why I considered lying, i never thought of myself as the kind of person that would do something like that. Nicotine has been causing me to lie to people including myself about my addiction for years, and the fact that i tried to blame my cave on something other than my own damn self?! Everytime i think about it im fucking ashamed. It comes down to the fact that i was not prepared mentally, and when i did cave my brain tried to justify lying and thinking "it was just one cigarette." As an addict i realized (however not quickly enough) How STUPID of a rationalization that was and im sorry, truly. I realize i have alot of work to do to gain back my months confidence, but im STILL HERE, and I still WANT TO LIVE.
Day 11
Daviddim
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I have just caught up on this thread. This may have caused me to miss the most important explanation if it is indeed true. I am also not going to go back 2 weeks to check roll and I will assume that the bad ass quitters are right when they say you caved on day four and then came back and posted day five but erased it? You need to answer this question. Did you do this? If so, then why? Please answer the question please.
Yes, i did post the next day. The first week through this quit idk why i did alot of things i did. I dont know why I considered lying, i never thought of myself as the kind of person that would do something like that. Nicotine has been causing me to lie to people including myself about my addiction for years, and the fact that i tried to blame my cave on something other than my own damn self?! Everytime i think about it im fucking ashamed. It comes down to the fact that i was not prepared mentally, and when i did cave my brain tried to justify lying and thinking "it was just one cigarette." As an addict i realized (however not quickly enough) How STUPID of a rationalization that was and im sorry, truly. I realize i have alot of work to do to gain back my months confidence, but im STILL HERE, and I still WANT TO LIVE.
Day 11
Daviddim
You're beginning to sound like a real bad ass quitter.
I quit with you, Daviddim!
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I have just caught up on this thread. This may have caused me to miss the most important explanation if it is indeed true. I am also not going to go back 2 weeks to check roll and I will assume that the bad ass quitters are right when they say you caved on day four and then came back and posted day five but erased it? You need to answer this question. Did you do this? If so, then why? Please answer the question please.
Yes, i did post the next day. The first week through this quit idk why i did alot of things i did. I dont know why I considered lying, i never thought of myself as the kind of person that would do something like that. Nicotine has been causing me to lie to people including myself about my addiction for years, and the fact that i tried to blame my cave on something other than my own damn self?! Everytime i think about it im fucking ashamed. It comes down to the fact that i was not prepared mentally, and when i did cave my brain tried to justify lying and thinking "it was just one cigarette." As an addict i realized (however not quickly enough) How STUPID of a rationalization that was and im sorry, truly. I realize i have alot of work to do to gain back my months confidence, but im STILL HERE, and I still WANT TO LIVE.
Day 11
Daviddim
I'm one of the new guys. Been down that road, and it breeds an ease of slipping that is HARD to overcome. Watch yourself, punish yourself severely for even THINKING about caving, do whatever you have to do to get through the crave. I've used in every form, primarily dip, but I've found regular old gum helps the urge (but not the crave), and makes it slightly easier to make it through. I'll be honest with you - this shit sucks, and for me it is a painful game I win by stacking slight advantages in my favor. I guess it's kinda a game of inches.
Hard talk - you lied to your group. Yeah, I empathize with you, but that is some bullshit. You know how I get through the day? I read the roll. THere's 2 of us on there right now - I know that 2TQ is right there with me. I refuse to quit because I know that 2TQ hasn't caved, and all the others made it past this stage. You're at day 11, according to your post - you better keep adding +1's to that, cuz I'm counting on you.
There's support here, hit up your group or PM me. QFL dude
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So once again, last night I was out with some friends. LITERALLY every one of them smoked or dipped, it was tough, of course I wanted one. No way i was actually going to put one of those turds in my mouth again though. Ive come to far having reached my 2 week mark today, and ive worked to hard through that first week sober to go back now or ever. Watched someone spend 7.50 on a pack of smokes at the bar last night and rolled my eyes. Yah good job, you just spent an hours pay on chemicals to rot your insides with. With that said, im proud of myself I finally have the nic bitch behind bars, she might break free one day, but this time il be prepared for her with a pair of handcuffs and a stun baton and im puttin her slutty ass back in jail!
Slay some craves!
ODAAT
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So once again, last night I was out with some friends. LITERALLY every one of them smoked or dipped, it was tough, of course I wanted one. No way i was actually going to put one of those turds in my mouth again though. Ive come to far having reached my 2 week mark today, and ive worked to hard through that first week sober to go back now or ever. Watched someone spend 7.50 on a pack of smokes at the bar last night and rolled my eyes. Yah good job, you just spent an hours pay on chemicals to rot your insides with. With that said, im proud of myself I finally have the nic bitch behind bars, she might break free one day, but this time il be prepared for her with a pair of handcuffs and a stun baton and im puttin her slutty ass back in jail!
Slay some craves!
ODAAT
Nice work! thanks for posting too! Keep it up, stay strong and alert to nicbitch's tricks, she'll keep throwing you curves.
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You are begining to get it David... Congrats.. As I read thru your into post, In the beginning I read alot of blaming others for your actions, your addition... I was starting to get prepped to write you a slashing, swift kick in the balls post here... To tell you to grow up, and control yourself... But... Then I read on.... I think you are getting it.
We are all addicts... We always will be addicts, but if we lived with excuses like "nicotine made me this and that" none of us would ever be able to quit...
I think you will be ok David... I quit with you bro!
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You are begining to get it David... Congrats.. As I read thru your into post, In the beginning I read alot of blaming others for your actions, your addition... I was starting to get prepped to write you a slashing, swift kick in the balls post here... To tell you to grow up, and control yourself... But... Then I read on.... I think you are getting it.
We are all addicts... We always will be addicts, but if we lived with excuses like "nicotine made me this and that" none of us would ever be able to quit...
I think you will be ok David... I quit with you bro!
Thanks shorthorn!
Its great to hear those words considering the bashing ive received over the last 2 weeks.
I QLF with you!
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STORY TIME!!!
Today i cleaned my car really well. Looked under the seat and what do i find staring back at me? ONLY ONE, CRISP, looked FRESH OUT OF THE PACK cigarette. Obviously just like every addict on planet earth i was trying to give myself a reason to smoke just one. I stared at that cigarette the entire 2 hour drive home from Monterey CA, when i pulled into my driveway, the first thing i did was grab that cigarette take it to the trash, and CRUMBLE IT INTO A MILLION TINY PIECES. Never, i repeat NEVER have just one, it doesnt fuckin work like that, once an addict always an addict. If youre not quite there yet and youre reading this, learn to HATE EVERYTHING that contains even a drop of nicotine and QUIT LIKE A MOFO
Stay Quit Friends!
Stay strong with me!
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STORY TIME!!!
Today i cleaned my car really well. Looked under the seat and what do i find staring back at me? ONLY ONE, CRISP, looked FRESH OUT OF THE PACK cigarette. Obviously just like every addict on planet earth i was trying to give myself a reason to smoke just one. I stared at that cigarette the entire 2 hour drive home from Monterey CA, when i pulled into my driveway, the first thing i did was grab that cigarette take it to the trash, and CRUMBLE IT INTO A MILLION TINY PIECES. Never, i repeat NEVER have just one, it doesnt fuckin work like that, once an addict always an addict. If youre not quite there yet and youre reading this, learn to HATE EVERYTHING that contains even a drop of nicotine and QUIT LIKE A MOFO
Stay Quit Friends!
Stay strong with me!
Nicotine sucks.
Quitting doesn't.
Good job destroing the cig (should you hit this bump again, do it faster), and Stay quit
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STORY TIME!!!
Today i cleaned my car really well. Looked under the seat and what do i find staring back at me? ONLY ONE, CRISP, looked FRESH OUT OF THE PACK cigarette. Obviously just like every addict on planet earth i was trying to give myself a reason to smoke just one. I stared at that cigarette the entire 2 hour drive home from Monterey CA, when i pulled into my driveway, the first thing i did was grab that cigarette take it to the trash, and CRUMBLE IT INTO A MILLION TINY PIECES. Never, i repeat NEVER have just one, it doesnt fuckin work like that, once an addict always an addict. If youre not quite there yet and youre reading this, learn to HATE EVERYTHING that contains even a drop of nicotine and QUIT LIKE A MOFO
Stay Quit Friends!
Stay strong with me!
Nicotine sucks.
Quitting doesn't.
Good job destroing the cig (should you hit this bump again, do it faster), and Stay quit
I'm worried about two things: you stared at a cigarette for two straight hours, and you did it while driving?
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STORY TIME!!!
Today i cleaned my car really well. Looked under the seat and what do i find staring back at me? ONLY ONE, CRISP, looked FRESH OUT OF THE PACK cigarette. Obviously just like every addict on planet earth i was trying to give myself a reason to smoke just one. I stared at that cigarette the entire 2 hour drive home from Monterey CA, when i pulled into my driveway, the first thing i did was grab that cigarette take it to the trash, and CRUMBLE IT INTO A MILLION TINY PIECES. Never, i repeat NEVER have just one, it doesnt fuckin work like that, once an addict always an addict. If youre not quite there yet and youre reading this, learn to HATE EVERYTHING that contains even a drop of nicotine and QUIT LIKE A MOFO
Stay Quit Friends!
Stay strong with me!
Nicotine sucks.
Quitting doesn't.
Good job destroing the cig (should you hit this bump again, do it faster), and Stay quit
I'm worried about two things: you stared at a cigarette for two straight hours, and you did it while driving?
I'm with Grizz... Why didn't you just crush it, piss on it right then and there, and be done with it?
Your story is bs. Why keep it around? You're saying the right thing but I don't feel a real distance from you and your addiction.
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STORY TIME!!!
Today i cleaned my car really well. Looked under the seat and what do i find staring back at me? ONLY ONE, CRISP, looked FRESH OUT OF THE PACK cigarette. Obviously just like every addict on planet earth i was trying to give myself a reason to smoke just one. I stared at that cigarette the entire 2 hour drive home from Monterey CA, when i pulled into my driveway, the first thing i did was grab that cigarette take it to the trash, and CRUMBLE IT INTO A MILLION TINY PIECES. Never, i repeat NEVER have just one, it doesnt fuckin work like that, once an addict always an addict. If youre not quite there yet and youre reading this, learn to HATE EVERYTHING that contains even a drop of nicotine and QUIT LIKE A MOFO
Stay Quit Friends!
Stay strong with me!
Nicotine sucks.
Quitting doesn't.
Good job destroing the cig (should you hit this bump again, do it faster), and Stay quit
I'm worried about two things: you stared at a cigarette for two straight hours, and you did it while driving?
It was just poetic to me. Multiple times ive run into a survivor of the purge. Idk i just wasnt that intimidated by it, i wanted it there so i could scold it and talk shit to it, like everytime i go into the store and see a can, that conversation you have. I like that conversation.
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STORY TIME!!!
Today i cleaned my car really well. Looked under the seat and what do i find staring back at me? ONLY ONE, CRISP, looked FRESH OUT OF THE PACK cigarette. Obviously just like every addict on planet earth i was trying to give myself a reason to smoke just one. I stared at that cigarette the entire 2 hour drive home from Monterey CA, when i pulled into my driveway, the first thing i did was grab that cigarette take it to the trash, and CRUMBLE IT INTO A MILLION TINY PIECES. Never, i repeat NEVER have just one, it doesnt fuckin work like that, once an addict always an addict. If youre not quite there yet and youre reading this, learn to HATE EVERYTHING that contains even a drop of nicotine and QUIT LIKE A MOFO
Stay Quit Friends!
Stay strong with me!
Nicotine sucks.
Quitting doesn't.
Good job destroing the cig (should you hit this bump again, do it faster), and Stay quit
I'm worried about two things: you stared at a cigarette for two straight hours, and you did it while driving?
It was just poetic to me. Multiple times ive run into a survivor of the purge. Idk i just wasnt that intimidated by it, i wanted it there so i could scold it and talk shit to it, like everytime i go into the store and see a can, that conversation you have. I like that conversation.
Nice!! Give it Hell.
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STORY TIME!!!
Today i cleaned my car really well. Looked under the seat and what do i find staring back at me? ONLY ONE, CRISP, looked FRESH OUT OF THE PACK cigarette. Obviously just like every addict on planet earth i was trying to give myself a reason to smoke just one. I stared at that cigarette the entire 2 hour drive home from Monterey CA, when i pulled into my driveway, the first thing i did was grab that cigarette take it to the trash, and CRUMBLE IT INTO A MILLION TINY PIECES. Never, i repeat NEVER have just one, it doesnt fuckin work like that, once an addict always an addict. If youre not quite there yet and youre reading this, learn to HATE EVERYTHING that contains even a drop of nicotine and QUIT LIKE A MOFO
Stay Quit Friends!
Stay strong with me!
Nicotine sucks.
Quitting doesn't.
Good job destroing the cig (should you hit this bump again, do it faster), and Stay quit
I'm worried about two things: you stared at a cigarette for two straight hours, and you did it while driving?
It was just poetic to me. Multiple times ive run into a survivor of the purge. Idk i just wasnt that intimidated by it, i wanted it there so i could scold it and talk shit to it, like everytime i go into the store and see a can, that conversation you have. I like that conversation.
Nice!! Give it Hell.
Man, this is a good story. My heart sank for a minute when I saw this page at the top with the "Anger brought me back to Day 1" title. You are coming up on HOF and I thought oh shit noooooooo! Then I get to the bottom of the page and read your post from the other day. Dude, I'm really proud of you. You've come such a long way from being that whiny little !@#$!$ that was complaining about the mail lady. You've been rock solid in your quit. Not sure if I would recommend taking a 2 hour drive with a cig sitting next to you, but I also see how you used it. We do some crazy shit to stay quit and if you had to talk to and scold the cigarette on your drive, well then do what you need to do. Another tool in the arsenal I guess. But mostly I just want to say, way to go man. proud as hell of you.
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Congrats on the HOF brother! Welcome aboard!!! 'party2' 'shots'
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Congrats on the HOF brother! Welcome aboard!!! 'party2' 'shots'
Congrats, David. Well done!
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Been a while David ... need an update from you in here!!
Congrats on the 2nd floor bud! Proud as hell to be quitting with you EDD in July! Stick around, we're just getting warmed up!
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Let me tell you all a story about a little girl named David that came on this site wearing a patch and a bad attitude 200 days ago. A girl that blamed their mistakes and weaknesses on unsuspecting people like the mail lady, or a teller at the bank, or that midget that's sitting in the corner that just wouldn't stop staring. All that aside, that little girl grew up one day and became a man. How? Do you ask? How does one small little girl grow a 2 inch dinger(fully erect mind you). Il tell you how, I'd like to pull a barry bonds on all of you and say I DID THIS, I DONT NEED ANY OF YOU, but that's a sack of fucking slutty lies. I owe every day to you guys! I can't thank you all enough for having my back for 200 days and for just being fucking bad ass quitters. Looking forward to the many days to come of celebratory quit days with my DD destroyers, but for now ODAAT
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Nice work on the 2nd level David!
E D D
See you on roll tomorrow!
wolfe
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Nice work on the 2nd level David!
E D D
See you on roll tomorrow!
wolfe
Gratz David!
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AWESOME!
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Let me tell you all a story about a little girl named David that came on this site wearing a patch and a bad attitude 200 days ago. A girl that blamed their mistakes and weaknesses on unsuspecting people like the mail lady, or a teller at the bank, or that midget that's sitting in the corner that just wouldn't stop staring. All that aside, that little girl grew up one day and became a man. How? Do you ask? How does one small little girl grow a 2 inch dinger(fully erect mind you). Il tell you how, I'd like to pull a barry bonds on all of you and say I DID THIS, I DONT NEED ANY OF YOU, but that's a sack of fucking slutty lies. I owe every day to you guys! I can't thank you all enough for having my back for 200 days and for just being fucking bad ass quitters. Looking forward to the many days to come of celebratory quit days with my DD destroyers, but for now ODAAT
that's some strong quit talk there david. you are what makes me proud to be a part of this group of misfit toys called july 14. DD strong with you till the end. QLF with you today.
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Let me tell you all a story about a little girl named David that came on this site wearing a patch and a bad attitude 200 days ago. A girl that blamed their mistakes and weaknesses on unsuspecting people like the mail lady, or a teller at the bank, or that midget that's sitting in the corner that just wouldn't stop staring. All that aside, that little girl grew up one day and became a man. How? Do you ask? How does one small little girl grow a 2 inch dinger(fully erect mind you). Il tell you how, I'd like to pull a barry bonds on all of you and say I DID THIS, I DONT NEED ANY OF YOU, but that's a sack of fucking slutty lies. I owe every day to you guys! I can't thank you all enough for having my back for 200 days and for just being fucking bad ass quitters. Looking forward to the many days to come of celebratory quit days with my DD destroyers, but for now ODAAT
that's some strong quit talk there david. you are what makes me proud to be a part of this group of misfit toys called july 14. DD strong with you till the end. QLF with you today.
That's awesome! Congrats on 200
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I was once a badass quitter, I was about 1200 days free. I got loose with roll, my group ditched me, it took me a while but I eventually caved. I’m now a year in and I’m more addicted than I’ve ever been. Stopped for 30 days and failed. I regret all of it, and I want to get my life back on track and ditch this piece of shit in my mouth. I know I’ll probably get reamed, but I’m here and I want to be done with this!
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I was once a badass quitter, I was about 1200 days free. I got loose with roll, my group ditched me, it took me a while but I eventually caved. I’m now a year in and I’m more addicted than I’ve ever been. Stopped for 30 days and failed. I regret all of it, and I want to get my life back on track and ditch this piece of shit in my mouth. I know I’ll probably get reamed, but I’m here and I want to be done with this!
Man it's people like you that keep me posting my promise EDD. And I have to say, your group "ditching you" is possibly one of the lamest excuses for YOUR failure. YOU decided to throw away 1200 days of freedom. YOU put the cat shit into your face. There are countless other groups here at KTC that would have adopted you per se and let you post with them.
To start out, you need to answer the three questions. You need to dig deep and put some honest thought into these since they are for you more than us. We can learn from your mistakes but ultimately you need to get to the bottom of why slavery to a dead weed in a plastic can was better than freedom.
1.) What happened?
2.) Why did it happen?
3.) What are you going to do differently this time?
Post these answers into your new May 2020 group as well as your old group. I don't care that no one is there anymore. Maybe one of your old group people will come back thinking about caving, see your failure and think twice.
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I’m not making an excuse, I know full well it was my decision to cave and get loose on roll. I should have reached out to admins to move me to a new group. Instead I thought I could go without one, Which is exactly where I went wrong. I will be posting in both groups as soon as I can find them. Thanks for the reply.
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Well, I don’t think a simple “told you so” is guna do it. It’s been about 800 days since I was dropped from this group. It took me a while but eventually I caved. I’ve thought about coming back for to long. Everytime I put a turd in my lip the past year it sent an almost electric shock to my brain thinking about how far down the shit hole of addiction I’ve sunk. Back again, hoping you all will have mercy on me. I wana apologize to all of you first off, I regret a lot of things but mostly I regret not listening to the guidance of my fellow quitters, no matter how harsh it sounded.
Here’s how it happened, after leaving this site, I stayed quit for about 6 more months. I inspired my co workers and friends trying to quit, so that I could fill this gaping hole of accountability that I lost for myself and invest in other people. None of them survived, I watched my co workers slip back into addiction one by one and got to watch how easy it was to throw away so much progress. The stress of my new PM job and the lack of respect for my own well being kept growing like an infectious virus. It got heavier and heavier to hold and I lost sight of why I was quit.
THIS IS WHY THIS SITE WORKS.... which is also something I lost sight of. We reminded each other every day of the struggle we went through, why we hated it so much, and why we were so happy to be over it. The 1200 days I spent quit with July 2014 were the strongest years of my life. The empowerment it brings you to know you’re in the small percentage of people that have lifted themselves out of the shithole of addiction.
I want back on this train, and when I’m back I’m going to stay here until I either die, or the planet expires, whichever comes first. If I have an issue, I need to reach out and look for a solution. Treat roll as if it’s sacred EVERY GOD DAMN DAY. Watching that number grow is what’s keeping you alive, it’s like your life support. Pull the plug and you’ll end up like me, crawling back desperately looking for help.
DONT BE LIKE ME
BE A BADASS QUITTER
I was once a badass quitter, I was about 1200 days free. I got loose with roll, my group ditched me, it took me a while but I eventually caved. I’m now a year in and I’m more addicted than I’ve ever been. Stopped for 30 days and failed. I regret all of it, and I want to get my life back on track and ditch this piece of shit in my mouth. I know I’ll probably get reamed, but I’m here and I want to be done with this!
Man it's people like you that keep me posting my promise EDD. And I have to say, your group "ditching you" is possibly one of the lamest excuses for YOUR failure. YOU decided to throw away 1200 days of freedom. YOU put the cat shit into your face. There are countless other groups here at KTC that would have adopted you per se and let you post with them.
To start out, you need to answer the three questions. You need to dig deep and put some honest thought into these since they are for you more than us. We can learn from your mistakes but ultimately you need to get to the bottom of why slavery to a dead weed in a plastic can was better than freedom.
1.) What happened?
2.) Why did it happen?
3.) What are you going to do differently this time?
Post these answers into your new May 2020 group as well as your old group. I don't care that no one is there anymore. Maybe one of your old group people will come back thinking about caving, see your failure and think twice.
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Well, I don’t think a simple “told you so” is guna do it. It’s been about 800 days since I was dropped from this group. It took me a while but eventually I caved. I’ve thought about coming back for to long. Everytime I put a turd in my lip the past year it sent an almost electric shock to my brain thinking about how far down the shit hole of addiction I’ve sunk. Back again, hoping you all will have mercy on me. I wana apologize to all of you first off, I regret a lot of things but mostly I regret not listening to the guidance of my fellow quitters, no matter how harsh it sounded.
Here’s how it happened, after leaving this site, I stayed quit for about 6 more months. I inspired my co workers and friends trying to quit, so that I could fill this gaping hole of accountability that I lost for myself and invest in other people. None of them survived, I watched my co workers slip back into addiction one by one and got to watch how easy it was to throw away so much progress. The stress of my new PM job and the lack of respect for my own well being kept growing like an infectious virus. It got heavier and heavier to hold and I lost sight of why I was quit.
THIS IS WHY THIS SITE WORKS.... which is also something I lost sight of. We reminded each other every day of the struggle we went through, why we hated it so much, and why we were so happy to be over it. The 1200 days I spent quit with July 2014 were the strongest years of my life. The empowerment it brings you to know you’re in the small percentage of people that have lifted themselves out of the shithole of addiction.
I want back on this train, and when I’m back I’m going to stay here until I either die, or the planet expires, whichever comes first. If I have an issue, I need to reach out and look for a solution. Treat roll as if it’s sacred EVERY GOD DAMN DAY. Watching that number grow is what’s keeping you alive, it’s like your life support. Pull the plug and you’ll end up like me, crawling back desperately looking for help.
DONT BE LIKE ME
BE A BADASS QUITTER
I was once a badass quitter, I was about 1200 days free. I got loose with roll, my group ditched me, it took me a while but I eventually caved. I’m now a year in and I’m more addicted than I’ve ever been. Stopped for 30 days and failed. I regret all of it, and I want to get my life back on track and ditch this piece of shit in my mouth. I know I’ll probably get reamed, but I’m here and I want to be done with this!
Man it's people like you that keep me posting my promise EDD. And I have to say, your group "ditching you" is possibly one of the lamest excuses for YOUR failure. YOU decided to throw away 1200 days of freedom. YOU put the cat shit into your face. There are countless other groups here at KTC that would have adopted you per se and let you post with them.
To start out, you need to answer the three questions. You need to dig deep and put some honest thought into these since they are for you more than us. We can learn from your mistakes but ultimately you need to get to the bottom of why slavery to a dead weed in a plastic can was better than freedom.
1.) What happened?
2.) Why did it happen?
3.) What are you going to do differently this time?
Post these answers into your new May 2020 group as well as your old group. I don't care that no one is there anymore. Maybe one of your old group people will come back thinking about caving, see your failure and think twice.
His old group is there, and is really strong, still. Many guys there post roll everyday, yes, they are hard core, but seeing this, glad they are because it's saving them. quit hard Daviddim.
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@Daviddim (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=10040) you obviously know the drill here. You know nothing you say will work. That’s the whole point, so you realize that there is NEVER an excuse for caving. I do believe in 2nd chances. Good Lord knows I’ve been given many. But with 2nd chances come double the work and effort on your part to regain the trust you just shattered. I’d advise you to become heavily involved and step up to be a leader. Take your beating and move on. I’m glad you came back and realize how pathetic your move was. Keep your head up and work hard. PM me if want extra accountability.
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I’m not making an excuse, I know full well it was my decision to cave and get loose on roll. I should have reached out to admins to move me to a new group. Instead I thought I could go without one, Which is exactly where I went wrong. I will be posting in both groups as soon as I can find them. Thanks for the reply.
Apparently you think the Admins would've located a group for you where posting WASN'T a priority? You're the biggest fucking victim I've ever had the displeasure of interacting with.
For anyone else reading this travesty ... Daviddimwit was in the July '14 DD's. He received a lot of text reminders from me early on in our quits to get on roll. After a while, I refused to quit FOR him, and stopped pinging him. You'll all get there at some point ... there's a threshold for holding a quitter's hand where after a while it appears you're almost forcing him to quit and stay accountable. After a while, his missing roll multiple times progressed into a much more disgusted tone from the group ... and me especially. This is called HOLDING SOMEONE ACCOUNTABLE for their actions, something we all signed up for. Instead of flipping the switch and righting his ship ... he got pissy. "I should have reached out to admins to move me to a new group" ... wow, so much blame deflecting in one sentence.
We all see where getting pissy and playing the victim got Daviddimwit. Yet, he continues to do so. He actually still believes that due to the actions of a select few he was "forced" to leave the site. Until he unfucks his head, he's destined to repeat history.
YOU decided to make that drive to the convenience store. YOU decided to ask for a tin. YOU decided to go ahead and pay for that tin. YOU decided to lay a fingernail to it, and pop the lid. YOU decided to throw in a fucking disgusting cat turd. YOU decided to continue to do so for what ... near two more years?? All of those decisions were made because a meanie did exactly what they had did from day one, which was hold your ass accountable? It all happened because you "should've asked admins" to move you to a group where dudes didn't require you were on roll?
Get lost with that shit. I truly hope this time around isn't another stoppage for you ... but you're destined for it if you don't flip your script, and NOW.
Own your shit, own your quit ... it's the only thing that works. 1/2-assed attempts will always get 1/2-ass results.
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@Daviddim (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=10040) sounds like you have an accountability issue. You are an addict. You fucked up. You caved. You refused the help of others. Until you man up, own, learn from it, you will fail again. When you come to terms with things go post roll and earn some respect back.
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I’m not making an excuse, I know full well it was my decision to cave and get loose on roll. I should have reached out to admins to move me to a new group. Instead I thought I could go without one, Which is exactly where I went wrong. I will be posting in both groups as soon as I can find them. Thanks for the reply.
Apparently you think the Admins would've located a group for you where posting WASN'T a priority? You're the biggest fucking victim I've ever had the displeasure of interacting with.
For anyone else reading this travesty ... Daviddimwit was in the July '14 DD's. He received a lot of text reminders from me early on in our quits to get on roll. After a while, I refused to quit FOR him, and stopped pinging him. You'll all get there at some point ... there's a threshold for holding a quitter's hand where after a while it appears you're almost forcing him to quit and stay accountable. After a while, his missing roll multiple times progressed into a much more disgusted tone from the group ... and me especially. This is called HOLDING SOMEONE ACCOUNTABLE for their actions, something we all signed up for. Instead of flipping the switch and righting his ship ... he got pissy. "I should have reached out to admins to move me to a new group" ... wow, so much blame deflecting in one sentence.
We all see where getting pissy and playing the victim got Daviddimwit. Yet, he continues to do so. He actually still believes that due to the actions of a select few he was "forced" to leave the site. Until he unfucks his head, he's destined to repeat history.
YOU decided to make that drive to the convenience store. YOU decided to ask for a tin. YOU decided to go ahead and pay for that tin. YOU decided to lay a fingernail to it, and pop the lid. YOU decided to throw in a fucking disgusting cat turd. YOU decided to continue to do so for what ... near two more years?? All of those decisions were made because a meanie did exactly what they had did from day one, which was hold your ass accountable? It all happened because you "should've asked admins" to move you to a group where dudes didn't require you were on roll?
Get lost with that shit. I truly hope this time around isn't another stoppage for you ... but you're destined for it if you don't flip your script, and NOW.
Own your shit, own your quit ... it's the only thing that works. 1/2-assed attempts will always get 1/2-ass results.
Cool twist on my own cave story smedsy, you’re still a piece of shit human being, you always will be. Never in any of my stories did I say it was any of your faults that I caved, so stop putting your own shit in my cave story. The reason I wrote it up like it is, is if someone is dealing with an immature god complex trash person “leader” like you on this site they can learn from my mistake and not let it discourage them from using this site, because I’m the example of what happens. We get weak when we don’t have accountability, I had no one to reach out to when I was starting to sink. I FUCKED UP! I FUCKIN KNOW I FUCKED UP, and I wrote the story of how I fucked up, and I’ll tell it the same every time.
Actually I’ll reword this part “I was unhappy with SMEDS! He loved to trash other people to build up his quit instead of treat people with respect and inspire through actual effective leadership qualities, tough love is not telling someone they have a pussy and pink panties when they’re 1200 days quit.” Your leadership style is not effective for me, and unless you wana change it, stay far away from my quit.
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@Daviddim (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=10040) sounds like you have an accountability issue. You are an addict. You fucked up. You caved. You refused the help of others. Until you man up, own, learn from it, you will fail again. When you come to terms with things go post roll and earn some respect back.
I take full responsibility for my cave, I know I fucked up and I know how, in that story I’m not blaming my old group whatsoever for anything. I’m involving that part of the story because there’s a lot of people on this website that don’t react well to people like Smeds and they want to leave this site because of it. I’m telling that part of the story because I am what happens when you no longer have accountability for your quit, eventually the nic monster is guna come knocking at your tonsil door and try to fuck you in the mouth, you’ll either be strong enough, or you’ll be just drunk enough to give no fucks, and down the rabbit hole we go, we all know how that one ends.
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@Daviddim (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=10040) sounds like you have an accountability issue. You are an addict. You fucked up. You caved. You refused the help of others. Until you man up, own, learn from it, you will fail again. When you come to terms with things go post roll and earn some respect back.
I take full responsibility for my cave, I know I fucked up and I know how, in that story I’m not blaming my old group whatsoever for anything. I’m involving that part of the story because there’s a lot of people on this website that don’t react well to people like Smeds and they want to leave this site because of it. I’m telling that part of the story because I am what happens when you no longer have accountability for your quit, eventually the nic monster is guna come knocking at your tonsil door and try to fuck you in the mouth, you’ll either be strong enough, or you’ll be just drunk enough to give no fucks, and down the rabbit hole we go, we all know how that one ends.
It's been my experience that nobody really fucks with anyone who isn't royally fucking up. There are going to be people like Smeds going forward. That part is not going away. Addict bullshit needs to be pointed out in plain and simple terms... not psycho-babble ass patting. Thank God for that. If you don't like someone calling you a pink panty wearing pussy, then do what the site is asking you to do. Make your promise early every day, keep your word, don't cave. If you can't do that, you are insulting everyone else who is putting in time and effort to help save your life. When you prove you don't give a shit about anything, including yourself-- only the nic bitch-- what other kind of language is going to get your attention? Have you been there for Smeds or anybody else? And you wonder why some people get a little pissed at your blame game. Grow up, sack up, show up, and be a man of your word, and you won't have be at day 1 crying again.
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@Daviddim (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=10040) sounds like you have an accountability issue. You are an addict. You fucked up. You caved. You refused the help of others. Until you man up, own, learn from it, you will fail again. When you come to terms with things go post roll and earn some respect back.
I take full responsibility for my cave, I know I fucked up and I know how, in that story I’m not blaming my old group whatsoever for anything. I’m involving that part of the story because there’s a lot of people on this website that don’t react well to people like Smeds and they want to leave this site because of it. I’m telling that part of the story because I am what happens when you no longer have accountability for your quit, eventually the nic monster is guna come knocking at your tonsil door and try to fuck you in the mouth, you’ll either be strong enough, or you’ll be just drunk enough to give no fucks, and down the rabbit hole we go, we all know how that one ends.
It's been my experience that nobody really fucks with anyone who isn't royally fucking up. There are going to be people like Smeds going forward. That part is not going away. Addict bullshit needs to be pointed out in plain and simple terms... not psycho-babble ass patting. Thank God for that. If you don't like someone calling you a pink panty wearing pussy, then do what the site is asking you to do. Make your promise early every day, keep your word, don't cave. If you can't do that, you are insulting everyone else who is putting in time and effort to help save your life. When you prove you don't give a shit about anything, including yourself-- only the nic bitch-- what other kind of language is going to get your attention? Have you been there for Smeds or anybody else? And you wonder why some people get a little pissed at your blame game. Grow up, sack up, show up, and be a man of your word, and you won't have be at day 1 crying again.
@Zeus (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1968) You shouldn't fuck with anyone unless they come to you and say they broke their promise or caved. I WILL NEVER give up on someone thats still sober, even if they're slipping on roll. Im going to keep reminding them, when and if they do cave I'm going to give them a swift reaming, because thats when they deserve it HELL, i might even call @Smeds (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=517) to help me with the reaming. If the person is still quit, which is why were all here, you don't deserve to be treated like a caver. PLAIN AND SIMPLE
Let me say this for a third time..... Smeds, July, all the quitters of KTC. ITS YOUR FAULT THAT I WAS SUCCESFULLY STOPPED 1200 days. ITS MY FAULT for leaving this site. ITS MY FAULT for loosening my quit and being a dumbass caver, to have a stronger quit though I'm going to stand up for people who are sober, I'm going to be much more heavily involved than last time, but I'm also going to tell Smeds he's a piece of shit and couldn't lead an ant to a grain of sugar. Deal with it.
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I’m not making an excuse, I know full well it was my decision to cave and get loose on roll. I should have reached out to admins to move me to a new group. Instead I thought I could go without one, Which is exactly where I went wrong. I will be posting in both groups as soon as I can find them. Thanks for the reply.
Apparently you think the Admins would've located a group for you where posting WASN'T a priority? You're the biggest fucking victim I've ever had the displeasure of interacting with.
For anyone else reading this travesty ... Daviddimwit was in the July '14 DD's. He received a lot of text reminders from me early on in our quits to get on roll. After a while, I refused to quit FOR him, and stopped pinging him. You'll all get there at some point ... there's a threshold for holding a quitter's hand where after a while it appears you're almost forcing him to quit and stay accountable. After a while, his missing roll multiple times progressed into a much more disgusted tone from the group ... and me especially. This is called HOLDING SOMEONE ACCOUNTABLE for their actions, something we all signed up for. Instead of flipping the switch and righting his ship ... he got pissy. "I should have reached out to admins to move me to a new group" ... wow, so much blame deflecting in one sentence.
We all see where getting pissy and playing the victim got Daviddimwit. Yet, he continues to do so. He actually still believes that due to the actions of a select few he was "forced" to leave the site. Until he unfucks his head, he's destined to repeat history.
YOU decided to make that drive to the convenience store. YOU decided to ask for a tin. YOU decided to go ahead and pay for that tin. YOU decided to lay a fingernail to it, and pop the lid. YOU decided to throw in a fucking disgusting cat turd. YOU decided to continue to do so for what ... near two more years?? All of those decisions were made because a meanie did exactly what they had did from day one, which was hold your ass accountable? It all happened because you "should've asked admins" to move you to a group where dudes didn't require you were on roll?
Get lost with that shit. I truly hope this time around isn't another stoppage for you ... but you're destined for it if you don't flip your script, and NOW.
Own your shit, own your quit ... it's the only thing that works. 1/2-assed attempts will always get 1/2-ass results.
Cool twist on my own cave story smedsy, you’re still a piece of shit human being, you always will be. Never in any of my stories did I say it was any of your faults that I caved, so stop putting your own shit in my cave story. The reason I wrote it up like it is, is if someone is dealing with an immature god complex trash person “leader” like you on this site they can learn from my mistake and not let it discourage them from using this site, because I’m the example of what happens. We get weak when we don’t have accountability, I had no one to reach out to when I was starting to sink. I FUCKED UP! I FUCKIN KNOW I FUCKED UP, and I wrote the story of how I fucked up, and I’ll tell it the same every time.
Actually I’ll reword this part “I was unhappy with SMEDS! He loved to trash other people to build up his quit instead of treat people with respect and inspire through actual effective leadership qualities, tough love is not telling someone they have a pussy and pink panties when they’re 1200 days quit.” Your leadership style is not effective for me, and unless you wana change it, stay far away from my quit.
Still a victim. You forget all those early days when I supported you, when I texted with you, when I checked in to make sure you were good? Yeah, same dude here. When you started missing, and caring less and less ... did you expect the soft noodle to the a-hole, while I gently cooed how proud I was that you actually DID take the time to post roll?
I knew where you were heading, we all did. We kicked up our rhetoric because of it. I should’ve known that once a snowflake always a snowflake. It’s obvious I was right, look what happened.
If you want soft support, and unconditional love ... get another cat you pussy. I’m exactly what you needed, had you been a man. Ask any of the current dudes in July ‘14 if they consider your story accurate. You’ll get a resounding no. But rage on dude ... maybe it’ll help you. If you think I’m no longer course-correcting dudes who don’t know how to quit, you’re wrong. But keep it up, it’s fairly entertaining ripping your butterfly wings off ... AGAIN.
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I’m not making an excuse, I know full well it was my decision to cave and get loose on roll. I should have reached out to admins to move me to a new group. Instead I thought I could go without one, Which is exactly where I went wrong. I will be posting in both groups as soon as I can find them. Thanks for the reply.
Apparently you think the Admins would've located a group for you where posting WASN'T a priority? You're the biggest fucking victim I've ever had the displeasure of interacting with.
For anyone else reading this travesty ... Daviddimwit was in the July '14 DD's. He received a lot of text reminders from me early on in our quits to get on roll. After a while, I refused to quit FOR him, and stopped pinging him. You'll all get there at some point ... there's a threshold for holding a quitter's hand where after a while it appears you're almost forcing him to quit and stay accountable. After a while, his missing roll multiple times progressed into a much more disgusted tone from the group ... and me especially. This is called HOLDING SOMEONE ACCOUNTABLE for their actions, something we all signed up for. Instead of flipping the switch and righting his ship ... he got pissy. "I should have reached out to admins to move me to a new group" ... wow, so much blame deflecting in one sentence.
We all see where getting pissy and playing the victim got Daviddimwit. Yet, he continues to do so. He actually still believes that due to the actions of a select few he was "forced" to leave the site. Until he unfucks his head, he's destined to repeat history.
YOU decided to make that drive to the convenience store. YOU decided to ask for a tin. YOU decided to go ahead and pay for that tin. YOU decided to lay a fingernail to it, and pop the lid. YOU decided to throw in a fucking disgusting cat turd. YOU decided to continue to do so for what ... near two more years?? All of those decisions were made because a meanie did exactly what they had did from day one, which was hold your ass accountable? It all happened because you "should've asked admins" to move you to a group where dudes didn't require you were on roll?
Get lost with that shit. I truly hope this time around isn't another stoppage for you ... but you're destined for it if you don't flip your script, and NOW.
Own your shit, own your quit ... it's the only thing that works. 1/2-assed attempts will always get 1/2-ass results.
Cool twist on my own cave story smedsy, you’re still a piece of shit human being, you always will be. Never in any of my stories did I say it was any of your faults that I caved, so stop putting your own shit in my cave story. The reason I wrote it up like it is, is if someone is dealing with an immature god complex trash person “leader” like you on this site they can learn from my mistake and not let it discourage them from using this site, because I’m the example of what happens. We get weak when we don’t have accountability, I had no one to reach out to when I was starting to sink. I FUCKED UP! I FUCKIN KNOW I FUCKED UP, and I wrote the story of how I fucked up, and I’ll tell it the same every time.
Actually I’ll reword this part “I was unhappy with SMEDS! He loved to trash other people to build up his quit instead of treat people with respect and inspire through actual effective leadership qualities, tough love is not telling someone they have a pussy and pink panties when they’re 1200 days quit.” Your leadership style is not effective for me, and unless you wana change it, stay far away from my quit.
Still a victim. You forget all those early days when I supported you, when I texted with you, when I checked in to make sure you were good? Yeah, same dude here. When you started missing, and caring less and less ... did you expect the soft noodle to the a-hole, while I gently cooed how proud I was that you actually DID take the time to post roll?
I knew where you were heading, we all did. We kicked up our rhetoric because of it. I should’ve known that once a snowflake always a snowflake. It’s obvious I was right, look what happened.
If you want soft support, and unconditional love ... get another cat you pussy. I’m exactly what you needed, had you been a man. Ask any of the current dudes in July ‘14 if they consider your story accurate. You’ll get a resounding no. But rage on dude ... maybe it’ll help you. If you think I’m no longer course-correcting dudes who don’t know how to quit, you’re wrong. But keep it up, it’s fairly entertaining ripping your butterfly wings off ... AGAIN.
BTW ... how was that Q&A with the admins going to go? "Hey dudes, I've got a guy in my group that is CONSTANTLY on my ass about posting roll. He continuously labors the point that slipping on roll leads to possibly bailing altogether, and that bailing altogether leads to caving ... or something along those lines. Do you know of any groups who WON'T hold me to those standards? It's really starting to weigh on me!"
'flush'
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I’m not making an excuse, I know full well it was my decision to cave and get loose on roll. I should have reached out to admins to move me to a new group. Instead I thought I could go without one, Which is exactly where I went wrong. I will be posting in both groups as soon as I can find them. Thanks for the reply.
Apparently you think the Admins would've located a group for you where posting WASN'T a priority? You're the biggest fucking victim I've ever had the displeasure of interacting with.
For anyone else reading this travesty ... Daviddimwit was in the July '14 DD's. He received a lot of text reminders from me early on in our quits to get on roll. After a while, I refused to quit FOR him, and stopped pinging him. You'll all get there at some point ... there's a threshold for holding a quitter's hand where after a while it appears you're almost forcing him to quit and stay accountable. After a while, his missing roll multiple times progressed into a much more disgusted tone from the group ... and me especially. This is called HOLDING SOMEONE ACCOUNTABLE for their actions, something we all signed up for. Instead of flipping the switch and righting his ship ... he got pissy. "I should have reached out to admins to move me to a new group" ... wow, so much blame deflecting in one sentence.
We all see where getting pissy and playing the victim got Daviddimwit. Yet, he continues to do so. He actually still believes that due to the actions of a select few he was "forced" to leave the site. Until he unfucks his head, he's destined to repeat history.
YOU decided to make that drive to the convenience store. YOU decided to ask for a tin. YOU decided to go ahead and pay for that tin. YOU decided to lay a fingernail to it, and pop the lid. YOU decided to throw in a fucking disgusting cat turd. YOU decided to continue to do so for what ... near two more years?? All of those decisions were made because a meanie did exactly what they had did from day one, which was hold your ass accountable? It all happened because you "should've asked admins" to move you to a group where dudes didn't require you were on roll?
Get lost with that shit. I truly hope this time around isn't another stoppage for you ... but you're destined for it if you don't flip your script, and NOW.
Own your shit, own your quit ... it's the only thing that works. 1/2-assed attempts will always get 1/2-ass results.
Cool twist on my own cave story smedsy, you’re still a piece of shit human being, you always will be. Never in any of my stories did I say it was any of your faults that I caved, so stop putting your own shit in my cave story. The reason I wrote it up like it is, is if someone is dealing with an immature god complex trash person “leader” like you on this site they can learn from my mistake and not let it discourage them from using this site, because I’m the example of what happens. We get weak when we don’t have accountability, I had no one to reach out to when I was starting to sink. I FUCKED UP! I FUCKIN KNOW I FUCKED UP, and I wrote the story of how I fucked up, and I’ll tell it the same every time.
Actually I’ll reword this part “I was unhappy with SMEDS! He loved to trash other people to build up his quit instead of treat people with respect and inspire through actual effective leadership qualities, tough love is not telling someone they have a pussy and pink panties when they’re 1200 days quit.” Your leadership style is not effective for me, and unless you wana change it, stay far away from my quit.
Still a victim. You forget all those early days when I supported you, when I texted with you, when I checked in to make sure you were good? Yeah, same dude here. When you started missing, and caring less and less ... did you expect the soft noodle to the a-hole, while I gently cooed how proud I was that you actually DID take the time to post roll?
I knew where you were heading, we all did. We kicked up our rhetoric because of it. I should’ve known that once a snowflake always a snowflake. It’s obvious I was right, look what happened.
If you want soft support, and unconditional love ... get another cat you pussy. I’m exactly what you needed, had you been a man. Ask any of the current dudes in July ‘14 if they consider your story accurate. You’ll get a resounding no. But rage on dude ... maybe it’ll help you. If you think I’m no longer course-correcting dudes who don’t know how to quit, you’re wrong. But keep it up, it’s fairly entertaining ripping your butterfly wings off ... AGAIN.
BTW ... how was that Q&A with the admins going to go? "Hey dudes, I've got a guy in my group that is CONSTANTLY on my ass about posting roll. He continuously labors the point that slipping on roll leads to possibly bailing altogether, and that bailing altogether leads to caving ... or something along those lines. Do you know of any groups who WON'T hold me to those standards? It's really starting to weigh on me!"
'flush'
Oh yeah, one more thing. Go to your profile and change your quit date. 2014 isn't exactly accurate anymore.
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I’m not making an excuse, I know full well it was my decision to cave and get loose on roll. I should have reached out to admins to move me to a new group. Instead I thought I could go without one, Which is exactly where I went wrong. I will be posting in both groups as soon as I can find them. Thanks for the reply.
Apparently you think the Admins would've located a group for you where posting WASN'T a priority? You're the biggest fucking victim I've ever had the displeasure of interacting with.
For anyone else reading this travesty ... Daviddimwit was in the July '14 DD's. He received a lot of text reminders from me early on in our quits to get on roll. After a while, I refused to quit FOR him, and stopped pinging him. You'll all get there at some point ... there's a threshold for holding a quitter's hand where after a while it appears you're almost forcing him to quit and stay accountable. After a while, his missing roll multiple times progressed into a much more disgusted tone from the group ... and me especially. This is called HOLDING SOMEONE ACCOUNTABLE for their actions, something we all signed up for. Instead of flipping the switch and righting his ship ... he got pissy. "I should have reached out to admins to move me to a new group" ... wow, so much blame deflecting in one sentence.
We all see where getting pissy and playing the victim got Daviddimwit. Yet, he continues to do so. He actually still believes that due to the actions of a select few he was "forced" to leave the site. Until he unfucks his head, he's destined to repeat history.
YOU decided to make that drive to the convenience store. YOU decided to ask for a tin. YOU decided to go ahead and pay for that tin. YOU decided to lay a fingernail to it, and pop the lid. YOU decided to throw in a fucking disgusting cat turd. YOU decided to continue to do so for what ... near two more years?? All of those decisions were made because a meanie did exactly what they had did from day one, which was hold your ass accountable? It all happened because you "should've asked admins" to move you to a group where dudes didn't require you were on roll?
Get lost with that shit. I truly hope this time around isn't another stoppage for you ... but you're destined for it if you don't flip your script, and NOW.
Own your shit, own your quit ... it's the only thing that works. 1/2-assed attempts will always get 1/2-ass results.
Cool twist on my own cave story smedsy, you’re still a piece of shit human being, you always will be. Never in any of my stories did I say it was any of your faults that I caved, so stop putting your own shit in my cave story. The reason I wrote it up like it is, is if someone is dealing with an immature god complex trash person “leader” like you on this site they can learn from my mistake and not let it discourage them from using this site, because I’m the example of what happens. We get weak when we don’t have accountability, I had no one to reach out to when I was starting to sink. I FUCKED UP! I FUCKIN KNOW I FUCKED UP, and I wrote the story of how I fucked up, and I’ll tell it the same every time.
Actually I’ll reword this part “I was unhappy with SMEDS! He loved to trash other people to build up his quit instead of treat people with respect and inspire through actual effective leadership qualities, tough love is not telling someone they have a pussy and pink panties when they’re 1200 days quit.” Your leadership style is not effective for me, and unless you wana change it, stay far away from my quit.
Still a victim. You forget all those early days when I supported you, when I texted with you, when I checked in to make sure you were good? Yeah, same dude here. When you started missing, and caring less and less ... did you expect the soft noodle to the a-hole, while I gently cooed how proud I was that you actually DID take the time to post roll?
I knew where you were heading, we all did. We kicked up our rhetoric because of it. I should’ve known that once a snowflake always a snowflake. It’s obvious I was right, look what happened.
If you want soft support, and unconditional love ... get another cat you pussy. I’m exactly what you needed, had you been a man. Ask any of the current dudes in July ‘14 if they consider your story accurate. You’ll get a resounding no. But rage on dude ... maybe it’ll help you. If you think I’m no longer course-correcting dudes who don’t know how to quit, you’re wrong. But keep it up, it’s fairly entertaining ripping your butterfly wings off ... AGAIN.
see.... you're just proving my story by saying this shit...... You were never helpful or inspiring, you said shit like this to me my entire way up to 1200. I used to grovel at your feet just to make you stop. Eventually i got sick of dealing with it. In all honesty it was just you, the rest of july was solid. Idk why you think this helps anyone, i think it only helps you feel better bud. This is my last response to you bro, I'm on a different road this time, the one where you're not involved.
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I’m not making an excuse, I know full well it was my decision to cave and get loose on roll. I should have reached out to admins to move me to a new group. Instead I thought I could go without one, Which is exactly where I went wrong. I will be posting in both groups as soon as I can find them. Thanks for the reply.
Apparently you think the Admins would've located a group for you where posting WASN'T a priority? You're the biggest fucking victim I've ever had the displeasure of interacting with.
For anyone else reading this travesty ... Daviddimwit was in the July '14 DD's. He received a lot of text reminders from me early on in our quits to get on roll. After a while, I refused to quit FOR him, and stopped pinging him. You'll all get there at some point ... there's a threshold for holding a quitter's hand where after a while it appears you're almost forcing him to quit and stay accountable. After a while, his missing roll multiple times progressed into a much more disgusted tone from the group ... and me especially. This is called HOLDING SOMEONE ACCOUNTABLE for their actions, something we all signed up for. Instead of flipping the switch and righting his ship ... he got pissy. "I should have reached out to admins to move me to a new group" ... wow, so much blame deflecting in one sentence.
We all see where getting pissy and playing the victim got Daviddimwit. Yet, he continues to do so. He actually still believes that due to the actions of a select few he was "forced" to leave the site. Until he unfucks his head, he's destined to repeat history.
YOU decided to make that drive to the convenience store. YOU decided to ask for a tin. YOU decided to go ahead and pay for that tin. YOU decided to lay a fingernail to it, and pop the lid. YOU decided to throw in a fucking disgusting cat turd. YOU decided to continue to do so for what ... near two more years?? All of those decisions were made because a meanie did exactly what they had did from day one, which was hold your ass accountable? It all happened because you "should've asked admins" to move you to a group where dudes didn't require you were on roll?
Get lost with that shit. I truly hope this time around isn't another stoppage for you ... but you're destined for it if you don't flip your script, and NOW.
Own your shit, own your quit ... it's the only thing that works. 1/2-assed attempts will always get 1/2-ass results.
Cool twist on my own cave story smedsy, you’re still a piece of shit human being, you always will be. Never in any of my stories did I say it was any of your faults that I caved, so stop putting your own shit in my cave story. The reason I wrote it up like it is, is if someone is dealing with an immature god complex trash person “leader” like you on this site they can learn from my mistake and not let it discourage them from using this site, because I’m the example of what happens. We get weak when we don’t have accountability, I had no one to reach out to when I was starting to sink. I FUCKED UP! I FUCKIN KNOW I FUCKED UP, and I wrote the story of how I fucked up, and I’ll tell it the same every time.
Actually I’ll reword this part “I was unhappy with SMEDS! He loved to trash other people to build up his quit instead of treat people with respect and inspire through actual effective leadership qualities, tough love is not telling someone they have a pussy and pink panties when they’re 1200 days quit.” Your leadership style is not effective for me, and unless you wana change it, stay far away from my quit.
Still a victim. You forget all those early days when I supported you, when I texted with you, when I checked in to make sure you were good? Yeah, same dude here. When you started missing, and caring less and less ... did you expect the soft noodle to the a-hole, while I gently cooed how proud I was that you actually DID take the time to post roll?
I knew where you were heading, we all did. We kicked up our rhetoric because of it. I should’ve known that once a snowflake always a snowflake. It’s obvious I was right, look what happened.
If you want soft support, and unconditional love ... get another cat you pussy. I’m exactly what you needed, had you been a man. Ask any of the current dudes in July ‘14 if they consider your story accurate. You’ll get a resounding no. But rage on dude ... maybe it’ll help you. If you think I’m no longer course-correcting dudes who don’t know how to quit, you’re wrong. But keep it up, it’s fairly entertaining ripping your butterfly wings off ... AGAIN.
BTW ... how was that Q&A with the admins going to go? "Hey dudes, I've got a guy in my group that is CONSTANTLY on my ass about posting roll. He continuously labors the point that slipping on roll leads to possibly bailing altogether, and that bailing altogether leads to caving ... or something along those lines. Do you know of any groups who WON'T hold me to those standards? It's really starting to weigh on me!"
'flush'
Oh yeah, one more thing. Go to your profile and change your quit date. 2014 isn't exactly accurate anymore.
Oh yeah, i literally was just working on that. I couldn't find the edit function.....
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I’m not making an excuse, I know full well it was my decision to cave and get loose on roll. I should have reached out to admins to move me to a new group. Instead I thought I could go without one, Which is exactly where I went wrong. I will be posting in both groups as soon as I can find them. Thanks for the reply.
Apparently you think the Admins would've located a group for you where posting WASN'T a priority? You're the biggest fucking victim I've ever had the displeasure of interacting with.
For anyone else reading this travesty ... Daviddimwit was in the July '14 DD's. He received a lot of text reminders from me early on in our quits to get on roll. After a while, I refused to quit FOR him, and stopped pinging him. You'll all get there at some point ... there's a threshold for holding a quitter's hand where after a while it appears you're almost forcing him to quit and stay accountable. After a while, his missing roll multiple times progressed into a much more disgusted tone from the group ... and me especially. This is called HOLDING SOMEONE ACCOUNTABLE for their actions, something we all signed up for. Instead of flipping the switch and righting his ship ... he got pissy. "I should have reached out to admins to move me to a new group" ... wow, so much blame deflecting in one sentence.
We all see where getting pissy and playing the victim got Daviddimwit. Yet, he continues to do so. He actually still believes that due to the actions of a select few he was "forced" to leave the site. Until he unfucks his head, he's destined to repeat history.
YOU decided to make that drive to the convenience store. YOU decided to ask for a tin. YOU decided to go ahead and pay for that tin. YOU decided to lay a fingernail to it, and pop the lid. YOU decided to throw in a fucking disgusting cat turd. YOU decided to continue to do so for what ... near two more years?? All of those decisions were made because a meanie did exactly what they had did from day one, which was hold your ass accountable? It all happened because you "should've asked admins" to move you to a group where dudes didn't require you were on roll?
Get lost with that shit. I truly hope this time around isn't another stoppage for you ... but you're destined for it if you don't flip your script, and NOW.
Own your shit, own your quit ... it's the only thing that works. 1/2-assed attempts will always get 1/2-ass results.
Cool twist on my own cave story smedsy, you’re still a piece of shit human being, you always will be. Never in any of my stories did I say it was any of your faults that I caved, so stop putting your own shit in my cave story. The reason I wrote it up like it is, is if someone is dealing with an immature god complex trash person “leader” like you on this site they can learn from my mistake and not let it discourage them from using this site, because I’m the example of what happens. We get weak when we don’t have accountability, I had no one to reach out to when I was starting to sink. I FUCKED UP! I FUCKIN KNOW I FUCKED UP, and I wrote the story of how I fucked up, and I’ll tell it the same every time.
Actually I’ll reword this part “I was unhappy with SMEDS! He loved to trash other people to build up his quit instead of treat people with respect and inspire through actual effective leadership qualities, tough love is not telling someone they have a pussy and pink panties when they’re 1200 days quit.” Your leadership style is not effective for me, and unless you wana change it, stay far away from my quit.
Still a victim. You forget all those early days when I supported you, when I texted with you, when I checked in to make sure you were good? Yeah, same dude here. When you started missing, and caring less and less ... did you expect the soft noodle to the a-hole, while I gently cooed how proud I was that you actually DID take the time to post roll?
I knew where you were heading, we all did. We kicked up our rhetoric because of it. I should’ve known that once a snowflake always a snowflake. It’s obvious I was right, look what happened.
If you want soft support, and unconditional love ... get another cat you pussy. I’m exactly what you needed, had you been a man. Ask any of the current dudes in July ‘14 if they consider your story accurate. You’ll get a resounding no. But rage on dude ... maybe it’ll help you. If you think I’m no longer course-correcting dudes who don’t know how to quit, you’re wrong. But keep it up, it’s fairly entertaining ripping your butterfly wings off ... AGAIN.
see.... you're just proving my story by saying this shit...... You were never helpful or inspiring, you said shit like this to me my entire way up to 1200. I used to grovel at your feet just to make you stop. Eventually i got sick of dealing with it. In all honesty it was just you, the rest of july was solid. Idk why you think this helps anyone, i think it only helps you feel better bud. This is my last response to you bro, I'm on a different road this time, the one where you're not involved.
You were a slacker, hence the treatment. “just to make you stop” = just to stop accountability. The rest of the guys didn’t really give a fuck about you and whether you posted or not ... which I guess is your version of “solid”. Solid = left me alone. What makes you think you WOULD NOT have ended up in the same place, seriously? Do you feel that “when convenient” is an OK approach to roll?
Real questions.
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I’m not making an excuse, I know full well it was my decision to cave and get loose on roll. I should have reached out to admins to move me to a new group. Instead I thought I could go without one, Which is exactly where I went wrong. I will be posting in both groups as soon as I can find them. Thanks for the reply.
Apparently you think the Admins would've located a group for you where posting WASN'T a priority? You're the biggest fucking victim I've ever had the displeasure of interacting with.
For anyone else reading this travesty ... Daviddimwit was in the July '14 DD's. He received a lot of text reminders from me early on in our quits to get on roll. After a while, I refused to quit FOR him, and stopped pinging him. You'll all get there at some point ... there's a threshold for holding a quitter's hand where after a while it appears you're almost forcing him to quit and stay accountable. After a while, his missing roll multiple times progressed into a much more disgusted tone from the group ... and me especially. This is called HOLDING SOMEONE ACCOUNTABLE for their actions, something we all signed up for. Instead of flipping the switch and righting his ship ... he got pissy. "I should have reached out to admins to move me to a new group" ... wow, so much blame deflecting in one sentence.
We all see where getting pissy and playing the victim got Daviddimwit. Yet, he continues to do so. He actually still believes that due to the actions of a select few he was "forced" to leave the site. Until he unfucks his head, he's destined to repeat history.
YOU decided to make that drive to the convenience store. YOU decided to ask for a tin. YOU decided to go ahead and pay for that tin. YOU decided to lay a fingernail to it, and pop the lid. YOU decided to throw in a fucking disgusting cat turd. YOU decided to continue to do so for what ... near two more years?? All of those decisions were made because a meanie did exactly what they had did from day one, which was hold your ass accountable? It all happened because you "should've asked admins" to move you to a group where dudes didn't require you were on roll?
Get lost with that shit. I truly hope this time around isn't another stoppage for you ... but you're destined for it if you don't flip your script, and NOW.
Own your shit, own your quit ... it's the only thing that works. 1/2-assed attempts will always get 1/2-ass results.
Cool twist on my own cave story smedsy, you’re still a piece of shit human being, you always will be. Never in any of my stories did I say it was any of your faults that I caved, so stop putting your own shit in my cave story. The reason I wrote it up like it is, is if someone is dealing with an immature god complex trash person “leader” like you on this site they can learn from my mistake and not let it discourage them from using this site, because I’m the example of what happens. We get weak when we don’t have accountability, I had no one to reach out to when I was starting to sink. I FUCKED UP! I FUCKIN KNOW I FUCKED UP, and I wrote the story of how I fucked up, and I’ll tell it the same every time.
Actually I’ll reword this part “I was unhappy with SMEDS! He loved to trash other people to build up his quit instead of treat people with respect and inspire through actual effective leadership qualities, tough love is not telling someone they have a pussy and pink panties when they’re 1200 days quit.” Your leadership style is not effective for me, and unless you wana change it, stay far away from my quit.
Still a victim. You forget all those early days when I supported you, when I texted with you, when I checked in to make sure you were good? Yeah, same dude here. When you started missing, and caring less and less ... did you expect the soft noodle to the a-hole, while I gently cooed how proud I was that you actually DID take the time to post roll?
I knew where you were heading, we all did. We kicked up our rhetoric because of it. I should’ve known that once a snowflake always a snowflake. It’s obvious I was right, look what happened.
If you want soft support, and unconditional love ... get another cat you pussy. I’m exactly what you needed, had you been a man. Ask any of the current dudes in July ‘14 if they consider your story accurate. You’ll get a resounding no. But rage on dude ... maybe it’ll help you. If you think I’m no longer course-correcting dudes who don’t know how to quit, you’re wrong. But keep it up, it’s fairly entertaining ripping your butterfly wings off ... AGAIN.
see.... you're just proving my story by saying this shit...... You were never helpful or inspiring, you said shit like this to me my entire way up to 1200. I used to grovel at your feet just to make you stop. Eventually i got sick of dealing with it. In all honesty it was just you, the rest of july was solid. Idk why you think this helps anyone, i think it only helps you feel better bud. This is my last response to you bro, I'm on a different road this time, the one where you're not involved.
You were a slacker, hence the treatment. “just to make you stop” = just to stop accountability. The rest of the guys didn’t really give a fuck about you and whether you posted or not ... which I guess is your version of “solid”. Solid = left me alone. What makes you think you WOULD NOT have ended up in the same place, seriously? Do you feel that “when convenient” is an OK approach to roll?
Real questions.
I’ve got the noodle ready. But it’s Siracha Ramen ... and dry.
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I’m not making an excuse, I know full well it was my decision to cave and get loose on roll. I should have reached out to admins to move me to a new group. Instead I thought I could go without one, Which is exactly where I went wrong. I will be posting in both groups as soon as I can find them. Thanks for the reply.
Apparently you think the Admins would've located a group for you where posting WASN'T a priority? You're the biggest fucking victim I've ever had the displeasure of interacting with.
For anyone else reading this travesty ... Daviddimwit was in the July '14 DD's. He received a lot of text reminders from me early on in our quits to get on roll. After a while, I refused to quit FOR him, and stopped pinging him. You'll all get there at some point ... there's a threshold for holding a quitter's hand where after a while it appears you're almost forcing him to quit and stay accountable. After a while, his missing roll multiple times progressed into a much more disgusted tone from the group ... and me especially. This is called HOLDING SOMEONE ACCOUNTABLE for their actions, something we all signed up for. Instead of flipping the switch and righting his ship ... he got pissy. "I should have reached out to admins to move me to a new group" ... wow, so much blame deflecting in one sentence.
We all see where getting pissy and playing the victim got Daviddimwit. Yet, he continues to do so. He actually still believes that due to the actions of a select few he was "forced" to leave the site. Until he unfucks his head, he's destined to repeat history.
YOU decided to make that drive to the convenience store. YOU decided to ask for a tin. YOU decided to go ahead and pay for that tin. YOU decided to lay a fingernail to it, and pop the lid. YOU decided to throw in a fucking disgusting cat turd. YOU decided to continue to do so for what ... near two more years?? All of those decisions were made because a meanie did exactly what they had did from day one, which was hold your ass accountable? It all happened because you "should've asked admins" to move you to a group where dudes didn't require you were on roll?
Get lost with that shit. I truly hope this time around isn't another stoppage for you ... but you're destined for it if you don't flip your script, and NOW.
Own your shit, own your quit ... it's the only thing that works. 1/2-assed attempts will always get 1/2-ass results.
Cool twist on my own cave story smedsy, you’re still a piece of shit human being, you always will be. Never in any of my stories did I say it was any of your faults that I caved, so stop putting your own shit in my cave story. The reason I wrote it up like it is, is if someone is dealing with an immature god complex trash person “leader” like you on this site they can learn from my mistake and not let it discourage them from using this site, because I’m the example of what happens. We get weak when we don’t have accountability, I had no one to reach out to when I was starting to sink. I FUCKED UP! I FUCKIN KNOW I FUCKED UP, and I wrote the story of how I fucked up, and I’ll tell it the same every time.
Actually I’ll reword this part “I was unhappy with SMEDS! He loved to trash other people to build up his quit instead of treat people with respect and inspire through actual effective leadership qualities, tough love is not telling someone they have a pussy and pink panties when they’re 1200 days quit.” Your leadership style is not effective for me, and unless you wana change it, stay far away from my quit.
Still a victim. You forget all those early days when I supported you, when I texted with you, when I checked in to make sure you were good? Yeah, same dude here. When you started missing, and caring less and less ... did you expect the soft noodle to the a-hole, while I gently cooed how proud I was that you actually DID take the time to post roll?
I knew where you were heading, we all did. We kicked up our rhetoric because of it. I should’ve known that once a snowflake always a snowflake. It’s obvious I was right, look what happened.
If you want soft support, and unconditional love ... get another cat you pussy. I’m exactly what you needed, had you been a man. Ask any of the current dudes in July ‘14 if they consider your story accurate. You’ll get a resounding no. But rage on dude ... maybe it’ll help you. If you think I’m no longer course-correcting dudes who don’t know how to quit, you’re wrong. But keep it up, it’s fairly entertaining ripping your butterfly wings off ... AGAIN.
see.... you're just proving my story by saying this shit...... You were never helpful or inspiring, you said shit like this to me my entire way up to 1200. I used to grovel at your feet just to make you stop. Eventually i got sick of dealing with it. In all honesty it was just you, the rest of july was solid. Idk why you think this helps anyone, i think it only helps you feel better bud. This is my last response to you bro, I'm on a different road this time, the one where you're not involved.
You were a slacker, hence the treatment. “just to make you stop” = just to stop accountability. The rest of the guys didn’t really give a fuck about you and whether you posted or not ... which I guess is your version of “solid”. Solid = left me alone. What makes you think you WOULD NOT have ended up in the same place, seriously? Do you feel that “when convenient” is an OK approach to roll?
Real questions.
"The rest of the guys didn’t really give a fuck about you and whether you posted or not"
WOW Even though i was sober...... Didn't even actually care, did that sound good when you were typing it? Also no bud, i wanted you to stop because i don't take that shit very well. I grew up with an abusive father and i don't respond well to that type of leadership. Just like you wouldn't respond well if i patted you on the back and said better luck next time champ. Again theres a difference between tough love and being straight out disrespectful and berating to someone. I suggest you really evaluate which approach you're taking when you write a message to someone.
Aye i admit to being lazy though, 1200 days quit and only 1300 posts is pretty pathetic. I wasn't involved enough and I'm definitely looking forward to being better than i was last time.
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I’m not making an excuse, I know full well it was my decision to cave and get loose on roll. I should have reached out to admins to move me to a new group. Instead I thought I could go without one, Which is exactly where I went wrong. I will be posting in both groups as soon as I can find them. Thanks for the reply.
Apparently you think the Admins would've located a group for you where posting WASN'T a priority? You're the biggest fucking victim I've ever had the displeasure of interacting with.
For anyone else reading this travesty ... Daviddimwit was in the July '14 DD's. He received a lot of text reminders from me early on in our quits to get on roll. After a while, I refused to quit FOR him, and stopped pinging him. You'll all get there at some point ... there's a threshold for holding a quitter's hand where after a while it appears you're almost forcing him to quit and stay accountable. After a while, his missing roll multiple times progressed into a much more disgusted tone from the group ... and me especially. This is called HOLDING SOMEONE ACCOUNTABLE for their actions, something we all signed up for. Instead of flipping the switch and righting his ship ... he got pissy. "I should have reached out to admins to move me to a new group" ... wow, so much blame deflecting in one sentence.
We all see where getting pissy and playing the victim got Daviddimwit. Yet, he continues to do so. He actually still believes that due to the actions of a select few he was "forced" to leave the site. Until he unfucks his head, he's destined to repeat history.
YOU decided to make that drive to the convenience store. YOU decided to ask for a tin. YOU decided to go ahead and pay for that tin. YOU decided to lay a fingernail to it, and pop the lid. YOU decided to throw in a fucking disgusting cat turd. YOU decided to continue to do so for what ... near two more years?? All of those decisions were made because a meanie did exactly what they had did from day one, which was hold your ass accountable? It all happened because you "should've asked admins" to move you to a group where dudes didn't require you were on roll?
Get lost with that shit. I truly hope this time around isn't another stoppage for you ... but you're destined for it if you don't flip your script, and NOW.
Own your shit, own your quit ... it's the only thing that works. 1/2-assed attempts will always get 1/2-ass results.
Cool twist on my own cave story smedsy, you’re still a piece of shit human being, you always will be. Never in any of my stories did I say it was any of your faults that I caved, so stop putting your own shit in my cave story. The reason I wrote it up like it is, is if someone is dealing with an immature god complex trash person “leader” like you on this site they can learn from my mistake and not let it discourage them from using this site, because I’m the example of what happens. We get weak when we don’t have accountability, I had no one to reach out to when I was starting to sink. I FUCKED UP! I FUCKIN KNOW I FUCKED UP, and I wrote the story of how I fucked up, and I’ll tell it the same every time.
Actually I’ll reword this part “I was unhappy with SMEDS! He loved to trash other people to build up his quit instead of treat people with respect and inspire through actual effective leadership qualities, tough love is not telling someone they have a pussy and pink panties when they’re 1200 days quit.” Your leadership style is not effective for me, and unless you wana change it, stay far away from my quit.
Still a victim. You forget all those early days when I supported you, when I texted with you, when I checked in to make sure you were good? Yeah, same dude here. When you started missing, and caring less and less ... did you expect the soft noodle to the a-hole, while I gently cooed how proud I was that you actually DID take the time to post roll?
I knew where you were heading, we all did. We kicked up our rhetoric because of it. I should’ve known that once a snowflake always a snowflake. It’s obvious I was right, look what happened.
If you want soft support, and unconditional love ... get another cat you pussy. I’m exactly what you needed, had you been a man. Ask any of the current dudes in July ‘14 if they consider your story accurate. You’ll get a resounding no. But rage on dude ... maybe it’ll help you. If you think I’m no longer course-correcting dudes who don’t know how to quit, you’re wrong. But keep it up, it’s fairly entertaining ripping your butterfly wings off ... AGAIN.
see.... you're just proving my story by saying this shit...... You were never helpful or inspiring, you said shit like this to me my entire way up to 1200. I used to grovel at your feet just to make you stop. Eventually i got sick of dealing with it. In all honesty it was just you, the rest of july was solid. Idk why you think this helps anyone, i think it only helps you feel better bud. This is my last response to you bro, I'm on a different road this time, the one where you're not involved.
You were a slacker, hence the treatment. “just to make you stop” = just to stop accountability. The rest of the guys didn’t really give a fuck about you and whether you posted or not ... which I guess is your version of “solid”. Solid = left me alone. What makes you think you WOULD NOT have ended up in the same place, seriously? Do you feel that “when convenient” is an OK approach to roll?
Real questions.
"The rest of the guys didn’t really give a fuck about you and whether you posted or not"
WOW Even though i was sober...... Didn't even actually care, did that sound good when you were typing it? Also no bud, i wanted you to stop because i don't take that shit very well. I grew up with an abusive father and i don't respond well to that type of leadership. Just like you wouldn't respond well if i patted you on the back and said better luck next time champ. Again theres a difference between tough love and being straight out disrespectful and berating to someone. I suggest you really evaluate which approach you're taking when you write a message to someone.
Aye i admit to being lazy though, 1200 days quit and only 1300 posts is pretty pathetic. I wasn't involved enough and I'm definitely looking forward to being better than i was last time.
Joining a forum that (at least used to) tout itself as extreme wasn’t really thought out then, was it? I’ll continue to be me ... and continue to be very supportive of quits new and old. I’ll also continue to hold dudes accountable, and ratchet up my accountability when it goes unanswered. Most here do. Funny, your memory somehow glosses over the beginnings of our quit relationship.
You didn’t answer my question. Do you think there’s a certain point in “quit” where it’s OK to treat roll as an afterthought? If so, what day do you think that falls?
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I’m not making an excuse, I know full well it was my decision to cave and get loose on roll. I should have reached out to admins to move me to a new group. Instead I thought I could go without one, Which is exactly where I went wrong. I will be posting in both groups as soon as I can find them. Thanks for the reply.
Apparently you think the Admins would've located a group for you where posting WASN'T a priority? You're the biggest fucking victim I've ever had the displeasure of interacting with.
For anyone else reading this travesty ... Daviddimwit was in the July '14 DD's. He received a lot of text reminders from me early on in our quits to get on roll. After a while, I refused to quit FOR him, and stopped pinging him. You'll all get there at some point ... there's a threshold for holding a quitter's hand where after a while it appears you're almost forcing him to quit and stay accountable. After a while, his missing roll multiple times progressed into a much more disgusted tone from the group ... and me especially. This is called HOLDING SOMEONE ACCOUNTABLE for their actions, something we all signed up for. Instead of flipping the switch and righting his ship ... he got pissy. "I should have reached out to admins to move me to a new group" ... wow, so much blame deflecting in one sentence.
We all see where getting pissy and playing the victim got Daviddimwit. Yet, he continues to do so. He actually still believes that due to the actions of a select few he was "forced" to leave the site. Until he unfucks his head, he's destined to repeat history.
YOU decided to make that drive to the convenience store. YOU decided to ask for a tin. YOU decided to go ahead and pay for that tin. YOU decided to lay a fingernail to it, and pop the lid. YOU decided to throw in a fucking disgusting cat turd. YOU decided to continue to do so for what ... near two more years?? All of those decisions were made because a meanie did exactly what they had did from day one, which was hold your ass accountable? It all happened because you "should've asked admins" to move you to a group where dudes didn't require you were on roll?
Get lost with that shit. I truly hope this time around isn't another stoppage for you ... but you're destined for it if you don't flip your script, and NOW.
Own your shit, own your quit ... it's the only thing that works. 1/2-assed attempts will always get 1/2-ass results.
Cool twist on my own cave story smedsy, you’re still a piece of shit human being, you always will be. Never in any of my stories did I say it was any of your faults that I caved, so stop putting your own shit in my cave story. The reason I wrote it up like it is, is if someone is dealing with an immature god complex trash person “leader” like you on this site they can learn from my mistake and not let it discourage them from using this site, because I’m the example of what happens. We get weak when we don’t have accountability, I had no one to reach out to when I was starting to sink. I FUCKED UP! I FUCKIN KNOW I FUCKED UP, and I wrote the story of how I fucked up, and I’ll tell it the same every time.
Actually I’ll reword this part “I was unhappy with SMEDS! He loved to trash other people to build up his quit instead of treat people with respect and inspire through actual effective leadership qualities, tough love is not telling someone they have a pussy and pink panties when they’re 1200 days quit.” Your leadership style is not effective for me, and unless you wana change it, stay far away from my quit.
Still a victim. You forget all those early days when I supported you, when I texted with you, when I checked in to make sure you were good? Yeah, same dude here. When you started missing, and caring less and less ... did you expect the soft noodle to the a-hole, while I gently cooed how proud I was that you actually DID take the time to post roll?
I knew where you were heading, we all did. We kicked up our rhetoric because of it. I should’ve known that once a snowflake always a snowflake. It’s obvious I was right, look what happened.
If you want soft support, and unconditional love ... get another cat you pussy. I’m exactly what you needed, had you been a man. Ask any of the current dudes in July ‘14 if they consider your story accurate. You’ll get a resounding no. But rage on dude ... maybe it’ll help you. If you think I’m no longer course-correcting dudes who don’t know how to quit, you’re wrong. But keep it up, it’s fairly entertaining ripping your butterfly wings off ... AGAIN.
see.... you're just proving my story by saying this shit...... You were never helpful or inspiring, you said shit like this to me my entire way up to 1200. I used to grovel at your feet just to make you stop. Eventually i got sick of dealing with it. In all honesty it was just you, the rest of july was solid. Idk why you think this helps anyone, i think it only helps you feel better bud. This is my last response to you bro, I'm on a different road this time, the one where you're not involved.
You were a slacker, hence the treatment. “just to make you stop” = just to stop accountability. The rest of the guys didn’t really give a fuck about you and whether you posted or not ... which I guess is your version of “solid”. Solid = left me alone. What makes you think you WOULD NOT have ended up in the same place, seriously? Do you feel that “when convenient” is an OK approach to roll?
Real questions.
"The rest of the guys didn’t really give a fuck about you and whether you posted or not"
WOW Even though i was sober...... Didn't even actually care, did that sound good when you were typing it? Also no bud, i wanted you to stop because i don't take that shit very well. I grew up with an abusive father and i don't respond well to that type of leadership. Just like you wouldn't respond well if i patted you on the back and said better luck next time champ. Again theres a difference between tough love and being straight out disrespectful and berating to someone. I suggest you really evaluate which approach you're taking when you write a message to someone.
Aye i admit to being lazy though, 1200 days quit and only 1300 posts is pretty pathetic. I wasn't involved enough and I'm definitely looking forward to being better than i was last time.
Joining a forum that (at least used to) tout itself as extreme wasn’t really thought out then, was it? I’ll continue to be me ... and continue to be very supportive of quits new and old. I’ll also continue to hold dudes accountable, and ratchet up my accountability when it goes unanswered. Most here do. Funny, your memory somehow glosses over the beginnings of our quit relationship.
You didn’t answer my question. Do you think there’s a certain point in “quit” where it’s OK to treat roll as an afterthought? If so, what day do you think that falls?
Its not okay for roll to be an afterthought, there is no day when you're cured, but its not okay to try to chase people away or discourage them from using this website ESPECIALLY BEFORE THEY HAVE CAVED. Its NOT OKAY to NOT GIVE A FUCK whether a guy posts roll or not! NO MATTER HOW MANY DAYS HES MISSED..... If he's sober and he tells me he's going to keep trying, he can still stand with me any day!
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Pretty pathetic excuse making.. your (re) intro seems to imply some fault of July abandoning you when it was clearly the other way around.
July operated no different than any other group back then. So quit whining about mean old Tom. Being there and getting to 1200 some odd days is a reason to be grateful to you former quit group.. you should be thankful for people willing to watch out for you and have your back. Coming on with an intro that would lead an uninformed persons to think you got abandoned is bullshit and by that attitude I'm not sure you're ready to really quit.
YOU stopped participating. You must remember the price of admission to KTC is a daily promise, bare minimum... You didn't even do that and look where you ended up...
Best of luck to you on your current stoppage, I really hope you make it quit but based on what you've written, combative, excuses and so forth, I don't think so.
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I’m not making an excuse, I know full well it was my decision to cave and get loose on roll. I should have reached out to admins to move me to a new group. Instead I thought I could go without one, Which is exactly where I went wrong. I will be posting in both groups as soon as I can find them. Thanks for the reply.
Apparently you think the Admins would've located a group for you where posting WASN'T a priority? You're the biggest fucking victim I've ever had the displeasure of interacting with.
For anyone else reading this travesty ... Daviddimwit was in the July '14 DD's. He received a lot of text reminders from me early on in our quits to get on roll. After a while, I refused to quit FOR him, and stopped pinging him. You'll all get there at some point ... there's a threshold for holding a quitter's hand where after a while it appears you're almost forcing him to quit and stay accountable. After a while, his missing roll multiple times progressed into a much more disgusted tone from the group ... and me especially. This is called HOLDING SOMEONE ACCOUNTABLE for their actions, something we all signed up for. Instead of flipping the switch and righting his ship ... he got pissy. "I should have reached out to admins to move me to a new group" ... wow, so much blame deflecting in one sentence.
We all see where getting pissy and playing the victim got Daviddimwit. Yet, he continues to do so. He actually still believes that due to the actions of a select few he was "forced" to leave the site. Until he unfucks his head, he's destined to repeat history.
YOU decided to make that drive to the convenience store. YOU decided to ask for a tin. YOU decided to go ahead and pay for that tin. YOU decided to lay a fingernail to it, and pop the lid. YOU decided to throw in a fucking disgusting cat turd. YOU decided to continue to do so for what ... near two more years?? All of those decisions were made because a meanie did exactly what they had did from day one, which was hold your ass accountable? It all happened because you "should've asked admins" to move you to a group where dudes didn't require you were on roll?
Get lost with that shit. I truly hope this time around isn't another stoppage for you ... but you're destined for it if you don't flip your script, and NOW.
Own your shit, own your quit ... it's the only thing that works. 1/2-assed attempts will always get 1/2-ass results.
Cool twist on my own cave story smedsy, you’re still a piece of shit human being, you always will be. Never in any of my stories did I say it was any of your faults that I caved, so stop putting your own shit in my cave story. The reason I wrote it up like it is, is if someone is dealing with an immature god complex trash person “leader” like you on this site they can learn from my mistake and not let it discourage them from using this site, because I’m the example of what happens. We get weak when we don’t have accountability, I had no one to reach out to when I was starting to sink. I FUCKED UP! I FUCKIN KNOW I FUCKED UP, and I wrote the story of how I fucked up, and I’ll tell it the same every time.
Actually I’ll reword this part “I was unhappy with SMEDS! He loved to trash other people to build up his quit instead of treat people with respect and inspire through actual effective leadership qualities, tough love is not telling someone they have a pussy and pink panties when they’re 1200 days quit.” Your leadership style is not effective for me, and unless you wana change it, stay far away from my quit.
Still a victim. You forget all those early days when I supported you, when I texted with you, when I checked in to make sure you were good? Yeah, same dude here. When you started missing, and caring less and less ... did you expect the soft noodle to the a-hole, while I gently cooed how proud I was that you actually DID take the time to post roll?
I knew where you were heading, we all did. We kicked up our rhetoric because of it. I should’ve known that once a snowflake always a snowflake. It’s obvious I was right, look what happened.
If you want soft support, and unconditional love ... get another cat you pussy. I’m exactly what you needed, had you been a man. Ask any of the current dudes in July ‘14 if they consider your story accurate. You’ll get a resounding no. But rage on dude ... maybe it’ll help you. If you think I’m no longer course-correcting dudes who don’t know how to quit, you’re wrong. But keep it up, it’s fairly entertaining ripping your butterfly wings off ... AGAIN.
see.... you're just proving my story by saying this shit...... You were never helpful or inspiring, you said shit like this to me my entire way up to 1200. I used to grovel at your feet just to make you stop. Eventually i got sick of dealing with it. In all honesty it was just you, the rest of july was solid. Idk why you think this helps anyone, i think it only helps you feel better bud. This is my last response to you bro, I'm on a different road this time, the one where you're not involved.
You were a slacker, hence the treatment. “just to make you stop” = just to stop accountability. The rest of the guys didn’t really give a fuck about you and whether you posted or not ... which I guess is your version of “solid”. Solid = left me alone. What makes you think you WOULD NOT have ended up in the same place, seriously? Do you feel that “when convenient” is an OK approach to roll?
Real questions.
"The rest of the guys didn’t really give a fuck about you and whether you posted or not"
WOW Even though i was sober...... Didn't even actually care, did that sound good when you were typing it? Also no bud, i wanted you to stop because i don't take that shit very well. I grew up with an abusive father and i don't respond well to that type of leadership. Just like you wouldn't respond well if i patted you on the back and said better luck next time champ. Again theres a difference between tough love and being straight out disrespectful and berating to someone. I suggest you really evaluate which approach you're taking when you write a message to someone.
Aye i admit to being lazy though, 1200 days quit and only 1300 posts is pretty pathetic. I wasn't involved enough and I'm definitely looking forward to being better than i was last time.
Joining a forum that (at least used to) tout itself as extreme wasn’t really thought out then, was it? I’ll continue to be me ... and continue to be very supportive of quits new and old. I’ll also continue to hold dudes accountable, and ratchet up my accountability when it goes unanswered. Most here do. Funny, your memory somehow glosses over the beginnings of our quit relationship.
You didn’t answer my question. Do you think there’s a certain point in “quit” where it’s OK to treat roll as an afterthought? If so, what day do you think that falls?
Its not okay for roll to be an afterthought, there is no day when you're cured, but its not okay to try to chase people away or discourage them from using this website ESPECIALLY BEFORE THEY HAVE CAVED. Its NOT OKAY to NOT GIVE A FUCK whether a guy posts roll or not! NO MATTER HOW MANY DAYS HES MISSED..... If he's sober and he tells me he's going to keep trying, he can still stand with me any day!
Oh quit having a fucking pity party for yourself and shut the fuck up. It’s clear to me that you need to do less talking and more listening. There’s a reason you’re a caving little bitch and you’re lucky to have Smeds taking an interest in helping you.
He saw you were heading for a cave the first time. He wasn’t chasing you away, he was trying to bring you closer. You didn’t listen the first time. Listen this time.
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I’m not making an excuse, I know full well it was my decision to cave and get loose on roll. I should have reached out to admins to move me to a new group. Instead I thought I could go without one, Which is exactly where I went wrong. I will be posting in both groups as soon as I can find them. Thanks for the reply.
Apparently you think the Admins would've located a group for you where posting WASN'T a priority? You're the biggest fucking victim I've ever had the displeasure of interacting with.
For anyone else reading this travesty ... Daviddimwit was in the July '14 DD's. He received a lot of text reminders from me early on in our quits to get on roll. After a while, I refused to quit FOR him, and stopped pinging him. You'll all get there at some point ... there's a threshold for holding a quitter's hand where after a while it appears you're almost forcing him to quit and stay accountable. After a while, his missing roll multiple times progressed into a much more disgusted tone from the group ... and me especially. This is called HOLDING SOMEONE ACCOUNTABLE for their actions, something we all signed up for. Instead of flipping the switch and righting his ship ... he got pissy. "I should have reached out to admins to move me to a new group" ... wow, so much blame deflecting in one sentence.
We all see where getting pissy and playing the victim got Daviddimwit. Yet, he continues to do so. He actually still believes that due to the actions of a select few he was "forced" to leave the site. Until he unfucks his head, he's destined to repeat history.
YOU decided to make that drive to the convenience store. YOU decided to ask for a tin. YOU decided to go ahead and pay for that tin. YOU decided to lay a fingernail to it, and pop the lid. YOU decided to throw in a fucking disgusting cat turd. YOU decided to continue to do so for what ... near two more years?? All of those decisions were made because a meanie did exactly what they had did from day one, which was hold your ass accountable? It all happened because you "should've asked admins" to move you to a group where dudes didn't require you were on roll?
Get lost with that shit. I truly hope this time around isn't another stoppage for you ... but you're destined for it if you don't flip your script, and NOW.
Own your shit, own your quit ... it's the only thing that works. 1/2-assed attempts will always get 1/2-ass results.
Cool twist on my own cave story smedsy, you’re still a piece of shit human being, you always will be. Never in any of my stories did I say it was any of your faults that I caved, so stop putting your own shit in my cave story. The reason I wrote it up like it is, is if someone is dealing with an immature god complex trash person “leader” like you on this site they can learn from my mistake and not let it discourage them from using this site, because I’m the example of what happens. We get weak when we don’t have accountability, I had no one to reach out to when I was starting to sink. I FUCKED UP! I FUCKIN KNOW I FUCKED UP, and I wrote the story of how I fucked up, and I’ll tell it the same every time.
Actually I’ll reword this part “I was unhappy with SMEDS! He loved to trash other people to build up his quit instead of treat people with respect and inspire through actual effective leadership qualities, tough love is not telling someone they have a pussy and pink panties when they’re 1200 days quit.” Your leadership style is not effective for me, and unless you wana change it, stay far away from my quit.
Still a victim. You forget all those early days when I supported you, when I texted with you, when I checked in to make sure you were good? Yeah, same dude here. When you started missing, and caring less and less ... did you expect the soft noodle to the a-hole, while I gently cooed how proud I was that you actually DID take the time to post roll?
I knew where you were heading, we all did. We kicked up our rhetoric because of it. I should’ve known that once a snowflake always a snowflake. It’s obvious I was right, look what happened.
If you want soft support, and unconditional love ... get another cat you pussy. I’m exactly what you needed, had you been a man. Ask any of the current dudes in July ‘14 if they consider your story accurate. You’ll get a resounding no. But rage on dude ... maybe it’ll help you. If you think I’m no longer course-correcting dudes who don’t know how to quit, you’re wrong. But keep it up, it’s fairly entertaining ripping your butterfly wings off ... AGAIN.
see.... you're just proving my story by saying this shit...... You were never helpful or inspiring, you said shit like this to me my entire way up to 1200. I used to grovel at your feet just to make you stop. Eventually i got sick of dealing with it. In all honesty it was just you, the rest of july was solid. Idk why you think this helps anyone, i think it only helps you feel better bud. This is my last response to you bro, I'm on a different road this time, the one where you're not involved.
You were a slacker, hence the treatment. “just to make you stop” = just to stop accountability. The rest of the guys didn’t really give a fuck about you and whether you posted or not ... which I guess is your version of “solid”. Solid = left me alone. What makes you think you WOULD NOT have ended up in the same place, seriously? Do you feel that “when convenient” is an OK approach to roll?
Real questions.
"The rest of the guys didn’t really give a fuck about you and whether you posted or not"
WOW Even though i was sober...... Didn't even actually care, did that sound good when you were typing it? Also no bud, i wanted you to stop because i don't take that shit very well. I grew up with an abusive father and i don't respond well to that type of leadership. Just like you wouldn't respond well if i patted you on the back and said better luck next time champ. Again theres a difference between tough love and being straight out disrespectful and berating to someone. I suggest you really evaluate which approach you're taking when you write a message to someone.
Aye i admit to being lazy though, 1200 days quit and only 1300 posts is pretty pathetic. I wasn't involved enough and I'm definitely looking forward to being better than i was last time.
Joining a forum that (at least used to) tout itself as extreme wasn’t really thought out then, was it? I’ll continue to be me ... and continue to be very supportive of quits new and old. I’ll also continue to hold dudes accountable, and ratchet up my accountability when it goes unanswered. Most here do. Funny, your memory somehow glosses over the beginnings of our quit relationship.
You didn’t answer my question. Do you think there’s a certain point in “quit” where it’s OK to treat roll as an afterthought? If so, what day do you think that falls?
Its not okay for roll to be an afterthought, there is no day when you're cured, but its not okay to try to chase people away or discourage them from using this website ESPECIALLY BEFORE THEY HAVE CAVED. Its NOT OKAY to NOT GIVE A FUCK whether a guy posts roll or not! NO MATTER HOW MANY DAYS HES MISSED..... If he's sober and he tells me he's going to keep trying, he can still stand with me any day!
Oh quit having a fucking pity party for yourself and shut the fuck up. It’s clear to me that you need to do less talking and more listening. There’s a reason you’re a caving little bitch and you’re lucky to have Smeds taking an interest in helping you.
He saw you were heading for a cave the first time. He wasn’t chasing you away, he was trying to bring you closer. You didn’t listen the first time. Listen this time.
Boom
I didn’t chase you away. I chased you to stay active! Your response to that led to you leaving, not vice versa! Unfuck your head.
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I’m not making an excuse, I know full well it was my decision to cave and get loose on roll. I should have reached out to admins to move me to a new group. Instead I thought I could go without one, Which is exactly where I went wrong. I will be posting in both groups as soon as I can find them. Thanks for the reply.
Apparently you think the Admins would've located a group for you where posting WASN'T a priority? You're the biggest fucking victim I've ever had the displeasure of interacting with.
For anyone else reading this travesty ... Daviddimwit was in the July '14 DD's. He received a lot of text reminders from me early on in our quits to get on roll. After a while, I refused to quit FOR him, and stopped pinging him. You'll all get there at some point ... there's a threshold for holding a quitter's hand where after a while it appears you're almost forcing him to quit and stay accountable. After a while, his missing roll multiple times progressed into a much more disgusted tone from the group ... and me especially. This is called HOLDING SOMEONE ACCOUNTABLE for their actions, something we all signed up for. Instead of flipping the switch and righting his ship ... he got pissy. "I should have reached out to admins to move me to a new group" ... wow, so much blame deflecting in one sentence.
We all see where getting pissy and playing the victim got Daviddimwit. Yet, he continues to do so. He actually still believes that due to the actions of a select few he was "forced" to leave the site. Until he unfucks his head, he's destined to repeat history.
YOU decided to make that drive to the convenience store. YOU decided to ask for a tin. YOU decided to go ahead and pay for that tin. YOU decided to lay a fingernail to it, and pop the lid. YOU decided to throw in a fucking disgusting cat turd. YOU decided to continue to do so for what ... near two more years?? All of those decisions were made because a meanie did exactly what they had did from day one, which was hold your ass accountable? It all happened because you "should've asked admins" to move you to a group where dudes didn't require you were on roll?
Get lost with that shit. I truly hope this time around isn't another stoppage for you ... but you're destined for it if you don't flip your script, and NOW.
Own your shit, own your quit ... it's the only thing that works. 1/2-assed attempts will always get 1/2-ass results.
Cool twist on my own cave story smedsy, you’re still a piece of shit human being, you always will be. Never in any of my stories did I say it was any of your faults that I caved, so stop putting your own shit in my cave story. The reason I wrote it up like it is, is if someone is dealing with an immature god complex trash person “leader” like you on this site they can learn from my mistake and not let it discourage them from using this site, because I’m the example of what happens. We get weak when we don’t have accountability, I had no one to reach out to when I was starting to sink. I FUCKED UP! I FUCKIN KNOW I FUCKED UP, and I wrote the story of how I fucked up, and I’ll tell it the same every time.
Actually I’ll reword this part “I was unhappy with SMEDS! He loved to trash other people to build up his quit instead of treat people with respect and inspire through actual effective leadership qualities, tough love is not telling someone they have a pussy and pink panties when they’re 1200 days quit.” Your leadership style is not effective for me, and unless you wana change it, stay far away from my quit.
Still a victim. You forget all those early days when I supported you, when I texted with you, when I checked in to make sure you were good? Yeah, same dude here. When you started missing, and caring less and less ... did you expect the soft noodle to the a-hole, while I gently cooed how proud I was that you actually DID take the time to post roll?
I knew where you were heading, we all did. We kicked up our rhetoric because of it. I should’ve known that once a snowflake always a snowflake. It’s obvious I was right, look what happened.
If you want soft support, and unconditional love ... get another cat you pussy. I’m exactly what you needed, had you been a man. Ask any of the current dudes in July ‘14 if they consider your story accurate. You’ll get a resounding no. But rage on dude ... maybe it’ll help you. If you think I’m no longer course-correcting dudes who don’t know how to quit, you’re wrong. But keep it up, it’s fairly entertaining ripping your butterfly wings off ... AGAIN.
see.... you're just proving my story by saying this shit...... You were never helpful or inspiring, you said shit like this to me my entire way up to 1200. I used to grovel at your feet just to make you stop. Eventually i got sick of dealing with it. In all honesty it was just you, the rest of july was solid. Idk why you think this helps anyone, i think it only helps you feel better bud. This is my last response to you bro, I'm on a different road this time, the one where you're not involved.
You were a slacker, hence the treatment. “just to make you stop” = just to stop accountability. The rest of the guys didn’t really give a fuck about you and whether you posted or not ... which I guess is your version of “solid”. Solid = left me alone. What makes you think you WOULD NOT have ended up in the same place, seriously? Do you feel that “when convenient” is an OK approach to roll?
Real questions.
"The rest of the guys didn’t really give a fuck about you and whether you posted or not"
WOW Even though i was sober...... Didn't even actually care, did that sound good when you were typing it? Also no bud, i wanted you to stop because i don't take that shit very well. I grew up with an abusive father and i don't respond well to that type of leadership. Just like you wouldn't respond well if i patted you on the back and said better luck next time champ. Again theres a difference between tough love and being straight out disrespectful and berating to someone. I suggest you really evaluate which approach you're taking when you write a message to someone.
Aye i admit to being lazy though, 1200 days quit and only 1300 posts is pretty pathetic. I wasn't involved enough and I'm definitely looking forward to being better than i was last time.
Joining a forum that (at least used to) tout itself as extreme wasn’t really thought out then, was it? I’ll continue to be me ... and continue to be very supportive of quits new and old. I’ll also continue to hold dudes accountable, and ratchet up my accountability when it goes unanswered. Most here do. Funny, your memory somehow glosses over the beginnings of our quit relationship.
You didn’t answer my question. Do you think there’s a certain point in “quit” where it’s OK to treat roll as an afterthought? If so, what day do you think that falls?
Its not okay for roll to be an afterthought, there is no day when you're cured, but its not okay to try to chase people away or discourage them from using this website ESPECIALLY BEFORE THEY HAVE CAVED. Its NOT OKAY to NOT GIVE A FUCK whether a guy posts roll or not! NO MATTER HOW MANY DAYS HES MISSED..... If he's sober and he tells me he's going to keep trying, he can still stand with me any day!
Oh quit having a fucking pity party for yourself and shut the fuck up. It’s clear to me that you need to do less talking and more listening. There’s a reason you’re a caving little bitch and you’re lucky to have Smeds taking an interest in helping you.
He saw you were heading for a cave the first time. He wasn’t chasing you away, he was trying to bring you closer. You didn’t listen the first time. Listen this time.
Boom
I didn’t chase you away. I chased you to stay active! Your response to that led to you leaving, not vice versa! Unfuck your head.
If I didn’t give a fuck about you using the website, why did I berate you to use the website? Do you read your own bullshit?
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I’m not making an excuse, I know full well it was my decision to cave and get loose on roll. I should have reached out to admins to move me to a new group. Instead I thought I could go without one, Which is exactly where I went wrong. I will be posting in both groups as soon as I can find them. Thanks for the reply.
Apparently you think the Admins would've located a group for you where posting WASN'T a priority? You're the biggest fucking victim I've ever had the displeasure of interacting with.
For anyone else reading this travesty ... Daviddimwit was in the July '14 DD's. He received a lot of text reminders from me early on in our quits to get on roll. After a while, I refused to quit FOR him, and stopped pinging him. You'll all get there at some point ... there's a threshold for holding a quitter's hand where after a while it appears you're almost forcing him to quit and stay accountable. After a while, his missing roll multiple times progressed into a much more disgusted tone from the group ... and me especially. This is called HOLDING SOMEONE ACCOUNTABLE for their actions, something we all signed up for. Instead of flipping the switch and righting his ship ... he got pissy. "I should have reached out to admins to move me to a new group" ... wow, so much blame deflecting in one sentence.
We all see where getting pissy and playing the victim got Daviddimwit. Yet, he continues to do so. He actually still believes that due to the actions of a select few he was "forced" to leave the site. Until he unfucks his head, he's destined to repeat history.
YOU decided to make that drive to the convenience store. YOU decided to ask for a tin. YOU decided to go ahead and pay for that tin. YOU decided to lay a fingernail to it, and pop the lid. YOU decided to throw in a fucking disgusting cat turd. YOU decided to continue to do so for what ... near two more years?? All of those decisions were made because a meanie did exactly what they had did from day one, which was hold your ass accountable? It all happened because you "should've asked admins" to move you to a group where dudes didn't require you were on roll?
Get lost with that shit. I truly hope this time around isn't another stoppage for you ... but you're destined for it if you don't flip your script, and NOW.
Own your shit, own your quit ... it's the only thing that works. 1/2-assed attempts will always get 1/2-ass results.
Cool twist on my own cave story smedsy, you’re still a piece of shit human being, you always will be. Never in any of my stories did I say it was any of your faults that I caved, so stop putting your own shit in my cave story. The reason I wrote it up like it is, is if someone is dealing with an immature god complex trash person “leader” like you on this site they can learn from my mistake and not let it discourage them from using this site, because I’m the example of what happens. We get weak when we don’t have accountability, I had no one to reach out to when I was starting to sink. I FUCKED UP! I FUCKIN KNOW I FUCKED UP, and I wrote the story of how I fucked up, and I’ll tell it the same every time.
Actually I’ll reword this part “I was unhappy with SMEDS! He loved to trash other people to build up his quit instead of treat people with respect and inspire through actual effective leadership qualities, tough love is not telling someone they have a pussy and pink panties when they’re 1200 days quit.” Your leadership style is not effective for me, and unless you wana change it, stay far away from my quit.
Still a victim. You forget all those early days when I supported you, when I texted with you, when I checked in to make sure you were good? Yeah, same dude here. When you started missing, and caring less and less ... did you expect the soft noodle to the a-hole, while I gently cooed how proud I was that you actually DID take the time to post roll?
I knew where you were heading, we all did. We kicked up our rhetoric because of it. I should’ve known that once a snowflake always a snowflake. It’s obvious I was right, look what happened.
If you want soft support, and unconditional love ... get another cat you pussy. I’m exactly what you needed, had you been a man. Ask any of the current dudes in July ‘14 if they consider your story accurate. You’ll get a resounding no. But rage on dude ... maybe it’ll help you. If you think I’m no longer course-correcting dudes who don’t know how to quit, you’re wrong. But keep it up, it’s fairly entertaining ripping your butterfly wings off ... AGAIN.
see.... you're just proving my story by saying this shit...... You were never helpful or inspiring, you said shit like this to me my entire way up to 1200. I used to grovel at your feet just to make you stop. Eventually i got sick of dealing with it. In all honesty it was just you, the rest of july was solid. Idk why you think this helps anyone, i think it only helps you feel better bud. This is my last response to you bro, I'm on a different road this time, the one where you're not involved.
You were a slacker, hence the treatment. “just to make you stop” = just to stop accountability. The rest of the guys didn’t really give a fuck about you and whether you posted or not ... which I guess is your version of “solid”. Solid = left me alone. What makes you think you WOULD NOT have ended up in the same place, seriously? Do you feel that “when convenient” is an OK approach to roll?
Real questions.
"The rest of the guys didn’t really give a fuck about you and whether you posted or not"
WOW Even though i was sober...... Didn't even actually care, did that sound good when you were typing it? Also no bud, i wanted you to stop because i don't take that shit very well. I grew up with an abusive father and i don't respond well to that type of leadership. Just like you wouldn't respond well if i patted you on the back and said better luck next time champ. Again theres a difference between tough love and being straight out disrespectful and berating to someone. I suggest you really evaluate which approach you're taking when you write a message to someone.
Aye i admit to being lazy though, 1200 days quit and only 1300 posts is pretty pathetic. I wasn't involved enough and I'm definitely looking forward to being better than i was last time.
Joining a forum that (at least used to) tout itself as extreme wasn’t really thought out then, was it? I’ll continue to be me ... and continue to be very supportive of quits new and old. I’ll also continue to hold dudes accountable, and ratchet up my accountability when it goes unanswered. Most here do. Funny, your memory somehow glosses over the beginnings of our quit relationship.
You didn’t answer my question. Do you think there’s a certain point in “quit” where it’s OK to treat roll as an afterthought? If so, what day do you think that falls?
Its not okay for roll to be an afterthought, there is no day when you're cured, but its not okay to try to chase people away or discourage them from using this website ESPECIALLY BEFORE THEY HAVE CAVED. Its NOT OKAY to NOT GIVE A FUCK whether a guy posts roll or not! NO MATTER HOW MANY DAYS HES MISSED..... If he's sober and he tells me he's going to keep trying, he can still stand with me any day!
Oh quit having a fucking pity party for yourself and shut the fuck up. It’s clear to me that you need to do less talking and more listening. There’s a reason you’re a caving little bitch and you’re lucky to have Smeds taking an interest in helping you.
He saw you were heading for a cave the first time. He wasn’t chasing you away, he was trying to bring you closer. You didn’t listen the first time. Listen this time.
Boom
I didn’t chase you away. I chased you to stay active! Your response to that led to you leaving, not vice versa! Unfuck your head.
If I didn’t give a fuck about you using the website, why did I berate you to use the website? Do you read your own bullshit?
Pretty pathetic excuse making.. your (re) intro seems to imply some fault of July abandoning you when it was clearly the other way around.
July operated no different than any other group back then. So quit whining about mean old Tom. Being there and getting to 1200 some odd days is a reason to be grateful to you former quit group.. you should be thankful for people willing to watch out for you and have your back. Coming on with an intro that would lead an uninformed persons to think you got abandoned is bullshit and by that attitude I'm not sure you're ready to really quit.
YOU stopped participating. You must remember the price of admission to KTC is a daily promise, bare minimum... You didn't even do that and look where you ended up...
Best of luck to you on your current stoppage, I really hope you make it quit but based on what you've written, combative, excuses and so forth, I don't think so.
(Adding previous post to vortex.. Did it wrong first time)
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I’m not making an excuse, I know full well it was my decision to cave and get loose on roll. I should have reached out to admins to move me to a new group. Instead I thought I could go without one, Which is exactly where I went wrong. I will be posting in both groups as soon as I can find them. Thanks for the reply.
Apparently you think the Admins would've located a group for you where posting WASN'T a priority? You're the biggest fucking victim I've ever had the displeasure of interacting with.
For anyone else reading this travesty ... Daviddimwit was in the July '14 DD's. He received a lot of text reminders from me early on in our quits to get on roll. After a while, I refused to quit FOR him, and stopped pinging him. You'll all get there at some point ... there's a threshold for holding a quitter's hand where after a while it appears you're almost forcing him to quit and stay accountable. After a while, his missing roll multiple times progressed into a much more disgusted tone from the group ... and me especially. This is called HOLDING SOMEONE ACCOUNTABLE for their actions, something we all signed up for. Instead of flipping the switch and righting his ship ... he got pissy. "I should have reached out to admins to move me to a new group" ... wow, so much blame deflecting in one sentence.
We all see where getting pissy and playing the victim got Daviddimwit. Yet, he continues to do so. He actually still believes that due to the actions of a select few he was "forced" to leave the site. Until he unfucks his head, he's destined to repeat history.
YOU decided to make that drive to the convenience store. YOU decided to ask for a tin. YOU decided to go ahead and pay for that tin. YOU decided to lay a fingernail to it, and pop the lid. YOU decided to throw in a fucking disgusting cat turd. YOU decided to continue to do so for what ... near two more years?? All of those decisions were made because a meanie did exactly what they had did from day one, which was hold your ass accountable? It all happened because you "should've asked admins" to move you to a group where dudes didn't require you were on roll?
Get lost with that shit. I truly hope this time around isn't another stoppage for you ... but you're destined for it if you don't flip your script, and NOW.
Own your shit, own your quit ... it's the only thing that works. 1/2-assed attempts will always get 1/2-ass results.
Cool twist on my own cave story smedsy, you’re still a piece of shit human being, you always will be. Never in any of my stories did I say it was any of your faults that I caved, so stop putting your own shit in my cave story. The reason I wrote it up like it is, is if someone is dealing with an immature god complex trash person “leader” like you on this site they can learn from my mistake and not let it discourage them from using this site, because I’m the example of what happens. We get weak when we don’t have accountability, I had no one to reach out to when I was starting to sink. I FUCKED UP! I FUCKIN KNOW I FUCKED UP, and I wrote the story of how I fucked up, and I’ll tell it the same every time.
Actually I’ll reword this part “I was unhappy with SMEDS! He loved to trash other people to build up his quit instead of treat people with respect and inspire through actual effective leadership qualities, tough love is not telling someone they have a pussy and pink panties when they’re 1200 days quit.” Your leadership style is not effective for me, and unless you wana change it, stay far away from my quit.
Still a victim. You forget all those early days when I supported you, when I texted with you, when I checked in to make sure you were good? Yeah, same dude here. When you started missing, and caring less and less ... did you expect the soft noodle to the a-hole, while I gently cooed how proud I was that you actually DID take the time to post roll?
I knew where you were heading, we all did. We kicked up our rhetoric because of it. I should’ve known that once a snowflake always a snowflake. It’s obvious I was right, look what happened.
If you want soft support, and unconditional love ... get another cat you pussy. I’m exactly what you needed, had you been a man. Ask any of the current dudes in July ‘14 if they consider your story accurate. You’ll get a resounding no. But rage on dude ... maybe it’ll help you. If you think I’m no longer course-correcting dudes who don’t know how to quit, you’re wrong. But keep it up, it’s fairly entertaining ripping your butterfly wings off ... AGAIN.
see.... you're just proving my story by saying this shit...... You were never helpful or inspiring, you said shit like this to me my entire way up to 1200. I used to grovel at your feet just to make you stop. Eventually i got sick of dealing with it. In all honesty it was just you, the rest of july was solid. Idk why you think this helps anyone, i think it only helps you feel better bud. This is my last response to you bro, I'm on a different road this time, the one where you're not involved.
You were a slacker, hence the treatment. “just to make you stop” = just to stop accountability. The rest of the guys didn’t really give a fuck about you and whether you posted or not ... which I guess is your version of “solid”. Solid = left me alone. What makes you think you WOULD NOT have ended up in the same place, seriously? Do you feel that “when convenient” is an OK approach to roll?
Real questions.
"The rest of the guys didn’t really give a fuck about you and whether you posted or not"
WOW Even though i was sober...... Didn't even actually care, did that sound good when you were typing it? Also no bud, i wanted you to stop because i don't take that shit very well. I grew up with an abusive father and i don't respond well to that type of leadership. Just like you wouldn't respond well if i patted you on the back and said better luck next time champ. Again theres a difference between tough love and being straight out disrespectful and berating to someone. I suggest you really evaluate which approach you're taking when you write a message to someone.
Aye i admit to being lazy though, 1200 days quit and only 1300 posts is pretty pathetic. I wasn't involved enough and I'm definitely looking forward to being better than i was last time.
Joining a forum that (at least used to) tout itself as extreme wasn’t really thought out then, was it? I’ll continue to be me ... and continue to be very supportive of quits new and old. I’ll also continue to hold dudes accountable, and ratchet up my accountability when it goes unanswered. Most here do. Funny, your memory somehow glosses over the beginnings of our quit relationship.
You didn’t answer my question. Do you think there’s a certain point in “quit” where it’s OK to treat roll as an afterthought? If so, what day do you think that falls?
Its not okay for roll to be an afterthought, there is no day when you're cured, but its not okay to try to chase people away or discourage them from using this website ESPECIALLY BEFORE THEY HAVE CAVED. Its NOT OKAY to NOT GIVE A FUCK whether a guy posts roll or not! NO MATTER HOW MANY DAYS HES MISSED..... If he's sober and he tells me he's going to keep trying, he can still stand with me any day!
Oh quit having a fucking pity party for yourself and shut the fuck up. It’s clear to me that you need to do less talking and more listening. There’s a reason you’re a caving little bitch and you’re lucky to have Smeds taking an interest in helping you.
He saw you were heading for a cave the first time. He wasn’t chasing you away, he was trying to bring you closer. You didn’t listen the first time. Listen this time.
Boom
I didn’t chase you away. I chased you to stay active! Your response to that led to you leaving, not vice versa! Unfuck your head.
If I didn’t give a fuck about you using the website, why did I berate you to use the website? Do you read your own bullshit?
Pretty pathetic excuse making.. your (re) intro seems to imply some fault of July abandoning you when it was clearly the other way around.
July operated no different than any other group back then. So quit whining about mean old Tom. Being there and getting to 1200 some odd days is a reason to be grateful to you former quit group.. you should be thankful for people willing to watch out for you and have your back. Coming on with an intro that would lead an uninformed persons to think you got abandoned is bullshit and by that attitude I'm not sure you're ready to really quit.
YOU stopped participating. You must remember the price of admission to KTC is a daily promise, bare minimum... You didn't even do that and look where you ended up...
Best of luck to you on your current stoppage, I really hope you make it quit but based on what you've written, combative, excuses and so forth, I don't think so.
(Adding previous post to vortex.. Did it wrong first time)
Huh, well maybe ill re write it then. I want people to read it and know that theres good and bad on this site. I didn't reach out to the good, in fact i just flat out gave up the site. Its not written to cast blame on anyone but myself really.
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There’s no “re-writing” this travesty. You’ve written it, you own it. I’ve got zero issues with what I’ve written, or have ever said to you in the past. Why? Righteousness. That being said,
“I want people to know there’s good and bad on the site”
“It’s not written to cast blame on anyone but myself really”
Head = still fucked.
The sad part is you think you’re “pointing something out” to new quits that will help ... and the only thing you’re pointing out is what happens when you refuse to own your quit. So, in a sick way ... you’re right. Geez ... so simple. Don’t be like you. Good fucking lesson here newbs.
Accountability is a 2-way street. When you stop going down it, but expect everyone to drive all the way down to park in front of your house ... you’ve lost your way. I’ll tell you this, You best honor your brothers in your new group by hitting the floor posting to roll everyday to start your day. Of course, you’ll eventually reach a point where you feel sporadic posting is OK ... and get defensive and petulant about being called out for it, bail and cave again. All roads in your eyes most likely leading back to the mean people who tried to save your quit in the first place ... how very familiar.
Alternatively, you’ll realize that brotherhood here comes with conditions, you’ll honor those conditions without being a bitch, and you’ll remain quit. The choice has always been yours.
BTW, quitting chew doesn’t equate to being “sober”. Look up the word if you have to. Embrace one word and you just may make it.
Not using nicotine in any form = QUIT!
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There’s no “re-writing” this travesty. You’ve written it, you own it. I’ve got zero issues with what I’ve written, or have ever said to you in the past. Why? Righteousness. That being said,
“I want people to know there’s good and bad on the site”
“It’s not written to cast blame on anyone but myself really”
Head = still fucked.
The sad part is you think you’re “pointing something out” to new quits that will help ... and the only thing you’re pointing out is what happens when you refuse to own your quit. So, in a sick way ... you’re right. Geez ... so simple. Don’t be like you. Good fucking lesson here newbs.
Accountability is a 2-way street. When you stop going down it, but expect everyone to drive all the way down to park in front of your house ... you’ve lost your way. I’ll tell you this, You best honor your brothers in your new group by hitting the floor posting to roll everyday to start your day. Of course, you’ll eventually reach a point where you feel sporadic posting is OK ... and get defensive and petulant about being called out for it, bail and cave again. All roads in your eyes most likely leading back to the mean people who tried to save your quit in the first place ... how very familiar.
Alternatively, you’ll realize that brotherhood here comes with conditions, you’ll honor those conditions without being a bitch, and you’ll remain quit. The choice has always been yours.
BTW, quitting chew doesn’t equate to being “sober”. Look up the word if you have to. Embrace one word and you just may make it.
Not using nicotine in any form = QUIT!
Aye maybe its the fog, but i still never said it was your fault. Why is it so god damn unbelievable that there might be flaws in our approach, do you think theres a way this site can have a higher success rate? I see people leaving all the time because they don't like your immature rhetoric. Why not discover the option and adapt? I genuinely want to hear a strong response to this from someone or anyone. Read any leadership book, it will mention that every person is different and responds differently to certain types of leadership. Actually have you heard of Bureaucratic Leadership? Maybe these terms refer to mostly businesses, but i consider this website a business, its in the business of saving lives. Bureaucratic Leadership is rarely effective, but is usually a leader that will reject colleagues or employees strategies that seem non traditional, or threaten the way that they've "always done things."
Why not be smarter than that? Can we not come up with a better strategy for a higher success rate that keeps more people around? Cuz idk about you, but I NEED TO BE HERE. Ive learned that lesson the hard way.
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There’s no “re-writing” this travesty. You’ve written it, you own it. I’ve got zero issues with what I’ve written, or have ever said to you in the past. Why? Righteousness. That being said,
“I want people to know there’s good and bad on the site”
“It’s not written to cast blame on anyone but myself really”
Head = still fucked.
The sad part is you think you’re “pointing something out” to new quits that will help ... and the only thing you’re pointing out is what happens when you refuse to own your quit. So, in a sick way ... you’re right. Geez ... so simple. Don’t be like you. Good fucking lesson here newbs.
Accountability is a 2-way street. When you stop going down it, but expect everyone to drive all the way down to park in front of your house ... you’ve lost your way. I’ll tell you this, You best honor your brothers in your new group by hitting the floor posting to roll everyday to start your day. Of course, you’ll eventually reach a point where you feel sporadic posting is OK ... and get defensive and petulant about being called out for it, bail and cave again. All roads in your eyes most likely leading back to the mean people who tried to save your quit in the first place ... how very familiar.
Alternatively, you’ll realize that brotherhood here comes with conditions, you’ll honor those conditions without being a bitch, and you’ll remain quit. The choice has always been yours.
BTW, quitting chew doesn’t equate to being “sober”. Look up the word if you have to. Embrace one word and you just may make it.
Not using nicotine in any form = QUIT!
Aye maybe its the fog, but i still never said it was your fault. Why is it so god damn unbelievable that there might be flaws in our approach, do you think theres a way this site can have a higher success rate? I see people leaving all the time because they don't like your immature rhetoric. Why not discover the option and adapt? I genuinely want to hear a strong response to this from someone or anyone. Read any leadership book, it will mention that every person is different and responds differently to certain types of leadership. Actually have you heard of Bureaucratic Leadership? Maybe these terms refer to mostly businesses, but i consider this website a business, its in the business of saving lives. Bureaucratic Leadership is rarely effective, but is usually a leader that will reject colleagues or employees strategies that seem non traditional, or threaten the way that they've "always done things."
Why not be smarter than that? Can we not come up with a better strategy for a higher success rate that keeps more people around? Cuz idk about you, but I NEED TO BE HERE. Ive learned that lesson the hard way.
There are other sites that will soften their approach to you so it’s more palatable. Had you glanced around more than 1300 posts in 1200 days, you would’ve picked up on the fact this ain’t that site. Or, it wasn’t. Do you know who wants the soft approach? Your inner addict. He wants to know that somewhere, anywhere down the line ... there’s an out. An out where people won’t jump his shit, where he won’t be held accountable all the time. I mean geez, that’s exhausting!
You should’ve killed that inner addict long ago. You were given every opportunity. Multiple people tried to help. Me mostly, but it wasn’t your inner addict’s flavor. Regardless, you let him win. So far, all your verbal diarrhea typed out proves he’s alive and well.
If you had a little more experience in life ... were a little older, went down this road like others have multiple times, you would realize that the soft approach, or unconditional support is generally what family/loved ones give. Which is also generally shat on by our inner addicts at an alarming rate. It does not work. If it did, we would’ve quit for our family/friends/wives. But we didn’t. We found salvation in a bunch of like-minded individuals (idiots) who understood what addiction was, and understood accountability & brotherhood. Both the good, and the “bad”. These fuckers got me quit, and not by coddling my balls. You lost accountability & brotherhood by your own actions, and look where it got you.
You’ve got zero stance on suggesting WTF a good leader is, until you learn to unfuck your head. You caved. You disrespected your July ‘14 bros by not only following shitty posting habits, but then pushing back when course-corrected. Somehow, this has turned into a “I wasn’t shown proper leadership”? There were other ways to save you from caving, we just couldn’t tap into them properly?
Jesus, you’re hopeless. Own your quit, or it’ll own you again ... and again.
For the record, I’ve helped so many fucking quits you would lose your shit over it. I’ve got dudes who still to this day thank me for showing them the light. Not two, not three ... several. I continue to do so, daily. I’ve got over 75 quitter names in my phone I could and do reach out to, or lend an assist when needed. Can you say the same? No? Then maybe shut the fuck up, stop playing the victim, and own your shit this time.
Lastly, do you really think I get off on dudes like you? That I really have nothing going on but to correct your incorrect thoughts? What about the other dudes who’ve weighed in similarly? They have nothing better to do? Wrong. You’re still that dude thrashing in the water, head about to go under. Our advice is your goddam life ring, and you keep tossing it back. But that’s what QUIT people do when they see an ugly addict drowning. Toss a life ring.
Eventually, that boat will move on. As always, I can’t quit for you.
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I’m not making an excuse, I know full well it was my decision to cave and get loose on roll. I should have reached out to admins to move me to a new group. Instead I thought I could go without one, Which is exactly where I went wrong. I will be posting in both groups as soon as I can find them. Thanks for the reply.
Apparently you think the Admins would've located a group for you where posting WASN'T a priority? You're the biggest fucking victim I've ever had the displeasure of interacting with.
For anyone else reading this travesty ... Daviddimwit was in the July '14 DD's. He received a lot of text reminders from me early on in our quits to get on roll. After a while, I refused to quit FOR him, and stopped pinging him. You'll all get there at some point ... there's a threshold for holding a quitter's hand where after a while it appears you're almost forcing him to quit and stay accountable. After a while, his missing roll multiple times progressed into a much more disgusted tone from the group ... and me especially. This is called HOLDING SOMEONE ACCOUNTABLE for their actions, something we all signed up for. Instead of flipping the switch and righting his ship ... he got pissy. "I should have reached out to admins to move me to a new group" ... wow, so much blame deflecting in one sentence.
We all see where getting pissy and playing the victim got Daviddimwit. Yet, he continues to do so. He actually still believes that due to the actions of a select few he was "forced" to leave the site. Until he unfucks his head, he's destined to repeat history.
YOU decided to make that drive to the convenience store. YOU decided to ask for a tin. YOU decided to go ahead and pay for that tin. YOU decided to lay a fingernail to it, and pop the lid. YOU decided to throw in a fucking disgusting cat turd. YOU decided to continue to do so for what ... near two more years?? All of those decisions were made because a meanie did exactly what they had did from day one, which was hold your ass accountable? It all happened because you "should've asked admins" to move you to a group where dudes didn't require you were on roll?
Get lost with that shit. I truly hope this time around isn't another stoppage for you ... but you're destined for it if you don't flip your script, and NOW.
Own your shit, own your quit ... it's the only thing that works. 1/2-assed attempts will always get 1/2-ass results.
Cool twist on my own cave story smedsy, you’re still a piece of shit human being, you always will be. Never in any of my stories did I say it was any of your faults that I caved, so stop putting your own shit in my cave story. The reason I wrote it up like it is, is if someone is dealing with an immature god complex trash person “leader” like you on this site they can learn from my mistake and not let it discourage them from using this site, because I’m the example of what happens. We get weak when we don’t have accountability, I had no one to reach out to when I was starting to sink. I FUCKED UP! I FUCKIN KNOW I FUCKED UP, and I wrote the story of how I fucked up, and I’ll tell it the same every time.
Actually I’ll reword this part “I was unhappy with SMEDS! He loved to trash other people to build up his quit instead of treat people with respect and inspire through actual effective leadership qualities, tough love is not telling someone they have a pussy and pink panties when they’re 1200 days quit.” Your leadership style is not effective for me, and unless you wana change it, stay far away from my quit.
Based on this, I don't hold much hope for @Daviddim (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=10040) You are still trying to justify yourself.
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By the way @Moderator (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=groups;sa=members;group=2) , or @Administrator (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=groups;sa=members;group=1) (no idea if those tags work) ... don’t dudes get one intro? Here’s his original, or parts of it that still exist:
https://ktcforum.org/index.php?topic=8229.0
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Perfect. A more complete picture with the two intros combined. Daviddimwit, go read through your old intro (now the early pages of this one) See any similarities? You weren’t to blame the first time you caved here either ... it was that damn Postal Service Lady!
Dude, you do nothing but deflect. You type out cute sentences about leadership, and the fact that maybe THAT’S why people fail (like you) ... all while holding onto the fact that you’re not trying to assign blame to anyone else!
I’m dropping a lot of quit on you these last two days ... here’s the most important tip: Look within yourself for leadership of your quit. Stop passing the buck, stop looking for the proper leaders to get you to the promised land. There is no magic pill! There is no easy way!
You have to lead your own quit! Only you can make you fail. Stop fucking victimizing your time here.
Striking similarities between the 2014 version, and the 2020 version. Go read your own intro now that they’ve been combined. Then ... u n f u c k y o u r h e a d !!
My only real hope is that a newbie reads this intro front to back, and grasps what not to do. I doubt you’ll ever get it. But others will.
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I'll repeat this...
He posted earlier this morning knowing he caved last night... "Daviddim - day5!I'm so proud I've made it this far, it really does get easier"
Then... he posted a "whoa is me I cheated 'cuz I got mad" day 1 a few hours later.
He lied on roll.
This should not get a pass.
I pulled this from the first time you tried.
1... I called you on the shit you pulled when you first “quit”. I’ve always lived in the hard ass camp of this site... I’m not a fan of second chances. One and done. Own your shit. Cavers are a taint.
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You lied on roll last time. You should have been banned, imo.
2... You got your second chance. You pissed on it. 1,200 days? What. The. Fuck? That blows my damn mind.
You don’t belong here...