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Title: 33 days in
Post by: RDB on February 23, 2016, 03:11:00 PM
I can't believe it took me 33 days in to find this section in the forums. It's pretty much what I've been looking for.

Here I am more than a month in to my quit. I'm ready to start using KTC to its fullest by involving myself more. I had a weird start. I'm a member of the April pre-HOF group, but when I started I was posting in May, then finally got in with April late. I finally took the initiative of getting digits from 5 members of my group.

Now that I have been posting in Roll regularly, it is the first thing I think of when I wake up. It's just a matter of whether I post from my phone right away, or from my computer after I've gotten to work. It's a lot easier from the computer, but I'm getting better doing it from my phone.

As far as introductions - RDB1972 - RDB are my initials. The R stands for Robert, but I go by Bob. 1972 is my birth year. I had dipped for nearly 25 years. Copenhagen - Kodiak - Grizzly long cut wintergreen. I made the switch from Kodiak to Grizzly when Kodiak hit $5 a can in Michigan. I had been thinking that was about 2006, but I did some looking, and realized it must have been 2004 when the state raised tobacco taxes to make up for a budget shortfall. I'm angered about a lot of things with my addiction, and that just reminded me to be angry about my disproportionate role in helping the state of Michigan cover it budget shortfall. Hopefully now that I've stopped my contribution, they can make ends meet.

I've been contributing to the blog at quit4today.com . I invite you to follow along, but I especially invite you to start your own quitter blog there. I've been posting an entry most days for the past 2 1/2 weeks or so.

As I've mentioned a few times in my blog, this is my fourth serious attempt at a quit. At 33 days, I'm about close to or beyond my previous longest quit. Honestly, this quit feels different. I'm more mature now. I'm ready to be done with it. I felt no outside pressure to stop this time. I'm doing it for myself. Period.

But, I've been reading some of the HOF speeches, and threads here. It looks like many well intentioned quits were caved on day 50, 160, 200, or more. I've finally realized that whether this quit feels different or not, I'm just one bad decision away from ending it all. I need to maintain my confidence in this quit, without becoming arrogant or comfortable.

That's where daily involvement in KTC comes in. I've finally realized that! At first, this site for me was basically a source of information. I posted Roll, but that was basically just to play along. I found the blogs. I already mentioned this in one of my blog posts, but back in 2010, I was up to my eyeballs in credit card debt. I found a personal finance site, and joined. I found the forums there to be really helpful in helping me get out of debt, but it was in the blog section of the site where I really organized my thoughts and developed a plan.

I'm taking the same approach here at KTC. The blogs at quit4today help me keep a more or less unified thought process. I force myself to organize my thoughts, and get them written down. For me it worked in getting out of debt, and it seems to be working keeping me off nicotine.

But I've spent a little more time here in the forums, and see that it's actual people that keep each other accountable to one another. So, I'm ready to become part of that group more now.

I'm going to keep blogging as well, and I really do hope a few of you join me.

Thanks for reading if you got this far.

Bob
Title: Re: 33 days in
Post by: Idaho Spuds on February 23, 2016, 03:49:00 PM
Quote from: RDB1972
I can't believe it took me 33 days in to find this section in the forums. It's pretty much what I've been looking for.

Here I am more than a month in to my quit. I'm ready to start using KTC to its fullest by involving myself more. I had a weird start. I'm a member of the April pre-HOF group, but when I started I was posting in May, then finally got in with April late. I finally took the initiative of getting digits from 5 members of my group.

Now that I have been posting in Roll regularly, it is the first thing I think of when I wake up. It's just a matter of whether I post from my phone right away, or from my computer after I've gotten to work. It's a lot easier from the computer, but I'm getting better doing it from my phone.

As far as introductions - RDB1972 - RDB are my initials. The R stands for Robert, but I go by Bob. 1972 is my birth year. I had dipped for nearly 25 years. Copenhagen - Kodiak - Grizzly long cut wintergreen. I made the switch from Kodiak to Grizzly when Kodiak hit $5 a can in Michigan. I had been thinking that was about 2006, but I did some looking, and realized it must have been 2004 when the state raised tobacco taxes to make up for a budget shortfall. I'm angered about a lot of things with my addiction, and that just reminded me to be angry about my disproportionate role in helping the state of Michigan cover it budget shortfall. Hopefully now that I've stopped my contribution, they can make ends meet.

I've been contributing to the blog at quit4today.com . I invite you to follow along, but I especially invite you to start your own quitter blog there. I've been posting an entry most days for the past 2 1/2 weeks or so.

As I've mentioned a few times in my blog, this is my fourth serious attempt at a quit. At 33 days, I'm about close to or beyond my previous longest quit. Honestly, this quit feels different. I'm more mature now. I'm ready to be done with it. I felt no outside pressure to stop this time. I'm doing it for myself. Period.

But, I've been reading some of the HOF speeches, and threads here. It looks like many well intentioned quits were caved on day 50, 160, 200, or more. I've finally realized that whether this quit feels different or not, I'm just one bad decision away from ending it all. I need to maintain my confidence in this quit, without becoming arrogant or comfortable.

That's where daily involvement in KTC comes in. I've finally realized that! At first, this site for me was basically a source of information. I posted Roll, but that was basically just to play along. I found the blogs. I already mentioned this in one of my blog posts, but back in 2010, I was up to my eyeballs in credit card debt. I found a personal finance site, and joined. I found the forums there to be really helpful in helping me get out of debt, but it was in the blog section of the site where I really organized my thoughts and developed a plan.

I'm taking the same approach here at KTC. The blogs at quit4today help me keep a more or less unified thought process. I force myself to organize my thoughts, and get them written down. For me it worked in getting out of debt, and it seems to be working keeping me off nicotine.

But I've spent a little more time here in the forums, and see that it's actual people that keep each other accountable to one another. So, I'm ready to become part of that group more now.

I'm going to keep blogging as well, and I really do hope a few of you join me.

Thanks for reading if you got this far.

Bob
RDB,
Hey man, I have been following your blog, you are good writer and way to channel the quitting energy towards a positive outlet.
I agree that your self reflection is good make sure to engage your fellow quitters, you will need their support one day and and they will definitely need yours.
Proud to quit with you and keep it up
Idaho Spuds 555 days free!
Title: Re: 33 days in
Post by: worktowin on March 20, 2016, 08:48:00 AM
Quote from: Idaho
Quote from: RDB1972
I can't believe it took me 33 days in to find this section in the forums. It's pretty much what I've been looking for.

Here I am more than a month in to my quit. I'm ready to start using KTC to its fullest by involving myself more. I had a weird start. I'm a member of the April pre-HOF group, but when I started I was posting in May, then finally got in with April late. I finally took the initiative of getting digits from 5 members of my group.

Now that I have been posting in Roll regularly, it is the first thing I think of when I wake up. It's just a matter of whether I post from my phone right away, or from my computer after I've gotten to work. It's a lot easier from the computer, but I'm getting better doing it from my phone.

As far as introductions - RDB1972 - RDB are my initials. The R stands for Robert, but I go by Bob. 1972 is my birth year. I had dipped for nearly 25 years. Copenhagen - Kodiak - Grizzly long cut wintergreen. I made the switch from Kodiak to Grizzly when Kodiak hit $5 a can in Michigan. I had been thinking that was about 2006, but I did some looking, and realized it must have been 2004 when the state raised tobacco taxes to make up for a budget shortfall. I'm angered about a lot of things with my addiction, and that just reminded me to be angry about my disproportionate role in helping the state of Michigan cover it budget shortfall. Hopefully now that I've stopped my contribution, they can make ends meet.

I've been contributing to the blog at quit4today.com . I invite you to follow along, but I especially invite you to start your own quitter blog there. I've been posting an entry most days for the past 2 1/2 weeks or so.

As I've mentioned a few times in my blog, this is my fourth serious attempt at a quit. At 33 days, I'm about close to or beyond my previous longest quit. Honestly, this quit feels different. I'm more mature now. I'm ready to be done with it. I felt no outside pressure to stop this time. I'm doing it for myself. Period.

But, I've been reading some of the HOF speeches, and threads here. It looks like many well intentioned quits were caved on day 50, 160, 200, or more. I've finally realized that whether this quit feels different or not, I'm just one bad decision away from ending it all. I need to maintain my confidence in this quit, without becoming arrogant or comfortable.

That's where daily involvement in KTC comes in. I've finally realized that! At first, this site for me was basically a source of information. I posted Roll, but that was basically just to play along. I found the blogs. I already mentioned this in one of my blog posts, but back in 2010, I was up to my eyeballs in credit card debt. I found a personal finance site, and joined. I found the forums there to be really helpful in helping me get out of debt, but it was in the blog section of the site where I really organized my thoughts and developed a plan.

I'm taking the same approach here at KTC. The blogs at quit4today help me keep a more or less unified thought process. I force myself to organize my thoughts, and get them written down. For me it worked in getting out of debt, and it seems to be working keeping me off nicotine.

But I've spent a little more time here in the forums, and see that it's actual people that keep each other accountable to one another. So, I'm ready to become part of that group more now.

I'm going to keep blogging as well, and I really do hope a few of you join me.

Thanks for reading if you got this far.

Bob
RDB,
Hey man, I have been following your blog, you are good writer and way to channel the quitting energy towards a positive outlet.
I agree that your self reflection is good make sure to engage your fellow quitters, you will need their support one day and and they will definitely need yours.
Proud to quit with you and keep it up
Idaho Spuds 555 days free!
Hi Bob.

You are going this the right way. I've seen you replying to a lot of intros and making a lot of connections. That is the best way to build accountability.

Your story and mine are similar, except I never switched to Grizzly. 25 years Kodiak here. How you physically and mentally feel now is not the new normal. Brighter days are ahead. Every day is a giant win, and soon the results of those wins will be apparent. The craves you are feeling now are reminders of winning after 25 years of losing. The new Bob will be happier, healthier, and able to devote more time to family, friends, work... Whatever drives you... And none to maintaining an addiction.

It is an honor to quit with you today sir.
Title: Re: 33 days in
Post by: RDB on March 20, 2016, 01:06:00 PM
My thread has been resurrected, so I'll go with it. I had my first extremely vivid cave dream last night. I woke up sure that I had caved. I was working on going out to my pick up to dump my can when I realized it was a dream.

I've read of others describing these vivid cave dreams; I guess it was my turn. Hope it doesn't happen again.
Title: Re: 33 days in
Post by: eyehatecope on March 21, 2016, 06:06:00 AM
Quote from: RDB1972
My thread has been resurrected, so I'll go with it. I had my first extremely vivid cave dream last night. I woke up sure that I had caved. I was working on going out to my pick up to dump my can when I realized it was a dream.

I've read of others describing these vivid cave dreams; I guess it was my turn. Hope it doesn't happen again.
Day 226 here. I had a the most realistic dip dream a few weeks ago, I woke up in tears. They seem and feel real as life itself but, they aren't nothing but the nic trying to tempt/trick us into returning. I quit with you today.
Title: Re: 33 days in
Post by: RDB on March 23, 2016, 08:40:00 AM
My youngest son has cerebral palsy and epilepsy. I brought him, alone, to a Detroit area hospital 1.75 hours away for a scheduled EEG (brain scan). My wife stayed back to take care of our other kids.

My son has several Detroit area medical visits each year. I drive him to most of them.

I'm in waiting right now. The entire drive here, waiting during the procedure, the drive back home. No dip. A first.
Title: Re: 33 days in
Post by: MonsterMedic on March 23, 2016, 09:25:00 AM
Quote from: RDB1972
My youngest son has cerebral palsy and epilepsy. I brought him, alone, to a Detroit area hospital 1.75 hours away for a scheduled EEG (brain scan). My wife stayed back to take care of our other kids.

My son has several Detroit area medical visits each year. I drive him to most of them.

I'm in waiting right now. The entire drive here, waiting during the procedure, the drive back home. No dip. A first.
Prayers that the scans go alright.

And what an awesome victory!
Title: Re: 33 days in
Post by: Dagranger on March 23, 2016, 07:27:00 PM
Quote from: MonsterEMT
Quote from: RDB1972
My youngest son has cerebral palsy and epilepsy. I brought him, alone, to a Detroit area hospital 1.75 hours away for a scheduled EEG (brain scan). My wife stayed back to take care of our other kids.

My son has several Detroit area medical visits each year. I drive him to most of them.

I'm in waiting right now. The entire drive here, waiting during the procedure, the drive back home. No dip. A first.
Prayers that the scans go alright.

And what an awesome victory!
I found it took me well over a year to get all my "firsts" out of the way. Each time I'd get the crazy joneses for dip and it would always take me a while to figure out what triggered it. Always nice to slay another dragon. Keep quitting and best of luck with the health of your kid.
Title: Re: 33 days in
Post by: RDB on March 23, 2016, 07:40:00 PM
Quote from: Dagranger
Quote from: MonsterEMT
Quote from: RDB1972
My youngest son has cerebral palsy and epilepsy. I brought him, alone, to a Detroit area hospital 1.75 hours away for a scheduled EEG (brain scan). My wife stayed back to take care of our other kids.

My son has several Detroit area medical visits each year. I drive him to most of them.

I'm in waiting right now. The entire drive here, waiting during the procedure, the drive back home. No dip. A first.
Prayers that the scans go alright.

And what an awesome victory!
I found it took me well over a year to get all my "firsts" out of the way. Each time I'd get the crazy joneses for dip and it would always take me a while to figure out what triggered it. Always nice to slay another dragon. Keep quitting and best of luck with the health of your kid.
Thanks for the words of encouragement. The EEG was routine. He gets one each year so his neurologist can keep track of his brain activity. Everything went fine.

And I'm still quit.
Title: Re: 33 days in
Post by: RDB on March 25, 2016, 03:14:00 PM
I've been Quit 64 days. I'm still chewing gum like crazy. I'm chewing two or three pieces at a time, even four sometimes. I'm almost always chewing gum.

I like to snap the gum, and I think that bothers my wife more than the dip did.

I've always been an extreme oral fixative. Elementary teachers gave me grief for chewing on my pencils.

I've Quit the nicotine, but it seems my psychological hang-up of always having something in my mouth is here to stay.
Title: Re: 33 days in
Post by: RDB on April 02, 2016, 09:23:00 AM
Can anyone advise me on the legal ramifications of an adult male beating to near death a 14 yo male with a baseball bat and/or a 16" chunk of 2X4? The 14yo has threatened the purity of the adult male's 13yo daughter.

Asking for a friend.
Title: Re: 33 days in
Post by: mattlock on April 02, 2016, 10:24:00 AM
Quote from: RDB1972
Can anyone advise me on the legal ramifications of an adult male beating to near death a 14 yo male with a baseball bat and/or a 16" chunk of 2X4? The 14yo has threatened the purity of the adult male's 13yo daughter.

Asking for a friend.
I just play a lawyer on TV so I can't speak to the legal specifics but i imagine it's not going to go well in today's pussified society. Especially with a minor as the victim.

As the father of 4 daughters, I can only say good luck. Keep your powder dry, you've still got a long road ahead of you.
Title: Re: 33 days in
Post by: RDB on April 17, 2016, 06:53:00 AM
My jaw ached again yesterday. Weird. Out of nowhere, and not for very long. But just like I was at day 20 again.
Title: Re: 33 days in
Post by: worktowin on April 18, 2016, 06:32:00 AM
Quote from: RDB1972
My jaw ached again yesterday. Weird. Out of nowhere, and not for very long. But just like I was at day 20 again.
Some great days ahead. Like you haven't felt in a long time. Keep the faith.
Title: Re: 33 days in
Post by: kubiackalpha on April 18, 2016, 03:07:00 PM
Quote from: mattlock
Quote from: RDB1972
Can anyone advise me on the legal ramifications of an adult male beating to near death a 14 yo male with a baseball bat and/or a 16" chunk of 2X4? The 14yo has threatened the purity of the adult male's 13yo daughter.

Asking for a friend.
I just play a lawyer on TV so I can't speak to the legal specifics but i imagine it's not going to go well in today's pussified society. Especially with a minor as the victim.

As the father of 4 daughters, I can only say good luck. Keep your powder dry, you've still got a long road ahead of you.
How did this turn out or turning out? I am interested. In Oklahoma they have a law that is someone threatens your family you can defend them, it is a little more complicated for Minors but it is still there. It is nicknamed the Yo Momma law (No Joke). We also have a Within an inch of your life law that is all about defense of self when some one sufficiently threatens you (I have used before).
Title: Re: 33 days in
Post by: RDB on April 18, 2016, 04:34:00 PM
To fill in some blanks - my wife intercepts my daughters text messages. The 14yo lives across the road. I've known his dad (J) my entire life. I showed J the texts, and let him know that this crap had to stop. J heartily agreed with me. J assured me that he would do his part in making sure it was taken care of, and I trust that he will (has).

My daughter doesn't want anything to do with it. They (my daughter and 14 yo neighbor boy) have always been buddies, but he wanted a little more. A lot more. It angers and saddens me that she was put in the situation.
Title: Re: 33 days in
Post by: RDB on May 26, 2016, 03:47:00 PM
Turns out I'm just as sloppy with getting gum all over the place as I was with getting Grizzly all over the place. Gum is less gross but more sticky. My six yo is also getting into it and making a mess.

So, four months in to my quit, it's time to quit the mental/oral fixative part of my addiction.

Proud to quit with all of you.
Title: Re: 33 days in
Post by: Rawls on May 27, 2016, 12:11:00 AM
Great intro brother.
Drop the gum. Don't need it.
Move to Texas.
Legal here to cut the child boy and send him to California.
Serious.
We are all called to achieve beyond our abilities.
And YOU sir are winning the race.
Above the others....
And for a reason someday only you will understand.
We...and you... win...ODAAT.
Im here to quit with you today.
Respect you and the life you have been graciously given.
Cups are half empty..or half full?
Yours is over flowing.
Rawls 556
Title: Re: 33 days in
Post by: RDB on December 22, 2017, 02:21:00 PM
Merry Christmas KTC community.

Here I am, quit 701 days, and I still crave the crap. Nearly every single day. No, theyÂ’re not strong craves. More like an annoying mosquito buzz.

IÂ’m glad I made my promise this morning. Tobacco is off the table for the rest of today.

But I really thought IÂ’d be further along almost two years into my quit. But, alas, IÂ’m still a junkie. Just a clean junkie.
Title: Re: 33 days in
Post by: ChickDip on December 22, 2017, 05:22:00 PM
Quote from: RDB
Merry Christmas KTC community.

Here I am, quit 701 days, and I still crave the crap. Nearly every single day. No, theyÂ’re not strong craves. More like an annoying mosquito buzz.

IÂ’m glad I made my promise this morning. Tobacco is off the table for the rest of today.

But I really thought IÂ’d be further along almost two years into my quit. But, alas, IÂ’m still a junkie. Just a clean junkie.
CONGRATS on your 700+++++!
proud to quit with you!
Title: Re: 33 days in
Post by: RDB on March 21, 2018, 10:05:00 AM
In posting this, I'm admitting how big a slob I am. But I'm guessing a lot of us were slobs when it came to dipping.

In a couple of weeks, I'll be changing locations for work. So, I need to clean out my office. Including the drawer where I had my dip bottles and cans. I cleaned out the bottles and cans months ago. But, the particles and splashes have never been cleaned.

To say it's gross would be an understatement. Apparently I wasn't too good at hitting my spitters, because there are spit particles and spit splashes up the wazoo. And, the stink. Stink I haven't smelled since I quit.

It's embarrassing and disgusting.
Title: Re: 33 days in
Post by: Doofus on March 21, 2018, 10:22:00 AM
Quote from: kubiackalpha
Quote from: mattlock
Quote from: RDB1972
Can anyone advise me on the legal ramifications of an adult male beating to near death a 14 yo male with a baseball bat and/or a 16" chunk of 2X4? The 14yo has threatened the purity of the adult male's 13yo daughter.

Asking for a friend.
I just play a lawyer on TV so I can't speak to the legal specifics but i imagine it's not going to go well in today's pussified society. Especially with a minor as the victim.

As the father of 4 daughters, I can only say good luck. Keep your powder dry, you've still got a long road ahead of you.
How did this turn out or turning out? I am interested. In Oklahoma they have a law that is someone threatens your family you can defend them, it is a little more complicated for Minors but it is still there. It is nicknamed the Yo Momma law (No Joke). We also have a Within an inch of your life law that is all about defense of self when some one sufficiently threatens you (I have used before).
Proud to quit with you man, Skoal LC Mint was my poison for most of the 30 years I TRIED to kill myself.....I am 67 days, finding good support by posting and interacting with other quitters, I'm learning and it feels powerful....most of my physical manifestions of addiction are gone....some triggers here or there....ODAT, proud to quit today with you.

...as far as young boys, they arent men, scare them, for real, I got two daughters....I've recently informed one of these little bastards, "Boy, Don't do anything to my daughter that you do not want me doing to you.....son, Im serious, do not make me hurt you permanently."
Title: Re: 33 days in
Post by: RDB on August 14, 2020, 02:02:54 PM
I've filed for divorce from my wife. For those of you who have been through a divorce I'd like to hear your stories - the good, bad, and the ugly. TIA.
Title: Re: 33 days in
Post by: Skolvikings on August 14, 2020, 03:20:21 PM
I've filed for divorce from my wife. For those of you who have been through a divorce I'd like to hear your stories - the good, bad, and the ugly. TIA.

Sorry to hear that brother, I pray I never experience that.  Maybe there is some useful stuff here https://ktcforum.org/index.php?topic=280.0