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Title: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on September 17, 2018, 03:35:21 PM
early days of this intro can be found here https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/qs_xtreme/69franx-t12254.html (https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/qs_xtreme/69franx-t12254.html)
new additions will be added as replies from now on, thanx for reading
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on September 17, 2018, 03:40:20 PM
Day 413, 59 weeks, 3 website used in the last 4 days to post roll.
Its been a trying couple of days for lots of folks, but I was already familiar with Tapatalk, so I was able to find my way through it. We have moved again and are now with simple machines. This is another platform I am accustomed to, so again, no issues for me. If you are reading this, you are likely not having trouble with the new fit and function of the KTC quit forums. If you are still having trouble or know someone who is, reach out to me via pm or email through the system. If you just need  another quit brick in your wall of accountability, reach out, I can always use another new number, another quitter to help keep me accountable. I can promise you this, reaching out to an "internet stranger" in your time of need is a better solution than putting that crap back into your mouth again. You can cave when you have my permission, good luck with that. Quit on, Stay strong, stay quit
Title: New Post
Post by: Glenn Darr on September 17, 2018, 03:42:38 PM
Hope I did this right!

So I guess today is the day. Ill put my story in my new intro in case I messed this up some how.

Day 1................
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on September 24, 2018, 12:58:52 PM
Day 420, 60 weeks of quit! 60 weeks!

     Find myself today at work playing around on the computer, checking email and following up on the week's issues.
     I realize at some point that I am playing with my own "fidget spinner."
     It is the ring from the top of a 20oz Gatorade bottle. From the last spitter I used. These used to be my favorite spitters: wide mouth, large volume, good sealing lid, sat tightly and securely in the truck's cup holders.
     This fucking little piece of plastic has been sitting on my desk for well over 60 weeks, and has even moved when our office moved! (What the actual Fuck?)
     I think somewhere in the back of my mind, the nic bitch had me keep this stupid little piece of plastic around as a memory of the "fun" we used to have. Hoping it would help her sneak back in.
     I tossed over 4 cans worth of chew when I quit 60 weeks ago, really without a second thought, but somehow this stupid little plastic ring stayed for all 60 weeks, and only today did I make the connection.
     Its been said before: cut all ties, burns your boats, don't romanticize your addiction to nicotine, clear out all your cans, all your spitters, etc yet somehow I still clung to this stupid piece of plastic.
Fuck that, its in the garbage now, gone for good, never to be seen again.
NO MORE!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on October 01, 2018, 12:34:00 PM
We are doing a fundraising walk in support of the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention (AFSP) on Oct 14th around Cincinnati. If you would like to join and walk with us or make a donation, please click on the below link:
TEAM NOLAN (https://afsp.donordrive.com/participant/1651571)
Thanx for all the support back in April when we lost our 20 year old son to suicide, this is just one more thing we are doing to try to help others avoid such a tragedy. Anything and everything helps.
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on October 16, 2018, 03:36:07 PM
Today one of the quitters that I have met caved.
He did not call anyone of the 100 plus contacts he has for help.
He did not use the tools available here.
He chose to cave.
He thought it was a better choice than dealing with life's troubles nicotine free.
He should have called someone and gotten permission to cave.
He should have reached out and asked for help.
He should have chosen freedom.
He was wrong.
Do not let his failure change your course.
He has failed a couple times now after trying to quit.
Stop trying to quit and just quit!
Its been said before "It's hard to quit and its simple to quit"
Are you going to close the door on nicotine or will you let her sell you some bullshit when life's troubles come for you?
Every day a choice is made about quitting.
Every day someone takes down a mark.
Will you be the one winning, or will you be the mark with a lip full of shit?
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on October 22, 2018, 01:44:10 PM
448/64 weeks of quitting the KTC way.
I have seen a lot of people cave in that time.
I have seen a lot of people bitch and moan in that time.
If you do not like what we do here, why do you stay?
Are you just argumentative?
Are you better than those of us who need the daily accountability?
Are you better than those of us who need to make our promise early to take nicotine off the table for the day?
Do you have a better plan than what is offered here?
Again, if you have a better plan, why are you here?
Wake up
Piss
Post
One
Day
At
A
Time
Every
Damn
Day.
Just make it happen!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Broccoli-saurus on October 24, 2018, 12:17:18 PM
Did Leo hold a class on posting shit on KTC and not invite me? 

Btw, I like the way you set this up with a link to the old shit.  I'm going to copy that.  A lot of my story includes the commentary from others and I don't want to lose that.  Worktowin and others...it's been a long crazy ride and I'm so glad to be quit with you brother. 
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on October 24, 2018, 03:01:42 PM
Was it Leo or Gregor that always posts that way?
Sometimes it just makes sense.
Easier to emphasize what you're trying to say.
Your intro looks great too now.
Thanx for stopping by.
I am on my laptop, otherwise, I would have hit the Like button for your post here and your intro as well
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Broccoli-saurus on October 24, 2018, 04:08:40 PM
Was it Leo or Gregor that always posts that way?
Sometimes it just makes sense.
Easier to emphasize what you're trying to say.
Your intro looks great too now.
Thanx for stopping by.
I am on my laptop, otherwise, I would have hit the Like button for your post here and your intro as well

It is
Leo
That
Always Posted
Like A
Retard in
This Manner.

Hard to believe
That MIKER didn't
Al-
so
Post like
this.

But I'd not
have
EXPeCteD
it from
u.

But seriously, you're the best, Franx.
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on October 26, 2018, 08:38:09 PM
Crazy days
Crazy days
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on October 29, 2018, 11:15:54 AM
Day 455 or 65 weeks of quitting the KTC way

Fairly easy week of quitting for me, and was asked to become a moderator on Friday. I guess I am doing something right. Very proud to be asked.

Hearing about another cave from someone who drifted away after HOF, an August 18 former quitter. When will people accept the fact that we are all addicts  and complacency kills quits. If you are not actively quitting, EDD, you are destined to drift and likely fail in your attempt at quitting. It doesnt take much effort to be present here and make your promise. Isn't your quit worth the 30 seconds a day it takes to make your promise? Isn't your promise a strong way to keep your quit in the front and center of your focus? I'll end the same way as last week, for Broc's sake:
Wake up
Piss
Post
One
Day
At
A
Time
Every
damn
Day.
Just make it happen!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on October 31, 2018, 04:25:48 PM
     I cAnnot Express the disappointment in another failed quit from a contact, especially the day before his group starts boarding the train.
     If you have made connections, dont use them, and then cave; I have to imagine that you never intended to follow through with this program. 86 days and you cave, then text. How do you not know how this works after being here for over 12 weeks? You post and ghost,  that's how.  Fucking get involved. Posting your promise is merely the first step in fortifying your quit. You have to interact, you have to live the quit. You have to prioritize your quit higher than you think. Nicotine was a huge priority for us all in the past, with nothing getting in the way of a fix. Why let anything come between you and your quit. In your first 100 days, if you're not actively quitting, you're headed for a cave.
     Proper Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance. The 6 Ps of success. Quitting takes planning. Quitting takes effort.

QUITTING TAKES PRECEDENCE over almost everything if you want it to last
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on November 06, 2018, 01:45:48 PM
Day 463, election day, 2 days post Browns game meat up In Cleveland.
Had to take yesterday off to recover from the meat up, after driving 4-5 hours hung over.
So in regards to the meat up...
     If you have the chance to meat fellow quitters, do it
     Don't be too afraid unless its a drunken vegetable, and even then, he's awfully damn cool!
     Meat up are such a great way to strengthen your quit, and add to your accountability pool.
     After having done a couple other smaller, fairly random meat ups, it was great to go to Cleveland (my old stomping grounds) and meet some truly great quitters: Broccoli-Saurus, Clemte, ClevelandFan, Chewie, BillW21, Miker0351(for a second time, great to hang with him again,) CLEalt. We had a blast and are already talking about trying to do it again, maybe for a road Browns game. Maybe November 25th for Browns @ Bengals?
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on November 26, 2018, 01:27:34 PM
Day 483, 69 weeks of quit for 69franx!

Day 500 is coming up, as long as I continue to WUPPEDD ODAAT. I have ordered a 500 day chip, and believe it will be delivered today. I will not be opeing it until that day, but with the holidays and all, I wanted to make sure to have it on hand on time. For a mere $7, it will help mark this big day; Half comma, almost 1.5 years free of nicotine.
This chip will get added to my growing collection: ReWire bought me my HOF coin and I bought a back up coin just in case. I never leave home without that first coin in my pocket. It is a daily reminder of what I am doing, who I want to be, and where I came from.
Broccoli-Saurus bought a 200 day chip for me as well as a KTC thong (that since since been passed along at least twice(do you still have it Jedi1991?)
I bought a one year chip as well.
For less than the cost of a couple cans of grizzly, I have some lasting mementos of my quit journey.
If you are thinking about a coin or a chip for the appropriate time or day count, I highly recommend just doing it. Make it happen
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on December 05, 2018, 11:36:00 AM
492/2
That 2 is 2 days with no coffee, soda, or anything I knew of that contained Caffeine.
I have had a headache since I woke up on Monday (really did not have much/any caffeine on Sunday, but was not an intentional choice)
Also working towards a DASH diet to lower my blood pressure. Its been high for years, but is still too high even after being nic free for 492 days
Obviously, this week has been a struggle, and its only Wednesday
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on December 13, 2018, 08:50:11 AM
500/11
500 days nic free.
500 days worth of dip money not spent on dip
500 days of getting to know the badass quitters here at KTC
500 days and really just getting back to what I think normal must be.
Thank you all so much
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Skolvikings on December 13, 2018, 12:34:17 PM
Look at you stud muffin on 500 days of Freedom.

You are a great quitter and man, proud to be going down these paths with you my friend.
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on December 13, 2018, 01:18:59 PM
Look at you stud muffin on 500 days of Freedom.

You are a great quitter and man, proud to be going down these paths with you my friend.
Thanx brother, damn proud to be quit with you as well
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on February 25, 2019, 01:58:59 PM
Damn, 74 days between posts!
Had to dig back to page 6 to even find myself!
Not much new to add about my quit, but wanted to get back in here because of life.
Posted earlier today in June 2019 that life will come up during your final quit (that is what it should be, final.)
What will you do when life hands you shit you do not want?
We got the big C (fuck that, she wants it called cancer!) diagnosis for the fiance last Monday and been on pins and needles for a week now trying to await the results of an MRI in order to plan out the fight against Cancer.
I am still nic free because I knew life would happen, and I vowed to not let the good or the bad allow me to think that nicotine could ease any of the pain.
I choose to remain free, even when things look dim.
I take a lot of inspiration (as so many do) in Traumagnet's (https://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?topic=564.0) fight that he so diligently outlined for us in his intro. He never gave up when told he was beyond the point of no return, why would I ever give in in  a less dire situation?
Really just wanted to say, despite all my trials, and because of my determination to enjoy this newfound freedom, I AM PROUD TO QUIT WITH ALL OF YOU AGAIN TODAY!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Broccoli-saurus on February 25, 2019, 05:07:30 PM
You're one of the greatest inspirations to me and my quit, Franx.  Fight this.  Fight the hell out of it.  Glad to have met you both, broke bread, and more....a great couple you are.  I've sent many prayers and thoughts up for you guys.  Love y'all. 
Title: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on August 07, 2017, 10:38:00 AM
Site moves and replacing this, has put some posts out of order. This is my original first post in my intro. Sorry for any confusion

So one week out of the can today. Just getting to an introduction. Thanks to all who have shared their experiences about their quit.
I had my first dip back in eighth grade 1983/1984 or so. I begged and bummed dips when people had it around me for the next 24 years. I started buying my own in 2008 after getting free samples at the Cleveland Air show and been hooked ever since. I mainly chewed pouches, as loose was tougher to hide from the kids and boss/es. Regularly chewed a little over a can a day of Grizzly wintergreen pouches. I bought my last roll on Sunday July 30th. On July 31st, I got another message popped up into my feed from KTC on facebook. It was the third or fourth message that mysteriously appeared in my feed in the last couple weeks. It was the message about "you did not wind up on our site by mistake, somewhere deep down you want to quit..." or something like that. At that point, I threw the full can plus 2 pouches into my trash at office and the other 3 remaining cans once i got home also went into the trash. Today will be my 7th day clean and free of nicotine. This site has been a big help. i actually joined back in January of 2012 and obviously did not commit. I have stopped a few times, once for 14 months, but always fell back into the habit. I think the main reason was that I really did not want to be quit. This time I will be quit for life, as I want to be quit for life; its not for anyone but me and its what I want. I am strong enough to get through whatever that nicotine bitch can send my way, with your help. Just ordered some Smokey mountain (have not had or used any alternatives in the last week) as the quiet times at my desk or home in front of the tube are when the urge really strikes. Outside of work, I plan on getting back into working out regularly, kayaking, and bicycling to help fill some of the down time. Once again, thanx to all for the support and messages. Anyone who needs some support, pm me and we can exchange numbers.

Stay strong brothers and sisters,
Frank
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Swilson on August 07, 2017, 03:14:00 PM
Looking forward to quitting with you! We can do this together ! Those quiet times can be tough, or the car... I will shoot you a PM and we will kick this shit for good.

Scott
Chicago
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Thumblewort on August 08, 2017, 10:34:00 AM
Glad your back, but understand you and I share an addiction, not a habit. Understanding the difference will help you a lot in this daily fight.
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on August 11, 2017, 05:02:00 PM
Day 11 and come home from work to find my Smokey Mountain order, here to keep me quit for the weekend. Perfect timing! Thanks to all who support the November Nicotine (I guess it is Nutbusters right now)
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: worktowin on August 11, 2017, 05:09:00 PM
Quote from: 69Franx
Day 11 and come home from work to find my Smokey Mountain order, here to keep me quit for the weekend. Perfect timing! Thanks to all who support the November Nicotine (I guess it is Nutbusters right now)
The January 2012 Jackwagins are a BAD ASS group. I would encourage you to post with them daily. Some of those guys are the reason I'm quit today, posting 1,692 this morning. They can offer you advice, support, and accountability like only the best of vets can do.

Make this count. You'll never have to relive the past 11 days again...
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on August 11, 2017, 10:52:00 PM
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: 69Franx
Day 11 and come home from work to find my Smokey Mountain order, here to keep me quit for the weekend. Perfect timing! Thanks to all who support the November Nicotine (I guess it is Nutbusters right now)
The January 2012 Jackwagins are a BAD ASS group. I would encourage you to post with them daily. Some of those guys are the reason I'm quit today, posting 1,692 this morning. They can offer you advice, support, and accountability like only the best of vets can do.

Make this count. You'll never have to relive the past 11 days again...
Thanx, I will have to look them up tomorrow. I do see that I posted once back in 2012 on January 19, for my 19th day quit. None before, none after. I apologize again. I know I abused the potential help here back then. I am not doing that this time. I will seek out the Jackwaggins(so?)
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: B-loMatt on August 12, 2017, 08:28:00 AM
I think the main reason was that I really did not want to be quit. This time I will be quit for life, as I want to be quit for life; its not for anyone but me and its what I want.


That right there is huge! The single biggest factor in overcoming addiction is you. If you want to be free bad enough, and you want it for you alone, then you can fight through all the b/s and be QUIT. Accountability helps maintain your resolve, and all the little tricks that people have used to help get through the b/s can make the fight easier, but once you want to be quit for good then you can break free. Keep killing it!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on August 14, 2017, 02:58:00 PM
Day 14, this is huge. 2 weeks with no nicotine. I am so thankful for the support here on KTC; both the kind words and the "get your shit together words." All have been helpful. Special thanks go out to @CBird65 (not sure if that notifies him or not) for all his support. If you have read my intro, you know I joined way back in 2012 and then ghosted for 5.5 years until I wanted to quit for me. Today, I looked back through my inbox and found the 2 PMs I received back in 2012. One was from CBird offering support and education about the site and how to use it. He has posted several times in our Nov 17 Pre-HOF thread and recently invited me to post back in 2012 again. He has also PMd me with some great links on what to read and how to make this last. The second PM i got back then was from Keddy that at the time probably looked like a generic welcome to the site kind of message from an admin, but now I realize that it was more about him trying to help me. Big thanks to both of them for reaching out almost immediately back in 2012 and my sincerest apologies for not taking advantage of the help they offered. i have said it here in my intro thread, on our roll thread, and in PM to several new members of the November Nicotine Nutbustes, if you need help, someone to talk to, someone to talk you out of caving, PM your number or ask for mine. This site works for those that work the site. Get the help you/we need, don't let temptation take over and give in to a cave. If it becomes a close call, read that contract to cave and think about what it means or would mean to have to actually give that signed contract to those you care about, just not more than nicotine. Rant/ramble over, thanks again to all who have reached out to help me with my quit
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Swilson on August 14, 2017, 05:14:00 PM
Quote from: 69Franx
Day 14, this is huge. 2 weeks with no nicotine. I am so thankful for the support here on KTC; both the kind words and the "get your shit together words." All have been helpful. Special thanks go out to @CBird65 (not sure if that notifies him or not) for all his support. If you have read my intro, you know I joined way back in 2012 and then ghosted for 5.5 years until I wanted to quit for me. Today, I looked back through my inbox and found the 2 PMs I received back in 2012. One was from CBird offering support and education about the site and how to use it. He has posted several times in our Nov 17 Pre-HOF thread and recently invited me to post back in 2012 again. He has also PMd me with some great links on what to read and how to make this last. The second PM i got back then was from Keddy that at the time probably looked like a generic welcome to the site kind of message from an admin, but now I realize that it was more about him trying to help me. Big thanks to both of them for reaching out almost immediately back in 2012 and my sincerest apologies for not taking advantage of the help they offered. i have said it here in my intro thread, on our roll thread, and in PM to several new members of the November Nicotine Nutbustes, if you need help, someone to talk to, someone to talk you out of caving, PM your number or ask for mine. This site works for those that work the site. Get the help you/we need, don't let temptation take over and give in to a cave. If it becomes a close call, read that contract to cave and think about what it means or would mean to have to actually give that signed contract to those you care about, just not more than nicotine. Rant/ramble over, thanks again to all who have reached out to help me with my quit
Giddy up Frank welcome 2 weeks !! I will not let you catch up to me ever but i will do everything i can to make sure you are right behind me !
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: pky1520 on August 14, 2017, 05:39:00 PM
Quote from: Swilson
Quote from: 69Franx
Day 14, this is huge. 2 weeks with no nicotine. I am so thankful for the support here on KTC; both the kind words and the "get your shit together words." All have been helpful. Special thanks go out to @CBird65 (not sure if that notifies him or not) for all his support. If you have read my intro, you know I joined way back in 2012 and then ghosted for 5.5 years until I wanted to quit for me. Today, I looked back through my inbox and found the 2 PMs I received back in 2012. One was from CBird offering support and education about the site and how to use it. He has posted several times in our Nov 17 Pre-HOF thread and recently invited me to post back in 2012 again. He has also PMd me with some great links on what to read and how to make this last. The second PM i got back then was from Keddy that at the time probably looked like a generic welcome to the site kind of message from an admin, but now I realize that it was more about him trying to help me. Big thanks to both of them for reaching out almost immediately back in 2012 and my sincerest apologies for not taking advantage of the help they offered. i have said it here in my intro thread, on our roll thread, and in PM to several new members of the November Nicotine Nutbustes, if you need help, someone to talk to, someone to talk you out of caving, PM your number or ask for mine. This site works for those that work the site. Get the help you/we need, don't let temptation take over and give in to a cave. If it becomes a close call, read that contract to cave and think about what it means or would mean to have to actually give that signed contract to those you care about, just not more than nicotine. Rant/ramble over, thanks again to all who have reached out to help me with my quit
Giddy up Frank welcome 2 weeks !! I will not let you catch up to me ever but i will do everything i can to make sure you are right behind me !
Glad to see you making it happen Franx!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: TBONE7 on August 15, 2017, 11:38:00 AM
Quote from: pky1520
Quote from: Swilson
Quote from: 69Franx
Day 14, this is huge. 2 weeks with no nicotine. I am so thankful for the support here on KTC; both the kind words and the "get your shit together words." All have been helpful. Special thanks go out to @CBird65 (not sure if that notifies him or not) for all his support. If you have read my intro, you know I joined way back in 2012 and then ghosted for 5.5 years until I wanted to quit for me. Today, I looked back through my inbox and found the 2 PMs I received back in 2012. One was from CBird offering support and education about the site and how to use it. He has posted several times in our Nov 17 Pre-HOF thread and recently invited me to post back in 2012 again. He has also PMd me with some great links on what to read and how to make this last. The second PM i got back then was from Keddy that at the time probably looked like a generic welcome to the site kind of message from an admin, but now I realize that it was more about him trying to help me. Big thanks to both of them for reaching out almost immediately back in 2012 and my sincerest apologies for not taking advantage of the help they offered. i have said it here in my intro thread, on our roll thread, and in PM to several new members of the November Nicotine Nutbustes, if you need help, someone to talk to, someone to talk you out of caving, PM your number or ask for mine. This site works for those that work the site. Get the help you/we need, don't let temptation take over and give in to a cave. If it becomes a close call, read that contract to cave and think about what it means or would mean to have to actually give that signed contract to those you care about, just not more than nicotine. Rant/ramble over, thanks again to all who have reached out to help me with my quit
Giddy up Frank welcome 2 weeks !! I will not let you catch up to me ever but i will do everything i can to make sure you are right behind me !
Glad to see you making it happen Franx!
Great mile stone keep up the good work!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on August 15, 2017, 12:50:00 PM
Thanx TBONE7, cant say I will ever let you catch up to my count, but you can get back here to 15. ODAATEDD. Make it happen
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on August 18, 2017, 07:18:00 AM
Day 18, we seem to have lost another of the Nov Quitters. Same story: party, alcohol, peer pressure=cave. Have not heard from the caver, but rumor has it, it was a vape pen. Really, caving with that crap? Stay strong, get better connected with fellow brothers. Work the program, support, WUPPEDD, etc.
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on August 21, 2017, 01:08:00 PM
21 days/ 3 weeks in. Feeling very strong about my quit now. Reading a ton on the site (if you have not visited the question thread in Wildcard, and you could use a good laugh, then check it out)
I spent week 1 cold turkey, but have been using some SMS over the last 2 weeks. The pouches are a bit small, but familiar as that is what I usually chewed. The loose stuff packs like crap and was an all over mess. Tried several varieties: straight, classic, wintergreen, and citrus. Think the citrus was the best tasting, but still a mess. Have some grinds pouches on order coming in this week to check out.
Last post I made in here was about another caver. He caved, came back, answered his 3 questions, posted days 12 then decided to leave the site and be quit on his own. His cave received a ton of back lash that he felt was just negativity for negativity's sake. His feelings reminded me of what I saw on here when I first joined back in 2012. I did not want to take all that abuse, and see that negativity. Now that I am back in the quit groove, I really do see the attack as a big part of the process for someone who caves. Get mad at yourself for allowing people to have a reason to give you a hard time about caving. They did not cave, you did, own it, fix it, rinse, repeat. When I came back at the beginning of the month, I started posting, without really checking out the site and understanding the program. I made some poorly informed statements and ate a lot of shit for those statements. In that instance, I was right where he was, pissed off at the world for abusing me and I almost gave up on the site for a second time. Then I had a moment of clarity as I described above: I realized that I was the source of my pain, not the comments directed towards me. If I had not done what I did, or said what I said, there would have been no reason to eat that shit sandwich. I have been in to post roll everyday for 21 days now in my group plus what would have been my group if I had stayed quit in 2012, texting day counts with 12 or 13 people from the site. These are the things I am doing differently to make sure I can keep my quit on ODAAT. For me personally, the ritual/routine of WUPPEDD is what is getting me through. I am a man of integrity, I may not have always felt that way about myself, and I keep my word. Giving my word, and knowing that about myself, is getting slowly easier to stay quit.
I know this is all over the place, just where my head is at after 21 days. Thanx for all the support and stay strong, stay quit!

edit to add: This piece of my intro is all about me, I reference another Nov member, but only as a jumping off point. As Jacobmidlin just posted in our group: what works for one doesn't necessarily work for all. I have mangaged people all of my adult life and that is one the most important lessons to learn. Tying back in to KTC, the manager role I learned in the restaurant business said there were 3 types of people who fail and we had a solution for each of them: Don't Know, Can't Do, and Don't Care. Teach the Don't cares (intros, and all the welcome info on this site) Re-purpose the Can't Dos (not on here, FB, other methods of quit) and for the Don't Cares, well they can f@#$ straight off and do something else with their time and stop wasting ours. Rant on/Rant over
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: pky1520 on August 22, 2017, 07:58:00 AM
Quote from: 69Franx
21 days/ 3 weeks in. Feeling very strong about my quit now. Reading a ton on the site (if you have not visited the question thread in Wildcard, and you could use a good laugh, then check it out)
I spent week 1 cold turkey, but have been using some SMS over the last 2 weeks. The pouches are a bit small, but familiar as that is what I usually chewed. The loose stuff packs like crap and was an all over mess. Tried several varieties: straight, classic, wintergreen, and citrus. Think the citrus was the best tasting, but still a mess. Have some grinds pouches on order coming in this week to check out.
Last post I made in here was about another caver. He caved, came back, answered his 3 questions, posted days 12 then decided to leave the site and be quit on his own. His cave received a ton of back lash that he felt was just negativity for negativity's sake. His feelings reminded me of what I saw on here when I first joined back in 2012. I did not want to take all that abuse, and see that negativity. Now that I am back in the quit groove, I really do see the attack as a big part of the process for someone who caves. Get mad at yourself for allowing people to have a reason to give you a hard time about caving. They did not cave, you did, own it, fix it, rinse, repeat. When I came back at the beginning of the month, I started posting, without really checking out the site and understanding the program. I made some poorly informed statements and ate a lot of shit for those statements. In that instance, I was right where he was, pissed off at the world for abusing me and I almost gave up on the site for a second time. Then I had a moment of clarity as I described above: I realized that I was the source of my pain, not the comments directed towards me. If I had not done what I did, or said what I said, there would have been no reason to eat that shit sandwich. I have been in to post roll everyday for 21 days now in my group plus what would have been my group if I had stayed quit in 2012, texting day counts with 12 or 13 people from the site. These are the things I am doing differently to make sure I can keep my quit on ODAAT. For me personally, the ritual/routine of WUPPEDD is what is getting me through. I am a man of integrity, I may not have always felt that way about myself, and I keep my word. Giving my word, and knowing that about myself, is getting slowly easier to stay quit.
I know this is all over the place, just where my head is at after 21 days. Thanx for all the support and stay strong, stay quit!

edit to add: This piece of my intro is all about me, I reference another Nov member, but only as a jumping off point. As Jacobmidlin just posted in our group: what works for one doesn't necessarily work for all. I have mangaged people all of my adult life and that is one the most important lessons to learn. Tying back in to KTC, the manager role I learned in the restaurant business said there were 3 types of people who fail and we had a solution for each of them: Don't Know, Can't Do, and Don't Care. Teach the Don't cares (intros, and all the welcome info on this site) Re-purpose the Can't Dos (not on here, FB, other methods of quit) and for the Don't Cares, well they can f@#$ straight off and do something else with their time and stop wasting ours. Rant on/Rant over
Love that post Franx! One of my favorite things here is seeing someone finally "get it" and drink the koolade. The system works if you do. There's nothing here but support and positive reinforcement until an individual's actions bring about the justified negative responses.

Also that "Don't know, Can't do, Don't Care" perspective is a great perspective that I'd never heard before.

Keep up the solid Quit brother!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on August 22, 2017, 03:22:00 PM
Thanx a ton pky1520, I am in a whole different world now compared to 23 days ago. I cant remember if you were one of the supportive people or a "motivator/ass kicker" when I came back to KTC, but I know that you were one of the first 2 or 3 people to acknowledge my presence and I can't explain how much all the early comments both good and rough have meant for my quit. You rock this s#$%
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on August 28, 2017, 08:19:00 AM
Day 28, 4 weeks in. Headaches are not as frequent and I am sleeping better. Lack of sleep and the headaches are a good enough reason to never want to go through that suck phase again. No strong cravings during the day, just later at night when I used to ninja dip. Just going to bed earlier than back before I quit seems to eliminate most of those craves as well. My sample order of Grinds came in this week. These are sized so much bigger than the SMS pouches, its like night and day. Only tried the peppermint and cinnamon roll (yuck) so far. The plan will be to finish this sample pack and be able to go back to cold turkey with no substitutions. Thanx for the support
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: B-loMatt on August 28, 2017, 08:52:00 AM
Quote from: 69Franx
Day 28, 4 weeks in. Headaches are not as frequent and I am sleeping better. Lack of sleep and the headaches are a good enough reason to never want to go through that suck phase again. No strong cravings during the day, just later at night when I used to ninja dip. Just going to bed earlier than back before I quit seems to eliminate most of those craves as well. My sample order of Grinds came in this week. These are sized so much bigger than the SMS pouches, its like night and day. Only tried the peppermint and cinnamon roll (yuck) so far. The plan will be to finish this sample pack and be able to go back to cold turkey with no substitutions. Thanx for the support
The oral fixation is a bitch. Took me months to get over it, but if it's nic free and helps then stick it in your gob. All the b\s goes away at some point, just keep +1ing.
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on August 28, 2017, 10:43:00 AM
Quote from: B-loMatt
Quote from: 69Franx
Day 28, 4 weeks in. Headaches are not as frequent and I am sleeping better. Lack of sleep and the headaches are a good enough reason to never want to go through that suck phase again. No strong cravings during the day, just later at night when I used to ninja dip. Just going to bed earlier than back before I quit seems to eliminate most of those craves as well. My sample order of Grinds came in this week. These are sized so much bigger than the SMS pouches, its like night and day. Only tried the peppermint and cinnamon roll (yuck) so far. The plan will be to finish this sample pack and be able to go back to cold turkey with no substitutions. Thanx for the support
The oral fixation is a bitch. Took me months to get over it, but if it's nic free and helps then stick it in your gob. All the b\s goes away at some point, just keep +1ing.
Thanx Matt. Thats my plan. I did the first week with nothing while I waited for the SMS to come in. That came in and it was not to my liking, so then I ordered the Grinds. They do the job nicely, I am just a little worried that they are too comfortable, too familiar. If I need something, the grinds are what I will lean on, but the plan is to give those up soon, like I stated above when they run out. Plus 1ing is exactly what it is all about. Thanks for the support
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on September 02, 2017, 05:27:00 AM
Well that sucked ass. I'm a bit sick, head cold, cant breathe, etc. Took some nyquill before bed ( I should be asleep for another 8 hours.) Just woke up in a cold sweat from my first dip dream after 32 days. The posts about these seemed like such a bunch of shit to me in the past until I had one. I don't think I ever had one before, even when I had stopped for 14 months. The main thought is that it was not a dip dream, it was a cave dream with nothing in it that made sense. I was with family and an in-law who doesn't smoke or chew was telling the family about hew weight loss efforts. Her doctor had prescribed her Medical grade Grizzly(?) that was loose leafs rolled into little footballs(?) almost like a pouch but with no pouch material. No sense at all. Who would prescribe nicotine for weightloss? There was no hesitation on my part, I never even thought of calling or texting anyone; I immediately took one and popped it into my mouth. I was fascinated by the idea of medical grade chew. In the end, it did not even taste good, I did not enjoy it and spit it out after like just a minute or 2. The guilt woke me in an instant.
In my dream, I was stuck with the biggest problem I could imagine: what now? I did not have it in for long, could I still post a +1? Was I that guy? Could I start over and eat all that caver shit? As I believe Broccoli-saurus put it, I have dug a pretty deep quit hole in 33 days: posting roll every day, being pretty vocal in my group and others, reading a ton of stuff on here, daily texts with 21 different members, afternoon reminders sent out to those missing roll or not responding to my texts, etc. When all this went through my head, I woke up and it took almost 10 minutes to convince myself it was only a dream: I was sick, cold meds, and I am quit: this I would not do.
So in the end, I will tell you that dip dreams are a real thing, or to me, cave dreams; and I hope you never have one. I am quite miserable, sitting here awake on the weekend at 5am when I wanted to sleep in until noon, typing this drivel out to clear my head. Have a great holiday weekend everyone, hopefully I am going back to sleep
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Jeff W on September 02, 2017, 11:56:00 AM
You are killing it man! Keep doing what you've been doing. Damn proud to quit with you!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on September 05, 2017, 02:56:00 PM
Here in Vegas for work on Day 36. No internet this morning, but got all my texts out to my quit brothers and sisters. Thanks to buddyaces for the pick up. I'll mostly be out of pocket until Saturday afternoon: conference stuff all day, and business meetings (I mean cocktail parties) at night. Keeping the alcohol on the low low side to prevent any issues from creeping in. I'll be back to my usual hanging out here almost all day long once I am back in the office on Monday. Some big days today for others I text with: Sfurze hit HOF and Bicycleptic hit the 6th floor. I will get to those but I have to do it ODAAT EDD and I will!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on September 11, 2017, 02:26:00 PM
Day 42, 6 weeks in. Quit is going well. Spent last week in Vegas for work. Avoided the poker and Black jack tables, cause I always loved to play and chew. No issues out there with craves. Met up with ReWire yesterday morning right here in SE Indiana as he was heading home. He also gave me a KTC coozie. Did not spend much time with him, just a quick pic and exchanged a story or 2. He had the wife and kids in the car as well as another 8+ hours to drive. It was a little strange to just meet a total "stranger" in a McDonald's parking lot, at least at first. So glad I got out there and made it happen. Seems like a great guy, a great family man, and a strong quitter with over 600 days in quit. So, if you have the chance to get out and meet fellow quitters, do it. I feel that I could never let him down now, and will be quit with him ODAAT EDD. Created and loaded up the contact page on our home made SSOA, just need to get the info from everyone else to get it up to date and complete.
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on September 14, 2017, 01:36:00 PM
Depressing fact: If I had actually quit back when I joined this site, I would be posting day 2082 today. Instead, I am posting day 45. If you have any doubts about quitting, just do it now, don't wait, I wasted 5.5 years and over $6K on those cans full of poison. What could I do today with $6K, I'll tell you it would solve some problems, pay off a credit card, anything i could do with it would be better than buying cat turds in a can. Just another random little rant. One more post to help me stay quit. Learning to hate nicotine when the dollar signs slap me in the face. Reached out today to a couple old vets, from way back in April 2010. They were in the same HOF class as the brother that introduced me to KTC back in late 2011. If only I had listened back then. If only I had realized that I did not really enjoy chewing, thats just what the nic bitch made me think. That bitch stole $6K from me and I let her do it! What the hell was I thinking? I did not realize that I was an addict who was giving up control to that rotten bitch. I think this is all coming to the forefront as Embracethesuck, a brother in my own Pre-HOF class caved last night. Posted roll, and went back on his word. I don't want to be that guy. I will not be that guy. I am still an addict, but I can beat that bitch today. I can win today. I will wake up tomorrow and do it again. I cannot get that $6K back, but i can be sure to not give it away again to UST.
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on September 19, 2017, 09:31:00 AM
Today makes 50. thank you to everyone who was "kind" enough to share the special KTC Half HOF meme with me via text this morning. If only he were singing. So 50 days gone by, roughly $150 saved, Dipquit app says my circulation is 50% of the way back to normal, taste and smell normal, heart attack risk dropped 100%. I am feeling better. No fake in the last week, but a lot of sugar free cough drops. May be looking to pick up and try out Jake's mint chews when I am out and about town this week. Its not going to be a quick run to the Cmart like grizzly used to be, I will have to make an effort to get it. But I have definitely been jonesing for a dip in the last week: brewed first batch of home brew chew free (long day of sitting and watching a pot warm up, sit for a while, heat it up to boil, watch that for an hour, then an hour's worth of cleanup, all without a dip!), suffering through the Damn Clowns game (thats not an It reference but rather an NFL reference.) Big thanx go out to all my November 2017 Pre-Hof brothers and sister for their daily support. Keep strong, keep quit. Also big thanx out to so many different vets who support us on a daily basis: miker0351, ReWire, Samrs, Bicycleptic, ADMann, Cbird65, PMILS, Tyrsman, Sfurze76, Big Red, and all the others who keep us on our toes. All in all, feeling much better today about life, my quit and the universe than I was during my last post
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 4TheWin on September 19, 2017, 10:53:00 AM
Lots and lots of good stuff here, so thanks for sharing!!

One question....what the F*ck is "ODAAT EDD."

One other question....what the hell made you give up last time.

Congrats on day 50...proud to quit with you today.
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Montovon on September 19, 2017, 03:52:00 PM
Congrats on day 50. Keep it up. Haven't had a dip dream yet, but last nights sleep was the worst in a while. Sweating and tightness in the chest. Yikes.

Day 27, looking forward to my turn at 50.
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on September 19, 2017, 06:40:00 PM
One Day At A Time Every Damn Day
When I joined in 2012, was just checking it out because a friend told me about the site. I was not ready to quit because I still thought I liked it. I really did not understand that it was an addiction, I thought I was in control. I was just a dumbass. When I stopped for over a year in the past I started using again because I gave in to stress: kids, wife, whatever was a convenient excuse
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: worktowin on October 20, 2017, 06:09:00 AM
Happy birthday, brother. Today you will own the whole day... you wonÂ’t be sharing it with an addiction that stole parts of your celebrations from you in the past. That is the best gift to yourself ever!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: pab1964 on October 23, 2017, 12:29:00 PM
YouÂ’re doing it right! YouÂ’ve got some badass quitters on your side! Oddat Edd thatÂ’s the key to staying Quit. Thanks for the daily support
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on October 23, 2017, 01:15:00 PM
Thanx to all for the well wishes on my birthday last week. I know from reading through the pet peeves thread on Wildcard that a man my age should not be having an actual birthday party, so I just spent time with family and friends Thursday through Sunday. it was a great weekend, saw some friends I had not seen since moving away from Cleveland 6 years ago, and relived some crazy stories from our past.
Stopped in here to reflect a bit and realize that I really have not posted an update in over a month, when I wanted to be in here weekly to track my thoughts.
So now that I am back in here, I am at day 84, and things are going well. I have been following someone's advice on a proper quit plan: posting support in several months: when I am in town (so I missed most of these this past weekend.) I am trying to post support in every month of 2017, January of 2018, every November on the site back to 2008, as well as several other months with strong supporters of the ABQ in them. At last count this morning, I posted in 30 different groups, and texted my day count out to over 30 people. These numbers are what is keeping me quit. I cant let all those people down. I can't break my word with that many people. I have said it earlier on here, this quit I am living is for me and I am doing what I need to to keep myself quit.
Still struggling to get the weight off through WW, but it is slowly going down when I don't have a birthday weekend out of town celebrating with old friends. . Really just rambling right now, but caught up with posting the day and November is awfully quiet this afternoon.
For November, HOF is rapidly approaching, with 2 brothers hitting the 90s so far. Scott and I are getting the ABQ to commit to at least 200 days of posting. Several have committed, several including me have screwed up roll because of the extra coding for this. Keep on moving forward. Keep on the plus 1 track EDD!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Swilson on October 23, 2017, 06:23:00 PM
Quote from: 69Franx
Thanx to all for the well wishes on my birthday last week. I know from reading through the pet peeves thread on Wildcard that a man my age should not be having an actual birthday party, so I just spent time with family and friends Thursday through Sunday. it was a great weekend, saw some friends I had not seen since moving away from Cleveland 6 years ago, and relived some crazy stories from our past.
Stopped in here to reflect a bit and realize that I really have not posted an update in over a month, when I wanted to be in here weekly to track my thoughts.
So now that I am back in here, I am at day 84, and things are going well. I have been following someone's advice on a proper quit plan: posting support in several months: when I am in town (so I missed most of these this past weekend.) I am trying to post support in every month of 2017, January of 2018, every November on the site back to 2008, as well as several other months with strong supporters of the ABQ in them. At last count this morning, I posted in 30 different groups, and texted my day count out to over 30 people. These numbers are what is keeping me quit. I cant let all those people down. I can't break my word with that many people. I have said it earlier on here, this quit I am living is for me and I am doing what I need to to keep myself quit.
Still struggling to get the weight off through WW, but it is slowly going down when I don't have a birthday weekend out of town celebrating with old friends. . Really just rambling right now, but caught up with posting the day and November is awfully quiet this afternoon.
For November, HOF is rapidly approaching, with 2 brothers hitting the 90s so far. Scott and I are getting the ABQ to commit to at least 200 days of posting. Several have committed, several including me have screwed up roll because of the extra coding for this. Keep on moving forward. Keep on the plus 1 track EDD!
Maybe we should move the Commit to 200 to field # 2 then it would go back to posting like normal...

ABQ B)B
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on October 23, 2017, 10:06:00 PM
Quote from: Swilson
Quote from: 69Franx
Thanx to all for the well wishes on my birthday last week. I know from reading through the pet peeves thread on Wildcard that a man my age should not be having an actual birthday party, so I just spent time with family and friends Thursday through Sunday. it was a great weekend, saw some friends I had not seen since moving away from Cleveland 6 years ago, and relived some crazy stories from our past.
Stopped in here to reflect a bit and realize that I really have not posted an update in over a month, when I wanted to be in here weekly to track my thoughts.
So now that I am back in here, I am at day 84, and things are going well. I have been following someone's advice on a proper quit plan: posting support in several months: when I am in town (so I missed most of these this past weekend.) I am trying to post support in every month of 2017, January of 2018, every November on the site back to 2008, as well as several other months with strong supporters of the ABQ in them. At last count this morning, I posted in 30 different groups, and texted my day count out to over 30 people. These numbers are what is keeping me quit. I cant let all those people down. I can't break my word with that many people. I have said it earlier on here, this quit I am living is for me and I am doing what I need to to keep myself quit.
Still struggling to get the weight off through WW, but it is slowly going down when I don't have a birthday weekend out of town celebrating with old friends. . Really just rambling right now, but caught up with posting the day and November is awfully quiet this afternoon.
For November, HOF is rapidly approaching, with 2 brothers hitting the 90s so far. Scott and I are getting the ABQ to commit to at least 200 days of posting. Several have committed, several including me have screwed up roll because of the extra coding for this. Keep on moving forward. Keep on the plus 1 track EDD!
Maybe we should move the Commit to 200 to field # 2 then it would go back to posting like normal...

ABQ B)B
I'm certainly not the coding guy. If you think that would make it easier, then lets give it a try. You saw the late afternoon roll jack that set me off, correct?
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on November 06, 2017, 11:52:00 AM
Here on day 98 today. Got a little reality check last week about balance in all things. I know I can be a bit compulsive and I was reminded of this when the wife told me she was unhappy with the amount of time I spend on here. I have a tattoo representing Balance to me (it is Balance for any of you with experience with MTG.) I had forgotten how much this means to me, and especially how much she means to me. The phrase "take what you need and leave the rest" rings so true for me right now. I spent the weekend pretty much ghosting and posting. I only texted those who texted me, and really only posted in November. Huge difference between that and my norm of sending texts out to almost 40 people first thing everyday and posting support in over 30 months for a ton of November's supporters. It was just too much. The last day I posted everywhere last week, I jacked at least 2 different rolls unintentionally. If you are reading this, just remember "Moderation in all things, even moderation." Don't let your loved ones suffer or feel left out because you are quitting. going to need some time to re-focus and prioritize my life before I can piece together a HOF speech. Thanx for reading, just really needed to put some of this on paper for myself. Kind of my own little promise to fix the prioritization issue and not leave her out in the cold. For anyone reading this that i usually post support for, just understand that I will still be here, I will still support you all, I just may not be able to mention everyone. What a rambling fool I feel like right now. Carry on all
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Idaho Spuds on November 06, 2017, 01:00:00 PM
Quote from: 69Franx
Here on day 98 today. Got a little reality check last week about balance in all things. I know I can be a bit compulsive and I was reminded of this when the wife told me she was unhappy with the amount of time I spend on here. I have a tattoo representing Balance to me (it is Balance for any of you with experience with MTG.) I had forgotten how much this means to me, and especially how much she means to me. The phrase "take what you need and leave the rest" rings so true for me right now. I spent the weekend pretty much ghosting and posting. I only texted those who texted me, and really only posted in November. Huge difference between that and my norm of sending texts out to almost 40 people first thing everyday and posting support in over 30 months for a ton of November's supporters. It was just too much. The last day I posted everywhere last week, I jacked at least 2 different rolls unintentionally. If you are reading this, just remember "Moderation in all things, even moderation." Don't let your loved ones suffer or feel left out because you are quitting. going to need some time to re-focus and prioritize my life before I can piece together a HOF speech. Thanx for reading, just really needed to put some of this on paper for myself. Kind of my own little promise to fix the prioritization issue and not leave her out in the cold. For anyone reading this that i usually post support for, just understand that I will still be here, I will still support you all, I just may not be able to mention everyone. What a rambling fool I feel like right now. Carry on all
69Franx great work you are doing it right. Your quit is a journey, it will evolve and change as you post digits and face new challenges and obstacles.
You need your wife's support and work together to figure out a happy medium;
tell her my story; 'quit' hit the HOF, slowly started to not post, faded away, to only get cave and chew hard for another 6 months to only start from ground zero. I am not as active as I used to be but I am here, posting never going away because I can't take that risk.
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on November 06, 2017, 01:20:00 PM
Quote from: Idaho
Quote from: 69Franx
Here on day 98 today. Got a little reality check last week about balance in all things. I know I can be a bit compulsive and I was reminded of this when the wife told me she was unhappy with the amount of time I spend on here. I have a tattoo representing Balance to me (it is Balance for any of you with experience with MTG.) I had forgotten how much this means to me, and especially how much she means to me. The phrase "take what you need and leave the rest" rings so true for me right now. I spent the weekend pretty much ghosting and posting. I only texted those who texted me, and really only posted in November. Huge difference between that and my norm of sending texts out to almost 40 people first thing everyday and posting support in over 30 months for a ton of November's supporters. It was just too much. The last day I posted everywhere last week, I jacked at least 2 different rolls unintentionally. If you are reading this, just remember "Moderation in all things, even moderation." Don't let your loved ones suffer or feel left out because you are quitting. going to need some time to re-focus and prioritize my life before I can piece together a HOF speech. Thanx for reading, just really needed to put some of this on paper for myself. Kind of my own little promise to fix the prioritization issue and not leave her out in the cold. For anyone reading this that i usually post support for, just understand that I will still be here, I will still support you all, I just may not be able to mention everyone. What a rambling fool I feel like right now. Carry on all
69Franx great work you are doing it right. Your quit is a journey, it will evolve and change as you post digits and face new challenges and obstacles.
You need your wife's support and work together to figure out a happy medium;
tell her my story; 'quit' hit the HOF, slowly started to not post, faded away, to only get cave and chew hard for another 6 months to only start from ground zero. I am not as active as I used to be but I am here, posting never going away because I can't take that risk.
Thanx so much for these words and your continued support. I made the mistake of only telling her I was quitting and how (through KTC) I did not tell her about spousal support really until it was too late. That was info I really should have given her on Day 1 and not doing that really hurt. She was at the point of telling me that I had changed so much in the last 95 days that she would rather have the old me back and chewing than the cold, distant dumbass I was becoming. What a wake up call. I knew I had gotten myself into the addiction, and figured I could get myself out of it. I made the mistake during down time of being on the site rather than being present with her at home. I do my best when I am up early before her, and can send out all my texts first thing, sorry to all you late risers or West Coasters, its the only way to get them all in. At work, I can usually spend half an hour to post support everywhere I want to. I just spent too much time reading all the drama in a couple newer months over the last couple weeks and it had an effect on the time I spent with her. That is behind me. As i said earlier, I may not continue calling out all those I did before, but I am always available to anyone through PM or text if you have my digits. I am still active in my home group, but cannot keep up with all the drama elsewhere. I will share with and support anyone who needs another contact, just shoot me a PM.
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: pab1964 on November 06, 2017, 05:30:00 PM
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Quote from: Idaho
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Here on day 98 today. Got a little reality check last week about balance in all things. I know I can be a bit compulsive and I was reminded of this when the wife told me she was unhappy with the amount of time I spend on here. I have a tattoo representing Balance to me (it is Balance for any of you with experience with MTG.) I had forgotten how much this means to me, and especially how much she means to me. The phrase "take what you need and leave the rest" rings so true for me right now. I spent the weekend pretty much ghosting and posting. I only texted those who texted me, and really only posted in November. Huge difference between that and my norm of sending texts out to almost 40 people first thing everyday and posting support in over 30 months for a ton of November's supporters. It was just too much. The last day I posted everywhere last week, I jacked at least 2 different rolls unintentionally. If you are reading this, just remember "Moderation in all things, even moderation." Don't let your loved ones suffer or feel left out because you are quitting. going to need some time to re-focus and prioritize my life before I can piece together a HOF speech. Thanx for reading, just really needed to put some of this on paper for myself. Kind of my own little promise to fix the prioritization issue and not leave her out in the cold. For anyone reading this that i usually post support for, just understand that I will still be here, I will still support you all, I just may not be able to mention everyone. What a rambling fool I feel like right now. Carry on all
69Franx great work you are doing it right. Your quit is a journey, it will evolve and change as you post digits and face new challenges and obstacles.
You need your wife's support and work together to figure out a happy medium;
tell her my story; 'quit' hit the HOF, slowly started to not post, faded away, to only get cave and chew hard for another 6 months to only start from ground zero. I am not as active as I used to be but I am here, posting never going away because I can't take that risk.
Thanx so much for these words and your continued support. I made the mistake of only telling her I was quitting and how (through KTC) I did not tell her about spousal support really until it was too late. That was info I really should have given her on Day 1 and not doing that really hurt. She was at the point of telling me that I had changed so much in the last 95 days that she would rather have the old me back and chewing than the cold, distant dumbass I was becoming. What a wake up call. I knew I had gotten myself into the addiction, and figured I could get myself out of it. I made the mistake during down time of being on the site rather than being present with her at home. I do my best when I am up early before her, and can send out all my texts first thing, sorry to all you late risers or West Coasters, its the only way to get them all in. At work, I can usually spend half an hour to post support everywhere I want to. I just spent too much time reading all the drama in a couple newer months over the last couple weeks and it had an effect on the time I spent with her. That is behind me. As i said earlier, I may not continue calling out all those I did before, but I am always available to anyone through PM or text if you have my digits. I am still active in my home group, but cannot keep up with all the drama elsewhere. I will share with and support anyone who needs another contact, just shoot me a PM.
Understand totally my friend, over 2.5 years later mine still bitches at me but I understand I do spend way to much time on here. Always wanting to give back whatÂ’s been given to me
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on November 06, 2017, 07:33:00 PM
Quote from: pab1964
Quote from: 69Franx
Quote from: Idaho
Quote from: 69Franx
Here on day 98 today. Got a little reality check last week about balance in all things. I know I can be a bit compulsive and I was reminded of this when the wife told me she was unhappy with the amount of time I spend on here. I have a tattoo representing Balance to me (it is Balance for any of you with experience with MTG.) I had forgotten how much this means to me, and especially how much she means to me. The phrase "take what you need and leave the rest" rings so true for me right now. I spent the weekend pretty much ghosting and posting. I only texted those who texted me, and really only posted in November. Huge difference between that and my norm of sending texts out to almost 40 people first thing everyday and posting support in over 30 months for a ton of November's supporters. It was just too much. The last day I posted everywhere last week, I jacked at least 2 different rolls unintentionally. If you are reading this, just remember "Moderation in all things, even moderation." Don't let your loved ones suffer or feel left out because you are quitting. going to need some time to re-focus and prioritize my life before I can piece together a HOF speech. Thanx for reading, just really needed to put some of this on paper for myself. Kind of my own little promise to fix the prioritization issue and not leave her out in the cold. For anyone reading this that i usually post support for, just understand that I will still be here, I will still support you all, I just may not be able to mention everyone. What a rambling fool I feel like right now. Carry on all
69Franx great work you are doing it right. Your quit is a journey, it will evolve and change as you post digits and face new challenges and obstacles.
You need your wife's support and work together to figure out a happy medium;
tell her my story; 'quit' hit the HOF, slowly started to not post, faded away, to only get cave and chew hard for another 6 months to only start from ground zero. I am not as active as I used to be but I am here, posting never going away because I can't take that risk.
Thanx so much for these words and your continued support. I made the mistake of only telling her I was quitting and how (through KTC) I did not tell her about spousal support really until it was too late. That was info I really should have given her on Day 1 and not doing that really hurt. She was at the point of telling me that I had changed so much in the last 95 days that she would rather have the old me back and chewing than the cold, distant dumbass I was becoming. What a wake up call. I knew I had gotten myself into the addiction, and figured I could get myself out of it. I made the mistake during down time of being on the site rather than being present with her at home. I do my best when I am up early before her, and can send out all my texts first thing, sorry to all you late risers or West Coasters, its the only way to get them all in. At work, I can usually spend half an hour to post support everywhere I want to. I just spent too much time reading all the drama in a couple newer months over the last couple weeks and it had an effect on the time I spent with her. That is behind me. As i said earlier, I may not continue calling out all those I did before, but I am always available to anyone through PM or text if you have my digits. I am still active in my home group, but cannot keep up with all the drama elsewhere. I will share with and support anyone who needs another contact, just shoot me a PM.
Understand totally my friend, over 2.5 years later mine still bitches at me but I understand I do spend way to much time on here. Always wanting to give back whatÂ’s been given to me
I think if I can just spend less of our time on here, and show her the spousal support page as well as the contract to quit, things will be forgiven and better overall
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: worktowin on November 06, 2017, 10:19:00 PM
Quote from: 69Franx
Quote from: pab1964
Quote from: 69Franx
Quote from: Idaho
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Here on day 98 today. Got a little reality check last week about balance in all things. I know I can be a bit compulsive and I was reminded of this when the wife told me she was unhappy with the amount of time I spend on here. I have a tattoo representing Balance to me (it is Balance for any of you with experience with MTG.) I had forgotten how much this means to me, and especially how much she means to me. The phrase "take what you need and leave the rest" rings so true for me right now. I spent the weekend pretty much ghosting and posting. I only texted those who texted me, and really only posted in November. Huge difference between that and my norm of sending texts out to almost 40 people first thing everyday and posting support in over 30 months for a ton of November's supporters. It was just too much. The last day I posted everywhere last week, I jacked at least 2 different rolls unintentionally. If you are reading this, just remember "Moderation in all things, even moderation." Don't let your loved ones suffer or feel left out because you are quitting. going to need some time to re-focus and prioritize my life before I can piece together a HOF speech. Thanx for reading, just really needed to put some of this on paper for myself. Kind of my own little promise to fix the prioritization issue and not leave her out in the cold. For anyone reading this that i usually post support for, just understand that I will still be here, I will still support you all, I just may not be able to mention everyone. What a rambling fool I feel like right now. Carry on all
69Franx great work you are doing it right. Your quit is a journey, it will evolve and change as you post digits and face new challenges and obstacles.
You need your wife's support and work together to figure out a happy medium;
tell her my story; 'quit' hit the HOF, slowly started to not post, faded away, to only get cave and chew hard for another 6 months to only start from ground zero. I am not as active as I used to be but I am here, posting never going away because I can't take that risk.
Thanx so much for these words and your continued support. I made the mistake of only telling her I was quitting and how (through KTC) I did not tell her about spousal support really until it was too late. That was info I really should have given her on Day 1 and not doing that really hurt. She was at the point of telling me that I had changed so much in the last 95 days that she would rather have the old me back and chewing than the cold, distant dumbass I was becoming. What a wake up call. I knew I had gotten myself into the addiction, and figured I could get myself out of it. I made the mistake during down time of being on the site rather than being present with her at home. I do my best when I am up early before her, and can send out all my texts first thing, sorry to all you late risers or West Coasters, its the only way to get them all in. At work, I can usually spend half an hour to post support everywhere I want to. I just spent too much time reading all the drama in a couple newer months over the last couple weeks and it had an effect on the time I spent with her. That is behind me. As i said earlier, I may not continue calling out all those I did before, but I am always available to anyone through PM or text if you have my digits. I am still active in my home group, but cannot keep up with all the drama elsewhere. I will share with and support anyone who needs another contact, just shoot me a PM.
Understand totally my friend, over 2.5 years later mine still bitches at me but I understand I do spend way to much time on here. Always wanting to give back whatÂ’s been given to me
I think if I can just spend less of our time on here, and show her the spousal support page as well as the contract to quit, things will be forgiven and better overall
Remember... this is about you. YouÂ’ll find the right balance. Congrats on soon to be triple digits !!!!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on November 07, 2017, 07:12:00 AM
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Quote from: 69Franx
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Quote from: 69Franx
Quote from: Idaho
Quote from: 69Franx
Here on day 98 today. Got a little reality check last week about balance in all things. I know I can be a bit compulsive and I was reminded of this when the wife told me she was unhappy with the amount of time I spend on here. I have a tattoo representing Balance to me (it is Balance for any of you with experience with MTG.) I had forgotten how much this means to me, and especially how much she means to me. The phrase "take what you need and leave the rest" rings so true for me right now. I spent the weekend pretty much ghosting and posting. I only texted those who texted me, and really only posted in November. Huge difference between that and my norm of sending texts out to almost 40 people first thing everyday and posting support in over 30 months for a ton of November's supporters. It was just too much. The last day I posted everywhere last week, I jacked at least 2 different rolls unintentionally. If you are reading this, just remember "Moderation in all things, even moderation." Don't let your loved ones suffer or feel left out because you are quitting. going to need some time to re-focus and prioritize my life before I can piece together a HOF speech. Thanx for reading, just really needed to put some of this on paper for myself. Kind of my own little promise to fix the prioritization issue and not leave her out in the cold. For anyone reading this that i usually post support for, just understand that I will still be here, I will still support you all, I just may not be able to mention everyone. What a rambling fool I feel like right now. Carry on all
69Franx great work you are doing it right. Your quit is a journey, it will evolve and change as you post digits and face new challenges and obstacles.
You need your wife's support and work together to figure out a happy medium;
tell her my story; 'quit' hit the HOF, slowly started to not post, faded away, to only get cave and chew hard for another 6 months to only start from ground zero. I am not as active as I used to be but I am here, posting never going away because I can't take that risk.
Thanx so much for these words and your continued support. I made the mistake of only telling her I was quitting and how (through KTC) I did not tell her about spousal support really until it was too late. That was info I really should have given her on Day 1 and not doing that really hurt. She was at the point of telling me that I had changed so much in the last 95 days that she would rather have the old me back and chewing than the cold, distant dumbass I was becoming. What a wake up call. I knew I had gotten myself into the addiction, and figured I could get myself out of it. I made the mistake during down time of being on the site rather than being present with her at home. I do my best when I am up early before her, and can send out all my texts first thing, sorry to all you late risers or West Coasters, its the only way to get them all in. At work, I can usually spend half an hour to post support everywhere I want to. I just spent too much time reading all the drama in a couple newer months over the last couple weeks and it had an effect on the time I spent with her. That is behind me. As i said earlier, I may not continue calling out all those I did before, but I am always available to anyone through PM or text if you have my digits. I am still active in my home group, but cannot keep up with all the drama elsewhere. I will share with and support anyone who needs another contact, just shoot me a PM.
Understand totally my friend, over 2.5 years later mine still bitches at me but I understand I do spend way to much time on here. Always wanting to give back whatÂ’s been given to me
I think if I can just spend less of our time on here, and show her the spousal support page as well as the contract to quit, things will be forgiven and better overall
Remember... this is about you. YouÂ’ll find the right balance. Congrats on soon to be triple digits !!!!
Thanx for the support and everything you do here W2W.
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: worktowin on November 08, 2017, 05:40:00 AM
Congratulations on your first big milestone, the first of many!

Dude you are doing this the right way. Making connections and getting your name out there. You will have a few bumps ahead, after HOF is sometimes a difficult period, but ODAAT it gets SO much better from here. Stay the course, have faith, greatness is head.

Enjoy today! YouÂ’ve earned this!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Candoit on November 08, 2017, 07:03:00 AM
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Congratulations on your first big milestone, the first of many!

Dude you are doing this the right way. Making connections and getting your name out there. You will have a few bumps ahead, after HOF is sometimes a difficult period, but ODAAT it gets SO much better from here. Stay the course, have faith, greatness is head.

Enjoy today! YouÂ’ve earned this!
Well done on the first 100!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: MikeP15 on November 08, 2017, 07:34:00 AM
Proud of you Frank - you made it buddy! From intro to the HOF. You BAS ASS QUITTER!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Batdad on November 08, 2017, 09:32:00 AM
Congrats on reaching the hall!! Keep quitting one day at a time
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: pab1964 on November 08, 2017, 10:17:00 AM
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Congrats on reaching the hall!! Keep quitting one day at a time
YouÂ’re doing it right! You are supporting others and getting support in return! Win win situation! Congratulations and letÂ’s keep doing this together ODAAT!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Idaho Spuds on November 08, 2017, 11:34:00 AM
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Congrats on reaching the hall!! Keep quitting one day at a time
YouÂ’re doing it right! You are supporting others and getting support in return! Win win situation! Congratulations and letÂ’s keep doing this together ODAAT!
Congrats on the HOF, you are killing it
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Zeno on November 08, 2017, 12:01:00 PM
Quote from: Idaho
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Congrats on reaching the hall!! Keep quitting one day at a time
YouÂ’re doing it right! You are supporting others and getting support in return! Win win situation! Congratulations and letÂ’s keep doing this together ODAAT!
Congrats on the HOF, you are killing it
congrats on HOF Franx!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on November 08, 2017, 03:05:00 PM
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Quote from: Idaho
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Congrats on reaching the hall!! Keep quitting one day at a time
YouÂ’re doing it right! You are supporting others and getting support in return! Win win situation! Congratulations and letÂ’s keep doing this together ODAAT!
Congrats on the HOF, you are killing it
congrats on HOF Franx!
Shit brother, are we writing in each other's intros at the same time? Thanx again
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: lmcb on November 08, 2017, 03:53:00 PM
Great work getting here---now pay attention!!

DON'T LET UP ONE SINGLE BIT!!

Got it?

TheOldMan--Out!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on November 08, 2017, 04:50:00 PM
Quote from: lmcb
Great work getting here---now pay attention!!

DON'T LET UP ONE SINGLE BIT!!

Got it?

TheOldMan--Out!
Great work? Great post, re-posting in November!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on December 18, 2017, 12:02:00 AM
Damn, 39 days since my last entry here. Its been a great month plus since I hit the HOF. As I said in the last couple posts, I have had to scale back my presence on the site to keep things great at home. I have not missed a day, 100%, One Day At A Time Every Damn Day is the only way to stay quit. I have numbers for close to 50 people that I am texting with almost daily. I am still trying to find the time to post in all the 2017 months, all the Novembers, all of 2018, plus so many other Big supporters of my November: Glass House, Jack Wagins, Dumpster Fire, Smart Ass-tros, STDs, The Shell, The Nameless Ninjas, the Silverbacks, Swarming Hornets, The July DDs, the Nic Killas, the Fog Cutters, The Asylum, The Mighty Wolfpack, The FYWQs, The December Bouncers/boobs and others that I know I've missed again here. To all of you, I want to send a huge thanx for all of your support and the motivational/Ass kicking words of encouragement.
My quit still feels strong. I rarely have craves, sleep is better some nights. Headaches are almost completely gone. Still some heartburn issues, probably diet related by this point. I also have a dentist appointment coming up in less than a month. Will be the first since I quit. I am not worried about that visit, as He has been regularly doing cancere screens on me for the last several years. Regular cleanings, no big issues. He has never asked me if I chew, only if I was a smoker. I never volunteered that info. (He may have asked about chew when I first started going to him, but I was in the middle of an extended stoppage at the time. I will happily be telling him during this visit that I am quit, that I was a dumbass for hiding it, and double check everything on this visit.

Not much else to say for myself. Saw a plea for help tonight in March late night and PMd, emailed, and replied to the day 1 poster. I linked a couple things for him in cluding my intro which I have now completely re-read. I am so glad that I put so much of the things I was feeling early on in my quit. The vets are right when they say that this is the place to put all the important thing that you want to be able to remember and find easily. So in reality, kind of just a post to get my head straight on where I am and what I want to be doing, continuing the idea of a timeline to look back on. To quote a great movie "If you have the means, I highly recommend picking one up(doing your own intro)" Good night all.
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: worktowin on December 18, 2017, 06:57:00 AM
Quote from: 69Franx
Damn, 39 days since my last entry here. Its been a great month plus since I hit the HOF. As I said in the last couple posts, I have had to scale back my presence on the site to keep things great at home. I have not missed a day, 100%, One Day At A Time Every Damn Day is the only way to stay quit. I have numbers for close to 50 people that I am texting with almost daily. I am still trying to find the time to post in all the 2017 months, all the Novembers, all of 2018, plus so many other Big supporters of my November: Glass House, Jack Wagins, Dumpster Fire, Smart Ass-tros, STDs, The Shell, The Nameless Ninjas, the Silverbacks, Swarming Hornets, The July DDs, the Nic Killas, the Fog Cutters, The Asylum, The Mighty Wolfpack, The FYWQs, The December Bouncers/boobs and others that I know I've missed again here. To all of you, I want to send a huge thanx for all of your support and the motivational/Ass kicking words of encouragement.
My quit still feels strong. I rarely have craves, sleep is better some nights. Headaches are almost completely gone. Still some heartburn issues, probably diet related by this point. I also have a dentist appointment coming up in less than a month. Will be the first since I quit. I am not worried about that visit, as He has been regularly doing cancere screens on me for the last several years. Regular cleanings, no big issues. He has never asked me if I chew, only if I was a smoker. I never volunteered that info. (He may have asked about chew when I first started going to him, but I was in the middle of an extended stoppage at the time. I will happily be telling him during this visit that I am quit, that I was a dumbass for hiding it, and double check everything on this visit.

Not much else to say for myself. Saw a plea for help tonight in March late night and PMd, emailed, and replied to the day 1 poster. I linked a couple things for him in cluding my intro which I have now completely re-read. I am so glad that I put so much of the things I was feeling early on in my quit. The vets are right when they say that this is the place to put all the important thing that you want to be able to remember and find easily. So in reality, kind of just a post to get my head straight on where I am and what I want to be doing, continuing the idea of a timeline to look back on. To quote a great movie "If you have the means, I highly recommend picking one up(doing your own intro)" Good night all.
Life will keep getting better... a lot better... one day at a time!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on January 24, 2018, 07:51:00 PM
Just needed to put this somewhere easy to find, thanx wastepanel for such a great little story
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I am going to post this here with Dans permission, for texts at least, so I donÂ’t have to text it later:

Ok, so I donÂ’t want to beat this to death

I am not stopping my nicotine recovery, I am incorporating it into my overall recovery

Today - I see KTC as my rehab center, my detox, I needed it to get the monkey off my back, get a foundation of quit under my feet.

Exactly like when I needed a drug and alcohol rehab, I could not get a clean and sober “tomorrow”, I d say not tomorrow, and drink again. I had to go in a place that was safe and protected so I could get some clean days under my belt.

There was never a plan to move in permanently

KTC was my nicotine rehab/detox

Time for me to move out, I’m sorry it upsets some folks, “obsessive people pleasing” is another addiction I work on...

I have a recovery base in my life, many at KTC do not (and thatÂ’s actually good, crashing and burning on alcohol and dope ainÂ’t a suggested path
I think it is really lame to not explain to the group himself. Quitting is hard and it can get downright ugly sometimes. This sounds like a person making a rash decision and letting their addict brain influence his decision. I hope he reconsiders.
I believe that he has texted/talked to a number of people in January personally rather than posting here. This was not a "wake up and decide to do this" decision. It's been discussed offline quite a bit.
I think that is part of the problem when you discuss stuff offline and only with January people. You miss the advice of people that been around the block a couple times. IÂ’m not saying we have all the answers or are better then the newbie quitter. We just have experience with this type of stuff and might have helped the situation. All we want is for everyone to be quit. All I know is that I lied to myself and my loved one for years before I found KTC. KTC has helped me be quit and stay quit. It works for me and many others.
Maybe this is partly correct. Maybe.

Can you honestly expect ANY of us to discuss anything serious with most of the long term people here? Really??? You can't POSSIBLY be that obtuse.

Try re-reading a lot of what's been posted in this group (and in others under the blanket heading of F.U.R.Y.) by many of those people. Then come back and say that again with a straight face.


I'll say it with a straight face.
I've read every post in here from the start.
You sir are extremely level headed..
But some of these other cats take any advice,
or constructive criticism as an attack.
At that point they jump into defense mode, and the message is lost.
"The Council" can look in the mirror if they wanna know what caused MOST shit storms in here.
There.
I said it.
And with one hand on the Bible....
Moderator in training right here!

Good political answer... Say, are you from California?
Why is it wrong to have Leo's point of view and perspective? Quite a few on this site, including me, agree with what he said. He did not always have the same opnion. He formed his opinion based on his experience. He has been quit for almost a year. I have found that Very few people, if any, hold the same point of view regarding their quit on day one as they do on day 365. Given enough time and experience you will probably evolve your opinion on some things.

All of this has happened before and all of this will happen again!

Stay quit!
I post with you guys every day. I'm quiet. Y'all are big boys, but I'd like to bring up a post that I put up in 2012 (that holds truer meaning to me today than it did back then):
Quote
So, this is 6 months quit...

I really thought CNC, Moe, and myself were clear that being a retread is not all the fun and games people make it out to be. We screamed how important it is to post roll everyday. We've practiced it for close to 200 days now. Yet, the basterds keep falling off roll one by one.

It pisses me off because I fell off the posting wagon early in 2007. I stopped posting around 150 days in that stoppage. I didn't cave right away. I was "quit"!

In the next 850 plus days, my brain began ridding itself of my addict thoughts. It started with the nicotine cravings and ended with the tools I learned that kept me quit. The greatest lie ever is an addict convincing himself he's cured.

I never planned caved. I got drunk, and I asked to bum one off of my friend. It was that simple. No warning lights went off. I hadn't even thought about the site in quite a while. I said "That sounds good" and I was off. I didn't feel bad afterwards either. It was gross, and I spit it out fairly quickly.

I did not think about it again for about a week. Unfortunately, I started a timer in my body that was going to lead to it returning to a dependent state.

The next week, the nic bitch was in my ear.

Scott....you're the man. You used to chew all the time. Not anymore. Hell, you chewed last week with no cravings or thoughts of it until now. It's true. You can't get re-addicted with just one. In fact...I bet you could chew with your friends now. Just don't buy a can...

So I did.

Everytime I saw my friends, I was chewing again. Until they got pissed over all the bumming I was doing...

Scott...It's not fair these guys have to give up their hard earned money all the time. Would you be happy if they kept coming over and drinking your beer? Just buy a can and toss it afterwards. Kara will never know...

So I did.

I bought a can for $4.50 everytime I went out with my friends (or I was drinking and my wife wasn't around). I would have 3-4 chews a night on these occasions (1 night a week) for the next month or so. At first, I'd toss the can the moment I got in the car. Gradually, it was as I was pulling into my neighborhood.

Until one day...

Scott...Are you really going to waste that? You have a good $3.00 worth of chew. You can keep it in your car and just get out when you're going out with your friends. That's just being thrifty, man. You're strong, and it's not like you're re-addicted....

So I did.

I put the can in the glove compartment and would forget about it until I was going out (until tax season started though). Tax season sucks. You give up 3 good months of your life and everybody in it. I was working much more, and my stress level was through the roof. One night, as I was coming home from work at 1:30 am, my can beckoned me.

Scott...I can relax you. You still reach for me out of habit when you get stuck on a tax return. I've always been there to help you out, and I'm willing to do it again. As long as you're not chewing at home, you're fine. That's how you can stay control of me, ok?

So I did.

By March of 2010, I was back to chewing as much as I could. I didn't see my wife that often, and would sneak downstairs to "work on taxes". When I did see her, we were in bed, waking up from the bed, or eating a meal.

I was chewing all day long, but I wasn't re-addicted. Nope...I was in control.

Yet I had started chewing at home because I wanted to.

I didn't care anymore. I liked chewing. It relaxed me. It made me a better worker. It took the edge off. And I was dreading April 15 because it meant I was going to have to be home more and I could not go an entire evening without chewing.

My wife had just cleaned the kitchen floor. I had been putting in chews over the garbage can to assure there was no sprinkles on the floor. I missed that day. She grabbed a napkin, and started picking it up. She looked at it, and asked me if I had anything I wanted to tell her. I told her I started chewing again. It felt great to be free.

She was pissed.

I didn't care. I now had an excuse to chew all day long, everyday. No fucking hiding it. No pretending that I'm quit. Just cancer weed all day long.

It took me from October 25, 2009 to March 2010 for this process to complete. It wasn't overnight. It was a series of compromises I made with myself. I never craved initially. I never thought about the negative consequences or the board. It was a sneaky process, but deep down I knew. I knew the path I was on.

I am 184 days quit today. I have yet to miss a roll call.

That was my promise to myself when I returned. I forgot everything last time because I stopped posting roll. I stopped reminding myself how bad I was beforehand, and I stopped soiling nicotine's name. I forgot.

I will never forget again because I don't want to fucking do this again. There's way too good of a life that exists outside of a physically addicted state. I can run around with my boys. I don't have to explain what "Skoal Straight" is to a 7 year old. I don't have sneak a chew in before coaching his tee ball team. I don't have to pre-plan to kiss my wife. My temperature doesn't go up to 175 degrees the moment I am done eating. I don't wake up with that shit on my face. My shower doesn't clog because I 've spit a wad into the drain. Clients don't give me wierd looks when they realize I am, in fact, sporting a fatty in a meeting.

I give 30 seconds each morning for that freedom. There are no compromises on that. A cave is a compromise wrapped in lies. The rules are simple:

(1) Post roll.
(2) Stay quit.
(3) Repeat.

Please tell me where there is room to compromise in there. If you skip step 1, then are you supposed to skip it all the time since step 3 is "repeat"? How long until you start skipping step 2? 850 days?

Best.Return On Investment.Ever.
I'm not worried about the forever of quit and you shouldn't be either. Hell, many people will tell you they are quit but it takes a daily fucking commitment to achieve that shit. Roll call keeps you honest. It keeps you quit.

And support groups hold you accountable.

Why are we thinking this guy gets it when the stories of guys not getting and coming back here over and over again permeate the boards? Honest question and I would expect the same question asked of me should I stray. What happened to the group tracking me down the moment I got bumped one morning on roll?
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Batdad on January 28, 2018, 09:17:00 AM
YouÂ’re doing a great job conducting!! Keep it up!!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on February 05, 2018, 12:39:00 AM
November 2017 ABQs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=)
We will Jack (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwPlIwUJuXw) you up....For caving
Monday, February 5, 2018
We will not lose an argument to a dead plant in a plastic can.
We enjoyed a festive nicotine FREE Turkey Day

Well that was a crazy party of a month. First we of the ABQ would like to extend a big thank you to  'bubblehead' Bojax  JRan 'bubblehead' for being our conductors.
It has been 100 days for all of us but I will be damned if that should stop anyone from coming here and posting roll each and every day!

Just remember...the HOF is not the finish line, but it is an important milestone and should be celebrated! And if I know November, even after 200 days, they will definitely Jack (https://media1.giphy.com/media/hkSg0n0WDcuGc/giphy.gif) you up for caving.

Useful Resources
Thinking of caving? Read this first.  (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=9698232&t=11568995)
Nov 2017 GroupMe (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKDl4cSrL0o)

SSOA November 2017 - ABQ (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_FjPkEZVwsLsN282Zq7SsdUYbWIZQluznavXYGu-Zl0/edit#gid=0)

WELCOME CENTER (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13) - Introductions (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=25) - What to expect when I quit (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/what.asp) -  Symptoms  (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/symptoms.asp)

Print this Contract to give up (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/contract-to-give-up/), put it in your wallet, and commit to signing it before you can take another dip.
Read about Tom and Jenny Kern (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/jenny-tom-kerns-story/) , It will be a tough read, but do it. Start from the beginning
Learn how to post roll (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50) or  watch this video  (https://www.killthecan.org/how-to-post-roll-at-killthecan-org-video/)
Inspiration: Words of Wisdom (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=41) -   HOF Speeches (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=9) - Hall of Legends (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=65)
Important Announcements
Continued thoughts and Prayers for dipsgone family and his wife who is kicking the shit out of breast cancer and for Cwkae30 future in laws also kicking ass!

Daily Topic For Discussion (DT)
  CHOO CHOO-
Hello November, Remember us??? It's your trusty conductors ready to accompany you to the 2nd floor (https://media0.giphy.com/media/AQAmaajPiNbk4/giphy.gif)!! We will be sending out some questions to you soon, please fill them out and send back as quick as you can--It's about time to Celebrate (https://media.giphy.com/media/MS3XuWjQV1FiU/giphy.gif)
 'bubblehead' Bojax  JRan 'bubblehead'
 
November ABQ's In Good Standing
NameDays Quit, Promise, DT discussion
Names are in order by quit dateFind your name and add your promise at the end
Pepper
Karl 72
Cablinaggie
Swilson
aredoubleyou
Dipsgone
69Franx
JeffW
MtHunter
Murph
Jake123
MikeP
Atlanta6774
Racenbl16
cwkae30
RachelMosley
Jhund84
mpscottmorgan
JRAN - Conductor
BoJax - Conductor
miker0351
Samrs[/size]


Missed roll Yesterday For Shame





Random Facts for the Group


Longest Streak to date - 27
Number of days in a row that roll has not been FUBAR'ed at least once - zero
Total Estimated Group $'s saved $23,095 - Crazy stuff we could buy (https://www.buzzfeed.com/ashleyperez/16-things-you-could-buy-instead-of-a-ticket-on-the-worlds-mo?utm_term=.fxJA0BDR3#.sx019n4MO)

Other supporters of the ABQ



Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: dipsgone on February 07, 2018, 02:26:00 AM
November 2017 ABQs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=)
We will Jack (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwPlIwUJuXw) you up....For caving
Wednesday, February 7, 2018
We will not lose an argument to a dead plant in a plastic can.
We enjoyed a festive nicotine FREE Turkey Day

Well that was a crazy party of a month. First we of the ABQ would like to extend a big thank you to  'bubblehead' Bojax  JRan 'bubblehead' for being our conductors.
It has been 100 days for all of us but I will be damned if that should stop anyone from coming here and posting roll each and every day!

Just remember...the HOF is not the finish line, but it is an important milestone and should be celebrated! And if I know November, even after 200 days, they will definitely Jack (https://media1.giphy.com/media/hkSg0n0WDcuGc/giphy.gif) you up for caving.

Useful Resources
Thinking of caving? Read this first.  (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=9698232&t=11568995)
Nov 2017 GroupMe (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKDl4cSrL0o)

SSOA November 2017 - ABQ (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_FjPkEZVwsLsN282Zq7SsdUYbWIZQluznavXYGu-Zl0/edit#gid=0)

WELCOME CENTER (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13) - Introductions (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=25) - What to expect when I quit (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/what.asp) -  Symptoms  (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/symptoms.asp)

Print this Contract to give up (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/contract-to-give-up/), put it in your wallet, and commit to signing it before you can take another dip.
Read about Tom and Jenny Kern (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/jenny-tom-kerns-story/) , It will be a tough read, but do it. Start from the beginning
Learn how to post roll (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50) or  watch this video  (https://www.killthecan.org/how-to-post-roll-at-killthecan-org-video/)
Inspiration: Words of Wisdom (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=41) -   HOF Speeches (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=9) - Hall of Legends (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=65)
Important Announcements
Continued thoughts and Prayers for dipsgone family and his wife who is kicking the shit out of breast cancer and for Cwkae30 future in laws also kicking ass!

Daily Topic For Discussion (DT)
  CHOO CHOO-
Hello November, Remember us??? It's your trusty conductors ready to accompany you to the 2nd floor (https://media0.giphy.com/media/AQAmaajPiNbk4/giphy.gif)!! We will be sending out some questions to you soon, please fill them out and send back as quick as you can--It's about time to Celebrate (https://media.giphy.com/media/MS3XuWjQV1FiU/giphy.gif)
 'bubblehead' Bojax  JRan 'bubblehead'
 
November ABQ's In Good Standing
NameDays Quit, Promise, DT discussion
Names are in order by quit dateFind your name and add your promise at the end
Pepper
Karl 72
Cablinaggie
Swilson
aredoubleyou
Dipsgone
69Franx Day 191/3 ABQ
JeffW
MtHunter
Murph
Jake123
MikeP
Atlanta6774
Racenbl16
cwkae30
RachelMosley
Jhund84
mpscottmorgan
JRAN - Conductor
BoJax - Conductor
miker0351
Samrs[/size]


Missed roll Yesterday For Shame





Random Facts for the Group


Longest Streak to date - 27
Number of days in a row that roll has not been FUBAR'ed at least once - zero
Total Estimated Group $'s saved $23,095 - Crazy stuff we could buy (https://www.buzzfeed.com/ashleyperez/16-things-you-could-buy-instead-of-a-ticket-on-the-worlds-mo?utm_term=.fxJA0BDR3#.sx019n4MO)

Other supporters of the ABQ



Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on February 12, 2018, 01:13:00 PM
196 days today, 28 weeks, more than half a year, and approaching the second floor. I have stopped longer in the past, so really nothing special about the day count yet; but my attitude is so much different than in the past when I would try to stop. Seeing my quit group brothers drop one at a time (they seem to just want to drift away and we all know how that ends up: New Day 1s) is quite depressing but also inspiring. We lost a ton of people in our first 100 days, but only really 4 in the second 100. I don't want to be the guy who hits "X" number of days and then feels cured, or good to go, or bored with KTC. And yes, I have heard all those comments recently. I know where I was during my longest stoppage with no accountability. I was just waiting for the perfect excuse to just jump right back into full blown, active addict status. I don't want to use again, and being here has made me realize that I can control that just by posting my promise daily. In a hurry, just post a number and a promise. Have more time, add texting up to 40 people a day. Still more free time that I don't want to spend chewing that shit, post support in up to 30 groups for the people that have affected, and improved my quit and my attitude. Still more time, take on some extra responsibility here on the site. In the last 196 days, I have been at all those stages, and still fluctuate on everything but my promise. That I have done every damn day, one day at a time for 196 days.

That promise is important to me. I asked for a pickup one time while I was in Vegas for work. I posted later than I would have liked one time (thought I had posted at midnight while taking care of other business here on KTC). Both of those times were times I do not want to repeat, Iwant no NEED to make that promise myself, and make it early. These are just some of my own thoughts after answering some questions for February, and our day 200 celebrations that I just wanted to set aside to be able to look back on when I need some inspiration.
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on February 27, 2018, 08:47:00 PM
Checking back in on day 211. Yesterday marked 30 WEEKS! did not feel much different than the last post. Been working a lot, and trying to get my life back into balance, so I have been highly absent here on KTC compared to the first 150 days or so. Feel guilty about not posting everywhere that I had been previously, but was definitely getting burned out as well as ignoring other things in my life: family, friends, mainly the wife. My Valentine's day gift from her was an engraved bracelet with just one word. I have used that word over and over here in my intro, in November, in January, whenever I have to refocus. That word is balance. Balance is key, in the beginning, we tend to replace one addiction with another addiction: give up chew, obsess over KTC. AA folks tend to overdo it on smoking or coffee(at least what I can tell from the AA meetings portrayed on TV,never actually been to a meeting, no offense intended) 200 plus days in and working hard to get that balance back in my life. Done conducting, so no more late nights staying up to flip their roll (kinda felt like the old days staying up late to get one more dip in.) Making sure to get up early to get the kids ready for school, post roll ASAP in a couple spots, work all day, jump back on KTC to check out the day in November, chase down the missing, update the SSOA. Crash out, wake up , rinse, repeat. Crash out, wake up, rinse, repeat. Crash out, wake up, rinse, repeat. Get the picture?

We have recently purchased a travel trailer that should help a lot with the balancing act. We want to travel and see this great country of ours before we even really think about traveling abroad. So many things to see here and places to go. The kids are all concerned about "Will the campsites have WiFi?" My answer is pretty much "I hope not, I need the reality break; the escape from connectivity." But in the end, there will almost surely be Wifi, mainly to keep the kids from getting too mischievous.

The last of our November ABQ will hitting the second floor in less than 2 weeks. Obviously the next big stop after that is 300 and then hitting a full year quit. All of that is too far in the future to even really think about. For now, I am quit today, as I made my promise this morning. Stressing about anything beyond today as far as that goes tends to get things out of balance and the whole goal is getting back into balance. "Each player chooses a number of lands he or she controls equal to the number of lands controlled by the player who controls the fewest, then sacrifices the rest. Players discard cards and sacrifice creatures the same way." How does something so simple, and so "fair" looking, so completely throw things out of whack? GAME CHANGER, that is Balance, and that is KTC for me.
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on March 12, 2018, 10:21:00 AM
poof
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: MikeP15 on March 12, 2018, 10:44:00 AM
November 2017 ABQs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=)
We will Jack (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwPlIwUJuXw) you up....For caving
Tuesday, March 13th, 2018
We will not lose an argument to a dead plant in a plastic can.
We enjoyed a festive nicotine FREE Turkey Day

Well that was a crazy party of a month. First we of the ABQ would like to extend a big thank you to  'bubblehead' Bojax  JRan 'bubblehead' for being our conductors.
It has been 200 days for all of us but I will be damned if that should stop anyone from coming here and posting roll each and every day!

Just remember...the HOF and the second floor are not the finish line, but they are important milestones and should be celebrated! And if I know November, even after 200 days, they will definitely Jack (https://media1.giphy.com/media/hkSg0n0WDcuGc/giphy.gif) you up for caving.

Useful Resources
Thinking of caving? Read this first.  (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=9698232&t=11568995)

SSOA November 2017 - ABQ (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_FjPkEZVwsLsN282Zq7SsdUYbWIZQluznavXYGu-Zl0/edit#gid=0)

Find a copy of BLANK ROLL (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=12330661&t=30308904) here

WELCOME CENTER (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13) - Introductions (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=25) - What to expect when I quit (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/what.asp) -  Symptoms  (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/symptoms.asp)

Print this Contract to give up (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/contract-to-give-up/), put it in your wallet, and commit to signing it before you can take another dip.
Read about Tom and Jenny Kern (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/jenny-tom-kerns-story/) , It will be a tough read, but do it. Start from the beginning
Learn how to post roll (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50) or  watch this video  (https://www.killthecan.org/how-to-post-roll-at-killthecan-org-video/)
Inspiration: Words of Wisdom (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=41) -   HOF Speeches (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=9) - Hall of Legends (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=65)
Important Announcements
Continued thoughts and Prayers for dipsgone family and his wife who is kicking the shit out of breast cancer and for Cwkae30 future in laws also kicking ass!

Daily Topic For Discussion (DT)
 
November ABQ's In Good Standing
NameDays Quit, Promise, DT discussion
Names are in order by quit dateFind your name and add your promise at the end
Pepper
Cablinaggie
Swilson
aredoubleyou
Dipsgone
69Franx
JeffW
MtHunter
Murph
Jake123
MikeP
Atlanta6774
cwkae30
RachelMosley
Jhund84
mpscottmorgan
JRAN - Conductor
BoJax - Conductor
miker0351
Samrs[/size]


Missed roll Yesterday For Shame





Random Facts for the Group


Longest Streak to date - 27
Number of days in a row that roll has not been FUBAR'ed at least once - zero
Total Estimated Group $'s saved $22,864 - Crazy stuff we could buy (https://www.buzzfeed.com/ashleyperez/16-things-you-could-buy-instead-of-a-ticket-on-the-worlds-mo?utm_term=.fxJA0BDR3#.sx019n4MO)

Other supporters of the ABQ



Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on March 13, 2018, 02:18:00 PM
poof
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on March 15, 2018, 10:50:00 PM
poof
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on March 21, 2018, 01:50:00 PM
November 2017 ABQs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=)
We will Jack (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwPlIwUJuXw) you up....For caving
Thursday, April 5th, 2018
We will not lose an argument to a dead plant in a plastic can.
We enjoyed a festive nicotine FREE Turkey Day

Well that was a crazy party of a month. First we of the ABQ would like to extend a big thank you to  'bubblehead' Bojax  JRan 'bubblehead' for being our conductors.
It has been 200 days for all of us but I will be damned if that should stop anyone from coming here and posting roll each and every day!

Just remember...the HOF and the second floor are not the finish line, but they are important milestones and should be celebrated! And if I know November, even after 200 days, they will definitely Jack (https://media1.giphy.com/media/hkSg0n0WDcuGc/giphy.gif) you up for caving.

Useful Resources
Thinking of caving? Read this first.  (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=9698232&t=11568995)

SSOA November 2017 - ABQ (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_FjPkEZVwsLsN282Zq7SsdUYbWIZQluznavXYGu-Zl0/edit#gid=0)

Find a copy of BLANK ROLL (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=12343295&t=30308904) here
  • BEGINNER INFO[/url][url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13]WELCOME CENTER[/url] - [url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=25]Introductions[/url] - [url=http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/what.asp]What to expect when I quit[/url] - [url=http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/symptoms.asp] Symptoms [/url]

    Print this [url=http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/contract-to-give-up/]Contract to give up[/url], put it in your wallet, and commit to signing it before you can take another dip.
    Read about [url=http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/jenny-tom-kerns-story/]Tom and Jenny Kern[/url] , It will be a tough read, but do it. Start from the beginning
    [url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50]Learn how to post roll[/url] or [url=https://www.killthecan.org/how-to-post-roll-at-killthecan-org-video/] watch this video [/url][url=javascript:void%280%29;]
  • INSPIRATION[/url]Inspiration: [url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=41]Words of Wisdom[/url] - [url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=9]  HOF Speeches[/url] - [url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=65]Hall of Legends[/url]
(http://javascript:void%280%29;)
Important Announcements
Continued thoughts and Prayers for dipsgone family and his wife who is kicking the shit out of breast cancer and for Cwkae30 future in laws also kicking ass!

Daily Topic For Discussion (DT)
 

November ABQ's In Good Standing
NameDays Quit, Promise, DT discussion
Names are in order by quit dateFind your name and add your promise at the end
Pepper
Cablinaggie
Swilson
aredoubleyou
Dipsgone
69Franx
JeffW
MtHunter
Murph
Jake123
MikeP
Atlanta6774
cwkae30
RachelMosley
Jhund84
mpscottmorgan
JRAN - Conductor
BoJax - Conductor
miker0351
Samrs[/size]


Missed roll Yesterday For Shame





Random Facts for the Group


Longest Streak to date - 27
Number of days in a row that roll has not been FUBAR'ed at least once - zero (Do we ever expect to see an actual number here?)
Total Estimated Group $'s saved $24,026 - Crazy stuff we could buy (https://www.buzzfeed.com/ashleyperez/16-things-you-could-buy-instead-of-a-ticket-on-the-worlds-mo?utm_term=.fxJA0BDR3#.sx019n4MO)

Other supporters of the ABQ



Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on April 02, 2018, 04:08:00 PM
Day 245, 37 weeks of quitting ODAATEDD! Just getting back into the flow of work after taking the kids to Gatlinburg/Pigeon Forge for Spring break. Had a great time, had a blast at the Jayell ranch riding ATVs, not so much fun riding horses there. Think I will never need to ride a horse again. Rode the tram up to Öber Gatlinburg, and then the Scenic Lift to the top of the mountain, watched the kids ride the alpine slide and the Alpine Coaster. Had campfires, made smores, walked the dog, set up camp, broke down camp, ate a lot of great food, bought a pair of Dan Post boots, watched the kids ride several different go carts, and never once did I cave and have a dip. Not once did I fail to post roll while out of town. Really tired of chasing the same people down to get on roll. I believe it has gotten to the point of "Keep doing it until it affects your quit" it has started to affect my quit. I'm done chasing the 4-6 people of our 16 that are left. We have all been doing this for over 220 days! I have to assume at this point that if you don't post, or check in late, that your quit is not all that important to you. In that case, it's just no longer that important to me. If I don't see you on roll, I know I cannot count on you to help me in my time of need. I'll still try to be there for you in your time of need; I doubt you will even reach out if there is a chance of a cave so it is what it is. This should probably just be in November, but I am tired of bitching in there about the same things over and over. Time to focus in on some new quitters and give them the help they need
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Candoit on April 02, 2018, 09:30:00 PM
Quote from: 69Franx
Day 245, 37 weeks of quitting ODAATEDD! Just getting back into the flow of work after taking the kids to Gatlinburg/Pigeon Forge for Spring break. Had a great time, had a blast at the Jayell ranch riding ATVs, not so much fun riding horses there. Think I will never need to ride a horse again. Rode the tram up to Öber Gatlinburg, and then the Scenic Lift to the top of the mountain, watched the kids ride the alpine slide and the Alpine Coaster. Had campfires, made smores, walked the dog, set up camp, broke down camp, ate a lot of great food, bought a pair of Dan Post boots, watched the kids ride several different go carts, and never once did I cave and have a dip. Not once did I fail to post roll while out of town. Really tired of chasing the same people down to get on roll. I believe it has gotten to the point of "Keep doing it until it affects your quit" it has started to affect my quit. I'm done chasing the 4-6 people of our 16 that are left. We have all been doing this for over 220 days! I have to assume at this point that if you don't post, or check in late, that your quit is not all that important to you. In that case, it's just no longer that important to me. If I don't see you on roll, I know I cannot count on you to help me in my time of need. I'll still try to be there for you in your time of need; I doubt you will even reach out if there is a chance of a cave so it is what it is. This should probably just be in November, but I am tired of bitching in there about the same things over and over. Time to focus in on some new quitters and give them the help they need
You do what you need to do in order for you to stay quit. Positive selfishness. If you help a few find freedom along the way, thatÂ’s a bonus.
You got this!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on April 09, 2018, 11:18:00 AM
November 2017 ABQs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=)
We will Jack (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwPlIwUJuXw) you up....For caving
Wednesday, May 9th, 2018
We will not lose an argument to a dead plant in a plastic can.
We enjoyed a festive nicotine FREE Turkey Day

Well that was a crazy party of a month. First we of the ABQ would like to extend a big thank you to  'bubblehead' Bojax  JRan 'bubblehead' for being our conductors.
It has been 200 days for all of us but I will be damned if that should stop anyone from coming here and posting roll each and every day!

Just remember...the HOF and the second floor are not the finish line, but they are important milestones and should be celebrated! And if I know November, even after 200 days, they will definitely Jack (https://media1.giphy.com/media/hkSg0n0WDcuGc/giphy.gif) you up for caving.

Useful Resources
Thinking of caving? Read this first.  (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=9698232&t=11568995)

SSOA November 2017 - ABQ (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_FjPkEZVwsLsN282Zq7SsdUYbWIZQluznavXYGu-Zl0/edit#gid=0)

Find a copy of BLANK ROLL (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=12421364&t=30308904) here
  • BEGINNER INFO[/url][url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13]WELCOME CENTER[/url] - [url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=25]Introductions[/url] - [url=http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/what.asp]What to expect when I quit[/url] - [url=http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/symptoms.asp] Symptoms [/url]

    Print this [url=http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/contract-to-give-up/]Contract to give up[/url], put it in your wallet, and commit to signing it before you can take another dip.
    Read about [url=http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/jenny-tom-kerns-story/]Tom and Jenny Kern[/url] , It will be a tough read, but do it. Start from the beginning
    [url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50]Learn how to post roll[/url] or [url=https://www.killthecan.org/how-to-post-roll-at-killthecan-org-video/] watch this video [/url][url=javascript:void%280%29;]
  • INSPIRATION[/url]Inspiration: [url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=41]Words of Wisdom[/url] - [url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=9]  HOF Speeches[/url] - [url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=65]Hall of Legends[/url]
(http://javascript:void%280%29;)
Important Announcements
Continued thoughts and Prayers for dipsgone family and his wife who is kicking the shit out of breast cancer and for Cwkae30 future in laws also kicking ass!

Daily Topic For Discussion (DT)
 

November ABQ's In Good Standing
NameDays Quit, Promise, DT discussion
Names are in order by quit dateFind your name and add your promise at the end
Pepper
Cablinaggie
Swilson
aredoubleyou
Dipsgone
69Franx
JeffW
MtHunter
Murph
Jake123
MikeP
Atlanta6774
cwkae30
RachelMosley
mpscottmorgan
JRAN - Conductor
BoJax - Conductor
miker0351
Samrs[/size]


Missed roll Yesterday For Shame





Random Facts for the Group


Longest Streak to date - 27
Number of days in a row that roll has not been FUBAR'ed at least once - zero (Do we ever expect to see an actual number here?)
Total Estimated Group $'s saved $27,172 - Crazy stuff we could buy (https://www.buzzfeed.com/ashleyperez/16-things-you-could-buy-instead-of-a-ticket-on-the-worlds-mo?utm_term=.fxJA0BDR3#.sx019n4MO)

Other supporters of the ABQ



Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: chris2alaska on April 10, 2018, 01:28:00 AM
Hey Franx,

I wanted to thank you for always specifically supporting me when you post your support in April 18. It means a lot to me to see my name after someone elseÂ’s promise. It strengthens my quit more than you know.

So thank you and my digits are in you inbox.

chris2alaska
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on April 22, 2018, 10:43:00 PM
November 2017 ABQs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=)
We will Jack (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwPlIwUJuXw) you up....For caving
Monday, April 23th, 2018
We will not lose an argument to a dead plant in a plastic can.
We enjoyed a festive nicotine FREE Turkey Day

Well that was a crazy party of a month. First we of the ABQ would like to extend a big thank you to  'bubblehead' Bojax  JRan 'bubblehead' for being our conductors.
It has been 200 days for all of us but I will be damned if that should stop anyone from coming here and posting roll each and every day!

Just remember...the HOF and the second floor are not the finish line, but they are important milestones and should be celebrated! And if I know November, even after 200 days, they will definitely Jack (https://media1.giphy.com/media/hkSg0n0WDcuGc/giphy.gif) you up for caving.

Useful Resources
Thinking of caving? Read this first.  (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=9698232&t=11568995)

SSOA November 2017 - ABQ (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_FjPkEZVwsLsN282Zq7SsdUYbWIZQluznavXYGu-Zl0/edit#gid=0)

Find a copy of BLANK ROLL (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=12421364&t=30308904) here
  • BEGINNER INFO[/url][url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13]WELCOME CENTER[/url] - [url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=25]Introductions[/url] - [url=http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/what.asp]What to expect when I quit[/url] - [url=http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/symptoms.asp] Symptoms [/url]

    Print this [url=http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/contract-to-give-up/]Contract to give up[/url], put it in your wallet, and commit to signing it before you can take another dip.
    Read about [url=http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/jenny-tom-kerns-story/]Tom and Jenny Kern[/url] , It will be a tough read, but do it. Start from the beginning
    [url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50]Learn how to post roll[/url] or [url=https://www.killthecan.org/how-to-post-roll-at-killthecan-org-video/] watch this video [/url][url=javascript:void%280%29;]
  • INSPIRATION[/url]Inspiration: [url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=41]Words of Wisdom[/url] - [url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=9]  HOF Speeches[/url] - [url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=65]Hall of Legends[/url]
(http://javascript:void%280%29;)
Important Announcements
Continued thoughts and Prayers for dipsgone family and his wife who is kicking the shit out of breast cancer and for Cwkae30 future in laws also kicking ass!

Daily Topic For Discussion (DT)
 

November ABQ's In Good Standing
NameDays Quit, Promise, DT discussion
Names are in order by quit dateFind your name and add your promise at the end
Pepper
Cablinaggie
Swilson
aredoubleyou
Dipsgone
69Franx
JeffW
MtHunter
Murph
Jake123
MikeP
Atlanta6774
cwkae30
RachelMosley
mpscottmorgan
JRAN - Conductor
BoJax - Conductor
miker0351
Samrs[/size]


Missed roll Yesterday For Shame


Nobody, 1 day in a row now!


Random Facts for the Group


Longest Streak to date - 27
Number of days in a row that roll has not been FUBAR'ed at least once - zero (Do we ever expect to see an actual number here?)
Total Estimated Group $'s saved $27,191 - Crazy stuff we could buy (https://www.buzzfeed.com/ashleyperez/16-things-you-could-buy-instead-of-a-ticket-on-the-worlds-mo?utm_term=.fxJA0BDR3#.sx019n4MO)

Other supporters of the ABQ



Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: JRan on April 27, 2018, 06:10:00 AM
Poof
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on May 01, 2018, 12:24:00 AM
November 2017 ABQs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=)
We will Jack (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwPlIwUJuXw) you up....For caving
Tuesday, May 1st, 2018
We will not lose an argument to a dead plant in a plastic can.
We enjoyed a festive nicotine FREE Turkey Day

Well that was a crazy party of a month. First we of the ABQ would like to extend a big thank you to  'bubblehead' Bojax  JRan 'bubblehead' for being our conductors.
It has been 200 days for all of us but I will be damned if that should stop anyone from coming here and posting roll each and every day!

Just remember...the HOF and the second floor are not the finish line, but they are important milestones and should be celebrated! And if I know November, even after 200 days, they will definitely Jack (https://media1.giphy.com/media/hkSg0n0WDcuGc/giphy.gif) you up for caving.

Useful Resources
Thinking of caving? Read this first.  (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=9698232&t=11568995)

SSOA November 2017 - ABQ (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_FjPkEZVwsLsN282Zq7SsdUYbWIZQluznavXYGu-Zl0/edit#gid=0)

Find a copy of BLANK ROLL (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=12421364&t=30308904) here
  • BEGINNER INFO[/url][url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13]WELCOME CENTER[/url] - [url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=25]Introductions[/url] - [url=http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/what.asp]What to expect when I quit[/url] - [url=http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/symptoms.asp] Symptoms [/url]

    Print this [url=http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/contract-to-give-up/]Contract to give up[/url], put it in your wallet, and commit to signing it before you can take another dip.
    Read about [url=http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/jenny-tom-kerns-story/]Tom and Jenny Kern[/url] , It will be a tough read, but do it. Start from the beginning
    [url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50]Learn how to post roll[/url] or [url=https://www.killthecan.org/how-to-post-roll-at-killthecan-org-video/] watch this video [/url][url=javascript:void%280%29;]
  • INSPIRATION[/url]Inspiration: [url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=41]Words of Wisdom[/url] - [url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=9]  HOF Speeches[/url] - [url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=65]Hall of Legends[/url]
(http://javascript:void%280%29;)
Important Announcements
Continued thoughts and Prayers for dipsgone family and his wife who is kicking the shit out of breast cancer and for Cwkae30 future in laws also kicking ass!

Daily Topic For Discussion (DT)
 

November ABQ's In Good Standing
NameDays Quit, Promise, DT discussion
Names are in order by quit dateFind your name and add your promise at the end
Pepper
Cablinaggie
Swilson
aredoubleyou
Dipsgone
69Franx 274 ABQ
JeffW
MtHunter
Murph
Jake123
MikeP
Atlanta6774
cwkae30
RachelMosley
mpscottmorgan
JRAN - Conductor
BoJax - Conductor
miker0351
Samrs[/size]


Missed roll Yesterday For Shame





Random Facts for the Group


Longest Streak to date - 27
Number of days in a row that roll has not been FUBAR'ed at least once - zero (Do we ever expect to see an actual number here?)
Total Estimated Group $'s saved $24,026 - Crazy stuff we could buy (https://www.buzzfeed.com/ashleyperez/16-things-you-could-buy-instead-of-a-ticket-on-the-worlds-mo?utm_term=.fxJA0BDR3#.sx019n4MO)

Other supporters of the ABQ



Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on May 08, 2018, 01:32:00 PM
Day 281, 40 weeks into my quit and the rest of my life to make the decision on a daily basis. The last 3 weeks have been beyond trying and I have not wavered. That is a good sign, from a shitty experience, to me that I am in this for the long haul. The outpouring of support from KTC in general has been unbelievable. I think my cohort in conducting Swilson was a huge driving force in the support that we have received, so I cannot thank you enough brother. Cards, flowers, unbelievable food from across the country, way above and beyond expectations. The wife was not very happy with the time I have spent here solidifying my quit, but I think the last three weeks have helped her see what I get here from all of you. An unbelievable support network, the likes of which neither of us has even received from family. Family has been there, but the common bond we all share here so readily ties us all closer together than just blood alone can ever do. Really just wanted to say thanx again, and leave this here for myself in case I ever forget why I need KTC.
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Pepper on May 09, 2018, 09:29:00 AM
November 2017 ABQs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=)
We will Jack (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwPlIwUJuXw) you up....For caving
Wednesday, May 9th, 2018
We will not lose an argument to a dead plant in a plastic can.



(http://javascript:void%280%29;)
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on May 14, 2018, 03:14:00 PM
Day 287, 41 weeks and just dropping off some more thoughts. If you are reading this and are a ninja quitter as you were a ninja dipper, I have to say "tell someone, tell everyone, tell whomever matters to you." After our tragedy last month, I have spent a lot of time with a lot of family members that I do not see enough of. They were all pretty much in the dark about my nicotine usage, let alone my efforts to quit. Explaining the encouraging words, flowers, and visits at our son's memorial last month, I had to explain KTC, and what it means to me/does for me to people who had no idea I had ever used. Those closest around me knew, the wife, people at work (some of them) and some friends. My parents had no idea, although they were present the day my addiction went from occasional usage to a daily, oh fuck I'm out, addiction. My dad is keeping track of my day count with me and throws out the number any time we speak. He was a bad ass quitter before there was such a thing. He quit cigarettes cold turkey at 36 after starting around 12 years old. He was hard core, smoking 1-2 packs a day of Lucky Strikes. Having a total Bad ass like that in my corner has helped me turn another corner in my quit. That is some strong inspiration to stay nicotine free. Anyways, the point of this is : tell people what you are doing. Don't tell them for a pat on the back, tell them so they can try to understand what is going on with you. tell them so they can kick you in the ass if you are close to slipping. Just tell them and use their knowledge as a driving force to keep your word ODAATEDD!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on May 16, 2018, 09:57:00 PM
November 2017 ABQs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=)
We will Jack (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwPlIwUJuXw) you up....For caving
Thursday, May 17th, 2018
We will not lose an argument to a dead plant in a plastic can.
We enjoyed a festive nicotine FREE Turkey Day

Well that was a crazy party of a month. First we of the ABQ would like to extend a big thank you to  'bubblehead' Bojax  JRan 'bubblehead' for being our conductors.
It has been 200 days for all of us but I will be damned if that should stop anyone from coming here and posting roll each and every day!

Just remember...the HOF and the second floor are not the finish line, but they are important milestones and should be celebrated! And if I know November, even after 200 days, they will definitely Jack (https://media1.giphy.com/media/hkSg0n0WDcuGc/giphy.gif) you up for caving.

Useful Resources
Thinking of caving? Read this first.  (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=9698232&t=11568995)

SSOA November 2017 - ABQ (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_FjPkEZVwsLsN282Zq7SsdUYbWIZQluznavXYGu-Zl0/edit#gid=0)

Find a copy of BLANK ROLL (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=12503539&t=30308904) here
  • BEGINNER INFO[/url][url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13]WELCOME CENTER[/url] - [url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=25]Introductions[/url] - [url=http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/what.asp]What to expect when I quit[/url] - [url=http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/symptoms.asp] Symptoms [/url]

    Print this [url=http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/contract-to-give-up/]Contract to give up[/url], put it in your wallet, and commit to signing it before you can take another dip.
    Read about [url=http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/jenny-tom-kerns-story/]Tom and Jenny Kern[/url] , It will be a tough read, but do it. Start from the beginning
    [url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50]Learn how to post roll[/url] or [url=https://www.killthecan.org/how-to-post-roll-at-killthecan-org-video/] watch this video [/url][url=javascript:void%280%29;]
  • INSPIRATION[/url]Inspiration: [url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=41]Words of Wisdom[/url] - [url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=9]  HOF Speeches[/url] - [url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=65]Hall of Legends[/url]
(http://javascript:void%280%29;)
Important Announcements
Continued thoughts and Prayers for dipsgone family and his wife who is kicking the shit out of breast cancer and for Cwkae30 future in laws also kicking ass!

Daily Topic For Discussion (DT)
 

November ABQ's In Good Standing
NameDays Quit, Promise, DT discussion
Names are in order by quit dateFind your name and add your promise at the end
Pepper
Cablinaggie
Swilson
aredoubleyou
Dipsgone
69Franx
JeffW
MtHunter
Murph
Jake123
MikeP
Atlanta6774
cwkae30
RachelMosley
mpscottmorgan
JRAN - Conductor
BoJax - Conductor
miker0351
Samrs[/size]


Missed roll Yesterday For Shame


NONE 2 DAYS IN A ROW


Random Facts for the Group


Longest Streak to date - 27
Number of days in a row that roll has not been FUBAR'ed at least once - zero (Do we ever expect to see an actual number here?)
Total Estimated Group $'s saved $28,072 - Crazy stuff we could buy (https://www.buzzfeed.com/ashleyperez/16-things-you-could-buy-instead-of-a-ticket-on-the-worlds-mo?utm_term=.fxJA0BDR3#.sx019n4MO)

Other supporters of the ABQ



Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: mpscottmorgan on May 22, 2018, 06:14:00 AM
November 2017 ABQs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=)
We will Jack (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwPlIwUJuXw) you up....For caving
Tuesday, May 22nd, 2018
We will not lose an argument to a dead plant in a plastic can.
We enjoyed a festive nicotine FREE Turkey Day
Congratulations all of you ABQ's as you exit the elevator on the third floor! At this point we all should be disciplined enough to come here and post roll every day, if for no other reason than simple respect to the rest of us who have made it this far.

Just remember...the HOF and the third floor are not the finish line, but they are important milestones and should be celebrated! And if I know November, even after 300 days, they will definitely Jack (https://media1.giphy.com/media/hkSg0n0WDcuGc/giphy.gif) you up for caving.

Useful Resources
Thinking of caving? Read this first.  (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=9698232&t=11568995)

SSOA November 2017 - ABQ (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_FjPkEZVwsLsN282Zq7SsdUYbWIZQluznavXYGu-Zl0/edit#gid=0)

Find a copy of BLANK ROLL (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=12503539&t=30308904) here
  • BEGINNER INFO[/url][url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13]WELCOME CENTER[/url] - [url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=25]Introductions[/url] - [url=http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/what.asp]What to expect when I quit[/url] - [url=http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/symptoms.asp] Symptoms [/url]

    Print this [url=http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/contract-to-give-up/]Contract to give up[/url], put it in your wallet, and commit to signing it before you can take another dip.
    Read about [url=http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/jenny-tom-kerns-story/]Tom and Jenny Kern[/url] , It will be a tough read, but do it. Start from the beginning
    [url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50]Learn how to post roll[/url] or [url=https://www.killthecan.org/how-to-post-roll-at-killthecan-org-video/] watch this video [/url][url=javascript:void%280%29;]
  • INSPIRATION[/url]Inspiration: [url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=41]Words of Wisdom[/url] - [url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=9]  HOF Speeches[/url] - [url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=65]Hall of Legends[/url]
(http://javascript:void%280%29;)
Important Announcements
Continued thoughts and Prayers for dipsgone family and his wife who is kicking the shit out of breast cancer and for Cwkae30 future in laws also kicking ass!

Daily Topic For Discussion (DT)
 

November ABQ's In Good Standing
NameDays Quit, Promise, DT discussion
Names are in order by quit dateFind your name and add your promise at the end
Pepper
Cablinaggie
Swilson
aredoubleyou
Dipsgone
69Franx
JeffW
MtHunter
Murph
Jake123
MikeP
Atlanta6774
cwkae30
RachelMosley
mpscottmorgan 273
JRAN - Conductor
BoJax - Conductor
miker0351
Samrs[/size]


Missed roll Yesterday For Shame





Random Facts for the Group


Longest Streak to date - 27
Number of days in a row that roll has not been FUBAR'ed at least once - zero (Do we ever expect to see an actual number here?)
Total Estimated Group $'s saved $27,172 - Crazy stuff we could buy (https://www.buzzfeed.com/ashleyperez/16-things-you-could-buy-instead-of-a-ticket-on-the-worlds-mo?utm_term=.fxJA0BDR3#.sx019n4MO)

Other supporters of the ABQ



Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on May 27, 2018, 10:58:00 AM
Day 300! Been here before though, so nothing special here. When I have gotten through everything life can throw at me through all seasons of the year twice, I might feel like I accomplished something. Thanx for all the support.
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Candoit on May 27, 2018, 11:35:00 AM
Quote from: 69Franx
Day 300! Been here before though, so nothing special here. When I have gotten through everything life can throw at me through all seasons of the year twice, I might feel like I accomplished something. Thanx for all the support.
You can never see the view from the top with out seeing the bottom of the valleys. Enjoy the day , you earned it. Catch you on roll in the AM.
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Athan on May 27, 2018, 12:51:00 PM
300 hmmmm....yes....has a bit of a Spartan ring to it doesn't it. Like the ringing (or is it clanging?) of large bronze testicles.
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: JRan on May 31, 2018, 01:31:00 AM
November 2017 ABQs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=)
We will Jack (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwPlIwUJuXw) you up....For caving
Thursday, May 31st, 2018
We will not lose an argument to a dead plant in a plastic can.
We enjoyed a festive nicotine FREE Turkey Day
Congratulations all of you ABQ's as you exit the elevator on the third floor! At this point we all should be disciplined enough to come here and post roll every day, if for no other reason than simple respect to the rest of us who have made it this far.

Just remember...the HOF and the third floor are not the finish line, but they are important milestones and should be celebrated! And if I know November, even after 300 days, they will definitely Jack (https://media1.giphy.com/media/hkSg0n0WDcuGc/giphy.gif) you up for caving.

Useful Resources
Thinking of caving? Read this first.  (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=9698232&t=11568995)

SSOA November 2017 - ABQ (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_FjPkEZVwsLsN282Zq7SsdUYbWIZQluznavXYGu-Zl0/edit#gid=0)

Find a copy of BLANK ROLL (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=12503539&t=30308904) here
  • BEGINNER INFO[/url][url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13]WELCOME CENTER[/url] - [url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=25]Introductions[/url] - [url=http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/what.asp]What to expect when I quit[/url] - [url=http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/symptoms.asp] Symptoms [/url]

    Print this [url=http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/contract-to-give-up/]Contract to give up[/url], put it in your wallet, and commit to signing it before you can take another dip.
    Read about [url=http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/jenny-tom-kerns-story/]Tom and Jenny Kern[/url] , It will be a tough read, but do it. Start from the beginning
    [url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50]Learn how to post roll[/url] or [url=https://www.killthecan.org/how-to-post-roll-at-killthecan-org-video/] watch this video [/url][url=javascript:void%280%29;]
  • INSPIRATION[/url]Inspiration: [url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=41]Words of Wisdom[/url] - [url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=9]  HOF Speeches[/url] - [url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=65]Hall of Legends[/url]
(http://javascript:void%280%29;)
Important Announcements
Continued thoughts and Prayers for dipsgone family and his wife who is kicking the shit out of breast cancer and for Cwkae30 future in laws also kicking ass!

Daily Topic For Discussion (DT)
 

November ABQ's In Good Standing
NameDays Quit, Promise, DT discussion
Names are in order by quit dateFind your name and add your promise at the end
Pepper
Cablinaggie
Swilson
aredoubleyou
Dipsgone
69Franx
JeffW
MtHunter
Murph
Jake123
MikeP
Atlanta6774
cwkae30
RachelMosley
mpscottmorgan
JRAN - Conductor362 with the ABQs!
BoJax - Conductor
miker0351
Samrs[/size]


Missed roll Yesterday For Shame





Random Facts for the Group


Longest Streak to date - 27
Number of days in a row that roll has not been FUBAR'ed at least once - 10
Total Estimated Group $'s saved $27,172 - Crazy stuff we could buy (https://www.buzzfeed.com/ashleyperez/16-things-you-could-buy-instead-of-a-ticket-on-the-worlds-mo?utm_term=.fxJA0BDR3#.sx019n4MO)

Other supporters of the ABQ



Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: JRan on May 31, 2018, 01:32:00 AM
Poof
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Candoit on June 04, 2018, 02:30:00 PM
44 weeks of freedom! Enjoy the rewards that the hard work brings!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: JB65 on June 06, 2018, 09:13:00 AM
Sorry I missed your 300! Nice job man :)
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: ChickDip on June 06, 2018, 11:59:00 AM
Quote from: JB65
Sorry I missed your 300! Nice job man :)
Congrats on The 3rd floor !
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: pab1964 on June 10, 2018, 05:04:00 PM
Quote from: ChickDip
Quote from: JB65
Sorry I missed your 300! Nice job man :)
Congrats on The 3rd floor !
Wow how did I miss that? Congratulations bud
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on June 11, 2018, 03:53:00 PM
Roughly 2 weeks later, day 315 and apparently my math sucks and I have been sending out some week counts as well as day counts. I did the simple math incorrectly, a big thanx to Candoit getting it right last week. Big thanx also to candoit, Chick, Pab, JB and everyone else who sent congrats for 300. Sorry I had not checked back in here earlier to see those congratulations.

Today does mark 315, and I got an email from my father yesterday asking me if I was still KTC 314? Damn, I mention this whole thing to him once in the middle of my wife's 20 year old son's memorial service, and he still has the day count correct 51 days after hearing about it for the first time. For anyone who cant seem to get their own day count under control, let that sink in. He quit smoking over 30 years ago, remembers how hard it was, and is still pushing me to make sure I am on point. Get your numbers correct, get your ass on roll daily and early and this process works. I said it recently as well, tell everyone what you are doing. Everyone, even if they did not know that you were a nicotine addict. It may be a tough conversation at first, but every person involved in your quit can make a difference.

Spent some time (read as "A lot of time") reading through Candoit's intro. That guy is a total bad ass quitter, who quits through whatever life throws at him. He has had some enormously rough times in the last 3 years, and is in here every day to post his roll and offer support. Can't say how much he helped me early on and especially back in January while I was conducting. I added a great quote from him to my signature line today. I wrote it down when I read it 3 weeks ago, and now don't really recall the context, but it fits for me with the loss of that step son 8.5 weeks ago. We are working to find a way to move forward in our lives knowing full well that we will never "move on or forget." Thanx again brother.
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on June 12, 2018, 12:19:00 AM
November 2017 ABQs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=)
We will Jack (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwPlIwUJuXw) you up....For caving
Tuesday, June 12th 2018
We will not lose an argument to a dead plant in a plastic can.
We enjoyed a festive nicotine FREE Turkey Day
Congratulations all of you ABQ's as you exit the elevator on the third floor! At this point we all should be disciplined enough to come here and post roll every day, if for no other reason than simple respect to the rest of us who have made it this far.

Just remember...the HOF and the third floor are not the finish line, but they are important milestones and should be celebrated! And if I know November, even after 300 days, they will definitely Jack (https://media1.giphy.com/media/hkSg0n0WDcuGc/giphy.gif) you up for caving.

Useful Resources
Thinking of caving? Read this first.  (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=9698232&t=11568995)

SSOA November 2017 - ABQ (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_FjPkEZVwsLsN282Zq7SsdUYbWIZQluznavXYGu-Zl0/edit#gid=0)

Find a copy of BLANK ROLL (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=12503539&t=30308904) here
  • BEGINNER INFO[/url][url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13]WELCOME CENTER[/url] - [url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=25]Introductions[/url] - [url=http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/what.asp]What to expect when I quit[/url] - [url=http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/symptoms.asp] Symptoms [/url]

    Print this [url=http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/contract-to-give-up/]Contract to give up[/url], put it in your wallet, and commit to signing it before you can take another dip.
    Read about [url=http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/jenny-tom-kerns-story/]Tom and Jenny Kern[/url] , It will be a tough read, but do it. Start from the beginning
    [url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50]Learn how to post roll[/url] or [url=https://www.killthecan.org/how-to-post-roll-at-killthecan-org-video/] watch this video [/url][url=javascript:void%280%29;]
  • INSPIRATION[/url]Inspiration: [url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=41]Words of Wisdom[/url] - [url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=9]  HOF Speeches[/url] - [url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=65]Hall of Legends[/url]
(http://javascript:void%280%29;)
Important Announcements
Continued thoughts and Prayers for dipsgone family and his wife who is kicking the shit out of breast cancer and for Cwkae30 future in laws also kicking ass!

Daily Topic For Discussion (DT)
 

November ABQ's In Good Standing
NameDays Quit, Promise, DT discussion
Names are in order by quit dateFind your name and add your promise at the end
Pepper
Cablinaggie
Swilson
aredoubleyou
Dipsgone
69Franx 316 and I want to quit again with the ABQ today. All on board yesterday, can we go a week without anyone missing roll? Let's make it happen!
JeffW
MtHunter
Murph
Jake123
MikeP
Atlanta6774
cwkae30
RachelMosley
mpscottmorgan
JRAN - Conductor
BoJax - Conductor
miker0351
Samrs[/size]


Missed roll Yesterday For Shame





Random Facts for the Group


Longest Streak to date - 27
Number of days in a row that roll has not been FUBAR'ed at least once - 10
Total Estimated Group $'s saved $27,172 - Crazy stuff we could buy (https://www.buzzfeed.com/ashleyperez/16-things-you-could-buy-instead-of-a-ticket-on-the-worlds-mo?utm_term=.fxJA0BDR3#.sx019n4MO)

Other supporters of the ABQ



Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on June 12, 2018, 12:19:00 AM
Damn I really hate when I do that
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: worktowin on June 12, 2018, 12:26:00 AM
Quote from: 69Franx
Damn I really hate when I do that
Hahaha!

Nice work hijacking your intro!!!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on June 12, 2018, 11:42:00 AM
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: 69Franx
Damn I really hate when I do that
Hahaha!

Nice work hijacking your intro!!!
That "blank" roll os part of my intro, just sometimes begin editing it here after selecting and cutting it to paste over into November. Not the first time, wont be the last time either I am sure
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Broccoli-saurus on June 12, 2018, 12:39:00 PM
I do a really piss poor job or reading and writing in intros but I never sent letters to my grandma either even though she sent me one every week. My lack of fucking up your intro doesn't mean that I don't love you man. It's awesome to have developed a few deep friendships through KTC and yours is one of them. I'm in your corner every step of the way. Love ya man, can't wait to feel your ass in November!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on June 12, 2018, 03:39:00 PM
Quote from: Broccoli-saurus
I do a really piss poor job or reading and writing in intros but I never sent letters to my grandma either even though she sent me one every week. My lack of fucking up your intro doesn't mean that I don't love you man. It's awesome to have developed a few deep friendships through KTC and yours is one of them. I'm in your corner every step of the way. Love ya man, can't wait to feel your ass in November!
Well at least you're making up for it today!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Broccoli-saurus on June 12, 2018, 03:58:00 PM
Quote from: 69Franx
Quote from: Broccoli-saurus
I do a really piss poor job or reading and writing in intros but I never sent letters to my grandma either even though she sent me one every week. My lack of fucking up your intro doesn't mean that I don't love you man. It's awesome to have developed a few deep friendships through KTC and yours is one of them. I'm in your corner every step of the way. Love ya man, can't wait to feel your ass in November!
Well at least you're making up for it today!
Well you and that tow truck driver started it.
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on June 16, 2018, 12:19:00 AM
November 2017 ABQs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=)
We will Jack (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwPlIwUJuXw) you up....For caving
Saturday June 16th, 2018
We will not lose an argument to a dead plant in a plastic can.
We enjoyed a festive nicotine FREE Turkey Day
Congratulations all of you ABQ's as you exit the elevator on the third floor! At this point we all should be disciplined enough to come here and post roll every day, if for no other reason than simple respect to the rest of us who have made it this far.

Just remember...the HOF and the third floor are not the finish line, but they are important milestones and should be celebrated! And if I know November, even after 300 days, they will definitely Jack (https://media1.giphy.com/media/hkSg0n0WDcuGc/giphy.gif) you up for caving.

Useful Resources
Thinking of caving? Read this first.  (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=9698232&t=11568995)

SSOA November 2017 - ABQ (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_FjPkEZVwsLsN282Zq7SsdUYbWIZQluznavXYGu-Zl0/edit#gid=0)

Find a copy of BLANK ROLL (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=12503539&t=30308904) here
  • BEGINNER INFO[/url][url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13]WELCOME CENTER[/url] - [url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=25]Introductions[/url] - [url=http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/what.asp]What to expect when I quit[/url] - [url=http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/symptoms.asp] Symptoms [/url]

    Print this [url=http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/contract-to-give-up/]Contract to give up[/url], put it in your wallet, and commit to signing it before you can take another dip.
    Read about [url=http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/jenny-tom-kerns-story/]Tom and Jenny Kern[/url] , It will be a tough read, but do it. Start from the beginning
    [url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50]Learn how to post roll[/url] or [url=https://www.killthecan.org/how-to-post-roll-at-killthecan-org-video/] watch this video [/url][url=javascript:void%280%29;]
  • INSPIRATION[/url]Inspiration: [url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=41]Words of Wisdom[/url] - [url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=9]  HOF Speeches[/url] - [url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=65]Hall of Legends[/url]
(http://javascript:void%280%29;)
Important Announcements
Continued thoughts and Prayers for dipsgone family and his wife who is kicking the shit out of breast cancer and for Cwkae30 future in laws also kicking ass!

Daily Topic For Discussion (DT)
 

November ABQ's In Good Standing
NameDays Quit, Promise, DT discussion
Names are in order by quit dateFind your name and add your promise at the end
Pepper
Cablinaggie
Swilson
aredoubleyou
Dipsgone
69Franx 320 and proud to quit with y'all this weekend
JeffW
MtHunter
Murph
Jake123
MikeP
Atlanta6774
cwkae30
RachelMosley
mpscottmorgan
JRAN - Conductor
BoJax - Conductor
miker0351
Samrs[/size]


Missed roll Yesterday For Shame


Nobody, 5 days in a row!


Random Facts for the Group


Longest Streak to date - 27
Total Estimated Group $'s saved $30,932 - Crazy stuff we could buy (https://www.buzzfeed.com/ashleyperez/16-things-you-could-buy-instead-of-a-ticket-on-the-worlds-mo?utm_term=.fxJA0BDR3#.sx019n4MO)

Other supporters of the ABQ



Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on June 18, 2018, 06:09:00 PM
322/46 weeks! Everyday does seem to get better. The vets were right. Then I get the news this morning that one of my early supporters died on Friday. RIP Air Force Addict, you will be sorely missed. Makes me really want to focus in on traveling and meeting some of the people who have influenced or supported me so much for the last 322 days. We like traveling, and do a lot of it. I will be trying harder to make connections with the quitters in my life as we travel. Any and all who make it near Cincinnati should reach out to me for a meet up and I will be reaching out as we travel. Thank you again Randall for all the inspiration and advice, I can never repay you but I can work on paying it forward.
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on June 25, 2018, 03:34:00 AM
poof
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on July 02, 2018, 03:18:00 PM
336/48 weeks of quitting with y'all. Damn it feels good. Spent some time this afternoon looking at old posts, MIQ ABQs, Fury SSOA among other things. Some scary stats in those pages. Also found some things I may not be too proud of. I know that during the course of time, I pissed off some of the ABQ and they left the fold soon after. I just wanted to give them what they came here for, accountability. Was it harsh? Probably. Was it necessary? Definitely. Read through Wastepanels' list of what he has learned here on KTC. His line about knowing the difference between hard truths and being an asshole insults really struck home. I hope in the past, and even today in January that I am only as big of an asshole as is needed to get the job done. I don't want to lose anymore of the ABQ, I want to quit with them and the rest of the Fury for a long time to come, bar none. I don't want to be one of those who drift away and disappear. I know what this site has done for me and I would like it to keep doing those things for me. No real point to this post, just another note really for myself if I ever need help keeping my priorities straight.
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on July 16, 2018, 04:19:00 PM
350 days/ 50 weeks. Nothing much new to add to the last couple weeks. We did take a vacation up to the UP of Michigan. A lot of driving, which was always a huge trigger. Had some Jake's Mint pouches along for the ride and never craved nicotine the whole time. Getting closer to the ABQ hitting the 1 year mark. One year will be nice, but I have done that before on my own, without KTC, so the 2 year, 3 year, and comma marks will be more significant to me. The only way to get there though is to continue WUPPing ODAATEDD, so thats the plan
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Broccoli-saurus on July 31, 2018, 12:52:00 PM
Congrats on a full year quit, brother! You've turned into one awesome quitter and a great inspiration to many others. I'm proud to be quit with you, sir!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Skolvikings on July 31, 2018, 01:00:00 PM
Proud as hell to have you in my corner, huge congrats my brother!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: SRains918 on July 31, 2018, 03:22:00 PM
Congrats (again, here) on completing your first full lap brother!

I'm proud AF to be quit with you today and every day! Thanks for everything you've done for me!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on July 31, 2018, 08:55:00 PM
So yeah, 1 year today. Why have I been in such a pissy mood all damn day?
Really no answers to that
No fake the last 2 days, could be it, but thats not addictive, right?
Maybe its all in my head
Or maybe it was having one too may homebrews last night (3.5 when the keg blew)
The best part of the day has been all the texts, posts and messages congratulating me on not poisoning myself for 365 days
That has been wonderful, thank you all for the congratulations, sorry to sound like a whiner, just trying to figure it out
I'll be back tomorrow to make my promise again with all of you
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: pab1964 on July 31, 2018, 09:15:00 PM
Congratulations on your trip around the sun! Thanks for all you do around here!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: BBQchips on July 31, 2018, 09:51:00 PM
Congrats on 365. Thanks for being so active with us Noobs in the Pre-HOF groups and showing it can be done. QWYT
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: DonkeyMN on August 01, 2018, 02:15:00 PM
Just dropping in here to say congrats on a year of quit life.

I too, struggle with the milestones, they are not really a celebration so much as a reminder of the length of time that it has been and when you break away from the ODAAT way of thinking.... you can get frustrated. Frustrated that you are not "cured".

It keeps getting better, even incrementally so. There is no better way to live than nicotine free, and you know it.

DonkeyMN - 548 EDD with you
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: ChickDip on August 01, 2018, 09:02:00 PM
Quote from: DonkeyMN
Just dropping in here to say congrats on a year of quit life.

I too, struggle with the milestones, they are not really a celebration so much as a reminder of the length of time that it has been and when you break away from the ODAAT way of thinking.... you can get frustrated. Frustrated that you are not "cured".

It keeps getting better, even incrementally so. There is no better way to live than nicotine free, and you know it.

DonkeyMN - 548 EDD with you
Huge congrats franx!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Swilson on August 01, 2018, 11:34:00 PM
Sir Francis I sure do enjoying quitting with you but I am not gonna let you catch me ...
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Candoit on August 02, 2018, 12:42:00 PM
Quote from: Swilson
Sir Francis I sure do enjoying quitting with you but I am not gonna let you catch me ...
Well done on a year!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on August 08, 2018, 03:08:00 PM
Just a piece of a discussion I wanted to hold onto and be more easily able to find:
Quote from: 69Franx
Quote from: bradonh
Quote from: MikeP15
Quote from: bradonh
Quote from: MikeP15
Quote from: 69Franx
Quote from: bradonh
Quote from: 69Franx
bradon, jump in. What's on your mind? How's your quit? How was today?
Chewing the hell out of my gum...I am still in the trenches. Honestly, I see a lot of bitching on the site but I am not sure what about. I believe in a explicit call to action. What is the call to action? I do notice that we have very few new members over the last week and I am not sure what that is about.
We are trying to explain some habits that will make quitting easier
Wake up piss post(WUPP) make that promise early in your day
Keep that promise
That's all it takes, it is hard and it is that simple.
The 16 of you are all at the earliest stages of your quits. You are going through very similar thoughts, cravings, triggers, etc. Talk them out. Share your small(but really no. Victory is small in this battle) victories.
I agree with frank here.

Someone needs to step up tho. Period. Own your quit. Help the group.

Is it you?
I want to say it is simple but simple tends to be too many slogans. That said, I 100% agree with WUPPP and ODAAT....Every morning I embrace this quit and own it. But we can throw acronyms around all day, but folks have to own it. This brotherhood is strong but without my own will-power it is nothing. OWN this Fing shit
Are you the one to make everyone accountable... Including yourself?
Man - I spent 400 days on this site 3 years ago. I was accountable for myself but held no one else accountable. I cherished the accountability but did not counter the action to my brothers. If in my q2.0, I can help hold brothers accountable and at the same time make my quit stronger I want to do that so Fing bad. That said, I go back to my original post earlier this eve. Are we not seeing new sign ups? It seems like we are in a drought the last week.
It does seem to have stopped. It more will come. There are still 17 days left In this month. We/you are building it everydayeveryday and they will come.
A d i can tell you bradon, working hard to hold others accountable has helped me stay quit no doubt. I make my promise to too many people on a daily basis to just give up. Us have over 100 people mother fucking me on my phone. I don't want that and i want to stay quit. Being involved makes it all work. I texted a ton of people today. I posted support in o e 60 groups (not a typical day granted) and have spent hours in here talking, preaching, filling out the SSOA. You know what I didn't do today? I didn't cave, I didn't really crave. And it feels awesome. I'm out to for the night. Stay awesome and stay quit brothers!
Franx - best post of the day! ABQ brother
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on August 13, 2018, 10:56:00 AM
378, 54 weeks. Feeling very good about my quit. Wish I was sleeping better, but sleep has always been a problem for me, using or not. Really nothing special to add, just checking in .
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Doofus on August 15, 2018, 11:06:00 AM
Hey Frank's, the big doofus here, proud to quit with you, Day 214....thanks for showing us the way.
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on August 18, 2018, 12:23:00 AM
Quote from: Doofus
Hey Frank's, the big doofus here, proud to quit with you, Day 214....thanks for showing us the way.
Hey stop in anytime Doofus. We love to see her, I mean you in here
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Doofus on August 23, 2018, 10:38:00 AM
Getting close to un chartered quit waters.....never been past 7 months in 30 years....222 qlf
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on August 25, 2018, 03:42:00 PM
day 390, sitting around the house on a Saturday while the wife is out and about. Not a single chew today (or the last 389) but this is the type of day I would have gone through almost a can of grizzly in the past. What a difference a year and then some makes. It sucked until it didnt. It was hard until it wasnt. I'm not cured, but KTC has helped me to stay free of nic for almost 400 days now. Its in my signature line from Zeno, thanx Eric : "this seems to be working, why change anything?" So I posted my promise again today and have every intention of doing so again tomorrow. come quit with me
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on August 29, 2018, 03:07:00 PM
Ok, so this dumbass used fake for weeks 2-55. No subs week one, then a lot of Jake's Mint chews over the next year. All the while reading about people loving these Tea Tree cinnamon toothpicks. Ran out of Jake's last week and did not want to buy more, but wanted something on hand. You know, just in case. I was already ordering some stuff from ammazoon so I decided to add these to the list. They came in yesterday and put one in when I got home from work. I have had one in my mouth almost since then except for sleeping last night and eating. Such a great fidget spinner of a nic fighter. And to top it all off, a helluva lot cheaper than Jake's. I got 600 picks for like $11. I don't know if that's a good price for toothpicks or not, but it beats the fake chew price wise. I may never go a day without one of these again.
That is all for day 394, QFYQWYBQBIM! (thanx Candoit)
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Croakenhagen on August 29, 2018, 10:00:00 PM
Quote from: 69Franx
Ok, so this dumbass used fake for weeks 2-55. No subs week one, then a lot of Jake's Mint chews over the next year. All the while reading about people loving these Tea Tree cinnamon toothpicks. Ran out of Jake's last week and did not want to buy more, but wanted something on hand. You know, just in case. I was already ordering some stuff from ammazoon so I decided to add these to the list. They came in yesterday and put one in when I got home from work. I have had one in my mouth almost since then except for sleeping last night and eating. Such a great fidget spinner of a nic fighter. And to top it all off, a helluva lot cheaper than Jake's. I got 600 picks for like $11. I don't know if that's a good price for toothpicks or not, but it beats the fake chew price wise. I may never go a day without one of these again.
That is all for day 394, QFYQWYBQBIM! (thanx Candoit)
Toothpicks are definitely the way to go. Wife's been making mine with cinnamon oil and olive oil, letting them soak for a day or two and boom, ready to go. Cheap as hell to make.
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: SRains918 on September 04, 2018, 04:15:00 PM
400

Damn...

Thanx Franx for all you've done for me (and everyone else)! Congrats on 4th floor brother!!!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Candoit on September 04, 2018, 05:25:00 PM
Quote from: srains918
400

Damn...

Thanx Franx for all you've done for me (and everyone else)! Congrats on 4th floor brother!!!
Well done!

Leading by example and keeping us moving forward. ABQ
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: pab1964 on September 04, 2018, 05:53:00 PM
Quote from: Candoit
Quote from: srains918
400

Damn...

Thanx Franx for all you've done for me (and everyone else)! Congrats on 4th floor brother!!!
Well done!

Leading by example and keeping us moving forward. ABQ
Attaboy Franx! Great
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on September 04, 2018, 09:37:00 PM
Quote from: pab1964
Quote from: Candoit
Quote from: srains918
400

Damn...

Thanx Franx for all you've done for me (and everyone else)! Congrats on 4th floor brother!!!
Well done!

Leading by example and keeping us moving forward. ABQ
Attaboy Franx! Great
Thanx brothers.
Just trying to pay back all I received early in my quit.
I appreciate all that KTC has done for me and the three of you specifically.
400 down and a lifetime to go, I'm all in
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on September 10, 2018, 01:26:00 PM
406 days, 58 weeks

Spent the weekend with the family, doing family things. Took the boy for a college visit to the University of Northwestern Ohio. The racers as they like to be called. Very interesting school. He is interested in automotive technology, would like to own his own speed shop someday, building and maintaining high performance engines. 5 hours on the road, no chew, no urge. Sunday was grocery and kind of football day. THE BROWNS DID NOT LOSE! HOW DO YOU LIKE THAT squealers fans? Man the defense seems very strong, Tyrod Taylor showed that he would like to sit the bench and let Baker have the team. Other than that, another quiet week of quit. Thank you for all your support.
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Batdad on March 01, 2019, 09:30:52 AM
I have merged your introductions
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on March 01, 2019, 01:42:40 PM
I have merged your introductions
Thanx brother, and I got the same pop in from Doofus that Candoit had, it was an old post that seemed to pop in upon the merge. Leo took it out of Candoit's intro and I just deleted it from mine
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on March 02, 2019, 10:44:29 PM
Well that thread merge turned into a Trainwreck. Not Batdad's fault, just the way the software sorted the posts. If you've spent any time reading my intro, I'm sure you can find your way through this. If you haven't, the end is just as good of a place to start. Stay strong, stay quit. WUPPEDD ODAATEDD.
Can you make a promise to not use nicotine for 24 hours?
Can you keep your word?
Then you can be quit.
Jump on in and make your promise.
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on March 13, 2019, 07:13:54 AM
590/101

So yesterday was 100 days free of caffeine, or at least coffee and soda. I feel great without it in my life, but the first week was easily as bad if not worse than quitting nicotine. Really just popping in to mark that occasion, even if a day late
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Athan on March 16, 2019, 06:50:36 AM
590/101

So yesterday was 100 days free of caffeine, or at least coffee and soda. I feel great without it in my life, but the first week was easily as bad if not worse than quitting nicotine. Really just popping in to mark that occasion, even if a day late
You're a brave man!  good on you for making positive changes to your life.  Totally amazed at how well ODAAT works.  It really does move mountains!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on March 17, 2019, 01:47:32 AM
590/101

So yesterday was 100 days free of caffeine, or at least coffee and soda. I feel great without it in my life, but the first week was easily as bad if not worse than quitting nicotine. Really just popping in to mark that occasion, even if a day late
You're a brave man!  good on you for making positive changes to your life.  Totally amazed at how well ODAAT works.  It really does move mountains!
Thanx brother, how you doing?
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Athan on March 17, 2019, 06:04:50 AM
590/101

So yesterday was 100 days free of caffeine, or at least coffee and soda. I feel great without it in my life, but the first week was easily as bad if not worse than quitting nicotine. Really just popping in to mark that occasion, even if a day late
You're a brave man!  good on you for making positive changes to your life.  Totally amazed at how well ODAAT works.  It really does move mountains!
Thanx brother, how you doing?
M'aiight!  Split two cords of wood yesterday.  Would have been a full can job a scant 440 days ago.  Nary a grain, even in spite of the fire ants finding my satchel!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on March 23, 2019, 10:36:44 AM
600/111 ABQTPFC

500-600 seemed to crawl by compared to any of the previous floors beyond HOF, not sure why?
Probably because I was also quitting coffee and soda during everyone of those 100 days.
Don't think I could have done the coffee/soda thing first or at the same time as nicotine, at least not in the beginning.

On another note,
Today a brother lost his mother, that is more important than anything I have to say or actually do in here today,
So get over to January 2018 and offer your deepest sympathies and support to the Texas Chief, he is in need today!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on April 03, 2019, 04:11:13 PM
611/122 and QLF.
Surgery day for the fiance, scheduled for 12:30, got started an hour late but finished the first half an hour earlier than we had been told it would take.
So all good news for now
Thanx for all the prayers and support
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on April 04, 2019, 10:17:36 AM
Follow up this morning with the surgeon: she is now filling out discharge paperwork and we plan on leaving after a quick follow-up with the plastic surgeon.

Back home now, as of 3:30, Anne is worn out from the last 48 hours
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on April 12, 2019, 03:25:22 PM
Follow up today with the plastic surgeon went well.
He said it looks like everything is healing nicely.
About the only good news going on around here...

She will have to have weekly follow-ups with him until the reconstruction process is finished, likely another 4 months if no chemo or radiation, considerably longer if either of those are called for by the oncologist she will not see for another 10 days or so.

Today is 365 days since we lost her son Nolan.
That's really the only thing on her mind and nothing can change or fix that.
Going to have some of his friends over tonight and release a couple Chinese lanterns in his honor

Hate to bring everyone down if you are reading this, just really nobody around home to talk to about all this, so just trying to clear my head.
Thanx for all the support for the last 620 days but especially the last 365.
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Broccoli-saurus on April 15, 2019, 09:14:26 AM
Love you brother.  My thoughts and prayers with yall.  Anything I can do, holler. 
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Athan on April 15, 2019, 05:28:55 PM
Love you brother.  My thoughts and prayers with yall.  Anything I can do, holler.
Second that - prayers your way
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on May 02, 2019, 10:03:14 AM
640/151

More importantly, Anne is cancer free.
She will not require Chemo or radiation.

Thanks for all your thoughts and prayers
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: SRains918 on May 02, 2019, 10:29:40 AM
640/151

More importantly, Anne is cancer free.
She will not require Chemo or radiation.

Thanks for all your thoughts and prayers

That is absolutely wonderful news brother!!!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on May 13, 2019, 10:39:04 AM
651/162

93 weeks free of nicotine and 22 weeks free from coffee and soda!

It does keep getting better. I was reminded by one of my quit brothers that I recently passed the longest of my previous stoppages. That had been about 18 or 19 months. So I am now in new territory in this quit. Cravings are rather infrequent thankfully. I'm almost never around anyone who still chews(really only one friend and only see him every couple months at the most) so not only is it still getting better, it's getting easier. I can go to the drive through and just get a 6 pack and not worry about accidentally asking for a roll of grizzly. Not using any fake, but do still have some toothpicks handy.

Really just wanted to jot some notes down and say thanx to this community. KTC has gotten me beyond any previous point of being nicotine free. BROTHERHOOD PLUS ACCOUNTABILITY EQUALS SUCCESS!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on May 24, 2019, 01:51:05 PM
662/173 and heading into Memorial Day weekend quit and quit hard

Lot of drama floating around here on KTC recently, caused by some newcomers. Keeps us all busy and laughing though. Just remember that this is an internet forum and you cannot always believe what you read on the internet. When you walk like a troll, talk like a troll, and troll like a troll, you just might be a troll or a dumbass at the bare minimum. Just had this conversation with the 15 year old, do not blindly believe and/or repost what you "read" on the internet unless you know it to be true. The internet and KTC holds plenty of convincing story tellers. Luckily sometimes those stories wind up ratting out the trolls.

Have a great weekend, enjoy the extra day off, but mainly, remember who and why we celebrate this weekend.
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: RAZD611 on May 24, 2019, 01:53:12 PM
662/173 and heading into Memorial Day weekend quit and quit hard

Lot of drama floating around here on KTC recently, caused by some newcomers. Keeps us all busy and laughing though. Just remember that this is an internet forum and you cannot always believe what you read on the internet. When you walk like a troll, talk like a troll, and troll like a troll, you just might be a troll or a dumbass at the bare minimum. Just had this conversation with the 15 year old, do not blindly believe and/or repost what you "read" on the internet unless you know it to be true. The internet and KTC holds plenty of convincing story tellers. Luckily sometimes those stories wind up ratting out the trolls.

Have a great weekend, enjoy the extra day off, but mainly, remember who and why we celebrate this weekend.
If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, and acts like a duck. It's prolly a duck.

Have a safe holliday weekend.
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on June 06, 2019, 11:51:10 AM
675/186 ABQTPFC

     Today starts a new project. Had a primary care visit yesterday to confirm my Hypertensive Urgency Blood Pressure. D.A.S.H. diet here I come. Never been a big fan of veggies, going to have to figure that part out as I go. Today's meals look like 1587 calories, mostly vegetable based. Eating like this will be so much better than dying from a stroke, heart attack, or other related issue. So I am on it, clean eating here I come, likely with a little bit of alcohol on the weekend. Might be a bit cranky and definitely hungry for a while until my system adjusts to this lifestyle.
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: RAZD611 on June 06, 2019, 04:01:58 PM
675/186 ABQTPFC

     Today starts a new project. Had a primary care visit yesterday to confirm my Hypertensive Urgency Blood Pressure. D.A.S.H. diet here I come. Never been a big fan of veggies, going to have to figure that part out as I go. Today's meals look like 1587 calories, mostly vegetable based. Eating like this will be so much better than dying from a stroke, heart attack, or other related issue. So I am on it, clean eating here I come, likely with a little bit of alcohol on the weekend. Might be a bit cranky and definitely hungry for a while until my system adjusts to this lifestyle.
I hope you don't choke to death on a green bean or some broccoli...... 'roflmao'
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: DocPetey on June 06, 2019, 04:29:40 PM
675/186 ABQTPFC

     Today starts a new project. Had a primary care visit yesterday to confirm my Hypertensive Urgency Blood Pressure. D.A.S.H. diet here I come. Never been a big fan of veggies, going to have to figure that part out as I go. Today's meals look like 1587 calories, mostly vegetable based. Eating like this will be so much better than dying from a stroke, heart attack, or other related issue. So I am on it, clean eating here I come, likely with a little bit of alcohol on the weekend. Might be a bit cranky and definitely hungry for a while until my system adjusts to this lifestyle.
I hope you don't choke to death on a green bean or some broccoli...... 'roflmao'
I always thought you and Broccoli-saurus had a special relationship  'tease' roflmao
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Broccoli-saurus on June 12, 2019, 02:07:46 PM
675/186 ABQTPFC

     Today starts a new project. Had a primary care visit yesterday to confirm my Hypertensive Urgency Blood Pressure. D.A.S.H. diet here I come. Never been a big fan of veggies, going to have to figure that part out as I go. Today's meals look like 1587 calories, mostly vegetable based. Eating like this will be so much better than dying from a stroke, heart attack, or other related issue. So I am on it, clean eating here I come, likely with a little bit of alcohol on the weekend. Might be a bit cranky and definitely hungry for a while until my system adjusts to this lifestyle.
I hope you don't choke to death on a green bean or some broccoli...... 'roflmao'
I always thought you and Broccoli-saurus had a special relationship  'tease' roflmao
Those aren't just rumors...
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on June 20, 2019, 04:04:26 PM
675/186 ABQTPFC

     Today starts a new project. Had a primary care visit yesterday to confirm my Hypertensive Urgency Blood Pressure. D.A.S.H. diet here I come. Never been a big fan of veggies, going to have to figure that part out as I go. Today's meals look like 1587 calories, mostly vegetable based. Eating like this will be so much better than dying from a stroke, heart attack, or other related issue. So I am on it, clean eating here I come, likely with a little bit of alcohol on the weekend. Might be a bit cranky and definitely hungry for a while until my system adjusts to this lifestyle.

689/200
Follow up visit with primary care doc yesterday. 2 weeks of LISINOPRIL and Hydrochlorothiazide(sp?) along with really paying attention to what I am eating (working with D.A.S.H. diet but not 100% strict) has lowered my BP from:
174/134 on 06/04/19 (think the doc wanted to say HOLY SHIT!!)
134/100 last week on 06/13/19
132/90 yesterday 06/19/19
Doc is much happier and says to keep on the meds, as he would like to see me below 130/90, but no follow up appointment needed for 4-6 months. All good news, he was pretty freaked out with the readings 2 weeks ago. I knew it was coming, after having been told a couple times that it was getting high, it was high, and I should get my primary to evaluate (that was in the ER last year, only took my dumbass 17 months to get to a primary care doc) Either way, I got on top of this a lot faster than I ever got in control of quitting nicotine.

Bonus item, dropped 6# in those same 2 weeks with more to come with this diet lifestyle change. I was 260 and change on 06/02/19 and today weighed myself at home at 251.2, goal is to be back down at 220 by the end of the year. Its aggressive, but as long as it keeps coming off, I'll be happy.

Having Anne in the hospital for breast cancer and all she has gone through with that has really jump started my desire to be a healthier me. I'm not going to start running marathons anytime soon (or even running) but just paying attention to what I take into my body is so much more important now.
Moral of the story, if you are working to remove nicotine from your life, take care of that first, then start nailing down the other items you already know you should be getting under control. If you have not spent anytime looking at the "getting my act together thread" I highly recommend checking in out.
Places in there to make a quit type promise to give up: porn, alcohol, sugar, carbs, caffeine, soda, etc. Whatever ails you, you can find KTC support in there. Make it happen, make yourself a better, healthier human being. That's enough rambling for today. MAKE IT HAPPEN!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on July 01, 2019, 07:19:32 AM
700/211 ABQTPFC

That about sums it up. Nice milestone but doesn't feel any different than yesterday. It is a lot of WUPPEDD and ODAATEDD. The only way it works and the only way it happens.
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: chris2alaska on July 01, 2019, 08:04:03 PM
700/211 ABQTPFC

That about sums it up. Nice milestone but doesn't feel any different than yesterday. It is a lot of WUPPEDD and ODAATEDD. The only way it works and the only way it happens.

 'party2' HAPPY 7TH FLOOR FRANK  'party2'
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Broccoli-saurus on July 03, 2019, 10:30:58 AM
Congrats on the 7th floor and thank you for keeping me on center.  I really appreciate the call yesterday and count you as one of my very good friends in life.  You’re a good dude!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on July 03, 2019, 11:01:37 AM
Congrats on the 7th floor and thank you for keeping me on center.  I really appreciate the call yesterday and count you as one of my very good friends in life.  You’re a good dude!
We are all just happy to have you back in the fold. Dont let Fish piss you off or find you in a dark corner.  'bandog'
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Broccoli-saurus on July 03, 2019, 11:05:19 AM
Congrats on the 7th floor and thank you for keeping me on center.  I really appreciate the call yesterday and count you as one of my very good friends in life.  You’re a good dude!
We are all just happy to have you back in the fold. Dont let Fish piss you off or find you in a dark corner.  'bandog'
Drink the koolaid they said.  It’ll taste good they said.   

All joking aside, KTC has kept me quit and will continue to keep me quit, just as it will for you.  I don’t have to agree with policies at all times.  Just keeping the main thing the main thing.
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on July 17, 2019, 09:01:40 AM
Been a couple weeks. 716/227

Road tripping to the North East.
Saw the Flight 93 memorial yesterday
Hershey Factory today
Then on into CT, on our way to Boston
From there up to Maine
Then heading home through New York
Into Ohio to see my newest niece born Monday
Then on home around the first
The plan is to be quit in 8 new states!
All thanx to my KTC family!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on July 31, 2019, 08:47:05 AM
730/241 ABQTPFC

Last day of the road trip
300 miles to get home
From home and back, we will break 2900 miles today on this trip
Man am I tired of driving
Good news is driving was always prime chewing time, but not these miles
I stayed quit through every mile
I stayed quit through every teenage temper tantrum(and there were a lot of those)
I stayed quit through all the crazy traffic
I stayed quit as Ironman competitors held us up as they drove past (sick, demented people)
I stayed quit because everyday I made a promise to my best friends in the world to stay quit
I stayed quit because I wanted to and because I didn't want to let those friends down
Again, thanx KTC
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: chris2alaska on August 01, 2019, 11:20:44 AM
'Bow' 2 Bad Ass Years for a Bad Ass Quitter
CONGRATULATIONS FRANK  'Bow'
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: DonkeyMN on August 01, 2019, 11:22:37 AM
You are doing this the right way, and there is strength in numbers.

Congrats Frank on 2 freakin years brother!!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on August 13, 2019, 02:51:14 PM
743/254 ABQTPFC

Been a couple days since being in here after hitting 2 years. The road trip last month has had me chewing on toothpicks pretty much all day every day for a month now after having pretty much forgotten about them.
2 years is nothing compared to semi regular use and abuse for 34 years, I'm still not cured and will not ever be.
Still would like to find a new normal which seems to change every couple months
Been spending more time in the pre-HOF groups to remember what the early days were like. Man I do not ever want to be in week one again. So i make that promise daily as soon as I can. Not in the middle of the afternoon when I think of it. First thing because it is the first thing I think about, just like my first dip of the day used to be what I woke up thinking about.
I keep seeing it and saying it over and over in the new groups: "Get numbers, make contact, find out who you are quitting with. Calling a friend for help is easier than just calling whatever number you find in your phone"
Glad to say that I took that advice early on and make use of those numbers.
Just trying to reinforce these thoughts for myself and anyone who chooses to read and/or respond
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Broccoli-saurus on August 14, 2019, 04:50:05 PM
743/254 ABQTPFC

Been a couple days since being in here after hitting 2 years. The road trip last month has had me chewing on toothpicks pretty much all day every day for a month now after having pretty much forgotten about them.
2 years is nothing compared to semi regular use and abuse for 34 years, I'm still not cured and will not ever be.
Still would like to find a new normal which seems to change every couple months
Been spending more time in the pre-HOF groups to remember what the early days were like. Man I do not ever want to be in week one again. So i make that promise daily as soon as I can. Not in the middle of the afternoon when I think of it. First thing because it is the first thing I think about, just like my first dip of the day used to be what I woke up thinking about.
I keep seeing it and saying it over and over in the new groups: "Get numbers, make contact, find out who you are quitting with. Calling a friend for help is easier than just calling whatever number you find in your phone"
Glad to say that I took that advice early on and make use of those numbers.
Just trying to reinforce these thoughts for myself and anyone who chooses to read and/or respond

Thanks for that bro.  I've been having trouble wanting to stay involved here as of late.  But scared to leave because of what you just described.  It's a conundrum. 
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on August 14, 2019, 05:01:53 PM
743/254 ABQTPFC

Been a couple days since being in here after hitting 2 years. The road trip last month has had me chewing on toothpicks pretty much all day every day for a month now after having pretty much forgotten about them.
2 years is nothing compared to semi regular use and abuse for 34 years, I'm still not cured and will not ever be.
Still would like to find a new normal which seems to change every couple months
Been spending more time in the pre-HOF groups to remember what the early days were like. Man I do not ever want to be in week one again. So i make that promise daily as soon as I can. Not in the middle of the afternoon when I think of it. First thing because it is the first thing I think about, just like my first dip of the day used to be what I woke up thinking about.
I keep seeing it and saying it over and over in the new groups: "Get numbers, make contact, find out who you are quitting with. Calling a friend for help is easier than just calling whatever number you find in your phone"
Glad to say that I took that advice early on and make use of those numbers.
Just trying to reinforce these thoughts for myself and anyone who chooses to read and/or respond

Thanks for that bro.  I've been having trouble wanting to stay involved here as of late.  But scared to leave because of what you just described.  It's a conundrum.
A conundrum rolled up in an enigma?
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: oldschool on August 15, 2019, 12:27:09 PM
743/254 ABQTPFC

Been a couple days since being in here after hitting 2 years. The road trip last month has had me chewing on toothpicks pretty much all day every day for a month now after having pretty much forgotten about them.
2 years is nothing compared to semi regular use and abuse for 34 years, I'm still not cured and will not ever be.
Still would like to find a new normal which seems to change every couple months
Been spending more time in the pre-HOF groups to remember what the early days were like. Man I do not ever want to be in week one again. So i make that promise daily as soon as I can. Not in the middle of the afternoon when I think of it. First thing because it is the first thing I think about, just like my first dip of the day used to be what I woke up thinking about.
I keep seeing it and saying it over and over in the new groups: "Get numbers, make contact, find out who you are quitting with. Calling a friend for help is easier than just calling whatever number you find in your phone"
Glad to say that I took that advice early on and make use of those numbers.
Just trying to reinforce these thoughts for myself and anyone who chooses to read and/or respond

Thanks for that bro.  I've been having trouble wanting to stay involved here as of late.  But scared to leave because of what you just described.  It's a conundrum.
A conundrum rolled up in an enigma?
Thank You for sharing 69Franx.  I still have many of my initial withdrawal symptoms frequently.  Lately, I have been praying for a new normal.   I have had this thought that by 2 years the worst would be over and normal would be the norm.  Strangely I find not only sadness but comfort knowing that it might not ever end....
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on August 15, 2019, 05:40:47 PM
743/254 ABQTPFC

Been a couple days since being in here after hitting 2 years. The road trip last month has had me chewing on toothpicks pretty much all day every day for a month now after having pretty much forgotten about them.
2 years is nothing compared to semi regular use and abuse for 34 years, I'm still not cured and will not ever be.
Still would like to find a new normal which seems to change every couple months
Been spending more time in the pre-HOF groups to remember what the early days were like. Man I do not ever want to be in week one again. So i make that promise daily as soon as I can. Not in the middle of the afternoon when I think of it. First thing because it is the first thing I think about, just like my first dip of the day used to be what I woke up thinking about.
I keep seeing it and saying it over and over in the new groups: "Get numbers, make contact, find out who you are quitting with. Calling a friend for help is easier than just calling whatever number you find in your phone"
Glad to say that I took that advice early on and make use of those numbers.
Just trying to reinforce these thoughts for myself and anyone who chooses to read and/or respond

Thanks for that bro.  I've been having trouble wanting to stay involved here as of late.  But scared to leave because of what you just described.  It's a conundrum.
A conundrum rolled up in an enigma?
Thank You for sharing 69Franx.  I still have many of my initial withdrawal symptoms frequently.  Lately, I have been praying for a new normal.   I have had this thought that by 2 years the worst would be over and normal would be the norm.  Strangely I find not only sadness but comfort knowing that it might not ever end....
Like I have said earlier in here somewhere, I essentially used my entire adult life. I'm not really sure I know or would even recognize "normal." I am getting by, and loving the freedom, but there are still plenty of times when a dip sounds like just the thing (to the addict Frank, I know better now, but he pops up every once in a while)
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on August 26, 2019, 03:05:25 PM
756/267 108 weeks of freedom!

Just like 2 weeks ago, spending time with the pre-hof groups.
Seeing a lot of late posts, and some missed days.
This does not bode well early in a quit.
Plenty of late posters in the ABQ and plenty of missed days from those same people, but they are all over 2 years quit now.
Does not stop me from making sure I WUPP, but if they stay quit even with late posting, staying quit is the name of the game at this point.
Those pre-hof groups though need to build that routine, take the time first thing in the morning to make that promise. Just as early if not earlier than the first dip of the day used to be.
Without that routine, complacency will slip in and nicotine may well own them again shortly.

I am constantly amazed at the addict mind. The sheer volume of people who wind up here at KTC that think they know how to do what we do better than the program already in place. Make connections, make your promise early, keep your damn word. Its not a hard system once you have made the decision to quit for yourself. Making that choice is the tough part, staying quit just takes making a promise and keeping your word. Once you have made your promise, do anything it takes to keep your word. Do anything else besides consuming nicotine.

Wake
Up
Piss
Post(and keep your damn word)
Every
Damn
Day
Really doesn't get any simpler if you are a man or woman of your word that actually wants to be quit.
Stop trying to quit and just QUIT
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on September 16, 2019, 02:39:53 PM
777/288 111 weeks of ODAATEDD!

Lets just all hope the BROWNS are as lucky as my day count tonight in kicking the crap out of the Jets!
HERE WE GO BROWNIES, HERE WE GO! thats for you brother @Samrs (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=8)

On a more serious note, Anne has her second surgery on Wed around noon this week. This should be the last surgery for at least 10 years (the life expectancy of the new "permanent breast implants." We are hoping as this is an outpatient procedure that her recovery will be quicker and less painful that the double mastectomy was back in April. That one had her wiped out for nearly 3 months.

Watching some of these new badass quitters is giving me fresh quit wood on a daily basis, too many to name but keep on keeping on folks. WUPP ODAATEDD is how we make the quit world go around
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on September 17, 2019, 05:43:02 PM
778/289 ABQTPFC

Can't say it was a glorious win for the Browns, but it goes in the W column for sure, going to be a tough next couple weeks though. @Ralphie51 (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=777) (?) assures me that the Browns can pull off a couple upsets still here in the first half of the season so I am eager to see what they can do
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: SixString on September 17, 2019, 09:08:04 PM
778/289 ABQTPFC

Can't say it was a glorious win for the Browns, but it goes in the W column for sure, going to be a tough next couple weeks though. @Ralphie51 (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=777) (?) assures me that the Browns can pull off a couple upsets still here in the first half of the season so I am eager to see what they can do
If you OBJ can stay consistent....and jesus I can't believe I'm saying this. But if obj plays to his potential. The browns can be in the playoffs
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: snahsorg on September 20, 2019, 10:38:57 PM
Brother Franx,

Been a long 396 days for me, with what I thought was an abnormally difficult year. But you have taken life head on with grace and patience. And now you are hopefully seeing the sunrise in the distance.

Your imprint on this community is undeniable. Your strength is incredible to witness. Thank you for helping me (and countless others) fight the good fight.

snahsorg

p.s. Your ass is grass on 11/3. GO BRONCOS!!!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on September 21, 2019, 10:25:25 AM
Brother Franx,

Been a long 396 days for me, with what I thought was an abnormally difficult year. But you have taken life head on with grace and patience. And now you are hopefully seeing the sunrise in the distance.

Your imprint on this community is undeniable. Your strength is incredible to witness. Thank you for helping me (and countless others) fight the good fight.

snahsorg

p.s. Your ass is grass on 11/3. GO BRONCOS!!!
Thanx brother, I just spend my time here trying to give back what I received when I was early in my quit. ETA: screw the Bruncos and Horseface Elway!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on October 09, 2019, 11:04:14 AM
800/311

It just keeps getting better. Thanx for all the support the last 800 days, you all know I needed it
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: chris2alaska on October 09, 2019, 11:15:02 AM
800/311

It just keeps getting better. Thanx for all the support the last 800 days, you all know I needed it

Has it really been 800 days?  It seems like just yesterday I was supporting you at 799 days.  Man how time flies.

CONGRATS ON THAT 8TH FLOOR FRANKIE
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Athan on October 09, 2019, 01:19:48 PM
Anyone seen Hundy?  Heard 69franx ate him.  That's right, 69franx ate hundy!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on October 15, 2019, 09:31:04 PM
So October 2019 had a surprise guest yesterday who had been away from the site since 2010. @quit_to_win (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=7872) posted day 4032 and got everyone excited. Went to check out his history and found this gem from the earliest stages of January 2009, not from him, but still good:

"QuittinTime's 4 Step Program: (It's worked so far.)

Step 1: Take that can of copenskodihuskgrizzletimbrshit and open the lid, and dump that shit down the big round white thingy in the the little room in your house, pull the handle on the big round white thingy and watch it spin into oblivion, then tap the can several times to get out all the flakes and flush again, then one more time to get the shit off the rim.

Step 2: Take that empty can of copenskodihuskgrizzletimbrshit outside away from anything flammable and throw it on the ground, stomp the living dog shit out of it, pour some lighter fluid, gasoline, diesel fuel, kerosene, or some other flammable liquid onto the can. Stand back about 6 to 8 feet and toss a match into the fucker and watch it burn........burn baby burn! Do a dance around the worthless son of a bitch. When the flames die down, stomp the shit of the metal lid (if applicable).

Step 3: Bury the remains..........say a few words if you wish.

Step 4: DO NOT BUY, BUM, STEAL, OR GO NEAR THAT SHIT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JUST LIKE YOUR MAMA TOLD YOU IN THE FIRST PLACE.  >:( "
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on November 06, 2019, 10:54:15 AM
828/339 118 weeks of quit

Turned 50 last month, so Monday was my first colonoscopy.
Cant imagine caring enough to get that done if I was still using nicotine
Got the results back today on a polyp they removed. All clear, non-malignant, so I got that going for me
Just another 5 years till I have to do it all over again
I guess the point being, now that I have quit nicotine, and then caffeine, I am working on improving my overall health.
Daily vitamins, regular doctor visits, regular dental checkups, now the colonoscopy: all things that I did not give a shit about when I knew I was killing myself slowly with nicotine.
Don't make quitting nicotine the end of your journey to improve your life. Become the man or woman you have always wanted to be.
Enough preaching, I am just happy to be a part of this community that has helped and supported me for 828 days now.
Thank you all!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: SixString on November 06, 2019, 12:49:36 PM
828/339 118 weeks of quit

Turned 50 last month, so Monday was my first colonoscopy.
Cant imagine caring enough to get that done if I was still using nicotine
Got the results back today on a polyp they removed. All clear, non-malignant, so I got that going for me
Just another 5 years till I have to do it all over again
I guess the point being, now that I have quit nicotine, and then caffeine, I am working on improving my overall health.
Daily vitamins, regular doctor visits, regular dental checkups, now the colonoscopy: all things that I did not give a shit about when I knew I was killing myself slowly with nicotine.
Don't make quitting nicotine the end of your journey to improve your life. Become the man or woman you have always wanted to be.
Enough preaching, I am just happy to be a part of this community that has helped and supported me for 828 days now.
Thank you all!
Words cant describe how much of an inspiration you have been to me. Proud to quit with you brother
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Athan on November 06, 2019, 01:45:57 PM
828/339 118 weeks of quit

Turned 50 last month, so Monday was my first colonoscopy.
Cant imagine caring enough to get that done if I was still using nicotine
Got the results back today on a polyp they removed. All clear, non-malignant, so I got that going for me
Just another 5 years till I have to do it all over again
I guess the point being, now that I have quit nicotine, and then caffeine, I am working on improving my overall health.
Daily vitamins, regular doctor visits, regular dental checkups, now the colonoscopy: all things that I did not give a shit about when I knew I was killing myself slowly with nicotine.
Don't make quitting nicotine the end of your journey to improve your life. Become the man or woman you have always wanted to be.
Enough preaching, I am just happy to be a part of this community that has helped and supported me for 828 days now.
Thank you all!
Well, so we now have that in common too!  My nurse was so sweet...she sang the hokie-pokie for me as I was going out.
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: jsjohnson on November 06, 2019, 02:20:42 PM
828/339 118 weeks of quit

Turned 50 last month, so Monday was my first colonoscopy.
Cant imagine caring enough to get that done if I was still using nicotine
Got the results back today on a polyp they removed. All clear, non-malignant, so I got that going for me
Just another 5 years till I have to do it all over again
I guess the point being, now that I have quit nicotine, and then caffeine, I am working on improving my overall health.
Daily vitamins, regular doctor visits, regular dental checkups, now the colonoscopy: all things that I did not give a shit about when I knew I was killing myself slowly with nicotine.
Don't make quitting nicotine the end of your journey to improve your life. Become the man or woman you have always wanted to be.
Enough preaching, I am just happy to be a part of this community that has helped and supported me for 828 days now.
Thank you all!
@69franx (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=26) Well at least you were a whole lot smarter than me and quit years before you turned 50...I turned 50 in September and did not quit until October 1st.  I am proud to be quit with you today. 
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on November 06, 2019, 03:37:07 PM
828/339 118 weeks of quit

Turned 50 last month, so Monday was my first colonoscopy.
Cant imagine caring enough to get that done if I was still using nicotine
Got the results back today on a polyp they removed. All clear, non-malignant, so I got that going for me
Just another 5 years till I have to do it all over again
I guess the point being, now that I have quit nicotine, and then caffeine, I am working on improving my overall health.
Daily vitamins, regular doctor visits, regular dental checkups, now the colonoscopy: all things that I did not give a shit about when I knew I was killing myself slowly with nicotine.
Don't make quitting nicotine the end of your journey to improve your life. Become the man or woman you have always wanted to be.
Enough preaching, I am just happy to be a part of this community that has helped and supported me for 828 days now.
Thank you all!
Well, so we now have that in common too!  My nurse was so sweet...she sang the hokie-pokie for me as I was going out.
@Athan (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=258) , that's pretty good. The doc told me to roll up on my side, the nurse(?) Said she was going to start the anesthesia, I adjusted my head and I woke up in the recovery room. Never heard a word after start the anesthesia. I'd like to think it's much better that way.
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Keith0617 on November 06, 2019, 07:43:20 PM
828/339 118 weeks of quit

Turned 50 last month, so Monday was my first colonoscopy.
Cant imagine caring enough to get that done if I was still using nicotine
Got the results back today on a polyp they removed. All clear, non-malignant, so I got that going for me
Just another 5 years till I have to do it all over again
I guess the point being, now that I have quit nicotine, and then caffeine, I am working on improving my overall health.
Daily vitamins, regular doctor visits, regular dental checkups, now the colonoscopy: all things that I did not give a shit about when I knew I was killing myself slowly with nicotine.
Don't make quitting nicotine the end of your journey to improve your life. Become the man or woman you have always wanted to be.
Enough preaching, I am just happy to be a part of this community that has helped and supported me for 828 days now.
Thank you all!
Well, so we now have that in common too!  My nurse was so sweet...she sang the hokie-pokie for me as I was going out.
@Athan (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=258) , that's pretty good. The doc told me to roll up on my side, the nurse(?) Said she was going to start the anesthesia, I adjusted my head and I woke up in the recovery room. Never heard a word after start the anesthesia. I'd like to think it's much better that way.

Totally get where you are coming from. I’m 53 and figure doing the right things now will hopefully add dividends later.
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Broccoli-saurus on November 11, 2019, 03:48:54 PM
828/339 118 weeks of quit

Turned 50 last month, so Monday was my first colonoscopy.
Cant imagine caring enough to get that done if I was still using nicotine
Got the results back today on a polyp they removed. All clear, non-malignant, so I got that going for me
Just another 5 years till I have to do it all over again
I guess the point being, now that I have quit nicotine, and then caffeine, I am working on improving my overall health.
Daily vitamins, regular doctor visits, regular dental checkups, now the colonoscopy: all things that I did not give a shit about when I knew I was killing myself slowly with nicotine.
Don't make quitting nicotine the end of your journey to improve your life. Become the man or woman you have always wanted to be.
Enough preaching, I am just happy to be a part of this community that has helped and supported me for 828 days now.
Thank you all!
Well, so we now have that in common too!  My nurse was so sweet...she sang the hokie-pokie for me as I was going out.
@Athan (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=258) , that's pretty good. The doc told me to roll up on my side, the nurse(?) Said she was going to start the anesthesia, I adjusted my head and I woke up in the recovery room. Never heard a word after start the anesthesia. I'd like to think it's much better that way.

Totally get where you are coming from. I’m 53 and figure doing the right things now will hopefully add dividends later.

Old folks..... 'Pot'
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on December 02, 2019, 10:04:27 AM
854/365

365 days free of caffeine! This past year I have definitely been more tired than when I had caffeine coursing through my veins, but I am a happier person now. I am sleeping better, not necessarily any more, just better than in previous years. Not going back to caffeine anytime soon. Thanx for all the support
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: chris2alaska on December 02, 2019, 11:00:00 AM
854/365

365 days free of caffeine! This past year I have definitely been more tired than when I had caffeine coursing through my veins, but I am a happier person now. I am sleeping better, not necessarily any more, just better than in previous years. Not going back to caffeine anytime soon. Thanx for all the support

Bravo Frank!!

I've been 2 months without caffeine.  I'm doing bariatric surgery in February and my doc recommended cutting it out of my diet, so no more caffeinated coffee and I also dropped all soda pop.  Down 23 lbs so far.
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on December 02, 2019, 12:25:59 PM
854/365

365 days free of caffeine! This past year I have definitely been more tired than when I had caffeine coursing through my veins, but I am a happier person now. I am sleeping better, not necessarily any more, just better than in previous years. Not going back to caffeine anytime soon. Thanx for all the support

Bravo Frank!!

I've been 2 months without caffeine.  I'm doing bariatric surgery in February and my doc recommended cutting it out of my diet, so no more caffeinated coffee and I also dropped all soda pop.  Down 23 lbs so far.
That's awesome brother. I haven't dropped any weight because of this, but I was on diet soda before I stopped. @chris2alaska (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=130) You should come join us in either the soda quit or caffeine quit threads in Non dipping discussion, getting my act together
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: BluManChew on December 02, 2019, 05:03:04 PM
854/365

365 days free of caffeine! This past year I have definitely been more tired than when I had caffeine coursing through my veins, but I am a happier person now. I am sleeping better, not necessarily any more, just better than in previous years. Not going back to caffeine anytime soon. Thanx for all the support

Bravo Frank!!

I've been 2 months without caffeine.  I'm doing bariatric surgery in February and my doc recommended cutting it out of my diet, so no more caffeinated coffee and I also dropped all soda pop.  Down 23 lbs so far.
That's awesome brother. I haven't dropped any weight because of this, but I was on diet soda before I stopped. @chris2alaska (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=130) You should come join us in either the soda quit or caffeine quit threads in Non dipping discussion, getting my act together
Nice Job!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on January 17, 2020, 10:22:11 AM
900 down and a lifetime to go
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Keith0617 on January 17, 2020, 10:38:52 AM
900 down and a lifetime to go
Congrats @69franx (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=26) . Super Impressive.
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on February 10, 2020, 04:54:00 PM
924/435 QLF

Coming up this weekend, we are traveling to an area with little to no cell service in Snowshoe W. Virginia. Plan is to find a way to post, because that post means a lot to me. Being on roll is important to my remaining quit. The current 100% poster I carry is nice, but I just want to make my promise to my brothers. If I normally post with you in other groups, I'll likely be missing this weekend but still QLF with all of you.
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on March 31, 2020, 09:50:33 PM
974/485

Nothing special to post, just been 50days since I posted in here. Hunkered down quit going on with this viral madness. So damn glad to not still be in the restaurant business during all this. The ABQ is approaching comma town and running a 61 day 100% roll posting streak, the longest we have ever had. All we had to do was stop tracking our SSOA to make it happen. Actually with the lockdown stuff just had some free time to go back through and update it a bit. That 61 caught me by surprise,a good surprise though.
Stay strong
Stay quit
Stay safe
Stay healthy
It's a mad, mad, mad world out there right now!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Bug Guy on March 31, 2020, 10:03:32 PM
Hey there Franky! Still glad we got a chance to link up before the Wuhan flu. So before we all turn into zombies and start eating each other's brains, thanks for being such a helpful brother in quit. And congrats to you and your group of 61 consecutive basass days!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on April 26, 2020, 08:30:28 AM
1000/511
The big one thousand
Comma day
10x HOF!
Could not be here without this amazing community!
Thanx for your support (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7WeZbRbxwg)
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Keith0617 on April 26, 2020, 10:50:42 AM
1000/511
The big one thousand
Comma day
10x HOF!
Could not be here without this amazing community!
Thanx for your support (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7WeZbRbxwg)
Great job and congrats a on 1000 days. BADASS!!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Rexx on April 26, 2020, 10:53:44 AM
1000/511
The big one thousand
Comma day
10x HOF!
Could not be here without this amazing community!
Thanx for your support (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7WeZbRbxwg)
Great job and congrats a on 1000 days. BADASS!!

Nicely done. One day I will make it there!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Athan on April 26, 2020, 06:10:17 PM
1000/511
The big one thousand
Comma day
10x HOF!
Could not be here without this amazing community!
Thanx for your support (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7WeZbRbxwg)
Great job and congrats a on 1000 days. BADASS!!

Nicely done. One day I will make it there!
Dude!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on April 26, 2020, 06:28:28 PM
1000/511
The big one thousand
Comma day
10x HOF!
Could not be here without this amazing community!
Thanx for your support (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7WeZbRbxwg)
Great job and congrats a on 1000 days. BADASS!!

Nicely done. One day I will make it there!
Dude!
@Rexx (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=17259) , thanx brother. In all honesty, it feels like I was saying exactly that just a couple weeks ago, but in reality it's been over 900 days. ODAATEDD is the only way to make it happen. And you have to want to be quit more than you ever wanted to chew. I see that in your posts, both in your intro and in July 2020. Keep kicking ass and taking names. NAFAR!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on April 26, 2020, 06:28:55 PM
@Athan (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=258) , love you brother!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Athan on April 26, 2020, 06:32:12 PM
@Athan (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=258) , love you brother!
no no...I love you! @69franx (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=26)
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on April 26, 2020, 06:39:01 PM
Probably just broke a rule there, but it was worth it. Much love brothers and sisters!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: snahsorg on April 26, 2020, 07:03:35 PM
Probably just broke a rule there, but it was worth it. Much love brothers and sisters!
You make 1,000 days, you make the rules. Congrats buddy.
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on April 26, 2020, 07:09:50 PM
Probably just broke a rule there, but it was worth it. Much love brothers and sisters!
You make 1,000 days, you make the rules. Congrats buddy.
Thanx brother @snahsorg (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1336) !
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Broccoli-saurus on May 12, 2020, 09:54:31 AM
Thanks for being a pillar of this site @69franx (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=26) .  Your dedication to your quit, this site, your family, and in everything you do is awesome.  Glad to call you a friend.  1000+++ days....and going and going and going. 
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on May 12, 2020, 12:45:37 PM
Thanks for being a pillar of this site @69franx (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=26) .  Your dedication to your quit, this site, your family, and in everything you do is awesome.  Glad to call you a friend.  1000+++ days....and going and going and going.

Thanx brother @Broccoli-saurus (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=10) , I'm  just a midget standing on the shoulders of the giants of quit that came before me. That includes you my friend
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on August 01, 2020, 10:08:22 AM
     Three years today! I would not have one day quit if not for my oldest friend, fraternity brother, and quit brother @pumpkinboy (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=7810) who introduced me to KTC long before I drank the koolade. Without that first intro, I'd likely not have sought this place out when I was finally ready to quit for me. So thanx again brother for saving my life.
     Thanx also to all of those who have supported me along this journey; newer quitters as well as the even crustier vets that came before me. I have seen so many people come and go that have helped me along the way, I hope they are all still quit.
     Three years and one day ago, I had no idea I was about to quit, or what that meant in the big scheme of things. I suppose the idea was lurking in my head, it really always was; but it usually just looked like plans for a stoppage. Not a quit, not like this. Read enough here and you will hear "It gets better" over and over and at day 1 or 100 it's still kind of hard to believe. I can't tell you when it really started to feel good, but it sure does now. I chewed my entire adult life, so I think now after three years nicotine free, I may know what my new normal looks like. I like it and wouldn't trade it for anything.
     Really just kind of rambling, this post was not thought out (or edited, in case you see typos) but I wanted to again say THANK YOU to all of the badass quitters who helped me along the way, especially the badasses that were there to kick my ass enough to piss me off enough to just quit. No easing back, no planning a date, just quitting. That's a debt I can never repay.
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Keith0617 on August 01, 2020, 10:45:17 AM
     Three years today! I would not have one day quit if not for my oldest friend, fraternity brother, and quit brother @pumpkinboy (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=7810) who introduced me to KTC long before I drank the koolade. Without that first intro, I'd likely not have sought this place out when I was finally ready to quit for me. So thanx again brother for saving my life.
     Thanx also to all of those who have supported me along this journey; newer quitters as well as the even crustier vets that came before me. I have seen so many people come and go that have helped me along the way, I hope they are all still quit.
     Three years and one day ago, I had no idea I was about to quit, or what that meant in the big scheme of things. I suppose the idea was lurking in my head, it really always was; but it usually just looked like plans for a stoppage. Not a quit, not like this. Read enough here and you will hear "It gets better" over and over and at day 1 or 100 it's still kind of hard to believe. I can't tell you when it really started to feel good, but it sure does now. I chewed my entire adult life, so I think now after three years nicotine free, I may know what my new normal looks like. I like it and wouldn't trade it for anything.
     Really just kind of rambling, this post was not thought out (or edited, in case you see typos) but I wanted to again say THANK YOU to all of the badass quitters who helped me along the way, especially the badasses that were there to kick my ass enough to piss me off enough to just quit. No easing back, no planning a date, just quitting. That's a debt I can never repay.
Well done Frank and thank you for what you do to help fellow quitters.  'shots' here’s to another 3 years.
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on August 04, 2020, 11:02:46 AM
HOF plus a Comma today!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: MN_Engineer on August 04, 2020, 11:08:19 AM
HOF plus a Comma today!
Congrats Frank!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Phxshadow on August 04, 2020, 06:55:18 PM
     Three years today! I would not have one day quit if not for my oldest friend, fraternity brother, and quit brother @pumpkinboy (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=7810) who introduced me to KTC long before I drank the koolade. Without that first intro, I'd likely not have sought this place out when I was finally ready to quit for me. So thanx again brother for saving my life.
     Thanx also to all of those who have supported me along this journey; newer quitters as well as the even crustier vets that came before me. I have seen so many people come and go that have helped me along the way, I hope they are all still quit.
     Three years and one day ago, I had no idea I was about to quit, or what that meant in the big scheme of things. I suppose the idea was lurking in my head, it really always was; but it usually just looked like plans for a stoppage. Not a quit, not like this. Read enough here and you will hear "It gets better" over and over and at day 1 or 100 it's still kind of hard to believe. I can't tell you when it really started to feel good, but it sure does now. I chewed my entire adult life, so I think now after three years nicotine free, I may know what my new normal looks like. I like it and wouldn't trade it for anything.
     Really just kind of rambling, this post was not thought out (or edited, in case you see typos) but I wanted to again say THANK YOU to all of the badass quitters who helped me along the way, especially the badasses that were there to kick my ass enough to piss me off enough to just quit. No easing back, no planning a date, just quitting. That's a debt I can never repay.

Congratulations!!!! Big milestone!!! Proud of you!!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on November 12, 2020, 09:24:52 AM
1,200 days. So happy to have the first 1200 nicotine free days behind me. And so excited about the life of freedom ahead of me. Thanx to all those who supported me and/or kicked my ass along the way
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Keith0617 on November 12, 2020, 04:28:04 PM
1,200 days. So happy to have the first 1200 nicotine free days behind me. And so excited about the life of freedom ahead of me. Thanx to all those who supported me and/or kicked my ass along the way
Congrats man. Keep doing you.
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: ankape on November 12, 2020, 06:52:02 PM
1,200 days. So happy to have the first 1200 nicotine free days behind me. And so excited about the life of freedom ahead of me. Thanx to all those who supported me and/or kicked my ass along the way
Congrats man. Keep doing you.
Congratulations Franx!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: KennyZ on November 12, 2020, 07:51:17 PM
1,200 days. So happy to have the first 1200 nicotine free days behind me. And so excited about the life of freedom ahead of me. Thanx to all those who supported me and/or kicked my ass along the way
Congrats man. Keep doing you.
Congratulations Franx!
Congratulations!
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: FullCurl on November 12, 2020, 09:55:31 PM
Way to go man! Killin it
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on June 12, 2021, 10:19:21 PM
Who is the guest in here reading? Do you have any questions?
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: macattack on June 22, 2021, 11:24:12 PM
Who is the guest in here reading? Do you have any questions?

There's another guest reading this right now...
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: 69franx on June 23, 2021, 09:26:31 AM
Who is the guest in here reading? Do you have any questions?

There's another guest reading this right now...
This time, it was in the first page, when I asked, this intro was buried 3 pages deep. It's a real head scratcher
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Thefranks5 on June 23, 2021, 07:38:15 PM
Who is the guest in here reading? Do you have any questions?

There's another guest reading this right now...
This time, it was in the first page, when I asked, this intro was buried 3 pages deep. It's a real head scratcher
The 11 guests reading this right now need to quit scratching their heads, dump the dip and post up. Then he can have a cool avatar like you do, lol.
Title: Re: 69franx
Post by: Thefranks5 on June 23, 2021, 08:07:53 PM
Who is the guest in here reading? Do you have any questions?

There's another guest reading this right now...
This time, it was in the first page, when I asked, this intro was buried 3 pages deep. It's a real head scratcher
The 11 guests reading this right now need to quit scratching their heads, dump the dip and post up. Then they can have a cool avatar like you do, lol.