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General quit discussion, questions, answers, etc.
Guests looking to quit looking for answers are welcome.
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Happy New Year Quitters!
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Happy New Year Quitters!
Let's get this resolution thing rolling and get started with something that will save your life.
Nothing like a little clean on a New Years morning.
Let's go men.
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Happy New Year Quitters!
Let's get this resolution thing rolling and get started with something that will save your life.
Nothing like a little clean on a New Years morning.
Let's go men.
Today.
It is the best time to quit. Not because it's New Year's, but because it's better than tomorrow.
You're here. You're reading. Why wait? You've got motivation now.
How many times have you said "just one more day" only to say it again tomorrow, and ultimately another year passes by.
Today.
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This is a special shout out to all my fellow quitters who quit with me everyday, those in Feb 11 and the special new ones that have decided to post with us everyday.
This year has sucked for me, My best friend took his life in June, the day after telling me everything was fine. He was my best friend since 4th grade, college roommate for 4 years and we were bestman in each other's wedding's. How the hell do you recover from that?
Me and My wife are staying very close to his wife and kids. I am still sad but you know what........ I am still quit.
When this all went down in June, I was ready to jump back into it because it was that old comfort zone, cope will make it better! wrong! I stayed strong because of Feb 11 posters.
I say THANK YOU to our Fellowship, thank you to all that post with us, and thank you to my amigos.
I would have caved without you guys. Let's all have a great 2013. Happy New Year!
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Not too sure this is the right place to post, or right forum. Right now, don't care. Started Cope when I was 9 at the hand of my father, who bought it to quit cigarettes. That was 1977. A can of day minimum, expect while deployed in the Corps, smoked to get by. Also shared dips, and re-cycled. Even recycled shared dips. Whatever until we got more. It was like crack, I guess. I never thought about quitting. I enjoy a fresh dip. I started swallowing the spit in 6th grade so I could dip in class, and have switched back spitting since. I have to sleep with one in, or I can't go to sleep. I decided to quit yesterday, and spit the last dip out at midnight, so it's only been 15 and a half hours, and I'm already losing my mind. I'm determined to follow it through. At 7 bucks a can her in MA, the savings alone is worth the agony of quitting. I asked my wife to help, and deal with me. I don't have any friends that chew, or ever have chewed. Or smoked for that matter. So this is going to be a long road to travel. Let's give it a go.
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Not too sure this is the right place to post, or right forum. Right now, don't care. Started Cope when I was 9 at the hand of my father, who bought it to quit cigarettes. That was 1977. A can of day minimum, expect while deployed in the Corps, smoked to get by. Also shared dips, and re-cycled. Even recycled shared dips. Whatever until we got more. It was like crack, I guess. I never thought about quitting. I enjoy a fresh dip. I started swallowing the spit in 6th grade so I could dip in class, and have switched back spitting since. I have to sleep with one in, or I can't go to sleep. I decided to quit yesterday, and spit the last dip out at midnight, so it's only been 15 and a half hours, and I'm already losing my mind. I'm determined to follow it through. At 7 bucks a can her in MA, the savings alone is worth the agony of quitting. I asked my wife to help, and deal with me. I don't have any friends that chew, or ever have chewed. Or smoked for that matter. So this is going to be a long road to travel. Let's give it a go.
hi this is cdaniels i hear you loud and clear. check your in box for my number.
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Not too sure this is the right place to post, or right forum. Right now, don't care. Started Cope when I was 9 at the hand of my father, who bought it to quit cigarettes. That was 1977. A can of day minimum, expect while deployed in the Corps, smoked to get by. Also shared dips, and re-cycled. Even recycled shared dips. Whatever until we got more. It was like crack, I guess. I never thought about quitting. I enjoy a fresh dip. I started swallowing the spit in 6th grade so I could dip in class, and have switched back spitting since. I have to sleep with one in, or I can't go to sleep. I decided to quit yesterday, and spit the last dip out at midnight, so it's only been 15 and a half hours, and I'm already losing my mind. I'm determined to follow it through. At 7 bucks a can her in MA, the savings alone is worth the agony of quitting. I asked my wife to help, and deal with me. I don't have any friends that chew, or ever have chewed. Or smoked for that matter. So this is going to be a long road to travel. Let's give it a go.
hi this is cdaniels i hear you loud and clear. check your in box for my number.
welcome and congrats on the last day one ever!
check your email again. theres another number.
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Not too sure this is the right place to post, or right forum. Right now, don't care. Started Cope when I was 9 at the hand of my father, who bought it to quit cigarettes. That was 1977. A can of day minimum, expect while deployed in the Corps, smoked to get by. Also shared dips, and re-cycled. Even recycled shared dips. Whatever until we got more. It was like crack, I guess. I never thought about quitting. I enjoy a fresh dip. I started swallowing the spit in 6th grade so I could dip in class, and have switched back spitting since. I have to sleep with one in, or I can't go to sleep. I decided to quit yesterday, and spit the last dip out at midnight, so it's only been 15 and a half hours, and I'm already losing my mind. I'm determined to follow it through. At 7 bucks a can her in MA, the savings alone is worth the agony of quitting. I asked my wife to help, and deal with me. I don't have any friends that chew, or ever have chewed. Or smoked for that matter. So this is going to be a long road to travel. Let's give it a go.
hi this is cdaniels i hear you loud and clear. check your in box for my number.
welcome and congrats on the last day one ever!
check your email again. theres another number.
Other than "let's give it a go" that was a perfect post.
http://blog.killthecan.org/2009/12/chan ... ocabulary/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2009/12/change-your-vocabulary/)
Change that vocabulary. We're here to help.
Welcome aboard.
chewie
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Not too sure this is the right place to post, or right forum. Right now, don't care. Started Cope when I was 9 at the hand of my father, who bought it to quit cigarettes. That was 1977. A can of day minimum, expect while deployed in the Corps, smoked to get by. Also shared dips, and re-cycled. Even recycled shared dips. Whatever until we got more. It was like crack, I guess. I never thought about quitting. I enjoy a fresh dip. I started swallowing the spit in 6th grade so I could dip in class, and have switched back spitting since. I have to sleep with one in, or I can't go to sleep. I decided to quit yesterday, and spit the last dip out at midnight, so it's only been 15 and a half hours, and I'm already losing my mind. I'm determined to follow it through. At 7 bucks a can her in MA, the savings alone is worth the agony of quitting. I asked my wife to help, and deal with me. I don't have any friends that chew, or ever have chewed. Or smoked for that matter. So this is going to be a long road to travel. Let's give it a go.
Learning how to play guitar you "give a go". I tried it once. It was hard, much harder than I thought. It hurt to contort my hand/fingers, the chords pissed me off and the tips of my fingers hurt really bad so I gave it up. No biggie, I'll never know how to play guitar. Bfd.
Quitting chew is kinda similar actually. It harder than you think but if you get discouraged and quit quitting, it is a big fucking deal. You can literally die. I'm not exaggerating when I say that. Tobacco will kill you. Go to words of wisdom and read the Kern Story or most recently Randys Story at the top in bold.
Don't "give this a go". Put your heart and soul into it. Be determined to quit. Quit like fuck is a common expression on this site. Adopt that attitude, lean on your brothers, post roll, and keep active. That's the road to quit. Follow it, don't "give it a go".
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In case you missed it... the forums hit 14,000 members today.
You're part of something special folks. Just remember, the old saying is wrong...
Quitters ALWAYS win!
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In case you missed it... the forums hit 14,000 members today.
You're part of something special folks. Just remember, the old saying is wrong...
Quitters ALWAYS win!
'clap'
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In case you missed it... the forums hit 14,000 members today.
You're part of something special folks. Just remember, the old saying is wrong...
Quitters ALWAYS win!
'clap'
Out-friggin-standing
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Not too sure this is the right place to post, or right forum. Right now, don't care. Started Cope when I was 9 at the hand of my father, who bought it to quit cigarettes. That was 1977. A can of day minimum, expect while deployed in the Corps, smoked to get by. Also shared dips, and re-cycled. Even recycled shared dips. Whatever until we got more. It was like crack, I guess. I never thought about quitting. I enjoy a fresh dip. I started swallowing the spit in 6th grade so I could dip in class, and have switched back spitting since. I have to sleep with one in, or I can't go to sleep. I decided to quit yesterday, and spit the last dip out at midnight, so it's only been 15 and a half hours, and I'm already losing my mind. I'm determined to follow it through. At 7 bucks a can her in MA, the savings alone is worth the agony of quitting. I asked my wife to help, and deal with me. I don't have any friends that chew, or ever have chewed. Or smoked for that matter. So this is going to be a long road to travel. Let's give it a go.
Check your inbox one more time. You got another number.
Welcome to the suck my friend call or text if you need to. We are all here to support.
Mike
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Ok so I've been dippin since I was 16 (i am now 19) and every time I quit I turn to cigarettes. I would like to stop it all but also enjoy a nice cigar ever once in a while. Any advice would help!
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Ok so I've been dippin since I was 16 (i am now 19) and every time I quit I turn to cigarettes. I would like to stop it all but also enjoy a nice cigar ever once in a while. Any advice would help!
No cigars. Quitting is all or nothing. In or out. Do or do not.
You can do this.
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Ok so I've been dippin since I was 16 (i am now 19) and every time I quit I turn to cigarettes. I would like to stop it all but also enjoy a nice cigar ever once in a while. Any advice would help!
No cigars. Quitting is all or nothing. In or out. Do or do not.
You can do this.
It is a simple as making a daily DECISION that you will NOT ingest nicotine, no matter what. It will not be easy at first, but the further you get from your first day quit, the easier it will be.
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Ok so I've been dippin since I was 16 (i am now 19) and every time I quit I turn to cigarettes. I would like to stop it all but also enjoy a nice cigar ever once in a while. Any advice would help!
No cigars. Quitting is all or nothing. In or out. Do or do not.
You can do this.
It is a simple as making a daily DECISION that you will NOT ingest nicotine, no matter what. It will not be easy at first, but the further you get from your first day quit, the easier it will be.
Simple. No.
Can an alcoholic have a beer now and then. No.
You're an addict. Never again, for any reason.
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Day 53 for me now and that accomplishment feels great. Trying to quit the fake shit now and that seems just as rough. Also started p90x and ill tell u brothers its rough and it takes an edge off. Still focusing day to day. Everyday is a battle and I'm sure it is for everyone. I have gotten back to not getting any sleep. That sucks. By the way for anyone on this forum thinking about getting into shape I recommend p90x because they live by the same basic philosophy: one day at a time. Just rambling I guess. Might be in a bit of a fog right now. I know someone on here will read and understand. Ok I'm done. Quit with all of you.
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Day 53 for me now and that accomplishment feels great. Trying to quit the fake shit now and that seems just as rough. Also started p90x and ill tell u brothers its rough and it takes an edge off. Still focusing day to day. Everyday is a battle and I'm sure it is for everyone. I have gotten back to not getting any sleep. That sucks. By the way for anyone on this forum thinking about getting into shape I recommend p90x because they live by the same basic philosophy: one day at a time. Just rambling I guess. Might be in a bit of a fog right now. I know someone on here will read and understand. Ok I'm done. Quit with all of you.
congrats on day 53, brother- proud of you!
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Day 53 for me now and that accomplishment feels great. Trying to quit the fake shit now and that seems just as rough. Also started p90x and ill tell u brothers its rough and it takes an edge off. Still focusing day to day. Everyday is a battle and I'm sure it is for everyone. I have gotten back to not getting any sleep. That sucks. By the way for anyone on this forum thinking about getting into shape I recommend p90x because they live by the same basic philosophy: one day at a time. Just rambling I guess. Might be in a bit of a fog right now. I know someone on here will read and understand. Ok I'm done. Quit with all of you.
congrats on day 53, brother- proud of you!
Taking your life back one day at a time.
Well done!!
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Not too sure this is the right place to post, or right forum. Right now, don't care. Started Cope when I was 9 at the hand of my father, who bought it to quit cigarettes. That was 1977. A can of day minimum, expect while deployed in the Corps, smoked to get by. Also shared dips, and re-cycled. Even recycled shared dips. Whatever until we got more. It was like crack, I guess. I never thought about quitting. I enjoy a fresh dip. I started swallowing the spit in 6th grade so I could dip in class, and have switched back spitting since. I have to sleep with one in, or I can't go to sleep. I decided to quit yesterday, and spit the last dip out at midnight, so it's only been 15 and a half hours, and I'm already losing my mind. I'm determined to follow it through. At 7 bucks a can her in MA, the savings alone is worth the agony of quitting. I asked my wife to help, and deal with me. I don't have any friends that chew, or ever have chewed. Or smoked for that matter. So this is going to be a long road to travel. Let's give it a go.
hi this is cdaniels i hear you loud and clear. check your in box for my number.
welcome and congrats on the last day one ever!
check your email again. theres another number.
Other than "let's give it a go" that was a perfect post.
http://blog.killthecan.org/2009/12/chan ... ocabulary/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2009/12/change-your-vocabulary/)
Change that vocabulary. We're here to help.
Welcome aboard.
chewie
This jewel of wisdom has made the difference for me......just sayin. Now, every day is a battle that I expect to win............not hope......... but expect. You take caving off the table by removing words like "if", "maybe" and "try". Convince yourself of this fact. I have a little experience here because back in 2011 I got all up in arms because a member here jumped my shit for saying something to the effect that I was going to "try" really hard to quit. I bitched and whined about it..............but now I realize how right they were.
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Not too sure this is the right place to post, or right forum. Right now, don't care. Started Cope when I was 9 at the hand of my father, who bought it to quit cigarettes. That was 1977. A can of day minimum, expect while deployed in the Corps, smoked to get by. Also shared dips, and re-cycled. Even recycled shared dips. Whatever until we got more. It was like crack, I guess. I never thought about quitting. I enjoy a fresh dip. I started swallowing the spit in 6th grade so I could dip in class, and have switched back spitting since. I have to sleep with one in, or I can't go to sleep. I decided to quit yesterday, and spit the last dip out at midnight, so it's only been 15 and a half hours, and I'm already losing my mind. I'm determined to follow it through. At 7 bucks a can her in MA, the savings alone is worth the agony of quitting. I asked my wife to help, and deal with me. I don't have any friends that chew, or ever have chewed. Or smoked for that matter. So this is going to be a long road to travel. Let's give it a go.
hi this is cdaniels i hear you loud and clear. check your in box for my number.
welcome and congrats on the last day one ever!
check your email again. theres another number.
Other than "let's give it a go" that was a perfect post.
http://blog.killthecan.org/2009/12/chan ... ocabulary/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2009/12/change-your-vocabulary/)
Change that vocabulary. We're here to help.
Welcome aboard.
chewie
This jewel of wisdom has made the difference for me......just sayin. Now, every day is a battle that I expect to win............not hope......... but expect. You take caving off the table by removing words like "if", "maybe" and "try". Convince yourself of this fact. I have a little experience here because back in 2011 I got all up in arms because a member here jumped my shit for saying something to the effect that I was going to "try" really hard to quit. I bitched and whined about it..............but now I realize how right they were.
Rethink the idea of how much you "enjoy" a dip. Make us a list of what makes it enjoyable. If necessary ol LOOT will make you a list of why you should hate the shit. Get your mind right bro. You romanticize...you fail. You try...you fail. We have no room for failure...none.
Welcome to the site.
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Every serious quitter will take this word out of their vocabulary. There is no room for it! The best defense is a good offense. Use the proven aspects of quitting, take the advise of those who are succeeding and avoid the thing that have caused failure!! Understand what you are dealing with!
cave
Pronunciation: \ˈkÄv\
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): caved; cav·ing
intransitive verb
1 : to fall in or down especially from being undermined —usually used with in
2 : to cease to resist : submit —usually used with in
transitive verb
3: to cause to fall or collapse —usually used with in
#1: what causes a quit to be undermined? It can be blamed on the nic bitch, on others, on ability to concentrate or work etc.
#2: cease to resist is often caused by failing to commit.
#3: the fall or collapse happens when a quitter give up, throws in the towel or taps out!
You are in control of your quit and you will determine your success or failure, no one else!
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Every serious quitter will take this word out of their vocabulary. There is no room for it! The best defense is a good offense. Use the proven aspects of quitting, take the advise of those who are succeeding and avoid the thing that have caused failure!! Understand what you are dealing with!
cave
Pronunciation: \ˈkÄv\
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): caved; cav·ing
intransitive verb
1 : to fall in or down especially from being undermined —usually used with in
2 : to cease to resist : submit —usually used with in
transitive verb
3: to cause to fall or collapse —usually used with in
#1: what causes a quit to be undermined? It can be blamed on the nic bitch, on others, on ability to concentrate or work etc.
#2: cease to resist is often caused by failing to commit.
#3: the fall or collapse happens when a quitter give up, throws in the towel or taps out!
You are in control of your quit and you will determine your success or failure, no one else!
If its all about you...why are you here?
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Every serious quitter will take this word out of their vocabulary. There is no room for it! The best defense is a good offense. Use the proven aspects of quitting, take the advise of those who are succeeding and avoid the thing that have caused failure!! Understand what you are dealing with!
cave
Pronunciation: \ˈkÄv\
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): caved; cav·ing
intransitive verb
1 : to fall in or down especially from being undermined —usually used with in
2 : to cease to resist : submit —usually used with in
transitive verb
3: to cause to fall or collapse —usually used with in
#1: what causes a quit to be undermined? It can be blamed on the nic bitch, on others, on ability to concentrate or work etc.
#2: cease to resist is often caused by failing to commit.
#3: the fall or collapse happens when a quitter give up, throws in the towel or taps out!
You are in control of your quit and you will determine your success or failure, no one else!
If its all about you...why are you here?
'bang head' 'Crazy' 'bang head' I thought I was here for the same reason as you. I'm not sure what shows up between the lines I write on your screen!
'Remshot' missed this time Loot I'm still here you can't run me off that easy!!
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Every serious quitter will take this word out of their vocabulary. There is no room for it! The best defense is a good offense. Use the proven aspects of quitting, take the advise of those who are succeeding and avoid the thing that have caused failure!! Understand what you are dealing with!
cave
Pronunciation: \ˈkÄv\
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): caved; cav·ing
intransitive verb
1 : to fall in or down especially from being undermined —usually used with in
2 : to cease to resist : submit —usually used with in
transitive verb
3: to cause to fall or collapse —usually used with in
#1: what causes a quit to be undermined? It can be blamed on the nic bitch, on others, on ability to concentrate or work etc.
#2: cease to resist is often caused by failing to commit.
#3: the fall or collapse happens when a quitter give up, throws in the towel or taps out!
You are in control of your quit and you will determine your success or failure, no one else!
If its all about you...why are you here?
'bang head' 'Crazy' 'bang head' I thought I was here for the same reason as you. I'm not sure what shows up between the lines I write on your screen!
'Remshot' missed this time Loot I'm still here you can't run me off that easy!!
You have a total misinterpretation of the post. It was a softball sugar. If it is truly up to the individual, and LOOT tends to agree, then what is the point of the board? Where does the strength of the collective come into play? LOOT was looking for your input...not trying to run you off.
There is your softball. Pontificate. LOOT is genuinely interested in your thoughts.
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New blog post: 14,000 Things To Be Happy About
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/01/1400 ... ppy-about/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/01/14000-things-to-be-happy-about/)
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Every serious quitter will take this word out of their vocabulary. There is no room for it! The best defense is a good offense. Use the proven aspects of quitting, take the advise of those who are succeeding and avoid the thing that have caused failure!! Understand what you are dealing with!
cave
Pronunciation: \ˈkÄv\
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): caved; cav·ing
intransitive verb
1 : to fall in or down especially from being undermined —usually used with in
2 : to cease to resist : submit —usually used with in
transitive verb
3: to cause to fall or collapse —usually used with in
#1: what causes a quit to be undermined? It can be blamed on the nic bitch, on others, on ability to concentrate or work etc.
#2: cease to resist is often caused by failing to commit.
#3: the fall or collapse happens when a quitter give up, throws in the towel or taps out!
You are in control of your quit and you will determine your success or failure, no one else!
If its all about you...why are you here?
'bang head' 'Crazy' 'bang head' I thought I was here for the same reason as you. I'm not sure what shows up between the lines I write on your screen!
'Remshot' missed this time Loot I'm still here you can't run me off that easy!!
You have a total misinterpretation of the post. It was a softball sugar. If it is truly up to the individual, and LOOT tends to agree, then what is the point of the board? Where does the strength of the collective come into play? LOOT was looking for your input...not trying to run you off.
There is your softball. Pontificate. LOOT is genuinely interested in your thoughts.
Well well well guess I just don't quite understand old Loot very well. I guess I've just been being offensive, thinking it is my best defense when it comes to his comments, since most to me have been quit smug! I'll give it a shot to explain my thoughts on why I'm here!
KTC, posting roll, lending a hand to others and the other aspects here are TOOLS. I choose to use these and others to keep myself quit! I'd been choosing everyday for a damn long time to dip, no one ever held me down and put that poison in my mouth! From day one of my quit no one pulled a can from my hand or pocket. No one was standing over me the night I dumped my last 3 cans down the shitter. No one stood over my shoulder with a club the first time I was faced with real temptation at the convenience store. Each time I've been craving or tempted to go back to the can, no one but WT has made the decision to stay quit!! And yes 'it's all about me' I'm a selfish prick, I quit for me, I make the decision to quit each day for me. When I lend a hand to others any benifit to them is secondary to the benefit it gives me. What inspired me to start this thread was a perfect example. A quitter that I stayed in close contact with and even traded text promises with for a long time after he left KTC decided to cave rather than come to me with what he was going through! I didn't have any part in his cave except maybe persuading him to postpone it a month or two. When it came right down to caving, he made the decision, bought the dip and put in his mouth (with no help from me). I'm still in contact with him, not to persuade him to quit but I enjoy chatting with him and his cave is actually a reminder to me that as an addict I'm Vulnerable! If he posts that day one again all the better.
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Ok so I've been dippin since I was 16 (i am now 19) and every time I quit I turn to cigarettes. I would like to stop it all but also enjoy a nice cigar ever once in a while. Any advice would help!
Join your quit group. Even if you only post roll and don't do anything else on this site, it will give you the confidence to keep going. All of the people on this site are addicts just like you. We come here for support and help because we (or at least I) was too weak to do this alone. I don't know any of these guys personally, but they have already influenced my life and I've only been quit for 6 days.
A very influential post (I don't remember how to get to it) is an open blog of a wife talking about the struggles of her husband who developed cancer and eventually died. I would suggest you search for this and read it, it may change your thoughts.
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Ok so I've been dippin since I was 16 (i am now 19) and every time I quit I turn to cigarettes. I would like to stop it all but also enjoy a nice cigar ever once in a while. Any advice would help!
Join your quit group. Even if you only post roll and don't do anything else on this site, it will give you the confidence to keep going. All of the people on this site are addicts just like you. We come here for support and help because we (or at least I) was too weak to do this alone. I don't know any of these guys personally, but they have already influenced my life and I've only been quit for 6 days.
A very influential post (I don't remember how to get to it) is an open blog of a wife talking about the struggles of her husband who developed cancer and eventually died. I would suggest you search for this and read it, it may change your thoughts.
The story that Scott speaks of can be found here: index.php?showtopic=6800 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6800)
Quit is a decision that is up to you to make. It is simple.. Say no each day... promise that you will not use nicotine for just today.. We make that promise by posting rollcall. It will not be easy at first, but trust me, it gets much better.
Claim your freedom, friend.
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Every serious quitter will take this word out of their vocabulary. There is no room for it! The best defense is a good offense. Use the proven aspects of quitting, take the advise of those who are succeeding and avoid the thing that have caused failure!! Understand what you are dealing with!
cave
Pronunciation: \ˈkÄv\
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): caved; cav·ing
intransitive verb
1 : to fall in or down especially from being undermined —usually used with in
2 : to cease to resist : submit —usually used with in
transitive verb
3: to cause to fall or collapse —usually used with in
#1: what causes a quit to be undermined? It can be blamed on the nic bitch, on others, on ability to concentrate or work etc.
#2: cease to resist is often caused by failing to commit.
#3: the fall or collapse happens when a quitter give up, throws in the towel or taps out!
You are in control of your quit and you will determine your success or failure, no one else!
If its all about you...why are you here?
'bang head' 'Crazy' 'bang head' I thought I was here for the same reason as you. I'm not sure what shows up between the lines I write on your screen!
'Remshot' missed this time Loot I'm still here you can't run me off that easy!!
You have a total misinterpretation of the post. It was a softball sugar. If it is truly up to the individual, and LOOT tends to agree, then what is the point of the board? Where does the strength of the collective come into play? LOOT was looking for your input...not trying to run you off.
There is your softball. Pontificate. LOOT is genuinely interested in your thoughts.
Well well well guess I just don't quite understand old Loot very well. I guess I've just been being offensive, thinking it is my best defense when it comes to his comments, since most to me have been quit smug! I'll give it a shot to explain my thoughts on why I'm here!
KTC, posting roll, lending a hand to others and the other aspects here are TOOLS. I choose to use these and others to keep myself quit! I'd been choosing everyday for a damn long time to dip, no one ever held me down and put that poison in my mouth! From day one of my quit no one pulled a can from my hand or pocket. No one was standing over me the night I dumped my last 3 cans down the shitter. No one stood over my shoulder with a club the first time I was faced with real temptation at the convenience store. Each time I've been craving or tempted to go back to the can, no one but WT has made the decision to stay quit!! And yes 'it's all about me' I'm a selfish prick, I quit for me, I make the decision to quit each day for me. When I lend a hand to others any benifit to them is secondary to the benefit it gives me. What inspired me to start this thread was a perfect example. A quitter that I stayed in close contact with and even traded text promises with for a long time after he left KTC decided to cave rather than come to me with what he was going through! I didn't have any part in his cave except maybe persuading him to postpone it a month or two. When it came right down to caving, he made the decision, bought the dip and put in his mouth (with no help from me). I'm still in contact with him, not to persuade him to quit but I enjoy chatting with him and his cave is actually a reminder to me that as an addict I'm Vulnerable! If he posts that day one again all the better.
So, there is no benefit to KTC from your perspective? No comfort knowing you have allies in the struggles? You gain no accountability from Roll Call? Any accountability from putting yourself on the line to shepherd the new guys? What makes this place work for you? Surely there is something good that makes you come back day after day...or else the loss you experienced with the cave of a brother is just dead weight you dont need.
Smug....that one is new. Short and curt is a function of posting from a cell...and just being an ass in general. Lacking polish, being abrasive, a lousy friend, pompous, always having to be right, unwilling to admit mistakes...all things I've been accused of by people I thought were friends in the past couple weeks. Simply for demanding accountability. Something we pay a lot of lip service to around here at times. See....a lot of people are sensitive to where and how they get called to the carpet. LOOT will generally dress you down where you stand...no matter the company....so yeah, smug does seem to apply. Standby...the hatemail will continue over this post too.
You should answer the questions tho. If you are so inclined.
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Every serious quitter will take this word out of their vocabulary. There is no room for it! The best defense is a good offense. Use the proven aspects of quitting, take the advise of those who are succeeding and avoid the thing that have caused failure!! Understand what you are dealing with!
cave
Pronunciation: \ˈkÄv\
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): caved; cav·ing
intransitive verb
1 : to fall in or down especially from being undermined —usually used with in
2 : to cease to resist : submit —usually used with in
transitive verb
3: to cause to fall or collapse —usually used with in
#1: what causes a quit to be undermined? It can be blamed on the nic bitch, on others, on ability to concentrate or work etc.
#2: cease to resist is often caused by failing to commit.
#3: the fall or collapse happens when a quitter give up, throws in the towel or taps out!
You are in control of your quit and you will determine your success or failure, no one else!
If its all about you...why are you here?
'bang head' 'Crazy' 'bang head' I thought I was here for the same reason as you. I'm not sure what shows up between the lines I write on your screen!
'Remshot' missed this time Loot I'm still here you can't run me off that easy!!
You have a total misinterpretation of the post. It was a softball sugar. If it is truly up to the individual, and LOOT tends to agree, then what is the point of the board? Where does the strength of the collective come into play? LOOT was looking for your input...not trying to run you off.
There is your softball. Pontificate. LOOT is genuinely interested in your thoughts.
Well well well guess I just don't quite understand old Loot very well. I guess I've just been being offensive, thinking it is my best defense when it comes to his comments, since most to me have been quit smug! I'll give it a shot to explain my thoughts on why I'm here!
KTC, posting roll, lending a hand to others and the other aspects here are TOOLS. I choose to use these and others to keep myself quit! I'd been choosing everyday for a damn long time to dip, no one ever held me down and put that poison in my mouth! From day one of my quit no one pulled a can from my hand or pocket. No one was standing over me the night I dumped my last 3 cans down the shitter. No one stood over my shoulder with a club the first time I was faced with real temptation at the convenience store. Each time I've been craving or tempted to go back to the can, no one but WT has made the decision to stay quit!! And yes 'it's all about me' I'm a selfish prick, I quit for me, I make the decision to quit each day for me. When I lend a hand to others any benifit to them is secondary to the benefit it gives me. What inspired me to start this thread was a perfect example. A quitter that I stayed in close contact with and even traded text promises with for a long time after he left KTC decided to cave rather than come to me with what he was going through! I didn't have any part in his cave except maybe persuading him to postpone it a month or two. When it came right down to caving, he made the decision, bought the dip and put in his mouth (with no help from me). I'm still in contact with him, not to persuade him to quit but I enjoy chatting with him and his cave is actually a reminder to me that as an addict I'm Vulnerable! If he posts that day one again all the better.
So, there is no benefit to KTC from your perspective? No comfort knowing you have allies in the struggles? You gain no accountability from Roll Call? Any accountability from putting yourself on the line to shepherd the new guys? What makes this place work for you? Surely there is something good that makes you come back day after day...or else the loss you experienced with the cave of a brother is just dead weight you dont need.
Smug....that one is new. Short and curt is a function of posting from a cell...and just being an ass in general. Lacking polish, being abrasive, a lousy friend, pompous, always having to be right, unwilling to admit mistakes...all things I've been accused of by people I thought were friends in the past couple weeks. Simply for demanding accountability. Something we pay a lot of lip service to around here at times. See....a lot of people are sensitive to where and how they get called to the carpet. LOOT will generally dress you down where you stand...no matter the company....so yeah, smug does seem to apply. Standby...the hatemail will continue over this post too.
You should answer the questions tho. If you are so inclined.
I don't think LooT and WT are that far apart on their thinking, me thinks LooT just wants to be a douche and instead of really reading what WT is feeling he would rather bust WT's balls instead of using this chance for some good.
Again I say to you LooT, WT is a rock solid quitter, instead of busting him down find out the real issue and build him up, use his experience to make KTC into a better place. WT has no problem being accountable, he truly is rock solid, show me that LooT is too, show me that LooT is here for the good of everyone, for the good of the newbies!
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Every serious quitter will take this word out of their vocabulary. There is no room for it! The best defense is a good offense. Use the proven aspects of quitting, take the advise of those who are succeeding and avoid the thing that have caused failure!! Understand what you are dealing with!
cave
Pronunciation: \ˈkÄv\
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): caved; cav·ing
intransitive verb
1 : to fall in or down especially from being undermined —usually used with in
2 : to cease to resist : submit —usually used with in
transitive verb
3: to cause to fall or collapse —usually used with in
#1: what causes a quit to be undermined? It can be blamed on the nic bitch, on others, on ability to concentrate or work etc.
#2: cease to resist is often caused by failing to commit.
#3: the fall or collapse happens when a quitter give up, throws in the towel or taps out!
You are in control of your quit and you will determine your success or failure, no one else!
If its all about you...why are you here?
'bang head' 'Crazy' 'bang head' I thought I was here for the same reason as you. I'm not sure what shows up between the lines I write on your screen!
'Remshot' missed this time Loot I'm still here you can't run me off that easy!!
You have a total misinterpretation of the post. It was a softball sugar. If it is truly up to the individual, and LOOT tends to agree, then what is the point of the board? Where does the strength of the collective come into play? LOOT was looking for your input...not trying to run you off.
There is your softball. Pontificate. LOOT is genuinely interested in your thoughts.
Well well well guess I just don't quite understand old Loot very well. I guess I've just been being offensive, thinking it is my best defense when it comes to his comments, since most to me have been quit smug! I'll give it a shot to explain my thoughts on why I'm here!
KTC, posting roll, lending a hand to others and the other aspects here are TOOLS. I choose to use these and others to keep myself quit! I'd been choosing everyday for a damn long time to dip, no one ever held me down and put that poison in my mouth! From day one of my quit no one pulled a can from my hand or pocket. No one was standing over me the night I dumped my last 3 cans down the shitter. No one stood over my shoulder with a club the first time I was faced with real temptation at the convenience store. Each time I've been craving or tempted to go back to the can, no one but WT has made the decision to stay quit!! And yes 'it's all about me' I'm a selfish prick, I quit for me, I make the decision to quit each day for me. When I lend a hand to others any benifit to them is secondary to the benefit it gives me. What inspired me to start this thread was a perfect example. A quitter that I stayed in close contact with and even traded text promises with for a long time after he left KTC decided to cave rather than come to me with what he was going through! I didn't have any part in his cave except maybe persuading him to postpone it a month or two. When it came right down to caving, he made the decision, bought the dip and put in his mouth (with no help from me). I'm still in contact with him, not to persuade him to quit but I enjoy chatting with him and his cave is actually a reminder to me that as an addict I'm Vulnerable! If he posts that day one again all the better.
So, there is no benefit to KTC from your perspective? No comfort knowing you have allies in the struggles? You gain no accountability from Roll Call? Any accountability from putting yourself on the line to shepherd the new guys? What makes this place work for you? Surely there is something good that makes you come back day after day...or else the loss you experienced with the cave of a brother is just dead weight you dont need.
Smug....that one is new. Short and curt is a function of posting from a cell...and just being an ass in general. Lacking polish, being abrasive, a lousy friend, pompous, always having to be right, unwilling to admit mistakes...all things I've been accused of by people I thought were friends in the past couple weeks. Simply for demanding accountability. Something we pay a lot of lip service to around here at times. See....a lot of people are sensitive to where and how they get called to the carpet. LOOT will generally dress you down where you stand...no matter the company....so yeah, smug does seem to apply. Standby...the hatemail will continue over this post too.
You should answer the questions tho. If you are so inclined.
I don't think LooT and WT are that far apart on their thinking, me thinks LooT just wants to be a douche and instead of really reading what WT is feeling he would rather bust WT's balls instead of using this chance for some good.
Again I say to you LooT, WT is a rock solid quitter, instead of busting him down find out the real issue and build him up, use his experience to make KTC into a better place. WT has no problem being accountable, he truly is rock solid, show me that LooT is too, show me that LooT is here for the good of everyone, for the good of the newbies!
You, too, misread. Not busting his balls at all, far from it. Genuinely interested in the thought process and if we get it out of him, it will be the good you look for. Just chill. Let the man answer. He knows there is no ill will by now. Just picking his brain Is all. He damned sure bound to have some insight into what he gets out of being here. LOOT would like to hear it.
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Every serious quitter will take this word out of their vocabulary. There is no room for it! The best defense is a good offense. Use the proven aspects of quitting, take the advise of those who are succeeding and avoid the thing that have caused failure!! Understand what you are dealing with!
cave
Pronunciation: \ˈkÄv\
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): caved; cav·ing
intransitive verb
1 : to fall in or down especially from being undermined —usually used with in
2 : to cease to resist : submit —usually used with in
transitive verb
3: to cause to fall or collapse —usually used with in
#1: what causes a quit to be undermined? It can be blamed on the nic bitch, on others, on ability to concentrate or work etc.
#2: cease to resist is often caused by failing to commit.
#3: the fall or collapse happens when a quitter give up, throws in the towel or taps out!
You are in control of your quit and you will determine your success or failure, no one else!
If its all about you...why are you here?
'bang head' 'Crazy' 'bang head' I thought I was here for the same reason as you. I'm not sure what shows up between the lines I write on your screen!
'Remshot' missed this time Loot I'm still here you can't run me off that easy!!
You have a total misinterpretation of the post. It was a softball sugar. If it is truly up to the individual, and LOOT tends to agree, then what is the point of the board? Where does the strength of the collective come into play? LOOT was looking for your input...not trying to run you off.
There is your softball. Pontificate. LOOT is genuinely interested in your thoughts.
Well well well guess I just don't quite understand old Loot very well. I guess I've just been being offensive, thinking it is my best defense when it comes to his comments, since most to me have been quit smug! I'll give it a shot to explain my thoughts on why I'm here!
KTC, posting roll, lending a hand to others and the other aspects here are TOOLS. I choose to use these and others to keep myself quit! I'd been choosing everyday for a damn long time to dip, no one ever held me down and put that poison in my mouth! From day one of my quit no one pulled a can from my hand or pocket. No one was standing over me the night I dumped my last 3 cans down the shitter. No one stood over my shoulder with a club the first time I was faced with real temptation at the convenience store. Each time I've been craving or tempted to go back to the can, no one but WT has made the decision to stay quit!! And yes 'it's all about me' I'm a selfish prick, I quit for me, I make the decision to quit each day for me. When I lend a hand to others any benifit to them is secondary to the benefit it gives me. What inspired me to start this thread was a perfect example. A quitter that I stayed in close contact with and even traded text promises with for a long time after he left KTC decided to cave rather than come to me with what he was going through! I didn't have any part in his cave except maybe persuading him to postpone it a month or two. When it came right down to caving, he made the decision, bought the dip and put in his mouth (with no help from me). I'm still in contact with him, not to persuade him to quit but I enjoy chatting with him and his cave is actually a reminder to me that as an addict I'm Vulnerable! If he posts that day one again all the better.
So, there is no benefit to KTC from your perspective? No comfort knowing you have allies in the struggles? You gain no accountability from Roll Call? Any accountability from putting yourself on the line to shepherd the new guys? What makes this place work for you? Surely there is something good that makes you come back day after day...or else the loss you experienced with the cave of a brother is just dead weight you dont need.
Smug....that one is new. Short and curt is a function of posting from a cell...and just being an ass in general. Lacking polish, being abrasive, a lousy friend, pompous, always having to be right, unwilling to admit mistakes...all things I've been accused of by people I thought were friends in the past couple weeks. Simply for demanding accountability. Something we pay a lot of lip service to around here at times. See....a lot of people are sensitive to where and how they get called to the carpet. LOOT will generally dress you down where you stand...no matter the company....so yeah, smug does seem to apply. Standby...the hatemail will continue over this post too.
You should answer the questions tho. If you are so inclined.
I don't think LooT and WT are that far apart on their thinking, me thinks LooT just wants to be a douche and instead of really reading what WT is feeling he would rather bust WT's balls instead of using this chance for some good.
Again I say to you LooT, WT is a rock solid quitter, instead of busting him down find out the real issue and build him up, use his experience to make KTC into a better place. WT has no problem being accountable, he truly is rock solid, show me that LooT is too, show me that LooT is here for the good of everyone, for the good of the newbies!
You, too, misread. Not busting his balls at all, far from it. Genuinely interested in the thought process and if we get it out of him, it will be the good you look for. Just chill. Let the man answer. He knows there is no ill will by now. Just picking his brain Is all. He damned sure bound to have some insight into what he gets out of being here. LOOT would like to hear it.
"KTC, posting roll, lending a hand to others and the other aspects here are TOOLS. I choose to use these and others to keep myself quit!"
I guess maybe Loot needs someone to read to him! I thought that was pretty plainly spoken!! As far as smug goes sounds just like Loot except possibly I could have used smug as an adjective to any number of nouns, maybe someone else would like to join in and add some? This could be fun!
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Every serious quitter will take this word out of their vocabulary. There is no room for it! The best defense is a good offense. Use the proven aspects of quitting, take the advise of those who are succeeding and avoid the thing that have caused failure!! Understand what you are dealing with!
cave
Pronunciation: \ˈkÄv\
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): caved; cav·ing
intransitive verb
1 : to fall in or down especially from being undermined —usually used with in
2 : to cease to resist : submit —usually used with in
transitive verb
3: to cause to fall or collapse —usually used with in
#1: what causes a quit to be undermined? It can be blamed on the nic bitch, on others, on ability to concentrate or work etc.
#2: cease to resist is often caused by failing to commit.
#3: the fall or collapse happens when a quitter give up, throws in the towel or taps out!
You are in control of your quit and you will determine your success or failure, no one else!
If its all about you...why are you here?
'bang head' 'Crazy' 'bang head' I thought I was here for the same reason as you. I'm not sure what shows up between the lines I write on your screen!
'Remshot' missed this time Loot I'm still here you can't run me off that easy!!
You have a total misinterpretation of the post. It was a softball sugar. If it is truly up to the individual, and LOOT tends to agree, then what is the point of the board? Where does the strength of the collective come into play? LOOT was looking for your input...not trying to run you off.
There is your softball. Pontificate. LOOT is genuinely interested in your thoughts.
Well well well guess I just don't quite understand old Loot very well. I guess I've just been being offensive, thinking it is my best defense when it comes to his comments, since most to me have been quit smug! I'll give it a shot to explain my thoughts on why I'm here!
KTC, posting roll, lending a hand to others and the other aspects here are TOOLS. I choose to use these and others to keep myself quit! I'd been choosing everyday for a damn long time to dip, no one ever held me down and put that poison in my mouth! From day one of my quit no one pulled a can from my hand or pocket. No one was standing over me the night I dumped my last 3 cans down the shitter. No one stood over my shoulder with a club the first time I was faced with real temptation at the convenience store. Each time I've been craving or tempted to go back to the can, no one but WT has made the decision to stay quit!! And yes 'it's all about me' I'm a selfish prick, I quit for me, I make the decision to quit each day for me. When I lend a hand to others any benifit to them is secondary to the benefit it gives me. What inspired me to start this thread was a perfect example. A quitter that I stayed in close contact with and even traded text promises with for a long time after he left KTC decided to cave rather than come to me with what he was going through! I didn't have any part in his cave except maybe persuading him to postpone it a month or two. When it came right down to caving, he made the decision, bought the dip and put in his mouth (with no help from me). I'm still in contact with him, not to persuade him to quit but I enjoy chatting with him and his cave is actually a reminder to me that as an addict I'm Vulnerable! If he posts that day one again all the better.
So, there is no benefit to KTC from your perspective? No comfort knowing you have allies in the struggles? You gain no accountability from Roll Call? Any accountability from putting yourself on the line to shepherd the new guys? What makes this place work for you? Surely there is something good that makes you come back day after day...or else the loss you experienced with the cave of a brother is just dead weight you dont need.
Smug....that one is new. Short and curt is a function of posting from a cell...and just being an ass in general. Lacking polish, being abrasive, a lousy friend, pompous, always having to be right, unwilling to admit mistakes...all things I've been accused of by people I thought were friends in the past couple weeks. Simply for demanding accountability. Something we pay a lot of lip service to around here at times. See....a lot of people are sensitive to where and how they get called to the carpet. LOOT will generally dress you down where you stand...no matter the company....so yeah, smug does seem to apply. Standby...the hatemail will continue over this post too.
You should answer the questions tho. If you are so inclined.
I don't think LooT and WT are that far apart on their thinking, me thinks LooT just wants to be a douche and instead of really reading what WT is feeling he would rather bust WT's balls instead of using this chance for some good.
Again I say to you LooT, WT is a rock solid quitter, instead of busting him down find out the real issue and build him up, use his experience to make KTC into a better place. WT has no problem being accountable, he truly is rock solid, show me that LooT is too, show me that LooT is here for the good of everyone, for the good of the newbies!
You, too, misread. Not busting his balls at all, far from it. Genuinely interested in the thought process and if we get it out of him, it will be the good you look for. Just chill. Let the man answer. He knows there is no ill will by now. Just picking his brain Is all. He damned sure bound to have some insight into what he gets out of being here. LOOT would like to hear it.
"KTC, posting roll, lending a hand to others and the other aspects here are TOOLS. I choose to use these and others to keep myself quit!"
I guess maybe Loot needs someone to read to him! I thought that was pretty plainly spoken!! As far as smug goes sounds just like Loot except possibly I could have used smug as an adjective to any number of nouns, maybe someone else would like to join in and add some? This could be fun!
Was really hoping you would have elaborated on the tools a bit. Oh well. Carry on.
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Tools...
1. Rollcall. First on the list. Every Day. It is both a promise and a daily reminder that I am an addict. Both are key to my quit.
2. My quit brothers and sisters... Early on in my quit, their advice was what I built my quit on... I came here completely defeated by my addiction. I KNEW that I did not have any answers. I knew there was something missing... Thank God for the folks here that filled in the blanks.. The list of people that helped me on my journey is enormous.
3. Having people's numbers is huge.... I can always find someone when I am having a bad time of it.. Craves seem to flee in fear when I text a brother or sister.
4. Words of wisdom- No matter what I am going through, there is something in "words of wisdom" that helps me through it. Above all else, the first 3 stories about Randy, Tom and Sean remind me what is at stake. Never Again- For any reason.
5. New quitters - They help me remember the battle that I had when I first quit. Every time I see a new quitter fighting for his or her quit, it reminds me that I never want to go back again.
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Hey my name is Jeff. I just created my account about 2 minutes ago, so i dont really know how all of this works. I have been dippin every day for the past 2 years and im at a point right now where I have had enough. Is there anything that has helped anyone quit on here in the past that would be helpful to me? I have no one to turn to since im the only one out of my friends and family who does this.
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Hey my name is Jeff. I just created my account about 2 minutes ago, so i dont really know how all of this works. I have been dippin every day for the past 2 years and im at a point right now where I have had enough. Is there anything that has helped anyone quit on here in the past that would be helpful to me? I have no one to turn to since im the only one out of my friends and family who does this.
Welcome Jeff!
Check out the WELCOME CENTER on the above left. Pay special attention to #4 and #3. Then, get rid of all the nicotine in your posession... flush it, scatter it on the lawn, etc... Just get rid of it in such a way that you cannot "retrieve" it.
Then head on over to the April 2013 quit group found here: index.php?showtopic=7622 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=7622) and post your day 1...
The first three days are going to be intense as nicotine leaves your body.. Remember these days, and know that you are never going to have to go through them again.
Personally I found that fake dip was a huge help early on in my quit. Sunflower seeds, chewing gum, or whatever you need to keep the cancer dirt out of your mouth is good, as long as it doesn't have nicotine in it.
Stop by Introductions (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=25) and tell us something about yourself
For inspiration stop by Words of Wisdom (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=41) and HOF Speeches (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=9)
What to expect when you quit is found here (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/what.asp) and here (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/symptoms.asp)
Read about Tom and Jenny Kern (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6800), Randy (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6786&st=0#entry22177898), and watch the story of Sean Marsee (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDFNqOuZ3II) as told by his brother.
Print out the Contract to Give Up (http://www.killthecan.org/facts/contract.asp). Carry it around with you and commit to signing it before taking another dip.
Finally, in the upper right corner of the screen, you'll see a link for LIVE CHAT (http://chat.killthecan.org/). This can be a life saver when you're craving, bored, frustrated, whatever. Jump in to Chat and get live support.
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hello, hopefully this post goes through. My name is Frances and i joined this group hoping to get help for my 16yr old son Latrail that has had chewing tobacco addiction for almost a year now. If anyone can help me please help my child let me know. Thank you and God bless.
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hello, hopefully this post goes through. My name is Frances and i joined this group hoping to get help for my 16yr old son Latrail that has had chewing tobacco addiction for almost a year now. If anyone can help me please help my child let me know. Thank you and God bless.
Tell him it's not cool, people die....facts Frances, get him the facts. It's not a game, it's a flipping addiction
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hello, hopefully this post goes through. My name is Frances and i joined this group hoping to get help for my 16yr old son Latrail that has had chewing tobacco addiction for almost a year now. If anyone can help me please help my child let me know. Thank you and God bless.
You're son is too young for the site but you could....
Make him read the Tom and Jenny Kern story as well as Randys story and then watch the Sean Marsee story as told by his brother on youtube. These can all be found in bold at the top of the "Words of Wisdom" portion of the site.
You could also go to www.killthecan.org (http://www.killthecan.org) and under facts and figures click on "cancer pics" and have him stare at them for awhile. Also have him read "facts about smokeless tobacco" in that same section as well "cancer and quitter stories". Hell you could make him read the whole damn site.
Ive never met your son but if he were here id tell him that quitting now would be the smartest thing he could ever do. Id tell him I chewed for 15 years and and that during that time I wasted time, money, and became isolated as I became a slave to chew. I was a liar, a bad friend, a bad dad, a bad father, and was basically a disgusting slobs who would rather spit brown slime into a pop bottle than spend time with my family.
Finally, I would tell him I constantly feared cancer and one day when I got a sore on my lip, I freaked out, had a panic attack and landed in the hospital. Then when I got out I decided to quit but my body was so dependent on chew that I had major anxiety attacks, became depressed, and am currently on anti depression and anti anxiety meds...and I'm 220 days quit.
Chew is great, eh buddy?
Good luck Mam.
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  hello, hopefully this post goes through. My name is Frances and i joined this group hoping to get help for my 16yr old son Latrail that has had chewing tobacco addiction for almost a year now. If anyone can help me please help my child let me know. Thank you and God bless.
You're son is too young for the site but you could....
Make him read the Tom and Jenny Kern story as well as Randys story and then watch the Sean Marsee story as told by his brother on youtube. These can all be found in bold at the top of the "Words of Wisdom" portion of the site.
You could also go to www.killthecan.org (http://www.killthecan.org) and under facts and figures click on "cancer pics" and have him stare at them for awhile. Also have him read "facts about smokeless tobacco" in that same section as well "cancer and quitter stories". Hell you could make him read the whole damn site.
Ive never met your son but if he were here id tell him that quitting now would be the smartest thing he could ever do. Id tell him I chewed for 15 years and and that during that time I wasted time, money, and became isolated as I became a slave to chew. I was a liar, a bad friend, a bad dad, a bad father, and was basically a disgusting slobs who would rather spit brown slime into a pop bottle than spend time with my family.
Finally, I would tell him I constantly feared cancer and one day when I got a sore on my lip, I freaked out, had a panic attack and landed in the hospital. Then when I got out I decided to quit but my body was so dependent on chew that I had major anxiety attacks, became depressed, and am currently on anti depression and anti anxiety meds...and I'm 220 days quit.
Chew is great, eh buddy?
Good luck Mam.
Below are the links to the stories Diesel Mentioned...
Also on youtube look up "gruen von behrens" He was 17 when he was diagnosed with oral cancer. (sorry to scare you... but hopefully it scares Latrail enough to get him to stop using.)
There are also several herbal dips that have no tobacco or nicotine in them that could help him... Hooch and Smokey Mountain are two of the many brands.
Tom and Jenny Kern (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6800), Randy (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6786&st=0#entry22177898), Sean Marsee (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDFNqOuZ3II)
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Every serious quitter will take this word out of their vocabulary. There is no room for it! The best defense is a good offense. Use the proven aspects of quitting, take the advise of those who are succeeding and avoid the thing that have caused failure!! Understand what you are dealing with!
cave
Pronunciation: \ˈkÄv\
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): caved; cav·ing
intransitive verb
1 : to fall in or down especially from being undermined —usually used with in
2 : to cease to resist : submit —usually used with in
transitive verb
3: to cause to fall or collapse —usually used with in
#1: what causes a quit to be undermined? It can be blamed on the nic bitch, on others, on ability to concentrate or work etc.
#2: cease to resist is often caused by failing to commit.
#3: the fall or collapse happens when a quitter give up, throws in the towel or taps out!
You are in control of your quit and you will determine your success or failure, no one else!
If its all about you...why are you here?
'bang head' 'Crazy' 'bang head' I thought I was here for the same reason as you. I'm not sure what shows up between the lines I write on your screen!
'Remshot' missed this time Loot I'm still here you can't run me off that easy!!
You have a total misinterpretation of the post. It was a softball sugar. If it is truly up to the individual, and LOOT tends to agree, then what is the point of the board? Where does the strength of the collective come into play? LOOT was looking for your input...not trying to run you off.
There is your softball. Pontificate. LOOT is genuinely interested in your thoughts.
Well well well guess I just don't quite understand old Loot very well. I guess I've just been being offensive, thinking it is my best defense when it comes to his comments, since most to me have been quit smug! I'll give it a shot to explain my thoughts on why I'm here!
KTC, posting roll, lending a hand to others and the other aspects here are TOOLS. I choose to use these and others to keep myself quit! I'd been choosing everyday for a damn long time to dip, no one ever held me down and put that poison in my mouth! From day one of my quit no one pulled a can from my hand or pocket. No one was standing over me the night I dumped my last 3 cans down the shitter. No one stood over my shoulder with a club the first time I was faced with real temptation at the convenience store. Each time I've been craving or tempted to go back to the can, no one but WT has made the decision to stay quit!! And yes 'it's all about me' I'm a selfish prick, I quit for me, I make the decision to quit each day for me. When I lend a hand to others any benifit to them is secondary to the benefit it gives me. What inspired me to start this thread was a perfect example. A quitter that I stayed in close contact with and even traded text promises with for a long time after he left KTC decided to cave rather than come to me with what he was going through! I didn't have any part in his cave except maybe persuading him to postpone it a month or two. When it came right down to caving, he made the decision, bought the dip and put in his mouth (with no help from me). I'm still in contact with him, not to persuade him to quit but I enjoy chatting with him and his cave is actually a reminder to me that as an addict I'm Vulnerable! If he posts that day one again all the better.
So, there is no benefit to KTC from your perspective? No comfort knowing you have allies in the struggles? You gain no accountability from Roll Call? Any accountability from putting yourself on the line to shepherd the new guys? What makes this place work for you? Surely there is something good that makes you come back day after day...or else the loss you experienced with the cave of a brother is just dead weight you dont need.
Smug....that one is new. Short and curt is a function of posting from a cell...and just being an ass in general. Lacking polish, being abrasive, a lousy friend, pompous, always having to be right, unwilling to admit mistakes...all things I've been accused of by people I thought were friends in the past couple weeks. Simply for demanding accountability. Something we pay a lot of lip service to around here at times. See....a lot of people are sensitive to where and how they get called to the carpet. LOOT will generally dress you down where you stand...no matter the company....so yeah, smug does seem to apply. Standby...the hatemail will continue over this post too.
You should answer the questions tho. If you are so inclined.
I don't think LooT and WT are that far apart on their thinking, me thinks LooT just wants to be a douche and instead of really reading what WT is feeling he would rather bust WT's balls instead of using this chance for some good.
Again I say to you LooT, WT is a rock solid quitter, instead of busting him down find out the real issue and build him up, use his experience to make KTC into a better place. WT has no problem being accountable, he truly is rock solid, show me that LooT is too, show me that LooT is here for the good of everyone, for the good of the newbies!
You, too, misread. Not busting his balls at all, far from it. Genuinely interested in the thought process and if we get it out of him, it will be the good you look for. Just chill. Let the man answer. He knows there is no ill will by now. Just picking his brain Is all. He damned sure bound to have some insight into what he gets out of being here. LOOT would like to hear it.
"KTC, posting roll, lending a hand to others and the other aspects here are TOOLS. I choose to use these and others to keep myself quit!"
I guess maybe Loot needs someone to read to him! I thought that was pretty plainly spoken!! As far as smug goes sounds just like Loot except possibly I could have used smug as an adjective to any number of nouns, maybe someone else would like to join in and add some? This could be fun!
Was really hoping you would have elaborated on the tools a bit. Oh well. Carry on.
This thread reminds me of the time me and my wife got into a argument over who ate the last oreo cookie. I also wanted to add that both of have strengthened my quit in your own unique way.
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Every serious quitter will take this word out of their vocabulary. There is no room for it! The best defense is a good offense. Use the proven aspects of quitting, take the advise of those who are succeeding and avoid the thing that have caused failure!! Understand what you are dealing with!
cave
Pronunciation: \ˈkÄv\
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): caved; cav·ing
intransitive verb
1 : to fall in or down especially from being undermined —usually used with in
2 : to cease to resist : submit —usually used with in
transitive verb
3: to cause to fall or collapse —usually used with in
#1: what causes a quit to be undermined? It can be blamed on the nic bitch, on others, on ability to concentrate or work etc.
#2: cease to resist is often caused by failing to commit.
#3: the fall or collapse happens when a quitter give up, throws in the towel or taps out!
You are in control of your quit and you will determine your success or failure, no one else!
If its all about you...why are you here?
'bang head' 'Crazy' 'bang head' I thought I was here for the same reason as you. I'm not sure what shows up between the lines I write on your screen!
'Remshot' missed this time Loot I'm still here you can't run me off that easy!!
You have a total misinterpretation of the post. It was a softball sugar. If it is truly up to the individual, and LOOT tends to agree, then what is the point of the board? Where does the strength of the collective come into play? LOOT was looking for your input...not trying to run you off.
There is your softball. Pontificate. LOOT is genuinely interested in your thoughts.
Well well well guess I just don't quite understand old Loot very well. I guess I've just been being offensive, thinking it is my best defense when it comes to his comments, since most to me have been quit smug! I'll give it a shot to explain my thoughts on why I'm here!
KTC, posting roll, lending a hand to others and the other aspects here are TOOLS. I choose to use these and others to keep myself quit! I'd been choosing everyday for a damn long time to dip, no one ever held me down and put that poison in my mouth! From day one of my quit no one pulled a can from my hand or pocket. No one was standing over me the night I dumped my last 3 cans down the shitter. No one stood over my shoulder with a club the first time I was faced with real temptation at the convenience store. Each time I've been craving or tempted to go back to the can, no one but WT has made the decision to stay quit!! And yes 'it's all about me' I'm a selfish prick, I quit for me, I make the decision to quit each day for me. When I lend a hand to others any benifit to them is secondary to the benefit it gives me. What inspired me to start this thread was a perfect example. A quitter that I stayed in close contact with and even traded text promises with for a long time after he left KTC decided to cave rather than come to me with what he was going through! I didn't have any part in his cave except maybe persuading him to postpone it a month or two. When it came right down to caving, he made the decision, bought the dip and put in his mouth (with no help from me). I'm still in contact with him, not to persuade him to quit but I enjoy chatting with him and his cave is actually a reminder to me that as an addict I'm Vulnerable! If he posts that day one again all the better.
So, there is no benefit to KTC from your perspective? No comfort knowing you have allies in the struggles? You gain no accountability from Roll Call? Any accountability from putting yourself on the line to shepherd the new guys? What makes this place work for you? Surely there is something good that makes you come back day after day...or else the loss you experienced with the cave of a brother is just dead weight you dont need.
Smug....that one is new. Short and curt is a function of posting from a cell...and just being an ass in general. Lacking polish, being abrasive, a lousy friend, pompous, always having to be right, unwilling to admit mistakes...all things I've been accused of by people I thought were friends in the past couple weeks. Simply for demanding accountability. Something we pay a lot of lip service to around here at times. See....a lot of people are sensitive to where and how they get called to the carpet. LOOT will generally dress you down where you stand...no matter the company....so yeah, smug does seem to apply. Standby...the hatemail will continue over this post too.
You should answer the questions tho. If you are so inclined.
I don't think LooT and WT are that far apart on their thinking, me thinks LooT just wants to be a douche and instead of really reading what WT is feeling he would rather bust WT's balls instead of using this chance for some good.
Again I say to you LooT, WT is a rock solid quitter, instead of busting him down find out the real issue and build him up, use his experience to make KTC into a better place. WT has no problem being accountable, he truly is rock solid, show me that LooT is too, show me that LooT is here for the good of everyone, for the good of the newbies!
You, too, misread. Not busting his balls at all, far from it. Genuinely interested in the thought process and if we get it out of him, it will be the good you look for. Just chill. Let the man answer. He knows there is no ill will by now. Just picking his brain Is all. He damned sure bound to have some insight into what he gets out of being here. LOOT would like to hear it.
"KTC, posting roll, lending a hand to others and the other aspects here are TOOLS. I choose to use these and others to keep myself quit!"
I guess maybe Loot needs someone to read to him! I thought that was pretty plainly spoken!! As far as smug goes sounds just like Loot except possibly I could have used smug as an adjective to any number of nouns, maybe someone else would like to join in and add some? This could be fun!
Was really hoping you would have elaborated on the tools a bit. Oh well. Carry on.
This thread reminds me of the time me and my wife got into a argument over who ate the last oreo cookie. I also wanted to add that both of have strengthened my quit in your own unique way.
Maybe they just need to bang each other to get over it??? 'crackup'
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Know any smokers that want to quit? Have them check out Whackthepack.com (http://forum.whackthepack.com) We've had several smokers make the Hall of Fame over there. One is just about 2/3 of the way to the HOF as of this posting. Stop in and say hello to Coop Bean's Mom on her journey to the hall.
Whack the Pack is site dedicated to helping smokers become ex-smokers, and is brought to you by Kill the Can.
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  hello, hopefully this post goes through. My name is Frances and i joined this group hoping to get help for my 16yr old son Latrail that has had chewing tobacco addiction for almost a year now. If anyone can help me please help my child let me know. Thank you and God bless.
You're son is too young for the site but you could....
Make him read the Tom and Jenny Kern story as well as Randys story and then watch the Sean Marsee story as told by his brother on youtube. These can all be found in bold at the top of the "Words of Wisdom" portion of the site.
You could also go to www.killthecan.org (http://www.killthecan.org) and under facts and figures click on "cancer pics" and have him stare at them for awhile. Also have him read "facts about smokeless tobacco" in that same section as well "cancer and quitter stories". Hell you could make him read the whole damn site.
Ive never met your son but if he were here id tell him that quitting now would be the smartest thing he could ever do. Id tell him I chewed for 15 years and and that during that time I wasted time, money, and became isolated as I became a slave to chew. I was a liar, a bad friend, a bad dad, a bad father, and was basically a disgusting slobs who would rather spit brown slime into a pop bottle than spend time with my family.
Finally, I would tell him I constantly feared cancer and one day when I got a sore on my lip, I freaked out, had a panic attack and landed in the hospital. Then when I got out I decided to quit but my body was so dependent on chew that I had major anxiety attacks, became depressed, and am currently on anti depression and anti anxiety meds...and I'm 220 days quit.
Chew is great, eh buddy?
Good luck Mam.
Below are the links to the stories Diesel Mentioned...
Also on youtube look up "gruen von behrens" He was 17 when he was diagnosed with oral cancer. (sorry to scare you... but hopefully it scares Latrail enough to get him to stop using.)
There are also several herbal dips that have no tobacco or nicotine in them that could help him... Hooch and Smokey Mountain are two of the many brands.
Tom and Jenny Kern (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6800), Randy (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6786&st=0#entry22177898), Sean Marsee (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDFNqOuZ3II)
Frances I feel your pain as a parent and understand it. I have a 31 year old daughter that was involved in dangerous activities in her late teenage years. Her mother and I spent many tear filled hours trying to find ways to help her. You didn't mention does your son have any desire to quit? My daughter didn't and as an addict for 40 years I didn't want to quit. The links that others have shared are great stories that possibly can help your son realize he is dealing with a very dangerous poison. An example of how strong this addiction is: over 25 years ago I spent everyday for several months setting with a friend dieing of oral cancer from chewing. The man had a massive hole in the side of his face. We both continued dipping and I saw him die from the poison. I don't mean to cause you more fear but point out the reality of the addiction. If your son wants to quit it is very much possible but until he has a desire there is very little you can do but stay close to him, continue loving him and be there for him to talk to if he does want to quit. Another very real problem for a 16 year old young man is; peer pressure!! Ma'am if your son is willing to listen to an old fart like me I would be glad to write a letter to him personally and explain how I regret the freedom I've given up and the ways nicotine stole 40 years of my life.. Pm me if I can be of any help. Honestly I do feel and understand your pain as a parent.
WT57 -284 days free-
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  hello, hopefully this post goes through. My name is Frances and i joined this group hoping to get help for my 16yr old son Latrail that has had chewing tobacco addiction for almost a year now. If anyone can help me please help my child let me know. Thank you and God bless.
You're son is too young for the site but you could....
Make him read the Tom and Jenny Kern story as well as Randys story and then watch the Sean Marsee story as told by his brother on youtube. These can all be found in bold at the top of the "Words of Wisdom" portion of the site.
You could also go to www.killthecan.org (http://www.killthecan.org) and under facts and figures click on "cancer pics" and have him stare at them for awhile. Also have him read "facts about smokeless tobacco" in that same section as well "cancer and quitter stories". Hell you could make him read the whole damn site.
Ive never met your son but if he were here id tell him that quitting now would be the smartest thing he could ever do. Id tell him I chewed for 15 years and and that during that time I wasted time, money, and became isolated as I became a slave to chew. I was a liar, a bad friend, a bad dad, a bad father, and was basically a disgusting slobs who would rather spit brown slime into a pop bottle than spend time with my family.
Finally, I would tell him I constantly feared cancer and one day when I got a sore on my lip, I freaked out, had a panic attack and landed in the hospital. Then when I got out I decided to quit but my body was so dependent on chew that I had major anxiety attacks, became depressed, and am currently on anti depression and anti anxiety meds...and I'm 220 days quit.
Chew is great, eh buddy?
Good luck Mam.
Below are the links to the stories Diesel Mentioned...
Also on youtube look up "gruen von behrens" He was 17 when he was diagnosed with oral cancer. (sorry to scare you... but hopefully it scares Latrail enough to get him to stop using.)
There are also several herbal dips that have no tobacco or nicotine in them that could help him... Hooch and Smokey Mountain are two of the many brands.
Tom and Jenny Kern (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6800), Randy (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6786&st=0#entry22177898), Sean Marsee (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDFNqOuZ3II)
Frances I feel your pain as a parent and understand it. I have a 31 year old daughter that was involved in dangerous activities in her late teenage years. Her mother and I spent many tear filled hours trying to find ways to help her. You didn't mention does your son have any desire to quit? My daughter didn't and as an addict for 40 years I didn't want to quit. The links that others have shared are great stories that possibly can help your son realize he is dealing with a very dangerous poison. An example of how strong this addiction is: over 25 years ago I spent everyday for several months setting with a friend dieing of oral cancer from chewing. The man had a massive hole in the side of his face. We both continued dipping and I saw him die from the poison. I don't mean to cause you more fear but point out the reality of the addiction. If your son wants to quit it is very much possible but until he has a desire there is very little you can do but stay close to him, continue loving him and be there for him to talk to if he does want to quit. Another very real problem for a 16 year old young man is; peer pressure!! Ma'am if your son is willing to listen to an old fart like me I would be glad to write a letter to him personally and explain how I regret the freedom I've given up and the ways nicotine stole 40 years of my life.. Pm me if I can be of any help. Honestly I do feel and understand your pain as a parent.
WT57 -284 days free-
Frances,
All you can do is show your son the truth about dipping. You can't make him quit. He will lie to make you happy and just hide it from you. He has to quit because he wants to quit. Here's another story to share with your son:
Hello, my name is Donna....my son Chance turned 20 only ten days before he passed away on Nov 30, 2011... Six months ago. He still lived at home with me and his stepfather of 18 years and his 15 year old half brother. He had a sister age 23 and a step brother andstep sister age 22 and 20. The reason I am posting here, is Chance dipped Grizzly. I had always fussed at him for this habit. The night of Nov 28, 2011, he fell asleep with Grizzly in his mouth after taking over the counter sleeping meds....along with a Xanax a Dr had given him a prescription for. He aspirated the grizzly into his lungs during the night....toxicology showed the meds was nowhere near fatal...but was enough to make him sleep deeply enough that he didn't know the spit was running down into his lungs. When I tried to wake him that morning, I saw the dip run out of his mouth...he was already in what I later learned was Agonal breath....a death breath. He was in a coma.....by the time the ambulance got him to the hospital he flatlined....they got him back....but he got a fever of 108...and all of his organs failed...I just wanted to warn people about falling asleep with dip in your mouth....and of course sleeping medicines....even over the counter kind like my son bought at walmart....and Dr prescribed....what killed him was the initial phnemonia from aspirating the dip...and just overnight that's how quick it can happen. I tried to wake him at 6:30 am....it was too late....I just want people to know, please be careful...don't fall asleep with dip in your mouth. If I can bring that awareness to just one person...well...Otherwise I don't know how I can go on.
Thank you
Donna Hines
Below is obit
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... d=81284599 (http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=81284599)
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  hello, hopefully this post goes through. My name is Frances and i joined this group hoping to get help for my 16yr old son Latrail that has had chewing tobacco addiction for almost a year now. If anyone can help me please help my child let me know. Thank you and God bless.
You're son is too young for the site but you could....
Make him read the Tom and Jenny Kern story as well as Randys story and then watch the Sean Marsee story as told by his brother on youtube. These can all be found in bold at the top of the "Words of Wisdom" portion of the site.
You could also go to www.killthecan.org (http://www.killthecan.org) and under facts and figures click on "cancer pics" and have him stare at them for awhile. Also have him read "facts about smokeless tobacco" in that same section as well "cancer and quitter stories". Hell you could make him read the whole damn site.
Ive never met your son but if he were here id tell him that quitting now would be the smartest thing he could ever do. Id tell him I chewed for 15 years and and that during that time I wasted time, money, and became isolated as I became a slave to chew. I was a liar, a bad friend, a bad dad, a bad father, and was basically a disgusting slobs who would rather spit brown slime into a pop bottle than spend time with my family.
Finally, I would tell him I constantly feared cancer and one day when I got a sore on my lip, I freaked out, had a panic attack and landed in the hospital. Then when I got out I decided to quit but my body was so dependent on chew that I had major anxiety attacks, became depressed, and am currently on anti depression and anti anxiety meds...and I'm 220 days quit.
Chew is great, eh buddy?
Good luck Mam.
Below are the links to the stories Diesel Mentioned...
Also on youtube look up "gruen von behrens" He was 17 when he was diagnosed with oral cancer. (sorry to scare you... but hopefully it scares Latrail enough to get him to stop using.)
There are also several herbal dips that have no tobacco or nicotine in them that could help him... Hooch and Smokey Mountain are two of the many brands.
Tom and Jenny Kern (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6800), Randy (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6786&st=0#entry22177898), Sean Marsee (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDFNqOuZ3II)
Frances I feel your pain as a parent and understand it. I have a 31 year old daughter that was involved in dangerous activities in her late teenage years. Her mother and I spent many tear filled hours trying to find ways to help her. You didn't mention does your son have any desire to quit? My daughter didn't and as an addict for 40 years I didn't want to quit. The links that others have shared are great stories that possibly can help your son realize he is dealing with a very dangerous poison. An example of how strong this addiction is: over 25 years ago I spent everyday for several months setting with a friend dieing of oral cancer from chewing. The man had a massive hole in the side of his face. We both continued dipping and I saw him die from the poison. I don't mean to cause you more fear but point out the reality of the addiction. If your son wants to quit it is very much possible but until he has a desire there is very little you can do but stay close to him, continue loving him and be there for him to talk to if he does want to quit. Another very real problem for a 16 year old young man is; peer pressure!! Ma'am if your son is willing to listen to an old fart like me I would be glad to write a letter to him personally and explain how I regret the freedom I've given up and the ways nicotine stole 40 years of my life.. Pm me if I can be of any help. Honestly I do feel and understand your pain as a parent.
WT57 -284 days free-
Frances,
All you can do is show your son the truth about dipping. You can't make him quit. He will lie to make you happy and just hide it from you. He has to quit because he wants to quit. Here's another story to share with your son:
Hello, my name is Donna....my son Chance turned 20 only ten days before he passed away on Nov 30, 2011... Six months ago. He still lived at home with me and his stepfather of 18 years and his 15 year old half brother. He had a sister age 23 and a step brother andstep sister age 22 and 20. The reason I am posting here, is Chance dipped Grizzly. I had always fussed at him for this habit. The night of Nov 28, 2011, he fell asleep with Grizzly in his mouth after taking over the counter sleeping meds....along with a Xanax a Dr had given him a prescription for. He aspirated the grizzly into his lungs during the night....toxicology showed the meds was nowhere near fatal...but was enough to make him sleep deeply enough that he didn't know the spit was running down into his lungs. When I tried to wake him that morning, I saw the dip run out of his mouth...he was already in what I later learned was Agonal breath....a death breath. He was in a coma.....by the time the ambulance got him to the hospital he flatlined....they got him back....but he got a fever of 108...and all of his organs failed...I just wanted to warn people about falling asleep with dip in your mouth....and of course sleeping medicines....even over the counter kind like my son bought at walmart....and Dr prescribed....what killed him was the initial phnemonia from aspirating the dip...and just overnight that's how quick it can happen. I tried to wake him at 6:30 am....it was too late....I just want people to know, please be careful...don't fall asleep with dip in your mouth. If I can bring that awareness to just one person...well...Otherwise I don't know how I can go on.
Thank you
Donna Hines
Below is obit
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... d=81284599 (http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=81284599)
Thanks for the post Gmann. Dunno how this post escaped ol LOOT. Is it saved somewhere in Words of Wisdom or sumpin?
Frances...all you can do is point your boy in the right direction and let him find his own way. You push too much and he'll totally shut down on you and hide it. He will never quit until he is damned good and ready. All we can do as parents is arm them with the facts and hope they get it...before it's too late.
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  hello, hopefully this post goes through. My name is Frances and i joined this group hoping to get help for my 16yr old son Latrail that has had chewing tobacco addiction for almost a year now. If anyone can help me please help my child let me know. Thank you and God bless.
You're son is too young for the site but you could....
Make him read the Tom and Jenny Kern story as well as Randys story and then watch the Sean Marsee story as told by his brother on youtube. These can all be found in bold at the top of the "Words of Wisdom" portion of the site.
You could also go to www.killthecan.org (http://www.killthecan.org) and under facts and figures click on "cancer pics" and have him stare at them for awhile. Also have him read "facts about smokeless tobacco" in that same section as well "cancer and quitter stories". Hell you could make him read the whole damn site.
Ive never met your son but if he were here id tell him that quitting now would be the smartest thing he could ever do. Id tell him I chewed for 15 years and and that during that time I wasted time, money, and became isolated as I became a slave to chew. I was a liar, a bad friend, a bad dad, a bad father, and was basically a disgusting slobs who would rather spit brown slime into a pop bottle than spend time with my family.
Finally, I would tell him I constantly feared cancer and one day when I got a sore on my lip, I freaked out, had a panic attack and landed in the hospital. Then when I got out I decided to quit but my body was so dependent on chew that I had major anxiety attacks, became depressed, and am currently on anti depression and anti anxiety meds...and I'm 220 days quit.
Chew is great, eh buddy?
Good luck Mam.
Below are the links to the stories Diesel Mentioned...
Also on youtube look up "gruen von behrens" He was 17 when he was diagnosed with oral cancer. (sorry to scare you... but hopefully it scares Latrail enough to get him to stop using.)
There are also several herbal dips that have no tobacco or nicotine in them that could help him... Hooch and Smokey Mountain are two of the many brands.
Tom and Jenny Kern (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6800), Randy (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6786&st=0#entry22177898), Sean Marsee (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDFNqOuZ3II)
Frances I feel your pain as a parent and understand it. I have a 31 year old daughter that was involved in dangerous activities in her late teenage years. Her mother and I spent many tear filled hours trying to find ways to help her. You didn't mention does your son have any desire to quit? My daughter didn't and as an addict for 40 years I didn't want to quit. The links that others have shared are great stories that possibly can help your son realize he is dealing with a very dangerous poison. An example of how strong this addiction is: over 25 years ago I spent everyday for several months setting with a friend dieing of oral cancer from chewing. The man had a massive hole in the side of his face. We both continued dipping and I saw him die from the poison. I don't mean to cause you more fear but point out the reality of the addiction. If your son wants to quit it is very much possible but until he has a desire there is very little you can do but stay close to him, continue loving him and be there for him to talk to if he does want to quit. Another very real problem for a 16 year old young man is; peer pressure!! Ma'am if your son is willing to listen to an old fart like me I would be glad to write a letter to him personally and explain how I regret the freedom I've given up and the ways nicotine stole 40 years of my life.. Pm me if I can be of any help. Honestly I do feel and understand your pain as a parent.
WT57 -284 days free-
Frances,
All you can do is show your son the truth about dipping. You can't make him quit. He will lie to make you happy and just hide it from you. He has to quit because he wants to quit. Here's another story to share with your son:
Hello, my name is Donna....my son Chance turned 20 only ten days before he passed away on Nov 30, 2011... Six months ago. He still lived at home with me and his stepfather of 18 years and his 15 year old half brother. He had a sister age 23 and a step brother andstep sister age 22 and 20. The reason I am posting here, is Chance dipped Grizzly. I had always fussed at him for this habit. The night of Nov 28, 2011, he fell asleep with Grizzly in his mouth after taking over the counter sleeping meds....along with a Xanax a Dr had given him a prescription for. He aspirated the grizzly into his lungs during the night....toxicology showed the meds was nowhere near fatal...but was enough to make him sleep deeply enough that he didn't know the spit was running down into his lungs. When I tried to wake him that morning, I saw the dip run out of his mouth...he was already in what I later learned was Agonal breath....a death breath. He was in a coma.....by the time the ambulance got him to the hospital he flatlined....they got him back....but he got a fever of 108...and all of his organs failed...I just wanted to warn people about falling asleep with dip in your mouth....and of course sleeping medicines....even over the counter kind like my son bought at walmart....and Dr prescribed....what killed him was the initial phnemonia from aspirating the dip...and just overnight that's how quick it can happen. I tried to wake him at 6:30 am....it was too late....I just want people to know, please be careful...don't fall asleep with dip in your mouth. If I can bring that awareness to just one person...well...Otherwise I don't know how I can go on.
Thank you
Donna Hines
Below is obit
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... d=81284599 (http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=81284599)
Thanks for the post Gmann. Dunno how this post escaped ol LOOT. Is it saved somewhere in Words of Wisdom or sumpin?
Frances...all you can do is point your boy in the right direction and let him find his own way. You push too much and he'll totally shut down on you and hide it. He will never quit until he is damned good and ready. All we can do as parents is arm them with the facts and hope they get it...before it's too late.
It's on the main site:
http://www.killthecan.org/facts/my-son- ... ed-dip.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/facts/my-son-aspirated-dip.asp)
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Since this is general discussion. I was attempting to peruse youtube to see if anyone had quitting blogs, and was astounded, by the amount of channels dedicated to dipping, as in glorifying it.
Most of them are teens and you just want to smack them upside the head. The older ones my age or older especially this one guy Mudjug1 or something, saying hes ok with kids doing it and saying its 98% safer than cigarettes, because of some doctor who is conveniently funded by the US Smokeless tobacco company.
All the while this idiot admits, his gums hurt and they are receding, yeah dude, that isnt a good thing cancer or no cancer this shit should not be done.
Its like a chemist funded by shell oil saying vehicle emissions are good for the environment.
I am just astonished at the videos of teenagers reviewing dip brands, building tin towers or whatever (I was a total ninja so I never did anything like that). I replied to one, a 17 year old girl mind you, saying stop now, you will regret this shit when you are older. I know it will fall on deaf ears, I was that age once. Kids are stupid.
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Since this is general discussion. I was attempting to peruse youtube to see if anyone had quitting blogs, and was astounded, by the amount of channels dedicated to dipping, as in glorifying it.
Most of them are teens and you just want to smack them upside the head. The older ones my age or older especially this one guy Mudjug1 or something, saying hes ok with kids doing it and saying its 98% safer than cigarettes, because of some doctor who is conveniently funded by the US Smokeless tobacco company.
All the while this idiot admits, his gums hurt and they are receding, yeah dude, that isnt a good thing cancer or no cancer this shit should not be done.
Its like a chemist funded by shell oil saying vehicle emissions are good for the environment.
I am just astonished at the videos of teenagers reviewing dip brands, building tin towers or whatever (I was a total ninja so I never did anything like that). I replied to one, a 17 year old girl mind you, saying stop now, you will regret this shit when you are older. I know it will fall on deaf ears, I was that age once. Kids are stupid.
I fought with the mudjug posse and even emailed back and forth with the Doctor who wrote that book you referenced. Its in my intro somewhere...it happened not too long ago actually.
Don't let them get to you. Sometimes you cant fix stupid.
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Since this is general discussion. I was attempting to peruse youtube to see if anyone had quitting blogs, and was astounded, by the amount of channels dedicated to dipping, as in glorifying it.
Most of them are teens and you just want to smack them upside the head. The older ones my age or older especially this one guy Mudjug1 or something, saying hes ok with kids doing it and saying its 98% safer than cigarettes, because of some doctor who is conveniently funded by the US Smokeless tobacco company.
All the while this idiot admits, his gums hurt and they are receding, yeah dude, that isnt a good thing cancer or no cancer this shit should not be done.
Its like a chemist funded by shell oil saying vehicle emissions are good for the environment.
I am just astonished at the videos of teenagers reviewing dip brands, building tin towers or whatever (I was a total ninja so I never did anything like that). I replied to one, a 17 year old girl mind you, saying stop now, you will regret this shit when you are older. I know it will fall on deaf ears, I was that age once. Kids are stupid.
I fought with the mudjug posse and even emailed back and forth with the Doctor who wrote that book you referenced. Its in my intro somewhere...it happened not too long ago actually.
Don't let them get to you. Sometimes you cant fix stupid.
It's a silly argument anyway, IMHO, whether dipping is "safer"or not than smoking. Assuming dipping is safer (just assuming), I see the logic to dip instead of smoke going something like this: "I worry that injecting heroin is way too dangerous, so I'm just gonna start chasing the dragon." Ridiculous, but that's the same logic I used to stop smoking and start dipping. So i prefer to focus on the part of nic addiction that is undeniable once the curtain is pulled back. Even the crazy doctors can't dispute that nicotine addiction in any form is detrimental to your life. And by life, I don't mean the maintenance of a pulse. I mean LIVING, as in: I can spend Christmas Eve playing cards with the kids instead of hours isolated in the shitter or trying to find an open c-store at midnight. I see someone packing a big dip, and I'm immediately in awe of the fact that nicotine rules, runs and regulates EVERY part of their life, and they don't even know it...
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Since this is general discussion. I was attempting to peruse youtube to see if anyone had quitting blogs, and was astounded, by the amount of channels dedicated to dipping, as in glorifying it.
Most of them are teens and you just want to smack them upside the head. The older ones my age or older especially this one guy Mudjug1 or something, saying hes ok with kids doing it and saying its 98% safer than cigarettes, because of some doctor who is conveniently funded by the US Smokeless tobacco company.
All the while this idiot admits, his gums hurt and they are receding, yeah dude, that isnt a good thing cancer or no cancer this shit should not be done.
Its like a chemist funded by shell oil saying vehicle emissions are good for the environment.
I am just astonished at the videos of teenagers reviewing dip brands, building tin towers or whatever (I was a total ninja so I never did anything like that). I replied to one, a 17 year old girl mind you, saying stop now, you will regret this shit when you are older. I know it will fall on deaf ears, I was that age once. Kids are stupid.
I fought with the mudjug posse and even emailed back and forth with the Doctor who wrote that book you referenced. Its in my intro somewhere...it happened not too long ago actually.
Don't let them get to you. Sometimes you cant fix stupid.
It's a silly argument anyway, IMHO, whether dipping is "safer"or not than smoking. Assuming dipping is safer (just assuming), I see the logic to dip instead of smoke going something like this: "I worry that injecting heroin is way too dangerous, so I'm just gonna start chasing the dragon." Ridiculous, but that's the same logic I used to stop smoking and start dipping. So i prefer to focus on the part of nic addiction that is undeniable once the curtain is pulled back. Even the crazy doctors can't dispute that nicotine addiction in any form is detrimental to your life. And by life, I don't mean the maintenance of a pulse. I mean LIVING, as in: I can spend Christmas Eve playing cards with the kids instead of hours isolated in the shitter or trying to find an open c-store at midnight. I see someone packing a big dip, and I'm immediately in awe of the fact that nicotine rules, runs and regulates EVERY part of their life, and they don't even know it...
After spending my evening terrifying the shit out of myself about mouth cancer and examining my own mouth finding a red spot on the inside of my left cheek that had me paranoid and up till 5 am (the irony of potentially finding out and getting cancer 12 days after quitting), fortunately, said spot was no longer there when I woke up this morning.
Anyway, when they sit here and say its safer, and the odds of getting mouth cancer are so tiny. Tell that to people that dipped and got it. I don't care if it were tiny, I don't want to be the one who just ignored it and kept on with my gross ass habit, and got mouth cancer knowing I never attempted to stop and its my fault.
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Damnit, I got distracted with a mini-rant and forgot the reason I'm posting in the general section:
what's the best way to post from a cruise ship. And by "best", I mean cheapest....
Btw, I find it odd that posting from my Jon boat is gonna be more convenient than posting from a modern gillion-ton cruise ship.
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Damnit, I got distracted with a mini-rant and forgot the reason I'm posting in the general section:
what's the best way to post from a cruise ship. And by "best", I mean cheapest....
Btw, I find it odd that posting from my Jon boat is gonna be more convenient than posting from a modern gillion-ton cruise ship.
Text from your cell?
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Damnit, I got distracted with a mini-rant and forgot the reason I'm posting in the general section:
what's the best way to post from a cruise ship. And by "best", I mean cheapest....
Btw, I find it odd that posting from my Jon boat is gonna be more convenient than posting from a modern gillion-ton cruise ship.
Text from your cell?
The LLLOOOOVVVVEEE Boat!!!!
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Damnit, I got distracted with a mini-rant and forgot the reason I'm posting in the general section:
what's the best way to post from a cruise ship. And by "best", I mean cheapest....
Btw, I find it odd that posting from my Jon boat is gonna be more convenient than posting from a modern gillion-ton cruise ship.
Text from your cell?
The LLLOOOOVVVVEEE Boat!!!!
If youre at sea probably have to spring for the wifi, overpriced but easy enough
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Damnit, I got distracted with a mini-rant and forgot the reason I'm posting in the general section:
what's the best way to post from a cruise ship. And by "best", I mean cheapest....
Btw, I find it odd that posting from my Jon boat is gonna be more convenient than posting from a modern gillion-ton cruise ship.
Text from your cell?
The LLLOOOOVVVVEEE Boat!!!!
If youre at sea probably have to spring for the wifi, overpriced but easy enough
gmann and razd will most likely be in the honeymoon suite.. you could have them post for you.
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With all the great quitting going on in here. There's hardly a day without someone hitting a milestone. This is the place to be; there's a party happening every day! B)
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With all the great quitting going on in here. There's hardly a day without someone hitting a milestone. This is the place to be; there's a party happening every day! B)
Hi, my name is Casey, I am 18 years old and I am recently new to quitting chew. It has been 18 days now and the withdrawals feel endless. I need help and personal stories of withdrawals. I feel very anxious and scared sometimes. It makes me feel like its a new life and everything is fake. It has made me very emotional, sometimes I have a foggy memory or mind. I just want this feeling to go away. It caused some digestive problems at first but it has improved. I had loss in appetite and the funny part of all of this is, I have not had one craving/desire to take another dip. I have just been hungry but unable to eat much. I lost weight. It all just feels endless. Many have said welcome to sobriety. I still have my doubts. It just makes me feel crazy and I've had loss of interest in things. I just hope its all going to end. Someone please help? I don't really know how blogs work and I don't know how to see if someone has replied or not.
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Kinda diggin the new layout. Nice view above the line, thanks Sugah!
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Kinda diggin the new layout. Nice view above the line, thanks Sugah!
It's cleaner then Vag's shorn man parts.
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Is this where I do roll call?
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Is this where I do roll call?
No,
Here.
index.php?showtopic=7622 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=7622)
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Is this where I do roll call?
No,
Here.
index.php?showtopic=7622 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=7622)
Thanks buddy.
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Is this where I do roll call?
No,
Here.
index.php?showtopic=7622 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=7622)
Thanks buddy.
You two might get along just fine!
B)
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Ok, so the last two nights I have had the most vivid dreams about chew. I mean both times I woke up thinking I had really been chewing tobacco and/or smoking.......and I was pissed off.
I haven't had any nicotine for two months.........I have heard these dreams were sometimes pretty intense, but this was too funny.
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Is this where I do roll call?
No,
Here.
index.php?showtopic=7622 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=7622)
Thanks buddy.
You two might get along just fine!
B)
I didn't realize we were on Match.com. _
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Is this where I do roll call?
No,
Here.
index.php?showtopic=7622 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=7622)
Thanks buddy.
You two might get along just fine!
B)
I didn't realize we were on Match.com. _
See...that right there is funny.
Welcome Thor.
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Is this where I do roll call?
No,
Here.
index.php?showtopic=7622 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=7622)
Thanks buddy.
You two might get along just fine!
B)
I didn't realize we were on Match.com. _
See...that right there is funny.
Welcome Thor.
Nolaq is just jealous because no one has ever picked "Nolaq Jr." for a name. :rolleyes:
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I love reading those HOF speeches! Keep 'em coming . . . .
'clap'
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My Quit
By: Casey Betancur
01/16/2012
Life is a big mystery, as most would say. There are many things one goes through in which he canÂ’t understand. For me, that was the horrible things my body has went through after quitting chewing tobacco. It all started December 26th, 2012. Now I was chewing every day for three years, starting at age 15 and ending at age 18. I would consume about half a can or a whole can every day or other day, depending on when I relied on it most. I pretty much relied on chew for every event in my life for three years to bring me happiness. Some people say nicotine or tobacco is harmless. They are wrong. So anyway two days before this all took place, I drastically shortened the amount of chew I had those two days and how long I had them in my lip. One day I only had two or three dips for about twenty minutes then took them out, the second day I had about two dips for fifteen minutes and just didnÂ’t want it anymore. I had no intentions of quitting. Then later that night on the 26th, it all hit me. I started to feel fake and I became really anxious thinking there was something wrong with my health. I didnÂ’t calm down for hours, and my girlfriend had to stay over until midnight until I fell asleep. Then next morning I woke up in a panic and had a different perspective on life. I was so scared that my entire life had been fake or that my thoughts were causing me to become mentally ill or insane. I started dry heaving and feeling the tear in my stomach every time I leaned over the toilet in hopes of relief. It never revealed itself. I had my mom take me to the hospital because of these feelings I was having. I lost the sense of any emotion you could think of. I suddenly felt like I did not love or care about my girlfriend, mom, sister, brothers, or friends or anything important in life. I couldnÂ’t figure out why I was disconnected from life. I couldnÂ’t even focus in school or play basketball because it just felt unreal. I didnÂ’t go places in fear of the way outside or other people looked like. Not only did it cause temporary mental problems, but also physical problems. It begin to hurt when urinating, or felt like I lost control of my bowels and had spasms causing me to become even more anxious about my health. So at the hospital they gave me a pee test and a swab to see what had happened in my private areas. The test came back negative. I still felt lost and scared with my heart pounding and my body going numb, I had no idea about withdrawals the first day. Doctors recommended help from psychologists which does help I heard. So I went home that night and tried to just fight this feeling of weirdness. I fell asleep and had a very intense dream. It was not like most dreams. I remembered every specific detail such as prices of dogs I was purchasing, phone numbers, names of buildings when just passing by. I could control my dreams, and even have personal thoughts in my dreams. The next day was the same exact thing, it felt like this fear and mental illness I had was a switch that was just left on and never shut off for one second. The world was different. My life was different. I would start crying for no reason. Or have the craziest thoughts or fear of going insane. I lost my appetite. I was only eating maybe one meal a day by forcing myself. I knew my body was hungry, but I just couldnÂ’t eat the same. I lost 30 pounds and I was still having troubles going to the bathroom and with the sense of touch. When my mom would rub my back it was different, or when I cut my figure it didnÂ’t hurt as bad as it would have before. I felt like I was constantly dreaming throughout the day. These feelings lasted every day for about 12 days with-out one moment of relief. Now I became obsessed. I was researching withdrawal symptoms, and finding more understanding of those symptoms such as anxiety, depression, irritability, change in appetite, the fogged mind and many other symptoms. I found myself researching for hours. Different websites, different meanings to match anything I was feeling. I begin to lose hope. I felt like it was just endless, like I would never be happy again or have feelings for anyone or see everything the way I use to. It was all just completely fake. I had even crazier thoughts thinking that I died and I was just reliving my days the same from day to day and that the reason it looked fake was because I had died and I was just still here to fix mistakes I have made in my life. There is just so many ways it has affected my life. Remembering twenty-four nightmares perfectly over a course of twelve days was just not normal to me. The funny thing about it is I have not had one craving in fear that chew has actually done this to me. I had two dreams so far where I put a fatty In my lip and could actually taste it and feel it in my dreams and IÂ’d wake up in a panic still feeling fake. I begin to think my entire family hated me for it. I woke up one morning unable to remember where I was or what I did the day before or people in my life. It made me act out as someone else and I could not find the words to speak, almost as if I was slow. No one believed how I was feeling. I ended up going to the hospital again for this feeling of fakeness. They gave me several blood test to see if I had a chemical imbalance or if other drugs were in my system. Yet again, they were all negative. Granted I did also quit smoking marijuana big time. And I had smoked about a week before quitting chew but it hadnÂ’t been for a while. I freaked out then too. But anyways I was relieved to find that a nurse told me all about her anxiety and how it made her feel fake and scared who so bad she didnÂ’t know what to do. Everything she felt was the same as what I felt. So it sort of relieved me. But here I am today, twenty-one days into my quit and so far IÂ’ve quit my job, ditched school, joined a kill the can group online to talk to people about my story and of course mine is unique and crazy. I finally feel stronger and have some hope that this will all be over soon. I had great support from teachers, family members, doctors, my girlfriend, and other people online with similar stories. I signed up for a call from a specialist to check in on me and reinsure that this is my new life, this was reality. Now some people, well actually most people do not go through half of what I go through. Some people just having cravings and anger and soon give in to relapse. So if you are one reading my story, then do not feel afraid to quit chewing because it is possible and it can be done and it does not mean this will happen to you. Before saying no you canÂ’t quit answer me this, how does it make your family feel? How would it affect everyone in your life if you were to get mouth cancer? There are so many worse things you have to deal with if you continue use of chew than just quitting and having withdrawals. If you end up feelings similar things and feel like giving up or feel like it will never end just remember what does not kill you will make you stronger. Time soon becomes your best friend. Get all the help you and support you can get no matter how scared or embarrassed you feel. Keep positive thoughts, and never give in to chew again. QUIT! DonÂ’t listen to your friends who say itÂ’s not bad for you because it is a lie, and no it is not cool. Chewing Tobacco has over 4,000 chemicals in it that alter your emotions. People chew to get through lifeÂ’s daily stresses. If your mad, what do you do? Throw in a dip. After you eat? Throw in a dip. When you wake up? Throw in a dip. When you are out at a game or hanging with friends? Throw in a dip. Chew has become part of your life and your brain relies on it to get you through the day. The nicotine replaces the dopamine in your brain so it is actually a chemical controlling you. It is not your life. DonÂ’t let it control you. Welcome to sobriety.
P.S Day 23 and I am just sad and tired and not motivated to do anything. Starting to feel anxious now.
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Casey, I'm LMAO! Amazing your 18, I'm 55 and our stories and symptoms of quitting are similar. I promise life keeps getting better! Just keep telling the bitch to F-off. Pm me if you need anything.
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Posted this in my April 2012 Quit roll call page, but wanted to put it here for anyone else it may help...
Haven't been here in quite some time.
Still quit, I guess day 377 or so.
Recommended this site to customer the other day whose 25 year old son dips.
Had a HORRIBLE dream two nights ago. worst dream in a long time...
I took a dip in my dream with an old friend who showed up out of the blue. Woke up feeling like a shithead extremely disappointed in myself. Was actually a few minutes before I realized it was just a dream. Really, really thought Eric had been in town the day before and that I had dipped with him on my back porch. Whew!!!
Not a single day goes by that I don't have a crave. 2 minutes long sometimes, 20 minutes long others...
Haven't used the fake stuff in a long, long time. maybe since April or May. Reach for a piece of Big Red when the crave is especially acute. But Ive noticed that I don't think about dipping anymore. Even seeing someone with a dip or can does not trigger a crave. I don't look at the can in convenience stores anymore, either...
Glad you guys are still rolling and posting. Wanted you all to know I was still out here and still successfully quit........so far.
Struggle is not as hard as it was, but I am still vigilant. Very grateful that this place exists.
Thanks, fellas,
MBS
hang in there Casey. Wish I had the balls to do what youre doing now back when I was your age. Wish I had half the money I spent in last 30 years or so on dip and/or cigs, too...;-)
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Does anyone besides me want to fly into a rage at the tobacco companies everytime they see a display at the store. I mean come on. Is the general population stupid or what? It's obvious to me that they are targeting our children. Why else would they manufacture so many flavors of tobacco that taste like, or look like they might taste like, candy? This week I also read somewhere that the candy flavored tobaccos have higher levels of nicotine. This helps get the kids hooked in a hurry. Another thing I read is that the more "adult" flavor tobaccos like cope, or straight skoal, have lower levels of nicotine in them. This makes you want and have to buy more cans to get the amounts of nicotine your body has to have. I don't know if this is true or not but it makes sense to me. If I were in the business of selling death I would probably use the same tactics.
Don't you think it's time that our government , and us, call their bluff? I think the next time the tobacco officials have to testify before congress, and they will, the very first time they state that nicotine is not addictive or that they are not targeting children, they should be thrown in jail for perjury.
How about we place a 200% tax or more on tobacco. Every cent of that tax should be reserved to help take care of those who have health problems from tobacco and to educate the children and the rest of the public about the dangers of smoking and chewing. At least the tax would take that particular tax burden off of the rest of us.
I wish I could find a cs that doesn't sell chew or cigs. I would be there best customer.
Mike
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Does anyone besides me want to fly into a rage at the tobacco companies everytime they see a display at the store. I mean come on. Is the general population stupid or what? It's obvious to me that they are targeting our children. Why else would they manufacture so many flavors of tobacco that taste like, or look like they might taste like, candy? This week I also read somewhere that the candy flavored tobaccos have higher levels of nicotine. This helps get the kids hooked in a hurry. Another thing I read is that the more "adult" flavor tobaccos like cope, or straight skoal, have lower levels of nicotine in them. This makes you want and have to buy more cans to get the amounts of nicotine your body has to have. I don't know if this is true or not but it makes sense to me. If I were in the business of selling death I would probably use the same tactics.
Don't you think it's time that our government , and us, call their bluff? I think the next time the tobacco officials have to testify before congress, and they will, the very first time they state that nicotine is not addictive or that they are not targeting children, they should be thrown in jail for perjury.
How about we place a 200% tax or more on tobacco. Every cent of that tax should be reserved to help take care of those who have health problems from tobacco and to educate the children and the rest of the public about the dangers of smoking and chewing. At least the tax would take that particular tax burden off of the rest of us.
I wish I could find a cs that doesn't sell chew or cigs. I would be there best customer.
Mike
I get enraged and saddened. It won't happen through legislation, however. The pockets of Big Tobacco and Big Government are nearly the same thing.
Keep the rage. It'll motivate you to keep quit and to help others.
Hey Big Tobacco! 'Finger'
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Does anyone besides me want to fly into a rage at the tobacco companies everytime they see a display at the store. I mean come on. Is the general population stupid or what? It's obvious to me that they are targeting our children. Why else would they manufacture so many flavors of tobacco that taste like, or look like they might taste like, candy? This week I also read somewhere that the candy flavored tobaccos have higher levels of nicotine. This helps get the kids hooked in a hurry. Another thing I read is that the more "adult" flavor tobaccos like cope, or straight skoal, have lower levels of nicotine in them. This makes you want and have to buy more cans to get the amounts of nicotine your body has to have. I don't know if this is true or not but it makes sense to me. If I were in the business of selling death I would probably use the same tactics.
Don't you think it's time that our government , and us, call their bluff? I think the next time the tobacco officials have to testify before congress, and they will, the very first time they state that nicotine is not addictive or that they are not targeting children, they should be thrown in jail for perjury.
How about we place a 200% tax or more on tobacco. Every cent of that tax should be reserved to help take care of those who have health problems from tobacco and to educate the children and the rest of the public about the dangers of smoking and chewing. At least the tax would take that particular tax burden off of the rest of us.
I wish I could find a cs that doesn't sell chew or cigs. I would be there best customer.
Mike
I get enraged and saddened. It won't happen through legislation, however. The pockets of Big Tobacco and Big Government are nearly the same thing.
Keep the rage. It'll motivate you to keep quit and to help others.
Hey Big Tobacco! 'Finger'
"is the general population stupid or what..."
yes, yes we are. isn't that why we're here...fighting...odaat?
unfortunately, big tobacco has an incredible business model and a large client list -- however, they have patriots from KTC fighting back, and now that we know we're all 'stupid or what', they've created a bunch of pissed-off loud-mouthed ragers fighting back.
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Does anyone besides me want to fly into a rage at the tobacco companies everytime they see a display at the store. I mean come on. Is the general population stupid or what? It's obvious to me that they are targeting our children. Why else would they manufacture so many flavors of tobacco that taste like, or look like they might taste like, candy? This week I also read somewhere that the candy flavored tobaccos have higher levels of nicotine. This helps get the kids hooked in a hurry. Another thing I read is that the more "adult" flavor tobaccos like cope, or straight skoal, have lower levels of nicotine in them. This makes you want and have to buy more cans to get the amounts of nicotine your body has to have. I don't know if this is true or not but it makes sense to me. If I were in the business of selling death I would probably use the same tactics.
Don't you think it's time that our government , and us, call their bluff? I think the next time the tobacco officials have to testify before congress, and they will, the very first time they state that nicotine is not addictive or that they are not targeting children, they should be thrown in jail for perjury.
How about we place a 200% tax or more on tobacco. Every cent of that tax should be reserved to help take care of those who have health problems from tobacco and to educate the children and the rest of the public about the dangers of smoking and chewing. At least the tax would take that particular tax burden off of the rest of us.
I wish I could find a cs that doesn't sell chew or cigs. I would be there best customer.
Mike
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Mike, I am glad to read this.
Reminds me that terrorist organizations are also domestic. These ass hats are accountable for 3 million deaths worldwide. No one seems to care because spread out 3 mil kills worldwide over a year and it doesn't seem significant. 3 million???? Blow up a city like Houston each year. That is the blood on USTobacco's hands. Annually!
As for me and my house, not one cent funds those murdering organizations! We stand against these murdeing, child seducing scum!!!
For every 3 that die or quit, they recruit 5 children under 18 to become addicted. Look up the epidemic in Indonesia! They aren't hurting for killing their customers. America is improving in awareness though and tobacco isn't growing in America.
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New blog post: Why We Meet - The KillTheCan.org Brotherhood
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/01/why- ... otherhood/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/01/why-we-meet-the-killthecan-org-brotherhood/)
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From the New England Journal of Medicine
Smokers lose at least one decade of life expectancy over non-smokers on average. The encouraging news is that quitting before age 40 reduces the smoking-related death risk by 90% compared to continuing on as s smoker.
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From the New England Journal of Medicine
Smokers lose at least one decade of life expectancy over non-smokers on average. The encouraging news is that quitting before age 40 reduces the smoking-related death risk by 90% compared to continuing on as s smoker.
I read this and thought it was dangerous to tell the youth that if you quit before 40 it's mostly reversible. Not sure why they say that. I feel like tobacco caused plenty of damage and I'm 37.
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From the New England Journal of Medicine
Smokers lose at least one decade of life expectancy over non-smokers on average. The encouraging news is that quitting before age 40 reduces the smoking-related death risk by 90% compared to continuing on as s smoker.
I read this and thought it was dangerous to tell the youth that if you quit before 40 it's mostly reversible. Not sure why they say that. I feel like tobacco caused plenty of damage and I'm 37.
I saw this on reddit.
I also saw a bunch of smokers say "Great! Now I can quit in X years and still be fine!".
My question was why they wanted to quit something that brought them so much joy.
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From the New England Journal of Medicine
Smokers lose at least one decade of life expectancy over non-smokers on average. The encouraging news is that quitting before age 40 reduces the smoking-related death risk by 90% compared to continuing on as s smoker.
I read this and thought it was dangerous to tell the youth that if you quit before 40 it's mostly reversible. Not sure why they say that. I feel like tobacco caused plenty of damage and I'm 37.
I saw this on reddit.
I also saw a bunch of smokers say "Great! Now I can quit in X years and still be fine!".
My question was why they wanted to quit something that brought them so much joy.
I agree totally. My main reason for posting it was to show the significance of quitting. Using the crap is always a Russian Roulette.
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New blog post: KillTheCan.org To Attend 2013 National Smokeless Summit
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/01/kill ... ss-summit/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/01/killthecan-org-to-attend-2013-national-smokeless-summit/)
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From the New England Journal of Medicine
Smokers lose at least one decade of life expectancy over non-smokers on average. The encouraging news is that quitting before age 40 reduces the smoking-related death risk by 90% compared to continuing on as s smoker.
I read this and thought it was dangerous to tell the youth that if you quit before 40 it's mostly reversible. Not sure why they say that. I feel like tobacco caused plenty of damage and I'm 37.
I saw this on reddit.
I also saw a bunch of smokers say "Great! Now I can quit in X years and still be fine!".
My question was why they wanted to quit something that brought them so much joy.
I agree totally. My main reason for posting it was to show the significance of quitting. Using the crap is always a Russian Roulette.
From the LOOT journal of clean:
Keeping that shit outta your gourd will not lead to cancer.
One day at a time, you can have your life back.
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New blog post: KillTheCan.org To Attend 2013 National Smokeless Summit
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/01/kill ... ss-summit/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/01/killthecan-org-to-attend-2013-national-smokeless-summit/)
Is the summit open to the general public? Since first reading your post about the summit I've considered jumping across the border to check it out. I live just a couple hours away.
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good luck i am on last can. day 1 to be Jan 30 'zombie'
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good luck i am on last can. day 1 to be Jan 30 'zombie'
Lets hope the dip you ingest today isnt the one that ultimately kills you.
What is special about tomorrow? Tomorrow never comes sugar. Youll make 1000 excuse why tomorrow is no good. Flush it now...and hit roll call.
And you dont need luck. Just a big st of nads and some support.
Post up buttercup.
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good luck i am on last can. day 1 to be Jan 30 'zombie'
Lets hope the dip you ingest today isnt the one that ultimately kills you.
What is special about tomorrow? Tomorrow never comes sugar. Youll make 1000 excuse why tomorrow is no good. Flush it now...and hit roll call.
And you dont need luck. Just a big st of nads and some support.
Post up buttercup.
This is my first official day. I'm going to chew gum when I get the urge to dip. Wish me luck
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good luck i am on last can. day 1 to be Jan 30 'zombie'
Lets hope the dip you ingest today isnt the one that ultimately kills you.
What is special about tomorrow? Tomorrow never comes sugar. Youll make 1000 excuse why tomorrow is no good. Flush it now...and hit roll call.
And you dont need luck. Just a big st of nads and some support.
Post up buttercup.
This is my first official day. I'm going to chew gum when I get the urge to dip. Wish me luck
You don't need luck bro. Luck is for weak minded, weak willed individuals. Luck has no place in the vocabulary of an addict. You do realize you are an addict right?
Post Roll Call. Everyday. Honor your word.
It's an extremely simple concept, yet the most difficult thing you'll do.
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good luck i am on last can. day 1 to be Jan 30 'zombie'
Lets hope the dip you ingest today isnt the one that ultimately kills you.
What is special about tomorrow? Tomorrow never comes sugar. Youll make 1000 excuse why tomorrow is no good. Flush it now...and hit roll call.
And you dont need luck. Just a big st of nads and some support.
Post up buttercup.
This is my first official day. I'm going to chew gum when I get the urge to dip. Wish me luck
You don't need luck bro. Luck is for weak minded, weak willed individuals. Luck has no place in the vocabulary of an addict. You do realize you are an addict right?
Post Roll Call. Everyday. Honor your word.
It's an extremely simple concept, yet the most difficult thing you'll do.
D-e-t-e-r-m-i-n-a-t-i-o-n. For whatever life throws at you to stay quit. Luck has no place in quitting.
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good luck i am on last can. day 1 to be Jan 30 'zombie'
Lets hope the dip you ingest today isnt the one that ultimately kills you.
What is special about tomorrow? Tomorrow never comes sugar. Youll make 1000 excuse why tomorrow is no good. Flush it now...and hit roll call.
And you dont need luck. Just a big st of nads and some support.
Post up buttercup.
This is my first official day. I'm going to chew gum when I get the urge to dip. Wish me luck
You don't need luck bro. Luck is for weak minded, weak willed individuals. Luck has no place in the vocabulary of an addict. You do realize you are an addict right?
Post Roll Call. Everyday. Honor your word.
It's an extremely simple concept, yet the most difficult thing you'll do.
D-e-t-e-r-m-i-n-a-t-i-o-n. For whatever life throws at you to stay quit. Luck has no place in quitting.
As previously said, we grow a new sac and QUIT in here!!! There is NO luck to quitting. You want it BAD enough you WILL Quit!!!!!! And we can help!
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New blog post:Â KillTheCan.org To Attend 2013 National Smokeless Summit
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/01/kill ... ss-summit/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/01/killthecan-org-to-attend-2013-national-smokeless-summit/)
Is the summit open to the general public? Since first reading your post about the summit I've considered jumping across the border to check it out. I live just a couple hours away.
It is indeed. There is a cost associated, but its open to all.
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good luck i am on last can. day 1 to be Jan 30 'zombie'
Lets hope the dip you ingest today isnt the one that ultimately kills you.
What is special about tomorrow? Tomorrow never comes sugar. Youll make 1000 excuse why tomorrow is no good. Flush it now...and hit roll call.
And you dont need luck. Just a big st of nads and some support.
Post up buttercup.
This is my first official day. I'm going to chew gum when I get the urge to dip. Wish me luck
You don't need luck bro. Luck is for weak minded, weak willed individuals. Luck has no place in the vocabulary of an addict. You do realize you are an addict right?
Post Roll Call. Everyday. Honor your word.
It's an extremely simple concept, yet the most difficult thing you'll do.
D-e-t-e-r-m-i-n-a-t-i-o-n. For whatever life throws at you to stay quit. Luck has no place in quitting.
As previously said, we grow a new sac and QUIT in here!!! There is NO luck to quitting. You want it BAD enough you WILL Quit!!!!!! And we can help!
First day went good! You guys are right I don't need luck. I have the willpower to quit. Will post roll call tommorow morning and every morning after
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good luck i am on last can. day 1 to be Jan 30 'zombie'
Lets hope the dip you ingest today isnt the one that ultimately kills you.
What is special about tomorrow? Tomorrow never comes sugar. Youll make 1000 excuse why tomorrow is no good. Flush it now...and hit roll call.
And you dont need luck. Just a big st of nads and some support.
Post up buttercup.
This is my first official day. I'm going to chew gum when I get the urge to dip. Wish me luck
You don't need luck bro. Luck is for weak minded, weak willed individuals. Luck has no place in the vocabulary of an addict. You do realize you are an addict right?
Post Roll Call. Everyday. Honor your word.
It's an extremely simple concept, yet the most difficult thing you'll do.
D-e-t-e-r-m-i-n-a-t-i-o-n. For whatever life throws at you to stay quit. Luck has no place in quitting.
As previously said, we grow a new sac and QUIT in here!!! There is NO luck to quitting. You want it BAD enough you WILL Quit!!!!!! And we can help!
First day went good! You guys are right I don't need luck. I have the willpower to quit. Will post roll call tommorow morning and every morning after
Good choice. But go ahead and post that day 1 now and then post day 2 first thing tomorrow morning.
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good luck i am on last can. day 1 to be Jan 30 'zombie'
Lets hope the dip you ingest today isnt the one that ultimately kills you.
What is special about tomorrow? Tomorrow never comes sugar. Youll make 1000 excuse why tomorrow is no good. Flush it now...and hit roll call.
And you dont need luck. Just a big st of nads and some support.
Post up buttercup.
This is my first official day. I'm going to chew gum when I get the urge to dip. Wish me luck
You don't need luck bro. Luck is for weak minded, weak willed individuals. Luck has no place in the vocabulary of an addict. You do realize you are an addict right?
Post Roll Call. Everyday. Honor your word.
It's an extremely simple concept, yet the most difficult thing you'll do.
D-e-t-e-r-m-i-n-a-t-i-o-n. For whatever life throws at you to stay quit. Luck has no place in quitting.
As previously said, we grow a new sac and QUIT in here!!! There is NO luck to quitting. You want it BAD enough you WILL Quit!!!!!! And we can help!
First day went good! You guys are right I don't need luck. I have the willpower to quit. Will post roll call tommorow morning and every morning after
Good choice. But go ahead and post that day 1 now and then post day 2 first thing tomorrow morning.
Mason Schell-day 1
I promise never to dip again
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good luck i am on last can. day 1 to be Jan 30 'zombie'
Lets hope the dip you ingest today isnt the one that ultimately kills you.
What is special about tomorrow? Tomorrow never comes sugar. Youll make 1000 excuse why tomorrow is no good. Flush it now...and hit roll call.
And you dont need luck. Just a big st of nads and some support.
Post up buttercup.
This is my first official day. I'm going to chew gum when I get the urge to dip. Wish me luck
You don't need luck bro. Luck is for weak minded, weak willed individuals. Luck has no place in the vocabulary of an addict. You do realize you are an addict right?
Post Roll Call. Everyday. Honor your word.
It's an extremely simple concept, yet the most difficult thing you'll do.
D-e-t-e-r-m-i-n-a-t-i-o-n. For whatever life throws at you to stay quit. Luck has no place in quitting.
As previously said, we grow a new sac and QUIT in here!!! There is NO luck to quitting. You want it BAD enough you WILL Quit!!!!!! And we can help!
First day went good! You guys are right I don't need luck. I have the willpower to quit. Will post roll call tommorow morning and every morning after
Good choice. But go ahead and post that day 1 now and then post day 2 first thing tomorrow morning.
Mason Schell-day 1
I promise never to dip again
Check your inbox. Don't worry about forever right now. Just get up tomorrow and make your promise again. Keep repeating. We'll talk about forever one day, but let's put that on the back burner for now. Just focus on posting roll and quitting for one day at a time.
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why is there a ton of unsupported 'medical facts' about smokeless tobacco on here?
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why is there a ton of unsupported 'medical facts' about smokeless tobacco on here?
What do you mean?
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why is there a ton of unsupported 'medical facts' about smokeless tobacco on here?
What do you mean?
Do tell...
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It seems like a lot of the facts presented here about the dangers of smokeless tobacco are unfounded.
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It seems like a lot of the facts presented here about the dangers of smokeless tobacco are unfounded.
Can you please show me which facts and your evidence to the contrary?
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It seems like a lot of the facts presented here about the dangers of smokeless tobacco are unfounded.
Can you please show me which facts and your evidence to the contrary?
I don't know exactly where the page is but it talks about fiberglass being in dip, when that isn't true, all the stories of those getting cancer, blaming it on dip when consuming alcoholic beverages plays a huge role is getting mouth cancer as well, things like that. I mean I'm not saying dip is good for you because it isn't, but it seems to be a lot safer than some of the other tobacco products.
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It seems like a lot of the facts presented here about the dangers of smokeless tobacco are unfounded.
Can you please show me which facts and your evidence to the contrary?
I don't know exactly where the page is but it talks about fiberglass being in dip, when that isn't true, all the stories of those getting cancer, blaming it on dip when consuming alcoholic beverages plays a huge role is getting mouth cancer as well, things like that. I mean I'm not saying dip is good for you because it isn't, but it seems to be a lot safer than some of the other tobacco products.
So, your whole reason for saying we are liars is because there is an urban legend (that you can't point to here) that fiberglass is in the product?
Can you offer evidence that using nicotine (in any form) does not raise your chances of getting cancer, raises your blood pressure, etc?
Finally, I don't care about what is the "safest" product. I spent years with that addictive weed, and I will tell you I regret it. Not once do I regret quitting it.
How long you been chewing bud?
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It seems like a lot of the facts presented here about the dangers of smokeless tobacco are unfounded.
Can you please show me which facts and your evidence to the contrary?
I don't know exactly where the page is but it talks about fiberglass being in dip, when that isn't true, all the stories of those getting cancer, blaming it on dip when consuming alcoholic beverages plays a huge role is getting mouth cancer as well, things like that. I mean I'm not saying dip is good for you because it isn't, but it seems to be a lot safer than some of the other tobacco products.
So, your whole reason for saying we are liars is because there is an urban legend (that you can't point to here) that fiberglass is in the product?
Can you offer evidence that using nicotine (in any form) does not raise your chances of getting cancer, raises your blood pressure, etc?
Finally, I don't care about what is the "safest" product. I spent years with that addictive weed, and I will tell you I regret it. Not once do I regret quitting it.
How long you been chewing bud?
I don't 'chew'. I've dipped for a total of like 6 months in my entire life, 23 years old, have probably dipped a total of 10 cans in my lifetime, so hardly any at all. So wait, nicotine is the problem now, not the tobacco itself? Where is there scientific evidence that nicotine causes cancer?
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Also, if you haven't checked this website out, I recommend doing so..
*trash taken out by loot*
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Also, if you haven't checked this website out, I recommend doing so..
*trash taken out by loot*
Your ill intentions here are obvious. Choose the wording of your next post well because it will likely be your last.
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Also, if you haven't checked this website out, I recommend doing so..
*trash taken out by loot*Â
Your ill intentions here are obvious. Choose the wording of your next post well because it will likely be your last.
I don't mean to cause ill intentions. Like I said, tobacco in any form is not good for you, but scaring people into quitting something they enjoy and providing false facts to try to make people do so isn't cool.
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Also, if you haven't checked this website out, I recommend doing so..
*trash taken out by loot*
Your ill intentions here are obvious. Choose the wording of your next post well because it will likely be your last.
I don't mean to cause ill intentions. Like I said, tobacco in any form is not good for you, but scaring people into quitting something they enjoy and providing false facts to try to make people do so isn't cool.
Yep...that's your last. Go play somewhere else bro.
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It seems like a lot of the facts presented here about the dangers of smokeless tobacco are unfounded.
Can you please show me which facts and your evidence to the contrary?
I don't know exactly where the page is but it talks about fiberglass being in dip, when that isn't true, all the stories of those getting cancer, blaming it on dip when consuming alcoholic beverages plays a huge role is getting mouth cancer as well, things like that. I mean I'm not saying dip is good for you because it isn't, but it seems to be a lot safer than some of the other tobacco products.
So, your whole reason for saying we are liars is because there is an urban legend (that you can't point to here) that fiberglass is in the product?
Can you offer evidence that using nicotine (in any form) does not raise your chances of getting cancer, raises your blood pressure, etc?
Finally, I don't care about what is the "safest" product. I spent years with that addictive weed, and I will tell you I regret it. Not once do I regret quitting it.
How long you been chewing bud?
I don't 'chew'. I've dipped for a total of like 6 months in my entire life, 23 years old, have probably dipped a total of 10 cans in my lifetime, so hardly any at all. So wait, nicotine is the problem now, not the tobacco itself? Where is there scientific evidence that nicotine causes cancer?
So, if this is so unimportant to you, why are you here trolling our site?
I never "dipped" for the joy of it. That just happened to be my preferred vehicle. I dipped because I was (and always will be) addicted to the drug (nicotine). I enjoy being free from its grip.
This is an "extreme" quitting site, my friend.
You don't have to agree with our methods, but I will tell you this:
Nicotine is a highly addictive chemical.
Quitting is very difficult and scary.
Quitting on your own yields a 5% success rate.
NRT is not effective to quitting smokeless tobacco.
We yield a 25-30% success rate with some simple rules: Post roll, keep your word, and repeat.
You are more than welcome to be here, but you must be nicotine free. To play on our playground, we require you to post roll (how many days you've been quit). We require you to keep your word today.
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damn it i just got to a computer. my phone would not let me post. i am glad you got him loot. but i was about to lay into him. i just had the scare of my life with this shit of a weed and this fucker comes on here talking shit about my quit and my brothers and sisters and is just playing with the nic bitch. really i dont know if i could be any more pissed. i could smell this fake ass a mile away. sory if i have offended my brethern but DAMN...
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Also, if you haven't checked this website out, I recommend doing so..
*trash taken out by loot*
Your ill intentions here are obvious. Choose the wording of your next post well because it will likely be your last.
I don't mean to cause ill intentions. Like I said, tobacco in any form is not good for you, but scaring people into quitting something they enjoy and providing false facts to try to make people do so isn't cool.
Yep...that's your last. Go play somewhere else bro.
What a fuckin knob. We are not trying to make anyone quit, they came here looking for help with it. And we are not trying to scare anyone, they were already scared.
Nothing worse than an over opinionated 23 yr old.
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Also, if you haven't checked this website out, I recommend doing so..
*trash taken out by loot*
Your ill intentions here are obvious. Choose the wording of your next post well because it will likely be your last.
I don't mean to cause ill intentions. Like I said, tobacco in any form is not good for you, but scaring people into quitting something they enjoy and providing false facts to try to make people do so isn't cool.
Yep...that's your last. Go play somewhere else bro.
What a fuckin knob. We are not trying to make anyone quit, they came here looking for help with it. And we are not trying to scare anyone, they were already scared.
Nothing worse than an over opinionated 23 yr old.
From the CDC page on tobacco: (http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/health_effects/tobacco_related_mortality/)
•Smokeless tobacco is a known cause of human cancer.5 In addition, the nicotine in smokeless tobacco may increase the risk for sudden death from a condition where the heart does not beat properly (ventricular arrhythmias) and, as a result, the heart pumps little or no blood to the body's organs.5
5.World Health Organization. Smokeless Tobacco and Some Tobacco-Specific N-Nitrosamines (PDF–3.18 MB). International Agency for Research on Cancer Monographs on the Evaluation of Carcinogenic Risks to Humans Vol. 89. Lyon, (France): World Health Organization, International Agency for Research on Cancer, 2007 [accessed 2011 Mar 11].
And here is a nice compilation of abstracts studying smokeless tobacco and cancer: (http://cancercontrol.cancer.gov/tcrb/monographs/2/m2_3.pdf)
Bottom line is smokeless tobacco contains over two dozen know carcinogens. Stick that in your lip for 10-15 hours a day for 1, 5, 10, 40 years and you increase your chance of getting cancer. Sorry if this scares you.
People don't enjoy using tobacco. People enjoy getting their "fix" of nicotine. People enjoy stopping the misery of withdrawal by smoking or dipping. Just like a Meth addict. You see, tobacco users are hard core drug addicts. Slaves to their drug. At some point users realize they are a slave to tobacco and want to stop. But can't. Then they see their dipping buddy die a very slow painful death from oral or stomach cancer. And they want to stop. But can't. All this site does is get addicts together to help each other stop using. There are no "false facts" and nobody is "scaring" anyone.
Please get off your uninformed pompous pedistal and go back to play school.
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Also, if you haven't checked this website out, I recommend doing so..
*trash taken out by loot*
Your ill intentions here are obvious. Choose the wording of your next post well because it will likely be your last.
I don't mean to cause ill intentions. Like I said, tobacco in any form is not good for you, but scaring people into quitting something they enjoy and providing false facts to try to make people do so isn't cool.
Yep...that's your last. Go play somewhere else bro.
What a fuckin knob. We are not trying to make anyone quit, they came here looking for help with it. And we are not trying to scare anyone, they were already scared.
Nothing worse than an over opinionated 23 yr old.
From the CDC page on tobacco: (http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/health_effects/tobacco_related_mortality/)
•Smokeless tobacco is a known cause of human cancer.5 In addition, the nicotine in smokeless tobacco may increase the risk for sudden death from a condition where the heart does not beat properly (ventricular arrhythmias) and, as a result, the heart pumps little or no blood to the body's organs.5
5.World Health Organization. Smokeless Tobacco and Some Tobacco-Specific N-Nitrosamines (PDF–3.18 MB). International Agency for Research on Cancer Monographs on the Evaluation of Carcinogenic Risks to Humans Vol. 89. Lyon, (France): World Health Organization, International Agency for Research on Cancer, 2007 [accessed 2011 Mar 11].
And here is a nice compilation of abstracts studying smokeless tobacco and cancer: (http://cancercontrol.cancer.gov/tcrb/monographs/2/m2_3.pdf)
Bottom line is smokeless tobacco contains over two dozen know carcinogens. Stick that in your lip for 10-15 hours a day for 1, 5, 10, 40 years and you increase your chance of getting cancer. Sorry if this scares you.
People don't enjoy using tobacco. People enjoy getting their "fix" of nicotine. People enjoy stopping the misery of withdrawal by smoking or dipping. Just like a Meth addict. You see, tobacco users are hard core drug addicts. Slaves to their drug. At some point users realize they are a slave to tobacco and want to stop. But can't. Then they see their dipping buddy die a very slow painful death from oral or stomach cancer. And they want to stop. But can't. All this site does is get addicts together to help each other stop using. There are no "false facts" and nobody is "scaring" anyone.
Please get off your uninformed pompous pedistal and go back to play school.
My first opinion and post on this site other than posting roll. Experience whether bad or good entitles you to be an expert. Popping off with so called facts and stats with no experience makes you stupid. 35 years of Copenhagen controlling me, if it was easy I would have quit way before now.
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New blog post: Guest Chatter - World Bass Fishing Champion Luke Clausen
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/02/gues ... e-clausen/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/02/guest-chatter-world-bass-fishing-champion-luke-clausen/)
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New blog post: Guest Chatter - World Bass Fishing Champion Luke Clausen
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/02/gues ... e-clausen/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/02/guest-chatter-world-bass-fishing-champion-luke-clausen/)
Goo poo poo choos (loot makes loot laugh)
Seriously...awesome work bro. Is Mr. Clausen a recovering addict as well?
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New blog post:Â Guest Chatter - World Bass Fishing Champion Luke Clausen
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/02/gues ... e-clausen/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/02/guest-chatter-world-bass-fishing-champion-luke-clausen/)
Goo poo poo choos (loot makes loot laugh)
Seriously...awesome work bro. Is Mr. Clausen a recovering addict as well?
Yessir... I believe he too is a former addict.
The smart kind.... he's QUIT!
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New blog post: Raging Against Big Tobacco - Targeting Our Children
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/02/ragi ... -children/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/02/raging-against-big-tobacco-targeting-our-children/)
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Just wanted to share a victory with the group,
I spent the better part of my day yesterday at Assembly Hall in Bloomington, IN for College Game Day and then later for the IU Michigan basketball game. Throughout the day, we went down on Kirkwood to the "Deli" for breakfast, Kilroy's, the Upstairs, Upland for dinner and finally back to Assembly Hall for the game. After the game, I think we shut down Nic's.
The best part of the whole day was that I never had to look for a place to spit and secondly.......Ill be honest........I don't think I ever thought about a dip. Crazy I know......but it was one of the best days ever.
That's a big W right there.
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Just wanted to share a victory with the group,
I spent the better part of my day yesterday at Assembly Hall in Bloomington, IN for College Game Day and then later for the IU Michigan basketball game. Throughout the day, we went down on Kirkwood to the "Deli" for breakfast, Kilroy's, the Upstairs, Upland for dinner and finally back to Assembly Hall for the game. After the game, I think we shut down Nic's.
The best part of the whole day was that I never had to look for a place to spit and secondly.......Ill be honest........I don't think I ever thought about a dip. Crazy I know......but it was one of the best days ever.
That's a big W right there.
HUGE!
And DAMN do I miss Bloomington...
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I'm going to label this one as a minor Victory in defeat:
I will say this, I'm new to this group and just joined a few days ago, but its no excuse for my slip up. I'm sorry, you guys have been nothing but supportive since I joined and I let you down.
I got drunk at the bar with the buddies last night and cracked for about ten minutes until the guilt in my mind finally won over. I'm still going to label this as a small victory because for the first time in my days as a chewer I was able to convince myself that i didnt need nicotine with my beer to have a good time. The rest of the night i was able to have fun and didn't think twice about my decision to spit it out.
So here's to another day. My next test will be tonight during the super bowl and im gonna give it my all. The friends are coming over and they all think im bat shit crazy for trying to quit. I even think two of them have a side bet going on about which day they think ill crack.
Wish me luck,
AaronJ
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Did Larry Allen really have a huge cat turd in as he was being honored before the Super Bowl? Classy.
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Did Larry Allen really have a huge cat turd in as he was being honored before the Super Bowl? Classy.
Why yes. Yes he did.
Doosh.
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I'm going to label this one as a minor Victory in defeat:
I will say this, I'm new to this group and just joined a few days ago, but its no excuse for my slip up. I'm sorry, you guys have been nothing but supportive since I joined and I let you down.
I got drunk at the bar with the buddies last night and cracked for about ten minutes until the guilt in my mind finally won over. I'm still going to label this as a small victory because for the first time in my days as a chewer I was able to convince myself that i didnt need nicotine with my beer to have a good time. The rest of the night i was able to have fun and didn't think twice about my decision to spit it out.
So here's to another day. My next test will be tonight during the super bowl and im gonna give it my all. The friends are coming over and they all think im bat shit crazy for trying to quit. I even think two of them have a side bet going on about which day they think ill crack.
Wish me luck,
AaronJ
You caved. That's called a cave, not a victory. Instead of staying quit, you chose to cave. Why did you choose to cave?
Are you posting roll call?
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I'm going to label this one as a minor Victory in defeat:
I will say this, I'm new to this group and just joined a few days ago, but its no excuse for my slip up. I'm sorry, you guys have been nothing but supportive since I joined and I let you down.
I got drunk at the bar with the buddies last night and cracked for about ten minutes until the guilt in my mind finally won over. I'm still going to label this as a small victory because for the first time in my days as a chewer I was able to convince myself that i didnt need nicotine with my beer to have a good time. The rest of the night i was able to have fun and didn't think twice about my decision to spit it out.
So here's to another day. My next test will be tonight during the super bowl and im gonna give it my all. The friends are coming over and they all think im bat shit crazy for trying to quit. I even think two of them have a side bet going on about which day they think ill crack.
Wish me luck,
AaronJ
You caved. That's called a cave, not a victory. Instead of staying quit, you chose to cave. Why did you choose to cave?
Are you posting roll call?
Agree. You cant claim any kind of victory after caving. What the fucks wrong with you? You were drunk when it happened? Shocking.
Start all over.
Post an intro. Read the welcome center. Start posting role. Get numbers of guys in your quit group. Stop drinking. Stop hanging with dudes who are gonna put money on whether you will cave or not. This is not some kind of joke. This is literally life or death.
Most importantly...KEEP THAT SHIT OUT OF YOUR MOUTH.
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I'm going to label this one as a minor Victory in defeat:
I will say this, I'm new to this group and just joined a few days ago, but its no excuse for my slip up. I'm sorry, you guys have been nothing but supportive since I joined and I let you down.
I got drunk at the bar with the buddies last night and cracked for about ten minutes until the guilt in my mind finally won over. I'm still going to label this as a small victory because for the first time in my days as a chewer I was able to convince myself that i didnt need nicotine with my beer to have a good time. The rest of the night i was able to have fun and didn't think twice about my decision to spit it out.
So here's to another day. My next test will be tonight during the super bowl and im gonna give it my all. The friends are coming over and they all think im bat shit crazy for trying to quit. I even think two of them have a side bet going on about which day they think ill crack.
Wish me luck,
AaronJ
You caved. That's called a cave, not a victory. Instead of staying quit, you chose to cave. Why did you choose to cave?
Are you posting roll call?
Agree. You cant claim any kind of victory after caving. What the fucks wrong with you? You were drunk when it happened? Shocking.
Start all over.
Post an intro. Read the welcome center. Start posting role. Get numbers of guys in your quit group. Stop drinking. Stop hanging with dudes who are gonna put money on whether you will cave or not. This is not some kind of joke. This is literally life or death.
Most importantly...KEEP THAT SHIT OUT OF YOUR MOUTH.
I got drunk last night and didn't chew. This is almost day 7 for me so it was pretty weird not doing it. I didn't though and my friends that I drink with support me quitting which helps.
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I'm going to label this one as a minor Victory in defeat:
I will say this, I'm new to this group and just joined a few days ago, but its no excuse for my slip up. I'm sorry, you guys have been nothing but supportive since I joined and I let you down.
I got drunk at the bar with the buddies last night and cracked for about ten minutes until the guilt in my mind finally won over. I'm still going to label this as a small victory because for the first time in my days as a chewer I was able to convince myself that i didnt need nicotine with my beer to have a good time. The rest of the night i was able to have fun and didn't think twice about my decision to spit it out.
So here's to another day. My next test will be tonight during the super bowl and im gonna give it my all. The friends are coming over and they all think im bat shit crazy for trying to quit. I even think two of them have a side bet going on about which day they think ill crack.
Wish me luck,
AaronJ
You caved. That's called a cave, not a victory. Instead of staying quit, you chose to cave. Why did you choose to cave?
Are you posting roll call?
Agree. You cant claim any kind of victory after caving. What the fucks wrong with you? You were drunk when it happened? Shocking.
Start all over.
Post an intro. Read the welcome center. Start posting role. Get numbers of guys in your quit group. Stop drinking. Stop hanging with dudes who are gonna put money on whether you will cave or not. This is not some kind of joke. This is literally life or death.
Most importantly...KEEP THAT SHIT OUT OF YOUR MOUTH.
I got drunk last night and didn't chew. This is almost day 7 for me so it was pretty weird not doing it. I didn't though and my friends that I drink with support me quitting which helps.
Be careful with alcohol in the early part if your quit. Seen it kill many a quit, even guys past the hof.
Post an intro Schellster...let us get to know you. Let us help you.
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I'm going to label this one as a minor Victory in defeat:
I will say this, I'm new to this group and just joined a few days ago, but its no excuse for my slip up. I'm sorry, you guys have been nothing but supportive since I joined and I let you down.
I got drunk at the bar with the buddies last night and cracked for about ten minutes until the guilt in my mind finally won over. I'm still going to label this as a small victory because for the first time in my days as a chewer I was able to convince myself that i didnt need nicotine with my beer to have a good time. The rest of the night i was able to have fun and didn't think twice about my decision to spit it out.
So here's to another day. My next test will be tonight during the super bowl and im gonna give it my all. The friends are coming over and they all think im bat shit crazy for trying to quit. I even think two of them have a side bet going on about which day they think ill crack.
Wish me luck,
AaronJ
You caved. That's called a cave, not a victory. Instead of staying quit, you chose to cave. Why did you choose to cave?
Are you posting roll call?
Agree. You cant claim any kind of victory after caving. What the fucks wrong with you? You were drunk when it happened? Shocking.
Start all over.
Post an intro. Read the welcome center. Start posting role. Get numbers of guys in your quit group. Stop drinking. Stop hanging with dudes who are gonna put money on whether you will cave or not. This is not some kind of joke. This is literally life or death.
Most importantly...KEEP THAT SHIT OUT OF YOUR MOUTH.
I got drunk last night and didn't chew. This is almost day 7 for me so it was pretty weird not doing it. I didn't though and my friends that I drink with support me quitting which helps.
Be careful with alcohol in the early part if your quit. Seen it kill many a quit, even guys past the hof.
Post an intro Schellster...let us get to know you. Let us help you.
Thanks for the advice and reminding me on the intro! I just posted it. Not much but it's something.
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Just wanted to share a victory with the group,
I spent the better part of my day yesterday at Assembly Hall in Bloomington, IN for College Game Day and then later for the IU Michigan basketball game. Throughout the day, we went down on Kirkwood to the "Deli" for breakfast, Kilroy's, the Upstairs, Upland for dinner and finally back to Assembly Hall for the game. After the game, I think we shut down Nic's.
The best part of the whole day was that I never had to look for a place to spit and secondly.......Ill be honest........I don't think I ever thought about a dip. Crazy I know......but it was one of the best days ever.
That's a big W right there.
HUGE!
And DAMN do I miss Bloomington...
Maybe I should host a "Quitter Gathering" here in Bloomington. What do you think Chewie........would you come hang out?
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Just wanted to share a victory with the group,
I spent the better part of my day yesterday at Assembly Hall in Bloomington, IN for College Game Day and then later for the IU Michigan basketball game. Throughout the day, we went down on Kirkwood to the "Deli" for breakfast, Kilroy's, the Upstairs, Upland for dinner and finally back to Assembly Hall for the game. After the game, I think we shut down Nic's.
The best part of the whole day was that I never had to look for a place to spit and secondly.......Ill be honest........I don't think I ever thought about a dip. Crazy I know......but it was one of the best days ever.
That's a big W right there.
HUGE!
And DAMN do I miss Bloomington...
Maybe I should host a "Quitter Gathering" here in Bloomington. What do you think Chewie........would you come hang out?
With enough notice... oh... hell... YEAH.
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I'm going to label this one as a minor Victory in defeat:
I will say this, I'm new to this group and just joined a few days ago, but its no excuse for my slip up. I'm sorry, you guys have been nothing but supportive since I joined and I let you down.
I got drunk at the bar with the buddies last night and cracked for about ten minutes until the guilt in my mind finally won over. I'm still going to label this as a small victory because for the first time in my days as a chewer I was able to convince myself that i didnt need nicotine with my beer to have a good time. The rest of the night i was able to have fun and didn't think twice about my decision to spit it out.
So here's to another day. My next test will be tonight during the super bowl and im gonna give it my all. The friends are coming over and they all think im bat shit crazy for trying to quit. I even think two of them have a side bet going on about which day they think ill crack.
Wish me luck,
AaronJ
You caved. That's called a cave, not a victory. Instead of staying quit, you chose to cave. Why did you choose to cave?
Are you posting roll call?
Agree. You cant claim any kind of victory after caving. What the fucks wrong with you? You were drunk when it happened? Shocking.
Start all over.
Post an intro. Read the welcome center. Start posting role. Get numbers of guys in your quit group. Stop drinking. Stop hanging with dudes who are gonna put money on whether you will cave or not. This is not some kind of joke. This is literally life or death.
Most importantly...KEEP THAT SHIT OUT OF YOUR MOUTH.
I got drunk last night and didn't chew. This is almost day 7 for me so it was pretty weird not doing it. I didn't though and my friends that I drink with support me quitting which helps.
Be careful with alcohol in the early part if your quit. Seen it kill many a quit, even guys past the hof.
Post an intro Schellster...let us get to know you. Let us help you.
Thanks for the advice and reminding me on the intro! I just posted it. Not much but it's something.
Your Buddies, Are Assholes. Let me quess ones a dentist and the other runs the local funeral home. I also have friends that still chew, each one of them would punch me in the face if I chewed around them. Thats a buddy! Support, Trust, Respect. Those are the definitions I use for buddies. Sorry you caved, did you pussy up and cave again during the bowl game? We don't try, we promise, we struggle and then we do it again. One day at a time. Hopefully you learned the lesson that everyone talks about every friday. We are addicts, booze is bad for addicts, pussy's cave and use excuses. Get back in here start posting roll and prove to all of us that your not a pussy. You get as much of a victory as the niners did last night.
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I'm going to label this one as a minor Victory in defeat:
I will say this, I'm new to this group and just joined a few days ago, but its no excuse for my slip up. I'm sorry, you guys have been nothing but supportive since I joined and I let you down.
I got drunk at the bar with the buddies last night and cracked for about ten minutes until the guilt in my mind finally won over. I'm still going to label this as a small victory because for the first time in my days as a chewer I was able to convince myself that i didnt need nicotine with my beer to have a good time. The rest of the night i was able to have fun and didn't think twice about my decision to spit it out.
So here's to another day. My next test will be tonight during the super bowl and im gonna give it my all. The friends are coming over and they all think im bat shit crazy for trying to quit. I even think two of them have a side bet going on about which day they think ill crack.
Wish me luck,
AaronJ
You caved. That's called a cave, not a victory. Instead of staying quit, you chose to cave. Why did you choose to cave?
Are you posting roll call?
Agree. You cant claim any kind of victory after caving. What the fucks wrong with you? You were drunk when it happened? Shocking.
Start all over.
Post an intro. Read the welcome center. Start posting role. Get numbers of guys in your quit group. Stop drinking. Stop hanging with dudes who are gonna put money on whether you will cave or not. This is not some kind of joke. This is literally life or death.
Most importantly...KEEP THAT SHIT OUT OF YOUR MOUTH.
I got drunk last night and didn't chew. This is almost day 7 for me so it was pretty weird not doing it. I didn't though and my friends that I drink with support me quitting which helps.
Be careful with alcohol in the early part if your quit. Seen it kill many a quit, even guys past the hof.
Post an intro Schellster...let us get to know you. Let us help you.
Thanks for the advice and reminding me on the intro! I just posted it. Not much but it's something.
Your Buddies, Are Assholes. Let me quess ones a dentist and the other runs the local funeral home. I also have friends that still chew, each one of them would punch me in the face if I chewed around them. Thats a buddy! Support, Trust, Respect. Those are the definitions I use for buddies. Sorry you caved, did you pussy up and cave again during the bowl game? We don't try, we promise, we struggle and then we do it again. One day at a time. Hopefully you learned the lesson that everyone talks about every friday. We are addicts, booze is bad for addicts, pussy's cave and use excuses. Get back in here start posting roll and prove to all of us that your not a pussy. You get as much of a victory as the niners did last night.
Worst fuckin post LOOTs seen in months.
Your mind is so fucking twisted its ridiculous...too fuct to unfuck it seems.
When you get serious...and want to put the booze down for a while and concentrate on your recovery...let us know. Until then, quit wasting peoples time on this site.
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I'm going to label this one as a minor Victory in defeat:
I will say this, I'm new to this group and just joined a few days ago, but its no excuse for my slip up. I'm sorry, you guys have been nothing but supportive since I joined and I let you down.
I got drunk at the bar with the buddies last night and cracked for about ten minutes until the guilt in my mind finally won over. I'm still going to label this as a small victory because for the first time in my days as a chewer I was able to convince myself that i didnt need nicotine with my beer to have a good time. The rest of the night i was able to have fun and didn't think twice about my decision to spit it out.
So here's to another day. My next test will be tonight during the super bowl and im gonna give it my all. The friends are coming over and they all think im bat shit crazy for trying to quit. I even think two of them have a side bet going on about which day they think ill crack.
Wish me luck,
AaronJ
You caved. That's called a cave, not a victory. Instead of staying quit, you chose to cave. Why did you choose to cave?
Are you posting roll call?
Agree. You cant claim any kind of victory after caving. What the fucks wrong with you? You were drunk when it happened? Shocking.
Start all over.
Post an intro. Read the welcome center. Start posting role. Get numbers of guys in your quit group. Stop drinking. Stop hanging with dudes who are gonna put money on whether you will cave or not. This is not some kind of joke. This is literally life or death.
Most importantly...KEEP THAT SHIT OUT OF YOUR MOUTH.
I got drunk last night and didn't chew. This is almost day 7 for me so it was pretty weird not doing it. I didn't though and my friends that I drink with support me quitting which helps.
Be careful with alcohol in the early part if your quit. Seen it kill many a quit, even guys past the hof.
Post an intro Schellster...let us get to know you. Let us help you.
Thanks for the advice and reminding me on the intro! I just posted it. Not much but it's something.
Your Buddies, Are Assholes. Let me quess ones a dentist and the other runs the local funeral home. I also have friends that still chew, each one of them would punch me in the face if I chewed around them. Thats a buddy! Support, Trust, Respect. Those are the definitions I use for buddies. Sorry you caved, did you pussy up and cave again during the bowl game? We don't try, we promise, we struggle and then we do it again. One day at a time. Hopefully you learned the lesson that everyone talks about every friday. We are addicts, booze is bad for addicts, pussy's cave and use excuses. Get back in here start posting roll and prove to all of us that your not a pussy. You get as much of a victory as the niners did last night.
Worst fuckin post LOOTs seen in months.
Your mind is so fucking twisted its ridiculous...too fuct to unfuck it seems.
When you get serious...and want to put the booze down for a while and concentrate on your recovery...let us know. Until then, quit wasting peoples time on this site.
A cave by another name is still a cave! :wacko:
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I'm going to label this one as a minor Victory in defeat:
I will say this, I'm new to this group and just joined a few days ago, but its no excuse for my slip up. I'm sorry, you guys have been nothing but supportive since I joined and I let you down.
I got drunk at the bar with the buddies last night and cracked for about ten minutes until the guilt in my mind finally won over. I'm still going to label this as a small victory because for the first time in my days as a chewer I was able to convince myself that i didnt need nicotine with my beer to have a good time. The rest of the night i was able to have fun and didn't think twice about my decision to spit it out.
So here's to another day. My next test will be tonight during the super bowl and im gonna give it my all. The friends are coming over and they all think im bat shit crazy for trying to quit. I even think two of them have a side bet going on about which day they think ill crack.
Wish me luck,
AaronJ
You caved. That's called a cave, not a victory. Instead of staying quit, you chose to cave. Why did you choose to cave?
Are you posting roll call?
Agree. You cant claim any kind of victory after caving. What the fucks wrong with you? You were drunk when it happened? Shocking.
Start all over.
Post an intro. Read the welcome center. Start posting role. Get numbers of guys in your quit group. Stop drinking. Stop hanging with dudes who are gonna put money on whether you will cave or not. This is not some kind of joke. This is literally life or death.
Most importantly...KEEP THAT SHIT OUT OF YOUR MOUTH.
I got drunk last night and didn't chew. This is almost day 7 for me so it was pretty weird not doing it. I didn't though and my friends that I drink with support me quitting which helps.
Be careful with alcohol in the early part if your quit. Seen it kill many a quit, even guys past the hof.
Post an intro Schellster...let us get to know you. Let us help you.
Thanks for the advice and reminding me on the intro! I just posted it. Not much but it's something.
Your Buddies, Are Assholes. Let me quess ones a dentist and the other runs the local funeral home. I also have friends that still chew, each one of them would punch me in the face if I chewed around them. Thats a buddy! Support, Trust, Respect. Those are the definitions I use for buddies. Sorry you caved, did you pussy up and cave again during the bowl game? We don't try, we promise, we struggle and then we do it again. One day at a time. Hopefully you learned the lesson that everyone talks about every friday. We are addicts, booze is bad for addicts, pussy's cave and use excuses. Get back in here start posting roll and prove to all of us that your not a pussy. You get as much of a victory as the niners did last night.
Worst fuckin post LOOTs seen in months.
Your mind is so fucking twisted its ridiculous...too fuct to unfuck it seems.
When you get serious...and want to put the booze down for a while and concentrate on your recovery...let us know. Until then, quit wasting peoples time on this site.
A cave by another name is still a cave! :wacko:
:huh: Now that is some serious addict babble going on there. No, caving is defeat. Period. Quitting is winning. Period. I'm glad you feel you have more insight about your quit Aaron, but I think you now get we don't try to put lipstick on the pig here....
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I'm going to label this one as a minor Victory in defeat:
I will say this, I'm new to this group and just joined a few days ago, but its no excuse for my slip up. I'm sorry, you guys have been nothing but supportive since I joined and I let you down.
I got drunk at the bar with the buddies last night and cracked for about ten minutes until the guilt in my mind finally won over. I'm still going to label this as a small victory because for the first time in my days as a chewer I was able to convince myself that i didnt need nicotine with my beer to have a good time. The rest of the night i was able to have fun and didn't think twice about my decision to spit it out.
So here's to another day. My next test will be tonight during the super bowl and im gonna give it my all. The friends are coming over and they all think im bat shit crazy for trying to quit. I even think two of them have a side bet going on about which day they think ill crack.
Wish me luck,
AaronJ
You caved. That's called a cave, not a victory. Instead of staying quit, you chose to cave. Why did you choose to cave?
Are you posting roll call?
Agree. You cant claim any kind of victory after caving. What the fucks wrong with you? You were drunk when it happened? Shocking.
Start all over.
Post an intro. Read the welcome center. Start posting role. Get numbers of guys in your quit group. Stop drinking. Stop hanging with dudes who are gonna put money on whether you will cave or not. This is not some kind of joke. This is literally life or death.
Most importantly...KEEP THAT SHIT OUT OF YOUR MOUTH.
I got drunk last night and didn't chew. This is almost day 7 for me so it was pretty weird not doing it. I didn't though and my friends that I drink with support me quitting which helps.
Be careful with alcohol in the early part if your quit. Seen it kill many a quit, even guys past the hof.
Post an intro Schellster...let us get to know you. Let us help you.
Thanks for the advice and reminding me on the intro! I just posted it. Not much but it's something.
Your Buddies, Are Assholes. Let me quess ones a dentist and the other runs the local funeral home. I also have friends that still chew, each one of them would punch me in the face if I chewed around them. Thats a buddy! Support, Trust, Respect. Those are the definitions I use for buddies. Sorry you caved, did you pussy up and cave again during the bowl game? We don't try, we promise, we struggle and then we do it again. One day at a time. Hopefully you learned the lesson that everyone talks about every friday. We are addicts, booze is bad for addicts, pussy's cave and use excuses. Get back in here start posting roll and prove to all of us that your not a pussy. You get as much of a victory as the niners did last night.
Worst fuckin post LOOTs seen in months.
Your mind is so fucking twisted its ridiculous...too fuct to unfuck it seems.
When you get serious...and want to put the booze down for a while and concentrate on your recovery...let us know. Until then, quit wasting peoples time on this site.
A cave by another name is still a cave! :wacko:
:huh: Now that is some serious addict babble going on there. No, caving is defeat. Period. Quitting is winning. Period. I'm glad you feel you have more insight about your quit Aaron, but I think you now get we don't try to put lipstick on the pig here....
No activity in 3 days.
LOOT is waiting waiting with great anticipation to hear what victory you claim with your latest cave.
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Hi all. It's been 5 days since my last chew, and things are going well... for the most part.
My question is this, when some of you quit, did you experience a numbness in your lip and/or mouth? I can't decide if it's numbness I feel for if it's swollen. I'm expecting some physical changes now that I'm not pumping that area of my mouth with a stimulant every day, but I'd like to hear what some other guys experienced when they gave it up.
Thanks, Charlie
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Hi all. It's been 5 days since my last chew, and things are going well... for the most part.
My question is this, when some of you quit, did you experience a numbness in your lip and/or mouth? I can't decide if it's numbness I feel for if it's swollen. I'm expecting some physical changes now that I'm not pumping that area of my mouth with a stimulant every day, but I'd like to hear what some other guys experienced when they gave it up.
Thanks, Charlie
Damn...seems like LOOT's whole body was numb for a couple weeks. It's totally normal bro. Others have reported similar things.
Congrats on making it thru your first weekend nic free...and welcome to the site.
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Hi all. It's been 5 days since my last chew, and things are going well... for the most part.
My question is this, when some of you quit, did you experience a numbness in your lip and/or mouth? I can't decide if it's numbness I feel for if it's swollen. I'm expecting some physical changes now that I'm not pumping that area of my mouth with a stimulant every day, but I'd like to hear what some other guys experienced when they gave it up.
Thanks, Charlie
Damn...seems like LOOT's whole body was numb for a couple weeks. It's totally normal bro. Others have reported similar things.
Congrats on making it thru your first weekend nic free...and welcome to the site.
THANK YOU for the response. I've been agitating over that. It's crazy how your mind toys with you with this kind of stuff to the point of lost sleep. I was scared to even ask. Once you quit, your thoughts get a little obsessive, and pretty soon every zit, ingrown hair or hiccup is a death sentence.
So glad I found this site.
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Hi all. It's been 5 days since my last chew, and things are going well... for the most part.
My question is this, when some of you quit, did you experience a numbness in your lip and/or mouth? I can't decide if it's numbness I feel for if it's swollen. I'm expecting some physical changes now that I'm not pumping that area of my mouth with a stimulant every day, but I'd like to hear what some other guys experienced when they gave it up.
Thanks, Charlie
Damn...seems like LOOT's whole body was numb for a couple weeks. It's totally normal bro. Others have reported similar things.
Congrats on making it thru your first weekend nic free...and welcome to the site.
THANK YOU for the response. I've been agitating over that. It's crazy how your mind toys with you with this kind of stuff to the point of lost sleep. I was scared to even ask. Once you quit, your thoughts get a little obsessive, and pretty soon every zit, ingrown hair or hiccup is a death sentence.
So glad I found this site.
Pull up a chair and get comfy bro.
It's gonna suck for a while, but it'll get better.
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Hi all. It's been 5 days since my last chew, and things are going well... for the most part.
My question is this, when some of you quit, did you experience a numbness in your lip and/or mouth? I can't decide if it's numbness I feel for if it's swollen. I'm expecting some physical changes now that I'm not pumping that area of my mouth with a stimulant every day, but I'd like to hear what some other guys experienced when they gave it up.
Thanks, Charlie
Damn...seems like LOOT's whole body was numb for a couple weeks. It's totally normal bro. Others have reported similar things.
Congrats on making it thru your first weekend nic free...and welcome to the site.
THANK YOU for the response. I've been agitating over that. It's crazy how your mind toys with you with this kind of stuff to the point of lost sleep. I was scared to even ask. Once you quit, your thoughts get a little obsessive, and pretty soon every zit, ingrown hair or hiccup is a death sentence.
So glad I found this site.
Pull up a chair and get comfy bro.
It's gonna suck for a while, but it'll get better.
You are so not alone.
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Hi all. It's been 5 days since my last chew, and things are going well... for the most part.
My question is this, when some of you quit, did you experience a numbness in your lip and/or mouth? I can't decide if it's numbness I feel for if it's swollen. I'm expecting some physical changes now that I'm not pumping that area of my mouth with a stimulant every day, but I'd like to hear what some other guys experienced when they gave it up.
Thanks, Charlie
Damn...seems like LOOT's whole body was numb for a couple weeks. It's totally normal bro. Others have reported similar things.
Congrats on making it thru your first weekend nic free...and welcome to the site.
THANK YOU for the response. I've been agitating over that. It's crazy how your mind toys with you with this kind of stuff to the point of lost sleep. I was scared to even ask. Once you quit, your thoughts get a little obsessive, and pretty soon every zit, ingrown hair or hiccup is a death sentence.
So glad I found this site.
Pull up a chair and get comfy bro.
It's gonna suck for a while, but it'll get better.
You are so not alone.
I thought I went diabetic when I quit. I even bought a glucometer and was testing my own blood and eating like a diabetic. No idea why and my sugar level were spot on no matter what I ate. So stupid....
As if you can just "catch" diabetes and like I really knew how to eat properly. LMFAO. What a fucking moron.
Point is quitting nic can really mess with your head. Take comfort in knowing your not alone and what you're feeling is totally "normal". Stick with the program. Things will get better.
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250 days quit. Not bad for a pussy like me. But...like everything in life, always someone with more and someone with less. Was reflecting on how bad the early days were for me and how I, thanks to the help of those on this site, was able to dig myself out. That's when I kind of compared my quit to tending to a garden.
When we start out we have this a FUCKED UP plot of rock hard dirt full of shit. Mine had weeds 15 feet tall, roots 3 feet in diameter, tree stumps, old buried tires, car frames, rocks, boulders and was just a total mess.
I wanted to clean it up and turn it into something beautiful, but I had no tools. All I had was my hands, and every time I looked at that fucked up garden I wanted nothing to do with it. In fact at one point I ran, I left KTC all together. That's how bad my plot was, or more like how big a pussy I was.
Luckily Wedge reached out to me, even after I left the reservation, and offered me up one of those mini spade shovels, and I came back. My garden was still fucked up but I got down on my knees and just started digging with that little shovel.
It still sucked as every time I looked at the garden I thought, no fucking way will I ever be able to fix this bitch up. But...eventually total strangers like WT, Skoal Monster, Ready, and countless others offered me up some other tools.
Eventually I had a rake, a hoe (not that kind but I do like them), an actual shovel, an axe, a pick, etc...and I continued to churn that garden up.
Still though, as grateful as I was for the new tools I acquired from these strange people I was seeing little progress in my garden, even though it was there.
Every time I looked at it the weeds still seemed 5 feet high, the stumps weren't coming out, the roots were still too thick, and the mother fucking tires and the rest of the rocks, boulders, and car frames were just to heavy. I was pissed! No way I could turn this shit around. But at the advice of the guys who gave me the tools, I just kept digging.
Then some weird shit started happening. I actually saw some progress in my garden. The weeds were a lot shorter, I cut through a couple roots, I pulled a few tires and boulders out. The real heavy stuff was still there but holy shit, I thought I had an actual chance to turn this bitch into something beautiful. So I just kept churning the dirt.
I kept active on the site and acquired some new tools. Even bought some MYSELF. Got the $$$ form my CONFIDENCE Bank.
Next thing I knew, I was BULL DOZING that mother fucking plot, like a fucking BOSS. I had my arm dangling out the window of that 5 ton dozer, and was PLOWING all that shit out of my plot. Tires were flying everywhere, stumps were getting pushed around like twigs, car frames were getting flipped repeatedly and those rocks and boulders were getting crushed into dust!!! I was spittin sun flower seeds out window and wasn't wearing a safety hat either. I was loving it!!! I was FINALLY fucking shit up. It WAS all worth the wait!!!
Once all that shit was cleared out and my plot was freshly churned fertile soil, I jumped out of my dozer...took a good look around, deeply inhaled the fresh air and thought to myself..."Time to plant some beautiful ass shit"
So I did. I started dropping serious quit seeds that would take strong ass roots and grow like jacks fucking beanstalk.
They didn't just grow on their own. Oh no. I still had to water them daily. Some of the weeds came back and I had to pull them again. I found a few more stumps buried beneath the surface. Even had to borrow some tools from the KTC store again to get some of the stubborn buggers out. But I maintained it.
Today as I look at my garden, it is plush and beautiful...to me. Like I said previously, there is always gonna be someone with a more beautiful garden and someone with a garden more fucked up than mine was in the beginning.
Right now though, I am really digging my garden and the maintenance required to maintain it is getting less and less. Even though I know the work will never go away totally, weeds may pop up from time to time, I can live with it because I take pride in maintaining my quit garden and have done much heavier work before.
I also am starting to take pride in helping others try and flip their garden and eventually make it a thing of beauty. I try to lend out my tools as much as possible, and I think others with well maintained gardens should do the same.
While I say it's a "garden", this really is a life or death matter. If Wedge hadn't given me that little shovel at the begging who knows, I could literally be Dead. I keep that shovel buffed to a high polish and display it proudly on my mantle.
Tend your garden, boys and girls.
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250 days quit. Not bad for a pussy like me. But...like everything in life, always someone with more and someone with less. Was reflecting on how bad the early days were for me and how I, thanks to the help of those on this site, was able to dig myself out. That's when I kind of compared my quit to tending to a garden.
When we start out we have this a FUCKED UP plot of rock hard dirt full of shit. Mine had weeds 15 feet tall, roots 3 feet in diameter, tree stumps, old buried tires, car frames, rocks, boulders and was just a total mess.
I wanted to clean it up and turn it into something beautiful, but I had no tools. All I had was my hands, and every time I looked at that fucked up garden I wanted nothing to do with it. In fact at one point I ran, I left KTC all together. That's how bad my plot was, or more like how big a pussy I was.
Luckily Wedge reached out to me, even after I left the reservation, and offered me up one of those mini spade shovels, and I came back. My garden was still fucked up but I got down on my knees and just started digging with that little shovel.
It still sucked as every time I looked at the garden I thought, no fucking way will I ever be able to fix this bitch up. But...eventually total strangers like WT, Skoal Monster, Ready, and countless others offered me up some other tools.
Eventually I had a rake, a hoe (not that kind but I do like them), an actual shovel, an axe, a pick, etc...and I continued to churn that garden up.
Still though, as grateful as I was for the new tools I acquired from these strange people I was seeing little progress in my garden, even though it was there.
Every time I looked at it the weeds still seemed 5 feet high, the stumps weren't coming out, the roots were still too thick, and the mother fucking tires and the rest of the rocks, boulders, and car frames were just to heavy. I was pissed! No way I could turn this shit around. But at the advice of the guys who gave me the tools, I just kept digging.
Then some weird shit started happening. I actually saw some progress in my garden. The weeds were a lot shorter, I cut through a couple roots, I pulled a few tires and boulders out. The real heavy stuff was still there but holy shit, I thought I had an actual chance to turn this bitch into something beautiful. So I just kept churning the dirt.
I kept active on the site and acquired some new tools. Even bought some MYSELF. Got the $$$ form my CONFIDENCE Bank.
Next thing I knew, I was BULL DOZING that mother fucking plot, like a fucking BOSS. I had my arm dangling out the window of that 5 ton dozer, and was PLOWING all that shit out of my plot. Tires were flying everywhere, stumps were getting pushed around like twigs, car frames were getting flipped repeatedly and those rocks and boulders were getting crushed into dust!!! I was spittin sun flower seeds out window and wasn't wearing a safety hat either. I was loving it!!! I was FINALLY fucking shit up. It WAS all worth the wait!!!
Once all that shit was cleared out and my plot was freshly churned fertile soil, I jumped out of my dozer...took a good look around, deeply inhaled the fresh air and thought to myself..."Time to plant some beautiful ass shit"
So I did. I started dropping serious quit seeds that would take strong ass roots and grow like jacks fucking beanstalk.
They didn't just grow on their own. Oh no. I still had to water them daily. Some of the weeds came back and I had to pull them again. I found a few more stumps buried beneath the surface. Even had to borrow some tools from the KTC store again to get some of the stubborn buggers out. But I maintained it.
Today as I look at my garden, it is plush and beautiful...to me. Like I said previously, there is always gonna be someone with a more beautiful garden and someone with a garden more fucked up than mine was in the beginning.
Right now though, I am really digging my garden and the maintenance required to maintain it is getting less and less. Even though I know the work will never go away totally, weeds may pop up from time to time, I can live with it because I take pride in maintaining my quit garden and have done much heavier work before.
I also am starting to take pride in helping others try and flip their garden and eventually make it a thing of beauty. I try to lend out my tools as much as possible, and I think others with well maintained gardens should do the same.
While I say it's a "garden", this really is a life or death matter. If Wedge hadn't given me that little shovel at the begging who knows, I could literally be Dead. I keep that shovel buffed to a high polish and display it proudly on my mantle.
Tend your garden, boys and girls.
Oh hells yeah.
Thas some goo stuff there men...if you are lurking, thinking about quitting, if that shit don't get you in the mood for some clean...sumpin wrong widja.
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250 days quit. Not bad for a pussy like me. But...like everything in life, always someone with more and someone with less. Was reflecting on how bad the early days were for me and how I, thanks to the help of those on this site, was able to dig myself out. That's when I kind of compared my quit to tending to a garden.
When we start out we have this a FUCKED UP plot of rock hard dirt full of shit. Mine had weeds 15 feet tall, roots 3 feet in diameter, tree stumps, old buried tires, car frames, rocks, boulders and was just a total mess.
I wanted to clean it up and turn it into something beautiful, but I had no tools. All I had was my hands, and every time I looked at that fucked up garden I wanted nothing to do with it. In fact at one point I ran, I left KTC all together. That's how bad my plot was, or more like how big a pussy I was.
Luckily Wedge reached out to me, even after I left the reservation, and offered me up one of those mini spade shovels, and I came back. My garden was still fucked up but I got down on my knees and just started digging with that little shovel.
It still sucked as every time I looked at the garden I thought, no fucking way will I ever be able to fix this bitch up. But...eventually total strangers like WT, Skoal Monster, Ready, and countless others offered me up some other tools.
Eventually I had a rake, a hoe (not that kind but I do like them), an actual shovel, an axe, a pick, etc...and I continued to churn that garden up.
Still though, as grateful as I was for the new tools I acquired from these strange people I was seeing little progress in my garden, even though it was there.
Every time I looked at it the weeds still seemed 5 feet high, the stumps weren't coming out, the roots were still too thick, and the mother fucking tires and the rest of the rocks, boulders, and car frames were just to heavy. I was pissed! No way I could turn this shit around. But at the advice of the guys who gave me the tools, I just kept digging.
Then some weird shit started happening. I actually saw some progress in my garden. The weeds were a lot shorter, I cut through a couple roots, I pulled a few tires and boulders out. The real heavy stuff was still there but holy shit, I thought I had an actual chance to turn this bitch into something beautiful. So I just kept churning the dirt.
I kept active on the site and acquired some new tools. Even bought some MYSELF. Got the $$$ form my CONFIDENCE Bank.
Next thing I knew, I was BULL DOZING that mother fucking plot, like a fucking BOSS. I had my arm dangling out the window of that 5 ton dozer, and was PLOWING all that shit out of my plot. Tires were flying everywhere, stumps were getting pushed around like twigs, car frames were getting flipped repeatedly and those rocks and boulders were getting crushed into dust!!! I was spittin sun flower seeds out window and wasn't wearing a safety hat either. I was loving it!!! I was FINALLY fucking shit up. It WAS all worth the wait!!!
Once all that shit was cleared out and my plot was freshly churned fertile soil, I jumped out of my dozer...took a good look around, deeply inhaled the fresh air and thought to myself..."Time to plant some beautiful ass shit"
So I did. I started dropping serious quit seeds that would take strong ass roots and grow like jacks fucking beanstalk.
They didn't just grow on their own. Oh no. I still had to water them daily. Some of the weeds came back and I had to pull them again. I found a few more stumps buried beneath the surface. Even had to borrow some tools from the KTC store again to get some of the stubborn buggers out. But I maintained it.
Today as I look at my garden, it is plush and beautiful...to me. Like I said previously, there is always gonna be someone with a more beautiful garden and someone with a garden more fucked up than mine was in the beginning.
Right now though, I am really digging my garden and the maintenance required to maintain it is getting less and less. Even though I know the work will never go away totally, weeds may pop up from time to time, I can live with it because I take pride in maintaining my quit garden and have done much heavier work before.
I also am starting to take pride in helping others try and flip their garden and eventually make it a thing of beauty. I try to lend out my tools as much as possible, and I think others with well maintained gardens should do the same.
While I say it's a "garden", this really is a life or death matter. If Wedge hadn't given me that little shovel at the begging who knows, I could literally be Dead. I keep that shovel buffed to a high polish and display it proudly on my mantle.
Tend your garden, boys and girls.
Oh hells yeah.
Thas some goo stuff there men...if you are lurking, thinking about quitting, if that shit don't get you in the mood for some clean...sumpin wrong widja.
i really really needed to hear that today. thank you.
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So I just got out of Navy bootcamp Jan 25th and haven't dipped since November 27th. I just can't get over these cravings. Its been over 2 months and it feels like my first day quitting. I want to stay off the dip but I see all these people around me dipping and dip is so easily accessed on base. I feel like I would be happier if I had a dip but would regret the decision immediately if I took a dip. Does it ever get better?
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So I just got out of Navy bootcamp Jan 25th and haven't dipped since November 27th. I just can't get over these cravings. Its been over 2 months and it feels like my first day quitting. I want to stay off the dip but I see all these people around me dipping and dip is so easily accessed on base. I feel like I would be happier if I had a dip but would regret the decision immediately if I took a dip. Does it ever get better?
It gets much better. Join us and post roll call.
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So I just got out of Navy bootcamp Jan 25th and haven't dipped since November 27th. I just can't get over these cravings. Its been over 2 months and it feels like my first day quitting. I want to stay off the dip but I see all these people around me dipping and dip is so easily accessed on base. I feel like I would be happier if I had a dip but would regret the decision immediately if I took a dip. Does it ever get better?
100% guarantee its get better. I was where you are now. I called it "no man's land". You THINK you will be "happy" again if you got back to the can. But you FEAR you will feel even worse if you go back. Its a shitty spot to be in. I was there for awhile. Pay attention to your fear over what your addicted brain is telling you.
Dip makes nothing better. It doesn't fill any voids, it creates them. Stick with the program. It feels unreal to get your freedom back. Its not always easy but its definately worth it. Continue to GRIND!!! Brighter days are ahead. I promise.
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Anyone else watching Shark Tank? The product being pitched is "grinds" a pouch filled with coffee grounds for use to help quit tobacco. Interesting.
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Anyone else watching Shark Tank? The product being pitched is "grinds" a pouch filled with coffee grounds for use to help quit tobacco. Interesting.
I've tried those early on. They gave me a caffeine headache like a mofo.
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Anyone else watching Shark Tank? The product being pitched is "grinds" a pouch filled with coffee grounds for use to help quit tobacco. Interesting.
I've tried those early on. They gave me a caffeine headache like a mofo.
I put coffee beans in and crack em like sunflower seeds. Love the flavor. Not so juicy. My car rides home.
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Anyone else watching Shark Tank? The product being pitched is "grinds" a pouch filled with coffee grounds for use to help quit tobacco. Interesting.
I've tried those early on. They gave me a caffeine headache like a mofo.
I put coffee beans in and crack em like sunflower seeds. Love the flavor. Not so juicy. My car rides home.
Grinds is great!
http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/12/grin ... es-review/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/12/grinds-coffee-pouches-review/)
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Any of you quitter in the Southeast US or anyone else who might be interested/ Go to the Quitter get together forum and check out the new Tennessee/Southeast US topic. If you are interested in getting a meet and greet scheduled, then sign the list. Then we will see about getting a deal together.
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Tonight's the night!
World Bass Fishing Champion Luke Clausen joins us in KTC Live Chat at 9:00!!!
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/02/gues ... e-clausen/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/02/guest-chatter-world-bass-fishing-champion-luke-clausen/)
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World Champion Luke Clausen is live in KillTheCan.org chat right now!!! http://chat.killthecan.org/ (http://chat.killthecan.org/)
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New blog post: Did You Quit Dipping In 2012? A Ton Of Others Did
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/02/did- ... thers-did/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/02/did-you-quit-dipping-in-2012-a-ton-of-others-did/)
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Such a void in my life tonight,
anyone else miss football?
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Such a void in my life tonight,
anyone else miss football?
Yessir but pitchers and catchers (http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/red-sox/post/_/id/23746/pitchers-and-catchers-report-on-feb-10) have already reported. Spring is in the air, sort of.
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Such a void in my life tonight,
anyone else miss football?
Yessir but pitchers and catchers (http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/red-sox/post/_/id/23746/pitchers-and-catchers-report-on-feb-10) have already reported. Spring is in the air, sort of.
I'm a pitcher, Gmann is the catcher
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Such a void in my life tonight,
anyone else miss football?
Yessir but pitchers and catchers (http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/red-sox/post/_/id/23746/pitchers-and-catchers-report-on-feb-10) have already reported. Spring is in the air, sort of.
I'm a pitcher, Gmann is the catcher
This conversation is not complete without this emoticon 'BanDog'
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Such a void in my life tonight,
anyone else miss football?
Ya I finished my senior year of football this year. Got injured last game so not playing college ball
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New blog post: JakeÂ’s Mint Chew Receives USDA Organic Certification
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/02/jake ... ification/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/02/jakes-mint-chew-receives-usda-organic-certification/)
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Just a little fact I would like to share.
If you haven't quit tobacco and want a side effect of quitting:
No matter what I paid or owe this year in taxes, I didn't' pay $642.33 of taxes for nicotine.
Yeah 351 days with a can a day habit = $642.33 in taxes.
With all the talk of taxes going up, here is one way I cut my own taxes and it is totally safe and legal to quit and lower your taxes.
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New to this whole site, thought i would check it out though. I have tried to quit before, but I felt I needed a new edge this go around. I haven't chewed for 6 days now, and I want to kick it for good. Any advice? I have been chewing seeds to help.
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New to this whole site, thought i would check it out though. I have tried to quit before, but I felt I needed a new edge this go around. I haven't chewed for 6 days now, and I want to kick it for good. Any advice? I have been chewing seeds to help.
Promise me you will not up today. Keep your promise. Repeat tomorrow.
See the "Welcome Center" above for some great info.
Your group is July 2013. Post there. Make friends. Create accountability. Provide support.
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New to this whole site, thought i would check it out though. I have tried to quit before, but I felt I needed a new edge this go around. I haven't chewed for 6 days now, and I want to kick it for good. Any advice? I have been chewing seeds to help.
Promise me you will not up today. Keep your promise. Repeat tomorrow.
See the "Welcome Center" above for some great info.
Your group is July 2013. Post there. Make friends. Create accountability. Provide support.
Listen to the bad ass quitters on here. This program works and if your heart is truly in it to quit, then you will succeed! Just post roll each day, grab some phone numbers to talk to a fellow quitters during the hard times and always have integrity... most of all, never cave in and always post roll, because if you don't these guys will be all over you like white on rice on a paper plate!
I am pledging yet again to my new found Brothers to stay quit!
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Hey nice job on the new KTC Banner. Just one question. Where is the lepricon? ...lol
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Hey nice job on the new KTC Banner. Just one question. Where is the lepricon? ...lol
This may not be the last banner we see this month... just saying ;)
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Hey nice job on the new KTC Banner. Just one question. Where is the lepricon? ...lol
This may not be the last banner we see this month... just saying ;)
Please no, I don't think we could stand loot in a small green outfit......
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Hey nice job on the new KTC Banner. Just one question. Where is the lepricon? ...lol
This may not be the last banner we see this month... just saying ;)
Please no, I don't think we could stand loot in a small green outfit......
LMAO!!! Hell I would Love to see that....
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Hey nice job on the new KTC Banner. Just one question. Where is the lepricon? ...lol
This may not be the last banner we see this month... just saying ;)
Please no, I don't think we could stand loot in a small green outfit......
LMAO!!! Hell I would Love to see that....
Oh come on wasn't Loot the cave man enough! Love it Matt!
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Hey nice job on the new KTC Banner. Just one question. Where is the lepricon? ...lol
This may not be the last banner we see this month... just saying ;)
Please no, I don't think we could stand loot in a small green outfit......
LMAO!!! Hell I would Love to see that....
Oh come on wasn't Loot the cave man enough! Love it Matt!
easy bitches
easy
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Hey nice job on the new KTC Banner. Just one question. Where is the lepricon? ...lol
This may not be the last banner we see this month... just saying ;)
Please no, I don't think we could stand loot in a small green outfit......
LMAO!!! Hell I would Love to see that....
Oh come on wasn't Loot the cave man enough! Love it Matt!
easy bitches
easy
Hell that could be a fundraiser. How much will you pay to see LOOT dressed as a lepricon like Mark May (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NerLndLlFzA) 'crackup'
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Hey nice job on the new KTC Banner. Just one question. Where is the lepricon? ...lol
This may not be the last banner we see this month... just saying ;)
Please no, I don't think we could stand loot in a small green outfit......
LMAO!!! Hell I would Love to see that....
Oh come on wasn't Loot the cave man enough! Love it Matt!
easy bitches
easy
Hell that could be a fundraiser. How much will you pay to see LOOT dressed as a lepricon like Mark May (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NerLndLlFzA) 'crackup'
Please take my money. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xp7h6JmnIQ)
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Hey nice job on the new KTC Banner. Just one question. Where is the lepricon? ...lol
This may not be the last banner we see this month... just saying ;)
Please no, I don't think we could stand loot in a small green outfit......
LMAO!!! Hell I would Love to see that....
Oh come on wasn't Loot the cave man enough! Love it Matt!
easy bitches
easy
Hell that could be a fundraiser. How much will you pay to see LOOT dressed as a lepricon like Mark May (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NerLndLlFzA) 'crackup'
Please take my money. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xp7h6JmnIQ)
Whazza matta boys, don't ya wanna see ole Irish looT? (http://s1294.beta.photobucket.com/user/ms4874/media/IrishLoot_zps49dc6518.jpg.html) 'ash'
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Regarding Tobacco Marketing
Check this out. Maybe someday people will "get" it!
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/ ... AY20130306 (http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/06/us-cancer-global-idUSBRE9251AY20130306)
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Hey nice job on the new KTC Banner. Just one question. Where is the lepricon? ...lol
This may not be the last banner we see this month... just saying ;)
Please no, I don't think we could stand loot in a small green outfit......
LMAO!!! Hell I would Love to see that....
Oh come on wasn't Loot the cave man enough! Love it Matt!
easy bitches
easy
Hell that could be a fundraiser. How much will you pay to see LOOT dressed as a lepricon like Mark May (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NerLndLlFzA) 'crackup'
Please take my money. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xp7h6JmnIQ)
Whazza matta boys, don't ya wanna see ole Irish looT? (http://s1294.beta.photobucket.com/user/ms4874/media/IrishLoot_zps49dc6518.jpg.html) 'ash'
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Even though I hate Russell Brand, this article (http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2013/03/the-only-way-to-help-addicts-is-to-treat-them-as-sick-not-bad/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-only-way-to-help-addicts-is-to-treat-them-as-sick-not-bad) on addiction is very telling. One day at a time, pick up the phone if you need help.
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New blog post: Quitting Dip, Alcohol Early In Your Quit Hooch Snuff
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/03/quit ... och-snuff/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/03/quitting-dip-alcohol-hooch-snuff/)
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howdy gents, it's time to quit again; for good! i have been dipping forever and have quit a few times, once for years and started back. i have tried a few times recently and only to fail rather quickly.
i need your help!!! and have a few questions. basically, if i am awake and not eating, i have a dip in. will nicotine gum or lozenges help or is that just substituting the delivery of the drug and will make the craving last longer? what do y'all recommend for the oral fixation? i've seen hooch, etc. but wanna ask what is preferred.
grizzly mint is getting ready to lose a long time customer!!
thanks,
mick
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howdy gents, it's time to quit again; for good! i have been dipping forever and have quit a few times, once for years and started back. i have tried a few times recently and only to fail rather quickly.
i need your help!!! and have a few questions. basically, if i am awake and not eating, i have a dip in. will nicotine gum or lozenges help or is that just substituting the delivery of the drug and will make the craving last longer? what do y'all recommend for the oral fixation? i've seen hooch, etc. but wanna ask what is preferred.
grizzly mint is getting ready to lose a long time customer!!
thanks,
mick
any form of nicotene is a bad idea as it is that which keeps your body and mind t continue to want to feed it that poison. Here we suscribe to the cold turkey method. So nicotene in any form is discouraged as once you stop there is the initial approx 72 hour time period to get nicotene out of your system, then its the days, weeks of re-programming yourself to function in its absence (that all we ask here is that you do it one day at a time and it will add up).
so make that decision, just quit today and come join us.
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I haven't posted in here for a LONG time. For whatever reason when i finished my lunch today i got hit with one of the biggest urges to throw in a dip that i have felt in a long time. The fogginess has been coming back lately as well. With that said, next week will be my 2 year anniversary of being dip free, and I can honestly say that quitting was one of the best decisions i have ever made, and KTC provided a lot of support in the early going. For those of you considering quitting just stop being a b*tch and DO IT. It really is up to you and you only. Thats all. Good luck to everyone
cjs238
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howdy gents, it's time to quit again; for good! i have been dipping forever and have quit a few times, once for years and started back. i have tried a few times recently and only to fail rather quickly.
i need your help!!! and have a few questions. basically, if i am awake and not eating, i have a dip in. will nicotine gum or lozenges help or is that just substituting the delivery of the drug and will make the craving last longer? what do y'all recommend for the oral fixation? i've seen hooch, etc. but wanna ask what is preferred.
grizzly mint is getting ready to lose a long time customer!!
thanks,
mick
any form of nicotene is a bad idea as it is that which keeps your body and mind t continue to want to feed it that poison. Here we suscribe to the cold turkey method. So nicotene in any form is discouraged as once you stop there is the initial approx 72 hour time period to get nicotene out of your system, then its the days, weeks of re-programming yourself to function in its absence (that all we ask here is that you do it one day at a time and it will add up).
so make that decision, just quit today and come join us.
I second what Derek says... gum, patch, lozenges, etc. just prolong your addiction as they continue to introduce what you're REALLY addicted to... nicotine.
Ditch them all, and within 72 hours you'll be completely nicotine free. NOTE this does not mean you'll be "cured" in 72 hours... far from it... just nicotine free.
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/11/its- ... ld-turkey/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/11/its-almost-turkey-time-cold-turkey/)
As for something to deal with the oral fixation. You're in luck... there are some OUTSTANDING mint substitutes out there. Which one you'll like best is anyone's guess but my personal favorite mint subs are as follows.- Hooch Mint - http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/10/hooch-snuff-review/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/10/hooch-snuff-review/)
- Nip Energy Dip (different, but GREAT flavor) http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/05/nip- ... ip-review/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2011/05/nip-the-grip-energy-dip-review/)
Mint Snuff - http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/03/mint ... int-snuff/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/03/mint-snuff-review-oregon-mint-snuff/)
Bacc-Off - http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/05/bacc-off-review/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/05/bacc-off-review/)
If you're not quite sure which one you'd like I'd suggest trying them all as it really does boil down to personal preference. There are coupons available for some of them here: http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp)
But regardless of which you choose, I'd STRONGLY advise to make sure you're nic free. You'll be able to truly start the healing process that much quicker.
Welcome!
chewie
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Ready to quit!!! need help and support.. Also just advice and someone help me out with the features of this site. thanks you and god bless
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Guys,
I am looking for/trying to find/start a College Quitters sub. I could've sworn we had one here (looking to reach out to fellow Greeks specifically) but my searches are futile.
Any help?
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Where the heck do I find the "CONTRACT"? I need it and think it needs to be shared with a bunch of the whining newbies.
Thanks
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Where the heck do I find the "CONTRACT"? I need it and think it needs to be shared with a bunch of the whining newbies.
Thanks
here is one
http://www.killthecan.org/robs/vow.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/robs/vow.asp)
I am looking for the contract
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Where the heck do I find the "CONTRACT"? I need it and think it needs to be shared with a bunch of the whining newbies.
Thanks
Took a minute http://www.killthecan.org/facts/contract.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/facts/contract.asp)
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I'm going to start on 3/21/13 get off this crappy stuff!
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I'm going to start on 3/21/13 get off this crappy stuff!
No man. You start now. Flush your shit and hit Roll Call.
No quitting later shit...later never comes.
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I'm going to start on 3/21/13 get off this crappy stuff!
No man. You start now. Flush your shit and hit Roll Call.
No quitting later shit...later never comes.
How do you "hit Roll call"?
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I'm going to start on 3/21/13 get off this crappy stuff!
No man. You start now. Flush your shit and hit Roll Call.
No quitting later shit...later never comes.
How do you "hit Roll call"?
Check out the Welcome Center link. It'll 'splain er'thang.
When it come to Roll Call...the Why is far, far more important than the How.
Shout if you need help.
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I'm going to start on 3/21/13 get off this crappy stuff!
No man. You start now. Flush your shit and hit Roll Call.
No quitting later shit...later never comes.
How do you "hit Roll call"?
Check out the Welcome Center link. It'll 'splain er'thang.
When it come to Roll Call...the Why is far, far more important than the How.
Shout if you need help.
dig deep.
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I'm going to start on 3/21/13 get off this crappy stuff!
No man. You start now. Flush your shit and hit Roll Call.
No quitting later shit...later never comes.
How do you "hit Roll call"?
Check out the Welcome Center link. It'll 'splain er'thang.
When it come to Roll Call...the Why is far, far more important than the How.
Shout if you need help.
dig deep.
*LOOT looks at calendar*
Holy shit! It's the 21st.
Quit day.
Reality smack you in the face this morning BK? Cause you ain't on Roll Call.
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I'm going to start on 3/21/13 get off this crappy stuff!
No man. You start now. Flush your shit and hit Roll Call.
No quitting later shit...later never comes.
How do you "hit Roll call"?
Check out the Welcome Center link. It'll 'splain er'thang.
When it come to Roll Call...the Why is far, far more important than the How.
Shout if you need help.
dig deep.
*LOOT looks at calendar*
Holy shit! It's the 21st.
Quit day.
Reality smack you in the face this morning BK? Cause you ain't on Roll Call.
"I'm going to start . . . ." Sure you will, pal! Sure you will . . . .
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I'm going to start on 3/21/13 get off this crappy stuff!
No man. You start now. Flush your shit and hit Roll Call.
No quitting later shit...later never comes.
How do you "hit Roll call"?
Check out the Welcome Center link. It'll 'splain er'thang.
When it come to Roll Call...the Why is far, far more important than the How.
Shout if you need help.
dig deep.
*LOOT looks at calendar*
Holy shit! It's the 21st.
Quit day.
Reality smack you in the face this morning BK? Cause you ain't on Roll Call.
"I'm going to start . . . ." Sure you will, pal! Sure you will . . . .
just got off work not had a dip yet
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I'm going to start on 3/21/13 get off this crappy stuff!
No man. You start now. Flush your shit and hit Roll Call.
No quitting later shit...later never comes.
How do you "hit Roll call"?
Check out the Welcome Center link. It'll 'splain er'thang.
When it come to Roll Call...the Why is far, far more important than the How.
Shout if you need help.
dig deep.
*LOOT looks at calendar*
Holy shit! It's the 21st.
Quit day.
Reality smack you in the face this morning BK? Cause you ain't on Roll Call.
"I'm going to start . . . ." Sure you will, pal! Sure you will . . . .
just got off work not had a dip yet
Awesome. Get on Roll Call.
LOOT'll be clean with you today.
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I'm going to start on 3/21/13 get off this crappy stuff!
No man. You start now. Flush your shit and hit Roll Call.
No quitting later shit...later never comes.
How do you "hit Roll call"?
Check out the Welcome Center link. It'll 'splain er'thang.
When it come to Roll Call...the Why is far, far more important than the How.
Shout if you need help.
dig deep.
*LOOT looks at calendar*
Holy shit! It's the 21st.
Quit day.
Reality smack you in the face this morning BK? Cause you ain't on Roll Call.
"I'm going to start . . . ." Sure you will, pal! Sure you will . . . .
just got off work not had a dip yet
Awesome. Get on Roll Call.
LOOT'll be clean with you today.
trying to roll call
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I'm going to start on 3/21/13 get off this crappy stuff!
No man. You start now. Flush your shit and hit Roll Call.
No quitting later shit...later never comes.
How do you "hit Roll call"?
Check out the Welcome Center link. It'll 'splain er'thang.
When it come to Roll Call...the Why is far, far more important than the How.
Shout if you need help.
dig deep.
*LOOT looks at calendar*
Holy shit! It's the 21st.
Quit day.
Reality smack you in the face this morning BK? Cause you ain't on Roll Call.
"I'm going to start . . . ." Sure you will, pal! Sure you will . . . .
just got off work not had a dip yet
Awesome. Get on Roll Call.
LOOT'll be clean with you today.
just did. Day one...
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I'm going to start on 3/21/13 get off this crappy stuff!
No man. You start now. Flush your shit and hit Roll Call.
No quitting later shit...later never comes.
How do you "hit Roll call"?
Check out the Welcome Center link. It'll 'splain er'thang.
When it come to Roll Call...the Why is far, far more important than the How.
Shout if you need help.
dig deep.
*LOOT looks at calendar*
Holy shit! It's the 21st.
Quit day.
Reality smack you in the face this morning BK? Cause you ain't on Roll Call.
"I'm going to start . . . ." Sure you will, pal! Sure you will . . . .
just got off work not had a dip yet
Awesome. Get on Roll Call.
LOOT'll be clean with you today.
just did. Day one...
Great job. Now head on over to the "introduction" page and start up a new post there. Tell us about yourself and use it as your journal page to ask questions, post rages, whatever you want. Everyone gets 1 introduction page so save the link and use it often.
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I'm going to start on 3/21/13 get off this crappy stuff!
No man. You start now. Flush your shit and hit Roll Call.
No quitting later shit...later never comes.
How do you "hit Roll call"?
Check out the Welcome Center link. It'll 'splain er'thang.
When it come to Roll Call...the Why is far, far more important than the How.
Shout if you need help.
dig deep.
*LOOT looks at calendar*
Holy shit! It's the 21st.
Quit day.
Reality smack you in the face this morning BK? Cause you ain't on Roll Call.
"I'm going to start . . . ." Sure you will, pal! Sure you will . . . .
just got off work not had a dip yet
Awesome. Get on Roll Call.
LOOT'll be clean with you today.
just did. Day one...
Great job. Now head on over to the "introduction" page and start up a new post there. Tell us about yourself and use it as your journal page to ask questions, post rages, whatever you want. Everyone gets 1 introduction page so save the link and use it often.
Awesome! Stick with it! I'm clean with you today.
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I'm going to start on 3/21/13 get off this crappy stuff!
No man. You start now. Flush your shit and hit Roll Call.
No quitting later shit...later never comes.
How do you "hit Roll call"?
Check out the Welcome Center link. It'll 'splain er'thang.
When it come to Roll Call...the Why is far, far more important than the How.
Shout if you need help.
dig deep.
*LOOT looks at calendar*
Holy shit! It's the 21st.
Quit day.
Reality smack you in the face this morning BK? Cause you ain't on Roll Call.
"I'm going to start . . . ." Sure you will, pal! Sure you will . . . .
just got off work not had a dip yet
Awesome. Get on Roll Call.
LOOT'll be clean with you today.
just did. Day one...
Great job. Now head on over to the "introduction" page and start up a new post there. Tell us about yourself and use it as your journal page to ask questions, post rages, whatever you want. Everyone gets 1 introduction page so save the link and use it often.
Awesome! Stick with it! I'm clean with you today.
Applauding Bkquit today!
It's gonna suck for a while, but your life is worth it!
I'll quit with you.
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I'm going to start on 3/21/13 get off this crappy stuff!
No man. You start now. Flush your shit and hit Roll Call.
No quitting later shit...later never comes.
How do you "hit Roll call"?
Check out the Welcome Center link. It'll 'splain er'thang.
When it come to Roll Call...the Why is far, far more important than the How.
Shout if you need help.
dig deep.
*LOOT looks at calendar*
Holy shit! It's the 21st.
Quit day.
Reality smack you in the face this morning BK? Cause you ain't on Roll Call.
"I'm going to start . . . ." Sure you will, pal! Sure you will . . . .
just got off work not had a dip yet
Awesome. Get on Roll Call.
LOOT'll be clean with you today.
just did. Day one...
Great job. Now head on over to the "introduction" page and start up a new post there. Tell us about yourself and use it as your journal page to ask questions, post rages, whatever you want. Everyone gets 1 introduction page so save the link and use it often.
Awesome! Stick with it! I'm clean with you today.
Applauding Bkquit today!
It's gonna suck for a while, but your life is worth it!
I'll quit with you.
No sign of BKquit in 4 days . . . . :angry:
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wow... grow a pair and just do it you drama queen 'Finger'
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And as of right now I am passed the 26 hour mark of no nicotine for the first time in 15 years
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And as of right now I am passed the 26 hour mark of no nicotine for the first time in 15 years
Congrats! Go to the Welcome Center and read why and how we post roll. It is the pink link up at the top of the page (it says Welcome Center) :)
You will need to head over to July and post roll.
Give a shout if you need anything, you will find all the support you need if you ask for it. We quit one day at a time around here, you can do that right?
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And as of right now I am passed the 26 hour mark of no nicotine for the first time in 15 years
NIce job, Post roll today, and give us a proper introduction, in the introduction area.
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I'm the girlfriend of a quitter. I'm extremely supportive and so very very proud of him. What can I do to help? And I know it's all terrible, but when is the worst time? When do I need to saddle up, put on my armor and prepare for battle?!
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I'm the girlfriend of a quitter. I'm extremely supportive and so very very proud of him. What can I do to help? And I know it's all terrible, but when is the worst time? When do I need to saddle up, put on my armor and prepare for battle?!
This battle will be all out for about 6 to 8 weeks starting at day 1. First comes the physical withdrawl. This will last about 3 or 4 days. Just don't take anything he says personal. The psychological part will be different for everyone. I was grumpy and snappy for about a month all the time and then it started to fade away. I'm 123 days in and I still have bad days. The thing with addicts is there will always be bad days. As time passes they will be fewer and farther between and they will less and less severe.
to answer your question, you need to armor up and saddle up for the ride right now. As time passes you will be able to put it away for periods of time but always be ready to break it out. The nic bitch can be very sneaky. She will lurk and wait her chance and she will pounce when you and your boy are at your weakest. Be ready!
Mike
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I'm the girlfriend of a quitter. I'm extremely supportive and so very very proud of him. What can I do to help? And I know it's all terrible, but when is the worst time? When do I need to saddle up, put on my armor and prepare for battle?!
This battle will be all out for about 6 to 8 weeks starting at day 1. First comes the physical withdrawl. This will last about 3 or 4 days. Just don't take anything he says personal. The psychological part will be different for everyone. I was grumpy and snappy for about a month all the time and then it started to fade away. I'm 123 days in and I still have bad days. The thing with addicts is there will always be bad days. As time passes they will be fewer and farther between and they will less and less severe.
to answer your question, you need to armor up and saddle up for the ride right now. As time passes you will be able to put it away for periods of time but always be ready to break it out. The nic bitch can be very sneaky. She will lurk and wait her chance and she will pounce when you and your boy are at your weakest. Be ready!
Mike
Here is a good article (http://www.killthecan.org/community/spouse.asp) on spousal support for your reading.
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There are some really good Hall of Fame speeches recently posted. Check them out!
'clap'
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I guarantee the author of this article is a smoker that refuses to acknowledge his addiction:
Hard Times Means Relighting Tossed Cigarettes (http://t.money.msn.com/now/hard-times-mean-relighting-tossed-cigarettes)
While the study aimed to determine how to medicate people with these behaviors when they seek treatment and how to counsel those who want to break such habits, it's also a warning that such small cutbacks in tobacco use aren't necessarily better for those making them.
Duh. Cutting back just puts your body in a prolonged withdrawal.
So what makes people do this? The study indicates that this behavior is more prevalent among smokers who started at a younger age, have fewer cigarettes per day, smoke menthol cigarettes and wake up at night to smoke. More important, having a high school degree or less and being unemployed, sick or disabled are the ties that bind folks scouring ashtrays for butts.
'bang head'
Apparently, only a "lower class of addicts" will do anything to get their fix.
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New blog post: Jake’s Mint Chew Kola Review
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/03/jake ... la-review/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/03/jakes-mint-chew-kola-review/)
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What's up ya'll. I'm a female dipper, on the path to quitting. Used KTC for my order with Hooch and so now it's the waiting game. Just wanted to introduce myself and see what this is all about because I'm probably gonna need it here soon enough.
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What's up ya'll. I'm a female dipper, on the path to quitting. Used KTC for my order with Hooch and so now it's the waiting game. Just wanted to introduce myself and see what this is all about because I'm probably gonna need it here soon enough.
Welcome GrizzGirl... you're in the right place! Let us know how we can help you along the way!
chewie
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The new header is BAD ASS !! Just sayin....
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Not sure where venting is appropriate but the live chat is empty so I'm going to post this right here...
Day 3 has always been the hardest day for me, my mind and body go into open rebellion inundating me with thoughts of that bastard little can and the devilish contents within.
So far today... cut off on way to work, spent an hour at the vets just to check-in one of the cats bc apparently no one does paperwork correctly, then realized I had forgotten to go to the bank before I drove to the credit union where my car loan is at... And after all that, still quit today...
Screw you world, today I beat you back with the help of a fine group of people!!!
Thank you KTC members... Open ears are the greatest coping mechanism.
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Not sure where venting is appropriate but the live chat is empty so I'm going to post this right here...
Day 3 has always been the hardest day for me, my mind and body go into open rebellion inundating me with thoughts of that bastard little can and the devilish contents within.
So far today... cut off on way to work, spent an hour at the vets just to check-in one of the cats bc apparently no one does paperwork correctly, then realized I had forgotten to go to the bank before I drove to the credit union where my car loan is at... And after all that, still quit today...
Screw you world, today I beat you back with the help of a fine group of people!!!
Thank you KTC members... Open ears are the greatest coping mechanism.
You are taking control and the nicBitch is trying to take you back. Who's going to win? You are!
After today most, if not all, of the poison will be out of your body. That's a victory in itself. Every time you resist a crave your quit will get that much stronger.
But the real challenge is to become the real you. The nicBitch has had control so long that I bet you don't even remember life without dip. The real you is waiting to emerge. It's going to be tough but, believe me, the freedom is worth it.
In the meantime, read all you can on this site. Get some exercise. Get some numbers to call. Use some fake. Get into CHAT. There will be someone else in CHAT most of the time. Do whatever you need to take your mind off the crap.
And give nic the finger! Don't let it kill you.
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Not sure where venting is appropriate but the live chat is empty so I'm going to post this right here...
Day 3 has always been the hardest day for me, my mind and body go into open rebellion inundating me with thoughts of that bastard little can and the devilish contents within.Â
So far today... cut off on way to work, spent an hour at the vets just to check-in one of the cats bc apparently no one does paperwork correctly, then realized I had forgotten to go to the bank before I drove to the credit union where my car loan is at... And after all that, still quit today...
Screw you world, today I beat you back with the help of a fine group of people!!!
Thank you KTC members... Open ears are the greatest coping mechanism.
You are taking control and the nicBitch is trying to take you back. Who's going to win? You are!
After today most, if not all, of the poison will be out of your body. That's a victory in itself. Every time you resist a crave your quit will get that much stronger.
But the real challenge is to become the real you. The nicBitch has had control so long that I bet you don't even remember life without dip. The real you is waiting to emerge. It's going to be tough but, believe me, the freedom is worth it.
In the meantime, read all you can on this site. Get some exercise. Get some numbers to call. Use some fake. Get into CHAT. There will be someone else in CHAT most of the time. Do whatever you need to take your mind off the crap.
And give nic the finger! Don't let it kill you.
DBF
Anywhere on this site is a perfect place to vent.
You will never have to go through day 3 again if you follow the plan laid out here....post early, every day, keep your word for 24hrs, repeat.
Remember how you feel now, remember it well.
Never again for any reason.
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Not sure where venting is appropriate but the live chat is empty so I'm going to post this right here...
Day 3 has always been the hardest day for me, my mind and body go into open rebellion inundating me with thoughts of that bastard little can and the devilish contents within.Â
So far today... cut off on way to work, spent an hour at the vets just to check-in one of the cats bc apparently no one does paperwork correctly, then realized I had forgotten to go to the bank before I drove to the credit union where my car loan is at... And after all that, still quit today...
Screw you world, today I beat you back with the help of a fine group of people!!!
Thank you KTC members... Open ears are the greatest coping mechanism.
You are taking control and the nicBitch is trying to take you back. Who's going to win? You are!
After today most, if not all, of the poison will be out of your body. That's a victory in itself. Every time you resist a crave your quit will get that much stronger.
But the real challenge is to become the real you. The nicBitch has had control so long that I bet you don't even remember life without dip. The real you is waiting to emerge. It's going to be tough but, believe me, the freedom is worth it.
In the meantime, read all you can on this site. Get some exercise. Get some numbers to call. Use some fake. Get into CHAT. There will be someone else in CHAT most of the time. Do whatever you need to take your mind off the crap.
And give nic the finger! Don't let it kill you.
DBF
Anywhere on this site is a perfect place to vent.
You will never have to go through day 3 again if you follow the plan laid out here....post early, every day, keep your word for 24hrs, repeat.
Remember how you feel now, remember it well.
Never again for any reason.
Not sure where venting is appropriate but the live chat is empty so I'm going to post this right here...
Day 3 has always been the hardest day for me, my mind and body go into open rebellion inundating me with thoughts of that bastard little can and the devilish contents within.Â
So far today... cut off on way to work, spent an hour at the vets just to check-in one of the cats bc apparently no one does paperwork correctly, then realized I had forgotten to go to the bank before I drove to the credit union where my car loan is at... And after all that, still quit today...
Screw you world, today I beat you back with the help of a fine group of people!!!
Thank you KTC members... Open ears are the greatest coping mechanism.
You are taking control and the nicBitch is trying to take you back. Who's going to win? You are!
After today most, if not all, of the poison will be out of your body. That's a victory in itself. Every time you resist a crave your quit will get that much stronger.
But the real challenge is to become the real you. The nicBitch has had control so long that I bet you don't even remember life without dip. The real you is waiting to emerge. It's going to be tough but, believe me, the freedom is worth it.
In the meantime, read all you can on this site. Get some exercise. Get some numbers to call. Use some fake. Get into CHAT. There will be someone else in CHAT most of the time. Do whatever you need to take your mind off the crap.
And give nic the finger! Don't let it kill you.
DBF
Anywhere on this site is a perfect place to vent.
You will never have to go through day 3 again if you follow the plan laid out here....post early, every day, keep your word for 24hrs, repeat.
Remember how you feel now, remember it well.
Never again for any reason.
Sean day 6.
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Sean day 6.
Sean, go to "quit groups" and make that post in July 2013 pre HOF quit group, 2013 groups are below the other groups, just scroll down and look for July (the month you'll hit 100 days quit). Send a pm or post questions here if you have anything you want to ask.
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How fucking long till I wake up and the first thought to go through my head is NOT about a dip? This is fucking insane!!!! it's not a crave really, it's just that my eyes open the very first thought is about dip and then in an instant it is gone and we are off on another day of quit.
And what about this oral fixation thing? The habit of having something in my lip is harder to break than the actual addiction to nicotine. Or maybe they are one and the same? fuck, I don't know. I wonder if i'm hurting my quit by using tea dregs as a substitute for dip. My mind is going 100 different directions today. I think I read something about there being a major funk around this point in my quit. I don't really feel like i'm in a funk. I'm just aggravated that I can't get by this oral fixation thing. it's pissing me off.
Mike
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How fucking long till I wake up and the first thought to go through my head is NOT about a dip? This is fucking insane!!!! it's not a crave really, it's just that my eyes open the very first thought is about dip and then in an instant it is gone and we are off on another day of quit.
And what about this oral fixation thing? The habit of having something in my lip is harder to break than the actual addiction to nicotine. Or maybe they are one and the same? fuck, I don't know. I wonder if i'm hurting my quit by using tea dregs as a substitute for dip. My mind is going 100 different directions today. I think I read something about there being a major funk around this point in my quit. I don't really feel like i'm in a funk. I'm just aggravated that I can't get by this oral fixation thing. it's pissing me off.
Mike
You conditioned yourself for how many years? We are addicts Mike so give your body and mind some time to re-train itself.
KTC is split on whether "fake" helps or hinders-
My .02 is use whatever it takes to keep the nic out of your pie hole. The oral fixation will soon fade.
Stay active and engaged on this site by paying it forward and backward.
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How fucking long till I wake up and the first thought to go through my head is NOT about a dip? This is fucking insane!!!! it's not a crave really, it's just that my eyes open the very first thought is about dip and then in an instant it is gone and we are off on another day of quit.
And what about this oral fixation thing? The habit of having something in my lip is harder to break than the actual addiction to nicotine. Or maybe they are one and the same? fuck, I don't know. I wonder if i'm hurting my quit by using tea dregs as a substitute for dip. My mind is going 100 different directions today. I think I read something about there being a major funk around this point in my quit. I don't really feel like i'm in a funk. I'm just aggravated that I can't get by this oral fixation thing. it's pissing me off.
Mike
You conditioned yourself for how many years? We are addicts Mike so give your body and mind some time to re-train itself.
KTC is split on whether "fake" helps or hinders-
My .02 is use whatever it takes to keep the nic out of your pie hole. The oral fixation will soon fade.
Stay active and engaged on this site by paying it forward and backward.
I agree with the birdman Mike! :wub: My low point of my whole quit was somewhere around day 85ish right up through 125ish, felt like shit didn't know why I even cared but then again I knew I didn't want to chew.
At that point I was still chewing gum frequently and poking beef jerky between my cheek and gums a few times a week. Over time it slowly fades, sometimes I will go a couple weeks and not even have a piece of gum or jerky.
Now sitting at 459 days I wake up and don't think about dip but unfortunantly usually say "man I gotta fucking post roll with 26 fucking different groups!" I've gotten a little burnt out and have found that cutting back a little can help.
Don't get me wrong I post in my own group Every Damn Day! But if it is a busy day I may not post with your group (and many others) but I am still there at the end of the phone if needed, and I am still active with my sexting buddies 'archer' and I still support you all.
I think you need a success story Mike, you need to be in chat and get someone to flush their poison and quit for you, then you follow them through to the HOF. I had that happen, had a guy say he couldn't throw it out because he just bought it, said he would quit when it was gone. Ended up flushing it a short while later that night and now is closing in on a year quit and he posts every damn day in multiple groups. He put me into a very nice place to be in my quit! shocker
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New blog post: An Open Letter To Nick Swisher From A Fan - Quit Dipping
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/04/an-o ... t-dipping/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/04/an-open-letter-to-nick-swisher-from-a-fan-quit-dipping/)
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New blog post: An Open Letter To Nick Swisher From A Fan - Quit Dipping
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/04/an-o ... t-dipping/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/04/an-open-letter-to-nick-swisher-from-a-fan-quit-dipping/)
Greg,
You are AWESOME!
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Truckerick hits Day 2000 today! Go over to Jan 08 and pat him on the back or whatever . . . .
'clap'
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New blog post:Â An Open Letter To Nick Swisher From A Fan - Quit Dipping
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/04/an-o ... t-dipping/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/04/an-open-letter-to-nick-swisher-from-a-fan-quit-dipping/)
Greg,
You are AWESOME!
Thank you sir. I was proud of that one.
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New blog post:Â An Open Letter To Nick Swisher From A Fan - Quit Dipping
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/04/an-o ... t-dipping/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/04/an-open-letter-to-nick-swisher-from-a-fan-quit-dipping/)
Greg,
You are AWESOME!
Thank you sir. I was proud of that one.
I am proud of you for taking the high road instead of the nagging emotional route that turns potential quitters off. Nice letter, hope you get a positive response.
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New blog post:Â An Open Letter To Nick Swisher From A Fan - Quit Dipping
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/04/an-o ... t-dipping/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/04/an-open-letter-to-nick-swisher-from-a-fan-quit-dipping/)
Greg,
You are AWESOME!
Thank you sir. I was proud of that one.
I am proud of you for taking the high road instead of the nagging emotional route that turns potential quitters off. Nice letter, hope you get a positive response.
Yes I know how tempting it was to say "Nick you look like a douche bag with that crap in your lip". Well done in showing restraint!
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KTC: Zeroing in on 15,000 members!!
'oh yeah'
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KTC:Â Zeroing in on 15,000 members!!
'oh yeah'
And 2 million (yes, million) posts!
'clap'
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Hey Guys so I just finished my hopefully last dip ever. I have read a few posts talking about how they have battled dipping for quite a few years and I as well have been doing that. For the last 10 years I have been a prisoner of nicotine and I hate that. I hate that I have invested so much money into something thats only purpose is to destroy me. I ask that yall help me stay on track of quittiing for the last and final time. As I am sitting her thinking about quitting my body is in crazy mode all it wants is another dip and I am thinking about how easy it would be for me to go down to the gas station and pick up a new can. I really feel like doing this 'bang head' and giving in but I want a better life for myself one that doesnt depend on tobacco. Thanks guys for listening and hopefully supporting me.
Andy
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Hey Guys so I just finished my hopefully last dip ever. I have read a few posts talking about how they have battled dipping for quite a few years and I as well have been doing that. For the last 10 years I have been a prisoner of nicotine and I hate that. I hate that I have invested so much money into something thats only purpose is to destroy me. I ask that yall help me stay on track of quittiing for the last and final time. As I am sitting her thinking about quitting my body is in crazy mode all it wants is another dip and I am thinking about how easy it would be for me to go down to the gas station and pick up a new can. I really feel like doing this 'bang head' and giving in but I want a better life for myself one that doesnt depend on tobacco. Thanks guys for listening and hopefully supporting me.
Andy
Hey Andy,
Welcome to the best resource you could find for quitting dip. I would suggest you start at the WELCOME CENTER (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13) for what you need to know to get started. You would post roll - which we do first thing every day - in the July 2013 Group. Post up a Day 1, and then let's roll.
We support each other, hold each other accountable, and have a brotherhood like no other site on the web.
~Quit on.
Frazz
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'oh yeah'
Check out the April 2013 roll . . . . Sixteen new Hall of Famers in one day!
'oh yeah'
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New blog post: KillTheCan.org Hits 15,000 Members!
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/04/kill ... 0-members/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/04/killthecan-org-hits-15000-members/)
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A can of Wintergreen Skoal a day for 29 years. I just had my 44th birthday and it's time to quit. I am overweight and really just dont feel good physically anymore. I cant keep up with my 11 year old son. I cant get through a full day of work. I cant even walk up a flight of steps without being our of breath. I am tired of it. And I believe it all starts with this little green can. My name is Chris and I am looking forward to the help and support I hope to receive on this board.
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A can of Wintergreen Skoal a day for 29 years. I just had my 44th birthday and it's time to quit. I am overweight and really just dont feel good physically anymore. I cant keep up with my 11 year old son. I cant get through a full day of work. I cant even walk up a flight of steps without being our of breath. I am tired of it. And I believe it all starts with this little green can. My name is Chris and I am looking forward to the help and support I hope to receive on this board.
Welcome Chris! You've come to the right place. Click on the burnt siena colored welcome center tab below the banner and hold onto your sox.
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A can of Wintergreen Skoal a day for 29 years. I just had my 44th birthday and it's time to quit. I am overweight and really just dont feel good physically anymore. I cant keep up with my 11 year old son. I cant get through a full day of work. I cant even walk up a flight of steps without being our of breath. I am tired of it. And I believe it all starts with this little green can. My name is Chris and I am looking forward to the help and support I hope to receive on this board.
Welcome Chris! You've come to the right place. Click on the burnt siena colored welcome center tab below the banner and hold onto your sox.
Loot. Ohhhhh loot.
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A can of Wintergreen Skoal a day for 29 years. I just had my 44th birthday and it's time to quit. I am overweight and really just dont feel good physically anymore. I cant keep up with my 11 year old son. I cant get through a full day of work. I cant even walk up a flight of steps without being our of breath. I am tired of it. And I believe it all starts with this little green can. My name is Chris and I am looking forward to the help and support I hope to receive on this board.
Welcome Chris! You've come to the right place. Click on the burnt siena colored welcome center tab below the banner and hold onto your sox.
Loot. Ohhhhh loot.
Burnt sienna? Seriously bro...that is uber gay.
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A can of Wintergreen Skoal a day for 29 years. I just had my 44th birthday and it's time to quit. I am overweight and really just dont feel good physically anymore. I cant keep up with my 11 year old son. I cant get through a full day of work. I cant even walk up a flight of steps without being our of breath. I am tired of it. And I believe it all starts with this little green can. My name is Chris and I am looking forward to the help and support I hope to receive on this board.
Welcome Chris! You've come to the right place. Click on the burnt siena colored welcome center tab below the banner and hold onto your sox.
Loot. Ohhhhh loot.
Burnt sienna? Seriously bro...that is uber gay.
:P :P :P
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A can of Wintergreen Skoal a day for 29 years. I just had my 44th birthday and it's time to quit. I am overweight and really just dont feel good physically anymore. I cant keep up with my 11 year old son. I cant get through a full day of work. I cant even walk up a flight of steps without being our of breath. I am tired of it. And I believe it all starts with this little green can. My name is Chris and I am looking forward to the help and support I hope to receive on this board.
Welcome Chris! You've come to the right place. Click on the burnt siena colored welcome center tab below the banner and hold onto your sox.
Loot. Ohhhhh loot.
Burnt sienna? Seriously bro...that is uber gay.
:P :P :P
Welcome skins. Do what CWC said. Read about roll call. Then get on roll. Tonight. It's too important not to take care of this tonight. Yell if any questions.
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I planned a cut back then just decided to quit two weeks ago. So 2 weeks 2 days in im experiencing a real sore throat and fatigue for the past three days. Been going to bed early and iust been draggin behind past two three days. Kind of freaking myself thinking I have throat cancer so went to doctor. Doc just thought it was allergies and sent me on my way. Said to come back if ayptoms persist for 7 days. I think the doc was off a bit. Anyone else experience a real sore tjroat and fatigue. I chewed cope snuff for 14 years. I have dealt with ny quit well tell freaking myaelf out as of recently. Thoughts shared syptoms? I did see this under what to expext but my glands are swollen huge, feeling real tired really eaely then normal.
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I planned a cut back then just decided to quit two weeks ago. So 2 weeks 2 days in im experiencing a real sore throat and fatigue for the past three days. Been going to bed early and iust been draggin behind past two three days. Kind of freaking myself thinking I have throat cancer so went to doctor. Doc just thought it was allergies and sent me on my way. Said to come back if ayptoms persist for 7 days. I think the doc was off a bit. Anyone else experience a real sore tjroat and fatigue. I chewed cope snuff for 14 years. I have dealt with ny quit well tell freaking myaelf out as of recently. Thoughts shared syptoms? I did see this under what to expext but my glands are swollen huge, feeling real tired really eaely then normal.
Why are you here?
Do you want us to tell you everything is going to be okay?
Can't do that.
Do you want to quit, and in the process reduce your risk and improve your quality of life ten fold?
That, we can do.
Balls in your court.
You chose to quit, there is no better support than on this site with these fine members.
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I planned a cut back then just decided to quit two weeks ago. So 2 weeks 2 days in im experiencing a real sore throat and fatigue for the past three days. Been going to bed early and iust been draggin behind past two three days. Kind of freaking myself thinking I have throat cancer so went to doctor. Doc just thought it was allergies and sent me on my way. Said to come back if ayptoms persist for 7 days. I think the doc was off a bit. Anyone else experience a real sore tjroat and fatigue. I chewed cope snuff for 14 years. I have dealt with ny quit well tell freaking myaelf out as of recently. Thoughts shared syptoms? I did see this under what to expext but my glands are swollen huge, feeling real tired really eaely then normal.
Why are you here?
Do you want us to tell you everything is going to be okay?
Can't do that.
Do you want to quit, and in the process reduce your risk and improve your quality of life ten fold?
That, we can do.
Balls in your court.
You chose to quit, there is no better support than on this site with these fine members.
I quit two weeks ago! Was just hoping to relate to someone......
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I planned a cut back then just decided to quit two weeks ago. So 2 weeks 2 days in im experiencing a real sore throat and fatigue for the past three days. Been going to bed early and iust been draggin behind past two three days. Kind of freaking myself thinking I have throat cancer so went to doctor. Doc just thought it was allergies and sent me on my way. Said to come back if ayptoms persist for 7 days. I think the doc was off a bit. Anyone else experience a real sore tjroat and fatigue. I chewed cope snuff for 14 years. I have dealt with ny quit well tell freaking myaelf out as of recently. Thoughts shared syptoms? I did see this under what to expext but my glands are swollen huge, feeling real tired really eaely then normal.
Why are you here?
Do you want us to tell you everything is going to be okay?
Can't do that.
Do you want to quit, and in the process reduce your risk and improve your quality of life ten fold?
That, we can do.
Balls in your court.
You chose to quit, there is no better support than on this site with these fine members.
I quit two weeks ago! Was just hoping to relate to someone......
Have you posted roll?
Do you know what that means?
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Nope what is roll?
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Nope what is roll?
Mr. X, click on the ghey pink "salmon" colored welcome on the upper left side of the page. It explains roll call. Roll call is your promise not to use nicotine in any form for the day. Your quit group is July 2013. We call keeping your promise "integrity". If you have some you can quit with us. And yes, a sore throat is normal. So is being tired. So is being constipated. And angry. I even know a quitter on here who got cancer a month after quitting. It is all "normal". If you want to be free from nicotine almost like a "normal" person then stick around.
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Nope what is roll?
Mr. X, click on the ghey pink "salmon" colored welcome on the upper left side of the page. It explains roll call. Roll call is your promise not to use nicotine in any form for the day. Your quit group is July 2013. We call keeping your promise "integrity". If you have some you can quit with us. And yes, a sore throat is normal. So is being tired. So is being constipated. And angry. I even know a quitter on here who got cancer a month after quitting. It is all "normal". If you want to be free from nicotine almost like a "normal" person then stick around.
Word posted my roll for the day!
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Nope what is roll?
Mr. X, click on the ghey pink "salmon" colored welcome on the upper left side of the page. It explains roll call. Roll call is your promise not to use nicotine in any form for the day. Your quit group is July 2013. We call keeping your promise "integrity". If you have some you can quit with us. And yes, a sore throat is normal. So is being tired. So is being constipated. And angry. I even know a quitter on here who got cancer a month after quitting. It is all "normal". If you want to be free from nicotine almost like a "normal" person then stick around.
Word posted my roll for the day!
Most excellent Sir.
Keep your word.
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This world fucking sucks... who the hell bombs a marathon?
FUCK.
Thoughts and prayers...
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This world fucking sucks... who the hell bombs a marathon?
FUCK.
Thoughts and prayers...
Sad,really sad.
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Hello All! My name is Jake Larson from Waterloo, Iowa and I am currently 48 hours nicotine free. I was referred to the site by a friend of mine that quit last year. I was a tin a day dipper of Copenhagen Long Cut for the last 2 years. I made the decision on Saturday night that was enough was enough and I was done.
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This world fucking sucks... who the hell bombs a marathon?
FUCK.
Thoughts and prayers...
Sad,really sad.
(I took this from someone on facebook who took it from Mr. Rogers. nice to keep in mind)
As we pray for the people of Boston, this quote from Mister Rogers comes to mind:
“When I was a boy and I would see scary things in the news, my mother would say to me, ‘Look for the helpers. You will always find people who are helping.’ To this day, especially in times of ‘disaster,’ I remember my mother’s words, and I am always comforted by realizing that there are still so many helpers – so many caring people in this world.”
(after posting this it hit me that this also is what goes on here each day - the disaster or evil is tobacco and the helpers are the ones here who do so much for all who have found the site since they have arrived. Not to take away from the disaster in Boston but to say thanks Chewie and all the rest of the KTC community who spend time here helping the rest of us.)
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Hello All! My name is Jake Larson from Waterloo, Iowa and I am currently 48 hours nicotine free. I was referred to the site by a friend of mine that quit last year. I was a tin a day dipper of Copenhagen Long Cut for the last 2 years. I made the decision on Saturday night that was enough was enough and I was done.
Welcome Jake, this it a great place to quit. Jump on up to the welcome center and read the whole thing, all the links, then you'll have the basics down. Ask any questions here or in your group. Jump in with both feet and don't look back, you can do this a a ton of us will be with you each day man.
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I don't mean to be insensitive but I've seen many potential quitters make a very similar comment, "I'm a college student and deal with a lot of stress." It's been over 3 decades since my college days and I have had some life experiences that many of you haven't had yet. I just want to say to potential young quitters or lurking dippers that are considering quitting, now is the best time to quit. I remember having similar thoughts, that I have to much stress to quit now, things like: stress of providing for a family, being involved in a family business with 8 separate families with different goals, having a daughter that was in a abusive relationship 2000 miles away and finally last March I was in a situation suffering sever depression even suicidal not a good time to quit, just too much stress to deal with everything without dip! Well there is never an easy time to quit but the best time to quit is always NOW!
I've said to many quitters that I wish I had quit when I was your age. Well I didn't and so that message is for them not me. I quit when I did and have been devoted to my quit everyday and will continue to make it a priority in my daily routine. There is never an easy time to quit. There is never a easier time to quit!
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I don't mean to be insensitive but I've seen many potential quitters make a very similar comment, "I'm a college student and deal with a lot of stress." It's been over 3 decades since my college days and I have had some life experiences that many of you haven't had yet. I just want to say to potential young quitters or lurking dippers that are considering quitting, now is the best time to quit. I remember having similar thoughts, that I have to much stress to quit now, things like: stress of providing for a family, being involved in a family business with 8 separate families with different goals, having a daughter that was in a abusive relationship 2000 miles away and finally last March I was in a situation suffering sever depression even suicidal not a good time to quit, just too much stress to deal with everything without dip! Well there is never an easy time to quit but the best time to quit is always NOW!
I've said to many quitters that I wish I had quit when I was your age. Well I didn't and so that message is for them not me. I quit when I did and have been devoted to my quit everyday and will continue to make it a priority in my daily routine. There is never an easy time to quit. There is never a easier time to quit!
I have 8 years of so called higher education. The stress in school is nothing like having a career and family. It would have been much easier to quit in school. Like WT says, today is the day to quit. Don't put it off another day. Putting it off another day will lead to a year, five years, a decade, etc.
you can only make a decision to quit today and then stick to it.
It ain't easy, but it can be done. And we're here to help.
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I have 8 years of so called higher education.
I didn't know you were from WVa . Thats what they call high school there 'crackup'
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I have 8 years of so called higher education.
I didn't know you were from WVa . Thats what they call high school there 'crackup'
Paging RC.
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I have 8 years of so called higher education.
I didn't know you were from WVa . Thats what they call high school there 'crackup'
'finger point' ...hey...another year and Idda grad jated......but seriously...
'Finger' ....
......................y'all!!!...... :D
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Anyone know if I can do chat with a kindle fire? I'll probably have to get someone to post roll for me tomorrow.
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This world fucking sucks... who the hell bombs a marathon?
FUCK.
Thoughts and prayers...
Sad,really sad.
(I took this from someone on facebook who took it from Mr. Rogers. nice to keep in mind)
As we pray for the people of Boston, this quote from Mister Rogers comes to mind:
“When I was a boy and I would see scary things in the news, my mother would say to me, ‘Look for the helpers. You will always find people who are helping.’ To this day, especially in times of ‘disaster,’ I remember my mother’s words, and I am always comforted by realizing that there are still so many helpers – so many caring people in this world.”
(after posting this it hit me that this also is what goes on here each day - the disaster or evil is tobacco and the helpers are the ones here who do so much for all who have found the site since they have arrived. Not to take away from the disaster in Boston but to say thanks Chewie and all the rest of the KTC community who spend time here helping the rest of us.)
You are one of 'us' Mich. Thank you.
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Anyone know if I can do chat with a kindle fire? I'll probably have to get someone to post roll for me tomorrow.
Nature,
I sent you a private message to answer your question. Look in the upper right corner for your Inbox (1).
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New blog post: Ode To The Quitter
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/04/ode-to-the-quitter/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/04/ode-to-the-quitter/)
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New blog post: Day 66 I'm Still Quit
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/04/day- ... till-quit/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/04/day-66-im-still-quit/)
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Anyone experiencing major lag in the chat?? I've had it on three different computers and the delay is 2-10 seconds when activating the text box on each machine.
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Anyone experiencing major lag in the chat?? I've had it on three different computers and the delay is 2-10 seconds when activating the text box on each machine.
hmm... I've not, but honestly I haven't been in much lately.
I've got an upgrade that I need to do here shortly... it's on my list.
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New blog post: ChewieÂ’s Hall Of Fame Creed
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/04/chew ... ame-creed/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/04/chewies-hall-of-fame-creed/)
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Let me start off by saying, that I will remain nic free today. But I wanted to vent about the day 7 urges I'm having. First off I woke up at 1:16 am. Again. And couldn't fall back asleep. Been at work all day and became more and more irratable as the day goes on and now the smelly nicotine whore is telling me " hell you quit this long, you can quit again if you want. Just have one dip before bed". I'm sure most you fellers been through it. I just wanted to throw it out there.
Fuck Dip
Love Brandon
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Brandon, stay strong!! It does get much better as time goes on. I was one that thought that dipping was as important as breathing. Could not imagine doing anything without it for 30 years. It definitely is better without it. You just have to get there. Keep up the resolve to remain Quit!!!
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Thanks brotha. I have calmed way down since the previous post. It comes and goes. But y'all know how it is
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So i found this site after freaking out thinking i have cancer cause my jaws hurting. After reading some posts in this thread I feel a little better about my usage. Ive been dipping a can a day for the past 4 years, is my jaw hurting off and on a common thing? Also I have 3 white bumps under my bottom row middle teeth. I always assumed they were callouses because they dont hurt. Anyway this scare made me decide to quit.
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So i found this site after freaking out thinking i have cancer cause my jaws hurting. After reading some posts in this thread I feel a little better about my usage. Ive been dipping a can a day for the past 4 years, is my jaw hurting off and on a common thing? Also I have 3 white bumps under my bottom row middle teeth. I always assumed they were callouses because they dont hurt. Anyway this scare made me decide to quit.
Keep reading, Final. There's a lot more on here you need to read. First off, yea, the stuff you talk about has freaked us all out many times. Most of the time it was nothing, but you're not gonna get much medical advice here. If you are anything like I was, your story will go like this:
1. Freak out and decide "this is it! This is cancer!"
2. Cut back or pause dipping for a SHORT time
3. Decide shortly after cutting back that I do not have cancer.
4. Celebrate my clean bill of health by binging on copenhagen.
5. Repeat all the above every 2-6 months.
Quitting for you health is great. fine. whatever motivates you. For me, I relieved the above scenario so many times that I knew that health scares would not get me quit. Realizing that nicotine had me stepping and fetching like some bitch slave got me to quit.
In the meantime, get your mouth checked out. Read everything you can on KTC. Know what it means to Post Roll with us. And then decide to quit for today. Can you quit for one day? Your damn right you can. Check your (1) Inbox.
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Ya I'm pretty busy with work ATM but in a week or so I'm going to get real serious and read up on stuff and figure out a plan to quit for good. My first post really was just me freaking out because I couldn't figure out why my jaw was hurting and was hoping someone with more then 3 years of a can a day habit could let me know if it was common and non related to cancer or any major problem.
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Ya I'm pretty busy with work ATM but in a week or so I'm going to get real serious and read up on stuff and figure out a plan to quit for good. My first post really was just me freaking out because I couldn't figure out why my jaw was hurting and was hoping someone with more then 3 years of a can a day habit could let me know if it was common and non related to cancer or any major problem.
It is common for tobacco to give you cancer and kill you. My buddy with stomach cancer inspired my quit. I'm now free and he is dead. There's a quitter on here who got oral cancer right after quitting. While you are making excuses to prolong your slavery that next dip could be the one that mutates cells and gives you cancer, if you don't already have it. I no longer live with that fear. Good luck with your Russian Roullette. The odds aren't too bad, unless you're the one who gets cancer.
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Ya I'm pretty busy with work ATM but in a week or so I'm going to get real serious and read up on stuff and figure out a plan to quit for good. My first post really was just me freaking out because I couldn't figure out why my jaw was hurting and was hoping someone with more then 3 years of a can a day habit could let me know if it was common and non related to cancer or any major problem.
Again, yea, it's not uncommon for ANYone to have the symptoms you describe (not associated with cancer). When a "normal" person has anything odd going on in there mouth, they just say WTF?, shrug their shoulders and forget about it. Since we know we are tempting the cancer Gods, we freak out over any tiny insignificant abnormality. Go see the Dentist to be sure.
BTW, I'm not a believer in planning a quit weeks out, but I wish you luck anyway. That's not me being negative, that's just me remembering all the times I planned to quit tomorrow. You said in your post you are too busy ATM to quit? I know for a fact you spend a shit load of time supporting your addiction. Drop me a PM if there's anything I can help answer.
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I couldn't afford to go through 72 hours of physical withdraws with my current workload. I want to wait a week or so until I can afford to be out of sorts at work for a while and not get fired. I have never thought about quitting before last night when I made that post.
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I couldn't afford to go through 72 hours of physical withdraws with my current workload. I want to wait a week or so until I can afford to be out of sorts at work for a while and not get fired. I have never thought about quitting before last night when I made that post.
How can you afford (http://www.killthecan.org/pics/)not to?
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I couldn't afford to go through 72 hours of physical withdraws with my current workload. I want to wait a week or so until I can afford to be out of sorts at work for a while and not get fired. I have never thought about quitting before last night when I made that post.
How can you afford (http://www.killthecan.org/pics/)not to?
A week or so? Yup you keep waiting for tomorrow, I will quit for today. I don't think you will get much sympathy from anyone here about your job being too important to quit right now. When you realize that tobacco and nicotine don't do anything for you or your job you will be better off. I told myself I would quit when I got married, first kid, second kid, birthdays, anniversaries, etc. Tomorrow never comes, today is your day. Instead of making excuses of why you cant quit, just do it.
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I couldn't afford to go through 72 hours of physical withdraws with my current workload. I want to wait a week or so until I can afford to be out of sorts at work for a while and not get fired. I have never thought about quitting before last night when I made that post.
How can you afford (http://www.killthecan.org/pics/)not to?
A week or so? Yup you keep waiting for tomorrow, I will quit for today. I don't think you will get much sympathy from anyone here about your job being too important to quit right now. When you realize that tobacco and nicotine don't do anything for you or your job you will be better off. I told myself I would quit when I got married, first kid, second kid, birthdays, anniversaries, etc. Tomorrow never comes, today is your day. Instead of making excuses of why you cant quit, just do it.
I Will Quit Tomorrow - Epilog For Ricky
http://www.killthecan.org/facts/epilog.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/facts/epilog.asp)
Just saying...
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Hi it's my first day of being a quitter, I'm not doing to bad, but seem to keep rolling my tongue down into the pocket where that bitch used to sleep...lol it also feels like she's grabbing me by the neck and pulling... is that something that goes away? I used to do some pretty hard stuff when I was younger and when I quit with that stuff I got the same tension feeling every so offten and the urge to go back. I'm pretty sure that I just supplemented that with dip and cigs. So I guess my question is without anything does it seem to get easier?
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Hi it's my first day of being a quitter, I'm not doing to bad, but seem to keep rolling my tongue down into the pocket where that bitch used to sleep...lol it also feels like she's grabbing me by the neck and pulling... is that something that goes away? I used to do some pretty hard stuff when I was younger and when I quit with that stuff I got the same tension feeling every so offten and the urge to go back. I'm pretty sure that I just supplemented that with dip and cigs. So I guess my question is without anything does it seem to get easier?
It absolutely gets easier. Tons easier. But you just worry about keeping that shit out of your mouth today. And don't say "lol" if you are a guy.
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Hi it's my first day of being a quitter, I'm not doing to bad, but seem to keep rolling my tongue down into the pocket where that bitch used to sleep...lol it also feels like she's grabbing me by the neck and pulling... is that something that goes away? I used to do some pretty hard stuff when I was younger and when I quit with that stuff I got the same tension feeling every so offten and the urge to go back. I'm pretty sure that I just supplemented that with dip and cigs. So I guess my question is without anything does it seem to get easier?
It absolutely gets easier. Tons easier. But you just worry about keeping that shit out of your mouth today. And don't say "lol" if you are a guy.
Amen. 'lol' will surely get you labeled as 'ghey'.
And it gets so much easier bro, I can't even tell you. At one point in your life, the LAST thing you will EVER think about is dip. I swear.
But you gotta stay strong for now. You gotta BE strong for the foreseeable future. Right now. This minute. This five minutes, THIS hour! Stay close to this place, because there is NO other method that has our success rate.
No shit boys, we ARE the PREMIER Quit method! NO ONE has a better percentage than us, trust me.
-Nolaq - Day - 1138
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Hi it's my first day of being a quitter, I'm not doing to bad, but seem to keep rolling my tongue down into the pocket where that bitch used to sleep...lol it also feels like she's grabbing me by the neck and pulling... is that something that goes away? I used to do some pretty hard stuff when I was younger and when I quit with that stuff I got the same tension feeling every so offten and the urge to go back. I'm pretty sure that I just supplemented that with dip and cigs. So I guess my question is without anything does it seem to get easier?
It absolutely gets easier. Tons easier. But you just worry about keeping that shit out of your mouth today. And don't say "lol" if you are a guy.
Amen. 'lol' will surely get you labeled as 'ghey'.
And it gets so much easier bro, I can't even tell you. At one point in your life, the LAST thing you will EVER think about is dip. I swear.
But you gotta stay strong for now. You gotta BE strong for the foreseeable future. Right now. This minute. This five minutes, THIS hour! Stay close to this place, because there is NO other method that has our success rate.
No shit boys, we ARE the PREMIER Quit method! NO ONE has a better percentage than us, trust me.
-Nolaq - Day - 1138
lol..... GMANN is that you? 'crackup'
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I burn four fingers, upset the wife and learned not to use "lol" on my first day, and you know I'm still smiling and quit. Yep one hell of a first day... Truly thanks for the support and the info..
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I burn four fingers, upset the wife and learned not to use "lol" on my first day, and you know I'm still smiling and quit. Yep one hell of a first day... Truly thanks for the support and the info..
Come back tomorrow, make your promise, and we'll do it all again. Hopefully with another laugh or two along the way. Good work on day 1.
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Hi it's my first day of being a quitter, I'm not doing to bad, but seem to keep rolling my tongue down into the pocket where that bitch used to sleep...lol it also feels like she's grabbing me by the neck and pulling... is that something that goes away? I used to do some pretty hard stuff when I was younger and when I quit with that stuff I got the same tension feeling every so offten and the urge to go back. I'm pretty sure that I just supplemented that with dip and cigs. So I guess my question is without anything does it seem to get easier?
It absolutely gets easier. Tons easier. But you just worry about keeping that shit out of your mouth today. And don't say "lol" if you are a guy.
Amen. 'lol' will surely get you labeled as 'ghey'.
And it gets so much easier bro, I can't even tell you. At one point in your life, the LAST thing you will EVER think about is dip. I swear.
But you gotta stay strong for now. You gotta BE strong for the foreseeable future. Right now. This minute. This five minutes, THIS hour! Stay close to this place, because there is NO other method that has our success rate.
No shit boys, we ARE the PREMIER Quit method! NO ONE has a better percentage than us, trust me.
-Nolaq - Day - 1138
lol..... GMANN is that you? 'crackup'
GMANN is that you??Â
'crackup' lol, lmao, lmfao, lmbao, lho, lmho, lis, lmso, lolrotficgu, lola, lolz, lou, lshitipal, lshmbh, ltio... 'crackup' 'crackup'
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New blog post: ItÂ’s Day SIXTY-SEVEN And Who Would Have Thunk
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/04/its- ... ave-thunk/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/04/its-day-sixty-seven-and-who-would-have-thunk/)
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New blog post: ItÂ’s Day SIXTY-SEVEN And Who Would Have Thunk
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/04/its- ... ave-thunk/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/04/its-day-sixty-seven-and-who-would-have-thunk/)
What's up ya'll? So today is the 1st day of the rest out my "new" life. The life without the need for Nic in it. I've been either smoking or chewing since I was about 14 or so, thanks to grandma's cigs. I have "quit" multiple times only to fall right back into the same traps. I'm optimistic this go round will be successful. Wish me luck on day 1
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New blog post:Â ItÂ’s Day SIXTY-SEVEN And Who Would Have Thunk
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/04/its- ... ave-thunk/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/04/its-day-sixty-seven-and-who-would-have-thunk/)
What's up ya'll? So today is the 1st day of the rest out my "new" life. The life without the need for Nic in it. I've been either smoking or chewing since I was about 14 or so, thanks to grandma's cigs. I have "quit" multiple times only to fall right back into the same traps. I'm optimistic this go round will be successful. Wish me luck on day 1
You can DO this flyby if you want it badly enough. There is no "luck" or "try" in here! We get the job done one DAY at a time!!! Your have come to the right place to be a successful quitter!!!
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New blog post:Â ItÂ’s Day SIXTY-SEVEN And Who Would Have Thunk
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/04/its- ... ave-thunk/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/04/its-day-sixty-seven-and-who-would-have-thunk/)
What's up ya'll? So today is the 1st day of the rest out my "new" life. The life without the need for Nic in it. I've been either smoking or chewing since I was about 14 or so, thanks to grandma's cigs. I have "quit" multiple times only to fall right back into the same traps. I'm optimistic this go round will be successful. Wish me luck on day 1
You can DO this flyby if you want it badly enough. There is no "luck" or "try" in here! We get the job done one DAY at a time!!! Your have come to the right place to be a successful quitter!!!
dont be a flyby, flyby
welcome
figure out how to post Roll Call in the Welcome Center
git er done son
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So, I think I've had a "OMG!! That was me 157 days ago" moment.
Everyday at noon and midnight we have "midshift" meetings. We have to report to the management asshats what we have been doing since the beginning of shift. There are about 10 guys lined up shoulder to shoulder around the Unit supervisors desk. Today there was a guy two over from me that had a large ass cat turd of cope in his mouth. I could smell it! It was horrible. I might as well have had my nose buried in a freshly opened can of cope. Jesus!! that stunk. That guy moved away and I smelled something else. It was something wintergreen. Someone near had a big mouth full of something wintergreen. God almighty I swear that stuff was potent!. I can't believe that that used to be me! I have been in this situation before. Several times over the last couple of months I've been in this exact situation but the smells never bothered me that much. But tonight, it was the most stinking shit i've ever smelled. I thought I might have to move. My eyes started to water. It almost made me gag.
I think I've definetly turned a corner in my quit. I can't stand the smell of this shit. Not even the fake stuff. Here's to KTC and 157 days of quit. And here is to one more day tomorrow!!
Mike
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So, I was at my new job and decided to google how to stop dipping and this website came up. Reading through the posts of everyones success has inspired me to take the dip out of my mouth and register for the forum. I did not want to register until i decided to quit dipping. I know it will be hard because everyone I hang out with in the military uses tobacco. I threw away my spitters and cans in the trash and feel excited about not dipping. Any helpful tips would be nice.
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So, I was at my new job and decided to google how to stop dipping and this website came up. Reading through the posts of everyones success has inspired me to take the dip out of my mouth and register for the forum. I did not want to register until i decided to quit dipping. I know it will be hard because everyone I hang out with in the military uses tobacco. I threw away my spitters and cans in the trash and feel excited about not dipping. Any helpful tips would be nice.
The most important tip I can give you is to stay away from those who dip when you have down time, and/or stay busy doing stuff that is new or is not a trigger to dip.
I quit in 97 for 10 months, then we were on lock down with nothing to do, I was killing time with my guys and they were dipping so I bummed a dip thinking it was only one and it wouldn't hurt, and the next thing you know I was at the PX buying a can. Every step after that I kept telling myself I would/could stop. So here I am some 17 years later finally stopping....again.
BTW I'm a sunflower seed eating fool these days! And I'm quit!!!!
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I'm at a point where I am feeling empty, bored and depressesed. I think maybe a few beer will knock the edge off after work but that's another 4 or 5 hour
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I'm at a point where I am feeling empty, bored and depressesed. I think maybe a few beer will knock the edge off after work but that's another 4 or 5 hour
Not sure where you are in your quit, but boredom couple with alcohol can kill a quit... FAST.
http://www.killthecan.org/facts/funk01.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/facts/funk01.asp)
Tread lightly!
~ chewie
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12 days lol. But what was described as the funk fits me perfectly right now. I am bored and the 4 to 10 day knovelty has worn off. Ill just keep quitting one day at a time. Thanks for the advice chwie
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Today is Day one... Again! And This time I feel stronger!
New blog post:Â ItÂ’s Day SIXTY-SEVEN And Who Would Have Thunk
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/04/its- ... ave-thunk/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/04/its-day-sixty-seven-and-who-would-have-thunk/)
What's up ya'll? So today is the 1st day of the rest out my "new" life. The life without the need for Nic in it. I've been either smoking or chewing since I was about 14 or so, thanks to grandma's cigs. I have "quit" multiple times only to fall right back into the same traps. I'm optimistic this go round will be successful. Wish me luck on day 1
You can DO this flyby if you want it badly enough. There is no "luck" or "try" in here! We get the job done one DAY at a time!!! Your have come to the right place to be a successful quitter!!!
dont be a flyby, flyby
welcome
figure out how to post Roll Call in the Welcome Center
git er done son
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Just wanted to say Hello and Thank You to all of you. This site has been a great help. 6 days ago I quit Cope Long Cut cold turkey after 17 years (13 in the Army) I want to thank you guys because I almost did not make my 7th day. I have yet to try the Mint leaves or pills or anything other than normal gum and a bag of chips a day. I am at the stage now where I am more of an A hole than normal, I feel bad for my wife and kids. I miss having a chew in, I never relised that I was actually addicted to it! I am open to any pointers or tips that will help keep me off the dip!
Nick
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Just wanted to say Hello and Thank You to all of you. This site has been a great help. 6 days ago I quit Cope Long Cut cold turkey after 17 years (13 in the Army) I want to thank you guys because I almost did not make my 7th day. I have yet to try the Mint leaves or pills or anything other than normal gum and a bag of chips a day. I am at the stage now where I am more of an A hole than normal, I feel bad for my wife and kids. I miss having a chew in, I never relised that I was actually addicted to it! I am open to any pointers or tips that will help keep me off the dip!
Nick
Congrats on your quit! And make sure to post roll everyday the sooner the better, It really helps me remember.. But as for the mental addiction part and just wanting something in your mouth, I use Hooch herbal snuff... It works great for me when I get to that point where I just have to have something, I was surprised how effective just the act of dipping was satisfying. Even though you can swallow the herbal stuff, try to keep spitting with it, key is to satisfy all parts of your mind.. Are you in the August quit group yet? You need to get there and post roll if not.. I quit with you today!!
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What the fuck is up with this over crowded population of losers on welfare and all these other godam government hand outs. IT'S A FUCKING helping hand people. Not a way of life. I get so fuckin mad when my wife tells me. Oh we better hold off on buyin this or that because they are taxing the ever loving shit out of my checks. To those of you who truly need it due to whatever reason besides being a lazy, pride less fuck. This is not directed to you. And fuck Copenhagen wintergreen to
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:( 2 hour till 72 hours of no nic. fucking head kills and have been in a tunnel when doas it stop?
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:( 2 hour till 72 hours of no nic. fucking head kills and have been in a tunnel when doas it stop?
Hey there bob - have you been exercising? have you been drinking enough water and/or cranberry juice? These both will help with those headaches as they will help to flush the poisons out of your system and get your body the good nourishment that it deserves. It is a wild ride so hold on, but you can do this
And very much well done on the 72 hours
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:( 2 hour till 72 hours of no nic. fucking head kills and have been in a tunnel when doas it stop?
Hey there bob - have you been exercising? have you been drinking enough water and/or cranberry juice? These both will help with those headaches as they will help to flush the poisons out of your system and get your body the good nourishment that it deserves. It is a wild ride so hold on, but you can do this
And very much well done on the 72 hours
The physical withdraw symptoms should be over in a couple days Bob, although everyone is a little different. The headaches should lessen. But the mental symptoms will remain for a while as your brain rewires to a life without nicotine. That is the foggy feeling you have now. This is not a speedy process, but I'm betting it is considerably shorter than the amount of time you spent feeding your addiction. Certainly was for me.
As SirDerek suggests, take care of your body now. Exercise, drink water, avoid/limit booze.
You can do this, thousands of us have.
Post roll every day pledging tobacco is off the table
Keep your word each day
Get into chat or text/call a brother if you are craving, they will help
Read. There is a ton of excellent info on this site to help you grow your quit.
Do whatever it takes to keep that shit out of your mouth today.
Sack up and hang in there!
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Love the new banner, can't wait to show it to my son! Is this by roamcountry? May the fourth be with you...
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Hello All. I joined this forum back when I had only been quit for a short period. It's a great place for quitters to come for support and interaction with fellow quitters. I only posted a couple of check ins and found myself not having time in the mornings to stop by and make my daily pledge. But I did stay quit! I have just passed my 100 days recently and I am here to tell anyone that is having a hard time doing this, that if I can do it, anybody can!!
I started chewing sometime between the age of 11 and 13, I am 52 years old now (that's about 40 years of this addiction!). I chewed Skoal Original Fine Cut my entire life and when I made the decision to quit back in late January, I was chewing two cans a day consistently. I didn't plan it, and I didn't have any real reason to quit other than I came to a realization that at some point, a doctor would be telling me that I would either have to quit, or I would probably die from this crap! So I knew that I would eventually have to suffer the process of quitting and just decided to get it over with. So I came home from work one day and told my wife that I was quitting and I made a commitment to myself to not buy another can of chew when my last can ran out. I figured if I could make it through the first few hours, I would prove to myself that I wasn't going to die if I didn't feed my nicotine addiction. I made it through that first day alive!!!
So I am here to tell anyone trying to do this that it is a daily commitment to yourself, it is probably going to be one of the hardest things you'll ever put yourself through, and you will not be pleasant to be around at times. But.... like me, at some point in your life you will realize that you have no choice but to quit or die! So why wait?
Getting past the first week or two was the hardest part. And what has kept me going is first, the desire to not want to put myself or my family through those first few days ever again!
Second, and probably most importantly for me, was that as I drive by a mini-market every morning on my way to work with that urge to stop and by myself a can I just make myself keep right on going. Every time I get past that mini-market I celebrate another day of victory over that horrible habit that I have suffered though for the past 40 years!!! And that has been how I make my personal commitment each and every day!
So again, if I can do this, anybody can!
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Love the new banner, can't wait to show it to my son! Is this by roamcountry? May the fourth be with you...
second this!
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sorry - post let go - rantings of a crazy nicotine withdrawal stricken newbie.
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At first when I quit in January 2011, I was taking chantix to help me quit. I took the pills and came here everyday for 60 days non-stop. After that I was told by a fellow quitter that I need to let go of the chantix. So I did and it was no different then if I was taking the pills. After I hit HOF i beleived at the time that the hard part was over. It was far from being over. To this day I have remained quit, even though a couple of times I thought that I gave in to the addiction but luckly for me it was a dream. ( Really think that they are real but they are not). Now I coach baseball and I am enjoying being dip free however every once in a while I get that temptation and I say NO I am quit and your not going to win. It has been 2 in a half years almost since i quit. I wanted to come in here and wish everyone of you guys success. I beleive that this site help me more with my addiction than you will know, but i will always remember that I was once a Newbie on Day 2 when i found this site. If my post gets to one person to quit then I believe I have suceeded but then i think it not really about that , it is really a group of brothers and sisters who are battleing a fight for their lives and everyday we win by one day at a time approach. I have tried before to quit and I didn't suceed so as I approach another 100 days. I will always be fighting this fight to remain quit. It was hard at first but just because today is easy doesn't mean you are done. It just means you are having a good day. Stay Quit
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At first when I quit in January 2011, I was taking chantix to help me quit. I took the pills and came here everyday for 60 days non-stop. After that I was told by a fellow quitter that I need to let go of the chantix. So I did and it was no different then if I was taking the pills. After I hit HOF i beleived at the time that the hard part was over. It was far from being over. To this day I have remained quit, even though a couple of times I thought that I gave in to the addiction but luckly for me it was a dream. ( Really think that they are real but they are not). Now I coach baseball and I am enjoying being dip free however every once in a while I get that temptation and I say NO I am quit and your not going to win. It has been 2 in a half years almost since i quit. I wanted to come in here and wish everyone of you guys success. I beleive that this site help me more with my addiction than you will know, but i will always remember that I was once a Newbie on Day 2 when i found this site. If my post gets to one person to quit then I believe I have suceeded but then i think it not really about that , it is really a group of brothers and sisters who are battleing a fight for their lives and everyday we win by one day at a time approach. I have tried before to quit and I didn't suceed so as I approach another 100 days. I will always be fighting this fight to remain quit. It was hard at first but just because today is easy doesn't mean you are done. It just means you are having a good day. Stay Quit
Thanks for the inspiring words. Did you post roll in your old group and see how everyone was doing? Let me know if you don't remember what group you were in.
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Love the new banner, can't wait to show it to my son! Is this by roamcountry? May the fourth be with you...
second this!
Thanks, it sure didnt last long...... :(
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Love the new banner, can't wait to show it to my son! Is this by roamcountry? May the fourth be with you...
second this!
Thanks, it sure didnt last long...... :(
Aint Spielberg workin on another?
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Love the new banner, can't wait to show it to my son! Is this by roamcountry? May the fourth be with you...
second this!
Thanks, it sure didnt last long...... :(
Aint Spielberg workin on another?
Another day.down but still get cravimgs at times. I.coach and several.of the other coaches dip. When days are stressful, I.find myself less and less wqnting a dip. There are times though when I think "Just 1 dip.sure woild feel good and then I could stay quit". Don't give in. Nicotene is that bad bitch that can make you betray your wife and family. I truly believe that is one reason I can stay quit- I don't want to cheat on them.
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How do I send a pic of my coin travels,and to whom?
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Love the new banner, can't wait to show it to my son! Is this by roamcountry? May the fourth be with you...
second this!
Thanks, it sure didnt last long...... :(
Aint Spielberg workin on another?
Another day.down but still get cravimgs at times. I.coach and several.of the other coaches dip. When days are stressful, I.find myself less and less wqnting a dip. There are times though when I think "Just 1 dip.sure woild feel good and then I could stay quit". Don't give in. Nicotene is that bad bitch that can make you betray your wife and family. I truly believe that is one reason I can stay quit- I don't want to cheat on them.
Just because other people dip is not a excuse for you to cave. It does make it harder but you have got to be strong. With time you will start to feel sorry for the dippers realizing they are weak to there addiction. I walk past two coworkers daily with a can of dip on there desk. It is easy to bum a dip, but I have refused to ask for 633 days. Stay strong
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What am I missing here. Where is all the talking and discussions taking place. I go to my group daily and post roll, all I see is roll for the most part.
I scan the active quit groups and 90 percent of them is strictly roll.
I go to general discussion and not a lot of activity.
I go to chat, most times nobody is in there between 8 and 5.
I just feel like I am missing a part of the site. It seems like people are talking, sharing stories, trials, successes, etc I just don't see where.
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How do I send a pic of my coin travels,and to whom?
hey baudy - you can send them to me at chewie@killthecan.org (http://mailto:chewie@killthecan.org) and I'll get them posted!
Thanks!
chewie
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What am I missing here. Where is all the talking and discussions taking place. I go to my group daily and post roll, all I see is roll for the most part.
I scan the active quit groups and 90 percent of them is strictly roll.
I go to general discussion and not a lot of activity.
I go to chat, most times nobody is in there between 8 and 5.
I just feel like I am missing a part of the site. It seems like people are talking, sharing stories, trials, successes, etc I just don't see where.
If you're looking for general non-dipping banter, you can check out the WILDCARD section: index.php?c=279746 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?c=279746)
As for in-group discussion - quite a bit of the above the fold groups are just role. It's a problem that we're trying to address and is a good problem to have... as we get more and more quitters, general "discussion" does have a tendency to get lost.
That said it's VITAL to your quit. So, it's definitely something we need to address. Just cause we're getting bigger we don't want to lose that.
SO... chat it up here, chat it up in your group. Hell come on over to my group in October 2006... we'll talk with you. We're old and curmudgeony but we're quit as hell.
chewie
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What am I missing here. Where is all the talking and discussions taking place. I go to my group daily and post roll, all I see is roll for the most part.
I scan the active quit groups and 90 percent of them is strictly roll.
I go to general discussion and not a lot of activity.
I go to chat, most times nobody is in there between 8 and 5.
I just feel like I am missing a part of the site. It seems like people are talking, sharing stories, trials, successes, etc I just don't see where.
If you're looking for general non-dipping banter, you can check out the WILDCARD section: index.php?c=279746 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?c=279746)
As for in-group discussion - quite a bit of the above the fold groups are just role. It's a problem that we're trying to address and is a good problem to have... as we get more and more quitters, general "discussion" does have a tendency to get lost.
That said it's VITAL to your quit. So, it's definitely something we need to address. Just cause we're getting bigger we don't want to lose that.
SO... chat it up here, chat it up in your group. Hell come on over to my group in October 2006... we'll talk with you. We're old and curmudgeony but we're quit as hell.
chewie
Man, WILDCARD is the place to be. I honestly spend hours there daily bantering back and forth with all the quitters. Like Chewie said, if your group ain't active find one that is. January 13 is always full of fun. Check them out sometime.
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What am I missing here. Where is all the talking and discussions taking place. I go to my group daily and post roll, all I see is roll for the most part.
I scan the active quit groups and 90 percent of them is strictly roll.
I go to general discussion and not a lot of activity.
I go to chat, most times nobody is in there between 8 and 5.
I just feel like I am missing a part of the site. It seems like people are talking, sharing stories, trials, successes, etc I just don't see where.
If you're looking for general non-dipping banter, you can check out the WILDCARD section: index.php?c=279746 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?c=279746)
As for in-group discussion - quite a bit of the above the fold groups are just role. It's a problem that we're trying to address and is a good problem to have... as we get more and more quitters, general "discussion" does have a tendency to get lost.
That said it's VITAL to your quit. So, it's definitely something we need to address. Just cause we're getting bigger we don't want to lose that.
SO... chat it up here, chat it up in your group. Hell come on over to my group in October 2006... we'll talk with you. We're old and curmudgeony but we're quit as hell.
chewie
Man, WILDCARD is the place to be. I honestly spend hours there daily bantering back and forth with all the quitters. Like Chewie said, if your group ain't active find one that is. January 13 is always full of fun. Check them out sometime.
You should also read some of the older quit groups, may 08, may 11 'archer' April 11, may 09, and so on. Lots of good stuff there, and you could always help those folks or by sparking up some conversation. Crusty old writers love to chat it up with newer quitters, reminds them (us) of what ewer never want to experience again. Anytime you want to pop into may 11 feel free, we will giver you more conversation than you can handle.
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What am I missing here. Where is all the talking and discussions taking place. I go to my group daily and post roll, all I see is roll for the most part.
I scan the active quit groups and 90 percent of them is strictly roll.
I go to general discussion and not a lot of activity.
I go to chat, most times nobody is in there between 8 and 5.
I just feel like I am missing a part of the site. It seems like people are talking, sharing stories, trials, successes, etc I just don't see where.
If you're looking for general non-dipping banter, you can check out the WILDCARD section: index.php?c=279746 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?c=279746)
As for in-group discussion - quite a bit of the above the fold groups are just role. It's a problem that we're trying to address and is a good problem to have... as we get more and more quitters, general "discussion" does have a tendency to get lost.
That said it's VITAL to your quit. So, it's definitely something we need to address. Just cause we're getting bigger we don't want to lose that.
SO... chat it up here, chat it up in your group. Hell come on over to my group in October 2006... we'll talk with you. We're old and curmudgeony but we're quit as hell.
chewie
Man, WILDCARD is the place to be. I honestly spend hours there daily bantering back and forth with all the quitters. Like Chewie said, if your group ain't active find one that is. January 13 is always full of fun. Check them out sometime.
You should also read some of the older quit groups, may 08, may 11 'archer' April 11, may 09, and so on. Lots of good stuff there, and you could always help those folks or by sparking up some conversation. Crusty old writers love to chat it up with newer quitters, reminds them (us) of what ewer never want to experience again. Anytime you want to pop into may 11 feel free, we will giver you more conversation than you can handle.
My favorite spot for conversation is the intros. Especially newbies searching for a way to record the suck they are experiencing. That keeps my own suck fresh in my mind and also gives me the opportunity to pay forward the advise I got early on.
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Just wanted to check in after a long break to say that I'm still quit. Passed the 6 month milestone recently so I checked in to see what my savings have been.
200 days, $787.50 saved
Incredible to see how much it adds up. That's gotta put me at around $1,400/year I was spending to kill myself.
Also wanted to say thanks again to this awesome community that helped me get where I am today. Could not have reformed my behavior without your support.
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What am I missing here. Where is all the talking and discussions taking place. I go to my group daily and post roll, all I see is roll for the most part.
I scan the active quit groups and 90 percent of them is strictly roll.
I go to general discussion and not a lot of activity.
I go to chat, most times nobody is in there between 8 and 5.
I just feel like I am missing a part of the site. It seems like people are talking, sharing stories, trials, successes, etc I just don't see where.
If you're looking for general non-dipping banter, you can check out the WILDCARD section: index.php?c=279746 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?c=279746)
As for in-group discussion - quite a bit of the above the fold groups are just role. It's a problem that we're trying to address and is a good problem to have... as we get more and more quitters, general "discussion" does have a tendency to get lost.
That said it's VITAL to your quit. So, it's definitely something we need to address. Just cause we're getting bigger we don't want to lose that.
SO... chat it up here, chat it up in your group. Hell come on over to my group in October 2006... we'll talk with you. We're old and curmudgeony but we're quit as hell.
chewie
Man, WILDCARD is the place to be. I honestly spend hours there daily bantering back and forth with all the quitters. Like Chewie said, if your group ain't active find one that is. January 13 is always full of fun. Check them out sometime.
You should also read some of the older quit groups, may 08, may 11 'archer' April 11, may 09, and so on. Lots of good stuff there, and you could always help those folks or by sparking up some conversation. Crusty old writers love to chat it up with newer quitters, reminds them (us) of what ewer never want to experience again. Anytime you want to pop into may 11 feel free, we will giver you more conversation than you can handle.
My favorite spot for conversation is the intros. Especially newbies searching for a way to record the suck they are experiencing. That keeps my own suck fresh in my mind and also gives me the opportunity to pay forward the advise I got early on.
Thanks for the tips guys. Guess I should have mentioned I am from Nov 11 and our group has calmed down. I did get into introduction section yesterday and started chatting with the new guys. I feel my quit is solid, but I like to stay committed to the group and help out where I can.
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I went to post a new topic, just something to chat about....i don't know if i had really anything on my mind, but the server told me that i did not have permission....i think this site is very good for me but it can be a little frustrating to navigate through it all!
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I went to post a new topic, just something to chat about....i don't know if i had really anything on my mind, but the server told me that i did not have permission....i think this site is very good for me but it can be a little frustrating to navigate through it all!
Have you started an intro thread? Do that and then you can post their until your heart's content. You can also post up questions and comments in your quit group.
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I dont know if this is the right place to post this? This site is hard to grab. Anyway, today at 14:30 i had my last dip. I started at 13 and i am now 34. I have quit in the past for a year, then Iraq came 03 and i have been dipping a can a day if not more when we are in the field. My little girl is the main reason i am quitting. She saw a movie at school and it has her worried that daddy will not be around anymore. So here to quitting!! 5 hours with no Cope and counting.
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I recently bought a "best of" book of old sports illustrated writer, Rick Reiley that is on sale on amazon and just finished reading this piece (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/inside_game/magazine/life_of_reilly/news/2002/03/13/life_of_reilly/) from 2002 about tobacco in mlb. I was 18 at the time and clearly remember reading this and thinking how easy it would be.for me to quit after high school was over.
I am glad I have come accross this article again as a quitter. It is pretty pathitic how little major league baseball has progressed on there stance with smokeless tobacco.
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I went to post a new topic, just something to chat about....i don't know if i had really anything on my mind, but the server told me that i did not have permission....i think this site is very good for me but it can be a little frustrating to navigate through it all!
Have you started an intro thread? Do that and then you can post their until your heart's content. You can also post up questions and comments in your quit group.
Yes i started an intro thread a few days ago. Still won't allow me too...
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What am I missing here. Where is all the talking and discussions taking place. I go to my group daily and post roll, all I see is roll for the most part.
I scan the active quit groups and 90 percent of them is strictly roll.
I go to general discussion and not a lot of activity.
I go to chat, most times nobody is in there between 8 and 5.
I just feel like I am missing a part of the site. It seems like people are talking, sharing stories, trials, successes, etc I just don't see where.
I'm really confused. How could you after 600+ days of quit not know your way around the site? Daily posting is great but why wait 600 days to start looking for more? Something curious about this.
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I went to post a new topic, just something to chat about....i don't know if i had really anything on my mind, but the server told me that i did not have permission....i think this site is very good for me but it can be a little frustrating to navigate through it all!
Have you started an intro thread? Do that and then you can post their until your heart's content. You can also post up questions and comments in your quit group.
Yes i started an intro thread a few days ago. Still won't allow me too...
Yeah, I don't think we're allowed to start new topics in this area. Best place to put something is in your intro or quit group. It will likely be seen by more folks there.
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I went to post a new topic, just something to chat about....i don't know if i had really anything on my mind, but the server told me that i did not have permission....i think this site is very good for me but it can be a little frustrating to navigate through it all!
Have you started an intro thread? Do that and then you can post their until your heart's content. You can also post up questions and comments in your quit group.
Yes i started an intro thread a few days ago. Still won't allow me too...
Yeah, I don't think we're allowed to start new topics in this area. Best place to put something is in your intro or quit group. It will likely be seen by more folks there.
All quitters are also allowed to post on Quit4Today.com
If you're interested just let me know in this thread: index.php?showforum=45 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=45)
You can post till your heart's content there!
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New blog post: Try Go Coffee Energy Smokeless Alternative At A Discount!
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/05/try- ... -discount/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/05/try-go-coffee-energy-smokeless-alternative-at-a-discount/)
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What am I missing here. Where is all the talking and discussions taking place. I go to my group daily and post roll, all I see is roll for the most part.
I scan the active quit groups and 90 percent of them is strictly roll.
I go to general discussion and not a lot of activity.
I go to chat, most times nobody is in there between 8 and 5.
I just feel like I am missing a part of the site. It seems like people are talking, sharing stories, trials, successes, etc I just don't see where.
I'm really confused. How could you after 600+ days of quit not know your way around the site? Daily posting is great but why wait 600 days to start looking for more? Something curious about this.
I'm with WT on this one, there is a ton of info available. Start by working your way through the tabs at the top. Check everything out, you will find something that inspires you to read more.
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What am I missing here. Where is all the talking and discussions taking place. I go to my group daily and post roll, all I see is roll for the most part.
I scan the active quit groups and 90 percent of them is strictly roll.
I go to general discussion and not a lot of activity.
I go to chat, most times nobody is in there between 8 and 5.
I just feel like I am missing a part of the site. It seems like people are talking, sharing stories, trials, successes, etc I just don't see where.
I'm really confused. How could you after 600+ days of quit not know your way around the site? Daily posting is great but why wait 600 days to start looking for more? Something curious about this.
I'm with WT on this one, there is a ton of info available. Start by working your way through the tabs at the top. Check everything out, you will find something that inspires you to read more.
I think I see a little of what Dav is saying. One of the items I have noticed lately (since I quit last July), is that I think alot of the banter has moved to the Facebook groups.
And for myself, I tend to do alot more in the private messaging, rather that putting it into my quit group.
As agree afternoons have been a little slow in the live chat, though I do try to pop in Monday-Friday, at least 2-3 times during those times.
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Who is attending the smokeless and spit tobacco summit representing KTC? Are exhibits open to non registered general public? I would like to stop by and meet our representatives. I'll be keeping those days open for now if I can make it up to Missoula.
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Who is attending the smokeless and spit tobacco summit representing KTC? Are exhibits open to non registered general public? I would like to stop by and meet our representatives. I'll be keeping those days open for now if I can make it up to Missoula.
Several of us crashed the Austin, TX Summit. We had a get together in the evening and were able to sneak in the exhibit hall and see the booth since they weren't watching the door. The next day several of us walked into the luncheon with Klark and Chewie and had no problems either. If security is tight, I am sure one of the registered KTC members will be able to lend you a badge to get in the exhibit hall. The more KTC member that can come the better.
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I will be in Cape San Blas FL July 20-27. Anybody want to meet up and have some beers or do some fishing?
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I will be in Cape San Blas FL July 20-27. Anybody want to meet up and have some beers or do some fishing?
I would post this in here, as well, Mike.
index.php?showtopic=5608 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=5608)
Never been to San Blas, but hear it's nice and secluded and less molested by man than most other coastal areas.
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Who is attending the smokeless and spit tobacco summit representing KTC? Are exhibits open to non registered general public? I would like to stop by and meet our representatives. I'll be keeping those days open for now if I can make it up to Missoula.
Several of us crashed the Austin, TX Summit. We had a get together in the evening and were able to sneak in the exhibit hall and see the booth since they weren't watching the door. The next day several of us walked into the luncheon with Klark and Chewie and had no problems either. If security is tight, I am sure one of the registered KTC members will be able to lend you a badge to get in the exhibit hall. The more KTC member that can come the better.
Some more details on the Summit:
Program Highlights From The 7th National Spit Tobacco Summit
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/05/prog ... co-summit/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/05/program-highlights-from-the-7th-national-spit-tobacco-summit/)
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New blog post: Program Highlights From The 7th National Spit Tobacco Summit
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/05/prog ... co-summit/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/05/program-highlights-from-the-7th-national-spit-tobacco-summit/)
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New blog post: Ode TO Day 68 - I Woke Up This Morning And It Dawned On MeTobacco Summit
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/05/ode- ... ned-on-me/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/05/ode-to-day-68-i-woke-up-this-morning-and-it-dawned-on-me/)
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We are saddened to learn of the passing of Lee Lewis, founder of Nip Energy Dip. Lee had dedicated his life to helping people quit dipping and the world is a sadder place without Lee in it. Rest in peace friend.
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New blog post: Rest In Peace Lee Lewis - Nip Energy Dip Founder President
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/05/rest ... president/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/05/rest-in-peace-lee-lewis-nip-energy-dip-founder-president/)
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New blog post: Ode To Day 69 - I'm Out Of The Haze!
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/05/ode- ... -the-haze/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/05/ode-to-day-69-im-out-of-the-haze/)
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I have been chewing since I was 19, I am now 21. I started on long cut and thought hey maybe if I went to pouches it would be easier to quit. I started off with only one and now I am up to two pouches per did. I was wondering what would be the best route to take. I have 6 pouches left in my last can. Should I try and cut back with those remaining 6 or just throw them away?
Also what are some good substitutes? Sunflower seeds help for a while but I get burned out on them for a while and I don't like the feeling of hard candies. Is there another substitute I can make?
Also on the day I decide to quit where can I locate the quitter page where my help community would be? I saw the one for April and not one for May. Thanks for any replies I will receive I look forward to dropping this disgusting habit I have acquired.
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Hi my name is Kegean i had been promising my wife that i would quit for years and have never kept that promise today is the day that i keep that promise for her and for myself. I wanna do this for me, us and our future together. I love her so much and am so sorry it has taken me this long. I knw its going to suck big time. I took my last Dip out five min ago. and dumped what was left in the can into the toilet.
i Need help navigating the site i found out how to post roll call in the help area but don't know wher to post it. it says to go to my quit page and then to my quit group but i dont knw wher or what eather of those are if someone could please help
thanks
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Hi my name is Kegean i had been promising my wife that i would quit for years and have never kept that promise today is the day that i keep that promise for her and for myself. I wanna do this for me, us and our future together. I love her so much and am so sorry it has taken me this long. I knw its going to suck big time. I took my last Dip out five min ago. and dumped what was left in the can into the toilet.
i Need help navigating the site i found out how to post roll call in the help area but don't know wher to post it. it says to go to my quit page and then to my quit group but i dont knw wher or what eather of those are if someone could please help
thanks
Post in August 2013 that is the month you will hit HOF your 100 day mark.
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I have been chewing since I was 19, I am now 21. I started on long cut and thought hey maybe if I went to pouches it would be easier to quit. I started off with only one and now I am up to two pouches per did. I was wondering what would be the best route to take. I have 6 pouches left in my last can. Should I try and cut back with those remaining 6 or just throw them away?
Also what are some good substitutes? Sunflower seeds help for a while but I get burned out on them for a while and I don't like the feeling of hard candies. Is there another substitute I can make?
Also on the day I decide to quit where can I locate the quitter page where my help community would be? I saw the one for April and not one for May. Thanks for any replies I will receive I look forward to dropping this disgusting habit I have acquired.
Dump your shit NOW if you don't you will keep postponing your quit. I know because I pushed my quit date a can at a time till 40 years passed. Fake dip helps some quitters, I used smokey Mountian for several months and then gradually got bored with it and didn't need it any more.
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I have been chewing since I was 19, I am now 21. I started on long cut and thought hey maybe if I went to pouches it would be easier to quit. I started off with only one and now I am up to two pouches per did. I was wondering what would be the best route to take. I have 6 pouches left in my last can. Should I try and cut back with those remaining 6 or just throw them away?
Also what are some good substitutes? Sunflower seeds help for a while but I get burned out on them for a while and I don't like the feeling of hard candies. Is there another substitute I can make?
Also on the day I decide to quit where can I locate the quitter page where my help community would be? I saw the one for April and not one for May. Thanks for any replies I will receive I look forward to dropping this disgusting habit I have acquired.
Dump your shit NOW if you don't you will keep postponing your quit. I know because I pushed my quit date a can at a time till 40 years passed. Fake dip helps some quitters, I used smokey Mountian for several months and then gradually got bored with it and didn't need it any more.
You can say tomorrw till the day you die. The only way to quit and change anything is to say TODAY!!!
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I have been chewing since I was 19, I am now 21. I started on long cut and thought hey maybe if I went to pouches it would be easier to quit. I started off with only one and now I am up to two pouches per did. I was wondering what would be the best route to take. I have 6 pouches left in my last can. Should I try and cut back with those remaining 6 or just throw them away?
Also what are some good substitutes? Sunflower seeds help for a while but I get burned out on them for a while and I don't like the feeling of hard candies. Is there another substitute I can make?
Also on the day I decide to quit where can I locate the quitter page where my help community would be? I saw the one for April and not one for May. Thanks for any replies I will receive I look forward to dropping this disgusting habit I have acquired.
Dump your shit NOW if you don't you will keep postponing your quit. I know because I pushed my quit date a can at a time till 40 years passed. Fake dip helps some quitters, I used smokey Mountian for several months and then gradually got bored with it and didn't need it any more.
You can say tomorrw till the day you die. The only way to quit and change anything is to say TODAY!!!
Yes, dump it now. You will be posting in the August 2013 pre hof group. The groups are designed around when you will make it to 100 days quit, which is one of the first milestone in a lifelong quit.
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New blog post: The Support Of A Good Woman
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/05/the- ... ood-woman/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/05/the-support-of-a-good-woman/)
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ok that has to be the best header I have seen yet....
proud and very appreciative of those who have been there and who continue to be there for US.
thanks
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ok that has to be the best header I have seen yet....
proud and very appreciative of those who have been there and who continue to be there for US.
thanks
What Derek said. Nice job!
'clap'
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ok that has to be the best header I have seen yet....
proud and very appreciative of those who have been there and who continue to be there for US.
thanks
What Derek said. Nice job!
'clap'
Deepest respect and honor those who fought and died in defense of our freedom. There are those who have served and are serving and have lost a friend in service. I have gotten quite a few texts, and it seems the effect of this banner hit its mark. I am veey grateful to those who have served....this ones for you!
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I've been Copenhagen free for twelve hours now. First time in 20 years. Can't sleep. Scotch is taking edge off. Went through entire bag of ranch sunflower seeds. Mouth feels like I went down on Hillary Clinton with a yeast infection. Would rather be locked in port-a-potty and lit on fire listening to rap music.
ok that has to be the best header I have seen yet....
proud and very appreciative of those who have been there and who continue to be there for US.
thanks
What Derek said. Nice job!
'clap'
Deepest respect and honor those who fought and died in defense of our freedom. There are those who have served and are serving and have a friend in service. I have gotten quite a few texts, and it seems the effect of this banner hit its mark. I am veey grateful to those who have served....this ones for you!
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Caught my 16 yr old dipping. Others on bsb team had started. Had LONG heart to heart talk with him about how he did not want to fight this addiction. He promised he would stop. Feel like it is my fault. Day 299 is today. I don't want him ever keeping a count.
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Caught my 16 yr old dipping. Others on bsb team had started. Had LONG heart to heart talk with him about how he did not want to fight this addiction. He promised he would stop. Feel like it is my fault. Day 299 is today. I don't want him ever keeping a count.
Man that is tough, one of my many driving factors is my son who is 6 months old to not have to see that. I wish my old man had tanned my hide when he first caught me. Its a tough spot at 16 you are invincible, cancer and all that has no impact on how you live your life. Hopefully you got through to him. Maybe him seeing your struggle will be the push he needs to stay away.
Best of luck
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I've been Copenhagen free for twelve hours now. First time in 20 years. Can't sleep. Scotch is taking edge off. Went through entire bag of ranch sunflower seeds. Mouth feels like I went down on Hillary Clinton with a yeast infection. Would rather be locked in port-a-potty and lit on fire listening to rap music.
Yep. You're pretty much on the right track! It sucks, but remember this so you never go back. Pm me if i can help.
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Once again, I cannot thank this site enough for what it provides.
Today, I hit 879 days.
Today, my wife hit her half comma.
How's 1379 days quit sound to you?
Accountability. Friendship. Not giving in but giving a call and asking for permission to quit.
KTC fucking rocks.
Quit on.
~Frazz
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Once again, I cannot thank this site enough for what it provides.
Today, I hit 879 days.
Today, my wife hit her half comma.
How's 1379 days quit sound to you?
Accountability. Friendship. Not giving in but giving a call and asking for permission to quit.
KTC fucking rocks.
Quit on.
~Frazz
'clap'
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Once again, I cannot thank this site enough for what it provides.
Today, I hit 879 days.
Today, my wife hit her half comma.
How's 1379 days quit sound to you?
Accountability. Friendship. Not giving in but giving a call and asking for permission to quit.
KTC fucking rocks.
Quit on.
~Frazz
'clap'
P-R-O-O-F the system works.
Thank you and CONGRATS!!!!
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Once again, I cannot thank this site enough for what it provides.
Today, I hit 879 days.
Today, my wife hit her half comma.
How's 1379 days quit sound to you?
Accountability. Friendship. Not giving in but giving a call and asking for permission to quit.
KTC fucking rocks.
Quit on.
~Frazz
'clap'
P-R-O-O-F the system works.
Thank you and CONGRATS!!!!
Awesome.
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Once again, I cannot thank this site enough for what it provides.
Today, I hit 879 days.
Today, my wife hit her half comma.
How's 1379 days quit sound to you?
Accountability. Friendship. Not giving in but giving a call and asking for permission to quit.
KTC fucking rocks.
Quit on.
~Frazz
'clap'
P-R-O-O-F the system works.
Thank you and CONGRATS!!!!
Awesome.
That's alot of quit in Frazzland.
Well Done!!!
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Once again, I cannot thank this site enough for what it provides.
Today, I hit 879 days.
Today, my wife hit her half comma.
How's 1379 days quit sound to you?
Accountability. Friendship. Not giving in but giving a call and asking for permission to quit.
KTC fucking rocks.
Quit on.
~Frazz
'clap'
P-R-O-O-F the system works.
Thank you and CONGRATS!!!!
Awesome.
That's alot of quit in Frazzland.
Well Done!!!
Well done my friend, Well Done!
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Once again, I cannot thank this site enough for what it provides.
Today, I hit 879 days.
Today, my wife hit her half comma.
How's 1379 days quit sound to you?
Accountability. Friendship. Not giving in but giving a call and asking for permission to quit.
KTC fucking rocks.
Quit on.
~Frazz
'clap'
P-R-O-O-F the system works.
Thank you and CONGRATS!!!!
Awesome.
That's alot of quit in Frazzland.
Well Done!!!
Well done my friend, Well Done!
Proud of both of you.
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Posted on the KTC Facebook page - http://www.facebook.com/killthecanorg (http://www.facebook.com/killthecanorg) - earlier today:
Buffalo Bills Legend Jim Kelly to Undergo Surgery for Cancer in Jaw
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1659 ... cer-in-jaw (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1659872-buffalo-bills-legend-jim-kelly-to-undergo-surgery-for-cancer-in-jaw)
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Posted on the KTC Facebook page - http://www.facebook.com/killthecanorg (http://www.facebook.com/killthecanorg) - earlier today:
Buffalo Bills Legend Jim Kelly to Undergo Surgery for Cancer in Jaw
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1659 ... cer-in-jaw (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1659872-buffalo-bills-legend-jim-kelly-to-undergo-surgery-for-cancer-in-jaw)
I read similar story today and one of the comments was from a fan who said many times at preseason mini camps, Kelly would be dipping....
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Posted on the KTC Facebook page - http://www.facebook.com/killthecanorg (http://www.facebook.com/killthecanorg) - earlier today:
Buffalo Bills Legend Jim Kelly to Undergo Surgery for Cancer in Jaw
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1659 ... cer-in-jaw (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1659872-buffalo-bills-legend-jim-kelly-to-undergo-surgery-for-cancer-in-jaw)
I read similar story today and one of the comments was from a fan who said many times at preseason mini camps, Kelly would be dipping....
I read a few articles this am both him and his wife commenting. NOT ONCE was there a reference to dipping. That's horseshit. If he had lung cancer warnings about okong would be all over the article. Chew gets such a free pass and flies way too much under the radar (IMO).
He or his wife need to step out and call a spade a spade and not say "they"re just gonna cut out part of my jaw and ill be fine".
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Kellys' cancer is big news here in western New York. I would bet that Kelly was a dipper. His longtime center Kent Hull most defenitly was and lets face it Kelly fits the stereotype: male, athlete, outdoorsman. Needless to say the talk radio here is all cancer all the time, but I have not heard one mention of smokeless tobacco. Lots of talk about HPV and oral sex thanks to Michael Douglas, but strangely no mention on any media I have seen about tobacco. Not sure if people are unaware of the link or just do not want to think about a local hero doing this damage to himself...
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I wish he would come out and say if he dipped. I woke up yesterday and decided to quit because of his cancer and I thought... Why am I doing this to my self? So, I'm 1 1/2 days free!
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I wish he would come out and say if he dipped. I woke up yesterday and decided to quit because of his cancer and I thought... Why am I doing this to my self? So, I'm 1 1/2 days free!
Good Job Ace, and I am glad to see you posted roll as well. Now, go get into introductions and introduce yourself.
Lot's of quit in this place man, you walking into your freedom. Grab it and go
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New blog post: A Re-Review Of Jake's Mint Chew Kola
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/06/a-re ... chew-kola/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/06/a-re-review-of-jakes-mint-chew-kola/)
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I LOVE IT!!!! Damned if I do, Damed if I don't!
Bleeckerdogs 140 - I'm Screwed, I quit chewing for fear of cancer, Michael Douglas announced yestereday that his oral caner was caused by eating PUSSY. I refuse to give it up. There is just no way!
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Hey RTCG, I don't think it's the same risk factor for females as it is for males. Something about dudes having lesser resistance to hpv...
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New blog post: Ode To Day 70 - The Day Was Too Tough
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/06/ode- ... too-tough/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/06/ode-to-day-70-the-day-was-too-tough/)
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Interesting commonality in addictions (http://www.indiana.edu/%7Eengs/hints/addictiveb.html)
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hey guys, I quit dip today and need some help. I have what looks like a callous on my lower lip. it is white in color, there is no pain. I am very nervous and hoping someone has had this that can tell me if I'm alright. btw, I'm 18 and trying to go strong.
'Remshot'
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hey guys, I quit dip today and need some help. I have what looks like a callous on my lower lip. it is white in color, there is no pain. I am very nervous and hoping someone has had this that can tell me if I'm alright. btw, I'm 18 and trying to go strong.
'Remshot'
Go to the dentist and get it checked. It is most likely leukoplakia. You should be fine but STOP now while your ahead young brother. It'll be the best choice you ever made.
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hey guys, I quit dip today and need some help. I have what looks like a callous on my lower lip. it is white in color, there is no pain. I am very nervous and hoping someone has had this that can tell me if I'm alright. btw, I'm 18 and trying to go strong.
'Remshot'
Congratulations on taking your life back! Your best course of action is to have it checked out by your dentist asap. My white patch got better every day after I quit. After a month it was almost gone... Your body has an incredible ability to heal if you give it a chance.
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Btw. General discussion and all: this has been burnin my ass. Why does country music insist on glorifying dip. I'm a country fan, but after hearing the new Blake shelton song, boys round here, I'd like to drag him outside and administer an ass whoopin. I'm so tired of hearing chew be glorified. "Skoal ring" "Copenhagen smile" "pinch of Skoal" "chew ta-bacca" this shit should be demonized, not glorified!
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Btw. General discussion and all: this has been burnin my ass. Why does country music insist on glorifying dip. I'm a country fan, but after hearing the new Blake shelton song, boys round here, I'd like to drag him outside and administer an ass whoopin. I'm so tired of hearing chew be glorified. "Skoal ring" "Copenhagen smile" "pinch of Skoal" "chew ta-bacca" this shit should be demonized, not glorified!
Good words Fordtruckman! They build an image that all the young guys who want to be cool end up imitating and then wish they hadn't. There's NOTHING glorious or cool about dip. It kills . . . .
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Btw. General discussion and all: this has been burnin my ass. Why does country music insist on glorifying dip. I'm a country fan, but after hearing the new Blake shelton song, boys round here, I'd like to drag him outside and administer an ass whoopin. I'm so tired of hearing chew be glorified. "Skoal ring" "Copenhagen smile" "pinch of Skoal" "chew ta-bacca" this shit should be demonized, not glorified!
Good words Fordtruckman! They build an image that all the young guys who want to be cool end up imitating and then wish they hadn't. There's NOTHING glorious or cool about dip. It kills . . . .
x2!!!! US Smokeless could be doing some backdoor advertising here????? Wouldn't put it past those scumbags!!!
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Btw. General discussion and all: this has been burnin my ass. Why does country music insist on glorifying dip. I'm a country fan, but after hearing the new Blake shelton song, boys round here, I'd like to drag him outside and administer an ass whoopin. I'm so tired of hearing chew be glorified. "Skoal ring" "Copenhagen smile" "pinch of Skoal" "chew ta-bacca" this shit should be demonized, not glorified!
Good words Fordtruckman! They build an image that all the young guys who want to be cool end up imitating and then wish they hadn't. There's NOTHING glorious or cool about dip. It kills . . . .
x2!!!! US Smokeless could be doing some backdoor advertising here????? Wouldn't put it past those scumbags!!!
Who is Fordtruckman? I am a fan. Well said quit brother. Well said!
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So now here comes the Irony. Not sure if you have seen this commercial but the war on tobacco just stepped up.
Bullshit Commercial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGAhXv23MEs)
Good looking guy "The kind of guy everyone likes to be around" with some attitude saying that he is tired of feeling guilty because he wants to smoke? He is rallying all the nicotine addicts to "Take back Their Freedom"
FUCK THEM. They lie, deceive and don't give a shit about you as a customer. They want you hooked. Freedom is not adjusting your day/life to get a fix.
I no longer am forced take drives to get away from family to hump a nic bitch. I no longer accidentally drink out of a diet coke spittoon thinking it was my diet coke.
I no longer lie so I can go to the gas station to get my drug of choice. Nicotine you lying bitch. You were and are a captor and enslave good people to lie, deny and be less of a person. Numb them to cope and not achieve. Bullshit! Serving nictoine is pointless and the opposite of freedom.
Each blu cig has 24 gms of nicotine. That means its addictive and they want to take your freedom back. Healthy alternative? How about just being quit?
I quit and don't need to take back my freedom because today,
I AM FREE
Seriously UST, the supporters and sympathizers....FUCK YOU! 'Finger'
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So now here comes the Irony. Not sure if you have seen this commercial but the war on tobacco just stepped up.
Bullshit Commercial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGAhXv23MEs)
Good looking guy "The kind of guy everyone likes to be around" with some attitude saying that he is tired of feeling guilty because he wants to smoke? He is rallying all the nicotine addicts to "Take back Their Freedom"
FUCK THEM. They lie, deceive and don't give a shit about you as a customer. They want you hooked. Freedom is not adjusting your day/life to get a fix.
I no longer am forced take drives to get away from family to hump a nic bitch. I no longer accidentally drink out of a diet coke spittoon thinking it was my diet coke.
I no longer lie so I can go to the gas station to get my drug of choice. Nicotine you lying bitch. You were and are a captor and enslave good people to lie, deny and be less of a person. Numb them to cope and not achieve. Bullshit! Serving nictoine is pointless and the opposite of freedom.
Each blu cig has 24 gms of nicotine. That means its addictive and they want to take your freedom back. Healthy alternative? How about just being quit?
I quit and don't need to take back my freedom because today,
I AM FREE
Seriously UST, the supporters and sympathizers....FUCK YOU! 'Finger'
What a load of crap
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So now here comes the Irony. Not sure if you have seen this commercial but the war on tobacco just stepped up.Â
Bullshit Commercial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGAhXv23MEs)
Good looking guy "The kind of guy everyone likes to be around" with some attitude saying that he is tired of feeling guilty because he wants to smoke? He is rallying all the nicotine addicts to "Take back Their Freedom"Â
FUCK THEM. They lie, deceive and don't give a shit about you as a customer. They want you hooked. Freedom is not adjusting your day/life to get a fix.Â
I no longer am forced take drives to get away from family to hump a nic bitch. I no longer accidentally drink out of a diet coke spittoon thinking it was my diet coke.
I no longer lie so I can go to the gas station to get my drug of choice. Nicotine you lying bitch. You were and are a captor and enslave good people to lie, deny and be less of a person. Numb them to cope and not achieve. Bullshit! Serving nictoine is pointless and the opposite of freedom.   Â
Each blu cig has 24 gms of nicotine. That means its addictive and they want to take your freedom back. Healthy alternative? How about just being quit? Â
I quit and don't need to take back my freedom because today,Â
I AM FREE
Seriously UST, the supporters and sympathizers....FUCK YOU! 'Finger'
What a load of crap
Might as well as put a nicotine syringe in your arm. What a line of bullshit!!! I keep getting emails offering me free E cig kits. Fuckers!!!!
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So now here comes the Irony. Not sure if you have seen this commercial but the war on tobacco just stepped up.Â
Bullshit Commercial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGAhXv23MEs)
Good looking guy "The kind of guy everyone likes to be around" with some attitude saying that he is tired of feeling guilty because he wants to smoke? He is rallying all the nicotine addicts to "Take back Their Freedom"Â
FUCK THEM. They lie, deceive and don't give a shit about you as a customer. They want you hooked. Freedom is not adjusting your day/life to get a fix.Â
I no longer am forced take drives to get away from family to hump a nic bitch. I no longer accidentally drink out of a diet coke spittoon thinking it was my diet coke.
I no longer lie so I can go to the gas station to get my drug of choice. Nicotine you lying bitch. You were and are a captor and enslave good people to lie, deny and be less of a person. Numb them to cope and not achieve. Bullshit! Serving nictoine is pointless and the opposite of freedom.   Â
Each blu cig has 24 gms of nicotine. That means its addictive and they want to take your freedom back. Healthy alternative? How about just being quit? Â
I quit and don't need to take back my freedom because today,Â
I AM FREE
Seriously UST, the supporters and sympathizers....FUCK YOU! 'Finger'
What a load of crap
Might as well as put a nicotine syringe in your arm. What a line of bullshit!!! I keep getting emails offering me free E cig kits. Fuckers!!!!
I have a friend that "quit smoking" a few months ago. She is the mom of my son's buddy at school. She has turned to the e-cig as an alternative and is now profoundly addicted to nicotine even way beyond what she was as a smoker. Some of her friends call it her crack pipe. They are only kidding her in a friendly way but there is really nothing funny about it all. For months now I have not seen her without it in her hand. She takes a long drag every minute or two, sometimes more. My heart is so saddened for her, and I fear there is now no way out for her. She proclaims to be happy and proud of herself for quitting smoking. Wish I knew how to approach her
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So now here comes the Irony. Not sure if you have seen this commercial but the war on tobacco just stepped up.Â
Bullshit Commercial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGAhXv23MEs)
Good looking guy "The kind of guy everyone likes to be around" with some attitude saying that he is tired of feeling guilty because he wants to smoke? He is rallying all the nicotine addicts to "Take back Their Freedom"Â
FUCK THEM. They lie, deceive and don't give a shit about you as a customer. They want you hooked. Freedom is not adjusting your day/life to get a fix.Â
I no longer am forced take drives to get away from family to hump a nic bitch. I no longer accidentally drink out of a diet coke spittoon thinking it was my diet coke.
I no longer lie so I can go to the gas station to get my drug of choice. Nicotine you lying bitch. You were and are a captor and enslave good people to lie, deny and be less of a person. Numb them to cope and not achieve. Bullshit! Serving nictoine is pointless and the opposite of freedom.   Â
Each blu cig has 24 gms of nicotine. That means its addictive and they want to take your freedom back. Healthy alternative? How about just being quit? Â
I quit and don't need to take back my freedom because today,Â
I AM FREE
Seriously UST, the supporters and sympathizers....FUCK YOU! 'Finger'
What a load of crap
Might as well as put a nicotine syringe in your arm. What a line of bullshit!!! I keep getting emails offering me free E cig kits. Fuckers!!!!
I have a friend that "quit smoking" a few months ago. She is the mom of my son's buddy at school. She has turned to the e-cig as an alternative and is now profoundly addicted to nicotine even way beyond what she was as a smoker. Some of her friends call it her crack pipe. They are only kidding her in a friendly way but there is really nothing funny about it all. For months now I have not seen her without it in her hand. She takes a long drag every minute or two, sometimes more. My heart is so saddened for her, and I fear there is now no way out for her. She proclaims to be happy and proud of herself for quitting smoking. Wish I knew how to approach her
Stockholm syndrome, or capture–bonding, is a psychological phenomenon in which hostages express empathy and sympathy and have positive feelings toward their captors, sometimes to the point of defending them. These feelings are generally considered irrational in light of the danger or risk endured by the victims, who essentially mistake a lack of abuse from their captors for an act of kindness. The FBI's Hostage Barricade Database System shows that roughly 27% of victims show evidence of Stockholm syndrome.
Stockholm syndrome can be seen as a form of traumatic bonding, which does not necessarily require a hostage scenario, but which describes “strong emotional ties that develop between two persons where one person intermittently harasses, beats, threatens, abuses, or intimidates the other.” One commonly used hypothesis to explain the effect of Stockholm syndrome is based on Freudian theory. It suggests that the bonding is the individual’s response to trauma in becoming a victim. Identifying with the aggressor is one way that the ego defends itself. When a victim believes the same values as the aggressor, they cease to be a threat.
So Mr. Too Cool is tired of feeling guilty for "wanting a smoke"?
HA!
He wants people to validate his behavior.
You see, his whole existence is dependent upon fitting in with people. He doesn't even know who he is anymore because this "smoking" fad is making him an outcast now. He's afraid to be himself as a user, and he's afraid to be free. He's a "victim" because people don't approve of his behavior.
True freedom is being who you want to be.
If you want to be a user, ain't nobody stopping you. Quitting and using both require a decision, and actions to back that decision up. As a quitter, I choose to show up here everyday. As a quitter, I choose to plan to be quit. As a quitter, I follow through on my actions.
This man is not free. He has simply put up some nice drapes and some hippy beads over the bars in his cell. He's looking out the window and telling the people on the outside how nice his prison is. He doesn't know that he can leave anytime he wants because he's "content".
I took back my freedom.
He found a nicer cell.
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So now here comes the Irony. Not sure if you have seen this commercial but the war on tobacco just stepped up.Â
Bullshit Commercial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGAhXv23MEs)
Good looking guy "The kind of guy everyone likes to be around" with some attitude saying that he is tired of feeling guilty because he wants to smoke? He is rallying all the nicotine addicts to "Take back Their Freedom"Â
FUCK THEM. They lie, deceive and don't give a shit about you as a customer. They want you hooked. Freedom is not adjusting your day/life to get a fix.Â
I no longer am forced take drives to get away from family to hump a nic bitch. I no longer accidentally drink out of a diet coke spittoon thinking it was my diet coke.
I no longer lie so I can go to the gas station to get my drug of choice. Nicotine you lying bitch. You were and are a captor and enslave good people to lie, deny and be less of a person. Numb them to cope and not achieve. Bullshit! Serving nictoine is pointless and the opposite of freedom.   Â
Each blu cig has 24 gms of nicotine. That means its addictive and they want to take your freedom back. Healthy alternative? How about just being quit? Â
I quit and don't need to take back my freedom because today,Â
I AM FREE
Seriously UST, the supporters and sympathizers....FUCK YOU! 'Finger'
What a load of crap
Might as well as put a nicotine syringe in your arm. What a line of bullshit!!! I keep getting emails offering me free E cig kits. Fuckers!!!!
I have a friend that "quit smoking" a few months ago. She is the mom of my son's buddy at school. She has turned to the e-cig as an alternative and is now profoundly addicted to nicotine even way beyond what she was as a smoker. Some of her friends call it her crack pipe. They are only kidding her in a friendly way but there is really nothing funny about it all. For months now I have not seen her without it in her hand. She takes a long drag every minute or two, sometimes more. My heart is so saddened for her, and I fear there is now no way out for her. She proclaims to be happy and proud of herself for quitting smoking. Wish I knew how to approach her
Stockholm syndrome, or capture–bonding, is a psychological phenomenon in which hostages express empathy and sympathy and have positive feelings toward their captors, sometimes to the point of defending them. These feelings are generally considered irrational in light of the danger or risk endured by the victims, who essentially mistake a lack of abuse from their captors for an act of kindness. The FBI's Hostage Barricade Database System shows that roughly 27% of victims show evidence of Stockholm syndrome.
Stockholm syndrome can be seen as a form of traumatic bonding, which does not necessarily require a hostage scenario, but which describes “strong emotional ties that develop between two persons where one person intermittently harasses, beats, threatens, abuses, or intimidates the other.” One commonly used hypothesis to explain the effect of Stockholm syndrome is based on Freudian theory. It suggests that the bonding is the individual’s response to trauma in becoming a victim. Identifying with the aggressor is one way that the ego defends itself. When a victim believes the same values as the aggressor, they cease to be a threat.
So Mr. Too Cool is tired of feeling guilty for "wanting a smoke"?
HA!
He wants people to validate his behavior.
You see, his whole existence is dependent upon fitting in with people. He doesn't even know who he is anymore because this "smoking" fad is making him an outcast now. He's afraid to be himself as a user, and he's afraid to be free. He's a "victim" because people don't approve of his behavior.
True freedom is being who you want to be.
If you want to be a user, ain't nobody stopping you. Quitting and using both require a decision, and actions to back that decision up. As a quitter, I choose to show up here everyday. As a quitter, I choose to plan to be quit. As a quitter, I follow through on my actions.
This man is not free. He has simply put up some nice drapes and some hippy beads over the bars in his cell. He's looking out the window and telling the people on the outside how nice his prison is. He doesn't know that he can leave anytime he wants because he's "content".
I took back my freedom.
He found a nicer cell.
I dunno what the answer is. I was able to get a buddy here and he Quit. He doesn't post roll, but he bought into the acountability thing.
He was ready.
I have another freind who still smokes. Last time I talked to him, he gave me the, 'I just really like smoking' BS.
He's not ready.
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So now here comes the Irony. Not sure if you have seen this commercial but the war on tobacco just stepped up.Â
Bullshit Commercial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGAhXv23MEs)
Good looking guy "The kind of guy everyone likes to be around" with some attitude saying that he is tired of feeling guilty because he wants to smoke? He is rallying all the nicotine addicts to "Take back Their Freedom"Â
FUCK THEM. They lie, deceive and don't give a shit about you as a customer. They want you hooked. Freedom is not adjusting your day/life to get a fix.Â
I no longer am forced take drives to get away from family to hump a nic bitch. I no longer accidentally drink out of a diet coke spittoon thinking it was my diet coke.
I no longer lie so I can go to the gas station to get my drug of choice. Nicotine you lying bitch. You were and are a captor and enslave good people to lie, deny and be less of a person. Numb them to cope and not achieve. Bullshit! Serving nictoine is pointless and the opposite of freedom.   Â
Each blu cig has 24 gms of nicotine. That means its addictive and they want to take your freedom back. Healthy alternative? How about just being quit? Â
I quit and don't need to take back my freedom because today,Â
I AM FREE
Seriously UST, the supporters and sympathizers....FUCK YOU! 'Finger'
What a load of crap
Might as well as put a nicotine syringe in your arm. What a line of bullshit!!! I keep getting emails offering me free E cig kits. Fuckers!!!!
I have a friend that "quit smoking" a few months ago. She is the mom of my son's buddy at school. She has turned to the e-cig as an alternative and is now profoundly addicted to nicotine even way beyond what she was as a smoker. Some of her friends call it her crack pipe. They are only kidding her in a friendly way but there is really nothing funny about it all. For months now I have not seen her without it in her hand. She takes a long drag every minute or two, sometimes more. My heart is so saddened for her, and I fear there is now no way out for her. She proclaims to be happy and proud of herself for quitting smoking. Wish I knew how to approach her
Stockholm syndrome, or capture–bonding, is a psychological phenomenon in which hostages express empathy and sympathy and have positive feelings toward their captors, sometimes to the point of defending them. These feelings are generally considered irrational in light of the danger or risk endured by the victims, who essentially mistake a lack of abuse from their captors for an act of kindness. The FBI's Hostage Barricade Database System shows that roughly 27% of victims show evidence of Stockholm syndrome.
Stockholm syndrome can be seen as a form of traumatic bonding, which does not necessarily require a hostage scenario, but which describes “strong emotional ties that develop between two persons where one person intermittently harasses, beats, threatens, abuses, or intimidates the other.” One commonly used hypothesis to explain the effect of Stockholm syndrome is based on Freudian theory. It suggests that the bonding is the individual’s response to trauma in becoming a victim. Identifying with the aggressor is one way that the ego defends itself. When a victim believes the same values as the aggressor, they cease to be a threat.
So Mr. Too Cool is tired of feeling guilty for "wanting a smoke"?
HA!
He wants people to validate his behavior.
You see, his whole existence is dependent upon fitting in with people. He doesn't even know who he is anymore because this "smoking" fad is making him an outcast now. He's afraid to be himself as a user, and he's afraid to be free. He's a "victim" because people don't approve of his behavior.
True freedom is being who you want to be.
If you want to be a user, ain't nobody stopping you. Quitting and using both require a decision, and actions to back that decision up. As a quitter, I choose to show up here everyday. As a quitter, I choose to plan to be quit. As a quitter, I follow through on my actions.
This man is not free. He has simply put up some nice drapes and some hippy beads over the bars in his cell. He's looking out the window and telling the people on the outside how nice his prison is. He doesn't know that he can leave anytime he wants because he's "content".
I took back my freedom.
He found a nicer cell.
I dunno what the answer is. I was able to get a buddy here and he Quit. He doesn't post roll, but he bought into the acountability thing.
He was ready.
I have another freind who still smokes. Last time I talked to him, he gave me the, 'I just really like smoking' BS.
He's not ready.
Switching shackles doesn't set a person free!
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New blog post: Social Media And The Quitter
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/06/soci ... e-quitter/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/06/social-media-and-the-quitter/)
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New blog post: Social Media And The Quitter
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/06/soci ... e-quitter/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/06/social-media-and-the-quitter/)
Awesome. Just saw the pic of the cake. That thing is kickass.
Thanks for sharing chews2002.
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New blog post:Â Social Media And The Quitter
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/06/soci ... e-quitter/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/06/social-media-and-the-quitter/)
Awesome. Just saw the pic of the cake. That thing is kickass.
Thanks for sharing chews2002.
Yep... that cake was pretty tremendous wasn't it?
Amazing some of the support that's given. Amazing indeed.
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New blog post: Even After 7 Years, I Still Fear Cancer
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/06/even ... ar-cancer/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/06/even-after-7-years-i-still-fear-cancer/)
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So now here comes the Irony. Not sure if you have seen this commercial but the war on tobacco just stepped up.Â
Bullshit Commercial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGAhXv23MEs)
Good looking guy "The kind of guy everyone likes to be around" with some attitude saying that he is tired of feeling guilty because he wants to smoke? He is rallying all the nicotine addicts to "Take back Their Freedom"Â
FUCK THEM. They lie, deceive and don't give a shit about you as a customer. They want you hooked. Freedom is not adjusting your day/life to get a fix.Â
I no longer am forced take drives to get away from family to hump a nic bitch. I no longer accidentally drink out of a diet coke spittoon thinking it was my diet coke.
I no longer lie so I can go to the gas station to get my drug of choice. Nicotine you lying bitch. You were and are a captor and enslave good people to lie, deny and be less of a person. Numb them to cope and not achieve. Bullshit! Serving nictoine is pointless and the opposite of freedom.   Â
Each blu cig has 24 gms of nicotine. That means its addictive and they want to take your freedom back. Healthy alternative? How about just being quit? Â
I quit and don't need to take back my freedom because today,Â
I AM FREE
Seriously UST, the supporters and sympathizers....FUCK YOU! 'Finger'
What a load of crap
Might as well as put a nicotine syringe in your arm. What a line of bullshit!!! I keep getting emails offering me free E cig kits. Fuckers!!!!
I have a friend that "quit smoking" a few months ago. She is the mom of my son's buddy at school. She has turned to the e-cig as an alternative and is now profoundly addicted to nicotine even way beyond what she was as a smoker. Some of her friends call it her crack pipe. They are only kidding her in a friendly way but there is really nothing funny about it all. For months now I have not seen her without it in her hand. She takes a long drag every minute or two, sometimes more. My heart is so saddened for her, and I fear there is now no way out for her. She proclaims to be happy and proud of herself for quitting smoking. Wish I knew how to approach her
Stockholm syndrome, or capture–bonding, is a psychological phenomenon in which hostages express empathy and sympathy and have positive feelings toward their captors, sometimes to the point of defending them. These feelings are generally considered irrational in light of the danger or risk endured by the victims, who essentially mistake a lack of abuse from their captors for an act of kindness. The FBI's Hostage Barricade Database System shows that roughly 27% of victims show evidence of Stockholm syndrome.
Stockholm syndrome can be seen as a form of traumatic bonding, which does not necessarily require a hostage scenario, but which describes “strong emotional ties that develop between two persons where one person intermittently harasses, beats, threatens, abuses, or intimidates the other.” One commonly used hypothesis to explain the effect of Stockholm syndrome is based on Freudian theory. It suggests that the bonding is the individual’s response to trauma in becoming a victim. Identifying with the aggressor is one way that the ego defends itself. When a victim believes the same values as the aggressor, they cease to be a threat.
So Mr. Too Cool is tired of feeling guilty for "wanting a smoke"?
HA!
He wants people to validate his behavior.
You see, his whole existence is dependent upon fitting in with people. He doesn't even know who he is anymore because this "smoking" fad is making him an outcast now. He's afraid to be himself as a user, and he's afraid to be free. He's a "victim" because people don't approve of his behavior.
True freedom is being who you want to be.
If you want to be a user, ain't nobody stopping you. Quitting and using both require a decision, and actions to back that decision up. As a quitter, I choose to show up here everyday. As a quitter, I choose to plan to be quit. As a quitter, I follow through on my actions.
This man is not free. He has simply put up some nice drapes and some hippy beads over the bars in his cell. He's looking out the window and telling the people on the outside how nice his prison is. He doesn't know that he can leave anytime he wants because he's "content".
I took back my freedom.
He found a nicer cell.
I dunno what the answer is. I was able to get a buddy here and he Quit. He doesn't post roll, but he bought into the acountability thing.
He was ready.
I have another freind who still smokes. Last time I talked to him, he gave me the, 'I just really like smoking' BS.
He's not ready.
Switching shackles doesn't set a person free!
Keddy, that's a cool statement. I am going to be out of town where internet and cell phones do not exist. Forgive me for looking forward but the only way you can gauge a mans future is to look at his past. I think I'm safe to congratulate you on 4 digits.
Just wanted to say,
Thank you for quitting every damn day with us!
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So now here comes the Irony. Not sure if you have seen this commercial but the war on tobacco just stepped up.Â
Bullshit Commercial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGAhXv23MEs)
Good looking guy "The kind of guy everyone likes to be around" with some attitude saying that he is tired of feeling guilty because he wants to smoke? He is rallying all the nicotine addicts to "Take back Their Freedom"Â
FUCK THEM. They lie, deceive and don't give a shit about you as a customer. They want you hooked. Freedom is not adjusting your day/life to get a fix.Â
I no longer am forced take drives to get away from family to hump a nic bitch. I no longer accidentally drink out of a diet coke spittoon thinking it was my diet coke.
I no longer lie so I can go to the gas station to get my drug of choice. Nicotine you lying bitch. You were and are a captor and enslave good people to lie, deny and be less of a person. Numb them to cope and not achieve. Bullshit! Serving nictoine is pointless and the opposite of freedom.   Â
Each blu cig has 24 gms of nicotine. That means its addictive and they want to take your freedom back. Healthy alternative? How about just being quit? Â
I quit and don't need to take back my freedom because today,Â
I AM FREE
Seriously UST, the supporters and sympathizers....FUCK YOU! 'Finger'
What a load of crap
Might as well as put a nicotine syringe in your arm. What a line of bullshit!!! I keep getting emails offering me free E cig kits. Fuckers!!!!
I have a friend that "quit smoking" a few months ago. She is the mom of my son's buddy at school. She has turned to the e-cig as an alternative and is now profoundly addicted to nicotine even way beyond what she was as a smoker. Some of her friends call it her crack pipe. They are only kidding her in a friendly way but there is really nothing funny about it all. For months now I have not seen her without it in her hand. She takes a long drag every minute or two, sometimes more. My heart is so saddened for her, and I fear there is now no way out for her. She proclaims to be happy and proud of herself for quitting smoking. Wish I knew how to approach her
Stockholm syndrome, or capture–bonding, is a psychological phenomenon in which hostages express empathy and sympathy and have positive feelings toward their captors, sometimes to the point of defending them. These feelings are generally considered irrational in light of the danger or risk endured by the victims, who essentially mistake a lack of abuse from their captors for an act of kindness. The FBI's Hostage Barricade Database System shows that roughly 27% of victims show evidence of Stockholm syndrome.
Stockholm syndrome can be seen as a form of traumatic bonding, which does not necessarily require a hostage scenario, but which describes “strong emotional ties that develop between two persons where one person intermittently harasses, beats, threatens, abuses, or intimidates the other.” One commonly used hypothesis to explain the effect of Stockholm syndrome is based on Freudian theory. It suggests that the bonding is the individual’s response to trauma in becoming a victim. Identifying with the aggressor is one way that the ego defends itself. When a victim believes the same values as the aggressor, they cease to be a threat.
So Mr. Too Cool is tired of feeling guilty for "wanting a smoke"?
HA!
He wants people to validate his behavior.
You see, his whole existence is dependent upon fitting in with people. He doesn't even know who he is anymore because this "smoking" fad is making him an outcast now. He's afraid to be himself as a user, and he's afraid to be free. He's a "victim" because people don't approve of his behavior.
True freedom is being who you want to be.
If you want to be a user, ain't nobody stopping you. Quitting and using both require a decision, and actions to back that decision up. As a quitter, I choose to show up here everyday. As a quitter, I choose to plan to be quit. As a quitter, I follow through on my actions.
This man is not free. He has simply put up some nice drapes and some hippy beads over the bars in his cell. He's looking out the window and telling the people on the outside how nice his prison is. He doesn't know that he can leave anytime he wants because he's "content".
I took back my freedom.
He found a nicer cell.
I dunno what the answer is. I was able to get a buddy here and he Quit. He doesn't post roll, but he bought into the acountability thing.
He was ready.
I have another freind who still smokes. Last time I talked to him, he gave me the, 'I just really like smoking' BS.
He's not ready.
Switching shackles doesn't set a person free!
Keddy, that's a cool statement. I am going to be out of town where internet and cell phones do not exist. Forgive me for looking forward but the only way you can gauge a mans future is to look at his past. I think I'm safe to congratulate you on 4 digits.
Just wanted to say,
Thank you for quitting every damn day with us!
Thanks MT! I don't take any day for granted but I do have my sights on the comma. It's my privilege to quit with you guys.
Where are you going?
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So now here comes the Irony. Not sure if you have seen this commercial but the war on tobacco just stepped up.Â
Bullshit Commercial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGAhXv23MEs)
Good looking guy "The kind of guy everyone likes to be around" with some attitude saying that he is tired of feeling guilty because he wants to smoke? He is rallying all the nicotine addicts to "Take back Their Freedom"Â
FUCK THEM. They lie, deceive and don't give a shit about you as a customer. They want you hooked. Freedom is not adjusting your day/life to get a fix.Â
I no longer am forced take drives to get away from family to hump a nic bitch. I no longer accidentally drink out of a diet coke spittoon thinking it was my diet coke.
I no longer lie so I can go to the gas station to get my drug of choice. Nicotine you lying bitch. You were and are a captor and enslave good people to lie, deny and be less of a person. Numb them to cope and not achieve. Bullshit! Serving nictoine is pointless and the opposite of freedom.   Â
Each blu cig has 24 gms of nicotine. That means its addictive and they want to take your freedom back. Healthy alternative? How about just being quit? Â
I quit and don't need to take back my freedom because today,Â
I AM FREE
Seriously UST, the supporters and sympathizers....FUCK YOU! 'Finger'
What a load of crap
Might as well as put a nicotine syringe in your arm. What a line of bullshit!!! I keep getting emails offering me free E cig kits. Fuckers!!!!
I have a friend that "quit smoking" a few months ago. She is the mom of my son's buddy at school. She has turned to the e-cig as an alternative and is now profoundly addicted to nicotine even way beyond what she was as a smoker. Some of her friends call it her crack pipe. They are only kidding her in a friendly way but there is really nothing funny about it all. For months now I have not seen her without it in her hand. She takes a long drag every minute or two, sometimes more. My heart is so saddened for her, and I fear there is now no way out for her. She proclaims to be happy and proud of herself for quitting smoking. Wish I knew how to approach her
Stockholm syndrome, or capture–bonding, is a psychological phenomenon in which hostages express empathy and sympathy and have positive feelings toward their captors, sometimes to the point of defending them. These feelings are generally considered irrational in light of the danger or risk endured by the victims, who essentially mistake a lack of abuse from their captors for an act of kindness. The FBI's Hostage Barricade Database System shows that roughly 27% of victims show evidence of Stockholm syndrome.
Stockholm syndrome can be seen as a form of traumatic bonding, which does not necessarily require a hostage scenario, but which describes “strong emotional ties that develop between two persons where one person intermittently harasses, beats, threatens, abuses, or intimidates the other.” One commonly used hypothesis to explain the effect of Stockholm syndrome is based on Freudian theory. It suggests that the bonding is the individual’s response to trauma in becoming a victim. Identifying with the aggressor is one way that the ego defends itself. When a victim believes the same values as the aggressor, they cease to be a threat.
So Mr. Too Cool is tired of feeling guilty for "wanting a smoke"?
HA!
He wants people to validate his behavior.
You see, his whole existence is dependent upon fitting in with people. He doesn't even know who he is anymore because this "smoking" fad is making him an outcast now. He's afraid to be himself as a user, and he's afraid to be free. He's a "victim" because people don't approve of his behavior.
True freedom is being who you want to be.
If you want to be a user, ain't nobody stopping you. Quitting and using both require a decision, and actions to back that decision up. As a quitter, I choose to show up here everyday. As a quitter, I choose to plan to be quit. As a quitter, I follow through on my actions.
This man is not free. He has simply put up some nice drapes and some hippy beads over the bars in his cell. He's looking out the window and telling the people on the outside how nice his prison is. He doesn't know that he can leave anytime he wants because he's "content".
I took back my freedom.
He found a nicer cell.
I dunno what the answer is. I was able to get a buddy here and he Quit. He doesn't post roll, but he bought into the acountability thing.
He was ready.
I have another freind who still smokes. Last time I talked to him, he gave me the, 'I just really like smoking' BS.
He's not ready.
Switching shackles doesn't set a person free!
Keddy, that's a cool statement. I am going to be out of town where internet and cell phones do not exist. Forgive me for looking forward but the only way you can gauge a mans future is to look at his past. I think I'm safe to congratulate you on 4 digits.
Just wanted to say,
Thank you for quitting every damn day with us!
Thanks MT! I don't take any day for granted but I do have my sights on the comma. It's my privilege to quit with you guys.
Where are you going?
I am very anti-nrt. My mother was diagnosed with emphysema and started chewing the gum. She chewed it up to her death, litteraly. The nurse found several pieces of it in her mouth after she had died.
I hate tobacco companies, I hate "therapists" that believe you can change the delivery method of a drug/talk about it.
I love this site.
-
So now here comes the Irony. Not sure if you have seen this commercial but the war on tobacco just stepped up.Â
Bullshit Commercial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGAhXv23MEs)
Good looking guy "The kind of guy everyone likes to be around" with some attitude saying that he is tired of feeling guilty because he wants to smoke? He is rallying all the nicotine addicts to "Take back Their Freedom"Â
FUCK THEM. They lie, deceive and don't give a shit about you as a customer. They want you hooked. Freedom is not adjusting your day/life to get a fix.Â
I no longer am forced take drives to get away from family to hump a nic bitch. I no longer accidentally drink out of a diet coke spittoon thinking it was my diet coke.
I no longer lie so I can go to the gas station to get my drug of choice. Nicotine you lying bitch. You were and are a captor and enslave good people to lie, deny and be less of a person. Numb them to cope and not achieve. Bullshit! Serving nictoine is pointless and the opposite of freedom.   Â
Each blu cig has 24 gms of nicotine. That means its addictive and they want to take your freedom back. Healthy alternative? How about just being quit? Â
I quit and don't need to take back my freedom because today,Â
I AM FREE
Seriously UST, the supporters and sympathizers....FUCK YOU! 'Finger'
What a load of crap
Might as well as put a nicotine syringe in your arm. What a line of bullshit!!! I keep getting emails offering me free E cig kits. Fuckers!!!!
I have a friend that "quit smoking" a few months ago. She is the mom of my son's buddy at school. She has turned to the e-cig as an alternative and is now profoundly addicted to nicotine even way beyond what she was as a smoker. Some of her friends call it her crack pipe. They are only kidding her in a friendly way but there is really nothing funny about it all. For months now I have not seen her without it in her hand. She takes a long drag every minute or two, sometimes more. My heart is so saddened for her, and I fear there is now no way out for her. She proclaims to be happy and proud of herself for quitting smoking. Wish I knew how to approach her
Stockholm syndrome, or capture–bonding, is a psychological phenomenon in which hostages express empathy and sympathy and have positive feelings toward their captors, sometimes to the point of defending them. These feelings are generally considered irrational in light of the danger or risk endured by the victims, who essentially mistake a lack of abuse from their captors for an act of kindness. The FBI's Hostage Barricade Database System shows that roughly 27% of victims show evidence of Stockholm syndrome.
Stockholm syndrome can be seen as a form of traumatic bonding, which does not necessarily require a hostage scenario, but which describes “strong emotional ties that develop between two persons where one person intermittently harasses, beats, threatens, abuses, or intimidates the other.” One commonly used hypothesis to explain the effect of Stockholm syndrome is based on Freudian theory. It suggests that the bonding is the individual’s response to trauma in becoming a victim. Identifying with the aggressor is one way that the ego defends itself. When a victim believes the same values as the aggressor, they cease to be a threat.
So Mr. Too Cool is tired of feeling guilty for "wanting a smoke"?
HA!
He wants people to validate his behavior.
You see, his whole existence is dependent upon fitting in with people. He doesn't even know who he is anymore because this "smoking" fad is making him an outcast now. He's afraid to be himself as a user, and he's afraid to be free. He's a "victim" because people don't approve of his behavior.
True freedom is being who you want to be.
If you want to be a user, ain't nobody stopping you. Quitting and using both require a decision, and actions to back that decision up. As a quitter, I choose to show up here everyday. As a quitter, I choose to plan to be quit. As a quitter, I follow through on my actions.
This man is not free. He has simply put up some nice drapes and some hippy beads over the bars in his cell. He's looking out the window and telling the people on the outside how nice his prison is. He doesn't know that he can leave anytime he wants because he's "content".
I took back my freedom.
He found a nicer cell.
I dunno what the answer is. I was able to get a buddy here and he Quit. He doesn't post roll, but he bought into the acountability thing.
He was ready.
I have another freind who still smokes. Last time I talked to him, he gave me the, 'I just really like smoking' BS.
He's not ready.
Switching shackles doesn't set a person free!
Keddy, that's a cool statement. I am going to be out of town where internet and cell phones do not exist. Forgive me for looking forward but the only way you can gauge a mans future is to look at his past. I think I'm safe to congratulate you on 4 digits.
Just wanted to say,
Thank you for quitting every damn day with us!
Thanks MT! I don't take any day for granted but I do have my sights on the comma. It's my privilege to quit with you guys.
Where are you going?
I am very anti-nrt. My mother was diagnosed with emphysema and started chewing the gum. She chewed it up to her death, litteraly. The nurse found several pieces of it in her mouth after she had died.
I hate tobacco companies, I hate "therapists" that believe you can change the delivery method of a drug/talk about it.
I love this site.
I've seen these in the store but the only box of cartridges available at that store clearly said no nicotine. I never smoked but for those who did, would you all agree if there is no nic, it would be acceptable? It seems like the same idea as fake chew. Any thoughts?
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I've seen these in the store but the only box of cartridges available at that store clearly said no nicotine. I never smoked but for those who did, would you all agree if there is no nic, it would be acceptable? It seems like the same idea as fake chew. Any thoughts?
My personal opinion here...
If a product... any product... is no nicotine and no tobacco, then it's a completely acceptable tool to use while posting roll here.
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I've seen these in the store but the only box of cartridges available at that store clearly said no nicotine. I never smoked but for those who did, would you all agree if there is no nic, it would be acceptable? It seems like the same idea as fake chew. Any thoughts?
My personal opinion here...
If a product... any product... is no nicotine and no tobacco, then it's a completely acceptable tool to use while posting roll here.
I would agree with Chews. But for some reason, I have a harder time accepting the use of fake cigs. Don't know why. Just seems like it would be harder to put down once you made it through the roughest part of quitting.
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I've seen these in the store but the only box of cartridges available at that store clearly said no nicotine. I never smoked but for those who did, would you all agree if there is no nic, it would be acceptable? It seems like the same idea as fake chew. Any thoughts?
My personal opinion here...
If a product... any product... is no nicotine and no tobacco, then it's a completely acceptable tool to use while posting roll here.
I would agree with Chews. But for some reason, I have a harder time accepting the use of fake cigs. Don't know why. Just seems like it would be harder to put down once you made it through the roughest part of quitting.
day one behind me its been very hard but i just keep saying i will get through next hour ! ^_^
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I've seen these in the store but the only box of cartridges available at that store clearly said no nicotine. I never smoked but for those who did, would you all agree if there is no nic, it would be acceptable? It seems like the same idea as fake chew. Any thoughts?
My personal opinion here...
If a product... any product... is no nicotine and no tobacco, then it's a completely acceptable tool to use while posting roll here.
I would agree with Chews. But for some reason, I have a harder time accepting the use of fake cigs. Don't know why. Just seems like it would be harder to put down once you made it through the roughest part of quitting.
day one behind me its been very hard but i just keep saying i will get through next hour ! ^_^
Hour, minute, second whatever it takes bccam...Post roll and honor your word EFDD!!! Have you found your quit group yet? I'll pm you my number and let's get to quitting.
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Hey, I'm new here and didnt really want to do an introduction cause I'm probablya bad influence and thoroughly enjoy dipping, but I kind of want to stop for health reasons (I get PVCs when I dip a lot and have any alcohol along with anything with caffeine.) I pretty much joined to see if anyone knows where I can get kikit brand tobacco free chew. I have been looking online and can't find it anywhere. I feel likei can quit any time I want, and have been fine going cold turkey for weeks or months at a time, but just miss the satisfaction and contentment. I recently went a year and a half without cause I was in Australia and they don't sell it there, but as soon as I hit US soil I got some. I don't feel I have a nicotine addiction, I just have the habit. With that being said, I would do fine with just having a dip alternative in my mouth that seems real. I have tried bacoff and it's the most disgusting thing ever to me. It tastes like it had Pine Sol in it. I was walking into the commissary on day when I was in Hawaii and they were handing out free samples of kikit and I got two cans. The green can was the best dip alternative I've ever tried. It really feels like you have a dip in and even gives a little bit of a burn. The feel is perfect and it stays packed in your lip like a real dip, unlike the jerky chew that ends up hurting my lip more than real dip cause its so dry.
Does anyone know where to get it? Or if you've tried it before, know of anything extremely similar? I'm a Copenhagen straight user, and not really fond of the wintergreen or natural tasting ones. If anyone could give me some ideas so I don't have to waste too much money on buying everything to try and can eliminate some options right away, I would greatly appreciate it!
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Hey, I'm new here and didnt really want to do an introduction cause I'm probablya bad influence and thoroughly enjoy dipping, but I kind of want to stop for health reasons (I get PVCs when I dip a lot and have any alcohol along with anything with caffeine.) I pretty much joined to see if anyone knows where I can get kikit brand tobacco free chew. I have been looking online and can't find it anywhere. I feel likei can quit any time I want, and have been fine going cold turkey for weeks or months at a time, but just miss the satisfaction and contentment. I recently went a year and a half without cause I was in Australia and they don't sell it there, but as soon as I hit US soil I got some. I don't feel I have a nicotine addiction, I just have the habit. With that being said, I would do fine with just having a dip alternative in my mouth that seems real. I have tried bacoff and it's the most disgusting thing ever to me. It tastes like it had Pine Sol in it. I was walking into the commissary on day when I was in Hawaii and they were handing out free samples of kikit and I got two cans. The green can was the best dip alternative I've ever tried. It really feels like you have a dip in and even gives a little bit of a burn. The feel is perfect and it stays packed in your lip like a real dip, unlike the jerky chew that ends up hurting my lip more than real dip cause its so dry.
Does anyone know where to get it? Or if you've tried it before, know of anything extremely similar? I'm a Copenhagen straight user, and not really fond of the wintergreen or natural tasting ones. If anyone could give me some ideas so I don't have to waste too much money on buying everything to try and can eliminate some options right away, I would greatly appreciate it!
um...might have been the worst intro, message on a discussion board i've ever read since joining KTC 57 days ago.
first of all, you need to go to the intro page and maybe make an introduction to the rest of the 15000 members on here. If you think you can quit at any time then you would be quit right now. That type of talk will get you no where here.
if you are not an addict you wouldn't be here searching for something to help you quit...non addicts don't pick something that can kill them after putting it down for a year. You need a role model...i'm not him, but seriously...i'm so pissed off by this comment i could just scream. 'bang head'
Good luck
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Hey, I'm new here and didnt really want to do an introduction cause I'm probablya bad influence and thoroughly enjoy dipping, but I kind of want to stop for health reasons (I get PVCs when I dip a lot and have any alcohol along with anything with caffeine.) I pretty much joined to see if anyone knows where I can get kikit brand tobacco free chew. I have been looking online and can't find it anywhere. I feel likei can quit any time I want, and have been fine going cold turkey for weeks or months at a time, but just miss the satisfaction and contentment. I recently went a year and a half without cause I was in Australia and they don't sell it there, but as soon as I hit US soil I got some. I don't feel I have a nicotine addiction, I just have the habit. With that being said, I would do fine with just having a dip alternative in my mouth that seems real. I have tried bacoff and it's the most disgusting thing ever to me. It tastes like it had Pine Sol in it. I was walking into the commissary on day when I was in Hawaii and they were handing out free samples of kikit and I got two cans. The green can was the best dip alternative I've ever tried. It really feels like you have a dip in and even gives a little bit of a burn. The feel is perfect and it stays packed in your lip like a real dip, unlike the jerky chew that ends up hurting my lip more than real dip cause its so dry.
Does anyone know where to get it? Or if you've tried it before, know of anything extremely similar? I'm a Copenhagen straight user, and not really fond of the wintergreen or natural tasting ones. If anyone could give me some ideas so I don't have to waste too much money on buying everything to try and can eliminate some options right away, I would greatly appreciate it!
um...might have been the worst intro, message on a discussion board i've ever read since joining KTC 57 days ago.
first of all, you need to go to the intro page and maybe make an introduction to the rest of the 15000 members on here. If you think you can quit at any time then you would be quit right now. That type of talk will get you no where here.
if you are not an addict you wouldn't be here searching for something to help you quit...non addicts don't pick something that can kill them after putting it down for a year. You need a role model...i'm not him, but seriously...i'm so pissed off by this comment i could just scream. 'bang head'
Good luck
Sorry it's the worst intro ever, but the fact is, I don't want to quit dipping. I want to dip something else, and it's specifically made by kikit. I dip when I'm bored or doing specific things like playing video games or working in the yard. I don't dip because I need the nicotine. I used to bar tend and could go hours without even thinking about dipping. If I'm around certain people or where dipping seems a little inappropriate, I have no problems going without it and not even feeling any need for it. I just have an oral fixation. When I didn't dip while in Australia, I was snacking all the time. I didn't join to get help with quitting. I joined because people who are trying to quit probably have a good knowledge of the products out there and I specifically want a certain product or a very similar product that I plan on continually using in the place of tobacco dip. Everyone is different and has different levels of addiction, so you can't classify me in the same group that everyone else is in. A person will never succeed in quitting anything if they don't want to quit. I happen to not want to quit, but still have enough awareness to want to find an alternative. I don't want to chew gum, the salt in seeds and the hardness of the shells hurt my gums and cheek even more than dip and I find it to be even more inconveniencing than just spitting in a bottle. I'm sorry I don't have the same goals as most people on here, but maybe you just find the needs to try to outcast anyone who doesn't have the same goal as you, or maybe you take offense to the fact, whether you believe it or not, I CAN quit dipping whenever I want and not be a wreck for days after. Whenever I started back up again, it's because I chose to, not because I felt I needed to. I just enjoy it and as of right now, I don't havea desire to quit. A lot of times I decided to quit was because of the price jumping up to $6-$8 a can, or while on deployment, the lack of selection and freshness. Right now I can still get it for under$3 and I know it's bad for your health, but these days, just being alive is bad for your health.
So basically, I didn't join to get help with quitting, or get lectured, or brag about anything. I just wanted to get some info on some products. If that's too much to ask, then maybe you should be taking some stress management classes to deal with your withdrawals.
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'Popcorn' This one should be interesting
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Hey, I'm new here and didnt really want to do an introduction cause I'm probablya bad influence and thoroughly enjoy dipping, but I kind of want to stop for health reasons (I get PVCs when I dip a lot and have any alcohol along with anything with caffeine.) I pretty much joined to see if anyone knows where I can get kikit brand tobacco free chew. I have been looking online and can't find it anywhere. I feel likei can quit any time I want, and have been fine going cold turkey for weeks or months at a time, but just miss the satisfaction and contentment. I recently went a year and a half without cause I was in Australia and they don't sell it there, but as soon as I hit US soil I got some. I don't feel I have a nicotine addiction, I just have the habit. With that being said, I would do fine with just having a dip alternative in my mouth that seems real. I have tried bacoff and it's the most disgusting thing ever to me. It tastes like it had Pine Sol in it. I was walking into the commissary on day when I was in Hawaii and they were handing out free samples of kikit and I got two cans. The green can was the best dip alternative I've ever tried. It really feels like you have a dip in and even gives a little bit of a burn. The feel is perfect and it stays packed in your lip like a real dip, unlike the jerky chew that ends up hurting my lip more than real dip cause its so dry.
Does anyone know where to get it? Or if you've tried it before, know of anything extremely similar? I'm a Copenhagen straight user, and not really fond of the wintergreen or natural tasting ones. If anyone could give me some ideas so I don't have to waste too much money on buying everything to try and can eliminate some options right away, I would greatly appreciate it!
um...might have been the worst intro, message on a discussion board i've ever read since joining KTC 57 days ago.
first of all, you need to go to the intro page and maybe make an introduction to the rest of the 15000 members on here. If you think you can quit at any time then you would be quit right now. That type of talk will get you no where here.
if you are not an addict you wouldn't be here searching for something to help you quit...non addicts don't pick something that can kill them after putting it down for a year. You need a role model...i'm not him, but seriously...i'm so pissed off by this comment i could just scream. 'bang head'
Good luck
Sorry it's the worst intro ever, but the fact is, I don't want to quit dipping. I want to dip something else, and it's specifically made by kikit. I dip when I'm bored or doing specific things like playing video games or working in the yard. I don't dip because I need the nicotine. I used to bar tend and could go hours without even thinking about dipping. If I'm around certain people or where dipping seems a little inappropriate, I have no problems going without it and not even feeling any need for it. I just have an oral fixation. When I didn't dip while in Australia, I was snacking all the time. I didn't join to get help with quitting. I joined because people who are trying to quit probably have a good knowledge of the products out there and I specifically want a certain product or a very similar product that I plan on continually using in the place of tobacco dip. Everyone is different and has different levels of addiction, so you can't classify me in the same group that everyone else is in. A person will never succeed in quitting anything if they don't want to quit. I happen to not want to quit, but still have enough awareness to want to find an alternative. I don't want to chew gum, the salt in seeds and the hardness of the shells hurt my gums and cheek even more than dip and I find it to be even more inconveniencing than just spitting in a bottle. I'm sorry I don't have the same goals as most people on here, but maybe you just find the needs to try to outcast anyone who doesn't have the same goal as you, or maybe you take offense to the fact, whether you believe it or not, I CAN quit dipping whenever I want and not be a wreck for days after. Whenever I started back up again, it's because I chose to, not because I felt I needed to. I just enjoy it and as of right now, I don't havea desire to quit. A lot of times I decided to quit was because of the price jumping up to $6-$8 a can, or while on deployment, the lack of selection and freshness. Right now I can still get it for under$3 and I know it's bad for your health, but these days, just being alive is bad for your health.
So basically, I didn't join to get help with quitting, or get lectured, or brag about anything. I just wanted to get some info on some products. If that's too much to ask, then maybe you should be taking some stress management classes to deal with your withdrawals.
This is a quit site for those who want accountability in the effort to kill the can. A brotherhood who work together by publically posting our intent to quit every damn day. If you don't want to join - look at the link and be gone.
http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp)
In closing, nicotine is an addictive substance and that 'satisfaction and contentment' your craving is an addiction - stop sugar coating it.
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Hey, I'm new here and didnt really want to do an introduction cause I'm probablya bad influence and thoroughly enjoy dipping, but I kind of want to stop for health reasons (I get PVCs when I dip a lot and have any alcohol along with anything with caffeine.) I pretty much joined to see if anyone knows where I can get kikit brand tobacco free chew. I have been looking online and can't find it anywhere. I feel likei can quit any time I want, and have been fine going cold turkey for weeks or months at a time, but just miss the satisfaction and contentment. I recently went a year and a half without cause I was in Australia and they don't sell it there, but as soon as I hit US soil I got some. I don't feel I have a nicotine addiction, I just have the habit. With that being said, I would do fine with just having a dip alternative in my mouth that seems real. I have tried bacoff and it's the most disgusting thing ever to me. It tastes like it had Pine Sol in it. I was walking into the commissary on day when I was in Hawaii and they were handing out free samples of kikit and I got two cans. The green can was the best dip alternative I've ever tried. It really feels like you have a dip in and even gives a little bit of a burn. The feel is perfect and it stays packed in your lip like a real dip, unlike the jerky chew that ends up hurting my lip more than real dip cause its so dry.
Does anyone know where to get it? Or if you've tried it before, know of anything extremely similar? I'm a Copenhagen straight user, and not really fond of the wintergreen or natural tasting ones. If anyone could give me some ideas so I don't have to waste too much money on buying everything to try and can eliminate some options right away, I would greatly appreciate it!
um...might have been the worst intro, message on a discussion board i've ever read since joining KTC 57 days ago.
first of all, you need to go to the intro page and maybe make an introduction to the rest of the 15000 members on here. If you think you can quit at any time then you would be quit right now. That type of talk will get you no where here.
if you are not an addict you wouldn't be here searching for something to help you quit...non addicts don't pick something that can kill them after putting it down for a year. You need a role model...i'm not him, but seriously...i'm so pissed off by this comment i could just scream. 'bang head'
Good luck
Sorry it's the worst intro ever, but the fact is, I don't want to quit dipping. I want to dip something else, and it's specifically made by kikit. I dip when I'm bored or doing specific things like playing video games or working in the yard. I don't dip because I need the nicotine. I used to bar tend and could go hours without even thinking about dipping. If I'm around certain people or where dipping seems a little inappropriate, I have no problems going without it and not even feeling any need for it. I just have an oral fixation. When I didn't dip while in Australia, I was snacking all the time. I didn't join to get help with quitting. I joined because people who are trying to quit probably have a good knowledge of the products out there and I specifically want a certain product or a very similar product that I plan on continually using in the place of tobacco dip. Everyone is different and has different levels of addiction, so you can't classify me in the same group that everyone else is in. A person will never succeed in quitting anything if they don't want to quit. I happen to not want to quit, but still have enough awareness to want to find an alternative. I don't want to chew gum, the salt in seeds and the hardness of the shells hurt my gums and cheek even more than dip and I find it to be even more inconveniencing than just spitting in a bottle. I'm sorry I don't have the same goals as most people on here, but maybe you just find the needs to try to outcast anyone who doesn't have the same goal as you, or maybe you take offense to the fact, whether you believe it or not, I CAN quit dipping whenever I want and not be a wreck for days after. Whenever I started back up again, it's because I chose to, not because I felt I needed to. I just enjoy it and as of right now, I don't havea desire to quit. A lot of times I decided to quit was because of the price jumping up to $6-$8 a can, or while on deployment, the lack of selection and freshness. Right now I can still get it for under$3 and I know it's bad for your health, but these days, just being alive is bad for your health.
So basically, I didn't join to get help with quitting, or get lectured, or brag about anything. I just wanted to get some info on some products. If that's too much to ask, then maybe you should be taking some stress management classes to deal with your withdrawals.
This is a quit site for those who want accountability in the effort to kill the can. A brotherhood who work together by publically posting our intent to quit every damn day. If you don't want to join - look at the link and be gone.
http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp)
In closing, nicotine is an addictive substance and that 'satisfaction and contentment' your craving is an addiction - stop sugar coating it.
1- as mentioned this is a nicotene cessation site. So if you want to quit (and from what you say you do not) this is the place.
2- there is one point that you say is correct, if you want to quit to will find a way, if you do not want to quit, then you will not.
3 - nicotene is an addictive substance, the strongest that is on this Earth. So do not kid yourself here. You said about not dipping but you were snacking (well there is the telling word as you were replacing one thing with another).
I will just say to tell you I hope you find what you are looking for while just wasting your money to those who have the wrong idea about what is good and bad for your body. Cause if you just quit it, you can enjoy the sugarfree gum, candy and other beneficial things in life.
And when you lose your jaw, well you can say we told you so.
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Hey, I'm new here and didnt really want to do an introduction cause I'm probablya bad influence and thoroughly enjoy dipping, but I kind of want to stop for health reasons (I get PVCs when I dip a lot and have any alcohol along with anything with caffeine.) I pretty much joined to see if anyone knows where I can get kikit brand tobacco free chew. I have been looking online and can't find it anywhere. I feel likei can quit any time I want, and have been fine going cold turkey for weeks or months at a time, but just miss the satisfaction and contentment. I recently went a year and a half without cause I was in Australia and they don't sell it there, but as soon as I hit US soil I got some. I don't feel I have a nicotine addiction, I just have the habit. With that being said, I would do fine with just having a dip alternative in my mouth that seems real. I have tried bacoff and it's the most disgusting thing ever to me. It tastes like it had Pine Sol in it. I was walking into the commissary on day when I was in Hawaii and they were handing out free samples of kikit and I got two cans. The green can was the best dip alternative I've ever tried. It really feels like you have a dip in and even gives a little bit of a burn. The feel is perfect and it stays packed in your lip like a real dip, unlike the jerky chew that ends up hurting my lip more than real dip cause its so dry.
Does anyone know where to get it? Or if you've tried it before, know of anything extremely similar? I'm a Copenhagen straight user, and not really fond of the wintergreen or natural tasting ones. If anyone could give me some ideas so I don't have to waste too much money on buying everything to try and can eliminate some options right away, I would greatly appreciate it!
um...might have been the worst intro, message on a discussion board i've ever read since joining KTC 57 days ago.
first of all, you need to go to the intro page and maybe make an introduction to the rest of the 15000 members on here. If you think you can quit at any time then you would be quit right now. That type of talk will get you no where here.
if you are not an addict you wouldn't be here searching for something to help you quit...non addicts don't pick something that can kill them after putting it down for a year. You need a role model...i'm not him, but seriously...i'm so pissed off by this comment i could just scream. 'bang head'
Good luck
Sorry it's the worst intro ever, but the fact is, I don't want to quit dipping. I want to dip something else, and it's specifically made by kikit. I dip when I'm bored or doing specific things like playing video games or working in the yard. I don't dip because I need the nicotine. I used to bar tend and could go hours without even thinking about dipping. If I'm around certain people or where dipping seems a little inappropriate, I have no problems going without it and not even feeling any need for it. I just have an oral fixation. When I didn't dip while in Australia, I was snacking all the time. I didn't join to get help with quitting. I joined because people who are trying to quit probably have a good knowledge of the products out there and I specifically want a certain product or a very similar product that I plan on continually using in the place of tobacco dip. Everyone is different and has different levels of addiction, so you can't classify me in the same group that everyone else is in. A person will never succeed in quitting anything if they don't want to quit. I happen to not want to quit, but still have enough awareness to want to find an alternative. I don't want to chew gum, the salt in seeds and the hardness of the shells hurt my gums and cheek even more than dip and I find it to be even more inconveniencing than just spitting in a bottle. I'm sorry I don't have the same goals as most people on here, but maybe you just find the needs to try to outcast anyone who doesn't have the same goal as you, or maybe you take offense to the fact, whether you believe it or not, I CAN quit dipping whenever I want and not be a wreck for days after. Whenever I started back up again, it's because I chose to, not because I felt I needed to. I just enjoy it and as of right now, I don't havea desire to quit. A lot of times I decided to quit was because of the price jumping up to $6-$8 a can, or while on deployment, the lack of selection and freshness. Right now I can still get it for under$3 and I know it's bad for your health, but these days, just being alive is bad for your health.
So basically, I didn't join to get help with quitting, or get lectured, or brag about anything. I just wanted to get some info on some products. If that's too much to ask, then maybe you should be taking some stress management classes to deal with your withdrawals.
This is a quit site for those who want accountability in the effort to kill the can. A brotherhood who work together by publically posting our intent to quit every damn day. If you don't want to join - look at the link and be gone.
http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp)
In closing, nicotine is an addictive substance and that 'satisfaction and contentment' your craving is an addiction - stop sugar coating it.
1- as mentioned this is a nicotene cessation site. So if you want to quit (and from what you say you do not) this is the place.
2- there is one point that you say is correct, if you want to quit to will find a way, if you do not want to quit, then you will not.
3 - nicotene is an addictive substance, the strongest that is on this Earth. So do not kid yourself here. You said about not dipping but you were snacking (well there is the telling word as you were replacing one thing with another).
I will just say to tell you I hope you find what you are looking for while just wasting your money to those who have the wrong idea about what is good and bad for your body. Cause if you just quit it, you can enjoy the sugarfree gum, candy and other beneficial things in life.
And when you lose your jaw, well you can say we told you so.
I've read some pretty pathetic stuff since I have been on here. This one? Wow, it takes the cake.
But hey, you go ahead and enjoy your dip...... I'll write ya a poems for you coffin.
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Hey, I'm new here and didnt really want to do an introduction cause I'm probablya bad influence and thoroughly enjoy dipping, but I kind of want to stop for health reasons (I get PVCs when I dip a lot and have any alcohol along with anything with caffeine.) I pretty much joined to see if anyone knows where I can get kikit brand tobacco free chew. I have been looking online and can't find it anywhere. I feel likei can quit any time I want, and have been fine going cold turkey for weeks or months at a time, but just miss the satisfaction and contentment. I recently went a year and a half without cause I was in Australia and they don't sell it there, but as soon as I hit US soil I got some. I don't feel I have a nicotine addiction, I just have the habit. With that being said, I would do fine with just having a dip alternative in my mouth that seems real. I have tried bacoff and it's the most disgusting thing ever to me. It tastes like it had Pine Sol in it. I was walking into the commissary on day when I was in Hawaii and they were handing out free samples of kikit and I got two cans. The green can was the best dip alternative I've ever tried. It really feels like you have a dip in and even gives a little bit of a burn. The feel is perfect and it stays packed in your lip like a real dip, unlike the jerky chew that ends up hurting my lip more than real dip cause its so dry.
Does anyone know where to get it? Or if you've tried it before, know of anything extremely similar? I'm a Copenhagen straight user, and not really fond of the wintergreen or natural tasting ones. If anyone could give me some ideas so I don't have to waste too much money on buying everything to try and can eliminate some options right away, I would greatly appreciate it!
um...might have been the worst intro, message on a discussion board i've ever read since joining KTC 57 days ago.
first of all, you need to go to the intro page and maybe make an introduction to the rest of the 15000 members on here. If you think you can quit at any time then you would be quit right now. That type of talk will get you no where here.
if you are not an addict you wouldn't be here searching for something to help you quit...non addicts don't pick something that can kill them after putting it down for a year. You need a role model...i'm not him, but seriously...i'm so pissed off by this comment i could just scream. 'bang head'
Good luck
Sorry it's the worst intro ever, but the fact is, I don't want to quit dipping. I want to dip something else, and it's specifically made by kikit. I dip when I'm bored or doing specific things like playing video games or working in the yard. I don't dip because I need the nicotine. I used to bar tend and could go hours without even thinking about dipping. If I'm around certain people or where dipping seems a little inappropriate, I have no problems going without it and not even feeling any need for it. I just have an oral fixation. When I didn't dip while in Australia, I was snacking all the time. I didn't join to get help with quitting. I joined because people who are trying to quit probably have a good knowledge of the products out there and I specifically want a certain product or a very similar product that I plan on continually using in the place of tobacco dip. Everyone is different and has different levels of addiction, so you can't classify me in the same group that everyone else is in. A person will never succeed in quitting anything if they don't want to quit. I happen to not want to quit, but still have enough awareness to want to find an alternative. I don't want to chew gum, the salt in seeds and the hardness of the shells hurt my gums and cheek even more than dip and I find it to be even more inconveniencing than just spitting in a bottle. I'm sorry I don't have the same goals as most people on here, but maybe you just find the needs to try to outcast anyone who doesn't have the same goal as you, or maybe you take offense to the fact, whether you believe it or not, I CAN quit dipping whenever I want and not be a wreck for days after. Whenever I started back up again, it's because I chose to, not because I felt I needed to. I just enjoy it and as of right now, I don't havea desire to quit. A lot of times I decided to quit was because of the price jumping up to $6-$8 a can, or while on deployment, the lack of selection and freshness. Right now I can still get it for under$3 and I know it's bad for your health, but these days, just being alive is bad for your health.
So basically, I didn't join to get help with quitting, or get lectured, or brag about anything. I just wanted to get some info on some products. If that's too much to ask, then maybe you should be taking some stress management classes to deal with your withdrawals.
This is a quit site for those who want accountability in the effort to kill the can. A brotherhood who work together by publically posting our intent to quit every damn day. If you don't want to join - look at the link and be gone.
http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp)
In closing, nicotine is an addictive substance and that 'satisfaction and contentment' your craving is an addiction - stop sugar coating it.
1- as mentioned this is a nicotene cessation site. So if you want to quit (and from what you say you do not) this is the place.
2- there is one point that you say is correct, if you want to quit to will find a way, if you do not want to quit, then you will not.
3 - nicotene is an addictive substance, the strongest that is on this Earth. So do not kid yourself here. You said about not dipping but you were snacking (well there is the telling word as you were replacing one thing with another).
I will just say to tell you I hope you find what you are looking for while just wasting your money to those who have the wrong idea about what is good and bad for your body. Cause if you just quit it, you can enjoy the sugarfree gum, candy and other beneficial things in life.
And when you lose your jaw, well you can say we told you so.
Guys, clearly he is just looking for some info from people "trying" to quit. Clearly he is in the wrong place, no here is trying to quit.
Also, As an aside, you may have stopped for a while but clearly you are no quitter. If you think you can quit anytime, that is awesome. But all of us had multiple stops so you ain't no special butterfly.
Best of luck to you, and that link to the alternative non nicotine chews is pretty amazing. Of you ever do decide to quit, come on back. We will be here.
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Hey, I'm new here and didnt really want to do an introduction cause I'm probablya bad influence and thoroughly enjoy dipping, but I kind of want to stop for health reasons (I get PVCs when I dip a lot and have any alcohol along with anything with caffeine.) I pretty much joined to see if anyone knows where I can get kikit brand tobacco free chew. I have been looking online and can't find it anywhere. I feel likei can quit any time I want, and have been fine going cold turkey for weeks or months at a time, but just miss the satisfaction and contentment. I recently went a year and a half without cause I was in Australia and they don't sell it there, but as soon as I hit US soil I got some. I don't feel I have a nicotine addiction, I just have the habit. With that being said, I would do fine with just having a dip alternative in my mouth that seems real. I have tried bacoff and it's the most disgusting thing ever to me. It tastes like it had Pine Sol in it. I was walking into the commissary on day when I was in Hawaii and they were handing out free samples of kikit and I got two cans. The green can was the best dip alternative I've ever tried. It really feels like you have a dip in and even gives a little bit of a burn. The feel is perfect and it stays packed in your lip like a real dip, unlike the jerky chew that ends up hurting my lip more than real dip cause its so dry.
Does anyone know where to get it? Or if you've tried it before, know of anything extremely similar? I'm a Copenhagen straight user, and not really fond of the wintergreen or natural tasting ones. If anyone could give me some ideas so I don't have to waste too much money on buying everything to try and can eliminate some options right away, I would greatly appreciate it!
um...might have been the worst intro, message on a discussion board i've ever read since joining KTC 57 days ago.
first of all, you need to go to the intro page and maybe make an introduction to the rest of the 15000 members on here. If you think you can quit at any time then you would be quit right now. That type of talk will get you no where here.
if you are not an addict you wouldn't be here searching for something to help you quit...non addicts don't pick something that can kill them after putting it down for a year. You need a role model...i'm not him, but seriously...i'm so pissed off by this comment i could just scream. 'bang head'
Good luck
Sorry it's the worst intro ever, but the fact is, I don't want to quit dipping. I want to dip something else, and it's specifically made by kikit. I dip when I'm bored or doing specific things like playing video games or working in the yard. I don't dip because I need the nicotine. I used to bar tend and could go hours without even thinking about dipping. If I'm around certain people or where dipping seems a little inappropriate, I have no problems going without it and not even feeling any need for it. I just have an oral fixation. When I didn't dip while in Australia, I was snacking all the time. I didn't join to get help with quitting. I joined because people who are trying to quit probably have a good knowledge of the products out there and I specifically want a certain product or a very similar product that I plan on continually using in the place of tobacco dip. Everyone is different and has different levels of addiction, so you can't classify me in the same group that everyone else is in. A person will never succeed in quitting anything if they don't want to quit. I happen to not want to quit, but still have enough awareness to want to find an alternative. I don't want to chew gum, the salt in seeds and the hardness of the shells hurt my gums and cheek even more than dip and I find it to be even more inconveniencing than just spitting in a bottle. I'm sorry I don't have the same goals as most people on here, but maybe you just find the needs to try to outcast anyone who doesn't have the same goal as you, or maybe you take offense to the fact, whether you believe it or not, I CAN quit dipping whenever I want and not be a wreck for days after. Whenever I started back up again, it's because I chose to, not because I felt I needed to. I just enjoy it and as of right now, I don't havea desire to quit. A lot of times I decided to quit was because of the price jumping up to $6-$8 a can, or while on deployment, the lack of selection and freshness. Right now I can still get it for under$3 and I know it's bad for your health, but these days, just being alive is bad for your health.
So basically, I didn't join to get help with quitting, or get lectured, or brag about anything. I just wanted to get some info on some products. If that's too much to ask, then maybe you should be taking some stress management classes to deal with your withdrawals.
This is a quit site for those who want accountability in the effort to kill the can. A brotherhood who work together by publically posting our intent to quit every damn day. If you don't want to join - look at the link and be gone.
http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp)
In closing, nicotine is an addictive substance and that 'satisfaction and contentment' your craving is an addiction - stop sugar coating it.
1- as mentioned this is a nicotene cessation site. So if you want to quit (and from what you say you do not) this is the place.
2- there is one point that you say is correct, if you want to quit to will find a way, if you do not want to quit, then you will not.
3 - nicotene is an addictive substance, the strongest that is on this Earth. So do not kid yourself here. You said about not dipping but you were snacking (well there is the telling word as you were replacing one thing with another).
I will just say to tell you I hope you find what you are looking for while just wasting your money to those who have the wrong idea about what is good and bad for your body. Cause if you just quit it, you can enjoy the sugarfree gum, candy and other beneficial things in life.
And when you lose your jaw, well you can say we told you so.
Guys, clearly he is just looking for some info from people "trying" to quit. Clearly he is in the wrong place, no here is trying to quit.
Also, As an aside, you may have stopped for a while but clearly you are no quitter. If you think you can quit anytime, that is awesome. But all of us had multiple stops so you ain't no special butterfly.
Best of luck to you, and that link to the alternative non nicotine chews is pretty amazing. Of you ever do decide to quit, come on back. We will be here.
So . . . let me get this straight. You find satisfaction and contentment in a poison that causes you to have PVCs! Why do I find that to be just a bit off cue? :blink:
This really isn't the "worst" intro. It's the saddest!
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I guess I am clearly in the wrong place and all of you know me SO well and know exactly how addicted I am and like to focus on whatever YOU choose to focus on instead of actually trying to provide any assistance. I know what "alternatives" are out there and I have tried a couple. And regardless how addictive nicotine is, and I never mentioned it isn't, different people are predisposed to have addictive tendancies more than others. Just as two people can go out and drink as much alcohol but one would become dependent on it and another wouldn't. I'm not here to debate how dangerous dip is, or if I should quit or not. I know it would be better for me if I quit. I know what it can do to your mouth. I ride motorcycles too and I don't go on forums for people to convince me how dangerous they are and call me an organ donor. I happen to not have a very addictive nature. I actually get tired of dipping sometimes and go a day without doing it. I dip out of boredom mostly. I have a habit, not a chemical addiction, just as any thumb sucker, nail biter, hair twirler, or any kid who needs their blankie. I know myself better than any of you would like to think you know me, and have been dipping for 12 years, and I KNOW what I can do or not do, and I happen to know that I liked the shredded coconut in kikit just as much as I like copenhagen and it's a much healthier alternative. I don't like bac-off, I don't like jerky chew, I'm not a gum chewer, and I've never smoked cigarettes. If I'm out of dip, I won't even get one off someone else that doesn't have a flavor I like. If I was so addicted to nicotine, I don't think I would be as picky as I am and would take whatever I could get when I am out of dip.
I like the feeling in my lip and the flavor. I have tried kikit and I love it so if I could get it, I wouldn't have to use copenhagen anymore and I would essentially be quitting. So if anyone is actually interested in helping me "quit" by giving me opinions on alternative tobacco free dip they have tried and if any are shredded coconut like kikit or knows why the kikit webpage doesn't work and if I can even get any still, instead of your opinions of ME, that would be greatly appreciated. Or if everyone just wants to be judgmental pricks, I guess it's all just a waste of my time and I'll take is as another learning experience to stay away from and not ever socialize with people trying to get off a nicotine addiction because the stereotype seems to precede you.
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Hey, I'm new here and didnt really want to do an introduction cause I'm probablya bad influence and thoroughly enjoy dipping, but I kind of want to stop for health reasons (I get PVCs when I dip a lot and have any alcohol along with anything with caffeine.) I pretty much joined to see if anyone knows where I can get kikit brand tobacco free chew. I have been looking online and can't find it anywhere. I feel likei can quit any time I want, and have been fine going cold turkey for weeks or months at a time, but just miss the satisfaction and contentment. I recently went a year and a half without cause I was in Australia and they don't sell it there, but as soon as I hit US soil I got some. I don't feel I have a nicotine addiction, I just have the habit. With that being said, I would do fine with just having a dip alternative in my mouth that seems real. I have tried bacoff and it's the most disgusting thing ever to me. It tastes like it had Pine Sol in it. I was walking into the commissary on day when I was in Hawaii and they were handing out free samples of kikit and I got two cans. The green can was the best dip alternative I've ever tried. It really feels like you have a dip in and even gives a little bit of a burn. The feel is perfect and it stays packed in your lip like a real dip, unlike the jerky chew that ends up hurting my lip more than real dip cause its so dry.
Does anyone know where to get it? Or if you've tried it before, know of anything extremely similar? I'm a Copenhagen straight user, and not really fond of the wintergreen or natural tasting ones. If anyone could give me some ideas so I don't have to waste too much money on buying everything to try and can eliminate some options right away, I would greatly appreciate it!
um...might have been the worst intro, message on a discussion board i've ever read since joining KTC 57 days ago.
first of all, you need to go to the intro page and maybe make an introduction to the rest of the 15000 members on here. If you think you can quit at any time then you would be quit right now. That type of talk will get you no where here.
if you are not an addict you wouldn't be here searching for something to help you quit...non addicts don't pick something that can kill them after putting it down for a year. You need a role model...i'm not him, but seriously...i'm so pissed off by this comment i could just scream. 'bang head'
Good luck
Sorry it's the worst intro ever, but the fact is, I don't want to quit dipping. I want to dip something else, and it's specifically made by kikit. I dip when I'm bored or doing specific things like playing video games or working in the yard. I don't dip because I need the nicotine. I used to bar tend and could go hours without even thinking about dipping. If I'm around certain people or where dipping seems a little inappropriate, I have no problems going without it and not even feeling any need for it. I just have an oral fixation. When I didn't dip while in Australia, I was snacking all the time. I didn't join to get help with quitting. I joined because people who are trying to quit probably have a good knowledge of the products out there and I specifically want a certain product or a very similar product that I plan on continually using in the place of tobacco dip. Everyone is different and has different levels of addiction, so you can't classify me in the same group that everyone else is in. A person will never succeed in quitting anything if they don't want to quit. I happen to not want to quit, but still have enough awareness to want to find an alternative. I don't want to chew gum, the salt in seeds and the hardness of the shells hurt my gums and cheek even more than dip and I find it to be even more inconveniencing than just spitting in a bottle. I'm sorry I don't have the same goals as most people on here, but maybe you just find the needs to try to outcast anyone who doesn't have the same goal as you, or maybe you take offense to the fact, whether you believe it or not, I CAN quit dipping whenever I want and not be a wreck for days after. Whenever I started back up again, it's because I chose to, not because I felt I needed to. I just enjoy it and as of right now, I don't havea desire to quit. A lot of times I decided to quit was because of the price jumping up to $6-$8 a can, or while on deployment, the lack of selection and freshness. Right now I can still get it for under$3 and I know it's bad for your health, but these days, just being alive is bad for your health.
So basically, I didn't join to get help with quitting, or get lectured, or brag about anything. I just wanted to get some info on some products. If that's too much to ask, then maybe you should be taking some stress management classes to deal with your withdrawals.
This is a quit site for those who want accountability in the effort to kill the can. A brotherhood who work together by publically posting our intent to quit every damn day. If you don't want to join - look at the link and be gone.
http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp)
In closing, nicotine is an addictive substance and that 'satisfaction and contentment' your craving is an addiction - stop sugar coating it.
1- as mentioned this is a nicotene cessation site. So if you want to quit (and from what you say you do not) this is the place.
2- there is one point that you say is correct, if you want to quit to will find a way, if you do not want to quit, then you will not.
3 - nicotene is an addictive substance, the strongest that is on this Earth. So do not kid yourself here. You said about not dipping but you were snacking (well there is the telling word as you were replacing one thing with another).
I will just say to tell you I hope you find what you are looking for while just wasting your money to those who have the wrong idea about what is good and bad for your body. Cause if you just quit it, you can enjoy the sugarfree gum, candy and other beneficial things in life.
And when you lose your jaw, well you can say we told you so.
Guys, clearly he is just looking for some info from people "trying" to quit. Clearly he is in the wrong place, no here is trying to quit.
Also, As an aside, you may have stopped for a while but clearly you are no quitter. If you think you can quit anytime, that is awesome. But all of us had multiple stops so you ain't no special butterfly.
Best of luck to you, and that link to the alternative non nicotine chews is pretty amazing. Of you ever do decide to quit, come on back. We will be here.
So . . . let me get this straight. You find satisfaction and contentment in a poison that causes you to have PVCs! Why do I find that to be just a bit off cue? :blink:
This really isn't the "worst" intro. It's the saddest!
I get only a mild case of PVCs, and it's only when I have an abundance of nicotine, alcohol and caffeine in the same period and it's probably not helping that I recently moved to Denver with the lower oxygen concentration in the air here. In the 12 years I've been dipping, I've only had two instances that have lasted about a week, including the present where I have had any noticeable sensations. The first time was during a port visit where I was smoking cuban cigars with dip in and lots of beer and soda for about two days. And you have to be kidding yourself if you didn't know of the "poisons" before ever taking your first dip, so don't sit here and try to lecture me about knowing how bad dip is. If you didn't know if was bad for you to begin with, you are just a plain idiot.
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Hey, I'm new here and didnt really want to do an introduction cause I'm probablya bad influence and thoroughly enjoy dipping, but I kind of want to stop for health reasons (I get PVCs when I dip a lot and have any alcohol along with anything with caffeine.) I pretty much joined to see if anyone knows where I can get kikit brand tobacco free chew. I have been looking online and can't find it anywhere. I feel likei can quit any time I want, and have been fine going cold turkey for weeks or months at a time, but just miss the satisfaction and contentment. I recently went a year and a half without cause I was in Australia and they don't sell it there, but as soon as I hit US soil I got some. I don't feel I have a nicotine addiction, I just have the habit. With that being said, I would do fine with just having a dip alternative in my mouth that seems real. I have tried bacoff and it's the most disgusting thing ever to me. It tastes like it had Pine Sol in it. I was walking into the commissary on day when I was in Hawaii and they were handing out free samples of kikit and I got two cans. The green can was the best dip alternative I've ever tried. It really feels like you have a dip in and even gives a little bit of a burn. The feel is perfect and it stays packed in your lip like a real dip, unlike the jerky chew that ends up hurting my lip more than real dip cause its so dry.
Does anyone know where to get it? Or if you've tried it before, know of anything extremely similar? I'm a Copenhagen straight user, and not really fond of the wintergreen or natural tasting ones. If anyone could give me some ideas so I don't have to waste too much money on buying everything to try and can eliminate some options right away, I would greatly appreciate it!
um...might have been the worst intro, message on a discussion board i've ever read since joining KTC 57 days ago.
first of all, you need to go to the intro page and maybe make an introduction to the rest of the 15000 members on here. If you think you can quit at any time then you would be quit right now. That type of talk will get you no where here.
if you are not an addict you wouldn't be here searching for something to help you quit...non addicts don't pick something that can kill them after putting it down for a year. You need a role model...i'm not him, but seriously...i'm so pissed off by this comment i could just scream. 'bang head'
Good luck
Sorry it's the worst intro ever, but the fact is, I don't want to quit dipping. I want to dip something else, and it's specifically made by kikit. I dip when I'm bored or doing specific things like playing video games or working in the yard. I don't dip because I need the nicotine. I used to bar tend and could go hours without even thinking about dipping. If I'm around certain people or where dipping seems a little inappropriate, I have no problems going without it and not even feeling any need for it. I just have an oral fixation. When I didn't dip while in Australia, I was snacking all the time. I didn't join to get help with quitting. I joined because people who are trying to quit probably have a good knowledge of the products out there and I specifically want a certain product or a very similar product that I plan on continually using in the place of tobacco dip. Everyone is different and has different levels of addiction, so you can't classify me in the same group that everyone else is in. A person will never succeed in quitting anything if they don't want to quit. I happen to not want to quit, but still have enough awareness to want to find an alternative. I don't want to chew gum, the salt in seeds and the hardness of the shells hurt my gums and cheek even more than dip and I find it to be even more inconveniencing than just spitting in a bottle. I'm sorry I don't have the same goals as most people on here, but maybe you just find the needs to try to outcast anyone who doesn't have the same goal as you, or maybe you take offense to the fact, whether you believe it or not, I CAN quit dipping whenever I want and not be a wreck for days after. Whenever I started back up again, it's because I chose to, not because I felt I needed to. I just enjoy it and as of right now, I don't havea desire to quit. A lot of times I decided to quit was because of the price jumping up to $6-$8 a can, or while on deployment, the lack of selection and freshness. Right now I can still get it for under$3 and I know it's bad for your health, but these days, just being alive is bad for your health.
So basically, I didn't join to get help with quitting, or get lectured, or brag about anything. I just wanted to get some info on some products. If that's too much to ask, then maybe you should be taking some stress management classes to deal with your withdrawals.
This is a quit site for those who want accountability in the effort to kill the can. A brotherhood who work together by publically posting our intent to quit every damn day. If you don't want to join - look at the link and be gone.
http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp)
In closing, nicotine is an addictive substance and that 'satisfaction and contentment' your craving is an addiction - stop sugar coating it.
1- as mentioned this is a nicotene cessation site. So if you want to quit (and from what you say you do not) this is the place.
2- there is one point that you say is correct, if you want to quit to will find a way, if you do not want to quit, then you will not.
3 - nicotene is an addictive substance, the strongest that is on this Earth. So do not kid yourself here. You said about not dipping but you were snacking (well there is the telling word as you were replacing one thing with another).
I will just say to tell you I hope you find what you are looking for while just wasting your money to those who have the wrong idea about what is good and bad for your body. Cause if you just quit it, you can enjoy the sugarfree gum, candy and other beneficial things in life.
And when you lose your jaw, well you can say we told you so.
Guys, clearly he is just looking for some info from people "trying" to quit. Clearly he is in the wrong place, no here is trying to quit.
Also, As an aside, you may have stopped for a while but clearly you are no quitter. If you think you can quit anytime, that is awesome. But all of us had multiple stops so you ain't no special butterfly.
Best of luck to you, and that link to the alternative non nicotine chews is pretty amazing. Of you ever do decide to quit, come on back. We will be here.
So . . . let me get this straight. You find satisfaction and contentment in a poison that causes you to have PVCs! Why do I find that to be just a bit off cue? :blink:
This really isn't the "worst" intro. It's the saddest!
I get only a mild case of PVCs, and it's only when I have an abundance of nicotine, alcohol and caffeine in the same period and it's probably not helping that I recently moved to Denver with the lower oxygen concentration in the air here. In the 12 years I've been dipping, I've only had two instances that have lasted about a week, including the present where I have had any noticeable sensations. The first time was during a port visit where I was smoking cuban cigars with dip in and lots of beer and soda for about two days. And you have to be kidding yourself if you didn't know of the "poisons" before ever taking your first dip, so don't sit here and try to lecture me about knowing how bad dip is. If you didn't know if was bad for you to begin with, you are just a plain idiot.
It's one thing to learn you're an idiot and stop being one.
It's quite another thing to know your an idiot and keep being one.
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Hey, I'm new here and didnt really want to do an introduction cause I'm probablya bad influence and thoroughly enjoy dipping, but I kind of want to stop for health reasons (I get PVCs when I dip a lot and have any alcohol along with anything with caffeine.) I pretty much joined to see if anyone knows where I can get kikit brand tobacco free chew. I have been looking online and can't find it anywhere. I feel likei can quit any time I want, and have been fine going cold turkey for weeks or months at a time, but just miss the satisfaction and contentment. I recently went a year and a half without cause I was in Australia and they don't sell it there, but as soon as I hit US soil I got some. I don't feel I have a nicotine addiction, I just have the habit. With that being said, I would do fine with just having a dip alternative in my mouth that seems real. I have tried bacoff and it's the most disgusting thing ever to me. It tastes like it had Pine Sol in it. I was walking into the commissary on day when I was in Hawaii and they were handing out free samples of kikit and I got two cans. The green can was the best dip alternative I've ever tried. It really feels like you have a dip in and even gives a little bit of a burn. The feel is perfect and it stays packed in your lip like a real dip, unlike the jerky chew that ends up hurting my lip more than real dip cause its so dry.
Does anyone know where to get it? Or if you've tried it before, know of anything extremely similar? I'm a Copenhagen straight user, and not really fond of the wintergreen or natural tasting ones. If anyone could give me some ideas so I don't have to waste too much money on buying everything to try and can eliminate some options right away, I would greatly appreciate it!
um...might have been the worst intro, message on a discussion board i've ever read since joining KTC 57 days ago.
first of all, you need to go to the intro page and maybe make an introduction to the rest of the 15000 members on here. If you think you can quit at any time then you would be quit right now. That type of talk will get you no where here.
if you are not an addict you wouldn't be here searching for something to help you quit...non addicts don't pick something that can kill them after putting it down for a year. You need a role model...i'm not him, but seriously...i'm so pissed off by this comment i could just scream. 'bang head'
Good luck
Sorry it's the worst intro ever, but the fact is, I don't want to quit dipping. I want to dip something else, and it's specifically made by kikit. I dip when I'm bored or doing specific things like playing video games or working in the yard. I don't dip because I need the nicotine. I used to bar tend and could go hours without even thinking about dipping. If I'm around certain people or where dipping seems a little inappropriate, I have no problems going without it and not even feeling any need for it. I just have an oral fixation. When I didn't dip while in Australia, I was snacking all the time. I didn't join to get help with quitting. I joined because people who are trying to quit probably have a good knowledge of the products out there and I specifically want a certain product or a very similar product that I plan on continually using in the place of tobacco dip. Everyone is different and has different levels of addiction, so you can't classify me in the same group that everyone else is in. A person will never succeed in quitting anything if they don't want to quit. I happen to not want to quit, but still have enough awareness to want to find an alternative. I don't want to chew gum, the salt in seeds and the hardness of the shells hurt my gums and cheek even more than dip and I find it to be even more inconveniencing than just spitting in a bottle. I'm sorry I don't have the same goals as most people on here, but maybe you just find the needs to try to outcast anyone who doesn't have the same goal as you, or maybe you take offense to the fact, whether you believe it or not, I CAN quit dipping whenever I want and not be a wreck for days after. Whenever I started back up again, it's because I chose to, not because I felt I needed to. I just enjoy it and as of right now, I don't havea desire to quit. A lot of times I decided to quit was because of the price jumping up to $6-$8 a can, or while on deployment, the lack of selection and freshness. Right now I can still get it for under$3 and I know it's bad for your health, but these days, just being alive is bad for your health.
So basically, I didn't join to get help with quitting, or get lectured, or brag about anything. I just wanted to get some info on some products. If that's too much to ask, then maybe you should be taking some stress management classes to deal with your withdrawals.
This is a quit site for those who want accountability in the effort to kill the can. A brotherhood who work together by publically posting our intent to quit every damn day. If you don't want to join - look at the link and be gone.
http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp)
In closing, nicotine is an addictive substance and that 'satisfaction and contentment' your craving is an addiction - stop sugar coating it.
1- as mentioned this is a nicotene cessation site. So if you want to quit (and from what you say you do not) this is the place.
2- there is one point that you say is correct, if you want to quit to will find a way, if you do not want to quit, then you will not.
3 - nicotene is an addictive substance, the strongest that is on this Earth. So do not kid yourself here. You said about not dipping but you were snacking (well there is the telling word as you were replacing one thing with another).
I will just say to tell you I hope you find what you are looking for while just wasting your money to those who have the wrong idea about what is good and bad for your body. Cause if you just quit it, you can enjoy the sugarfree gum, candy and other beneficial things in life.
And when you lose your jaw, well you can say we told you so.
Guys, clearly he is just looking for some info from people "trying" to quit. Clearly he is in the wrong place, no here is trying to quit.
Also, As an aside, you may have stopped for a while but clearly you are no quitter. If you think you can quit anytime, that is awesome. But all of us had multiple stops so you ain't no special butterfly.
Best of luck to you, and that link to the alternative non nicotine chews is pretty amazing. Of you ever do decide to quit, come on back. We will be here.
So . . . let me get this straight. You find satisfaction and contentment in a poison that causes you to have PVCs! Why do I find that to be just a bit off cue? :blink:
This really isn't the "worst" intro. It's the saddest!
I get only a mild case of PVCs, and it's only when I have an abundance of nicotine, alcohol and caffeine in the same period and it's probably not helping that I recently moved to Denver with the lower oxygen concentration in the air here. In the 12 years I've been dipping, I've only had two instances that have lasted about a week, including the present where I have had any noticeable sensations. The first time was during a port visit where I was smoking cuban cigars with dip in and lots of beer and soda for about two days. And you have to be kidding yourself if you didn't know of the "poisons" before ever taking your first dip, so don't sit here and try to lecture me about knowing how bad dip is. If you didn't know if was bad for you to begin with, you are just a plain idiot.
It's one thing to learn you're an idiot and stop being one.
It's quite another thing to know your an idiot and keep being one.
Kikit's Facebook page states that the company is temporarily out of business. I think you might be in trouble finding the stuff.
However, from experience, I will tell you the act of chewing without nicotine loses its appeal quickly. Many of us have used or use alternatives.
Why are you looking for alternatives if you like chewing so much?
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I guess I am clearly in the wrong place and all of you know me SO well and know exactly how addicted I am and like to focus on whatever YOU choose to focus on instead of actually trying to provide any assistance.
I know myself better than any of you would like to think you know me, and have been dipping for 12 years
I like the feeling in my lip and the flavor. I have tried kikit and I love it so if I could get it, I wouldn't have to use copenhagen anymore...
nope not an addict - just a habit, nothing to see here, please move along.
If I could get meth I wouldn't need blow - clearly I'm not addicted to blow!
To your question - here's another. Have you tried smokey mountain or hooch? There is a page with reviews here (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp). Good luck, I hope you find something that might help you try to change your habit man.
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I get only a mild case of PVCs
Just remember, there is no such thing as a mild case of cancer....
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Hey, I'm new here and didnt really want to do an introduction cause I'm probablya bad influence and thoroughly enjoy dipping, but I kind of want to stop for health reasons (I get PVCs when I dip a lot and have any alcohol along with anything with caffeine.) I pretty much joined to see if anyone knows where I can get kikit brand tobacco free chew. I have been looking online and can't find it anywhere. I feel likei can quit any time I want, and have been fine going cold turkey for weeks or months at a time, but just miss the satisfaction and contentment. I recently went a year and a half without cause I was in Australia and they don't sell it there, but as soon as I hit US soil I got some. I don't feel I have a nicotine addiction, I just have the habit. With that being said, I would do fine with just having a dip alternative in my mouth that seems real. I have tried bacoff and it's the most disgusting thing ever to me. It tastes like it had Pine Sol in it. I was walking into the commissary on day when I was in Hawaii and they were handing out free samples of kikit and I got two cans. The green can was the best dip alternative I've ever tried. It really feels like you have a dip in and even gives a little bit of a burn. The feel is perfect and it stays packed in your lip like a real dip, unlike the jerky chew that ends up hurting my lip more than real dip cause its so dry.
Does anyone know where to get it? Or if you've tried it before, know of anything extremely similar? I'm a Copenhagen straight user, and not really fond of the wintergreen or natural tasting ones. If anyone could give me some ideas so I don't have to waste too much money on buying everything to try and can eliminate some options right away, I would greatly appreciate it!
um...might have been the worst intro, message on a discussion board i've ever read since joining KTC 57 days ago.
first of all, you need to go to the intro page and maybe make an introduction to the rest of the 15000 members on here. If you think you can quit at any time then you would be quit right now. That type of talk will get you no where here.
if you are not an addict you wouldn't be here searching for something to help you quit...non addicts don't pick something that can kill them after putting it down for a year. You need a role model...i'm not him, but seriously...i'm so pissed off by this comment i could just scream. 'bang head'
Good luck
Sorry it's the worst intro ever, but the fact is, I don't want to quit dipping. I want to dip something else, and it's specifically made by kikit. I dip when I'm bored or doing specific things like playing video games or working in the yard. I don't dip because I need the nicotine. I used to bar tend and could go hours without even thinking about dipping. If I'm around certain people or where dipping seems a little inappropriate, I have no problems going without it and not even feeling any need for it. I just have an oral fixation. When I didn't dip while in Australia, I was snacking all the time. I didn't join to get help with quitting. I joined because people who are trying to quit probably have a good knowledge of the products out there and I specifically want a certain product or a very similar product that I plan on continually using in the place of tobacco dip. Everyone is different and has different levels of addiction, so you can't classify me in the same group that everyone else is in. A person will never succeed in quitting anything if they don't want to quit. I happen to not want to quit, but still have enough awareness to want to find an alternative. I don't want to chew gum, the salt in seeds and the hardness of the shells hurt my gums and cheek even more than dip and I find it to be even more inconveniencing than just spitting in a bottle. I'm sorry I don't have the same goals as most people on here, but maybe you just find the needs to try to outcast anyone who doesn't have the same goal as you, or maybe you take offense to the fact, whether you believe it or not, I CAN quit dipping whenever I want and not be a wreck for days after. Whenever I started back up again, it's because I chose to, not because I felt I needed to. I just enjoy it and as of right now, I don't havea desire to quit. A lot of times I decided to quit was because of the price jumping up to $6-$8 a can, or while on deployment, the lack of selection and freshness. Right now I can still get it for under$3 and I know it's bad for your health, but these days, just being alive is bad for your health.
So basically, I didn't join to get help with quitting, or get lectured, or brag about anything. I just wanted to get some info on some products. If that's too much to ask, then maybe you should be taking some stress management classes to deal with your withdrawals.
This is a quit site for those who want accountability in the effort to kill the can. A brotherhood who work together by publically posting our intent to quit every damn day. If you don't want to join - look at the link and be gone.
http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp)
In closing, nicotine is an addictive substance and that 'satisfaction and contentment' your craving is an addiction - stop sugar coating it.
1- as mentioned this is a nicotene cessation site. So if you want to quit (and from what you say you do not) this is the place.
2- there is one point that you say is correct, if you want to quit to will find a way, if you do not want to quit, then you will not.
3 - nicotene is an addictive substance, the strongest that is on this Earth. So do not kid yourself here. You said about not dipping but you were snacking (well there is the telling word as you were replacing one thing with another).
I will just say to tell you I hope you find what you are looking for while just wasting your money to those who have the wrong idea about what is good and bad for your body. Cause if you just quit it, you can enjoy the sugarfree gum, candy and other beneficial things in life.
And when you lose your jaw, well you can say we told you so.
Guys, clearly he is just looking for some info from people "trying" to quit. Clearly he is in the wrong place, no here is trying to quit.
Also, As an aside, you may have stopped for a while but clearly you are no quitter. If you think you can quit anytime, that is awesome. But all of us had multiple stops so you ain't no special butterfly.
Best of luck to you, and that link to the alternative non nicotine chews is pretty amazing. Of you ever do decide to quit, come on back. We will be here.
So . . . let me get this straight. You find satisfaction and contentment in a poison that causes you to have PVCs! Why do I find that to be just a bit off cue? :blink:
This really isn't the "worst" intro. It's the saddest!
I get only a mild case of PVCs, and it's only when I have an abundance of nicotine, alcohol and caffeine in the same period and it's probably not helping that I recently moved to Denver with the lower oxygen concentration in the air here. In the 12 years I've been dipping, I've only had two instances that have lasted about a week, including the present where I have had any noticeable sensations. The first time was during a port visit where I was smoking cuban cigars with dip in and lots of beer and soda for about two days. And you have to be kidding yourself if you didn't know of the "poisons" before ever taking your first dip, so don't sit here and try to lecture me about knowing how bad dip is. If you didn't know if was bad for you to begin with, you are just a plain idiot.
It's one thing to learn you're an idiot and stop being one.
It's quite another thing to know your an idiot and keep being one.
Kikit's Facebook page states that the company is temporarily out of business. I think you might be in trouble finding the stuff.
However, from experience, I will tell you the act of chewing without nicotine loses its appeal quickly. Many of us have used or use alternatives.
Why are you looking for alternatives if you like chewing so much?
I really appreciate your response and thank you for that info. With the lack of info I could find on it and their website not working I figured as much.
I have tried some of the alternatives and I know exactly what you mean by it losing it's appeal, which is why I was looking specifically for kikit. Some of the alternatives I've tried do lose their appeal because they seem nothing like dip. Bac off is pretty similar but I couldn't stand the chemical taste it had to it. I'm sure as most of you know, the effect of nicotine only lasts so long, and I'm not sure of the details, but I think I remember it being something like 2 weeks. So obviously, after a year and a half, I'm not addicted to nicotine anymore, and I didn't choose to dip again because of the nicotine. I just feel comfort from having it in my lip for some reason, just as someone who sucks their thumb has comfort sucking their thumb. I'm willing to admit that my habit is as infantile as that. So having an alternative would work for me, and for those of you that haven't tried kikit, you probably can't understand what I'm talking about. My guess is that most of the alternatives try to obtain a look and feel of dip and have to cover up the taste of whatever they use with more intense flavorings. Kikit was just shredded coconut and had some flavors and hot sauce, and even though it looked nothing like dip, it was the most realistic one I've tried, and after you get the nicotine out of your system, it's probably just as good. Except you don't have to spit. They have (had) a natural coconut flavor one that tasted just like coconut with a bit of citrus and it was a little too sweet for me and just tasted like candy. But the green can was awesome.
Even thought I'm not exactly looking to quit, if I had something that was just as good to me or close, I would gladly do that over dip. I know cancer and losing your jaw is good enough reason to quit, but my mentality seems to make me ignore that. That doesn't make me any less of a person than anyone else here. Everyone has to have a reason to quit, whether it just becomes an idea one day and they keep telling themselves every day that they are and eventually make an effort to, or some dramatic eye opening emotional event happens and they immediately make a huge effort to quit. I know it's not good for me, and I'm in a situation where I'm moving in about a month to a backwoods part of FL where everyone dips, so it's socially acceptable and being a veteran, I was around it all the time in the military, so against better judgement and logic, my brain still tells me it's ok after seeing everyone else around me doing it. It's just human nature.
When I move, I'll be living with my kids for the first time in 6 years, and they don't want me doing it, so I will eventually decide to quit. My ex that I'm getting back with smokes, and i hate cigarettes, and I would have no problem giving up dipping for her to quit, and we've talked about that already. Those will be my reasons for when I decide to quit, and they may not be the same as everyone else's reasons, but everyone has different ones. I seem to be getting a lot of hostility for being honest and a lot of criticism because I have my own opinions about myself. I expected a little more understanding from a group that is here to try to HELP one another, and regardless of my intentions on quitting, I have been asking for a dip alternative similar to one I've tried which would result in me quitting.
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I guess I am clearly in the wrong place and all of you know me SO well and know exactly how addicted I am and like to focus on whatever YOU choose to focus on instead of actually trying to provide any assistance.
I know myself better than any of you would like to think you know me, and have been dipping for 12 years
I like the feeling in my lip and the flavor. I have tried kikit and I love it so if I could get it, I wouldn't have to use copenhagen anymore...
nope not an addict - just a habit, nothing to see here, please move along.
If I could get meth I wouldn't need blow - clearly I'm not addicted to blow!
To your question - here's another. Have you tried smokey mountain or hooch? There is a page with reviews here (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp). Good luck, I hope you find something that might help you try to change your habit man.
Thanks for the info. I was hoping to find some very subjective opinions here, like a wine taster is to wine, but I'll check out the reviews and see what they mention.
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Just to add some helpful information, since I feel I can quit cold turkey on occasions when I want to, I thought I would say what helps. It may be some of the same info already mentioned, but without going through all the pages, any new comers to this thread might not see them.
You have to have a reason for quitting. Make that reason seem extremely important to you, whether a family member wants you to quit, you want to have better health, or you want to save money. I would say pick ONE to focus on and let the other reasons be icing on the cake when you quit. I'm a huge fan of Bruce Lee and look up to his level of dedication, and in his book, there is a quote that is in there saying " You can act into a new way of feeling, but you can't feel into a new way of acting". ACT like you are mentally tough, and you will become mentally tough eventually. ACT like the reason you choose to quit is an extremely important reason to you and what directs your everyday actions. It's ok to be fake or lie to yourself about how important it is to you. The longer you fake it, the more it will become real. If others know you are trying to quit, and they ask you how you are doing, tell them you are perfectly fine, even if it's lying. Say you haven't thought about it at all. If you keep lying to yourself about it, you will start to believe it. Also, act like someone is watching you at all times and you don't want to let them down. You are more likely to let yourself down than someone else.
When I made my decisions to stop (I guess I can't say quit) I would go an average of a few weeks to a couple months with no dip until I decided I just wanted to do it again out of boredom. It does get pretty boring sometimes on deployment. I would still have my last can, and I would say this is my last can and treat it as my last can. I would spare it as much as I could, and try to savor the last bit of it as if it were a long goodbye. It prepared me to know I wasn't going to have any, kind of like bringing closure to it.
IF you were like me, and you have friends or co-workers around you that dip, everyone would occasionally bum a dip off each other. Get them involved by telling them you are quitting and to not let you bum any off them. If they are anything like the people I am around, they would get pleasure in your pain when denying you any of theirs.
Look at your lip in the mirror. It heals pretty quick, but when constantly dipping, you would normally have that white wrinkly patch. Everyday you don't dip, it gets noticeably better. It's actually pretty good reinforcement to see the positive affects of quitting. It lets you know that what you are doing by quitting is actually helping.
I know a lot of this seems contradicting to my attitude about my habit, but I have found it relatively easy to just stop and not even think about dip and these are the methods I use.
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moving on
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Hey, I'm new here and didnt really want to do an introduction cause I'm probablya bad influence and thoroughly enjoy dipping, but I kind of want to stop for health reasons (I get PVCs when I dip a lot and have any alcohol along with anything with caffeine.) I pretty much joined to see if anyone knows where I can get kikit brand tobacco free chew. I have been looking online and can't find it anywhere. I feel likei can quit any time I want, and have been fine going cold turkey for weeks or months at a time, but just miss the satisfaction and contentment. I recently went a year and a half without cause I was in Australia and they don't sell it there, but as soon as I hit US soil I got some. I don't feel I have a nicotine addiction, I just have the habit. With that being said, I would do fine with just having a dip alternative in my mouth that seems real. I have tried bacoff and it's the most disgusting thing ever to me. It tastes like it had Pine Sol in it. I was walking into the commissary on day when I was in Hawaii and they were handing out free samples of kikit and I got two cans. The green can was the best dip alternative I've ever tried. It really feels like you have a dip in and even gives a little bit of a burn. The feel is perfect and it stays packed in your lip like a real dip, unlike the jerky chew that ends up hurting my lip more than real dip cause its so dry.
Does anyone know where to get it? Or if you've tried it before, know of anything extremely similar? I'm a Copenhagen straight user, and not really fond of the wintergreen or natural tasting ones. If anyone could give me some ideas so I don't have to waste too much money on buying everything to try and can eliminate some options right away, I would greatly appreciate it!
um...might have been the worst intro, message on a discussion board i've ever read since joining KTC 57 days ago.
first of all, you need to go to the intro page and maybe make an introduction to the rest of the 15000 members on here. If you think you can quit at any time then you would be quit right now. That type of talk will get you no where here.
if you are not an addict you wouldn't be here searching for something to help you quit...non addicts don't pick something that can kill them after putting it down for a year. You need a role model...i'm not him, but seriously...i'm so pissed off by this comment i could just scream. 'bang head'
Good luck
Sorry it's the worst intro ever, but the fact is, I don't want to quit dipping. I want to dip something else, and it's specifically made by kikit. I dip when I'm bored or doing specific things like playing video games or working in the yard. I don't dip because I need the nicotine. I used to bar tend and could go hours without even thinking about dipping. If I'm around certain people or where dipping seems a little inappropriate, I have no problems going without it and not even feeling any need for it. I just have an oral fixation. When I didn't dip while in Australia, I was snacking all the time. I didn't join to get help with quitting. I joined because people who are trying to quit probably have a good knowledge of the products out there and I specifically want a certain product or a very similar product that I plan on continually using in the place of tobacco dip. Everyone is different and has different levels of addiction, so you can't classify me in the same group that everyone else is in. A person will never succeed in quitting anything if they don't want to quit. I happen to not want to quit, but still have enough awareness to want to find an alternative. I don't want to chew gum, the salt in seeds and the hardness of the shells hurt my gums and cheek even more than dip and I find it to be even more inconveniencing than just spitting in a bottle. I'm sorry I don't have the same goals as most people on here, but maybe you just find the needs to try to outcast anyone who doesn't have the same goal as you, or maybe you take offense to the fact, whether you believe it or not, I CAN quit dipping whenever I want and not be a wreck for days after. Whenever I started back up again, it's because I chose to, not because I felt I needed to. I just enjoy it and as of right now, I don't havea desire to quit. A lot of times I decided to quit was because of the price jumping up to $6-$8 a can, or while on deployment, the lack of selection and freshness. Right now I can still get it for under$3 and I know it's bad for your health, but these days, just being alive is bad for your health.
So basically, I didn't join to get help with quitting, or get lectured, or brag about anything. I just wanted to get some info on some products. If that's too much to ask, then maybe you should be taking some stress management classes to deal with your withdrawals.
This is a quit site for those who want accountability in the effort to kill the can. A brotherhood who work together by publically posting our intent to quit every damn day. If you don't want to join - look at the link and be gone.
http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp)
In closing, nicotine is an addictive substance and that 'satisfaction and contentment' your craving is an addiction - stop sugar coating it.
1- as mentioned this is a nicotene cessation site. So if you want to quit (and from what you say you do not) this is the place.
2- there is one point that you say is correct, if you want to quit to will find a way, if you do not want to quit, then you will not.
3 - nicotene is an addictive substance, the strongest that is on this Earth. So do not kid yourself here. You said about not dipping but you were snacking (well there is the telling word as you were replacing one thing with another).
I will just say to tell you I hope you find what you are looking for while just wasting your money to those who have the wrong idea about what is good and bad for your body. Cause if you just quit it, you can enjoy the sugarfree gum, candy and other beneficial things in life.
And when you lose your jaw, well you can say we told you so.
Guys, clearly he is just looking for some info from people "trying" to quit. Clearly he is in the wrong place, no here is trying to quit.
Also, As an aside, you may have stopped for a while but clearly you are no quitter. If you think you can quit anytime, that is awesome. But all of us had multiple stops so you ain't no special butterfly.
Best of luck to you, and that link to the alternative non nicotine chews is pretty amazing. Of you ever do decide to quit, come on back. We will be here.
So . . . let me get this straight. You find satisfaction and contentment in a poison that causes you to have PVCs! Why do I find that to be just a bit off cue? :blink:
This really isn't the "worst" intro. It's the saddest!
I get only a mild case of PVCs, and it's only when I have an abundance of nicotine, alcohol and caffeine in the same period and it's probably not helping that I recently moved to Denver with the lower oxygen concentration in the air here. In the 12 years I've been dipping, I've only had two instances that have lasted about a week, including the present where I have had any noticeable sensations. The first time was during a port visit where I was smoking cuban cigars with dip in and lots of beer and soda for about two days. And you have to be kidding yourself if you didn't know of the "poisons" before ever taking your first dip, so don't sit here and try to lecture me about knowing how bad dip is. If you didn't know if was bad for you to begin with, you are just a plain idiot.
It's one thing to learn you're an idiot and stop being one.
It's quite another thing to know your an idiot and keep being one.
Kikit's Facebook page states that the company is temporarily out of business. I think you might be in trouble finding the stuff.
However, from experience, I will tell you the act of chewing without nicotine loses its appeal quickly. Many of us have used or use alternatives.
Why are you looking for alternatives if you like chewing so much?
I really appreciate your response and thank you for that info. With the lack of info I could find on it and their website not working I figured as much.
I have tried some of the alternatives and I know exactly what you mean by it losing it's appeal, which is why I was looking specifically for kikit. Some of the alternatives I've tried do lose their appeal because they seem nothing like dip. Bac off is pretty similar but I couldn't stand the chemical taste it had to it. I'm sure as most of you know, the effect of nicotine only lasts so long, and I'm not sure of the details, but I think I remember it being something like 2 weeks. So obviously, after a year and a half, I'm not addicted to nicotine anymore, and I didn't choose to dip again because of the nicotine. I just feel comfort from having it in my lip for some reason, just as someone who sucks their thumb has comfort sucking their thumb. I'm willing to admit that my habit is as infantile as that. So having an alternative would work for me, and for those of you that haven't tried kikit, you probably can't understand what I'm talking about. My guess is that most of the alternatives try to obtain a look and feel of dip and have to cover up the taste of whatever they use with more intense flavorings. Kikit was just shredded coconut and had some flavors and hot sauce, and even though it looked nothing like dip, it was the most realistic one I've tried, and after you get the nicotine out of your system, it's probably just as good. Except you don't have to spit. They have (had) a natural coconut flavor one that tasted just like coconut with a bit of citrus and it was a little too sweet for me and just tasted like candy. But the green can was awesome.
Even thought I'm not exactly looking to quit, if I had something that was just as good to me or close, I would gladly do that over dip. I know cancer and losing your jaw is good enough reason to quit, but my mentality seems to make me ignore that. That doesn't make me any less of a person than anyone else here. Everyone has to have a reason to quit, whether it just becomes an idea one day and they keep telling themselves every day that they are and eventually make an effort to, or some dramatic eye opening emotional event happens and they immediately make a huge effort to quit. I know it's not good for me, and I'm in a situation where I'm moving in about a month to a backwoods part of FL where everyone dips, so it's socially acceptable and being a veteran, I was around it all the time in the military, so against better judgement and logic, my brain still tells me it's ok after seeing everyone else around me doing it. It's just human nature.
When I move, I'll be living with my kids for the first time in 6 years, and they don't want me doing it, so I will eventually decide to quit. My ex that I'm getting back with smokes, and i hate cigarettes, and I would have no problem giving up dipping for her to quit, and we've talked about that already. Those will be my reasons for when I decide to quit, and they may not be the same as everyone else's reasons, but everyone has different ones. I seem to be getting a lot of hostility for being honest and a lot of criticism because I have my own opinions about myself. I expected a little more understanding from a group that is here to try to HELP one another, and regardless of my intentions on quitting, I have been asking for a dip alternative similar to one I've tried which would result in me quitting.
First of all, there are some good alternatives out there. Look around and try them. You'll be surprised how "realistic" some are (for example....smokey mountain snuff's cherry is spot on to skoal's cherry), but I've heard many people make many complaints about any alternative: not as much of a lip burn, sticky and stains your fingers, etc.
It sounds to me like you don't believe you can quit and that you are destined to want that plug in your lip forever. Here's the thing: you don't. Your "few weeks and few months" at a time are the most common times for people to go back to "in boredom" (and, also, because these times are when physical "funks" in a quit happen. We see it here everyday at around 30 days and as far as 225 days.).
You can do this. You just need to want to in both the good times and the bad. There is no magical trick or formula that can make you quit. It's consistency. There's nothing wrong with hitting seeds or alternatives in times of need, but if you want to be quit....be quit. You have a lot of excuses and justifications. A lot.
Please take the time to objectively look at yourself. No masks. No tough man attitude. Look at how many times you can put yourself through physical hell. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again looking for different results.
You can do this
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Hey, I'm new here and didnt really want to do an introduction cause I'm probablya bad influence and thoroughly enjoy dipping, but I kind of want to stop for health reasons (I get PVCs when I dip a lot and have any alcohol along with anything with caffeine.) I pretty much joined to see if anyone knows where I can get kikit brand tobacco free chew. I have been looking online and can't find it anywhere. I feel likei can quit any time I want, and have been fine going cold turkey for weeks or months at a time, but just miss the satisfaction and contentment. I recently went a year and a half without cause I was in Australia and they don't sell it there, but as soon as I hit US soil I got some. I don't feel I have a nicotine addiction, I just have the habit. With that being said, I would do fine with just having a dip alternative in my mouth that seems real. I have tried bacoff and it's the most disgusting thing ever to me. It tastes like it had Pine Sol in it. I was walking into the commissary on day when I was in Hawaii and they were handing out free samples of kikit and I got two cans. The green can was the best dip alternative I've ever tried. It really feels like you have a dip in and even gives a little bit of a burn. The feel is perfect and it stays packed in your lip like a real dip, unlike the jerky chew that ends up hurting my lip more than real dip cause its so dry.
Does anyone know where to get it? Or if you've tried it before, know of anything extremely similar? I'm a Copenhagen straight user, and not really fond of the wintergreen or natural tasting ones. If anyone could give me some ideas so I don't have to waste too much money on buying everything to try and can eliminate some options right away, I would greatly appreciate it!
um...might have been the worst intro, message on a discussion board i've ever read since joining KTC 57 days ago.
first of all, you need to go to the intro page and maybe make an introduction to the rest of the 15000 members on here. If you think you can quit at any time then you would be quit right now. That type of talk will get you no where here.
if you are not an addict you wouldn't be here searching for something to help you quit...non addicts don't pick something that can kill them after putting it down for a year. You need a role model...i'm not him, but seriously...i'm so pissed off by this comment i could just scream. 'bang head'
Good luck
Sorry it's the worst intro ever, but the fact is, I don't want to quit dipping. I want to dip something else, and it's specifically made by kikit. I dip when I'm bored or doing specific things like playing video games or working in the yard. I don't dip because I need the nicotine. I used to bar tend and could go hours without even thinking about dipping. If I'm around certain people or where dipping seems a little inappropriate, I have no problems going without it and not even feeling any need for it. I just have an oral fixation. When I didn't dip while in Australia, I was snacking all the time. I didn't join to get help with quitting. I joined because people who are trying to quit probably have a good knowledge of the products out there and I specifically want a certain product or a very similar product that I plan on continually using in the place of tobacco dip. Everyone is different and has different levels of addiction, so you can't classify me in the same group that everyone else is in. A person will never succeed in quitting anything if they don't want to quit. I happen to not want to quit, but still have enough awareness to want to find an alternative. I don't want to chew gum, the salt in seeds and the hardness of the shells hurt my gums and cheek even more than dip and I find it to be even more inconveniencing than just spitting in a bottle. I'm sorry I don't have the same goals as most people on here, but maybe you just find the needs to try to outcast anyone who doesn't have the same goal as you, or maybe you take offense to the fact, whether you believe it or not, I CAN quit dipping whenever I want and not be a wreck for days after. Whenever I started back up again, it's because I chose to, not because I felt I needed to. I just enjoy it and as of right now, I don't havea desire to quit. A lot of times I decided to quit was because of the price jumping up to $6-$8 a can, or while on deployment, the lack of selection and freshness. Right now I can still get it for under$3 and I know it's bad for your health, but these days, just being alive is bad for your health.
So basically, I didn't join to get help with quitting, or get lectured, or brag about anything. I just wanted to get some info on some products. If that's too much to ask, then maybe you should be taking some stress management classes to deal with your withdrawals.
This is a quit site for those who want accountability in the effort to kill the can. A brotherhood who work together by publically posting our intent to quit every damn day. If you don't want to join - look at the link and be gone.
http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp)
In closing, nicotine is an addictive substance and that 'satisfaction and contentment' your craving is an addiction - stop sugar coating it.
1- as mentioned this is a nicotene cessation site. So if you want to quit (and from what you say you do not) this is the place.
2- there is one point that you say is correct, if you want to quit to will find a way, if you do not want to quit, then you will not.
3 - nicotene is an addictive substance, the strongest that is on this Earth. So do not kid yourself here. You said about not dipping but you were snacking (well there is the telling word as you were replacing one thing with another).
I will just say to tell you I hope you find what you are looking for while just wasting your money to those who have the wrong idea about what is good and bad for your body. Cause if you just quit it, you can enjoy the sugarfree gum, candy and other beneficial things in life.
And when you lose your jaw, well you can say we told you so.
Guys, clearly he is just looking for some info from people "trying" to quit. Clearly he is in the wrong place, no here is trying to quit.
Also, As an aside, you may have stopped for a while but clearly you are no quitter. If you think you can quit anytime, that is awesome. But all of us had multiple stops so you ain't no special butterfly.
Best of luck to you, and that link to the alternative non nicotine chews is pretty amazing. Of you ever do decide to quit, come on back. We will be here.
So . . . let me get this straight. You find satisfaction and contentment in a poison that causes you to have PVCs! Why do I find that to be just a bit off cue? :blink:
This really isn't the "worst" intro. It's the saddest!
I get only a mild case of PVCs, and it's only when I have an abundance of nicotine, alcohol and caffeine in the same period and it's probably not helping that I recently moved to Denver with the lower oxygen concentration in the air here. In the 12 years I've been dipping, I've only had two instances that have lasted about a week, including the present where I have had any noticeable sensations. The first time was during a port visit where I was smoking cuban cigars with dip in and lots of beer and soda for about two days. And you have to be kidding yourself if you didn't know of the "poisons" before ever taking your first dip, so don't sit here and try to lecture me about knowing how bad dip is. If you didn't know if was bad for you to begin with, you are just a plain idiot.
It's one thing to learn you're an idiot and stop being one.
It's quite another thing to know your an idiot and keep being one.
Kikit's Facebook page states that the company is temporarily out of business. I think you might be in trouble finding the stuff.
However, from experience, I will tell you the act of chewing without nicotine loses its appeal quickly. Many of us have used or use alternatives.
Why are you looking for alternatives if you like chewing so much?
I really appreciate your response and thank you for that info. With the lack of info I could find on it and their website not working I figured as much.
I have tried some of the alternatives and I know exactly what you mean by it losing it's appeal, which is why I was looking specifically for kikit. Some of the alternatives I've tried do lose their appeal because they seem nothing like dip. Bac off is pretty similar but I couldn't stand the chemical taste it had to it. I'm sure as most of you know, the effect of nicotine only lasts so long, and I'm not sure of the details, but I think I remember it being something like 2 weeks. So obviously, after a year and a half, I'm not addicted to nicotine anymore, and I didn't choose to dip again because of the nicotine. I just feel comfort from having it in my lip for some reason, just as someone who sucks their thumb has comfort sucking their thumb. I'm willing to admit that my habit is as infantile as that. So having an alternative would work for me, and for those of you that haven't tried kikit, you probably can't understand what I'm talking about. My guess is that most of the alternatives try to obtain a look and feel of dip and have to cover up the taste of whatever they use with more intense flavorings. Kikit was just shredded coconut and had some flavors and hot sauce, and even though it looked nothing like dip, it was the most realistic one I've tried, and after you get the nicotine out of your system, it's probably just as good. Except you don't have to spit. They have (had) a natural coconut flavor one that tasted just like coconut with a bit of citrus and it was a little too sweet for me and just tasted like candy. But the green can was awesome.
Even thought I'm not exactly looking to quit, if I had something that was just as good to me or close, I would gladly do that over dip. I know cancer and losing your jaw is good enough reason to quit, but my mentality seems to make me ignore that. That doesn't make me any less of a person than anyone else here. Everyone has to have a reason to quit, whether it just becomes an idea one day and they keep telling themselves every day that they are and eventually make an effort to, or some dramatic eye opening emotional event happens and they immediately make a huge effort to quit. I know it's not good for me, and I'm in a situation where I'm moving in about a month to a backwoods part of FL where everyone dips, so it's socially acceptable and being a veteran, I was around it all the time in the military, so against better judgement and logic, my brain still tells me it's ok after seeing everyone else around me doing it. It's just human nature.
When I move, I'll be living with my kids for the first time in 6 years, and they don't want me doing it, so I will eventually decide to quit. My ex that I'm getting back with smokes, and i hate cigarettes, and I would have no problem giving up dipping for her to quit, and we've talked about that already. Those will be my reasons for when I decide to quit, and they may not be the same as everyone else's reasons, but everyone has different ones. I seem to be getting a lot of hostility for being honest and a lot of criticism because I have my own opinions about myself. I expected a little more understanding from a group that is here to try to HELP one another, and regardless of my intentions on quitting, I have been asking for a dip alternative similar to one I've tried which would result in me quitting.
First of all, there are some good alternatives out there. Look around and try them. You'll be surprised how "realistic" some are (for example....smokey mountain snuff's cherry is spot on to skoal's cherry), but I've heard many people make many complaints about any alternative: not as much of a lip burn, sticky and stains your fingers, etc.
It sounds to me like you don't believe you can quit and that you are destined to want that plug in your lip forever. Here's the thing: you don't. Your "few weeks and few months" at a time are the most common times for people to go back to "in boredom" (and, also, because these times are when physical "funks" in a quit happen. We see it here everyday at around 30 days and as far as 225 days.).
You can do this. You just need to want to in both the good times and the bad. There is no magical trick or formula that can make you quit. It's consistency. There's nothing wrong with hitting seeds or alternatives in times of need, but if you want to be quit....be quit. You have a lot of excuses and justifications. A lot.
Please take the time to objectively look at yourself. No masks. No tough man attitude. Look at how many times you can put yourself through physical hell. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again looking for different results.
You can do this
We aren't being hostile, we are trying to get you to see that you are just spewing addict speak. You love the stuff still, but know it may kill you? You can quit anytime? Bullshit. If you could quit you would be quit. Stopping for periods of time is not quitting, we all have done that as well.
You my friend are an addict, just like the rest of us. The difference is we have faced up to that and are managing our addictions without putting the cancer causing crap in our mouths. We all chose to quit being a slave to the can, we are improving our health, behaviors and finances while you are still getting mini panic attacks and racing around looking for that next fix.
Please read more about nicotine addiction and addiction in general. You can be quit, but you have to want it. The first step is being honest with yourself.
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Hey, I'm new here and didnt really want to do an introduction cause I'm probablya bad influence and thoroughly enjoy dipping, but I kind of want to stop for health reasons (I get PVCs when I dip a lot and have any alcohol along with anything with caffeine.) I pretty much joined to see if anyone knows where I can get kikit brand tobacco free chew. I have been looking online and can't find it anywhere. I feel likei can quit any time I want, and have been fine going cold turkey for weeks or months at a time, but just miss the satisfaction and contentment. I recently went a year and a half without cause I was in Australia and they don't sell it there, but as soon as I hit US soil I got some. I don't feel I have a nicotine addiction, I just have the habit. With that being said, I would do fine with just having a dip alternative in my mouth that seems real. I have tried bacoff and it's the most disgusting thing ever to me. It tastes like it had Pine Sol in it. I was walking into the commissary on day when I was in Hawaii and they were handing out free samples of kikit and I got two cans. The green can was the best dip alternative I've ever tried. It really feels like you have a dip in and even gives a little bit of a burn. The feel is perfect and it stays packed in your lip like a real dip, unlike the jerky chew that ends up hurting my lip more than real dip cause its so dry.
Does anyone know where to get it? Or if you've tried it before, know of anything extremely similar? I'm a Copenhagen straight user, and not really fond of the wintergreen or natural tasting ones. If anyone could give me some ideas so I don't have to waste too much money on buying everything to try and can eliminate some options right away, I would greatly appreciate it!
um...might have been the worst intro, message on a discussion board i've ever read since joining KTC 57 days ago.
first of all, you need to go to the intro page and maybe make an introduction to the rest of the 15000 members on here. If you think you can quit at any time then you would be quit right now. That type of talk will get you no where here.
if you are not an addict you wouldn't be here searching for something to help you quit...non addicts don't pick something that can kill them after putting it down for a year. You need a role model...i'm not him, but seriously...i'm so pissed off by this comment i could just scream. 'bang head'
Good luck
Sorry it's the worst intro ever, but the fact is, I don't want to quit dipping. I want to dip something else, and it's specifically made by kikit. I dip when I'm bored or doing specific things like playing video games or working in the yard. I don't dip because I need the nicotine. I used to bar tend and could go hours without even thinking about dipping. If I'm around certain people or where dipping seems a little inappropriate, I have no problems going without it and not even feeling any need for it. I just have an oral fixation. When I didn't dip while in Australia, I was snacking all the time. I didn't join to get help with quitting. I joined because people who are trying to quit probably have a good knowledge of the products out there and I specifically want a certain product or a very similar product that I plan on continually using in the place of tobacco dip. Everyone is different and has different levels of addiction, so you can't classify me in the same group that everyone else is in. A person will never succeed in quitting anything if they don't want to quit. I happen to not want to quit, but still have enough awareness to want to find an alternative. I don't want to chew gum, the salt in seeds and the hardness of the shells hurt my gums and cheek even more than dip and I find it to be even more inconveniencing than just spitting in a bottle. I'm sorry I don't have the same goals as most people on here, but maybe you just find the needs to try to outcast anyone who doesn't have the same goal as you, or maybe you take offense to the fact, whether you believe it or not, I CAN quit dipping whenever I want and not be a wreck for days after. Whenever I started back up again, it's because I chose to, not because I felt I needed to. I just enjoy it and as of right now, I don't havea desire to quit. A lot of times I decided to quit was because of the price jumping up to $6-$8 a can, or while on deployment, the lack of selection and freshness. Right now I can still get it for under$3 and I know it's bad for your health, but these days, just being alive is bad for your health.
So basically, I didn't join to get help with quitting, or get lectured, or brag about anything. I just wanted to get some info on some products. If that's too much to ask, then maybe you should be taking some stress management classes to deal with your withdrawals.
This is a quit site for those who want accountability in the effort to kill the can. A brotherhood who work together by publically posting our intent to quit every damn day. If you don't want to join - look at the link and be gone.
http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp)
In closing, nicotine is an addictive substance and that 'satisfaction and contentment' your craving is an addiction - stop sugar coating it.
1- as mentioned this is a nicotene cessation site. So if you want to quit (and from what you say you do not) this is the place.
2- there is one point that you say is correct, if you want to quit to will find a way, if you do not want to quit, then you will not.
3 - nicotene is an addictive substance, the strongest that is on this Earth. So do not kid yourself here. You said about not dipping but you were snacking (well there is the telling word as you were replacing one thing with another).
I will just say to tell you I hope you find what you are looking for while just wasting your money to those who have the wrong idea about what is good and bad for your body. Cause if you just quit it, you can enjoy the sugarfree gum, candy and other beneficial things in life.
And when you lose your jaw, well you can say we told you so.
Guys, clearly he is just looking for some info from people "trying" to quit. Clearly he is in the wrong place, no here is trying to quit.
Also, As an aside, you may have stopped for a while but clearly you are no quitter. If you think you can quit anytime, that is awesome. But all of us had multiple stops so you ain't no special butterfly.
Best of luck to you, and that link to the alternative non nicotine chews is pretty amazing. Of you ever do decide to quit, come on back. We will be here.
So . . . let me get this straight. You find satisfaction and contentment in a poison that causes you to have PVCs! Why do I find that to be just a bit off cue? :blink:
This really isn't the "worst" intro. It's the saddest!
I get only a mild case of PVCs, and it's only when I have an abundance of nicotine, alcohol and caffeine in the same period and it's probably not helping that I recently moved to Denver with the lower oxygen concentration in the air here. In the 12 years I've been dipping, I've only had two instances that have lasted about a week, including the present where I have had any noticeable sensations. The first time was during a port visit where I was smoking cuban cigars with dip in and lots of beer and soda for about two days. And you have to be kidding yourself if you didn't know of the "poisons" before ever taking your first dip, so don't sit here and try to lecture me about knowing how bad dip is. If you didn't know if was bad for you to begin with, you are just a plain idiot.
It's one thing to learn you're an idiot and stop being one.
It's quite another thing to know your an idiot and keep being one.
Kikit's Facebook page states that the company is temporarily out of business. I think you might be in trouble finding the stuff.
However, from experience, I will tell you the act of chewing without nicotine loses its appeal quickly. Many of us have used or use alternatives.
Why are you looking for alternatives if you like chewing so much?
I really appreciate your response and thank you for that info. With the lack of info I could find on it and their website not working I figured as much.
I have tried some of the alternatives and I know exactly what you mean by it losing it's appeal, which is why I was looking specifically for kikit. Some of the alternatives I've tried do lose their appeal because they seem nothing like dip. Bac off is pretty similar but I couldn't stand the chemical taste it had to it. I'm sure as most of you know, the effect of nicotine only lasts so long, and I'm not sure of the details, but I think I remember it being something like 2 weeks. So obviously, after a year and a half, I'm not addicted to nicotine anymore, and I didn't choose to dip again because of the nicotine. I just feel comfort from having it in my lip for some reason, just as someone who sucks their thumb has comfort sucking their thumb. I'm willing to admit that my habit is as infantile as that. So having an alternative would work for me, and for those of you that haven't tried kikit, you probably can't understand what I'm talking about. My guess is that most of the alternatives try to obtain a look and feel of dip and have to cover up the taste of whatever they use with more intense flavorings. Kikit was just shredded coconut and had some flavors and hot sauce, and even though it looked nothing like dip, it was the most realistic one I've tried, and after you get the nicotine out of your system, it's probably just as good. Except you don't have to spit. They have (had) a natural coconut flavor one that tasted just like coconut with a bit of citrus and it was a little too sweet for me and just tasted like candy. But the green can was awesome.
Even thought I'm not exactly looking to quit, if I had something that was just as good to me or close, I would gladly do that over dip. I know cancer and losing your jaw is good enough reason to quit, but my mentality seems to make me ignore that. That doesn't make me any less of a person than anyone else here. Everyone has to have a reason to quit, whether it just becomes an idea one day and they keep telling themselves every day that they are and eventually make an effort to, or some dramatic eye opening emotional event happens and they immediately make a huge effort to quit. I know it's not good for me, and I'm in a situation where I'm moving in about a month to a backwoods part of FL where everyone dips, so it's socially acceptable and being a veteran, I was around it all the time in the military, so against better judgement and logic, my brain still tells me it's ok after seeing everyone else around me doing it. It's just human nature.
When I move, I'll be living with my kids for the first time in 6 years, and they don't want me doing it, so I will eventually decide to quit. My ex that I'm getting back with smokes, and i hate cigarettes, and I would have no problem giving up dipping for her to quit, and we've talked about that already. Those will be my reasons for when I decide to quit, and they may not be the same as everyone else's reasons, but everyone has different ones. I seem to be getting a lot of hostility for being honest and a lot of criticism because I have my own opinions about myself. I expected a little more understanding from a group that is here to try to HELP one another, and regardless of my intentions on quitting, I have been asking for a dip alternative similar to one I've tried which would result in me quitting.
First of all, there are some good alternatives out there. Look around and try them. You'll be surprised how "realistic" some are (for example....smokey mountain snuff's cherry is spot on to skoal's cherry), but I've heard many people make many complaints about any alternative: not as much of a lip burn, sticky and stains your fingers, etc.
It sounds to me like you don't believe you can quit and that you are destined to want that plug in your lip forever. Here's the thing: you don't. Your "few weeks and few months" at a time are the most common times for people to go back to "in boredom" (and, also, because these times are when physical "funks" in a quit happen. We see it here everyday at around 30 days and as far as 225 days.).
You can do this. You just need to want to in both the good times and the bad. There is no magical trick or formula that can make you quit. It's consistency. There's nothing wrong with hitting seeds or alternatives in times of need, but if you want to be quit....be quit. You have a lot of excuses and justifications. A lot.
Please take the time to objectively look at yourself. No masks. No tough man attitude. Look at how many times you can put yourself through physical hell. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again looking for different results.
You can do this
We aren't being hostile, we are trying to get you to see that you are just spewing addict speak. You love the stuff still, but know it may kill you? You can quit anytime? Bullshit. If you could quit you would be quit. Stopping for periods of time is not quitting, we all have done that as well.
You my friend are an addict, just like the rest of us. The difference is we have faced up to that and are managing our addictions without putting the cancer causing crap in our mouths. We all chose to quit being a slave to the can, we are improving our health, behaviors and finances while you are still getting mini panic attacks and racing around looking for that next fix.
Please read more about nicotine addiction and addiction in general. You can be quit, but you have to want it. The first step is being honest with yourself.
You need to understand, my friend, that we hate this crap and what it did to our lives. We see it as a life-sucking enemy. So if you want to quit we will line up on your side and do whatever we can to help. But we repulse anything that even looks like aiding you to continue dipping. We care about you more than that. Your life is worth far more than being a slave to your addiction.
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New blog post: TeaZa Herbal Energy Pouch Review
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I didn't dip for over 450 days this last time. I didn't start again cause I felt the need to. I just wanted to. I couldn't even keep one in very long when I first started again and actually didn't really care for it much. I made a concious decision to do it, and if I didn't want to, it would have been easy to stay away from it cause I want even liking it at first. I know that's not the mentality everyone here wants to hear, but it is what it is. I did just order the 5 can sample from Smoky Mountain so should get that in soon. I just like to dip, so if this stuff is just as good, I'll be happy to switch. I was nevera big fan of cherry skoal. I think every time I had some of that I was sitting on the toilet within 5 min. I got some straight and some of the mint and wintergreen and even some pouches for my friend to try just to give him an alternative to try out too.
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Oh and I thought I would ask if there are any negatives about the tobacco and nicotine free stuff?
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Oh and I thought I would ask if there are any negatives about the tobacco and nicotine free stuff?
Sticky, and makes a mess of your hands. There's some preservatives in it that some people have objections over. I also quit because I was tired of seeing pictures of me with big plugs in and my son imitated me packing a can with beef jerky. I've never felt so low in my life.
If you want to quit, we can help. We do it everyday.
Do you want to quit?
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Oh and I thought I would ask if there are any negatives about the tobacco and nicotine free stuff?
Sticky, and makes a mess of your hands. There's some preservatives in it that some people have objections over. I also quit because I was tired of seeing pictures of me with big plugs in and my son imitated me packing a can with beef jerky. I've never felt so low in my life.
If you want to quit, we can help. We do it everyday.
Do you want to quit?
No panel...he's not interested in quitting. He likes it. He just wants something that looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and won't kill him like a duck. Good duck, er, luck.
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I just like to dip, so if this stuff is just as good, I'll be happy to switch.Â
My bet is that you aren't going to like it. You may like the flavor well enough but it doesn't have nicotine and won't satisfy your addiction.
Hopefully it will not be too late when you learn that it's your addiction that is driving your behaviors.
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I didn't start again cause I felt the need to. I just wanted to.
Me too! For 38 years! Actually I never even tried to quit before because I wasn't an addict and really enjoyed it. For 38 motherfucking years!
I made a concious decision to do it, and if I didn't want to, it would have been easy to stay away from it cause I want even liking it at first.
Does this sentence even make sense to you? Let's see, I made a concious decision to stick myself with random used hypodermic needles from the medical waste dump, didn't like it at first so that proves I can quit doing it when I want to. :blink:
Nicotine is a seriously addictive drug. We all know it controled our behaviors, moods and thought process when we were users. It is amazing that it affects EVERYONE except you that way...
(Edited to fix quotes-WP)
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I didn't dip for over 450 days this last time. I didn't start again cause I felt the need to. I just wanted to. I couldn't even keep one in very long when I first started again and actually didn't really care for it much. I made a concious decision to do it, and if I didn't want to, it would have been easy to stay away from it cause I want even liking it at first. I know that's not the mentality everyone here wants to hear, but it is what it is. I did just order the 5 can sample from Smoky Mountain so should get that in soon. I just like to dip, so if this stuff is just as good, I'll be happy to switch. I was nevera big fan of cherry skoal. I think every time I had some of that I was sitting on the toilet within 5 min. I got some straight and some of the mint and wintergreen and even some pouches for my friend to try just to give him an alternative to try out too.
This is real easy. I'm not going to mince words. This is a nicotine abstinence site. If you want to continue using that shit, then by all means, please continue. But get get off our site.
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I didn't dip for over 450 days this last time. I didn't start again cause I felt the need to. I just wanted to. I couldn't even keep one in very long when I first started again and actually didn't really care for it much. I made a concious decision to do it, and if I didn't want to, it would have been easy to stay away from it cause I want even liking it at first. I know that's not the mentality everyone here wants to hear, but it is what it is. I did just order the 5 can sample from Smoky Mountain so should get that in soon. I just like to dip, so if this stuff is just as good, I'll be happy to switch. I was nevera big fan of cherry skoal. I think every time I had some of that I was sitting on the toilet within 5 min. I got some straight and some of the mint and wintergreen and even some pouches for my friend to try just to give him an alternative to try out too.
This is real easy. I'm not going to mince words. This is a nicotine abstinence site. If you want to continue using that shit, then by all means, please continue. But get get off our site.
Agreed. If you want to quit you are welcome but take that Bullshit you are posting and do it elsewhere...
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First day with no nicotine and I think I'm going crazy at work...Geez. Still going to do this though. Bought lots of gum to help me get through the day.
This is going to be the toughest battle yet in my life.
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First day with no nicotine and I think I'm going crazy at work...Geez. Still going to do this though. Bought lots of gum to help me get through the day.
This is going to be the toughest battle yet in my life.
Nice job posting roll. And yes, this is a very difficult battle. You have to be committed to the fight every day. Posting roll early, giving your word and then keeping your word, make the fight a lot easier. Craves are a mind game. When you get them jump into chat or read the Intros and HOF speeches to get your mind back in proper form.
I was useless for the first month of my quit, so it sounds like everything is going good and according to plan.
Welcome to KTC!
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First day with no nicotine and I think I'm going crazy at work...Geez. Still going to do this though. Bought lots of gum to help me get through the day.
This is going to be the toughest battle yet in my life.
kon, post in roll call..
it is a one day at a time, sometime 30 seconds at a time thing.
No nicotine is a bitch but it is the ONLY way. There are non-nicotine alternatives for the oral stuff.
I had to go on a medication to help with the anxiety. My doc put me on Zoloft about 30 days into my quit.
I do still use the Smoky Mountain herbal dip-(NO tobacco/nicotine), and David's Jumbo Seeds, and Eclipse Wintermint gum.
it gets better.
it takes some time for the nic bitch to quit playing the physical/mental mindfuck.. You have to ride that bitch like a nasty bull and don't let it throw you.. keep your eye on today..
and check in in the Intro section
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My name is Harry. I am an addict. Today is day one for me! This site looks great and I hope to meet new people and make new friends who are going through this journey together!
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My name is Harry. I am an addict. Today is day one for me! This site looks great and I hope to meet new people and make new friends who are going through this journey together!
Ton of information and support here. Suggest you head over to Welcome Center (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13) then October 13 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=8419) and start posting your daily promise not to use nicotine in any shape, fashion or form.
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Is it normal for my jaw to ache a little? I have to keep opening and closing it cause its bugging the shit out of me today
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Is it normal for my jaw to ache a little? I have to keep opening and closing it cause its bugging the shit out of me today
Yep... absolutely normal. My jaw hurt like a son of a bitch for quite a while.
Keep doing what you're doing... quittin.
chewie
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Joined this site and my official quit date is gonna be the 11th of this month. Hope im as brave as the rest of you guys :o
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Joined this site and my official quit date is gonna be the 11th of this month. Hope im as brave as the rest of you guys :o
Be brave and do it now.
Then you won't have to hope.
(Hint: quitting is about doing. We don't hope here.)
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Joined this site and my official quit date is gonna be the 11th of this month. Hope im as brave as the rest of you guys :o
Be brave and do it now.
Then you won't have to hope.
(Hint: quitting is about doing. We don't hope here.)
Don't be a slave one minute longer.
Quit today and beat it down!
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Joined this site and my official quit date is gonna be the 11th of this month. Hope im as brave as the rest of you guys :o
Be brave and do it now.
Then you won't have to hope.
(Hint: quitting is about doing. We don't hope here.)
Don't be a slave one minute longer.
Quit today and beat it down!
If you wait until the 11th, when that day comes you will find a reason not to quit and set another date, then another date and another date and never quit! See a pattern here???? Flush the shit NOW and Don't look back!!!
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Joined this site and my official quit date is gonna be the 11th of this month. Hope im as brave as the rest of you guys :o
Be brave and do it now.
Then you won't have to hope.
(Hint: quitting is about doing. We don't hope here.)
Don't be a slave one minute longer.
Quit today and beat it down!
If you wait until the 11th, when that day comes you will find a reason not to quit and set another date, then another date and another date and never quit! See a pattern here???? Flush the shit NOW and Don't look back!!!
Good advice! Best to dump the shit now and get to quitting. Waiting will not make it easier..
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Joined this site and my official quit date is gonna be the 11th of this month. Hope im as brave as the rest of you guys :o
Be brave and do it now.
Then you won't have to hope.
(Hint: quitting is about doing. We don't hope here.)
Don't be a slave one minute longer.
Quit today and beat it down!
If you wait until the 11th, when that day comes you will find a reason not to quit and set another date, then another date and another date and never quit! See a pattern here???? Flush the shit NOW and Don't look back!!!
Good advice! Best to dump the shit now and get to quitting. Waiting will not make it easier..
What is so significant about the 11th? You need to gear up? When I quit, I had a quit date to start on a monday. (I wanted to finish my cans) Went into chat and quit right then, flushed it. Best thing I did and it was the right way to do it.
Right when you feel the need to quit, flush it! You don't need to gear up and you don't need to plan. KTC is the plan.
Jump in the cold water. Its cold and it will always be cold no matter what. Just go!
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Joined this site and my official quit date is gonna be the 11th of this month. Hope im as brave as the rest of you guys :o
Be brave and do it now.
Then you won't have to hope.
(Hint: quitting is about doing. We don't hope here.)
Don't be a slave one minute longer.
Quit today and beat it down!
If you wait until the 11th, when that day comes you will find a reason not to quit and set another date, then another date and another date and never quit! See a pattern here???? Flush the shit NOW and Don't look back!!!
Good advice! Best to dump the shit now and get to quitting. Waiting will not make it easier..
What is so significant about the 11th? You need to gear up? When I quit, I had a quit date to start on a monday. (I wanted to finish my cans) Went into chat and quit right then, flushed it. Best thing I did and it was the right way to do it.
Right when you feel the need to quit, flush it! You don't need to gear up and you don't need to plan. KTC is the plan.
Jump in the cold water. Its cold and it will always be cold no matter what. Just go!
There Is No Tomorrow! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BTeWyRTF60)
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Jump in the cold water.
Army Rangers?
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Joined this site and my official quit date is gonna be the 11th of this month. Hope im as brave as the rest of you guys :o
Be brave and do it now.
Then you won't have to hope.
(Hint: quitting is about doing. We don't hope here.)
Don't be a slave one minute longer.
Quit today and beat it down!
If you wait until the 11th, when that day comes you will find a reason not to quit and set another date, then another date and another date and never quit! See a pattern here???? Flush the shit NOW and Don't look back!!!
Good advice! Best to dump the shit now and get to quitting. Waiting will not make it easier..
What is so significant about the 11th? You need to gear up? When I quit, I had a quit date to start on a monday. (I wanted to finish my cans) Went into chat and quit right then, flushed it. Best thing I did and it was the right way to do it.
Right when you feel the need to quit, flush it! You don't need to gear up and you don't need to plan. KTC is the plan.
Jump in the cold water. Its cold and it will always be cold no matter what. Just go!
There Is No Tomorrow! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BTeWyRTF60)
It's the 11th. Are you here?
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This for the Administration...i thank you for this site...it has been a great find for me and i appreciate the work that has gone into and what continues to go into it. But can we please get rid of the trolls on here that are spewing nothing but hate and bullshit? It's one thing to go on a nic withdrawal fueled rant, it's a whole nother thing when someone comes on here and runs down everything this site stands for and boasts and brags about all their material possessions. I'm posting this on the open forum instead of pming it so i can gather some support from my fellow quitters...Thank you for allowing me to do so.
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Joined this site and my official quit date is gonna be the 11th of this month. Hope im as brave as the rest of you guys :o
Be brave and do it now.
Then you won't have to hope.
(Hint: quitting is about doing. We don't hope here.)
Don't be a slave one minute longer.
Quit today and beat it down!
If you wait until the 11th, when that day comes you will find a reason not to quit and set another date, then another date and another date and never quit! See a pattern here???? Flush the shit NOW and Don't look back!!!
Good advice! Best to dump the shit now and get to quitting. Waiting will not make it easier..
What is so significant about the 11th? You need to gear up? When I quit, I had a quit date to start on a monday. (I wanted to finish my cans) Went into chat and quit right then, flushed it. Best thing I did and it was the right way to do it.
Right when you feel the need to quit, flush it! You don't need to gear up and you don't need to plan. KTC is the plan.
Jump in the cold water. Its cold and it will always be cold no matter what. Just go!
There Is No Tomorrow! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BTeWyRTF60)
It's the 11th. Are you here?
Tomorrow never came. This is a bad re-run.
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Joined this site and my official quit date is gonna be the 11th of this month. Hope im as brave as the rest of you guys :o
Be brave and do it now.
Then you won't have to hope.
(Hint: quitting is about doing. We don't hope here.)
Don't be a slave one minute longer.
Quit today and beat it down!
If you wait until the 11th, when that day comes you will find a reason not to quit and set another date, then another date and another date and never quit! See a pattern here???? Flush the shit NOW and Don't look back!!!
Good advice! Best to dump the shit now and get to quitting. Waiting will not make it easier..
What is so significant about the 11th? You need to gear up? When I quit, I had a quit date to start on a monday. (I wanted to finish my cans) Went into chat and quit right then, flushed it. Best thing I did and it was the right way to do it.
Right when you feel the need to quit, flush it! You don't need to gear up and you don't need to plan. KTC is the plan.
Jump in the cold water. Its cold and it will always be cold no matter what. Just go!
There Is No Tomorrow! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BTeWyRTF60)
It's the 11th. Are you here?
Tomorrow never came. This is a bad re-run.
You're right, Evil. In my mind these stories are the saddest of all. The lifeboat pulled up beside Graphmo82, threw him a vest and he refused to wear it. Guess he just didn't really want to be saved.
You're gonna drown on you own, my friend.
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First day with no nicotine and I think I'm going crazy at work...Geez. Still going to do this though. Bought lots of gum to help me get through the day.
This is going to be the toughest battle yet in my life.
kon, post in roll call..
it is a one day at a time, sometime 30 seconds at a time thing.
No nicotine is a bitch but it is the ONLY way. There are non-nicotine alternatives for the oral stuff.
I had to go on a medication to help with the anxiety. My doc put me on Zoloft about 30 days into my quit.
I do still use the Smoky Mountain herbal dip-(NO tobacco/nicotine), and David's Jumbo Seeds, and Eclipse Wintermint gum.
it gets better.
it takes some time for the nic bitch to quit playing the physical/mental mindfuck.. You have to ride that bitch like a nasty bull and don't let it throw you.. keep your eye on today..
and check in in the Intro section
Really liked your info/story. I'm on day 20, doc also put me on zyban for the anxiety and mood swings. Thanks for the words of wisdom and knowing it will get better.
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Joined this site and my official quit date is gonna be the 11th of this month. Hope im as brave as the rest of you guys :o
Be brave and do it now.
Then you won't have to hope.
(Hint: quitting is about doing. We don't hope here.)
Don't be a slave one minute longer.
Quit today and beat it down!
If you wait until the 11th, when that day comes you will find a reason not to quit and set another date, then another date and another date and never quit! See a pattern here???? Flush the shit NOW and Don't look back!!!
Good advice! Best to dump the shit now and get to quitting. Waiting will not make it easier..
What is so significant about the 11th? You need to gear up? When I quit, I had a quit date to start on a monday. (I wanted to finish my cans) Went into chat and quit right then, flushed it. Best thing I did and it was the right way to do it.
Right when you feel the need to quit, flush it! You don't need to gear up and you don't need to plan. KTC is the plan.
Jump in the cold water. Its cold and it will always be cold no matter what. Just go!
There Is No Tomorrow! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BTeWyRTF60)
It's the 11th. Are you here?
Tomorrow never came. This is a bad re-run.
You're right, Evil. In my mind these stories are the saddest of all. The lifeboat pulled up beside Graphmo82, threw him a vest and he refused to wear it. Guess he just didn't really want to be saved.
You're gonna drown on you own, my friend.
Brave? 'crackup' most of us were a bunch of pussies the first weeks. But it gets better, promise!
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Joined this site and my official quit date is gonna be the 11th of this month. Hope im as brave as the rest of you guys :o
Be brave and do it now.
Then you won't have to hope.
(Hint: quitting is about doing. We don't hope here.)
Don't be a slave one minute longer.
Quit today and beat it down!
If you wait until the 11th, when that day comes you will find a reason not to quit and set another date, then another date and another date and never quit! See a pattern here???? Flush the shit NOW and Don't look back!!!
Good advice! Best to dump the shit now and get to quitting. Waiting will not make it easier..
What is so significant about the 11th? You need to gear up? When I quit, I had a quit date to start on a monday. (I wanted to finish my cans) Went into chat and quit right then, flushed it. Best thing I did and it was the right way to do it.
Right when you feel the need to quit, flush it! You don't need to gear up and you don't need to plan. KTC is the plan.
Jump in the cold water. Its cold and it will always be cold no matter what. Just go!
There Is No Tomorrow! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BTeWyRTF60)
It's the 11th. Are you here?
Tomorrow never came. This is a bad re-run.
You're right, Evil. In my mind these stories are the saddest of all. The lifeboat pulled up beside Graphmo82, threw him a vest and he refused to wear it. Guess he just didn't really want to be saved.
You're gonna drown on you own, my friend.
Brave? 'crackup' most of us were a bunch of pussies the first weeks. But it gets better, promise!
if you were to ask my friends and family, they swore I was preparing for brain surgery. I was a disaster for a solid two weeks.
But the light at the end of the tunnel is there and I have reached 140 days of taking my life back. Like Corey Crawford said about winning the cup... "fucking right, Chicago! Biggest bunch of beauties in the league, fucking worked their nuts off for this trophy! Wooo! No one will ever take this away from us! We're the champs!"
"no one will ever takes this away from us!"
ODAAT-NAFAR
I have finally found time to get my HOF speech in order. Its highly likely that this will end up in it. lol
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Alright, up into those double digits! Day 10 in the books! And i Gotta say it feels great! But i do have a question for anyone out there, as some of you may know im currently deployed and along with that comes already fucked up sleep hours, when the hell am i gonna be able to get a good nights rest. Literally walking up once an hour and its terrible. Its already hard enough as it is, and am gonna try to tackle some Melatonin tonight and see if that helps out. Any other suggestions? At this point anything helps if ya tell me to use a cactus as a pillow id prolly give that a shot too!
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Alright, up into those double digits! Day 10 in the books! And i Gotta say it feels great! But i do have a question for anyone out there, as some of you may know im currently deployed and along with that comes already fucked up sleep hours, when the hell am i gonna be able to get a good nights rest. Literally walking up once an hour and its terrible. Its already hard enough as it is, and am gonna try to tackle some Melatonin tonight and see if that helps out. Any other suggestions? At this point anything helps if ya tell me to use a cactus as a pillow id prolly give that a shot too!
Double digits is great, but I bet you dipped for a tad longer than double digits. Am I right? If so, then getting normal will take some time as your brain needs to rewire itself. You'll have to learn everything all over without dip. Like sleeping, driving, showering, shitting, waking up, dealing with stress, etc.
Use the small victories as fuel to keep going. Like food tasting better or better sex (sorry, bad example given your current situation?). The point is, focus on the good things to. It gets better...way better.
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Thought we could use some good news...this is good news indeed:
Tobacco Crops in Ruins Due to Heavy Rain (http://kstp.com/business/stories/S3096631.shtml?cat=1)
Yep. Let it rain, let it rain, let it rain.
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Oh man, on day 6 of no chew. I seem to have developed anxiety like no other but I'm headin to the dr tomorrow so hopefully I can some help!
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Oh man, on day 6 of no chew. I seem to have developed anxiety like no other but I'm headin to the dr tomorrow so hopefully I can some help!
Yo NewGuy, my middle name is anxiety. Smart move going to see the Doc. Nothing wrong with getting a little assist to take the edge off. You're body us in a fight, it doesn't know what the fuck to do, so its flippin out a little bit. You probably feel anxiousz nervous, jumpy, scared, and you chest is probably filled with heat and your heart's beating a light year a minute. Not everyone feels that way, but its not uncommon. I sure the fuck did. Got some anti anxiety meds and they helped tremendously. Hell I'm 408 days quit and still take them. The nic whore punked my ass. Had to learn to live my life without her, do things I had never done without, like be a Dad and a husband. Was tough but I fought her tooth and nail. Happy to report that today I feel like $800,900.00 and things will get better for you.
Create an intro page. Let us get to know you a little bit. Tell your story, the support you will get will be invaluable.
Stay quit.
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Oh man, on day 6 of no chew. I seem to have developed anxiety like no other but I'm headin to the dr tomorrow so hopefully I can some help!
Yo NewGuy, my middle name is anxiety. Smart move going to see the Doc. Nothing wrong with getting a little assist to take the edge off. You're body us in a fight, it doesn't know what the fuck to do, so its flippin out a little bit. You probably feel anxiousz nervous, jumpy, scared, and you chest is probably filled with heat and your heart's beating a light year a minute. Not everyone feels that way, but its not uncommon. I sure the fuck did. Got some anti anxiety meds and they helped tremendously. Hell I'm 408 days quit and still take them. The nic whore punked my ass. Had to learn to live my life without her, do things I had never done without, like be a Dad and a husband. Was tough but I fought her tooth and nail. Happy to report that today I feel like $800,900.00 and things will get better for you.
Create an intro page. Let us get to know you a little bit. Tell your story, the support you will get will be invaluable.
Stay quit.
I'm with diesel, start your intro and don't be afraid or ashamed of the anxiety. There is also a thread in the wildcard section on depression and anxiety, your not alone. Diesel and I may be crazy but by damn we are still quit!!!
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Thought we could use some good news...this is good news indeed:
Tobacco Crops in Ruins Due to Heavy Rain (http://kstp.com/business/stories/S3096631.shtml?cat=1)
Yep. Let it rain, let it rain, let it rain.
This is awesome...
And the last line of the story is side-splittingly ironic...
"ItÂ’s been too good to me over the years," he said. "I canÂ’t just up and quit."
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New blog post: Ode To Day 71 - Grumpiness And Anger When Quitting Dip
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/07/ode- ... tting-dip/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/07/ode-to-day-71-grumpiness-and-anger-when-quitting-dip/)
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Chewie hits seven tomorrow. Yes, that's seven YEARS. Let's all post with him:
index.php?showtopic=3 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=3)
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Chewie hits seven tomorrow. Yes, that's seven YEARS. Let's all post with him:
index.php?showtopic=3 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=3)
Thanks guys... but not quite. 7/24 will be 7 :) *blush*
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Chewie hits seven tomorrow. Yes, that's seven YEARS. Let's all post with him:
index.php?showtopic=3 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=3)
Thanks guys... but not quite. 7/24 will be 7 :) *blush*
Postponed until further notice. 'embarrassed'
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Chewie hits seven tomorrow. Yes, that's seven YEARS. Let's all post with him:
index.php?showtopic=3 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=3)
Thanks guys... but not quite. 7/24 will be 7 :) *blush*
Postponed until further notice. 'embarrassed'
Gmann...... 'crackup'
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Chewie hits seven tomorrow. Yes, that's seven YEARS. Let's all post with him:
index.php?showtopic=3 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=3)
Thanks guys... but not quite. 7/24 will be 7 :) *blush*
Postponed until further notice. 'embarrassed'
Gmann...... 'crackup'
At 7 we party all week long anyway!
'party2'
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Chewie hits seven tomorrow. Yes, that's seven YEARS. Let's all post with him:
index.php?showtopic=3 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=3)
Thanks guys... but not quite. 7/24 will be 7 :) *blush*
Postponed until further notice. 'embarrassed'
Gmann...... 'crackup'
At 7 we party all week long anyway!
'party2'
Still gonna slap ol chews on his firm, and supple hiney.
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Chewie hits seven tomorrow. Yes, that's seven YEARS. Let's all post with him:
index.php?showtopic=3 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=3)
Thanks guys... but not quite. 7/24 will be 7 :) *blush*
Postponed until further notice. 'embarrassed'
Gmann...... 'crackup'
At 7 we party all week long anyway!
'party2'
Still gonna slap ol chews on his firm, and supple hiney.
*chews stands akimbo waiting for said slap*
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this is my first day quitting. i feel like crap my head hurts and im craving tobacco like crazy seeking out cans that are empty and sniffing them. I am trying all kinds of things to put in my lip to stop the craving. Beef jerky seems to work a lil bit but, not the same. My family just said its dinner time and i said softly that I wasn't hungry and im not i should be but, im not hungry just feel like being left alone and really angry and irritable. Feel very stressed out like my family doesn't really want to understand what im going thru. please can someone give me ideas on how to stop the cravings ?
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this is my first day quitting. i feel like crap my head hurts and im craving tobacco like crazy seeking out cans that are empty and sniffing them. I am trying all kinds of things to put in my lip to stop the craving. Beef jerky seems to work a lil bit but, not the same. My family just said its dinner time and i said softly that I wasn't hungry and im not i should be but, im not hungry just feel like being left alone and really angry and irritable. Feel very stressed out like my family doesn't really want to understand what im going thru. please can someone give me ideas on how to stop the cravings ?
Nothing is going to stop the cravings. Try getting some fake snuff, it helps but you are going to have to man the fuck up and fight through it. Days 1-3 are fucking hell, period. Im on day 9 with no dip and I will tell you I have very little cravings anymore, it will get better. Nothing is going to be the same as real snuff its just something that you are going to have to get through.
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this is my first day quitting. i feel like crap my head hurts and im craving tobacco like crazy seeking out cans that are empty and sniffing them. I am trying all kinds of things to put in my lip to stop the craving. Beef jerky seems to work a lil bit but, not the same. My family just said its dinner time and i said softly that I wasn't hungry and im not i should be but, im not hungry just feel like being left alone and really angry and irritable. Feel very stressed out like my family doesn't really want to understand what im going thru. please can someone give me ideas on how to stop the cravings ?
Nothing is going to stop the cravings. Try getting some fake snuff, it helps but you are going to have to man the fuck up and fight through it. Days 1-3 are fucking hell, period. Im on day 9 with no dip and I will tell you I have very little cravings anymore, it will get better. Nothing is going to be the same as real snuff its just something that you are going to have to get through.
Drink lots of water and cranberry juice. Use sunflower seeds, red hot fireballs, fake dip. Every time you resist a crave and win you will get stronger and the craves will get weaker. When a crave hits do something to take your mind off of it and gradually it will ease.
But Nightmare is right. You need to man up and fight for your freedom during the first several days.
You can do it. We did!
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Day 10 with no snuff, finally in the double digits.
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Day 10 with no snuff, finally in the double digits.
Excellent!
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Day 10 with no snuff, finally in the double digits.
Double digits is great, but more success will be had if you post roll everyday. I see that you posted the first time with the October 13' group on your day 6, and not since. That's not how things work around here.
Post Roll. Every Day. First Thing.
In case you've forgotten:
Click here -- Roll Call, Why we do it (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=120)
Click here -- How to Post Roll (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50)
Click here -- October 2013 Quitter Group (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=8419)
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Addicts, non-addicts, general population it doesn't matter I see a resounding similarity. Over the past months I've notice this one similarity, people are good. Sure we encounter the occasional ass but over all most people are good. The overwhelming majority of those coming here with a desire to overcome this all consuming addiction are concerned not only with their own well being but that of their fellow man. My faith and trust in mankind in general has been lifted because of the love I've felt by so many here. May my love and concern for each of you and your daily victory be felt by my actions.
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Well here I go again ... I have been dippin since 10th grade because it was just too hard to hide dip at school and all the other countryboys was doin it and I didn't want nobody thinking I was a wuss. Now here it is 9 years later I'm 25 now, I've tryed to quit hundreds of times. First I was prayin to God , if u give me this or that then ill quit just to end up failing again. For me it's not hard to quit the first few hours but then u hear that country song or see an ole boy at the lake with one in and then ur mind starts sayin " we'll if u don't dip ur not country" that's hard cause if ur anything like me. I'm super proud of bein country. Anyways a few months ago I had been quit for about 3 months, I felt great , I wasn't out of breath when I ran I could do push ups like a champ I went to bed early and got up early . I had loads of energy and the little lady loved it cause my sex drive seemed to come back in full stride. I moticed that my teeth were even starting to turn that pretty white that there supposed to be, But then my unit in fort Campbell ky sent me down south for training, I found myself away from my wife , in a place that was just horrible and there was no way to dip at all, good right? Nope my buddy passed me with a cigarette one day and I thought " I'll just do these untill I get home " " I mean I'm so stressed down here ' I deserve it right" . Big mistake ... That was a couple months ago , yesterday I decided to quit again and it's been almost 12 hours ... I just keep wondering can I really do it ? I can't wait till day 100 so I can look at those cans in the store and say " I'm not ur bitch anymore Copenhagen" . Sorry I needed to get that out I'm new, so if this post is in the wrong place or anything feel free to inbox me and explain how it works , I can take advice I never really posted on a forum before. Anyways I hope to get to know some of u fellow quiters and its good to know I'm not alone. Thanks for listening.
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Well here I go again ... I have been dippin since 10th grade because it was just too hard to hide dip at school and all the other countryboys was doin it and I didn't want nobody thinking I was a wuss. Now here it is 9 years later I'm 25 now, I've tryed to quit hundreds of times. First I was prayin to God , if u give me this or that then ill quit just to end up failing again. For me it's not hard to quit the first few hours but then u hear that country song or see an ole boy at the lake with one in and then ur mind starts sayin " we'll if u don't dip ur not country" that's hard cause if ur anything like me. I'm super proud of bein country. Anyways a few months ago I had been quit for about 3 months, I felt great , I wasn't out of breath when I ran I could do push ups like a champ I went to bed early and got up early . I had loads of energy and the little lady loved it cause my sex drive seemed to come back in full stride. I moticed that my teeth were even starting to turn that pretty white that there supposed to be, But then my unit in fort Campbell ky sent me down south for training, I found myself away from my wife , in a place that was just horrible and there was no way to dip at all, good right? Nope my buddy passed me with a cigarette one day and I thought " I'll just do these untill I get home " " I mean I'm so stressed down here ' I deserve it right" . Big mistake ... That was a couple months ago , yesterday I decided to quit again and it's been almost 12 hours ... I just keep wondering can I really do it ? I can't wait till day 100 so I can look at those cans in the store and say " I'm not ur bitch anymore Copenhagen" . Sorry I needed to get that out I'm new, so if this post is in the wrong place or anything feel free to inbox me and explain how it works , I can take advice I never really posted on a forum before. Anyways I hope to get to know some of u fellow quiters and its good to know I'm not alone. Thanks for listening.
Welcome and thanks for your service. You are in good company here bro.
Follow the Welcome Center link in the upper left and read. Read it again. Pay close attention to #4. #4 make the difference between slave and clean.
Then head over to Quit Groups and join the October group by executing #4 on Roll Call. You will be swarmed with people reaching out to help.
You can do this bro. It ain't easy, but you can do it..
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I can feel it , my hands and arms starting to shake, I won't let withdraw get the best of me this time.
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I can feel it , my hands and arms starting to shake, I won't let withdraw get the best of me this time.
Promise? If so...go post Roll Call.
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Where is roll call , the fella below was sayin something about it but I'm not sure where to go
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Where is roll call , the fella below was sayin something about it but I'm not sure where to go
1. Be sure to visit the WELCOME CENTER (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13) for what you need to know to get started
2. Stop by Introductions (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=25) and tell us something about yourself
3 Know what to expect when you quit is found here (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/what.asp) and here (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/symptoms.asp)
4 Print this contract Contract to give up... (http://www.killthecan.org/facts/contract.asp), put it in your wallet and commit to signing it before you can take another dip.
5. Read about Tom and Jenny Kern (http://www.caringbridge.org/mn/tomkern/history.htm) , It will be a tough read-but do it, start from the bottom.
6. Now you are ready, Post ROLL CALL Follow directions below or how to post roll (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50)
7. For inspiration stop by Words of Wisdom (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=41) and HOF Speeches (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=9)
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I can feel it , my hands and arms starting to shake, I won't let withdraw get the best of me this time.
trust me brother I'm retired US Marine Corp got out aug.29,2011 i feel for you. I'm on day 4 and passed the hardest 3 days of my life on the nic bitch. If you need to text or call me instead of dipping do so my name is Matt and my number is xxx-xxx-xxxx(edit by mod) im a PA country boy and have same feelings as you do. I will tell you something , this morning i had thoughts of doing dip that i found on my neighbors porch this morning but, when i opened the can and smelled the skoal flavor he chewed i puked on the ground outside my house and then realized to myself why did i ever put that nasty shit into my mouth.. i still have the sick feeling in my tummy and dont want to ever go that route again ever again. the last 3 days were the hardest in life to get thru. I thought the Military was hard lmao...this was the hardest. Keep up with the quit brother..
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trust me brother I'm retired US Marine Corp got out aug.29,2011 i feel for you. I'm on day 4 and passed the hardest 3 days of my life on the nic bitch. If you need to text or call me instead of dipping do so my name is Matt and my number is xxx-xxx-xxxx(edit by mod) im a PA country boy and have same feelings as you do. I will tell you something , this morning i had thoughts of doing dip that i found on my neighbors porch this morning but, when i opened the can and smelled the skoal flavor he chewed i puked on the ground outside my house and then realized to myself why did i ever put that nasty shit into my mouth.. i still have the sick feeling in my tummy and dont want to ever go that route again ever again. the last 3 days were the hardest in life to get thru. I thought the Military was hard lmao...this was the hardest. Keep up with the quit brother..
Thanks man and thanks for the 20 years I don't know how y'all do it I got 6 under my belt and I can't wait to Ets lol I posted roll call, I think I put myself in supporters but ill get the hang of it in a couple days. Inbox me sometime I'm sure we both got some pretty good war stories.
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trust me brother I'm retired US Marine Corp got out aug.29,2011 i feel for you. I'm on day 4 and passed the hardest 3 days of my life on the nic bitch. If you need to text or call me instead of dipping do so my name is Matt and my number is xxx-xxx-xxxx(edit by mod) im a PA country boy and have same feelings as you do. I will tell you something , this morning i had thoughts of doing dip that i found on my neighbors porch this morning but, when i opened the can and smelled the skoal flavor he chewed i puked on the ground outside my house and then realized to myself why did i ever put that nasty shit into my mouth.. i still have the sick feeling in my tummy and dont want to ever go that route again ever again. the last 3 days were the hardest in life to get thru. I thought the Military was hard lmao...this was the hardest. Keep up with the quit brother..
Thanks man and thanks for the 20 years I don't know how y'all do it I got 6 under my belt and I can't wait to Ets lol I posted roll call, I think I put myself in supporters but ill get the hang of it in a couple days. Inbox me sometime I'm sure we both got some pretty good war stories.
It gets better. Trust me.
These first days are the worst of it. Physically, your body hates you and it won't start healing until all of that poison is pushed out of your system. Drink lots of water. Exercise. Limit your caffeine. Those things will push that stuff out and you will feel better.
Physically, you will always be an addict so do not tempt yourself by sniffing cans. We quit for a reason. We want to be done with this. We don't want to let it slip back into our lives again.
You guys can do this.
It's not easy sometimes, but it is simple:
Post roll
Keep your word
Repeat.
You do that for today, and I got your backs all day long. I don't care how much you have to lean on me. I'm here to help.
PM me your numbers.
The KTC can be the biggest, baddest weapon in your arsenal of quit, but it's up to YOU to pull the trigger.
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New blog post: Elicit Herbal Chew Review
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/07/elic ... ew-review/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/07/elicit-herbal-chew-review/)
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gone...
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Ok, so I want to continue to keep 'paying it forward'. I have already donated $2,500 to our site to have us represented at the national tobacco quit summit.
I will hit 1,000 days on Saturday July 27th.
I will donate another $5 for every quitter that comes to February 2011 and posts with my whole quit group that day (probably good to say Copehater is awesome, haha).
I will cap it at 200 quitters, another $1,000 the cause.
Who is in?
Dave
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Ok, so I want to continue to keep 'paying it forward'. I have already donated $2,500 to our site to have us represented at the national tobacco quit summit.
I will hit 1,000 days on Saturday July 27th.
I will donate another $5 for every quitter that comes to February 2011 and posts with my whole quit group that day (probably good to say Copehater is awesome, haha).
I will cap it at 200 quitters, another $1,000 the cause.
Who is in?
Dave
Wow! THAT is freaking awesome!!! I'm in.
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Ok, so I want to continue to keep 'paying it forward'. I have already donated $2,500 to our site to have us represented at the national tobacco quit summit.
I will hit 1,000 days on Saturday July 27th.
I will donate another $5 for every quitter that comes to February 2011 and posts with my whole quit group that day (probably good to say Copehater is awesome, haha).
I will cap it at 200 quitters, another $1,000 the cause.
Who is in?
Dave
Hell YEA! I am in like a fat kid at a pie eating contest!!!!
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Ok, so I want to continue to keep 'paying it forward'. I have already donated $2,500 to our site to have us represented at the national tobacco quit summit.
I will hit 1,000 days on Saturday July 27th.
I will donate another $5 for every quitter that comes to February 2011 and posts with my whole quit group that day (probably good to say Copehater is awesome, haha).
I will cap it at 200 quitters, another $1,000 the cause.Â
Who is in?
Dave
Hell YEA! I am in like a fat kid at a pie eating contest!!!!
You are just AWESOME!!! I'll be there 'winker'
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Day 2 - couldn't hardly sleep last night but feeling pretty good over all this mornin.
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Day 2 - couldn't hardly sleep last night but feeling pretty good over all this mornin.
Roll Call sugar. You gotta figure out Roll CAll.
October 2013 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=8419) is your group. You will hit 100 days in Oct.
Head over there and hit Roll Call. Roll Call is a simple Cut/Paste/Edit function. Easy to understand. Difficult to master (in the fog).
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Let's Bankrupt Copehater!!
Here's what he just posted in February 2011:Copehater 996 The Hater challenge is on, every quitter that posts in here on Saturday for mine and my amigos 1,000 day, I will donate $5 to the Summit.
So everyone make sure to post in Feb 11 on Saturday!
Make Chewie smile! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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Ok, so I want to continue to keep 'paying it forward'. I have already donated $2,500 to our site to have us represented at the national tobacco quit summit.
I will hit 1,000 days on Saturday July 27th.
I will donate another $5 for every quitter that comes to February 2011 and posts with my whole quit group that day (probably good to say Copehater is awesome, haha).
I will cap it at 200 quitters, another $1,000 the cause.Â
Who is in?
Dave
Hell YEA! I am in like a fat kid at a pie eating contest!!!!
You are just AWESOME!!! I'll be there 'winker'
I will be posting with you Saturday.
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Day 2 - couldn't hardly sleep last night but feeling pretty good over all this mornin.
I'm on day 2 also buddy, boy this is a lot of fun...
I keep getting bumped off of roll call but I am freaking here.
I cycle a lot and although I felt like I was going to die on my first ride without dip today, I actually felt really good once I got out there and got my heart and respiratory rate up.
Hang in there!!!!!!!
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Day 2 - couldn't hardly sleep last night but feeling pretty good over all this mornin.
I'm on day 2 also buddy, boy this is a lot of fun...
I keep getting bumped off of roll call but I am freaking here.
I cycle a lot and although I felt like I was going to die on my first ride without dip today, I actually felt really good once I got out there and got my heart and respiratory rate up.
Hang in there!!!!!!!
You won't die, my friend.
You will thrive!
Keep pushing forward!
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Ok, so I want to continue to keep 'paying it forward'. I have already donated $2,500 to our site to have us represented at the national tobacco quit summit.
I will hit 1,000 days on Saturday July 27th.
I will donate another $5 for every quitter that comes to February 2011 and posts with my whole quit group that day (probably good to say Copehater is awesome, haha).
I will cap it at 200 quitters, another $1,000 the cause.Â
Who is in?
Dave
Hell YEA! I am in like a fat kid at a pie eating contest!!!!
You are just AWESOME!!! I'll be there 'winker'
I will be posting with you Saturday.
As will I. Thank you Copehater!
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Ok, so I want to continue to keep 'paying it forward'. I have already donated $2,500 to our site to have us represented at the national tobacco quit summit.
I will hit 1,000 days on Saturday July 27th.
I will donate another $5 for every quitter that comes to February 2011 and posts with my whole quit group that day (probably good to say Copehater is awesome, haha).
I will cap it at 200 quitters, another $1,000 the cause.Â
Who is in?
Dave
Hell YEA! I am in like a fat kid at a pie eating contest!!!!
You are just AWESOME!!! I'll be there 'winker'
I will be posting with you Saturday.
As will I. Thank you Copehater!
I doubt we will get 200 quitters to post with me and the Amigos, prove me wrong.
300 Quitters = $1,250
400 quitters= $1,500
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Ok, so I want to continue to keep 'paying it forward'. I have already donated $2,500 to our site to have us represented at the national tobacco quit summit.
I will hit 1,000 days on Saturday July 27th.
I will donate another $5 for every quitter that comes to February 2011 and posts with my whole quit group that day (probably good to say Copehater is awesome, haha).
I will cap it at 200 quitters, another $1,000 the cause.Â
Who is in?
Dave
Hell YEA! I am in like a fat kid at a pie eating contest!!!!
You are just AWESOME!!! I'll be there 'winker'
I will be posting with you Saturday.
As will I. Thank you Copehater!
I doubt we will get 200 quitters to post with me and the Amigos, prove me wrong.
300 Quitters = $1,250
400 quitters= $1,500
Can I post 400 times so it equals out to $1500? Regardless, I'll be there with bells on posting my congrats to you.
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Day 3 I'm not sick but my chest and nose feel tight and stuffy is it normal?
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Day 3 I'm not sick but my chest and nose feel tight and stuffy is it normal?
It could just be a coincidence, like allergies. I had headaches and felt drained for my first 14 days.
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Day 3 I'm not sick but my chest and nose feel tight and stuffy is it normal?
It could just be a coincidence, like allergies. I had headaches and felt drained for my first 14 days.
On day 3, anything short of a Scanners style head explosion is normal.
Actually... that Scanners thing is pretty common on day 3 too ;)
Hang in there... you're in the right place.
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Day 3 I'm not sick but my chest and nose feel tight and stuffy is it normal?
My nose felt stuffy and I felt like I couldn't catch my breath on day 2 and 3. Weird thing is, I went on my normal bike rides and both symptoms went away during and after the ride.
They came back a few hours later but once again, I was fine on the bike the next day. Today(day 4), both symptoms are gone and I feel pretty good.
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Ok, so I want to continue to keep 'paying it forward'. I have already donated $2,500 to our site to have us represented at the national tobacco quit summit.
I will hit 1,000 days on Saturday July 27th.
I will donate another $5 for every quitter that comes to February 2011 and posts with my whole quit group that day (probably good to say Copehater is awesome, haha).
I will cap it at 200 quitters, another $1,000 the cause.Â
Who is in?
Dave
Hell YEA! I am in like a fat kid at a pie eating contest!!!!
You are just AWESOME!!! I'll be there 'winker'
I will be posting with you Saturday.
As will I. Thank you Copehater!
I doubt we will get 200 quitters to post with me and the Amigos, prove me wrong.
300 Quitters = $1,250
400 quitters= $1,500
Can I post 400 times so it equals out to $1500? Regardless, I'll be there with bells on posting my congrats to you.
Bump
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Ok, so I want to continue to keep 'paying it forward'. I have already donated $2,500 to our site to have us represented at the national tobacco quit summit.
I will hit 1,000 days on Saturday July 27th.
I will donate another $5 for every quitter that comes to February 2011 and posts with my whole quit group that day (probably good to say Copehater is awesome, haha).
I will cap it at 200 quitters, another $1,000 the cause.Â
Who is in?
Dave
Hell YEA! I am in like a fat kid at a pie eating contest!!!!
You are just AWESOME!!! I'll be there 'winker'
I will be posting with you Saturday.
As will I. Thank you Copehater!
I doubt we will get 200 quitters to post with me and the Amigos, prove me wrong.
300 Quitters = $1,250
400 quitters= $1,500
Can I post 400 times so it equals out to $1500? Regardless, I'll be there with bells on posting my congrats to you.
Bump
Let's Honor Hater's generousity gents......blow it up, talk it up and post it up.
helluva gesture bro.....helluva gesture.
Absolutely incredible sir.
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Ok, so I want to continue to keep 'paying it forward'. I have already donated $2,500 to our site to have us represented at the national tobacco quit summit.
I will hit 1,000 days on Saturday July 27th.
I will donate another $5 for every quitter that comes to February 2011 and posts with my whole quit group that day (probably good to say Copehater is awesome, haha).
I will cap it at 200 quitters, another $1,000 the cause.Â
Who is in?
Dave
Hell YEA! I am in like a fat kid at a pie eating contest!!!!
You are just AWESOME!!! I'll be there 'winker'
I will be posting with you Saturday.
As will I. Thank you Copehater!
I doubt we will get 200 quitters to post with me and the Amigos, prove me wrong.
300 Quitters = $1,250
400 quitters= $1,500
Can I post 400 times so it equals out to $1500? Regardless, I'll be there with bells on posting my congrats to you.
Bump
Let's Honor Hater's generousity gents......blow it up, talk it up and post it up.
helluva gesture bro.....helluva gesture.
Absolutely incredible sir.
Indeed.
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Ok, so I want to continue to keep 'paying it forward'. I have already donated $2,500 to our site to have us represented at the national tobacco quit summit.
I will hit 1,000 days on Saturday July 27th.
I will donate another $5 for every quitter that comes to February 2011 and posts with my whole quit group that day (probably good to say Copehater is awesome, haha).
I will cap it at 200 quitters, another $1,000 the cause.Â
Who is in?
Dave
Hell YEA! I am in like a fat kid at a pie eating contest!!!!
You are just AWESOME!!! I'll be there 'winker'
I will be posting with you Saturday.
As will I. Thank you Copehater!
I doubt we will get 200 quitters to post with me and the Amigos, prove me wrong.
300 Quitters = $1,250
400 quitters= $1,500
Can I post 400 times so it equals out to $1500? Regardless, I'll be there with bells on posting my congrats to you.
Bump
Let's Honor Hater's generousity gents......blow it up, talk it up and post it up.
helluva gesture bro.....helluva gesture.
Absolutely incredible sir.
Indeed.
I'm in.
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You need some inspiration? Look at the section 'Calendar of Events' for the next seven days.
Awesome shit going on this week!
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You need some inspiration? Look at the section 'Calendar of Events' for the next seven days.
Awesome shit going on this week!
Quit Wood Fer Sure!
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Not too sure this is the right place to post, or right forum. Right now, don't care. Started Cope when I was 9 at the hand of my father, who bought it to quit cigarettes. That was 1977. A can of day minimum, expect while deployed in the Corps, smoked to get by. Also shared dips, and re-cycled. Even recycled shared dips. Whatever until we got more. It was like crack, I guess. I never thought about quitting. I enjoy a fresh dip. I started swallowing the spit in 6th grade so I could dip in class, and have switched back spitting since. I have to sleep with one in, or I can't go to sleep. I decided to quit yesterday, and spit the last dip out at midnight, so it's only been 15 and a half hours, and I'm already losing my mind. I'm determined to follow it through. At 7 bucks a can her in MA, the savings alone is worth the agony of quitting. I asked my wife to help, and deal with me. I don't have any friends that chew, or ever have chewed. Or smoked for that matter. So this is going to be a long road to travel. Let's give it a go.
Check your inbox one more time. You got another number.
Welcome to the suck my friend call or text if you need to. We are all here to support.
Mike
Hang in there my friend!
I am only 15 days quit and feel awesome compared to the first several days. I had a can and a half for 37 years. I know how you feel and the quit will be WELL WORTH the quit. Walk, run, work out, do yard work or anything to take your mind off the crap. Your mind will tell you you need the crap, (nic bitch), you dont! No matter what, don't cave and in 7 days you'll feel much better.
GOOD LUCK!
Tim
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This is worthwhile repeating:
'Finger'
If you're not pissed at the nicBitch, you need to turn your quit up one big notch.
That crap enslaved you, poisoned your body, played with your mind, made you look stupid,
emptied your wallets . . . . basically stole part of your lives! If that doesn't get your goat, you
ain't got a goat to get. A healthy Quit Anger goes a long way toward energizing you to say "Fuck off"
when the craves and tests come your way. So get pissed and stay alive . . . .
'Finger'
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Not too sure this is the right place to post, or right forum. Right now, don't care. Started Cope when I was 9 at the hand of my father, who bought it to quit cigarettes. That was 1977. A can of day minimum, expect while deployed in the Corps, smoked to get by. Also shared dips, and re-cycled. Even recycled shared dips. Whatever until we got more. It was like crack, I guess. I never thought about quitting. I enjoy a fresh dip. I started swallowing the spit in 6th grade so I could dip in class, and have switched back spitting since. I have to sleep with one in, or I can't go to sleep. I decided to quit yesterday, and spit the last dip out at midnight, so it's only been 15 and a half hours, and I'm already losing my mind. I'm determined to follow it through. At 7 bucks a can her in MA, the savings alone is worth the agony of quitting. I asked my wife to help, and deal with me. I don't have any friends that chew, or ever have chewed. Or smoked for that matter. So this is going to be a long road to travel. Let's give it a go.
Check your inbox one more time. You got another number.
Welcome to the suck my friend call or text if you need to. We are all here to support.
Mike
Hang in there my friend!
I am only 15 days quit and feel awesome compared to the first several days. I had a can and a half for 37 years. I know how you feel and the quit will be WELL WORTH the quit. Walk, run, work out, do yard work or anything to take your mind off the crap. Your mind will tell you you need the crap, (nic bitch), you dont! No matter what, don't cave and in 7 days you'll feel much better.
GOOD LUCK!
Tim
Long term nic user here. Did that crap or smoked or both for about 35 years. I am over 4 years quit now thanks to KTC. If my weak ass can do this so can you!!! You have to WANT it badly enough and you have to quit for yourself - NO ONE ELSE!!! Dixon, You NEED to get yourselves over to the October quit group and Mike to the November group, and introduce yourselves, and POST you PROMISE NOT TO USE Daily!!! PM me if either of you need a number.
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Ok, so I want to continue to keep 'paying it forward'. I have already donated $2,500 to our site to have us represented at the national tobacco quit summit.
I will hit 1,000 days on Saturday July 27th.
I will donate another $5 for every quitter that comes to February 2011 and posts with my whole quit group that day (probably good to say Copehater is awesome, haha).
I will cap it at 200 quitters, another $1,000 the cause.Â
Who is in?
Dave
Hell YEA! I am in like a fat kid at a pie eating contest!!!!
You are just AWESOME!!! I'll be there 'winker'
I will be posting with you Saturday.
As will I. Thank you Copehater!
I doubt we will get 200 quitters to post with me and the Amigos, prove me wrong.
300 Quitters = $1,250
400 quitters= $1,500
Can I post 400 times so it equals out to $1500? Regardless, I'll be there with bells on posting my congrats to you.
Bump
Let's Honor Hater's generousity gents......blow it up, talk it up and post it up.
helluva gesture bro.....helluva gesture.
Absolutely incredible sir.
Indeed.
I'm in.
This would be tomorrow gents.....make it rain
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Please post with Copehater in Feb 2011 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=3969) (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=3969) today!! To celebrate his
comma Cope will donate $5 for each person that posts with him
to help KTC be represented at the National Quit Summit!
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Please post with Copehater in Feb 2011 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=3969) (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=3969) today!! To celebrate his
comma Cope will donate $5 for each person that posts with him
to help KTC be represented at the National Quit Summit!
Just got home from a golf outing, feeling alittle overwhelmed from the support, but we still have nine hours until midnight - The cap is off, blow it up and please mention my amigos Middie and R4TB!
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Please post with Copehater in Feb 2011 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=3969) (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=3969) today!! To celebrate his
comma Cope will donate $5 for each person that posts with him
to help KTC be represented at the National Quit Summit!
Just got home from a golf outing, feeling alittle overwhelmed from the support, but we still have nine hours until midnight - The cap is off, blow it up and please mention my amigos Middie and R4TB!
'clap' 'clap' 'clap'
Thank you Hater!!
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Please post with Copehater in Feb 2011 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=3969) (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=3969) today!! To celebrate his
comma Cope will donate $5 for each person that posts with him
to help KTC be represented at the National Quit Summit!
Just got home from a golf outing, feeling alittle overwhelmed from the support, but we still have nine hours until midnight - The cap is off, blow it up and please mention my amigos Middie and R4TB!
'clap' 'clap' 'clap'
Thank you Hater!!
KTC is overwhelmed at your support sir.....
Many thanks and well done.
Your investment will carry the word even further and save lives.
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Please post with Copehater in Feb 2011 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=3969) (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=3969) today!! To celebrate his
comma Cope will donate $5 for each person that posts with him
to help KTC be represented at the National Quit Summit!
Just got home from a golf outing, feeling alittle overwhelmed from the support, but we still have nine hours until midnight - The cap is off, blow it up and please mention my amigos Middie and R4TB!
'clap' 'clap' 'clap'
Thank you Hater!!
KTC is overwhelmed at your support sir.....
Many thanks and well done.
Your investment will carry the word even further and save lives.
Simply Amazing!!! A whole lot of Quit has shown up. CH your generosity is phenomenal... Congrats on the Comma and Thank You for donating to KTC!!! There is still time to go post y'all...Tick Tock!!!
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Please post with Copehater in Feb 2011 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=3969) (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=3969) today!! To celebrate his
comma Cope will donate $5 for each person that posts with him
to help KTC be represented at the National Quit Summit!
Just got home from a golf outing, feeling alittle overwhelmed from the support, but we still have nine hours until midnight - The cap is off, blow it up and please mention my amigos Middie and R4TB!
'clap' 'clap' 'clap'
Thank you Hater!!
KTC is overwhelmed at your support sir.....
Many thanks and well done.
Your investment will carry the word even further and save lives.
Simply Amazing!!! A whole lot of Quit has shown up. CH your generosity is phenomenal... Congrats on the Comma and Thank You for donating to KTC!!! There is still time to go post y'all...Tick Tock!!!
'worship'
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One more member to go until 16,000!!
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One more member to go until 16,000!!
Who is it going to be?!?!
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One more member to go until 16,000!!
Who is it going to be?!?!
This guy.
index.php?showuser=19416 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showuser=19416)
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Haha, just told Mrs. Hater I need a blank check for tomorrow, she was like for what? I said need to send it to Greg (Chewie) for my 1,000 day, she was how much? I said, I have no idea, I need to print out the last post from yesterday and and count the posters and multiply by $5. She rolled her eyes, smiled and said - it's better than dipping! I agree, Thanks for all the support!
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Haha, just told Mrs. Hater I need a blank check for tomorrow, she was like for what? I said need to send it to Greg (Chewie) for my 1,000 day, she was how much? I said, I have no idea, I need to print out the last post from yesterday and and count the posters and multiply by $5. She rolled her eyes, smiled and said - it's better than dipping! I agree, Thanks for all the support!
Thanks just doesn't seem to cover it. Let the Mrs. Know how grateful we are.
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Haha, just told Mrs. Hater I need a blank check for tomorrow, she was like for what? I said need to send it to Greg (Chewie) for my 1,000 day, she was how much? I said, I have no idea, I need to print out the last post from yesterday and and count the posters and multiply by $5. She rolled her eyes, smiled and said - it's better than dipping! I agree, Thanks for all the support!
Thanks just doesn't seem to cover it. Let the Mrs. Know how grateful we are.
I would like to thank all the Admins and Mods that make this happen for 16,000 quitters (as of today), sometimes sweat equity is more important than money equity. I thank all of you.
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Ok,well i tried to count the number of quitters who posted and my kids were driving me crazy, I came up with 222, 243,215, 267. I should just go to work tomorrow and print it out and have my assistant add it up. Yeah, screw that, Lets round it up to 300.
Chewie - $1,500 check coming your way tomorrow.
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Haha, just told Mrs. Hater I need a blank check for tomorrow, she was like for what? I said need to send it to Greg (Chewie) for my 1,000 day, she was how much? I said, I have no idea, I need to print out the last post from yesterday and and count the posters and multiply by $5. She rolled her eyes, smiled and said - it's better than dipping! I agree, Thanks for all the support!
Thanks just doesn't seem to cover it. Let the Mrs. Know how grateful we are.
I would like to thank all the Admins and Mods that make this happen for 16,000 quitters (as of today), sometimes sweat equity is more important than money equity. I thank all of you.
Words seem inadequate.
Thank you and the misses.
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Haha, just told Mrs. Hater I need a blank check for tomorrow, she was like for what? I said need to send it to Greg (Chewie) for my 1,000 day, she was how much? I said, I have no idea, I need to print out the last post from yesterday and and count the posters and multiply by $5. She rolled her eyes, smiled and said - it's better than dipping! I agree, Thanks for all the support!
Thanks just doesn't seem to cover it. Let the Mrs. Know how grateful we are.
I would like to thank all the Admins and Mods that make this happen for 16,000 quitters (as of today), sometimes sweat equity is more important than money equity. I thank all of you.
Words seem inadequate.
Thank you and the misses.
What these men said, Hater. Thanks to you and your wife for the generosity.
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Haha, just told Mrs. Hater I need a blank check for tomorrow, she was like for what? I said need to send it to Greg (Chewie) for my 1,000 day, she was how much? I said, I have no idea, I need to print out the last post from yesterday and and count the posters and multiply by $5. She rolled her eyes, smiled and said - it's better than dipping! I agree, Thanks for all the support!
Thanks just doesn't seem to cover it. Let the Mrs. Know how grateful we are.
I would like to thank all the Admins and Mods that make this happen for 16,000 quitters (as of today), sometimes sweat equity is more important than money equity. I thank all of you.
Words seem inadequate.
Thank you and the misses.
What these men said, Hater. Thanks to you and your wife for the generosity.
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OconeeDawg........check you Inbox (1) above. I sent you a message earlier. Also, it looks like you're here to quit. See the LIVE CHAT link to your top right????? Click on that and join us in chat right now. You will have to create a new account for chat. Just enter same username and password.
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Haha, just told Mrs. Hater I need a blank check for tomorrow, she was like for what? I said need to send it to Greg (Chewie) for my 1,000 day, she was how much? I said, I have no idea, I need to print out the last post from yesterday and and count the posters and multiply by $5. She rolled her eyes, smiled and said - it's better than dipping! I agree, Thanks for all the support!
Thanks just doesn't seem to cover it. Let the Mrs. Know how grateful we are.
I would like to thank all the Admins and Mods that make this happen for 16,000 quitters (as of today), sometimes sweat equity is more important than money equity. I thank all of you.
Words seem inadequate.
Thank you and the misses.
What these men said, Hater. Thanks to you and your wife for the generosity.
Thank you Hater. Awesome, man.
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Haha, just told Mrs. Hater I need a blank check for tomorrow, she was like for what? I said need to send it to Greg (Chewie) for my 1,000 day, she was how much? I said, I have no idea, I need to print out the last post from yesterday and and count the posters and multiply by $5. She rolled her eyes, smiled and said - it's better than dipping! I agree, Thanks for all the support!
Thanks just doesn't seem to cover it. Let the Mrs. Know how grateful we are.
I would like to thank all the Admins and Mods that make this happen for 16,000 quitters (as of today), sometimes sweat equity is more important than money equity. I thank all of you.
Words seem inadequate.
Thank you and the misses.
What these men said, Hater. Thanks to you and your wife for the generosity.
Thank you Hater. Awesome, man.
We really appreciate it hater and your wife for putting up with all of us!!! Many Thanks!!!
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Ok,well i tried to count the number of quitters who posted and my kids were driving me crazy, I came up with 222, 243,215, 267. I should just go to work tomorrow and print it out and have my assistant add it up. Yeah, screw that, Lets round it up to 300.
Chewie - $1,500 check coming your way tomorrow.
Freaking awesome CHater,
What a great rolemodel you are to all of us recent quitters!!
Thanks for what you are doing
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I just read through the 100 reasons to stop dipping and I was amazed at how many of those instances I have caught myself doing in the past, it was easily 90 out of the 100 reasons listed.
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I just read through the 100 reasons to stop dipping and I was amazed at how many of those instances I have caught myself doing in the past, it was easily 90 out of the 100 reasons listed.
We've all been their, my friend. You can call it your past!
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Did you know Tony Gwynn had mouth cancer? Check this out:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1067 ... co-chewers (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1067265-tony-gwynns-cancer-surgery-must-be-a-warning-sign-to-tobacco-chewers)
The most haunting/sad part is toward the end of the article:
""I’m thinking it’s related to dipping,” said Gwynn, who resumed the practice of using chewing tobacco after the first two surgeries."
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I just read through the 100 reasons to stop dipping and I was amazed at how many of those instances I have caught myself doing in the past, it was easily 90 out of the 100 reasons listed.
We've all been their, my friend. You can call it your past!
PLEASE, call it your past! I have, and Keddy has. We know freedom, friend. It's awesome. Join us.
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Did you know Tony Gwynn had mouth cancer? Check this out:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1067 ... co-chewers (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1067265-tony-gwynns-cancer-surgery-must-be-a-warning-sign-to-tobacco-chewers)
The most haunting/sad part is toward the end of the article:
""I’m thinking it’s related to dipping,” said Gwynn, who resumed the practice of using chewing tobacco after the first two surgeries."
There is a really good "Outside the Lines" article/video regarding Tony Gwynn which is linked in the Words of Wisdom (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=4557) section.
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Did you know Tony Gwynn had mouth cancer? Check this out:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1067 ... co-chewers (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1067265-tony-gwynns-cancer-surgery-must-be-a-warning-sign-to-tobacco-chewers)
The most haunting/sad part is toward the end of the article:
""I’m thinking it’s related to dipping,” said Gwynn, who resumed the practice of using chewing tobacco after the first two surgeries."
I’m thinking it’s related to dipping,”
Ya think? :blink:
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Did you know Tony Gwynn had mouth cancer? Check this out:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1067 ... co-chewers (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1067265-tony-gwynns-cancer-surgery-must-be-a-warning-sign-to-tobacco-chewers)
The most haunting/sad part is toward the end of the article:
""I’m thinking it’s related to dipping,” said Gwynn, who resumed the practice of using chewing tobacco after the first two surgeries."
I’m thinking it’s related to dipping,”
Ya think? :blink:
hmmmm, possibly a connection?????? That's hard to imagine! _
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Did you know Tony Gwynn had mouth cancer? Check this out:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1067 ... co-chewers (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1067265-tony-gwynns-cancer-surgery-must-be-a-warning-sign-to-tobacco-chewers)
The most haunting/sad part is toward the end of the article:
""I’m thinking it’s related to dipping,” said Gwynn, who resumed the practice of using chewing tobacco after the first two surgeries."
I’m thinking it’s related to dipping,”
Ya think? :blink:
hmmmm, possibly a connection?????? That's hard to imagine! _
The true horror is that he went back after two surgeries. That has always been a great fear of mine. It shows the power of the addiction.
It is for this reason that I do not agree with "one day at a time" or ODAAT. This concept terrifies me. I have made a decision not to use nicotine again, in any form for the rest of my life. This is my will.
Many of us have the fear that we will fall back. It expresses itself in dip dreams. Like any other addict, the fear of being "struck high" is always present early on and often later in recovery. For me, making a firm decision that I will not use nicotine again, ever, and knowing that it is my will to do so is far more comforting than the idea that I should do things one day at a time.
Many people think it is dangerous to say things like "I will never use it again" because we are addicts, and the addiction is strong. I say my will refuses to use it again and I don't have to worry about it, after all, in the end, it is my decision.
A cave is a decision made in the mind. No outside source or force can manifest the nicotine in my body. Only a decision made by me.
I realize I sound like a hard ass on this. But for me in this case and another it has been a life or death decision. I don't play games with it, I don't negotiate with it, and I take no prisoners with it.
I don't take a position that ODAAT is wrong, or should not be used. On the contrary if it works for you then use it. Anything to beat this addiction. I do think it is important however to present as many tools as possible.
The Hammer.
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Hey all! New to the group. Having problems trying to figure out the roll call. Any advice would help. It has been 4 days. Been one of the harder things I have done. Been dipping for 15 years. Made the decision Sunday night. Enough is enough. Been chewing a lot of gum and working out twice a day. Hopefully, I am posting in the correct place. Have a good one!!!
TA
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Hey all! New to the group. Having problems trying to figure out the roll call. Any advice would help. It has been 4 days. Been one of the harder things I have done. Been dipping for 15 years. Made the decision Sunday night. Enough is enough. Been chewing a lot of gum and working out twice a day. Hopefully, I am posting in the correct place. Have a good one!!!
TA
Welcome. Click on that salmon colored "welcome center" link. All the points in there are essential to know, especially the WHY and HOW to post roll. You can also drop into Live Chat and ask for help on figuring out roll.
4 days is awesome! Holler at me if you need some help.
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hay chewy man... happy birth day. 'Birthday' 'party2' 'eat' 'Cheers' 'shots' 'Sing and Drink' 'puking'
yung fuggin punk. :o
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Did you know Tony Gwynn had mouth cancer? Check this out:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1067 ... co-chewers (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1067265-tony-gwynns-cancer-surgery-must-be-a-warning-sign-to-tobacco-chewers)
The most haunting/sad part is toward the end of the article:
""I’m thinking it’s related to dipping,” said Gwynn, who resumed the practice of using chewing tobacco after the first two surgeries."
I’m thinking it’s related to dipping,”
Ya think? :blink:
hmmmm, possibly a connection?????? That's hard to imagine! _
The true horror is that he went back after two surgeries. That has always been a great fear of mine. It shows the power of the addiction.
It is for this reason that I do not agree with "one day at a time" or ODAAT. This concept terrifies me. I have made a decision not to use nicotine again, in any form for the rest of my life. This is my will.
Many of us have the fear that we will fall back. It expresses itself in dip dreams. Like any other addict, the fear of being "struck high" is always present early on and often later in recovery. For me, making a firm decision that I will not use nicotine again, ever, and knowing that it is my will to do so is far more comforting than the idea that I should do things one day at a time.
Many people think it is dangerous to say things like "I will never use it again" because we are addicts, and the addiction is strong. I say my will refuses to use it again and I don't have to worry about it, after all, in the end, it is my decision.
A cave is a decision made in the mind. No outside source or force can manifest the nicotine in my body. Only a decision made by me.
I realize I sound like a hard ass on this. But for me in this case and another it has been a life or death decision. I don't play games with it, I don't negotiate with it, and I take no prisoners with it.
I don't take a position that ODAAT is wrong, or should not be used. On the contrary if it works for you then use it. Anything to beat this addiction. I do think it is important however to present as many tools as possible.
The Hammer.
Interesting mjollnir. I'm in the same boat, I have believed I'm am quit forever since my first day here. Perhaps it is only because I waited so long to make the decision to quit that it was perfectly clear to me I was an addict by the time I got here. But I can say I've seen many a quitter who really does need to approach this one day or hour at a time. And I don't see any conflict between the two, my goal and intent is forever, my practice remains 1 day at a time.
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So I have a question... and maybe this is me putting the cart before the horse a bit. I'm in Day 4... everything is manageable-ish thus far, but the only reason is probably because I am packing in Smokey Mountain like it is my fucking job... and by manageable i mean a royal fucking pain in the ass that makes me want to go head first in a log of skoal....but that is not for me anymore... QLF...
Those of you that utilized the fake stuff in your quit... When did you finally start weening yourself from the fake stuff? Or did you ever stop using the fake stuff....
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So I have a question... and maybe this is me putting the cart before the horse a bit. I'm in Day 4... everything is manageable-ish thus far, but the only reason is probably because I am packing in Smokey Mountain like it is my fucking job... and by manageable i mean a royal fucking pain in the ass that makes me want to go head first in a log of skoal....but that is not for me anymore... QLF...
Those of you that utilized the fake stuff in your quit... When did you finally start weening yourself from the fake stuff? Or did you ever stop using the fake stuff....
Ironically, I just re-posted this yesterday:
http://blog.killthecan.org/2009/05/fake ... t-to-chew/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2009/05/fake-dip-to-chew-or-not-to-chew/)
I'm a huge fan of the fake stuff as a tool early in your quit. For some people, it's too close to the real thing and it actually makes them crave. For me... it was a lifesaver.
I've often said, and still say to this day, that I'd rather chew a can/day of the fake stuff for the rest of my life then to ever have another dip of Kodiak.
For me personally, I chewed a can/day of the fake for a good 160 days or so into my quit. Then one day, I just started reaching for it less and less until one day I didn't need it at all.
You're on day 4... if it helps... USE IT!!!
Get some legs under you quit... eventually you won't need it, but until then don't worry about it.
chewie
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So I have a question... and maybe this is me putting the cart before the horse a bit. I'm in Day 4... everything is manageable-ish thus far, but the only reason is probably because I am packing in Smokey Mountain like it is my fucking job... and by manageable i mean a royal fucking pain in the ass that makes me want to go head first in a log of skoal....but that is not for me anymore... QLF...
Those of you that utilized the fake stuff in your quit... When did you finally start weening yourself from the fake stuff? Or did you ever stop using the fake stuff....
Ironically, I just re-posted this yesterday:
http://blog.killthecan.org/2009/05/fake ... t-to-chew/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2009/05/fake-dip-to-chew-or-not-to-chew/)
I'm a huge fan of the fake stuff as a tool early in your quit. For some people, it's too close to the real thing and it actually makes them crave. For me... it was a lifesaver.
I've often said, and still say to this day, that I'd rather chew a can/day of the fake stuff for the rest of my life then to ever have another dip of Kodiak.
For me personally, I chewed a can/day of the fake for a good 160 days or so into my quit. Then one day, I just started reaching for it less and less until one day I didn't need it at all.
You're on day 4... if it helps... USE IT!!!
Get some legs under you quit... eventually you won't need it, but until then don't worry about it.
chewie
Exactly what Chews said. I dipped Hooch Spitfire for the first 200 days or so. One day I just forgot to pack it.
If it works, do it. As long as there is no nicotine.
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So I have a question... and maybe this is me putting the cart before the horse a bit. I'm in Day 4... everything is manageable-ish thus far, but the only reason is probably because I am packing in Smokey Mountain like it is my fucking job... and by manageable i mean a royal fucking pain in the ass that makes me want to go head first in a log of skoal....but that is not for me anymore... QLF...
Those of you that utilized the fake stuff in your quit... When did you finally start weening yourself from the fake stuff? Or did you ever stop using the fake stuff....
Ironically, I just re-posted this yesterday:
http://blog.killthecan.org/2009/05/fake ... t-to-chew/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2009/05/fake-dip-to-chew-or-not-to-chew/)
I'm a huge fan of the fake stuff as a tool early in your quit. For some people, it's too close to the real thing and it actually makes them crave. For me... it was a lifesaver.
I've often said, and still say to this day, that I'd rather chew a can/day of the fake stuff for the rest of my life then to ever have another dip of Kodiak.
For me personally, I chewed a can/day of the fake for a good 160 days or so into my quit. Then one day, I just started reaching for it less and less until one day I didn't need it at all.
You're on day 4... if it helps... USE IT!!!
Get some legs under you quit... eventually you won't need it, but until then don't worry about it.
chewie
Exactly what Chews said. I dipped Hooch Spitfire for the first 200 days or so. One day I just forgot to pack it.
If it works, do it. As long as there is no nicotine.
strong altoids are pretty good also.ginger is my favorite.it dosent taste well but if you stick 2 or 3 between your lip and gum its a pretty strong burn
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So I have a question... and maybe this is me putting the cart before the horse a bit. I'm in Day 4... everything is manageable-ish thus far, but the only reason is probably because I am packing in Smokey Mountain like it is my fucking job... and by manageable i mean a royal fucking pain in the ass that makes me want to go head first in a log of skoal....but that is not for me anymore... QLF...
Those of you that utilized the fake stuff in your quit... When did you finally start weening yourself from the fake stuff? Or did you ever stop using the fake stuff....
Ironically, I just re-posted this yesterday:
http://blog.killthecan.org/2009/05/fake ... t-to-chew/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2009/05/fake-dip-to-chew-or-not-to-chew/)
I'm a huge fan of the fake stuff as a tool early in your quit. For some people, it's too close to the real thing and it actually makes them crave. For me... it was a lifesaver.
I've often said, and still say to this day, that I'd rather chew a can/day of the fake stuff for the rest of my life then to ever have another dip of Kodiak.
For me personally, I chewed a can/day of the fake for a good 160 days or so into my quit. Then one day, I just started reaching for it less and less until one day I didn't need it at all.
You're on day 4... if it helps... USE IT!!!
Get some legs under you quit... eventually you won't need it, but until then don't worry about it.
chewie
Exactly what Chews said. I dipped Hooch Spitfire for the first 200 days or so. One day I just forgot to pack it.
If it works, do it. As long as there is no nicotine.
strong altoids are pretty good also.ginger is my favorite.it dosent taste well but if you stick 2 or 3 between your lip and gum its a pretty strong burn
I just discovered Seasalt and black pepper sunflower seeds.
Those things are the bomb.
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So I have a question... and maybe this is me putting the cart before the horse a bit. I'm in Day 4... everything is manageable-ish thus far, but the only reason is probably because I am packing in Smokey Mountain like it is my fucking job... and by manageable i mean a royal fucking pain in the ass that makes me want to go head first in a log of skoal....but that is not for me anymore... QLF...
Those of you that utilized the fake stuff in your quit... When did you finally start weening yourself from the fake stuff? Or did you ever stop using the fake stuff....
Ironically, I just re-posted this yesterday:
http://blog.killthecan.org/2009/05/fake ... t-to-chew/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2009/05/fake-dip-to-chew-or-not-to-chew/)
I'm a huge fan of the fake stuff as a tool early in your quit. For some people, it's too close to the real thing and it actually makes them crave. For me... it was a lifesaver.
I've often said, and still say to this day, that I'd rather chew a can/day of the fake stuff for the rest of my life then to ever have another dip of Kodiak.
For me personally, I chewed a can/day of the fake for a good 160 days or so into my quit. Then one day, I just started reaching for it less and less until one day I didn't need it at all.
You're on day 4... if it helps... USE IT!!!
Get some legs under you quit... eventually you won't need it, but until then don't worry about it.
chewie
Exactly what Chews said. I dipped Hooch Spitfire for the first 200 days or so. One day I just forgot to pack it.
If it works, do it. As long as there is no nicotine.
strong altoids are pretty good also.ginger is my favorite.it dosent taste well but if you stick 2 or 3 between your lip and gum its a pretty strong burn
I just discovered Seasalt and black pepper sunflower seeds.
Those things are the bomb.
As crazy as it sounds, I liked straight coffee grounds. Yeah it was messy, but it worked.
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So I have a question... and maybe this is me putting the cart before the horse a bit. I'm in Day 4... everything is manageable-ish thus far, but the only reason is probably because I am packing in Smokey Mountain like it is my fucking job... and by manageable i mean a royal fucking pain in the ass that makes me want to go head first in a log of skoal....but that is not for me anymore... QLF...
Those of you that utilized the fake stuff in your quit... When did you finally start weening yourself from the fake stuff? Or did you ever stop using the fake stuff....
Ironically, I just re-posted this yesterday:
http://blog.killthecan.org/2009/05/fake ... t-to-chew/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2009/05/fake-dip-to-chew-or-not-to-chew/)
I'm a huge fan of the fake stuff as a tool early in your quit. For some people, it's too close to the real thing and it actually makes them crave. For me... it was a lifesaver.
I've often said, and still say to this day, that I'd rather chew a can/day of the fake stuff for the rest of my life then to ever have another dip of Kodiak.
For me personally, I chewed a can/day of the fake for a good 160 days or so into my quit. Then one day, I just started reaching for it less and less until one day I didn't need it at all.
You're on day 4... if it helps... USE IT!!!
Get some legs under you quit... eventually you won't need it, but until then don't worry about it.
chewie
Exactly what Chews said. I dipped Hooch Spitfire for the first 200 days or so. One day I just forgot to pack it.
If it works, do it. As long as there is no nicotine.
strong altoids are pretty good also.ginger is my favorite.it dosent taste well but if you stick 2 or 3 between your lip and gum its a pretty strong burn
I just discovered Seasalt and black pepper sunflower seeds.
Those things are the bomb.
As crazy as it sounds, I liked straight coffee grounds. Yeah it was messy, but it worked.
I really like Smokey Mountain Pouches. The menthol in the wintergreen and peppermint, along with the cayenne pepper have a nice "cool" burn. They help me with the oral fixation, and for a bonus there is not mess. Smokey Mountain is amazing because they will send you samples for free as long as you pay for shipping. That company literally helped save my life.
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I really like Smokey Mountain Pouches. The menthol in the wintergreen and peppermint, along with the cayenne pepper have a nice "cool" burn. They help me with the oral fixation, and for a bonus there is not mess. Smokey Mountain is amazing because they will send you samples for free as long as you pay for shipping. That company literally helped save my life.
Has anyone ever added cayenne to SM? I could use a burn right now.
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I really like Smokey Mountain Pouches. The menthol in the wintergreen and peppermint, along with the cayenne pepper have a nice "cool" burn. They help me with the oral fixation, and for a bonus there is not mess. Smokey Mountain is amazing because they will send you samples for free as long as you pay for shipping. That company literally helped save my life.
Has anyone ever added cayenne to SM? I could use a burn right now.
Try hooch spitfire.
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Live chat. I'm there. Others are there. Log on and get help. It's time to quit. You know it. We can help.
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After a certain matter of time is it Normal to still have cravings but not want to buy it ?
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After a certain matter of time is it Normal to still have cravings but not want to buy it ?
Yep. Totally normal.
Over time, the cravings and those desires go away too... Keep on keeping on!
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After a certain matter of time is it Normal to still have cravings but not want to buy it ?
Yep. Totally normal.
Over time, the cravings and those desires go away too... Keep on keeping on!
It took a long time for you to become an addict. It will take a long time for you to break those associations.
Here's the thing: I chewed for nearly 16 years of my life. I'm a little over 2 years quit. Of those 2 years, I bet 20 were really bad days, 150 were ho hum, and the rest has been great. During those bad days, time seemed to stand still. They weren't fun.
But I got through them.
Eventually, the sun shines again and we remember why we quit in the first place.
When times are good, we practice for the bad.
When times are bad, we lean on what we've learned.
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Try hooch spitfire.
I checked out their site. Anyone know a coupon code or a cheaper way to get the stuff before I order some from " https://hoochsnuff.com/Main.aspx (https://hoochsnuff.com/Main.aspx) " ?
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Try hooch spitfire.
I checked out their site. Anyone know a coupon code or a cheaper way to get the stuff before I order some from " https://hoochsnuff.com/Main.aspx (https://hoochsnuff.com/Main.aspx) " ?
KillTheCan.org users will receive a sample pack (1 of each flavor - Mint, Cherry, Spitfire, Wintergreen, Classic and Whiskey) for $12 (a savings of $5) when they enter coupon code "killthecan.org" at checkout. Coupon code can only be used once per order and twice per customer.
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Try hooch spitfire.
I checked out their site. Anyone know a coupon code or a cheaper way to get the stuff before I order some from " https://hoochsnuff.com/Main.aspx (https://hoochsnuff.com/Main.aspx) " ?
KillTheCan.org users will receive a sample pack (1 of each flavor - Mint, Cherry, Spitfire, Wintergreen, Classic and Whiskey) for $12 (a savings of $5) when they enter coupon code "killthecan.org" at checkout. Coupon code can only be used once per order and twice per customer.
^^^
What he said: http://www.hoochsnuff.com/Main.aspx?AFID=killthecan (http://www.hoochsnuff.com/Main.aspx?AFID=killthecan)
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Try hooch spitfire.
I checked out their site. Anyone know a coupon code or a cheaper way to get the stuff before I order some from " https://hoochsnuff.com/Main.aspx (https://hoochsnuff.com/Main.aspx) " ?
KillTheCan.org users will receive a sample pack (1 of each flavor - Mint, Cherry, Spitfire, Wintergreen, Classic and Whiskey) for $12 (a savings of $5) when they enter coupon code "killthecan.org" at checkout. Coupon code can only be used once per order and twice per customer.
^^^
What he said: http://www.hoochsnuff.com/Main.aspx?AFID=killthecan (http://www.hoochsnuff.com/Main.aspx?AFID=killthecan)
Awesome, thanks a ton. I need a change up from Smokey Mountain.
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Try hooch spitfire.
I checked out their site. Anyone know a coupon code or a cheaper way to get the stuff before I order some from " https://hoochsnuff.com/Main.aspx (https://hoochsnuff.com/Main.aspx) " ?
KillTheCan.org users will receive a sample pack (1 of each flavor - Mint, Cherry, Spitfire, Wintergreen, Classic and Whiskey) for $12 (a savings of $5) when they enter coupon code "killthecan.org" at checkout. Coupon code can only be used once per order and twice per customer.
^^^
What he said: http://www.hoochsnuff.com/Main.aspx?AFID=killthecan (http://www.hoochsnuff.com/Main.aspx?AFID=killthecan)
Awesome, thanks a ton. I need a change up from Smokey Mountain.
I loved the Spitfire. I used it as much as I had used 'Hagen for about the first 200 days or so.
I don't use anything anymore regularly, but I do keep stocked up on Oregon Mint Snuff pouches. They stiffle anything close to a crave, and they do wonders for bad breath.
My .02
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Good morning KTC!
KDip and I have just finished setting up the booth for today's Summit. There's already quite a few people here. Smokey Mountain Snuff, Jake's Mint Snuff, and Nip the Grip have been very generous and sent out many free samples of their products. Breakfast looks good, and opening ceremonies begin at 8:30 am. We are both very excited to represent the KTC here.
Please stop by chat today. We should be in and out today and would love to say hi!
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WHen did the new site go live? Looks sweet!!! Quite a nice update indeed!
Brink
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WHen did the new site go live? Looks sweet!!! Quite a nice update indeed!
Brink
Thanks Brink! I started putting it live last night. Still got some tinkering to do, but well on the way.
Thanks again!
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Good morning KTC!
KDip and I have just finished setting up the booth for today's Summit. There's already quite a few people here. Smokey Mountain Snuff, Jake's Mint Snuff, and Nip the Grip have been very generous and sent out many free samples of their products. Breakfast looks good, and opening ceremonies begin at 8:30 am. We are both very excited to represent the KTC here.
Please stop by chat today. We should be in and out today and would love to say hi!
'clap'
You guys will do a GREAT job !!
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New blog post: KillTheCan.org Hits 16,000 Members!
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/08/kill ... 0-members/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/08/killthecan-org-hits-16000-members/)
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Day 2 is beginning, and all I have to say is I love college (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYx7YG0RsFY)!
We had an awesome day yesterday (and don't worry...we have some blog posts to come shortly!). We made a lot of new friends. Luckily, our reputation has preceded us and people are very curious about us. Many quit programs are starting to focus on smokeless, and they are realizing that NRT's are ineffective at best with this process.
It's starting to heat up, so I'll see you guys later! Make sure to stop by chat today. We might make an appearance!
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Day 1 is in the record books. Things starting to heat up and Waste is already busy recruiting hookers. We attended some informative seminars on how the tobacco companies market to their target audience which has been expanding in recent years. It is no longer just the rough and tough white male. It is now being heavily marketed to white collar workers and women under the guise that smokeless is an alternative when you can't light up. They say they aren't marketing to children but the adds we were shown tell a totally different story.
Please keep the chat room staffed today as we hope to drop in some today. Quit for today from Missoula
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Day 1 is in the record books. Things starting to heat up and Waste is already busy recruiting hookers. We attended some informative seminars on how the tobacco companies market to their target audience which has been expanding in recent years. It is no longer just the rough and tough white male. It is now being heavily marketed to white collar workers and women under the guise that smokeless is an alternative when you can't light up. They say they aren't marketing to children but the adds we were shown tell a totally different story.
Please keep the chat room staffed today as we hope to drop in some today. Quit for today from Missoula
Kick ass kdip and Waste!
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'ello everyone!
It's mls and I've been through hell and back. Between medical issues with myself and my son then out of the blue my husband leaves. I was low.
The lowest I've ever felt.
But .................
Out of all the bad there is good ..... I'm still quit ...Day 2408!
Because I take it one day at a time!
Love you guys ......
Nickie
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'ello everyone!
It's mls and I've been through hell and back. Between medical issues with myself and my son then out of the blue my husband leaves. I was low.
The lowest I've ever felt.
But .................
Out of all the bad there is good ..... I'm still quit ...Day 2408!
Because I take it one day at a time!
Love you guys ......
Nickie
Sorry to hear about your personal issues Nic, but SO glad to have you back!
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'ello everyone!
It's mls and I've been through hell and back. Between medical issues with myself and my son then out of the blue my husband leaves. I was low.
The lowest I've ever felt.
But .................
Out of all the bad there is good ..... I'm still quit ...Day 2408!
Because I take it one day at a time!
Love you guys ......
Nickie
Sorry to hear about your personal issues Nic, but SO glad to have you back!
It was nice to meet you and great chatting with you tonight. Hope to see you around a lot more.
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So I was walking past a local liquor store here in Maine, and I see a sign, “We carry Jake’s Mint Snuff!” I said, “Whhaaaaaa???????”
So I went in and asked if they in deed, had some. The guy behind the counter, you would have thought I told him he won the lottery.
“You BET we do! I got two flavors!”
I told him I didnÂ’t want any (I stopped using the fake a couple years ago), but I was curious as to why he had it?
He looked at me quite puzzled, “Why?!?! Well, it’s a healthy alternative to tobacco!”
I said, “Damn Straight!” and shook his hand.
We stood there a few minutes and I told him I quit a few years ago, and I use mints every now and then. Sadly, he said they donÂ’t sell much, but we did talk about other alternatives. I didnÂ’t ask if he was a Quitter or not, but it was just nice to see a local business guy trying to help push something other than tobacco.
Â…at a liquor store, no less!
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dam chewy i thot may be you got rid of the calculater on the home page and i was all 'how the hell am i ever gonna figger out what my day is if jack doesnt post up?' :blink: cuz man i no its jack - 5550. any ways im glad its back out there and i can get on postin up erly in the day. evin if i miss a day and cant post up yesterday +1. so man thanks for not losin that for good.
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I need to know where / how to post roll. I mean I know how to copy paste and add my name, but where do i start? I quit on 7/10/13. Any help is appreciated.
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I need to know where / how to post roll. I mean I know how to copy paste and add my name, but where do i start? I quit on 7/10/13. Any help is appreciated.
Have you checked out the welcome center? Also, you will be posting in Oct 2013 group..so head on in there and post up..introduce yourself and get some numbers.
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So I have a question... and maybe this is me putting the cart before the horse a bit. I'm in Day 4... everything is manageable-ish thus far, but the only reason is probably because I am packing in Smokey Mountain like it is my fucking job... and by manageable i mean a royal fucking pain in the ass that makes me want to go head first in a log of skoal....but that is not for me anymore... QLF...
Those of you that utilized the fake stuff in your quit... When did you finally start weening yourself from the fake stuff? Or did you ever stop using the fake stuff....
I am on day 20 of my quit and I went through 4 cans of the fake stuff. I ran out of SM around day 5, felt a little panicky but never made it to the store to get another can.
I was pretty heavy on Beef Jerky and cinnamon gum for a week or so but pretty much nothing now.
I guess the desire to have something in your mouth fades away with time. I'm shocked that mine went away that quickly because the only time I didn't have Cope in my lip, was when I was asleep.
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So I have a question... and maybe this is me putting the cart before the horse a bit. I'm in Day 4... everything is manageable-ish thus far, but the only reason is probably because I am packing in Smokey Mountain like it is my fucking job... and by manageable i mean a royal fucking pain in the ass that makes me want to go head first in a log of skoal....but that is not for me anymore... QLF...
Those of you that utilized the fake stuff in your quit... When did you finally start weening yourself from the fake stuff? Or did you ever stop using the fake stuff....
I am on day 20 of my quit and I went through 4 cans of the fake stuff. I ran out of SM around day 5, felt a little panicky but never made it to the store to get another can.
I was pretty heavy on Beef Jerky and cinnamon gum for a week or so but pretty much nothing now.
I guess the desire to have something in your mouth fades away with time. I'm shocked that mine went away that quickly because the only time I didn't have Cope in my lip, was when I was asleep.
Don't worry about it! I used for nearly 100 days steady and then occasionally after that. But that's just one old fart!
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So I have a question... and maybe this is me putting the cart before the horse a bit. I'm in Day 4... everything is manageable-ish thus far, but the only reason is probably because I am packing in Smokey Mountain like it is my fucking job... and by manageable i mean a royal fucking pain in the ass that makes me want to go head first in a log of skoal....but that is not for me anymore... QLF...
Those of you that utilized the fake stuff in your quit... When did you finally start weening yourself from the fake stuff? Or did you ever stop using the fake stuff....
I am on day 20 of my quit and I went through 4 cans of the fake stuff. I ran out of SM around day 5, felt a little panicky but never made it to the store to get another can.
I was pretty heavy on Beef Jerky and cinnamon gum for a week or so but pretty much nothing now.
I guess the desire to have something in your mouth fades away with time. I'm shocked that mine went away that quickly because the only time I didn't have Cope in my lip, was when I was asleep.
Don't worry about it! I used for nearly 100 days steady and then occasionally after that. But that's just one old fart!
I didn't use fake for the 2-3 weeks 'cause "I'll do this like a man". Big mistake. Stupid. I then decided my quit was much more important than my machismo and starting buying SM by the box. At some point around 200 days I saw a discussion about fake dip on the forums. I couldn't even remember the last time I had any SM, much less if I still had any laying around. The point? Years from now you will not get dressed, drive 20 minutes to the convenience store in a blizzard at midnight because you ran out of Smokey Mountain.
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So I have a question... and maybe this is me putting the cart before the horse a bit. I'm in Day 4... everything is manageable-ish thus far, but the only reason is probably because I am packing in Smokey Mountain like it is my fucking job... and by manageable i mean a royal fucking pain in the ass that makes me want to go head first in a log of skoal....but that is not for me anymore... QLF...
Those of you that utilized the fake stuff in your quit... When did you finally start weening yourself from the fake stuff? Or did you ever stop using the fake stuff....
I am on day 20 of my quit and I went through 4 cans of the fake stuff. I ran out of SM around day 5, felt a little panicky but never made it to the store to get another can.
I was pretty heavy on Beef Jerky and cinnamon gum for a week or so but pretty much nothing now.
I guess the desire to have something in your mouth fades away with time. I'm shocked that mine went away that quickly because the only time I didn't have Cope in my lip, was when I was asleep.
Don't worry about it! I used for nearly 100 days steady and then occasionally after that. But that's just one old fart!
I didn't use fake for the 2-3 weeks 'cause "I'll do this like a man". Big mistake. Stupid. I then decided my quit was much more important than my machismo and starting buying SM by the box. At some point around 200 days I saw a discussion about fake dip on the forums. I couldn't even remember the last time I had any SM, much less if I still had any laying around. The point? Years from now you will not get dressed, drive 20 minutes to the convenience store in a blizzard at midnight because you ran out of Smokey Mountain.
I used it daily for the first 150 or so days. After day 150 my useage slowed and on day 250 or there abouts I stopped using it altogether. Opinions vary on fake usage but I found it to be very helpful.
My first fear was I would change one for the other, but there is nothing in the fake to keep you hooked and you will get tired of it eventually. If it helps you then go for it...
STAY QUIT
Greg
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Day 2 is beginning, and all I have to say is I love college (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYx7YG0RsFY)!
We had an awesome day yesterday (and don't worry...we have some blog posts to come shortly!). We made a lot of new friends. Luckily, our reputation has preceded us and people are very curious about us. Many quit programs are starting to focus on smokeless, and they are realizing that NRT's are ineffective at best with this process.
It's starting to heat up, so I'll see you guys later! Make sure to stop by chat today. We might make an appearance!
SO?!?!?!
How'd it go!?!?!?
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Day 2 is beginning, and all I have to say is I love college (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYx7YG0RsFY)!
We had an awesome day yesterday (and don't worry...we have some blog posts to come shortly!). We made a lot of new friends. Luckily, our reputation has preceded us and people are very curious about us. Many quit programs are starting to focus on smokeless, and they are realizing that NRT's are ineffective at best with this process.
It's starting to heat up, so I'll see you guys later! Make sure to stop by chat today. We might make an appearance!
SO?!?!?!
How'd it go!?!?!?
Day 2 is posted here (http://www.killthecan.org/2013-smokeless-spit-tobacco-summit-day-2-recap/) on the blog, and day 3 should go up shortly.
The summit itself was amazing.
Beautiful campus, beautiful state, and tons of people out there fighting the same battle we are. However...
Many of those fighting the battle with us don't know how hard it is to quit. The educational literature is based on prevention and message, while the studies stop at the decision level. We need to change that. We need to get out our message as to what it actually takes to be quit.
We need to craft our message into this academia crowd.
Impact=effectiveness X Reach
(I totally stole that equation from a doctor there.)
Our message is of quit, and we are the most effective program out there to quit smokeless tobacco. We extend all over the US. We should never be content with anything less than success, and we should be available to anybody out there that wants to be quit. We can't be drowned out by all of the "theories" out there on how to quit when we know the secret already.
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Day 2 is beginning, and all I have to say is I love college (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYx7YG0RsFY)!
We had an awesome day yesterday (and don't worry...we have some blog posts to come shortly!). We made a lot of new friends. Luckily, our reputation has preceded us and people are very curious about us. Many quit programs are starting to focus on smokeless, and they are realizing that NRT's are ineffective at best with this process.
It's starting to heat up, so I'll see you guys later! Make sure to stop by chat today. We might make an appearance!
SO?!?!?!
How'd it go!?!?!?
Day 2 is posted here (http://www.killthecan.org/2013-smokeless-spit-tobacco-summit-day-2-recap/) on the blog, and day 3 should go up shortly.
The summit itself was amazing.
Beautiful campus, beautiful state, and tons of people out there fighting the same battle we are. However...
Many of those fighting the battle with us don't know how hard it is to quit. The educational literature is based on prevention and message, while the studies stop at the decision level. We need to change that. We need to get out our message as to what it actually takes to be quit.
We need to craft our message into this academia crowd.
Impact=effectiveness X Reach
(I totally stole that equation from a doctor there.)
Our message is of quit, and we are the most effective program out there to quit smokeless tobacco. We extend all over the US. We should never be content with anything less than success, and we should be available to anybody out there that wants to be quit. We can't be drowned out by all of the "theories" out there on how to quit when we know the secret already.
Awesome!
Can't wait to hear how it ended up.
Nice job you two, and thanks for representing!
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Why the fuck can I not change my avitar? Am I missing something. Its very innocent, not like I'm putting a pic of my schlong out there. Pissing me off.
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Why the fuck can I not change my avitar? Am I missing something. Its very innocent, not like I'm putting a pic of my schlong out there. Pissing me off.
Make sure it is the proper type of file. That's most likely the problem. This was my first forum and it took me forever to find an avatar file that was acceptable. I kept getting an error message that told me I needed another extension.
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Why the fuck can I not change my avitar? Am I missing something. Its very innocent, not like I'm putting a pic of my schlong out there. Pissing me off.
Make sure it is the proper type of file. That's most likely the problem. This was my first forum and it took me forever to find an avatar file that was acceptable. I kept getting an error message that told me I needed another extension.
It listed the "acceptable" types, .jpeg etc... And I made sure it was on of the ones listed but still kept getting an error saying I don't know what I'm doing.
Steaming
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First post - looking to get started..
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First post - looking to get started..
Hit the "community" tab and then goto the intro section and start an intro for yourself.
Tell us about yourself there.
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Hey how do I get chat app on Android?
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Hey how do I get chat app on Android?
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/05/mobi ... available/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/05/mobile-chat-now-available/)
I'm also working on a new chat that won't require flash. It's a couple if weeks out though.
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Hey how do I get chat app on Android?
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/05/mobi ... available/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/05/mobile-chat-now-available/)
I'm also working on a new chat that won't require flash. It's a couple if weeks out though.
You're supposed to be on vacation!
Dang! Now we need to behave again.
:P
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Hey new on here haven't quit yet not sure exactly how bad it is anyways since most days I chew maybe twice a day? Anyone else chew less than normal people usually do?
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Hey new on here haven't quit yet not sure exactly how bad it is anyways since most days I chew maybe twice a day? Anyone else chew less than normal people usually do?
We don't chew at all. Not anymore.
See the pink "Welcome Center" above to learn about the site after you take out that last dip, toss your can and decide you're going to do this.
It ain't easy, actually it sucks. For a while. It way better, and freedom is worth it. We can help.
Do it. Now.
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Hey new on here haven't quit yet not sure exactly how bad it is anyways since most days I chew maybe twice a day? Anyone else chew less than normal people usually do?
Your still an addict and the smartest thing you can do is quit now before you wake up someday and realize decades have passed and your entire life is controlled by the worm dirt 24/7! You sound like an addict that is trying to justify your minimal using.
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Is 2 pinches a day considered a bad addiction
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Is 2 pinches a day considered a bad addiction
Is one hit of cocaine a week bad? How about a joint "only in the mornings?"
Is just a little bit of cancer ok?
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Is 2 pinches a day considered a bad addiction
Is one hit of cocaine a week bad? How about a joint "only in the mornings?"
Is just a little bit of cancer ok?
Do you want to be quit?
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Is 2 pinches a day considered a bad addiction
Is one hit of cocaine a week bad? How about a joint "only in the mornings?"
Is just a little bit of cancer ok?
Do you want to be quit?
Two pinches a day is two pinches too many. And "normal" people don't chew at all.
With an addict one is too many and 1,000 is never enough.
Obviously this is getting to you if you are here. Why do you feel it necessary to have ANY pinches during the day? Because your an addict that's why.
Hit the welcome center and start posting role if your serious and let us help you kiill the can.
With Diesel in your name your ass better not be trolling around hyming and hawing about quitting. Diesels quit.
Live up to your name!!!
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Is 2 pinches a day considered a bad addiction
Is one hit of cocaine a week bad? How about a joint "only in the mornings?"
Is just a little bit of cancer ok?
Do you want to be quit?
Two pinches a day is two pinches too many. And "normal" people don't chew at all.
With an addict one is too many and 1,000 is never enough.
Obviously this is getting to you if you are here. Why do you feel it necessary to have ANY pinches during the day? Because your an addict that's why.
Hit the welcome center and start posting role if your serious and let us help you kiill the can.
With Diesel in your name your ass better not be trolling around hyming and hawing about quitting. Diesels quit.
Live up to your name!!!
Four years ago, a doctor lopped off 2/3 of my cousins tongue to remove a dime sized piece of death and slit his throat from ear to ear and removed all his lymph nodes. He now has a piece of muscle that used to be in his forearm sewed to his tongue.
Was he a heavy dipper? No. He smoked a couple of the plastic tipped cigars a week.
So.....is that too many? Was it caused by that?
I don't know, nobody does. I choose to risk it no longer.
What will you do?
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Yes I do want to be quit before my addiction turns into a can a day the longer a person waits it can only get worse
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Yes I do want to be quit before my addiction turns into a can a day the longer a person waits it can only get worse
What are you waiting for?
Tell yourself that you are quit. Be quit. Tell us that you are quit.
It's one of the most sobering experiences you can do.
You'll be surprised how bad that 2 pinch a day "habit" will make you feel these first days. That's because you are physically addicted to nicotine. Your body needs to break that dependency to heal, and it can't until you stop putting the drug into your system.
Take it one moment...one minte...one hour...one day at a time.
You can do this. If you want to be quit, then be it.
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Yes I do want to be quit before my addiction turns into a can a day the longer a person waits it can only get worse
What are you waiting for?
Tell yourself that you are quit. Be quit. Tell us that you are quit.
It's one of the most sobering experiences you can do.
You'll be surprised how bad that 2 pinch a day "habit" will make you feel these first days. That's because you are physically addicted to nicotine. Your body needs to break that dependency to heal, and it can't until you stop putting the drug into your system.
Take it one moment...one minte...one hour...one day at a time.
You can do this. If you want to be quit, then be it.
I agree. Stop talking about it and start quitting.
No better time than the present!!
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Day #3 Recap From The 2013 Smokeless Spit Tobacco Summit
http://www.killthecan.org/day-3-recap-f ... co-summit/ (http://www.killthecan.org/day-3-recap-from-the-2013-smokeless-spit-tobacco-summit/)
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I just quit for good. Man I am ready to embrace the suck!
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I just quit for good. Man I am ready to embrace the suck!
Well gird your loins, Vet! It's going to be a battle, but you've got the right idea...the suck is the only path to freedom. Welcome!
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Is 2 pinches a day considered a bad addiction
Is one hit of cocaine a week bad? How about a joint "only in the mornings?"
Is just a little bit of cancer ok?
Do you want to be quit?
Two pinches a day is two pinches too many. And "normal" people don't chew at all.
With an addict one is too many and 1,000 is never enough.
Obviously this is getting to you if you are here. Why do you feel it necessary to have ANY pinches during the day? Because your an addict that's why.
Hit the welcome center and start posting role if your serious and let us help you kiill the can.
With Diesel in your name your ass better not be trolling around hyming and hawing about quitting. Diesels quit.
Live up to your name!!!
Four years ago, a doctor lopped off 2/3 of my cousins tongue to remove a dime sized piece of death and slit his throat from ear to ear and removed all his lymph nodes. He now has a piece of muscle that used to be in his forearm sewed to his tongue.
Was he a heavy dipper? No. He smoked a couple of the plastic tipped cigars a week.
So.....is that too many? Was it caused by that?
I don't know, nobody does. I choose to risk it no longer.
What will you do?
Fuckin' A, Dieslboy, please tell us what a GOOD addiction looks like! If you're an addict, you're an addict!!
I haven't had nicotine in my body in 4 years...and I'm a fucking ADDICT!
Get your head on straight and stop being a pussy, trying to justify using poison. Everyone on here is an addict. Junkies. ALL of us. Men and women, teens and senior citizens, CEO's, grocery baggers and bums. None of us is "special". Not me. Not you. Nobody.
My mom thinks I'm special. My Quit Brothers think I'm an addict. And in here, they're the ones whose opinion counts.
Go post roll, then stay free of nicotine today. Tomorrow do the same thing. And the next day. And the next.
And live.
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I just quit for good. Man I am ready to embrace the suck!
Don't worry about "for good". Just worry about being quit TODAY!
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Today makes 3,000. It is possible. We all have to start at Day 1. We all have to go through the same bullshit. Stop lurking, join up, hit Roll Call everyday, make some friends, and get it done. Before it's too late. You have hundreds of living, breathing examples on this site. Examples that want you clean more than you do and are willing to help you navigate the waters. Turn hour back on it and you are a fool.
You are here for a reason. You came here on purpose. It's time bro.. it's time for action. No more lurking.
LOOT - Day 3,000 and loving life.
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Today makes 3,000. It is possible. We all have to start at Day 1. We all have to go through the same bullshit. Stop lurking, join up, hit Roll Call everyday, make some friends, and get it done. Before it's too late. You have hundreds of living, breathing examples on this site. Examples that want you clean more than you do and are willing to help you navigate the waters. Turn hour back on it and you are a fool.
You are here for a reason. You came here on purpose. It's time bro.. it's time for action. No more lurking.
LOOT - Day 3,000 and loving life.
Didn't post with you because I never have but... you are the man L00T, seriously you are, thanks for being around here keeping us freaks sane!
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hey guys i just passed 2 year mark of dipping (I am in no way proud of that). I've tried to quit plenty of times ,but i fall back into it. I am military and currentley not in the states. I'm always bored here and dippin seems like the only thing to do. We have a class where you can get the pills,gum,patch etc. I dont wanna go that route what so ever. I have tried gum,seeds,mints. That will work for a day or so then i just stroll to the b and grab a can. I nee help please anyone who has been in this situation help !!! Also when i would go a day without it I really on edge and very easly irritated.
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hey guys i just passed 2 year mark of dipping (I am in no way proud of that). I've tried to quit plenty of times ,but i fall back into it. I am military and currentley not in the states. I'm always bored here and dippin seems like the only thing to do. We have a class where you can get the pills,gum,patch etc. I dont wanna go that route what so ever. I have tried gum,seeds,mints. That will work for a day or so then i just stroll to the b and grab a can. I nee help please anyone who has been in this situation help !!! Also when i would go a day without it I really on edge and very easly irritated.
We've all been in this situation. Doesn't matter if I your mommas basement or Timbuktu. Addiction is addiction and quittin is quittin.
The reason you can't quit is because you're an addict, and your not trying hard enough.
You're bored and dipping is the only thing to do? What's more boring than sucking on a lip full of poisonous catshit and spitting it into a bottle? Real EXCITING! That's just one of the many lies your addicted brain tell you...that dipping cures boredome. I dipped for 15 years and can honestly say dipping was one of the most boring things I've ever done. Personally I'd rather jack off or play candy crush.
Around here we quit by posting a promise to ourselves and the rest of the brothers and sisters here that we will not use nicotine in any form for today. We don't wallow in the past and we don't think about tomorrow. We simply quit one day at a time.
Is it easy? Fuck no.
Is it worth it? Fuck yes.
Just scroll down and look what this Loot chracter wrote. Guts been quit for 3,000 fucking days, guys a maniac of quit, but does it one day at a time. How did he get there? He started at day one.
That's what you need to do. Go to the Welcome center at the top left of the page and read up on how to get into a quit group and how to post roll. Then, dump all your chew into the toilet, flush it, wave it bye bye and post your promise with the #1 beside it.
You also may want to start an intro page in the intro section. This is a place where you can not only chronicle your quit, but come to ask questions, rage, rant, cry, tell people to eat shit, etc...
But you have to start at day one, like we all did. Yes, you will get irritated and edgy at first, like we all did. But with some balls, some accountability, and the help of the brothers and sisters on this site, you can quit...like we all are.
Do it.
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hey guys i just passed 2 year mark of dipping (I am in no way proud of that). I've tried to quit plenty of times ,but i fall back into it. I am military and currentley not in the states. I'm always bored here and dippin seems like the only thing to do. We have a class where you can get the pills,gum,patch etc. I dont wanna go that route what so ever. I have tried gum,seeds,mints. That will work for a day or so then i just stroll to the b and grab a can. I nee help please anyone who has been in this situation help !!! Also when i would go a day without it I really on edge and very easly irritated.
You sound at least a little intellegent as you are looking to quit after only 2 years of use and not after 10, 16 (my case), 20, 30+ years like most of us.
Now, you need to acknowledge that your stopping in the past and every decision to put that stuff in your yapper is all by choice. No one forced you. Don't blame being in the military, being surrounded by it, boring days overseas etc. on your use. You either accept that you are an addict to nicotine and decide to quit and fight like hell to remain quit, or you choose to continue to be a slave to the can. Both are your choices. Oh, there are many guys here that are active military, in the US and overseas, that post roll everyday and even get involved in Live Chat. Sorry, that isn't a valid excuse or justification to use.
Post Roll: Why (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=120)? How (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50)?
Every day you log into your “Group”, a bunch of guys all quitting together and going through the same suck, fog, cravings, etc. You “Post Roll”; add your name and the number of days quit that you are. This is your promise, a pledge to your quit brothers and sisters, to yourself, and to everyone else here on KTC to not use nicotine in any way, shape, or form, for the next 24 hours. Keep your promise. A man is nothing if his word is no good.
Get Involved:
Read: Introductions (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=25) and HOF Speeches (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=90). Read the banter in other groups. Read the non-dip discussions in the Wilcard (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=11) section when you want to get away from thoughts of dip. By doing this you will realize that you are not alone in the feeling you are having. You will gain strength through others. And, you will get to know these people on a personal level, which adds accountability.
Send out a few PMs:
Send out a PM to someone in your group, or to someone that posted something that you related to. Offer your phone number. I bet you will get a phone number in return. Store those numbers in your phone and USE THEM in a moment of weakness. Sending a text out has prevented me from caving more than a few times. Sometimes I didn’t even need a response, just taking a few seconds to text was all it took to get me thinking straight again. Other times the response I got was, “you do NOT have permission to cave”, which I took to heart.
Every tool you need to QUIT and remain QUIT is here, for free, but you have to want it. No one can quit for you, but we can offer support whenever you need it.
So, think about if you really want to quit and if you want to quit for you. If they answer is yes, read the links I posted and then head over to Pre HOF November 2013 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=8568) and post your promise to remain clean today.
Wecome to the madness.
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Today makes 3,000. It is possible. We all have to start at Day 1. We all have to go through the same bullshit. Stop lurking, join up, hit Roll Call everyday, make some friends, and get it done. Before it's too late. You have hundreds of living, breathing examples on this site. Examples that want you clean more than you do and are willing to help you navigate the waters. Turn hour back on it and you are a fool.
You are here for a reason. You came here on purpose. It's time bro.. it's time for action. No more lurking.
LOOT - Day 3,000 and loving life.
Didn't post with you because I never have but... you are the man L00T, seriously you are, thanks for being around here keeping us freaks sane!
'archer' shocker Nice work Loot, nice work indeed!
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hey guys i just passed 2 year mark of dipping (I am in no way proud of that). I've tried to quit plenty of times ,but i fall back into it. I am military and currentley not in the states. I'm always bored here and dippin seems like the only thing to do. We have a class where you can get the pills,gum,patch etc. I dont wanna go that route what so ever. I have tried gum,seeds,mints. That will work for a day or so then i just stroll to the b and grab a can. I nee help please anyone who has been in this situation help !!! Also when i would go a day without it I really on edge and very easly irritated.
From a 40+ year addict please quit for your freedom. Here you are in the US Military working and fighting for freedom from oppression. But you are submitting yourself to slavery giving up your own freedom to a chemical that can kill you. You are definitely not alone, we can look around and see how many people voluntarily give up their freedom. I challenge you to look around this site and see how hard so many people here work to retrieve their freedom from the grasps of nicotine. Join us today and everyday!
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Today makes 3,000. It is possible. We all have to start at Day 1. We all have to go through the same bullshit. Stop lurking, join up, hit Roll Call everyday, make some friends, and get it done. Before it's too late. You have hundreds of living, breathing examples on this site. Examples that want you clean more than you do and are willing to help you navigate the waters. Turn hour back on it and you are a fool.
You are here for a reason. You came here on purpose. It's time bro.. it's time for action. No more lurking.
LOOT - Day 3,000 and loving life.
Congrats on the tries, amigo.
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Today makes 3,000. It is possible. We all have to start at Day 1. We all have to go through the same bullshit. Stop lurking, join up, hit Roll Call everyday, make some friends, and get it done. Before it's too late. You have hundreds of living, breathing examples on this site. Examples that want you clean more than you do and are willing to help you navigate the waters. Turn hour back on it and you are a fool.
You are here for a reason. You came here on purpose. It's time bro.. it's time for action. No more lurking.
LOOT - Day 3,000 and loving life.
Congrats on the tries, amigo.
I will second this Congratulations, I was traveling all weekend and could not post (New Mexico thing), you rock Loot! Thanks for everything you have done and what you continue to do.
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Today makes 3,000. It is possible. We all have to start at Day 1. We all have to go through the same bullshit. Stop lurking, join up, hit Roll Call everyday, make some friends, and get it done. Before it's too late. You have hundreds of living, breathing examples on this site. Examples that want you clean more than you do and are willing to help you navigate the waters. Turn hour back on it and you are a fool.
You are here for a reason. You came here on purpose. It's time bro.. it's time for action. No more lurking.
LOOT - Day 3,000 and loving life.
Congrats on the tries, amigo.
I will second this Congratulations, I was traveling all weekend and could not post (New Mexico thing), you rock Loot! Thanks for everything you have done and what you continue to do.
Dang it loot...I meant tres not tries. Dang autocorrect. Hey cope.
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Can someone help me with some advice. I recently quit smoking and gave up caffeine. Had to doctors orders. I was given the dx of cancer on my vocal cords, doc said it was because of reflux. Now the smell of my husband's dip makes me sick to my stomach. I told him when I quit smoking I didn't expect him to quit with me. I started vaping and it helped me quit, no ill effects with quitting, reflux is going away. He's quit dipping before with the help of the patch and an herbal dip but 1 we don't remember the name of the dip, 2 the navy gave him samples and he's no longer in the navy. My sense of smell is stronger now I've quit smoking and the smell of his dip makes me ill. He says he'll quit dipping again only if I can find a dip that is 1 like his old herbal dip or 2 like Copenhagen. Can someone please help me.
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Can someone help me with some advice. I recently quit smoking and gave up caffeine. Had to doctors orders. I was given the dx of cancer on my vocal cords, doc said it was because of reflux. Now the smell of my husband's dip makes me sick to my stomach. I told him when I quit smoking I didn't expect him to quit with me. I started vaping and it helped me quit, no ill effects with quitting, reflux is going away. He's quit dipping before with the help of the patch and an herbal dip but 1 we don't remember the name of the dip, 2 the navy gave him samples and he's no longer in the navy. My sense of smell is stronger now I've quit smoking and the smell of his dip makes me ill. He says he'll quit dipping again only if I can find a dip that is 1 like his old herbal dip or 2 like Copenhagen. Can someone please help me.
Good morning! There are several alternatives out there. Not sure which one he's used in the past but here's a pretty extensive list (with some coupons reviews as well!)
Let us know how we can help either of you.
http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/smo ... ernatives/ (http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/smokeless-alternatives/)
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Can someone help me with some advice. I recently quit smoking and gave up caffeine. Had to doctors orders. I was given the dx of cancer on my vocal cords, doc said it was because of reflux. Now the smell of my husband's dip makes me sick to my stomach. I told him when I quit smoking I didn't expect him to quit with me. I started vaping and it helped me quit, no ill effects with quitting, reflux is going away. He's quit dipping before with the help of the patch and an herbal dip but 1 we don't remember the name of the dip, 2 the navy gave him samples and he's no longer in the navy. My sense of smell is stronger now I've quit smoking and the smell of his dip makes me ill. He says he'll quit dipping again only if I can find a dip that is 1 like his old herbal dip or 2 like Copenhagen. Can someone please help me.
Good morning! There are several alternatives out there. Not sure which one he's used in the past but here's a pretty extensive list (with some coupons reviews as well!)
Let us know how we can help either of you.
http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/smo ... ernatives/ (http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/smokeless-alternatives/)
Ole Chewie hooked you up. Lots of choices. Do you have a Wal-Mart near you? Many of them carry Smoky Mountain fake dip. My local WM just started carrying it recently. Never used it personally, but glad to see it there.
So you're "vaping". Nicotine, or no?
I know it's none of my business, but it seems to me that a little bit of consideration for his spouse's cancer diagnosis would encourage him to keep it away from you.
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Can someone help me with some advice. I recently quit smoking and gave up caffeine. Had to doctors orders. I was given the dx of cancer on my vocal cords, doc said it was because of reflux. Now the smell of my husband's dip makes me sick to my stomach. I told him when I quit smoking I didn't expect him to quit with me. I started vaping and it helped me quit, no ill effects with quitting, reflux is going away. He's quit dipping before with the help of the patch and an herbal dip but 1 we don't remember the name of the dip, 2 the navy gave him samples and he's no longer in the navy. My sense of smell is stronger now I've quit smoking and the smell of his dip makes me ill. He says he'll quit dipping again only if I can find a dip that is 1 like his old herbal dip or 2 like Copenhagen. Can someone please help me.
Good morning! There are several alternatives out there. Not sure which one he's used in the past but here's a pretty extensive list (with some coupons reviews as well!)
Let us know how we can help either of you.
http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/smo ... ernatives/ (http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/smokeless-alternatives/)
Ole Chewie hooked you up. Lots of choices. Do you have a Wal-Mart near you? Many of them carry Smoky Mountain fake dip. My local WM just started carrying it recently. Never used it personally, but glad to see it there.
So you're "vaping". Nicotine, or no?
I know it's none of my business, but it seems to me that a little bit of consideration for his spouse's cancer diagnosis would encourage him to keep it away from you.
Be strong, but know that you are not quit. There are no adverse effects because you are not in withdrawal.
In fact, you may be interfering with your treatment. (http://www.nbcnews.com/id/12122160/ns/health-cancer/t/nicotine-supplements-may-affect-cancer-therapy/#.UhZEoH8kiSo)
You can do this. You don't need the drug.
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Umm, I really am in need of phone numbers!!!
Thanks
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Umm, I really am in need of phone numbers!!!
Thanks
Ugh! I can't live chat on my phone!
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still need to chat? im having a rough night too
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OK - I picked my day and it's tomorrow. I chew about a tin a week. I know - not as much as some. My biggest problem trying to quit is i keep it well hidden. My wife and kids have no idea. My biggest trigger is always longer car rides by myself. It's been very difficult to avoid chewing in those situations.
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OK - I picked my day and it's tomorrow. I chew about a tin a week. I know - not as much as some. My biggest problem trying to quit is i keep it well hidden. My wife and kids have no idea. My biggest trigger is always longer car rides by myself. It's been very difficult to avoid chewing in those situations.
Here is a better idea. Pick now. Quit now. What is one more day of chewing going to do for you? Maybe the dip you throw in tonight while taking a dump is the one that will cause cancer. Is it worth one more day for?
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I know you're right. It has to be now.
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I know you're right. It has to be now.
Flush all our cans, hidden and otherwise. Dump your spitters. Declare yourself "QUIT" and be quit.
Start by clicking here -- Welcome Center (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13)
Read all of that. Pay close attention to WHY and HOW we post roll. That is your promise to remain clean for today. If you quit this instant then today is your day 1. Congrats! After you read WHY and HOW head over to the Quit Groups (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=2) and add your name a a "Day 1" to the Pre-HOF November 2013 group - that's your new home.
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Yesterday the site became difficult to navigate from my iPad. I was wondering if anyone else is having trouble with this and knows why it is happening. From my phone it looks just fine and I rarely have access to a regular computer anymore. I'll try to explain what's going on. Underneath each persons avatar in all different topics there is another picture. It's a cartoon girl in a red shirt with her hands up and the words Tomorrow, Tomorrow above her head. This thing is repeated all the way across the screen until the room for actual text is all in the one inch space on the right of the screen fitting just a few words per line and making each post really long. Sounds weird I know, but that's what's been going on the past 36 hours from my iPad. Any advice? Really want this cleared up.
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Yesterday the site became difficult to navigate from my iPad. I was wondering if anyone else is having trouble with this and knows why it is happening. From my phone it looks just fine and I rarely have access to a regular computer anymore. I'll try to explain what's going on. Underneath each persons avatar in all different topics there is another picture. It's a cartoon girl in a red shirt with her hands up and the words Tomorrow, Tomorrow above her head. This thing is repeated all the way across the screen until the room for actual text is all in the one inch space on the right of the screen fitting just a few words per line and making each post really long. Sounds weird I know, but that's what's been going on the past 36 hours from my iPad. Any advice? Really want this cleared up.
You mean :syndrome: ?
Sounds like syndrome's littl orfin anni is to blame. Better alert Chewie.
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Yesterday the site became difficult to navigate from my iPad. I was wondering if anyone else is having trouble with this and knows why it is happening. From my phone it looks just fine and I rarely have access to a regular computer anymore. I'll try to explain what's going on. Underneath each persons avatar in all different topics there is another picture. It's a cartoon girl in a red shirt with her hands up and the words Tomorrow, Tomorrow above her head. This thing is repeated all the way across the screen until the room for actual text is all in the one inch space on the right of the screen fitting just a few words per line and making each post really long. Sounds weird I know, but that's what's been going on the past 36 hours from my iPad. Any advice? Really want this cleared up.
You mean :syndrome: ?
Sounds like syndrome's littl orfin anni is to blame. Better alert Chewie.
Yep, that's it
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Yesterday the site became difficult to navigate from my iPad. I was wondering if anyone else is having trouble with this and knows why it is happening. From my phone it looks just fine and I rarely have access to a regular computer anymore. I'll try to explain what's going on. Underneath each persons avatar in all different topics there is another picture. It's a cartoon girl in a red shirt with her hands up and the words Tomorrow, Tomorrow above her head. This thing is repeated all the way across the screen until the room for actual text is all in the one inch space on the right of the screen fitting just a few words per line and making each post really long. Sounds weird I know, but that's what's been going on the past 36 hours from my iPad. Any advice? Really want this cleared up.
You mean :syndrome: ?
Sounds like syndrome's littl orfin anni is to blame. Better alert Chewie.
Yep, that's it
I'll take you issue to Chewie "behind the curtain". I'm sure it's a simple glitch, maybe on the site, maybe on the new host, maybe with your IOS. Thanks for the alert.
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Yesterday the site became difficult to navigate from my iPad. I was wondering if anyone else is having trouble with this and knows why it is happening. From my phone it looks just fine and I rarely have access to a regular computer anymore. I'll try to explain what's going on. Underneath each persons avatar in all different topics there is another picture. It's a cartoon girl in a red shirt with her hands up and the words Tomorrow, Tomorrow above her head. This thing is repeated all the way across the screen until the room for actual text is all in the one inch space on the right of the screen fitting just a few words per line and making each post really long. Sounds weird I know, but that's what's been going on the past 36 hours from my iPad. Any advice? Really want this cleared up.
You mean :syndrome: ?
Sounds like syndrome's littl orfin anni is to blame. Better alert Chewie.
Yep, that's it
I'll take you issue to Chewie "behind the curtain". I'm sure it's a simple glitch, maybe on the site, maybe on the new host, maybe with your IOS. Thanks for the alert.
Been having minor issues on Iphone as well. Just figured it was my pos phone....
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Yesterday the site became difficult to navigate from my iPad. I was wondering if anyone else is having trouble with this and knows why it is happening. From my phone it looks just fine and I rarely have access to a regular computer anymore. I'll try to explain what's going on. Underneath each persons avatar in all different topics there is another picture. It's a cartoon girl in a red shirt with her hands up and the words Tomorrow, Tomorrow above her head. This thing is repeated all the way across the screen until the room for actual text is all in the one inch space on the right of the screen fitting just a few words per line and making each post really long. Sounds weird I know, but that's what's been going on the past 36 hours from my iPad. Any advice? Really want this cleared up.
You mean :syndrome: ?
Sounds like syndrome's littl orfin anni is to blame. Better alert Chewie.
Yep, that's it
I'll take you issue to Chewie "behind the curtain". I'm sure it's a simple glitch, maybe on the site, maybe on the new host, maybe with your IOS. Thanks for the alert.
Been having minor issues on Iphone as well. Just figured it was my pos phone....
When you say "the site" are you referring to www.killthecan.org (http://www.killthecan.org) or forum.killthecan.org?
I'm assuming you're referring to the forums, but just want to make sure.
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Yesterday the site became difficult to navigate from my iPad. I was wondering if anyone else is having trouble with this and knows why it is happening. From my phone it looks just fine and I rarely have access to a regular computer anymore. I'll try to explain what's going on. Underneath each persons avatar in all different topics there is another picture. It's a cartoon girl in a red shirt with her hands up and the words Tomorrow, Tomorrow above her head. This thing is repeated all the way across the screen until the room for actual text is all in the one inch space on the right of the screen fitting just a few words per line and making each post really long. Sounds weird I know, but that's what's been going on the past 36 hours from my iPad. Any advice? Really want this cleared up.
You mean :syndrome: ?
Sounds like syndrome's littl orfin anni is to blame. Better alert Chewie.
Yep, that's it
I'll take you issue to Chewie "behind the curtain". I'm sure it's a simple glitch, maybe on the site, maybe on the new host, maybe with your IOS. Thanks for the alert.
Been having minor issues on Iphone as well. Just figured it was my pos phone....
When you say "the site" are you referring to www.killthecan.org (http://www.killthecan.org) or forum.killthecan.org?
I'm assuming you're referring to the forums, but just want to make sure.
I did some tinkering...
Let me know if that fixed the issue.
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I know you're right. It has to be now.
Flush all our cans, hidden and otherwise. Dump your spitters. Declare yourself "QUIT" and be quit.
Start by clicking here -- Welcome Center (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13)
Read all of that. Pay close attention to WHY and HOW we post roll. That is your promise to remain clean for today. If you quit this instant then today is your day 1. Congrats! After you read WHY and HOW head over to the Quit Groups (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=2) and add your name a a "Day 1" to the Pre-HOF November 2013 group - that's your new home.
I thought for a second that you realized yesterday was the day. Well, today is the day by your measurements so where are you? Maybe tomorrow never came (as is the usual thing), but today is here so what are you waiting for now?
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Yesterday the site became difficult to navigate from my iPad. I was wondering if anyone else is having trouble with this and knows why it is happening. From my phone it looks just fine and I rarely have access to a regular computer anymore. I'll try to explain what's going on. Underneath each persons avatar in all different topics there is another picture. It's a cartoon girl in a red shirt with her hands up and the words Tomorrow, Tomorrow above her head. This thing is repeated all the way across the screen until the room for actual text is all in the one inch space on the right of the screen fitting just a few words per line and making each post really long. Sounds weird I know, but that's what's been going on the past 36 hours from my iPad. Any advice? Really want this cleared up.
You mean :syndrome: ?
Sounds like syndrome's littl orfin anni is to blame. Better alert Chewie.
Yep, that's it
I'll take you issue to Chewie "behind the curtain". I'm sure it's a simple glitch, maybe on the site, maybe on the new host, maybe with your IOS. Thanks for the alert.
Been having minor issues on Iphone as well. Just figured it was my pos phone....
When you say "the site" are you referring to www.killthecan.org (http://www.killthecan.org) or forum.killthecan.org?
I'm assuming you're referring to the forums, but just want to make sure.
I did some tinkering...
Let me know if that fixed the issue.
Minor issue still (at least on iOS/ Safari)... The bars under the avatars are all red instead of green. Not sure if that is intentional or just a bug.
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Yesterday the site became difficult to navigate from my iPad. I was wondering if anyone else is having trouble with this and knows why it is happening. From my phone it looks just fine and I rarely have access to a regular computer anymore. I'll try to explain what's going on. Underneath each persons avatar in all different topics there is another picture. It's a cartoon girl in a red shirt with her hands up and the words Tomorrow, Tomorrow above her head. This thing is repeated all the way across the screen until the room for actual text is all in the one inch space on the right of the screen fitting just a few words per line and making each post really long. Sounds weird I know, but that's what's been going on the past 36 hours from my iPad. Any advice? Really want this cleared up.
You mean :syndrome: ?
Sounds like syndrome's littl orfin anni is to blame. Better alert Chewie.
Yep, that's it
I'll take you issue to Chewie "behind the curtain". I'm sure it's a simple glitch, maybe on the site, maybe on the new host, maybe with your IOS. Thanks for the alert.
Been having minor issues on Iphone as well. Just figured it was my pos phone....
When you say "the site" are you referring to www.killthecan.org (http://www.killthecan.org) or forum.killthecan.org?
I'm assuming you're referring to the forums, but just want to make sure.
I did some tinkering...
Let me know if that fixed the issue.
Minor issue still (at least on iOS/ Safari)... The bars under the avatars are all red instead of green. Not sure if that is intentional or just a bug.
I think that change was intentional, but would you prefer another color? Say, pink, mauve, coral, or blush?
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Yesterday the site became difficult to navigate from my iPad. I was wondering if anyone else is having trouble with this and knows why it is happening. From my phone it looks just fine and I rarely have access to a regular computer anymore. I'll try to explain what's going on. Underneath each persons avatar in all different topics there is another picture. It's a cartoon girl in a red shirt with her hands up and the words Tomorrow, Tomorrow above her head. This thing is repeated all the way across the screen until the room for actual text is all in the one inch space on the right of the screen fitting just a few words per line and making each post really long. Sounds weird I know, but that's what's been going on the past 36 hours from my iPad. Any advice? Really want this cleared up.
You mean :syndrome: ?
Sounds like syndrome's littl orfin anni is to blame. Better alert Chewie.
Yep, that's it
I'll take you issue to Chewie "behind the curtain". I'm sure it's a simple glitch, maybe on the site, maybe on the new host, maybe with your IOS. Thanks for the alert.
Been having minor issues on Iphone as well. Just figured it was my pos phone....
When you say "the site" are you referring to www.killthecan.org (http://www.killthecan.org) or forum.killthecan.org?
I'm assuming you're referring to the forums, but just want to make sure.
I did some tinkering...
Let me know if that fixed the issue.
Minor issue still (at least on iOS/ Safari)... The bars under the avatars are all red instead of green. Not sure if that is intentional or just a bug.
I think that change was intentional, but would you prefer another color? Say, pink, mauve, coral, or blush?
All good here now! :)
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I had a dip dream last night. I think it's from all the stress from medical w/ kids and divorce. I feel extremely lonely, worthless and wondering why my (ex) husband would do the things he has done. Unanswered questions .......... and it will always be just that ....... unanswered. Something I can't dwell on.
My mind wanders. The evil of addiction takes control -telling me- c'mon, .. it'll help you cope. (I encounter this for a few seconds) and then I'm back to reality. Copenhagen will do absolutely NOTHING for me but take me back to Day 1. I believe in this site. I believe I'm strong .... it's just when you need help ......................... you reach out !!
I believe in you ................... will you take my hand?
-mls
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I had a dip dream last night. I think it's from all the stress from medical w/ kids and divorce. I feel extremely lonely, worthless and wondering why my (ex) husband would do the things he has done. Unanswered questions .......... and it will always be just that ....... unanswered. Something I can't dwell on.
My mind wanders. The evil of addiction takes control -telling me- c'mon, .. it'll help you cope. (I encounter this for a few seconds) and then I'm back to reality. Copenhagen will do absolutely NOTHING for me but take me back to Day 1. I believe in this site. I believe I'm strong .... it's just when you need help ......................... you reach out !!
I believe in you ................... will you take my hand?
-mls
Dipping won't stop your ex from being an asshole.
Just sayin'.
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I had a dip dream last night. I think it's from all the stress from medical w/ kids and divorce. I feel extremely lonely, worthless and wondering why my (ex) husband would do the things he has done. Unanswered questions .......... and it will always be just that ....... unanswered. Something I can't dwell on.
My mind wanders. The evil of addiction takes control -telling me- c'mon, .. it'll help you cope. (I encounter this for a few seconds) and then I'm back to reality. Copenhagen will do absolutely NOTHING for me but take me back to Day 1. I believe in this site. I believe I'm strong .... it's just when you need help ......................... you reach out !!
I believe in you ................... will you take my hand?
-mls
Dipping won't stop your ex from being an asshole.
Just sayin'.
umm, very true ..... thanks that made me laugh lol ... much needed
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I had a dip dream last night. I think it's from all the stress from medical w/ kids and divorce. I feel extremely lonely, worthless and wondering why my (ex) husband would do the things he has done. Unanswered questions .......... and it will always be just that ....... unanswered. Something I can't dwell on.
My mind wanders. The evil of addiction takes control -telling me- c'mon, .. it'll help you cope. (I encounter this for a few seconds) and then I'm back to reality. Copenhagen will do absolutely NOTHING for me but take me back to Day 1. I believe in this site. I believe I'm strong .... it's just when you need help ......................... you reach out !!
I believe in you ................... will you take my hand?
-mls
Dipping won't stop your ex from being an asshole.
Just sayin'.
umm, very true ..... thanks that made me laugh lol ... much needed
Keep posting lady... it's therapeutic. We're here for ya.
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I had a dip dream last night. I think it's from all the stress from medical w/ kids and divorce. I feel extremely lonely, worthless and wondering why my (ex) husband would do the things he has done. Unanswered questions .......... and it will always be just that ....... unanswered. Something I can't dwell on.
My mind wanders. The evil of addiction takes control -telling me- c'mon, .. it'll help you cope. (I encounter this for a few seconds) and then I'm back to reality. Copenhagen will do absolutely NOTHING for me but take me back to Day 1. I believe in this site. I believe I'm strong .... it's just when you need help ......................... you reach out !!
I believe in you ................... will you take my hand?
-mls
Dipping won't stop your ex from being an asshole.
Just sayin'.
umm, very true ..... thanks that made me laugh lol ... much needed
Sometimes even when we have the answers they dont help or they are not what we really want.
Keep putting one foot in front of the other and always believe in yourself.
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Quitters:
Anyone wanting to play college football pick 'em, go here for details and sign up on yahoo.
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I think it's important to remember our journey and how we got here.
My first post ever:
Posted 09 January 2007 - 02:41 PM
My username says it all.
mylilsecret .. yep - I kept it hidden! I've kept it hidden so well not even my spouse knew when we got married that I was addicted to Copenhagen.
I started probably as many do, my friend was doing it to rebel. Sure, I went along for the ride. What a wasteful ride that was now when I look back on it. It wasn't long after that, when I turned 16, I started doing it more. I did it in, the only private spot a 16 year old had, the bathroom. Always telling myself, I can quit whenever I want to. Yep .. my lil secret and me.
My high school sweetheart and I got married and before long I was finding it harder and harder to keep a secret. Always excusing myself to be alone, constanting brushing my teeth so I wouldn't be found out. Then came the day - god, I remember it so clearly. The yelling, the disbelief, the mistrust ... you see, I was a woman with an addiction and my husband just found my spit cup.
YOU do what? .. NO, tell me who has been here! I mean it, C'mon ..
I know it was a guy who was here. Haven't we always been honest to one another? Why won't you tell me the truth?
That day I actually had to take a dip in front of him, so he would believe me.
He told me to quit. You are beautiful and no woman does that. It's disgusting! Quit now!
Excuse me? But I would LOVE you NO matter what you did so why CAN'T you love me for the WAY I am? Telling him, I can quit whenever I want to. Yep .. my lil secret and me.
It has gotten me into so many fights with my husband. I do have to say I tried to be respectful. I didn't push it into his face. I always brushed my teeth afterwards. But he just hated it so and maybe a part of him hated me for being so weak. There came a time where I finally got relaxed enough, I would do it around him. He hated it, but lived with it. He would threaten me! I am going to tell your mom. She'll tell you how distusting it is. Finally, I got tired of hearing this and told my mom. Here I was over 30 and telling my mom I dipped Copenhagen. All the times, I rushed from the living room to the bathroom because the doorbell would ring. Not wanting anyone to know ... my lil secret.
After many years, after several times of trying to quit, (sometimes only a few hours and I'd give up) after new year resolutions, and through my husbands heartache, I finally see my lil secret for what it is and I am ashamed of myself and the lack of respect I had for my body and health.
To see me out and about, you probably would have never known, heck you might have past me at some point, or I could be your next door neighbor.. but behind my make-up and hair all done up, behind the nice clothes, behind this woman was a can packin' Copenhagen fanatic. It was a drug. It was MY drug for soo long. And what is sooooo upsetting .. I can at any moment easily access it. Any moment, I could drive to the store and have my drug. That scares me to death.
My husband and I have always watched Intervention and how the family steps in and tries to help the person they love to take control back of their life without their addiction. ( commonly you'd see illegal drug use, alcoholics, eating disorders, etc) One night during the show, I turned to my husband and said I wish someone would do an intervention on me. He said .. You CAN stop at anytime. It's not an addiction. You just don't have the willpower or the need to want to give it up. I tried explaining it to him but if you have never been addicted to something it's hard to show that person what it's like. I cried alot that night.
That was several months ago, I remember thinking if I try to quit again. I want to be more educated. When I saw that the addiction to nicotine is higher than the addiction to crack or heroin, I was astonished. And I knew I needed help.
Sooo .. here I am, asking for help, ideas and suggestions, for motivation, courage and strength and above all peace of mind that I am doing the right thing. It's going to be hard but with support I can accomplish it.
My addiction started with a lil secret at the age of 16, now 20 years later, it's time for me to take control of my life. As of Jan 5th 2007 - 5 WHOLE days, I have been drug-free. My withdraws are bad at times. From headaches to body aches. I feel irritable all the time. I have been chewing gum and sucking on candy.
If anyone has any suggestions I would appreciate it.
I hope as time goes on, it'll get a bit easier.
Because of this website and forum .. my lil secret .. no longer exists.
Thank you for allowing me to share my story.
mylilsecret
-mls
6 1/2 yrs quit
you can do it ............... I did.
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I think it's important to remember our journey and how we got here.
My first post ever:
Posted 09 January 2007 - 02:41 PM
My username says it all.
mylilsecret .. yep - I kept it hidden! I've kept it hidden so well not even my spouse knew when we got married that I was addicted to Copenhagen.
I started probably as many do, my friend was doing it to rebel. Sure, I went along for the ride. What a wasteful ride that was now when I look back on it. It wasn't long after that, when I turned 16, I started doing it more. I did it in, the only private spot a 16 year old had, the bathroom. Always telling myself, I can quit whenever I want to. Yep .. my lil secret and me.
My high school sweetheart and I got married and before long I was finding it harder and harder to keep a secret. Always excusing myself to be alone, constanting brushing my teeth so I wouldn't be found out. Then came the day - god, I remember it so clearly. The yelling, the disbelief, the mistrust ... you see, I was a woman with an addiction and my husband just found my spit cup.
YOU do what? .. NO, tell me who has been here! I mean it, C'mon ..
I know it was a guy who was here. Haven't we always been honest to one another? Why won't you tell me the truth?
That day I actually had to take a dip in front of him, so he would believe me.
He told me to quit. You are beautiful and no woman does that. It's disgusting! Quit now!
Excuse me? But I would LOVE you NO matter what you did so why CAN'T you love me for the WAY I am? Telling him, I can quit whenever I want to. Yep .. my lil secret and me.
It has gotten me into so many fights with my husband. I do have to say I tried to be respectful. I didn't push it into his face. I always brushed my teeth afterwards. But he just hated it so and maybe a part of him hated me for being so weak. There came a time where I finally got relaxed enough, I would do it around him. He hated it, but lived with it. He would threaten me! I am going to tell your mom. She'll tell you how distusting it is. Finally, I got tired of hearing this and told my mom. Here I was over 30 and telling my mom I dipped Copenhagen. All the times, I rushed from the living room to the bathroom because the doorbell would ring. Not wanting anyone to know ... my lil secret.
After many years, after several times of trying to quit, (sometimes only a few hours and I'd give up) after new year resolutions, and through my husbands heartache, I finally see my lil secret for what it is and I am ashamed of myself and the lack of respect I had for my body and health.
To see me out and about, you probably would have never known, heck you might have past me at some point, or I could be your next door neighbor.. but behind my make-up and hair all done up, behind the nice clothes, behind this woman was a can packin' Copenhagen fanatic. It was a drug. It was MY drug for soo long. And what is sooooo upsetting .. I can at any moment easily access it. Any moment, I could drive to the store and have my drug. That scares me to death.
My husband and I have always watched Intervention and how the family steps in and tries to help the person they love to take control back of their life without their addiction. ( commonly you'd see illegal drug use, alcoholics, eating disorders, etc) One night during the show, I turned to my husband and said I wish someone would do an intervention on me. He said .. You CAN stop at anytime. It's not an addiction. You just don't have the willpower or the need to want to give it up. I tried explaining it to him but if you have never been addicted to something it's hard to show that person what it's like. I cried alot that night.
That was several months ago, I remember thinking if I try to quit again. I want to be more educated. When I saw that the addiction to nicotine is higher than the addiction to crack or heroin, I was astonished. And I knew I needed help.
Sooo .. here I am, asking for help, ideas and suggestions, for motivation, courage and strength and above all peace of mind that I am doing the right thing. It's going to be hard but with support I can accomplish it.
My addiction started with a lil secret at the age of 16, now 20 years later, it's time for me to take control of my life. As of Jan 5th 2007 - 5 WHOLE days, I have been drug-free. My withdraws are bad at times. From headaches to body aches. I feel irritable all the time. I have been chewing gum and sucking on candy.
If anyone has any suggestions I would appreciate it.
I hope as time goes on, it'll get a bit easier.
Because of this website and forum .. my lil secret .. no longer exists.
Thank you for allowing me to share my story.
mylilsecret
-mls
6 1/2 yrs quit
you can do it ............... I did.
Please to meet you MLS. I took the liberty of copying today's post into your intorduction thread. There was a lot of really good stuff in there (in all six of them) so I consolidated into one thread. I bumped it up to the top at the same time so I hope some foggy newbies see it, read it all, and are inspired by you and you 6.5 Yr quit.
Thank you.
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Miss ya , Greg! Would love to get a florida meet together in the near future .. whatcha think?
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Miss ya , Greg! Would love to get a florida meet together in the near future .. whatcha think?
Would love to! Will definitely let you know next time I've got a trip planned. We typically head down late January.
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Umm, I really am in need of phone numbers!!!
Thanks
hay nickie i thought i pm'ed you my digits but if i dint let me know. acksully, send me a pm to let me know so i see it afore next week.
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Umm, I really am in need of phone numbers!!!
Thanks
hay nickie i thought i pm'ed you my digits but if i dint let me know. acksully, send me a pm to let me know so i see it afore next week.
Want mine, just pm.
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I've been meaning to write this for months now but it's just taking me some time to actually stop being numb about life and what's happened.
Matthew was dignosed with IgA nephropathy. It's a kidney disease. Basically his body (immune system) attacks his kidney. Killing it off slowly. He has lost right kidney function twice but the Drs. have been able to get it back to working again. He'll have to take anti-rejection drugs and another one. it's actually a blood pressure med but it helps with the enzymes. Weird how one med can help with something totally different. Anyways he has to be seen by his nephrologist three times a year and his urine has to be checked weekly. Thats the only way to know if his kidneys are functioning ... by the color of his urine. I never thought I would see urine black as coffee but thats how it is when your kidney stops working.
As far as me ... well ... I had an accident and hurt my lower back. I had sciatica down my left leg. Extreme pain. Couldn't do anything for three years. Finally was able to have surgery in Apr. 2010. I woke up and had no feeling in my left leg. I couldn't walk. When I did get feeling back, I had to relearn how to use it again. walking, climbing stairs .... everything.
Well during this time I gain about 75 lbs. My husband would talk about my weight but I was trying my best at learning how to walk. As it was with my quit, I had little support with him. While I was in rehab for my back ... he cheated on me. Then he left me and the kids in Feb. 2012 and he came back in a week. Then moved out again. back and forth with I love you ... don't want divorce blah blah blah! During this time I've lost 50 lbs another 25 to go. Yeah me! I'm walking better but I still can't run. I'm on disability. I have a handicap tag. I'm a different person with a different outlook on life.
I think my husband was embarassed of me. .......... I needed support and got none.
This past week I told him that I wanted a divorce. I'm tired of sitting and waiting. I'm lonely. If you knew me you would understand that I'm very affectionate. The thing that gets me is I thought my marriage was fine.
Silly me. Especially for believing in love.
Anyways that's my story .......
and you know what ........... I'm still freakin' quit!
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You got mine and I got your back.
BTW I've been meaning to say this for a while...
Thank You
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I've been meaning to write this for months now but it's just taking me some time to actually stop being numb about life and what's happened.
Matthew was dignosed with IgA nephropathy. It's a kidney disease. Basically his body (immune system) attacks his kidney. Killing it off slowly. He has lost right kidney function twice but the Drs. have been able to get it back to working again. He'll have to take anti-rejection drugs and another one. it's actually a blood pressure med but it helps with the enzymes. Weird how one med can help with something totally different. Anyways he has to be seen by his nephrologist three times a year and his urine has to be checked weekly. Thats the only way to know if his kidneys are functioning ... by the color of his urine. I never thought I would see urine black as coffee but thats how it is when your kidney stops working.
As far as me ... well ... I had an accident and hurt my lower back. I had sciatica down my left leg. Extreme pain. Couldn't do anything for three years. Finally was able to have surgery in Apr. 2010. I woke up and had no feeling in my left leg. I couldn't walk. When I did get feeling back, I had to relearn how to use it again. walking, climbing stairs .... everything.
Well during this time I gain about 75 lbs. My husband would talk about my weight but I was trying my best at learning how to walk. As it was with my quit, I had little support with him. While I was in rehab for my back ... he cheated on me. Then he left me and the kids in Feb. 2012 and he came back in a week. Then moved out again. back and forth with I love you ... don't want divorce blah blah blah! During this time I've lost 50 lbs another 25 to go. Yeah me! I'm walking better but I still can't run. I'm on disability. I have a handicap tag. I'm a different person with a different outlook on life.
I think my husband was embarassed of me. .......... I needed support and got none.
This past week I told him that I wanted a divorce. I'm tired of sitting and waiting. I'm lonely. If you knew me you would understand that I'm very affectionate. The thing that gets me is I thought my marriage was fine.
Silly me. Especially for believing in love.
Anyways that's my story .......
and you know what ........... I'm still freakin' quit!
Well...I don't know you, but I see you have some deep roots here and are quit for over 6 years, so it's obvious you're a bad ass.
Sorry to hear life has been knocking you around of late. Not sure any words of mine will be of any consequence or comfort to you. However I respect the hell out of people who constantly get up off the mat after they get knocked down. Takes a different kind of person to do so. One with intestinal fortitude, drive, determination and a willingness to succeed at LIFE.
Too many people in this world take the easy way out by just throwing their hands up and giving up. The world needs more people like you. Fighters, who in the face of adversity rise to the occasion and aren't afraid to tell their story along the way. It's very inspiring.
Again, I have not crossed paths with you in my only 451 days of quit, but you now have a huge fan. I am pulling for you, but know that you will win regarless.
Thanks for sharing your story and inspiration. It's part of what makes this site truly special.
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Hi everyone,
I reside from Philly, PA.
I am now officially quitting dipping.
I have been dipping for three years and right now I have a very beautiful girlfriend and we're actually talking about a future. I looked at the mirror and I see myself with a lip packed of dips. I am thinking...what am I doing to myself? Why am I dipping?
First off, I started to dip when I was coaching in college football. It was so much stress and a lot of things on my plate and the first time I packed a lip...it was relaxing...soothing...buzzing moment and it made me work better. I started with Skoal...and then later on, I found something stronger and I wanted stronger ones. I got Grizzly...boy, I was buzzing for a while...and then later on I moved to Longhorn which is cheap. Stayed on Longhorn for almost two years....I got to say...I am happy I found this site and I am going to say that hope and faith will remains in me that I will be done..today is my first day of quitting dips and I am very tempted to do it...I need a lot of support from all of you. A lot.
Wish me luck...you guys are a fighter and so will I be.
Thanks
Mike
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You got mine and I got your back.
BTW I've been meaning to say this for a while...
Thank You
Thank you for what, Doc?
Umm, I think I need to thank you and your wife. Just needed to vent.... thanks for helping me do just that.
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I've been meaning to write this for months now but it's just taking me some time to actually stop being numb about life and what's happened.
Matthew was dignosed with IgA nephropathy. It's a kidney disease. Basically his body (immune system) attacks his kidney. Killing it off slowly. He has lost right kidney function twice but the Drs. have been able to get it back to working again. He'll have to take anti-rejection drugs and another one. it's actually a blood pressure med but it helps with the enzymes. Weird how one med can help with something totally different. Anyways he has to be seen by his nephrologist three times a year and his urine has to be checked weekly. Thats the only way to know if his kidneys are functioning ... by the color of his urine. I never thought I would see urine black as coffee but thats how it is when your kidney stops working.
As far as me ... well ... I had an accident and hurt my lower back. I had sciatica down my left leg. Extreme pain. Couldn't do anything for three years. Finally was able to have surgery in Apr. 2010. I woke up and had no feeling in my left leg. I couldn't walk. When I did get feeling back, I had to relearn how to use it again. walking, climbing stairs .... everything.
Well during this time I gain about 75 lbs. My husband would talk about my weight but I was trying my best at learning how to walk. As it was with my quit, I had little support with him. While I was in rehab for my back ... he cheated on me. Then he left me and the kids in Feb. 2012 and he came back in a week. Then moved out again. back and forth with I love you ... don't want divorce blah blah blah! During this time I've lost 50 lbs another 25 to go. Yeah me! I'm walking better but I still can't run. I'm on disability. I have a handicap tag. I'm a different person with a different outlook on life.
I think my husband was embarassed of me. .......... I needed support and got none.
This past week I told him that I wanted a divorce. I'm tired of sitting and waiting. I'm lonely. If you knew me you would understand that I'm very affectionate. The thing that gets me is I thought my marriage was fine.
Silly me. Especially for believing in love.
Anyways that's my story .......
and you know what ........... I'm still freakin' quit!
Well...I don't know you, but I see you have some deep roots here and are quit for over 6 years, so it's obvious you're a bad ass.
Sorry to hear life has been knocking you around of late. Not sure any words of mine will be of any consequence or comfort to you. However I respect the hell out of people who constantly get up off the mat after they get knocked down. Takes a different kind of person to do so. One with intestinal fortitude, drive, determination and a willingness to succeed at LIFE.
Too many people in this world take the easy way out by just throwing their hands up and giving up. The world needs more people like you. Fighters, who in the face of adversity rise to the occasion and aren't afraid to tell their story along the way. It's very inspiring.
Again, I have not crossed paths with you in my only 451 days of quit, but you now have a huge fan. I am pulling for you, but know that you will win regarless.
Thanks for sharing your story and inspiration. It's part of what makes this site truly special.
Yes .. this site is special
It saved my life and thats why its successful.
Just remember ....
one day at a time.
And thanks for your encouraging words.
-mls
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Hi everyone,
I reside from Philly, PA.
I am now officially quitting dipping.
I have been dipping for three years and right now I have a very beautiful girlfriend and we're actually talking about a future. I looked at the mirror and I see myself with a lip packed of dips. I am thinking...what am I doing to myself? Why am I dipping?
First off, I started to dip when I was coaching in college football. It was so much stress and a lot of things on my plate and the first time I packed a lip...it was relaxing...soothing...buzzing moment and it made me work better. I started with Skoal...and then later on, I found something stronger and I wanted stronger ones. I got Grizzly...boy, I was buzzing for a while...and then later on I moved to Longhorn which is cheap. Stayed on Longhorn for almost two years....I got to say...I am happy I found this site and I am going to say that hope and faith will remains in me that I will be done..today is my first day of quitting dips and I am very tempted to do it...I need a lot of support from all of you. A lot.
Wish me luck...you guys are a fighter and so will I be.
Thanks
Mike
We are here for you.
Its hard for me to type on my nook ... forgive me.
Today is the first step and a huge one. Congrats!
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Nothing but :wub: for the Bigwhitebeast. 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup'
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Nothing but :wub: for the Bigwhitebeast. 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup'
Who is he?
MOA
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Nothing but :wub: for the Bigwhitebeast. 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup'
'hit it'
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Nothing but :wub: for the Bigwhitebeast. 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup'
'hit it'
'12'
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Nothing but :wub: for the Bigwhitebeast. 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup'
'hit it'
'12'
LittleBlackBeast (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qP-tyvBGla4&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DqP-tyvBGla4)
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Nothing but :wub: for the Bigwhitebeast. 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup'
'hit it'
'12'
LittleBlackBeast (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qP-tyvBGla4&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DqP-tyvBGla4)
TIFFS 'crackup' 'crackup'
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Nothing but :wub: for the Bigwhitebeast. 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup'
'hit it'
'12'
LittleBlackBeast (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qP-tyvBGla4&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DqP-tyvBGla4)
TIFFS 'crackup' 'crackup'
LMAO 2!! Nice touch! 'crackup' 'crackup'
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Greg, ..... This is for you to give to your wife.
Happy Anniversary! I would've posted it yesterday but I couldn't find it.
I owe you so much, quit brother! I owe you my freedom!
With much gratitude and love,
Nickie
I Promise This
My eyes fell on such a wonderful sight
as I watched you fall asleep last night.
Not my first time to watch you lying there;
so delicate and beautiful without a single care.
The softness of your hair around my fingers.
The sweetness of lovemaking as it still lingers.
All of which bring me to an intoxicating state.
Our love for one another, it must of been fate.
At that moment I leaned in with a kiss
whispering so softly ........... to you, I promise you this.
If there are bad times, I promise to see you through.
If there are good times, I promise to bring 'em to you.
If ever you need me, I promise to always be there.
If ever you should falter, I promise not to despair.
Because I'll love you, my sweet .. til death do us part
even beyond then you'll still have my heart.
You make me a better person in everything that you do.
And no man could love a woman as much as I love you.
© 2008 Nicole Lynch
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Greg, ..... This is for you to give to your wife.
Happy Anniversary! I would've posted it yesterday but I couldn't find it.
I owe you so much, quit brother! I owe you my freedom!
With much gratitude and love,
Nickie
I Promise This
My eyes fell on such a wonderful sight
as I watched you fall asleep last night.
Not my first time to watch you lying there;
so delicate and beautiful without a single care.
The softness of your hair around my fingers.
The sweetness of lovemaking as it still lingers.
All of which bring me to an intoxicating state.
Our love for one another, it must of been fate.
At that moment I leaned in with a kiss
whispering so softly ........... to you, I promise you this.
If there are bad times, I promise to see you through.
If there are good times, I promise to bring 'em to you.
If ever you need me, I promise to always be there.
If ever you should falter, I promise not to despair.
Because I'll love you, my sweet .. til death do us part
even beyond then you'll still have my heart.
You make me a better person in everything that you do.
And no man could love a woman as much as I love you.
© 2008 Nicole Lynch
Very nice Nickie...
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Greg, ..... This is for you to give to your wife.
Happy Anniversary! I would've posted it yesterday but I couldn't find it.
I owe you so much, quit brother! I owe you my freedom!
With much gratitude and love,
Nickie
I Promise This
My eyes fell on such a wonderful sight
as I watched you fall asleep last night.
Not my first time to watch you lying there;
so delicate and beautiful without a single care.
The softness of your hair around my fingers.
The sweetness of lovemaking as it still lingers.
All of which bring me to an intoxicating state.
Our love for one another, it must of been fate.
At that moment I leaned in with a kiss
whispering so softly ........... to you, I promise you this.
If there are bad times, I promise to see you through.
If there are good times, I promise to bring 'em to you.
If ever you need me, I promise to always be there.
If ever you should falter, I promise not to despair.
Because I'll love you, my sweet .. til death do us part
even beyond then you'll still have my heart.
You make me a better person in everything that you do.
And no man could love a woman as much as I love you.
© 2008 Nicole Lynch
Very nice Nickie...
Rem!!!!!!
Thanks suga .... glad you liked
I've missed you! (hugs)
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Nothing but :wub: for the Bigwhitebeast. 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup'
'hit it'
'12'
LittleBlackBeast (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qP-tyvBGla4&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DqP-tyvBGla4)
TIFFS 'crackup' 'crackup'
LMAO 2!! Nice touch! 'crackup' 'crackup'
Roam,
Out of curiosity, what color is your rig?
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Nothing but :wub: for the Bigwhitebeast. 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup'
'hit it'
'12'
LittleBlackBeast (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qP-tyvBGla4&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DqP-tyvBGla4)
TIFFS 'crackup' 'crackup'
LMAO 2!! Nice touch! 'crackup' 'crackup'
Roam,
Out of curiosity, what color is your rig?
It's salmon colored. Go figure.
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Quick question, is using nicotine gum a good idea? I don't want to get hooked on it
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Quick question, is using nicotine gum a good idea? I don't want to get hooked on it
On a phone so I'll be brief.
No, it's a terrible idea. Would you use Jim Beam to solve your Jack Daniels addiction?
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Quick question, is using nicotine gum a good idea? I don't want to get hooked on it
On a phone so I'll be brief.
No, it's a terrible idea. Would you use Jim Beam to solve your Jack Daniels addiction?
Its kinda like playing russian roulette with all the bullets
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Quick question, is using nicotine gum a good idea? I don't want to get hooked on it
On a phone so I'll be brief.
No, it's a terrible idea. Would you use Jim Beam to solve your Jack Daniels addiction?
Its kinda like playing russian roulette with all the bullets
Alright. Any suggestions with aids? Or should I just man up and deal with it?
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Quick question, is using nicotine gum a good idea? I don't want to get hooked on it
On a phone so I'll be brief.
No, it's a terrible idea. Would you use Jim Beam to solve your Jack Daniels addiction?
Its kinda like playing russian roulette with all the bullets
Alright. Any suggestions with aids? Or should I just man up and deal with it?
Just quit...seriously you have to make the decision for YOU. I dipped for nearly 15 years and "tried to quit" several times - including using patches, gum, etc. Guess what, it never worked.
Finally, I got on this website to "plan" my quit (I didn't have any intentions of quitting that day). After reading some a few posts it finally just clicked with me - that I was a complete slave to nicotine...that I was an addict and it was completely running (and ruining) my life. The stories I read helped me realize that I was a slave BUT that I had the power to break free and regain control of my life.
That was 50 days ago (7/14). I won't lie and say it's been a walk in the park but I have used the tools on this website and I make the commitment each and every day to not dip...and I'll do that for the rest of my life. Make the commitment right now to break those chains and start the first day of the rest of your life! If I can do it, anyone can!
Blake
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Quick question, is using nicotine gum a good idea? I don't want to get hooked on it
On a phone so I'll be brief.
No, it's a terrible idea. Would you use Jim Beam to solve your Jack Daniels addiction?
Its kinda like playing russian roulette with all the bullets
Alright. Any suggestions with aids? Or should I just man up and deal with it?
Just quit...seriously you have to make the decision for YOU. I dipped for nearly 15 years and "tried to quit" several times - including using patches, gum, etc. Guess what, it never worked.
Finally, I got on this website to "plan" my quit (I didn't have any intentions of quitting that day). After reading some a few posts it finally just clicked with me - that I was a complete slave to nicotine...that I was an addict and it was completely running (and ruining) my life. The stories I read helped me realize that I was a slave BUT that I had the power to break free and regain control of my life.
That was 50 days ago (7/14). I won't lie and say it's been a walk in the park but I have used the tools on this website and I make the commitment each and every day to not dip...and I'll do that for the rest of my life. Make the commitment right now to break those chains and start the first day of the rest of your life! If I can do it, anyone can!
Blake
The oral fixation side of my quit was more difficult to deal with then the mind games. The good news is they're very manageable with Trident, sunflower seeds or even atomic fireballs. There are some reviews and coupons for fake dip HERE. (http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/smokeless-alternatives/) Most folks will say you should use whatever helps you keep the poison out of your yap and has no nicotine. Her grasp will lessen with time. Whatever gets you through the day, gents. Get some.
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Nothing but :wub: for the Bigwhitebeast. 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup'
'hit it'
'12'
LittleBlackBeast (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qP-tyvBGla4&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DqP-tyvBGla4)
TIFFS 'crackup' 'crackup'
LMAO 2!! Nice touch! 'crackup' 'crackup'
Roam,
Out of curiosity, what color is your rig?
It's salmon colored. Go figure.
The world is salmon colored in evil's eyes ;) White and blue wedgy
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Quick question, is using nicotine gum a good idea? I don't want to get hooked on it
On a phone so I'll be brief.
No, it's a terrible idea. Would you use Jim Beam to solve your Jack Daniels addiction?
Its kinda like playing russian roulette with all the bullets
Alright. Any suggestions with aids? Or should I just man up and deal with it?
Just quit...seriously you have to make the decision for YOU. I dipped for nearly 15 years and "tried to quit" several times - including using patches, gum, etc. Guess what, it never worked.
Finally, I got on this website to "plan" my quit (I didn't have any intentions of quitting that day). After reading some a few posts it finally just clicked with me - that I was a complete slave to nicotine...that I was an addict and it was completely running (and ruining) my life. The stories I read helped me realize that I was a slave BUT that I had the power to break free and regain control of my life.
That was 50 days ago (7/14). I won't lie and say it's been a walk in the park but I have used the tools on this website and I make the commitment each and every day to not dip...and I'll do that for the rest of my life. Make the commitment right now to break those chains and start the first day of the rest of your life! If I can do it, anyone can!
Blake
The oral fixation side of my quit was more difficult to deal with then the mind games. The good news is they're very manageable with Trident, sunflower seeds or even atomic fireballs. There are some reviews and coupons for fake dip HERE. (http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/smokeless-alternatives/) Most folks will say you should use whatever helps you keep the poison out of your yap and has no nicotine. Her grasp will lessen with time. Whatever gets you through the day, gents. Get some.
Gotta leave the important stuff up top, no nic cold ass turkey is the way to go! It sucks. But it does get better. Chew fake, seeds, gum or whatever doesnt contain nicotene to get you through.
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Quick question, is using nicotine gum a good idea? I don't want to get hooked on it
On a phone so I'll be brief.
No, it's a terrible idea. Would you use Jim Beam to solve your Jack Daniels addiction?
Its kinda like playing russian roulette with all the bullets
Alright. Any suggestions with aids? Or should I just man up and deal with it?
Just quit...seriously you have to make the decision for YOU. I dipped for nearly 15 years and "tried to quit" several times - including using patches, gum, etc. Guess what, it never worked.
Finally, I got on this website to "plan" my quit (I didn't have any intentions of quitting that day). After reading some a few posts it finally just clicked with me - that I was a complete slave to nicotine...that I was an addict and it was completely running (and ruining) my life. The stories I read helped me realize that I was a slave BUT that I had the power to break free and regain control of my life.
That was 50 days ago (7/14). I won't lie and say it's been a walk in the park but I have used the tools on this website and I make the commitment each and every day to not dip...and I'll do that for the rest of my life. Make the commitment right now to break those chains and start the first day of the rest of your life! If I can do it, anyone can!
Blake
The oral fixation side of my quit was more difficult to deal with then the mind games. The good news is they're very manageable with Trident, sunflower seeds or even atomic fireballs. There are some reviews and coupons for fake dip HERE. (http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/smokeless-alternatives/) Most folks will say you should use whatever helps you keep the poison out of your yap and has no nicotine. Her grasp will lessen with time. Whatever gets you through the day, gents. Get some.
Gotta leave the important stuff up top, no nic cold ass turkey is the way to go! It sucks. But it does get better. Chew fake, seeds, gum or whatever doesnt contain nicotene to get you through.
To repeat Redyota, nicotine gum is like an alcoholic changing from Jack Daniels to Jim Beam. Different taste, but the same drug.
You don't get hooked on the gum, you are hooked on the drug.
I've known people who used that crap for years because they could never stop.
If you want off the nicotine, you must stop completely.
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Quick question, is using nicotine gum a good idea? I don't want to get hooked on it
On a phone so I'll be brief.
No, it's a terrible idea. Would you use Jim Beam to solve your Jack Daniels addiction?
Its kinda like playing russian roulette with all the bullets
Alright. Any suggestions with aids? Or should I just man up and deal with it?
Just quit...seriously you have to make the decision for YOU. I dipped for nearly 15 years and "tried to quit" several times - including using patches, gum, etc. Guess what, it never worked.
Finally, I got on this website to "plan" my quit (I didn't have any intentions of quitting that day). After reading some a few posts it finally just clicked with me - that I was a complete slave to nicotine...that I was an addict and it was completely running (and ruining) my life. The stories I read helped me realize that I was a slave BUT that I had the power to break free and regain control of my life.
That was 50 days ago (7/14). I won't lie and say it's been a walk in the park but I have used the tools on this website and I make the commitment each and every day to not dip...and I'll do that for the rest of my life. Make the commitment right now to break those chains and start the first day of the rest of your life! If I can do it, anyone can!
Blake
The oral fixation side of my quit was more difficult to deal with then the mind games. The good news is they're very manageable with Trident, sunflower seeds or even atomic fireballs. There are some reviews and coupons for fake dip HERE. (http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/smokeless-alternatives/) Most folks will say you should use whatever helps you keep the poison out of your yap and has no nicotine. Her grasp will lessen with time. Whatever gets you through the day, gents. Get some.
Gotta leave the important stuff up top, no nic cold ass turkey is the way to go! It sucks. But it does get better. Chew fake, seeds, gum or whatever doesnt contain nicotene to get you through.
To repeat Redyota, nicotine gum is like an alcoholic changing from Jack Daniels to Jim Beam. Different taste, but the same drug.
You don't get hooked on the gum, you are hooked on the drug.
I've known people who used that crap for years because they could never stop.
If you want off the nicotine, you must stop completely.
I'm not sure how you are about fruit. I got the frozen bag with strawberries, blueberries, etc. And i sucked on that. But after you retrain your brain you won't need that oral fixation.
Hope it helps ... let me know if you need anything.
Above all ... trust in yourself and your quit.
-mls
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Quick question, is using nicotine gum a good idea? I don't want to get hooked on it
On a phone so I'll be brief.
No, it's a terrible idea. Would you use Jim Beam to solve your Jack Daniels addiction?
Its kinda like playing russian roulette with all the bullets
Alright. Any suggestions with aids? Or should I just man up and deal with it?
Just quit...seriously you have to make the decision for YOU. I dipped for nearly 15 years and "tried to quit" several times - including using patches, gum, etc. Guess what, it never worked.
Finally, I got on this website to "plan" my quit (I didn't have any intentions of quitting that day). After reading some a few posts it finally just clicked with me - that I was a complete slave to nicotine...that I was an addict and it was completely running (and ruining) my life. The stories I read helped me realize that I was a slave BUT that I had the power to break free and regain control of my life.
That was 50 days ago (7/14). I won't lie and say it's been a walk in the park but I have used the tools on this website and I make the commitment each and every day to not dip...and I'll do that for the rest of my life. Make the commitment right now to break those chains and start the first day of the rest of your life! If I can do it, anyone can!
Blake
The oral fixation side of my quit was more difficult to deal with then the mind games. The good news is they're very manageable with Trident, sunflower seeds or even atomic fireballs. There are some reviews and coupons for fake dip HERE. (http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/smokeless-alternatives/) Most folks will say you should use whatever helps you keep the poison out of your yap and has no nicotine. Her grasp will lessen with time. Whatever gets you through the day, gents. Get some.
Gotta leave the important stuff up top, no nic cold ass turkey is the way to go! It sucks. But it does get better. Chew fake, seeds, gum or whatever doesnt contain nicotene to get you through.
To repeat Redyota, nicotine gum is like an alcoholic changing from Jack Daniels to Jim Beam. Different taste, but the same drug.
You don't get hooked on the gum, you are hooked on the drug.
I've known people who used that crap for years because they could never stop.
If you want off the nicotine, you must stop completely.
I'm not sure how you are about fruit. I got the frozen bag with strawberries, blueberries, etc. And i sucked on that. But after you retrain your brain you won't need that oral fixation.
Hope it helps ... let me know if you need anything.
Above all ... trust in yourself and your quit.
-mls
I find (especially this time of the year) pitted fruits such as peaches or cherries are great as (1) they are a healthier option, and (2) the pits fit perfectly into that pocket of your lip.
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Can someone explain the tribute to the Big White Beast?
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Can someone explain the tribute to the Big White Beast?
me too. I dont get it. My guess is that it is some inside joke from live chat or something. Judging from the pic someone thinks their POS 4 cyl is a "big white beast"???
MOA
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Can someone explain the tribute to the Big White Beast?
me too. I dont get it. My guess is that it is some inside joke from live chat or something. Judging from the pic someone thinks their POS 4 cyl is a "big white beast"???
MOA
I was wondering the same thing.
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Can someone explain the tribute to the Big White Beast?
me too. I dont get it. My guess is that it is some inside joke from live chat or something. Judging from the pic someone thinks their POS 4 cyl is a "big white beast"???
MOA
I was wondering the same thing.
Yep... it's an inside joke. One that I'm on the outside of too.
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Quick question, is using nicotine gum a good idea? I don't want to get hooked on it
On a phone so I'll be brief.
No, it's a terrible idea. Would you use Jim Beam to solve your Jack Daniels addiction?
Its kinda like playing russian roulette with all the bullets
Alright. Any suggestions with aids? Or should I just man up and deal with it?
Just quit...seriously you have to make the decision for YOU. I dipped for nearly 15 years and "tried to quit" several times - including using patches, gum, etc. Guess what, it never worked.
Finally, I got on this website to "plan" my quit (I didn't have any intentions of quitting that day). After reading some a few posts it finally just clicked with me - that I was a complete slave to nicotine...that I was an addict and it was completely running (and ruining) my life. The stories I read helped me realize that I was a slave BUT that I had the power to break free and regain control of my life.
That was 50 days ago (7/14). I won't lie and say it's been a walk in the park but I have used the tools on this website and I make the commitment each and every day to not dip...and I'll do that for the rest of my life. Make the commitment right now to break those chains and start the first day of the rest of your life! If I can do it, anyone can!
Blake
The oral fixation side of my quit was more difficult to deal with then the mind games. The good news is they're very manageable with Trident, sunflower seeds or even atomic fireballs. There are some reviews and coupons for fake dip HERE. (http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/smokeless-alternatives/) Most folks will say you should use whatever helps you keep the poison out of your yap and has no nicotine. Her grasp will lessen with time. Whatever gets you through the day, gents. Get some.
Gotta leave the important stuff up top, no nic cold ass turkey is the way to go! It sucks. But it does get better. Chew fake, seeds, gum or whatever doesnt contain nicotene to get you through.
To repeat Redyota, nicotine gum is like an alcoholic changing from Jack Daniels to Jim Beam. Different taste, but the same drug.
You don't get hooked on the gum, you are hooked on the drug.
I've known people who used that crap for years because they could never stop.
If you want off the nicotine, you must stop completely.
I'm not sure how you are about fruit. I got the frozen bag with strawberries, blueberries, etc. And i sucked on that. But after you retrain your brain you won't need that oral fixation.
Hope it helps ... let me know if you need anything.
Above all ... trust in yourself and your quit.
-mls
I find (especially this time of the year) pitted fruits such as peaches or cherries are great as (1) they are a healthier option, and (2) the pits fit perfectly into that pocket of your lip.
Just to chime in on this...
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/04/ciga ... e-quitter/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/04/cigars-and-the-quitter/)
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Can someone explain the tribute to the Big White Beast?
me too. I dont get it. My guess is that it is some inside joke from live chat or something. Judging from the pic someone thinks their POS 4 cyl is a "big white beast"???
MOA
I was wondering the same thing.
Ok. It started out as a joke when watching me myself and irene last week when I noticed casper without his glasses looked a lot like BWB. I texted this to some quitters and the jokes were rolling. I designed the banner as a joke and of course had to mock the avatar since we often tease about driving a fiesta. I asked chews to post it even though I was sure he wouldn't, but what can I say. Hes an awesome guy!
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Can someone explain the tribute to the Big White Beast?
me too. I dont get it. My guess is that it is some inside joke from live chat or something. Judging from the pic someone thinks their POS 4 cyl is a "big white beast"???
MOA
I was wondering the same thing.
Ok. It started out as a joke when watching me myself and irene last week when I noticed casper without his glasses looked a lot like BWB. I texted this to some quitters and the jokes were rolling. I designed the banner as a joke and of course had to mock the avatar since we often tease about driving a fiesta. I asked chews to post it even though I was sure he wouldn't, but what can I say. Hes an awesome guy!
BTW, if ANY quitter has a theme or idea that they would like to see up top. Please feel free to pm me. I would be happy to oblidge.
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Is Tobacco Free Smokeless Chew (Fake Dip) Gluten Free?
http://www.killthecan.org/is-tobacco-fr ... uten-free/ (http://www.killthecan.org/is-tobacco-free-smokeless-chew-fake-dip-gluten-free/)
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Quick question, is using nicotine gum a good idea? I don't want to get hooked on it
On a phone so I'll be brief.
No, it's a terrible idea. Would you use Jim Beam to solve your Jack Daniels addiction?
Its kinda like playing russian roulette with all the bullets
Alright. Any suggestions with aids? Or should I just man up and deal with it?
Just quit...seriously you have to make the decision for YOU. I dipped for nearly 15 years and "tried to quit" several times - including using patches, gum, etc. Guess what, it never worked.
Finally, I got on this website to "plan" my quit (I didn't have any intentions of quitting that day). After reading some a few posts it finally just clicked with me - that I was a complete slave to nicotine...that I was an addict and it was completely running (and ruining) my life. The stories I read helped me realize that I was a slave BUT that I had the power to break free and regain control of my life.
That was 50 days ago (7/14). I won't lie and say it's been a walk in the park but I have used the tools on this website and I make the commitment each and every day to not dip...and I'll do that for the rest of my life. Make the commitment right now to break those chains and start the first day of the rest of your life! If I can do it, anyone can!
Blake
The oral fixation side of my quit was more difficult to deal with then the mind games. The good news is they're very manageable with Trident, sunflower seeds or even atomic fireballs. There are some reviews and coupons for fake dip HERE. (http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/smokeless-alternatives/) Most folks will say you should use whatever helps you keep the poison out of your yap and has no nicotine. Her grasp will lessen with time. Whatever gets you through the day, gents. Get some.
Gotta leave the important stuff up top, no nic cold ass turkey is the way to go! It sucks. But it does get better. Chew fake, seeds, gum or whatever doesnt contain nicotene to get you through.
To repeat Redyota, nicotine gum is like an alcoholic changing from Jack Daniels to Jim Beam. Different taste, but the same drug.
You don't get hooked on the gum, you are hooked on the drug.
I've known people who used that crap for years because they could never stop.
If you want off the nicotine, you must stop completely.
I'm not sure how you are about fruit. I got the frozen bag with strawberries, blueberries, etc. And i sucked on that. But after you retrain your brain you won't need that oral fixation.
Hope it helps ... let me know if you need anything.
Above all ... trust in yourself and your quit.
-mls
I find (especially this time of the year) pitted fruits such as peaches or cherries are great as (1) they are a healthier option, and (2) the pits fit perfectly into that pocket of your lip.
Just to chime in on this...
http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/04/ciga ... e-quitter/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/04/cigars-and-the-quitter/)
Good article Chewie. One of my climbing buddies keeps telling me he's giving up cigarettes...using the patch.
And of course, the reason he keeps telling me he's "giving" up cigarettes, instead of "has given up and stayed clean from cigarettes" is twofold...
First, he thinks he's addicted to cigarettes, when we all know he's addicted to nicotine, and cigarettes are just the delivery system.
And second, he thinks that A DIFFERENT DELIVERY SYSTEM FOR NICOTINE is going to free him from nicotine. Shit, the patch delivers nicotine CONSTANTLY...even cigarettes don't manage that.
Of course, you and I never rationalized anything THAT stupid...right?
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New Blog Post: Now THESE Are Some Warning Labels – Way To Go Mexico!!!
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/09/now- ... go-mexico/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/09/now-these-are-some-warning-labels-way-to-go-mexico/)
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New Blog Post: Now THESE Are Some Warning Labels – Way To Go Mexico!!!
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/09/now- ... go-mexico/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/09/now-these-are-some-warning-labels-way-to-go-mexico/)
Good reporting as always.
I wish that the US went through with the graphic warnings (http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/19/health/fda-graphic-tobacco-warnings) that would have been on each pack of smokes, but they changed their minds. I guess there is too much tax money to be collected to really make a stand on their consumption.
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I woke up one morning probably 2 months ago and my breath smelled like something had died in my mouth. I knew it was the dip. I looked at my teeth in the mirror. Yellow and gums receding kinda. Decided on the spot to quit. Unlike
Most I didn't want to have a quit date or even think about tobacco at all. I just wanted to he away from it so I didn't tell anyone and just stopped. I'm 22. Started when I was 19 in the Marine Corps and dipped religiously throughout my period of service due to constantly being stressed out on a day to day basis and everyone in my platoon did it so it was a bonding method almost. Idk why I'm here but it helps telling people my story so I will stay off the death dirt for good. Thank you, have a good day and Semper Fi Marines.
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My last dip was two days ago after the better part of 10 years I've been slowly killing myself and making someone rich. It all started after I joined the Army and I thought to myself "I lived through the Battle of Ramadi" in Iraq why destroy myself? Hopefully after tomorrow (day 3) it will be the start of a better life.
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I woke up one morning probably 2 months ago and my breath smelled like something had died in my mouth. I knew it was the dip. I looked at my teeth in the mirror. Yellow and gums receding kinda. Decided on the spot to quit. Unlike
Most I didn't want to have a quit date or even think about tobacco at all. I just wanted to he away from it so I didn't tell anyone and just stopped. I'm 22. Started when I was 19 in the Marine Corps and dipped religiously throughout my period of service due to constantly being stressed out on a day to day basis and everyone in my platoon did it so it was a bonding method almost. Idk why I'm here but it helps telling people my story so I will stay off the death dirt for good. Thank you, have a good day and Semper Fi Marines.
Welcome on the greatest decision ever, quitting. You arenÂ’t here by accident so stay for a while and see what we do here at KTC. Simply, we Quit. One day at a time. I make a promise to these people each day to remain quit and not to use nicotine in any way, shape, or form today. Only today. If I am fortunate enough to wake up tomorrow I will make that same promise again. I donÂ’t need to think about quitting forever, just today. If I make and honor that promise today and repeat it every tomorrow, the forever will work itself out I guess.
I was a ninja dipper (hid it from everyone and never got caught in 16 years) and I tried quitting as a ninja. But, quitting isnÂ’t easy and my home life took a nose dive quickly. Quitters here suggested I come clean to the wife. I did. She was pissed. She got over it and now knows that KTC is a part of me and these fine people, the ones that help to save my life every day, and also a part of me.
You also mentioned that you don’t want to think about tobacco. I am the opposite and think most of these people on KTC are the same. We recognize that we are addicts, addicted to nicotine, the most addictive substance on the planet. Being quit is “active”. It takes effort 24/7, and part of the effort is remembering that I was a slave to nicotine for 16 years. I chose it over family, friends, savings, love, time, and even life. I don’t want to forget those years because if I start to be inactive, or complacent, in my Quit, then I will start to have bad thoughts like “I can have one. I deserve it. One won’t hurt”. I bet that you have tried quitting before, but ended up only stopping for a short time. If I am correct, why? Did you think, “I can have one. I deserve it. One won’t hurt”?
So, how do we remain “active”? We post roll. We add our name to a list each day. That small effort is a huge promise to me, my group, and everyone here on KTC that I will remain clean today. I have kept my word, that promise, for 330 straight days. I have every intention of making it 331 tomorrow should I wake. Why is that promise, Posting Roll, a really small task, so important? Because I got involved here and I know a lot of these people on a very personal level. They know things about me that my wife doesn’t know. It is a bond, a brotherhood, and a level of accountability like I have never experienced. If my name is on Roll they know (have learned over time that my word is gold) that I will remain quit. They know that if my name isn’t on Roll that they better start calling or texting because something is wrong (hopefully just running late or something like that). Accountability goes both ways. I look out for guys that are closest to me and expect to see their promise each day. If their name isn’t on Roll I’ll start texting or calling.
Sorry about the diarrhea of the keyboard. I didnÂ’t mean to ramble. In closing I ask you to click on the salmon colored Welcome Center link on the top left. Read it all, itÂ’s not much. Pay close attention to my favorite parts:
Post Roll: Why (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=120)? How (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50)?
Then I expect to see your name on the Pre HOF-December 2013 Roll.
Welcome aboard.
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My last dip was two days ago after the better part of 10 years I've been slowly killing myself and making someone rich. It all started after I joined the Army and I thought to myself "I lived through the Battle of Ramadi" in Iraq why destroy myself? Hopefully after tomorrow (day 3) it will be the start of a better life.
Welcome and thank you for your service. Next, you are right, it does get better, a lot better but right now you need to dig in for the fight. We can help in many ways but you need to get invovled with us. How?
Post Roll: Why (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=120)? How (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50)?
Every day you log into your “Group”, a bunch of guys all quitting together and going through the same suck, fog, cravings, etc. You “Post Roll”; add your name and the number of days quit that you are. This is your promise, a pledge to your quit brothers and sisters, to yourself, and to everyone else here on KTC to not use nicotine in any way, shape, or form, for the next 24 hours. Keep your promise. A man is nothing if his word is no good.
Get Involved:
Read: Introductions (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=25) and HOF Speeches (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=90). Read the banter in other groups. Read the non-dip discussions in the Wilcard (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=11) section when you want to get away from thoughts of dip. By doing this you will realize that you are not alone in the feeling you are having. You will gain strength through others. And, you will get to know these people on a personal level, which adds accountability.
Send out a few PMs:
Send out a PM to someone in your group, or to someone that posted something that you related to. Offer your phone number. I bet you will get a phone number in return. Store those numbers in your phone and USE THEM in a moment of weakness. Sending a text out has prevented me from caving more than a few times. Sometimes I didn’t even need a response, just taking a few seconds to text was all it took to get me thinking straight again. Other times the response I got was, “you do NOT have permission to cave”, which I took to heart.
Every tool you need to QUIT and remain QUIT is here, for free, but you have to want it. No one can quit for you, but we can offer support whenever you need it.
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So my cheap ass finally bought my HOF coin. Since I'm also within 4 days of 200, I added the 200 day milestone chip to the order.
Feels great to be getting some veteran status... next up.... 300! ODAAT-NAFAR!
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So my cheap ass finally bought my HOF coin. Since I'm also within 4 days of 200, I added the 200 day milestone chip to the order.
Feels great to be getting some veteran status... next up.... 300! ODAAT-NAFAR!
Boo ya... congrats! (your order is in the mail :) )
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This has absolutely nothing to do with dip.
But it's fucking brilliant and needs to be seen... by everyone.
http://youtu.be/jofNR_WkoCE (http://youtu.be/jofNR_WkoCE)
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This has absolutely nothing to do with dip.
But it's fucking brilliant and needs to be seen... by everyone.
http://youtu.be/jofNR_WkoCE (http://youtu.be/jofNR_WkoCE)
This is what happens when you mix the green and red pills.
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This has absolutely nothing to do with dip.
But it's fucking brilliant and needs to be seen... by everyone.
http://youtu.be/jofNR_WkoCE (http://youtu.be/jofNR_WkoCE)
This is what happens when you mix the green and red pills.
I had to watch it twice.
'crackup'
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This has absolutely nothing to do with dip.
But it's fucking brilliant and needs to be seen... by everyone.
http://youtu.be/jofNR_WkoCE (http://youtu.be/jofNR_WkoCE)
This is what happens when you mix the green and red pills.
I had to watch it twice.
'crackup'
So what sound does a giraffe make?
(Cheater once you look it up, and one of those questions that can drive you crazy until you find out the answer.)
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Have a great weekend bitches.
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Have a great weekend bitches.
Thank you sir, I'll try not to over do it while waving as walking away......
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This has absolutely nothing to do with dip.
But it's fucking brilliant and needs to be seen... by everyone.
http://youtu.be/jofNR_WkoCE (http://youtu.be/jofNR_WkoCE)
This is what happens when you mix the green and red pills.
I had to watch it twice.
'crackup'
So what sound does a giraffe make?
(Cheater once you look it up, and one of those questions that can drive you crazy until you find out the answer.)
I. Don't. Get. It.
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This has absolutely nothing to do with dip.
But it's fucking brilliant and needs to be seen... by everyone.
http://youtu.be/jofNR_WkoCE (http://youtu.be/jofNR_WkoCE)
This is what happens when you mix the green and red pills.
I had to watch it twice.
'crackup'
So what sound does a giraffe make?
(Cheater once you look it up, and one of those questions that can drive you crazy until you find out the answer.)
I. Don't. Get. It.
Don't take the brown acid......... :blink:
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This has absolutely nothing to do with dip.
But it's fucking brilliant and needs to be seen... by everyone.
http://youtu.be/jofNR_WkoCE (http://youtu.be/jofNR_WkoCE)
This is what happens when you mix the green and red pills.
I had to watch it twice.
'crackup'
So what sound does a giraffe make?
(Cheater once you look it up, and one of those questions that can drive you crazy until you find out the answer.)
I. Don't. Get. It.
Don't take the brown acid......... :blink:
Mind. Blown.
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This has absolutely nothing to do with dip.
But it's fucking brilliant and needs to be seen... by everyone.
http://youtu.be/jofNR_WkoCE (http://youtu.be/jofNR_WkoCE)
This is what happens when you mix the green and red pills.
I had to watch it twice.
'crackup'
So what sound does a giraffe make?
(Cheater once you look it up, and one of those questions that can drive you crazy until you find out the answer.)
I. Don't. Get. It.
Don't take the brown acid......... :blink:
Mind. Blown.
:blink:
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This has absolutely nothing to do with dip.
But it's fucking brilliant and needs to be seen... by everyone.
http://youtu.be/jofNR_WkoCE (http://youtu.be/jofNR_WkoCE)
This is what happens when you mix the green and red pills.
I had to watch it twice.
'crackup'
So what sound does a giraffe make?
(Cheater once you look it up, and one of those questions that can drive you crazy until you find out the answer.)
I. Don't. Get. It.
Don't take the brown acid......... :blink:
Mind. Blown.
:blink:
Thats one of the best videos ever only second to this one.... Possibly NSFW (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea3RAkGqYC8&feature=youtu.be)
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This has absolutely nothing to do with dip.
But it's fucking brilliant and needs to be seen... by everyone.
http://youtu.be/jofNR_WkoCE (http://youtu.be/jofNR_WkoCE)
This is what happens when you mix the green and red pills.
I had to watch it twice.
'crackup'
So what sound does a giraffe make?
(Cheater once you look it up, and one of those questions that can drive you crazy until you find out the answer.)
I. Don't. Get. It.
Don't take the brown acid......... :blink:
Mind. Blown.
:blink:
Thats one of the best videos ever only second to this one.... Possibly NSFW (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea3RAkGqYC8&feature=youtu.be)
Yeah. (http://youtu.be/KgIwcXGtKgI)
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This has absolutely nothing to do with dip.
But it's fucking brilliant and needs to be seen... by everyone.
http://youtu.be/jofNR_WkoCE (http://youtu.be/jofNR_WkoCE)
This is what happens when you mix the green and red pills.
I had to watch it twice.
'crackup'
So what sound does a giraffe make?
(Cheater once you look it up, and one of those questions that can drive you crazy until you find out the answer.)
I. Don't. Get. It.
Don't take the brown acid......... :blink:
Mind. Blown.
:blink:
Thats one of the best videos ever only second to this one.... Possibly NSFW (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea3RAkGqYC8&feature=youtu.be)
Yeah. (http://youtu.be/KgIwcXGtKgI)
WOW....Just WOW. Next up, what the sheep say? 'chief'
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This has absolutely nothing to do with dip.
But it's fucking brilliant and needs to be seen... by everyone.
http://youtu.be/jofNR_WkoCE (http://youtu.be/jofNR_WkoCE)
This is what happens when you mix the green and red pills.
I had to watch it twice.
'crackup'
So what sound does a giraffe make?
(Cheater once you look it up, and one of those questions that can drive you crazy until you find out the answer.)
I. Don't. Get. It.
Don't take the brown acid......... :blink:
Mind. Blown.
:blink:
Thats one of the best videos ever only second to this one.... Possibly NSFW (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea3RAkGqYC8&feature=youtu.be)
Yeah. (http://youtu.be/KgIwcXGtKgI)
WOW....Just WOW. Next up, what the sheep say? 'chief'
This is whats next. (http://www.dafk.net/what/)
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This has absolutely nothing to do with dip.
But it's fucking brilliant and needs to be seen... by everyone.
http://youtu.be/jofNR_WkoCE (http://youtu.be/jofNR_WkoCE)
This is what happens when you mix the green and red pills.
I had to watch it twice.
'crackup'
So what sound does a giraffe make?
(Cheater once you look it up, and one of those questions that can drive you crazy until you find out the answer.)
I. Don't. Get. It.
Don't take the brown acid......... :blink:
Mind. Blown.
:blink:
Thats one of the best videos ever only second to this one.... Possibly NSFW (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea3RAkGqYC8&feature=youtu.be)
Yeah. (http://youtu.be/KgIwcXGtKgI)
WOW....Just WOW. Next up, what the sheep say? 'chief'
This is whats next. (http://www.dafk.net/what/)
I need to get out more...
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This has absolutely nothing to do with dip.
But it's fucking brilliant and needs to be seen... by everyone.
http://youtu.be/jofNR_WkoCE (http://youtu.be/jofNR_WkoCE)
This is what happens when you mix the green and red pills.
I had to watch it twice.
'crackup'
So what sound does a giraffe make?
(Cheater once you look it up, and one of those questions that can drive you crazy until you find out the answer.)
I. Don't. Get. It.
Don't take the brown acid......... :blink:
Mind. Blown.
:blink:
Thats one of the best videos ever only second to this one.... Possibly NSFW (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea3RAkGqYC8&feature=youtu.be)
Yeah. (http://youtu.be/KgIwcXGtKgI)
WOW....Just WOW. Next up, what the sheep say? 'chief'
This is whats next. (http://www.dafk.net/what/)
I need to get out more...
Damn you Moof 'tease' lol
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Day 61 here and to be honest since last week this has been really hard. Really having cravings in the evening that won't go away. Im fighting through this.
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Day 61 here and to be honest since last week this has been really hard. Really having cravings in the evening that won't go away. Im fighting through this.
61 days and 11 posts, try getting involved with your group. Are you on a Group? We post everyday our promise to quit in our group. I would imagine you would be in October 2013 group. Check it out.
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Day 61 here and to be honest since last week this has been really hard. Really having cravings in the evening that won't go away. Im fighting through this.
61 days and 11 posts, try getting involved with your group. Are you on a Group? We post everyday our promise to quit in our group. I would imagine you would be in October 2013 group. Check it out.
Problem is where I work out in the sticks there is no phone service and no internet. Im gone for weeks at a time and the only link to the outside world is a satellite phone.
Im doing well though, I still have my tough days here and there but its getting less frequent. Wish I could be more involved but that is just not possible due to work.
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Day 61 here and to be honest since last week this has been really hard. Really having cravings in the evening that won't go away. Im fighting through this.
61 days and 11 posts, try getting involved with your group. Are you on a Group? We post everyday our promise to quit in our group. I would imagine you would be in October 2013 group. Check it out.
Problem is where I work out in the sticks there is no phone service and no internet. Im gone for weeks at a time and the only link to the outside world is a satellite phone.
Im doing well though, I still have my tough days here and there but its getting less frequent. Wish I could be more involved but that is just not possible due to work.
Well that explains it, pm me if you ever need anything.
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Matthew And His Hall Of Fame Coin Visit Dallas / Forth Worth
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New Blog Post: Custom KillTheCan.org Jersey - Now Taking Pre-Orders!
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/09/cust ... re-orders/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/09/custom-killthecan-org-jersey-now-taking-pre-orders/)
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New Blog Post: Custom KillTheCan.org Jersey - Now Taking Pre-Orders!
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/09/cust ... re-orders/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/09/custom-killthecan-org-jersey-now-taking-pre-orders/)
Ordered mine just now! Will be Bad Ass at the next hockey game!!
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Have an Epic, Quit weekend...bitches.
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Have an Epic, Quit weekend...bitches.
You too.
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Have an Epic, Quit weekend...bitches.
You too.
I think I'd prefer quiet to epic . . . .
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Have an Epic, Quit weekend...bitches.
You too.
I think I'd prefer quiet to epic . . . .
An epically quiet weekend...
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Have an Epic, Quit weekend...bitches.
You too.
I think I'd prefer quiet to epic . . . .
An epically quiet weekend...
You have no idea how awesome that sounds to the dad of two year old twin girls. I love them more than anything, but a peacefully quiet day would be the definition of epic.
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Have an Epic, Quit weekend...bitches.
You too.
I think I'd prefer quiet to epic . . . .
An epically quiet weekend...
You have no idea how awesome that sounds to the dad of two year old twin girls. I love them more than anything, but a peacefully quiet day would be the definition of epic.
Benadryl
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Does smokeless tobacco cause anxiety issues like social anxiety? Has any dipper experienced symptoms of anxiety while actively addicted and using the garbage?
I'm not asking about anxiety after quitting. I'm talking about your last five or so years as an active dipper.
Symptoms like: Racing heart, dizziness, spacey feeling, can't concentrate, room closing on, balance issues, hand tremors, etc.
Is it possible the product has gotten stronger and has more chemicals in it than what it did when you and I started over 20 years ago?
Thoughts? Feedback? Experiences?
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Have an Epic, Quit weekend...bitches.
You too.
I think I'd prefer quiet to epic . . . .
An epically quiet weekend...
You have no idea how awesome that sounds to the dad of two year old twin girls. I love them more than anything, but a peacefully quiet day would be the definition of epic.
Benadryl
Benadryl is magic! I used it more than once!
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Gotta quit... Mouth hurts, feel like crap.... Ive tried a thousand times... I just can't get it together...
I'm kinda confused on how to start here any help would be appreciated...
Mike
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Gotta quit... Mouth hurts, feel like crap.... Ive tried a thousand times... I just can't get it together...
I'm kinda confused on how to start here any help would be appreciated...
Mike
Welcome, Mike.
First, congratulations on the best decision you ever made.
Next, you can do this. If I can, you can.
You are about to get slammed with support from a ton of strangers who only have one goal - to help keep you Quit.
You are going to be part of the badasses in December 2013. I suggest you read the WELCOME CENTER in the upper left of the screen. That's a great place to start.
Finally, you need to read. A lot. Everything on here is worth looking at. This site is THE place to be if you want to Quit, and it is filled with Quit knowledge.
Welcome again brother. You need anything, PM me, and I'll do what I can to help.
-Nolaq
Day 1,283
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Gotta quit... Mouth hurts, feel like crap.... Ive tried a thousand times... I just can't get it together...
I'm kinda confused on how to start here any help would be appreciated...
Mike
Welcome, Mike.
First, congratulations on the best decision you ever made.
Next, you can do this. If I can, you can.
You are about to get slammed with support from a ton of strangers who only have one goal - to help keep you Quit.
You are going to be part of the badasses in December 2013. I suggest you read the WELCOME CENTER in the upper left of the screen. That's a great place to start.
Finally, you need to read. A lot. Everything on here is worth looking at. This site is THE place to be if you want to Quit, and it is filled with Quit knowledge.
Welcome again brother. You need anything, PM me, and I'll do what I can to help.
-Nolaq
Day 1,283
^^^This guy speaks the truth. You can a nd will do this. It will be more fun than a sack full of shaved cats dipped in water. Throw out all of your shit. Cans, spitters, and secret safety stashes.
Head on over to Dec 13 post roll (your promise that you will NOT use nic in any form today, put your hard hat on and try not to lick the windows.
Razd -1464 Continuous days of kicking the nic bitch to the curb.
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Gotta quit... Mouth hurts, feel like crap.... Ive tried a thousand times... I just can't get it together...
I'm kinda confused on how to start here any help would be appreciated...
Mike
Welcome, Mike.
First, congratulations on the best decision you ever made.
Next, you can do this. If I can, you can.
You are about to get slammed with support from a ton of strangers who only have one goal - to help keep you Quit.
You are going to be part of the badasses in December 2013. I suggest you read the WELCOME CENTER in the upper left of the screen. That's a great place to start.
Finally, you need to read. A lot. Everything on here is worth looking at. This site is THE place to be if you want to Quit, and it is filled with Quit knowledge.
Welcome again brother. You need anything, PM me, and I'll do what I can to help.
-Nolaq
Day 1,283
^^^This guy speaks the truth. You can a nd will do this. It will be more fun than a sack full of shaved cats dipped in water. Throw out all of your shit. Cans, spitters, and secret safety stashes.
Head on over to Dec 13 post roll (your promise that you will NOT use nic in any form today, put your hard hat on and try not to lick the windows.
Razd -1464 Continuous days of kicking the nic bitch to the curb.
And another key element around here. Need to and want to are two different things. You must want to quit to actually succeed.
x2 on the previous notes.
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Mike-you will look back on the hard work and feel so good and healthy and when you earn enough days the nic bitch will be no threat. Please do not look into the horizon but join December. Kick one days ass at a time. I will be there to support you. You can do it. You will never feel better about yourself.
Rcneedham 130 days-Still an addict but winning easily everyday.
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First post, not sure if this is the right place, but...
I'm 73 days quit today. 73 days quit after 29 years of dipping. Two cans a day, every day for at least the last 5 years.
Quitting hasn't been easy, it hasn't been the most pleasant experience of my life, but it has been one of the most rewarding. To have my life back after all this time...
To those of you out there contemplating quitting. Please do it. Don't be like me and give up almost 29 years to addiction. Get your life back now. Today.
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First post, not sure if this is the right place, but...
I'm 73 days quit today. 73 days quit after 29 years of dipping. Two cans a day, every day for at least the last 5 years.
Quitting hasn't been easy, it hasn't been the most pleasant experience of my life, but it has been one of the most rewarding. To have my life back after all this time...
To those of you out there contemplating quitting. Please do it. Don't be like me and give up almost 29 years to addiction. Get your life back now. Today.
Hey Tis, Welcome! Your in the right church but the wrong pew. Your 73 days quit brings you into the October '13 quit group. Which is found here. (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=8419)These are the folks that had the gumption to quit about the same time as you and will help you stay quit. We make a promise every day to each other and ourselves to not use nicotine in any form. You're welcome to post whatever you'd like where ever you'd like but Oct'13 is where you post your promise. Check out the intro section too... Tell us a bit more about your journey but get to know the ducks, it could save your life.
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I am 132 days quit and I am so f-ing annoyed by my strong craves that come periodically. I am an addict and I understand my role in this freedom. Just sucks occasionally though.
-rcneedham 132
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Not sure if this is the right section. But today is my 2nd day 1 in 10 days of quitting. Got a bag of seeds and and a couple packs of trident. Wish me luck!
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Not sure if this is the right section. But today is my 2nd day 1 in 10 days of quitting. Got a bag of seeds and and a couple packs of trident. Wish me luck!
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I am 132 days quit and I am so f-ing annoyed by my strong craves that come periodically. I am an addict and I understand my role in this freedom. Just sucks occasionally though.
-rcneedham 132
it sucks for sure.... the good thing is your craves will become less and less intense and further and further apart as you move forward in your quit.
keep fighting!
chewie
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Not sure if this is the right section. But today is my 2nd day 1 in 10 days of quitting. Got a bag of seeds and and a couple packs of trident. Wish me luck!
welcome aboard! though no "luck" necessary... it has nothing to due with a successful quit.
you're in the right place to get things done... you're a part of the biggest (and best) smokeless support forum on the web.
head over to December 2013 index.php?showtopic=8706 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=8706), introduce yourself and post roll.
welcome aboard!
chewie
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Hi my name is joe and it's been 4 whole days without a chew. I've been chewing a can of Copenhagen a day for the last 12 years. I really enjoyed chewing as it helps the most boring tasks seem better. I don't even really want to quit but I know it's the right thing to do. I am tired however of being a slave to the can, working my days around my next dip. Also the bad the breath, recededing gum line, and sores and white spots in an around the gums. Not to mention it's socially unattractive.
The first 3 days were bad but not horrible. I was in a fog most of the time and couldn't concentrate on a damn thing. I feel like I have ADHD. The cravings came and went just tried not to think about it. Writing this post I feel like I can't think straight. It's the end of day 4 and the cravings and irritableness are really intense. 'bang head' I am so mad I feel like my blood is boiling. I'm pissed off just writing this. I tried quitting in the past many times with no luck , I just finally want to not feel like this anymore. My teeth are feeling really sensitive I think it's because of the PH balance thing.
Wish me luck I'm gonna need it
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Hi my name is joe and it's been 4 whole days without a chew. I've been chewing a can of Copenhagen a day for the last 12 years. I really enjoyed chewing as it helps the most boring tasks seem better. I don't even really want to quit but I know it's the right thing to do. I am tired however of being a slave to the can, working my days around my next dip. Also the bad the breath, recededing gum line, and sores and white spots in an around the gums. Not to mention it's socially unattractive.
The first 3 days were bad but not horrible. I was in a fog most of the time and couldn't concentrate on a damn thing. I feel like I have ADHD. The cravings came and went just tried not to think about it. Writing this post I feel like I can't think straight. It's the end of day 4 and the cravings and irritableness are really intense. 'bang head' I am so mad I feel like my blood is boiling. I'm pissed off just writing this. I tried quitting in the past many times with no luck , I just finally want to not feel like this anymore. My teeth are feeling really sensitive I think it's because of the PH balance thing.
Wish me luck I'm gonna need it
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Hi my name is joe and it's been 4 whole days without a chew. I've been chewing a can of Copenhagen a day for the last 12 years. I really enjoyed chewing as it helps the most boring tasks seem better. I don't even really want to quit but I know it's the right thing to do. I am tired however of being a slave to the can, working my days around my next dip. Also the bad the breath, recededing gum line, and sores and white spots in an around the gums. Not to mention it's socially unattractive.
The first 3 days were bad but not horrible. I was in a fog most of the time and couldn't concentrate on a damn thing. I feel like I have ADHD. The cravings came and went just tried not to think about it. Writing this post I feel like I can't think straight. It's the end of day 4 and the cravings and irritableness are really intense. 'bang head' I am so mad I feel like my blood is boiling. I'm pissed off just writing this. I tried quitting in the past many times with no luck , I just finally want to not feel like this anymore. My teeth are feeling really sensitive I think it's because of the PH balance thing.
Wish me luck I'm gonna need it
You can't quit if you don't want to. Want and Need and very different.
Quitting is a fight every minute, of every hour, of every day. If there is even a small part of you that truly "enjoyed chewing", as you say, then you will fail.
Do some soul searching. Make a list of reasons to continue chewing, and reasons to quit. To date, no one has given a valid reason to continue. Not one. Reasons like "it helps me relax", and as you said, "it helps the most boring tasks seem better" are all smoke and mirrors. Rationalizing to continue use and to put it up on some false alter is addict speak.
Nicotine is the drug. I am a nicotine addict. I couldn't think of a single reason to continue, but many to stop being a slave. I have chosen to be nicotine free for 347 straight days. I'm still an addict. I still think about dip daily. But, since quitting, I actively fight to remain quit each day and that has only been possible with KTC and the people that make it a community. I HATE nicotine and the drug companies that push it. I hate what it did to me. I hate who I was while using it for 16 years.
Start reading the Welcome Center. Know what you are getting into.
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Hi my name is joe and it's been 4 whole days without a chew. I've been chewing a can of Copenhagen a day for the last 12 years. I really enjoyed chewing as it helps the most boring tasks seem better. I don't even really want to quit but I know it's the right thing to do. I am tired however of being a slave to the can, working my days around my next dip. Also the bad the breath, recededing gum line, and sores and white spots in an around the gums. Not to mention it's socially unattractive.
The first 3 days were bad but not horrible. I was in a fog most of the time and couldn't concentrate on a damn thing. I feel like I have ADHD. The cravings came and went just tried not to think about it. Writing this post I feel like I can't think straight. It's the end of day 4 and the cravings and irritableness are really intense. 'bang head' I am so mad I feel like my blood is boiling. I'm pissed off just writing this. I tried quitting in the past many times with no luck , I just finally want to not feel like this anymore. My teeth are feeling really sensitive I think it's because of the PH balance thing.
Wish me luck I'm gonna need it
My teeth are uber sensitive I thought it was all the sugars and salts from all the Snacks been eating. I'm brand new to the site as well. Hang in there bro. I know I don't even feel like I "want" to quit but that's the nicotine talking.
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Thanks guys your right. I will not let the tobacco companies suck me in anymore. It's just crazy how strong chew really is. It's day 5 let's go do this.
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Thanks guys your right. I will not let the tobacco companies suck me in anymore. It's just crazy how strong chew really is. It's day 5 let's go do this.
Quit pussyfootin' around KTC. We have given you advice and you seem to agree with us, but your name still hasn't made it on December 2013 Roll Call (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=8706&st=0)! 'bang head'
Posting roll is the back bone of quitting around here. Get your name on there and your promise to not use nicotine today and then I'll take you seriously.
Read about Posting Roll: Why (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=120)? How (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50)?
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Thanks guys your right. I will not let the tobacco companies suck me in anymore. It's just crazy how strong chew really is. It's day 5 let's go do this.
Quit pussyfootin' around KTC. We have given you advice and you seem to agree with us, but your name still hasn't made it on December 2013 Roll Call (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=8706&st=0)! 'bang head'
Posting roll is the back bone of quitting around here. Get your name on there and your promise to not use nicotine today and then I'll take you seriously.
Read about Posting Roll: Why (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=120)? How (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50)?
Hey guys,,,,,,,tomorrow will be my quit day.....actually tonight at midnight.....I am going to quit cold turkey. I have tried to use several things but always failed. I have been dipping for over 30 years and know it time to get it done. Gonna need all the help I can get......thanks in advance....
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Gotta quit... Mouth hurts, feel like crap.... Ive tried a thousand times... I just can't get it together...
I'm kinda confused on how to start here any help would be appreciated...
Mike
Welcome, Mike.
First, congratulations on the best decision you ever made.
Next, you can do this. If I can, you can.
You are about to get slammed with support from a ton of strangers who only have one goal - to help keep you Quit.
You are going to be part of the badasses in December 2013. I suggest you read the WELCOME CENTER in the upper left of the screen. That's a great place to start.
Finally, you need to read. A lot. Everything on here is worth looking at. This site is THE place to be if you want to Quit, and it is filled with Quit knowledge.
Welcome again brother. You need anything, PM me, and I'll do what I can to help.
-Nolaq
Day 1,283
^^^This guy speaks the truth. You can a nd will do this. It will be more fun than a sack full of shaved cats dipped in water. Throw out all of your shit. Cans, spitters, and secret safety stashes.
Head on over to Dec 13 post roll (your promise that you will NOT use nic in any form today, put your hard hat on and try not to lick the windows.
Razd -1464 Continuous days of kicking the nic bitch to the curb.
And another key element around here. Need to and want to are two different things. You must want to quit to actually succeed.
x2 on the previous notes.
I have tried many times and this is the first time I have asked for help from fellow former dippers. I have taken my last dip.....my qiut day is in two hours and I just threw my can out the window.......I will need all the help I can get......
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I have tried many times and this is the first time I have asked for help from fellow former dippers. I have taken my last dip.....my qiut day is in two hours and I just threw my can out the window.......I will need all the help I can get......
If you say you are quit and threw your stuff out, then you are quit NOW. NOW is your day 1. Congrats.
Why wait? Planned quits are stupid.
Read the Welcome Center and get your name on the Decmber 2013 Roll Call. That is your new home.
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Does smokeless tobacco cause anxiety issues like social anxiety? Has any dipper experienced symptoms of anxiety while actively addicted and using the garbage?
I'm not asking about anxiety after quitting. I'm talking about your last five or so years as an active dipper.
Symptoms like: Racing heart, dizziness, spacey feeling, can't concentrate, room closing on, balance issues, hand tremors, etc.
Is it possible the product has gotten stronger and has more chemicals in it than what it did when you and I started over 20 years ago?
Thoughts? Feedback? Experiences?
Yes.
I got to the point that I could not get enough, but even a small amount would create the symptoms you describe. I believe the term is "toxic".
If you have reached this point, I would think it is a very good idea not to use nicotine anymore. I don't know what is on the other side but I am sure it ends in a trip to the hospital and possibly the morgue.
Symptoms of nicotine overdose. (http://www.wisegeek.com/what-are-the-symptoms-of-nicotine-overdose.htm)
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Kevin James here and day 56 is half way over since it's 11:30 here! I have body aches again since I awoke, as well as just a shitty feeling! My quit is going great, my family loves me, and life is wonderful. My question is: after 56 days are these feelings normal? Do I just expect this, anxiety, and crappy days from now on? Is the 100 day (for the most part) mark the turn to more of the great days? Thanks in advance!
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Kevin James here and day 56 is half way over since it's 11:30 here! I have body aches again since I awoke, as well as just a shitty feeling! My quit is going great, my family loves me, and life is wonderful. My question is: after 56 days are these feelings normal? Do I just expect this, anxiety, and crappy days from now on? Is the 100 day (for the most part) mark the turn to more of the great days? Thanks in advance!
56 days and 9 posts. I take it you aren't posting roll. You have probably entered a funk. It will pass.
Try posting with November 13 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=8568), they are all about the same time as you and will be experiencing similar reactions.
The concept of this site is peer support. Join in and use it, it does work.
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Kevin James here and day 56 is half way over since it's 11:30 here! I have body aches again since I awoke, as well as just a shitty feeling! My quit is going great, my family loves me, and life is wonderful. My question is: after 56 days are these feelings normal? Do I just expect this, anxiety, and crappy days from now on? Is the 100 day (for the most part) mark the turn to more of the great days? Thanks in advance!
56 days and 9 posts. I take it you aren't posting roll. You have probably entered a funk. It will pass.
Try posting with November 13 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=8568), they are all about the same time as you and will be experiencing similar reactions.
The concept of this site is peer support. Join in and use it, it does work.
I just found this site Friday and started posting then and so far I have gotten a lot of great messages. I just wanted some info on what I am feeling now. Thanks
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Kevin James here and day 56 is half way over since it's 11:30 here! I have body aches again since I awoke, as well as just a shitty feeling! My quit is going great, my family loves me, and life is wonderful. My question is: after 56 days are these feelings normal? Do I just expect this, anxiety, and crappy days from now on? Is the 100 day (for the most part) mark the turn to more of the great days? Thanks in advance!
56 days and 9 posts. I take it you aren't posting roll. You have probably entered a funk. It will pass.
Try posting with November 13 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=8568), they are all about the same time as you and will be experiencing similar reactions.
The concept of this site is peer support. Join in and use it, it does work.
I just found this site Friday and started posting then and so far I have gotten a lot of great messages. I just wanted some info on what I am feeling now. Thanks
This is the place for answers. A great deal of information is in the Welcome Center (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13). It really helped me when I first quit.
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As of this second, we're approximately 20 members away from number 20,000. Wow!
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Im at day 3 today and couldnt sleep for jack shit last night. However I have felt no cravings thus far today and just feel overall free. This is the longest of ever went without the nic whore and without the help from everyone on this website I wouldnt not have gotten even this far. Thank you everyone for your help
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Im at day 3 today and couldnt sleep for jack shit last night. However I have felt no cravings thus far today and just feel overall free. This is the longest of ever went without the nic whore and without the help from everyone on this website I wouldnt not have gotten even this far. Thank you everyone for your help
Slap that in your intro, Casey. That's what it's for. Update it from time to time with your experiences, so you can look back on it. It will get lost here.
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New Blog Post: Ode To Day 73 - This Quit Is All About Me
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/09/ode- ... -about-me/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/09/ode-to-day-73-this-quit-is-all-about-me/)
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Turns out there's method to our madness:
Title: Quitting smoking using health issue-specific Social Networking Sites (SNSs): What influences participation, social identification, and smoking cessation self-efficacy?
Author:Joe Phua
Year: 2013
Publication: Journal of Smoking Cessation
DOI: 10.1017/jsc.2013.18
URL: http://dx.doi.org/10.1017/jsc.2013.18 (http://dx.doi.org/10.1017/jsc.2013.18)
Abstract:
Introduction: This study examined members of health issue-specific social networking sites (SNSs) for smoking cessation, applying Social Identity Theory (SIT). Aims: The aim of the study was to test the relationships between perceived verbal, affective, cognitive and physical intimacy on the sites, participation level, social identification and smoking cessation self-efficacy.
Methods: An online questionnaire (N = 252) assessed members of SNSs for smoking cessation. Confirmatory factor analysis (CFA), structural equation modelling (SEM), mediation analysis, MANOVA and ANOVA tests were used to test the hypotheses.
Results/Findings: Verbal, affective, cognitive and physical intimacy significantly predicted participation; participation significantly predicted social identification and smoking cessation self-efficacy; and social identification mediated between participation and smoking cessation self-efficacy. Active participants and lurkers differed significantly on perceived verbal, affective, cognitive and physical intimacy, social identification, and smoking cessation self-efficacy.
Conclusions: Health issue-specific SNSs for smoking cessation have a positive impact on members' smoking cessation self-efficacy. Higher perceived intimacy facilitates participation online, which in turn influences smoking cessation self-efficacy, with social identification mediating this relationship.
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Don't forget to order your custom KTC Jersey before 10/1!!!
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/09/cust ... re-orders/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/09/custom-killthecan-org-jersey-now-taking-pre-orders/)
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Turns out there's method to our madness:
Title: Quitting smoking using health issue-specific Social Networking Sites (SNSs): What influences participation, social identification, and smoking cessation self-efficacy?
Author:Joe Phua
Year: 2013
Publication: Journal of Smoking Cessation
DOI: 10.1017/jsc.2013.18
URL: http://dx.doi.org/10.1017/jsc.2013.18 (http://dx.doi.org/10.1017/jsc.2013.18)
Abstract:
Introduction: This study examined members of health issue-specific social networking sites (SNSs) for smoking cessation, applying Social Identity Theory (SIT). Aims: The aim of the study was to test the relationships between perceived verbal, affective, cognitive and physical intimacy on the sites, participation level, social identification and smoking cessation self-efficacy.
Methods: An online questionnaire (N = 252) assessed members of SNSs for smoking cessation. Confirmatory factor analysis (CFA), structural equation modelling (SEM), mediation analysis, MANOVA and ANOVA tests were used to test the hypotheses.
Results/Findings: Verbal, affective, cognitive and physical intimacy significantly predicted participation; participation significantly predicted social identification and smoking cessation self-efficacy; and social identification mediated between participation and smoking cessation self-efficacy. Active participants and lurkers differed significantly on perceived verbal, affective, cognitive and physical intimacy, social identification, and smoking cessation self-efficacy.
Conclusions: Health issue-specific SNSs for smoking cessation have a positive impact on members' smoking cessation self-efficacy. Higher perceived intimacy facilitates participation online, which in turn influences smoking cessation self-efficacy, with social identification mediating this relationship.
I think in Layman's terms
Join the Site
Follow the rule for posting daily
Interact with the people within and outside of your quit groups to go from strangers to having a real friendship with them, send them e-mails, texts, give them a phone call from time to time.
and by doing this you will have a higher chance of being and staying quit.
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Day 84 here and this week has been the toughest in awhile. Morning after coffee I have craves but in the evening after supper its the worst. Was having 1-3 drinks in the evening but I had to stop that. It seems like I have to be addicted to something since I no longer have dip. Hope this passes soon cause Im sick of the craves. I will be going back to school in January and its hard to think with the nic bitch in my head.
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Day 84 here and this week has been the toughest in awhile. Morning after coffee I have craves but in the evening after supper its the worst. Was having 1-3 drinks in the evening but I had to stop that. It seems like I have to be addicted to something since I no longer have dip. Hope this passes soon cause Im sick of the craves. I will be going back to school in January and its hard to think with the nic bitch in my head.
Awesome on 84 man! I am at 65 days and I went from feeling awesome and everything was great to feeling like shit again, and having anxiety. This NIC bitch is some bad shit to still be f'ing with us this far into the quit. I hope all goes well with you and I hope to soon be at that 84 day mark and I'll be informed on what I might expect then too. Stay strong man!!
Kevin James
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Awesome on 84 man! I am at 65 days and I went from feeling awesome and everything was great to feeling like shit again, and having anxiety. This NIC bitch is some bad shit to still be f'ing with us this far into the quit. I hope all goes well with you and I hope to soon be at that 84 day mark and I'll be informed on what I might expect then too. Stay strong man!!
Kevin James [/QUOTE]
Will do brother. Ive gained 15lbs so far and lost 5lbs of it. Been eating better and running again. Stay away from the drink, I made the mistake of going from never drinking to drinking till buzzed every night. I guess Im trying to find something, anything, to fill the addiction I had to dip for the last 12yrs. The nic bitch sucks but gum and mints seem to help in the evenings.
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What happened to the discussion pages for the quit groups?
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Turns out there's method to our madness:
Title: Quitting smoking using health issue-specific Social Networking Sites (SNSs): What influences participation, social identification, and smoking cessation self-efficacy?
Author:Joe Phua
Year: 2013
Publication: Journal of Smoking Cessation
DOI: 10.1017/jsc.2013.18
URL: http://dx.doi.org/10.1017/jsc.2013.18 (http://dx.doi.org/10.1017/jsc.2013.18)
Abstract:
Introduction: This study examined members of health issue-specific social networking sites (SNSs) for smoking cessation, applying Social Identity Theory (SIT). Aims: The aim of the study was to test the relationships between perceived verbal, affective, cognitive and physical intimacy on the sites, participation level, social identification and smoking cessation self-efficacy.
Methods: An online questionnaire (N = 252) assessed members of SNSs for smoking cessation. Confirmatory factor analysis (CFA), structural equation modelling (SEM), mediation analysis, MANOVA and ANOVA tests were used to test the hypotheses.
Results/Findings: Verbal, affective, cognitive and physical intimacy significantly predicted participation; participation significantly predicted social identification and smoking cessation self-efficacy; and social identification mediated between participation and smoking cessation self-efficacy. Active participants and lurkers differed significantly on perceived verbal, affective, cognitive and physical intimacy, social identification, and smoking cessation self-efficacy.
Conclusions: Health issue-specific SNSs for smoking cessation have a positive impact on members' smoking cessation self-efficacy. Higher perceived intimacy facilitates participation online, which in turn influences smoking cessation self-efficacy, with social identification mediating this relationship.
This is great. I was just inquiring about the level of involvement on this site and the likelihood of success the other day. I was wondering if KTC kept numbers for themselves. This is basically an answer to what I was asking about. Cool stuff.
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As of this second, we're approximately 20 members away from number 20,000. Wow!
I've been telling everyone I know that chews about this site. Growing our numbers and helping more lost sheep find their way home.
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newbie here. my 2nd day
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What happened to the discussion pages for the quit groups?
That was an experiment for the December 2013 HOF class - an experiment that we decided to not continue. The December discussion thread has been merged back into the December 2013 thread. Feel free to talk amongst your group or here in the General forum.
Thanks,
chewie
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As of this second, we're approximately 20 members away from number 20,000. Wow!
I've been telling everyone I know that chews about this site. Growing our numbers and helping more lost sheep find their way home.
We're actually getting close to 17,000...
But I LOVE the fact that you're out and about pimping the site... awesome job man! The more the merrier... it's what makes us the best on the web!!!
chewie
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As of this second, we're approximately 20 members away from number 20,000. Wow!
I've been telling everyone I know that chews about this site. Growing our numbers and helping more lost sheep find their way home.
We're actually getting close to 17,000...
But I LOVE the fact that you're out and about pimping the site... awesome job man! The more the merrier... it's what makes us the best on the web!!!
chewie
I like to give out KTC business cards.
Here's a template you can use to print your own.
http://www.killthecan.org/how-can-you-help/ (http://www.killthecan.org/how-can-you-help/)
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New Blog Post: It Turns Out Maybe ThereÂ’s A Method To Our Madness
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/10/it-t ... r-madness/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/10/it-turns-out-maybe-theres-a-method-to-our-madness/)
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Hello
Just a quick question.
I am currently a dipper, plan on quitting soon.
However just wanted to ask around here if any current/ex dippers experience skin redness under your mouth in the area where you hold your dip?
I've been dealing with what a dermatologist diagnosed me with as "perioral dermatitis" which is basically a rash around the mouth. It's not even really a rash just a persistant redness on my skin where I hold my dip (I switch sides all the time)
However I think it's really something to do with the pressure of holding a dip inside your mouth causing the redness on the outside of it. I dip a lot, unfortunately.
I've been looking at various pictures of dippers on dipper groups on facebook and notice 9 out of 10 of them have some sort of acne/redness around of their mouths. I see it in a lot of wintergreen/flavored dippers, not so much with Natural dips- like Cope LC
Anyone on here ever experience such a thing?
Thanks in advance
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Hello
Just a quick question.
I am currently a dipper, plan on quitting soon.
However just wanted to ask around here if any current/ex dippers experience skin redness under your mouth in the area where you hold your dip?
I've been dealing with what a dermatologist diagnosed me with as "perioral dermatitis" which is basically a rash around the mouth. It's not even really a rash just a persistant redness on my skin where I hold my dip (I switch sides all the time)
However I think it's really something to do with the pressure of holding a dip inside your mouth causing the redness on the outside of it. I dip a lot, unfortunately.
I've been looking at various pictures of dippers on dipper groups on facebook and notice 9 out of 10 of them have some sort of acne/redness around of their mouths. I see it in a lot of wintergreen/flavored dippers, not so much with Natural dips- like Cope LC
Anyone on here ever experience such a thing?
Thanks in advance
I would follow my personal intuition on it and quit stuffing poison in my mouth.
Join us now, why wait? Don't prolong your suffering by cutting down, it usually doesn't work.
I won't lie to you, you are looking at a trip through some serious fog, and unsettling time. But we have all been through it and we can help you get through it.
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Hello
Just a quick question.
I am currently a dipper, plan on quitting soon.
However just wanted to ask around here if any current/ex dippers experience skin redness under your mouth in the area where you hold your dip?
I've been dealing with what a dermatologist diagnosed me with as "perioral dermatitis" which is basically a rash around the mouth. It's not even really a rash just a persistant redness on my skin where I hold my dip (I switch sides all the time)
However I think it's really something to do with the pressure of holding a dip inside your mouth causing the redness on the outside of it. I dip a lot, unfortunately.
I've been looking at various pictures of dippers on dipper groups on facebook and notice 9 out of 10 of them have some sort of acne/redness around of their mouths. I see it in a lot of wintergreen/flavored dippers, not so much with Natural dips- like Cope LC
Anyone on here ever experience such a thing?
Thanks in advance
I would follow my personal intuition on it and quit stuffing poison in my mouth.
Join us now, why wait? Don't prolong your suffering by cutting down, it usually doesn't work.
I won't lie to you, you are looking at a trip through some serious fog, and unsettling time. But we have all been through it and we can help you get through it.
Don't be stupid! After the red rash you'll probably get white patches, open sores, receding gums, tooth loss, have gum grafts and keep right on flirting with cancer. What is there to think about? Quit NOW!!!
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ODT --------- umm, where's my ODT? :huh:
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Hello
Just a quick question.
I am currently a dipper, plan on quitting soon.
However just wanted to ask around here if any current/ex dippers experience skin redness under your mouth in the area where you hold your dip?
I've been dealing with what a dermatologist diagnosed me with as "perioral dermatitis" which is basically a rash around the mouth. It's not even really a rash just a persistant redness on my skin where I hold my dip (I switch sides all the time)
However I think it's really something to do with the pressure of holding a dip inside your mouth causing the redness on the outside of it. I dip a lot, unfortunately.
I've been looking at various pictures of dippers on dipper groups on facebook and notice 9 out of 10 of them have some sort of acne/redness around of their mouths. I see it in a lot of wintergreen/flavored dippers, not so much with Natural dips- like Cope LC
Anyone on here ever experience such a thing?
Thanks in advance
I would follow my personal intuition on it and quit stuffing poison in my mouth.
Join us now, why wait? Don't prolong your suffering by cutting down, it usually doesn't work.
I won't lie to you, you are looking at a trip through some serious fog, and unsettling time. But we have all been through it and we can help you get through it.
Don't be stupid! After the red rash you'll probably get white patches, open sores, receding gums, tooth loss, have gum grafts and keep right on flirting with cancer. What is there to think about? Quit NOW!!!
It's just one day - - - - I'll quit tomorrow.
That's your addiction talking to you.
So what's stopping you from quitting right now? Try it!
Take quitting minute by minute
then hour by hour
until you're doing it day by day!
This site and these quitters here, including me, will help guide you ....
No one can make or force you to quit - - - - - - it lies within you.
Remember it's just one day - - - why not today?
I did ... 2,471 days ago. If I can do it! I believe you can too!
-mls
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Hello
Just a quick question.
I am currently a dipper, plan on quitting soon.
However just wanted to ask around here if any current/ex dippers experience skin redness under your mouth in the area where you hold your dip?
I've been dealing with what a dermatologist diagnosed me with as "perioral dermatitis" which is basically a rash around the mouth. It's not even really a rash just a persistant redness on my skin where I hold my dip (I switch sides all the time)
However I think it's really something to do with the pressure of holding a dip inside your mouth causing the redness on the outside of it. I dip a lot, unfortunately.
I've been looking at various pictures of dippers on dipper groups on facebook and notice 9 out of 10 of them have some sort of acne/redness around of their mouths. I see it in a lot of wintergreen/flavored dippers, not so much with Natural dips- like Cope LC
Anyone on here ever experience such a thing?
Thanks in advance
I would follow my personal intuition on it and quit stuffing poison in my mouth.
Join us now, why wait? Don't prolong your suffering by cutting down, it usually doesn't work.
I won't lie to you, you are looking at a trip through some serious fog, and unsettling time. But we have all been through it and we can help you get through it.
Don't be stupid! After the red rash you'll probably get white patches, open sores, receding gums, tooth loss, have gum grafts and keep right on flirting with cancer. What is there to think about? Quit NOW!!!
It's just one day - - - - I'll quit tomorrow.
That's your addiction talking to you.
So what's stopping you from quitting right now? Try it!
Take quitting minute by minute
then hour by hour
until you're doing it day by day!
This site and these quitters here, including me, will help guide you ....
No one can make or force you to quit - - - - - - it lies within you.
Remember it's just one day - - - why not today?
I did ... 2,471 days ago. If I can do it! I believe you can too!
-mls
It (whatever it is) can't heal if you continue to put dip there. Surely you are smart enough to realize that. Flush it and get on board at KTC.
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As of this second, we're approximately 20 members away from number 20,000. Wow!
I've been telling everyone I know that chews about this site. Growing our numbers and helping more lost sheep find their way home.
We're actually getting close to 17,000...
But I LOVE the fact that you're out and about pimping the site... awesome job man! The more the merrier... it's what makes us the best on the web!!!
chewie
I like to give out KTC business cards.
Here's a template you can use to print your own.
http://www.killthecan.org/how-can-you-help/ (http://www.killthecan.org/how-can-you-help/)
AWESOME!!! There are a lot of cards that float around in my world. Going to pass those out. I have been hounding two guys that work for my organization and I see regularly. As a professional mentor in a work setting where dipping is prevalent, I feel I have a lot of influence.
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New Blog Post: It Turns Out Maybe ThereÂ’s A Method To Our Madness
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/10/it-t ... r-madness/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/10/it-turns-out-maybe-theres-a-method-to-our-madness/)
This is great. I have been wanting to see things like this. I love being able to show other people facts.
"You still don't want to quit? Here is the scientific method. Argue with that. You're addict. Let me and science help you."
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New Blog Post: It Turns Out Maybe ThereÂ’s A Method To Our Madness
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/10/it-t ... r-madness/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/10/it-turns-out-maybe-theres-a-method-to-our-madness/)
This is great. I have been wanting to see things like this. I love being able to show other people facts.
"You still don't want to quit? Here is the scientific method. Argue with that. You're addict. Let me and science help you."
What's funny is that when we were at the Smokeless Summit in August, every other group out there wants what we have: quitters that write about their experiences, quitters that help others through the process, and quitters that are willing to be proactive in the fight against nicotine.
We sat at our table with 6 binders full of testimonials. We showed them how active our quitters are. We are the cutting edge.
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Hello
Just a quick question.
I am currently a dipper, plan on quitting soon.
However just wanted to ask around here if any current/ex dippers experience skin redness under your mouth in the area where you hold your dip?
I've been dealing with what a dermatologist diagnosed me with as "perioral dermatitis" which is basically a rash around the mouth. It's not even really a rash just a persistant redness on my skin where I hold my dip (I switch sides all the time)
However I think it's really something to do with the pressure of holding a dip inside your mouth causing the redness on the outside of it. I dip a lot, unfortunately.
I've been looking at various pictures of dippers on dipper groups on facebook and notice 9 out of 10 of them have some sort of acne/redness around of their mouths. I see it in a lot of wintergreen/flavored dippers, not so much with Natural dips- like Cope LC
Anyone on here ever experience such a thing?
Thanks in advance
I would follow my personal intuition on it and quit stuffing poison in my mouth.
Join us now, why wait? Don't prolong your suffering by cutting down, it usually doesn't work.
I won't lie to you, you are looking at a trip through some serious fog, and unsettling time. But we have all been through it and we can help you get through it.
Don't be stupid! After the red rash you'll probably get white patches, open sores, receding gums, tooth loss, have gum grafts and keep right on flirting with cancer. What is there to think about? Quit NOW!!!
It's just one day - - - - I'll quit tomorrow.
That's your addiction talking to you.
So what's stopping you from quitting right now? Try it!
Take quitting minute by minute
then hour by hour
until you're doing it day by day!
This site and these quitters here, including me, will help guide you ....
No one can make or force you to quit - - - - - - it lies within you.
Remember it's just one day - - - why not today?
I did ... 2,471 days ago. If I can do it! I believe you can too!
-mls
It (whatever it is) can't heal if you continue to put dip there. Surely you are smart enough to realize that. Flush it and get on board at KTC.
Capster - stop trying to rationalize your addiction and just QUIT. We all know that chew is poison and it's going to do nasty things to your body. Throw out the can, post roll and be quit today. Come back tomorrow and repeat. Your problems will not get better unless you QUIT NOW.
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Can you say embarassing, moving to a new corpoate office today, the movers lift up my credenza and out rolls a can of copenhagen dated October 10th, 2005. They looked at me like your a dipper?, no I was a dipper. Told them about the site because one had the cope ring in the back pocket, we will see.
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Can you say embarassing, moving to a new corpoate office today, the movers lift up my credenza and out rolls a can of copenhagen dated October 10th, 2005. They looked at me like your a dipper?, no I was a dipper. Told them about the site because one had the cope ring in the back pocket, we will see.
Nic bitch trying to sneak back in after all these years... Fuck her :)
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Can you say embarassing, moving to a new corpoate office today, the movers lift up my credenza and out rolls a can of copenhagen dated October 10th, 2005. They looked at me like your a dipper?, no I was a dipper. Told them about the site because one had the cope ring in the back pocket, we will see.
Nic bitch trying to sneak back in after all these years... Fuck her :)
We had a small leak in our gym. I'm up on a ladder popping ceiling tiles. Found an empty can dated 2009.
My wife was like, "You used to hide your stash up in the ceiling? What the Hell is wrong with you?"
Never again.
For any reason.
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Are there no more discussions or discussion groups in the HOF groups? All I see is roll call and no discussion....boring.
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What the Hell is wrong with you?"
Tell her we're all wondering, too.
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Are there no more discussions or discussion groups in the HOF groups? All I see is roll call and no discussion....boring.
You talking in new groups?
We did an experiment last month with breaking out discussion / roll and it didn't take. Any suggestions?
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Are there no more discussions or discussion groups in the HOF groups? All I see is roll call and no discussion....boring.
You talking in new groups?
We did an experiment last month with breaking out discussion / roll and it didn't take. Any suggestions?
I just thought I was missing something when I scrolled through page after page of just roll call in the quit groups and no discussion.
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Are there no more discussions or discussion groups in the HOF groups? All I see is roll call and no discussion....boring.
You talking in new groups?
We did an experiment last month with breaking out discussion / roll and it didn't take. Any suggestions?
I just thought I was missing something when I scrolled through page after page of just roll call in the quit groups and no discussion.
So what happened to all that Dec 13 stuff? Did you merge all that?
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What the Hell is wrong with you?"
Tell her we're all wondering, too.
FUG.
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Are there no more discussions or discussion groups in the HOF groups? All I see is roll call and no discussion....boring.
You talking in new groups?
We did an experiment last month with breaking out discussion / roll and it didn't take. Any suggestions?
I just thought I was missing something when I scrolled through page after page of just roll call in the quit groups and no discussion.
So what happened to all that Dec 13 stuff? Did you merge all that?
Yep. The 2 December threads (one for roll and one for discussion) have been merged into the current December 2013 thread.
This is something that we've been dealing with / struggling with for quite some time now.
Don't get me wrong... it's a GREAT problem to have. But the struggle has been with SO many people on roll on a daily basis, sometimes the "discussion" does get missed.
Comments? Suggestions? I'd love to have an open discussion about it. As we continue to grow it's going to become more and more of an issue.
Again... this is a great thing. And it's what sets us apart. We'll soon be hitting the 20,000 members mark (sometime in 2014 I'm guessing). And there's no reason to think we'll slow down anytime soon.
But that size does come with issues (TWSS). :)
Honestly... I love it.
Thanks in advance for your discussion...
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Can you say embarassing, moving to a new corpoate office today, the movers lift up my credenza and out rolls a can of copenhagen dated October 10th, 2005. They looked at me like your a dipper?, no I was a dipper. Told them about the site because one had the cope ring in the back pocket, we will see.
Nic bitch trying to sneak back in after all these years... Fuck her :)
We had a small leak in our gym. I'm up on a ladder popping ceiling tiles. Found an empty can dated 2009.
My wife was like, "You used to hide your stash up in the ceiling? What the Hell is wrong with you?"
Never again.
For any reason.
My boys had some strong magnets and managed to summon 4 cans from the top of a shelf in my basement.
It's amazing sometimes.
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If I had not stumbled onto this site Id be sitting on my bed alone without my family and of course with a big dip in. I would gladly pass out business cards. BTW I need to add as many of my fellow brothers to the good old FB.
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If I had not stumbled onto this site Id be sitting on my bed alone without my family and of course with a big dip in. I would gladly pass out business cards. BTW I need to add as many of my fellow brothers to the good old FB.
Welcome aboard Alan!
Business card templates can be downloaded and printed from here: http://www.killthecan.org/how-can-you-help/ (http://www.killthecan.org/how-can-you-help/)
Thanks for spreading the KTC word!!!
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Hello fellow brothers and sisters.
I know it can be very hard at times to stay quit and not give in, I know you think "just one pinch, or just one puff", i know your brain will evaluate situations and try to put itself in one that would be an excuse to dip.
But your brain = your bitch.
I'm only on my 5th day, but have already been put through some tests.
Believe it or not, the day I decided to quit my gf brought me a can from the grocery store (obviously, she didn't know I had quit), but the first thing I did was thank her and tell her how I didn't need it anymore, and I think it was the first time I saw her happily wasting 5 dollars. She cheered as I flushed it all down the toilet.
This past weekend we were at her father's house and he is a heavy smoker (I used to smoke and quit over a month ago), although cigs were always available throughout the weekend, I did not give in. He even offered me to smoke his eCig (which is supposedly "healthier") and I, proudly, said no. Nicotine is nicotine, i dont want to be dip free, or cigs free, i want to be addiction free. I want to depend on nothing but myself and take full control of my life.
I dont quit for anybody, but myself, my life. And I'm loving it!
Just remember, a puff or a pinch, dont feel as good as saying NO. Not even close.
Loving life, day 5 and going strong.
Y'all take care, and stay quit! There is no excuse! Believe in yourself, a minute at a time, you can do it, you DONT need it!!!!!
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Are there no more discussions or discussion groups in the HOF groups? All I see is roll call and no discussion....boring.
You talking in new groups?
We did an experiment last month with breaking out discussion / roll and it didn't take. Any suggestions?
I just thought I was missing something when I scrolled through page after page of just roll call in the quit groups and no discussion.
So what happened to all that Dec 13 stuff? Did you merge all that?
Yep. The 2 December threads (one for roll and one for discussion) have been merged into the current December 2013 thread.
This is something that we've been dealing with / struggling with for quite some time now.
Don't get me wrong... it's a GREAT problem to have. But the struggle has been with SO many people on roll on a daily basis, sometimes the "discussion" does get missed.
Comments? Suggestions? I'd love to have an open discussion about it. As we continue to grow it's going to become more and more of an issue.
Again... this is a great thing. And it's what sets us apart. We'll soon be hitting the 20,000 members mark (sometime in 2014 I'm guessing). And there's no reason to think we'll slow down anytime soon.
But that size does come with issues (TWSS). :)
Honestly... I love it.
Thanks in advance for your discussion...
I would suggest creating 2 groups for each month. They are huge which is good but it would be real hard to follow in the quit fog.
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Hello fellow brothers and sisters.
I know it can be very hard at times to stay quit and not give in, I know you think "just one pinch, or just one puff", i know your brain will evaluate situations and try to put itself in one that would be an excuse to dip.
But your brain = your bitch.
I'm only on my 5th day, but have already been put through some tests.
Believe it or not, the day I decided to quit my gf brought me a can from the grocery store (obviously, she didn't know I had quit), but the first thing I did was thank her and tell her how I didn't need it anymore, and I think it was the first time I saw her happily wasting 5 dollars. She cheered as I flushed it all down the toilet.
This past weekend we were at her father's house and he is a heavy smoker (I used to smoke and quit over a month ago), although cigs were always available throughout the weekend, I did not give in. He even offered me to smoke his eCig (which is supposedly "healthier") and I, proudly, said no. Nicotine is nicotine, i dont want to be dip free, or cigs free, i want to be addiction free. I want to depend on nothing but myself and take full control of my life.
I dont quit for anybody, but myself, my life. And I'm loving it!
Just remember, a puff or a pinch, dont feel as good as saying NO. Not even close.
Loving life, day 5 and going strong.
Y'all take care, and stay quit! There is no excuse! Believe in yourself, a minute at a time, you can do it, you DONT need it!!!!!
This is a guy who "gets it" and he's on day 5.
My quit wood just went off the charts.
Well done sir!!!
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Is it possible to close my account myself or do I need to message an admin/mod?
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Is it possible to close my account myself or do I need to message an admin/mod?
Why would you want to do that?
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Are there no more discussions or discussion groups in the HOF groups? All I see is roll call and no discussion....boring.
You talking in new groups?
We did an experiment last month with breaking out discussion / roll and it didn't take. Any suggestions?
I just thought I was missing something when I scrolled through page after page of just roll call in the quit groups and no discussion.
So what happened to all that Dec 13 stuff? Did you merge all that?
Yep. The 2 December threads (one for roll and one for discussion) have been merged into the current December 2013 thread.
This is something that we've been dealing with / struggling with for quite some time now.
Don't get me wrong... it's a GREAT problem to have. But the struggle has been with SO many people on roll on a daily basis, sometimes the "discussion" does get missed.
Comments? Suggestions? I'd love to have an open discussion about it. As we continue to grow it's going to become more and more of an issue.
Again... this is a great thing. And it's what sets us apart. We'll soon be hitting the 20,000 members mark (sometime in 2014 I'm guessing). And there's no reason to think we'll slow down anytime soon.
But that size does come with issues (TWSS). :)
Honestly... I love it.
Thanks in advance for your discussion...
I would suggest creating 2 groups for each month. They are huge which is good but it would be real hard to follow in the quit fog.
I like the idea of 2 quit groups a month. I agree that having lots of people quitting is a great problem to have but trying to keep up with the constant influx of quitters is a pretty big job and, as witnessed in the Jan 2014 group, some people fall through the cracks. I think that a smaller group would be easier to reach out to each other and be able to help hold each other accountable.
All of this is new for me but being involved has helped my quit tremendously.
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Hello fellow brothers and sisters.
I know it can be very hard at times to stay quit and not give in, I know you think "just one pinch, or just one puff", i know your brain will evaluate situations and try to put itself in one that would be an excuse to dip.
But your brain = your bitch.
I'm only on my 5th day, but have already been put through some tests.
Believe it or not, the day I decided to quit my gf brought me a can from the grocery store (obviously, she didn't know I had quit), but the first thing I did was thank her and tell her how I didn't need it anymore, and I think it was the first time I saw her happily wasting 5 dollars. She cheered as I flushed it all down the toilet.
This past weekend we were at her father's house and he is a heavy smoker (I used to smoke and quit over a month ago), although cigs were always available throughout the weekend, I did not give in. He even offered me to smoke his eCig (which is supposedly "healthier") and I, proudly, said no. Nicotine is nicotine, i dont want to be dip free, or cigs free, i want to be addiction free. I want to depend on nothing but myself and take full control of my life.
I dont quit for anybody, but myself, my life. And I'm loving it!
Just remember, a puff or a pinch, dont feel as good as saying NO. Not even close.
Loving life, day 5 and going strong.
Y'all take care, and stay quit! There is no excuse! Believe in yourself, a minute at a time, you can do it, you DONT need it!!!!!
This is a guy who "gets it" and he's on day 5.
My quit wood just went off the charts.
Well done sir!!!
I am on day 1 not sure how all of this works but reading some of these stories of what some of you have gone through gives me great hope I can do this to. 17 year smoker and dipper and today I decided to quit it all. I know its gonna suck but I know I can do this. The hard part is when I put on the uniform (US Army) I instantly feel the need for it but I will overcome it eventually.
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I am on day 1 not sure how all of this works but reading some of these stories of what some of you have gone through gives me great hope I can do this to. 17 year smoker and dipper and today I decided to quit it all. I know its gonna suck but I know I can do this. The hard part is when I put on the uniform (US Army) I instantly feel the need for it but I will overcome it eventually.
First off, Let me say thanks for serving. Second, Welcome and congrats on the decision to quit. Im not gonna lie, it aint easy but this place offers lots of support from people who has walked this road ahead of you. Id say the best thing to do would be to go to the WELCOME CENTER tab at the top left and read everything there. Then post roll. You will be in the PRE HOF January 2014 group. Post roll early everyday and keep your word all day by remaining NIC free all day. We quit one day at a time here and it works. Read all you can here on the site and in the forums. Get drunk on the quit Kool-Aid
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Hello fellow brothers and sisters.
I know it can be very hard at times to stay quit and not give in, I know you think "just one pinch, or just one puff", i know your brain will evaluate situations and try to put itself in one that would be an excuse to dip.
But your brain = your bitch.
I'm only on my 5th day, but have already been put through some tests.
Believe it or not, the day I decided to quit my gf brought me a can from the grocery store (obviously, she didn't know I had quit), but the first thing I did was thank her and tell her how I didn't need it anymore, and I think it was the first time I saw her happily wasting 5 dollars. She cheered as I flushed it all down the toilet.
This past weekend we were at her father's house and he is a heavy smoker (I used to smoke and quit over a month ago), although cigs were always available throughout the weekend, I did not give in. He even offered me to smoke his eCig (which is supposedly "healthier") and I, proudly, said no. Nicotine is nicotine, i dont want to be dip free, or cigs free, i want to be addiction free. I want to depend on nothing but myself and take full control of my life.
I dont quit for anybody, but myself, my life. And I'm loving it!
Just remember, a puff or a pinch, dont feel as good as saying NO. Not even close.
Loving life, day 5 and going strong.
Y'all take care, and stay quit! There is no excuse! Believe in yourself, a minute at a time, you can do it, you DONT need it!!!!!
This is a guy who "gets it" and he's on day 5.
My quit wood just went off the charts.
Well done sir!!!
I am on day 1 not sure how all of this works but reading some of these stories of what some of you have gone through gives me great hope I can do this to. 17 year smoker and dipper and today I decided to quit it all. I know its gonna suck but I know I can do this. The hard part is when I put on the uniform (US Army) I instantly feel the need for it but I will overcome it eventually.
You may "feel" the need for it, but you don't NEED it.
You said it right on yourself, the "feel" and the "need" are two different things.
Everything you feel is brain controlled and you, as a soldier, should know this better than anybody. Every feeling is triggered by the brain, therefore, the feel for the need is irrelevant when you make your brain your bitch.
You don't need it at all. I know it's hard and I know it sucks, but you are from the military, you know things can get hard, but it's not about how hard things get, it's about how hard you can be to those things.
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Are there no more discussions or discussion groups in the HOF groups? All I see is roll call and no discussion....boring.
You talking in new groups?
We did an experiment last month with breaking out discussion / roll and it didn't take. Any suggestions?
I just thought I was missing something when I scrolled through page after page of just roll call in the quit groups and no discussion.
So what happened to all that Dec 13 stuff? Did you merge all that?
Yep. The 2 December threads (one for roll and one for discussion) have been merged into the current December 2013 thread.
This is something that we've been dealing with / struggling with for quite some time now.
Don't get me wrong... it's a GREAT problem to have. But the struggle has been with SO many people on roll on a daily basis, sometimes the "discussion" does get missed.
Comments? Suggestions? I'd love to have an open discussion about it. As we continue to grow it's going to become more and more of an issue.
Again... this is a great thing. And it's what sets us apart. We'll soon be hitting the 20,000 members mark (sometime in 2014 I'm guessing). And there's no reason to think we'll slow down anytime soon.
But that size does come with issues (TWSS). :)
Honestly... I love it.
Thanks in advance for your discussion...
I would suggest creating 2 groups for each month. They are huge which is good but it would be real hard to follow in the quit fog.
I can agree, having a seperate discussion group was great. I could post roll and then pop over to see what was going on. Didn't have to filter through pages and pages of roll before finding a post of a brother that needed help.
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Are there no more discussions or discussion groups in the HOF groups? All I see is roll call and no discussion....boring.
You talking in new groups?
We did an experiment last month with breaking out discussion / roll and it didn't take. Any suggestions?
I just thought I was missing something when I scrolled through page after page of just roll call in the quit groups and no discussion.
So what happened to all that Dec 13 stuff? Did you merge all that?
Yep. The 2 December threads (one for roll and one for discussion) have been merged into the current December 2013 thread.
This is something that we've been dealing with / struggling with for quite some time now.
Don't get me wrong... it's a GREAT problem to have. But the struggle has been with SO many people on roll on a daily basis, sometimes the "discussion" does get missed.
Comments? Suggestions? I'd love to have an open discussion about it. As we continue to grow it's going to become more and more of an issue.
Again... this is a great thing. And it's what sets us apart. We'll soon be hitting the 20,000 members mark (sometime in 2014 I'm guessing). And there's no reason to think we'll slow down anytime soon.
But that size does come with issues (TWSS). :)
Honestly... I love it.
Thanks in advance for your discussion...
I would suggest creating 2 groups for each month. They are huge which is good but it would be real hard to follow in the quit fog.
I can agree, having a seperate discussion group was great. I could post roll and then pop over to see what was going on. Didn't have to filter through pages and pages of roll before finding a post of a brother that needed help.
I think two separate groups is a good idea as well. Makes it easier to find the discussions and not screw up roll.
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Is it possible to close my account myself or do I need to message an admin/mod?
Why would you want to do that?
The site has become more of a stress than a useful tool for me. After this, I will no longer be active here.
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Is it possible to close my account myself or do I need to message an admin/mod?
Why would you want to do that?
The site has become more of a stress than a useful tool for me. After this, I will no longer be active here.
Sorry to hear that. Hope you stay quit.
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Is it possible to close my account myself or do I need to message an admin/mod?
Why would you want to do that?
The site has become more of a stress than a useful tool for me. After this, I will no longer be active here.
Sorry to hear that. Hope you stay quit.
Never heard that one before.
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Is it possible to close my account myself or do I need to message an admin/mod?
Why would you want to do that?
The site has become more of a stress than a useful tool for me. After this, I will no longer be active here.
Sorry to hear that. Hope you stay quit.
Never heard that one before.
She got stressed out when held accountable. Now she gotta go cause of the "stress".
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Is it possible to close my account myself or do I need to message an admin/mod?
Why would you want to do that?
The site has become more of a stress than a useful tool for me. After this, I will no longer be active here.
Sorry to hear that. Hope you stay quit.
Never heard that one before.
She got stressed out when held accountable. Now she gotta go cause of the "stress".
Because it's soooo stressfull to post roll once a day and keep a promise. 'no'
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Is it possible to close my account myself or do I need to message an admin/mod?
Why would you want to do that?
The site has become more of a stress than a useful tool for me. After this, I will no longer be active here.
Sorry to hear that. Hope you stay quit.
Never heard that one before.
She got stressed out when held accountable. Now she gotta go cause of the "stress".
Because it's soooo stressfull to post roll once a day and keep a promise. 'no'
Those mean DEC 13 guys put me on the missing list at 5pm. And sent me PM's asking me if I was going to post roll. They so mean they stress me out!!!!!!
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Is it possible to close my account myself or do I need to message an admin/mod?
Why would you want to do that?
The site has become more of a stress than a useful tool for me. After this, I will no longer be active here.
Sorry to hear that. Hope you stay quit.
Never heard that one before.
She got stressed out when held accountable. Now she gotta go cause of the "stress".
Because it's soooo stressfull to post roll once a day and keep a promise. 'no'
Those mean DEC 13 guys put me on the missing list at 5pm. And sent me PM's asking me if I was going to post roll. They so mean they stress me out!!!!!!
We're all a bunch if assholes over there. Especially Ron.
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Is it possible to close my account myself or do I need to message an admin/mod?
Why would you want to do that?
The site has become more of a stress than a useful tool for me. After this, I will no longer be active here.
Sorry to hear that. Hope you stay quit.
Never heard that one before.
She got stressed out when held accountable. Now she gotta go cause of the "stress".
Because it's soooo stressfull to post roll once a day and keep a promise. 'no'
Those mean DEC 13 guys put me on the missing list at 5pm. And sent me PM's asking me if I was going to post roll. They so mean they stress me out!!!!!!
We're all a bunch if assholes over there. Especially Ron.
Yeah Ron, quit pissn off everybody. Why you gotta go all strict quit on every slacker. Lol
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Are there no more discussions or discussion groups in the HOF groups? All I see is roll call and no discussion....boring.
You talking in new groups?
We did an experiment last month with breaking out discussion / roll and it didn't take. Any suggestions?
I just thought I was missing something when I scrolled through page after page of just roll call in the quit groups and no discussion.
So what happened to all that Dec 13 stuff? Did you merge all that?
Yep. The 2 December threads (one for roll and one for discussion) have been merged into the current December 2013 thread.
This is something that we've been dealing with / struggling with for quite some time now.
Don't get me wrong... it's a GREAT problem to have. But the struggle has been with SO many people on roll on a daily basis, sometimes the "discussion" does get missed.
Comments? Suggestions? I'd love to have an open discussion about it. As we continue to grow it's going to become more and more of an issue.
Again... this is a great thing. And it's what sets us apart. We'll soon be hitting the 20,000 members mark (sometime in 2014 I'm guessing). And there's no reason to think we'll slow down anytime soon.
But that size does come with issues (TWSS). :)
Honestly... I love it.
Thanks in advance for your discussion...
I would suggest creating 2 groups for each month. They are huge which is good but it would be real hard to follow in the quit fog.
I can agree, having a seperate discussion group was great. I could post roll and then pop over to see what was going on. Didn't have to filter through pages and pages of roll before finding a post of a brother that needed help.
Yep. I like the discussion page. When you upwards 100 posting on roll call its hard to find any discussion. You have to basically scroll to Horst post to make sure you don't miss any thing.
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Is it possible to close my account myself or do I need to message an admin/mod?
Why would you want to do that?
The site has become more of a stress than a useful tool for me. After this, I will no longer be active here.
Has KTC forced you to go back to dipping with all the stress?
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Is it possible to close my account myself or do I need to message an admin/mod?
Why would you want to do that?
The site has become more of a stress than a useful tool for me. After this, I will no longer be active here.
Sorry to hear that. Hope you stay quit.
Never heard that one before.
She got stressed out when held accountable. Now she gotta go cause of the "stress".
Because it's soooo stressfull to post roll once a day and keep a promise. 'no'
Those mean DEC 13 guys put me on the missing list at 5pm. And sent me PM's asking me if I was going to post roll. They so mean they stress me out!!!!!!
We're all a bunch if assholes over there. Especially Ron.
Yeah Ron, quit pissn off everybody. Why you gotta go all strict quit on every slacker. Lol
Sorry, I was missing my afternoon nap. I feel better now.
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Is it possible to close my account myself or do I need to message an admin/mod?
Why would you want to do that?
The site has become more of a stress than a useful tool for me. After this, I will no longer be active here.
Has KTC forced you to go back to dipping with all the stress?
Take what you need.
Leave the rest.
All we ask is for you to post roll. If you need more help, the ask. If you don't, live. We quit because we want to.
What's so stressful about the site to you?
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I have a confession to make.
I never used dip.
Dip used me.
So good to be free.
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I think it's essential to have a DISCUSSION thread for each quit group. Merging the threads into Discussion/Roll Call is a bad idea because so much seems to get lost into the fray.
We need both. Just my two cents.
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New Blog Post: The Surest Sign Baseball Men Were Here - Skoal Wintergreen
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/10/the- ... ntergreen/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/10/the-surest-sign-baseball-men-were-here-skoal-wintergreen/)
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Is it possible to close my account myself or do I need to message an admin/mod?
Why would you want to do that?
The site has become more of a stress than a useful tool for me. After this, I will no longer be active here.
Has KTC forced you to go back to dipping with all the stress?
Take what you need.
Leave the rest.
All we ask is for you to post roll. If you need more help, the ask. If you don't, live. We quit because we want to.
What's so stressful about the site to you?
If you're never going to post here again, why do you care about closing your account?
Point is, we'll be here when you're ready.
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I think it's essential to have a DISCUSSION thread for each quit group. Merging the threads into Discussion/Roll Call is a bad idea because so much seems to get lost into the fray.
We need both. Just my two cents.
In the Non-Dipping section, there are 305 different topics. There are 4,159 intros, and over 300,000 individual responses outside of HOF classes.
I think that the Admin/Mod team tried to split out a class with their own Discussion thread...but... 'qt' ...didn't get much response.
My two cents - If you want/need to discuss something, there are plenty of opportunities to do just that. If you don't see something, there is even a "Request a Topic" thread.
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Is it possible to close my account myself or do I need to message an admin/mod?
Why would you want to do that?
The site has become more of a stress than a useful tool for me. After this, I will no longer be active here.
Sorry to hear that. Hope you stay quit.
Never heard that one before.
She got stressed out when held accountable. Now she gotta go cause of the "stress".
Because it's soooo stressfull to post roll once a day and keep a promise. 'no'
Those mean DEC 13 guys put me on the missing list at 5pm. And sent me PM's asking me if I was going to post roll. They so mean they stress me out!!!!!!
We're all a bunch if assholes over there. Especially Ron.
Yeah Ron, quit pissn off everybody. Why you gotta go all strict quit on every slacker. Lol
Sorry, I was missing my afternoon nap. I feel better now.
No fuckin way i'll ever cave. You guys got me scared shitless.
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Is it possible to close my account myself or do I need to message an admin/mod?
Why would you want to do that?
The site has become more of a stress than a useful tool for me. After this, I will no longer be active here.
Sorry to hear that. Hope you stay quit.
Never heard that one before.
She got stressed out when held accountable. Now she gotta go cause of the "stress".
Because it's soooo stressfull to post roll once a day and keep a promise. 'no'
Those mean DEC 13 guys put me on the missing list at 5pm. And sent me PM's asking me if I was going to post roll. They so mean they stress me out!!!!!!
We're all a bunch if assholes over there. Especially Ron.
Yeah Ron, quit pissn off everybody. Why you gotta go all strict quit on every slacker. Lol
Sorry, I was missing my afternoon nap. I feel better now.
No fuckin way i'll ever cave. You guys got me scared shitless.
I'm the same way, lol.
I can see a panel van rolling up beside a caver and masked men jumping out and beating him with rubber hoses and then racing off into the night
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Is it possible to close my account myself or do I need to message an admin/mod?
Why would you want to do that?
The site has become more of a stress than a useful tool for me. After this, I will no longer be active here.
Sorry to hear that. Hope you stay quit.
Never heard that one before.
She got stressed out when held accountable. Now she gotta go cause of the "stress".
Because it's soooo stressfull to post roll once a day and keep a promise. 'no'
Those mean DEC 13 guys put me on the missing list at 5pm. And sent me PM's asking me if I was going to post roll. They so mean they stress me out!!!!!!
We're all a bunch if assholes over there. Especially Ron.
Yeah Ron, quit pissn off everybody. Why you gotta go all strict quit on every slacker. Lol
Sorry, I was missing my afternoon nap. I feel better now.
No fuckin way i'll ever cave. You guys got me scared shitless.
I'm the same way, lol.
I can see a panel van rolling up beside a caver and masked men jumping out and beating him with rubber hoses and then racing off into the night
I heard panel. You rang?
And, damnit Ron...eat a Snickers. You're not you when you're hungry.
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New Blog Post: BaccOff Mocha Review
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/10/bacc ... ha-review/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/10/baccoff-mocha-review/)
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I have a smoker friend that's asked about the success of my quit and about the KTC site. I know it's kill the can and seems like its all dip/chew folks so I wanted to ask about smokers. I ask because I just read a HOF that seems to be from someone that was only a smoker. No dip. So my question is, is KTC cool with cig quitters? Thanks.
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I have a smoker friend that's asked about the success of my quit and about the KTC site. I know it's kill the can and seems like its all dip/chew folks so I wanted to ask about smokers. I ask because I just read a HOF that seems to be from someone that was only a smoker. No dip. So my question is, is KTC cool with cig quitters? Thanks.
We quit all forms of nicotine here. Of course he is welcome.
I (and many here) chewed primarily, but we did experiment with most nicotine vehicles. We criteria about chewing because that is what we know.
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I have a smoker friend that's asked about the success of my quit and about the KTC site. I know it's kill the can and seems like its all dip/chew folks so I wanted to ask about smokers. I ask because I just read a HOF that seems to be from someone that was only a smoker. No dip. So my question is, is KTC cool with cig quitters? Thanks.
We quit all forms of nicotine here. Of course he is welcome.
I (and many here) chewed primarily, but we did experiment with most nicotine vehicles. We criteria about chewing because that is what we know.
Thanks for the response WP. Hopefully my bud will start the same journey I'm on. And the cool thing is, every day I'm still on this same journey, the more likely that hope in my friends will be stirred up enough that they will believe they can do it also. Hey, if I can do it, I know they can.
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I have a smoker friend that's asked about the success of my quit and about the KTC site. I know it's kill the can and seems like its all dip/chew folks so I wanted to ask about smokers. I ask because I just read a HOF that seems to be from someone that was only a smoker. No dip.  So my question is, is KTC cool with cig quitters? Thanks.
We quit all forms of nicotine here. Of course he is welcome.
I (and many here) chewed primarily, but we did experiment with most nicotine vehicles. We criteria about chewing because that is what we know.
Thanks for the response WP. Hopefully my bud will start the same journey I'm on. And the cool thing is, every day I'm still on this same journey, the more likely that hope in my friends will be stirred up enough that they will believe they can do it also. Hey, if I can do it, I know they can.
There are several quitters here that were exclusive smokers. Tell them to come drink the kool-aid, it tastes great!
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I have a smoker friend that's asked about the success of my quit and about the KTC site. I know it's kill the can and seems like its all dip/chew folks so I wanted to ask about smokers. I ask because I just read a HOF that seems to be from someone that was only a smoker. No dip.  So my question is, is KTC cool with cig quitters? Thanks.
We quit all forms of nicotine here. Of course he is welcome.
I (and many here) chewed primarily, but we did experiment with most nicotine vehicles. We criteria about chewing because that is what we know.
Thanks for the response WP. Hopefully my bud will start the same journey I'm on. And the cool thing is, every day I'm still on this same journey, the more likely that hope in my friends will be stirred up enough that they will believe they can do it also. Hey, if I can do it, I know they can.
There are several quitters here that were exclusive smokers. Tell them to come drink the kool-aid, it tastes great!
Or at least tell them about Whack The Pack (http://www.whackthepack.com/) if they feel that hanging out with dippers is uncool (but we have more fun while quitting).
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I have a smoker friend that's asked about the success of my quit and about the KTC site. I know it's kill the can and seems like its all dip/chew folks so I wanted to ask about smokers. I ask because I just read a HOF that seems to be from someone that was only a smoker. No dip.  So my question is, is KTC cool with cig quitters? Thanks.
We quit all forms of nicotine here. Of course he is welcome.
I (and many here) chewed primarily, but we did experiment with most nicotine vehicles. We criteria about chewing because that is what we know.
Thanks for the response WP. Hopefully my bud will start the same journey I'm on. And the cool thing is, every day I'm still on this same journey, the more likely that hope in my friends will be stirred up enough that they will believe they can do it also. Hey, if I can do it, I know they can.
There are several quitters here that were exclusive smokers. Tell them to come drink the kool-aid, it tastes great!
Or at least tell them about Whack The Pack (http://www.whackthepack.com/) if they feel that hanging out with dippers is uncool (but we have more fun while quitting).
Ironically the latest HOF speech was written by a smoker: http://www.killthecan.org/you-only-quit ... l-stopper/ (http://www.killthecan.org/you-only-quit-once-or-how-i-stopped-being-a-serial-stopper/)
As others have said, he's MORE than welcome!
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Is it possible to close my account myself or do I need to message an admin/mod?
Why would you want to do that?
The site has become more of a stress than a useful tool for me. After this, I will no longer be active here.
Sorry to hear that. Hope you stay quit.
Never heard that one before.
She got stressed out when held accountable. Now she gotta go cause of the "stress".
Because it's soooo stressfull to post roll once a day and keep a promise. 'no'
Those mean DEC 13 guys put me on the missing list at 5pm. And sent me PM's asking me if I was going to post roll. They so mean they stress me out!!!!!!
We're all a bunch if assholes over there. Especially Ron.
Yeah Ron, quit pissn off everybody. Why you gotta go all strict quit on every slacker. Lol
Sorry, I was missing my afternoon nap. I feel better now.
No fuckin way i'll ever cave. You guys got me scared shitless.
I'm the same way, lol.
I can see a panel van rolling up beside a caver and masked men jumping out and beating him with rubber hoses and then racing off into the night
I heard panel. You rang?
And, damnit Ron...eat a Snickers. You're not you when you're hungry.
Can't believe you're demanding accountability. We'd have way more quitters if we had a group hug and a circle jerk every other day.
Weak in my opinion.
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I Stole this from Greg5280 over at Whackthepack.org:
So live your life that the fear of death can never enter your heart. Trouble no one about their religion; respect others in their view, and demand that they respect yours. Love your life, perfect your life, beautify all things in your life. Seek to make your life long and its purpose in the service of your people. Prepare a noble death song for the day when you go over the great divide.
Always give a word or a sign of salute when meeting or passing a friend, even a stranger, when in a lonely place. Show respect to all people and grovel to none.
When you arise in the morning give thanks for the food and for the joy of living. If you see no reason for giving thanks, the fault lies only in yourself. Abuse no one and no thing, for abuse turns the wise ones to fools and robs the spirit of its vision.
When it comes your time to die, be not like those whose hearts are filled with the fear of death, so that when their time comes they weep and pray for a little more time to live their lives over again in a different way. Sing your death song and die like a hero going home.
-Tecumseh
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I Stole this from Greg5280 over at Whackthepack.org:
So live your life that the fear of death can never enter your heart. Trouble no one about their religion; respect others in their view, and demand that they respect yours. Love your life, perfect your life, beautify all things in your life. Seek to make your life long and its purpose in the service of your people. Prepare a noble death song for the day when you go over the great divide.
Always give a word or a sign of salute when meeting or passing a friend, even a stranger, when in a lonely place. Show respect to all people and grovel to none.
When you arise in the morning give thanks for the food and for the joy of living. If you see no reason for giving thanks, the fault lies only in yourself. Abuse no one and no thing, for abuse turns the wise ones to fools and robs the spirit of its vision.
When it comes your time to die, be not like those whose hearts are filled with the fear of death, so that when their time comes they weep and pray for a little more time to live their lives over again in a different way. Sing your death song and die like a hero going home.
-Tecumseh
EVERYONE needs to go into the 'Hall of Legends' forum and check out Dean the Coots' post.... Fuckin' inspiring.
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Is it possible to close my account myself or do I need to message an admin/mod?
Why would you want to do that?
The site has become more of a stress than a useful tool for me. After this, I will no longer be active here.
Sorry to hear that. Hope you stay quit.
Never heard that one before.
She got stressed out when held accountable. Now she gotta go cause of the "stress".
Because it's soooo stressfull to post roll once a day and keep a promise. 'no'
Those mean DEC 13 guys put me on the missing list at 5pm. And sent me PM's asking me if I was going to post roll. They so mean they stress me out!!!!!!
We're all a bunch if assholes over there. Especially Ron.
Yeah Ron, quit pissn off everybody. Why you gotta go all strict quit on every slacker. Lol
Sorry, I was missing my afternoon nap. I feel better now.
No fuckin way i'll ever cave. You guys got me scared shitless.
I'm the same way, lol.
I can see a panel van rolling up beside a caver and masked men jumping out and beating him with rubber hoses and then racing off into the night
I heard panel. You rang?
And, damnit Ron...eat a Snickers. You're not you when you're hungry.
Can't believe you're demanding accountability. We'd have way more quitters if we had a group hug and a circle jerk every other day.
Weak in my opinion.
Circle jerk?
I bet I come in first and third!
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Not sure how I announce myself to the community but Today I quit chewing tobacco. I know it will be a long road, prepared myself as much as i can. Day 1- HERE WE Go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Not sure how I announce myself to the community but Today I quit chewing tobacco. I know it will be a long road, prepared myself as much as i can. Day 1- HERE WE Go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
POST Roll, then head over to introductions and tell us about yourself.
Welcome, looking forward to quitting with you.
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Walkin' the factory floor at work today, couple issues got me a little stressed out, nothing major just a bunch of little things that keep cropping up...anyhow, all the sudden my brain says, "hey, u could use a dip, man".....I stop dead in my tracks and out loud announce " I don't dip anymore asshole," and I said it as if there was a guy standing next to me offering a pinch, when in reality I was arguing with myself (Kinda glad there wasn't anyone standing right next to me, i'd have sounded a little nutty).
It was one of the stronger craves i've had, just seemed to crop up from nowhere, but I just wanted to share that here. (BTW, I grabbed a bottle of water and some Jakes Mint when I got back to my office).
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Is it possible to close my account myself or do I need to message an admin/mod?
Why would you want to do that?
The site has become more of a stress than a useful tool for me. After this, I will no longer be active here.
Sorry to hear that. Hope you stay quit.
Never heard that one before.
She got stressed out when held accountable. Now she gotta go cause of the "stress".
Because it's soooo stressfull to post roll once a day and keep a promise. 'no'
Those mean DEC 13 guys put me on the missing list at 5pm. And sent me PM's asking me if I was going to post roll. They so mean they stress me out!!!!!!
We're all a bunch if assholes over there. Especially Ron.
Yeah Ron, quit pissn off everybody. Why you gotta go all strict quit on every slacker. Lol
Sorry, I was missing my afternoon nap. I feel better now.
No fuckin way i'll ever cave. You guys got me scared shitless.
I'm the same way, lol.
I can see a panel van rolling up beside a caver and masked men jumping out and beating him with rubber hoses and then racing off into the night
I heard panel. You rang?
And, damnit Ron...eat a Snickers. You're not you when you're hungry.
Can't believe you're demanding accountability. We'd have way more quitters if we had a group hug and a circle jerk every other day.
Weak in my opinion.
Circle jerk?
I bet I come in first and third!
Should be filling out the Hurt Feelings Form (http://www.digdang.com/image/hurt_feelings_form/4028/)
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"hey, u could use a dip, man".....I stop dead in my tracks and out loud announce " I don't dip anymore asshole,"
No matter how many times I read that, I still crack up. Way to kick that bitch's ass
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New Blog Post: Ode To Day 74 - Female Quitters Galore
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/10/ode- ... rs-galore/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/10/ode-to-day-74-female-quitters-galore/)
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I have a smoker friend that's asked about the success of my quit and about the KTC site. I know it's kill the can and seems like its all dip/chew folks so I wanted to ask about smokers. I ask because I just read a HOF that seems to be from someone that was only a smoker. No dip.  So my question is, is KTC cool with cig quitters? Thanks.
We quit all forms of nicotine here. Of course he is welcome.
I (and many here) chewed primarily, but we did experiment with most nicotine vehicles. We criteria about chewing because that is what we know.
Thanks for the response WP. Hopefully my bud will start the same journey I'm on. And the cool thing is, every day I'm still on this same journey, the more likely that hope in my friends will be stirred up enough that they will believe they can do it also. Hey, if I can do it, I know they can.
There are several quitters here that were exclusive smokers. Tell them to come drink the kool-aid, it tastes great!
Or at least tell them about Whack The Pack (http://www.whackthepack.com/) if they feel that hanging out with dippers is uncool (but we have more fun while quitting).
Ironically the latest HOF speech was written by a smoker: http://www.killthecan.org/you-only-quit ... l-stopper/ (http://www.killthecan.org/you-only-quit-once-or-how-i-stopped-being-a-serial-stopper/)
As others have said, he's MORE than welcome!
Thank you. Man my success here at KTC is personally overwhelming. And even more so when other addict friend look at me with those eyes of disbelief. And i know why. I can count the number of quitters I know personally on 1 hand. Hell, half a hand. They want to know how I'm doing it. And it's so cool to tell them about KTC and all my quit buddies. So I'm hopefull that my friends will start the journey.
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New Blog Post: Get Your Quit On With Hooch Snuff And Sarge Reherman
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/10/get- ... -reherman/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/10/get-your-quit-on-with-hooch-snuff-and-sarge-reherman/)
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New Blog Post: Get Your Quit On With Hooch Snuff And Sarge Reherman
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/10/get- ... -reherman/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/10/get-your-quit-on-with-hooch-snuff-and-sarge-reherman/)
Good stuff right there.
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New Blog Post: Get Your Quit On With Hooch Snuff And Sarge Reherman
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/10/get- ... -reherman/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/10/get-your-quit-on-with-hooch-snuff-and-sarge-reherman/)
Good stuff right there.
Very goo stuff.
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That dude's awesome! We need to see more PSA videos from him.
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[ Man my success here at KTC is personally overwhelming. And even more so when other addict friend look at me with those eyes of disbelief. And i know why. I can count the number of quitters I know personally on 1 hand. Hell, half a hand. They want to know how I'm doing it. And it's so cool to tell them about KTC and all my quit buddies. So I'm hopefull that my friends will start the journey.
Yeah man. I've been trying to talk some of my friends into checking out KTC. None of them seem to be very interested in quitting at all. of course they all say shit like "yeah, I really need to quit" but I said that for years before i finally sacked-up and declared 'Day 1'.
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Hello all,
I have recently quit the can after ten years. I have had no dip for six days now and am experiencing an interesting sensation. My gums where I would hold the chew are quite sore. It's not the worst pain in the world, but it is very uncomfortable. Slight pain yesterday, worse today and seems to be getting worse as the day goes on. The gums aren't sensitive to the touch, it feels like the pain is coming from the jawbone. I was hoping someone here could perhaps shed some light on what may be causing this? In the interest of providing all the information, I did use some mint chew substitute for the first couple days but found that after the first awful days of no chew the mint stuff wasn't really good enough to continue.
Thanks to you all for reading and although this is my first post, I have been reading the site for a bit and find it very neat to have a place to ask these questions.
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New Blog Post: Get Your Quit On With Hooch Snuff And Sarge Reherman
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/10/get- ... -reherman/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/10/get-your-quit-on-with-hooch-snuff-and-sarge-reherman/)
Good stuff right there.
'worship' 'worship' 'worship'
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New Blog Post: Get Your Quit On With Hooch Snuff And Sarge Reherman
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/10/get- ... -reherman/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/10/get-your-quit-on-with-hooch-snuff-and-sarge-reherman/)
Good stuff right there.
'worship' 'worship' 'worship'
I just ordered the hooch classic sampler, using the coupon code. After reading the reviews I am looking forward to adding it to my arsenal to help me quit. Thank you to the users who gave their reviews of the product!
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[ Man my success here at KTC is personally overwhelming. And even more so when other addict friend look at me with those eyes of disbelief. And i know why. I can count the number of quitters I know personally on 1 hand. Hell, half a hand. They want to know how I'm doing it. And it's so cool to tell them about KTC and all my quit buddies. So I'm hopefull that my friends will start the journey.
Yeah man. I've been trying to talk some of my friends into checking out KTC. None of them seem to be very interested in quitting at all. of course they all say shit like "yeah, I really need to quit" but I said that for years before i finally sacked-up and declared 'Day 1'.
"Yeah, I really need to quit." I do not know how many times I have heard that from my friends. But they are very supportive of me trying to quit, and look forward to the day that they "really" do quit.
Thanks for all the posts, some good reads!
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New Blog Post: Get Your Quit On With Hooch Snuff And Sarge Reherman
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/10/get- ... -reherman/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/10/get-your-quit-on-with-hooch-snuff-and-sarge-reherman/)
Good stuff right there.
'worship' 'worship' 'worship'
I just ordered the hooch classic sampler, using the coupon code. After reading the reviews I am looking forward to adding it to my arsenal to help me quit. Thank you to the users who gave their reviews of the product!
Where do I get the coupon code?
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New Blog Post: Get Your Quit On With Hooch Snuff And Sarge Reherman
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/10/get- ... -reherman/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/10/get-your-quit-on-with-hooch-snuff-and-sarge-reherman/)
Good stuff right there.
'worship' 'worship' 'worship'
I just ordered the hooch classic sampler, using the coupon code. After reading the reviews I am looking forward to adding it to my arsenal to help me quit. Thank you to the users who gave their reviews of the product!
Where do I get the coupon code?
NEVERMIND. I found it.
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Hello all,
I have recently quit the can after ten years. I have had no dip for six days now and am experiencing an interesting sensation. My gums where I would hold the chew are quite sore. It's not the worst pain in the world, but it is very uncomfortable. Slight pain yesterday, worse today and seems to be getting worse as the day goes on. The gums aren't sensitive to the touch, it feels like the pain is coming from the jawbone. I was hoping someone here could perhaps shed some light on what may be causing this? In the interest of providing all the information, I did use some mint chew substitute for the first couple days but found that after the first awful days of no chew the mint stuff wasn't really good enough to continue.
Thanks to you all for reading and although this is my first post, I have been reading the site for a bit and find it very neat to have a place to ask these questions.
Hey man,
I'm on day 12 and I had the same thing for about the last week. It started going away today. My tongue and the roof of my mouth also got really raw, and it was almost painful eating anything acidic or salty. I don't know for sure that the last part was from quitting, as I have been sick lately too, but, something to look out for, and if you experience it, that's probably normal too.
Congrats on the quit man, Stay strong.
NO nicotine, NO excuses.
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Hello all,
I have recently quit the can after ten years. I have had no dip for six days now and am experiencing an interesting sensation. My gums where I would hold the chew are quite sore. It's not the worst pain in the world, but it is very uncomfortable. Slight pain yesterday, worse today and seems to be getting worse as the day goes on. The gums aren't sensitive to the touch, it feels like the pain is coming from the jawbone. I was hoping someone here could perhaps shed some light on what may be causing this? In the interest of providing all the information, I did use some mint chew substitute for the first couple days but found that after the first awful days of no chew the mint stuff wasn't really good enough to continue.
Thanks to you all for reading and although this is my first post, I have been reading the site for a bit and find it very neat to have a place to ask these questions.
Hey man,
I'm on day 12 and I had the same thing for about the last week. It started going away today. My tongue and the roof of my mouth also got really raw, and it was almost painful eating anything acidic or salty. I don't know for sure that the last part was from quitting, as I have been sick lately too, but, something to look out for, and if you experience it, that's probably normal too.
Congrats on the quit man, Stay strong.
NO nicotine, NO excuses.
Thank you for the reply. It is a weird thing to say, but it is amazing how great it is to hear that someone else has shared this pain. Better than I thought it would be to not be alone in this. I also thought I was getting sick the last couple of days: sore throat, slight wheezing. Hard to imagine this is all caused by no more nicotine. It's a hell of a drug. Sincerely hope that this teeth root pain (or whatever it is) goes away like yours did, or I may be in for a real tough next week. I have found that a cold beverage sloshed around makes it go away for a short while. Thanks again for not letting me continue to have thoughts run wild like "am I too late and without chaw my mouth will hurt forever." It's irrational, but I guess it's life without the weed in my mouth.
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I'm a new member and I've been weaning for the past few days and today is the first day completely solo with no crutch. I made it all day yesterday until 1630 until temptation took over and I took a dip. I had it for only a few minutes until I spit it out and dumped the can. Today I am solo with no can in my pocket. This is the 8th or 10th time I've quit so I kinda know what to expect as far as the withdrawal symptoms go but knowing does not make them any less painful. Anyway, my username is appropriate. Bazooka is the bubble gum I'm chewing like a fiend right now. I'll check back periodically but I feel good out this time. I've quit drinking 6 months ago, one day at a time so I'll do this too. one day at a time.
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I'm a new member and I've been weaning for the past few days and today is the first day completely solo with no crutch. I made it all day yesterday until 1630 until temptation took over and I took a dip. I had it for only a few minutes until I spit it out and dumped the can. Today I am solo with no can in my pocket. This is the 8th or 10th time I've quit so I kinda know what to expect as far as the withdrawal symptoms go but knowing does not make them any less painful. Anyway, my username is appropriate. Bazooka is the bubble gum I'm chewing like a fiend right now. I'll check back periodically but I feel good out this time. I've quit drinking 6 months ago, one day at a time so I'll do this too. one day at a time.
BazookaJoe, please check for a PM from me in your inbox above in the upper right corner of your window. There are better places to put this information and I provided you links to those places.
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I'm a new member and I've been weaning for the past few days and today is the first day completely solo with no crutch. I made it all day yesterday until 1630 until temptation took over and I took a dip. I had it for only a few minutes until I spit it out and dumped the can. Today I am solo with no can in my pocket. This is the 8th or 10th time I've quit so I kinda know what to expect as far as the withdrawal symptoms go but knowing does not make them any less painful. Anyway, my username is appropriate. Bazooka is the bubble gum I'm chewing like a fiend right now. I'll check back periodically but I feel good out this time. I've quit drinking 6 months ago, one day at a time so I'll do this too. one day at a time.
BazookaJoe, please check for a PM from me in your inbox above in the upper right corner of your window. There are better places to put this information and I provided you links to those places.
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"weaning" just prolongs with withdrawl effects. Withdrawl effects suck so get those ended as quickly as possible, which means cold turkey. Drink a river of water everyday and try to exercise to speed this process along.
Next, if you are serious, dump all your shit, even the hidden emergency cans. Dump the spitters. Don't go into a convenience store. Pay for gas at the pump (don't go in!). Stay the fuck away from the dip mongers! Stay in your house. Tell your family and friends that you are quit. READ READ READ everything on KTC.
Get your name on roll first thing in the morning and then honor your word all day. Repeat tomorrow.
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Day 6. The first 5 weren't too bad, but then my ole lady had a run in with the police last night. She pissed them off and they of course responded in a way that upset her (harassing, but nothing physical or way over the top- just really rude). She ended up with two tickets. Came home crying, it was her "last straw". I did go to the police station and talk to the LT on duty who said he had no authority to check dash cams, but stated if I wanted to file a complaint to come back in the morning.
In her defense, she has been having to deal with aging parents in poor health, aging grand parents in poor health, bills piling up, our grown kids and teenage girl... the usual mid-life BS.
Leading into today, I get up, she's getting ready to take her grandma to the doctor, I'm getting ready for work. I ask if she wants me to file a complaint (after she's had a chance to sleep on it) she says no. I drop her off at grandmas, I go home and get all bundled up to ride the bike to work. Hit the interstate and notice the speedo needle jumping (bad battery or battery connection), so I turn around and park the bike. As i'm driving to work I get the worst efing craving for a dip.
Stress has always been the driving factor in me going back to dip. I appreciate this resource and the contract in my wallet. If not for those factors I'd have a big fat pinch in my mouth right now.
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Day 6. The first 5 weren't too bad, but then my ole lady had a run in with the police last night. She pissed them off and they of course responded in a way that upset her (harassing, but nothing physical or way over the top- just really rude). She ended up with two tickets. Came home crying, it was her "last straw". I did go to the police station and talk to the LT on duty who said he had no authority to check dash cams, but stated if I wanted to file a complaint to come back in the morning.
In her defense, she has been having to deal with aging parents in poor health, aging grand parents in poor health, bills piling up, our grown kids and teenage girl... the usual mid-life BS.
Leading into today, I get up, she's getting ready to take her grandma to the doctor, I'm getting ready for work. I ask if she wants me to file a complaint (after she's had a chance to sleep on it) she says no. I drop her off at grandmas, I go home and get all bundled up to ride the bike to work. Hit the interstate and notice the speedo needle jumping (bad battery or battery connection), so I turn around and park the bike. As i'm driving to work I get the worst efing craving for a dip.
Stress has always been the driving factor in me going back to dip. I appreciate this resource and the contract in my wallet. If not for those factors I'd have a big fat pinch in my mouth right now.
The nic bitch is testing you!!! Don't give in!!!! You're stronger than that and besides you don't do that anymore!!!! What do you ride??? Check out the "Ride it like you stole it" thread in the wildcard section.
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I'm a new member and I've been weaning for the past few days and today is the first day completely solo with no crutch. I made it all day yesterday until 1630 until temptation took over and I took a dip. I had it for only a few minutes until I spit it out and dumped the can. Today I am solo with no can in my pocket. This is the 8th or 10th time I've quit so I kinda know what to expect as far as the withdrawal symptoms go but knowing does not make them any less painful. Anyway, my username is appropriate. Bazooka is the bubble gum I'm chewing like a fiend right now. I'll check back periodically but I feel good out this time. I've quit drinking 6 months ago, one day at a time so I'll do this too. one day at a time.
BazookaJoe, please check for a PM from me in your inbox above in the upper right corner of your window. There are better places to put this information and I provided you links to those places.
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"weaning" just prolongs with withdrawl effects. Withdrawl effects suck so get those ended as quickly as possible, which means cold turkey. Drink a river of water everyday and try to exercise to speed this process along.
Next, if you are serious, dump all your shit, even the hidden emergency cans. Dump the spitters. Don't go into a convenience store. Pay for gas at the pump (don't go in!). Stay the fuck away from the dip mongers! Stay in your house. Tell your family and friends that you are quit. READ READ READ everything on KTC.
Get your name on roll first thing in the morning and then honor your word all day. Repeat tomorrow.
There will be no more just one to make it through the day. You will be strong and suceed or you will be weak and fail.
The great thing about it is, you get to choose which one you will be.....
I will be strong.
Razd -Day 1500-
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I'm a new member and I've been weaning for the past few days and today is the first day completely solo with no crutch. I made it all day yesterday until 1630 until temptation took over and I took a dip. I had it for only a few minutes until I spit it out and dumped the can. Today I am solo with no can in my pocket. This is the 8th or 10th time I've quit so I kinda know what to expect as far as the withdrawal symptoms go but knowing does not make them any less painful. Anyway, my username is appropriate. Bazooka is the bubble gum I'm chewing like a fiend right now. I'll check back periodically but I feel good out this time. I've quit drinking 6 months ago, one day at a time so I'll do this too. one day at a time.
BazookaJoe, please check for a PM from me in your inbox above in the upper right corner of your window. There are better places to put this information and I provided you links to those places.
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"weaning" just prolongs with withdrawl effects. Withdrawl effects suck so get those ended as quickly as possible, which means cold turkey. Drink a river of water everyday and try to exercise to speed this process along.
Next, if you are serious, dump all your shit, even the hidden emergency cans. Dump the spitters. Don't go into a convenience store. Pay for gas at the pump (don't go in!). Stay the fuck away from the dip mongers! Stay in your house. Tell your family and friends that you are quit. READ READ READ everything on KTC.
Get your name on roll first thing in the morning and then honor your word all day. Repeat tomorrow.
There will be no more just one to make it through the day. You will be strong and suceed or you will be weak and fail.
The great thing about it is, you get to choose which one you will be.....
I will be strong.
Razd -Day 1500-
I'm sure you've seen your error by now - if not here it is: "This is the 8th or 10th time I've quit"
You ever hear someone say "this is the 8th or 10th time I killed myself"? Hell no, that's not possible. You've never quit but it sounds like you'd like to - this is a good place to quit. Welcome.
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Hello all,
I have recently quit the can after ten years. I have had no dip for six days now and am experiencing an interesting sensation. My gums where I would hold the chew are quite sore. It's not the worst pain in the world, but it is very uncomfortable. Slight pain yesterday, worse today and seems to be getting worse as the day goes on. The gums aren't sensitive to the touch, it feels like the pain is coming from the jawbone. I was hoping someone here could perhaps shed some light on what may be causing this? In the interest of providing all the information, I did use some mint chew substitute for the first couple days but found that after the first awful days of no chew the mint stuff wasn't really good enough to continue.
Thanks to you all for reading and although this is my first post, I have been reading the site for a bit and find it very neat to have a place to ask these questions.
Hey man,
I'm on day 12 and I had the same thing for about the last week. It started going away today. My tongue and the roof of my mouth also got really raw, and it was almost painful eating anything acidic or salty. I don't know for sure that the last part was from quitting, as I have been sick lately too, but, something to look out for, and if you experience it, that's probably normal too.
Congrats on the quit man, Stay strong.
NO nicotine, NO excuses.
Just keep watching Bobbarkers avatar and you'll feel no pain...
On a serious note, I'm on day 11 and have had similar pains off and on so far, which is a pretty common thing from what many vets have relayed. Congrats on the quit, I encourage you to join your brother quitters, the Jan-14 NIC Killers and start posting roll. Make no mistake, you'll be held accountable to your daily promise, however you'll also find more support than you could ever imagine.
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In case you missed it... the forums hit 14,000 members today.
You're part of something special folks. Just remember, the old saying is wrong...
Quitters ALWAYS win!
And just 10 months later, we're creeping up on 17K.
Amazing.
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Hello all,
I have recently quit the can after ten years. I have had no dip for six days now and am experiencing an interesting sensation. My gums where I would hold the chew are quite sore. It's not the worst pain in the world, but it is very uncomfortable. Slight pain yesterday, worse today and seems to be getting worse as the day goes on. The gums aren't sensitive to the touch, it feels like the pain is coming from the jawbone. I was hoping someone here could perhaps shed some light on what may be causing this? In the interest of providing all the information, I did use some mint chew substitute for the first couple days but found that after the first awful days of no chew the mint stuff wasn't really good enough to continue.
Thanks to you all for reading and although this is my first post, I have been reading the site for a bit and find it very neat to have a place to ask these questions.
Hey man,
I'm on day 12 and I had the same thing for about the last week. It started going away today. My tongue and the roof of my mouth also got really raw, and it was almost painful eating anything acidic or salty. I don't know for sure that the last part was from quitting, as I have been sick lately too, but, something to look out for, and if you experience it, that's probably normal too.
Congrats on the quit man, Stay strong.
NO nicotine, NO excuses.
Just keep watching Bobbarkers avatar and you'll feel no pain...
On a serious note, I'm on day 11 and have had similar pains off and on so far, which is a pretty common thing from what many vets have relayed. Congrats on the quit, I encourage you to join your brother quitters, the Jan-14 NIC Killers and start posting roll. Make no mistake, you'll be held accountable to your daily promise, however you'll also find more support than you could ever imagine.
I had a similiar sensation, my jaw/chin below my teeth hurting. It eventually quit hurting but was a reminder of why I was quitting.
A member's wife is a nurse and said that stress can make your jaw hurt.
Give it a couple weeks, but it would never hurt to see your dentist or family doctor.
Stay strong bro.
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Hello all,
I have recently quit the can after ten years. I have had no dip for six days now and am experiencing an interesting sensation. My gums where I would hold the chew are quite sore. It's not the worst pain in the world, but it is very uncomfortable. Slight pain yesterday, worse today and seems to be getting worse as the day goes on. The gums aren't sensitive to the touch, it feels like the pain is coming from the jawbone. I was hoping someone here could perhaps shed some light on what may be causing this? In the interest of providing all the information, I did use some mint chew substitute for the first couple days but found that after the first awful days of no chew the mint stuff wasn't really good enough to continue.
Thanks to you all for reading and although this is my first post, I have been reading the site for a bit and find it very neat to have a place to ask these questions.
Hey man,
I'm on day 12 and I had the same thing for about the last week. It started going away today. My tongue and the roof of my mouth also got really raw, and it was almost painful eating anything acidic or salty. I don't know for sure that the last part was from quitting, as I have been sick lately too, but, something to look out for, and if you experience it, that's probably normal too.
Congrats on the quit man, Stay strong.
NO nicotine, NO excuses.
Just keep watching Bobbarkers avatar and you'll feel no pain...
On a serious note, I'm on day 11 and have had similar pains off and on so far, which is a pretty common thing from what many vets have relayed. Congrats on the quit, I encourage you to join your brother quitters, the Jan-14 NIC Killers and start posting roll. Make no mistake, you'll be held accountable to your daily promise, however you'll also find more support than you could ever imagine.
I had a similiar sensation, my jaw/chin below my teeth hurting. It eventually quit hurting but was a reminder of why I was quitting.
A member's wife is a nurse and said that stress can make your jaw hurt.
Give it a couple weeks, but it would never hurt to see your dentist or family doctor.
Stay strong bro.
Hello everyone
I have not had a dip in 3 days. I was a 2 can a day user for 30 years. I have however been using Nicorette gum to help with withdraw. Not real sure that has been working. Have not slept for two days, bad headaches can't focus, etc. should I dump the Nicorette gum. If all it is doing is prolonging the withdraw then I think I should. Oh and yes using as directed not just for cravings. Just wanted to get some advise.
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Hello all,
I have recently quit the can after ten years. I have had no dip for six days now and am experiencing an interesting sensation. My gums where I would hold the chew are quite sore. It's not the worst pain in the world, but it is very uncomfortable. Slight pain yesterday, worse today and seems to be getting worse as the day goes on. The gums aren't sensitive to the touch, it feels like the pain is coming from the jawbone. I was hoping someone here could perhaps shed some light on what may be causing this? In the interest of providing all the information, I did use some mint chew substitute for the first couple days but found that after the first awful days of no chew the mint stuff wasn't really good enough to continue.
Thanks to you all for reading and although this is my first post, I have been reading the site for a bit and find it very neat to have a place to ask these questions.
Hey man,
I'm on day 12 and I had the same thing for about the last week. It started going away today. My tongue and the roof of my mouth also got really raw, and it was almost painful eating anything acidic or salty. I don't know for sure that the last part was from quitting, as I have been sick lately too, but, something to look out for, and if you experience it, that's probably normal too.
Congrats on the quit man, Stay strong.
NO nicotine, NO excuses.
Just keep watching Bobbarkers avatar and you'll feel no pain...
On a serious note, I'm on day 11 and have had similar pains off and on so far, which is a pretty common thing from what many vets have relayed. Congrats on the quit, I encourage you to join your brother quitters, the Jan-14 NIC Killers and start posting roll. Make no mistake, you'll be held accountable to your daily promise, however you'll also find more support than you could ever imagine.
I had a similiar sensation, my jaw/chin below my teeth hurting. It eventually quit hurting but was a reminder of why I was quitting.
A member's wife is a nurse and said that stress can make your jaw hurt.
Give it a couple weeks, but it would never hurt to see your dentist or family doctor.
Stay strong bro.
Hello everyone
I have not had a dip in 3 days. I was a 2 can a day user for 30 years. I have however been using Nicorette gum to help with withdraw. Not real sure that has been working. Have not slept for two days, bad headaches can't focus, etc. should I dump the Nicorette gum. If all it is doing is prolonging the withdraw then I think I should. Oh and yes using as directed not just for cravings. Just wanted to get some advise.
Nicorette gum (and other nicotine replacement therapies) all contain nicotine, which is the drug you/we are addicted to.
How can you quit a drug addiction if you continue to use it?
Weaning (nic-gum, patch, suppository) only prolongs with withdrawl effects. Man up, quit cold turkey, fight through the shitty feelings (the Suck), and get your blood clear of poison once and for all.
We quit cold turkey here. So can you.
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Hello all,
I have recently quit the can after ten years. I have had no dip for six days now and am experiencing an interesting sensation. My gums where I would hold the chew are quite sore. It's not the worst pain in the world, but it is very uncomfortable. Slight pain yesterday, worse today and seems to be getting worse as the day goes on. The gums aren't sensitive to the touch, it feels like the pain is coming from the jawbone. I was hoping someone here could perhaps shed some light on what may be causing this? In the interest of providing all the information, I did use some mint chew substitute for the first couple days but found that after the first awful days of no chew the mint stuff wasn't really good enough to continue.
Thanks to you all for reading and although this is my first post, I have been reading the site for a bit and find it very neat to have a place to ask these questions.
Hey man,
I'm on day 12 and I had the same thing for about the last week. It started going away today. My tongue and the roof of my mouth also got really raw, and it was almost painful eating anything acidic or salty. I don't know for sure that the last part was from quitting, as I have been sick lately too, but, something to look out for, and if you experience it, that's probably normal too.
Congrats on the quit man, Stay strong.
NO nicotine, NO excuses.
Just keep watching Bobbarkers avatar and you'll feel no pain...
On a serious note, I'm on day 11 and have had similar pains off and on so far, which is a pretty common thing from what many vets have relayed. Congrats on the quit, I encourage you to join your brother quitters, the Jan-14 NIC Killers and start posting roll. Make no mistake, you'll be held accountable to your daily promise, however you'll also find more support than you could ever imagine.
I had a similiar sensation, my jaw/chin below my teeth hurting. It eventually quit hurting but was a reminder of why I was quitting.
A member's wife is a nurse and said that stress can make your jaw hurt.
Give it a couple weeks, but it would never hurt to see your dentist or family doctor.
Stay strong bro.
Hello everyone
I have not had a dip in 3 days. I was a 2 can a day user for 30 years. I have however been using Nicorette gum to help with withdraw. Not real sure that has been working. Have not slept for two days, bad headaches can't focus, etc. should I dump the Nicorette gum. If all it is doing is prolonging the withdraw then I think I should. Oh and yes using as directed not just for cravings. Just wanted to get some advise.
Nicorette gum (and other nicotine replacement therapies) all contain nicotine, which is the drug you/we are addicted to.
How can you quit a drug addiction if you continue to use it?
Weaning (nic-gum, patch, suppository) only prolongs with withdrawl effects. Man up, quit cold turkey, fight through the shitty feelings (the Suck), and get your blood clear of poison once and for all.
We quit cold turkey here. So can you.
Thanks needed to hear that. Today is my quit day. From this day forward I am nicotine free.
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Hello all,
I have recently quit the can after ten years. I have had no dip for six days now and am experiencing an interesting sensation. My gums where I would hold the chew are quite sore. It's not the worst pain in the world, but it is very uncomfortable. Slight pain yesterday, worse today and seems to be getting worse as the day goes on. The gums aren't sensitive to the touch, it feels like the pain is coming from the jawbone. I was hoping someone here could perhaps shed some light on what may be causing this? In the interest of providing all the information, I did use some mint chew substitute for the first couple days but found that after the first awful days of no chew the mint stuff wasn't really good enough to continue.
Thanks to you all for reading and although this is my first post, I have been reading the site for a bit and find it very neat to have a place to ask these questions.
Hey man,
I'm on day 12 and I had the same thing for about the last week. It started going away today. My tongue and the roof of my mouth also got really raw, and it was almost painful eating anything acidic or salty. I don't know for sure that the last part was from quitting, as I have been sick lately too, but, something to look out for, and if you experience it, that's probably normal too.
Congrats on the quit man, Stay strong.
NO nicotine, NO excuses.
Just keep watching Bobbarkers avatar and you'll feel no pain...
On a serious note, I'm on day 11 and have had similar pains off and on so far, which is a pretty common thing from what many vets have relayed. Congrats on the quit, I encourage you to join your brother quitters, the Jan-14 NIC Killers and start posting roll. Make no mistake, you'll be held accountable to your daily promise, however you'll also find more support than you could ever imagine.
I had a similiar sensation, my jaw/chin below my teeth hurting. It eventually quit hurting but was a reminder of why I was quitting.
A member's wife is a nurse and said that stress can make your jaw hurt.
Give it a couple weeks, but it would never hurt to see your dentist or family doctor.
Stay strong bro.
Hello everyone
I have not had a dip in 3 days. I was a 2 can a day user for 30 years. I have however been using Nicorette gum to help with withdraw. Not real sure that has been working. Have not slept for two days, bad headaches can't focus, etc. should I dump the Nicorette gum. If all it is doing is prolonging the withdraw then I think I should. Oh and yes using as directed not just for cravings. Just wanted to get some advise.
Nicorette gum (and other nicotine replacement therapies) all contain nicotine, which is the drug you/we are addicted to.
How can you quit a drug addiction if you continue to use it?
Weaning (nic-gum, patch, suppository) only prolongs with withdrawl effects. Man up, quit cold turkey, fight through the shitty feelings (the Suck), and get your blood clear of poison once and for all.
We quit cold turkey here. So can you.
Thanks needed to hear that. Today is my quit day. From this day forward I am nicotine free.
Good. Nic is not allowed here in any form, orally, nasal, freebase, mainline or anally.
You can do this!!!
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Hello all,
I have recently quit the can after ten years. I have had no dip for six days now and am experiencing an interesting sensation. My gums where I would hold the chew are quite sore. It's not the worst pain in the world, but it is very uncomfortable. Slight pain yesterday, worse today and seems to be getting worse as the day goes on. The gums aren't sensitive to the touch, it feels like the pain is coming from the jawbone. I was hoping someone here could perhaps shed some light on what may be causing this? In the interest of providing all the information, I did use some mint chew substitute for the first couple days but found that after the first awful days of no chew the mint stuff wasn't really good enough to continue.
Thanks to you all for reading and although this is my first post, I have been reading the site for a bit and find it very neat to have a place to ask these questions.
Hey man,
I'm on day 12 and I had the same thing for about the last week. It started going away today. My tongue and the roof of my mouth also got really raw, and it was almost painful eating anything acidic or salty. I don't know for sure that the last part was from quitting, as I have been sick lately too, but, something to look out for, and if you experience it, that's probably normal too.
Congrats on the quit man, Stay strong.
NO nicotine, NO excuses.
Just keep watching Bobbarkers avatar and you'll feel no pain...
On a serious note, I'm on day 11 and have had similar pains off and on so far, which is a pretty common thing from what many vets have relayed. Congrats on the quit, I encourage you to join your brother quitters, the Jan-14 NIC Killers and start posting roll. Make no mistake, you'll be held accountable to your daily promise, however you'll also find more support than you could ever imagine.
I had a similiar sensation, my jaw/chin below my teeth hurting. It eventually quit hurting but was a reminder of why I was quitting.
A member's wife is a nurse and said that stress can make your jaw hurt.
Give it a couple weeks, but it would never hurt to see your dentist or family doctor.
Stay strong bro.
Hello everyone
I have not had a dip in 3 days. I was a 2 can a day user for 30 years. I have however been using Nicorette gum to help with withdraw. Not real sure that has been working. Have not slept for two days, bad headaches can't focus, etc. should I dump the Nicorette gum. If all it is doing is prolonging the withdraw then I think I should. Oh and yes using as directed not just for cravings. Just wanted to get some advise.
Nicorette gum (and other nicotine replacement therapies) all contain nicotine, which is the drug you/we are addicted to.
How can you quit a drug addiction if you continue to use it?
Weaning (nic-gum, patch, suppository) only prolongs with withdrawl effects. Man up, quit cold turkey, fight through the shitty feelings (the Suck), and get your blood clear of poison once and for all.
We quit cold turkey here. So can you.
Thanks needed to hear that. Today is my quit day. From this day forward I am nicotine free.
Good. Nic is not allowed here in any form, orally, nasal, freebase, mainline or anally.
You can do this!!!
Hello. I'm on day 1 after almost 6 years of dipping snuff. Any help is appreciated.
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Hello all,
I have recently quit the can after ten years. I have had no dip for six days now and am experiencing an interesting sensation. My gums where I would hold the chew are quite sore. It's not the worst pain in the world, but it is very uncomfortable. Slight pain yesterday, worse today and seems to be getting worse as the day goes on. The gums aren't sensitive to the touch, it feels like the pain is coming from the jawbone. I was hoping someone here could perhaps shed some light on what may be causing this? In the interest of providing all the information, I did use some mint chew substitute for the first couple days but found that after the first awful days of no chew the mint stuff wasn't really good enough to continue.
Thanks to you all for reading and although this is my first post, I have been reading the site for a bit and find it very neat to have a place to ask these questions.
Hey man,
I'm on day 12 and I had the same thing for about the last week. It started going away today. My tongue and the roof of my mouth also got really raw, and it was almost painful eating anything acidic or salty. I don't know for sure that the last part was from quitting, as I have been sick lately too, but, something to look out for, and if you experience it, that's probably normal too.
Congrats on the quit man, Stay strong.
NO nicotine, NO excuses.
Just keep watching Bobbarkers avatar and you'll feel no pain...
On a serious note, I'm on day 11 and have had similar pains off and on so far, which is a pretty common thing from what many vets have relayed. Congrats on the quit, I encourage you to join your brother quitters, the Jan-14 NIC Killers and start posting roll. Make no mistake, you'll be held accountable to your daily promise, however you'll also find more support than you could ever imagine.
I had a similiar sensation, my jaw/chin below my teeth hurting. It eventually quit hurting but was a reminder of why I was quitting.
A member's wife is a nurse and said that stress can make your jaw hurt.
Give it a couple weeks, but it would never hurt to see your dentist or family doctor.
Stay strong bro.
Hello everyone
I have not had a dip in 3 days. I was a 2 can a day user for 30 years. I have however been using Nicorette gum to help with withdraw. Not real sure that has been working. Have not slept for two days, bad headaches can't focus, etc. should I dump the Nicorette gum. If all it is doing is prolonging the withdraw then I think I should. Oh and yes using as directed not just for cravings. Just wanted to get some advise.
Nicorette gum (and other nicotine replacement therapies) all contain nicotine, which is the drug you/we are addicted to.
How can you quit a drug addiction if you continue to use it?
Weaning (nic-gum, patch, suppository) only prolongs with withdrawl effects. Man up, quit cold turkey, fight through the shitty feelings (the Suck), and get your blood clear of poison once and for all.
We quit cold turkey here. So can you.
Thanks needed to hear that. Today is my quit day. From this day forward I am nicotine free.
Good. Nic is not allowed here in any form, orally, nasal, freebase, mainline or anally.
You can do this!!!
Hello. I'm on day 1 after almost 6 years of dipping snuff. Any help is appreciated.
Day 1 sucks but it get easier. Read, read, read...everything on this site. get some life savers, red-hots, atomic fireballs, sunflower seeds, and shit tons of water. Post roll and be string. that's it man. I'll send you my # if you need anything hit me up.
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Hello. I'm on day 1 after almost 6 years of dipping snuff. Any help is appreciated.
Day 1 sucks but it get easier. Read, read, read...everything on this site. get some life savers, red-hots, atomic fireballs, sunflower seeds, and shit tons of water. Post roll and be string. that's it man. I'll send you my # if you need anything hit me up.
I 'hope' your name is not some indicator as to how you are approaching this.
We don't run on Hope, or Luck, or Try.
We do.
You want some help? Don't put that shit in your face today. Just today.
You come back here tomorrow and repeat.
Pretty simple, actually. But not easy.
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Hello. I'm on day 1 after almost 6 years of dipping snuff. Any help is appreciated.
Day 1 sucks but it get easier. Read, read, read...everything on this site. get some life savers, red-hots, atomic fireballs, sunflower seeds, and shit tons of water. Post roll and be string. that's it man. I'll send you my # if you need anything hit me up.
I 'hope' your name is not some indicator as to how you are approaching this.
We don't run on Hope, or Luck, or Try.
We do.
You want some help? Don't put that shit in your face today. Just today.
You come back here tomorrow and repeat.
Pretty simple, actually. But not easy.
Thanks for the message.
okay I'll change my name to justdoit.. sound better. or give me a suggestion
you're right about it not being simple
i can't seem to figure out how to post roll. i'm not on facebook if that's where you learn how to do these things i went to welcome center and i know my group is feb 2014.
i dipped twice today and i'm going to keep reading and typing till i find my group and follow the rule no dipping on this site. i think that is a wise and awesome rule
just like you can't drink at AA meetings.
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Hello. I'm on day 1 after almost 6 years of dipping snuff. Any help is appreciated.
Day 1 sucks but it get easier. Read, read, read...everything on this site. get some life savers, red-hots, atomic fireballs, sunflower seeds, and shit tons of water. Post roll and be string. that's it man. I'll send you my # if you need anything hit me up.
I 'hope' your name is not some indicator as to how you are approaching this.
We don't run on Hope, or Luck, or Try.
We do.
You want some help? Don't put that shit in your face today. Just today.
You come back here tomorrow and repeat.
Pretty simple, actually. But not easy.
Thanks for the message.
okay I'll change my name to justdoit.. sound better. or give me a suggestion
you're right about it not being simple
i can't seem to figure out how to post roll. i'm not on facebook if that's where you learn how to do these things i went to welcome center and i know my group is feb 2014.
i dipped twice today and i'm going to keep reading and typing till i find my group and follow the rule no dipping on this site. i think that is a wise and awesome rule
just like you can't drink at AA meetings.
What the???
Its not that we don't dip while on the site!! We don't dip and don't use nicotine in any way, shape or form. This is a no nicotine forum. Period. End of story.
You need to be quit here. post roll everyday stating that you will not use nicotine for the next 24 hours. Keep your word and repeat tomorrow.
Go read the Welcome Center from top to bottom to learn about what we do here.
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Hello. I'm on day 1 after almost 6 years of dipping snuff. Any help is appreciated.
Day 1 sucks but it get easier. Read, read, read...everything on this site. get some life savers, red-hots, atomic fireballs, sunflower seeds, and shit tons of water. Post roll and be string. that's it man. I'll send you my # if you need anything hit me up.
I 'hope' your name is not some indicator as to how you are approaching this.
We don't run on Hope, or Luck, or Try.
We do.
You want some help? Don't put that shit in your face today. Just today.
You come back here tomorrow and repeat.
Pretty simple, actually. But not easy.
Thanks for the message.
okay I'll change my name to justdoit.. sound better. or give me a suggestion
you're right about it not being simple
i can't seem to figure out how to post roll. i'm not on facebook if that's where you learn how to do these things i went to welcome center and i know my group is feb 2014.
i dipped twice today and i'm going to keep reading and typing till i find my group and follow the rule no dipping on this site. i think that is a wise and awesome rule
just like you can't drink at AA meetings.
What the???
Its not that we don't dip while on the site!! We don't dip and don't use nicotine in any way, shape or form. This is a no nicotine forum. Period. End of story.
You need to be quit here. post roll everyday stating that you will not use nicotine for the next 24 hours. Keep your word and repeat tomorrow.
Go read the Welcome Center from top to bottom to learn about what we do here.
Thanks for setting me straight. I meant its a start. I realize now I don't need to be discussing anything till I've quit.
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Bro, everything they have said true. I dipped (1.5 cans of COPE a day) for 21 Plus years.. I am on day 41. Either you want it or you don't. Do it for you. Posting roll is easy, hell I figured it out.. All a true man has is his word. If a mans word is foul, so is he.. Post each day (by computer or phone) and GIVE YOUR WORD that you are quit.
If you cant post give a shout (PM for number) and we will help you. But remember your word is bond!
When you quit for you, your world will change. You will feel so free...
Best thoughts....
Chris
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I pulled out a old pair of hiking boots to get repaired for an upcoming hunting trip and I found a hidden cope can in the boot. I look forward to a day when I stop finding reminders of my chewing/nicotine addiction.
TGIF! Cheers
Idaho Spuds - Charles
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I pulled out a old pair of hiking boots to get repaired for an upcoming hunting trip and I found a hidden cope can in the boot. I look forward to a day when I stop finding reminders of my chewing/nicotine addiction.
TGIF! Cheers
Idaho Spuds - Charles
I was doing some work at our gym and I found one up in the ceiling tiles.
I quit over 3 years ago.
Have a great hike!
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I pulled out a old pair of hiking boots to get repaired for an upcoming hunting trip and I found a hidden cope can in the boot. I look forward to a day when I stop finding reminders of my chewing/nicotine addiction.
TGIF! Cheers
Idaho Spuds - Charles
I was doing some work at our gym and I found one up in the ceiling tiles.
I quit over 3 years ago.
Have a great hike!
Have you looked in your printers? That could be your problem. 'crackup'
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Hello everyone. I am new so if I do not post in the right section... I apologize. To give a little background about myself...
I have chewed Skoal then Red Seal for a combined 20 years anywhere from 1/2 can to 1 1/2 can per day. My family wanted me to quit, asked me quit and even annoyed me with reminding me to quit. I never had that desire to quit. Honestly, just never wanted to. Then this past Saturday, my 13 year old son woke me up to go turkey hunting. I woke up, did my normal routine went about my business and prior to getting in the truck, I realized I didn't put my chew in as I normally do every morning. I said to myself, "Hey, I've already gone an hour, I wonder if I can go two". Before I knew it, cough drops, candy, gum and seeds have taken over and it is now Monday and no chew. I went and bought a can of Smokey Mountain.
Is what is odd is, within 5 minutes of waking up each day, I have a chew. Then literally the only time through the day I don't have a chew is when I am eating. It was really, really bad. I didn't make a concious decision to quit... I just got on this road by challenging myself 1 hour at a time. Now I am on my third day, yes I'm ready to scream. Yes I have two unopened cans in my truck. One I even opened and smelled the snuff but I know I can do it. I was getting a really bad craving but I started typing and it seems to be going away. Has anyone else just kinda fell into quitting like I did or am I just a wierd one? Oh, the other reason I am wanting to stay quit is I treated my family like crap over the weekend. They did not know I was quittting. I figured since I was a royal jerk and it has been 3 days... I might as well stay quit. but I will admit it sucks and I really dont know if I can do it.
Sorry for the ramble, this just helped me. cant explain it but it just helped.
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"Fear and panic are two separate emotions, fear is healthy and panic is deadly" – Watched Chasing Mavericks this weekend. It’s a damn good movie. I just had a panic situation that maybe someone else might have. A buddy of mine opened a can in my office and the smell was almost too much to take. I felt the panic as my mouth watered and my mind begin to focus and justify caving “just this once.” It was very hard to ask him to put that shit away. I have a fear of caving and what that will lead to. I need to not panic and give that fear reality.
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I pulled out a old pair of hiking boots to get repaired for an upcoming hunting trip and I found a hidden cope can in the boot. I look forward to a day when I stop finding reminders of my chewing/nicotine addiction.
TGIF! Cheers
Idaho Spuds - Charles
I was doing some work at our gym and I found one up in the ceiling tiles.
I quit over 3 years ago.
Have a great hike!
Have you looked in your printers? That could be your problem. 'crackup'
Har-dee-Har-Har! :angry:
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I pulled out a old pair of hiking boots to get repaired for an upcoming hunting trip and I found a hidden cope can in the boot. I look forward to a day when I stop finding reminders of my chewing/nicotine addiction.
TGIF! Cheers
Idaho Spuds - Charles
I was doing some work at our gym and I found one up in the ceiling tiles.
I quit over 3 years ago.
Have a great hike!
Have you looked in your printers? That could be your problem. 'crackup'
Har-dee-Har-Har! :angry:
'crackup' Guess that'll never die!!!
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:NOLAQ:
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I pulled out a old pair of hiking boots to get repaired for an upcoming hunting trip and I found a hidden cope can in the boot. I look forward to a day when I stop finding reminders of my chewing/nicotine addiction.
TGIF! Cheers
Idaho Spuds - Charles
I was doing some work at our gym and I found one up in the ceiling tiles.
I quit over 3 years ago.
Have a great hike!
Have you looked in your printers? That could be your problem. 'crackup'
Har-dee-Har-Har! :angry:
'crackup' Guess that'll never die!!!
Nolaq's printer
http://museumvictoria.com.au/collection ... -old-style (http://museumvictoria.com.au/collections/items/404303/printing-press-chandler-price-treadle-clam-shell-platen-old-style)
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I pulled out a old pair of hiking boots to get repaired for an upcoming hunting trip and I found a hidden cope can in the boot. I look forward to a day when I stop finding reminders of my chewing/nicotine addiction.
TGIF! Cheers
Idaho Spuds - Charles
I was doing some work at our gym and I found one up in the ceiling tiles.
I quit over 3 years ago.
Have a great hike!
Have you looked in your printers? That could be your problem. 'crackup'
Har-dee-Har-Har! :angry:
'crackup' Guess that'll never die!!!
Nolaq's printer
http://museumvictoria.com.au/collection ... -old-style (http://museumvictoria.com.au/collections/items/404303/printing-press-chandler-price-treadle-clam-shell-platen-old-style)
The fucker still works!
'Finger'
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I missed it, but we reached 17,000 members!
'oh yeah'
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I missed it, but we reached 17,000 members!
'oh yeah'
In less than a HOF cycle no less!!!
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/11/kill ... 0-members/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/11/killthecan-org-quit-forums-surpass-17000-members/)
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New Blog Post: KillTheCan.org Quit Forums Surpass 17,000 Members!
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/11/kill ... 0-members/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/11/killthecan-org-quit-forums-surpass-17000-members/)
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Hello everyone. I am new so if I do not post in the right section... I apologize. To give a little background about myself...
I have chewed Skoal then Red Seal for a combined 20 years anywhere from 1/2 can to 1 1/2 can per day. My family wanted me to quit, asked me quit and even annoyed me with reminding me to quit. I never had that desire to quit. Honestly, just never wanted to. Then this past Saturday, my 13 year old son woke me up to go turkey hunting. I woke up, did my normal routine went about my business and prior to getting in the truck, I realized I didn't put my chew in as I normally do every morning. I said to myself, "Hey, I've already gone an hour, I wonder if I can go two". Before I knew it, cough drops, candy, gum and seeds have taken over and it is now Monday and no chew. I went and bought a can of Smokey Mountain.
Is what is odd is, within 5 minutes of waking up each day, I have a chew. Then literally the only time through the day I don't have a chew is when I am eating. It was really, really bad. I didn't make a concious decision to quit... I just got on this road by challenging myself 1 hour at a time. Now I am on my third day, yes I'm ready to scream. Yes I have two unopened cans in my truck. One I even opened and smelled the snuff but I know I can do it. I was getting a really bad craving but I started typing and it seems to be going away. Has anyone else just kinda fell into quitting like I did or am I just a wierd one? Oh, the other reason I am wanting to stay quit is I treated my family like crap over the weekend. They did not know I was quittting. I figured since I was a royal jerk and it has been 3 days... I might as well stay quit. but I will admit it sucks and I really dont know if I can do it.
Sorry for the ramble, this just helped me. cant explain it but it just helped.
Great work on the decision to quit chewing. First toss those cans, second find your quit group and then read and post on the site and lastly post roll call everyday promising the group and yourself that you will quit each day.
We all have various stories of quiting, but we all wind up the same spot, that we are addicted to the nicotine in chew and we were a slave to it everyday.
Stay strong, get some numbers and stay quit.
Charles
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Hello everyone. I am new so if I do not post in the right section... I apologize. To give a little background about myself...
I have chewed Skoal then Red Seal for a combined 20 years anywhere from 1/2 can to 1 1/2 can per day. My family wanted me to quit, asked me quit and even annoyed me with reminding me to quit. I never had that desire to quit. Honestly, just never wanted to. Then this past Saturday, my 13 year old son woke me up to go turkey hunting. I woke up, did my normal routine went about my business and prior to getting in the truck, I realized I didn't put my chew in as I normally do every morning. I said to myself, "Hey, I've already gone an hour, I wonder if I can go two". Before I knew it, cough drops, candy, gum and seeds have taken over and it is now Monday and no chew. I went and bought a can of Smokey Mountain.
Is what is odd is, within 5 minutes of waking up each day, I have a chew. Then literally the only time through the day I don't have a chew is when I am eating. It was really, really bad. I didn't make a concious decision to quit... I just got on this road by challenging myself 1 hour at a time. Now I am on my third day, yes I'm ready to scream. Yes I have two unopened cans in my truck. One I even opened and smelled the snuff but I know I can do it. I was getting a really bad craving but I started typing and it seems to be going away. Has anyone else just kinda fell into quitting like I did or am I just a wierd one? Oh, the other reason I am wanting to stay quit is I treated my family like crap over the weekend. They did not know I was quittting. I figured since I was a royal jerk and it has been 3 days... I might as well stay quit. but I will admit it sucks and I really dont know if I can do it.Â
Sorry for the ramble, this just helped me. cant explain it but it just helped.
Great work on the decision to quit chewing. First toss those cans, second find your quit group and then read and post on the site and lastly post roll call everyday promising the group and yourself that you will quit each day.
We all have various stories of quiting, but we all wind up the same spot, that we are addicted to the nicotine in chew and we were a slave to it everyday.
Stay strong, get some numbers and stay quit.
Charles
First of alll GET RID OF THE TWO CANS!!!
You can do this.
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"Fear and panic are two separate emotions, fear is healthy and panic is deadly" – Watched Chasing Mavericks this weekend. It’s a damn good movie. I just had a panic situation that maybe someone else might have. A buddy of mine opened a can in my office and the smell was almost too much to take. I felt the panic as my mouth watered and my mind begin to focus and justify caving “just this once.” It was very hard to ask him to put that shit away. I have a fear of caving and what that will lead to. I need to not panic and give that fear reality.
Nice win. I had the same fears. Really, I finally wanted to quit but at the same time I feared I couldn't beat addiction.
It may not work for all but Utah football of old...pissed me off! When the Utes game plan had them leading in the fourth. They would go to prevent defense. What the hell is that anyway? Fear of the big play so let them march down the field? Give up little plays but watch out for the big one? Screw that, punch em in the mouth and get the ball...with a lead!
I decided to steal the ball back from my captor, "Skoal anything" and go on offense. If I'm on offense, nicotine plays defense.
My offensive game plan. Talk the talk and these asses on the site will hold me accountable! I wrote fucking novels! I seriously took over the site to vent, and rage at tobacco and the damn UTS terrorist organization that is in plain site.
The more I trash talked tobacco and cavers, the more secure my promise to quit became.
Ihatecope: We all are different but KTC's plan of post roll, keep your word and repeat is fool proof if you follow it.
From there, make your gameplan. Mine is offense and throw the first punch at nicotine. Yours might be defense but have a strategy to post roll 100%, keep your word and repeat.
Crimes of passion usually are because of a false love. I have a crime of passion for nicotine. I thought I loved her but now, nothing would make me happier than someone calling her time of death and I killed her.
I'm dramatic but I have a gay big brother so give me some leniency. 'winker'
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New Blog Post: Brandy - JakeÂ’s Mint ChewÂ’s First Seasonal Offering
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/11/bran ... -offering/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/11/brandy-jakes-mint-chews-first-seasonal-offering/)
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Hey my brothers and sisters, I'm new here but proud to be a part. I'm sure with time I will learn to navigate this site and its associated forums. I need your help and your advice please. I know that I have quit permanently, in my mind. That was 6 days ago when I made that decision. At this point I have not even attempted, come close too, or thought for a second that caving was an option. It won't happen, I won't cave, I'm done, never again will tobacco be a part of my free will. I'm not struggling with the quit but I am in that fog. Pretty deep actually. And my precious moments with my porcelain partner are not going well. Lots of gas and not much consistence. Sorry! Your thoughts please?
For any of you that are thinking of quitting, I will tell you why I'm sure I won't cave... Not this time ....... I'm done!!!! I know because I would rather die than dip. That's what it took to make me stop. It's ironic because that is what I was doing, killing myself with poison. But now I have turned it around on the nic bitch, it's either her or me. One of us has to go, and it ain't going to be me.
Mogul
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Hey my brothers and sisters, I'm new here but proud to be a part. I'm sure with time I will learn to navigate this site and its associated forums. I need your help and your advice please. I know that I have quit permanently, in my mind. That was 6 days ago when I made that decision. At this point I have not even attempted, come close too, or thought for a second that caving was an option. It won't happen, I won't cave, I'm done, never again will tobacco be a part of my free will. I'm not struggling with the quit but I am in that fog. Pretty deep actually. And my precious moments with my porcelain partner are not going well. Lots of gas and not much consistence. Sorry! Your thoughts please?Â
For any of you that are thinking of quitting, I will tell you why I'm sure I won't cave...  Not this time ....... I'm done!!!!  I know because I would rather die than dip. That's what it took to make me stop. It's ironic because that is what I was doing, killing myself with poison. But now I have turned it around on the nic bitch, it's either her or me. One of us has to go, and it ain't going to be me.
Mogul
Mogul, welcome to the site and the beginning of the rest of your life. I strongly suggest you read everything in the Welcome Center tab up top there, then maneuver over to the main page, find the Introductions tab and write one up so as to introduce yerself proper-like. Oh, and nice job posting roll, keep it up.
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I will do the intro as soon as I'm back home and not on this iPad. Thanks to everybody for the support I have received. The first pages on the website are awesome, I read them daily. We should update as much as possible as to the effects of nicotine while in use and withdrawal. Facts about our addiction lead to facts about quitting. Glad I'm done with that crap
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For those of you that use sunflower seeds to fill your oral fixation void, what kind of seeds do you prefer? I've been rotating between the big 3 (original, bbq, ranch), but I've been looking for something new to try.
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Hey fellas, I have 20 cans of Jakes Mint chew. Spearmint and Wintergreen. I ordered it thinking about the oral fixes. However, I am cold turkey. Already dealt with cancer and not going to do it again.
If you would like this Jakes Chew I will be glad to mail it out. No charge. please send me a private message.
mogul
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For those of you that use sunflower seeds to fill your oral fixation void, what kind of seeds do you prefer? I've been rotating between the big 3 (original, bbq, ranch), but I've been looking for something new to try.
Dill pickle!
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Hey fellas, I have 20 cans of Jakes Mint chew. Spearmint and Wintergreen. I ordered it thinking about the oral fixes. However, I am cold turkey. Already dealt with cancer and not going to do it again.
If you would like this Jakes Chew I will be glad to mail it out. No charge. please send me a private message.
mogul
Don't go crazy and give it all away. Keep a can of fake in the car and one in the work bag just in case. I didn't use fake but had a tin of the fakes pouches in my work bag and I was thankful it was there a few times.
You may need it one day if your other quit tools become stale. It doesn't take up much space. It's just another safety net.
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I can't Evil Won, I can't. If I start inching towards dipping I will go all the way. I'm good with what I'm doing. I'm strong enough to handle it and it is just better for me that way. Hard headed, I am.
mogul
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I can't Evil Won, I can't. If I start inching towards dipping I will go all the way. I'm good with what I'm doing. I'm strong enough to handle it and it is just better for me that way. Hard headed, I am.Â
mogul
Settle down chief.
I didn't use the fake because I couldn't find it when I first quit. None of the usual places (Walmart) near me carry it. I dipped as a ninja and tried quitting as a ninja, so I couldn't go and order it online and have it shipped to my house where a very nosey Mrs Evil would open it and then start asking questions.
It was weeks into quitting that I found a mom-n-pop shop that sold it. I bought like 6 cans. Different brands and flavors. Too sweet, too waxy, etc. I figured ok, I've made it this far without the fake stuff so I'm going to continue without it. BUT these pouches burn like crazy, taste good, and leave my mouth minty fresh for hours. I'll keep these "just in case".
Two weeks ago, near day 375, I was on a week long business trip. I went to a local store and right there on the counter was the Smokey Mountain display (didn't have any pouches left. They were over 300 days old so I pitched them). The Bitch was whispering pretty loudly that week, "boring in a hotel room for a week isn't it? One dip? 762 miles to drive? Who would know?". I bought that can and told her to STFU, stat! I went back to the hotel and shoved half a can of fake into my yapper. It's tasted pretty good, packed nicely, burned too, and made a lot of spit.
That's when I freaked out. Those 4 characteristics of dipping were still "enjoyable" but the big one was missing...nicotine. I could tell something was missing. I felt that a quality fake was so similar to the real stuff that it was going to be a "gateway" for me to find that missing piece of the puzzle...real dip.
You know those old black and white moives they showed in grammar school, with that creepy voice over guy, that showed Johnny giving in to peer pressure and taking a hit off of a marijuanna cigarette and the next weekend he's naked on PCP, impregnating chicks in a huge orgy, and then trying to crawl through the roof of a squad car while a strobe light is flashing and Inagodadavidia is cranked up?
That would be me. I am an addict. When I commit to something I take it to the extreme instantly if not sooner.
So, yeah, for me the quality looseleaf fake was bad for many reasons, but the pouches were so unlike what I used and liked that it was ok for me. Bottom line is we are individuls. What works for some will not work for others. If something works for you do it until it no longer works, and then switch to another quit tool. The more tools you have the better off you will be.
Damn, I went off on a tangent. Sorry about that. Send me a PM if I can help you in any way.
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For those of you that use sunflower seeds to fill your oral fixation void, what kind of seeds do you prefer? I've been rotating between the big 3 (original, bbq, ranch), but I've been looking for something new to try.
Dill pickle!
Mmm. I completely forgot about dill pickle, I chewed them during high school baseball because I was the only guy on the team that liked them. Cheers B)
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Evil, I hear ya and I know you are correct. You might have went off on a tangent but I read every bit of it and understand where you are coming from. Thanks for the words.
mogul
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I can't Evil Won, I can't. If I start inching towards dipping I will go all the way. I'm good with what I'm doing. I'm strong enough to handle it and it is just better for me that way. Hard headed, I am.Â
mogul
Settle down chief.
I didn't use the fake because I couldn't find it when I first quit. None of the usual places (Walmart) near me carry it. I dipped as a ninja and tried quitting as a ninja, so I couldn't go and order it online and have it shipped to my house where a very nosey Mrs Evil would open it and then start asking questions.
It was weeks into quitting that I found a mom-n-pop shop that sold it. I bought like 6 cans. Different brands and flavors. Too sweet, too waxy, etc. I figured ok, I've made it this far without the fake stuff so I'm going to continue without it. BUT these pouches burn like crazy, taste good, and leave my mouth minty fresh for hours. I'll keep these "just in case".
Two weeks ago, near day 375, I was on a week long business trip. I went to a local store and right there on the counter was the Smokey Mountain display (didn't have any pouches left. They were over 300 days old so I pitched them). The Bitch was whispering pretty loudly that week, "boring in a hotel room for a week isn't it? One dip? 762 miles to drive? Who would know?". I bought that can and told her to STFU, stat! I went back to the hotel and shoved half a can of fake into my yapper. It's tasted pretty good, packed nicely, burned too, and made a lot of spit.
That's when I freaked out. Those 4 characteristics of dipping were still "enjoyable" but the big one was missing...nicotine. I could tell something was missing. I felt that a quality fake was so similar to the real stuff that it was going to be a "gateway" for me to find that missing piece of the puzzle...real dip.
You know those old black and white moives they showed in grammar school, with that creepy voice over guy, that showed Johnny giving in to peer pressure and taking a hit off of a marijuanna cigarette and the next weekend he's naked on PCP, impregnating chicks in a huge orgy, and then trying to crawl through the roof of a squad car while a strobe light is flashing and Inagodadavidia is cranked up?
That would be me. I am an addict. When I commit to something I take it to the extreme instantly if not sooner.
So, yeah, for me the quality looseleaf fake was bad for many reasons, but the pouches were so unlike what I used and liked that it was ok for me. Bottom line is we are individuls. What works for some will not work for others. If something works for you do it until it no longer works, and then switch to another quit tool. The more tools you have the better off you will be.
Damn, I went off on a tangent. Sorry about that. Send me a PM if I can help you in any way.
Now you know exactly why I never did fakie and never would. Rationalization is a strong suit of mine.
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I can't Evil Won, I can't. If I start inching towards dipping I will go all the way. I'm good with what I'm doing. I'm strong enough to handle it and it is just better for me that way. Hard headed, I am.Â
mogul
Settle down chief.
I didn't use the fake because I couldn't find it when I first quit. None of the usual places (Walmart) near me carry it. I dipped as a ninja and tried quitting as a ninja, so I couldn't go and order it online and have it shipped to my house where a very nosey Mrs Evil would open it and then start asking questions.
It was weeks into quitting that I found a mom-n-pop shop that sold it. I bought like 6 cans. Different brands and flavors. Too sweet, too waxy, etc. I figured ok, I've made it this far without the fake stuff so I'm going to continue without it. BUT these pouches burn like crazy, taste good, and leave my mouth minty fresh for hours. I'll keep these "just in case".
Two weeks ago, near day 375, I was on a week long business trip. I went to a local store and right there on the counter was the Smokey Mountain display (didn't have any pouches left. They were over 300 days old so I pitched them). The Bitch was whispering pretty loudly that week, "boring in a hotel room for a week isn't it? One dip? 762 miles to drive? Who would know?". I bought that can and told her to STFU, stat! I went back to the hotel and shoved half a can of fake into my yapper. It's tasted pretty good, packed nicely, burned too, and made a lot of spit.
That's when I freaked out. Those 4 characteristics of dipping were still "enjoyable" but the big one was missing...nicotine. I could tell something was missing. I felt that a quality fake was so similar to the real stuff that it was going to be a "gateway" for me to find that missing piece of the puzzle...real dip.
You know those old black and white moives they showed in grammar school, with that creepy voice over guy, that showed Johnny giving in to peer pressure and taking a hit off of a marijuanna cigarette and the next weekend he's naked on PCP, impregnating chicks in a huge orgy, and then trying to crawl through the roof of a squad car while a strobe light is flashing and Inagodadavidia is cranked up?
That would be me. I am an addict. When I commit to something I take it to the extreme instantly if not sooner.
So, yeah, for me the quality looseleaf fake was bad for many reasons, but the pouches were so unlike what I used and liked that it was ok for me. Bottom line is we are individuls. What works for some will not work for others. If something works for you do it until it no longer works, and then switch to another quit tool. The more tools you have the better off you will be.
Damn, I went off on a tangent. Sorry about that. Send me a PM if I can help you in any way.
Now you know exactly why I never did fakie and never would. Rationalization is a strong suit of mine.
Two sides to the argument -
I used fake daily from 0-60 but every time I used it, I said "this is only a crutch". Use it or don't but there other quit tools and to learn here and it starts by posting your promise every damn day.
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I can't Evil Won, I can't. If I start inching towards dipping I will go all the way. I'm good with what I'm doing. I'm strong enough to handle it and it is just better for me that way. Hard headed, I am.Â
mogul
Settle down chief.
I didn't use the fake because I couldn't find it when I first quit. None of the usual places (Walmart) near me carry it. I dipped as a ninja and tried quitting as a ninja, so I couldn't go and order it online and have it shipped to my house where a very nosey Mrs Evil would open it and then start asking questions.
It was weeks into quitting that I found a mom-n-pop shop that sold it. I bought like 6 cans. Different brands and flavors. Too sweet, too waxy, etc. I figured ok, I've made it this far without the fake stuff so I'm going to continue without it. BUT these pouches burn like crazy, taste good, and leave my mouth minty fresh for hours. I'll keep these "just in case".
Two weeks ago, near day 375, I was on a week long business trip. I went to a local store and right there on the counter was the Smokey Mountain display (didn't have any pouches left. They were over 300 days old so I pitched them). The Bitch was whispering pretty loudly that week, "boring in a hotel room for a week isn't it? One dip? 762 miles to drive? Who would know?". I bought that can and told her to STFU, stat! I went back to the hotel and shoved half a can of fake into my yapper. It's tasted pretty good, packed nicely, burned too, and made a lot of spit.
That's when I freaked out. Those 4 characteristics of dipping were still "enjoyable" but the big one was missing...nicotine. I could tell something was missing. I felt that a quality fake was so similar to the real stuff that it was going to be a "gateway" for me to find that missing piece of the puzzle...real dip.
You know those old black and white moives they showed in grammar school, with that creepy voice over guy, that showed Johnny giving in to peer pressure and taking a hit off of a marijuanna cigarette and the next weekend he's naked on PCP, impregnating chicks in a huge orgy, and then trying to crawl through the roof of a squad car while a strobe light is flashing and Inagodadavidia is cranked up?
That would be me. I am an addict. When I commit to something I take it to the extreme instantly if not sooner.
So, yeah, for me the quality looseleaf fake was bad for many reasons, but the pouches were so unlike what I used and liked that it was ok for me. Bottom line is we are individuls. What works for some will not work for others. If something works for you do it until it no longer works, and then switch to another quit tool. The more tools you have the better off you will be.
Damn, I went off on a tangent. Sorry about that. Send me a PM if I can help you in any way.
Now you know exactly why I never did fakie and never would. Rationalization is a strong suit of mine.
Two sides to the argument -
I used fake daily from 0-60 but every time I used it, I said "this is only a crutch". Use it or don't but there other quit tools and to learn here and it starts by posting your promise every damn day.
I used it up until (around) day 120. Didn't think twice about it because I was quit.
But then I realized that I quit not just because the stuff is poison. I quit because I didn't want to have that puffed out lip, stained teeth and hands, and having to spit. I closed the door on the fake stuff, and it was easy as there was no physical repercussions. I still have some cans at home, and I had some that I just tossed in my car that were all dried out. I've fallen back on it a few times (concerts with friends, ballgames with friends, out with friends) and it does bring that association back.
But it's still better than falling off the wagon for the real stuff.
If you started your quit without it, try to stay off of it. Use seeds, cherry pits, whatever to keep you occupied. Make sure that you plan and always have a good supply ready (especially if you are facing a trigger). We don't just fall into quit. We plan to be quit.
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I am traveling for work this week and staying in a hotel. So as an previous ninja chewer this reminder of previous bad habits and temptation is right up there with a long car ride or fishing.
But I am staying strong and almost halfway to the HOF.
Cheers - Idaho Spuds
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I am traveling for work this week and staying in a hotel. So as an previous ninja chewer this reminder of previous bad habits and temptation is right up there with a long car ride or fishing.
But I am staying strong and almost halfway to the HOF.
Cheers - Idaho Spuds
Proud of you! Stay strong!
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For those of you that use sunflower seeds to fill your oral fixation void, what kind of seeds do you prefer? I've been rotating between the big 3 (original, bbq, ranch), but I've been looking for something new to try.
Dill pickle!
Mmm. I completely forgot about dill pickle, I chewed them during high school baseball because I was the only guy on the team that liked them. Cheers B)
Jim Bean has got some seeds out there. They don't literally taste like whiskey but they're pretty good quality seeds
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For those of you that use sunflower seeds to fill your oral fixation void, what kind of seeds do you prefer? I've been rotating between the big 3 (original, bbq, ranch), but I've been looking for something new to try.
Dill pickle!
Mmm. I completely forgot about dill pickle, I chewed them during high school baseball because I was the only guy on the team that liked them. Cheers B)
Jim Bean has got some seeds out there. They don't literally taste like whiskey but they're pretty good quality seeds
Bigs has all sorts of flavors. My favorite is salt and vinegar. They have bacon, sea salt and black pepper, pickle, old bay seasoning and ranch. All of them are good
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I just started my quit I'm on day 23 and i started getting these headaches around day 15 i did some research and they said that this might happen. Does anyone else get this or is it not even dip related?
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I just started my quit I'm on day 23 and i started getting these headaches around day 15 i did some research and they said that this might happen. Does anyone else get this or is it not even dip related?
Welcome. KTC can offer a lot of wisdom and support; I encourage you to jump in with both feet. Two bits of advice first:
1) Check out the Welcome Center (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13). Read those 7 bits of wisdom to understand how we are, what we do, and how we do it.
2) Check out the What To Expect (http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/what-to-expect-when-you-quit-dipping/) section and you will see that what you are experiencing is common.
Don't undermine that you are "only" on day 23. That is quite an accomplishment, especially doing it without a support group. The mid twenties are the first known "funk". Lots of quitters feel the fog creep back in around this time. You have to fight through it. It gets better. Makes no sense to go back to being a slave now. Your blood is clean! It's just a mind-game that you can win.
So, read the Welcome Center (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13) and learn about Quit Groups and posting roll. Then get over to Pre HOF January 2014 Roll Call (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=8847) and get your name on Roll Call. Make that promise to not use nicotine today. Then come back and make that promise again tomorrow.
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For those of you that use sunflower seeds to fill your oral fixation void, what kind of seeds do you prefer? I've been rotating between the big 3 (original, bbq, ranch), but I've been looking for something new to try.
Dill pickle!
Mmm. I completely forgot about dill pickle, I chewed them during high school baseball because I was the only guy on the team that liked them. Cheers B)
Jim Bean has got some seeds out there. They don't literally taste like whiskey but they're pretty good quality seeds
Bigs has all sorts of flavors. My favorite is salt and vinegar. They have bacon, sea salt and black pepper, pickle, old bay seasoning and ranch. All of them are good
Bigs has a Frank's Red Hot flavor that's really good, there's a Chili and Lime flavor that I really like too.
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1) Check out the Welcome Center (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13). Read those 7 bits of wisdom to understand how we are, what we do, and how we do it.
7 bits of information, like juicy nuggets of quit stardom in the making...
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For those of you that use sunflower seeds to fill your oral fixation void, what kind of seeds do you prefer? I've been rotating between the big 3 (original, bbq, ranch), but I've been looking for something new to try.
Dill pickle!
Mmm. I completely forgot about dill pickle, I chewed them during high school baseball because I was the only guy on the team that liked them. Cheers B)
Jim Bean has got some seeds out there. They don't literally taste like whiskey but they're pretty good quality seeds
Bigs has all sorts of flavors. My favorite is salt and vinegar. They have bacon, sea salt and black pepper, pickle, old bay seasoning and ranch. All of them are good
Bigs has a Frank's Red Hot flavor that's really good, there's a Chili and Lime flavor that I really like too.
Bigs is starting to sound like my new brand of choice. Bacon, Frank's Red Hot, and chile and lime? Count me in.
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Hello....day 23 clean but new to sight....not sure how to use anything here but will try to learn....long time ninja dipper looking to be done for good ....1 day at a time seems to be working. I hope to share in everyone's success in being free
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For those of you that use sunflower seeds to fill your oral fixation void, what kind of seeds do you prefer? I've been rotating between the big 3 (original, bbq, ranch), but I've been looking for something new to try.
Dill pickle!
Mmm. I completely forgot about dill pickle, I chewed them during high school baseball because I was the only guy on the team that liked them. Cheers B)
Jim Bean has got some seeds out there. They don't literally taste like whiskey but they're pretty good quality seeds
Bigs has all sorts of flavors. My favorite is salt and vinegar. They have bacon, sea salt and black pepper, pickle, old bay seasoning and ranch. All of them are good
Bigs has a Frank's Red Hot flavor that's really good, there's a Chili and Lime flavor that I really like too.
Bigs is starting to sound like my new brand of choice. Bacon, Frank's Red Hot, and chile and lime? Count me in.
Man I missed out on the Franks red hot??? Never seen those before.......
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Hey I originally quit in December of 2010 and caved and have been dipping again for over a year. I'm wanting to find my old group and apologize for quitting on them and now I'm here with a dip in my mouth telling myself it's the last one and want to get back on track. How do i find them?
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Hello....day 23 clean but new to sight....not sure how to use anything here but will try to learn....long time ninja dipper looking to be done for good ....1 day at a time seems to be working. I hope to share in everyone's success in being free
Start by reading the Welcome Center. (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13) Then head over to Jan '14 and post roll. That is how we gain our freedom, one day at a time.
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I originally quit in i believe dec of 2010 i posted roll call everyday and did great for along time. To get to the point i caved and have been dipping for over a year actually not sure how long i have been dipping this time. I want to apologize to my old group but can't find them... At least not yet. But I'm sitting here with a dip in telling myself it's the last one... I hope it is I want to quit for myself and for my kids and wife especially my 4 year old boy who I don't want picking up this terrible habit from me.
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Hey I originally quit in December of 2010 and caved and have been dipping again for over a year. I'm wanting to find my old group and apologize for quitting on them and now I'm here with a dip in my mouth telling myself it's the last one and want to get back on track. How do i find them?
First, get rid of the carcinogenic crap stuffed in your lip and have some respect for yourself and the thousands here that quit each day. Maybe then click here (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=4085). If my math is right your hof group was March '11? Good luck!
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Hey I originally quit in December of 2010 and caved and have been dipping again for over a year. I'm wanting to find my old group and apologize for quitting on them and now I'm here with a dip in my mouth telling myself it's the last one and want to get back on track. How do i find them?
First, get rid of the carcinogenic crap stuffed in your lip and have some respect for yourself and the thousands here that quit each day. Maybe then click here (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=4085). If my math is right your hof group was March '11? Good luck!
I found them it was April 2011 and have already apologized to them and am starting over. I was not disrespecting anyone. Thanks for the help asshole.
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Hey I originally quit in December of 2010 and caved and have been dipping again for over a year. I'm wanting to find my old group and apologize for quitting on them and now I'm here with a dip in my mouth telling myself it's the last one and want to get back on track. How do i find them?
First, get rid of the carcinogenic crap stuffed in your lip and have some respect for yourself and the thousands here that quit each day. Maybe then click here (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=4085). If my math is right your hof group was March '11? Good luck!
I found them it was April 2011 and have already apologized to them and am starting over. I was not disrespecting anyone. Thanks for the help asshole.
Actually, I think you were. If you were a quitter here before you should know the rules. By coming in there admitting to a cave, while stating that you have a fatty in? That's bullshit. Post roll every day; gather support. Honor your word every day; earn respect. Welcome back.
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Hey I originally quit in December of 2010 and caved and have been dipping again for over a year. I'm wanting to find my old group and apologize for quitting on them and now I'm here with a dip in my mouth telling myself it's the last one and want to get back on track. How do i find them?
First, get rid of the carcinogenic crap stuffed in your lip and have some respect for yourself and the thousands here that quit each day. Maybe then click here (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=4085). If my math is right your hof group was March '11? Good luck!
I found them it was April 2011 and have already apologized to them and am starting over. I was not disrespecting anyone. Thanks for the help asshole.
Actually, I think you were. If you were a quitter here before you should know the rules. By coming in there admitting to a cave, while stating that you have a fatty in? That's bullshit. Post roll every day; gather support. Honor your word every day; earn respect. Welcome back.
I don't see any apology in April 11. I'm not impressed with your humility. And I agree Telling us you got a dip in while here entering into a discussion is truly disrespectful and even a half assed member of the forum would realize that.
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Hey I originally quit in December of 2010 and caved and have been dipping again for over a year. I'm wanting to find my old group and apologize for quitting on them and now I'm here with a dip in my mouth telling myself it's the last one and want to get back on track. How do i find them?
First, get rid of the carcinogenic crap stuffed in your lip and have some respect for yourself and the thousands here that quit each day. Maybe then click here (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=4085). If my math is right your hof group was March '11? Good luck!
I found them it was April 2011 and have already apologized to them and am starting over. I was not disrespecting anyone. Thanks for the help asshole.
Actually, I think you were. If you were a quitter here before you should know the rules. By coming in there admitting to a cave, while stating that you have a fatty in? That's bullshit. Post roll every day; gather support. Honor your word every day; earn respect. Welcome back.
I don't see any apology in April 11. I'm not impressed with your humility. And I agree Telling us you got a dip in while here entering into a discussion is truly disrespectful and even a half assed member of the forum would realize that.
Posting on KTC with a dip in your mouth is like standing for the national anthem with a hat on. Spit it the fuck out.
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Dear Wally, I took the time to read your post. I looked around the site for your old group, copied the link and came back here to try and help someone clearly struggling. Imagine what I'd do for someone who gave a shit about quitting? I was offended because this isn't easy for me every day but I make a simple promise. It's a boat load easier now but still...That promise is sacred to me because I could never keep it to myself. I could never do what you did to these assholes because they helped me spit it out 513 nights ago. Nor can I drift away just yet. In the words of another 'arse' if you can't post roll, you can always go 'Finger'. I'm going to leave you my number if you'd like to discuss this further. I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. Thanks.
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Dear Wally, I took the time to read your post. I looked around the site for your old group, copied the link and came back here to try and help someone clearly struggling. Imagine what I'd do for someone who gave a shit about quitting? I was offended because this isn't easy for me every day but I make a simple promise. It's a boat load easier now but still...That promise is sacred to me because I could never keep it to myself. I could never do what you did to these assholes because they helped me spit it out 513 nights ago. Nor can I drift away just yet. In the words of another 'arse' if you can't post roll, you can always go 'Finger'. I'm going to leave you my number if you'd like to discuss this further. I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. Thanks.
I went to April 11 seeing if Wally made it...nope.
I posted a 399 in that group today. Man, their commas look pretty cool. You can't even post a day 1 with them.
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Dear Wally, I took the time to read your post. I looked around the site for your old group, copied the link and came back here to try and help someone clearly struggling. Imagine what I'd do for someone who gave a shit about quitting? I was offended because this isn't easy for me every day but I make a simple promise. It's a boat load easier now but still...That promise is sacred to me because I could never keep it to myself. I could never do what you did to these assholes because they helped me spit it out 513 nights ago. Nor can I drift away just yet. In the words of another 'arse' if you can't post roll, you can always go 'Finger'. I'm going to leave you my number if you'd like to discuss this further. I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. Thanks.
I went to April 11 seeing if Wally made it...nope.
I posted a 399 in that group today. Man, their commas look pretty cool. You can't even post a day 1 with them.
Hey guys I'm sorry i accidentally posted in 2010 April quit group last night. I was not making up some BS story. And I wasn't trying to be disrespectful. I was back in my old pre-quit routine watching tv with a dip in before bed and I started thinking again like we all have about this will kill me if i don't stop. So I decided to get on here and look around a bit, right then and there i thought I should apologize for being a caver and start over. Then i accidentally posted my apology on the wrong year. My original group was April 2011 April fools bad ass quitters look for me i promise I was posting roll call their for a good while.
1- where I started my fuck up/cave i quit posting roll call like i was strong enough on my own... I wasn't.
2-i chose to put this death in my lip again knowing who all i was letting down I'm sorry to all if you.
3- i came here to start over and stir shit.
4- I could have started a new account like a pussy, but I wanted to do this like a man take my lumps and do this right this time.
Now I'm going to April 2011 April fools bad ass quitters and delivering my sincere apology. Sorry for any disrespect.
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Dear Wally, I took the time to read your post. I looked around the site for your old group, copied the link and came back here to try and help someone clearly struggling. Imagine what I'd do for someone who gave a shit about quitting? I was offended because this isn't easy for me every day but I make a simple promise. It's a boat load easier now but still...That promise is sacred to me because I could never keep it to myself. I could never do what you did to these assholes because they helped me spit it out 513 nights ago. Nor can I drift away just yet. In the words of another 'arse' if you can't post roll, you can always go 'Finger'. I'm going to leave you my number if you'd like to discuss this further. I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. Thanks.
I went to April 11 seeing if Wally made it...nope.
I posted a 399 in that group today. Man, their commas look pretty cool. You can't even post a day 1 with them.
Hey guys I'm sorry i accidentally posted in 2010 April quit group last night. I was not making up some BS story. And I wasn't trying to be disrespectful. I was back in my old pre-quit routine watching tv with a dip in before bed and I started thinking again like we all have about this will kill me if i don't stop. So I decided to get on here and look around a bit, right then and there i thought I should apologize for being a caver and start over. Then i accidentally posted my apology on the wrong year. My original group was April 2011 April fools bad ass quitters look for me i promise I was posting roll call their for a good while.
1- where I started my fuck up/cave i quit posting roll call like i was strong enough on my own... I wasn't.
2-i chose to put this death in my lip again knowing who all i was letting down I'm sorry to all if you.
3- i came here to start over and stir shit.
4- I could have started a new account like a pussy, but I wanted to do this like a man take my lumps and do this right this time.
Now I'm going to April 2011 April fools bad ass quitters and delivering my sincere apology. Sorry for any disrespect.
No need to apologize, Wally. Glad you're back.
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Hey, currently on day 1 and looking for possible chewing tobacco substitutes. Anyone personally quit after years of grizzly wintergreen? Loved the flavor and wondering if anyone had found a tobacco free alternative with a similar flavor. Or, any pleasant tasting tobacco substitute... I assume a majority will taste like cardboard.
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Hey, currently on day 1 and looking for possible chewing tobacco substitutes. Anyone personally quit after years of grizzly wintergreen? Loved the flavor and wondering if anyone had found a tobacco free alternative with a similar flavor. Or, any pleasant tasting tobacco substitute... I assume a majority will taste like cardboard.
Smokey Mountain Wintergreen tastes pretty good and is available at most Walmarts as well as online. Hooch Wintergreen is another one but is mostly available online.
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Hey, currently on day 1 and looking for possible chewing tobacco substitutes. Anyone personally quit after years of grizzly wintergreen? Loved the flavor and wondering if anyone had found a tobacco free alternative with a similar flavor. Or, any pleasant tasting tobacco substitute... I assume a majority will taste like cardboard.
Smokey Mountain Wintergreen tastes pretty good and is available at most Walmarts as well as online. Hooch Wintergreen is another one but is mostly available online.
Thanks!
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Hey, currently on day 1 and looking for possible chewing tobacco substitutes. Anyone personally quit after years of grizzly wintergreen? Loved the flavor and wondering if anyone had found a tobacco free alternative with a similar flavor. Or, any pleasant tasting tobacco substitute... I assume a majority will taste like cardboard.
Smokey Mountain Wintergreen tastes pretty good and is available at most Walmarts as well as online. Hooch Wintergreen is another one but is mostly available online.
Thanks!
Check out the Smokeless Alternatives (http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/smokeless-alternatives/) section with review, coupons, and where to buy.
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Hey, currently on day 1 and looking for possible chewing tobacco substitutes. Anyone personally quit after years of grizzly wintergreen? Loved the flavor and wondering if anyone had found a tobacco free alternative with a similar flavor. Or, any pleasant tasting tobacco substitute... I assume a majority will taste like cardboard.
Smokey Mountain Wintergreen tastes pretty good and is available at most Walmarts as well as online. Hooch Wintergreen is another one but is mostly available online.
Thanks!
Check out the Smokeless Alternatives (http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/smokeless-alternatives/) section with review, coupons, and where to buy.
I know it's only day 1 for me but chili lime Mexican candies seem to be very close to cope wintergreen.
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Day 4 'oh yeah'
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Day 4Â 'oh yeah'
Congrats Day 4 is Bad Ass.....Keep fighting the Good fight!!!!
Need anything PM me 24/7 .........ODAAT!!!!
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First timer! I want to quit. I've set dates to quit by, but this deadlines have come and gone. I'm wanting to do this for myself so that I can be a part of my kids lives and my wife won't have to kiss a man without a lip. I'm worried about quitting. Been doing this crap over 15 years.Haven't quit yet, but I'm close to being ready. How should I go about it? I have a full log in my truck. Do I finish what I've got and call it quits? It's like I'm losing a part of me. Hope I'm doing this right!
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First timer! I want to quit. I've set dates to quit by, but this deadlines have come and gone. I'm wanting to do this for myself so that I can be a part of my kids lives and my wife won't have to kiss a man without a lip. I'm worried about quitting. Been doing this crap over 15 years.Haven't quit yet, but I'm close to being ready. How should I go about it? I have a full log in my truck. Do I finish what I've got and call it quits? It's like I'm losing a part of me. Hope I'm doing this right!
Dump it all down the shitter, because that is where it belongs.
Read this (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13)
Then go post roll Jan '14 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=8847)
Holler if you need anything, trust me you can do this. You are not giving anything up, you are gaining your freedom.
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Hey y'all. Hope it's okay to post here. Getting used to figuring out this forum. Anyhow, On day 2. Woke up strongly doubting if I could do this. I have been up for an hour and a half now, no nic. The worst has passed. It is going to be a long day.
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Hey everyone,
Syndrome hits five years today in February 2009. Stop by and post with him on his half a decade of quit.
Here's a linky to make it easy:
index.php?showtopic=1905st=0 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=1905&st=0)
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Hey y'all. Hope it's okay to post here. Getting used to figuring out this forum. Anyhow, On day 2. Woke up strongly doubting if I could do this. I have been up for an hour and a half now, no nic. The worst has passed. It is going to be a long day.
Look at the post just below this one. Guy hit 5 years today. Stick around, post roll EVERY DAMN DAY and you too can succeed.
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Hey y'all. Hope it's okay to post here. Getting used to figuring out this forum. Anyhow, On day 2. Woke up strongly doubting if I could do this. I have been up for an hour and a half now, no nic. The worst has passed. It is going to be a long day.
Look at the post just below this one. Guy hit 5 years today. Stick around, post roll EVERY DAMN DAY and you too can succeed.
Yep, that was a temporary feeling that passed. I don't doubt myself, I just woke up with a fearful feeling. Doing good now, rolling through the day. Posted roll the second I got up, before coffee even.
Y'all can do one day at a time, right now, I am one hour at a time.
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First timer! I want to quit. I've set dates to quit by, but this deadlines have come and gone. I'm wanting to do this for myself so that I can be a part of my kids lives and my wife won't have to kiss a man without a lip. I'm worried about quitting. Been doing this crap over 15 years.Haven't quit yet, but I'm close to being ready. How should I go about it? I have a full log in my truck. Do I finish what I've got and call it quits? It's like I'm losing a part of me. Hope I'm doing this right!
Dump it all down the shitter, because that is where it belongs.
Read this (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13)
Then go post roll Jan '14 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=8847)
Holler if you need anything, trust me you can do this. You are not giving anything up, you are gaining your freedom.
You can't ease into a quit, like an old man into a warm bath. You have to DIVE into your quit, like a polar plunge into a frozen fucking lake. It's shocking at first but once it's done, it's done. We've all endured it, all been where you're at now.
Dump your stash and heed jbradleys instructions. Post roll with your quit group, get to know your quit brothers, both in your group and the vets on the site.
And make sure you quit for YOU, noone else. Quit for yourself, and let your loved ones enjoy the new, improved you.
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Hey y'all. Hope it's okay to post here. Getting used to figuring out this forum. Anyhow, On day 2. Woke up strongly doubting if I could do this. I have been up for an hour and a half now, no nic.  The worst has passed. It is going to be a long day.
Look at the post just below this one. Guy hit 5 years today. Stick around, post roll EVERY DAMN DAY and you too can succeed.
Yep, that was a temporary feeling that passed. I don't doubt myself, I just woke up with a fearful feeling. Doing good now, rolling through the day. Posted roll the second I got up, before coffee even.
Y'all can do one day at a time, right now, I am one hour at a time.
You got this Tx, remember to give me a txt or call if you get weak again. We can quit this shit together for good. One day at a time, today caving isn't an option.
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY !!!!
To:
RLB1966(47), burmie(38), ahfull(32), xxArcAngel(45), aren(19), Jman(41), husk81(45), eersguy(33), brandont1113(38)
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY !!!!
To:
RLB1966(47), burmie(38), ahfull(32), xxArcAngel(45), aren(19), Jman(41), husk81(45), eersguy(33), brandont1113(38)
Had a dream that I caved last night. Damn did I feel guilty when I woke up, still kind of do, weird. It also brought on the craves a little. Still staying strong day 15.
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You got this Tx, remember to give me a txt or call if you get weak again. We can quit this shit together for good. One day at a time, today caving isn't an option.
Yep, not an option. My daughter bought me radishes. Sliced, I get the burn. They fit in my cheek. we shall see how long they work, but for now, it is genius.
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Hey everyone,
Syndrome hits five years today in February 2009. Stop by and post with him on his half a decade of quit.
Here's a linky to make it easy:
index.php?showtopic=1905st=0 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=1905&st=0)
bump.
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You got this Tx, remember to give me a txt or call if you get weak again. We can quit this shit together for good. One day at a time, today caving isn't an option.
Yep, not an option. My daughter bought me radishes. Sliced, I get the burn. They fit in my cheek. we shall see how long they work, but for now, it is genius.
Glad to hear it, keep it up!!
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New Blog Post: Dip Free Deer Hunting Season - Share Your Pics!
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/11/dip- ... your-pics/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/11/dip-free-deer-hunting-season-share-your-pics/)
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You got this Tx, remember to give me a txt or call if you get weak again. We can quit this shit together for good. One day at a time, today caving isn't an option.
Yep, not an option. My daughter bought me radishes. Sliced, I get the burn. They fit in my cheek. we shall see how long they work, but for now, it is genius.
Glad to hear it, keep it up!!
Hi all....just gotta say today was a great day at day 24 clean.... Went pheasant hunting and stayed clean!! Stomped a few minor craves along the way....good hunt too!! Starting to see some light!! Now if the insomnia would ease off a bit more!
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Question. For me after meals was my favorite time to dip. Since I quit 15 days ago I feel a little depressed after meals and very unsatisfied. Anyone have any ideas to address this?
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Question. For me after meals was my favorite time to dip. Since I quit 15 days ago I feel a little depressed after meals and very unsatisfied. Anyone have any ideas to address this?
I would go walk my dog or run after meals, it helps me. Stay strong!!
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Question. For me after meals was my favorite time to dip. Since I quit 15 days ago I feel a little depressed after meals and very unsatisfied. Anyone have any ideas to address this?
I have found the same issue, after meals and in the shower are HORRIBLE. I try to exercise a little bit after a meal it seems to help. I am constantly chewing on something to try to stimulate my mouth/mind.
Best of luck and Keep it up!!
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Question. For me after meals was my favorite time to dip. Since I quit 15 days ago I feel a little depressed after meals and very unsatisfied. Anyone have any ideas to address this?
I have found the same issue, after meals and in the shower are HORRIBLE. I try to exercise a little bit after a meal it seems to help. I am constantly chewing on something to try to stimulate my mouth/mind.
Best of luck and Keep it up!!
Not that you can't post here, but a better place to have a conversation is in your quit group. It will help you get to know each other and when someone says something great...it'll be preserved in your group forever instead of buried in some general thread.
It will also be of benefit to those in your group who may have the same questions and concerns or who want to share in your victories.
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Pechacek notes that more than a fourth of white, male high school students report having used smokeless tobacco products in the last month. Overall, nearly 7% of all U.S. high school students already use smokeless tobacco.
Last I checked, most high school students graduate at the age of 18.
US Tobacco promotion to children is alive and real. They don't care if we quit or die. They are already replacing us. They are recruiting kids to replace the quitters or their dead and former consumers.
Think about it. 3% of the american populations chews tobacco. 7% of high schoolers chew.
Reasoning: they are addicting 4% more than the national average. This isn't by chance...its by design.
If we can get to the kids before UST can get to them, we can win this battle. It starts by quitting ourselves and not letting any child see us use or promote it.
Then we tell the truth! Never back down or shy away but stand and call bull shit on the UST companies, the buyout deal the government accepted and all the shame and sadness that is nicotine. Filthy, dirty business. Put a suit on Mr. CEO of UST's...you still reek of shame and disgust.
Seriously If I didn't care I would ignore but I can't stand the scum. I hate this weed and the justification of snakes that entice children.
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Not that you can't post here, but a better place to have a conversation is in your quit group. It will help you get to know each other and when someone says something great...it'll be preserved in your group forever instead of buried in some general thread.Â
It will also be of benefit to those in your group who may have the same questions and concerns or who want to share in your victories.
Thanks, I am still figuring this out. This info is very helpful. Keep up the quit.
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Question. For me after meals was my favorite time to dip. Since I quit 15 days ago I feel a little depressed after meals and very unsatisfied. Anyone have any ideas to address this?
I have found the same issue, after meals and in the shower are HORRIBLE. I try to exercise a little bit after a meal it seems to help. I am constantly chewing on something to try to stimulate my mouth/mind.
Best of luck and Keep it up!!
Not that you can't post here, but a better place to have a conversation is in your quit group. It will help you get to know each other and when someone says something great...it'll be preserved in your group forever instead of buried in some general thread.
It will also be of benefit to those in your group who may have the same questions and concerns or who want to share in your victories.
Alrighty Than ;)
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:D Hello Everyone,
I wanted to introduce myself as I have made the decision to quit the CAN. I actually made the decision about an hour ago and let my wife empty and throw away my last CAN.
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:D Hello Everyone,
I wanted to introduce myself as I have made the decision to quit the CAN. I actually made the decision about an hour ago and let my wife empty and throw away my last CAN.
Firstly,
THAT IS AN AWESOME DECISION!!
Hello Make a Post in the Introduction Section of the site and me and others will be quick to help you out :D
Visit the Welcome Center 'Sno' on over there now
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:D Hello Everyone,
I wanted to introduce myself as I have made the decision to quit the CAN. I actually made the decision about an hour ago and let my wife empty and throw away my last CAN.
Firstly,
THAT IS AN AWESOME DECISION!!
Hello Make a Post in the Introduction Section of the site and me and others will be quick to help you out :D
Visit the Welcome Center 'Sno' on over there now
That is a life-changing, Amazing decision. Like Ace said, get over to the welcome center, post and introduction, and post day 1 roll. This is an amazing group of people who really do care whether you come out of this alive.
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:D Hello Everyone,
I wanted to introduce myself as I have made the decision to quit the CAN. I actually made the decision about an hour ago and let my wife empty and throw away my last CAN.
Haven't heard anything from you? I hope you stayed strong and vigilant in your decision to quit
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Quick question....didn't know where to post it....getting my daily roll posted ok. Wondered where to connect with people... Does live chat work on I-phones? What's the best way to connect?? Thanks
25 days!
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Quick question....didn't know where to post it....getting my daily roll posted ok. Wondered where to connect with people... Does live chat work on I-phones? What's the best way to connect?? Thanks
25 days!
You are doing awesome in your quit, you can get in touch with me via text if you would like.
Check your inbox, you'll find my number there :D
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Quick question....didn't know where to post it....getting my daily roll posted ok. Wondered where to connect with people... Does live chat work on I-phones? What's the best way to connect?? Thanks
25 days!
You are doing awesome in your quit, you can get in touch with me via text if you would like.
Check your inbox, you'll find my number there :D
Live chat does work on your iphone (Link (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/05/mobile-chat-now-available/)).
Feel free to post the good, the bad, and the ugly all inside your group. Post it up in your intro. Text some quitters about it. I will tell you from experience that group has the most traffic so you will get the best responses there. You will probably also find 100 guys going through the same thing.
Keep up the good work. You can do this.
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Quick question....didn't know where to post it....getting my daily roll posted ok. Wondered where to connect with people... Does live chat work on I-phones? What's the best way to connect?? Thanks
25 days!
You are doing awesome in your quit, you can get in touch with me via text if you would like.
Check your inbox, you'll find my number there :D
Live chat does work on your iphone (Link (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/05/mobile-chat-now-available/)).
Feel free to post the good, the bad, and the ugly all inside your group. Post it up in your intro. Text some quitters about it. I will tell you from experience that group has the most traffic so you will get the best responses there. You will probably also find 100 guys going through the same thing.
Keep up the good work. You can do this.
How in th world can chat work on the iphones when I have three computers and none of them can get a connection to work on the chat???
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Quick question....didn't know where to post it....getting my daily roll posted ok. Wondered where to connect with people... Does live chat work on I-phones? What's the best way to connect?? Thanks
25 days!
You are doing awesome in your quit, you can get in touch with me via text if you would like.
Check your inbox, you'll find my number there :D
Live chat does work on your iphone (Link (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/05/mobile-chat-now-available/)).
Feel free to post the good, the bad, and the ugly all inside your group. Post it up in your intro. Text some quitters about it. I will tell you from experience that group has the most traffic so you will get the best responses there. You will probably also find 100 guys going through the same thing.
Keep up the good work. You can do this.
How in th world can chat work on the iphones when I have three computers and none of them can get a connection to work on the chat???
What browser are you using Gator?
At this point, the only issue I'm aware of with chat is with Internet Explorer. I can use any other device / browser with no issues.
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Quick question....didn't know where to post it....getting my daily roll posted ok. Wondered where to connect with people... Does live chat work on I-phones? What's the best way to connect?? Thanks
25 days!
You are doing awesome in your quit, you can get in touch with me via text if you would like.
Check your inbox, you'll find my number there :D
Live chat does work on your iphone (Link (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/05/mobile-chat-now-available/)).
Feel free to post the good, the bad, and the ugly all inside your group. Post it up in your intro. Text some quitters about it. I will tell you from experience that group has the most traffic so you will get the best responses there. You will probably also find 100 guys going through the same thing.
Keep up the good work. You can do this.
How in th world can chat work on the iphones when I have three computers and none of them can get a connection to work on the chat???
What browser are you using Gator?
At this point, the only issue I'm aware of with chat is with Internet Explorer. I can use any other device / browser with no issues.
I can't get into chat either. (Internet Explorer)
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This Discussion is Always rather DEAD it seems :lol:
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This Discussion is Always rather DEAD it seems :lol:
Start up a conversation in your group. Add a question of the day or some other nonsense. It's a good way to get to know your quit brothers and sisters. Form that brotherhood bond. It builds and strengthens accountability.
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This Discussion is Always rather DEAD it seems :lol:
Start up a conversation in your group. Add a question of the day or some other nonsense. It's a good way to get to know your quit brothers and sisters. Form that brotherhood bond. It builds and strengthens accountability.
We have a whole board to play on sir.
What be your pleasure?
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Look who's Number 1! (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?act=Members&max_results=10&sort_key=posts&sort_order=desc)
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Look who's Number 1! (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?act=Members&max_results=10&sort_key=posts&sort_order=desc)
well shit... looks like I've been slacking.
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Look who's Number 1! (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?act=Members&max_results=10&sort_key=posts&sort_order=desc)
well shit... looks like I've been slacking.
B)
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This Discussion is Always rather DEAD it seems :lol:
Start up a conversation in your group. Add a question of the day or some other nonsense. It's a good way to get to know your quit brothers and sisters. Form that brotherhood bond. It builds and strengthens accountability.
We have a whole board to play on sir.
What be your pleasure?
Be very wary of how you answer this question, Ace...it could be a trap. :blink:
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This Discussion is Always rather DEAD it seems :lol:
Start up a conversation in your group. Add a question of the day or some other nonsense. It's a good way to get to know your quit brothers and sisters. Form that brotherhood bond. It builds and strengthens accountability.
We have a whole board to play on sir.
What be your pleasure?
Be very wary of how you answer this question, Ace...it could be a trap. :blink:
I generally don my XXXXL captain marvel outfit and ululate in a hedonistic fit of victorious quititude when I am bored.... then again... even when I am not.
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New Blog Post: 7 Years Of Quit For KillTheCan.org
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/11/7-ye ... hecan-org/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/11/7-years-of-quit-for-killthecan-org/)
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This Discussion is Always rather DEAD it seems :lol:
Start up a conversation in your group. Add a question of the day or some other nonsense. It's a good way to get to know your quit brothers and sisters. Form that brotherhood bond. It builds and strengthens accountability.
We have a whole board to play on sir.
What be your pleasure?
Be very wary of how you answer this question, Ace...it could be a trap. :blink:
I generally don my XXXXL captain marvel outfit and ululate in a hedonistic fit of victorious quititude when I am bored.... then again... even when I am not.
(http://gifatron.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/its_a_trap.gif)
EDIT: Apparently it doesn't want me posting GIFs 'bang head'
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This Discussion is Always rather DEAD it seems :lol:
Start up a conversation in your group. Add a question of the day or some other nonsense. It's a good way to get to know your quit brothers and sisters. Form that brotherhood bond. It builds and strengthens accountability.
We have a whole board to play on sir.
What be your pleasure?
Be very wary of how you answer this question, Ace...it could be a trap. :blink:
I generally don my XXXXL captain marvel outfit and ululate in a hedonistic fit of victorious quititude when I am bored.... then again... even when I am not.
maybe a trap (http://gifatron.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/its_a_trap.gif)
EDIT: Apparently it doesn't want me posting GIFs 'bang head'
maybe that will 'fix' your gif problem 'links only' can't embed a gif or image unless you have LooT powers
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This Discussion is Always rather DEAD it seems :lol:
Start up a conversation in your group. Add a question of the day or some other nonsense. It's a good way to get to know your quit brothers and sisters. Form that brotherhood bond. It builds and strengthens accountability.
We have a whole board to play on sir.
What be your pleasure?
Be very wary of how you answer this question, Ace...it could be a trap. :blink:
I generally don my XXXXL captain marvel outfit and ululate in a hedonistic fit of victorious quititude when I am bored.... then again... even when I am not.
maybe a trap (http://gifatron.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/its_a_trap.gif)
EDIT: Apparently it doesn't want me posting GIFs 'bang head'
maybe that will 'fix' your gif problem 'links only' can't embed a gif or image unless you have LooT powers
Not even LooT can embed images.
We just make cool emoticons. 'zombie'
:j2b:
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This Discussion is Always rather DEAD it seems :lol:
Start up a conversation in your group. Add a question of the day or some other nonsense. It's a good way to get to know your quit brothers and sisters. Form that brotherhood bond. It builds and strengthens accountability.
We have a whole board to play on sir.
What be your pleasure?
Be very wary of how you answer this question, Ace...it could be a trap. :blink:
I generally don my XXXXL captain marvel outfit and ululate in a hedonistic fit of victorious quititude when I am bored.... then again... even when I am not.
maybe a trap (http://gifatron.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/its_a_trap.gif)
EDIT: Apparently it doesn't want me posting GIFs 'bang head'
maybe that will 'fix' your gif problem 'links only' can't embed a gif or image unless you have LooT powers
Not even LooT can embed images.
We just make cool emoticons. 'zombie'
:j2b:
And some not so cool. _
:NOLAQ:
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FROM YESTERDAY's 7th KTC BIRTHDAY THREAD
This thread was open for one day only...
For those of you that don't know, KillTheCan.org was "born" seven years ago on November 20th, 2006.
KillTheCan.org is going strong (over 17,000 members to date!) and shows absolutely no sign of slowing down. We've added over 3,500 members in the past year!
For proof positive that this works, check out the following roll call. It represents a TON of quitting.
139,829 DAYS quit (Only counting those who posted a number)
383.09 YEARS quit
These are absolutely AMAZING numbers folks... bravo!
Spread the word about KTC. You are not only saving your own life, you are saving countless others, and FUCKING UST tobacco one loooong stroke at a time.
Finally...there are other quit sites out there... but not one has the fire power of KillTheCan.org. They can copy all they want... But in the words of the immortal Ric Flair, we say this:Whether you like it or not, learn to love it, because its the best thing going. Wooooo!
Here's to many more years. Be proud people...be very proud!
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This Discussion is Always rather DEAD it seems :lol:
Start up a conversation in your group. Add a question of the day or some other nonsense. It's a good way to get to know your quit brothers and sisters. Form that brotherhood bond. It builds and strengthens accountability.
We have a whole board to play on sir.
What be your pleasure?
Be very wary of how you answer this question, Ace...it could be a trap. :blink:
I generally don my XXXXL captain marvel outfit and ululate in a hedonistic fit of victorious quititude when I am bored.... then again... even when I am not.
maybe a trap (http://gifatron.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/its_a_trap.gif)
EDIT: Apparently it doesn't want me posting GIFs 'bang head'
maybe that will 'fix' your gif problem 'links only' can't embed a gif or image unless you have LooT powers
Not even LooT can embed images.
We just make cool emoticons. 'zombie'
:j2b:
And some not so cool. _
:NOLAQ:
Yet never cease to be funny ^^^^ 'I'm with stupid' ^^^^
P.S The Smithsonian called and wanted to know if they can borrow your printer for display.
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This Discussion is Always rather DEAD it seems :lol:
Start up a conversation in your group. Add a question of the day or some other nonsense. It's a good way to get to know your quit brothers and sisters. Form that brotherhood bond. It builds and strengthens accountability.
We have a whole board to play on sir.
What be your pleasure?
Be very wary of how you answer this question, Ace...it could be a trap. :blink:
I generally don my XXXXL captain marvel outfit and ululate in a hedonistic fit of victorious quititude when I am bored.... then again... even when I am not.
maybe a trap (http://gifatron.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/its_a_trap.gif)
EDIT: Apparently it doesn't want me posting GIFs 'bang head'
maybe that will 'fix' your gif problem 'links only' can't embed a gif or image unless you have LooT powers
Not even LooT can embed images.
We just make cool emoticons. 'zombie'
:j2b:
And some not so cool. _
:NOLAQ:
Yet never cease to be funny ^^^^ 'I'm with stupid' ^^^^
P.S The Smithsonian called and wanted to know if they can borrow your printer for display.
I think they printed the Gutenburg bible on it if I'm not mistaken..........
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FROM YESTERDAY's 7th KTC BIRTHDAY THREAD
This thread was open for one day only...
For those of you that don't know, KillTheCan.org was "born" seven years ago on November 20th, 2006.
KillTheCan.org is going strong (over 17,000 members to date!) and shows absolutely no sign of slowing down. We've added over 3,500 members in the past year!
For proof positive that this works, check out the following roll call. It represents a TON of quitting.
139,829 DAYS quit (Only counting those who posted a number)
383.09 YEARS quit
These are absolutely AMAZING numbers folks... bravo!
Spread the word about KTC. You are not only saving your own life, you are saving countless others, and FUCKING UST tobacco one loooong stroke at a time.
Finally...there are other quit sites out there... but not one has the fire power of KillTheCan.org. They can copy all they want... But in the words of the immortal Ric Flair, we say this:Whether you like it or not, learn to love it, because its the best thing going. Wooooo!
Here's to many more years. Be proud people...be very proud!
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General quit discussion, questions, answers, etc.
Guests looking to quit looking for answers are welcome.
I have been dipping since the age of 11, now 30. My wife has been hounding me for the last 6 years to quit dipping. I have been an undercover/ninja dipper for the past 2 years (only dipping at work) and ready to kick this crap. I am tired of wasting the money, I am tired of my wife bugging me, and I don't want to DIE over such a habit. But I know I will need help so I reached out to my ol' friend google and he lead me to you guys. Must be destiny. but I know I will need help.
I am looking for a support group as I am in the Army (15 years and going strong) and all the guys around me keep saying "no one likes a quitter". PLEASE LEAD ME IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION!
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I have been dipping since the age of 11, now 30. My wife has been hounding me for the last 6 years to quit dipping. I have been an undercover/ninja dipper for the past 2 years (only dipping at work) and ready to kick this crap. I am tired of wasting the money, I am tired of my wife bugging me, and I don't want to DIE over such a habit. But I know I will need help so I reached out to my ol' friend google and he lead me to you guys. Must be destiny. but I know I will need help.
I am looking for a support group as I am in the Army (15 years and going strong) and all the guys around me keep saying "no one likes a quitter". PLEASE LEAD ME IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION!
Well brother glad you found us. Now first I want you to decide that you need to quit otherwise this will never work. It is great that your spouse wants to see you quit but you need to want it first and foremost.
Now read up the info on the site Welcome Center (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13)
Learn how to post roll How to Post Roll (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50)
Then post Roll here Pre-HOF March 2014 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=9121)
Post Roll daily. This is your promise to stay quit, understand that KTC is all about brotherhood and Accountability. Make sure that these words mean something to you. Also understand that all of us quitters care so when a cave happens people will take that shit personally. We invest time into people and the quit groups are like tight families of quit.
Finally, I recommend that you find an alternative, fake dip, candy, gum, mints, etc. Drink lots of water, so much that you cannot pass a bathroom without having to piss.
P.S. All of the above underlined words are links to the site.
Let's do this soldier,
Pinched
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Ok, I give up. What does TIFFS mean? Usually it follows a funny post, but for the life of me I can't figure it out.
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Ok, I give up. What does TIFFS mean? Usually it follows a funny post, but for the life of me I can't figure it out.
That is Fuckin' Funny Shit.
'crackup'
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Ok, I give up. What does TIFFS mean? Usually it follows a funny post, but for the life of me I can't figure it out.
That is Fuckin' Funny Shit.
'crackup'
Good on you Sir!
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General quit discussion, questions, answers, etc.
Guests looking to quit looking for answers are welcome.
I have been dipping since the age of 11, now 30. My wife has been hounding me for the last 6 years to quit dipping. I have been an undercover/ninja dipper for the past 2 years (only dipping at work) and ready to kick this crap. I am tired of wasting the money, I am tired of my wife bugging me, and I don't want to DIE over such a habit. But I know I will need help so I reached out to my ol' friend google and he lead me to you guys. Must be destiny. but I know I will need help.
I am looking for a support group as I am in the Army (15 years and going strong) and all the guys around me keep saying "no one likes a quitter". PLEASE LEAD ME IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION!
Hey bro, check your inbox. I sent you a PM. Look up towards the top. To the right of where it says My Controls. Lets get quittn !!!
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FROM YESTERDAY's 7th KTC BIRTHDAY THREAD
This thread was open for one day only...
For those of you that don't know, KillTheCan.org was "born" seven years ago on November 20th, 2006.
KillTheCan.org is going strong (over 17,000 members to date!) and shows absolutely no sign of slowing down. We've added over 3,500 members in the past year!
For proof positive that this works, check out the following roll call. It represents a TON of quitting.
139,829 DAYS quit (Only counting those who posted a number)
383.09 YEARS quit
These are absolutely AMAZING numbers folks... bravo!
Spread the word about KTC. You are not only saving your own life, you are saving countless others, and FUCKING UST tobacco one loooong stroke at a time.
Finally...there are other quit sites out there... but not one has the fire power of KillTheCan.org. They can copy all they want... But in the words of the immortal Ric Flair, we say this:Whether you like it or not, learn to love it, because its the best thing going. Wooooo!
Here's to many more years. Be proud people...be very proud!
WOW !!! Those are some impressive numbers. Thanks again KTC. I seriously had given up on being quit. This ? This works. Happy Birthday and glad you were born. Quit On !!!
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Hey all, anyone out there have any unique Turkey day traditions?
Anyone actually do the Turducken (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turducken)?
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Fake Chew
So I've been using fake chew now for the 5 days I've been quit and it's been working really well for me. I get a crave and just pop one of those bad boys in and I'm pretty much good to go. I honestly think that aside from KTC the fake chew has been the key ingredient to my quit so far.
My question is, does there come a time when the fake dip becomes a continuation of the original crutch rather than a tool to fight the cravings? What is the time frame for this? My current plan is to transition from the fake chew to those minty white lifesavers, or something that won't stain my teeth so I can get the whitened.
Just wondering what some others have experienced with this.
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Fake Chew
So I've been using fake chew now for the 5 days I've been quit and it's been working really well for me. I get a crave and just pop one of those bad boys in and I'm pretty much good to go. I honestly think that aside from KTC the fake chew has been the key ingredient to my quit so far.
My question is, does there come a time when the fake dip becomes a continuation of the original crutch rather than a tool to fight the cravings? What is the time frame for this? My current plan is to transition from the fake chew to those minty white lifesavers, or something that won't stain my teeth so I can get the whitened.
Just wondering what some others have experienced with this.
First things first....congratulation mtn. PUSHING through the suck is something only few can accomplish. Continue to post roll daily and connect with KTC.
Fake is fake. I know of only 1 long-time quitter who still uses it regularly. So, maybe it is a crutch to him. But who gives a fuck? Right? I mean, You are actively quitting one of the most addictive poisons known to man. If you need to use fake, then use it. Especially, this early into your quit.
Personally, I used EVERYTHING:
Every type of Fake (SMJ, hooch, jakes, oregon, the alfalfa stuff, the sea coral stuff, etc)
Lifesavers
Jolly Ranchers
Tea
Coffee
Ginger
Seeds
Gently Used Panties (the salty and tangy flavors were the best, I did not enjoy the onion gravy flavor)
Beef Jerky
Toothpicks
Starbucks stirrers
Probably some others that I can't think of right now.
So to answer your question - use whatever it takes to not stuff your piehole full of cancer. There will be a time in future when you will grow tired of the Fake. You'll just not need it anymore.
Once again, the most important thing right now is TO NOT PUT A HOG OF CANCER IN YOUR LIP today.
Vadge
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Hey all, anyone out there have any unique Turkey day traditions?
Anyone actually do the Turducken (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turducken)?
Great question!
No Turducken, but this year we will be doing 3 separate birds.
22lb oven roasted
13lb fried (with Cajun injection)
12lb smoked
My folks have been hosting Thanksgiving for as long as I can remember, and for the past 6-7 years they've had both my family as well as my in-laws / family. We're lucky in that (with the exception of politics) we all get along very well so it's a great way to spend the day.
chewie
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Fake Chew
So I've been using fake chew now for the 5 days I've been quit and it's been working really well for me. I get a crave and just pop one of those bad boys in and I'm pretty much good to go. I honestly think that aside from KTC the fake chew has been the key ingredient to my quit so far.
My question is, does there come a time when the fake dip becomes a continuation of the original crutch rather than a tool to fight the cravings? What is the time frame for this? My current plan is to transition from the fake chew to those minty white lifesavers, or something that won't stain my teeth so I can get the whitened.
Just wondering what some others have experienced with this.
First things first....congratulation mtn. PUSHING through the suck is something only few can accomplish. Continue to post roll daily and connect with KTC.
Fake is fake. I know of only 1 long-time quitter who still uses it regularly. So, maybe it is a crutch to him. But who gives a fuck? Right? I mean, You are actively quitting one of the most addictive poisons known to man. If you need to use fake, then use it. Especially, this early into your quit.
Personally, I used EVERYTHING:
Every type of Fake (SMJ, hooch, jakes, oregon, the alfalfa stuff, the sea coral stuff, etc)
Lifesavers
Jolly Ranchers
Tea
Coffee
Ginger
Seeds
Gently Used Panties (the salty and tangy flavors were the best, I did not enjoy the onion gravy flavor)
Beef Jerky
Toothpicks
Starbucks stirrers
Probably some others that I can't think of right now.
So to answer your question - use whatever it takes to not stuff your piehole full of cancer. There will be a time in future when you will grow tired of the Fake. You'll just not need it anymore.
Once again, the most important thing right now is TO NOT PUT A HOG OF CANCER IN YOUR LIP today.
Vadge
Yup... agreed. They're tools... use them.
Personally, I chewed a can/day of the fake for a good 220 days or so into my quit. Then, one day... I just didn't reach for it anymore. Now I never touch the stuff unless I'm doing a product review.
For the time being, use all the tools at your disposal. I've often said that I'd rather chew a can/day of the fake stuff for the rest of my life than ever have another dip of Kodiak.
chewie
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Fake Chew
So I've been using fake chew now for the 5 days I've been quit and it's been working really well for me. I get a crave and just pop one of those bad boys in and I'm pretty much good to go. I honestly think that aside from KTC the fake chew has been the key ingredient to my quit so far.
My question is, does there come a time when the fake dip becomes a continuation of the original crutch rather than a tool to fight the cravings? What is the time frame for this? My current plan is to transition from the fake chew to those minty white lifesavers, or something that won't stain my teeth so I can get the whitened.
Just wondering what some others have experienced with this.
First things first....congratulation mtn. PUSHING through the suck is something only few can accomplish. Continue to post roll daily and connect with KTC.
Fake is fake. I know of only 1 long-time quitter who still uses it regularly. So, maybe it is a crutch to him. But who gives a fuck? Right? I mean, You are actively quitting one of the most addictive poisons known to man. If you need to use fake, then use it. Especially, this early into your quit.
Personally, I used EVERYTHING:
Every type of Fake (SMJ, hooch, jakes, oregon, the alfalfa stuff, the sea coral stuff, etc)
Lifesavers
Jolly Ranchers
Tea
Coffee
Ginger
Seeds
Gently Used Panties (the salty and tangy flavors were the best, I did not enjoy the onion gravy flavor)
Beef Jerky
Toothpicks
Starbucks stirrers
Probably some others that I can't think of right now.
So to answer your question - use whatever it takes to not stuff your piehole full of cancer. There will be a time in future when you will grow tired of the Fake. You'll just not need it anymore.
Once again, the most important thing right now is TO NOT PUT A HOG OF CANCER IN YOUR LIP today.
Vadge
Mt,
I am currently 82 days in. I relied heavily on the fake stuff for the first 30 or so days of my quit. At around the 30 day mark, I didn't feel the need to continue using it as much, and now it's only used at desperate times, or when I'm out of seeds. Keep up the good fight. Anything that you can stick in there to keep the dip out is a victory in my book. Except panties, no...especially panties.
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Fake Chew
So I've been using fake chew now for the 5 days I've been quit and it's been working really well for me. I get a crave and just pop one of those bad boys in and I'm pretty much good to go. I honestly think that aside from KTC the fake chew has been the key ingredient to my quit so far.
My question is, does there come a time when the fake dip becomes a continuation of the original crutch rather than a tool to fight the cravings? What is the time frame for this? My current plan is to transition from the fake chew to those minty white lifesavers, or something that won't stain my teeth so I can get the whitened.
Just wondering what some others have experienced with this.
First things first....congratulation mtn. PUSHING through the suck is something only few can accomplish. Continue to post roll daily and connect with KTC.
Fake is fake. I know of only 1 long-time quitter who still uses it regularly. So, maybe it is a crutch to him. But who gives a fuck? Right? I mean, You are actively quitting one of the most addictive poisons known to man. If you need to use fake, then use it. Especially, this early into your quit.
Personally, I used EVERYTHING:
Every type of Fake (SMJ, hooch, jakes, oregon, the alfalfa stuff, the sea coral stuff, etc)
Lifesavers
Jolly Ranchers
Tea
Coffee
Ginger
Seeds
Gently Used Panties (the salty and tangy flavors were the best, I did not enjoy the onion gravy flavor)
Beef Jerky
Toothpicks
Starbucks stirrers
Probably some others that I can't think of right now.
So to answer your question - use whatever it takes to not stuff your piehole full of cancer. There will be a time in future when you will grow tired of the Fake. You'll just not need it anymore.
Once again, the most important thing right now is TO NOT PUT A HOG OF CANCER IN YOUR LIP today.
Vadge
Mt,
I am currently 82 days in. I relied heavily on the fake stuff for the first 30 or so days of my quit. At around the 30 day mark, I didn't feel the need to continue using it as much, and now it's only used at desperate times, or when I'm out of seeds. Keep up the good fight. Anything that you can stick in there to keep the dip out is a victory in my book. Except panties, no...especially panties.
Hello everyone! I just found my way to your website. I'm on Day 0 of quitting. I've quit several times before, but it never took. Long drives or a bout of military reserve duty always helped me find my way back to the can. So Today I'm making my first big push in a long time. And this time I'm going to do it! Here's my plan:
1. I know this is a cheap gimmick - but for me this works - Start on a Holiday weekend. (my family is going to LOVE me tomorrow..lol) I've often found that when I'm around my family all day on the weekend i can easily go without Dip. So I'm going to "game it" for a 4 day weekend.
2. I never tried Fake Dip before, so I just ordered some SM. (rush delivery..lol) Usually I just did the patch or the gum. After multiple attempts at quitting, I know they wont work for me. If I don't go "cold turkey" on nicotene its not going to work.
3. check in on this website. None of my friends are the right people to talk about quitting. (most would just give me a dip..lol)
I'll be talking/ ranting/ yelling at everyone soon, so let me apologize in advance. I should be civil again in a week or 2.
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Hello everyone! I just found my way to your website. I'm on Day 0 of quitting. I've quit several times before, but it never took. Long drives or a bout of military reserve duty always helped me find my way back to the can. So Today I'm making my first big push in a long time. And this time I'm going to do it! Here's my plan:
1. I know this is a cheap gimmick - but for me this works - Start on a Holiday weekend. (my family is going to LOVE me tomorrow..lol) I've often found that when I'm around my family all day on the weekend i can easily go without Dip. So I'm going to "game it" for a 4 day weekend.
2. I never tried Fake Dip before, so I just ordered some SM. (rush delivery..lol) Usually I just did the patch or the gum. After multiple attempts at quitting, I know they wont work for me. If I don't go "cold turkey" on nicotene its not going to work.
3. check in on this website. None of my friends are the right people to talk about quitting. (most would just give me a dip..lol)
I'll be talking/ ranting/ yelling at everyone soon, so let me apologize in advance. I should be civil again in a week or 2.
Hi. First, you never Quit before. I expect you to Quit now.
Next, we donÂ’t use tricks or gimmicks here. We are stone cold and laser focused. The sooner you dump your flippant attitude and accept that this is life or death, the better your chance of success.
Cold turkey is the only method here, so grab your sack and letÂ’s get to it.
Finally, we don’t ‘check in’ here. We post roll. Every. Damn. Day. There are no excuses, and we don’t take holidays or weekends off.
If youÂ’re in, youÂ’re balls deep. We donÂ’t half step and we donÂ’t accept excuses.
Now, I suggest you find your group, post Roll, and keep the cat turd out of your mouth. If you need a number to check in with someone, PM me, and IÂ’ll reach out.
Remember, your family does NOT understand what youÂ’re going through. We do. DonÂ’t go off on them, itÂ’s not their fault you were an idiot and poisoned yourself for how ever many years you did, but thatÂ’s over. Today you Quit.
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Hello everyone! I just found my way to your website. I'm on Day 0 of quitting. I've quit several times before, but it never took. Long drives or a bout of military reserve duty always helped me find my way back to the can. So Today I'm making my first big push in a long time. And this time I'm going to do it! Here's my plan:
1. I know this is a cheap gimmick - but for me this works - Start on a Holiday weekend. (my family is going to LOVE me tomorrow..lol) I've often found that when I'm around my family all day on the weekend i can easily go without Dip. So I'm going to "game it" for a 4 day weekend.
2. I never tried Fake Dip before, so I just ordered some SM. (rush delivery..lol) Usually I just did the patch or the gum. After multiple attempts at quitting, I know they wont work for me. If I don't go "cold turkey" on nicotene its not going to work.
3. check in on this website. None of my friends are the right people to talk about quitting. (most would just give me a dip..lol)
I'll be talking/ ranting/ yelling at everyone soon, so let me apologize in advance. I should be civil again in a week or 2.
Hi. First, you never Quit before. I expect you to Quit now.
Next, we donÂ’t use tricks or gimmicks here. We are stone cold and laser focused. The sooner you dump your flippant attitude and accept that this is life or death, the better your chance of success.
Cold turkey is the only method here, so grab your sack and letÂ’s get to it.
Finally, we don’t ‘check in’ here. We post roll. Every. Damn. Day. There are no excuses, and we don’t take holidays or weekends off.
If youÂ’re in, youÂ’re balls deep. We donÂ’t half step and we donÂ’t accept excuses.
Now, I suggest you find your group, post Roll, and keep the cat turd out of your mouth. If you need a number to check in with someone, PM me, and IÂ’ll reach out.
Remember, your family does NOT understand what youÂ’re going through. We do. DonÂ’t go off on them, itÂ’s not their fault you were an idiot and poisoned yourself for how ever many years you did, but thatÂ’s over. Today you Quit.
Randy I see you joined almost 3 years ago wouldn't it have been great to have grown that set of nuts back then? Well the past is the past if your down there in the bottom of the barrel really serious about quitting you can do this. It's gonna be damn hard and will take all you have and a lot of outside help from other addicts that have and are going through the same thing. Posting roll isn't optional, get it done and read all you can if your serious!
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Fake Chew
So I've been using fake chew now for the 5 days I've been quit and it's been working really well for me. I get a crave and just pop one of those bad boys in and I'm pretty much good to go. I honestly think that aside from KTC the fake chew has been the key ingredient to my quit so far.
My question is, does there come a time when the fake dip becomes a continuation of the original crutch rather than a tool to fight the cravings? What is the time frame for this? My current plan is to transition from the fake chew to those minty white lifesavers, or something that won't stain my teeth so I can get the whitened.
Just wondering what some others have experienced with this.
I've yet to meet a fake chew addict. Just joking. No, seriously. I used Smokey Mountain in the past before I quit and I've been using it during my quit. Love it. Don't know how I would have made it without it. But that's me. I'm almost in the Hall and I now don't use it nearly like I did when I began. Don't sweat it at all. It's not nicotine and the use of it will naturally taper off. Although I did read a story about a guy that at over a year of quit one day a random killer crave popped up out of nowhere. He happened to have a can of SM in the pickup. He grabbed it and killed the crave. So I plan on never being without it for quite a while. Just my 2 cents.
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Fake Chew
So I've been using fake chew now for the 5 days I've been quit and it's been working really well for me. I get a crave and just pop one of those bad boys in and I'm pretty much good to go. I honestly think that aside from KTC the fake chew has been the key ingredient to my quit so far.
My question is, does there come a time when the fake dip becomes a continuation of the original crutch rather than a tool to fight the cravings? What is the time frame for this? My current plan is to transition from the fake chew to those minty white lifesavers, or something that won't stain my teeth so I can get the whitened.
Just wondering what some others have experienced with this.
I've yet to meet a fake chew addict. Just joking. No, seriously. I used Smokey Mountain in the past before I quit and I've been using it during my quit. Love it. Don't know how I would have made it without it. But that's me. I'm almost in the Hall and I now don't use it nearly like I did when I began. Don't sweat it at all. It's not nicotine and the use of it will naturally taper off. Although I did read a story about a guy that at over a year of quit one day a random killer crave popped up out of nowhere. He happened to have a can of SM in the pickup. He grabbed it and killed the crave. So I plan on never being without it for quite a while. Just my 2 cents.
I bought one can of it, threw most of it out. It was too much like chew, just didn't give me the feeling I was looking for, made me want to cave.
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Fake Chew
So I've been using fake chew now for the 5 days I've been quit and it's been working really well for me. I get a crave and just pop one of those bad boys in and I'm pretty much good to go. I honestly think that aside from KTC the fake chew has been the key ingredient to my quit so far.
My question is, does there come a time when the fake dip becomes a continuation of the original crutch rather than a tool to fight the cravings? What is the time frame for this? My current plan is to transition from the fake chew to those minty white lifesavers, or something that won't stain my teeth so I can get the whitened.
Just wondering what some others have experienced with this.
I've yet to meet a fake chew addict. Just joking. No, seriously. I used Smokey Mountain in the past before I quit and I've been using it during my quit. Love it. Don't know how I would have made it without it. But that's me. I'm almost in the Hall and I now don't use it nearly like I did when I began. Don't sweat it at all. It's not nicotine and the use of it will naturally taper off. Although I did read a story about a guy that at over a year of quit one day a random killer crave popped up out of nowhere. He happened to have a can of SM in the pickup. He grabbed it and killed the crave. So I plan on never being without it for quite a while. Just my 2 cents.
I bought one can of it, threw most of it out. It was too much like chew, just didn't give me the feeling I was looking for, made me want to cave.
Day 3. The Smokey Mountain is working good for me at the moment. I was curious myself if anyone else got "addicted" to the fake stuff..
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Day 8 Newbie here and a 32 yr Can of CopeHell per dayer...needed to just post as i am hurting today. Upper and lower jaw just throbbing asking for the BITCH but fuk you! I have the same issue with the fake, at least yesterday, it brings the sensation of actually chewing back too close for comfort vs seeds/gum etc...anyway Im in this fight for the long haul but might need some DIGITS to fall back on until i can get through this intense phase of breaking the physical aspect of this addiction. Cheers, Keith in Seattle
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Day 8 Newbie here and a 32 yr Can of CopeHell per dayer...needed to just post as i am hurting today. Upper and lower jaw just throbbing asking for the BITCH but fuk you! I have the same issue with the fake, at least yesterday, it brings the sensation of actually chewing back too close for comfort vs seeds/gum etc...anyway Im in this fight for the long haul but might need some DIGITS to fall back on until i can get through this intense phase of breaking the physical aspect of this addiction. Cheers, Keith in Seattle
Hang tough Keith.
That feeling you're having is your body throwing a temper tantrum. Don't give in.
This too shall pass. I promise. It's going to take some time, but I swear to you, one day, you will look back on this day and be so relieved you fought it out and won.
I've said it before - You will NEVER regret Quitting. Ever.
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Fake Chew
So I've been using fake chew now for the 5 days I've been quit and it's been working really well for me. I get a crave and just pop one of those bad boys in and I'm pretty much good to go. I honestly think that aside from KTC the fake chew has been the key ingredient to my quit so far.
My question is, does there come a time when the fake dip becomes a continuation of the original crutch rather than a tool to fight the cravings? What is the time frame for this? My current plan is to transition from the fake chew to those minty white lifesavers, or something that won't stain my teeth so I can get the whitened.
Just wondering what some others have experienced with this.
I've yet to meet a fake chew addict. Just joking. No, seriously. I used Smokey Mountain in the past before I quit and I've been using it during my quit. Love it. Don't know how I would have made it without it. But that's me. I'm almost in the Hall and I now don't use it nearly like I did when I began. Don't sweat it at all. It's not nicotine and the use of it will naturally taper off. Although I did read a story about a guy that at over a year of quit one day a random killer crave popped up out of nowhere. He happened to have a can of SM in the pickup. He grabbed it and killed the crave. So I plan on never being without it for quite a while. Just my 2 cents.
I bought one can of it, threw most of it out. It was too much like chew, just didn't give me the feeling I was looking for, made me want to cave.
Day 3. The Smokey Mountain is working good for me at the moment. I was curious myself if anyone else got "addicted" to the fake stuff..
I always have a can (SM) with me for the bitch moments. I'm day 69 and it has been a life saver for me. Addicted.... to fake.... no it just a safe way to play. Like a condom back I the day.. I've had to relearn how to do everything without the Cope at the wheel with me... SM has been a cool second and easier to deal with.
Just my. 02
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So last night my wife managed to clog the kitchen pipes by shoving all the potato skins down the drain...had to rinse off all the T-day dishes in a bucket of water, then leave them overnight. Snaked the shit out of the pipes this morning to no avail, ended up opening up the ceiling and the wall in the basement, cutting the pipes in 2 places, finally located the clog, stuck the shop vac hose in the pipes to make sure i got it all, trip to the hardware store for some couplings to put the pipes back together...all while watching a 3yr old, 18 month old and 1yr old, plus the dog...then cleaned both the mess from the repair and the mess from dinner last night (kitchen is cleaner now than a normal day)....so in my head i'm thinking maybe she's so grateful I've earned a nice little thank you when she gets home from work....alas, instead I get raked for not picking the kids toys up in the basement. AAARRRRGGGGHHHH!!!
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Fake Chew
So I've been using fake chew now for the 5 days I've been quit and it's been working really well for me. I get a crave and just pop one of those bad boys in and I'm pretty much good to go. I honestly think that aside from KTC the fake chew has been the key ingredient to my quit so far.
My question is, does there come a time when the fake dip becomes a continuation of the original crutch rather than a tool to fight the cravings? What is the time frame for this? My current plan is to transition from the fake chew to those minty white lifesavers, or something that won't stain my teeth so I can get the whitened.
Just wondering what some others have experienced with this.
I've yet to meet a fake chew addict. Just joking. No, seriously. I used Smokey Mountain in the past before I quit and I've been using it during my quit. Love it. Don't know how I would have made it without it. But that's me. I'm almost in the Hall and I now don't use it nearly like I did when I began. Don't sweat it at all. It's not nicotine and the use of it will naturally taper off. Although I did read a story about a guy that at over a year of quit one day a random killer crave popped up out of nowhere. He happened to have a can of SM in the pickup. He grabbed it and killed the crave. So I plan on never being without it for quite a while. Just my 2 cents.
I bought one can of it, threw most of it out. It was too much like chew, just didn't give me the feeling I was looking for, made me want to cave.
Day 3. The Smokey Mountain is working good for me at the moment. I was curious myself if anyone else got "addicted" to the fake stuff..
I always have a can (SM) with me for the bitch moments. I'm day 69 and it has been a life saver for me. Addicted.... to fake.... no it just a safe way to play. Like a condom back I the day.. I've had to relearn how to do everything without the Cope at the wheel with me... SM has been a cool second and easier to deal with.
Just my. 02
My experience was; I used fake continually for 80-90 days then at about 120 days I lost total interest in it. I kept a can around and cracked it a couple times the 1st year. I still have a couple and but I haven't opened then in nearly a year. Last month I did take a can with me on a long drive but didn't need it.
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Cyber Monday Deals On Fake Dip / Smokeless Alternatives
http://www.killthecan.org/cyber-monday- ... ernatives/ (http://www.killthecan.org/cyber-monday-deals-on-fake-dip-smokeless-alternatives/)
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Day 1: I call this day one because I quit 2 days ago, but gave in and had a rub. I just now bought a can of "Smokey Mountain: Cherry."
There is no nicotine in Smokey Mountain right?
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Day 1: I call this day one because I quit 2 days ago, but gave in and had a rub. I just now bought a can of "Smokey Mountain: Cherry."
There is no nicotine in Smokey Mountain right?
There is no nicotine in SM. Use all you need to keep the nic-filled shit out of your face.
If you declare your freedom today, then yes, today is your day one.
So you are not tempted to rub one out again, clean house. Get rid of all the real dip and spitters, even the hidden ones. Then, click on the Welcome Center (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13) link and read those brief items to learn about who we are and what we do.
After that the next step is "Posting Roll". That is the backbone of what we do. You'll read about in the Welcome Center (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13).
What are you waiting for?
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New Blog Post: Ode To Day 75 - Language NSFW (Not Suitable For Work)
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/12/ode- ... work-nsfw/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/12/ode-to-day-75-language-not-suitable-for-work-nsfw/)
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In my effort to quit, I have cut down from 3 - 4 cans a day to 1. I've been feeling kind of crummy: light headed, nauseas.. pretty much just like if I had the flu. Is this normal or just coincidental?
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In my effort to quit, I have cut down from 3 - 4 cans a day to 1. I've been feeling kind of crummy: light headed, nauseas.. pretty much just like if I had the flu. Is this normal or just coincidental?
Your not quit; that's the problem. If you have any desire whatsoever to quit, click on the Welcome Center link near the top left and start reading. This is a no nicotine site. We quit cold turkey.
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In my effort to quit, I have cut down from 3 - 4 cans a day to 1. I've been feeling kind of crummy: light headed, nauseas.. pretty much just like if I had the flu. Is this normal or just coincidental?
Your not quit; that's the problem. If you have any desire whatsoever to quit, click on the Welcome Center link near the top left and start reading. This is a no nicotine site. We quit cold turkey.
Fair enough. Did some reading, now my chew us joining the ranks of my digested dinner in my septic tank. I'm on board
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In my effort to quit, I have cut down from 3 - 4 cans a day to 1. I've been feeling kind of crummy: light headed, nauseas.. pretty much just like if I had the flu. Is this normal or just coincidental?
Your not quit; that's the problem. If you have any desire whatsoever to quit, click on the Welcome Center link near the top left and start reading. This is a no nicotine site. We quit cold turkey.
Fair enough. Did some reading, now my chew us joining the ranks of my digested dinner in my septic tank. I'm on board
^^^ This gives me quit wood.
Congrats brudda! Welcome to the rest of your life!!!
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Just wanted to say, and have everyone remember, that today is Dec 7, the anniversary of the attack on Pearl Harbor. Gents, lets all take a moment today, whether you're like Pinched, Bulldog, Neonpanther, Mogul, or myself being active/former military or just been a civilian all your life, remember the lives lost there and what happened as a result. Our involvement In WW2, which my grandfathers proudly fought in, and captured a few flags that i still cherish today.
Remember that they did not relent in the time of war against evil, the pressed on, knowing that they had each other to count on, and thats all that mattered really. keeping one another alive and safe. Make that your purpose here, keeping one another quit as much as you have the power to. Let us not relent in our battle against nicotine, because all of us military gents know, what a waste it would be to die to nicotine...instead of a real war that you could be proud of and be honored.
Don't forget our heroes today. Thank you
Cpl West, 2171, USMC/ Active.
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Jdub. Very well said. Bravo
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In my effort to quit, I have cut down from 3 - 4 cans a day to 1. I've been feeling kind of crummy: light headed, nauseas.. pretty much just like if I had the flu. Is this normal or just coincidental?
Your not quit; that's the problem. If you have any desire whatsoever to quit, click on the Welcome Center link near the top left and start reading. This is a no nicotine site. We quit cold turkey.
Fair enough. Did some reading, now my chew us joining the ranks of my digested dinner in my septic tank. I'm on board
Bison, I made the same decision you did one month ago. Best decision I have made in a long, long, time (since deciding to propose to my wife of 22 years). You will feel like shit for several days, then it gets better. Here are the keys for me, and likely for you too:
1. You are an addict. You cannot have one dip, smoke, puff, whatever.
2. You can do today. So do today, then wake up and do today again.
Welcome to your new life. Have you posted roll yet?
Medicsteve
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Amen JDub....I was amazed on Saturday about the lack of publicity on TV radio about "the day that will live in infamy". The American WWII generation was, in my humble opinion, the greatest generation our country has ever seen. My grandfather was an infantryman and, despite my military service, never wanted to discuss his experiences in the war....something I regret to this day.
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Amen JDub....I was amazed on Saturday about the lack of publicity on TV radio about "the day that will live in infamy". The American WWII generation was, in my humble opinion, the greatest generation our country has ever seen. My grandfather was an infantryman and, despite my military service, never wanted to discuss his experiences in the war....something I regret to this day.
I hear the Greatest Generation all the time. While they were Great, I think the first generation of Americans were just a tad bit greater.
Just sayin.
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Amen JDub....I was amazed on Saturday about the lack of publicity on TV radio about "the day that will live in infamy". The American WWII generation was, in my humble opinion, the greatest generation our country has ever seen. My grandfather was an infantryman and, despite my military service, never wanted to discuss his experiences in the war....something I regret to this day.
I hear the Greatest Generation all the time. While they were Great, I think the first generation of Americans were just a tad bit greater.
Just sayin.
This country has had many great individuals, groups and generations, I love learning and reading about them. I have generations within my own heritage that I consider great and have those that participated in some of the great moments in history. As population increases and we become more diversified and dependent having generations as a whole be remembered for greatness becomes less likely. We may not see another generation like those mentioned but we can be individuals that stand for those beliefs we have. There is no reason that each of us can't make a memory within our own family to be a memorable individual that can be remembered for many generations. May I make a lasting impression, I pray!
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Check out the headline under Pelosi's picture on Drudge. (http://www.drudgereport.com/)
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Check out the headline under Pelosi's picture on Drudge. (http://www.drudgereport.com/)
That is awesome!
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Check out the headline under Pelosi's picture on Drudge. (http://www.drudgereport.com/)
That is awesome!
She defined suck!
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Check out the headline under Pelosi's picture on Drudge. (http://www.drudgereport.com/)
That is awesome!
She defined suck!
"Embrace the suck" I can just see it on a political bumper sticker in the future; kind of like "hope" or "change"...
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Check out the headline under Pelosi's picture on Drudge. (http://www.drudgereport.com/)
That is awesome!
She defined suck!
"Embrace the suck" I can just see it on a political bumper sticker in the future; kind of like "hope" or "change"...
Your gonna have to suck it to find out what's in it! 'crackup'
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In my effort to quit, I have cut down from 3 - 4 cans a day to 1. I've been feeling kind of crummy: light headed, nauseas.. pretty much just like if I had the flu. Is this normal or just coincidental?
Your not quit; that's the problem. If you have any desire whatsoever to quit, click on the Welcome Center link near the top left and start reading. This is a no nicotine site. We quit cold turkey.
Fair enough. Did some reading, now my chew us joining the ranks of my digested dinner in my septic tank. I'm on board
Bison, I made the same decision you did one month ago. Best decision I have made in a long, long, time (since deciding to propose to my wife of 22 years). You will feel like shit for several days, then it gets better. Here are the keys for me, and likely for you too:
1. You are an addict. You cannot have one dip, smoke, puff, whatever.
2. You can do today. So do today, then wake up and do today again.
Welcome to your new life. Have you posted roll yet?
Medicsteve
I hadnt posted roll yet, but that seems to have been for the best. I slipped today. Tomorrow will start a new attempt
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In my effort to quit, I have cut down from 3 - 4 cans a day to 1. I've been feeling kind of crummy: light headed, nauseas.. pretty much just like if I had the flu. Is this normal or just coincidental?
Your not quit; that's the problem. If you have any desire whatsoever to quit, click on the Welcome Center link near the top left and start reading. This is a no nicotine site. We quit cold turkey.
Fair enough. Did some reading, now my chew us joining the ranks of my digested dinner in my septic tank. I'm on board
Bison, I made the same decision you did one month ago. Best decision I have made in a long, long, time (since deciding to propose to my wife of 22 years). You will feel like shit for several days, then it gets better. Here are the keys for me, and likely for you too:
1. You are an addict. You cannot have one dip, smoke, puff, whatever.
2. You can do today. So do today, then wake up and do today again.
Welcome to your new life. Have you posted roll yet?
Medicsteve
I hadnt posted roll yet, but that seems to have been for the best. I slipped today. Tomorrow will start a new attempt
Stop "attempting". Quit if you are serious. You have been given the KTC gospel - listen to it. This is life or death, so read the Welcome Center and then get your name on Roll everyday. Make that pledge to yourself and all of us that you will be nicotine free for one day and then honor your word.
Are you serious about gaineding your freedom one day at a time or are you just kicking the tires? You way sucks and has failed you how many times? I quit once, the KTC way, and I'm at 430 straight days of freedom.
The choice is yours and only you can make it: freedom or slave.
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In my effort to quit, I have cut down from 3 - 4 cans a day to 1. I've been feeling kind of crummy: light headed, nauseas.. pretty much just like if I had the flu. Is this normal or just coincidental?
Your not quit; that's the problem. If you have any desire whatsoever to quit, click on the Welcome Center link near the top left and start reading. This is a no nicotine site. We quit cold turkey.
Fair enough. Did some reading, now my chew us joining the ranks of my digested dinner in my septic tank. I'm on board
Bison, I made the same decision you did one month ago. Best decision I have made in a long, long, time (since deciding to propose to my wife of 22 years). You will feel like shit for several days, then it gets better. Here are the keys for me, and likely for you too:
1. You are an addict. You cannot have one dip, smoke, puff, whatever.
2. You can do today. So do today, then wake up and do today again.
Welcome to your new life. Have you posted roll yet?
Medicsteve
I hadnt posted roll yet, but that seems to have been for the best. I slipped today. Tomorrow will start a new attempt
Stop "attempting". Quit if you are serious. You have been given the KTC gospel - listen to it. This is life or death, so read the Welcome Center and then get your name on Roll everyday. Make that pledge to yourself and all of us that you will be nicotine free for one day and then honor your word.
Are you serious about gaineding your freedom one day at a time or are you just kicking the tires? You way sucks and has failed you how many times? I quit once, the KTC way, and I'm at 430 straight days of freedom.
The choice is yours and only you can make it: freedom or slave.
In my effort to quit, I have cut down from 3 - 4 cans a day to 1. I've been feeling kind of crummy: light headed, nauseas.. pretty much just like if I had the flu. Is this normal or just coincidental?
Your not quit; that's the problem. If you have any desire whatsoever to quit, click on the Welcome Center link near the top left and start reading. This is a no nicotine site. We quit cold turkey.
Fair enough. Did some reading, now my chew us joining the ranks of my digested dinner in my septic tank. I'm on board
Bison, I made the same decision you did one month ago. Best decision I have made in a long, long, time (since deciding to propose to my wife of 22 years). You will feel like shit for several days, then it gets better. Here are the keys for me, and likely for you too:
1. You are an addict. You cannot have one dip, smoke, puff, whatever.
2. You can do today. So do today, then wake up and do today again.
Welcome to your new life. Have you posted roll yet?
Medicsteve
I hadnt posted roll yet, but that seems to have been for the best. I slipped today. Tomorrow will start a new attempt
Stop "attempting". Quit if you are serious. You have been given the KTC gospel - listen to it. This is life or death, so read the Welcome Center and then get your name on Roll everyday. Make that pledge to yourself and all of us that you will be nicotine free for one day and then honor your word.
Are you serious about gaineding your freedom one day at a time or are you just kicking the tires? You way sucks and has failed you how many times? I quit once, the KTC way, and I'm at 430 straight days of freedom.
The choice is yours and only you can make it: freedom or slave.
Hey, I quit 223 days ago and can tell you there is no better way. FOLLOW THE PROGRAM! Post roll, get to know your group, and zero nic. None.
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In my effort to quit, I have cut down from 3 - 4 cans a day to 1. I've been feeling kind of crummy: light headed, nauseas.. pretty much just like if I had the flu. Is this normal or just coincidental?
Your not quit; that's the problem. If you have any desire whatsoever to quit, click on the Welcome Center link near the top left and start reading. This is a no nicotine site. We quit cold turkey.
Fair enough. Did some reading, now my chew us joining the ranks of my digested dinner in my septic tank. I'm on board
Bison, I made the same decision you did one month ago. Best decision I have made in a long, long, time (since deciding to propose to my wife of 22 years). You will feel like shit for several days, then it gets better. Here are the keys for me, and likely for you too:
1. You are an addict. You cannot have one dip, smoke, puff, whatever.
2. You can do today. So do today, then wake up and do today again.
Welcome to your new life. Have you posted roll yet?
Medicsteve
I hadnt posted roll yet, but that seems to have been for the best. I slipped today. Tomorrow will start a new attempt
Stop "attempting". Quit if you are serious. You have been given the KTC gospel - listen to it. This is life or death, so read the Welcome Center and then get your name on Roll everyday. Make that pledge to yourself and all of us that you will be nicotine free for one day and then honor your word.
Are you serious about gaineding your freedom one day at a time or are you just kicking the tires? You way sucks and has failed you how many times? I quit once, the KTC way, and I'm at 430 straight days of freedom.
The choice is yours and only you can make it: freedom or slave.
Glad to see you posted Day 1 today. Now the battles begin!!!
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Today has been rough, but so far I've been able to be tougher than the addiction. Was offered a can, and turned it down
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Today has been rough, but so far I've been able to be tougher than the addiction. Was offered a can, and turned it down
One of the most inspiration quitters on KTC, Syndrome, (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showuser=5607) gave the info below to a quitter that was offered a can. I think his advice applies to you. Good job keeping your word. man your coworkers are fuckin with your quit? time to teach um the tryed and true ktc way that you and your quit are not to be fucked with. next time one a those fucks offers you a dip heres what you need to do:
1. take can with big smile
2. open can
3. rotate arm at the wrist 180 degrees, there by emptyin contents of can on ground
4. step on pile of worm shit
5. twist at knee and ankel to grind worm shit back in to ground
6. replace lid
7. hand can back to coworker with a smile
8. remind him that you will be willin to help him agin any time
9. repete as nessassary til no buddy will ever offer you a dip agin. evin if you ask for it.
ps if you can piss on the worm shit thats evin better then grindin it in to the ground.
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Today has been rough, but so far I've been able to be tougher than the addiction. Was offered a can, and turned it down
One of the most inspiration quitters on KTC, Syndrome, (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showuser=5607) gave the info below to a quitter that was offered a can. I think his advice applies to you. Good job keeping your word. man your coworkers are fuckin with your quit? time to teach um the tryed and true ktc way that you and your quit are not to be fucked with. next time one a those fucks offers you a dip heres what you need to do:
1. take can with big smile
2. open can
3. rotate arm at the wrist 180 degrees, there by emptyin contents of can on ground
4. step on pile of worm shit
5. twist at knee and ankel to grind worm shit back in to ground
6. replace lid
7. hand can back to coworker with a smile
8. remind him that you will be willin to help him agin any time
9. repete as nessassary til no buddy will ever offer you a dip agin. evin if you ask for it.
ps if you can piss on the worm shit thats evin better then grindin it in to the ground.
Haha that is just phenomenal! I'll keep that in mind
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Today has been rough, but so far I've been able to be tougher than the addiction. Was offered a can, and turned it down
One of the most inspiration quitters on KTC, Syndrome, (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showuser=5607) gave the info below to a quitter that was offered a can. I think his advice applies to you. Good job keeping your word. man your coworkers are fuckin with your quit? time to teach um the tryed and true ktc way that you and your quit are not to be fucked with. next time one a those fucks offers you a dip heres what you need to do:
1. take can with big smile
2. open can
3. rotate arm at the wrist 180 degrees, there by emptyin contents of can on ground
4. step on pile of worm shit
5. twist at knee and ankel to grind worm shit back in to ground
6. replace lid
7. hand can back to coworker with a smile
8. remind him that you will be willin to help him agin any time
9. repete as nessassary til no buddy will ever offer you a dip agin. evin if you ask for it.
ps if you can piss on the worm shit thats evin better then grindin it in to the ground.
Haha that is just phenomenal! I'll keep that in mind
Sound wisdom!
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Hey guys, I'm going to ask a question here that is probably a new twist on an old theme:
I get one cigarette/cigar is NOT ok with a nicotine addict. That logically makes sense. How about Marijuana? This is not nicotine, this is not dipping, so.... thoughts?
Feel free to PM me if you don't want to discuss your illicit drug use in public.
-Chris
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Hey guys, I'm going to ask a question here that is probably a new twist on an old theme:
I get one cigarette/cigar is NOT ok with a nicotine addict. That logically makes sense. How about Marijuana? This is not nicotine, this is not dipping, so.... thoughts?
Feel free to PM me if you don't want to discuss your illicit drug use in public.
-Chris
Chris I am not a user of the cannibus, however I will tell, be careful. Be ver carefel. At a time when you are breaking free from a fierce addiction, it is easy, and very common for other addictions and substance abuse issues to escalate.
Not to mention smoking anything is a damn slippery slope and aligns WAY too closely with tobacco. I wouldnt risk my quit on it for nothing. Now is your baking some laced brownies or something with the goods. Pass me a couple.
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Hey guys, I'm going to ask a question here that is probably a new twist on an old theme:
I get one cigarette/cigar is NOT ok with a nicotine addict. That logically makes sense. How about Marijuana? This is not nicotine, this is not dipping, so.... thoughts?
Feel free to PM me if you don't want to discuss your illicit drug use in public.
-Chris
Chris I am not a user of the cannibus, however I will tell, be careful. Be ver carefel. At a time when you are breaking free from a fierce addiction, it is easy, and very common for other addictions and substance abuse issues to escalate.
Not to mention smoking anything is a damn slippery slope and aligns WAY too closely with tobacco. I wouldnt risk my quit on it for nothing. Now is your baking some laced brownies or something with the goods. Pass me a couple.
IMO using any type of mind altering substance such as smoking dope or drinking heavily, can easily lessen your resolve and make you want to cave. I can remember more recent experiences with alcohol and distant past experiences with weed where I get strong cravings for nic. If someone around me was drinking or smoking, that's all it would take for me to cave BF I joined KTC.
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Hey guys, I'm going to ask a question here that is probably a new twist on an old theme:
I get one cigarette/cigar is NOT ok with a nicotine addict. That logically makes sense. How about Marijuana? This is not nicotine, this is not dipping, so.... thoughts?
Feel free to PM me if you don't want to discuss your illicit drug use in public.
-Chris
Chris I am not a user of the cannibus, however I will tell, be careful. Be ver carefel. At a time when you are breaking free from a fierce addiction, it is easy, and very common for other addictions and substance abuse issues to escalate.
Not to mention smoking anything is a damn slippery slope and aligns WAY too closely with tobacco. I wouldnt risk my quit on it for nothing. Now is your baking some laced brownies or something with the goods. Pass me a couple.
IMO using any type of mind altering substance such as smoking dope or drinking heavily, can easily lessen your resolve and make you want to cave. I can remember more recent experiences with alcohol and distant past experiences with weed where I get strong cravings for nic. If someone around me was drinking or smoking, that's all it would take for me to cave BF I joined KTC.
I wouldnt be able to do it. I had to pretty much quit drinking beer "by default", to ensure I don't have 1 too many and endanger my quit. A few too many beers at the beginning of my quit, and friends who smoke, almost killed me early. I held out and learned my lesson. My buddy and I are doing a 90 day sabbatical from beer, starting new years day. (although I've pretty much dropped it already)
What do people who dont drink have at social occasions? Tonic Water? Diet Coke? Anyone have any good ideas?
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Hey guys, I'm going to ask a question here that is probably a new twist on an old theme:
I get one cigarette/cigar is NOT ok with a nicotine addict. That logically makes sense. How about Marijuana? This is not nicotine, this is not dipping, so.... thoughts?
Feel free to PM me if you don't want to discuss your illicit drug use in public.
-Chris
Chris I am not a user of the cannibus, however I will tell, be careful. Be ver carefel. At a time when you are breaking free from a fierce addiction, it is easy, and very common for other addictions and substance abuse issues to escalate.
Not to mention smoking anything is a damn slippery slope and aligns WAY too closely with tobacco. I wouldnt risk my quit on it for nothing. Now is your baking some laced brownies or something with the goods. Pass me a couple.
IMO using any type of mind altering substance such as smoking dope or drinking heavily, can easily lessen your resolve and make you want to cave. I can remember more recent experiences with alcohol and distant past experiences with weed where I get strong cravings for nic. If someone around me was drinking or smoking, that's all it would take for me to cave BF I joined KTC.
I wouldnt be able to do it. I had to pretty much quit drinking beer "by default", to ensure I don't have 1 too many and endanger my quit. A few too many beers at the beginning of my quit, and friends who smoke, almost killed me early. I held out and learned my lesson. My buddy and I are doing a 90 day sabbatical from beer, starting new years day. (although I've pretty much dropped it already)
What do people who dont drink have at social occasions? Tonic Water? Diet Coke? Anyone have any good ideas?
You might try non-alcohol beer
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Hey guys, I'm going to ask a question here that is probably a new twist on an old theme:
I get one cigarette/cigar is NOT ok with a nicotine addict. That logically makes sense. How about Marijuana? This is not nicotine, this is not dipping, so.... thoughts?
Feel free to PM me if you don't want to discuss your illicit drug use in public.
-Chris
Chris I am not a user of the cannibus, however I will tell, be careful. Be ver carefel. At a time when you are breaking free from a fierce addiction, it is easy, and very common for other addictions and substance abuse issues to escalate.
Not to mention smoking anything is a damn slippery slope and aligns WAY too closely with tobacco. I wouldnt risk my quit on it for nothing. Now is your baking some laced brownies or something with the goods. Pass me a couple.
IMO using any type of mind altering substance such as smoking dope or drinking heavily, can easily lessen your resolve and make you want to cave. I can remember more recent experiences with alcohol and distant past experiences with weed where I get strong cravings for nic. If someone around me was drinking or smoking, that's all it would take for me to cave BF I joined KTC.
I wouldnt be able to do it. I had to pretty much quit drinking beer "by default", to ensure I don't have 1 too many and endanger my quit. A few too many beers at the beginning of my quit, and friends who smoke, almost killed me early. I held out and learned my lesson. My buddy and I are doing a 90 day sabbatical from beer, starting new years day. (although I've pretty much dropped it already)
What do people who dont drink have at social occasions? Tonic Water? Diet Coke? Anyone have any good ideas?
You might try non-alcohol beer
I never found one N/A beer that I liked. besides, no point in not drinking alcohol for 3 months if i cant reap the health bennies too.. Might as well stay away from beer and the empty carbs all together.
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Going to parties and not drinking is a choice just like going out and not dipping. Except, if you aren't an alcoholic, you can have one or two beers.
I went through a phase (aka trying to sleep with a girl) where I didn't drink for 2 months but went out every weekend. It seems weird, but just carry a water bottle and people won't bother you.
NEW TOPIC:
Can someone point me to some type of explanation as to why 7 forum goers signed a letter that was sent with my wristband?
I read something awhile back that said there was a backstory to this joint. I want to know what I signed up for.
Is.... is this a cult?
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Going to parties and not drinking is a choice just like going out and not dipping. Except, if you aren't an alcoholic, you can have one or two beers.
I went through a phase (aka trying to sleep with a girl) where I didn't drink for 2 months but went out every weekend. It seems weird, but just carry a water bottle and people won't bother you.
NEW TOPIC:
Can someone point me to some type of explanation as to why 7 forum goers signed a letter that was sent with my wristband?
I read something awhile back that said there was a backstory to this joint. I want to know what I signed up for.
Is.... is this a cult?
The 7 signatures on your letter are the signatures of the 7 admins of the site: index.php?act=StatsCODE=leaders (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?act=Stats&CODE=leaders)
Those admins have changed throughout the years, but the number always stays at 7. This is the way that we've set up the leadership of the forum. As the forums have grown (and continue to grow) we expand the number of moderators and chat mods we have as well to help with the community.
Is this a cult? Nah... but you'll often hear people talk about "drinking the KTC Kool Aid". This is in reference to our particular brand of quit. Its the best thing going. Stick around and find out.
Welcome aboard!
chewie
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Going to parties and not drinking is a choice just like going out and not dipping. Except, if you aren't an alcoholic, you can have one or two beers.
I went through a phase (aka trying to sleep with a girl) where I didn't drink for 2 months but went out every weekend. It seems weird, but just carry a water bottle and people won't bother you.
NEW TOPIC:
Can someone point me to some type of explanation as to why 7 forum goers signed a letter that was sent with my wristband?
I read something awhile back that said there was a backstory to this joint. I want to know what I signed up for.
Is.... is this a cult?
The 7 signatures on your letter are the signatures of the 7 admins of the site: index.php?act=StatsCODE=leaders (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?act=Stats&CODE=leaders)
Those admins have changed throughout the years, but the number always stays at 7. This is the way that we've set up the leadership of the forum. As the forums have grown (and continue to grow) we expand the number of moderators and chat mods we have as well to help with the community.
Is this a cult? Nah... but you'll often hear people talk about "drinking the KTC Kool Aid". This is in reference to our particular brand of quit. Its the best thing going. Stick around and find out.
Welcome aboard!
chewie
I guess you could consider KTC a cult by the following definition in free dictionary.com.
5. intense interest in and devotion to a person, idea, or activity
We are intensely interested in quitting nicotine and are obsessed with supporting each other through support, brotherhood and accountability. If you consider that a cult, I'm proud to be associated with it and count myself as a cult follower.
As far as The 7, they may be a little weird but over the past 20 months I've found their support in my quitting nicotine is phenomenal to get from total strangers.
BTW this koolaid won't kill you, it will save your life!!
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Hey guys, hit 1 year quit today and was going to check in with my quit group but couldn't find it. I'm still quit and it keeps getting a little easier every day. Fiance left me this year and I still managed to stay quit, even though there were some rough moments when I thought about buying a can. Just wanted to pop in and let you guys know that I'm still alive and quit.
Chupa
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Hey guys, hit 1 year quit today and was going to check in with my quit group but couldn't find it. I'm still quit and it keeps getting a little easier every day. Fiance left me this year and I still managed to stay quit, even though there were some rough moments when I thought about buying a can. Just wanted to pop in and let you guys know that I'm still alive and quit.
Chupa
Hey Chupa! All the folks you've helped along the way wanted me to thank you for them. Good luck!
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I am having a hard day today, it's day 18 of my quit nicotine and something I've never put on here is that I have been a recreational pill popper for the past 12 or so years. Pain killers are my biggest trigger and if I where to take even one, I know I would go buy a can of chew. Anyways I have stopped taking the pain pills on the same day of my quit. So I'm 18 days sober on those as well. My problem today is this fuckin jerkoff at work is throwing out all these names of different shit he has and I was moments away from asking for a few. My addict self came back an I was building up conversation to where it would be easy to ask for some. I literally cut the conversation short and came out to my truck to get this out there. I have to work with this guy today and tomorrow then I switch crews. I am seriously thinking about calling my boss and telling him that I have a family emergency and taking off these 2 days because I honestly don't know if I am strong enough to resist these urges all day long an again tomorrow yet. Does anyone have other advice. Maybe from someone who knows what I'm talking about. After writing this I feel better already. So thanks ktc
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I am having a hard day today, it's day 18 of my quit nicotine and something I've never put on here is that I have been a recreational pill popper for the past 12 or so years. Pain killers are my biggest trigger and if I where to take even one, I know I would go buy a can of chew. Anyways I have stopped taking the pain pills on the same day of my quit. So I'm 18 days sober on those as well. My problem today is this fuckin jerkoff at work is throwing out all these names of different shit he has and I was moments away from asking for a few. My addict self came back an I was building up conversation to where it would be easy to ask for some. I literally cut the conversation short and came out to my truck to get this out there. I have to work with this guy today and tomorrow then I switch crews. I am seriously thinking about calling my boss and telling him that I have a family emergency and taking off these 2 days because I honestly don't know if I am strong enough to resist these urges all day long an again tomorrow yet. Does anyone have other advice. Maybe from someone who knows what I'm talking about. After writing this I feel better already. So thanks ktc
I don't have any experience in pain pills, brother, so I can only offer sympathy.
I would offer a suggestion that you think about some professional help with your other 'habits', and applaud you for your resolve.
I will also tell you something I've said over and over again - You will NEVER regret Quitting, and you will ALWAYS regret caving.
Hang tough. You're winning.
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I am having a hard day today, it's day 18 of my quit nicotine and something I've never put on here is that I have been a recreational pill popper for the past 12 or so years. Pain killers are my biggest trigger and if I where to take even one, I know I would go buy a can of chew. Anyways I have stopped taking the pain pills on the same day of my quit. So I'm 18 days sober on those as well. My problem today is this fuckin jerkoff at work is throwing out all these names of different shit he has and I was moments away from asking for a few. My addict self came back an I was building up conversation to where it would be easy to ask for some. I literally cut the conversation short and came out to my truck to get this out there. I have to work with this guy today and tomorrow then I switch crews. I am seriously thinking about calling my boss and telling him that I have a family emergency and taking off these 2 days because I honestly don't know if I am strong enough to resist these urges all day long an again tomorrow yet. Does anyone have other advice. Maybe from someone who knows what I'm talking about. After writing this I feel better already. So thanks ktc
I don't have any experience in pain pills, brother, so I can only offer sympathy.
I would offer a suggestion that you think about some professional help with your other 'habits', and applaud you for your resolve.
I will also tell you something I've said over and over again - You will NEVER regret Quitting, and you will ALWAYS regret caving.
Hang tough. You're winning.
I agree with Nolaq on this one. At the same time I want to point out we all have addictive minds here and its easy to find something else to "substitute" for quitting the nic. My substitutes was food and lots of it. Under the non dipping discussion thread you will find "Getting your Act Together" We have support threads for drug and alcohol abuse. Nothing professional but you can get a sense of belonging to a group of others going through the same thing. PM me if you need anything or would like a number.
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I am having a hard day today, it's day 18 of my quit nicotine and something I've never put on here is that I have been a recreational pill popper for the past 12 or so years. Pain killers are my biggest trigger and if I where to take even one, I know I would go buy a can of chew. Anyways I have stopped taking the pain pills on the same day of my quit. So I'm 18 days sober on those as well. My problem today is this fuckin jerkoff at work is throwing out all these names of different shit he has and I was moments away from asking for a few. My addict self came back an I was building up conversation to where it would be easy to ask for some. I literally cut the conversation short and came out to my truck to get this out there. I have to work with this guy today and tomorrow then I switch crews. I am seriously thinking about calling my boss and telling him that I have a family emergency and taking off these 2 days because I honestly don't know if I am strong enough to resist these urges all day long an again tomorrow yet. Does anyone have other advice. Maybe from someone who knows what I'm talking about. After writing this I feel better already. So thanks ktc
I don't have any experience in pain pills, brother, so I can only offer sympathy.
I would offer a suggestion that you think about some professional help with your other 'habits', and applaud you for your resolve.
I will also tell you something I've said over and over again - You will NEVER regret Quitting, and you will ALWAYS regret caving.
Hang tough. You're winning.
I agree with Nolaq on this one. At the same time I want to point out we all have addictive minds here and its easy to find something else to "substitute" for quitting the nic. My substitutes was food and lots of it. Under the non dipping discussion thread you will find "Getting your Act Together" We have support threads for drug and alcohol abuse. Nothing professional but you can get a sense of belonging to a group of others going through the same thing. PM me if you need anything or would like a number.
Wintergreen I understand your pain. I'd like to share a paragraph from my 12 step addiction recovery course which is from AA.
As you do your inventory, look beyond your past behaviors and examine the thoughts, feelings, and beliefs that led to your behavior. Your thoughts, feelings, and beliefs are actually the roots of your addictive behaviors. Unless you examine all your tendencies toward fear, pride, resentment, anger, self-will, and self-pity, your abstinence will be shaky at best. You will continue with your original addiction or switch to another one. Your addiction is a symptom of other “causes and conditions” (Alcoholics Anonymous [2001], 64). (Step 4: Truth)
I spent years bouncing from one addiction to another and after quitting nicotine I caught myself trying to fill the void. Self evaluation to discover why we need addictions was a huge breakthrough for me. It doesn't matter what your weakness is you can still overcome it one day at a time. Your honesty proves you truly are ready to abandon the past. PM me if I can help.
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I am having a hard day today, it's day 18 of my quit nicotine and something I've never put on here is that I have been a recreational pill popper for the past 12 or so years. Pain killers are my biggest trigger and if I where to take even one, I know I would go buy a can of chew. Anyways I have stopped taking the pain pills on the same day of my quit. So I'm 18 days sober on those as well. My problem today is this fuckin jerkoff at work is throwing out all these names of different shit he has and I was moments away from asking for a few. My addict self came back an I was building up conversation to where it would be easy to ask for some. I literally cut the conversation short and came out to my truck to get this out there. I have to work with this guy today and tomorrow then I switch crews. I am seriously thinking about calling my boss and telling him that I have a family emergency and taking off these 2 days because I honestly don't know if I am strong enough to resist these urges all day long an again tomorrow yet. Does anyone have other advice. Maybe from someone who knows what I'm talking about. After writing this I feel better already. So thanks ktc
I don't have any experience in pain pills, brother, so I can only offer sympathy.
I would offer a suggestion that you think about some professional help with your other 'habits', and applaud you for your resolve.
I will also tell you something I've said over and over again - You will NEVER regret Quitting, and you will ALWAYS regret caving.
Hang tough. You're winning.
I agree with Nolaq on this one. At the same time I want to point out we all have addictive minds here and its easy to find something else to "substitute" for quitting the nic. My substitutes was food and lots of it. Under the non dipping discussion thread you will find "Getting your Act Together" We have support threads for drug and alcohol abuse. Nothing professional but you can get a sense of belonging to a group of others going through the same thing. PM me if you need anything or would like a number.
Wintergreen I understand your pain. I'd like to share a paragraph from my 12 step addiction recovery course which is from AA.
As you do your inventory, look beyond your past behaviors and examine the thoughts, feelings, and beliefs that led to your behavior. Your thoughts, feelings, and beliefs are actually the roots of your addictive behaviors. Unless you examine all your tendencies toward fear, pride, resentment, anger, self-will, and self-pity, your abstinence will be shaky at best. You will continue with your original addiction or switch to another one. Your addiction is a symptom of other “causes and conditions” (Alcoholics Anonymous [2001], 64). (Step 4: Truth)
I spent years bouncing from one addiction to another and after quitting nicotine I caught myself trying to fill the void. Self evaluation to discover why we need addictions was a huge breakthrough for me. It doesn't matter what your weakness is you can still overcome it one day at a time. Your honesty proves you truly are ready to abandon the past. PM me if I can help.
Thanks guys and thanks WT. You are right. One day at a time and I am quit today. Thanks for advice fellas
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How bout this to keep in your head you work on railroad tracks and if you take that shit while working on tracks or associate with those who do work while impaired the consequences that may occur. I understand the trigger thing but lets say a train derailed and say your wife and baby were at the crossing would that be acceptable? I know that this sounds harsh but wtf working impaired has consequences. What if they piss test you and you don't have a script to cover why that shit is in your piss...is being unemployed really worth popping pills. How bout a look in the mirror and ask yourself do I want this kinda shit to keep happening or do I want it to end do I want to make a change. I know I am on your ass but hell you have responsibilities to the public and to your family.
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Hey guys. I've been laid up in the hospital after shoulder surgery, but I held my own. Was even offered a nicotene patch and turned it diwn
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Hello gents?!?!? I'm new and clueless I'm operatwung on my iPhone and I'm clueless I'm trying to join a quit group but have no idea where to look or go please any help very much appreciated tyvm
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Hey guys. I've been laid up in the hospital after shoulder surgery, but I held my own. Was even offered a nicotene patch and turned it diwn
BOOM! Congrats. That's huge!!!
Hope you're shoulder is recovering nicely!
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Hello gents?!?!? I'm new and clueless I'm operatwung on my iPhone and I'm clueless I'm trying to join a quit group but have no idea where to look or go please any help very much appreciated tyvm
Welcome aboard USMCray (and thank you for your service).
Here's a video that forum member Roamcountry put together a while back on how to post roll on the iPhone: http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/08/how- ... an-iphone/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/08/how-to-post-roll-on-an-iphone/)
As for "joining" a quit group... it simply a matter of finding yours, introducing yourself and posting roll (giving your word). Quit groups are based on the day you quit. If you quit between 11/22/2013 - 12/22/2013 then you're part of the March 2014 group
index.php?showtopic=9121 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=9121)
Let us know how we can help!
chewie
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Day 7. Getting these instant sweats that happen every couple hours, and seem to come out of nowhere. Wife is riding my last nerve, but I think everyone is riding that nerve equally well. Yesterday I told her to stop peckin at me. She didn't understand that. Had to have her read some articles on this site so she would understood it a bit more. That did help. Not getting the harsh cravings so much, but wacky sleeping patterns, dreams, fatigue after a meal, inability to concentrate for any length of time (glad I work from home), seriously irritable, defensive, and being all around dick. Feel like my personality is not mine, and a bit out of control most of the time.
Fuck :unsure:
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Day 7. Getting these instant sweats that happen every couple hours, and seem to come out of nowhere. Wife is riding my last nerve, but I think everyone is riding that nerve equally well. Yesterday I told her to stop peckin at me. She didn't understand that. Had to have her read some articles on this site so she would understood it a bit more. That did help. Not getting the harsh cravings so much, but wacky sleeping patterns, dreams, fatigue after a meal, inability to concentrate for any length of time (glad I work from home), seriously irritable, defensive, and being all around dick. Feel like my personality is not mine, and a bit out of control most of the time.
Fuck :unsure:
Yep, your in the suck of it! Glad to have you and start working on getting some numbers to call for help when days get bad. I don't see your name on the march roll so head on over to the welcome center and read about posting roll and show us your commitment.
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Hey guys. I've been laid up in the hospital after shoulder surgery, but I held my own. Was even offered a nicotene patch and turned it diwn
BOOM! Congrats. That's huge!!!
Hope you're shoulder is recovering nicely!
I'm hangin in there. Home now and trying not to take my pain medicine too much
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Day 7. Getting these instant sweats that happen every couple hours, and seem to come out of nowhere. Wife is riding my last nerve, but I think everyone is riding that nerve equally well. Yesterday I told her to stop peckin at me. She didn't understand that. Had to have her read some articles on this site so she would understood it a bit more. That did help. Not getting the harsh cravings so much, but wacky sleeping patterns, dreams, fatigue after a meal, inability to concentrate for any length of time (glad I work from home), seriously irritable, defensive, and being all around dick. Feel like my personality is not mine, and a bit out of control most of the time.Â
Fuck :unsure:
Yep, your in the suck of it! Glad to have you and start working on getting some numbers to call for help when days get bad. I don't see your name on the march roll so head on over to the welcome center and read about posting roll and show us your commitment.
Nothing like getting the bitch out of your system. She isn't going quietly, but show her skank ass the door anyway.
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I'm in pain, I'm fuckin grouchy and all I can think is I want a fucking chew. People keep fucking calling me and texting me and stopping by to see how I'm doing after my surgery andits taking everything I fucking have in me to not scream at them to fuck off.
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I'm in pain, I'm fuckin grouchy and all I can think is I want a fucking chew. People keep fucking calling me and texting me and stopping by to see how I'm doing after my surgery andits taking everything I fucking have in me to not scream at them to fuck off.
Bison I sympothise 100% and maybe reading this will help. It needs to be here for everyone to see anyway. All of our prayers go to her and her family!
Thanks for the prayers guys. I have known I have brain cancer for about a year now. The docs discontinued treatment 4 months ago because it isn't responding. They found a blood clot attached to it yesterday. Not a whole lot that can be done. Please continue praying. It has been a long road, and the end is in sight. Note a good end, but I believe in His power.
You guys are awesome, and your support on my quit journey is keeping me sane. Thanks and I am sorry for being late on posting lately, just hard to get out of bed and get to the computer. I will figure out how to post from my phone, I swear. Thanks Dave1903, for posting for me. And for checking on me.
Tomorrow is day 40!! I still have cravings, but I am quit!
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I'm in pain, I'm fuckin grouchy and all I can think is I want a fucking chew. People keep fucking calling me and texting me and stopping by to see how I'm doing after my surgery andits taking everything I fucking have in me to not scream at them to fuck off.
Be thankful. You could be alone and afraid!!!
Find humility. It is key!!!!!!!!!!
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Merry Christmas everyone !!
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I'm in pain, I'm fuckin grouchy and all I can think is I want a fucking chew. People keep fucking calling me and texting me and stopping by to see how I'm doing after my surgery andits taking everything I fucking have in me to not scream at them to fuck off.
Bison, with you in spirit. Strength. You got this.
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Not sure if this is where I post...Well, I'm currently on day 5 of the fourth time I've tried quitting but this one feels special. I feel like I am much stronger than the can this time. I have also given up alcohol for at least a month to knockout my biggest trigger this time as well. I'm ready to fricking do this and get my life under my control. I'm tired of getting scared that a bump in my mouth is cancer or that my teeth will fall out. I do have a question though...is fatigue a symptom of withdrawl because I'm more tired than I normally am. Thanks guys for everything! You know how I know it's going to be a great day? Because everyday is a great day!
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Not sure if this is where I post...Well, I'm currently on day 5 of the fourth time I've tried quitting but this one feels special. I feel like I am much stronger than the can this time. I have also given up alcohol for at least a month to knockout my biggest trigger this time as well. I'm ready to fricking do this and get my life under my control. I'm tired of getting scared that a bump in my mouth is cancer or that my teeth will fall out. I do have a question though...is fatigue a symptom of withdrawl because I'm more tired than I normally am. Thanks guys for everything! You know how I know it's going to be a great day? Because everyday is a great day!
Welcome aboard Bilbo813! You're in the April 2014 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=9259) quit group.
FYI. You need to post roll there every day.
Fatigue is a symptom. i was all off balance, fatigued, pissed off, etc. Until day 14 when a light switch flipped for me. (I'm still a new quitter, on day 30) Since then I've almost completely forgotton about dip. I get one crave a day - ish. after my morning coffee. Lots of ways to deal with that, personally I keep a tin of Fake Dip (http://www.smokeysnuff.com/) to get me by, but the last week i dont even bother with that anymore.
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Hey guys sorry for my absence. I was on my pain medicine and fell whrn I got oit of the shower. Back to the hospital and another shoulder surgery. It was grand
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3 years ago today was my last dip. Used gum for a bit so not the official quit date but still a big step. The date was planned through a quit program at work. Then that morning we had a big snow storm and our furnace died, to which my reaction was pure joy because they were the perfect excuses to not quit that day. Then I got a reminder email from the quit program, decided to give it a shot, spit my chew and the tin in the trash, and off we went. Found you fuckers about 10 days later while looking up fake chew. Eerily enough, the 12/27 quit date chosen by the program is also the date my dad died of cancer in 1987 so that might have played a part in motivation. The April '11 guys are part of the daily motivation now, could to have done it without them
If any new quitters read this, the beginning fuckin sucked hard, but it gets so much better that it's way worth it. Lots of help here for you. Stick with it and the hard work will pay off.
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3 years ago today was my last dip. Used gum for a bit so not the official quit date but still a big step. The date was planned through a quit program at work. Then that morning we had a big snow storm and our furnace died, to which my reaction was pure joy because they were the perfect excuses to not quit that day. Then I got a reminder email from the quit program, decided to give it a shot, spit my chew and the tin in the trash, and off we went. Found you fuckers about 10 days later while looking up fake chew. Eerily enough, the 12/27 quit date chosen by the program is also the date my dad died of cancer in 1987 so that might have played a part in motivation. The April '11 guys are part of the daily motivation now, could to have done it without them
If any new quitters read this, the beginning fuckin sucked hard, but it gets so much better that it's way worth it. Lots of help here for you. Stick with it and the hard work will pay off.
Congrats on the three years.
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3 years ago today was my last dip. Used gum for a bit so not the official quit date but still a big step. The date was planned through a quit program at work. Then that morning we had a big snow storm and our furnace died, to which my reaction was pure joy because they were the perfect excuses to not quit that day. Then I got a reminder email from the quit program, decided to give it a shot, spit my chew and the tin in the trash, and off we went. Found you fuckers about 10 days later while looking up fake chew. Eerily enough, the 12/27 quit date chosen by the program is also the date my dad died of cancer in 1987 so that might have played a part in motivation. The April '11 guys are part of the daily motivation now, could to have done it without them
If any new quitters read this, the beginning fuckin sucked hard, but it gets so much better that it's way worth it. Lots of help here for you. Stick with it and the hard work will pay off.
Congrats on the three years.
'boob' :wub: :D
Awesome!
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3 years ago today was my last dip. Used gum for a bit so not the official quit date but still a big step. The date was planned through a quit program at work. Then that morning we had a big snow storm and our furnace died, to which my reaction was pure joy because they were the perfect excuses to not quit that day. Then I got a reminder email from the quit program, decided to give it a shot, spit my chew and the tin in the trash, and off we went. Found you fuckers about 10 days later while looking up fake chew. Eerily enough, the 12/27 quit date chosen by the program is also the date my dad died of cancer in 1987 so that might have played a part in motivation. The April '11 guys are part of the daily motivation now, could to have done it without them
If any new quitters read this, the beginning fuckin sucked hard, but it gets so much better that it's way worth it. Lots of help here for you. Stick with it and the hard work will pay off.
Congratulations!
So would you recommend using the alternatives to blend with the real stuff and then blend yourself straight out of the can altogether?
You know like 80% real/20% alternative, then 60% real/40% alt, then 50/50, then 40/60... you get the idea.
Preparing for the 'flush'
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General quit discussion, questions, answers, etc.
Guests looking to quit looking for answers are welcome.
Hi, I'm new and actuallly here as a supporting wife to a quitter.
Just got our alternative chew.
He kinda hates the internet, but he's willing and able so far.
We've been through a LOT OF HELL in all kinds of other times and made it out sgtronger than ever, so I'm confident I can help him through this upcomming HELL and remained not only married, but best friends.
I understand the claws are going to come out, the growls will roar, and frankly, the whiskey bottle might take a few extra hits... right?
Any advice on how to be a supportive, but far from annoying life partner through this?
Thanks,
MintJawLady
(aka in past life as Crazy Mint Lady, so I changed it up a little). cowboy
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General quit discussion, questions, answers, etc.
Guests looking to quit looking for answers are welcome.
Hi, I'm new and actuallly here as a supporting wife to a quitter.
Just got our alternative chew.
He kinda hates the internet, but he's willing and able so far.
We've been through a LOT OF HELL in all kinds of other times and made it out sgtronger than ever, so I'm confident I can help him through this upcomming HELL and remained not only married, but best friends.
I understand the claws are going to come out, the growls will roar, and frankly, the whiskey bottle might take a few extra hits... right?
Any advice on how to be a supportive, but far from annoying life partner through this?
Thanks,
MintJawLady
(aka in past life as Crazy Mint Lady, so I changed it up a little). cowboy
I think you're already doing a great job. The fact that you are on here and care. Give him strength. Tell him you believe in him.
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3 years ago today was my last dip. Used gum for a bit so not the official quit date but still a big step. The date was planned through a quit program at work. Then that morning we had a big snow storm and our furnace died, to which my reaction was pure joy because they were the perfect excuses to not quit that day. Then I got a reminder email from the quit program, decided to give it a shot, spit my chew and the tin in the trash, and off we went. Found you fuckers about 10 days later while looking up fake chew. Eerily enough, the 12/27 quit date chosen by the program is also the date my dad died of cancer in 1987 so that might have played a part in motivation. The April '11 guys are part of the daily motivation now, could to have done it without them
If any new quitters read this, the beginning fuckin sucked hard, but it gets so much better that it's way worth it. Lots of help here for you. Stick with it and the hard work will pay off.
Congratulations!
So would you recommend using the alternatives to blend with the real stuff and then blend yourself straight out of the can altogether?
You know like 80% real/20% alternative, then 60% real/40% alt, then 50/50, then 40/60... you get the idea.
Preparing for the 'flush'
No, I wouldn't really recommend that. It's gonna suck either way so might as well get it started and over with. So don't really "prepare" just do it. No matter how you prepare it will eventually seem like its "too soon" so just go for it.
One thing the quit program told me that helped was to start by breaking associations. So stop chewing/smoking in the car, or after dinner, or after coffee etc or even quit coffee for a while. They did this to "prepare" while still using tobacco. Hey did help so I would suggest same techniques, but while using fake instead of tobacco. They also chose a quit date for me to help prepare, which seemed "too soon" but whatever date they said would have. More like time to prepare excuses.
Lost of controversy over the gum here. I used it for a week or so. It only helped in that it gave me a few days of not dipping, so breaking the physical connection of a chew in the lip. But it only takes a few days before you start wondering how great of a buzz you'll get if you eat 5 at a time! I feel kind of lucky that I used gum at the start of a (so far) successful quit. If I hadn't found KTC then it prob would have been a failure.
Lots of pros and cons on the fake stuff too. Personally I love it and still use it. It's different without a chemical addiction though, can forget to bring it somewhere or run out and it will be a few days to order more and not freak out over it. Other people are against it for very valid reasons too. I would suggest going through at least a few weeks of nothing before moving to fake just to help break that physical connection, and to make it suck more so you remember it!
Those are just my personal beliefs and experiences. There are lots of techniques here, you need to find which work for you. We will all agree that you need to stay very close to the site and embrace the suck. Being able to talk to people who have or are going through what you are during a quit is the most helpful thing ever. And remember how bad it sucks so you never go through it again. And know that it will get better if you put in the hard work.
Hope that helps. Shout if you need anything.
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Looking for help posting role 12/31-1/2. I might only need help on the 1st. Going to Pasadena. Anyone willing to help out? I'm in March 2014.
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Looking for help posting role 12/31-1/2. I might only need help on the 1st. Going to Pasadena. Anyone willing to help out? I'm in March 2014.
PM your cell number to me. I'll text you mine then you text me your promise. Ill get you on roll that day. No excuses to not get your promise made with the technology we have today
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Looking for help posting role 12/31-1/2. I might only need help on the 1st. Going to Pasadena. Anyone willing to help out? I'm in March 2014.
you can pm your number as well if for some reason you can't get ahold of EW. i've texted in roll a few times.
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3 years ago today was my last dip. Used gum for a bit so not the official quit date but still a big step. The date was planned through a quit program at work. Then that morning we had a big snow storm and our furnace died, to which my reaction was pure joy because they were the perfect excuses to not quit that day. Then I got a reminder email from the quit program, decided to give it a shot, spit my chew and the tin in the trash, and off we went. Found you fuckers about 10 days later while looking up fake chew. Eerily enough, the 12/27 quit date chosen by the program is also the date my dad died of cancer in 1987 so that might have played a part in motivation. The April '11 guys are part of the daily motivation now, could to have done it without them
If any new quitters read this, the beginning fuckin sucked hard, but it gets so much better that it's way worth it. Lots of help here for you. Stick with it and the hard work will pay off.
Congratulations!
So would you recommend using the alternatives to blend with the real stuff and then blend yourself straight out of the can altogether?
You know like 80% real/20% alternative, then 60% real/40% alt, then 50/50, then 40/60... you get the idea.
Preparing for the 'flush'
No, I wouldn't really recommend that. It's gonna suck either way so might as well get it started and over with. So don't really "prepare" just do it. No matter how you prepare it will eventually seem like its "too soon" so just go for it.
One thing the quit program told me that helped was to start by breaking associations. So stop chewing/smoking in the car, or after dinner, or after coffee etc or even quit coffee for a while. They did this to "prepare" while still using tobacco. Hey did help so I would suggest same techniques, but while using fake instead of tobacco. They also chose a quit date for me to help prepare, which seemed "too soon" but whatever date they said would have. More like time to prepare excuses.
Lost of controversy over the gum here. I used it for a week or so. It only helped in that it gave me a few days of not dipping, so breaking the physical connection of a chew in the lip. But it only takes a few days before you start wondering how great of a buzz you'll get if you eat 5 at a time! I feel kind of lucky that I used gum at the start of a (so far) successful quit. If I hadn't found KTC then it prob would have been a failure.
Lots of pros and cons on the fake stuff too. Personally I love it and still use it. It's different without a chemical addiction though, can forget to bring it somewhere or run out and it will be a few days to order more and not freak out over it. Other people are against it for very valid reasons too. I would suggest going through at least a few weeks of nothing before moving to fake just to help break that physical connection, and to make it suck more so you remember it!
Those are just my personal beliefs and experiences. There are lots of techniques here, you need to find which work for you. We will all agree that you need to stay very close to the site and embrace the suck. Being able to talk to people who have or are going through what you are during a quit is the most helpful thing ever. And remember how bad it sucks so you never go through it again. And know that it will get better if you put in the hard work.
Hope that helps. Shout if you need anything.
i "quit" countless times using gum or lozenges or patches or whatever. the only time it stuck was when i quit nicotine cold turkey. i did use the fake dip religously for several weeks and i think it got me through it. there is no getting around the absolute fucking suck of the first 3 days. you've got to put your big boy/girl pants on and suck it up. it was a decision to start poisoning yourself, it's a decision to quit. just decide to be quit for today, and it's too easy. tomorrow morning all you have to do is decide again.
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Sorry Crockett. Lightning Strikes fast.
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Poof.
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This is a traditional time to make changes in our lives and I want to extend a hand and leave a message for those that stumble in here looking for help in quitting their affair with smokeless tabacco. Thousands of us do it daily and you can too if your ready. I testify to you that if I (a 40+ year addict) can do it you can too. Quitting is simple (one day at a time ODAAT) but it is also one of the most difficult things you will ever do because we are addicts! Join us in the fun, you won't regret it. Happy Dipless New Year!
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It'd be great if everyone went and posted money they've saved by quitting in this thread today.
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This is a traditional time to make changes in our lives and I want to extend a hand and leave a message for those that stumble in here looking for help in quitting their affair with smokeless tabacco. Thousands of us do it daily and you can too if your ready. I testify to you that if I (a 40+ year addict) can do it you can too. Quitting is simple (one day at a time ODAAT) but it is also one of the most difficult things you will ever do because we are addicts! Join us in the fun, you won't regret it. Happy Dipless New Year!
I will re-iterate what my brother in quit here has said. The extension of the hand is also out there for spouses and significant others who are looking and hoping to have their counterpart quit. Do not push but rather educate and show them to our site. Let them see some of the things that fellow people who have gone through this process can offer to them.
Happy New Year and lets make this a Happy New You a well.