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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: rubbermittens on November 28, 2015, 12:04:00 AM
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Hi All, I am new here, I always knew this site existed but this is the 1st time I actually joined and am posting, I have been addicted to copenhagen now for almost 30 years, I have tried to quit on several occasions and my longest quit was a year. Anyway, I am done with it, tired of anything having any control over me, I want to get 100% healthy. I took my last dip, 7 days ago, the first 5 days were easy as pie, I just kept very busy and stayed on my motorcycle and went to sleep early, Had some minor headache but that was it, Now I have no headache, Im not really foggy as it is described, But To describe it, I will every now and then, feel a pulsing in my lower lip as if it is saying "FEED MEE" I resist the urge as I know its mental and Ive got to overcome it. I bought a ton of Jakes mint snuff and cowboy coffee chew and I only use that when the feed me urge comes. I joined the gym today hopefully that will keep me super busy.
The hardest thing I find is The association. I dipped all the time, when I played guitar, worked, after a jog, at work, to figure out a problem etc, such a big part was dipping, i mean i loved it but then it took over, at that point i knew i had to quit, that was 10 years ago, Today I have been quit 7 days, dont feel I need it physically, but man am fighting it mentally, Im gonna do this
thanks for listening
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Welcome! We overcome the mental part by posting roll as soon as we wake up every day. Roll is your promise to not use nicotine for the next 24 hours - it takes nicotine off the table for the entire day. Wake up and repeat the next day - we quit one day at a time (ODAAT).
I believe by your quit date you would be in the February group here...
February 2016 quit group (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11383298/236/#new)
Post early and often and you will find all the support that you will ever need here at KTC.
I quit with you today!
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Nice intro man.
In time you will look back and see that you didn't like it. That you didn't need it. That it didn't help you enjoy yourself. That you didn't have more fun because of it.
Nicotine takes. Money. Time. Health. Freedom. Self worth. Priorities. This list could go on all day, but it is a huge taker.
You are now taking back. It is hard to do at the beginning, but you are in the right place. We understand the struggles, but we also understand the rewards. Trust us when we promise better days ahead.
Welcome aboard sir. After 30 years, you are really gonna like the new you.
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Welcome mittens! You're on the right track... 7 days is a hell of a lot more then I ever got on my own. This stuff can really have a pull, both physical and psychological. I don't think all the time and energy expended to get a fix is understood until we quit. I remember tapping my pockets for the first couple months, checking for a ghost can. 'Crazy' Filling that time and expending that energy with healthy alternatives is a key to long term success. It's all right here. Some days that pull is weak but there are some days it's a real sob. Those are the days this place kicks in. By taking the next step, you guarantee continued success. Daily commitment unlocks the final shackle!
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So this is first time I have ever posted to anything, but here it goes. I have been wanting to quit for along time but I guess not bad enough. I hid it from everyone which never works out over the long run. On my last two visit back with my family, who I only see about once or twice a year, I was going to bed early, taking "naps", and crapping for an hour just to get a dip. I was losing time b/c of it. Well with all that said, I got sick about a week ago (in which I lose my desire for anything) I knew it would be a great place to start. my last dip was the evening before I got sick so the 22nd is my quit date. The upper respiratory infection is now gone, and the side-effects are beginning, and holy crap I don't know which are worse. I've been waking up at 2am, 3am, 4am, 5am, every night. In the last day I have had approx 6 sores in my mouth which I hope are normal from what I've read on here. I know the site has groups to join, and I hoping that someone who knows where to point me can help. I have never joined a forum before and I have no idea how to
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It is awesome to see two new quitters on this thread who want to take their lives back from nicotine!!
WV - I had never joined any boards before either. Don't worry, its not that hard, you will make some mistakes, and people will help you fix them.
Here is the link for roll call instructions: single/?p=109093t=1003072 (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=109093&t=1003072).
You will be in the February 2016 quit group.
Both you guys can do this! Don't be afraid. You are not alone here.
CJ
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It is awesome to see two new quitters on this thread who want to take their lives back from nicotine!!
WV - I had never joined any boards before either. Don't worry, its not that hard, you will make some mistakes, and people will help you fix them.
Here is the link for roll call instructions: single/?p=109093t=1003072 (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=109093&t=1003072).
You will be in the February 2016 quit group.
Both you guys can do this! Don't be afraid. You are not alone here.
CJ
WV - welcome! Listen to CJ! He gave you great advice. Read those links and post roll. You can do this!
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So I see that WV posted roll right the first time. That's great. Now copy your first post in rubbers intro and start your own intro and use it to track your journey. After you've been quit for a longer time it's easy to forget som details that help in remembering why we quit, how difficult it was at times and why we don't want to repeat the process.
Mittens I see that your first attempt to post roll was a little confusing. That's not uncommon, it can be confusing especially when we are in the fog of withdrawal. Keep on trying the others will help you get it right and soon it will be a natural part of your daily routine. The main thing just keep nicotine out of your system.
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Thanks all, yeah the posting roll thing, I got confused, too many steps involved, Im staying off this stuff, Im done with it, the funny thing is I had no plan AT ALL to quit at this time, I just went to 711 last week and they were out of copenhagen and the week before that it was stale copenhagen, At that point, I said eff this crap, why be addicted to something that (a) I can only get 1/2 the time and (b) something that when I can get it is stale which equals a waste of time for me.
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Thanks all, yeah the posting roll thing, I got confused, too many steps involved, Im staying off this stuff, Im done with it, the funny thing is I had no plan AT ALL to quit at this time, I just went to 711 last week and they were out of copenhagen and the week before that it was stale copenhagen, At that point, I said eff this crap, why be addicted to something that (a) I can only get 1/2 the time and (b) something that when I can get it is stale which equals a waste of time for me.
Look here rubber, 30 year's of addiction and you think you got this shit? Well let me give you a little advice BULLSHIT! I don't give a shit if you screw it up for a month ,go to March and figure out how to do it or you will be sucking that shit again. Ask me how I know because I dipped 38 years and tried quitting numerous times only to fail every single time, obviously just like you! Look you ain't getting any younger and 30 years is a lot of life to waste on such a disgusting ass habit! I quit with you!
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Nice intro man.
In time you will look back and see that you didn't like it. That you didn't need it. That it didn't help you enjoy yourself. That you didn't have more fun because of it.
Nicotine takes. Money. Time. Health. Freedom. Self worth. Priorities. This list could go on all day, but it is a huge taker.
You are now taking back. It is hard to do at the beginning, but you are in the right place. We understand the struggles, but we also understand the rewards. Trust us when we promise better days ahead.
Welcome aboard sir. After 30 years, you are really gonna like the new you.
This here. I was a long time user, always though I loved it until I found this wonderful place.
All of that is just mental bull crap in your head bud. In time, you will see that you didn't likeep it as you thought you did.
Congrats on your quit. One day at a time. Post roll and make some friends.
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Thanks all, yeah the posting roll thing, I got confused, too many steps involved, Im staying off this stuff, Im done with it, the funny thing is I had no plan AT ALL to quit at this time, I just went to 711 last week and they were out of copenhagen and the week before that it was stale copenhagen, At that point, I said eff this crap, why be addicted to something that (a) I can only get 1/2 the time and (b) something that when I can get it is stale which equals a waste of time for me.
Look here rubber, 30 year's of addiction and you think you got this shit? Well let me give you a little advice BULLSHIT! I don't give a shit if you screw it up for a month ,go to March and figure out how to do it or you will be sucking that shit again. Ask me how I know because I dipped 38 years and tried quitting numerous times only to fail every single time, obviously just like you! Look you ain't getting any younger and 30 years is a lot of life to waste on such a disgusting ass habit! I quit with you!
seems as if you mis interpreted my post, I have been quit for like 10 days now, have not went back to it, have no desire for it at this point, kind of dont understand your hostility actually its kind of strange
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Thanks all, yeah the posting roll thing, I got confused, too many steps involved, Im staying off this stuff, Im done with it, the funny thing is I had no plan AT ALL to quit at this time, I just went to 711 last week and they were out of copenhagen and the week before that it was stale copenhagen, At that point, I said eff this crap, why be addicted to something that (a) I can only get 1/2 the time and (b) something that when I can get it is stale which equals a waste of time for me.
Look here rubber, 30 year's of addiction and you think you got this shit? Well let me give you a little advice BULLSHIT! I don't give a shit if you screw it up for a month ,go to March and figure out how to do it or you will be sucking that shit again. Ask me how I know because I dipped 38 years and tried quitting numerous times only to fail every single time, obviously just like you! Look you ain't getting any younger and 30 years is a lot of life to waste on such a disgusting ass habit! I quit with you!
Not to mention, it really isnt that hard to stop doing something if you decide you want to, its the staying quit that is difficult, I know i can do a year easy, yeah the first few weeks suck its after that year that is the hard part. and when I say 30 years, well i started dipping 30 years ago but that was like very limited it didnt become a heavy duty thing until like 20 years ago, and recently the past 5 years (1) can of cope every 2 days, but the whole time i was awake I would have a dip in
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Thanks all, yeah the posting roll thing, I got confused, too many steps involved, Im staying off this stuff, Im done with it, the funny thing is I had no plan AT ALL to quit at this time, I just went to 711 last week and they were out of copenhagen and the week before that it was stale copenhagen, At that point, I said eff this crap, why be addicted to something that (a) I can only get 1/2 the time and (b) something that when I can get it is stale which equals a waste of time for me.
Look here rubber, 30 year's of addiction and you think you got this shit? Well let me give you a little advice BULLSHIT! I don't give a shit if you screw it up for a month ,go to March and figure out how to do it or you will be sucking that shit again. Ask me how I know because I dipped 38 years and tried quitting numerous times only to fail every single time, obviously just like you! Look you ain't getting any younger and 30 years is a lot of life to waste on such a disgusting ass habit! I quit with you!
Not to mention, it really isnt that hard to stop doing something if you decide you want to, its the staying quit that is difficult, I know i can do a year easy, yeah the first few weeks suck its after that year that is the hard part. and when I say 30 years, well i started dipping 30 years ago but that was like very limited it didnt become a heavy duty thing until like 20 years ago, and recently the past 5 years (1) can of cope every 2 days, but the whole time i was awake I would have a dip in
Maybe I can help explain...
This place will teach you how to quit, but you have to buy in to the process got it to work. Buying in means posting roll. Every single one of us fucked posting roll up the first 20 times we did it. Every one of us. But in order for us to be successful, we kept trying. It is part of the process dude.
Posting roll is our commitment to ourselves and each other that we will stay nicotine free for the day. We postbourbpromise, we keep our word. When you put your name on that list, others in your group that are going through the same shit at the same time as you reach out and the brotherhood starts building. Yeah I know it sounds crazy. It isn't. It works.
We don't quit for a year. We don't worry about day 366. We quit for today. I felt the same way you did when I joined, but less than a month from now I will be hitting 3 years - all one day at a time.
I got chewed out pretty good by some veterans on this site when I joined cause I was pretty sure I had it all figured out too. I reluctantly gave in and started posting roll every day, and haven't missed a day since. This is too important to do otherwise. I hope you to the same. There is no other plan that works.
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well I posted roll today again and I think I got it right , Don't mind getting chewed out for cause but otherwise not cool
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well I posted roll today again and I think I got it right , Don't mind getting chewed out for cause but otherwise not cool
Rubber, glad to see you posted roll! Like we say here, the only way to screw up Roll, is not being on it! Drink the kool-aid and get this done. It's worth every damn second of a little ass chewing. Put your big boy britches on and quit on. 30 years is a long time to be able to quit for a year before you need help. Stay active and get numbers from some quitters, you may be bad enough on your own, bit I've seen several not so strong not need any help and have caved. Don't be that guy! Damn proud to be quit with you!
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well I posted roll today again and I think I got it right , Don't mind getting chewed out for cause but otherwise not cool
If you need any help along the way - don't hesitate to reach out. It gets so much better. What you are feeling now isn't the new you. You are really gonna like what is ahead.
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If someone gets a chance, Could they check and see if I posted roll correctly this morning?
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If someone gets a chance, Could they check and see if I posted roll correctly this morning?
Close. Two things to pay attention to:
1. CUT (Ctrl X) not COPY (CTRL C)
this empties the lower input box (the "quote box" that is filled when you select "quote" to post roll) you get a cleaner post this way.
2. post your moniker and days with the "new bad ass quitters" -- you will scroll up in the input box to find this part. The very bottom of the box will be "support"
Quit on, this too gets easier.
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So, It appears that I am now addicted to Jakes spearmint Chew, When I wake I want after I eat I want, While I work I want......I just feel that need to have something in my lip Hopefully that subsides. The good thing is, I don't miss the Nicotine, Not at all, In retrospect, it was a filthy nasty habit, that eventually began to consume me
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Mittens keep up the good work. Use this intro to keep track of your journey. Don't worry about getting addicted to the fake stuff. I used it regularly for over 100 days and then kept a can around for another year. Gradually the desire (need) disappeared.
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Mittens keep up the good work. Use this intro to keep track of your journey. Don't worry about getting addicted to the fake stuff. I used it regularly for over 100 days and then kept a can around for another year. Gradually the desire (need) disappeared.
RM, you are still in the infancy of this thing. 16 days is badass, but not nearly enough to rid yourself of the damage from years of addiction. Keep the fake handy for awhile. By almost all accounts on here, the attachment to it will subside eventually to the point where you won't want it any more.
Do whatever it takes for now to keep nic out of your mouth. The rest will take care of itself.
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The lack of responses to your intro may tell you that, you might have taken the wrong approach in this section. Read some others and see if you can be inspired to try again.
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You are new to your quit as you only have 22 posts. Use the tools you have and keep them close. A lot of people use the fake to get through the fog and the suck of quitting. It is not fun as after the first 3 days it is all mental dependence on dip. Just use it and eventually you will wean yourself off the fake. I was very much the same way but after awhile I quit craving the fake as well. The reason you lose your drive toward the fake is no nicotine is involved to keep you addicted. Remember nicotine is the enemy not the habit of having something between your lip and gum.
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I say do what it takes to not use the nic.
If you have to use the fake, seeds, gum, candy, jerky, then use it.
I did, and I eventually stopped, it was fairly natural.
I couldn't find it much at Walmart, and that helped, but every once in a while at certain times, I'll dip some coffee grounds.
But now at 250+ days I really don't use anything much. But I know I am an addict and I know I crave things, might not be nic at the time, but I get craves for "something" through the day or week.
Don't beat yourself up for that oral fixation thing.. be glad you are quit and move on, it will pass.
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I say do what it takes to not use the nic.
If you have to use the fake, seeds, gum, candy, jerky, then use it.
I did, and I eventually stopped, it was fairly natural.
I couldn't find it much at Walmart, and that helped, but every once in a while at certain times, I'll dip some coffee grounds.
But now at 250+ days I really don't use anything much. But I know I am an addict and I know I crave things, might not be nic at the time, but I get craves for "something" through the day or week.
Don't beat yourself up for that oral fixation thing.. be glad you are quit and move on, it will pass.
RM, keep using your original introduction. People think this is your only intro.
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Mittens keep up the good work. Use this intro to keep track of your journey. Don't worry about getting addicted to the fake stuff. I used it regularly for over 100 days and then kept a can around for another year. Gradually the desire (need) disappeared.
RM, you are still in the infancy of this thing. 16 days is badass, but not nearly enough to rid yourself of the damage from years of addiction. Keep the fake handy for awhile. By almost all accounts on here, the attachment to it will subside eventually to the point where you won't want it any more.
Do whatever it takes for now to keep nic out of your mouth. The rest will take care of itself.
RM, I bought 10 cans of fake when I first quit just to be prepared. I only used it once during a really bad day in the 80's right before I hit the Hall of Fame. The point is to fill up your toolbox with as many tools as you can to stay quit. Phone Numbers , friends, atomic fireballs, fake dip, seeds, exercise, and a lot of reading here, and of course posting roll everyday. You got this.
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A filthy nasty habit is picking your nose. We share an addiction that will kill us if we don't quit every day. Jake's won't kill you.
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sorry i did not realize i should keep using my original intro lesson learned
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Keep on rocking your quit Rubber. I know it sounds stupid but you will be amazed how much better you will feel even just a few more days from now. Embrace this time and burn it into your memory cells. That way you can tell yourself "I never want to go through this foggy SUCK again."
Good luck quit on and keep kickin ass! Nice job
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R Mittens, I'm a little concerned about your roll posts the last few days - you seem to keep posting a day "16". I think that watching my day count grow helped strengthen my quit. I know this place is ODAAT but I think milestones are important too. You might want to start keeping better track of your quit day.
I quit with you today.