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Title: My Introduction
Post by: rhester03 on February 02, 2011, 12:50:00 PM
Hello Everyone. Today is my third day tobacco free, and my first day on the site. I had been toying with the idea of quitting my Redman habbit for a few weeks, and then something strange happened a few days ago that led to my choice to quit on the 1st of Feb.

The strange thing that happened was that on the 30th of Jan, the last pinch in the bag was just enough for my last pinch of the night as I was setttling in for the evening. The next day, the 31st, I got busy at work and never had a chance to get to the store to buy more. When I woke up on the 1st, I had the realization that I had just completed my first tobacco free day in the last 8 years. So why stop at one, I decided that now is the time to take back my life.

Conservatively I would chew 14-16 hours a day. When I got up I would throw one in and I would take out my last one as I was falling asleep. I used to joke that the only time I didn't have a dip in was when I was putting in a fresh one. Now after making my decision to quit, I think of that with sadness. What is funny about that? What is funny about poisoning yourself for the greater portion of every day? What excuses do we make to justify poisoning ourselves? How do you continue to lie to yourself that "chewing tobacco is better than dip because the whole leaf isn't as harsh on your gums." How do you keep telling yourself, "it'll never happen to me" when it has already started, your teeth are stained to the point you are embarrased to smile, and you find out the hard way that the "hairy tongue" from the poster at the dentist office isn't a myth afterall.

Honestly, I can't even think of why I started to begin with. I was in my Junior year in college, I wasn't pressured by my peers, but so many of them were dipping that one day I tried it to see what all the fuss was about. That was 10 years ago. I didn't become a full time user until I was in the Army, of which I have been a proud member for 8 years.

I am currently deployed in Iraq, and so it seems like a strange place to want to quit, however quitting now means I will reach my 100 days in May, which coincides with the birth of my daughter. After reading Jenny and Tom Kern's Story, the thought of not being able to see her grow up is more than I can bear.

So far the cravings haven't been too bad, though I know they will come soon, I have had a dull headache for the last two days, and the sores are starting to pop up in my mouth.

Thanks for putting up with my rant, We are all in this together.
Title: Re: My Introduction
Post by: jaygib on February 02, 2011, 01:04:00 PM
Welcome to the party. Just survive today and worry about later, later. Thanks for serving and congrats with the daughter on the way. Daughters are awesome
Title: Re: My Introduction
Post by: andrew on February 02, 2011, 01:36:00 PM
PUSSY


Just kidding. Welcome aboard. Start posting role and take it one day at a time.

Days 1-4 will feel numb, 4-10 will suck, and then it will start to get better...

You can steal any of my 14 cans of Hooch that got sent over here. They sent me twice my order anyway, so I'll give you half if you want it.

Also, you cannot cave, and I will be watching you.



Now:

Boobies.

'boob' 'boob' 'boob' '40' '40' '40'
Title: Re: My Introduction
Post by: Bean on February 02, 2011, 03:55:00 PM
Day 3 is huge. Congrats!!!
Title: Re: My Introduction
Post by: shortround on February 02, 2011, 05:52:00 PM
Awesome, congrats hester! Keep on pushing through the suck.

Great decision, you got this shit.
Title: Re: My Introduction
Post by: loot on February 02, 2011, 05:54:00 PM
Quote from: rhester03
Hello Everyone. Today is my third day tobacco free, and my first day on the site. I had been toying with the idea of quitting my Redman habbit for a few weeks, and then something strange happened a few days ago that led to my choice to quit on the 1st of Feb.

The strange thing that happened was that on the 30th of Jan, the last pinch in the bag was just enough for my last pinch of the night as I was setttling in for the evening. The next day, the 31st, I got busy at work and never had a chance to get to the store to buy more. When I woke up on the 1st, I had the realization that I had just completed my first tobacco free day in the last 8 years. So why stop at one, I decided that now is the time to take back my life.

Conservatively I would chew 14-16 hours a day. When I got up I would throw one in and I would take out my last one as I was falling asleep. I used to joke that the only time I didn't have a dip in was when I was putting in a fresh one. Now after making my decision to quit, I think of that with sadness. What is funny about that? What is funny about poisoning yourself for the greater portion of every day? What excuses do we make to justify poisoning ourselves? How do you continue to lie to yourself that "chewing tobacco is better than dip because the whole leaf isn't as harsh on your gums." How do you keep telling yourself, "it'll never happen to me" when it has already started, your teeth are stained to the point you are embarrased to smile, and you find out the hard way that the "hairy tongue" from the poster at the dentist office isn't a myth afterall.

Honestly, I can't even think of why I started to begin with. I was in my Junior year in college, I wasn't pressured by my peers, but so many of them were dipping that one day I tried it to see what all the fuss was about. That was 10 years ago. I didn't become a full time user until I was in the Army, of which I have been a proud member for 8 years.

I am currently deployed in Iraq, and so it seems like a strange place to want to quit, however quitting now means I will reach my 100 days in May, which coincides with the birth of my daughter. After reading Jenny and Tom Kern's Story, the thought of not being able to see her grow up is more than I can bear.

So far the cravings haven't been too bad, though I know they will come soon, I have had a dull headache for the last two days, and the sores are starting to pop up in my mouth.

Thanks for putting up with my rant, We are all in this together.
Damned fine first post.

Make #2 Roll Call.

Welcome to the site.
Title: Re: My Introduction
Post by: Maverick55 on February 02, 2011, 09:05:00 PM
Quote from: rhester03
Hello Everyone. Today is my third day tobacco free, and my first day on the site. I had been toying with the idea of quitting my Redman habbit for a few weeks, and then something strange happened a few days ago that led to my choice to quit on the 1st of Feb.

The strange thing that happened was that on the 30th of Jan, the last pinch in the bag was just enough for my last pinch of the night as I was setttling in for the evening. The next day, the 31st, I got busy at work and never had a chance to get to the store to buy more. When I woke up on the 1st, I had the realization that I had just completed my first tobacco free day in the last 8 years. So why stop at one, I decided that now is the time to take back my life.

Conservatively I would chew 14-16 hours a day. When I got up I would throw one in and I would take out my last one as I was falling asleep. I used to joke that the only time I didn't have a dip in was when I was putting in a fresh one. Now after making my decision to quit, I think of that with sadness. What is funny about that? What is funny about poisoning yourself for the greater portion of every day? What excuses do we make to justify poisoning ourselves? How do you continue to lie to yourself that "chewing tobacco is better than dip because the whole leaf isn't as harsh on your gums." How do you keep telling yourself, "it'll never happen to me" when it has already started, your teeth are stained to the point you are embarrased to smile, and you find out the hard way that the "hairy tongue" from the poster at the dentist office isn't a myth afterall.

Honestly, I can't even think of why I started to begin with. I was in my Junior year in college, I wasn't pressured by my peers, but so many of them were dipping that one day I tried it to see what all the fuss was about. That was 10 years ago. I didn't become a full time user until I was in the Army, of which I have been a proud member for 8 years.

I am currently deployed in Iraq, and so it seems like a strange place to want to quit, however quitting now means I will reach my 100 days in May, which coincides with the birth of my daughter. After reading Jenny and Tom Kern's Story, the thought of not being able to see her grow up is more than I can bear.

So far the cravings haven't been too bad, though I know they will come soon, I have had a dull headache for the last two days, and the sores are starting to pop up in my mouth.

Thanks for putting up with my rant, We are all in this together.
My hat's off to you! Thank you for your service first and foremost - second welcome to the site! You've obviously made a great choice, if you need a number for someone to lean on, don't be afraid to ask for mine!

Read, Read, Read - you'll do fine.
Title: Re: My Introduction
Post by: rhester03 on February 03, 2011, 05:08:00 AM
Thanks everyone for the support. Thanks to Andrew for the Hooch. The hardest part so far is getting past the triggers, like I just got done eating, so I'm supposed to have a dip in....or my body thinks so. My mind knows not to.
Title: Re: My Introduction
Post by: tarpon17 on February 03, 2011, 11:53:00 AM
Quote from: rhester03
Thanks everyone for the support. Thanks to Andrew for the Hooch. The hardest part so far is getting past the triggers, like I just got done eating, so I'm supposed to have a dip in....or my body thinks so. My mind knows not to.
and always remember, you can never, ever, ever have just one more. You're an addict and you'll go back to the can or pouch. No good reason to ever do that shit again. If so, go back and read your original post. You said it all right there. Continue on and shoot some of those bastards for me.

tarp
Title: Re: My Introduction
Post by: rhester03 on February 04, 2011, 05:10:00 AM
Although it sounds crazy, I think quitting in Iraq is easier than it would be to try to quit back home. For instance, I don't have to go into the gas station I always buy tobacco in and see it sitting on the shelf next to the register. Also, since we don't have a typical daily routine or schedule like back home, a lot of the "scheduled dips." aren't there, so there are fewer triggers. The hardest part so far is right after lunch, and when I am in my office late at night.
Title: Re: My Introduction
Post by: brianl on February 04, 2011, 07:30:00 AM
Welcome Soldier!!
Andrew told us you were coming. Thank you for your service and thank you for making the best decision of your life.

PM me if I can help in any way.

Stay Alert, Stay Alive, Stay Quit.

Brian
Title: Re: My Introduction
Post by: iscream22 on February 04, 2011, 12:34:00 PM
Quote from: rhester03
Thanks everyone for the support. Thanks to Andrew for the Hooch. The hardest part so far is getting past the triggers, like I just got done eating, so I'm supposed to have a dip in....or my body thinks so. My mind knows not to.
I know what you mean dude, i just finished lunch myself and it always used to be my treat to reach for a pouch. I guess i'll start substituting something else for my post meal treat. Perhaps those little cans of shredded beef jerky, that'll probably help with the oral fixation as well.
Title: Re: My Introduction
Post by: iscream22 on February 04, 2011, 12:37:00 PM
Quote from: brianl
Welcome Soldier!!
Andrew told us you were coming. Thank you for your service and thank you for making the best decision of your life.

PM me if I can help in any way.

Stay Alert, Stay Alive, Stay Quit.

Brian
Nice sig pic Brian im a deadhead myself. I was lucky enough to catch Jerry before he died when i was a kid. It was around 1994 or so and there was a free show in Vermont, good times.
Title: Re: My Introduction
Post by: rhester03 on February 07, 2011, 09:42:00 AM
Quote from: brianl
Welcome Soldier!!
Andrew told us you were coming. Thank you for your service and thank you for making the best decision of your life.

PM me if I can help in any way.

Stay Alert, Stay Alive, Stay Quit.

Brian
I wasn't actually the ones that Andrew was talking about. We have two other guys that are quitting, and we are gaining momentum. There are also a couple of other guys that I think want to quit, but aren't quite ready to take the step.
Title: Re: My Introduction
Post by: Greg5280 on February 07, 2011, 01:21:00 PM
Quote from: rhester03
Quote from: brianl
Welcome Soldier!!
Andrew told us you were coming. Thank you for your service and thank you for making the best decision of your life.

PM me if I can help in any way.

Stay Alert, Stay Alive, Stay Quit.

Brian
I wasn't actually the ones that Andrew was talking about. We have two other guys that are quitting, and we are gaining momentum. There are also a couple of other guys that I think want to quit, but aren't quite ready to take the step.
Fuckin A... good shit right here !!

I will repeat the "Thank You" for what you do !!

Great decision to stop dipping ! Welcome to the party. If you need anything just sing out...

Stay Quit
Greg
Title: Re: My Introduction
Post by: rhester03 on February 08, 2011, 01:19:00 AM
I have had a little trouble sleeping the last two nights, nothing major though, but I've noticed I can wake up and get moving a lot easier than when I was on nic. The wierd thing is though that the first instinct when I get up in the morning is to reach for the non-existant pouch that used to be next to my bed. It is wierd how you feel better when you are off it, but you still feel like you want it. Just a thought...Not going to cave today!
Title: Re: My Introduction
Post by: Larry Drummer on February 08, 2011, 08:09:00 AM
Quote from: rhester03
I have had a little trouble sleeping the last two nights, nothing major though, but I've noticed I can wake up and get moving a lot easier than when I was on nic. The wierd thing is though that the first instinct when I get up in the morning is to reach for the non-existant pouch that used to be next to my bed. It is wierd how you feel better when you are off it, but you still feel like you want it. Just a thought...Not going to cave today!
I've felt the same way Rhester. Last night, I dreamed I caved...Not really sleeping solid. Waking up several times during the night. Sleeping in patches. But waking up early feeling ready to go. Crazy. Staying quit with you!
Title: Re: My Introduction
Post by: rhester03 on February 09, 2011, 03:59:00 AM
I have recently noticed that I have been consuming quite a bit more caffine than I used to. Has anyone else experienced that after quitting?
Title: Re: My Introduction
Post by: Longy22 on February 09, 2011, 07:21:00 AM
Quote from: rhester03
I have recently noticed that I have been consuming quite a bit more caffine than I used to. Has anyone else experienced that after quitting?
I have recently noticed that I have been consuming quite a bit more caffine than I used to. Has anyone else experienced that after quitting?

My result was oppsite, with nic I was drinking 12+ cups of coffee each day, the last week I have had 1 or 2 a day. I'm just not into it anymore without the happy ending dip.
Title: Re: My Introduction
Post by: Larry Drummer on February 09, 2011, 07:27:00 AM
I'm eating like a cow. Prob gained 5 lb. in a 7 day quit. But I just need to maybe drop and give 20 when a crave hits rather than stuff a beef jerky in my face.
Title: Re: My Introduction
Post by: Longy22 on February 09, 2011, 07:27:00 AM
Quote from: rhester03
I have had a little trouble sleeping the last two nights, nothing major though, but I've noticed I can wake up and get moving a lot easier than when I was on nic. The wierd thing is though that the first instinct when I get up in the morning is to reach for the non-existant pouch that used to be next to my bed. It is wierd how you feel better when you are off it, but you still feel like you want it. Just a thought...Not going to cave today!
I have also noticed that I wake up much easier since I've been quit, my days are beginning much earlier. I wonder if there is something chemically that is allowing this?? As far as reaching for your chew, place a mouse trap in that spot and I give it 2 days, you'll break yourself of that habit.
Title: Re: My Introduction
Post by: cubs204 on February 09, 2011, 08:55:00 AM
Quote from: Longy22
Quote from: rhester03
I have had a little trouble sleeping the last two nights, nothing major though, but I've noticed I can wake up and get moving a lot easier than when I was on nic.  The wierd thing is though that the first instinct when I get up in the morning is to reach for the non-existant pouch that used to be next to my bed.  It is wierd how you feel better when you are off it, but you still feel like you want it.  Just a thought...Not going to cave today!
I have also noticed that I wake up much easier since I've been quit, my days are beginning much earlier. I wonder if there is something chemically that is allowing this?? As far as reaching for your chew, place a mouse trap in that spot and I give it 2 days, you'll break yourself of that habit.
Early on I used aTylenol PM to help with the sleeping and it really did give me some rest. As far as the reaching for the pouch, there are still times I pat my back pocket


Its been 679 days since there was anything in it
Title: Re: My Introduction
Post by: jaygib on February 09, 2011, 09:11:00 AM
Quote from: cubs204
Quote from: Longy22
Quote from: rhester03
I have had a little trouble sleeping the last two nights, nothing major though, but I've noticed I can wake up and get moving a lot easier than when I was on nic.  The wierd thing is though that the first instinct when I get up in the morning is to reach for the non-existant pouch that used to be next to my bed.  It is wierd how you feel better when you are off it, but you still feel like you want it.  Just a thought...Not going to cave today!
I have also noticed that I wake up much easier since I've been quit, my days are beginning much earlier. I wonder if there is something chemically that is allowing this?? As far as reaching for your chew, place a mouse trap in that spot and I give it 2 days, you'll break yourself of that habit.
Early on I used aTylenol PM to help with the sleeping and it really did give me some rest. As far as the reaching for the pouch, there are still times I pat my back pocket


Its been 679 days since there was anything in it
Shoot it's been almost 5 years since my divorce but there are still times I reach at the ring finger expecting to have that band there to twist. Nicotine and wives will eff up your brain :)
Title: Re: My Introduction
Post by: cubs204 on February 09, 2011, 09:13:00 AM
Quote from: jaygib
Quote from: cubs204
Quote from: Longy22
Quote from: rhester03
I have had a little trouble sleeping the last two nights, nothing major though, but I've noticed I can wake up and get moving a lot easier than when I was on nic.  The wierd thing is though that the first instinct when I get up in the morning is to reach for the non-existant pouch that used to be next to my bed.  It is wierd how you feel better when you are off it, but you still feel like you want it.  Just a thought...Not going to cave today!
I have also noticed that I wake up much easier since I've been quit, my days are beginning much earlier. I wonder if there is something chemically that is allowing this?? As far as reaching for your chew, place a mouse trap in that spot and I give it 2 days, you'll break yourself of that habit.
Early on I used aTylenol PM to help with the sleeping and it really did give me some rest. As far as the reaching for the pouch, there are still times I pat my back pocket


Its been 679 days since there was anything in it
Shoot it's been almost 5 years since my divorce but there are still times I reach at the ring finger expecting to have that band there to twist. Nicotine and wives will eff up your brain :)
Awesome....I get married in June


:blink:
Title: Re: My Introduction
Post by: rhester03 on February 09, 2011, 09:54:00 AM
Quote from: cubs204
Quote from: jaygib
Quote from: cubs204
Quote from: Longy22
Quote from: rhester03
I have had a little trouble sleeping the last two nights, nothing major though, but I've noticed I can wake up and get moving a lot easier than when I was on nic.  The wierd thing is though that the first instinct when I get up in the morning is to reach for the non-existant pouch that used to be next to my bed.  It is wierd how you feel better when you are off it, but you still feel like you want it.  Just a thought...Not going to cave today!
I have also noticed that I wake up much easier since I've been quit, my days are beginning much earlier. I wonder if there is something chemically that is allowing this?? As far as reaching for your chew, place a mouse trap in that spot and I give it 2 days, you'll break yourself of that habit.
Early on I used aTylenol PM to help with the sleeping and it really did give me some rest. As far as the reaching for the pouch, there are still times I pat my back pocket


Its been 679 days since there was anything in it
Shoot it's been almost 5 years since my divorce but there are still times I reach at the ring finger expecting to have that band there to twist. Nicotine and wives will eff up your brain :)
Awesome....I get married in June


:blink:
Good Luck, I'm coming up on 2 years married.
Title: Re: My Introduction
Post by: rhester03 on February 10, 2011, 03:59:00 AM
So I just got back from the dentist, where I found that each of the spots where my gum had receded I have cavities. Fuck the Nic Bitch. I am 29 years old and have never had a cavity in my life, and I now have gotten three in the last year. I have to go back next week to get them filled in, I can only hope that they don't result in root canal.

Just solidifies the commitment to never go back to the bitch.
Title: Re: My Introduction
Post by: rhester03 on February 15, 2011, 03:12:00 AM
I just wanted to let everyone know I will be out of town for a day or two, I am bringing my computer with me, but in the event I don't have anywhere to plug it in, I am still quit, and my not posting roll does not mean I've caved.
Title: Re: My Introduction
Post by: brianl on February 15, 2011, 06:11:00 AM
Quote from: rhester03
I just wanted to let everyone know I will be out of town for a day or two, I am bringing my computer with me, but in the event I don't have anywhere to plug it in, I am still quit, and my not posting roll does not mean I've caved.
PM me and I will give you cell phone number. If you can't plug your computer in then call or text me and I will post for you.

PS.... you should be getting numbers from your Quit group as well.

Brian
Title: Re: My Introduction
Post by: andrew on February 15, 2011, 06:39:00 AM
Quote from: brianl
Quote from: rhester03
I just wanted to let everyone know I will be out of town for a day or two, I am bringing my computer with me, but in the event I don't have anywhere to plug it in, I am still quit, and my not posting roll does not mean I've caved.
PM me and I will give you cell phone number. If you can't plug your computer in then call or text me and I will post for you.

PS.... you should be getting numbers from your Quit group as well.

Brian
He's in Iraq dude.




I'll have contact with him, however sporadic that may be. If he doesn't have access he doesn't have access, nothing he can do about it.
Title: Re: My Introduction
Post by: brianl on February 15, 2011, 10:23:00 AM
Quote from: andrew
Quote from: brianl
Quote from: rhester03
I just wanted to let everyone know I will be out of town for a day or two, I am bringing my computer with me, but in the event I don't have anywhere to plug it in, I am still quit, and my not posting roll does not mean I've caved.
PM me and I will give you cell phone number. If you can't plug your computer in then call or text me and I will post for you.

PS.... you should be getting numbers from your Quit group as well.

Brian
He's in Iraq dude.




I'll have contact with him, however sporadic that may be. If he doesn't have access he doesn't have access, nothing he can do about it.
My Bad........

In that case, Stay Alert/Stay Alive/Stay Quit.
Title: Re: My Introduction
Post by: rhester03 on February 17, 2011, 04:21:00 AM
I've been to the PX a couple of times in the past two days, one of which was a trailer where the checkout is completely surrounded by tobacco. I didn't even bat an eye, didn't even think about it, even with it staring me in the face. They may as well have been feminine hygene products.
Title: Re: My Introduction
Post by: Larry Drummer on February 17, 2011, 07:37:00 AM
Quote from: rhester03
I've been to the PX a couple of times in the past two days, one of which was a trailer where the checkout is completely surrounded by tobacco. I didn't even bat an eye, didn't even think about it, even with it staring me in the face. They may as well have been feminine hygene products.
You're the MAN Rhester! Stay strong!!
Title: Re: My Introduction
Post by: Greg5280 on February 17, 2011, 01:15:00 PM
Quote from: Larry
Quote from: rhester03
I've been to the PX a couple of times in the past two days, one of which was a trailer where the checkout is completely surrounded by tobacco.  I didn't even bat an eye, didn't even think about it, even with it staring me in the face.  They may as well have been feminine hygene products.
You're the MAN Rhester! Stay strong!!
Enjoy the victories as they come. It is amazing how good life can be without that shit in your face..

Well done !!
Title: Re: My Introduction
Post by: rhester03 on March 07, 2011, 01:48:00 AM
As I have recently gone past 30 days, I wanted to give an update. I have yet to have a dip dream, but then I have never been one to remember my dreams, so who knows for sure. The wall of Tobacco at the PX doesn't phase me any more, and I'm at the point that when I see someone else dipping I get a little chuckle and think to myself "I'm glad I don't do that any more." I still have a few cravings after meals, but now I don't even use the fake stuff any more. Although I enjoyed some of the flavors, it dried out too quickly, so when i ran out, I just quit the same way I quit the real stuff.

I told our Battalion Doc about the website, support group, and the fake dip, and she actually called me this morning wanting to refer it to other Soldiers who come to her for Tobacco Cessation. She said she is surprised the number of Soldiers who are wanting to quit over here, which is great news because smokeless tobacco is such a huge part of the military culture. I guess may of the Soldiers realized there are enough ways to die over here without poisoning themselves on top of it.
Title: Re: My Introduction
Post by: andrew on March 07, 2011, 08:56:00 AM
Quote from: rhester03
As I have recently gone past 30 days, I wanted to give an update. I have yet to have a dip dream, but then I have never been one to remember my dreams, so who knows for sure. The wall of Tobacco at the PX doesn't phase me any more, and I'm at the point that when I see someone else dipping I get a little chuckle and think to myself "I'm glad I don't do that any more." I still have a few cravings after meals, but now I don't even use the fake stuff any more. Although I enjoyed some of the flavors, it dried out too quickly, so when i ran out, I just quit the same way I quit the real stuff.

I told our Battalion Doc about the website, support group, and the fake dip, and she actually called me this morning wanting to refer it to other Soldiers who come to her for Tobacco Cessation. She said she is surprised the number of Soldiers who are wanting to quit over here, which is great news because smokeless tobacco is such a huge part of the military culture. I guess may of the Soldiers realized there are enough ways to die over here without poisoning themselves on top of it.
Great, you told the BN doc about it? I hope you mentioned my name and recommended me for an award.
Title: Re: My Introduction
Post by: Scowick65 on March 07, 2011, 09:08:00 AM
Quote from: rhester03
As I have recently gone past 30 days, I wanted to give an update. I have yet to have a dip dream, but then I have never been one to remember my dreams, so who knows for sure. The wall of Tobacco at the PX doesn't phase me any more, and I'm at the point that when I see someone else dipping I get a little chuckle and think to myself "I'm glad I don't do that any more." I still have a few cravings after meals, but now I don't even use the fake stuff any more. Although I enjoyed some of the flavors, it dried out too quickly, so when i ran out, I just quit the same way I quit the real stuff.

I told our Battalion Doc about the website, support group, and the fake dip, and she actually called me this morning wanting to refer it to other Soldiers who come to her for Tobacco Cessation. She said she is surprised the number of Soldiers who are wanting to quit over here, which is great news because smokeless tobacco is such a huge part of the military culture. I guess may of the Soldiers realized there are enough ways to die over here without poisoning themselves on top of it.
Just to add to your thoughts. I am at 87. I never had a dip dream until 70 or so. For what ever reason, the 60s and 70s were the hardest for me. I did not have the cravings, just depression, or what seems to be called the blahs. That has past. The past two weeks have been awesome. So, you may still have some struggles, but it is so worth it.

Keep up the great work!
Title: Re: My Introduction
Post by: Greg5280 on March 07, 2011, 01:39:00 PM
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: rhester03
As I have recently gone past 30 days, I wanted to give an update.  I have yet to have a dip dream, but then I have never been one to remember my dreams, so who knows for sure.  The wall of Tobacco at the PX doesn't phase me any more, and I'm at the point that when I see someone else dipping I get a little chuckle and think to myself "I'm glad I don't do that any more."  I still have a few cravings after meals, but now I don't even use the fake stuff any more.  Although I enjoyed some of the flavors, it dried out too quickly, so when i ran out, I just quit the same way I quit the real stuff. 

I told our Battalion Doc about the website, support group, and the fake dip, and she actually called me this morning wanting to refer it to other Soldiers who come to her for Tobacco Cessation.  She said she is surprised the number of Soldiers who are wanting to quit over here, which is great news because smokeless tobacco is such a huge part of the military culture.  I guess may of the Soldiers realized there are enough ways to die over here without poisoning themselves on top of it.
Just to add to your thoughts. I am at 87. I never had a dip dream until 70 or so. For what ever reason, the 60s and 70s were the hardest for me. I did not have the cravings, just depression, or what seems to be called the blahs. That has past. The past two weeks have been awesome. So, you may still have some struggles, but it is so worth it.

Keep up the great work!
The 70's are a very strange time. Be prepared. You have the tools must make sure you use them.
Title: Re: My Introduction
Post by: BeerBottleSpittoon on March 08, 2011, 01:13:00 AM
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Quote from: rhester03
As I have recently gone past 30 days, I wanted to give an update.  I have yet to have a dip dream, but then I have never been one to remember my dreams, so who knows for sure.  The wall of Tobacco at the PX doesn't phase me any more, and I'm at the point that when I see someone else dipping I get a little chuckle and think to myself "I'm glad I don't do that any more."  I still have a few cravings after meals, but now I don't even use the fake stuff any more.  Although I enjoyed some of the flavors, it dried out too quickly, so when i ran out, I just quit the same way I quit the real stuff. 

I told our Battalion Doc about the website, support group, and the fake dip, and she actually called me this morning wanting to refer it to other Soldiers who come to her for Tobacco Cessation.  She said she is surprised the number of Soldiers who are wanting to quit over here, which is great news because smokeless tobacco is such a huge part of the military culture.  I guess may of the Soldiers realized there are enough ways to die over here without poisoning themselves on top of it.
Just to add to your thoughts. I am at 87. I never had a dip dream until 70 or so. For what ever reason, the 60s and 70s were the hardest for me. I did not have the cravings, just depression, or what seems to be called the blahs. That has past. The past two weeks have been awesome. So, you may still have some struggles, but it is so worth it.

Keep up the great work!
The 70's are a very strange time. Be prepared. You have the tools must make sure you use them.
rhester -

I was in basic training at Fort Leonardwood, Mo. in 1992 when I got my first taste of the nic. My battle buddy from Louisiana bought a pack of smokes (somehow) and we snuck out onto the the 2nd story concrete ledge outside our window for a smoke in the middle of the night. That was it. Smokes turned into dip shortly after getting out. And then the years went by.

I'm working on my quit. I post every day. I read what others have to say and I appreciate this site.

To you rhester and all of my military friends. I am quit with you.
Title: Re: My Introduction
Post by: rhester03 on March 16, 2011, 02:20:00 PM
So I'm finally just about done with the dental work. The dentist filled three cavities today...luckily they were all pretty superficial so I didn't need a root canal and all less than a year old because I didn't have them when I inprocessed post last march. Of course Had I not been chewing tobacco, they cavities wouldn't have been there to begin with....

The good part is that since I quit chewing, the dentist will do the molds so I can do the whitening....and its free.
Title: Re: My Introduction
Post by: rhester03 on April 21, 2011, 09:35:00 AM
I thought I'd give an update here on Day 80. I made it successfully through the 70's that I had been warned so heavily about. Work picked up so much during the time that several days I almost forgot to post roll. Though it sucked being that busy, I think it helped me signifcantly in getting through unscathed.

A few weeks ago, I did have to break down and tell my wife that I quit. I was planning on waiting until going home on RR to see if she noticed and to surprise her, but I guess things got stressful for her on the homefront for a while and she was taking it out on me. Rather than fighting back, which wouldn't have solved anything, I broke down and told her that I quit and couldn't deal with arguing because of withdrawls and she was pleasantly surprised. She couldn't believe that I was quitting while in Iraq. She asked why I quit and I forwarded her the link to the Kern story, and told her that by coincidence my 100th day is the due date for our little girl.

No doubt there are still cravings, and the fleeting thoughts of having "just one." but they are manageable now. I haven't had any dip dreams that I'm aware of, but I never remembered dreams before I quit either. For certain I feel better without my heart racing all the time. I also don't have to worry about how I'm going to get to the PX before I run out of chew.

Despite being deployed, I've found that believe it or not, you can fish without a dip, and you can also grill without a dip in. I will have to wait until I'm home on leave to find out if you can cut the grass without a dip in, but I'm thinking its possible since you can fish without it...

Thanks for the support.
Title: Re: My Introduction
Post by: J2b on April 21, 2011, 09:43:00 AM
Rhester,

Thanks for all that you do. Congrats on the 80, and early congrats on the little girl.

Its good to be quit with you.

Stay safe, stay quit.