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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: HamminCheeseinacan on September 15, 2014, 04:29:00 PM
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I just stumbled across this site with searching for tips on quitting. I'll give you some backstory. My first dip was when I was 15. I had a upperclassman on my hockey team snag me a tin from the local gas station. First dip ever was a Skoal Green Apple and it made me crazy sick. The next day I found a sucker friend to take the tin off my hands as I didnt think I'd ever touch the stuff again. Fast forward 2 years and now it became a regular thing. Every pre practice or road trip there would be about 10 - 15 guys chewing. It became ingrained with hockey. Even after highschool every hockey team I played on there was always that group of people. College dorm rooms didnt allow smoking so chewing was there right beside me. I started working and chewing made me function. It was my stress ball. Then they cut down the times that I was allowed to chew in the office to only breaks. I would sneak off for 10 - 15 min for a dip twice a day, but realized that when work was over there was a constant lipper until I went to bed. The mornings werent bad. I was able to hold off until my first break, but after work all bets were off. Its been about 10 years since I started and on Sept. 28th I turn 26. I chose the 28th as my start QUIT day. Idk why I chose that date specifically but thats when I would like to do it. Ive heard of tobacco and nicotine less chew but have yet to see any in stores. ( Fond du Lac and Oshkosh WI areas ). If theres anyone that can offer tips, tricks of the trade, etc... it would be a major help. I know this is going to be one of the most challenging things I have ever done but I want this for me and I'm willing to sacrifice to finish this right. I would like to thank you all in advance.
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TIP #1 don't wait!
Quit now (right now)! Post roll and just do it! Put as much effort into quitting as you've put into making sure you always got your fix.
TIP #2 check Walmart!
They usually carry smokey Mountian. (The worst thing it's behind the tobacco counter.
TIP # 3 immerse yourself in this website
Become even more active on the site and especially with your quit group than you think is possible.
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Hambone, you will not quit on the 28th for the very same reason you won't quit right now. There are thousands of quitters here at KTC and every single one of them know this fact. We are experienced nicotine addicts. so, my advice is to toss that poison right now, flush it down the toilet, go look in the mirror and admit you are an addict, Post Roll here at KTC tonight, wake up in the morning and do it again. Ask yourself this, "What are you waiting for?" You either quit or you don't.
Mogul
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What ^^^ these guys said. Plus....... the real you is the person that is here looking for help Quitting. The addict is the one wanting to set a date. The addict will plead, reason, lie, and trick you into delaying so that you actually never start. You can do this. The REAL you longs to post that DAY 1 and take your life and freedom back. You can do this. PM me if you want some extra support.
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Let's take a look at a couple scenarios.
1. You quit on Sept. 28, your birthday. You say you're not going to have any dip that day, because you've made a resolution. You make it to about 11 AM before the craves get unbearable. "It's my birthday," you say. "I don't want to spend the whole day in this hell." You go out and buy a can. We all know how that one goes.
2. You quit on Sept. 28, your birthday. You say you're not going to have any dip that day, because you've made a resolution. And you don't! Congratulations, you're quit one day. Your birthday is also a living hell, as are the next two days. You can't drink, because you'll cave. You're an asshole to all your friends. Years later, you'll say the day was so hazy you can barely remember your birthday.
3. The moment you read this, you take the dip out of your mouth (just a guess based on personal experience, no offense intended). You throw it down the toilet. You search out any evidence of dip, any cans and spitters any dried out tobacco from where you spilled and throw it out. You post roll NOW, promising not to have any more tobacco / nicotine today. You do that tomorrow. And the next day. Sept. 26 rolls around ... you are on Day 14, all the physical craves are gone and you're feeling great. You're starting to see through the haze, and you can enjoy the day knowing you are quit for good, because you'll continue quitting One Day At A Time.
Just a thought.
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Let's take a look at a couple scenarios.
1. You quit on Sept. 28, your birthday. You say you're not going to have any dip that day, because you've made a resolution. You make it to about 11 AM before the craves get unbearable. "It's my birthday," you say. "I don't want to spend the whole day in this hell." You go out and buy a can. We all know how that one goes.
2. You quit on Sept. 28, your birthday. You say you're not going to have any dip that day, because you've made a resolution. And you don't! Congratulations, you're quit one day. Your birthday is also a living hell, as are the next two days. You can't drink, because you'll cave. You're an asshole to all your friends. Years later, you'll say the day was so hazy you can barely remember your birthday.
3. The moment you read this, you take the dip out of your mouth (just a guess based on personal experience, no offense intended). You throw it down the toilet. You search out any evidence of dip, any cans and spitters any dried out tobacco from where you spilled and throw it out. You post roll NOW, promising not to have any more tobacco / nicotine today. You do that tomorrow. And the next day. Sept. 26 rolls around ... you are on Day 14, all the physical craves are gone and you're feeling great. You're starting to see through the haze, and you can enjoy the day knowing you are quit for good, because you'll continue quitting One Day At A Time.
Just a thought.
I would choose number 3 for my birthday. very realistic scenario Canless.
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Why not be 12 days nicotine free by your birthday, best damn present you ever gave yourself. Plus you'll be starting to feel better by then.
Canless is right, why go through nicotine withdrawals on your birthday?
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Canless is right, why go through nicotine withdrawals on your birthday?
What he said
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I thank you all for your words of wisdom. I see the fact that starting the quit on my bday would be a bad idea. And as of now I am struggling with the addict side. The reasoning and bargining and all that jazz. I intend to go to Wally World and see if they do infact carry the tobacco less chew. I dont know if picking up a can of that would be such a good idea though. It takes care of the oral fixation but I feel like it may also just push me right back down that damn hole. As for starting so abrubtly, its not something I'm comfortable with. I would like it to be possible that I would wein myself slowly to that date and then just cut if off completly but I also know that the addict in me will reason and bargin again. tobacco is a hell of a drug.
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I thank you all for your words of wisdom. I see the fact that starting the quit on my bday would be a bad idea. And as of now I am struggling with the addict side. The reasoning and bargining and all that jazz. I intend to go to Wally World and see if they do infact carry the tobacco less chew. I dont know if picking up a can of that would be such a good idea though. It takes care of the oral fixation but I feel like it may also just push me right back down that damn hole. As for starting so abrubtly, its not something I'm comfortable with. I would like it to be possible that I would wein myself slowly to that date and then just cut if off completly but I also know that the addict in me will reason and bargin again. tobacco is a hell of a drug.
Of course you're uncomfortable with Quitting. It's uncomfortable. You're an addict.
But I'm nothing special. If I can do this, so can you.
Someone once said, "The Possible...is boring."
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I thank you all for your words of wisdom. I see the fact that starting the quit on my bday would be a bad idea. And as of now I am struggling with the addict side. The reasoning and bargining and all that jazz. I intend to go to Wally World and see if they do infact carry the tobacco less chew. I dont know if picking up a can of that would be such a good idea though. It takes care of the oral fixation but I feel like it may also just push me right back down that damn hole. As for starting so abrubtly, its not something I'm comfortable with. I would like it to be possible that I would wein myself slowly to that date and then just cut if off completly but I also know that the addict in me will reason and bargin again. tobacco is a hell of a drug.
Of course you're uncomfortable with Quitting. It's uncomfortable. You're an addict.
But I'm nothing special. If I can do this, so can you.
Someone once said, "The Possible...is boring."
Do or Do Not, there is no Try.
It's your decision ODAAT.
You're not here by accident.
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Ham,
Nolaq is right. If you wait until you're comfortable, it'll never happen. The things you have to know straight off the bat:
1. It will be hell. You never hear a drug addict say "Wow, that was a breeze!". What you hopefully hear them say is "Thank God I did it. It was the toughest thing I ever did, but I saved my life." Same goes for nicotine, because it's a drug and we're addicted to it.
2. You're right about the oral fixation. Different things work for different people. I chewed jerky and am now transitioning to coffee grinds. After I hit 100 days I'm hoping to keep some fake around just for emergencies. But others never touch it.
The moral of the story: by the time your birthday rolls around, now you'll have one day fewer quit. And if you don't do it today, it'll be the same story tomorrow. And when your birthday gets here you'll still be a dippin mofo! And then, well hell now you don't have that deadline anymore so you can just do it whenever, right?
WRONG. We're here for support man, but you gotta take that first step. Let us know when you're ready.
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PS — if it sounds like I'm being harsh it's only because I thought I could do the same thing for a while. Many of us did. Thought we were stronger and could easily wean themselves off. The problem with the weaning strategy is as follows:
1. (I'm really liking numbered bulletpoints today) Ask yourself when do you stop weaning and quit? So let's say you start off at a can per day. And then you spread that out over two days. And then again. Now you're at one can every four days. Awesome! Well let's split that in half. One can every eight days? Nice. Well, where do you stop? If you keep "weaning" yourself down you'll never have that realization that "one more" is NOT okay. You'll always have that nagging urge that says, "you haven't dipped in ages. you weaned yourself off ... you're not even addicted anymore." And that's a serious problem.
2. Say you're having just one dip per day. Well that's pretty great. EXCEPT, it means you're going through the first 24 hours of withdrawal EVERY DAY. Why the hell would you want to do that to yourself? Life will be awful. You'll be in a constant haze for weeks. And your mind will convince you that you couldn't handle this quit and that you need to go back to dipping.
ADMINS / VETS: Does anyone know of a good link that talks about the, uhh, "special butterfly" effect? I've read some good stuff but can't remember. Think this might apply here.
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PS — if it sounds like I'm being harsh it's only because I thought I could do the same thing for a while. Many of us did. Thought we were stronger and could easily wean themselves off. The problem with the weaning strategy is as follows:
1. (I'm really liking numbered bulletpoints today) Ask yourself when do you stop weaning and quit? So let's say you start off at a can per day. And then you spread that out over two days. And then again. Now you're at one can every four days. Awesome! Well let's split that in half. One can every eight days? Nice. Well, where do you stop? If you keep "weaning" yourself down you'll never have that realization that "one more" is NOT okay. You'll always have that nagging urge that says, "you haven't dipped in ages. you weaned yourself off ... you're not even addicted anymore." And that's a serious problem.
2. Say you're having just one dip per day. Well that's pretty great. EXCEPT, it means you're going through the first 24 hours of withdrawal EVERY DAY. Why the hell would you want to do that to yourself? Life will be awful. You'll be in a constant haze for weeks. And your mind will convince you that you couldn't handle this quit and that you need to go back to dipping.
ADMINS / VETS: Does anyone know of a good link that talks about the, uhh, "special butterfly" effect? I've read some good stuff but can't remember. Think this might apply here.
Well, being the dick that I am. I think Hambone needs to go check his underwear to make sure he still has two balls. Then when he is ready to realize that United States Tobacco has a big cock up his ass and no lube maybe he will use those said balls to come on here and quit. Up until that point I think we are done here.
Mogul
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PS — if it sounds like I'm being harsh it's only because I thought I could do the same thing for a while. Many of us did. Thought we were stronger and could easily wean themselves off. The problem with the weaning strategy is as follows:
1. (I'm really liking numbered bulletpoints today) Ask yourself when do you stop weaning and quit? So let's say you start off at a can per day. And then you spread that out over two days. And then again. Now you're at one can every four days. Awesome! Well let's split that in half. One can every eight days? Nice. Well, where do you stop? If you keep "weaning" yourself down you'll never have that realization that "one more" is NOT okay. You'll always have that nagging urge that says, "you haven't dipped in ages. you weaned yourself off ... you're not even addicted anymore." And that's a serious problem.
2. Say you're having just one dip per day. Well that's pretty great. EXCEPT, it means you're going through the first 24 hours of withdrawal EVERY DAY. Why the hell would you want to do that to yourself? Life will be awful. You'll be in a constant haze for weeks. And your mind will convince you that you couldn't handle this quit and that you need to go back to dipping.
ADMINS / VETS: Does anyone know of a good link that talks about the, uhh, "special butterfly" effect? I've read some good stuff but can't remember. Think this might apply here.
Well, being the dick that I am. I think Hambone needs to go check his underwear to make sure he still has two balls. Then when he is ready to realize that United States Tobacco has a big cock up his ass and no lube maybe he will use those said balls to come on here and quit. Up until that point I think we are done here.
Mogul
Grab your sack Ham! Don't be a puss.
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Alright the quit has started. Got home from work and tossed all cans n stoons. I appreciate the "tough love". I'm better than this shite and it's time to start acting like it.
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Alright the quit has started. Got home from work and tossed all cans n stoons. I appreciate the "tough love". I'm better than this shite and it's time to start acting like it.
You're damn right your are! Now go post in December and post every day! Research the site get your knowledge base built. Get phone numbers from your group and from other groups too. Check your pm for mine.
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Post roll, you should be on Day 2. Make a promise and dive into the system.....it only saves lives ya know.
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Alright the quit has started. Got home from work and tossed all cans n stoons. I appreciate the "tough love". I'm better than this shite and it's time to start acting like it.
Yes you are better than that crap. And your life is worth an immeasurable amount to the people who love you and count on you. Keep that killer attitude about nicotine, just make the final decision that you are done with it, and never look back. I'm quit today and so are you. Awesome decision.
Mogul
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First hardest thing is taking the plunge and quitting.
Second one is keeping your word and posting Day 2. And Day 3. And Day 4. Don't see that "Day 2" on roll Ham, what gives?
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So, I'm about 4 hours now into my first quit day. Its been an interesting morning thats for sure. For the past maybe 2-3 years I've woken up in the morning, done my routine, and tossed a lipper in on my way to work. First day without it, and I actually enjoyed my car ride to work this morning. I even got to enjoy a morning rock session and sang along the entire way to work. Something that wasnt possible before with a dip in. As usual work is alway stressful for me, but this morning seems to be going better than most. I'm a little more tired than usual, but that doesnt really bother me. I know that is going to be a long day and Im fully prepaired to work through this. Im just not looking forward to the shit that I'll have to put up with during the quit. 'flush'
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Wait, you said you quit on the 16th, let me dig that up. We only get one intro.
EDIT, so you stopped on the 16th and caved? Please explain.
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Yeah, here it is.
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Stopped then caved. Nuff said
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Thumblewort-Why should it matter. You offer yourself as a support group for people like you and myself that are trying to quit. Why chastize someone for doing what so many other people have done. You joined and then a month later quit. whats your deal. Pleases explain.
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You caved after a day, I don't owe you shit. Answer the 3 questions or piss off.
1. What happened?
2. Why did it happen?
3. What will you do differently this time?
On second thought, I will answer. I wore a patch for 30 days from March 6, the day I made this account. I posted roll, and promptly created a shitstorm. I removed myself from roll, and lurked on this site until I grew a set of balls and took the patch off April 4th.
Back to you, doosh.
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Thumblewort-Why should it matter. You offer yourself as a support group for people like you and myself that are trying to quit. Why chastize someone for doing what so many other people have done. You joined and then a month later quit. whats your deal. Pleases explain.
It matters because that's how it works. Our support would mean nothing if we just said, "oh, you caved, that's great have a cookie." Thumblewort is a strong quitter, you'd be lucky to have his support in this quit.
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and i dont owe you shite either. Well congrats on using your pussy patch and im glad it worked out for you. Now if you dont want to be fucking supportive of my fight, feck off.
1. Tossed a lipper in
2. due to the fact the some arogant duche (not you) on here pissed me off so i said fuck it and tossed one in.
3. Im going to keep my mouth plastered all over your wifes pussy so i wont have to toss a dip in.
Now finally back to you, you arrogant tard. 'Finger'
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twballgame9 - dont want his help
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twballgame9 - dont want his help
Then don't bother.
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If it weren't for the better diction, I'd say Bobby Cumbubbles is back. U Mr. xbox.
Please do pleasure my wife, that is more time for World of Warcraft for me!
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and i dont owe you shite either. Well congrats on using your pussy patch and im glad it worked out for you. Now if you dont want to be fucking supportive of my fight, feck off.
1. Tossed a lipper in
2. due to the fact the some arogant duche (not you) on here pissed me off so i said fuck it and tossed one in.
3. Im going to keep my mouth plastered all over your wifes pussy so i wont have to toss a dip in.
Now finally back to you, you arrogant tard. 'Finger'
Hey, good luck!
You've got all the answers. Check in later, we're all really excited about your quit!
We need more guys like this. Just like I need crabs.
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Thumblewort- no shit WOW? Talk about growing a set. So let me guess, you quit so you could have many more years of happiness with your family. Does your family include Doritos, Taco Bell, Pepsi, and and your fav. jerk off mag? Im suprised anyone would stick around with a pos like yourself
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and i dont owe you shite either. Well congrats on using your pussy patch and im glad it worked out for you. Now if you dont want to be fucking supportive of my fight, feck off.
1. Tossed a lipper in
2. due to the fact the some arogant duche (not you) on here pissed me off so i said fuck it and tossed one in.
3. Im going to keep my mouth plastered all over your wifes pussy so i wont have to toss a dip in.
Now finally back to you, you arrogant tard. 'Finger'
Hey, good luck!
You've got all the answers. Check in later, we're all really excited about your quit!
We need more guys like this. Just like I need crabs.
Now there is some twisted logic. Someone here pissed him off so you thru in a lipper. Shit the over and under on someone with that attitude can't be more than a week.
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Thumblewort-Why should it matter. You offer yourself as a support group for people like you and myself that are trying to quit. Why chastize someone for doing what so many other people have done. You joined and then a month later quit. whats your deal. Pleases explain.
Have you read anything on the site?
From our mission statement, "We realize that there are a variety of ways to be successful quitting chew. We will NOT tell you that one way is better than another, but we will tell you our experience and what has worked for us. We will also tell you when you are doing something counterproductive to your quit."
If you aren't interested in hearing people with real experience quitting, find another site.
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Wait, you said you quit on the 16th, let me dig that up. We only get one intro.
EDIT, so you stopped on the 16th and caved? Please explain.
Thats where this shit stemmed from.
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and i dont owe you shite either. Well congrats on using your pussy patch and im glad it worked out for you. Now if you dont want to be fucking supportive of my fight, feck off.
1. Tossed a lipper in
2. due to the fact the some arogant duche (not you) on here pissed me off so i said fuck it and tossed one in.
3. Im going to keep my mouth plastered all over your wifes pussy so i wont have to toss a dip in.
Now finally back to you, you arrogant tard. 'Finger'
Hey, good luck!
You've got all the answers. Check in later, we're all really excited about your quit!
We need more guys like this. Just like I need crabs.
Now there is some twisted logic. Someone here pissed him off so you thru in a lipper. Shit the over and under on someone with that attitude can't be more than a week.
Dont worry itll be much longer than a week.
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Thumblewort- no shit WOW? Talk about growing a set. So let me guess, you quit so you could have many more years of happiness with your family. Does your family include Doritos, Taco Bell, Pepsi, and and your fav. jerk off mag? Im suprised anyone would stick around with a pos like yourself
Dude, how old are you? You should aspire to be half the quitter and supporter of other quits Thumble is. He asked you one simple thing and you fly off the handle? Nice ... you've got a long way to come. Of course, there's always a chance you'll throw in another lipper just to piss us off because we were arrogant.
'Finger' 'Crazy'
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and i dont owe you shite either. Well congrats on using your pussy patch and im glad it worked out for you. Now if you dont want to be fucking supportive of my fight, feck off.
1. Tossed a lipper in
2. due to the fact the some arogant duche (not you) on here pissed me off so i said fuck it and tossed one in.
3. Im going to keep my mouth plastered all over your wifes pussy so i wont have to toss a dip in.
Now finally back to you, you arrogant tard. 'Finger'
Hey, good luck!
You've got all the answers. Check in later, we're all really excited about your quit!
We need more guys like this. Just like I need crabs.
Now there is some twisted logic. Someone here pissed him off so you thru in a lipper. Shit the over and under on someone with that attitude can't be more than a week.
Dont worry itll be much longer than a week.
Trust me, I have absolutely no worries at all where you are concerned.
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and i dont owe you shite either. Well congrats on using your pussy patch and im glad it worked out for you. Now if you dont want to be fucking supportive of my fight, feck off.
1. Tossed a lipper in
2. due to the fact the some arogant duche (not you) on here pissed me off so i said fuck it and tossed one in.
3. Im going to keep my mouth plastered all over your wifes pussy so i wont have to toss a dip in.
Now finally back to you, you arrogant tard. 'Finger'
Hey, good luck!
You've got all the answers. Check in later, we're all really excited about your quit!
We need more guys like this. Just like I need crabs.
Now there is some twisted logic. Someone here pissed him off so you thru in a lipper. Shit the over and under on someone with that attitude can't be more than a week.
Dont worry itll be much longer than a week.
Bro- calm down, shut your mouth, do some reading.
You are a fucking disaster right now.
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and i dont owe you shite either. Well congrats on using your pussy patch and im glad it worked out for you. Now if you dont want to be fucking supportive of my fight, feck off.
1. Tossed a lipper in
2. due to the fact the some arogant duche (not you) on here pissed me off so i said fuck it and tossed one in.
3. Im going to keep my mouth plastered all over your wifes pussy so i wont have to toss a dip in.
Now finally back to you, you arrogant tard. 'Finger'
Hey, good luck!
You've got all the answers. Check in later, we're all really excited about your quit!
We need more guys like this. Just like I need crabs.
Now there is some twisted logic. Someone here pissed him off so you thru in a lipper. Shit the over and under on someone with that attitude can't be more than a week.
Dont worry itll be much longer than a week.
10 days?
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There are a lot of arrogant douches in here right now, including myself. Try to fight the urge to say fuck it and throw 20 dips in.
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im thinking itll be more than 6 months
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Thumblewort-Why should it matter. You offer yourself as a support group for people like you and myself that are trying to quit. Why chastize someone for doing what so many other people have done. You joined and then a month later quit. whats your deal. Pleases explain.
Have you read anything on the site?
From our mission statement, "We realize that there are a variety of ways to be successful quitting chew. We will NOT tell you that one way is better than another, but we will tell you our experience and what has worked for us. We will also tell you when you are doing something counterproductive to your quit."
If you aren't interested in hearing people with real experience quitting, find another site.
would you rather have a pat on the ass and for us to tell you it's ok to fail? Your family and friends might do that... we will not. You are an addict. Addicts don't do well with gentle. Addicts don't do well without consequences. When you post up your day 1 here you should understand that failure has consequences. Face them- own your failure.
Addicts are liars. We are here to tell you the truth.
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im good now. Had a mood swing and took it out on an easy target.
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im thinking itll be more than 6 months
Congrats on your planned cave. You don't get it.
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I find more humor in this than i probably should.
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If raging on me is keeping you quit, keep going. It's one of the services the KTC offers. Just keep it here and not in real life.
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I find more humor in this than i probably should.
Me too. That's the sad part
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Its my first quit day. Looking for a rollcall I can post to every morning or anytime a crave / mood rushes over.
topic/10564902/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/10564902/)
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I find more humor in this than i probably should.
Me too. That's the sad part
it IS fucking hysterical! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH7mjpl3U1w)
roflmao
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Listen. This all in good fun. Im not in any way that big of a asshole. This is truely my first day quitting. I get that theres going to be ragging on me for this and that. I just ask that you keep it respectful. Its what youll get in return. easy right? Be a douche, you get the douche. be respectful and then so will I.
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Listen. This all in good fun. Im not in any way that big of a asshole. This is truely my first day quitting. I get that theres going to be ragging on me for this and that. I just ask that you keep it respectful. Its what youll get in return. easy right? Be a douche, you get the douche. be respectful and then so will I.
I frankly don't give a rat's ass what you want the rules to be. You're looking for help, you don't get to set the rules. You don't like the way you get treated, find a softer, kinder site for your support. They are out there.
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touchy touchy
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touchy touchy
Trust me, I will have forgotten you by the time I click "ESPN" up at the top of the screen.
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no hair off my chest
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no hair off my chest
Why did you come here? If you weren't successful in quitting on your own, why do you act like you don't need anybody's help here?
You make jokes about your cave? Fuck you. Come back when you are serious 'Finger'
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If raging on me is keeping you quit, keep going. It's one of the services the KTC offers. Just keep it here and not in real life.
'worship'
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no hair off my chest
Why did you come here? If you weren't successful in quitting on your own, why do you act like you don't need anybody's help here?
You make jokes about your cave? Fuck you. Come back when you are serious 'Finger'
Ham and cheese - I just ate you for lunch. Now I'm gonna eat your lunch. You wanna play ball? Post the 3 answers and they need to be introspective. They aren't for us, they're for you so you can figure out what caused the cave and handle it better. You don't wanna play ball, I believe your other January brothers should push back and demand reasonable, truthful answers before you are allowed to post again.
If and when you do, your name goes at the top under quitters. The bottom is for those that support January. No answers, move along.
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It takes thick skin and a whole lot of guts to quit.
I am not so sure you have either.
On 9/16 you opened your ears long enough to listen to a bunch of guys telling you that waiting/weaning until tomorrow was a bad idea. You claimed you were quit. All it took was someone pissing you off, and you caved (your words).
In the 12/13 days since then, have you suddenly changed enough to quit for real? Or is this just another stoppage until some anonymous prick on an internet forum pisses you off again?
See, we have been where you are. At various times we all set a quit date and had a great plan for tomorrows that never came. If you read any intro's or HOF speeches you will see that we are unique individuals with essentially the same addict story. It is not pretty, and its filled with lies and slowly killing ourselves while stealing time from our loved ones.
Why are you here if not for what KTC can offer you? When you put your name on the line with us, it is a promise that come hell or high water you wont use for that day. We dont ask for anything other than a promise of nicotine free for the next 24 hours. Wake up the next morning and do it again.
The three questions are not meant for us - they are meant for you. You are being asked to examine your addict self, and determine why this time is different. To do that, you need to understand what went wrong and why it went wrong last time. Reading around yesterday, I saw a good description of how to answer those questions (sorry, cant remember who posted it) - pretend you are answering them in a room and no one else will ever hear the answers.
Can you be honest enough with yourself to dig deep and face your addiction? Do you have the guts to fight through cravings and rages and every other mental game that is about to rain down on you? Don't tell us - prove it. Answer the three questions. Tell us why you are here. Show us you are not afraid to face your addiction and fight; you will see what kind of support army you have behind you.
Or dont, and in two weeks this intro will be buried with all the others who just didnt have the courage to quit.
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Ham,
I am in the January 15 Quit Group. I have read through the posts on here and seen as others have reached out to you. Look man, I am doing this for real. I hope you are too. I want all of my brothers (and sister) to take this seriously.
I have dipped for 25 years. I have tried to quit in the past, but they turned out to just be stops. I would ninja dip until I was caught too many times. Then I would just say screw hiding it. It almost cost me my marriage on more than one occasion. Now, because of health issues, this quit cannot be another stop. I have to be successful. I will be successful.
Here's the thing. I NEED brothers to go through this with me. I need those who understand where I have been and what it takes to kick this to the curb where it belongs! I need guys who I can text when I am fighting a hard crave to help talk me through it. I want to be that for my brothers as well. So what I am asking from you is to take this seriously. It is going to be tougher than hell. There are going to be times where you are going to want to quit the quit, but you can't let that win out. I need my brothers to be strong as I will be strong for them.
From what I have read, you screwed up. You caved. That sucks. I wish it didn't happen to you, but you can't change that it did. But what you can do is not get offended because we ask you to answer the 3 questions. The answers are for you, not because we have anything to personally gain from your answers. To turn on the guys who were trying to help you succeed and who truly understand what you go through when quitting and get into a name-calling, disgusting and shameful conversation is wrong.
After you have read this, you have a choice. Are you going to own up to being an addict, answer the questions, promise to quit everyday and post it with us and be successful? Or are you going to call me names and tell me that you don't owe me anything? The choice is yours. But truth be told, I CAN'T have brothers that I am going to have to coddle through this. I need them to be tough and stand up to this horrible addiction with me. So what do you say?
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Ham,
I am in the January 15 Quit Group. I have read through the posts on here and seen as others have reached out to you. Look man, I am doing this for real. I hope you are too. I want all of my brothers (and sister) to take this seriously.
I have dipped for 25 years. I have tried to quit in the past, but they turned out to just be stops. I would ninja dip until I was caught too many times. Then I would just say screw hiding it. It almost cost me my marriage on more than one occasion. Now, because of health issues, this quit cannot be another stop. I have to be successful. I will be successful.
Here's the thing. I NEED brothers to go through this with me. I need those who understand where I have been and what it takes to kick this to the curb where it belongs! I need guys who I can text when I am fighting a hard crave to help talk me through it. I want to be that for my brothers as well. So what I am asking from you is to take this seriously. It is going to be tougher than hell. There are going to be times where you are going to want to quit the quit, but you can't let that win out. I need my brothers to be strong as I will be strong for them.
From what I have read, you screwed up. You caved. That sucks. I wish it didn't happen to you, but you can't change that it did. But what you can do is not get offended because we ask you to answer the 3 questions. The answers are for you, not because we have anything to personally gain from your answers. To turn on the guys who were trying to help you succeed and who truly understand what you go through when quitting and get into a name-calling, disgusting and shameful conversation is wrong.
After you have read this, you have a choice. Are you going to own up to being an addict, answer the questions, promise to quit everyday and post it with us and be successful? Or are you going to call me names and tell me that you don't owe me anything? The choice is yours. But truth be told, I CAN'T have brothers that I am going to have to coddle through this. I need them to be tough and stand up to this horrible addiction with me. So what do you say?
I say BRAVO shane. That was a seriously badass post. 'oh yeah'
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Ham,
I am in the January 15 Quit Group. I have read through the posts on here and seen as others have reached out to you. Look man, I am doing this for real. I hope you are too. I want all of my brothers (and sister) to take this seriously.
I have dipped for 25 years. I have tried to quit in the past, but they turned out to just be stops. I would ninja dip until I was caught too many times. Then I would just say screw hiding it. It almost cost me my marriage on more than one occasion. Now, because of health issues, this quit cannot be another stop. I have to be successful. I will be successful.
Here's the thing. I NEED brothers to go through this with me. I need those who understand where I have been and what it takes to kick this to the curb where it belongs! I need guys who I can text when I am fighting a hard crave to help talk me through it. I want to be that for my brothers as well. So what I am asking from you is to take this seriously. It is going to be tougher than hell. There are going to be times where you are going to want to quit the quit, but you can't let that win out. I need my brothers to be strong as I will be strong for them.
From what I have read, you screwed up. You caved. That sucks. I wish it didn't happen to you, but you can't change that it did. But what you can do is not get offended because we ask you to answer the 3 questions. The answers are for you, not because we have anything to personally gain from your answers. To turn on the guys who were trying to help you succeed and who truly understand what you go through when quitting and get into a name-calling, disgusting and shameful conversation is wrong.
After you have read this, you have a choice. Are you going to own up to being an addict, answer the questions, promise to quit everyday and post it with us and be successful? Or are you going to call me names and tell me that you don't owe me anything? The choice is yours. But truth be told, I CAN'T have brothers that I am going to have to coddle through this. I need them to be tough and stand up to this horrible addiction with me. So what do you say?
I say BRAVO shane. That was a seriously badass post. 'oh yeah'
Agreed ... nice to see someone who gets it! Advice is spot on ... nicely done tshane!
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Ham,
I am in the January 15 Quit Group. I have read through the posts on here and seen as others have reached out to you. Look man, I am doing this for real. I hope you are too. I want all of my brothers (and sister) to take this seriously.
I have dipped for 25 years. I have tried to quit in the past, but they turned out to just be stops. I would ninja dip until I was caught too many times. Then I would just say screw hiding it. It almost cost me my marriage on more than one occasion. Now, because of health issues, this quit cannot be another stop. I have to be successful. I will be successful.
Here's the thing. I NEED brothers to go through this with me. I need those who understand where I have been and what it takes to kick this to the curb where it belongs! I need guys who I can text when I am fighting a hard crave to help talk me through it. I want to be that for my brothers as well. So what I am asking from you is to take this seriously. It is going to be tougher than hell. There are going to be times where you are going to want to quit the quit, but you can't let that win out. I need my brothers to be strong as I will be strong for them.
From what I have read, you screwed up. You caved. That sucks. I wish it didn't happen to you, but you can't change that it did. But what you can do is not get offended because we ask you to answer the 3 questions. The answers are for you, not because we have anything to personally gain from your answers. To turn on the guys who were trying to help you succeed and who truly understand what you go through when quitting and get into a name-calling, disgusting and shameful conversation is wrong.
After you have read this, you have a choice. Are you going to own up to being an addict, answer the questions, promise to quit everyday and post it with us and be successful? Or are you going to call me names and tell me that you don't owe me anything? The choice is yours. But truth be told, I CAN'T have brothers that I am going to have to coddle through this. I need them to be tough and stand up to this horrible addiction with me. So what do you say?
I say BRAVO shane. That was a seriously badass post. 'oh yeah'
Agreed ... nice to see someone who gets it! Advice is spot on ... nicely done tshane!
And on foggy day 2 - strong!
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Ham,
I am in the January 15 Quit Group. I have read through the posts on here and seen as others have reached out to you. Look man, I am doing this for real. I hope you are too. I want all of my brothers (and sister) to take this seriously.
I have dipped for 25 years. I have tried to quit in the past, but they turned out to just be stops. I would ninja dip until I was caught too many times. Then I would just say screw hiding it. It almost cost me my marriage on more than one occasion. Now, because of health issues, this quit cannot be another stop. I have to be successful. I will be successful.
Here's the thing. I NEED brothers to go through this with me. I need those who understand where I have been and what it takes to kick this to the curb where it belongs! I need guys who I can text when I am fighting a hard crave to help talk me through it. I want to be that for my brothers as well. So what I am asking from you is to take this seriously. It is going to be tougher than hell. There are going to be times where you are going to want to quit the quit, but you can't let that win out. I need my brothers to be strong as I will be strong for them.
From what I have read, you screwed up. You caved. That sucks. I wish it didn't happen to you, but you can't change that it did. But what you can do is not get offended because we ask you to answer the 3 questions. The answers are for you, not because we have anything to personally gain from your answers. To turn on the guys who were trying to help you succeed and who truly understand what you go through when quitting and get into a name-calling, disgusting and shameful conversation is wrong.
After you have read this, you have a choice. Are you going to own up to being an addict, answer the questions, promise to quit everyday and post it with us and be successful? Or are you going to call me names and tell me that you don't owe me anything? The choice is yours. But truth be told, I CAN'T have brothers that I am going to have to coddle through this. I need them to be tough and stand up to this horrible addiction with me. So what do you say?
I say BRAVO shane. That was a seriously badass post. 'oh yeah'
Agreed ... nice to see someone who gets it! Advice is spot on ... nicely done tshane!
And on foggy day 2 - strong!
x3. A gleaming bright spot in an absolute shithouse intro.
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Ham,
I am in the January 15 Quit Group. I have read through the posts on here and seen as others have reached out to you. Look man, I am doing this for real. I hope you are too. I want all of my brothers (and sister) to take this seriously.
I have dipped for 25 years. I have tried to quit in the past, but they turned out to just be stops. I would ninja dip until I was caught too many times. Then I would just say screw hiding it. It almost cost me my marriage on more than one occasion. Now, because of health issues, this quit cannot be another stop. I have to be successful. I will be successful.
Here's the thing. I NEED brothers to go through this with me. I need those who understand where I have been and what it takes to kick this to the curb where it belongs! I need guys who I can text when I am fighting a hard crave to help talk me through it. I want to be that for my brothers as well. So what I am asking from you is to take this seriously. It is going to be tougher than hell. There are going to be times where you are going to want to quit the quit, but you can't let that win out. I need my brothers to be strong as I will be strong for them.
From what I have read, you screwed up. You caved. That sucks. I wish it didn't happen to you, but you can't change that it did. But what you can do is not get offended because we ask you to answer the 3 questions. The answers are for you, not because we have anything to personally gain from your answers. To turn on the guys who were trying to help you succeed and who truly understand what you go through when quitting and get into a name-calling, disgusting and shameful conversation is wrong.
After you have read this, you have a choice. Are you going to own up to being an addict, answer the questions, promise to quit everyday and post it with us and be successful? Or are you going to call me names and tell me that you don't owe me anything? The choice is yours. But truth be told, I CAN'T have brothers that I am going to have to coddle through this. I need them to be tough and stand up to this horrible addiction with me. So what do you say?
I say BRAVO shane. That was a seriously badass post. 'oh yeah'
Agreed ... nice to see someone who gets it! Advice is spot on ... nicely done tshane!
And on foggy day 2 - strong!
x3. A gleaming bright spot in an absolute shithouse intro.
Echo this sentiment.
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Ham,
I am in the January 15 Quit Group. I have read through the posts on here and seen as others have reached out to you. Look man, I am doing this for real. I hope you are too. I want all of my brothers (and sister) to take this seriously.
I have dipped for 25 years. I have tried to quit in the past, but they turned out to just be stops. I would ninja dip until I was caught too many times. Then I would just say screw hiding it. It almost cost me my marriage on more than one occasion. Now, because of health issues, this quit cannot be another stop. I have to be successful. I will be successful.
Here's the thing. I NEED brothers to go through this with me. I need those who understand where I have been and what it takes to kick this to the curb where it belongs! I need guys who I can text when I am fighting a hard crave to help talk me through it. I want to be that for my brothers as well. So what I am asking from you is to take this seriously. It is going to be tougher than hell. There are going to be times where you are going to want to quit the quit, but you can't let that win out. I need my brothers to be strong as I will be strong for them.
From what I have read, you screwed up. You caved. That sucks. I wish it didn't happen to you, but you can't change that it did. But what you can do is not get offended because we ask you to answer the 3 questions. The answers are for you, not because we have anything to personally gain from your answers. To turn on the guys who were trying to help you succeed and who truly understand what you go through when quitting and get into a name-calling, disgusting and shameful conversation is wrong.
After you have read this, you have a choice. Are you going to own up to being an addict, answer the questions, promise to quit everyday and post it with us and be successful? Or are you going to call me names and tell me that you don't owe me anything? The choice is yours. But truth be told, I CAN'T have brothers that I am going to have to coddle through this. I need them to be tough and stand up to this horrible addiction with me. So what do you say?
I say BRAVO shane. That was a seriously badass post. 'oh yeah'
Agreed ... nice to see someone who gets it! Advice is spot on ... nicely done tshane!
And on foggy day 2 - strong!
x3. A gleaming bright spot in an absolute shithouse intro.
Echo this sentiment.
not gona lie, I read this and had to sit down I was so impressed. nicely put
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Ham,
I am in the January 15 Quit Group. I have read through the posts on here and seen as others have reached out to you. Look man, I am doing this for real. I hope you are too. I want all of my brothers (and sister) to take this seriously.
I have dipped for 25 years. I have tried to quit in the past, but they turned out to just be stops. I would ninja dip until I was caught too many times. Then I would just say screw hiding it. It almost cost me my marriage on more than one occasion. Now, because of health issues, this quit cannot be another stop. I have to be successful. I will be successful.
Here's the thing. I NEED brothers to go through this with me. I need those who understand where I have been and what it takes to kick this to the curb where it belongs! I need guys who I can text when I am fighting a hard crave to help talk me through it. I want to be that for my brothers as well. So what I am asking from you is to take this seriously. It is going to be tougher than hell. There are going to be times where you are going to want to quit the quit, but you can't let that win out. I need my brothers to be strong as I will be strong for them.
From what I have read, you screwed up. You caved. That sucks. I wish it didn't happen to you, but you can't change that it did. But what you can do is not get offended because we ask you to answer the 3 questions. The answers are for you, not because we have anything to personally gain from your answers. To turn on the guys who were trying to help you succeed and who truly understand what you go through when quitting and get into a name-calling, disgusting and shameful conversation is wrong.
After you have read this, you have a choice. Are you going to own up to being an addict, answer the questions, promise to quit everyday and post it with us and be successful? Or are you going to call me names and tell me that you don't owe me anything? The choice is yours. But truth be told, I CAN'T have brothers that I am going to have to coddle through this. I need them to be tough and stand up to this horrible addiction with me. So what do you say?
I say BRAVO shane. That was a seriously badass post. 'oh yeah'
Agreed ... nice to see someone who gets it! Advice is spot on ... nicely done tshane!
And on foggy day 2 - strong!
x3. A gleaming bright spot in an absolute shithouse intro.
Echo this sentiment.
not gona lie, I read this and had to sit down I was so impressed. nicely put
Worst part???? No roll. Hey, Ham, come back and say whatever you need to say to me today, let us know you are quit. My wife need some action, it's Tuesday, the WoW servers reset, and I am raiding 3 wings tonight before new x-pac comes out in November. Are you quit, or was yesterday just some hawt troll action?
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Ham,
I am in the January 15 Quit Group. I have read through the posts on here and seen as others have reached out to you. Look man, I am doing this for real. I hope you are too. I want all of my brothers (and sister) to take this seriously.
I have dipped for 25 years. I have tried to quit in the past, but they turned out to just be stops. I would ninja dip until I was caught too many times. Then I would just say screw hiding it. It almost cost me my marriage on more than one occasion. Now, because of health issues, this quit cannot be another stop. I have to be successful. I will be successful.
Here's the thing. I NEED brothers to go through this with me. I need those who understand where I have been and what it takes to kick this to the curb where it belongs! I need guys who I can text when I am fighting a hard crave to help talk me through it. I want to be that for my brothers as well. So what I am asking from you is to take this seriously. It is going to be tougher than hell. There are going to be times where you are going to want to quit the quit, but you can't let that win out. I need my brothers to be strong as I will be strong for them.
From what I have read, you screwed up. You caved. That sucks. I wish it didn't happen to you, but you can't change that it did. But what you can do is not get offended because we ask you to answer the 3 questions. The answers are for you, not because we have anything to personally gain from your answers. To turn on the guys who were trying to help you succeed and who truly understand what you go through when quitting and get into a name-calling, disgusting and shameful conversation is wrong.
After you have read this, you have a choice. Are you going to own up to being an addict, answer the questions, promise to quit everyday and post it with us and be successful? Or are you going to call me names and tell me that you don't owe me anything? The choice is yours. But truth be told, I CAN'T have brothers that I am going to have to coddle through this. I need them to be tough and stand up to this horrible addiction with me. So what do you say?
I say BRAVO shane. That was a seriously badass post. 'oh yeah'
Agreed ... nice to see someone who gets it! Advice is spot on ... nicely done tshane!
And on foggy day 2 - strong!
x3. A gleaming bright spot in an absolute shithouse intro.
Echo this sentiment.
not gona lie, I read this and had to sit down I was so impressed. nicely put
Worst part???? No roll. Hey, Ham, come back and say whatever you need to say to me today, let us know you are quit. My wife need some action, it's Tuesday, the WoW servers reset, and I am raiding 3 wings tonight before new x-pac comes out in November. Are you quit, or was yesterday just some hawt troll action?
My guess is he's back to stuffing poison in his face and it's all someone else's fault for being such a meanie. Unfortunately I don't think spamVelveeta has what it takes.
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Hambone, it has been a while since we conversed. Take that rage that you have for all these quitters here and turn it on nicotine; THE TRUE KILLER OF YOUR EGO. In fact, the killer of your whole life and those who love you. Swallow some pride and save your life, your money, and your loved ones alot of pain. Just quit with us, answer the questions, and become a quitter extreme. None, zero, nada of us are perfect but we rely on one another, we will not let failure slip by, and we will have the toughest love available to quit nicotine. You are now in that position. Your Call my friend.
Mogul