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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: Minny on June 17, 2013, 10:45:00 AM
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I had my first smoke when I was 13, my first chew the next day, and I never looked back.
I quit for the hundredth time on May 10th, but have cheated on my quit a few times. I tell myself that it's okay because it's "only a Bandit" and that I've earned it. The ridiculous thing is that I know what a lie that is. I've been chewing for twenty years. I can't believe that's true.
I've literally thrown away dozens of full tins, brand spanking new minus one chew. My brain tricks me into rationalizing "just one chew" or "just one more tin" and the guilt/regret sets in as soon as the urge is satisfied.
The ridiculous thing is that me and my family avoid so many things (foods, detergents, artificial sweetener, fertilizer, etc.) that are known carcinogens, but here I am chewing my face off.
I hypocritically nag on my mother to quit smoking.
My biggest thing, as ridiculous as it sounds, is that I don't want to give up chew on my annual duck hunt with my pals. 5am, duck blind, coffee, load the gun, put in a fat chew: that's heaven. The problem is, I've tried that before and failed. As soon as the trip is over, I finish off the remainder of the tin or trick myself that I am weaning off (again) and that one more tin won't hurt. Next thing you know, another year has past and I go INTO the annual duck hunt a total addict.
I even imposed a rule that I would only chew if I was hunting. Well, wouldn't you know it: I started hunting a lot more often.
Anyway, technically I'm on day 3 and I feel like shit. Last night I had a dream that I was buying a tin. I feel hungover.
I'm quitting because it's not worth it, because my wife hates it, because I'm sick of being moody, because I love my daughter, because I don't want to be a hypocrite, because I know better, because I don't want to lose a part of my face, because I like my teeth, and because I don't like the idea of being an addict. Which I am.
I'm not going to lie, though. I love chew. I still doubt my ability or willingness to not chew in the duck blind, one week a year.
3.
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I had my first smoke when I was 13, my first chew the next day, and I never looked back.
I quit for the hundredth time on May 10th, but have cheated on my quit a few times. I tell myself that it's okay because it's "only a Bandit" and that I've earned it. The ridiculous thing is that I know what a lie that is. I've been chewing for twenty years. I can't believe that's true.
I've literally thrown away dozens of full tins, brand spanking new minus one chew. My brain tricks me into rationalizing "just one chew" or "just one more tin" and the guilt/regret sets in as soon as the urge is satisfied.
The ridiculous thing is that me and my family avoid so many things (foods, detergents, artificial sweetener, fertilizer, etc.) that are known carcinogens, but here I am chewing my face off.
I hypocritically nag on my mother to quit smoking.
My biggest thing, as ridiculous as it sounds, is that I don't want to give up chew on my annual duck hunt with my pals. 5am, duck blind, coffee, load the gun, put in a fat chew: that's heaven. The problem is, I've tried that before and failed. As soon as the trip is over, I finish off the remainder of the tin or trick myself that I am weaning off (again) and that one more tin won't hurt. Next thing you know, another year has past and I go INTO the annual duck hunt a total addict.
I even imposed a rule that I would only chew if I was hunting. Well, wouldn't you know it: I started hunting a lot more often.
Anyway, technically I'm on day 3 and I feel like shit. Last night I had a dream that I was buying a tin. I feel hungover.
I'm quitting because it's not worth it, because my wife hates it, because I'm sick of being moody, because I love my daughter, because I don't want to be a hypocrite, because I know better, because I don't want to lose a part of my face, because I like my teeth, and because I don't like the idea of being an addict. Which I am.
I'm not going to lie, though. I love chew. I still doubt my ability or willingness to not chew in the duck blind, one week a year.
3.
Day 3 is fucking awesome, man.
You can do this. You just need to want it more than anything else in your life. You list off all these reasons for quitting (which are awesome), but you did forget a very important one: You quit because you want to be quit.
Tell me, sir...why would you quit something that you "loved"?
You don't "love" chewing.
You love not being in physical pain.
You see, when your body is dependent upon nicotine, it's painful when the supply is not kept at high levels. It's what the drug does. It's how the parasite assures complete obedience.
When those levels start to lower, your body freaks the fuck out. It tells you how much you "love" it and it will make your good times better and bad times good. It's how the parasite assures complete obedience.
Nicotine is an ex-girlfriend that can fuck your brains out. Unfortunately, she runs train with the neighbors downstairs and spends your money while you're working. When you finally break up with her, she reminds you of all of your good times together and she passes over all of her mistakes. It's how the parasite assures complete obedience.
You don't love chewing.
You just haven't seen freedom yet.
It's much more beautiful.
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I had my first smoke when I was 13, my first chew the next day, and I never looked back.
I quit for the hundredth time on May 10th, but have cheated on my quit a few times. I tell myself that it's okay because it's "only a Bandit" and that I've earned it. The ridiculous thing is that I know what a lie that is. I've been chewing for twenty years. I can't believe that's true.
I've literally thrown away dozens of full tins, brand spanking new minus one chew. My brain tricks me into rationalizing "just one chew" or "just one more tin" and the guilt/regret sets in as soon as the urge is satisfied.
The ridiculous thing is that me and my family avoid so many things (foods, detergents, artificial sweetener, fertilizer, etc.) that are known carcinogens, but here I am chewing my face off.
I hypocritically nag on my mother to quit smoking.
My biggest thing, as ridiculous as it sounds, is that I don't want to give up chew on my annual duck hunt with my pals. 5am, duck blind, coffee, load the gun, put in a fat chew: that's heaven. The problem is, I've tried that before and failed. As soon as the trip is over, I finish off the remainder of the tin or trick myself that I am weaning off (again) and that one more tin won't hurt. Next thing you know, another year has past and I go INTO the annual duck hunt a total addict.
I even imposed a rule that I would only chew if I was hunting. Well, wouldn't you know it: I started hunting a lot more often.
Anyway, technically I'm on day 3 and I feel like shit. Last night I had a dream that I was buying a tin. I feel hungover.
I'm quitting because it's not worth it, because my wife hates it, because I'm sick of being moody, because I love my daughter, because I don't want to be a hypocrite, because I know better, because I don't want to lose a part of my face, because I like my teeth, and because I don't like the idea of being an addict. Which I am.
I'm not going to lie, though. I love chew. I still doubt my ability or willingness to not chew in the duck blind, one week a year.
3.
You sound so much like me! Except I only smoked and never hunted. Details!
You never quit before... You stopped. You were a serial stopper and then would try to "manage" your "habit". It sounds like you really are getting it though. You can't manage it because you are an addict. For me, this was a tremendous relief because it simplified things so very much. I no longer had to worry about when it would be okay. "I can just smoke when I drink." "I can just bum one because I won't buy a pack." "I can smoke as long as I'm not stressed." "I hate smoking so I can handle it this time." "I'm not gonna start again cause I need to run."
I was a master at working every angle to have "just one". But as we both know, that never works. When it clicked for me that I'm an ADDICT... I immediately adopted NAFAR... Never again... For any reason! That took all of the pressure of "managing" smoking off of me and though there are craving and irritability and tough moments, I post roll, I make that promise and I will NOT smoke today. Period.
As far as enjoying activities again... I suggest you start reading the Hall of Fame speeches and intros. Every single day I read about guys who are GIDDY with the excitement and pure JOY of experiencing life without a dip in. Some of those victories are hard won and some are downright painful but they are VICTORIES all the same. The amount of individual pride and bad ass discipline and support in this room could solve the world's problems if we could bottle it. Grab some of it for yourself and change your life.
I'll quit with you today.
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I had my first smoke when I was 13, my first chew the next day, and I never looked back.
I quit for the hundredth time on May 10th, but have cheated on my quit a few times. I tell myself that it's okay because it's "only a Bandit" and that I've earned it. The ridiculous thing is that I know what a lie that is. I've been chewing for twenty years. I can't believe that's true.
I've literally thrown away dozens of full tins, brand spanking new minus one chew. My brain tricks me into rationalizing "just one chew" or "just one more tin" and the guilt/regret sets in as soon as the urge is satisfied.
The ridiculous thing is that me and my family avoid so many things (foods, detergents, artificial sweetener, fertilizer, etc.) that are known carcinogens, but here I am chewing my face off.
I hypocritically nag on my mother to quit smoking.
My biggest thing, as ridiculous as it sounds, is that I don't want to give up chew on my annual duck hunt with my pals. 5am, duck blind, coffee, load the gun, put in a fat chew: that's heaven. The problem is, I've tried that before and failed. As soon as the trip is over, I finish off the remainder of the tin or trick myself that I am weaning off (again) and that one more tin won't hurt. Next thing you know, another year has past and I go INTO the annual duck hunt a total addict.
I even imposed a rule that I would only chew if I was hunting. Well, wouldn't you know it: I started hunting a lot more often.
Anyway, technically I'm on day 3 and I feel like shit. Last night I had a dream that I was buying a tin. I feel hungover.
I'm quitting because it's not worth it, because my wife hates it, because I'm sick of being moody, because I love my daughter, because I don't want to be a hypocrite, because I know better, because I don't want to lose a part of my face, because I like my teeth, and because I don't like the idea of being an addict. Which I am.
I'm not going to lie, though. I love chew. I still doubt my ability or willingness to not chew in the duck blind, one week a year.
3.
You sound so much like me! Except I only smoked and never hunted. Details!
You never quit before... You stopped. You were a serial stopper and then would try to "manage" your "habit". It sounds like you really are getting it though. You can't manage it because you are an addict. For me, this was a tremendous relief because it simplified things so very much. I no longer had to worry about when it would be okay. "I can just smoke when I drink." "I can just bum one because I won't buy a pack." "I can smoke as long as I'm not stressed." "I hate smoking so I can handle it this time." "I'm not gonna start again cause I need to run."
I was a master at working every angle to have "just one". But as we both know, that never works. When it clicked for me that I'm an ADDICT... I immediately adopted NAFAR... Never again... For any reason! That took all of the pressure of "managing" smoking off of me and though there are craving and irritability and tough moments, I post roll, I make that promise and I will NOT smoke today. Period.
As far as enjoying activities again... I suggest you start reading the Hall of Fame speeches and intros. Every single day I read about guys who are GIDDY with the excitement and pure JOY of experiencing life without a dip in. Some of those victories are hard won and some are downright painful but they are VICTORIES all the same. The amount of individual pride and bad ass discipline and support in this room could solve the world's problems if we could bottle it. Grab some of it for yourself and change your life.
I'll quit with you today.
I couldn't imagine, golfing, playing hockey, working on my lawn, working on my car, when I wake up, after meals, after sex, bus rides, plane rides, and driving with out dipping. Well, somehow I've managed for the last 65 days, and you can too. You have to quit for yourself, not your wife, not your kids, just for you. They said it perfectly earlier, you don't love chew, the nicotine owns you right now, and if you want,you can beat the addiction. Quit one day at a time, honor your word, and you will be able to do this just like thousands of others have, with the help of this site. PM me if you need anything.
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I had my first smoke when I was 13, my first chew the next day, and I never looked back.
I quit for the hundredth time on May 10th, but have cheated on my quit a few times. I tell myself that it's okay because it's "only a Bandit" and that I've earned it. The ridiculous thing is that I know what a lie that is. I've been chewing for twenty years. I can't believe that's true.
I've literally thrown away dozens of full tins, brand spanking new minus one chew. My brain tricks me into rationalizing "just one chew" or "just one more tin" and the guilt/regret sets in as soon as the urge is satisfied.
The ridiculous thing is that me and my family avoid so many things (foods, detergents, artificial sweetener, fertilizer, etc.) that are known carcinogens, but here I am chewing my face off.
I hypocritically nag on my mother to quit smoking.
My biggest thing, as ridiculous as it sounds, is that I don't want to give up chew on my annual duck hunt with my pals. 5am, duck blind, coffee, load the gun, put in a fat chew: that's heaven. The problem is, I've tried that before and failed. As soon as the trip is over, I finish off the remainder of the tin or trick myself that I am weaning off (again) and that one more tin won't hurt. Next thing you know, another year has past and I go INTO the annual duck hunt a total addict.
I even imposed a rule that I would only chew if I was hunting. Well, wouldn't you know it: I started hunting a lot more often.
Anyway, technically I'm on day 3 and I feel like shit. Last night I had a dream that I was buying a tin. I feel hungover.
I'm quitting because it's not worth it, because my wife hates it, because I'm sick of being moody, because I love my daughter, because I don't want to be a hypocrite, because I know better, because I don't want to lose a part of my face, because I like my teeth, and because I don't like the idea of being an addict. Which I am.
I'm not going to lie, though. I love chew. I still doubt my ability or willingness to not chew in the duck blind, one week a year.
3.
Day 3 is fucking awesome, man.
You can do this. You just need to want it more than anything else in your life. You list off all these reasons for quitting (which are awesome), but you did forget a very important one: You quit because you want to be quit.
Tell me, sir...why would you quit something that you "loved"?
You don't "love" chewing.
You love not being in physical pain.
You see, when your body is dependent upon nicotine, it's painful when the supply is not kept at high levels. It's what the drug does. It's how the parasite assures complete obedience.
When those levels start to lower, your body freaks the fuck out. It tells you how much you "love" it and it will make your good times better and bad times good. It's how the parasite assures complete obedience.
Nicotine is an ex-girlfriend that can fuck your brains out. Unfortunately, she runs train with the neighbors downstairs and spends your money while you're working. When you finally break up with her, she reminds you of all of your good times together and she passes over all of her mistakes. It's how the parasite assures complete obedience.
You don't love chewing.
You just haven't seen freedom yet.
It's much more beautiful.
I didn't think I would ever be able to drive without chewing. Or golf without chewing. Or farm without chewing. Those three triggers were huge for me. All 3. And I thought I loved chewing as much as I loved each of those activities.
Now I'm only 10 days into my quit, but I've gotten to do all 3 of those things dip-free in the last 10 days. And you know what? I didn't love chewing at all. I associated the pleasure of chewing with the pleasure of golfing. But golfing without chewing is great. It's no exaggeration to say that it's much, much more enjoyable. Rather than reaching into my cargo pockets half a dozen times, I focused on my game (which really really needed some focusing) and enjoyed conversation with my friends. I wasn't worried about having a dip. I was free!! Imagine not having to worry about having an adequate supply of tobacco at your fingertips.
I know exactly how you feel. And maybe you'll really want one when you go duck hunting. But maybe you won't; maybe by that time you'll have decided that you prefer life without tobacco.
And the thing is as long as you're using tobacco you can't make that decision. To use Waste Panel's analogy, you can't break up with the girl while you're in the middle of having sex with her; she's affecting your decision. So really, don't worry about duck hunting yet. Just worry about today, this moment. Win right now. You can cross the issue about navigating duck hunting when the time comes.
So, along with Waste Panel, LHG, and the other awesome quitters here, I quit with you today.
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A Discussion on Rules (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=4902)
Go read that. Substitute alcohol for dip....it's all the same....fuct up addict speak. We've all done it. You are not a trailblazer in that area.
And as WP has requested...do tell what you love about dipping. Make ol LOOT a list. When you get done, read the list, guarantee you'll want to erase the post before you make it because you'll realize it for what it is....yep, fuct up addict speak. Don't erase...post it. It'll be a therapeutic exercise.
Go.
PS. If your idea of "heaven" is a commune of active addicts slowly committing suicide...you should spend some time in reflection. Cause yep, it's addict speak bro. You can snow your friends...you can snow your family...hell, you can even snow yourself...but you can't snow us sugar.
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A Discussion on Rules (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=4902)
Go read that. Substitute alcohol for dip....it's all the same....fuct up addict speak. We've all done it. You are not a trailblazer in that area.
And as WP has requested...do tell what you love about dipping. Make ol LOOT a list. When you get done, read the list, guarantee you'll want to erase the post before you make it because you'll realize it for what it is....yep, fuct up addict speak. Don't erase...post it. It'll be a therapeutic exercise.
Go.
PS. If your idea of "heaven" is a commune of active addicts slowly committing suicide...you should spend some time in reflection. Cause yep, it's addict speak bro. You can snow your friends...you can snow your family...hell, you can even snow yourself...but you can't snow us sugar.
Mirrors were made for us addicts.
Have you found the addict in your mirror brother?
Listen to Loot. His advice can very well save your life.
Get quit.
Post roll, the earlier the better for your quit.
keep your word for the day
wake and repeat
Drink the koolaid, it really is sweet and powerful.
Cheers.
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Step 1) Admit you're an addict.
Step 2) Admit that because you are an addict you can never again have "just one", or a simple little bandit, or a cigar, or a SNUS, or a plug supository if you are in the mood. You can't handle any nic. Period. Never again. Not for any reason.
When you fully accept and believe steps 1 and 2, then you can begin healing (quitting).
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Awesome to see you posted roll. Bad ass you are now! Keep keeping on, minute by minute, hour by hour, day by day and we are all here doing it with you Minny. Come by here and post sometimes on how you are doing. It will be a good read for you from time to time when looking back or just need that additional motivation! I quit with you!
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Motherfucker I caved on Monday like a pussy. All of your words ring true.
Back to day 2.
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Step 1) Admit you're an addict.
Step 2) Admit that because you are an addict you can never again have "just one", or a simple little bandit, or a cigar, or a SNUS, or a plug supository if you are in the mood. You can't handle any nic. Period. Never again. Not for any reason.
When you fully accept and believe steps 1 and 2, then you can begin healing (quitting).
Bump for the little bitch.
Get your shit together or hit the fucking bricks Minny. We have no time for your wishy washy bullshit.
You've got 4 fucking total posts. FOUR. Fuck your half assed addict bullshit.
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PS. Never did see your list.
Go to Lite. Someone hold the little bitches hand and show him the way to Lite.
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PS. Never did see your list.
Go to Lite. Someone hold the little bitches hand and show him the way to Lite.
Quote from your previous post....
I'm not going to lie, though. I love chew. I still doubt my ability or willingness to not chew in the duck blind, one week a year.
Dude, You caved already? Is it duck season? Or do you just love chew so much you couldn't wait?
I haven't seen you answer the three questions
What happened?
Why did it happen?
What are you going to do different this time?
I think you need to answer those questions before you post roll again!
And take this shit serious! It takes energy for us to support you and if you don't have the energy to WANT to quit then we don't have the energy to coddle you!
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I am no hunter but i do have a small grasp on the hunting seasons at least here in Indiana...i wouldn't think it would be duck hunting season...unless you are uncle phil from duck dynasty that is...go post up and try again...if not, go bye bye
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I had my first smoke when I was 13, my first chew the next day, and I never looked back.
I quit for the hundredth time on May 10th, but have cheated on my quit a few times. I tell myself that it's okay because it's "only a Bandit" and that I've earned it. The ridiculous thing is that I know what a lie that is. I've been chewing for twenty years. I can't believe that's true.
I've literally thrown away dozens of full tins, brand spanking new minus one chew. My brain tricks me into rationalizing "just one chew" or "just one more tin" and the guilt/regret sets in as soon as the urge is satisfied.
The ridiculous thing is that me and my family avoid so many things (foods, detergents, artificial sweetener, fertilizer, etc.) that are known carcinogens, but here I am chewing my face off.
I hypocritically nag on my mother to quit smoking.
My biggest thing, as ridiculous as it sounds, is that I don't want to give up chew on my annual duck hunt with my pals. 5am, duck blind, coffee, load the gun, put in a fat chew: that's heaven. The problem is, I've tried that before and failed. As soon as the trip is over, I finish off the remainder of the tin or trick myself that I am weaning off (again) and that one more tin won't hurt. Next thing you know, another year has past and I go INTO the annual duck hunt a total addict.
I even imposed a rule that I would only chew if I was hunting. Well, wouldn't you know it: I started hunting a lot more often.
Anyway, technically I'm on day 3 and I feel like shit. Last night I had a dream that I was buying a tin. I feel hungover.
I'm quitting because it's not worth it, because my wife hates it, because I'm sick of being moody, because I love my daughter, because I don't want to be a hypocrite, because I know better, because I don't want to lose a part of my face, because I like my teeth, and because I don't like the idea of being an addict. Which I am.
I'm not going to lie, though. I love chew. I still doubt my ability or willingness to not chew in the duck blind, one week a year.
3.
You didn't quit on May 10th. You didn't quit this last weekend. You haven't quit at all. You're pissing around thinking about quitting like a kid masturbates while thinking about sex. It's not going to happen Minny, not until you want to quit. Not until you get the duck hunting and your "love" of chew out of your mind. I'm not seeing the desire here.
Think long and hard (that's what she said) about whether you really want this. If you do, answer the 3 questions. Otherwise, don't come back unless you're serious.
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I had my first smoke when I was 13, my first chew the next day, and I never looked back.
I quit for the hundredth time on May 10th, but have cheated on my quit a few times. I tell myself that it's okay because it's "only a Bandit" and that I've earned it. The ridiculous thing is that I know what a lie that is. I've been chewing for twenty years. I can't believe that's true.
I've literally thrown away dozens of full tins, brand spanking new minus one chew. My brain tricks me into rationalizing "just one chew" or "just one more tin" and the guilt/regret sets in as soon as the urge is satisfied.
The ridiculous thing is that me and my family avoid so many things (foods, detergents, artificial sweetener, fertilizer, etc.) that are known carcinogens, but here I am chewing my face off.
I hypocritically nag on my mother to quit smoking.
My biggest thing, as ridiculous as it sounds, is that I don't want to give up chew on my annual duck hunt with my pals. 5am, duck blind, coffee, load the gun, put in a fat chew: that's heaven. The problem is, I've tried that before and failed. As soon as the trip is over, I finish off the remainder of the tin or trick myself that I am weaning off (again) and that one more tin won't hurt. Next thing you know, another year has past and I go INTO the annual duck hunt a total addict.
I even imposed a rule that I would only chew if I was hunting. Well, wouldn't you know it: I started hunting a lot more often.
Anyway, technically I'm on day 3 and I feel like shit. Last night I had a dream that I was buying a tin. I feel hungover.
I'm quitting because it's not worth it, because my wife hates it, because I'm sick of being moody, because I love my daughter, because I don't want to be a hypocrite, because I know better, because I don't want to lose a part of my face, because I like my teeth, and because I don't like the idea of being an addict. Which I am.
I'm not going to lie, though. I love chew. I still doubt my ability or willingness to not chew in the duck blind, one week a year.
3.
You didn't quit on May 10th. You didn't quit this last weekend. You haven't quit at all. You're pissing around thinking about quitting like a kid masturbates while thinking about sex. It's not going to happen Minny, not until you want to quit. Not until you get the duck hunting and your "love" of chew out of your mind. I'm not seeing the desire here.
Think long and hard (that's what she said) about whether you really want this. If you do, answer the 3 questions. Otherwise, don't come back unless you're serious.
I dont see that you have convinced yourself that you want to quit- "I like my teeth and my wife" aren't good enough reasons to keep the Nic Bitch at bay. Think about it, try to find the truth in yourself and your supposed love for chew/dip whatever the fuck you want to call it. Until you can see that you are not a man in control of his life then you will always be a puppet to nicotine.
Stay Quit - Quit Everyday
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The only thing nicotine enhances is YOUR addiction to nicotine.
You ready to say enough is enough? Then do it; otherwise, stop wasting my and everyone else's time here.
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Day 4.
You assholes are very helpful. Yesterday was a big test for a serial caver like me.
No nic today.
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Day 4.
You assholes are very helpful. Yesterday was a big test for a serial caver like me.
No nic today.
We try! :D
One day at a time! Good to be quit with you today.
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Day 4.
You assholes are very helpful. Yesterday was a big test for a serial caver like me.
No nic today.
Stay after it, this is not rocket science. Promise, honor promise, promise again tomorrow.
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It feels like my brain is turned off today.
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It feels like my brain is turned off today.
I had a couple weeks of the fog - it sucks - I know.
One thought about your hunting - the way I see it quitting now will likely give you more years to actually be alive and out there enjoying your hunt with family and friends - think about it.
Just take it one day at a time. That is all any of us can control - today.
All those good memories aren't because of the nicotine - they are good memories in spite of it.
I quit with you today.
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Ok I'm an asshole so I'm gonna call Bullshit on all this! You quit on may 17th and caved after 2 days! No explanation on your thread or to your group, then you post a new day one on June 19th. AND CAVE AGAIN! Yesterday and today you post roll but give no account as to what happened? Why it happened? And what is going to be different this time! You caved 2 times in less then 2 weeks, and have not respected us enough to explain anything! I'm surprised no one in your group has called you on this bullshit! You are a serial caver by self admission and yet you want to play in this pool and mooch support from the site but do nothing to deserve it! Are you quit? If so answer the three questions with honesty and do some self evaluation. I'm surprised your group has allowed you to slide back in here with out calling you out! I want an explanation! If not for me for the other new guys joining the site who need to see what not to follow. UNREAL!
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Ok I'm an asshole so I'm gonna call Bullshit on all this! You quit on may 17th and caved after 2 days! No explanation on your thread or to your group, then you post a new day one on June 19th. AND CAVE AGAIN! Yesterday and today you post roll but give no account as to what happened? Why it happened? And what is going to be different this time! You caved 2 times in less then 2 weeks, and have not respected us enough to explain anything! I'm surprised no one in your group has called you on this bullshit! You are a serial caver by self admission and yet you want to play in this pool and mooch support from the site but do nothing to deserve it! Are you quit? If so answer the three questions with honesty and do some self evaluation. I'm surprised your group has allowed you to slide back in here with out calling you out! I want an explanation! If not for me for the other new guys joining the site who need to see what not to follow. UNREAL!
Oh wow. Didn't see he caved twice. I retract my earlier support.
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Ok I'm an asshole so I'm gonna call Bullshit on all this! You quit on may 17th and caved after 2 days! No explanation on your thread or to your group, then you post a new day one on June 19th. AND CAVE AGAIN! Yesterday and today you post roll but give no account as to what happened? Why it happened? And what is going to be different this time! You caved 2 times in less then 2 weeks, and have not respected us enough to explain anything! I'm surprised no one in your group has called you on this bullshit! You are a serial caver by self admission and yet you want to play in this pool and mooch support from the site but do nothing to deserve it! Are you quit? If so answer the three questions with honesty and do some self evaluation. I'm surprised your group has allowed you to slide back in here with out calling you out! I want an explanation! If not for me for the other new guys joining the site who need to see what not to follow. UNREAL!
Oh wow. Didn't see he caved twice. I retract my earlier support.
LHG- I wondered about your post. Seemed like he was getting a free pass from you. Thought that seemed odd with your normal words of wisdom! And Badassery!
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Ok I'm an asshole so I'm gonna call Bullshit on all this! You quit on may 17th and caved after 2 days! No explanation on your thread or to your group, then you post a new day one on June 19th. AND CAVE AGAIN! Yesterday and today you post roll but give no account as to what happened? Why it happened? And what is going to be different this time! You caved 2 times in less then 2 weeks, and have not respected us enough to explain anything! I'm surprised no one in your group has called you on this bullshit! You are a serial caver by self admission and yet you want to play in this pool and mooch support from the site but do nothing to deserve it! Are you quit? If so answer the three questions with honesty and do some self evaluation. I'm surprised your group has allowed you to slide back in here with out calling you out! I want an explanation! If not for me for the other new guys joining the site who need to see what not to follow. UNREAL!
Oh wow. Didn't see he caved twice. I retract my earlier support.
LHG- I wondered about your post. Seemed like he was getting a free pass from you. Thought that seemed odd with your normal words of wisdom! And Badassery!
Thanks Jake.
Dear Snowflake,
Don't take a seat in the liferaft if you are not serious about saving your life.
Love,
Sco
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I just sent Minny a PM. We can't be lukewarm here Minny. I'm sure October would love to have you in their group but you need to man up, answer the 3 questions both on this intro page and in the October group quit page, and promise to quit today. If you're not with us you're against us, so either start hating your addiction, quit it, and answer the questions or find another site where they're alright with flipping and flopping.
I know the first few days of a quit are very, very tough. But you've got to post consistently and answer the 3 questions. For us. For you. For everyone's accountability.
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It feels like my brain is turned off today.
I had a couple weeks of the fog - it sucks - I know.
One thought about your hunting - the way I see it quitting now will likely give you more years to actually be alive and out there enjoying your hunt with family and friends - think about it.
Just take it one day at a time. That is all any of us can control - today.
All those good memories aren't because of the nicotine - they are good memories in spite of it.
I quit with you today.
Thanks for pointing this out Jake - let me do a slight re-rephrase - I quit with you today, if in fact you are quit!
Come-on Minny, you need to F'n Man up, answer the questions, and make a GD commitment to be done with this shit.
Can you do it?, or does your screen name imply the size of your quit balls? Because you're going to need a big set to say "Enough".
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Ok I'm an asshole so I'm gonna call Bullshit on all this! You quit on may 17th and caved after 2 days! No explanation on your thread or to your group, then you post a new day one on June 19th. AND CAVE AGAIN! Yesterday and today you post roll but give no account as to what happened? Why it happened? And what is going to be different this time! You caved 2 times in less then 2 weeks, and have not respected us enough to explain anything! I'm surprised no one in your group has called you on this bullshit! You are a serial caver by self admission and yet you want to play in this pool and mooch support from the site but do nothing to deserve it! Are you quit? If so answer the three questions with honesty and do some self evaluation. I'm surprised your group has allowed you to slide back in here with out calling you out! I want an explanation! If not for me for the other new guys joining the site who need to see what not to follow. UNREAL!
Oh wow. Didn't see he caved twice. I retract my earlier support.
LHG- I wondered about your post. Seemed like he was getting a free pass from you. Thought that seemed odd with your normal words of wisdom! And Badassery!
Thanks Jake.
Dear Snowflake,
Don't take a seat in the liferaft if you are not serious about saving your life.
Love,
Sco
Looks like someone has some esplaining to do.........
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It feels like my brain is turned off today.
I had a couple weeks of the fog - it sucks - I know.
One thought about your hunting - the way I see it quitting now will likely give you more years to actually be alive and out there enjoying your hunt with family and friends - think about it.
Just take it one day at a time. That is all any of us can control - today.
All those good memories aren't because of the nicotine - they are good memories in spite of it.
I quit with you today.
Thanks for pointing this out Jake - let me do a slight re-rephrase - I quit with you today, if in fact you are quit!
Come-on Minny, you need to F'n Man up, answer the questions, and make a GD commitment to be done with this shit.
Can you do it?, or does your screen name imply the size of your quit balls? Because you're going to need a big set to say "Enough".
'bang head'
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Are you looking for excuses? I have no excuses. I am an addict and have been weak for a long time, always rationalizing one more tin/chew.
What happened?
I bought a tin. I had two quick guilt-ridden dips before tossing the can into the wastebasket.
Why did it happen?
Apparently, I wasn't serious about quitting.
What are you going to do different this time?
Get serious about quitting. For whatever the reason, it has taken interaction with ktc brothers for me to truly commit.
I hadn't read any of the replies to my earlier posts about being a serial quitter. Wastepanel, LionHeartedGirl, Dougie, CBird65, Jungleland, Billybill3934, and Mthomas3824, and others, have been particularly helpful in helping me recognize the absurdity in my serial quit. I also appreciate the concept of quitting each day, for one day. Wastepanel's comments in particular...
This time, I'm going to quit today, each day.
I realize that the Jake Frawleys of the world, having been on ktc for 3 weeks, are eager to toss me out for being poisonous to the group. Fair enough, I get it.
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Are you looking for excuses? I have no excuses. I am an addict and have been weak for a long time, always rationalizing one more tin/chew.
What happened?
I bought a tin. I had two quick guilt-ridden dips before tossing the can into the wastebasket.
Why did it happen?
Apparently, I wasn't serious about quitting.
What are you going to do different this time?
Get serious about quitting. For whatever the reason, it has taken interaction with ktc brothers for me to truly commit.
I hadn't read any of the replies to my earlier posts about being a serial quitter. Wastepanel, LionHeartedGirl, Dougie, CBird65, Jungleland, Billybill3934, and Mthomas3824, and others, have been particularly helpful in helping me recognize the absurdity in my serial quit. I also appreciate the concept of quitting each day, for one day. Wastepanel's comments in particular...
This time, I'm going to quit today, each day.
I realize that the Jake Frawleys of the world, having been on ktc for 3 weeks, are eager to toss me out for being poisonous to the group. Fair enough, I get it.
Don't want to toss you out just want to see realness. This is a brother/sisterhood and I want it protected. Getting a lot of cavers who get hurt feelings over being held accountable here. I caved myself once and came back and took my licks but didn't offer any weak excuses! So I have no patience for people who shit here and then get defensive. If your gonna be quit then honor your word or get out! Simple!
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Are you looking for excuses? I have no excuses. I am an addict and have been weak for a long time, always rationalizing one more tin/chew.
What happened?
I bought a tin. I had two quick guilt-ridden dips before tossing the can into the wastebasket.
Why did it happen?
Apparently, I wasn't serious about quitting.
What are you going to do different this time?
Get serious about quitting. For whatever the reason, it has taken interaction with ktc brothers for me to truly commit.
I hadn't read any of the replies to my earlier posts about being a serial quitter. Wastepanel, LionHeartedGirl, Dougie, CBird65, Jungleland, Billybill3934, and Mthomas3824, and others, have been particularly helpful in helping me recognize the absurdity in my serial quit. I also appreciate the concept of quitting each day, for one day. Wastepanel's comments in particular...
This time, I'm going to quit today, each day.
I realize that the Jake Frawleys of the world, having been on ktc for 3 weeks, are eager to toss me out for being poisonous to the group. Fair enough, I get it.
Minny, lets not forget we will defend this house, we will defend our ways of quit. Two times in a matter of days, everyone has the right to question you. We all say remember the day one so you don't have to do it again. You have remembered the day one twice in a few weeks.
Now, is the time. Now is when you discover how big of a pair you really have. Do you want to quit or do you want to dabble your toe in the quit pool instead of jumping in? I don't know what the magic number is of caves before everyone walks away totally from you, but I would venture to say you are not far away.
I suggest you drink the kool-aide, I suggest you jump into the pool, not test the water. I suggest you start to own your quit. I suggest you look and see what your other quit brothers and sisters are going through, before you go a few days and start finger banging a can again. It has to be for you, you have to want it and you have to own it. Don't be another burn out.
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Are you looking for excuses? I have no excuses. I am an addict and have been weak for a long time, always rationalizing one more tin/chew.
What happened?
I bought a tin. I had two quick guilt-ridden dips before tossing the can into the wastebasket.
Why did it happen?
Apparently, I wasn't serious about quitting.
What are you going to do different this time?
Get serious about quitting. For whatever the reason, it has taken interaction with ktc brothers for me to truly commit.
I hadn't read any of the replies to my earlier posts about being a serial quitter. Wastepanel, LionHeartedGirl, Dougie, CBird65, Jungleland, Billybill3934, and Mthomas3824, and others, have been particularly helpful in helping me recognize the absurdity in my serial quit. I also appreciate the concept of quitting each day, for one day. Wastepanel's comments in particular...
This time, I'm going to quit today, each day.
I realize that the Jake Frawleys of the world, having been on ktc for 3 weeks, are eager to toss me out for being poisonous to the group. Fair enough, I get it.
Minny, lets not forget we will defend this house, we will defend our ways of quit. Two times in a matter of days, everyone has the right to question you. We all say remember the day one so you don't have to do it again. You have remembered the day one twice in a few weeks.
Now, is the time. Now is when you discover how big of a pair you really have. Do you want to quit or do you want to dabble your toe in the quit pool instead of jumping in? I don't know what the magic number is of caves before everyone walks away totally from you, but I would venture to say you are not far away.
I suggest you drink the kool-aide, I suggest you jump into the pool, not test the water. I suggest you start to own your quit. I suggest you look and see what your other quit brothers and sisters are going through, before you go a few days and start finger banging a can again. It has to be for you, you have to want it and you have to own it. Don't be another burn out.
I like kkl's post.
Why are we so inflexible? Because addiction is inflexible. Drink the Kool-Aid. You can do this...or not. The choice is yours. If not, I respectfully request you leave.
Cavers find a way to cave. Quitters find a way to quit. ~ 30yraddict.
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Are you looking for excuses? I have no excuses. I am an addict and have been weak for a long time, always rationalizing one more tin/chew.
What happened?
I bought a tin. I had two quick guilt-ridden dips before tossing the can into the wastebasket.
Why did it happen?
Apparently, I wasn't serious about quitting.
What are you going to do different this time?
Get serious about quitting. For whatever the reason, it has taken interaction with ktc brothers for me to truly commit.
I hadn't read any of the replies to my earlier posts about being a serial quitter. Wastepanel, LionHeartedGirl, Dougie, CBird65, Jungleland, Billybill3934, and Mthomas3824, and others, have been particularly helpful in helping me recognize the absurdity in my serial quit. I also appreciate the concept of quitting each day, for one day. Wastepanel's comments in particular...
This time, I'm going to quit today, each day.
I realize that the Jake Frawleys of the world, having been on ktc for 3 weeks, are eager to toss me out for being poisonous to the group. Fair enough, I get it.
Minny, lets not forget we will defend this house, we will defend our ways of quit. Two times in a matter of days, everyone has the right to question you. We all say remember the day one so you don't have to do it again. You have remembered the day one twice in a few weeks.
Now, is the time. Now is when you discover how big of a pair you really have. Do you want to quit or do you want to dabble your toe in the quit pool instead of jumping in? I don't know what the magic number is of caves before everyone walks away totally from you, but I would venture to say you are not far away.
I suggest you drink the kool-aide, I suggest you jump into the pool, not test the water. I suggest you start to own your quit. I suggest you look and see what your other quit brothers and sisters are going through, before you go a few days and start finger banging a can again. It has to be for you, you have to want it and you have to own it. Don't be another burn out.
I like kkl's post.
Why are we so inflexible? Because addiction is inflexible. Drink the Kool-Aid. You can do this...or not. The choice is yours. If not, I respectfully request you leave.
Cavers find a way to cave. Quitters find a way to quit. ~ 30yraddict.
And let me tell you, I caved once! So I KNOW what it's like! I have no patience for weakness or excuses now because of it. And I also know that unless you come back with a new attitude and a solid quit plan, you WILL repeat your cave. Clearly it has happened twice already. I don't want to see any one go, but I do want to be surrounded with strong brothers and sisters! If you reach out and commit you can be that man!
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Are you looking for excuses? I have no excuses. I am an addict and have been weak for a long time, always rationalizing one more tin/chew.
What happened?
I bought a tin. I had two quick guilt-ridden dips before tossing the can into the wastebasket.
Why did it happen?
Apparently, I wasn't serious about quitting.
What are you going to do different this time?
Get serious about quitting. For whatever the reason, it has taken interaction with ktc brothers for me to truly commit.
I hadn't read any of the replies to my earlier posts about being a serial quitter. Wastepanel, LionHeartedGirl, Dougie, CBird65, Jungleland, Billybill3934, and Mthomas3824, and others, have been particularly helpful in helping me recognize the absurdity in my serial quit. I also appreciate the concept of quitting each day, for one day. Wastepanel's comments in particular...
This time, I'm going to quit today, each day.
I realize that the Jake Frawleys of the world, having been on ktc for 3 weeks, are eager to toss me out for being poisonous to the group. Fair enough, I get it.
Minny, lets not forget we will defend this house, we will defend our ways of quit. Two times in a matter of days, everyone has the right to question you. We all say remember the day one so you don't have to do it again. You have remembered the day one twice in a few weeks.
Now, is the time. Now is when you discover how big of a pair you really have. Do you want to quit or do you want to dabble your toe in the quit pool instead of jumping in? I don't know what the magic number is of caves before everyone walks away totally from you, but I would venture to say you are not far away.
I suggest you drink the kool-aide, I suggest you jump into the pool, not test the water. I suggest you start to own your quit. I suggest you look and see what your other quit brothers and sisters are going through, before you go a few days and start finger banging a can again. It has to be for you, you have to want it and you have to own it. Don't be another burn out.
I like kkl's post.
Why are we so inflexible? Because addiction is inflexible. Drink the Kool-Aid. You can do this...or not. The choice is yours. If not, I respectfully request you leave.
Cavers find a way to cave. Quitters find a way to quit. ~ 30yraddict.
Two caves bro? Not sure you really want this myself. We got people losing jobs, losing wifes, losing there mind and they don't cave. What makes you so different?
I'll tell you. You got to reeeellllyy waaaant this. So far it's apparent that you don't. The poison right now has your number. It thinks it can have you back anytime it wants. I give you a week if that. We'll see!
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Are you looking for excuses? I have no excuses. I am an addict and have been weak for a long time, always rationalizing one more tin/chew.
What happened?
I bought a tin. I had two quick guilt-ridden dips before tossing the can into the wastebasket.
Why did it happen?
Apparently, I wasn't serious about quitting.
What are you going to do different this time?
Get serious about quitting. For whatever the reason, it has taken interaction with ktc brothers for me to truly commit.
I hadn't read any of the replies to my earlier posts about being a serial quitter. Wastepanel, LionHeartedGirl, Dougie, CBird65, Jungleland, Billybill3934, and Mthomas3824, and others, have been particularly helpful in helping me recognize the absurdity in my serial quit. I also appreciate the concept of quitting each day, for one day. Wastepanel's comments in particular...
This time, I'm going to quit today, each day.
I realize that the Jake Frawleys of the world, having been on ktc for 3 weeks, are eager to toss me out for being poisonous to the group. Fair enough, I get it.
Minny -
Might be helpful if you shared a little about yourself, where you from, how'd you start, what your triggers are, what issues you may have in your life that have made in hard in the past for you to quit. It'll surprise you how many common threads there are among quitters.
BTW - you do realize no one really wants to toss you out - we want all you got dedicated to this quit - nothing less.
I'm around day 50, and it's taken that long for me to reeeaaally believe what a complete f'n idiot I've been to let this shit control me for so long. I can't change the past, but I damn sure can change today.
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Are you looking for excuses? I have no excuses. I am an addict and have been weak for a long time, always rationalizing one more tin/chew.
What happened?
I bought a tin. I had two quick guilt-ridden dips before tossing the can into the wastebasket.
Why did it happen?
Apparently, I wasn't serious about quitting.
What are you going to do different this time?
Get serious about quitting. For whatever the reason, it has taken interaction with ktc brothers for me to truly commit.
I hadn't read any of the replies to my earlier posts about being a serial quitter. Wastepanel, LionHeartedGirl, Dougie, CBird65, Jungleland, Billybill3934, and Mthomas3824, and others, have been particularly helpful in helping me recognize the absurdity in my serial quit. I also appreciate the concept of quitting each day, for one day. Wastepanel's comments in particular...
This time, I'm going to quit today, each day.
I realize that the Jake Frawleys of the world, having been on ktc for 3 weeks, are eager to toss me out for being poisonous to the group. Fair enough, I get it.
Minny -
Might be helpful if you shared a little about yourself, where you from, how'd you start, what your triggers are, what issues you may have in your life that have made in hard in the past for you to quit. It'll surprise you how many common threads there are among quitters.
BTW - you do realize no one really wants to toss you out - we want all you got dedicated to this quit - nothing less.
I'm around day 50, and it's taken that long for me to reeeaaally believe what a complete f'n idiot I've been to let this shit control me for so long. I can't change the past, but I damn sure can change today.
I'm in my early thirties, live in Minneapolis, and have a wife and daughter. I don't really have any life issues that make it harder than anyone else to quit. I do live a very stressful life, though I feel like most people do, too.
I got started with nic when a buddy's older brother started smoking and chewing. I was thirteen. I was a smoker and dipper for years until I met my wife, at which point I became a ninja dipper. Grizzly Wintergreen, Cope long cut, skoal and kodiak some times. I kicked my addiction into 5th gear when I realized I could put in an upper at work whenever I wanted to and no one knew.
My triggers are driving, working, hunting, fishing, golfing, playing vids, sporting clays, etc. Breathing... Beers certainly don't help the fight to quit.
Over the past nine days I've been in very tempting situations. Several long days in the car for work, 2 hours in a car with a dipping buddy and his tin within an arm's reach. Golfing with three other dippers, shooting clays with five pals chewing kodiak, etc. Yesterday a friend actually held out an open tin of bandits and offered me one, and for my birthday we spent the day on a boat and I was given cigars and a nice cutter. It was a perfect day for a cigar.
It has certainly gotten easier. Days 2, 3, and 4 were awful. I hope the fog doesn't come back.
I appreciate the support. I didn't "get it" at first: that these sections of KTC are for people that are tobacco free, period.
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Are you looking for excuses? I have no excuses. I am an addict and have been weak for a long time, always rationalizing one more tin/chew.
What happened?
I bought a tin. I had two quick guilt-ridden dips before tossing the can into the wastebasket.
Why did it happen?
Apparently, I wasn't serious about quitting.
What are you going to do different this time?
Get serious about quitting. For whatever the reason, it has taken interaction with ktc brothers for me to truly commit.
I hadn't read any of the replies to my earlier posts about being a serial quitter. Wastepanel, LionHeartedGirl, Dougie, CBird65, Jungleland, Billybill3934, and Mthomas3824, and others, have been particularly helpful in helping me recognize the absurdity in my serial quit. I also appreciate the concept of quitting each day, for one day. Wastepanel's comments in particular...
This time, I'm going to quit today, each day.
I realize that the Jake Frawleys of the world, having been on ktc for 3 weeks, are eager to toss me out for being poisonous to the group. Fair enough, I get it.
Minny -
Might be helpful if you shared a little about yourself, where you from, how'd you start, what your triggers are, what issues you may have in your life that have made in hard in the past for you to quit. It'll surprise you how many common threads there are among quitters.
BTW - you do realize no one really wants to toss you out - we want all you got dedicated to this quit - nothing less.
I'm around day 50, and it's taken that long for me to reeeaaally believe what a complete f'n idiot I've been to let this shit control me for so long. I can't change the past, but I damn sure can change today.
I'm in my early thirties, live in Minneapolis, and have a wife and daughter. I don't really have any life issues that make it harder than anyone else to quit. I do live a very stressful life, though I feel like most people do, too.
I got started with nic when a buddy's older brother started smoking and chewing. I was thirteen. I was a smoker and dipper for years until I met my wife, at which point I became a ninja dipper. Grizzly Wintergreen, Cope long cut, skoal and kodiak some times. I kicked my addiction into 5th gear when I realized I could put in an upper at work whenever I wanted to and no one knew.
My triggers are driving, working, hunting, fishing, golfing, playing vids, sporting clays, etc. Breathing... Beers certainly don't help the fight to quit.
Over the past nine days I've been in very tempting situations. Several long days in the car for work, 2 hours in a car with a dipping buddy and his tin within an arm's reach. Golfing with three other dippers, shooting clays with five pals chewing kodiak, etc. Yesterday a friend actually held out an open tin of bandits and offered me one, and for my birthday we spent the day on a boat and I was given cigars and a nice cutter. It was a perfect day for a cigar.
It has certainly gotten easier. Days 2, 3, and 4 were awful. I hope the fog doesn't come back.
I appreciate the support. I didn't "get it" at first: that these sections of KTC are for people that are tobacco free, period.
Minny,
I'm in MPLS as well. Mid 30's two small boys. Chewed for 20 years. Golf is/was a trigger for me (Link at Northfork). Driving too. Beers were/are the biggest trigger. You just have to get all those "firsts" out of the way. First time playing golf sans chew, first road trip without chew, etc. After all the firsts are knocked out, it gets much easier. I honestly think very little about chewing nowadays. I'm on autopilot, sort of. In the early days I never thought I would get to this point. Fog comes and goes but it gets easier by degrees. I'm on day 92. If a pussy like me can do it, so can you. It is a very rewarding thing and it's not all gritting your teeth and white-knuckling it through intense craves (although there are moments). Eventually you'll think less and less about it and it'll be second nature. PM me for digits. You can do this. You quit, so, that's all done. Now just get your mind right and and put this bitch to bed.
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Are you looking for excuses? I have no excuses. I am an addict and have been weak for a long time, always rationalizing one more tin/chew.
What happened?
I bought a tin. I had two quick guilt-ridden dips before tossing the can into the wastebasket.
Why did it happen?
Apparently, I wasn't serious about quitting.
What are you going to do different this time?
Get serious about quitting. For whatever the reason, it has taken interaction with ktc brothers for me to truly commit.
I hadn't read any of the replies to my earlier posts about being a serial quitter. Wastepanel, LionHeartedGirl, Dougie, CBird65, Jungleland, Billybill3934, and Mthomas3824, and others, have been particularly helpful in helping me recognize the absurdity in my serial quit. I also appreciate the concept of quitting each day, for one day. Wastepanel's comments in particular...
This time, I'm going to quit today, each day.
I realize that the Jake Frawleys of the world, having been on ktc for 3 weeks, are eager to toss me out for being poisonous to the group. Fair enough, I get it.
Minny -
Might be helpful if you shared a little about yourself, where you from, how'd you start, what your triggers are, what issues you may have in your life that have made in hard in the past for you to quit. It'll surprise you how many common threads there are among quitters.
BTW - you do realize no one really wants to toss you out - we want all you got dedicated to this quit - nothing less.
I'm around day 50, and it's taken that long for me to reeeaaally believe what a complete f'n idiot I've been to let this shit control me for so long. I can't change the past, but I damn sure can change today.
I'm in my early thirties, live in Minneapolis, and have a wife and daughter. I don't really have any life issues that make it harder than anyone else to quit. I do live a very stressful life, though I feel like most people do, too.
I got started with nic when a buddy's older brother started smoking and chewing. I was thirteen. I was a smoker and dipper for years until I met my wife, at which point I became a ninja dipper. Grizzly Wintergreen, Cope long cut, skoal and kodiak some times. I kicked my addiction into 5th gear when I realized I could put in an upper at work whenever I wanted to and no one knew.
My triggers are driving, working, hunting, fishing, golfing, playing vids, sporting clays, etc. Breathing... Beers certainly don't help the fight to quit.
Over the past nine days I've been in very tempting situations. Several long days in the car for work, 2 hours in a car with a dipping buddy and his tin within an arm's reach. Golfing with three other dippers, shooting clays with five pals chewing kodiak, etc. Yesterday a friend actually held out an open tin of bandits and offered me one, and for my birthday we spent the day on a boat and I was given cigars and a nice cutter. It was a perfect day for a cigar.
It has certainly gotten easier. Days 2, 3, and 4 were awful. I hope the fog doesn't come back.
I appreciate the support. I didn't "get it" at first: that these sections of KTC are for people that are tobacco free, period.
Minny,
Although your answers were brief, I'm glad to see you finally answered them and gave us some background about yourself. Like both you and FuFu, I lived in Minneapolis during college and make it back there a few times a year to visit friends and enjoy the amazing Minneapolis summertime.
And I have a lot of the exact same triggers you do. I started chewing when I was 16 and never looked back until I was 28 and started literally waring little holes in my gums. I can resonate what you said about pulling a top-decker; I discovered that around age 23 and that revolutionized how much poison I could squeeze into my system every day.
And since I'm from the Sioux Falls area, dipping on I-90, then on HWYs 30, 60, 169 was an integral part of my life for 10+ years. Every trip included multiple dips on each stretch of the journey. I'd spent more time with dip than any friend, family member, or significant other.
The funny thing was that I didn't really enjoy being around dip. Dip always required that I have an empty bottle or some beverage to consume along with it. Dip was constantly making me stock up in South Dakota where it was cheaper before I headed east. Dip started causing issues with my gums, gave me quasi panic attacks if I didn't have enough of it, and started affected my professional and personal decisions. And through all of this dip kept costing me more and more money.
Then one day (well, it was actually over the course of months) I started deciding that I really didn't like dip. I felt that dip was treating me as if I was a dependent, an addict, and that dip was disrespecting me. It was the quintessential bad romance. Dip was daring me to quit, to walk away, and each time I failed I became more addicted. Until one day I succeeded. I managed to free myself from dip's bondage and walk away. And I did so on a second day. And a third. And although breaking off the relationship hurt at first, I knew I didn't miss it, knew that I never wanted to go back.
And so here I sit at day 25 with you. The best way I can describe it is that I contracted some type of minor STD from dip and it occasionally flares up. It sucks because I will always fight this STD. But the symptoms become less and less with time. The biggest thing to remember is that if you ever participate in that bad romance again then the slavery comes back and rather than fighting a minor STD you're going to contract HIV. You can't flirt with this relationship and you can't start to romanticize about the "good times" you had. It was a depraved relationship in which you were a dependent through and through, and one that you can't EVER join again, not for any reason. So today let's be quit today and recognize the dip demon for exactly that.
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Thanks!
I really underestimated KTC. What's been most helpful is everyone's perspective and cold analysis.
I'm glad that I keep reading (and a bit more posting) others' comments. Dougie's talk of hitting the fog again at day 31 is helpful - it's easier to brace for it when you know it's coming.
A really strange thing happened on day 6: I found out that two of my duck blind pals that also quit chewing, but at separate times. They just quit cold turkey, no KTC, fake chew, etc. They've been quit for 6 and 3 weeks, respectively. One of them plans to start back up after 3 months (he just wanted to see if he could quit WTF?!?) and my conversation with the other buddy went something like this:
Him: "Yeah, I'm still gonna chew for the annual duck trip, though"
Me: "I was thinking that, too, but I tried that once and I ended up chewing straight through the year and on to the next trip. I started right back up again."
Him: "So you're saying we shouldn't chew while duck hunting?"
Me: "Yeah, I think I'm done with it."
Him: "Well maybe we should smoke then."
Me: "Yeah, I have no problem quitting smoking."
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WTF???
Firstly, no, I am not planning on caving/smoking/chewing, etc. This is just self-reflection on my self-talk.
WTF?? It's amazing that A) we have a hard time comprehending the annual duck trip without chewing, B we recognize that we're addicts and that we can't have just one chew but mostly that C) this absurd addict speak snuck its way into the conversation between two people who are quit (at least one of us, me).
Anyway, right now I'm feeling good and happy to be past what I think was the worst of it. I never want to do it again. If you're reading this and on the first couple of days, keep going and post roll every day, or QLFEDD as they say.
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What is "bump" on these boards?
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What is "bump" on these boards?
well there are 2 types of BUMP:
1 - when 2 people open up the window to insert their reply or quote (as we do in posting roll). Then when they save, the one that saves first is 'lost' when the second one saves (sort of like an overwrite, post is saved but is below the one that saved over the top).
2 - the other type of bump is when an older post is given a new 'timestamp', for instance if a 5 day old post is responded to and saved it comes to the top
hope that helps
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What is "bump" on these boards?
well there are 2 types of BUMP:
1 - when 2 people open up the window to insert their reply or quote (as we do in posting roll). Then when they save, the one that saves first is 'lost' when the second one saves (sort of like an overwrite, post is saved but is below the one that saved over the top).
2 - the other type of bump is when an older post is given a new 'timestamp', for instance if a 5 day old post is responded to and saved it comes to the top
hope that helps
3 - 'BanDog'
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What is "bump" on these boards?
well there are 2 types of BUMP:
1 - when 2 people open up the window to insert their reply or quote (as we do in posting roll). Then when they save, the one that saves first is 'lost' when the second one saves (sort of like an overwrite, post is saved but is below the one that saved over the top).
2 - the other type of bump is when an older post is given a new 'timestamp', for instance if a 5 day old post is responded to and saved it comes to the top
hope that helps
3 - 'BanDog'
only for those in the glass house CS 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup'
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Thanks!
I really underestimated KTC. What's been most helpful is everyone's perspective and cold analysis.
I'm glad that I keep reading (and a bit more posting) other's comments. Dougie's talk of hitting the fog again at day 31 is helpful - it's easier to brace for it when you know it's coming.
A really strange thing happened on day 6: I found out that two of my duck blind pals that also quit chewing, but at separate times. They just quit cold turkey, no KTC, fake chew, etc. They've been quit for 6 and 3 weeks, respectively. One of them plans to start back up after 3 months (he just wanted to see if he could quit WTF?!?) and my conversation with the other buddy went something like this:
Him: "Yeah, I'm still gonna chew for the annual duck trip, though"
Me: "I was thinking that, too, but I tried that once and I ended up chewing straight through the year and on to the next trip. I started right back up again."
Him: "So you're saying we shouldn't chew while duck hunting?"
Me: "Yeah, I think I'm done with it."
Him: "Well maybe we should smoke then."
Me: "Yeah, I have no problem quitting smoking."
..........
WTF?? And yes, I am aware of the weak words and such. I'm just being honest with you assholes!
Anyway, right now I'm feeling good and happy to be past what I think was the worst of it. I never want to do it again. If you're reading this and on the first couple of days, keep going and post roll every day, or QLFEDD as they say.
So you are planning on caving by smoking cigs on your duck hunt? Am I reading this correctly?
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Thanks!             Â
I really underestimated KTC. What's been most helpful is everyone's perspective and cold analysis.Â
I'm glad that I keep reading (and a bit more posting) other's comments. Dougie's talk of hitting the fog again at day 31 is helpful - it's easier to brace for it when you know it's coming.
A really strange thing happened on day 6: I found out that two of my duck blind pals that also quit chewing, but at separate times. They just quit cold turkey, no KTC, fake chew, etc. They've been quit for 6 and 3 weeks, respectively. One of them plans to start back up after 3 months (he just wanted to see if he could quit WTF?!?) and my conversation with the other buddy went something like this:
Him: "Yeah, I'm still gonna chew for the annual duck trip, though"
Me: "I was thinking that, too, but I tried that once and I ended up chewing straight through the year and on to the next trip. I started right back up again."
Him: "So you're saying we shouldn't chew while duck hunting?"
Me: "Yeah, I think I'm done with it."
Him: "Well maybe we should smoke then."
Me: "Yeah, I have no problem quitting smoking."
..........
WTF?? And yes, I am aware of the weak words and such. I'm just being honest with you assholes!
Anyway, right now I'm feeling good and happy to be past what I think was the worst of it. I never want to do it again. If you're reading this and on the first couple of days, keep going and post roll every day, or QLFEDD as they say.
So you are planning on caving by smoking cigs on your duck hunt? Am I reading this correctly?
Please tell me you worded that incorrectly!
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Thanks!             Â
I really underestimated KTC. What's been most helpful is everyone's perspective and cold analysis.Â
I'm glad that I keep reading (and a bit more posting) other's comments. Dougie's talk of hitting the fog again at day 31 is helpful - it's easier to brace for it when you know it's coming.
A really strange thing happened on day 6: I found out that two of my duck blind pals that also quit chewing, but at separate times. They just quit cold turkey, no KTC, fake chew, etc. They've been quit for 6 and 3 weeks, respectively. One of them plans to start back up after 3 months (he just wanted to see if he could quit WTF?!?) and my conversation with the other buddy went something like this:
Him: "Yeah, I'm still gonna chew for the annual duck trip, though"
Me: "I was thinking that, too, but I tried that once and I ended up chewing straight through the year and on to the next trip. I started right back up again."
Him: "So you're saying we shouldn't chew while duck hunting?"
Me: "Yeah, I think I'm done with it."
Him: "Well maybe we should smoke then."
Me: "Yeah, I have no problem quitting smoking."
..........
WTF?? And yes, I am aware of the weak words and such. I'm just being honest with you assholes!
Anyway, right now I'm feeling good and happy to be past what I think was the worst of it. I never want to do it again. If you're reading this and on the first couple of days, keep going and post roll every day, or QLFEDD as they say.
So you are planning on caving by smoking cigs on your duck hunt? Am I reading this correctly?
Please tell me you worded that incorrectly!
I'm just checking in while on vacation because I have had some strong craves.... This is not what I wanted to read! Are you fucking kidding me! I hope this is a bad joke! You failed once already and now you post this! Do you NOT get it? I gotta believe that even the dumbest person on this site ( which is probably me) can see that this idea is the worst one ever posted! Quit chewing only to actively decide to smoke? Jesus Fucking Christ! That's a slap in the face for everything this site believes in! The bible says this... Better to be thought a fool then to open your mouth and prove everyone right! I hope you are joking because you CANNOT be this misguided! Smoking is just as bad! Ask LHG! I gotta leave this conversation for awhile because I need more positive conversation today! I hope you wake up!
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LOL It was worded poorly, for sure. The "and such" after weak words had to do with my addict speak.
I am not planning on smoking for the duck hunt. In fact, I am looking forward to a nic free duck hunt.
I was only giving you an example of some of the most fucked up addict speak ever spoken. Look, I'm an addict and I'll always be an addict.
'Crazy'
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LOL It was worded poorly, for sure. The "and such" after weak words had to do with my addict speak.
I am not planning on smoking for the duck hunt. In fact, I am looking forward to a nic free duck hunt.
I was only giving you an example of some of the most fucked up addict speak ever spoken. Look, I'm an addict and I'll always be an addict.
'Crazy'
Thank God! I was ready to bang my head on a wall!
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Holy shit today has been a rough one. I don't know if it's because I didn't get enough sleep last night or what, but it feels like day 2 all over again: anxious and craving.
Just when I was feeling (and posting) that I was on easy street!
This has not been a very productive day!
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Holy shit today has been a rough one. I don't know if it's because I didn't get enough sleep last night or what, but it feels like day 2 all over again: anxious and craving.
Just when I was feeling (and posting) that I was on easy street!
This has not been a very productive day!
For me the 1st month was like a roller coaster- ups and downs- just gotta learn to roll with the punches but roll with laughter and roll with pride in keeping quit-
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Holy shit today has been a rough one. I don't know if it's because I didn't get enough sleep last night or what, but it feels like day 2 all over again: anxious and craving.
Just when I was feeling (and posting) that I was on easy street!
This has not been a very productive day!
For me the 1st month was like a roller coaster- ups and downs- just gotta learn to roll with the punches but roll with laughter and roll with pride in keeping quit-
There may be ups and downs but I know that the attitude within this site is constant. Fucking badass determination. No hesitation. Fuckers willing to fight for freedom. You got this. One step on the path.
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Day 11
Last night I dreamt that I was smoking a cigar and thought to myself, "What the fuck, I CAVED?!? THE KTC SLUTS ARE GOING TO KILL ME!"
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Day 11
Last night I dreamt that I was smoking a cigar and thought to myself, "What the fuck, I CAVED?!? THE KTC SLUTS ARE GOING TO KILL ME!"
Cave dreams are scary. With over 700 days quit, I still get them from time to time.
But I like them. It allows me to preview the shame and remorse that I would feel if I ever did cave. It is a great relief to wake up and realize that it was just a dream.
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Day 12
Yesterday I had a steady crave alllllllll day long. I liked my reaction to it, though: I was PISSED OFF at the nic bitch.
I'll be surrounded by tobacco all day today but you know what? Bring it on. I am ready for today.
Happy 4th. 'Cheers'
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Day 13
Yesterday was a breeze. I was around the nic bitch all damn day and I had cravings, but it was easy to keep my quit.
I am really enjoying not lying to my wife. I was reading a post this morning from Diesel2112 that realized that he spent his days paving the way to his next dip. Shit, I think that was me, too. I wonder how much more time I will spend with my family now that I quit.
You all rock. Enjoy the weekend.
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Day 13
Yesterday was a breeze. I was around the nic bitch all damn day and I had cravings, but it was easy to keep my quit.
I am really enjoying not lying to my wife. I was reading a post this morning from Diesel2112 that realized that he spent his days paving the way to his next dip. Shit, I think that was me, too. I wonder how much more time I will spend with my family now that I quit.
You all rock. Enjoy the weekend.
'40' '40' '40'
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Day 13
Yesterday was a breeze. I was around the nic bitch all damn day and I had cravings, but it was easy to keep my quit.
I am really enjoying not lying to my wife. I was reading a post this morning from Diesel2112 that realized that he spent his days paving the way to his next dip. Shit, I think that was me, too. I wonder how much more time I will spend with my family now that I quit.
You all rock. Enjoy the weekend.
'40' '40' '40'
It is amazing how much time you have to spend with family, friends. I never realized how much time I wasted with them. The fun part of quitting for me has been discovering the new "Greg" and to be honest I like him much better!!
Keep adding +1's
Anyone can quit for just one day....
STAY QUIT
Greg
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Day 13
Yesterday was a breeze. I was around the nic bitch all damn day and I had cravings, but it was easy to keep my quit.
I am really enjoying not lying to my wife. I was reading a post this morning from Diesel2112 that realized that he spent his days paving the way to his next dip. Shit, I think that was me, too. I wonder how much more time I will spend with my family now that I quit.
You all rock. Enjoy the weekend.
'40' '40' '40'
It is amazing how much time you have to spend with family, friends. I never realized how much time I wasted with them. The fun part of quitting for me has been discovering the new "Greg" and to be honest I like him much better!!
Keep adding +1's
Anyone can quit for just one day....
STAY QUIT
Greg
It's amazing to me that we "loved" our wives but at the same time resented them for being around because we wanted to chew in peace. Now that we are quit we are free to really love our wives! We don't need to hide an addiction that takes from us and our family. I'm glad that you are getting to experience this! It's what quitting is all about! LIVING!
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Day 13
Yesterday was a breeze. I was around the nic bitch all damn day and I had cravings, but it was easy to keep my quit.
I am really enjoying not lying to my wife. I was reading a post this morning from Diesel2112 that realized that he spent his days paving the way to his next dip. Shit, I think that was me, too. I wonder how much more time I will spend with my family now that I quit.
You all rock. Enjoy the weekend.
'40' '40' '40'
It is amazing how much time you have to spend with family, friends. I never realized how much time I wasted with them. The fun part of quitting for me has been discovering the new "Greg" and to be honest I like him much better!!
Keep adding +1's
Anyone can quit for just one day....
STAY QUIT
Greg
Yea isn't freedom wonderful!!! Quit with you.
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Day 13
Yesterday was a breeze. I was around the nic bitch all damn day and I had cravings, but it was easy to keep my quit.
I am really enjoying not lying to my wife. I was reading a post this morning from Diesel2112 that realized that he spent his days paving the way to his next dip. Shit, I think that was me, too. I wonder how much more time I will spend with my family now that I quit.
You all rock. Enjoy the weekend.
'40' '40' '40'
Test: '40'
YEAH! Thank you jhaenel!
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Day 13
Yesterday was a breeze. I was around the nic bitch all damn day and I had cravings, but it was easy to keep my quit.
I am really enjoying not lying to my wife. I was reading a post this morning from Diesel2112 that realized that he spent his days paving the way to his next dip. Shit, I think that was me, too. I wonder how much more time I will spend with my family now that I quit.
You all rock. Enjoy the weekend.
'40' '40' '40'
Test: '40'
YEAH! Thank you jhaenel!
Someone smarter than me said something like "it's amazing what you can see by the light of your burning boat."
Nice work bud. Embrace that accountability. It's like making you whole again while we separate out the addict.
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Day 15
Things are going pretty well, though I was one crabby SOB at times yesterday.
It's great to have spent all day with my family walking around the lakes without ever even thinking about nic. Now we're home and I'm NOT looking for an excuse that would give me an opportunity to have a chew. Before I was quit, this I would have been gameplanning on how I would work in my next fix. Sometimes it was as simple as running an errand or doing a chore in the garage. But many times I would leave the house for several hours to go "watch the game" with a buddy or something. Yeah, I would go watch 'the game', but I really didn't give a shit if the Lions beat the Cardinals on Sunday Night Football. It was just a place to chew in peace.
Looking back on it, I wonder how many things I did that I otherwise wouldn't have done, all in order to get nicotine into my system. Seriously, instead of hanging out with my wife, I'd instead be doing ANYTHING that was plausible in order to sit there with a fat chew in my lip.
I wasn't directly lying to my wife. She knew I chewed. If she asked about it, I told her the truth. My lying was lying of omission, which worked well because we had been operating under a pretty solid Don't Ask Don't Tell policy.
I'm also guilty of Bill Clinton-esque "it depends on what your definition of is is" lies. Wife: "Have you been chewing lately?" Me: "Every now and then, yeah. I'm working on it, though." In this instance every now and then could mean every time I drove my car and then again when I was at my desk.
TL;DR - I like not finding reasons to be away, just so I could chew. While I wasn't directly lying to my wife, I felt guilty for other forms of lies.
Congrats to all of you for adding a +1. Keep it up.
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Day 15
Things are going pretty well, though I was one crabby SOB at times yesterday.
It's great to have spent all day with my family walking around the lakes without ever even thinking about nic. Now we're home and I'm NOT looking for an excuse that would give me an opportunity to have a chew. Before I was quit, this I would have been gameplanning on how I would work in my next fix. Sometimes it was as simple as running an errand or doing a chore in the garage. But many times I would leave the house for several hours to go "watch the game" with a buddy or something. Yeah, I would go watch 'the game', but I really didn't give a shit if the Lions beat the Cardinals on Sunday Night Football. It was just a place to chew in peace.
Looking back on it, I wonder how many things I did that I otherwise wouldn't have done, all in order to get nicotine into my system. Seriously, instead of hanging out with my wife, I'd instead be doing ANYTHING that was plausible in order to sit there with a fat chew in my lip.
I wasn't directly lying to my wife. She knew I chewed. If she asked about it, I told her the truth. My lying was lying of omission, which worked well because we had been operating under a pretty solid Don't Ask Don't Tell policy.
I'm also guilty of Bill Clinton-esque "it depends on what your definition of is is" lies. Wife: "Have you been chewing lately?" Me: "Every now and then, yeah. I'm working on it, though." In this instance every now and then could mean every time I drove my car and then again when I was at my desk.
TL;DR - I like not finding reasons to be away, just so I could chew. While I wasn't directly lying to my wife, I felt guilty for other forms of lies.
Congrats to all of you for adding a +1. Keep it up.
wow, I remember having those same realizations Minnie. It sounds like you "get this". day 15 huh, you are doing great, light years ahead of where I was at day 15. Stay the course man. Let me know if you need anything.
Ryan
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Hey Minny. If you think you can reinvent ktc and type NAFAR and then in the very next sentence say you will still have an occasional cigar with your father in law, then your sadly mistaken. You did write such a thing in ET's thread.
This is a NO nicotine site. As in zero.
Got it?
If not, gtfo.
No disrespect.
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Hey Minny. If you think you can reinvent ktc and type NAFAR and then in the very next sentence say you will still have an occasional cigar with your father in law, then your sadly mistaken. You did write such a thing in ET's thread.
This is a NO nicotine site. As in zero.
Got it?
If not, gtfo.
No disrespect.
X 2
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Hey Minny. If you think you can reinvent ktc and type NAFAR and then in the very next sentence say you will still have an occasional cigar with your father in law, then your sadly mistaken. You did write such a thing in ET's thread.
This is a NO nicotine site. As in zero.
Got it?
If not, gtfo.
No disrespect.
X 2
X 3
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Hey Minny. If you think you can reinvent ktc and type NAFAR and then in the very next sentence say you will still have an occasional cigar with your father in law, then your sadly mistaken. You did write such a thing in ET's thread.
This is a NO nicotine site. As in zero.
Got it?
If not, gtfo.
No disrespect.
X 2
X 3
X4 you really need to check yourself 2 caves from May to June you are an albatross for new quitters
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Hey Minny. If you think you can reinvent ktc and type NAFAR and then in the very next sentence say you will still have an occasional cigar with your father in law, then your sadly mistaken. You did write such a thing in ET's thread.
This is a NO nicotine site. As in zero.
Got it?
If not, gtfo.
No disrespect.
X 2
X 3
X4 you really need to check yourself 2 caves from May to June you are an albatross for new quitters
X 5
:scowick:
There are no such things as "Special Butterflies" Scowick
Drink the Kool Aid or GTFO!!
J
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Minny there is a reason you see the term Never Again For Any Reason or NAFAR all over this site; that is because just one cave will turn your quit into a break you took... We are nicotine addicts! Nicotine is what we are quitting! It does not matter what the delivery system is: dip, chew, cigs, gum, patches, and yes even CIGARS! Even if you are Clintonesque and do not inhale you are caving if smoke a stoggie with your f.i.n.! I thought I had quit a couple of times in the past, but because I allowed nic back in I ended up using for another decade... Lots of others here have had the same experience over and over. It is nic bitch lies playbook 101... You are a bas ass quitter you can have 1 pinch or 1 cigar... It is a lie, and a cave period... If you remember day 1 you would be wise to embrace NAFAR as your motto, and remember NICOTINE is the enemy in all its forms...
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Minny there is a reason you see the term Never Again For Any Reason or NAFAR all over this site; that is because just one cave will turn your quit into a break you took... We are nicotine addicts! Nicotine is what we are quitting! It does not matter what the delivery system is: dip, chew, cigs, gum, patches, and yes even CIGARS! Even if you are Clintonesque and do not inhale you are caving if smoke a stoggie with your f.i.n.! I thought I had quit a couple of times in the past, but because I allowed nic back in I ended up using for another decade... Lots of others here have had the same experience over and over. It is nic bitch lies playbook 101... You are a bas ass quitter you can have 1 pinch or 1 cigar... It is a lie, and a cave period... If you remember day 1 you would be wise to embrace NAFAR as your motto, and remember NICOTINE is the enemy in all its forms...
'clap' 'clap' 'clap'
Hell Yeah!!
THis one gets it!! Bravo!!!
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Minny there is a reason you see the term Never Again For Any Reason or NAFAR all over this site; that is because just one cave will turn your quit into a break you took... We are nicotine addicts! Nicotine is what we are quitting! It does not matter what the delivery system is: dip, chew, cigs, gum, patches, and yes even CIGARS! Even if you are Clintonesque and do not inhale you are caving if smoke a stoggie with your f.i.n.! I thought I had quit a couple of times in the past, but because I allowed nic back in I ended up using for another decade... Lots of others here have had the same experience over and over. It is nic bitch lies playbook 101... You are a bas ass quitter you can have 1 pinch or 1 cigar... It is a lie, and a cave period... If you remember day 1 you would be wise to embrace NAFAR as your motto, and remember NICOTINE is the enemy in all its forms...
'clap' 'clap' 'clap'
Hell Yeah!!
THis one gets it!! Bravo!!!
Fuck yea B-lo. Hell yea man!!! That's The quit we need right there.
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It's tough to respond to half a dozen different posts aimed in my direction, but I'll do my best:
-ET's honesty about his thoughts and actions, even if they are wrong, are a healthy contribution to this group.
-I understand that cigars are a cave, which is exactly my point: I have work to do mentally i.e. I haven't accepted that, as an addict, I cannot have a cigar with my father in law in five years. I acknowledge that my thinking is fucked and that I need to get my head right.
-I never condoned caving.
-ET's head isn't right yet. That doesn't mean he should go away. How about we help him (and me) understand what being an addict means and how what he did was so fucked up? (and no, I still haven't read the entire thread).
-Let's not forget that ET is quitting for himself, not you.
-Why would you want someone that's trying to find his quit to try and find it somewhere else?
A friend of mine had a severe drinking problem. For whatever reason, he refused to talk about it with almost everyone except for me with which he would speak openly. He would talk about how he would try only drinking on weekends, and then his plan was to avoid shots, hard alcohol, and then it was "I'll only drink wine" and then it was "I'll only drink when..." You get the point. Did I tell him to go fuck himself and find another friend to talk to when he didn't get it? No, he kept rationalizing and we kept coming back to the same answer: he was an alcoholic and he must adhere to NAFAR. He's 3 years sober +1 tomorrow.
So here I am, a total nic addict trying to hold on to AT LEAST my occasional cigars. Do I know that I ultimately have to come to grips with my addiction and what NAFAR means? Yes. Am I totally there yet? No. But I quit today, and I'll quit again tomorrow. And I'll keep hashing it out with you fucks instead of listening to your advice to take a hike, because I know I that me putting my thoughts on paper and listening to your advice/thoughts/experience is helping.
Anyway, I quit with all of you tomorrow. ET included.
By the way, I think it's Fu Fu the Snu's HOF day tomorrow.
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It's tough to respond to half a dozen different posts aimed in my direction, but I'll do my best:
-ET's honesty about his thoughts and actions, even if they are wrong, are a healthy contribution to this group.
-I understand that cigars are a cave, which is exactly my point: I have work to do mentally i.e. I haven't accepted that, as an addict, I cannot have a cigar with my father in law in five years. I acknowledge that my thinking is fucked and that I need to get my head right.
-I never condoned caving.
-ET's head isn't right yet. That doesn't mean he should go away. How about we help him (and me) understand what being an addict means and how what he did was so fucked up? (and no, I still haven't read the entire thread).
-Let's not forget that ET is quitting for himself, not you.
-Why would you want someone that's trying to find his quit to try and find it somewhere else?
A friend of mine had a severe drinking problem. For whatever reason, he refused to talk about it with almost everyone except for me with which he would speak openly. He would talk about how he would try only drinking on weekends, and then his plan was to avoid shots, hard alcohol, and then it was "I'll only drink wine" and then it was "I'll only drink when..." You get the point. Did I tell him to go fuck himself and find another friend to talk to when he didn't get it? No, he kept rationalizing and we kept coming back to the same answer: he was an alcoholic and he must adhere to NAFAR. He's 3 years sober +1 tomorrow.
So here I am, a total nic addict trying to hold on to AT LEAST my occasional cigars. Do I know that I ultimately have to come to grips with my addiction and what NAFAR means? Yes. Am I totally there yet? No. But I quit today, and I'll quit again tomorrow. And I'll keep hashing it out with you fucks instead of listening to your advice to take a hike, because I know I that me putting my thoughts on paper and listening to your advice/thoughts/experience is helping.
Anyway, I quit with all of you tomorrow. ET included.
By the way, I think it's Fu Fu the Snu's HOF day tomorrow.
Touching story about you and your friend. But this isn't one on one buddy to buddy stuff.
This is a community , with rules, and where your WORD is all you have. We truly dont ""know" eachother from an asshole in the wall.
Your words were pretty strong on ET's thread. Almost like, "yeah, if we want to have one for old times sake, its cool".
KTC way or the highway....bullshit?????
You type that you are gonna get clobbered and rightfully so.
This community has rules and procedures that are proven to help you quit.
There's no wiggle room.
You want to "wiggle", lie, or try and reinvent things...move along.
NOBODY wants to see you leave. EVERYBODY wants to see you quit, but when you start talking crazy, people WILL jump your shit.
It's just the way it goes around here.
I suggest you get your fucking head on straight and accept the fact that you won't be smokiing any stogies with your FIL anymore. Tell him why. I'm sure he will understand.
I'm sure a cigar isn't the lynch pin in your relationship.
You're an addict. You don't get to hold on to ANYTHING. You can't handle it.
If you could you wouldn't have come here.
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You have to be quit of nic to be here, and even though I have only been here for a little bit I have seen the holy shit storm that comes if anyone even thinks they read anything about having just 1 or taking a drag off a cig, and if it is mixed with talk about how there are more ways to quit than the KTC way forget about it. That is like blood in the water for the sharks swimming here. I am proud to quit with ET every day, and I am proud to quit with you. I know firsthand how fragile my quit can be, and am only trying to warn you from my mistake. Hell ET has done better than I have because he got right back on the quit bus. Last time I took a break it took me 2 years to get free, and only because I found this site. Your last reply explains better your line of thinking, but here is the easy solution: do not worry about not having that stoggie with your f.i.l. 5 years from now. Just promise not to have it today, and repeat in the morning.
P.s. do not take this the wrong way, but maybe your friend needs some tough love to get him to quit. Someone to talk to is nice, but we are all about quitting here. Put your friend in a chat room with a bunch of quit alcoholics, and he will get the same no excuses no bs that we are offering here.
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It's tough to respond to half a dozen different posts aimed in my direction, but I'll do my best:
-ET's honesty about his thoughts and actions, even if they are wrong, are a healthy contribution to this group.
-I understand that cigars are a cave, which is exactly my point: I have work to do mentally i.e. I haven't accepted that, as an addict, I cannot have a cigar with my father in law in five years. I acknowledge that my thinking is fucked and that I need to get my head right.
-I never condoned caving.
-ET's head isn't right yet. That doesn't mean he should go away. How about we help him (and me) understand what being an addict means and how what he did was so fucked up? (and no, I still haven't read the entire thread).
-Let's not forget that ET is quitting for himself, not you.
-Why would you want someone that's trying to find his quit to try and find it somewhere else?
A friend of mine had a severe drinking problem. For whatever reason, he refused to talk about it with almost everyone except for me with which he would speak openly. He would talk about how he would try only drinking on weekends, and then his plan was to avoid shots, hard alcohol, and then it was "I'll only drink wine" and then it was "I'll only drink when..." You get the point. Did I tell him to go fuck himself and find another friend to talk to when he didn't get it? No, he kept rationalizing and we kept coming back to the same answer: he was an alcoholic and he must adhere to NAFAR. He's 3 years sober +1 tomorrow.
So here I am, a total nic addict trying to hold on to AT LEAST my occasional cigars. Do I know that I ultimately have to come to grips with my addiction and what NAFAR means? Yes. Am I totally there yet? No. But I quit today, and I'll quit again tomorrow. And I'll keep hashing it out with you fucks instead of listening to your advice to take a hike, because I know I that me putting my thoughts on paper and listening to your advice/thoughts/experience is helping.
Anyway, I quit with all of you tomorrow. ET included.
By the way, I think it's Fu Fu the Snu's HOF day tomorrow.
Touching story about you and your friend. But this isn't one on one buddy to buddy stuff.
This is a community , with rules, and where your WORD is all you have. We truly dont ""know" eachother from an asshole in the wall.
Your words were pretty strong on ET's thread. Almost like, "yeah, if we want to have one for old times sake, its cool".
KTC way or the highway....bullshit?????
You type that you are gonna get clobbered and rightfully so.
This community has rules and procedures that are proven to help you quit.
There's no wiggle room.
You want to "wiggle", lie, or try and reinvent things...move along.
NOBODY wants to see you leave. EVERYBODY wants to see you quit, but when you start talking crazy, people WILL jump your shit.
It's just the way it goes around here.
I suggest you get your fucking head on straight and accept the fact that you won't be smokiing any stogies with your FIL anymore. Tell him why. I'm sure he will understand.
I'm sure a cigar isn't the lynch pin in your relationship.
You're an addict. You don't get to hold on to ANYTHING. You can't handle it.
If you could you wouldn't have come here.
Not much else to say to that. Deisel pretty well covered. I tried to type a response to your post on thors thread but I couldnt make it sound right. This is just what I was trying to say.
Keep quitting Minny, this cigar talk is the addict in you hanging on for dear life. Nicotine will not let you of you easily. Be stronger than that. Don't be decieved by the "cigar every once in a while" mentality. It has led many quitters back to the pack or can a day usage. I know this firsthand.
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Hey Minny. If you think you can reinvent ktc and type NAFAR and then in the very next sentence say you will still have an occasional cigar with your father in law, then your sadly mistaken. You did write such a thing in ET's thread.
This is a NO nicotine site. As in zero.
Got it?
If not, gtfo.
No disrespect.
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X4 you really need to check yourself 2 caves from May to June you are an albatross for new quitters
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There are no such things as "Special Butterflies" Scowick
Drink the Kool Aid or GTFO!!
J
Sigh. What's the issue with some of you, reading comprehension or not taking the time to read?
Many of you are just like the guy at the party that is clearly just waiting for you to finish your sentence so he can flap his lips. He never listens and always misses the point.
I took me a couple of days, but now I realize that this site has a social hierarchy similar to that of a junior high school. There are the old legends, the bullies, the suckups, the quiet kids, the ones that try too hard to fit in, and a whole bunch of normal kids.
Some of you guys get MUCH more than quit support from this site: power trip, drama filler, the opportunity to tell someone to f off from the comfort of your keyboard.
I once worked in a small company and the HR lady was a real hothead. She just LOVED to use whatever power she had because she was mostly powerless in the rest of her life. There was another guy there that drove a great big jacked up pickup with 33" tires, over compensating for something, I'm sure. Does any of this sound familiar?
Reinventing? Lying? Please. Someone that owns up to a cave is clearly honest with themselves and with KTC.
How many of you quitters have caved and not owned up to it? How many of the mods have done so but get too much from this site to fess up and lose their spot in the hierarchy? Zero? Yeah, okay.
Now, quick: recite the KTC mantra and tell me to GTFO in the most colorful and creative ways possible. The winners get emoticons and words of approval.
Jake Frawley, you're first. Be sure to use exclamation marks and JFCs.
'Finger'
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Hey Minny. If you think you can reinvent ktc and type NAFAR and then in the very next sentence say you will still have an occasional cigar with your father in law, then your sadly mistaken. You did write such a thing in ET's thread.
This is a NO nicotine site. As in zero.
Got it?
If not, gtfo.
No disrespect.
X 2
X 3
X4 you really need to check yourself 2 caves from May to June you are an albatross for new quitters
X 5
:scowick:
There are no such things as "Special Butterflies" Scowick
Drink the Kool Aid or GTFO!!
J
Sigh. What's the issue with some of you, reading comprehension or not taking the time to read?
Many of you are just like the guy at the party that is clearly just waiting for you to finish your sentence so he can flap his lips. He never listens and always misses the point.
I took me a couple of days, but now I realize that this site has a social hierarchy similar to that of a junior high school. There are the old legends, the bullies, the suckups, the quiet kids, the ones that try too hard to fit in, and a whole bunch of normal kids.
Some of you guys get MUCH more than quit support from this site: power trip, drama filler, the opportunity to tell someone to f off from the comfort of your keyboard.
I once worked in a small company and the HR lady was a real hothead. She just LOVED to use whatever power she had because she was mostly powerless in the rest of her life. There was another guy there that drove a great big jacked up pickup with 33" tires, over compensating for something, I'm sure. Does any of this sound familiar?
Reinventing? Lying? Please. Someone that owns up to a cave is clearly honest with themselves and with KTC.
How many of you quitters have caved and not owned up to it? How many of the mods have done so but get too much from this site to fess up and lose their spot in the hierarchy? Zero? Yeah, okay.
Now, quick: recite the KTC mantra and tell me to GTFO in the most colorful and creative ways possible. The winners get emoticons and words of approval.
Jake Frawley, you're first. Be sure to use exclamation marks and JFCs.
'Finger'
Ok here goes fuckyou 'Finger' they are 35's get it right (it was a project with my son I owe you no explanation) I am not the one running around with the name Mini you wanna think a smoke is ok with the FIL now or in 5 years go ahead you dont wanna watch your quit then I wont bother helping watch it for you. Did I forget anything I said fuckyou used emoticons. As far as you calling mods out you did that you made your bed now live it.
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borrowing this from jaynellie
Can we get back to the basic principals of why this works if "YOU/WE" want to stay quit ODAAT!!!!
Post Fucking Roll Everyday!!!
This Isn't Fucking Rocket-Science People!!!
No Drama Required to post just Accountability!!!
Keep It Simple Stupid
Just My .02
you got a problem with this you pm me your number and we'll have a discussion
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Hey Minny. If you think you can reinvent ktc and type NAFAR and then in the very next sentence say you will still have an occasional cigar with your father in law, then your sadly mistaken. You did write such a thing in ET's thread.
This is a NO nicotine site. As in zero.
Got it?
If not, gtfo.
No disrespect.
X 2
X 3
X4 you really need to check yourself 2 caves from May to June you are an albatross for new quitters
X 5
:scowick:
There are no such things as "Special Butterflies" Scowick
Drink the Kool Aid or GTFO!!
J
Sigh. What's the issue with some of you, reading comprehension or not taking the time to read?
Many of you are just like the guy at the party that is clearly just waiting for you to finish your sentence so he can flap his lips. He never listens and always misses the point.
I took me a couple of days, but now I realize that this site has a social hierarchy similar to that of a junior high school. There are the old legends, the bullies, the suckups, the quiet kids, the ones that try too hard to fit in, and a whole bunch of normal kids.
Some of you guys get MUCH more than quit support from this site: power trip, drama filler, the opportunity to tell someone to f off from the comfort of your keyboard.
I once worked in a small company and the HR lady was a real hothead. She just LOVED to use whatever power she had because she was mostly powerless in the rest of her life. There was another guy there that drove a great big jacked up pickup with 33" tires, over compensating for something, I'm sure. Does any of this sound familiar?
Reinventing? Lying? Please. Someone that owns up to a cave is clearly honest with themselves and with KTC.
How many of you quitters have caved and not owned up to it? How many of the mods have done so but get too much from this site to fess up and lose their spot in the hierarchy? Zero? Yeah, okay.
Now, quick: recite the KTC mantra and tell me to GTFO in the most colorful and creative ways possible. The winners get emoticons and words of approval.
Jake Frawley, you're first. Be sure to use exclamation marks and JFCs.
'Finger'
Ok here goes fuckyou 'Finger' they are 35's get it right (it was a project with my son I owe you no explanation) I am not the one running around with the name Mini you wanna think a smoke is ok with the FIL now or in 5 years go ahead you dont wanna watch your quit then I wont bother helping watch it for you. Did I forget anything I said fuckyou used emoticons. As far as you calling mods out you did that you made your bed now live it.
'Popcorn'
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I never said I was going to smoke cigars. I said that I was still trying to get my head around the fact that I am an addict and that I can't and that it's forever and that I was struggling with accepting that.
I was sympathizing with Enraged Thor.
I went on to say that I all I can focus on, like b-lo summarized very well, is that I just have to worry about being quit today and then again tomorrow. Repeat.
F'n A.
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I never said I was going to smoke cigars. I said that I was still trying to get my head around the fact that I am an addict and that I can't and that it's for ever and that I was struggling with accepting that.
I was sympathizing with Enraged Thor.
I went on to say that I all I can focus in on, like b-lo summarized very well, is that I just have to worry about being quit today and then again tomorrow. Repeat.
F'n A.
Dont worry about forever, dont even worry about tomorrow. Quit today.. Post your word, keep your promise. Simple...
The rest will take care of itself.
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I never said I was going to smoke cigars. I said that I was still trying to get my head around the fact that I am an addict and that I can't and that it's forever and that I was struggling with accepting that.
I was sympathizing with Enraged Thor.
I went on to say that I all I can focus on, like b-lo summarized very well, is that I just have to worry about being quit today and then again tomorrow. Repeat.
F'n A.
Minny, I felt the same way you did about cigars...same exact way. My brother in law gets Cubans...often and is generous. If you stay active here and keep posting your quit, the day that comes where your FIL offers you one (and it will come), you will say no. No doubt in my mind. Stay committed to this site and quitting one day at a time. Take what you need and leave the rest.
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How many of the mods have done so but get too much from this site to fess up and lose their spot in the hierarchy? Zero? Yeah, okay.
He who questions my accountability to my brothers, my commitment to this place, and especially my integrity can kindly go fuck themselves!!!
No fuking emoticons needed.
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I never said I was going to smoke cigars. I said that I was still trying to get my head around the fact that I am an addict and that I can't and that it's forever and that I was struggling with accepting that.Â
I was sympathizing with Enraged Thor.
I went on to say that I all I can focus on, like b-lo summarized very well, is that I just have to worry about being quit today and then again tomorrow. Repeat.
F'n A.
Minny, I felt the same way you did about cigars...same exact way. My brother in law gets Cubans...often and is generous. If you stay active here and keep posting your quit, the day that comes where your FIL offers you one (and it will come), you will say no. No doubt in my mind. Stay committed to this site and quitting one day at a time. Take what you need and leave the rest.
That's good to hear. Thank you.
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Minny-
You are quitting like a bad ass- keep it up.
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I never said I was going to smoke cigars. I said that I was still trying to get my head around the fact that I am an addict and that I can't and that it's for ever and that I was struggling with accepting that.
I was sympathizing with Enraged Thor.
I went on to say that I all I can focus in on, like b-lo summarized very well, is that I just have to worry about being quit today and then again tomorrow. Repeat.
F'n A.
Exactly thats what everyone has been trying to tell you. you gotta focus on your quit. Protect it at all costs!!! NAFAR isnt just an acronym...live it. What you did was a gesture of support not my call on if it was foolish or not I wanted you to think about it before you decided to fall on your sword. ET has taken from this site and from his post count hasnt given much back. Maybe my wording wasnt the best but w two caves your focus should be on you. There is nothing wrong (in my book I am sure I will be corrected if I am wrong) with being the most selfish bastard on earth in the beginning protecting your quit. I stayed home and away from anything that would risk my quit. I cut back on brew and when I did have brew the vets would remind me to keep it in moderation and have a safety plan. Thats how this site works we watch out for eachother we do what we can to help people stay quit. I didnt know all this about quit when I got here I have learned it and what I havent learned I have been taught.
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I never said I was going to smoke cigars. I said that I was still trying to get my head around the fact that I am an addict and that I can't and that it's for ever and that I was struggling with accepting that.Â
I was sympathizing with Enraged Thor.
I went on to say that I all I can focus in on, like b-lo summarized very well, is that I just have to worry about being quit today and then again tomorrow. Repeat.
F'n A.
Exactly thats what everyone has been trying to tell you. you gotta focus on your quit. Protect it at all costs!!! NAFAR isnt just an acronym...live it. What you did was a gesture of support not my call on if it was foolish or not I wanted you to think about it before you decided to fall on your sword. ET has taken from this site and from his post count hasnt given much back. Maybe my wording wasnt the best but w two caves your focus should be on you. There is nothing wrong (in my book I am sure I will be corrected if I am wrong) with being the most selfish bastard on earth in the beginning protecting your quit. I stayed home and away from anything that would risk my quit. I cut back on brew and when I did have brew the vets would remind me to keep it in moderation and have a safety plan. Thats how this site works we watch out for eachother we do what we can to help people stay quit. I didnt know all this about quit when I got here I have learned it and what I havent learned I have been taught.
calling a moderator's or other quitter's integrity and character into to question is not a smart play
I take offense to both of you if that is your stance
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I accept the 'Finger' you gave me. And it's ok.... I'm a big enough man to stand by my statements I made to you. I don't agree with your outlook here and the things you say. It's simple. I'm not a keyboard gangster. I voice my opinion just like you are free to do. But we are both responsible for what we say and suffer the opinions of others here. I think you need to grow up. Does that get me another 'Finger' ? It's fine if it does!
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Minny, I quit with you today. I glanced at all the bullshit on here over the last few days, and well, I encourage you to forget about it all and focus on today. Be quit today, forget all the philosophy, forget about your expectations about quitting, dont think about ducking hunting yet or what you will or wont smoke. Just quit for today. These threads can get a little nasty and heated, but the program is solid. Take what you need and leave the rest. If you need to talk with anyone dont hesitate to call me up, jump in chat, whatever. Just dont use today, wake up tomorrow and make the promise again.
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I had my first smoke when I was 13, my first chew the next day, and I never looked back.
I quit for the hundredth time on May 10th, but have cheated on my quit a few times. I tell myself that it's okay because it's "only a Bandit" and that I've earned it. The ridiculous thing is that I know what a lie that is. I've been chewing for twenty years. I can't believe that's true.
I've literally thrown away dozens of full tins, brand spanking new minus one chew. My brain tricks me into rationalizing "just one chew" or "just one more tin" and the guilt/regret sets in as soon as the urge is satisfied.
The ridiculous thing is that me and my family avoid so many things (foods, detergents, artificial sweetener, fertilizer, etc.) that are known carcinogens, but here I am chewing my face off.
I hypocritically nag on my mother to quit smoking.
My biggest thing, as ridiculous as it sounds, is that I don't want to give up chew on my annual duck hunt with my pals. 5am, duck blind, coffee, load the gun, put in a fat chew: that's heaven. The problem is, I've tried that before and failed. As soon as the trip is over, I finish off the remainder of the tin or trick myself that I am weaning off (again) and that one more tin won't hurt. Next thing you know, another year has past and I go INTO the annual duck hunt a total addict.
I even imposed a rule that I would only chew if I was hunting. Well, wouldn't you know it: I started hunting a lot more often.
Anyway, technically I'm on day 3 and I feel like shit. Last night I had a dream that I was buying a tin. I feel hungover.
I'm quitting because it's not worth it, because my wife hates it, because I'm sick of being moody, because I love my daughter, because I don't want to be a hypocrite, because I know better, because I don't want to lose a part of my face, because I like my teeth, and because I don't like the idea of being an addict. Which I am.
I'm not going to lie, though. I love chew. I still doubt my ability or willingness to not chew in the duck blind, one week a year.
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Hey minny, after I hit send on my last comment this post popped up. Wow, I feel like I could have written this myself. I also pitched 100s on tins with only 1 dipped used from them.
You need this site man, you need this quit. Dont let petty squabble ruin your chances. Nic bitch will use anything she can to get a foothold.
Take what you need, leave the rest. You got this.
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Not sure where you get off questioning a mods or anyone else's quit. That's a Dick move. You caved and admitted it, twice. Goody two shoes for YOU. Doesnt mean others ate caving and not saying so. That's the logic of an addict who thinks just because they have particular struggles and failures, everyone else has too.
I can tell you with 100% certainty that for the past 402 I have not used nicotine in any form. It was VERY VERY VERY difficult at times, and for anyone to even roundabout question that FACT pissed me the fuck off.
Take what you need and leave the rest.
You think this place has some kind of hierarchy and there are fake tough guys tooling around here blaring def leopard in their jacked up El Caminos, that's your business. Tell yourself whatever you like.
I can tell you I'm a 39 yeard old married father of a 10 yr old son and 8 yr old daughter. I can read AND comprehend, and I really don't like drama. I just call bullshit when I see it.
I don't "get off" on acting tough on here because I'm not tough. Im a pussy. I left this site for awhile I was so scared of it. Not once did I cave though.
I only get worked up when people lie, trash the principles of this site, or question my or others quits. Outside of those things I'm a teddy bear.
You questioned the quits of others. Either be specific with who you question and why or just kindly shut the fuck up and try to keep nicotine out of your big fucking mouth. You caved twice already but say you are clean now. I believe you. End of story. If you come on here and lie about being quit then you're pretty fucked up in the head and probably have bigger problems.
And quit being such a cyber pussy. My God.
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Minny, I quit with you today. I glanced at all the bullshit on here over the last few days, and well, I encourage you to forget about it all and focus on today. Be quit today, forget all the philosophy, forget about your expectations about quitting, dont think about ducking hunting yet or what you will or wont smoke. Just quit for today. These threads can get a little nasty and heated, but the program is solid. Take what you need and leave the rest. If you need to talk with anyone dont hesitate to call me up, jump in chat, whatever. Just dont use today, wake up tomorrow and make the promise again.
Real truth here! Stuff was typed, quitters with best intentions responded in the best way they could think of to help keep you quit the KTC way, and then it went sideways. So forget about the drama and Quit on! I QLF with you today too.
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It was very tempting to cut myself some slack and keep rollin'...
Dougie, B-lo Matt, CBird, jrizzle, derk40, duathman, mkez, srans, jungleland, and billybil, and everyone else that is quittin' like a badass: I'm sorry.
This sucks to write because I know that this is a no nicoitine, no nonsense site. I had some nicotine on July 10th, and again on July 12th. I am now fully deserving of the GTFO requests and i will oblige.
I'm not going to just disappear without explanation.
July 10th:What happened? I was at a overnight work event in Chicago and it's always a huge party. The beer was flowing and my former "smoking buddy" kept trying to get me to have a heater. He put a cigarette in front and a lighter in front of my face. I lit it up and took a couple of drags. He was flappin his gums but all I was thinking about was my quit. The cigarette snuffed itself out when it was still nearly whole, sitting between my fingers at my side.
Why did it happen? I don't know. All I wanted that night was a f'ing smoke. Not a chew, but a smoke. It was being pushed on me again and again and again and I finally took a couple of drags.
What are you going to do different this time? I don't know. I'm really surprised that I had a couple of drags. i've been posting roll and contributing and owning this quit. I'm horribly disappointed in my weakness.
July 12th: What Happened? I've been burning the candle at both ends and last Friday night was a great example. Long story short a couple of my college buddies came over for a cookout and some beers. They're both smokers. Having already caved on the 10th I was quick to cave again and bummed a few drags.
Why did it happen? i had a caver's mentality: "I caved on Wednesday night, fuck it."
What are you going to do differnt this time? See above.
What happens now? I don't know, but we'll find out. I considered rejoining under a different user name (Minny wasn't exactly a cool name anyway) and starting from scratch, but that's not my style. I'm a candid an honest person and just want to be quit.
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It was very tempting to cut myself some slack and keep rollin'...
Dougie, B-lo Matt, CBird, jrizzle, derk40, duathman, mkez, srans, jungleland, and billybil, and everyone else that is quittin' like a badass: I'm sorry.
This sucks to write because I know that this is a no nicoitine, no nonsense site. I had some nicotine on July 10th, and again on July 12th. I am now fully deserving of the GTFO requests and i will oblige.
I'm not going to just disappear without explanation.
July 10th:What happened? I was at a overnight work event in Chicago and it's always a huge party. The beer was flowing and my former "smoking buddy" kept trying to get me to have a heater. He put a cigarette in front and a lighter in front of my face. I lit it up and took a couple of drags. He was flappin his gums but all I was thinking about was my quit. The cigarette snuffed itself out when it was still nearly whole, sitting between my fingers at my side.
Why did it happen? I don't know. All I wanted that night was a f'ing smoke. Not a chew, but a smoke. It was being pushed on me again and again and again and I finally took a couple of drags.
What are you going to do different this time? I don't know. I'm really surprised that I had a couple of drags. i've been posting roll and contributing and owning this quit. I'm horribly disappointed in my weakness.
July 12th: What Happened? I've been burning the candle at both ends and last Friday night was a great example. Long story short a couple of my college buddies came over for a cookout and some beers. They're both smokers. Having already caved on the 10th I was quick to cave again and bummed a few drags.
Why did it happen? i had a caver's mentality: "I caved on Wednesday night, fuck it."
What are you going to do differnt this time? See above.
What happens now? I don't know, but we'll find out. I considered rejoining under a different user name (Minny wasn't exactly a cool name anyway) and starting from scratch, but that's not my style. I'm a candid an honest person and just want to be quit.
Well, you messed up, and you get to own it. It is against site rules to open a new account so you must stay with this one.
I am merging your intros because you only get one.
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It was very tempting to cut myself some slack and keep rollin'...
Dougie, B-lo Matt, CBird, jrizzle, derk40, duathman, mkez, srans, jungleland, and billybil, and everyone else that is quittin' like a badass:Â I'm sorry.
This sucks to write because I know that this is a no nicoitine, no nonsense site. I had some nicotine on July 10th, and again on July 12th. I am now fully deserving of the GTFO requests and i will oblige.
I'm not going to just disappear without explanation.
July 10th:What happened? I was at a overnight work event in Chicago and it's always a huge party. The beer was flowing and my former "smoking buddy" kept trying to get me to have a heater. He put a cigarette in front and a lighter in front of my face. I lit it up and took a couple of drags. He was flappin his gums but all I was thinking about was my quit. The cigarette snuffed itself out when it was still nearly whole, sitting between my fingers at my side.
Why did it happen? I don't know. All I wanted that night was a f'ing smoke. Not a chew, but a smoke. It was being pushed on me again and again and again and I finally took a couple of drags.
What are you going to do different this time? I don't know. I'm really surprised that I had a couple of drags. i've been posting roll and contributing and owning this quit. I'm horribly disappointed in my weakness.
July 12th: What Happened? I've been burning the candle at both ends and last Friday night was a great example. Long story short a couple of my college buddies came over for a cookout and some beers. They're both smokers. Having already caved on the 10th I was quick to cave again and bummed a few drags.
Why did it happen? i had a caver's mentality: "I caved on Wednesday night, fuck it."
What are you going to do differnt this time? See above.
What happens now? I don't know, but we'll find out. I considered rejoining under a different user name (Minny wasn't exactly a cool name anyway) and starting from scratch, but that's not my style. I'm a candid an honest person and just want to be quit.
Well, you messed up, and you get to own it. It is against site rules to open a new account so you must stay with this one.
I am merging your intros because you only get one.
Well doesn't that just suck ass. Another caver. WTF is it with you guys.
I am very disappointed, but not very surprised. You developed a shitty attitude right about the time you started reading Enraged Thor's weak ass shit. In fact it seems to me that you planned this cave all along. I recall you day dreaming about having some cigars with your father in law or some shit over about a week or 2 ago.
Well here is the deal Minny. Maybe you just aren't ready to quit. That's fine, it doesnt make you a bad guy, it just makes you a pussy. It takes a real bad ass to get free of this shit, not everyone has it in them. Maybe you should wait until you are spitting teeth out like Thor, or wait better yet, wait until you have your tongue-ectomy or chemotherapy scheduled. Maybe that will be a better time to quit. Maybe you will be ready then?
I suggest you man up and go post a day one rather than finger banging the can for another 6 months, or 6 years, or whatever it might turn into. But wait, if your not ready than dont bother, just take your own advice and GTFO. There are quitters on here that want and need the help. Dont waste our time, get your damn head on straight.
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It was very tempting to cut myself some slack and keep rollin'...
Dougie, B-lo Matt, CBird, jrizzle, derk40, duathman, mkez, srans, jungleland, and billybil, and everyone else that is quittin' like a badass:Â I'm sorry.
This sucks to write because I know that this is a no nicoitine, no nonsense site. I had some nicotine on July 10th, and again on July 12th. I am now fully deserving of the GTFO requests and i will oblige.
I'm not going to just disappear without explanation.
July 10th:What happened? I was at a overnight work event in Chicago and it's always a huge party. The beer was flowing and my former "smoking buddy" kept trying to get me to have a heater. He put a cigarette in front and a lighter in front of my face. I lit it up and took a couple of drags. He was flappin his gums but all I was thinking about was my quit. The cigarette snuffed itself out when it was still nearly whole, sitting between my fingers at my side.
Why did it happen? I don't know. All I wanted that night was a f'ing smoke. Not a chew, but a smoke. It was being pushed on me again and again and again and I finally took a couple of drags.
What are you going to do different this time? I don't know. I'm really surprised that I had a couple of drags. i've been posting roll and contributing and owning this quit. I'm horribly disappointed in my weakness.
July 12th: What Happened? I've been burning the candle at both ends and last Friday night was a great example. Long story short a couple of my college buddies came over for a cookout and some beers. They're both smokers. Having already caved on the 10th I was quick to cave again and bummed a few drags.
Why did it happen? i had a caver's mentality: "I caved on Wednesday night, fuck it."
What are you going to do differnt this time? See above.
What happens now? I don't know, but we'll find out. I considered rejoining under a different user name (Minny wasn't exactly a cool name anyway) and starting from scratch, but that's not my style. I'm a candid an honest person and just want to be quit.
Well, you messed up, and you get to own it. It is against site rules to open a new account so you must stay with this one.
I am merging your intros because you only get one.
Well doesn't that just suck ass. Another caver. WTF is it with you guys.
I am very disappointed, but not very surprised. You developed a shitty attitude right about the time you started reading Enraged Thor's weak ass shit. In fact it seems to me that you planned this cave all along. I recall you day dreaming about having some cigars with your father in law or some shit over about a week or 2 ago.
Well here is the deal Minny. Maybe you just aren't ready to quit. That's fine, it doesnt make you a bad guy, it just makes you a pussy. It takes a real bad ass to get free of this shit, not everyone has it in them. Maybe you should wait until you are spitting teeth out like Thor, or wait better yet, wait until you have your tongue-ectomy or chemotherapy scheduled. Maybe that will be a better time to quit. Maybe you will be ready then?
I suggest you man up and go post a day one rather than finger banging the can for another 6 months, or 6 years, or whatever it might turn into. But wait, if your not ready than dont bother, just take your own advice and GTFO. There are quitters on here that want and need the help. Dont waste our time, get your damn head on straight.
Ryan - thank you.
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It was very tempting to cut myself some slack and keep rollin'...
Dougie, B-lo Matt, CBird, jrizzle, derk40, duathman, mkez, srans, jungleland, and billybil, and everyone else that is quittin' like a badass:Â I'm sorry.
This sucks to write because I know that this is a no nicoitine, no nonsense site. I had some nicotine on July 10th, and again on July 12th. I am now fully deserving of the GTFO requests and i will oblige.
I'm not going to just disappear without explanation.
July 10th:What happened? I was at a overnight work event in Chicago and it's always a huge party. The beer was flowing and my former "smoking buddy" kept trying to get me to have a heater. He put a cigarette in front and a lighter in front of my face. I lit it up and took a couple of drags. He was flappin his gums but all I was thinking about was my quit. The cigarette snuffed itself out when it was still nearly whole, sitting between my fingers at my side.
Why did it happen? I don't know. All I wanted that night was a f'ing smoke. Not a chew, but a smoke. It was being pushed on me again and again and again and I finally took a couple of drags.
What are you going to do different this time? I don't know. I'm really surprised that I had a couple of drags. i've been posting roll and contributing and owning this quit. I'm horribly disappointed in my weakness.
July 12th: What Happened? I've been burning the candle at both ends and last Friday night was a great example. Long story short a couple of my college buddies came over for a cookout and some beers. They're both smokers. Having already caved on the 10th I was quick to cave again and bummed a few drags.
Why did it happen? i had a caver's mentality: "I caved on Wednesday night, fuck it."
What are you going to do differnt this time? See above.
What happens now? I don't know, but we'll find out. I considered rejoining under a different user name (Minny wasn't exactly a cool name anyway) and starting from scratch, but that's not my style. I'm a candid an honest person and just want to be quit.
Well, you messed up, and you get to own it. It is against site rules to open a new account so you must stay with this one.
I am merging your intros because you only get one.
Well doesn't that just suck ass. Another caver. WTF is it with you guys.
I am very disappointed, but not very surprised. You developed a shitty attitude right about the time you started reading Enraged Thor's weak ass shit. In fact it seems to me that you planned this cave all along. I recall you day dreaming about having some cigars with your father in law or some shit over about a week or 2 ago.
Well here is the deal Minny. Maybe you just aren't ready to quit. That's fine, it doesnt make you a bad guy, it just makes you a pussy. It takes a real bad ass to get free of this shit, not everyone has it in them. Maybe you should wait until you are spitting teeth out like Thor, or wait better yet, wait until you have your tongue-ectomy or chemotherapy scheduled. Maybe that will be a better time to quit. Maybe you will be ready then?
I suggest you man up and go post a day one rather than finger banging the can for another 6 months, or 6 years, or whatever it might turn into. But wait, if your not ready than dont bother, just take your own advice and GTFO. There are quitters on here that want and need the help. Dont waste our time, get your damn head on straight.
Ryan - thank you.
First I'm going to say that you do NOT need to leave! Second.... how was that occasional smoke working for you? Your back here so clearly it made you feel like shit. As a previous caver I will never tell you that you should not be here. BUT you have to put in the work. Clearly your way does NOT work. Get with the program, let your balls drop and own this quit. Your life is more valuable then a smoke. Man up and drink the koolaid! :ph43r:
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Go play with dolls.
I knew your ass was weak when you were pipping up for ET and having wet dreams about cigars .
GTFO...that's up to you, nobody here can make you leave. You've already proven to be a bitch and starting over under a new name is the weakest shit I ever heard.
Wouldn't be surprised if you dick tucked and hit the road to meet up with your true love and started butt fucking nicotine full time again.
Damn shame.
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OK I was being nice earlier because everyone says I'm like a mini Diesel! But now I gotta lay into you! What the fuck you piece of shit! Are you fucking retarded or are you just a bitch? We have few rules here! You wanted to make a second screen name but did not because you are an honest person? Bullshit! You are a scumbag liar! You posted with September that you are 24. days quit! You are not honest! You posted roll after using! FUCK! I have no support for you today! You are shitting all over this site and what we stand for! Fuck you and your word! Being nice is overrated!
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Go play with dolls.
I knew your ass was weak when you were pipping up for ET and having wet dreams about cigars .
GTFO...that's up to you, nobody here can make you leave. You've already proven to be a bitch and starting over under a new name is the weakest shit I ever heard.
Wouldn't be surprised if you dick tucked and hit the road to meet up with your true love and started butt fucking nicotine full time again.
Damn shame.
Damn. Cavers beware. You dont want diesel ripping you a new one.
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OK I was being nice earlier because everyone says I'm like a mini Diesel! But now I gotta lay into you! What the fuck you piece of shit! Are you fucking retarded or are you just a bitch? We have few rules here! You wanted to make a second screen name but did not because you are an honest person? Bullshit! You are a scumbag liar! You posted with September that you are 24. days quit! You are not honest! You posted roll after using! FUCK! I have no support for you today! You are shitting all over this site and what we stand for! Fuck you and your word! Being nice is overrated!
And you posted roll each day you were using you piece of shit! No honor!
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OK I was being nice earlier because everyone says I'm like a mini Diesel! But now I gotta lay into you! What the fuck you piece of shit! Are you fucking retarded or are you just a bitch? We have few rules here! You wanted to make a second screen name but did not because you are an honest person? Bullshit! You are a scumbag liar! You posted with September that you are 24. days quit! You are not honest! You posted roll after using! FUCK! I have no support for you today! You are shitting all over this site and what we stand for! Fuck you and your word! Being nice is overrated!
And you posted roll each day you were using you piece of shit! No honor!
Wow. That's jacked up. Our word is all we have.
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OK I was being nice earlier because everyone says I'm like a mini Diesel! But now I gotta lay into you! What the fuck you piece of shit! Are you fucking retarded or are you just a bitch? We have few rules here! You wanted to make a second screen name but did not because you are an honest person? Bullshit! You are a scumbag liar! You posted with September that you are 24. days quit! You are not honest! You posted roll after using! FUCK! I have no support for you today! You are shitting all over this site and what we stand for! Fuck you and your word! Being nice is overrated!
And you posted roll each day you were using you piece of shit! No honor!
Wow. That's jacked up. Our word is all we have.
Cavers are bad enough but at least have the integrity to admit to being a bitch and walk away! I have zero patience for assholes who disrespect the house by posting role while using!
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OK I was being nice earlier because everyone says I'm like a mini Diesel! But now I gotta lay into you! What the fuck you piece of shit! Are you fucking retarded or are you just a bitch? We have few rules here! You wanted to make a second screen name but did not because you are an honest person? Bullshit! You are a scumbag liar! You posted with September that you are 24. days quit! You are not honest! You posted roll after using! FUCK! I have no support for you today! You are shitting all over this site and what we stand for! Fuck you and your word! Being nice is overrated!
And you posted roll each day you were using you piece of shit! No honor!
Wow. That's jacked up. Our word is all we have.
Cavers are bad enough but at least have the integrity to admit to being a bitch and walk away! I have zero patience for assholes who disrespect the house by posting role while using!
Disappointed that you thought u could cut yourself some slack and keep rolling. That does not make sense to me. No sense of accomplishment in holding your word? That is what is driving me right now. In the end, you got to look yourself in the mirror and know you manned up and beat back this addiction. There is no slack here. You're either quit or you are not. However, I am glad you finally fessed up Minny and admitted your cave. Better late than never.
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OK I was being nice earlier because everyone says I'm like a mini Diesel! But now I gotta lay into you! What the fuck you piece of shit! Are you fucking retarded or are you just a bitch? We have few rules here! You wanted to make a second screen name but did not because you are an honest person? Bullshit! You are a scumbag liar! You posted with September that you are 24. days quit! You are not honest! You posted roll after using! FUCK! I have no support for you today! You are shitting all over this site and what we stand for! Fuck you and your word! Being nice is overrated!
And you posted roll each day you were using you piece of shit! No honor!
Wow. That's jacked up. Our word is all we have.
Cavers are bad enough but at least have the integrity to admit to being a bitch and walk away! I have zero patience for assholes who disrespect the house by posting role while using!
Awww hell no. Minnie wtf? I take pride in posting. Knowing the other septs are fighting the same fight as they post alongside. How could you spit on that ... out of cowardice? A cave can be dealt with. The lying....... I don't even know. This is just sad
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OK I was being nice earlier because everyone says I'm like a mini Diesel! But now I gotta lay into you! What the fuck you piece of shit! Are you fucking retarded or are you just a bitch? We have few rules here! You wanted to make a second screen name but did not because you are an honest person? Bullshit! You are a scumbag liar! You posted with September that you are 24. days quit! You are not honest! You posted roll after using! FUCK! I have no support for you today! You are shitting all over this site and what we stand for! Fuck you and your word! Being nice is overrated!
And you posted roll each day you were using you piece of shit! No honor!
Wow. That's jacked up. Our word is all we have.
Cavers are bad enough but at least have the integrity to admit to being a bitch and walk away! I have zero patience for assholes who disrespect the house by posting role while using!
Awww hell no. Minnie wtf? I take pride in posting. Knowing the other septs are fighting the same fight as they post alongside. How could you spit on that ... out of cowardice? A cave can be dealt with. The lying....... I don't even know. This is just sad
Why post roll if you are using? You are just lying to yourself. And also Minny pretty much announced his cave in one of Enraged Douche bags threads as Jake already pointed out. Both clowns and both should take a fucking hike.
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What are you going to do differnt this time? See above.
I didn't see anything that addressed what you are going to do different-
I dont see anything that even hints at you wanting to be Quit- figure it out.
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nothing to add here spotted it coming when you were falling on your sword for ET... you didnt heed the warning I sent you. I will say this its tough reaching out to fucksticks on this site and have them crash and burn...takes alot out of person takes alot out of the bros/sis here that try supporting you to let your dead wieght fall on them.
Your posts are full of addict speak n like Ryan said maybe you need to think about your quit while you are spitting out teeth.
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Minn
1 you are no longer in Sept based on your last cave - you frickin need to go back to square one and examine your decision to quit and post your sorry ass in Oct
2 this site isn't going to tolerate you repeated caving and lying - exactly how to do you expect us to trust you?
3 you'd better learn how to use the tools of this site and honor the accountability and integrity which you blatantly and falsely called into question last week
4 Feeling weak- like you can't quit? Print this out contract to cave (http://www.killthecan.org/facts/contract.asp) and tell everyone you love the can means more to you than they do.
5 or GTFO this site
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You might want to ask yourself if you can really call these guys your friends...you gotta look at it like this would you hang out with someone that point a gun in your face. It might go off it might not...
Way to deal with a person who is pushing it on your take your right boot and slam it squarely in the ballsack...
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Where's the explanation and roll post in October?
'impatient'
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Where's the explanation and roll post in October?
'impatient'
No further explanation needed or wanted. Go to lite. They coddle and encourage you to "keep on trying."
You posted roll the day you caved. Thats bad. Forgiveable, not forgettable bad. Then, you added a +1 and posted again. and again. then caved again. That is not forgiveable. You have 0 integrity, less than 0 pride, and no balls to boot. Hell man, you cant even be honest over the internet to a bunch of faceless folks. My guess is you lie to yourself every damn day as well.
You are not ready to quit, do not have what it takes to quit, and do not deserve to be part of the brotherhood here. Everyone now can clearly see what and who you are. I wish you luck in combating your addiction (you will need a lot of luck since you are missing everything else it takes) to nicotine. Maybe someday you will be able to reach down and feel a slight lump between your legs where you need balls, and maybe just maybe you will be able to at least be honest with your self.
Until then, go to lite. posting roll while using nicotine is NOT acceptable. Why we roll.... (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=120) Mission Statement (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=125) This too. (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=1360)
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Damn man, everyone here saw your intro and knew you needed help. Lots of us tried the tough love wake-up call for you, but you got caught up in the drama and lost the message. While I am glad you were honest about your caves I am also disapointed. If you cannot handle being around buddies who are nic using slaves and resent your quit so much that they will pressure you to use, then maybe you should avoid those situations. If you must be around them, then do not drink alcohol! Do you really want to be free from tobacco? You are going to have to protect your quit above everything else for a while. Lastly, since your way is not working out so good for you, maybe you should lose the attitude and start drinking the kool-aid. Promise not to use nicotine, keep your word, avoid getting drunk for a while, avoid situations that you think you will cave in, get the contract to quit and read it b4 you cave, get contacts here and use them b4 you cave (PM me if you need a number)... This is the hardest thing I have ever done, but it can be done. You needto want it bad enough though. All the tools KTC has to offer won't help if you want to be a user. If that is the case, then yes GTFO and stop wasting our time.
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Step 1) Admit you're an addict.
Step 2) Admit that because you are an addict you can never again have "just one", or a simple little bandit, or a cigar, or a SNUS, or a plug supository if you are in the mood. You can't handle any nic. Period. Never again. Not for any reason.
When you fully accept and believe steps 1 and 2, then you can begin healing (quitting).
The last line above still holds true. You are not ready. This place is sacred to those that are quitting, and you did the unthinkable. There are other sites that will tell you it's ok to quit a thousand times and will hold your balls. I think some of those sites don't care if you dip will posting/lying about being quit. Go join them, please.
There is nothing for you here at KTC.
Try UCANQUIT2 (http://www.ucanquit2.org/?utm_source=Google&utm_medium=CPC&utm_campaign=2013%2BDoD%2BQuit%2BTobacco&gclid=CL6ik77strgCFcNcMgody1AAXg)
or Quit Smokeless (http://forum.qssn.org/)
or VolNation (http://www.volnation.com/forum/endzone/65083-smokeless-tobacco-forum.html)
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Step 1) Admit you're an addict.
Step 2) Admit that because you are an addict you can never again have "just one", or a simple little bandit, or a cigar, or a SNUS, or a plug supository if you are in the mood. You can't handle any nic. Period. Never again. Not for any reason.
When you fully accept and believe steps 1 and 2, then you can begin healing (quitting).
The last line above still holds true. You are not ready. This place is sacred to those that are quitting, and you did the unthinkable. There are other sites that will tell you it's ok to quit a thousand times and will hold your balls. I think some of those sites don't care if you dip will posting/lying about being quit. Go join them, please.
There is nothing for you here at KTC.
Try UCANQUIT2 (http://www.ucanquit2.org/?utm_source=Google&utm_medium=CPC&utm_campaign=2013%2BDoD%2BQuit%2BTobacco&gclid=CL6ik77strgCFcNcMgody1AAXg)
or Quit Smokeless (http://forum.qssn.org/)
or VolNation (http://www.volnation.com/forum/endzone/65083-smokeless-tobacco-forum.html)
VolNation.. that's a new one. Look like s bunch of fucking winners over there. Winners as in jagoffs.
Can't hack it here, go be a "winner" over there, sizzle chest.
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No post in October yet! I see you posted in September.... Not your group anymore! Might want to post your explanation in both groups and move on to October! Hope you don't contaminate that group of Honorable men!
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hay man you guys no that smokey guy rites some good stuff in his intro rite? so man i found this jem in my quit groop and i thot id share it. speshully for the cavetards out there.
I love to see myself talk, so here's a bump for you guys who weren't spending your Friday nights on the computer....
I wanted to put my serious two cents in on the topic of helping cavers and what it means to others when a brother/sister decideds to cave. Reading Builderchad's post in November and reflecting on the past got me to thinking more about this issue.
Cavers don't just cave. They make the conscious decision to cave. There is no nic bitch whispering in their ear, holding their family hostage, fucking them up the ass, whatever other metaphors you can come up with. Cavers always have a choice. They may decide to pull into a local convenience store because they know they have a special two for one special on Copenhagen. They may purchase the two for one special of Copenhagen. They may open a can with that one fingernail they purposefully didn't trim that morning. All bad decisions. But they aren't yet cavers. A caver makes the conscious decision to actually put the chew in their mouth. To light the cigarette and take a drag. They're not thinking about accountability at that moment; they're rationalizing their actions. "This will make the stress go away." "It's either full fledge alcoholism or this chew." "I can quit again after this one dip/can/log/life."
Most of you don't know Builderchad. He was a fucking nutball August quitter. An amazing quitter who got more people invested in this site than anyone else I know. That's not to put any dedicated vets down, that's just saying Builderchad was pantysniffing insane. His cave crushed me. Scared me. Demoralized me. Fucking pissed me off to no ends. I let him know it as did many others who had put their faith in him. He stayed away for a long time. Skunkdouche hasn't come back. Funny thing is, look at my member number and joined date. Now look at my last roll call post below. Doesn't quite match up, eh?
I had signed up for a KTC account but had never posted roll during my first "quit" attempt. I saw the animosity in here and decided this wasn't for me. What a bunch of internet dorks, I thought. This shit is a joke. Instead of joining a quit group and posting roll, I signed up for a anti-smoking class through a local hospital. I was the only chewer in the class, the only chewer my instructor (20 years experience) had ever had in class. We all had the same quit day - two weeks after the first day of class. Only 6 out of 10 people were able to stay quit 48 hours. When the other people explained why they couldn't make it, there was no anger. No "you fucked me over". It was a very open and accepting environment of failure. The class ended and we all went our own ways. I caved after about 3 months (I'll share that story some other time) and continued chewing for about 8 months after that. I was chewing more and in more risky/stupid situations. I chewed while teaching class (that's some extreme ninja shit, but I'm pretty sure some kids knew, but the teacher/student power relationship kept their teenage mouths shut). Fuck.
I'm rambling. I don't really know what I'm trying to say. I guess my feeling is, if you make the choice to cave, you're not just hurting yourself. You know that. If you make the choice to cave, you are committing an atrocious act against yourself and the people on this site who care about you. Why do they care about you - a fucking clever nickname and booby avatar? They care about you because they care about themselves. Everyone on this site is selfish to some extent. We're all doing this for ourselves. I'm writing this for myself. If someone reads this extraordinarily long post and buys a can of fuckenshitten and cuts the seal and still decides to throw the fuckenshitten away at the last second, that's fucking great. If they write a post on this board thanking me for that, that's fucking amazing for me. If they don't write a post on this board, I'm still going to imagine that this scenario is happening over and over again. I'm a fucking hero.
Now, how will I feel if I cave? What have you done? How will you feel if you cave?
Syndrome's intro thread would be a good place for you go if you want to learn how to QLF.
I am going to head over to Smokeyg's thread now and read his quit.
This is how I QLF. I learn from the guys that are doing it. I am not a snowflake and I drink the koolaide every day all day.
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INTEGRITY (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrity)
Character (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_character)
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hay man you guys no that smokey guy rites some good stuff in his intro rite? so man i found this jem in my quit groop and i thot id share it. speshully for the cavetards out there.I love to see myself talk, so here's a bump for you guys who weren't spending your Friday nights on the computer....
I wanted to put my serious two cents in on the topic of helping cavers and what it means to others when a brother/sister decideds to cave. Reading Builderchad's post in November and reflecting on the past got me to thinking more about this issue.
Cavers don't just cave. They make the conscious decision to cave. There is no nic bitch whispering in their ear, holding their family hostage, fucking them up the ass, whatever other metaphors you can come up with. Cavers always have a choice. They may decide to pull into a local convenience store because they know they have a special two for one special on Copenhagen. They may purchase the two for one special of Copenhagen. They may open a can with that one fingernail they purposefully didn't trim that morning. All bad decisions. But they aren't yet cavers. A caver makes the conscious decision to actually put the chew in their mouth. To light the cigarette and take a drag. They're not thinking about accountability at that moment; they're rationalizing their actions. "This will make the stress go away." "It's either full fledge alcoholism or this chew." "I can quit again after this one dip/can/log/life."
Most of you don't know Builderchad. He was a fucking nutball August quitter. An amazing quitter who got more people invested in this site than anyone else I know. That's not to put any dedicated vets down, that's just saying Builderchad was pantysniffing insane. His cave crushed me. Scared me. Demoralized me. Fucking pissed me off to no ends. I let him know it as did many others who had put their faith in him. He stayed away for a long time. Skunkdouche hasn't come back. Funny thing is, look at my member number and joined date. Now look at my last roll call post below. Doesn't quite match up, eh?
I had signed up for a KTC account but had never posted roll during my first "quit" attempt. I saw the animosity in here and decided this wasn't for me. What a bunch of internet dorks, I thought. This shit is a joke. Instead of joining a quit group and posting roll, I signed up for a anti-smoking class through a local hospital. I was the only chewer in the class, the only chewer my instructor (20 years experience) had ever had in class. We all had the same quit day - two weeks after the first day of class. Only 6 out of 10 people were able to stay quit 48 hours. When the other people explained why they couldn't make it, there was no anger. No "you fucked me over". It was a very open and accepting environment of failure. The class ended and we all went our own ways. I caved after about 3 months (I'll share that story some other time) and continued chewing for about 8 months after that. I was chewing more and in more risky/stupid situations. I chewed while teaching class (that's some extreme ninja shit, but I'm pretty sure some kids knew, but the teacher/student power relationship kept their teenage mouths shut). Fuck.
I'm rambling. I don't really know what I'm trying to say. I guess my feeling is, if you make the choice to cave, you're not just hurting yourself. You know that. If you make the choice to cave, you are committing an atrocious act against yourself and the people on this site who care about you. Why do they care about you - a fucking clever nickname and booby avatar? They care about you because they care about themselves. Everyone on this site is selfish to some extent. We're all doing this for ourselves. I'm writing this for myself. If someone reads this extraordinarily long post and buys a can of fuckenshitten and cuts the seal and still decides to throw the fuckenshitten away at the last second, that's fucking great. If they write a post on this board thanking me for that, that's fucking amazing for me. If they don't write a post on this board, I'm still going to imagine that this scenario is happening over and over again. I'm a fucking hero.
Now, how will I feel if I cave? What have you done? How will you feel if you cave?
Syndrome's intro thread would be a good place for you go if you want to learn how to QLF.
I am going to head over to Smokeyg's thread now and read his quit.
This is how I QLF. I learn from the guys that are doing it. I am not a snowflake and I drink the koolaide every day all day.
Good stuff, damn I'm glad to be back here and quit with all you bad ass mofo quitters. I watched guys from my original group cave and come back and I still made that choice Smokey is talking about. I won't make that choice again.
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Good move pulling your September post today, time to make a few more good moves.
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I'm going in to the lion's den this weekend. I will not use tobacco.
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I'm going in to the lion's den this weekend. I will not use tobacco.
Why are you going? Dammit your quit is more important than your fucking nuts. You can have sex with no nuts, missing a face? Good luck with that.
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In spite of my track record, I got this. I'm pissed off.
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In spite of my track record, I got this. I'm pissed off.
Guard your quit like your life depends on it. It probably does!
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In spite of my track record, I got this. I'm pissed off.
Guard your quit like your life depends on it. It probably does!
Ur past is ur past. Worry a out today. Good to see u getting ticked off here. You can beat this down. Stay quit!
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I'm going in to the lion's den this weekend. I will not use tobacco.
I guess we will see if you really do have any nuts. Or if you just tuck your shit and wear a skirt.
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It was very tempting to cut myself some slack and keep rollin'...
Dougie, B-lo Matt, CBird, jrizzle, derk40, duathman, mkez, srans, jungleland, and billybil, and everyone else that is quittin' like a badass:Â I'm sorry.
This sucks to write because I know that this is a no nicoitine, no nonsense site. I had some nicotine on July 10th, and again on July 12th. I am now fully deserving of the GTFO requests and i will oblige.
I'm not going to just disappear without explanation.
July 10th:What happened? I was at a overnight work event in Chicago and it's always a huge party. The beer was flowing and my former "smoking buddy" kept trying to get me to have a heater. He put a cigarette in front and a lighter in front of my face. I lit it up and took a couple of drags. He was flappin his gums but all I was thinking about was my quit. The cigarette snuffed itself out when it was still nearly whole, sitting between my fingers at my side.
Why did it happen? I don't know. All I wanted that night was a f'ing smoke. Not a chew, but a smoke. It was being pushed on me again and again and again and I finally took a couple of drags.
What are you going to do different this time? I don't know. I'm really surprised that I had a couple of drags. i've been posting roll and contributing and owning this quit. I'm horribly disappointed in my weakness.
July 12th: What Happened? I've been burning the candle at both ends and last Friday night was a great example. Long story short a couple of my college buddies came over for a cookout and some beers. They're both smokers. Having already caved on the 10th I was quick to cave again and bummed a few drags.
Why did it happen? i had a caver's mentality: "I caved on Wednesday night, fuck it."
What are you going to do differnt this time? See above.
What happens now? I don't know, but we'll find out. I considered rejoining under a different user name (Minny wasn't exactly a cool name anyway) and starting from scratch, but that's not my style. I'm a candid an honest person and just want to be quit.
Well, you messed up, and you get to own it. It is against site rules to open a new account so you must stay with this one.
I am merging your intros because you only get one.
Well doesn't that just suck ass. Another caver. WTF is it with you guys.
I am very disappointed, but not very surprised. You developed a shitty attitude right about the time you started reading Enraged Thor's weak ass shit. In fact it seems to me that you planned this cave all along. I recall you day dreaming about having some cigars with your father in law or some shit over about a week or 2 ago.
Well here is the deal Minny. Maybe you just aren't ready to quit. That's fine, it doesnt make you a bad guy, it just makes you a pussy. It takes a real bad ass to get free of this shit, not everyone has it in them. Maybe you should wait until you are spitting teeth out like Thor, or wait better yet, wait until you have your tongue-ectomy or chemotherapy scheduled. Maybe that will be a better time to quit. Maybe you will be ready then?
I suggest you man up and go post a day one rather than finger banging the can for another 6 months, or 6 years, or whatever it might turn into. But wait, if your not ready than dont bother, just take your own advice and GTFO. There are quitters on here that want and need the help. Dont waste our time, get your damn head on straight.
Alot has been said already Minny. Welcome back. Tell me again what you are giong to do different this time? I want to support you but I just need to know that you are serious and that you really want this. If you aren't and you really don't than I really dont want to bother.
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I just posted day 9. Last night was like the movie A Beautiful Mind: the caver inside me was in the corner trying desperately trying to get my attention and rationalizing why I should have some nic, why I deserved it, etc.
There is a work event w/ spouses coming up and a chewer I know said to me yesterday, "Don't talk about chew at all when you meet my wife". I told him I hadn't had a chew since June 22nd and he looked at me like I was insane. He chews a can a day, ninja style.
In other news, I slept on my arm and two fingers on my right hand have been numb for an hour. Usually it's the whole hand that goes numb (The Stranger! Haha). Odd...
Anyway, THIS first without nic (lion's den) is the best. I used to commit a weekend to this place consciously aware that it was my tobacco haven and that the primary reason for the trip was to F the nic bitch. She was my mistress!
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I just posted day 9. Last night was like the movie A Beautiful Mind: the caver inside me was in the corner trying desperately trying to get my attention and rationalizing why I should have some nic, why I deserved it, etc.
There is a work event w/ spouses coming up and a chewer I know said to me yesterday, "Don't talk about chew at all when you meet my wife". I told him I hadn't had a chew since June 22nd and he looked at me like I was insane. He chews a can a day, ninja style.
In other news, I slept on my arm and two fingers on my right hand have been numb for an hour. Usually it's the whole hand that goes numb (The Stranger! Haha). Odd...
Anyway, THIS first without nic (lion's den) is the best. I used to commit a weekend to this place consciously aware that it was my tobacco haven and that the primary reason for the trip was to F the nic bitch. She was my mistress!
Well have you modified your plan to have an exit to this event if she calls her slave home? Being that you appear to be very weak around the bitch, I would purposely mention that your are part of KTC and that it is a battle for you everyday and that you are quit for the day. That would alert the ninja friend/coworker you are not fucking around and to not for a moment include you in his plan of dipping antics.
A side note about ninja dipping unless your wifes nose has the olfactory nerves removed from it there is no way they don't know you are not dipping. They chose to pick their battles. If they don't see your mistress they don't have to address it.
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Step 1) Admit you're an addict.
Step 2) Admit that because you are an addict you can never again have "just one", or a simple little bandit, or a cigar, or a SNUS, or a plug supository if you are in the mood. You can't handle any nic. Period. Never again. Not for any reason.
When you fully accept and believe steps 1 and 2, then you can begin healing (quitting).
Bump for the little bitch.
Get your shit together or hit the fucking bricks Minny. We have no time for your wishy washy bullshit.
You've got 4 fucking total posts. FOUR. Fuck your half assed addict bullshit.
bump not being a dick I am just helping watching your quit til you can gain control of your own quit.
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I just posted day 9. Last night was like the movie A Beautiful Mind: the caver inside me was in the corner trying desperately trying to get my attention and rationalizing why I should have some nic, why I deserved it, etc.
Just gonna share my two cents....I just posted day 5. The little caver bitch inside me is hiding because my quit brothers and I have been kicking his ass all week, together, ODAAT. Talking to a fellow quitter works better than dipping cownorker.
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I told him I hadn't had a chew since June 22nd and he looked at me like I was insane. He chews a can a day, ninja style.
Why are you still telling people that you quit on the 22nd of June? You haven't earned that right. You are on day 9. Be proud of that. Who are you trying to impress? Your buddy? You?
Your cavalier attitude about the length of your quit does not recognize your previous cave and lies, which, if you dug deep and looked at the ugliness that caused them, would allow you to grow and this quit to be successful.
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I told him I hadn't had a chew since June 22nd and he looked at me like I was insane. He chews a can a day, ninja style.
Why are you still telling people that you quit on the 22nd of June? You haven't earned that right. You are on day 9. Be proud of that. Who are you trying to impress? Your buddy? You?
Your cavalier attitude about the length of your quit does not recognize your previous cave and lies, which, if you dug deep and looked at the ugliness that caused them, would allow you to grow and this quit to be successful.
Yo Minny.... I agree with Cali Slim. Not 100% sure what is going on here. In your PM to me the other night you waffled about your ability to uphold NAFAR... you said you needed to figure some things out and that is why you caved. Then you drop a post saying u were pissed off. That sounds good, then a vet asked you what are you going to do differently this time. I can't see where you responded. The only thing I see is this post where you say you had not dipped since June 22nd. Which is garbage because you caved.
So I ask - what is your deal? You lied, fessed up finally, could not figure out if this quit was something you could do, and now are making claims you have not dipped since June 22nd. What are you going to do differently? Based on your recent post - it seems like not much. You need to explain yourself.
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I told him I hadn't had a chew since June 22nd and he looked at me like I was insane. He chews a can a day, ninja style.
Why are you still telling people that you quit on the 22nd of June? You haven't earned that right. You are on day 9. Be proud of that. Who are you trying to impress? Your buddy? You?
Your cavalier attitude about the length of your quit does not recognize your previous cave and lies, which, if you dug deep and looked at the ugliness that caused them, would allow you to grow and this quit to be successful.
Yo Minny.... I agree with Cali Slim. Not 100% sure what is going on here. In your PM to me the other night you waffled about your ability to uphold NAFAR... you said you needed to figure some things out and that is why you caved. Then you drop a post saying u were pissed off. That sounds good, then a vet asked you what are you going to do differently this time. I can't see where you responded. The only thing I see is this post where you say you had not dipped since June 22nd. Which is garbage because you caved.
So I ask - what is your deal? You lied, fessed up finally, could not figure out if this quit was something you could do, and now are making claims you have not dipped since June 22nd. What are you going to do differently? Based on your recent post - it seems like not much. You need to explain yourself.
I haven't had a chew since June 22nd. My cave was puffs off cigarettes. Yes, that's a cave.
There's a lot missing from typed messages, including context and tone... Don't make giant leaps of assumption.
What does the 'P' stand for in PM, Derk?
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I told him I hadn't had a chew since June 22nd and he looked at me like I was insane. He chews a can a day, ninja style.
Why are you still telling people that you quit on the 22nd of June? You haven't earned that right. You are on day 9. Be proud of that. Who are you trying to impress? Your buddy? You?
Your cavalier attitude about the length of your quit does not recognize your previous cave and lies, which, if you dug deep and looked at the ugliness that caused them, would allow you to grow and this quit to be successful.
Yo Minny.... I agree with Cali Slim. Not 100% sure what is going on here. In your PM to me the other night you waffled about your ability to uphold NAFAR... you said you needed to figure some things out and that is why you caved. Then you drop a post saying u were pissed off. That sounds good, then a vet asked you what are you going to do differently this time. I can't see where you responded. The only thing I see is this post where you say you had not dipped since June 22nd. Which is garbage because you caved.
So I ask - what is your deal? You lied, fessed up finally, could not figure out if this quit was something you could do, and now are making claims you have not dipped since June 22nd. What are you going to do differently? Based on your recent post - it seems like not much. You need to explain yourself.
I haven't had a chew since June 22nd. My cave was puffs off cigarettes. Yes, that's a cave.
There's a lot missing from typed messages, including context and tone... Don't make giant leaps of assumption.
What does the 'P' stand for in PM, Derk?
Personal Message.
Ok, you did not dip since 22 June but you used nicotine. Is there really a difference with smoking and dipping? On this site - no. But I get what your saying.
So what are you going to do different this time bro? Are you ready to step up to the plate and do this thing NAFAR? Where is your head?
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There never ceases to be drama on this thread. You guys go after cavers like wolves on a carcass. I like it.
Minny, that carcass is going to dry up as long as you quit giving these guys reasons to jump your balls.
Keep rocking it one day at a time with me. We'll bury this pussy caver carcass and these wolves will go hungry.
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I like derk and slim and they have some valid points (most notably you need to answer the question about what you will do differently this time), but just worry about today. We quit every damn day. NAFAR is an epiphany about oneself as an addict and cannot nor need not be forced on anyone for them to be quit. Just quit for today, and tommorw post roll and do it again. Simple. If you come to the realization that your quit will always be fragile no matter how strong it becomes, then you will accept never again for any reason, but if you focus on the emormity of NAFAR befor you are ready it will overwhelm you. Just quit one day at a time. ODAAT and EDD are useful acronims too.
Oh, NAFAR can also be an epiphany that nicotine and U.S.Tobacco are evil and that you hate them so much you would rather punch yourself in the genetals over and over again befor you spend one more cent on super addictive poison that will make you a slave and kill you while lineing the coffers of a legalized drug cartel! Embrace the hate for the wrongs this garbage has done to us and QLF EDD!
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Are you quit today? That is the only thing that really matters! Tomorrow that is the same question that will matter! Work your quit today!
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There's lots of good stuff here and also in the PMs you've been sending. Many thanks.
I emerged from the Lion's Den unscathed and 100% nic free. My friend's brother was there altering between Marlboros and Grizzly, which was my M.O. for the cabin, too. He looked ridiculous and I'm glad that I wasn't joining in, for once. I realized that my buddy's cabin was not just somewhere I'd used tobacco heavily my whole life, rather tobacco use was the real reason behind going to the cabin in the first place. On one of the intro threads I was reading (Got2, I think) someone said that they found that they lost interest in a number of hobbies after they quit when they realized that said hobby was just an excuse to f the nic bitch. I don't know what hobbies I will drop (rifle season for deer probably) but I know that I will just choose to be with my family more often.
Here are some of the things I'm going to do differently:
-stay closer to KTC as I get into the teens, twenties, and way beyond. I was feelin' good after a couple of weeks and let my guard down.
-print out the contract to quit and keep it in my wallet.
-find some hate for US Tobacco. I got hooked as a young kid and this shit will kill me.
-keep the shame of caving very fresh in my memory.
-get my wife further involved in my quit.
Have I accepted NAFAR? Still no, and YES I understand that I have to get my head right. But, like b-lo said, don't worry about NAFAR just now. Just QLF ODAAT.
I will not use tobacco today.
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There's lots of good stuff here and also in the PMs you've been sending. Many thanks.
I emerged from the Lion's Den unscathed and 100% nic free. My friend's brother was there altering between Marlboros and Grizzly, which was my M.O. for the cabin, too. He looked ridiculous and I'm glad that I wasn't joining in, for once. I realized that my buddy's cabin was not just somewhere I'd used tobacco heavily my whole life, rather tobacco use was the real reason behind going to the cabin in the first place. On one of the intro threads I was reading (Got2, I think) someone said that they found that they lost interest in a number of hobbies after they quit when they realized that said hobby was just an excuse to f the nic bitch. I don't know what hobbies I will drop (rifle season for deer probably) but I know that I will just choose to be with my family more often.
Here are some of the things I'm going to do differently:
-stay closer to KTC as I get into the teens, twenties, and way beyond. I was feelin' good after a couple of weeks and let my guard down.
-print out the contract to quit and keep it in my wallet.
-find some hate for US Tobacco. I got hooked as a young kid and this shit will kill me.
-keep the shame of caving very fresh in my memory.
-get my wife further involved in my quit.
Have I accepted NAFAR? Still no, and YES I understand that I have to get my head right. But, like b-lo said, don't worry about NAFAR just now. Just QLF ODAAT.
I will not use tobacco today.
This will come in time the important part is that you are changing your mindset its slow for some fast for others....
like I told another brother here once that said his fone was dead and couldnt reach his contacts build a few contacts into Ms. Minnys fone. That is back up to the back up I know and may appear redundant but going through withdrawals over and over seem that way to me too. Just have Ms Minny fire that text out that you are about to use give her the power to help and I bet your quit gets strong in a hurry. Another back up plan to accountability...KTC cant watch you 24/7 but Ms. Minny can.
Good job staying quit
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There's lots of good stuff here and also in the PMs you've been sending. Many thanks.
I emerged from the Lion's Den unscathed and 100% nic free. My friend's brother was there altering between Marlboros and Grizzly, which was my M.O. for the cabin, too. He looked ridiculous and I'm glad that I wasn't joining in, for once. I realized that my buddy's cabin was not just somewhere I'd used tobacco heavily my whole life, rather tobacco use was the real reason behind going to the cabin in the first place. On one of the intro threads I was reading (Got2, I think) someone said that they found that they lost interest in a number of hobbies after they quit when they realized that said hobby was just an excuse to f the nic bitch. I don't know what hobbies I will drop (rifle season for deer probably) but I know that I will just choose to be with my family more often.
Here are some of the things I'm going to do differently:
-stay closer to KTC as I get into the teens, twenties, and way beyond. I was feelin' good after a couple of weeks and let my guard down.
-print out the contract to quit and keep it in my wallet.
-find some hate for US Tobacco. I got hooked as a young kid and this shit will kill me.
-keep the shame of caving very fresh in my memory.
-get my wife further involved in my quit.
Have I accepted NAFAR? Still no, and YES I understand that I have to get my head right. But, like b-lo said, don't worry about NAFAR just now. Just QLF ODAAT.
I will not use tobacco today.
This will come in time the important part is that you are changing your mindset its slow for some fast for others....
like I told another brother here once that said his fone was dead and couldnt reach his contacts build a few contacts into Ms. Minnys fone. That is back up to the back up I know and may appear redundant but going through withdrawals over and over seem that way to me too. Just have Ms Minny fire that text out that you are about to use give her the power to help and I bet your quit gets strong in a hurry. Another back up plan to accountability...KTC cant watch you 24/7 but Ms. Minny can.
Good job staying quit
I think we have ourselves a quitter here.
One day at a time Minny. You can do this.
As far as deer hunting goes, CONTACT ME, we need to talk. Start with a PM.
Ryan
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There's lots of good stuff here and also in the PMs you've been sending. Many thanks.
I emerged from the Lion's Den unscathed and 100% nic free. My friend's brother was there altering between Marlboros and Grizzly, which was my M.O. for the cabin, too. He looked ridiculous and I'm glad that I wasn't joining in, for once. I realized that my buddy's cabin was not just somewhere I'd used tobacco heavily my whole life, rather tobacco use was the real reason behind going to the cabin in the first place. On one of the intro threads I was reading (Got2, I think) someone said that they found that they lost interest in a number of hobbies after they quit when they realized that said hobby was just an excuse to f the nic bitch. I don't know what hobbies I will drop (rifle season for deer probably) but I know that I will just choose to be with my family more often.
Here are some of the things I'm going to do differently:
-stay closer to KTC as I get into the teens, twenties, and way beyond. I was feelin' good after a couple of weeks and let my guard down.
-print out the contract to quit and keep it in my wallet.
-find some hate for US Tobacco. I got hooked as a young kid and this shit will kill me.
-keep the shame of caving very fresh in my memory.
-get my wife further involved in my quit.
Have I accepted NAFAR? Still no, and YES I understand that I have to get my head right. But, like b-lo said, don't worry about NAFAR just now. Just QLF ODAAT.
I will not use tobacco today.
This will come in time the important part is that you are changing your mindset its slow for some fast for others....
like I told another brother here once that said his fone was dead and couldnt reach his contacts build a few contacts into Ms. Minnys fone. That is back up to the back up I know and may appear redundant but going through withdrawals over and over seem that way to me too. Just have Ms Minny fire that text out that you are about to use give her the power to help and I bet your quit gets strong in a hurry. Another back up plan to accountability...KTC cant watch you 24/7 but Ms. Minny can.
Good job staying quit
I think we have ourselves a quitter here.
One day at a time Minny. You can do this.
As far as deer hunting goes, CONTACT ME, we need to talk. Start with a PM.
Ryan
Good stuff Minny. You got this. Some good dialogue below from B-loMatt and Jake. Keep it simple. Focus on today's quit don't get ahead of yourself. QLF ODAAT. I am quit with you bro! Glad to have you back.
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There's lots of good stuff here and also in the PMs you've been sending. Many thanks.
I emerged from the Lion's Den unscathed and 100% nic free. My friend's brother was there altering between Marlboros and Grizzly, which was my M.O. for the cabin, too. He looked ridiculous and I'm glad that I wasn't joining in, for once. I realized that my buddy's cabin was not just somewhere I'd used tobacco heavily my whole life, rather tobacco use was the real reason behind going to the cabin in the first place. On one of the intro threads I was reading (Got2, I think) someone said that they found that they lost interest in a number of hobbies after they quit when they realized that said hobby was just an excuse to f the nic bitch. I don't know what hobbies I will drop (rifle season for deer probably) but I know that I will just choose to be with my family more often.
Here are some of the things I'm going to do differently:
-stay closer to KTC as I get into the teens, twenties, and way beyond. I was feelin' good after a couple of weeks and let my guard down.
-print out the contract to quit and keep it in my wallet.
-find some hate for US Tobacco. I got hooked as a young kid and this shit will kill me.
-keep the shame of caving very fresh in my memory.
-get my wife further involved in my quit.
Have I accepted NAFAR? Still no, and YES I understand that I have to get my head right. But, like b-lo said, don't worry about NAFAR just now. Just QLF ODAAT.
I will not use tobacco today.
This will come in time the important part is that you are changing your mindset its slow for some fast for others....
like I told another brother here once that said his fone was dead and couldnt reach his contacts build a few contacts into Ms. Minnys fone. That is back up to the back up I know and may appear redundant but going through withdrawals over and over seem that way to me too. Just have Ms Minny fire that text out that you are about to use give her the power to help and I bet your quit gets strong in a hurry. Another back up plan to accountability...KTC cant watch you 24/7 but Ms. Minny can.
Good job staying quit
I think we have ourselves a quitter here.
One day at a time Minny. You can do this.
As far as deer hunting goes, CONTACT ME, we need to talk. Start with a PM.
Ryan
Good stuff Minny. You got this. Some good dialogue below from B-loMatt and Jake. Keep it simple. Focus on today's quit don't get ahead of yourself. QLF ODAAT. I am quit with you bro! Glad to have you back.
Minny you sound like you have a quit going now! Just keep the tools sharp man. I would have caved at the least and most likely been back to being a slave if I had not used the tools. PM me if you need my #.
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The past two days have been hell and it's pissing me off. I'm having some of the hardest cravings yet and they're not even coming in waves, it's like 48 hours of constant crave.s The fog is back too, which I haven't had since (my first) days 3,4,5. From reading Intros it seems like this is pretty damn normal, so whatever.
Reading a lot of the brand spanking new Intros makes me think that the first paragraph to any Intro should answer the question, "What do you think it means to be quit?"
Anyway, it's a late night at the office. Just me and the cleaning lady (who doesn't notice me and has been singing quite enthusiastically for a while now). This used to be prime dipping time. In fact, instead of going home I used to stay late sometimes just to have a chew. I would get shit done, but mostly I was just getting my fix.
Another thing about chewing in the office: I used to spit and discard my chew in the garbage can quite a bit. It stunk like hell, I'm sure. I don't miss that.
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The past two days have been hell and it's pissing me off. I'm having some of the hardest cravings yet and they're not even coming in waves, it's like 48 hours of constant crave.s The fog is back too, which I haven't had since (my first) days 3,4,5. From reading Intros it seems like this is pretty damn normal, so whatever.
Reading a lot of the brand spanking new Intros makes me think that the first paragraph to any Intro should answer the question, "What do you think it means to be quit?"
Anyway, it's a late night at the office. Just me and the cleaning lady (who doesn't notice me and has been singing quite enthusiastically for a while now). This used to be prime dipping time. In fact, instead of going home I used to stay late sometimes just to have a chew. I would get shit done, but mostly I was just getting my fix.
Another thing about chewing in the office: I used to spit and discard my chew in the garbage can quite a bit. It stunk like hell, I'm sure. I don't miss that.
We all have good and bad days bro. The nic bitch tries to grab all of us. Doesn't matter how many days we have been quit. On bad days I simply repeat I am a man of my word all day long. That's why posting roll is the key. Now keep your word and choke that nic bitch out.
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The past two days have been hell and it's pissing me off. I'm having some of the hardest cravings yet and they're not even coming in waves, it's like 48 hours of constant crave.s The fog is back too, which I haven't had since (my first) days 3,4,5. From reading Intros it seems like this is pretty damn normal, so whatever.
Reading a lot of the brand spanking new Intros makes me think that the first paragraph to any Intro should answer the question, "What do you think it means to be quit?"
Anyway, it's a late night at the office. Just me and the cleaning lady (who doesn't notice me and has been singing quite enthusiastically for a while now). This used to be prime dipping time. In fact, instead of going home I used to stay late sometimes just to have a chew. I would get shit done, but mostly I was just getting my fix.
Another thing about chewing in the office: I used to spit and discard my chew in the garbage can quite a bit. It stunk like hell, I'm sure. I don't miss that.
We all have good and bad days bro. The nic bitch tries to grab all of us. Doesn't matter how many days we have been quit. On bad days I simply repeat I am a man of my word all day long. That's why posting roll is the key. Now keep your word and choke that nic bitch out.
There will be good days and bad days Minny. But you must stay quit nonetheless. It does get better. You have to power through it. Use the tools.
How many years did you use? It takes some time to undue all that damage.
Bottomline, you dont need that shit, and you never did. Nicotine never did anything positive for you. The only thing it ever did was remove the withdrawal symptoms that it created. You bought the lie that it was so great. I bought the lie too.
Keep it up, one day at a time. BTW, I responded to your PM about hunting. Tell me what you think of my comments. We can talk about it more if you'd like.
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I like to picture one of the hot witches from either oz the great and powerful or hansel and gretel witch hunters as the nic bitch. I like to imagine she finds me in a moment of weakness because I have been very constipated (think 4 day music festival living on a diet of immodium AD and peanut butter and honey pita sandwiches for days...). The hag tries to make me cave but instead I get pissed at her for putting shit in my lip for 20 years and punch her in the throat. I then feel free and take a big messy dump in the nic hags gapping orafice! It helps me get through the day, but might not work for everyone... If it helps to free you up imagine that while the hag is recovering from your throat punch you put a chair on her chest with the front cross support on her throat and then you drop trou and sit backwards on the chair so s to be able to wait patiently for the immodium to wear off... Just remember to put your feet on her wrists so you have total control. I am not normaly this sadistic but I just imagine what Gahndi would do...
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I like to picture one of the hot witches from either oz the great and powerful or hansel and gretel witch hunters as the nic bitch. I like to imagine she finds me in a moment of weakness because I have been very constipated (think 4 day music festival living on a diet of immodium AD and peanut butter and honey pita sandwiches for days...). The hag tries to make me cave but instead I get pissed at her for putting shit in my lip for 20 years and punch her in the throat. I then feel free and take a big messy dump in the nic hags gapping orafice! It helps me get through the day, but might not work for everyone... If it helps to free you up imagine that while the hag is recovering from your throat punch you put a chair on her chest with the front cross support on her throat and then you drop trou and sit backwards on the chair so s to be able to wait patiently for the immodium to wear off... Just remember to put your feet on her wrists so you have total control. I am not normaly this sadistic but I just imagine what Gahndi would do...
Wow B-loMatt. Hope you are friends with Minny. Please don't post this weird crap in the threads of newbies, haha.
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I like to picture one of the hot witches from either oz the great and powerful or hansel and gretel witch hunters as the nic bitch. I like to imagine she finds me in a moment of weakness because I have been very constipated (think 4 day music festival living on a diet of immodium AD and peanut butter and honey pita sandwiches for days...). The hag tries to make me cave but instead I get pissed at her for putting shit in my lip for 20 years and punch her in the throat. I then feel free and take a big messy dump in the nic hags gapping orafice! It helps me get through the day, but might not work for everyone... If it helps to free you up imagine that while the hag is recovering from your throat punch you put a chair on her chest with the front cross support on her throat and then you drop trou and sit backwards on the chair so s to be able to wait patiently for the immodium to wear off... Just remember to put your feet on her wrists so you have total control. I am not normaly this sadistic but I just imagine what Gahndi would do...
Wow B-loMatt. Hope you are friends with Minny. Please don't post this weird crap in the threads of newbies, haha.
. . . :blink:
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The past two days have been hell and it's pissing me off. I'm having some of the hardest cravings yet and they're not even coming in waves, it's like 48 hours of constant crave.s The fog is back too, which I haven't had since (my first) days 3,4,5. From reading Intros it seems like this is pretty damn normal, so whatever.
Reading a lot of the brand spanking new Intros makes me think that the first paragraph to any Intro should answer the question, "What do you think it means to be quit?"
Anyway, it's a late night at the office. Just me and the cleaning lady (who doesn't notice me and has been singing quite enthusiastically for a while now). This used to be prime dipping time. In fact, instead of going home I used to stay late sometimes just to have a chew. I would get shit done, but mostly I was just getting my fix.
Another thing about chewing in the office: I used to spit and discard my chew in the garbage can quite a bit. It stunk like hell, I'm sure. I don't miss that.
Hang in there buddy. I am more of a newbie than you but try to change your routine a little more so you are not just reliving by habit.
An example would be: instead of sitting there working and dipping while the maid cleans. Hammer the maid from the back and do a reach around while chewing on a toothpick.
You don't have to follow the listed example, I just threw it out there but change something.
Also, go work out, it makes a huge difference for me.
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Just saying once I built up my rage and focused it where it belongs my quit got a lot easier...
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Just saying once I built up my rage and focused it where it belongs my quit got a lot easier...
Best. Comparison. Ever.
'crackup'
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I like to picture one of the hot witches from either oz the great and powerful or hansel and gretel witch hunters as the nic bitch. I like to imagine she finds me in a moment of weakness because I have been very constipated (think 4 day music festival living on a diet of immodium AD and peanut butter and honey pita sandwiches for days...). The hag tries to make me cave but instead I get pissed at her for putting shit in my lip for 20 years and punch her in the throat. I then feel free and take a big messy dump in the nic hags gapping orafice! It helps me get through the day, but might not work for everyone... If it helps to free you up imagine that while the hag is recovering from your throat punch you put a chair on her chest with the front cross support on her throat and then you drop trou and sit backwards on the chair so s to be able to wait patiently for the immodium to wear off... Just remember to put your feet on her wrists so you have total control. I am not normaly this sadistic but I just imagine what Gahndi would do...
I just REALLY read this for the first time. WOW! 'Crazy'
'crackup'
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Just saying once I built up my rage and focused it where it belongs my quit got a lot easier...
Best. Comparison. Ever.
'crackup'
'Finger'
If you're not pissed at the nicBitch, you need to turn your quit up one big notch.
That crap enslaved you, poisoned your body, played with your mind, made you look stupid,
emptied your wallets . . . . basically stole part of your lives! If that doesn't get your goat, you
ain't got a goat to get. A healthy Quit Anger goes a long way toward energizing you to say "Fuck off"
when the craves and tests come your way. So get pissed and stay alive . . . .
'Finger'
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I have read in several threads the complaints of others that being quit is making time stand still. I agree that it makes time go by more slowly, but it happens to be one of my favorite things about being quit and part of KTC.
Life is flying by too quickly, my daughter is growing up too fast, my hair is graying seemingly overnight, and so on.
One.
Day.
At.
A.
Time.
Slows things down.
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I have read in several threads the complaints of others that being quit is making time stand still. I agree that it makes time go by more slowly, but it happens to be one of my favorite things about being quit and part of KTC.
Life is flying by too quickly, my daughter is growing up too fast, my hair is graying seemingly overnight, and so on.
One.
Day.
At.
A.
Time.
Slows things down.
You got it Minny.
No more racing around trying to figure out when and where your gonna get your next nic fix. Just live life, smell the roses, stay until the end of the game or the end of the wedding or for the whole graduations party or family get together. I don't know about you but I spent my whole life trying to hurry up and get out of places so I could hurry up and chew. I didn't realize it at the time but now I understand.
Now that I am quit simple things like walking around the grocery store with my wife is no longer excruciating. In the past I would last 30 min than start going crazy.
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I have read in several threads the complaints of others that being quit is making time stand still. I agree that it makes time go by more slowly, but it happens to be one of my favorite things about being quit and part of KTC.
Life is flying by too quickly, my daughter is growing up too fast, my hair is graying seemingly overnight, and so on.
One.
Day.
At.
A.
Time.
Slows things down.
You got it Minny.
No more racing around trying to figure out when and where your gonna get your next nic fix. Just live life, smell the roses, stay until the end of the game or the end of the wedding or for the whole graduations party or family get together. I don't know about you but I spent my whole life trying to hurry up and get out of places so I could hurry up and chew. I didn't realize it at the time but now I understand.
Now that I am quit simple things like walking around the grocery store with my wife is no longer excruciating. In the past I would last 30 min than start going crazy.
Nice. live in the now
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I have read in several threads the complaints of others that being quit is making time stand still. I agree that it makes time go by more slowly, but it happens to be one of my favorite things about being quit and part of KTC.
Life is flying by too quickly, my daughter is growing up too fast, my hair is graying seemingly overnight, and so on.
One.
Day.
At.
A.
Time.
Slows things down.
You got it Minny.
No more racing around trying to figure out when and where your gonna get your next nic fix. Just live life, smell the roses, stay until the end of the game or the end of the wedding or for the whole graduations party or family get together. I don't know about you but I spent my whole life trying to hurry up and get out of places so I could hurry up and chew. I didn't realize it at the time but now I understand.
Now that I am quit simple things like walking around the grocery store with my wife is no longer excruciating. In the past I would last 30 min than start going crazy.
Nice. live in the now
I agree with you Minny, but one comment... when you are in the heat of a quit battle, your nerve is dwindling, your mind is racing, you have a mouthful of seeds you want to scratch your eyes out -- it is a very natural feeling to want the bell to ring, hit the rack and wake up the next day for a +1. Who wouldn't want that.
The key here is that you need to remember these times when you want to scratch your eyes out -- you need to never want to be in that position again. It is the absolute worst feeling in the world and you need to never forget it!
I love your attitude about embracing the time. You want to get to the ODAAT point that it sounds you are in right today, where you can actually begin to enjoy life quit on a daily basis. Embracing the day before you not be focusing your efforts on tomorrow, next week, next month - just living in the moment enjoying the day quit! That is where we all want to be and it is why we all quit that evil poison. That is a very good place... It is a place where you begin to live. I am learning to live in the place each day 2.
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I type this from a hotel room. There are nearly twenty of us on this bachelor party excursion and I'm the only one that doesn't use tobacco. There's a tin of wintergreen on the dresser and another nearby, I'm sure.
It was a four hour drive to get here and everyone else in the car dipped the whole way. We had a great steak dinner and everyone else had a dip afterward. We went out for cocktails and out came the cigs and I just watched. Today we will be golfing and drinking and quitting will be easy because of KTC.
Thank you to everyone that contributes to this site. KTC is the only thing that has ever worked for me.
I don't want a single 'attaboy', please. I just want to say thanks and encourage others. One thing I've realized by reading your Intros and such is that I am very fortunate in life. Many of you face daily challenges that make me and my struggle with nicotine look like a walk in the park.
I humbly quit with you today.
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I type this from a hotel room. There are nearly twenty of us on this bachelor party excursion and I'm the only one that doesn't use tobacco. There's a tin of wintergreen on the dresser and another nearby, I'm sure.
It was a four hour drive to get here and everyone else in the car dipped the whole way. We had a great steak dinner and everyone else had a dip afterward. We went out for cocktails and out came the cigs and I just watched. Today we will be golfing and drinking and quitting will be easy because of KTC.
Thank you to everyone that contributes to this site. KTC is the only thing that has ever worked for me.
I don't want a single 'attaboy', please. I just want to say thanks and encourage others. One thing I've realized by reading your Intros and such is that I am very fortunate in life. Many of you face daily challenges that make me and my struggle with nicotine look like a walk in the park.
I humbly quit with you today.
I quit with you today
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I type this from a hotel room. There are nearly twenty of us on this bachelor party excursion and I'm the only one that doesn't use tobacco. There's a tin of wintergreen on the dresser and another nearby, I'm sure.
It was a four hour drive to get here and everyone else in the car dipped the whole way. We had a great steak dinner and everyone else had a dip afterward. We went out for cocktails and out came the cigs and I just watched. Today we will be golfing and drinking and quitting will be easy because of KTC.
Thank you to everyone that contributes to this site. KTC is the only thing that has ever worked for me.
I don't want a single 'attaboy', please. I just want to say thanks and encourage others. One thing I've realized by reading your Intros and such is that I am very fortunate in life. Many of you face daily challenges that make me and my struggle with nicotine look like a walk in the park.
I humbly quit with you today.
I quit with you today
I quit with you too Minny. I remember that day well. The first time it was all around me. Stay in control Minny, keep your eye on the prize. Freedom does have a price. You can conquer in the face of adversity, and your quit becomes so much stronger because of it.
Careful with the alcohol this weekend. Please, I am telling you, mix in some NA shit and take it a little slower than you may be used to. I am judging your drinking habits but I am just speaking about mine and a few experiences I had early in my quit.
Be ready friend, plan, plan, plan. Jerkey, seeds, phone numbers, etc and watch the alcohol. Failure to plan is planning to fail. I am with you bro. You have my number. If you don't PM and you will.
Ryan
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I type this from a hotel room. There are nearly twenty of us on this bachelor party excursion and I'm the only one that doesn't use tobacco. There's a tin of wintergreen on the dresser and another nearby, I'm sure.
It was a four hour drive to get here and everyone else in the car dipped the whole way. We had a great steak dinner and everyone else had a dip afterward. We went out for cocktails and out came the cigs and I just watched. Today we will be golfing and drinking and quitting will be easy because of KTC.
Thank you to everyone that contributes to this site. KTC is the only thing that has ever worked for me.
I don't want a single 'attaboy', please. I just want to say thanks and encourage others. One thing I've realized by reading your Intros and such is that I am very fortunate in life. Many of you face daily challenges that make me and my struggle with nicotine look like a walk in the park.
I humbly quit with you today.
I quit with you today
I quit with you too Minny. I remember that day well. The first time it was all around me. Stay in control Minny, keep your eye on the prize. Freedom does have a price. You can conquer in the face of adversity, and your quit becomes so much stronger because of it.
Careful with the alcohol this weekend. Please, I am telling you, mix in some NA shit and take it a little slower than you may be used to. I am judging your drinking habits but I am just speaking about mine and a few experiences I had early in my quit.
Be ready friend, plan, plan, plan. Jerkey, seeds, phone numbers, etc and watch the alcohol. Failure to plan is planning to fail. I am with you bro. You have my number. If you don't PM and you will.
Ryan
My observations are that folks that quit and stick with it become inspirational to addicts. Deep down addicts hate their addiction. Often, they just don't have the tools to beat it or don't have the courage. Stay quit. Observe over time. You will be the bad ass in the room soon enough.
FU nic.
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I type this from a hotel room. There are nearly twenty of us on this bachelor party excursion and I'm the only one that doesn't use tobacco. There's a tin of wintergreen on the dresser and another nearby, I'm sure.
It was a four hour drive to get here and everyone else in the car dipped the whole way. We had a great steak dinner and everyone else had a dip afterward. We went out for cocktails and out came the cigs and I just watched. Today we will be golfing and drinking and quitting will be easy because of KTC.
Thank you to everyone that contributes to this site. KTC is the only thing that has ever worked for me.
I don't want a single 'attaboy', please. I just want to say thanks and encourage others. One thing I've realized by reading your Intros and such is that I am very fortunate in life. Many of you face daily challenges that make me and my struggle with nicotine look like a walk in the park.
I humbly quit with you today.
I quit with you today
I quit with you too Minny. I remember that day well. The first time it was all around me. Stay in control Minny, keep your eye on the prize. Freedom does have a price. You can conquer in the face of adversity, and your quit becomes so much stronger because of it.
Careful with the alcohol this weekend. Please, I am telling you, mix in some NA shit and take it a little slower than you may be used to. I am judging your drinking habits but I am just speaking about mine and a few experiences I had early in my quit.
Be ready friend, plan, plan, plan. Jerkey, seeds, phone numbers, etc and watch the alcohol. Failure to plan is planning to fail. I am with you bro. You have my number. If you don't PM and you will.
Ryan
My observations are that folks that quit and stick with it become inspirational to addicts. Deep down addicts hate their addiction. Often, they just don't have the tools to beat it or don't have the courage. Stay quit. Observe over time. You will be the bad ass in the room soon enough.
FU nic.
I remember my first bit outing with a bunch of guys early in my quit. Golfing, Poker, drinking. I was scared shitless in fact I almost did not go.
I took my HOF coin with me and every time I had the urge to dip I took it out and looked at it. Used it as a ball marker too. I made it through the weekend and felt like a true bad ass for what I had been through.
The experience made my resolve and my quit that much stronger. Keep fighting and your toolbox will continue to grow. Nicely Done.
STAY QUIT
Greg
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Are you back from that trip to hell?
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Are you back from that trip to hell?
Thank you for asking. I really enjoyed myself at the bachelor party. I experienced high levels of anxiety before the trip but everything was fine (my quit was strong as hell). Please save your attaboys until I hit 1,000.
My quit resolve is all owed to the following:
-KTC
-Asking my KTC buddies for extra help (you know who you are)
-Involving my wife in my quit and telling her alllllll about KTC
-Telling anyone who would listen (including the 12 tobacco fiends on the trip) about my quit
Thank you for your support.
ODAAT
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No attaboys Minny since you don't want 'em. Keep it up then quitter. You have really done a 180 and gone hardcore bad ass in the last month, but just keep +1ing like you have been and you will be quit.
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Quitters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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QUACK FOOKING QUACK QUITTER!
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Dear badass quitter and empathizing supporters,
Thank you for the PMs, roll call nods, texts, intros posts, and for telling me like it is. There are so many solid people on here. You all rock.
My quit is as strong as ever and I don't see it happening without you all.
I humbly quit with you today.
Minny
Newbies: Stress is not an excuse to cave. Any stress you are feeling can be trumped by dozens of KTC quitters. Alcohol isn't a reason to cave. Thousands of KTC quitters know to either abstain or control it whilst protecting their quit. No special situation is a reason to cave.
There's only one explanation for caving: choosing to cave.
So, next time you think about rationalizing that tobacco fix, think about the guys who are struggling to get by, the guys that just read a Dear John letter, the guys that are in a custody battle, the guys that are bracing for or just attended a funeral, and on and on.
Screaming kids? Mortgage payment? Fighting with the wife? Family member is sick? Drunk with your buddies?
Welcome to LIFE. There are no special butterflies (Scowick).
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THANK YOU Minny! My roll dog! Keeping it quit with the likes of you bud.
Peace.
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Dear badass quitter and empathizing supporters,
Thank you for the PMs, roll call nods, texts, intros posts, and for telling me like it is. There are so many solid people on here. You all rock.
My quit is as strong as ever and I don't see it happening without you all.
I humbly quit with you today.
Minny
Newbies: Stress is not an excuse to cave. Any stress you are feeling can be trumped by dozens of KTC quitters. Alcohol isn't a reason to cave. Thousands of KTC quitters know to either abstain or control it whilst protecting their quit. No special situation is a reason to cave.
There's only one explanation for caving: choosing to cave.
So, next time you think about rationalizing that tobacco fix, think about the guys who are struggling to get by, the guys that just read a Dear John letter, the guys that are in a custody battle, the guys that are bracing for or just attended a funeral, and on and on.
Screaming kids? Mortgage payment? Fighting with the wife? Family member is sick? Drunk with your buddies?
Welcome to LIFE. There are no special butterflies (Scowick).
That's right..no special butterflies! So glad you are a DUCK! Accepting there is no excuse for using and remembering 1 problem + Nic= 2 problems makes resisting easier. You realize, the weed is always full of turtle droppings. haha
Quit with you Minny!
QUACK! QUACK!
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Dear badass quitter and empathizing supporters,
Thank you for the PMs, roll call nods, texts, intros posts, and for telling me like it is. There are so many solid people on here. You all rock.
My quit is as strong as ever and I don't see it happening without you all.
I humbly quit with you today.
Minny
Newbies: Stress is not an excuse to cave. Any stress you are feeling can be trumped by dozens of KTC quitters. Alcohol isn't a reason to cave. Thousands of KTC quitters know to either abstain or control it whilst protecting their quit. No special situation is a reason to cave.
There's only one explanation for caving: choosing to cave.
So, next time you think about rationalizing that tobacco fix, think about the guys who are struggling to get by, the guys that just read a Dear John letter, the guys that are in a custody battle, the guys that are bracing for or just attended a funeral, and on and on.
Screaming kids? Mortgage payment? Fighting with the wife? Family member is sick? Drunk with your buddies?
Welcome to LIFE. There are no special butterflies (Scowick).
That's right..no special butterflies! So glad you are a DUCK! Accepting there is no excuse for using and remembering 1 problem + Nic= 2 problems makes resisting easier. You realize, the weed is always full of turtle droppings. haha
Quit with you Minny!
QUACK! QUACK!
Minny, You got your quit in great shape and that is inspiring. You took a lot of heat, owned it, and came out swinging this final round. I see others flying off to hide int the garden of special butterflies under the same heat.
Proud of you and it is great to be quit with you today.
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Dear badass quitter and empathizing supporters,
Thank you for the PMs, roll call nods, texts, intros posts, and for telling me like it is. There are so many solid people on here. You all rock.
My quit is as strong as ever and I don't see it happening without you all.
I humbly quit with you today.
Minny
Newbies: Stress is not an excuse to cave. Any stress you are feeling can be trumped by dozens of KTC quitters. Alcohol isn't a reason to cave. Thousands of KTC quitters know to either abstain or control it whilst protecting their quit. No special situation is a reason to cave.
There's only one explanation for caving: choosing to cave.
So, next time you think about rationalizing that tobacco fix, think about the guys who are struggling to get by, the guys that just read a Dear John letter, the guys that are in a custody battle, the guys that are bracing for or just attended a funeral, and on and on.
Screaming kids? Mortgage payment? Fighting with the wife? Family member is sick? Drunk with your buddies?
Welcome to LIFE. There are no special butterflies (Scowick).
That's right..no special butterflies! So glad you are a DUCK! Accepting there is no excuse for using and remembering 1 problem + Nic= 2 problems makes resisting easier. You realize, the weed is always full of turtle droppings. haha
Quit with you Minny!
QUACK! QUACK!
Minny, You got your quit in great shape and that is inspiring. You took a lot of heat, owned it, and came out swinging this final round. I see others flying off to hide int the garden of special butterflies under the same heat.
Proud of you and it is great to be quit with you today.
Great stuff, true stuff! Proud of you Minny. Took your lumps and then made your own decision, and now you are killing it! Gonna be telling newbs to read your intro thread for sure.
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Dear badass quitter and empathizing supporters,
Thank you for the PMs, roll call nods, texts, intros posts, and for telling me like it is. There are so many solid people on here. You all rock.
My quit is as strong as ever and I don't see it happening without you all.
I humbly quit with you today.
Minny
Newbies: Stress is not an excuse to cave. Any stress you are feeling can be trumped by dozens of KTC quitters. Alcohol isn't a reason to cave. Thousands of KTC quitters know to either abstain or control it whilst protecting their quit. No special situation is a reason to cave.
There's only one explanation for caving: choosing to cave.
So, next time you think about rationalizing that tobacco fix, think about the guys who are struggling to get by, the guys that just read a Dear John letter, the guys that are in a custody battle, the guys that are bracing for or just attended a funeral, and on and on.
Screaming kids? Mortgage payment? Fighting with the wife? Family member is sick? Drunk with your buddies?
Welcome to LIFE. There are no special butterflies (Scowick).
That's right..no special butterflies! So glad you are a DUCK! Accepting there is no excuse for using and remembering 1 problem + Nic= 2 problems makes resisting easier. You realize, the weed is always full of turtle droppings. haha
Quit with you Minny!
QUACK! QUACK!
Minny, You got your quit in great shape and that is inspiring. You took a lot of heat, owned it, and came out swinging this final round. I see others flying off to hide int the garden of special butterflies under the same heat.
Proud of you and it is great to be quit with you today.
Great stuff, true stuff! Proud of you Minny. Took your lumps and then made your own decision, and now you are killing it! Gonna be telling newbs to read your intro thread for sure.
I agree with these guys up ^^^^^^. You are a guy that is locked on this quit thing. You know what it takes to stay quit you are executing your plan. I am seeing you get pretty active on the site your knowledge helps quitters! Keep battling! Quit with you today brother!
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Congrats on 100 days of freedom brother! Proud to be quit with you today!
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Congrats Brother!!!!!
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Congrats Brother!!!!!
Proud if you minny. Followed you from the beginning. You've come a long way! Life gets even better !!!
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Nice job Minny you have pulled thru difficult times keep vigilant proud of u Minny enjoy your evening
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100 days? HoF? Congrats! Awesome work to get there for sure!
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Dear badass quitter and empathizing supporters,
Thank you for the PMs, roll call nods, texts, intros posts, and for telling me like it is. There are so many solid people on here. You all rock.
My quit is as strong as ever and I don't see it happening without you all.
I humbly quit with you today.
Minny
Newbies: Stress is not an excuse to cave. Any stress you are feeling can be trumped by dozens of KTC quitters. Alcohol isn't a reason to cave. Thousands of KTC quitters know to either abstain or control it whilst protecting their quit. No special situation is a reason to cave.
There's only one explanation for caving: choosing to cave.
So, next time you think about rationalizing that tobacco fix, think about the guys who are struggling to get by, the guys that just read a Dear John letter, the guys that are in a custody battle, the guys that are bracing for or just attended a funeral, and on and on.
Screaming kids? Mortgage payment? Fighting with the wife? Family member is sick? Drunk with your buddies?
Welcome to LIFE. There are no special butterflies (Scowick).
That's right..no special butterflies! So glad you are a DUCK! Accepting there is no excuse for using and remembering 1 problem + Nic= 2 problems makes resisting easier. You realize, the weed is always full of turtle droppings. haha
Quit with you Minny!
QUACK! QUACK!
Minny, You got your quit in great shape and that is inspiring. You took a lot of heat, owned it, and came out swinging this final round. I see others flying off to hide int the garden of special butterflies under the same heat.
Proud of you and it is great to be quit with you today.
Great stuff, true stuff! Proud of you Minny. Took your lumps and then made your own decision, and now you are killing it! Gonna be telling newbs to read your intro thread for sure.
I agree with these guys up ^^^^^^. You are a guy that is locked on this quit thing. You know what it takes to stay quit you are executing your plan. I am seeing you get pretty active on the site your knowledge helps quitters! Keep battling! Quit with you today brother!
Good job Minny.
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Congrats on 100 days of freedom brother! Proud to be quit with you today!
Thanks, all! The quit life is GOOD. I'm very grateful for your support. For whatever reason it took me longer than most to find the second gear of my quit.
From roll call yesterday: "As far as inspiring to Minny is Scowick, Erussell and Lionheartedgirl. He would like to thank, "In no particular order: Derk, Duathman, Gorilla, Srans, Trauma, Sco, Evil, 30isEnuff, FuFutheSnu, It'sGot2Happen, B-Lo Matt, CaliforniaSlim, Paradigm Dawg. Through insight, candor, encouragement, they helped me find my quit."
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Congrats on 100 days of freedom brother! Proud to be quit with you today!
Thanks, all! The quit life is GOOD. I'm very grateful for your support. For whatever reason it took me longer than most to find the second gear of my quit.
From roll call yesterday: "As far as inspiring to Minny is Scowick, Erussell and Lionheartedgirl. He would like to thank, "In no particular order: Derk, Duathman, Gorilla, Srans, Trauma, Sco, Evil, 30isEnuff, FuFutheSnu, It'sGot2Happen, B-Lo Matt, CaliforniaSlim, Paradigm Dawg. Through insight, candor, encouragement, they helped me find my quit."
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You are most welcome Minny. Congrats on the milestone buddy. I had high hopes for you. I was pretty sure you had it in you, but you did have me nervous with those big cigar fantasies. The bitch is the bitch, cigars, dip, electronic, whatever. It is all a lure to get you back. Addiction is a bitch, always lurking. Looking for a quit to steal. Keep your guard up Minny. Use the tools. Proud to be quit with you. Never again for any reason.
Ryan
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Congrats on 100 days of freedom brother! Proud to be quit with you today!
Thanks, all! The quit life is GOOD. I'm very grateful for your support. For whatever reason it took me longer than most to find the second gear of my quit.
From roll call yesterday: "As far as inspiring to Minny is Scowick, Erussell and Lionheartedgirl. He would like to thank, "In no particular order: Derk, Duathman, Gorilla, Srans, Trauma, Sco, Evil, 30isEnuff, FuFutheSnu, It'sGot2Happen, B-Lo Matt, CaliforniaSlim, Paradigm Dawg. Through insight, candor, encouragement, they helped me find my quit."
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Minny, Big Congrats on 100 days!
I'm really honored to have been any part of your quit. This really touched me. I've been missing the "giving back" part of quitting... might be time for me to jump in a little more again.
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Meant to do this the other day on your 100!!
Grab those blankets that we picked up in South Dakota because we are headed to the land of the gophers, Minneapolis, MN (or is that Montana?) to pick up minny. This married man of 1 miny minny is planning to post roll, eat some steak and drink some scotch on his day 100. Since minny is in the 401k industry I would say that he has already done one of those things and still needs to post roll and eat some steak. Minny's avatar kinda leaves up for for grabs on what he enjoys doing, but if you don't know he likes to hop into his '05 Honda (civic?) and hunt some ducks.
Minny started using at age 13 and went through quite a few brands before coming to the brand of quit. Once on the train Minny is bringing "Surly Furious" (help here?) and any of the mods would do if there was an accident. Minny loves to do inappropriate things but is not indulging us with what he and Mrs. Minny did cause she would "kill" him if he told. Uh, you can PM me and no one will know I promise!
This quitter is most definitely signing up for 200 and has this for words of wisdom, "Stress is the biggest bullshit excuse for using nicotine. Life is stressful and nicotine doesn't solve anything. Caving is a choice." Great mindset Minny!! Kubrick and OIB have the best avatars according to Minny, although just about everybody on the train has said the ones and were unable to remember whose they were. Glad this mystery is solved. Minny knows the sluts and duck fippers scare the bajesus out of him and keep him in line. As far as inspiring to Minny is Scowick, Erussell and Lionheartedgirl. He would like to thank, "In no particular order: Derk, Duathman, Gorilla, Srans, Trauma, Sco, Evil, 30isEnuff, FuFutheSnu, It'sGot2Happen, B-Lo Matt, CaliforniaSlim, Paradigm Dawg. Through insight, candor, encouragement, they helped me find my quit."
Grab another scotch and take seat Minny. You most definitely deserve your place on this train. Well done brother!!!!
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Meant to do this the other day on your 100!!
Grab those blankets that we picked up in South Dakota because we are headed to the land of the gophers, Minneapolis, MN (or is that Montana?) to pick up minny. This married man of 1 miny minny is planning to post roll, eat some steak and drink some scotch on his day 100. Since minny is in the 401k industry I would say that he has already done one of those things and still needs to post roll and eat some steak. Minny's avatar kinda leaves up for for grabs on what he enjoys doing, but if you don't know he likes to hop into his '05 Honda (civic?) and hunt some ducks.
Minny started using at age 13 and went through quite a few brands before coming to the brand of quit. Once on the train Minny is bringing "Surly Furious" (help here?) and any of the mods would do if there was an accident. Minny loves to do inappropriate things but is not indulging us with what he and Mrs. Minny did cause she would "kill" him if he told. Uh, you can PM me and no one will know I promise!
This quitter is most definitely signing up for 200 and has this for words of wisdom, "Stress is the biggest bullshit excuse for using nicotine. Life is stressful and nicotine doesn't solve anything. Caving is a choice." Great mindset Minny!! Kubrick and OIB have the best avatars according to Minny, although just about everybody on the train has said the ones and were unable to remember whose they were. Glad this mystery is solved. Minny knows the sluts and duck fippers scare the bajesus out of him and keep him in line. As far as inspiring to Minny is Scowick, Erussell and Lionheartedgirl. He would like to thank, "In no particular order: Derk, Duathman, Gorilla, Srans, Trauma, Sco, Evil, 30isEnuff, FuFutheSnu, It'sGot2Happen, B-Lo Matt, CaliforniaSlim, Paradigm Dawg. Through insight, candor, encouragement, they helped me find my quit."
Grab another scotch and take seat Minny. You most definitely deserve your place on this train. Well done brother!!!!
Congrats Minny,
You are inspired and inspiring. Proud to be quit with you brother.
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Day 124
This is a rambling bit, but I wanted to share.
I have to admit that I'm surprised to be here at 124 days since my last iota of nicotine. I clearly remember how utterly impossible it seemed to be nic free, especially during moments that qualified as "special occasions". Sitting in a duck blind sans dip was quite literally inconceivable. After all, I had never done it before. The same goes for so many things in my life, from mowing the lawn to traveling for business. I was scared to face tempting circumstances when I quit. I was scared that I would cave (like so many times before) and that I would have to live with that guilt and shame. I refused, however, to avoid situations that would truly test my resolve. The more I looked at my life, I realized that I am completely surrounded by addicts. A bummed pinch is always within twenty steps of my office, an arm's reach in the duck blind, etc. I was either going to have to find a new job and new friends, or quit in the face of constant temptation.
What I found was that conquering each tempting situation gave me confidence and my quit started to gather momentum. Beers with dipping buddies, golf with dippers, road trips, bachelor parties, fine cigars with close friends on celebratory nights, cigars with my father in law, hostiing an event in a cigar club, hunting, fishing, clay shooting, yard work... Every nic dragon slayed made me stronger. After one particularly harrowing trip (bachelor party with over a dozen dippers) I realized that had found my groove and could conquer any tempting situation. Except I still have thoughts of "just one"...
I went goose hunting on Sunday with some friends that dip and it didn't even cross my mind until I realized that it was the first time I'd been in a layout/coffin blind without having to negotiate a way to spit. That was a nice first. I smiled and thought, "none today for any reason". My point, New Quitters, is that KTC can help you undo years of hard-wired habits in a (relative to the thousands of days you've chewed) very short time span. Before you know it, you won't even think of dip and when you do the thought of returning to a life of slavery will be inconceivable.
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Congrats Minny, you like many of us have learned that life with happen and circumstances won't change and that there is always an easy way to cave.
First we were Ducks now we are Quitters. We are still addicts and will remain one ill though decision away from being back in the suck. However, not today because I made my promise to my faithful Duck Fip brothers that I QUIT!
Glad to be with you for over 120 days brother.
Pinched
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Great job Brody.
I have a picture, on my phone from last weekend, of one of my buddies sticking a Cope pouch in my ear.
It came about when my wife and I were having drinks at a sport's bar and we ran into a couple of my buddies. After an hour or so I noticed that neither one of them were dipping. I asked what was up and they said that my wife had told them that I quit and please don't dip around me.
I just laughed and told them they could dip around me so they taunted me a little trying to tempt me but quickly gave up when they saw I wouldn't budge.
At one point I had a pouch pretty darn close to my ear but maybe not quite in it. My wife got a picture, my buddies got a laugh and I got resolve in the fact that it didn't bother me one way or the other.
You are one of 28% in our group that hit HOF. Think about how difficult that was and what an accomplishment you have made
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Day 200 - Ramblings
Wow, I can't believe how quickly the 2nd hundred days went by. It seems like years ago that I was clawing my way through the first week, one day at a time. I still have dip dreams and I still have cravings, though the cravings are fewer than the dreams. I had a steady craving all day yesterday and just wanted to leave the house. I was antsy all day and a bit short with Mrs Minny - it took me a few hours to recognize that I was having a craving! Anyway, the good news is that the cravings are few and far between and the Quit Life is better than I could have ever imagined.
In other news, I caved to avatar envy and hope you enjoy my new one.
Also, I am considering moving my family to Nashville. If any of "y'all" have any experience with that town I'd certainly appreciate some feedback/tips.
See you on the third floor.
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Day 200 - Ramblings
Wow, I can't believe how quickly the 2nd hundred days went by. It seems like years ago that I was clawing my way through the first week, one day at a time. I still have dip dreams and I still have cravings, though the cravings are fewer than the dreams. I had a steady craving all day yesterday and just wanted to leave the house. I was antsy all day and a bit short with Mrs Minny - it took me a few hours to recognize that I was having a craving! Anyway, the good news is that the cravings are few and far between and the Quit Life is better than I could have ever imagined.
In other news, I caved to avatar envy and hope you enjoy my new one.
Also, I am considering moving my family to Nashville. If any of "y'all" have any experience with that town I'd certainly appreciate some feedback/tips.
See you on the third floor.
Nice job Minny strong work. Yes sometimes our behavior is difficult to identify it is just surfacing because we are craving. Nice catch self awareness is key. Also where did you find the AV of my girl...hahaa. Why Nashville Minny you gonna cut some tracks?
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Day 200 - Ramblings
Wow, I can't believe how quickly the 2nd hundred days went by. It seems like years ago that I was clawing my way through the first week, one day at a time. I still have dip dreams and I still have cravings, though the cravings are fewer than the dreams. I had a steady craving all day yesterday and just wanted to leave the house. I was antsy all day and a bit short with Mrs Minny - it took me a few hours to recognize that I was having a craving! Anyway, the good news is that the cravings are few and far between and the Quit Life is better than I could have ever imagined.
In other news, I caved to avatar envy and hope you enjoy my new one.
Also, I am considering moving my family to Nashville. If any of "y'all" have any experience with that town I'd certainly appreciate some feedback/tips.
See you on the third floor.
Ok that took me 30 minutes to read. Thanks for the new avatar. Congrats on 200!!!!
Nashville is a very nice city. Closer to a meet up as I am 4 hours south of there. Good luck to you and the other Minnys on that big decision.
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In other news, I caved to avatar envy and hope you enjoy my new one.
I absolutely love this comment "Avatar Envy" 'drool'
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Nice job on 200! You are a heck of a quitter! NTFAR! Quit on bro!
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Last night I had the most realistic cave dream so far. It was one of those dreams where you acknowledge a fact but don't witness it happening, i.e. I knew that I had caved but I didn't actually cave in my dream. So I'm sitting in my car having a f'ing breakdown - damn near suffocating under the weight of being disappointed in myself. Then it was there: a tin of Grizzly Wintergreen, in my hand.
Fuck it, I thought to myself, I've already had just one. I'll quit again tomorrow. WOW, I'm STILL an addict, I thought, recognizing my "just one" addict speak. But I still plowed ahead, opened the can and took a big fat chew. The smell was impossibly real. Did anyone else used to shudder when they smelled a freshly opened can of Wintergreen? It burned, juices flowed. Suddenly my wife was sitting next to me and just looking at me like I was a loser. Then I woke up and it took me minutes to figure out if it was real or not.
I really hate cave dreams.
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Last night I had the most realistic cave dream so far. It was one of those dreams where you acknowledge a fact but don't witness it happening, i.e. I knew that I had caved but I didn't actually cave in my dream. So I'm sitting in my car having a f'ing breakdown - damn near suffocating under the weight of being disappointed in myself. Then it was there: a tin of Grizzly Wintergreen, in my hand.
Fuck it, I thought to myself, I've already had just one. I'll quit again tomorrow. WOW, I'm STILL an addict, I thought, recognizing my "just one" addict speak. But I still plowed ahead, opened the can and took a big fat chew. The smell was impossibly real. Did anyone else used to shudder when they smelled a freshly opened can of Wintergreen? It burned, juices flowed. Suddenly my wife was sitting next to me and just looking at me like I was a loser. Then I woke up and it took me minutes to figure out if it was real or not.
I really hate cave dreams.
Damn, that just made me feel guilty and worthless, the imagery was so vividly real just reading it, I felt like I caved.
Good job on your 200, good job on not caving, and thanks for your example.
And thank god it was all just a dream, right.
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Last night I had the most realistic cave dream so far. It was one of those dreams where you acknowledge a fact but don't witness it happening, i.e. I knew that I had caved but I didn't actually cave in my dream. So I'm sitting in my car having a f'ing breakdown - damn near suffocating under the weight of being disappointed in myself. Then it was there: a tin of Grizzly Wintergreen, in my hand.
Fuck it, I thought to myself, I've already had just one. I'll quit again tomorrow. WOW, I'm STILL an addict, I thought, recognizing my "just one" addict speak. But I still plowed ahead, opened the can and took a big fat chew. The smell was impossibly real. Did anyone else used to shudder when they smelled a freshly opened can of Wintergreen? It burned, juices flowed. Suddenly my wife was sitting next to me and just looking at me like I was a loser. Then I woke up and it took me minutes to figure out if it was real or not.
I really hate cave dreams.
Damn, that just made me feel guilty and worthless, the imagery was so vividly real just reading it, I felt like I caved.
Good job on your 200, good job on not caving, and thanks for your example.
And thank god it was all just a dream, right.
Dip dreams are part of our re-wiring. As addicts we abused our brains with the nictotine. As quitters, we are regaining our Freedom, ODAAT.
It gets much better.
Quit on!
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Last night I had the most realistic cave dream so far. It was one of those dreams where you acknowledge a fact but don't witness it happening, i.e. I knew that I had caved but I didn't actually cave in my dream. So I'm sitting in my car having a f'ing breakdown - damn near suffocating under the weight of being disappointed in myself. Then it was there: a tin of Grizzly Wintergreen, in my hand.
Fuck it, I thought to myself, I've already had just one. I'll quit again tomorrow. WOW, I'm STILL an addict, I thought, recognizing my "just one" addict speak. But I still plowed ahead, opened the can and took a big fat chew. The smell was impossibly real. Did anyone else used to shudder when they smelled a freshly opened can of Wintergreen? It burned, juices flowed. Suddenly my wife was sitting next to me and just looking at me like I was a loser. Then I woke up and it took me minutes to figure out if it was real or not.
I really hate cave dreams.
Just for the record, you are a loser but you are also one hell of a quitter.
I have had a few crazy real dip dreams lately. Other than that, I don't really think about dip at all.
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I work in an office building and dipping is both outlawed and completely faux pas. This morning I took a shit in the men's room when someone came in and sat down in the stall next to me. Then I heard the familiar sound of opening a can of dip. Opened and closed in five seconds; the moves of a seasoned pro ninja dipper. Then, complete silence. I finished my business and left, but I'm keeping an eye out for the shoes of the ninja dipper and am going to help him find ktc.
How pathetic is it to spend 15 minutes on a PUBLIC toilet all to "enjoy" a dip? It's so fucking disgusting I can't get my head around it... except that I can, because I've been there. In fact, I've done worse. Digging around in the trash, for starters... skipping out on a Saturday w/ my family to run a phantom chore, bailing on professional gatherings, driving alone when it made no sense, sitting on the john at home for too long... all to serve an addiction that I knew could very likely kill me.
+1 with you badasses today. Quitting is hard, but this freedom is fanfreakingtastic.
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I work in an office building and dipping is both outlawed and completely faux pas. This morning I took a shit in the men's room when someone came in and sat down in the stall next to me. Then I heard the familiar sound of opening a can of dip. Opened and closed in five seconds; the moves of a seasoned pro ninja dipper. Then, complete silence. I finished my business and left, but I'm keeping an eye out for the shoes of the ninja dipper and am going to help him find ktc.
How pathetic is it to spend 15 minutes on a PUBLIC toilet all to "enjoy" a dip? It's so fucking disgusting I can't get my head around it... except that I can, because I've been there. In fact, I've done worse. Digging around in the trash, for starters... skipping out on a Saturday w/ my family to run a phantom chore, bailing on professional gatherings, driving alone when it made no sense, sitting on the john at home for too long... all to serve an addiction that I knew could very likely kill me.
+1 with you badasses today. Quitting is hard, but this freedom is fanfreakingtastic.
Pay it forward! Excellent!
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I work in an office building and dipping is both outlawed and completely faux pas. This morning I took a shit in the men's room when someone came in and sat down in the stall next to me. Then I heard the familiar sound of opening a can of dip. Opened and closed in five seconds; the moves of a seasoned pro ninja dipper. Then, complete silence. I finished my business and left, but I'm keeping an eye out for the shoes of the ninja dipper and am going to help him find ktc.
How pathetic is it to spend 15 minutes on a PUBLIC toilet all to "enjoy" a dip? It's so fucking disgusting I can't get my head around it... except that I can, because I've been there. In fact, I've done worse. Digging around in the trash, for starters... skipping out on a Saturday w/ my family to run a phantom chore, bailing on professional gatherings, driving alone when it made no sense, sitting on the john at home for too long... all to serve an addiction that I knew could very likely kill me.
+1 with you badasses today. Quitting is hard, but this freedom is fanfreakingtastic.
Pay it forward! Excellent!
Right on Minny! Yeah, I wasted a lot of time pursuing my fix. Its pretty damned funny thinking back on it. I never thought about it when I was using, but seeing people I know that still dip and how everything they do revolves around that next fix, makes me so thankful that we have closed the door on that pathetic chapter in our lives. +1 with you Bro!
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I work in an office building and dipping is both outlawed and completely faux pas. This morning I took a shit in the men's room when someone came in and sat down in the stall next to me. Then I heard the familiar sound of opening a can of dip. Opened and closed in five seconds; the moves of a seasoned pro ninja dipper. Then, complete silence. I finished my business and left, but I'm keeping an eye out for the shoes of the ninja dipper and am going to help him find ktc.
How pathetic is it to spend 15 minutes on a PUBLIC toilet all to "enjoy" a dip? It's so fucking disgusting I can't get my head around it... except that I can, because I've been there. In fact, I've done worse. Digging around in the trash, for starters... skipping out on a Saturday w/ my family to run a phantom chore, bailing on professional gatherings, driving alone when it made no sense, sitting on the john at home for too long... all to serve an addiction that I knew could very likely kill me.
+1 with you badasses today. Quitting is hard, but this freedom is fanfreakingtastic.
Pay it forward! Excellent!
Right on Minny! Yeah, I wasted a lot of time pursuing my fix. Its pretty damned funny thinking back on it. I never thought about it when I was using, but seeing people I know that still dip and how everything they do revolves around that next fix, makes me so thankful that we have closed the door on that pathetic chapter in our lives. +1 with you Bro!
So true how ridiculous it looks now. And I'm so glad to be done with it. I still have some degree of denial that i did all that but when I read it here, like in your description, i wonder how many times I was that guy. Quit on and thanks for posting!
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I work in an office building and dipping is both outlawed and completely faux pas. This morning I took a shit in the men's room when someone came in and sat down in the stall next to me. Then I heard the familiar sound of opening a can of dip. Opened and closed in five seconds; the moves of a seasoned pro ninja dipper. Then, complete silence. I finished my business and left, but I'm keeping an eye out for the shoes of the ninja dipper and am going to help him find ktc.
How pathetic is it to spend 15 minutes on a PUBLIC toilet all to "enjoy" a dip? It's so fucking disgusting I can't get my head around it... except that I can, because I've been there. In fact, I've done worse. Digging around in the trash, for starters... skipping out on a Saturday w/ my family to run a phantom chore, bailing on professional gatherings, driving alone when it made no sense, sitting on the john at home for too long... all to serve an addiction that I knew could very likely kill me.
+1 with you badasses today. Quitting is hard, but this freedom is fanfreakingtastic.
Pay it forward! Excellent!
Right on Minny! Yeah, I wasted a lot of time pursuing my fix. Its pretty damned funny thinking back on it. I never thought about it when I was using, but seeing people I know that still dip and how everything they do revolves around that next fix, makes me so thankful that we have closed the door on that pathetic chapter in our lives. +1 with you Bro!
So true how ridiculous it looks now. And I'm so glad to be done with it. I still have some degree of denial that i did all that but when I read it here, like in your description, i wonder how many times I was that guy. Quit on and thanks for posting!
The nic B drove us to do some crazy and weird shit in order to stay under her spell. Funny how that story unfortunately hits home and I'm glad that is in my rear view.
This is the type of stuff we all need to remember. Do you want to go back to being "that" guy? I sure as hell don't. This post has assured I will be quit all day long.
Thanks brother Minny! Quit on.
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I work in an office building and dipping is both outlawed and completely faux pas. This morning I took a shit in the men's room when someone came in and sat down in the stall next to me. Then I heard the familiar sound of opening a can of dip. Opened and closed in five seconds; the moves of a seasoned pro ninja dipper. Then, complete silence. I finished my business and left, but I'm keeping an eye out for the shoes of the ninja dipper and am going to help him find ktc.
How pathetic is it to spend 15 minutes on a PUBLIC toilet all to "enjoy" a dip? It's so fucking disgusting I can't get my head around it... except that I can, because I've been there. In fact, I've done worse. Digging around in the trash, for starters... skipping out on a Saturday w/ my family to run a phantom chore, bailing on professional gatherings, driving alone when it made no sense, sitting on the john at home for too long... all to serve an addiction that I knew could very likely kill me.
+1 with you badasses today. Quitting is hard, but this freedom is fanfreakingtastic.
Pay it forward! Excellent!
Right on Minny! Yeah, I wasted a lot of time pursuing my fix. Its pretty damned funny thinking back on it. I never thought about it when I was using, but seeing people I know that still dip and how everything they do revolves around that next fix, makes me so thankful that we have closed the door on that pathetic chapter in our lives. +1 with you Bro!
So true how ridiculous it looks now. And I'm so glad to be done with it. I still have some degree of denial that i did all that but when I read it here, like in your description, i wonder how many times I was that guy. Quit on and thanks for posting!
The nic B drove us to do some crazy and weird shit in order to stay under her spell. Funny how that story unfortunately hits home and I'm glad that is in my rear view.
This is the type of stuff we all need to remember. Do you want to go back to being "that" guy? I sure as hell don't. This post has assured I will be quit all day long.
Thanks brother Minny! Quit on.
Well put Minny!
P.S. I am so glad I was never a ninja dipper, putting in a lip in a bathroom stall just made me throw up in my mouth a little.
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I work in an office building and dipping is both outlawed and completely faux pas. This morning I took a shit in the men's room when someone came in and sat down in the stall next to me. Then I heard the familiar sound of opening a can of dip. Opened and closed in five seconds; the moves of a seasoned pro ninja dipper. Then, complete silence. I finished my business and left, but I'm keeping an eye out for the shoes of the ninja dipper and am going to help him find ktc.
How pathetic is it to spend 15 minutes on a PUBLIC toilet all to "enjoy" a dip? It's so fucking disgusting I can't get my head around it... except that I can, because I've been there. In fact, I've done worse. Digging around in the trash, for starters... skipping out on a Saturday w/ my family to run a phantom chore, bailing on professional gatherings, driving alone when it made no sense, sitting on the john at home for too long... all to serve an addiction that I knew could very likely kill me.
+1 with you badasses today. Quitting is hard, but this freedom is fanfreakingtastic.
Pay it forward! Excellent!
Right on Minny! Yeah, I wasted a lot of time pursuing my fix. Its pretty damned funny thinking back on it. I never thought about it when I was using, but seeing people I know that still dip and how everything they do revolves around that next fix, makes me so thankful that we have closed the door on that pathetic chapter in our lives. +1 with you Bro!
So true how ridiculous it looks now. And I'm so glad to be done with it. I still have some degree of denial that i did all that but when I read it here, like in your description, i wonder how many times I was that guy. Quit on and thanks for posting!
The nic B drove us to do some crazy and weird shit in order to stay under her spell. Funny how that story unfortunately hits home and I'm glad that is in my rear view.
This is the type of stuff we all need to remember. Do you want to go back to being "that" guy? I sure as hell don't. This post has assured I will be quit all day long.
Thanks brother Minny! Quit on.
Well put Minny!
P.S. I am so glad I was never a ninja dipper, putting in a lip in a bathroom stall just made me throw up in my mouth a little.
I just love KTC! Today I am full of nerves for no reason. My heart is beating fast. The same feeling I had in Jr. High when I was scheduled to fight someone after school.
The fights were never as bad as the anticipation. Those nerves I had and I am feeling them today. Alcohol and nicotine, especially with my wife flying out this morning sneaked into my mind.
I come to KTC, post roll and the nerves go down and I remember to promise and only worry about today. I read some intro's and I am not alone...there is comfort in knowing that I am feeling and experience what others here are and they fight.
I am fighting now. Come what may....I am quit today.
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Those that know me know that I don't like the idea of "Never Again For Any Reason". For starters, "never again" means forever, and forever is a hard concept to grasp the same way it is impossible to imagine infinity. I also think that NAFAR is the wrong approach for newbies. In the first few days of quit an hour can be long enough let alone a day. The pressure of forever can be too much. I rolled with One Day At A Time and Not Today For Any Reason. After all the only way to eat an elephant is one bite at a time.
Anyway, I'm getting closer to a NAFAR attitude. Why? I never, ever want my kids to touch it.
Never.
I want them to see tobacco for what it is: a highly addictive, life-shortening, expensive, idiotic and selfish drug that is used to generate billions in profits for large corporations through the exploitation and intentional deception of people that have one thing in common: they each only get to be on this earth once.
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Those that know me know that I don't like the idea of "Never Again For Any Reason". For starters, "never again" means forever, and forever is a hard concept to grasp the same way it is impossible to imagine infinity. I also think that NAFAR is the wrong approach for newbies. In the first few days of quit an hour can be long enough let alone a day. The pressure of forever can be too much. I rolled with One Day At A Time and Not Today For Any Reason. After all the only way to eat an elephant is one bite at a time.
Anyway, I'm getting closer to a NAFAR attitude. Why? I never, ever want my kids to touch it.
Never.
I want them to see tobacco for what it is: a highly addictive, life-shortening, expensive, idiotic and selfish drug that is used to generate billions in profits for large corporations through the exploitation and intentional deception of people that have one thing in common: they each only get to be on this earth once.
Funny how I am at a similar place, finally getting it in my head that this shit is a life sucking leach and Never means my boys never try or touch the shit.
x2 Minny!
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Those that know me know that I don't like the idea of "Never Again For Any Reason". For starters, "never again" means forever, and forever is a hard concept to grasp the same way it is impossible to imagine infinity. I also think that NAFAR is the wrong approach for newbies. In the first few days of quit an hour can be long enough let alone a day. The pressure of forever can be too much. I rolled with One Day At A Time and Not Today For Any Reason. After all the only way to eat an elephant is one bite at a time.
Anyway, I'm getting closer to a NAFAR attitude. Why? I never, ever want my kids to touch it.
Never.
I want them to see tobacco for what it is: a highly addictive, life-shortening, expensive, idiotic and selfish drug that is used to generate billions in profits for large corporations through the exploitation and intentional deception of people that have one thing in common: they each only get to be on this earth once.
I hear exactly what you're saying. And it will be nice when you can confidently say "NAFAR", and know truly deep down that it is simply the way it is going to be. And raising children who don't succumb to the evil of tobacco will be extremely gratifying as well. That will be a whole separate fight in itself especially with the way the world is now. We must not let our children fall into this trap. I quit with you Minny.
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Right on Minny I'm with you. I remember when my parents found out I was dipping. A little bit of, "That stuff is no good for you" followed by acceptance. I remember storing dip in my parents freezer when I was a high schooler....anybody remember that craze? I am definitely planning on extending my quit on to all of my kids. Quit with you today.
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NAFAR can be stated in different places some use it for tobacco itself. I specifically use it to define time, I never want to go through withdrawal again and I don't ever want to see a day one next to my name ever. I think for me NAFAE defines time not an action...IDK if that makes sense. They are the same in sense. I am glad that you are getting to the NAFAR side of the house.
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Those that know me know that I don't like the idea of "Never Again For Any Reason". For starters, "never again" means forever, and forever is a hard concept to grasp the same way it is impossible to imagine infinity. I also think that NAFAR is the wrong approach for newbies. In the first few days of quit an hour can be long enough let alone a day. The pressure of forever can be too much. I rolled with One Day At A Time and Not Today For Any Reason. After all the only way to eat an elephant is one bite at a time.
Anyway, I'm getting closer to a NAFAR attitude. Why? I never, ever want my kids to touch it.
Never.
I want them to see tobacco for what it is: a highly addictive, life-shortening, expensive, idiotic and selfish drug that is used to generate billions in profits for large corporations through the exploitation and intentional deception of people that have one thing in common: they each only get to be on this earth once.
I hear exactly what you're saying. And it will be nice when you can confidently say "NAFAR", and know truly deep down that it is simply the way it is going to be. And raising children who don't succumb to the evil of tobacco will be extremely gratifying as well. That will be a whole separate fight in itself especially with the way the world is now. We must not let our children fall into this trap. I quit with you Minny.
Great post Minny. You rock!
Thanks for sharing.
ODAAT, QLFEDD and NAFAR Brother!
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Last night I went to a MN Wild hockey game with some friends and my friend handed me a can of dip. It had a light blue label and the flavor was Clean Mint. Not coincidentally, it was also Listerine Brand dip and the same flavor I had used to rinse my mouth after brushing my teeth. Anyway, I put in a big fat lower, closed the can and heard that familiar *click* as the lid sealed. I grabbed a Diet Mountain Dew bottle and spit, putting the bottle in the built in cup holder in the seat in front of me without even looking. Just like riding a bike, I hadn't forgotten. In fact, quitting wasn't even on my mind. The dip burned and the juice was dark while I watched the game with faceless friends. I stared at the ice as the players rushed past me but I wasn't watching. It was just me and my dip. I took it out of my mouth in one swift motion and dropped it in the DMD bottle; one final cleaning pass with my tongue and a spit; put the cap on the bottle; all done.
We were walking away from the arena and my friend offered to sell his condo in San Diego for $5,000. My wife thought we should see the place first, but I didn't care if it was a tin shack. $5,000 is a steal of a deal. We were on our beach cruisers suddenly when it hit me: I had caved. Panicked, my mind raced. What should I do? Oh my god how could I? What was I thinking? SO close to one year. Man, I am never going to live this down. I need to fess up on KTC and then never go back. I don't think I could stand it to read the comments. Back to day one.
Worst cave dream yet.
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Last night I went to a MN Wild hockey game with some friends and my friend handed me a can of dip. It had a light blue label and the flavor was Clean Mint. Not coincidentally, it was also Listerine Brand dip and the same flavor I had used to rinse my mouth after brushing my teeth. Anyway, I put in a big fat lower, closed the can and heard that familiar *click* as the lid sealed. I grabbed a Diet Mountain Dew bottle and spit, putting the bottle in the built in cup holder in the seat in front of me without even looking. Just like riding a bike, I hadn't forgotten. In fact, quitting wasn't even on my mind. The dip burned and the juice was dark while I watched the game with faceless friends. I stared at the ice as the players rushed past me but I wasn't watching. It was just me and my dip. I took it out of my mouth in one swift motion and dropped it in the DMD bottle; one final cleaning pass with my tongue and a spit; put the cap on the bottle; all done.
We were walking away from the arena and my friend offered to sell his condo in San Diego for $5,000. My wife thought we should see the place first, but I didn't care if it was a tin shack. $5,000 is a steal of a deal. We were on our beach cruisers suddenly when it hit me: I had caved. Panicked, my mind raced. What should I do? Oh my god how could I? What was I thinking? SO close to one year. Man, I am never going to live this down. I need to fess up on KTC and then never go back. I don't think I could stand it to read the comments. Back to day one.
Worst cave dream yet.
Minny.... 'Finger'
I fell for that shit, hook, line and sinker.... I was ready to flip.... not one of our Ducks, not when we are getting ready to celebrate a year together!
Proud to be quit with you brother.
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Last night I went to a MN Wild hockey game with some friends and my friend handed me a can of dip. It had a light blue label and the flavor was Clean Mint. Not coincidentally, it was also Listerine Brand dip and the same flavor I had used to rinse my mouth after brushing my teeth. Anyway, I put in a big fat lower, closed the can and heard that familiar *click* as the lid sealed. I grabbed a Diet Mountain Dew bottle and spit, putting the bottle in the built in cup holder in the seat in front of me without even looking. Just like riding a bike, I hadn't forgotten. In fact, quitting wasn't even on my mind. The dip burned and the juice was dark while I watched the game with faceless friends. I stared at the ice as the players rushed past me but I wasn't watching. It was just me and my dip. I took it out of my mouth in one swift motion and dropped it in the DMD bottle; one final cleaning pass with my tongue and a spit; put the cap on the bottle; all done.
We were walking away from the arena and my friend offered to sell his condo in San Diego for $5,000. My wife thought we should see the place first, but I didn't care if it was a tin shack. $5,000 is a steal of a deal. We were on our beach cruisers suddenly when it hit me: I had caved. Panicked, my mind raced. What should I do? Oh my god how could I? What was I thinking? SO close to one year. Man, I am never going to live this down. I need to fess up on KTC and then never go back. I don't think I could stand it to read the comments. Back to day one.
Worst cave dream yet.
Minny.... 'Finger'
I fell for that shit, hook, line and sinker.... I was ready to flip.... not one of our Ducks, not when we are getting ready to celebrate a year together!
Proud to be quit with you brother.
You Mother fucker Minny! I fell for it too. I guess i should have known...It's not Hockey season!
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Last night I went to a MN Wild hockey game with some friends and my friend handed me a can of dip. It had a light blue label and the flavor was Clean Mint. Not coincidentally, it was also Listerine Brand dip and the same flavor I had used to rinse my mouth after brushing my teeth. Anyway, I put in a big fat lower, closed the can and heard that familiar *click* as the lid sealed. I grabbed a Diet Mountain Dew bottle and spit, putting the bottle in the built in cup holder in the seat in front of me without even looking. Just like riding a bike, I hadn't forgotten. In fact, quitting wasn't even on my mind. The dip burned and the juice was dark while I watched the game with faceless friends. I stared at the ice as the players rushed past me but I wasn't watching. It was just me and my dip. I took it out of my mouth in one swift motion and dropped it in the DMD bottle; one final cleaning pass with my tongue and a spit; put the cap on the bottle; all done.
We were walking away from the arena and my friend offered to sell his condo in San Diego for $5,000. My wife thought we should see the place first, but I didn't care if it was a tin shack. $5,000 is a steal of a deal. We were on our beach cruisers suddenly when it hit me: I had caved. Panicked, my mind raced. What should I do? Oh my god how could I? What was I thinking? SO close to one year. Man, I am never going to live this down. I need to fess up on KTC and then never go back. I don't think I could stand it to read the comments. Back to day one.
Worst cave dream yet.
Minny.... 'Finger'
I fell for that shit, hook, line and sinker.... I was ready to flip.... not one of our Ducks, not when we are getting ready to celebrate a year together!
Proud to be quit with you brother.
You Mother fucker Minny! I fell for it too. I guess i should have known...It's not Hockey season!
I knew it was a dream right away!
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Last night I went to a MN Wild hockey game with some friends and my friend handed me a can of dip. It had a light blue label and the flavor was Clean Mint. Not coincidentally, it was also Listerine Brand dip and the same flavor I had used to rinse my mouth after brushing my teeth. Anyway, I put in a big fat lower, closed the can and heard that familiar *click* as the lid sealed. I grabbed a Diet Mountain Dew bottle and spit, putting the bottle in the built in cup holder in the seat in front of me without even looking. Just like riding a bike, I hadn't forgotten. In fact, quitting wasn't even on my mind. The dip burned and the juice was dark while I watched the game with faceless friends. I stared at the ice as the players rushed past me but I wasn't watching. It was just me and my dip. I took it out of my mouth in one swift motion and dropped it in the DMD bottle; one final cleaning pass with my tongue and a spit; put the cap on the bottle; all done.
We were walking away from the arena and my friend offered to sell his condo in San Diego for $5,000. My wife thought we should see the place first, but I didn't care if it was a tin shack. $5,000 is a steal of a deal. We were on our beach cruisers suddenly when it hit me: I had caved. Panicked, my mind raced. What should I do? Oh my god how could I? What was I thinking? SO close to one year. Man, I am never going to live this down. I need to fess up on KTC and then never go back. I don't think I could stand it to read the comments. Back to day one.
Worst cave dream yet.
Minny.... 'Finger'
I fell for that shit, hook, line and sinker.... I was ready to flip.... not one of our Ducks, not when we are getting ready to celebrate a year together!
Proud to be quit with you brother.
You Mother fucker Minny! I fell for it too. I guess i should have known...It's not Hockey season!
I knew it was a dream right away!
guess I can unload the shotgun and get the gang out of the pickup I don't have an 8 hour road trip...you are still a dick with a 5000 buck tin shed
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Nice one. I figured it was a dream because I was at the River Centre yesterday doing some wireless work. There wasn't shit going on in the X, River Centre or Wilkins.
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Hey Minny 365 days...Every holiday, weekend, weekday, quit! Badass!
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Hey Minny 365 days...Every holiday, weekend, weekeday, quit! Badass!
Holy hell bud.... Nice job! You are winning one day at a time!
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Hey Minny 365 days...Every holiday, weekend, weekeday, quit! Badass!
Holy hell bud.... Nice job! You are winning one day at a time!
Congrats on 1 yr! Keep er Rollin!
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Hey Minny 365 days...Every holiday, weekend, weekeday, quit! Badass!
Holy hell bud.... Nice job! You are winning one day at a time!
Congrats on 1 yr! Keep er Rollin!
Well done. Celebrate as you have earned it. Then continue on...keeping your honor.
Right beside you each and every day,
Congrats
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Hey Minny 365 days...Every holiday, weekend, weekeday, quit! Badass!
Holy hell bud.... Nice job! You are winning one day at a time!
Congrats on 1 yr! Keep er Rollin!
Well done. Celebrate as you have earned it. Then continue on...keeping your honor.
Right beside you each and every day,
Congrats
Awesome work brother! Enjoy your freedom, you earned it!
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Hey Minny 365 days...Every holiday, weekend, weekeday, quit! Badass!
Holy hell bud.... Nice job! You are winning one day at a time!
Congrats on 1 yr! Keep er Rollin!
Well done. Celebrate as you have earned it. Then continue on...keeping your honor.
Right beside you each and every day,
Congrats
Awesome work brother! Enjoy your freedom, you earned it!
Nice job minny.
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Hey Minny 365 days...Every holiday, weekend, weekeday, quit! Badass!
Holy hell bud.... Nice job! You are winning one day at a time!
Congrats on 1 yr! Keep er Rollin!
Well done. Celebrate as you have earned it. Then continue on...keeping your honor.
Right beside you each and every day,
Congrats
Awesome work brother! Enjoy your freedom, you earned it!
Nice job minny.
Congrats on year year of freedom brother.
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Hey Minny 365 days...Every holiday, weekend, weekeday, quit! Badass!
Holy hell bud.... Nice job! You are winning one day at a time!
Congrats on 1 yr! Keep er Rollin!
Well done. Celebrate as you have earned it. Then continue on...keeping your honor.
Right beside you each and every day,
Congrats
Awesome work brother! Enjoy your freedom, you earned it!
Nice job minny.
Congrats on year year of freedom brother.
Nice!!
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Hey Minny 365 days...Every holiday, weekend, weekeday, quit! Badass!
Holy hell bud.... Nice job! You are winning one day at a time!
Congrats on 1 yr! Keep er Rollin!
Well done. Celebrate as you have earned it. Then continue on...keeping your honor.
Right beside you each and every day,
Congrats
Awesome work brother! Enjoy your freedom, you earned it!
Nice job minny.
Congrats on year year of freedom brother.
Nice!!
Alright now I get to say it nice trip around the sun. You have done most things one time dip free keep it up
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Hey Minny 365 days...Every holiday, weekend, weekeday, quit! Badass!
Holy hell bud.... Nice job! You are winning one day at a time!
Congrats on 1 yr! Keep er Rollin!
Well done. Celebrate as you have earned it. Then continue on...keeping your honor.
Right beside you each and every day,
Congrats
Awesome work brother! Enjoy your freedom, you earned it!
Nice job minny.
Congrats on year year of freedom brother.
Nice!!
Alright now I get to say it nice trip around the sun. You have done most things one time dip free keep it up
Congrats brother!
QFQQ Ducks fly together!
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Hey Minny 365 days...Every holiday, weekend, weekeday, quit! Badass!
Holy hell bud.... Nice job! You are winning one day at a time!
Congrats on 1 yr! Keep er Rollin!
Well done. Celebrate as you have earned it. Then continue on...keeping your honor.
Right beside you each and every day,
Congrats
Awesome work brother! Enjoy your freedom, you earned it!
Nice job minny.
Congrats on year year of freedom brother.
Nice!!
Alright now I get to say it nice trip around the sun. You have done most things one time dip free keep it up
Congrats brother!
QFQQ Ducks fly together!
Congrats. Awesome achievement!
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Hey Minny 365 days...Every holiday, weekend, weekeday, quit! Badass!
Holy hell bud.... Nice job! You are winning one day at a time!
Congrats on 1 yr! Keep er Rollin!
Well done. Celebrate as you have earned it. Then continue on...keeping your honor.
Right beside you each and every day,
Congrats
Awesome work brother! Enjoy your freedom, you earned it!
Nice job minny.
Congrats on year year of freedom brother.
Nice!!
Alright now I get to say it nice trip around the sun. You have done most things one time dip free keep it up
Congrats brother!
QFQQ Ducks fly together!
Congrats. Awesome achievement!
Thanks, all!!! This was my first nicotine free year since I was twelve. After dozens of failed attempts this is what works for me: posting roll every day, reading and interacting on KTC, texting quitters and staying in touch, and not making any excuse for just one. Thank YOU.
Caving is a choice.
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Hey Minny 365 days...Every holiday, weekend, weekeday, quit! Badass!
Holy hell bud.... Nice job! You are winning one day at a time!
Congrats on 1 yr! Keep er Rollin!
Well done. Celebrate as you have earned it. Then continue on...keeping your honor.
Right beside you each and every day,
Congrats
Awesome work brother! Enjoy your freedom, you earned it!
Nice job minny.
Congrats on year year of freedom brother.
Nice!!
Alright now I get to say it nice trip around the sun. You have done most things one time dip free keep it up
Congrats brother!
QFQQ Ducks fly together!
Congrats. Awesome achievement!
Thanks, all!!! This was my first nicotine free year since I was twelve. After dozens of failed attempts this is what works for me: posting roll every day, reading and interacting on KTC, texting quitters and staying in touch, and not making any excuse for just one. Thank YOU.
Caving is a choice.
Congrats dude. 1 year is great. It's just the beginning. Well done man.
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Hey Minny 365 days...Every holiday, weekend, weekeday, quit! Badass!
Holy hell bud.... Nice job! You are winning one day at a time!
Congrats on 1 yr! Keep er Rollin!
Well done. Celebrate as you have earned it. Then continue on...keeping your honor.
Right beside you each and every day,
Congrats
Awesome work brother! Enjoy your freedom, you earned it!
Nice job minny.
Congrats on year year of freedom brother.
Nice!!
Alright now I get to say it nice trip around the sun. You have done most things one time dip free keep it up
Congrats brother!
QFQQ Ducks fly together!
Congrats. Awesome achievement!
Thanks, all!!! This was my first nicotine free year since I was twelve. After dozens of failed attempts this is what works for me: posting roll every day, reading and interacting on KTC, texting quitters and staying in touch, and not making any excuse for just one. Thank YOU.
Caving is a choice.
Congrats dude. 1 year is great. It's just the beginning. Well done man.
... Wow, way late to this party 'embarrassed' Congrats brother!
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Hey Minny 365 days...Every holiday, weekend, weekday, quit! Badass!
Awesome job brother!!!!!
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I was turning onto the freeway this morning when I recognized an old sensation - the old nic bitch and her dusty tits. I brushed it aside with ease in a matter of seconds and my thoughts turned to KTC and all you SOBs that got me here. I've been gone so long that hardly anyone here will know my name... I hesitated to post on my intro because I don't post roll any more, but today I posted as a gesture and nod to my quit brothers. I'm also dropping this line for the guy that is on his first days of quitting and might possibly read this. The first day is HARD, and so is the second, the third... it is hard for a long time, but it DOES get easier and then it's automatic. Hang in there and beat that bitch one day at a time. This community was the only thing that ever worked for me. ODAAT, NTFAR, Post Roll 100% for 100 days, QLF.
Minny
Day 906
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I was turning onto the freeway this morning when I recognized an old sensation - the old nic bitch and her dusty tits. I brushed it aside with ease in a matter of seconds and my thoughts turned to KTC and all you SOBs that got me here. I've been gone so long that hardly anyone here will know my name... I hesitated to post on my intro because I don't post roll any more, but today I posted as a gesture and nod to my quit brothers. I'm also dropping this line for the guy that is on his first days of quitting and might possibly read this. The first day is HARD, and so is the second, the third... it is hard for a long time, but it DOES get easier and then it's automatic. Hang in there and beat that bitch one day at a time. This community was the only thing that ever worked for me. ODAAT, NTFAR, Post Roll 100% for 100 days, QLF.
Minny
Day 906
Glad you dropped by Minny. Today is 3 years for me. Unlike you I still need roll and post everyday. I am happy to hear that you are doing well.
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I was turning onto the freeway this morning when I recognized an old sensation - the old nic bitch and her dusty tits. I brushed it aside with ease in a matter of seconds and my thoughts turned to KTC and all you SOBs that got me here. I've been gone so long that hardly anyone here will know my name... I hesitated to post on my intro because I don't post roll any more, but today I posted as a gesture and nod to my quit brothers. I'm also dropping this line for the guy that is on his first days of quitting and might possibly read this. The first day is HARD, and so is the second, the third... it is hard for a long time, but it DOES get easier and then it's automatic. Hang in there and beat that bitch one day at a time. This community was the only thing that ever worked for me. ODAAT, NTFAR, Post Roll 100% for 100 days, QLF.
Minny
Day 906
Glad you dropped by Minny. Today is 3 years for me. Unlike you I still need roll and post everyday. I am happy to hear that you are doing well.
Everyday for me as well. Nice three years IG2H.
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I was turning onto the freeway this morning when I recognized an old sensation - the old nic bitch and her dusty tits. I brushed it aside with ease in a matter of seconds and my thoughts turned to KTC and all you SOBs that got me here. I've been gone so long that hardly anyone here will know my name... I hesitated to post on my intro because I don't post roll any more, but today I posted as a gesture and nod to my quit brothers. I'm also dropping this line for the guy that is on his first days of quitting and might possibly read this. The first day is HARD, and so is the second, the third... it is hard for a long time, but it DOES get easier and then it's automatic. Hang in there and beat that bitch one day at a time. This community was the only thing that ever worked for me. ODAAT, NTFAR, Post Roll 100% for 100 days, QLF.
Minny
Day 906
Glad you dropped by Minny. Today is 3 years for me. Unlike you I still need roll and post everyday. I am happy to hear that you are doing well.
Everyday for me as well. Nice three years IG2H.
Minny, its good to see you on the boards and know that you remain quit. I am glad to see you post roll for two consecutive days. Although I am not a 100% poster any more I still need the accountability that KTC offers daily. However, I will say that it is fantastic that you recognized the bullshit and then came in here to invest in your quit as well as the rest of the Ducks.
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I was turning onto the freeway this morning when I recognized an old sensation - the old nic bitch and her dusty tits. I brushed it aside with ease in a matter of seconds and my thoughts turned to KTC and all you SOBs that got me here. I've been gone so long that hardly anyone here will know my name... I hesitated to post on my intro because I don't post roll any more, but today I posted as a gesture and nod to my quit brothers. I'm also dropping this line for the guy that is on his first days of quitting and might possibly read this. The first day is HARD, and so is the second, the third... it is hard for a long time, but it DOES get easier and then it's automatic. Hang in there and beat that bitch one day at a time. This community was the only thing that ever worked for me. ODAAT, NTFAR, Post Roll 100% for 100 days, QLF.
Minny
Day 906
Glad you dropped by Minny. Today is 3 years for me. Unlike you I still need roll and post everyday. I am happy to hear that you are doing well.
Everyday for me as well. Nice three years IG2H.
Minny, its good to see you on the boards and know that you remain quit. I am glad to see you post roll for two consecutive days. Although I am not a 100% poster any more I still need the accountability that KTC offers daily. However, I will say that it is fantastic that you recognized the bullshit and then came in here to invest in your quit as well as the rest of the Ducks.
Minny! Glad you are still QLF and I still remember you as one bad assed quitter ;)
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Hello, This is my first post.
I started Dipping when I was a Junior in highschool and was going through about 1.5-2 cans per day.
I am on day 3 of no dip. Headaches, moody and agitated.
Any recommendations for an alternative? Besides that fake dip.
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Mountain glad you are here but it appears you have posted in someone else's intro....you are prolly fogged out