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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: ProPhotoMan on August 16, 2016, 03:53:00 PM
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Hello Folks,
I am guessing this is where I am going to start on the website. I am a new quitter on what I am going to call day 1, even though Ginet talked me into quitting last night. I have chewed this nasty crap for 38 years and when I saw the post yesterday about one of your members dying, probably from this crap, it caught my attention. I was saddened by the story and given strength because of his strength and courage.
So, where do I start?
My first name is Joe. I live in Iowa with my wife of 29 years (this November). We have 3 sons, two are married, one has been married twice. Each has two children, making me a grandfather (of course). I play the role of grandpa very well and love it. I am a professional photographer and former Pro Rodeo Photographer. This year became so frustrating with photo thefts and lost sales that I had decided to call off the rest of the rodeo season and just relax at home. After a couple of days relaxing, I decided to no longer pursue the rodeo road and have since quit the rodeo industry. I have some comments on rodeos, but I will come back to that in a bit. I have been a photographer since my junior high days (for real). I am a 100% service connected disabled veteran, injured in 2001, just after 9/11, while training with my unit to be mobilized for the war. In 2002, I was board of physical therapy and lounging around home, so I picked up my old film camera and decided to take some photos. I won two national photography contests that year and became a professional photographer. I own my own studio and shoot portraits, weddings, landscape, nature, equine, motorsports, concerts, and commercial photography. I also do some graphic design. I live just 28 miles from the sprint car capital of the world, Knoxville Raceway, where I have photographed many sprint cars and late models. In 2017 I plan to follow a couple of sprint car series. I love my job as a photographer. I am also a Certified Firefighter I, Certified Fire Service Instructor I, and a former EMT-B. I have a dual MBA in Marketing and Public Administration as well.
Rodeo...oh yeah...I am going to throw my two cents into the ring on this sport for a minute. Rodeo is where I started chewing tobacco when I was 11 years old. Sorry Ginet, my math was off last night. Growing up, both in and around the sport all my life, it sickens me to see kids chewing at such a young age and parents who promote it. I thought I was cool after seeing ads on television from Charlie Daniels and Walt Garrison when I was young and involved with rodeo. To be honest, I am surprised that I am still alive. But, I know God has plans for me. When I finally quit this crap for good, I am going to become an advocate against chewing tobacco in rodeos and other sports involving our young people.
I am a man of faith and of God. Some of you may not like that, some may love it. I know that I can beat this once and for all with my wife, family, God, Ginet, Grat, and the rest of your support. Support means a great deal to me. I know I will have days of highs and lows.
I know the next three days are going to be a bumpy ride. I am prepared. I am using Cowboy Coffee Chew as a substitute. It is simply coffee grinds and honey mixed together with a sweetener. 100% nicotine free and 100% tobacco free. And it tastes great. And it is going to help me kick this habit, while my body is getting rid of the toxins and neuro-toxins. I have never been a quitter at anything I have done...until now. I was a Firefighter/EMT prior ot becoming a professional photographer and while I was in the military. Quit wasn't in my vocabulary, because when I quit, people died! Now the shoe is on the other foot and I have to be a quitter, or I will die; die from tobacco use.
I know I will be in the November 2016 quit group. I love to write (Obviously). Honestly, I don't think this will be that bad of a struggle. With me being a photographer, I will be able to buy more photography equipment and there is a sweet lens that I have been trying to afford. When I reflect at chewing 3 tins a week, at a cost of $6.20/can, that's an extra $967.00 a year in my pocket. I also have the power of prayer and God on my side. I have my cowboy coffee chew. Ginet told me about Smokey Mountain, which is nicotine free and if things become a struggle, I might turn to that. I have folks like Ginet, Grat, and the rest of you to depend on. Primarily, I have myself; my life.
Here's to being a quitter...
ProPhotoMan
Joe M.
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Welcome to KTC Joe!
I am also former military! Thanks for your service. I dipped my entire military career and it carried over into my civilian life; I'm only 38 days into my quit but man can I tell you that everyone here is amazing and is always willing to help. After 10 years of dipping almost 2 cans a day I was terrified to take the plunge; but I'm glad I did. There are guys on this website that can encourage and inspire you with their stories of quit as they have helped with mine. Word of advice: make this quit for yourself; and yourself only. When my girlfriend "talked me into quitting" last year I lasted no more then a few days; resenting her along the process.
Don't underestimate the power of nicotine brother. This may be an easy ride for you, it may be hell. We have all seen a little bit of both...there will be triumphs and hardships along the way; this website is an amazing resource and arms you with the tools and support needed for your journey; but it will only put out what you put into it..... I am glad to see you have alternatives to dip (Smokey mountain was essential for the first week) and you see ready to rock.
I look forward to seeing your progress in he November group. PM me if you have any questions.
P.S - Your quit date is today (even if you have had nicotine this morning...but I'm hoping you haven't because it takes serious commitment here)
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Ginet lures more men in here with those sexy high heels. :wub:
Welcome ProPhotoMan. Welcome to our nightmare. Since you like to write, please use this intro thread of yours as your quit journal. Check out my intro thread if you want a poor example.
If you like to read, check out the links in my signature. They point to some of the things I've learned along the way. There's more, of course, and you will find it.
But, for the here and now - water and cranberry juice (the natural stuff) drink as much as you can stand. Just get through today. You made that promise, right? No nicotine today? If not, post roll and make it, then keep it. If you don't think you can make it through the day, then just get through the next hour. If that's too much, get through the next minute. That's how we do it.
You're not going to want to do this, but trade phone numbers with others in your November group. You will build bonds with them during this 100 day journey. You will enjoy trading texts on occasion. Stay with us. The only way to stay quit is to stay quit. It's that simple. It's friggin' hard!
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Welcome. Post your promise in your quit group. Keep it. It really is that simple.
It's great to have you here, but the price of admission is posting roll.
Stay quit. Refuse to cave.
Thank you for your service.
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No tobacco at all since last night ladies and gents!
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No tobacco at all since last night ladies and gents!
Welcome and congrats on the new found freedom. The amount of time that we spent thinking about chewing, buying chew, the next chew will be astonishing
Read up and get active, and thanks for service
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Pro photo,
Tighten your helmet strap, you are going to war again. You have a great army of veteran quitters here to support you battle. Read their stories and heed there advice. It will help you through the tough days ahead. Post your promise not to use first thing every morning and keep your promise. You have my prayers for the strength you need to quit.
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Hi Buddy. Listen to these people. They have their hands held out to help youÂ….. all you have to do is grab one. I am so very glad to see you here. Remember, only worry about right now, this hour, for today. That's all you can doÂ….control NOW. Be ready to fight. Be ready to rage. ButÂ….also be ready to ask for help from these fine quitters. Post everydayÂ….make that promise to yourself and to everyone here BEFORE the world and life grabs hold of you. Nicotine is so very powerful. Don't allow it to have power over you. YOU can do this. WE will help. This is why we are hereÂ….to pay if forward, to help reinvigorate our own quit, to remember those that helped us and to fuel the fight against Big Tobacco.
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Hello Folks,
I am guessing this is where I am going to start on the website. I am a new quitter on what I am going to call day 1, even though Ginet talked me into quitting last night. I have chewed this nasty crap for 38 years and when I saw the post yesterday about one of your members dying, probably from this crap, it caught my attention. I was saddened by the story and given strength because of his strength and courage.
So, where do I start?
My first name is Joe. I live in Iowa with my wife of 29 years (this November). We have 3 sons, two are married, one has been married twice. Each has two children, making me a grandfather (of course). I play the role of grandpa very well and love it. I am a professional photographer and former Pro Rodeo Photographer. This year became so frustrating with photo thefts and lost sales that I had decided to call off the rest of the rodeo season and just relax at home. After a couple of days relaxing, I decided to no longer pursue the rodeo road and have since quit the rodeo industry. I have some comments on rodeos, but I will come back to that in a bit. I have been a photographer since my junior high days (for real). I am a 100% service connected disabled veteran, injured in 2001, just after 9/11, while training with my unit to be mobilized for the war. In 2002, I was board of physical therapy and lounging around home, so I picked up my old film camera and decided to take some photos. I won two national photography contests that year and became a professional photographer. I own my own studio and shoot portraits, weddings, landscape, nature, equine, motorsports, concerts, and commercial photography. I also do some graphic design. I live just 28 miles from the sprint car capital of the world, Knoxville Raceway, where I have photographed many sprint cars and late models. In 2017 I plan to follow a couple of sprint car series. I love my job as a photographer. I am also a Certified Firefighter I, Certified Fire Service Instructor I, and a former EMT-B. I have a dual MBA in Marketing and Public Administration as well.
Rodeo...oh yeah...I am going to throw my two cents into the ring on this sport for a minute. Rodeo is where I started chewing tobacco when I was 11 years old. Sorry Ginet, my math was off last night. Growing up, both in and around the sport all my life, it sickens me to see kids chewing at such a young age and parents who promote it. I thought I was cool after seeing ads on television from Charlie Daniels and Walt Garrison when I was young and involved with rodeo. To be honest, I am surprised that I am still alive. But, I know God has plans for me. When I finally quit this crap for good, I am going to become an advocate against chewing tobacco in rodeos and other sports involving our young people.
I am a man of faith and of God. Some of you may not like that, some may love it. I know that I can beat this once and for all with my wife, family, God, Ginet, Grat, and the rest of your support. Support means a great deal to me. I know I will have days of highs and lows.
I know the next three days are going to be a bumpy ride. I am prepared. I am using Cowboy Coffee Chew as a substitute. It is simply coffee grinds and honey mixed together with a sweetener. 100% nicotine free and 100% tobacco free. And it tastes great. And it is going to help me kick this habit, while my body is getting rid of the toxins and neuro-toxins. I have never been a quitter at anything I have done...until now. I was a Firefighter/EMT prior ot becoming a professional photographer and while I was in the military. Quit wasn't in my vocabulary, because when I quit, people died! Now the shoe is on the other foot and I have to be a quitter, or I will die; die from tobacco use.
I know I will be in the November 2016 quit group. I love to write (Obviously). Honestly, I don't think this will be that bad of a struggle. With me being a photographer, I will be able to buy more photography equipment and there is a sweet lens that I have been trying to afford. When I reflect at chewing 3 tins a week, at a cost of $6.20/can, that's an extra $967.00 a year in my pocket. I also have the power of prayer and God on my side. I have my cowboy coffee chew. Ginet told me about Smokey Mountain, which is nicotine free and if things become a struggle, I might turn to that. I have folks like Ginet, Grat, and the rest of you to depend on. Primarily, I have myself; my life.
Here's to being a quitter...
ProPhotoMan
Joe M.
Â…atta baby!
Math is overrated :)
Here is something I want you to remember. It has helped me more than anything else I have learned here.
"One is too many. One thousand is never enough" This is because I am an addict.
KEEP GOING. FIGHT. YOU ARE WINNING!
~Lady G
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Day number 2 of being a quitter....and it feels great!
It was mentioned by another member that since I like to write, to use this as a journal. I think this is a great idea and I am going to post to this each day.
I mentioned this is day number two of being tobacco free. My first day went far better than planned and in fact much easier than anticipated. I had little to zero withdraws. The only time I had withdraws was late last night. Water and Cowboy Coffee Chew has been my saving grace, although I feel like I pigged out yesterday with food. I don't need that as I am trying to lose weight. Yep, eating is going to be the downfall. But, I will curb my appetite as I continue this road to freedom of no tobacco.
Prayer helps me a lot. Having faith in my Lord helps a ton! I believe the Lord is on my side as I am going through this roller coaster ride of being tobacco free. He can be on your side as well! Do you believe? I SAID DO YOU BELIEVE? Do you have a relationship with Jesus? If not, pray! Bow to your knees and... Ask Him to help you to be tobacco free. Ask Him to be in your life. Ask Him to forgive your sins. Your body is a temple of God. My body is a temple of God. We have chosen to destroy our bodies (God's Temple) by introducing this junk they call tobacco! Why?
Tobacco isn't cool! Wait! Say what? I thought I was impressing my best friend when he offered me that first dip at 11 years old? I thought I had to be cool like him to outsmart all the school teachers and administrators as I carried my Skoal can around in my boot? I thought I was cool because I chewed through school without getting caught. spitting on the carpeted floor when the teachers back was turned; rubbing it in with my boot to hide the evidence! oh and then there was commercial after commercial after commercial from those I looked up to on television...you know (if you're as old as I am)...Charlie Daniels, Walt Garrison, Carlton Fisk, Shep Messing... for those of you old enough, you remember. These guys were cool! They were Cowboys, Baseball Players, Country Singers, Soccer Players....yeah, they were cool, but not because of their commercials.
So yeah...Day #2... No tobacco...
I was researching YouTube for those Smokeless Tobacco commercials and ran across some Duck Dynasty clips...those boys are my favorites! But, they dip smokeless tobacco. I didn't know that until seeing those clips. And the commercials from the 70's I talked about earlier...dadgummit, they messed with my mind a little bit. They made me want to take a trip to the local gas station and buy some dip. Sorry mind, my heart is stronger! I'm not gonna be a dipper any more. THAT IS WHAT MAKES ME COOL! THAT IS WHAT MAKES YOU COOL!
My wife doesn't even know that I have made the decision to quit dipping. I don't think she noticed that I wasn't chewing tobacco yesterday (Day 1). I will see if she notices today.
That's all for now. It is Day #2 and I am cooler than I was yesterday for being a quitter!
ProPhotoMan
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Day number 2 of being a quitter....and it feels great!
It was mentioned by another member that since I like to write, to use this as a journal. I think this is a great idea and I am going to post to this each day.
I mentioned this is day number two of being tobacco free. My first day went far better than planned and in fact much easier than anticipated. I had little to zero withdraws. The only time I had withdraws was late last night. Water and Cowboy Coffee Chew has been my saving grace, although I feel like I pigged out yesterday with food. I don't need that as I am trying to lose weight. Yep, eating is going to be the downfall. But, I will curb my appetite as I continue this road to freedom of no tobacco.
Prayer helps me a lot. Having faith in my Lord helps a ton! I believe the Lord is on my side as I am going through this roller coaster ride of being tobacco free. He can be on your side as well! Do you believe? I SAID DO YOU BELIEVE? Do you have a relationship with Jesus? If not, pray! Bow to your knees and... Ask Him to help you to be tobacco free. Ask Him to be in your life. Ask Him to forgive your sins. Your body is a temple of God. My body is a temple of God. We have chosen to destroy our bodies (God's Temple) by introducing this junk they call tobacco! Why?
Tobacco isn't cool! Wait! Say what? I thought I was impressing my best friend when he offered me that first dip at 11 years old? I thought I had to be cool like him to outsmart all the school teachers and administrators as I carried my Skoal can around in my boot? I thought I was cool because I chewed through school without getting caught. spitting on the carpeted floor when the teachers back was turned; rubbing it in with my boot to hide the evidence! oh and then there was commercial after commercial after commercial from those I looked up to on television...you know (if you're as old as I am)...Charlie Daniels, Walt Garrison, Carlton Fisk, Shep Messing... for those of you old enough, you remember. These guys were cool! They were Cowboys, Baseball Players, Country Singers, Soccer Players....yeah, they were cool, but not because of their commercials.
So yeah...Day #2... No tobacco...
I was researching YouTube for those Smokeless Tobacco commercials and ran across some Duck Dynasty clips...those boys are my favorites! But, they dip smokeless tobacco. I didn't know that until seeing those clips. And the commercials from the 70's I talked about earlier...dadgummit, they messed with my mind a little bit. They made me want to take a trip to the local gas station and buy some dip. Sorry mind, my heart is stronger! I'm not gonna be a dipper any more. THAT IS WHAT MAKES ME COOL! THAT IS WHAT MAKES YOU COOL!
My wife doesn't even know that I have made the decision to quit dipping. I don't think she noticed that I wasn't chewing tobacco yesterday (Day 1). I will see if she notices today.
That's all for now. It is Day #2 and I am cooler than I was yesterday for being a quitter!
ProPhotoMan
Congrats, bud, and nice work. Don't worry about the eating. Do what you have to do. You can always lose the weight once you get your body and mind rewired. I actually put on 30 lbs. in about 6 months, but now I've lost 40 lbs. I came back meaner and leaner! Your quit is and should be your top priority early on.
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Hey man! Welcome aboard! There is NOTHING that would make Todd Garcia happier today than reading your post. I'm headed back to KC from the Dakotas right now and will be driving through Iowa. What part do you live in?
You'll never regret quitting.
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Day number 2 of being a quitter....and it feels great!
It was mentioned by another member that since I like to write, to use this as a journal. I think this is a great idea and I am going to post to this each day.
I mentioned this is day number two of being tobacco free. My first day went far better than planned and in fact much easier than anticipated. I had little to zero withdraws. The only time I had withdraws was late last night. Water and Cowboy Coffee Chew has been my saving grace, although I feel like I pigged out yesterday with food. I don't need that as I am trying to lose weight. Yep, eating is going to be the downfall. But, I will curb my appetite as I continue this road to freedom of no tobacco.
Prayer helps me a lot. Having faith in my Lord helps a ton! I believe the Lord is on my side as I am going through this roller coaster ride of being tobacco free. He can be on your side as well! Do you believe? I SAID DO YOU BELIEVE? Do you have a relationship with Jesus? If not, pray! Bow to your knees and... Ask Him to help you to be tobacco free. Ask Him to be in your life. Ask Him to forgive your sins. Your body is a temple of God. My body is a temple of God. We have chosen to destroy our bodies (God's Temple) by introducing this junk they call tobacco! Why?
Tobacco isn't cool! Wait! Say what? I thought I was impressing my best friend when he offered me that first dip at 11 years old? I thought I had to be cool like him to outsmart all the school teachers and administrators as I carried my Skoal can around in my boot? I thought I was cool because I chewed through school without getting caught. spitting on the carpeted floor when the teachers back was turned; rubbing it in with my boot to hide the evidence! oh and then there was commercial after commercial after commercial from those I looked up to on television...you know (if you're as old as I am)...Charlie Daniels, Walt Garrison, Carlton Fisk, Shep Messing... for those of you old enough, you remember. These guys were cool! They were Cowboys, Baseball Players, Country Singers, Soccer Players....yeah, they were cool, but not because of their commercials.
So yeah...Day #2... No tobacco...
I was researching YouTube for those Smokeless Tobacco commercials and ran across some Duck Dynasty clips...those boys are my favorites! But, they dip smokeless tobacco. I didn't know that until seeing those clips. And the commercials from the 70's I talked about earlier...dadgummit, they messed with my mind a little bit. They made me want to take a trip to the local gas station and buy some dip. Sorry mind, my heart is stronger! I'm not gonna be a dipper any more. THAT IS WHAT MAKES ME COOL! THAT IS WHAT MAKES YOU COOL!
My wife doesn't even know that I have made the decision to quit dipping. I don't think she noticed that I wasn't chewing tobacco yesterday (Day 1). I will see if she notices today.
That's all for now. It is Day #2 and I am cooler than I was yesterday for being a quitter!
ProPhotoMan
Congrats, bud, and nice work. Don't worry about the eating. Do what you have to do. You can always lose the weight once you get your body and mind rewired. I actually put on 30 lbs. in about 6 months, but now I've lost 40 lbs. I came back meaner and leaner! Your quit is and should be your top priority early on.
Nice job Joe. When you tell your wife, you will add yet another layer of accountability. You have to quit for you.....no one else. She can get help here too. Other spouses do. Let me know if you want that info.
About the food thing......let me just keep giving you some honesty..... So what if you gain some weight. It's gonna be easier to lose 20 pounds than it will be to lose your jaw. Eat the food. Drink water. Do something....walk, run, push-ups....something. YOU ARE WINNING.
Welcome to day TWO......THAT IS HUGE!
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I am in SE Iowa, Oskaloosa, Iowa.
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Hey man! Welcome aboard! There is NOTHING that would make Todd Garcia happier today than reading your post. I'm headed back to KC from the Dakotas right now and will be driving through Iowa. What part do you live in?
You'll never regret quitting.
SE Iowa. Oskaloosa
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Hey man! Welcome aboard! There is NOTHING that would make Todd Garcia happier today than reading your post. I'm headed back to KC from the Dakotas right now and will be driving through Iowa. What part do you live in?
You'll never regret quitting.
SE Iowa. Oskaloosa
Ill catch you another time, I'm driving on the west side. I'll send you my phone number in a pm. Please send me a text back.
What you are feeling now will pass. It will get a LOT better. If I can do this, you can!
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"Just a pinch between your cheek and gum". -- damn. Hadn't thought about those commercials all through Monday Night Football in ages. Glad to see your quit!
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Joe,
So thankful that the Facebook post about Todd caught your attention. Even more thankful that you responded to that post by both reaching out and also taking action. I have faith in your Quit already by the positive direction you have taken. Great job on getting your Intro done and posting your Day 1 and now your Day 2. My apologies on my delay of getting in here in your Intro. I too am a Firefighter. 23 years. On duty today and its been one of those days. Rrrr. Well you and I have not only FF'ing in common but also we are multi decade addicts. 35 years here. I was gathering recycle bottles and selling in elementary school to buy Happy Days snuff. Not everyone in here is old enough to recognize that brand name. LOL. But like I told you on FB, don't hold on to that length of time as an addict and give that any control over you. The past is the past. Your future is posting a Day 3 tomorrow.
So this is how this works. When someone says "PM" me. Do it. Hell, PM people that don't even say that. PM everyone in your Quit Group. Get to know them. Get phone numbers. Send texts all day. Turn your phone into a pocket vibrator. So much that people start wondering what the hell your smiling at. Some will know. Most will not. Those are your Quit buddies going through the suck with you. Here we Quit together. Those that build a strong circle of support around them are the ones that succeed. Those that go at it alone usually don't. Click on folks names and that's where the PM function is. In their profile. Look in the top right on any page and you will see "Inbox". That's where you'll see folks messages back to you. Next, quit watching TV at night. Get on the computer and cruise all over the KTC site. Read others intros. Read HOF speeches. Get into Chat. You will pick up bits of wisdom. You find that you share many things with folks here. Same struggles. Same doubts. Same fears. This walk of freedom has many aspects to it. Todays struggle changes. Addiction will come at you in different ways. Addiction wants you to complicate this process. But it always come back down to the simplicity of "Today". Trying to wrap the mind around being Quit forever is too much to grasp. So don't attempt it. Its just for today. Then wake up in the morning. Make your promise for the day and then post it.
As I'm sure your aware of by now, being in the November group means everyone in your group will achieve Hall of Fame in November. That means you've been Quit for 100 days. Its a carrot. Its that first goal of achievement. And its an awesome time of celebration. Its designed to establish and get rooted into your daily life the proper habit of a daily quit. You'll be there soon. Cant wait to celebrate that accomplishment with you.
And hey, don't be too distracted by Ginet's beauty or high heels. She's one Bad Ass Quitter and is one of the few survivors that are still standing in April 14. cowboy
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Hey man,how's it going?
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Hey man,how's it going?
Day 3
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Hey man,how's it going?
Day 3
72 hrs.
Nicotine is officially cleansed from your body.
You. Are. Clean.
However... our decades of masking it all with a chew is the hardest thing to hurdle over. Own your decision bro. Get involved and stay involved. It works.
Rock on...
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Hey man,how's it going?
Day 3
72 hrs.
Nicotine is officially cleansed from your body.
You. Are. Clean.
However... our decades of masking it all with a chew is the hardest thing to hurdle over. Own your decision bro. Get involved and stay involved. It works.
Rock on...
One day at a time, brother.
Post roll, keep your word.
You will never have to relive the last 3 days. Nicotine is now out of your body. The rewiring of your mind is beginning - it won't be a cakewalk, but you can do this. You've got a bunch of bad asses lined up to help you; you aren't alone in this.
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Hey man,how's it going?
Day 3
72 hrs.
Nicotine is officially cleansed from your body.
You. Are. Clean.
However... our decades of masking it all with a chew is the hardest thing to hurdle over. Own your decision bro. Get involved and stay involved. It works.
Rock on...
One day at a time, brother.
Post roll, keep your word.
You will never have to relive the last 3 days. Nicotine is now out of your body. The rewiring of your mind is beginning - it won't be a cakewalk, but you can do this. You've got a bunch of bad asses lined up to help you; you aren't alone in this.
POST ROLL. It ain't over son.
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Hey man,how's it going?
Day 3
72 hrs.
Nicotine is officially cleansed from your body.
You. Are. Clean.
However... our decades of masking it all with a chew is the hardest thing to hurdle over. Own your decision bro. Get involved and stay involved. It works.
Rock on...
One day at a time, brother.
Post roll, keep your word.
You will never have to relive the last 3 days. Nicotine is now out of your body. The rewiring of your mind is beginning - it won't be a cakewalk, but you can do this. You've got a bunch of bad asses lined up to help you; you aren't alone in this.
POST ROLL. It ain't over son.
Man, you've been given the answers. You now know how to win. We want you to win so badly... heed our advice.
You can win, or you can lose. Losing is not fun. Winning is.
Don't throw 3 days of win away.
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SLAMS HEAD INTO WALLÂ…Â….FU NICOTINEÂ…..
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Everyone has it within themselves to be able to Quit. Sadly, few find where that Quit ability lies within them.
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This looked like a great quit story. Quitting has to be done every single day. I hope you are OK tonight brother.
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I am requesting an admin to please delete my account. I have posted reasons why in other areas of this forum. I am 6 days into my quit and doing very well. I have no withdraws, no urges, no mood swings, and feeling awesome. However, I will not tolerate one of your members messaging me, cussing at me, calling me names, calling me a hypocrite by telling me that God isn't real or God won't help me in my steps to being nicotine free. Being a Christian, I was appalled at his choice of words and really taken back. I wish to be permanently removed from KTC and have my profile completed deleted, since I cannot do it myself. Please do this as soon as possible.
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I am requesting an admin to please delete my account. I have posted reasons why in other areas of this forum. I am 6 days into my quit and doing very well. I have no withdraws, no urges, no mood swings, and feeling awesome. However, I will not tolerate one of your members messaging me, cussing at me, calling me names, calling me a hypocrite by telling me that God isn't real or God won't help me in my steps to being nicotine free. Being a Christian, I was appalled at his choice of words and really taken back. I wish to be permanently removed from KTC and have my profile completed deleted, since I cannot do it myself. Please do this as soon as possible.
ok need to speak up as someone who has seen quite a bit in over 4 years as to what has happened from afar and what all is capable at this site.
1 - this site does entail a brutal honesty when is comes to some. It tells the truth by the living example of those who have made it, an those who did make it be still paid the ultimate price with their own lives. It also has show what can happen when the lessons that have been tried to teach each person are not followed (as they return with a new day 1) (***note this is not the rules but the lessons).
2 - there are examples as you go back where even I say that lines get crossed in the common decency. Those examples include personal attacks against family members (wives, children), and I do have to say this case an attack against a person's religion. This is all individual based and not as a rule for this site (well at least I hope not as I never saw it written).
the grey part comes when these 2 get oh so very close to merging together. so people need to be careful.
I can only hope that PPM you can discern that the fault of one or two does not represent the whole, as in only a week, there is no way that the mind and body can re-construct itself in such a quick time (it is humanly impossible). And the lessons to learn (the how to deal with life circumstances in the absence of nicotine), are so great that one needs to learn when they want to quit.
its an individual decision but can lead to the education of many
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Differences aside, Im glad to see that you are still here in some fashion. And I hope that you will remain. Like I told you before, this is a horrific and terrible addiction. And I wish only the best for you. My style of accountability doesn't set with you and so Ill offer this up to you. If you will remain, I promise not to contact you are offer any accountability to you. Unless you were to ask. Please continue to post and reap the benefits extended to you here in KTC. You know your way around already and are perfectly able to communicate with folks in your quit group and build a network of support. I hope that you will do this. When I shared that I spent 35 years as an addict praying for change, and that it didn't happen, that was no slight against God. It was only saying that I found that God wanted me to do it on my own. And that He knew that I was able to do it. And that change began when I found KTC and drank the kool aide. I gave it all I had. And it has worked. It will work for you as well. Im am now out of here. Never to bother you again. Hope you stick around.
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Differences aside, Im glad to see that you are still here in some fashion. And I hope that you will remain. Like I told you before, this is a horrific and terrible addiction. And I wish only the best for you. My style of accountability doesn't set with you and so Ill offer this up to you. If you will remain, I promise not to contact you are offer any accountability to you. Unless you were to ask. Please continue to post and reap the benefits extended to you here in KTC. You know your way around already and are perfectly able to communicate with folks in your quit group and build a network of support. I hope that you will do this. When I shared that I spent 35 years as an addict praying for change, and that it didn't happen, that was no slight against God. It was only saying that I found that God wanted me to do it on my own. And that He knew that I was able to do it. And that change began when I found KTC and drank the kool aide. I gave it all I had. And it has worked. It will work for you as well. Im am now out of here. Never to bother you again. Hope you stick around.
Take what you need and Leave the rest. You will need help later! Stay
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Differences aside, Im glad to see that you are still here in some fashion. And I hope that you will remain. Like I told you before, this is a horrific and terrible addiction. And I wish only the best for you. My style of accountability doesn't set with you and so Ill offer this up to you. If you will remain, I promise not to contact you are offer any accountability to you. Unless you were to ask. Please continue to post and reap the benefits extended to you here in KTC. You know your way around already and are perfectly able to communicate with folks in your quit group and build a network of support. I hope that you will do this. When I shared that I spent 35 years as an addict praying for change, and that it didn't happen, that was no slight against God. It was only saying that I found that God wanted me to do it on my own. And that He knew that I was able to do it. And that change began when I found KTC and drank the kool aide. I gave it all I had. And it has worked. It will work for you as well. Im am now out of here. Never to bother you again. Hope you stick around.
Take what you need and Leave the rest. You will need help later! Stay
Anyone looking at this bonehead thread right now needs to know one thing. Gdubya is a salt of the earth type of guy. I trusted him with my quit a long time ago and if you want good advice you can certainly get it from him. I've seen this crap come through here before and that is all it is...crap. Trying to be positive I hope this guy realizes what he's throwing away but good riddance to come across like he's the victim here...
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After thinking long and hard on this, I'm a God fearing man, definitely not a holy roller. I work side by side with pretty much heatherns everyday. Do I judge them,no it's not my place. They know how I feel and what I believe in, they respect me for the most part but I understand everyone is different so I say prayers for them regularly. I said all of this to say I see a lot of stuff everywhere in the world I disagree with but you must live your life. It's no different here on Ktc, you will read some really great stories of life and trials and then you will read pure crap but you don't have to like everything, God created us all different or it would have been a boring world. GDubya is a great guy. If he said things you didn't like so what, you run away from everything you don't like? If you're such a devoted Christian you should pray for him instead. This my friend, Ktc is God given and believe you me everyone in your Church is not perfect. I hope you make sense of this and maybe see a chance to witness to some here , my bible teaches me to go into homes or other not so fitting places and witness to the sinners, you ever think this may be why you found this place? Sorry for the sermon and thanks GDubya for all you do for us here! Quitters gonna keep quitting!
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I'm still looking for the magic that cures someone on day 6. OK, God could probably pull that one off but I'm not sure why he would. If he does it for some I really wish he would have done it for me. :P
Quitting, like anything else takes work. Posting roll every day is work, even though it is a blip on the radar when compared to dragging your fingers through that can of death several times a day. I think the whole point here is that missing roll isn't cool. There are folks here who really care that you get on roll every day - because we care that you are still quit. Make a promise and keep your promise. It is so simple.
Admins, please don't delete this thread. Future quitters might learn from it.
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I've been a pastor, music minister/director for 25 years.
I love this place...
Is it possible that God led you to this place as His answer to healing/dealing with your addiction?
Don't throw it back in His face...
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I've been a pastor, music minister/director for 25 years.
I love this place...
Is it possible that God led you to this place as His answer to healing/dealing with your addiction?
Don't throw it back in His face...
My thoughts exactly preacher!
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I've been a pastor, music minister/director for 25 years.
I love this place...
Is it possible that God led you to this place as His answer to healing/dealing with your addiction?
Don't throw it back in His face...
My thoughts exactly preacher!
I have reached out to him. I agree with all your sentiments. I have been chatting with him for a while. I sent him a lengthy PM basically telling him we are not the enemy here and encouraging him to get off his soapbox and accept who we are. I told him we are his best chance of quitting his lifelong addiction/habit. I feel the ball's in his court now. I truly hope he sees the light and changes his MOA going forward. I used to be a borderline professional photographer in the past and feel i can relate to him at least somewhat. Time will tell.
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I've been a pastor, music minister/director for 25 years.
I love this place...
Is it possible that God led you to this place as His answer to healing/dealing with your addiction?
Don't throw it back in His face...
My thoughts exactly preacher!
I have reached out to him. I agree with all your sentiments. I have been chatting with him for a while. I sent him a lengthy PM basically telling him we are not the enemy here and encouraging him to get off his soapbox and accept who we are. I told him we are his best chance of quitting his lifelong addiction/habit. I feel the ball's in his court now. I truly hope he sees the light and changes his MOA going forward. I used to be a borderline professional photographer in the past and feel i can relate to him at least somewhat. Time will tell.
Hebrews 12 4:13
All of the struggle and challenge we face in quitting.
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I've been a pastor, music minister/director for 25 years.
I love this place...
Is it possible that God led you to this place as His answer to healing/dealing with your addiction?
Don't throw it back in His face...
My thoughts exactly preacher!
I have reached out to him. I agree with all your sentiments. I have been chatting with him for a while. I sent him a lengthy PM basically telling him we are not the enemy here and encouraging him to get off his soapbox and accept who we are. I told him we are his best chance of quitting his lifelong addiction/habit. I feel the ball's in his court now. I truly hope he sees the light and changes his MOA going forward. I used to be a borderline professional photographer in the past and feel i can relate to him at least somewhat. Time will tell.
Hebrews 12 4:13
All of the struggle and challenge we face in quitting.
This whole thing is sad.
Like most of us in this thread, I tried everything... Everything to quit over 2+ decades. Then I found this place. Imagine throwing away the only thing that works?
Decades of losing. What a shame.
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I've been a pastor, music minister/director for 25 years.
I love this place...
Is it possible that God led you to this place as His answer to healing/dealing with your addiction?
Don't throw it back in His face...
My thoughts exactly preacher!
I have reached out to him. I agree with all your sentiments. I have been chatting with him for a while. I sent him a lengthy PM basically telling him we are not the enemy here and encouraging him to get off his soapbox and accept who we are. I told him we are his best chance of quitting his lifelong addiction/habit. I feel the ball's in his court now. I truly hope he sees the light and changes his MOA going forward. I used to be a borderline professional photographer in the past and feel i can relate to him at least somewhat. Time will tell.
Hebrews 12 4:13
All of the struggle and challenge we face in quitting.
This whole thing is sad.
Like most of us in this thread, I tried everything... Everything to quit over 2+ decades. Then I found this place. Imagine throwing away the only thing that works?
Decades of losing. What a shame.
I 100% believe God led me here. Nothing I ever did on my own worked. My faith is stronger because of it. If someone tells me otherwise, they can go pound salt. No skin off my back. Live and let live...unless it's a spider, then all bets are off.
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Differences aside, Im glad to see that you are still here in some fashion. And I hope that you will remain. Like I told you before, this is a horrific and terrible addiction. And I wish only the best for you. My style of accountability doesn't set with you and so Ill offer this up to you. If you will remain, I promise not to contact you are offer any accountability to you. Unless you were to ask. Please continue to post and reap the benefits extended to you here in KTC. You know your way around already and are perfectly able to communicate with folks in your quit group and build a network of support. I hope that you will do this. When I shared that I spent 35 years as an addict praying for change, and that it didn't happen, that was no slight against God. It was only saying that I found that God wanted me to do it on my own. And that He knew that I was able to do it. And that change began when I found KTC and drank the kool aide. I gave it all I had. And it has worked. It will work for you as well. Im am now out of here. Never to bother you again. Hope you stick around.
Take what you need and Leave the rest. You will need help later! Stay
Anyone looking at this bonehead thread right now needs to know one thing. Gdubya is a salt of the earth type of guy. I trusted him with my quit a long time ago and if you want good advice you can certainly get it from him. I've seen this crap come through here before and that is all it is...crap. Trying to be positive I hope this guy realizes what he's throwing away but good riddance to come across like he's the victim here...
And you're no better than him with you're name calling. It really shows y'alls maturity.
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Anyone looking at this bonehead thread right now needs to know one thing. Gdubya is a salt of the earth type of guy. I trusted him with my quit a long time ago and if you want good advice you can certainly get it from him. I've seen this crap come through here before and that is all it is...crap. Trying to be positive I hope this guy realizes what he's throwing away but good riddance to come across like he's the victim here...
And you're no better than him with you're name calling. It really shows y'alls maturity.
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Anyone looking at this bonehead thread right now needs to know one thing. Gdubya is a salt of the earth type of guy. I trusted him with my quit a long time ago and if you want good advice you can certainly get it from him. I've seen this crap come through here before and that is all it is...crap. Trying to be positive I hope this guy realizes what he's throwing away but good riddance to come across like he's the victim here...
And you're no better than him with you're name calling. It really shows y'alls maturity.
Dude, I know it can be difficult. Try to look past the name calling and other bullshit.
The bottom line is that this place works. And if you walk away because you got offended by some strangers on the Internet, you're throwing away an AWESOME resource that is the reason every here amounts to hundreds of years of quit.
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Seems like everyone on this board has bent over backwards for you. Yet all you have given in return are insults and blame. Actually, I've not seen one Godly attribute out of you since you have walked in the house of Quit. You've been offered friendship, accountability, forgiveness, understanding, and quite a bit of long suffering. And still nothing in return from you but hatefullness and self righteousness. Personally, by your actions I would have never even suspected you as a man of Faith. We are all here to Quit. Why are you here? Man up and decide.
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Seems like everyone on this board has bent over backwards for you. Yet all you have given in return are insults and blame. Actually, I've not seen one Godly attribute out of you since you have walked in the house of Quit. You've been offered friendship, accountability, forgiveness, understanding, and quite a bit of long suffering. And still nothing in return from you but hatefullness and self righteousness. Personally, by your actions I would have never even suspected you as a man of Faith. We are all here to Quit. Why are you here? Man up and decide.
Hey Joe. Maybe God helped you by making sure you would read that post about Todd and have me see it along with some others. We don't pick how he speaks to us or what he plans for us. Maybe he sent us......
Stop looking at the words.....don't focus on them......focus on the message, the lesson, the advise that we all give....you will begin to feel the passion we have for staying quit, keeping you quit, and never forgetting that we are addicts.
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This place works once you realize that leaving isn't the answer.
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Hey man, I see that you blocked me on Facebook messenger. You want blocked from KTC, you're blocking any sort of help from those of us that know how to win, so the best I can offer you is this... Good luck.
I hope you come back and see this place for what it is. There is a whole lotta good here and just a little bad. Take what you need leave the rest.
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Self righteous B.S.
"Clean My Wounds" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyxO37Zj4FQ)
I see the world through bloodshot eyes
Streets filled with blood from distant lies.
The dogs of war never compromise,
No real time for rearranging.
"Help me Jesus, help me clean my wounds"
He said he cannot heal that kind.
Bleeding soul becomes a bitter mind.
He said it happens every time (Knock it down)
And that's how the story goes (Knock it down)
In the land of a thousand no's (Knock it down)
I'm all over you in time my mind is changing.
Knock it down
Black on black gives me a heart attack
And the silence makes it deadly.
Some choose to kill with simple will.
I've seen them fall fast and steady.
"Help me Jesus, help me clean my wounds"
He said he cannot heal that kind.
Bleeding soul becomes a bitter mind.
He said it happens every time (Knock it down)
And that's how the story goes (Knock it down)
In the land of a thousand no's (Knock it down)
I'm all over you in time my mind is changing.
Twist of fate won't give me a break
And myself, I'm slow and tired.
I've got to rise with these bloodshot eyes
But I keep falling when I'm higher.
"Help me Jesus, help me clean my wounds"
He said he cannot heal that kind.
Bleeding soul becomes a bitter mind.
He said it happens every time (Knock it down)
And that's how the story goes (Knock it down)
In the land of a thousand no's (Knock it down)
We are bleeding sins and our sins are always fadin'
Oh fadin', oh fadin', oh fadin'
Oh, knock it down, knock it down
Oh, knock it down, knock it down
Oh, knock it down, knock it down
Oh, knock it down
Written by Pepper Keenan • Copyright © Sony/ATV Music Publishing LLC
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So glad to see you back, Joe!
Nicotine is a wicked monster. But you can win. Winning as a team is a whole lot easier.
Glad to be a part of your team!
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So glad to see you back, Joe!
Nicotine is a wicked monster. But you can win. Winning as a team is a whole lot easier.
Glad to be a part of your team!
2x
well done PPM - and agree with W2W statement. Recognize and realize what you have just gone through with this and use it as a learning experience. As your mind gets healthy from not having the poison in it, the reaction you had was probably enhanced by that point, made you not see the large picture at first.
What was most likely (and confirmed) as just a helping hand reaching out was mistakenly heard as an attack, so your body and mind went into that reaction mode, the fight or flight response that is what we all used to immediately go to, and following that used to be throwing in a dip to settle down. But now without that, while in the process of healing we need to learn those steps to take to get past that immediate point, to delay that reaction and see that larger picture of the many milestones that we will live without having a plant controlling us.
again, never forget this, and find what and who you can to always stand side by side as you get through these days.
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I learned a long time ago that not everyone here gets along, but we are all quit. My advice? The "ignore user" button works very, very well!
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Can a mod merge these intros please?
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Can a mod merge these intros please?
;)
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Hey, I see that you were influenced by the Walt Garrison commercials! Just a pinch between your cheek and gums and relax.
Sounds like you are close to my age.
I am 60 and on day 346 of my quit.
Let us know if you are still with the program.
Everybody is here to keep up their quit and to help others do the same.
I quit with you today.
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Hey Joe! Keep going. Quit for today. U
Quit for you!!
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with all that help and you caved yesterday all these guys who stuck up for you and offered support.
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Sometimes God gives us the wisdom and know how to do things but we still need to be willing to accept help from others! Damn......just.......Damn!
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Pouring your self out into someone seems like enough. But sometimes it isn't. Hope he turns around and sees clearly what is going on here.
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I wish I could say I'm surprised. I'm not trying to beat PPM up here. But ealy quit folks recognize this for what it is. This guy was planning this cave all along. Huge amount of people were reaching out to help him and he focused on some language he didn't like and wanted his account deleted. That is an example of a planned cave. He did come back but he didn't use the tools available to him. Life is hard. We have to learn to deal with it without nicotine. I hope he finds his way back in here but he is obviously not ready to quit yet.
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Pathetic.
All that expended energy and it ends with this dude being an absolute pussy.
I'm sick of all the chances we afford people anymore. Make your decision... man up... own it... Quit.
Once and done.
Be bigger than the can... be a man.
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A butterfly got his wings