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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: txtaco1 on October 18, 2014, 08:41:00 AM
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Morning everyone,
My name is Jason and I've been a slave to that nic-bitch for longer than I can remember. Honestly, I believe I was around 12 yrs old when I started using Hawkins. I quickly moved to Copenhagen and can remember dipping in class in Jr. High. At some point in my 20's I quit for about 1.5 yrs. One morning I just woke up and said "I'm done" and got the last dip in a can and quit. It wasn't that hard I recall because I WANTED to quit. One other time in my 20's I quit for my (and still) new wife. It was torture everyday and I only made it maybe 6 mnths.
Somehow in there I switched from cope to Skoal, then to the Redseal in bulk from Sam's. I had always (for almost 20 yrs) bought it one can at a time because every can was my last one but, never was! I haven't really made any real effort other then the daily thoughts of quitting until about a year ago I did a Google search and ran across this website. I recall reading the stories and broke down into tears, went and threw my spit can and snuff away and vowed then and there to quit. Well, about 2 hours later I was on my way to 7/11 for more of that bitch!
I started walking daily and watching what I eat about 2-weeks ago. I decided that there would be no better time to quit than while I'm getting back into shape and watching my weight. I decided that I would get Nic patches and gum to aid me in quitting. I go to Walmart armed with very little knowledge and my HSA card for patches, gum, and fake dip. I come home and was reading thru the site when it started "clicking" that the motto of the site was; NO nicotine AT ALL! So I said F' it I'm in!!!
I'm creeping up on 48 hrs with NO Nicotine, I never opened the gum or patches. Honestly, with this Smokey Mountain I literally was blown away at how I breezed though the 1st 24 hrs. I'm always worried about getting fat when I quit and I used SM just like I would snuff and it kept me from snacking all day. I noticed last night that I had a little trouble sleeping and got up about 5am this morning for a walk. Is it true the 1st 72 hrs is the worst?
I've made up my mind, I'm done, finished, finetto... I didn't want to post roll until I was sure I cold get free, even in the haze I'm starting to see clearly and know I will need some help, but I'm so done. I've wanted to do it for myself for years and I've wanted to do it for my beautiful wife of 14 yrs and my 3.5 yr old boy and 1.5 yr old girl. I spent all day yesterday on the site and the roll still seems pretty elusive to me.
Anyone in or around Dallas?
Thanks gang,
Jason
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Jason, great decision to finally quit. You have never quit before; you only took a break. You need to want to be quit for you and you alone! Read everything on KTC. EVERYTHING! Reread what you have read before, and keep going. Start at the welcome center, and move on from there.
If you have made the decision to quit, and are not using the poison (nicotine) anymore, then you should post roll now. Your quit date is the 16th. It is very important that you post roll. Roll is the daily promise that you will be nicotine free all day, and being a man of your word you will keep your promise all day! The first week is a breeze once one accepts their "bad habit" is truly a slavish addiction to a poison that robs one of their health, money, and dignity, and one gets so angry that they won't stand for it anymore. The emotion is hard to sustain long term however, so the key to KTC is building your accountability! The people in your quit group are strangers now, but if you involve yourself daily they will become friends and help you stay quit if you let them. Post roll every day, read KTC and learn the plan, live the plan. The plan works!
PM me if you need anything. Drink lots of h2o. exercise, READ KTC, and do whatever you need to do to keep the poison out of your body. I wish I could tell you the first 3 days are the worst, but it sucked hard for me for the first 3 months... It was so worth it for me though. Today keeping my promise to be quit will be easy. Once I am not on KTC I will not think about the poison much today, and if I do it will be to hate and despise it not to miss it's deadly trappings or to romanticize the slavish control the poison had over me.... Fight for your freedom it is worth it!
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I posted roll to the Jan 2015 page. I think I got it right.
Thanks B-loMatt for the encouragement. I completely agree that it has to be for me first! It's great that I'll be setting a better example and the wife will like it, but she's not on my ass or anything like that and it's totally my call. No more waiting till the timing is right. I'm DONE!
I hope to become a fixture here!
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Keep on grinding. Lots of help here. Make sure you post roll everyday and go on the chat room for additional help.
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I posted roll to the Jan 2015 page. I think I got it right.
Thanks B-loMatt for the encouragement. I completely agree that it has to be for me first! It's great that I'll be setting a better example and the wife will like it, but she's not on my ass or anything like that and it's totally my call. No more waiting till the timing is right. I'm DONE!
I hope to become a fixture here!
Don't think, do. Worry about the promise you made today, add what you can today, then repeat. You will have days when you add a great deal here, and you will have days when you post roll. Either way as long as you post roll.
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Welcome
We're here to help. I'm here to help.
Ben (on day 8)
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Way to post roll...now you've made a promise; a promise not to use any nicotine today. Tomorrow, when you wake up; go take a piss then go to your computer and post roll. Do this every day. B-lo has been doing this every day for over 500 days, every day. I've done it every day for over 300 and never missed. This simple task, you will learn, will become the foundation of your quit. That promise will help you build accountability and brotherhood within your quit month. Then this will spill over into other brotherhood with other vets, and then to other newbies. In time you will see an entire network of people quitting with you every day and that is all because of posting roll. Don't ever break your word.
Read up my friend, there is much more. As you can see we're already watching you and jumping on your bandwagon of quit.
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Morning everyone,
My name is Jason and I've been a slave to that nic-bitch for longer than I can remember. Honestly, I believe I was around 12 yrs old when I started using Hawkins. I quickly moved to Copenhagen and can remember dipping in class in Jr. High. At some point in my 20's I quit for about 1.5 yrs. One morning I just woke up and said "I'm done" and got the last dip in a can and quit. It wasn't that hard I recall because I WANTED to quit. One other time in my 20's I quit for my (and still) new wife. It was torture everyday and I only made it maybe 6 mnths.
Somehow in there I switched from cope to Skoal, then to the Redseal in bulk from Sam's. I had always (for almost 20 yrs) bought it one can at a time because every can was my last one but, never was! I haven't really made any real effort other then the daily thoughts of quitting until about a year ago I did a Google search and ran across this website. I recall reading the stories and broke down into tears, went and threw my spit can and snuff away and vowed then and there to quit. Well, about 2 hours later I was on my way to 7/11 for more of that bitch!
I started walking daily and watching what I eat about 2-weeks ago. I decided that there would be no better time to quit than while I'm getting back into shape and watching my weight. I decided that I would get Nic patches and gum to aid me in quitting. I go to Walmart armed with very little knowledge and my HSA card for patches, gum, and fake dip. I come home and was reading thru the site when it started "clicking" that the motto of the site was; NO nicotine AT ALL! So I said F' it I'm in!!!
I'm creeping up on 48 hrs with NO Nicotine, I never opened the gum or patches. Honestly, with this Smokey Mountain I literally was blown away at how I breezed though the 1st 24 hrs. I'm always worried about getting fat when I quit and I used SM just like I would snuff and it kept me from snacking all day. I noticed last night that I had a little trouble sleeping and got up about 5am this morning for a walk. Is it true the 1st 72 hrs is the worst?
I've made up my mind, I'm done, finished, finetto... I didn't want to post roll until I was sure I cold get free, even in the haze I'm starting to see clearly and know I will need some help, but I'm so done. I've wanted to do it for myself for years and I've wanted to do it for my beautiful wife of 14 yrs and my 3.5 yr old boy and 1.5 yr old girl. I spent all day yesterday on the site and the roll still seems pretty elusive to me.
Anyone in or around Dallas?
Thanks gang,
Jason
I'm in Temple if that helps.
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Morning everyone,
My name is Jason and I've been a slave to that nic-bitch for longer than I can remember. Honestly, I believe I was around 12 yrs old when I started using Hawkins. I quickly moved to Copenhagen and can remember dipping in class in Jr. High. At some point in my 20's I quit for about 1.5 yrs. One morning I just woke up and said "I'm done" and got the last dip in a can and quit. It wasn't that hard I recall because I WANTED to quit. One other time in my 20's I quit for my (and still) new wife. It was torture everyday and I only made it maybe 6 mnths.
Somehow in there I switched from cope to Skoal, then to the Redseal in bulk from Sam's. I had always (for almost 20 yrs) bought it one can at a time because every can was my last one but, never was! I haven't really made any real effort other then the daily thoughts of quitting until about a year ago I did a Google search and ran across this website. I recall reading the stories and broke down into tears, went and threw my spit can and snuff away and vowed then and there to quit. Well, about 2 hours later I was on my way to 7/11 for more of that bitch!
I started walking daily and watching what I eat about 2-weeks ago. I decided that there would be no better time to quit than while I'm getting back into shape and watching my weight. I decided that I would get Nic patches and gum to aid me in quitting. I go to Walmart armed with very little knowledge and my HSA card for patches, gum, and fake dip. I come home and was reading thru the site when it started "clicking" that the motto of the site was; NO nicotine AT ALL! So I said F' it I'm in!!!
I'm creeping up on 48 hrs with NO Nicotine, I never opened the gum or patches. Honestly, with this Smokey Mountain I literally was blown away at how I breezed though the 1st 24 hrs. I'm always worried about getting fat when I quit and I used SM just like I would snuff and it kept me from snacking all day. I noticed last night that I had a little trouble sleeping and got up about 5am this morning for a walk. Is it true the 1st 72 hrs is the worst?
I've made up my mind, I'm done, finished, finetto... I didn't want to post roll until I was sure I cold get free, even in the haze I'm starting to see clearly and know I will need some help, but I'm so done. I've wanted to do it for myself for years and I've wanted to do it for my beautiful wife of 14 yrs and my 3.5 yr old boy and 1.5 yr old girl. I spent all day yesterday on the site and the roll still seems pretty elusive to me.
Anyone in or around Dallas?
Thanks gang,
Jason
I'm in Temple if that helps.
Hey Bazooka Joe,
My mom and dads parents are both from Temple/Belton, I was born in AUS. We just relocated my dad's folks here from the lake, they lived on the late for 40+ years. so I already know we have that connection. Thanks to everyone that has posted up.
I'm still in utter disbelief how much this site has hurled me into quit. I've wanted it badly and this gave me the umph to get off my ass and do it. Thank you!
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Morning everyone,
My name is Jason and I've been a slave to that nic-bitch for longer than I can remember. Honestly, I believe I was around 12 yrs old when I started using Hawkins. I quickly moved to Copenhagen and can remember dipping in class in Jr. High. At some point in my 20's I quit for about 1.5 yrs. One morning I just woke up and said "I'm done" and got the last dip in a can and quit. It wasn't that hard I recall because I WANTED to quit. One other time in my 20's I quit for my (and still) new wife. It was torture everyday and I only made it maybe 6 mnths.
Somehow in there I switched from cope to Skoal, then to the Redseal in bulk from Sam's. I had always (for almost 20 yrs) bought it one can at a time because every can was my last one but, never was! I haven't really made any real effort other then the daily thoughts of quitting until about a year ago I did a Google search and ran across this website. I recall reading the stories and broke down into tears, went and threw my spit can and snuff away and vowed then and there to quit. Well, about 2 hours later I was on my way to 7/11 for more of that bitch!
I started walking daily and watching what I eat about 2-weeks ago. I decided that there would be no better time to quit than while I'm getting back into shape and watching my weight. I decided that I would get Nic patches and gum to aid me in quitting. I go to Walmart armed with very little knowledge and my HSA card for patches, gum, and fake dip. I come home and was reading thru the site when it started "clicking" that the motto of the site was; NO nicotine AT ALL! So I said F' it I'm in!!!
I'm creeping up on 48 hrs with NO Nicotine, I never opened the gum or patches. Honestly, with this Smokey Mountain I literally was blown away at how I breezed though the 1st 24 hrs. I'm always worried about getting fat when I quit and I used SM just like I would snuff and it kept me from snacking all day. I noticed last night that I had a little trouble sleeping and got up about 5am this morning for a walk. Is it true the 1st 72 hrs is the worst?
I've made up my mind, I'm done, finished, finetto... I didn't want to post roll until I was sure I cold get free, even in the haze I'm starting to see clearly and know I will need some help, but I'm so done. I've wanted to do it for myself for years and I've wanted to do it for my beautiful wife of 14 yrs and my 3.5 yr old boy and 1.5 yr old girl. I spent all day yesterday on the site and the roll still seems pretty elusive to me.
Anyone in or around Dallas?
Thanks gang,
Jason
I'm in Temple if that helps.
Hey Bazooka Joe,
My mom and dads parents are both from Temple/Belton, I was born in AUS. We just relocated my dad's folks here from the lake, they lived on the late for 40+ years. so I already know we have that connection. Thanks to everyone that has posted up.
I'm still in utter disbelief how much this site has hurled me into quit. I've wanted it badly and this gave me the umph to get off my ass and do it. Thank you!
There are a few Dallas area folks around.
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Hey brother! Where in Dallas are you??? I'm on day 28 after 26 years
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Hey brother! Where in Dallas are you??? I'm on day 28 after 26 years
I'm around Midway/Walnut Hill in north Dallas. You?
So sounds like we stared somewhere around the same age. How old are you if you you don't mind? I'm just shy of 40.
Sucks rat turds that I've spent so long being her little bitch. I'm going to kick her ass today!
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Quit hard today Taco!
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Quit hard today Taco!
I'ma kick her teeth down her throat if she ef's with me today... It's game day! (literally and figuratively)
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internet /highfive =)
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Dallas quitters, I'm off of Royal and Greenville. I'm quit with you.
Mogul
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Dallas quitters, I'm off of Royal and Greenville. I'm quit with you.
Mogul
at the cross-hair of Plano, McKnney, Allen and Frisco
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Hey brother! Where in Dallas are you??? I'm on day 28 after 26 years
I'm around Midway/Walnut Hill in north Dallas. You?
So sounds like we stared somewhere around the same age. How old are you if you you don't mind? I'm just shy of 40.
Sucks rat turds that I've spent so long being her little bitch. I'm going to kick her ass today!
I'm in Mesquite. 44 years young and starting the rest of my life without that cancer shit in my mouth!!!
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8 Days in:
I believe I saw that I should keep this all in my intro post so it would be in one place and serve as a diary of sorts. Please, let me know if that isn't accurate.
Anyway, this evening I'm anxious about how easy it's been. Is this a trick? Is it possible I've used so long that I still have nic in my system? I've used the Smokey Mountain "fake dip" to be quit for 8-days and feel as if I've had only slight if any side-affects or withdraw symptoms. I feel like the SM fills my "trigger" cravings like after dinner, when I get out of bed, before a shower... All the times I wanted nic-bitch seems to have seamlessly been replaced with SM. I'm afraid that there is going to be some crash or melt down.
I did notice the 1st 3-4 days, I was short with my family members, but haven't really craved. While in Phoenix this week on business, I ninja dipped in the conference just like I would have with real dip only a short week ago. Ninja dipped in the airports and on airplane. Even out at a club after a few drinks, I went to the men's room and sneaked me a fat dip of the SM and on the way out noticed they had the little bathroom concierge guy and he had two cans of snuff. Honestly, my thought was that they were selling single dips in the bathroom in PHX. Seems likely in TX or AR but didn't see that one coming! LOL
Anyway after all that rambling, 1. I believe I'm feeling off or guilty for still having that "dirty little secret" using the SM. 2. I'm afraid that as much as I want to think I'm a bad ass and have simply made up my mind; that at some point there is going to be cravings and this "fog" everyone speaks of.
Is it the exercise keeping the fog at bay?
Thanks gang, I'm proud to be quit with you all today.
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8 Days in:
I believe I saw that I should keep this all in my intro post so it would be in one place and serve as a diary of sorts. Please, let me know if that isn't accurate.
Anyway, this evening I'm anxious about how easy it's been. Is this a trick? Is it possible I've used so long that I still have nic in my system? I've used the Smokey Mountain "fake dip" to be quit for 8-days and feel as if I've had only slight if any side-affects or withdraw symptoms. I feel like the SM fills my "trigger" cravings like after dinner, when I get out of bed, before a shower... All the times I wanted nic-bitch seems to have seamlessly been replaced with SM. I'm afraid that there is going to be some crash or melt down.
I did notice the 1st 3-4 days, I was short with my family members, but haven't really craved. While in Phoenix this week on business, I ninja dipped in the conference just like I would have with real dip only a short week ago. Ninja dipped in the airports and on airplane. Even out at a club after a few drinks, I went to the men's room and sneaked me a fat dip of the SM and on the way out noticed they had the little bathroom concierge guy and he had two cans of snuff. Honestly, my thought was that they were selling single dips in the bathroom in PHX. Seems likely in TX or AR but didn't see that one coming! LOL
Anyway after all that rambling, 1. I believe I'm feeling off or guilty for still having that "dirty little secret" using the SM. 2. I'm afraid that as much as I want to think I'm a bad ass and have simply made up my mind; that at some point there is going to be cravings and this "fog" everyone speaks of.
Is it the exercise keeping the fog at bay?
Thanks gang, I'm proud to be quit with you all today.
As long as you are keeping nic out of your system you are doing great and you have no reason to feel guilty. Enjoy your freedom and run with it!
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8 Days in:
I believe I saw that I should keep this all in my intro post so it would be in one place and serve as a diary of sorts. Please, let me know if that isn't accurate.
Anyway, this evening I'm anxious about how easy it's been. Is this a trick? Is it possible I've used so long that I still have nic in my system? I've used the Smokey Mountain "fake dip" to be quit for 8-days and feel as if I've had only slight if any side-affects or withdraw symptoms. I feel like the SM fills my "trigger" cravings like after dinner, when I get out of bed, before a shower... All the times I wanted nic-bitch seems to have seamlessly been replaced with SM. I'm afraid that there is going to be some crash or melt down.
I did notice the 1st 3-4 days, I was short with my family members, but haven't really craved. While in Phoenix this week on business, I ninja dipped in the conference just like I would have with real dip only a short week ago. Ninja dipped in the airports and on airplane. Even out at a club after a few drinks, I went to the men's room and sneaked me a fat dip of the SM and on the way out noticed they had the little bathroom concierge guy and he had two cans of snuff. Honestly, my thought was that they were selling single dips in the bathroom in PHX. Seems likely in TX or AR but didn't see that one coming! LOL
Anyway after all that rambling, 1. I believe I'm feeling off or guilty for still having that "dirty little secret" using the SM. 2. I'm afraid that as much as I want to think I'm a bad ass and have simply made up my mind; that at some point there is going to be cravings and this "fog" everyone speaks of.
Is it the exercise keeping the fog at bay?
Thanks gang, I'm proud to be quit with you all today.
As long as you are keeping nic out of your system you are doing great and you have no reason to feel guilty. Enjoy your freedom and run with it!
Well, I woke up again this morning and got me a dip of my fake dip and went on a 3 mile walk. I guess between exercise, water intake, Smokey Mountain I'm whooping this nic's ass for today.
Still no real withdraw symptoms or terrible cravings on day 9 after dipping for 25+ years.
Thanks for the encouragement Grizzly has claws!
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Another milestone today:
Took a 3.5 hr road trip in the car with the family. Usually, this would involve making sure there was something to spit in and a fresh can of Red Seal or Skoal WGFC. It's one of my rituals, triggers, habit, to always pack my lip full of nic-O-bitch worm dirt and spit the whole way there. NOT THIS TIME! I told that skank to get a ride with somebody else today!
I can't lie though, it's probably been the toughest day yet. Stopping for gas; going into stores and seeing it behind the counter. I'm still "mad" at nic-O-bia and really didn't want any, but can tell seeing it has made me have cravings today. I can confidently say that today, I won!
We won! Proud to be quit with all of you today! 'oh yeah'
Jason
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That's awesome!! I'm on day 7 and am struggling but reading all if this thread has helped tonight. I am staying quit with u!
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TxTaco congrats on your decision to quit. I am also a former long term dipper (30 years).
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TxTaco congrats on your decision to quit. I am also a former long term dipper (30 years).
Thanks Sawdog! It's funny how on the one hand it's such an easy, easy decision and once "you" make it, then it really is truly easy... BUT... On the other hand, making that decision is the toughest damn thing to do in the world when you're in that bitches grasp.
Good job on being quit since Sept. Glad to be quit today with ya!
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Sore mouth?
I've read alot of people talk about getting sores or their mouth healing after being quit. Can I ask about how long into the quit that is? Would folks using a fake dip still get them?
My mouth has been feeling a little sore and tingly at times. Not sure if it's the fake dip or if it's just hurting for some nic.
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I started noticing little sores after about 4 days but I think it was from using a lot of the fake stuff. I've backed off of using that and now the sores are gone. How are you doing otherwise?
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I started noticing little sores after about 4 days but I think it was from using a lot of the fake stuff. I've backed off of using that and now the sores are gone. How are you doing otherwise?
Otherwise, I'm really still just determined to stay quit. I'm pissed about my inability to take control for so long. I feel like it's been too easy so I'm a little on edge about being too confident.
I've had a few cravings, but I pop in a fake dip and it seems to help. I think I've had some of these sleepy spells that I've heard some speak of. I also without a doubt know that walking every morning has been a huge help. Just to sweat and feel my heart pumping 1st thing in the morning for 3 weeks straight (started that before the quit) has helped. I can tell my sleeping is off, but not too bad.
For 10 days in I think I feel pretty good! lol
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I started noticing little sores after about 4 days but I think it was from using a lot of the fake stuff. I've backed off of using that and now the sores are gone. How are you doing otherwise?
I can also tell I've been a grouch with the wife and kids. It's like I see myself being a dick and just can't stop... Then I apologize for being a dick, my wife is supportive and get's it, but I'm ready to be in a better mood. The kids don't understand.
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I started noticing little sores after about 4 days but I think it was from using a lot of the fake stuff. I've backed off of using that and now the sores are gone. How are you doing otherwise?
I can also tell I've been a grouch with the wife and kids. It's like I see myself being a dick and just can't stop... Then I apologize for being a dick, my wife is supportive and get's it, but I'm ready to be in a better mood. The kids don't understand.
Hang in there. Sounds normal. Do everything you can to be positive with the kids. Keep doing what you're doing here.
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Going to the oral surg today... My dentist had been advising me to go see him awhile. Said he wasn't too worried, but wants the oral surgeon to "stain" the inside of my cheeks and will be able to tell if anything needs a closer look. I tell you, it's had me scared shitless for about 2yrs!!!
I figured now that I'm 15days into my quit I'd go ahead and try to get it knocked out so I can stop worrying about it. Wish me luck, I'm a little nervous about it.
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Going to the oral surg today... My dentist had been advising me to go see him awhile. Said he wasn't too worried, but wants the oral surgeon to "stain" the inside of my cheeks and will be able to tell if anything needs a closer look. I tell you, it's had me scared shitless for about 2yrs!!!
I figured now that I'm 15days into my quit I'd go ahead and try to get it knocked out so I can stop worrying about it. Wish me luck, I'm a little nervous about it.
Keep calm. You got this. Prayers up for You today.
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Went to the surgeon and all seems to be good... I could tell by his body language and the fact he said "you don't have cancer" that it wasn't too bad. Funny, I've always thought I dipped ALOT, mainly because I ALWAYS had a dip in unless I was eating or asleep. But, honestly, 1 dip might seriously last me for 10 hrs under the right circumstances. Other times, I spit one out to put a fresh one in! Anyway, after hearing some of the stories here and speaking to the Doc apparently I wasn't as "all out" as I thought I was. Good news!
Anyway, they want me to spend $1800 on a biopsy to to tell me for sure and I may go that route. But, for now I'm just stoked that there was nothing that caused him concern and I'm still QUIT!!!
On a funny side - I told him right off the bat "I've quit for 15days"... Then as he's doing his examination he pulls out one of those long cotton swabs and it has fake dip on it. He's all like "So how long ago did you quit" in a suspicious tone! It was funny to me anyway and then I showed him the fake stuff.
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Went to the surgeon and all seems to be good... I could tell by his body language and the fact he said "you don't have cancer" that it wasn't too bad. Funny, I've always thought I dipped ALOT, mainly because I ALWAYS had a dip in unless I was eating or asleep. But, honestly, 1 dip might seriously last me for 10 hrs under the right circumstances. Other times, I spit one out to put a fresh one in! Anyway, after hearing some of the stories here and speaking to the Doc apparently I wasn't as "all out" as I thought I was. Good news!
Anyway, they want me to spend $1800 on a biopsy to to tell me for sure and I may go that route. But, for now I'm just stoked that there was nothing that caused him concern and I'm still QUIT!!!
On a funny side - I told him right off the bat "I've quit for 15days"... Then as he's doing his examination he pulls out one of those long cotton swabs and it has fake dip on it. He's all like "So how long ago did you quit" in a suspicious tone! It was funny to me anyway and then I showed him the fake stuff.
Glad to hear txtaco1!
Stay quit and strong, don't let the clean bill of health allow you to return to chewing.
Proud to quit with you,
Charles
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Went to the surgeon and all seems to be good... I could tell by his body language and the fact he said "you don't have cancer" that it wasn't too bad. Funny, I've always thought I dipped ALOT, mainly because I ALWAYS had a dip in unless I was eating or asleep. But, honestly, 1 dip might seriously last me for 10 hrs under the right circumstances. Other times, I spit one out to put a fresh one in! Anyway, after hearing some of the stories here and speaking to the Doc apparently I wasn't as "all out" as I thought I was. Good news!
Anyway, they want me to spend $1800 on a biopsy to to tell me for sure and I may go that route. But, for now I'm just stoked that there was nothing that caused him concern and I'm still QUIT!!!
On a funny side - I told him right off the bat "I've quit for 15days"... Then as he's doing his examination he pulls out one of those long cotton swabs and it has fake dip on it. He's all like "So how long ago did you quit" in a suspicious tone! It was funny to me anyway and then I showed him the fake stuff.
Glad to hear txtaco1!
Stay quit and strong, don't let the clean bill of health allow you to return to chewing.
Proud to quit with you,
Charles
Awesome! What Spuds said x 1000. NAFAR and ODAAT
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Thanks guys and trust me... Not even for a second does me consider even thinking about it. I "took a break" years ago and ended up back on the worm-shit. Never-again! I read someone else say something along the lines of "I'm not looking my wife and kids in the eye and telling them dip is more important than they are".
Quit for today and forever, thanks for the support fellas!
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Thanks guys and trust me... Not even for a second does me consider even thinking about it. I "took a break" years ago and ended up back on the worm-shit. Never-again! I read someone else say something along the lines of "I'm not looking my wife and kids in the eye and telling them dip is more important than they are".
Quit for today and forever, thanks for the support fellas!
Good stuff - get as many layers of support and accountability as you can.
Never loose sight of the fact the promise to quit is made for you.
The ability to look yourself in the mirror and know 100% you are staying true to your word is priceless!
Taking ownership of our addictions impacts anyone we come into contact with.
Remember, you are here for a reason!
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Just an update - Day 17 - The saga moves onward
Believe it was day 13 14 that sucked the worst of all for me so far out of all of it. Somehow, with the fake dip my first 72hrs were a breeze and I don't know that I suffered any symptoms but a headache. I considered myself lucky until day 1314. I can't even really put my finger on it. I'm so determined to quit that it's hard to call them cravings. It's like I just have this level of pissed-offness that is off the charts. This is how I feel on the inside and it's been hard to hold it in and not act like a complete dick. I haven't been perfect, but the wifey is supportive and here we are at day 17.
Someone on the site in one of the many things I've read said something along the lines of "'I'm just now realizing that I've always been this short tempered, I've just always used nic to cope" and something along the lines of they had to change. I think that's where I'm at and mentioning that some of my pissed-offness were true feelings. Wife and I are working on some things around the home and it seems to be getting better for my overall family life. Day 15-17 have had their moments, but have pretty much been pleasurable days. I'm starting to feel better about it and my body is starting to heal.
Another thing that I can say without a doubt is that exercising as others have mentioned really helps. I've been doing some really long walks around the neighborhood and have gotten to be able to walk about 4mi in 1hr. Even if I only walk a little over a mile. sometimes if I'm lazy I'll only walk a mile but then do it again in the evening with my 3yr old son. It's helped alot and I've at least been able to maintain my weight and even shed a few extra pounds. The difference I feel has lead to about 12days off soda's (I've had a few here and there) and eating WAY more healthy. Don't get me wrong, I had some french fries and a burger yesterday but being off the nic is SO awesome it just keeps getting better for me.
Fake Dip - I tried Hooch and still like the Smokey Mountain Wintergreen from Walmart. It's easy to get, tastes pretty close to the Skoal and RedSeal Fine Cut WG that I used to use. I can't say enough good stuff about this product. Between this and KTC members taking me under their wing, this has been a awesome choice.
Sparkling Water - I know it's ghey! LOL and I'm not sure if it's an age, taste, or what but 2weeks ago I HATED sparkling water. Now it's my new "go to" drink of choice.
Lastly, because I've seen others discuss it... My climax after sex is off! It seems to take longer to come to climax and it's harder to reach (kinda good and bad). Then when it's not as rewarding as it was two weeks ago. I've read alot of guys posting that it's better and I don't like that I'm having the opposite results. Will it start getting better?
Also, remembered that I've been constipated a little, which is not usual for me. Have read that it is common, but still sucked no-less. On that, I'm going to go watch some football and hope my Cowboys don't take another crap on me this week!
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Day 32 - I believe I went thru my second "bout" where I just hated everything and wanted to kick down doors and tear shit up for completely no reason at all. I still swear the exercise and water have helped on other days. I'm still using the fake chew and loving the fact the nic-bitch isn't running shit over here anymore.
I do more with the kids. DO more around the house and mainly cause I'm not sitting around somewhere with a lip full of worm shit spitting out brown slime. I absolutely deplore the thought of ever putting that shit in my face again. Feeling pretty strong today.
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Day 42 - Thanksgiving....
The Good:
This morning, I got up at about 630am and went for a jog/walk for just shy of 4 miles in a little over an hour. SO now I'm ready to get my feast on today. I'm thankful for too many things to list and of course my quit is right up there. Also, the fact I've dropped soda's down to an occasional treat drinking about 90% water. Along with walking and some very moderate exercise around the house I've managed to lose 14lbs so far, down from 204 to 190. On good days which are most often it's amazing how much better and better it's getting. How clearly I'm starting to see things in general. I've always prided myself in being observant and in-touch with what's going on around me and see it even more clearly now. I'm more active with the kids and around the house. It's an overall pleasure on most days and feel it getting better and better. I love not being a slave to nicotine any longer.
The Bad:
I get these funks that come over me and can set in within a minute... If not seconds. Sometimes, there is a clear trigger and I can identify what it was, others it is seemingly nothing at all. Sometimes, I can quickly identify my behavior and either head it off or change my attitude. Others, seems like no matter what I do I just want to kick-down door, rip shit off the walls, curse, scream, and just throw a down right fucking tantrum! I'm a really laid back type of personality so this isn't like me. I'm mean not to say I don't get pissed from time to time, but not like this. My wife is supportive and tries to either stay out of the way, put me in my place, or just let me rant depending on the situation.
I'm using Smokey Mountain Fake Dip so I really don't notice to many "craves" as I feel like I'm still dipping. Just no Nicotine. So I feel like these funks or rages are crave driven. Not sure if they they are 3 days worth rolled into one or if it's just part of the natural cycle. It does suck, but luckily it's a small part of the time on most days and never lasts more than about a day to two at the most. It's a small price to pay to be free of the shackles of tobacco and nicotine. Everyday is a small victory, and I plan to keep stacking day, on top of day, on top of day. I NEVER and I mean Eff'ing NEVER want to put nicotine in my body. I want to be a role model for my 2 young children and be here and be health for a long time to come.
Lastly, the "Circle Jerk" (it's really called Circle of Jerks) we call a text group has really helped me stay focused on a daily basis. They are generally one of the 1st things I see in the morning, again around lunch, and before bedtime. Like a couple of little ghey, bitches we checkin on each other and hold each other accountable. Guys, you have made this journey a lot of fun and very real. Thank you Everyone in the Circle of Jerks text group.
Now let's go eat some turkey and kick some Eagles ass... Go Cowboys! (sorry any Phily fans. I still quit with ya today though!) cowboy
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Day 42 - Thanksgiving....
The Good:
This morning, I got up at about 630am and went for a jog/walk for just shy of 4 miles in a little over an hour. SO now I'm ready to get my feast on today. I'm thankful for too many things to list and of course my quit is right up there. Also, the fact I've dropped soda's down to an occasional treat drinking about 90% water. Along with walking and some very moderate exercise around the house I've managed to lose 14lbs so far, down from 204 to 190. On good days which are most often it's amazing how much better and better it's getting. How clearly I'm starting to see things in general. I've always prided myself in being observant and in-touch with what's going on around me and see it even more clearly now. I'm more active with the kids and around the house. It's an overall pleasure on most days and feel it getting better and better. I love not being a slave to nicotine any longer.
The Bad:
I get these funks that come over me and can set in within a minute... If not seconds. Sometimes, there is a clear trigger and I can identify what it was, others it is seemingly nothing at all. Sometimes, I can quickly identify my behavior and either head it off or change my attitude. Others, seems like no matter what I do I just want to kick-down door, rip shit off the walls, curse, scream, and just throw a down right fucking tantrum! I'm a really laid back type of personality so this isn't like me. I'm mean not to say I don't get pissed from time to time, but not like this. My wife is supportive and tries to either stay out of the way, put me in my place, or just let me rant depending on the situation.
I'm using Smokey Mountain Fake Dip so I really don't notice to many "craves" as I feel like I'm still dipping. Just no Nicotine. So I feel like these funks or rages are crave driven. Not sure if they they are 3 days worth rolled into one or if it's just part of the natural cycle. It does suck, but luckily it's a small part of the time on most days and never lasts more than about a day to two at the most. It's a small price to pay to be free of the shackles of tobacco and nicotine. Everyday is a small victory, and I plan to keep stacking day, on top of day, on top of day. I NEVER and I mean Eff'ing NEVER want to put nicotine in my body. I want to be a role model for my 2 young children and be here and be health for a long time to come.
Lastly, the "Circle Jerk" (it's really called Circle of Jerks) we call a text group has really helped me stay focused on a daily basis. They are generally one of the 1st things I see in the morning, again around lunch, and before bedtime. Like a couple of little ghey, bitches we checkin on each other and hold each other accountable. Guys, you have made this journey a lot of fun and very real. Thank you Everyone in the Circle of Jerks text group.
Now let's go eat some turkey and kick some Eagles ass... Go Cowboys! (sorry any Phily fans. I still quit with ya today though!) cowboy
Completely normal man. You are doing great. I almost forgot about that nic rage shit. Time will heal all my friend.
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Another milestone today:
Took a 3.5 hr road trip in the car with the family. Usually, this would involve making sure there was something to spit in and a fresh can of Red Seal or Skoal WGFC. It's one of my rituals, triggers, habit, to always pack my lip full of nic-O-bitch worm dirt and spit the whole way there. NOT THIS TIME! I told that skank to get a ride with somebody else today!
I can't lie though, it's probably been the toughest day yet. Stopping for gas; going into stores and seeing it behind the counter. I'm still "mad" at nic-O-bia and really didn't want any, but can tell seeing it has made me have cravings today. I can confidently say that today, I won!
We won! Proud to be quit with all of you today! 'oh yeah'
Jason
I think that's the best part of quitting; not having to worry about having tins available when I know I won't have access to a convenience store, like over a weekend.
Some people talk about the $ saved. I couldn't care less about that. Perhaps it's because it was still cheaper than smoking cigarettes, which I did a pack a day before starting pouches. Perhaps it's because I'm not hurting for cash, working two jobs? I don't know. But, if it were only related to cash, I'd still be using.
Proud to be quit with you. Hang in there, even after our 100 days (I'll need the support after HOF).
Shelly
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Another milestone today:
Took a 3.5 hr road trip in the car with the family. Usually, this would involve making sure there was something to spit in and a fresh can of Red Seal or Skoal WGFC. It's one of my rituals, triggers, habit, to always pack my lip full of nic-O-bitch worm dirt and spit the whole way there. NOT THIS TIME! I told that skank to get a ride with somebody else today!
I can't lie though, it's probably been the toughest day yet. Stopping for gas; going into stores and seeing it behind the counter. I'm still "mad" at nic-O-bia and really didn't want any, but can tell seeing it has made me have cravings today. I can confidently say that today, I won!
We won! Proud to be quit with all of you today! 'oh yeah'
Jason
I think that's the best part of quitting; not having to worry about having tins available when I know I won't have access to a convenience store, like over a weekend.
Some people talk about the $ saved. I couldn't care less about that. Perhaps it's because it was still cheaper than smoking cigarettes, which I did a pack a day before starting pouches. Perhaps it's because I'm not hurting for cash, working two jobs? I don't know. But, if it were only related to cash, I'd still be using.
Proud to be quit with you. Hang in there, even after our 100 days (I'll need the support after HOF).
Shelly
I'm with you Shelly! I plan to be here WAY past 100 days. I need you guys and gals to stay quit not get some 100 day chip or token. Althought I do plan to get one and carry it daily to remind me.
Awesome,
Jason
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Closing out 2014; Without dip...
This was one of the best holidays I can remember. I feel it was the lack of nicotine, but also that it was a blast watching my almost 4yr old and his almost 2yr old lil sister open gifts. This was his 1st year to seem to really be into it which I think made it more enjoyable for me. We also started some of our own little traditions. It's been an overall awesome holiday!
We drove from Dallas to Baytown to see my wives parents and two brothers (one is married)... My wife's parents are from Thailand and I mention this just to set the scene a little bit. They are awesome people and her dad is hands down #1 grandpa. If you don't watch him he'll just take off with the kids! But, they can be a little different than what I think most of us think a "normal" family Xmas should be like. Anyway, her brothers live in like Pearland and Katy which are on opposite sides of Houston from Baytown. My father in-law smokes Marlboro Reds for 50+ years IN THE HOUSE! He'll probably live to 110!
Again, back on track here. I mention some of those things to say that there were some major triggers for me over the weekend. I was never big on smoking cigs. I grew up with a mom who smoked and I myself, a few times tried switching from snuff to cigs and it never worked. They make me cough, and my mouth taste like shit, and I just could NOT use them. Oh, HOW I wish dip would have been the same for me! It wasn't until Sunday when we left that I realized that being around all that smoke was making me constantly crave the nic bitch...
Not to fear... I think... I have fake dip! Well, I know that I've talked about it before. Everyone says it's ok to use the fake dip and when I say everyone I mean "everyone that matters to me". My dentist, the oral surgeon, my wife and myself. Because I believe getting off the nicotine and tobacco are the most important things. I will say this though - For me a big reason to get quit is to lose the spitter and the habits that go along with dipping. I think dipping is gross! That's one of the things that baffled me for SO long is how can I hate this crap and think it's gross yet at the very same moment HAVE to have it to get by.
Ok, so well, I've beat the nicotine for the moment to still be dipping and spitting and still enjoying it. Felt a little like cheating I said at the start of my quit it seemingly made it so easy... Well, now I'm starting to feel as if I'm just addicted to fake dip now. At one point recently I think it was a dream or maybe a crave but I pictured myself buying a can of REAL dip and thought "Aye, what's the difference and this will be so much easier"... Random cravings and thoughts of an addict mind healing itself? I'm not sure...
I know the fake has kept me off the dip for 76 days now... I also know I read something another member posted somewhere that they used fake for like 500 days before quitting it too. So for now I plug along and plan to use the fake for as long as I have to. At the same time knowing in my own heart I won't be completely content until the day comes that I have quit "dipping" altogether.
OK, all of that said I feel it was a little negative and that is the 70's funk talking... 76 day's quit I believe that I'm out of it and starting to feel that positive vibe again. QLF
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Closing out 2014; Without dip...
This was one of the best holidays I can remember. I feel it was the lack of nicotine, but also that it was a blast watching my almost 4yr old and his almost 2yr old lil sister open gifts. This was his 1st year to seem to really be into it which I think made it more enjoyable for me. We also started some of our own little traditions. It's been an overall awesome holiday!
We drove from Dallas to Baytown to see my wives parents and two brothers (one is married)... My wife's parents are from Thailand and I mention this just to set the scene a little bit. They are awesome people and her dad is hands down #1 grandpa. If you don't watch him he'll just take off with the kids! But, they can be a little different than what I think most of us think a "normal" family Xmas should be like. Anyway, her brothers live in like Pearland and Katy which are on opposite sides of Houston from Baytown. My father in-law smokes Marlboro Reds for 50+ years IN THE HOUSE! He'll probably live to 110!
Again, back on track here. I mention some of those things to say that there were some major triggers for me over the weekend. I was never big on smoking cigs. I grew up with a mom who smoked and I myself, a few times tried switching from snuff to cigs and it never worked. They make me cough, and my mouth taste like shit, and I just could NOT use them. Oh, HOW I wish dip would have been the same for me! It wasn't until Sunday when we left that I realized that being around all that smoke was making me constantly crave the nic bitch...
Not to fear... I think... I have fake dip! Well, I know that I've talked about it before. Everyone says it's ok to use the fake dip and when I say everyone I mean "everyone that matters to me". My dentist, the oral surgeon, my wife and myself. Because I believe getting off the nicotine and tobacco are the most important things. I will say this though - For me a big reason to get quit is to lose the spitter and the habits that go along with dipping. I think dipping is gross! That's one of the things that baffled me for SO long is how can I hate this crap and think it's gross yet at the very same moment HAVE to have it to get by.
Ok, so well, I've beat the nicotine for the moment to still be dipping and spitting and still enjoying it. Felt a little like cheating I said at the start of my quit it seemingly made it so easy... Well, now I'm starting to feel as if I'm just addicted to fake dip now. At one point recently I think it was a dream or maybe a crave but I pictured myself buying a can of REAL dip and thought "Aye, what's the difference and this will be so much easier"... Random cravings and thoughts of an addict mind healing itself? I'm not sure...
I know the fake has kept me off the dip for 76 days now... I also know I read something another member posted somewhere that they used fake for like 500 days before quitting it too. So for now I plug along and plan to use the fake for as long as I have to. At the same time knowing in my own heart I won't be completely content until the day comes that I have quit "dipping" altogether.
OK, all of that said I feel it was a little negative and that is the 70's funk talking... 76 day's quit I believe that I'm out of it and starting to feel that positive vibe again. QLF
I stopped using the fake stuff around day 130 or so. We had a quitter meet up at a Browns game, and I watched a comma quitter get addict eyes over it. He had never used the stuff before, and I kept hearing "It's amazing how it just fits right back in there". Scared the shit out of me because I realized we were running around like a bunch of young kids just discovering the stuff.
I stopped the next day, and had to supplement with seeds (but there's no physical withdrawals) for a little bit. The habit can get you sometimes though, so I've always kept a can available in my car or at work.
Just in case
Don't worry about your usage right now. 76 days if flipping awesome, but it's a drop in a pan to where you're going. The good now is great, but the good that will come becomes the norm. You will live a day without thinking about nicotine outside of roll call/day planning. Quit will become your baseline.
I'm very proud of you for making it through the holidays with flying colors. Keep it up.
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'sac' 'clap' 'party2' 'dance' 100 DAYS NIC FREE 'dance' 'party2' 'clap' 'sac'
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Here's what I posted on FB today... Made me proud!
I wasn't 100% sure I was going to say anything on FB about this... Some of you that know me closely may not realize that I've been stuffing my face with poison for over 25 years. Literally longer than I can remember. Every birthday, graduation, wedding (even my own), child birth, everything... I carried a tin of poison around to "celebrate" or "cope". Knowing all along but not realizing; I was nothing more than a mere slave to this drug. On a payment plan to a slow and surely miserable death.
With the determination of a mule, I decided 100 days ago today that would be the last time. NEVER again! No nicotine replacement therapy, no hypnosis, no magic pill. I put it down and said that's it, I'm done. It's been a bitch and it's not over, but there is no doubt in my mind that I've nailed the door shut on Nicotine, she will never be allowed back into my life. With the help of some random strangers on the internet (Killthecan.org), my closest friends, and family I've quit for me. I've quit forever.
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Here's what I posted on FB today... Made me proud!
I wasn't 100% sure I was going to say anything on FB about this... Some of you that know me closely may not realize that I've been stuffing my face with poison for over 25 years. Literally longer than I can remember. Every birthday, graduation, wedding (even my own), child birth, everything... I carried a tin of poison around to "celebrate" or "cope". Knowing all along but not realizing; I was nothing more than a mere slave to this drug. On a payment plan to a slow and surely miserable death.
With the determination of a mule, I decided 100 days ago today that would be the last time. NEVER again! No nicotine replacement therapy, no hypnosis, no magic pill. I put it down and said that's it, I'm done. It's been a bitch and it's not over, but there is no doubt in my mind that I've nailed the door shut on Nicotine, she will never be allowed back into my life. With the help of some random strangers on the internet (Killthecan.org), my closest friends, and family I've quit for me. I've quit forever.
That's awesome man. Congrats!
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Here's what I posted on FB today... Made me proud!
I wasn't 100% sure I was going to say anything on FB about this... Some of you that know me closely may not realize that I've been stuffing my face with poison for over 25 years. Literally longer than I can remember. Every birthday, graduation, wedding (even my own), child birth, everything... I carried a tin of poison around to "celebrate" or "cope". Knowing all along but not realizing; I was nothing more than a mere slave to this drug. On a payment plan to a slow and surely miserable death.
With the determination of a mule, I decided 100 days ago today that would be the last time. NEVER again! No nicotine replacement therapy, no hypnosis, no magic pill. I put it down and said that's it, I'm done. It's been a bitch and it's not over, but there is no doubt in my mind that I've nailed the door shut on Nicotine, she will never be allowed back into my life. With the help of some random strangers on the internet (Killthecan.org), my closest friends, and family I've quit for me. I've quit forever.
That's awesome man. Congrats!
Nice. I like your attitude.
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Here's what I posted on FB today... Made me proud!
I wasn't 100% sure I was going to say anything on FB about this... Some of you that know me closely may not realize that I've been stuffing my face with poison for over 25 years. Literally longer than I can remember. Every birthday, graduation, wedding (even my own), child birth, everything... I carried a tin of poison around to "celebrate" or "cope". Knowing all along but not realizing; I was nothing more than a mere slave to this drug. On a payment plan to a slow and surely miserable death.
With the determination of a mule, I decided 100 days ago today that would be the last time. NEVER again! No nicotine replacement therapy, no hypnosis, no magic pill. I put it down and said that's it, I'm done. It's been a bitch and it's not over, but there is no doubt in my mind that I've nailed the door shut on Nicotine, she will never be allowed back into my life. With the help of some random strangers on the internet (Killthecan.org), my closest friends, and family I've quit for me. I've quit forever.
That's awesome man. Congrats!
Nice. I like your attitude.
That's a pretty brave post. Congrats!
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Here's what I posted on FB today... Made me proud!
I wasn't 100% sure I was going to say anything on FB about this... Some of you that know me closely may not realize that I've been stuffing my face with poison for over 25 years. Literally longer than I can remember. Every birthday, graduation, wedding (even my own), child birth, everything... I carried a tin of poison around to "celebrate" or "cope". Knowing all along but not realizing; I was nothing more than a mere slave to this drug. On a payment plan to a slow and surely miserable death.
With the determination of a mule, I decided 100 days ago today that would be the last time. NEVER again! No nicotine replacement therapy, no hypnosis, no magic pill. I put it down and said that's it, I'm done. It's been a bitch and it's not over, but there is no doubt in my mind that I've nailed the door shut on Nicotine, she will never be allowed back into my life. With the help of some random strangers on the internet (Killthecan.org), my closest friends, and family I've quit for me. I've quit forever.
That's awesome man. Congrats!
Nice. I like your attitude.
That's a pretty brave post. Congrats!
Nice. Congrats on HOF and thanks for posting with us.
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Here's what I posted on FB today... Made me proud!
I wasn't 100% sure I was going to say anything on FB about this... Some of you that know me closely may not realize that I've been stuffing my face with poison for over 25 years. Literally longer than I can remember. Every birthday, graduation, wedding (even my own), child birth, everything... I carried a tin of poison around to "celebrate" or "cope". Knowing all along but not realizing; I was nothing more than a mere slave to this drug. On a payment plan to a slow and surely miserable death.
With the determination of a mule, I decided 100 days ago today that would be the last time. NEVER again! No nicotine replacement therapy, no hypnosis, no magic pill. I put it down and said that's it, I'm done. It's been a bitch and it's not over, but there is no doubt in my mind that I've nailed the door shut on Nicotine, she will never be allowed back into my life. With the help of some random strangers on the internet (Killthecan.org), my closest friends, and family I've quit for me. I've quit forever.
That's awesome man. Congrats!
Nice. I like your attitude.
That's a pretty brave post. Congrats!
Congrats Taco!! Proud to quit with you man.
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Jason - your story definitely hit home like so many others I've read. Can't tell you the number of cans I've thrown out saying it's my last. I'm on day 2 and really struggling. I went out at lunch to look for some jolly ranchers and landed at a 7/11. In the candy aisle, the nic bitch started whispering in my ear... right then I got a text from one of the guys on this site. Simply said hang tough, don't listen to that bitch, and fight it with everything you have. I don't think I was going to cave and will never know but that text made sure I just walked out with some candy and a water. The guys in here are awesome so make sure you lean on them.
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Here's what I posted on FB today... Made me proud!
I wasn't 100% sure I was going to say anything on FB about this... Some of you that know me closely may not realize that I've been stuffing my face with poison for over 25 years. Literally longer than I can remember. Every birthday, graduation, wedding (even my own), child birth, everything... I carried a tin of poison around to "celebrate" or "cope". Knowing all along but not realizing; I was nothing more than a mere slave to this drug. On a payment plan to a slow and surely miserable death.
With the determination of a mule, I decided 100 days ago today that would be the last time. NEVER again! No nicotine replacement therapy, no hypnosis, no magic pill. I put it down and said that's it, I'm done. It's been a bitch and it's not over, but there is no doubt in my mind that I've nailed the door shut on Nicotine, she will never be allowed back into my life. With the help of some random strangers on the internet (Killthecan.org), my closest friends, and family I've quit for me. I've quit forever.
That's awesome man. Congrats!
Nice. I like your attitude.
That's a pretty brave post. Congrats!
Congrats Taco!! Proud to quit with you man.
Hell yes! All the bull shit put on Facebook that's something worth talking about! Should be 500,000 likes! Awesome brother should be very proud! I'm proud to say I'm quit with you!
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Here's what I posted on FB today... Made me proud!
I wasn't 100% sure I was going to say anything on FB about this... Some of you that know me closely may not realize that I've been stuffing my face with poison for over 25 years. Literally longer than I can remember. Every birthday, graduation, wedding (even my own), child birth, everything... I carried a tin of poison around to "celebrate" or "cope". Knowing all along but not realizing; I was nothing more than a mere slave to this drug. On a payment plan to a slow and surely miserable death.
With the determination of a mule, I decided 100 days ago today that would be the last time. NEVER again! No nicotine replacement therapy, no hypnosis, no magic pill. I put it down and said that's it, I'm done. It's been a bitch and it's not over, but there is no doubt in my mind that I've nailed the door shut on Nicotine, she will never be allowed back into my life. With the help of some random strangers on the internet (Killthecan.org), my closest friends, and family I've quit for me. I've quit forever.
That's awesome man. Congrats!
Nice. I like your attitude.
That's a pretty brave post. Congrats!
Congrats Taco!! Proud to quit with you man.
Hell yes! All the bull shit put on Facebook that's something worth talking about! Should be 500,000 likes! Awesome brother should be very proud! I'm proud to say I'm quit with you!
I'd be hitting the like button but I don't see if.....hey Chewie???!!!!!
So I'll use 'oh yeah'
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Day 130 Update - Monster Jam // gout // How I'm holding up
So I've been thinking back over the last few weeks and trying to take an inventory of the good and bad things in my quit and life in general around me. Things are starting to have new angles and fresh perspectives with a mind clear of the bitch and constant fog. But, what they forget to tell you (or you neglect to "hear" or read) is that the struggle to remain free of the bitch is far from over at the 100 day point.
If anything, I would describe it as the first 100 days are training and learning time to get ready for the fight that's coming from that day 101- when ever it stops for me point. I go for days at a time for dipping my fake dip and not even really even thinking about actual nicotine or cravings. But, then, it will hit like I don't know what. All of the sudden I'll either just go from zero - pissed off in a second and for what I don't even know what triggered. Are they craves? Am I really that much of a dick? Will these last forever?
I will say with 100% certainty and proudly... It is a small percentage of the time, most days, like I said I don't even think about dip. I've have some off the most positive things happen in the days since I've quit. I look forward to quitting the fake dip at some point but until then I'm just fine with the fact that it's no longer Nicotine.
Since I've quit Nicotine, I've dropped about 28lbs and managed to keep about 20-22 lbs of that for the entire time so far. I did lay off of the walking and running and wonder if that has lead to some of the craves and so called 'funks' I've fallen into. I've been walking one day since not and it felt good, I was able to jog for longer than I usually can. I can tell it's harder to push my motorcycle around without the weight. I also found an old mountain bike and am currently replacing the gripes and seat and plan on starting to ride the bike as a form of exercise. The wife and I have implemented "no meat Mondays" which I'm a total "meat and potatoes" kind of guy it's hard for even me to believe but, I love eating veggies and trying to stay away from most "crap" food. Still love some sweets, ice cream, and a few others. Just not as often and wife some movement it becomes a reward and treat not a crutch and staple. I hope to continue to get more healthy as a family.
With my fake dip I'm generally not too worried about the "crave" per sea as I have the fake. But, I've noticed in a few situations, that if it wasn't for not having KTC and at least a half assed plan I would have caved. Yesterday at the Monster Jam was a perfect example... In high-n-sight I should have realized it was going to be a bunch of good ole boys like myself and thus alot of dip in Texas! It was an simple 2+2=4 type of deal! LOL However, I'm an ADHD grown up and didn't really put much thought into it. Luckily "my plan" is a loose one in that I'm here daily posting roll, I'm in a chat group that chats daily, I'm friends with some guys on Facebook, I have some guys personal numbers, and know a few local quitter here in town that we do lunch and meet ups. I also, have told mi boss, co-workers, family, friend, and anyone I think will help hold me accountable. I think knowing I can't fail them and also I think a huge part is this time I WANTED TO QUIT AND IT HAS BEEN ALMOST EASY. I think that alone was one of the biggest things.
But, anyway, back to yesterday. There was dip everywhere and I said to someone today... I could see myself pre-KTC buddying up to some random stranger to not seem like a weird-O hitting him up for a dip in a few minutes. Yesterday, I was content to stuff my lip with a little fake and be proud that I've accomplished what I have. I also, enjoyed spending time with my #1 buddy (my 4yr old son Josh). All that being said, I still want to be quit more than anything and will continue to work at it as well as being a better father to my 2 kid-o's, but also to being a better husband.
I know I'm starting to ramble here, but want to mention one more thing/lesson learned that will probably apply to others. I had the unfortunate pleasure of inheriting "the gout" (as we call it around here) from my mothers father most likely. We know he had it. It's a little like arthritis in that it affest mostly the joints in the lower body. They get inflamed and it's just on overall bitch to get around and can hurt like hell just to have say a sheet on you. It's miserable and I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. Luckily, in my 30's I've slowed down on drinking, over the last year cleaned up my diet... Some, still working on it! And overall have not had attacks as often. Having said that I had a pretty bad one just about a week ago that resulted in a trip to the doc for a cortisone shot, a dose pack of steroids, anti-inflammatory meds, and pain killers. Luckily that cortisone shot got me feeling back to normal and not taking pain killers any longer. My whole point being that we may all have something in our health or just "shit" in our personal life that is inevitability going to pop-up on us out of nowhere. Be ready, be prepared, IT STILL SUCKS sometimes.... But, remember 1 problem + Nicotine just = 2 problems!
Stay quit my friends! to day 130 and beyond, here I come. You better not slow down Nic Bitch - Run, Bitch, Run... I'm on your ass!
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Day 173 - Update - ***News Flash!!! They don't tell you that 100-200 sucks worse than the 1st 100 days!!!***
First thing I would want to say is that being quit is still a big focus and one of the most amazing feelings EVER! I'm trying to stay active in my text group and with posting in multiple months. I must admit, that I feel the forum has lost something. I don't mean the drama, I don't mean anyone that's left, or anything tangible like that... It's just become a chore, a routine. I go in and post and rarely bother even reading our own month. My chat group on the other hand is still tight and we continue to keep each other on-point.
Biggest change - I think the fake dip is wearing off... It was a huge, huge, huge... Ginormous crutch for me. It still is, however I can see it doesn't really work anymore. In the beginning, I don't know if it's placebo effect, mental, or what but it helped me big time. I'm slowly becoming aware that I still crave nicotine and the fake really does little to deter them any longer. After dinner if I put in a big fatty of fake... my brain says, "yea, so what it's not real dip".
It seems it passes fast, but always leaves me feeling like a low life addict, even if just for a few minutes. It also leaves me thinking fuck this, it sucks, I'm gonna crave that shit forever.
I also want to make it very clear that even feeling a little down, or like I'm hitting some type of funk my resolve has only been strengthened. I've seen weaker and stronger men fail, I'm determined as hell that I will not... I can't... I won't! FUCK YOU NIC!
Regards,
Quit on ladies and gents!
One more thing - On a positive, Saturday night went out to eat with the fam. I was only like half ninja dipper so I always carried a can in my front pocket and hated it. I've been trying to leave it in the car or in my bag at work to not have it on me. Saturday night after we ate, (and drank a few), we walked out to the car, loaded up the kidos and I rode while the wifey drove us home about 20 minutes. Watched a little TV and went to bed all WITHOUT a dip of fake. I'm sure the beers helped, but a win is a win!
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Day 173 - Update - ***News Flash!!! They don't tell you that 100-200 sucks worse than the 1st 100 days!!!***
First thing I would want to say is that being quit is still a big focus and one of the most amazing feelings EVER! I'm trying to stay active in my text group and with posting in multiple months. I must admit, that I feel the forum has lost something. I don't mean the drama, I don't mean anyone that's left, or anything tangible like that... It's just become a chore, a routine. I go in and post and rarely bother even reading our own month. My chat group on the other hand is still tight and we continue to keep each other on-point.
Biggest change - I think the fake dip is wearing off... It was a huge, huge, huge... Ginormous crutch for me. It still is, however I can see it doesn't really work anymore. In the beginning, I don't know if it's placebo effect, mental, or what but it helped me big time. I'm slowly becoming aware that I still crave nicotine and the fake really does little to deter them any longer. After dinner if I put in a big fatty of fake... my brain says, "yea, so what it's not real dip".
It seems it passes fast, but always leaves me feeling like a low life addict, even if just for a few minutes. It also leaves me thinking fuck this, it sucks, I'm gonna crave that shit forever.
I also want to make it very clear that even feeling a little down, or like I'm hitting some type of funk my resolve has only been strengthened. I've seen weaker and stronger men fail, I'm determined as hell that I will not... I can't... I won't! FUCK YOU NIC!
Regards,
Quit on ladies and gents!
One more thing - On a positive, Saturday night went out to eat with the fam. I was only like half ninja dipper so I always carried a can in my front pocket and hated it. I've been trying to leave it in the car or in my bag at work to not have it on me. Saturday night after we ate, (and drank a few), we walked out to the car, loaded up the kidos and I rode while the wifey drove us home about 20 minutes. Watched a little TV and went to bed all WITHOUT a dip of fake. I'm sure the beers helped, but a win is a win!
You got this brother! Just think, you have the tools now to combat the bitch. Days 1-100 you were in a vast ocean without a rudder, now at least you are going in the right direction and before you know it you'll see land and everything will get better and that's a guarantee!
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Day 173 - Update - ***News Flash!!! They don't tell you that 100-200 sucks worse than the 1st 100 days!!!***
First thing I would want to say is that being quit is still a big focus and one of the most amazing feelings EVER! I'm trying to stay active in my text group and with posting in multiple months. I must admit, that I feel the forum has lost something. I don't mean the drama, I don't mean anyone that's left, or anything tangible like that... It's just become a chore, a routine. I go in and post and rarely bother even reading our own month. My chat group on the other hand is still tight and we continue to keep each other on-point.
Biggest change - I think the fake dip is wearing off... It was a huge, huge, huge... Ginormous crutch for me. It still is, however I can see it doesn't really work anymore. In the beginning, I don't know if it's placebo effect, mental, or what but it helped me big time. I'm slowly becoming aware that I still crave nicotine and the fake really does little to deter them any longer. After dinner if I put in a big fatty of fake... my brain says, "yea, so what it's not real dip".
It seems it passes fast, but always leaves me feeling like a low life addict, even if just for a few minutes. It also leaves me thinking fuck this, it sucks, I'm gonna crave that shit forever.
I also want to make it very clear that even feeling a little down, or like I'm hitting some type of funk my resolve has only been strengthened. I've seen weaker and stronger men fail, I'm determined as hell that I will not... I can't... I won't! FUCK YOU NIC!
Regards,
Quit on ladies and gents!
One more thing - On a positive, Saturday night went out to eat with the fam. I was only like half ninja dipper so I always carried a can in my front pocket and hated it. I've been trying to leave it in the car or in my bag at work to not have it on me. Saturday night after we ate, (and drank a few), we walked out to the car, loaded up the kidos and I rode while the wifey drove us home about 20 minutes. Watched a little TV and went to bed all WITHOUT a dip of fake. I'm sure the beers helped, but a win is a win!
You got this brother! Just think, you have the tools now to combat the bitch. Days 1-100 you were in a vast ocean without a rudder, now at least you are going in the right direction and before you know it you'll see land and everything will get better and that's a guarantee!
Keep it strong Snoop. I have been going through times where it does feel more like a chore. I make the choice to continue to post. Keep that in your mind. It is a conscious decision I make to keep posting end. You know the jerks will keep you honest. Find someone or something to get behind and keep them on task. Invest in a new quitter, it helps keep things relevant. Just keep involved. If you need anything you know where to find me.
Also I'll need a ride to Austin, when we fly into Dallas.
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Day 173 - Update - ***News Flash!!! They don't tell you that 100-200 sucks worse than the 1st 100 days!!!***
First thing I would want to say is that being quit is still a big focus and one of the most amazing feelings EVER! I'm trying to stay active in my text group and with posting in multiple months. I must admit, that I feel the forum has lost something. I don't mean the drama, I don't mean anyone that's left, or anything tangible like that... It's just become a chore, a routine. I go in and post and rarely bother even reading our own month. My chat group on the other hand is still tight and we continue to keep each other on-point.
Biggest change - I think the fake dip is wearing off... It was a huge, huge, huge... Ginormous crutch for me. It still is, however I can see it doesn't really work anymore. In the beginning, I don't know if it's placebo effect, mental, or what but it helped me big time. I'm slowly becoming aware that I still crave nicotine and the fake really does little to deter them any longer. After dinner if I put in a big fatty of fake... my brain says, "yea, so what it's not real dip".
It seems it passes fast, but always leaves me feeling like a low life addict, even if just for a few minutes. It also leaves me thinking fuck this, it sucks, I'm gonna crave that shit forever.
I also want to make it very clear that even feeling a little down, or like I'm hitting some type of funk my resolve has only been strengthened. I've seen weaker and stronger men fail, I'm determined as hell that I will not... I can't... I won't! FUCK YOU NIC!
Regards,
Quit on ladies and gents!
One more thing - On a positive, Saturday night went out to eat with the fam. I was only like half ninja dipper so I always carried a can in my front pocket and hated it. I've been trying to leave it in the car or in my bag at work to not have it on me. Saturday night after we ate, (and drank a few), we walked out to the car, loaded up the kidos and I rode while the wifey drove us home about 20 minutes. Watched a little TV and went to bed all WITHOUT a dip of fake. I'm sure the beers helped, but a win is a win!
You got this brother! Just think, you have the tools now to combat the bitch. Days 1-100 you were in a vast ocean without a rudder, now at least you are going in the right direction and before you know it you'll see land and everything will get better and that's a guarantee!
Keep it strong Snoop. I have been going through times where it does feel more like a chore. I make the choice to continue to post. Keep that in your mind. It is a conscious decision I make to keep posting end. You know the jerks will keep you honest. Find someone or something to get behind and keep them on task. Invest in a new quitter, it helps keep things relevant. Just keep involved. If you need anything you know where to find me.
Also I'll need a ride to Austin, when we fly into Dallas.
Taco my friend we will always crave but you will always be man enough to say no! You could never let yourself or your brothers down! Always remember there's a damn good chance as long as you're posting intros and other groups you probably helping someone quit and in the long run help save there life! Stay strong my friend and I will be honest with you I crave every damn day and I will always be an addict, not by choice but stupidity!
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DAY - 235 Update:
SO today is day 235 without any nicotine and while the decision is still cognizant on most days it's also beginning to sink in that I no longer use nicotine. Life is more normal and getting better all of the time. I feel like; just as I read that at somewhere around 180 days it really sunk in and became less of a daily choice and more of a new way of life. I don't plan to EVER use again.
I'm still on the fake, but I've noticed that I use it less and will get off of it when the time comes. Yesterday I woke up and didn't get a fake dip till noon which is something for me. It's generally one of the first things I do in the morning.
While I'm not nearly as active in other groups as I was - I still strive to post in my month 100% of the time and honestly I rely on my text support "the Circle Jerks" more than any other tool. I know at any second I have chat and the forum, but at this point feel the chat group is enough for me. Honestly, I feel like I could stop signing roll and be successful in my quit. HOWEVER, I've learned enough here and about myself over the years to know it could be the nic-bitch creeping back in to my now, newly settled brain. FUCK THAT, I'm not letting that door open even a little. I will continue to post with my brotha's and sista's on KTC. I'm thankful for you all and posting roll everyday to be quit is a small trade that I can make daily to be 1,000% sure that I'm still quit!
I love you all, you helped save my life!
Anyone reading this thinking you can't do it.... You fucking can! You make up your mind to quit and it's an amazing feeling to be free again.
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DAY - 235 Update:
SO today is day 235 without any nicotine and while the decision is still cognizant on most days it's also beginning to sink in that I no longer use nicotine. Life is more normal and getting better all of the time. I feel like; just as I read that at somewhere around 180 days it really sunk in and became less of a daily choice and more of a new way of life. I don't plan to EVER use again.
I'm still on the fake, but I've noticed that I use it less and will get off of it when the time comes. Yesterday I woke up and didn't get a fake dip till noon which is something for me. It's generally one of the first things I do in the morning.
While I'm not nearly as active in other groups as I was - I still strive to post in my month 100% of the time and honestly I rely on my text support "the Circle Jerks" more than any other tool. I know at any second I have chat and the forum, but at this point feel the chat group is enough for me. Honestly, I feel like I could stop signing roll and be successful in my quit. HOWEVER, I've learned enough here and about myself over the years to know it could be the nic-bitch creeping back in to my now, newly settled brain. FUCK THAT, I'm not letting that door open even a little. I will continue to post with my brotha's and sista's on KTC. I'm thankful for you all and posting roll everyday to be quit is a small trade that I can make daily to be 1,000% sure that I'm still quit!
I love you all, you helped save my life!
Anyone reading this thinking you can't do it.... You fucking can! You make up your mind to quit and it's an amazing feeling to be free again.
Good stuff. I love it.
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DAY - 235 Update:
SO today is day 235 without any nicotine and while the decision is still cognizant on most days it's also beginning to sink in that I no longer use nicotine. Life is more normal and getting better all of the time. I feel like; just as I read that at somewhere around 180 days it really sunk in and became less of a daily choice and more of a new way of life. I don't plan to EVER use again.
I'm still on the fake, but I've noticed that I use it less and will get off of it when the time comes. Yesterday I woke up and didn't get a fake dip till noon which is something for me. It's generally one of the first things I do in the morning.
While I'm not nearly as active in other groups as I was - I still strive to post in my month 100% of the time and honestly I rely on my text support "the Circle Jerks" more than any other tool. I know at any second I have chat and the forum, but at this point feel the chat group is enough for me. Honestly, I feel like I could stop signing roll and be successful in my quit. HOWEVER, I've learned enough here and about myself over the years to know it could be the nic-bitch creeping back in to my now, newly settled brain. FUCK THAT, I'm not letting that door open even a little. I will continue to post with my brotha's and sista's on KTC. I'm thankful for you all and posting roll everyday to be quit is a small trade that I can make daily to be 1,000% sure that I'm still quit!
I love you all, you helped save my life!
Anyone reading this thinking you can't do it.... You fucking can! You make up your mind to quit and it's an amazing feeling to be free again.
One day... yep, one day I'm going to be just like this guy. Something to look forward to. Very cool.
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DAY - 235 Update:
SO today is day 235 without any nicotine and while the decision is still cognizant on most days it's also beginning to sink in that I no longer use nicotine. Life is more normal and getting better all of the time. I feel like; just as I read that at somewhere around 180 days it really sunk in and became less of a daily choice and more of a new way of life. I don't plan to EVER use again.
I'm still on the fake, but I've noticed that I use it less and will get off of it when the time comes. Yesterday I woke up and didn't get a fake dip till noon which is something for me. It's generally one of the first things I do in the morning.
While I'm not nearly as active in other groups as I was - I still strive to post in my month 100% of the time and honestly I rely on my text support "the Circle Jerks" more than any other tool. I know at any second I have chat and the forum, but at this point feel the chat group is enough for me. Honestly, I feel like I could stop signing roll and be successful in my quit. HOWEVER, I've learned enough here and about myself over the years to know it could be the nic-bitch creeping back in to my now, newly settled brain. FUCK THAT, I'm not letting that door open even a little. I will continue to post with my brotha's and sista's on KTC. I'm thankful for you all and posting roll everyday to be quit is a small trade that I can make daily to be 1,000% sure that I'm still quit!
I love you all, you helped save my life!
Anyone reading this thinking you can't do it.... You fucking can! You make up your mind to quit and it's an amazing feeling to be free again.
This is how you do it-- one day at a time really stacks up. Great quit still going strong Tx!
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Update: Day 245 - "Keep your foot on the gas!"
As much as you (and me, mainly me actually) want to put that Nic-O-Bitch in the rear view mirror and make her eat your dust... You don't get away that fast! At least that has been my reality. The last ten days, it hit me... It sunk it... The fake dip doesn't work anymore... AND... I can feel my body, mind, something somewhere in me still craving that fucking nasty can of dip!
It's almost weird, I don't have any trouble standing in line at corner stores, the grocery store, or even seeing someone else dip. I don't even usually consider a few of my buddies smoke. NEVER consider a cig. But, I can tell at times lately that I just feel tense and unsettled. Every once in awhile I get up really early in the morning (ok, this is happening more and more) and can't get back to sleep. It just sunk in the other day that my best guess are these are all craves or tied to nicotine in some way. That fucking whore can't take a hint - get on down the road bitch - we're done!
That said, it's been 245 of kicking quitting. I've been engaged in my chat group and we even have a get together (sorry Jerks, couldn't call it that other thing in public) in Austin later this month. I'm also going to start posting up with my 1st mentor so-to-speak on KTC. I'm going to get re-engaged to be sure I keep this bitch licked. I rode my bike 14 miles yesterday, exercise HAS to be one of the best tools, IMO. May even try and pick up a newb to post with to 100. I urge you all to do the same, it's for you as much as it is anyone else. It's more like you have to take that Nic-Bitch and hang her on the rearview mirror and let her dangle in the windshield like a ghetto tree air-freshener. A reminder or the bad decisions we've made. Don't get lazy and find yourself in bed with death.
Peace Out!
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Way to man up before it was to late taco! It's a battle for us all, just gotta be the man. Damn proud to be quit with you!
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Way to man up before it was to late taco! It's a battle for us all, just gotta be the man. Damn proud to be quit with you!
Thanks Pab, glad to be here quit with you also.
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Update: Day 911 - "Comma countdown, baby"
I don't know what to say really... It's been over two years since I broke the chains of nicotine slavery. Without this site, the help of the Jerks and all the other support here I don't believe for a minute that I'd be here still being sucessfully quit. I've come to a point that if I'm at 7/11 or any store and see someone buying dip... I tell them about KTC like a preacher thumping on his bible! It works people!
Some one told me a few days ago that I was on the "comma countdown" and it stuck with me... To be going on 1,000 days with out being a slave to that Nic-o-bitch. I took a few minutes today and read back thru this post since the begining. It's definitely different now and SO much better without the poison. I quit the fake at one point for over 70 days but I'm back on it. Still pretty often but hey, it's better than the alternative. If you are thinking of dipping or are in the first few days, weeks, months of your quit and find yourself reading my post, STAY THE COURSE! It's worth being free.
Lastly, I've made life long friends in our group "The Jerks" to the point we had our 2nd get together and feel like these guys as well as this site are a huge factor in my sucess in staying quit. That's all
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Update: Day 911 - "Comma countdown, baby"
I don't know what to say really... It's been over two years since I broke the chains of nicotine slavery. Without this site, the help of the Jerks and all the other support here I don't believe for a minute that I'd be here still being sucessfully quit. I've come to a point that if I'm at 7/11 or any store and see someone buying dip... I tell them about KTC like a preacher thumping on his bible! It works people!
Some one told me a few days ago that I was on the "comma countdown" and it stuck with me... To be going on 1,000 days with out being a slave to that Nic-o-bitch. I took a few minutes today and read back thru this post since the begining. It's definitely different now and SO much better without the poison. I quit the fake at one point for over 70 days but I'm back on it. Still pretty often but hey, it's better than the alternative. If you are thinking of dipping or are in the first few days, weeks, months of your quit and find yourself reading my post, STAY THE COURSE! It's worth being free.
Lastly, I've made life long friends in our group "The Jerks" to the point we had our 2nd get together and feel like these guys as well as this site are a huge factor in my sucess in staying quit. That's all
Can I get an AMEN ??!!!
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Update: Day 911 - "Comma countdown, baby"
I don't know what to say really... It's been over two years since I broke the chains of nicotine slavery. Without this site, the help of the Jerks and all the other support here I don't believe for a minute that I'd be here still being sucessfully quit. I've come to a point that if I'm at 7/11 or any store and see someone buying dip... I tell them about KTC like a preacher thumping on his bible! It works people!
Some one told me a few days ago that I was on the "comma countdown" and it stuck with me... To be going on 1,000 days with out being a slave to that Nic-o-bitch. I took a few minutes today and read back thru this post since the begining. It's definitely different now and SO much better without the poison. I quit the fake at one point for over 70 days but I'm back on it. Still pretty often but hey, it's better than the alternative. If you are thinking of dipping or are in the first few days, weeks, months of your quit and find yourself reading my post, STAY THE COURSE! It's worth being free.
Lastly, I've made life long friends in our group "The Jerks" to the point we had our 2nd get together and feel like these guys as well as this site are a huge factor in my sucess in staying quit. That's all
Can I get an AMEN ??!!!
Amen!
Rawls 880