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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: frankiekilledthecan on May 19, 2015, 01:29:00 AM
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Good luck man. Make sure you start reading up on addiction. It sounds like you need to do some learning.
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Glad you're here! ! I hope by now you've found your quit group and have posted roll. Lean on your quit group. Trade phone numbers with a few and help each other. It won't be easy, but anything with doing ever is.
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Hmmm might wanna read up some more in the meantime good luck
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Ironic you didn't add these reasons to quit:
1. Don't want oral cancer
2. Don't want to die at 28
3. Don't want to eat/drink out of a feeding tube
4. I want to keep my jaw, cheeks, and lips because it is almost a basic human right to have these.
Don't minimize addiction. Don't minimize the power or evil of this drug. Hasn't it already robbed you enough in time and money? What has chewing really done for you?
I am 135 days removed from this cancer in a can, and the sinister drug still whispers in my ear. Get on roll (I don't see you on it yet and that's a problem here), and start QUITTING.
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but I LOVE chew. Chewing is something that gives me that relaxing feeling I strive to find elsewhere. It may sound weird, but I love the feeling of it tearing into my gums/lip. I don't know why in the world it is pleasant to me, but its something I look forward to.
Until this ^^^ changes... I smell failure.
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Frank, I'm glad you're here. But you're swerving all over road getting here. But, let me start to set you straight. Learn how and why we post roll. Then do it. Then read everything else on this site. Then re-read everything else on this site. Keep doing that until you realize that you HATE dipping, and that luck has nothing to do with quitting.
Dipping is relaxing is BULLSHIT. Nicotine withdrawals cause nervous anxiety. You just keep answering the call. In short, you're a slave. It's okay...we all were.
That shit about your dad making it harder to quit if user rationalization BULLSHIT. If you're good and goddam serious about quitting, you would rather cut your fingers off than use them to put your daddy's snuff in your mouth. GET ANGRY. You can't win by glamorizing your own stupid suicide.
Your dad may not make this journey with you. Nobody can do this for you...or him. You have to want it more than a drowning man wants air. YOU HAVE TO GET SERIOUS. If you think you're up for the fight, then come on. You can do this...and it won't be because you lucked into anything. Hope and luck are bullshit. You've got to decide that you won't put that shit in your face come Hell or high water. And then YOU have to keep your word. We're here to support. But this fight is about YOU.
The good news is that you can do it. Check out the Quit Groups. All those bad ass quitters have been right where you are right now and are living free ONE DAY AT A TIME. Join us.
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Frank, I'm glad you're here. But you're swerving all over road getting here. But, let me start to set you straight. Learn how and why we post roll. Then do it. Then read everything else on this site. Then re-read everything else on this site. Keep doing that until you realize that you HATE dipping, and that luck has nothing to do with quitting.
Dipping is relaxing is BULLSHIT. Nicotine withdrawals cause nervous anxiety. You just keep answering the call. In short, you're a slave. It's okay...we all were.
That shit about your dad making it harder to quit if user rationalization BULLSHIT. If you're good and goddam serious about quitting, you would rather cut your fingers off than use them to put your daddy's snuff in your mouth. GET ANGRY. You can't win by glamorizing your own stupid suicide.
Your dad may not make this journey with you. Nobody can do this for you...or him. You have to want it more than a drowning man wants air. YOU HAVE TO GET SERIOUS. If you think you're up for the fight, then come on. You can do this...and it won't be because you lucked into anything. Hope and luck are bullshit. You've got to decide that you won't put that shit in your face come Hell or high water. And then YOU have to keep your word. We're here to support. But this fight is about YOU.
The good news is that you can do it. Check out the Quit Groups. All those bad ass quitters have been right where you are right now and are living free ONE DAY AT A TIME. Join us.
Nevermind, just read what he said again. I can't break it down any better than that.
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Hello all,
I just joined and wish to gain a group of support to go along on my journey to stop chewing. I'm 26 and I have been chewing since I was around 16 years old. 10 YEARS. Holy S*** it's really insane to think about that. I started with, I believe, Skoal straight. One of my buddies had me try it (yep, peer pressure's a motha****a). From there I moved onto Grizzly Wintergreen in college, then onto Copenhagen Wintergreen, then Copenhagen Wintergreen Pouches, and now I've been on a stint of throwing over that $7 a can (I'm in the silicon valley) to the Copenhagen Long Cut for the passed 6-8 months. I have also been known to have the few social cigarettes as well when out on the town, I don't wish to substitute I loathe cigs, but I LOVE chew. Chewing is something that gives me that relaxing feeling I strive to find elsewhere. It may sound weird, but I love the feeling of it tearing into my gums/lip. I don't know why in the world it is pleasant to me, but its something I look forward to. I have cleared my surroundings of it and haven't had anyone around me that chews for a long time, except my father whom I am an hour and a half from, but head straight for his pouches when I'm back home. This is however my only worry in my journey. I really want him to join me too... but he has made several attempts with no luck. I really hope my journey inspires him to quit as well.
I believe I have a mildly addictive personality when it comes to chewing. I don't have an issue quitting cold turkey at first. I get some headaches which can send me running to the can, but I have had enough. Here's why:
1. Its incredibly disgusting (like for real, my mouth sometimes smells like the damn garbage can on the side yard)
2. I focused on chewing because its SO easy to hide, which is incredibly inconvenient and worrisome, a huge problem.
3. It's another facet to add to my struggling control over my will power. I chew after meals to control my appetite. This is a huge problem for me because I have always struggled with my weight. Not obese to say, but just overweight. This has been a method to control NOT to keep eating because I have a chew in. Currently still overweight, been hitting the gym a lot more though and almost into my 7th week of my 12 week program, but not anywhere near where I want to be.
4. Cost. As I said before $7 dollars for the good stuff for around 6-8 months, maybe 1-2 cans sometimes a week. Ouch wallet, ouch.
5. And the kicker... A 2-can-a-week snuff dipper gets as much nicotine as a 1-1/2 pack-a-day smoker does. THIS FACT ALONE.
Taking some tips about my quit day... I can't really turn to many I know to build a support group because, in fact, they have no idea I chew. I have kept it THAT under wraps. People I live with, girlfriends, best friends. NOPE. Nobody. So I look for your tips, advice, best substitutes you have used. I have found that it is an oral fixation type of addiction for me so anything to substitute the feeling of having a chew in your mouth.
Thank you all and maybe if you have had a similar story or experience with chew and are looking to quit. Reach out. I'm more than up to discuss your journey and mine. We're in this together! :D
Take care and wish me luck,
Frank
P.S. anyone see this emoticon? 'boob' awesome.
Frank,
As a fellow ninja I just want to say that you'll have more than enough support from your KTC brothers. Go load up on fake dip and seeds and stop using nicotine right now.
What you should worry about is posting roll today and promising everyone here that you won't use nicotine today. Keep your promise. Repeat. That's it.
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PS this one is better:
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Frank,
Welcome to KTC. Fellow 26 y/o former ninja dipper. These other guys have already made some good points so I won't waste too much of your time being an echo, but a couple things:
You've done well listing the reasons you want to quit. As time goes on sometimes we can forget and I think you'll find it extremely helpful to have something to look back on the will remind you how you felt in the beginning. However, I would focus more on your disdain for dip and less on what you like about it. It's your job to remember why you want to quit and nicotine will be doing it's damnedest to remind you why you shouldn't; if you're going to be successful in this I wouldn't make it any easier on her.
Addictive personality is a cop out and it's learned. Don't give yourself any reason to fail and "I gave up because I have an addictive personality" is not acceptable. You give any person an addictive substance and they will become an addict. Now is the time for you to reprogram yourself and get back to where you were prior to dip.
Coping can be a struggle for a ninja dipper. There is no one in your life who knows that you're fighting something and no one to relate. In this community we can fill that void. Someone is bound to have gone through the same things as you and will be able to relate so do not be afraid to reach out. Also feel free to use us as a punching bag if any quitting stress starts to bleed into your social life.
Glad you found this place and I'm sure you can be successful in this. Move forward with confidence for what you're going to be and hatred for what you were.
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I was a 1.5 can user a day. I loved it too. I "quit" 40-50 times in 17 years. Then I decided I hated chewing and everything about it in March 2014. And it still took a month for me to quit. This addiction we share is horrible, yet can be controlled. You have to want to be quit as bad as you have ever wanted anything. Even after a year there are bad days, but I have a network of quitters now that I can go to and get the help I need.
Do you want it bad enough?
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I was a 1.5 can user a day. I loved it too. I "quit" 40-50 times in 17 years. Then I decided I hated chewing and everything about it in March 2014. And it still took a month for me to quit. This addiction we share is horrible, yet can be controlled. You have to want to be quit as bad as you have ever wanted anything. Even after a year there are bad days, but I have a network of quitters now that I can go to and get the help I need.
Do you want it bad enough?
Hey Frank take this ^^^^ and ask yourself if you're ready! It takes alot of want to, to get this done. We all rooting for you but you've got to help yourself as well as letting us help you! I quit with you today!
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I was a 1.5 can user a day. I loved it too. I "quit" 40-50 times in 17 years. Then I decided I hated chewing and everything about it in March 2014. And it still took a month for me to quit. This addiction we share is horrible, yet can be controlled. You have to want to be quit as bad as you have ever wanted anything. Even after a year there are bad days, but I have a network of quitters now that I can go to and get the help I need.
Do you want it bad enough?
Hey Frank take this ^^^^ and ask yourself if you're ready! It takes alot of want to, to get this done. We all rooting for you but you've got to help yourself as well as letting us help you! I quit with you today!
And only you determine your success here. First thing it takes is a backbone. Don't worry about showing us anything. Show yourself. Only you have to look at yourself in the mirror each day.
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I was a 1.5 can user a day. I loved it too. I "quit" 40-50 times in 17 years. Then I decided I hated chewing and everything about it in March 2014. And it still took a month for me to quit. This addiction we share is horrible, yet can be controlled. You have to want to be quit as bad as you have ever wanted anything. Even after a year there are bad days, but I have a network of quitters now that I can go to and get the help I need.
Do you want it bad enough?
Hey Frank take this ^^^^ and ask yourself if you're ready! It takes alot of want to, to get this done. We all rooting for you but you've got to help yourself as well as letting us help you! I quit with you today!
And only you determine your success here. First thing it takes is a backbone. Don't worry about showing us anything. Show yourself. Only you have to look at yourself in the mirror each day.
Thumble, Pabst, and Dunfur hit it on the head.
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Following.
I'm supportive of you and reading the comments to help myself.
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but I LOVE chew. Chewing is something that gives me that relaxing feeling I strive to find elsewhere. It may sound weird, but I love the feeling of it tearing into my gums/lip. I don't know why in the world it is pleasant to me, but its something I look forward to.
Until this ^^^ changes... I smell failure.
Hey Applejack thanks for your reply. In retrospect, nicotine is the stimulant that does provide the relaxing feeling I associated with chewing obviously. So I made the mistake by stating the act of chewing is something that relaxes me, when no it is nicotine that relaxes me. I agree this does need to change. All of the things I mentioned referring to "loving" about chewing need to change. I mentioned to have "loved" the feeling of it tearing my gums is an association to my addiction to an oral fixation. I look forward to any advice, tips, information you may provide instead of anything you may smell. Because I only inhale success.
You're still making mistakes.
Nicotine may have certain effects early on . . but deep into your addiction, it isn't relaxing you. You are getting agitated because of WITHDRAWALS. Nicotine merely keeps the withdrawals at bay. That's not "relaxed." That's just being an addict.
When dipping you're in a near constant state of withdrawal. Yeah you get that first five minutes of that fattie--the rest of the time? You're coming down.
I'm glad you found this place. Read. A lot. There are a lot of quitters who have done so and been successful.
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Hey Frank, I can tell you're extremely interested in reading about quitting and are dying to just soak up as much info as possible. That's really great!
I can simplify everything for you and give you the key to quitting. The key is simply to make a promise to quit every day to fellow addicts and keeping that promise. The fellow addicts will then hold you accountable for following through with that promise.
I know this works because in 17 years of dipping I tried every method of quitting besides posting a promise to quit every day. Nothing worked. I'd usually caved after just a few days. I always convinced myself that there would be a better time to quit further down the road. I'm now on day 130 of being quit and it's all due to KTC and my commitment I make on a daily basis.
So you can read all you want, and that helps the quit, but ultimately you'll probably fail unless you commit to posting every damn day. Let's see you get on that roll. If you need help figuring out how to post, just let us know and we can get you situated.
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Where'd you go man?
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Where'd you go man?
Not everyone is a quitter Castle, but you and I are today.
Frankie, get your shit in order and get back here. You will take some lumps, but save you live as well.
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Where'd you go man?
Not everyone is a quitter Castle, but you and I are today.
Frankie, get your shit in order and get back here. You will take some lumps, but save you live as well.
He's one that loves dipping more than living! Sometimes we can only do so much! The rest is up to him!
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Frank, I have the same problem. I did it in secrecy....that was almost half the lure. So no support options.
I honestly recommend telling as many people as possible. This is how I stopped drinking. You need to make sure your substance is not something you hide. You need no trap doors. You need to have the feeling that if you were to start again that you'd have to tell everyone. Make yourself accountable to more than yourself. This has been what's kept me from drinking for two years, and I hope it works with chew.
Good luck. This seems like a good place to start.
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Frank,
If you read this...
one thing I have learned from my numerous failed attempts at quitting is that it only gets harder and harder every single time. If I were to dip again today after 85 days quit, not only would I be dipping everysingle day again, I would probably be throwing in fatter lips. It has happened every single time. Make this quit your last quit. Don't make it harder than it has to be.
Quit with you today
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Where'd you go man?
Not everyone is a quitter Castle, but you and I are today.
Frankie, get your shit in order and get back here. You will take some lumps, but save you live as well.
Im here fellers! 12 days all is well!!
Frank get serious about this shit! Post roll EDD! You can do this all it takes is wanting to be free! It's all mental from here on out! Grab your sac and quit being a damn pus and get this shit done!
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Where'd you go man?
Not everyone is a quitter Castle, but you and I are today.
Frankie, get your shit in order and get back here. You will take some lumps, but save you live as well.
Im here fellers! 12 days all is well!!
First - I love your avatar. That is a riot.
Next - if you are serious... READ THIS VERY CAREFULLY... If you are serious, post roll. It is the price of admission to this site. It is the base on which all of our quits are built. If you aren't serious, this isn't the place for you. In these halls we quit. We quit one day at a time and we give our word to ourselves and others, and we keep our word.
I hope you are serious. Quitting will change your life. But either quit life a quitter or leave.
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Where'd you go man?
Not everyone is a quitter Castle, but you and I are today.
Frankie, get your shit in order and get back here. You will take some lumps, but save you live as well.
Im here fellers! 12 days all is well!!
First - I love your avatar. That is a riot.
Next - if you are serious... READ THIS VERY CAREFULLY... If you are serious, post roll. It is the price of admission to this site. It is the base on which all of our quits are built. If you aren't serious, this isn't the place for you. In these halls we quit. We quit one day at a time and we give our word to ourselves and others, and we keep our word.
I hope you are serious. Quitting will change your life. But either quit life a quitter or leave.
Frankie, I remember you trying to quit without posting on the forum. Last time you checked in you were quit 12 days. Would love to know how that's worked out for you.