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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: Done4Me on May 07, 2014, 06:48:00 PM
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I'm old, this is my first BB post. I don't have an iPhone or earphones or a cool winter hat that I wear in the summer. We call them toboggans down south but I hear those are sleds in the north per my yankee wife. I recently hit my 25 year service anniversary at work. Looking back I realized I started dipping on my first day. I've never quit until now. That's 9100 cans of Skoal at roughly 35 grand. I'm a cheap bastard and it pisses me off typing that number when it could have meant a ton of other things.
How did I get this far to realize it's time to quit? I've been worming my wife into the meetings with our financial adviser. We recently had a brother in law die and my wife's sister was left behind without a friggin clue about anything. It's been a mess and I don't want that to be my wife if something happens to me. I'll admit I'm OC on retirement planning. I've got spreadsheets out the arse with different projections, 62, 65, 67 blah blah. I was driving home after our last meeting and realized what an utter fool I am watching the master financial plan if I'm not taking care of the master me plan and dipping for 25 years is not a life enhancement strategy.
So on Sunday May 4 at 11 pm, I spit out my last dip ever and drank my temporarily last beer for awhile. This is going to be a challenge but I'm up for it. I'm convinced I will win. The fog is proof every minute that I am winning.
My laptop crapped out today and I had to go into the office. The guy who hired me 25 years back and gave me my first dip was all interested in my quit. Yes he is still a dipper. I'll slowly build him up and get him on this site. He's a good dude but grumpy as hell, can't wait to see him cold turkey.
So that's my story, at least the highlights. I've got a great wife and kids. The more we talk the more I'll tell. Understand this though, it took a hell of a lot for me to quit dip and alcohol on the same night but the only chance I have to kick the dip is without drinking. I'm a 6 to 10 beer a night guy with at least a couple of shots towards the end to help me sleep. I tend to not keep count on weekends. Not getting too much sleep these last few nights hence my late intro post. Judge me, I don't give a damn. Like I told my wife, the next 30 days minimum for me are going to be just that, for me. I don't care what anyone else thinks and stay out of my way, of course in the nicest possible way.
4 hours 15 minutes till day 4.
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I'm old, this is my first BB post. I don't have an iPhone or earphones or a cool winter hat that I wear in the summer. We call them toboggans down south but I hear those are sleds in the north per my yankee wife. I recently hit my 25 year service anniversary at work. Looking back I realized I started dipping on my first day. I've never quit until now. That's 9100 cans of Skoal at roughly 35 grand. I'm a cheap bastard and it pisses me off typing that number when it could have meant a ton of other things.
How did I get this far to realize it's time to quit? I've been worming my wife into the meetings with our financial adviser. We recently had a brother in law die and my wife's sister was left behind without a friggin clue about anything. It's been a mess and I don't want that to be my wife if something happens to me. I'll admit I'm OC on retirement planning. I've got spreadsheets out the arse with different projections, 62, 65, 67 blah blah. I was driving home after our last meeting and realized what an utter fool I am watching the master financial plan if I'm not taking care of the master me plan and dipping for 25 years is not a life enhancement strategy.
So on Sunday May 4 at 11 pm, I spit out my last dip ever and drank my temporarily last beer for awhile. This is going to be a challenge but I'm up for it. I'm convinced I will win. The fog is proof every minute that I am winning.
My laptop crapped out today and I had to go into the office. The guy who hired me 25 years back and gave me my first dip was all interested in my quit. Yes he is still a dipper. I'll slowly build him up and get him on this site. He's a good dude but grumpy as hell, can't wait to see him cold turkey.
So that's my story, at least the highlights. I've got a great wife and kids. The more we talk the more I'll tell. Understand this though, it took a hell of a lot for me to quit dip and alcohol on the same night but the only chance I have to kick the dip is without drinking. I'm a 6 to 10 beer a night guy with at least a couple of shots towards the end to help me sleep. I tend to not keep count on weekends. Not getting too much sleep these last few nights hence my late intro post. Judge me, I don't give a damn. Like I told my wife, the next 30 days minimum for me are going to be just that, for me. I don't care what anyone else thinks and stay out of my way, of course in the nicest possible way.
4 hours 15 minutes till day 4.
I think you have a pretty good attitude.
2 key initiatives that will make the most of KTC in your quit of tobacco/nicotine:
(1) Posting Roll - Do it every morning early. No skipping days, no excuses.
(2) Making Friends - embrace the brotherhood, you need accountability and that's what KTC provides.
If you commit and you are a man of your word, you will have an army of supporters and you will succeed.
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I'm old, this is my first BB post. I don't have an iPhone or earphones or a cool winter hat that I wear in the summer. We call them toboggans down south but I hear those are sleds in the north per my yankee wife. I recently hit my 25 year service anniversary at work. Looking back I realized I started dipping on my first day. I've never quit until now. That's 9100 cans of Skoal at roughly 35 grand. I'm a cheap bastard and it pisses me off typing that number when it could have meant a ton of other things.
How did I get this far to realize it's time to quit? I've been worming my wife into the meetings with our financial adviser. We recently had a brother in law die and my wife's sister was left behind without a friggin clue about anything. It's been a mess and I don't want that to be my wife if something happens to me. I'll admit I'm OC on retirement planning. I've got spreadsheets out the arse with different projections, 62, 65, 67 blah blah. I was driving home after our last meeting and realized what an utter fool I am watching the master financial plan if I'm not taking care of the master me plan and dipping for 25 years is not a life enhancement strategy.
So on Sunday May 4 at 11 pm, I spit out my last dip ever and drank my temporarily last beer for awhile. This is going to be a challenge but I'm up for it. I'm convinced I will win. The fog is proof every minute that I am winning.
My laptop crapped out today and I had to go into the office. The guy who hired me 25 years back and gave me my first dip was all interested in my quit. Yes he is still a dipper. I'll slowly build him up and get him on this site. He's a good dude but grumpy as hell, can't wait to see him cold turkey.
So that's my story, at least the highlights. I've got a great wife and kids. The more we talk the more I'll tell. Understand this though, it took a hell of a lot for me to quit dip and alcohol on the same night but the only chance I have to kick the dip is without drinking. I'm a 6 to 10 beer a night guy with at least a couple of shots towards the end to help me sleep. I tend to not keep count on weekends. Not getting too much sleep these last few nights hence my late intro post. Judge me, I don't give a damn. Like I told my wife, the next 30 days minimum for me are going to be just that, for me. I don't care what anyone else thinks and stay out of my way, of course in the nicest possible way.
4 hours 15 minutes till day 4.
I think you have a pretty good attitude.
2 key initiatives that will make the most of KTC in your quit of tobacco/nicotine:
(1) Posting Roll - Do it every morning early. No skipping days, no excuses.
(2) Making Friends - embrace the brotherhood, you need accountability and that's what KTC provides.
If you commit and you are a man of your word, you will have an army of supporters and you will succeed.
Welcome. I PROMISE you, if you do what Grizclaws said in 1 and 2 you will succeed. It's so simple it makes me laugh now. ( It's hard though) only the serious survive.
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Nice intro done4me and you appear to have the proper thought process going already on how this works. That is a huge part to being successful in your quit. I always like to remind if folks or advise them, depending on whether you know or not. You are a stinking nicotine addict, so am I, so is everyone on here, so that means you (we) are done. Can't have nicotine ever again. That can sound depressing, so remember, you just can't have nicotine today or for this hour or this minute. Took me a long time to realize the addict part of this and you seem sharper then me, so I am sure you know that but it never hurts to be reminded. Second is what Griz told you. Post roll daily, take it seriously, really! Then all you have to do is a be a man of your word for the day and act like you have a set dangling down there and quit with us. Welcome and I quit with you today. You need digits for accountability, shoot me a PM.
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Nice intro. Sounds to me like you've had enough and are really ready to do this. If so, you're certainly in the right place. I can't add much to what these guys have already told you, other than to welcome you and offer any help that I can. If you need anything or want to exchange numbers, let me know.
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Welcome Done4me! You are in the right place to be quit. As stated post roll and read the Welcome Center info. A lot of us are long term chewers, me 3+ years and I've been quit 81 days. So, you can do if you have made the decision and want it bad enough. KTC is here to help.
mb289
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Gratz on Day 4 Done4, I quit with you today. Sounds like you and me should be partners in a party store, as I tend to hit it medium hard daily, and then look out on the weekends.
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I need some expert witness been there done that testimony. I'm on day 4, day 5 starts at 11 pm ET. I quit a can a day and moderately heavy (maybe heavily moderate) alcohol use at the same time. Standard drinking would be 6 to 10 beers a night yes every one. Also at least a couple shots in the waning hours before bed. I know everyone is different but damn I was hoping I would be one of those 72 hour guys where I started to feel better. I'm guessing the combined alcohol/nicotine immediacy has my brain wondering WTF. I'm drinking plenty of water, gum of every flavor. My jaw muscles have never looked better.
What's the over/under on # of days until I get to phase 2? No danger here, still committed but I tend to meet expectations if I have an idea of the next goal. Not sure of the posting location protocol, please show me the way if in the wrong place.
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I need some expert witness been there done that testimony. I'm on day 4, day 5 starts at 11 pm ET. I quit a can a day and moderately heavy (maybe heavily moderate) alcohol use at the same time. Standard drinking would be 6 to 10 beers a night yes every one. Also at least a couple shots in the waning hours before bed. I know everyone is different but damn I was hoping I would be one of those 72 hour guys where I started to feel better. I'm guessing the combined alcohol/nicotine immediacy has my brain wondering WTF. I'm drinking plenty of water, gum of every flavor. My jaw muscles have never looked better.
What's the over/under on # of days until I get to phase 2? No danger here, still committed but I tend to meet expectations if I have an idea of the next goal. Not sure of the posting location protocol, please show me the way if in the wrong place.
I'm not sure what you mean by "phase 2". If your question is "how long does it take nicotine to clear your system?", the answer is around 3 days, I think. If you are asking when most people "clear the fog", then you'll just have to ask a few people. There is A LOT of variation, I think. Personally, I felt pretty good after a week. Unfortunately, it wasn't a permanent feeling. I had stretches where I felt awesome and clear, and I had stretches where I couldn't go 15 seconds without licking the (empty) inside of my lip, or patting my former (now empty) can-pocket. Slowly, the bad stretches became less frequent. Now I can't even remember the last real crave. Read a lot of posts, words of wisdom, HOF speeches, etc, and you'll probably get the answers you're looking for.
Welcome to the suck. It gets better.
PS - as far a "goals" go - it's the same for everyone -- don't use nicotine today.
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I need some expert witness been there done that testimony. I'm on day 4, day 5 starts at 11 pm ET. I quit a can a day and moderately heavy (maybe heavily moderate) alcohol use at the same time. Standard drinking would be 6 to 10 beers a night yes every one. Also at least a couple shots in the waning hours before bed. I know everyone is different but damn I was hoping I would be one of those 72 hour guys where I started to feel better. I'm guessing the combined alcohol/nicotine immediacy has my brain wondering WTF. I'm drinking plenty of water, gum of every flavor. My jaw muscles have never looked better.
What's the over/under on # of days until I get to phase 2? No danger here, still committed but I tend to meet expectations if I have an idea of the next goal. Not sure of the posting location protocol, please show me the way if in the wrong place.
I'm not sure what you mean by "phase 2". If your question is "how long does it take nicotine to clear your system?", the answer is around 3 days, I think. If you are asking when most people "clear the fog", then you'll just have to ask a few people. There is A LOT of variation, I think. Personally, I felt pretty good after a week. Unfortunately, it wasn't a permanent feeling. I had stretches where I felt awesome and clear, and I had stretches where I couldn't go 15 seconds without licking the (empty) inside of my lip, or patting my former (now empty) can-pocket. Slowly, the bad stretches became less frequent. Now I can't even remember the last real crave. Read a lot of posts, words of wisdom, HOF speeches, etc, and you'll probably get the answers you're looking for.
Welcome to the suck. It gets better.
PS - as far a "goals" go - it's the same for everyone -- don't use nicotine today.
That was perfectly said by Zam. I think everyone's experience is different. I was in the fog for about 3 weeks. I can tell you for sure that it continues to gradually get easier and I feel so good now. It really helps to read everything you can here. I pick a quitter I like and read the whole intro. There are some great people here with inspiring quits. It really helped me knowing I was not alone in this. It's pretty scary in the beginning. You can do this.
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My eyes are still blurry and I'm 4 weeks in. The metallic taste to everything is gone, the fog is mostly gone, but I have some acid reflux issues every couple of days probably because I was more of a swallower rather than spitter the last couple of years when I switched to Copenhagen pouches thinking I was doing myself a favor.
Keep your caffeine in check, super spicy things foods like jerky with hot sauce on top are nice, as are pistachios and other lip/mouth smacking shit.
Stay strong, let me know if you need anything.
derv
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I need some expert witness been there done that testimony. I'm on day 4, day 5 starts at 11 pm ET. I quit a can a day and moderately heavy (maybe heavily moderate) alcohol use at the same time. Standard drinking would be 6 to 10 beers a night yes every one. Also at least a couple shots in the waning hours before bed. I know everyone is different but damn I was hoping I would be one of those 72 hour guys where I started to feel better. I'm guessing the combined alcohol/nicotine immediacy has my brain wondering WTF. I'm drinking plenty of water, gum of every flavor. My jaw muscles have never looked better.
What's the over/under on # of days until I get to phase 2? No danger here, still committed but I tend to meet expectations if I have an idea of the next goal. Not sure of the posting location protocol, please show me the way if in the wrong place.
I'm not sure what you mean by "phase 2". If your question is "how long does it take nicotine to clear your system?", the answer is around 3 days, I think. If you are asking when most people "clear the fog", then you'll just have to ask a few people. There is A LOT of variation, I think. Personally, I felt pretty good after a week. Unfortunately, it wasn't a permanent feeling. I had stretches where I felt awesome and clear, and I had stretches where I couldn't go 15 seconds without licking the (empty) inside of my lip, or patting my former (now empty) can-pocket. Slowly, the bad stretches became less frequent. Now I can't even remember the last real crave. Read a lot of posts, words of wisdom, HOF speeches, etc, and you'll probably get the answers you're looking for.
Welcome to the suck. It gets better.
PS - as far a "goals" go - it's the same for everyone -- don't use nicotine today.
That was perfectly said by Zam. I think everyone's experience is different. I was in the fog for about 3 weeks. I can tell you for sure that it continues to gradually get easier and I feel so good now. It really helps to read everything you can here. I pick a quitter I like and read the whole intro. There are some great people here with inspiring quits. It really helped me knowing I was not alone in this. It's pretty scary in the beginning. You can do this.
Alcohol and nicotine are like a 1-2 punch to the brain Effects of Alcohol and Tobacco on the Brain (http://www.attcnetwork.org/explore/priorityareas/science/tools/asmeDetails.asp?ID=664)
No silver bullets but one thing to be mindful is we are addicts.
Stay focused on the quit and only make those small corrections in behavior directly related to your quit at the beginning.
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I need some expert witness been there done that testimony. I'm on day 4, day 5 starts at 11 pm ET. I quit a can a day and moderately heavy (maybe heavily moderate) alcohol use at the same time. Standard drinking would be 6 to 10 beers a night yes every one. Also at least a couple shots in the waning hours before bed. I know everyone is different but damn I was hoping I would be one of those 72 hour guys where I started to feel better. I'm guessing the combined alcohol/nicotine immediacy has my brain wondering WTF. I'm drinking plenty of water, gum of every flavor. My jaw muscles have never looked better.
What's the over/under on # of days until I get to phase 2? No danger here, still committed but I tend to meet expectations if I have an idea of the next goal. Not sure of the posting location protocol, please show me the way if in the wrong place.
I'm not sure what you mean by "phase 2". If your question is "how long does it take nicotine to clear your system?", the answer is around 3 days, I think. If you are asking when most people "clear the fog", then you'll just have to ask a few people. There is A LOT of variation, I think. Personally, I felt pretty good after a week. Unfortunately, it wasn't a permanent feeling. I had stretches where I felt awesome and clear, and I had stretches where I couldn't go 15 seconds without licking the (empty) inside of my lip, or patting my former (now empty) can-pocket. Slowly, the bad stretches became less frequent. Now I can't even remember the last real crave. Read a lot of posts, words of wisdom, HOF speeches, etc, and you'll probably get the answers you're looking for.
Welcome to the suck. It gets better.
PS - as far a "goals" go - it's the same for everyone -- don't use nicotine today.
That was perfectly said by Zam. I think everyone's experience is different. I was in the fog for about 3 weeks. I can tell you for sure that it continues to gradually get easier and I feel so good now. It really helps to read everything you can here. I pick a quitter I like and read the whole intro. There are some great people here with inspiring quits. It really helped me knowing I was not alone in this. It's pretty scary in the beginning. You can do this.
Alcohol and nicotine are like a 1-2 punch to the brain Effects of Alcohol and Tobacco on the Brain (http://www.attcnetwork.org/explore/priorityareas/science/tools/asmeDetails.asp?ID=664)
No silver bullets but one thing to be mindful is we are addicts.
Stay focused on the quit and only make those small corrections in behavior directly related to your quit at the beginning.
You are heretofore Dr. CBird. Looked at that page and I don't understand a damn thing.
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I need some expert witness been there done that testimony. I'm on day 4, day 5 starts at 11 pm ET. I quit a can a day and moderately heavy (maybe heavily moderate) alcohol use at the same time. Standard drinking would be 6 to 10 beers a night yes every one. Also at least a couple shots in the waning hours before bed. I know everyone is different but damn I was hoping I would be one of those 72 hour guys where I started to feel better. I'm guessing the combined alcohol/nicotine immediacy has my brain wondering WTF. I'm drinking plenty of water, gum of every flavor. My jaw muscles have never looked better.
What's the over/under on # of days until I get to phase 2? No danger here, still committed but I tend to meet expectations if I have an idea of the next goal. Not sure of the posting location protocol, please show me the way if in the wrong place.
I'm not sure what you mean by "phase 2". If your question is "how long does it take nicotine to clear your system?", the answer is around 3 days, I think. If you are asking when most people "clear the fog", then you'll just have to ask a few people. There is A LOT of variation, I think. Personally, I felt pretty good after a week. Unfortunately, it wasn't a permanent feeling. I had stretches where I felt awesome and clear, and I had stretches where I couldn't go 15 seconds without licking the (empty) inside of my lip, or patting my former (now empty) can-pocket. Slowly, the bad stretches became less frequent. Now I can't even remember the last real crave. Read a lot of posts, words of wisdom, HOF speeches, etc, and you'll probably get the answers you're looking for.
Welcome to the suck. It gets better.
PS - as far a "goals" go - it's the same for everyone -- don't use nicotine today.
That was perfectly said by Zam. I think everyone's experience is different. I was in the fog for about 3 weeks. I can tell you for sure that it continues to gradually get easier and I feel so good now. It really helps to read everything you can here. I pick a quitter I like and read the whole intro. There are some great people here with inspiring quits. It really helped me knowing I was not alone in this. It's pretty scary in the beginning. You can do this.
Alcohol and nicotine are like a 1-2 punch to the brain Effects of Alcohol and Tobacco on the Brain (http://www.attcnetwork.org/explore/priorityareas/science/tools/asmeDetails.asp?ID=664)
No silver bullets but one thing to be mindful is we are addicts.
Stay focused on the quit and only make those small corrections in behavior directly related to your quit at the beginning.
You are heretofore Dr. CBird. Looked at that page and I don't understand a damn thing.
Haha. Yeah that article has some seriously technical and scientific terms.
In a nutshell, nicotine totally fucks up your brain. When you put in a dip it releases feel good stuff into your brain which makes you not give a crap about your problems. Nicotine is addictive as well. So when you don't have any going into your system you immediately start to go through withdrawals (ie: irritability and nervousness) Hence the need to feed the addiction. After years of depending upon nicotine to make you feel "right" you are having to re-learn everything without a chemical substance as a crutch. You have to learn how to feel good on your own. The good thing is you now have more oxygen in your blood. So your body and brain are much healthier. It just takes some time to get used not constantly poisoning yourself. You poisoned yourself for however long and your brain and body are unfucking themselves. Embrace it and enjoy it. It gets better and better, but be patient and give it time. Staying quit should be your primary focus. Nicotine is a trap and you need to fight like hell to get out of that trap. Those who fall back are suckers. Don't be a sucker.
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As for the Phase 2 question, not really sure there is a phase 2. Each of us is different, yet the same. Some have really difficult withdrawals from the bitch and are in a fog for weeks, some of us a few days. Hard to say really how long you will be in a fog and fighting through the suck. Just try and remember how much it blows and how much you don't ever want to go through that again, this will motivate you. Time into your quit surely helps and it does get easier and better every day the longer you are in. I just had a killer crave last week at over a 160 days quit and still usually have at least minor craves daily at some point. Considering I put that shit in my lip for over 10,000 days and I am only quit a fraction of that number of days into my quit, I just expect it to be difficult at times. The freedom from carrying that fu%$ing can with me is awesome though. It does get better, hang in there......Quit with you today!
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Thanks to all for the feedback. Today's a better day. Major trigger day tomorrow, will be outside all day. Looking forward to the challenge.
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Thanks to all for the feedback. Today's a better day. Major trigger day tomorrow, will be outside all day. Looking forward to the challenge.
When you know you've got a trigger day coming, start it off by coming on here and posting roll (make your promise) early. That always helped me through those "trigger day craves" by remembering "can't do it, I gave my word that I quit today, I'll have to wait to tomorrow!"
Then do the same thing tomorrow! Keep repeating this!
To your question on phases, I believe there are common phases we all go through with quitting nicotine and you will hear about them if you keep writing on here about what you are feeling. Yes, the alcohol makes yours a bit different but there are people on here who know what you are feeling.
Quit with you today!
AA
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Thanks to all for the feedback. Today's a better day. Major trigger day tomorrow, will be outside all day. Looking forward to the challenge.
When you know you've got a trigger day coming, start it off by coming on here and posting roll (make your promise) early. That always helped me through those "trigger day craves" by remembering "can't do it, I gave my word that I quit today, I'll have to wait to tomorrow!"
Then do the same thing tomorrow! Keep repeating this!
To your question on phases, I believe there are common phases we all go through with quitting nicotine and you will hear about them if you keep writing on here about what you are feeling. Yes, the alcohol makes yours a bit different but there are people on here who know what you are feeling.
Quit with you today!
AA
^^^ I agree with Apogee. Just keep getting through. Read other quitters threads and you will see bits of your own quit in many of them but each is unique. You have a good attitude and you can do this - just be patient with yourself and the process. You are through the nicotine exit stage and into some major rewiring now. Sometimes it sucks but there are breaks in that, and man is it ever great to get free from that evil, deep running addiction. It's really a bad deal man, worse than I ever admitted I'm my years upon years of use. You are breaking free now and I'm glad to be here on that same journey with you. Quit on!
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Thanks to all for the feedback. Today's a better day. Major trigger day tomorrow, will be outside all day. Looking forward to the challenge.
When you know you've got a trigger day coming, start it off by coming on here and posting roll (make your promise) early. That always helped me through those "trigger day craves" by remembering "can't do it, I gave my word that I quit today, I'll have to wait to tomorrow!"
Then do the same thing tomorrow! Keep repeating this!
To your question on phases, I believe there are common phases we all go through with quitting nicotine and you will hear about them if you keep writing on here about what you are feeling. Yes, the alcohol makes yours a bit different but there are people on here who know what you are feeling.
Quit with you today!
AA
^^^ I agree with Apogee. Just keep getting through. Read other quitters threads and you will see bits of your own quit in many of them but each is unique. You have a good attitude and you can do this - just be patient with yourself and the process. You are through the nicotine exit stage and into some major rewiring now. Sometimes it sucks but there are breaks in that, and man is it ever great to get free from that evil, deep running addiction. It's really a bad deal man, worse than I ever admitted I'm my years upon years of use. You are breaking free now and I'm glad to be here on that same journey with you. Quit on!
Hey Done you made it through your trigger day and then some. You must be learning the tools! Good job!
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One day at a time!
Don't waste your energy thinking ahead that many days. Today you give your word and quit like a beast! You are following the plan like a champ and one day at a time you are crushing a powerful opponent.
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Hi Done4,
Just read your intro and it looks like you've received a lot of good advice. It also seems that you have the right mind set, for the most part.
Triggers and craves are just associations that you have to reset in your mind. When faced with a trigger today I tell myself that since I don't chew anymore, it will be a great new experience. Stupid mind game but that is what all of this shit is so fight fire with fire. I don't chew now. You don't chew now. Focus on now. Don't worry about how long something lasts or takes. If you focus on the now and stay vigilant, you will look up soon and be better.
My advice on dealing with craves: take a deep breath, focus on your promise to be quit and remember that the crave will pass with or without nic. But if you use...they will never get better and you lose.
One last thing. I don't think this is a concern but I got that you are all about the financial aspect and not being a hippocrit to your wife but make sure the quit is solely for you. Otherwise, there is no chance of you being committed enough to pull it off.
PM me if you need anything.
Doc-I'm quit right now!
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Done, how in the hell are you doing? You've taken this site by storm! People that jump in (check) post religiously (check) and get engaged with others on the site (check) have a mega higher rate of success. In fact, if you are a man of your word and you post every day, your chance of success is 100%. That's pretty good odds.
I think you and I bought about the same number of cans of that stupid shit. 9,100. Damn... Does that burn you? What a complete waste. Do you know how many fancy hats or toboggans that would buy?
Thanks for being one of the newest leaders on the board. You are really inspiring.
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Done, how in the hell are you doing? You've taken this site by storm! People that jump in (check) post religiously (check) and get engaged with others on the site (check) have a mega higher rate of success. In fact, if you are a man of your word and you post every day, your chance of success is 100%. That's pretty good odds.
I think you and I bought about the same number of cans of that stupid shit. 9,100. Damn... Does that burn you? What a complete waste. Do you know how many fancy hats or toboggans that would buy?
Thanks for being one of the newest leaders on the board. You are really inspiring.
That's the handbook of badass quit right there.
Nice job bro!
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Considering I put that shit in my lip for over 10,000 days and I am only quit a fraction of that number of days into my quit, I just expect it to be difficult at times.
Damn. Never did the math but I'm right there with you at 9125. And I agree not having to carry a can is an awesome feeling. Odd habit to break is putting on cargo shorts and patting the can pocket and it's empty.
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Done, how in the hell are you doing?
Hanging in there ok. The last week has been all good but Tuesday. I was wrapped around the axle all day long. Not sure what was different compared to other days. No different work stresses, home stresses. Just popped up out of nowhere. I'm chewing the hell out some gum. I tried a few different things but landed on gum as the thing that works best or me. Most of the time it's ferocious chewing, not the gentle church pew type. I intentionally stayed away from fake chew to get rid of the oral fixation more quickly. I'm staying away from hard candy and when I eat jerky I swallow immediately. Don't want anything hanging out in the gums.
I fully expected to gain 10 pounds but through 18 days I've lost 2. Funny what happens when you give up an extra 600 to 1000 calories a day of beer. Somewhere along the way I read on here how stopping dip raises confidence. I've never had a problem with confidence but it's hitting me a touch differently. Being successful giving up dip has activated my eagerness to try new things. Guess it comes from knowing how hard it is to stop cold turkey and the sense of accomplishment which mutates into 'I can do anything'. It's a good feeling.
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Done, how in the hell are you doing?
Hanging in there ok. The last week has been all good but Tuesday. I was wrapped around the axle all day long. Not sure what was different compared to other days. No different work stresses, home stresses. Just popped up out of nowhere. I'm chewing the hell out some gum. I tried a few different things but landed on gum as the thing that works best or me. Most of the time it's ferocious chewing, not the gentle church pew type. I intentionally stayed away from fake chew to get rid of the oral fixation more quickly. I'm staying away from hard candy and when I eat jerky I swallow immediately. Don't want anything hanging out in the gums.
I fully expected to gain 10 pounds but through 18 days I've lost 2. Funny what happens when you give up an extra 600 to 1000 calories a day of beer. Somewhere along the way I read on here how stopping dip raises confidence. I've never had a problem with confidence but it's hitting me a touch differently. Being successful giving up dip has activated my eagerness to try new things. Guess it comes from knowing how hard it is to stop cold turkey and the sense of accomplishment which mutates into 'I can do anything'. It's a good feeling.
Done, ^^^^^^ That's it. I did the same thing. Quitting renewed my faith in myself and set me off on a long list of engagements. They have all come about slowly but I am more active, lost quite a bit of weight (alcohol and eating better). and I have pretty much quit alcohol altogether. Not because it was a huge problem but I just feel so much better without it. You keep going man, but don't let your eagerness to conquer the world get in the way of quit. ODAAT, OH, and get your rest. I quit with ya brother.
Mogul
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Considering I put that shit in my lip for over 10,000 days and I am only quit a fraction of that number of days into my quit, I just expect it to be difficult at times.
Damn. Never did the math but I'm right there with you at 9125. And I agree not having to carry a can is an awesome feeling. Odd habit to break is putting on cargo shorts and patting the can pocket and it's empty.
Ah the old patting of the cargo shorts to feel for the tin. It's crazy how while we are all very different, this addiction to nicotine can have you read a sentence from someone you've never met and you instantly relate 1000% to exactly what they are saying.
I'm quitting today with you Done
Lighty
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Done4,
Inspired by your account, keep moving it forward!
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Well done, Done. Gratz on lessening the booze intake, I haven't crossed that line yet, but I started low-carbing Sunday so I can fit my ass on several roller coasters in 3 weeks. From one pocket patter to another, I quit with your bad ass today!
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Keep doing what you're doing Done- lots of people telling you it looks good- that's how to build a quit!
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Keep doing what you're doing Done- lots of people telling you it looks good- that's how to build a quit!
Your first long weekend of quit. Look around. Freedom looks good. If you are like me, I'll be spending a good part of this weekend thinking about and honoring people taken out of my life through their nicotine addiction. Glad my family doesn't have to put flowers on me! We are quit!
Have a great weekend!
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Keep doing what you're doing Done- lots of people telling you it looks good- that's how to build a quit!
Your first long weekend of quit. Look around. Freedom looks good. If you are like me, I'll be spending a good part of this weekend thinking about and honoring people taken out of my life through their nicotine addiction. Glad my family doesn't have to put flowers on me! We are quit!
Have a great weekend!
Thanks Worktowin. I will definitely do so.
Since this is at the top - might I say that's a mighty fine change at the top of the KTC pages for Memorial Day weekend. To those on this board that have served, you have my gratitude.
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How about an update, Done4Me?
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51. Wow, about a month between ramblings. Tide goes in and out on urges and sanity. Right now not so much craves but I can't keep track of the completion of thought patterns. I go from one thing to the next and the next like a pinball. I spend way too much time on this site to the point that it's affecting my job. Maybe I'm being paranoid on the job piece but I need to start leaving my personal laptop somewhere other than my office.
I wonder if the use of dip gave me the ability to think rationally on a constant even level at all times. Seems like the further I get away from my quit date the worse it's getting. Beginning to think I am ADD or whatever they are calling it these days. Anyone out there with similar story?
Hoping it goes away but if not, there's always medication which I absolutely hate taking. Makes me think I'm dependent. Quit on gents.
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51. Wow, about a month between ramblings. Tide goes in and out on urges and sanity. Right now not so much craves but I can't keep track of the completion of thought patterns. I go from one thing to the next and the next like a pinball. I spend way too much time on this site to the point that it's affecting my job. Maybe I'm being paranoid on the job piece but I need to start leaving my personal laptop somewhere other than my office.
I wonder if the use of dip gave me the ability to think rationally on a constant even level at all times. Seems like the further I get away from my quit date the worse it's getting. Beginning to think I am ADD or whatever they are calling it these days. Anyone out there with similar story?
Hoping it goes away but if not, there's always medication which I absolutely hate taking. Makes me think I'm dependent. Quit on gents.
I had major problems concentrating from about day 20 until about day 180. I got next to nothing accomplished work wise during that period. The past two months or so have been more productive than ever. I am getting work done and more confident than ever when it comes to taking care of business. It is a tough period to get through. But so worth it to get through. I don't know what to tell you as far as how to concentrate better. But I do know it eventually gets better. I was worthless for about 5-6 months. Luckily I didn't get fired. But I am kicking ass at work now.
You will get better. I guarantee it. Do whatever it takes to stay quit.
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51. Wow, about a month between ramblings. Tide goes in and out on urges and sanity. Right now not so much craves but I can't keep track of the completion of thought patterns. I go from one thing to the next and the next like a pinball. I spend way too much time on this site to the point that it's affecting my job. Maybe I'm being paranoid on the job piece but I need to start leaving my personal laptop somewhere other than my office.
I wonder if the use of dip gave me the ability to think rationally on a constant even level at all times. Seems like the further I get away from my quit date the worse it's getting. Beginning to think I am ADD or whatever they are calling it these days. Anyone out there with similar story?
Hoping it goes away but if not, there's always medication which I absolutely hate taking. Makes me think I'm dependent. Quit on gents.
I had major problems concentrating from about day 20 until about day 180. I got next to nothing accomplished work wise during that period. The past two months or so have been more productive than ever. I am getting work done and more confident than ever when it comes to taking care of business. It is a tough period to get through. But so worth it to get through. I don't know what to tell you as far as how to concentrate better. But I do know it eventually gets better. I was worthless for about 5-6 months. Luckily I didn't get fired. But I am kicking ass at work now.
You will get better. I guarantee it. Do whatever it takes to stay quit.
Cool, appreciate it Grizz. Makes me feel better. I'm about 4 months to go. Hope my wife and boss have staying power. Any others with input?
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51. Wow, about a month between ramblings. Tide goes in and out on urges and sanity. Right now not so much craves but I can't keep track of the completion of thought patterns. I go from one thing to the next and the next like a pinball. I spend way too much time on this site to the point that it's affecting my job. Maybe I'm being paranoid on the job piece but I need to start leaving my personal laptop somewhere other than my office.
I wonder if the use of dip gave me the ability to think rationally on a constant even level at all times. Seems like the further I get away from my quit date the worse it's getting. Beginning to think I am ADD or whatever they are calling it these days. Anyone out there with similar story?
Hoping it goes away but if not, there's always medication which I absolutely hate taking. Makes me think I'm dependent. Quit on gents.
I had major problems concentrating from about day 20 until about day 180. I got next to nothing accomplished work wise during that period. The past two months or so have been more productive than ever. I am getting work done and more confident than ever when it comes to taking care of business. It is a tough period to get through. But so worth it to get through. I don't know what to tell you as far as how to concentrate better. But I do know it eventually gets better. I was worthless for about 5-6 months. Luckily I didn't get fired. But I am kicking ass at work now.
You will get better. I guarantee it. Do whatever it takes to stay quit.
Cool, appreciate it Grizz. Makes me feel better. I'm about 4 months to go. Hope my wife and boss have staying power. Any others with input?
Yeah Done I had a long time of struggles focussing- a lot like griz. Kept me sane when I had him to check in with while going through it, and fighting back worries similar to yours. It really does keep getting better, though sometimes it drags out when you're in the thick of a particular phase. I promise, every additional day quit is worth it when you look back. Keep it up, you'll see!
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51. Wow, about a month between ramblings. Tide goes in and out on urges and sanity. Right now not so much craves but I can't keep track of the completion of thought patterns. I go from one thing to the next and the next like a pinball. I spend way too much time on this site to the point that it's affecting my job. Maybe I'm being paranoid on the job piece but I need to start leaving my personal laptop somewhere other than my office.
I wonder if the use of dip gave me the ability to think rationally on a constant even level at all times. Seems like the further I get away from my quit date the worse it's getting. Beginning to think I am ADD or whatever they are calling it these days. Anyone out there with similar story?
Hoping it goes away but if not, there's always medication which I absolutely hate taking. Makes me think I'm dependent. Quit on gents.
I had major problems concentrating from about day 20 until about day 180. I got next to nothing accomplished work wise during that period. The past two months or so have been more productive than ever. I am getting work done and more confident than ever when it comes to taking care of business. It is a tough period to get through. But so worth it to get through. I don't know what to tell you as far as how to concentrate better. But I do know it eventually gets better. I was worthless for about 5-6 months. Luckily I didn't get fired. But I am kicking ass at work now.
You will get better. I guarantee it. Do whatever it takes to stay quit.
Cool, appreciate it Grizz. Makes me feel better. I'm about 4 months to go. Hope my wife and boss have staying power. Any others with input?
Yeah Done I had a long time of struggles focussing- a lot like griz. Kept me sane when I had him to check in with while going through it, and fighting back worries similar to yours. It really does keep getting better, though sometimes it drags out when you're in the thick of a particular phase. I promise, every additional day quit is worth it when you look back. Keep it up, you'll see!
Done, everyone has different quits but one thing everyone of us has in common is some weird shit seems to happen with the way our brain interprets the world along the way. I went through a stretch for about two weeks where I felt fucking exhausted all the time. I have my own theory that these feelings happen all the time, but when you were dipping, you ignored those feelings, as your mind was focused on obtaining nicotine. Regardless, I have yet to see anyone on this site feel the same way at day 100 that they felt at day 50. And neither will you. Keep grinding you'll get through whatever you're dealing with today
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51. Wow, about a month between ramblings. Tide goes in and out on urges and sanity. Right now not so much craves but I can't keep track of the completion of thought patterns. I go from one thing to the next and the next like a pinball. I spend way too much time on this site to the point that it's affecting my job. Maybe I'm being paranoid on the job piece but I need to start leaving my personal laptop somewhere other than my office.
I wonder if the use of dip gave me the ability to think rationally on a constant even level at all times. Seems like the further I get away from my quit date the worse it's getting. Beginning to think I am ADD or whatever they are calling it these days. Anyone out there with similar story?
Hoping it goes away but if not, there's always medication which I absolutely hate taking. Makes me think I'm dependent. Quit on gents.
I had major problems concentrating from about day 20 until about day 180. I got next to nothing accomplished work wise during that period. The past two months or so have been more productive than ever. I am getting work done and more confident than ever when it comes to taking care of business. It is a tough period to get through. But so worth it to get through. I don't know what to tell you as far as how to concentrate better. But I do know it eventually gets better. I was worthless for about 5-6 months. Luckily I didn't get fired. But I am kicking ass at work now.
You will get better. I guarantee it. Do whatever it takes to stay quit.
Cool, appreciate it Grizz. Makes me feel better. I'm about 4 months to go. Hope my wife and boss have staying power. Any others with input?
Yeah Done I had a long time of struggles focussing- a lot like griz. Kept me sane when I had him to check in with while going through it, and fighting back worries similar to yours. It really does keep getting better, though sometimes it drags out when you're in the thick of a particular phase. I promise, every additional day quit is worth it when you look back. Keep it up, you'll see!
Done, everyone has different quits but one thing everyone of us has in common is some weird shit seems to happen with the way our brain interprets the world along the way. I went through a stretch for about two weeks where I felt fucking exhausted all the time. I have my own theory that these feelings happen all the time, but when you were dipping, you ignored those feelings, as your mind was focused on obtaining nicotine. Regardless, I have yet to see anyone on this site feel the same way at day 100 that they felt at day 50. And neither will you. Keep grinding you'll get through whatever you're dealing with today
The good news is that you're on day 51 and you're helping people on KTC.
Are you spending too much time on KTC? To me, it sounds like a resounding yes. If it's impacting your job and relationships, you might want to set boundaries with the internet. Are you familiar with Facebook, Twitter and other social media sites? Cerebrally, this site is no different, except it's a life saver rather than strictly entertainment. Your brain has a physiological response to online social interactions. That's totally normal. These KTC interactions may be filling some of the gaps left by the absence of nicotine.
Give yourself some guidelines and you'll get control of this quickly. Balance, D4M. I'm struggling with the exact same problem but I'm working on it.
Being jobless will make it much harder to remain quit. Poor performance at work and potential unemployment will also chop away at your newfound boost in self respect and pride.
#1: stay quit
#2: find a better balance
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51. Wow, about a month between ramblings. Tide goes in and out on urges and sanity. Right now not so much craves but I can't keep track of the completion of thought patterns. I go from one thing to the next and the next like a pinball. I spend way too much time on this site to the point that it's affecting my job. Maybe I'm being paranoid on the job piece but I need to start leaving my personal laptop somewhere other than my office.
I wonder if the use of dip gave me the ability to think rationally on a constant even level at all times. Seems like the further I get away from my quit date the worse it's getting. Beginning to think I am ADD or whatever they are calling it these days. Anyone out there with similar story?
Hoping it goes away but if not, there's always medication which I absolutely hate taking. Makes me think I'm dependent. Quit on gents.
I had major problems concentrating from about day 20 until about day 180. I got next to nothing accomplished work wise during that period. The past two months or so have been more productive than ever. I am getting work done and more confident than ever when it comes to taking care of business. It is a tough period to get through. But so worth it to get through. I don't know what to tell you as far as how to concentrate better. But I do know it eventually gets better. I was worthless for about 5-6 months. Luckily I didn't get fired. But I am kicking ass at work now.
You will get better. I guarantee it. Do whatever it takes to stay quit.
Cool, appreciate it Grizz. Makes me feel better. I'm about 4 months to go. Hope my wife and boss have staying power. Any others with input?
Yeah Done I had a long time of struggles focussing- a lot like griz. Kept me sane when I had him to check in with while going through it, and fighting back worries similar to yours. It really does keep getting better, though sometimes it drags out when you're in the thick of a particular phase. I promise, every additional day quit is worth it when you look back. Keep it up, you'll see!
Done, everyone has different quits but one thing everyone of us has in common is some weird shit seems to happen with the way our brain interprets the world along the way. I went through a stretch for about two weeks where I felt fucking exhausted all the time. I have my own theory that these feelings happen all the time, but when you were dipping, you ignored those feelings, as your mind was focused on obtaining nicotine. Regardless, I have yet to see anyone on this site feel the same way at day 100 that they felt at day 50. And neither will you. Keep grinding you'll get through whatever you're dealing with today
The good news is that you're on day 51 and you're helping people on KTC.
Are you spending too much time on KTC? To me, it sounds like a resounding yes. If it's impacting your job and relationships, you might want to set boundaries with the internet. Are you familiar with Facebook, Twitter and other social media sites? Cerebrally, this site is no different, except it's a life saver rather than strictly entertainment. Your brain has a physiological response to online social interactions. That's totally normal. These KTC interactions may be filling some of the gaps left by the absence of nicotine.
Give yourself some guidelines and you'll get control of this quickly. Balance, D4M. I'm struggling with the exact same problem but I'm working on it.
Being jobless will make it much harder to remain quit. Poor performance at work and potential unemployment will also chop away at your newfound boost in self respect and pride.
#1: stay quit
#2: find a better balance
Your brain is still recovering from the years of poisoning.
I had a doctors appt just before I quit. In additional to lots of other problems, my oxygen level was low. Nicotine suppresses oxygen transmission, and your brain is now getting the air it needs. But it isn't used to that. So your brain is trying to figure out how to move the brain transmissions around without nicotine, but also how to function with all of this wonderful oxygen.
Think about that for a minute... At the gas station, you can legally buy a product that is as addictive as heroin, causes cancer, has almost 3x more nicotine than a pack of smokes , and robs your brain of oxygen. And you visited that gas station for a lot of years. The fogginess will pass. Just takes a little time. It is worth it.
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51. Wow, about a month between ramblings. Tide goes in and out on urges and sanity. Right now not so much craves but I can't keep track of the completion of thought patterns. I go from one thing to the next and the next like a pinball. I spend way too much time on this site to the point that it's affecting my job. Maybe I'm being paranoid on the job piece but I need to start leaving my personal laptop somewhere other than my office.
I wonder if the use of dip gave me the ability to think rationally on a constant even level at all times. Seems like the further I get away from my quit date the worse it's getting. Beginning to think I am ADD or whatever they are calling it these days. Anyone out there with similar story?
Hoping it goes away but if not, there's always medication which I absolutely hate taking. Makes me think I'm dependent. Quit on gents.
I had major problems concentrating from about day 20 until about day 180. I got next to nothing accomplished work wise during that period. The past two months or so have been more productive than ever. I am getting work done and more confident than ever when it comes to taking care of business. It is a tough period to get through. But so worth it to get through. I don't know what to tell you as far as how to concentrate better. But I do know it eventually gets better. I was worthless for about 5-6 months. Luckily I didn't get fired. But I am kicking ass at work now.
You will get better. I guarantee it. Do whatever it takes to stay quit.
Cool, appreciate it Grizz. Makes me feel better. I'm about 4 months to go. Hope my wife and boss have staying power. Any others with input?
Yeah Done I had a long time of struggles focussing- a lot like griz. Kept me sane when I had him to check in with while going through it, and fighting back worries similar to yours. It really does keep getting better, though sometimes it drags out when you're in the thick of a particular phase. I promise, every additional day quit is worth it when you look back. Keep it up, you'll see!
Done, everyone has different quits but one thing everyone of us has in common is some weird shit seems to happen with the way our brain interprets the world along the way. I went through a stretch for about two weeks where I felt fucking exhausted all the time. I have my own theory that these feelings happen all the time, but when you were dipping, you ignored those feelings, as your mind was focused on obtaining nicotine. Regardless, I have yet to see anyone on this site feel the same way at day 100 that they felt at day 50. And neither will you. Keep grinding you'll get through whatever you're dealing with today
The good news is that you're on day 51 and you're helping people on KTC.
Are you spending too much time on KTC? To me, it sounds like a resounding yes. If it's impacting your job and relationships, you might want to set boundaries with the internet. Are you familiar with Facebook, Twitter and other social media sites? Cerebrally, this site is no different, except it's a life saver rather than strictly entertainment. Your brain has a physiological response to online social interactions. That's totally normal. These KTC interactions may be filling some of the gaps left by the absence of nicotine.
Give yourself some guidelines and you'll get control of this quickly. Balance, D4M. I'm struggling with the exact same problem but I'm working on it.
Being jobless will make it much harder to remain quit. Poor performance at work and potential unemployment will also chop away at your newfound boost in self respect and pride.
#1: stay quit
#2: find a better balance
Your brain is still recovering from the years of poisoning.
I had a doctors appt just before I quit. In additional to lots of other problems, my oxygen level was low. Nicotine suppresses oxygen transmission, and your brain is now getting the air it needs. But it isn't used to that. So your brain is trying to figure out how to move the brain transmissions around without nicotine, but also how to function with all of this wonderful oxygen.
Think about that for a minute... At the gas station, you can legally buy a product that is as addictive as heroin, causes cancer, has almost 3x more nicotine than a pack of smokes , and robs your brain of oxygen. And you visited that gas station for a lot of years. The fogginess will pass. Just takes a little time. It is worth it.
Done4, just wanted you to re-read True's post. I am with you on being on here most of the work day, and I have lost 2 tax clients over it due to not meeting deadlines. I own my firm, so I have the freedom to be here, but if your job is jepordy I'd cut back a bit. I need to as well, but for me it's my horribly slow time of the year.
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51. Wow, about a month between ramblings. Tide goes in and out on urges and sanity. Right now not so much craves but I can't keep track of the completion of thought patterns. I go from one thing to the next and the next like a pinball. I spend way too much time on this site to the point that it's affecting my job. Maybe I'm being paranoid on the job piece but I need to start leaving my personal laptop somewhere other than my office.
I wonder if the use of dip gave me the ability to think rationally on a constant even level at all times. Seems like the further I get away from my quit date the worse it's getting. Beginning to think I am ADD or whatever they are calling it these days. Anyone out there with similar story?
Hoping it goes away but if not, there's always medication which I absolutely hate taking. Makes me think I'm dependent. Quit on gents.
I had major problems concentrating from about day 20 until about day 180. I got next to nothing accomplished work wise during that period. The past two months or so have been more productive than ever. I am getting work done and more confident than ever when it comes to taking care of business. It is a tough period to get through. But so worth it to get through. I don't know what to tell you as far as how to concentrate better. But I do know it eventually gets better. I was worthless for about 5-6 months. Luckily I didn't get fired. But I am kicking ass at work now.
You will get better. I guarantee it. Do whatever it takes to stay quit.
Cool, appreciate it Grizz. Makes me feel better. I'm about 4 months to go. Hope my wife and boss have staying power. Any others with input?
Yeah Done I had a long time of struggles focussing- a lot like griz. Kept me sane when I had him to check in with while going through it, and fighting back worries similar to yours. It really does keep getting better, though sometimes it drags out when you're in the thick of a particular phase. I promise, every additional day quit is worth it when you look back. Keep it up, you'll see!
Done, everyone has different quits but one thing everyone of us has in common is some weird shit seems to happen with the way our brain interprets the world along the way. I went through a stretch for about two weeks where I felt fucking exhausted all the time. I have my own theory that these feelings happen all the time, but when you were dipping, you ignored those feelings, as your mind was focused on obtaining nicotine. Regardless, I have yet to see anyone on this site feel the same way at day 100 that they felt at day 50. And neither will you. Keep grinding you'll get through whatever you're dealing with today
The good news is that you're on day 51 and you're helping people on KTC.
Are you spending too much time on KTC? To me, it sounds like a resounding yes. If it's impacting your job and relationships, you might want to set boundaries with the internet. Are you familiar with Facebook, Twitter and other social media sites? Cerebrally, this site is no different, except it's a life saver rather than strictly entertainment. Your brain has a physiological response to online social interactions. That's totally normal. These KTC interactions may be filling some of the gaps left by the absence of nicotine.
Give yourself some guidelines and you'll get control of this quickly. Balance, D4M. I'm struggling with the exact same problem but I'm working on it.
Being jobless will make it much harder to remain quit. Poor performance at work and potential unemployment will also chop away at your newfound boost in self respect and pride.
#1: stay quit
#2: find a better balance
Your brain is still recovering from the years of poisoning.
I had a doctors appt just before I quit. In additional to lots of other problems, my oxygen level was low. Nicotine suppresses oxygen transmission, and your brain is now getting the air it needs. But it isn't used to that. So your brain is trying to figure out how to move the brain transmissions around without nicotine, but also how to function with all of this wonderful oxygen.
Think about that for a minute... At the gas station, you can legally buy a product that is as addictive as heroin, causes cancer, has almost 3x more nicotine than a pack of smokes , and robs your brain of oxygen. And you visited that gas station for a lot of years. The fogginess will pass. Just takes a little time. It is worth it.
Done4, just wanted you to re-read True's post. I am with you on being on here most of the work day, and I have lost 2 tax clients over it due to not meeting deadlines. I own my firm, so I have the freedom to be here, but if your job is jepordy I'd cut back a bit. I need to as well, but for me it's my horribly slow time of the year.
^^^ I love those types of scientific explanations, Worktowin. That really helps.
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Wanted to save this in my intro, good read for those with focus issues.
Q for vets - This came up in a text amongst several of us in August. We're sitting here cruising along posting +1s and our numbers are starting to build such that our earliest quitter is 20 days from HOF. For the most part we're feeling good, have some fog here and there. The issue is being able to focus at work. Looking for a target day range when the clouds lift and keen focus returns. In the meantime, doing my best to keep the boss happy.
Don't want any nebulous replies. Pretty simple here, at what point did you notice you no longer had to worry about not being able to focus.
I have a desk job where I use my brain all day long. I just couldn't focus on anything at times, early on in my quit. I found two things helped me - chewing sugarless gum (which I still do - it's inexpensive and harmless, as far as I know), and getting up and going for a walk. We have a 5-story parking garage and I'd go walk the entire thing as often as needed to help me have some small relief from the fog. No one knew; I'd just get up as if going to the restroom or something and go for a walk. No one ever said a word.
I remember the fog as the worst of my physical/mental withdrawal symptoms and will never forget it.
The good news is the fog does go away. I can't say when, because everyone is different, I'm sure, but mine seemed to hang on a long time. I quit on 5/5/2013 and was not very happy through most of the summer of 2013, and then, it just seemed to get better, gradually, and the fog just went away...or, maybe better said...the fog stopped coming back.
I got through it and those who want it badly enough will get through it too. Best wishes to all of August 2014!
DeskJockey - Day 437, Class of August 2013
I quit a year to the day after you so good perspective. I also am a desk jockey however have the benefit of working from home. Anyone else?
For me it was the absolute worst until about day 200. I had short bouts of clarity and heavy patches of unfocused fogginess. There were times where I literally would come out of a really foggy "moment" and realize it had been hours.
I started getting back into light exercise and what not (pushups, situps, walking, etc) and drinking water. If I had to guess, the last time I had a true foggy stretch (and not just a "I dont give a shit" day) where I couldnt focus or get any forward momentum was sometime before a year? I think they started being very brief and less frequent between 200 and the year.
I would say the heaviest, longest stretches were in the pre-HOF days, then a few bad day stretches in the 100-200, and then sporadic ineffectiveness from 200 to a year, and since then just normal (not quit related) periods of the fuckitalls.
I think it was around day 200 when I truly got back to some modicum of real productivity. I pretty much treaded water until then and busted ass when I hit a motivated streak to make up for the doldrums. DJ is right that it's different for everyone. Josh's schedule sounds about right leading up to the one year mark. There will still be bad days.
Side note, but, interestingly, around day 200 is when I also became comfortable that I was quitting for "forever."
Right now, you are likely focused on plowing forward a day at a time. The thought of forever probably isn't something you are dwelling on too much, and rightfully so. Again, different for everyone, but around day 200 I realized that I was comfortable with the thought of never putting that crap in my mouth again. I could say it and not have that little bell in the back of my head asking if I was seriously NEVER, EVER going to do it again and trying to put scenarios in my head. I knew I meant it.
Whatever that day is for you, just keep plowing and you'll get there. Thought I would post that up in case someone was thinking about the "forever" issue. A day will come for that, too.
I'm 174 in and I still have large stretches where it is difficult to focus. I agree with those that say that it is the toughest part of the quit.
I'm wondering if I have some type of med issue where I need to see a specialist for ADD, an issue I previously thought to be horse crap. It may be the case but sounds like ya'll are talking me off the ledge for now and reassess in day 150 to 200 window.
Input from others?
I don't know how you guys are on taking supplements but I've been taking choline and inositol (they can come together in 1 pill) and it has been working wonders for me on concentration and helping a bit with improving my overall mood.
This is also the only supplement I take, so don't assume I'm one of those guys
I don't know anything about those. Can you elaborate, post some links etc. I'm all fucking ears on this.
Oh hell yeah. My job is 1/2 desk 1/2 field work. At the desk I'd be doing whatever then find myself staring at the wall, out the window, at my shoes...for who knows how long! I think it took me a good 250-300 days to feel like I could concentrate again.
Hellya's in med school so likely some science is behind his taking, interested as well. What are the doses of each? Side effects...
Choline and Inositol are B complex vitamins that that allegedly can help with concentration, anxiety, weight loss, and hair loss. All seem like a good thing, if they improved the product with an additional penis extension benefit and I would be all in.
Contact your doctor before taking, particularly if you are taking other daily meds. Example is can lower heart rate. Supplements generally scare me but if it comes down to keeping my job, I will seriously evaluate the benefit.
bump for additional input.
D4M - I'm on 160. I hit funk around 20s that was pretty foggy plus emotional roller coaster. In the 50-60s I went back into a fog. Around 90 back into a funk and foggy. Lasted a few days, but not too long. For the last several days I've been very "temperamental" and a little foggy. Part of "recovery" is learning not just to go through triggers without dip but also learn how to "deal with shit." Like tw and WastePanel said that they grabbed dip to help with hard shit at work, so did I. Know when it's time to "bust the fucking shit" out of something I stand up, stretch, take a deep breath and then start working. I usually end up playing Freecell in 5 min because I forgot what I was doing, but then I just repeat... Maybe I'm still in the fog... I will say that recognizing it and trying to have a plan to do something seems to make it better....
Just want to thank all the vets for chiming in here. This is really helpful context to have. Makes me more confident that I haven't lost my mind and that the funk/fog isn't permanent.
And thanks to D4M for asking the question!
(Just parked this bad boy in my intro. You guys inspired me to do a little research on the nutritional side of quitting. TL/DR: Eat meat. Lots and lots of meat)
I've seen multiple stories today regarding "the fog". As many of you are aware, the fog is nasty and can leave our bosses quite frustrated at our production. It also can lead to the demise of a quit if we allow our brains to think going back to nicotine is the solution.
During the initial days of a quit, we often tell new quitters to drink tons of water and cut back on their caffeine. We've never really dealt with the nutritional side of how to deal with quitting and I realized tonight that it is not a solution that many people have explored. I found a few sites, and I'm not a doctor. Hell, I didn't even stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. But nutrition is not something that gets talked about.
First of all, I used a list that was compiled at flowingfree.org (http://flowingfree.org/diet-and-supplements-that-help-you-quit-smoking/#Dietary%20Recommendations%20to%20Facilitate%20Quitting%20Smoking). It talks about other vitamins and supplements that may be beneficial to quitting (but I really just wanted to focus on those associated with "the fog").
Simply put, proteins should be key in your diet. Meats are heavy in all of the vitamins that are known to have "fog lifting" abilities. These vitamins stabilize your blood sugars, help repair brain function, and give you energy to keep you at your peak. Although found primarily in meats, you'd be surprised to find that these vitamins are in a lot of vegetables and fruits as well.
Smokers should up their vitamin C intake while quitting. Smoking depletes the body of vitamin C.
Try to stay away from sugary foods. The spike in blood sugar can send you reeling into a crave.
Foods that are helpful while quitting
Proteins and Whole Grains-maintain stable blood sugar levels. Include protein rich foods such as eggs, tofu, string cheese, yogurt, beans, or fish into your snacks and meals.
(Smoking Primarily) Vitamin C-Smoking depletes the body of vitamin C. The jury is out on whether chewing tobacco does the same.
Vitamins
Vitamin B1 (Thiamine) (http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=nutrient&dbid=100#foodsources)Meat: Most meat products like poultry, pork, liver, kidney, and fish are excellent sources of vitamin B1. Unrefined, unprocessed, fortified food: Enriched flours, fortified breads, cereals, and pasta are all good sources of vitamin B1. Fortified food has added vitamin B1 and can be easily absorbed by the body.
Vitamin B2 (Riboflavin) (http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=nutrient&dbid=93#foodsources)-dairy products (such as milk, cheese and yogurt), eggs, enriched or fortified cereals and grains, meats, liver, dark greens (such as asparagus, broccoli, spinach and turnip greens), fish, poultry, and buckwheat.
Vitamin B3 (Niacin) (http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=nutrient&dbid=83)Vitamin B3 (Niacin)-high protein content, such as meat, eggs, and peanuts. Other good sources of vitamin B3 equivalents, such as milk, actually provide more tryptophan than niacin. Mushrooms and greens are good vegetable sources.
Vitamin B6 (Pyridoxine) (http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=nutrient&dbid=108)-Many fruits, vegetables, and whole grains are good sources of vitamin B6. Some ready-to-eat breakfast cereals are fortified with vitamin B6. Includes lean meats, poultry, fish, beans, eggs, and nuts. Fish, beef, and turkey contain high amounts of vitamin B6.
B12 (Cobalmin) (http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=nutrient&dbid=107)B12 (Cobalmin)-Clams,, Beef, Turkey, Oysters,Chicken, Crab,Salmon,Ready-to-Eat Cereals.
Choline (http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=nutrient&dbid=50)- Shrimp, Eggs, Scallops, Chicken, Turkey, Cod, Tuna, Salmon, Beef, Collard Greens
L-Glutamine-beef, chicken, fish, eggs, milk, dairy products, wheat, cabbage, beets, beans, spinach, and parsley. Small amounts of free L-glutamine are also found in vegetable juices. (WARNING-Check out the possible side effects of L-Glutamine when taken as a supplement.)
Omega 3 Fish Oils (http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=nutrient&dbid=84)-Flax Seeds, Walnuts, Sardines, Salmon, Soybeans, Tofu, Shrimp, Brussels Sprouts, Cauliflower, Winter Squash
Herbs
Oats (Avena sativa) (http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supplements/ingredientmono-906-OATS%20%28Avena%20Sativa%29.aspx?activeIngredientId=906&activeIngredientName=OATS%20%28Avena%20Sativa%29)
Rhodiola (Rhodiala Rosea) (http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supplements/ingredientmono-883-ROSEROOT.aspx?activeIngredientId=883&activeIngredientName=ROSEROOT)
I am sitting in this same boat. Concentration comes and it goes, mainly it seems to just go. But thanks for all your guy's inputs. Its nice to know I am only 120 some odd days of being out of this mess for a while.
I have found that getting up for a walk does help, or popping a hand full of Biggs seeds, but those are both only minor fixes. I'm pretty sure my boss and coworkers are starting to get tired of my day dreaming and what not but most of them understand whats going on and why so that helps.
I am going to try to read up on Choline and Inositol, I already take Ginkgo Biloba, which seems to help, but at this point I am will to try about anything, legal and nicotine free, to get my train back on the tracks.
I'm really on the fence on supplements. Here's why. I started with Chantix back before I quit. After about 15 days of being quit (3 weeks of chantrix) I stopped taking it. So I had 5 days of getting of nic rage, then another 5 days during 15-20 with Chantix withdrawals. I had to go through uneasy times twice and wish I would have quit without it.
The rewiring that needs to be done getting off nicotine takes some time. From reading posts it occurs in the 200-365 range where you start to not notice times of no focus. I'd rather do it once and do it right. If 2014 is my shit year fine, I just don't want it rolling into 2015. My fear is that supplement use will cause the brain to stop or slow the healing process. Once one stops the supplements, will there be fog again for a bit? The flip side argument is damn it would be nice to regain some focus and be able to return to a high production employee. Would suck to be out there looking for a job.
I'm pretty sure I can comply with freeflowing.com's request. Pulled pork for breakfast, lunch, and dinner!
Done4, I also did not stay at a holiday inn express last night, but, chantix is a very powerful drug (I've taken it 2 or 3 previous stop attempts) that is actually poking parts of your brain with a stick. 'bangin' From what I understand, it's preventing your dopamine receptors from receiving the "high" they get from the rush nicotine provided. I believe there should be a ramp down period, at a minimum, to reduce the withdrawal effect, but I never made it that far.
The vitamin B supplements hellya mentioned shouldn't have any withdrawal effects. I do understand your point though, as I too rarely take supplements, etc and it either seems like a snake oil (waste of money) or unknown side effects although vitamin B shouldn't have many ones.
JJFTR derptex bump fix: I really didn't think that this far into the quit Nic would still have such a strong control. Guess I was wrong on that. That's why we have to be careful. I know at least for me it would be so easy to just get "one" little chew. Glad to have the support of the AAA and all of KTC.
B vitamin supplements - eh. Seems like a lot of these get fancy names and dont really do shit. Fish oil capsules? Isnt that basically the same thing?
"Focus Factor" and other such as seen on TV, marketed to stoned college kids nonsense - eh.
A really good high-absorption multivitamin? shit, most of us should be taking that anyway. Good way to still spend your poison money.
Exercise, water, and cleaning up the diet a bit? Very effective.
All of the above are preferrable to stuffing poison in your face, thereby avoiding pain meds, chemo, radiation, massive surgery to remove lymph nodes/tongue/jaw/etc - which might be a bit of a foggy distraction IMO.
bump for more vet input.
Or brass balled input. Don't let that asshat j2b kill the derptex :rustaf1:
This is an awesome thread! Thank you. Can we get this posted in words of wisdom section or some other universally accessible place?
The question on supplement/no supplement is a great one! Is there a doctor in the house? Vadge - did they learn you any of this stuff in vet school?
As for me, I used this post yesterday to motivate myself. I got my old college math book (http://youtu.be/x5Y1BxtjkMc?t=1m) down from the attic and started doing math problems. I'm hoping that by somehow engaging a portion of my brain that was once super sharp, that it would have a trickle down effect on the rest of my brain. I'm not sure it's going to work but I'm giving it a try. I wish my ability to concentrate on Lambo's avatar (http://forum.killthecan.org/profile/208611/), would trickle over to help me concentrate on my work. No such luck. I'm fairly sure if my job was being a porn star that I would not have this issue with concentration.
Mt take is doctors are to smart to put the poison in their lip. We have a bunch of lawyers though. 'winker'
Just so you know, this article has been placed on the main site of KTC:
Here ya go (http://www.killthecan.org/nutrition-when-quitting-smokeless-tobacco-dip-chew/)
Feel free to add to it in the comments section (or to give personal experiences and remedies as well. There's not many articles about this out there, so let's make sure we get everything covered.
I know so many lawyers that dip it would make your head spin. Doctors - can't imagine you could do it much at work, given that it is a generally sanitary environment. Imagine setting a spitter down next to a patient as you check his charts.
I have a 30 something YO nephew that is a family doctor in northern Alabama that dips. I asked him if there were a lot of doctors that dip and he said there were plenty.
Can't speak for the MD's but I've chewed through damn near every surgery I've done. Put a dip in, surgery mask over the mouth, scrub and gut it all the way through.
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Welcome to 100 sir! Congratulations on a job well done!
Proud to quit with you today.
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Welcome to 100 sir! Congratulations on a job well done!
Proud to quit with you today.
Wow 100 days. You've been a great quitter from day one. Congrats
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Welcome to 100 sir! Congratulations on a job well done!
Proud to quit with you today.
Wow 100 days. You've been a great quitter from day one. Congrats
Done4, great job brother. Enjoy your day.
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Welcome to 100 sir! Congratulations on a job well done!
Proud to quit with you today.
Wow 100 days. You've been a great quitter from day one. Congrats
Done4, great job brother. Enjoy your day.
One day, one hundred times...outstanding!!
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Welcome to 100 sir! Congratulations on a job well done!
Proud to quit with you today.
Wow 100 days. You've been a great quitter from day one. Congrats
Done4, great job brother. Enjoy your day.
One day, one hundred times...outstanding!!
Congrats, man.
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Welcome to 100 sir! Congratulations on a job well done!
Proud to quit with you today.
Wow 100 days. You've been a great quitter from day one. Congrats
Done4, great job brother. Enjoy your day.
One day, one hundred times...outstanding!!
Congrats, man.
Way to go man, glad to see it. Keep it up! it keeps getting better.
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Welcome to 100 sir! Congratulations on a job well done!
Proud to quit with you today.
Wow 100 days. You've been a great quitter from day one. Congrats
Done4, great job brother. Enjoy your day.
One day, one hundred times...outstanding!!
Congrats, man.
Way to go man, glad to see it. Keep it up! it keeps getting better.
Congrats D4me! Proud of you - It's just not an option anymore is it?
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Welcome to 100 sir! Congratulations on a job well done!
Proud to quit with you today.
Wow 100 days. You've been a great quitter from day one. Congrats
Done4, great job brother. Enjoy your day.
One day, one hundred times...outstanding!!
Congrats, man.
Way to go man, glad to see it. Keep it up! it keeps getting better.
Congrats D4me! Proud of you - It's just not an option anymore is it?
Done4 is a bad ass quitter. Kudos, sir.
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Welcome to 100 sir! Congratulations on a job well done!
Proud to quit with you today.
Wow 100 days. You've been a great quitter from day one. Congrats
Done4, great job brother. Enjoy your day.
One day, one hundred times...outstanding!!
Congrats, man.
Way to go man, glad to see it. Keep it up! it keeps getting better.
Congrats D4me! Proud of you - It's just not an option anymore is it?
Done4 is a bad ass quitter. Kudos, sir.
'wave' Atta Boy!!!
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Welcome to 100 sir! Congratulations on a job well done!
Proud to quit with you today.
Wow 100 days. You've been a great quitter from day one. Congrats
Done4, great job brother. Enjoy your day.
One day, one hundred times...outstanding!!
Congrats, man.
Way to go man, glad to see it. Keep it up! it keeps getting better.
Congrats D4me! Proud of you - It's just not an option anymore is it?
Done4 is a bad ass quitter. Kudos, sir.
'wave' Atta Boy!!!
That's what I'm talking about!
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Welcome to 100 sir! Congratulations on a job well done!
Proud to quit with you today.
Wow 100 days. You've been a great quitter from day one. Congrats
Done4, great job brother. Enjoy your day.
One day, one hundred times...outstanding!!
Congrats, man.
Way to go man, glad to see it. Keep it up! it keeps getting better.
Congrats D4me! Proud of you - It's just not an option anymore is it?
Done4 is a bad ass quitter. Kudos, sir.
'wave' Atta Boy!!!
That's what I'm talking about!
Thanks to all the well wishers. Yesterday was awesome and just another +1 in the journey.
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Welcome to 100 sir! Congratulations on a job well done!
Proud to quit with you today.
Wow 100 days. You've been a great quitter from day one. Congrats
Done4, great job brother. Enjoy your day.
One day, one hundred times...outstanding!!
Congrats, man.
Way to go man, glad to see it. Keep it up! it keeps getting better.
Congrats D4me! Proud of you - It's just not an option anymore is it?
Done4 is a bad ass quitter. Kudos, sir.
'wave' Atta Boy!!!
That's what I'm talking about!
Thanks to all the well wishers. Yesterday was awesome and just another +1 in the journey.
Welcome to the HOF! Nice quit you got going Done4! Keep your tools sharp. It gets way better.
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Welcome to 100 sir! Congratulations on a job well done!
Proud to quit with you today.
Wow 100 days. You've been a great quitter from day one. Congrats
Done4, great job brother. Enjoy your day.
One day, one hundred times...outstanding!!
Congrats, man.
Way to go man, glad to see it. Keep it up! it keeps getting better.
Congrats D4me! Proud of you - It's just not an option anymore is it?
Done4 is a bad ass quitter. Kudos, sir.
'wave' Atta Boy!!!
That's what I'm talking about!
Thanks to all the well wishers. Yesterday was awesome and just another +1 in the journey.
Welcome to the HOF! Nice quit you got going Done4! Keep your tools sharp. It gets way better.
Smokin quit NC Boy!!! Congrats man!!!
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Congrats on a 100. Stay quit. Hope to follow your example and be there in 90 short days!!
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Happy 101 cum bubble!
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Question for the KTC crew regardless if you are young/old or vet/new. Open to all since I'm sure most of you are feeling it or have felt it. Proud of my quit. Damn proud. I can handle the craves. I can handle the excess drinking (more than before). In time I will take steps to curb the alcohol. Why am I waiting? I have one issue that I want to solve. Lack of focus.
I haven't had a full productive work week since I quit. Last week I strung together 3 consecutive days and felt on top of my game. This week nada. I know things will improve with time.
Here's the big question? Why can't I focus on work but I can 100% focus on KTC all damn day?
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Question for the KTC crew regardless if you are young/old or vet/new. Open to all since I'm sure most of you are feeling it or have felt it. Proud of my quit. Damn proud. I can handle the craves. I can handle the excess drinking (more than before). In time I will take steps to curb the alcohol. Why am I waiting? I have one issue that I want to solve. Lack of focus.
I haven't had a full productive work week since I quit. Last week I strung together 3 consecutive days and felt on top of my game. This week nada. I know things will improve with time.
Here's the big question? Why can't I focus on work but I can 100% focus on KTC all damn day?
Fear? I'm the same way, I need the KTC right now, like if I don't get on and post that I'll do something I'll regret. I get done what I need to at work, but just barely. Any advise from long timers?
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Question for the KTC crew regardless if you are young/old or vet/new. Open to all since I'm sure most of you are feeling it or have felt it. Proud of my quit. Damn proud. I can handle the craves. I can handle the excess drinking (more than before). In time I will take steps to curb the alcohol. Why am I waiting? I have one issue that I want to solve. Lack of focus.
I haven't had a full productive work week since I quit. Last week I strung together 3 consecutive days and felt on top of my game. This week nada. I know things will improve with time.
Here's the big question? Why can't I focus on work but I can 100% focus on KTC all damn day?
Because our quit is the most important thing in our lives right now. We're on here because we want to live a better life. Nobody wants their life to be managed by a hockey puck full of shit.
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Question for the KTC crew regardless if you are young/old or vet/new. Open to all since I'm sure most of you are feeling it or have felt it. Proud of my quit. Damn proud. I can handle the craves. I can handle the excess drinking (more than before). In time I will take steps to curb the alcohol. Why am I waiting? I have one issue that I want to solve. Lack of focus.
I haven't had a full productive work week since I quit. Last week I strung together 3 consecutive days and felt on top of my game. This week nada. I know things will improve with time.
Here's the big question? Why can't I focus on work but I can 100% focus on KTC all damn day?
Because our quit is the most important thing in our lives right now. We're on here because we want to live a better life. Nobody wants their life to be managed by a hockey puck full of shit.
I echo Heisenberg. I probably still spend too much time here but without this community I wouldn't be quit. Staying quit is the most important thing to me. I could always find another job but could never forgive myself if I caved. The focus on work will get better as you stack up more days and get more comfortable (not complacent) with having said goodbye to nictotine. I still don't work a full honest week without spending time here but it is getting easier for me to focus and work my ass off to make up for the time I spend on here during the workday. Keep quiitng bro!
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Question for the KTC crew regardless if you are young/old or vet/new. Open to all since I'm sure most of you are feeling it or have felt it. Proud of my quit. Damn proud. I can handle the craves. I can handle the excess drinking (more than before). In time I will take steps to curb the alcohol. Why am I waiting? I have one issue that I want to solve. Lack of focus.
I haven't had a full productive work week since I quit. Last week I strung together 3 consecutive days and felt on top of my game. This week nada. I know things will improve with time.
Here's the big question? Why can't I focus on work but I can 100% focus on KTC all damn day?
Because our quit is the most important thing in our lives right now. We're on here because we want to live a better life. Nobody wants their life to be managed by a hockey puck full of shit.
I echo Heisenberg. I probably still spend too much time here but without this community I wouldn't be quit. Staying quit is the most important thing to me. I could always find another job but could never forgive myself if I caved. The focus on work will get better as you stack up more days and get more comfortable (not complacent) with having said goodbye to nictotine. I still don't work a full honest week without spending time here but it is getting easier for me to focus and work my ass off to make up for the time I spend on here during the workday. Keep quiitng bro!
Im with you all on this. I'm glad to be living and quitting with you guys!
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Welcome to 100 sir! Congratulations on a job well done!
Proud to quit with you today.
Wow 100 days. You've been a great quitter from day one. Congrats
Done4, great job brother. Enjoy your day.
One day, one hundred times...outstanding!!
Congrats, man.
Way to go man, glad to see it. Keep it up! it keeps getting better.
Congrats D4me! Proud of you - It's just not an option anymore is it?
Done4 is a bad ass quitter. Kudos, sir.
'wave' Atta Boy!!!
That's what I'm talking about!
Thanks to all the well wishers. Yesterday was awesome and just another +1 in the journey.
Welcome to the HOF! Nice quit you got going Done4! Keep your tools sharp. It gets way better.
Smokin quit NC Boy!!! Congrats man!!!
Inexcusably belated but no less in sentiment: congrats on 1-hundo, hoss!! Great to have you aboard; quit with you everyday!
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Question for the KTC crew regardless if you are young/old or vet/new. Open to all since I'm sure most of you are feeling it or have felt it. Proud of my quit. Damn proud. I can handle the craves. I can handle the excess drinking (more than before). In time I will take steps to curb the alcohol. Why am I waiting? I have one issue that I want to solve. Lack of focus.
I haven't had a full productive work week since I quit. Last week I strung together 3 consecutive days and felt on top of my game. This week nada. I know things will improve with time.
Here's the big question? Why can't I focus on work but I can 100% focus on KTC all damn day?
Fear? I'm the same way, I need the KTC right now, like if I don't get on and post that I'll do something I'll regret. I get done what I need to at work, but just barely. Any advise from long timers?
I am in the same boat, but i don't think it's fear. I think it's the simple fact that quitting is more fun and KTC in general is more interesting then work. Maybe that'll level out, maybe not. I do however think the productivity will get better and settle out much closer to normal than you are now. Hell 3 productive days in a row is better than your or I have had in weeks.
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Question for the KTC crew regardless if you are young/old or vet/new. Open to all since I'm sure most of you are feeling it or have felt it. Proud of my quit. Damn proud. I can handle the craves. I can handle the excess drinking (more than before). In time I will take steps to curb the alcohol. Why am I waiting? I have one issue that I want to solve. Lack of focus.
I haven't had a full productive work week since I quit. Last week I strung together 3 consecutive days and felt on top of my game. This week nada. I know things will improve with time.
Here's the big question? Why can't I focus on work but I can 100% focus on KTC all damn day?
Fear? I'm the same way, I need the KTC right now, like if I don't get on and post that I'll do something I'll regret. I get done what I need to at work, but just barely. Any advise from long timers?
I am in the same boat, but i don't think it's fear. I think it's the simple fact that quitting is more fun and KTC in general is more interesting then work. Maybe that'll level out, maybe not. I do however think the productivity will get better and settle out much closer to normal than you are now. Hell 3 productive days in a row is better than your or I have had in weeks.
I have bad news! I still don't focus 100% after almost a year. Sorry man... Wish I knew what to say. We had a hard time prioritizing our lives before, but thought we were doing it by sucking in the nic. Now the nic isn't there so we have to figure out how to live without it. One day you won't have to think about nicotine or quitting ever again. Maybe then you will be at 100% Until then you better fake it!!!
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Seems like a good place to put this so I don't have to hot 5 different intros, I wanna call Raider, Thumblewort, Diesel, Dagranger, Grizzclaws for always working the intros. The fearless fivesome are consistently getting heads in the right place to being the journey. They deserve a thanks. Good work guys.
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Seems like a good place to put this so I don't have to hot 5 different intros, I wanna call Raider, Thumblewort, Diesel, Dagranger, Grizzclaws for always working the intros. The fearless fivesome are consistently getting heads in the right place to being the journey. They deserve a thanks. Good work guys.
Yes, they do, D4. Good call.
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Seems like a good place to put this so I don't have to hot 5 different intros, I wanna call Raider, Thumblewort, Diesel, Dagranger, Grizzclaws for always working the intros. The fearless fivesome are consistently getting heads in the right place to being the journey. They deserve a thanks. Good work guys.
Yes, they do, D4. Good call.
Dude, I am jamming to Steel Pather live at Wacken Fest and gonna get to fappin' with hottiez wearing glasses (Bailey at WKRP anyone?), and now I a got a tear in my eye. Thanks for the call out man! You are bad ass yourself Done4, make it a sexy sixsome...............don't get me started, haven't been laid in over a week. Been quit for half a year!
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Seems like a good place to put this so I don't have to hot 5 different intros, I wanna call Raider, Thumblewort, Diesel, Dagranger, Grizzclaws for always working the intros. The fearless fivesome are consistently getting heads in the right place to being the journey. They deserve a thanks. Good work guys.
Yes, they do, D4. Good call.
Dude, I am jamming to Steel Pather live at Wacken Fest and gonna get to fappin' with hottiez wearing glasses (Bailey at WKRP anyone?), and now I a got a tear in my eye. Thanks for the call out man! You are bad ass yourself Done4, make it a sexy sixsome...............don't get me started, haven't been laid in over a week. Been quit for half a year!
Done 4 thanks for the shout out....again. Always good to hear some praise. But agree with Thumble you have got to put your name in the pot, I'd also like to throw in Worktowin, Bean, and Pinched. Thumble, I hate that I am old enough To get your ridiculously obscure WKRP reference....
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Seems like a good place to put this so I don't have to hot 5 different intros, I wanna call Raider, Thumblewort, Diesel, Dagranger, Grizzclaws for always working the intros. The fearless fivesome are consistently getting heads in the right place to being the journey. They deserve a thanks. Good work guys.
Yes, they do, D4. Good call.
Dude, I am jamming to Steel Pather live at Wacken Fest and gonna get to fappin' with hottiez wearing glasses (Bailey at WKRP anyone?), and now I a got a tear in my eye. Thanks for the call out man! You are bad ass yourself Done4, make it a sexy sixsome...............don't get me started, haven't been laid in over a week. Been quit for half a year!
Done 4 thanks for the shout out....again. Always good to hear some praise. But agree with Thumble you have got to put your name in the pot, I'd also like to throw in Worktowin, Bean, and Pinched. Thumble, I hate that I am old enough To get your ridiculously obscure WKRP reference....
Johnny Fever, Venus Flytrap, Les Nessman, Herb, the Big Guy, Andy, Bailey, and Lonnie Anderson. Great show!! I always loved the softball game episode.
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Seems like a good place to put this so I don't have to hot 5 different intros, I wanna call Raider, Thumblewort, Diesel, Dagranger, Grizzclaws for always working the intros. The fearless fivesome are consistently getting heads in the right place to being the journey. They deserve a thanks. Good work guys.
Yes, they do, D4. Good call.
Dude, I am jamming to Steel Pather live at Wacken Fest and gonna get to fappin' with hottiez wearing glasses (Bailey at WKRP anyone?), and now I a got a tear in my eye. Thanks for the call out man! You are bad ass yourself Done4, make it a sexy sixsome...............don't get me started, haven't been laid in over a week. Been quit for half a year!
Done 4 thanks for the shout out....again. Always good to hear some praise. But agree with Thumble you have got to put your name in the pot, I'd also like to throw in Worktowin, Bean, and Pinched. Thumble, I hate that I am old enough To get your ridiculously obscure WKRP reference....
Johnny Fever, Venus Flytrap, Les Nessman, Herb, the Big Guy, Andy, Bailey, and Lonnie Anderson. Great show!! I always loved the softball game episode.
My fave was Les with his floor tape to simulate office walls, chest thumping to simulate the traffic helicopter, and the game of where's the bandaid today.
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Seems like a good place to put this so I don't have to hot 5 different intros, I wanna call Raider, Thumblewort, Diesel, Dagranger, Grizzclaws for always working the intros. The fearless fivesome are consistently getting heads in the right place to being the journey. They deserve a thanks. Good work guys.
That Diesel guy is an asshole.
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Seems like a good place to put this so I don't have to hot 5 different intros, I wanna call Raider, Thumblewort, Diesel, Dagranger, Grizzclaws for always working the intros. The fearless fivesome are consistently getting heads in the right place to being the journey. They deserve a thanks. Good work guys.
That Diesel guy is an asshole.
I was gonna say the same thing
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Seems like a good place to put this so I don't have to hot 5 different intros, I wanna call Raider, Thumblewort, Diesel, Dagranger, Grizzclaws for always working the intros. The fearless fivesome are consistently getting heads in the right place to being the journey. They deserve a thanks. Good work guys.
Yes, they do, D4. Good call.
Dude, I am jamming to Steel Pather live at Wacken Fest and gonna get to fappin' with hottiez wearing glasses (Bailey at WKRP anyone?), and now I a got a tear in my eye. Thanks for the call out man! You are bad ass yourself Done4, make it a sexy sixsome...............don't get me started, haven't been laid in over a week. Been quit for half a year!
Done 4 thanks for the shout out....again. Always good to hear some praise. But agree with Thumble you have got to put your name in the pot, I'd also like to throw in Worktowin, Bean, and Pinched. Thumble, I hate that I am old enough To get your ridiculously obscure WKRP reference....
Johnny Fever, Venus Flytrap, Les Nessman, Herb, the Big Guy, Andy, Bailey, and Lonnie Anderson. Great show!! I always loved the softball game episode.
My fave was Les with his floor tape to simulate office walls, chest thumping to simulate the traffic helicopter, and the game of where's the bandaid today.
Dropping turkey's from a helicopter. Diesel isn't an asshole, just misguided on which team in our state he should be rooting for........
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Seems like a good place to put this so I don't have to hot 5 different intros, I wanna call Raider, Thumblewort, Diesel, Dagranger, Grizzclaws for always working the intros. The fearless fivesome are consistently getting heads in the right place to being the journey. They deserve a thanks. Good work guys.
Yes, they do, D4. Good call.
Dude, I am jamming to Steel Pather live at Wacken Fest and gonna get to fappin' with hottiez wearing glasses (Bailey at WKRP anyone?), and now I a got a tear in my eye. Thanks for the call out man! You are bad ass yourself Done4, make it a sexy sixsome...............don't get me started, haven't been laid in over a week. Been quit for half a year!
Done 4 thanks for the shout out....again. Always good to hear some praise. But agree with Thumble you have got to put your name in the pot, I'd also like to throw in Worktowin, Bean, and Pinched. Thumble, I hate that I am old enough To get your ridiculously obscure WKRP reference....
Johnny Fever, Venus Flytrap, Les Nessman, Herb, the Big Guy, Andy, Bailey, and Lonnie Anderson. Great show!! I always loved the softball game episode.
My fave was Les with his floor tape to simulate office walls, chest thumping to simulate the traffic helicopter, and the game of where's the bandaid today.
Dropping turkey's from a helicopter. Diesel isn't an asshole, just misguided on which team in our state he should be rooting for........
Let me add Derk40 and schaef to the list. I see them in here a good bit. And, of course, cbird. Thanks to all of you. I've said it before and I'll say it again: this place doesn't work because of mods/admins, it works because of all the folks who take time to pay it forward.
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Seems like a good place to put this so I don't have to hot 5 different intros, I wanna call Raider, Thumblewort, Diesel, Dagranger, Grizzclaws for always working the intros. The fearless fivesome are consistently getting heads in the right place to being the journey. They deserve a thanks. Good work guys.
Yes, they do, D4. Good call.
Dude, I am jamming to Steel Pather live at Wacken Fest and gonna get to fappin' with hottiez wearing glasses (Bailey at WKRP anyone?), and now I a got a tear in my eye. Thanks for the call out man! You are bad ass yourself Done4, make it a sexy sixsome...............don't get me started, haven't been laid in over a week. Been quit for half a year!
Done 4 thanks for the shout out....again. Always good to hear some praise. But agree with Thumble you have got to put your name in the pot, I'd also like to throw in Worktowin, Bean, and Pinched. Thumble, I hate that I am old enough To get your ridiculously obscure WKRP reference....
Johnny Fever, Venus Flytrap, Les Nessman, Herb, the Big Guy, Andy, Bailey, and Lonnie Anderson. Great show!! I always loved the softball game episode.
My fave was Les with his floor tape to simulate office walls, chest thumping to simulate the traffic helicopter, and the game of where's the bandaid today.
Dropping turkey's from a helicopter. Diesel isn't an asshole, just misguided on which team in our state he should be rooting for........
Let me add Derk40 and schaef to the list. I see them in here a good bit. And, of course, cbird. Thanks to all of you. I've said it before and I'll say it again: this place doesn't work because of mods/admins, it works because of all the folks who take time to pay it forward.
Indeed. you guys rock!
My thanks to all of you.
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Seems like a good place to put this so I don't have to hot 5 different intros, I wanna call Raider, Thumblewort, Diesel, Dagranger, Grizzclaws for always working the intros. The fearless fivesome are consistently getting heads in the right place to being the journey. They deserve a thanks. Good work guys.
Yes, they do, D4. Good call.
Dude, I am jamming to Steel Pather live at Wacken Fest and gonna get to fappin' with hottiez wearing glasses (Bailey at WKRP anyone?), and now I a got a tear in my eye. Thanks for the call out man! You are bad ass yourself Done4, make it a sexy sixsome...............don't get me started, haven't been laid in over a week. Been quit for half a year!
Done 4 thanks for the shout out....again. Always good to hear some praise. But agree with Thumble you have got to put your name in the pot, I'd also like to throw in Worktowin, Bean, and Pinched. Thumble, I hate that I am old enough To get your ridiculously obscure WKRP reference....
Johnny Fever, Venus Flytrap, Les Nessman, Herb, the Big Guy, Andy, Bailey, and Lonnie Anderson. Great show!! I always loved the softball game episode.
My fave was Les with his floor tape to simulate office walls, chest thumping to simulate the traffic helicopter, and the game of where's the bandaid today.
Dropping turkey's from a helicopter. Diesel isn't an asshole, just misguided on which team in our state he should be rooting for........
Let me add Derk40 and schaef to the list. I see them in here a good bit. And, of course, cbird. Thanks to all of you. I've said it before and I'll say it again: this place doesn't work because of mods/admins, it works because of all the folks who take time to pay it forward.
Indeed. you guys rock!
My thanks to all of you.
And Steakbomb does work in here, too.
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Seems like a good place to put this so I don't have to hot 5 different intros, I wanna call Raider, Thumblewort, Diesel, Dagranger, Grizzclaws for always working the intros. The fearless fivesome are consistently getting heads in the right place to being the journey. They deserve a thanks. Good work guys.
Yes, they do, D4. Good call.
Dude, I am jamming to Steel Pather live at Wacken Fest and gonna get to fappin' with hottiez wearing glasses (Bailey at WKRP anyone?), and now I a got a tear in my eye. Thanks for the call out man! You are bad ass yourself Done4, make it a sexy sixsome...............don't get me started, haven't been laid in over a week. Been quit for half a year!
Done 4 thanks for the shout out....again. Always good to hear some praise. But agree with Thumble you have got to put your name in the pot, I'd also like to throw in Worktowin, Bean, and Pinched. Thumble, I hate that I am old enough To get your ridiculously obscure WKRP reference....
Johnny Fever, Venus Flytrap, Les Nessman, Herb, the Big Guy, Andy, Bailey, and Lonnie Anderson. Great show!! I always loved the softball game episode.
My fave was Les with his floor tape to simulate office walls, chest thumping to simulate the traffic helicopter, and the game of where's the bandaid today.
Dropping turkey's from a helicopter. Diesel isn't an asshole, just misguided on which team in our state he should be rooting for........
Let me add Derk40 and schaef to the list. I see them in here a good bit. And, of course, cbird. Thanks to all of you. I've said it before and I'll say it again: this place doesn't work because of mods/admins, it works because of all the folks who take time to pay it forward.
Indeed. you guys rock!
My thanks to all of you.
Absolutely love this post D4. Hope you sent them a group text as well! 'na na'
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Adding this into my intro so it's easy to find. Good retread lessons from 30, Tuco, WP.
Kobe, Taco, others...
Gonna lay this on the line... and talk about one of the biggest dumbasses of the site.
Now this guy is a funnyman... his intro still gets bumped to this day... and every time it does another blood vessel pops in my forehead.
The dude's name is SWJ. He Joined this site in January 2009, so he should have a couple of years on me... only thing is he caved... came back again to quit for a while in one of the 2012 groups. Came back with the typical: "I drifted" "I forgot" "I thought I could have just one", followed by the promise that he would post forever.. yada yada yada... all bullshit. I dunno, perhaps he is still quit... I strongly doubt it though.
I get that you think you are sincere.. you think you have learned your lesson... but I have seen so many come back at this point that my bullshit meter seems to forever be pegged to the right. Are you two gonna be different? The ONLY quitter that I can think of off the top of my head who came back strong like fuck is our very own wastepanel. He's the only reason I have even a glimmer of hope for you two.
I sure as hell hope the two of you can restore my confidence in retreads.
I went back and looked at my history and saw that you were a strong supporter of me back in 2012. I lost your trust and basically made you feel like I shit all over your time, support, and quit. Actions speak louder than words. I post early, often, and reach out to other quitters and quit groups. I won't let you down again.
Guys,
30yr laid down some cold, plain truth on you and anyone else bothering to listen. It's not a negative bias. It's not a personal vendetta. It's merely a case of site statistics.
Generally speaking, the folks that come in here the first time and put up any kind of serious numbers under their belts, usually don't enjoy a compounding rate of success when they return after a cave. It's usually quite the opposite, in fact. Even though you were here, posting roll, being present, the nic bitch was playing the long game right along with you and eventually figured out a weakness in your defenses. KTC was your #1 solid weapon for a while, but she adapted and went in for the kill. She knows she has you dialed in now, so what's to stop her the next time?
Saying things like, "I won't let you down" or "I'm going to post roll early and every day" or "I fucked up, never got involved, and eventually drifted" are stock answers. Everyone says that shit. Those sentiments might mean everything in the world to you today when you're full of quit adrenaline, but how are you going to feel 50, 100, 150, or even 450 days from now? Still that same level of piss and vinegar?
If I were you, I would be scared shitless. I'd be sleeping with one eye open knowing that I'm going back to the very well that the nic bitch effectively poisoned already once before. I'd be doing literally anything and everything to stockpile resources and build an impenetrable underground bunker to protect my quit. No thought, no prior action, no trigger, no anything would go unturned in order to deeply analyze where I went wrong the last time and what I sure as fuck am going to do today and every day to ensure I never wind up in that spot again. Nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing on this planet would be more important than my quit.
I'm not saying that it can't be done. Wastepanel is proof enough of that, but he doesn't enjoy much of any of the same company, either.
I understand.I know this is a short response, but I've got nothing to say. I'll just let that one sink in for a while. Thanks.
So...yeah.
Fuck the future. We got right now...what ya going to do with it?
I could give a shit less what happened in the past if you learned from it. While I'm often referred in the same breath as retreads, I'm not the only one. Look around. You will find others. It can be done. The secret is to not let it eat you alive (and this goes for all quitters). We've all had our failings, yes. Confucius says "A fool learns from his own mistakes. A wise man learns from others." I've often added to that and said "A dumbass just keeps making mistakes". I've been a fool. I don't want to be a dumbass.
That's really the crux and what makes this program work. There's waaaaay more "first time KTC quitters" here than retreads, yet the retreads get all the headlines. The failures are highlighted and talked about ad nauseam until EVERYBODY is sick of hearing about it. All of this highlights the mistakes of the fools. It makes us wise to recognize popular "excuses" (drifting, drinking, etc) so that we don't fall into that trap. Being a fool sucks, but it's still better than being a dumbass.
So, Wastepanel....what's the secret of "coming back"?
There isn't one.
It's not a "return program". It's not name calling vets. It's not ball coddling. Nope. None of those things make a successful comeback.
When I came back, my group was an insane ball of vets letting loose on new quitters (sound familiar?). I wasn't the only retread. I had Moe, CNC, and TK with me. We were fucking blasted from all sides non stop. You know what we did? We got through it (no fucks given). I fucking did my best to change what happened the first time around. I was never involved or gave out my number to anybody. I changed that. I didn't quit with these, but rather beside them. I changed that. I looked at myself and said "Never fucking again"...and I meant it. We locked arms. We slept back to back. It fucking sucked sometimes, but it got better. Our pasts no longer matter. We were rocking this.
And then, shortly after our HOF, TK stopped taking my texts and calls. He cut me off, and I knew he was heading toward failure. He started missing roll "on occasion". It fucking hurt, and he caved shortly thereafter. CNC and Moe walked with me for a much longer time. CNC was a surly fuck (think lipi with a military edge) that faded in the 800s. He did the same thing. He just stopped responding. It fucking hurt. Moe just had his first kid and still posts with me. Dude is a rock star.
When we were younger in our quits, I thought that I'd always have these guys around me in my quit. What I learned is that I control my own actions, and I'm a feather in the wind on the rest of this shit. I want to be quit so I surround myself with people that want to be quit and use the tools I have here. (It hurts to lose some, but they chose to be weak. This isn't even some evolutionary weakness "thinning of the herd" shit. This is self chosen weakness.) I read the everyday bullshit (sometimes commenting). I text or make new friends. I say hello to old friends. There have been some tough times in the past, but that's to be expected. I got through them. Am I concerned about the future? Nope. Because it honestly doesn't matter to me. I got today. If these words help one person stay quit today...my quit is stronger. Hell, even if nobody reads this, it makes my quit stronger just to write it out.
The secret to a comeback (hell, to a) quit is worry about right fucking now. You're here. You're reading this. What are you going to do with the information? Are you going to reach out to a brother just to say hello? Just to tell a vet "thank you"? It doesn't matter where you been or where you are going, you're here now on this path. Don't wander off. Walk with us. Talk. Be merry. Don't look at the end result hence you can become tired. Don't look at how far we've come or you'll rest on your laurels. Just lose yourself and always move forward. It's that simple.
Sometimes we need this place more than others (like now. These first few days are brutal. Lean.). Sometimes, we can post roll and get through the day without having to lean. But, either way, your quit has to start with a promise. Without it, you're simply "not using" (and that's not quit). Learn to be proactive and be reactive. Every moment will not go according to plan, but every moment can be planned for.
Most importantly...be quit. It trumps everything.
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Adding this into my intro so it's easy to find. Good retread lessons from 30, Tuco, WP.
Kobe, Taco, others...
Gonna lay this on the line... and talk about one of the biggest dumbasses of the site.
Now this guy is a funnyman... his intro still gets bumped to this day... and every time it does another blood vessel pops in my forehead.
The dude's name is SWJ. He Joined this site in January 2009, so he should have a couple of years on me... only thing is he caved... came back again to quit for a while in one of the 2012 groups. Came back with the typical: "I drifted" "I forgot" "I thought I could have just one", followed by the promise that he would post forever.. yada yada yada... all bullshit. I dunno, perhaps he is still quit... I strongly doubt it though.
I get that you think you are sincere.. you think you have learned your lesson... but I have seen so many come back at this point that my bullshit meter seems to forever be pegged to the right. Are you two gonna be different? The ONLY quitter that I can think of off the top of my head who came back strong like fuck is our very own wastepanel. He's the only reason I have even a glimmer of hope for you two.
I sure as hell hope the two of you can restore my confidence in retreads.
I went back and looked at my history and saw that you were a strong supporter of me back in 2012. I lost your trust and basically made you feel like I shit all over your time, support, and quit. Actions speak louder than words. I post early, often, and reach out to other quitters and quit groups. I won't let you down again.
Guys,
30yr laid down some cold, plain truth on you and anyone else bothering to listen. It's not a negative bias. It's not a personal vendetta. It's merely a case of site statistics.
Generally speaking, the folks that come in here the first time and put up any kind of serious numbers under their belts, usually don't enjoy a compounding rate of success when they return after a cave. It's usually quite the opposite, in fact. Even though you were here, posting roll, being present, the nic bitch was playing the long game right along with you and eventually figured out a weakness in your defenses. KTC was your #1 solid weapon for a while, but she adapted and went in for the kill. She knows she has you dialed in now, so what's to stop her the next time?
Saying things like, "I won't let you down" or "I'm going to post roll early and every day" or "I fucked up, never got involved, and eventually drifted" are stock answers. Everyone says that shit. Those sentiments might mean everything in the world to you today when you're full of quit adrenaline, but how are you going to feel 50, 100, 150, or even 450 days from now? Still that same level of piss and vinegar?
If I were you, I would be scared shitless. I'd be sleeping with one eye open knowing that I'm going back to the very well that the nic bitch effectively poisoned already once before. I'd be doing literally anything and everything to stockpile resources and build an impenetrable underground bunker to protect my quit. No thought, no prior action, no trigger, no anything would go unturned in order to deeply analyze where I went wrong the last time and what I sure as fuck am going to do today and every day to ensure I never wind up in that spot again. Nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing on this planet would be more important than my quit.
I'm not saying that it can't be done. Wastepanel is proof enough of that, but he doesn't enjoy much of any of the same company, either.
I understand.I know this is a short response, but I've got nothing to say. I'll just let that one sink in for a while. Thanks.
So...yeah.
Fuck the future. We got right now...what ya going to do with it?
I could give a shit less what happened in the past if you learned from it. While I'm often referred in the same breath as retreads, I'm not the only one. Look around. You will find others. It can be done. The secret is to not let it eat you alive (and this goes for all quitters). We've all had our failings, yes. Confucius says "A fool learns from his own mistakes. A wise man learns from others." I've often added to that and said "A dumbass just keeps making mistakes". I've been a fool. I don't want to be a dumbass.
That's really the crux and what makes this program work. There's waaaaay more "first time KTC quitters" here than retreads, yet the retreads get all the headlines. The failures are highlighted and talked about ad nauseam until EVERYBODY is sick of hearing about it. All of this highlights the mistakes of the fools. It makes us wise to recognize popular "excuses" (drifting, drinking, etc) so that we don't fall into that trap. Being a fool sucks, but it's still better than being a dumbass.
So, Wastepanel....what's the secret of "coming back"?
There isn't one.
It's not a "return program". It's not name calling vets. It's not ball coddling. Nope. None of those things make a successful comeback.
When I came back, my group was an insane ball of vets letting loose on new quitters (sound familiar?). I wasn't the only retread. I had Moe, CNC, and TK with me. We were fucking blasted from all sides non stop. You know what we did? We got through it (no fucks given). I fucking did my best to change what happened the first time around. I was never involved or gave out my number to anybody. I changed that. I didn't quit with these, but rather beside them. I changed that. I looked at myself and said "Never fucking again"...and I meant it. We locked arms. We slept back to back. It fucking sucked sometimes, but it got better. Our pasts no longer matter. We were rocking this.
And then, shortly after our HOF, TK stopped taking my texts and calls. He cut me off, and I knew he was heading toward failure. He started missing roll "on occasion". It fucking hurt, and he caved shortly thereafter. CNC and Moe walked with me for a much longer time. CNC was a surly fuck (think lipi with a military edge) that faded in the 800s. He did the same thing. He just stopped responding. It fucking hurt. Moe just had his first kid and still posts with me. Dude is a rock star.
When we were younger in our quits, I thought that I'd always have these guys around me in my quit. What I learned is that I control my own actions, and I'm a feather in the wind on the rest of this shit. I want to be quit so I surround myself with people that want to be quit and use the tools I have here. (It hurts to lose some, but they chose to be weak. This isn't even some evolutionary weakness "thinning of the herd" shit. This is self chosen weakness.) I read the everyday bullshit (sometimes commenting). I text or make new friends. I say hello to old friends. There have been some tough times in the past, but that's to be expected. I got through them. Am I concerned about the future? Nope. Because it honestly doesn't matter to me. I got today. If these words help one person stay quit today...my quit is stronger. Hell, even if nobody reads this, it makes my quit stronger just to write it out.
The secret to a comeback (hell, to a) quit is worry about right fucking now. You're here. You're reading this. What are you going to do with the information? Are you going to reach out to a brother just to say hello? Just to tell a vet "thank you"? It doesn't matter where you been or where you are going, you're here now on this path. Don't wander off. Walk with us. Talk. Be merry. Don't look at the end result hence you can become tired. Don't look at how far we've come or you'll rest on your laurels. Just lose yourself and always move forward. It's that simple.
Sometimes we need this place more than others (like now. These first few days are brutal. Lean.). Sometimes, we can post roll and get through the day without having to lean. But, either way, your quit has to start with a promise. Without it, you're simply "not using" (and that's not quit). Learn to be proactive and be reactive. Every moment will not go according to plan, but every moment can be planned for.
Most importantly...be quit. It trumps everything.
Good read ^^^ Thanks for posting this Done4
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Hell of a day 198 for you D4M, but the most important thing about 199 is it's another +1 in the absolute only direction! On this, the eve of your 2nd floor entry ... I just wanted to congratulate you early ... and thank you for being so active on the site and caring about the quits of so many. It's obvious you're here for all of the right reasons, and I'm proud to see you pouring the KTC Kool-Aid out of your own pitcher to the newbies in all groups. You are constantly building quits, mine included. Keep it up ... Raising an ice-cold cup of quit with a two-finger pour of bourbon-y quit in your direction Joe!
'Cheers'
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Hell of a day 198 for you D4M, but the most important thing about 199 is it's another +1 in the absolute only direction! On this, the eve of your 2nd floor entry ... I just wanted to congratulate you early ... and thank you for being so active on the site and caring about the quits of so many. It's obvious you're here for all of the right reasons, and I'm proud to see you pouring the KTC Kool-Aid out of your own pitcher to the newbies in all groups. You are constantly building quits, mine included. Keep it up ... Raising an ice-cold cup of quit with a two-finger pour of bourbon-y quit in your direction Joe!
'Cheers'
Hell of a day is a nice way to put it. We all have bad days, mine was self-induced, good intentions however. Let it be said that I owned it from the moment I found out about it and was 100% forthcoming in info shared/explained throughout the day. I am over the top glad for Thumble to be back. We have been trading PMs all morning. I have shared with him the sequence of events that lead me to him and I think he will laugh out loud when he reads it.
Just like in the business world we all work hard here to develop trust and accountability which is the framework this site is built upon. It only takes one bad move to lose what you have built. I've seen duplicate screen names, caves, returning cavers. My hope is that I am not viewed now in the same bucket of those starting back at zero accountability.
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Hell of a day 198 for you D4M, but the most important thing about 199 is it's another +1 in the absolute only direction! On this, the eve of your 2nd floor entry ... I just wanted to congratulate you early ... and thank you for being so active on the site and caring about the quits of so many. It's obvious you're here for all of the right reasons, and I'm proud to see you pouring the KTC Kool-Aid out of your own pitcher to the newbies in all groups. You are constantly building quits, mine included. Keep it up ... Raising an ice-cold cup of quit with a two-finger pour of bourbon-y quit in your direction Joe!
'Cheers'
Hell of a day is a nice way to put it. We all have bad days, mine was self-induced, good intentions however. Let it be said that I owned it from the moment I found out about it and was 100% forthcoming in info shared/explained throughout the day. I am over the top glad for Thumble to be back. We have been trading PMs all morning. I have shared with him the sequence of events that lead me to him and I think he will laugh out loud when he reads it.
Just like in the business world we all work hard here to develop trust and accountability which is the framework this site is built upon. It only takes one bad move to lose what you have built. I've seen duplicate screen names, caves, returning cavers. My hope is that I am not viewed now in the same bucket of those starting back at zero accountability.
Not by me. It was a perfect storm of (not a great idea + bad timing = over-reactive shit storm on my part). I ask all who read this to let it go if you haven't already.
Another quitter here, who's initials may or not be the 5th and 3rd letters of the alphabet, found out the same information (with my permission) in under 2 minutes this morning, so chalk up some of this to my ignorance of modern society.
D4 on the second floor is whats up, the rest is like sands in the hourglass. Dude.
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Hell of a day 198 for you D4M, but the most important thing about 199 is it's another +1 in the absolute only direction! On this, the eve of your 2nd floor entry ... I just wanted to congratulate you early ... and thank you for being so active on the site and caring about the quits of so many. It's obvious you're here for all of the right reasons, and I'm proud to see you pouring the KTC Kool-Aid out of your own pitcher to the newbies in all groups. You are constantly building quits, mine included. Keep it up ... Raising an ice-cold cup of quit with a two-finger pour of bourbon-y quit in your direction Joe!
'Cheers'
Hell of a day is a nice way to put it. We all have bad days, mine was self-induced, good intentions however. Let it be said that I owned it from the moment I found out about it and was 100% forthcoming in info shared/explained throughout the day. I am over the top glad for Thumble to be back. We have been trading PMs all morning. I have shared with him the sequence of events that lead me to him and I think he will laugh out loud when he reads it.
Just like in the business world we all work hard here to develop trust and accountability which is the framework this site is built upon. It only takes one bad move to lose what you have built. I've seen duplicate screen names, caves, returning cavers. My hope is that I am not viewed now in the same bucket of those starting back at zero accountability.
Not by me. It was a perfect storm of (not a great idea + bad timing = over-reactive shit storm on my part). I ask all who read this to let it go if you haven't already.
Another quitter here, who's initials may or not be the 5th and 3rd letters of the alphabet, found out the same information (with my permission) in under 2 minutes this morning, so chalk up some of this to my ignorance of modern society.
D4 on the second floor is whats up, the rest is like sands in the hourglass. Dude.
Definitely a milestone for the books D4! Sorry to jump the gun but sure looks like you can use a little flipping of the script and some recognition of the bad ass quitter you are! Glad you're here, this site has been rewarded with your efforts the last 200 days. Keep on doing what you do.
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Congrats on the 2nd floor, Dun4! Keep up the good work as the den mother.
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Congrats on the 2nd floor, Dun4! Keep up the good work as the den mother.
Congrats D4M! The pulled pork shah carpeting to pass out on is near the back of the 2nd floor...
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Second floor! Congrats on the 200 and thanks everything you do on the site to help those poor foggy bastards find their way!
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Second floor! Congrats on the 200 and thanks everything you do on the site to help those poor foggy bastards find their way!
2nd floor and turkeys from helicopters, that is all. shocker
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Second floor! Congrats on the 200 and thanks everything you do on the site to help those poor foggy bastards find their way!
2nd floor and turkeys from helicopters, that is all. shocker
200?!? Betcha canÂ’t do that again!
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Second floor! Congrats on the 200 and thanks everything you do on the site to help those poor foggy bastards find their way!
2nd floor and turkeys from helicopters, that is all. shocker
200?!? Betcha canÂ’t do that again!
For those not understanding Thumb's turkey reference (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf3mgmEdfwg), it's a pretty damn funny analogy to a plan gone bad.
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Second floor! Congrats on the 200 and thanks everything you do on the site to help those poor foggy bastards find their way!
2nd floor and turkeys from helicopters, that is all. shocker
200?!? Betcha canÂ’t do that again!
For those not understanding Thumb's turkey reference (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf3mgmEdfwg), it's a pretty damn funny analogy to a plan gone bad.
roflmao
Dear god I forgot about that episode.
roflmao
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Second floor! Congrats on the 200 and thanks everything you do on the site to help those poor foggy bastards find their way!
2nd floor and turkeys from helicopters, that is all. shocker
200?!? Betcha canÂ’t do that again!
For those not understanding Thumb's turkey reference (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf3mgmEdfwg), it's a pretty damn funny analogy to a plan gone bad.
roflmao
Dear god I forgot about that episode.
roflmao
Congrats Done4. You are a total badass. Proud to be quit with you.
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Second floor! Congrats on the 200 and thanks everything you do on the site to help those poor foggy bastards find their way!
2nd floor and turkeys from helicopters, that is all. shocker
200?!? Betcha canÂ’t do that again!
For those not understanding Thumb's turkey reference (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf3mgmEdfwg), it's a pretty damn funny analogy to a plan gone bad.
roflmao
Dear god I forgot about that episode.
roflmao
Congrats Done4. You are a total badass. Proud to be quit with you.
And I as well.
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Second floor! Congrats on the 200 and thanks everything you do on the site to help those poor foggy bastards find their way!
2nd floor and turkeys from helicopters, that is all. shocker
200?!? Betcha canÂ’t do that again!
For those not understanding Thumb's turkey reference (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf3mgmEdfwg), it's a pretty damn funny analogy to a plan gone bad.
roflmao
Dear god I forgot about that episode.
roflmao
Congrats Done4. You are a total badass. Proud to be quit with you.
And I as well.
Right on, Done4! Proud to quit with you, buddy!
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Second floor! Congrats on the 200 and thanks everything you do on the site to help those poor foggy bastards find their way!
2nd floor and turkeys from helicopters, that is all. shocker
200?!? Betcha canÂ’t do that again!
For those not understanding Thumb's turkey reference (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf3mgmEdfwg), it's a pretty damn funny analogy to a plan gone bad.
roflmao
Dear god I forgot about that episode.
roflmao
Congrats Done4. You are a total badass. Proud to be quit with you.
And I as well.
Right on, Done4! Proud to quit with you, buddy!
Damn proud to quit with you bro.
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Second floor! Congrats on the 200 and thanks everything you do on the site to help those poor foggy bastards find their way!
2nd floor and turkeys from helicopters, that is all. shocker
200?!? Betcha canÂ’t do that again!
For those not understanding Thumb's turkey reference (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf3mgmEdfwg), it's a pretty damn funny analogy to a plan gone bad.
roflmao
Dear god I forgot about that episode.
roflmao
Congrats Done4. You are a total badass. Proud to be quit with you.
And I as well.
Right on, Done4! Proud to quit with you, buddy!
Damn proud to quit with you bro.
Nice floor 2. Congrats! Somebody call this guy at work.
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Second floor! Congrats on the 200 and thanks everything you do on the site to help those poor foggy bastards find their way!
2nd floor and turkeys from helicopters, that is all. shocker
200?!? Betcha canÂ’t do that again!
For those not understanding Thumb's turkey reference (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf3mgmEdfwg), it's a pretty damn funny analogy to a plan gone bad.
roflmao
Dear god I forgot about that episode.
roflmao
Congrats Done4. You are a total badass. Proud to be quit with you.
And I as well.
Right on, Done4! Proud to quit with you, buddy!
Damn proud to quit with you bro.
Nice floor 2. Congrats! Somebody call this guy at work.
Two, too, to, 2, tu, duo, dos
2nd fucking floor. Hell fucking yeah!
'oh yeah'
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Second floor! Congrats on the 200 and thanks everything you do on the site to help those poor foggy bastards find their way!
2nd floor and turkeys from helicopters, that is all. shocker
200?!? Betcha canÂ’t do that again!
For those not understanding Thumb's turkey reference (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf3mgmEdfwg), it's a pretty damn funny analogy to a plan gone bad.
roflmao
Dear god I forgot about that episode.
roflmao
Congrats Done4. You are a total badass. Proud to be quit with you.
And I as well.
Right on, Done4! Proud to quit with you, buddy!
Damn proud to quit with you bro.
Nice floor 2. Congrats! Somebody call this guy at work.
Two, too, to, 2, tu, duo, dos
2nd fucking floor. Hell fucking yeah!
'oh yeah'
Congrats on 2nds floor! And for the record.... don't call me... I will call you!
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Thanks to all of you for your well wishes on my 2nd floor accomplishment. I am super turned on by your comments to the point where I feel the need to treat you dudes special.
I'll be calling each of you at your place of business in the morning. For Twort it will be a bitness call, I need help with my taxes, and help with this girdle cuz it's chafiing me.
KTC rocks, seriously love all you guys.
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I haven't posted much here the past 2 days. My mom is in the process of passing away. A hospice assessor confirmed today. She has late stage Parkinson's and developed pneumonia which is not a good combination. As with any sane person, I adore my mom. Always have. She made me into who I am today. I would not have the desire, self-confidence, but also humility without her. She is my favorite relative, her dad is a very close second.
Really no reason for posting other than I have notified the rest of my family. Felt I should say to you as well. I love my mom but it's time for her to move to the next stage. Still not easy to deal with. I have actually drank a lot less the past 2 days. I like me better that way. You know how it goes, spending 14 hours at the hospital/home/assisted living. Surprised I have handled it well which gives me hope that I am long term quit and the anxiety is getting better.
So, I post this in the spirit of NOLAQ who lost both of his parents and remained quit. Also Pr0f who lost his dad and remained quit. I will do the same. With no danger of tobacco because KTC has set my quit compass in the right direction. Thanks KTC.
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I haven't posted much here the past 2 days. My mom is in the process of passing away. A hospice assessor confirmed today. She has late stage Parkinson's and developed pneumonia which is not a good combination. As with any sane person, I adore my mom. Always have. She made me into who I am today. I would not have the desire, self-confidence, but also humility without her. She is my favorite relative, her dad is a very close second.
Really no reason for posting other than I have notified the rest of my family. Felt I should say to you as well. I love my mom but it's time for her to move to the next stage. Still not easy to deal with. I have actually drank a lot less the past 2 days. I like me better that way. You know how it goes, spending 14 hours at the hospital/home/assisted living. Surprised I have handled it well which gives me hope that I am long term quit and the anxiety is getting better.
So, I post this in the spirit of NOLAQ who lost both of his parents and remained quit. Also Pr0f who lost his dad and remained quit. I will do the same. With no danger of tobacco because KTC has set my quit compass in the right direction. Thanks KTC.
Prayers to you and your family D4M. You are a great member of this community, and I'm sure your Mom is proud of you.
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I haven't posted much here the past 2 days. My mom is in the process of passing away. A hospice assessor confirmed today. She has late stage Parkinson's and developed pneumonia which is not a good combination. As with any sane person, I adore my mom. Always have. She made me into who I am today. I would not have the desire, self-confidence, but also humility without her. She is my favorite relative, her dad is a very close second.
Really no reason for posting other than I have notified the rest of my family. Felt I should say to you as well. I love my mom but it's time for her to move to the next stage. Still not easy to deal with. I have actually drank a lot less the past 2 days. I like me better that way. You know how it goes, spending 14 hours at the hospital/home/assisted living. Surprised I have handled it well which gives me hope that I am long term quit and the anxiety is getting better.
So, I post this in the spirit of NOLAQ who lost both of his parents and remained quit. Also Pr0f who lost his dad and remained quit. I will do the same. With no danger of tobacco because KTC has set my quit compass in the right direction. Thanks KTC.
Prayers to you and your family D4M. You are a great member of this community, and I'm sure your Mom is proud of you.
Amen brother, prayer to you and your family today.
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D4M welcome to the 2nd floor and a prayer for your Mom for your family. Stay strong stay quit!
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I haven't posted much here the past 2 days. My mom is in the process of passing away. A hospice assessor confirmed today. She has late stage Parkinson's and developed pneumonia which is not a good combination. As with any sane person, I adore my mom. Always have. She made me into who I am today. I would not have the desire, self-confidence, but also humility without her. She is my favorite relative, her dad is a very close second.
Really no reason for posting other than I have notified the rest of my family. Felt I should say to you as well. I love my mom but it's time for her to move to the next stage. Still not easy to deal with. I have actually drank a lot less the past 2 days. I like me better that way. You know how it goes, spending 14 hours at the hospital/home/assisted living. Surprised I have handled it well which gives me hope that I am long term quit and the anxiety is getting better.
So, I post this in the spirit of NOLAQ who lost both of his parents and remained quit. Also Pr0f who lost his dad and remained quit. I will do the same. With no danger of tobacco because KTC has set my quit compass in the right direction. Thanks KTC.
Prayers to you and your family D4M. You are a great member of this community, and I'm sure your Mom is proud of you.
Amen brother, prayer to you and your family today.
Thoughts are with you and your family done4. I'm damn proud to call you my brother.
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I haven't posted much here the past 2 days. My mom is in the process of passing away. A hospice assessor confirmed today. She has late stage Parkinson's and developed pneumonia which is not a good combination. As with any sane person, I adore my mom. Always have. She made me into who I am today. I would not have the desire, self-confidence, but also humility without her. She is my favorite relative, her dad is a very close second.
Really no reason for posting other than I have notified the rest of my family. Felt I should say to you as well. I love my mom but it's time for her to move to the next stage. Still not easy to deal with. I have actually drank a lot less the past 2 days. I like me better that way. You know how it goes, spending 14 hours at the hospital/home/assisted living. Surprised I have handled it well which gives me hope that I am long term quit and the anxiety is getting better.
So, I post this in the spirit of NOLAQ who lost both of his parents and remained quit. Also Pr0f who lost his dad and remained quit. I will do the same. With no danger of tobacco because KTC has set my quit compass in the right direction. Thanks KTC.
Prayers to you and your family D4M. You are a great member of this community, and I'm sure your Mom is proud of you.
Amen brother, prayer to you and your family today.
Thoughts are with you and your family done4. I'm damn proud to call you my brother.
Hang tough brother. Proud to quit with you.
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I haven't posted much here the past 2 days. My mom is in the process of passing away. A hospice assessor confirmed today. She has late stage Parkinson's and developed pneumonia which is not a good combination. As with any sane person, I adore my mom. Always have. She made me into who I am today. I would not have the desire, self-confidence, but also humility without her. She is my favorite relative, her dad is a very close second.
Really no reason for posting other than I have notified the rest of my family. Felt I should say to you as well. I love my mom but it's time for her to move to the next stage. Still not easy to deal with. I have actually drank a lot less the past 2 days. I like me better that way. You know how it goes, spending 14 hours at the hospital/home/assisted living. Surprised I have handled it well which gives me hope that I am long term quit and the anxiety is getting better.
So, I post this in the spirit of NOLAQ who lost both of his parents and remained quit. Also Pr0f who lost his dad and remained quit. I will do the same. With no danger of tobacco because KTC has set my quit compass in the right direction. Thanks KTC.
Prayers to you and your family D4M. You are a great member of this community, and I'm sure your Mom is proud of you.
Amen brother, prayer to you and your family today.
Thoughts are with you and your family done4. I'm damn proud to call you my brother.
Hang tough brother. Proud to quit with you.
In the end we all will have only one word to comfort us. That word is ‘Amen’. Amen, D4’s mother, amen.
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I haven't posted much here the past 2 days. My mom is in the process of passing away. A hospice assessor confirmed today. She has late stage Parkinson's and developed pneumonia which is not a good combination. As with any sane person, I adore my mom. Always have. She made me into who I am today. I would not have the desire, self-confidence, but also humility without her. She is my favorite relative, her dad is a very close second.
Really no reason for posting other than I have notified the rest of my family. Felt I should say to you as well. I love my mom but it's time for her to move to the next stage. Still not easy to deal with. I have actually drank a lot less the past 2 days. I like me better that way. You know how it goes, spending 14 hours at the hospital/home/assisted living. Surprised I have handled it well which gives me hope that I am long term quit and the anxiety is getting better.
So, I post this in the spirit of NOLAQ who lost both of his parents and remained quit. Also Pr0f who lost his dad and remained quit. I will do the same. With no danger of tobacco because KTC has set my quit compass in the right direction. Thanks KTC.
Prayers to you and your family D4M. You are a great member of this community, and I'm sure your Mom is proud of you.
Amen brother, prayer to you and your family today.
Thoughts are with you and your family done4. I'm damn proud to call you my brother.
Hang tough brother. Proud to quit with you.
In the end we all will have only one word to comfort us. That word is ‘Amen’. Amen, D4’s mother, amen.
Thinking of you buddy
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I haven't posted much here the past 2 days. My mom is in the process of passing away. A hospice assessor confirmed today. She has late stage Parkinson's and developed pneumonia which is not a good combination. As with any sane person, I adore my mom. Always have. She made me into who I am today. I would not have the desire, self-confidence, but also humility without her. She is my favorite relative, her dad is a very close second.
Really no reason for posting other than I have notified the rest of my family. Felt I should say to you as well. I love my mom but it's time for her to move to the next stage. Still not easy to deal with. I have actually drank a lot less the past 2 days. I like me better that way. You know how it goes, spending 14 hours at the hospital/home/assisted living. Surprised I have handled it well which gives me hope that I am long term quit and the anxiety is getting better.
So, I post this in the spirit of NOLAQ who lost both of his parents and remained quit. Also Pr0f who lost his dad and remained quit. I will do the same. With no danger of tobacco because KTC has set my quit compass in the right direction. Thanks KTC.
Prayers to you and your family D4M. You are a great member of this community, and I'm sure your Mom is proud of you.
Amen brother, prayer to you and your family today.
Thoughts are with you and your family done4. I'm damn proud to call you my brother.
Hang tough brother. Proud to quit with you.
In the end we all will have only one word to comfort us. That word is ‘Amen’. Amen, D4’s mother, amen.
Thinking of you buddy
prayers sent your way, brother. Life is hard sometimes. Reach out if you need.
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I haven't posted much here the past 2 days. My mom is in the process of passing away. A hospice assessor confirmed today. She has late stage Parkinson's and developed pneumonia which is not a good combination. As with any sane person, I adore my mom. Always have. She made me into who I am today. I would not have the desire, self-confidence, but also humility without her. She is my favorite relative, her dad is a very close second.
Really no reason for posting other than I have notified the rest of my family. Felt I should say to you as well. I love my mom but it's time for her to move to the next stage. Still not easy to deal with. I have actually drank a lot less the past 2 days. I like me better that way. You know how it goes, spending 14 hours at the hospital/home/assisted living. Surprised I have handled it well which gives me hope that I am long term quit and the anxiety is getting better.
So, I post this in the spirit of NOLAQ who lost both of his parents and remained quit. Also Pr0f who lost his dad and remained quit. I will do the same. With no danger of tobacco because KTC has set my quit compass in the right direction. Thanks KTC.
Prayers to you and your family D4M. You are a great member of this community, and I'm sure your Mom is proud of you.
Amen brother, prayer to you and your family today.
Thoughts are with you and your family done4. I'm damn proud to call you my brother.
Hang tough brother. Proud to quit with you.
In the end we all will have only one word to comfort us. That word is ‘Amen’. Amen, D4’s mother, amen.
Thinking of you buddy
prayers sent your way, brother. Life is hard sometimes. Reach out if you need.
Stay strong. Prayers out!
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I haven't posted much here the past 2 days. My mom is in the process of passing away. A hospice assessor confirmed today. She has late stage Parkinson's and developed pneumonia which is not a good combination. As with any sane person, I adore my mom. Always have. She made me into who I am today. I would not have the desire, self-confidence, but also humility without her. She is my favorite relative, her dad is a very close second.
Really no reason for posting other than I have notified the rest of my family. Felt I should say to you as well. I love my mom but it's time for her to move to the next stage. Still not easy to deal with. I have actually drank a lot less the past 2 days. I like me better that way. You know how it goes, spending 14 hours at the hospital/home/assisted living. Surprised I have handled it well which gives me hope that I am long term quit and the anxiety is getting better.
So, I post this in the spirit of NOLAQ who lost both of his parents and remained quit. Also Pr0f who lost his dad and remained quit. I will do the same. With no danger of tobacco because KTC has set my quit compass in the right direction. Thanks KTC.
Prayers to you and your family D4M. You are a great member of this community, and I'm sure your Mom is proud of you.
Amen brother, prayer to you and your family today.
Thoughts are with you and your family done4. I'm damn proud to call you my brother.
Hang tough brother. Proud to quit with you.
In the end we all will have only one word to comfort us. That word is ‘Amen’. Amen, D4’s mother, amen.
Thinking of you buddy
prayers sent your way, brother. Life is hard sometimes. Reach out if you need.
Stay strong. Prayers out!
Dun4, I say this with a tear in my eye for you and your mother, I'm here for you along with all of these other quitters. Just a text, call, or PM away. Stay strong.
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I haven't posted much here the past 2 days. My mom is in the process of passing away. A hospice assessor confirmed today. She has late stage Parkinson's and developed pneumonia which is not a good combination. As with any sane person, I adore my mom. Always have. She made me into who I am today. I would not have the desire, self-confidence, but also humility without her. She is my favorite relative, her dad is a very close second.
Really no reason for posting other than I have notified the rest of my family. Felt I should say to you as well. I love my mom but it's time for her to move to the next stage. Still not easy to deal with. I have actually drank a lot less the past 2 days. I like me better that way. You know how it goes, spending 14 hours at the hospital/home/assisted living. Surprised I have handled it well which gives me hope that I am long term quit and the anxiety is getting better.
So, I post this in the spirit of NOLAQ who lost both of his parents and remained quit. Also Pr0f who lost his dad and remained quit. I will do the same. With no danger of tobacco because KTC has set my quit compass in the right direction. Thanks KTC.
Prayers to you and your family D4M. You are a great member of this community, and I'm sure your Mom is proud of you.
Amen brother, prayer to you and your family today.
Thoughts are with you and your family done4. I'm damn proud to call you my brother.
Hang tough brother. Proud to quit with you.
In the end we all will have only one word to comfort us. That word is ‘Amen’. Amen, D4’s mother, amen.
Thinking of you buddy
prayers sent your way, brother. Life is hard sometimes. Reach out if you need.
Stay strong. Prayers out!
Dun4, I say this with a tear in my eye for you and your mother, I'm here for you along with all of these other quitters. Just a text, call, or PM away. Stay strong.
Sorry to hear, Done4. You're a BAQ and her strength surrounds you. All of your brothers are here for you as well.
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Wow. The news of your mother was the first post that actually brought a tear to my eyes. I'm so sorry to hear about that. I think of how I feel about my mother. I lost my father last February, but I am much closer to my mother. I won't say it wasn't difficult, but I wasn't quitting back then either; I don't know if I would had made it through, especially without the support from guys like you.
Hang in there. I did notice you weren't around as much these last few days, so you can take that to heart that you are making a difference in my quit, at least (any many more I'm sure).
I will be saying a little prayer for your mom, and your family, before nodding off tonight. Thank u.
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Wow. The news of your mother was the first post that actually brought a tear to my eyes. I'm so sorry to hear about that. I think of how I feel about my mother. I lost my father last February, but I am much closer to my mother. I won't say it wasn't difficult, but I wasn't quitting back then either; I don't know if I would had made it through, especially without the support from guys like you.
Hang in there. I did notice you weren't around as much these last few days, so you can take that to heart that you are making a difference in my quit, at least (any many more I'm sure).
I will be saying a little prayer for your mom, and your family, before nodding off tonight. Thank u.
You can stay quit today thru difficult life events! Know that. Post roll, immerse yourself in the site and do it!
There are a number of quitters that have dealt with the worst of the worst and they held the line. You can and will do the same! Quit like your life depends on it today - because it does!
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Burn your boats. How real is that? Do you believe? Can it be done?
My boats are burned. If I ever smoke/dip/chew you have my permission to cut my nuts off and use the skin to make a coin collector sack.
I knew I was close but now I'm there. I can say that with utmost honesty. I imagine many things can flip the switch to NAFAR. I felt it a few days back but I am convinced at this moment and it makes me oh so proud of my quit.
What steered me that way, why am I so so certain that ODAAT evolved into NAFAR? I owe it to my mom. A week ago I notified you she is in a bad place. It's amazing how quickly that turned into being in a good place. The odd part is that nothing changed. Her resolution never changed, what changed was ours, her kids.
Watching my mom move from actively living to actively dying has been awesome. Truly. She is at peace. She accepts it. No conflict, no pain, no transgressions. I can't imagine a better death.
For me, I can't imagine a better quit. I am strong, my wife supports me (very important) and integrity is the beacon. I quit today with all of you and I am confident I will quit all the tomorrows as well.
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I have no doubts in my mind you'll be posting roll with all of us tomorrow. You are showing all of us how to deal with life nic free head on Joe, and are an inspiration to us all. Peace be with you and your family today.
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I have no doubts in my mind you'll be posting roll with all of us tomorrow. You are showing all of us how to deal with life nic free head on Joe, and are an inspiration to us all. Peace be with you and your family today.
Thanks Thumb. In a big way.
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I have no doubts in my mind you'll be posting roll with all of us tomorrow. You are showing all of us how to deal with life nic free head on Joe, and are an inspiration to us all. Peace be with you and your family today.
Thanks Thumb. In a big way.
Peace and comfort is all we can really ask for in the end. I've said it before and it bears repeating; you honor your Mom with your positive mindset and your resolve to stay true to your course. You are helping to give her that gift of peace and comfort each and every day.
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I have no doubts in my mind you'll be posting roll with all of us tomorrow. You are showing all of us how to deal with life nic free head on Joe, and are an inspiration to us all. Peace be with you and your family today.
Thanks Thumb. In a big way.
Peace and comfort is all we can really ask for in the end. I've said it before and it bears repeating; you honor your Mom with your positive mindset and your resolve to stay true to your course. You are helping to give her that gift of peace and comfort each and every day.
I haven't been reading this thread the past week and just caught up on the last 10 days of your journal. That there is some heavy shit and you, my friend, have been riding an emotional roller coaster worthy of it's own ride at Disney. But despite that, there's one constant that you have masterfully illustrated AND demonstrated. The quit is impenetrable. It's like a rock that keeps you in check and is immovable. THAT is how you foster a quit. THAT is how you own your quit. THAT is how you persevere no matter what the circumstance. THAT is how you inspire. AND THAT, is how you QLF.
Thanks Done4, thanks for sharing and bringing us along for the ride. My thoughts will be with you.
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Burn your boats. How real is that? Do you believe? Can it be done?
My boats are burned. If I ever smoke/dip/chew you have my permission to cut my nuts off and use the skin to make a coin collector sack.
I knew I was close but now I'm there. I can say that with utmost honesty. I imagine many things can flip the switch to NAFAR. I felt it a few days back but I am convinced at this moment and it makes me oh so proud of my quit.
What steered me that way, why am I so so certain that ODAAT evolved into NAFAR? I owe it to my mom. A week ago I notified you she is in a bad place. It's amazing how quickly that turned into being in a good place. The odd part is that nothing changed. Her resolution never changed, what changed was ours, her kids.
Watching my mom move from actively living to actively dying has been awesome. Truly. She is at peace. She accepts it. No conflict, no pain, no transgressions. I can't imagine a better death.
For me, I can't imagine a better quit. I am strong, my wife supports me (very important) and integrity is the beacon. I quit today with all of you and I am confident I will quit all the tomorrows as well.
I knew I was close but now I'm there. I can say that with utmost honesty. I imagine many things can flip the switch to NAFAR. I felt it a few days back but I am convinced at this moment and it makes me oh so proud of my quit.
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D4, gotta tell you, although there are many emotions that a post like this could have brought out, I felt like I was in the fucking locker room at halftime of a close game, and some bad ass just got up in the middle of the room and gave a speech that made me throw my helmet down and start head butting dudes,while screaming and going fucking crazy. When you're in a room like that, you know the game is won. Its great to know you will be here with us.
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Burn your boats. How real is that? Do you believe? Can it be done?
My boats are burned. If I ever smoke/dip/chew you have my permission to cut my nuts off and use the skin to make a coin collector sack.
I knew I was close but now I'm there. I can say that with utmost honesty. I imagine many things can flip the switch to NAFAR. I felt it a few days back but I am convinced at this moment and it makes me oh so proud of my quit.
What steered me that way, why am I so so certain that ODAAT evolved into NAFAR? I owe it to my mom. A week ago I notified you she is in a bad place. It's amazing how quickly that turned into being in a good place. The odd part is that nothing changed. Her resolution never changed, what changed was ours, her kids.
Watching my mom move from actively living to actively dying has been awesome. Truly. She is at peace. She accepts it. No conflict, no pain, no transgressions. I can't imagine a better death.
For me, I can't imagine a better quit. I am strong, my wife supports me (very important) and integrity is the beacon. I quit today with all of you and I am confident I will quit all the tomorrows as well.
Wow, brother. You're a rock.
You know how to quit. I quit with you.
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Burn your boats. How real is that? Do you believe? Can it be done?
My boats are burned. If I ever smoke/dip/chew you have my permission to cut my nuts off and use the skin to make a coin collector sack.
I knew I was close but now I'm there. I can say that with utmost honesty. I imagine many things can flip the switch to NAFAR. I felt it a few days back but I am convinced at this moment and it makes me oh so proud of my quit.
What steered me that way, why am I so so certain that ODAAT evolved into NAFAR? I owe it to my mom. A week ago I notified you she is in a bad place. It's amazing how quickly that turned into being in a good place. The odd part is that nothing changed. Her resolution never changed, what changed was ours, her kids.
Watching my mom move from actively living to actively dying has been awesome. Truly. She is at peace. She accepts it. No conflict, no pain, no transgressions. I can't imagine a better death.
For me, I can't imagine a better quit. I am strong, my wife supports me (very important) and integrity is the beacon. I quit today with all of you and I am confident I will quit all the tomorrows as well.
Wow, brother. You're a rock.
You know how to quit. I quit with you.
Agreed ... nice to have someone like you in our corners D4. Thoughts and positive vibes sent your way during this difficult time, you are an inspiration ... and a quit strengthener!
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Burn your boats. How real is that? Do you believe? Can it be done?
My boats are burned. If I ever smoke/dip/chew you have my permission to cut my nuts off and use the skin to make a coin collector sack.
I knew I was close but now I'm there. I can say that with utmost honesty. I imagine many things can flip the switch to NAFAR. I felt it a few days back but I am convinced at this moment and it makes me oh so proud of my quit.
What steered me that way, why am I so so certain that ODAAT evolved into NAFAR? I owe it to my mom. A week ago I notified you she is in a bad place. It's amazing how quickly that turned into being in a good place. The odd part is that nothing changed. Her resolution never changed, what changed was ours, her kids.
Watching my mom move from actively living to actively dying has been awesome. Truly. She is at peace. She accepts it. No conflict, no pain, no transgressions. I can't imagine a better death.
For me, I can't imagine a better quit. I am strong, my wife supports me (very important) and integrity is the beacon. I quit today with all of you and I am confident I will quit all the tomorrows as well.
Wow, brother. You're a rock.
You know how to quit. I quit with you.
Agreed ... nice to have someone like you in our corners D4. Thoughts and positive vibes sent your way during this difficult time, you are an inspiration ... and a quit strengthener!
Thank you for posting. Thank you.
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My mom passed away yesterday morning. I wish that she had done so days earlier. It was tough the last few days. My sister and I have no regrets. She is now disease free and as beautiful as she was in all the pictures we looked through.
I thought about nicotine only once and that was in the Thanksgiving prayer thankful for being quit 200 plus days. Quitting with all you today and will be back to regular posting soon.
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My mom passed away yesterday morning. I wish that she had done so days earlier. It was tough the last few days. My sister and I have no regrets. She is now disease free and as beautiful as she was in all the pictures we looked through.
I thought about nicotine only once and that was in the Thanksgiving prayer thankful for being quit 200 plus days. Quitting with all you today and will be back to regular posting soon.
My thoughts are with you and your sister.
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My mom passed away yesterday morning. I wish that she had done so days earlier. It was tough the last few days. My sister and I have no regrets. She is now disease free and as beautiful as she was in all the pictures we looked through.
I thought about nicotine only once and that was in the Thanksgiving prayer thankful for being quit 200 plus days. Quitting with all you today and will be back to regular posting soon.
My thoughts are with you and your sister.
Thoughts and prayers.
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Looks like 30 is back in blue, welcome 30.
Who is this BrianZB that joined on 12/3 with 0 posts that is now an admin?
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Looks like 30 is back in blue, welcome 30.
Who is this BrianZB that joined on 12/3 with 0 posts that is now an admin?
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Looks like 30 is back in blue, welcome 30.
Who is this BrianZB that joined on 12/3 with 0 posts that is now an admin?
Wow ... I thought for a minute his color was my eyes, but it says ADMIN too! Well done BrianZB, well done.
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To my KTC brothers/sisters - Lots of good things have happened here lately that outweigh the bad things. Sometimes we just need perspective.
First, (although I am late on this) super big congrats to Basshaug for stepping up to moderator. This is a sizeable and active board and always good to have a fresh pair of eyes, especially young, keen eyes that are fair. He will absolutely do a fine job and is a good man albeit a bit hairy.
Next (elephant in the room), time to consider bringing back Lipi v2.0. Read how many 100 HOF train roasts and speeches call him out as instrumental. Come on guys, suck up the pride and do the right thing.
I am out of the hospital and feeling much better and am back to wake up, piss, post.
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To my KTC brothers/sisters - Lots of good things have happened here lately that outweigh the bad things. Sometimes we just need perspective.
First, (although I am late on this) super big congrats to Basshaug for stepping up to moderator. This is a sizeable and active board and always good to have a fresh pair of eyes, especially young, keen eyes that are fair. He will absolutely do a fine job and is a good man albeit a bit hairy.
Next (elephant in the room), time to consider bringing back Lipi v2.0. Read how many 100 HOF train roasts and speeches call him out as instrumental. Come on guys, suck up the pride and do the right thing.
I am out of the hospital and feeling much better and am back to wake up, piss, post.
It's great to have you back Done4 and I second your motion to bring back Lipi. This place sure as hell ain't the same without him and the rest of Mayhem.
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Glad to see you back. I wouldn't be here and probably wouldn't be quit if it weren't for your encouragement.
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To my KTC brothers/sisters - Lots of good things have happened here lately that outweigh the bad things. Sometimes we just need perspective.
First, (although I am late on this) super big congrats to Basshaug for stepping up to moderator. This is a sizeable and active board and always good to have a fresh pair of eyes, especially young, keen eyes that are fair. He will absolutely do a fine job and is a good man albeit a bit hairy.
Next (elephant in the room), time to consider bringing back Lipi v2.0. Read how many 100 HOF train roasts and speeches call him out as instrumental. Come on guys, suck up the pride and do the right thing.
I am out of the hospital and feeling much better and am back to wake up, piss, post.
It's great to have you back Done4 and I second your motion to bring back Lipi. This place sure as hell ain't the same without him and the rest of Mayhem.
Welcome back you quit had ass. Glad you are recovering!
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To my KTC brothers/sisters - Lots of good things have happened here lately that outweigh the bad things. Sometimes we just need perspective.
First, (although I am late on this) super big congrats to Basshaug for stepping up to moderator. This is a sizeable and active board and always good to have a fresh pair of eyes, especially young, keen eyes that are fair. He will absolutely do a fine job and is a good man albeit a bit hairy.
Next (elephant in the room), time to consider bringing back Lipi v2.0. Read how many 100 HOF train roasts and speeches call him out as instrumental. Come on guys, suck up the pride and do the right thing.
I am out of the hospital and feeling much better and am back to wake up, piss, post.
It's great to have you back Done4 and I second your motion to bring back Lipi. This place sure as hell ain't the same without him and the rest of Mayhem.
Welcome back you quit had ass. Glad you are recovering!
Welcome back done4! How many other patient's rooms did you kicked out of you creeper? 'ninja'
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Welcome back Done4. Glad you are feeling better.
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Remember the fat, hairy nurse that kept giving you sponge baths? You're Welcome.
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Glad you're back. We missed you.
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Appreciate the well wishes but my intent was not to fish for comments on my health, rather to get responses from mods/admins on Lipi. He played a role. Very well indeed. What's the chances of reinstatement for the good of KTC and bringing Mayhem back?
Let's discuss openly. And apologies to GMann for my comments the day he was banned.
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Appreciate the well wishes but my intent was not to fish for comments on my health, rather to get responses from mods/admins on Lipi. He played a role. Very well indeed. What's the chances of reinstatement for the good of KTC and bringing Mayhem back?
Let's discuss openly. And apologies to GMann for my comments the day he was banned.
Really? No colors want to say anything at all about Lipi?
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3rd floor, congratulations man!
Bas ass April Ape support.
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3rd floor, congratulations man!
Bas ass April Ape support.
Hell yes! Dude 300 is one if the big ones. Winning is easier now, right? Not a constant fight
Proud to quit with you on a milestone day!
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3rd floor, congratulations man!
Bas ass April Ape support.
Hell yes! Dude 300 is one if the big ones. Winning is easier now, right? Not a constant fight
Proud to quit with you on a milestone day!
Congrats Done4 the 300's are awesome. Congrats and thanks for all you do.
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3rd floor, congratulations man!
Bas ass April Ape support.
Hell yes! Dude 300 is one if the big ones. Winning is easier now, right? Not a constant fight
Proud to quit with you on a milestone day!
Congrats Done4 the 300's are awesome. Congrats and thanks for all you do.
To all the new quitters, 300 is a good place to be. It's not nearly the daily fight to the point where I rarely think about dip. My focus has fully returned. I feel on top of my game. I'm not a bastard to the wife and family. Life is good.
Back when I was in double digits and early HOF stages, GrizClaws gave me some good advice. My complaint was how to keep my job and make the boss happy when I was having a hard time focusing and completing a task. Griz told me to fake it till I make it. I did the best I could and kept moving the ball forward at work thinking I was going to get canned at any time. Fast forward to last week and our annual raise/bonus conversation. Somehow I got the biggest raise and bonus I've seen in years. This is in a year where the final 8 months I was tobacco free but angst ridden.
The point for all you new guys is this: No matter how bad you think it's going, no matter how bad the urges, no matter how bad you think you're doing at work, keep plowing ahead. Worry about staying quit and doing the best you can for only that day. Tomorrow is another day. Eventually you'll hit the stage where there is little to no struggle.
When Worktowin and Dagranger told me early on that it was worth the fight, that it gets SO SO much better, I'm glad I was wise enough to listen and to persevere. For those with fresh quits stay laser focused on the desired result to be quit. You'll be in a much better place very soon.
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Great job on the 365 D4! Never a doubt in my mind bro, congrats!! Thanks for being a part of my quit, as well as a part of so many others ... we appreciate it!!
'dance' 'clap' 'dance'
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Great job on the 365 D4! Never a doubt in my mind bro, congrats!! Thanks for being a part of my quit, as well as a part of so many others ... we appreciate it!!
'dance' 'clap' 'dance'
Sweet! One trip around the sun! Congrats!
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Great job on the 365 D4! Never a doubt in my mind bro, congrats!! Thanks for being a part of my quit, as well as a part of so many others ... we appreciate it!!
'dance' 'clap' 'dance'
Sweet! One trip around the sun! Congrats!
Congrats Joe! 'boob' 'band' 'band'
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Great job on the 365 D4! Never a doubt in my mind bro, congrats!! Thanks for being a part of my quit, as well as a part of so many others ... we appreciate it!!
'dance' 'clap' 'dance'
Sweet! One trip around the sun! Congrats!
Congrats Joe! 'boob' 'band' 'band'
Hell yes! More greatness ahead man! QLF with you today.
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Great job on the 365 D4! Never a doubt in my mind bro, congrats!! Thanks for being a part of my quit, as well as a part of so many others ... we appreciate it!!
'dance' 'clap' 'dance'
Sweet! One trip around the sun! Congrats!
Congrats Joe! 'boob' 'band' 'band'
Hell yes! More greatness ahead man! QLF with you today.
'oh yeah'
Keep it rocking D4! 'ninja'
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Great job on the 365 D4! Never a doubt in my mind bro, congrats!! Thanks for being a part of my quit, as well as a part of so many others ... we appreciate it!!
'dance' 'clap' 'dance'
Sweet! One trip around the sun! Congrats!
Congrats Joe! 'boob' 'band' 'band'
Hell yes! More greatness ahead man! QLF with you today.
'oh yeah'
Keep it rocking D4! 'ninja'
365 Days, bad ass man!
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Great job on the 365 D4! Never a doubt in my mind bro, congrats!! Thanks for being a part of my quit, as well as a part of so many others ... we appreciate it!!
'dance' 'clap' 'dance'
Sweet! One trip around the sun! Congrats!
Congrats Joe! 'boob' 'band' 'band'
Hell yes! More greatness ahead man! QLF with you today.
'oh yeah'
Keep it rocking D4! 'ninja'
365 Days, bad ass man!
Nice job D4!
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Great job on the 365 D4! Never a doubt in my mind bro, congrats!! Thanks for being a part of my quit, as well as a part of so many others ... we appreciate it!!
'dance' 'clap' 'dance'
Sweet! One trip around the sun! Congrats!
Congrats Joe! 'boob' 'band' 'band'
Hell yes! More greatness ahead man! QLF with you today.
'oh yeah'
Keep it rocking D4! 'ninja'
365 Days, bad ass man!
Nice job D4!
Great 1 year Done4, thanks for all the support.
'party2'
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Great job on the 365 D4! Never a doubt in my mind bro, congrats!! Thanks for being a part of my quit, as well as a part of so many others ... we appreciate it!!
'dance' 'clap' 'dance'
Sweet! One trip around the sun! Congrats!
Congrats Joe! 'boob' 'band' 'band'
Hell yes! More greatness ahead man! QLF with you today.
'oh yeah'
Keep it rocking D4! 'ninja'
365 Days, bad ass man!
Nice job D4!
Great 1 year Done4, thanks for all the support.
'party2'
I gotta pile on here! way to go Done! 'boob' 'boob' 'boob'
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Great job on the 365 D4! Never a doubt in my mind bro, congrats!! Thanks for being a part of my quit, as well as a part of so many others ... we appreciate it!!
'dance' 'clap' 'dance'
Sweet! One trip around the sun! Congrats!
Congrats Joe! 'boob' 'band' 'band'
Hell yes! More greatness ahead man! QLF with you today.
'oh yeah'
Keep it rocking D4! 'ninja'
365 Days, bad ass man!
Nice job D4!
Great 1 year Done4, thanks for all the support.
'party2'
I gotta pile on here! way to go Done! 'boob' 'boob' 'boob'
Proud of You!!
Congratulations on Your 1 year milestone!
ODAAT and NAFAR
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Great job on the 365 D4! Never a doubt in my mind bro, congrats!! Thanks for being a part of my quit, as well as a part of so many others ... we appreciate it!!
'dance' 'clap' 'dance'
Sweet! One trip around the sun! Congrats!
Congrats Joe! 'boob' 'band' 'band'
Hell yes! More greatness ahead man! QLF with you today.
'oh yeah'
Keep it rocking D4! 'ninja'
365 Days, bad ass man!
Nice job D4!
Great 1 year Done4, thanks for all the support.
'party2'
I gotta pile on here! way to go Done! 'boob' 'boob' 'boob'
Proud of You!!
Congratulations on Your 1 year milestone!
ODAAT and NAFAR
I'll join the love fest and quit with you today D4!
Awesome job!
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Great job on the 365 D4! Never a doubt in my mind bro, congrats!! Thanks for being a part of my quit, as well as a part of so many others ... we appreciate it!!
'dance' 'clap' 'dance'
Sweet! One trip around the sun! Congrats!
Congrats Joe! 'boob' 'band' 'band'
Hell yes! More greatness ahead man! QLF with you today.
'oh yeah'
Keep it rocking D4! 'ninja'
365 Days, bad ass man!
Nice job D4!
Great 1 year Done4, thanks for all the support.
'party2'
I gotta pile on here! way to go Done! 'boob' 'boob' 'boob'
Proud of You!!
Congratulations on Your 1 year milestone!
ODAAT and NAFAR
I'll join the love fest and quit with you today D4!
Awesome job!
Yes. Helluva job from a helluvs dude. Thanks for being a great quit force.
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Thanks guys, I'm both floored and appreciate of the comments here and in Aug14 roll. Not gonna lie, a year feels real damn good.
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Thanks guys, I'm both floored and appreciate of the comments here and in Aug14 roll. Not gonna lie, a year feels real damn good.
sorry I missed the party...
Congrats Done4!
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I've really enjoyed reading through your intro Done4. Your story is quite intriguing and why this site does so well. Sorry I haven't made it in these parts before. Thanks for showing your support over in November. And a belated congrats on one year. Albeit a great accomplishment, it's still just another drop in your bucket of quit. Quit with you today!
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4th floor +1! Congrats man, "I missed it by that much"...
Quit with you EDD!
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4th floor +1! Congrats man, "I missed it by that much"...
Quit with you EDD!
400 is awesome. Enjoy another day of freedom - isn't it amazing how much easier the struggle is with each milestone?
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4th floor +1! Congrats man, "I missed it by that much"...
Quit with you EDD!
400 is awesome. Enjoy another day of freedom - isn't it amazing how much easier the struggle is with each milestone?
Damm, I missed the party. Congrats my friend, awesome job! 'oh yeah'
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Congratulations on 500 days of freedom sir!
This is a great example of what freedom looks like. Enjoy your day dude - you've earned it!
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Congratulations on 500 days of freedom sir!
This is a great example of what freedom looks like. Enjoy your day dude - you've earned it!
Nicely done, always staying 22 back!! Congrats on a big milestone! See you on roll for 501 ... 'ninja'
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Congratulations on 500 days of freedom sir!
This is a great example of what freedom looks like. Enjoy your day dude - you've earned it!
Nicely done, always staying 22 back!! Congrats on a big milestone! See you on roll for 501 ... 'ninja'
Half comma brotha, congrats!!!
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Congratulations on 500 days of freedom sir!
This is a great example of what freedom looks like. Enjoy your day dude - you've earned it!
Nicely done, always staying 22 back!! Congrats on a big milestone! See you on roll for 501 ... 'ninja'
Half comma brotha, congrats!!!
Congrats DONE4. 500 is one helluva a milestone. Proud to be quit with you today!
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Congratulations on 500 days of freedom sir!
This is a great example of what freedom looks like. Enjoy your day dude - you've earned it!
Nicely done, always staying 22 back!! Congrats on a big milestone! See you on roll for 501 ... 'ninja'
Half comma brotha, congrats!!!
Congrats DONE4. 500 is one helluva a milestone. Proud to be quit with you today!
CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR DAY 500!
You were the first PM I received on this site and the encouragement started then, appreciate you and your support as always. Such a great inspiration and quit role model.
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Holy Crap!!! How did I nearly miss this half comma celebration??? Guess my head must be 'up and locked'!! Seriously.... you sir, officially rock! 500 is nothing to sneeze at! Looking forward to joining you there in about a month or so. Of course, it's just another mile marker of many to come. Glad you're in this quit with us....ALL of us!
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Congrats on your 2 year quit mark Done4. Thanks for helping and leading the way.
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Congrats on your 2 year quit mark Done4. Thanks for helping and leading the way.
Congrats on a huge milestone!!
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Congrats on your 2 year quit mark Done4. Thanks for helping and leading the way.
Congrats on a huge milestone!!
Two years is Badass! Congrats! 'oh yeah'
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Congrats on your 2 year quit mark Done4. Thanks for helping and leading the way.
Congrats on a huge milestone!!
Two years is Badass! Congrats! 'oh yeah'
Gratz on the 2 years!
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Congrats on your 2 year quit mark Done4. Thanks for helping and leading the way.
Congrats on a huge milestone!!
Two years is Badass! Congrats! 'oh yeah'
Gratz on the 2 years!
2 year's is badassery! Quit on!
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Congrats on your 2 year quit mark Done4. Thanks for helping and leading the way.
Congrats on a huge milestone!!
Two years is Badass! Congrats! 'oh yeah'
Gratz on the 2 years!
2 year's is badassery! Quit on!
Congrats on 2 Years!!!
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Congrats on your 2 year quit mark Done4. Thanks for helping and leading the way.
Congrats on a huge milestone!!
Two years is Badass! Congrats! 'oh yeah'
Gratz on the 2 years!
2 year's is badassery! Quit on!
Congrats on 2 Years!!!
Congrats man, awesome quit!
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Congrats on your 2 year quit mark Done4. Thanks for helping and leading the way.
Congrats on a huge milestone!!
Two years is Badass! Congrats! 'oh yeah'
Gratz on the 2 years!
2 year's is badassery! Quit on!
Congrats on 2 Years!!!
Congrats man, awesome quit!
Well done sir! Two laps around the sun!
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Congrats on your 2 year quit mark Done4. Thanks for helping and leading the way.
Congrats on a huge milestone!!
Two years is Badass! Congrats! 'oh yeah'
Gratz on the 2 years!
2 year's is badassery! Quit on!
Congrats on 2 Years!!!
Congrats man, awesome quit!
Well done sir! Two laps around the sun!
Congrats on your 2 years Done4. After reading your intro, I just remembered you were the first one to reach out to me on this site and led my foggy ass over to Aug '15. Would/Should have thanked you earlier, but those first days I couldn't think straight for 3 seconds in a row and it was such a fucking blur. So, long overdue, but THANK YOU and proud to be quit with you!
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Congrats on your 2 year quit mark Done4. Thanks for helping and leading the way.
Congrats on a huge milestone!!
Two years is Badass! Congrats! 'oh yeah'
Gratz on the 2 years!
2 year's is badassery! Quit on!
Congrats on 2 Years!!!
Congrats man, awesome quit!
Well done sir! Two laps around the sun!
Congrats on your 2 years Done4. After reading your intro, I just remembered you were the first one to reach out to me on this site and led my foggy ass over to Aug '15. Would/Should have thanked you earlier, but those first days I couldn't think straight for 3 seconds in a row and it was such a fucking blur. So, long overdue, but THANK YOU and proud to be quit with you!
Screw the 730, 1095, etc. celebrations ... I know D4M quit on May 5th, so Cinco de mayo is the official celebration! Congrats Joe, always stay 22 behind me!!
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Two years and a day without nic and 200 without alc. Can't say that I miss either. Caffeine has been gone for a while as well, guessing 5 months? Oddly the one that is hard to beat for me is sugar. Frozen yogurt, ice cream, chocolate, warm cookies and any kind of pie. I have no backbone or willpower to fight it. It's almost beach season and I need to get into my bikini so time to bear down and lose 10 pounds. Thanks to all of the kind words.
Back to nicotine. I'm happy about the FDA announcement to regulate ecigs however three years for the industry to comply is too long. Clean air for all is a good thing and the smell of the stuff is disgusting right up there with cigarette smoke. For your friends and family that think vaping is a safer alternative to smoking, have them google popcorn lung.
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Two years and a day without nic and 200 without alc. Can't say that I miss either. Caffeine has been gone for a while as well, guessing 5 months? Oddly the one that is hard to beat for me is sugar. Frozen yogurt, ice cream, chocolate, warm cookies and any kind of pie. I have no backbone or willpower to fight it. It's almost beach season and I need to get into my bikini so time to bear down and lose 10 pounds. Thanks to all of the kind words.
Back to nicotine. I'm happy about the FDA announcement to regulate ecigs however three years for the industry to comply is too long. Clean air for all is a good thing and the smell of the stuff is disgusting right up there with cigarette smoke. For your friends and family that think vaping is a safer alternative to smoking, have them google popcorn lung.
in complete agreement on both the sugar being almost as tough as nic to beat, and on relief that there's some progress dealing with ecigs. The whining and fake arguments of the industry are pretty predictable too. Keep up the great quitting Done4!
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Congrats on 8th floor man!
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Congrats on 8th floor man!
What he said! Well done!
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Congrats on 8th floor man!
What he said! Well done!
Nice milestone dude. I read your whole intro again last night. Wow. What a ride!
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Congrats on 8th floor man!
What he said! Well done!
Nice milestone dude. I read your whole intro again last night. Wow. What a ride!
Well Done 4....
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Thanks guys. No regrets quitting dip. Top 5 best decision ever after a few more important ones.
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Congrats on 8th floor man!
What he said! Well done!
Nice milestone dude. I read your whole intro again last night. Wow. What a ride!
Well Done 4....
Congrats on 800!!?
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Done4, you made my very first PM on my day 1 here.
Thanks for reaching out and showing me how to help others.
Thanks for the support in my quit and others.
Happy Comma Day!
Badassery.
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Done4, you made my very first PM on my day 1 here.
Thanks for reaching out and showing me how to help others.
Thanks for the support in my quit and others.
Happy Comma Day!
Badassery.
What that young Quittress above said. You, sir, have shown the way since day one, and I have no reason to doubt you'll continue to do the same for many days yet to come. Awesome! Proud to be walking the quit road with you.
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Done4, you made my very first PM on my day 1 here.
Thanks for reaching out and showing me how to help others.
Thanks for the support in my quit and others.
Happy Comma Day!
Badassery.
What that young Quittress above said. You, sir, have shown the way since day one, and I have no reason to doubt you'll continue to do the same for many days yet to come. Awesome! Proud to be walking the quit road with you.
Congratulations my friend.
Only the most bad ass of bad asses earn a comma. What was so hard is now so obvious. Celebrate today. You've earned it!
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Done4, you made my very first PM on my day 1 here.
Thanks for reaching out and showing me how to help others.
Thanks for the support in my quit and others.
Happy Comma Day!
Badassery.
What that young Quittress above said. You, sir, have shown the way since day one, and I have no reason to doubt you'll continue to do the same for many days yet to come. Awesome! Proud to be walking the quit road with you.
Congratulations my friend.
Only the most bad ass of bad asses earn a comma. What was so hard is now so obvious. Celebrate today. You've earned it!
Congrats on the Dangle D4!!
Proud to be quit with you man!
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Thanks guys. Always good to have studly support - especially you Chickdip! I can't imagine going back. SMH at circle pocket jeans.
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Congrats on 3 laps man!
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Congrats on 3 laps man!
Congrats on 3 years quit!