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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: Pilgrim on September 21, 2015, 04:22:00 PM
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Hello everyone; i've quit a few times but never really had a support group; hoping it will help this go round. I was quit from all forms of tobacco for twenty years and gave in to a dip one day. After a year, i quit using nicotine lozenges and after another year, made the ridiculous decision to start up again; now i've been dipping for 3 years and plan to stop once more on my birtday nov.1. Not being one for cold turkey, i thought i'd again use the nicotine gum and today had the thought to start adding some non-nicotine dip to my grizzly prior to starting the gum. Quitting like this worked in the past so i'll give it another go, yeah?
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That plan sucks, Pilgrim. Go to the KillTheCan.org link above and start reading. This is a NO NICOTINE site. No nicotine means no nicotine regardless of your method of ingesting it. Personally, I tried to perfect anal dipping. The trick I never could master was spitting.
You had the right idea coming here. And I can't wait until your testes drop and you quit. But until then, get lost.
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You do realize you would be on day 40 of your quit and through the withdrawals by that point, right? What a great birthday present to yourself. Day 40 is almost halfway to HOF, but instead you want to play with fire and toss cancer in your mouth for 40 more days? I have to be honest, I can't really get behind that brother. If you want to come back today, dump that crap down the toilet and quit for real, that'd be awesome!
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No Nicotine chew is a great idea as long as you go with just that. Pilgrim trust the guys on here. Loads of experience.
Quit for today and get it over with. I planned to quit for 10 years. I am quit today.
I want to quit with you today my brother.
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Quitting like this worked in the past so i'll give it another go
Really? I'm guessing your definition of "quit" is different than ours is. If that nugget of wisdom were actually true, you'd STILL be quit. What you are, m'man, is a serial stopper. Nothing more.
Nicotine owns you. Plain and simple. KTC has a method to help you break free but you gotta man up, drop it cold turkey, and put some quit under you. Every weaning method reaches a point where you gotta stop and go cold turkey anyway. Why prolong your pain dude? Do it now because... what if that next dip costs you your face? Your life?
Now is the time.
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Quitting like this worked in the past so i'll give it another go, yeah?
No, it didn't work in the past, that's why you're here...or were here. Coming here and making an announcement like this feels good for you but does NOTHING. Just quit the shit and get in here.
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Just man up and quit. You'll need to white knuckle it for a few days to get through the suck and the fog etc.
It's hard and it sucks but you have to quit making excuses and just do it.
I'm on day 41 of my cold turkey quit and yeah it has mostly sucked but I'm doing it one day at a time.
You can do it too
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Brother you should do as everyone here says and skip the plan and just go for it now. Planned quits never work. Get in here and do it brother!
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Yeah, sure. Whatever.
And the tin man doesn't have a sheet metal cock.
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Really? Come back November 1st. No one here wants to hear about lozenges, a little less dip ,maybe fake this time oops or was it fake last dip oh hell it don't matter I can't quit anyways! See you never quit before because your an addict and all that Yaya sisterhood is addict bullshit talk. You really want to quit then by God man up, be a man and quit or be a puss like I was for 38 years and kill yourself? It's your choice, man or puss?
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Hi! Hey, I'm just gonna be blunt here. I've taken it upon myself to begin making a list of people who have come to this forum, stated they planned to quit, and never returned again. I decided to pursue this undertaking to show you, people like you, or anyone else reading intros where "planned quits" end up 99.9% of the time. This list is by no means comprehensive as I've only just started with most recent examples, but it happens so frequently, it won't be long before it's quite lengthy:
Time-Waster #1 (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11310362/1/)
Time-Waster #2 (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11310694/1/)
Time-Waster #3 (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11314743/1/)
Time-Waster #4 (This one is as recent as yesterday. He too thought quitting on his birthday would give him some sort of special motivation. Didn't quite work out that way.) (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11325928/1/)
The point of this is to not openly humiliate these people (they've done a fine job at humiliating themselves), it's to illustrate a few things to you:
1.) We've all "planned" to quit on birthdays, New Years, before weddings, before kids were born, so on and so forth. We know it's all bullshit. Therefore, we'll believe it when we see it. You can't kid a kidder, man.
2.) We all know how good it feels to be quit, and we want that for you. The people who show up here who refuse to pull the trigger are actually painful to see, because they're holding their own freedom over their own heads. If only they'd make the jump, they'd feel so much better.
3.) Planning to quit is little more than your addicted mind telling you "See? We've planned to quit. We can feel good about that. Now we can worry about it later, and dip right now. In fact, maybe we should dip even more. Got to cram in as much as possible between now and the quit date!"
Well, that's all I've got. Hopefully you prove me wrong. It'd be really easy to do that, too. Dump your shit in the toilet today and quit. I'd love nothing more than for that to happen, and I and everyone else WOULD support you and your quit as if it were our own. But, worst case scenario, I'll have another intro thread to link to the next person who shows up here trying to kid themselves.
Quit TODAY.
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Why don't y'all just tell me how you really feel :)
My state sponsors a quit site and their replacement stuff is free for me; they are the ones recommending the nic replacement...iqh quitline.
don't put me on the losers list just yet please. once i'm down to a much lower nic level, it will still be cold turkey from there and once i am quit with all of it, i promise to not get on here and start bragging.
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Why don't y'all just tell me how you really feel :)
My state sponsors a quit site and their replacement stuff is free for me; they are the ones recommending the nic replacement...iqh quitline.
don't put me on the losers list just yet please. once i'm down to a much lower nic level, it will still be cold turkey from there and once i am quit with all of it, i promise to not get on here and start bragging.
These guys are right. The best plan, is to walk out to your lawn, open your can and shake the fucker out. Then log in here post a day 1 on roll, and buckle up for a wild ride. Each of us has quit and stayed quit for some interval of time. Each of us has been right where you are, and will tell you that the decision we made on our day 1 was well worth the ride. I'm not going to tell you it was easy or blow smoke, but I will tell you it was worth it. This is a great support system, even if we want to choke each other out at time.
We quit for today, one day, every day. Little bites is the key to success. Every damn day.
Step on in, the water is fine... I'll quit with you today.
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i just moved my date to oct 1 and i'm not over here congratulating myself. i'm a nervous wreck and quitting cold turkey without any aid is just too much of a shock to the system for me...sorry. my hat is off to you hard core badasses though, really!
can i post again once i get down to 0 nicotine?
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Hi Pilgrim
Sorry to hear your using nic replacement bud. The shit is pure garbage. You are still poisoning your self bud and we just hate to see it. Your life is worth saving and nic just isnt the way to go. Nut up and just say no more!!!!! If ya can't well that's to bad. Come back and post when you are using 0 nic at all and ready to fight the good fight.
Take care bud.
Ray
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Will do; i'll be back. Thanks Ray
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i just moved my date to oct 1 and i'm not over here congratulating myself. i'm a nervous wreck and quitting cold turkey without any aid is just too much of a shock to the system for me...sorry. my hat is off to you hard core badasses though, really!
can i post again once i get down to 0 nicotine?
Sounds like me for 40+ years. I was different, I just couldn't quit without some to take the edge off. When I first joined this forum I also had a half assed plan that postponed the pain. The crew convinced me that I had to pull the damn bandaid off, that was 3 1/2 years ago and I'm so glad I listened to everyone. That's the way it is pilgrim.
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If you really think about it, planned quits are bullshit! Just like wt did ,myself tried quitting for 38 year's until I found ktc and I have tried all this weening myself , cutting back well here's the cold hard truth for you, you're an addict and just like an alcoholic we can't have just 23 beers today instead of our usual case and maybe 22 next week. That's pure addict bullshit talk! Grab your sac, man up today and prove your a man, if you don't you will still be finding excuses 10 years from now, I'm living proof of that!
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Hey Pilgrim,
I was going to come on here today and announce something similar. I had a 10/11 plan. However, I realized how many "plans" I had to "quit" through the years and after realizing that, pretty much told myself to go fuck myself. So after fucking myself, I stopped chewing. I had one last dip, finished up, talked to God, and jumped in the pool.
Stop dipping your toes in the water. Jump in ya sumbitch B)B
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Hey Pilgrim,
I was going to come on here today and announce something similar. I had a 10/11 plan. However, I realized how many "plans" I had to "quit" through the years and after realizing that, pretty much told myself to go fuck myself. So after fucking myself, I stopped chewing. I had one last dip, finished up, talked to God, and jumped in the pool.
Stop dipping your toes in the water. Jump in ya sumbitch B)B
^^^THIS IS HOW IT IS DONE.
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Pilgrim! I'm glad to see you back, albeit not yet quit. Talk to us, man. You said something I'm very curious about.
You said quitting cold turkey would be too much of a shock to your system. I'm wondering what leads you to believe this, or more specifically, what you're worried would happen if you were to quit cold turkey. Also, I would argue that putting a potent drug such as nicotine into your body is far more shocking for all the thousands of documented reasons out there that are known.
I ask these things because while I'm not completely all-knowing, I have not once heard of a person dying or otherwise needing to become hospitalized due to quitting cold turkey. If they were, you could rest assured that would be in all the nicotine replacement commercials. Nicorette gum would LOVE to be able to say you need their products because if you don't use them, you may become very ill or totally incapacitated. They don't say that, though. They say "quitting nicotine is hard." Yeah, it is hard. As is anything else worth doing in life.
Nevertheless, I can't come to your house and dump your cans for you. I can only be your GPS, and as your GPS, I'm telling you that the most efficient, shortest route to quit is to dump your cans tonight. But, you're the driver. If you want to take the long route, I can't stop you. Either way, we will be here to support and quit along side you when you do quit.
All the best,
Invader.
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Pilgrim! I'm glad to see you back, albeit not yet quit. Talk to us, man. You said something I'm very curious about.
You said quitting cold turkey would be too much of a shock to your system. I'm wondering what leads you to believe this, or more specifically, what you're worried would happen if you were to quit cold turkey. Also, I would argue that putting a potent drug such as nicotine into your body is far more shocking for all the thousands of documented reasons out there that are known.
I ask these things because while I'm not completely all-knowing, I have not once heard of a person dying or otherwise needing to become hospitalized due to quitting cold turkey. If they were, you could rest assured that would be in all the nicotine replacement commercials. Nicorette gum would LOVE to be able to say you need their products because if you don't use them, you may become very ill or totally incapacitated. They don't say that, though. They say "quitting nicotine is hard." Yeah, it is hard. As is anything else worth doing in life.
Nevertheless, I can't come to your house and dump your cans for you. I can only be your GPS, and as your GPS, I'm telling you that the most efficient, shortest route to quit is to dump your cans tonight. But, you're the driver. If you want to take the long route, I can't stop you. Either way, we will be here to support and quit along side you when you do quit.
All the best,
Invader.
Translation: Fuck yourself and then jump in the lake. Stop dipping your toes. I say this respectfully, of course.
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Pilgrim! I'm glad to see you back, albeit not yet quit. Talk to us, man. You said something I'm very curious about.
You said quitting cold turkey would be too much of a shock to your system. I'm wondering what leads you to believe this, or more specifically, what you're worried would happen if you were to quit cold turkey. Also, I would argue that putting a potent drug such as nicotine into your body is far more shocking for all the thousands of documented reasons out there that are known.
I ask these things because while I'm not completely all-knowing, I have not once heard of a person dying or otherwise needing to become hospitalized due to quitting cold turkey. If they were, you could rest assured that would be in all the nicotine replacement commercials. Nicorette gum would LOVE to be able to say you need their products because if you don't use them, you may become very ill or totally incapacitated. They don't say that, though. They say "quitting nicotine is hard." Yeah, it is hard. As is anything else worth doing in life.
Nevertheless, I can't come to your house and dump your cans for you. I can only be your GPS, and as your GPS, I'm telling you that the most efficient, shortest route to quit is to dump your cans tonight. But, you're the driver. If you want to take the long route, I can't stop you. Either way, we will be here to support and quit along side you when you do quit.
All the best,
Invader.
Translation: Fuck yourself and then jump in the lake. Stop dipping your toes. I say this respectfully, of course.
Everybody's here at the party but the guest of Honor, pilgrim. Hopefully he will show up soon.
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Pilgrim! I'm glad to see you back, albeit not yet quit. Talk to us, man. You said something I'm very curious about.
You said quitting cold turkey would be too much of a shock to your system. I'm wondering what leads you to believe this, or more specifically, what you're worried would happen if you were to quit cold turkey. Also, I would argue that putting a potent drug such as nicotine into your body is far more shocking for all the thousands of documented reasons out there that are known.
I ask these things because while I'm not completely all-knowing, I have not once heard of a person dying or otherwise needing to become hospitalized due to quitting cold turkey. If they were, you could rest assured that would be in all the nicotine replacement commercials. Nicorette gum would LOVE to be able to say you need their products because if you don't use them, you may become very ill or totally incapacitated. They don't say that, though. They say "quitting nicotine is hard." Yeah, it is hard. As is anything else worth doing in life.
Nevertheless, I can't come to your house and dump your cans for you. I can only be your GPS, and as your GPS, I'm telling you that the most efficient, shortest route to quit is to dump your cans tonight. But, you're the driver. If you want to take the long route, I can't stop you. Either way, we will be here to support and quit along side you when you do quit.
All the best,
Invader.
Translation: Fuck yourself and then jump in the lake. Stop dipping your toes. I say this respectfully, of course.
bullshit
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Pilgrim! I'm glad to see you back, albeit not yet quit. Talk to us, man. You said something I'm very curious about.
You said quitting cold turkey would be too much of a shock to your system. I'm wondering what leads you to believe this, or more specifically, what you're worried would happen if you were to quit cold turkey. Also, I would argue that putting a potent drug such as nicotine into your body is far more shocking for all the thousands of documented reasons out there that are known.
I ask these things because while I'm not completely all-knowing, I have not once heard of a person dying or otherwise needing to become hospitalized due to quitting cold turkey. If they were, you could rest assured that would be in all the nicotine replacement commercials. Nicorette gum would LOVE to be able to say you need their products because if you don't use them, you may become very ill or totally incapacitated. They don't say that, though. They say "quitting nicotine is hard." Yeah, it is hard. As is anything else worth doing in life.
Nevertheless, I can't come to your house and dump your cans for you. I can only be your GPS, and as your GPS, I'm telling you that the most efficient, shortest route to quit is to dump your cans tonight. But, you're the driver. If you want to take the long route, I can't stop you. Either way, we will be here to support and quit along side you when you do quit.
All the best,
Invader.
Translation: Fuck yourself and then jump in the lake. Stop dipping your toes. I say this respectfully, of course.
bullshit
What's bullshit?
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Planning never worked for me either.
For example, this year I had planned to quit in late July/early August as I was scheduled to get some dental work done. I even went out and bought a bunch of gum thinking that I'd use it once my quit began. That planned quit never happened. For whatever reason when the time came I didn't quit. I'm sure I gave myself a million reasons to buy another can of Copenhagen long cut, and I probably told myself I would quit for real on New Year's Eve or on my birthday next year.
By Friday September 4th, the day before I quit, the only plan I had was to go out and purchase 2 more cans of Copenhagen long cut for the long Labor day weekend. That day happened to be a crazy day at work and I never got around to buying those extra cans. I ran out of chew later that night - I used every last grain of that shit. I probably would have bought more but I had a few drinks and I didn't want to risk a DUI on Labor Day weekend just running out for a few more cans.
I woke up Saturday September 5th with no dip in the house and I put my foot down - I decided to just gut it out without dip for the next three days to see what would happen. It was more awful than I expected and I found this site and joined a few days later - I am thankful for that. :D
I guess the point is that this did not start for me until the chew was gone and I had decided not to use nicotine anymore. I'm glad I didn't wait until my birthday or some other random date in the future. I should be about 150 days quit by my birthday next year and that will be a great birthday present.
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Pilgrim! I'm glad to see you back, albeit not yet quit. Talk to us, man. You said something I'm very curious about.
You said quitting cold turkey would be too much of a shock to your system. I'm wondering what leads you to believe this, or more specifically, what you're worried would happen if you were to quit cold turkey. Also, I would argue that putting a potent drug such as nicotine into your body is far more shocking for all the thousands of documented reasons out there that are known.
I ask these things because while I'm not completely all-knowing, I have not once heard of a person dying or otherwise needing to become hospitalized due to quitting cold turkey. If they were, you could rest assured that would be in all the nicotine replacement commercials. Nicorette gum would LOVE to be able to say you need their products because if you don't use them, you may become very ill or totally incapacitated. They don't say that, though. They say "quitting nicotine is hard." Yeah, it is hard. As is anything else worth doing in life.
Nevertheless, I can't come to your house and dump your cans for you. I can only be your GPS, and as your GPS, I'm telling you that the most efficient, shortest route to quit is to dump your cans tonight. But, you're the driver. If you want to take the long route, I can't stop you. Either way, we will be here to support and quit along side you when you do quit.
All the best,
Invader.
Translation: Fuck yourself and then jump in the lake. Stop dipping your toes. I say this respectfully, of course.
bullshit
What's bullshit?
My post went through twice, I edit it and put bullshit
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Pilgrim! I'm glad to see you back, albeit not yet quit. Talk to us, man. You said something I'm very curious about.
You said quitting cold turkey would be too much of a shock to your system. I'm wondering what leads you to believe this, or more specifically, what you're worried would happen if you were to quit cold turkey. Also, I would argue that putting a potent drug such as nicotine into your body is far more shocking for all the thousands of documented reasons out there that are known.
I ask these things because while I'm not completely all-knowing, I have not once heard of a person dying or otherwise needing to become hospitalized due to quitting cold turkey. If they were, you could rest assured that would be in all the nicotine replacement commercials. Nicorette gum would LOVE to be able to say you need their products because if you don't use them, you may become very ill or totally incapacitated. They don't say that, though. They say "quitting nicotine is hard." Yeah, it is hard. As is anything else worth doing in life.
Nevertheless, I can't come to your house and dump your cans for you. I can only be your GPS, and as your GPS, I'm telling you that the most efficient, shortest route to quit is to dump your cans tonight. But, you're the driver. If you want to take the long route, I can't stop you. Either way, we will be here to support and quit along side you when you do quit.
All the best,
Invader.
Translation: Fuck yourself and then jump in the lake. Stop dipping your toes. I say this respectfully, of course.
bullshit
What's bullshit?
badass! And you made the right decision not to drive also. I've made that drive more than once and I guess I'll just say I'm lucky it didn't turn out really bad.
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Pilgrim! I'm glad to see you back, albeit not yet quit. Talk to us, man. You said something I'm very curious about.
You said quitting cold turkey would be too much of a shock to your system. I'm wondering what leads you to believe this, or more specifically, what you're worried would happen if you were to quit cold turkey. Also, I would argue that putting a potent drug such as nicotine into your body is far more shocking for all the thousands of documented reasons out there that are known.
I ask these things because while I'm not completely all-knowing, I have not once heard of a person dying or otherwise needing to become hospitalized due to quitting cold turkey. If they were, you could rest assured that would be in all the nicotine replacement commercials. Nicorette gum would LOVE to be able to say you need their products because if you don't use them, you may become very ill or totally incapacitated. They don't say that, though. They say "quitting nicotine is hard." Yeah, it is hard. As is anything else worth doing in life.
Nevertheless, I can't come to your house and dump your cans for you. I can only be your GPS, and as your GPS, I'm telling you that the most efficient, shortest route to quit is to dump your cans tonight. But, you're the driver. If you want to take the long route, I can't stop you. Either way, we will be here to support and quit along side you when you do quit.
All the best,
Invader.
Translation: Fuck yourself and then jump in the lake. Stop dipping your toes. I say this respectfully, of course.
bullshit
What's bullshit?
badass! And you made the right decision not to drive also. I've made that drive more than once and I guess I'll just say I'm lucky it didn't turn out really bad.
I probably used as much cheap Walmart nic gum over the past several years as I did dip. The nic replacement companies are as bad as big tobacco.
Walk outside, dump the cans, post roll, and begin the best battle of your life. All you need to do is quit for today. You can deal with tomorrow, tomorrow.
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Pilgrim! I'm glad to see you back, albeit not yet quit. Talk to us, man. You said something I'm very curious about.
You said quitting cold turkey would be too much of a shock to your system. I'm wondering what leads you to believe this, or more specifically, what you're worried would happen if you were to quit cold turkey. Also, I would argue that putting a potent drug such as nicotine into your body is far more shocking for all the thousands of documented reasons out there that are known.
I ask these things because while I'm not completely all-knowing, I have not once heard of a person dying or otherwise needing to become hospitalized due to quitting cold turkey. If they were, you could rest assured that would be in all the nicotine replacement commercials. Nicorette gum would LOVE to be able to say you need their products because if you don't use them, you may become very ill or totally incapacitated. They don't say that, though. They say "quitting nicotine is hard." Yeah, it is hard. As is anything else worth doing in life.
Nevertheless, I can't come to your house and dump your cans for you. I can only be your GPS, and as your GPS, I'm telling you that the most efficient, shortest route to quit is to dump your cans tonight. But, you're the driver. If you want to take the long route, I can't stop you. Either way, we will be here to support and quit along side you when you do quit.
All the best,
Invader.
Translation: Fuck yourself and then jump in the lake. Stop dipping your toes. I say this respectfully, of course.
bullshit
What's bullshit?
badass! And you made the right decision not to drive also. I've made that drive more than once and I guess I'll just say I'm lucky it didn't turn out really bad.
I probably used as much cheap Walmart nic gum over the past several years as I did dip. The nic replacement companies are as bad as big tobacco.
Walk outside, dump the cans, post roll, and begin the best battle of your life. All you need to do is quit for today. You can deal with tomorrow, tomorrow.
Well the nic bitch has a nice set of balls in her coach purse. I don't plan on seeing this pauser anytime soon.
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That plan sucks too, Pilgrim. (the only plan that works is quitting cold turkey). Read the Tom and Jenny Kern story on the KilltheCan.org link above. Read about Tom's kids at his feet saying "Daddy, don't go" as he takes his last breath. Do you know which dip is the deadly one? Neither do I...nobody does. So don't chance it.
I meant it when I told you that this site is for badass quitters...not bullshiters. NO FUCKING NICOTINE. Do you see an exception in there? Do you see a grey area? Neither do I. NO NIC MEANS NO NIC!!! There might be many different ways to quit. But there is only ONE WAY here. Spit that shit out, dump your can and post roll.
Come back when you're serious. Until then, get lost.
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Well Pilgrim (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9O8oLqY2sxo), here we are on October 1st, the day you moved your "quit date" to, and no one's seen hide nor hair of you.
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Well Pilgrim (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9O8oLqY2sxo), here we are on October 1st, the day you moved your "quit date" to, and no one's seen hide nor hair of you.
Did Pilgrim specify a year?
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See! Planned quits really do work!! (sarcastic voice) 'na na'
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Well Pilgrim (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9O8oLqY2sxo), here we are on October 1st, the day you moved your "quit date" to, and no one's seen hide nor hair of you.
That's because it was just a "planned" quit date. They are total bullshit. I know because I used to do them too. And the sick part is that they actually made me feel better.
The rationalization worked like this...I would tell myself that it's okay to have one more (or the rest of this can) because I was going to be quit Monday the __ day of Fuckknows anyway, right?
That is how I would let myself off the hook and rationalize my way around what I knew I had to do. See Pilgrim, we know you're full of shit. We can see right through your dumbass rationalizations. How? Because we were right there too. We were you.
But we quit. And you can too. I know you don't think you can. But you can. Check out the Quit Groups...all of those names are folks who have been right where you are right now. And we're living free ONE DAY AT A TIME. Join us. Post roll and live free. YOU CAN DO THIS!!!
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Well Pilgrim (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9O8oLqY2sxo), here we are on October 1st, the day you moved your "quit date" to, and no one's seen hide nor hair of you.
Did Pilgrim specify a year?
Bahahaha! That'll teach me not to read the fine print! I'll check back in 2044.
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Well Pilgrim (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9O8oLqY2sxo), here we are on October 1st, the day you moved your "quit date" to, and no one's seen hide nor hair of you.
That's because it was just a "planned" quit date. They are total bullshit. I know because I used to do them too. And the sick part is that they actually made me feel better.
The rationalization worked like this...I would tell myself that it's okay to have one more (or the rest of this can) because I was going to be quit Monday the __ day of Fuckknows anyway, right?
That is how I would let myself off the hook and rationalize my way around what I knew I had to do. See Pilgrim, we know you're full of shit. We can see right through your dumbass rationalizations. How? Because we were right there too. We were you.
But we quit. And you can too. I know you don't think you can. But you can. Check out the Quit Groups...all of those names are folks who have been right where you are right now. And we're living free ONE DAY AT A TIME. Join us. Post roll and live free. YOU CAN DO THIS!!!
I had a lot of planned quit dates over the years. Not only did I fail to follow through, I felt OBLIGATED to load up. Double dip (pardon the pun) prior to the date since the end was in sight. The date came and went and I just bought more dip.
Pilgrim, we are here when you are ready to join us.
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Well Pilgrim (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9O8oLqY2sxo), here we are on October 1st, the day you moved your "quit date" to, and no one's seen hide nor hair of you.
That's because it was just a "planned" quit date. They are total bullshit. I know because I used to do them too. And the sick part is that they actually made me feel better.
The rationalization worked like this...I would tell myself that it's okay to have one more (or the rest of this can) because I was going to be quit Monday the __ day of Fuckknows anyway, right?
That is how I would let myself off the hook and rationalize my way around what I knew I had to do. See Pilgrim, we know you're full of shit. We can see right through your dumbass rationalizations. How? Because we were right there too. We were you.
But we quit. And you can too. I know you don't think you can. But you can. Check out the Quit Groups...all of those names are folks who have been right where you are right now. And we're living free ONE DAY AT A TIME. Join us. Post roll and live free. YOU CAN DO THIS!!!
I had a lot of planned quit dates over the years. Not only did I fail to follow through, I felt OBLIGATED to load up. Double dip (pardon the pun) prior to the date since the end was in sight. The date came and went and I just bought more dip.
Pilgrim, we are here when you are ready to join us.
I won't hold my breath!!! Everyone warned about those failed planned quits! Those that are planning a future quit take heed, we know what we're talking about.
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The only thing addicts plan is the next fix, that's why we do this one day at a time.
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No show - of course.
Hey Pilgrim, when you get back here on your birthday or whenever you decide to post another "quit date" read this entire thread from the beginning again.
The only way to quit is to actually quit.
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I'm not sure why I enjoy reading this thread so much. Perhaps because it reminds of me of how I used to rationalize my nicotine addiction and how silly I used to be. Did we scare away a quitter? I think not. But maybe we scared an addict and maybe that addict will actually realize he's an addict and decide to quit.
I hope you have a happy birthday on November 1st Pilgrim.
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Here lies Pilgrim, who would be a day 4 quitter....had he only actually quit.
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My state sponsors a quit site and their replacement stuff is free for me; they are the ones recommending the nic replacement...iqh quitline.
so cuz this guy reely dont want to quit i want to pose this here to other fokes what are thinkin its time to quit and may be we dont no as much as some buddy on the other side of a phone.
you ask these peepel at the state sponsers site.
* what kind a sucksess rate do you have after 100 days? after a year?
* why do you think the best way to quit nickateen is with nickateen?
* did you ever use nickateen? how long? did you quit?
then you ask your self
* what do guys what acksully quit no bout quittin?
* what kind a sucksess rate do they got?
well let me tell you the anser to the last one for me is rite there in my sig lines. tryin any other way was 0% after 20 days.
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I know he probably won't be back.. I'm more spending the energy to write this for myself, and perhaps any other lookers..
My job sponsors nicotine replacement too. Just because people aren't as successful cold turkey, doesn't mean its okay. Nicotine replacement, is for babies and for wimps. I say this because I used it.. I used the until my Day 1 on this site where I ripped it off. I used it for 2 days and thought damn, I wanna join the guys at KTC. I wanna join a quit group.
September 17 at about 11PM, I was trying to stick the damn patch back on after sweating it off and thought damn, how fucking pathetic do I look, trying to stick on this piece of plastic cause I wanted to get a "fix."
If you got the drive and motivation, thats all that matters. And support from other BAQs helps too.
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I know he probably won't be back.. I'm more spending the energy to write this for myself, and perhaps any other lookers..
My job sponsors nicotine replacement too. Just because people aren't as successful cold turkey, doesn't mean its okay. Nicotine replacement, is for babies and for wimps. I say this because I used it.. I used the until my Day 1 on this site where I ripped it off. I used it for 2 days and thought damn, I wanna join the guys at KTC. I wanna join a quit group.
September 17 at about 11PM, I was trying to stick the damn patch back on after sweating it off and thought damn, how fucking pathetic do I look, trying to stick on this piece of plastic cause I wanted to get a "fix."
If you got the drive and motivation, thats all that matters. And support from other BAQs helps too.
e=mc^2 is spot on. Furthermore, think of the term "nicotine replacement." Nicotine replacement? NICOTINE replacement?! Nicotine is not a substance that needs "replaced" to begin with! We're not talking about testosterone or estrogen or some sort of hormone or mineral some people end up being deficient in. We're talking about an addictive drug that not only doesn't need replenished, but needs to be avoided at all costs.
If you want to replace nicotine, replace it with posting roll and integrity. Works great.
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I know he probably won't be back.. I'm more spending the energy to write this for myself, and perhaps any other lookers..
My job sponsors nicotine replacement too. Just because people aren't as successful cold turkey, doesn't mean its okay. Nicotine replacement, is for babies and for wimps. I say this because I used it.. I used the until my Day 1 on this site where I ripped it off. I used it for 2 days and thought damn, I wanna join the guys at KTC. I wanna join a quit group.
September 17 at about 11PM, I was trying to stick the damn patch back on after sweating it off and thought damn, how fucking pathetic do I look, trying to stick on this piece of plastic cause I wanted to get a "fix."
If you got the drive and motivation, thats all that matters. And support from other BAQs helps too.
e=mc^2 is spot on. Furthermore, think of the term "nicotine replacement." Nicotine replacement? NICOTINE replacement?! Nicotine is not a substance that needs "replaced" to begin with! We're not talking about testosterone or estrogen or some sort of hormone or mineral some people end up being deficient in. We're talking about an addictive drug that not only doesn't need replenished, but needs to be avoided at all costs.
If you want to replace nicotine, replace it with posting roll and integrity. Works great.
This and this above!!!!!
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I know he probably won't be back.. I'm more spending the energy to write this for myself, and perhaps any other lookers..
My job sponsors nicotine replacement too. Just because people aren't as successful cold turkey, doesn't mean its okay. Nicotine replacement, is for babies and for wimps. I say this because I used it.. I used the until my Day 1 on this site where I ripped it off. I used it for 2 days and thought damn, I wanna join the guys at KTC. I wanna join a quit group.
September 17 at about 11PM, I was trying to stick the damn patch back on after sweating it off and thought damn, how fucking pathetic do I look, trying to stick on this piece of plastic cause I wanted to get a "fix."
If you got the drive and motivation, thats all that matters. And support from other BAQs helps too.
e=mc^2 is spot on. Furthermore, think of the term "nicotine replacement." Nicotine replacement? NICOTINE replacement?! Nicotine is not a substance that needs "replaced" to begin with! We're not talking about testosterone or estrogen or some sort of hormone or mineral some people end up being deficient in. We're talking about an addictive drug that not only doesn't need replenished, but needs to be avoided at all costs.
If you want to replace nicotine, replace it with posting roll and integrity. Works great.
This and this above!!!!!
It is October 11th, 10 days after Pilgrim's revised quit date. He has not been here in over two weeks.
How is that planned quit working? I wonder....
Don't plan to quit - quit for real.
Let's see if Pilgrim shows up here on November 1st, the original quit date.
I love this thread.
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Me too Stranger, I find myself back here all the time. I think you said it best, it reminds me of the DIP RATIONALE thinking I used to do.
Everything was planned around making sure I could dip, get a few minutes to 'relax' i used to call it. My wife called it my 'me time'.
Dip while driving out of town. Stop for a few sales calls. Dip on way to hotel. Have a pre-dinner one in hotel room. Go torestaurant and eat dinner, have one after dinner, and a late night one before bed. Wake up and start it over.
Funny I though I was hiding dipping from the wife and 17 year old son all these years.... WRONG!!!!!!!
Just another example of the nic mind saying " you get your dip, they dont know about it, and before you spit this one out, think about how you are gonna plan the next one"
Unreal.
I sure hope Pilgrim comes back and quits
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What happens to a quit deferred?
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Tis a shame, but an example for 2 reasons.
1 - of the power of the poison and the addiction to just keep tugging at a person and keep them bound, which is why cold turkey is the way that is proven to just end it all and quit.
2 - of the power that our word can be. I saw stated a Nov 1, then a move up to Oct 1. And he has not been back yet, so I guess he did not adhere to his word. If only he did, that would have been a start.
Learn each and every day, as this can help. Use this in one's own arsenal as we all continue to be free and clean
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How 'bout we let this thread fade away already... no more time needs to be wasted on it. Dude hasn't been on since Sep 26.
Sad.
Movin' on...
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How 'bout we let this thread fade away already... no more time needs to be wasted on it. Dude hasn't been on since Sep 26.
Sad.
Movin' on...
He's still got another full two weeks before his "plan" fully kicks in. Cut the guy some slack.
Pilgrim: when and if you ever decide to accept reality and face it head on, just know that your only reasonable shot at staying quit for the long haul is if you go cold turkey. I know you can do it, because I did it and so did thousands of other guys here in the exact same boat as you. There are no tricks or shortcuts for tackling this addiction. There is only one way, and there is no way out but through.
Nut up.
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Okay. This is the last time I say anything here. I promise. I only bump this thread for new quitters, or those "planning" to quit to see where that "plan" actually leads since we are in fact on November 1st now. This thread didn't do any good for the one who created it, but maybe it can do some good for someone else. Here's the summary for those who don't want to read the entire exciting saga...
1.) Pilgrim, the person who started this intro page, came here planning to quit over a month from the day he showed up: November 1st.
2.) After some encouragement, he bumped his "planned" quit day to October 1st. (Bonus trivia question: Q.) What's the difference between a planned quit day that's 5 years away, and one that's 5 minutes away? A.) Nothing. You're not quit until you're quit.) Anyway, as you might imagine, he didn't show up on October 1st.
3.) I decided to check here today just on the Hail Mary chance that our man Pilgrim would be here and posting. Not so. In fact, he hasn't even logged in since the 26th of September. I wonder if he even remembers coming here. As of my posting this, I *guess* he technically has 7 hours left before it's the 2nd...but come on. 'no'
The moral of the story: Quitting does not require "planning" any more than taking a leak does. You lift the lid, you put in the nasty stuff, and you pull the handle.
If you're on this site and want to quit, then quit! Now is the best time.
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I'm guessing that Pilgrim had a lip full of grizzly most of the day yesterday. Hell, it was his birthday, why not have fun!
I'm sure that he will quit on New Year's Day for sure.... :P
What I really like about this thread is Bean's response within 20 minutes of Pilgrim posting his plan. The plan was doomed to fail and it did.
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You people are quick to judge and quick to say you have a person all figured out and not giving the benefit of the doubt.....you don't know shit but so you know my status, i have been quit off of all tobacco and quit off of all nicotine products for 3 and a half weeks no thanks to you all......so fuck you very much; i'll support my own ass from here on!
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By all means, please go and 'stop' on your own...again. I think it was you that said that after 20 years you "gave into dip one day"...then stopped using nicotine lozenges...then started right up finger-banging the can, AGAIN.
Yep, sounds like you got this all figured out. So, if that is in deed the case, and we have no clue what we're talking about, then be my guest. Go stop using nicotine for whatever period of time. As far as I can tell, you've never actually quit and I'll be damn happy to go fuck myself (per your request) because I certainly don't want to do it your way. Especially with that awesome track record you have.
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You people are quick to judge and quick to say you have a person all figured out and not giving the benefit of the doubt.....you don't know shit but so you know my status, i have been quit off of all tobacco and quit off of all nicotine products for 3 and a half weeks no thanks to you all......so fuck you very much; i'll support my own ass from here on!
So since it isn't 4 weeks, then I guess that planned quit date of November 1 didn't quite work out like you thought, which is pretty much what everybody was saying to begin with. I don't see how you came out on top on this argument? Glad you're not using right now, but all I can say is good luck. I for one know for certain that without this place I'd still be using. If you don't need it, good for you. No need to rain on everybody else's parade with how big your balls are.
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You people are quick to judge and quick to say you have a person all figured out and not giving the benefit of the doubt.....you don't know shit but so you know my status, i have been quit off of all tobacco and quit off of all nicotine products for 3 and a half weeks no thanks to you all......so fuck you very much; i'll support my own ass from here on!
So since it isn't 4 weeks, then I guess that planned quit date of November 1 didn't quite work out like you thought, which is pretty much what everybody was saying to begin with. I don't see how you came out on top on this argument? Glad you're not using right now, but all I can say is good luck. I for one know for certain that without this place I'd still be using. If you don't need it, good for you. No need to rain on everybody else's parade with how big your balls are.
Dude post Roll or piss off! The odds of you making it by yourself are slim to none! What did you come in here bragging on your 3.5 week's? You wanna show how big your balls are, impress us all post Roll and make a promise everyday! Nobody was quick to judge you just didn't bring your ass back when you said you was. Obviously you were needing a little something or you would have never showed up here today. Oh if you're trying to hurt feelings here I would say not gonna happen!
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You people are quick to judge and quick to say you have a person all figured out and not giving the benefit of the doubt.....you don't know shit but so you know my status, i have been quit off of all tobacco and quit off of all nicotine products for 3 and a half weeks no thanks to you all......so fuck you very much; i'll support my own ass from here on!
So since it isn't 4 weeks, then I guess that planned quit date of November 1 didn't quite work out like you thought, which is pretty much what everybody was saying to begin with. I don't see how you came out on top on this argument? Glad you're not using right now, but all I can say is good luck. I for one know for certain that without this place I'd still be using. If you don't need it, good for you. No need to rain on everybody else's parade with how big your balls are.
Dude post Roll or piss off! The odds of you making it by yourself are slim to none! What did you come in here bragging on your 3.5 week's? You wanna show how big your balls are, impress us all post Roll and make a promise everyday! Nobody was quick to judge you just didn't bring your ass back when you said you was. Obviously you were needing a little something or you would have never showed up here today. Oh if you're trying to hurt feelings here I would say not gonna happen!
Congratulations on 3.5 weeks quit. Good luck doing it your way.
Thanks for dropping by to sprinkle some of your breathtaking quit knowledge on us while building up the brotherhood and adding to your extensive accountability. Sarcasm
This place is about winning together. This place isn't about being a fuckwipe on your own. you had a lot of bad asses show up to try and help and your response is to tell everyone to fuck off? Man if I were an admin I'd ban your ass. You are like quit Isis in my book. Toxic as hell to the process.
Brotherhood + Accountability = Success