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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: Prohunter on September 19, 2016, 01:02:00 PM
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I was not enjoying it the way I used to, it was starting to bother me a bit...constantly needing to have a pinch in. The quit was not "planned" really, I ordered some smokey mountain from amazon and it arrived on 9/14 at around noon. I spit out my Cope and through it away the rest and started with the fake stuff. Been nic free since, I have "quit" before, 3-4 days but went back to it thinking I was victorious cause I quit for 3-4 days...lol.
Wow was I wrong, this is day 6, longest I have went without it in 25 years, cold sweats, hot flashes, confusion and fog, irritated with everything, nervous, jittery...etc.
'Finger' Cope Long Cut
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Welcome.
It looks like you tried to post roll in the December group? Go to the Welcome Center (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/55560/) and learn how to post roll (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1003072/1/#new). Posting roll is the backbone to the site, and is your ticket to a boatload of support.
I used for about 25 years myself. I've been calling it 24 1/2 years, but it probably rounds to 25 rather than 24. Splitting hairs.
Anyway, it will suck before it gets better. But, better is better than you can imagine right now.
Just refuse to cave. Reach out to others. Check your PM box in the upper right of your screen for a message from me.
But, when it comes down to it, there is no magic. Post your promise to not use nicotine in any form by posting roll. Keep your word. Refuse to cave. Be stronger than the can. Reach out for help when you need to.
Proud to quit with you.
I see you figured out Roll. Congrats.
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I think I just posted roll, trying to figure it all out in a fog is harder than I thought.
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I think I just posted roll, trying to figure it all out in a fog is harder than I thought.
The only way to mess up roll is to not be on it...
Welcome to freedom, see you each day!
Spuds
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Wow, when does the cold sweats start to go away... Need better deodorant perhaps?
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Wow, when does the cold sweats start to go away... Need better deodorant perhaps?
Each person's a bit different, but for the first five days I didn't sleep worth a damn. Woke up every night in a soaked T-shirt and cold sweat. But it DOES get better. Just keep plugging away at it one day at a time. Wake-up, Piss, Post Roll, honor that post, and repeat. Simple. Not easy. But simple. Quit with you today.
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Wow, when does the cold sweats start to go away... Need better deodorant perhaps?
I thought I was going through manopause for at least a month. It does get better though, always remember, this too shall pass. IQWYT!!
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Lots of triggers today!
Went and sighted in bows and rifles today, usually a big dip is in order. Did not cave.
On the way back, I realized I'm almost out of smokey mountain...freaked out.
As I'm going in the front door of local mart, it hits me that I have to be right in the belly of the beast. Cuz the smokey mountain is in the same spot as ol' cope long cut. Freaked out.
Did not cave.
Small victories throughout the day is all I'm asking for.
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Lots of triggers today!
Went and sighted in bows and rifles today, usually a big dip is in order. Did not cave.
On the way back, I realized I'm almost out of smokey mountain...freaked out.
As I'm going in the front door of local mart, it hits me that I have to be right in the belly of the beast. Cuz the smokey mountain is in the same spot as ol' cope long cut. Freaked out.
Did not cave.
Small victories throughout the day is all I'm asking for.
8 days in and now you're starting to see the little victories that you chalk up along the way as you tally another victorious day next to your name. This is no small feat and I, for one, am damn happy for you. Keep logging all of the shit you're working through right now - a.k.a. "the suck". I promise you it will get better and I also promise you that there will be a point you can look back at that "suck" and appreciate it for what it is. Its an experience that you never want to go through again - and all the reason you'll never want to go back to the can.
There's one catch to all that promising...you have to post roll. Every freakin' day; because your life depends on it. If you post roll, and hold true to your word - quitting will be the best thing that ever happened to you. You can take that to the bank.
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Day 15 for me today, really am amazed that it's been 2 weeks without a dip. I wanted to share a quick story, Friday afternoon we had a weekend planned in Vail Colorado, this was a 6 hour drive through really bad traffic and then snow in the mountains .. Lots of stress and boy did I want to stop and get a stress reliever dip! I stayed strong with help from this site.
Saturday for the most part was good, but at dinner Saturday night a guy sat close to me and he was strong of cope, I could smell it like I was a bloodhound! We started visiting and after introductions I came out and asked him if he dips, without hesitation he answered yes and pulled out his can and placed it on my leg... He believed I was asking to bum a chew, anyway at first I panicked a bit, but honestly it was very easy to give it right back to him and tell him I was in quit mode, I never ever thought this would be me writing this 15 day success story, there is still a long way to go but all of you have inspired, motivated and kept me a man of my word.
I am quit, special thanks to Bob and fish Florida for there help
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Day 15 for me today, really am amazed that it's been 2 weeks without a dip. I wanted to share a quick story, Friday afternoon we had a weekend planned in Vail Colorado, this was a 6 hour drive through really bad traffic and then snow in the mountains .. Lots of stress and boy did I want to stop and get a stress reliever dip! I stayed strong with help from this site.
Saturday for the most part was good, but at dinner Saturday night a guy sat close to me and he was strong of cope, I could smell it like I was a bloodhound! We started visiting and after introductions I came out and asked him if he dips, without hesitation he answered yes and pulled out his can and placed it on my leg... He believed I was asking to bum a chew, anyway at first I panicked a bit, but honestly it was very easy to give it right back to him and tell him I was in quit mode, I never ever thought this would be me writing this 15 day success story, there is still a long way to go but all of you have inspired, motivated and kept me a man of my word.
I am quit, special thanks to Bob and fish Florida for there help
Good win! Be ready the Nic bitch is sneaky and will always be lurking..
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Day 15 for me today, really am amazed that it's been 2 weeks without a dip. I wanted to share a quick story, Friday afternoon we had a weekend planned in Vail Colorado, this was a 6 hour drive through really bad traffic and then snow in the mountains .. Lots of stress and boy did I want to stop and get a stress reliever dip! I stayed strong with help from this site.
Saturday for the most part was good, but at dinner Saturday night a guy sat close to me and he was strong of cope, I could smell it like I was a bloodhound! We started visiting and after introductions I came out and asked him if he dips, without hesitation he answered yes and pulled out his can and placed it on my leg... He believed I was asking to bum a chew, anyway at first I panicked a bit, but honestly it was very easy to give it right back to him and tell him I was in quit mode, I never ever thought this would be me writing this 15 day success story, there is still a long way to go but all of you have inspired, motivated and kept me a man of my word.
I am quit, special thanks to Bob and fish Florida for there help
Good win! Be ready the Nic bitch is sneaky and will always be lurking..
Another great victory Prohunter. Keep posting roll every damn day and keep your word. Just one day/one victory at a time. Way to recognize the small victories.
Be proud of those and let them be foremost in your quit. Power of positive thinking brother!!. Proud to quit with you today!
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3 weeks without a dip (woohooo), it don't seem that long but sure enough it is. I dipped for 25 years, for me, my quit was not premeditated or thought through, I just quit when I received the fake stuff in the mail and found you guys. After 3 weeks the fog has lessened and my thinking is much better, now I think about my new life, what I mean is that there are people, hobbies and career that I never knew without a dip in. My wife has never known me without a dip, my daughter has never known me without a dip, I am a fishing and hunting guide-my own business that I started 18 years ago, and yes always with a dip. This last week I went out on my first couple hunting trips and had great success, my wife shot a giant Antelope and I got one of my biggest Mulies ever, that always called for a celebratory dip and my old buddy, that was always with me, was absent.
So instead of caving, I reached out to a couple guys on here with pics and a little celebratory texting...it worked.
I suppose its hard to say goodbye to an old friend that was always there for you, and for 25 years it was part of me, part of who I was and even as ridiculous as it sounds, in my mind I was more of a rough, outdoors "man" for doing it.
I'm not a pussy, never have been, I could go through all the reasons I am not and give countless examples of why I'm not, but maybe, just maybe, I was just a little bit of a pussy if I needed a can of this catshit to reinforce to myself and everyone around me that I was a "man".
Sadly, as the fog has left me, what I think about is as being a outfitter and guide, all the kids that have possibly looked up to me as a role model, and 1 of the things that I may have passed to them is this filthy addiction. I was never a closet dipper, it was always splayed loud and proud for everyone to know about, you know its a "manly" thing... what an ass hole I was.
So I need to say goodbye to a few things:
"The Lucky Dip"-Some of you know this one, take a dip when you want your luck to change, I used this one a lot fishing.
"The Celebratory Dip"-Self explanatory.
"The Stress Dip"-Again, self explanatory.
I used these 3 a lot in my life as reasons to dip, it was calming, familiar and to many of my great clients, it was expected. They would ask if I have my "lucky dip" in if things are slow...lol.
I proved to myself this last week with a couple of great and really memorable hunts that I can do this without my old friend in a can, and all I really need is my family at home and my family at KTC.
Thank you all.
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So I am on day 50 today, been a hard road to get here but nonetheless I am here nic free for 1200 hrs. A lot has happened since my last post, a couple more long road trips that will test any quitters resolve, drama from just being alive and of course many good things...Funny thing about dipping is that it didn't matter, good or bad thing, I wanted to take a dip to drown the bad or celebrate the good.
On one of those road trips I spent time with my niece, she has been my hunting buddy since she was 11, now she's 20 and getting ready to go on her first hunting trip without me :'( . I am very sad, selfish sad, but still proud of her and wish her well, she will be back at my side I'm sure, I have a lot of big animals out here and I think she thinks its like that everywhere...lol
Anyway, since she was about 14 she was chewing, and it just kills me, literally, kills me. I am so sad that she watched me all those years filling my face with that shit, now she is addicted to it as well. Of course when I talk to her about quitting she laughs, jokes and just plain don't want to quit....I know, she has to want it. I pray daily that day is coming soon. My wife says its not my fault, there were other influences in her life, but in my heart I know that I had a hand in her addiction.
Last night, the night before my 50, I was getting ready to make a delicious Antelope tenderloin dinner, as I was digging around in the freezer what do you think I found...A brand new shiny can of Cope Long Cut. Since my quit I have not even held a can of dip, the fake yes, but not the real.
I'm telling you, it F'ed me up real bad, I stood there looking at the can in the freezer till the freezer started beeping at me to close the door, that's what brought me out of my trance. I quickly shut the door, and started pacing the floor, I was the only one home at this point, after a few minutes I thought OK, I can handle this, I will open it and flush It. Not, I picked it up and just holding it felt good, the paper body and the metal top..ooh yeah, I then broke the seal with my thumbnail completely circling the can, and I thought boy it would be good to open it and smell it, but I just couldn't do it. I threw it back in the freezer and texted for some support, luckily I got it quick and the texts went back and forth long enough that finally the wife got home, when she walked in she knew something was wrong with me, I told her about the demon hiding in the freezer and she quickly grabbed it out and walked it outside and dumped it.
I was saved by my wife and by people I have never met in person from KTC. If I wouldn't have had them I am sure I would have caved.
I have been fairly cocky with my quit, overall it has not been torturous and for that I'm thankful, but after last night I realize that I have a lot of work to do and my resolve to my brothers and sisters at KTC must stay strong.
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So I am on day 50 today, been a hard road to get here but nonetheless I am here nic free for 1200 hrs. A lot has happened since my last post, a couple more long road trips that will test any quitters resolve, drama from just being alive and of course many good things...Funny thing about dipping is that it didn't matter, good or bad thing, I wanted to take a dip to drown the bad or celebrate the good.
On one of those road trips I spent time with my niece, she has been my hunting buddy since she was 11, now she's 20 and getting ready to go on her first hunting trip without me :'( . I am very sad, selfish sad, but still proud of her and wish her well, she will be back at my side I'm sure, I have a lot of big animals out here and I think she thinks its like that everywhere...lol
Anyway, since she was about 14 she was chewing, and it just kills me, literally, kills me. I am so sad that she watched me all those years filling my face with that shit, now she is addicted to it as well. Of course when I talk to her about quitting she laughs, jokes and just plain don't want to quit....I know, she has to want it. I pray daily that day is coming soon. My wife says its not my fault, there were other influences in her life, but in my heart I know that I had a hand in her addiction.
Last night, the night before my 50, I was getting ready to make a delicious Antelope tenderloin dinner, as I was digging around in the freezer what do you think I found...A brand new shiny can of Cope Long Cut. Since my quit I have not even held a can of dip, the fake yes, but not the real.
I'm telling you, it F'ed me up real bad, I stood there looking at the can in the freezer till the freezer started beeping at me to close the door, that's what brought me out of my trance. I quickly shut the door, and started pacing the floor, I was the only one home at this point, after a few minutes I thought OK, I can handle this, I will open it and flush It. Not, I picked it up and just holding it felt good, the paper body and the metal top..ooh yeah, I then broke the seal with my thumbnail completely circling the can, and I thought boy it would be good to open it and smell it, but I just couldn't do it. I threw it back in the freezer and texted for some support, luckily I got it quick and the texts went back and forth long enough that finally the wife got home, when she walked in she knew something was wrong with me, I told her about the demon hiding in the freezer and she quickly grabbed it out and walked it outside and dumped it.
I was saved by my wife and by people I have never met in person from KTC. If I wouldn't have had them I am sure I would have caved.
I have been fairly cocky with my quit, overall it has not been torturous and for that I'm thankful, but after last night I realize that I have a lot of work to do and my resolve to my brothers and sisters at KTC must stay strong.
I'm a little late on the congrats, but Congrats on the quit.
I'm 446 day in and thinks about taking a dip every day and this time of year is ever harder with hunting like yourself.
I was a 30+ year dipper and if I had not found this site, I would still be putting that poison in my mouth and enjoying every minute of it.
It really hit me hard after I quit, anxiety, depression and depersonalization, that really screwed up, thought I was going crazy.
If you ever need to chat, HMU, I'll be more than happy to talk with you.
Cope30 - 446
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25 year user here as well. 1 1/2 to 2 cans a day for God knows how long. I'm on day 453 and like Cope30 said, I have to agree with him that I do think about it as well. I look at it like this, we used for so long we didn't think about not having it, hell we thought then that we had to have a can nearby. So it's just etched in our brains for right now. Although I have thoughts of the evil weed, the thought goes through my brain rather quickly. Thankfully it's just a thought and not an action. Hang in there, you are doing a great job. Proud to quit with you.
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Congrats on hitting the Hall Prohunter! The first of many milestones!
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Happy HOF, Pro! Proud of you, and keep quitting on like the bad ass you are.
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Congrats on Hall of Fame! Keep adding those days.
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Congrats Pro!
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Congrats Pro!
Pro, so proud to quit with you today.
Celebrate Your 100 days and repeat it!
Badassery!!
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Congrats Pro!
Pro, so proud to quit with you today.
Celebrate Your 100 days and repeat it!
Badassery!!
Nice work Pro. Congrats on HOF
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Been a long time since I posted anything here, but I felt like I needed to say this here as well as in my quit group.
Its been a real dogshit 7 days for our family as my wife dad passed away quite unexpectedly a week ago yesterday, sadly he was found by one of his daughters and it appeared he was trying to make himself a bite to eat when it happened. My wife was extremely close to him as was I, we shared a lot of interests and hobbies and he was a man without means but always found a way to share what he had with us. This was a challenge to say the least for me to stay nic free, I'm not going to lie and tell you it was, I had to drive 11 hours roundtrip 3 times over the last week, which meant stopping at gas stations late at night, early in the morning by myself most of the time as I had to leave my wife at his place and take care of things back home, pick up memorabilia for the funeral, etc. Add to that the HONOR of being a conductor, and of course tax season-some of you know, most don't that I am also a accountant/tax guy-this is my own practice, anyway all this has made this last week almost unbearable and has made me a poster-ghoster here at KTC, for that I am sorry to all of you. At the same time I need to thank you all for being here, being held accountable has saved my quit, when my mind wandered to the can, I immediately thought about you guys and the disappointment I would suffer from the selfish act of taking a dip. Even though I was not here much over the last week, KTC and December 16 was on my mind a lot, why, because I was looking death in the face this last week, my father in law was a hard nic user, smoking and dipping in his life and he died using nicotine, doctors told the stubborn SOB to quit, but he didn't have the gut for it, he told me so, but, he was out here in visiting in November over Thanksgiving, one night we were just sitting around watching TV and I grabbed my phone and got onto KTC chat, there was a someone that was needing help to quit and I spent about a hour with this person showing him how to post roll, etc. My FIL asked me what the hell I was doing on my god damn phone for so long, so I explained to him how KTC worked, brotherhood-accountability=success, paying it forward to new hopeful quitters and so on, the response that I got from him was not what I expected, he is a old school guy, gruff, mean, brutally honest and a military man. He looked at me and said that is one of the most honorable things he has seen, helping a total stranger literally save his own life and in a way similar to his military days when he may have not known another soldier on the field, never met him but as a soldier he would have taken a bullet for him and/or not left him behind. He was proud that night of my quit and he vocalized to me that he wished he would have found a brotherhood like this, he said it jokingly, but I know deep down he was being honest and knew for him perhaps, it was to late.
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Been a long time since I posted anything here, but I felt like I needed to say this here as well as in my quit group.
Its been a real dogshit 7 days for our family as my wife dad passed away quite unexpectedly a week ago yesterday, sadly he was found by one of his daughters and it appeared he was trying to make himself a bite to eat when it happened. My wife was extremely close to him as was I, we shared a lot of interests and hobbies and he was a man without means but always found a way to share what he had with us. This was a challenge to say the least for me to stay nic free, I'm not going to lie and tell you it was, I had to drive 11 hours roundtrip 3 times over the last week, which meant stopping at gas stations late at night, early in the morning by myself most of the time as I had to leave my wife at his place and take care of things back home, pick up memorabilia for the funeral, etc. Add to that the HONOR of being a conductor, and of course tax season-some of you know, most don't that I am also a accountant/tax guy-this is my own practice, anyway all this has made this last week almost unbearable and has made me a poster-ghoster here at KTC, for that I am sorry to all of you. At the same time I need to thank you all for being here, being held accountable has saved my quit, when my mind wandered to the can, I immediately thought about you guys and the disappointment I would suffer from the selfish act of taking a dip. Even though I was not here much over the last week, KTC and December 16 was on my mind a lot, why, because I was looking death in the face this last week, my father in law was a hard nic user, smoking and dipping in his life and he died using nicotine, doctors told the stubborn SOB to quit, but he didn't have the gut for it, he told me so, but, he was out here in visiting in November over Thanksgiving, one night we were just sitting around watching TV and I grabbed my phone and got onto KTC chat, there was a someone that was needing help to quit and I spent about a hour with this person showing him how to post roll, etc. My FIL asked me what the hell I was doing on my god damn phone for so long, so I explained to him how KTC worked, brotherhood-accountability=success, paying it forward to new hopeful quitters and so on, the response that I got from him was not what I expected, he is a old school guy, gruff, mean, brutally honest and a military man. He looked at me and said that is one of the most honorable things he has seen, helping a total stranger literally save his own life and in a way similar to his military days when he may have not known another soldier on the field, never met him but as a soldier he would have taken a bullet for him and/or not left him behind. He was proud that night of my quit and he vocalized to me that he wished he would have found a brotherhood like this, he said it jokingly, but I know deep down he was being honest and knew for him perhaps, it was to late.
Sorry for your loss. :(
This place is like being in a foxhole sometimes and helping strangers often helps our quit. Keep pushing forward brother!
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Been a long time since I posted anything here, but I felt like I needed to say this here as well as in my quit group.
Its been a real dogshit 7 days for our family as my wife dad passed away quite unexpectedly a week ago yesterday, sadly he was found by one of his daughters and it appeared he was trying to make himself a bite to eat when it happened. My wife was extremely close to him as was I, we shared a lot of interests and hobbies and he was a man without means but always found a way to share what he had with us. This was a challenge to say the least for me to stay nic free, I'm not going to lie and tell you it was, I had to drive 11 hours roundtrip 3 times over the last week, which meant stopping at gas stations late at night, early in the morning by myself most of the time as I had to leave my wife at his place and take care of things back home, pick up memorabilia for the funeral, etc. Add to that the HONOR of being a conductor, and of course tax season-some of you know, most don't that I am also a accountant/tax guy-this is my own practice, anyway all this has made this last week almost unbearable and has made me a poster-ghoster here at KTC, for that I am sorry to all of you. At the same time I need to thank you all for being here, being held accountable has saved my quit, when my mind wandered to the can, I immediately thought about you guys and the disappointment I would suffer from the selfish act of taking a dip. Even though I was not here much over the last week, KTC and December 16 was on my mind a lot, why, because I was looking death in the face this last week, my father in law was a hard nic user, smoking and dipping in his life and he died using nicotine, doctors told the stubborn SOB to quit, but he didn't have the gut for it, he told me so, but, he was out here in visiting in November over Thanksgiving, one night we were just sitting around watching TV and I grabbed my phone and got onto KTC chat, there was a someone that was needing help to quit and I spent about a hour with this person showing him how to post roll, etc. My FIL asked me what the hell I was doing on my god damn phone for so long, so I explained to him how KTC worked, brotherhood-accountability=success, paying it forward to new hopeful quitters and so on, the response that I got from him was not what I expected, he is a old school guy, gruff, mean, brutally honest and a military man. He looked at me and said that is one of the most honorable things he has seen, helping a total stranger literally save his own life and in a way similar to his military days when he may have not known another soldier on the field, never met him but as a soldier he would have taken a bullet for him and/or not left him behind. He was proud that night of my quit and he vocalized to me that he wished he would have found a brotherhood like this, he said it jokingly, but I know deep down he was being honest and knew for him perhaps, it was to late.
I'm sorry for your lost Pro! I'm also sorry for not seeing this earlier or reaching out. While another 5 days has gone by, please let me know if there is anything I can do to help you. Sincerely!
Proud to be quit with you!
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IÂ’m from December 16Â’ quit group, my last dip was on September 14th, 2016, I had been addicted for over 25 years, I was not a ninja dipper and I always had a dip in from the time I woke up to the time I went to bed-this is not a special story here at KTC, this is a story that has been played out time and time again. I am writing this after being involved with KTC for 5 months, in those 5 months there has been pain, suffering, joy and happiness, my family has suffered a tragic loss by a death in the family, I have had financial gains and loss and more triggers than I could possibly count-not a special story here as this story is played out time and time again.
When I darkened the doors of KTC, I had the “want” and the “need”, just didn’t know the “how”, that’s the reason I came here, KTC didn’t come looking for me. Apparently I am kind of old school because when I ask someone for help, I don’t piss and moan if I think their approach is wrong, I don’t pretend I know a better way and I damn sure don’t bite the hands that help me, why come here looking for help if you feel the need to do any of those things.
The day I joined it was decided that I would “follow” the examples and the rules of the ones that came before me, why not, I came here and not the other way around. The way of posting roll to me was hard, I thought there’s got to be a better way, I fought through the fog and dizziness…made some mistakes but I figured it out, now its just a part of me and it made me a better man, like taking that dip first thing in the morning. Then there was the brutality of the site, I thought man these guys are tough on these poor quitters that missed roll or god help them…caved. There were times I thought maybe I don’t belong here, these guys are being assholes for no reason, I mean here is this poor quitter that missed a few days but came back, so why are they being so hard on him…Now that I have been here for 5 months, I get it. So to get back to my journey, I jumped into KTC with both feet, followed the rules, drank the Kool-Aid, whatever you want to call it that’s what I did. It was reasoned that many addicts had been here before me and their journey was a success, so if I followed the plan laid out before me, I to could be free from nicotine. So I did exactly that, from WUPP, to supporting other quitters in other groups, exchanged digits, chat room talk-the whole 9. The amazing thing about all this is that never, not one time ever did I have a “vet” jump in the middle of my shit, why, because I was doing the activities that were prescribed by the ones that come before me, the activities that have saved many addicts before me and will save many more after me. Some rookie quits always like to demonize the vets in here and not just to themselves, they want to make it public and brutal, they are unsuccessful for the most part as these same vets will give the shirts off their back for a quitter that follows the guidelines and we all know it. I am getting to be one of those vets, I have watched the same thing happen over and over again for December, January, February, March, April and May, some new quitter come in and thinks they are special, thinks they have a better way for this or that, thinks their voice should be heard above everyone else, thinks they should be held accountable at their convenience, thinks brotherhood only applies when they need it, thinks that they are in this just for themselves, thinks using KTC as they see fit is acceptable. Know this, understand this and accept this truth, when you found KTC and joined KTC, the only way to succeed here and beat your addiction is to follow the guidelines and the system, get involved with other quitters, be a support system for someone in need, be part of the solution and not another problem that none of us need in this fragile and difficult time, and for gods sake, don’t be one of those selfish and self important souls that constantly need to be hunted down to post roll, if are you that shallow that when others are texting, pm’ing or calling, you must think they have nothing better to do with their time than to chase you around-that’s ridiculous and shameful. We are all here fighting for our lives at some level, some have been quit for more days and some less, but make no mistake, we are all here for the same reason-quitting the addiction, and we do it one day at a time, every damn day. Understand and practice daily the recipe for success at KTC, Brotherhood+Accountability=Success, these are not just mere words, but words to live by-at KTC or in your everyday life.
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IÂ’m from December 16Â’ quit group, my last dip was on September 14th, 2016, I had been addicted for over 25 years, I was not a ninja dipper and I always had a dip in from the time I woke up to the time I went to bed-this is not a special story here at KTC, this is a story that has been played out time and time again. I am writing this after being involved with KTC for 5 months, in those 5 months there has been pain, suffering, joy and happiness, my family has suffered a tragic loss by a death in the family, I have had financial gains and loss and more triggers than I could possibly count-not a special story here as this story is played out time and time again.
When I darkened the doors of KTC, I had the “want” and the “need”, just didn’t know the “how”, that’s the reason I came here, KTC didn’t come looking for me. Apparently I am kind of old school because when I ask someone for help, I don’t piss and moan if I think their approach is wrong, I don’t pretend I know a better way and I damn sure don’t bite the hands that help me, why come here looking for help if you feel the need to do any of those things.
The day I joined it was decided that I would “follow” the examples and the rules of the ones that came before me, why not, I came here and not the other way around. The way of posting roll to me was hard, I thought there’s got to be a better way, I fought through the fog and dizziness…made some mistakes but I figured it out, now its just a part of me and it made me a better man, like taking that dip first thing in the morning. Then there was the brutality of the site, I thought man these guys are tough on these poor quitters that missed roll or god help them…caved. There were times I thought maybe I don’t belong here, these guys are being assholes for no reason, I mean here is this poor quitter that missed a few days but came back, so why are they being so hard on him…Now that I have been here for 5 months, I get it. So to get back to my journey, I jumped into KTC with both feet, followed the rules, drank the Kool-Aid, whatever you want to call it that’s what I did. It was reasoned that many addicts had been here before me and their journey was a success, so if I followed the plan laid out before me, I to could be free from nicotine. So I did exactly that, from WUPP, to supporting other quitters in other groups, exchanged digits, chat room talk-the whole 9. The amazing thing about all this is that never, not one time ever did I have a “vet” jump in the middle of my shit, why, because I was doing the activities that were prescribed by the ones that come before me, the activities that have saved many addicts before me and will save many more after me. Some rookie quits always like to demonize the vets in here and not just to themselves, they want to make it public and brutal, they are unsuccessful for the most part as these same vets will give the shirts off their back for a quitter that follows the guidelines and we all know it. I am getting to be one of those vets, I have watched the same thing happen over and over again for December, January, February, March, April and May, some new quitter come in and thinks they are special, thinks they have a better way for this or that, thinks their voice should be heard above everyone else, thinks they should be held accountable at their convenience, thinks brotherhood only applies when they need it, thinks that they are in this just for themselves, thinks using KTC as they see fit is acceptable. Know this, understand this and accept this truth, when you found KTC and joined KTC, the only way to succeed here and beat your addiction is to follow the guidelines and the system, get involved with other quitters, be a support system for someone in need, be part of the solution and not another problem that none of us need in this fragile and difficult time, and for gods sake, don’t be one of those selfish and self important souls that constantly need to be hunted down to post roll, if are you that shallow that when others are texting, pm’ing or calling, you must think they have nothing better to do with their time than to chase you around-that’s ridiculous and shameful. We are all here fighting for our lives at some level, some have been quit for more days and some less, but make no mistake, we are all here for the same reason-quitting the addiction, and we do it one day at a time, every damn day. Understand and practice daily the recipe for success at KTC, Brotherhood+Accountability=Success, these are not just mere words, but words to live by-at KTC or in your everyday life.
Well said!!!! 'clap'
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IÂ’m from December 16Â’ quit group, my last dip was on September 14th, 2016, I had been addicted for over 25 years, I was not a ninja dipper and I always had a dip in from the time I woke up to the time I went to bed-this is not a special story here at KTC, this is a story that has been played out time and time again. I am writing this after being involved with KTC for 5 months, in those 5 months there has been pain, suffering, joy and happiness, my family has suffered a tragic loss by a death in the family, I have had financial gains and loss and more triggers than I could possibly count-not a special story here as this story is played out time and time again.
When I darkened the doors of KTC, I had the “want” and the “need”, just didn’t know the “how”, that’s the reason I came here, KTC didn’t come looking for me. Apparently I am kind of old school because when I ask someone for help, I don’t piss and moan if I think their approach is wrong, I don’t pretend I know a better way and I damn sure don’t bite the hands that help me, why come here looking for help if you feel the need to do any of those things.
The day I joined it was decided that I would “follow” the examples and the rules of the ones that came before me, why not, I came here and not the other way around. The way of posting roll to me was hard, I thought there’s got to be a better way, I fought through the fog and dizziness…made some mistakes but I figured it out, now its just a part of me and it made me a better man, like taking that dip first thing in the morning. Then there was the brutality of the site, I thought man these guys are tough on these poor quitters that missed roll or god help them…caved. There were times I thought maybe I don’t belong here, these guys are being assholes for no reason, I mean here is this poor quitter that missed a few days but came back, so why are they being so hard on him…Now that I have been here for 5 months, I get it. So to get back to my journey, I jumped into KTC with both feet, followed the rules, drank the Kool-Aid, whatever you want to call it that’s what I did. It was reasoned that many addicts had been here before me and their journey was a success, so if I followed the plan laid out before me, I to could be free from nicotine. So I did exactly that, from WUPP, to supporting other quitters in other groups, exchanged digits, chat room talk-the whole 9. The amazing thing about all this is that never, not one time ever did I have a “vet” jump in the middle of my shit, why, because I was doing the activities that were prescribed by the ones that come before me, the activities that have saved many addicts before me and will save many more after me. Some rookie quits always like to demonize the vets in here and not just to themselves, they want to make it public and brutal, they are unsuccessful for the most part as these same vets will give the shirts off their back for a quitter that follows the guidelines and we all know it. I am getting to be one of those vets, I have watched the same thing happen over and over again for December, January, February, March, April and May, some new quitter come in and thinks they are special, thinks they have a better way for this or that, thinks their voice should be heard above everyone else, thinks they should be held accountable at their convenience, thinks brotherhood only applies when they need it, thinks that they are in this just for themselves, thinks using KTC as they see fit is acceptable. Know this, understand this and accept this truth, when you found KTC and joined KTC, the only way to succeed here and beat your addiction is to follow the guidelines and the system, get involved with other quitters, be a support system for someone in need, be part of the solution and not another problem that none of us need in this fragile and difficult time, and for gods sake, don’t be one of those selfish and self important souls that constantly need to be hunted down to post roll, if are you that shallow that when others are texting, pm’ing or calling, you must think they have nothing better to do with their time than to chase you around-that’s ridiculous and shameful. We are all here fighting for our lives at some level, some have been quit for more days and some less, but make no mistake, we are all here for the same reason-quitting the addiction, and we do it one day at a time, every damn day. Understand and practice daily the recipe for success at KTC, Brotherhood+Accountability=Success, these are not just mere words, but words to live by-at KTC or in your everyday life.
Well said!!!! 'clap'
Makes sense!!! Follow and mirror the actions of the ones who've gone before you and have been successful. ItÂ’s not asking you to "not ask a question" but to "not question" the process of KTC, it's proven.
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IÂ’m from December 16Â’ quit group, my last dip was on September 14th, 2016, I had been addicted for over 25 years, I was not a ninja dipper and I always had a dip in from the time I woke up to the time I went to bed-this is not a special story here at KTC, this is a story that has been played out time and time again. I am writing this after being involved with KTC for 5 months, in those 5 months there has been pain, suffering, joy and happiness, my family has suffered a tragic loss by a death in the family, I have had financial gains and loss and more triggers than I could possibly count-not a special story here as this story is played out time and time again.
When I darkened the doors of KTC, I had the “want” and the “need”, just didn’t know the “how”, that’s the reason I came here, KTC didn’t come looking for me. Apparently I am kind of old school because when I ask someone for help, I don’t piss and moan if I think their approach is wrong, I don’t pretend I know a better way and I damn sure don’t bite the hands that help me, why come here looking for help if you feel the need to do any of those things.
The day I joined it was decided that I would “follow” the examples and the rules of the ones that came before me, why not, I came here and not the other way around. The way of posting roll to me was hard, I thought there’s got to be a better way, I fought through the fog and dizziness…made some mistakes but I figured it out, now its just a part of me and it made me a better man, like taking that dip first thing in the morning. Then there was the brutality of the site, I thought man these guys are tough on these poor quitters that missed roll or god help them…caved. There were times I thought maybe I don’t belong here, these guys are being assholes for no reason, I mean here is this poor quitter that missed a few days but came back, so why are they being so hard on him…Now that I have been here for 5 months, I get it. So to get back to my journey, I jumped into KTC with both feet, followed the rules, drank the Kool-Aid, whatever you want to call it that’s what I did. It was reasoned that many addicts had been here before me and their journey was a success, so if I followed the plan laid out before me, I to could be free from nicotine. So I did exactly that, from WUPP, to supporting other quitters in other groups, exchanged digits, chat room talk-the whole 9. The amazing thing about all this is that never, not one time ever did I have a “vet” jump in the middle of my shit, why, because I was doing the activities that were prescribed by the ones that come before me, the activities that have saved many addicts before me and will save many more after me. Some rookie quits always like to demonize the vets in here and not just to themselves, they want to make it public and brutal, they are unsuccessful for the most part as these same vets will give the shirts off their back for a quitter that follows the guidelines and we all know it. I am getting to be one of those vets, I have watched the same thing happen over and over again for December, January, February, March, April and May, some new quitter come in and thinks they are special, thinks they have a better way for this or that, thinks their voice should be heard above everyone else, thinks they should be held accountable at their convenience, thinks brotherhood only applies when they need it, thinks that they are in this just for themselves, thinks using KTC as they see fit is acceptable. Know this, understand this and accept this truth, when you found KTC and joined KTC, the only way to succeed here and beat your addiction is to follow the guidelines and the system, get involved with other quitters, be a support system for someone in need, be part of the solution and not another problem that none of us need in this fragile and difficult time, and for gods sake, don’t be one of those selfish and self important souls that constantly need to be hunted down to post roll, if are you that shallow that when others are texting, pm’ing or calling, you must think they have nothing better to do with their time than to chase you around-that’s ridiculous and shameful. We are all here fighting for our lives at some level, some have been quit for more days and some less, but make no mistake, we are all here for the same reason-quitting the addiction, and we do it one day at a time, every damn day. Understand and practice daily the recipe for success at KTC, Brotherhood+Accountability=Success, these are not just mere words, but words to live by-at KTC or in your everyday life.
Well said!!!! 'clap'
Makes sense!!! Follow and mirror the actions of the ones who've gone before you and have been successful. ItÂ’s not asking you to "not ask a question" but to "not question" the process of KTC, it's proven.
This is awesome man! So many great thoughts posted in one place.
I am incredibly honored that you are one of our HOF Conductors and now member of the Cult.
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IÂ’m from December 16Â’ quit group, my last dip was on September 14th, 2016, I had been addicted for over 25 years, I was not a ninja dipper and I always had a dip in from the time I woke up to the time I went to bed-this is not a special story here at KTC, this is a story that has been played out time and time again. I am writing this after being involved with KTC for 5 months, in those 5 months there has been pain, suffering, joy and happiness, my family has suffered a tragic loss by a death in the family, I have had financial gains and loss and more triggers than I could possibly count-not a special story here as this story is played out time and time again.
When I darkened the doors of KTC, I had the “want” and the “need”, just didn’t know the “how”, that’s the reason I came here, KTC didn’t come looking for me. Apparently I am kind of old school because when I ask someone for help, I don’t piss and moan if I think their approach is wrong, I don’t pretend I know a better way and I damn sure don’t bite the hands that help me, why come here looking for help if you feel the need to do any of those things.
The day I joined it was decided that I would “follow” the examples and the rules of the ones that came before me, why not, I came here and not the other way around. The way of posting roll to me was hard, I thought there’s got to be a better way, I fought through the fog and dizziness…made some mistakes but I figured it out, now its just a part of me and it made me a better man, like taking that dip first thing in the morning. Then there was the brutality of the site, I thought man these guys are tough on these poor quitters that missed roll or god help them…caved. There were times I thought maybe I don’t belong here, these guys are being assholes for no reason, I mean here is this poor quitter that missed a few days but came back, so why are they being so hard on him…Now that I have been here for 5 months, I get it. So to get back to my journey, I jumped into KTC with both feet, followed the rules, drank the Kool-Aid, whatever you want to call it that’s what I did. It was reasoned that many addicts had been here before me and their journey was a success, so if I followed the plan laid out before me, I to could be free from nicotine. So I did exactly that, from WUPP, to supporting other quitters in other groups, exchanged digits, chat room talk-the whole 9. The amazing thing about all this is that never, not one time ever did I have a “vet” jump in the middle of my shit, why, because I was doing the activities that were prescribed by the ones that come before me, the activities that have saved many addicts before me and will save many more after me. Some rookie quits always like to demonize the vets in here and not just to themselves, they want to make it public and brutal, they are unsuccessful for the most part as these same vets will give the shirts off their back for a quitter that follows the guidelines and we all know it. I am getting to be one of those vets, I have watched the same thing happen over and over again for December, January, February, March, April and May, some new quitter come in and thinks they are special, thinks they have a better way for this or that, thinks their voice should be heard above everyone else, thinks they should be held accountable at their convenience, thinks brotherhood only applies when they need it, thinks that they are in this just for themselves, thinks using KTC as they see fit is acceptable. Know this, understand this and accept this truth, when you found KTC and joined KTC, the only way to succeed here and beat your addiction is to follow the guidelines and the system, get involved with other quitters, be a support system for someone in need, be part of the solution and not another problem that none of us need in this fragile and difficult time, and for gods sake, don’t be one of those selfish and self important souls that constantly need to be hunted down to post roll, if are you that shallow that when others are texting, pm’ing or calling, you must think they have nothing better to do with their time than to chase you around-that’s ridiculous and shameful. We are all here fighting for our lives at some level, some have been quit for more days and some less, but make no mistake, we are all here for the same reason-quitting the addiction, and we do it one day at a time, every damn day. Understand and practice daily the recipe for success at KTC, Brotherhood+Accountability=Success, these are not just mere words, but words to live by-at KTC or in your everyday life.
Well said!!!! 'clap'
Makes sense!!! Follow and mirror the actions of the ones who've gone before you and have been successful. ItÂ’s not asking you to "not ask a question" but to "not question" the process of KTC, it's proven.
This is awesome man! So many great thoughts posted in one place.
I am incredibly honored that you are one of our HOF Conductors and now member of the Cult.
Very well said!!! Honored for you to be one of our train conductors and honored to quit with you EDD!!
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Congrats on 300 PRO!!
Excellent quit going on brother!
Proud to quit with you today.
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Congrats on 300 PRO!!
Excellent quit going on brother!
Proud to quit with you today.
Thank you sweetheart!
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Pro...congrats on this 1 trip around the sun day.
Outstanding quitter and helper. Thanks for paying it forward here.
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4-0-0 for the Pro
Outstanding quitter. Thank you.
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4-0-0 for the Pro
Outstanding quitter. Thank you.
WTG Pro! 4th floor! congrats brother! keep climbing them floors.
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Pro...you are the real deal man! 5-0-0!
I'm so thankful to know you and also thankful that this place and the quitters get to benefit from your presence.
Legit, high quality character of a man and quitter.
Congrats on that 1/2 dangle!
Proud to quit with you today.
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Pro! 500 days!! Awesome work my friend
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Pro! 500 days!! Awesome work my friend
HALF DANGLE!! Careful where you show that off today...
Congrats brother!
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Going Up! congrats Pro!
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Thanks to all for your words today, they are both humbling and encouraging. Proud to be here with this KTC family.
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Quit on
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Happy 6th floor day PRO!!
'party2'
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Congrats on 700 PRO!