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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: mmcfreds on February 03, 2012, 11:14:00 PM
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I had my last dip at 11am this morning. It's now 11pm. I started tweaking around 3 and it's steadily gotten worse. Fortunately my gf supports my decision so she's helping me through the peak times. Yeah, this is only day 1. This sucks. :)
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I had my last dip at 11am this morning. It's now 11pm. I started tweaking around 3 and it's steadily gotten worse. Fortunately my gf supports my decision so she's helping me through the peak times. Yeah, this is only day 1. This sucks. :)
You came to the right spot. Go up to that salmon colored WELCOME CENTER on the black banner and check out what we do and why we do it. Head on over to may 2012 and post a badass day 1.
Be sure to check out our live chat as well. Always a good quitter there that will be willing to give you real time advice.
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Hey, I don't know fully what is coming next but I am closing in on 24 and it is not as bad as the first 6 hours were for me. Hope it smooths out and gets better soon for you. I tried "dipping" ginger root and it seems to help. Good luck, kick its ass!
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Your addiction is something all the vets here KNOW about. Your addiction is not special. That means they CAN prepare you for what is coming, and how your addicted brain will justify failure. The support here will get me through something my wife's support hasn't been able to get done (and she is all that and then some) -- 11 days nicotine free out of the last 25 years.
Read the mission and commit.
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Great. What now?
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I had my last dip at 11am this morning. It's now 11pm. I started tweaking around 3 and it's steadily gotten worse. Fortunately my gf supports my decision so she's helping me through the peak times. Yeah, this is only day 1. This sucks. :)
fred,
great choice to quit
Here is what successful quitters do:
Post roll every morning
Post roll again the next morning
don't stop posting roll
keep your word!
educate yourself by reading everything on this site
use the support on this site and have some off site support
NO NIC--EVER!
You can call me Cope, but I just call myself QUIT! Pm me if you need anything. I have 283 days of Quit Bliss :)
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21 hours now. After a really good night's sleep I'm feeling much better this morning. Time for an extra cup of coffee and some gum. I predict this will be much easier than quitting drinking and quitting cigarettes. I was only dipping for about a year. Either way, I still know the ODAAT rule and all those pain in the ass AA sayings... :)
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21 hours now. After a really good night's sleep I'm feeling much better this morning. Time for an extra cup of coffee and some gum. I predict this will be much easier than quitting drinking and quitting cigarettes. I was only dipping for about a year. Either way, I still know the ODAAT rule and all those pain in the ass AA sayings... :)
Easy there cupcake. One day at a time is not some 'pain in the ass AA saying.' You're gonna get slammed for saying shit like this.
What makes you think this is going to be easier than anything else? If quitting was easy, you wouldn't be here, fo' sho'.
I don't give a fuck if you only dipped for a year. You're an addict.
Put that under your hat for a while. Sit down this weekend, and read this place. Read everything. Then read some more.
We're here to help, but you have to get your head out of your ass first.
Welcome to the freak show.
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21 hours now. After a really good night's sleep I'm feeling much better this morning. Time for an extra cup of coffee and some gum. I predict this will be much easier than quitting drinking and quitting cigarettes. I was only dipping for about a year. Either way, I still know the ODAAT rule and all those pain in the ass AA sayings... :)
Easy there cupcake. One day at a time is not some 'pain in the ass AA saying.' You're gonna get slammed for saying shit like this.
What makes you think this is going to be easier than anything else? If quitting was easy, you wouldn't be here, fo' sho'.
I don't give a fuck if you only dipped for a year. You're an addict.
Put that under your hat for a while. Sit down this weekend, and read this place. Read everything. Then read some more.
We're here to help, but you have to get your head out of your ass first.
Welcome to the freak show.
I predict that you will rethink your predictions pretty quick...
But predictions don't matter to me. Your promise does.
Post Roll
Honor Your Promise
Repeat
It ain't easy, but it's simple.
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Easy there cupcake. One day at a time is not some 'pain in the ass AA saying.' You're gonna get slammed for saying shit like this.
What makes you think this is going to be easier than anything else? If quitting was easy, you wouldn't be here, fo' sho'.
I don't give a fuck if you only dipped for a year. You're an addict.
Put that under your hat for a while. Sit down this weekend, and read this place. Read everything. Then read some more.
We're here to help, but you have to get your head out of your ass first.
Welcome to the freak show.
Ok, clearly there are jerks in this forum just like anywhere else. You're the militant douche bag sitting in the corner at meetings and yelling at the newly clean kid for being confident (not cocky, confident). Nice. Why don't you pull YOUR head out of YOUR ass, smile, breathe, repeat. 'Finger'
Thanks for the "welcome to the freak show" comment. :D
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Easy there cupcake. One day at a time is not some 'pain in the ass AA saying.' You're gonna get slammed for saying shit like this.
What makes you think this is going to be easier than anything else? If quitting was easy, you wouldn't be here, fo' sho'.
I don't give a fuck if you only dipped for a year. You're an addict.
Put that under your hat for a while. Sit down this weekend, and read this place. Read everything. Then read some more.Â
We're here to help, but you have to get your head out of your ass first.
Welcome to the freak show.
Ok, clearly there are jerks in this forum just like anywhere else. You're the militant douche bag sitting in the corner at meetings and yelling at the newly clean kid for being confident (not cocky, confident). Nice. Why don't you pull YOUR head out of YOUR ass, smile, breathe, repeat. 'Finger'
Thanks for the "welcome to the freak show" comment. :D
Yeah.
Fuck you nolaq.
This boy is quit like a motherfucker. He's got this. We all just have to get out of his way and watch him go. He's so badass that he should be teaching and you should be listening.
(Carrying quite a bit of anger for something that is "so easy", aren't we? I give you 4 days top.)
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Humility fuckstick. You will learn humility from accepting that pain in ass accurate sayings.
You came looking for help. Trashing any framework that helps an addict get clean is ridiculous. Think about that.
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What a shame. People come in here thinking they know better than those who have been there and who are succeeding. What a damn shame.
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It's the generation I believe... Just some young punk with a chip on his shoulder... Probably just finished tagging the shitter stall at the local gas station. Shame indeed.
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You guys are hilarious.
1) I'm 42.
2) I've been sober since 9/22/96. Spent many, many years in AA (homegroup: Mililani Men's Stag in Mililani HI). Learned to both love and hate the 12 steps, as do most people who get sober. I tried yelling and cussing at the new kids, telling them "if you're not ready to prostrate yourself on the altar that is "quit" then go back out, drink (chew) some more and come back when you're really beaten. It doesn't work for the new kid guys, sometimes that kid only needs one more push back into the world before he kills himself or someone else. It only for the militant douche bag sitting in the corner who believes he is happiest when talking about quitting but secretly wonders why he never seems to enjoy life as much as everyone else.
3) I'm not slamming the methodology, just the first guy and then I was only returning the harsh talk that he gave me first (note the "thanks for the welcome" at the end) Get a sense of humor will ya?
Let's start again, shall we? Hey guys my name is Fred and I'm an alcoholic, drug addict, and nicotine addict (if you want to separate them). :)
Enjoy your day fellas.
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Sooo what your saying is that you haven't tagged a stall at the local gas station lately? 'tease'
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He also had time to log in to fight without roll call.
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3) I'm not slamming the methodology,  . . .
Yea, you are.
But I understand. There are other groups that follow a similar path that your took on your other addiction. Actually, I think it would be great if someone would post the links, if they have them handy. They may be a better fit for you. Its not for everybody. People are encouraged to study and read all they can before jumping in.
If you insinuate that by following the KTC methodology, that person is responsible for a suicide or murder, then yes you are slamming a methodology.
BTW, I think we may just have a differing opinion on how much control one person actually has on another.
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Sooo what your saying is that you haven't tagged a stall at the local gas station lately? 'tease'
LOL Yeah, I guess that's what I'm saying...
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have you posted roll call yet?
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Okay Fred. I'm taking a second swing at a welcome.
This place is awesome. This place will get you and me quit for at least another 24 hours. That's how we do it. One day at a time. I would read up on the pretty pink Welcome Center in the upper left. There you will get a good sense of how we do things here. One of the 'hows' is roll call. Read up on that. That's your pledge to not use for a day. That's how we do it. We post roll early. First thing to set the table right that you are quit today. Other than that, read read read. Plenty of good stuff in here. You can't imagine. Its a quitter's paradise and everyday we run a special on freedom!
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Okay Fred. I'm taking a second swing at a welcome.
Thanks, I appreciate it. I'm doing fine, the cravings for nicotine are just about gone and I'm forming the "habit of not dipping." My triggers are known to me (sitting at my desk, both at home and at work) and I have the full support of those at work and those at home.
While the concepts discussed on this site no doubt work for most they are unnecessary for me. I'm just not that addicted to it. If you could have seen me when I was detoxing from alcohol you would understand. Ever seen Leaving Las Vegas? That scene toward the end when Nicky is shaking so bad he can't get the bottle to his mouth? Yeah, it was a lot like that. Compared to that getting off dip is like killing a mosquito, that's why I sounded so cocky at first. Yes, time will tell if I get back on it but I'm pretty sure I'm done. I would much rather dip than drink anyway but if I can apply the concepts of AA to this then I'm almost guaranteed success.
I was directed to this site by another person who is quitting at the same time I am and I signed in to the forums just to chime in and gain some accountability. I'll leave you all alone now, have a nice day.
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Okay Fred. I'm taking a second swing at a welcome.
Thanks, I appreciate it. I'm doing fine, the cravings for nicotine are just about gone and I'm forming the "habit of not dipping." My triggers are known to me (sitting at my desk, both at home and at work) and I have the full support of those at work and those at home.
While the concepts discussed on this site no doubt work for most they are unnecessary for me. I'm just not that addicted to it. If you could have seen me when I was detoxing from alcohol you would understand. Ever seen Leaving Las Vegas? That scene toward the end when Nicky is shaking so bad he can't get the bottle to his mouth? Yeah, it was a lot like that. Compared to that getting off dip is like killing a mosquito, that's why I sounded so cocky at first. Yes, time will tell if I get back on it but I'm pretty sure I'm done. I would much rather dip than drink anyway but if I can apply the concepts of AA to this then I'm almost guaranteed success.
I was directed to this site by another person who is quitting at the same time I am and I signed in to the forums just to chime in and gain some accountability. I'll leave you all alone now, have a nice day.
Sounds reasonable for the most part. Best wishes on all your quit mmcfreds!
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2 Score and 15 minutes ago...
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2 Score and 15 minutes ago...
You sir are a funny fucker Moonie...
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2 Score and 15 minutes ago...
You sir are a funny fucker Moonie...
Yes, TIFFS.
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KTC is offering freedom at no cost Fred....
There's more than one way to skin a cat but I guess the other ways haven't been sucessfull if you are here....
Posting roll every day works for me and it's worked for a lot of others....
Don't knock it till you try it.
Miles - Celebrating my 336th day of freedom
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This site and some of the member can get to much for me. That is why you have to take what you need and get out. Easy as that.
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I predict this will be much easier than quitting drinking and quitting cigarettes. I was only dipping for about a year.
First, congrats on your drink quit...but I have a couple of questions.
What methods did you use to quit cigarettes?
How long after quitting cigarettes did you pick up the tin? Why?
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First, congrats on your drink quit...but I have a couple of questions.
What methods did you use to quit cigarettes?
How long after quitting cigarettes did you pick up the tin? Why?
Thanks!
I was on wellbutrin for 3 days when I quit smoking cigarettes. That product is awesome! It didn't curb the cravings as much as it did erase them completely. I just didn't feel the need to smoke, it was as if I had never smoked at all. After 3 days I just stopped taking it because I'm not a fan of meds of any kind (unless completely necessary).
I think I started smoking cigars about 3 years after my last cigarette. Casually at first (you can see this coming) but pretty soon I was smoking 3 cigars a day. I stopped smoking cigars after about a year of that because of the money (cold turkey) and about 3 weeks after that I asked a co-worker if he enjoyed dipping. That was in Georgia where you can get a 5-tin roll for $10 in some places. Very quickly I was off and running. It was sheer boredom at first, the plant I worked at was fully automated and we were just babysitters. Being an addict I went from zero to a tin a day in less than a week, even my friend said I was dipping more than he did.
I'm still doing fine, the cravings are gone and I'm chewing gum to control the oral fixation. I actually found a full tin in my sock drawer last night, what a shock that was. I put it on the bed and showed it to my girlfriend, then told her I was going to dump it on the front lawn and throw away the can. She laughed but understood why I wanted to dump it out. I did what I said I would and washed my hands afterward. I just can't be around it anymore, even the smell can set me off at this point. I should add that this is the first time I've actually tried to quit.
Oh, I appreciate all the kind words from those that gave them. I also appreciate the... ummm... less kind words from those that gave them. I believe that everyone has something to teach me, even if that something is what I don't want to be.
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I was directed to this site by another person who is quitting at the same time I am and I signed in to the forums just to chime in and gain some accountability. I'll leave you all alone now, have a nice day.
you want acountability? you been here 3+ days. you aint posted up roll yet. thats ware your acountability is.
you wanna make cute posts? join the face book.
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you want acountability? you been here 3+ days. you aint posted up roll yet. thats ware your acountability is.
you wanna make cute posts? join the face book.
What is it with people that think everything written on the internet is meant to be ridiculed (normally while misspelling several words along the way)? If you had read the rest of this thread you would see that I'm not going to post roll and I'm not "making cute posts." Thank you for calling me cute but I'm not gay.
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.... If you had read the rest of this thread you would see that I'm not going to post roll......
why not?
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you want acountability? you been here 3+ days. you aint posted up roll yet. thats ware your acountability is.
you wanna make cute posts? join the face book.
What is it with people that think everything written on the internet is meant to be ridiculed (normally while misspelling several words along the way)? If you had read the rest of this thread you would see that I'm not going to post roll and I'm not "making cute posts." Thank you for calling me cute but I'm not gay.
Please leave. Thank you.
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why not?
Why? I haven't written anything on the entire site except for this thread. I'm not saying anything disparaging about the KTC site, clearly it works for a lot of people. Once people read this thread and see that I'm not following the recommended (?) methods they can feel free to move on.
"Please leave. Thank you."
I will, just as soon as people stop asking me questions.
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why not?
Why? I haven't written anything on the entire site except for this thread. I'm not saying anything disparaging about the KTC site, clearly it works for a lot of people. Once people read this thread and see that I'm not following the recommended (?) methods they can feel free to move on.
"Please leave. Thank you."
I will, just as soon as people stop asking me questions.
Well, I am not ready for you to leave just yet so I'll ask: Why did you come here? What were you hoping to find?
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why not?
Why? I haven't written anything on the entire site except for this thread. I'm not saying anything disparaging about the KTC site, clearly it works for a lot of people. Once people read this thread and see that I'm not following the recommended (?) methods they can feel free to move on.
"Please leave. Thank you."
I will, just as soon as people stop asking me questions.
That's not how this place works bud.
If you want to play on our playground, you have a price of flesh to pay.
Post roll please.
Why aren't you proud to put up your number?
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First, congrats on your drink quit...but I have a couple of questions.
What methods did you use to quit cigarettes?
How long after quitting cigarettes did you pick up the tin? Why?
Thanks!
I was on wellbutrin for 3 days when I quit smoking cigarettes. That product is awesome! It didn't curb the cravings as much as it did erase them completely. I just didn't feel the need to smoke, it was as if I had never smoked at all. After 3 days I just stopped taking it because I'm not a fan of meds of any kind (unless completely necessary).
I think I started smoking cigars about 3 years after my last cigarette. Casually at first (you can see this coming) but pretty soon I was smoking 3 cigars a day. I stopped smoking cigars after about a year of that because of the money (cold turkey) and about 3 weeks after that I asked a co-worker if he enjoyed dipping. That was in Georgia where you can get a 5-tin roll for $10 in some places. Very quickly I was off and running. It was sheer boredom at first, the plant I worked at was fully automated and we were just babysitters. Being an addict I went from zero to a tin a day in less than a week, even my friend said I was dipping more than he did.
I'm still doing fine, the cravings are gone and I'm chewing gum to control the oral fixation. I actually found a full tin in my sock drawer last night, what a shock that was. I put it on the bed and showed it to my girlfriend, then told her I was going to dump it on the front lawn and throw away the can. She laughed but understood why I wanted to dump it out. I did what I said I would and washed my hands afterward. I just can't be around it anymore, even the smell can set me off at this point. I should add that this is the first time I've actually tried to quit.
Oh, I appreciate all the kind words from those that gave them. I also appreciate the... ummm... less kind words from those that gave them. I believe that everyone has something to teach me, even if that something is what I don't want to be.
Just as a point of reference, you have quit cigs and cigars. Up to this point, you have only taken a break from nicotine.
We don't take breaks here, we close doors.
I closed my door 4 years ago on this very day.
You want accountability? You get out of this what you put in.....
Your call.
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@redtrain14: well said... "we close doors." I appreciate that comment above all others. I'm not looking to close a door forever, just for the next 24 hours. Once I get into the habit of not dipping (which will happen in about 23 days) I'll be fine. Congratulations on 4 years.
The comment about "taken a break from nicotine" is also very insightful, thanks. But nicotine isn't like alcohol, it isn't nearly as damaging to me. I don't drink now but not because I'm afraid of becoming the person I used to be, I don't drink now because it wouldn't serve any purpose. I think nicotine will be harder to stay off long-term though, because I can do it anywhere and not bother anyone. I'm just going to stay off nicotine because it's not who I want to be anymore.
@wastepanel: "That's not how this place works bud." I'm not your bud, please don't patronize me. You have my permission to not click on this thread anymore, or to post another thread titled "stay away from mmcfreds, he's not one of us."
"...you have a price of flesh to pay." ...also don't be so dramatic.
"Post roll please." No. I haven't dipped since I logged into this site the first time, nor do I intend to.
"Why aren't you proud to put up your number?" Why should I be? You sound like the divemasters who tried to yell at me for not logging my dives. I told them to go screw themselves too, they were neither my boss nor my father. I completed over 300 dives while I was in Hawaii, never logged a single one, and never advanced beyond Rescue Diver. What difference does it make? I guarantee I'm more comfortable in the water than half the divemasters on the planet but if you need a cert-card to tell you I'm a good dive partner than I don't want you in the water with me anyway. If you need a guy that has been quit for years to give sound advice on how to stay that way then I don't want you in my... whatever... anyway. Everyone has something to teach me, including you.
If people don't like what I have to say, if they don't think it's going to help them stay off the dip, then those people shouldn't listen to me. I'm not dispensing advice on how to stay off the dip, nor am I pretending to be wise. But I've only tried to quit once and, thus far, have been successful.
@30yraddict: I came here to poke around a site that appeared to have something I wanted, which was a way to stay off the dip. At first I only found sarcastic, power-tripping jerks that think they have to abuse people to make them acknowledge that there is a problem. I got way too much of that in the Navy (the "mmc" in "mmcfreds) and don't have to tolerate any more of it now that I'm retired. There are bright spots of course but I don't think I'm going to make time in my day to find them or listen to what they have to say. If you want to email me in a month or year to find out if I'm dipping again I won't lie to you, there wouldn't be a purpose in it. I've used mmcfreds@yahoo.com (http://mailto:mmcfreds@yahoo.com) for about 8 years and don't see any reason to change it.
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@redtrain14: well said... "we close doors." I appreciate that comment above all others. I'm not looking to close a door forever, just for the next 24 hours. Once I get into the habit of not dipping (which will happen in about 23 days) I'll be fine. Congratulations on 4 years.
The comment about "taken a break from nicotine" is also very insightful, thanks. But nicotine isn't like alcohol, it isn't nearly as damaging to me. I don't drink now but not because I'm afraid of becoming the person I used to be, I don't drink now because it wouldn't serve any purpose. I think nicotine will be harder to stay off long-term though, because I can do it anywhere and not bother anyone. I'm just going to stay off nicotine because it's not who I want to be anymore.
@wastepanel: "That's not how this place works bud." I'm not your bud, please don't patronize me. You have my permission to not click on this thread anymore, or to post another thread titled "stay away from mmcfreds, he's not one of us."
"...you have a price of flesh to pay." ...also don't be so dramatic.
"Post roll please." No. I haven't dipped since I logged into this site the first time, nor do I intend to.
"Why aren't you proud to put up your number?" Why should I be? You sound like the divemasters who tried to yell at me for not logging my dives. I told them to go screw themselves too, they were neither my boss nor my father. I completed over 300 dives while I was in Hawaii, never logged a single one, and never advanced beyond Rescue Diver. What difference does it make? I guarantee I'm more comfortable in the water than half the divemasters on the planet but if you need a cert-card to tell you I'm a good dive partner than I don't want you in the water with me anyway. If you need a guy that has been quit for years to give sound advice on how to stay that way then I don't want you in my... whatever... anyway. Everyone has something to teach me, including you.
If people don't like what I have to say, if they don't think it's going to help them stay off the dip, then those people shouldn't listen to me. I'm not dispensing advice on how to stay off the dip, nor am I pretending to be wise. But I've only tried to quit once and, thus far, have been successful.
@30yraddict: I came here to poke around a site that appeared to have something I wanted, which was a way to stay off the dip. At first I only found sarcastic, power-tripping jerks that think they have to abuse people to make them acknowledge that there is a problem. I got way too much of that in the Navy (the "mmc" in "mmcfreds) and don't have to tolerate any more of it now that I'm retired. There are bright spots of course but I don't think I'm going to make time in my day to find them or listen to what they have to say. If you want to email me in a month or year to find out if I'm dipping again I won't lie to you, there wouldn't be a purpose in it. I've used mmcfreds@yahoo.com (http://mailto:mmcfreds@yahoo.com) for about 8 years and don't see any reason to change it.
OK...Chief....you don't need the structure and discipline because you are better than that. After all, you got out (retired) and all be damned if you are going back to that...
Your arrogance is offensive -You sound like the divemasters who tried to yell at me for not logging my dives. I told them to go screw themselves too, they were neither my boss nor my father. I completed over 300 dives while I was in Hawaii, never logged a single one, and never advanced beyond Rescue Diver. What difference does it make? I guarantee I'm more comfortable in the water than half the divemasters on the planet but if you need a cert-card to tell you I'm a good dive partner than I don't want you in the water with me anyway.
If you wanted something to help you quit, but only on your terms, head on over to your local VA - they have plenty of smoking/chewing cessation classes you can join...and lots of inexperienced, lowly residents, medical students and social workers you can impose your will upon...like some holier than thou Chief over a group of new SR...that's seamen recruits for the non-Navy...
Such a fucking waste...all the potential you have to actually make a difference on this site for yourself and others...but your too good for that...
Fair winds and following seas, shipmate...
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1. "I had my last dip at 11am this morning. It's now 11pm. I started tweaking around 3 and it's steadily gotten worse". Feb 3, 2012, 11:14 pm
2. "21 hours now. After a really good night's sleep I'm feeling much better this morning. Time for an extra cup of coffee and some gum. I predict this will be much easier than quitting drinking and quitting cigarettes". Feb 4, 2012, 7:57 am
3. "While the concepts discussed on this site no doubt work for most they are unnecessary for me. I'm just not that addicted to it". Feb 6, 2012, 11:38 am
4.”But nicotine isn't like alcohol, it isn't nearly as damaging to me. I don't drink now but not because I'm afraid of becoming the person I used to be, I don't drink now because it wouldn't serve any purpose. I think nicotine will be harder to stay off long-term though, because I can do it anywhere and not bother anyone. I'm just going to stay off nicotine because it's not who I want to be anymore”. Feb 7, 2012, 12:38 pm
LOL. For a guy that is just not that addicted to it you sure have found your way to nicotine over the years. You used cigarettes then cigars then chew. You have other addictions as well. Who da thunk it? DonÂ’t pay attention to me, I have them also. I see you in the mirror.
Do you know how many folks come in here, lay their story down and talk about just how special they are? Unique? I would hazard to guess about once every two weeks. Go ahead, read the introductions. You will see yourself. A few of them changed their mental approach, adopted the program and quit. The majority just banter a bit and fade away. I predict that is you. Fade. They still lurk on site. That is the part that cracks me up. That is right Skyhook; you were on 3 days ago! You come on all the time. I bet you still use.
You are right, I think you got this. Most unique and special butterflies need just the right plan to make it work. That accompanied with the sense of entitlement that you deserve. While the rest of us go through the drudgery of posting a promise not use and supporting each other in that endeavor.
You are not a unique and special butterfly, you are a drug addict. Addict, addict, addict. Get your head straight and you will whip this. Otherwise, I just prefer you spread your drama to: “I have the full support of those at work and those at home”.
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pah. i'll give him this thred and just move a long. theres plenty a work to do with guys what wanna quit. this crap (http://edge.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/717231/80564083.png) is waht it is.
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@redtrain14: well said... "we close doors." I appreciate that comment above all others. I'm not looking to close a door forever, just for the next 24 hours. Once I get into the habit of not dipping (which will happen in about 23 days) I'll be fine. Congratulations on 4 years.
The comment about "taken a break from nicotine" is also very insightful, thanks. But nicotine isn't like alcohol, it isn't nearly as damaging to me. I don't drink now but not because I'm afraid of becoming the person I used to be, I don't drink now because it wouldn't serve any purpose. I think nicotine will be harder to stay off long-term though, because I can do it anywhere and not bother anyone. I'm just going to stay off nicotine because it's not who I want to be anymore.
@wastepanel: "That's not how this place works bud." I'm not your bud, please don't patronize me. You have my permission to not click on this thread anymore, or to post another thread titled "stay away from mmcfreds, he's not one of us."
"...you have a price of flesh to pay." ...also don't be so dramatic.
"Post roll please." No. I haven't dipped since I logged into this site the first time, nor do I intend to.
"Why aren't you proud to put up your number?" Why should I be? You sound like the divemasters who tried to yell at me for not logging my dives. I told them to go screw themselves too, they were neither my boss nor my father. I completed over 300 dives while I was in Hawaii, never logged a single one, and never advanced beyond Rescue Diver. What difference does it make? I guarantee I'm more comfortable in the water than half the divemasters on the planet but if you need a cert-card to tell you I'm a good dive partner than I don't want you in the water with me anyway. If you need a guy that has been quit for years to give sound advice on how to stay that way then I don't want you in my... whatever... anyway. Everyone has something to teach me, including you.
If people don't like what I have to say, if they don't think it's going to help them stay off the dip, then those people shouldn't listen to me. I'm not dispensing advice on how to stay off the dip, nor am I pretending to be wise. But I've only tried to quit once and, thus far, have been successful.
@30yraddict: I came here to poke around a site that appeared to have something I wanted, which was a way to stay off the dip. At first I only found sarcastic, power-tripping jerks that think they have to abuse people to make them acknowledge that there is a problem. I got way too much of that in the Navy (the "mmc" in "mmcfreds) and don't have to tolerate any more of it now that I'm retired. There are bright spots of course but I don't think I'm going to make time in my day to find them or listen to what they have to say. If you want to email me in a month or year to find out if I'm dipping again I won't lie to you, there wouldn't be a purpose in it. I've used mmcfreds@yahoo.com (http://mailto:mmcfreds@yahoo.com) for about 8 years and don't see any reason to change it.
Addiction is addiction regardless of substance. You obviously are not looking for accountability or you would be posting roll. Accountability is key.
We don't need some deck ape, anchor clanker who doesn't want to play by the rules using our forum as his personal bitchbox. Get with the program.
[ Hint: if you are still 'trying' you will not succeed ]
Drop the act and start posting roll or AMF. This ain't Facebook.
Miles - celebrating 337 days of freedom
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pah. i'll give him this thred and just move a long. theres plenty a work to do with guys what wanna quit. this crap (http://edge.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/717231/80564083.png) is waht it is.
eggzaktly.
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Beats me what the point of this thread is all about!! :blink:
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this crap (http://edge.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/717231/80564083.png) is waht it is.
Ok THAT made me truly laugh out loud. Of course it would have been better if you had used spell check. Well done. 'crackup'
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And, with that, I'll bid a have a nice day.
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I must say that some of the stuff on here is a little over the top but it does help people. I have had one bad day since quitting but I'm not gonna rub it in the face of the guy that is struggling.
The best advice I got from this Site is take what you need and leave. Easy as pie.
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And, with that, I'll bid a have a nice day.
Well good luck with this attempt! I hope it all works out. Sincerely, best wishes.