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Title: This one time at band camp
Post by: Kubiak on July 30, 2012, 08:50:00 AM
I'm really freaked out that I wont' stick with the quit, I'm using nicotine patch and chew gum all day long. This is at least the 5th time I've quit, last time in 2008 when I got married, I was good for 9 months. I want to give my wife an anniversary surprise this Thursday that I'm 2 weeks quit and need some help getting through this. Thanks to everyone that there is a forum I can speak out to.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Notdeadyet on July 30, 2012, 09:00:00 AM
Quote from: Kubiak
I'm really freaked out that I wont' stick with the quit, I'm using nicotine patch and chew gum all day long. This is at least the 5th time I've quit, last time in 2008 when I got married, I was good for 9 months. I want to give my wife an anniversary surprise this Thursday that I'm 2 weeks quit and need some help getting through this. Thanks to everyone that there is a forum I can speak out to.
As long as you're feeding your body nicotine thru that patch you are not quit. You are addicted to nicotine and the only way to break the addiction is to stop putting that crap in your system by any delivery means. You will always be an addict but you don't have to be a slave to it. Here we support each other in our quit - we do this by posting roll call each day. Roll call is our promise not to have any nicotine for today only. We then keep our promise. Wake up and post roll call again as early as possible tomorrow. Click on the "salmon" colored Welcome Center above and read, read, read.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Bruce on July 30, 2012, 09:03:00 AM
Quote from: Kubiak
I'm really freaked out that I wont' stick with the quit, I'm using nicotine patch and chew gum all day long. This is at least the 5th time I've quit, last time in 2008 when I got married, I was good for 9 months. I want to give my wife an anniversary surprise this Thursday that I'm 2 weeks quit and need some help getting through this. Thanks to everyone that there is a forum I can speak out to.
First of, drop the patches, period.

Second, take the 'want' and 'try' out of your vocabulary here. Quit, just throw out any nicotine you have, because we are a NO NIC site. Go post day 1 in your new quit group November '12, find out how to post roll HERE  (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50).

You have to quit for yourself bro, yea, your wife will be happy you did. But you will be the one that feels the difference. The first 3 days suck, but guess what, I did it, thousands of people here did it and you can do it too. There is not one good reason you can come up with to keep dipping, there are millions of good reasaons you can come up with to quit...like living. Don't be scared, grow some quit balls of steel and just fucking quit.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: jaginvest on July 30, 2012, 09:38:00 AM
Quote from: Kubiak
I'm really freaked out that I wont' stick with the quit, I'm using nicotine patch and chew gum all day long.  This is at least the 5th time I've quit, last time in 2008 when I got married, I was good for 9 months.  I want to give my wife an anniversary surprise this Thursday that I'm 2 weeks quit and need some help getting through this.  Thanks to everyone that there is a forum I can speak out to.
You can't quit because you are still putting the poison in your body. You have to get that shit out of your system. "COLD TURKEY" bitches. Throw all that shit in the trashcan and man the fuck up. KTC has the key, use it. No nicotine in any form, Post Roll first thing everyday, ask for support from others in your group and other groups. It is that simple. Then do it again tomorrow.

Yes it is gonna fucking suck, it did for all of us. We all have withdrawel, some worse than others, but we all have to go through it to be done with that bitch. It sounds like you truly are ready to quit, so listen to what we are telling you. Obviously your method doesn't fucking work if this is your 5th try. So try something new, something proven. KTC will change your life if you work it. Promise us 1 day, with no nicotene, and we will give you everything we have.

PM some guys from October 12, including me. We will send you numbers to help you through the tough shit. We text each other daily and check up on each other. But you have to want it, you need to reach out to us.

Quittin Like A Fucking Madman!
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: 30isEnuff on July 30, 2012, 03:23:00 PM
Dude Kubiak, Quit now! don't use the PUSSY Patches and PUSSY gum!!!! You're not a PUSSY are YOU?
no whining, just do it and don't be a pussy about it!!!!!!! YOu're nothing special, you're just like us, all of us here who are getting our lives back from big asshole Tobacco companies!!!!!!! Noone, you, me or any of the other men here signed up to get addicted and become addicts to nicotine...but it happened. So, lets get quit today, one day at a time, YOU can do this, there are many veteran dumbass former dippers/chewers who have gone before us and paved the way......we have it easy, all we have to do is listen, apply the tools and stay quit!!!!
I will never regret quitting, but I would always regret caving....I am quit 67 daze...1st and last quit...I am quit I am NOT stopped!!!!
Yeah, I want you to quit for YOU! Not for the wife, the kids, your mom or daddy. Dude, be the MAN and quit for YOU and you'll stay quit one day at a time forever!!!! If a dumbass hillbilly like me can quit, I KNOW that YOU can too!!! 'zombie'
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Kubiak on July 30, 2012, 03:44:00 PM
You guys are awesome. Thanks for convincing my quit method. I was actually dreading putting a patch on every day for the next 12 weeks. I could really use the support, too, so yes I will post tomorrow as my quit day (damn it I thought I was 12 days in already!)
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Scowick65 on July 30, 2012, 03:46:00 PM
Quote from: Kubiak
You guys are awesome. Thanks for convincing my quit method. I was actually dreading putting a patch on every day for the next 12 weeks. I could really use the support, too, so yes I will post tomorrow as my quit day (damn it I thought I was 12 days in already!)
Throw your nicotine away and post today!
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Kubiak on July 30, 2012, 03:48:00 PM
FREEDOM!!!!! -primal scream as I rip the patch off my shoulder

OK now I will try to post for real
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Grizzly25 on July 30, 2012, 03:59:00 PM
Quote from: Kubiak
FREEDOM!!!!! -primal scream as I rip the patch off my shoulder

OK now I will try to post for real
Good stuff brother! Make sure you read the how to post and take your time quiting is tough but with this website and the support it brings you can do it!

PM me if you need some numbers

Quit on quiter!
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Scowick65 on July 30, 2012, 04:23:00 PM
Quote from: Grizzly25
Quote from: Kubiak
FREEDOM!!!!!  -primal scream as I rip the patch off my shoulder

OK now I will try to post for real
Good stuff brother! Make sure you read the how to post and take your time quiting is tough but with this website and the support it brings you can do it!

PM me if you need some numbers

Quit on quiter!
Yes, great stuff. Taking charge of your life! PM if you ever need some assistance. I am happy to help.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Scowick65 on August 02, 2012, 11:41:00 AM
Keep bringing the quit bro!
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Kubiak on August 07, 2012, 08:24:00 AM
At what point do I say that my emotional rollercoaster is too much for my family and I need meds? I'm on day 9, I thought if this keeps up another week I'll go get some "mood enhancers". Anyone have any advice?
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Grizzly25 on August 07, 2012, 08:31:00 AM
Quote from: Kubiak
At what point do I say that my emotional rollercoaster is too much for my family and I need meds? I'm on day 9, I thought if this keeps up another week I'll go get some "mood enhancers". Anyone have any advice?
I would tell you not to get the mood enhancers but I am also not you or a doctor....so.....I will say make sure you find yourself some good alone time and a great way to blow off some steam.....alot of steam!

I would say your still in the middle of some shitty funk and somewhat foggy since this is still so new, the good news is that it will get better.

I find that when I first started my quit I would take some good long walks which was back in february so it was hard to do much else, anyway, I learned that the more I kicked my own ass and really exerted myself the more mellow I was.

I dont know if this will help you completely but trust me the thought of the emotional roller coaster becomming to tough is an early indicator of caving and your not a caver!

Try some good excersie or whatever really relaxes you and stick with it!
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Diesel2112 on August 07, 2012, 11:15:00 AM
Quote from: Kubiak
At what point do I say that my emotional rollercoaster is too much for my family and I need meds? I'm on day 9, I thought if this keeps up another week I'll go get some "mood enhancers". Anyone have any advice?
If your just on an emotional roller coaster, I say ride it out, especially after only 9 days. If you're full of anxiety, feel depressed, or are physically hurting with panic attacks I say go to the doc or talk to a councellor.

I say this from personal experience as my body physically went haywire when I quit. I tried to ride it out and be a macho man but eventually went to a shrink and a counselour. That was a month and a half ago. Today with the help of some meds my anxiety is all but gone and my dossage has already been reduced and my therapist says we're at a point where we don't have much to talk about anymore.

Don't get me wrong meds will not beat this for you. You will still need to do all the heavy lifting, which both of my docs said I have been doing. The meds as they explained are just an assist. Some people need them and others don't. They were a life saver for me. PM me if u have any other questions.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Kubiak on August 08, 2012, 07:43:00 AM
Cool, thanks, that helps. I'll ride this out for a week, see if it gets better. Today feels good!
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Scowick65 on August 08, 2012, 08:35:00 PM
Quote from: Kubiak
Cool, thanks, that helps. I'll ride this out for a week, see if it gets better. Today feels good!
Hang in there.

The first 3 days really really suck.
The first 3 weeks really suck.
The first 3 months suck.

You are half way done with really sucks. You never have to go through this again.

Drink up the misery!
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Souliman on August 08, 2012, 08:43:00 PM
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: Kubiak
Cool, thanks, that helps.  I'll ride this out for a week, see if it gets better.  Today feels good!
Hang in there.

The first 3 days really really suck.
The first 3 weeks really suck.
The first 3 months suck.

You are half way done with really sucks. You never have to go through this again.

Drink up the misery!
You stuffed frickin poison into your body consciously. You think your body dug that? Fuck no.

Fight through this shit. There is no "see if it gets better"...it is fucking better. You are free. That's the fucking secret sauce around this joint. Step out that door and tell the world "I QUIT". Sing that shit out loud. Make a fist like you would bash the shit out of anyone who tries to take it from you. The nic bitch is a lying heathen. You got to be ready to stomp the shit out of her when she gets in your path. Take the fight to her. Be proactive. Fuck. You don't need that shit. You don't do that shit anymore. You are free. Fucking A-yes.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Scowick65 on August 08, 2012, 11:13:00 PM
Quote from: Souliman
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: Kubiak
Cool, thanks, that helps.  I'll ride this out for a week, see if it gets better.  Today feels good!
Hang in there.

The first 3 days really really suck.
The first 3 weeks really suck.
The first 3 months suck.

You are half way done with really sucks. You never have to go through this again.

Drink up the misery!
You stuffed frickin poison into your body consciously. You think your body dug that? Fuck no.

Fight through this shit. There is no "see if it gets better"...it is fucking better. You are free. That's the fucking secret sauce around this joint. Step out that door and tell the world "I QUIT". Sing that shit out loud. Make a fist like you would bash the shit out of anyone who tries to take it from you. The nic bitch is a lying heathen. You got to be ready to stomp the shit out of her when she gets in your path. Take the fight to her. Be proactive. Fuck. You don't need that shit. You don't do that shit anymore. You are free. Fucking A-yes.
The guy above speaks the truth. You are at ten days. Open the door and scream I am free! You win. Do you appreciate freedom yet? You shall soon if not. I smile every time I see your name in November 2012
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Kubiak on August 15, 2012, 09:07:00 AM
Definitely better. I'm growing into a relationship with this quit, we're getting to know each other very well. We both hate the nicotine bitch, and my quit is hate fucking that bitch every chance it gets. Now I know what "posting roll and one day at a time" means.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Kubiak on August 27, 2012, 08:20:00 AM
Quote from: Kubiak
Definitely better. I'm growing into a relationship with this quit, we're getting to know each other very well. We both hate the nicotine bitch, and my quit is hate fucking that bitch every chance it gets. Now I know what "posting roll and one day at a time" means.
Day 29 without Nicotine, Day 41 w/out chew. Sometimes I feel like something's missing, usually right before I leave the house... "keys, wallet, chew, phone" was my checklist since college. Really, college? I've given up most of the other bad habits I had in college, like drinking until I puked on my shoes, fucking fat girls for fun, sleeping in until noon, but in hindsight I never thought chew would be around this long. I never wanted it to. In fact, I only started chew because I wanted to quit smoking. I started playing Rugby, and smoking became a problem. I told my mates "If you see me smoking, punch me in the face" and they did wholeheartedly, a couple times. Then someone said "here, have a dip". I threw up immediately, filling an empty pitcher with vomit that should have served warning of the evils of chew. At the time, though, we used to fill pitchers with vomit or urine because it was funny, and leave them on other people's tables.

I'm telling these other stories as a way to avoid why I'm replying to my introduction... over the weekend, my family went to see Thomas the train and I saw a guy there, probably around my age, with a giant tumor on his neck right around where I used to throw in a dip. He was there with his son I guess, and I could tell they were having a wonderful time in each other's company. Not only did that little boy not care about his dad's giant tumor (we're talking softball size), but the Dad didn't seem to care when he kissed his son and hugged him. It was all I could do to not stare, and I really thought about how lucky to not have one of those giant tumors myself, especially with 16 years of poison in my face. I'm also lucky to have one of those really cool sons to spend time with, and I'm pissed that even though I don't have one of those giant tumors now, I very well could end up with one and potentially deny my son years of knowing his father.

Appreciate every day, as they are numbered for everyone, the only doubt is in how big our number is.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Scowick65 on August 27, 2012, 08:23:00 AM
Quote from: Kubiak
Quote from: Kubiak
Definitely better.  I'm growing into a relationship with this quit, we're getting to know each other very well.  We both hate the nicotine bitch, and my quit is hate fucking that bitch every chance it gets.  Now I know what "posting roll and one day at a time" means.
Day 29 without Nicotine, Day 41 w/out chew. Sometimes I feel like something's missing, usually right before I leave the house... "keys, wallet, chew, phone" was my checklist since college. Really, college? I've given up most of the other bad habits I had in college, like drinking until I puked on my shoes, fucking fat girls for fun, sleeping in until noon, but in hindsight I never thought chew would be around this long. I never wanted it to. In fact, I only started chew because I wanted to quit smoking. I started playing Rugby, and smoking became a problem. I told my mates "If you see me smoking, punch me in the face" and they did wholeheartedly, a couple times. Then someone said "here, have a dip". I threw up immediately, filling an empty pitcher with vomit that should have served warning of the evils of chew. At the time, though, we used to fill pitchers with vomit or urine because it was funny, and leave them on other people's tables.

I'm telling these other stories as a way to avoid why I'm replying to my introduction... over the weekend, my family went to see Thomas the train and I saw a guy there, probably around my age, with a giant tumor on his neck right around where I used to throw in a dip. He was there with his son I guess, and I could tell they were having a wonderful time in each other's company. Not only did that little boy not care about his dad's giant tumor (we're talking softball size), but the Dad didn't seem to care when he kissed his son and hugged him. It was all I could do to not stare, and I really thought about how lucky to not have one of those giant tumors myself, especially with 16 years of poison in my face. I'm also lucky to have one of those really cool sons to spend time with, and I'm pissed that even though I don't have one of those giant tumors now, I very well could end up with one and potentially deny my son years of knowing his father.

Appreciate every day, as they are numbered for everyone, the only doubt is in how big our number is.
Nice job on the quit.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: TSNUS on August 27, 2012, 08:38:00 AM
WTG Kubiak! Proud to be quit with you today. Quit on!
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: MortarmanMike on August 27, 2012, 05:24:00 PM
Hey Guys. I also quit on 19 August but it was before I found this site. Just decided I was done and went cold turkey. Yeah it sucked for about 4 days. But now I feel great. I sleep a full nights sleep now - my body isn't waking me up to feed the bitch. I have more energy. My flag flies at full staff with increased spontaneous regularity. (That is a huge pyshological advantage as I didn't expect such an abrupt change) Definitely the best decision I've made in a long time.

I found this site while looking for information on second hand smoke and it seems like a worthwhile site. My question is that now that the nic is out of my system, how dangerous is it to be around smokers? I was never a smoker before but I know my body doesn't give a shit. Nicotine is nicotine. And after 25yrs of use, I'm sure my body is very efficient at taking up the poison.

I'm not planning on immersing myself in second hand smoke but how much residual nicotine is in it? I realize that a smoke filled bar is off limits as well as being in a car with a smoker. But what about low level second-hand smoke? Will my body soak it up like a sponge? Every friend I have is an active smoker. My social circle has not been overly supportive. They have offered half hearted congratulations but I think my quitting makes them feel bad. It makes me sad that they won't follow me yet.

My first 4 days of withdraw were pretty difficult. I was a heavy user (2 cans every 3 days.) I didn't experience the same emotional rollercoasters others have mentioned. Mostly just nervousness and anxiety. No violence or anger. I consider myself fortunate and don't minimize the anguish of others.

Day number 8 and I've only had 1 craving so far. It actually made me laugh. I kinda welcome the craves now. They are my bitch. They remind me that I'm winning and that my mind is in control. Not my body. I've been in most situations that triggered cravings already. Driving solo long distance. Shooting at the range, etc... Tobacco never made me feel as good as I feel right now without it. The confidence boost has been incredible. I have no desire to go back to that slavery. Would hate to accidently dose myself with second hand poison.



Yall have a good day
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Kubiak on August 31, 2012, 07:45:00 AM
Quote from: MortarmanMike
Hey Guys. I also quit on 19 August but it was before I found this site. Just decided I was done and went cold turkey. Yeah it sucked for about 4 days. But now I feel great. I sleep a full nights sleep now - my body isn't waking me up to feed the bitch. I have more energy. My flag flies at full staff with increased spontaneous regularity. (That is a huge pyshological advantage as I didn't expect such an abrupt change) Definitely the best decision I've made in a long time.

I found this site while looking for information on second hand smoke and it seems like a worthwhile site. My question is that now that the nic is out of my system, how dangerous is it to be around smokers? I was never a smoker before but I know my body doesn't give a shit. Nicotine is nicotine. And after 25yrs of use, I'm sure my body is very efficient at taking up the poison.

I'm not planning on immersing myself in second hand smoke but how much residual nicotine is in it? I realize that a smoke filled bar is off limits as well as being in a car with a smoker. But what about low level second-hand smoke? Will my body soak it up like a sponge? Every friend I have is an active smoker. My social circle has not been overly supportive. They have offered half hearted congratulations but I think my quitting makes them feel bad. It makes me sad that they won't follow me yet.

My first 4 days of withdraw were pretty difficult. I was a heavy user (2 cans every 3 days.) I didn't experience the same emotional rollercoasters others have mentioned. Mostly just nervousness and anxiety. No violence or anger. I consider myself fortunate and don't minimize the anguish of others.

Day number 8 and I've only had 1 craving so far. It actually made me laugh. I kinda welcome the craves now. They are my bitch. They remind me that I'm winning and that my mind is in control. Not my body. I've been in most situations that triggered cravings already. Driving solo long distance. Shooting at the range, etc... Tobacco never made me feel as good as I feel right now without it. The confidence boost has been incredible. I have no desire to go back to that slavery. Would hate to accidently dose myself with second hand poison.



Yall have a good day
Hey thanks for posting your quit thoughts here. I'm not sure where you can get the most info on 2nd hand smoke but yeah I'd probably stay away. Yes quitting is the most liberating feeling in the world but stay vigilant, the nic bitch will look for any weakness or putting down of your guard. That's my favorite thing about this site... by posting roll every day, as soon as I get to work, it's my daily reminder that i'll always be an addict and that i have to quit every day.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Kubiak on September 08, 2012, 12:58:00 AM
I was wondering if anyone knew what that you-know-what was, because I've lost my flute and can't find it. I don't know if you know how much those you-know-whats cost to get fixed, but they're a lot more than a flute. Thanks for your support, stay quit.

Kubiak
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Kubiak on September 08, 2012, 01:03:00 AM
Quote from: Kubiak
I was wondering if anyone knew what that you-know-what was, because I've lost my flute and can't find it. I don't know if you know how much those you-know-whats cost to get fixed, but they're a lot more than a flute. Thanks for your support, stay quit.

Kubiak
Okay so I wasn't completely honest, I do know what my you-know-what is, but I'm really looking to get back in shape. I keep waking up an hour past bedtime and eating food, and i used to dip during this time, but now my you-know-what is squeaky clean and ready for fucking. I've been told that exercise would help, but i was wondering if there was a quit group for sticking you-know-whats up my you-know-what. Thanks for your help quitters!
Love, Kubiak CuntFace
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Mike17 on September 08, 2012, 07:02:00 PM
Quote from: Kubiak
Quote from: Kubiak
I was wondering if anyone knew what that you-know-what was, because I've lost my flute and can't find it.  I don't know if you know how much those you-know-whats cost to get fixed, but they're a lot more than a flute.  Thanks for your support, stay quit.

Kubiak
Okay so I wasn't completely honest, I do know what my you-know-what is, but I'm really looking to get back in shape. I keep waking up an hour past bedtime and eating food, and i used to dip during this time, but now my you-know-what is squeaky clean and ready for fucking. I've been told that exercise would help, but i was wondering if there was a quit group for sticking you-know-whats up my you-know-what. Thanks for your help quitters!
Love, Kubiak CuntFace
You gotta change up your lifestyle man.. go to sleep and wake up at appropriate times, no more or less than 8 hours of sleep a night. Live an active lifestyle, As for the you know what, just do it man!

Dont know if that helps or if you're just fuckin around cos you are a funny guy haha but anyways thats what id do. Sleep takes up half of our lives its important to do it correctly. Fuck food too man dont eat anything processed, go all natural.

and im out -mike17
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Deleted User (sccrockett) on September 08, 2012, 07:18:00 PM
'crackup'

You are seriously fucked in the head. Proud to be quit with you, cuntface.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Arfy on September 08, 2012, 08:33:00 PM
If you would stop shitting yourself Kub, that would be a start.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Kubiak on October 26, 2012, 08:51:00 PM
Me quit. Me quit good. Me like quit. Me quit with cuntfaces. Me stay quit today. Me try patch. Me no like patch. Me quit turkey. Me kill the can.

Rough draft of my hof speech.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Scowick65 on October 27, 2012, 02:31:00 AM
Quote from: Kubiak
Me quit. Me quit good. Me like quit. Me quit with cuntfaces. Me stay quit today. Me try patch. Me no like patch. Me quit turkey. Me kill the can.

Rough draft of my hof speech.
Me likey! Great job friend! You are a bad ass quiter.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Scowick65 on November 06, 2012, 03:06:00 PM
To Kubiak, November 2012

Kubiak, welcome to day 100. What have you built? A fine frame of a Quit House, and yes, you did build it.

1. Your day 1 was the day you chose to unroll a set of architectural drawings for your House of Quit. The set of instructions were time proven. House after House. Built to stand. Built to shelter.

2. Soon after, you began gathering your tools: Posting roll. Telephone numbers in your cell phone. Words of Wisdom. Hall of Fame Speeches, etc. Threads and posts from others who have built Houses of Quit; many further along than yours.

3. You surrounded yourself with some of the finest subcontractors around. Not Dr. Doucebag, M.D. peddling some nicotine pill, but hard-core quitters that had already built some Quit Houses. Some damn nice Quit Houses. Some Houses were Historic ~ Day 6,000 one house says. Day 1,500 says another. Some Houses were starters in your same neighborhood. All built to stand. All built with a common set of drawings. All built with the same tools and on the same foundation.

Your job now is to take that frame that you buit and make it weather tight. A shelter for you. A shelter for someone else that shows up, knocks on the door and asks, “How can I build a House of Quit”.

I know you can. One day at a time. Great job Kubiak.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Kubiak on November 13, 2012, 10:42:00 PM
Thanks scowick you've always been great support.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Kubiak on November 13, 2012, 10:45:00 PM
I still don't understand where I can be gay around here. I got some people to "talk curious" with me over in random thoughts, but then a bunch of pillow biters turned it into gay marriage political bullshit.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Kubiak on November 29, 2012, 10:20:00 AM
My HOF speech:

So I wrote a 2 page love letter to tobacco as my HOF speech, read it the next day, and almost threw up. It connected the dots of my life with a parasite. IÂ’m glad I wrote it, because it helped me see what tobacco took from me. I fucking hate tobacco.

My love letter talked about when I started smoking in college, when I dipped so that I could breathe while playing rugby, and how I moved from east coast to west coast and dip followed me the whole time. It talked about ninja dips and long car rides. It talked about my prior quits and my prior caves. It talked about bragging to my church on video about my quit, only to cave within a year. And it made me realize how tobacco ruled my life for nearly 20 years. I saw that my prior quits were for other people, and my caves where when these people let me down.

Tobacco is still in my life, because I have to quit every fucking day, but at least IÂ’m in charge. I quit for me because I deserve to live without a parasite that took my joy, ruled my thoughts, took me away from my family and joined me while with my friends. A parasite that now prevents me from being with these friends because it still owns them and wants to own me again. One day I hope to be strong enough to be an inspiration to them, but not yet. This parasite is so strong that every day, I have to make a promise to quit it.

IÂ’ve gone a year and a half quit before, so the 100 day hall of fame is nothing to celebrate other than a milestone. I was flying solo before though, so I am counting on all the cuntfaces of November 2012 and the vets on KTC to hold my pathetic ass accountable as quit. Hopefully when I reach 365 days my wife will let me do anal.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Kubiak on December 01, 2012, 09:26:00 PM
I come on this site at times when i'm craving or thinking about dip. As a quitter, that probably shouldn't happen anymore, i should be so super stinkin quit that i never crave... well that's probably bullshit and if it isn't, that's just not me. So anyway, i come to the site for wisdom from others who are wearing these same shitty shoes.

Tonight I'm using the family computer, on which no porn is conjured by my fingertips, and I noticed on the desktop a really sweet picture of my wife and i from two winters ago. I'm dipping and she doesn't know it. It may be a pouch, which i used for super-ninja days, or just a tiny one. How sad that i used to plan what kind of dip to buy based on who where what how.

Anyway sometimes when i'm on here and i'm craving, i may or may not find something to make me smile. when my tongue hurts and i'm worried about cancer, i'm not sure if reading anything will help, so i think of crazy ass shit to write. I have never actually shoved anything up my own ass, that's really just a joke and/or fantasy, i haven't decided if that's something i would enjoy. But i will write about it, post roll with it, tell jokes about it, whatever, because that's 30 more seconds that i'm not thinking about dip and it usually works in changing thought pattern.

Now that's a catch 22 isn't it... ya come on the site to stop thinking about dip but read lots of stories about dipping. well why come on here at all then you say? cuz my addict ass is thinking about dip anyway, so why not be reminded about why it's shitty and how awesome it is to be in control again!!!

Anyway, those are my thoughts, i'm gonna go see if my wife will shove a shampoo bottle up my ass and push it in and out at a medium pace.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: mich 34 on December 01, 2012, 09:49:00 PM
Quote from: Kubiak
I come on this site at times when i'm craving or thinking about dip. As a quitter, that probably shouldn't happen anymore, i should be so super stinkin quit that i never crave... well that's probably bullshit and if it isn't, that's just not me. So anyway, i come to the site for wisdom from others who are wearing these same shitty shoes.

Tonight I'm using the family computer, on which no porn is conjured by my fingertips, and I noticed on the desktop a really sweet picture of my wife and i from two winters ago. I'm dipping and she doesn't know it. It may be a pouch, which i used for super-ninja days, or just a tiny one. How sad that i used to plan what kind of dip to buy based on who where what how.

Anyway sometimes when i'm on here and i'm craving, i may or may not find something to make me smile. when my tongue hurts and i'm worried about cancer, i'm not sure if reading anything will help, so i think of crazy ass shit to write. I have never actually shoved anything up my own ass, that's really just a joke and/or fantasy, i haven't decided if that's something i would enjoy. But i will write about it, post roll with it, tell jokes about it, whatever, because that's 30 more seconds that i'm not thinking about dip and it usually works in changing thought pattern.

Now that's a catch 22 isn't it... ya come on the site to stop thinking about dip but read lots of stories about dipping. well why come on here at all then you say? cuz my addict ass is thinking about dip anyway, so why not be reminded about why it's shitty and how awesome it is to be in control again!!!

Anyway, those are my thoughts, i'm gonna go see if my wife will shove a shampoo bottle up my ass and push it in and out at a medium pace.
that song used to make me laugh so fuckin hard. It gets my vote for one of the best love songs ever!
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: wastepanel on December 01, 2012, 10:43:00 PM
Quote from: mich
Quote from: Kubiak
I come on this site at times when i'm craving or thinking about dip.  As a quitter, that probably shouldn't happen anymore, i should be so super stinkin quit that i never crave... well that's probably bullshit and if it isn't, that's just not me.  So anyway, i come to the site for wisdom from others who are wearing these same shitty shoes.

Tonight I'm using the family computer, on which no porn is conjured by my fingertips, and I noticed on the desktop a really sweet picture of my wife and i from two winters ago.  I'm dipping and she doesn't know it.  It may be a pouch, which i used for super-ninja days, or just a tiny one.  How sad that i used to plan what kind of dip to buy based on who where what how.

Anyway sometimes when i'm on here and i'm craving, i may or may not find something to make me smile.  when my tongue hurts and i'm worried about cancer, i'm not sure if reading anything will help, so i think of crazy ass shit to write.  I have never actually shoved anything up my own ass, that's really just a joke and/or fantasy, i haven't decided if that's something i would enjoy.  But i will write about it, post roll with it, tell jokes about it, whatever, because that's 30 more seconds that i'm not thinking about dip and it usually works in changing thought pattern.

Now that's a catch 22 isn't it... ya come on the site to stop thinking about dip but read lots of stories about dipping.  well why come on here at all then you say?  cuz my addict ass is thinking about dip anyway, so why not be reminded about why it's shitty and how awesome it is to be in control again!!!

Anyway, those are my thoughts, i'm gonna go see if my wife will shove a shampoo bottle up my ass and push it in and out at a medium pace.
that song used to make me laugh so fuckin hard. It gets my vote for one of the best love songs ever!
I'll quit with you today man.

I'm very proud of you.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: loot on December 01, 2012, 10:59:00 PM
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: mich
Quote from: Kubiak
I come on this site at times when i'm craving or thinking about dip.  As a quitter, that probably shouldn't happen anymore, i should be so super stinkin quit that i never crave... well that's probably bullshit and if it isn't, that's just not me.  So anyway, i come to the site for wisdom from others who are wearing these same shitty shoes.

Tonight I'm using the family computer, on which no porn is conjured by my fingertips, and I noticed on the desktop a really sweet picture of my wife and i from two winters ago.  I'm dipping and she doesn't know it.  It may be a pouch, which i used for super-ninja days, or just a tiny one.  How sad that i used to plan what kind of dip to buy based on who where what how.

Anyway sometimes when i'm on here and i'm craving, i may or may not find something to make me smile.  when my tongue hurts and i'm worried about cancer, i'm not sure if reading anything will help, so i think of crazy ass shit to write.  I have never actually shoved anything up my own ass, that's really just a joke and/or fantasy, i haven't decided if that's something i would enjoy.  But i will write about it, post roll with it, tell jokes about it, whatever, because that's 30 more seconds that i'm not thinking about dip and it usually works in changing thought pattern.

Now that's a catch 22 isn't it... ya come on the site to stop thinking about dip but read lots of stories about dipping.  well why come on here at all then you say?  cuz my addict ass is thinking about dip anyway, so why not be reminded about why it's shitty and how awesome it is to be in control again!!!

Anyway, those are my thoughts, i'm gonna go see if my wife will shove a shampoo bottle up my ass and push it in and out at a medium pace.
that song used to make me laugh so fuckin hard. It gets my vote for one of the best love songs ever!
I'll quit with you today man.

I'm very proud of you.
What happened to the story about your ass? You tricked ol loot into reading the whole thing...waiting to see what inanimate object we'd be hidiing and it all hyped up and ended prematurely. That is wrong sir. Continue pleSe..
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Smokeyg on December 01, 2012, 11:37:00 PM
Quote from: loot
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: mich
Quote from: Kubiak
I come on this site at times when i'm craving or thinking about dip.  As a quitter, that probably shouldn't happen anymore, i should be so super stinkin quit that i never crave... well that's probably bullshit and if it isn't, that's just not me.  So anyway, i come to the site for wisdom from others who are wearing these same shitty shoes.

Tonight I'm using the family computer, on which no porn is conjured by my fingertips, and I noticed on the desktop a really sweet picture of my wife and i from two winters ago.  I'm dipping and she doesn't know it.  It may be a pouch, which i used for super-ninja days, or just a tiny one.  How sad that i used to plan what kind of dip to buy based on who where what how.

Anyway sometimes when i'm on here and i'm craving, i may or may not find something to make me smile.  when my tongue hurts and i'm worried about cancer, i'm not sure if reading anything will help, so i think of crazy ass shit to write.  I have never actually shoved anything up my own ass, that's really just a joke and/or fantasy, i haven't decided if that's something i would enjoy.  But i will write about it, post roll with it, tell jokes about it, whatever, because that's 30 more seconds that i'm not thinking about dip and it usually works in changing thought pattern.

Now that's a catch 22 isn't it... ya come on the site to stop thinking about dip but read lots of stories about dipping.  well why come on here at all then you say?  cuz my addict ass is thinking about dip anyway, so why not be reminded about why it's shitty and how awesome it is to be in control again!!!

Anyway, those are my thoughts, i'm gonna go see if my wife will shove a shampoo bottle up my ass and push it in and out at a medium pace.
that song used to make me laugh so fuckin hard. It gets my vote for one of the best love songs ever!
I'll quit with you today man.

I'm very proud of you.
What happened to the story about your ass? You tricked ol loot into reading the whole thing...waiting to see what inanimate object we'd be hidiing and it all hyped up and ended prematurely. That is wrong sir. Continue pleSe..
I've never stuck anything up my ass either. Yeah right.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Kubiak on December 02, 2012, 08:26:00 AM
Quote from: Smokeyg
Quote from: loot
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: mich
Quote from: Kubiak
I come on this site at times when i'm craving or thinking about dip.  As a quitter, that probably shouldn't happen anymore, i should be so super stinkin quit that i never crave... well that's probably bullshit and if it isn't, that's just not me.  So anyway, i come to the site for wisdom from others who are wearing these same shitty shoes.

Tonight I'm using the family computer, on which no porn is conjured by my fingertips, and I noticed on the desktop a really sweet picture of my wife and i from two winters ago.  I'm dipping and she doesn't know it.  It may be a pouch, which i used for super-ninja days, or just a tiny one.  How sad that i used to plan what kind of dip to buy based on who where what how.

Anyway sometimes when i'm on here and i'm craving, i may or may not find something to make me smile.  when my tongue hurts and i'm worried about cancer, i'm not sure if reading anything will help, so i think of crazy ass shit to write.  I have never actually shoved anything up my own ass, that's really just a joke and/or fantasy, i haven't decided if that's something i would enjoy.  But i will write about it, post roll with it, tell jokes about it, whatever, because that's 30 more seconds that i'm not thinking about dip and it usually works in changing thought pattern.

Now that's a catch 22 isn't it... ya come on the site to stop thinking about dip but read lots of stories about dipping.  well why come on here at all then you say?  cuz my addict ass is thinking about dip anyway, so why not be reminded about why it's shitty and how awesome it is to be in control again!!!

Anyway, those are my thoughts, i'm gonna go see if my wife will shove a shampoo bottle up my ass and push it in and out at a medium pace.
that song used to make me laugh so fuckin hard. It gets my vote for one of the best love songs ever!
I'll quit with you today man.

I'm very proud of you.
What happened to the story about your ass? You tricked ol loot into reading the whole thing...waiting to see what inanimate object we'd be hidiing and it all hyped up and ended prematurely. That is wrong sir. Continue pleSe..
I've never stuck anything up my ass either. Yeah right.  
End of story: Wife said no quit asking, nighty night... try again tomorrow.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Kubiak on December 02, 2012, 01:49:00 PM
If someone likes the busy-ness of chewing sunflower seeds but hates all the salt in it, and also likes the taste of coffee, try this... I've been nibbling on coffee beans while i'm driving. You can crack 'em in half like a sunflower seed but they taste like coffee instead of salt.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Kubiak on December 05, 2012, 04:05:00 PM
It felt wrong to put this directly into SWJ's intro thread, but this is still my opinion so I have to say it...

I just found this thread (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6168) on my day 129. Sure those stories are funny, but also long and self-absorbed. I'm really happy that I never read this early in my quit, because the moral of the story is that no matter how much support you get, no matter how much you want to quit, it's still easy to cave. And I didn't need the negativity early on. I would not have done well seeing how much people looked up to this guy for being funny ha ha quit story guy.

I feel like now, the timing is perfect, because I just went through a monumental funk, not a depression funk but a 3-day crave that was set off with a vivid dip dream so real that i swear i actually caved in my sleep and woke up with a day 1. So just like a dip dream, i get to read how bad it would suck to cave, how shitty it would be to shit all over your quit brothers and come crawling back in here to try and justify another quit. How much of a shitstorm is caused when half your fellow quitters have a hard time forgiving you.

Thank you funny afro guy for letting me know how shitty it is to cave.

this thread (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6168)
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Bruce on December 05, 2012, 04:19:00 PM
Quote from: Kubiak
It felt wrong to put this directly into SWJ's intro thread, but this is still my opinion so I have to say it...

I just found this thread (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6168) on my day 129. Sure those stories are funny, but also long and self-absorbed. I'm really happy that I never read this early in my quit, because the moral of the story is that no matter how much support you get, no matter how much you want to quit, it's still easy to cave. And I didn't need the negativity early on. I would not have done well seeing how much people looked up to this guy for being funny ha ha quit story guy.

I feel like now, the timing is perfect, because I just went through a monumental funk, not a depression funk but a 3-day crave that was set off with a vivid dip dream so real that i swear i actually caved in my sleep and woke up with a day 1. So just like a dip dream, i get to read how bad it would suck to cave, how shitty it would be to shit all over your quit brothers and come crawling back in here to try and justify another quit. How much of a shitstorm is caused when half your fellow quitters have a hard time forgiving you.

Thank you funny afro guy for letting me know how shitty it is to cave.

this thread (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6168)
Good post, but I disagree that it's 'easy to cave'. For me, it would be hard as fuck to cave. Sure it's easy to go buy a can and throw one in, but that's not what I'm talking about. Facing my 'inner circle' would be impossible...i couldn't do it. Not the shit storm I would get from the site because, to be honest, most of the ones who would be throwing stones have done shit for my quit. But the Mcarmo's, bwb's, Roam's, 2mch's, Swede's, Sud's, Evil's, Crockett's, Morgan's and more importantly myself that I would have to face and I don't want to put myself in that situation. The shame/hurt and betrayal that I felt when one close to me drifted and cave, I just couldn't do that to them, I couldn't do it to myself.

Caving is a decision, staying quit is a decision. Both are easy to make, the difference is what's inside...
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Kubiak on December 06, 2012, 08:50:00 AM
Quote from: Bruce
Quote from: Kubiak
It felt wrong to put this directly into SWJ's intro thread, but this is still my opinion so I have to say it...

I just found this thread (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6168) on my day 129.  Sure those stories are funny, but also long and self-absorbed.  I'm really happy that I never read this early in my quit, because the moral of the story is that no matter how much support you get, no matter how much you want to quit, it's still easy to cave.  And I didn't need the negativity early on.  I would not have done well seeing how much people looked up to this guy for being funny ha ha quit story guy. 

I feel like now, the timing is perfect, because I just went through a monumental funk, not a depression funk but a 3-day crave that was set off with a vivid dip dream so real that i swear i actually caved in my sleep and woke up with a day 1.  So just like a dip dream, i get to read how bad it would suck to cave, how shitty it would be to shit all over your quit brothers and come crawling back in here to try and justify another quit.  How much of a shitstorm is caused when half your fellow quitters have a hard time forgiving you.

Thank you funny afro guy for letting me know how shitty it is to cave.

this thread (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6168)
Good post, but I disagree that it's 'easy to cave'. For me, it would be hard as fuck to cave. Sure it's easy to go buy a can and throw one in, but that's not what I'm talking about. Facing my 'inner circle' would be impossible...i couldn't do it. Not the shit storm I would get from the site because, to be honest, most of the ones who would be throwing stones have done shit for my quit. But the Mcarmo's, bwb's, Roam's, 2mch's, Swede's, Sud's, Evil's, Crockett's, Morgan's and more importantly myself that I would have to face and I don't want to put myself in that situation. The shame/hurt and betrayal that I felt when one close to me drifted and cave, I just couldn't do that to them, I couldn't do it to myself.

Caving is a decision, staying quit is a decision. Both are easy to make, the difference is what's inside...
Bruce, thanks for the feedback. I think what I mean is that it is very easy to cave because deep down we are all still addicts, and unless we actively quit every day, it is very easy to cave. That guy made a choice to walk away from KTC with the intent of caving. He even told everyone that he could if he wanted to. So now that I think of it, this is where we put on our big boy pants and decide, do we really want to be quit, or are we gonna look for an excuse? That's where you decided it's easy to quit Bruce, your big boy pants are on and quitting. My big boy pants are still one size big and I'm growing into them. Which is fine, that means there's room to reach in and play a little.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Scowick65 on December 06, 2012, 01:35:00 PM
Quote from: Kubiak
Quote from: Bruce
Quote from: Kubiak
It felt wrong to put this directly into SWJ's intro thread, but this is still my opinion so I have to say it...

I just found this thread (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6168) on my day 129.  Sure those stories are funny, but also long and self-absorbed.  I'm really happy that I never read this early in my quit, because the moral of the story is that no matter how much support you get, no matter how much you want to quit, it's still easy to cave.  And I didn't need the negativity early on.  I would not have done well seeing how much people looked up to this guy for being funny ha ha quit story guy. 

I feel like now, the timing is perfect, because I just went through a monumental funk, not a depression funk but a 3-day crave that was set off with a vivid dip dream so real that i swear i actually caved in my sleep and woke up with a day 1.  So just like a dip dream, i get to read how bad it would suck to cave, how shitty it would be to shit all over your quit brothers and come crawling back in here to try and justify another quit.  How much of a shitstorm is caused when half your fellow quitters have a hard time forgiving you.

Thank you funny afro guy for letting me know how shitty it is to cave.

this thread (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6168)
Good post, but I disagree that it's 'easy to cave'. For me, it would be hard as fuck to cave. Sure it's easy to go buy a can and throw one in, but that's not what I'm talking about. Facing my 'inner circle' would be impossible...i couldn't do it. Not the shit storm I would get from the site because, to be honest, most of the ones who would be throwing stones have done shit for my quit. But the Mcarmo's, bwb's, Roam's, 2mch's, Swede's, Sud's, Evil's, Crockett's, Morgan's and more importantly myself that I would have to face and I don't want to put myself in that situation. The shame/hurt and betrayal that I felt when one close to me drifted and cave, I just couldn't do that to them, I couldn't do it to myself.

Caving is a decision, staying quit is a decision. Both are easy to make, the difference is what's inside...
Bruce, thanks for the feedback. I think what I mean is that it is very easy to cave because deep down we are all still addicts, and unless we actively quit every day, it is very easy to cave. That guy made a choice to walk away from KTC with the intent of caving. He even told everyone that he could if he wanted to. So now that I think of it, this is where we put on our big boy pants and decide, do we really want to be quit, or are we gonna look for an excuse? That's where you decided it's easy to quit Bruce, your big boy pants are on and quitting. My big boy pants are still one size big and I'm growing into them. Which is fine, that means there's room to reach in and play a little.
Just remember Kubiak. You can only cave after talking to me. Until then keep up the great work.

PS.

FU nic.

Love,

Scodaddy.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Kubiak on December 07, 2012, 01:02:00 PM
No Cave Here!!! The best part of going through a funk, or a crave, or a "wow i am a piece of shit addict" phase is that when you get through it, and believe me you do get through it, is the the other side is GLOOOOORIOUS!!!

Religion preaches that difficult times strengthen your faith. Putting fire to steel and beating on it with a hammer makes the steel stronger. Same goes for quit.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Kubiak on December 10, 2012, 01:43:00 PM
Asshats, attention whores and stubborn bastards. That's what I see. I won't name names, but I think if any of us aren't careful, we could end up as one of these three:

1. Asshats - just generally an asshole, but not covered by pants. You wear your ass on your head for all to see.

2. Attention whores - you go away just long enough for people to notice you're gone, and then come back bit by bit in ways that people notice you're back. If no one notices, do something outrageous to get noticed.

3. Stubborn bastards - post roll only once in awhile so people know you haven't caved, but be stubborn enough to not follow the program. Make sure you get the help you need here, but also quit your own way.

All of these people drive me fucking crazy. I will admit that I have fallen into the asshat category, but that is another topic - HYPOCRITE. He was one of the founders of modern medicine and we can all look up to him.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Kubiak on December 12, 2012, 08:44:00 AM
Tomorrow is my first dentist appointment since my quit 136 days ago. My last visit was the last time I quit 4 years ago, and I recall hearing "we'll have to watch these receding gums, you may need a graft" and "we'll have to watch this on your cheek, if that doesn't heal we may need to check it out" which essentially means check for cancer. I was convinced it would heal. I think it's healed. I worry about it. I also worry about the next crap i'm gonna take, hoping it's not a bowling pin, but regardless i'm worried about the dentist. At least I am quit. Whatever they have for me tomorrow, I won't be making it worse with poison turds.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: SirDerek on December 12, 2012, 09:03:00 AM
Quote from: Kubiak
Tomorrow is my first dentist appointment since my quit 136 days ago. My last visit was the last time I quit 4 years ago, and I recall hearing "we'll have to watch these receding gums, you may need a graft" and "we'll have to watch this on your cheek, if that doesn't heal we may need to check it out" which essentially means check for cancer. I was convinced it would heal. I think it's healed. I worry about it. I also worry about the next crap i'm gonna take, hoping it's not a bowling pin, but regardless i'm worried about the dentist. At least I am quit. Whatever they have for me tomorrow, I won't be making it worse with poison turds.
good luck man, I am awaiting my time to return to the dentist as well....
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: beenthere on December 12, 2012, 10:11:00 AM
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: Kubiak
Tomorrow is my first dentist appointment since my quit 136 days ago.  My last visit was the last time I quit 4 years ago, and I recall hearing "we'll have to watch these receding gums, you may need a graft" and "we'll have to watch this on your cheek, if that doesn't heal we may need to check it out" which essentially means check for cancer.  I was convinced it would heal.  I think it's healed.  I worry about it.  I also worry about the next crap i'm gonna take, hoping it's not a bowling pin, but regardless i'm worried about the dentist.  At least I am quit.  Whatever they have for me tomorrow, I won't be making it worse with poison turds.
good luck man, I am awaiting my time to return to the dentist as well....
Good luck man, I'm sure things will be alright.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Kubiak on December 12, 2012, 10:23:00 AM
Quote from: beenthere
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: Kubiak
Tomorrow is my first dentist appointment since my quit 136 days ago.  My last visit was the last time I quit 4 years ago, and I recall hearing "we'll have to watch these receding gums, you may need a graft" and "we'll have to watch this on your cheek, if that doesn't heal we may need to check it out" which essentially means check for cancer.  I was convinced it would heal.  I think it's healed.  I worry about it.  I also worry about the next crap i'm gonna take, hoping it's not a bowling pin, but regardless i'm worried about the dentist.  At least I am quit.  Whatever they have for me tomorrow, I won't be making it worse with poison turds.
good luck man, I am awaiting my time to return to the dentist as well....
Good luck man, I'm sure things will be alright.
I know it's OK to be nervous, I also know that you don't know until you go, and then when you go, you'll know, so it isn't worth being nervous until you know when you go. Otherwise it's not knowing that makes you nervous. If ya get bad news, then that's something to worry about.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: ERDVM on December 12, 2012, 11:02:00 AM
Quote from: Kubiak
Quote from: beenthere
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: Kubiak
Tomorrow is my first dentist appointment since my quit 136 days ago.  My last visit was the last time I quit 4 years ago, and I recall hearing "we'll have to watch these receding gums, you may need a graft" and "we'll have to watch this on your cheek, if that doesn't heal we may need to check it out" which essentially means check for cancer.  I was convinced it would heal.  I think it's healed.  I worry about it.  I also worry about the next crap i'm gonna take, hoping it's not a bowling pin, but regardless i'm worried about the dentist.  At least I am quit.  Whatever they have for me tomorrow, I won't be making it worse with poison turds.
good luck man, I am awaiting my time to return to the dentist as well....
Good luck man, I'm sure things will be alright.
I know it's OK to be nervous, I also know that you don't know until you go, and then when you go, you'll know, so it isn't worth being nervous until you know when you go. Otherwise it's not knowing that makes you nervous. If ya get bad news, then that's something to worry about.
I know that you used the word "know" 5x in that paragraph. 'arse'

Serially, I can tell you are just verbalizing some angst. Which, is normal. Ask your dentist to be honest. Hell, if you haven't been in 4 years...there will be some issues that are probably not even related to your poison addiction. I think we have all heard the "gum graft biopsy threat". The only thing you can do is stay quit and face it head-on. You have quit a highly addictive poison for over 100 days. You are quit today. I think you can face your dentist.

Vadge
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Coach Steve on December 12, 2012, 11:41:00 AM
Quote from: ERDVM
Quote from: Kubiak
Quote from: beenthere
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: Kubiak
Tomorrow is my first dentist appointment since my quit 136 days ago.  My last visit was the last time I quit 4 years ago, and I recall hearing "we'll have to watch these receding gums, you may need a graft" and "we'll have to watch this on your cheek, if that doesn't heal we may need to check it out" which essentially means check for cancer.  I was convinced it would heal.  I think it's healed.  I worry about it.  I also worry about the next crap i'm gonna take, hoping it's not a bowling pin, but regardless i'm worried about the dentist.  At least I am quit.  Whatever they have for me tomorrow, I won't be making it worse with poison turds.
good luck man, I am awaiting my time to return to the dentist as well....
Good luck man, I'm sure things will be alright.
I know it's OK to be nervous, I also know that you don't know until you go, and then when you go, you'll know, so it isn't worth being nervous until you know when you go. Otherwise it's not knowing that makes you nervous. If ya get bad news, then that's something to worry about.
I know that you used the word "know" 5x in that paragraph. 'arse'

Serially, I can tell you are just verbalizing some angst. Which, is normal. Ask your dentist to be honest. Hell, if you haven't been in 4 years...there will be some issues that are probably not even related to your poison addiction. I think we have all heard the "gum graft biopsy threat". The only thing you can do is stay quit and face it head-on. You have quit a highly addictive poison for over 100 days. You are quit today. I think you can face your dentist.

Vadge
My quit started with a trip to the dentist. I've told this story several times. The dentist pulled the whole, "you may need to get a biopsy" crap after my cleaning. Scared my ass straight. I've been back once since then, and I was damn proud not to have to take any shit from this guy for being a dipper. I'm also pretty sure the dentist was full of shit. If he really believed I had cancer or needed a biopsy, he would have noted it on my chart and asked me about it on my next appointment...or at least taken the time to check it out. Nope, none of that, just the usual, "teeth look great!" I'm like, "yeah, fuck you buddy....but thanks for what you did."
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: wastepanel on December 12, 2012, 12:22:00 PM
Quote from: Coach
Quote from: ERDVM
Quote from: Kubiak
Quote from: beenthere
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: Kubiak
Tomorrow is my first dentist appointment since my quit 136 days ago.  My last visit was the last time I quit 4 years ago, and I recall hearing "we'll have to watch these receding gums, you may need a graft" and "we'll have to watch this on your cheek, if that doesn't heal we may need to check it out" which essentially means check for cancer.  I was convinced it would heal.  I think it's healed.  I worry about it.  I also worry about the next crap i'm gonna take, hoping it's not a bowling pin, but regardless i'm worried about the dentist.  At least I am quit.  Whatever they have for me tomorrow, I won't be making it worse with poison turds.
good luck man, I am awaiting my time to return to the dentist as well....
Good luck man, I'm sure things will be alright.
I know it's OK to be nervous, I also know that you don't know until you go, and then when you go, you'll know, so it isn't worth being nervous until you know when you go. Otherwise it's not knowing that makes you nervous. If ya get bad news, then that's something to worry about.
I know that you used the word "know" 5x in that paragraph. 'arse'

Serially, I can tell you are just verbalizing some angst. Which, is normal. Ask your dentist to be honest. Hell, if you haven't been in 4 years...there will be some issues that are probably not even related to your poison addiction. I think we have all heard the "gum graft biopsy threat". The only thing you can do is stay quit and face it head-on. You have quit a highly addictive poison for over 100 days. You are quit today. I think you can face your dentist.

Vadge
My quit started with a trip to the dentist. I've told this story several times. The dentist pulled the whole, "you may need to get a biopsy" crap after my cleaning. Scared my ass straight. I've been back once since then, and I was damn proud not to have to take any shit from this guy for being a dipper. I'm also pretty sure the dentist was full of shit. If he really believed I had cancer or needed a biopsy, he would have noted it on my chart and asked me about it on my next appointment...or at least taken the time to check it out. Nope, none of that, just the usual, "teeth look great!" I'm like, "yeah, fuck you buddy....but thanks for what you did."
You should definately take a book of your narratives into his office as reading material.

Maybe with that little dedication there.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Grizzly25 on December 12, 2012, 01:04:00 PM
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: Coach
Quote from: ERDVM
Quote from: Kubiak
Quote from: beenthere
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: Kubiak
Tomorrow is my first dentist appointment since my quit 136 days ago.  My last visit was the last time I quit 4 years ago, and I recall hearing "we'll have to watch these receding gums, you may need a graft" and "we'll have to watch this on your cheek, if that doesn't heal we may need to check it out" which essentially means check for cancer.  I was convinced it would heal.  I think it's healed.  I worry about it.  I also worry about the next crap i'm gonna take, hoping it's not a bowling pin, but regardless i'm worried about the dentist.  At least I am quit.  Whatever they have for me tomorrow, I won't be making it worse with poison turds.
good luck man, I am awaiting my time to return to the dentist as well....
Good luck man, I'm sure things will be alright.
I know it's OK to be nervous, I also know that you don't know until you go, and then when you go, you'll know, so it isn't worth being nervous until you know when you go. Otherwise it's not knowing that makes you nervous. If ya get bad news, then that's something to worry about.
I know that you used the word "know" 5x in that paragraph. 'arse'

Serially, I can tell you are just verbalizing some angst. Which, is normal. Ask your dentist to be honest. Hell, if you haven't been in 4 years...there will be some issues that are probably not even related to your poison addiction. I think we have all heard the "gum graft biopsy threat". The only thing you can do is stay quit and face it head-on. You have quit a highly addictive poison for over 100 days. You are quit today. I think you can face your dentist.

Vadge
My quit started with a trip to the dentist. I've told this story several times. The dentist pulled the whole, "you may need to get a biopsy" crap after my cleaning. Scared my ass straight. I've been back once since then, and I was damn proud not to have to take any shit from this guy for being a dipper. I'm also pretty sure the dentist was full of shit. If he really believed I had cancer or needed a biopsy, he would have noted it on my chart and asked me about it on my next appointment...or at least taken the time to check it out. Nope, none of that, just the usual, "teeth look great!" I'm like, "yeah, fuck you buddy....but thanks for what you did."
You should definately take a book of your narratives into his office as reading material.

Maybe with that little dedication there.
UGH!!!! Who likes going to the dentist......?

Good luck brother, my quit started with a trip to the dentist like many other on here.

Keep us updated on the good or the bad brother.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: TSNUS on December 13, 2012, 08:28:00 AM
Quote from: Grizzly25
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: Coach
Quote from: ERDVM
Quote from: Kubiak
Quote from: beenthere
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: Kubiak
Tomorrow is my first dentist appointment since my quit 136 days ago.  My last visit was the last time I quit 4 years ago, and I recall hearing "we'll have to watch these receding gums, you may need a graft" and "we'll have to watch this on your cheek, if that doesn't heal we may need to check it out" which essentially means check for cancer.  I was convinced it would heal.  I think it's healed.  I worry about it.  I also worry about the next crap i'm gonna take, hoping it's not a bowling pin, but regardless i'm worried about the dentist.  At least I am quit.  Whatever they have for me tomorrow, I won't be making it worse with poison turds.
good luck man, I am awaiting my time to return to the dentist as well....
Good luck man, I'm sure things will be alright.
I know it's OK to be nervous, I also know that you don't know until you go, and then when you go, you'll know, so it isn't worth being nervous until you know when you go. Otherwise it's not knowing that makes you nervous. If ya get bad news, then that's something to worry about.
I know that you used the word "know" 5x in that paragraph. 'arse'

Serially, I can tell you are just verbalizing some angst. Which, is normal. Ask your dentist to be honest. Hell, if you haven't been in 4 years...there will be some issues that are probably not even related to your poison addiction. I think we have all heard the "gum graft biopsy threat". The only thing you can do is stay quit and face it head-on. You have quit a highly addictive poison for over 100 days. You are quit today. I think you can face your dentist.

Vadge
My quit started with a trip to the dentist. I've told this story several times. The dentist pulled the whole, "you may need to get a biopsy" crap after my cleaning. Scared my ass straight. I've been back once since then, and I was damn proud not to have to take any shit from this guy for being a dipper. I'm also pretty sure the dentist was full of shit. If he really believed I had cancer or needed a biopsy, he would have noted it on my chart and asked me about it on my next appointment...or at least taken the time to check it out. Nope, none of that, just the usual, "teeth look great!" I'm like, "yeah, fuck you buddy....but thanks for what you did."
You should definately take a book of your narratives into his office as reading material.

Maybe with that little dedication there.
UGH!!!! Who likes going to the dentist......?

Good luck brother, my quit started with a trip to the dentist like many other on here.

Keep us updated on the good or the bad brother.
Same here on my right lower. I've read gum stimulation can help, but mine haven't done much either way. Thinking about trying an electric toothbrush, supposed to be good for gum health. Keep us posted and I hope things are good.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Kubiak on December 14, 2012, 08:20:00 AM
OK I have to get a few things off my chest, and then I'm gonna try to be productive today for a change. It's been a rough week in quittersville, not that my quit is struggling, just the things that go along with being quit.

Dentist yesterday. My last visit in 2009 was the last time I was quit. I got abused by the dentist lady about chew so I never went back. This time new lady, but I can't believe her dumb ass aked me questions about HOW LONG DID YOU USE CHEWING TOBACCO right in front of my 9 year old. No fucking way lady. Then she goes on to tell me I need a referral for some questionable spots on the back left side of my tongue and the inside of my right cheek. WHERE DID YOU PUT THE CHEWING TOBACCO MOST FREQUENTLY? I swear I almost grabbed her by the throat. I just mumbled "I'm not gonna get into that right now can we move on". She finally got the hint, and then told me that the referral is mostly precautionary, that she's not an expert, bla bla bla. January 16th I'll see the expert.

November 2012 needs a fresh start. We never voted on being called cuntface, it just kinda grew on us, so I feel that if we all vote on a new name, that would help. Personally I feel that Cuntface is far too self-deprecating for the badass quitters we have, but if the group votes for cuntface, then i'll be a cuntface. I supported The Caver's shenanigans without the benefit of foresight, but from the start it was a
test of boundaries. At some point, if all the boundaries are pushed, then there's nothing left and it's not a quit group. This KTC that we all rely on is about quitting tobacco period.

Weird week. Regardless of anything, whether it be something in my mouth or some asshole caver that wants to hold my quit and my support hostage with threats of suicide, NEVER AGAIN FOR ANY REASON.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Mike17 on December 14, 2012, 08:28:00 AM
Quote from: Kubiak
OK I have to get a few things off my chest, and then I'm gonna try to be productive today for a change. It's been a rough week in quittersville, not that my quit is struggling, just the things that go along with being quit.

Dentist yesterday. My last visit in 2009 was the last time I was quit. I got abused by the dentist lady about chew so I never went back. This time new lady, but I can't believe her dumb ass aked me questions about HOW LONG DID YOU USE CHEWING TOBACCO right in front of my 9 year old. No fucking way lady. Then she goes on to tell me I need a referral for some questionable spots on the back left side of my tongue and the inside of my right cheek. WHERE DID YOU PUT THE CHEWING TOBACCO MOST FREQUENTLY? I swear I almost grabbed her by the throat. I just mumbled "I'm not gonna get into that right now can we move on". She finally got the hint, and then told me that the referral is mostly precautionary, that she's not an expert, bla bla bla. January 16th I'll see the expert.

November 2012 needs a fresh start. We never voted on being called cuntface, it just kinda grew on us, so I feel that if we all vote on a new name, that would help. Personally I feel that Cuntface is far too self-deprecating for the badass quitters we have, but if the group votes for cuntface, then i'll be a cuntface. I supported The Caver's shenanigans without the benefit of foresight, but from the start it was a
test of boundaries. At some point, if all the boundaries are pushed, then there's nothing left and it's not a quit group. This KTC that we all rely on is about quitting tobacco period.

Weird week. Regardless of anything, whether it be something in my mouth or some asshole caver that wants to hold my quit and my support hostage with threats of suicide, NEVER AGAIN FOR ANY REASON.
Those last 5 words sum it up perfectly kub. I know what you mean November has been weird as fuck but the real quitters know who they are.

Dentist appointment for me after I quit was scary as hell but I took the guys word that everything was good. You'll be fine bro. Keep quitting like you know and love!
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Coach Steve on December 14, 2012, 08:47:00 AM
Quote from: Mike17
Quote from: Kubiak
OK I have to get a few things off my chest, and then I'm gonna try to be productive today for a change.  It's been a rough week in quittersville, not that my quit is struggling, just the things that go along with being quit.

Dentist yesterday.  My last visit in 2009 was the last time I was quit.  I got abused by the dentist lady about chew so I never went back.  This time new lady, but I can't believe her dumb ass aked me questions about HOW LONG DID YOU USE CHEWING TOBACCO right in front of my 9 year old.  No fucking way lady.  Then she goes on to tell me I need a referral for some questionable spots on the back left side of my tongue and the inside of my right cheek.  WHERE DID YOU PUT THE CHEWING TOBACCO MOST FREQUENTLY?  I swear I almost grabbed her by the throat.  I just mumbled "I'm not gonna get into that right now can we move on". She finally got the hint, and then told me that the referral is mostly precautionary, that she's not an expert, bla bla bla.  January 16th I'll see the expert.

November 2012 needs a fresh start.  We never voted on being called cuntface, it just kinda grew on us, so I feel that if we all vote on a new name, that would help.  Personally I feel that Cuntface is far too self-deprecating for the badass quitters we have, but if the group votes for cuntface, then i'll be a cuntface.  I supported The Caver's shenanigans without the benefit of foresight, but from the start it was a
test of boundaries.  At some point, if all the boundaries are pushed, then there's nothing left and it's not a quit group.  This KTC that we all rely on is about quitting tobacco period. 

Weird week.  Regardless of anything, whether it be something in my mouth or some asshole caver that wants to hold my quit and my support hostage with threats of suicide, NEVER AGAIN FOR ANY REASON.
Those last 5 words sum it up perfectly kub. I know what you mean November has been weird as fuck but the real quitters know who they are.

Dentist appointment for me after I quit was scary as hell but I took the guys word that everything was good. You'll be fine bro. Keep quitting like you know and love!
I wouldn't say Cuntface "grew on your group." I'd say it was forced on your group.

You guys and ladies need to find your own identity. I don't think your previous ruler permitted such free thinking. If it were me, I'd wipe the whole slate clean starting with that "fancy" roll page.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Suds on December 14, 2012, 08:54:00 AM
Quote from: Mike17
Quote from: Kubiak
OK I have to get a few things off my chest, and then I'm gonna try to be productive today for a change.  It's been a rough week in quittersville, not that my quit is struggling, just the things that go along with being quit.

Dentist yesterday.  My last visit in 2009 was the last time I was quit.  I got abused by the dentist lady about chew so I never went back.  This time new lady, but I can't believe her dumb ass aked me questions about HOW LONG DID YOU USE CHEWING TOBACCO right in front of my 9 year old.  No fucking way lady.  Then she goes on to tell me I need a referral for some questionable spots on the back left side of my tongue and the inside of my right cheek.  WHERE DID YOU PUT THE CHEWING TOBACCO MOST FREQUENTLY?  I swear I almost grabbed her by the throat.  I just mumbled "I'm not gonna get into that right now can we move on". She finally got the hint, and then told me that the referral is mostly precautionary, that she's not an expert, bla bla bla.  January 16th I'll see the expert.

November 2012 needs a fresh start.  We never voted on being called cuntface, it just kinda grew on us, so I feel that if we all vote on a new name, that would help.  Personally I feel that Cuntface is far too self-deprecating for the badass quitters we have, but if the group votes for cuntface, then i'll be a cuntface.  I supported The Caver's shenanigans without the benefit of foresight, but from the start it was a
test of boundaries.  At some point, if all the boundaries are pushed, then there's nothing left and it's not a quit group.  This KTC that we all rely on is about quitting tobacco period. 

Weird week.  Regardless of anything, whether it be something in my mouth or some asshole caver that wants to hold my quit and my support hostage with threats of suicide, NEVER AGAIN FOR ANY REASON.
Those last 5 words sum it up perfectly kub. I know what you mean November has been weird as fuck but the real quitters know who they are.

Dentist appointment for me after I quit was scary as hell but I took the guys word that everything was good. You'll be fine bro. Keep quitting like you know and love!
Weird week yeah i hear ya amigo, proud as hell to be quit with you and the rest of november though. you will be in my thoughts and prayers until you see the expert and he says your fine. Keep up the excellent quittin and I will see you around.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Mike17 on December 14, 2012, 09:45:00 AM
Quote from: Coach
Quote from: Mike17
Quote from: Kubiak
OK I have to get a few things off my chest, and then I'm gonna try to be productive today for a change.  It's been a rough week in quittersville, not that my quit is struggling, just the things that go along with being quit.

Dentist yesterday.  My last visit in 2009 was the last time I was quit.  I got abused by the dentist lady about chew so I never went back.  This time new lady, but I can't believe her dumb ass aked me questions about HOW LONG DID YOU USE CHEWING TOBACCO right in front of my 9 year old.  No fucking way lady.  Then she goes on to tell me I need a referral for some questionable spots on the back left side of my tongue and the inside of my right cheek.  WHERE DID YOU PUT THE CHEWING TOBACCO MOST FREQUENTLY?  I swear I almost grabbed her by the throat.  I just mumbled "I'm not gonna get into that right now can we move on". She finally got the hint, and then told me that the referral is mostly precautionary, that she's not an expert, bla bla bla.  January 16th I'll see the expert.

November 2012 needs a fresh start.  We never voted on being called cuntface, it just kinda grew on us, so I feel that if we all vote on a new name, that would help.  Personally I feel that Cuntface is far too self-deprecating for the badass quitters we have, but if the group votes for cuntface, then i'll be a cuntface.  I supported The Caver's shenanigans without the benefit of foresight, but from the start it was a
test of boundaries.  At some point, if all the boundaries are pushed, then there's nothing left and it's not a quit group.  This KTC that we all rely on is about quitting tobacco period. 

Weird week.  Regardless of anything, whether it be something in my mouth or some asshole caver that wants to hold my quit and my support hostage with threats of suicide, NEVER AGAIN FOR ANY REASON.
Those last 5 words sum it up perfectly kub. I know what you mean November has been weird as fuck but the real quitters know who they are.

Dentist appointment for me after I quit was scary as hell but I took the guys word that everything was good. You'll be fine bro. Keep quitting like you know and love!
I wouldn't say Cuntface "grew on your group." I'd say it was forced on your group.

You guys and ladies need to find your own identity. I don't think your previous ruler permitted such free thinking. If it were me, I'd wipe the whole slate clean starting with that "fancy" roll page.
I think you hit the nail on the head right there coach
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: 30isEnuff on December 14, 2012, 12:11:00 PM
Quote from: Mike17
Quote from: Coach
Quote from: Mike17
Quote from: Kubiak
OK I have to get a few things off my chest, and then I'm gonna try to be productive today for a change.  It's been a rough week in quittersville, not that my quit is struggling, just the things that go along with being quit.

Dentist yesterday.  My last visit in 2009 was the last time I was quit.  I got abused by the dentist lady about chew so I never went back.  This time new lady, but I can't believe her dumb ass aked me questions about HOW LONG DID YOU USE CHEWING TOBACCO right in front of my 9 year old.  No fucking way lady.  Then she goes on to tell me I need a referral for some questionable spots on the back left side of my tongue and the inside of my right cheek.  WHERE DID YOU PUT THE CHEWING TOBACCO MOST FREQUENTLY?  I swear I almost grabbed her by the throat.  I just mumbled "I'm not gonna get into that right now can we move on". She finally got the hint, and then told me that the referral is mostly precautionary, that she's not an expert, bla bla bla.  January 16th I'll see the expert.

November 2012 needs a fresh start.  We never voted on being called cuntface, it just kinda grew on us, so I feel that if we all vote on a new name, that would help.  Personally I feel that Cuntface is far too self-deprecating for the badass quitters we have, but if the group votes for cuntface, then i'll be a cuntface.  I supported The Caver's shenanigans without the benefit of foresight, but from the start it was a
test of boundaries.  At some point, if all the boundaries are pushed, then there's nothing left and it's not a quit group.  This KTC that we all rely on is about quitting tobacco period. 

Weird week.  Regardless of anything, whether it be something in my mouth or some asshole caver that wants to hold my quit and my support hostage with threats of suicide, NEVER AGAIN FOR ANY REASON.
Those last 5 words sum it up perfectly kub. I know what you mean November has been weird as fuck but the real quitters know who they are.

Dentist appointment for me after I quit was scary as hell but I took the guys word that everything was good. You'll be fine bro. Keep quitting like you know and love!
I wouldn't say Cuntface "grew on your group." I'd say it was forced on your group.

You guys and ladies need to find your own identity. I don't think your previous ruler permitted such free thinking. If it were me, I'd wipe the whole slate clean starting with that "fancy" roll page.
I think you hit the nail on the head right there coach
NAFAR Quit with you Brother Kubiak!! 'bang head'
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Kubiak on December 22, 2012, 09:47:00 PM
Day 146- I posted a victory in TELOTQG or wherever the fuck truckerick calls home. It felt good. I may start doing that on tough days- victory post. End of the day, proclaim my win. Tomorrow- new day, new battle, new chance at victory!!
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Kubiak on December 27, 2012, 10:40:00 AM
Anyone notice someone dipping just by the smell? The smell is so fucking strong. Is it just my addict nose, or did everyone else smell that shit when I was ninja dipping? Thought of the day on day 151.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: tarpon17 on December 27, 2012, 10:56:00 AM
Quote from: Kubiak
Anyone notice someone dipping just by the smell? The smell is so fucking strong. Is it just my addict nose, or did everyone else smell that shit when I was ninja dipping? Thought of the day on day 151.
my father in laws wg rooster shit across the room. nasty
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: tarpon17 on December 27, 2012, 10:58:00 AM
Quote from: 30isEnuff
Quote from: Mike17
Quote from: Coach
Quote from: Mike17
Quote from: Kubiak
OK I have to get a few things off my chest, and then I'm gonna try to be productive today for a change.  It's been a rough week in quittersville, not that my quit is struggling, just the things that go along with being quit.

Dentist yesterday.  My last visit in 2009 was the last time I was quit.  I got abused by the dentist lady about chew so I never went back.  This time new lady, but I can't believe her dumb ass aked me questions about HOW LONG DID YOU USE CHEWING TOBACCO right in front of my 9 year old.  No fucking way lady.  Then she goes on to tell me I need a referral for some questionable spots on the back left side of my tongue and the inside of my right cheek.  WHERE DID YOU PUT THE CHEWING TOBACCO MOST FREQUENTLY?  I swear I almost grabbed her by the throat.  I just mumbled "I'm not gonna get into that right now can we move on". She finally got the hint, and then told me that the referral is mostly precautionary, that she's not an expert, bla bla bla.  January 16th I'll see the expert.

November 2012 needs a fresh start.  We never voted on being called cuntface, it just kinda grew on us, so I feel that if we all vote on a new name, that would help.  Personally I feel that Cuntface is far too self-deprecating for the badass quitters we have, but if the group votes for cuntface, then i'll be a cuntface.  I supported The Caver's shenanigans without the benefit of foresight, but from the start it was a
test of boundaries.  At some point, if all the boundaries are pushed, then there's nothing left and it's not a quit group.  This KTC that we all rely on is about quitting tobacco period. 

Weird week.  Regardless of anything, whether it be something in my mouth or some asshole caver that wants to hold my quit and my support hostage with threats of suicide, NEVER AGAIN FOR ANY REASON.
Those last 5 words sum it up perfectly kub. I know what you mean November has been weird as fuck but the real quitters know who they are.

Dentist appointment for me after I quit was scary as hell but I took the guys word that everything was good. You'll be fine bro. Keep quitting like you know and love!
I wouldn't say Cuntface "grew on your group." I'd say it was forced on your group.

You guys and ladies need to find your own identity. I don't think your previous ruler permitted such free thinking. If it were me, I'd wipe the whole slate clean starting with that "fancy" roll page.
I think you hit the nail on the head right there coach
NAFAR Quit with you Brother Kubiak!! 'bang head'
NAFAR! I like it, carry on bad asses
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Kubiak on January 16, 2013, 01:40:00 PM
How I posted January 16th on my intro page but wrote January 10th on my calendar is beyond me... I can only blame the fog of quit. Speaking of which, I can only blame my rash of recent crazy posts on the nervousness of today's appointment with the periodontist, because since I showed up at the dentist last Thursday all worked up in a lather and being told it was "next wednesday", I've had to get nervous for this fucking thing twice!!

So bottom line is... 4 gum grafts, two on each side right where I put those little soul-sucking parasite devils, and one biopsy. That's right. Now this doctor said it looked "better in there" than what the dentist described, that my tongue looked ok, but on the inside cheek there was a white spot that was worrisome, that he thinks is ok but "we should get it checked out just to be sure". I specifically asked if the biopsy is because he saw something or if it's my history of chewing tobacco use, and he said it's because of the tobacco use, that we should make sure it's nothing, that if I didn't have the tobacco use he wouldn't be worried. Well saying sure let's do it is easy, but that fucker's $500!! And not covered by insurance (checking on that). And the gum grafts are another $2,300!!! Fucking asshole nicotine. All that goddamn savings $4/day for 171 days pays for the biopsy and I have another couple of years to recognize the graft costs. I'm so fucking pissed. Sure cut my mouth up and patch my gum at my tooth, that's fine, but now the bitch is gonna have my wife worried about cancer until the biopsy is done. I'm debating if I should go it alone and not tell her until we get the test done. Like all well made decisions, I will be sleeping on it.

Kubiak Out.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: kana on January 17, 2013, 11:48:00 AM
Quote from: Kubiak
How I posted January 16th on my intro page but wrote January 10th on my calendar is beyond me... I can only blame the fog of quit. Speaking of which, I can only blame my rash of recent crazy posts on the nervousness of today's appointment with the periodontist, because since I showed up at the dentist last Thursday all worked up in a lather and being told it was "next wednesday", I've had to get nervous for this fucking thing twice!!

So bottom line is... 4 gum grafts, two on each side right where I put those little soul-sucking parasite devils, and one biopsy. That's right. Now this doctor said it looked "better in there" than what the dentist described, that my tongue looked ok, but on the inside cheek there was a white spot that was worrisome, that he thinks is ok but "we should get it checked out just to be sure". I specifically asked if the biopsy is because he saw something or if it's my history of chewing tobacco use, and he said it's because of the tobacco use, that we should make sure it's nothing, that if I didn't have the tobacco use he wouldn't be worried. Well saying sure let's do it is easy, but that fucker's $500!! And not covered by insurance (checking on that). And the gum grafts are another $2,300!!! Fucking asshole nicotine. All that goddamn savings $4/day for 171 days pays for the biopsy and I have another couple of years to recognize the graft costs. I'm so fucking pissed. Sure cut my mouth up and patch my gum at my tooth, that's fine, but now the bitch is gonna have my wife worried about cancer until the biopsy is done. I'm debating if I should go it alone and not tell her until we get the test done. Like all well made decisions, I will be sleeping on it.

Kubiak Out.
with you brother.. between the dentist and the dip cost me a effin fortune. Not to mention the wife's teeth too. I will be thinking about you pray that the visit goes well. main thing is you're in there and doing something about it, and you're quit. I personally would wait to tell her, but that's just my opinion. If everything is ok like we all want then you'll save her some stress.. stay strong brother, and yes I ALWAYS make a better decision after sleeping on it...peace
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Kubiak on January 17, 2013, 12:10:00 PM
Quote from: kana
Quote from: Kubiak
How I posted January 16th on my intro page but wrote January 10th on my calendar is beyond me... I can only blame the fog of quit.  Speaking of which, I can only blame my rash of recent crazy posts on the nervousness of today's appointment with the periodontist, because since I showed up at the dentist last Thursday all worked up in a lather and being told it was "next wednesday", I've had to get nervous for this fucking thing twice!!

So bottom line is... 4 gum grafts, two on each side right where I put those little soul-sucking parasite devils, and one biopsy.  That's right.  Now this doctor said it looked "better in there" than what the dentist described, that my tongue looked ok, but on the inside cheek there was a white spot that was worrisome, that he thinks is ok but "we should get it checked out just to be sure".  I specifically asked if the biopsy is because he saw something or if it's my history of chewing tobacco use, and he said it's because of the tobacco use, that we should make sure it's nothing, that if I didn't have the tobacco use he wouldn't be worried.  Well saying sure let's do it is easy, but that fucker's $500!!  And not covered by insurance (checking on that).  And the gum grafts are another $2,300!!!  Fucking asshole nicotine.  All that goddamn savings $4/day for 171 days pays for the biopsy and I have another couple of years to recognize the graft costs.  I'm so fucking pissed.  Sure cut my mouth up and patch my gum at my tooth, that's fine, but now the bitch is gonna have my wife worried about cancer until the biopsy is done.  I'm debating if I should go it alone and not tell her until we get the test done.  Like all well made decisions, I will be sleeping on it.

Kubiak Out.
with you brother.. between the dentist and the dip cost me a effin fortune. Not to mention the wife's teeth too. I will be thinking about you pray that the visit goes well. main thing is you're in there and doing something about it, and you're quit. I personally would wait to tell her, but that's just my opinion. If everything is ok like we all want then you'll save her some stress.. stay strong brother, and yes I ALWAYS make a better decision after sleeping on it...peace
Yup, glad I slept on it. I need to wait a few if I tell her, because my wife's grandma died over the weekend (pneumonia, 70's), her great aunt died yesterday (cancer, 70's), and her grandfather went into intensive care yesterday (internal bleeding, 92 years).

They say bad news comes in threes? Let's hope her grandpa pulls through this. Prayers for him would be appreciated. His name's Glen, until this year he lived in the farmhouse he bought in the 1950's with his wife, they've been married 65 years.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: 30yraddict on January 17, 2013, 12:14:00 PM
Quote from: Kubiak
Quote from: kana
Quote from: Kubiak
How I posted January 16th on my intro page but wrote January 10th on my calendar is beyond me... I can only blame the fog of quit.  Speaking of which, I can only blame my rash of recent crazy posts on the nervousness of today's appointment with the periodontist, because since I showed up at the dentist last Thursday all worked up in a lather and being told it was "next wednesday", I've had to get nervous for this fucking thing twice!!

So bottom line is... 4 gum grafts, two on each side right where I put those little soul-sucking parasite devils, and one biopsy.  That's right.  Now this doctor said it looked "better in there" than what the dentist described, that my tongue looked ok, but on the inside cheek there was a white spot that was worrisome, that he thinks is ok but "we should get it checked out just to be sure".  I specifically asked if the biopsy is because he saw something or if it's my history of chewing tobacco use, and he said it's because of the tobacco use, that we should make sure it's nothing, that if I didn't have the tobacco use he wouldn't be worried.  Well saying sure let's do it is easy, but that fucker's $500!!  And not covered by insurance (checking on that).  And the gum grafts are another $2,300!!!  Fucking asshole nicotine.  All that goddamn savings $4/day for 171 days pays for the biopsy and I have another couple of years to recognize the graft costs.  I'm so fucking pissed.  Sure cut my mouth up and patch my gum at my tooth, that's fine, but now the bitch is gonna have my wife worried about cancer until the biopsy is done.  I'm debating if I should go it alone and not tell her until we get the test done.  Like all well made decisions, I will be sleeping on it.

Kubiak Out.
with you brother.. between the dentist and the dip cost me a effin fortune. Not to mention the wife's teeth too. I will be thinking about you pray that the visit goes well. main thing is you're in there and doing something about it, and you're quit. I personally would wait to tell her, but that's just my opinion. If everything is ok like we all want then you'll save her some stress.. stay strong brother, and yes I ALWAYS make a better decision after sleeping on it...peace
Yup, glad I slept on it. I need to wait a few if I tell her, because my wife's grandma died over the weekend (pneumonia, 70's), her great aunt died yesterday (cancer, 70's), and her grandfather went into intensive care yesterday (internal bleeding, 92 years).

They say bad news comes in threes? Let's hope her grandpa pulls through this. Prayers for him would be appreciated. His name's Glen, until this year he lived in the farmhouse he bought in the 1950's with his wife, they've been married 65 years.
Prayers lifted for you all
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: mich 34 on January 19, 2013, 09:52:00 PM
Quote from: 30yrAddict
Quote from: Kubiak
Quote from: kana
Quote from: Kubiak
How I posted January 16th on my intro page but wrote January 10th on my calendar is beyond me... I can only blame the fog of quit.  Speaking of which, I can only blame my rash of recent crazy posts on the nervousness of today's appointment with the periodontist, because since I showed up at the dentist last Thursday all worked up in a lather and being told it was "next wednesday", I've had to get nervous for this fucking thing twice!!

So bottom line is... 4 gum grafts, two on each side right where I put those little soul-sucking parasite devils, and one biopsy.  That's right.  Now this doctor said it looked "better in there" than what the dentist described, that my tongue looked ok, but on the inside cheek there was a white spot that was worrisome, that he thinks is ok but "we should get it checked out just to be sure".  I specifically asked if the biopsy is because he saw something or if it's my history of chewing tobacco use, and he said it's because of the tobacco use, that we should make sure it's nothing, that if I didn't have the tobacco use he wouldn't be worried.  Well saying sure let's do it is easy, but that fucker's $500!!  And not covered by insurance (checking on that).  And the gum grafts are another $2,300!!!  Fucking asshole nicotine.  All that goddamn savings $4/day for 171 days pays for the biopsy and I have another couple of years to recognize the graft costs.  I'm so fucking pissed.  Sure cut my mouth up and patch my gum at my tooth, that's fine, but now the bitch is gonna have my wife worried about cancer until the biopsy is done.  I'm debating if I should go it alone and not tell her until we get the test done.  Like all well made decisions, I will be sleeping on it.

Kubiak Out.
with you brother.. between the dentist and the dip cost me a effin fortune. Not to mention the wife's teeth too. I will be thinking about you pray that the visit goes well. main thing is you're in there and doing something about it, and you're quit. I personally would wait to tell her, but that's just my opinion. If everything is ok like we all want then you'll save her some stress.. stay strong brother, and yes I ALWAYS make a better decision after sleeping on it...peace
Yup, glad I slept on it. I need to wait a few if I tell her, because my wife's grandma died over the weekend (pneumonia, 70's), her great aunt died yesterday (cancer, 70's), and her grandfather went into intensive care yesterday (internal bleeding, 92 years).

They say bad news comes in threes? Let's hope her grandpa pulls through this. Prayers for him would be appreciated. His name's Glen, until this year he lived in the farmhouse he bought in the 1950's with his wife, they've been married 65 years.
Prayers lifted for you all
Just saw this Kubiak, prayers for you and your family
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: TSNUS on January 20, 2013, 07:18:00 PM
Quote from: mich
Quote from: 30yrAddict
Quote from: Kubiak
Quote from: kana
Quote from: Kubiak
How I posted January 16th on my intro page but wrote January 10th on my calendar is beyond me... I can only blame the fog of quit.  Speaking of which, I can only blame my rash of recent crazy posts on the nervousness of today's appointment with the periodontist, because since I showed up at the dentist last Thursday all worked up in a lather and being told it was "next wednesday", I've had to get nervous for this fucking thing twice!!

So bottom line is... 4 gum grafts, two on each side right where I put those little soul-sucking parasite devils, and one biopsy.  That's right.  Now this doctor said it looked "better in there" than what the dentist described, that my tongue looked ok, but on the inside cheek there was a white spot that was worrisome, that he thinks is ok but "we should get it checked out just to be sure".  I specifically asked if the biopsy is because he saw something or if it's my history of chewing tobacco use, and he said it's because of the tobacco use, that we should make sure it's nothing, that if I didn't have the tobacco use he wouldn't be worried.  Well saying sure let's do it is easy, but that fucker's $500!!  And not covered by insurance (checking on that).  And the gum grafts are another $2,300!!!  Fucking asshole nicotine.  All that goddamn savings $4/day for 171 days pays for the biopsy and I have another couple of years to recognize the graft costs.  I'm so fucking pissed.  Sure cut my mouth up and patch my gum at my tooth, that's fine, but now the bitch is gonna have my wife worried about cancer until the biopsy is done.  I'm debating if I should go it alone and not tell her until we get the test done.  Like all well made decisions, I will be sleeping on it.

Kubiak Out.
with you brother.. between the dentist and the dip cost me a effin fortune. Not to mention the wife's teeth too. I will be thinking about you pray that the visit goes well. main thing is you're in there and doing something about it, and you're quit. I personally would wait to tell her, but that's just my opinion. If everything is ok like we all want then you'll save her some stress.. stay strong brother, and yes I ALWAYS make a better decision after sleeping on it...peace
Yup, glad I slept on it. I need to wait a few if I tell her, because my wife's grandma died over the weekend (pneumonia, 70's), her great aunt died yesterday (cancer, 70's), and her grandfather went into intensive care yesterday (internal bleeding, 92 years).

They say bad news comes in threes? Let's hope her grandpa pulls through this. Prayers for him would be appreciated. His name's Glen, until this year he lived in the farmhouse he bought in the 1950's with his wife, they've been married 65 years.
Prayers lifted for you all
Just saw this Kubiak, prayers for you and your family
Prayers for Glen and your biopsy brother Kub! Hang tough and know that we are here for you man.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: cdaniels on January 20, 2013, 07:36:00 PM
Quote from: TSNUS
Quote from: mich
Quote from: 30yrAddict
Quote from: Kubiak
Quote from: kana
Quote from: Kubiak
How I posted January 16th on my intro page but wrote January 10th on my calendar is beyond me... I can only blame the fog of quit.  Speaking of which, I can only blame my rash of recent crazy posts on the nervousness of today's appointment with the periodontist, because since I showed up at the dentist last Thursday all worked up in a lather and being told it was "next wednesday", I've had to get nervous for this fucking thing twice!!

So bottom line is... 4 gum grafts, two on each side right where I put those little soul-sucking parasite devils, and one biopsy.  That's right.  Now this doctor said it looked "better in there" than what the dentist described, that my tongue looked ok, but on the inside cheek there was a white spot that was worrisome, that he thinks is ok but "we should get it checked out just to be sure".  I specifically asked if the biopsy is because he saw something or if it's my history of chewing tobacco use, and he said it's because of the tobacco use, that we should make sure it's nothing, that if I didn't have the tobacco use he wouldn't be worried.  Well saying sure let's do it is easy, but that fucker's $500!!  And not covered by insurance (checking on that).  And the gum grafts are another $2,300!!!  Fucking asshole nicotine.  All that goddamn savings $4/day for 171 days pays for the biopsy and I have another couple of years to recognize the graft costs.  I'm so fucking pissed.  Sure cut my mouth up and patch my gum at my tooth, that's fine, but now the bitch is gonna have my wife worried about cancer until the biopsy is done.  I'm debating if I should go it alone and not tell her until we get the test done.  Like all well made decisions, I will be sleeping on it.

Kubiak Out.
with you brother.. between the dentist and the dip cost me a effin fortune. Not to mention the wife's teeth too. I will be thinking about you pray that the visit goes well. main thing is you're in there and doing something about it, and you're quit. I personally would wait to tell her, but that's just my opinion. If everything is ok like we all want then you'll save her some stress.. stay strong brother, and yes I ALWAYS make a better decision after sleeping on it...peace
Yup, glad I slept on it. I need to wait a few if I tell her, because my wife's grandma died over the weekend (pneumonia, 70's), her great aunt died yesterday (cancer, 70's), and her grandfather went into intensive care yesterday (internal bleeding, 92 years).

They say bad news comes in threes? Let's hope her grandpa pulls through this. Prayers for him would be appreciated. His name's Glen, until this year he lived in the farmhouse he bought in the 1950's with his wife, they've been married 65 years.
Prayers lifted for you all
Just saw this Kubiak, prayers for you and your family
Prayers for Glen and your biopsy brother Kub! Hang tough and know that we are here for you man.
hi. so sory for all the stress going on now. you have prayers as well. i also have an oral surgen visit this tuesday. a knot in my tongue. i hope and pray for the both of us for a good report. i feel your anxiety. thanks for shareing your worries
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Kubiak on January 21, 2013, 07:47:00 AM
Prayers work folks! Glen is a 92 year old man that has more tough than all of us combined. He had blood in his stool, a sign of internal bleeding, so he was in intensive care for 2 days and now is back home, stable and stubborn again. Thank you everyone for caring!
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: mich 34 on January 21, 2013, 09:40:00 PM
Quote from: Kubiak
Prayers work folks! Glen is a 92 year old man that has more tough than all of us combined. He had blood in his stool, a sign of internal bleeding, so he was in intensive care for 2 days and now is back home, stable and stubborn again. Thank you everyone for caring!
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Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Kubiak on December 04, 2013, 08:38:00 PM
493 is huge and so is my quit wood. Not a troll in a lonely quit group, not a bunch of assholes in a new one, not someone lying to us our whole HOF, not anything is gonna stop my quit. Not family, not friends, not work, nothing will make me a Slave to the can again. Not my stress, my weight, my back spasms, not how much I miss rugby, not a professional or collegiate sports team, nothing will make me cave. I am in control of my actions, and I have quitters I can lean on. In fact, it's an insult to them if I cave and not reach out.

I am quit.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Zak3188 on December 04, 2013, 08:53:00 PM
Quote from: Kubiak
493 is huge and so is my quit wood. Not a troll in a lonely quit group, not a bunch of assholes in a new one, not someone lying to us our whole HOF, not anything is gonna stop my quit. Not family, not friends, not work, nothing will make me a Slave to the can again. Not my stress, my weight, my back spasms, not how much I miss rugby, not a professional or collegiate sports team, nothing will make me cave. I am in control of my actions, and I have quitters I can lean on. In fact, it's an insult to them if I cave and not reach out.

I am quit.
Blah blah blah shut the fuck up
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Scowick65 on December 04, 2013, 09:09:00 PM
Quote from: Kubiak
493 is huge and so is my quit wood. Not a troll in a lonely quit group, not a bunch of assholes in a new one, not someone lying to us our whole HOF, not anything is gonna stop my quit. Not family, not friends, not work, nothing will make me a Slave to the can again. Not my stress, my weight, my back spasms, not how much I miss rugby, not a professional or collegiate sports team, nothing will make me cave. I am in control of my actions, and I have quitters I can lean on. In fact, it's an insult to them if I cave and not reach out.

I am quit.
Perfect and well done. Thanks for being here.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Evil_Won on December 04, 2013, 09:15:00 PM
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: Kubiak
493 is huge and so is my quit wood.  Not a troll in a lonely quit group,  not a bunch of assholes in a new one, not someone lying to us our whole HOF, not anything is gonna stop my quit. Not family, not friends, not work, nothing will make me a Slave to the can again. Not my stress, my weight, my back spasms, not how much I miss rugby, not a professional or collegiate sports team, nothing will make me cave. I am in control of my actions,  and I have quitters I can lean on. In fact, it's an insult to them if I cave and not reach out.

I am quit.
Perfect and well done. Thanks for being here.
Good inspiration here. Next beer is on me.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on December 04, 2013, 09:16:00 PM
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: Kubiak
493 is huge and so is my quit wood.  Not a troll in a lonely quit group,  not a bunch of assholes in a new one, not someone lying to us our whole HOF, not anything is gonna stop my quit. Not family, not friends, not work, nothing will make me a Slave to the can again. Not my stress, my weight, my back spasms, not how much I miss rugby, not a professional or collegiate sports team, nothing will make me cave. I am in control of my actions,  and I have quitters I can lean on. In fact, it's an insult to them if I cave and not reach out.

I am quit.
Perfect and well done. Thanks for being here.
Awesome Kubiak. Thanks for being there during my early days. I needed you and you came thru BIGTIME. Your avatar and your positive encouragement helped me thru FO SHO.

Congrats man, keep it up.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: RAZD611 on December 04, 2013, 09:21:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: Kubiak
493 is huge and so is my quit wood.  Not a troll in a lonely quit group,  not a bunch of assholes in a new one, not someone lying to us our whole HOF, not anything is gonna stop my quit. Not family, not friends, not work, nothing will make me a Slave to the can again. Not my stress, my weight, my back spasms, not how much I miss rugby, not a professional or collegiate sports team, nothing will make me cave. I am in control of my actions,  and I have quitters I can lean on. In fact, it's an insult to them if I cave and not reach out.

I am quit.
Perfect and well done. Thanks for being here.
Awesome Kubiak. Thanks for being there during my early days. I needed you and you came thru BIGTIME. Your avatar and your positive encouragement helped me thru FO SHO.

Congrats man, keep it up.
Atta Boy Luther!!!
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Diesel2112 on December 04, 2013, 11:14:00 PM
Quote from: razd611
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: Kubiak
493 is huge and so is my quit wood.  Not a troll in a lonely quit group,  not a bunch of assholes in a new one, not someone lying to us our whole HOF, not anything is gonna stop my quit. Not family, not friends, not work, nothing will make me a Slave to the can again. Not my stress, my weight, my back spasms, not how much I miss rugby, not a professional or collegiate sports team, nothing will make me cave. I am in control of my actions,  and I have quitters I can lean on. In fact, it's an insult to them if I cave and not reach out.

I am quit.
Perfect and well done. Thanks for being here.
Awesome Kubiak. Thanks for being there during my early days. I needed you and you came thru BIGTIME. Your avatar and your positive encouragement helped me thru FO SHO.

Congrats man, keep it up.
Atta Boy Luther!!!
That's how you do it, boys and girls.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: jaynellie on December 05, 2013, 09:42:00 AM
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: razd611
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: Kubiak
493 is huge and so is my quit wood.  Not a troll in a lonely quit group,  not a bunch of assholes in a new one, not someone lying to us our whole HOF, not anything is gonna stop my quit. Not family, not friends, not work, nothing will make me a Slave to the can again. Not my stress, my weight, my back spasms, not how much I miss rugby, not a professional or collegiate sports team, nothing will make me cave. I am in control of my actions,  and I have quitters I can lean on. In fact, it's an insult to them if I cave and not reach out.

I am quit.
Perfect and well done. Thanks for being here.
Awesome Kubiak. Thanks for being there during my early days. I needed you and you came thru BIGTIME. Your avatar and your positive encouragement helped me thru FO SHO.

Congrats man, keep it up.
Atta Boy Luther!!!
That's how you do it, boys and girls.
Well said Bad Ass......NAFAR!!!!!
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: kkljinc on December 05, 2013, 09:58:00 AM
Quote from: jaynellie
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: razd611
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: Kubiak
493 is huge and so is my quit wood.  Not a troll in a lonely quit group,  not a bunch of assholes in a new one, not someone lying to us our whole HOF, not anything is gonna stop my quit. Not family, not friends, not work, nothing will make me a Slave to the can again. Not my stress, my weight, my back spasms, not how much I miss rugby, not a professional or collegiate sports team, nothing will make me cave. I am in control of my actions,  and I have quitters I can lean on. In fact, it's an insult to them if I cave and not reach out.

I am quit.
Perfect and well done. Thanks for being here.
Awesome Kubiak. Thanks for being there during my early days. I needed you and you came thru BIGTIME. Your avatar and your positive encouragement helped me thru FO SHO.

Congrats man, keep it up.
Atta Boy Luther!!!
That's how you do it, boys and girls.
Well said Bad Ass......NAFAR!!!!!
'oh yeah'
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: 30isEnuff on December 05, 2013, 01:25:00 PM
Quote from: KKLJINC
Quote from: jaynellie
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: razd611
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: Kubiak
493 is huge and so is my quit wood.  Not a troll in a lonely quit group,  not a bunch of assholes in a new one, not someone lying to us our whole HOF, not anything is gonna stop my quit. Not family, not friends, not work, nothing will make me a Slave to the can again. Not my stress, my weight, my back spasms, not how much I miss rugby, not a professional or collegiate sports team, nothing will make me cave. I am in control of my actions,  and I have quitters I can lean on. In fact, it's an insult to them if I cave and not reach out.

I am quit.
Perfect and well done. Thanks for being here.
Awesome Kubiak. Thanks for being there during my early days. I needed you and you came thru BIGTIME. Your avatar and your positive encouragement helped me thru FO SHO.

Congrats man, keep it up.
Atta Boy Luther!!!
That's how you do it, boys and girls.
Well said Bad Ass......NAFAR!!!!!
'oh yeah'
Inspiring!
Wood is good. As long as it's quit.
Quit with you Kubs.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Kubiak on December 12, 2013, 09:43:00 AM
Thanks to all those sweethearts below, that made me blush.

Here's a thought... Can everyone ask themselves, "how important is my quit"? What are you willing to sacrifice in the best interest of staying quit?

Let me give an example... I played rugby full-time for 7 years, four in college and three after, until I got tired of icing all the time and my ankles/knees/back affecting my ability to walk around a jobsite. I would still play a game or two a year, whether it was an alumni game at college, or a mens game locally. There was nothing better than having a dip after getting off the pitch. Fat lip, exhausted lungs, bruises all over my body... it was the first thing I would think about when walking off. Well, a dip and a beer, they went together.

Since being quit for 501 days, I have not dared risk my quit by playing rugby. I miss it. There have been two alumni matches that I've avoided because of this. I'm able to keep in touch with the sport by coaching youth now, but I can't tell you how much I miss playing. I would like to think that the Fall of 2014 will be a good time to play, because I will be two years quit by then. But you know what? If I don't trust myself, I wont.

My quit is that important.

This quit gets easier, but we're still human and still addicts. Craves like eating used to come every fucking day, sometimes every hour; now, they are maybe once a week, or after a restaurant I haven't been to in ages.

So ask yourself... how important is your quit? What are you willing to give up in order to avoid dipping? Are there any craves that you don't trust yourself around yet? If there are, it's okay. A bigger man will recognize this and stay away from it, than the caver that uses it as a shitty excuse to cave.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: duathman on December 12, 2013, 09:55:00 AM
Quote from: Kubiak
Thanks to all those sweethearts below, that made me blush.

Here's a thought... Can everyone ask themselves, "how important is my quit"? What are you willing to sacrifice in the best interest of staying quit?

Let me give an example... I played rugby full-time for 7 years, four in college and three after, until I got tired of icing all the time and my ankles/knees/back affecting my ability to walk around a jobsite. I would still play a game or two a year, whether it was an alumni game at college, or a mens game locally. There was nothing better than having a dip after getting off the pitch. Fat lip, exhausted lungs, bruises all over my body... it was the first thing I would think about when walking off. Well, a dip and a beer, they went together.

Since being quit for 501 days, I have not dared risk my quit by playing rugby. I miss it. There have been two alumni matches that I've avoided because of this. I'm able to keep in touch with the sport by coaching youth now, but I can't tell you how much I miss playing. I would like to think that the Fall of 2014 will be a good time to play, because I will be two years quit by then. But you know what? If I don't trust myself, I wont.

My quit is that important.

This quit gets easier, but we're still human and still addicts. Craves like eating used to come every fucking day, sometimes every hour; now, they are maybe once a week, or after a restaurant I haven't been to in ages.

So ask yourself... how important is your quit? What are you willing to give up in order to avoid dipping? Are there any craves that you don't trust yourself around yet? If there are, it's okay. A bigger man will recognize this and stay away from it, than the caver that uses it as a shitty excuse to cave.
I faced my biggest crave (at least I thought it was going to be) to date the other day. I knew that day was coming since the my last dip 191 days ago. It was the Auburn/ Alabama game. Every year I go with my best friend. He introduced me to dip and he still does it. I have been to every Iron Bowl since 1989 and I wasn't about to miss this one.

I was ready for the challenge. He refused to make the 2 hour ride in my car without a dip so he drove separately. At the game he popped in a dip and I just popped in some seeds. We chatted some but I had been planning for the event since day1.

My quit was on my mind all day. Being around it didn't bother me because I had prepared even though my phone was useless (no service at the game). I couldn't call for support even if I needed to.

It was a great feeling to be quit and seeing him powerless having a dip in almost the entire game. BTW He is a bammer
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Coach Steve on December 12, 2013, 09:58:00 AM
Quote from: Kubiak
Thanks to all those sweethearts below, that made me blush.

Here's a thought... Can everyone ask themselves, "how important is my quit"? What are you willing to sacrifice in the best interest of staying quit?

Let me give an example... I played rugby full-time for 7 years, four in college and three after, until I got tired of icing all the time and my ankles/knees/back affecting my ability to walk around a jobsite. I would still play a game or two a year, whether it was an alumni game at college, or a mens game locally. There was nothing better than having a dip after getting off the pitch. Fat lip, exhausted lungs, bruises all over my body... it was the first thing I would think about when walking off. Well, a dip and a beer, they went together.

Since being quit for 501 days, I have not dared risk my quit by playing rugby. I miss it. There have been two alumni matches that I've avoided because of this. I'm able to keep in touch with the sport by coaching youth now, but I can't tell you how much I miss playing. I would like to think that the Fall of 2014 will be a good time to play, because I will be two years quit by then. But you know what? If I don't trust myself, I wont.

My quit is that important.

This quit gets easier, but we're still human and still addicts. Craves like eating used to come every fucking day, sometimes every hour; now, they are maybe once a week, or after a restaurant I haven't been to in ages.

So ask yourself... how important is your quit? What are you willing to give up in order to avoid dipping? Are there any craves that you don't trust yourself around yet? If there are, it's okay. A bigger man will recognize this and stay away from it, than the caver that uses it as a shitty excuse to cave.
I think it's time you face that demon. I admire your willingness to give up something you love to preserve your quit. However, there comes a time in every quitter's life where we must do those things that we once associated with dipping, be it mowing the lawn, work, driving, playing rugby, etc. I think you'll get more satisfaction from playing rugby and staying quit than you will from avoiding it all together.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: J2b on December 12, 2013, 10:14:00 AM
Quote from: Coach
Quote from: Kubiak
Thanks to all those sweethearts below, that made me blush.

Here's a thought... Can everyone ask themselves, "how important is my quit"?  What are you willing to sacrifice in the best interest of staying quit?

Let me give an example... I played rugby full-time for 7 years, four in college and three after, until I got tired of icing all the time and my ankles/knees/back affecting my ability to walk around a jobsite.  I would still play a game or two a year, whether it was an alumni game at college, or a mens game locally.  There was nothing better than having a dip after getting off the pitch.  Fat lip, exhausted lungs, bruises all over my body... it was the first thing I would think about when walking off.  Well, a dip and a beer, they went together. 

Since being quit for 501 days, I have not dared risk my quit by playing rugby.  I miss it.  There have been two alumni matches that I've avoided because of this.  I'm able to keep in touch with the sport by coaching youth now, but I can't tell you how much I miss playing.  I would like to think that the Fall of 2014 will be a good time to play, because I will be two years quit by then.  But you know what?  If I don't trust myself, I wont.

My quit is that important.

This quit gets easier, but we're still human and still addicts.  Craves like eating used to come every fucking day, sometimes every hour; now, they are maybe once a week, or after a restaurant I haven't been to in ages. 

So ask yourself... how important is your quit?  What are you willing to give up in order to avoid dipping?  Are there any craves that you don't trust yourself around yet?  If there are, it's okay.  A bigger man will recognize this and stay away from it, than the caver that uses it as a shitty excuse to cave.
I think it's time you face that demon. I admire your willingness to give up something you love to preserve your quit. However, there comes a time in every quitter's life where we must do those things that we once associated with dipping, be it mowing the lawn, work, driving, playing rugby, etc. I think you'll get more satisfaction from playing rugby and staying quit than you will from avoiding it all together.
^^ what the dick with teeth said.

I avoided a lot of shit in my first year, but i wish I had not in retrospect. Especially considering all the stuff that happened that I couldnt avoid (kids birth/hospitalization, dads hospitalization/death, etc).

I think had I pushed through the triggering events in a more controlled, planned fashion (like the barner and his game, or planning to go fishing and stocking up on seeds/fireballs and letting some quit brothers know, etc) it would have made the unplanned events that were completely out of my control easier.

Either way, the message of your quit being the priority and not putting it at danger is a good one. But life WILL happen, and it WILL happen on its own terms and in my opinion its better to have some firing range time under your belt before you are truly tested.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Minny on December 12, 2013, 11:41:00 AM
Quote from: jost2brown
Quote from: Coach
Quote from: Kubiak
Thanks to all those sweethearts below, that made me blush.

Here's a thought... Can everyone ask themselves, "how important is my quit"?  What are you willing to sacrifice in the best interest of staying quit?

Let me give an example... I played rugby full-time for 7 years, four in college and three after, until I got tired of icing all the time and my ankles/knees/back affecting my ability to walk around a jobsite.  I would still play a game or two a year, whether it was an alumni game at college, or a mens game locally.  There was nothing better than having a dip after getting off the pitch.  Fat lip, exhausted lungs, bruises all over my body... it was the first thing I would think about when walking off.  Well, a dip and a beer, they went together. 

Since being quit for 501 days, I have not dared risk my quit by playing rugby.  I miss it.  There have been two alumni matches that I've avoided because of this.  I'm able to keep in touch with the sport by coaching youth now, but I can't tell you how much I miss playing.  I would like to think that the Fall of 2014 will be a good time to play, because I will be two years quit by then.  But you know what?  If I don't trust myself, I wont.

My quit is that important.

This quit gets easier, but we're still human and still addicts.  Craves like eating used to come every fucking day, sometimes every hour; now, they are maybe once a week, or after a restaurant I haven't been to in ages. 

So ask yourself... how important is your quit?  What are you willing to give up in order to avoid dipping?  Are there any craves that you don't trust yourself around yet?  If there are, it's okay.  A bigger man will recognize this and stay away from it, than the caver that uses it as a shitty excuse to cave.
I think it's time you face that demon. I admire your willingness to give up something you love to preserve your quit. However, there comes a time in every quitter's life where we must do those things that we once associated with dipping, be it mowing the lawn, work, driving, playing rugby, etc. I think you'll get more satisfaction from playing rugby and staying quit than you will from avoiding it all together.
^^ what the dick with teeth said.

I avoided a lot of shit in my first year, but i wish I had not in retrospect. Especially considering all the stuff that happened that I couldnt avoid (kids birth/hospitalization, dads hospitalization/death, etc).

I think had I pushed through the triggering events in a more controlled, planned fashion (like the barner and his game, or planning to go fishing and stocking up on seeds/fireballs and letting some quit brothers know, etc) it would have made the unplanned events that were completely out of my control easier.

Either way, the message of your quit being the priority and not putting it at danger is a good one. But life WILL happen, and it WILL happen on its own terms and in my opinion its better to have some firing range time under your belt before you are truly tested.
Have no fear: no one is going to force you to dip. And (to paraphrase another quitter much smarter than I) you are an intelligent human and it is a plant. My bet is on you.

I love facing "trigger events" and winning because it makes me stronger. THE trigger event is approaching: the annual fly in duck hunt with the guys. I can't wait to enjoy the trip sans nic.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Scowick65 on December 12, 2013, 12:06:00 PM
Quote from: Minny
Quote from: jost2brown
Quote from: Coach
Quote from: Kubiak
Thanks to all those sweethearts below, that made me blush.

Here's a thought... Can everyone ask themselves, "how important is my quit"?  What are you willing to sacrifice in the best interest of staying quit?

Let me give an example... I played rugby full-time for 7 years, four in college and three after, until I got tired of icing all the time and my ankles/knees/back affecting my ability to walk around a jobsite.  I would still play a game or two a year, whether it was an alumni game at college, or a mens game locally.  There was nothing better than having a dip after getting off the pitch.  Fat lip, exhausted lungs, bruises all over my body... it was the first thing I would think about when walking off.  Well, a dip and a beer, they went together. 

Since being quit for 501 days, I have not dared risk my quit by playing rugby.  I miss it.  There have been two alumni matches that I've avoided because of this.  I'm able to keep in touch with the sport by coaching youth now, but I can't tell you how much I miss playing.  I would like to think that the Fall of 2014 will be a good time to play, because I will be two years quit by then.  But you know what?  If I don't trust myself, I wont.

My quit is that important.

This quit gets easier, but we're still human and still addicts.  Craves like eating used to come every fucking day, sometimes every hour; now, they are maybe once a week, or after a restaurant I haven't been to in ages. 

So ask yourself... how important is your quit?  What are you willing to give up in order to avoid dipping?  Are there any craves that you don't trust yourself around yet?  If there are, it's okay.  A bigger man will recognize this and stay away from it, than the caver that uses it as a shitty excuse to cave.
I think it's time you face that demon. I admire your willingness to give up something you love to preserve your quit. However, there comes a time in every quitter's life where we must do those things that we once associated with dipping, be it mowing the lawn, work, driving, playing rugby, etc. I think you'll get more satisfaction from playing rugby and staying quit than you will from avoiding it all together.
^^ what the dick with teeth said.

I avoided a lot of shit in my first year, but i wish I had not in retrospect. Especially considering all the stuff that happened that I couldnt avoid (kids birth/hospitalization, dads hospitalization/death, etc).

I think had I pushed through the triggering events in a more controlled, planned fashion (like the barner and his game, or planning to go fishing and stocking up on seeds/fireballs and letting some quit brothers know, etc) it would have made the unplanned events that were completely out of my control easier.

Either way, the message of your quit being the priority and not putting it at danger is a good one. But life WILL happen, and it WILL happen on its own terms and in my opinion its better to have some firing range time under your belt before you are truly tested.
Have no fear: no one is going to force you to dip. And (to paraphrase another quitter much smarter than I) you are an intelligent human and it is a plant. My bet is on you.

I love facing "trigger events" and winning because it makes me stronger. THE trigger event is approaching: the annual fly in duck hunt with the guys. I can't wait to enjoy the trip sans nic.
Yep. The nic bitch can get a little cocky. She thinks she owns a rugby field or a deer stand or a gas station. Sometimes it's fun just to walk in her "house", take a shit on the carpet, give her the finger and leave. If you see her, tell her you own this house as well.

:)
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Evil_Won on December 12, 2013, 12:52:00 PM
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: Minny
Quote from: jost2brown
Quote from: Coach
Quote from: Kubiak
Thanks to all those sweethearts below, that made me blush.

Here's a thought... Can everyone ask themselves, "how important is my quit"?  What are you willing to sacrifice in the best interest of staying quit?

Let me give an example... I played rugby full-time for 7 years, four in college and three after, until I got tired of icing all the time and my ankles/knees/back affecting my ability to walk around a jobsite.  I would still play a game or two a year, whether it was an alumni game at college, or a mens game locally.  There was nothing better than having a dip after getting off the pitch.  Fat lip, exhausted lungs, bruises all over my body... it was the first thing I would think about when walking off.  Well, a dip and a beer, they went together. 

Since being quit for 501 days, I have not dared risk my quit by playing rugby.  I miss it.  There have been two alumni matches that I've avoided because of this.  I'm able to keep in touch with the sport by coaching youth now, but I can't tell you how much I miss playing.  I would like to think that the Fall of 2014 will be a good time to play, because I will be two years quit by then.  But you know what?  If I don't trust myself, I wont.

My quit is that important.

This quit gets easier, but we're still human and still addicts.  Craves like eating used to come every fucking day, sometimes every hour; now, they are maybe once a week, or after a restaurant I haven't been to in ages. 

So ask yourself... how important is your quit?  What are you willing to give up in order to avoid dipping?  Are there any craves that you don't trust yourself around yet?  If there are, it's okay.  A bigger man will recognize this and stay away from it, than the caver that uses it as a shitty excuse to cave.
I think it's time you face that demon. I admire your willingness to give up something you love to preserve your quit. However, there comes a time in every quitter's life where we must do those things that we once associated with dipping, be it mowing the lawn, work, driving, playing rugby, etc. I think you'll get more satisfaction from playing rugby and staying quit than you will from avoiding it all together.
^^ what the dick with teeth said.

I avoided a lot of shit in my first year, but i wish I had not in retrospect. Especially considering all the stuff that happened that I couldnt avoid (kids birth/hospitalization, dads hospitalization/death, etc).

I think had I pushed through the triggering events in a more controlled, planned fashion (like the barner and his game, or planning to go fishing and stocking up on seeds/fireballs and letting some quit brothers know, etc) it would have made the unplanned events that were completely out of my control easier.

Either way, the message of your quit being the priority and not putting it at danger is a good one. But life WILL happen, and it WILL happen on its own terms and in my opinion its better to have some firing range time under your belt before you are truly tested.
Have no fear: no one is going to force you to dip. And (to paraphrase another quitter much smarter than I) you are an intelligent human and it is a plant. My bet is on you.

I love facing "trigger events" and winning because it makes me stronger. THE trigger event is approaching: the annual fly in duck hunt with the guys. I can't wait to enjoy the trip sans nic.
Yep. The nic bitch can get a little cocky. She thinks she owns a rugby field or a deer stand or a gas station. Sometimes it's fun just to walk in her "house", take a shit on the carpet, give her the finger and leave. If you see her, tell her you own this house as well.

:)
The Nic-Bitch will forever be a hellhound on your heels. Addicts can't forget that. Congrats on 500 and 501.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Nolaq on December 12, 2013, 12:59:00 PM
Quote from: Evil_Won
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: Minny
Quote from: jost2brown
Quote from: Coach
Quote from: Kubiak
Thanks to all those sweethearts below, that made me blush.

Here's a thought... Can everyone ask themselves, "how important is my quit"?  What are you willing to sacrifice in the best interest of staying quit?

Let me give an example... I played rugby full-time for 7 years, four in college and three after, until I got tired of icing all the time and my ankles/knees/back affecting my ability to walk around a jobsite.  I would still play a game or two a year, whether it was an alumni game at college, or a mens game locally.  There was nothing better than having a dip after getting off the pitch.  Fat lip, exhausted lungs, bruises all over my body... it was the first thing I would think about when walking off.  Well, a dip and a beer, they went together. 

Since being quit for 501 days, I have not dared risk my quit by playing rugby.  I miss it.  There have been two alumni matches that I've avoided because of this.  I'm able to keep in touch with the sport by coaching youth now, but I can't tell you how much I miss playing.  I would like to think that the Fall of 2014 will be a good time to play, because I will be two years quit by then.  But you know what?  If I don't trust myself, I wont.

My quit is that important.

This quit gets easier, but we're still human and still addicts.  Craves like eating used to come every fucking day, sometimes every hour; now, they are maybe once a week, or after a restaurant I haven't been to in ages. 

So ask yourself... how important is your quit?  What are you willing to give up in order to avoid dipping?  Are there any craves that you don't trust yourself around yet?  If there are, it's okay.  A bigger man will recognize this and stay away from it, than the caver that uses it as a shitty excuse to cave.
I think it's time you face that demon. I admire your willingness to give up something you love to preserve your quit. However, there comes a time in every quitter's life where we must do those things that we once associated with dipping, be it mowing the lawn, work, driving, playing rugby, etc. I think you'll get more satisfaction from playing rugby and staying quit than you will from avoiding it all together.
^^ what the dick with teeth said.

I avoided a lot of shit in my first year, but i wish I had not in retrospect. Especially considering all the stuff that happened that I couldnt avoid (kids birth/hospitalization, dads hospitalization/death, etc).

I think had I pushed through the triggering events in a more controlled, planned fashion (like the barner and his game, or planning to go fishing and stocking up on seeds/fireballs and letting some quit brothers know, etc) it would have made the unplanned events that were completely out of my control easier.

Either way, the message of your quit being the priority and not putting it at danger is a good one. But life WILL happen, and it WILL happen on its own terms and in my opinion its better to have some firing range time under your belt before you are truly tested.
Have no fear: no one is going to force you to dip. And (to paraphrase another quitter much smarter than I) you are an intelligent human and it is a plant. My bet is on you.

I love facing "trigger events" and winning because it makes me stronger. THE trigger event is approaching: the annual fly in duck hunt with the guys. I can't wait to enjoy the trip sans nic.
Yep. The nic bitch can get a little cocky. She thinks she owns a rugby field or a deer stand or a gas station. Sometimes it's fun just to walk in her "house", take a shit on the carpet, give her the finger and leave. If you see her, tell her you own this house as well.

:)
The Nic-Bitch will forever be a hellhound on your heels. Addicts can't forget that. Congrats on 500 and 501.
Print this out and carry it in your pocket:
Quote from: Kubiak
FREEDOM!!!!!  -primal scream as I rip the patch off my shoulder

OK now I will try to post for real
That was the moment you took her head on. Own it. Don't let the bitch win, whether its a Rugby field, or a long drive, or after Christmas dinner.

Fuck her.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: T-Cell on December 12, 2013, 01:48:00 PM
Quote from: Nolaq
Quote from: Evil_Won
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: Minny
Quote from: jost2brown
Quote from: Coach
Quote from: Kubiak
Thanks to all those sweethearts below, that made me blush.

Here's a thought... Can everyone ask themselves, "how important is my quit"?  What are you willing to sacrifice in the best interest of staying quit?

Let me give an example... I played rugby full-time for 7 years, four in college and three after, until I got tired of icing all the time and my ankles/knees/back affecting my ability to walk around a jobsite.  I would still play a game or two a year, whether it was an alumni game at college, or a mens game locally.  There was nothing better than having a dip after getting off the pitch.  Fat lip, exhausted lungs, bruises all over my body... it was the first thing I would think about when walking off.  Well, a dip and a beer, they went together. 

Since being quit for 501 days, I have not dared risk my quit by playing rugby.  I miss it.  There have been two alumni matches that I've avoided because of this.  I'm able to keep in touch with the sport by coaching youth now, but I can't tell you how much I miss playing.  I would like to think that the Fall of 2014 will be a good time to play, because I will be two years quit by then.  But you know what?  If I don't trust myself, I wont.

My quit is that important.

This quit gets easier, but we're still human and still addicts.  Craves like eating used to come every fucking day, sometimes every hour; now, they are maybe once a week, or after a restaurant I haven't been to in ages. 

So ask yourself... how important is your quit?  What are you willing to give up in order to avoid dipping?  Are there any craves that you don't trust yourself around yet?  If there are, it's okay.  A bigger man will recognize this and stay away from it, than the caver that uses it as a shitty excuse to cave.
I think it's time you face that demon. I admire your willingness to give up something you love to preserve your quit. However, there comes a time in every quitter's life where we must do those things that we once associated with dipping, be it mowing the lawn, work, driving, playing rugby, etc. I think you'll get more satisfaction from playing rugby and staying quit than you will from avoiding it all together.
^^ what the dick with teeth said.

I avoided a lot of shit in my first year, but i wish I had not in retrospect. Especially considering all the stuff that happened that I couldnt avoid (kids birth/hospitalization, dads hospitalization/death, etc).

I think had I pushed through the triggering events in a more controlled, planned fashion (like the barner and his game, or planning to go fishing and stocking up on seeds/fireballs and letting some quit brothers know, etc) it would have made the unplanned events that were completely out of my control easier.

Either way, the message of your quit being the priority and not putting it at danger is a good one. But life WILL happen, and it WILL happen on its own terms and in my opinion its better to have some firing range time under your belt before you are truly tested.
Have no fear: no one is going to force you to dip. And (to paraphrase another quitter much smarter than I) you are an intelligent human and it is a plant. My bet is on you.

I love facing "trigger events" and winning because it makes me stronger. THE trigger event is approaching: the annual fly in duck hunt with the guys. I can't wait to enjoy the trip sans nic.
Yep. The nic bitch can get a little cocky. She thinks she owns a rugby field or a deer stand or a gas station. Sometimes it's fun just to walk in her "house", take a shit on the carpet, give her the finger and leave. If you see her, tell her you own this house as well.

:)
The Nic-Bitch will forever be a hellhound on your heels. Addicts can't forget that. Congrats on 500 and 501.
Print this out and carry it in your pocket:
Quote from: Kubiak
FREEDOM!!!!!  -primal scream as I rip the patch off my shoulder

OK now I will try to post for real
That was the moment you took her head on. Own it. Don't let the bitch win, whether its a Rugby field, or a long drive, or after Christmas dinner.

Fuck her.
Couldn't agree more. Take her on and kick her ass everywhere you want to be. I wouldn't recommend that for someone with 20 days in, but once a quitter has some winning experiences it shouldn't be that difficult. Simply be prepared, you have the quit savvy to win again every time.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Kubiak on December 12, 2013, 05:49:00 PM
Quote from: T-Cell
Quote from: Nolaq
Quote from: Evil_Won
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: Minny
Quote from: jost2brown
Quote from: Coach
Quote from: Kubiak
Thanks to all those sweethearts below, that made me blush.

Here's a thought... Can everyone ask themselves, "how important is my quit"?  What are you willing to sacrifice in the best interest of staying quit?

Let me give an example... I played rugby full-time for 7 years, four in college and three after, until I got tired of icing all the time and my ankles/knees/back affecting my ability to walk around a jobsite.  I would still play a game or two a year, whether it was an alumni game at college, or a mens game locally.  There was nothing better than having a dip after getting off the pitch.  Fat lip, exhausted lungs, bruises all over my body... it was the first thing I would think about when walking off.  Well, a dip and a beer, they went together. 

Since being quit for 501 days, I have not dared risk my quit by playing rugby.  I miss it.  There have been two alumni matches that I've avoided because of this.  I'm able to keep in touch with the sport by coaching youth now, but I can't tell you how much I miss playing.  I would like to think that the Fall of 2014 will be a good time to play, because I will be two years quit by then.  But you know what?  If I don't trust myself, I wont.

My quit is that important.

This quit gets easier, but we're still human and still addicts.  Craves like eating used to come every fucking day, sometimes every hour; now, they are maybe once a week, or after a restaurant I haven't been to in ages. 

So ask yourself... how important is your quit?  What are you willing to give up in order to avoid dipping?  Are there any craves that you don't trust yourself around yet?  If there are, it's okay.  A bigger man will recognize this and stay away from it, than the caver that uses it as a shitty excuse to cave.
I think it's time you face that demon. I admire your willingness to give up something you love to preserve your quit. However, there comes a time in every quitter's life where we must do those things that we once associated with dipping, be it mowing the lawn, work, driving, playing rugby, etc. I think you'll get more satisfaction from playing rugby and staying quit than you will from avoiding it all together.
^^ what the dick with teeth said.

I avoided a lot of shit in my first year, but i wish I had not in retrospect. Especially considering all the stuff that happened that I couldnt avoid (kids birth/hospitalization, dads hospitalization/death, etc).

I think had I pushed through the triggering events in a more controlled, planned fashion (like the barner and his game, or planning to go fishing and stocking up on seeds/fireballs and letting some quit brothers know, etc) it would have made the unplanned events that were completely out of my control easier.

Either way, the message of your quit being the priority and not putting it at danger is a good one. But life WILL happen, and it WILL happen on its own terms and in my opinion its better to have some firing range time under your belt before you are truly tested.
Have no fear: no one is going to force you to dip. And (to paraphrase another quitter much smarter than I) you are an intelligent human and it is a plant. My bet is on you.

I love facing "trigger events" and winning because it makes me stronger. THE trigger event is approaching: the annual fly in duck hunt with the guys. I can't wait to enjoy the trip sans nic.
Yep. The nic bitch can get a little cocky. She thinks she owns a rugby field or a deer stand or a gas station. Sometimes it's fun just to walk in her "house", take a shit on the carpet, give her the finger and leave. If you see her, tell her you own this house as well.

:)
The Nic-Bitch will forever be a hellhound on your heels. Addicts can't forget that. Congrats on 500 and 501.
Print this out and carry it in your pocket:
Quote from: Kubiak
FREEDOM!!!!!  -primal scream as I rip the patch off my shoulder

OK now I will try to post for real
That was the moment you took her head on. Own it. Don't let the bitch win, whether its a Rugby field, or a long drive, or after Christmas dinner.

Fuck her.
Couldn't agree more. Take her on and kick her ass everywhere you want to be. I wouldn't recommend that for someone with 20 days in, but once a quitter has some winning experiences it shouldn't be that difficult. Simply be prepared, you have the quit savvy to win again every time.
Maybe I'm not telling the full story...

waaaay before I was on KTC, I "stopped" for a year and a half when I got married in 2008. About 500 days, I suppose. And I went to an alumni game, "quit". I dipped that whole weekend like it was my last weekend on earth, and after the weekend was over, I "stopped" dipping again. Well that lasted until the next time I was out with my friends, and then stopped again... that led to being full-time over the course of a couple months.

I know what you're saying, and I should own this... but I really do value my quit more than I do playing rugby. I think I should play a match with dudes I don't know first, a local club, to get one under my belt on my terms. Luckily I get to wait until the spring, and develop a solid "rugby quit plan" that incorporates peripherals (gum/seeds/fireballs), calling a couple guys before/after the match just to reinforce the quit, and maybe a butt plug... not that I've ever tried one, but hey, it might help, why not.

I really appreciate everyone's opinion on this, it helps.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Scowick65 on December 12, 2013, 09:51:00 PM
Quote from: Kubiak
Quote from: T-Cell
Quote from: Nolaq
Quote from: Evil_Won
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: Minny
Quote from: jost2brown
Quote from: Coach
Quote from: Kubiak
Thanks to all those sweethearts below, that made me blush.

Here's a thought... Can everyone ask themselves, "how important is my quit"?  What are you willing to sacrifice in the best interest of staying quit?

Let me give an example... I played rugby full-time for 7 years, four in college and three after, until I got tired of icing all the time and my ankles/knees/back affecting my ability to walk around a jobsite.  I would still play a game or two a year, whether it was an alumni game at college, or a mens game locally.  There was nothing better than having a dip after getting off the pitch.  Fat lip, exhausted lungs, bruises all over my body... it was the first thing I would think about when walking off.  Well, a dip and a beer, they went together. 

Since being quit for 501 days, I have not dared risk my quit by playing rugby.  I miss it.  There have been two alumni matches that I've avoided because of this.  I'm able to keep in touch with the sport by coaching youth now, but I can't tell you how much I miss playing.  I would like to think that the Fall of 2014 will be a good time to play, because I will be two years quit by then.  But you know what?  If I don't trust myself, I wont.

My quit is that important.

This quit gets easier, but we're still human and still addicts.  Craves like eating used to come every fucking day, sometimes every hour; now, they are maybe once a week, or after a restaurant I haven't been to in ages. 

So ask yourself... how important is your quit?  What are you willing to give up in order to avoid dipping?  Are there any craves that you don't trust yourself around yet?  If there are, it's okay.  A bigger man will recognize this and stay away from it, than the caver that uses it as a shitty excuse to cave.
I think it's time you face that demon. I admire your willingness to give up something you love to preserve your quit. However, there comes a time in every quitter's life where we must do those things that we once associated with dipping, be it mowing the lawn, work, driving, playing rugby, etc. I think you'll get more satisfaction from playing rugby and staying quit than you will from avoiding it all together.
^^ what the dick with teeth said.

I avoided a lot of shit in my first year, but i wish I had not in retrospect. Especially considering all the stuff that happened that I couldnt avoid (kids birth/hospitalization, dads hospitalization/death, etc).

I think had I pushed through the triggering events in a more controlled, planned fashion (like the barner and his game, or planning to go fishing and stocking up on seeds/fireballs and letting some quit brothers know, etc) it would have made the unplanned events that were completely out of my control easier.

Either way, the message of your quit being the priority and not putting it at danger is a good one. But life WILL happen, and it WILL happen on its own terms and in my opinion its better to have some firing range time under your belt before you are truly tested.
Have no fear: no one is going to force you to dip. And (to paraphrase another quitter much smarter than I) you are an intelligent human and it is a plant. My bet is on you.

I love facing "trigger events" and winning because it makes me stronger. THE trigger event is approaching: the annual fly in duck hunt with the guys. I can't wait to enjoy the trip sans nic.
Yep. The nic bitch can get a little cocky. She thinks she owns a rugby field or a deer stand or a gas station. Sometimes it's fun just to walk in her "house", take a shit on the carpet, give her the finger and leave. If you see her, tell her you own this house as well.

:)
The Nic-Bitch will forever be a hellhound on your heels. Addicts can't forget that. Congrats on 500 and 501.
Print this out and carry it in your pocket:
Quote from: Kubiak
FREEDOM!!!!!  -primal scream as I rip the patch off my shoulder

OK now I will try to post for real
That was the moment you took her head on. Own it. Don't let the bitch win, whether its a Rugby field, or a long drive, or after Christmas dinner.

Fuck her.
Couldn't agree more. Take her on and kick her ass everywhere you want to be. I wouldn't recommend that for someone with 20 days in, but once a quitter has some winning experiences it shouldn't be that difficult. Simply be prepared, you have the quit savvy to win again every time.
Maybe I'm not telling the full story...

waaaay before I was on KTC, I "stopped" for a year and a half when I got married in 2008. About 500 days, I suppose. And I went to an alumni game, "quit". I dipped that whole weekend like it was my last weekend on earth, and after the weekend was over, I "stopped" dipping again. Well that lasted until the next time I was out with my friends, and then stopped again... that led to being full-time over the course of a couple months.

I know what you're saying, and I should own this... but I really do value my quit more than I do playing rugby. I think I should play a match with dudes I don't know first, a local club, to get one under my belt on my terms. Luckily I get to wait until the spring, and develop a solid "rugby quit plan" that incorporates peripherals (gum/seeds/fireballs), calling a couple guys before/after the match just to reinforce the quit, and maybe a butt plug... not that I've ever tried one, but hey, it might help, why not.

I really appreciate everyone's opinion on this, it helps.
Trust your gut then. I trust your judgement.

PS.

I'll take a shit in the nic bitches's living room. I'll tell her Kubiak sent me. 'arse'
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Kubiak on January 05, 2014, 09:40:00 PM
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: Kubiak
Quote from: T-Cell
Quote from: Nolaq
Quote from: Evil_Won
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: Minny
Quote from: jost2brown
Quote from: Coach
Quote from: Kubiak
Thanks to all those sweethearts below, that made me blush.

Here's a thought... Can everyone ask themselves, "how important is my quit"?  What are you willing to sacrifice in the best interest of staying quit?

Let me give an example... I played rugby full-time for 7 years, four in college and three after, until I got tired of icing all the time and my ankles/knees/back affecting my ability to walk around a jobsite.  I would still play a game or two a year, whether it was an alumni game at college, or a mens game locally.  There was nothing better than having a dip after getting off the pitch.  Fat lip, exhausted lungs, bruises all over my body... it was the first thing I would think about when walking off.  Well, a dip and a beer, they went together. 

Since being quit for 501 days, I have not dared risk my quit by playing rugby.  I miss it.  There have been two alumni matches that I've avoided because of this.  I'm able to keep in touch with the sport by coaching youth now, but I can't tell you how much I miss playing.  I would like to think that the Fall of 2014 will be a good time to play, because I will be two years quit by then.  But you know what?  If I don't trust myself, I wont.

My quit is that important.

This quit gets easier, but we're still human and still addicts.  Craves like eating used to come every fucking day, sometimes every hour; now, they are maybe once a week, or after a restaurant I haven't been to in ages. 

So ask yourself... how important is your quit?  What are you willing to give up in order to avoid dipping?  Are there any craves that you don't trust yourself around yet?  If there are, it's okay.  A bigger man will recognize this and stay away from it, than the caver that uses it as a shitty excuse to cave.
I think it's time you face that demon. I admire your willingness to give up something you love to preserve your quit. However, there comes a time in every quitter's life where we must do those things that we once associated with dipping, be it mowing the lawn, work, driving, playing rugby, etc. I think you'll get more satisfaction from playing rugby and staying quit than you will from avoiding it all together.
^^ what the dick with teeth said.

I avoided a lot of shit in my first year, but i wish I had not in retrospect. Especially considering all the stuff that happened that I couldnt avoid (kids birth/hospitalization, dads hospitalization/death, etc).

I think had I pushed through the triggering events in a more controlled, planned fashion (like the barner and his game, or planning to go fishing and stocking up on seeds/fireballs and letting some quit brothers know, etc) it would have made the unplanned events that were completely out of my control easier.

Either way, the message of your quit being the priority and not putting it at danger is a good one. But life WILL happen, and it WILL happen on its own terms and in my opinion its better to have some firing range time under your belt before you are truly tested.
Have no fear: no one is going to force you to dip. And (to paraphrase another quitter much smarter than I) you are an intelligent human and it is a plant. My bet is on you.

I love facing "trigger events" and winning because it makes me stronger. THE trigger event is approaching: the annual fly in duck hunt with the guys. I can't wait to enjoy the trip sans nic.
Yep. The nic bitch can get a little cocky. She thinks she owns a rugby field or a deer stand or a gas station. Sometimes it's fun just to walk in her "house", take a shit on the carpet, give her the finger and leave. If you see her, tell her you own this house as well.

:)
The Nic-Bitch will forever be a hellhound on your heels. Addicts can't forget that. Congrats on 500 and 501.
Print this out and carry it in your pocket:
Quote from: Kubiak
FREEDOM!!!!!  -primal scream as I rip the patch off my shoulder

OK now I will try to post for real
That was the moment you took her head on. Own it. Don't let the bitch win, whether its a Rugby field, or a long drive, or after Christmas dinner.

Fuck her.
Couldn't agree more. Take her on and kick her ass everywhere you want to be. I wouldn't recommend that for someone with 20 days in, but once a quitter has some winning experiences it shouldn't be that difficult. Simply be prepared, you have the quit savvy to win again every time.
Maybe I'm not telling the full story...

waaaay before I was on KTC, I "stopped" for a year and a half when I got married in 2008. About 500 days, I suppose. And I went to an alumni game, "quit". I dipped that whole weekend like it was my last weekend on earth, and after the weekend was over, I "stopped" dipping again. Well that lasted until the next time I was out with my friends, and then stopped again... that led to being full-time over the course of a couple months.

I know what you're saying, and I should own this... but I really do value my quit more than I do playing rugby. I think I should play a match with dudes I don't know first, a local club, to get one under my belt on my terms. Luckily I get to wait until the spring, and develop a solid "rugby quit plan" that incorporates peripherals (gum/seeds/fireballs), calling a couple guys before/after the match just to reinforce the quit, and maybe a butt plug... not that I've ever tried one, but hey, it might help, why not.

I really appreciate everyone's opinion on this, it helps.
Trust your gut then. I trust your judgement.

PS.

I'll take a shit in the nic bitches's living room. I'll tell her Kubiak sent me. 'arse'
Hey Sco, did ya pinch one out on her coffee table for me? Seriously, she deserves it. Especially after new years, just a reminder how much we hate her. Then again, if she read that Big Savings Wednesday, she might get a clue.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: AppleJack on July 11, 2014, 01:39:00 AM
Cave alert...
4 cigarettes on a drunken fishing trip.

Someone has some 'splaining to do.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Nolaq on July 11, 2014, 07:46:00 AM
What a fucking shame. To think I wasted a shit ton of time on you.

Thanks for the betrayal. Hope it was worth it.

Bitch.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: UH60Chief107 on July 11, 2014, 08:34:00 AM
Quote from: Kubiak
kubiak day 1- I posted roll yesterday when i woke up and then proceeded to smoke 4 cigs while "fishing" with 2 cases of beer. i didn't lie, I broke a promise, and for that i suck. phone was dead, but i don't think it would've mattered, i was partying my balls off. would've been nice if i actually caught some fish.
And he sounds REEEEEEEAAAAAL sorry about it ^o)
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Doc2quit4good on July 11, 2014, 11:11:00 AM
Quote from: UH60Chief107
Quote from: Kubiak
kubiak day 1- I posted roll yesterday when i woke up and then proceeded to smoke 4 cigs while "fishing" with 2 cases of beer. i didn't lie, I broke a promise, and for that i suck. phone was dead, but i don't think it would've mattered, i was partying my balls off. would've been nice if i actually caught some fish.
And he sounds REEEEEEEAAAAAL sorry about it ^o)
I hate to even quote this because I don't want to bump this up to the top again, but here is the thing. It's bad enough to hear the words complacency, lack of integrity, etc lately....Yelled in our faces.... Kubiak was in a solid group. Hell I even got called out for commenting before posting first there once. You can't forget your tools and your comittment to quit. I was right at the cusp of this cave and didn't even know it. He was telling me about leaving KTC for a better alternative. I let him go on. Not that I could stop him from going anywhere else or caving, but should have realized it and at least communicated to his brothers in Nov 12. There's been a lot of shit around here lately. People siding with other people instead of the process. What I didn't see in this case was Kubiak siding with his quit. He didn't protect his quit. We can't ever compromise our quits because we think we should support someone. Your quit is the most important thing. Post roll here for yourself everyday. Post roll supporting others, but do it to protect your quit. Side with the process here at KTC and not people. It works!!!!
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Thumblewort on July 11, 2014, 11:30:00 AM
I just don't get it, not after 500 days. A good post for the pre-HoF'ers right here - always have a cave plan in place, day 1 or day 10,001.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: chewie on July 11, 2014, 11:43:00 AM
Quote from: Kubiak
I'm really freaked out that I wont' stick with the quit, I'm using nicotine patch and chew gum all day long. This is at least the 5th time I've quit, last time in 2008 when I got married, I was good for 9 months. I want to give my wife an anniversary surprise this Thursday that I'm 2 weeks quit and need some help getting through this. Thanks to everyone that there is a forum I can speak out to.
You didn't...

*sigh*
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: srans on July 11, 2014, 11:51:00 AM
Quote from: chewie
Quote from: Kubiak
I'm really freaked out that I wont' stick with the quit, I'm using nicotine patch and chew gum all day long. This is at least the 5th time I've quit, last time in 2008 when I got married, I was good for 9 months. I want to give my wife an anniversary surprise this Thursday that I'm 2 weeks quit and need some help getting through this. Thanks to everyone that there is a forum I can speak out to.
You didn't...

*sigh*
Damn. That's two with over 500 + in one week. My group had 1 over the weekend. Who's next? It won't be me. You got my word!!!
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Roamcountry on July 11, 2014, 12:23:00 PM
Quote from: srans
Quote from: chewie
Quote from: Kubiak
I'm really freaked out that I wont' stick with the quit, I'm using nicotine patch and chew gum all day long. This is at least the 5th time I've quit, last time in 2008 when I got married, I was good for 9 months. I want to give my wife an anniversary surprise this Thursday that I'm 2 weeks quit and need some help getting through this. Thanks to everyone that there is a forum I can speak out to.
You didn't...

*sigh*
Damn. That's two with over 500 + in one week. My group had 1 over the weekend. Who's next? It won't be me. You got my word!!!
You've affected a lot of people here, I think you owe an explanation.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: slug.go on July 11, 2014, 02:29:00 PM
Quote from: Roamcountry
Quote from: srans
Quote from: chewie
Quote from: Kubiak
I'm really freaked out that I wont' stick with the quit, I'm using nicotine patch and chew gum all day long. This is at least the 5th time I've quit, last time in 2008 when I got married, I was good for 9 months. I want to give my wife an anniversary surprise this Thursday that I'm 2 weeks quit and need some help getting through this. Thanks to everyone that there is a forum I can speak out to.
You didn't...

*sigh*
Damn. That's two with over 500 + in one week. My group had 1 over the weekend. Who's next? It won't be me. You got my word!!!
You've affected a lot of people here, I think you owe an explanation.
Damn...
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Bulldog0311 on July 11, 2014, 03:08:00 PM
Quote from: slug.go
Quote from: Roamcountry
Quote from: srans
Quote from: chewie
Quote from: Kubiak
I'm really freaked out that I wont' stick with the quit, I'm using nicotine patch and chew gum all day long. This is at least the 5th time I've quit, last time in 2008 when I got married, I was good for 9 months. I want to give my wife an anniversary surprise this Thursday that I'm 2 weeks quit and need some help getting through this. Thanks to everyone that there is a forum I can speak out to.
You didn't...

*sigh*
Damn. That's two with over 500 + in one week. My group had 1 over the weekend. Who's next? It won't be me. You got my word!!!
You've affected a lot of people here, I think you owe an explanation.
Damn...
This is the proof man. We are a herd. When you stray from the herd that nic bitch lion is out there just waiting on you. 5 days, hall of fame, 500 or 5000 days it just don't matter. She wants you dead and she's never gonna stop trying. You will never be safe.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: E&C's Dad on July 11, 2014, 04:39:00 PM
Quote from: Bulldog0311
Quote from: slug.go
Quote from: Roamcountry
Quote from: srans
Quote from: chewie
Quote from: Kubiak
I'm really freaked out that I wont' stick with the quit, I'm using nicotine patch and chew gum all day long. This is at least the 5th time I've quit, last time in 2008 when I got married, I was good for 9 months. I want to give my wife an anniversary surprise this Thursday that I'm 2 weeks quit and need some help getting through this. Thanks to everyone that there is a forum I can speak out to.
You didn't...

*sigh*
Damn. That's two with over 500 + in one week. My group had 1 over the weekend. Who's next? It won't be me. You got my word!!!
You've affected a lot of people here, I think you owe an explanation.
Damn...
This is the proof man. We are a herd. When you stray from the herd that nic bitch lion is out there just waiting on you. 5 days, hall of fame, 500 or 5000 days it just don't matter. She wants you dead and she's never gonna stop trying. You will never be safe.
What the fuck! Its amazing what the bitch can do to a man. You sound a lot more like the little bitch who first posted here than the 500+ day quit bad ass that you were last week. Answer the questions, make a amends and keep your fucking word this time. You better not disappear again!
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: E&C's Dad on July 11, 2014, 04:42:00 PM
Quote from: E&C's
Quote from: Bulldog0311
Quote from: slug.go
Quote from: Roamcountry
Quote from: srans
Quote from: chewie
Quote from: Kubiak
I'm really freaked out that I wont' stick with the quit, I'm using nicotine patch and chew gum all day long. This is at least the 5th time I've quit, last time in 2008 when I got married, I was good for 9 months. I want to give my wife an anniversary surprise this Thursday that I'm 2 weeks quit and need some help getting through this. Thanks to everyone that there is a forum I can speak out to.
You didn't...

*sigh*
Damn. That's two with over 500 + in one week. My group had 1 over the weekend. Who's next? It won't be me. You got my word!!!
You've affected a lot of people here, I think you owe an explanation.
Damn...
This is the proof man. We are a herd. When you stray from the herd that nic bitch lion is out there just waiting on you. 5 days, hall of fame, 500 or 5000 days it just don't matter. She wants you dead and she's never gonna stop trying. You will never be safe.
What the fuck! Its amazing what the bitch can do to a man. You sound a lot more like the little bitch who first posted here than the 500+ day quit bad ass that you were last week. Answer the questions, make a amends and keep your fucking word this time. You better not disappear again!
And you better start posting with October as well as your old group. Disrespectful as hell to post in the asylum and not with October. Man the fuck up or Move the fuck out.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: E&C's Dad on July 11, 2014, 06:52:00 PM
Quote from: E&C's
Quote from: E&C's
Quote from: Bulldog0311
Quote from: slug.go
Quote from: Roamcountry
Quote from: srans
Quote from: chewie
Quote from: Kubiak
I'm really freaked out that I wont' stick with the quit, I'm using nicotine patch and chew gum all day long. This is at least the 5th time I've quit, last time in 2008 when I got married, I was good for 9 months. I want to give my wife an anniversary surprise this Thursday that I'm 2 weeks quit and need some help getting through this. Thanks to everyone that there is a forum I can speak out to.
You didn't...

*sigh*
Damn. That's two with over 500 + in one week. My group had 1 over the weekend. Who's next? It won't be me. You got my word!!!
You've affected a lot of people here, I think you owe an explanation.
Damn...
This is the proof man. We are a herd. When you stray from the herd that nic bitch lion is out there just waiting on you. 5 days, hall of fame, 500 or 5000 days it just don't matter. She wants you dead and she's never gonna stop trying. You will never be safe.
What the fuck! Its amazing what the bitch can do to a man. You sound a lot more like the little bitch who first posted here than the 500+ day quit bad ass that you were last week. Answer the questions, make a amends and keep your fucking word this time. You better not disappear again!
And you better start posting with October as well as your old group. Disrespectful as hell to post in the asylum and not with October. Man the fuck up or Move the fuck out.
See u lurking kubiac got anything to say?
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Ron_Cross on July 11, 2014, 07:11:00 PM
Quote from: E&C's
Quote from: E&C's
Quote from: E&C's
Quote from: Bulldog0311
Quote from: slug.go
Quote from: Roamcountry
Quote from: srans
Quote from: chewie
Quote from: Kubiak
I'm really freaked out that I wont' stick with the quit, I'm using nicotine patch and chew gum all day long. This is at least the 5th time I've quit, last time in 2008 when I got married, I was good for 9 months. I want to give my wife an anniversary surprise this Thursday that I'm 2 weeks quit and need some help getting through this. Thanks to everyone that there is a forum I can speak out to.
You didn't...

*sigh*
Damn. That's two with over 500 + in one week. My group had 1 over the weekend. Who's next? It won't be me. You got my word!!!
You've affected a lot of people here, I think you owe an explanation.
Damn...
This is the proof man. We are a herd. When you stray from the herd that nic bitch lion is out there just waiting on you. 5 days, hall of fame, 500 or 5000 days it just don't matter. She wants you dead and she's never gonna stop trying. You will never be safe.
What the fuck! Its amazing what the bitch can do to a man. You sound a lot more like the little bitch who first posted here than the 500+ day quit bad ass that you were last week. Answer the questions, make a amends and keep your fucking word this time. You better not disappear again!
And you better start posting with October as well as your old group. Disrespectful as hell to post in the asylum and not with October. Man the fuck up or Move the fuck out.
See u lurking kubiac got anything to say?
He left seeking honor and integrity in others. Problem being he never had any within. Does not matter where you post what matters is in your heart and gut.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: 30yraddict on July 11, 2014, 07:46:00 PM
Kubiak.

What's with all of the nonchalance toward your quit brothers? 700 days you were with them. Seems like from what I read they supported you for those 700. You cave and say, "guard your quits, assholes" and leave? Do you really despise them as much as your actions indicate?

You can be a better man than this.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: 30isEnuff on July 11, 2014, 07:59:00 PM
Quote from: Ron_Cross
Quote from: E&C's
Quote from: E&C's
Quote from: E&C's
Quote from: Bulldog0311
Quote from: slug.go
Quote from: Roamcountry
Quote from: srans
Quote from: chewie
Quote from: Kubiak
I'm really freaked out that I wont' stick with the quit, I'm using nicotine patch and chew gum all day long.  This is at least the 5th time I've quit, last time in 2008 when I got married, I was good for 9 months. I want to give my wife an anniversary surprise this Thursday that I'm 2 weeks quit and need some help getting through this. Thanks to everyone that there is a forum I can speak out to.
You didn't...

*sigh*
Damn. That's two with over 500 + in one week. My group had 1 over the weekend. Who's next? It won't be me. You got my word!!!
You've affected a lot of people here, I think you owe an explanation.
Damn...
This is the proof man. We are a herd. When you stray from the herd that nic bitch lion is out there just waiting on you. 5 days, hall of fame, 500 or 5000 days it just don't matter. She wants you dead and she's never gonna stop trying. You will never be safe.
What the fuck! Its amazing what the bitch can do to a man. You sound a lot more like the little bitch who first posted here than the 500+ day quit bad ass that you were last week. Answer the questions, make a amends and keep your fucking word this time. You better not disappear again!
And you better start posting with October as well as your old group. Disrespectful as hell to post in the asylum and not with October. Man the fuck up or Move the fuck out.
See u lurking kubiac got anything to say?
He left seeking honor and integrity in others. Problem being he never had any within. Does not matter where you post what matters is in your heart and gut.
You gotta learn to hate nicotine for what it is..poison.
It works for me and Sept' 12
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: mattyf118 on July 11, 2014, 08:59:00 PM
Quote from: Ron_Cross
Quote from: E&C's
Quote from: E&C's
Quote from: E&C's
Quote from: Bulldog0311
Quote from: slug.go
Quote from: Roamcountry
Quote from: srans
Quote from: chewie
Quote from: Kubiak
I'm really freaked out that I wont' stick with the quit, I'm using nicotine patch and chew gum all day long. This is at least the 5th time I've quit, last time in 2008 when I got married, I was good for 9 months. I want to give my wife an anniversary surprise this Thursday that I'm 2 weeks quit and need some help getting through this. Thanks to everyone that there is a forum I can speak out to.
You didn't...

*sigh*
Damn. That's two with over 500 + in one week. My group had 1 over the weekend. Who's next? It won't be me. You got my word!!!
You've affected a lot of people here, I think you owe an explanation.
Damn...
This is the proof man. We are a herd. When you stray from the herd that nic bitch lion is out there just waiting on you. 5 days, hall of fame, 500 or 5000 days it just don't matter. She wants you dead and she's never gonna stop trying. You will never be safe.
What the fuck! Its amazing what the bitch can do to a man. You sound a lot more like the little bitch who first posted here than the 500+ day quit bad ass that you were last week. Answer the questions, make a amends and keep your fucking word this time. You better not disappear again!
And you better start posting with October as well as your old group. Disrespectful as hell to post in the asylum and not with October. Man the fuck up or Move the fuck out.
See u lurking kubiac got anything to say?
He left seeking honor and integrity in others. Problem being he never had any within. Does not matter where you post what matters is in your heart and gut.
^^^^^this a thousand times. Doesn't matter where you put your name. You could put it on 700 websites every morning, doesn't matter a fucking bit. You could have 10,000 posts or you could have 1. Quit is quit, some people get it, some people don't. I have never heard such addict babble bullshit
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on July 11, 2014, 10:08:00 PM
There is no fucking way. This dude was a rock. He helped me profoundly. This rocks my world. I am fearful, I am not healed. Back to basics for me. Failure is still possible, SCARY. Maybe even likely. I will not take my eye off the ball.

Fuck Kubiak. Really? Damn. Come back to quit, suck it up. You do not need it. You know this. What happened??
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Diesel2112 on July 11, 2014, 10:58:00 PM
Quote from: Kubiak
No Cave Here!!! The best part of going through a funk, or a crave, or a "wow i am a piece of shit addict" phase is that when you get through it, and believe me you do get through it, is the the other side is GLOOOOORIOUS!!!

Religion preaches that difficult times strengthen your faith. Putting fire to steel and beating on it with a hammer makes the steel stronger. Same goes for quit.
I guess this was bullshit. Sounded good at the time, eh?
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: mattyf118 on July 11, 2014, 11:53:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
There is no fucking way. This dude was a rock. He helped me profoundly. This rocks my world. I am fearful, I am not healed. Back to basics for me. Failure is still possible, SCARY. Maybe even likely. I will not take my eye off the ball.

Fuck Kubiak. Really? Damn. Come back to quit, suck it up. You do not need it. You know this. What happened??
As hard as it may seem, don't let this cave weaken your resolve. Let it strengthen it. People always say cave negatively affect them, not me, people caving makes my quit stronger because it lets me know that none of us have this beat. Not at day 7, 70, 700 or 7,000. It reminds me why we come here, why we post roll, why we reach out and why we keep ourselves accountable. I don't know if kubiak will be back, but if you need someone to talk to I'm pm'ing you my number. Use it anytime, proud to quit with you
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Grizzlyhasclaws on July 12, 2014, 06:04:00 AM
Quote from: mattyf118
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
There is no fucking way. This dude was a rock. He helped me profoundly. This rocks my world. I am fearful, I am not healed. Back to basics for me. Failure is still possible, SCARY. Maybe even likely. I will not take my eye off the ball.

Fuck Kubiak. Really? Damn. Come back to quit, suck it up. You do not need it. You know this. What happened??
As hard as it may seem, don't let this cave weaken your resolve. Let it strengthen it. People always say cave negatively affect them, not me, people caving makes my quit stronger because it lets me know that none of us have this beat. Not at day 7, 70, 700 or 7,000. It reminds me why we come here, why we post roll, why we reach out and why we keep ourselves accountable. I don't know if kubiak will be back, but if you need someone to talk to I'm pm'ing you my number. Use it anytime, proud to quit with you
I guess radical head and neck cancer surgeries no longer scare this guy. No more saliva, tube feedings, inability to swallow, permanent tracheotomy, vocal chord removal, etc, etc, are an acceptable future for this dipshit.

How people come here and then lose sight of the consequence of continued usage of this substance is beyond me. Sure nicotine withdrawal sucks. But the truth is you feel a ton better in a relatively short time. Use this program to stay quit. Live longer.

Don't be idiots.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: Steakbomb18 on July 12, 2014, 08:28:00 AM
Quote from: grizzlyhasclaws
Quote from: mattyf118
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
There is no fucking way. This dude was a rock. He helped me profoundly. This rocks my world. I am fearful, I am not healed. Back to basics for me. Failure is still possible, SCARY. Maybe even likely. I will not take my eye off the ball.

Fuck Kubiak. Really? Damn. Come back to quit, suck it up. You do not need it. You know this. What happened??
As hard as it may seem, don't let this cave weaken your resolve. Let it strengthen it. People always say cave negatively affect them, not me, people caving makes my quit stronger because it lets me know that none of us have this beat. Not at day 7, 70, 700 or 7,000. It reminds me why we come here, why we post roll, why we reach out and why we keep ourselves accountable. I don't know if kubiak will be back, but if you need someone to talk to I'm pm'ing you my number. Use it anytime, proud to quit with you
I guess radical head and neck cancer surgeries no longer scare this guy. No more saliva, tube feedings, inability to swallow, permanent tracheotomy, vocal chord removal, etc, etc, are an acceptable future for this dipshit.

How people come here and then lose sight of the consequence of continued usage of this substance is beyond me. Sure nicotine withdrawal sucks. But the truth is you feel a ton better in a relatively short time. Use this program to stay quit. Live longer.

Don't be idiots.
I couldn't agree with Matty more. Yes, I hate when people cave, basically because I don't want people to cave AND they most likely promised that they would not Cave on that day. But,...I need these caves. I need the knowledge that no matter how long I quit or how mature my quit becomes, I MUST be vigilant. Vigilance is paramount and there is always room to add more accountability and brotherhood to your quit.

Your quit is about you, but make it bigger than you.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: 30isEnuff on July 12, 2014, 09:15:00 AM
Quote from: Steakbomb18
Quote from: grizzlyhasclaws
Quote from: mattyf118
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
There is no fucking way. This dude was a rock. He helped me profoundly. This rocks my world. I am fearful, I am not healed. Back to basics for me. Failure is still possible, SCARY. Maybe even likely. I will not take my eye off the ball.

Fuck Kubiak. Really? Damn. Come back to quit, suck it up. You do not need it. You know this. What happened??
As hard as it may seem, don't let this cave weaken your resolve. Let it strengthen it. People always say cave negatively affect them, not me, people caving makes my quit stronger because it lets me know that none of us have this beat. Not at day 7, 70, 700 or 7,000. It reminds me why we come here, why we post roll, why we reach out and why we keep ourselves accountable. I don't know if kubiak will be back, but if you need someone to talk to I'm pm'ing you my number. Use it anytime, proud to quit with you
I guess radical head and neck cancer surgeries no longer scare this guy. No more saliva, tube feedings, inability to swallow, permanent tracheotomy, vocal chord removal, etc, etc, are an acceptable future for this dipshit.

How people come here and then lose sight of the consequence of continued usage of this substance is beyond me. Sure nicotine withdrawal sucks. But the truth is you feel a ton better in a relatively short time. Use this program to stay quit. Live longer.

Don't be idiots.
I couldn't agree with Matty more. Yes, I hate when people cave, basically because I don't want people to cave AND they most likely promised that they would not Cave on that day. But,...I need these caves. I need the knowledge that no matter how long I quit or how mature my quit becomes, I MUST be vigilant. Vigilance is paramount and there is always room to add more accountability and brotherhood to your quit.

Your quit is about you, but make it bigger than you.
post roll (no matter where you are)
keep your word (like your day1)
wake and repeat (when you're feet hit the floor)

QUIT
I like it.
I love it.
I want some more of it.
Life is worth living...slow suicide is for the worms. We are what we think. Gotta the brain to know what nic really is...poison. We are addicts, addicts quit daily, cavers cave. If you gotta a drinkin' addiction...deal with that too. Life can be good. It's great to be quit. Nic and alcohol took my mom and all of her family (except the one that did neither) early. The lesson is there in front of me...I know what to do...
post roll
keep your word
wake and repeat
If I can, why can't you?
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: worktowin on July 12, 2014, 11:47:00 AM
Quote from: 30isEnuff
Quote from: Steakbomb18
Quote from: grizzlyhasclaws
Quote from: mattyf118
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
There is no fucking way. This dude was a rock. He helped me profoundly. This rocks my world. I am fearful, I am not healed. Back to basics for me. Failure is still possible, SCARY. Maybe even likely. I will not take my eye off the ball.

Fuck Kubiak. Really? Damn. Come back to quit, suck it up. You do not need it. You know this. What happened??
As hard as it may seem, don't let this cave weaken your resolve. Let it strengthen it. People always say cave negatively affect them, not me, people caving makes my quit stronger because it lets me know that none of us have this beat. Not at day 7, 70, 700 or 7,000. It reminds me why we come here, why we post roll, why we reach out and why we keep ourselves accountable. I don't know if kubiak will be back, but if you need someone to talk to I'm pm'ing you my number. Use it anytime, proud to quit with you
I guess radical head and neck cancer surgeries no longer scare this guy. No more saliva, tube feedings, inability to swallow, permanent tracheotomy, vocal chord removal, etc, etc, are an acceptable future for this dipshit.

How people come here and then lose sight of the consequence of continued usage of this substance is beyond me. Sure nicotine withdrawal sucks. But the truth is you feel a ton better in a relatively short time. Use this program to stay quit. Live longer.

Don't be idiots.
I couldn't agree with Matty more. Yes, I hate when people cave, basically because I don't want people to cave AND they most likely promised that they would not Cave on that day. But,...I need these caves. I need the knowledge that no matter how long I quit or how mature my quit becomes, I MUST be vigilant. Vigilance is paramount and there is always room to add more accountability and brotherhood to your quit.

Your quit is about you, but make it bigger than you.
post roll (no matter where you are)
keep your word (like your day1)
wake and repeat (when you're feet hit the floor)

QUIT
I like it.
I love it.
I want some more of it.
Life is worth living...slow suicide is for the worms. We are what we think. Gotta the brain to know what nic really is...poison. We are addicts, addicts quit daily, cavers cave. If you gotta a drinkin' addiction...deal with that too. Life can be good. It's great to be quit. Nic and alcohol took my mom and all of her family (except the one that did neither) early. The lesson is there in front of me...I know what to do...
post roll
keep your word
wake and repeat
If I can, why can't you?
These guys on day one, two, three that cave piss me off. We can do anything for a day. Post roll. Keep your word. Yeah, those first few days (and there are tough days beyond day three but I'm just using that for an example...) are damn hard, but we can do anything for a day. Seeing people cave at this point just baffle me. Did quitting become bored? Did you plan it? Did you lie and not keep your word? All of these are integrity issues in my book, but I am curious.

One day at a time, this becomes a way of life. We give our word. We keep it. We have a dream and wake up sweating and shaking? We keep our word. We have a crave? We keep our word. What I hate most is that new quitters are reading this and might be discouraged. I'm not a new quitter, and I'm not discouraged! I post my word every day and I keep it! New quitters - if you are a man/woman of your word, you can do this. It isn't impossible. This thread is not an example of a veteran quitter.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: 30yraddict on July 12, 2014, 02:24:00 PM
Wise words all over this thread. They may fall deaf on Kubiak's ears, but they are great lessons for everyone else reading this thread.

I have battled the nic bitch for 1246 days. The beginning of the battle was a frontal attack.. no way to forget I was an addict... no way not to acknowledge just one dip would lead to another, and another, and another. I hit about day 30, and REALLY started to enjoy my newly found freedom. You know what? It scared the shit out of me. I had failed too many times before, and I knew that the minute I became complacent the nic-bitch was going to start whispering in my ear.

1246 days- I still have occasional cravings. When they hit the first thing I think about is my promise that I made. The people that I would let down. 1246 days I have posted roll. It means as much to me today as it did on day 1. It has to. To let it fade is to be careless with the freedom that I have. 33 years a slave. 3+ years free. I REFUSE to be a slave again.

1246 days of posting roll. A promise. A celebration, A chance to say Thank You KTC, Thank you to the hundreds of people here that helped get me this far.

I wouldn't miss it for the world.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: sixercountry on July 13, 2014, 09:08:00 PM
Quote from: 30yrAddict
Wise words all over this thread. They may fall deaf on Kubiak's ears, but they are great lessons for everyone else reading this thread.

I have battled the nic bitch for 1246 days. The beginning of the battle was a frontal attack.. no way to forget I was an addict... no way not to acknowledge just one dip would lead to another, and another, and another. I hit about day 30, and REALLY started to enjoy my newly found freedom. You know what? It scared the shit out of me. I had failed too many times before, and I knew that the minute I became complacent the nic-bitch was going to start whispering in my ear.

1246 days- I still have occasional cravings. When they hit the first thing I think about is my promise that I made. The people that I would let down. 1246 days I have posted roll. It means as much to me today as it did on day 1. It has to. To let it fade is to be careless with the freedom that I have. 33 years a slave. 3+ years free. I REFUSE to be a slave again.

1246 days of posting roll. A promise. A celebration, A chance to say Thank You KTC, Thank you to the hundreds of people here that helped get me this far.

I wouldn't miss it for the world.
Roll out dude.....everything was good around here for 700 plus days. We saved your life. Just a joke, that's all.
Title: Re: This one time at band camp
Post by: sixercountry on July 13, 2014, 09:13:00 PM
Quote from: sixercountry
Quote from: 30yrAddict
Wise words all over this thread. They may fall deaf on Kubiak's ears, but they are great lessons for everyone else reading this thread.

I have battled the nic bitch for 1246 days. The beginning of the battle was a frontal attack.. no way to forget I was an addict... no way not to acknowledge just one dip would lead to another, and another, and another. I hit about day 30, and REALLY started to enjoy my newly found freedom. You know what? It scared the shit out of me. I had failed too many times before, and I knew that the minute I became complacent the nic-bitch was going to start whispering in my ear.

1246 days- I still have occasional cravings. When they hit the first thing I think about is my promise that I made. The people that I would let down. 1246 days I have posted roll. It means as much to me today as it did on day 1. It has to. To let it fade is to be careless with the freedom that I have. 33 years a slave. 3+ years free. I REFUSE to be a slave again.

1246 days of posting roll. A promise. A celebration, A chance to say Thank You KTC, Thank you to the hundreds of people here that helped get me this far.

I wouldn't miss it for the world.
Roll out dude.....everything was good around here for 700 plus days. We saved your life. Just a joke, that's all.
Meant to be a reply not a quote....not directed at 30yr