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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: s4s on June 30, 2011, 05:47:00 PM
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Hello all, I am new to the site and am wanting to quit dipping after almost 10 years of dipping. I have tried once before "Cold Turkey" and it was about 3 years ago. I have a 4 year old son and a 7 month old son, and I have a wonderful wife. I WANT to quit and have wanted to quit for a little while now. My wife came up with an idea that may help, but I'll get to that in a second. I go through about a half a can a day of Skoal Straight long-cut and I own two businesses. With that being said I have a lot of stress that I use dip to manage. I know this stress, and the after meal dip will be my hardest battles moving forward. This week I have started a pre-quit attempt at backing off to two dips a day, not after a meal and not while driving (those are my two triggers) just while I am sitting alone working or facebooking. I have a big meeting on July 12 that I need to be "on my game" for and I am worried that if I go through with my quit date of July 4th that I will be unfocused or in the "dip fog" for my important meeting.
Is this a legit concern?
Here was my plan, my wife came up with this great idea, and to avoid the details it works like this: On July 4th I stop dipping and chew gum and use hard sugar free candies for the oral fixation, and she would reward me with extra special sex to combat the withdrawal and cravings that I will have. She knows I will be an ass sometimes, and that the rewards may have to last 90 days, but she is 100% backing me,
But I still wonder is this a new idea or has this worked for other people?
I think anything that takes your mind off of dip is a step in the right direction, but when you quit do you loose your sex drive? Will this be a flawed attempt and only add to the frustration?
So I turn to you past and current quiters, please help answer these looming questions so I can move on to a tobacco free life and start setting the example to my boys that I know they need.
Thanks,
s4s
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Dear S4S,
First let me congratulate you on contriving a value system that rewards sex. You are awesome.
Second, QUIT NOW. Not on July 4. Not one more tin. Not one more dip. It takes only one dip to get cancer. As much as sex is awesome, your wife isn't going to want to bang you without a bottom jaw I guessing...at least not as much. So QUIT NOW. Go to the Welcome Center (the fem color link in the upper left). We are cold turkey, accountability. As much as quitting for someone else is important, you have to want it for yourself even more. You have to want to be quit...can you picture who/what S4S is without nicotine?
In terms of sex drive, I can only speak for myself. I can't say not using had a negative impact on my drive. I increased my exercise simultaneously as I quit so I can't separate the two. As from day one of our relationship, I continue to be a hormone overloaded teenager grabbing at Mrs. Soul's fanny and breasts by "accident" all day, all night.
Yours truly,
Souliman
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The new gold standard. A currency we can all have faith in. You might want to move up you quit date to.....now. Ka-Ching. Transaction please. Might save your jaw as well.
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Quit now. The sooner you stop, the better. I'm on Day 2. Wish I was on Day 20. Would've been if I started sooner. But whatever you do, Quit!!
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Congrats on coming up with a plan to quit s4s.
Now DO IT. TODAY!
Waiting through the weekend is only going to prolong the agony and make next week worse, assuming you stick with the 4th. Same thing with waiting until the 12th, now you're two weeks behind with nothing to show for it.
Your meeting will be fine. Your sex drive will be fine, especially once Mrs s4s knows that you've quit your disgusting addiction and gets turned on by it.
The bad news is that the first 3 days are the worst. The good news is that you only have to do one at a time, and everybody is here to help you get through it.
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Why put off the brutality? Get the worst part over before you go back to work on Tuesday.
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I agree. QUIT NOW. Eleven days ago, I came in here with a plan to quit, too. I was going to quit as soon as my fake snuff showed up. I caught hell for that and at first wasn't sure why. The problem was that I, like you and everyone else on this site, am an addict. By not quitting the moment I came in here, I was choosing to let the addiction do my bargaining for me and to let my addiction tell me that I wasn't going to quit today. But what happens when we keep allowing our addiction to tell us, "not today, rather tomorrow?" We don't quit, or when we do quit, we fail. The biggest and most important aspect of the quit is making the decision to quit right now, this very moment, and be done with it. That and being amid other people who were tough enough to make that decision yesterday, today, and will most likely make it tomorrow is the basis of this site. By waiting for a quit date, you're just delaying the inevitable and allowing the addiction to maintain the upper hand which it has maintained for years. At this moment, you need to take the upper hand, not worry about how shitty you are going to feel for the next several days, and QUIT NOW.
I was pretty much right where you are now (minus the sex plan) eleven days ago. I wanted to quit, but wasn't yet ready to say "Fuck this addiction, fuck nicotine, I'm done." That's where you gotta be and the only way to get there is to quit right now.
I DARE YOU.
I'll quit right here with you.
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Is this a legit concern?
You keep on delaying and delaying and delaying the quit...searching for that "right" time and "plan" to quit.
That time ain't ever going to come buddy.
Then one day you wake up and realize the years have blown by and nicotine has taken your life...be it from cancer, heart disease, or lunging off a cliff trying to recover a dropped can.
You know what happens then???
Some other fucker ends up having extra special sex with your wife. But I guess that may not be a legit concern to you.
Your call.
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I do appreciate the quick and motivating responses you have all provided, however I am going to stick with my July 4th "Independence Day" idea and make it a day I will always remember. Even this site itself suggest picking a day and sticking with it.
Thank you all for keeping me focused on keeping my day and not changing it till after my meeting on the 12th. I look forward to the journey (really the result) and hope I make a lot of friends during it.
Thanks again,
s4s (sex 4 skoal)
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What if one of those dips you have between now and Monday is the one that turns that cancer gene on in that one cell that starts the rapid demise?
A little someting for you to think about each time you reach for that can.
:ph43r:
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The new gold standard. A currency we can all have faith in. You might want to move up you quit date to.....now. Ka-Ching. Transaction please. Might save your jaw as well.
I owe you an apology. Sorry. I was so amused by the sex thing that I failed to address the real issue in your post, and that is future tense quitting. Quitting tomorrow or after the big meeting or after the test is over or after [insert any damn thing you want here].
Read this: index.php?showtopic=4938 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=4938) Real life people, real life shit.
You say you use to manage stress. I beg to differ. You use because you are a drug addict. That is right, a drug addict. Read this. It discusses how addicts have to control the amount of nicotine in their system to manage stress: http://www.killthecan.org/robs/ilikechewing.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/robs/ilikechewing.asp)
You got a three day weekend. Flush your drugs down the toilet and quit. You will feel so much better. Future tense quitting is such addict talk. You and I could get on an alcoholic site or a pill site and we would read someone talking about quitting in the future. Bullshit. I am an addict. I quit today.
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Your plan sucks! Be a man and quit now.
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What if one of those dips you have between now and Monday is the one that turns that cancer gene on in that one cell that starts the rapid demise?
A little someting for you to think about each time you reach for that can.
:ph43r:
Imagine how great Independence Day will feel then? Imagine the big day on the 12th if a strange sore shows up on the 10th or 11th.
Everyday you use you are buying tickets for the Big C Super Lotto. Everyday I don't use my body becomes healthier. I hear a commercial on the radio often about somebody dying of oral cancer on average once every hour and everytime I hear that commercial I thank the Lord I'm quit and imagine the panic the announcement would cause if I were a user.
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why the fuck is July 4th better than today?
Afraid you won't enjoy the fireworks without a dip?
Give me one good reason that makes that imaginary day in the future better than right now, and getting to use for a couple more days doesn't count. Your just making another excuse to keep dipping for a little bit longer.
Any day you quit is independence day, there is nothing special about waiting or picking a date. I will be suprised if you show your face here on the 5th. The time to quit is now.
READ THIS AND THINK ABOUT WAITING
index.php?showtopic=4938 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=4938)
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I do appreciate the quick and motivating responses you have all provided, however I am going to stick with my July 4th "Independence Day" idea and make it a day I will always remember. Even this site itself suggest picking a day and sticking with it.
You are in the exact same spot I was in 2 weeks ago. Still not willing to throw the stuff to the curb and allowing your addiction to do your bidding for you. It's not you saying "I'll quit on July 4th," it's your addiction. How many other times have you told yourself you are going to quit tomorrow, or next week, or next month? How many failed New Year's Resolutions have you racked up? If you are serious about quitting you need to take the bull by the horns and do it today. Quitting is hard and waiting until the 4th isn't going to make it any easier.
Trust me, s4s, when I was in your spot 2 weeks ago, I put in a long post (read 'Carrying over from bsim' in the introduction section) trying to justify why it was O.K. to wait and quit on a day other than today. Truth of the matter is, there is no justification at all for waiting. The explanation is that you are an addict behaving like and addict. But again, no justification.
Bottom line: If you are in fact strong enough to quit, you'll buck up and do it tonight.
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I do appreciate the quick and motivating responses you have all provided, however I am going to stick with my July 4th "Independence Day" idea and make it a day I will always remember. Even this site itself suggest picking a day and sticking with it.
Thank you all for keeping me focused on keeping my day and not changing it till after my meeting on the 12th. I look forward to the journey (really the result) and hope I make a lot of friends during it.
Thanks again,
s4s (sex 4 skoal)
Quit today! It takes three days for nicotine to work itself out of your system. On "Independence Day" you can be truly FREE from the grasp of your drug of choice.
Sure glad the founding fathers didn't put off the signing of the Declaration of Independence until a time that was more conducive to some memorable fantasy plan. Hope you enjoy your dip...slave.
Let me know if you are serious and I will quit with you today and support you unconditionally. But if you do wait to quit on the fourth, nevermind, I'm predicting a cave. In that case PM me on Columbus Day for your second go around, (maybe you can discover a new world of nicotine free life), or Christmas (you can unwrap a whole new you). Come on man...wake the fuck up.
Or, you can prove me wrong. But I'm not...you still think like an addict, but haven't admitted it to yourself.
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LOOT likes this Dante kid. Wonder what he would trade for sex...
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LOOT likes this Dante kid. Wonder what he would trade for sex...
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Quit today! It takes three days for nicotine to work itself out of your system. On "Independence Day" you can be truly FREE from the grasp of your drug of choice.
Sure glad the founding fathers didn't put off the signing of the Declaration of Independence until a time that was more conducive to some memorable fantasy plan. Hope you enjoy your dip...slave.
Let me know if you are serious and I will quit with you today and support you unconditionally. But if you do wait to quit on the fourth, nevermind, I'm predicting a cave. In that case PM me on Columbus Day for your second go around, (maybe you can discover a new world of nicotine free life), or Christmas (you can unwrap a whole new you). Come on man...wake the fuck up.
Or, you can prove me wrong. But I'm not...you still think like an addict, but haven't admitted it to yourself.
Ok Dante, You make a good point (Columbus Day was the kicker).
Actually all of you make a good point. Any day I quit will be the one that means something to me. So today is the day, I quit. I am trading in the Skoal Brotherhood for the KTC Brotherhood. Never again will I dip, chew whatever else. I'm done with it. You all are right, I (the addict) am putting it off and I can see that now.
Dip has decided enough things in my life, so this decision I am taking control of. My quit date is 6/30/2011 at 9:29 CST.
Goodbye Skoal, Hello withdrawal. I welcome withdrawal and with each craving I will remember that I am the reason the craving is there not the dip. Because it was my decision to let the cravings happen, not the dip. And it will be my decision to let the cravings come and go without giving in.
Thank you all so much for the push, I can already see why this site can make the difference.
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Waiting can be a fatal choice....just ask my friend who is about to endure 12 hours of surgery in the A.M. to try and remove as much cancer as his tobacco addiction caused...the rest will be burned with radiation and chemicals in the desperate move to save his life....be proactive,not a victim of your own selfishness.
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Quit today! It takes three days for nicotine to work itself out of your system. On "Independence Day" you can be truly FREE from the grasp of your drug of choice.
Sure glad the founding fathers didn't put off the signing of the Declaration of Independence until a time that was more conducive to some memorable fantasy plan. Hope you enjoy your dip...slave.
Let me know if you are serious and I will quit with you today and support you unconditionally. But if you do wait to quit on the fourth, nevermind, I'm predicting a cave. In that case PM me on Columbus Day for your second go around, (maybe you can discover a new world of nicotine free life), or Christmas (you can unwrap a whole new you). Come on man...wake the fuck up.
Or, you can prove me wrong. But I'm not...you still think like an addict, but haven't admitted it to yourself.
Ok Dante, You make a good point (Columbus Day was the kicker).
Actually all of you make a good point. Any day I quit will be the one that means something to me. So today is the day, I quit. I am trading in the Skoal Brotherhood for the KTC Brotherhood. Never again will I dip, chew whatever else. I'm done with it. You all are right, I (the addict) am putting it off and I can see that now.
Dip has decided enough things in my life, so this decision I am taking control of. My quit date is 6/30/2011 at 9:29 CST.
Goodbye Skoal, Hello withdrawal. I welcome withdrawal and with each craving I will remember that I am the reason the craving is there not the dip. Because it was my decision to let the cravings happen, not the dip. And it will be my decision to let the cravings come and go without giving in.
Thank you all so much for the push, I can already see why this site can make the difference.
Welcome. Glad to be quit with you TODAY! Go on over to October 2011 and post a day 1. Welcome to the suck. PM me if you need anything.
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Great life changing choice s4s.....pm me if you need a number....proud to quit with you!
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embrace the suck , congrats on saving your life
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Way to go dude!
The suck is terrible but I promise that if you had tried to keep a "quit date" you would have failed. I have been on this site for about 136 day and I have probably seen 50 people with a "quit date" never show up on that date. Maybe one out of 51 has showed up.
Don't screw with yourself. This is not anything more than making the decision to quit each and every day. That is it. Honestly it is not that hard, not at all, but it does suck. Just make the decision and your good to go. Come back tomorrow morning and make the decision again.
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And by the way, s4s.... Sounds like you have a very special lady for a wife.. Better hang on to her with all you got buddy because there ain't too many like her...
Good decision on starting the quit now.
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glad to be quit with you today
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Any day I quit will be the one that means something to me.
Welcome. March 8, 2011 is my date. It was a Wednesday. I'm pretty good about remembering dates; birthdays, anniversaries such. I'm certain I'll always remember March 8th. I can be proud of it now and every year it comes around. Or, if I ever fail myself and my brothers, that date would haunt me for the rest of my life. I choose to be proud and nicotine free.
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Good shit in here boys...the program is working. Drink the KTC cool aid.
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S4S!!! You're the fucking man! Welcome to the Hunt for Quit October! Learn how to post roll and I expect to see you there every day. Also, can you have your wife talk to my wife?
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Good decision, s4s. Way to take control. Glad to be quit with you today!
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Very nice, s4s. Glad you made the right choice.
I was gonna be like you and pick a date in the future, have "one more dip", etc, etc. Then I realized that was stupid and just decided the day I signed up and logged in was my quit day. No more waiting. Dip in the trash - start quit immediately. That was yesterday.
Day 2 almost over. I'm still quit.
Stay strong, brother. I'm with ya. We all are.
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Great decision S4S, Congratulations.
It sounds like you and your wife have a great "reward" plan which I believe will help you. Try to remember to unload your rage and other BS here on this site and NOT on your family.
Stay quit...today. That's all you have to do buddy, stay quit for this moment.
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Welcome to FREEDOM s4s! I'm quit with you today.
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Still going strong, no dip to wake up to and no dip after breakfast. Jaw getting sore from chewing on gum lol.
Thanks for the encouragement guys. I can see this is gonna be a long fucking day.
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This is fuckin' awesome. I get a big quit woody every time I read shit like this. Way to man up s4s...this quit date shit is nic-fog logic at it's best. Leave that shit behind and start thinking for yourself. Way to take control, brother. Now get some numbers and start building a support system. Check your inbox for mine....
Also, that sex for skoal thing is cute and all, but consider putting some real thought into how hard this quit is going to be for your wife. You may need to figure out how to support each other on a slightly deeper level...maybe not...but something to think about.
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Still going strong, no dip to wake up to and no dip after breakfast. Jaw getting sore from chewing on gum lol.
Thanks for the encouragement guys. I can see this is gonna be a long fucking day.
Dig the approach. Baby stepping through the morning shit...baby stepping the drive to work...baby stepping midday office sex...
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Congratulations on your quit. Now you need to read some more. You need to come up with a quit plan. You need to reach out and make some contacts here. Exchange numbers. Text or call if you feel weak.
No drinking this weekend. None, zip, zero nada, null. That would be your quickest way to a cave.
My quit day is Jan. 23, 2006. I remember it. You'll remember yours too.
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I am going to stick with my July 4th "Independence Day" idea and make it a day I will always remember.
i took my last dip on novemberer 12 in 2008. i woke up on novemberer 13 and posted day 1. that day and today are the most importint days in my quit. there aint nothin else speshul bout novemberer 13. but i aint never gonna forgit it neether.
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First off, glad you decided to quit! I'm on day 44, and let me tell you it feels amazing knowing I did it. I couldn't have done it without these guys (and girls) here.
Secondly, I wish I got laid for everyday I was quit. No fair dude!
These first few days might be tough, but it's worth it knowing you got another day down without that evil nic bitch.
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this thread is fucking beautiful. a great example of how KTC works.
s4s, great decision. i was going to quit on my anniversary, but flushed my last 1.5 cans 16 days early. best decision i've made in a long time.
good work, crew. you just saved 2 kids from losing their dad. that's important shit.
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Each time I have a free moment It comes back. I get on here and read your post, cheap some gum, and move the fuck on. Thanks guys, and gals.
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Each time I have a free moment It comes back. I get on here and read your post, cheap some gum, and move the fuck on. Thanks guys, and gals.
Keep going man. One day at a time, hell one hour at a time if you have too. Just don't put that shit back in your mouth!
Glad to be quit with you today!
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Good to see your a man of reason, welcome aboard!!
Drink the cool aid, sink into your recliner and enjoy the suck.
It wil get better.
Soooo much better!
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Still going strong....
I got more quit in my right nut than most people got in there whole damn mind.
I got quit all day and all night
My quit determines when the word will end
My quit told God to cool it down on the 7th day
I quit again every time I breathe.
My quit determines what your quit does.
My quit tried to fuck your quit, but mine was too big to fit in that pus (no offense guys just staying pumped)
More to come next craving....
Later,
s4s
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Still going strong....
I got more quit in my right nut than most people got in there whole damn mind.
I got quit all day and all night
My quit determines when the word will end
My quit told God to cool it down on the 7th day
I quit again every time I breathe.
My quit determines what your quit does.
My quit tried to fuck your quit, but mine was too big to fit in that pus (no offense guys just staying pumped)
More to come next craving....
Later,
s4s
OH man...we will rise up and grab the nic bitch by the couchie and make her our puppet. I'm feeling it s4s...we're going the distance. Bring the quit brother.
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...My quit determines what your quit does...
This is awesome, what a complete 180 from yesterday!
Your quit makes mine stronger...keep it up!
I'm proud of you...and your quit!
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...My quit determines what your quit does...
This is awesome, what a complete 180 from yesterday!
Your quit makes mine stronger...keep it up!
I'm proud of you...and your quit!
Thanks man. I would still have a fat one in putting it off if it wasn't for you "Columbus Day".
I got this quit. This site is the key.
It needs an app???????Right?????
Like where you click here to post role.
Gives you funny shit to look at when craving
Let's you chat on the go if you need it
Keeps track of your quit
you hit a button before you cave and a crazy pic of cancer or someone saying some loud you pussy message comes up.
I cannot be the first one who has thought of this....
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...My quit determines what your quit does...
This is awesome, what a complete 180 from yesterday!
Your quit makes mine stronger...keep it up!
I'm proud of you...and your quit!
Thanks man. I would still have a fat one in putting it off if it wasn't for you "Columbus Day".
I got this quit. This site is the key.
It needs an app???????Right?????
Like where you click here to post role.
Gives you funny shit to look at when craving
Let's you chat on the go if you need it
Keeps track of your quit
you hit a button before you cave and a crazy pic of cancer or someone saying some loud you pussy message comes up.
I cannot be the first one who has thought of this....
Write one up. Put it in the Android Market. I'll give you $0.99.
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Late night craving is keeping me up, Got a long drive tomorrow. Things not looking good for making this quit easy. But nobody said it would be easy.
Oh i'm not trying to get all the "you can do it's", or "i believe in you's"
I'm trying to say that tomorrow is awesome, cause I am going in to the Nic bitch's house after this break up, where she feels safe and like she's got the upper hand.
And I'm taking my shit back. My life, my decisions, my shits (yeah I said it), my snacking (maybe i will stay up for cookies, maybe not), and even my cd's. Screw her and her controlling ass.
Y'all going with me????
s4s
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Late night craving is keeping me up, Got a long drive tomorrow. Things not looking good for making this quit easy. But nobody said it would be easy.
Oh i'm not trying to get all the "you can do it's", or "i believe in you's"
I'm trying to say that tomorrow is awesome, cause I am going in to the Nic bitch's house after this break up, where she feels safe and like she's got the upper hand.
And I'm taking my shit back. My life, my decisions, my shits (yeah I said it), my snacking (maybe i will stay up for cookies, maybe not), and even my cd's. Screw her and her controlling ass.
Y'all going with me????
s4s
For sure, bitch. I'm beating that fucker back tomorrow too. Just like today.
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Slept in. I mean i woke up and then went back to sleep. Kinda nice. The second time I woke up I didn't have the morning craving. I haven't ate yet, that will be the test. My wife is still very supportive. And since I already shared the reward system, it's a great day to be a quiter lol. I'll post some pics later (not too graphic) just to help take the minds off the quit. That's how much I care.
Y'all have a great weekend, happy independence day.
s4s
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My quit date is 6/30/2011 at 9:29 CST.
That makes today day 3. Generally the day you stop using is day 1. Your choice, though.
glad to be quit with you,
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My wife is still very supportive. And since I already shared the reward system, it's a great day to be a quiter lol. I'll post some pics later (not too graphic) just to help take the minds off the quit. That's how much I care.
s4s
'Popcorn'
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My wife is still very supportive. And since I already shared the reward system, it's a great day to be a quiter lol. I'll post some pics later (not too graphic) just to help take the minds off the quit. That's how much I care.
s4s
'Popcorn'
'Popcorn' 'Popcorn' 'Popcorn'
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My quit date is 6/30/2011 at 9:29 CST.
That makes today day 3. Generally the day you stop using is day 1. Your choice, though.
glad to be quit with you,
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Give yourself some credit s4s. Day 3 it is! Be proud of that!
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My wife is still very supportive. And since I already shared the reward system, it's a great day to be a quiter lol. I'll post some pics later (not too graphic) just to help take the minds off the quit. That's how much I care.
s4s
'Popcorn'
'Popcorn' 'Popcorn' 'Popcorn'
i'll get my thong
'assman'
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My wife is still very supportive. And since I already shared the reward system, it's a great day to be a quiter lol. I'll post some pics later (not too graphic) just to help take the minds off the quit. That's how much I care.
s4s
'Popcorn'
'Popcorn' 'Popcorn' 'Popcorn'
i'll get my thong
'assman'
Just for the photo op, right?
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My wife is still very supportive. And since I already shared the reward system, it's a great day to be a quiter lol. I'll post some pics later (not too graphic) just to help take the minds off the quit. That's how much I care.
s4s
'Popcorn'
'Popcorn' 'Popcorn' 'Popcorn'
i'll get my thong
'assman'
Just for the photo op, right?
'finger point'
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No pictures gonna be posted. Sorry to get your hopes up but that's how life is sometimes.
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No pictures gonna be posted. Sorry to get your hopes up but that's how life is sometimes.
That's okay still glad to quit with ya.
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No pictures gonna be posted. Sorry to get your hopes up but that's how life is sometimes.
That's okay still glad to quit with ya.
Just kidding Check out the avatar pic!!! What up. She is cheering all quitters on with the KTC and then a shout out for her hubby s4s.
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No pictures gonna be posted. Sorry to get your hopes up but that's how life is sometimes.
That's okay still glad to quit with ya.
Just kidding Check out the avatar pic!!! What up. She is cheering all quitters on with the KTC and then a shout out for her hubby s4s.
Good deal bro!
No offense to your wife (she has a GREAT looking ass) but I would rather see you quit than see here ass. But please do keep that avatar, please.
Make a deal with me, you cave and I get some of that "special" treatment from her.
And again, I will say, I would rather you stay quit so make the deal with me and remember it any time you want a dip.
Oh, and tell your wife I am only 25 and I look NOTHING like Loot. So she should not be afraid of you making that promise.
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No pictures gonna be posted. Sorry to get your hopes up but that's how life is sometimes.
That's okay still glad to quit with ya.
Just kidding Check out the avatar pic!!! What up. She is cheering all quitters on with the KTC and then a shout out for her hubby s4s.
Good deal bro!
No offense to your wife (she has a GREAT looking ass) but I would rather see you quit than see here ass. But please do keep that avatar, please.
Make a deal with me, you cave and I get some of that "special" treatment from her.
And again, I will say, I would rather you stay quit so make the deal with me and remember it any time you want a dip.
Oh, and tell your wife I am only 25 and I look NOTHING like Loot. So she should not be afraid of you making that promise.
I'm betting that's really s5s's ass. A real girly man.
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S4S, you have far outworn your welcome here. This is a place for quitters of nicotine. It is private only in the sense that we reserve access hereto for those of us serious about conquering our addiction to nicotine. While my wife well knows the countless hours I spend here weekly, this place is not for her. In fact, this place is not for 99+% of the people I know or interact with daily personally. While I personally know current slaves of smokeless tobacco, they would not know me here even if I invited them to join unless I myself told them my KTC screen name. Your argument in regard to privacy continues to remain invalid as I and many others here find it merely an excuse for your incessant need for attention and an excuse for your potential cave. I suggest you take your immature and illogical ranting to the likes of facebook, twitter or myspace.
As for you and/or your loved ones taking offense to matters expressed here in the form of random expressions of adult language or impersonal references of nudity, I find your argument inconsistent with your braggadocios persona. While I respect your spousesÂ’ lack of comfortableness on matters expressed here; again, this place was not meant for her. You have lost all respect from me in outing your wifeÂ’s good intentions toward your personal success then following that up by posting a scantily clad photo of her on the internet to total strangers. Your lack of chivalry and common decency has thwarted any respect you will ever have from me.
I do hope you find the freedom of nicotine addiction repressiveness you seek and apparently need. I just hope it is someplace other than here.
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S4S, you have far outworn your welcome here. This is a place for quitters of nicotine. It is private only in the sense that we reserve access hereto for those of us serious about conquering our addiction to nicotine. While my wife well knows the countless hours I spend here weekly, this place is not for her. In fact, this place is not for 99+% of the people I know or interact with daily personally. While I personally know current slaves of smokeless tobacco, they would not know me here even if I invited them to join unless I myself told them my KTC screen name. Your argument in regard to privacy continues to remain invalid as I and many others here find it merely an excuse for your incessant need for attention and an excuse for your potential cave. I suggest you take your immature and illogical ranting to the likes of facebook, twitter or myspace.
As for you and/or your loved ones taking offense to matters expressed here in the form of random expressions of adult language or impersonal references of nudity, I find your argument inconsistent with your braggadocios persona. While I respect your spousesÂ’ lack of comfortableness on matters expressed here; again, this place was not meant for her. You have lost all respect from me in outing your wifeÂ’s good intentions toward your personal success then following that up by posting a scantily clad photo of her on the internet to total strangers. Your lack of chivalry and common decency has thwarted any respect you will ever have from me.
I do hope you find the freedom of nicotine addiction repressiveness you seek and apparently need. I just hope it is someplace other than here.
Don't give a shit about what you have to say. My quit is real and if you got a problem with me move the fuck on I don't remember talking to you anyways. So who's the real attention whore?
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S4S, you have far outworn your welcome here. This is a place for quitters of nicotine. It is private only in the sense that we reserve access hereto for those of us serious about conquering our addiction to nicotine. While my wife well knows the countless hours I spend here weekly, this place is not for her. In fact, this place is not for 99+% of the people I know or interact with daily personally. While I personally know current slaves of smokeless tobacco, they would not know me here even if I invited them to join unless I myself told them my KTC screen name. Your argument in regard to privacy continues to remain invalid as I and many others here find it merely an excuse for your incessant need for attention and an excuse for your potential cave. I suggest you take your immature and illogical ranting to the likes of facebook, twitter or myspace.
As for you and/or your loved ones taking offense to matters expressed here in the form of random expressions of adult language or impersonal references of nudity, I find your argument inconsistent with your braggadocios persona. While I respect your spouses’ lack of comfortableness on matters expressed here; again, this place was not meant for her. You have lost all respect from me in outing your wife’s good intentions toward your personal success then following that up by posting a scantily clad photo of her on the internet to total strangers. Your lack of chivalry and common decency has thwarted any respect you will ever have from me.
I do hope you find the freedom of nicotine addiction repressiveness you seek and apparently need. I just hope it is someplace other than here.
Don't give a shit about what you have to say. My quit is real and if you got a problem with me move the fuck on I don't remember talking to you anyways. So who's the real attention whore?
You are classless and you will fail.
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No pictures gonna be posted. Sorry to get your hopes up but that's how life is sometimes.
That's okay still glad to quit with ya.
Just kidding Check out the avatar pic!!! What up. She is cheering all quitters on with the KTC and then a shout out for her hubby s4s.
Good deal bro!
No offense to your wife (she has a GREAT looking ass) but I would rather see you quit than see here ass. But please do keep that avatar, please.
Make a deal with me, you cave and I get some of that "special" treatment from her.
And again, I will say, I would rather you stay quit so make the deal with me and remember it any time you want a dip.
Oh, and tell your wife I am only 25 and I look NOTHING like Loot. So she should not be afraid of you making that promise.
I'm betting that's really s5s's ass. A real girly man.
You're probably right.... oh well.
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No pictures gonna be posted. Sorry to get your hopes up but that's how life is sometimes.
That's okay still glad to quit with ya.
Just kidding Check out the avatar pic!!! What up. She is cheering all quitters on with the KTC and then a shout out for her hubby s4s.
Good deal bro!
No offense to your wife (she has a GREAT looking ass) but I would rather see you quit than see here ass. But please do keep that avatar, please.
Make a deal with me, you cave and I get some of that "special" treatment from her.
And again, I will say, I would rather you stay quit so make the deal with me and remember it any time you want a dip.
Oh, and tell your wife I am only 25 and I look NOTHING like Loot. So she should not be afraid of you making that promise.
I'm betting that's really s5s's ass. A real girly man.
Dude, jealous much? Lol
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s4s, how's that quit? as long as you are quit, life's good...
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No pictures gonna be posted. Sorry to get your hopes up but that's how life is sometimes.
That's okay still glad to quit with ya.
Just kidding Check out the avatar pic!!! What up. She is cheering all quitters on with the KTC and then a shout out for her hubby s4s.
Good deal bro!
No offense to your wife (she has a GREAT looking ass) but I would rather see you quit than see here ass. But please do keep that avatar, please.
Make a deal with me, you cave and I get some of that "special" treatment from her.
And again, I will say, I would rather you stay quit so make the deal with me and remember it any time you want a dip.
Oh, and tell your wife I am only 25 and I look NOTHING like Loot. So she should not be afraid of you making that promise.
I'm betting that's really s5s's ass. A real girly man.
Dude, jealous much? Lol
A little bit, wish my ass looked that good in my thong. 'assman'
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s4s, how's that quit? as long as you are quit, life's good...
I'm all over this quit. Thanks for asking. How's yours?
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I know you won't let all of this drama detract from your quit, s4s. I want this to be THE quit for you. Come back tomorrow, sign roll, and let your +1 work its magic for the day. Fight the good fight!
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I know you won't let all of this drama detract from your quit, s4s. I want this to be THE quit for you. Come back tomorrow, sign roll, and let your +1 work its magic for the day. Fight the good fight!
Dude drama is drama, but this habit can kill me so I got this quit. You stay focused on your 1,001 day cause you never know.
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I know you won't let all of this drama detract from your quit, s4s. I want this to be THE quit for you. Come back tomorrow, sign roll, and let your +1 work its magic for the day. Fight the good fight!
Dude drama is drama, but this habit can kill me so I got this quit. You stay focused on your 1,001 day cause you never know.
Some people let drama interfere or use it as an out. I'm glad that's not you. As for me, I'm quit today, and I know where I will be tomorrow. Hint: Jan '09 roll call first thing. Ciao