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Title: New Dip Free Member
Post by: mney65 on June 15, 2013, 04:24:00 PM
Hello all. This site looks encouraging. I am 48 and have been dipping since I was 16. I usually get sick of it every couple of years, especially in the summer. Have tried quitting several times to no avail. My new wife of 3 years is extremely disappointed in my habit - I hope that will be the final motivation I need to quit for good. I have the gum, I am getting the fake snuff, I have the motivation, and now I have the support. Here we go!!!
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: Mjollnir on June 15, 2013, 04:34:00 PM
Quote from: mney65
Hello all. This site looks encouraging. I am 48 and have been dipping since I was 16. I usually get sick of it every couple of years, especially in the summer. Have tried quitting several times to no avail. My new wife of 3 years is extremely disappointed in my habit - I hope that will be the final motivation I need to quit for good. I have the gum, I am getting the fake snuff, I have the motivation, and now I have the support. Here we go!!!
Gum? You do mean just gum right? We do not use nicotine gum. Stick with us, and get through the beginning and you will do fine.
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: Steve Mc. on June 15, 2013, 05:19:00 PM
Quote from: Mjollnir
Quote from: mney65
Hello all.  This site looks encouraging.  I am 48 and have been dipping since I was 16.  I usually get sick of it every couple of years, especially in the summer.  Have tried quitting several times to no avail.  My new wife of 3 years is extremely disappointed in my habit - I hope that will be the final motivation I need to quit for good.  I have the gum, I am getting the fake snuff, I have the motivation, and now I have the support.  Here we go!!!
Gum? You do mean just gum right? We do not use nicotine gum. Stick with us, and get through the beginning and you will do fine.
Welcome, hope you are motivated to quit for yourself as well? Spousal support is great, but it won't keep me quit. My wife nagged me for years, as bad as I wanted to stop for her I couldn't until I was ready. And you stated you usually get sick of dipping every couple of years? I have to be sick of it every damn day and remember how bad it was stuffing my face every day.
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: Matt F on June 16, 2013, 09:09:00 AM
Hey Mney

You came to a good place to support nicotine freedom. Most of the guys will attest it feels great yet still have to take a daily search of soul and come up with another promise to quit again. I know I do. Post roll every day in Slutember 2013 Pre Hall of Fame. See you there man.
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: Wt57 on June 16, 2013, 09:28:00 AM
Quote from: mney65
Hello all. This site looks encouraging. I am 48 and have been dipping since I was 16. I usually get sick of it every couple of years, especially in the summer. Have tried quitting several times to no avail. My new wife of 3 years is extremely disappointed in my habit - I hope that will be the final motivation I need to quit for good. I have the gum, I am getting the fake snuff, I have the motivation, and now I have the support. Here we go!!!
It hurts to write this response. I don't read the total disgust it takes to stay quit. Also you mentioned "this habit" I hope that's just a figure of speech. What we are is addicts, there is a huge difference between addiction and habit. "wife of 3 years is extremely disappointed". My wife of 33 years was more than disappointed and it motivated me to become more secretive. Finally don't get hung up on quitting for good worry about today! All that being said welcome to hell.
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on June 16, 2013, 09:53:00 AM
Quote from: Wt57
Quote from: mney65
Hello all.  This site looks encouraging.  I am 48 and have been dipping since I was 16.  I usually get sick of it every couple of years, especially in the summer.  Have tried quitting several times to no avail.  My new wife of 3 years is extremely disappointed in my habit - I hope that will be the final motivation I need to quit for good.  I have the gum, I am getting the fake snuff, I have the motivation, and now I have the support.  Here we go!!!
It hurts to write this response. I don't read the total disgust it takes to stay quit. Also you mentioned "this habit" I hope that's just a figure of speech. What we are is addicts, there is a huge difference between addiction and habit. "wife of 3 years is extremely disappointed". My wife of 33 years was more than disappointed and it motivated me to become more secretive. Finally don't get hung up on quitting for good worry about today! All that being said welcome to hell.
There is no TRY, only QUIT. I think you can do anything you put your mind to. What do you think??
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: KickThisB1tch on June 16, 2013, 11:15:00 AM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: Wt57
Quote from: mney65
Hello all.  This site looks encouraging.  I am 48 and have been dipping since I was 16.  I usually get sick of it every couple of years, especially in the summer.  Have tried quitting several times to no avail.  My new wife of 3 years is extremely disappointed in my habit - I hope that will be the final motivation I need to quit for good.  I have the gum, I am getting the fake snuff, I have the motivation, and now I have the support.  Here we go!!!
It hurts to write this response. I don't read the total disgust it takes to stay quit. Also you mentioned "this habit" I hope that's just a figure of speech. What we are is addicts, there is a huge difference between addiction and habit. "wife of 3 years is extremely disappointed". My wife of 33 years was more than disappointed and it motivated me to become more secretive. Finally don't get hung up on quitting for good worry about today! All that being said welcome to hell.
There is no TRY, only QUIT. I think you can do anything you put your mind to. What do you think??
These guys said it right on man. We don't try on this site, we DO!..or should I say we DON'T...use nic! The fake snuff is awesome, and so is everything else, but as you know just as well as all of us here..that just isn't going to cut it. You need the support and help...so get on the site, post roll every day, and if you need help, don't be afraid to ask for it! I welcome you to the rest of your life! And I quit with you today brother!
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: mney65 on June 16, 2013, 06:45:00 PM
OUCH!! What a warm and fuzzy group - THANKS! Everything said is true. I am, however, disgusted with this addiction and I am quit. I'm tired of waking up and heading for my can even before I kiss my wife. I'm tired of having to stand away from people during conversations for fear of them smelling my breath. I'm tired of being afraid to smile or laugh because someone might see the disgusting wad of worm dirt in my lip. To sum it up, I'm tired of a weed controlling my life!

Being a former Marine, it's hard to admit to myself that I don't have the metal to just throw the can down and walk away without ever thinking about it again. That's probably why I chose soft words like "try" and "habit." Keep me honest guys. As to the gum, yes it was nicotine gum. I put that down the garbage disposal this morning. Let's do this thing!
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: 05wrxing on June 16, 2013, 06:50:00 PM
Quote from: mney65
OUCH!! What a warm and fuzzy group - THANKS! Everything said is true. I am, however, disgusted with this addiction and I am quit. I'm tired of waking up and heading for my can even before I kiss my wife. I'm tired of having to stand away from people during conversations for fear of them smelling my breath. I'm tired of being afraid to smile or laugh because someone might see the disgusting wad of worm dirt in my lip. To sum it up, I'm tired of a weed controlling my life!

Being a former Marine, it's hard to admit to myself that I don't have the metal to just throw the can down and walk away without ever thinking about it again. That's probably why I chose soft words like "try" and "habit." Keep me honest guys. As to the gum, yes it was nicotine gum. I put that down the garbage disposal this morning. Let's do this thing!
Glad to hear that you ditched the gum. Now just post roll everyday and honor that word. Reach out and get yourself some numbers and use them any time that you need. I will quit with you any day. If you need a number or anything at all just pm me.
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: LionHeartedGirl on June 16, 2013, 06:58:00 PM
Quote from: mney65
OUCH!! What a warm and fuzzy group - THANKS! Everything said is true. I am, however, disgusted with this addiction and I am quit. I'm tired of waking up and heading for my can even before I kiss my wife. I'm tired of having to stand away from people during conversations for fear of them smelling my breath. I'm tired of being afraid to smile or laugh because someone might see the disgusting wad of worm dirt in my lip. To sum it up, I'm tired of a weed controlling my life!

Being a former Marine, it's hard to admit to myself that I don't have the metal to just throw the can down and walk away without ever thinking about it again. That's probably why I chose soft words like "try" and "habit." Keep me honest guys. As to the gum, yes it was nicotine gum. I put that down the garbage disposal this morning. Let's do this thing!
You sound badass! Great job taking control!
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: Quit on June 16, 2013, 08:27:00 PM
Great that you posted roll! One problem was the comment you made after it. Look, the first few days suck, that is why we call them the suck. Take it one day, one hour, one minute, or one second at a time. Just stay quit! I just PM'ed you my number, use it if you need to.

Today I quit with you.
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on June 16, 2013, 08:33:00 PM
Quote from: LionHeartedGirl
Quote from: mney65
OUCH!! What a warm and fuzzy group - THANKS! Everything said is true. I am, however, disgusted with this addiction and I am quit.  I'm tired of waking up and heading for my can even before I kiss my wife.  I'm tired of having to stand away from people during conversations for fear of them smelling my breath.  I'm tired of being afraid to smile or laugh because someone might see the disgusting wad of worm dirt in my lip.  To sum it up, I'm tired of a weed controlling my life!

Being a former Marine, it's hard to admit to myself that I don't have the metal to just throw the can down and walk away without ever thinking about it again.  That's probably why I chose soft words like "try" and "habit."  Keep me honest guys.  As to the gum, yes it was nicotine gum.  I put that down the garbage disposal this morning.  Let's do this thing!
You sound badass! Great job taking control!
Welcome to quit mney65. Hold on tight, you gotta want this bad. 1st 2 weeks is a mutha $%@#$. I wouldnt wish it on my worst enemy. But after that it will get easier. YOU KNOW IT IS TIME, AND YOU KNOW IN YOUR HEART IT WILL BE WORTH IT.

Reach out, get some numbers. I think it is a must. Also get on chat if you havent already. Use this intro thread like a journal, keep track of how you feel and record your victories. You can rant and rave, ask questions or ask for advice. Whatever you need man. I quit with you.
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: mney65 on June 17, 2013, 12:22:00 PM
Day 3. Restless last night, grouchy this morning. There is a war going on inside me – to cave or not to cave. The only possible solution is to hit the gym and take it out on the iron. Gonna stay quit today.
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: LionHeartedGirl on June 17, 2013, 12:40:00 PM
Quote from: mney65
Day 3. Restless last night, grouchy this morning. There is a war going on inside me – to cave or not to cave. The only possible solution is to hit the gym and take it out on the iron. Gonna stay quit today.
I see you posted roll so for today the war is won. No nicotine for you today!

You've got this.
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: Evil_Won on June 17, 2013, 12:42:00 PM
Quote from: mney65
Day 3. Restless last night, grouchy this morning. There is a war going on inside me – to cave or not to cave. The only possible solution is to hit the gym and take it out on the iron. Gonna stay quit today.
Do whatever you need to do to remain quit today. Day 3...the poison is almost out of your system! Makes ZERO sense to start over now. Remeber how shitty days 1 and 2 were? Do you want to do them again? I say no, not today, I posted roll today so caving is not an option. Fight through this.
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: nebraskadad58 on June 17, 2013, 02:27:00 PM
Quote from: mney65
Day 3. Restless last night, grouchy this morning. There is a war going on inside me – to cave or not to cave. The only possible solution is to hit the gym and take it out on the iron. Gonna stay quit today.
Embrace the Suck, remember it well.

It is the reason I don't want it back. You have to ride the cravings through that 1st week until your body is free of nicotine.

I hope based on the thread you pitched the Nicorette as well. That only delay getting the monkey of our back.

It does SUCK, that is why they call it the SUCK.
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: mney65 on June 19, 2013, 01:01:00 AM
Yesterday was not good - I caved. The lie I told myself: I carry a gun and deal with the scum of scociety. If I don't maintain my self control, I might end up killing somebody. The truth: I didn't maintain my self control by caving. Lose-Lose. I only had the @#!^ in for a minute and spit it out because shame and disgust overwhelmed me. Doesn't matter, caving is caving. My resolve has been strengthened though. I AM QUIT!!!
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: Steve Mc. on June 19, 2013, 02:42:00 AM
Quote from: mney65
Yesterday was not good - I caved.  The lie I told myself: I carry a gun and deal with the scum of scociety.  If I don't maintain my self control, I might end up killing somebody.  The truth: I didn't maintain my self control by caving.  Lose-Lose.  I only had the @#!^ in for a minute and spit it out because shame and disgust overwhelmed me.  Doesn't matter, caving is caving.  My resolve has been strengthened though.  I AM QUIT!!!
Yea, I had shitty day yesterday as well. Life gives me those kind of days sometimes, where I just want to punch the shit out of someone. But you know what? I didn't cave because of it. Actually I pm'd a vet that I have never communicated with before, but had been observing their quit on here and respect the hell out of them. And 20 minutes later we were texting back and forth, and now I have another contact to rely on. This is how this shit works. If I fall back on self reliance when shit hits the fan I will fail every time, especially early in the quit. I can't quit on my own. How bad do you want this? Quitting ODAAT is simple, but it's not easy. If this shit was easy I wouldn't need this site and the bad ass quitters that are apart of it. I have posted roll for 180 days consecutively, and it is no coincidence that I am six months quit today. So make a decision and stick to it, ODAAT. You want help? Man up and ask for it. I will gladly give you my number through a PM request.
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: Wt57 on June 19, 2013, 08:53:00 AM
Quote from: Steve
Quote from: mney65
Yesterday was not good - I caved.  The lie I told myself: I carry a gun and deal with the scum of scociety.  If I don't maintain my self control, I might end up killing somebody.  The truth: I didn't maintain my self control by caving.  Lose-Lose.  I only had the @#!^ in for a minute and spit it out because shame and disgust overwhelmed me.  Doesn't matter, caving is caving.  My resolve has been strengthened though.  I AM QUIT!!!
Yea, I had shitty day yesterday as well. Life gives me those kind of days sometimes, where I just want to punch the shit out of someone. But you know what? I didn't cave because of it. Actually I pm'd a vet that I have never communicated with before, but had been observing their quit on here and respect the hell out of them. And 20 minutes later we were texting back and forth, and now I have another contact to rely on. This is how this shit works. If I fall back on self reliance when shit hits the fan I will fail every time, especially early in the quit. I can't quit on my own. How bad do you want this? Quitting ODAAT is simple, but it's not easy. If this shit was easy I wouldn't need this site and the bad ass quitters that are apart of it. I have posted roll for 180 days consecutively, and it is no coincidence that I am six months quit today. So make a decision and stick to it, ODAAT. You want help? Man up and ask for it. I will gladly give you my number through a PM request.
What happened?
Why did it happen?
What are you going to do different?

The last question is most important for you right now. I also had a really shitty day yesterday but dip didn't even cross my mind. Learning Self control for me also kept me from killing someone, myself. I hate UST and what they do. I hate what I allowed that shit to do to me for 40+ years. No more, why? I quit one day at a time and maintain that quit by honoring my promise. May the shame you have from caving Renew your resolve. Lets see what your made of, I'm sure that you are better than the scum you deal with daily.
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: srans on June 19, 2013, 09:32:00 AM
Quote from: Wt57
Quote from: Steve
Quote from: mney65
Yesterday was not good - I caved.  The lie I told myself: I carry a gun and deal with the scum of scociety.  If I don't maintain my self control, I might end up killing somebody.  The truth: I didn't maintain my self control by caving.  Lose-Lose.  I only had the @#!^ in for a minute and spit it out because shame and disgust overwhelmed me.  Doesn't matter, caving is caving.  My resolve has been strengthened though.  I AM QUIT!!!
Yea, I had shitty day yesterday as well. Life gives me those kind of days sometimes, where I just want to punch the shit out of someone. But you know what? I didn't cave because of it. Actually I pm'd a vet that I have never communicated with before, but had been observing their quit on here and respect the hell out of them. And 20 minutes later we were texting back and forth, and now I have another contact to rely on. This is how this shit works. If I fall back on self reliance when shit hits the fan I will fail every time, especially early in the quit. I can't quit on my own. How bad do you want this? Quitting ODAAT is simple, but it's not easy. If this shit was easy I wouldn't need this site and the bad ass quitters that are apart of it. I have posted roll for 180 days consecutively, and it is no coincidence that I am six months quit today. So make a decision and stick to it, ODAAT. You want help? Man up and ask for it. I will gladly give you my number through a PM request.
What happened?
Why did it happen?
What are you going to do different?

The last question is most important for you right now. I also had a really shitty day yesterday but dip didn't even cross my mind. Learning Self control for me also kept me from killing someone, myself. I hate UST and what they do. I hate what I allowed that shit to do to me for 40+ years. No more, why? I quit one day at a time and maintain that quit by honoring my promise. May the shame you have from caving Renew your resolve. Lets see what your made of, I'm sure that you are better than the scum you deal with daily.
I like the words of wisdom you put on your own post. " The lie I told myself ". That says it all my friend. As time passes you will uncover all the lies, but in order to see all the lies you have to make it through today.

I also carry a gun while dealing with the scum of the earth. It sounds like you might be in somewhat, the same line of work.

Me and you have used enough excuses in our lives. The one thing you will see and learn here is that the poison does not help with anything. It doesn't help you deal with scums, driving, shooting, running, thinking and being a father, husband. You name it brother. All the poison helps with is to feel the void you have created. The void of needing something that does absolutely nothing for you.

After time you will actually be amazed at how much better you handle stress, dealing with scums, driving, thinking and being a father husband. I can't believe the difference quitting has made in my life.

When you caved you were saying yes to slavery once again. NO MORE BROTHER!! Answer the three questions honestly and it will help you with your quit. When you get time read my hof speech in my signature line, I believe it will help you. Need anything pm me brother. I quit with you.
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: mney65 on June 20, 2013, 12:04:00 PM
New day, new victories, new struggles, NO FAILURES! Hooch chew came in yesterday. Definitely not the same, but it feels like my quit will be a little easier now.
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: Mthomas3824 on June 20, 2013, 12:18:00 PM
Quote from: mney65
New day, new victories, new struggles, NO FAILURES!  Hooch chew came in yesterday.  Definitely not the same, but it feels like my quit will be a little easier now.
We all want the easy road to freedom. Hooch or no hooch, I hope it isn't easy but you want this and will go through any agony and pain to win back your freedom!

I just think slaves to nicotine must realize that to become free you must be resolute, angry and feel the pain. I am so glad my journey was hard because I never want to repeat that awful recovery again.

Now that I am over a year quit, I look back on the difficulty of quitting and know I did it. I am free from my vice but I will never choose bondage to nicotine over the freedom I have.

Just one dip for me now? HELL NO! I worked and suffered too damn much to even consider dancing with addiction again. I hate nicotine, she disgusts me and even when I have a crave "always an addict" I value and protect my freedom!

Suffer and don't hope for the easy road. (There isn't one) Just be determined to take in everything that sucks about this addiction so you wake up and quit today...every today and knock that pathetic nic bitch out.

'rem'
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: erikinsocal on June 20, 2013, 12:41:00 PM
It's day 1 for me. It seems like I've been here 100 times before. I'm pretty good at kicking but where I suck is staying quit. Almost as soon as I kick the can I start craving cigarettes, cigars, anything else with nicotine in it. Then I cave to the crave and eventually end up back on the tin. Just had my last chew this morning and it hasn't hit me yet, but I know it will.
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: billybill3934 on June 20, 2013, 01:05:00 PM
Quote from: mney65
Yesterday was not good - I caved. The lie I told myself: I carry a gun and deal with the scum of scociety. If I don't maintain my self control, I might end up killing somebody. The truth: I didn't maintain my self control by caving. Lose-Lose. I only had the @#!^ in for a minute and spit it out because shame and disgust overwhelmed me. Doesn't matter, caving is caving. My resolve has been strengthened though. I AM QUIT!!!
I am trying to stay calm and will await the response before I really tear into your ass!!!! I totally fucked up in my first(trial) quit of 6 months. I caved like a bitch and all that. I know how things go and shit happens but I didn't act like nothing fucking happened. I took my licks on here and with all of the other people I was accountable to and started over from the damn beginning.

I really hope you don't understand the rules or something because if you think for a fucking second that you can cave 2 days in and just go about your business dismissing the fact that you gave into the devil nic bitch and post day 5 today like we're all cool and shit. You need to remove that day 5 and your name from our roll post immediately!!!! You will explain on the roll page What happened? Why did it happen? What are you going to do different? and it better be more than my work is stressful and boohoo shit. We are all stressed out, tired, over worked, and all that. I don't hate on you for caving, I am pissed because you thought it was ok to keep posting like nothing ever happened.

You are at DAY 2 if you have been quit all day today!!! If you get offended by this, oh well, I am offended by your lack of respect for the rules of this program. You better have some thick skin MARINE! I will be behind you 100% if you fix all of this and really get on board!

YOU BEING A MARINE, I WOULD EXPECT A LOT MORE INTEGRITY AND HONOR FROM YOU!!!!!
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: Matt F on June 20, 2013, 01:09:00 PM
Quote from: erikinsocal
It's day 1 for me.  It seems like I've been here 100 times before.  I'm pretty good at kicking but where I suck is staying quit.  Almost as soon as I kick the can I start craving cigarettes, cigars, anything else with nicotine in it.  Then I cave to the crave and eventually end up back on the tin.  Just had my last chew this morning and it hasn't hit me yet, but I know it will.
Erik, welcome to KTC. You should create a new intro of your own using the new topic button at the right upper part of the screen. Make a lot of contacts on this site and stay accountable. Read the welcome thread follow the rules and stay quit!
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: Mthomas3824 on June 20, 2013, 01:11:00 PM
Quote from: erikinsocal
It's day 1 for me.  It seems like I've been here 100 times before.  I'm pretty good at kicking but where I suck is staying quit.  Almost as soon as I kick the can I start craving cigarettes, cigars, anything else with nicotine in it.  Then I cave to the crave and eventually end up back on the tin.  Just had my last chew this morning and it hasn't hit me yet, but I know it will.
Holy shit balls! You are already in trouble. You better start reading and take the blinders off!!!!!

This nicotine is so evil because she is subtle and will seduce you if you aren't on your guard all day today.

Who do you give your word to today? You have proven that keeping your word to yourself isn't enough to keep you quit. (Why we are all here)

Who is your support? Who is on the roll that you can't and will not let down? You are in trouble and you don't even see it!!!!!

Here is one tip on nicotine. She is a parasite. A terrorist parasite. She latches on to a host and sucks life, energy and FREEDOM. She takes over your life and you do everything for the parasite and what did you get back? A buzz...maybe? You are duped into thinking and linking her into someone to cope with during the hard times, enjoy the good times. News flash, she is a killer!!!!!!!

3 million people a year die due to complications of nicotine. Lung cancer, throat, Stomach, mouth lip...etc. You know that active "out and proud" terrorists get so much attention. WTC bombings. Under 10 thousand innocent lives were murdered. Then we react and go to war and sacrifice more men to bring those terrorist to justice.

Nicotine, and UST (The quiet stay low and try not to get noticed) have the blood of 3 million a year on their hands. That is like destroying a city the size of HOUSTON, TX! She is your captor and you are her slave. Most of us became addicts when we were in our teens. Very few numbers take up chewing tobacco when its legal to do so.....HMMMM Time to grow up and become a man. Tobacco humpers are duped and stupid.

Fuck nicotine, Fuck US Tobacco and Fuck any Glamour you or any other quitter has towards this bitch! She will seduce you and laugh while she kills you!

You are in a battle and wars are fought to be won. If you are at war with nictotine, get your game face on. Cravings will come, call for support and to discuss it but always remind yourself that this evil bitch owns you and you CAN'T and Wont bow down to her again.

Cravings are one thing...we are addicts. Entertaining, Glamorized or Remembering her with fondness is her subtle way to seduce you back to being a can humper!

Get reading and see the Truth. This is a dirty, vile, evil killer and nothing, not one damn thing about tobacco improved your life.
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: billybill3934 on June 20, 2013, 01:26:00 PM
Quote from: erikinsocal
It's day 1 for me.  It seems like I've been here 100 times before.  I'm pretty good at kicking but where I suck is staying quit.  Almost as soon as I kick the can I start craving cigarettes, cigars, anything else with nicotine in it.  Then I cave to the crave and eventually end up back on the tin.  Just had my last chew this morning and it hasn't hit me yet, but I know it will.
Eric, I hope you don't see the message I wrote to Mney65 and get discouraged or scared of this site. We are all on here for the same reason and that is to quit using nicotine one day at a time witht the support and accountability from our Quit Brothers. You need to be tough and thick skinned because we will all get on you when you need it and praise you when you are trucking a long. I am going to PM you some words in a minute. I also need you to send me back your phone number (in a Personal Message) so we can get you on the phone listing of accountability!!
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: Evil_Won on June 20, 2013, 01:56:00 PM
Mney65,

On 6/18 you posted in YOUR INTRO (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=8391) that you caved on the 17th. My math skills aren't the best, but I think that you should be posting a day 3 today, not five.

It doesn't work that way - you cave - you start over.

You need to answer the three questions from your heart. That is the price of readmission. Answering honestly is not only for you, but a teaching tool for the rest of us. Answer with honesty and integrity, not just what we want to hear.

So..
1) What happened?
2) Why did it happen?
3) What are you going to do different?
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: billybill3934 on June 20, 2013, 02:10:00 PM
Quote from: billybill3934
Quote from: mney65
Yesterday was not good - I caved.  The lie I told myself: I carry a gun and deal with the scum of scociety.  If I don't maintain my self control, I might end up killing somebody.  The truth: I didn't maintain my self control by caving.  Lose-Lose.  I only had the @#!^ in for a minute and spit it out because shame and disgust overwhelmed me.  Doesn't matter, caving is caving.  My resolve has been strengthened though.  I AM QUIT!!!
I am trying to stay calm and will await the response before I really tear into your ass!!!! I totally fucked up in my first(trial) quit of 6 months. I caved like a bitch and all that. I know how things go and shit happens but I didn't act like nothing fucking happened. I took my licks on here and with all of the other people I was accountable to and started over from the damn beginning.

I really hope you don't understand the rules or something because if you think for a fucking second that you can cave 2 days in and just go about your business dismissing the fact that you gave into the devil nic bitch and post day 5 today like we're all cool and shit. You need to remove that day 5 and your name from our roll post immediately!!!! You will explain on the roll page What happened? Why did it happen? What are you going to do different? and it better be more than my work is stressful and boohoo shit. We are all stressed out, tired, over worked, and all that. I don't hate on you for caving, I am pissed because you thought it was ok to keep posting like nothing ever happened.

You are at DAY 2 if you have been quit all day today!!! If you get offended by this, oh well, I am offended by your lack of respect for the rules of this program. You better have some thick skin MARINE! I will be behind you 100% if you fix all of this and really get on board!

YOU BEING A MARINE, I WOULD EXPECT A LOT MORE INTEGRITY AND HONOR FROM YOU!!!!!
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Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: JRizzle on June 20, 2013, 02:51:00 PM
Quote from: mney65
New day, new victories, new struggles, NO FAILURES! Hooch chew came in yesterday. Definitely not the same, but it feels like my quit will be a little easier now.
MN,

I've been following your posts and have a couple of issues:

1) You joined 5 days ago, caved 3 days ago, (presumably) re-booted your quit two days ago, but never answered the 3 questions either here or in the Sep Group Page

2) You are posting roll as 5 days quit, but you should be posting roll as 3 days quit. Posting roll isn't how long you've been on the site, it's how long you've been nicotine-free


I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming your didn't realize this. But it's a big, big deal. This is a nic-free site. We extend grace in the sense that we'll let you re-join the group, but you have to own up to the mistake you made and not just gloss over it. We have a zero tolerance policy regarding nicotine; would you want a quit site to be any other way?

Billybill3934 caved but owned up to it. There is life and freedom at this website. He'd be the 1st to tell you. But you need to 'fess up, answer the questions, correct your roll post, and get serious with this quit. If so, I'm all for ya brother and would love to have you in our group. I would love to be quit with you and get to know you, experience the struggles and success of life and quit with you. But you have to own up first.
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: mney65 on June 21, 2013, 06:38:00 PM
It's nice to be able to berate people for breaking rules that aren't posted anywhere. Try explaining how things work before you jump on someone. Also, my quit is my quit. I really don't give a crap what number you want me to use for how many days quit I am. Seems a little trivial and petty to focus on a number instead of the person connected to it.

BillyBill. You better watch yourself. Unless you've been in the Corps, you have no right to say anything about honor and integrity. You think quitting chew is hard? Try making it through boot camp or sifting through the remains of 241 US servicemen in a bombed out barracks in Beruit.

The negativity on this site is definitely not working. I get plenty of this kind of "encouragement" from my wife. I've been posting a journal and giving the process a chance, but all I'm getting is criticism about my word choices and slams for my honesty. What about a "good job on today" once in awhile?

I am dedicated. I am serious. I am quit. If I keep getting the abuse from all of you 'better than thou' know-it-all bitches, then I will do this myself. 'Finger'
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: Diesel2112 on June 21, 2013, 07:08:00 PM
Quote from: mney65
It's nice to be able to berate people for breaking rules that aren't posted anywhere. Try explaining how things work before you jump on someone. Also, my quit is my quit. I really don't give a crap what number you want me to use for how many days quit I am. Seems a little trivial and petty to focus on a number instead of the person connected to it.

BillyBill. You better watch yourself. Unless you've been in the Corps, you have no right to say anything about honor and integrity. You think quitting chew is hard? Try making it through boot camp or sifting through the remains of 241 US servicemen in a bombed out barracks in Beruit.

The negativity on this site is definitely not working. I get plenty of this kind of "encouragement" from my wife. I've been posting a journal and giving the process a chance, but all I'm getting is criticism about my word choices and slams for my honesty. What about a "good job on today" once in awhile?

I am dedicated. I am serious. I am quit. If I keep getting the abuse from all of you 'better than thou' know-it-all bitches, then I will do this myself. 'Finger'
I believe their are quite a few marines on here. They usually don't go too easy on "their own" but I will leave that to them.

Good job not caving today. I'm really proud of you, Sally.

Read the welcome center and other things to learn how the site works.

Didn't think you needed an explanation that caving after a few days is ok.

We all want to see you quit and sometimes we use tough love to show it. Don't be so sensative.

My honest opinion is your a blow hard. Full of tough talk but deep down no balls to quit. You're using people being "mean" to you as an excuse to leave.

You might have been a kick ass marine and I appreciate your service, bur you suck at quitting.

Man up or walk out and fail at going "lone wolf" like a little bitch.

Up to you.
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: srans on June 21, 2013, 07:56:00 PM
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: mney65
It's nice to be able to berate people for breaking rules that aren't posted anywhere.  Try explaining how things work before you jump on someone.  Also, my quit is my quit.  I really don't give a crap what number you want me to use for how many days quit I am.  Seems a little trivial and petty to focus on a number instead of the person connected to it. 

BillyBill. You better watch yourself.  Unless you've been in the Corps, you have no right to say anything about honor and integrity.  You think quitting chew is hard? Try making it through boot camp or sifting through the remains of 241 US servicemen in a bombed out barracks in Beruit.

The negativity on this site is definitely not working.  I get plenty of this kind of "encouragement" from my wife.  I've been posting a journal and giving the process a chance, but all I'm getting is criticism about my word choices and slams for my honesty.  What about a "good job on today" once in awhile? 

I am dedicated.  I am serious. I am quit.  If I keep getting the abuse from all of you 'better than thou' know-it-all bitches, then I will do this myself.  'Finger'
I believe their are quite a few marines on here. They usually don't go too easy on "their own" but I will leave that to them.

Good job not caving today. I'm really proud of you, Sally.

Read the welcome center and other things to learn how the site works.

Didn't think you needed an explanation that caving after a few days is ok.

We all want to see you quit and sometimes we use tough love to show it. Don't be so sensative.

My honest opinion is your a blow hard. Full of tough talk but deep down no balls to quit. You're using people being "mean" to you as an excuse to leave.

You might have been a kick ass marine and I appreciate your service, bur you suck at quitting.

Man up or walk out and fail at going "lone wolf" like a little bitch.

Up to you.
Quitting one of the most addictive drugs known to man is no joke. I'm sensing a little hostility right about now. That's what I expect from someone that's quitting and on day whatever,, don't really matter, huh?? It's getting real now, isn't it?

We aren't your wife my friend. We are going to be real with you. We expect you to post roll and keep your word. We take the quit very seriously, to important not to. If you want this quit to work you might want to do the same.

By the way good job today..
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: Evil_Won on June 21, 2013, 08:43:00 PM
Quote from: srans
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: mney65
It's nice to be able to berate people for breaking rules that aren't posted anywhere.  Try explaining how things work before you jump on someone.  Also, my quit is my quit.  I really don't give a crap what number you want me to use for how many days quit I am.  Seems a little trivial and petty to focus on a number instead of the person connected to it. 

BillyBill. You better watch yourself.  Unless you've been in the Corps, you have no right to say anything about honor and integrity.  You think quitting chew is hard? Try making it through boot camp or sifting through the remains of 241 US servicemen in a bombed out barracks in Beruit.

The negativity on this site is definitely not working.  I get plenty of this kind of "encouragement" from my wife.  I've been posting a journal and giving the process a chance, but all I'm getting is criticism about my word choices and slams for my honesty.  What about a "good job on today" once in awhile? 

I am dedicated.  I am serious. I am quit.  If I keep getting the abuse from all of you 'better than thou' know-it-all bitches, then I will do this myself.   'Finger'
I believe their are quite a few marines on here. They usually don't go too easy on "their own" but I will leave that to them.

Good job not caving today. I'm really proud of you, Sally.

Read the welcome center and other things to learn how the site works.

Didn't think you needed an explanation that caving after a few days is ok.

We all want to see you quit and sometimes we use tough love to show it. Don't be so sensative.

My honest opinion is your a blow hard. Full of tough talk but deep down no balls to quit. You're using people being "mean" to you as an excuse to leave.

You might have been a kick ass marine and I appreciate your service, bur you suck at quitting.

Man up or walk out and fail at going "lone wolf" like a little bitch.

Up to you.
Quitting one of the most addictive drugs known to man is no joke. I'm sensing a little hostility right about now. That's what I expect from someone that's quitting and on day whatever,, don't really matter, huh?? It's getting real now, isn't it?

We aren't your wife my friend. We are going to be real with you. We expect you to post roll and keep your word. We take the quit very seriously, to important not to. If you want this quit to work you might want to do the same.

By the way good job today..
Look Potsy, we don't coddle balls here. We quit. Quitters, what we have here is a special :scowick: .
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: Instigator on June 21, 2013, 08:51:00 PM
Quote from: mney65
It's nice to be able to berate people for breaking rules that aren't posted anywhere. Try explaining how things work before you jump on someone. Also, my quit is my quit. I really don't give a crap what number you want me to use for how many days quit I am. Seems a little trivial and petty to focus on a number instead of the person connected to it.

BillyBill. You better watch yourself. Unless you've been in the Corps, you have no right to say anything about honor and integrity. You think quitting chew is hard? Try making it through boot camp or sifting through the remains of 241 US servicemen in a bombed out barracks in Beruit.

The negativity on this site is definitely not working. I get plenty of this kind of "encouragement" from my wife. I've been posting a journal and giving the process a chance, but all I'm getting is criticism about my word choices and slams for my honesty. What about a "good job on today" once in awhile?

I am dedicated. I am serious. I am quit. If I keep getting the abuse from all of you 'better than thou' know-it-all bitches, then I will do this myself. 'Finger'
I love and respect all the service people, including Marines. However, what hardware in your head makes you think Marines have a patent on honor or integrity? The job doesn't make the person...the character of the person makes the job.

That said, this little tantrum of yours is mild compared to many I've seen. You don't want what we offer? Leave. Don't expect however that we will change our ways for you.

Now zip it and quit. And be accountable. Answer the questions about your cave and move on.
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: LionHeartedGirl on June 21, 2013, 09:08:00 PM
index.php?showtopic=8372 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=8372)
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: SirDerek on June 21, 2013, 09:58:00 PM
ok sorry but something not making sense

(1) Straight out in the welcome center are the rules that are used for within the quit group where you post roll and honor that word for 1 day (see in the link index.php?showtopic=120) (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=120%29)

(2)numbers is the simple addition. Day 1 is the time that you last had your body intake any nicotene. And you count from that date. As you have caved, that number resets back to the day 1. That is just continuous math.

(3) and here is where you need to understand, but its not negativity that you are reading. It is the trying to look you in the eye, shake your shoulders and talk through the nic bitch to get to the real you so you understand that this is a life and death decision that you need to make and stick to it (and being a marine I am sure that you can understand the seriousness with this). We are trying to get you to look inside yourself, to really understand the why you want to quit and the why you caved. This is all for your education so you do not repeat the past.

Now I think you have the tools you need, we are throwing them right at you. Time to open your eyes and mind, accept all of this and get back on the path to making yourself a clean and much better person as it will be so worth it.

your choice
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: jake frawley on June 21, 2013, 10:04:00 PM
Quote from: Instigator
Quote from: mney65
It's nice to be able to berate people for breaking rules that aren't posted anywhere.  Try explaining how things work before you jump on someone.  Also, my quit is my quit.  I really don't give a crap what number you want me to use for how many days quit I am.  Seems a little trivial and petty to focus on a number instead of the person connected to it. 

BillyBill. You better watch yourself.  Unless you've been in the Corps, you have no right to say anything about honor and integrity.  You think quitting chew is hard? Try making it through boot camp or sifting through the remains of 241 US servicemen in a bombed out barracks in Beruit.

The negativity on this site is definitely not working.  I get plenty of this kind of "encouragement" from my wife.  I've been posting a journal and giving the process a chance, but all I'm getting is criticism about my word choices and slams for my honesty.  What about a "good job on today" once in awhile? 

I am dedicated.  I am serious. I am quit.  If I keep getting the abuse from all of you 'better than thou' know-it-all bitches, then I will do this myself.  'Finger'
I love and respect all the service people, including Marines. However, what hardware in your head makes you think Marines have a patent on honor or integrity? The job doesn't make the person...the character of the person makes the job.

That said, this little tantrum of yours is mild compared to many I've seen. You don't want what we offer? Leave. Don't expect however that we will change our ways for you.

Now zip it and quit. And be accountable. Answer the questions about your cave and move on.
I'm so fucking irritated by this post that I don't think I can even say anything that will be remotely helpful! 'Finger' That's what I think about your attitude to your cave and your attitude to owning honor and integrity! I love what marines stand for! It is tattooed On my chest and arm! And I will tell you, Marines are not the only ones who live with those morals! But I question whether you do! Don't like hearing that? Man the fuck up Marine! Your whining about people being mean to you? really? Own your quit and have a backbone! Post an honest day so you can move forward with honor and integrity.
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: Diesel2112 on June 21, 2013, 10:39:00 PM
Quote from: jake
Quote from: Instigator
Quote from: mney65
It's nice to be able to berate people for breaking rules that aren't posted anywhere.  Try explaining how things work before you jump on someone.  Also, my quit is my quit.  I really don't give a crap what number you want me to use for how many days quit I am.  Seems a little trivial and petty to focus on a number instead of the person connected to it. 

BillyBill. You better watch yourself.  Unless you've been in the Corps, you have no right to say anything about honor and integrity.  You think quitting chew is hard? Try making it through boot camp or sifting through the remains of 241 US servicemen in a bombed out barracks in Beruit.

The negativity on this site is definitely not working.  I get plenty of this kind of "encouragement" from my wife.  I've been posting a journal and giving the process a chance, but all I'm getting is criticism about my word choices and slams for my honesty.  What about a "good job on today" once in awhile? 

I am dedicated.  I am serious. I am quit.  If I keep getting the abuse from all of you 'better than thou' know-it-all bitches, then I will do this myself.   'Finger'
I love and respect all the service people, including Marines. However, what hardware in your head makes you think Marines have a patent on honor or integrity? The job doesn't make the person...the character of the person makes the job.

That said, this little tantrum of yours is mild compared to many I've seen. You don't want what we offer? Leave. Don't expect however that we will change our ways for you.

Now zip it and quit. And be accountable. Answer the questions about your cave and move on.
I'm so fucking irritated by this post that I don't think I can even say anything that will be remotely helpful! 'Finger' That's what I think about your attitude to your cave and your attitude to owning honor and integrity! I love what marines stand for! It is tattooed On my chest and arm! And I will tell you, Marines are not the only ones who live with those morals! But I question whether you do! Don't like hearing that? Man the fuck up Marine! Your whining about people being mean to you? really? Own your quit and have a backbone! Post an honest day so you can move forward with honor and integrity.
Jake is a baaad man. I'm actually kind of afraid of him. :(
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: Instigator on June 21, 2013, 11:02:00 PM
Quote from: jake
Quote from: Instigator
Quote from: mney65
It's nice to be able to berate people for breaking rules that aren't posted anywhere.  Try explaining how things work before you jump on someone.  Also, my quit is my quit.  I really don't give a crap what number you want me to use for how many days quit I am.  Seems a little trivial and petty to focus on a number instead of the person connected to it. 

BillyBill. You better watch yourself.  Unless you've been in the Corps, you have no right to say anything about honor and integrity.  You think quitting chew is hard? Try making it through boot camp or sifting through the remains of 241 US servicemen in a bombed out barracks in Beruit.

The negativity on this site is definitely not working.  I get plenty of this kind of "encouragement" from my wife.  I've been posting a journal and giving the process a chance, but all I'm getting is criticism about my word choices and slams for my honesty.  What about a "good job on today" once in awhile? 

I am dedicated.  I am serious. I am quit.  If I keep getting the abuse from all of you 'better than thou' know-it-all bitches, then I will do this myself.   'Finger'
I love and respect all the service people, including Marines. However, what hardware in your head makes you think Marines have a patent on honor or integrity? The job doesn't make the person...the character of the person makes the job.

That said, this little tantrum of yours is mild compared to many I've seen. You don't want what we offer? Leave. Don't expect however that we will change our ways for you.

Now zip it and quit. And be accountable. Answer the questions about your cave and move on.
I'm so fucking irritated by this post that I don't think I can even say anything that will be remotely helpful! 'Finger' That's what I think about your attitude to your cave and your attitude to owning honor and integrity! I love what marines stand for! It is tattooed On my chest and arm! And I will tell you, Marines are not the only ones who live with those morals! But I question whether you do! Don't like hearing that? Man the fuck up Marine! Your whining about people being mean to you? really? Own your quit and have a backbone! Post an honest day so you can move forward with honor and integrity.
If there was a little emoticon thingamajig that clapped, I'd put it here.

Oh, wait...here it is...

'boob'


Nope. That wasn't it.
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: ERDVM on June 21, 2013, 11:10:00 PM
Quote from: Instigator
Quote from: jake
Quote from: Instigator
Quote from: mney65
It's nice to be able to berate people for breaking rules that aren't posted anywhere.  Try explaining how things work before you jump on someone.  Also, my quit is my quit.  I really don't give a crap what number you want me to use for how many days quit I am.  Seems a little trivial and petty to focus on a number instead of the person connected to it. 

BillyBill. You better watch yourself.  Unless you've been in the Corps, you have no right to say anything about honor and integrity.  You think quitting chew is hard? Try making it through boot camp or sifting through the remains of 241 US servicemen in a bombed out barracks in Beruit.

The negativity on this site is definitely not working.  I get plenty of this kind of "encouragement" from my wife.  I've been posting a journal and giving the process a chance, but all I'm getting is criticism about my word choices and slams for my honesty.  What about a "good job on today" once in awhile? 

I am dedicated.  I am serious. I am quit.  If I keep getting the abuse from all of you 'better than thou' know-it-all bitches, then I will do this myself.   'Finger'
I love and respect all the service people, including Marines. However, what hardware in your head makes you think Marines have a patent on honor or integrity? The job doesn't make the person...the character of the person makes the job.

That said, this little tantrum of yours is mild compared to many I've seen. You don't want what we offer? Leave. Don't expect however that we will change our ways for you.

Now zip it and quit. And be accountable. Answer the questions about your cave and move on.
I'm so fucking irritated by this post that I don't think I can even say anything that will be remotely helpful! 'Finger' That's what I think about your attitude to your cave and your attitude to owning honor and integrity! I love what marines stand for! It is tattooed On my chest and arm! And I will tell you, Marines are not the only ones who live with those morals! But I question whether you do! Don't like hearing that? Man the fuck up Marine! Your whining about people being mean to you? really? Own your quit and have a backbone! Post an honest day so you can move forward with honor and integrity.
If there was a little emoticon thingamajig that clapped, I'd put it here.

Oh, wait...here it is...

'boob'


Nope. That wasn't it.
Wait? Gheytor? Is that you......? :huh:
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: jake frawley on June 23, 2013, 06:17:00 PM
Where you at bro? Your last statement on this thread was that you were gonna leave because of all the abuse. You haven't posted in 2 days, but I just saw you on the site reading this thread. How is it going? Did you decide to leave? If so I am guessing that it's not working to well. Or else you wouldn't be back here checking your thread. Yes we will still pay attention! Feel free to come back and post roll. Not gonna coddle you but I do want to put it out there that words are only words, If they drive you away then you are not ready anyway, but if you choose to come back you are welcome to come back and post. You were on this site but you are not posting role! That tells me that you wanna be here! Don't let pride stop you! Post an honest day!
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: srans on June 23, 2013, 07:27:00 PM
Quote from: jake
Where you at bro? Your last statement on this thread was that you were gonna leave because of all the abuse. You haven't posted in 2 days, but I just saw you on the site reading this thread. How is it going? Did you decide to leave? If so I am guessing that it's not working to well. Or else you wouldn't be back here checking your thread. Yes we will still pay attention! Feel free to come back and post roll. Not gonna coddle you but I do want to put it out there that words are only words, If they drive you away then you are not ready anyway, but if you choose to come back you are welcome to come back and post. You were on this site but you are not posting role! That tells me that you wanna be here! Don't let pride stop you! Post an honest day!
Jake speaks from the heart as i do. Your quit is important to us. Post roll and let's Get back to quitting.
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: Instigator on June 23, 2013, 07:33:00 PM
Quote from: srans
Quote from: jake
Where you at bro?  Your last statement on this thread was that you were gonna leave because of all the abuse.  You haven't posted in 2 days, but I just saw you on the site reading this thread.  How is it going?  Did you decide to leave?  If so I am guessing that it's not working to well.  Or else you wouldn't be back here checking your thread.  Yes we will still pay attention!  Feel free to come back and post roll.  Not gonna coddle you but I do want to put it out there that words are only words, If they drive you away then you are not ready anyway, but if you choose to come back you are welcome to come back and post. You were on this site but you are not posting role!  That tells me that you wanna be here!  Don't let pride stop you!  Post an honest day!
Jake speaks from the heart as i do. Your quit is important to us. Post roll and let's Get back to quitting.
You said it right here. His quit is important to you. Your quit is important to ne. But here's why that is so.

We talk about the 'abuse', the 'tough love'...whatever you want call it. The main reason I always busted on a caver is because it scared me. I've seen vets with commas cave and it scared the piss out of me.

Failure hits close to home. Our rage in dealing with the caver is a coping mechanism as much as anything. If we fire up in anger at a cave, we hope deep down it will motivate us to fail.
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: traumagnet on June 23, 2013, 08:54:00 PM
I am not an English major Gator but did you mean motivate us not to fail?
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: Instigator on June 23, 2013, 09:00:00 PM
Quote from: traumagnet
I am not an English major Gator but did you mean motivate us not to fail?
Er...yes. sorry.



:wub:
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: srans on June 23, 2013, 09:44:00 PM
Quote from: Instigator
Quote from: traumagnet
I am not an English major Gator but did you mean motivate us not to fail?
Er...yes. sorry.



:wub:
i think he needs a new spell check. Don't get it from trauma,,, please?
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: mney65 on June 23, 2013, 11:09:00 PM
Found a different site - much better. Finding real encouragement, support, and help for the quit. The new site is actually focused on quitting instead of anal retentive posting rules and pissing contests to see who has the biggest balls. Enjoy yourselves while I quit elsewhere.
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: Diesel2112 on June 23, 2013, 11:15:00 PM
Quote from: mney65
Found a different site - much better. Finding real encouragement, support, and help for the quit. The new site is actually focused on quitting instead of anal retentive posting rules and pissing contests to see who has the biggest balls. Enjoy yourselves while I quit elsewhere.
What site? Probably "Quit Smokeless" its where all the Pussies go to spin their tires in the mud.

"Oh, you caved today? Well that's ok, you tried real hard for 20 days. Great job. Get back on that horse and try again slugger. We will support you. The 5,232 time is always the charm".

Meanwhile you slooowly continue to commit suicide.

Enjoy the fag fest over there.

This sites for real quitters.

Close your account and get the fuck out.

Bitch.
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: LionHeartedGirl on June 23, 2013, 11:55:00 PM
Quote from: mney65
Found a different site - much better.  Finding real encouragement, support, and help for the quit.  The new site is actually focused on quitting instead of anal retentive posting rules and pissing contests to see who has the biggest balls.  Enjoy yourselves while I quit elsewhere.
Glad to be with the big balls.

See ya.

Edited to add: What's their stats over there? Did you know that on your own your chances of being quit in six months is 5%? Here... Your odds are nearly quadrupled. And guess what? If you post roll and follow the "rules" and are a man of HONOR and INTEGRITY (Former Air Force here, proud to have served my country so don't dare say I have no right to use those words) then your odds go up 100%.

You caved. And then you carried on like nothing happened and now you're mad at those calling you out? You are an addict and for your sake I hope someone at that other site has big balls too and can call you on it.
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: jaynellie on June 24, 2013, 12:01:00 AM
Quote from: mney65
Found a different site - much better. Finding real encouragement, support, and help for the quit. The new site is actually focused on quitting instead of anal retentive posting rules and pissing contests to see who has the biggest balls. Enjoy yourselves while I quit elsewhere.
Different Site?? You mean a softer more forgiving......don't talk honesty..don't give me shit...don't call me on my shit....We can't hold hands at recess?? Either way "Quit" is the only way.QLF!!!!
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: Diesel2112 on June 24, 2013, 12:08:00 AM
Quote from: LionHeartedGirl
Quote from: mney65
Found a different site - much better.  Finding real encouragement, support, and help for the quit.  The new site is actually focused on quitting instead of anal retentive posting rules and pissing contests to see who has the biggest balls.  Enjoy yourselves while I quit elsewhere.
Glad to be with the big balls.

See ya.

Edited to add: What's their stats over there? Did you know that on your own your chances of being quit in six months is 5%? Here... Your odds are nearly quadrupled. And guess what? If you post roll and follow the "rules" and are a man of HONOR and INTEGRITY (Former Air Force here, proud to have served my country so don't dare say I have no right to use those words) then your odds go up 100%.

You caved. And then you carried on like nothing happened and now you're mad at those calling you out? You are an addict and for your sake I hope someone at that other site has big balls too and can call you on it.
:wub: ^
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: LionHeartedGirl on June 24, 2013, 02:06:00 AM
From the aforementioned site:
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You will quit. Not necessarily today, tomorrow, or even this year. The fact that quitting is on your mind at all indicates you have some common sense. Guilt will hassle you every so often, you'll try to quit again, and you'll succeed or you'll fail. If you're successful, you're done. If you fail, you'll try again. Someday, you will quit.

The bottom line, as I said before, is keep quitting until it works (......) Thanks for reading this and I hope you keep up the effort.
This, gentlemen, is how I stayed a smoker for TWENTY FOUR YEARS.

Don't worry Marine. Quitting might not work today or tomorrow or the first 20 years you try but eventually you'll be successful. After all, we all die someday!

I'm a member of a private Facebook group with 12 women writers. These are great friends and very supportive and I wasn't sure I wanted to come here at first but I liked the idea of accountability. So I shared the concept with them and decided to "post roll" there. But I knew... I knew if I didn't continue adding 1's... If I caved... They wouldn't ask and if they did it would be lots of sweet encouragement and pats on the head to "keep trying". And really... What's the point then?

I know exactly what the point is. It's to be an attention whore. It's to get the pats on the back for doing a good job without risking any disapproval when you fail. I decided just about immediately that was pointless. I needed posting roll to MEAN something.

Our "rules" make our quits STRONG. His "hope" for "effort" makes a good salve for a dipper's weakness.
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: srans on June 24, 2013, 08:10:00 AM
Quote from: LionHeartedGirl
From the aforementioned site:
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You will quit. Not necessarily today, tomorrow, or even this year. The fact that quitting is on your mind at all indicates you have some common sense. Guilt will hassle you every so often, you'll try to quit again, and you'll succeed or you'll fail. If you're successful, you're done. If you fail, you'll try again. Someday, you will quit.

The bottom line, as I said before, is keep quitting until it works (......) Thanks for reading this and I hope you keep up the effort.
This, gentlemen, is how I stayed a smoker for TWENTY FOUR YEARS.

Don't worry Marine. Quitting might not work today or tomorrow or the first 20 years you try but eventually you'll be successful. After all, we all die someday!

I'm a member of a private Facebook group with 12 women writers. These are great friends and very supportive and I wasn't sure I wanted to come here at first but I liked the idea of accountability. So I shared the concept with them and decided to "post roll" there. But I knew... I knew if I didn't continue adding 1's... If I caved... They wouldn't ask and if they did it would be lots of sweet encouragement and pats on the head to "keep trying". And really... What's the point then?

I know exactly what the point is. It's to be an attention whore. It's to get the pats on the back for doing a good job without risking any disapproval when you fail. I decided just about immediately that was pointless. I needed posting roll to MEAN something.

Our "rules" make our quits STRONG. His "hope" for "effort" makes a good salve for a dipper's weakness.
You already caved again,, didn't you?? For what it's worth, see you..
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: jake frawley on June 24, 2013, 09:05:00 AM
'B.S.' 'Finger' 'arse' 'sos' 'BanDog' 'cry' 'cry' 'loot01' :rustaf1: :scowick: butt hurt
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: zam on June 24, 2013, 09:48:00 AM
Quote from: LionHeartedGirl
From the aforementioned site:
Quote
You will quit. Not necessarily today, tomorrow, or even this year. The fact that quitting is on your mind at all indicates you have some common sense. Guilt will hassle you every so often, you'll try to quit again, and you'll succeed or you'll fail. If you're successful, you're done. If you fail, you'll try again. Someday, you will quit.

The bottom line, as I said before, is keep quitting until it works (......) Thanks for reading this and I hope you keep up the effort.
This, gentlemen, is how I stayed a smoker for TWENTY FOUR YEARS.

Don't worry Marine. Quitting might not work today or tomorrow or the first 20 years you try but eventually you'll be successful. After all, we all die someday!

I'm a member of a private Facebook group with 12 women writers. These are great friends and very supportive and I wasn't sure I wanted to come here at first but I liked the idea of accountability. So I shared the concept with them and decided to "post roll" there. But I knew... I knew if I didn't continue adding 1's... If I caved... They wouldn't ask and if they did it would be lots of sweet encouragement and pats on the head to "keep trying". And really... What's the point then?

I know exactly what the point is. It's to be an attention whore. It's to get the pats on the back for doing a good job without risking any disapproval when you fail. I decided just about immediately that was pointless. I needed posting roll to MEAN something.

Our "rules" make our quits STRONG. His "hope" for "effort" makes a good salve for a dipper's weakness.
LHG is a bad ass. That insight into the "attention whore" is awesome. Something that has bothered me but wasn't able to put a finger on. I have seen this A LOT on this sight -- some people coming here not to quit, but because they mistakenly believe a bunch of people are gonna fawn over them and validate their idea of how much beyond their control this addiction is. Not to beat the addiction, but to have a bunch of people validate that they aren't weak just because they serve a nicotine master. They want validation to questions like: it IS beyond my control, right? Breaking my word is not an integrity issue is it? I'm a tough ass Marine, if I break my word, it was beyond my control, right? My addition is much worse than most, right? That's why I can't quit and you can, right? etc etc. And when they don't get the expected (and sought after) response, they get all butt-hurt.

BTW, mney has a point about the Marines: When I was wearing a uniform, we knew Marines to value honor and integrity. We also knew them to be dumber than a sack of rocks. Mney, be careful with you use stereotypes to back up a personal issue, as stereotypes can cut both ways.
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: traumagnet on June 24, 2013, 09:53:00 AM
Quote from: Zam
Quote from: LionHeartedGirl
From the aforementioned site:
Quote
You will quit. Not necessarily today, tomorrow, or even this year. The fact that quitting is on your mind at all indicates you have some common sense. Guilt will hassle you every so often, you'll try to quit again, and you'll succeed or you'll fail. If you're successful, you're done. If you fail, you'll try again. Someday, you will quit.

The bottom line, as I said before, is keep quitting until it works (......) Thanks for reading this and I hope you keep up the effort.
This, gentlemen, is how I stayed a smoker for TWENTY FOUR YEARS.

Don't worry Marine. Quitting might not work today or tomorrow or the first 20 years you try but eventually you'll be successful. After all, we all die someday!

I'm a member of a private Facebook group with 12 women writers. These are great friends and very supportive and I wasn't sure I wanted to come here at first but I liked the idea of accountability. So I shared the concept with them and decided to "post roll" there. But I knew... I knew if I didn't continue adding 1's... If I caved... They wouldn't ask and if they did it would be lots of sweet encouragement and pats on the head to "keep trying". And really... What's the point then?

I know exactly what the point is. It's to be an attention whore. It's to get the pats on the back for doing a good job without risking any disapproval when you fail. I decided just about immediately that was pointless. I needed posting roll to MEAN something.

Our "rules" make our quits STRONG. His "hope" for "effort" makes a good salve for a dipper's weakness.
LHG is a bad ass. That insight into the "attention whore" is awesome. Something that has bothered me but wasn't able to put a finger on. I have seen this A LOT on this sight -- some people coming here not to quit, but because they mistakenly believe a bunch of people are gonna fawn over them and validate their idea of how much beyond their control this addiction is. Not to beat the addiction, but to have a bunch of people validate that they aren't weak just because they serve a nicotine master. They want validation to questions like: it IS beyond my control, right? Breaking my word is not an integrity issue is it? I'm a tough ass Marine, if I break my word, it was beyond my control, right? My addition is much worse than most, right? That's why I can't quit and you can, right? etc etc. And when they don't get the expected (and sought after) response, they get all butt-hurt.

BTW, mney has a point about the Marines: When I was wearing a uniform, we knew Marines to value honor and integrity. We also knew them to be dumber than a sack of rocks. Mney, be careful with you use stereotypes to back up a personal issue, as stereotypes can cut both ways.
grunt shit with weak shit...you are getting your ass busted up by a female zoomy no offense LHG but we are zommies.
Title: Re: New Dip Free Member
Post by: LionHeartedGirl on June 24, 2013, 10:09:00 AM
Quote from: traumagnet
Quote from: Zam
Quote from: LionHeartedGirl
From the aforementioned site:
Quote
You will quit. Not necessarily today, tomorrow, or even this year. The fact that quitting is on your mind at all indicates you have some common sense. Guilt will hassle you every so often, you'll try to quit again, and you'll succeed or you'll fail. If you're successful, you're done. If you fail, you'll try again. Someday, you will quit.

The bottom line, as I said before, is keep quitting until it works (......) Thanks for reading this and I hope you keep up the effort.
This, gentlemen, is how I stayed a smoker for TWENTY FOUR YEARS.

Don't worry Marine. Quitting might not work today or tomorrow or the first 20 years you try but eventually you'll be successful. After all, we all die someday!

I'm a member of a private Facebook group with 12 women writers. These are great friends and very supportive and I wasn't sure I wanted to come here at first but I liked the idea of accountability. So I shared the concept with them and decided to "post roll" there. But I knew... I knew if I didn't continue adding 1's... If I caved... They wouldn't ask and if they did it would be lots of sweet encouragement and pats on the head to "keep trying". And really... What's the point then?

I know exactly what the point is. It's to be an attention whore. It's to get the pats on the back for doing a good job without risking any disapproval when you fail. I decided just about immediately that was pointless. I needed posting roll to MEAN something.

Our "rules" make our quits STRONG. His "hope" for "effort" makes a good salve for a dipper's weakness.
LHG is a bad ass. That insight into the "attention whore" is awesome. Something that has bothered me but wasn't able to put a finger on. I have seen this A LOT on this sight -- some people coming here not to quit, but because they mistakenly believe a bunch of people are gonna fawn over them and validate their idea of how much beyond their control this addiction is. Not to beat the addiction, but to have a bunch of people validate that they aren't weak just because they serve a nicotine master. They want validation to questions like: it IS beyond my control, right? Breaking my word is not an integrity issue is it? I'm a tough ass Marine, if I break my word, it was beyond my control, right? My addition is much worse than most, right? That's why I can't quit and you can, right? etc etc. And when they don't get the expected (and sought after) response, they get all butt-hurt.

BTW, mney has a point about the Marines: When I was wearing a uniform, we knew Marines to value honor and integrity. We also knew them to be dumber than a sack of rocks. Mney, be careful with you use stereotypes to back up a personal issue, as stereotypes can cut both ways.
grunt shit with weak shit...you are getting your ass busted up by a female zoomy no offense LHG but we are zommies.
No offense taken. It occurred to me. Lol