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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: TAYROD21 on March 07, 2011, 03:01:00 PM
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Hey all you quitters! haha hopefully soon i can call myself a quitter! my story is probably the same as some of yours. ever since i met my soon to be wife she HATED my horrible habit. but like any other addict i brushed it off and kept poppin chews in left and right. it got to the point where i hated chewing around her or even hated asking her to hand me my can becuase i knew she didnt want to but she realized that its an addiction and that i needed it. yesterday me and her were driving home and i needed to stop by the smoke shop and pick up a couple of cans to keep composed till i could get a half roll. as i payed 5 dollars for 2 cans (yes, its very cheap here) and as we left the smoke shack i told her "if you can find me something that will help me quit i will becuase i cant do it alone". low and behold i realized i dont need anything to help me except for myself and my own will power, i have tried to quit a couple times but couldnt untill now... i know that i can quit but im afraid that my mentality is only becuase i took my "last" dip out about 10 minutes ago so im still running on that last bit of nicotine. i came over this site at work this morning and havent stopped looking at it. i look at all of these people that quit chewing and it really gives me hope! any help with exactly how to use the site to its full potential would be awesome! well thats my story and today is the rest day of my life! and again any feedback is much appreciated! thank you!
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forgot to add some important info haha... ive been chewing for almost 5 years now at about a can a day... IM READY TO QUIT THIS STUFF!!!!!!
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Are you quit now or are you just thinking about it?
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I took my last chew out about a half an hour ago after checkin this site out... i have one full can at home that im going to use to surprise the fiance by telling her to open it and flush it down the crapper!
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I wouldn't play any games with it, call her now and tell her to dump it out.
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I wouldn't play any games with it, call her now and tell her to dump it out.
The can needs to go for a swim...down the toilet.
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well she is at work right now... her cell phone died, and i really want to be there with her becuase i want to do it together. i know that would mean more to her. but your right i dont want to play any games with her or myself... i wasnt serious about quitting before but now im going to be a full fledge quitter!
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I see you tried to post in your quit group. Well done.
Moderator Redtrain put this together. At the end is how you post roll. Congrats. You are a Brother now.
A how to get started by Remy:
index.php?showtopic=1360 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=1360)
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Quit Groups, What do they mean, by SOS
index.php?showtopic=88 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=88)
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Roll call, why we do it your word by LOOT.
index.php?showtopic=120 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=120)
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What to Expect when you quit.
http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/what.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/what.asp)
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Symptoms of Quitting dip and chew
http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/symptoms.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/symptoms.asp)
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Contract to give up...
http://www.killthecan.org/facts/contract.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/facts/contract.asp)
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Smokeless alternatives
http://killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp (http://killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp)
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Words of Wisdom, Read them all
index.php?showforum=41 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=41)
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May 2008 TTFers
index.php?showtopic=1179 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=1179)
Read this group from the very first post to the very last post.
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How to post roll.
index.php?showtopic=50 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50)
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How to Post ROLL CALL - Roll Call Instructions
Step 1 - Find the last (MOST RECENT) Roll Call
Step 2 - Hit the "Quote" button in the upper right hand corner.
Step 3 - Click your mouse ANYWHERE in The bottom Box
Step 4 - Hit Ctrl and "A" at the Same time so it looks like THIS
Step 5 - Hit Ctrl and "X" at the same time so there is NOTHING in Either Box
Step 6 - Click your mouse in the TOP BOX
Step 7 - Hit Ctrl and "V" at the same time to Past the info into the top box AND ADD YOUR info to the bottom of the list
Step 8 - Hit ADD REPLY below the bottom box
Step 9 - Go back to the 1st unread post, check to see that the last few people to post are still on your roll call. Keep your word.
You won't regret this,
Redtrain
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Acutally, brother Ready put that together Scowick.
I don't want to take undo credit, Ready will come looking for me.
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Acutally, brother Ready put that together Scowick.
I don't want to take undo credit, Ready will come looking for me.
:D
I seem to be making mistakes today. I stand corrected.
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I took my last chew out about a half an hour ago after checkin this site out... i have one full can at home that im going to use to surprise the fiance by telling her to open it and flush it down the crapper!
Dump it and do it before you get home! If you really WANT to quit for you its the right thing to do. Man up, it's going to be a bumpy ride but everyone on here is living proof it can be done. If you are commited this will be the only time in your life that you post a day 1. PM me if you need help and I'm serious don't try to go at this alone.
Man up, dump it out and do it now!
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thanks for all the info guys! this site will be helping me a TON! im actually pumped up to quit!
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Welcome tayrod
Willpower will work only for as long as you are determined to stay quit. But maintaining this resolve is probably not something you can simply will to happen. You need a plan. The plan will sustain your resolve.
Post roll every day. Commit yourself to helping others in your quit group to stay quit. Build up accountability. Keep your word.
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Acutally, brother Ready put that together Scowick.
I don't want to take undo credit, Ready will come looking for me.
:D
I seem to be making mistakes today. I stand corrected.
I freely give anything and everything that I have written, re-posted, cobbled together, consolidated other peoples fine post and or tactically aquired to anyone and everyone who has the balls to quit this horrible addiction.
In this war of quit, I have no copywrite's.
Yer not gonna look in the trunk are ya?
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Acutally, brother Ready put that together Scowick.
I don't want to take undo credit, Ready will come looking for me.
:D
I seem to be making mistakes today. I stand corrected.
I freely give anything and everything that I have written, re-posted, cobbled together, consolidated other peoples fine post and or tactically aquired to anyone and everyone who has the balls to quit this horrible addiction.
In this war of quit, I have no copywrite's.
Yer not gonna look in the trunk are ya?
There's no junk in that trunk. SFW (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeYl-0DSnFM)
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Acutally, brother Ready put that together Scowick.
I don't want to take undo credit, Ready will come looking for me.
:D
I seem to be making mistakes today. I stand corrected.
I freely give anything and everything that I have written, re-posted, cobbled together, consolidated other peoples fine post and or tactically aquired to anyone and everyone who has the balls to quit this horrible addiction.
In this war of quit, I have no copywrite's.
Yer not gonna look in the trunk are ya?
There's no junk in that trunk. SFW (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeYl-0DSnFM)
Where do I get one?
:wub:
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(clip) by telling her to open it and flush it down the crapper!
BRRRRAAAAKESSS!
No dude...it aint your chicks gig. You let her flush it and you leave yourself open to the old, "I'll show her!" routine.
Yous a big boy....you manage your shit by yourself. She can watch....and verbally participate...but YOU mange YOUR shit bro.
This quit aint about her. Boiled down, it has ZERO to do with her.
Again...this is YOUR shit....soon to be OUR shit when you post roll.
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Welcome. I know you want to be there with her, but knowing what I know now, I'd go ahead and get the can dumped before I got home. It's just not worth the risk. At the very least, I'd go ahead and tell her to have the can ready to dump when you got home. Then you will have some splainin to do if you get home and decide you are going to finish that can and then quit.
When you make up your mind that you are quitting, the nic bitch will be very unhappy. She will be whispering in your ear all sorts of reasons why you need to have "just one:" it helps me concentrate, it puts me in a better mood so people like me more, i can't stay awake on this long drive, etc... Know this will happen and be prepared. Also know that it's all bs. We can do everything better without nicotine, it's just that we're addicts and have forgotten and don't have enough sense to look around at all the people around us functioning without poisoning themselves. Most importantly, remember that we just quit for today. We can all quit for one day. Worry about tomorrow when it gets here. I've quit that way for the past 60 days. Keep plowing through the early days of your quit and know that it gets easier. There is no excuse to ever use that shit again.
Glad to be quit with you.
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Welcome. I know you want to be there with her, but knowing what I know now, I'd go ahead and get the can dumped before I got home. It's just not worth the risk. At the very least, I'd go ahead and tell her to have the can ready to dump when you got home. Then you will have some splainin to do if you get home and decide you are going to finish that can and then quit.
When you make up your mind that you are quitting, the nic bitch will be very unhappy. She will be whispering in your ear all sorts of reasons why you need to have "just one:" it helps me concentrate, it puts me in a better mood so people like me more, i can't stay awake on this long drive, etc... Know this will happen and be prepared. Also know that it's all bs. We can do everything better without nicotine, it's just that we're addicts and have forgotten and don't have enough sense to look around at all the people around us functioning without poisoning themselves. Most importantly, remember that we just quit for today. We can all quit for one day. Worry about tomorrow when it gets here. I've quit that way for the past 60 days. Keep plowing through the early days of your quit and know that it gets easier. There is no excuse to ever use that shit again.
Glad to be quit with you.
HEY THANKS A BUNCH MAN! very encouraging words!
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(clip) by telling her to open it and flush it down the crapper!
BRRRRAAAAKESSS!
No dude...it aint your chicks gig. You let her flush it and you leave yourself open to the old, "I'll show her!" routine.
Yous a big boy....you manage your shit by yourself. She can watch....and verbally participate...but YOU mange YOUR shit bro.
This quit aint about her. Boiled down, it has ZERO to do with her.
Again...this is YOUR shit....soon to be OUR shit when you post roll.
you know what loot your right, its MY journey not hers. i know she will be there to verbally help but this is my challenge and im ready to take it down! thats what i needed to hear and wouldnt have if it werent for this site!
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Tayrod, I hear the enthusiasm in your words, because you can sence that you are gonna gain control back in your life, rather than living your life scheduled around your discusting old dip routine.
I'm estatic to be quit with you! Be prepared for the oral fixations. Go out and get some sugar-free candy, gum, sunflower seeds, fake, whatever you like to fight the craves, cause you and I both know they will come, but unlike last time, you ARE NOT going to cave. You already promised to everybody that today is in the books, and tomorrow you will wake up and post roll first thing in the morning and swim in the suck. We are all here for you.
PM me if you need any numbers to call or txt during the day.
And like Loot said, this is YOUR QUIT, not hers! You do your dirty work!
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Tayrod, I hear the enthusiasm in your words, because you can sence that you are gonna gain control back in your life, rather than living your life scheduled around your discusting old dip routine.
I'm estatic to be quit with you! Be prepared for the oral fixations. Go out and get some sugar-free candy, gum, sunflower seeds, fake, whatever you like to fight the craves, cause you and I both know they will come, but unlike last time, you ARE NOT going to cave. You already promised to everybody that today is in the books, and tomorrow you will wake up and post roll first thing in the morning and swim in the suck. We are all here for you.
PM me if you need any numbers to call or txt during the day.
And like Loot said, this is YOUR QUIT, not hers! You do your dirty work!
oh im ready! im gonna try and order some fake just to try it out and if it dont work im going straight to seeds and gum. it will definatley be a bumpy road but with people like you on this site will make it so much easier knowing that im not the only one! its all about control and together we can make it happen!
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Okay well since for some reason i cant post anything new topics on any other messages board rooms on the site but i have to vent a tiny bit, so i dont really care if its in the wrong place haha... well its been about almost 7 hours of quit and im already about to lose my mind. mostly cuz of all the damn triggers! my usual routine of the day goes as follows: morning time- dip,work, coffee, maybe another dip. Afternoon- lunch (sometimes) dip, work another dip. driving home from work, dip. get home take a shower- dip. after dinner- dip. a little mid evening dip and then of course before bed dip. i guess what im trying to say is i have so many goddamn triggers or routines im really questioning how the hell i can do this! i mean i know i can and its gonna take a lot from myself but it really scares me how after only 7 hours of quit i can be craving nic so much! i guess 2marrow is another adventure an another day im ready to be nic free!
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Hey there, I am in the same boat. It has only been a couple of days for me. I came home Friday and committed to quit. The weekend was easier for me, filled with time for my family and easy to keep my mind off of it because I could keep busy. The work week and this morning I was not ready for. Drive in is usually spent with my first dip. Get in, log onto my computer, get some water and have another dip. Conference calls, another dip, lunch - more dip. And so on..... Whenever I wanted a dip today I got up and got a glass of water, chewed some gum, or had a jolly rancher. Something, ANYTHING except for tossing that shit in my mouth. Ride home was pure torture as I has to stop for gas. My normal routine includes going in, picking up a tin and getting gas. Not today, paid at the pump and was on my way
Got home, had dinner and thought......I normally would have a dip. So I did some work around the house shook it off. I realize that I can get support here but at the end of the day I have to say no, I have to want this. You can do this but you have to say no. Triggers are not going away, you are still going to drive, you are still going to shower (we hope), you are still going to work - you are just going to do these things without dip - because the truth is dip doesnt make you do them better. Hang in there bud the first couple days fucking blow but I am feeling a little bit better coming into day four. One day at a time.
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thats what i needed to hear. i decided to quit today and havent looked back. your work day seems exactly like mine (except for the conference meetings and whatnot haha) hopefully i can concentrate on some work and not having a dip. just ordered some hooch snuff tonite have you tried that at all? i just feel like i need something in my lip for now and ween off it eventually!
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Calm down as much as you can guys. Sometimes I feel as though I had a worse addiction (I don't by the way, we are all the same) because I kept a pinch in for only about 20 minutes and would swap it out immediately with another. Since I used swedish snus no one knew I was using because you don't have to spit and it was in the upper lip. I would not at any time be without one... sometimes I would eat with it in since swallowing it doesn't affect you like dip does. Quite literally, I had no more than about an hour of non-use per day. With swedish snus you could also sleep with it in without problem.
I honestly felt like quitting would be the same saying goodbye to my penis then chopping it off and throwing it in a river. Yeah, it was that bad. Once you commit to the quit you will realize that you can do it and it is only as hard as you make it. I made it hard on myself and wish I hadn't.
Let me know if you guys need anything.
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Calm down as much as you can guys. Sometimes I feel as though I had a worse addiction (I don't by the way, we are all the same) because I kept a pinch in for only about 20 minutes and would swap it out immediately with another. Since I used swedish snus no one knew I was using because you don't have to spit and it was in the upper lip. I would not at any time be without one... sometimes I would eat with it in since swallowing it doesn't affect you like dip does. Quite literally, I had no more than about an hour of non-use per day. With swedish snus you could also sleep with it in without problem.
I honestly felt like quitting would be the same saying goodbye to my penis then chopping it off and throwing it in a river. Yeah, it was that bad. Once you commit to the quit you will realize that you can do it and it is only as hard as you make it. I made it hard on myself and wish I hadn't.
Let me know if you guys need anything.
thanks magnum! that dip sounds crazy! did it just like taste sweet or somethin?
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thats what i needed to hear. i decided to quit today and havent looked back. your work day seems exactly like mine (except for the conference meetings and whatnot haha) hopefully i can concentrate on some work and not having a dip. just ordered some hooch snuff tonite have you tried that at all? i just feel like i need something in my lip for now and ween off it eventually!
Just speaking from my own experience, if you're trying to make it suck less I'm pretty sure there is no such thing. Drink water. Get rest. Eat sensibly. Embrace the suck. That's the advice I was given, and I think it's good counsel.
If you tell yourself you can't make it unless it sucks less, you'll fail. I'm no quit guru. I know more about what fails than what succeeds. I know this though: if you tell yourself you "need something" in order to keep from putting poop in your lip, you are already secretly plotting to put poop in your lip. So, get picky with yourself when you catch yourself saying things like that.
The only thing you need is the resolve to quit. Your commitment to quit will keep you quit, for exactly as long as you are committed - neither more nor less. So you need to design ways to strengthen that commitment.
Fake snuff cannot keep you from feeling bad. If you really understand the implications of that (I didn't) fake snuff might have a good role.
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Calm down as much as you can guys. Sometimes I feel as though I had a worse addiction (I don't by the way, we are all the same) because I kept a pinch in for only about 20 minutes and would swap it out immediately with another. Since I used swedish snus no one knew I was using because you don't have to spit and it was in the upper lip. I would not at any time be without one... sometimes I would eat with it in since swallowing it doesn't affect you like dip does. Quite literally, I had no more than about an hour of non-use per day. With swedish snus you could also sleep with it in without problem.
I honestly felt like quitting would be the same saying goodbye to my penis then chopping it off and throwing it in a river. Yeah, it was that bad. Once you commit to the quit you will realize that you can do it and it is only as hard as you make it. I made it hard on myself and wish I hadn't.
Let me know if you guys need anything.
thanks magnum! that dip sounds crazy! did it just like taste sweet or somethin?
It is just made with a different process but delivers more nicotine than American style dip. In fact "snuff" is what the English translation for snus is. The Scandinavians were the first to make oral tobacco common and they introduced it to the English people in the form of snus. The translation changed from Snus to snuff.
It has no sugar added to it like the American dip so it doesn't create spit. In essence it is like Snus is like southern comfort and dip is like Smirnoff ice. Each one gets your drunk (health problems) but one is just a different delivery system with a different flavor.
But it is completely unlike what the American companies are releasing under the name "snus". Skoal, Marlboro, and Camel are trying to take advantage of the new anti-smoking laws and trying to get smokers to switch to something that is not chewing tobacco that no "sophisticated" person would use. But really all they are selling is pouch chew that is dried out a little more.
And no, Swedish (not american) snus is completely unsweetened with no sugar at all. American dip and chew are the sweetest flavored tobaccos you will find. This is how they target the youth, even Kodiak and Copenhagen are sweet as hell compared to all the snus I tried during my years. You can swallow it because it is not fire cured and sweetened which makes it create spit.
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In short, living life is the "trigger". Believe me, we understand. You now have to learn to live your life without nicotine. Survive the 3-4 days of withdrawal, then its just a mind game.
And don't let Magnum's ad for Swedish snus make you think that snus is acceptable. Nicotine is nicotine. (Just kidding, Mag).
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Calm down as much as you can guys. Sometimes I feel as though I had a worse addiction (I don't by the way, we are all the same) because I kept a pinch in for only about 20 minutes and would swap it out immediately with another. Since I used swedish snus no one knew I was using because you don't have to spit and it was in the upper lip. I would not at any time be without one... sometimes I would eat with it in since swallowing it doesn't affect you like dip does. Quite literally, I had no more than about an hour of non-use per day. With swedish snus you could also sleep with it in without problem.
I honestly felt like quitting would be the same saying goodbye to my penis then chopping it off and throwing it in a river. Yeah, it was that bad. Once you commit to the quit you will realize that you can do it and it is only as hard as you make it. I made it hard on myself and wish I hadn't.
Let me know if you guys need anything.
thanks magnum! that dip sounds crazy! did it just like taste sweet or somethin?
It is just made with a different process but delivers more nicotine than American style dip. In fact "snuff" is what the English translation for snus is. The Scandinavians were the first to make oral tobacco common and they introduced it to the English people in the form of snus. The translation changed from Snus to snuff.
It has no sugar added to it like the American dip so it doesn't create spit. In essence it is like Snus is like southern comfort and dip is like Smirnoff ice. Each one gets your drunk (health problems) but one is just a different delivery system with a different flavor.
But it is completely unlike what the American companies are releasing under the name "snus". Skoal, Marlboro, and Camel are trying to take advantage of the new anti-smoking laws and trying to get smokers to switch to something that is not chewing tobacco that no "sophisticated" person would use. But really all they are selling is pouch chew that is dried out a little more.
And no, Swedish (not american) snus is completely unsweetened with no sugar at all. American dip and chew are the sweetest flavored tobaccos you will find. This is how they target the youth, even Kodiak and Copenhagen are sweet as hell compared to all the snus I tried during my years. You can swallow it because it is not fire cured and sweetened which makes it create spit.
thats very interesting mag, i guess ya learn somethin new everyday!
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And don't let Magnum's ad for Swedish snus make you think that snus is acceptable. Nicotine is nicotine. (Just kidding, Mag).
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oh i know nic is nic. i was just curious of the difference! :D
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And don't let Magnum's ad for Swedish snus make you think that snus is acceptable. Nicotine is nicotine. (Just kidding, Mag).
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oh i know nic is nic. i was just curious of the difference! :D
This is the key...
I keep telling all of these guys that rag on me for the Snus thing... If I am here there must be a reason to not use snus. And there are more than one. Its an addiction, it can kill you, its retarded expensive, and your a slave to a damn leaf.
I don't know how much more I have to say. It is a different animal from dip, just like smokes are, but everything about the addiction is the same.
I don't like that I can't try to educate people who don't even know what it is without others trying to discredit me. LaQuitter probably knows I am serious about my quit by now but him saying "just kidding" is likely false impression because he wouldn't have said "And don't let Magnum's ad for Swedish snus make you think that snus is acceptable " otherwise. I don't know how many times I have to say that I am here for a reason. If I was pushing Swedish snus on people I would not be putting so much damn effort in to my own quit and helping so many others.
Nicotine is nicotine. I don't care if you get it from smoke, dip, snus, gum, or patches. Either way your a pathetic addict giving in to a worthless poison. Does that make sense? Do you want to wake up every day and in any way put insecticide in your body and say that it helps you function?
That is why I quit. I don't give a shit what your delivery method was, you triggers might be different than me but you addiction is the same.
One day at a time... Never touch it again.
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Mag, personally I think you're a damn fine quitter.
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2:15 am and i cant F'ing sleep! i tried to hit the hay early and woke up every hour... its driving me nuts! its like i said in one of my dreams, i feel like my mind is wide awake but my body is daggin! ugh guess we will see how 2marrow goes wen roll call rolls around... for now im gonna try to get some damn sleep!
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2:15 am and i cant F'ing sleep! i tried to hit the hay early and woke up every hour... its driving me nuts! its like i said in one of my dreams, i feel like my mind is wide awake but my body is daggin! ugh guess we will see how 2marrow goes wen roll call rolls around... for now im gonna try to get some damn sleep!
This can stick around for a few weeks. It shall pass. Keep going. DO NOT CAVE.
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can someone explain to me why i cant put a picture up or post stuff in other rooms besides intros and quit groups... i want to use this site to its full potential but its not letting me!
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You can't post pictures, you can only post links to pictures.
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You can't post pictures, you can only post links to pictures.
oops sorry i meant for my profile picture... the one you see on the left wen you post something
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You can't post pictures, you can only post links to pictures.
oops sorry i meant for my profile picture... the one you see on the left wen you post something
My Controls upper right of your screen
then select "Edit Avator Settings"
If it won't work from there, I got nothing.....
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You can't post pictures, you can only post links to pictures.
oops sorry i meant for my profile picture... the one you see on the left wen you post something
My Controls upper right of your screen
then select "Edit Avator Settings"
If it won't work from there, I got nothing.....
okay thanks!
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i used to love me some swedish snus. that stuff had a ton of nicotine in it though.
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2:15 am and i cant F'ing sleep! i tried to hit the hay early and woke up every hour... its driving me nuts! its like i said in one of my dreams, i feel like my mind is wide awake but my body is daggin! ugh guess we will see how 2marrow goes wen roll call rolls around... for now im gonna try to get some damn sleep!
Just remember - this is part of the damage nicotine has done. Get mad, and get through it.
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i used to love me some swedish snus. that stuff had a ton of nicotine in it though.
No you didn't. You're addicted to nicotine. Don't romanticize that shit in here, or anywhere.
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2:15 am and i cant F'ing sleep! i tried to hit the hay early and woke up every hour... its driving me nuts! its like i said in one of my dreams, i feel like my mind is wide awake but my body is daggin! ugh guess we will see how 2marrow goes wen roll call rolls around... for now im gonna try to get some damn sleep!
Your body is going through some major changes, all for the better.
If you're having a hard time sleeping (like I did) I would recommend trying to work out more. Really exhaust yourself through the day.
I've also heard other guys suggest Nyquil or Tylonol PM for sleeping. I haven't tried them, and I don't know how you feel about it, just putting it out there.
Bottom line is, nicotine is a stimulant, so it didn't help you sleep. Your sleeplessness is the nic whore pissed at you. She's fucking with you so you will cave. Don't be a pussy and give in to her. Fight! Win!
PM if you need anything.
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2:15 am and i cant F'ing sleep! i tried to hit the hay early and woke up every hour... its driving me nuts! its like i said in one of my dreams, i feel like my mind is wide awake but my body is daggin! ugh guess we will see how 2marrow goes wen roll call rolls around... for now im gonna try to get some damn sleep!
Your body is going through some major changes, all for the better.
If you're having a hard time sleeping (like I did) I would recommend trying to work out more. Really exhaust yourself through the day.
I've also heard other guys suggest Nyquil or Tylonol PM for sleeping. I haven't tried them, and I don't know how you feel about it, just putting it out there.
Bottom line is, nicotine is a stimulant, so it didn't help you sleep. Your sleeplessness is the nic whore pissed at you. She's fucking with you so you will cave. Don't be a pussy and give in to her. Fight! Win!
PM if you need anything.
Just my 2 cents on this stuff. I use Tylenol Simply Sleep. It's basically Tylenol PM but without the pain killer part, just the drowsy stuff.
Been using it since way before the quit. Had hard time falling asleep since I was a kid. I would never use hard core sleeping pills cuz I've heard horror stories, and addict stories. But this is just enough to make you drowsy, like benadryl. It's so mild that if my kids cry at night I still wake up, and sometimes it doesnt even put me to sleep.
Keep up the good work.
Disclaimer: I'm not a doctor. But I did stay at a Holiday Inn once.
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2:15 am and i cant F'ing sleep! i tried to hit the hay early and woke up every hour... its driving me nuts! its like i said in one of my dreams, i feel like my mind is wide awake but my body is daggin! ugh guess we will see how 2marrow goes wen roll call rolls around... for now im gonna try to get some damn sleep!
Your body is going through some major changes, all for the better.
If you're having a hard time sleeping (like I did) I would recommend trying to work out more. Really exhaust yourself through the day.
I've also heard other guys suggest Nyquil or Tylonol PM for sleeping. I haven't tried them, and I don't know how you feel about it, just putting it out there.
Bottom line is, nicotine is a stimulant, so it didn't help you sleep. Your sleeplessness is the nic whore pissed at you. She's fucking with you so you will cave. Don't be a pussy and give in to her. Fight! Win!
PM if you need anything.
Just my 2 cents on this stuff. I use Tylenol Simply Sleep. It's basically Tylenol PM but without the pain killer part, just the drowsy stuff.
Been using it since way before the quit. Had hard time falling asleep since I was a kid. I would never use hard core sleeping pills cuz I've heard horror stories, and addict stories. But this is just enough to make you drowsy, like benadryl. It's so mild that if my kids cry at night I still wake up, and sometimes it doesnt even put me to sleep.
Keep up the good work.
Disclaimer: I'm not a doctor. But I did stay at a Holiday Inn once.
the fiance gave me some kava kava extract last night (was kinda freaking out, very emotional, thought i was having a panic attack, shit like that). i dont know if it was just a placebo effect but that shit seemed to work pretty good, im gonna take a couple to work just in case i get some crazy craves today, thanks for all the advice everyone
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For what its worth ---
After three decades, lots of triggers for me too, especially at night. I started getting up 45 minutes earlier and running. Between exercise and lack of nic in my system I am now falling asleep about 11 at night instead of 1-2am. Getting back in shape and staying clean - not a bad combo.
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so here i am with the fiance makin some dinner, waitin for survivor and readin up on some posts. and i start reading a intro from jaygib and noticing that he talks about god on some of his posts. he also points out that there are times he thinks of dipping. well it started to don on me, this will be my first weekend nic free, and i look at my fiance and say "this week is gonna be hard" and as i say that i hear her say "have faith"... i look at her to say something and realized she wasnt talking to me rather than the word jumble on wheel of fortune! found it wierd, funny, coincidental but at the same time spiritual considering i was just reading jaygibs intro... just thought i would share that!
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so here i am with the fiance makin some dinner, waitin for survivor and readin up on some posts. and i start reading a intro from jaygib and noticing that he talks about god on some of his posts. he also points out that there are times he thinks of dipping. well it started to don on me, this will be my first weekend nic free, and i look at my fiance and say "this week is gonna be hard" and as i say that i hear her say "have faith"... i look at her to say something and realized she wasnt talking to me rather than the word jumble on wheel of fortune! found it wierd, funny, coincidental but at the same time spiritual considering i was just reading jaygibs intro... just thought i would share that!
You need to start posting stuff like this in your group. It will promote accountability. This is the intro section and as far as i member this is your 3rd or 4th post in the intro section.
Post this stuff in yer group brudda.
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okay see now i know aha i tried asking that but i got no answers thank!
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okay see now i know aha i tried asking that but i got no answers thank!
goo
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so here i am with the fiance makin some dinner, waitin for survivor and readin up on some posts. and i start reading a intro from jaygib and noticing that he talks about god on some of his posts. he also points out that there are times he thinks of dipping. well it started to don on me, this will be my first weekend nic free, and i look at my fiance and say "this week is gonna be hard" and as i say that i hear her say "have faith"... i look at her to say something and realized she wasnt talking to me rather than the word jumble on wheel of fortune! found it wierd, funny, coincidental but at the same time spiritual considering i was just reading jaygibs intro... just thought i would share that!
You need to start posting stuff like this in your group. It will promote accountability. This is the intro section and as far as i member this is your 3rd or 4th post in the intro section.
Post this stuff in yer group brudda.
Get in there and talk it up. The bonds you form early will serve you well later on. Give and get numbers !!
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so here i am with the fiance makin some dinner, waitin for survivor and readin up on some posts. and i start reading a intro from jaygib and noticing that he talks about god on some of his posts. he also points out that there are times he thinks of dipping. well it started to don on me, this will be my first weekend nic free, and i look at my fiance and say "this week is gonna be hard" and as i say that i hear her say "have faith"... i look at her to say something and realized she wasnt talking to me rather than the word jumble on wheel of fortune! found it wierd, funny, coincidental but at the same time spiritual considering i was just reading jaygibs intro... just thought i would share that!
You need to start posting stuff like this in your group. It will promote accountability. This is the intro section and as far as i member this is your 3rd or 4th post in the intro section.
Post this stuff in yer group brudda.
Get in there and talk it up. The bonds you form early will serve you well later on. Give and get numbers !!
This is great stuff for your group ........ and for what it's worth, have faith. I mean that with all sincerity. I am more healthy now physically, mentally and spiritually than I have ever been. One thing the nicotine beast did was blind me to my condition in all of the above areas. Now that I am free, I am addressing all of those areas. Congrats, let me know if I can help!