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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: rob2857 on January 24, 2011, 07:05:00 PM
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Hey, I'm Rob and today is my first day of quitting. I'm 21 years old and currently a cadet at West Point. I started dipping 7 years ago in high school. I got into it because a lot of guys on my baseball and lacross teams did it and I thought it was cool. For the last 5 years or so I've been dipping about 5-7 cans a week. I've never tried quitting before, but I've gone for periods of up to probably like 5-6 days without a dip for various reasons. I wasnt intent on quitting, I just didnt have access to it becasue of two different military schools I was going through. So I understand what the first few days can feel like. I think the hardest thing about it will be that I'm good friends with a lot of guys who dip and even the Army as a whole has a pretty big dipping community (for lack of a better term). The barracks here are full of guys who dip and smoke and my roomate dips about a can a day. I know its stupid though and I'm dedicated to quitting. I just threw away a can yesterday that was about halfway full, and I havent had a dip since (so its been a little over a day since my last dip). I know the first few days wont actually be that tough for me since ive gone without it before, but after about I week I know the addiction will hit me pretty hard, especially since I dont get more than 6 hours of sleep usually during the week. Once I figure out how to use the roll call thing I'll post that tonight. Otherwise, thanks for any support/tips you can offer me.
-Rob
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Hey, I'm Rob and today is my first day of quitting. I'm 21 years old and currently a cadet at West Point. I started dipping 7 years ago in high school. I got into it because a lot of guys on my baseball and lacross teams did it and I thought it was cool. For the last 5 years or so I've been dipping about 5-7 cans a week. I've never tried quitting before, but I've gone for periods of up to probably like 5-6 days without a dip for various reasons. I wasnt intent on quitting, I just didnt have access to it becasue of two different military schools I was going through. So I understand what the first few days can feel like. I think the hardest thing about it will be that I'm good friends with a lot of guys who dip and even the Army as a whole has a pretty big dipping community (for lack of a better term). The barracks here are full of guys who dip and smoke and my roomate dips about a can a day. I know its stupid though and I'm dedicated to quitting. I just threw away a can yesterday that was about halfway full, and I havent had a dip since (so its been a little over a day since my last dip). I know the first few days wont actually be that tough for me since ive gone without it before, but after about I week I know the addiction will hit me pretty hard, especially since I dont get more than 6 hours of sleep usually during the week. Once I figure out how to use the roll call thing I'll post that tonight. Otherwise, thanks for any support/tips you can offer me.
-Rob
Rob, Welcome to KTC. A few things that I've gathered from your post. 1. You can easily make it a few days without tobacco if you haven't committed to quitting. 2. You have never made a promise to yourself to quit. You need to quit for yourself. Forever is a hard concept to grasp, so just quit for today and we can worry about tomorrow tomorrow. Read as much as you can on this site, get to know what we are all about. Stay nic free and post roll today, keep your promise, repeat tomorrow. Here is a link that explains how to post roll and some other important info. You will be part of the May Quit Group.
index.php?showforum=13 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13)
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Rob,
Golfer is right...you need to commit to quit. Your age makes this a hard decision...I knew it wasn't good for me at age 21, I just didn't believe bad shit would happen to me. Also, there is safety in numbers...lots of guys doing it builds a false sense of security.
You've got a bright future in front of you. And if you're at Westpoint, it's brighter than most. Picture telling your family and friends that the dentist "found something." How about having your tounge or jaw partially removed (look at the cancer pics if you need help). Imagine putting your family and friends through a living hell watching you shrivel and die as you lose your battle. Imagine your family Christmas and the "empty chair" you'd leave behind. You'll really fuck things up for alot of folks because you wanted more nicotine.
Look, nobody can make the decision for you. You must want to do it...you must want to be nic free. If you commit, you can do it. Who knows...you might even be the inspiration for others to kick the habit? I'm not judging...I crammed that shit in my lip for 20 years. I just wish I could talk to myself when I was your age. I'd kick the ever living shit out of myself for dipping.
Stay strong and thanks for your service.
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Thanks a lot for the encouragement and the link. I just posted roll for the first time of many.
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Hey, I'm Rob and today is my first day of quitting. I'm 21 years old and currently a cadet at West Point. I started dipping 7 years ago in high school. I got into it because a lot of guys on my baseball and lacross teams did it and I thought it was cool. For the last 5 years or so I've been dipping about 5-7 cans a week. I've never tried quitting before, but I've gone for periods of up to probably like 5-6 days without a dip for various reasons. I wasnt intent on quitting, I just didnt have access to it becasue of two different military schools I was going through. So I understand what the first few days can feel like. I think the hardest thing about it will be that I'm good friends with a lot of guys who dip and even the Army as a whole has a pretty big dipping community (for lack of a better term). The barracks here are full of guys who dip and smoke and my roomate dips about a can a day. I know its stupid though and I'm dedicated to quitting. I just threw away a can yesterday that was about halfway full, and I havent had a dip since (so its been a little over a day since my last dip). I know the first few days wont actually be that tough for me since ive gone without it before, but after about I week I know the addiction will hit me pretty hard, especially since I dont get more than 6 hours of sleep usually during the week. Once I figure out how to use the roll call thing I'll post that tonight. Otherwise, thanks for any support/tips you can offer me.
-Rob
Welcome Rob,
If you have the drive and commitment to be at West Point and to serve your country than you can have the same drive and commitment to Quit this habit that will take your life.
I think the toughest part for you will be your environment. Surrounded by dippers and smokers definetely makes it much harder. Try to remember that it doesn't matter what everyone else is doing, you're taking charge of your life. You are now in training to be a leader. What better way to lead than show your fellow officer candidates what it takes to say no to the Nic Bitch.
PM me if I can be of any help and thank you for your service to our country.
Brian
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Welcome future Army Officer. Two recommendations from someone about 6 years ahead of you: 1) Kill the nic bitch, 2) Go to Ranger School the first chance you get.
If you think quitting as a Cadet is hard, wait till you get to the real Army where you are surrounded by NCOs and soldiers who all dip or smoke. Quit now and make up your mind about it.
You can do it. I am right now, even while deployed with many coworkers and subordinates who dip or chew...and up my chain of command all the way past Brigade Command there are people who dip or chew. Quit it now and it will be less of an issue when you get to your unit.
Trust me, as someone who has gone through what you are going through, and as someone further down the career track from you...you don't want to have your hands tied to nicotine.
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Hey, I'm Rob and today is my first day of quitting. I'm 21 years old and currently a cadet at West Point. I started dipping 7 years ago in high school. I got into it because a lot of guys on my baseball and lacross teams did it and I thought it was cool. For the last 5 years or so I've been dipping about 5-7 cans a week. I've never tried quitting before, but I've gone for periods of up to probably like 5-6 days without a dip for various reasons. I wasnt intent on quitting, I just didnt have access to it becasue of two different military schools I was going through. So I understand what the first few days can feel like. I think the hardest thing about it will be that I'm good friends with a lot of guys who dip and even the Army as a whole has a pretty big dipping community (for lack of a better term). The barracks here are full of guys who dip and smoke and my roomate dips about a can a day. I know its stupid though and I'm dedicated to quitting. I just threw away a can yesterday that was about halfway full, and I havent had a dip since (so its been a little over a day since my last dip). I know the first few days wont actually be that tough for me since ive gone without it before, but after about I week I know the addiction will hit me pretty hard, especially since I dont get more than 6 hours of sleep usually during the week. Once I figure out how to use the roll call thing I'll post that tonight. Otherwise, thanks for any support/tips you can offer me.
-Rob
Rob, Welcome to KTC. A few things that I've gathered from your post. 1. You can easily make it a few days without tobacco if you haven't committed to quitting. 2. You have never made a promise to yourself to quit. You need to quit for yourself. Forever is a hard concept to grasp, so just quit for today and we can worry about tomorrow tomorrow. Read as much as you can on this site, get to know what we are all about. Stay nic free and post roll today, keep your promise, repeat tomorrow. Here is a link that explains how to post roll and some other important info. You will be part of the May Quit Group.
index.php?showforum=13 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13)
Sounds right it's amazing the weekends that would pass because I wasn't able to dip for reasons and I'd survive with just bits of physical withdrawal. Now actually have a quit date show up and the first hour of the morning was like Hell with my mind demanding an immediate change in course.
That said this quit has been a quit, not an attempt and with the right resolve from moment one I've shut down the enemy within. If you're there you'll still be here when you roll up to day 100.
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How about having your tounge or jaw partially removed (look at the cancer pics if you need help).
Yeah, that keeps me strong when I need it. Think of those gnarly "Cancer Pics" on the home page.
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How about having your tounge or jaw partially removed (look at the cancer pics if you need help).
Yeah, that keeps me strong when I need it. Think of those gnarly "Cancer Pics" on the home page.
I've seen those, and others on different websites. One of the main reasons I'm quiting now.
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Proud to be quit with you! Keep posting and stay quit. Try to remember as much about this quit as you can. You don't want to ever do this again!
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Welcome future Army Officer. Two recommendations from someone about 6 years ahead of you: 1) Kill the nic bitch, 2) Go to Ranger School the first chance you get.
If you think quitting as a Cadet is hard, wait till you get to the real Army where you are surrounded by NCOs and soldiers who all dip or smoke. Quit now and make up your mind about it.
You can do it. I am right now, even while deployed with many coworkers and subordinates who dip or chew...and up my chain of command all the way past Brigade Command there are people who dip or chew. Quit it now and it will be less of an issue when you get to your unit.
Trust me, as someone who has gone through what you are going through, and as someone further down the career track from you...you don't want to have your hands tied to nicotine.
Ditto and true dat. Kick this thing now before it gets way way harder for you. I'll see you at Roll Call
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So today I didnt have internet connection untill late tonight (why I had to do roll late) and made for more of a boring day. That served to make the cravings worse, as there was less to distract me during the day. Today's the first day that it was REALLY hard for me not to dip, and I wanted to read some on here but couldnt. It makes me appreciate the community a little more, even if I've only been a part of it since the beggingin of this week. Thanks for the support everyone, I really do draw on everyone else's willpower to quit as I stay quit.
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HowÂ’s our cadet doing today? Learn anything cool about our awesome Army today? Get some amazing PT in?
Just thinking about ya and wishing you a most awesome dip free day
Hootie out
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Rob - have you seen the "Contract" yet? I don't have a copy, but someone will send you the link if you ask for it. It is great to read when dealing with craves...especially early on. I put it in my truck before a hunting trip when I knew I would have no access for support. I can't say for sure that it kept me nic free, but it is inspirational...and every little bit helps, right?
Anyway, congrats and stay strong. You can do this. We're with you.
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Rob - have you seen the "Contract" yet? I don't have a copy, but someone will send you the link if you ask for it. It is great to read when dealing with craves...especially early on. I put it in my truck before a hunting trip when I knew I would have no access for support. I can't say for sure that it kept me nic free, but it is inspirational...and every little bit helps, right?
Anyway, congrats and stay strong. You can do this. We're with you.
Ive looked around, and I dont think I could find the "contract" you mentioned. I saw some posts by other users that had contract-like wording, but I'm not sure if that's what you meant. Does anyone have a link/copy of the contract? I'd definitely like to rread/have that.
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Rob - have you seen the "Contract" yet? I don't have a copy, but someone will send you the link if you ask for it. It is great to read when dealing with craves...especially early on. I put it in my truck before a hunting trip when I knew I would have no access for support. I can't say for sure that it kept me nic free, but it is inspirational...and every little bit helps, right?
Anyway, congrats and stay strong. You can do this. We're with you.
Ive looked around, and I dont think I could find the "contract" you mentioned. I saw some posts by other users that had contract-like wording, but I'm not sure if that's what you meant. Does anyone have a link/copy of the contract? I'd definitely like to rread/have that.
Ask and you shall receive:
http://www.killthecan.org/facts/contract.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/facts/contract.asp)
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Rob - have you seen the "Contract" yet? I don't have a copy, but someone will send you the link if you ask for it. It is great to read when dealing with craves...especially early on. I put it in my truck before a hunting trip when I knew I would have no access for support. I can't say for sure that it kept me nic free, but it is inspirational...and every little bit helps, right?
Anyway, congrats and stay strong. You can do this. We're with you.
Ive looked around, and I dont think I could find the "contract" you mentioned. I saw some posts by other users that had contract-like wording, but I'm not sure if that's what you meant. Does anyone have a link/copy of the contract? I'd definitely like to rread/have that.
Ask and you shall receive:
http://www.killthecan.org/facts/contract.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/facts/contract.asp)
I was only looking through the forums, I guess that's why I missed it when it was right in front of me. But wow, that is powerful. *a* challenge to yourself when you feel that the cravings are coming in. I just taped up a copy of that right above my computer. I really appreciate you sending me that link. Thanks
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Thanks Gmann. I should tape a copy of it to my forehead.
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Thanks for re-posting this contract. I hadn't seen this yet in my explorations of the site. Wow...that was some heavy shit right there. A big thanks to whoever first thought of that and wrote it for the community to share. I will now take a look at this whenever I feel a strong crave coming on.