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Im coming up on one week off of dip started when i was 13 now 36. Married have 3 kids would like to see them when there older. Most the men in my family chew and have for years, that will make it more difficult but i know i can do it. I work at the air national guard and family ranch. One of the reasons i quit was my blood pressure has been little high dock told me looks like im gonna need to be on bp meds. Thought there is one thing that i can do that could lower it some so i quit. Also was over needing it or feeling like shit. So many reasons to quit only one thing in way addiction. In my recent past had issues with anxiety learned to control it somewhat well. Nicotine helps with anxiety but can also give anxiety so the experts tell me so hoping when withdrawal gets better maybe my anxiety will also improve. That is the inly thing that really stands in my way. I have quit once for basic training and once i used patches but found my self chewing while drinking a week after i was completely off nic. I have had anxiety but have calmed and controlled myself but it does ware on person over a week.
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Im coming up on one week off of dip started when i was 13 now 36. Married have 3 kids would like to see them when there older. Most the men in my family chew and have for years, that will make it more difficult but i know i can do it. I work at the air national guard and family ranch. One of the reasons i quit was my blood pressure has been little high dock told me looks like im gonna need to be on bp meds. Thought there is one thing that i can do that could lower it some so i quit. Also was over needing it or feeling like shit. So many reasons to quit only one thing in way addiction. In my recent past had issues with anxiety learned to control it somewhat well. Nicotine helps with anxiety but can also give anxiety so the experts tell me so hoping when withdrawal gets better maybe my anxiety will also improve. That is the inly thing that really stands in my way. I have quit once for basic training and once i used patches but found my self chewing while drinking a week after i was completely off nic. I have had anxiety but have calmed and controlled myself but it does ware on person over a week.
J... glad to see you posting with July. Keep it up, first thing every morning. That's your promise to us and to yourself that you won't use nicotine that day.
You're past the point where the nic is out of your system, and into the fun days when your mind is going to play all sorts of games with you. Something that really helped me cope when I got to that point was understanding what was happening. I've sent you a PM with some links to articles on the site that talk about what you may experience, mentally and physically.
Recognize that when your body or mind does something weird in the next few months, it's almost assuredly because you're healing. Your body is learning to live without a constant stream of nicotine, which means you'll be getting healthier. Your brain is re-wiring itself and learning how to deal with things, good and bad, without nicotine screwing everything up.
I can't promise you that your anxiety will get better as you get deeper into your quit. I will tell you that I had very serious concerns about managing my temper, and after a couple of months, I realized that I had the cause/effect loop all wrong. I thought I would get angry, and need a chew to calm down - when in reality, not having my fix is what made me irritable and prone to anger. It may be that your anxiety may be similar - that simply giving yourself some time may help dull or even eliminate it.
Reach out to the other guys in your quit group, and the other quitters on the site. I guarantee, no matter what you're going through, somebody (and probably a lot of somebodies) has gone through it before. They may be able to give you advice, or just be there to empathize and tell you that yeah, it will get better. Reach out and ask.
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Im coming up on one week off of dip started when i was 13 now 36. Married have 3 kids would like to see them when there older. Most the men in my family chew and have for years, that will make it more difficult but i know i can do it. I work at the air national guard and family ranch. One of the reasons i quit was my blood pressure has been little high dock told me looks like im gonna need to be on bp meds. Thought there is one thing that i can do that could lower it some so i quit. Also was over needing it or feeling like shit. So many reasons to quit only one thing in way addiction. In my recent past had issues with anxiety learned to control it somewhat well. Nicotine helps with anxiety but can also give anxiety so the experts tell me so hoping when withdrawal gets better maybe my anxiety will also improve. That is the inly thing that really stands in my way. I have quit once for basic training and once i used patches but found my self chewing while drinking a week after i was completely off nic. I have had anxiety but have calmed and controlled myself but it does ware on person over a week.
J... glad to see you posting with July. Keep it up, first thing every morning. That's your promise to us and to yourself that you won't use nicotine that day.
You're past the point where the nic is out of your system, and into the fun days when your mind is going to play all sorts of games with you. Something that really helped me cope when I got to that point was understanding what was happening. I've sent you a PM with some links to articles on the site that talk about what you may experience, mentally and physically.
Recognize that when your body or mind does something weird in the next few months, it's almost assuredly because you're healing. Your body is learning to live without a constant stream of nicotine, which means you'll be getting healthier. Your brain is re-wiring itself and learning how to deal with things, good and bad, without nicotine screwing everything up.
I can't promise you that your anxiety will get better as you get deeper into your quit. I will tell you that I had very serious co
Thanks yeah i did think of that the withdrawal felt like anxiety attacks i had in the past. Or i would also get irrigated but it was cause my body need that nic fix and i waited to long. Really good point
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36 - 13 = 23 years an addict. Let that sink in.
It really does take a while to feel "normal" again after we quit. I found myself here after 35 years. After almost 600 days quit things are much better, but I still think my brain has some "unwiring" to do. It will take time but you have found the right place to spend the time. Read, read, read everything here. Wake up and post roll here every morning.
I quit with you today! Stranger999 - day 594
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Nicotine, arguably as effective as a benzodiazepine for treating anxiety. Sadly, nicotine is more habit forming, dependency forming, and addictive. Point is, anxiety can be treated with other options, keeping nicotine in the fold just creates problems; or like you said, causes more anxiety. I can tell you this, quitting nicotine...will remove anxiety around quitting. May not be today, or tomorrow, but trust me...the anxiety of quitting goes away. And it feels absolutely fantastic. Keep at it, keep posting. Quit with you.
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Well at day7 i feel ok little off muscle tightness and some fog comes and goes some cravings. I really think about the advice given to me from this website and thanks to you all feel like i made it though the worst of the suck but i know its up and down. In my mind im going to try and link my anxiety and high bp to chew doesn't matter if it really is or not if i make myself believe it i will hate dip even more. That hatered of dip will keep me off of it in the long run i think. It might make my anxiety better also cause its all in the head also.That is my plan
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Well at day7 i feel ok little off muscle tightness and some fog comes and goes some cravings. I really think about the advice given to me from this website and thanks to you all feel like i made it though the worst of the suck but i know its up and down. In my mind im going to try and link my anxiety and high bp to chew doesn't matter if it really is or not if i make myself believe it i will hate dip even more. That hatered of dip will keep me off of it in the long run i think. It might make my anxiety better also cause its all in the head also.That is my plan
JMcKay - PM for digits if you like, I am open to text or talk any time, for a fellow quitter.
I dipped, chewed, or smoked (sometime more than one at once!) from when I was 13 until I was 46. I had tried and "tried" to quit, and failed more times than I could count. I was going to quit when I joined the Navy, when I finished A School, when I got to my ship, when I made my first deployment, 2nd deployment, when I got out, when I went to college, my first summer in college, 2nd summer, 3rd summer, when I graduated, when I got married, when I had my 1st son, 2nd, 3rd....you get the idea. I never went more than 3 days before I flipped out and bought a can. I had pretty much decided that this was my fate, to die as a slave to the can. If I can make it to freedom, anyone can do it. Just follow directions on KTC and get a little fanatical - it won't hurt you!
I understand about the emotional ups and downs, I had some problems with anxiety, anger, drinking or eating as a substitute for nic....I am now at about 4.5 years of my freedom and have never felt better!
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My service is up and down will try to get on here and post. Out camping while checking cattle working on fince and barns. This is where i have a hard time staying quit. Most the time i chewed i did it or I'd feel like crap but out camping and working on stuff outside i always had a dip and i liked it. Day 8 now so there is no nic in my system but my body is not happy. I am just not enjoying things the way i did. My resolve is super high i dont wonna be a slave to this crap i would like to see how i feel next year when i still haven't taken a chew.
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My service is up and down will try to get on here and post. Out camping while checking cattle working on fince and barns. This is where i have a hard time staying quit. Most the time i chewed i did it or I'd feel like crap but out camping and working on stuff outside i always had a dip and i liked it. Day 8 now so there is no nic in my system but my body is not happy. I am just not enjoying things the way i did. My resolve is super high i dont wonna be a slave to this crap i would like to see how i feel next year when i still haven't taken a chew.
Well, the good news is you don't have to worry about dipping next year, you only don't have to take a dip today.
Every time you do something without dip that you used to, you are breaking a chain and freeing your mind.
Your body is rewiring itself without dip, and so is your mind - even after the dip has left your body.
I sent you my number - call or text anytime - we can do together what we could not do alone. I quit with you today
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Still out camping still want a chew still haven't. The cravings come and go and some of the other things over all improving. Have Been readings others struggles and makes me feel better to know my issues are like others and some of them quit years ago and feel great. Helps give a person the drive to push though the suck.
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Still out camping still want a chew still haven't. The cravings come and go and some of the other things over all improving. Have Been readings others struggles and makes me feel better to know my issues are like others and some of them quit years ago and feel great. Helps give a person the drive to push though the suck.
We have been where you are (not that particular camp site). 10 days a huge milestone. Take stock in your quit and take a mental inventory of the tools you have to stay quit. You've got this! August 17 just kicked off. Watch it closely and start to support a new quitter. This will greatly help put resolve into your own quit.
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Still out camping still want a chew still haven't. The cravings come and go and some of the other things over all improving. Have Been readings others struggles and makes me feel better to know my issues are like others and some of them quit years ago and feel great. Helps give a person the drive to push though the suck.
Push through the suck. You mentioned you have anxiety and I do as well. What helps is to stay active on the site and text or talk to people if you can. Gone cruising also had some anxiety with his quit if you look at his signature it has a link to some very useful information. I bought the book he recommended and he mentions vitamins as well as working out to help with stress. If you can move your body for a half hour a day it will help your mind and your quit. If you need anything send a pm. Anxiety sucks. Quitting sucks. But take it one day at a time. Sometimes I have had to do a minute at a time. But it gets better
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Glad to see that you got in here and posted roll brother. This is the best thing that I have ever done in my life. I'm sure it will be for you. Keep posting roll and adding to the quit total 24 hours at a time. It's that easy, the suck will get better and better.
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Glad to see that you got in here and posted roll brother. This is the best thing that I have ever done in my life. I'm sure it will be for you. Keep posting roll and adding to the quit total 24 hours at a time. It's that easy, the suck will get better and better.
I can say it has improved vastly over the last couple days. Not perfect but better and i will take that for sure.
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Today was good untell i got agitated and it just festered and than i felt super angry. At day 12 hoping thats not the new normal and just withdral effects. The ups and downs of quiting this crap.
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Today was good untell i got agitated and it just festered and than i felt super angry. At day 12 hoping thats not the new normal and just withdral effects. The ups and downs of quiting this crap.
you have to push through those times of frustration...dont use your old friend nicotine to help you through it. That can will kill you if given the chance. You are doing well....quit on!!!!
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Day 14 two weeks kind of a milestone, has not been one of the best quit days just blah and in the fog and down im trying to keep positive. I have been telling myself it will improve and i think it helps. Something that is great for me is my blood pressure is lower than it was when chewing that is major boost to wonna stay quit.i knew this would be little rough on me i started young dipped heavy for 23years so its gonna take time for the brain to adjust.
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Today was good untell i got agitated and it just festered and than i felt super angry. At day 12 hoping thats not the new normal and just withdral effects. The ups and downs of quiting this crap.
This isn't going to be what you want to hear but......I had days like that well into the 200's where, after I'd had begun to feel like a rational person once again, a day would come along and I'd find myself furious over frivolous little things. It felt like day 1 quit rage. It would catch me and everyone around me by surprise. I started to question whether I'd ever be sane again or if maybe down deep underneath it all I was just an asshole. The jury's still out on that one, but it seems like in the last 100 days or so I very seldom have those moments of a rage come over me. Although it does still happen from time to time.
You are far from experiencing the "new norm" things continue to get better even beyond 300. Maybe someone else will drop in and coment on their experience beyond 376. ;)
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Today was good untell i got agitated and it just festered and than i felt super angry. At day 12 hoping thats not the new normal and just withdral effects. The ups and downs of quiting this crap.
This isn't going to be what you want to hear but......I had days like that well into the 200's where, after I'd had begun to feel like a rational person once again, a day would come along and I'd find myself furious over frivolous little things. It felt like day 1 quit rage. It would catch me and everyone around me by surprise. I started to question whether I'd ever be sane again or if maybe down deep underneath it all I was just an asshole. The jury's still out on that one, but it seems like in the last 100 days or so I very seldom have those moments of a rage come over me. Although it does still happen from time to time.
You are far from experiencing the "new norm" things continue to get better even beyond 300. Maybe someone else will drop in and coment on their experience beyond 376. ;)
The one year mark was a big one for me. Just hang in there with the belief that you will get over the anger and cravings. I rarely and almost never even think about dip. Keep pushing on bro!
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Today was good untell i got agitated and it just festered and than i felt super angry. At day 12 hoping thats not the new normal and just withdral effects. The ups and downs of quiting this crap.
This isn't going to be what you want to hear but......I had days like that well into the 200's where, after I'd had begun to feel like a rational person once again, a day would come along and I'd find myself furious over frivolous little things. It felt like day 1 quit rage. It would catch me and everyone around me by surprise. I started to question whether I'd ever be sane again or if maybe down deep underneath it all I was just an asshole. The jury's still out on that one, but it seems like in the last 100 days or so I very seldom have those moments of a rage come over me. Although it does still happen from time to time.
You are far from experiencing the "new norm" things continue to get better even beyond 300. Maybe someone else will drop in and coment on their experience beyond 376. ;)
The one year mark was a big one for me. Just hang in there with the belief that you will get over the anger and cravings. I rarely and almost never even think about dip. Keep pushing on bro!
^^^Day 1,255 right there!
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Today was better than yesterday, but still had fog and felt anxious, was thinking i could get anxiety meds if it wears me down enough. Just really shitty wishing i could feel normal and great. Thanks for the advice i will keep on quiting.
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Today was better than yesterday, but still had fog and felt anxious, was thinking i could get anxiety meds if it wears me down enough. Just really shitty wishing i could feel normal and great. Thanks for the advice i will keep on quiting.
This too shall pass. That is a saying that you need to get used to for a little while brother. I know you have been hearing that it gets better almost everyday but I promise you that it does. Some people do need to use anxiety meds to help with it, there is nothing wrong with that at all. I have been on prosac for years and honestly, it has helped me get through some of my hardest days of being quit. Keep your head up and you will get through it. All this shit you are going through is worth it!!
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proud that you decided to quit and sorry it took me so long to get in here an reach out. You will have good days and bads but you will always have victories when you stack another day quit on another day quit...keep focused on that ODAAT...one day at a time...that is the only way to make this work...reach out and get digits of your fellow quitters as I have found that I would not have made it with that link. keep on quitting you are doing great!!!! I will send you my digits via PM.
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Had my first dip dream couple days ago super intense put chew in my mouth then felt like a awful failure.it seemed so real and in minutes i spit it out and was so pissed i did that it woke me up and i felt like crap. Man the nic bitch is powerful. Today was one of the better days ive had so that was needed very much. The advice from others has helped out a great deal cause some days i think i am goin nuts for real.
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Had my first dip dream couple days ago super intense put chew in my mouth then felt like a awful failure.it seemed so real and in minutes i spit it out and was so pissed i did that it woke me up and i felt like crap. Man the nic bitch is powerful. Today was one of the better days ive had so that was needed very much. The advice from others has helped out a great deal cause some days i think i am goin nuts for real.
It is great to post this in here as a journal of some sort, I do feel that it would be great if you posted it in July as well so we can get the guys talking about the real struggles and get you guys supporting each other!! Those dreams will get you in the boo boo every time. Just remember, it was just a dream.
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28 days with out nic in my system and i have diffently improved. I have good and bad days but the good are coming around more and bad less. I post this so others that quit will read it and gain strength from it. When i say good or bad i dont mean cravings i mean anxiety, cause it really messes the day up when its bad. Something that is helping me is meditation. Mindfulness meditation work on calm myself and my brain. Work on being happy really has helped me. At this stage its all in the head but it was really always in the head when you think about it. So it really is mind over over matter but will take time. Things do tast better now. Went to doc blood pressure is lower dont need meds that was really awesome and will help keep me off the nic bitch train.
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28 days with out nic in my system and i have diffently improved. I have good and bad days but the good are coming around more and bad less. I post this so others that quit will read it and gain strength from it. When i say good or bad i dont mean cravings i mean anxiety, cause it really messes the day up when its bad. Something that is helping me is meditation. Mindfulness meditation work on calm myself and my brain. Work on being happy really has helped me. At this stage its all in the head but it was really always in the head when you think about it. So it really is mind over over matter but will take time. Things do tast better now. Went to doc blood pressure is lower dont need meds that was really awesome and will help keep me off the nic bitch train.
Awesome to hear brother!
One day at a time + support = winning.
Life improvements do take time but everyone who quits will see them. It's great that you are here and keeping a log of your journey for others to read. Keep it up! B)B
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Just an update on how my quit is going for me to look back on and for those that haven't even quit yet that might read this. Im at day 48 and over all have improved a bunch. I have days that are still worse than than others but over all getting better. Other than quiting i struggled with anxiety so i really feared my anxiety would take my quit down. But anxiety is worrying abou things that have not happened kind of like quit one day at a time if you bit off to much worry bout to much it will hurt your quit and raise anxiety. I have been working out i started off slow working out cause if i pushed myself it would make me feel anxious. Now i seem to hit it pretty hard in gym and feel good. I've been doing mindful meditation it can. Change your mood if you work at it enough. I know my quit will stick cause i want to be healthy i want to live a long life. I think i read this some place on here if you use nic for years gonna take some time to heal from the effects years of niccotine.
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So its day 157 now. Working on my second hundred days and its much easier than my first. I'm writing this to help me remember how I felt at different stages and maybe it will help someone else also. One of my main reasons for quitting was to feel better and be healthier and the last 50 days I've had anxiety attacks that fucked me up so after that happened few times I really started thinking maybe I will just go back to dipping cause I really just wanna feel good. That was my fear and the nic bitch controlling me. The doc found im low on multiple things so taking supplement that caused me to feel strange aka anxious. The doc told me my brain has rewire its self for the supplements im taking. So I am rewiring as an addict and some other shit when I think of it like this it helps me to realise I need to give it time to stabilize. I expect instant gratification and recovery is up and down. Lookin back at last couple days its the best I've felt in a long time. I know I'll have bad days to come but im gaining strength I didn't even know id lost. I'm starting to feel like a new me. Something I use that helps is fake dip but I will need to stop using it some day cause I can tell I'm psychologically addicted to it and will suck to stop it as well but that is tomorrow's me problem. Today no nic but fake dip.
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Today was good untell i got agitated and it just festered and than i felt super angry. At day 12 hoping thats not the new normal and just withdral effects. The ups and downs of quiting this crap.
This isn't going to be what you want to hear but......I had days like that well into the 200's where, after I'd had begun to feel like a rational person once again, a day would come along and I'd find myself furious over frivolous little things. It felt like day 1 quit rage. It would catch me and everyone around me by surprise. I started to question whether I'd ever be sane again or if maybe down deep underneath it all I was just an asshole. The jury's still out on that one, but it seems like in the last 100 days or so I very seldom have those moments of a rage come over me. Although it does still happen from time to time.
You are far from experiencing the "new norm" things continue to get better even beyond 300. Maybe someone else will drop in and coment on their experience beyond 376. ;)
The rage has improved a lot and that's a good thing if I kept it up I would have been fired for flipping out at work 'bangin' 'Shoot' 'Finger' haha.
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Thought I would update this intro with somethings that crossed my mind. Im past 7 months quit now but still an addict still have cravings for it few times a day. I'm using fake dip its deffently a crutch, I don't have the freedom that some have cause the habit of the addiction is still alive. The habit of the addiction has grown weaker over the months but I do reinforce it with fake. Its something I've noticed but I'm not ready to let it go but there will come a time that the habit of chewing will have to go for my quit to be final.
A guy I work with is quitting I told him to go to this site but dont think he will. He only had 5 days quit took a dip don't think he will stay quit. I've noticed something how much you dipped does make a difference on how hard it will be to quit. If you dipped none stop for years the chemical addiction will be stronger than if dipped couple times a day. The habit of the addiction will also be stronger. I've felt my triggers some are stronger than others. When you dipped none stop for years your gonna have triggers none stop. There are consequences to dipping heavy vs light but it's all the same addiction. What I'm saying is if you made your addiction a big part of your life you'll have to make your quit as big of a part. Day after day I keep saying no to the addiction its a house I built and a house only I can destroy and will.
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Today was good untell i got agitated and it just festered and than i felt super angry. At day 12 hoping thats not the new normal and just withdral effects. The ups and downs of quiting this crap.
It's normal for awhile. Bring that anger here and pick a fight, we can take it!
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Today was good untell i got agitated and it just festered and than i felt super angry. At day 12 hoping thats not the new normal and just withdral effects. The ups and downs of quiting this crap.
It's normal for awhile. Bring that anger here and pick a fight, we can take it!
That was awhile back. In april I quit and everything was making me wonna snap. Anger now is good pretty much I'd say normal.
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Day after day I keep saying no to the addiction its a house I built and a house only I can destroy and will.
I like that analogy... and yes! It is something only you can destroy.
Only you can say "to hell with it"
Only you can say "my family isn't worth it"
Only you can say "a dead plant is more important than _____"
Nobody is gonna hold you down and shove that shit in your mouth. Only you can destroy what you have built. The best part is, your house is something that gets stronger with every storm, and every day you post roll. It has gotten easier, and will continue to do so.
Your house looks pretty good brother...
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I've been on 30 day diet i only made it 8 days I went without eating any wheat rye soy oats no grains no rice no milk product no sugar or processed foods. I could have meat vegetables fruits which should be just fine. Im not sure what the hell happened I would have times when I'd Feind for carbs sugar. My muscles got tight on like 6th and 7th day had head ache head fog muscle spasms racing heart had full out anxiety I could feel my body wanted nicotine also probably to calm me. I was dipping fake chew twice as much as I usually did. I don't know what the hell but thought I would post it. Think I was reacting to cutting out carbs and sugar and nicotine jumped back in the mix to help make it super withdraw fuck up. So went ahead and quit the diet for now didn't wonna start chewing agian. I've never cut out carbs like that before in my life. Is my body just that use to sugar that it withdraw like that from lack of sugar. Anyone diet like this before and felt like shit.
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I've been on 30 day diet i only made it 8 days I went without eating any wheat rye soy oats no grains no rice no milk product no sugar or processed foods. I could have meat vegetables fruits which should be just fine. Im not sure what the hell happened I would have times when I'd Feind for carbs sugar. My muscles got tight on like 6th and 7th day had head ache head fog muscle spasms racing heart had full out anxiety I could feel my body wanted nicotine also probably to calm me. I was dipping fake chew twice as much as I usually did. I don't know what the hell but thought I would post it. Think I was reacting to cutting out carbs and sugar and nicotine jumped back in the mix to help make it super withdraw fuck up. So went ahead and quit the diet for now didn't wonna start chewing agian. I've never cut out carbs like that before in my life. Is my body just that use to sugar that it withdraw like that from lack of sugar. Anyone diet like this before and felt like shit.
Yep... that sucks balls!
IÂ’m a very low carb/natural eater and let me tell ya... what you just went through is textbook normal. Our over carbed eating fÂ’s up the body like you wouldnÂ’t believe. When you have all that crap in your body thereÂ’s no end of material for your body to burn. Carb upon carb.
When you dump all that shit it one fell swoop, there’s comes a point when the carbs get burned up and your body has to switch gears in a BIG way... it has to start burning fat as fuel. That time period of switch over can make you feel like complete shit... it’s called the “Carb Flu”. Your body is adjusting to its new way of burning energy. It’s totally normal... not fun but normal. It’s at this point where most people fail. It only last for a short period... 2-4 days maybe? Everyone is different. Push through because the flip side feels pretty damn great. If it’s too much... step it down. It’s a good thing you’re doing for your body so don’t sabotage it and quit too early. Maybe you went a little too hardcore. No big. Do some research on it through Authority Nutrition... great website. Good luck man!
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I've been on 30 day diet i only made it 8 days I went without eating any wheat rye soy oats no grains no rice no milk product no sugar or processed foods. I could have meat vegetables fruits which should be just fine. Im not sure what the hell happened I would have times when I'd Feind for carbs sugar. My muscles got tight on like 6th and 7th day had head ache head fog muscle spasms racing heart had full out anxiety I could feel my body wanted nicotine also probably to calm me. I was dipping fake chew twice as much as I usually did. I don't know what the hell but thought I would post it. Think I was reacting to cutting out carbs and sugar and nicotine jumped back in the mix to help make it super withdraw fuck up. So went ahead and quit the diet for now didn't wonna start chewing agian. I've never cut out carbs like that before in my life. Is my body just that use to sugar that it withdraw like that from lack of sugar. Anyone diet like this before and felt like shit.
Yep... that sucks balls!
IÂ’m a very low carb/natural eater and let me tell ya... what you just went through is textbook normal. Our over carbed eating fÂ’s up the body like you wouldnÂ’t believe. When you have all that crap in your body thereÂ’s no end of material for your body to burn. Carb upon carb.
When you dump all that shit it one fell swoop, there’s comes a point when the carbs get burned up and your body has to switch gears in a BIG way... it has to start burning fat as fuel. That time period of switch over can make you feel like complete shit... it’s called the “Carb Flu”. Your body is adjusting to its new way of burning energy. It’s totally normal... not fun but normal. It’s at this point where most people fail. It only last for a short period... 2-4 days maybe? Everyone is different. Push through because the flip side feels pretty damn great. If it’s too much... step it down. It’s a good thing you’re doing for your body so don’t sabotage it and quit too early. Maybe you went a little too hardcore. No big. Do some research on it through Authority Nutrition... great website. Good luck man!
I already jacked up the diet its suppose to end after 30 days you bring back one group at a time and see how the body reacts to it. Well I brought some of them back way to early so for that purpose Im done with the diet. Its also suppose to change the way I think about food and after a week it did. I wasn't eating vegetables much and was eating way to many carbs from bread cheeses yogurts crackers of all kind and chips. I hadn't missed a day of bread carbs Or sugars in over a decade I bet. The withdraw was very similar to nicotine so much so it made me wonna chew more and I've been quit 271 days. It was crazy my muscles were so tight I was having spasms that hurt crazy shit. I've learned USA is all about eating carbs and I'm gonna need to change my mind set.Thanks for responding
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Last night felt like a win quitting. Went to a friend 40th birthday party at a bar of coarse. There was dipping and smoking everywhere. Couple times people walked up to me tried to get me to smoke a cigar and I was like hell no had to explain myself over and over. People were like it's a cigar you won't start chewing was like hell no. then one of my friends ask how much money would I need to give you for you to take just one chew. He asked would a thousand make you take a dip told him hell no get that shit out of here. 10000 I told him I still wouldn't take a dip 25000 told him nope won't do it. He told me you must be wealth to not take ONE chew for that much money. I told him I'm not wealth but I quit so I will never take one chew and I promised wouldn't take one. But I'm glad no one will have money to try to tempt me.
Jmckay 282
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Last night felt like a win quitting. Went to a friend 40th birthday party at a bar of coarse. There was dipping and smoking everywhere. Couple times people walked up to me tried to get me to smoke a cigar and I was like hell no had to explain myself over and over. People were like it's a cigar you won't start chewing was like hell no. then one of my friends ask how much money would I need to give you for you to take just one chew. He asked would a thousand make you take a dip told him hell no get that shit out of here. 10000 I told him I still wouldn't take a dip 25000 told him nope won't do it. He told me you must be wealth to not take ONE chew for that much money. I told him I'm not wealth but I quit so I will never take one chew and I promised wouldn't take one. But I'm glad no one will have money to try to tempt me.
Jmckay 282
Congrats on the Victory Jay. A friend of mine had been quit for 10 years. He and his wife had a daughter and someone was passing out celebratory cigars. He thought what could just one cigar hurt at a moment like this. He struggled for years to get quit again.
It doesn't matter what my favorite method of nicotine delivery was, if I put Nic in my body, I'm hooked all over again.
Freedom from nicotine is one of my most valued possessions these days, just below my family. Like you, there no amount of money I'd sell it for.
Keep on quit'n brother!
Mike 644 days of freedom!!
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Well last night I had my second dip dream. Its crazy almost 10 months and it was as strong as it was at 2 months quit. I was down at Disney land going there next Friday. A friend had a partial can threw it to me told me you can't enjoy Being here without little of this. I was like yeah just a little my mouth was watering I wanted that dip bad. Put that chew in I could feel nicotine flowing in my veins it was like uforia don't know if that's spelled right. Anyway it felt so dam amazing. After 5 mins I went ooooooo fuck spit it out and was like SHIT SHIT SHIT I have to start at day one again I don't wonna start at day one I'm 300 in. In my mind I justified 5 min doesn't count as a chew haha but I felt so bad it woke me up. This is how I know this place works you would think telling my wife I caved would be harder but tell everyone on Ktc I caved and was going back to day one was harder. I truly don't get it guess its the brotherhood. Real life that's why this place works when your guard is down it enough to keep a person on the path untell there will power is stronger.
Telling my wife would have also been unpleasant
Jmckay day 294
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My service is up and down will try to get on here and post. Out camping while checking cattle working on fince and barns. This is where i have a hard time staying quit. Most the time i chewed i did it or I'd feel like crap but out camping and working on stuff outside i always had a dip and i liked it. Day 8 now so there is no nic in my system but my body is not happy. I am just not enjoying things the way i did. My resolve is super high i dont wonna be a slave to this crap i would like to see how i feel next year when i still haven't taken a chew.
Well well well one year later same place doing same thing. Feels good to reflect on this where I came from where I am now. Man I had some really shitty days. Crappy things happen make you have a fuck it attitude dip will make me feel better. My mind is blown on how my addictions masked my ability to cope my anxiety issus. I feel like I'm changing for the better and its not easy to change.Not once in the last year has nicotine been ingested. Last time I was here I was in fog felt like I couldn't enjoy anything. I can't put into words how I feel now but much better. I've now done most things I ever did chewing without chew with the exception I use fake dip daily. I've definitely struggled in the last year. The daily post on a few occasionally saved my quit. I've also been in contact with few people that also save my quit. I now realize more than ever this is a marathon not a sprint. We're supposed to take it one day at a time but I can't help but wonder how will I feel next year at this time. 'oh yeah' 'oh yeah' 'oh yeah' 'oh yeah' Jmckay 372
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My service is up and down will try to get on here and post. Out camping while checking cattle working on fince and barns. This is where i have a hard time staying quit. Most the time i chewed i did it or I'd feel like crap but out camping and working on stuff outside i always had a dip and i liked it. Day 8 now so there is no nic in my system but my body is not happy. I am just not enjoying things the way i did. My resolve is super high i dont wonna be a slave to this crap i would like to see how i feel next year when i still haven't taken a chew.
Well well well one year later same place doing same thing. Feels good to reflect on this where I came from where I am now. Man I had some really shitty days. Crappy things happen make you have a fuck it attitude dip will make me feel better. My mind is blown on how my addictions masked my ability to cope with stress and my anxiety issus. I feel like I'm changing for the better and its not easy to change. Not once in the last year has nicotine been ingested. Last time I was here I was in fog felt like I couldn't enjoy anything. I can't put into words how I feel now but much better. I've now done most things I ever did chewing without chew with the exception I use fake dip daily. I've definitely struggled in the last year. The daily post on a few occasionally saved my quit. I've also been in contact with few people that also save my quit. I now realize more than ever this is a marathon not a sprint. We're supposed to take it one day at a time but I can't help but wonder how will I feel next year at this time. 'oh yeah' 'oh yeah' 'oh yeah' 'oh yeah' Jmckay 372
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My service is up and down will try to get on here and post. Out camping while checking cattle working on fince and barns. This is where i have a hard time staying quit. Most the time i chewed i did it or I'd feel like crap but out camping and working on stuff outside i always had a dip and i liked it. Day 8 now so there is no nic in my system but my body is not happy. I am just not enjoying things the way i did. My resolve is super high i dont wonna be a slave to this crap i would like to see how i feel next year when i still haven't taken a chew.
Well well well one year later same place doing same thing. Feels good to reflect on this where I came from where I am now. Man I had some really shitty days. Crappy things happen make you have a fuck it attitude dip will make me feel better. My mind is blown on how my addictions masked my ability to cope with stress and my anxiety issus. I feel like I'm changing for the better and its not easy to change. Not once in the last year has nicotine been ingested. Last time I was here I was in fog felt like I couldn't enjoy anything. I can't put into words how I feel now but much better. I've now done most things I ever did chewing without chew with the exception I use fake dip daily. I've definitely struggled in the last year. The daily post on a few occasionally saved my quit. I've also been in contact with few people that also save my quit. I now realize more than ever this is a marathon not a sprint. We're supposed to take it one day at a time but I can't help but wonder how will I feel next year at this time. 'oh yeah' 'oh yeah' 'oh yeah' 'oh yeah' Jmckay 372
You feel like you are changing for the better, and you are. That is your motivation, and it will carry you along. Unlike fear of ill health, desire for better health will carry you. Learn as much as you can stomach about addiction and recovery. Find the person you were before you needed nicotine in your system all the time.
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Im much better than i was but have along ways to go. In last couple of months I've had a great deal of stress along with quitting porn. I can say this even being quit for as long as ive been quit i could definitely cave from stress if i let it happen. When the mind is stressed it goes back to the thing that made it happy addiction.
Jmckay 475
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Same guy at work is quiting again but failing just the same. He made it to day 4 without nic and on 5th day he took 2 dips. People always justify only taking one or two dips as doing pretty good quitting. I told him the nic was out of his system now he will have to go 3 more days to get back there. When I see people like this its like there torchering themselves. He'll never quit doing it the way he is doing it.
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Thought I would update this intro with somethings that crossed my mind. Im past 7 months quit now but still an addict still have cravings for it few times a day. I'm using fake dip its deffently a crutch, I don't have the freedom that some have cause the habit of the addiction is still alive. The habit of the addiction has grown weaker over the months but I do reinforce it with fake. Its something I've noticed but I'm not ready to let it go but there will come a time that the habit of chewing will have to go for my quit to be final.
A guy I work with is quitting I told him to go to this site but dont think he will. He only had 5 days quit took a dip don't think he will stay quit. I've noticed something how much you dipped does make a difference on how hard it will be to quit. If you dipped none stop for years the chemical addiction will be stronger than if dipped couple times a day. The habit of the addiction will also be stronger. I've felt my triggers some are stronger than others. When you dipped none stop for years your gonna have triggers none stop. There are consequences to dipping heavy vs light but it's all the same addiction. What I'm saying is if you made your addiction a big part of your life you'll have to make your quit as big of a part. Day after day I keep saying no to the addiction its a house I built and a house only I can destroy and will.