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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: Paul1231 on June 17, 2014, 07:34:00 PM
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My name is Paul and Ive been dipping Skoal straight for about 11 years. I am ready to quit chew for good. My wife and I have our first child on the way this fall and I would rather be around for my family than chew tobacco. Also the recent stuff with Jim Kelly and Tony Gwynn ( two of my childhood heroes) has hit close to home. I want this to be the end of it for me while I understand it is going to suck. Anyway, I just wanted to introduce myself and I appreciate any tips or help that anybody offers.
PS Im already over 24 hours since my last dip which is really exciting! Longest time without a dip in over a decade
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My name is Paul and Ive been dipping Skoal straight for about 11 years. I am ready to quit chew for good. My wife and I have our first child on the way this fall and I would rather be around for my family than chew tobacco. Also the recent stuff with Jim Kelly and Tony Gwynn ( two of my childhood heroes) has hit close to home. I want this to be the end of it for me while I understand it is going to suck. Anyway, I just wanted to introduce myself and I appreciate any tips or help that anybody offers.
PS Im already over 24 hours since my last dip which is really exciting! Longest time without a dip in over a decade
Awesome great to see you here. keep it up man its not an easy thing to do. just remember the big milestone ahead of you now is 72 hours then there will be no nic in your system! that's was hudge for me... just make sure you post roll every day and read read and read otheres posts. and what ever you do don't cave. it will only get better as time goes on. drink lots of water and chew red hot gum and seeds!
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Thanks CoreyF. I am stocked up and seeds and Bubble gum to get through the next couple days. Just trying to get through one at a time.
This may be a dumb question, but what do you mean by post roll?
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The most important motivator for you... I mean THE MOST IMPORTANT?... Quitting for you.
Just you.
Your family won't keep you quit. The horror of your heroes dying from cancer will fade. Your addict mind will minimize every motivation except the one in which YOU call the shots for YOU.
Jump all in bro. Own this.
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The most important motivator for you... I mean THE MOST IMPORTANT?... Quitting for you.
Just you.
Your family won't keep you quit. The horror of your heroes dying from cancer will fade. Your addict mind will minimize every motivation except the one in which YOU call the shots for YOU.
Jump all in bro. Own this.
You will be in the sept group. Go to quit groups and click on sept. And it will show you your quit dates click on the group and there will be a how to post link an that will explain
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The most important motivator for you... I mean THE MOST IMPORTANT?... Quitting for you.
Just you.
Your family won't keep you quit. The horror of your heroes dying from cancer will fade. Your addict mind will minimize every motivation except the one in which YOU call the shots for YOU.
Jump all in bro. Own this.
You will be in the sept group. Go to quit groups and click on sept. And it will show you your quit dates click on the group and there will be a how to post link an that will explain
You will post everyday. What you will post is your name the day you are on and your promise to not use or have any nic on that day. You must always take it one day at a time
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Got it. Posted roll. Thanks
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yup just keep it up. anyone can put in a dip, not everyone can keep it out. just read and look all around on kill the can its a great place
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Got it. Posted roll. Thanks
Welcome!!! This is perhaps the best decision you will ever make! Your life will get better in too many ways to count, but you will have to fight for it. I suggest you read everything on the site. Posting roll is sacred and should be done every day with no exceptions. That is your promise to be nicotine free for the next 24 hours. Get to know people in your quit group, dive in and get involved. I'm 240 days of proof it can be done. PM me if you need anything!
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Good start!
Did you flush, dump, and/or dispose of it all? You don't want that crap anywhere near you... Too easy to cave and have "one more" ...or be like a crack whore digging in out of the trash can.
Get on point and post early in the morning. First thing before you even hit the head. Start the day strong and keep you word. You WILL beat this one day at a time.
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My name is Paul and Ive been dipping Skoal straight for about 11 years. I am ready to quit chew for good. My wife and I have our first child on the way this fall and I would rather be around for my family than chew tobacco. Also the recent stuff with Jim Kelly and Tony Gwynn ( two of my childhood heroes) has hit close to home. I want this to be the end of it for me while I understand it is going to suck. Anyway, I just wanted to introduce myself and I appreciate any tips or help that anybody offers.
PS Im already over 24 hours since my last dip which is really exciting! Longest time without a dip in over a decade
Paul,
The freedom from the can is a great feeling. Day 7 and Im effen stoked at how I feel.
Post roll early and promise to be poison free. The Sultans will have your back.
Cheers on your decision to save your life.
Joe
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Got it. Posted roll. Thanks
Want to bump this back to the front for a minute;...this small, simple task you did today...is awesome. Posting roll is the most important thing you will do in your quit. I don't know you personally, but I know the addict in you. I bet that you've tried quitting before, a number of times, and have failed. We've all failed. There are a number of reasons we failed, but one of the biggest is due to the lack of accountability. When the only person you are accountable to is yourself, the addict, there's no disappointing the addict. The nic bitch wants you to fail. She's betting on it. Now you have accountability. A ton of people in your September quit group are expecting you to keep your word for that day. You are expecting them to keep their word to you as well. This creates accountability, and subsequently a brotherhood.
So, this small task you did today is badass in my eyes. I just wanted you to know the magnitude of that task and realize that random folk like myself are watching your quit. We're rooting for your quit, and we are damn glad to see your name on roll.
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Thank you all...for the encouragement, support, and advice. Very much appreciated and glad to be here.
And spitstickler...to answer your question...yes it was all dumped. There is no chew anywhere near me
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Paul. When you are laying there in the fog, I want you to consider what you pay for when you pay for a can of poison. Let us know what you come up with. Who do you think really profits from our (an addicts) demise?
Mogul
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Mogul...I guess thats something I really never considered when all I really cared about was getting the next wad of shit in my mouth. Its fairly obvious I guess if you look at it objectively that the tobacco companies profit, (we addicts) keep the healthcare system running, and all we do are essentially doing is killing ourselves and giving away our money at the same time. Any additional thoughts on who profits from our demise? I feel like i might be missing some part of the bigger picture....
This is all the more reason that I dont want to look back. Im excited that I am over 48 hours now dip free but I will continue to take it one day at a time and post roll each day as that is the best thing I can do for myself. Im really looking forward to some of the physical hell getting better but I realize this is part of the process and it should get easier from here (hopefully sooner than later). Again, thanks for the support mogul, and having my back.
On a side note, do you or anyone else have a fake chew you would recommend to help with the oral habit part? Ive tried Bacc-Off but that was so nasty i dont think i can use it again. The jack links shredded jerky chew is ok but not very juicy so there is no spitting. My mouth cant really handle any more seeds
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Mogul...I guess thats something I really never considered when all I really cared about was getting the next wad of shit in my mouth. Its fairly obvious I guess if you look at it objectively that the tobacco companies profit, (we addicts) keep the healthcare system running, and all we do are essentially doing is killing ourselves and giving away our money at the same time. Any additional thoughts on who profits from our demise? I feel like i might be missing some part of the bigger picture....
This is all the more reason that I dont want to look back. Im excited that I am over 48 hours now dip free but I will continue to take it one day at a time and post roll each day as that is the best thing I can do for myself. Im really looking forward to some of the physical hell getting better but I realize this is part of the process and it should get easier from here (hopefully sooner than later). Again, thanks for the support mogul, and having my back.
On a side note, do you or anyone else have a fake chew you would recommend to help with the oral habit part? Ive tried Bacc-Off but that was so nasty i dont think i can use it again. The jack links shredded jerky chew is ok but not very juicy so there is no spitting. My mouth cant really handle any more seeds
I used tea tree toothpicks I bought at a health food store, 3 at a time and gnawed at them hard until they broke. Others used jaw breakers I think. Oh, I estimate I spent $30,000 on my addiction in the last 16 - 17 years, just an FYI.
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Mogul...I guess thats something I really never considered when all I really cared about was getting the next wad of shit in my mouth. Its fairly obvious I guess if you look at it objectively that the tobacco companies profit, (we addicts) keep the healthcare system running, and all we do are essentially doing is killing ourselves and giving away our money at the same time. Any additional thoughts on who profits from our demise? I feel like i might be missing some part of the bigger picture....
This is all the more reason that I dont want to look back. Im excited that I am over 48 hours now dip free but I will continue to take it one day at a time and post roll each day as that is the best thing I can do for myself. Im really looking forward to some of the physical hell getting better but I realize this is part of the process and it should get easier from here (hopefully sooner than later). Again, thanks for the support mogul, and having my back.
On a side note, do you or anyone else have a fake chew you would recommend to help with the oral habit part? Ive tried Bacc-Off but that was so nasty i dont think i can use it again. The jack links shredded jerky chew is ok but not very juicy so there is no spitting. My mouth cant really handle any more seeds
I used tea tree toothpicks I bought at a health food store, 3 at a time and gnawed at them hard until they broke. Others used jaw breakers I think. Oh, I estimate I spent $30,000 on my addiction in the last 16 - 17 years, just an FYI.
Never used the fake stuff....chewed a lot of seeds, chewed a lot of sugarless gum, ate a lot of spicy jerky. Also upped my exercise a lot and tackled a lot of projects around the house. It will get better, it makes life so much better to be free. Others can probably direct you on the fake stuff as it has worked very well for some
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Mogul...I guess thats something I really never considered when all I really cared about was getting the next wad of shit in my mouth. Its fairly obvious I guess if you look at it objectively that the tobacco companies profit, (we addicts) keep the healthcare system running, and all we do are essentially doing is killing ourselves and giving away our money at the same time. Any additional thoughts on who profits from our demise? I feel like i might be missing some part of the bigger picture....
This is all the more reason that I dont want to look back. Im excited that I am over 48 hours now dip free but I will continue to take it one day at a time and post roll each day as that is the best thing I can do for myself. Im really looking forward to some of the physical hell getting better but I realize this is part of the process and it should get easier from here (hopefully sooner than later). Again, thanks for the support mogul, and having my back.
On a side note, do you or anyone else have a fake chew you would recommend to help with the oral habit part? Ive tried Bacc-Off but that was so nasty i dont think i can use it again. The jack links shredded jerky chew is ok but not very juicy so there is no spitting. My mouth cant really handle any more seeds
I used tea tree toothpicks I bought at a health food store, 3 at a time and gnawed at them hard until they broke. Others used jaw breakers I think. Oh, I estimate I spent $30,000 on my addiction in the last 16 - 17 years, just an FYI.
Never used the fake stuff....chewed a lot of seeds, chewed a lot of sugarless gum, ate a lot of spicy jerky. Also upped my exercise a lot and tackled a lot of projects around the house. It will get better, it makes life so much better to be free. Others can probably direct you on the fake stuff as it has worked very well for some
Thanks man, ive gotten some good tips on the fake stuff, i ordered a tin of a few different kinds to see what i like. Seeds and gum are doing it for now but my jaw is getting sore from all the bubble gum and mouth getting raw from all the salty seeds
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A few guys suggested i document the struggle here on my intro page so i can look back...i have just surpassed 72 hrs dip free and am chugging a long. I find that im snapping at people a little bit but im hoping they understand. The ones who matter do any way. And fuck the rest of them they are most likely assholes anyway. I probably wouldnt think that under normal circumstances but have some rage in me right now. I havent acted on it, though i did almost beat the shit out of my brother today, but i dont care about that because A) i didnt and B) it would have been justified and C) that particular brother or mine is a weasel, scumbag, fucking drain on my family and society anyway
On a positive note. 72 hrs, going strong, and damn proud to be off dip and in this brotherhood....sorry. Needed to vent
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A few guys suggested i document the struggle here on my intro page so i can look back...i have just surpassed 72 hrs dip free and am chugging a long. I find that im snapping at people a little bit but im hoping they understand. The ones who matter do any way. And fuck the rest of them they are most likely assholes anyway. I probably wouldnt think that under normal circumstances but have some rage in me right now. I havent acted on it, though i did almost beat the shit out of my brother today, but i dont care about that because A) i didnt and B) it would have been justified and C) that particular brother or mine is a weasel, scumbag, fucking drain on my family and society anyway
On a positive note. 72 hrs, going strong, and damn proud to be off dip and in this brotherhood....sorry. Needed to vent
Excellent vent Paul. That is why we are here. We are an outlet for you. Man you hit the nail on the head with your answer about the profits of our demise. I just amazes me that as hard headed as I am I would pay money to someone for their poison which will surely kill me. Addiction is the only way they can do it, because it doesn't make sense.
72 hours is awesome, the poison will soon be clear of your body if it's not already. The mind games WILL begin and the so called Nic Bitch will be wandering around you at all hours trying to trick fuck you. Be very careful and respect her but do not listen. She is a master so you have to take this as you were fighting for your life. This is a battle where the addiction is trying to take away your family, your life, and your well being. Fight with all you have.
Mogul
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Mogul...I guess thats something I really never considered when all I really cared about was getting the next wad of shit in my mouth. Its fairly obvious I guess if you look at it objectively that the tobacco companies profit, (we addicts) keep the healthcare system running, and all we do are essentially doing is killing ourselves and giving away our money at the same time. Any additional thoughts on who profits from our demise? I feel like i might be missing some part of the bigger picture....
This is all the more reason that I dont want to look back. Im excited that I am over 48 hours now dip free but I will continue to take it one day at a time and post roll each day as that is the best thing I can do for myself. Im really looking forward to some of the physical hell getting better but I realize this is part of the process and it should get easier from here (hopefully sooner than later). Again, thanks for the support mogul, and having my back.
On a side note, do you or anyone else have a fake chew you would recommend to help with the oral habit part? Ive tried Bacc-Off but that was so nasty i dont think i can use it again. The jack links shredded jerky chew is ok but not very juicy so there is no spitting. My mouth cant really handle any more seeds
Hey Paul. Gratz on your decision. Watch out for the nic bitch. She's a sneaky one.
In use smokey mountain. You can get one free order of five cans if you pay shipping. I like the peach believe it or not.
Listen to what these guys are telling you. Steak is in my group and he's awesome. Mogul is a baddass who helped me 200 days ago when I dumped mine. You can do this. It's gonna suck but you can do it.
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Im here to go on a rant again, need to vent bad. Up until 5 days ago my favorite thing to do each evening at the end of my day was throw in a fatty and sit down and watch the Yankees game. Im a huge baseball fan, not looking to get into a Yankees argument, but thats my team and I like to wattch them each night. I can no longer do this. It just pisses me off. Half the fucking guys have a massive wad in their lip or cheek and i sit here staring at that shit getting pissed and dont even watch much of the game. Its like self torture. And the part that really frys my ass, and i never thought about before now, is how is that shit not banned on the field? Are you fucking kidding me? Nobody is using an addictive drug on the field in other sports...with the exception of chew in some venues. Nobody smokes in a football game, does cocaine on the ice,takes shots of booze on a field. What a joke. What kind of kickback MLB must get from big tobacco to not ban that shit. Its their life line to get new young ball players, fans, etc addicted to the nicotine cunt. How about honoring Tony Gwynn by getting that shit out of clubhouses and dugouts. He spoke of its dangers and his regrets before passing. I love baseball and i love watching it but its hard right now. Glad to have this community, and some smokey mountain snuff finally. Also thankful the college world series is on now where the shit is banned and i can watch some decent ball without staring at a bunch of dudes with fattys in. Dont worry fellas, i wont cave and watching the game wornt make me cave like a bitch. I just needed to get this off my chest. My wife wouldn't understand if i tried to vent to her about it
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Im here to go on a rant again, need to vent bad. Up until 5 days ago my favorite thing to do each evening at the end of my day was throw in a fatty and sit down and watch the Yankees game. Im a huge baseball fan, not looking to get into a Yankees argument, but thats my team and I like to wattch them each night. I can no longer do this. It just pisses me off. Half the fucking guys have a massive wad in their lip or cheek and i sit here staring at that shit getting pissed and dont even watch much of the game. Its like self torture. And the part that really frys my ass, and i never thought about before now, is how is that shit not banned on the field? Are you fucking kidding me? Nobody is using an addictive drug on the field in other sports...with the exception of chew in some venues. Nobody smokes in a football game, does cocaine on the ice,takes shots of booze on a field. What a joke. What kind of kickback MLB must get from big tobacco to not ban that shit. Its their life line to get new young ball players, fans, etc addicted to the nicotine cunt. How about honoring Tony Gwynn by getting that shit out of clubhouses and dugouts. He spoke of its dangers and his regrets before passing. I love baseball and i love watching it but its hard right now. Glad to have this community, and some smokey mountain snuff finally. Also thankful the college world series is on now where the shit is banned and i can watch some decent ball without staring at a bunch of dudes with fattys in. Dont worry fellas, i wont cave and watching the game wornt make me cave like a bitch. I just needed to get this off my chest. My wife wouldn't understand if i tried to vent to her about it
100% agree. It is a shame. Tony wasn't the first MLB player to fall victim and he won't be the last.
But you know what... You don't have to fear going to the dentist again, because you aren't purposefully giving yourself cancer. You are honoring a great man by keeping your word every day.
Follow the principles of this site. They will change your life in more ways than you realize.
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Im here to go on a rant again, need to vent bad. Up until 5 days ago my favorite thing to do each evening at the end of my day was throw in a fatty and sit down and watch the Yankees game. Im a huge baseball fan, not looking to get into a Yankees argument, but thats my team and I like to wattch them each night. I can no longer do this. It just pisses me off. Half the fucking guys have a massive wad in their lip or cheek and i sit here staring at that shit getting pissed and dont even watch much of the game. Its like self torture. And the part that really frys my ass, and i never thought about before now, is how is that shit not banned on the field? Are you fucking kidding me? Nobody is using an addictive drug on the field in other sports...with the exception of chew in some venues. Nobody smokes in a football game, does cocaine on the ice,takes shots of booze on a field. What a joke. What kind of kickback MLB must get from big tobacco to not ban that shit. Its their life line to get new young ball players, fans, etc addicted to the nicotine cunt. How about honoring Tony Gwynn by getting that shit out of clubhouses and dugouts. He spoke of its dangers and his regrets before passing. I love baseball and i love watching it but its hard right now. Glad to have this community, and some smokey mountain snuff finally. Also thankful the college world series is on now where the shit is banned and i can watch some decent ball without staring at a bunch of dudes with fattys in. Dont worry fellas, i wont cave and watching the game wornt make me cave like a bitch. I just needed to get this off my chest. My wife wouldn't understand if i tried to vent to her about it
100% agree. It is a shame. Tony wasn't the first MLB player to fall victim and he won't be the last.
But you know what... You don't have to fear going to the dentist again, because you aren't purposefully giving yourself cancer. You are honoring a great man by keeping your word every day.
Follow the principles of this site. They will change your life in more ways than you realize.
Great post. I totally agree. Tobacco should be illegal at this point. It is the leading cause of preventable death and it is more addictive than crack.
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While I despise your choice of team (M's fan here), I sincerely congratulate you for being able to see this stuff happen in "real life" now. Chances are you never noticed those fatties before, and even if you did, you looked at them and you said "wow at least I'm not addicted like those knuckleheads." You were that addicted. I was that addicted. We all were. Here's the thing...a lot more of this shit goes on than we (the public know about). I know some ex-pro football players that dipped WHILST playing. They claimed it gave them the much needed "boost of energy". All it gave them was a shorter playing career and a much higher chance for oral cancer. Think they'd take it back now for the chance to play "clean." 100% of them would.
Don't glamorize it in your head. It sucks. To put it in terms that we both (M's and Yanks fans) understand: I've never seen Robinson Cano have a pinch. Guess who leads the A.L. in hitting? It doesn't do shit for your performance bro. Don't romanticize it, that's what the NB wants you to do. She sucks every last drop of humanity and money right out of you, and up until a few days ago, you were happy to allow her to do it. Fuck her and fuck chew. You've got this man and you don't need some carcinogenic poison to live. QLF with you today.
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First let me say I will not cave and am not even thinking about it, but holy shit I am a miserable motherfucker today. The last two days before today I was in a way better mood than this. I was still irritable but today is bad. I want to beat that shit out of everything and everyone...so i came here to rant instead and am going for a run as soon as i finish typing this. Ive been pissed since I woke up and have a short fuse. As soon as I woke up a threw on a t shirt on my way to take a piss. I put in on inside out in my half awake state and got pissed. Tried to turn it around without taking it off and my arm got stuck at which point i became enraged and ripped the fucking things offf my body like i was hulk hogan himself. Then i realized it was a brand new awesome tshirt i just got from cabelas and became even more pissed off. I dont need to go into detail but the rest of the day has been more of the same shit. Basically im just venting...no need to worry about my quit. I am fucking enraged at the nic bitch too...im out, going for a run...then maybe a swim to burn off some rage
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First let me say I will not cave and am not even thinking about it, but holy shit I am a miserable motherfucker today. The last two days before today I was in a way better mood than this. I was still irritable but today is bad. I want to beat that shit out of everything and everyone...so i came here to rant instead and am going for a run as soon as i finish typing this. Ive been pissed since I woke up and have a short fuse. As soon as I woke up a threw on a t shirt on my way to take a piss. I put in on inside out in my half awake state and got pissed. Tried to turn it around without taking it off and my arm got stuck at which point i became enraged and ripped the fucking things offf my body like i was hulk hogan himself. Then i realized it was a brand new awesome tshirt i just got from cabelas and became even more pissed off. I dont need to go into detail but the rest of the day has been more of the same shit. Basically im just venting...no need to worry about my quit. I am fucking enraged at the nic bitch too...im out, going for a run...then maybe a swim to burn off some rage
Keep directing it at us at the NB Paul. Just remember, that this is just your "dues" from willingly be her slave for so long. Proud as hell to be quit with you today.
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Paul, you are doing it right. Rage and vent right here at KTC. go to chat if you can and vent there too. Running, weight lifting any exercise is awesome to help the quit. Feel positive about yourself, your image, and this day shall too pass. Or do like me and stand naked in the room and flip off, bounce my balls, bend over and moon, and any other gesture you wish at the tobacco industry. Fuck em.
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Paul, you are doing it right. Rage and vent right here at KTC. go to chat if you can and vent there too. Running, weight lifting any exercise is awesome to help the quit. Feel positive about yourself, your image, and this day shall too pass. Or do like me and stand naked in the room and flip off, bounce my balls, bend over and moon, and any other gesture you wish at the tobacco industry. Fuck em.
hahaha thanks again Mogul...You help my quit every day bro
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Need some advice...im a little freaked out about something im experiencing and wondering if anyone has dealt with this themselves. First let me say i am planning on a visit to the dentist in a month or so once things kind of return to normal in my mouth. The things im wondering about though are as follows
1) ive been using smokey mountain snuff from time to time to help with cravings when they come up and after taking it out my lip has that wrinkled leathery look to it just as you would get with a real dip from time to time. Is this normal? Anyone elsr had this?
2). My gums were receded pretty significantly before i quit and have grown back little by little to almost normal at times but then when i use the sms it recedes them again just like real dip would. Same questions...is it normal? Anyone been through this?
Maybe i am a little patanoid and looking in my mouth a bit too much but none the less im a little freaked out, nothing major. Just wamt to throw it out there and get some feedback.
Quit is strong. Going awesome thanks you guys and your support. QLF EDD
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12 days in and still hate the world most of the time. I wouldnt say Im really missing the dip or even really have many craves. As long as I dont drink too much the craves havent been that bad. The fucking irritability is at an all time high still. I become so enraged at such stupid shit that i intentionally dont leave the house unless i absolutely have to because i dont want to beat the hell out of someone. On top of that im still worried about the shit from my last post and having a fucking sore throat all the time. When will this shit get better?
And while im bitching about stuff....i dont know anything about the drama going on in here and honestly i dont give a fuck, but what i do know is that almost my entire Vet support system with exception of wastepanel (and some other bad asses in chat) has been run out of here. Dont want to get involved in the politics but WTF? Lucky for me the Sultans are a badass group and we have a pretty tight brotherhood in there
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12 days in and still hate the world most of the time. I wouldnt say Im really missing the dip or even really have many craves. As long as I dont drink too much the craves havent been that bad. The fucking irritability is at an all time high still. I become so enraged at such stupid shit that i intentionally dont leave the house unless i absolutely have to because i dont want to beat the hell out of someone. On top of that im still worried about the shit from my last post and having a fucking sore throat all the time. When will this shit get better?
And while im bitching about stuff....i dont know anything about the drama going on in here and honestly i dont give a fuck, but what i do know is that almost my entire Vet support system with exception of wastepanel (and some other bad asses in chat) has been run out of here. Dont want to get involved in the politics but WTF? Lucky for me the Sultans are a badass group and we have a pretty tight brotherhood in there
guzzle water until you can't walk past a john w/o pissing and add a 'sweat workout' program to rid your body of toxins.
F the drama and fill the 'holes' in your support tree -
pm me if you want mine but you will have to accept the daily post challenge in the dreaded Glass House of April 12
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12 days in and still hate the world most of the time. I wouldnt say Im really missing the dip or even really have many craves. As long as I dont drink too much the craves havent been that bad. The fucking irritability is at an all time high still. I become so enraged at such stupid shit that i intentionally dont leave the house unless i absolutely have to because i dont want to beat the hell out of someone. On top of that im still worried about the shit from my last post and having a fucking sore throat all the time. When will this shit get better?
And while im bitching about stuff....i dont know anything about the drama going on in here and honestly i dont give a fuck, but what i do know is that almost my entire Vet support system with exception of wastepanel (and some other bad asses in chat) has been run out of here. Dont want to get involved in the politics but WTF? Lucky for me the Sultans are a badass group and we have a pretty tight brotherhood in there
Dude, 12 days is badass. Continue to fucking rock it.
Your body is going through a lot of changes. You were ruining your mouth every day by cutting up your lip and sucking on that poison. It is healing now, and it's a process. The PH in your mouth is changing, and that is causing a ton of things to correct. Sores may have already formed and gone away, and your tongue may start to return to its normal color again. All this is happening right above your throat. The bad part is that it sucks. The good news is that it is temporary and normal. Drink tons of water still, and just do your best to stay quit today. Anything less than quit is unacceptable.
Many of us (myself included) have found that we "self medicated" with the stuff. I was a raging mess that went from anger to tears to laid back in the blink of an eye. This is something that you should deal with. No longer are you regulating chemicals in your body via poisonous drugs. No. You're going to need an outlet. I took up running (all 270 pounds of me). I ran the shit out of the roads here, had some veins in my leg explode, surgery, and ended up running a marathon last year. That was my outlet.
As for the drama...fuck it. You can control one thing and one thing alone in this world: Your actions. The people leaving choose to leave. I can't turn my back on an organization that gave me 3 years of freedom today. This site is a treasure trove of knowledge with thousands of more people posting regularly still. Do I miss them? Yup. But I can't stop them. Ultimately, my enemy is nicotine.
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12 days in and still hate the world most of the time. I wouldnt say Im really missing the dip or even really have many craves. As long as I dont drink too much the craves havent been that bad. The fucking irritability is at an all time high still. I become so enraged at such stupid shit that i intentionally dont leave the house unless i absolutely have to because i dont want to beat the hell out of someone. On top of that im still worried about the shit from my last post and having a fucking sore throat all the time. When will this shit get better?
And while im bitching about stuff....i dont know anything about the drama going on in here and honestly i dont give a fuck, but what i do know is that almost my entire Vet support system with exception of wastepanel (and some other bad asses in chat) has been run out of here. Dont want to get involved in the politics but WTF? Lucky for me the Sultans are a badass group and we have a pretty tight brotherhood in there
Dude, 12 days is badass. Continue to fucking rock it.
Your body is going through a lot of changes. You were ruining your mouth every day by cutting up your lip and sucking on that poison. It is healing now, and it's a process. The PH in your mouth is changing, and that is causing a ton of things to correct. Sores may have already formed and gone away, and your tongue may start to return to its normal color again. All this is happening right above your throat. The bad part is that it sucks. The good news is that it is temporary and normal. Drink tons of water still, and just do your best to stay quit today. Anything less than quit is unacceptable.
Many of us (myself included) have found that we "self medicated" with the stuff. I was a raging mess that went from anger to tears to laid back in the blink of an eye. This is something that you should deal with. No longer are you regulating chemicals in your body via poisonous drugs. No. You're going to need an outlet. I took up running (all 270 pounds of me). I ran the shit out of the roads here, had some veins in my leg explode, surgery, and ended up running a marathon last year. That was my outlet.
As for the drama...fuck it. You can control one thing and one thing alone in this world: Your actions. The people leaving choose to leave. I can't turn my back on an organization that gave me 3 years of freedom today. This site is a treasure trove of knowledge with thousands of more people posting regularly still. Do I miss them? Yup. But I can't stop them. Ultimately, my enemy is nicotine.
Thanks man. And a huge congrats to you on hitting the three year mark! Now that is fucken badass
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Paul,
Just a note of encouragement on day 15....I like the days that end in 0's and 5's....gives you a sense of progress. Congrats and celebrate the small victories....they add up into BIG small victories.
Proud to quit with you brother...E.D.D.
Like a Sultan!
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Paul,
Just a note of encouragement on day 15....I like the days that end in 0's and 5's....gives you a sense of progress. Congrats and celebrate the small victories....they add up into BIG small victories.
Proud to quit with you brother...E.D.D.
Like a Sultan!
just rock it!
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Paul,
Just a note of encouragement on day 15....I like the days that end in 0's and 5's....gives you a sense of progress. Congrats and celebrate the small victories....they add up into BIG small victories.
Proud to quit with you brother...E.D.D.
Like a Sultan!
just rock it!
Thanks guys. Finally starting to feel pretty damn good.
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Paul, you help me quit brother. Keep adding the plus ones.
There is no reason to quit quitting.
Mogul
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Thanks again for all the support here fellas...
Day 17 and feeling fucking great. A lot of the rage and fog are gone and I am starting to feel pretty normal...and FREE. However, I promise to myself and all of you that I WILL NOT get complacent in my quit just because I am feeling more myself. I have read many posts, articles, etc and received plenty of advice that people set themselves up for a fail when they feel better and get a little cocky/complacent.
Not here... 'Finger' fuck you nic bitch
QLF EDD
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Thanks again for all the support here fellas...
Day 17 and feeling fucking great. A lot of the rage and fog are gone and I am starting to feel pretty normal...and FREE. However, I promise to myself and all of you that I WILL NOT get complacent in my quit just because I am feeling more myself. I have read many posts, articles, etc and received plenty of advice that people set themselves up for a fail when they feel better and get a little cocky/complacent.
Not here... 'Finger' fuck you nic bitch
QLF EDD
Sounds like a quitter to me! There will be some rough days ahead Paul, but the good days will quickly outnumber the bad days! Proud to be quit with you today.
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Paul. I originally posted this in vbe931's intro. He reached HOF and I wanted to read it again so I put it in your intro. I hope that is ok.
Hey bro, let's be calm and rational for 35 seconds. You are thinking that just one pinch can solve your problems. Your gums will not hurt, your tongue won't feel like a filing rod, and your mind will return to normal. That is the Nic Bitch telling you all of that. That is how "they" keep you coming back for more. That is how they line their wallets, with your addiction and ultimately your death. See, this is nothing more than the best money scam going. Just imagine if you could have a 10 million dollar mansion and have someone else pay for it. Well, "they" figured out how to do that. Provide a product that "addicted you" to it and paid off lawmakers to keep it legal. Tax the shit out of it and everybody wins. Except for the addict, you can die. There will be plenty more behind you, you're not special. So, every time you step into that store and throw a five on the counter, just remember you are agreeing to be taxed, proliferated and murdered, all with your money and your blessing. You "OK" this when you lay down your cash.
I want you to suppose for a minute that I walk up to you. Look you in the eye and tell you I'm going to kill you, slowly. I'm going to make you spend thousands of dollars in doctor and hospital bills, I'm going to orphan your kids, make your spouse go at life alone or find another mate. I'm going to take your families money and feed my family with it, also, junior wants a convertible to drive to Harvard. I need some new addicts to pay for that car and his education, you top the list. I need your money addict.
How would you feel about me? Would you do business with me? Would you buy my product? Would you want to kill me? Would you at least stand up for yourself and your family?
Well, I say Fuck Them, you're not taking my money, much less my life without getting the fight of your life. In fact I would rather die on my own accord than let you kill me. It's me or you motherfucker, and I'm not going to lose. All I have to do is Not Dip and you lose. That's it. You are not getting another penny from me you son of a bitch. Not a fucking penny. You will not make me withdraw, you will not make me crave, you will never make me kneel at your alter ever again. I'm in control, not you. I'm pissed, and I'm armed with quit. Fuck you and heed warning I'm out to do to you what you threatened to do to my children. Your on notice tobacco CEO. I'm fucking quit and I will never again let you treat me like a whore.
That might have taken more than 35 seconds, sorry. Hope you get where I'm coming from.
Mogul
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Paul. I originally posted this in vbe931's intro. He reached HOF and I wanted to read it again so I put it in your intro. I hope that is ok.
Hey bro, let's be calm and rational for 35 seconds. You are thinking that just one pinch can solve your problems. Your gums will not hurt, your tongue won't feel like a filing rod, and your mind will return to normal. That is the Nic Bitch telling you all of that. That is how "they" keep you coming back for more. That is how they line their wallets, with your addiction and ultimately your death. See, this is nothing more than the best money scam going. Just imagine if you could have a 10 million dollar mansion and have someone else pay for it. Well, "they" figured out how to do that. Provide a product that "addicted you" to it and paid off lawmakers to keep it legal. Tax the shit out of it and everybody wins. Except for the addict, you can die. There will be plenty more behind you, you're not special. So, every time you step into that store and throw a five on the counter, just remember you are agreeing to be taxed, proliferated and murdered, all with your money and your blessing. You "OK" this when you lay down your cash.
I want you to suppose for a minute that I walk up to you. Look you in the eye and tell you I'm going to kill you, slowly. I'm going to make you spend thousands of dollars in doctor and hospital bills, I'm going to orphan your kids, make your spouse go at life alone or find another mate. I'm going to take your families money and feed my family with it, also, junior wants a convertible to drive to Harvard. I need some new addicts to pay for that car and his education, you top the list. I need your money addict.
How would you feel about me? Would you do business with me? Would you buy my product? Would you want to kill me? Would you at least stand up for yourself and your family?
Well, I say Fuck Them, you're not taking my money, much less my life without getting the fight of your life. In fact I would rather die on my own accord than let you kill me. It's me or you motherfucker, and I'm not going to lose. All I have to do is Not Dip and you lose. That's it. You are not getting another penny from me you son of a bitch. Not a fucking penny. You will not make me withdraw, you will not make me crave, you will never make me kneel at your alter ever again. I'm in control, not you. I'm pissed, and I'm armed with quit. Fuck you and heed warning I'm out to do to you what you threatened to do to my children. Your on notice tobacco CEO. I'm fucking quit and I will never again let you treat me like a whore.
That might have taken more than 35 seconds, sorry. Hope you get where I'm coming from.
Mogul
Mogul, i actually read this on VBE's intro yesterday. I cant tell you how much this post strengthened my quit. I am glad you posted it in here. I will surely be referreing back to it from time to time. This is powerful stuff right here. If you dont mind I might post this in my group at some point
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Honestly, this ^^^^ is maybe the single most important post in my quit.
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It is yours to do as you please. Hopefully others will be helped by it too.
Mogul
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Mogul has always said things that just click. He says it and I get it. I understand. I have him quoted in my signature. My favorite Mogulism of all time.
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Mogul has always said things that just click. He says it and I get it. I understand. I have him quoted in my signature. My favorite Mogulism of all time.
I think that's one of the things I love about this place. We all feel the same way, and people like Mogul, Paul, and you capture that raw emotion and frame it for others.
Keep up the good work gentlemen, and great post Mogul.
Paul...glad you're feeling back to normal. When times are good, practice for the bad. When times are bad...lean on what you've learned. You're doing this.
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Thanks guys. 23 days in. Never thought i would see the day. I appreciate all the help and support along the way. I cant tell you how good I feel right now but I guess I dont have to... You all have experienced it too. Continuing to quit ODAAT. Proud to be here with all the other Badass quitters
Funny i used to think dipping was badass, now i realize it takes a real fucking badass to quit and tell the Nic bitch to go fuck herself EDD
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Paul, if you get the chance go read EC's Dad's intro Page 8 and see what he had to say. All about "it will suck til it doesn't". Those are some powerful, hopeful, and true words. It may help you realize where you are headed. Awesome job to be 25 days. 1/4 way there. Please watch the sneaky bitch, she will pull a fast one around day 28 and try to catch you from the backside.
Mogul
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Paul, good to see you out reading intros etc. that is what it takes to stay quit. I admire your tenacity and ability to keep focused. Please add to your intro and let us know what is going on. What are you experiencing? etc. this helps us, new quitters, and you. keep us up to date through HOF.
Mogul
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Just an update...29 days in. I feel really good most of the time. The cravings come and go from time to time but i have the tools and knowledge to deal with them. I get so pissed at how much of my life i spent sucking on that poison and how much money i wasted. Holy shit have i come to fucking hate that shit. I hate it more than i have ever hated anything in my life.
The one thing I still experience is a sore throat which in turn gives me anxiety because of course right away i think its throat cancer. It is a strange sore throat though that there is no real logical explanation for i domt think. My wife says maybe from seasonal allergies or from flonase i was using but i stopped using that over a week ago and still get a sore throat in one specific spot. Maybe the anxiety that comes with it is justified. I have finally made a dentist appt and it is the 29th of July. Although i am quite honestly scared shitless about it, i cant wait for it to get here. All i can do now is do my part and not poison myself and hope and pray for the best. I truly think everything is fine and i am probably just experiencing some residual symptoms, but when that sore throat goes...and then comes back it real scares the shit out of me all over again.
Just wanted to throw out an update. Proud to quit with all of you and thanks again for all the support
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Just an update...29 days in. I feel really good most of the time. The cravings come and go from time to time but i have the tools and knowledge to deal with them. I get so pissed at how much of my life i spent sucking on that poison and how much money i wasted. Holy shit have i come to fucking hate that shit. I hate it more than i have ever hated anything in my life.
The one thing I still experience is a sore throat which in turn gives me anxiety because of course right away i think its throat cancer. It is a strange sore throat though that there is no real logical explanation for i domt think. My wife says maybe from seasonal allergies or from flonase i was using but i stopped using that over a week ago and still get a sore throat in one specific spot. Maybe the anxiety that comes with it is justified. I have finally made a dentist appt and it is the 29th of July. Although i am quite honestly scared shitless about it, i cant wait for it to get here. All i can do now is do my part and not poison myself and hope and pray for the best. I truly think everything is fine and i am probably just experiencing some residual symptoms, but when that sore throat goes...and then comes back it real scares the shit out of me all over again.
Just wanted to throw out an update. Proud to quit with all of you and thanks again for all the support
Anyone else experienced the sore throat like I am describing for this long? Im on day 29 now. Wtf? Im having some serious anxiety about this right now.
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Hey Paul, I can speak from my experience and a sore throat is very common the first 60 days or so.
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Had my dentist appointment today, which i was pretty nervous about. It went really well and the Doc said no sign of anything to worry about but continue to monitor. What a huge relief and a weight off my shoulders. He was very supportive of my quitting dip and I feel great having made the appointment and gone to it. Its a bit nerve racking before hand but I feel great after. It is a great feeling afterwards once you come clean and have him check everything out real thoroughly and walk out the door with a clean bill of health and a huge smile.
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Had my dentist appointment today, which i was pretty nervous about. It went really well and the Doc said no sign of anything to worry about but continue to monitor. What a huge relief and a weight off my shoulders. He was very supportive of my quitting dip and I feel great having made the appointment and gone to it. Its a bit nerve racking before hand but I feel great after. It is a great feeling afterwards once you come clean and have him check everything out real thoroughly and walk out the door with a clean bill of health and a huge smile.
Yes that is a very relieving feeling knowing that you came clean and all with the dentist. Even better is knowing that they didn't give bad news at the time.
I am proud for you today.
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Big congrats on the HOF today ... you are no where near done, nor are you cured! Enjoy the day, then refocus your energies. Quit like fuck with ya!
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Big congrats on the HOF today ... you are no where near done, nor are you cured! Enjoy the day, then refocus your energies. Quit like fuck with ya!
Thanks Smeds...appreciate it bro! Proud to be quitting with you
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101. Congrats dad. You officially now are a badass quitter. Keep posting roll because that 100 days is not a magic number. I have enjoyed posting with you Paul.
Chris
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101. Congrats dad. You officially now are a badass quitter. Keep posting roll because that 100 days is not a magic number. I have enjoyed posting with you Paul.
Chris
Thanks man. I cannot say enough how your support and advice helped me along the way. Glad to quit with you EDD