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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: jakeryan2410 on August 23, 2012, 08:58:00 PM
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not sure if i'm in the right spot. i need to try and vent somewhere. really cracking up. quit my 2 to 2.5 can a day habit. man i lived with this shit in my mouth. i never thought withdrawal would be this bad.
i picked up chew a about 4 years ago when i quit smoking. really had no problem there. quitting chew for me is 100 times harder.
anyone else notice this as well? damn!!!! i haven't slept, in the last 3 days where i'm 100% nicotine free, no patch or gum, i haven't slept at all.
I need sleep tonight, not much I can do. I quit for me. because i want to be quit. not for any other reason. I'm deep enough in that i believe I will never chew again, but I want some relief as well.
I quit last monday but used the patch 21mg for 7 straight days and the gum on top of that. I ddroped both of those this monday, at 8pm, 73 hours with no nicotine in my system.
biggest problem is sore back and mucles from not sleeping for a week. feel like i got hit by a truck, anyone to relate their story to mine? i need some kind of support or to talk to someone who understands..
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not sure if i'm in the right spot. i need to try and vent somewhere. really cracking up. quit my 2 to 2.5 can a day habit. man i lived with this shit in my mouth. i never thought withdrawal would be this bad.
i picked up chew a about 4 years ago when i quit smoking. really had no problem there. quitting chew for me is 100 times harder.
anyone else notice this as well? damn!!!! i haven't slept, in the last 3 days where i'm 100% nicotine free, no patch or gum, i haven't slept at all.
I need sleep tonight, not much I can do. I quit for me. because i want to be quit. not for any other reason. I'm deep enough in that i believe I will never chew again, but I want some relief as well.
I quit last monday but used the patch 21mg for 7 straight days and the gum on top of that. I ddroped both of those this monday, at 8pm, 73 hours with no nicotine in my system.
biggest problem is sore back and mucles from not sleeping for a week. feel like i got hit by a truck, anyone to relate their story to mine? i need some kind of support or to talk to someone who understands..
I understand.
Sucks balls at first.
The prize is freedom.
You can't even imagine how great things will be when you are quit.
You post roll yet?
You want this?
Show me!
I'm right here right now. I will help you.
Your move.
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check your inbox - post roll and quit - read the welcome center (above in pink) ask for help if you don't get anything.
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fuck it. i'll talk to myself. I dont even know what I want from this place. maybe just to talk to a few people who may be as miserable as me.
some things, anxiety. I never had a problem with it, all of a sudden I'm a nervous wreck. what the F... I didn't even put the nicotine withdrawal and this anxiety together. I'm pretty sure its from that though.
Shocker it felt like someone was on my chest, couldn't breathe. I thought i was having a heart attack, before I started reading. I think is the nicotine withdrawal.
lets say I chew 3 cans a day.. how many smokes would that be like. because i used to smoke like 10-15 cigs a day for about 10 years. quit that. waited a few weeks no real problem after 2 days. and started chewing. 4 maybe 5 years ago.
got worse and worse, finally i said fuck that i'm done with this shit. I do love it. but now i'm depressed as shit. over reacting to everything. yelling at people. I swear I'm just looking for a reason to start a fight. totally out of character for me.
Realistically. how long am I looking at here? another week? as I said before. I haven't had a chew in 10 days. but I had heavy doses of nicotine from the patch and gum for 7 days. then the last 3, 73 or 74 hours im nicotine free. i used that replacement shit for a week to try and get some relief.
I was edgy and irritated, but i slept at least. last 3 nights i got a total of maybe 4 hours total of sleep.
and that is after ambien, and xanax pills.
eihter way i'm not on anything the last 2. totally want to suffer, get what i'm owed. so I never forget this and never have to deal with it again. if it was easy i'd just start up again, but I know i wont now not after this shit.
but seriously how long? how long before I can sleep at least 5 hours a night?
any thoughts?
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I was pretty good at about 10 days - my wife tells me I was a dick but I wasn't so bad that she left me!! could be more or less for you - read - go to live chat read - drink a fuck ton of water, stay busy - POST ROLL
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awesome. so that roll post is a promise to stay nicotine free for the day. Something I can't promise today. I will NOT be chewing, but i'm debating having a piece of the gum. I dont want to sound like a cunt, but if I dont sleep tonight people are going to start thinking im a crack addict or something, my eyes are BLOODSHOT red, like a vampire or something.
it looks like every blood vessel in the whites of my eyes is burst. pretty nuts. i should upload a picture or something.
christ. so 10 days was the magic number for you? thats the kind of info i'm looking for. I'm only on day 3. I swear if I could just get a little sleep i'd feel so much better. How about this, I kept a can of chew around in case. like i had a panic attack thinking it was all gone.
I just flushed it. I wont post roll, until I'm sure i wont have the chewing gum but I just physically flushed a half can of chew. believe it or not, 1 dip for me was half a can almost, so that wasn't something to be taken lightly for me.
I did it though!
mich. how much did you chew / day?
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fuck it. i'll talk to myself.
Nope. You're not alone.
anxiety. I never had a problem with it, all of a sudden I'm a nervous wreck.
This is normal. It will pass.
Shocker it felt like someone was on my chest, couldn't breathe.
Been there.
I do love it.
No. You don't. Trust me.
but now i'm depressed as shit.
That's normal, for now.
over reacting to everything. yelling at people. I swear I'm just looking for a reason to start a fight. totally out of character for me.
Normal. Normal. Normal. It will pass.
Realistically. how long am I looking at here?
Today. That's all. Give your word today. keep it. What more do you want? There is no miracle cure. There is freedom. And it's worth fighting for.
i used that replacement shit for a week to try and get some relief.
If you desire relief, quit poisoning yourself.
I was edgy and irritated, but i slept at least. last 3 nights i got a total of maybe 4 hours total of sleep.
There is always a price to pay. It is worth it.
but seriously how long? how long before I can sleep at least 5 hours a night?
It is different for each individual.
any thoughts?
Yep. Quit.
Whatever it takes. If your not willing to do whatever it takes...
There is a way out.
Balls in your court.
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but i'm debating having a piece of the gum. I dont want to sound like a cunt, but if I dont sleep tonight people are going to start thinking im a crack addict or something, my eyes are BLOODSHOT red, like a vampire or something.
Not an option.
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I kept a can of chew around in case. like i had a panic attack thinking it was all gone.
Time to go "all in"
The alternative is failure.
Burn your damn boat man. We will catch you.
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I wont post roll, until I'm sure i wont have the chewing gum but I just physically flushed a half can of chew.
Excuses suck.
Post roll.
Keep your word.
Simple - yes.
Easy - no
Not at first.
I can smell your fear and I understand it. I feared as well. feared like you. I overcame my fear here. With the help of these fine quitters.
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thats a good point. all in is where i need to be.
I'm totally digging this forum. sounds like you all went through it already.
I'm prepared for everything. drinking a TON of water. oh and i'm using sun flower seeds to help with the mouth craves... helping alot.
only thing i wasn't prepared for was sleep deprivation for this long.
who else was hurting physically. like sore back, sore hips. sore joints. and shit? not sure if its from lack of sleep and or nicotine withdrawal making me feel physically sick.
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who else was hurting physically. like sore back, sore hips. sore joints. and shit? not sure if its from lack of sleep and or nicotine withdrawal making me feel physically sick.
This is a distraction.
Period.
Embrace it.
You can do this.
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Jake, it sucks serious ass what we are ALL going through. You are not alone and those are the words you need to keep telling yourself, keep reading here, there is a lot of information to absorb. You have come to the right place if you are serious about quitting that shit. It does get better, and I say that after only 13 days quit after stuffing my lip for 34 years.
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Listen to Ready man - a real vet - I'm just a sorry ass 35 day quitter - listen and drink the kool aid - I was using at least a can a day - most days a can and a half - 18 + years - if my sorry ass can make 35 days with the help of these vets and my quit group you're gonna kick some real ass - listen to those who have been where you want to be. Don't keep putting off quitting if you want to quit - if you want it fuckin quit if you don't want to quit go away and come back here when you want to quit. that's my .02
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PS, listen to these guys. Post roll and make that promise
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tried to do roll call. I'm not sure if I did it right. I read the instructions. but I'm having a hard time concentrating. someone tell me yay or ney if i did it right.
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I see your name at the very bottom of your post. If I thought I could walk you through it I would but I would probably mess it up worse. I am sure a veteran will chime in here soon. Welcome to November! And you better post up tomorrow right away! Check your inbox. Mike
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tried to do roll call. I'm not sure if I did it right. I read the instructions. but I'm having a hard time concentrating. someone tell me yay or ney if i did it right.
'clap'
I accept your word of Honor.
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tried to do roll call. I'm not sure if I did it right. I read the instructions. but I'm having a hard time concentrating. someone tell me yay or ney if i did it right.
First of all, try to relax. Take a deep breath. You are on a wild ride right now and the adrenaline is going at 1000 miles an hour. All you are going through is normal.
The first 72 hours is the nicotene withdrawal symptoms, the rest from here on out is the mind games it will play on you, the little pains, anxiety.
As said this is all normal. You need to remember that you are strong, before you started you lived without the nicotene for how many years? So it can be done, you just need to believe in yourself, and let your mind and body re-wire itself now in the absence of the poison.
Here is a link to the video for posting roll, http://www.killthecan.org/roll/ (http://www.killthecan.org/roll/)
Your name is there for today, but take a look, relax, review and try this again tommorrow. There is no issue for a newbie to mess up roll as we will learn, There is issue with someone who is not serious about his quit.
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I haven't seen it but it's good - who cares if you fuck it up the first time or two - keep posting roll - get it right - read the directions at the welcome center - keep posting roll and stay quit= I quit with you today- get to know the guys in November - help them and they will help you- go to live chat , rage at everyone here- pm anyone to trade phone numbers - text, call - do whatever you have to to not put that shit in your systerm!! glad you decided to quit with us
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appreciate all the words of advice. it is a wild ride. I'm a god damn computer engineer and I can't follow directions to a web site right now. just goes to show you how rough it can be. i'm not exaggerating when i say I can't concentrate for more than 2 seconds without wanting to smash my keyboard
I'm trying so hard to relax. I just want to sit and watch tv and enjoy myself. big problem is i always had a fat chew in while i watched tv. getting used to that is going to take some time. Mentally I am prepared to make these changes. I chose to.
I need to get through this first hump. I will post roll again. I am not going for the nicorette gum tonight. and i'm proud of myself beause i was planning to. I'm going to continue nicotine free.
god damn i want to smash something though
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throw the gum away, smash something if you need to - you can buy a new keyboard buy you cant buy a quit for any money!
(cheaper to relax though!!)
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i'm not exaggerating when i say I can't concentrate for more than 2 seconds without wanting to smash my keyboard
I believe you 100%.
I was you.
I am free now. You can be too.
I'm going to continue nicotine free.
Well, quite frankly, you have no choice at this point. You see, you have given your word to me. And a thousand others that you will not use nicotine in any way, shape or form today.
Welcome brother.
I look forward to seeing the day when you post in someones introduction section letting them know that they too can do this. And that all of the pain and suffering is worth it.
And you will be speaking the truth, from experience.
It is truly a life enriching experiencing to rid yourself of the chains.
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i'm not exaggerating when i say I can't concentrate for more than 2 seconds without wanting to smash my keyboard
I believe you 100%.
I was you.
I am free now. You can be too.
I'm going to continue nicotine free.
Well, quite frankly, you have no choice at this point. You see, you have given your word to me. And a thousand others that you will not use nicotine in any way, shape or form today.
Welcome brother.
I look forward to seeing the day when you post in someones introduction section letting them know that they too can do this. And that all of the pain and suffering is worth it.
And you will be speaking the truth, from experience.
It is truly a life enriching experiencing to rid yourself of the chains.
Listen to this man.
He knows of what he speaks.
I understand 100% too of what you are going through.
This place works. I'm another example of what this place can do.
If I can, you can.
Great decision, and welcome Brother.
-Nolaq Day 892
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Look...I chewed for about 15 yrs. When I quit 81 days ago I was up to 2 cans a day. I quit when i had a sore on my lip i thought was cancer (it wasnt) and i had a panic attack and was in the hospital for 3 days and thats when i realized i had my wake up call and decided to quit cold ass turkey.
I literally went ape shit about a week in with anxiety, I thought I was a diabetic ( have no idea why, even bought a glucometer), I thought I forgot to breathe, i could barely sleep for 2 weeks, I couldn't eat, I was scared of this sight...even left it for a couple weeks, I thought I couldn't answer the phone at work, I thought nobody would like me anymore, hell I didn't even know if I could love my wife and kids anymore, I thought I would never be able to watch sports, a movie, a sit com or even a porn ever again. I thought I would never be "me" againg, I thought I was superman and NOT having dip was my cryptonite...and nobody even knew I dipped, I was a ninjas dipper. I now see a shrink and a substance abuse councellor and take anti anxiety meds.
Hows that for fucked up?
Will your quit be that bad? Hell no, at least I sure the hell hope not. But like u I kept asking for "end dates". "When will this end, when will I feel this again, when will things get better, etc..." and people on here said the same thing..."everyone is different but trust me things will get better". When I woke up the next day I would be pissed and say to myself "fuck these guys this shit will never get better"
But the one thing I NEVER did was give up. The easiest thing would have been for me to say fuck these guys I don't know them from Adam, grab a can and go back to being "normal"...but I haven't. Sometimes I wonder why but i know fucking why. I REALLY want to quit this shit. I hate being a slave to it...and oh yeah its killing me. Why else would I put up with all this shit?
Truth is it does get better. Took awhile for me and I recently hit a funk as I think my brain is doing some re wiring, but if you post roll daily, stay close to the sight and involved, you can and will beat this shit. Don't let my story scare you, I'm just being honest. But if you are really serious about quitting, jump aboard, I got your back and so do a ton of guys who aren't nearly the pussy I am.
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Look...I chewed for about 15 yrs. When I quit 81 days ago I was up to 2 cans a day. I quit when i had a sore on my lip i thought was cancer (it wasnt) and i had a panic attack and was in the hospital for 3 days and thats when i realized i had my wake up call and decided to quit cold ass turkey.
I literally went ape shit about a week in with anxiety, I thought I was a diabetic ( have no idea why, even bought a glucometer), I thought I forgot to breathe, i could barely sleep for 2 weeks, I couldn't eat, I was scared of this sight...even left it for a couple weeks, I thought I couldn't answer the phone at work, I thought nobody would like me anymore, hell I didn't even know if I could love my wife and kids anymore, I thought I would never be able to watch sports, a movie, a sit com or even a porn ever again. I thought I would never be "me" againg, I thought I was superman and NOT having dip was my cryptonite...and nobody even knew I dipped, I was a ninjas dipper. I now see a shrink and a substance abuse councellor and take anti anxiety meds.
Hows that for fucked up?
Will your quit be that bad? Hell no, at least I sure the hell hope not. But like u I kept asking for "end dates". "When will this end, when will I feel this again, when will things get better, etc..." and people on here said the same thing..."everyone is different but trust me things will get better". When I woke up the next day I would be pissed and say to myself "fuck these guys this shit will never get better"
But the one thing I NEVER did was give up. The easiest thing would have been for me to say fuck these guys I don't know them from Adam, grab a can and go back to being "normal"...but I haven't. Sometimes I wonder why but i know fucking why. I REALLY want to quit this shit. I hate being a slave to it...and oh yeah its killing me. Why else would I put up with all this shit?
Truth is it does get better. Took awhile for me and I recently hit a funk as I think my brain is doing some re wiring, but if you post roll daily, stay close to the sight and involved, you can and will beat this shit. Don't let my story scare you, I'm just being honest. But if you are really serious about quitting, jump aboard, I got your back and so do a ton of guys who aren't nearly the pussy I am.
Not gonna hi-jack the intro, but Diesel is FAR FAR FAR from a pussy. He has overcome a lot and had a difficult time with his quit at some points. Yet here he is today. It takes balls to admit all the shit he's gone through with his quit. He's a badass.
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Look...I chewed for about 15 yrs. When I quit 81 days ago I was up to 2 cans a day. I quit when i had a sore on my lip i thought was cancer (it wasnt) and i had a panic attack and was in the hospital for 3 days and thats when i realized i had my wake up call and decided to quit cold ass turkey.
I literally went ape shit about a week in with anxiety, I thought I was a diabetic ( have no idea why, even bought a glucometer), I thought I forgot to breathe, i could barely sleep for 2 weeks, I couldn't eat, I was scared of this sight...even left it for a couple weeks, I thought I couldn't answer the phone at work, I thought nobody would like me anymore, hell I didn't even know if I could love my wife and kids anymore, I thought I would never be able to watch sports, a movie, a sit com or even a porn ever again. I thought I would never be "me" againg,  I thought I was superman and NOT having dip was my cryptonite...and nobody even knew I dipped, I was a ninjas dipper. I now see a shrink and a substance abuse councellor and take anti anxiety meds.
Hows that for fucked up?
Will your quit be that bad? Hell no, at least I sure the hell hope not. But like u I kept asking for "end dates". "When will this end, when will I feel this again, when will things get better, etc..." and people on here said the same thing..."everyone is different but trust me things will get better". When I woke up the next day I would be pissed and say to myself "fuck these guys this shit will never get better"
But the one thing I NEVER did was give up. The easiest thing would have been for me to say fuck these guys I don't know them from Adam, grab a can and go back to being "normal"...but I haven't. Sometimes I wonder why but i know fucking why. I REALLY want to quit this shit. I hate being a slave to it...and oh yeah its killing me. Why else would I put up with all this shit?
Truth is it does get better. Took awhile for me and I recently hit a funk as I think my brain is doing some re wiring, but if you post roll daily, stay close to the sight and involved, you can and will beat this shit. Don't let my story scare you, I'm just being honest. But if you are really serious about quitting, jump aboard, I got your back and so do a ton of guys who aren't nearly the pussy I am.
Ready shakes his head. And then he swells up with pride. Who are these people? They reach out from the life boat, extend thier hand and pull with all their might. I do not know Diesel. But I know his kind and his character. Thank you Diesel.
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Jake, I just sent you a PM. Me being the computer dumbass I am may have messed up when I sent it. Let me know if you got it....Shit I been typing it for 15 minutes! Keep reading here, these guys/gals know what they are talking about. Mike
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Jake, I just sent you a PM. Me being the computer dumbass I am may have messed up when I sent it. Let me know if you got it....Shit I been typing it for 15 minutes! Keep reading here, these guys/gals know what they are talking about. Mike
Man Im pissed at nicotine tonight, more than pissed it got my friend today, I'm out for revenge. Check your inbox I'll do anything I can to help you through this. Listen to diesel he is one bad ass SOB when it comes to quitting. Throw the damn gum away you don't treat poisoning with more poison! Don't have it around you period!
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I'm with you Jake. I feel your pain. All of us do.
We have one distinct advantage over you at this very moment and that, quite simply, is that we know you will survive this. We believe in you and we will help you until you have the strength to also believe in you.
Stay the course. Wake up and make your promise to stay quit today, Friday. Live in the moment and do NOT even think about tomorrow, next week, month or year. You are quitting ONLY for today.
That's how this works and that's how you will march for the near future.
You can do this. Believe it!!!!
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thx leahy
again thank you all so much for the words. diesel your post really touched a nerve for me, I swear I feel like I could have written that post myself.
it really is rough. Day 4. I posted roll call. I didn't sleep AGAIN. took some melantonin at 11pm. NOPE.. rolled around til 3:30, tried more, eventually passed out from 4 to 530 and was up ever since. its re god damn diculous that I cant get 3 hours of sleep in.
I'm on day 4. all the usual shit, anxiety meds. yeah my doctor tried to put me on xanax since my blood pressure was spiking. it was 120 over 80 for years, and I quit chew and it went to 155 over 105, so he tried me on xanax. i took it in the beginning last week when i first dropped the can. it made things worse.
I am doing it el nautural now. caffeine makes my heart jump out of my chest. Keeping busy to the point of physical exhaustion seemed to really help me. I thought I had this monster BEAT, until I tweaked my back moving furniture for 8 hours straight to keep my mind off the Wds.
its feeling better now. I have hope I'll sleep once again soon. I do feel some of the panic has subsided since day 1 and 2. I read alot yesterday , nicotine really effects your central nervous system. I think my brain needs a good week of re wiring. I know I will get through this, and I know noone from the internet can tell me when its going to be over. It definately helps to talk to people who have gone through this, so thank you all.
Ima keep in touch. days drag by when your exhausted mentally and physically.
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Look...I chewed for about 15 yrs. When I quit 81 days ago I was up to 2 cans a day. I quit when i had a sore on my lip i thought was cancer (it wasnt) and i had a panic attack and was in the hospital for 3 days and thats when i realized i had my wake up call and decided to quit cold ass turkey.
I literally went ape shit about a week in with anxiety, I thought I was a diabetic ( have no idea why, even bought a glucometer), I thought I forgot to breathe, i could barely sleep for 2 weeks, I couldn't eat, I was scared of this sight...even left it for a couple weeks, I thought I couldn't answer the phone at work, I thought nobody would like me anymore, hell I didn't even know if I could love my wife and kids anymore, I thought I would never be able to watch sports, a movie, a sit com or even a porn ever again. I thought I would never be "me" againg, I thought I was superman and NOT having dip was my cryptonite...and nobody even knew I dipped, I was a ninjas dipper. I now see a shrink and a substance abuse councellor and take anti anxiety meds.
Hows that for fucked up?
Will your quit be that bad? Hell no, at least I sure the hell hope not. But like u I kept asking for "end dates". "When will this end, when will I feel this again, when will things get better, etc..." and people on here said the same thing..."everyone is different but trust me things will get better". When I woke up the next day I would be pissed and say to myself "fuck these guys this shit will never get better"
But the one thing I NEVER did was give up. The easiest thing would have been for me to say fuck these guys I don't know them from Adam, grab a can and go back to being "normal"...but I haven't. Sometimes I wonder why but i know fucking why. I REALLY want to quit this shit. I hate being a slave to it...and oh yeah its killing me. Why else would I put up with all this shit?
Truth is it does get better. Took awhile for me and I recently hit a funk as I think my brain is doing some re wiring, but if you post roll daily, stay close to the sight and involved, you can and will beat this shit. Don't let my story scare you, I'm just being honest. But if you are really serious about quitting, jump aboard, I got your back and so do a ton of guys who aren't nearly the pussy I am.
seriously diesel. your story sounds very similar to mine. paranoia, delusional. only 4 days without sleep. I have an appointment with my doctor wednesday.
I'm not going to take anxiety medz, but I am going to ask for something for sleep if I'm still not sleeping. I know that shit is addictive. I already emailed him and told him I'm going to need something, but only a prescription for 2 or 3 pills. just to get over this hump, which is what its used for.
If I take the xanax he prescribed me, i feel numb for a few hours, then it all comes rushing back when it wears off and its worse than it was before I took it, so i'm not touching that shit either.
but simply I have to get something for sleep.
by the way thank you so much for sharing that difficult part of your life with a total stranger. 81 days is very impressive. thanks again
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and if any of you want to compare vaginas with me let me know. I'm sure i have a bigger one than the rest of you, and to prove it I actually called off work today. sick day. i'm sure this puts me at the top of the pussy scale.
I look like a recovering addict. I just didn't want to have to answer to 50 different people on why i look so sick. maybe by monday i will be doing better. maybe not, but I'm taking a break, and a day off today
whatever. its just one day. I have weeks and weeks of saved vacation and sick time, so its not a problem. I owe myself this.
being a programmer, i'm going to write a little personalized calculator to let me konw how much money i'm saving. I was paying over 16 bucks for a roll every 2 days.
I spent almost 100 bucks on that nicotine patch and gum, sooner or later i'll be even and in the green. something to kill the time.
wow 8+ bucks a day for chew. crazy. 30 days in i'll have saved 250 bucks - 100 for the Replacement shit.. still not too shabby
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Dude, I know this sounds easier than it is but you need to try and RELAX. Try some deep breathing exercises...Breath in as deep as possible for 4 seconds, hold breath for 7 seconds, then exhale as hard as possible for 8 seconds and repeat 4 times. This worked for me for some reason.
If you stayed home from work you best try and stay busy. READ as much as you can on here, go for a jog, make the snake puke mayo (gross I know) but do something....Just don't sit around thinking about this shit all day.
In all honesty, I think you would benefit greatly from talking to a therapist of some sort. I was ashamed and did not want to do it, but I'll tell you what they helped me out A TON. You're still pretty early into your quit though, so if you want to wait it out I get it, but don't be afraid to turn to a professional to talk to, the know their shit. Im not talking about a psychiatrist either as all they will want to do is prescribe you meds.
This is just my 2 cents of course. Best of luck to you.
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i wouldn't have any problem talking to someone. I know it will be a while before I can get into see someone. and to be completely honest thats why i made a doc appointment for next week.
if i'm not getting a few hours of sleep by then i'm going to have to try something else, medicine wise. i simply cant function with no sleep. a few days here and there is one thing, but this is a different animal all together.
if i'm still in this boat i'll get medicine to help. and maybe make an appointment to talk to someone then. if i get lucky and snap out of it, maybe I wont need to.
I have tried melatonin the last few nights. didn't do SHIT, inf act i think it made me more irritated, when i was drowsy but still couldn't sleep.
I do have valerian root, i may give that another try tongiht. last resort is ambien. which i hate, but options are limited i suppose.
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I slept. wow. I never thought I was going to sleep again. Finally last night at 1am I fell asleep and woke up at 6am. 5 full hours.
Then I was able to fall BACK asleep until 8:30am.
I feel like a new man. I seriously never thought I'd sleep again. This is the best I've felt in weeks maybe months.
I'm still a little dizzy, but I will take that any day of the week over what I have been through. I feel like alot of people comment on how horrible their first 3 days were, and then how tehy are still not 100%, BUT for me, I want to comment on the massive improvement from day 4 to day 5.
Worth every minute of the suffering so far. I posted roll. I'm going to continue to do so. I like hanging out in the chat, and I slept FINALLY.... amen
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I slept. wow. I never thought I was going to sleep again. Finally last night at 1am I fell asleep and woke up at 6am. 5 full hours.
Then I was able to fall BACK asleep until 8:30am.
I feel like a new man. I seriously never thought I'd sleep again. This is the best I've felt in weeks maybe months.
I'm still a little dizzy, but I will take that any day of the week over what I have been through. I feel like alot of people comment on how horrible their first 3 days were, and then how tehy are still not 100%, BUT for me, I want to comment on the massive improvement from day 4 to day 5.
Worth every minute of the suffering so far. I posted roll. I'm going to continue to do so. I like hanging out in the chat, and I slept FINALLY.... amen
Awesome jake!! Remember, your body is going through a big adjustment. It takes some time to get "back on track" with the sleep habits. Looks like you're right on schedule. Proud to see you quit again today all rested up. And prouder still to be quit with you.
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Getting out of the physical withdrawls took me five days, too. Run your tongue along the inside of your lip - doesn't it feel completely different? Really focus on the little positive changes you might notice now, like the way your lip feels, how you feel in the morning after a good sleep (refreshed, instead of hung-over,) how three of four hours might slip by without you once thinking about a chew. Focusing on positive changes (and there are many) is helping me get through the ongoing negative stuff (like cravings.)
I'm in this with you (day-12 for me) so let's keep fighting this bitch!
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Glad to hear you found the magic and got some sleep!
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I'm with ya. not going to quit my quit. had some normal cravings. and the brain fog was pretty thick, but I'm rested, and ready to continue posting my roll.
Day 5 in the books. onto day 6. pretty soon i'll be counting this in weeks not days. fuck yeah
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Freaking awesome!
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I slept. wow. I never thought I was going to sleep again. Finally last night at 1am I fell asleep and woke up at 6am. 5 full hours.
Then I was able to fall BACK asleep until 8:30am.
I feel like a new man. I seriously never thought I'd sleep again. This is the best I've felt in weeks maybe months.
I'm still a little dizzy, but I will take that any day of the week over what I have been through. I feel like alot of people comment on how horrible their first 3 days were, and then how tehy are still not 100%, BUT for me, I want to comment on the massive improvement from day 4 to day 5.
Worth every minute of the suffering so far. I posted roll. I'm going to continue to do so. I like hanging out in the chat, and I slept FINALLY.... amen
Awesome jake!! Remember, your body is going through a big adjustment. It takes some time to get "back on track" with the sleep habits. Looks like you're right on schedule. Proud to see you quit again today all rested up. And prouder still to be quit with you.
I hadn't been in chat in a long time but I was in there the other day and we were discussing your inability to sleep. I felt bad for ya and am glad you are working through that. Never forget what these first few days feel like. I am proud to quit with you today.
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hell ya luby. I remember you in there too. If this shit was easy we would forget, but not me, I went through 5 days of HELL, not sleeping really at the point of wondering if I needed to go to hospital, and finally when I just couldn't take it anymore I did fall asleep.
The last two nights I slept a few hours and I feel like a new man. I still have WD symptoms, but I'm alot more equipped to deal with them as I am rested a little.
Tonight is day 6, the end of it, and i'm actually thinking of going to bed early and seeing if I can ge tlike a 11hour night in, I still need it to catch up, I mean I'm getting like 5 hours of sleep the last 2 nights, its better than zero, but still a far cry from a normal night.
Iive turned the corner though. I plan to getup post roll and get on with my day tomrrow and start my first week nictotine free in 15 years. crazy! I'm so amped up for it though.. noticing alot of positive suprises with this new change to my body
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hell ya luby. I remember you in there too. If this shit was easy we would forget, but not me, I went through 5 days of HELL, not sleeping really at the point of wondering if I needed to go to hospital, and finally when I just couldn't take it anymore I did fall asleep.
The last two nights I slept a few hours and I feel like a new man. I still have WD symptoms, but I'm alot more equipped to deal with them as I am rested a little.
Tonight is day 6, the end of it, and i'm actually thinking of going to bed early and seeing if I can ge tlike a 11hour night in, I still need it to catch up, I mean I'm getting like 5 hours of sleep the last 2 nights, its better than zero, but still a far cry from a normal night.
Iive turned the corner though. I plan to getup post roll and get on with my day tomrrow and start my first week nictotine free in 15 years. crazy! I'm so amped up for it though.. noticing alot of positive suprises with this new change to my body
Glad your getting your rest...your body will definitely mess with you for a bit. after your getting some energy back be sure and get some exercise.. It will help tire you out and you'll sleep like a baby.. keep it up bro we're all here quit with you..
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I'm on day 14 and I still have trouble falling asleep at night at times. Been taking a melatonin half hour before bed and it does help mentally to feel rested. Another issue is without my morning chew I'm not as regular as I used to be. 'flush'
Keep on feeling better and honor your word to stay quit by posting roll every day. You can do it!
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I'm on day 14 and I still have trouble falling asleep at night at times. Been taking a melatonin half hour before bed and it does help mentally to feel rested. Another issue is without my morning chew I'm not as regular as I used to be.  'flush' Â
Keep on feeling better and honor your word to stay quit by posting roll every day. You can do it!
tsnus..are you exercising? that has really helped my sleep. I wake up (post of course) have coffee (1 cup) visit the throne, and then exercise before eating.. by the end of the day I'll sleep easy... sorry to repeat myself.. runs in the family.. quit with you...
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HA!!! Being "backed-up" was one of the biggest side-effects for me. Coffee and dip was my moring routine. Now, it is coffee and exercise (walking). But what really got me through the tough time was Citrucel (orange flavor if there's a choice).
It mixes easily in water, tastes great (if you like Tang...reminds me of being a kid), and really gets you going. After I drank a glass of that the night before, I could get into a 3 pt stance the next morning and fire a turd 10 yards...like one of those NFL automatic football-throwing machines. (Never actually tried to do that, but I felt like I could have).
Miralax (or something aggressive-sounding like that) was also recommended to me by the pharmacist at a CVS. I never tried it. Citrucel did the trick.
Oh, and after a few weeks without nicotine, you'll be back to normal.
Best part of your email is that it sounds like you're doing this right. Stay strong and stay quit!
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It's funny how things work...I had the opposite experience come along with my quit. Everyday I am in the bathroom before 8 a.m. Like clockwork. Even my 5 year old daughter asked me "Daddy why do you go potty every morning?".
HAHAHA
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So I had blood pressure issues. It was 149 over 95 and my doctor was considering discussing bp medicine. I knew the nicotine and caffeine was worsening this.
I cut back significantly on cofee, and I also quit nicotine. August 12th I stopped Chewing. I went a week with the patch and gum, actuallly about 6 days. then I stopped that shit too.
I'm nic free for 9 days, and chew free for 17 days.
I went in today for a monthly bp checkup, because if it didn't change they were going to put me on medicine.
My blood pressure was 108 over 64, and my pulse was 62. Exactly 1 month ago I was at 149 over 95 with a poulse of 79.
I was a 2.5 to 3 can a day chewer. What a Great piece of news. I'm told my health is perfect, and stopping nicotine GREATLY reduced my blood pressure, my doctor was astounded, and told me to keep up what i'm doing.
I'm a cranky whining cunt at times, but i'm 9 days nic free and i'm using this board as my tool to get it done, so I wanted to say I'm happy about this, and thanks to you all!
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So I had blood pressure issues. It was 149 over 95 and my doctor was considering discussing bp medicine. I knew the nicotine and caffeine was worsening this.
I cut back significantly on cofee, and I also quit nicotine. August 12th I stopped Chewing. I went a week with the patch and gum, actuallly about 6 days. then I stopped that shit too.
I'm nic free for 9 days, and chew free for 17 days.
I went in today for a monthly bp checkup, because if it didn't change they were going to put me on medicine.
My blood pressure was 108 over 64, and my pulse was 62. Exactly 1 month ago I was at 149 over 95 with a poulse of 79.
I was a 2.5 to 3 can a day chewer. What a Great piece of news. I'm told my health is perfect, and stopping nicotine GREATLY reduced my blood pressure, my doctor was astounded, and told me to keep up what i'm doing.
I'm a cranky whining cunt at times, but i'm 9 days nic free and i'm using this board as my tool to get it done, so I wanted to say I'm happy about this, and thanks to you all!
outstanding news brother!
Keep on keeping on!
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So I had blood pressure issues. It was 149 over 95 and my doctor was considering discussing bp medicine. I knew the nicotine and caffeine was worsening this.
I cut back significantly on cofee, and I also quit nicotine. August 12th I stopped Chewing. I went a week with the patch and gum, actuallly about 6 days. then I stopped that shit too.
I'm nic free for 9 days, and chew free for 17 days.
I went in today for a monthly bp checkup, because if it didn't change they were going to put me on medicine.
My blood pressure was 108 over 64, and my pulse was 62. Exactly 1 month ago I was at 149 over 95 with a poulse of 79.
I was a 2.5 to 3 can a day chewer. What a Great piece of news. I'm told my health is perfect, and stopping nicotine GREATLY reduced my blood pressure, my doctor was astounded, and told me to keep up what i'm doing.
I'm a cranky whining cunt at times, but i'm 9 days nic free and i'm using this board as my tool to get it done, so I wanted to say I'm happy about this, and thanks to you all!
outstanding news brother!
Keep on keeping on!
I had a similar experience...BP is now normal too. But the best number on your post is Day 9. Great start, brother!!! Stay strong.
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WTG jakeryan! Proud to be quit with you today.
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thx everyone i'm realy suprised to have this positive of a change on my body in this short of time frame. If only the mental aspects of quitting would improve that fast.
The body first, then the mind. It all needs time. I'm very positive today and never fealt stronger.
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Good news Jake..my bp also went down. Keep on keepin on.
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Greatnews jake! I also significantly dropped my BP! It was slowly killing me!
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That's great Jake!
I should have done that before I quit -gotten some actual physical metrics as a before and after. This may be too much information but is probably related: I've been sporting serious morning wood everyday since Day 4. I don't have the foggiest idea what my blood pressure is now but to me that a serious quality of life improvement.
Nice to be quit with you today man!
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haha. yeah i'm not sure if quitting chew is boner inducing. i suppose it can be. My overall health has improved dramatically. I'm Nic free 9 days, and chew free 17. I'm 100% sure the dropping the massive amounts of nic 17 days ago has alot to do with it . I think there are like 100mg of nic in a can of chew. I went from a huge amount of it, to about 15mg a day. Wore the patch for days 1-8 during the day.
Now I am back to where my health should be, it REALLY shows you how bad this shit is for your body. blood pressure was high for no reason other than nicotine.
I'm sure at some point i'l put on a few pounds as I'm eating more. I will keep as active as possible to offset it, and when my mind and body settle down i'll drop the weight. yeah the metrics before and after are something i encourage everyone to do before they quit so they can see what an impact this shit was having on yrou life.
i was in denial about it until today
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Thanks for sharing I too had BP issues and now wake up full of energy without
nic. Nice to be quit with you 'Sno' 'Sno' 'Sno'
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For me, my Blood pressure dropped 20 points from the top number.
and 16 points from the bottom number.
Nothing has changed in the past 3 weeks, except nicotine is removed from my system. And I have been stressed out lately from the quit. obviously.
SO I'm curious to see where it is in another month. . VERY interesting. If you noticed something similar lets hear it. The more good news the better.
Day 10 for me. Slept great last night. Feel like I'm on the upswing again.
THe good days are lasting longer, the bad ones are shorter, and less intense. Feels good!
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glad to hear it - glad to quit with you today!