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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: Texaslifer03 on June 27, 2011, 02:12:00 PM
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Well I am 26 and have been dipping for 8 years. I went from a two can of Cope/skoal a day to moving to pouches thinking it was not as bad for me. I seriously have two pouches in all day except when I eat. I recently found out that my wife and I will be having our first kid in December. I know I need to quit and I think I want to. What is the best way. Should I gradually stop, use other nicotene products to quit, or just stop cold turkey. I am sitting here about to throw my can in the garbage, but I know when my next craving comes I will dig it out and put another in. What is the best way or does it differ for everyone. I want to be around to see my son and daughter grow up. I just dont think mentally I can quit. Any help would be appreciated.
Thank you,
J.P.
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Well I am 26 and have been dipping for 8 years. I went from a two can of Cope/skoal a day to moving to pouches thinking it was not as bad for me. I seriously have two pouches in all day except when I eat. I recently found out that my wife and I will be having our first kid in December. I know I need to quit and I think I want to. What is the best way. Should I gradually stop, use other nicotene products to quit, or just stop cold turkey. I am sitting here about to throw my can in the garbage, but I know when my next craving comes I will dig it out and put another in. What is the best way or does it differ for everyone. I want to be around to see my son and daughter grow up. I just dont think mentally I can quit. Any help would be appreciated.
Thank you,
J.P.
jp~
sitting where you are right now is the scariest time and place during a quit. can i do it, should i do it, etc. deep down inside you know the answer, or else you wouldn't be here. it's time. you can do this. you should do this. and if you want it, you will do this.
a couple of things:
1. you have to quit for yourself and your own reasons. you have to have solid ground to stand on when the nic demons visit you.
2. KTC is a cold turkey site. there are other ways, and there are other sites. KTC is amazingly successful BECAUSE it is cold turkey and because of the support you'll receive as a quitter.
3. there is no tomorrow here. you can't "quit tomorrow." take your can, flush the contents, find your hidden spare, and flush that shit too. either sack up or find someplace else to coddle you.
4. you only quit for 24 hrs at a time, but you do it every time. you wake up, post roll (your promise to stay nic free for the day), keep your word, and then repeat the next day.
5. stay active on the site... read your way through craves. the first three days suck... no matter what. we've all been there. we made it through and you can too.
go to october 2011 and post roll. once you do and quit for real, you'll be surprised by the support you'll receive.
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Just took my dip out and threw everything in the trash. Also poured old coffee over it so i wont be tempted to pick them out later. Here it goes. Thank you for your reply.
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Just took my dip out and threw everything in the trash. Also poured old coffee over it so i wont be tempted to pick them out later. Here it goes. Thank you for your reply.
nice work. you beat my edit, though. here's some more help:
1. Go here first: Welcome Center (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13)
2. Go here to post roll: October 11 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=4873)
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Just took my dip out and threw everything in the trash. Also poured old coffee over it so i wont be tempted to pick them out later. Here it goes. Thank you for your reply.
You got this my man!! These next 72 hours are going to SUCK. Embrace it!!! Remember every single moment of it. And when you are quit 5, 50, 100 days from now and you feel the urge to have a dip, remember how much misery you went through to get to the point your at. Who in their right frame of mind would ever want to go through that again?!?!
We have all been in your shoes, and from your perspective, it's a scary fight. But let me tell ya, it gets better real fast. Post roll everyday and keep your word. Soon enough you will feel like a new man, FREE FROM THE NIC BITCH!!!
You can do it!
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Should today be the day? YOU BET YOUR FUCKING BOTTOM DOLLAR. 8 years ago should have been the day. No more killing yourself bro. This is it.
Let's get some conviction going here Lifer. YOU ARE QUIT...the moment you dumped that piece of cancer candy or lip turd from your lip, you quit. You can do this. Get to know your brothers and sisters in October. Get some accountability going. Post roll every day. No "but the..." or "I couldn't..." excuses. Can't get to a computer? Text it to a quit brother/sister.
You don't think you can quit....YOU QUIT. I quit today and I plan on quitting tomorrow. That's about all I manage today...its hot and my wife is carrying her gun in the house today so I'm not going to push my luck.
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Thank you for your support. I find the info on what roll call is but where do I sign up? Or what do I do? I want to get involved. If someone is holding me accountable as well I am a lot less likely to let them down.
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Thank you for your support. I find the info on what roll call is but where do I sign up? Or what do I do? I want to get involved. If someone is holding me accountable as well I am a lot less likely to let them down.
This is how you post roll:
index.php?showtopic=50 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50)
and the super secret video showing the same:
http://www.killthecan.org/roll/ (http://www.killthecan.org/roll/)
Your quit group is October. Which is in the link DC put up.
index.php?showtopic=4873 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=4873)
Posting roll means you put your word down you will not use today. So get up every morning and put your word down.
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Texas,
#1 POST ROLL and make that promise to your October quit brothers and be a man of honor and keep that promise. Don't worry about tomorrow only QUIT TODAY! YOU can ONLY QUIT TODAY!
#2 In addition to the support you get on this site (get familiar with everything and read everything on the site--information is power)--get your wife, a trusted friend and your doctor involved in your quit.
#3 YOU are and ADDICT that will have to quit every day to stay away from nicotine. You must KNOW this. It will get better over time, but the only thing that matters is quitting today.
#4 Remember why you Quit--it must be for yourself first! Read the cancer stories and scare yourself silly because it is the truth!
#5 Two choices---quit today or die of cancer--that's an easy choice!
I quit 61 days ago--it was the best choice of my life! I quit today too that was the best choice!
Do IT!
PM me if you need anything
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Hey J.P.!
I saw you just posted a day 1 in October. Congratulations on beginning your quit. You've got a long way to go and it won't be easy, but it will be worth it!
If you need a number, send me a pm.
What helped me at this stage was "quit rage." I got so pissed and angry at the stuff that whenever a crave came my way (and there were many) I literally screamed, "no," and gave dip the finger.
Find something else to do when the craves hit. They don't last forever. Cancer usually does.
Keddy
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Texaslifer, I found out my wife and I are having our 1st in December as well. That was the last bit of motivation to quit that I needed.
Today is day 50 and I'm freed of the hold the nic bitch had on me. Just quit today and don't do the shit anymore.
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Just took my dip out and threw everything in the trash. Also poured old coffee over it so i wont be tempted to pick them out later. Here it goes. Thank you for your reply.
Congratulations, brother. You did the right thing. The next few days are going to suck balls for you but it will get better soon. I'm on day 6 myself right now and things are starting to get easier. I bought a shitload of bubble gum.. .might want to think of using something to replace the oral fixation until you get over the nicotine withdraw.
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Texas,
Pat yourself on the back. For the next 24 hours, you are one bad a$$ quitter. Nice. Smile. Focus on today. 1 day at a time.
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If your word of honor means anything, you can do this. Give your word that you will not use nicotine in any way, shape or form, for today. First thing tomorrow, do it again.
Keep your word.
I have been keeping my word for 1243 days in a row now.
It will suck at first. Don't ever forget those days. But, You have no idea how great things will get.
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So day two and I am going through living hell!!! I know you have all been there. I have the worst headache, dizzy, and cant focus. This has to get better and soon. I cant function.
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So day two and I am going through living hell!!! I know you have all been there. I have the worst headache, dizzy, and cant focus. This has to get better and soon. I cant function.
It gets better. As you suffer withdrawal, reflect on this question...
Q: If one quits using nicotine and the withdrawal is this severe, is nicotine a positive or a negative?
A: ?
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texas,
It does get better real soon, trust me. Remember today and know that you don't need to ever go through another day 2.
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Texas,
Everything is right on schedule--this is completely nromal. You don't need to function--just pretend like you are functioning---stay busy, no one will no the difference! The most important thing is--no nicotine today--don't worry about yesterday and tomorrow--just today--keep your word.
Don't call it Hell--call it Healing(that is the truth). Your body and mind are healing today from the cancerous substance you have been putting in your mouth for however long.
Do something--exercise--stay busy--drink lots of water! Stay close to the site and your support system. It will get better--I promise.
You WILL make it--only one day at a time.
Peace
LL
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Avoid your triggers. Break your old patterns bro. Listen to these guys. This is all good. Your body is fixing itself. We're addicts and this is how we fix ourselves.
Let's get through today bro. You can totally do this. Just get through today and we win. You conquered. You took control. You are stronger than your enemy. I'm quit with you.
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There are no weaklings in Texas.
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this website is what saved me during the suck, TL3. i hid myself away and read, read, read. i read old introductions and replies, i read HOF speeches, i read words of wisdom, everything. there's a lot of wisdom here, and it helps keep your mind on your quit.
notice i DIDN'T say "take your mind off of your quit." that's the last thing you want. the nic bitch is sneaky and waits for the moments where you're not paying attention. that's when a monster crave will hit. stay focused on your quit. keep it in the forefront of your mind. enjoy the mastery you have over your addiction.
lastly, get to know the people here. in your group, in other pre-HOF groups, and the vets that grace this site with their presence. there's a chat feature that's fun. upper right hand corner. get phone numbers, give your phone number. the more you give to this site in terms of time, emotion, and accountability, the better it works.
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I just dont think mentally I can quit. Any help would be appreciated.
It's not that you can't, it's that you won't.
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Hang in there, man. I'm on Day 9, and I attest to everything that has been said about it gets easier. It gets way easier. Making the decision to quit and actually flushing my can was the hardest part for me and took some serious convincing from the people on this site. But you are past that part. YOU ARE QUIT. Congratulations. I'm quit with you. Now all we need to do is keep it that way.
I don't know who, but one of the people on this site has in his signature something like, "One letter is the only difference between a crave and a cave...don't drop it."
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Texas,
Have you posted roll in October yet?
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Looking for today's post, J.P.
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i'm guessing that coffee on the dip cans wasn't enough to keep him from dumpster diving.
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I did not cave and have not yet! I have come close but things are looking up. I posted roll this am.
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Texas,
That's Awesome!
Post roll every morning and keep that promise.
Just ONE DAY at a time
PM if you need anything
LLCope
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I did not cave and have not yet! I have come close but things are looking up. I posted roll this am.
Have not yet???? You posted roll today so caving is not an option. 100% off the table. No nicotine. No way out of it.
You give your word. You keep your word.
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I did not cave and have not yet! I have come close but things are looking up. I posted roll this am.
Have not yet???? You posted roll today so caving is not an option. 100% off the table. No nicotine. No way out of it.
You give your word. You keep your word.
Same here. On day two, going from 2 cans a day to nothing. What seemed to help me a lot was getting rid of all of the spitters that I had scattered around the house and in the car - in hindsight it appears that I hoarded plastic bottles, just to make sure there was always one there within arm's reach when I needed it.
I don't need them today. Won't need 'em tomorrow either.
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I did not cave and have not yet! I have come close but things are looking up. I posted roll this am.
Have not yet???? You posted roll today so caving is not an option. 100% off the table. No nicotine. No way out of it.
You give your word. You keep your word.
Same here. On day two, going from 2 cans a day to nothing. What seemed to help me a lot was getting rid of all of the spitters that I had scattered around the house and in the car - in hindsight it appears that I hoarded plastic bottles, just to make sure there was always one there within arm's reach when I needed it.
I don't need them today. Won't need 'em tomorrow either.
That's funny...I never realized just how many bottles I had laying around until I didn't need them anymore.
TL3...Great job posting roll today. You can do anything for ONE DAY. Wake up tomorrow and quit again...repeat every single day. The first week blows, but you have a safety net with all of your brothers and sisters here. You get a craving; tell it to fuck off. You feel like caving; call someone. If you face this like it's the most important thing in your life (it is, by the way), you'll get more support than you can imagine here. If you waver and don't reach out to someone, you'll get more shit than you can imagine here.
Sounds like a pretty easy choice to me. ;)
PM if you need a number. Glad to be quit with you today.
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I did not cave and have not yet! I have come close but things are looking up. I posted roll this am.
You better become a little tougher buttercup. Im glad you came close to pussing but didn't, but you need to change your mindset or you will be repeating Day1 again and agian.
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I dont know where else to post this. What is the best dip alternative. I have heard hooch is good. Have any one you ever tried any of the brands?
Thanks
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I dont know where else to post this. What is the best dip alternative. I have heard hooch is good. Have any one you ever tried any of the brands?Â
Thanks
there is a thread for fake dip in the Wildcard Section under non-dipping discussions toward the bottom of the main Quitters Support page. Hooch spitfire is he closest to Cope for me. The wintergreen and Mint are pretty good as well. the texture is very much like the real thing. Smokey Mountain has a good tasting wintergreen. The texture is a bit off and it makes a sticky mess out of your fingers. I am not to fond of the regular flavor. My 2 cents worth
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I dont know where else to post this. What is the best dip alternative. I have heard hooch is good. Have any one you ever tried any of the brands?Â
Thanks
there is a thread for fake dip in the Wildcard Section under non-dipping discussions toward the bottom of the main Quitters Support page. Hooch spitfire is he closest to Cope for me. The wintergreen and Mint are pretty good as well. the texture is very much like the real thing. Smokey Mountain has a good tasting wintergreen. The texture is a bit off and it makes a sticky mess out of your fingers. I am not to fond of the regular flavor. My 2 cents worth
That's about where I stand as well.
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I dont know where else to post this. What is the best dip alternative. I have heard hooch is good. Have any one you ever tried any of the brands?Â
Thanks
there is a thread for fake dip in the Wildcard Section under non-dipping discussions toward the bottom of the main Quitters Support page. Hooch spitfire is he closest to Cope for me. The wintergreen and Mint are pretty good as well. the texture is very much like the real thing. Smokey Mountain has a good tasting wintergreen. The texture is a bit off and it makes a sticky mess out of your fingers. I am not to fond of the regular flavor. My 2 cents worth
That's about where I stand as well.
Do yourself a favor bro. Stay away from the fakie. You don't need it. Deal with the oral fixation now. It will take damned near all 100 days to do it but when you are done...guess what...you are done. Done and truly free. No crutches, no shackles...FREE!
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I know I should stay away from the oral fixation ...... I do however have sever case of adult ADHD so i am already on edge and constantly having to move or fidget. Tobacco used to be my fix. Not anymore! I need to find a replacement. I wont fall back into the can.
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I know I should stay away from the oral fixation ...... I do however have sever case of adult ADHD so i am already on edge and constantly having to move or fidget. Tobacco used to be my fix. Not anymore! I need to find a replacement. I wont fall back into the can.
seeds, gums, more seeds, hard candy, etc.
try not to stuff your lip
in a bind..."dip" cinnamon altoids.
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I know I should stay away from the oral fixation ...... I do however have sever case of adult ADHD so i am already on edge and constantly having to move or fidget. Tobacco used to be my fix. Not anymore! I need to find a replacement. I wont fall back into the can.
I wonder if you drink a shit ton of coffee as well? If yyou truly have ADHD and that wasn't just a figure of speech, There is a possibility that you are using stimulants (nicotine) to self medicate. Just a thought. Have you tried adderal or Vyvanse? etc? Maybe you just have ants in your pants?
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I know I should stay away from the oral fixation ...... I do however have sever case of adult ADHD so i am already on edge and constantly having to move or fidget. Tobacco used to be my fix. Not anymore! I need to find a replacement. I wont fall back into the can.
I wonder if you drink a shit ton of coffee as well? If yyou truly have ADHD and that wasn't just a figure of speech, There is a possibility that you are using stimulants (nicotine) to self medicate. Just a thought. Have you tried adderal or Vyvanse? etc? Maybe you just have ants in your pants?
I physically have been diagnosed recently with adult ADHD about 4 in 100 adults have it. I dont drink coffee or anything like that except rarely. I would believe that i used tobacco to self medicate. I do need to get on meds but in the past i hated the way they made me feel. Not to mention i get dependant on stuff too easy and dont want to trade one vise for another.
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I know I should stay away from the oral fixation ...... I do however have sever case of adult ADHD so i am already on edge and constantly having to move or fidget. Tobacco used to be my fix. Not anymore! I need to find a replacement. I wont fall back into the can.
Sunflower seeds and gum. Try different flavors to mix it up.
You can do this!
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Mr. Texas, where are you????
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Mr. Texas, where are you????
Looks like another flyby! Sad! Just plain sad!