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Title: Quit and lost - need to connect
Post by: cactusem on January 18, 2014, 07:20:00 AM
I am quit today. January 18. Just registered. Want to join my group. Not a veteran of using forums so not sure what I am doing, where I need to go, how I get with my group or what to do. Need help using this resource.
Title: Re: Quit and lost - need to connect
Post by: SAM83 on January 18, 2014, 08:56:00 AM
Welcome to the first day of the rest of your life. I see you got roll posted this morning which is the first place to start. I had never used one of these sites before 1/6/14; and you will figure it out quickly. On top of the roll call section are a bunch of links and how to's. Check them out; and ask any specific questions you might have. April 2014 "Resolute Bastards" is a great group of Quitters. The first three days are the toughest since you will be flushing your system so the physical withdraw is real. Drink lots of water as it helps relieve the fog and physical effects. You will get to the other side of it. PM me if you need to chat.
Title: Re: Quit and lost - need to connect
Post by: ParadigmDawg on January 18, 2014, 09:18:00 AM
Quitting is really simple.

Read everything on here, post roll call each morning and don't dip. Wow....that sounds so easy, doesn't it?

If you read through the other intro's you may see some of my same words on them but they always hold true so I will just repeat them...

You are in for one nasty fight but you have the tools here to make it.

Go load yourself up with gum, mints, fake chew, seeds and beef jerky. Also get some member phone numbers right now, they will help you through the rough parts.

Next, exercise to exhaustion every single day and drink so much water that you feel like you may bust. Both of these will help.

Make sure your wife reads about what you are going through. 99% chance that you are going to be a short fussed dick for the next 3-4 weeks. Try not to take it out on her and the kids. Get on here and take it out on us, we will be fine.

I quit with you.
Title: Re: Quit and lost - need to connect
Post by: ppolcyn on January 18, 2014, 09:25:00 AM
Buy into the QLF.
Title: Re: Quit and lost - need to connect
Post by: brettlees on January 18, 2014, 11:53:00 AM
Welcome Cactus- get on the site here and read all you can. Reach out and make friends who will support you- in your quit class and from more seasoned vets as well. Post a little more about yourself when you feel like it so others can reach out to you if you have things in common (which we all do, our stories about the addiction are so similar at least). You will find all you need for success here if you just follow the well worn path to success so many have forged here.

For now, do whatever it takes to get through this day by day with your roll post, but also even hour by hour or minute by minute- the nicotine is gone after 72 hours.
Title: Re: Quit and lost - need to connect
Post by: cactusem on January 19, 2014, 08:03:00 AM
Not lost any more and have begun to connect. Thanks to horseman and CBird65 for personal messages and those who have responded here on the forum so far.

A little about me. I am a woman, 68 years old and used skoal straight for 25 years. Before that I dabbled with leaf tobacco off and on and smoked camel no-filters for too many years. Quit all tobacco - dip, leaf, cigarettes - back in the late 80s around 1987. By late 1988 I was back on dip and have been ever since until yesterday - 1-18-14 - my quit day.

I didn't go cold turkey. I know myself better than that. I know I am addicted so instead I plotted this quit out over a week or more. First I dug out some very old fake chew that I had in the fridge for several years. It was way old but a few drops of water brought it back to lifeÂ…at least enough to get me started toward my quit.

I started doing nicotine-chew only AM-Noon-PM and fake chew all times in between for a couple days. Then I made the Noon dip a mix of fake  real for a day or so. Then I made the PM dip a mix and cut out the Noon mix. Finally I made the AM a mix and all others fake chew. After two days of AM mix as my only nicotine I quit.

This weaning process has worked pretty good for me and is helping me with the physical nicotine addiction part. I am making no effort to break the oral-fixation (need to have something in my mouth, need to spit, etc) part right now. I am using the heck out of this fake chew - trying different brands, flavors, mixing it up.

I credit stumbling on this site - Kill the Can - with me finally resolving to quit. I lurked around this site for days. I read all the stuff. I discovered the many alternatives to nicotine-chew and read the reviews. I liked the posting roll for accountability. I liked the support and no nonsense.

Here is a stupid thing about me. Over a year ago I started eating a plant-based whole food diet and getting structured exercise. Did all this for my health, of courseÂ…so I could live a longer healthier lifeÂ…yet I figured I could still use dip tobacco. That's dumb! Do everything to be healthy but continue to poison and kill yourself daily with dip. That's how we fool ourselves because we are addicts.

It has been a long time coming. Not any more! QLF EDD - Day 2 of the rest of my life!
Title: Re: Quit and lost - need to connect
Post by: ParadigmDawg on January 19, 2014, 08:56:00 AM
Quote from: ParadigmDawg
Quitting is really simple.

Read everything on here, post roll call each morning and don't dip. Wow....that sounds so easy, doesn't it?

If you read through the other intro's you may see some of my same words on them but they always hold true so I will just repeat them...

You are in for one nasty fight but you have the tools here to make it.

Go load yourself up with gum, mints, fake chew, seeds and beef jerky. Also get some member phone numbers right now, they will help you through the rough parts.

Next, exercise to exhaustion every single day and drink so much water that you feel like you may bust. Both of these will help.

Make sure your wife reads about what you are going through. 99% chance that you are going to be a short fussed dick for the next 3-4 weeks. Try not to take it out on her and the kids. Get on here and take it out on us, we will be fine.

I quit with you.
Well now that we know you are a woman, that changes my response.

Please change "Make sure your wife reads about what you are going through. 99% chance that you are going to be a short fussed dick for the next 3-4 weeks. Try not to take it out on her and the kids. Get on here and take it out on us, we will be fine."

To husband , bitch and him...lol...

Everything else still holds true.

Most of us get the healthy but dip part. There are a lot of athletes on this forum.
Title: Re: Quit and lost - need to connect
Post by: srans on January 19, 2014, 09:03:00 AM
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I know myself better than that.
In time you will be surprised how much you don't know about yourself. You may know the addicted you, but this journey leads to a new you. You have forgotten all about the real cactusem. The person you are now has been addicted to one of the most addictive drugs known to man. 1 was to many and 1000 was never enough. You spent 1000's of dollars on something that did absolutely nothing for you but take. You loved the poison more than anything, including your family and self. You believed lies and was lead around by a chain.

The real cactusem will surprise you. She is one bad lady. She doesn't need the poison, never did! You will discover there is so much you have missed because of this nasty addiction. Clear your mind of all that you think you know. Jump in the quit pool,, and I mean all the way in. You will like where this quit takes you. You need anything let me know.

One day at a time and you can have back a lot of what the poison has stolen. Never again for any reason and you can keep it.
Title: Re: Quit and lost - need to connect
Post by: cactusem on January 19, 2014, 09:25:00 AM
Quote from: ParadigmDawg
Quote from: ParadigmDawg
Quitting is really simple.

Read everything on here, post roll call each morning and don't dip. Wow....that sounds so easy, doesn't it?

If you read through the other intro's you may see some of my same words on them but they always hold true so I will just repeat them...

You are in for one nasty fight but you have the tools here to make it.

Go load yourself up with gum, mints, fake chew, seeds and beef jerky. Also get some member phone numbers right now, they will help you through the rough parts.

Next, exercise to exhaustion every single day and drink so much water that you feel like you may bust. Both of these will help.

Make sure your wife reads about what you are going through. 99% chance that you are going to be a short fussed dick for the next 3-4 weeks. Try not to take it out on her and the kids. Get on here and take it out on us, we will be fine.

I quit with you.
Well now that we know you are a woman, that changes my response.

Please change "Make sure your wife reads about what you are going through. 99% chance that you are going to be a short fussed dick for the next 3-4 weeks. Try not to take it out on her and the kids. Get on here and take it out on us, we will be fine."

To husband , bitch and him...lol...

Everything else still holds true.

Most of us get the healthy but dip part. There are a lot of athletes on this forum.
Ha Ha, ParadigmDawg, I had already made those changes to gender. It was the action that matteredÂ…not to whom it was directed.

I like that you related the healthy  dipping to athletes. That makes a lot of sense. So maybe I wasn't aloneÂ…but it is (was) still a pretty dumb way of thinking.
Title: Re: Quit and lost - need to connect
Post by: B-loMatt on January 19, 2014, 09:37:00 AM
Don't worry about the oral fixation it will abate when you are ready; until then so long as it is nicotine free it is ok. By the way you are nic free now right? I saw you were cutting back last week, but you need to be nicotine free if you are posting here.
Title: Re: Quit and lost - need to connect
Post by: cactusem on January 19, 2014, 09:40:00 AM
Quote from: srans
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I know myself better than that.

The real cactusem will surprise you. She is one bad lady. She doesn't need the poison, never did! You will discover there is so much you have missed because of this nasty addiction. Clear your mind of all that you think you know. Jump in the quit pool,, and I mean all the way in. You will like where this quit takes you.  You need anything let me know.

One day at a time and you can have back a lot of what the poison has stolen. Never again for any reason and you can keep it.
Thanks for this encouragement - and something to look forward to. I wanna find that bad ass woman you're talking to me about. Feet first, head first, I am all in this quit pool Â…and you are gonna keep me here I know - thanks for that.
Title: Re: Quit and lost - need to connect
Post by: cactusem on January 19, 2014, 09:45:00 AM
Quote from: B-loMatt
Don't worry about the oral fixation it will abate when you are ready; until then so long as it is nicotine free it is ok. By the way you are nic free now right? I saw you were cutting back last week, but you need to be nicotine free if you are posting here.
Yeah, nicotine free. Had last nicotine 1-17-14. Joined here on 1-18-14. 1-18-14 was my first day of all nicotine free. Today is my second...
Title: Re: Quit and lost - need to connect
Post by: Ginet on January 19, 2014, 11:34:00 AM
Quote from: cactusem
Quote from: B-loMatt
Don't worry about the oral fixation it will abate when you are ready; until then so long as it is nicotine free it is ok. By the way you are nic free now right? I saw you were cutting back last week, but you need to be nicotine free if you are posting here.
Yeah, nicotine free. Had last nicotine 1-17-14. Joined here on 1-18-14. 1-18-14 was my first day of all nicotine free. Today is my second...
Hi Cactusem,
Good job on your quit. I am also a chic in here so feel free to PM me with anything you need. See you in chat!
Title: Re: Quit and lost - need to connect
Post by: Gdubya on January 21, 2014, 09:56:00 PM
Quote from: srans
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I know myself better than that.
In time you will be surprised how much you don't know about yourself. You may know the addicted you, but this journey leads to a new you. You have forgotten all about the real cactusem. The person you are now has been addicted to one of the most addictive drugs known to man. 1 was to many and 1000 was never enough. You spent 1000's of dollars on something that did absolutely nothing for you but take. You loved the poison more than anything, including your family and self. You believed lies and was lead around by a chain.

The real cactusem will surprise you. She is one bad lady. She doesn't need the poison, never did! You will discover there is so much you have missed because of this nasty addiction. Clear your mind of all that you think you know. Jump in the quit pool,, and I mean all the way in. You will like where this quit takes you. You need anything let me know.

One day at a time and you can have back a lot of what the poison has stolen. Never again for any reason and you can keep it.
What Srans said x2. Cactus, this is a great journey you've started on. I myself have done the health kick while dipping. Pretty pointless eh? That's addiction for you. As you gain your freedom back one day at a time, you'll also be getting the real you back. Enjoy.
Title: Re: Quit and lost - need to connect
Post by: brettlees on January 21, 2014, 10:34:00 PM
How you doing now cactus? Nicotine should be about history. Fog could be hitting. Let us all know!
Title: Re: Quit and lost - need to connect
Post by: cactusem on January 23, 2014, 07:18:00 AM
Almost a week of being quit now. Fog, anxiety, no-focus lifting some. Seem to be almost getting back to a normal routineÂ…just going about the day. Using the fake dip. Weird how it seems to satisfy and calm and relaxÂ…all without nicotine. Now that it is out of my body, it's all in my head. Weird stuff.
Title: Re: Quit and lost - need to connect
Post by: SirDerek on January 23, 2014, 09:10:00 AM
Quote from: cactusem
Almost a week of being quit now. Fog, anxiety, no-focus lifting some. Seem to be almost getting back to a normal routineÂ…just going about the day. Using the fake dip. Weird how it seems to satisfy and calm and relaxÂ…all without nicotine. Now that it is out of my body, it's all in my head. Weird stuff.
well done and yes recognize that it is in your head now but YOU are in control. YOU can do what you want and what you are here for and that is to QUIT

so when anything hits, get on the site here and read, type away, contact one of your brothers and sisters.

YOU got this, and I will quit right next to you today.
Title: Re: Quit and lost - need to connect
Post by: brettlees on January 24, 2014, 06:53:00 PM
Keep it up through the weekend Cactus! sounds like things are moving along well enough. You've made it through some of the very toughest times! Keep going one day at a time and reach out if you need help.

Are you making some connections so you can get support if you need it?
Title: Re: Quit and lost - need to connect
Post by: srans on January 24, 2014, 08:26:00 PM
One week down. Head outside, look for the tallest building and head for it. Climb to the top and take a good look. Freedom,, smell it, taste it and feel it. Breath in that dignity that you've earned one day at a time. If you made it one week you can damn well bet that tomorrow will be no different. I don't know about you but I'm starting to see the new you and I'm liking her a lot more than the you that had no dignity and was lead around by the poison. Glad to be quit with you.
Title: Re: Quit and lost - need to connect
Post by: cactusem on January 25, 2014, 06:48:00 AM
"Keep it up through the weekend Cactus! sounds like things are moving along well enough. You've made it through some of the very toughest times! Keep going one day at a time and reach out if you need help.

Are you making some connections so you can get support if you need it?"


Yes! Getting lots of support. Trying to give back to others too. Read through the forum every morning after posting roll...sometimes in the evening too if I find the time. Feel like I know some of you guys. And I do know you all got my back.
Title: Re: Quit and lost - need to connect
Post by: cactusem on January 25, 2014, 06:57:00 AM
Quote from: srans
One week down. Head outside, look for the tallest building and head for it. Climb to the top and take a good look. Freedom,, smell it, taste it and feel it. Breath in that dignity that you've earned one day at a time. If you made it one week you can damn well bet that tomorrow will be no different. I don't know about you but I'm starting to see the new you and I'm liking her a lot more than the you that had no dignity and was lead around by the poison. Glad to be quit with you.
I'll be heading out for the desert - breathe the free breath of dignity up on the hills and down in the gullies. It is a grand thing...I like the new woman too. A whole week. Am glad you are quit with me. I will stay quit with you every day.
Title: Re: Quit and lost - need to connect
Post by: SAM83 on January 25, 2014, 07:31:00 AM
Quote from: cactusem
Quote from: srans
One week down.  Head outside, look for the tallest building and head for it.  Climb to the top and take a good look.  Freedom,,  smell it, taste it and feel it.  Breath in that dignity that you've earned one day at a time.  If you made it one week you can damn well bet that tomorrow will be no different.  I don't know about you but I'm starting to see the new you and I'm liking her a lot more than the you that had no dignity and was lead around by the poison.  Glad to be quit with you.
I'll be heading out for the desert - breathe the free breath of dignity up on the hills and down in the gullies. It is a grand thing...I like the new woman too. A whole week. Am glad you are quit with me. I will stay quit with you every day.
Awesome...I'll think of you while I shovel snow :lol: Congrats on a great first week. Stay resolute this weekend and enjoy your outdoor cathedral.
Title: Re: Quit and lost - need to connect
Post by: brettlees on January 28, 2014, 05:25:00 PM
Keep the posts coming every once in a while Cactus! It's good to read that you are enjoying being free! Helps all the rest of us quitters! And if you hit rough patches, lets us know you may need some support.

Glad to quit with you!
Title: Re: Quit and lost - need to connect
Post by: SAM83 on April 27, 2014, 08:24:00 AM
Congratulations on reaching the HOF! Freedom sure is sweet! See ya at 101!
Title: Re: Quit and lost - need to connect
Post by: srans on April 27, 2014, 08:35:00 AM
Quote from: SAM83
Congratulations on reaching the HOF! Freedom sure is sweet! See ya at 101!
Nice to see this. I remember your early posts. How do you feel now?

Proud of you! Things get better and better, believe it.
Title: Re: Quit and lost - need to connect
Post by: brettlees on May 30, 2014, 09:35:00 PM
Hey cactus em I'm glad you still post roll regularly and sometimes still read to see how things are going for people. Saw you lurking tonight- glad you're there!
Title: Re: Quit and lost - need to connect
Post by: SAM83 on June 16, 2014, 08:19:00 AM
Cactusem - Quietly posting +1's everyday...congrats on 150 today! Great to be quit with you and April 2014!
Title: Re: Quit and lost - need to connect
Post by: brettlees on June 16, 2014, 10:20:00 AM
Quote from: SAM83
Cactusem - Quietly posting +1's everyday...congrats on 150 today! Great to be quit with you and April 2014!
Congrats! Keep it up em!
Title: Re: Quit and lost - need to connect
Post by: SAM83 on January 17, 2015, 08:19:00 AM
Congratulations Catusem on 365 days nic free today!!!! You are rock solid!!! 'wave'
Title: Re: Quit and lost - need to connect
Post by: Scowick65 on January 17, 2015, 11:36:00 AM
Quote from: SAM83
Congratulations Catusem on 365 days nic free today!!!! You are rock solid!!! 'wave'
fist pump
Title: Re: Quit and lost - need to connect
Post by: Steakbomb18 on January 17, 2015, 12:21:00 PM
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: SAM83
Congratulations Catusem on 365 days nic free today!!!! You are rock solid!!! 'wave'
fist pump
69 year old woman, with a 25 year history of addiction, just hit her first year of quit. This is so badass and inspiring that I don't know what else to say. Congratulations Cactus!
Title: Re: Quit and lost - need to connect
Post by: brettlees on January 21, 2015, 05:52:00 PM
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: SAM83
Congratulations Catusem on 365 days nic free today!!!! You are rock solid!!! 'wave'
fist pump
I missed it!!! But Congrats from a big cactusem fan!