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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: Gordon on January 16, 2015, 08:23:00 PM
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So I work a lot of midnight shifts, and when it gets boring nothing passes the time better than dip. I have been dipping for 17 years now, and I recently lost a friend of mine to cancer. It opened up my eyes quite a bit, but I still cant find the willpower to quit dipping. I have 3 cans left right now, and dont know where to go from here. Even talking about dipping makes me want one.
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I can tell you how to get started but you have to flush those cans first.
Oh wait....I just told you.
Go flush them....now!!
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Gordon,
Of course you want dip right now... just like a heroin addict wants another hit. You are a nicotine addict. The following is a page dedicated to smokeless tobacco alternatives that can help with the acute symptoms of withdrawal. http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/smo ... ernatives/ (http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/smokeless-alternatives/)
Seeds, chewing gum, fireballs are also alternative that you can use to manage craves.
You can do this if you want to... we can help, but not until you are ready to quit. You have a decision to make... do you want this, or don't you? You never know if that next dip is going to be the one that starts the chain reaction that leads to oral cancer.
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Its crazy though, theres that feeling of yeah i need to quit and I want to quit, but I am having this really hard time envisioning myself flushing my last 3 cans, seems like such a waste.
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Just flush it all...think about waste later...when you are free from nic and then you'll realize what the true waste is and has been this whole time.
Just flush it.
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Whatever, just flushed it and I have a can with one dip left, I taped it shut and wrote "LAST DIP" its my motivator.
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A waste?? What the fuck are you talking about? I have 166 days quit and I've SAVED over $1200 and quite possibly my life. I flushed can after can in the many stoppages I had before I grew enough hair on my ass to give it up for good. You can do it too but you gotta want to do it for YOU. If you have any doubt about quitting or you're harboring thoughts if being able to dip at some point in the future, you're not going to make it.
If you want to do this, it's very simple.
1. Flush your stash of any product containing nicotine
2. Post roll call in the newest quit group every damn day
3. Get active in your quit group (don't post and ghost)
4. Collect phone numbers of other quitters for offline accountability
There, I laid it out for you. Quit 101. If you can't follow that I can't help you.
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Joe,
Im doin it man. Cant seem to find the 2015 Quit Group though. Either way Step 1 done, cans fuckin flushed.
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This should be your quit group..April 2015 (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/10847546/1/)
I havent posted roll either but the welcome center should give you a little more to go on
And flush that one last dip you taped shut too.
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Joe,
Im doin it man. Cant seem to find the 2015 Quit Group though. Either way Step 1 done, cans fuckin flushed.
It's real simple my man, go back into the community and click quit groups. Scroll down and select the April 2015 quit group. Follow the instructions to post roll on the welcome center or on the April roll page. If you need help, your quit brothers and sisters will be more than happy to assist. I quit with you today. You can do this.
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Now let's see my friend. Why don't you wait like I was going to till you maybe have part of your lip cut off before you decide to quit! I mean why do we think were invincible! Nic bitch don't care how old or young you are! Had a good friend that dips 2 cans a day tell me aw hell you can get cancer from breathing thats like saying if its my time I'm going anyway! My thoughts, good man gives you enough since to not even start the shit! Why did we start? Why can't we stop? Right now you have a choice.....Quit! Later may not have lip to put one in! Nerves ain't got shit to do with this! You gotta want to! So put on your big boy drawers and join us just think this shits free awesome!
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Well I found my group, thanks for the help. Im currently stationed in Belgium so its already the 17th here, so as soon as its the 17th in America ill start my role call.
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Glad you found it...I havent posted roll either but from now on lets both do it everyday
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Yeah im gonna make it happen man
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Well I found my group, thanks for the help. Im currently stationed in Belgium so its already the 17th here, so as soon as its the 17th in America ill start my role call.
You damn right you did we want let you down! Don't let us down! You get back all youput in here!
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Glad you found it...I havent posted roll either but from now on lets both do it everyday
Don't just think about posting its an honor to be a part of a bunch of guys that can sign there name and give there word they will not use so remember when you do we got your back your not alone!
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Whatever, just flushed it and I have a can with one dip left, I taped it shut and wrote "LAST DIP" its my motivator.
Do yourself the favor of throwing that shit in the toilet right now. You will be clawing at that tape in no time.
Fuckers have been known to dig in trash cans to recover the last pinch left in cans before.
When I was in high school my Mom found my can and made me dump it off the back deck. A couple hours later I was picking Skoal Cherry out of the sand to get just one more pinch....fucking pathetic.
The waste here is how much time, money, energy, health, etc you have given a plant.
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Well I found my group, thanks for the help. Im currently stationed in Belgium so its already the 17th here, so as soon as its the 17th in America ill start my role call.
You damn right you did we want let you down! Don't let us down! You get back all youput in here!
Welcome! It's 1/17/15 state side!!! Post up Gordon!!! 'welcome'
Time to tell that Nic Bitch 'Finger'
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Well I found my group, thanks for the help. Im currently stationed in Belgium so its already the 17th here, so as soon as its the 17th in America ill start my role call.
You damn right you did we want let you down! Don't let us down! You get back all youput in here!
Welcome! It's 1/17/15 state side!!! Post up Gordon!!! 'welcome'
Time to tell that Nic Bitch 'Finger'
hmm. Don't see you on roll. Am I missing something?
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Well I found my group, thanks for the help. Im currently stationed in Belgium so its already the 17th here, so as soon as its the 17th in America ill start my role call.
You damn right you did we want let you down! Don't let us down! You get back all youput in here!
Welcome! It's 1/17/15 state side!!! Post up Gordon!!! 'welcome'
Time to tell that Nic Bitch 'Finger'
hmm. Don't see you on roll. Am I missing something?
I'm with Scowick and Pope, I'm not quite sure what to think about this. You take a semi badass approach by dumping 3 cans, but then leave one measly dip, scotch taped in a can. What is that shit? Is that some sort of prize? Like, if you quit for a week, you get a cheat dip. This isn't a diet. This is a quit...i.e. no nicotine, in any form. Then again, your roll posting is in question, so in theory without your promise not to use nicotine, then hey, what the hell...go for that savory last dip in your can. I'm sure we'll see the same intro from you again...3 more full cans ready to be flushed because your on the cusp of "maybe" quitting.
My head is spinning. Are any of you as confused as I am right now by this guy. Just typing that synopsis had me feel like I was a dog chasing it's tail. Look, I'm going to spell this out for you in black and white. If you're serious about this there are 2 things you need to do: 1) flush all of your dip down the toilet, all of it, including all stashes and emergency supplies. 2) Post roll and make the promise. Repeat step 2 every day and keep your word.
If you want the support, we'll give it to you, but you won't get shit until you do 1 and 2. You may ask why am I being so firm or hard on you about this...it's because I want you to quit and stop pretending to quit.
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Well gents I just posted in my roll call. There is a thing called a time zone difference, and I was asleep, so excuse me for closing my eyes. So this is the beginning of my day 2 and I am already irritated, so excuse any disrespect taken.
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Gordon, I too work midnights and got lots of shit for not posting when everyone else did. Lots of people are blunt and some are plain assholes that are tough guys behind a keyboard. But the reason for some of it is we know what it takes to quit. Not stop, but actually quit. It's tough, it sucks, there's no way around it. So get active on this site, read everything u can and make some connections so u stay accountable. That's the main thing and posting roll is very sacred around here so take that seriously. Hit me up on pm if u need anything.
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Well gents I just posted in my roll call. There is a thing called a time zone difference, and I was asleep, so excuse me for closing my eyes. So this is the beginning of my day 2 and I am already irritated, so excuse any disrespect taken.
Great job friend!
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Thanks men for the support, I just decided now that a mouthful of coffe grounds would help. DO NOT FUCKING DO THIS. LOL
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Thanks men for the support, I just decided now that a mouthful of coffe grounds would help. DO NOT FUCKING DO THIS. LOL
Um, yeah, that's disgusting. I don't know if they sell fake chew over there but u can order it online. Best I found was Smokey Mountain. They have all kinds of flavors. Give it a try. Otherwise the ground beef jerky is ok too.
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Yeah I cant get either of them, and I ordered some smokey mountain already, but its gonna be about 10 days before it gets here.
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Well gents I just posted in my roll call. There is a thing called a time zone difference, and I was asleep, so excuse me for closing my eyes. So this is the beginning of my day 2 and I am already irritated, so excuse any disrespect taken.
Great job friend!
Good man. You have one more thing to do...flush the trophy dip and you'll be money.
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Well I flushed the trophy dip, and glad I did it now, becuase Im hurtin right now and pretty sure I wouldnt have been able to flush it tomorrow and I would have caved. By far best decision of the day.
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The next few days are going to be tough, but you can fight through it. No one regrets quitting.
Some days are hour by hour. Seriously... I remember creating milestones throughout the day because quitting for an entire day seemed to long.
Have alternatives (gum, seeds, snack nuts, whatever...I once stuck a bag of tea in my cheek). Exercise helps a lot. Work out as much as you can. I found it to be the time when I felt about normal during the early days. I had workouts that were so good that I hit weights that I has not done in 15 years. If you need to, do some sort of body movement exercise every hour.
Feel free to jump in your group and contact anyone here for help or guidance or mere conversation.
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Well I flushed the trophy dip, and glad I did it now, becuase Im hurtin right now and pretty sure I wouldnt have been able to flush it tomorrow and I would have caved. By far best decision of the day.
Good for you. Quitting hard with you today. Keep it up!
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This shit is crazy, Im on day 2 and fuckin angry as hell right now... WTF
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Why you angry?
Tell us about it.... Angry cancer took your friends life?
Angry you can't have what you think you need? Angry you started tobacco?
That anger needs to be pointed to the Nic B$#@h... She is the one that hooked you, and lies to you. You made the decision to start this, and you have a great start going...
It's OK to get mad..... Make sure you know why..... You have been lied to over and over...
You don't need Nic. You will die.
Don't let her beat you.
Talk to us....
Don't want to sound like an ass, I'm mad too brother... My father in law is dieing... They took his tongue out and tried to replace it with a muscle from his forearm. It's not pretty.
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Yeah its just crazy man, angry that I started, angry that I still want it, and angry that I cant have it. I got it though, I will win, not the dip.
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It will get easier...
You stay or here and keeping talking and reading.... That's what support is allowed about...
Everybody here feels the same as you.. Especially on day 2!
Best quote on here is.. It sucks until it doesn't....
You can do this and you will be do grateful that you did....
PM me anytime....
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I am so excited for day 3 LOL, worst part is I dont smoke at all, never have, but co-workers come in and smell like smoke, and it sets off a craving, if those would just go away.
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I am so excited for day 3 LOL, worst part is I dont smoke at all, never have, but co-workers come in and smell like smoke, and it sets off a craving, if those would just go away.
In my experience the craving levels are like this.
Day 1 - 10: Really really suck
Day 11-30: Really suck
Day 30-100: Suck
Day 100 on: Get stronger every day. Still get craves.
It takes time to reprogram your brain. Stay strong!
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Gordon I'm here for you if there is anything I can do let me know. Have you tried seeds or gum to fight off the cravings? Maybe at least while you're waiting on the Smokey Mountain to get to you. Just don't pick up another bad habit to replace your old bad habit.
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Gordon did you quit today or yesterday? Your profile says today, but you posted roll yesterday.
Did you have a day 1 cave?
Edit: doesn't look like it. We're going with Jan 16 being your quit day . . you posted yesterday. Today is the 17th, your 2nd quit day.
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I am so excited for day 3 LOL, worst part is I dont smoke at all, never have, but co-workers come in and smell like smoke, and it sets off a craving, if those would just go away.
In my experience the craving levels are like this.
Day 1 - 10: Really really suck
Day 11-30: Really suck
Day 30-100: Suck
Day 100 on: Get stronger every day. Still get craves.
It takes time to reprogram your brain. Stay strong!
It's different for everyone.
I had a bad first day.
Every day after it got better and within a week I felt OK. Day 13 now I still have minor craves but nothing unmanageable.
If you are having severe craves I highly recommend Smokey Mtn Wintergreen. I'm not using it now but it was loud (even if you didn't use wintergreen snuff).
Whatever it takes. I think if you can get through the first (which you did), you can get through the second. If you can beat the second one, you can conquer the third. And so on.
Hang in there.
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Well the craving seem to pass quickly, and Grevious, due to my time zone I actually stopped in America on the 16th, but here in Belgium on the 17th.
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You're doing exactly what you should be doing. You are raging and writing in your intro just as I did. Keep doing just that. Look back over other people's intros, heck look at mine. I got 13 pages of pure quit gold in there waiting to help someone. I quit with you today and every day bro.
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I am so excited for day 3 LOL, worst part is I dont smoke at all, never have, but co-workers come in and smell like smoke, and it sets off a craving, if those would just go away.
Oops I see someone forgot to tell you this shits not easy! Been dipping 38 years on quit day 21 you think its easy for me hell yes because I manned up and this is the most important thing(other than believing in the good Lord) i can do for myself! Put your big boy drawers on ,get pissed at me if you want I really don't care! I care about you staying quit with me my friend!
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Proud of you man. Now I'm sold. Now I have faith in you and your quit. You flushed the shit, you posted roll, and now you've even one-upped me by posting your frustrations on your thread. This is how you quit my friend. Getting active, working through those cravings, and being humble enough to seek and accept the help. This is badass.
Should you need a number, shoot me a PM, and I'll be happy to make sure this quit becomes a new way of life for you.
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Thanks men the help is awesome, I am about 2 hrs out from being off of my first ever 12 hour nic free midnight shift. Feels pretty good, but I can tell that I am still very angry, just havent had any victims around the department to lash out at.
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Thanks men the help is awesome, I am about 2 hrs out from being off of my first ever 12 hour nic free midnight shift. Feels pretty good, but I can tell that I am still very angry, just havent had any victims around the department to lash out at.
Keeping working on focusing that anger at nicotine. It stole time, money, and life from you every day you suckled at the nicotine teat. Get pissed about that. You've got this Gordon, keep looking forward one day at a time.
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Good stuff Gordo!
You got this.
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Gents workin on day 3 and it sucks, but no near as irritable as I was yesterday, hope this keeps up.
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Gents workin on day 3 and it sucks, but no near as irritable as I was yesterday, hope this keeps up.
You. Are. Killing. It.
Proud of you, Gordon. This is going to get much better than you can imagine.
Keep up the good work!
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Real long drive though and I ate a whole pack of gum, but Im good now.
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Don't forget Atomic Fireballs, cinnamon disks, red hots, or anything with a bit of a burn to it. It works, trust me.
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Real long drive though and I ate a whole pack of gum, but Im good now.
perfect.
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How's that quit going or not?
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How's that quit going or not?
Where you at Gordon?
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How's that quit going or not?
Where you at Gordon?
He hasn't been on since the 18th.