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Title: Nuttidoxie intro
Post by: Nuttidoxieg4 on October 07, 2013, 11:41:00 AM
Hello all.

First let me start off by saying that sadly this is not my first rodeo. I started chewing in college to help with wrestling and not being able to eat. Chewed at my first job because I had to work third shift. Now it is more of a comfort stress reliever and a crutch. I got sick of checking my mouth for cancer every time something popped up. I quit about 9 years ago. Right before my son was born. I was on a site like this one. Made it 100 days, even gave a HOF speech. Wish I could remember the group. My son was born and he would never sleep except in the car. So 2 in the morning I would be driving around and I fell into old bad habits. Truthfully, I didn't want to quit then, don't really want to quit now but I am sick of it ruling my life, tired of wondering which sore will kill me. I am half way through the 72 hours. While life sucks right now, it is still bearable. Can't wait till the fog goes away.

Thanks
Dave
Title: Re: Nuttidoxie intro
Post by: Steve Mc. on October 07, 2013, 12:00:00 PM
Quote from: Nuttidoxieg4
Truthfully, I didn't want to quit then, don't really want to quit now
Dave, First off you have to change your thinking. That is really weak to come on a quit site and then state that you really don't want to quit. That is what we do here, QUIT one day at a time. Hope you can change your thinking and start kicking your addiction in the ass every damn day with us. Go to January and post roll, there are some fine quitters in there waiting on you.
Title: Re: Nuttidoxie intro
Post by: srans on October 07, 2013, 12:07:00 PM
Quote from: Steve
Quote from: Nuttidoxieg4
Truthfully, I didn't want to quit then, don't really want to quit now
Dave, First off you have to change your thinking. That is really weak to come on a quit site and then state that you really don't want to quit. That is what we do here, QUIT one day at a time. Hope you can change your thinking and start kicking your addiction in the ass every damn day with us. Go to January and post roll, there are some fine quitters in there waiting on you.
If you don't really want to quit you won't. Stop wasting our time.
Title: Re: Nuttidoxie intro
Post by: CaliforniaSlim on October 07, 2013, 12:20:00 PM
Quote from: srans
Quote from: Steve
Quote from: Nuttidoxieg4
Truthfully, I didn't want to quit then, don't really want to quit now
Dave, First off you have to change your thinking. That is really weak to come on a quit site and then state that you really don't want to quit. That is what we do here, QUIT one day at a time. Hope you can change your thinking and start kicking your addiction in the ass every damn day with us. Go to January and post roll, there are some fine quitters in there waiting on you.
If you don't really want to quit you won't. Stop wasting our time.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but if you don't really want to quit now, you wont.
Title: Re: Nuttidoxie intro
Post by: traumagnet on October 07, 2013, 12:23:00 PM
Quote from: srans
Quote from: Steve
Quote from: Nuttidoxieg4
Truthfully, I didn't want to quit then, don't really want to quit now
Dave, First off you have to change your thinking. That is really weak to come on a quit site and then state that you really don't want to quit. That is what we do here, QUIT one day at a time. Hope you can change your thinking and start kicking your addiction in the ass every damn day with us. Go to January and post roll, there are some fine quitters in there waiting on you.
If you don't really want to quit you won't. Stop wasting our time.
repeating the same steps and expecting different results is insanity...but that is obvious you have to be insane to want to knowingly put poison in your mouth after you have already been educated as to what tobacco is and does. I agree with the rest here don't waste our time come back when YOU want to quit. Til then enjoy your stoppage on your own.
Title: Re: Nuttidoxie intro
Post by: Pinched on October 07, 2013, 01:35:00 PM
Dave,
You made it to your HOF then caved, I get how that can happen. What I don't understand is how after that you cave and still today make a statement that you don't want to quit yet you don't like knowing which sore will do you in.

I really never wanted to get addicted to nicotine but I did. I really didn't want to change my own oil, complete the wife's honey-do list.

Yet I do because that is life. Yet I have chosen to quit and I have made that decision for myself. I ask you to not waste anyone's time unless you truly want to quit. You do seem to have a reason and will to want to but your words indicate that you don't.

Perhaps my dyslexia has not allowed me to read your message correctly and I do hope I am wrong. So come in here and prove me wrong.

Pinched
Title: Re: Nuttidoxie intro
Post by: Mike from AB on October 08, 2013, 12:21:00 AM
Dave have a good hard long look at yourself  wonder if you really don't want to be quit now. Somehow you managed to find this site, you've been on something similar before so you even know what it's about. You're partway into the 72hrs already. You mention health fears several times, which can only be solved by quitting. I can understand at the start thinking that you don't really want to quit, I thought similar when I started down this road. Examine yourself, learn about yourself though,  ODAAT keep up the quit  you'll be able to modify your thinking.
Title: Re: Nuttidoxie intro
Post by: Radman on October 08, 2013, 09:54:00 AM
I agree with the others here. Sounds like your attitude hasn't changed. Man, until I got my head right, this was an impossible battle. Nicotine and tobacco were killing us. That is a fact. The folks at big tobacco intentionally tweak the chemical makeup of their products to increase addiction, etc. That makes them murderers and assholes. I'll never give them another dime of my money.

Illustrations of what I mean:
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Now it is more of a comfort stress reliever and a crutch.

.....and I fell into old bad habits.
Wrong. You are an addict. All of us are.
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Truthfully, I didn't want to quit then, don't really want to quit now but I am sick of it ruling my life, tired of wondering which sore will kill me.
You want to quit. Nicotine has rewired your brain by holding your reward systems (dopamine, adrenaline) hostage.

Make up your mind right now that there is nothing more important in your life than quitting nicotine. It has to be that way. At least for the first few months.

Let me know if I can help.
Title: Re: Nuttidoxie intro
Post by: Diesel2112 on October 08, 2013, 10:33:00 AM
You don't really want to quit.

That's cool. Leave and comeback when you do. We will still be here, ready to help.

Hopefully you don't come back with half a fucking face or your fucking tongue removed.

Grow some fucking balls man. Fuck...
Title: Re: Nuttidoxie intro
Post by: Jlud007 on October 08, 2013, 10:41:00 AM
Quote from: Diesel2112
You don't really want to quit.

That's cool. Leave and comeback when you do. We will still be here, ready to help.

Hopefully you don't come back with half a fucking face or your fucking tongue removed.

Grow some fucking balls man. Fuck...
+1

Grow a pair and post quit with us or go away.

This stress relief blah, blah bullshit is just that....bullshit.

The stress is your body going into withdrawal, the relief is you giving it the next nic fix....that's addiction buddy.

You either decide you no longer want to be a slave to the can or don't, it's that simple. I hope you choose freedom.
Title: Re: Nuttidoxie intro
Post by: Nuttidoxieg4 on October 14, 2013, 06:02:00 PM
I really need to figure out how together updates from my posts. First of all, thank you all for your opinions, they are valid if not off based. Second, judge me all you want for there is only one person that is truly allowed to judge me, and no I don't see his post. If you feel I am a waste of your time, so be it, your not the first to misjudge me and won't be the last. I quit on October 6th. Through the flood I just went through, up all night pumping water out of my house, digging a new drainage ditch, yeah if that didn't break me I am not sure what will. Life sucked for the first three days but I made it.
Title: Re: Nuttidoxie intro
Post by: Punkin on October 14, 2013, 06:36:00 PM
Quote from: Nuttidoxieg4
I really need to figure out how together updates from my posts. First of all, thank you all for your opinions, they are valid if not off based. Second, judge me all you want for there is only one person that is truly allowed to judge me, and no I don't see his post. If you feel I am a waste of your time, so be it, your not the first to misjudge me and won't be the last. I quit on October 6th. Through the flood I just went through, up all night pumping water out of my house, digging a new drainage ditch, yeah if that didn't break me I am not sure what will. Life sucked for the first three days but I made it.
Sorry for your troubles. My wife broke her ankle this morning and I was in the ER with her and 2 kids and I managed to post roll.

I'm not trying to get in a pissing match but there is a lot of people in our quit group who were concerned about what was up. If you don't have my number, pm me and I'll gladly give it out. That way, if you can't post roll, call me or text me and I'll gladly post for you.

Congrats on not caving. It's easy to do under high stress. Welcome back
Title: Re: Nuttidoxie intro
Post by: CaliforniaSlim on October 14, 2013, 06:37:00 PM
Quote from: Nuttidoxieg4
I really need to figure out how together updates from my posts. First of all, thank you all for your opinions, they are valid if not off based. Second, judge me all you want for there is only one person that is truly allowed to judge me, and no I don't see his post. If you feel I am a waste of your time, so be it, your not the first to misjudge me and won't be the last. I quit on October 6th. Through the flood I just went through, up all night pumping water out of my house, digging a new drainage ditch, yeah if that didn't break me I am not sure what will. Life sucked for the first three days but I made it.
Nuttie. Understand this- Nobody is judging you. Folks just think that your attitude is not one which is likely to stay quit.
You must know we are right. You actually got to have your attitude, and see how it ended... you didn't stay quit.
The way I see it, that leaves you with 2 choices. Change your attitude to get in line with the one that will keep you quit, or keep the same one and end up caving again.

I hope you really dive in and spend some time on this site. You have the toughness to be a bad-ass quitter, but I think it is a little misdirected right now.
Title: Re: Nuttidoxie intro
Post by: Diesel2112 on October 14, 2013, 06:41:00 PM
Quote from: CaliforniaSlim
Quote from: Nuttidoxieg4
I really need to figure out how together updates from my posts.  First of all, thank you all for your opinions, they are valid if not off based.  Second, judge me all you want for there is only one person that is truly allowed to judge me, and no I don't see his post.  If you feel I am a waste of your time, so be it, your not the first to misjudge me and won't be the last.  I quit on October 6th. Through the flood I just went through, up all night pumping water out of my house, digging a new drainage ditch, yeah if that didn't break me I am not sure what will.  Life sucked for the first three days but I made it.
Nuttie. Understand this- Nobody is judging you. Folks just think that your attitude is not one which is likely to stay quit.
You must know we are right. You actually got to have your attitude, and see how it ended... you didn't stay quit.
The way I see it, that leaves you with 2 choices. Change your attitude to get in line with the one that will keep you quit, or keep the same one and end up caving again.

I hope you really dive in and spend some time on this site. You have the toughness to be a bad-ass quitter, but I think it is a little misdirected right now.
Nobody is judging you, just your desire to quit. Nobody knows you and we can only go off what you give us.

Give us some more....
Title: Re: Nuttidoxie intro
Post by: Nuttidoxieg4 on October 14, 2013, 07:10:00 PM
Understandable. Perhaps it is my easy demeanor that rubbed some the wrong way. There seems to be a lot of drama on this site, understandable considering the purpose of the site. Right now while not actually wanting a dip have been hooked on smokey mountain herbal snuff. I really can't wait to wean myself off of that. I am surprised that I am unable to concentrate or go into a fog around 4 but even that is becoming less intense and last shorter. From experience I would say quitting the second time has been easier with the exception of the first 4 days which I swear was 10 times harder. Honestly though, you seem like a good group of people.
Title: Re: Nuttidoxie intro
Post by: CaliforniaSlim on October 14, 2013, 07:20:00 PM
Quote from: Nuttidoxieg4
Understandable. Perhaps it is my easy demeanor that rubbed some the wrong way. There seems to be a lot of drama on this site, understandable considering the purpose of the site. Right now while not actually wanting a dip have been hooked on smokey mountain herbal snuff. I really can't wait to wean myself off of that. I am surprised that I am unable to concentrate or go into a fog around 4 but even that is becoming less intense and last shorter. From experience I would say quitting the second time has been easier with the exception of the first 4 days which I swear was 10 times harder. Honestly though, you seem like a good group of people.
Nuttie, don't worry about quitting the smokey mountain. If it is helping keep your mouth busy and away from the evil nicotine, then chew away. There may come a time where you try to get rid of it, but at day 9, I would just stay focused on the nicotine. Maybe try sunflower seeds, gum, candy, whatever, but really, I would save that worry until the craves go away a bit.
Glad you posted roll. Keep your word, and I will see you tomorrow at roll call.
Title: Re: Nuttidoxie intro
Post by: Pinched on October 14, 2013, 09:53:00 PM
Quote from: CaliforniaSlim
Quote from: Nuttidoxieg4
Understandable.  Perhaps it is my easy demeanor that rubbed some the wrong way.  There seems to be a lot of drama on this site, understandable considering the purpose of the site.  Right now while not actually wanting a dip have been hooked on smokey mountain herbal snuff.  I really can't wait to wean myself off of that.  I am surprised that I am unable to concentrate or go into a fog around 4 but even that is becoming less intense and last shorter.  From experience I would say quitting the second time has been easier with the exception of the first 4 days which I swear was 10 times harder.  Honestly though, you seem like a good group of people.
Nuttie, don't worry about quitting the smokey mountain. If it is helping keep your mouth busy and away from the evil nicotine, then chew away. There may come a time where you try to get rid of it, but at day 9, I would just stay focused on the nicotine. Maybe try sunflower seeds, gum, candy, whatever, but really, I would save that worry until the craves go away a bit.
Glad you posted roll. Keep your word, and I will see you tomorrow at roll call.
Everyone can rub someone the wrong way on here because interpretation of the typed word does not portray or project tone like the spoken word does. As was indicated no one was directly judging you but wanted to know more.

Only you can make your quit stick. Everyone here reaches out in support. I am glad to see that your quit continues. Stick with it and reach out if you need a hand brother.

Pinched
Title: Re: Nuttidoxie intro
Post by: srans on October 15, 2013, 09:11:00 AM
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Perhaps it is my easy demeanor that rubbed some the wrong way.  There seems to be a lot of drama on this site, understandable considering the purpose of the site.


I didn't see any drama as I read your intro. While reading your initial intro your statements indicated your mind is not in where it needs to be to succeed. I read a a lot of addict speak and a some bad ass quitters trying to get your mind in the right place.

This is what is so great about this site. You will be told the truth about your addiction. We try and get your mind right, so that you never again for any reason put the filthy disgusting poison in your pie hole.

Question  Why did it take you so long to come back with a reply? I'm going to take a guess here,, could be wrong. My guess is your trying to quit on your own and discovering it's pretty tough. Why don't you stay a while,, make some friends. You would be surprised how much this site will help you. There is some great people here and there is one thing we all know how to do here. QUIT!!!!! Would love to see you post roll and join us. Need some digits let me know.
Title: Re: Nuttidoxie intro
Post by: Minny on October 15, 2013, 09:47:00 AM
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Perhaps it is my easy demeanor that rubbed some the wrong way.  There seems to be a lot of drama on this site, understandable considering the purpose of the site.
While reading your initial intro your statements indicated your mind is not in where it needs to be to succeed. I read a a lot of addict speak and a some bad ass quitters trying to get your mind in the right place.

This is what is so great about this site. You will be told the truth about your addiction. We try and get your mind right, so that you never again for any reason put the filthy disgusting poison in your pie hole.
^^^ Spot on.

Regarding the drama on KTC: take what you need and leave the rest. Whatever you do, keep close to this site: the minimum is to Post Roll every morning. Your quit will take off if you interact on your own intro and let us know what's going on with your quit. Why? Cuz it works.
Title: Re: Nuttidoxie intro
Post by: jhaenel23 on October 15, 2013, 12:14:00 PM
Quote from: Nuttidoxieg4
Understandable.  Perhaps it is my easy demeanor that rubbed some the wrong way.  There seems to be a lot of drama on this site, understandable considering the purpose of the site.  Right now while not actually wanting a dip have been hooked on smokey mountain herbal snuff.  I really can't wait to wean myself off of that.  I am surprised that I am unable to concentrate or go into a fog around 4 but even that is becoming less intense and last shorter.  From experience I would say quitting the second time has been easier with the exception of the first 4 days which I swear was 10 times harder.  Honestly though, you seem like a good group of people.
Easy quitter!! Dont mistake being held accountable by a bunch of addicts that have seen hundreds of addicts come onto this site. 'finger point'

You have ONE QUIT and that is what should be most important. That is all you know and should be the focus of your full attention right now. WE have seen HUNDREDS of quits! Some good some Bad!! We know what a good one looks like and what a bad one looks like. Taking one word out of a pretty good intro is what we do! "TRY" was the culprit in your case. Try or Trying is addict speak for "I cannot wait to have an excuse to not quit!"

Didn't know 3 letters could mean so much did ya!

Quitting is a completly different mindset. You have a life change ahead of you if you truly want to be successful! I think there is a bad ass quitter in you! Learn from the thousands that have come before you!!


I quit with you today! See you tomorrow!!


J shocker
Title: Re: Nuttidoxie intro
Post by: Nuttidoxieg4 on October 15, 2013, 11:12:00 PM
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Perhaps it is my easy demeanor that rubbed some the wrong way.  There seems to be a lot of drama on this site, understandable considering the purpose of the site.
I didn't see any drama as I read your intro. While reading your initial intro your statements indicated your mind is not in where it needs to be to succeed. I read a a lot of addict speak and a some bad ass quitters trying to get your mind in the right place.

This is what is so great about this site. You will be told the truth about your addiction. We try and get your mind right, so that you never again for any reason put the filthy disgusting poison in your pie hole.

Question  Why did it take you so long to come back with a reply? I'm going to take a guess here,, could be wrong. My guess is your trying to quit on your own and discovering it's pretty tough. Why don't you stay a while,, make some friends. You would be surprised how much this site will help you. There is some great people here and there is one thing we all know how to do here. QUIT!!!!! Would love to see you post roll and join us. Need some digits let me know.
Sorry, I take a while to post because I am basically a work-aholic. I work 12 to 16 hours a day. When I get home, it's time with the kids and then usually work after I get them to bed. Honestly with the exception of the first 4 days, I haven't been tempted. I had half a can sitting on my sink for the first 5 days. Quitting was my choice. It wasn't a throw away the can and force myself to not dip. Now it's been tossed because I really don't need it anymore. I am very concerned about the weight gain. I am already over weight and had little success losing it and this certainly isn't helping. Oh well, I am trying not to gain too much and then refocus on that when I am in more control of not chewing go on to losing the weight.
Title: Re: Nuttidoxie intro
Post by: 30isEnuff on October 16, 2013, 03:00:00 PM
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Quote from: srans
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Perhaps it is my easy demeanor that rubbed some the wrong way.  There seems to be a lot of drama on this site, understandable considering the purpose of the site.
I didn't see any drama as I read your intro. While reading your initial intro your statements indicated your mind is not in where it needs to be to succeed. I read a a lot of addict speak and a some bad ass quitters trying to get your mind in the right place.

This is what is so great about this site. You will be told the truth about your addiction. We try and get your mind right, so that you never again for any reason put the filthy disgusting poison in your pie hole.

Question  Why did it take you so long to come back with a reply? I'm going to take a guess here,, could be wrong. My guess is your trying to quit on your own and discovering it's pretty tough. Why don't you stay a while,, make some friends. You would be surprised how much this site will help you. There is some great people here and there is one thing we all know how to do here. QUIT!!!!! Would love to see you post roll and join us. Need some digits let me know.
Sorry, I take a while to post because I am basically a work-aholic. I work 12 to 16 hours a day. When I get home, it's time with the kids and then usually work after I get them to bed. Honestly with the exception of the first 4 days, I haven't been tempted. I had half a can sitting on my sink for the first 5 days. Quitting was my choice. It wasn't a throw away the can and force myself to not dip. Now it's been tossed because I really don't need it anymore. I am very concerned about the weight gain. I am already over weight and had little success losing it and this certainly isn't helping. Oh well, I am trying not to gain too much and then refocus on that when I am in more control of not chewing go on to losing the weight.
1/2 assing doesn't work...especially for quitting.
Do or Do Not...there is no Try!
KTC works...it isn't broken...we don't need you to fix it.
Cheers.
Title: Re: Nuttidoxie intro
Post by: Bean on October 16, 2013, 04:18:00 PM
Quote from: Nuttidoxieg4
Perhaps it is my easy demeanor that rubbed some the wrong way. 
Or perhaps it is that fact that some were rubbed the wrong way when you came on here and bullshitted us about quitting, huh?

Figure out what "quit" means. Then, spare us the comparison of your first "quit" to your second "quit." Like you said, we have enough drama on here. We are about posting roll and keeping our word. That's it.

Don't get me wrong, we also want you to participate in everything else on this site. But being quit is first and foremost...then come things like boobs and funnies...but only in addition to being quit.
Title: Re: Nuttidoxie intro
Post by: Reaper on October 16, 2013, 04:48:00 PM
Regardless how some of the post make you feel. Everyone is here for the same thing and that is to quit. Hang in there and together we can beat the shit out of this habit. Dont give up on us in here.
Title: Re: Nuttidoxie intro
Post by: Nuttidoxieg4 on October 16, 2013, 09:41:00 PM
Quote from: Bean
Quote from: Nuttidoxieg4
Perhaps it is my easy demeanor that rubbed some the wrong way. 
Or perhaps it is that fact that some were rubbed the wrong way when you came on here and bullshitted us about quitting, huh?

Figure out what "quit" means. Then, spare us the comparison of your first "quit" to your second "quit." Like you said, we have enough drama on here. We are about posting roll and keeping our word. That's it.

Don't get me wrong, we also want you to participate in everything else on this site. But being quit is first and foremost...then come things like boobs and funnies...but only in addition to being quit.
Being around a bunch of pricks... Not a problem to show you what quitting really means. P.s. Your welcoming committee blows.
Title: Re: Nuttidoxie intro
Post by: Nuttidoxieg4 on October 16, 2013, 09:43:00 PM
Quote from: 30isEnuff
Quote from: Nuttidoxieg4
Quote from: srans
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Perhaps it is my easy demeanor that rubbed some the wrong way.  There seems to be a lot of drama on this site, understandable considering the purpose of the site.
I didn't see any drama as I read your intro. While reading your initial intro your statements indicated your mind is not in where it needs to be to succeed. I read a a lot of addict speak and a some bad ass quitters trying to get your mind in the right place.

This is what is so great about this site. You will be told the truth about your addiction. We try and get your mind right, so that you never again for any reason put the filthy disgusting poison in your pie hole.

Question  Why did it take you so long to come back with a reply? I'm going to take a guess here,, could be wrong. My guess is your trying to quit on your own and discovering it's pretty tough. Why don't you stay a while,, make some friends. You would be surprised how much this site will help you. There is some great people here and there is one thing we all know how to do here. QUIT!!!!! Would love to see you post roll and join us. Need some digits let me know.
Sorry, I take a while to post because I am basically a work-aholic. I work 12 to 16 hours a day. When I get home, it's time with the kids and then usually work after I get them to bed. Honestly with the exception of the first 4 days, I haven't been tempted. I had half a can sitting on my sink for the first 5 days. Quitting was my choice. It wasn't a throw away the can and force myself to not dip. Now it's been tossed because I really don't need it anymore. I am very concerned about the weight gain. I am already over weight and had little success losing it and this certainly isn't helping. Oh well, I am trying not to gain too much and then refocus on that when I am in more control of not chewing go on to losing the weight.
1/2 assing doesn't work...especially for quitting.
Do or Do Not...there is no Try!
KTC works...it isn't broken...we don't need you to fix it.
Cheers.
I don't believe I was trying to fix anything. Doesn't matter.
Title: Re: Nuttidoxie intro
Post by: Punkin on October 16, 2013, 10:19:00 PM
Quote from: Nuttidoxieg4
Quote from: Bean
Quote from: Nuttidoxieg4
Perhaps it is my easy demeanor that rubbed some the wrong way. 
Or perhaps it is that fact that some were rubbed the wrong way when you came on here and bullshitted us about quitting, huh?

Figure out what "quit" means. Then, spare us the comparison of your first "quit" to your second "quit." Like you said, we have enough drama on here. We are about posting roll and keeping our word. That's it.

Don't get me wrong, we also want you to participate in everything else on this site. But being quit is first and foremost...then come things like boobs and funnies...but only in addition to being quit.
Being around a bunch of pricks... Not a problem to show you what quitting really means. P.s. Your welcoming committee blows.
Does this mean we arent friends anymore? Oh and BTW, you didnt post roll today....
Title: Re: Nuttidoxie intro
Post by: Dougie on October 17, 2013, 07:27:00 PM
MOVING ON OUT