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Title: This is going to suck!!!
Post by: natemtb on August 27, 2009, 12:33:00 PM
Just thought I would stop in and introduce myself. I was looking around the internet and happened onto this site from a link from cancer.org. I quit chewing for 3 years, from '95-98', started up again because I was weak coupled with some personal issues. In 2005 I quit for 10 days, cold turkey.
I have chewed 2 cans of Red Seal/Copenshit per day, until Monday this week. I'm down to 1/2 can a day and feelin weird. I'm quitting on Sat. I work at a golf course and I think that not being here while quitting is going to help. I will post on monday after this interesting weekend is over.
I'm done with this ball and chain. Started chewing in 1987. Over half my life with this shit in my mouth, looking for something to spit in, spending money on something that is probably going to kill me If I don't stop. 'bang head'
Thanks for listening
Nate
Title: Re: This is going to suck!!!
Post by: redtrain14 on August 27, 2009, 12:37:00 PM
Welcome Nate.

Before you take off for your weekend dip fest, please take a few minutes and explain to me how quitting on Monday will be easier than quitting today.

Just so you know, I have yet to hear a valid reason.

Thanks

Luv

RT
Title: Re: This is going to suck!!!
Post by: Skoal Monster on August 27, 2009, 12:40:00 PM
Quote from: natemtb


Just thought I would stop in and introduce myself. I was looking around the internet and happened onto this site from a link from cancer.org. I quit chewing for 3 years, from '95-98', started up again because I was weak coupled with some personal issues. In 2005 I quit for 10 days, cold turkey.
I have chewed 2 cans of Red Seal/Copenshit per day, until Monday this week. I'm down to 1/2 can a day and feelin weird. I'm quitting on Sat. I work at a golf course and I think that not being here while quitting is going to help. I will post on monday after this interesting weekend is over.
I'm done with this ball and chain. Started chewing in 1987. Over half my life with this shit in my mouth, looking for something to spit in, spending money on something that is probably going to kill me If I don't stop. 'bang head'
Thanks for listening
Nate
Nate,

Why are you weening off? Your prolonging your own agony. You have to embrace the suck of the first 72 hrs and then its out of your system. All your doing now is giving yourself withdrawls for a longer period of time. Just fucking quit before its too late. YOur next dip could be the one that gives you cancer.

Skoal Monster
Title: Re: This is going to suck!!!
Post by: redtrain14 on August 27, 2009, 12:48:00 PM
If you quit now, you'll have the worst of it behind you by Monday. Nothing like getting ahead in life.

Know what I mean?
Title: Re: This is going to suck!!!
Post by: natemtb on August 27, 2009, 02:25:00 PM
I just sat here for the last 20 minutes looking at my last 3/4 full can of red seal. Then I got on Killthecan and read the 101 reasons to quit, then I read your reply's to my post. I just dumped the can of chew where it should be, the trash. My quit date is today. Its nice to know that the advice you guys give is coming from people that have been through it.
Thanks, Nate
Title: Re: This is going to suck!!!
Post by: Aug on August 27, 2009, 02:29:00 PM
Quote from: natemtb
I just sat here for the last 20 minutes looking at my last 3/4 full can of red seal. Then I got on Killthecan and read the 101 reasons to quit, then I read your reply's to my post. I just dumped the can of chew where it should be, the trash. My quit date is today. Its nice to know that the advice you guys give is coming from people that have been through it.
Thanks, Nate
Hellz bellz. I did the same thing last week.
Title: Re: This is going to suck!!!
Post by: Skoal Monster on August 27, 2009, 02:36:00 PM
Quote from: Aug
Quote from: natemtb
I just sat here for the last 20 minutes looking at my last 3/4 full can of red seal.  Then I got on Killthecan and read the 101 reasons to quit, then I read your reply's to my post.  I just dumped the can of chew where it should be, the trash.  My quit date is today. Its nice to know that the advice you guys give is coming from people that have been through it.
Thanks, Nate
Hellz bellz. I did the same thing last week.
Wecome to the ring........
Title: Re: This is going to suck!!!
Post by: Kdip on August 27, 2009, 02:40:00 PM
Quote from: natemtb
I just sat here for the last 20 minutes looking at my last 3/4 full can of red seal.  Then I got on Killthecan and read the 101 reasons to quit, then I read your reply's to my post.  I just dumped the can of chew where it should be, the trash.  My quit date is today. Its nice to know that the advice you guys give is coming from people that have been through it.
Thanks, Nate
Now you're talking Nate!!!

Hang in there this weekend and have a plan.
Stay close to this site - it will be your lifeline
Make sure you have plenty of gum, seeds, fake dip, etc. Do whatever it takes to keep that shit out of your mouth.
Reach out to your quit brothers if in need.
Get into chat - We will talk you out of a cave.
Get plenty of numbers for cave prevention
PM me if you need anything or a phone number
Title: Re: This is going to suck!!!
Post by: Jason Longley on August 27, 2009, 03:18:00 PM
Congrats bud! The next three days will be tough but so worth it in the long run.

The thing that helped me a lot was ALL of these guys on here had already gone through exactly what I was. Being a man I am competetive by nature and if I caved than it was like saying that all of these guys are better or tougher than me. Even if I never came back on here I would still be a pussy in my own mind and that will never happen.
Title: Re: This is going to suck!!!
Post by: redtrain14 on August 27, 2009, 04:05:00 PM
Hell yeah nater! Way to go!

Now we make it stick.

Buckle up, your in for a hell of a ride. Head over to Dec 09 and post up an intro, get to know your quit bro's and sis's, get involved and read everything you can get your hands on.

You need anything, let me know if I can help.
Title: Re: This is going to suck!!!
Post by: Ready on August 27, 2009, 07:38:00 PM
Quote from: natemtb
I just sat here for the last 20 minutes looking at my last 3/4 full can of red seal. Then I got on Killthecan and read the 101 reasons to quit, then I read your reply's to my post. I just dumped the can of chew where it should be, the trash. My quit date is today. Its nice to know that the advice you guys give is coming from people that have been through it.
Thanks, Nate
Outstanding, just OUTSTANDING!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: This is going to suck!!!
Post by: cdforecheck on August 27, 2009, 07:41:00 PM
Quote from: natemtb
I just sat here for the last 20 minutes looking at my last 3/4 full can of red seal. Then I got on Killthecan and read the 101 reasons to quit, then I read your reply's to my post. I just dumped the can of chew where it should be, the trash. My quit date is today. Its nice to know that the advice you guys give is coming from people that have been through it.
Thanks, Nate
let's do this man, good choice
Title: Re: This is going to suck!!!
Post by: natemtb on August 28, 2009, 12:12:00 PM
I don't know if this is the place to put this but I figured its as good as any. If there is a better place, mayber somebody could let me know.

'help' this is day 2 for me. Thanks to everyone with their encouraging words. I have to be honest though. This is harder than I thought.
Does anyone remember that MegaDeath song with the lyrics "Icy fingers Claw My Back" kinda feel like that right now. My every thought is consumed with getting a chew, how good it would be.
on the other hand, I sure as hell don't want to go through this again, its amazing how the justification attempts my head is making. I wish I could just go to sleep and wake up in 3 days when it was all over. On a positive note, my last chew was at around 10 a.m. yesterday, Boy did I sleep good last night. Woke up and felt rested and felt really good....until the nic fits started up a little while ago.
Nate
Title: Re: This is going to suck!!!
Post by: markr on August 28, 2009, 12:17:00 PM
Quote from: natemtb
I don't know if this is the place to put this but I figured its as good as any. If there is a better place, mayber somebody could let me know.

'help' this is day 2 for me. Thanks to everyone with their encouraging words. I have to be honest though. This is harder than I thought.
Does anyone remember that MegaDeath song with the lyrics "Icy fingers Claw My Back" kinda feel like that right now. My every thought is consumed with getting a chew, how good it would be.
on the other hand, I sure as hell don't want to go through this again, its amazing how the justification attempts my head is making. I wish I could just go to sleep and wake up in 3 days when it was all over. On a positive note, my last chew was at around 10 a.m. yesterday, Boy did I sleep good last night. Woke up and felt rested and felt really good....until the nic fits started up a little while ago.
Nate
Hang in there Nate. It will get better it will take a few more days The fog will roll in and you will be in a stupor but quit. Whatever you do don't let the Nic Bitch convince you a dip will help. The nicotine will be out of your system in anther day or so then it will all be a mind game. Be strong you can win this battle.
Title: Re: This is going to suck!!!
Post by: GlennFtheKodiak on August 28, 2009, 12:25:00 PM
Quote from: markr
Quote from: natemtb
I don't know if this is the place to put this but I figured its as good as any.  If there is a better place, mayber somebody could let me know. 

'help' this is day 2 for me.  Thanks to everyone with their encouraging words.  I have to be honest though.  This is harder than I thought. 
    Does anyone remember that MegaDeath song with the lyrics "Icy fingers Claw My Back"  kinda feel like that right now.  My every thought is consumed with getting a chew, how good it would be.
    on the other hand, I sure as hell don't want to go through this again, its amazing how the justification attempts my head is making.  I wish I could just go to sleep and wake up in 3 days when it was all over.  On a positive note, my last chew was at around 10 a.m. yesterday, Boy did I sleep good last night.  Woke up and felt rested and felt really good....until the nic fits started up a little while ago.
Nate
Hang in there Nate. It will get better it will take a few more days The fog will roll in and you will be in a stupor but quit. Whatever you do don't let the Nic Bitch convince you a dip will help. The nicotine will be out of your system in anther day or so then it will all be a mind game. Be strong you can win this battle.
Be resillant man, everyone, and I mean everyone on here, went through the same thing. As mark said, it will get easier. just hang in there and know if you go back you will be a failure and a loser. those days are over.
Title: Re: This is going to suck!!!
Post by: cdforecheck on August 28, 2009, 04:06:00 PM
Quote from: FtheKodiak
Quote from: markr
Quote from: natemtb
I don't know if this is the place to put this but I figured its as good as any.  If there is a better place, mayber somebody could let me know. 

'help' this is day 2 for me.  Thanks to everyone with their encouraging words.  I have to be honest though.  This is harder than I thought. 
     Does anyone remember that MegaDeath song with the lyrics "Icy fingers Claw My Back"  kinda feel like that right now.  My every thought is consumed with getting a chew, how good it would be.
     on the other hand, I sure as hell don't want to go through this again, its amazing how the justification attempts my head is making.  I wish I could just go to sleep and wake up in 3 days when it was all over.  On a positive note, my last chew was at around 10 a.m. yesterday, Boy did I sleep good last night.  Woke up and felt rested and felt really good....until the nic fits started up a little while ago.
Nate
Hang in there Nate. It will get better it will take a few more days The fog will roll in and you will be in a stupor but quit. Whatever you do don't let the Nic Bitch convince you a dip will help. The nicotine will be out of your system in anther day or so then it will all be a mind game. Be strong you can win this battle.
Be resillant man, everyone, and I mean everyone on here, went through the same thing. As mark said, it will get easier. just hang in there and know if you go back you will be a failure and a loser. those days are over.
hang on dude, the worst of the physical part is almost over....
Title: Re: This is going to suck!!!
Post by: Vertex on August 28, 2009, 05:17:00 PM
Quote from: FtheKodiak
Quote from: markr
Quote from: natemtb
I don't know if this is the place to put this but I figured its as good as any.  If there is a better place, mayber somebody could let me know. 

'help' this is day 2 for me.  Thanks to everyone with their encouraging words.  I have to be honest though.  This is harder than I thought. 
     Does anyone remember that MegaDeath song with the lyrics "Icy fingers Claw My Back"  kinda feel like that right now.  My every thought is consumed with getting a chew, how good it would be.
     on the other hand, I sure as hell don't want to go through this again, its amazing how the justification attempts my head is making.  I wish I could just go to sleep and wake up in 3 days when it was all over.  On a positive note, my last chew was at around 10 a.m. yesterday, Boy did I sleep good last night.  Woke up and felt rested and felt really good....until the nic fits started up a little while ago.
Nate
Hang in there Nate. It will get better it will take a few more days The fog will roll in and you will be in a stupor but quit. Whatever you do don't let the Nic Bitch convince you a dip will help. The nicotine will be out of your system in anther day or so then it will all be a mind game. Be strong you can win this battle.
Be resillant man, everyone, and I mean everyone on here, went through the same thing. As mark said, it will get easier. just hang in there and know if you go back you will be a failure and a loser. those days are over.
Welcome Nate. I'm from Colorado too. I just realized that in September, 1987 (22 years ago), I became dependent on the nic bitch. I'm 46 days quit right now, and moving forward w/ you. You can, and will, get past this. Don't fall for the lies she tells you! Don't look at the new panties she's wearing! She is, and always will be, a B-I-T-C-H!

Stay on this site. Read, post, vent, whatever you need. Just get through the first 72 hours, then you're nic free. You'll work through the fog, maybe work through some rage, but in the end, you'll be stronger, and you'll be quit! Get some numbers from your quit group, or pm me for mine. You can do this!
Title: Re: This is going to suck!!!
Post by: redyota on August 28, 2009, 07:22:00 PM
Quote from: Vertex
Quote from: FtheKodiak
Quote from: markr
Quote from: natemtb
I don't know if this is the place to put this but I figured its as good as any.  If there is a better place, mayber somebody could let me know. 

'help' this is day 2 for me.  Thanks to everyone with their encouraging words.  I have to be honest though.  This is harder than I thought. 
     Does anyone remember that MegaDeath song with the lyrics "Icy fingers Claw My Back"  kinda feel like that right now.  My every thought is consumed with getting a chew, how good it would be.
     on the other hand, I sure as hell don't want to go through this again, its amazing how the justification attempts my head is making.  I wish I could just go to sleep and wake up in 3 days when it was all over.  On a positive note, my last chew was at around 10 a.m. yesterday, Boy did I sleep good last night.  Woke up and felt rested and felt really good....until the nic fits started up a little while ago.
Nate
Hang in there Nate. It will get better it will take a few more days The fog will roll in and you will be in a stupor but quit. Whatever you do don't let the Nic Bitch convince you a dip will help. The nicotine will be out of your system in anther day or so then it will all be a mind game. Be strong you can win this battle.
Be resillant man, everyone, and I mean everyone on here, went through the same thing. As mark said, it will get easier. just hang in there and know if you go back you will be a failure and a loser. those days are over.
Welcome Nate. I'm from Colorado too. I just realized that in September, 1987 (22 years ago), I became dependent on the nic bitch. I'm 46 days quit right now, and moving forward w/ you. You can, and will, get past this. Don't fall for the lies she tells you! Don't look at the new panties she's wearing! She is, and always will be, a B-I-T-C-H!

Stay on this site. Read, post, vent, whatever you need. Just get through the first 72 hours, then you're nic free. You'll work through the fog, maybe work through some rage, but in the end, you'll be stronger, and you'll be quit! Get some numbers from your quit group, or pm me for mine. You can do this!
natemtb,

This is good stuff. Make sure you are telling this to the folks in your quit group as well. They are currently going through the same symptoms you are. This may help one of them, and one of them may know something that can help you.

Stay quit.
Title: Re: This is going to suck!!!
Post by: NowItsTime on August 28, 2009, 08:08:00 PM
Quote from: redyota
Quote from: Vertex
Quote from: FtheKodiak
Quote from: markr
Quote from: natemtb
I don't know if this is the place to put this but I figured its as good as any.  If there is a better place, mayber somebody could let me know. 

'help' this is day 2 for me.  Thanks to everyone with their encouraging words.  I have to be honest though.  This is harder than I thought. 
     Does anyone remember that MegaDeath song with the lyrics "Icy fingers Claw My Back"  kinda feel like that right now.  My every thought is consumed with getting a chew, how good it would be.
     on the other hand, I sure as hell don't want to go through this again, its amazing how the justification attempts my head is making.  I wish I could just go to sleep and wake up in 3 days when it was all over.  On a positive note, my last chew was at around 10 a.m. yesterday, Boy did I sleep good last night.  Woke up and felt rested and felt really good....until the nic fits started up a little while ago.
Nate
Hang in there Nate. It will get better it will take a few more days The fog will roll in and you will be in a stupor but quit. Whatever you do don't let the Nic Bitch convince you a dip will help. The nicotine will be out of your system in anther day or so then it will all be a mind game. Be strong you can win this battle.
Be resillant man, everyone, and I mean everyone on here, went through the same thing. As mark said, it will get easier. just hang in there and know if you go back you will be a failure and a loser. those days are over.
Welcome Nate. I'm from Colorado too. I just realized that in September, 1987 (22 years ago), I became dependent on the nic bitch. I'm 46 days quit right now, and moving forward w/ you. You can, and will, get past this. Don't fall for the lies she tells you! Don't look at the new panties she's wearing! She is, and always will be, a B-I-T-C-H!

Stay on this site. Read, post, vent, whatever you need. Just get through the first 72 hours, then you're nic free. You'll work through the fog, maybe work through some rage, but in the end, you'll be stronger, and you'll be quit! Get some numbers from your quit group, or pm me for mine. You can do this!
natemtb,

This is good stuff. Make sure you are telling this to the folks in your quit group as well. They are currently going through the same symptoms you are. This may help one of them, and one of them may know something that can help you.

Stay quit.
More CO quitters. I love it. Someday we'll take over the TX quitters on this site. Well, maybe not. Keep it up. It does suck. And guess what, it will keep sucking for a while. 3 days is not a magic number. It will continue to get better every day though. PM me if you need a fellow CO quitter's number. It's yours.

NIT - 546 days quit.
Title: Re: This is going to suck!!!
Post by: natemtb on September 03, 2009, 11:35:00 AM
Day 7 of my quit.
My tongue hurts so f***** bad, my jaw hurts from chewing gum, I'm like a human garbage disposal. You guys have any options I haven't considered? Is mint chew and stuff like that a good option, pro's and Con's if anyone has ever used them.
Thanks for your Help
Nate 'dems'
Title: Re: This is going to suck!!!
Post by: chewie on September 03, 2009, 11:56:00 AM
Quote from: natemtb
Day 7 of my quit.
My tongue hurts so f***** bad, my jaw hurts from chewing gum, I'm like a human garbage disposal. You guys have any options I haven't considered? Is mint chew and stuff like that a good option, pro's and Con's if anyone has ever used them.
Thanks for your Help
Nate 'dems'
Personally I was a HUGE fan of the fake chews...

Smokey Mountain and Hooch are my two personal favs.

http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp)

Bottom line is this... whatever keeps the real stuff out of your mouth! Congrats on a week my man... that's HUGE!
Title: Re: This is going to suck!!!
Post by: natemtb on September 03, 2009, 12:12:00 PM
Quote from: iuchewie
Quote from: natemtb
Day 7 of my quit.
My tongue hurts so f***** bad, my jaw hurts from chewing gum, I'm like a human garbage disposal. You guys have any options I haven't considered?  Is mint chew and stuff like that a good option, pro's and Con's if anyone has ever used them.
Thanks for your Help
Nate  'dems'
Personally I was a HUGE fan of the fake chews...

Smokey Mountain and Hooch are my two personal favs.

http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp)

Bottom line is this... whatever keeps the real stuff out of your mouth! Congrats on a week my man... that's HUGE!
Thanks Brother
Title: Re: This is going to suck!!!
Post by: nkt on September 03, 2009, 12:37:00 PM
Quote from: iuchewie
Quote from: natemtb
Day 7 of my quit.
My tongue hurts so f***** bad, my jaw hurts from chewing gum, I'm like a human garbage disposal. You guys have any options I haven't considered?  Is mint chew and stuff like that a good option, pro's and Con's if anyone has ever used them.
Thanks for your Help
Nate  'dems'
Personally I was a HUGE fan of the fake chews...

Smokey Mountain and Hooch are my two personal favs.

http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp)

Bottom line is this... whatever keeps the real stuff out of your mouth! Congrats on a week my man... that's HUGE!
I also used the fake chew a lot. It helped tremendously.

I also dipped shredded coconut and green tea leaves. These were both a lot less expensive than the cans of fake chew, and seemed to work about as well for me. Even holding an apricot pit in my cheek after eating the fruit got me past several cravings.
Title: Re: This is going to suck!!!
Post by: Ready on September 03, 2009, 01:38:00 PM
Quote from: NKT
Quote from: iuchewie
Quote from: natemtb
Day 7 of my quit.
My tongue hurts so f***** bad, my jaw hurts from chewing gum, I'm like a human garbage disposal. You guys have any options I haven't considered?  Is mint chew and stuff like that a good option, pro's and Con's if anyone has ever used them.
Thanks for your Help
Nate  'dems'
Personally I was a HUGE fan of the fake chews...

Smokey Mountain and Hooch are my two personal favs.

http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp)

Bottom line is this... whatever keeps the real stuff out of your mouth! Congrats on a week my man... that's HUGE!
I also used the fake chew a lot. It helped tremendously.

I also dipped shredded coconut and green tea leaves. These were both a lot less expensive than the cans of fake chew, and seemed to work about as well for me. Even holding an apricot pit in my cheek after eating the fruit got me past several cravings.
I ate the hell out of seeds for the first 120 days or so. Havn't touched them in over a year now. Whatever it takes for now. Soon, you won't need it any longer.
Title: Re: This is going to suck!!!
Post by: Skoal Monster on September 03, 2009, 04:35:00 PM
Quote from: Ready
Quote from: NKT
Quote from: iuchewie
Quote from: natemtb
Day 7 of my quit.
My tongue hurts so f***** bad, my jaw hurts from chewing gum, I'm like a human garbage disposal. You guys have any options I haven't considered?  Is mint chew and stuff like that a good option, pro's and Con's if anyone has ever used them.
Thanks for your Help
Nate  'dems'
Personally I was a HUGE fan of the fake chews...

Smokey Mountain and Hooch are my two personal favs.

http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp)

Bottom line is this... whatever keeps the real stuff out of your mouth! Congrats on a week my man... that's HUGE!
I also used the fake chew a lot. It helped tremendously.

I also dipped shredded coconut and green tea leaves. These were both a lot less expensive than the cans of fake chew, and seemed to work about as well for me. Even holding an apricot pit in my cheek after eating the fruit got me past several cravings.
I ate the hell out of seeds for the first 120 days or so. Havn't touched them in over a year now. Whatever it takes for now. Soon, you won't need it any longer.
just like you the seeds tore me up sumtin fierce, I started in on Smokey Mtn at around day 40. Smokey Mtn hurt my lip as well it wasn't as bad as dip but enough to bug me. I finally settled into the Oregon Mint Cinnamin. It had a bit of burn to it and helped with th oral fixation.

I think the oral thing is vastly different than the addiction, so I chose to deal with them separate. I still use the Oregon mint, when I'm in a trigger situation, buddies dipping, yardwork, hunting, etc. Im at 220 days .There is actually some data that suggests that using a substitute like Oregon mint or Hooch or SM increases the success rate for quitters. I will either dump it when I'm ready or chew it forever, but I will never but tobacco in my mouth again.

SM
Title: Re: This is going to suck!!!
Post by: nkt on September 03, 2009, 04:59:00 PM
Quote from: Skoal
Quote from: Ready
Quote from: NKT
Quote from: iuchewie
Quote from: natemtb
Day 7 of my quit.
My tongue hurts so f***** bad, my jaw hurts from chewing gum, I'm like a human garbage disposal. You guys have any options I haven't considered?  Is mint chew and stuff like that a good option, pro's and Con's if anyone has ever used them.
Thanks for your Help
Nate  'dems'
Personally I was a HUGE fan of the fake chews...

Smokey Mountain and Hooch are my two personal favs.

http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp)

Bottom line is this... whatever keeps the real stuff out of your mouth! Congrats on a week my man... that's HUGE!
I also used the fake chew a lot. It helped tremendously.

I also dipped shredded coconut and green tea leaves. These were both a lot less expensive than the cans of fake chew, and seemed to work about as well for me. Even holding an apricot pit in my cheek after eating the fruit got me past several cravings.
I ate the hell out of seeds for the first 120 days or so. Havn't touched them in over a year now. Whatever it takes for now. Soon, you won't need it any longer.
just like you the seeds tore me up sumtin fierce, I started in on Smokey Mtn at around day 40. Smokey Mtn hurt my lip as well it wasn't as bad as dip but enough to bug me. I finally settled into the Oregon Mint Cinnamin. It had a bit of burn to it and helped with th oral fixation.

I think the oral thing is vastly different than the addiction, so I chose to deal with them separate. I still use the Oregon mint, when I'm in a trigger situation, buddies dipping, yardwork, hunting, etc. Im at 220 days .There is actually some data that suggests that using a substitute like Oregon mint or Hooch or SM increases the success rate for quitters. I will either dump it when I'm ready or chew it forever, but I will never but tobacco in my mouth again.

SM
I used the placebos pretty consistently up until right around 200 days, then I realized I hadn't used anything in a week. The urge to shovel shit into my lip just disappeared.
Title: Re: This is going to suck!!!
Post by: chewie on September 03, 2009, 05:27:00 PM
Quote from: NKT
Quote from: Skoal
Quote from: Ready
Quote from: NKT
Quote from: iuchewie
Quote from: natemtb
Day 7 of my quit.
My tongue hurts so f***** bad, my jaw hurts from chewing gum, I'm like a human garbage disposal. You guys have any options I haven't considered?  Is mint chew and stuff like that a good option, pro's and Con's if anyone has ever used them.
Thanks for your Help
Nate  'dems'
Personally I was a HUGE fan of the fake chews...

Smokey Mountain and Hooch are my two personal favs.

http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp)

Bottom line is this... whatever keeps the real stuff out of your mouth! Congrats on a week my man... that's HUGE!
I also used the fake chew a lot. It helped tremendously.

I also dipped shredded coconut and green tea leaves. These were both a lot less expensive than the cans of fake chew, and seemed to work about as well for me. Even holding an apricot pit in my cheek after eating the fruit got me past several cravings.
I ate the hell out of seeds for the first 120 days or so. Havn't touched them in over a year now. Whatever it takes for now. Soon, you won't need it any longer.
just like you the seeds tore me up sumtin fierce, I started in on Smokey Mtn at around day 40. Smokey Mtn hurt my lip as well it wasn't as bad as dip but enough to bug me. I finally settled into the Oregon Mint Cinnamin. It had a bit of burn to it and helped with th oral fixation.

I think the oral thing is vastly different than the addiction, so I chose to deal with them separate. I still use the Oregon mint, when I'm in a trigger situation, buddies dipping, yardwork, hunting, etc. Im at 220 days .There is actually some data that suggests that using a substitute like Oregon mint or Hooch or SM increases the success rate for quitters. I will either dump it when I'm ready or chew it forever, but I will never but tobacco in my mouth again.

SM
I used the placebos pretty consistently up until right around 200 days, then I realized I hadn't used anything in a week. The urge to shovel shit into my lip just disappeared.
Yep... I was about a can/day of the fake stuff for a good 180 days or so. I went on vacation (actually met a few quitters that trip) and forgot a can so went without it for a week. Found that I just didn't need it anymore.

That said, even now after 1,100 days I'll still have a Hooch now and then working in the yard, etc. At this point it's not a trigger thing... just more of something to do.
* shrugs *
Title: Re: This is going to suck!!!
Post by: Snoopy on September 04, 2009, 01:17:00 PM
Have to agree with the others. Find what works as an alternative and move on. My personal favorite has been Mint Snuff Pouches. I found that none of the fake mint chew really tasted like or had the consistency that my Kodiak did, and to be honest, probalby better it didn't. But the pouches at least were similar to Bandits which I used every once in a while. Also helps keep down how much of that crap is stuck in your teeth.

I'm 29 days out now and I've plowed through probably 10-15 cans of these. (only 25 pouches to a can.) Still much less than when I was really chewing and nice and discrete. Just got back from my 2nd business trip and never once had to worry about if someone saw me chewing and with the pouches, you can just tuck them up in your lip and they're never seen.

Anywho, just one more perspective. Just do what you need to do to keep the Quit on.

Stick with it!
Title: Re: This is going to suck!!!
Post by: natemtb on October 23, 2009, 10:07:00 PM
I didn't really know where to put this, I guess this as good as any. One of the Big reasons we all decided to quit chewing was the fear of cancer. We all do things we know we shoulden't do. Here is another one, Cell Phone's. They are finding high rates of brain and salivary gland cancer in heavy cell phone users. Here is the link- http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/135 ... in-tumours (http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/135974/Mobile-use-is-linked-to-brain-tumours) . Just thought some of you would find it interesting. Evil Cell phone company's getting us hooked on phones. LOL Just kidding, but anyway check it out.
Title: Re: This is going to suck!!!
Post by: natemtb on October 23, 2009, 10:09:00 PM
sorry about the double post, didn't think the first one went through
Title: Re: This is going to suck!!!
Post by: Rkymtnman on October 23, 2009, 10:47:00 PM
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sorry about the double post, didn't think the first one went through
No worries - I cleaned it up for you.

Part of the reason I use a hands free headset - aside from the fact that it makes me look like a complete dork and the chicks dig it - is it keeps that transmitter away from my melon :)
Title: Re: This is going to suck!!!
Post by: natemtb on October 23, 2009, 10:53:00 PM
Quote from: rkymtnman
Quote from: natemtb
sorry about the double post, didn't think the first one went through
No worries - I cleaned it up for you.

Part of the reason I use a hands free headset - aside from the fact that it makes me look like a complete dork and the chicks dig it - is it keeps that transmitter away from my melon :)
Ya know I hadn't ever really thought about it, I thought it felt good when the phone got all hot next to my ear. (He He). I guess I'll be buying a handsfree device now.
Title: Re: This is going to suck!!!
Post by: greg40 on October 23, 2009, 10:55:00 PM
Quote from: natemtb
Quote from: rkymtnman
Quote from: natemtb
sorry about the double post, didn't think the first one went through
No worries - I cleaned it up for you.

Part of the reason I use a hands free headset - aside from the fact that it makes me look like a complete dork and the chicks dig it - is it keeps that transmitter away from my melon :)
Ya know I hadn't ever really thought about it, I thought it felt good when the phone got all hot next to my ear. (He He). I guess I'll be buying a handsfree device now.
Yep....I quit masturbating and started screwing the gap between two cushions on my couch...I don't want hairy palms, dammit!!!
Title: Re: This is going to suck!!!
Post by: Smokeyg on October 24, 2009, 04:04:00 PM
Quote from: greg40
Quote from: natemtb
Quote from: rkymtnman
Quote from: natemtb
sorry about the double post, didn't think the first one went through
No worries - I cleaned it up for you.

Part of the reason I use a hands free headset - aside from the fact that it makes me look like a complete dork and the chicks dig it - is it keeps that transmitter away from my melon :)
Ya know I hadn't ever really thought about it, I thought it felt good when the phone got all hot next to my ear. (He He). I guess I'll be buying a handsfree device now.
Yep....I quit masturbating and started screwing the gap between two cushions on my couch...I don't want hairy palms, dammit!!!
Fearing for my eyesight, I have stopped watching porn on my computer. Now, I just hide behind the shrubbery and watch Greg humping his couch. Life is good.
Title: Re: This is going to suck!!!
Post by: jaydisco on October 25, 2009, 12:43:00 PM
Quote from: Smokeyg
Quote from: greg40
Quote from: natemtb
Quote from: rkymtnman
Quote from: natemtb
sorry about the double post, didn't think the first one went through
No worries - I cleaned it up for you.

Part of the reason I use a hands free headset - aside from the fact that it makes me look like a complete dork and the chicks dig it - is it keeps that transmitter away from my melon :)
Ya know I hadn't ever really thought about it, I thought it felt good when the phone got all hot next to my ear. (He He). I guess I'll be buying a handsfree device now.
Yep....I quit masturbating and started screwing the gap between two cushions on my couch...I don't want hairy palms, dammit!!!
Fearing for my eyesight, I have stopped watching porn on my computer. Now, I just hide behind the shrubbery and watch Greg humping his couch. Life is good.
A while back I read a DIY on mastabatory devices. This kid cut a hole in a shoe box, placed two ziplockbags filled with warm water in side, then tucked a towel around the baggies to narrow the moat between them. Better than probing for couch pizza the hard way...I mean I think it would be better ;)
Title: Re: This is going to suck!!!
Post by: LaQuitter on October 25, 2009, 04:42:00 PM
Quote from: Smokeyg
Quote from: greg40
Quote from: natemtb
Quote from: rkymtnman
Quote from: natemtb
sorry about the double post, didn't think the first one went through
No worries - I cleaned it up for you.

Part of the reason I use a hands free headset - aside from the fact that it makes me look like a complete dork and the chicks dig it - is it keeps that transmitter away from my melon :)
Ya know I hadn't ever really thought about it, I thought it felt good when the phone got all hot next to my ear. (He He). I guess I'll be buying a handsfree device now.
Yep....I quit masturbating and started screwing the gap between two cushions on my couch...I don't want hairy palms, dammit!!!
Fearing for my eyesight, I have stopped watching porn on my computer. Now, I just hide behind the shrubbery and watch Greg humping his couch. Life is good.
Um...I'm in the car parked across the street, watching Smokey, watch Greg.

I have no concerns regarding hairy palms.

'jerk'
Title: Re: This is going to suck!!!
Post by: justkeepdancing on October 25, 2009, 06:09:00 PM
Quote from: LaQuitter
Quote from: Smokeyg
Quote from: greg40
Quote from: natemtb
Quote from: rkymtnman
Quote from: natemtb
sorry about the double post, didn't think the first one went through
No worries - I cleaned it up for you.

Part of the reason I use a hands free headset - aside from the fact that it makes me look like a complete dork and the chicks dig it - is it keeps that transmitter away from my melon :)
Ya know I hadn't ever really thought about it, I thought it felt good when the phone got all hot next to my ear. (He He). I guess I'll be buying a handsfree device now.
Yep....I quit masturbating and started screwing the gap between two cushions on my couch...I don't want hairy palms, dammit!!!
Fearing for my eyesight, I have stopped watching porn on my computer. Now, I just hide behind the shrubbery and watch Greg humping his couch. Life is good.
Um...I'm in the car parked across the street, watching Smokey, watch Greg.

I have no concerns regarding hairy palms.

'jerk'
'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup'

It amazes me what you can turn a perfectly innocent post into!

I'm getting all turned on just thinking about watching LaQuitter watching smokeyg watching greg do the couch.

This thread is not healthy for my innocence.