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Title: One must succeed
Post by: RippinLips04 on August 09, 2016, 12:21:00 PM
Hi guys, Currently 27 and have been chewing grizzly for some years now. Recently I have sparked the idea of quitting this habit and living a cleaner, healthier life. The fact is I've attempted to quit before and failed after only 3 short days. The cravings were tough, but the hardest part being the fog  anxiety. I believe now with the help of the forum and the motivation of my two daughters I can stay quit for good. The anxiety will come knocking and that will be the hardest but this is something that has been long over due. So if there's any tips/advice, pep talk, ect then please let it flow this way. The can has been flushed and the pounding of water starts now.
Title: Re: One must succeed
Post by: pky1520 on August 09, 2016, 01:19:00 PM
Hey Rippin - great decision man! Today is my 100 day quit and I credit finding this site with getting me here. We've all been where you are, but you can do it!

Check in here: topic/11721588/79/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11721588/79/)

That is the current quit group. You will post your day count and promise not to use there daily. It sounds a little weird, but it is the backbone of the site. It will introduce what has probably been the missing element into your quit - daily accountability. Additionally, you'll get to connect with a group of people going through the exact same struggle as you are.

I will caution you - it's not a habit, it's an addiction. You don't break it, you struggle through it daily. Additionally, quitting is not just one line item in an overall healthy living plan. It will have to be a major focus for you. Early on, other things might suffer (diet, sleep, etc.) and you have to be ok with that.

I promise that it will get better.

Reach out if I can help.
Title: Re: One must succeed
Post by: B-loMatt on August 09, 2016, 01:19:00 PM
R.L., sounds like you've been reading up at KTC already. That's good. Your decision to quit is awesome!

Post roll every day in your quit group. Make friends with your quit groups members, and exchange #s. Get friends from the quit groups around yours, post roll in their group every day, and make some friends there. Adopt a newbie tomorrow and help them get through day 1. Find some veteran quitters to swap #s with and promise to call or txt for permission to cave before you ever actually do. Print out the KTC contract to quit, and wrap your funds in it. BUILD ACCOUNTABILITY! The thought of letting down the people I met here was stronger than the craves.

First week is hell. Fight second by second if need be. Water, exercise, and take the edge off the oral fixation with fake dip, seeds, gum, atomic fireballs, an old mouth-guard, and anything else that is nicotine free that you want to stuff in your gob. Read everything and anything on KTC. Intros, HOF, WOF, cancer stories, words of wisdom, and learn the KTC plan. Follow the plan. The plan works. Live chat is also great if you need some immediate help or a distraction. It was impossible for me to cave if I was on KTC.

The first 300 days were a roller-coaster ride for me. Very hard days with the physical withdraw symptoms, and then the mind games, the fogs, and the SUCK. Good days start spinkling in once I took some pride in getting through a day and then another, and +1 again, etc., and the realization that I could do this no matter what. The SUCK is tough, but best way to deal with it is to embrace it. Recognize it for what it is and know that it means you are winning. At some point I had a day that I quit with out much of a fight from my addiction. Then it was a fight the next day. Eventually I had long stretches of easy quit in between fogs and SUCKs. Eventually the roller coaster came to a stop, and I found that I was in a way better state of quit. So Know that you are in the fight of your life right now, but you only have to fight like hell for a limited time. Quitting SUCKs until it doesn't is a true statement.

You need anything PM me. You can do this.
Title: Re: One must succeed
Post by: pab1964 on August 09, 2016, 01:20:00 PM
Welcome rip! First post roll, learn how at the welcome center. Also this is not a habit it's an addiction. Habit is picking your nose or grinding your teeth. Lucky for you, we're all addicts here. We know what you're going through and what you can expect next. Price for admission is a simple roll post. Waiting on you, I quit with you today!
Title: Re: One must succeed
Post by: Stranger999 on August 11, 2016, 12:24:00 AM
Missed roll on day 2? What happened?
Title: Re: One must succeed
Post by: ChickDip on August 11, 2016, 12:31:00 PM
Quote from: Stranger999
Missed roll on day 2? What happened?
Love your name, you need to get back in here. Post roll EDD!
Title: Re: One must succeed
Post by: Dundippin on August 12, 2016, 11:45:00 AM
Good idea to quit. Just push through day 3 and it slowly but surely gets easier. Focus your mind on anything but the quit.

I quit with you today.
Title: Re: One must succeed
Post by: FISHFLORIDA on August 12, 2016, 11:17:00 PM
I guess we'll have to wait til you get back. When you do, be ready to quit.
Title: Re: One must succeed
Post by: Armydan13 on August 14, 2016, 01:57:00 AM
I always find these introductions interesting. It's really scary to see people pour their heart out and want to make a change...but then after posting an intro they never come back...very odd but scary to see what nicotine does to people.
Title: Re: One must succeed
Post by: pky1520 on August 14, 2016, 07:37:00 AM
Quote from: Armydan13
I always find these introductions interesting. It's really scary to see people pour their heart out and want to make a change...but then after posting an intro they never come back...very odd but scary to see what nicotine does to people.
100% agree with you. When I put my intro out there, that was it for me. The quit was in print and I wasn't about to bail on it. I don't understand how some people can just give up so quickly. It just reinforces that not everyone is going to be strong enough.

Oh well. Hopefully this guy puts his big boy pants on. If not, well hell, he can quit when he's dead.
Title: Re: One must succeed
Post by: CavMan83 on August 14, 2016, 10:59:00 AM
Quote from: pky1520
Quote from: Armydan13
I always find these introductions interesting. It's really scary to see people pour their heart out and want to make a change...but then after posting an intro they never come back...very odd but scary to see what nicotine does to people.
100% agree with you. When I put my intro out there, that was it for me. The quit was in print and I wasn't about to bail on it. I don't understand how some people can just give up so quickly. It just reinforces that not everyone is going to be strong enough.

Oh well. Hopefully this guy puts his big boy pants on. If not, well hell, he can quit when he's dead.
I agree Dan. Most of the time when I read these one and dones, I try to send them an email through the KTC system (if they have the option listed under their profile -- sometimes it's "private" --- kind of a red flag they didn't want to be held accountable in the first place.

At any rate, here's what I just emailed to our boy here....

Good morning. You're probably hating yourself right now, because you have "failed" again in your attempt at quitting. I'm not going to scold. Quitting dip is vastly harder to quit than smoking, because of the amount of nicotine you have had flooding your brain for the past however many years.

I do know, however, that no matter how it feels at the time, quitting nicotine has never actually KILLED anyone. You just have to want it bad enough to gut it out through the craves that will come (there is no stopping them, unfortunately). It does, however, get better. MUCH better. I dipped Copenhagen for nearly FOUR decades, with a 15-month stoppage in 1993-94. If I can quit at my age, you can quit at yours and be the much better person for having done so.

So, how does this place work? You put your name on roll. That is SACRED. It is a solemn promise to yourself and to your quit group that you will not ingest nicotine IN ANY FORM for the next 24 hours. Then you live up to that promise. No matter what. You wake up, piss, and put your name on roll the next day and the cycle repeats. In addition, you fill your contacts list with as many numbers as you think you need to build a group of fellow quitters going through the same SUCK you are to hold you accountable to fulfilling your promise. Then you double it. I've lost track of the number of quitters in my contacts but it exceeds 100. The web of accountability you build is only going to be as strong as you build it. One Day, one Hour, one MINUTE at a time if necessary, but plow through the suck until it no longer does. That is how you quit nicotine, whether you dip, smoke, chew, vape, patch, gum, whatever.

If you're ready, REALLY ready, make that commitment to deal with the suck, read as much as you can on these pages as to how and why nicotine screws with your primal brain, and jump back in. Just be warned you'll have to answer some questions before November '16 will let you back in: 1. what happened? 2. why did it happen? 3. what are you going to do differently this time to make sure it doesn't happen again?

Hope to see you on the forum.

Respectfully,

JDW
AKA CavMan83