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Title: Sick of this
Post by: hoyle21 on September 12, 2011, 04:16:00 PM
Hi guys, just signed up. I have not quit yet, I have some questions on a few things, and am looking for help. I will say again, I have not quit yet, just so there is no confusion, but I am absolutely sick of this crap.

I started at the age of 18, and am currently 33. I stopped for about 4 years and had a bad week and had nowhere to turn and let the voice get to me. I caved in like a pussy. Last time I replaced one addiction with another. I started working out, and hit the gym hard. Every day it was my goal beat the shit out of the weights and wear myself down to nothing. That's going to be a big part of my plan this time as well. I am hoping you guys will take me, as I know that the support of people who know what you are going through is huge.

I am confused on roll call, and if there are any pre-quit conditions I need to do.

Thank you
Title: Re: Sick of this
Post by: Scowick65 on September 12, 2011, 04:23:00 PM
We will take you. You have the same story as the rest of us. Go to the top of the page and click the welcome link. Read it. Post your day 1 when you have no nic in your mouth. Yes, that means you can post a day 1 today. After you post, no more dip for the rest of the day. Wake and post a day 2 in the morn.
Title: Re: Sick of this
Post by: nkt on September 12, 2011, 04:26:00 PM
Quote from: hoyle21
Hi guys, just signed up.  I have not quit yet, I have some questions on a few things, and am looking for help.  I will say again, I have not quit yet, just so there is no confusion, but I am absolutely sick of this crap.

I started at the age of 18, and am currently 33.  I stopped for about 4 years and had a bad week and had nowhere to turn and let the voice get to me.  I caved in like a pussy.  Last time I replaced one addiction with another.  I started working out, and hit the gym hard.  Every day it was my goal beat the shit out of the weights and wear myself down to nothing.  That's going to be a big part of my plan this time as well.  I am hoping you guys will take me, as I know that the support of people who know what you are going through is huge.

I am confused on roll call, and if there are any pre-quit conditions I need to do.

Thank you
The nuts and bolts of how to post roll call are found here: How To Post Roll Call (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50)

The only 'pre-quit condition' is that you spit out the fucking dip.

As soon as you spit out your last dip, go post roll call in your quit group (December 2011 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=5162)) and keep the shit out of your mouth today. Then post roll first thing in the morning, each day, and keep your promise to stay clean for the day. Verbally abusing your fellow quitters is optional but highly encouraged.

So... why haven't you spit it out yet? I can guarantee that tomorrow, or next weekend, or the next full-moon-on-a-federal-holiday, or whatever other special occasion you think of won't feel any easier.
Title: Re: Sick of this
Post by: Wild_Bill on September 12, 2011, 04:28:00 PM
Hoyle,

Welcome. As Scowick said and just to emphasize: must be nic free to be posting roll. Come join the December future HOFers. It starts with Day 1 and we go a day at a time here.

We are here to support you.

Glad to quit with you.

whsii - 31
Title: Re: Sick of this
Post by: hoyle21 on September 12, 2011, 04:59:00 PM
I haven't quit yet, because I'm an addict. I am going to succeed but I'm not foolish enough to think it's a matter of spitting it out and carrying on with my life like nothing is different. I have specific goals, and specific dates in mind. Actually the plan is to wake up tomorrow and have my first day. I have to travel a lot for work, so the time I spend in my vehicle is going to be brutal. The timing is just as important, in my experience, as the mental resolve.

I went out drinking with my buddies last weekend, and we celebrated my last weekend going out. Not forever, but they all know better to even ask me out for drinks. I won't be able to do that for months. This is about overcoming my addiction, and it is my addiction. I'm currently at 1.5 cans a day of Kodiak. I need to be mentally prepared and it needs to be properly planned. I'm an addict, I need to change my life, not just spit out worm dirt.

I fully expect this to be one of the, if not THE most difficult things I have ever done, but I WILL DO IT.
Title: Re: Sick of this
Post by: wo1miles on September 12, 2011, 05:12:00 PM
The reason why this place works is the idea of unannounced quit. There is nothing better for your addiction than just flushing it down the toilet on a random day at a random time and posting roll for Day 1 of your new life of quit. Flush the shit, post roll. There is no better time than right fucking now!
Title: Re: Sick of this
Post by: Notdeadyet on September 12, 2011, 05:24:00 PM
Quote from: wo1miles
The reason why this place works is the idea of unannounced quit. There is nothing better for your addiction than just flushing it down the toilet on a random day at a random time and posting roll for Day 1 of your new life of quit. Flush the shit, post roll. There is no better time than right fucking now!
I've been wanting to quit for over 3 decades. Never had the balls to just do it. A good dipping buddy told me he has stomach cancer and probably won't live very long. I spit out my last dip while talking to him. I always expected to be him. Now maybe I won't be because I quit every day. Just quit and never ever let dipping be an option in your life again. If it's not an option, you are quit.
Title: Re: Sick of this
Post by: seagems on September 12, 2011, 05:47:00 PM
Quote from: hoyle21
I haven't quit yet, because I'm an addict. I am going to succeed but I'm not foolish enough to think it's a matter of spitting it out and carrying on with my life like nothing is different. I have specific goals, and specific dates in mind. Actually the plan is to wake up tomorrow and have my first day. I have to travel a lot for work, so the time I spend in my vehicle is going to be brutal. The timing is just as important, in my experience, as the mental resolve.

I went out drinking with my buddies last weekend, and we celebrated my last weekend going out. Not forever, but they all know better to even ask me out for drinks. I won't be able to do that for months. This is about overcoming my addiction, and it is my addiction. I'm currently at 1.5 cans a day of Kodiak. I need to be mentally prepared and it needs to be properly planned. I'm an addict, I need to change my life, not just spit out worm dirt.

I fully expect this to be one of the, if not THE most difficult things I have ever done, but I WILL DO IT.
Hoyle, it is hard, but it is not as hard as you think it will be. When you are chewing, and used to chewing for every occasion, it feels like nothing will be tolerable without a chew in. How will I sit in traffic, take a crap, watch football, mow the lawn, etc. without a chew in? Guess what - we all turned out to be wrong. By taking it one day at a time, one trigger at a time, we were all able to sit in traffic, take a crap, watch football, mow the lawn, etc. without a chew in and it wasn't torture. The first time might not have been that great, but that is where the bubble gum and water come in. Then, after a few times, you don't even think about the bear any more during those trigger moments. It might seem like an impossible task right now, but take it a day at a time and every day will get easier. I am no pro, but I am on day 38 after chewing kodiak for 20 years. I hated that shit and hated what it did to my self esteem and outlook on life and longevity, but I couldn't imagine getting through the day to day without it. Now I know that was all bullshit, just an excuse to keep chewing. Life goes on without chew and it is better without needing your "medicine" every hour or so. You can do this. One day at a time and next month you will be typing an email to some newbie like I am typing this one to you. Stop chewing now and enjoy the many benefits to freedom.
Title: Re: Sick of this
Post by: hoyle21 on September 12, 2011, 06:00:00 PM
Flushed, Ill post role call in the am
Title: Re: Sick of this
Post by: Notdeadyet on September 12, 2011, 06:03:00 PM
Quote from: hoyle21
Flushed, Ill post role call in the am
Post now and 1st thing in the AM!
Title: Re: Sick of this
Post by: Scowick65 on September 12, 2011, 06:05:00 PM
Quote from: Notdeadyet
Quote from: hoyle21
Flushed, Ill post role call in the am
Post now and 1st thing in the AM!
Grab that day 1 and put it in your pocket! Day 2 tomorrow.
Title: Re: Sick of this
Post by: Scowick65 on September 12, 2011, 06:26:00 PM
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: Notdeadyet
Quote from: hoyle21
Flushed, Ill post role call in the am
Post now and 1st thing in the AM!
Grab that day 1 and put it in your pocket! Day 2 tomorrow.
Congrats on your day 1
Title: Re: Sick of this
Post by: G on September 12, 2011, 06:26:00 PM
I see you just posted roll. Welcome to the suck, but also the best decision you could have made for yourself today. Make it your mission to read all you can on this site for the next few weeks.

Good to be quit with you. Yell if you need anything.
Title: Re: Sick of this
Post by: hoyle21 on September 12, 2011, 06:29:00 PM
Ok, day 1 in the back pocket. Tomorrow I will more than likely be the first to post, so I just copy that again and change my day from 1 to 2 correct?
Title: Re: Sick of this
Post by: Scowick65 on September 12, 2011, 06:31:00 PM
Quote from: hoyle21
Ok, day 1 in the back pocket.  Tomorrow I will more than likely be the first to post, so I just copy that again and change my day from 1 to 2 correct?
Affirmative. You will notice there will be a new "roll" in the morning. Quitters will add their name as the morning goes. East Coast, Central, Mountain, Pacific Coast.

You got this. Wake, post, honor. Simple but challenging. We have your back when you need it. You got mine when I need it.

See you tomorrow. Glad to quit with you today. 1 day at a time.
Title: Re: Sick of this
Post by: Notdeadyet on September 12, 2011, 06:45:00 PM
Quote from: hoyle21
Ok, day 1 in the back pocket.  Tomorrow I will more than likely be the first to post, so I just copy that again and change my day from 1 to 2 correct?
Welcome to the Drippy dicks of December, or Triple D's for short. Congrats on nutting up and joining the quit today. Tomorrow is gonna suck bigtime. Read through the last couple of weeks of December roll call - you'll laugh your ass off and it'll help take the edge off the suck. You will win one day at a time.
Title: Re: Sick of this
Post by: Souliman on September 12, 2011, 07:15:00 PM
Quote from: hoyle21
Ok, day 1 in the back pocket. Tomorrow I will more than likely be the first to post, so I just copy that again and change my day from 1 to 2 correct?
I prefer to post a witty remark about the size of my quithood when I post roll. It sends a message to the nic bitch to WATCH OUT.
Title: Re: Sick of this
Post by: nkt on September 12, 2011, 07:25:00 PM
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: Notdeadyet
Quote from: hoyle21
Flushed, Ill post role call in the am
Post now and 1st thing in the AM!
Grab that day 1 and put it in your pocket! Day 2 tomorrow.
Congrats on your day 1
Quote from: hoyle21
Ok, day 1 in the back pocket. Tomorrow I will more than likely be the first to post, so I just copy that again and change my day from 1 to 2 correct?
Awesome! I know making that choice feels like the toughest thing in the world right now, but I can guarantee that you're doing the right thing.
Title: Re: Sick of this
Post by: brotherofnomosko on September 12, 2011, 07:28:00 PM
Quote from: hoyle21
Hi guys, just signed up.  I have not quit yet, I have some questions on a few things, and am looking for help.  I will say again, I have not quit yet, just so there is no confusion, but I am absolutely sick of this crap.

I started at the age of 18, and am currently 33.  I stopped for about 4 years and had a bad week and had nowhere to turn and let the voice get to me.  I caved in like a pussy.  Last time I replaced one addiction with another.  I started working out, and hit the gym hard.  Every day it was my goal beat the shit out of the weights and wear myself down to nothing.  That's going to be a big part of my plan this time as well.  I am hoping you guys will take me, as I know that the support of people who know what you are going through is huge.

I am confused on roll call, and if there are any pre-quit conditions I need to do.

Thank you
Hoyle,

Welcome. Posting roll is a pretty easy thing, but I was a little nervous at first with it. There's pretty solid instructions in the Welcome Center (the pink link above) on how to do it. There's even a video. Most of us in the December group (that's me and you and about 30 others) are just barely getting it down, but there's a ton of pros and vets who help keep things straight.

Listen man, make the quit happen today. I'm sure you know this, but almost every one of us here used to "quit" at the end of each can or at the end of each dip; make today the real deal and make it the quit that you're going to ride. Post roll and make it to tomorrow and post again and be accountable to yourself and to us.

I'm day 6 on my quit, so I may not be the pro you're looking for for advice on this, but my quit is going to last to the end of today, and when I post tomorrow...my quit will last then, too.

Just dump that shit and get on board.

nomoskobro
Title: Re: Sick of this
Post by: wo1miles on September 13, 2011, 03:43:00 AM
Quote from: Scowick65

Quitters will add their name as the morning goes.  East Coast, Central, Mountain, Pacific Coast. 
You forgot Camel Coast.
Title: Re: Sick of this
Post by: Leahy16 on September 13, 2011, 08:50:00 AM
First I want to congratulate Hoyle on your decision to take back your life. Awesome.

Second, WOW!! Read this thread again and know that this is a beautiful thing. Just beautiful.

I'm proud to be with all of you on this journey.

Hoyle, You can do this. Yesterday was my day 100 and I'm telling you those 100 days flew by. I'm not 'cured' and there was no fireworks yesterday but it's a milestone and you can get there by just quitting TODAY.
Title: Re: Sick of this
Post by: hoyle21 on September 13, 2011, 09:48:00 AM
Today is dragging on! The world has slowed to a crawl. I feel like I've been here for days already. I may go home and go straight to bed. I'm so tired.
Title: Re: Sick of this
Post by: seagems on September 13, 2011, 12:17:00 PM
Quote from: hoyle21
Today is dragging on! The world has slowed to a crawl. I feel like I've been here for days already. I may go home and go straight to bed. I'm so tired.
Hoyle, just get through today without chewing. It will suck, but it will suck a little less each day, and soon it won't be bad at all. We are here to support you. You can do this, we've all been there.
Title: Re: Sick of this
Post by: nkt on September 13, 2011, 12:24:00 PM
Quote from: seagems
Quote from: hoyle21
Today is dragging on!  The world has slowed to a crawl.  I feel like I've been here for days already.  I may go home and go straight to bed.  I'm so tired.
Hoyle, just get through today without chewing. It will suck, but it will suck a little less each day, and soon it won't be bad at all. We are here to support you. You can do this, we've all been there.
I experienced the same thing: time seemed to stand still for a month or so. Even when I was feeling good, time still seemed to drag. It will get better after a while, just keep putting minutes and hours between you and nic.
Title: Re: Sick of this
Post by: Scowick65 on September 13, 2011, 12:27:00 PM
Quote from: NKT
Quote from: seagems
Quote from: hoyle21
Today is dragging on!   The world has slowed to a crawl.   I feel like I've been here for days already.   I may go home and go straight to bed.   I'm so tired.
Hoyle, just get through today without chewing. It will suck, but it will suck a little less each day, and soon it won't be bad at all. We are here to support you. You can do this, we've all been there.
I experienced the same thing: time seemed to stand still for a month or so. Even when I was feeling good, time still seemed to drag. It will get better after a while, just keep putting minutes and hours between you and nic.
This tends to happen. Read this---- http://www.killthecan.org/robs/time_perception.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/robs/time_perception.asp)
Title: Re: Sick of this
Post by: Timeless117 on September 13, 2011, 12:33:00 PM
Quote from: hoyle21
Today is dragging on! The world has slowed to a crawl. I feel like I've been here for days already. I may go home and go straight to bed. I'm so tired.
I hear that Hoyle. Woke up this morning after getting a good 2-3 hours of sleep feeling like my body temperature rose by about a 1000 degrees. I've been up since 7:15 and somehow it's only noon.

Gonna be a long day.
Title: Re: Sick of this
Post by: Souliman on September 13, 2011, 09:41:00 PM
Quote from: hoyle21
Today is dragging on! The world has slowed to a crawl. I feel like I've been here for days already. I may go home and go straight to bed. I'm so tired.
You can do this. I don't care if the day feels like a fucking month. You are clean. You have quit. You have made the decision to take back your life. Think about everyone of those moments as a new moment of freedom you are experiencing. No more "waiting for a dip". You are free friend. I kind of look at this period as all the strength and power coming back into your body while the nic bitch leaves. You're becoming whole again. Revel in this. You are powerful again.
Title: Re: Sick of this
Post by: nicofiend on September 13, 2011, 10:30:00 PM
Quote from: hoyle21
Today is dragging on! The world has slowed to a crawl. I feel like I've been here for days already. I may go home and go straight to bed. I'm so tired.
Hoyle its just a part of the fatigue syndrome that goes along with your nic withdrawals ,it will pass soon. Remember stay strong and take your quit one day at a time, and that my friend is the key to success! Proud to be quit with you today!! nico
Title: Re: Sick of this
Post by: Gump on September 13, 2011, 10:56:00 PM
Quote from: Souliman
Quote from: hoyle21
Today is dragging on!  The world has slowed to a crawl.  I feel like I've been here for days already.  I may go home and go straight to bed.  I'm so tired.
You can do this. I don't care if the day feels like a fucking month. You are clean. You have quit. You have made the decision to take back your life. Think about everyone of those moments as a new moment of freedom you are experiencing. No more "waiting for a dip". You are free friend. I kind of look at this period as all the strength and power coming back into your body while the nic bitch leaves. You're becoming whole again. Revel in this. You are powerful again.
And, now that you are QUIT, you get the official "according to" label back again.

I shant miss it. People have been quoting me for some time, saying "according to Gump" this and "according to Gump" that. It lacks that certain...I don't know what, panache, something.

Now it's back where it belongs, and folks will once again proclaim "According to Hoyle" and follow up with whatever they believe with utmost certainty.

Well done indeed, sirrah!
Title: Re: Sick of this
Post by: hoyle21 on September 14, 2011, 05:01:00 AM
I did go home from work and go to bed. I woke up this morning. Still in suck mode, but I know I can do it. I can get by today, just like I got by yesterday, and Ill worry about tomorrow, tomorrow.