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Title: Trying to Gain Perspective
Post by: f-bomb on July 10, 2014, 04:47:00 PM
Hello Everyone,

I've been chewing and smoking on and off since I illegally bought my first tin at 17. Now I'm realizing that's nearly 17 years ago. I thought I would just do it for a little while and then quit once I became an "adult," but every time something stressful or difficult comes along, I picked it back up. I've been an attorney now for three years. I chewed all through law school because I thought I needed it to help me study. I promised myself and my girlfriend/now wife that I would quit as soon as I finished and passed the Bar. I quit for a few months or so without really worrying too much, but as soon as something came up at work where I had to really buckle down and work late, I fell back on chewing. A year or so ago, I really fell back in hard and I started chewing all the time at work, keeping my office door closed so no one would see me spit, and swallowing and having awkward conversations if someone knocked and came in. I hid it from my wife until a month or two ago, and when I came clean, she hounded me until I set a quit day: July 4. At first I thought I would just do it to placate her and then fall back in once I needed to actually get some work done. But I made it through the weekend, and I've almost made it through this work week. I got some nicotine gum in case I needed it, but I haven't for the past two days. I also got a bunch of sunflower seeds and snacks and munched on them to keep occupied. This is going to be my last quit, I really feel it. Especially after finding a site like this that has accountability. In the past, it's always just been me and my addict-driven mind.

I still worry because I have a hard time imagining how I'll be able to focus and get work done and deal with stress without chew. I really relied on it to make the boring things interesting and the hard things bearable. It's been a rough week so far, and I actually took a sick day today to regain focus. I'm in the middle of a big trial preparation too, with a lead attorney who's a terrible pain to deal with. I could really use help from anyone who's gotten through a similar situation where your chewing was so intertwined in how you get your work done in your career. Obviously, I'll take any help from anyone who's quit or quitting. I'm just trying to figure out how to rewire my brain to not need nicotine to feel like I can tackle something daunting like writing a giant brief or working a 12-hour day. I try to tell myself that (probably) everyone else at my work is doing it without nicotine, but it's still hard for me personally.

Thanks for the site. I'm in the quit group for the current quit dates, and I'm looking forward to getting through this with everyone.
Title: Re: Trying to Gain Perspective
Post by: Jlud007 on July 10, 2014, 04:55:00 PM
Quote from: f-bomb
Hello Everyone,

I've been chewing and smoking on and off since I illegally bought my first tin at 17. Now I'm realizing that's nearly 17 years ago. I thought I would just do it for a little while and then quit once I became an "adult," but every time something stressful or difficult comes along, I picked it back up. I've been an attorney now for three years. I chewed all through law school because I thought I needed it to help me study. I promised myself and my girlfriend/now wife that I would quit as soon as I finished and passed the Bar. I quit for a few months or so without really worrying too much, but as soon as something came up at work where I had to really buckle down and work late, I fell back on chewing. A year or so ago, I really fell back in hard and I started chewing all the time at work, keeping my office door closed so no one would see me spit, and swallowing and having awkward conversations if someone knocked and came in. I hid it from my wife until a month or two ago, and when I came clean, she hounded me until I set a quit day: July 4. At first I thought I would just do it to placate her and then fall back in once I needed to actually get some work done. But I made it through the weekend, and I've almost made it through this work week. I got some nicotine gum in case I needed it, but I haven't for the past two days. I also got a bunch of sunflower seeds and snacks and munched on them to keep occupied. This is going to be my last quit, I really feel it. Especially after finding a site like this that has accountability. In the past, it's always just been me and my addict-driven mind.

I still worry because I have a hard time imagining how I'll be able to focus and get work done and deal with stress without chew. I really relied on it to make the boring things interesting and the hard things bearable. It's been a rough week so far, and I actually took a sick day today to regain focus. I'm in the middle of a big trial preparation too, with a lead attorney who's a terrible pain to deal with. I could really use help from anyone who's gotten through a similar situation where your chewing was so intertwined in how you get your work done in your career. Obviously, I'll take any help from anyone who's quit or quitting. I'm just trying to figure out how to rewire my brain to not need nicotine to feel like I can tackle something daunting like writing a giant brief or working a 12-hour day. I try to tell myself that (probably) everyone else at my work is doing it without nicotine, but it's still hard for me personally.

Thanks for the site. I'm in the quit group for the current quit dates, and I'm looking forward to getting through this with everyone.
Well fbomb... where do I start. First of all you need to pitch the nicotine gum, this is a no nicotine site.. period. We don't try, we don't ween, we don't wait for tomorrow here... we quit, today. One day at a time we keep each other accountable. If you've been dip and nic gum free for 2 days then your almost through the physical withdrawal.

Make sure you quit for you, plain and simple, any other motivation will not sustain you. I assure you that anything you did with nicotine you will be able to do and better without it, but it will take some time. It is a battle worth fighting and the freedom is awesome.
Title: Re: Trying to Gain Perspective
Post by: Scowick65 on July 10, 2014, 04:59:00 PM
Quote from: jlud007
Quote from: f-bomb
Hello Everyone,

I've been chewing and smoking on and off since I illegally bought my first tin at 17. Now I'm realizing that's nearly 17 years ago. I thought I would just do it for a little while and then quit once I became an "adult," but every time something stressful or difficult comes along, I picked it back up. I've been an attorney now for three years. I chewed all through law school because I thought I needed it to help me study. I promised myself and my girlfriend/now wife that I would quit as soon as I finished and passed the Bar. I quit for a few months or so without really worrying too much, but as soon as something came up at work where I had to really buckle down and work late, I fell back on chewing. A year or so ago, I really fell back in hard and I started chewing all the time at work, keeping my office door closed so no one would see me spit, and swallowing and having awkward conversations if someone knocked and came in. I hid it from my wife until a month or two ago, and when I came clean, she hounded me until I set a quit day: July 4. At first I thought I would just do it to placate her and then fall back in once I needed to actually get some work done. But I made it through the weekend, and I've almost made it through this work week. I got some nicotine gum in case I needed it, but I haven't for the past two days. I also got a bunch of sunflower seeds and snacks and munched on them to keep occupied. This is going to be my last quit, I really feel it. Especially after finding a site like this that has accountability. In the past, it's always just been me and my addict-driven mind.

I still worry because I have a hard time imagining how I'll be able to focus and get work done and deal with stress without chew. I really relied on it to make the boring things interesting and the hard things bearable. It's been a rough week so far, and I actually took a sick day today to regain focus. I'm in the middle of a big trial preparation too, with a lead attorney who's a terrible pain to deal with. I could really use help from anyone who's gotten through a similar situation where your chewing was so intertwined in how you get your work done in your career. Obviously, I'll take any help from anyone who's quit or quitting. I'm just trying to figure out how to rewire my brain to not need nicotine to feel like I can tackle something daunting like writing a giant brief or working a 12-hour day. I try to tell myself that (probably) everyone else at my work is doing it without nicotine, but it's still hard for me personally.

Thanks for the site. I'm in the quit group for the current quit dates, and I'm looking forward to getting through this with everyone.
Well fbomb... where do I start. First of all you need to pitch the nicotine gum, this is a no nicotine site.. period. We don't try, we don't ween, we don't wait for tomorrow here... we quit, today. One day at a time we keep each other accountable. If you've been dip and nic gum free for 2 days then your almost through the physical withdrawal.

Make sure you quit for you, plain and simple, any other motivation will not sustain you. I assure you that anything you did with nicotine you will be able to do and better without it, but it will take some time. It is a battle worth fighting and the freedom is awesome.
jlud is right. No nicotine.

So, I am glad you are here and I am here to help you quit. Figure out how many days you have been without nicotine and adjust your roll post to that. If today is day 1, so be it. Toss the gum and any other nic products and lets get busy.

Post roll every morning.
Get involved in the site.
Read the site
Get hold of me or another if you need help. We are here to help you.
Title: Re: Trying to Gain Perspective
Post by: Mogul on July 10, 2014, 05:05:00 PM
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: jlud007
Quote from: f-bomb
Hello Everyone,

I've been chewing and smoking on and off since I illegally bought my first tin at 17. Now I'm realizing that's nearly 17 years ago. I thought I would just do it for a little while and then quit once I became an "adult," but every time something stressful or difficult comes along, I picked it back up. I've been an attorney now for three years. I chewed all through law school because I thought I needed it to help me study. I promised myself and my girlfriend/now wife that I would quit as soon as I finished and passed the Bar. I quit for a few months or so without really worrying too much, but as soon as something came up at work where I had to really buckle down and work late, I fell back on chewing. A year or so ago, I really fell back in hard and I started chewing all the time at work, keeping my office door closed so no one would see me spit, and swallowing and having awkward conversations if someone knocked and came in. I hid it from my wife until a month or two ago, and when I came clean, she hounded me until I set a quit day: July 4. At first I thought I would just do it to placate her and then fall back in once I needed to actually get some work done. But I made it through the weekend, and I've almost made it through this work week. I got some nicotine gum in case I needed it, but I haven't for the past two days. I also got a bunch of sunflower seeds and snacks and munched on them to keep occupied. This is going to be my last quit, I really feel it. Especially after finding a site like this that has accountability. In the past, it's always just been me and my addict-driven mind.

I still worry because I have a hard time imagining how I'll be able to focus and get work done and deal with stress without chew. I really relied on it to make the boring things interesting and the hard things bearable. It's been a rough week so far, and I actually took a sick day today to regain focus. I'm in the middle of a big trial preparation too, with a lead attorney who's a terrible pain to deal with. I could really use help from anyone who's gotten through a similar situation where your chewing was so intertwined in how you get your work done in your career. Obviously, I'll take any help from anyone who's quit or quitting. I'm just trying to figure out how to rewire my brain to not need nicotine to feel like I can tackle something daunting like writing a giant brief or working a 12-hour day. I try to tell myself that (probably) everyone else at my work is doing it without nicotine, but it's still hard for me personally.

Thanks for the site. I'm in the quit group for the current quit dates, and I'm looking forward to getting through this with everyone.
Well fbomb... where do I start. First of all you need to pitch the nicotine gum, this is a no nicotine site.. period. We don't try, we don't ween, we don't wait for tomorrow here... we quit, today. One day at a time we keep each other accountable. If you've been dip and nic gum free for 2 days then your almost through the physical withdrawal.

Make sure you quit for you, plain and simple, any other motivation will not sustain you. I assure you that anything you did with nicotine you will be able to do and better without it, but it will take some time. It is a battle worth fighting and the freedom is awesome.
jlud is right. No nicotine.

So, I am glad you are here and I am here to help you quit. Figure out how many days you have been without nicotine and adjust your roll post to that. If today is day 1, so be it. Toss the gum and any other nic products and lets get busy.

Post roll every morning.
Get involved in the site.
Read the site
Get hold of me or another if you need help. We are here to help you.
Exactly what these ^^^^^^^^^^guys said..and I will add a few thoughts

You are an attorney, obviously you have some smarts and drive. Reach deep inside of yourself and use the drive that passed the BAR to quit nicotine. In other words man, man up. Have a killer attitude. Tell nicotine you are fucking done and there is nothing, NOTHING, that will change that. Also, enough about your wife. She is going to piss you off and probably here soon. If your quit is about her you will be back finger fucking a tin can so fast her panties will come off. Quit for you dude. Quit because you love yourself and you know that you are worth more than muff diving with tobacco. Your an addict, we all are, be you can overcome. You just have to make the final decision to end that relationship.

Mogul
Title: Re: Trying to Gain Perspective
Post by: Pinched on July 10, 2014, 05:08:00 PM
Quote from: mogul
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: jlud007
Quote from: f-bomb
Hello Everyone,

I've been chewing and smoking on and off since I illegally bought my first tin at 17. Now I'm realizing that's nearly 17 years ago. I thought I would just do it for a little while and then quit once I became an "adult," but every time something stressful or difficult comes along, I picked it back up. I've been an attorney now for three years. I chewed all through law school because I thought I needed it to help me study. I promised myself and my girlfriend/now wife that I would quit as soon as I finished and passed the Bar. I quit for a few months or so without really worrying too much, but as soon as something came up at work where I had to really buckle down and work late, I fell back on chewing. A year or so ago, I really fell back in hard and I started chewing all the time at work, keeping my office door closed so no one would see me spit, and swallowing and having awkward conversations if someone knocked and came in. I hid it from my wife until a month or two ago, and when I came clean, she hounded me until I set a quit day: July 4. At first I thought I would just do it to placate her and then fall back in once I needed to actually get some work done. But I made it through the weekend, and I've almost made it through this work week. I got some nicotine gum in case I needed it, but I haven't for the past two days. I also got a bunch of sunflower seeds and snacks and munched on them to keep occupied. This is going to be my last quit, I really feel it. Especially after finding a site like this that has accountability. In the past, it's always just been me and my addict-driven mind.

I still worry because I have a hard time imagining how I'll be able to focus and get work done and deal with stress without chew. I really relied on it to make the boring things interesting and the hard things bearable. It's been a rough week so far, and I actually took a sick day today to regain focus. I'm in the middle of a big trial preparation too, with a lead attorney who's a terrible pain to deal with. I could really use help from anyone who's gotten through a similar situation where your chewing was so intertwined in how you get your work done in your career. Obviously, I'll take any help from anyone who's quit or quitting. I'm just trying to figure out how to rewire my brain to not need nicotine to feel like I can tackle something daunting like writing a giant brief or working a 12-hour day. I try to tell myself that (probably) everyone else at my work is doing it without nicotine, but it's still hard for me personally.

Thanks for the site. I'm in the quit group for the current quit dates, and I'm looking forward to getting through this with everyone.
Well fbomb... where do I start. First of all you need to pitch the nicotine gum, this is a no nicotine site.. period. We don't try, we don't ween, we don't wait for tomorrow here... we quit, today. One day at a time we keep each other accountable. If you've been dip and nic gum free for 2 days then your almost through the physical withdrawal.

Make sure you quit for you, plain and simple, any other motivation will not sustain you. I assure you that anything you did with nicotine you will be able to do and better without it, but it will take some time. It is a battle worth fighting and the freedom is awesome.
jlud is right. No nicotine.

So, I am glad you are here and I am here to help you quit. Figure out how many days you have been without nicotine and adjust your roll post to that. If today is day 1, so be it. Toss the gum and any other nic products and lets get busy.

Post roll every morning.
Get involved in the site.
Read the site
Get hold of me or another if you need help. We are here to help you.
Exactly what these ^^^^^^^^^^guys said..and I will add a few thoughts

You are an attorney, obviously you have some smarts and drive. Reach deep inside of yourself and use the drive that passed the BAR to quit nicotine. In other words man, man up. Have a killer attitude. Tell nicotine you are fucking done and there is nothing, NOTHING, that will change that. Also, enough about your wife. She is going to piss you off and probably here soon. If your quit is about her you will be back finger fucking a tin can so fast her panties will come off. Quit for you dude. Quit because you love yourself and you know that you are worth more than muff diving with tobacco. Your an addict, we all are, be you can overcome. You just have to make the final decision to end that relationship.

Mogul
If all the above information doesn't yet make your @$$hole pucker up enough; read these motivational stories as well and then dry the tears and come back to quit clean (the below words are links to stories):

Randy's story (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1008847/1/)

Tom Kern (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1008859/1/)

Sean Marsee (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1009362/1/#new)
Title: Re: Trying to Gain Perspective
Post by: EFNKodiak on July 10, 2014, 05:46:00 PM
Fbomb,

First thing is you need to quit for yourself. Second, nicotine is a bad drug and addiction is, well addiction. Nicotine addiction just plain sucks. We have been in your shoes too. At first it seems that life can't go on without dip. Just take it one day at a time. Cold turkey is the way to go. It's not fun, but it gets better. Life goes on without dip. You will find out that you can cope with stressful situations without using dip as a crutch. Stick around and find. Glad you found the site. It has saved my life, it can save yours too.

Search around the site and find the contract to quit. I still have it in my wallet after 499 days quit. It's just one of the tools that helps bring you back down if you have a crave. Use the tools here, there are many and they work.
Title: Re: Trying to Gain Perspective
Post by: f-bomb on July 10, 2014, 07:17:00 PM
Got it. Nicotine gum out in the garbage. It was a box of expired gum from some previous attempt anyway. I'll adjust my quit date to July 8 to be exact. Most I had was two 2mg pieces in a day anyway though, so I feel like I'm getting through the immediate withdrawal.

Second, I should probably rephrase what I said about my wife. I'd been dancing around quitting for a month or so, but she asked me to actually set a date. When I did that, it became quitting for myself. I'm not saying that it isn't also so that I can grow old with her, but my reason for quitting is to get out of the whole sneaking around chewing behind closed doors, not interacting with people. And going through an all day chewing session with sore cheeks and gums and hacking up brown stuff is also my reason to quit. Also, I want to regain control of my brain for chrissake. I would sometimes let a call go to voicemail if I didn't have a chew in so that I could get one in my mouth before calling back. F-ing ridiculous.

Thanks for the advice.
Title: Re: Trying to Gain Perspective
Post by: SirDerek on July 10, 2014, 08:05:00 PM
Quote from: f-bomb
Got it. Nicotine gum out in the garbage. It was a box of expired gum from some previous attempt anyway. I'll adjust my quit date to July 8 to be exact. Most I had was two 2mg pieces in a day anyway though, so I feel like I'm getting through the immediate withdrawal.

Second, I should probably rephrase what I said about my wife. I'd been dancing around quitting for a month or so, but she asked me to actually set a date. When I did that, it became quitting for myself. I'm not saying that it isn't also so that I can grow old with her, but my reason for quitting is to get out of the whole sneaking around chewing behind closed doors, not interacting with people. And going through an all day chewing session with sore cheeks and gums and hacking up brown stuff is also my reason to quit. Also, I want to regain control of my brain for chrissake. I would sometimes let a call go to voicemail if I didn't have a chew in so that I could get one in my mouth before calling back. F-ing ridiculous.

Thanks for the advice.
That is a good restatement, showing you are understanding that this needs to be for you above anything else ( the rest is the bonus that comes with it.) Well done.
Yell if you need.
Title: Re: Trying to Gain Perspective
Post by: Jlud007 on July 10, 2014, 09:19:00 PM
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: f-bomb
Got it. Nicotine gum out in the garbage. It was a box of expired gum from some previous attempt anyway. I'll adjust my quit date to July 8 to be exact. Most I had was two 2mg pieces in a day anyway though, so I feel like I'm getting through the immediate withdrawal.

Second, I should probably rephrase what I said about my wife. I'd been dancing around quitting for a month or so, but she asked me to actually set a date. When I did that, it became quitting for myself. I'm not saying that it isn't also so that I can grow old with her, but my reason for quitting is to get out of the whole sneaking around chewing behind closed doors, not interacting with people. And going through an all day chewing session with sore cheeks and gums and hacking up brown stuff is also my reason to quit. Also, I want to regain control of my brain for chrissake. I would sometimes let a call go to voicemail if I didn't have a chew in so that I could get one in my mouth before calling back. F-ing ridiculous.

Thanks for the advice.
That is a good restatement, showing you are understanding that this needs to be for you above anything else ( the rest is the bonus that comes with it.) Well done.
Yell if you need.
Sounds like someone taking their first sips of the ol' KTC Kool-Aid..... Freedom is what it's all about and I only wanted to focus you on quitting for yourself first, all that growing old with the wife and kids, feeling healthy and happy... those are just some of the awesome side effects that go with being quit. If you need anything hit me up via PM, make some contacts and break the ice before your in a spot where you need the help. Easier to make that call in a time of need when you have already gotten to know the quitter on the other end. Spend as much time as you can here, read, read, read.... Intros, HOF speeches, Tom Kern's story, Words of Wisdom there is a wealth of knowledge and support here. All of it coming from guys just like you that together have managed to stay quit one day at a time.
Title: Re: Trying to Gain Perspective
Post by: Doc Chewfree on July 10, 2014, 09:30:00 PM
Quote from: jlud007
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: f-bomb
Got it. Nicotine gum out in the garbage. It was a box of expired gum from some previous attempt anyway. I'll adjust my quit date to July 8 to be exact. Most I had was two 2mg pieces in a day anyway though, so I feel like I'm getting through the immediate withdrawal.

Second, I should probably rephrase what I said about my wife. I'd been dancing around quitting for a month or so, but she asked me to actually set a date. When I did that, it became quitting for myself. I'm not saying that it isn't also so that I can grow old with her, but my reason for quitting is to get out of the whole sneaking around chewing behind closed doors, not interacting with people. And going through an all day chewing session with sore cheeks and gums and hacking up brown stuff is also my reason to quit. Also, I want to regain control of my brain for chrissake. I would sometimes let a call go to voicemail if I didn't have a chew in so that I could get one in my mouth before calling back. F-ing ridiculous.

Thanks for the advice.
That is a good restatement, showing you are understanding that this needs to be for you above anything else ( the rest is the bonus that comes with it.) Well done.
Yell if you need.
Sounds like someone taking their first sips of the ol' KTC Kool-Aid..... Freedom is what it's all about and I only wanted to focus you on quitting for yourself first, all that growing old with the wife and kids, feeling healthy and happy... those are just some of the awesome side effects that go with being quit. If you need anything hit me up via PM, make some contacts and break the ice before your in a spot where you need the help. Easier to make that call in a time of need when you have already gotten to know the quitter on the other end. Spend as much time as you can here, read, read, read.... Intros, HOF speeches, Tom Kern's story, Words of Wisdom there is a wealth of knowledge and support here. All of it coming from guys just like you that together have managed to stay quit one day at a time.
Fbomb, welcome and congratulations on making a great decision.
You have already gotten some stellar advice from some of the best quitters this site has so I won't beat that horse anymore. Make sure you become active on the site. Got to chat. Hang out in your roll group. Read. Read. Read.
Your secret weapon against the nic whore is knowledge. The more you know the more you can rationalize what is happening or what you feel.
When craves hit, relax. Enjoy the fact that you can control this and not be a slave to that whore. Breath deep and realize that this crave will pass even if you don't give in to the nic slut.
One last thing, you can do anything without nic that you did with it, better. You have to quit being that controlled addict and be a controlled addict. Did that make sense? In other words, you are a nic addict like me but WE no longer use nic under any circumstance. NAFAR=not again for any reason
Do what these fine quitters have suggested and you will soon find a new stronger happier you.
Quit on!
Let me know if you need anything.
Title: Re: Trying to Gain Perspective
Post by: redtrain14 on July 10, 2014, 10:29:00 PM
Your focus will come back in time f-bomb. Don't worry about it too much, just worry about being quit for today. Spend some time here, get to know your quit brothers, and get some legs under this quit.

You CAN do this, I promise.
Title: Re: Trying to Gain Perspective
Post by: Thumblewort on July 11, 2014, 08:38:00 AM
F-Bomb, I am a CPA who quit at the busiest time of year for me. My quit date is April 4th, but I have not used chew since March 6th. I choose to use a nicotine patch because obviously I knew more than people who have quit for years, so for 30 days I cut out the KTC support and went through the withdrawal s l o w l y . So finally on April 4th I wised up and ripped the band aid off, and got to experience the full withdrawal sensation again, you know, because I am so smart.

So I tell you that to make a point. Despite my idiocy with the patch, I went through tax season with a full month of withdrawals. I used my busy season as a distraction to get through the worst of the quit, so by the time April 16th came, I was starting to feel better. Use this trial as a distraction to what you are going through. You can do this!
Title: Re: Trying to Gain Perspective
Post by: B-loMatt on July 11, 2014, 09:13:00 AM
Read through everything on KTC. All the knowledge you need is here! Also, you can find intros where bad ass quitters go through worse stressers than anything I have during my quit: dear John letters, death, etc. so I always keep my daily annoyances in perspective.
The KTC plan works. Learn the plan. Live the plan. Love your freedom. PM me if you need anything.
Title: Re: Trying to Gain Perspective
Post by: Steakbomb18 on July 11, 2014, 10:59:00 AM
bomb...this is Bomb. Reading that intro was like looking in a mirror. I started in college, dipped late nights studying for pharmacy school, entered into a stressful job, etc. I've stopped/started so many times I've lost count. I came to KTC, 6 days in and I've never looked back. Really, the only progression now is forward. For every day since I've quit I've been undefeated against the nic bitch. The 18 years of consecutive days I lost that battle are in the past and behind me. For every day you post roll, quit like fuck, and win the battle for that day you will continue to move further and further away from the past. Will you be able to ever lose that past? Hell no, you will always be an addict...but you CAN create more and more distance from that addict mind by being a quitter every damn day.

Keep it up, keep learning, keep posting roll and you will keep winning and regaining your freedom.
Title: Re: Trying to Gain Perspective
Post by: f-bomb on July 11, 2014, 12:16:00 PM
Quote from: Thumblewort
F-Bomb, I am a CPA who quit at the busiest time of year for me. My quit date is April 4th, but I have not used chew since March 6th. I choose to use a nicotine patch because obviously I knew more than people who have quit for years, so for 30 days I cut out the KTC support and went through the withdrawal s l o w l y . So finally on April 4th I wised up and ripped the band aid off, and got to experience the full withdrawal sensation again, you know, because I am so smart.

So I tell you that to make a point. Despite my idiocy with the patch, I went through tax season with a full month of withdrawals. I used my busy season as a distraction to get through the worst of the quit, so by the time April 16th came, I was starting to feel better. Use this trial as a distraction to what you are going through. You can do this!
That's really good to hear. I'm actually a tax attorney. 'oh yeah' Quitting during tax season must have seemed so intimidation for you. I can only imagine.

Quitting during a busy period of time was deliberate on my part too. Trials are busy and require teamwork, which means less time by myself. Writing briefs are lonely work in front of a computer, so I wanted to get a month or two clean before tackling one of those. I know that once I get a large writing project done, I will have made a giant step in my quit, and the way I'm feeling now: bring that fucker on.
Title: Re: Trying to Gain Perspective
Post by: f-bomb on July 11, 2014, 12:42:00 PM
Quote from: Steakbomb18
bomb...this is Bomb. Reading that intro was like looking in a mirror. I started in college, dipped late nights studying for pharmacy school, entered into a stressful job, etc. I've stopped/started so many times I've lost count. I came to KTC, 6 days in and I've never looked back. Really, the only progression now is forward. For every day since I've quit I've been undefeated against the nic bitch. The 18 years of consecutive days I lost that battle are in the past and behind me. For every day you post roll, quit like fuck, and win the battle for that day you will continue to move further and further away from the past. Will you be able to ever lose that past? Hell no, you will always be an addict...but you CAN create more and more distance from that addict mind by being a quitter every damn day.

Keep it up, keep learning, keep posting roll and you will keep winning and regaining your freedom.
Thanks steakbomb. From one bomb to another, we can do this. It's so terrible how that feeling of needing to chew to study hard and do well really invades your mind. I've decided that my attitude right now is that I don't even care if I'm mediocre at my job without nicotine. It just isn't worth it. No career or goal is worth killing yourself in such a stupid way. If something happens and I fail at a task, it will be my own failure, and I'll figure it out. Working on nicotine means I've already failed right out of the gate.
Title: Re: Trying to Gain Perspective
Post by: worktowin on July 11, 2014, 01:25:00 PM
Quote from: f-bomb
Quote from: Steakbomb18
bomb...this is Bomb. Reading that intro was like looking in a mirror. I started in college, dipped late nights studying for pharmacy school, entered into a stressful job, etc. I've stopped/started so many times I've lost count. I came to KTC, 6 days in and I've never looked back. Really, the only progression now is forward. For every day since I've quit I've been undefeated against the nic bitch. The 18 years of consecutive days I lost that battle are in the past and behind me. For every day you post roll, quit like fuck, and win the battle for that day you will continue to move further and further away from the past. Will you be able to ever lose that past? Hell no, you will always be an addict...but you CAN create more and more distance from that addict mind by being a quitter every damn day.

Keep it up, keep learning, keep posting roll and you will keep winning and regaining your freedom.
Thanks steakbomb. From one bomb to another, we can do this. It's so terrible how that feeling of needing to chew to study hard and do well really invades your mind. I've decided that my attitude right now is that I don't even care if I'm mediocre at my job without nicotine. It just isn't worth it. No career or goal is worth killing yourself in such a stupid way. If something happens and I fail at a task, it will be my own failure, and I'll figure it out. Working on nicotine means I've already failed right out of the gate.
You do not need nicotine to do fucking anything except relieve the withdrawal of using nicotine!

You would not believe the number of people that I've seen on this site jump start their careers after quitting (including me.). Know why? Because now you can spend time focusing in your career, family, and what is really important and not trying to sneak your next fix!

One day at a time bomb(s)!
Title: Re: Trying to Gain Perspective
Post by: worktowin on July 11, 2014, 01:38:00 PM
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: f-bomb
Quote from: Steakbomb18
bomb...this is Bomb. Reading that intro was like looking in a mirror. I started in college, dipped late nights studying for pharmacy school, entered into a stressful job, etc. I've stopped/started so many times I've lost count. I came to KTC, 6 days in and I've never looked back. Really, the only progression now is forward. For every day since I've quit I've been undefeated against the nic bitch. The 18 years of consecutive days I lost that battle are in the past and behind me. For every day you post roll, quit like fuck, and win the battle for that day you will continue to move further and further away from the past. Will you be able to ever lose that past? Hell no, you will always be an addict...but you CAN create more and more distance from that addict mind by being a quitter every damn day.

Keep it up, keep learning, keep posting roll and you will keep winning and regaining your freedom.
Thanks steakbomb. From one bomb to another, we can do this. It's so terrible how that feeling of needing to chew to study hard and do well really invades your mind. I've decided that my attitude right now is that I don't even care if I'm mediocre at my job without nicotine. It just isn't worth it. No career or goal is worth killing yourself in such a stupid way. If something happens and I fail at a task, it will be my own failure, and I'll figure it out. Working on nicotine means I've already failed right out of the gate.
You do not need nicotine to do fucking anything except relieve the withdrawal of using nicotine!

You would not believe the number of people that I've seen on this site jump start their careers after quitting (including me.). Know why? Because now you can spend time focusing in your career, family, and what is really important and not trying to sneak your next fix!

One day at a time bomb(s)!
Ps - Arnold Becker didn't use nicotine. Just saying....
Title: Re: Trying to Gain Perspective
Post by: Bulldog0311 on July 11, 2014, 03:05:00 PM
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: f-bomb
Quote from: Steakbomb18
bomb...this is Bomb. Reading that intro was like looking in a mirror. I started in college, dipped late nights studying for pharmacy school, entered into a stressful job, etc. I've stopped/started so many times I've lost count. I came to KTC, 6 days in and I've never looked back. Really, the only progression now is forward. For every day since I've quit I've been undefeated against the nic bitch. The 18 years of consecutive days I lost that battle are in the past and behind me. For every day you post roll, quit like fuck, and win the battle for that day you will continue to move further and further away from the past. Will you be able to ever lose that past? Hell no, you will always be an addict...but you CAN create more and more distance from that addict mind by being a quitter every damn day.

Keep it up, keep learning, keep posting roll and you will keep winning and regaining your freedom.
Thanks steakbomb. From one bomb to another, we can do this. It's so terrible how that feeling of needing to chew to study hard and do well really invades your mind. I've decided that my attitude right now is that I don't even care if I'm mediocre at my job without nicotine. It just isn't worth it. No career or goal is worth killing yourself in such a stupid way. If something happens and I fail at a task, it will be my own failure, and I'll figure it out. Working on nicotine means I've already failed right out of the gate.
You do not need nicotine to do fucking anything except relieve the withdrawal of using nicotine!

You would not believe the number of people that I've seen on this site jump start their careers after quitting (including me.). Know why? Because now you can spend time focusing in your career, family, and what is really important and not trying to sneak your next fix!

One day at a time bomb(s)!
Ps - Arnold Becker didn't use nicotine. Just saying....
Hot damn you got some bad ass mother fuckers in your corner right outta the gate. I'm no attorney I'm just a damn grunt but there's one thing I know and it's that these guys are badass.
You listen to them. You get in here and read. Suck it up. The only thing I didn't see mentioned is the weirdest. Get some phone numbers. Get a text group. It's weird getting other dudes digits but man a text group is a life saver. When your struggling and all of a sudden three brothers send you some motivation it's just awesome.
Good luck brother. You can do this. It seems really hard but it's so simple. Just post roll. Promise to quit for just one day. Then keep that promise. You do that then I'll get up tomorrow and do it with you.
Title: Re: Trying to Gain Perspective
Post by: Mogul on July 11, 2014, 03:19:00 PM
Quote from: f-bomb
Quote from: Thumblewort
F-Bomb, I am a CPA who quit at the busiest time of year for me. My quit date is April 4th, but I have not used chew since March 6th. I choose to use a nicotine patch because obviously I knew more than people who have quit for years, so for 30 days I cut out the KTC support and went through the withdrawal s l o w l y . So finally on April 4th I wised up and ripped the band aid off, and got to experience the full withdrawal sensation again, you know, because I am so smart.

So I tell you that to make a point. Despite my idiocy with the patch, I went through tax season with a full month of withdrawals. I used my busy season as a distraction to get through the worst of the quit, so by the time April 16th came, I was starting to feel better. Use this trial as a distraction to what you are going through. You can do this!
That's really good to hear. I'm actually a tax attorney. 'oh yeah' Quitting during tax season must have seemed so intimidation for you. I can only imagine.

Quitting during a busy period of time was deliberate on my part too. Trials are busy and require teamwork, which means less time by myself. Writing briefs are lonely work in front of a computer, so I wanted to get a month or two clean before tackling one of those. I know that once I get a large writing project done, I will have made a giant step in my quit, and the way I'm feeling now: bring that fucker on.
Your last sentence there fbomb is exactly the attitude I'm preaching. You have to look that addict in the mirror every morning and say no fucking way. That bitch and her poison will not kill me today, then go post roll.

Mogul
Title: Re: Trying to Gain Perspective
Post by: Ron_Cross on July 11, 2014, 08:51:00 PM
Quote from: mogul
Quote from: f-bomb
Quote from: Thumblewort
F-Bomb, I am a CPA who quit at the busiest time of year for me. My quit date is April 4th, but I have not used chew since March 6th. I choose to use a nicotine patch because obviously I knew more than people who have quit for years, so for 30 days I cut out the KTC support and went through the withdrawal s l o w l y . So finally on April 4th I wised up and ripped the band aid off, and got to experience the full withdrawal sensation again, you know, because I am so smart.

So I tell you that to make a point. Despite my idiocy with the patch, I went through tax season with a full month of withdrawals. I used my busy season as a distraction to get through the worst of the quit, so by the time April 16th came, I was starting to feel better. Use this trial as a distraction to what you are going through. You can do this!
That's really good to hear. I'm actually a tax attorney. 'oh yeah' Quitting during tax season must have seemed so intimidation for you. I can only imagine.

Quitting during a busy period of time was deliberate on my part too. Trials are busy and require teamwork, which means less time by myself. Writing briefs are lonely work in front of a computer, so I wanted to get a month or two clean before tackling one of those. I know that once I get a large writing project done, I will have made a giant step in my quit, and the way I'm feeling now: bring that fucker on.
Your last sentence there fbomb is exactly the attitude I'm preaching. You have to look that addict in the mirror every morning and say no fucking way. That bitch and her poison will not kill me today, then go post roll.

Mogul
I am a CPA working in industry and not public accounting. I used to believe the lies that nicotine would tell me like, "You need me to focus". "You need me to be successful." "I am your magic bullet that calms you". I now know that they were all lies and I am now 10 times more focused and successful in my public and private life than I have ever been. You can do this.